Gambier Island Local Trust Committee special meeting, January 20, 2022

[0:00:01] Trustee Fast (probable): Good morning, everybody. I'm here to open the Gambier Island Local Trust Committee special meeting electronically held today, February the 3rd, 2022.

[0:00:15] Trustee Fast (probable): And at the beginning, I'd just like to acknowledge that we're meeting on and about the traditional territory of the Squamish people in Alt Kitsom House Sound.

[0:00:28] Trustee Fast (probable): and uh probably many other peoples as well um there's many salish nations and uh we're this

[0:00:36] Trustee Fast (probable): is a meeting of the islands trust which is has uh meets across many places i'm not sure where

[0:00:43] Trustee Fast (probable): you're all uh zooming in from today and uh if you feel like um mentioning that i'll give you a chance

[0:00:50] Trustee Fast (probable): to speak in a moment i'm just going to introduce the uh meeting today it's being held electronically

[0:00:54] Trustee Fast (probable): electronically, of course, because of another COVID situation.

[0:00:57] Trustee Fast (probable): So this is going to be a brief meeting.

[0:01:00] Trustee Fast (probable): We can't have public participation because

[0:01:03] Trustee Fast (probable): of the speed that we had to move to an electronic meeting.

[0:01:07] Trustee Fast (probable): So this is just to

[0:01:09] Trustee Fast (probable): do urgent things like adjust our meeting

[0:01:11] Trustee Fast (probable): bylaws so that we can always have electronic meetings when needed.

[0:01:15] Trustee Fast (probable): And

[0:01:17] Trustee Fast (probable): so we'll have a limited agenda today.

[0:01:21] Trustee Fast (probable): And but it is being live streamed and

[0:01:23] Trustee Fast (probable): and recorded so people can watch it later if they wish.

[0:01:27] Trustee Fast (probable): And so I'd just like to introduce

[0:01:29] Trustee Fast (probable): the local trust committee with us today.

[0:01:32] Trustee Fast (probable): We've got, I'm gonna introduce Heather Cowher first.

[0:01:35] Trustee Fast (probable): She's our regional planning manager

[0:01:37] Trustee Fast (probable): who's also hosting the meeting today.

[0:01:39] Trustee Fast (probable): So thank you, Heather, for doing all these things.

[0:01:41] Trustee Fast (probable): And she's acting as our island planner

[0:01:44] Trustee Fast (probable): for the local trust area today, I think as well.

[0:01:48] Trustee Fast (probable): And where are you zooming in from, Heather?

[0:01:51] Voice 2: I am zooming in from Vancouver.

[0:01:53] Voice 2: so

[0:01:54] Trustee Fast (probable): Musqueam, Squamish and Tsleil-Waututh Territory.

[0:01:58] Trustee Fast (probable): Thank you.

[0:01:59] Trustee Fast (probable): Thank you for joining us and hosting.

[0:02:01] Trustee Fast (probable): And I'll introduce Kate Louise Stamford,

[0:02:04] Trustee Fast (probable): and she's one of your local trustees.

[0:02:07] Trustee Fast (probable): Go ahead, Kate Louise.

[0:02:09] Trustee Stamford (probable): Welcome from the territory of the Squamish people

[0:02:14] Trustee Stamford (probable): in the Alcots of South area.

[0:02:17] Trustee Fast (probable): And she lives on Gambier Island, also called?

[0:02:23] Trustee Fast (probable): Chalpnawich.

[0:02:24] Trustee Fast (probable): Thank you.

[0:02:25] Trustee Fast (probable): I'll remember one day. And our other local trustee is Dan Rogers. Trustee Rogers, introduce yourself.

[0:02:33] Trustee Rogers (probable): Thank you. I'm calling in from about seven blocks from RPM Tower, also in Vancouver in the

[0:02:40] Trustee Rogers (probable): traditional territories. One day we'll get the internet set up so that I can actually call in

[0:02:46] Trustee Rogers (probable): reliably from from Lek Tynes, Keats Island, which is where I live most of the time.

[0:02:51] Trustee Rogers (probable): Thank

[0:02:53] Trustee Fast (probable): you. And we also have with us today, our professional minute taker, Diane back there. And Diane is calling in from zooming in from, where are you, Diane?

[0:03:08] Voice 3: Grantham's Landing, just outside Gibson's.

[0:03:12] Trustee Fast (probable): very good so you can see we've kind of surrounded how sound here uh to some degree and uh with no

[0:03:18] Trustee Fast (probable): uh unless there's anything we want to uh uh else to do i've called the meeting to order

[0:03:25] Trustee Fast (probable): anything else for the agenda kate louise i think you had something

[0:03:29] Trustee Stamford (probable): yes so i would like to uh add a thank you letter to administrative fisheries and potions

[0:03:37] Trustee Stamford (probable): okay let's

[0:03:40] Trustee Fast (probable): put that at 3.4 letter uh appreciation sponge reef protection something like that

[0:03:50] Trustee Fast (probable): and um uh let's go ahead then 3.1 this is uh the main um topic on our agenda today meeting

[0:03:59] Trustee Fast (probable): procedure bylaw number 155 uh please take it away heather yeah

[0:04:04] Voice 2: so um essentially uh we're

[0:04:08] Voice 2: bringing your meeting procedures bylaw to you to amend it so that it is consistent with new

[0:04:13] Voice 2: provincial regulations that allow for all of your meetings to be electronic for you to attend those

[0:04:19] Voice 2: electronically. We just need to amend the local bylaw to allow for that. So the bylaw before you

[0:04:26] Voice 2: will, the proposal is to amend sections that would allow that. There's also some added sections that

[0:04:34] Voice 2: are regarding decorum, delegation, and public participation. Those have been added as well

[0:04:40] Voice 2: because we're opening up your meeting procedures by-law and those are things staff have recognized

[0:04:46] Voice 2: to be useful in meeting procedures by-laws. You are the last LTC to be discussing this in the

[0:04:55] Voice 2: north and so there has been some discussion about those new sections regarding public participation

[0:05:02] Voice 2: and delegations and some concern that, you know, you be discussing adding those sections

[0:05:10] Voice 2: without public participation or, you know, people being able to speak at the meeting

[0:05:15] Voice 2: regarding those.

[0:05:16] Voice 2: So one of the alternatives is to remove those sections, and those are sections 18 through

[0:05:23] Voice 2: 40, to kind of postpone discussion about that at another time.

[0:05:29] Voice 2: if you remove those sections it doesn't change the ability for you to

[0:05:32] Voice 2: still have electronic meetings all of that stays the same but we are recommending that you keep

[0:05:39] Voice 2: those sections in part because they're useful but also because um you know bylaw amendments

[0:05:44] Voice 2: take time it becomes this another project right that yeah that we have to go through so um so

[0:05:51] Voice 2: that's that the recommendations that we have in the staff report one through four are associated

[0:05:56] Voice 2: with first, second, and third reading of the bylaw

[0:05:59] Voice 2: and moving that on to the executive committee for approval.

[0:06:04] Voice 2: It doesn't require a public hearing

[0:06:06] Voice 2: because it's an administrative bylaw.

[0:06:10] Voice 2: Recommendation number five has also had a lot of discussion

[0:06:12] Voice 2: across the trust now

[0:06:15] Voice 2: with the executive committee yesterday, I think.

[0:06:18] Voice 2: But the recommendation is essentially recognizing

[0:06:23] Voice 2: recognizing that while updating the meeting procedures by law would allow for you to,

[0:06:29] Voice 2: from a legal perspective, to conduct electronic meetings, there's some recognition that we aren't

[0:06:36] Voice 2: necessarily fully staffed to an extent that we can resource fully hybrid meetings.

[0:06:43] Voice 2: And so there is a recommendation there from me that you have Trust Council consider adding staffing resources to next year's budget.

[0:06:58] Voice 2: So the discussion in the northern region has, there's, there have been resolutions from each LTC that is some iteration of this.

[0:07:08] Voice 2: some were not quite ready to ask for a full FTE and so they said you know maybe we can just ask

[0:07:15] Voice 2: for some resources of some sort funds maybe but maybe not an FTE and there was a recognition that

[0:07:23] Voice 2: whatever is considered it has to start with the financial planning committee so so the the latter

[0:07:31] Voice 2: iterations of the resolution said we recommend that the fpc consider adding resources to next

[0:07:41] Voice 2: year's budget for electronic meetings so that's sort of the latest iteration um i didn't watch

[0:07:47] Voice 2: the executive committee meeting yesterday i don't know if you if chair fast or trustee writers want

[0:07:53] Voice 2: to speak to that but um i think there was some discussion about it anyway um that's the summary

[0:07:58] Voice 2: and glad to answer any questions um

[0:08:06] Trustee Fast (probable): i'll i have i just have a quick question and that is that

[0:08:09] Trustee Fast (probable): um let people know that i went through our um meeting our public participation guidelines that

[0:08:17] Trustee Fast (probable): we did a couple of years ago and uh these um i've marked it up in red anyway if anybody's got

[0:08:22] Trustee Fast (probable): any questions i compared them we did um in terms of public process we did um look at these through

[0:08:30] Trustee Fast (probable): to public meetings. And so I don't I just wanted to put that out there that I've got notes if

[0:08:38] Trustee Fast (probable): anybody's interested. And I can tell you what's different and, and that we did discuss delegations

[0:08:45] Trustee Fast (probable): and town hall public comments and things like that in session. So that's just my input there.

[0:08:50] Trustee Fast (probable): Kate Weese.

[0:08:51] Trustee Stamford (probable): I just got a clarification there. When you say we you're talking about the Bowen

[0:08:56] Trustee Stamford (probable): island council no

[0:08:58] Trustee Fast (probable): i'm sorry this is the um uh guidelines for publication public participation

[0:09:03] Trustee Fast (probable): that uh gambier keats local trust committee us in this meeting um looked at back i have to dig

[0:09:11] Trustee Fast (probable): out the dates a couple of years ago and um this is where this is what becky sends to anybody who

[0:09:18] Trustee Fast (probable): asks to be a delegation um it's got the town hall uh this is an opportunity to uh public comments

[0:09:26] Trustee Fast (probable): that kind of thing delegations correspondents and applicants just so everybody knows what to expect

[0:09:31] Trustee Fast (probable): and they feel invited uh to participate in in the meetings um kate louise your camera has just gone

[0:09:40] Trustee Fast (probable): off so i hope we're you're still with us i don't know if i have this electronically i can send it

[0:09:49] Trustee Fast (probable): to people um i

[0:09:52] Trustee Rogers (probable): know what yeah i think yeah you

[0:09:55] Trustee Fast (probable): know what they are

[0:09:55] Trustee Rogers (probable): i'm just worried about kate

[0:09:57] Trustee Rogers (probable): Louise yes

[0:09:58] Trustee Fast (probable): and her microphone's gone off and she's Kate Louise could you check in let's wait a few

[0:10:06] Trustee Fast (probable): minutes for Kate Louise to join us again meanwhile I'll see if I've got these somewhere in my stuff

[0:10:13] Trustee Fast (probable): and uh um send them around by email oh that's right Kate Louise we can't hear you she's still

[0:10:29] Trustee Fast (probable): with us in the chat yeah

[0:10:30] Trustee Rogers (probable): you were perfectly fine and then your camera went out and then

[0:10:34] Trustee Rogers (probable): and and then now your mic says you're muted can

[0:10:38] Trustee Stamford (probable): you hear me now yes thank you okay

[0:10:41] Trustee Fast (probable): um

[0:10:42] Trustee Stamford (probable): i seem to

[0:10:42] Trustee Stamford (probable): freeze right up so um everything froze for a minute there so let me just see if i get my

[0:10:49] Trustee Stamford (probable): camera on again okay so people can still hear me yeah

[0:10:55] Trustee Rogers (probable): great yeah

[0:10:57] Trustee Stamford (probable): okay thanks so

[0:11:01] Trustee Fast (probable): if people would

[0:11:02] Trustee Fast (probable): like i can i can walk through the changes i marked up in red the differences between um

[0:11:09] Trustee Fast (probable): what's in front of us in the bylaw and uh and what we had decided as a local trust committee before

[0:11:17] Trustee Fast (probable): or what i think might be more efficient is we just adopt what's in the um

[0:11:24] Trustee Fast (probable): draft bylaw if people agree and then we can we can deal with these guidelines

[0:11:31] Trustee Fast (probable): guidelines again later in public. Anyway, there's just a couple of suggestions.

[0:11:36] Trustee Fast (probable): Could

[0:11:36] Trustee Rogers (probable): you explain that last option? Because how do we deal with the guidelines if we now have a

[0:11:40] Trustee Rogers (probable): bylaw?

[0:11:43] Trustee Fast (probable): The bylaw doesn't include anything about applicants. We might want to adjust these to fit

[0:11:57] Trustee Fast (probable): fit with what's over there in the bylaw or we might like to adjust the bylaw to fit with what

[0:12:05] Trustee Fast (probable): we decided earlier

[0:12:06] Trustee Rogers (probable): which is which

[0:12:08] Trustee Rogers (probable): is leads us to the same issue that the vire pm said is that we

[0:12:13] Trustee Rogers (probable): then have to amend the bylaw later anyway yeah

[0:12:17] Trustee Fast (probable): so that's why i'm thinking we could adopt it today

[0:12:19] Trustee Fast (probable): and then just these guidelines are simple.

[0:12:27] Trustee Rogers (probable): So Kate Lee, I'm sorry, did you have a question?

[0:12:30] Trustee Rogers (probable): Cause I have some context.

[0:12:31] Trustee Stamford (probable): Please go ahead.

[0:12:33] Trustee Stamford (probable): I'm just thinking that I, sorry,

[0:12:36] Trustee Stamford (probable): I should have looked at the guidelines.

[0:12:37] Trustee Stamford (probable): I forgot that we had asked those.

[0:12:39] Trustee Stamford (probable): Is there anything that is completely in contravention

[0:12:44] Trustee Stamford (probable): between the two?

[0:12:46] Trustee Fast (probable): I'll run through the sheet here.

[0:12:49] Trustee Fast (probable): The differences is that delegations have up to five minutes to speak in the draft bylaw, whereas our guidelines, we said 10 minutes per each delegation to speak.

[0:13:04] Trustee Fast (probable): The bylaw has a 15-minute delegation period, whereas we didn't have a specific period in these guidelines, but then that's what staff would do when they put the agenda together.

[0:13:17] Trustee Fast (probable): other um that's the big one the other one is uh the um bylaw specifies three minutes per person

[0:13:31] Trustee Fast (probable): in the public comments town hall um and we didn't have a uh anything about timing for

[0:13:42] Trustee Fast (probable): we just had a 10 minute period oh okay um

[0:13:49] Trustee Stamford (probable): but in all these cases as a committee we can adjust

[0:13:53] Trustee Stamford (probable): adjust those times and for a specific situation yes

[0:13:58] Trustee Fast (probable): I believe in the bylaw it says um if everybody

[0:14:01] Trustee Fast (probable): agrees if it's unanimous that's all we

[0:14:04] Trustee Rogers (probable): can do so we can only adjust them once we're in the meeting

[0:14:08] Trustee Rogers (probable): though yeah yeah is the is the challenge I have let me um this is the if you don't mind the context

[0:14:20] Trustee Rogers (probable): context of this is a little complicated and it's become challenging and it actually ended

[0:14:30] Trustee Rogers (probable): up in the executive committee not agreeing on them.

[0:14:36] Trustee Rogers (probable): We think that a number of the

[0:14:41] Trustee Rogers (probable): local trust committees were a little surprised to see

[0:14:47] Trustee Rogers (probable): all of these procedures, bylaws starting in Section 18 and running through Section 40,

[0:14:53] Trustee Rogers (probable): included in this because the intent, the understanding was, including my understanding at that time,

[0:15:00] Trustee Rogers (probable): was that these special meetings were to deal with the electronic nature of the meetings.

[0:15:04] Trustee Rogers (probable): And I don't want to indicate who, where it came from, but as an efficiency staff perspective,

[0:15:13] Trustee Rogers (probable): the idea became well let's include a bunch of stuff that was developed on and for salt spring

[0:15:19] Trustee Rogers (probable): in a public process let's include all those in the bylaw so they were because that was the most

[0:15:26] Trustee Rogers (probable): recent meeting procedure bylaw that was was done so they were those four sections of the bylaw were

[0:15:33] Trustee Rogers (probable): extracted and dropped into all of these bylaws all of the southern gulf islands have removed

[0:15:40] Trustee Rogers (probable): those sections and said we're not prepared we're happy to do a meeting procedures bylaw

[0:15:51] Trustee Rogers (probable): however and of course to adopt the electronic meetings

[0:15:54] Trustee Rogers (probable): portions which are the ones before section 18 and after 40

[0:15:59] Trustee Rogers (probable): but we want to have an ability to have public commentary upon what our our codes of conduct

[0:16:10] Trustee Rogers (probable): would look like just like we did on gambier we we discussed it openly in public meetings and

[0:16:16] Trustee Rogers (probable): had some commentary and some redrafting and back and forth etc etc um and so they removed them

[0:16:22] Trustee Rogers (probable): so to gabriola and then all of the other local trust committees in the north

[0:16:29] Trustee Rogers (probable): um put them in as per with a couple of minor amendments i think on denman so we've got this

[0:16:35] Trustee Rogers (probable): sort of split process that's going on right now where some local trust committees are are adopting

[0:16:43] Trustee Rogers (probable): all of these and it seems to depend on who the vice chair is to some extent and i'm not being

[0:16:48] Trustee Rogers (probable): facetious because i i was sort of one that thought this should not be done in this in this way

[0:16:56] Trustee Rogers (probable): and sue allen thought and peter chair luckham thought it was fine the way it was and laura

[0:17:01] Trustee Rogers (probable): Anyway, so I'm sort of still of the view, even though I think it's a minimal impact in Gambier local trust area, as it would have been on Bolinas when Chelsea where we don't have a lot of public input that like a public people at our regular meetings.

[0:17:26] Trustee Rogers (probable): We get a lot when there's a big issue on the table, but we don't get a lot normally, is that we shouldn't do this in this fashion.

[0:17:36] Trustee Rogers (probable): It's sort of a matter of principle, in my view, is that we should not be putting into a bylaw how the meeting is conducted.

[0:17:48] Trustee Rogers (probable): Plus there's some section there that I just don't think should apply in our way.

[0:17:51] Trustee Rogers (probable): like section 40 just doesn't doesn't make any sense to most local trust communities except

[0:17:58] Trustee Rogers (probable): salt spring um so i have have taken the position up until now that they should be removed and then

[0:18:05] Trustee Rogers (probable): put on ask to be brought back when we can discuss them line by line give us a chance to redraft them

[0:18:11] Trustee Rogers (probable): and we do have our procedures policy in place that we can fall back on until we decide to

[0:18:19] Trustee Rogers (probable): include them into the bylaw and i recall in fact rpm cower that that was always intended to be the

[0:18:26] Trustee Rogers (probable): next step of the once we decided the policy was to then amend the bylaw to include them in in the um

[0:18:34] Trustee Rogers (probable): in the bylaw or a form of them in the bylaw but once they're in they're sort of then it'll be

[0:18:42] Trustee Rogers (probable): more i think it'll be more difficult to get them out so i'm sort of of the view that we just we

[0:18:47] Trustee Rogers (probable): don't put them in given that we have the procedure that's even though i don't think it makes a big

[0:18:53] Trustee Rogers (probable): practical difference in this local trust area and i know that chair fast and i don't agree on this

[0:19:00] Trustee Rogers (probable): and um because we we've had a chance to go around it um yes uh we talked about not about this issue

[0:19:10] Trustee Rogers (probable): but about how the other issue that the RPM brought up

[0:19:16] Trustee Rogers (probable): about number five and the motion number five

[0:19:20] Trustee Rogers (probable): at executive committee.

[0:19:22] Trustee Rogers (probable): And I can explain what that conversation was about

[0:19:25] Trustee Rogers (probable): because interestingly, the director and the CAO

[0:19:29] Trustee Rogers (probable): have recommended that we not do what that motion number five.

[0:19:33] Trustee Rogers (probable): So they've actually wrote a report saying

[0:19:36] Trustee Rogers (probable): they don't recommend we add a position

[0:19:38] Trustee Rogers (probable): at this point in time.

[0:19:41] Trustee Rogers (probable): So we've got this, it's this odd scenario where we have a number of different points of view. And we talked about it a lot at the executive committee yesterday about what to do about staffing and effectively we came down to the point where we're going to make it through the next six weeks using current staff and we'll figure it out after that.

[0:20:04] Trustee Rogers (probable): and i'm paraphrasing a little bit but that's sort of where i think very nice chair fast or chair

[0:20:09] Trustee Rogers (probable): fast you degree that's sort of where we ended up at the end of the day the cao said we'll make it

[0:20:14] Trustee Rogers (probable): work for the next 21 meetings which was six weeks and we'll we'll electronically and then we'll

[0:20:22] Trustee Rogers (probable): figure out what to do going forward and i think the hope is we'll be back into the vice chair

[0:20:26] Trustee Rogers (probable): model again that we'll be back in the in person but then but we'll see anyway it's complicated

[0:20:31] Trustee Rogers (probable): and it's it and that's all of the context from my perspective i'm not particularly in favor of

[0:20:38] Trustee Rogers (probable): putting provisions like this in a special meeting called to deal with the electronic thing and so

[0:20:45] Trustee Rogers (probable): it's more a matter of principle than it is a matter of the the actual although i went through

[0:20:50] Trustee Rogers (probable): it last night and found probably seven or eight of them that i i would like to amend um i don't

[0:20:57] Trustee Rogers (probable): like the 15-minute timeline, I think the chair should have a discretion, not whoever the deputy

[0:21:03] Trustee Rogers (probable): secretary is. I guess that's Becky at this moment. Is that her title? I think the chair should have

[0:21:08] Trustee Rogers (probable): the discretion to decide whether people should be heard or not. I think that putting in strict

[0:21:16] Trustee Rogers (probable): timelines is always problematic in my view. I think we should be a little bit more flexible

[0:21:21] Trustee Rogers (probable): and that the chair should have some discretion to do that before the meeting actually starts,

[0:21:27] Trustee Rogers (probable): rather than wait for the three of us to get together and make that decision.

[0:21:32] Trustee Rogers (probable): So there's some things I'd like to tweak in it and take out and change.

[0:21:37] Trustee Rogers (probable): So that's my view. But we can spend the time doing that right now.

[0:21:41] Trustee Rogers (probable): But I think that should be a public process, frankly.

[0:21:46] Trustee Rogers (probable): Thank

[0:21:47] Trustee Fast (probable): you, Dan. And now that we're back to the Gambier Local Trust Committee and the COVID situation that has put us into this electronic meeting situation where we have to cope, I'm wondering, Kate Louise, do you have any thoughts?

[0:22:07] Trustee Fast (probable): thoughts? Are you willing to pass, for example, big chunks of this to allow us to have electronic

[0:22:14] Trustee Fast (probable): meetings? Or would you be interested in just going ahead with it? Or what's your take, Kate Louise?

[0:22:23] Trustee Fast (probable): I've sent around the, by the way, the guidelines are in your email. Okay.

[0:22:28] Trustee Stamford (probable): You know, because it is

[0:22:30] Trustee Stamford (probable): a special, like I'm six and one half of this and the other, as always, because it's a special

[0:22:35] Trustee Stamford (probable): meeting it's not the same process as we would and i thought the whole point of special meeting

[0:22:40] Trustee Stamford (probable): was more administrative straightforward type of items um as much as possible um

[0:22:48] Trustee Stamford (probable): i think it's kind of weird that you compared us uh trustee rogers to bolinas from chelsea when

[0:22:55] Trustee Stamford (probable): we are quite a different organized structure and participation but um i do understand we don't

[0:23:04] Trustee Stamford (probable): often get a lot of people here attending our meetings, but there are, it depends on the

[0:23:11] Trustee Stamford (probable): subject, right? We can't get a lot coming in. So I think the guidelines themselves and

[0:23:17] Trustee Stamford (probable): the procedures are the important part. I've always found that part of our strength as

[0:23:23] Trustee Stamford (probable): a local trust committee is our ability to be more flexible and to allow the voices to

[0:23:29] Trustee Stamford (probable): to the point where it makes more sense to be more inclusive, we are a smaller group.

[0:23:39] Trustee Stamford (probable): On the other hand, I'm a little, and this is where I think we do need to move this into

[0:23:45] Trustee Stamford (probable): the public arena and give it more thought, is the idea that we are putting a lot of judgment

[0:23:51] Trustee Stamford (probable): on the chair can make the chair a focus of a lot of vitriol.

[0:23:57] Trustee Stamford (probable): all. It's interesting, this is a topic that came up, I think, yesterday on the CBC morning

[0:24:04] Trustee Stamford (probable): show about codes of conduct and what is it trying to do? Is it trying to stifle proper

[0:24:12] Trustee Stamford (probable): debate or is it trying to stifle hatred? So that kind of conversation is out there and

[0:24:20] Trustee Stamford (probable): it's not just the local trust committee or the Islands Trust. So I think for me, I would

[0:24:27] Trustee Stamford (probable): like to go ahead with the procedure or the actual electronic abilities in this

[0:24:35] Trustee Stamford (probable): bylaw leave the others aside and go through it a little bit more to look at

[0:24:40] Trustee Stamford (probable): the implications but with the intent to maintain a certain level of flexibility

[0:24:46] Trustee Stamford (probable): given the type of local trust area that we have which is not as participatory as

[0:24:53] Trustee Stamford (probable): others um so i want to encourage that participation as much as possible so that's what i was thinking

[0:24:58] Trustee Stamford (probable): of that i don't know what to say about the um the staff position it's um that's awkward i've

[0:25:09] Trustee Stamford (probable): been advocating for a staff position for the organization that i chair so it's very hard for

[0:25:16] Trustee Stamford (probable): me to say nobody else gets an extra staff person right uh but i also know that they will impact

[0:25:22] Trustee Stamford (probable): each other yeah

[0:25:24] Trustee Fast (probable): and i think it's hard for all of us to have uh to keep only one hat on in the

[0:25:30] Trustee Fast (probable): meeting and i appreciate everybody uh uh reflecting on that yeah go ahead dan well

[0:25:36] Trustee Rogers (probable): i was just going to

[0:25:36] Trustee Rogers (probable): say um you can rest assured that fpc and we're all members of it will be dealing with that issue

[0:25:42] Trustee Rogers (probable): because a number of local trust committees have sent a variety of different motions have have

[0:25:48] Trustee Rogers (probable): have sent them off from some some said find some way to resource it some past emotion the way it

[0:25:55] Trustee Rogers (probable): is in the in the thing so it's it's on the fpc agenda for the 16th i think it is whatever the

[0:26:01] Trustee Rogers (probable): date is of the fpc meeting so whether we pass it or not is it's going to be on their agenda

[0:26:09] Trustee Rogers (probable): well

[0:26:10] Trustee Stamford (probable): i would recommend just dropping it then it doesn't make any difference to us

[0:26:15] Trustee Rogers (probable): yeah well

[0:26:16] Trustee Stamford (probable): i don't know

[0:26:17] Trustee Rogers (probable): what to what chair fast thinks but the other the other thing is i know

[0:26:20] Trustee Rogers (probable): a couple of local trust committees amended the motion to say words to the effect of that fpc be

[0:26:27] Trustee Rogers (probable): encouraged to find resources to make this work or something like that something generic

[0:26:33] Trustee Rogers (probable): that's what gabriola did i'm not sure maybe somebody else did i'm not sure who else did that

[0:26:39] Trustee Rogers (probable): um

[0:26:39] Trustee Fast (probable): yeah uh hornby did um request that

[0:26:46] Trustee Fast (probable): fpc uh consider no yes fpc consider allocating

[0:26:54] Trustee Fast (probable): funds and resources from the 2022-23 fiscal year budget for electronic meeting support

[0:27:00] Trustee Fast (probable): for hornby local trust committee meetings so we can do something like that too well

[0:27:05] Trustee Stamford (probable): do we need to do anything

[0:27:07] Trustee Fast (probable): let's deal with the four motions that are in front of us or sorry

[0:27:12] Trustee Fast (probable): five of them and um do we want because we're an hour into this meeting and we've talked about it

[0:27:20] Trustee Fast (probable): and i haven't heard uh specifics yet so i'm looking on page two of our agenda

[0:27:24] Trustee Fast (probable): So

[0:27:25] Trustee Rogers (probable): I can make a motion. I'll move that bylaw number 155 comma 22 to 2022 be amended by removing sections 18 through 40 and that those sections be brought back to the local trust committee for consideration at a future meeting.

[0:28:02] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay, got a motion.

[0:28:05] Trustee Stamford (probable): Just a friendly amendment before we go

[0:28:09] Trustee Fast (probable): ahead Kate Louise.

[0:28:11] Trustee Stamford (probable): I would like to amend it with a regular business.

[0:28:16] Trustee Rogers (probable): Oh, a future regular business.

[0:28:20] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay, you got that Diane.

[0:28:24] Trustee Fast (probable): I think she probably does.

[0:28:26] Trustee Fast (probable): Yeah, I do. Thank you.

[0:28:27] Trustee Fast (probable): Thank you. Just partly making sure after this time that you're still with it. Go ahead.

[0:28:32] Trustee Fast (probable): Kate Louise.

[0:28:35] Trustee Fast (probable): Kate Louise has seconded and any more discussion all those in favor I'm for electronic meeting so

[0:28:48] Trustee Fast (probable): that passes unanimously thank you and next then

[0:28:53] Trustee Rogers (probable): I'll move that the Gambier Island local I'm

[0:28:55] Trustee Rogers (probable): reading right Diane right from the staff report and I'm just going to walk through the various

[0:29:01] Trustee Rogers (probable): motions so just so you don't have to try and keep up with me um that the gambier island local trust

[0:29:07] Trustee Rogers (probable): committee bylaw number 155 as amended cited as gambier island local trust committee meeting

[0:29:14] Trustee Rogers (probable): procedure bylaw 2022 uh be read uh first time

[0:29:20] Trustee Fast (probable): do i have a seconder thank you i have a seconder

[0:29:23] Trustee Fast (probable): any more discussion go ahead dan no

[0:29:27] Trustee Rogers (probable): no sorry i'm starting to

[0:29:28] Trustee Rogers (probable): vote all

[0:29:29] Trustee Fast (probable): the question all those in

[0:29:30] Trustee Fast (probable): favor three hands went up thank you very much next one and

[0:29:34] Trustee Rogers (probable): i'll move that the gambier island

[0:29:35] Trustee Rogers (probable): local trust committee bylaw number 155 as amended cited as gambier island local trust committee

[0:29:40] Trustee Rogers (probable): meeting procedures by law be read a second time do

[0:29:46] Trustee Fast (probable): i have a seconder

[0:29:47] Trustee Stamford (probable): i second that thank you

[0:29:49] Trustee Fast (probable): uh any discussions all in favor that three hands went up thank you that passes unanimously next one

[0:29:57] Trustee Fast (probable): I'll

[0:29:57] Trustee Rogers (probable): move that the Gambier Island Local Trust Committee

[0:30:00] Trustee Rogers (probable): bylaw number 155 is amended cited as Gambier Island local trust committee meeting procedures

[0:30:04] Trustee Rogers (probable): bylaw 2022 be read a third time do

[0:30:07] Trustee Fast (probable): I have a seconder thank you any more discussion call the

[0:30:12] Trustee Fast (probable): question all those in favor three hands went up thank you very much and the final one there

[0:30:18] Trustee Fast (probable): go ahead Dan okay

[0:30:19] Trustee Rogers (probable): I'll move that the Gambier Island local trust committee bylaw number 155

[0:30:23] Trustee Rogers (probable): is amended cited as Gambier Island local trust committee by meetings procedures bylaw 2022

[0:30:28] Trustee Rogers (probable): 2022 be forward to the secretary of the islands trust for approval by the executive committee

[0:30:33] Trustee Rogers (probable): and

[0:30:34] Trustee Fast (probable): do i have a seconder thank you kate louise um any more discussion hearing none all those in

[0:30:40] Trustee Fast (probable): favor aye three hands went up that passes unanimously thank you very much any more motions

[0:30:45] Trustee Fast (probable): i

[0:30:49] Trustee Stamford (probable): don't think we need it i'm

[0:30:51] Trustee Fast (probable): not hearing any more motions okay so we're just going to move on to the

[0:30:54] Trustee Fast (probable): other parts of the agenda then thank you very much heather and um uh everybody for your uh

[0:31:00] Trustee Fast (probable): careful consideration there we're moving on now to 3.2 this is the Gambier New Brighton

[0:31:08] Trustee Fast (probable): barge ramp here on the agenda and I can report from executive committee that

[0:31:18] Trustee Fast (probable): your staff will follow up on the letter that was on our agenda yesterday that Kate Louise had asked

[0:31:26] Trustee Fast (probable): request for the executive committee to follow up on the letter to the province read the new

[0:31:30] Trustee Fast (probable): right dock so clearly follow her team will be following up on that and uh but is this what

[0:31:36] Trustee Fast (probable): this is about kate louise uh

[0:31:39] Trustee Stamford (probable): no this is uh the uh this is the ramp that's beside the dock so um

[0:31:47] Trustee Stamford (probable): all i i need to say is the application period is closed um the uh a planner did make a submission

[0:31:58] Trustee Stamford (probable): Commission on behalf of behalf of the Islands Trust regarding zoning that letter suggested that

[0:32:09] Trustee Stamford (probable): a rezoning would be required for this so I don't know what is the next steps and whether or not

[0:32:17] Trustee Stamford (probable): this how this should be approached go

[0:32:22] Trustee Fast (probable): ahead

[0:32:23] Voice 2: Heather Keller yeah I want to I did want to

[0:32:26] Voice 2: speak to this um we did send a referral to the province letting them know that we didn't think

[0:32:31] Voice 2: the zoning allowed for the ramp um and as i was preparing to speak to it this morning i was

[0:32:38] Voice 2: looking at the zoning maps to just um get my bearings and i looking at the maps i thought

[0:32:46] Voice 2: i don't know that that's actually accurate i i think that the ramp actually might be zoned

[0:32:53] Voice 2: properly. And so, and I put a map together to show you why I think that, why I suspect that,

[0:33:03] Voice 2: but essentially what I am going to recommend is that staff go away and just confirm

[0:33:11] Voice 2: one way or another. If we find that the zoning is actually appropriate, we would amend our

[0:33:19] Voice 2: referral response to the province and provide uh an alternate letter we'll resend a letter

[0:33:27] Voice 2: um if if for some reason we find that the zoning isn't appropriate um we would want to come back

[0:33:34] Voice 2: to the ltc with um a bylaw to amend this the zoning map um and i do think that we could do

[0:33:43] Voice 2: that relatively quickly it's a zoning bylaw amendment um you could actually waive the public

[0:33:51] Voice 2: hearing for that if you wanted to so it could be done fairly quickly and easily there's not a

[0:33:55] Voice 2: a lot of drafting involved etc um but i actually suspect that the zoning is okay um i was quite

[0:34:05] Trustee Stamford (probable): surprised when i i

[0:34:06] Voice 2: know i know yeah i mean part of the issue is um part of the issue is that

[0:34:13] Voice 2: the the maps that come along so the schedule that's attached to your zoning bylaw is a map

[0:34:20] Voice 2: it's a zoning map it's in black and white and it doesn't that the zoning boundaries don't

[0:34:25] Voice 2: necessarily line up with parcel lines and so there is a section in the zoning bylaw that tells you

[0:34:31] Voice 2: how to interpret that you know like if it doesn't line up with the zoning boundaries um here's what

[0:34:36] Voice 2: you do um i actually think that those two things together might allow us to you know conclude that

[0:34:43] Voice 2: the barge ramp is sewn properly um so uh yeah

[0:34:48] Trustee Stamford (probable): so

[0:34:50] Trustee Fast (probable): it sounds like it's in the

[0:34:50] Trustee Fast (probable): process go ahead kate

[0:34:52] Trustee Fast (probable): louise well

[0:34:53] Trustee Stamford (probable): i guess because um because of what's happening with the dock and yeah impact and not

[0:35:01] Trustee Stamford (probable): knowing what the overall mission is for these these two structures um um it's causing a lot

[0:35:10] Trustee Stamford (probable): a lot of consternation in the community.

[0:35:13] Trustee Stamford (probable): The original application seems fairly straightforward.

[0:35:16] Trustee Stamford (probable): It's staying as community institution,

[0:35:23] Trustee Stamford (probable): but whether or not that will be then translated

[0:35:26] Trustee Stamford (probable): into a private venture that allows for charges

[0:35:33] Trustee Stamford (probable): on accessing those facilities, that is a concern.

[0:35:37] Trustee Stamford (probable): So if we were going to look at any rezoning,

[0:35:39] Trustee Stamford (probable): we wouldn't be able to waive public input or anything that this is become a real hot point

[0:35:46] Trustee Stamford (probable): but it would be good for planner or for some uh focus on this unfortunately um because mainly

[0:35:55] Trustee Stamford (probable): there's some question about the private property that it seems to trespass on and i assumed that

[0:36:02] Trustee Stamford (probable): all this was going to be you know done professionally when it because it was all done

[0:36:06] Trustee Stamford (probable): through the province but i'm not sure that the surveys had been accomplished as suggested

[0:36:13] Trustee Stamford (probable): originally it's before my time so there's a lot of little details on this that have caused

[0:36:19] Trustee Stamford (probable): major angst along with the dollar so and then you know it's nice to hear the executive needs

[0:36:26] Trustee Stamford (probable): following up on the doc and um just for information um the gambier or the new brighton

[0:36:35] Trustee Stamford (probable): doc committee that is run by our community association is starting to push again and

[0:36:40] Trustee Stamford (probable): act become more active um and moving towards sdrd to get some more support from them and i'm also

[0:36:55] Trustee Stamford (probable): arranging to meet with bc theories okay

[0:36:59] Trustee Fast (probable): so it sounds to me that you're welcoming

[0:37:03] Trustee Fast (probable): our regional planning managers offer to reconfirm the zoning okay and heather do you need any

[0:37:10] Trustee Fast (probable): instruction from us or i

[0:37:12] Voice 2: don't think so no um i will let you know one way or the other as soon

[0:37:16] Voice 2: as i can and we have confirmation of that okay yeah

[0:37:20] Voice 2: very good no i don't need a motion thank you

[0:37:23] Trustee Fast (probable): okay thank you did you have anything you wanted to say trustee rogers no okay let's move on then

[0:37:28] Trustee Fast (probable): thank you very much to 3.2 I'm conscious of the regional planning manager's time because

[0:37:34] Trustee Fast (probable): she's got all these islands to handle all by herself at the moment timber supply review

[0:37:42] Trustee Fast (probable): verbal report who's taking this one

[0:37:45] Trustee Stamford (probable): I don't know what to is there anything the staff because

[0:37:50] Trustee Stamford (probable): you're also applying you've also had to respond to that too right well

[0:37:56] Voice 2: I can I can kind of speak

[0:37:57] Voice 2: to that we we um let's see how do i introduce it i

[0:38:03] Trustee Rogers (probable): don't even know the context of this yeah that's

[0:38:05] Voice 2: i'll give you a little context so the flimrod um the ministry that's involved in forestry they are

[0:38:12] Voice 2: doing i have to read it because i'll get it wrong um they're conducting a review of what they call

[0:38:20] Voice 2: the Sunshine Coast Timber Supply Area. And I'm quoting from one of their pamphlets,

[0:38:28] Voice 2: under Section 8 of the Forest Act, the chief forester must review the timber supply for each

[0:38:34] Voice 2: timber supply area at least once every 10 years and determine an appropriate allowable annual cut

[0:38:41] Voice 2: hut of forest land. So apparently, there is a there's a

[0:38:47] Voice 2: public process for comment on that, that process that they're

[0:38:52] Voice 2: going through. And there are some documents associated with

[0:38:55] Voice 2: that. And there's a comment period that ends on February

[0:38:58] Voice 2: 15. We did. Yeah, we did. We did get contacted by SCRD. They

[0:39:07] Voice 2: they've been referred those documents

[0:39:10] Voice 2: and SCRD did ask me, staff,

[0:39:15] Voice 2: if we wanted to have anything included

[0:39:19] Voice 2: in our response to the referral,

[0:39:21] Voice 2: like as a joint response with SCRD.

[0:39:25] Voice 2: I indicated to them that we don't have the staff capacity

[0:39:30] Voice 2: at the moment to really be looking at this in detail,

[0:39:34] Voice 2: but I'm also sort of concluding

[0:39:37] Voice 2: that this is a crown function on crown land, right?

[0:39:41] Voice 2: So there's not a lot that we have by way of impacting that,

[0:39:48] Voice 2: but it's definitely something that we should know about

[0:39:51] Voice 2: and understand as we're going into the Gambier OCP project

[0:39:58] Voice 2: and kind of have that as background information.

[0:40:02] Voice 2: information um so that's that's kind of where we've concluded so

[0:40:09] Trustee Stamford (probable): if I understand then you aren't

[0:40:12] Trustee Stamford (probable): there is no real role for uh staff to participate in responding to them

[0:40:20] Voice 2: there isn't yeah and there's

[0:40:26] Trustee Stamford (probable): not really staff for OCP to respond to this either because this is one of the primary reasons the

[0:40:33] Trustee Stamford (probable): official community plan uh request was made was exactly this scenario well

[0:40:39] Voice 2: i will say that so we

[0:40:41] Voice 2: have a new planner on board her name is marlis she started on tuesday um she may be watching the

[0:40:47] Voice 2: streaming meeting um today uh because i did i did alert her to all of this and all of these

[0:40:53] Voice 2: documents that were forwarded by flynnward i've forwarded to her um because i think it is

[0:40:58] Voice 2: important information uh and at least part of communication that goes out to the community about

[0:41:08] Voice 2: forestry and the context of forestry and who's in charge of what um so so this so i've i have

[0:41:17] Voice 2: forwarded all this information to marlist and i have asked her to make sure that it's considered

[0:41:23] Voice 2: considered as part of the OCP project um and it likely will be part of your discussion paper that

[0:41:31] Voice 2: um addresses forestry specifically at least some mention of it or reference to it I don't know if

[0:41:37] Voice 2: that helps I'm

[0:41:40] Trustee Fast (probable): going to I'm going to ask Trustee Rogers go ahead well

[0:41:44] Trustee Rogers (probable): I just have a question guys

[0:41:47] Trustee Rogers (probable): Guys, I haven't seen the referral, and I totally understand that we don't have a forester on staff.

[0:41:54] Trustee Rogers (probable): It's very hard for us to provide professional input into these things, plus our planning staff is challenged at the moment, for sure.

[0:42:04] Trustee Rogers (probable): My question is, I'm trying to remember back about with the Gambier OCP about forestry.

[0:42:12] Trustee Rogers (probable): is there because as i recall the last time you amended the ocp the province required that it

[0:42:21] Trustee Rogers (probable): be changed to allow for commercial for commercial harvesting is i mean i'm i'm paraphrasing because

[0:42:27] Trustee Rogers (probable): i know the language is different but i think there was an attempt to restrict commercial

[0:42:31] Trustee Rogers (probable): harvesting and then they said no we're not going to approve is it am i getting my narrative right

[0:42:37] Trustee Rogers (probable): am i am i wrong about that kate louise uh

[0:42:40] Trustee Stamford (probable): it was before my time um if i remember correctly

[0:42:44] Trustee Stamford (probable): uh what i heard from neighbors is somewhat like i'm not even sure if it got to referral

[0:42:51] Trustee Stamford (probable): specifically they just said right off the bat in order to pass this you have to include a certain

[0:42:59] Trustee Stamford (probable): amount of forestry right so language is put in there and now after the the 2011 to 2014

[0:43:11] Trustee Stamford (probable): frustration over the large the two large blocks um that was the impetus for

[0:43:19] Trustee Stamford (probable): my request to the local trust committee to open the official community plan and try again

[0:43:25] Trustee Stamford (probable): end to tighten up the zoning as much as possible and at least bring the conversation to the table

[0:43:34] Trustee Stamford (probable): with the Squamish nation specifically about where is this going and the concern that the community

[0:43:43] Trustee Stamford (probable): because a lot of people have seen this a lot of people that are active anyway have seen this

[0:43:49] Trustee Stamford (probable): report is the very same structure for those two larger blocks is still there

[0:43:57] Trustee Stamford (probable): and it's a combined community forest and small woodlot I think it's there's a

[0:44:08] Trustee Stamford (probable): combination so there was a some assurance from Flynn Road at the time

[0:44:16] Trustee Stamford (probable): that they would not consider those blocks in their same configuration and

[0:44:20] Trustee Stamford (probable): And although the map is extremely tiny, it looks like those blocks are still there.

[0:44:24] Trustee Stamford (probable): So that's the concern.

[0:44:27] Trustee Rogers (probable): Yeah.

[0:44:28] Trustee Rogers (probable): I

[0:44:28] Trustee Stamford (probable): would like to have that.

[0:44:28] Trustee Rogers (probable): So my question is, is there anything in our OCP that it would be worth bringing to the attention of the timber supply folk?

[0:44:39] Trustee Rogers (probable): And saying, in your, sorry, the Gambier Island OCP, that would say, you know, as you're considering, keep in mind, here's the provision.

[0:44:48] Trustee Rogers (probable): Because that's what the planner's function would be.

[0:44:49] Trustee Rogers (probable): yeah

[0:44:50] Trustee Stamford (probable): no i understand it would be a

[0:44:51] Trustee Rogers (probable): technical review i don't i can't recall whether there's

[0:44:54] Trustee Rogers (probable): anything in there there

[0:44:55] Trustee Stamford (probable): wasn't anything before um so i don't see that there would be any change in

[0:45:02] Trustee Stamford (probable): that um i think there is a role for local trust committee uh just to remind um lynn roard of

[0:45:12] Trustee Stamford (probable): of the history of those blocks um and that we're looking forward to and that we are

[0:45:18] Trustee Stamford (probable): have opened our OCP up and we want to work through the conversation.

[0:45:24] Trustee Fast (probable): Do you want to write a draft letter from the chair? Because a motion could be something like that,

[0:45:33] Trustee Fast (probable): the Gambier Island Local Trust Committee requests the chair to issue a letter of response or something

[0:45:39] Trustee Fast (probable): to regarding the timber supply review for Gambler Island?

[0:45:50] Trustee Fast (probable): Sorry?

[0:45:50] Trustee Stamford (probable): Is Diane getting all that?

[0:45:53] Trustee Fast (probable): I don't know.

[0:45:55] Trustee Stamford (probable): I think it's worth just reminding them.

[0:45:58] Trustee Stamford (probable): I'm looking through the port.

[0:46:00] Trustee Stamford (probable): It's a really interesting report in terms of overall

[0:46:03] Trustee Stamford (probable): how they approach these things.

[0:46:04] Trustee Stamford (probable): I found out a lot going through it is, you know,

[0:46:08] Trustee Stamford (probable): recognizing that you know they do know the gambler has a community watershed there's a watershed

[0:46:14] Trustee Stamford (probable): there that supports a community a lot of the issues they do expect interface issues they note

[0:46:23] Trustee Stamford (probable): that so just a reminder of what those how how intense those those interface issues got but i

[0:46:34] Trustee Stamford (probable): do understand that this in terms of zoning and our official community plan this is the same as it was

[0:46:43] Trustee Stamford (probable): 10 years ago and you know that's the frustration i'm having this this is exactly why we wanted to

[0:46:50] Trustee Stamford (probable): open the lcd

[0:46:51] Trustee Fast (probable): okay uh kate louise just in in terms of timing at this meeting do you want to um bring

[0:47:00] Trustee Fast (probable): if that's the role of the local trust committee do you want to draft a letter or make some kind

[0:47:05] Trustee Fast (probable): of motion or do you want to wait until uh staff have had a chance to make their referral and

[0:47:11] Trustee Fast (probable): maybe you've seen it or heather do you have a suggestion well

[0:47:15] Voice 2: i'll i'll say that um we don't

[0:47:18] Voice 2: plan to draft any anything we haven't been officially referred and we don't plan on

[0:47:25] Voice 2: drafting anything in response um i mean if there's a referral it'll be from scrd a referral response

[0:47:32] Voice 2: So I guess if the LTC wants to draft a letter,

[0:47:39] Voice 2: that might be your best approach at this point.

[0:47:43] Voice 2: Okay.

[0:47:43] Trustee Stamford (probable): I would like to move that motion.

[0:47:48] Voice 3: Okay.

[0:47:49] Trustee Fast (probable): Did you catch that, Diane?

[0:47:53] Voice 3: I don't know if I got exactly that,

[0:47:56] Voice 3: but that the chair issue a letter of response

[0:47:58] Voice 3: regarding the timber supply review for Gambier Island.

[0:48:05] Trustee Fast (probable): That sounds-

[0:48:06] Trustee Stamford (probable): Yeah, that'll do.

[0:48:09] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay. And if we say that the Gambier Island Local Trust Committee requests the chair to, then it lets me put it in the letter and makes it look nice and formal.

[0:48:22] Trustee Stamford (probable): Yeah.

[0:48:23] Trustee Fast (probable): So, Diane, if you could add that at the beginning of the motion, that Gambier Island Local Trust Committee requests the chair to issue a, or whatever we said. Okay.

[0:48:33] Trustee Fast (probable): Then do it. Can you read it back?

[0:48:37] Voice 3: uh that the gambia island local trust committee requests the chair to issue a letter of response

[0:48:41] Voice 3: regarding the timber supply review for gambier island thank you do

[0:48:46] Trustee Fast (probable): you have the seconder sorry

[0:48:48] Trustee Fast (probable): is that is that good kate louise do you want to move that take

[0:48:52] Trustee Stamford (probable): a uh amendment sorry diane

[0:48:56] Trustee Stamford (probable): um it's the timber uh supply sta i'm just trying to look with sta it's the timber supply report

[0:49:05] Trustee Stamford (probable): for the Sunshine Coast pertaining to Pampere Island.

[0:49:13] Voice 3: Yeah, I got that, thank you.

[0:49:15] Trustee Stamford (probable): Okay, great.

[0:49:16] Trustee Stamford (probable): I'm just looking at the map now.

[0:49:18] Trustee Stamford (probable): It's such a tiny map, but I'm just making sure,

[0:49:20] Trustee Stamford (probable): I mean, Anvil is in there.

[0:49:23] Trustee Stamford (probable): So I would be working with Trustee Fass

[0:49:29] Trustee Stamford (probable): to develop a letter about timber,

[0:49:33] Trustee Stamford (probable): the timber scenario as a whole on the island

[0:49:36] Trustee Stamford (probable): and the impact, the cumulative effects

[0:49:39] Trustee Stamford (probable): of the different types of forestry that's available on this island and the overall impact, the cumulative impact.

[0:49:47] Trustee Stamford (probable): I'm not sure if it's worth including other islands at this point.

[0:49:51] Trustee Fast (probable): Let's just focus because we've got the

[0:49:55] Trustee Stamford (probable): Gambier

[0:49:56] Trustee Fast (probable): Island OCP to review, to research it.

[0:49:59] Trustee Fast (probable): So I'll present that

[0:49:59] Trustee Stamford (probable): motion as presented.

[0:50:02] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay. So thank you. I've got a mover. Do I have a seconder? Thank you, Trustee Rogers. Any more discussion?

[0:50:08] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay, all those in favor. Thank you that passes unanimously. Thanks very much, and I look forward to your draft.

[0:50:18] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay.

[0:50:19] Trustee Fast (probable): We have to.

[0:50:21] Trustee Stamford (probable): If we're not part of the official response, it's more stakeholder, we, as far as I can see we have till February 27, I think, I'll check again but it wasn't as early as February.

[0:50:38] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay. And if you leave a few days, because we have a process now, it has to go through Lisa and Claire and all that. Okay, good. Thank you. And very good. Then let's move on to letter of appreciation glass sponge reef protection. Kate Louise, did you want to make a similar kind of motion?

[0:50:57] Trustee Fast (probable): I

[0:50:58] Trustee Stamford (probable): should have had this out to you Diane sorry I just I moved that the Gambier Local Trust Committee

[0:51:04] Trustee Stamford (probable): direct the chair to write a letter to the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans thanking her for the

[0:51:12] Trustee Stamford (probable): decision to further protect glass sponges in the Alcats of Hell Sound region.

[0:51:23] Trustee Fast (probable): And I see a seconder

[0:51:24] Trustee Fast (probable): from Trustee Rogers thank you. Do you want to say glass sponges or do you want to say glass sponge

[0:51:30] Trustee Fast (probable): reefs we

[0:51:35] Trustee Stamford (probable): could say reefs there's gardens too right

[0:51:37] Trustee Fast (probable): okay i'm fine with it the way you've got it that's

[0:51:40] Trustee Fast (probable): fine let's

[0:51:40] Trustee Stamford (probable): just leave it like that did you

[0:51:42] Trustee Stamford (probable): want to add

[0:51:42] Trustee Fast (probable): anything heather from a staffer okay great

[0:51:46] Trustee Fast (probable): anybody go ahead kate weas i

[0:51:48] Trustee Stamford (probable): just want to add to this it might be a good idea that i write the

[0:51:55] Trustee Stamford (probable): letter on your behalf um trustee fast but i would like to send it um personally for me because i'm

[0:52:03] Trustee Stamford (probable): I'm going to just write a note underneath.

[0:52:06] Trustee Stamford (probable): Joyce Murray, her son, lives behind me.

[0:52:10] Trustee Stamford (probable): And it's a good excuse to just say, come on by for tea and say hi.

[0:52:15] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay.

[0:52:15] Trustee Fast (probable): So the motion right now, though, says it directs the chair to issue.

[0:52:20] Trustee Fast (probable): Yeah.

[0:52:21] Trustee Stamford (probable): So I will help you.

[0:52:23] Trustee Stamford (probable): The same as with the other letter.

[0:52:27] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay.

[0:52:28] Trustee Fast (probable): Because we can just put that motion right into the letter and it'll explain why the letter from the chair.

[0:52:34] Trustee Fast (probable): but then there's going to be a note from you or however you want to do it whatever you think is

[0:52:38] Trustee Fast (probable): best okay uh does that make sense to everybody clear okay then um if there's no more discussion

[0:52:45] Trustee Fast (probable): i'm going to call the question all those in favor three hands went up that passes unanimously thanks

[0:52:51] Trustee Fast (probable): everybody and uh now we're into the next meeting is when just so people know um i can't remember

[0:53:01] Trustee Fast (probable): it doesn't matter

[0:53:07] Trustee Rogers (probable): march 31st very

[0:53:10] Trustee Fast (probable): good march 31st that's just in case anybody's watching and

[0:53:14] Trustee Fast (probable): or watching the recording uh hopefully we'll be in uh back in in-person regular meetings by then

[0:53:20] Trustee Fast (probable): and uh that concludes the uh concludes today's meeting unless anybody's got anything further

[0:53:27] Trustee Fast (probable): nope hearing nothing thank you everybody and uh uh look forward to keep safe everybody and uh

[0:53:35] Trustee Fast (probable): I look forward to talking to you soon.

[0:53:38] Trustee Fast (probable): Thanks, Chair Fathom.

[0:53:39] Trustee Fast (probable): Bye-bye.

[0:53:40] Trustee Fast (probable): Do

[0:53:40] Trustee Stamford (probable): you have a couple of minutes?

[0:53:41] Trustee Stamford (probable): You two, I know

[0:53:42] Trustee Stamford (probable): we need Heather.

[0:53:45] Trustee Stamford (probable): I'm just, there was a meeting supposed to happen.

[0:53:49] Trustee Fast (probable): Bye, Diane.

[0:53:50] Trustee Fast (probable): Thank you.

[0:53:51] Trustee Fast (probable): And Heather,

[0:53:52] Trustee Fast (probable): I think we should let you go.

[0:53:53] Trustee Fast (probable): Oh no, she's got to

[0:53:54] Trustee Stamford (probable): host the meeting.

[0:53:54] Trustee Stamford (probable): Do you need me?

[0:53:56] Trustee Fast (probable): I think she

[0:53:56] Trustee Fast (probable): needs to host the meeting.

[0:53:58] Trustee Fast (probable): Oh. It's on her computer.

[0:54:00] Trustee Stamford (probable): Oh, okay, really super brief.

[0:54:02] Trustee Stamford (probable): I was supposed to go to a meeting at noon today.

[0:54:05] Trustee Stamford (probable): It was to meet the