Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, July 31, 2025

[0:04:20] Voice 7: executive director Erin

[0:04:22] Voice 14: Udall with our chamber of commerce and she arranged this specifically

[0:04:26] Voice 14: because foresight is a clean technology accelerator focusing on climate sustainability

[0:04:32] Voice 14: and 60 percent of its funding comes from federal and provincial governments it is fully remote it

[0:04:39] Voice 14: it can serve all of Canada and it is presently serving governments at all levels first nations

[0:04:46] Voice 14: universities, and businesses.

[0:04:48] Voice 14: It helps agencies to connect to the technology that they need.

[0:04:52] Voice 14: So water technology was of special interest,

[0:04:55] Voice 14: and one of the two women who met with us online,

[0:04:58] Voice 14: that is her area of expertise,

[0:05:01] Voice 14: they helped with drought challenges, decarbonizing infrastructure,

[0:05:05] Voice 14: reliable green technology, and how to apply for funding for projects.

[0:05:10] Voice 14: So two other Gabriel Lens attended,

[0:05:12] Voice 14: and we were all interested in climate solutions

[0:05:15] Voice 14: and water sustainability and we talked about local issues like building code restrictions

[0:05:20] Voice 14: that don't always work in favor of climate change solutions and we plan to meet again with others

[0:05:27] Voice 14: right across the salish sea so i'm looking forward to that and i have to thank our pd at the chamber

[0:05:34] Voice 14: of commerce for organizing that great meeting july 31st we had an islands trust conservancy

[0:05:40] Voice 14: board meeting and with you in person which is always so nice to see each other because our

[0:05:46] Voice 14: board members oh that's today the 22nd sorry which means that I got that date wrong Lisa

[0:05:54] Voice 14: in my report so I'm sorry shouldn't be doing that at midnight um but it is nice to meet in person

[0:06:02] Voice 14: because we have board members from all over the the Salish Sea area and it's really lovely to

[0:06:08] Voice 14: speak with them at the same table. We have a new board member. It's Janine Georgeson

[0:06:13] Voice 14: from Galliano Island. Some of you who know Galliano

[0:06:16] Trustee Elliott: will recognize Georgia from Island,

[0:06:18] Trustee Elliott: Georgeson Road, all sorts of Georgeson Bay.

[0:06:21] Voice 14: Her family is sixth generation Galliano and she has

[0:06:26] Voice 14: connections with several Cowichan First Nations. She's

[0:06:31] Voice 14: appointed for a two-year term and she's

[0:06:34] Voice 14: replacing Charles Kahn from Salt Spring who has served us very well these past two years.

[0:06:39] Voice 14: And we also met with the executive committee at that same meeting so I'll let Trustee Elliott

[0:06:46] Voice 14: report on that part. July 28th I had a meeting with Gabriela Transportation Society and our MLA

[0:06:57] Voice 14: Sheila Malcolmson regarding specifically BC Ferries concerns and we were very careful to

[0:07:04] Voice 14: just list our top concerns ones that she was able to deal with because she was having a meeting with

[0:07:10] Voice 14: Nicholas Jimenez the very next day who is the CAO for BC Ferries and Sheila will be reporting back

[0:07:17] Voice 14: to us on her meeting but here's what we dealt with very briefly are in order of concern first

[0:07:24] Voice 14: The first one was the electric vehicle policy

[0:07:26] Trustee Elliott: on ferries,

[0:07:28] Voice 14: which is a BC Ferries interpretation

[0:07:30] Voice 14: of Transport Canada regulations.

[0:07:34] Voice 14: And several good suggestions have been made

[0:07:37] Voice 14: from former members,

[0:07:39] Voice 14: from General Transportation Society,

[0:07:41] Voice 14: and from the public as to how to solve this situation.

[0:07:46] Voice 14: It just doesn't fit well with BC Ferries' new goal

[0:07:49] Voice 14: of electrification of ferries and terminals,

[0:07:51] Voice 14: and it

[0:07:52] Voice 14: does not serve the public very well.

[0:07:54] Voice 14: So our next issue was drivers to doctors needing priority loading on the Gabriola.

[0:08:00] Voice 14: Possible solution was suggested by, it was great, we had Derek Kilbourne there from Gabriola Sounder,

[0:08:05] Voice 14: and he also works for BC Ambulance, and I think it was him who originally came up with the idea

[0:08:11] Voice 14: of a limited number of passes for the drivers to doctors to use where most urgently needed.

[0:08:17] Voice 14: it. Third issue was the dissolution of the ferry advisory committees and why this is not serving

[0:08:25] Voice 14: coastal communities well even though we have tried the new ways of communicating with BC Ferries

[0:08:31] Voice 14: all of us on the prior FAC committee have tried communicating with BC Ferries but it's just one

[0:08:40] Voice 14: way and there's no way for BC Ferries to be accountable to our most

[0:08:45] Trustee Elliott: urgent concerns.

[0:08:47] Trustee Elliott: So we talked about that. MLA Malcolmson will be talking to CAO

[0:08:54] Voice 14: Jimenez about how useful the facts

[0:08:57] Voice 14: really were for most of our communities. The fourth issue was safety issues at Descanso Bay

[0:09:03] Voice 14: Terminal. Just the basic safety requirements like a crosswalk, directional signs for pedestrians and

[0:09:11] Voice 14: and drivers so they aren't crossing like this as they can get off the ferry um and um that was it

[0:09:20] Voice 14: we we tried to limit ourselves to the most urgent things that we thought emily malcolm said to deal

[0:09:25] Voice 14: with july 29th um trust council had a special meeting uh working towards first reading for the

[0:09:34] Voice 14: draft trust policy statement this has been about seven years in the making it was admirably chaired

[0:09:42] Voice 14: by trustee elliot here and we did get to first reading and we covered several like what i thought

[0:09:48] Voice 14: were really good amendments so next steps referrals to first nations and all of the agencies i think

[0:09:54] Voice 14: there are 115 in total and requests for public comment there will be lots of ways for the public

[0:10:01] Voice 14: comment on the first reading of this what is still a draft trust policy statement

[0:10:08] Voice 14: july 30th that was yesterday trust programs committee meeting um i was excited about our

[0:10:16] Voice 14: discussions of the stewardship education program webinars which are wonderful educational webinars

[0:10:22] Voice 14: available for everyone to watch and i think we're all happy on the committee with the five

[0:10:28] Voice 14: programs that will be presented over the next few months, the Hauyatai

[0:10:32] Voice 14: archaeological project, the shoreline protection, species at risk, rain gardens

[0:10:39] Voice 14: and other nature-based solutions for climate change, and a fellow deer

[0:10:43] Voice 14: strategy for the southern Gulf Islands. We also discussed Trust Programme

[0:10:48] Voice 14: Committee needs for the 26-27 budget. The most significant, which is also pretty

[0:10:54] Voice 14: exciting being funding ongoing funding over several years for good mapping and good indicators

[0:11:03] Voice 14: of ecosystem health to improve GIS and mapping resources it'll be a joint trust program committee

[0:11:11] Voice 14: and regional program committee multi-year project and will also contribute to the trust policy

[0:11:17] Voice 14: statement. I'm excited to say too, and I know Trustee Elliott and Trustee

[0:11:23] Voice 14: Patrick, and know Dr. Tara Martinsworth quite well, and so do I, and I'm so

[0:11:28] Voice 14: excited that we will be working with her Conservation Decisions Lab, where

[0:11:33] Voice 14: ecological data leads to solid, science-based, climate solution oriented

[0:11:37] Voice 14: planning and decision making. And

[0:11:40] Trustee Elliott: that gets us to today. Thank you. Thank you very much, Trustee Elliott.

[0:11:47] Trustee Elliott: okay um i'll just go maybe into some not so much how many meetings but uh some policy statement

[0:11:58] Trustee Elliott: work thank you for covering that off it was indeed a fabulous meeting um and our chair will probably

[0:12:04] Trustee Elliott: emphasize the point but first reading just means we have a draft present to the public so trust

[0:12:11] Trustee Elliott: Council has enough consensus on awarding we all differ on different policies for instance but

[0:12:20] Trustee Elliott: in order to get more feedback and advance a project it needs to go out to the public so

[0:12:26] Trustee Elliott: we need that draft and that's what first committee meant so sort of the beginning of the process

[0:12:30] Trustee Elliott: actually so regional planning committee met July 18th we advanced the by-law review project

[0:12:41] Trustee Elliott: there's two pieces that are going to council. So the Ombudsperson's office gave us their comments and guidance back in May, June, maybe May, I can't remember.

[0:12:55] Trustee Elliott: And then we worked that back into any of the amendments into the new draft policy 5.5.1, as well as the bylaw compliance and enforcement best practices manual.

[0:13:05] Trustee Elliott: So this is the last chance for RPC to look at it and make sure that we could endorse it, and so that advanced to Trust Council.

[0:13:14] Trustee Elliott: So that'll be looked at in September, hopefully, Nick, for review and comment.

[0:13:19] Trustee Elliott: In September we'll be here, right?

[0:13:21] Trustee Elliott: That's right. Trust Council will be on your roll.

[0:13:25] Trustee Elliott: And we also got a preview of the Islands Trust Freshwater Atlas.

[0:13:30] Trustee Elliott: This is a really key product.

[0:13:32] Trustee Elliott: So, the Freshwater Sustainability Strategy was started in 2021.

[0:13:36] Trustee Elliott: If you go to our website, there's a raft of information of what this strategy entails,

[0:13:44] Trustee Elliott: and there's multiple projects, one of which is working out here on Gabriola, which I won't

[0:13:50] Trustee Elliott: get into, but the Freshwater Balance Methodology Development is part of our OCP review.

[0:13:55] Trustee Elliott: But the Freshwater Atlas is going to be a public-facing atlas.

[0:14:00] Trustee Elliott: Many local governments are developing these to consolidate, clean, manage, and deliver spatial freshwater data through a centralized and accessible platform for planners, trustees, applicants, and researchers in the public.

[0:14:15] Trustee Elliott: So we got quite a good overview of that.

[0:14:18] Trustee Elliott: I encourage folks that are interested in freshwater, the freshwater strategy to go have a look at that because we got a preview of what the Atlas might look like.

[0:14:28] Trustee Elliott: It still has to go through lots of testing and working with staff on the accuracy, clarity, and alignment with organization priorities.

[0:14:37] Trustee Elliott: So that's going to be really useful, but it's a long-term project, and it's been a long time coming.

[0:14:45] Trustee Elliott: So on that growth management planning framework, we were seeing some really good synergy, I'd say, coming from our strategic plan,

[0:14:56] Trustee Elliott: which was just adopted in march 2025 um really about understanding um

[0:15:02] Trustee Elliott: the growth capacity indicators not only for planning where where do we put

[0:15:10] Trustee Elliott: you know houses and so on but for monitoring right what are the impacts of our decisions

[0:15:18] Trustee Elliott: in our land use planning on the ecosystem on fresh water um uh supplies and so on so

[0:15:25] Trustee Elliott: So that's coming through, as you said, our PC and Trust Programs Committee, which has

[0:15:30] Trustee Elliott: a whole raft of initiatives directed by our strategic plan, but also the conservancy.

[0:15:37] Trustee Elliott: Mapping is a huge key component.

[0:15:40] Trustee Elliott: We've got many, many years of data, but how data is then cleaned up and used and made

[0:15:48] Trustee Elliott: um well useful for all these different uh projects is is quite a comprehensive undertaking so

[0:15:55] Trustee Elliott: trust programs committee directed um a initiative to basically fund for 150 000 the draft like the

[0:16:06] Trustee Elliott: development of the plan which would be a multi-year joint trust programs committee and regional

[0:16:12] Trustee Elliott: planning committee project um and so yeah there's there's a lot of really cool work that's going to

[0:16:19] Trustee Elliott: enable us to see trends and indicators of ecosystem health and ensure that there is long-term support

[0:16:27] Trustee Elliott: for mapping because you can get all the mapping you want but if it's not funded in the next year

[0:16:33] Trustee Elliott: to make it useful then it's it's essentially useless anyway the conservancy board meeting is

[0:16:38] Trustee Elliott: is also really keenly needing mapping resources.

[0:16:46] Trustee Elliott: So in a joint meeting with the executive committee,

[0:16:50] Trustee Elliott: we're actually supposed to be,

[0:16:53] Trustee Elliott: there was a presentation by Cowichan Tribes.

[0:16:58] Trustee Elliott: I don't know her name, but Stephanie Atleo.

[0:17:02] Trustee Elliott: What is her title?

[0:17:04] Trustee Elliott: Cowichan Tribes.

[0:17:06] Trustee Elliott: She was supposed to give a presentation

[0:17:07] Trustee Elliott: on um approaches to co-governance um but because of circumstances couldn't attend so we ended up

[0:17:14] Trustee Elliott: having a one-hour discussion on what are we going to talk about we're here today um but the mapping

[0:17:19] Trustee Elliott: needs of islands trust and so islands trust conservancy advanced a request to trust council

[0:17:24] Trustee Elliott: please fund mapping work and gis support anyway and then you mentioned all the trust programs

[0:17:32] Trustee Elliott: committee stuff so gosh what else oh just a small update mana canoe my goodness travel journeys

[0:17:40] Trustee Elliott: uh they are landing and i believe they're four days of protocol gathering is starts today

[0:17:47] Trustee Elliott: so um the fundraiser that we did on gabriela which was wonderful it was so full of good feelings and

[0:17:55] Trustee Elliott: and dancing the friendship dance with the Manukunu family and ate beautiful salmon on the

[0:18:03] Trustee Elliott: on the ground and and we raised over four thousand dollars to support Manukunu going on travel

[0:18:09] Trustee Elliott: journeys so they're very very grateful and this is a real lovely partnership and community to

[0:18:17] Trustee Elliott: community relationship building so I was very very happy with how that turned out and always brings

[0:18:23] Trustee Elliott: is joining my heart so

[0:18:24] Voice 14: yeah it reminds me of how the waterways in the sailor's sea that's their

[0:18:30] Voice 14: road

[0:18:30] Trustee Elliott: that's been their boat for thousands of years we have to think about that oh cool to

[0:18:36] Trustee Elliott: see the photos of like the youth paddling and elders and like there's stories of you know 70

[0:18:42] Trustee Elliott: 80 year old elders that are you know they're paddling six miles to go to

[0:18:47] Trustee Elliott: the next community

[0:18:47] Trustee Elliott: and then there's landing and there's food and protocol so it's hundreds of canoes gather and

[0:18:53] Trustee Elliott: they do five days of protocol so anyway it's just a lovely incredible uh resurgence of tradition

[0:19:01] Trustee Elliott: that's it for me oh my goodness these guys get stars for reporting the best to the public

[0:19:09] Trustee Elliott: even if your eyes are like rolling with all this that's all right you've been informed

[0:19:15] Voice 1: I'll give you my report I think the policy statement is the draft policy statement is

[0:19:21] Voice 1: most important for you to be aware of I was very grateful for Trustee Elliott to step up and chair

[0:19:27] Voice 1: the special meeting we had I had flown back from back east that morning not a good time to chair

[0:19:34] Voice 1: a meeting when you're on the wrong time zone and been up since 2 a.m so I was so grateful

[0:19:40] Voice 12: she was

[0:19:41] Voice 1: she was able to chair the meeting i'm uh so what's really important is i really ask you to

[0:19:48] Voice 1: read the document uh a clean version of it is going to be released in the next few days on our

[0:19:56] Voice 1: website we only made some very minor changes i encourage you to read the clean version i mean

[0:20:00] Voice 1: if you really want there's red lines there's all of those things those are hard to read

[0:20:04] Voice 1: read the clean version and really read it with your you know your heart please read it there's

[0:20:11] Voice 1: a lot of people out there saying you know we're changing the mandate we're doing this we're doing

[0:20:14] Voice 1: that i encourage you to read the document and come to your own conclusions as to this

[0:20:19] Voice 1: trust council

[0:20:20] Trustee Elliott: um chair patrick it might be helpful to know that there will be paper versions at the

[0:20:26] Trustee Elliott: gabriel of the

[0:20:27] Voice 1: of the search oh and the document okay yeah there will be a survey there will be a

[0:20:32] Voice 1: lot of things coming in the in the next bit and there will be uh some events here on the island

[0:20:38] Voice 1: as well and we'll have those dates for you as they're as they're they're known so over the

[0:20:42] Voice 1: next six months this is not something you have to do today take your time spend some time in

[0:20:47] Voice 1: the document and we really want to understand your questions if you've got thoughts because

[0:20:53] Voice 1: that's you know take the time think about it make suggestions recommendations we want to get this

[0:20:59] Voice 1: right um we have we have a new minister as you know the islands trust is a it's a provincial

[0:21:06] Voice 1: agency uh we had minister kalen uh rami kalen now we have minister christine boyle uh so we

[0:21:13] Voice 1: but we were scheduled to meet with rami kalen the day of the press announcement changed so

[0:21:20] Voice 1: needless to say our meeting was cancelled because we did not need to meet with the minister of jobs

[0:21:26] Voice 1: So we have already sent a letter of introductions off to Minister Boyle, we anticipate she's very busy.

[0:21:37] Voice 1: Responsibilities and we hope to talk to her this fall. And I think she's got a good history and understands our island. So I think she's got a good minister and look forward to our relationship.

[0:21:47] Voice 1: So you're right, Trust Council is here on Gabriela, September 16 to 18.

[0:21:52] Voice 1: 18th. The public part is usually on the 16th. If you really have nothing to do and you want

[0:21:58] Voice 1: to watch our meetings for three days, you're always welcome. But there will be a public

[0:22:04] Voice 1: comment period usually on the first day. The times won't be known. If you want to make

[0:22:12] Voice 1: a delegation, if you feel that you want to have a delegation, that has to be submitted

[0:22:19] Voice 1: in three weeks in advance um so that's roughly the 26th of august doing my math but um you know

[0:22:26] Voice 1: always the earlier the better so if you're interested there's information on our website

[0:22:30] Voice 1: that's to help submit a delegation um and with that i am honored to introduce our our next uh

[0:22:38] Voice 1: report uh vanessa craig your

[0:22:40] Trustee Elliott: uh electoral area director and a chair yes the regional

[0:22:44] Voice 1: district

[0:22:44] Trustee Elliott: apologies for being late but i was cheering um i don't know if you've heard there's

[0:22:48] Trustee Elliott: a large fire that's erupted and can't

[0:22:50] Trustee Elliott: relate. So we're activating an emergency fire. Rachel said

[0:22:54] Trustee Elliott: that we're going to have to do some signing of things, which is a good reminder to make sure

[0:22:58] Trustee Elliott: you're signed up for the way to alert, which is the RDN's emergency alert system. You can choose

[0:23:04] Trustee Elliott: to get alerts via phone, email, text, whatever works for you. Even if you don't have a cell phone,

[0:23:10] Trustee Elliott: you can get stuff on your landline. In an emergency, evacuation orders, evacuation alerts,

[0:23:15] Trustee Elliott: information will be coming out through the RDN, so please make sure you're signed up.

[0:23:22] Trustee Elliott: I'm sorry I missed the beginning, but the Tiny Home Clinic at UBCM, that Toby's been

[0:23:28] Trustee Elliott: really leading the Tiny Home Working Group, has been accepted to be a clinic at UBCM,

[0:23:33] Trustee Elliott: so we get to share this exciting Islands Trust project with local governments across the province.

[0:23:40] Trustee Elliott: So that's pretty exciting that we were accepted.

[0:23:43] Trustee Elliott: There was over 100 applications apparently for clinics and there was only six spots available.

[0:23:49] Trustee Elliott: So we were selected.

[0:23:51] Trustee Elliott: And I think a lot of it is due to Toby and the working group and

[0:23:58] Voice 13: the work that they've done.

[0:23:59] Voice 13: Plus gathering the group that we put together

[0:24:02] Trustee Elliott: for the clinic also includes electives from around the province.

[0:24:05] Trustee Elliott: So I think that's a big bonus.

[0:24:07] Trustee Elliott: yes well and your

[0:24:08] Trustee Elliott: staff are quite keen on yes yeah the um one of the benefits was our rdn staff

[0:24:13] Trustee Elliott: in building and bylaw enforcement were able to participate which is really helpful because

[0:24:19] Trustee Elliott: you had the tiny home builders and you had building and bylaw enforcement kind of in the

[0:24:23] Trustee Elliott: same room and as it turns out um in many ways were closer to than was realized because um the

[0:24:32] Trustee Elliott: tiny home industry is already building to actually a pretty high standard and so just

[0:24:36] Trustee Elliott: with a few tweaks they can actually need building code um and so it seems and issued permits that

[0:24:42] Trustee Elliott: was the whole thing yes the flock was could they ever issue permits for something on wheels and so

[0:24:48] Trustee Elliott: yeah that's

[0:24:48] Trustee Elliott: that and and the and and fastening it to the ground apparently isn't as big a deal

[0:24:54] Trustee Elliott: as it was so um yeah i just got to get everybody in one place so uh kudos to the islands trust for

[0:25:00] Trustee Elliott: for starting this project.

[0:25:03] Trustee Elliott: Wanted to let people know about the

[0:25:05] Trustee Elliott: Descanso Bay emergency wharf gangway replacement.

[0:25:08] Trustee Elliott: So it's reaching end of life.

[0:25:11] Trustee Elliott: It's been damaged a few times.

[0:25:13] Trustee Elliott: So we're getting a brand new one,

[0:25:14] Trustee Elliott: which will better serve emergency evacuations.

[0:25:17] Trustee Elliott: It's gonna be wider.

[0:25:19] Trustee Elliott: It's gonna have all these good things.

[0:25:20] Trustee Elliott: It's been delayed in procurement.

[0:25:23] Trustee Elliott: So it won't be happening to this fall.

[0:25:25] Trustee Elliott: Of course, then there's the issue of BC Ferries

[0:25:27] Trustee Elliott: is doing the terminal issue because while that's happening the emergency ward will be out of

[0:25:34] Trustee Elliott: service both for water taxis as well as emergency evacuations so all of the coordination with

[0:25:40] Trustee Elliott: with DC Ferries in addition to we always coordinate with emergency personnel because

[0:25:45] Trustee Elliott: they usually have to use for emergency evacuations advice. Exciting steps in the

[0:25:52] Trustee Elliott: Descanso Bay Regional Park accessible beach access feasibility study so this

[0:25:56] Trustee Elliott: was a project that was started when GALT came and presented to the board and as we

[0:26:02] Trustee Elliott: know on Gabriel there's limited accessible beaches and so GALT pitched

[0:26:08] Trustee Elliott: the idea of maybe developing an accessible ramp and movie mat situation

[0:26:13] Trustee Elliott: at Descanso Bay so the feasibility study has been completed it's going to be very

[0:26:19] Trustee Elliott: challenging it's a tidal area but it looks like it is possible so we're moving to the next step

[0:26:27] Trustee Elliott: which is to take a closer look at design possibilities which will actually require

[0:26:33] Trustee Elliott: a lot of different permits because you're working in the tidal zone so working with DFO

[0:26:36] Trustee Elliott: Islands Trust because it'll for things like gangways and things there's maximum width and an

[0:26:43] Trustee Elliott: an accessible pathway and gangway has to be wider than the than the allowable so it'll it's still a

[0:26:49] Trustee Elliott: long ways to go but uh the board right before our break uh approved moving forward to the next step

[0:26:56] Trustee Elliott: parks and recreation master plan um trustee yates has been involved in this which i really

[0:27:01] Trustee Elliott: appreciate and um we've received the draft master plan for the advisory committee and the posac

[0:27:07] Trustee Elliott: and so it's going to be coming to the fort in the fall regional affordable housing strategy this was

[0:27:13] Trustee Elliott: kind of for me personally it was it was disappointing because we had some reports

[0:27:19] Trustee Elliott: looking at housing affordability options which could range from just creating a framework to

[0:27:26] Trustee Elliott: how we could look at things to developing partnerships and and a lot of the discussion

[0:27:31] Trustee Elliott: was is that the municipalities are already doing this work and so it would be a duplication of the

[0:27:37] Voice 14: work that all the municipalities are already doing. So the board didn't support looking for it.

[0:27:42] Voice 14: And thank

[0:27:46] Voice 8: you again for allowing me to ask a

[0:27:49] Trustee Elliott: question about the Discanso Bay

[0:27:54] Trustee Elliott: Accessibility Project. You know, at what stage is the network to be engaged in?

[0:28:02] Trustee Elliott: The first part is just the feasibility, looking at it, whether or not it's even

[0:28:07] Trustee Elliott: possibly doable and so it would it could be part of the the next phase would be

[0:28:15] Trustee Elliott: engagement so it

[0:28:18] Voice 8: hasn't started yet thanks all right

[0:28:23] Voice 3: um next on the general's first nations

[0:28:26] Voice 3: reports do you have any i guess that's what i couldn't um

[0:28:31] Trustee Elliott: i did have a meeting with

[0:28:38] Trustee Elliott: Councillor Aaron and Thomas, but specifically on Stiles, there's really nothing to report.

[0:28:45] Trustee Elliott: I think we can say congratulations.

[0:28:54] Trustee Elliott: Nanaimoq has secured another return of land of, I think, 7,000 acres on Mount Vincennes.

[0:29:01] Trustee Elliott: So I think this is pretty fair.

[0:29:03] Trustee Elliott: their agreements with the province and with the feds.

[0:29:08] Trustee Elliott: Can you see that?

[0:29:10] Trustee Elliott: Sorry.

[0:29:12] Trustee Elliott: Thank you.

[0:29:13] Trustee Elliott: The dynamic first nation is,

[0:29:18] Trustee Elliott: announced that about 7,000 acres have been returned to them

[0:29:22] Trustee Elliott: in the Mount Benson area.

[0:29:24] Trustee Elliott: And I believe this is part of,

[0:29:27] Trustee Elliott: on the basis of their Sarlaccan Treaty of 1854,

[0:29:30] Trustee Elliott: four uh agreement with the uh province and the fed and federal government um on return of land so

[0:29:39] Trustee Elliott: it's uh just wanted to congratulate the nation on moving forward in their um and their rights and

[0:29:48] Trustee Elliott: title. This

[0:29:54] Voice 1: is your opportunity to speak to us this morning.

[0:30:00] Voice 1: If you're, we have one application later in the agenda, if you're the applicant, you'll

[0:30:03] Voice 1: have a chance to speak at that time.

[0:30:06] Voice 1: But if you wish to talk about it, if you have comments you're making on the application,

[0:30:10] Voice 1: this is your time to speak.

[0:30:11] Voice 1: We don't have public comments during the application.

[0:30:14] Voice 1: So this is it.

[0:30:16] Voice 1: We want to hear your questions and comments later in the agenda.

[0:30:19] Voice 1: We'll be making, discussing various topics and making decisions.

[0:30:23] Voice 1: Your questions and comments are valued and help us make good decisions.

[0:30:28] Voice 1: When addressing the Local Trust Committee, we always ask that you direct comments to the three of us, not to staff or other audience members.

[0:30:35] Voice 1: We want to ask that you speak of

[0:30:37] Trustee Elliott: issues, not individuals, and be clear and concise and respectful, as I know you will be.

[0:30:44] Trustee Elliott: I am not going to, I don't keep timers, but if you are repeating yourself,

[0:30:48] Voice 1: I may ask you to wrap up and if that's all right.

[0:30:53] Voice 1: All right. How many of you wish to address us today?

[0:30:57] Voice 1: A few of you? All right. Well, I will start in the back row.

[0:31:03] Voice 1: You can stand up where you are if you can. Project your voice as best you can.

[0:31:08] Voice 1: The reporter

[0:31:09] Trustee Elliott: or the microphone is right here.

[0:31:12] Trustee Elliott: My name is Catherine Elton and I live at the end of Herne, next to the Brickhill Beach.

[0:31:19] Trustee Elliott: And in the last 18 months, I'm becoming very concerned about the number of people who are

[0:31:33] Trustee Elliott: harvesting on Brickyard Beach.

[0:31:38] Trustee Elliott: I've personally seen people taking more than their share, but my greatest concern is the

[0:31:46] Trustee Elliott: number of people walking over the intertidal zone and the possible damage that's been done to it

[0:31:52] Trustee Elliott: and I just feel that it's unsustainable in the long term. There's a history of harvesting of

[0:31:59] Trustee Elliott: shellfish along Gabriela going back decades and I have stories from four people I know who've lived

[0:32:07] Trustee Elliott: here since the 1980s who've said that the beach has been designated by over harvesting and here

[0:32:15] Trustee Elliott: we are again, 2025, facing the same situation. I feel that we need protected by beaches and

[0:32:25] Trustee Elliott: possibly limiting how people can harvest or not allow harvesting. I contacted the DFO

[0:32:33] Trustee Elliott: seven

[0:32:34] Voice 15: times and they told me there will be a survey

[0:32:38] Trustee Elliott: in August 2025, the next month, counting

[0:32:43] Trustee Elliott: the number of clams and oysters and I'm asking the Island Trust to ask for the results and

[0:32:51] Voice 14: scientific conclusions of this survey compared to 2023 and previous years and what action

[0:32:58] Voice 14: needs to be taken,

[0:32:59] Trustee Elliott: if any, and the results of this survey to be made public. I also would

[0:33:09] Trustee Elliott: like the Islands Trust to write to the DFO about ongoing environmental concerns with the

[0:33:16] Trustee Elliott: number of people using the low tide shore for personal shellfish harvesting. As a citizen here

[0:33:26] Trustee Elliott: I feel very confused about the process of what we can do to protect the shoreline. I feel there's

[0:33:36] Trustee Elliott: different individual groups, there's the DFO, there's the Alliance Trust, everybody's kind of

[0:33:42] Trustee Elliott: has different areas of empowerment and at this point I just don't really know

[0:33:52] Trustee Elliott: what to do,

[0:33:53] Voice 3: but

[0:33:54] Trustee Elliott: I feel I just need to put my hand up and raise my hand, so thank you.

[0:33:59] Voice 11: Thank

[0:34:00] Trustee Elliott: you very much. And

[0:34:02] Voice 10: I think, yes, go ahead.

[0:34:04] Voice 10: Thank you. My name is Arden Kruber. My traditional name is Conchatsia. I'm from Tsau, just outside of Victoria.

[0:34:13] Voice 10: And my mother was from Sminnigal, so I do love this territory as well.

[0:34:20] Voice 10: My concern is about the ongoing issue of the petroglyphs and the protection of sacred sites here on Gabriela Island.

[0:34:29] Voice 10: a bit of history when i first came here um early on in the um early 2000s um the first meeting i

[0:34:38] Voice 10: ever went to that was a public meeting was a meeting of the rate payers association

[0:34:44] Voice 10: at um the aggie hall and sunemo attended um that meeting as they were starting the treaty process

[0:34:52] Voice 10: were treated poorly. I can say flatly that the treatment, the verbal abuse was racist.

[0:35:03] Voice 10: I was sitting with my sister, who worked for Smenevo at that time, and people were talking

[0:35:09] Voice 10: about how if we let the Indians come here, they'll burn fires, or, you know, it'll be

[0:35:23] Voice 10: admit to it, but they also had a big concern about Indians being on the island would devalue their

[0:35:30] Voice 10: property. Now I would like to believe, and there's certainly evidence in the past couple of years,

[0:35:36] Voice 10: that our residents here in Gabriola have shifted significantly from that perspective, or many

[0:35:42] Voice 10: people have shifted significantly and are becoming much more vocal and supportive of

[0:35:47] Voice 10: and animal presence here. My concern about the petroglyphs and the sacred sites is I want to

[0:35:55] Voice 10: know whether or not the evolution of those attitudes is reflected in the island crest's

[0:36:03] Voice 10: protection of the sacred sites, the petroglyphs, of our culture here on this island. And the reason

[0:36:14] Voice 10: And the reason is, what I see in public is support, enthusiasm, and honouring of Sunaymul

[0:36:25] Voice 10: present, but there are still pockets of resistance to the evolution of attitudes in those 25

[0:36:34] Voice 10: years that I've been here.

[0:36:36] Voice 10: And so I want to know what the Islands Trust is doing, and I see this with the greatest

[0:36:41] Voice 10: of respect but what are you doing to reflect that evolution of attitudes um the spirit of gabriela

[0:36:49] Voice 10: is not entrenched in in the racist attitudes of 25 years ago and but perhaps you know i'm not an

[0:36:57] Voice 10: expert in these things but perhaps your empowering legislature is and i want to know what you're

[0:37:03] Voice 10: doing to reflect current day values as opposed to um relying on those archaic um words that

[0:37:13] Voice 10: we're solving at that tool break payers um meeting um those many years ago so that's my concern and

[0:37:22] Voice 10: um you guys are the elected officials what are you doing to make sure the evolution

[0:37:30] Voice 10: I

[0:37:32] Voice 12: mean, I'd like to thank you, and I do acknowledge the racism, the challenges

[0:37:42] Trustee Elliott: in many of what's

[0:37:45] Trustee Elliott: still current regulations addressing us or even limiting us.

[0:37:54] Voice 12: the policy statement this draft policy statement that's that will be out um

[0:38:02] Voice 1: goes a very long way the current one that we are under right now is offensive of even what's

[0:38:10] Voice 1: written in it it's absent of acknowledging our obligations um and even what's in there like i

[0:38:19] Voice 1: it is offensive this document has moved dramatically and um and i think it reflects

[0:38:27] Voice 1: and i think this trust council and this body here to know the work that needs to be done

[0:38:35] Voice 1: and the mistakes of the past and

[0:38:37] Voice 12: i think the work that you're doing with the ocp project here on

[0:38:43] Voice 12: Gabriela has moved again a very long way. So I think the commitments

[0:38:55] Voice 1: are here. The work's still

[0:38:57] Voice 1: yet to be done to really get everything to a state that we can be proud of today.

[0:39:06] Voice 1: but we do what we are we do play a role in helping educate we can't stamp out race racism

[0:39:17] Voice 1: but we can do our best to set an example of how we should be performing and to call out

[0:39:25] Voice 1: our regulations our legislation the things that are limiting us from being able to do what we know

[0:39:34] Voice 1: know, is right. We are sometimes struggled when we have we know morally and ethically

[0:39:38] Voice 1: that we need to be doing something more than what we're allowed to do. And we'll be struggling

[0:39:43] Voice 1: with those discussions shortly today. And I'm looking forward to a far better working

[0:39:53] Voice 1: relationship

[0:39:53] Voice 12: going forward.

[0:39:58] Voice 10: Thank you. With the greatest of respect, I want to respond to your comments. And I understand

[0:40:03] Voice 10: I understand that there are strictures of normal operational procedures, and I understand

[0:40:11] Voice 10: that policy may open up some of the issues that I have brought forward.

[0:40:17] Voice 10: But I guess my question remains, what are the boots on the ground doing right now?

[0:40:22] Voice 10: And you can't imagine the number of times one hears of a promised better future, but

[0:40:30] Voice 10: But I

[0:40:30] Voice 10: want to emphasize that right here and right now is what's important because nobody knows what's going to happen tomorrow.

[0:40:37] Voice 10: But right here and right now is important.

[0:40:40] Voice 10: And I don't want you to lose sight of the fact that good intentions haven't been found in history.

[0:40:49] Voice 1: Well, thank

[0:40:49] Trustee Elliott: you for that reminder.

[0:40:50] Trustee Elliott: And I think we'll all take that to heart.

[0:40:53] Trustee Elliott: Can I respond?

[0:40:54] Trustee Elliott: So specifically here in our local context,

[0:40:58] Trustee Elliott: In our local context, we, through our OCP, have a lot of power as a community in how we set our values in policy that will translate into regulations.

[0:41:16] Trustee Elliott: And specifically, the work that our staff are doing, engaging with SNEMUK on the question of heritage protection on Gabriela Island and Munch, the Farsi,

[0:41:32] Trustee Elliott: what are the tools that we already have,

[0:41:38] Trustee Elliott: heritage conservation areas, development permit areas,

[0:41:43] Trustee Elliott: the actual regulatory tools that can protect

[0:41:48] Trustee Elliott: Snuneymux cultural heritage sites.

[0:41:52] Trustee Elliott: So that piece has to be done in partnership with Snuneymux

[0:41:56] Trustee Elliott: and that work is happening on a staff to staff level.

[0:42:00] Trustee Elliott: um i think speaking as a community member i've heard a lot from my own community of the importance

[0:42:10] Trustee Elliott: of that work and that it can't be aspirational but it really needs to be

[0:42:17] Trustee Elliott: as you said it actually enforceable and there is this ongoing issue of the protection of sacred

[0:42:29] Trustee Elliott: sacred sites on Gabriela Island that we look at from 20 years ago that bylaws were put into place.

[0:42:37] Trustee Elliott: Now we have the opportunity to ask the question, are our values still the same as they were in

[0:42:45] Trustee Elliott: 20 years ago? What has changed? What do we want to preserve and protect? My question,

[0:42:54] Trustee Elliott: And this is going to be, it's tricky, but is it possible for our LTC to defer decision-making in certain circumstances where the protection of sacred sites is of such preeminent importance to the nation that we defer to their guidance legally?

[0:43:20] Trustee Elliott: legally that would be very tricky to enforce but if we're going to talk about co-governance

[0:43:24] Trustee Elliott: and working together in a good way my vision would be that we work with snanemo and all first

[0:43:32] Trustee Elliott: nations in the trust area to establish a vision for how do we preserve and protect and what areas

[0:43:39] Trustee Elliott: Are we going to listen and refer to the

[0:43:51] Voice 8: body

[0:43:55] Trustee Elliott: that has the most or the highest interest in seeing those values preserved and protected?

[0:44:04] Trustee Elliott: The Islands Trust has had an emphasis on ecosystem and environmental protection since its inception.

[0:44:10] Trustee Elliott: now we need to look at how do we take guidance and direction from first nations

[0:44:15] Trustee Elliott: for protection of cultural heritage and sacred sites and that is a conversation i very much

[0:44:22] Trustee Elliott: looking forward to having it can be legacy making and i think we can do it right

[0:44:29] Trustee Elliott: and just and just to add to your comments

[0:44:33] Voice 14: trustee elliot um it's not just a change of values over

[0:44:37] Voice 14: the past 20 years is actually looking back at what happened in 2005 and saying well did we

[0:44:44] Voice 14: keep those promises that we put in writing were they discharged appropriately

[0:44:51] Trustee Elliott: we'll be speaking

[0:44:55] Trustee Elliott: to that later today thank

[0:44:56] Voice 12: you all

[0:44:58] Voice 1: right um we we're not having a conversation we'll be going

[0:45:01] Voice 1: to next speakers so this is a um so uh who would like to address us next go ahead thank

[0:45:09] Trustee Elliott: you my name

[0:45:11] Trustee Elliott: is sybil frey and i'm speaking to you as an individual gabriela resident on the traditional

[0:45:16] Trustee Elliott: and unseated territory of the same name of people who have lived here since time immemorial i'm

[0:45:24] Trustee Elliott: strongly encouraging urging all three of you chair

[0:45:28] Voice 13: patrick and trustees elliot and yates to vote

[0:45:31] Voice 13: against center stage holdings development permit application. Promoting

[0:45:38] Voice 13: regulations and processes and Gabriela's own

[0:45:41] Trustee Elliott: very outdated official community

[0:45:43] Trustee Elliott: plan and land use bylaws do not live up to our obligations under this article as

[0:45:51] Trustee Elliott: the neighborhood treats the community. Nor does a provenance development permit

[0:45:57] Trustee Elliott: an application on our commitments to reconciliation and free fire and informed consent under BC's

[0:46:08] Trustee Elliott: Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples. I acknowledge that Centre Stage Holdings has spent

[0:46:15] Trustee Elliott: considerable time and money making this application and considerable time has been spent by the Island

[0:46:22] Trustee Elliott: planners. However, indicating that, and I quote, tree removal within any archaeological

[0:46:30] Voice 14: sites

[0:46:31] Voice 14: may be subject to an alteration permit, end quote. And another quote, no tree removal

[0:46:39] Trustee Elliott: is intended to

[0:46:41] Trustee Elliott: occur within the boundaries of the archaeological sites are pretty weak protections for an area that

[0:46:49] Trustee Elliott: that is of significant cultural and spiritual importance

[0:46:53] Trustee Elliott: just in the name of people.

[0:46:56] Trustee Elliott: Unless you know that a formal agreement

[0:46:59] Trustee Elliott: has been negotiated between us in the name of First Nation

[0:47:02] Trustee Elliott: and Center Stage Holdings regarding cutting 1,900 trees,

[0:47:08] Trustee Elliott: which is a huge number of definite concern anyway,

[0:47:13] Trustee Elliott: unless you know that there is an agreement

[0:47:16] Trustee Elliott: meant to cut those trees and subsequent subdivision, I urge you to turn down this development grant

[0:47:24] Trustee Elliott: application. We really need to do

[0:47:27] Voice 3: this for the children and generations to come. Thank you.

[0:47:32] Voice 11: Good luck to you next. Anyone else want to address us?

[0:47:38] Voice 11: Hey,

[0:47:39] Voice 5: I'm Don McCallum, and I represent the Mid-Island Community Association.

[0:47:43] Voice 5: And all I'd like to do is just give you a little preview, and you're going to review

[0:47:49] Voice 5: our email we sent you of our survey results, and really just like to say we had an extraordinary

[0:48:00] Voice 5: response to our survey.

[0:48:02] Voice 5: We had an amazing amount of agreement among the community members.

[0:48:08] Voice 5: So, for the local trust committee, for planning, let's not miss this opportunity where we have

[0:48:20] Voice 5: significant engagement from the community.

[0:48:23] Voice 5: We have a moment in time when we can fix the bylaws and get it right.

[0:48:29] Voice 5: So we're hoping that you'll look at the survey seriously and we can have a really meaningful

[0:48:37] Voice 5: full discussion about amendment over the course of next year thank

[0:48:43] Voice 12: you the background yes

[0:48:47] Voice 4: thank you i am similar i'm resident here we're all out of the line here to say that i

[0:48:52] Voice 4: support political trust committee in doing the right thing regarding center stage

[0:48:58] Voice 4: thank you

[0:49:02] Voice 11: anyone else

[0:49:03] Voice 9: please go ahead i'm phyllis three i'm really old

[0:49:12] Voice 9: Susan will testify. I'm not going to talk much. I wanted to relate back to Arden's presentation

[0:49:22] Voice 9: about Nicole. First of all, I'm going to ask her please not to base her opinion of us on

[0:49:35] Voice 9: And then, but the other thing is that when I came in 1937, it was very shortly after

[0:49:42] Voice 9: the, some of the petroglyphs had been unveiled to the public, and we'll talk about it in

[0:49:50] Voice 9: a minute, but it was still available.

[0:49:52] Voice 9: And I was very interested in the business I was a tourist, wanted to have a guide to

[0:50:01] Voice 9: And there were people on the island that responded to our address, and I was honored to be taken

[0:50:11] Voice 9: to some of the sites, not to the caves, the burials, but that person, if he knew where

[0:50:17] Voice 9: they were, said, even though he trusts me, I'd like to tell somebody where they were.

[0:50:24] Voice 9: But we gradually learned. We learned over the years as the museum was built, it became a grassroots.

[0:50:36] Voice 9: We learned things like you don't do rubbings. We learned different ways of being respectful.

[0:50:47] Voice 9: And, um, at the first elucidated stage, you began to work, um, you know, with some of

[0:50:57] Voice 9: the others who were happy.

[0:50:59] Voice 9: So, um, things like jewelry made, earrings made to look like they, you know, that people

[0:51:07] Voice 9: were, were not acceptable.

[0:51:10] Voice 9: And I think most of the people, you know, have been learning, but it's a long process.

[0:51:15] Voice 9: And there also are, as much as I regret it, you are never, ever going to get rid of people

[0:51:21] Voice 9: who are afraid of being able to solicit.

[0:51:24] Voice 9: I just wanted to tell you, we've been working on it for a long time and I encourage you

[0:51:30] Voice 9: to keep on working.

[0:51:32] Voice 4: Thank you.

[0:51:33] Trustee Elliott: Anyone else that wants to address this?

[0:51:35] Trustee Elliott: Yes.

[0:51:37] Voice 4: I'm not trying to sound racist or anything, but the indigenous people want a lot of things

[0:51:44] Voice 4: is done and the biggest foot dragging might involve convincing the taxpayer to pay for all this stuff

[0:51:54] Voice 4: just financial reality i think i also have another issue it's a land use issue i'm like on a road

[0:52:02] Voice 4: uh offense south wilson and you've probably heard about it i sent a note in about it the

[0:52:11] Voice 4: The land use there, a trucking company is using it for...

[0:52:15] Voice 3: What's your name, sir?

[0:52:17] Voice 4: Oh, my name is Mike Dellon. I live up on Hess Road.

[0:52:21] Voice 4: And the fellow owns a property up there.

[0:52:24] Voice 4: He's apparently using it for a tipping site for his construction excavating company.

[0:52:30] Voice 4: And it's been ongoing for years since he's...

[0:52:34] Voice 4: I think he's supposed to be growing produce out there.

[0:52:37] Voice 4: That's his goal.

[0:52:40] Voice 4: Some of the neighbours have complained, you guys must have heard complaints from various

[0:52:46] Voice 4: people up that way.

[0:52:48] Trustee Elliott: Yeah, I can follow up with you after with the response from by-law enforcement about

[0:52:56] Trustee Elliott: whether it's a contravention of the land use by-law and that's, so I apologize, I don't

[0:53:03] Trustee Elliott: have an email from you.

[0:53:04] Trustee Elliott: What's your last name?

[0:53:05] Trustee Elliott: Della Hunt.

[0:53:06] Voice 4: Della Hunt.

[0:53:07] Voice 4: through the item trust office there haven't

[0:53:10] Trustee Elliott: seen one so but i i'll look for that and we'll get back

[0:53:14] Trustee Elliott: to you on the um the status of the enforcement file there yeah

[0:53:20] Voice 4: i just wonder what it would be

[0:53:22] Voice 4: of course somebody's going to build a house they have to have a concrete truck and

[0:53:27] Voice 4: gravel trucks and framing crews come in it's all noisy but it usually ends within a year or two

[0:53:35] Voice 4: This thing's been going on for several years, five or six anyways, and I just wondered if there was

[0:53:43] Voice 4: any authority in the bylaws to either limit the amount of noise a person can make or the amount

[0:53:49] Voice 4: of time they can use every machine.

[0:53:53] Trustee Elliott: Well as for noise nuisance that is an RDN bylaw enforcement

[0:53:59] Trustee Elliott: enforcement issue. My understanding is that if the activity conforms to the zoning, the

[0:54:10] Trustee Elliott: land use bylaw, like what is allowed of the lot, a nuisance, if it's activity that is

[0:54:16] Trustee Elliott: allowed, the nuisance bylaw does not supersede it, or the noise bylaw does not supersede

[0:54:22] Trustee Elliott: So those are, they are two separate issues. The issue of whether the trucking and dumping of soil and woody debris has been, there's been multiple complaints to bylaw enforcement, and it is not actually in contravention of our land use bylaw, because we do not have a soil deposit and removal bylaw.

[0:54:46] Trustee Elliott: so the only thing that would be in contravention is if gabriola soils were tracked off the island

[0:54:53] Trustee Elliott: that is a contravention but actually the movement of soil on the island and for the

[0:54:59] Trustee Elliott: purpose that the owner states is for agricultural use is actually not a contravention

[0:55:05] Voice 4: actually

[0:55:06] Voice 4: looking at it as a soil use issue okay

[0:55:08] Voice 1: i i i think this is talking about a specific property

[0:55:12] Voice 1: So this is really not appropriate in this meeting.

[0:55:15] Voice 1: So I really encourage you to speak with staff on a particular bylaw issue

[0:55:22] Voice 1: because we should not speak about that in a public meeting.

[0:55:25] Voice 4: The only other thing I wanted to add is that it's not a soil issue.

[0:55:28] Voice 4: It's the use of residential property combined with commercial

[0:55:33] Voice 11: activity,

[0:55:37] Voice 4: which isn't supposed to be part of the zone.

[0:55:40] Voice 1: Like I said, I encourage you to speak with staff,

[0:55:41] Voice 1: being neighbors who have usually good information to share with our with our staff on on those

[0:55:47] Voice 1: issues okay anyone else wish to address us go ahead i'd

[0:55:52] Voice 5: like to speak about the only area um

[0:55:55] Voice 5: i'm very concerned about um being considered the first nations sacred grounds there i'm also

[0:56:06] Voice 5: concerned about the rookery for the herons in the air they have nesting sites in that area

[0:56:13] Voice 5: and they are a semi-endangered species. So I just want to say no nay to this project.

[0:56:23] Voice 5: I have trouble speaking about this but it's emotional for me but that's enough.

[0:56:29] Voice 1: No thank you.

[0:56:30] Voice 1: Anyone else? Yes please.

[0:56:34] Voice 8: I'd like to encourage

[0:56:36] Trustee Elliott: the

[0:56:38] Voice 12: trustee and his trust to move forward in

[0:56:43] Voice 12: in reconciliation, to support reconciliation,

[0:56:47] Voice 12: and to perhaps consider indigenous protected

[0:56:52] Voice 12: and conserved areas as a planning tool

[0:56:57] Voice 12: for areas that are being developed.

[0:57:04] Voice 12: It's something to be researched and applied

[0:57:12] Voice 12: And so I support the trustees in furthering the reference

[0:57:21] Voice 12: affiliation.

[0:57:22] Trustee Elliott: Thank you very much.

[0:57:24] Voice 13: Anyone else?

[0:57:26] Voice 13: Yes, please.

[0:57:27] Voice 13: I'm Taffa Quirmish, and I share some of the concerns

[0:57:32] Voice 13: that have already been expressed about the Center

[0:57:36] Voice 13: Sage Holdings development plan.

[0:57:40] Voice 13: And I just haven't heard, it's probably

[0:57:42] Voice 13: I didn't mention before I'm just kind of jumping into this late in the game but I haven't I know

[0:57:49] Voice 13: there was geotechnical reports referenced from quite some time ago and that there was a recent

[0:57:53] Voice 13: geotechnical report relating to the stability after the predicted stability after removal of

[0:58:03] Voice 13: to the 1900 trees i'm concerned um also for the um i i don't know geotechnical stability does that

[0:58:14] Voice 13: reference the change of the drainage of the water and the potential flooding from properties below

[0:58:22] Voice 13: i live in the neighborhood below and there's definitely been some shifts in what we're

[0:58:28] Voice 13: noticing in the volume of water just with the amount of trees and changes that have been done

[0:58:33] Voice 13: done so far. Just a neighbor had her septic flood for the first time last year. She was hearing all

[0:58:43] Voice 13: kinds of moving water. We were all hearing moving water that wasn't happening before. So it's

[0:58:48] Voice 13: worrisome given how low people are beneath that. There's also already been a noticeable increase

[0:58:57] Voice 13: in truck traffic on Garland and Black Haven.

[0:59:02] Voice 13: It's a skinny road.

[0:59:03] Voice 13: There's a tight switchback.

[0:59:05] Voice 13: There's one unfortunate resident

[0:59:07] Voice 13: who lived right in the switchback.

[0:59:09] Voice 13: So every truck goes completely around their house.

[0:59:13] Voice 13: And the road just doesn't seem sufficient to me

[0:59:17] Voice 13: to increase traffic on an ongoing basis

[0:59:22] Voice 13: or further than it's already been increased.

[0:59:24] Voice 13: And I'm wondering how you would find out about that part of the plan?

[0:59:32] Voice 13: Are they intending to continue using the existing road or are there other roadways that would be part of the development for different access?

[0:59:48] Voice 12: Good question. We can consider that when we have our... I can't answer that right now.

[0:59:53] Voice 12: but

[0:59:54] Trustee Elliott: thank you that's something that we can consider when we have our discussion

[0:59:57] Trustee Elliott: sorry and what sorry not bonding to you

[1:00:00] Trustee Elliott: but Garland Drive and

[1:00:03] Voice 11: Lackhaven.

[1:00:05] Voice 13: Garland Drive and Lackhaven that lead up to Carrier and Bonnyview.

[1:00:08] Voice 13: Right.

[1:00:09] Voice 13: And Bonnyview at this point is stopped at Seymour.

[1:00:13] Voice 13: It doesn't go through to Seymour.

[1:00:15] Voice 13: I mean, it could physically be opened,

[1:00:18] Voice 13: but at this point Garland and Lackhaven are the only access to Carrier

[1:00:24] Voice 13: and the only access to Bonnyview.

[1:00:25] Voice 13: yeah

[1:00:26] Voice 3: yeah that whole area is

[1:00:28] Trustee Elliott: um doesn't have a driveway through because it's it's just got a

[1:00:32] Trustee Elliott: grandfathered driveway so sorry sorry um that whole area um has a grandfathered driveway but

[1:00:40] Trustee Elliott: it is not an official roadway through because it's a private property yeah so um that's part

[1:00:48] Trustee Elliott: part of the subdivision application that um has this committee give a referral response to

[1:00:55] Trustee Elliott: there's an open application with Moti right now um with that whole project and so yes the roads

[1:01:03] Trustee Elliott: are tied with that potential project the roads are are tied into like the construction of roads

[1:01:12] Trustee Elliott: would be part of the subdivision project but as of yet it's not gone through

[1:01:19] Trustee Elliott: Moti's process. Thank you for your sharing.

[1:01:24] Voice 1: Before I go to second speakers I

[1:01:26] Voice 1: want to make sure I've covered first speakers. Is there anyone else that

[1:01:29] Voice 1: wishes to address us today?

[1:01:31] Trustee Elliott: There's actually an email from somebody who

[1:01:34] Trustee Elliott: asked who couldn't be at present but it's a short paragraph did we read it

[1:01:38] Trustee Elliott: out scott holborn i

[1:01:43] Voice 12: miss him um uh sure if scott has written in and is watching thank you scott

[1:01:50] Voice 12: um

[1:01:51] Trustee Elliott: and uh i i will yeah yeah

[1:01:54] Trustee Elliott: i think that would be read into the public record if possible it's

[1:01:57] Trustee Elliott: just a short short paragraph thank you chair during my term on the trust 2018-2022 a letter

[1:02:04] Trustee Elliott: from the chair of the gabriela ltc from chair dan rogers was sent to these applicants i'm assuming

[1:02:12] Trustee Elliott: center stage holding uh regarding the subdivision proposal and was shared publicly in the name of

[1:02:19] Trustee Elliott: first nation other local governments in the province of british columbia the letter made

[1:02:24] Trustee Elliott: it clear that no development should be permitted on this sacred land without consent from snaneva

[1:02:31] Trustee Elliott: those words stand the current ltc does not have a clear indication of that consent and no action

[1:02:40] Trustee Elliott: should be taken today to advance this development in any way this land and the cultural heritage

[1:02:46] Trustee Elliott: in its home too has sadly been drastically altered and damaged in the meantime and i ask

[1:02:52] Trustee Elliott: you to do everything in your power to protect and preserve it for this and future generations

[1:02:57] Trustee Elliott: I wish

[1:02:59] Voice 12: Scott Lord was the former trustee here.

[1:03:02] Voice 12: I'm sure you know.

[1:03:03] Trustee Elliott: All right.

[1:03:05] Trustee Elliott: Thank you, Scott.

[1:03:06] Trustee Elliott: Chair Patrick, I just wanted to comment on Laura Jean Kelly's comment about Indigenous

[1:03:12] Voice 14: protected areas and Indigenous protected conservation areas.

[1:03:17] Voice 14: The Islands Trust Conservancy has staff and board members who are definitely working towards

[1:03:25] Voice 14: that kind of work.

[1:03:28] Voice 14: I think Stephanie Atleo was actually going to be talking to us specifically about that,

[1:03:33] Voice 14: but she couldn't make our last Conservancy meeting.

[1:03:35] Voice 14: I expect she'll be at the next one.

[1:03:38] Voice 14: And I have attended some sessions on

[1:03:41] Trustee Elliott: indigenous protected conservation areas,

[1:03:44] Trustee Elliott: sort of as a result of the Herring Festival on Hornby Island.

[1:03:48] Trustee Elliott: And one of the trustees from Hornby is intimately connected

[1:03:53] Voice 14: with working with First Nations all up in the coast.

[1:03:56] Voice 14: coast. The

[1:03:58] Trustee Elliott: first session I attended where we had First Nations from the Tla'amen area,

[1:04:04] Trustee Elliott: I was just so impressed by the incredible work they've done to protect parts of the

[1:04:12] Trustee Elliott: coastline that is where they

[1:04:14] Voice 14: live, where their food comes from, and where their transportation

[1:04:17] Voice 14: is. We couldn't do wrong by not working with them and supporting them in that kind of work.

[1:04:24] Trustee Elliott: it

[1:04:25] Voice 14: so thank you for just

[1:04:26] Trustee Elliott: mentioning all right you're not in the public i know but there's

[1:04:34] Trustee Elliott: there is i just there is another letter that came in that did not make it on to the agenda

[1:04:40] Trustee Elliott: the trustees have read it i assume um but they're um just again for the public record

[1:04:47] Trustee Elliott: uh there is a resident who's exceptionally concerned about um that development and this

[1:04:55] Trustee Elliott: developer. They live at the base of the slope. I am extremely concerned about the future

[1:05:02] Trustee Elliott: and preservation of the sacred burial caves and petroglyphs on the land in question. As

[1:05:08] Trustee Elliott: fence neighbors to their lower development, we have watched them breaking law after law

[1:05:12] Trustee Elliott: with CDF logging, summertime logging, road development during shutdowns and on and on.

[1:05:18] Trustee Elliott: Legal logging and fire danger aside, I am deeply concerned about the logging and disrespect

[1:05:23] Trustee Elliott: respect to mouse woman and other sacred petroglyphs, burial caves, and the many mittens on the

[1:05:28] Trustee Elliott: land.

[1:05:28] Trustee Elliott: I believe that this land should be in the hands of the Sinaiwak First Nation, not the

[1:05:32] Trustee Elliott: hands of a developer with no respect for history, its preservation in a deeper sense.

[1:05:38] Trustee Elliott: And I believe this is important to read, sorry, those are my words, because we are hearing

[1:05:43] Trustee Elliott: from community members today about the impacts already before that development's going forward.

[1:05:52] Trustee Elliott: forward. They logged right up to the petroglyphs last summer during fire shutdown, which has

[1:05:57] Trustee Elliott: exasperated a bunch of moss and green growth and caused flaking on those petroglyphs, causing

[1:06:02] Trustee Elliott: deterioration of the sandstone and destroying them completely. They have stayed the same for the 30

[1:06:08] Trustee Elliott: years I have lived here, but from this time, from this last year, has completely destroyed the orca

[1:06:14] Trustee Elliott: eating a fish petroglyph that was seven feet long and three feet tall just in one year. On a very

[1:06:22] Trustee Elliott: personal note our property is at the base of a 200 foot cliff which is under the second level

[1:06:26] Trustee Elliott: of their subdivision up from the petroglyph part of the land in question the logging at the top of

[1:06:32] Trustee Elliott: the cliff has caused the cliff to deteriorate and send giant rocks down in many spots also because

[1:06:38] Trustee Elliott: of the logging on the top of the cliff the trees have become completely exposed and destabilized

[1:06:42] Trustee Elliott: on the cliff itself since they lock the cliff's top we now get huge trees falling downhill towards

[1:06:48] Trustee Elliott: towards our property from that 200 foot height above,

[1:06:52] Trustee Elliott: especially during wind storms.

[1:06:54] Trustee Elliott: Our neighbors had a tree come right through their roof

[1:06:56] Trustee Elliott: and we're now afraid, since they're logging,

[1:06:58] Trustee Elliott: to develop anything on the back of our property

[1:07:00] Trustee Elliott: because we know that trees will just come down

[1:07:02] Trustee Elliott: into any structures or fences that we develop.

[1:07:06] Trustee Elliott: I have a musical studio as I'm a musician

[1:07:08] Trustee Elliott: that backs onto their property.

[1:07:10] Trustee Elliott: In the last six months, four of their dead trees

[1:07:13] Trustee Elliott: have come through my studio roof

[1:07:14] Trustee Elliott: and cost me thousands of dollars in labor

[1:07:16] Trustee Elliott: and building supplies to do repairs. They do not respond to emails which is the

[1:07:22] Trustee Elliott: means of communication they gave me to stay in touch with them about these

[1:07:24] Trustee Elliott: trees in question. And since they logged the top of the hill we have somewhat

[1:07:29] Trustee Elliott: water runoff that will actually be running on the surface of our property

[1:07:32] Trustee Elliott: down towards the road and bigger rainstorms. When the atmospheric rivers

[1:07:37] Trustee Elliott: are happening our property is gumboots mandatory. This is all new since they

[1:07:42] Trustee Elliott: logged the property above the cliff in 2020. I'm hoping to see the land arranged in trust of the

[1:07:48] Trustee Elliott: Snuneymuc First Nation, especially their sacred site, which is vast and much larger than what

[1:07:54] Trustee Elliott: the developers have marked. It seems the developers felt that logging right up to the petroglyphs was

[1:07:59] Trustee Elliott: a good idea and I just can't imagine a world where that makes sense. I'm really concerned

[1:08:09] Trustee Elliott: they will destroy the last of those petroglyphs.

[1:08:13] Trustee Elliott: No swamp.

[1:08:14] Trustee Elliott: With the strides we are trying to make towards reconciliation,

[1:08:17] Trustee Elliott: this feels like a forefront issue for our island

[1:08:20] Trustee Elliott: and its native people,

[1:08:21] Trustee Elliott: and I hope putting this letter in your hands

[1:08:23] Trustee Elliott: helps to stop this development before it happens.

[1:08:28] Trustee Elliott: If there is a point in which they have gone too far

[1:08:30] Trustee Elliott: with breaking laws and rules and taking trust,

[1:08:32] Trustee Elliott: this is it.

[1:08:34] Trustee Elliott: Please let me know if there is anything I can do to assist.

[1:08:36] Trustee Elliott: Thank you so much for listening.

[1:08:37] Trustee Elliott: That is from Dinah Dee.

[1:08:39] Trustee Elliott: and i think it was just important to read that into the bracket thank you chair thank you very

[1:08:45] Voice 1: much

[1:08:45] Trustee Elliott: all right anyone

[1:08:47] Voice 1: else that wishes to address us today thank you

[1:08:50] Voice 4: yes the idea is to come up with

[1:08:54] Voice 4: some bylaw regulations to deal with the issues where we're having growing things on the island

[1:09:01] Voice 4: from what i can see it's quite substantial especially since they have a lot of areas

[1:09:05] Voice 4: it's become busier and busier and the agenda is to come up with a plan that's uh enforceable

[1:09:16] Voice 4: and you're saying i should contact the bylaw some questions guys for this issue about uh

[1:09:24] Voice 4: the commercial use of residential property and i have and the one i talked to told me i was

[1:09:31] Voice 4: exaggerated the number of trucks that went by. There wasn't thousands of cubic meters of yards

[1:09:36] Voice 4: or cubic meters of soil and dirt, rocks and logs on the property. And there was something else he

[1:09:47] Voice 4: contradicted me on. He didn't believe anything I told him. So that's where I got with it all so

[1:09:55] Voice 4: far. So I'm not getting anywhere with that kind of thing.

[1:10:01] Voice 1: Again, specific property, but if you're

[1:10:04] Voice 1: having issues with our staff i do encourage you to reach out to our cao directly um we don't manage

[1:10:10] Voice 1: staff our cao does so if you have an interaction i would encourage you to speak with

[1:10:15] Voice 4: our cio well

[1:10:16] Voice 4: the other thing he told me they weren't going by my property and i don't know where we got

[1:10:25] Voice 4: the information that said they didn't go past my property when i was standing there watching

[1:10:32] Voice 4: So I encourage you to speak with our

[1:10:35] Voice 12: CEO on interactions with our staff,

[1:10:39] Voice 1: so that's the right path.

[1:10:43] Voice 1: Okay, everyone. I really want to thank you for your words this morning, your comments.

[1:10:49] Voice 1: We take them to heart and we will be considering them as we make decisions in the meeting.

[1:10:55] Voice 1: So I'm going to close the public comment period and move on.

[1:10:59] Voice 1: that's okay so give you

[1:11:02] Voice 1: a moment if you're

[1:11:03] Trustee Elliott: departing us thank you for coming

[1:11:12] Voice 3: sure

[1:11:52] Voice 7: we're

[1:17:26] Trustee Elliott: just hanging out to see dad if you discuss the correspondence or just acknowledge it

[1:17:31] Trustee Elliott: we will discuss we'll be discussing correspondence

[1:17:36] Trustee Elliott: So I know it'll probably be after lunch, probably, probably. Yeah. Yeah.

[1:17:41] Voice 1: We follow this has come back again. All right. Well, thank you. We just took a free break there.

[1:17:49] Voice 1: Like to proceed. We are at item 6.1 on the agenda, which was my minutes from June 26.

[1:17:59] Voice 1: Trustees, are there any additions or corrections to these minutes?

[1:18:02] Voice 1: minutes. That's great. So can we adopt the minutes through general consent? Excellent.

[1:18:09] Voice 1: I want to move on to the item 7.1. It's a follow-up action list on page 16 of the agenda

[1:18:15] Voice 1: package. Staff, are there any issues in the follow-up action list that you wish to bring

[1:18:21] Voice 1: to our attention today? No.

[1:18:23] Voice 1: Trustees, are there any questions on the follow-up action list?

[1:18:30] Voice 1: all right moving right along then we're in section nine which is applications and referrals

[1:18:36] Voice 1: 9.1 we have uh gb dp 2021.1 uh staff report on page 19 of the agenda package

[1:18:49] Voice 1: we'll turn the floor over to planner mom

[1:18:58] Voice 5: So this report is related to the development permit application for the proposed tree cutting

[1:19:04] Voice 5: subdivision in development permit area 6, the development permit area that's established

[1:19:11] Voice 5: for the protection of development from hazardous conditions.

[1:19:16] Voice 5: The LTC has requested information about options to tie the development permits permission

[1:19:22] Voice 5: for tree cutting to the MOT to be approval of the subdivisions and staff have investigated

[1:19:28] Voice 5: this question and found that conditions must be linked to a development permit guideline.

[1:19:35] Voice 5: At their previous meeting, the LDC also requested a revision of the draft permit to add a reference

[1:19:42] Voice 5: to the BC Heritage Conservation Act and that's included in the attached draft permit to the

[1:19:47] Voice 5: staff report um and staff consider the guidelines of the dpa have been met and recommend that the

[1:19:56] Voice 5: ltc approve issuance of the development permit because the ltc cannot refuse to issue a

[1:20:01] Voice 5: development permit if the development is deemed to be consistent with the guidelines all right

[1:20:09] Trustee Elliott: Great, thank you.

[1:20:12] Voice 12: Trustees, how would you like to proceed?

[1:20:24] Voice 11: Having that door open is a little bit of a challenge.

[1:20:43] Voice 12: I wanted, one

[1:20:44] Voice 1: possibility is to really have

[1:20:46] Voice 1: a deep conversation, I

[1:20:48] Voice 1: know last time we did

[1:20:50] Voice 1: on the objective, I'm trying to find the objective

[1:20:53] Voice 1: in this report. Is the objective for DP6 in here, or just the two guidelines?

[1:21:01] Voice 1: The objective of this DPA is to protect development from natural hazards, including terrain, instability, erosion,

[1:21:11] Voice 1: land slippage, rock falls, subsidence, debris flows, and flooding, or changes up to stormwater runoff due to development

[1:21:21] Voice 1: on or in proximity to the lands with excessive slope conditions it's always

[1:21:28] Voice 1: important to read the objective because it's not just meeting the guidelines

[1:21:33] Voice 1: it's the objective and the guidelines that the permit must meet there are only

[1:21:40] Voice 1: two guidelines that go with this development permit the first one is

[1:21:45] Voice 1: there shall be no construction of buildings septic tanks drainage deposit

[1:21:50] Voice 1: deposit drainage and deposit fields, irrigation, or water systems unless a geotechnical engineer

[1:21:56] Voice 1: recommends that such construction may occur without subjecting land in the escarpment area

[1:22:01] Voice 1: to increase instability. The second guideline is there shall be no removal of trees or vegetation

[1:22:10] Voice 1: unless a geotechnical engineer recommends that such removal may occur without subjecting the

[1:22:16] Voice 1: land in the escarpment area to increased slope instability so trustees while staff have recommended

[1:22:30] Voice 1: that in their opinion it meets that is just a piece of information for us to consider

[1:22:35] Voice 1: we have all of the reports we have all of the information in front of us it is for us to come

[1:22:43] Voice 1: to the conclusion of do we agree the guidelines have been met and

[1:22:53] Voice 12: objectives objective and

[1:22:55] Voice 12: and guidelines.

[1:23:01] Voice 12: I'd love to hear your

[1:23:03] Voice 3: thoughts

[1:23:04] Voice 12: on just,

[1:23:05] Voice 12: do you believe these have been met,

[1:23:09] Voice 1: including the objective?

[1:23:13] Voice 14: I shall, I'll say right now,

[1:23:15] Voice 14: I do not believe they have been met.

[1:23:18] Voice 14: Can you, on what ways?

[1:23:22] Voice 14: I do not believe they have been met

[1:23:24] Trustee Elliott: in the larger philosophical sense

[1:23:30] Trustee Elliott: that the

[1:23:31] Voice 14: development permit is for the developer.

[1:23:35] Voice 14: It is to protect the developer so that their development is not harmed by any of these instabilities, flooding, any of the things that can result if trees are removed from this area.

[1:23:53] Voice 14: area, but because we already know from the past two decades of tree removal, that exact

[1:24:03] Voice 14: same area, in that area, that

[1:24:05] Trustee Elliott: damage has occurred below slopes.

[1:24:09] Trustee Elliott: There's irrefutable proof that damage has occurred.

[1:24:13] Trustee Elliott: why would similar damage not occur with further removal of up to 1900 trees

[1:24:23] Trustee Elliott: on

[1:24:25] Voice 14: some pretty steep areas not just in the dp area itself but in the surrounding areas

[1:24:33] Voice 14: and how could i not think that more damage would not happen i cannot believe that it wouldn't

[1:24:42] Voice 14: happen and if it does happen it is in direct proximity to some like just priceless there is

[1:24:53] Voice 14: no cost on cultural heritage i mean we can't put a price on that cultural heritage it is it is ours

[1:25:01] Voice 14: to protect

[1:25:03] Voice 11: well

[1:25:05] Voice 14: sorry it is not ours to protect i it is ours to stop

[1:25:14] Trustee Elliott: the damage from happening

[1:25:16] Trustee Elliott: I mean, I guess that's a better way to put it.

[1:25:19] Voice 14: I just, I mean, technically the conditions have been met, but

[1:25:33] Trustee Elliott: in the narrowest sense

[1:25:35] Trustee Elliott: they've been met and not in the broader sense that every one of us who has seen that property

[1:25:43] Trustee Elliott: walked on those slopes, looked at what's been happening over the past few decades,

[1:25:49] Voice 14: knows that there will be damage there will be flooding there will be damage to sacred sites

[1:26:00] Voice 14: and it is our job to

[1:26:03] Trustee Elliott: not let that happen so those are my thoughts i just want to

[1:26:11] Voice 1: question you you said that the dpa is to protect the developer but the objective says the objective

[1:26:18] Voice 1: of this dpa is to protect development not the development yeah development yeah and that is

[1:26:25] Voice 1: absolutely correct it could be interpreted to be existing because it also refers to in or in

[1:26:32] Voice 1: the proximity of the lands with excessive slope so i just wanted to thank you we are not having

[1:26:41] Voice 1: a discussion thank you chair for this is a discussion

[1:26:44] Trustee Elliott: between us at this time in fact

[1:26:47] Trustee Elliott: i i would like to help protect the developer i am sorry that the developer has spent so much time

[1:26:53] Trustee Elliott: and money on this property it's the protection of

[1:26:57] Trustee Elliott: the future yeah well please uh no outbursts

[1:27:02] Voice 14: but i also actually believe that any development any further deficit on this area will not be

[1:27:11] Voice 14: stable okay i

[1:27:15] Voice 14: really don't i just i cannot believe it i've walked that whole area i've watched what's

[1:27:19] Voice 14: happened over the past two decades yeah i wonder

[1:27:25] Trustee Elliott: thank you trustee elliott your thoughts on so the

[1:27:30] Trustee Elliott: second line of this um if if we were to issue the permit states this development permit gbdp

[1:27:39] Trustee Elliott: 2021.1 authorizes the subdivision of the subject parcel and removal of select trees within

[1:27:47] Trustee Elliott: development permit area six steep slopes subject to the following requirements and conditions

[1:27:53] Trustee Elliott: this line ties the development permit to the subdivision project they are not separate

[1:28:02] Trustee Elliott: and so my question is not do we approve this development permit today

[1:28:09] Trustee Elliott: day. My question is when does consideration of the permit come within the larger process

[1:28:17] Trustee Elliott: of the entire proposed project? Until and unless the proponent and MOTI have confirmed the name

[1:28:29] Trustee Elliott: of First Nation consents to the proposed development, I believe this local government

[1:28:34] Trustee Elliott: cannot issue any permits that further supports development on burial grounds. The development

[1:28:41] Trustee Elliott: permit for DP6 is tied to the proposed development, part of the whole package. MOTT has made it clear

[1:28:48] Trustee Elliott: that there are a lot of conditions to be met before this proposed development is approved

[1:28:53] Trustee Elliott: and the first and most fundamental is the name of First Nations consent. After that all of those

[1:29:00] Trustee Elliott: other conditions can be met, negotiated, agreed upon. This LTC made a clear stand in 2021 and

[1:29:10] Trustee Elliott: again last year in may 2024 that the gabriel local trust committee stands with the name of first

[1:29:17] Trustee Elliott: nation and that it does not consent or approve any development until and unless it's the name

[1:29:25] Trustee Elliott: of consents to the whole proposed development and i do have some questions about um the overlay of

[1:29:35] Trustee Elliott: the steep slope permit area with both defined archaeological areas and areas of high potential

[1:29:45] Trustee Elliott: for archaeological sites. So I've looked at mapping that was provided in a very recent

[1:29:55] Trustee Elliott: inventory. I can't, it's not public information, but.

[1:30:00] Trustee Elliott: from the heritage, from the archeological inventory search.

[1:30:05] Trustee Elliott: And to my uninformed view, I'm not a planner,

[1:30:10] Trustee Elliott: but I see that there's large areas

[1:30:14] Trustee Elliott: that the ARC branch has identified

[1:30:17] Trustee Elliott: for its high potential of archeological significance.

[1:30:25] Trustee Elliott: Then there are the archeological site boundaries

[1:30:28] Trustee Elliott: boundaries of which there are 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, at least 11 long-standing

[1:30:35] Trustee Elliott: specific sites that are in red and my question to staff is have we done an analysis of whether

[1:30:43] Trustee Elliott: our steep slope permit area overlays with the area of high ARC potential and if in issuing

[1:30:52] Trustee Elliott: a permit to allow development there over areas of high ARC potential, how does that put the

[1:31:01] Trustee Elliott: Gabriel and Local Trust Committee in a position of seeming to consent to development over

[1:31:10] Trustee Elliott: heritage areas?

[1:31:11] Trustee Elliott: Mr.

[1:31:15] Voice 5: Chair, as far as I'm aware, so I have not been assigned this application, but there's

[1:31:21] Voice 5: not been an analysis of the, or I should say maybe the analysis is really focused on the

[1:31:32] Voice 5: guidelines and that development from the area and there's not a guideline that speaks to archaeological

[1:31:41] Voice 5: sites or areas of high potential. So to my knowledge, at least in AI, I don't think that

[1:31:48] Voice 5: analysis has been done. Your

[1:31:52] Voice 8: other second question you might need to remind me.

[1:31:59] Voice 14: That's your question. So I'd like to comment on that. That is extremely important to know this,

[1:32:09] Voice 14: but that work hasn't been done. And I just keep thinking of former chair Dan Rodgers'

[1:32:18] Voice 14: letter um you know where he clearly stated we cannot have development there without consent

[1:32:25] Voice 14: um it's the name of first nation sorry

[1:32:33] Voice 8: i'm sorry go ahead sure

[1:32:35] Voice 5: i could just maybe add a little bit

[1:32:37] Voice 5: more information just to say we do review all applications with that and we have a site context

[1:32:43] Voice 5: as well that um that does speak to some of that mapping that um that we have access to but um in

[1:32:52] Voice 5: terms of that particular question you asked about whether this this overlay has been done um that I

[1:32:59] Voice 5: don't think has gone to that detail and in particular that dpa6 mapping is really challenging

[1:33:04] Voice 5: to work with as well so um that's something we would yeah

[1:33:08] Trustee Elliott: so if I just can

[1:33:11] Trustee Elliott: continue yeah so

[1:33:12] Trustee Elliott: So a permit to protect future development in some hazardous conditions or current development,

[1:33:20] Trustee Elliott: houses that are right below the slope, is the smallest of the hurdles this project has to overcome.

[1:33:28] Trustee Elliott: The permit can be issued as soon as this LTC has a clear sign that this dynamic First Nation

[1:33:33] Trustee Elliott: are fundamentally in favor of any proposed development.

[1:33:37] Trustee Elliott: so my question is not whether to issue the permit it's when it should be issued within the larger

[1:33:44] Trustee Elliott: process of considering any development on this parcel so i do not believe we can move forward

[1:33:52] Trustee Elliott: and process an administrative permit today that further allows a development process to unfold

[1:34:00] Trustee Elliott: bold when the preeminent questions have not yet been settled so the first things that must be

[1:34:08] Trustee Elliott: settled that i think mostly is engaged with right now and we've all stated that this is important

[1:34:14] Trustee Elliott: does the name of first nation consent to any development on the parcel and i can go into what

[1:34:21] Trustee Elliott: i've heard lately if you wish the second question are the tools and provisions for the protection

[1:34:28] Trustee Elliott: of the many First Nations archaeological sites in place as required by the existing Covenant.

[1:34:37] Trustee Elliott: This is why I asked to bring this new business to discuss our obligations under the Covenant

[1:34:44] Trustee Elliott: EX 113595, Section 219 Covenant between Centre Stage Holdings and the Gabriel Island Local

[1:34:51] Trustee Elliott: Trust Committee, in which the owner has agreed to certain conditions ensuring that the proposed

[1:34:57] Trustee Elliott: proposed bylaw amendment which was the 2005 density transfer to rezone the land from resource to

[1:35:03] Trustee Elliott: resource residential would be in the public interest so that is a covenant that we hold

[1:35:09] Trustee Elliott: there are legal obligations and part of that is that the land shall not be built upon or used for

[1:35:19] Trustee Elliott: any purpose or subdivided by any method unless the owner is in compliance with all of the conditions

[1:35:26] Trustee Elliott: should set out in Schedule B. Some of those conditions relate to the protection of the

[1:35:31] Trustee Elliott: archaeological sites. So I would argue that until those larger questions of consent and

[1:35:39] Trustee Elliott: what are the protections, what are the tools of protection for the heritage areas, those

[1:35:45] Trustee Elliott: need to be considered as our primary responsibility before consideration of this DP. And then

[1:35:53] Trustee Elliott: And then finally, our responsibility for local trust committee, and it goes back to Art of Cooper who asked, how do we respond to the changing values of our community today, that we are not the same as 20 years ago, community that has grown here is now appreciating and valuing indigenous cultural heritage, and it is a precious, irreplaceable.

[1:36:24] Trustee Elliott: As you said, there's no replacement. Once those thousand-year-old elements are gone or destroyed, there's no replacing it.

[1:36:35] Trustee Elliott: And we all value that. I've heard from my community members.

[1:36:38] Trustee Elliott: So what is our duty to consult with our own community on our values today about whether the development is still appropriate on that lot?

[1:36:47] Trustee Elliott: So I see that there's a number of things that need to be settled.

[1:36:50] Trustee Elliott: this development permit consideration can come back at a later date when all these big questions

[1:36:58] Trustee Elliott: have been discussed i

[1:37:03] Voice 1: i hear you my my question is if you don't think the guidelines have been

[1:37:08] Voice 1: met it is our job to interpret what words mean

[1:37:11] Voice 3: what

[1:37:12] Voice 1: they are um how broadly you want to define

[1:37:19] Voice 1: find the word development and if you don't believe that the guidelines are being met or are met

[1:37:29] Voice 1: are you you could deny the permit

[1:37:32] Voice 1: as well or you can delay it we've

[1:37:36] Trustee Elliott: always been told that we can

[1:37:37] Trustee Elliott: deny it that we have no discretion you

[1:37:40] Voice 1: have to provide your reasoning before not meeting the

[1:37:44] Voice 1: guidelines so you can't just say it doesn't meet the guideline you can say it doesn't meet the

[1:37:48] Voice 1: guideline because you

[1:37:51] Voice 5: have to

[1:38:02] Voice 1: stay your reasons so that's the conversation I'm

[1:38:06] Voice 1: trying to thank you promote from you is do you have reasons that you can

[1:38:12] Voice 1: articulate that they do not meet the objective and guidelines could be the objective or guidelines

[1:38:20] Voice 1: the objective is part of this so my

[1:38:25] Voice 14: reason is that they do not meet the objective perhaps

[1:38:31] Voice 14: because i know that technically according to the reports we have the guidelines have been met

[1:38:40] Voice 14: but even when I read those reports on the forest stands and the steep slopes the geotechnical

[1:38:48] Voice 14: reports and then I look at what's happening there all I can think of is how can this report still be

[1:38:55] Voice 14: relevant I know it was only I know they redid it in 2021 I know all that and I've read every

[1:39:03] Voice 14: report thoroughly I've walked that whole area I've talked to the neighbors who cleared their

[1:39:09] Voice 14: ditches with their own back holes when the flooding happened at the last blocking so

[1:39:15] Voice 14: it may say that those and i really appreciate the staff work that has gone into this

[1:39:22] Voice 14: to say that technically according to these reports the guidelines have been met but i think that now

[1:39:30] Voice 14: even with a few years having gone by that those reports are not meeting the guidelines and i'm

[1:39:39] Voice 14: not a geotechnical engineer i'm not a hydrogeologist but i certainly listen and i certainly pay

[1:39:47] Voice 14: attention and i certainly have lived here for 43 years and know that area well

[1:39:54] Voice 6: i

[1:39:54] Voice 12: was going to point out and when we talked about the

[1:39:59] Voice 1: changing understandings the primary

[1:40:03] Voice 1: geotech report was done in 2010 the 2023 report was the same author just updating yeah well in

[1:40:11] Voice 1: 2019 the professional engineering society brought in new codes that do apply to archaeology so

[1:40:20] Voice 1: i'm and the obligations of the professionals when what year

[1:40:25] Voice 1: 2019 new codes there's a code of conduct

[1:40:29] Voice 1: for professional engineers and as you know like i said times have changed it's now fully recognized

[1:40:37] Voice 1: that they have obligations on themselves as professional engineers to now speak, you know,

[1:40:44] Voice 1: when they understand and identify potential

[1:40:48] Trustee Elliott: harm.

[1:40:49] Trustee Elliott: Regardless of who is paying them in?

[1:40:52] Trustee Elliott: The

[1:40:52] Voice 1: code conduct is, as a professional, the behavior of the code is on the individual.

[1:40:58] Voice 1: Right.

[1:40:58] Voice 1: So, you know, I know that the 2023 report is absent, yet the 2010 report relies on aging of the burial mounds or slope stability.

[1:41:13] Voice 1: And that

[1:41:14] Voice 14: was before we've seen the ravages of climate change with 10-week droughts and torrential rainfalls.

[1:41:21] Voice 6: So

[1:41:22] Voice 14: that's my concern.

[1:41:25] Voice 14: And that's just the environmental concern, right?

[1:41:29] Voice 14: The larger cultural concern is just huge.

[1:41:35] Voice 14: We've made this commitment to reconciliation,

[1:41:38] Voice 14: but then we keep taking these steps backwards.

[1:41:42] Voice 14: Like, oh, well, you know,

[1:41:44] Voice 14: according to our regulations that are now

[1:41:46] Voice 14: how many years out of date,

[1:41:47] Voice 14: because we haven't even looked

[1:41:49] Voice 14: at our development permits for 25 years.

[1:41:54] Voice 14: We can't keep doing this.

[1:41:56] Voice 11: If

[1:41:56] Voice 14: we've made a commitment,

[1:41:57] Voice 14: then that's that's how law reform happens you find ways to make the right decision

[1:42:05] Voice 14: based on the information you have in front of you and everything you know about that topic

[1:42:12] Voice 14: and so when i say the dp i don't believe it's met i also don't believe it's met the obligations

[1:42:20] Voice 14: because the dp only covers that very small area and there's a much larger area that's affected

[1:42:27] Voice 14: affected by all of the activity that happens in that steep slope DPA well

[1:42:34] Trustee Elliott: the evidence is

[1:42:39] Trustee Elliott: in the lived experience of people who live below the slope and

[1:42:46] Trustee Elliott: we have multiple reports from 2020

[1:42:48] Trustee Elliott: 2020 2021 2022 last year there was tree cutting into the summertime and it's not true that the

[1:43:02] Trustee Elliott: development downstream is protected from the hazards of development above terrain instability

[1:43:10] Trustee Elliott: erosion landslip rock falls debris flows flooding changes to stormwater runoff all of those pieces

[1:43:18] Trustee Elliott: is that this objective the dpa is supposed to ensure that those things don't happen

[1:43:28] Trustee Elliott: the geotechnical reports cannot be true because the evidence is logging is resulting in all of

[1:43:37] Trustee Elliott: those conditions as we've just heard today so i think the choice is that we either

[1:43:43] Trustee Elliott: we could defer a decision on this until these larger questions are settled

[1:43:48] Trustee Elliott: or we could deny it because the geotechnical reports are insufficient in satisfying the

[1:43:58] Trustee Elliott: objective of the dpa to protect development from natural hazards or

[1:44:02] Voice 1: you could say based

[1:44:04] Voice 1: your reasoning could be on the evidence that you've seen and understand

[1:44:10] Voice 11: okay

[1:44:12] Voice 1: bottom off

[1:44:12] Voice 5: yeah uh sure i just did want to point out as well there is the

[1:44:17] Voice 5: alternative identified in the report to request additional information request

[1:44:24] Voice 5: additional information or

[1:44:25] Voice 1: you could make a decision so I'm encouraging you to

[1:44:29] Voice 1: think about that and from what what path forward you wish to take well

[1:44:36] Trustee Elliott: I had a

[1:44:36] Trustee Elliott: motion that was to request further information so I do think the question

[1:44:43] Trustee Elliott: of the overlay. So, yes, staff consider the guidelines of the DPA have been met. There's no, that's fine. My question is whether it puts this LTC in a position of conflict with our obligation to preserve and protect known heritage areas that First Nation has said

[1:45:16] Trustee Elliott: We want you to protect this.

[1:45:18] Trustee Elliott: So if in approving that DP over known areas of archaeological potential and high archaeological potential,

[1:45:29] Trustee Elliott: are we essentially approving development in an arctic area?

[1:45:35] Trustee Elliott: And we don't know that because the mapping hasn't been done.

[1:45:38] Trustee Elliott: So I would request staff report back on the question.

[1:45:42] Trustee Elliott: Or I think we just deny this because the evidence is that there are significant impacts in hazards to development downstream.

[1:45:58] Voice 1: I mean

[1:45:59] Voice 1: observed today.

[1:46:01] Voice 12: So that is, those are courses

[1:46:04] Voice 1: you can take.

[1:46:07] Voice 14: I might point out too that the letters that you so graciously allowed us to read out today, because we don't usually do that.

[1:46:15] Voice 14: But I have many more, many more letters on file that talk about the damage downslope

[1:46:22] Voice 14: and the potential damage downslope.

[1:46:25] Voice 14: Those are just a couple.

[1:46:27] Trustee Elliott: I don't know how to move forward with this.

[1:46:31] Trustee Elliott: I think the DP needs to come back after the larger questions are considered.

[1:46:38] Trustee Elliott: We can request staff to report back on whether the permit area overlays archaeological areas

[1:46:44] Trustee Elliott: and areas of high archaeological potential that would require us engaging with the archaeology

[1:46:49] Trustee Elliott: branch and it does take time we did ask staff to do something similar last year i don't remember

[1:46:56] Trustee Elliott: the exact wording but the response that planner provided was that the terms of the dp like you

[1:47:06] Trustee Elliott: can't add the response was you can't add in consideration of cultural heritage to the

[1:47:12] Trustee Elliott: criteria of the DP but I don't think we ask for an analysis of the only the areas but

[1:47:21] Voice 12: if you don't

[1:47:21] Voice 12: think the guidelines being met you're not asking for more information directed at that so that's

[1:47:27] Trustee Elliott: true that's well the objectives the guidelines the guidelines specify that the geotechnical

[1:47:35] Trustee Elliott: report will be provided right

[1:47:37] Voice 8: but

[1:47:38] Trustee Elliott: the objective but the geotechnical report um

[1:47:48] Voice 5: well i'm hearing um the distinction being made between objectives and the guidelines and i

[1:47:53] Voice 5: wonder would it be helpful if i read out to that section of the wolf yard act

[1:47:59] Voice 5: that talks about objectives and guidelines for developing different areas sure because

[1:48:04] Voice 5: because it can kind of so with respect to areas this is um section 488 um and the first part of

[1:48:16] Voice 5: it is you know an ocp can designate a development permit area for a lot of purposes one of them is

[1:48:23] Voice 5: protection and development from hazardous conditions the next um section there says

[1:48:27] Voice 5: with respect to areas designated under subsection one the official community plan must a describe

[1:48:34] Voice 5: the special conditions or objectives that justify the designation, and b specify guidelines

[1:48:40] Voice 5: respecting the manner by which the special conditions or objectives will be addressed.

[1:48:45] Voice 5: So that's the last question.

[1:48:48] Trustee Elliott: Sir, can you read the A and B again, one more time?

[1:48:51] Trustee Elliott: Describe the special conditions that...

[1:48:54] Voice 5: Describe the special conditions or objectives that justify the designation, and

[1:49:00] Voice 5: And B, specify guidelines respecting the manner by which the special conditions or objectives for the year will be addressed.

[1:49:09] Trustee Elliott: It says or or and.

[1:49:12] Trustee Elliott: Or be or and be and.

[1:49:14] Trustee Elliott: And.

[1:49:15] Voice 12: A, and.

[1:49:17] Voice 12: So the objective is important.

[1:49:25] Voice 1: It's to protect development.

[1:49:30] Voice 1: It's an old word.

[1:49:33] Voice 1: How do you interpret it today?

[1:49:34] Voice 1: that is your job what what is your interpretation of that objective in today's well

[1:49:47] Trustee Elliott: my question

[1:49:48] Trustee Elliott: the last line here rationale for recommendation staff consider that the objectives and specific

[1:49:53] Trustee Elliott: guidelines the dpa have been met the ltc cannot refuse to issue a dp for any other reason

[1:49:58] Trustee Elliott: if it is deemed to be consistent with the guidelines as stated in the lub but can the

[1:50:04] Trustee Elliott: ltc refused to issue a dp if it is not consistent with the objective or it doesn't meet the

[1:50:11] Trustee Elliott: objective of the dp my understanding is yes due to conversations

[1:50:15] Voice 1: i've had with director

[1:50:17] Voice 1: cermak recently said you were to look carefully at objectives as well

[1:50:24] Voice 5: if you've received that advice

[1:50:25] Voice 5: maybe it's something we could report back to you on but i'm reading this saying that the guidelines

[1:50:35] Voice 5: um how about

[1:50:38] Voice 1: we rephrase that how did staff define development so

[1:50:44] Voice 5: development is defined

[1:50:45] Voice 5: in the act as well so section 489 um is uh designates i'm

[1:50:55] Voice 7: just gonna maybe it's not

[1:51:07] Voice 5: it may not be the definition actually yeah um there there's essentially activities where they

[1:51:13] Voice 5: required development permit is specifically laid out within the Local Government Act.

[1:51:18] Voice 5: So including subdivision construction of addition or alteration to a building or structure

[1:51:25] Voice 5: and land in an area designated under the particular habitat conditions must not be altered.

[1:51:36] Voice 5: So alteration of land subdivision construction.

[1:51:40] Voice 1: Those are the triggers. Those are the activities

[1:51:43] activities that trigger but the Local Government Act the development

[1:51:46] Voice 1: permit lays out what is being

[1:51:48] Voice 1: protected or what is so we have to define the objective what are we protecting the guidelines

[1:51:56] Voice 1: on how to meet it so in this case it's protecting development from natural hazards and terrain

[1:52:05] Voice 12: so

[1:52:06] Voice 12: it's our job to define what we're protecting just pushing questions so

[1:52:15] Voice 14: Chair Patrick the

[1:52:17] Voice 14: the larger question for me is is the fact that does all of this hinges right now on

[1:52:24] Voice 14: approving this development permit but the question is so much larger than that

[1:52:31] Voice 14: all the questions that need to be answered this seems to me like the last thing we should be

[1:52:37] Voice 14: looking at in this whole picture but like my bigger concern is whether condition 11 of the

[1:52:43] Voice 14: covenant is being upheld and that's not even related to the development permit except that

[1:52:52] Voice 14: the development permit is required to get this whole thing going but we shouldn't be getting

[1:52:58] Voice 14: any of this going until we've seen whether the covenant that covenant has been

[1:53:02] Voice 1: that's the new

[1:53:04] Voice 1: business item yeah

[1:53:05] Trustee Elliott: so

[1:53:08] Voice 1: except our questions are as you

[1:53:11] Trustee Elliott: know so i think we need more information

[1:53:13] Trustee Elliott: we have a regional planning manager general general let's raise your hand

[1:53:24] Voice 2: good afternoon chair and trustees um i in the discussion about um reference to objectives

[1:53:32] Voice 2: the gabriela official community plan does have an objective for development permit area six

[1:53:38] Voice 2: which was also part of the staff report

[1:53:42] Voice 2: from your last Trust Council meeting

[1:53:44] Voice 2: and I can also read that

[1:53:48] Voice 2: as it relates to the analysis completed

[1:53:51] Voice 2: for this development permit application

[1:53:55] Voice 2: if that helps to clarify.

[1:53:58] Voice 2: I

[1:53:58] Voice 1: just read it.

[1:53:59] Voice 1: So I did read it.

[1:54:01] Voice 1: It's in this

[1:54:02] Voice 1: report as well.

[1:54:05] Voice 1: on page 28 just above the table on guidelines so

[1:54:11] Voice 2: through the chair that would be um part of

[1:54:14] Voice 2: this discussion is the ltc's contemplation of this objective and whether this application

[1:54:22] Voice 2: satisfies or meets this objective in your consideration for a decision thank you that

[1:54:29] Trustee Elliott: That was my question. So thank you, Rene. So staff say that the application meets the guidelines.

[1:54:39] Trustee Elliott: The report does not say the application meets the objectives. And I would argue it is up to

[1:54:46] Trustee Elliott: the LTC to interpret how it meets the policy set out in our OCP. And I would say no, it does not

[1:54:55] Trustee Elliott: I mean, those objectives, we have clear evidence from many different people that their homes and their studios and their water and the terrain is impacted already by the logging that's been happening on that slope, not even in the steep side of the area.

[1:55:14] Trustee Elliott: So it isn't protecting anybody.

[1:55:17] Trustee Elliott: So I would say, no, we cannot issue this permit.

[1:55:22] Trustee Elliott: That is a course of action.

[1:55:24] Trustee Elliott: you may take uh trustee ace well and

[1:55:27] Voice 14: also whether it complies um you know says yes because the

[1:55:32] Voice 14: applicant has provided a detailed tree assessment inventory and i do question that tree assessment

[1:55:37] Voice 14: inventory by the way because there are huge arbutus trees in one of the areas that are not

[1:55:42] Voice 14: even accounted for that's something different um geotechnical engineer statement low to very low

[1:55:48] Voice 14: risk to slope stability. I want no risk. This is the low to very low. What if you were the

[1:55:58] Voice 14: person under the low when it all comes flooding down in November? I mean, I don't know.

[1:56:06] Trustee Elliott: Yeah. And I have seen cases on main island where a geotechnical report and an engineer

[1:56:13] Trustee Elliott: was in the room saying, yeah, we removed all these big trees from this massive slope, which

[1:56:18] Trustee Elliott: right over a road but there's no impacts and everybody in the community is like right how did

[1:56:25] Trustee Elliott: you get your engineering degree like it's running off right onto the road and it just it's crazy

[1:56:32] Trustee Elliott: making that sometimes engineers can say things about forestry that i just i question

[1:56:39] Trustee Elliott: should they be talking

[1:56:42] Voice 1: to one another maybe well in in one of the reports it clearly says

[1:56:47] Voice 1: the archaeological sites were disturbed from historical logging so they've already shown even

[1:56:53] Voice 1: cutting trees has created some of the damage in the archaeology sites okay

[1:57:02] Voice 12: so trustees

[1:57:04] Voice 12: what would you like to do your course of action request more information

[1:57:08] Trustee Elliott: i think on the basis

[1:57:11] Trustee Elliott: that it does not meet the objective of the dpa based on the evidence of community members

[1:57:17] Trustee Elliott: members stating that their homes and properties are impacted already, that some LTC cannot

[1:57:29] Trustee Elliott: issue this development permit.

[1:57:32] And may

[1:57:36] Voice 14: I add that we also have evidence that cultural heritage sites have been disturbed.

[1:57:45] Trustee Elliott: It's not related to

[1:57:47] Voice 14: this particular permit,

[1:57:49] Trustee Elliott: but oh boy, oh boy, yeah, okay, we'll get

[1:57:51] Trustee Elliott: into that like i said it's so easy to think you know you can take a broad definition well actually

[1:57:57] Trustee Elliott: no thank you trustee gates because we haven't identified whether issuance of the permit

[1:58:02] Trustee Elliott: would allow impacts to heritage sites or areas where there's high potential here we haven't done

[1:58:11] Trustee Elliott: that analysis and the dp frankly doesn't allow us to do that but you're right that's that is

[1:58:17] Trustee Elliott: a consideration because we don't have the tools to do that do we

[1:58:22] Voice 12: um can i uh regional planning

[1:58:28] Voice 12: manager jamrat um

[1:58:29] Voice 1: if if the trustees choose to deny permit do

[1:58:40] Voice 12: the justifications for denying

[1:58:42] Voice 12: me to be part of the resolution through

[1:58:47] Voice 2: the chair yes yeah

[1:58:49] Voice 12: trustees how would you like to proceed

[1:58:54] Voice 12: I

[1:59:02] Trustee Elliott: don't know, Lisa, I sort of hafted emotion there, but I don't know if you captured the

[1:59:06] Trustee Elliott: wording of the last, but, uh, so let me just do some writing and I'm just looking back

[1:59:13] Trustee Elliott: at the letter that, um, this name of first nation sent on February 27th, 2024, and was

[1:59:19] Trustee Elliott: in direct response to consideration of this very development permit application.

[1:59:23] Trustee Elliott: and they reference all of the sacred areas

[1:59:35] Trustee Elliott: and the deep archaeological valleys there.

[1:59:38] Trustee Elliott: And they state, as such, our consideration and deliberation

[1:59:42] Trustee Elliott: over how the proponent and referring agencies

[1:59:44] Trustee Elliott: seek to authorize and use and develop the land

[1:59:47] Trustee Elliott: is handled with sensitivity and we reserve the right

[1:59:50] Trustee Elliott: to take the appropriate time to make an informed decision.

[1:59:56] Trustee Elliott: Given that there's been zero attempt by the proponent

[1:59:59] Trustee Elliott: and to resolve the issue.

[2:00:00] Trustee Elliott: which is we have raised in all three referrals as it relates to the subject property,

[2:00:04] Trustee Elliott: Stenevuk is not in the position to provide consent and does not support the proposed project.

[2:00:09] Trustee Elliott: Significant concerns remain outstanding with the proposal and its potential impact on Stenevuk,

[2:00:15] Trustee Elliott: cultural heritage resources, practical implications on environmental and development effects on this village.

[2:00:23] Trustee Elliott: And just a note, the village that they are speaking of, I won't get into it,

[2:00:28] Trustee Elliott: but

[2:00:29] Voice 3: there

[2:00:31] Trustee Elliott: is nothing more important to Snenemoch I have heard from them in protection of their

[2:00:37] Trustee Elliott: village sites well

[2:00:38] Voice 12: that's why I was from the objective was to

[2:00:42] Voice 1: protect development I know

[2:00:44] Voice 1: it's a it's offensive to say that that is but interpretation today of this objective is is

[2:00:52] Voice 1: is what I'm encouraging you to think it's it's can be used in a different different context of

[2:01:03] Voice 1: what well what I know what some someone 2,000 years ago building something and doing things

[2:01:10] Voice 1: oh my gosh that's you're brilliant oh

[2:01:13] Voice 14: and I was thinking more of like the development that we are

[2:01:17] Voice 14: considering in our official community plan review um we're considering all sorts of

[2:01:25] Voice 14: development and some of that development will actually

[2:01:28] Trustee Elliott: be protection of places but that is a

[2:01:32] Trustee Elliott: very key point like development that happened before settlers came as the land was

[2:01:40] Trustee Elliott: used as a whole village was was false narrows a whole village five thousand people

[2:01:52] Trustee Elliott: climbing and hunting on the island and all up that slope. So the protection of that village,

[2:02:02] Trustee Elliott: which should be considered a development of the name of First Nation, should be protected

[2:02:09] Trustee Elliott: from hazards,

[2:02:13] Voice 3: which

[2:02:14] Trustee Elliott: is what our OCP says we must do. So thank you. That's a very significant piece.

[2:02:19] Trustee Elliott: then uh how

[2:02:26] Voice 12: would you like to proceed okay that's

[2:02:28] Voice 12: right do you

[2:02:45] Voice 1: do you want

[2:02:45] Voice 12: to i was going to say do

[2:02:47] Voice 1: we want to take a break and consider drafting through a lunch hour i know for all of you who

[2:02:52] Voice 1: would rather we keep on going um i want to also make sure we're thinking wisely and cautiously

[2:02:58] Voice 1: as we proceed with wording should we take a break or do you feel comfortable and

[2:03:06] Voice 1: we have a process for it i'm okay i

[2:03:09] Voice 14: do have a question now staff has provided alternatives

[2:03:13] Voice 14: as they always do which is helpful um but the alternative they've provided is that we request

[2:03:19] Voice 14: further information prior to making a decision on this and that we that it could be that we request

[2:03:27] Voice 14: that the applicant submit to us further information i don't know if that's possible in this case

[2:03:37] Voice 1: We're verifying with the regional time out of here. If you deny, you just have to provide the justifications within the resolution as to the reasoning that it doesn't meet the objective work and and

[2:03:52] Voice 12: Guidelines.

[2:04:46] Voice 12: Thanks for fingers.

[2:05:02] Voice 8: So,

[2:05:06] Voice 3: I'm not

[2:05:12] Voice 3: I just want to get the name to

[2:05:28] Trustee Elliott: the room, which the LTC considers is development that should

[2:05:33] Trustee Elliott: be protected.

[2:05:36] Voice 3: So

[2:05:44] Trustee Elliott: something like that the Gabriel Local Trust Committee considers that the objectives of

[2:05:48] Trustee Elliott: DP6 as outlined in the Gabriel OCP have not been met through this application as the development

[2:06:03] Trustee Elliott: development of neighboring and downslope residents and their properties, as well as Nenemuc First

[2:06:10] Trustee Elliott: Nations historical village Pleiat, which is on Falls Narrows, which the LTC considers

[2:06:28] Trustee Elliott: is development that should be protected, have not in fact been protected against natural

[2:06:33] Trustee Elliott: natural hazards due to slow instability or non-infactivity

[2:06:47] Voice 14: activities.

[2:06:53] Voice 14: Did you either

[2:07:00] Voice 12: share with RPM and Planner Bob so that they could look at the wording

[2:07:09] Voice 12: and perhaps help us or question us where we could clarify it?

[2:07:16] Voice 12: Sure, yeah. I can suggest a framework too if that's possible.

[2:07:21] Voice 12: Yeah, okay.

[2:07:23] Voice 12: You want to send your email out to them and let them take a look at that?

[2:07:27] Voice 12: Thank

[2:07:27] Voice 8: you for bearing with us. This is important. Email's been sent. I think the word you were

[2:08:04] Voice 8: going

[2:08:04] Voice 12: to put, I think there's something to be...

[2:08:08] Voice 3: I don't know.

[2:08:08] Voice 3: Oh, I didn't send it to you.

[2:08:09] Voice 3: No,

[2:08:10] Voice 12: no, that's all right. I can see your computer. You don't need to send it to me.

[2:08:15] Voice 12: I think it's going to have to open with

[2:08:21] Voice 1: a statement, but say...

[2:08:22] Voice 12: deny

[2:08:23] Voice 1: issuance. So I think that's the

[2:08:27] Voice 12: beginning part.

[2:08:29] Voice 12: And then it's for these reasons. Doesn't

[2:08:33] Voice 12: mean the objectives have not been met.

[2:08:56] Trustee Elliott: So is it the objectives of DP6 that have not been met?

[2:09:04] Voice 1: I'd say objective and guideline.

[2:09:06] Trustee Elliott: well the guide that's the question for me is the guidelines technically have been met because the

[2:09:13] Trustee Elliott: guidelines specify that geotech but

[2:09:15] Voice 12: true geotech support but you're disagreeing though that i'm

[2:09:19] Trustee Elliott: disagreeing that the objectives hasn't been yeah no i think that hopefully the guidelines are but

[2:09:23] Trustee Elliott: not the objective look to stuff for that question it's stupid that's not well well it is it's here

[2:09:35] Trustee Elliott: looking at it just in the meantime if anybody ever looks up the articles of the shale that

[2:09:54] Trustee Elliott: have written incredible historical accounts especially of the false arrows village it's

[2:10:03] Trustee Elliott: fascinating and the

[2:10:04] Voice 14: museum has them too which is great

[2:10:10] Voice 14: So it's

[2:10:14] Voice 3: G-L-E-L

[2:10:18] Trustee Elliott: -T-X-W.

[2:10:23] Trustee Elliott: Have

[2:10:26] Voice 5: staff received

[2:10:28] Voice 12: any kind of thinking away?

[2:10:30] Voice 5: Yeah, so one way to word it might be that the Rural Local Trust Committee

[2:10:36] Voice 5: denied development permit application GBDP 2021.2

[2:10:44] Voice 5: because the objective of the permit area six and if you realize which community plan has not been

[2:10:53] Voice 5: met and you have that development of neighboring and self-referencing their properties and some

[2:11:01] Voice 5: historical village the name of the village which

[2:11:07] Trustee Elliott: LTC considers his development that should be

[2:11:12] Trustee Elliott: protected or not in fact protected against hazards such as flooding and slope instability caused by

[2:11:17] Trustee Elliott: the activity, the tree-cutting activity, the tree-cutting.

[2:11:33] Voice 12: RPM, are you hearing us or have any additional advice?

[2:11:40] Voice 2: Through the chair, perhaps Lisa, our media administrator,

[2:11:46] Voice 2: could reread that draft.

[2:11:50] Voice 2: I believe we're missing an and somewhere,

[2:11:52] Voice 2: but it would be good for everyone to hear that again.

[2:11:55] Voice 2: i

[2:11:55] Voice 12: think our do you have the trustee elliot's been making some changes not so much you have

[2:12:02] Voice 12: the one okay you give me the pronunciation okay so

[2:12:05] Trustee Elliott: t-l-e clay and then colon l-t-x and then an

[2:12:11] Trustee Elliott: upper w l-t-x w how do you say it clay clay up i'll

[2:12:21] Voice 12: do my best

[2:12:24] Voice 12: that the gabriel island local trust committee denied development permit application gbdp

[2:12:30] Voice 12: 2021.1 because the objective of development permit area six escarpment areas in the gabriel

[2:12:37] Voice 12: official community plan have not been met as development of neighboring and downslope

[2:12:42] Voice 12: residents and their properties and synonyms historical village which the local trust committee

[2:12:54] Voice 12: considers this development that should be protected are not in fact protected against

[2:12:58] Voice 12: hazards such as flooding and slow instability caused by the tree cutting activity or the

[2:13:04] Voice 12: proposed tree cutting activity or just tree cutting activities just look to the planning

[2:13:15] Voice 12: I mean, Gemma, would it be proposed tree cutting activity

[2:13:18] Voice 12: or just a tree cutting activity, period?

[2:13:22] Voice 12: I guess it's just tree cutting activity.

[2:13:26] Voice 12: Any further advice from staff?

[2:13:36] Voice 12: Over to you, Gemma.

[2:13:38] Voice 2: Through the chair, I believe,

[2:13:41] Voice 2: as maybe reading it one more time,

[2:13:44] Voice 2: so that includes the element of the denial of the permit

[2:13:47] Voice 2: and the reason, the description of the OCP objective,

[2:13:52] Voice 2: objective development permit area six steep slopes and the reason is clear so those three elements

[2:13:58] Voice 2: um just making sure those are clearly in the motion

[2:14:03] Voice 12: either so read it again because it is

[2:14:08] Voice 12: missing that uh go go ahead read it again that the Gabriel Island local trust committee denied

[2:14:15] Voice 12: Denied Development Permit Application, GEDP-2021.1,

[2:14:21] Voice 12: because the objective of Development Permit Application

[2:14:24] Voice 12: Area 6, Preservation Areas,

[2:14:26] Voice 12: in the Gabriel official community plan has not been met,

[2:14:33] Voice 12: because development of neighboring and downslope residents

[2:14:38] Voice 12: and their properties, as the name of this historical village.

[2:14:45] Voice 12: Layak.

[2:14:45] Voice 12: Layak, which the local trust can be considered

[2:14:48] Voice 12: is development should be protected are not in fact protected against hazards such as flooding

[2:14:54] Voice 12: and slope instability caused by the tree cutting activity do we need the word that we don't know

[2:15:01] Voice 12: where

[2:15:02] Trustee Elliott: in front of tree cutting i would just ask that we say thus the name of the first nation's

[2:15:10] Trustee Elliott: historical village

[2:15:11] Trustee Elliott: that you need some kind of impersonation of.

[2:15:16] Voice 12: All right.

[2:15:17] Voice 12: RPM, Jenna, did that protect those items?

[2:15:21] Voice 2: Through the chair, I believe,

[2:15:23] Voice 2: just to confirm with Island Planner Bowe,

[2:15:27] Voice 2: the correct DPA 6 title.

[2:15:30] Voice 2: Is it steep slopes or steep escarpments?

[2:15:35] Voice 2: Escarpment areas.

[2:15:36] Voice 2: Thank you.

[2:15:37] Voice 2: And after the word protected, comma,

[2:15:41] Voice 2: I suggest an and so it could read the LTC considers is development should

[2:15:49] Voice 8: be protected

[2:15:51] Voice 2: and are not in fact protected against hazards such as flooding and slopes slope stability

[2:15:57] Voice 2: caused by the activity thank

[2:15:59] Voice 12: you all right so has that correction been made

[2:16:13] Voice 5: and are not

[2:16:16] Voice 5: and are not protected

[2:16:18] Voice 5: and

[2:16:19] Trustee Elliott: are not in fact

[2:16:21] Trustee Elliott: protected

[2:16:27] Voice 2: through the chair you may remove

[2:16:29] Voice 2: in fact that may not be

[2:16:31] Voice 2: needed as part of the resolution

[2:16:38] Trustee Elliott: it's actually a fact

[2:16:42] Voice 14: I don't think I would agree.

[2:16:46] Voice 14: Any

[2:16:47] Voice 1: further advice?

[2:16:48] Voice 1: Take your time.

[2:16:51] Voice 1: You think we've got

[2:16:53] Voice 12: the pieces?

[2:17:00] Voice 1: You think so?

[2:17:01] Voice 1: No, I'm sorry.

[2:17:02] Voice 5: No,

[2:17:03] Voice 1: I'm just looking at giving you both the opportunity to.

[2:17:06] Voice 5: Yeah.

[2:17:07] Voice 1: Okay.

[2:17:09] Voice 1: Trustee Elliott, do you want to make that motion?

[2:17:12] Trustee Elliott: Please.

[2:17:13] Trustee Elliott: I guess read it out one more time.

[2:17:15] Trustee Elliott: I move that the Gabriela Island Local Trust Committee deny GP, GB, GB, GB, I move that the Gabriela Local Trust Committee deny GP, DP 2021.1 because the objective of DP6 escarpment areas in the Gabriela OCP has not been met because development of neighboring and downslope residents on their properties

[2:17:43] Trustee Elliott: and the Snenebuk First Nation's historical village, Tlayat,

[2:17:48] Trustee Elliott: which the local trust committee considers is development that should be protected

[2:17:53] Trustee Elliott: and are not protected.

[2:17:55] Trustee Elliott: I don't agree with that and.

[2:17:57] Voice 12: And are not protected.

[2:17:59] Voice 12: No, that is correct.

[2:18:00] Trustee Elliott: Really?

[2:18:01] Trustee Elliott: Yeah.

[2:18:02] Trustee Elliott: Because development should are not protected against hazards such as flooding

[2:18:09] Trustee Elliott: and stoking.

[2:18:09] Trustee Elliott: Yeah, the end is not right.

[2:18:12] Trustee Elliott: that should be protected are not protected against hazards such as flooding and soap instability

[2:18:18] Trustee Elliott: caused by tree cutting activity all right just make sure

[2:18:23] Trustee Elliott: we're consistent lisa we're consistent

[2:18:25] Voice 1: okay is there a second to this motion seconded by trustee aids any discussion i

[2:18:35] Trustee Elliott: actually just

[2:18:36] Trustee Elliott: want to say thank you to residents and everybody for coming today to speak about this it's very

[2:18:42] Trustee Elliott: important that we hear from you and uh really appreciate any further discussion i'll call the

[2:18:53] Voice 12: vote then all those in favor that carries trustees i know this is a big moment well

[2:19:03] Trustee Elliott: i actually have

[2:19:04] Trustee Elliott: to make a statement as well this does not mean that tree cutting is prohibited on the property

[2:19:11] Trustee Elliott: this and and we should clarify for the community's expectations the issuance of dp6 is a tiny area

[2:19:23] Trustee Elliott: and it would have allowed cutting in that area but under our legislation we have no tools to

[2:19:33] Trustee Elliott: restrict tree cutting on anyone's property so we have had this discussion before and

[2:19:44] Trustee Elliott: just because this permit is not issued does not mean the landowner cannot cut trees outside of

[2:19:50] Trustee Elliott: that dp slope area and we'll be considering business later today related to protection

[2:19:57] Trustee Elliott: of cultural heritage sites but i can't stress enough that this doesn't necessarily mean that

[2:20:05] Trustee Elliott: there won't be tree cutting there's a map of this area in the ocp are

[2:20:11] Voice 12: you going to consider

[2:20:12] Voice 12: working i can't like to we shouldn't have a discussion right now um the question of

[2:20:17] Trustee Elliott: brokerage was raised and yeah we will have to consider that for sure for future work

[2:20:23] Trustee Elliott: um all right trustees do you want to take a break or keep going five

[2:20:28] Voice 1: minutes to one i'm not gonna

[2:20:30] Trustee Elliott: keep going do

[2:20:31] Voice 1: you want to keep going what is that yeah you're all right

[2:20:33] Trustee Elliott: i guess i'm trying to stop

[2:20:35] Trustee Elliott: staff are all right okay then and thank you everyone and um

[2:20:44] Trustee Elliott: forward here so the next item of business correspondence uh

[2:20:50] Voice 1: pieces of correspondence

[2:20:51] Voice 1: The first item is item 11.1, an email dated July 7th, 2025, from D. Elkington, writing

[2:21:00] Voice 1: jets flying over Gabriola Island, I can speak, on page 145 of the agenda package.

[2:21:10] Voice 1: Trustees, is there any action to take?

[2:21:13] Trustee Elliott: Yes.

[2:21:15] Trustee Elliott: i certainly want to raise um the consideration and discussion of

[2:21:26] Trustee Elliott: so i thought 11.1 i thought we saw this already last

[2:21:32] Trustee Elliott: this one's due july 7th okay so i i think we should raise all of them for discussion

[2:21:45] Trustee Elliott: So, if we can speak to the first one from Don Elkington.

[2:22:07] Trustee Elliott: So the letter writer is asking for a letter to the federal authorities as well as the

[2:22:13] Trustee Elliott: Nanaimo Airport and the RDN to show concern.

[2:22:20] Trustee Elliott: The

[2:22:21] Voice 14: reason it sounds familiar, Dr. D'Elia, is because we did deal with this even in a

[2:22:26] Voice 14: previous term.

[2:22:27] Voice 14: I'm not sure you missed that one.

[2:22:28] Trustee Elliott: Mr. Director, Craig was still here because I know that the Nanaimo Airport has increased its traffic specifically in Nanaimo to Toronto flights and the flight paths were changed and I vaguely remember seeing the maps that were redone.

[2:22:52] Trustee Elliott: It

[2:22:53] Voice 1: would be NAV Canada. That would be the

[2:22:58] Voice 14: party.

[2:23:02] Voice 14: And the Nanaimo Airport Authority also

[2:23:04] Trustee Elliott: was involved at that time.

[2:23:09] Voice 8: I think,

[2:23:18] Voice 1: I know my experience in North Pender with helicopter movement,

[2:23:23] Voice 1: that there was little that the local trust committee has for,

[2:23:28] Voice 1: you can have objectives in your OCP.

[2:23:30] Voice 1: Do you have the authority to regulate

[2:23:34] Voice 8: them

[2:23:35] Voice 1: and believe the answer is no, you do not.

[2:23:38] Voice 14: You can regulate noise sensitive areas for active activities on the land base, but the

[2:23:45] Voice 14: airspace is the only option.

[2:23:49] Trustee Elliott: Depends from why they are excluded from noise modeling, is there are no proposed changes

[2:23:53] Trustee Elliott: procedures so yeah it's it is concerning um that's not i mean you can write a letter of

[2:24:12] Trustee Elliott: i have a suggestion sir would you

[2:24:14] Trustee Elliott: like a job letter from

[2:24:15] Voice 14: director craig and this local test

[2:24:18] Voice 14: committee because we could write we could write to now canada but we could also write to the

[2:24:25] Voice 14: Nanaimo airport authority and ask them about the recent shift in flight

[2:24:31] Voice 14: centers. Is

[2:24:33] Voice 14: it really necessary? That means it probably is but... Well something

[2:24:39] Trustee Elliott: seems to have changed in the last few months. So I think we could get

[2:24:44] Trustee Elliott: some clarity. Is this an established pattern now and there's nothing that can

[2:24:53] Trustee Elliott: can be done, whereas are they engaging the public?

[2:24:58] Trustee Elliott: This newspaper article says that NAV Canada

[2:25:01] Trustee Elliott: is undertaking public consultation

[2:25:04] Trustee Elliott: to ensure that communities can learn about the proposal

[2:25:06] Trustee Elliott: and provide input on the proposed changes.

[2:25:09] Trustee Elliott: Should I see when that was, that was 2023.

[2:25:15] Trustee Elliott: So does the Gabriel Local Trust Committee

[2:25:17] Trustee Elliott: want to be part of that public consultation

[2:25:21] Trustee Elliott: and provide input on the proposed changes?

[2:25:23] Trustee Elliott: I think that would be a productive path.

[2:25:28] Voice 14: How do you wish to proceed?

[2:25:30] Voice 14: Could we ask Director Craig if she would like to write a joint letter?

[2:25:34] Voice 14: I'm

[2:25:41] Trustee Elliott: just trying to see what the public engagement period is.

[2:25:48] Trustee Elliott: Continue until February 3rd.

[2:25:56] Trustee Elliott: Okay, so.

[2:25:57] Trustee Elliott: It's done.

[2:25:58] Trustee Elliott: It's done.

[2:25:59] Trustee Elliott: Right.

[2:26:01] Trustee Elliott: Okay, so requesting if Director Craig could work with us on a joint advocacy letter regarding proposed changes to the flight path directly over Gabriel Island to NAV Canada.

[2:26:23] Trustee Elliott: Yeah, yeah.

[2:26:24] Voice 14: And copies to the Nanaimo Airport Committee, I think as well.

[2:26:28] Voice 3: Okay. Do

[2:26:31] Trustee Elliott: you want to make that motion?

[2:26:32] Voice 14: I move that Gabriel Island Local

[2:26:34] Trustee Elliott: Trust Committee request staff to

[2:26:40] Voice 14: ask Director Craig, RDN Director

[2:26:45] Voice 14: Craig, to, if she's willing to sign a joint letter.

[2:27:02] Trustee Elliott: To Nav Canada.

[2:27:03] Trustee Elliott: To NAB Canada and Nanaimo Airport Authority concerns,

[2:27:17] Voice 14: state realtor residents stating concerns from state realtor residents regarding flight path directly over Gibraltar Island.

[2:27:33] Voice 14: Is

[2:27:41] Voice 3: concerns enough?

[2:27:45] Trustee Elliott: Noise concerns.

[2:27:46] Voice 3: Yeah, it

[2:27:47] Trustee Elliott: sounds very...

[2:27:48] Trustee Elliott: Disturbance or...

[2:27:49] Trustee Elliott: Noise disruption due to airspace changes in airport expansions.

[2:27:53] Voice 14: Certainly the low altitude is a bit scary when you're seeing them fly so close to the island, but you know, that's how they fly.

[2:28:03] Voice 14: Changes.

[2:28:05] Trustee Elliott: So I would add in a noise concern. Sending concerns from Gabriel residence because of changes to flight paths directly over Gabriel Island and increased noise disruption.

[2:28:18] Trustee Elliott: Yeah. And can

[2:28:22] Trustee Elliott: we change the wording to invite Director Craig to sign a joint letter to NAF Canada copied to Nanaimo Airport Authority with concerns from Gabriela residents because of changes to flight paths directly over Gabriela Island and increased flights with disruption?

[2:28:43] Trustee Elliott: option. Yeah, that's good. I don't know about that. Yes. You

[2:28:48] Voice 5: want to just indicate a time of letter from the LTC from the

[2:28:51] Voice 5: chair of the trust committee or from the chair of the chairs?

[2:28:54] Voice 5: Yeah.

[2:28:55] Voice 10: Okay. Letter from the chair from

[2:29:02] Trustee Elliott: the GB LTC chair to

[2:29:06] Trustee Elliott: now to Canada. She's sending you that her version. Well, at least

[2:29:22] Trustee Elliott: Lisa got it.

[2:29:24] Trustee Elliott: Lisa's very good.

[2:29:28] Trustee Elliott: All right.

[2:29:31] Trustee Elliott: Who's going to make that motion?

[2:29:34] Trustee Elliott: Maybe I can make it,

[2:29:35] Voice 14: but I'll have to wait until it's bigger.

[2:29:38] Voice 11: Until it's

[2:29:39] Voice 14: perfectly set.

[2:29:42] Voice 14: I'm old.

[2:29:47] Trustee Elliott: I move that.

[2:30:00] Voice 14: the gabriella island local trust committee invite regional director of nanaimo director craig

[2:30:06] Voice 14: to sign a joint letter from the gabriella local trust committee chair to nav canada copied to

[2:30:12] Voice 14: nanaimo airport authority stating concerns from gabriella residents because of changes to flight

[2:30:22] Voice 14: cats directly over gabriel and increased noise

[2:30:27] Trustee Elliott: disruption is there a

[2:30:31] Voice 12: second to that motion

[2:30:31] Voice 12: seconded by Trustee Elliott.

[2:30:34] Voice 12: Any discussion?

[2:30:36] Voice 12: I'll call the vote. All those in favor?

[2:30:39] Voice 1: That carries.

[2:30:41] Voice 1: Okay, the next piece of correspondence is

[2:30:43] Voice 1: item 11.2, the letter dated

[2:30:46] Voice 1: July 17th.

[2:30:48] Voice 3: Bailey, Board Chair

[2:30:50] Voice 1: and I know it lays in the Public

[2:30:52] Voice 1: School Board of Education regarding

[2:30:54] Voice 1: average rate.

[2:30:55] Voice 12: Page 146.

[2:30:58] Voice 12: Yes.

[2:31:00] Voice 12: This was a

[2:31:01] Voice 12: specific request for a letter of support,

[2:31:03] Trustee Elliott: I believe.

[2:31:04] Trustee Elliott: It's funding for the new DSS authority.

[2:31:10] Voice 12: We should provide letter of support.

[2:31:12] Trustee Elliott: Absolutely.

[2:31:16] Trustee Elliott: DSS is a bit of a perilous state.

[2:31:20] Trustee Elliott: So this is going to be, again, similar.

[2:31:22] Trustee Elliott: I'm requesting a letter from the chair.

[2:31:24] Trustee Elliott: Yeah.

[2:31:26] Trustee Elliott: A letter of support.

[2:31:29] Voice 8: Support the

[2:31:36] Trustee Elliott: LTC chair and the letter of support.

[2:31:45] Trustee Elliott: Who is this to?

[2:31:47] Trustee Elliott: To Naomi Bailey, the chair of the Ministry of Education.

[2:31:53] Trustee Elliott: Do we want to write it to Naomi Bailey,

[2:31:56] Trustee Elliott: or do we want to write it directly to the ministry?

[2:31:59] Trustee Elliott: I think

[2:32:00] Voice 1: it's the Ministry of Education and Ministry of Infrastructure for a new

[2:32:08] Voice 12: school.

[2:32:12] Voice 12: We're reaching out to the regional government, right, holders and

[2:32:15] Voice 1: other community members to advocate for including funding for the next provincial budget.

[2:32:20] Voice 1: So yes, it would be probably to both of those ministers of education and infrastructure requesting budget or

[2:32:30] Trustee Elliott: supporting.

[2:32:32] Voice 1: And

[2:32:33] Trustee Elliott: then do we copy Naomi Bailey? Absolutely.

[2:32:35] Trustee Elliott: So they wrote, so the Gabriel and Logan Trust Committee will request the chair write a letter of support for funding and the next provincial budget for a new build of Nanaimo District Secondary School to the Ministry of Education and Ministry of Infrastructure,

[2:32:52] Trustee Elliott: copied to Board Chair of Nanaimo Lady Smith Public School Board of Education to the Board Chair.

[2:33:06] Trustee Elliott: Is that what we want? More letters.

[2:33:13] Trustee Elliott: That's both my children who graduated from that aging school.

[2:33:18] Trustee Elliott: Alright, who would like to make that motion?

[2:33:22] Trustee Elliott: I move that the Gabriel Aloka Trust Committee request the Chair write a letter of support for funding in the next Provincial Budget for a new build of Nanaimo District Secondary School and DSS to the Ministry of Education and Infrastructure,

[2:33:40] Trustee Elliott: coffee to the board chair of Nanaimo

[2:33:42] Trustee Elliott: Lady Smith Public Schools for Youth Education.

[2:33:45] Trustee Elliott: Is there a second?

[2:33:46] Trustee Elliott: Second that.

[2:33:46] Voice 3: Second

[2:33:46] Trustee Elliott: by Trustee Yates. Any discussion?

[2:33:48] Trustee Elliott: They need a new building.

[2:33:50] Voice 6: There

[2:33:50] Trustee Elliott: is no question about it.

[2:33:52] Trustee Elliott: All right. Well, then I'll call the vote. All

[2:33:53] Voice 1: those in favor?

[2:33:54] Voice 1: That's cool.

[2:33:55] Voice 1: And that carries.

[2:33:56] Voice 1: All right. The third thing,

[2:33:58] Voice 1: the third piece of correspondence.

[2:34:02] Voice 1: Yay!

[2:34:02] Voice 8: Sorry.

[2:34:04] Voice 1: 11.3 is the email dated July 21st

[2:34:07] Voice 1: from Mudge Island Community Association

[2:34:09] Voice 1: Association regarding much island bylaw survey results uh so trustees what would you like to do

[2:34:17] Voice 1: with this

[2:34:17] Trustee Elliott: correspondence well first of all thank Micah for again engaging with your community and

[2:34:27] Trustee Elliott: doing such a substantial um it looks like this was a really well um articulated survey there

[2:34:41] Trustee Elliott: There is a lot of background material that was really interesting, and I appreciated

[2:34:47] Trustee Elliott: reading the detailed summary.

[2:34:51] Trustee Elliott: So MICA is, well, based on the results of the survey, the most important issues to the

[2:35:00] Trustee Elliott: community, and this is a consideration of a minor project to amend the targeted project

[2:35:05] Trustee Elliott: to amend the much-landed bylaw, structures in the setback from the sea, restrictive definition

[2:35:10] Trustee Elliott: initiative structures, moorage buoys, lot coverage, setbacks from the sea, commercial

[2:35:16] Trustee Elliott: vehicles and heavy equipment, tents, trailers and RVs, temporary storage of goods, supplies,

[2:35:20] Trustee Elliott: and short-term workers accommodation. So there's a lot there, but it does help to sort of frame

[2:35:31] Trustee Elliott: the scope of a potential LUV review. It's not a comprehensive review, it would be a targeted one.

[2:35:39] Trustee Elliott: and so what i would request is that this be considered by the regional planning manager

[2:35:48] Trustee Elliott: to support a future minor project as a targeted amendment to the lunch lub

[2:35:57] Trustee Elliott: because i think it it really is up to our regional county management staff to

[2:36:04] Trustee Elliott: figure out where all these projects fit. This should certainly be, you know, in a file that

[2:36:12] Trustee Elliott: is where we're collecting information to support a project. I don't know if we can turn this

[2:36:22] Trustee Elliott: into a full project today without staff analysis about whether they, when this could be done

[2:36:29] Trustee Elliott: and what resources are available. Do we still have Arby and Debra on the line?

[2:36:34] Trustee Elliott: Yes, we do.

[2:36:38] Trustee Elliott: Hi, Renee.

[2:36:42] Voice 2: Through the chair, the LTC can identify this project through a resolution to bring back a project charter.

[2:36:53] Voice 2: And we can, through that resolution, staff can do the work and I can be a part of that to look at what would be required,

[2:37:01] Voice 2: the time frame and any estimated budget for this particular item.

[2:37:09] Voice 2: It's currently captured in your future projects list under number two.

[2:37:13] Voice 2: That's on page 172 of the agenda.

[2:37:16] Voice 2: So you could, through a resolution, ask that staff bring back a project charter

[2:37:22] Voice 2: and to be clear what the targeted amendments would be.

[2:37:26] Voice 2: If, for example, the LTC wants to use the survey and identify at this early juncture, if there would be some limited engagement, we can craft a project charter to bring back with you with that in mind.

[2:37:43] Voice 2: And that would identify resources and timeframe.

[2:37:47] Trustee Elliott: All right.

[2:37:48] Trustee Elliott: So question.

[2:37:50] Trustee Elliott: We have a new business item which we haven't discussed yet of that I would like to have discussion on as well, which could turn into a minor project or could be folded into the existing MCP review.

[2:38:07] Trustee Elliott: view. So I'm not sure if I can direct or I would be ready to direct this be a minor project.

[2:38:20] Trustee Elliott: And I would like to comment on that too.

[2:38:23] Voice 14: Like, first of all, this is amazing work.

[2:38:25] Voice 14: I love what you've done. And it will be useful. There's no question about it. However, I do feel

[2:38:31] Voice 14: that there are a couple of more pressing issues that will require staff time and money for the

[2:38:38] Voice 14: whole trust area and I'm glad that we already have some of the bylaw enforcement and investigation

[2:38:48] Voice 14: activities. We put those mostly into abeyance at your request and I'm glad we've done that

[2:38:54] Voice 14: because that's taken care of some of the urgent issues that Long Island has. This is essential

[2:39:00] Voice 14: It's essential information for us to be working on a targeted OCP project.

[2:39:17] Trustee Elliott: However, there's a project that Trustee Elliott is just mentioning,

[2:39:22] Voice 14: but there's another one

[2:39:23] Voice 14: that has been on my mind since the beginning of this term, and that is ensuring that we

[2:39:29] Voice 14: get development permit area folded into our OCP review and land use bylaw review because as it

[2:39:38] Voice 14: is right now we've been told we may only have funding to do maybe two development permit area

[2:39:45] Voice 14: updates. I don't know if that will hold throughout this whole project but I have stated since the

[2:39:51] Voice 14: very beginning of my term here that the most important work we can do as far as the preserve

[2:40:00] Voice 14: and protect mandate is to get development permit areas in place and get the ones that we have that

[2:40:08] Voice 14: are so outdated that they cause us grief every time we get an application in front of us oh the

[2:40:15] Voice 14: development permit isn't good enough oh it's so outdated it doesn't work anymore oh it isn't

[2:40:19] Voice 14: actually there so i do not want to see um i don't want to see the possibility of development permit

[2:40:28] Voice 14: areas shoved off for years in place of this issue here which i know is urgent for you i really do

[2:40:38] Voice 14: get that and you've done great work on this but i also feel that you are doing good work in your

[2:40:44] Voice 14: a community that will hold you for a little while. In fact, one issue on here that I'm concerned

[2:40:52] Voice 14: about is access maybe through Davidson Bay for your community, like a public dot space. That

[2:41:00] Voice 14: concerns me almost more than anything for Mudge Island. I really worry about how you're going to

[2:41:06] Voice 14: get that and what agencies we can work with to get that for you. So this is not to diminish your

[2:41:15] Voice 14: are working anyway i really appreciate it but i know um in the larger gabriel local past area

[2:41:23] Voice 14: picture there are a couple of issues that

[2:41:28] Voice 1: are urgent um do you want to table this until after

[2:41:33] Voice 1: you discuss the other items that you didn't want to potentially consider yeah

[2:41:37] Trustee Elliott: thank you chair

[2:41:39] Trustee Elliott: because it's it really is about resources it's it to me the question of um the other item on our

[2:41:47] Trustee Elliott: future projects list the first one whether that can be considered as part of the ocp review and

[2:41:55] Trustee Elliott: there's you know an amendment to the charter and then we can have another minor project because we

[2:42:00] Trustee Elliott: can only have one minor project um so that is my hope but the reality of we need to hear from

[2:42:07] Trustee Elliott: staff about the reality of resources and who will do the work so I feel like we can't answer that

[2:42:15] Trustee Elliott: question quite yet so could we table it until after consideration of the business can we take

[2:42:23] Voice 1: general consent this item until after we discuss the two new items in the business yeah

[2:42:29] Voice 8: I'll

[2:42:29] Voice 1: be back to this in a moment

[2:42:32] Voice 1: yeah okay so then we'll proceed on to new business

[2:42:41] Voice 1: first item was the consideration of a minor project forward to you

[2:42:45] Voice 12: trustee elliott yeah

[2:42:48] Trustee Elliott: so thank you chair so this is a very um sensitive issue and yet one that we need to address and it's

[2:43:06] Trustee Elliott: within our authority as the local trust committee to consider zoning that's in place and specifically

[2:43:18] Trustee Elliott: zoning that allows density in heritage areas and areas of known archaeological significance.

[2:43:28] Trustee Elliott: So I apologize for not bringing this as new business before, but I was asking a lot of

[2:43:35] Trustee Elliott: questions um staff and um really looking at our authority as a local trust committee specifically

[2:43:48] Trustee Elliott: with regard to um existing zoning and specifically subdivision potential on heritage areas and non

[2:44:02] Trustee Elliott: archaeological heritage areas we have given staff direction to provide options and potential

[2:44:11] Trustee Elliott: consequences to the removal of subdivision potential to support the gabriel official

[2:44:16] Trustee Elliott: community land project discussion on growth management so this is actually a discussion

[2:44:21] Trustee Elliott: this summer we've asked staff for um to engage with our community on the question of what kind

[2:44:31] Trustee Elliott: of growth does the community want to see what kind of growth do we need to scale back or remove

[2:44:39] Trustee Elliott: because it is harmful and so the latent potential densities through subdivision the properties on

[2:44:49] Trustee Elliott: gabriel island that are still have the potential to be subdivided including specifically pid003134806

[2:45:02] Trustee Elliott: which is the parcel um that we just saw a development permit application come forward for

[2:45:10] Trustee Elliott: this is an active question for our community do we want to remove subdivision potential

[2:45:14] Trustee Elliott: we haven't yet engaged on the question but my thought is we really need to prioritize this

[2:45:27] Trustee Elliott: because of the critical nature of, or sorry, I should say the imminent harm to heritage areas

[2:45:40] Trustee Elliott: due to that latent subdivision potential. So I had three motions to propose if we want to

[2:45:55] Trustee Elliott: consider them. So maybe I'll just propose the first one we can debate. Before you do that,

[2:46:01] Trustee Elliott: just you know looking

[2:46:02] Voice 14: at this myself and thinking that this is kind of an essential part of our ocp

[2:46:08] Voice 14: review so i sort of don't see it as a separate project but i see it as a very essential project

[2:46:15] Voice 14: um but i do see it as part of our ocp review because this is where you ask the public

[2:46:19] Voice 14: where should the densities be how can we transfer densities from one area to another yeah

[2:46:26] Voice 6: I

[2:46:27] Voice 14: don't see it as necessarily a statement, but it

[2:46:29] Trustee Elliott: does definitely require staff attention and time.

[2:46:33] Trustee Elliott: And a question for RPM Gemara, for me, would be, if this isn't made into a minor project, but the LTC gives direction to prioritize the element of the OCP review that would consider rezoning densities in heritage areas,

[2:46:52] Trustee Elliott: is could that then form part of our the scope of our ocp review it actually is in the scope

[2:47:00] Trustee Elliott: but it would be giving direction to prioritize this aspect of the ocp review

[2:47:05] Trustee Elliott: which we already gave direction to staff to do i see me

[2:47:08] Trustee Elliott: i'm sorry

[2:47:09] Voice 11: pictures up

[2:47:13] Voice 1: so that usually means she's ready to talk

[2:47:16] Voice 1: all right yes her hands up now too thank you

[2:47:20] Voice 1: through the

[2:47:22] Voice 2: chair thank you um i would um call upon island planner chadwick who is your lead

[2:47:29] Voice 2: planner for the major project that you're working on for gabriola she can confirm that this is part

[2:47:35] Voice 2: of the scope um of work that's being done and you can identify where and when you would like to see

[2:47:45] Voice 2: this work done and she can confirm that through the work plan that's underway and

[2:47:51] Voice 1: i see planner

[2:47:51] Voice 1: chadwick is on the call or at least listening in i

[2:47:57] Voice 2: did give her a cue so she may um just have

[2:48:02] Voice 2: stepped away from her

[2:48:03] Voice 11: just stepped away um

[2:48:04] Voice 5: that is something that we're working on engagement

[2:48:09] Voice 5: materials related to that question of subdivision and do you want to continue to allow supervision

[2:48:16] Voice 5: is currently permitted or is there another option you want to consider and so that is

[2:48:22] Voice 5: that is currently part of the project and something that is that's the stage we're at

[2:48:29] Voice 5: as well so I have an engagement session coming on to November 14th

[2:48:35] Voice 12: that will be one of the

[2:48:37] Voice 12: topics.

[2:48:38] Voice 3: Adding

[2:48:39] Voice 12: the question of heritage cultural

[2:48:41] Voice 1: protection of current oh would

[2:48:44] Voice 1: that be a specific question

[2:48:45] Voice 1: So it's removing that potential for a number of reasons.

[2:48:50] Voice 1: I think the question is, could we include cultural heritage protection

[2:48:54] Voice 1: as one of those reasons?

[2:48:56] Voice 1: Is that what I'm understanding?

[2:48:59] Voice 14: Yeah.

[2:48:59] Voice 14: How could we not?

[2:49:02] Voice 5: And this is also baked into the OCP project currently,

[2:49:06] Voice 5: is that it's cultural heritage,

[2:49:10] Voice 5: and we are engaging with the nation staff currently,

[2:49:14] Voice 5: currently and that's all I mean all of that is all related in terms of your OCP policies and

[2:49:21] Voice 5: how they treat for how you know cultural heritage is considered and if that's relevant that that

[2:49:27] Voice 5: subdivision to cultural heritage then I think that's all that all fits together okay so we

[2:49:33] Voice 5: don't

[2:49:33] Voice 1: need a resolution then to

[2:49:35] Voice 5: do that I don't think so no that's good news as far as I mentioned

[2:49:41] Voice 5: that you you're going to your community about subdivision potential and what other options

[2:49:46] Voice 5: there are to continue to support that or or adjust it in some way the chance of the n3s

[2:49:52] Voice 5: remove those entities subdivision yeah that's all yes

[2:49:57] Trustee Elliott: well it's not all because we have a very

[2:50:01] Trustee Elliott: specific there's a very specific lot with subdivision potential with an active multi

[2:50:08] Trustee Elliott: application and what my proposed resolution was to report back on options

[2:50:18] Trustee Elliott: to transfer or remove densities from heritage areas specifically from that

[2:50:24] Trustee Elliott: lot and I don't know if we need to give additional direction but I think there's

[2:50:31] Trustee Elliott: some to expedite it no it's not expedited the implications of rezoning a lot that is

[2:50:40] Trustee Elliott: has an active application with moti that is a question that i think needs some work done

[2:50:48] Voice 5: but

[2:50:49] Trustee Elliott: if it could be done

[2:50:51] Trustee Elliott: yeah

[2:50:52] Voice 5: that does sound like a specific question that's not i mean and it's also it leads to

[2:50:57] Voice 5: donate which is not the and that is not where you're at with your OCP project you're still at

[2:51:01] Voice 5: that OCP drafting stage with the land use by law to follow and so um that yeah that is a separate

[2:51:08] Voice 5: um to to rezone a parcel or a number of parcels uh at this stage would be a separate

[2:51:16] Voice 5: profit that could be an out later right after you have your OCP in place until you're landing

[2:51:21] Voice 5: I mean, it's quite a lot, but you

[2:51:23] Voice 5: have to take those vision regulations there based on that OCP policies that you would have in it.

[2:51:30] Voice 5: But that's currently kind of the process, but to do it in a different way where you're immediately looking at rezoning and under-parcels, I think that's a different.

[2:51:43] Trustee Elliott: Yeah. So I guess it's a question to the LTC.

[2:51:47] Trustee Elliott: see is is this well here's my question um

[2:51:52] Voice 14: what i'm thinking are we wanting to ask are we wanting

[2:51:56] Voice 14: to get a legal opinion at this point right now on the merits and the risk of rezoning that parcel

[2:52:03] Voice 14: maybe we should do that first and that is a specific request right it

[2:52:07] Voice 1: sounds like as part

[2:52:08] Voice 1: of the general question including cultural heritage it's a general question can likely

[2:52:14] Voice 1: likely occur as part of the project.

[2:52:15] Voice 1: Without any direction, this would be a specific request

[2:52:18] Voice 1: for advice.

[2:52:22] Voice 3: Would you like me to make that motion?

[2:52:24] Voice 3: Or would you like to make that motion?

[2:52:28] Voice 8: Yeah,

[2:52:29] Voice 3: I think we

[2:52:33] Trustee Elliott: will need that eventually.

[2:52:35] Trustee Elliott: I saw that it's a bit sooner than we

[2:52:40] Trustee Elliott: haven't given direction or signaled

[2:52:42] Trustee Elliott: that the LTC intends to move in that direction,

[2:52:46] Trustee Elliott: like getting a legal opinion is a bit

[2:52:48] Trustee Elliott: preemptive

[2:52:49] Trustee Elliott: I would actually want to hear

[2:52:53] Trustee Elliott: if the LTC

[2:52:54] Trustee Elliott: wishes to specifically

[2:52:57] Trustee Elliott: move on that aspect

[2:52:59] Trustee Elliott: of

[2:53:00] Trustee Elliott: consideration of subdivision potential

[2:53:03] Trustee Elliott: I think it is a separate

[2:53:05] Trustee Elliott: I think it's

[2:53:07] Trustee Elliott: specific this area

[2:53:09] Trustee Elliott: that has such

[2:53:11] Trustee Elliott: high heritage

[2:53:13] Trustee Elliott: and archaeological

[2:53:17] Trustee Elliott: and let's be considered there is a timeliness to this because there's a location right now.

[2:53:23] Trustee Elliott: So my opinion would be yes, I'm very interested in

[2:53:27] Voice 14: doing that. But I would not want to go

[2:53:37] Voice 14: over and above what the OCP generally the work that we're doing and I know just from talking

[2:53:48] Voice 14: to the public over the past year that people are very interested in moving subdivision potential

[2:53:53] Voice 14: potential from one area to another.

[2:53:56] Voice 14: So that's good.

[2:53:57] Voice 14: That's part of our general OCP review.

[2:54:02] Voice 14: But this particular case is quite specific,

[2:54:05] Voice 14: and there is a certain urgency to it.

[2:54:08] Voice 14: But I wouldn't want to move on it without a legal opinion.

[2:54:15] Voice 14: Maybe staff advice would be very useful right now.

[2:54:20] Voice 14: Yes.

[2:54:21] Voice 5: Well, yes, you can.

[2:54:23] Voice 5: If you'd like, you can just direct us to give advice on your questions, and perhaps

[2:54:31] indicate the budget that comes with it, and

[2:54:35] Voice 4: we'll have to see how to

[2:54:38] Voice 11: calculate the budget.

[2:54:41] Trustee Elliott: Yeah, and I do think asking staff to specifically report back on options to transfer or remove

[2:54:52] Trustee Elliott: move densities from heritage areas, specifically from this area, it is a bit of a focused piece

[2:55:03] Trustee Elliott: of the lower drip consideration of subdivision potential. I

[2:55:08] Trustee Elliott: would want to see both a report

[2:55:11] Trustee Elliott: from staff on here are all the different ways that a rezoning might be considered, because

[2:55:21] Trustee Elliott: there's a number of tools we've talked about heritage revitalization agreement transfer of

[2:55:27] Trustee Elliott: densities does the park that was given as a community amenity need to be revisited there

[2:55:35] Trustee Elliott: would be a number of options specifically with this file and a legal opinion on the merits and

[2:55:43] Trustee Elliott: and the risks associated with that.

[2:55:47] Voice 12: I saw you took your,

[2:55:51] Voice 1: is there anything you wanted to add on this conversation?

[2:55:56] Voice 2: Through the chair, I think Planner Bough

[2:55:59] Voice 2: has given some good staff suggestions and some advice.

[2:56:05] Voice 2: I think it would be good to also be clear

[2:56:09] Voice 2: on what the questions are related to

[2:56:12] Voice 2: that we would seek legal advice on

[2:56:14] Voice 2: and what would be for staff to research and come back to you with.

[2:56:19] Voice 2: If there is legal advice that exists on the nature of your questions,

[2:56:24] Voice 2: we would also follow up with the LTC on that as well.

[2:56:30] Voice 3: All right, trustees.

[2:56:36] Trustee Elliott: I'd be prepared

[2:56:37] Voice 14: to make a motion regarding legal advice

[2:56:40] Voice 14: because as I previously mentioned,

[2:56:43] Voice 14: I'm not comfortable moving ahead with specific

[2:56:47] Voice 14: requests until we have that advice

[2:56:51] Voice 14: and I'm hoping that the Gabriel Island Local Trust Committee legal

[2:56:55] Voice 14: budget could be applied to that.

[2:57:07] Trustee Elliott: So on the question of getting a legal opinion

[2:57:11] Trustee Elliott: the language that we specifically need to use

[2:57:15] Trustee Elliott: do you think it needs to be more than

[2:57:18] Trustee Elliott: than a legal opinion on the merits and risks of rezoning ex-parcel.

[2:57:25] Trustee Elliott: Like we're asking at a moment in time at this particular stage,

[2:57:31] Trustee Elliott: what does legal counsel have to say about the merits, potential,

[2:57:38] Trustee Elliott: and the risks associated with it?

[2:57:41] Trustee Elliott: I'm not sure what other questions to ask.

[2:57:49] Voice 2: I'm happy to defer to Planner Bao first. He was jumping in.

[2:57:57] Voice 5: One clarity would be what is the result? Is it to, you know, what's being considered specifically?

[2:58:08] Voice 5: And then there you may have risks, but that may lead to some other questions or points

[2:58:16] Voice 5: that you could be clarified to, or particular questions, but that's one thing, what is rezoning

[2:58:22] Voice 5: to and where, and then perhaps there's some context with the location that could be taken

[2:58:35] Voice 5: into account as well.

[2:58:39] Trustee Elliott: yeah and that's so going back to requesting staff to explore the options i do think that

[2:58:52] Trustee Elliott: there is a number of ways it could be approached and then based on the options that come back

[2:58:59] Trustee Elliott: um if we like the ltc can then say we'd like to go in this direction and based on that direction

[2:59:06] Trustee Elliott: now we can seek legal advice on the implications or the choice between options or the choice

[2:59:14] Voice 14: I think

[2:59:15] Trustee Elliott: we still need to see some options because there's a number of rezoning

[2:59:21] Trustee Elliott: extinguishing densities transferring densities to another area

[2:59:27] Trustee Elliott: potential to return portions of the community amenity that was

[2:59:36] Trustee Elliott: given to secure the out allotment of those 49 densities like there's a lot of different

[2:59:46] Trustee Elliott: ways that that could be approached it's not it is rezoning to what well I think we need

[2:59:51] Trustee Elliott: to see some options before we ask for

[2:59:56] Voice 14: legal yeah I think you're right because we won't

[2:59:58] Voice 14: know what we want to be zoned in.

[3:00:00] Voice 14: We know what we want to use them from, but we wouldn't know what to accept. I think you're right, we don't get it.

[3:00:07] Voice 5: So one option could be to see staff, or to have staff report back on options to

[3:00:14] Voice 5: reasonable and more pretty to accomplish what it is you're hoping to accomplish.

[3:00:18] Voice 5: I think it's

[3:00:19] Voice 1: protecting the cultural heritage.

[3:00:21] Trustee Elliott: Transfer or remove densities from heritage areas.

[3:00:24] Trustee Elliott: Yeah, my original motion was that the Gabriel Local Trust Committee request staff report back on options

[3:00:28] Trustee Elliott: to transfer or remove densities from heritage areas,

[3:00:32] Trustee Elliott: including non-archaeological heritage sites,

[3:00:35] Trustee Elliott: specifically from PID 003-134-806.

[3:00:41] Voice 8: That parcel.

[3:00:42] Trustee Elliott: Make that motion. I'll second it.

[3:00:45] Trustee Elliott: I mean, does that

[3:00:46] Voice 12: sound okay or specific enough?

[3:00:55] Voice 12: I think so.

[3:00:59] We

[3:01:01] Voice 5: would come back with a report with options

[3:01:06] Voice 5: to remove densities from that particular property.

[3:01:10] Voice 8: Alright, then

[3:01:11] Voice 12: we'll transfer

[3:01:12] Trustee Elliott: orders.

[3:01:14] Voice 12: Would you like to make that motion? Yes, please.

[3:01:18] Voice 12: Proceed.

[3:01:19] Trustee Elliott: You're going to have to probably read that out loud. Okay. I move that the Gabriel

[3:01:22] Trustee Elliott: Local Trust Committee request that staff report back on options to transfer or

[3:01:26] Trustee Elliott: remove densities from heritage areas, including non-archaeological

[3:01:30] Trustee Elliott: heritage sites, specifically from

[3:01:34] Trustee Elliott: From PID 003-134-806, Northeast Quarter of Section 3,

[3:01:40] Trustee Elliott: Guadalajara Island and Iowa District.

[3:01:42] Trustee Elliott: Accept parcel A, DD-773261.

[3:01:47] Trustee Elliott: I just want to double check the citation there.

[3:01:54] Voice 8: Yes, and

[3:01:54] Trustee Elliott: accept plans.

[3:02:00] Trustee Elliott: The wording that's in our rezoning of property.

[3:02:05] Voice 1: Future projects.

[3:02:06] Trustee Elliott: So it should also read and accept plans EPP-19453 and EPP-66666.

[3:02:21] Voice 11: Can you repeat that last part, please?

[3:02:24] Trustee Elliott: Sure.

[3:02:25] Trustee Elliott: And accept plans EPP-19453 and EPP-66666.

[3:02:55] Voice 12: So that's what I mean, this is

[3:02:56] Voice 1: action one. Okay. Is there a second to that motion, seconded by Trustee Yates? Is there any discussion?

[3:03:05] Trustee Elliott: Just say this is a very difficult process to enter into.

[3:03:11] Trustee Elliott: We need to be careful that we do things in a procedurally and administratively fair way to all parties.

[3:03:26] Trustee Elliott: So getting some options back to consider is very important.

[3:03:33] Trustee Elliott: importance but it's also a this direction supports what we have heard from our community

[3:03:44] Trustee Elliott: for many many years about latent densities that are in inappropriate deeply inappropriate

[3:03:54] Trustee Elliott: places and i think it supports what we have heard from community so far as well as from

[3:04:00] Trustee Elliott: i'm sending out their sanctions so we don't enter into this lately but um it is consistent and

[3:04:10] Trustee Elliott: coherent with the overall scope of considering our official committee plan in the future of

[3:04:17] Trustee Elliott: community

[3:04:18] Voice 3: any

[3:04:20] Trustee Elliott: further discussion i'll call the vote then all those in favor that carries

[3:04:26] Trustee Elliott: Do we hold off on the request for legal?

[3:04:32] Trustee Elliott: Yes.

[3:04:33] Trustee Elliott: Yeah.

[3:04:33] Voice 1: I think it's options first.

[3:04:35] Voice 1: Yeah.

[3:04:35] Voice 1: So then if there's no further discussion on that item, the second item on the business

[3:04:41] Voice 1: risk obligations under the Covenant

[3:04:43] Trustee Elliott: 3X113595, it's for you.

[3:04:49] Trustee Elliott: So thank you, Chair.

[3:04:51] Trustee Elliott: Sure. So this came to light as I was doing more research, and it relates to understanding

[3:05:02] Trustee Elliott: the LTC's authorities, what is under our authority to do, and what do we still have

[3:05:10] Trustee Elliott: to discharge? In what way do we need to uphold the terms of a covenant that is in place on

[3:05:21] Trustee Elliott: that parcel so the covenant is a section 219 covenant between center stage holdings and the

[3:05:31] Trustee Elliott: gabriel island local trust committee that was entered into in 2005 and it's i hadn't read it

[3:05:43] Trustee Elliott: before thoroughly until this week but it actually places quite a number of obligations on the owner

[3:05:50] Trustee Elliott: that the ltc must well has the responsibility to see that the covenant is discharged

[3:06:01] Trustee Elliott: so my question now because we haven't looked at this is have the conditions of the covenant been

[3:06:17] Trustee Elliott: met and are the provisions for the protection of heritage areas in place as per the conditions

[3:06:28] Trustee Elliott: So, the terms are, if you go through Schedule B, or 2, the owner agrees that any final plan

[3:06:43] Trustee Elliott: of subdivision shall take into account the following matters, and it lists to locating

[3:06:50] Trustee Elliott: as many First Nations heritage sites of interest that are identified and to put them on as

[3:06:56] Trustee Elliott: few lots as possible.

[3:06:59] Trustee Elliott: the government of bc heritage branch recommendations for park sites buffer areas for noise and privacy

[3:07:05] Trustee Elliott: steep slopes within dpas public road and non-vehicular access lot layout configuration

[3:07:13] Trustee Elliott: importance with community bylaw subdivision standards and other requirements of the local

[3:07:18] Trustee Elliott: government act and then the side that lots know a lot but it goes on and that's it's it's section 11

[3:07:27] Trustee Elliott: that i am wondering what are our responsibilities to ensure that this has been met the owner shall

[3:07:34] Trustee Elliott: not subdivide the land until satisfactory provision has been made by the owner for a

[3:07:41] Trustee Elliott: covenant over the land in favor of her majesty the queen and the right of the province of british

[3:07:46] Trustee Elliott: columbia as represented by the minister of tourism sports in the arts to provide protection

[3:07:52] Trustee Elliott: to those First Nations archaeological sites on the land

[3:07:56] Trustee Elliott: identified in the Archaeology Report by I.R. Wilson

[3:07:58] Trustee Elliott: prepared by Darcy Matthews dated October 2022

[3:08:02] Trustee Elliott: and pursuant to the Heritage Protection Act

[3:08:04] Trustee Elliott: and recommendations of the Heritage Branch.

[3:08:08] Trustee Elliott: And it's interesting because last year

[3:08:11] Trustee Elliott: when we first considered this development permit

[3:08:14] Trustee Elliott: two years ago,

[3:08:15] Trustee Elliott: I was struck by this question of the covenants.

[3:08:19] Trustee Elliott: I'm like, what are those covenants in place?

[3:08:23] Trustee Elliott: And I don't know if they are, but by the terms of this covenant that we hold, those need to be, what is the satisfactory provision that provides protection for those First Nations Ark sites?

[3:08:41] Trustee Elliott: All we've heard is, well, you can't alter anything within the Ark sites.

[3:08:47] Trustee Elliott: There's no intention to take down or disturb anything.

[3:08:52] Trustee Elliott: but there's a number of questions about the protection of those sites and those

[3:08:58] Trustee Elliott: are outstanding from the dynamic First Nation so one of them is that the buffer

[3:09:03] Trustee Elliott: areas the minimum buffer areas to arc sites is supposed to be 50 meters one

[3:09:11] Trustee Elliott: AIA showed 50 meters what we've seen in the PLA is 10 to 30 meters and there's

[3:09:18] Trustee Elliott: some conflicting information that's come back from Moti and we need to I'd say that it may be

[3:09:25] Trustee Elliott: our responsibility to make sure that there's sufficient buffers there for holding this

[3:09:29] Trustee Elliott: covenant that ensures that seeks to ensure those protections are in place um so my question is

[3:09:41] Trustee Elliott: sorry back to the motion it's really asking staff to get some uh get some clarity here

[3:09:49] Trustee Elliott: so requesting staff to report back on the question of whether the terms of the section 219 restrictive

[3:09:55] Trustee Elliott: covenant DX 113595 for PID 003134806 and PID 0031347893 held by the Karela Local Trust Committee

[3:10:07] Trustee Elliott: places an obligation on the Local Trust Committee to ensure that covenants for the protection of

[3:10:12] Trustee Elliott: archaeological sites in the lands are secured prior to land altering activities on the land

[3:10:18] Trustee Elliott: or any development in anticipation of subdivision

[3:10:21] Trustee Elliott: and to report back on the question of whether it has been determined

[3:10:25] Trustee Elliott: and how it might be determined that the conditions of the covenant

[3:10:29] Trustee Elliott: and Schedule B have been met.

[3:10:31] Trustee Elliott: I won't even list the conditions, but just how is it determined

[3:10:36] Trustee Elliott: that those conditions have been met?

[3:10:41] Voice 14: And is there a positive obligation on this LTC

[3:10:46] Voice 14: see to require that the owner has met all conditions yeah

[3:10:54] Trustee Elliott: and it's interesting because

[3:10:55] Trustee Elliott: the language if you read page three the number one the number one section one covenants the owner

[3:11:09] Trustee Elliott: covenants and agrees with the trust committee that the land shall not be built upon or used for any

[3:11:16] Trustee Elliott: purpose or subdivided by any method unless the owner is in compliance with

[3:11:22] Trustee Elliott: all of the conditions set out in Schedule B. Like that's pretty

[3:11:29] Trustee Elliott: encompassing language. Shall not be used for any purpose unless all of those

[3:11:35] Trustee Elliott: conditions have been met.

[3:11:38] Voice 14: Which is why I brought up the whole business of the

[3:11:41] Voice 14: covenant when we were talking about the development permit because this seems to

[3:11:48] Voice 14: to be overarching, this seems to be overarching,

[3:11:51] Voice 14: to me anyway, and I actually remember

[3:11:55] Trustee Elliott: Chair Rogers talking about this covenant

[3:11:58] Trustee Elliott: and how important it was.

[3:12:02] Trustee Elliott: So I

[3:12:05] Voice 12: guess to look to staff on this question.

[3:12:17] Voice 2: Through the chair?

[3:12:19] Voice 1: Yes, so.

[3:12:21] Voice 5: I cannot provide a response right now,

[3:12:24] Voice 5: so it's something that we can report back on.

[3:12:27] Voice 1: Okay, RPM, Gemma.

[3:12:28] Voice 1: And

[3:12:29] Voice 2: through the chair, I would echo what Leonard Bau has said, that you can request staff report back.

[3:12:36] Voice 2: The LTC may also consider adding an additional resolution to that to say if needed to seek legal advice on that as well.

[3:12:47] Voice 2: If we don't have enough information, then

[3:12:51] Voice 2: we can do that all at the same time.

[3:12:53] Trustee Elliott: yeah that would have been my my second motion would be to request staff

[3:12:58] Trustee Elliott: seek legal advice on whether i was going to ask whether it's just conditional 11 of covenant bx

[3:13:05] Trustee Elliott: 11 35 95 i wouldn't be specific and i think you can combine the two okay

[3:13:10] Voice 1: just yeah that's what

[3:13:12] Voice 1: i'm hearing is through

[3:13:13] Voice 2: the chair i would suggest that as well because there's good clarity in a

[3:13:17] Voice 2: draft motion referencing the specific um parts of that covenant right

[3:13:25] Trustee Elliott: sorry just a note from lisa

[3:13:27] Trustee Elliott: going send

[3:13:28] Voice 11: me i didn't think

[3:13:30] Trustee Elliott: they are as red like i sent them all to you last night or yesterday

[3:13:35] Trustee Elliott: um i'll just i just sent it so can you

[3:13:43] Voice 1: combine that into one okay that's the question so

[3:13:46] Voice 1: report

[3:13:47] Trustee Elliott: back

[3:13:48] Trustee Elliott: and seek

[3:13:52] Trustee Elliott: legal advice

[3:13:56] Trustee Elliott: if necessary

[3:13:58] Trustee Elliott: might not be

[3:14:00] Trustee Elliott: yeah I think the

[3:14:09] Trustee Elliott: first resolution is the more

[3:14:11] Trustee Elliott: complete one

[3:14:12] Trustee Elliott: purpose of ensuring yeah like

[3:14:17] Trustee Elliott: the covenant was constructed in

[3:14:19] Trustee Elliott: part to ensure

[3:14:21] Trustee Elliott: that any future subdivision

[3:14:23] Trustee Elliott: will be in the public interest

[3:14:25] Trustee Elliott: but in front of the wording it's really interesting it's like the purpose of it was to ensure that

[3:14:32] Trustee Elliott: whatever happened it would be in and i'm assuming the current public interest and for the purpose

[3:14:38] Trustee Elliott: of securing ensuring the protection of first nations archaeological sites so i think the

[3:14:48] Trustee Elliott: wording in the last part is important as well and whether this is a positive to require

[3:15:01] Trustee Elliott: or by which means the local trust committee should ensure this condition is met, whether it should be met before further alterations of land under development is carried out in anticipation of subdivision.

[3:15:12] Trustee Elliott: So we just see whether

[3:15:18] Voice 3: it has been determined that by which means should ensure this condition is met,

[3:15:41] Voice 8: conditions in the covenant schedule be revised.

[3:16:03] Voice 8: revise. She's really amping it a lot.

[3:16:06] Voice 7: Matt,

[3:16:14] Trustee Elliott: the four-figure alterations still

[3:16:16] Trustee Elliott: on. Okay. So

[3:16:18] Trustee Elliott: I will just send this to you, Lisa.

[3:16:20] Trustee Elliott: Combine the two.

[3:16:31] Voice 1: Do you want me

[3:16:31] Voice 1: to read it out? I think you're going to have to

[3:16:33] Voice 1: read it out. It's a bit of a novel,

[3:16:36] Voice 1: but go

[3:16:37] Trustee Elliott: for it. It's five-page resolutions.

[3:16:40] Trustee Elliott: Part one.

[3:16:41] Trustee Elliott: That the Gabriel and Locutrescu video request staff

[3:16:43] Trustee Elliott: report back and seek legal advice

[3:16:45] Trustee Elliott: if necessary on the question

[3:16:47] Trustee Elliott: Question of whether the terms of the Section 219 Restrictive Covenant EX 113595 for PID 003-134-806 and PID 003-134-792 held by the Gabriel Local Trust Committee places a positive obligation on the Local Trust Committee to ensure that covenants for the protection of archaeological sites in the lands are secured prior to land altering activities on the land or any development in anticipation of subdivision.

[3:17:18] Trustee Elliott: and to report back on the question of whether it has been determined that the owner has made

[3:17:23] Trustee Elliott: satisfactory provision for the protection of First Nations archaeological sites

[3:17:27] Trustee Elliott: through a covenant over the land or other instrument and by which means the Gabriel

[3:17:32] Trustee Elliott: Local Trust Committee should ensure the conditions of the covenant and schedule B are met

[3:17:36] Trustee Elliott: and if they must be met before further alterations to the land or development is

[3:17:40] Trustee Elliott: carried out in

[3:17:40] Trustee Elliott: anticipation of subdivision subdivision it's got some duplicate wording in there

[3:17:48] Trustee Elliott: like it's whether whether it has in fact been determined that the owner has made satisfactory

[3:17:53] Trustee Elliott: provision what are the tools for that provision if they must if those protections must be in

[3:18:05] Trustee Elliott: place before further alterations the land is carried out

[3:18:09] Voice 5: uh go ahead jerry this morning

[3:18:13] Voice 5: that might be some sort of similar how you just paraphrased that there might be a simpler way

[3:18:18] Voice 5: from where the resolution to say does it sound like hopefully you're asking staff to report back

[3:18:22] Voice 5: on and seek legal advice necessary on a few items related to the covenant and so if they could just

[3:18:29] Voice 5: be on a this question the next question and just

[3:18:38] Voice 14: good question rewording do we need to say positive

[3:18:41] Voice 14: Is it a positive obligation or just an obligation?

[3:18:44] Voice 3: The trust committee.

[3:18:46] Voice 14: What obligation should be?

[3:18:50] Voice 1: Do we need to be that specific?

[3:18:52] Voice 1: Where it's generally the status of the covenant and any outstanding, I don't know, is it?

[3:18:59] Voice 1: But do you want to be specific?

[3:19:03] Trustee Elliott: Well, if we're getting legal advice, it's the obligations of the local trust committee

[3:19:07] Trustee Elliott: committee to ensure the protection of archaeological sites on the land and i'll just take out that b

[3:19:22] Trustee Elliott: the question of the question um actually i'll just say whether it's been determined the owner

[3:19:34] Trustee Elliott: has made satisfactory provision c by which means the gabriel local trust committee

[3:19:46] Trustee Elliott: would ensure the conditions in the covenant and the schedule of the year met and d if they must

[3:19:54] Trustee Elliott: be met if further alterations to the land or development is carried out in anticipation of

[3:19:58] Trustee Elliott: subdivision i think that's better forgive

[3:20:02] Voice 8: me these questions

[3:20:23] Voice 8: it's

[3:20:26] Trustee Elliott: almost like it's like the

[3:20:27] Trustee Elliott: like what are their obligation today the covenant was put in place what does it mean for other

[3:20:35] Trustee Elliott: obligations today and the

[3:20:37] Trustee Elliott: discharge of that covenant.

[3:20:48] Voice 3: If the

[3:20:54] Trustee Elliott: scheduled beam must be met

[3:20:56] Trustee Elliott: on conditions, the scheduled beam must be met.

[3:21:02] Trustee Elliott: Okay. I think that's

[3:21:03] Trustee Elliott: it.

[3:21:05] Trustee Elliott: And even the opportunity

[3:21:06] Trustee Elliott: to make the goal is coming.

[3:21:12] Trustee Elliott: Chapter 4.

[3:21:15] Trustee Elliott: I'll send that to

[3:21:17] Trustee Elliott: Stephen as well. Thanks for bearing with me

[3:21:19] Trustee Elliott: everyone.

[3:21:21] Trustee Elliott: Chair Patrick, I might need a five minute break to go get

[3:21:24] Trustee Elliott: food after this oh i have food in my pocket well okay or if we can take a break that would be great

[3:21:33] Trustee Elliott: but we might

[3:21:33] Voice 14: not be able to yeah does

[3:21:47] Voice 8: it satisfy shall you

[3:21:52] Voice 1: attempt to read again go for it sure

[3:21:55] Voice 1: it's usually where we find

[3:21:57] Trustee Elliott: our editorial errors when

[3:21:58] Voice 1: we're trying to get

[3:21:58] Trustee Elliott: out of the house so go

[3:21:59] Trustee Elliott: for it thanks i move that the gabriel local trust committee request staff report back

[3:22:03] Trustee Elliott: and seek legal advice if necessary on actually you could just take out the question on whether

[3:22:12] Trustee Elliott: the terms of the section 219 restrictive covenant ex 113595 for pid 003134806 and pid 003134792

[3:22:24] Trustee Elliott: held by the Gabriel Local Trust Committee, whether the

[3:22:29] Trustee Elliott: terms on have been met or are being met.

[3:22:37] Trustee Elliott: Yeah, have been met. Thank you. So sorry, after Local Trust Committee have been met,

[3:22:46] Trustee Elliott: and on the following. A, the obligations of the Local Trust Committee to ensure the protection

[3:22:56] Trustee Elliott: of archaeological sites on the lands. B, whether it has been determined that the owner has made

[3:23:01] Trustee Elliott: satisfactory provision for the protection of first nations archaeological sites through a covenant

[3:23:06] Trustee Elliott: over the land or other instrument c by which means the gabriel local trust committee would ensure the

[3:23:12] Trustee Elliott: conditions of the covenant and schedule b are met and d if all conditions in schedule b must

[3:23:18] Trustee Elliott: be met before further alterations to land or development is carried out in anticipation of

[3:23:22] Trustee Elliott: subdivision that's it all

[3:23:27] Voice 12: right does that satisfy staff before we second the

[3:23:54] Voice 8: one that i did

[3:23:54] Voice 8: one

[3:23:56] Voice 5: question uh related to a is do is this a general question or is it specific to

[3:24:05] Voice 5: the cup given like is it given the existence of the covenant

[3:24:13] Voice 1: it's in terms of the covenant

[3:24:15] Voice 1: everything is in terms of the covenant

[3:24:18] Voice 1: yeah like what

[3:24:20] Trustee Elliott: within the terms of the covenant

[3:24:24] Trustee Elliott: it states that well the covenant

[3:24:26] Trustee Elliott: is constructed to ensure the protection

[3:24:28] Trustee Elliott: of archaeological sites in the

[3:24:29] Trustee Elliott: land so what is the

[3:24:32] Trustee Elliott: obligation of the local trust committee

[3:24:33] Trustee Elliott: to do that

[3:24:35] Trustee Elliott: I thought

[3:24:37] Voice 5: when you maybe understood

[3:24:40] Voice 5: didn't follow and seek legal advice on the terms of the covenant and on these matters

[3:24:49] Voice 5: and there's the list so it would be

[3:24:53] Voice 5: the intent is

[3:24:59] Voice 1: that it's all related to the covenant is that correct

[3:25:03] Trustee Elliott: terms and these matters

[3:25:06] Trustee Elliott: Yeah, it is on the terms of the Covenant and on these matters.

[3:25:10] Trustee Elliott: And

[3:25:10] Voice 5: those matters are all related to the Covenant?

[3:25:12] Trustee Elliott: Yeah.

[3:25:12] Voice 1: So should it say...

[3:25:14] Voice 1: So

[3:25:14] Voice 5: maybe at the end of A to add, I'm sure the protection of given the Covenant registered on that.

[3:25:23] Voice 8: Well,

[3:25:24] Trustee Elliott: as stipulated in the Covenant.

[3:25:26] Trustee Elliott: Okay.

[3:25:26] Trustee Elliott: As stipulated in Covenant AX 113595.

[3:25:33] Trustee Elliott: Absolutely.

[3:25:34] Voice 11: Yeah, I think that helps a lot.

[3:25:35] Voice 11: Okay,

[3:25:36] Trustee Elliott: the obligation is to be sure that we're stipulating the covenant.

[3:25:39] Trustee Elliott: Thank you.

[3:25:40] Trustee Elliott: Is there a second to this motion?

[3:25:42] Trustee Elliott: Second that.

[3:25:44] Trustee Elliott: Thank you, Dr. Yates.

[3:25:46] Trustee Elliott: Is there any discussion?

[3:25:50] Voice 12: Call the vote then.

[3:25:51] Voice 12: All those in favor?

[3:25:53] Voice 12: That carries.

[3:25:54] Voice 3: Okay.

[3:25:55] Voice 12: Do you have any other novels in draft, or does that satisfy that?

[3:26:01] Trustee Elliott: Well, it's about getting people.

[3:26:02] Trustee Elliott: Yep.

[3:26:03] Trustee Elliott: Jed?

[3:26:05] Voice 12: Well.

[3:26:05] Voice 12: Well, so

[3:26:06] Trustee Elliott: whether staff can advise if legal advice can be secured from the Islands Trust

[3:26:15] Trustee Elliott: legal general budget or can be drawn from the Gabriel Local Trust Committee.

[3:26:19] Voice 1: Oh, so we do we need to address?

[3:26:22] Voice 1: I see a picture of the background here.

[3:26:28] Voice 1: Chrissy?

[3:26:29] Voice 2: Thank you, Chair.

[3:26:30] Voice 2: Chair, I've looked at the LTC legal, general legal account, and I would suggest that it be looked at through those funds.

[3:26:43] Voice 1: So we need to make a resolution in that regard?

[3:26:47] Voice 2: I believe so. Yes, please.

[3:26:49] Voice 2: That would give direction.

[3:26:50] Voice 2: And if there's an estimate that comes back that is higher than what's in the budget, we can come back to the LTC.

[3:26:58] Voice 2: but I believe that should be adequate thank

[3:27:03] Trustee Elliott: you okay so I know that the year

[3:27:06] Trustee Elliott: old LTC request staff use funds from the Gabriela local trust committee general

[3:27:13] Trustee Elliott: legal budget do

[3:27:18] Voice 14: you wanna stay relating to this request or does it or do we

[3:27:21] Voice 14: Mr. Simic so we can make it to our request for for review of the covenant yes for a reason so

[3:27:44] Voice 12: super all right is there a second second by trustee Yates any discussion all about all those

[3:27:50] Voice 1: in favor carry all right any other actions then on that item so are we going to keep plowing ahead

[3:27:59] Voice 1: two o'clock we're going to return back to the the correspondence 11.3 thank you

[3:28:12] Voice 1: So, in light of the work discussed, is it still advised to request project charters?

[3:28:22] Voice 1: Would that be

[3:28:22] Voice 12: this action?

[3:28:30] Voice 5: I would be happy

[3:28:31] Voice 1: to let our camera answer that question.

[3:28:39] Voice 3: through

[3:28:40] Voice 2: the chair if i may ask just for a quick um quick recap here so you would the ltc would

[3:28:47] Voice 2: like to advance the item regarding the mudge island review mudge island land use bylaw targeted

[3:28:58] Voice 2: targeted review. So my previous mention to this was if the LTC would like this to be a minor project

[3:29:09] Voice 2: and to prepare, I would suggest preparing a project charter where then we can identify

[3:29:18] Voice 2: and confirm the resources and the scope of work based on, and for you to identify if you'd like

[3:29:26] Voice 2: it based on what the targeted areas are so if there's a survey results or any other aspects

[3:29:34] Voice 2: that will give us enough direction to form a scope of work through the project charter

[3:29:39] Voice 2: and confirm that that work in that timeline thank you

[3:29:43] Trustee Elliott: so question can we just refer to the top nine

[3:29:53] Trustee Elliott: issues identified in the community in this letter or do you need a list

[3:30:01] Voice 1: probably just make reference to items identified in that for abundance lots

[3:30:08] Trustee Elliott: between one and five

[3:30:09] Trustee Elliott: acres yeah and

[3:30:13] Voice 2: through the chair if there is a desire from the ltc to for example include in

[3:30:19] Voice 2: the project charter a community information meeting we can also um include that as well

[3:30:27] Trustee Elliott: for

[3:30:27] Voice 2: for example no no

[3:30:31] Voice 2: question so

[3:30:32] Voice 14: Sharon Patrick I have a question with regard to our work

[3:30:35] Voice 14: our future work projects I I want to know whether doing this work for for a bunch which I really do

[3:30:43] Voice 14: believe is important and it's already got a good start will this compromise our ability to work on

[3:30:50] Voice 14: on development permit areas or on land use by-law

[3:30:54] Voice 14: because I still believe that those are the most essential

[3:30:57] Voice 14: things that we need to update or make new ones.

[3:31:04] Voice 2: Through the chair, RPM Gemratt again here,

[3:31:08] Voice 2: the time until the end of this fiscal,

[3:31:11] Voice 2: I would anticipate we would have a time

[3:31:14] Voice 2: for one minor project.

[3:31:18] Voice 14: So that would not include the development permit areas

[3:31:21] Voice 14: is that would normally be attached to the OCP and LUB update?

[3:31:26] Voice 2: If that work that you're referencing, Trustee Yates, is part of the bigger major project,

[3:31:35] Voice 2: that's a separate project, and that would, in this, as a minor project, this Mudge Island

[3:31:43] Voice 2: targeted review of the bylaws, that would be a minor project.

[3:31:47] Voice 2: So, in preparing that project charter, we would identify the timeline for that and the

[3:31:53] Voice 2: staffing resources.

[3:31:59] Trustee Elliott: So, RBM General, we tried this on Liskety to pull out an element of the OCP review to

[3:32:10] Trustee Elliott: start advancing the work of First Nations engagement as a minor project because regional

[3:32:17] Trustee Elliott: planning team resources were stretched and we couldn't begin Laskiti's OCP review until

[3:32:23] Trustee Elliott: later this winter and so we had sought advice on whether we could start an element of the OCP

[3:32:30] Trustee Elliott: review and I recall in your memo to Laskiti you reference policy that states that we can't pull

[3:32:42] Trustee Elliott: an element that's already

[3:32:44] Trustee Elliott: scoped in for an OCP review

[3:32:46] Trustee Elliott: to do as a separate mining project?

[3:32:47] Trustee Elliott: Can you articulate that

[3:32:50] Trustee Elliott: for us here? Because I

[3:32:51] Trustee Elliott: don't know if I'm translating that well.

[3:32:53] Voice 1: This is in regard to development permit areas.

[3:32:55] Voice 1: But

[3:32:56] Trustee Elliott: development permit areas are part of the OCP

[3:32:58] Trustee Elliott: review. Correct.

[3:33:00] Trustee Elliott: Trustee, I was

[3:33:02] Trustee Elliott: asking if they would be pulled

[3:33:04] Trustee Elliott: out and done as a separate minor project.

[3:33:06] Trustee Elliott: I don't think we can do that.

[3:33:07] Voice 14: I'm happy that we're not doing that as long as

[3:33:09] Voice 14: we get them done.

[3:33:12] Voice 14: I'm happy if they really are

[3:33:14] Voice 14: included in the greater project

[3:33:16] Voice 14: of the OCP and language file

[3:33:18] Voice 14: I reviewed. It doesn't matter

[3:33:20] Trustee Elliott: how long it takes. If they're part of that, I'm

[3:33:22] Trustee Elliott: happy. You just wanted to make sure that

[3:33:24] Trustee Elliott: they're not taking on

[3:33:26] Trustee Elliott: another minor project.

[3:33:29] Trustee Elliott: That's all I wanted to know.

[3:33:32] Voice 1: Good.

[3:33:33] Voice 1: All right.

[3:33:35] Voice 1: Lisa, did you catch

[3:33:37] Voice 1: some possibilities of

[3:33:39] Voice 1: a resolution?

[3:33:39] Voice 1: We should turn it on.

[3:33:40] Voice 1: Well, I'm

[3:33:41] Voice 12: not going to open it.

[3:33:42] Voice 1: I've got my notes.

[3:33:44] Voice 12: OK.

[3:33:45] Trustee Elliott: Project charter for a minor project.

[3:33:51] Trustee Elliott: OK, Lisa, I'll just, I'll get there.

[3:33:55] Trustee Elliott: What is the modality of the LUB?

[3:33:56] Trustee Elliott: 77?

[3:33:58] Trustee Elliott: What's your LUB number?

[3:34:04] Voice 8: 177?

[3:34:05] Voice 8: I had to catch the server.

[3:34:06] Trustee Elliott: Yeah, I had to

[3:34:07] Trustee Elliott: catch the server.

[3:34:08] Trustee Elliott: Oh, that's funny.

[3:34:09] Voice 8: I'll just go to the website.

[3:34:11] Voice 8: Yeah, that's great.

[3:34:12] Voice 8: I think it's 177.

[3:34:15] Voice 4: Oh, there

[3:34:16] Voice 4: you are.

[3:34:18] Trustee Elliott: Hey, I need more sugar.

[3:34:20] Voice 4: Oh,

[3:34:21] Trustee Elliott: we are 177.

[3:34:25] Trustee Elliott: LUB 278.

[3:34:29] Voice 5: Thank

[3:34:29] Trustee Elliott: you, 228 with scoping in the priorities identified through

[3:34:53] Voice 8: the Mudge Island Community

[3:34:55] Voice 8: By-law Survey.

[3:35:00] Trustee Elliott: So question about priorities, so it's the wording that I have so far that Gabriel, the

[3:35:05] Trustee Elliott: local trust committee request staff prepare a project charter for a minor project of targeted

[3:35:09] Trustee Elliott: amendments to the much violent land use bylaw 228 scoping in the priorities identified through the

[3:35:16] Trustee Elliott: mud island community bylaw survey but before we move forward it's so on page 149 there's a list of

[3:35:25] Trustee Elliott: nine top most important issues to the community and then there's six more so community access to

[3:35:37] Trustee Elliott: ocean outside of scope of the land use bylaw um but setbacks on lots between one and five acres i

[3:35:45] Trustee Elliott: would say two derelict vehicles yes home-based businesses accommodations grid living i mean

[3:35:57] Trustee Elliott: the information there i guess we'd be asking staff to report back on

[3:36:02] Trustee Elliott: what you know if all these things were scoped in this is you know this is doable or these

[3:36:09] Trustee Elliott: These pieces are going to get an analysis, so just include all of the items identified

[3:36:18] Trustee Elliott: for analysis.

[3:36:22] Trustee Elliott: We're not there.

[3:36:23] Trustee Elliott: Go ahead, Arminia.

[3:36:25] Voice 2: Through the chair, that would be what I would suggest is identifying those items, and staff

[3:36:33] Voice 2: can come back through the project charter to confirm those items.

[3:36:38] Voice 2: that can be part of a targeted review

[3:36:40] Voice 2: within the end of the fiscal year as a minor project.

[3:36:44] Voice 2: And if there are any that staff suggest shouldn't be part

[3:36:49] Voice 2: or couldn't rather be part

[3:36:51] Voice 2: of this particular minor project amendment.

[3:36:55] Trustee Elliott: I give them the leeway.

[3:36:57] Trustee Elliott: All right, marriage boys, a lot of coverage.

[3:37:00] Trustee Elliott: Are you going to list them all?

[3:37:02] Trustee Elliott: I think so.

[3:37:03] Trustee Elliott: Okay.

[3:37:04] Voice 6: because

[3:37:04] Trustee Elliott: it's better for the setback when we're seeing them

[3:37:08] Trustee Elliott: well structures in the set

[3:37:12] Trustee Elliott: you want

[3:37:18] Voice 5: to reference the course options

[3:37:19] Voice 5: like that data that could be another way to do it

[3:37:31] Voice 11: Yeah,

[3:37:32] Trustee Elliott: I mean, that was my initial thought was just scoping in the priorities identified

[3:37:38] Trustee Elliott: through the Mahjong Community By-law Survey as submitted to the LTC on July 31st, 2025.

[3:37:54] Trustee Elliott: Do we want July 18th on our correspondence?

[3:38:03] Voice 9: And

[3:38:10] Trustee Elliott: correspond to the LTC dated to my team. Okay, so give a little trust me to press down prepare a project charter for a minor project of targeted amendments to much 21st July 21st.

[3:38:37] Trustee Elliott: So the Gibraltar Local Trust Committee requests staff to prepare a project charter for a minor

[3:38:42] Trustee Elliott: project targeted amendments to MUNJU's bylaw 228, scoping in the priorities identified

[3:38:49] Trustee Elliott: through the MUNJU Island Community Bylaw Survey report of incumbents from MICA to the LTC

[3:38:58] Trustee Elliott: see dated July 18th.

[3:39:02] Voice 8: She's going to send that to you. Well, at least we can get started. I

[3:39:22] Trustee Elliott: thought it was going to be in late August. Everybody's going to go and make patient notes.

[3:39:29] Voice 14: Somebody said to me, oh, that's a pretty short agenda you got for today's meeting.

[3:39:36] Trustee Elliott: I've got it. Thank you. Got it. All right.

[3:39:38] Voice 1: Is there a second to that motion?

[3:39:39] Voice 1: I'm distracted by Trustee Yates. Any discussion? All those in favor? That carries. Thank you

[3:39:47] Voice 1: for your

[3:39:48] Voice 1: patience and

[3:39:49] Voice 15: we're going to keep on moving.

[3:39:53] Voice 15: Thank you folks. Heavy sledding today. You guys are doing a fabulous job.

[3:39:56] Voice 13: Yeah,

[3:39:57] Voice 15: everything is in sight. Thank you.

[3:39:58] Voice 15: Appreciate

[3:39:59] Trustee Elliott: all your work.

[3:40:00] Voice 8: Thank you.

[3:40:00] Trustee Elliott: Thank you.

[3:40:01] Trustee Elliott: Great work.

[3:40:02] Trustee Elliott: all right we're

[3:40:04] Voice 1: going to move on to the staff reporting section of this document on page 151

[3:40:10] Voice 1: we have a trust council bylaw number 197 this is the meeting procedure bylaws page here

[3:40:24] Trustee Elliott: 97 that's not what it says 151 where did i get 197 it's in the rfd on page 151 it says

[3:40:32] Trustee Elliott: Yes. Oh, it's bylaw number 127. See,

[3:40:34] Voice 1: we're getting tired. Okay. I'm going to keep myself

[3:40:37] Voice 1: focused. Numbers are all blurring together. So, trustees, this is the meeting procedure

[3:40:43] Voice 1: bylaw as a result of Trust Council making a bylaw for meeting procedures to apply to

[3:40:49] Voice 1: all trust committees that we passed at our previous Trust Council meeting. It requires

[3:40:55] Voice 1: requires that you do a little bit of work here to give readings to um

[3:41:00] Trustee Elliott: repealing the existing this

[3:41:04] Trustee Elliott: is more housekeeping so if there's any questions uh we need to proceed through these motions here

[3:41:11] Trustee Elliott: on page 151. I move that the gabriela

[3:41:13] Voice 14: island local trust committee give bylaw 323 cited as

[3:41:17] Voice 14: gabriela island local testing meeting procedures repeal bylaw number 323 2025 first reading

[3:41:31] Trustee Elliott: I move that the Gabriella Island Local Trust Committee give by-law 323, cited as Gabriella Island Local Trust Committee of Meaning Procedures repeal by-law number 323-2025 for the second reading.

[3:41:45] Trustee Elliott: Second.

[3:41:50] Voice 12: I move that the

[3:41:51] Voice 14: Gabriella Island Local Trust Committee give by-law 323, cited as Gabriella Island.

[3:41:56] Voice 14: local trust committee meeting procedure repealed by law number 323 2025 third reading second by

[3:42:03] Voice 14: trustee elliott discussion

[3:42:04] Trustee Elliott: one more i

[3:42:11] Voice 14: move that gabriella island local trust committee forward

[3:42:13] Voice 14: by law 323 cited as gabriella island local trust committee meeting procedures repealed by law number

[3:42:19] Voice 14: 3-3-2025 to the Islands Trust

[3:42:22] Voice 14: Executive Committee for consideration of approval.

[3:42:26] Trustee Elliott: Seconded by Trustee Elliott. Any discussion? Call the vote.

[3:42:29] Trustee Elliott: All those in favour?

[3:42:31] Trustee Elliott: All those in favour?

[3:42:32] Trustee Elliott: That carries.

[3:42:35] Trustee Elliott: Yay!

[3:42:36] Trustee Elliott: Before we move on from that, Vincent, Chair, just a question.

[3:42:40] Trustee Elliott: May I?

[3:42:40] Trustee Elliott: Yes.

[3:42:41] Trustee Elliott: so in the main local trust committee meeting we had a public notification bylaw presented

[3:42:49] Trustee Elliott: and we made a decision we know when that is coming to us

[3:42:56] Voice 5: which i don't know when that's coming but i know that it is on its it is something that will be

[3:43:01] Voice 5: coming

[3:43:01] Trustee Elliott: okay all right it was just interesting that made its

[3:43:04] Trustee Elliott: way very quickly to maine and we haven't

[3:43:06] Trustee Elliott: seen it but i think just something to learn from salt spring i'll share before

[3:43:11] Voice 1: it comes because um

[3:43:14] Voice 1: if if you don't want to change if you have an existing system that works on your island like

[3:43:20] Voice 1: we have a major paper on our island and yours is

[3:43:22] Trustee Elliott: working the same if it's working then we don't

[3:43:25] Trustee Elliott: need to do anything so yes we have that same time yeah we talked about that

[3:43:30] Voice 1: yeah so that's why you

[3:43:32] Voice 1: may not have it as if what's what you have in place is the best option for your island yeah

[3:43:38] Voice 12: you don't need to do further work because that's what we think that happened on salt spring yeah

[3:43:45] Voice 11: okay

[3:43:45] Voice 12: so moving

[3:43:48] Voice 1: on we have um our applications report at 13.3 on page 155 the agenda package

[3:43:55] Voice 1: are there any questions on any of the open applications um

[3:44:02] Trustee Elliott: i guess i am still wondering

[3:44:04] Trustee Elliott: I'm wondering where the shoreline protection, the pink application that was coming to us.

[3:44:14] Trustee Elliott: Final review status.

[3:44:18] Trustee Elliott: Pink, woodside and maps.

[3:44:22] Trustee Elliott: So one of them has the LTC public notice has been given. What is that towards?

[3:44:29] Trustee Elliott: words.

[3:44:29] Trustee Elliott: Well,

[3:44:30] Voice 5: there was applications for committee, and they were

[3:44:36] Voice 5: requested that they be withdrawn from the agenda. I can't recall

[3:44:44] Voice 5: exactly which agenda was. And I think they are I want to be

[3:44:51] Voice 5: yelled at the 240299. The applicant is working to provide

[3:44:56] Voice 5: additional information. Okay.

[3:45:00] Voice 5: the other two applications that I was likely the case although I don't know for certain so

[3:45:05] Voice 5: okay

[3:45:05] Trustee Elliott: all right so the the last one the 299 is the it's it hasn't done the work it's

[3:45:14] Trustee Elliott: looking to put that rock with them in place whereas the other two have already um done

[3:45:22] Trustee Elliott: the rock walls in place and they're seeking a variance okay thanks for that

[3:45:33] Trustee Elliott: Yeah, I would have asked about those same same three out of

[3:45:35] Trustee Elliott: the way to get them resolved. Okay, so we only have about 13.4. We have the trustee

[3:45:44] Trustee Elliott: and local expense report in May 25th, which I'm going to give you a little bit of information.

[3:45:50] Trustee Elliott: 13.5 is the adopted policies and standard

[3:45:52] Voice 12: resolutions information. We've got 13

[3:45:59] Trustee Elliott: .6 First

[3:46:00] Trustee Elliott: nation relationship building update is there anything else other than what we're working on

[3:46:05] Trustee Elliott: first um well those two beginning will probably disappear from our future projects report yeah

[3:46:12] Trustee Elliott: oh

[3:46:13] Voice 12: sorry no no you're moving out that's good let's keep going no that's right and it's just

[3:46:19] Voice 12: kind of stumbling here to those last items that are standing on the agenda so 14.1 is the active

[3:46:24] Voice 12: project list uh one uh 171 page 171. are

[3:46:32] Trustee Elliott: there any changes to any of these

[3:46:37] Trustee Elliott: projects will disappear all

[3:46:41] Voice 8: right we

[3:46:43] Trustee Elliott: can put dai dialogue

[3:46:44] Trustee Elliott: yeah

[3:46:46] Voice 5: those future projects won't disappear they'll remain there until they're you request

[3:46:56] Voice 5: them to be removed or they move to an active project and so because maybe they have their

[3:47:00] Voice 5: public charter yeah they'll for them one of those yeah

[3:47:04] Trustee Elliott: i see i'm trying to have that in place this

[3:47:06] Trustee Elliott: state thank

[3:47:07] Voice 14: you because i desperately want before i die the development

[3:47:12] Trustee Elliott: and tribal information bylaw

[3:47:13] Trustee Elliott: back on there because it comes up every time we have an application oh do you want the ai bylaw

[3:47:25] Voice 1: okay trustees we're on the final last stretch here 15.1 our next meeting is going to be

[3:47:30] Voice 1: september 4th at 10 30 at this location but that if we have

[3:47:35] Trustee Elliott: no further business

[3:47:36] Trustee Elliott: i really would like to follow up on katherine ambleton's presentation today at the public

[3:47:43] Trustee Elliott: on Brickyard Beach

[3:47:45] Voice 14: because she gave us some concrete information that we should be following

[3:47:50] Voice 14: that one and the reason I say this is because in the 1980s and in the 1990s the same thing

[3:47:57] Voice 14: happened at Brickyard Beach it sort of comes in waves where all of a sudden the beach will be

[3:48:02] Voice 14: ravaged for a whole year or a few months at a time and then they go away for a while then they come

[3:48:08] Voice 14: back and what's happening right down there right now it's even going on at night with lights but

[3:48:14] Voice 14: lighted boats coming in and lighting up for beach and whole families coming in and just ravaging

[3:48:21] Voice 14: beach it's so in the 1990s i was a trustee and fortunately at that time

[3:48:29] Voice 14: our MP, who means DFO, right? Our MP, who lived on Amherst, and he went directly to DFO,

[3:48:36] Voice 14: and he got them to come over here and actually start patrolling and sending boats over. And it

[3:48:43] Voice 14: was all taken care of so nicely because we had this amazing fast response from DFO,

[3:48:49] Voice 14: which we're not going to get now. But we did get it then. We also got an amazingly fast response

[3:48:55] Voice 14: with regard to the foreshore in BC Ministry of Environment from our MLA who was Dale Lovick at

[3:49:01] Voice 14: that time and he was he had all sorts of connections on Gabriola he also got on board

[3:49:08] Voice 14: and made sure that the province was looking after the beaches down there and checking out the you

[3:49:14] Voice 14: know the shoreline and whatever they needed to do so now here here it's come again and it will keep

[3:49:20] Voice 14: keep coming in waves until there is nothing left on that beach and so we do need to write

[3:49:27] Voice 14: some sort of support letter on this. Catherine Ambleton mentioned that she had contacted

[3:49:34] Trustee Elliott: DFO that they were doing a survey, not a survey of who's out there taking

[3:49:38] Voice 14: stuff like over

[3:49:40] Voice 14: you know undersized way too much, they're doing a survey apparently counting the clams

[3:49:45] Voice 14: on the beach. And the results are supposed to be available in August. So Catherine asked us if we

[3:49:55] Voice 14: could make those results public, if we could get those results sent to us, and I think we should

[3:50:00] Voice 14: do that. Well, she said if we could request those results

[3:50:04] Trustee Elliott: from DFO. Yes,

[3:50:05] Voice 14: and I think we should do

[3:50:06] Voice 14: to that and I think we should also somehow write something to DFO to say can you ensure enforcement

[3:50:16] Voice 14: of legal limits on this particular part of Gabriola because they don't seem to be doing

[3:50:22] Voice 14: that right now it's

[3:50:25] Trustee Elliott: yeah so if I may I in addition to all of that it isn't just DFO

[3:50:32] Trustee Elliott: DFO, Santa Monica Marine Division, is also monitoring and very actually concerned about

[3:50:40] Trustee Elliott: that area.

[3:50:41] Trustee Elliott: I think their conversations with DFO are, I'm not sure where things are at, but I think

[3:50:49] Trustee Elliott: they indicated, at least John White did, that they would like to not see any harvesting

[3:50:57] Trustee Elliott: on the beach or they want to take over all that.

[3:51:00] Voice 14: I would

[3:51:00] Voice 14: be so happy if they did.

[3:51:01] Voice 14: So

[3:51:01] Trustee Elliott: it's not just DFO that's monitoring.

[3:51:06] Trustee Elliott: I do think if we request staff right to DFO

[3:51:09] Trustee Elliott: and request information on the survey results and conclusions

[3:51:11] Trustee Elliott: and request information from previous surveys

[3:51:17] Trustee Elliott: and perhaps connect with an inquiry division on that.

[3:51:22] Trustee Elliott: Absolutely, yeah.

[3:51:24] Voice 8: Which we

[3:51:24] Voice 14: didn't even have that 20, 30 years ago.

[3:51:27] Voice 14: I'm so glad that we didn't have that.

[3:51:32] Trustee Elliott: So do you want this? You can move it, but yes, it's perfect. Is that what it was?

[3:51:39] Trustee Elliott: It messed up right to the info.

[3:51:43] Trustee Elliott: Apparently August.

[3:51:48] Trustee Elliott: August Brickyard Shellfish Survey Screen Area 17 Shellfish Survey Results and Conclusions.

[3:51:57] Trustee Elliott: or request information on previous surveys and connect us in the name of division on the matter

[3:52:02] Trustee Elliott: and then but we want to see those results

[3:52:11] Voice 3: yeah perfect

[3:52:12] Voice 14: and then we can make it up

[3:52:13] Voice 14: thank you for the reminder about the news i knew that we had emails down there

[3:52:23] Voice 14: i moved

[3:52:24] Voice 14: at the capitol island local trust committee request right to the park with

[3:52:30] Voice 14: official assumptions and request information on the august brickyard beach area 17 shellfish survey

[3:52:37] Voice 14: results and conclusions just results and request information on previous surveys

[3:52:45] Voice 14: and connect with the snanama marine division on the matter and report back to the local trust

[3:52:54] Voice 14: can

[3:52:55] Voice 5: you specify the request to the marine division right what do you want us to send

[3:53:02] Voice 5: the results to them or

[3:53:03] Voice 11: um

[3:53:04] Voice 5: it's

[3:53:05] Voice 1: yeah

[3:53:06] Trustee Elliott: what you need to know what connect with them on reports of

[3:53:10] Trustee Elliott: overfishing or over harvesting or it's more the direction of the jurisdiction and oversight over

[3:53:16] Trustee Elliott: that area yeah because i i think the letter writer was asking um you know she doesn't understand who

[3:53:24] Trustee Elliott: has jurisdiction and and if we can do anything at all well i think it's this is kind of part

[3:53:33] Trustee Elliott: of our ocp review as well is um for sure and there might be information from some

[3:53:41] Trustee Elliott: and every division of their intentions with that area.

[3:53:46] Trustee Elliott: And

[3:53:46] Voice 14: I think, you know what we could say?

[3:53:48] Voice 14: We could say, connect with the name of your main division

[3:53:54] Voice 14: regarding jurisdiction of this area.

[3:54:00] Trustee Elliott: Management, how about management?

[3:54:01] Voice 14: Yeah, management.

[3:54:02] Voice 14: Yes, even the area.

[3:54:05] Voice 14: Yeah, yeah.

[3:54:06] Voice 14: Because if they were managing it, I'd be so happy.

[3:54:10] Trustee Elliott: Oversight and management.

[3:54:11] Trustee Elliott: Okay, can I go to the Santa Monica Marine Division regarding oversight and management of the area and report back to the LTC. It's really just asking them what their, if it's in their scope of their projects and what they're doing, just so we know.

[3:54:31] Trustee Elliott: well on

[3:54:31] Voice 5: whether what their interest is regarding for care beach um

[3:54:36] Trustee Elliott: regarding or interests on their

[3:54:44] Trustee Elliott: interests regarding the management of the area okay yeah yeah their interest in the management

[3:54:51] Trustee Elliott: of the area okay sorry i'm going to send that to you okay so yeah i thought we

[3:54:57] Voice 8: nailed it but wait

[3:55:03] Voice 8: Great, all

[3:55:10] Voice 12: right, so through

[3:55:13] Voice 14: the readable more than

[3:55:14] Voice 14: I know that Gabriel the local trust committee request staff right to Department of Fisheries and Oceans and request information on the August Brickyard Beach area 17 shellfish survey results and request information on previous surveys and connect with the Sanema Marine Division.

[3:55:38] Voice 14: on their interests on the management of this area

[3:55:42] Voice 14: and report back to the local trust committee.

[3:55:48] Trustee Elliott: Is there a second?

[3:55:49] Trustee Elliott: Seconded by Trustee Elliott.

[3:55:51] Trustee Elliott: Discussion?

[3:55:54] Trustee Elliott: Both in all those in favor?

[3:55:57] Trustee Elliott: That carries.

[3:55:58] Trustee Elliott: Thank you so much for taking the time to follow up.

[3:56:01] Trustee Elliott: Thanks for coming.

[3:56:02] Trustee Elliott: All right, trustees, then our next meeting

[3:56:05] Trustee Elliott: is September 4th, 9.25, 10.30 in the space.

[3:56:09] Trustee Elliott: Can I assume we can adjourn through?

[3:56:13] Trustee Elliott: General consent?

[3:56:14] Trustee Elliott: Yes.

[3:56:15] Trustee Elliott: Excellent.

[3:56:16] Voice 14: And I'm going

[3:56:16] Trustee Elliott: to run you to the fair.

[3:56:17] Trustee Elliott: The meeting is adjourned.

[3:56:18] Trustee Elliott: And then come back and help clean up here.

[3:56:20] Trustee Elliott: All right.

[3:56:21] Trustee Elliott: We'll make sure you get that next fair because it's

[3:56:23] Voice 15: a long weekend Thursday.

[3:56:25] Trustee Elliott: Thanks for your patience, Chair, and everybody.

[3:56:29] Trustee Elliott: Thank you, guys.

[3:56:31] Trustee Elliott: Thank you, Stella.

[3:56:35] Voice 14: Rob Croker, lightning finger.

[3:56:38] Voice 14: Yeah, true.

[3:56:39] Voice 14: Now he's way faster.

[3:56:40] Voice 14: there's a lot you know you're starting i don't know

[3:56:44] Voice 7: i know

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        Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee 
Minutes of Regular Meeting 
 
Date:  
Location:  
July 31, 2025 
Gabriola Arts & Heritage Centre 
476 South Road, Gabriola Island, BC 
 
Members Present: Laura Patrick, Chair 
 Tobi Elliott, Trustee 
 Susan Yates, Trustee 
  
Staff Present: Renée Jamurat, Regional Planning Manager (electronic) 
 Stephen Baugh, Island Planner 
 Narissa Chadwick, Island Planner (electronic) 
 Lisa Millard, Meeting Administrator/Recorder 
  
Others Present: There were approximately 17 members of the public in attendance. 
 
1. CALL TO ORDER 
Chair Patrick called the meeting to order at 10:31 am.   
2. TERRITORIAL ACKNOWLEDGEMENT 
Chair Patrick acknowledged that the meeting was held on the territory of the Coast Salish 
First Nations. 
3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 
The following additions to the agenda were presented for consideration: 
12.1 Consideration of Minor Project to Rezone Densities in Heritage Areas 
12.2  Obligation of Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee re: Covenant EX113595 
 
By general consent, the agenda was approved as amended. 
4. REPORTS 
4.1 Trustee Reports 
Trustee Yates reported the following: 
• Attended meeting with Foresight Canada, a clean technology accelerator 
focussing on climate sustainability; 
• Attended joint Islands Trust Conservancy Board and Executive Committee 
meeting and highlighted discussion on collaboration with other agencies to 
strengthen Geographic Information System mapping resources; 
• Attended meeting with Gabriola Transportation Society and MLA Malcolmson to 
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loading for Drivers to Doctors, the dissolution of Ferry Advisory Committees, 
and safety issues at Descanso Bay terminal; 
• Attended Trust Council special meeting and highlighted First Reading of the 
draft Trust Policy Statement; and  
• Attended Trust Programs Committee meeting. 
 
Trustee Elliott reported the following: 
• Attended Trust Council special meeting to advance First Reading of the draft 
Trust Policy Statement to enable commencement of engagement; 
• Attended Regional Planning Committee meeting during which the Bylaw 
Compliance and Enforcement Policy 5.5.1 and Bylaw Compliance and 
Enforcement Best Practices Manual were advanced to Trust Council; 
• Attended joint Islands Trust Conservancy Board and Executive Committee 
meeting and highlighted discussion on mapping needs of Islands Trust; 
• Viewed a preview of Island Trust Freshwater Atlas which is a foundational 
component of the Islands Trust Freshwater Sustainability Strategy; and 
• The local Manu Canoe fundraiser raised over $4000 to support Tribal Journeys. 
4.2 Chair's Report 
Chair Patrick reported the following: 
• The draft Policy Statement was given First Reading and the public is encouraged 
to read the updated version available on the website and participate in local 
public engagement events; 
• A new Minister for the Ministry of Housing and Municipal Affairs has been 
announced; and 
• September Trust Council meeting will be held on Gabriola Island. 
4.3 Electoral Area Director’s Report 
Director Craig reported the following: 
• The Tiny Homes on Wheels clinic was accepted to be presented at the 
upcoming Union of BC Municipalities Convention; 
• Work on the Descanso Bay emergency wharf gangway has been delayed until 
later in the fall; 
• The Descanso Bay Regional Park Accessible Beach Access Feasibility Study has 
been completed and the Regional District is moving to next steps to review 
design possibilities and construction permit requirements; and 
• The Regional Affordable Housing Strategy was not supported by the Regional 
District of Nanaimo Board as municipalities are doing similar work. 
4.4 First Nations Reports 
Trustee Elliott noted Snuneymuxw First Nation received approximately 700 hectares 
of land located in the Mount Benson region as part of a treaty agreement with the 
provincial and federal governments on the return of land. 
5. PUBLIC COMMENTS 

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A member of the public spoke to the number of people harvesting bivalves on Brickyard 
Beach, the volume being harvested, and potential damage due to people walking over the 
intertidal zone and they have contacted the Department of Fisheries and Oceans (DFO) 
who indicated they will be at the location in August to survey the number of clams and 
oysters. The speaker asked the Local Trust Committee to contact DFO to request the 
results of the 2025 survey compared to a 2023 survey and that the results be made public. 
Prior to adjournment of the meeting, a Trustee stated support for the request and 
the following resolution was passed. 
GB-2025-053 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee request staff write to the 
Department of Fisheries and Oceans and request information on the August, 
2025 Brickyard Beach Area 17 shellfish survey results and conclusions, 
request information on previous surveys, and connect with the Snuneymuxw 
Marine Division on their interests on the management of the area, and report 
back to the Local Trust Committee. 
CARRIED 
A member of the public, whose family is from Snuneymuxw First Nation, expressed their 
concern about the ongoing issue of the protection of petroglyphs and sacred sites on 
Gabriola, stated they attended a meeting held on Gabriola with the Rate Payers Association 
in 2000 during which they experienced verbal abuse and racism, and noted that attitudes 
have been shifting towards support of Snuneymuxw presence. They asked what Islands 
Trust is doing to reflect the evolution of attitudes by way of protecting the sacred sites, 
petroglyphs, and First Nations culture on the island. 
The Local Trust Committee noted challenges in many current regulations which 
limit Trustees, the draft Policy Statement attempts to reflect what Trust Council and 
Local Trust Committees understand to be the damages of the past, staff are 
engaging with Snuneymuxw First Nation staff to look at regulatory tools that can be 
used to protect cultural heritage sites, and there is possibility of deferring decision 
making in certain circumstances where the protection of sacred sites if of 
preeminent importance to the Nation. 
A member of the public urged the Local Trust Committee to deny the Centre Stage Holdings 
Development Permit application and honour commitments to reconciliation and free prior 
and informed consent unless it is known there is an agreement with Snuneymuxw First 
Nation to cut trees and allow subsequent subdivision. They acknowledged the applicant 
has spent time and money making the application; however, the applicant’s assertions that 
no tree removal is intended to occur within the boundaries of the archaeological site is a 
weak protection for an area of cultural and spiritual importance. 
 
A member of the public addressed correspondence on the agenda regarding the Mudge 
Island survey results and asked the Local Trust Committee to consider the survey seriously 
and have meaningful conversation about bylaw amendments. 
 
A member of the public stated they arrived to Gabriola in 1997 shortly after petroglyphs 
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then the public has gradually learned over years there are different ways of being respectful 
of the petroglyphs and First Nations culture, noting it has been a long process. 
A member of the public noted Indigenous People are asking to get a lot done and the 
biggest issue might be having tax payers fund the requests. They stated ongoing concern 
about commercial truck use on McCollum Road and the amount of noise being made. 
A Trustee replied complaints of trucking and dumping of soil have been received but 
the activity is not in contravention of the bylaw as there is no Soil Deposit Bylaw in 
place at this time; however, a bylaw enforcement investigation is continuing and 
activity is being monitored. 
A member of the public expressed concern about First Nations cultural heritage sites and 
heron nesting areas and asked the Local Trust Committee to deny the Centre Stage 
Holdings application. 
A member of the public encouraged the Local Trust Committee to move forward with 
reconciliation and consider Indigenous protected and conserved areas as a planning tool 
for areas that are being developed. 
A member of the public shared concerns expressed about the Centre Stage Development 
plan and the geotechnical report related to the stability of the bank following the removal of 
the trees. They noted tree removal done previously resulted in a change to runoff patterns 
affecting the properties below the slope, moving water can now be heard, and there is 
increased truck traffic on Garland and Lackhaven Roads. They asked if the developer is 
intending on using the existing road of if other roadways are to be part of the development. 
A Trustee replied the entire area has a grandfathered driveway that is not a road and 
construction of roads would be part of the subdivision project. 
A Trustee read an email written by a former Trustee into the public record which stated the 
previous Local Trust Committee wrote a letter from the Chair to the Centre Stage Holding 
applicants which was shared publicly with Snuneymuxw First Nation and other local 
governments. The letter made clear that no development should be permitted on the land 
in question without consent from Snuneymuxw First Nation and without clear indication of 
said consent no action should be taken to advance the application. 
A Trustee read a letter from a resident that lives at the base of the slope below the Centre 
Stage Holdings property which spoke to concerns about the preservation of the sacred 
burial caves, petroglyphs, and middens on the land in question, noted that the applicants 
had broken bylaws by logging during summer shut down, logging near the petroglyphs has 
exacerbated green growth causing deterioration of the sandstone and destroyed the orca 
eating a fish petroglyph in one year, logging on the top of the cliff has caused it to 
deteriorate and send large rocks down slope, trees have become destabilized and are 
falling downhill towards properties below, runoff has increased, and the property owners 
do not respond to written communication. The writer expressed hope that the land be held 
in trust of the Snuneymuxw First Nation. 
A member of the public stated the Local Trust Committee is supposed to come up with 
bylaws that are enforceable and they have contacted Bylaw Enforcement about 
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The Chair stated if the speaker is having issues with staff they need to contact 
Islands Trust Chief Administrative Officer. 
The meeting was recessed for a break at 11:45 p.m. and reconvened at 11:50 p.m. 
6. MINUTES 
6.1 Local Trust Committee Minutes dated June 26, 2025 – for adoption 
By general consent, the Local Trust Committee meeting minutes of June 
26, 2025 were adopted. 
6.2 Section 26 Resolutions-Without-Meeting Report - none 
6.3 Advisory Planning Commission Minutes - none 
7. BUSINESS ARISING FROM MINUTES 
7.1 Follow-up Action List dated July 24, 2025 
Received for information.  
8. DELEGATIONS - none 
9. APPLICATIONS AND REFERRALS 
9.1 GB-DP-2021.1 (Centre Stage Holdings Inc.) - Staff Report 
The Planner summarized the staff report and highlighted the following: 
• The application seeks a Development Permit for proposed tree cutting and 
subdivision in Development Permit Area 6 – Escarpment Areas; 
• The Development Permit Area has been established for the protection of 
development from hazardous conditions; 
• The Local Trust Committee requested information about options to tie the 
development permit’s permission for tree cutting to the Ministry of 
Transportation and Transit approval of the subdivision; 
• Staff have investigated this question and found that conditions must be either 
directly linked to a Development Permit guideline or recommendation of the 
qualified professionals; 
• The Local Trust Committee also requested a revision to the draft permit to add a 
reference to the BC Heritage Conservation Act which has been included in the 
attached draft permit; and 
• The guidelines of the Development Permit have been met. 
 
Discussion ensued and the following comments were noted: 
• The objective of Development Permit Area 6 is to protect development from 
natural hazards including terrain, instability, erosion, land slippage, rock falls, 
subsidence debris flows, and flooding or changes to stormwater runoff due to 
development or in the proximity to the lands with excessive slope conditions. 
• It is not just the guidelines of the Development Permit Area that must be met, 
the objective must be met as well and it is the job of the Local Trust Committee 
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• The objective states it is to protect development not “the development” and 
also refers to lands in proximity to the slope; 
• Tree removal in the area has caused damage below the slope and similar 
damage would occur with further tree removal; 
• The permit authorizes subdivision of the subject parcel and removal of select 
tress and this ties the development permit to the subdivision permit; 
• The Local Trust Committee has stated in 2021 and 2024 that it does not consent 
to, or approve, any development unless Snuneymuxw First Nation consents to 
the entire development; 
• An archaeology inventory search shows apparent large areas that have been 
identified has having high potential for archaeological significance;   
• The Section 219 Covenant, in which the property owner has agreed to certain 
conditions of rezoning, indicates there are legal obligations which state, in part, 
that land shall not be used for any purpose unless the owner is in compliance of 
the conditions outlined in Schedule B; 
• Development downslope is not protected from development above and 
evidence can be found in the reports from people that live below the slope; 
• Based on the geotechnical report the guidelines have technically been met; 
• There is question if the geotechnical report completed in 2021 is still relevant 
based on climate change and recent severe weather events; 
• There are significant impacts in hazards to development downslope; 
• The Local Government Act states “an Official Community Plan may designate 
development permit areas for one or more of the following purposes: 
(a)protection of the natural environment, its ecosystems and biological 
diversity; (b)protection of development from hazardous conditions”; and 
“specify guidelines respecting the manner by which the special conditions or 
objectives will be addressed.” 
• The application does not meet the objectives as evidenced from many that have 
homes and property that have been impacted by logging in the Development 
Permit Area and throughout the property; 
• Archaeology sites have already been disturbed by logging; and 
• Development is not just today’s development and the Snuneymuxw First Nation 
developed a village on the slope which should be protected from hazards as per 
the Official Community Plan. 
 
GB-2025-054 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee deny Development Permit 
Application GB-DP-2021.1 because the objective of Development Permit 
Area 6 - Escarpment Areas in the Gabriola Official Community Plan has not 
been met, because development of neighbouring and down slope residents 
and their properties, and the Snuneymuxw First Nation’s historical village 
tle:ltx which the Local Trust Committee considers is development that 
should be protected, are not protected against hazards such as flooding and 
slope instability caused by the tree cutting activity.  
CARRIED 
 

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A Trustee noted that the Development Permit Area 6 is a small area of the property 
and does not preclude the land owner from cutting trees on the property that are 
outside of the Development Permit Area. 
10. LOCAL TRUST COMMITTEE PROJECTS - none 
11. CORRESPONDENCE 
(Correspondence received concerning current applications or projects is posted to the LTC 
webpage) 
11.1 Email dated July 7, 2025 from D. Elkington regarding Jets Flying over Gabriola 
Island 
 GB-2025-055 
 It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee invite Regional District of 
Nanaimo Director Craig to sign a joint letter from the Gabriola Island Local 
Trust Committee Chair to NAV Canada, with copy to Nanaimo Airport 
Authority, stating concerns from Gabriola residents because of changes to 
flight path directly over Gabriola Island and increased noise disruption. 
 CARRIED 
11.2 Letter dated July 17, 2025 from N. Bailey, Board Chair, Nanaimo Ladysmith 
Public Schools Board of Education regarding Advocacy Letter to Support a New 
Build of Nanaimo District Secondary School 
GB-2025-056 
 It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee request the Chair write a letter 
of support for funding in the next provincial budget for a new build of 
Nanaimo District Secondary School to the Ministry of Education and 
Ministry of Infrastructure, copied to Board Chair of Nanaimo Ladysmith 
Public School Board of Education. 
CARRIED 
11.3 Email dated July 21, 2025 from Mudge Island Community Association regarding 
Mudge Island Bylaw Survey Results 
Trustees noted that the work done is very detailed and helpful and consideration of 
a Mudge Island targeted Land Use Bylaw review is being undertaken; however, there 
are other projects also being considered for a minor project, staff resources are 
limited, and in the interim bylaw enforcement files have been put into abeyance 
which allows time. 
By general consent discussion on item 11.3 was tabled until after 
discussion of New Business. 
Discussion continued about the potential for a minor project. 
GB-2025-057 
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that the Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee request staff prepare a 
project charter for a minor project of targeted amendments to Mudge Island 
Land Use Bylaw No. 228, scoping in the priorities identified through Mudge 
Island Community Bylaw Survey and correspondence from Mudge Island 
Community Association to the Local Trust Committee dated July 18 2025.  
CARRIED 
12. NEW BUSINESS  
12.1 Consideration of Minor Project to Rezone Densities in Heritage Areas - 
Discussion 
Discussion ensued and the following comments were recorded: 
• It is the authority of the Local Trust Committee to consider zoning with regard to 
heritage areas; 
• The Local Trust Committee is engaging with the community on the type of 
growth they want to see and what to scale back on; 
• There are densities that have potential to be subdivided;  
• There is need to prioritize community engagement on subdivision potential of 
PID: 003-134-806 NORTH EAST 1/4 OF SECTION 3 GABRIOLA ISLAND NANAIMO 
DISTRICT EXCEPT PARCEL A (DD 77326I); 
• The Planner noted staff are currently working on engagement materials related 
to subdivision and it is currently part of the major project; 
• Cultural heritage protection can be included as one of the considerations of 
subdivision potential; 
• Rezoning a specific parcel prior to completion of the Official Community Plan 
review project would be considered a separate project and legal opinion should 
be considered; 
• Trustees would like to look at different ways that a rezoning might be considered 
and options related specifically to a property containing cultural heritage sites; 
• Rezoning, transferring densities, and potential for returning a portion of 
community amenity that was given in exchange for densities needs to be 
considered; and 
• The Local Trust Committee seeks to be procedurally fair to all parties.  
 
GB-2025-058 
It was MOVED and SECONDED 
that the Gabriola Local Trust Committee request staff to investigate and 
report back on options to transfer or remove densities from heritage areas, 
including non-archaeological heritage sites, and specifically from PID: 003-
134-806 NORTH EAST 1/4 OF SECTION 3 GABRIOLA ISLAND NANAIMO 
DISTRICT EXCEPT PARCEL A (DD 77326I) AND ACCEPT PLANS EPP19453 
AND EPP66666. 
CARRIED 
12.2  Obligation of Gabriola Local Trust Committee re: Covenant EX113595 - 
Discussion 
  Discussion ensued and the following comments were noted: 

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• The Covenant was entered into in 2005, it places a number of obligations on the 
property owner, and the Local Trust Committee has a responsibility to see that 
the covenant is discharged; 
• It should be determined if the conditions of the covenant been met and if 
provisions for protection of heritage have been met; 
• The covenant states the owner shall not subdivide the land until satisfactory 
provision has been made by the owner to provide protection to First Nations 
archaeology sites on the land;  
• Satisfactory provision to provide protection of the First Nation archaeology sites 
needs to be defined and considered; and 
• The minimum buffer areas to archaeology sites are supposed to be 50 metres, 
and it is the responsibility of covenant holder to ensure buffer areas are being 
met. 
GB-2025-059 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee request staff report 
back and seek legal advice, if necessary, on whether the terms of 
the Section 219 restrictive covenant EX113595 for PID 003-134-806 
and PID 003-134-792 held by the Gabriola Local Trust Committee, 
have been met on these matters: 
a)  the obligations of the Local Trust Committee to ensure the 
protection of archaeological sites on the Lands as stipulated 
of the covenant, 
b)  whether it has been determined that the owner has made 
satisfactory provision for the protection of First Nations 
archaeological sites, through a covenant over the Land or 
other instrument,  
c)  by which means the Gabriola Local Trust Committee would 
ensure the conditions of the covenant in Schedule B are met, 
and  
d)  if all conditions in Schedule B as stipulated in the covenant 
must be met before further alterations to the Land or 
development is carried out in anticipation of subdivision.  
CARRIED 
GB-2025-060 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee request staff use 
funds for review of Section 19 restrictive covenant EX113595 from 
the Gabriola local general legal budget. 
CARRIED 
13. STAFF REPORTS 
13.1 Trust Council Bylaw No. 197 - Local Trust Committee Meeting Procedures 
Bylaw, Update Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee Meeting Procedure Bylaw 
- Request for Decision 

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A new Meeting Procedures Bylaw was adopted by Trust Council which applies to all 
Local Trust Committees and readings are required to a repeal the current Gabriola 
Meeting Procedures Bylaw which is superseded by the Trust Council bylaw.  
GB-2025-061 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee give Bylaw 323, cited as 
“Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee Meeting Procedures Repeal Bylaw 
No. 323, 2025”, First Reading. 
CARRIED 
GB-2025-062 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee give Bylaw 323, cited as 
“Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee Meeting Procedures Repeal Bylaw 
No. 323, 2025”, Second Reading. 
CARRIED 
GB-2025-063 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee give Bylaw 323, cited as 
“Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee Meeting Procedures Repeal Bylaw 
No. 323, 2025”, Third Reading. 
CARRIED 
GB-2025-064 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee forward Bylaw 323, cited as 
“Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee Meeting Procedures Repeal Bylaw 
No. 323, 2025” to the Islands Trust Executive Committee for consideration 
of approval. 
CARRIED 
13.2 Trust Conservancy Report - none 
13.3 Applications Report dated July 24, 2025 
  The Planner provided a verbal update. 
13.4 Trustee and Local Expense Report dated May, 2025 
Received for information. 
13.5 Adopted Policies and Standing Resolutions 
Received for information. 
13.6 First Nations Relationship Building Update 
Received for information. 
13.7 Climate Change Action Update 
Received for information. 

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13.8 Local Trust Committee Webpage - none 
14. WORK PROGRAM 
14.1 Active Projects Report dated July 24, 2025 
Received for information. 
14.2 Future Projects Report dated July 24, 2025 
Received for information. 
15. UPCOMING MEETINGS 
15.1 Next Regular Meeting Scheduled for Thursday, September 4, 2025 at 10:30 am 
at the Gabriola Arts and Heritage Centre 
16. ADJOURNMENT 
By general consent, the meeting was adjourned at 2:28 p.m. 
 
 
 
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Laura Patrick, Chair 
 
Certified Correct: 
 
 
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Lisa Millard, Meeting Administrator/Recorder