Islands Trust Council community information meeting, September 9, 2025

[0:00:00] Voice 10: okay well good afternoon i will call this meeting of the galeano island local trust committee to

[0:00:07] Voice 10: order um invite everyone that we're recording the meeting and it will be and live streaming

[0:00:14] Voice 10: and it's going to be posted on the island's trusted website i want to begin the meeting

[0:00:19] Voice 10: today by acknowledging that we're fortunate to be able to gather here today in the territory of

[0:00:24] Voice 10: coast salish peoples and in particular the penelicate tribe the stewards of these lands

[0:00:29] Voice 10: and waters of time immemorial. Land and territory acknowledgments are important today because

[0:00:36] Voice 10: colonialism is not just a historical promise ongoing in present day. First Nation title,

[0:00:47] Voice 10: although recognized in Canadian law, has yet to significantly shape First Nations Canadian

[0:00:51] Voice 10: and relationships in many areas and the ongoing work of reconciliation um it's part of the

[0:01:00] Voice 10: priorities of islands trust and i i'm actually really happy to say that this local trust

[0:01:06] Voice 10: committee is has broken new ground um with cooperation with with the malacca tribe really

[0:01:14] Voice 10: um engaging with us and us with them and i think we're in as good a place uh as any that i'm aware

[0:01:21] Voice 10: of across the islands trust area so um and really huge appreciation of ken thomas uh counselor from

[0:01:29] Voice 10: malcolm has been such a big part of that at almost all of our meetings and gazing with us and the

[0:01:35] Voice 10: willingness of chief and council to come to our meetings and to invite us to theirs uh it's been

[0:01:40] Voice 10: really really good and i think we're i think we're in a pretty good place at this point um and as we

[0:01:47] Voice 10: continue to move forward together so really appreciative of that um my name is tim peterson

[0:01:52] Voice 10: i'm elected on mesquite island and the chair of the galliano island local trust committee and uh

[0:01:59] Voice 10: also with us today our local trustees ben memberly elise gogro and our planner kim stockville

[0:02:06] Voice 10: and online helping us out uh carly whitney and um emily uh it's not she's taken an inway

[0:02:21] Voice 10: i forgot her last name i apologize brian thank you um so we do have an agenda before us today

[0:02:30] Voice 10: and i'll look to trustees to see if there's any amendments to today's agenda no okay

[0:02:35] Voice 10: in that case

[0:02:37] Voice 10: i'll take it by general consent we'll adopt the agenda as presented and just for our recorder

[0:02:45] Voice 10: i'm going to let um you know last three four five six seven seven people now uh members of the

[0:02:52] Voice 10: public in attendance so next we have trustee reports we'd like to go first go ahead of a

[0:03:01] Voice 9: first signature uh it's been a busy and wonderful summer i'm looking forward to the fall slowing

[0:03:08] Voice 9: I was delighted to attend our community picnic where I had the honour of serving as judge

[0:03:19] Voice 9: for our world-famous zucchini races.

[0:03:23] Voice 9: Congratulations to all winners, there were almost 30 entries and the winners were Clayton

[0:03:28] Voice 9: Castile, Erin Farquhar and Finn Bryant all were placing their respective categories.

[0:03:34] Voice 9: works. I also continue my work with the accessibility committee

[0:03:38] Voice 9: that we meet tonight. We're developing developing an

[0:03:43] Voice 9: accessibility action plan for the honest trust. And as I

[0:03:47] Voice 9: mentioned, in this month's active page report, we're

[0:03:50] Voice 9: looking at more members of the public to join this advisory

[0:03:53] Voice 9: committee. We're quite happy to hear at the last executive

[0:03:57] Voice 9: committee meeting, that is confirmed that vice chair mod

[0:04:00] Voice 9: will be joining the committee, and that the distressed chair

[0:04:04] Voice 9: where Patrick will join us on this exit issue.

[0:04:09] Voice 9: Anyone interested in joining,

[0:04:11] Voice 9: please come see me or work with the Accessibility Committee on the Island Trust website.

[0:04:16] Voice 9: Looking ahead to tomorrow, September 10th, there will be a virtual Town Hall,

[0:04:22] Voice 9: the draft Trust Policy Statement as part of the Islands 2050 engagement process.

[0:04:29] Voice 9: As you know, the policy statement hasn't had any meaningful update in more than 25 years and this is a really important opportunity to learn about it, learn about the draft and to ask questions and to share your feedback.

[0:04:44] Voice 9: Also later this week on September 12th, I'll be speaking along with Janine Bermenson at the Yellow House Art Centre as part of their 2IC Art exhibit.

[0:04:53] Voice 9: it will be our talk will focus on our islands are being reshaped by climate change and the

[0:04:59] Voice 9: responsibilities that we have um to the future generations everyone is welcome to attend and

[0:05:07] Voice 9: then next week from september 16th to the 18th um we'll be attending oh we'll be attending trust

[0:05:13] Voice 9: council's quarterly meeting on gabriela i look forward to seeing gabriela again but i also heard

[0:05:18] Voice 9: heard at the ecb that dunlake will just cancel and i especially look forward to hearing from him

[0:05:25] Voice 9: i've been admiring his work for many years he serves presently as special counsel to the premier

[0:05:30] Voice 9: on reconciliation that's my report thank you

[0:05:34] Voice 6: thank you just to neighborly thanks visa

[0:05:38] Voice 6: yeah a lot to report for me um it's great to have august off it was great to go around the

[0:05:45] Voice 6: other islands and enjoy all the people on the other islands and i i will say sort of southern

[0:05:51] Voice 6: wealth island is my territory right i mean of all the people i know and so it's great to have

[0:05:56] Voice 6: august to do that um a couple of things i got off the phone with crd last night um we're hoping to

[0:06:02] Voice 6: hear about our bc builds grant in two weeks so that'll be be nice to hear if that comes up and

[0:06:09] Voice 6: And lastly, there's been a lot of chatter in my ear about a Crownland application for NOLS.

[0:06:18] Voice 6: And so I just wanted to put a bit of context on what NOLS is.

[0:06:25] Voice 6: NOLS is a nonprofit organization that teaches outdoor skills, leadership, and wilderness ethics.

[0:06:34] Voice 6: Now, they've been operating

[0:06:36] Voice 6: in BC since 1995.

[0:06:39] Voice 6: This is a renewal of a 20-year, so every 20 years they have to renew their application

[0:06:45] Voice 6: with the federal government for access on Crown lands to where they do kayak up and

[0:06:52] Voice 6: down the coast.

[0:06:57] Voice 6: One of the chatter has been sort of negative towards Knowles.

[0:07:01] Voice 6: I have no position whatsoever one way or the other.

[0:07:06] Voice 6: it's just that I would have people

[0:07:09] Voice 6: keep it in context

[0:07:10] Voice 6: they've been here for 25 years

[0:07:12] Voice 6: they do kayak tours

[0:07:14] Voice 6: are they affiliated with the U.S. military

[0:07:18] Voice 6: loosely

[0:07:18] Voice 6: right

[0:07:20] Voice 6: should this application come under scrutiny

[0:07:23] Voice 6: absolutely

[0:07:23] Voice 6: I mean there's a lot of First Nations in the territories

[0:07:26] Voice 6: that they're asking for permission from

[0:07:28] Voice 6: the only one in our area is the Edith Point

[0:07:31] Voice 6: right

[0:07:31] Voice 6: a couple on Mesquite

[0:07:36] Voice 6: And the rest are all north and west coast, which is where they traditionally do their

[0:07:40] Voice 6: tours.

[0:07:42] Voice 6: So I would urge everybody who has concerns or wants to know more about it to contact

[0:07:47] Voice 6: Elizabeth May.

[0:07:48] Voice 6: This is a federal jurisdiction and she will be able to inform way better than probably

[0:07:56] Voice 6: any of us can.

[0:07:57] Voice 6: But like I say, I just wanted to put it in a little bit of context.

[0:08:02] Voice 6: They've been operating at BC since 1988 and closed here since 1995, so yeah, quite a lot

[0:08:12] Voice 6: of tech.

[0:08:13] Voice 6: So yeah, great to be back.

[0:08:16] Voice 6: Thanks.

[0:08:17] Voice 10: Great.

[0:08:18] Voice 10: Thank you for that.

[0:08:19] Voice 10: So for my chair's report, I'll just start where you left off.

[0:08:22] Voice 10: There's a Laskini Local Trust Committee has a referral for one site on Laskini.

[0:08:29] Voice 10: I know there's two on TechSata.

[0:08:31] Voice 10: There's definitely been a lot of chatter.

[0:08:33] Voice 10: that are throughout the islands around it.

[0:08:36] Voice 10: Again, upon the skinny there,

[0:08:40] Voice 10: my position is to forward the concerns

[0:08:43] Voice 10: that we're hearing from the community to the province.

[0:08:46] Voice 10: The province is actually a mystery of water lands

[0:08:51] Voice 10: and however they have,

[0:08:52] Voice 10: they're gonna be the proving body for those applications.

[0:08:59] Voice 10: But also wanted to mention that trust council

[0:09:02] Voice 10: give first reading to the draft policy statement in on july 29th which means that referrals to

[0:09:08] Voice 10: first nations and other agencies has launched um trust council committed to a six-month public

[0:09:15] Voice 10: engagement period and there'll be online and paper surveys and each local trust committee has

[0:09:21] Voice 10: developed a determination of what level of local engagement seems appropriate everything for

[0:09:28] Voice 10: presentations at the town hall section of local trust committee to standalone events

[0:09:33] Voice 10: and in due course we will have the um presentation here on galliano

[0:09:40] Voice 10: uh uh trustee govro mentioned the webinar tomorrow night um just uh remind that you

[0:09:48] Voice 10: need to register in advance just by going to the website if you're interested in attending

[0:09:52] Voice 10: um trust council next week um agenda is going to include the disposition of a number of

[0:10:01] Voice 10: recommendations for the 2022 governance report uh the cao is going to brief on the current

[0:10:07] Voice 10: operational review we'll be looking at a early version of some of the budget items

[0:10:13] Voice 10: and committee chair reports and a bias law compliance and enforcement policy review

[0:10:18] Voice 10: you um i'm also excited that douglas white is coming to speak to trust council i had the

[0:10:27] Voice 10: opportunity to attend a talk by him last fall on gabriela his cd is hugely impressive he's been

[0:10:36] Voice 10: a lawyer for many years he's a former counselor former chief of this new name

[0:10:44] Voice 1: a

[0:10:44] Voice 10: nation and he'll be talking about islands trust and first nations relationships and partnerships

[0:10:51] Voice 10: and i think that especially as someone who has the ear of the premier is an indigenous person

[0:10:59] Voice 10: is a lawyer is a former chief and counselor his broad range of experience i think has

[0:11:08] Voice 10: a lot to offer for trustees to to think about and there's gonna be a lot of learning going

[0:11:13] Voice 10: on he's just and he's also incredibly engaging speaker he's just really fun to listen to um

[0:11:21] Voice 10: also next week the executive committee is going to meet with the new minister for housing and

[0:11:25] Voice 10: municipal affairs uh christine boyle um just a early introductory meeting and she's been

[0:11:32] Voice 10: um to shuffle the cabinet shuffle uh so she's the new minister there um and we've also received

[0:11:39] Voice 10: I received confirmation of meetings with ministry staff

[0:11:43] Voice 10: at the Union of BC Municipalities conference later in the month.

[0:11:48] Voice 10: Water, land and resource, sure ship,

[0:11:51] Voice 10: specifically on Crown land leases and referrals,

[0:11:54] Voice 10: which is a topic that's of interest well before the Knowles application

[0:12:00] Voice 10: garnered so much attention,

[0:12:02] Voice 10: but certainly every island I've been to,

[0:12:05] Voice 10: to the local community is very interested in any Crown leases

[0:12:10] Voice 10: and any disposition of Crown,

[0:12:12] Voice 10: so-called Crown lands on the islands.

[0:12:15] Voice 10: And of course, there's an extremely high level of interest

[0:12:18] Voice 10: from First Nations, and they use Crown lands advisedly

[0:12:25] Voice 10: with advice from the, I've had from First Nations

[0:12:29] Voice 10: and how they feel about it.

[0:12:30] Voice 10: So it's a bit of a hot button issue,

[0:12:33] Voice 10: well before the Knowles thing.

[0:12:35] Voice 10: so we're we're happy to have that meeting coming we're also going to be meeting with bc assessment

[0:12:40] Voice 10: um we want to understand better the process on islands and the impacts of the ability or

[0:12:47] Voice 10: inability to insure properties with regards to how that might or should affect assessed values

[0:12:54] Voice 10: i don't know um if that's been uh really a topic that's come to the fore on galliano so much but

[0:13:01] Voice 10: i've definitely heard across the islands people are increasingly having difficulty securing

[0:13:07] Voice 10: insurance at all in some cases or in very high rates um we'll also be meeting with uh

[0:13:18] Voice 10: municipal affairs staff um the housing needs assessments that came out the methodology does

[0:13:24] Voice 10: not seem uh like it's as applicable to the islands as it might be and when we look at the expense

[0:13:34] Voice 10: We're basically requesting that if we're going to spend that kind of money that the province

[0:13:40] Voice 10: helps support at least consideration of a methodology that's more appropriate for the

[0:13:46] Voice 10: islands and also as the housing needs of islands and rural communities are different and also

[0:13:56] Voice 10: regulation of tiny homes on wheels um ministry staff have also been scheduled to present at

[0:14:05] Voice 10: december trust council on the short-term rental regulations and um opting into the principal

[0:14:11] Voice 10: residence requirement a few islands have done so um but uh executive committee thought it'd be good

[0:14:17] Voice 10: for trustees from across the trust area to have an opportunity to have a presentation and some

[0:14:23] Voice 10: and questions for someone from the ministry to really sort of dig into what some of the

[0:14:29] Voice 10: implications are there's i think there's probably pros and cons and then there's no one size fits

[0:14:35] Voice 10: all uh much as the province likes there is and then finally i just want to remind everyone that

[0:14:42] Voice 10: at the end of the month here on september 30th is the national day for truth and reconciliation

[0:14:47] Voice 10: reconciliation, even though time goes by quickly. This is actually a new step for Canada to have

[0:14:56] Voice 10: a day that recognizes and really gives us an opportunity nationally to pause and think about

[0:15:05] Voice 10: the importance of truth and reconciliation. That's an important thing to think about.

[0:15:12] Voice 10: I know when I wear the orange shirt myself, it's to help remind me and others that

[0:15:18] Voice 10: But a lot of history in Canada, and we're still in the middle of history.

[0:15:24] Voice 10: We have a long way to go, and working together is the only solution.

[0:15:30] Voice 10: So I will leave that there for my report.

[0:15:35] Voice 10: And we have no electoral area today, a director today.

[0:15:41] Voice 10: And if there's anything anyone wants to bring up for First Nations report.

[0:15:46] Voice 7: Now look, it's very glad to be a part of all of this, and they're very quick, basically,

[0:15:51] Voice 7: because we had a major gap last week, so.

[0:15:54] Voice 10: Yeah, and it's a busy time of year for everyone.

[0:15:58] Voice 10: Okay, so next up we have a town hall and questions session.

[0:16:02] Voice 10: Just to remind everyone to speak to the issues, not to individuals, preferably to what's on today's agenda.

[0:16:11] Voice 10: other than that to what's in the jurisdiction of the local trust committee and finally what's in

[0:16:16] Voice 10: the jurisdiction of islands trust um please be succinct and to the point as possible and i'll

[0:16:23] Voice 10: look for a show of hands oh and use

[0:16:26] Voice 1: respectful language

[0:16:26] Voice 10: uh speak to trustees not staff and i'll

[0:16:30] Voice 10: just look for a show of hands to see uh who would like to address the committee today so one two

[0:16:36] Voice 10: All right, I'll start with you, Steve, and you're first off, Mark.

[0:16:40] Voice 10: Thank you, Chair.

[0:16:43] Voice 6: For quite some time, I have been concerned about the way that staff approaches some applications.

[0:16:51] Voice 6: They seem to regard them as an immaculate application and

[0:16:57] Voice 5: then regard it in a vacuum

[0:17:00] Voice 5: without any or very little community contact.

[0:17:07] Voice 5: and one example before us is the really dvp for

[0:17:13] Voice 10: constructing a hard structure

[0:17:19] Voice 6: on the shoreline to prevent erosion first

[0:17:24] Voice 10: question is why was parks and recreation

[0:17:27] Voice 10: commission on galliano not advised that this application as

[0:17:32] Voice 5: it is a vapor and is charged with

[0:17:34] Voice 5: maintaining a public site with public dollars and they just seem to have been forgotten

[0:17:42] Voice 5: in the application. The reason why I ask is the shore access at Arbutus

[0:17:53] Voice 5: is being affected by the same type

[0:17:56] Voice 6: of shore erosion problems as the subject property

[0:18:00] Voice 6: property, which is one property over? And

[0:18:06] Voice 5: secondly, why wasn't the owner of the cable

[0:18:10] Voice 5: that comes ashore in the shore access advised of the application?

[0:18:16] Voice 6: A question about the engineering

[0:18:18] Voice 6: report. Did it take into consideration the potential effects of deflection or reflection

[0:18:27] Voice 6: reflection of wave action with the installation of the hard approach to

[0:18:34] Voice 5: protect the shoreline.

[0:18:36] Voice 5: There is a potential example of unintended consequences of accelerated erosion in

[0:18:45] Voice 6: another area,

[0:18:46] Voice 6: area, Morning Beach. Within the last 10 years, LCC approved a hard shoreline

[0:18:55] Voice 10: erosion protection

[0:18:56] Voice 10: on Morning Beach, and we now have significant polarity erosion

[0:19:00] Voice 6: at the shore access on Downwood

[0:19:03] Voice 6: Beach. Did the engineering study for this particular application look at those potential

[0:19:11] Voice 6: potential impacts. And thirdly, the staff report makes absolutely no reference to sections

[0:19:20] Voice 6: 3.5.21 and 3.5.26 of the draft Island Trust Policy Statement, nor

[0:19:30] Voice 6: does it refer to potential

[0:19:32] Voice 6: conflict with the previous draft of the Policy

[0:19:35] Voice 5: Statement. Something is missing in the staff

[0:19:39] Voice 5: report. Thank you.

[0:19:42] Voice 5: Hey, thank you. Sandy.

[0:19:44] Voice 8: Yeah, I was noticing when I was reading this stuff this morning that the items trust policy statement by law referral form,

[0:19:54] Voice 8: it doesn't include the Federal Agency of Crown Indigenous Relations and Urban Affairs Canada under federal agencies,

[0:20:01] Voice 8: and I don't see any referrals to First Nations at all.

[0:20:16] Voice 10: So Dan, I can't speak to the federal piece, I don't know if staff here can, but I can

[0:20:23] Voice 10: tell you that there has been a bunch of consultation with First Nations that has been incorporated

[0:20:31] Voice 10: it into this draft certainly maybe not everything um but there has been a bunch of engagement so

[0:20:40] Voice 10: far that is reflected in the draft and um as i mentioned in my chair's report uh now that the

[0:20:47] Voice 10: draft has received first reading it goes back out to nations and other agencies for referral

[0:20:53] Voice 10: and uh maybe on the break i'll uh i'll have a chat with you and get get the uh the federal

[0:21:02] Voice 10: agencies that you think are missing and then i can refer to uh senior staff and see if that's

[0:21:07] Voice 10: something we could do should do and if it's an oversight or there's some explanation for that

[0:21:18] Voice 8: you know it's now in draft form and you know i don't know which first nations have been

[0:21:24] Voice 8: consulted i would just like to have that particular uh bylaw referred to first nations

[0:21:32] Voice 8: because now it's kind of official in a way it's gone past first meeting so they might have some

[0:21:39] Voice 8: interest in that and i'm sure yeah

[0:21:42] Voice 10: and and all the nations in the trust area um did put input

[0:21:48] Voice 10: into the draft and are now going to have the draft yeah

[0:21:52] Voice 8: referred back to the nbc and they're being

[0:21:59] Voice 9: sorry

[0:22:00] Voice 6: yeah just sort of comment on this too so this draft did go to first nations

[0:22:08] Voice 6: and I've always been critical with how this process has been being played out because

[0:22:13] Voice 6: now it's going to all of these other agencies it's coming to the public the only way to get

[0:22:19] Voice 6: it to the public was to give it first reading that's that's the only

[0:22:22] Voice 6: step that we knew that

[0:22:23] Voice 6: we were afforded to give it to the public it's clear that regardless of where we go from here

[0:22:29] Voice 6: it's got to go back to First Nations for for consultation again so you're absolutely right

[0:22:34] Voice 6: I mean, I think everybody should be listed here, but, you know, I feel that the way this

[0:22:43] Voice 6: whole process has sort of played itself out has been sort of counter to getting valuable

[0:22:51] Voice 6: input all at the same time.

[0:22:56] Voice 6: It's definitely going back to First Nations again.

[0:22:58] Voice 6: I mean, there's just no question, but we don't see anything listed.

[0:23:01] Voice 6: yeah

[0:23:02] Voice 8: and i

[0:23:03] Voice 6: think maybe they didn't list them because that process had already been taking

[0:23:06] Voice 6: place initially at first right so it went to first nations first and then it came to us

[0:23:13] Voice 6: yeah

[0:23:14] Voice 8: yeah yeah i'm just like i'm just raising that there's something

[0:23:23] Voice 9: chair peter said um i'm not going to fall in this process i'm just looking on the

[0:23:29] Voice 9: policy statement web page and it looks like that there is a base for engagement with indigenous

[0:23:35] Voice 9: governing bodies that's starting this fall to next spring and this fall formal referral of policy

[0:23:42] Voice 9: statement 12 indigenous governing bodies in the trust area so i believe that what's in the agenda

[0:23:48] Voice 9: package is separate so there must be a separate referral um there is some

[0:23:53] Voice 9: information on the um

[0:23:55] Voice 9: web page but if you need anything further i can connect you with three and a half percent

[0:24:00] Voice 8: yeah and i

[0:24:17] Voice 10: think i think to your point with a piece of information i'm going to be taking back

[0:24:21] Voice 10: back to senior staff, is that when LTCs are getting this referral, because it's not explicitly

[0:24:29] Voice 10: stated that First Nations have and are going to be continuing to be consulted in this report,

[0:24:37] Voice 10: this referral that we have here, that it raises that question.

[0:24:41] Voice 8: But, you know, for transparency's sake, I mean, there's some documentation.

[0:24:45] Voice 8: communication and i

[0:24:49] Voice 10: mean i could i could show you lots of stuff but not in this meeting oh yeah it's

[0:24:54] Voice 9: a really good point a good question and um the galliano ltc last year when um we were talking

[0:25:02] Voice 9: about options for community engagement there's going to be a town hall scheduled specifically

[0:25:07] Voice 9: on the policy statement i believe it's for the october meeting this is perhaps some information

[0:25:12] Voice 9: information, the LTC we want to have ready in their back pocket. I'll try to do the same

[0:25:17] Voice 9: because it has a Trust Area Services staff member not be in attendance. So it's LTC led.

[0:25:26] Voice 9: So we'll make sure we'll try to put together a package of information because the web page

[0:25:32] Voice 9: doesn't fill in the detailed information. It's just little bubbles of information.

[0:25:36] Voice 9: information okay

[0:25:40] Voice 10: and jennifer right now so you're thank

[0:25:42] Voice 9: you good afternoon everybody um uh i just

[0:25:46] Voice 9: want to address um the issue of public access to trust information and there are actually three

[0:25:53] Voice 9: current examples of concern um the uh upcoming town hall which is this wednesday evening on the

[0:26:02] Voice 9: press policy statement um it's called the town hall and yet people have to submit questions in

[0:26:09] Voice 9: advance by september 5th a really uh kind of fraught time of year for a lot of people because

[0:26:16] Voice 9: it's the beginning of the school year the end of the summer lots happening and i'm really not sure

[0:26:22] Voice 9: how many people even knew about it or in fact have submitted questions and i kind of questioned

[0:26:30] Voice 9: it being called a town hall when it doesn't appear there will be an opportunity for people

[0:26:36] Voice 9: to spontaneously ask questions that's not clear in the information provided and as yet no other

[0:26:45] Voice 9: trust-wide webinar to introduce people to the draft trust policy statement has been announced

[0:26:54] Voice 9: And I hope there will be another session and it doesn't require people to submit questions

[0:27:01] Voice 9: in advance.

[0:27:02] Voice 9: I think many people in our communities are at a

[0:27:05] Voice 9: very early stage of understanding, not

[0:27:09] Voice 9: just what the draft is about, but understanding trust governance overall and sadly over the

[0:27:17] Voice 9: years that i've been here there's been little in the way of public education on our island to

[0:27:26] Voice 9: explain what the trust is about what the trust policy statement is about what the directives

[0:27:31] Voice 9: are about what the bylaws are and so people are many people that i talk to are starting from a very

[0:27:42] Voice 9: very low understanding of the whole complicated piece and it is complicated.

[0:27:49] Voice 9: So the second issue of concern is the scheduling of the Galliano community information meeting

[0:27:59] Voice 9: on October 18.

[0:28:02] Voice 9: And the fact that that's being scheduled, not as a stand-alone meeting, but at the beginning

[0:28:08] Voice 9: name of the regular local trust community meeting and i've mentioned this in relation to other um

[0:28:21] Voice 9: sorry you look like you're going to say something again 14.

[0:28:24] Voice 6: 14.

[0:28:24] Voice 9: 14. 14. 14. Thank you. Did I say 15? 18.

[0:28:29] Voice 9: 18. I

[0:28:30] Voice 8: appreciate

[0:28:32] Voice 9: the correction. Anyway, I really don't feel that that's a satisfactory way to introduce the community to a really important and complex document.

[0:28:49] Voice 9: And this is a process that has actually been going on since 2018, 2019.

[0:28:56] Voice 9: And yet, that's all we have at this point for our community, is some time allotted at the beginning of

[0:29:04] Voice 9: the regular LTC meeting.

[0:29:08] Voice 9: And also, given that it's an afternoon, as this is, many working people will not be able to attend or watch online.

[0:29:16] Voice 9: lines. So the third thing is an item on our agenda today, and that's the public notification

[0:29:23] Voice 9: bylaw 299. And I suspect that, again, many people are not aware of this particular bylaw,

[0:29:32] Voice 9: and it was something that was presented in the last Trust Council meeting on Salt Spring

[0:29:38] Voice 9: in June and it's now coming to the individual LTCs to approve and this basically um um is is a is a

[0:29:51] Voice 9: change I guess to the public notification bylaw that removes the requirement to post

[0:30:00] Voice 9: Trust information, whether it's development permits or rezoning applications in public newspapers.

[0:30:08] Voice 9: And instead, to just rely on the trust website and on their social media site.

[0:30:16] Voice 9: Now, if anybody has tried to find information on the trust website, you will know that that isn't an easy task.

[0:30:25] Voice 9: And the social media site, as I understand it, only has just over 900 followers.

[0:30:31] Voice 9: This may not affect us as much on Galliano, because we don't have a regular newspaper.

[0:30:40] Voice 9: I don't know if it affects postings and notices that might go on the after page.

[0:30:45] Voice 9: It certainly affects, um, there will be no advertising in the Gulf on this trip.

[0:30:51] Voice 9: quickly. I realize many people don't read it very quickly, can't even pick it up. I actually subscribe online and I read it regularly. So I think it's really unfortunate in, you know, a time when people are really kind of juggling a lot of information and trying to stay up to date and have a further reduction in public notification. And I would ask you as our L.A.

[0:31:21] Voice 9: to be seen not to accrue the bylaw as has been presented in the agenda.

[0:31:32] Voice 9: And the rationale for it was to save money, $16,000, as I understand it, in the budget.

[0:31:39] Voice 9: And yet, if you compare that to the amount of money just for staff time that's spent

[0:31:45] Voice 9: on development permits and uh on development permits alone 450 000 in 2024. so it's a very

[0:31:56] Voice 9: small savings for i think a really significant uh erosion in the availability of information

[0:32:05] all

[0:32:08] Voice 10: right thank you i just want to address your first point um just for clarity and uh and i

[0:32:15] Voice 10: absolutely appreciate it has not been made clear um the town hall um tomorrow night

[0:32:22] Voice 10: did request uh questions in advance but there is going to be opportunity for questions from

[0:32:28] Voice 10: the floor

[0:32:29] Voice 4: oh okay yeah didn't say that

[0:32:31] Voice 10: and i know it didn't say that

[0:32:33] Voice 10: and so

[0:32:34] Voice 4: i'm just going to flag

[0:32:34] Voice 4: that

[0:32:35] Voice 10: that's um

[0:32:36] Voice 4: that's

[0:32:37] Voice 10: an omission that probably shouldn't have been made but uh there will be

[0:32:41] Voice 10: some opportunity there okay notification um when uh things like this come to us from trust council

[0:32:52] Voice 10: the local trust committee has um a lot of agents here to decide what's appropriate for for galliano

[0:32:58] Voice 10: uh for for notification and understand the issues with the driftwood um but it's still it's up to

[0:33:06] Voice 10: this committee to decide whether to go with what's in the report to add to that if there's a local

[0:33:12] Voice 10: publication even if it's infrequent um or whether it is to stick with the driftwood so that's all

[0:33:18] Voice 10: within the purview of this committee to discuss when we get there thank

[0:33:22] Voice 8: you as a former

[0:33:26] Voice 7: newspaper

[0:33:28] Voice 8: I guess

[0:33:29] Voice 7: it struck

[0:33:31] Voice 10: me as being very unfortunate to talk to the public notifications from newspapers.

[0:33:39] Voice 10: And when we're talking newspapers, we're talking driftwood, but also talking active page.

[0:33:46] Voice 10: Active page has never been required notification through part of the Gellie and part of all that.

[0:33:53] Voice 10: But it's often used and could become required, if you so chose.

[0:34:00] Voice 10: I

[0:34:00] Voice 7: think to rely on, and I

[0:34:03] Voice 10: read a different number on the Territory, you know, you can pick it up there.

[0:34:08] Voice 10: So I see it frequently, it's available there.

[0:34:12] Voice 10: You

[0:34:12] Voice 7: know, it's pathetic that there's no newspaper that circulates on Galleon at all.

[0:34:16] Voice 7: But you

[0:34:17] Voice 10: can, you know, you get a notification, you're not reading about a notification,

[0:34:21] Voice 10: to read about something else than the notification you see it during the place you read it you know

[0:34:27] Voice 10: whereas if you have to go to the Atlas Trust website which is a you know a rather unfriendly

[0:34:36] Voice 10: website at the best of times anyway to try and find your public notices that's

[0:34:42] Voice 7: uh very difficult

[0:34:43] Voice 7: And if you're not going to use community social media sites for

[0:34:52] Voice 10: your notifications, but just your own social media site, that's not very effective either.

[0:34:57] Voice 10: Because people see notifications when they're going somewhere to see something else.

[0:35:04] Voice 10: I think that's the most effective way to notify people when they're going to find other things.

[0:35:11] Voice 10: and then they see the notice on the bulletin boards here.

[0:35:14] Voice 10: So I urge the trustees not to go ahead with the bylaw as such,

[0:35:22] Voice 10: but to come up with a galliano-friendly method that's more appropriate to this island.

[0:35:29] Voice 10: And just to circle back, this is all coming about because the province has changed their rules,

[0:35:35] Voice 10: and my understanding is that the driftwood is essentially the only print publication

[0:35:44] Voice 10: that checked the provincial box in the previous set of rules, but there's absolutely nothing

[0:35:52] Voice 10: in here that constrains any LTC from either deciding to stick with the driftwood or to

[0:35:58] Voice 10: to put a local publication on the list.

[0:36:04] Voice 10: We'll get into it.

[0:36:05] Voice 10: Yeah, we'll get in there,

[0:36:07] Voice 10: but it's just a point of information on that, yeah.

[0:36:09] Voice 9: Just to add one more quick one.

[0:36:10] Voice 9: I also think in the interest of supporting

[0:36:14] Voice 9: community economies, whether it's our own on Galliano

[0:36:18] Voice 9: or it's the Salt Spring economy in terms of the Driftwood,

[0:36:23] Voice 9: you know, that should be taken into consideration as well.

[0:36:27] Voice 9: and you take that money away from small um media outlets like that and it really makes a difference

[0:36:35] Voice 9: it's not going to make that much difference to the there are other ways to reduce the island stress

[0:36:41] Voice 9: thank

[0:36:42] Voice 4: you

[0:36:47] Voice 5: chair peterson i too would echo the request for doing something far more earlier

[0:36:57] Voice 5: leader. But just a question.

[0:37:00] Voice 10: Is this Island Trust Committee tied solely to the bylaw process

[0:37:07] Voice 10: to pass information out to the community? Could you not hold an information meeting

[0:37:14] Voice 10: for the community about the draft bylaw and then come back with a formal community information

[0:37:25] Voice 10: information meeting on first reading, what's to prevent you from taking information on

[0:37:33] Voice 10: this draft policy statement out

[0:37:37] Voice 6: to the community before you get into the by-law process? Is

[0:37:44] Voice 6: there anything?

[0:37:45] Voice 6: So the reality was that staff and a lot of the information we heard, we could not talk

[0:37:54] Voice 6: about the draft policy statement until we gave it first reading. There was no way to do any of that.

[0:37:59] Voice 6: And so it's a completely cloud process and I've said it many times at the table my

[0:38:09] Voice 6: feelings about how the draft policy statement is being developed. Yeah and I mean just to say

[0:38:17] Voice 6: say draft policy statement has, does each

[0:38:26] Voice 10: island have to go through the draft bylaw process

[0:38:30] Voice 10: to have information get out on the draft policy statement?

[0:38:35] Voice 10: Why not set up an information process whereby you use a number of vehicles on the island,

[0:38:44] Voice 10: including mail routes to each

[0:38:46] Voice 10: resident on the island with information about the policy statement,

[0:38:54] Voice 10: the engagement process, and set an aim for an information meeting for the community.

[0:39:03] Voice 10: Once that information is out and people can then look at the draft policy statement,

[0:39:10] Voice 10: that's when you come back, from my perspective anyway,

[0:39:14] Voice 10: into the formal process of adopting first reading and serving a community, a formal community information meeting.

[0:39:26] Voice 10: It takes the time to do something beforehand to equip the community, because not only

[0:39:32] Voice 10: would it help, I

[0:39:33] Voice 5: think, with the draft policy statement,

[0:39:36] Voice 5: but it would lay the groundwork for an official

[0:39:38] Voice 10: community plan of review.

[0:39:41] Voice 10: And I'll just add for information, all local trust committees earlier in the year, I don't know if Leonard Stockdale remembers the date, but considered what level of public engagement the LTC wanted to do, and there was a range, and at the time, the local trust committee voted to have it be part of a regular meeting.

[0:40:07] Voice 10: um that said i'm not and also there's nothing to prevent uh trustees from putting some effort

[0:40:17] Voice 10: into getting information out um to to the community i am not clear um on the official

[0:40:25] Voice 10: level what additional uh meetings um or publications are in the budget or achievable

[0:40:35] Voice 10: through staff capacity, through trust programs committee.

[0:40:38] Voice 10: So that would

[0:40:40] Voice 1: be a bit of a different question.

[0:40:42] Voice 10: I know that part of the reason

[0:40:44] Voice 10: that all the local trust committees were asked

[0:40:47] Voice 10: earlier in the year is for staff to try and plan out

[0:40:50] Voice 10: how they're gonna get out to all the Island stuff

[0:40:52] Voice 10: that one staff come out to.

[0:40:55] Voice 10: And then just also that the six month public engagement

[0:41:01] Voice 10: agent period is something that trust council committed to recognizing that this is not all

[0:41:07] Voice 10: going to get the information not easily accessible digestible in a short period of time so that

[0:41:17] Voice 10: that part was by design for sure

[0:41:19] Voice 9: not to address your question specifically but i did want to

[0:41:25] Voice 9: mention i misspoke when i said the trust area services staff is not going to participate they

[0:41:30] Voice 9: are going to participate sorry on october 14th so they'll either be here in person

[0:41:36] Voice 9: or be joining us via zoom so i didn't speak uh trust area services we'll be here this is

[0:41:42] Voice 4: fantastic

[0:41:42] Voice 9: yeah it was something that happened okay

[0:41:48] Voice 6: and then had something it's been a flawed

[0:41:53] Voice 6: It's been a flawed process since 2018, and it's not improved as far as I'm concerned.

[0:42:00] Voice 6: And I voted, even though it's LGC, we agree and we agree as a body to do what we do when we vote.

[0:42:06] Voice 6: I did not vote for it to go forward the way it's going.

[0:42:12] Voice 6: And I think the trouble is when you try and reinforce a flawed system, the chances of success are low.

[0:42:21] Voice 6: and so i i don't give the chances of success of this trust policy statement being done this term

[0:42:27] Voice 6: a high percentage but i'm one vote out of 25 26 so that's just my my feelings is there any plan

[0:42:37] Voice 6: does the lgc

[0:42:39] Voice 10: have any plan for public engagement on around the uh trust policy statements beyond

[0:42:47] Voice 10: on the October 14th for CRM within the next, the next TCE?

[0:42:56] Voice 10: I, again, I don't know what the trust area services

[0:43:01] Voice 10: capacity is at this late date.

[0:43:03] Voice 10: I think as far as getting them involved,

[0:43:06] Voice 10: we've, we made that decision earlier in the year.

[0:43:10] Voice 10: Again, as I said, individual trustees can do what they can.

[0:43:17] Voice 10: to get information out there.

[0:43:19] Voice 10: I know there are, I mentioned earlier,

[0:43:22] Voice 10: I think in my chair's report,

[0:43:23] Voice 10: I know there are paper surveys that are intended to go out

[0:43:28] Voice 10: as well as the online.

[0:43:31] Voice 10: And I believe there's gonna be more than just this,

[0:43:34] Voice 10: the one that electronic town halls.

[0:43:37] Voice 10: And your trustees

[0:43:39] Voice 10: are most certainly

[0:43:43] Voice 10: going to have information and be able to help with that.

[0:43:46] Voice 10: If

[0:43:47] Voice 3: that's the only public

[0:43:48] Voice 10: engagement, we're not going to have an opportunity to have a meeting, a public meeting, where we'll have an evening or a weekend where

[0:43:58] Voice 7: we'll have maybe 6,800 people come, which is what we could have a meeting

[0:44:04] Voice 10: with your wife.

[0:44:04] Voice 8: That's completely inevitable.

[0:44:06] Voice 10: It's just not a public process.

[0:44:10] Voice 10: No, it's just not acceptable.

[0:44:11] Voice 10: And

[0:44:12] Voice 9: what's to prevent you as our trustees, we don't have that trust area services there, we don't have to pay for staff to come to Victoria, what's to prevent you from booking the hall and holding a community meeting?

[0:44:29] Voice 9: It's necessary. This is completely inadequate.

[0:44:32] Voice 9: And to the point that the statement that you made, Dan, about not being able to release it to the public until it was given through screening, there have been multiple drafts in agenda packages of trust meetings, trust programs committee, committee of the whole meeting, available to the public.

[0:44:51] Voice 9: but if people knew they were there which of course unless you follow them you don't but there could

[0:44:58] Voice 9: have been a discussion in the community even about those earlier drafts so that you get you know

[0:45:04] Voice 9: there's more information coming from the community to trust council and i i don't see any reason why

[0:45:12] Voice 9: that well the

[0:45:13] Voice 6: reality is that in involved in that process where a lot of legal questions

[0:45:22] Voice 6: which are being uh presented to them which we can't talk about and so

[0:45:30] Voice 9: we're just dealing with what's in the draft and now but

[0:45:33] Voice 6: that's what we're getting legal opinions

[0:45:35] Voice 6: it's on they don't

[0:45:36] Voice 9: have to get into it that will that all gets dealt with it that's not part of

[0:45:40] Voice 9: what this community really wants to grapple with they want to see what's there and have some

[0:45:45] Voice 9: discussion about it

[0:45:46] Voice 6: that's why we're giving first reading to get it to the public so we can have

[0:45:49] Voice 6: this conversation because like i said it's been a flawed process since 2018 it's still a flawed

[0:45:55] Voice 6: process but you can do

[0:45:57] Voice 4: something about it okay

[0:45:58] Voice 10: we're getting a little bit too conversational

[0:46:00] Voice 10: and i might i might suggest you could have a conversation outside of getting here

[0:46:05] Voice 10: um okay uh anything further before we move on just

[0:46:11] Voice 8: one quick question i'm just wondering what's

[0:46:13] Voice 8: happening with the affordable housing project is it stuff oh

[0:46:16] Voice 6: i just made an announcement um

[0:46:19] Voice 6: on my trustees report um we'll hear within two weeks on the bc build grant right and then there'll

[0:46:25] Voice 6: be a plan to move

[0:46:26] Voice 6: ahead after that so

[0:46:27] Voice 8: you're looking for the first phase is that the first

[0:46:30] Voice 8: phase it's gone or we have

[0:46:33] Voice 6: funding for first phase one but um the bc build grant is soon

[0:46:38] Voice 6: so

[0:46:39] Voice 8: phase one is over is it i mean the road to no no no

[0:46:45] Voice 6: no construction hasn't started

[0:46:47] Voice 6: oh i'm just saying i just said it's my report there that's in talk with the crd that we um

[0:46:53] Voice 6: We're waiting for the answer from BC Bills, and then there

[0:46:57] Voice 6: will be conversation between

[0:46:58] Voice 6: the CRD and the CRD director on the path forward.

[0:47:02] Voice 8: So the money for what they've done already is gone?

[0:47:10] Voice 8: That's

[0:47:11] Voice 6: in the Phase 1 budget.

[0:47:13] Voice 8: Okay, so then you have to get another grant to continue on?

[0:47:17] Voice 6: No, we have to get their grant to complete Phase 2.

[0:47:19] Voice 6: Phase 2, okay.

[0:47:21] Voice 8: Okay, so what's included in phase one?

[0:47:23] Voice 6: It's half of the construction, half of the buildings.

[0:47:26] Voice 8: Oh. Yeah.

[0:47:28] Voice 8: So there's money available for that?

[0:47:30] Voice 6: Yes.

[0:47:30] Voice 6: Oh,

[0:47:31] Voice 8: okay, thanks.

[0:47:32] Voice 8: Yes, please.

[0:47:34] Voice 10: I'm confused because the BC Build,

[0:47:37] Voice 10: Matt is saying that the BC Build was a program

[0:47:39] Voice 10: that they originally were approaching

[0:47:45] Voice 10: about funding the construction loan for the project,

[0:47:50] Voice 10: project, but they subsequently the CRD pulled back from that, and they're going to BC Housing.

[0:47:56] Voice 10: The new, what

[0:47:58] Voice 6: was it, BC Housing?

[0:47:59] Voice 6: Yeah,

[0:47:59] Voice 10: BC Housing is what it is.

[0:48:00] Voice 6: Community Housing.

[0:48:02] Voice 6: Community Housing.

[0:48:03] Voice 10: Community Housing.

[0:48:03] Voice 8: Community

[0:48:03] Voice 10: Housing is one of BC Housing.

[0:48:05] Voice 10: It's a much more affordable project concept to make the project more affordable.

[0:48:13] Voice 10: Yeah.

[0:48:14] Voice 10: Okay.

[0:48:15] Voice 10: Sorry.

[0:48:15] Voice 10: Thanks.

[0:48:17] Voice 4: can you tell us what the total amount of funding inside is or what the construction budget is i

[0:48:23] Voice 6: think that would be a question for the crd director or stephen henderson who's the manager

[0:48:29] Voice 6: i don't i don't have i don't want to say a number that i'm not completely sure this is going to be

[0:48:37] Voice 6: correct

[0:48:38] Voice 10: yeah crd is definitely not within the jurisdiction of the local trust guys so

[0:48:45] Voice 10: So, I like to move us along.

[0:48:50] Voice 10: Anything new?

[0:48:52] Voice 10: Okay.

[0:48:53] Voice 10: So we have a number of sets of minutes in front of us.

[0:48:58] Voice 10: Pardon me, do you

[0:48:59] Voice 8: know the Wi-Fi password for Wi-Fi?

[0:49:03] Voice 8: Don't.

[0:49:03] Voice 8: I don't.

[0:49:04] Voice 9: It automatically loads for me,

[0:49:06] Voice 9: so I don't know what it is.

[0:49:07] Voice 9: I don't know if I can look it up.

[0:49:08] Voice 9: I can't log on then.

[0:49:11] Voice 10: Okay, so starting with the LTC minutes

[0:49:16] Voice 10: from July 8th.

[0:49:18] Voice 10: Anything from trustees

[0:49:20] Voice 10: in the amendments?

[0:49:21] Voice 10: Sorry.

[0:49:26] Voice 9: On the 8th.

[0:49:29] Voice 9: I have nothing.

[0:49:30] Voice 9: And

[0:49:30] Voice 10: then we have the public hearing record.

[0:49:35] Voice 10: Anything

[0:49:36] Voice 10: on those?

[0:49:37] Voice 10: No.

[0:49:39] Voice 10: No resolutions without meeting reports.

[0:49:41] Voice 10: And we have three sets of minutes

[0:49:44] Voice 10: from the APC.

[0:49:46] Voice 10: We know that they've been very busy

[0:49:48] Voice 10: and these notes

[0:49:51] Voice 10: are very helpful from my point of view

[0:49:53] Voice 10: and those are all three of those

[0:49:54] Voice 10: that I would

[0:49:56] Voice 6: make

[0:49:58] Voice 6: good for JCP

[0:49:59] Voice 6: and yeah it's interesting

[0:50:02] Voice 6: the evolution of the conversation

[0:50:05] Voice 6: within that

[0:50:05] Voice 9: absolutely I express my gratitude

[0:50:08] Voice 9: it's invested a serious amount

[0:50:11] Voice 9: of time

[0:50:13] Voice 10: yeah that's a lot of meetings

[0:50:15] Voice 10: in a short time and minutes are very helpful

[0:50:18] Voice 10: um next i will bring this down to the follow-up action reports on page 35 and i'll look to staff

[0:50:24] Voice 10: to see if there's any updates you'd like to provide thank

[0:50:27] Voice 9: you chair i'm very happy to say

[0:50:29] Voice 9: that item number one on the 12th page 35 agenda this

[0:50:34] Voice 4: is in regards

[0:50:35] Voice 9: to a signing of the covenant

[0:50:37] Voice 9: in relation to um application which has been on for almost a year has been finally completed so

[0:50:45] Voice 9: have to say that's done um crystal mountain application you haven't heard anything from

[0:50:53] Voice 9: the applicant so planning staff they're going to reach out to you and ask for some updates so i

[0:50:59] Voice 9: hope the october meeting will have something for the ltc to take a look at um so that's something

[0:51:04] Voice 9: we'll be moving forward on in terms of setting up a meeting with delicate chief council staff it's

[0:51:12] Voice 9: been, I don't want to say it was

[0:51:14] Voice 9: a busy summer, but I think we all had other things

[0:51:15] Voice 9: on the road, and understanding

[0:51:17] Voice 9: that the Connecticut tribe has been quite busy.

[0:51:20] Voice 9: Most likely

[0:51:21] Voice 9: that would be

[0:51:23] Voice 9: scheduled for October or November.

[0:51:26] Voice 9: I would say it would be a restricted schedule.

[0:51:31] Voice 9: Let's see here.

[0:51:33] Voice 9: I can mention

[0:51:35] Voice 9: the resuming applications

[0:51:37] Voice 9: for both 85 and 86.

[0:51:39] Voice 9: I understand that the applicants

[0:51:40] Voice 9: are really geared up to schedule

[0:51:43] Voice 9: the public hearing for their two applications due to the notice of about 60 days we're looking at

[0:51:51] Voice 9: the december ltc meeting for that both applicants are aware the applicants for 85 at least all their

[0:51:59] Voice 9: requirements in staff are just reviewing the draft evidence and the professional reports

[0:52:06] Voice 9: and the applicant or applicants for district law 86 they're getting their crowdwater assessment

[0:52:11] Voice 9: completed in early october so hopefully the ltc will have a copy of that um by mid to late october

[0:52:18] Voice 9: so they're working very hard on that i really appreciate the advocates for moving through that

[0:52:23] Voice 9: terms of reference because it's a bit uh i believe that's it everything else i think is completed

[0:52:31] Voice 10: thank you for that trustees any questions on the foil tax report

[0:52:35] Voice 10: for it great thank you um so next up is first bonus day so we've got uh referrals and a couple

[0:52:55] Voice 10: of applications here um starting on page 45 we've got a referral from salt spring ltc on bylaw 546

[0:53:06] Voice 10: six um staff has a thing to talk to you on that

[0:53:18] Voice 10: hopefully trustees have read through um of course somewhat familiar with these applications having

[0:53:28] Voice 10: a spring chair it sounds

[0:53:33] Voice 9: like these uses have been existing on the land for 40 plus years

[0:53:40] Voice 10: yeah and i'll note that although there is a new

[0:53:44] Voice 10: bylaw referral form which includes a my request

[0:53:50] Voice 10: executive committee uh recommended um resolutions we didn't seem to get that

[0:53:56] Voice 10: that didn't seem to come into this referral

[0:53:57] Voice 10: so we're back

[0:53:58] Voice 9: is there one yeah

[0:53:59] Voice 10: we're back to crafting on the fly

[0:54:02] Voice 10: okay because

[0:54:02] Voice 9: also about the compound the interest here it says at the very top

[0:54:06] Voice 9: you requested a comment on a catch-fly law for potential effect on your agency's interest.

[0:54:11] Voice 9: We would appreciate your response within 60 days.

[0:54:14] Voice 9: If no response is received within that time, then we assume that your agency's interests are unaffected.

[0:54:22] Voice 9: So do we respond interested in interests unaffected?

[0:54:27] Voice 6: Oh, I see what you're saying.

[0:54:32] Voice 10: yeah and i mean on page 42 is what we've been receiving standard for these ltc to ltc referrals

[0:54:40] Voice 10: but there is and i have seen it there does exist a template now for recommended motions for these

[0:54:47] Voice 10: we just did they just didn't hit this agenda for some reason um be asking whether that's a salt

[0:54:54] Voice 10: spring thing or uh or somewhere else because i've seen them already they do exist but meanwhile

[0:55:01] Voice 10: we're on our own we're

[0:55:02] Voice 9: on our own i have two different motions here one is that we

[0:55:06] Voice 9: um report back that our interests are affected or the other one is just that

[0:55:11] Voice 9: we have determined as a body that are interested uh

[0:55:17] Voice 10: either way it's uh uh it will be in the form

[0:55:21] Voice 10: of resolution will be it's going to be a vote so um i think

[0:55:27] Voice 10: neither one is suitable right

[0:55:30] Voice 9: uh i will make a motion i move that the galley on the local trust committee

[0:55:34] Voice 9: consider the referral assault spring i have a little trust committee bylaw number four five six

[0:55:39] Voice 9: five

[0:55:40] Voice 8: four six five

[0:55:42] Voice 9: four six yes and determine that his interests are unaffected

[0:55:49] Voice 10: seconded any discussion

[0:55:50] Voice 9: i'll

[0:55:52] Voice 10: call the question all those in favor

[0:55:54] Voice 9: there and that carries

[0:55:56] Voice 9: yes i'd

[0:55:58] Voice 9: just like to say well done trustee bevro for reading the timely

[0:56:02] Voice 9: rating on the bylaw referral form which i have never done and right it does say twice if your

[0:56:09] Voice 9: agency's interests are unaffected no further information is required so i'm going to bring

[0:56:14] Voice 9: that up at our team meeting tomorrow to see if other offices are doing something similar or

[0:56:21] Voice 9: that's something that we should either remove from the bylaw uh or perhaps the the ltcs do not have

[0:56:29] Voice 9: to respond to the motion in the board well and then

[0:56:33] Voice 10: as i said i know um the director shermak

[0:56:36] Voice 10: uh in response to requests from myself but executive committee has has a template it's

[0:56:43] Voice 10: just not here for some reason that has um suggested motions for whether affected unaffected

[0:56:50] Voice 10: et cetera it sounds

[0:56:51] Voice 8: like they do save

[0:56:53] Voice 10: a little bit of time we still

[0:56:54] Voice 8: need to we still need to

[0:56:56] Voice 10: have a response the

[0:56:57] Voice 4: the

[0:56:58] Voice 10: the interest of having the um suggested motions just means to save a

[0:57:03] Voice 10: little bit of time because although luckily trustee cabrera was prepared today that's

[0:57:08] Voice 10: always the case and sometimes we stumble a little bit over these save some time um but

[0:57:13] Voice 10: we have a second one to uh consider trustees

[0:57:17] Voice 8: yeah

[0:57:18] Voice 6: it's interesting i mean you're the chair

[0:57:21] Voice 6: salt spring local trust committee just comments around the housing problem um

[0:57:28] Voice 10: well uh you know

[0:57:31] Voice 10: as you probably know there's a um a high interest on in housing on all the islands and salt spring

[0:57:40] Voice 10: in particular is suffering from extreme pressure uh on the land values uh rents

[0:57:48] Voice 10: and the effects on not only local businesses but things like lady mental hospital staff having

[0:57:56] Voice 10: i believe the maternity ward has been shut down for four years now because of staffing issues so

[0:58:04] Voice 10: um providing worker housing is is extremely important this particular

[0:58:12] Voice 10: particular uh application started out as a senior's housing piece and um gizra with this was

[0:58:20] Voice 10: the violence seniors residence association i believe um had initially been thinking about

[0:58:28] Voice 10: making this a senior's affordable housing uh space and they have since um decided that it's

[0:58:38] Voice 10: important to get the housing out there and not limit it just to seniors um and there's also a

[0:58:45] Voice 10: uh a medical clinic on the property um and so the the offices um are for those that medical clinic

[0:58:58] Voice 10: um and then i think recognizing that daycare is really important for workers of

[0:59:06] Voice 10: of all types who have families and children um so far this has been fairly well supported i think uh

[0:59:13] Voice 10: by members of public consult spring and um and i think there's a lot of appreciation that gizzard

[0:59:20] Voice 10: has has decided to open up their application beyond seniors and recognizing that there's

[0:59:26] Voice 10: other needs in the community actually

[0:59:35] Voice 6: prepared to make a motion to support the approval of the

[0:59:41] Voice 6: bylaw approval recommended yeah yeah

[0:59:44] Voice 8: for

[0:59:45] Voice 6: reasons outlined below do you have a piece of what my

[0:59:48] Voice 6: motion would be i moved that the galliano local trust committee supported the approval of the

[0:59:52] Voice 6: bylaw number 549 salzburg island okay i'll

[0:59:57] Voice 9: second that all

[0:59:58] Voice 6: right and any further

[1:00:05] Voice 10: Okay, next we have the policy statement bylaw referral. Now, before we get into this, I

[1:00:15] Voice 10: just want to note that the timing of these referrals coming out to LTCs is, it's not

[1:00:27] Voice 10: on uniform and because the way ltc's meet it's not always in the greatest alignment

[1:00:33] Voice 10: um of course the local trust committee can um act as they see fit but i would just start by

[1:00:43] Voice 10: recommending that it might be a good idea to have the um the presentation that we're planning at our

[1:00:51] Voice 10: next meeting uh prior to a referral response from this committee there's no reason that we cannot

[1:00:57] Voice 10: um defer the response today until after we've had that um some public interaction i believe there's

[1:01:05] Voice 10: a deadline in january that they would like to hear by us uh

[1:01:10] Voice 3: hear from us by

[1:01:10] Voice 10: um but there's

[1:01:12] Voice 10: certainly no need to provide a referral response today if if the local trust committee wants to

[1:01:18] Voice 10: wait until um after the that presentation and public feedback

[1:01:29] Voice 6: yeah i have no problem deferring it and i also would like to see this

[1:01:33] Voice 6: forward to the agency as well right for their consideration

[1:01:39] Voice 10: yeah okay so i think we need uh we need a motion to forward it i don't think we need

[1:01:47] Voice 10: to put a resolution on the table to defer consideration to no

[1:01:52] Voice 9: i couldn't yeah that's

[1:01:54] Voice 9: yeah but

[1:01:54] Voice 10: certainly to

[1:01:55] Voice 9: send it to the senate

[1:01:56] Voice 6: the apc we do want to we do want a resolution

[1:01:59] Voice 6: i moved at the look telling a local press committee send the i don't trust policies

[1:02:07] Voice 6: to the apc for comment second that second

[1:02:13] Voice 10: all right any further discussion not seeing

[1:02:17] Voice 10: you know i'll call a question all those in favor and that carries

[1:02:24] Voice 9: yes

[1:02:28] Voice 9: is there any particular aspects you want the apc to comment on and what are your expectations for

[1:02:36] Voice 9: the apc and also um currently working on the targeted ocp review highlighting topics they're

[1:02:44] Voice 9: about to receive a referral for the associate islands occupation review and that'll take the

[1:02:50] Voice 9: same other one or so so if you'd like you've got motion it's been passed so could you perhaps

[1:02:57] Voice 9: give them a date at least into early december oh

[1:03:02] Voice 6: i mean we're not on the table we've deferred

[1:03:04] Voice 6: until january right you're

[1:03:05] Voice 9: deferring until well

[1:03:07] Voice 6: we haven't made a date

[1:03:08] Voice 9: that's what

[1:03:09] Voice 10: we have uh well

[1:03:11] Voice 10: i was saying that we've had a recommended deadline um and for some reason i'm having difficulty

[1:03:17] Voice 10: popping it up here uh finding what that is a response by from the local trust committee

[1:03:24] Voice 10: i

[1:03:24] Voice 9: know it's on october 10th that was the incorrect date in the agenda um i know i believe it's

[1:03:30] Voice 9: It's February something, but I believe it's before the February meeting for Galeano.

[1:03:39] Voice 9: Yeah.

[1:03:40] Voice 9: So you would potentially be receiving the APC referral.

[1:03:46] Voice 3: Right.

[1:03:48] Voice 9: After the deadline.

[1:03:50] Voice 9: That's the issue.

[1:03:52] Voice 9: Because the next, the February meeting for Galeano LTC is February 10th.

[1:03:58] Voice 9: And the referral deadline is?

[1:04:00] Voice 9: I'm not finding that.

[1:04:02] Voice 9: okay i can quickly do it that

[1:04:05] Voice 10: really should be in the in the referral a letter to the health

[1:04:10] Voice 9: decision date um give me just a few minutes here we can pause i will find it yeah there's

[1:04:17] Voice 10: a request in october 10 but there's a new one maybe this is just the old version of the document

[1:04:24] Voice 10: maybe uh i might have it on i

[1:04:30] Voice 9: think it's february 6. planners doctor oh thank you yes it's february

[1:04:35] Voice 9: 6. So that's before the February 10th meeting. Unless the LTC wants to schedule an electronic

[1:04:49] Voice 9: special meeting sometime in January. The issue with that, not an issue, but a concern is

[1:04:57] Voice 9: any meeting to January, especially if they're electronic, the weather potentially could

[1:05:02] Voice 9: be an issue, if there's power outages and so forth. But just something to keep in the

[1:05:06] Voice 9: back in line the

[1:05:12] Voice 3: other thing we

[1:05:12] Voice 6: have the white chair of the apc here and we get funding back

[1:05:18] Voice 6: before february then yeah

[1:05:21] Voice 9: well you could ask to see if you can get an extension until february 10

[1:05:26] Voice 9: i'm not sure if there was a reason i mean i'm sure there's a reason for the deadline february 6

[1:05:30] Voice 9: let's see but if it's four days

[1:05:33] Voice 10: i think we might be able to get some uh some leeway there

[1:05:39] Voice 10: or yeah

[1:05:40] Voice 9: potentially potentially right

[1:05:44] Voice 9: so the ltc means they would like to get the apc referral back

[1:05:51] Voice 9: by the end of january yeah and then the ltc would look at referral at february 10th yeah

[1:06:00] Voice 9: i

[1:06:01] Voice 6: could make a decision then to whether we make a decision or defer it again

[1:06:07] Voice 6: Yeah.

[1:06:10] Voice 10: So I think, I mean, we do have another meeting before then.

[1:06:15] Voice 10: I've made a note to look into,

[1:06:19] Voice 10: check in with the trust area services staff

[1:06:22] Voice 10: to see whether the extension

[1:06:25] Voice 10: would just ruin their timeline or not.

[1:06:27] Voice 10: But also noting that we have two meetings before then,

[1:06:31] Voice 10: so we could get to reporting back at our next meeting

[1:06:34] Voice 10: meeting on on whether that is really going to throw a monkey wrench in there or it's no big deal

[1:06:40] Voice 10: right so I don't think we have to determine everything today but we should probably indicate

[1:06:46] Voice 10: the ABC that there's sort of two possible two possible deadlines one would be for the December

[1:06:56] Voice 10: and hopefully we can get the extension but we'll know next month right

[1:07:00] Voice 8: yes I

[1:07:02] Voice 10: I would think my

[1:07:03] Voice 10: guess is that there'll be multiple ltcs asking for extensions yes i wouldn't be surprised and again

[1:07:10] Voice 10: i think a four-day extension is different than like say a three-month extension as far as

[1:07:14] Voice 10: the

[1:07:15] Voice 10: best laid plans out there and stuff so i have a feeling that one might be fine i'll be attending

[1:07:20] Voice 9: an upcoming italiano apc meeting so i can relay that to the apc that referral is coming with the

[1:07:26] Voice 9: both of a deadline for the end of january but i will

[1:07:30] Voice 9: not send a referral out until

[1:07:32] Voice 9: um we discuss it at the next tc meeting because i know that they've been coming out to do a little

[1:07:38] Voice 9: bit a lot on their plane yeah

[1:07:39] Voice 10: just because they've done an incredible job packing a lot of meetings

[1:07:44] Voice 10: in the last month doesn't necessarily always do that okay so can we move on to the next item then

[1:07:51] Voice 8: all

[1:07:52] Voice 10: right so starting on page 97 we have a staff report on uh zoning applications

[1:08:02] Voice 10: number of times um and i'll turn it up thank you

[1:08:08] Voice 9: uh the rezoning application geo rz 2023.01

[1:08:14] Voice 9: for district law 14. The proposed bylaw number 291 was given first reading, second reading,

[1:08:29] Voice 9: and third reading at the June 3rd meeting. It was sent to the EC for approval and the

[1:08:37] Voice 9: executive committee um did approve the bylaw on july 2nd um all items of the terms of reference

[1:08:45] Voice 9: have been completed the draft sample forestry management covenant has been completed and that's

[1:08:51] been supported by staff

[1:08:53] Voice 9: and the applicant is certainly getting ready to register the covenant

[1:08:57] Voice 9: there staff completed the groundwater assessment covenant which is the last item on the to-do list

[1:09:04] Voice 9: it is attached to the staff report um after discussing with the applicant there is one

[1:09:10] Voice 9: future edit to be made and that is on page 106 of the agenda just page two of the draft

[1:09:20] Voice 9: groundwater covenant item number three this is in regards to the plan that's to be zoned

[1:09:29] Voice 9: forest industrial b the current draft condition states that no building shall be occupied until

[1:09:37] Voice 9: essentially assessment is completed there is currently a small building on that portion

[1:09:43] Voice 9: already so staff will make the edit that it will say no building except for one existing building

[1:09:51] Voice 9: building with x square square feet shall be occupied. So we want to make sure that the

[1:10:00] Voice 9: draft covenant allows that one small building there which has no water connection. So that's

[1:10:05] Voice 9: one potential edit that the applicant would like to see. So staff have put together a

[1:10:13] Voice 9: draft recommendation that the LTC accepts this covenant and designates the chair of

[1:10:20] Voice 9: the ltc to sign the covenant if the ltc makes this recommendation the next step would be for

[1:10:27] Voice 9: the applicant to have their legal counsel review the draft groundwater assessment make any minor

[1:10:36] Voice 1: edits if

[1:10:36] Voice 9: there's any significant edits it will come back to the ltc for review but my assumption

[1:10:42] Voice 9: is that everything is good there just might be that one edit i just suggested and also um

[1:10:49] Voice 9: changing on the very front page, there has to be an insert there or from the description and so forth.

[1:10:57] Voice 9: So the recommendation is there for the LTC's consideration. Once the applicant has registered

[1:11:03] Voice 9: for the covenants, it will come back to the LTC to consider final adoption of file number 291.

[1:11:10] Voice 9: And the applicant's representative is here for any questions.

[1:11:15] Voice 5: I do have one question about that. I thought we were under the agreement that because we

[1:11:22] Voice 5: don't have water, like a well set up there, and that it would need a commercial water

[1:11:27] Voice 5: license anyway, and that if the building isn't using water and it's needed for the industrial

[1:11:33] Voice 5: site that we could remove the government conditions from the forest industrial area.

[1:11:41] Voice 5: that was the understanding because i mean

[1:11:43] Voice 5: i'm concerned

[1:11:48] Voice 9: about something the ltc can consider is rely on provincial requirements

[1:11:54] Voice 9: which would generally if provincial requirements would go above and beyond what the company would

[1:11:59] Voice 9: require so staff's perspective i don't see any issue with it but if for some reason

[1:12:07] Voice 9: the not saying that they would but the property owner moves forward with the building constructing

[1:12:11] Voice 9: constructing a building and doesn't and drills a well of course that was I'm just trying to think

[1:12:20] Voice 9: of scenarios where there

[1:12:21] Voice 9: may be in a situation which I can't really think of because they would

[1:12:24] Voice 9: have to apply for the choice of places in many ways so I don't foresee having any issue with

[1:12:32] Voice 9: this for the forest industrial portion just

[1:12:39] Voice 10: looking to see what that's designated on the

[1:12:43] Voice 10: the number of laws up here i

[1:12:50] Voice 10: don't see it as we'd have to rewrite the

[1:12:56] Voice 10: recommended resolution right correct yes

[1:13:00] Voice 9: we'd want to make a motion to remove section three

[1:13:05] Voice 9: from the draft covenant is that what you mean cherry pearson yeah

[1:13:09] Voice 10: that's i mean that's the way

[1:13:11] Voice 10: we're considering here but that would be there so

[1:13:41] Voice 9: if the ltc does agree with removing section

[1:13:44] Voice 9: section three. Yes, that should be a motion first before we move forward with the recommended

[1:13:49] Voice 9: motion there. And I

[1:13:52] Voice 4: don't foresee any issues

[1:13:53] Voice 9: with that. But per se, let's say that the

[1:13:56] Voice 9: LTC does remove section three. And in the next coming days, you know, there is something

[1:14:02] Voice 9: in terms of the planning staff and to speak with Robert Regina, regional planning manager,

[1:14:06] Voice 9: if something is identified as a major concern, it can come back to the LTC. I don't foresee

[1:14:11] Voice 9: see that though. Because the ground would be protected by

[1:14:16] Voice 9: local virtual legislation. This is just more like a second

[1:14:18] Voice 9: protection for LTCs comfort. Yeah, I agree.

[1:14:22] Voice 4: And after this

[1:14:22] Voice 4: all

[1:14:23] Voice 9: would end after restriction of use. The covenant would end

[1:14:27] Voice 9: after restriction of use. It would end so it would just be

[1:14:33] Voice 9: the section three that would be deleted and section three ABCD.

[1:14:38] Voice 9: deed so section two would still remain which is the requirements for the dwellings which was the

[1:14:46] Voice 9: main concern and then

[1:14:49] Voice 10: i would also just point out in terms of timing the uh the recommendation

[1:14:55] Voice 10: here is prior to consideration of final adoption so um we would have that any issues with the

[1:15:03] Voice 10: amending the covenant will be sorted out um prior to then because that adoption won't happen until

[1:15:10] Voice 10: double covenant sign right okay um trustees questions concerns um i

[1:15:18] Voice 6: have no concerns

[1:15:19] Voice 6: removing section three um like the dwelling already exists right now it's being used for

[1:15:25] Voice 6: check it's um you're right if it was any altercations that i used stood up but it

[1:15:32] Voice 6: required the use of water there you would have to apply for that with bc permit anyways um there's

[1:15:39] Voice 6: no requirement or there's no plan to use it for a dwelling so if you look at the uses within the

[1:15:46] Voice 6: forestry forest industrial use having a building there is going to be one of the things that they

[1:15:51] Voice 6: need to have just no reason to put that in the cover if it's not going to be using water

[1:15:59] Voice 6: so i have no problem removing that we're moving section three from the government

[1:16:06] Voice 9: yeah i think that the other provisions that apply to the other laws are still in there this is a

[1:16:11] Voice 9: separate piece that can be trimmed out okay

[1:16:14] Voice 3: thank you i

[1:16:15] Voice 8: would

[1:16:18] Voice 10: entertain a motion to remove section

[1:16:21] Voice 10: three from the draft covenant um we should probably use a common name uh probably throw

[1:16:30] Voice 10: in the application name there just for reference that's great when are you ready to go or you want

[1:16:40] Voice 10: going to take this okay

[1:16:42] Voice 8: i

[1:16:45] Voice 10: move that the galliano local trust committee

[1:16:48] Voice 10: uh request staff to remove section three from the draft covenant um for application glrz 2023.1

[1:17:03] Voice 10: seconded further all those in favor okay so that carries and then we could read the recommended

[1:17:13] Voice 10: uh motion would it be the covenant as amended yes please i'll

[1:17:23] Voice 9: move up i move that the gallia

[1:17:25] Voice 9: local trust committee accepted groundwater assessment covenant as amended but i'd say

[1:17:30] Voice 10: sign the covenant as amended the second covenant i think i don't know what do you think i think

[1:17:39] Voice 9: that we accepted a covenant as amended okay

[1:17:42] Voice 10: okay sorry to interrupt go ahead as amended

[1:17:45] Voice 9: it under section 219 of the land title act from the registered owner of straddle lost one two

[1:17:51] Voice 9: three four and five wait a minute oh sorry we're good yes actually yeah well that's still good yeah

[1:18:01] Voice 9: uh district law 14 and designate the chair of the local trust committee to sign the covenant

[1:18:07] Voice 9: for the rezoning application of gm rz 2023.1 prior to the final adoption consideration

[1:18:15] Voice 9: All

[1:18:16] Voice 10: right. Moved. Seconded by Trustee Maverly. Anything further? I'll call the question almost

[1:18:22] Voice 10: in favor. And that carries. Thank you.

[1:18:25] Voice 9: Mr. Peterson, good day. And so the covenant will still be on that spread a lot five. It

[1:18:31] Voice 9: won't be in turn. There's certainly no conditions of use of groundwater, but there is a prohibition

[1:18:37] Voice 9: on subdivision. So that's why it's still on May 5th.

[1:18:40] Voice 5: right thank you for that clarification just one question about the timeline and process for

[1:18:49] Voice 5: will you then send us like a revised copy of that do it right now

[1:18:59] Voice 10: then it's just a matter of tracking me down to sign in front of the right person with the right

[1:19:05] Voice 10: for them to be that hard though because uh legislative clerk from salisbury

[1:19:13] Voice 10: okay so on page 111 we have a development variance uh permit and i'll turn it over to planter stockton

[1:19:25] Voice 10: thank you actually

[1:19:26] Voice 9: all

[1:19:28] Voice 10: right

[1:19:29] Voice 9: over

[1:19:32] Voice 10: to you planter belcher thank

[1:19:34] Voice 1: you uh yeah so this is a new application for a

[1:19:38] Voice 1: development variance permit for the construction of shoreline stabilization works within the 7.5

[1:19:45] Voice 1: meter setback to the natural boundary of the sea the applicant's rationale for citing the new

[1:19:51] Voice 1: shoreline stabilization stabilization structure along the natural boundary is to prevent the

[1:19:56] Voice 1: continued erosion caused by increased wave energy from storms and fairies and the existing stairs

[1:20:04] Voice 1: are also at risk of failure due to erosion, and the proposed work would provide a long-term

[1:20:10] Voice 1: solution to retain the existing, including retaining the existing trees, and enable

[1:20:15] Voice 1: restoration of the shoreline vegetation. The proposal is also located within the shoreline

[1:20:23] Voice 1: and marine development permit area, which is delegated to staff and would be completed if

[1:20:29] Voice 1: the variance is issued the own the owner hired a geotechnical engineer and registered professional

[1:20:36] Voice 1: biologist to design the shoreline stabilization works to comply with all the development permit

[1:20:42] Voice 1: area guidelines and to ensure that the design would not imp impact the coastal and marine

[1:20:47] Voice 1: ecosystems negatively the owner and hired professionals considered a green shores soft

[1:20:54] Voice 1: approach, but due to the significant wave energy, a hard approach through the placement of boulders

[1:21:01] Voice 1: along with upland restoration through willow stakes and planting would provide the most

[1:21:09] Voice 1: effective and least impactful solution to the erosion. There is a known archaeological site

[1:21:15] Voice 1: within the proposed building envelope, which the applicant is aware of and working towards a permit

[1:21:22] Voice 1: with the BC arc branch and the construction cannot commence until all

[1:21:28] Voice 1: of the provincial requirements under the Heritage Conservation Act are met since

[1:21:34] Voice 1: the notification went out the public notification that is there's been one

[1:21:39] Voice 1: letter received in opposition to the permit listing concerns of the impact to

[1:21:44] Voice 1: the marine wildlife within the bay staff consider that the rationale to prevent

[1:21:51] Voice 1: the ongoing erosion of the shoreline and allow for the continued safe use of the stairs through

[1:21:56] Voice 1: construction of a shoreline protection works to be a reasonable rationale. The proposed works

[1:22:04] Voice 1: were designed to effectively prevent further shoreline erosion and integrate softer bioengineering

[1:22:10] Voice 1: and restoration planting practices to provide long-term bank stability and, if approved,

[1:22:17] Voice 1: the shoreline and marine development permit conditions provide clear

[1:22:20] Voice 1: actions required throughout development to limit impacts on the

[1:22:25] Voice 1: sensitive coastal and marine ecosystems. So based on this

[1:22:29] Voice 1: analysis, staff recommends that the Galliano Island Local Trust

[1:22:33] Voice 1: Committee approve issuance of PLDVP

[1:22:36] Voice 1: 2025-0264. Also

[1:22:41] Voice 1: to note is the first alternative option, which

[1:22:44] Voice 1: um would uh uh defer issuance until the provincial archaeological process is complete uh thank you

[1:22:57] Voice 10: thank you and i see that the applicant has joined us on zoom and i'll just check in and see if

[1:23:02] Voice 10: there's anything you'd like to add i'd

[1:23:05] Voice 2: like to oh actually um we're engaging as much as we can

[1:23:09] Voice 2: with green shores once again um they'll be coming down and doing a site visit because it looks like

[1:23:13] Voice 2: we are we may be able to have a hybrid funding approach as well so they're looking at the project

[1:23:19] Voice 2: they're coming down we haven't scheduled they're they're coming down to see the site but our

[1:23:23] Voice 2: intention is certainly to maintain all natural processes and to involve a green shore certification

[1:23:29] Voice 2: at some level should we be able to do so so that's ongoing as well and we're we are trying to

[1:23:38] Voice 2: to make sure that any further degradation of the shoreline is mitigated. It's a very fast acting

[1:23:45] Voice 2: process right now. And it's a safety concern, but it's also an environmental concern because

[1:23:50] Voice 2: considerable land is being taken each winter. Basically, it's a visible process. It's not a

[1:23:58] Voice 2: slow one right now. So I appreciate your time. Thank you.

[1:24:02] Voice 10: Thank you. Trustees, any questions

[1:24:05] Voice 10: questions for the planner or the applicant uh

[1:24:09] Voice 9: yeah process question um we're issuing the bbp

[1:24:14] Voice 9: the dp will come later as part of the development permit uh process will there be a referral to the

[1:24:23] Voice 9: galliano parks and dry i'm not sure you can answer that on

[1:24:30] Voice 9: behalf of bruce our site planner belcher

[1:24:33] Voice 3: since

[1:24:33] Voice 9: he wasn't here for the town hall um the novice um would only go to property owners within

[1:24:43] Voice 9: a hundred meters so through that it would not go to parks and recreation there is a standard

[1:24:50] Voice 9: resolution the ltc has that states that only if a application is adjacent to um the i don't like

[1:25:00] Voice 9: the exact word but adjacent to a park or ocean access would it be referred to the gallery on the

[1:25:06] Voice 9: parks and recreation commission so because it was it's not adjacent to it wasn't referred to the

[1:25:12] Voice 9: commission any

[1:25:19] Voice 8: further questions for

[1:25:20] Voice 6: staff or the

[1:25:22] Voice 6: applicant um more comments for me i um i've

[1:25:27] Voice 6: actually i've actually viewed this site um you know it fairly well roll on that piece of water

[1:25:33] Voice 6: front i don't know how many times a week um this is really interesting because you know certain

[1:25:39] Voice 6: our first application to sort of um mitigation of what's of climate change um the rising

[1:25:48] Voice 6: waters the strengths of the waves um active past is particularly vulnerable um you know on our on

[1:25:58] Voice 6: my job with the stocks commission we hired an engineering firm to to study the wave action in

[1:26:05] Voice 6: active pass with the spirit class vessels the fact is that every time the spirit pass vessel

[1:26:12] Voice 6: goes through active pass with a fair tie it's a 50-year wave event from that vessel so that's

[1:26:18] Voice 6: pretty significant when you think about that and instead of a long-term that's however many

[1:26:22] Voice 6: 30s a day doing that um you know i think we're sort of we're going to enter this discussion

[1:26:32] are we going to start um are we going to start mitigating

[1:26:40] Voice 6: allowing mitigation for climate change

[1:26:44] Voice 6: um this is a this is a perfect example of where this is happening i mean if you look around

[1:26:51] Voice 6: around that area, a fair amount of that property

[1:26:55] Voice 6: is already armoured.

[1:26:59] Voice 6: It's an interesting one,

[1:27:00] Voice 6: because when you look at the site,

[1:27:01] Voice 6: when you approach the site,

[1:27:02] Voice 6: it's actually a funnel going into this section of beach.

[1:27:05] Voice 6: So waves kind of, they build as they go in.

[1:27:09] Voice 6: So it's a little more susceptible.

[1:27:13] Voice 6: So I actually, I don't have any problem

[1:27:18] Voice 6: approving the application,

[1:27:19] Voice 6: but I think there's still a bit of work to do

[1:27:21] Voice 6: with the province.

[1:27:24] Voice 6: So I'm also not against deferring until the provincial archaeological process has been

[1:27:31] Voice 6: completed either, because there is an art site there, and I think that work needs to

[1:27:38] Voice 6: be done.

[1:27:39] Voice 6: I'm just going to come back to this anyways.

[1:27:41] Voice 6: I mean, I think it gives us more, if we defer, it gives us more information on what we're

[1:27:50] Voice 6: going to do with other sites, right?

[1:27:52] Voice 6: Right. It allows us to sort of form a sort of a plan coming into the OCP review, whether we want to sort of start looking at mitigation, excuse me, of climate change.

[1:28:06] Voice 6: I mean, the impressive thing is going to really be, and by 2050, on King Tide, the water levels will breach, start to grow, and flood the Robson Pond.

[1:28:20] Voice 6: I mean that's the from DFO that sort of projections that the wave ice and the tide

[1:28:28] Voice 6: rates will get that so that's going to be really interesting I mean there will be a time not in the

[1:28:33] Voice 6: not too distant future when South Carolina that portion of South Carolina will actually be an

[1:28:37] Voice 6: island on certain tides and so where are we where are we going to be in this process right there

[1:28:45] Voice 6: won't be a trustee in 2050 but i'm saying the trust the trust has a lot of work to do and

[1:28:51] Voice 6: figuring out what they're going to do with with uh climate change mitigation so my tendency right now

[1:28:59] Voice 6: is to defer until the provincial archaeological assessment has been

[1:29:04] Voice 6: has been completed and see where the art site goes as well yeah

[1:29:07] Voice 9: my thoughts exactly um

[1:29:19] Voice 9: But yeah, we know there's a site there, why are we doing it, I think, waiting to be.

[1:29:26] Voice 9: Would be.

[1:29:32] Voice 9: I'm not sure that would add any extra time, or they got the wait for me to make that distinction

[1:29:42] Voice 9: engineer that's important to us the highway that the program is required yeah

[1:29:47] Voice 10: yeah i just say i

[1:29:49] Voice 10: i have this this piece highlighted on my agenda copy because i think um uh not differing

[1:30:00] Voice 10: um in terms of the archaeological like especially at a known archaeological site i think not

[1:30:06] Voice 10: differing um setting the message that could be interpreted um in a way that i don't think is

[1:30:14] Voice 10: consistent where with you know the the goals and and sort of values of this ltc as i understand

[1:30:20] Voice 10: so i had some concerns on that too it sounds like we're all on the same page and um and uh um and uh

[1:30:30] Voice 10: uh i tend to agree it's unlikely um to add a lot of time to the to the issuing of the permit um

[1:30:42] Voice 10: we know that the uh the art branch is going to work at the speed they work

[1:30:46] Voice 10: regardless of what we do and we should have a meeting within within a month two months at

[1:30:53] Voice 10: the most uh after after they've made that determination right based on our meeting

[1:30:58] Voice 10: schedules. I did see a hand up from the applicant online.

[1:31:02] Voice 2: Yes, thank you. I actually agree with you.

[1:31:06] Voice 2: We would have liked to have had everything in place and of course the archaeological branch

[1:31:10] Voice 2: is on strike now as well which wasn't exactly helpful with the BCGEU. I appreciate what they

[1:31:16] Voice 2: need to do but that certainly put us in a bit of a back foot and we'll go through all the necessary

[1:31:21] Voice 2: processes for that of course. There was no intention of circumventing in any way. That was a

[1:31:26] Voice 2: a process that we were kind of unaware of until the last minute. That being said, what else can

[1:31:31] Voice 2: be helpful from our side? We've certainly engaged with everybody that we know of. I can certainly,

[1:31:36] Voice 2: both of our neighbors are in tacit support. One neighbor actually has exactly the same problem as

[1:31:41] Voice 2: we have. It's just a slightly different engineering issue, but it's exactly the same problem.

[1:31:44] Voice 2: And both have expressed interest. They use the stairs as well. And it's not a public access,

[1:31:49] Voice 2: but it certainly is neighborly access. And we're concerned for the danger on that front. So we'll

[1:31:54] Voice 2: make sure that people are are aware of that but is there any more support documentation more i can

[1:32:00] Voice 2: share the actual photographs for example in the application are quite out of date now um those

[1:32:05] Voice 2: were taken by ryzik a number of years ago and and i can i can show video and certainly updated

[1:32:10] Voice 2: photography um on the amount of change that has actually taken place uh and i appreciate council

[1:32:17] Voice 2: maverly's take on that as well because it is a as he says it's a funnel so it's if it's if it

[1:32:23] Voice 2: was spread out it would be a bit of a longer timeline because it is a very distinct funnel

[1:32:27] Voice 2: things are moving pretty quickly so i don't on the archaeological side we also want to make sure that

[1:32:33] Voice 2: that you're aware that we're trying to protect that from going away as well because there's a

[1:32:38] Voice 2: very high chance based on my conversation with an archaeological analyst that the archaeological

[1:32:43] Voice 2: site that was there is now gone because of this lack of this loss of territory so we'll go through

[1:32:51] Voice 2: the process and hopefully um things are a bit more of a straight line from there and i appreciate

[1:32:56] Voice 2: your opinions and time on it thank

[1:33:00] Voice 10: you for that um so trustees there was a direct question of

[1:33:04] Voice 10: whether there's additional information that would be helpful in decision making

[1:33:09] Voice 10: um

[1:33:10] Voice 8: assuming

[1:33:11] Voice 10: that we do defer to to the uh so the arch branch work is done

[1:33:15] Voice 10: affirmative

[1:33:16] Voice 6: with that i mean i think any any information they have on the um evolution of

[1:33:22] Voice 6: the process like ladies talking about um that's that's very helpful right um that would be helpful

[1:33:29] Voice 6: just you start to see the timelines of the effects of the wave action but apart from that it's it's

[1:33:37] Voice 6: the art site it's the provincial process and we need to see we need to see where that lands

[1:33:44] Voice 6: i'm prepared to make a motion yeah go ahead i move that the gallant island local trust committee

[1:33:51] Voice 6: defer issuance of pl and pdp 2025-0264 until provincial archaeological process is complete

[1:34:01] Voice 6: room seconded by trustee guberon

[1:34:03] Voice 10: uh any further discussion

[1:34:12] Voice 10: Okay, thank you for that. I'm going to suggest that maybe we take about a 10 minute recess

[1:34:21] Voice 10: here and come back. We don't have tons left, but let's take a little break before we complete

[1:34:28] Voice 10: the rest.

[1:34:41] Voice 3: we have our sustainability project

[1:34:44] Voice 10: consideration of adoption and i'll turn it over to staff

[1:34:49] Voice 9: thank you chair uh we are post public hearing in regards to bylaw number 283 and 284

[1:34:55] Voice 9: um request our memories we said the bio was off to the executive committee late last year

[1:35:01] Voice 9: both bylaws were approved by executive committee on december 9th of 2024.

[1:35:12] Voice 9: and the minister approved by law number 283 on July 7. So that's really the main piece that we were waiting for. So the two filers have now come back for consideration of adoption. There are two recommendations there on page 130 of the agenda for the LTC's consideration.

[1:35:34] Voice 9: If the LTC

[1:35:36] Voice 9: does adopt the bylaws, the next step would be for both bylaws to be consolidated

[1:35:41] Voice 9: in the base land use bylaw and also the OCP.

[1:35:44] Voice 9: And staff will also be reporting back in another LTC meeting as the Galliano LTC development

[1:35:52] Voice 9: approval information bylaw will have to be amended.

[1:35:56] Voice 9: So that will be forthcoming if the two bylaws are adopted.

[1:36:00] Voice 9: But there's two presentations or motions there for the LTC's consideration.

[1:36:07] Voice 10: Any questions before we consider the resolutions?

[1:36:11] Voice 9: I just comment, I'm not an opposition to these bylaws. I recognize the value of the work that's gone into the groundwater sustainability project.

[1:36:20] Voice 9: My concern that applied with the exemption Q in section 4.6 as worded,

[1:36:26] Voice 9: It appears that the Alice Trust is in a position of determining Indigenous identity, and I think it does that in very narrow and specific terms that I don't believe that's appropriate for us.

[1:36:37] Voice 9: At the same time, I acknowledge the process that is involved in a significant input discussion from the community and from the Connecticut, and I don't believe it would be appropriate for me to oppose the adoption of the fire list simply on the basis of a single exemption as well.

[1:36:56] Voice 9: so i support moving forward but i did not make concern for

[1:37:02] Voice 6: yeah i appreciate that lisa um i think a lot of work has gone into this even prior to our

[1:37:10] Voice 6: our beginning and um i appreciate the work that the panel could have put into this and um and

[1:37:17] Voice 6: we've had a as a lively engagement with the community on this um i was in favor obviously

[1:37:26] Voice 6: obviously on that particular exemption, exemption B.

[1:37:30] Voice 6: And, but I'm prepared to move ahead with both of these.

[1:37:34] Voice 6: So on that, I'm going to move that the Galliano

[1:37:38] Voice 6: Island Local Trust Committee proposed bylaw number 283

[1:37:41] Voice 6: cited as the Galliano Island Official Community Plan

[1:37:44] Voice 6: bylaw number 108, 1995,

[1:37:46] Voice 6: amendment number 12022 be adopted.

[1:37:50] Voice 8: Can I have a second?

[1:37:51] Voice 6: Seconded.

[1:37:51] Voice 6: Any further discussion?

[1:37:53] Voice 6: I'll call the question.

[1:37:54] Voice 6: All those in favor?

[1:37:56] Voice 6: and the motion carries i move that the galliano island local trust committee proposed bylaw number

[1:38:02] Voice 6: 284 cited as the galliano island managed bylaw number 127 1999 amendment number one two zero

[1:38:09] Voice 6: two two be adopted seconded

[1:38:12] Voice 10: and uh any further discussion question all those in favor and that

[1:38:18] Voice 10: carries as well okay that moves us on to the active projects report at page 149 and i'll

[1:38:30] Voice 10: turn it over to clatter's doctor thank

[1:38:31] Voice 9: you um the only update i have for announcement is that there

[1:38:36] Voice 9: will be a electronic special meeting on friday september say it's the 19th at 10 a.m and this

[1:38:49] Voice 9: the staff are going to be doing a presentation going over the highlights of the project to date

[1:38:54] Voice 9: and potential issues or topics and really the key is getting um comments from property owners

[1:39:03] Voice 9: uh on the associated islands and boat access only um there was a better amount to all those

[1:39:10] Voice 9: property owners with in regards to this special meeting um but all community members can attend

[1:39:16] Voice 9: turn all um comments are important and so that was happening not this friday but next friday

[1:39:22] Voice 9: 10 o'clock and then the next time okay

[1:39:27] Voice 5: uh any

[1:39:31] Voice 10: questions from trustees

[1:39:34] Voice 10: actually

[1:39:35] Voice 9: sorry i guess you could take off the groundwater uh the groundwater project

[1:39:41] Voice 9: the project revenue after the project list it's still on there it

[1:39:45] Voice 10: is it is let's

[1:39:47] Voice 9: make it still on

[1:39:48] Voice 10: make resolution to remove that item yeah

[1:39:54] Voice 8: what is it um

[1:40:04] Voice 9: I mean I guess I can simply remove it or if you'd like to make a

[1:40:10] Voice 9: um a motion that's great too um do we need to remove it before we to do the

[1:40:15] Voice 9: minutes no i don't think so i think yeah it's going to be yeah i think that you can certainly

[1:40:24] Voice 9: um all right i'll make the motion okay

[1:40:28] Voice 8: i'm

[1:40:30] Voice 9: in the local trust community removed

[1:40:33] Voice 9: uh minor project ground to see the bill sustainability and the active projects

[1:40:41] Voice 10: any further discussion uh call the question all those in favor

[1:40:46] Voice 10: and that carries uh next up on page 150 is the future project report head back over

[1:40:53] Voice 10: no

[1:40:55] Voice 9: items uh to update the ltc on um i know that a targeted ocp is not the future project

[1:41:09] Voice 9: before i'm not sure that's something ltc wants to add um although a it is potentially going to be

[1:41:16] Voice 9: a active project early next year so you may want to consider adding a future projects report just

[1:41:24] Voice 9: so we have it on there okay

[1:41:28] Voice 6: would we do that prior to being approved by the in the budget

[1:41:33] Voice 6: uh

[1:41:34] Voice 9: this is just your future projects report so there would be no implications to adding it to

[1:41:39] Voice 9: that list oh yeah i wouldn't recommend putting it on your active project list but for your future

[1:41:47] Voice 9: project report and people out there if you wish you don't have to but it is nice to have it on

[1:41:52] Voice 9: there so it's tracked so you've got your date receipt and staff can add little updates to it

[1:41:57] Voice 9: as we go all right i think it's that on motion certainly

[1:42:03] Voice 8: i

[1:42:04] Voice 9: move that the local trust committee

[1:42:05] Voice 9: the ad for cp review see the future projects yes

[1:42:12] Voice 8: okay

[1:42:14] Voice 10: no second seconded any further discussion

[1:42:18] Voice 10: call the question all in favor and that motion carries let's talk um

[1:42:24] Voice 9: i had a note in my um

[1:42:29] Voice 9: like a notebook notes from the last ltc meeting recording a staff a request for staff to

[1:42:37] Voice 9: come back with a motion to add a hearing gpa update to the future project list um it's currently

[1:42:45] Voice 9: not on the future project list but that item would certainly be a part of the oc targeted ocp review

[1:42:53] Voice 9: so would you like me just to add that item under the targeted ocp review or did you want it as a

[1:43:00] Voice 9: separate item on the future projects list i would i would

[1:43:05] Voice 6: put it under the ocp okay yeah i don't

[1:43:09] Voice 9: think it's a it's not a new project it's an update with provincial right standards it's supposed to

[1:43:14] Voice 9: be which

[1:43:15] Voice 6: we've been doing where it's not

[1:43:16] Voice 9: expanding the dpa or anything like that it's just aligning

[1:43:19] Voice 9: great i will add that um so it's noted and tracked great thank you thank

[1:43:25] Voice 8: you

[1:43:26] Voice 10: um so moving this along

[1:43:29] Voice 10: long then um applications report on page 151 anything there today no

[1:43:46] Voice 8: questions from any one

[1:43:47] Voice 8: other

[1:43:47] Voice 6: applications report yes question um under um pldp 22501 the applicant name is justine start

[1:44:00] Voice 6: start, so she's CRD. So is this for the trail network?

[1:44:04] Voice 6: I don't

[1:44:06] Voice 3: know what this is.

[1:44:08] Voice 9: Yeah, so that's in regards to the housing pro, this is, sorry, yeah, 20-25-174.

[1:44:16] Voice 6: Right, yeah, so

[1:44:17] Voice 6: this was for...

[1:44:18] Voice 6: Yeah,

[1:44:18] Voice 9: so this DP unfortunately was missed. It's the tree cutting DP, the plus all, yeah, this is for the housing project.

[1:44:25] Voice 3: So they're trying to do

[1:44:25] Voice 9: a practical development permit.

[1:44:29] Voice 6: Oh, so the CRD gets to do that.

[1:44:48] Voice 9: As long as all of the guidelines in the DPA are applied with, it goes to the Director

[1:44:55] Voice 9: for approval.

[1:44:57] Voice 10: Thank you.

[1:44:58] Voice 10: here anything else on this report no okay we have our trustee local expense report uh on page 157

[1:45:10] Voice 10: and adopted policies and standing resolutions on page 158 and then we have the um ltc meeting

[1:45:19] Voice 10: procedures repeal bylaw on page 163 plan our stock bills introduced sorry

[1:45:34] Voice 9: this is for the

[1:45:36] Voice 9: Yeah, repeal bylaw.

[1:45:38] Voice 9: I was working on something. I apologize.

[1:45:42] Voice 9: Okay, so at the June 2025

[1:45:47] Voice 9: Trust Council meeting, the Trust Council

[1:45:51] Voice 9: adopted a meeting procedures bylaw that would

[1:45:55] Voice 9: be applicable for all LTCs.

[1:46:00] Voice 9: Based on the draft LTC meeting procedures bylaw

[1:46:03] Voice 9: on the LTC meeting. Staff based the draft OTC meeting procedures by law on the LTC committee

[1:46:12] Voice 9: meeting procedures by law that Trust Council adopted in December 5th of 2023. There have

[1:46:20] Voice 9: been some additions which are noted on page 164 of the agenda. So the additions are, especially

[1:46:32] Voice 9: Especially in regards to the Galliano procedure, the meeting procedure bylaw, things that have now been added to the model bylaw are delegations or a bit more of invited presentations and public participation.

[1:46:45] Voice 9: So those are actually not included in the Galliano meeting procedure bylaw and those are now in the model bylaw.

[1:46:52] Voice 9: Under Section 11 of the Islands Trust Act, a Trust Council meeting procedures by-law

[1:47:00] Voice 9: for LTCs would override any LTC meeting procedures by-law in the event of a conflict.

[1:47:07] Voice 9: So the Trust Council by-law overrides the LTC meeting procedure by-law.

[1:47:11] Voice 9: So there is direction that the LTC repeals the current LTC meeting procedures bylaw in

[1:47:23] Voice 9: order to adopt the Trust Council's bylaw because having both would be redundant.

[1:47:30] Voice 9: So there are on page 163 of the agenda, four recommendations for the LTC to be considered

[1:47:38] Voice 9: and that would be to repeal um the current ltc procedures bylaw and giving first reading

[1:47:45] Voice 9: secondly and thirdly and sending it to executive committee consideration

[1:47:53] Voice 10: too much there um trustees remember this from trust council i do

[1:48:03] Voice 3: whether

[1:48:03] Voice 10: we like it or not the trust council bylaw now um uh is takes precedence over

[1:48:10] Voice 10: the local bylaw

[1:48:11] Voice 10: and the local bylaw now becomes a an appendage uh with no uh with no force

[1:48:19] Voice 10: i

[1:48:21] Voice 9: have seen in the past how our bylaws may be silent around allegations and that's provided

[1:48:32] Voice 9: a lot of stress to the applicant, you know, trying to fill in the details ourselves and

[1:48:42] Voice 9: trying to guess at them. Having like a delegation bylaws is really a step forward for us. I

[1:48:47] Voice 9: think there's clarity, there's transparency. I do think it's something we need to do.

[1:48:56] Voice 6: I find this interesting because we have two trustees who voted against the bylaw. And

[1:49:02] Voice 6: And I mean, the fact that Trust Council will override the local Trust Committee on what they see to be the best way to engage with the public, I think is a problem.

[1:49:14] Voice 6: I voted against that at Trust Council.

[1:49:17] Voice 6: I'm still going to vote against it.

[1:49:19] Voice 6: So unfortunately, Tim, I'm going to leave it up to you to decide which way this one goes.

[1:49:25] Voice 6: I understand if we're all part of trust council and we technically endorse what trust council

[1:49:33] Voice 6: does as a body, but the fact is that I think each local trust committee should be able

[1:49:39] Voice 6: to have some sort of local distinction in how they want to engage with the public.

[1:49:51] Voice 6: and um so for that reason i i have come all supporting the recommendation

[1:49:59] Voice 6: things

[1:50:00] Voice 9: like the um the sheriff's rules are identified in the act we can't change that

[1:50:07] Voice 9: they're there they're not changed we're not changing the act by changing the procedure

[1:50:10] Voice 9: and we do have the tool of a standing resolution if say we wanted to um yeah standing resolution

[1:50:23] Voice 9: we should say oh sorry a person designated in the act to authorize signing signing documents

[1:50:28] Voice 9: on behalf of the trust committee we can make that a standing resolution it wouldn't be in

[1:50:33] Voice 9: the meeting procedures like it is right now we can but we can make that we can we can tool it

[1:50:39] Voice 9: how we want it to be as long as it's not conflicting with trust counsel yeah and i

[1:50:46] Voice 10: I mean, I would just state, both of you know what I expressed my opposition to Trust Council procedures by law, superseding the local bylaws.

[1:50:59] Voice 10: And mainly because I think that there are cases in which the local trust committee ability to customize procedures by law is a positive thing.

[1:51:12] Voice 10: um my point of view didn't win the day at trust council that's okay and i accept that um uh but

[1:51:22] Voice 10: i will say that uh uh given the reality um i i didn't vote against the resolution on my own ltc

[1:51:32] Voice 10: and and i won't vote against it today because um in law this the existing

[1:51:43] Voice 10: it's no longer functional it's superseded so uh other than i guess uh you know the notion of a

[1:51:52] Voice 10: protest vote but it doesn't it doesn't do anything um to to vote against it and so that's where i'm

[1:51:59] Voice 10: at uh failed to carry the day of trust council and here we are so uh but we do have some

[1:52:06] Voice 10: recommendations

[1:52:07] Voice 6: in front of us and i understand and i appreciate that and i appreciate that

[1:52:11] Voice 6: uh trustee peterson it's this is not the time it's not the end of the world i agree with you

[1:52:19] Voice 6: it's not the end of the world it just strikes me as incrementally where if you watch the way

[1:52:27] Voice 6: trust council wants to have everything exactly the same on every item right i mean that approach of

[1:52:34] Voice 6: of top-down governance is not something I believe in.

[1:52:42] Voice 6: And so, you know, here's just another tiny little step

[1:52:49] Voice 6: where Trust Council is making us all the same

[1:52:55] Voice 6: and every island is not all the same.

[1:52:57] Voice 6: Every community, every single one of those islands

[1:53:01] Voice 6: is completely different than the other one.

[1:53:04] Voice 6: and we should

[1:53:06] Voice 6: I think

[1:53:07] Voice 6: embrace that

[1:53:10] Voice 6: rather than trying to

[1:53:12] Voice 6: you know constantly make

[1:53:15] Voice 6: everything vanilla

[1:53:16] Voice 6: right

[1:53:18] Voice 6: so I understand

[1:53:21] Voice 6: I understand what the position

[1:53:24] Voice 6: is here

[1:53:25] Voice 6: but I think it's

[1:53:28] Voice 6: you know at some point

[1:53:30] Voice 6: there is a pushback

[1:53:33] Voice 6: and

[1:53:34] Voice 6: And I think a couple of the other people at Trust Council, too, we're pushing back a little bit there, too, as well.

[1:53:44] Voice 6: And it's a shame that we get to where, you know, it's Trust Council and then it'll be another organization that's above them that dictates to us everything that we do.

[1:53:58] Voice 6: And eventually we're nothing, right?

[1:54:02] Voice 6: and a really good example is we issue a DP after a higher level of government is applied to our

[1:54:09] Voice 6: and so it shows you where we are in that process right and so it's just counter to what I believe

[1:54:21] Voice 6: yeah

[1:54:21] Voice 10: and it is it's as you said maybe the hill to die on are the most important

[1:54:28] Voice 10: example but it is around the tension within violence trust between local autonomy

[1:54:33] Voice 10: and and and federation federation by policy and uh and i see value in both at some levels um

[1:54:46] Voice 10: again this isn't the one that you know i did push back because i i do value the economy

[1:54:53] Voice 10: you know the death by a thousand that sort of uh notion is is isn't something that uh i look

[1:55:02] Voice 10: forward to but um but here we are and and perhaps if it was a a less procedural bylaw i'd be um

[1:55:15] Voice 10: maintaining opposition well

[1:55:19] Voice 6: i understand yeah executive committee you're not you're not you're

[1:55:22] Voice 6: you're in a different position than i am i

[1:55:23] Voice 10: i guess if there was i guess if there was any hope that

[1:55:26] Voice 10: the local uh that the local bylaw could still um have force or value at this point but because it

[1:55:37] Voice 10: is legally superseded by the trust council kind of a moot point is i guess you know whether i

[1:55:44] Voice 10: like that or not i i recognize that as the case

[1:55:47] Voice 8: okay i

[1:55:50] Voice 9: just raised that um we're talking about

[1:55:53] Voice 9: like the uh about the myths about standardizing the minutes format as well right like that that's

[1:55:58] Voice 9: what these this firewall is supposed to help achieve is the standardization for a lot of

[1:56:03] Voice 9: that we do which would be helpful in the long run and anything that we felt is uh encumbering or

[1:56:10] Voice 9: taking away from the galliano style that we do things we can put that back we just have to

[1:56:16] Voice 9: identify it and make motions around it

[1:56:19] Voice 10: unless it's directly at odds with the dress council

[1:56:22] Voice 10: which i

[1:56:22] Voice 9: don't think it would because our powers are impacted by the show staff

[1:56:29] Voice 10: at any rate i

[1:56:32] Voice 9: will entertain

[1:56:33] Voice 10: the motion i

[1:56:35] Voice 9: think it's a lot easier to change the standing

[1:56:37] Voice 9: resolution of this to change by law so you can always use

[1:56:41] Voice 9: that if you've got yourself

[1:56:45] Voice 9: um on that shall i make the motion

[1:56:49] Voice 6: I

[1:56:50] Voice 9: move that the Galliano Local Trust Committee give bylaw number 298 cited as the Galliano

[1:56:58] Voice 9: Local Trust Committee meeting procedures repealed bylaw number 298 2025 first reading.

[1:57:06] Voice 10: Second.

[1:57:07] Voice 9: Thank you.

[1:57:09] Voice 10: Any further discussion?

[1:57:12] Voice 10: All right.

[1:57:13] Voice 10: I'll call the question.

[1:57:13] Voice 10: All those in favor?

[1:57:14] Voice 9: Thank you.

[1:57:16] Voice 9: I move that the Galeano Local Trust Committee give bylaw 298,

[1:57:20] Voice 9: citing Galeano Local Trust Committee meeting procedures,

[1:57:24] Voice 9: repealed bylaw number 298-2025, second reading.

[1:57:29] Voice 10: I'll second the motion.

[1:57:30] Voice 10: Any discussion?

[1:57:32] Voice 10: All those in favor?

[1:57:35] Voice 10: Any opposed?

[1:57:37] Voice 10: Would you like to...

[1:57:39] Voice 10: Actually, that's for you to say that.

[1:57:41] Voice 10: I don't mind that.

[1:57:41] Voice 10: I

[1:57:42] Voice 9: move that the

[1:57:44] Voice 9: Galeano Trust Committee

[1:57:48] Voice 9: in bylaw number 298, cited as a Galeano Local Trust Committee

[1:57:52] Voice 9: meeting procedures for repeal bylaw number 298, 2025,

[1:57:58] Voice 9: third reading.

[1:57:59] Voice 10: Selected the motion.

[1:58:01] Voice 10: Any further discussion?

[1:58:02] Voice 10: No.

[1:58:03] Voice 10: I'll call the question, all those in favor?

[1:58:05] Voice 10: Any opposed?

[1:58:07] Voice 10: Motion carries.

[1:58:08] Voice 10: Thank you.

[1:58:09] Voice 9: I move that the Galeano Local Trust Committee

[1:58:11] Voice 9: be in bylaw number 298, cited as a Galeano Local Trust

[1:58:15] Voice 9: Committee meeting procedures for repeal bylaw number 298,

[1:58:20] Voice 9: 2025 in the final trust executive committee for consideration of approval second the motion

[1:58:27] Voice 10: any further discussion question all those in favor any opposed and motion carries

[1:58:37] Voice 9: chair by me yes for

[1:58:39] Voice 9: my analysis of it i do think that we the chair being authorized to

[1:58:44] Voice 9: find documents something after the ltc would be a worthwhile meeting procedure

[1:58:47] Voice 9: future, perhaps standing resolution for us to have, which has been repealed.

[1:58:52] Voice 9: Do you want to make a standing resolution on that?

[1:58:56] Voice 10: You're certainly welcome to go ahead and propose one.

[1:58:58] Voice 9: I can pitch a motion.

[1:59:00] Voice 10: Yeah, and

[1:59:01] Voice 6: I, go ahead, do the motion first.

[1:59:04] Voice 6: I

[1:59:04] Voice 9: move that the Galliano Local Trust Committee adopt the following standing resolution, that

[1:59:10] Voice 9: the chair, or the person designated to act in the chair's absence, is authorized to sign

[1:59:15] Voice 9: documents on behalf of the local trust committee

[1:59:17] Voice 10: seconded um you want to speak to the motion uh no

[1:59:24] Voice 9: i think it's pretty self-explanatory it is something that's been repealed and i think

[1:59:27] Voice 9: it's an important part of it it's

[1:59:30] Voice 9: not technically a meeting procedure i would say even so it would

[1:59:33] Voice 9: not actually belong in a dialogue but i think it's a good uh it'll clean up a lot of the work

[1:59:38] Voice 9: well

[1:59:39] Voice 6: it's important in the issuances of the dps and all those things that need to be signed by

[1:59:44] Voice 6: the chair and need to be signed and i think it's it but yeah excuse

[1:59:50] Voice 9: me chair could you reread that

[1:59:52] Voice 9: please a motion yes please just for the minutes thank you i move

[2:00:00] Voice 9: Galeano Local Trust Committee adopt the following standing resolution that the chair or the person

[2:00:07] Voice 9: designated to act in the chair's absence is authorized to sign documents on behalf of the

[2:00:15] Voice 9: local trust committee thank

[2:00:20] Voice 8: you all

[2:00:23] Voice 10: righty um all those in favor and that carries okay thank you for

[2:00:33] Voice 10: that uh that brings us down to the public notification bylaw starting at page 167.

[2:00:45] Voice 9: okay would you like me to do a quick overview sure okay the community charter is sorry this

[2:00:51] Voice 9: is in regards to a draft public notification bylaw that's bylaw number 299 and the recommendations

[2:01:02] Voice 9: for consideration of approval charter establishes the requirements for publishing public notice

[2:01:11] Voice 9: where public notices are required by the local government act the community charter

[2:01:18] Voice 9: includes a default requirement but also an option for local governments to adopt an alternative

[2:01:25] Voice 9: means by bylaw. So that's what the LTC is considering today, the alternative means by

[2:01:31] Voice 9: bylaw. But the default requirement is a publication in two editions of a newspaper once each week

[2:01:43] Voice 9: for two consecutive weeks. And this newspaper has to be circulated within the local area.

[2:01:49] Voice 9: And for the Galliano LTC, that's the direct for the newspaper. So if the LTC would like

[2:01:55] Voice 9: to adopt an alternative by law it must consider the principles of effective public notice and

[2:02:05] Voice 9: that's included in the staff report of page 168 and the principles are that you need to ensure

[2:02:12] Voice 9: that the publication is reliable suitable and accessible so considering those three principles

[2:02:21] Voice 9: goals there are some public notice options that are available to the ltc to include in this

[2:02:28] Voice 9: potential bylaw that is online or print newspaper the island's trust webpage community community

[2:02:35] Voice 9: website or newsletter island's trust social media page such as facebook and or also also a direct

[2:02:43] Voice 9: email on handouts. At the June 2025 Trust Council meeting, the model

[2:02:50] Voice 9: bylaw was adopted for a public notice bylaw, and this contains a format for such a bylaw and recommends the use of IMOS Trust websites and also social media for the post notices.

[2:03:07] Voice 9: So there is a draft for the LTC's consideration and those would be for public notices to be

[2:03:18] Voice 9: posted electronically on the Islands Trust webpage and also electronically on the Islands

[2:03:26] Voice 9: Trust social media platform.

[2:03:28] Voice 9: So as I mentioned there's motions for the first segment of reading and then moving it

[2:03:35] Voice 9: it to executive committee for uh consideration of the rule right

[2:03:41] Voice 10: thank you and so uh should the

[2:03:45] Voice 10: local trust committee wish to um amend uh then i would suggest we would do that first and then

[2:03:56] Voice 10: go back to the um the uh motions on page 167 so uh let's just open up for for discussion and and

[2:04:09] Voice 10: see where we're going today i

[2:04:15] Voice 9: just note that on page 161 of our agenda that we do have a standing

[2:04:22] Voice 9: resolution already that the county trust committee will advertise um hearing notices in the active

[2:04:29] Voice 9: page magazines and additionally to legally required advertising and addressed with newspaper

[2:04:37] Voice 9: so whether that needs to change i'm worried about um yeah this resolution will affect that

[2:04:44] Voice 9: setting resolution but we have the option to make another resolution ourselves

[2:04:49] Voice 9: we require we'll want to make the uh meet the moment with the what we bring today in

[2:04:55] Voice 9: the community about advertising and they have to page or yeah

[2:05:00] Voice 10: um and what i would recommend

[2:05:02] Voice 10: is because this is although it's a model from trust council they proposed uh bylaw number 299

[2:05:11] Voice 10: starting on page 171 um if there's desire to amend that i think we should do that first and

[2:05:21] Voice 10: and then go back to the previous.

[2:05:24] Voice 10: So discussion, thoughts, comments.

[2:05:36] Voice 8: Yeah, I mean, I think,

[2:05:38] Voice 8: I

[2:05:45] Voice 6: don't think that this is suitable right now,

[2:05:49] Voice 6: just the two, the website and electronically posting.

[2:05:56] Voice 6: The way we sort of do it now is we post as well,

[2:06:01] Voice 6: physically post.

[2:06:05] Voice 6: The problem I have with the newspapers is, well, first of all, you know, I'm posting

[2:06:11] Voice 6: in our local papers, that doesn't work because we're, you know, it doesn't meet the requirements

[2:06:16] Voice 6: to be able to get notices out.

[2:06:19] Voice 6: So the driftwood is the only one that does.

[2:06:25] Voice 6: The problem we have with newspapers is, of course, they're a dying industry, some people

[2:06:38] Voice 6: will still buy the newspapers and i mean one of my joys years ago was when i got to the ferry

[2:06:44] Voice 6: terminal i could go out and get the global mail and sit down on my vehicle and read the global

[2:06:48] Voice 6: mail and it used to be a newspaper and then one day i got there and it's like 10 bucks for two

[2:06:54] Voice 6: pages and you're going that's not happening anymore right and i'm sorry the notion that we find

[2:07:08] Voice 6: something in the newspaper by mistake and that's how it's brought to our attention it's not a great

[2:07:14] Voice 6: way to do it either right i mean if we had an open paper that came out every two weeks i'd be going

[2:07:20] Voice 6: absolutely we post in our local paper right so i just want to see um in here that we we continue

[2:07:29] Voice 6: to post on our notice boards as well and i think that's we sort of read them to meet the

[2:07:39] Voice 6: meet the day right there

[2:07:41] Voice 6: is what this party does.

[2:07:43] Voice 3: Right?

[2:07:43] Voice 6: I mean, there's only, we're limited

[2:07:45] Voice 6: to what we can do.

[2:07:46] Voice 6: And

[2:07:47] Voice 6: I mean, it'll only be a few more years

[2:07:51] Voice 6: and then the drifting won't exist either.

[2:07:54] Voice 6: Because it's like the Times

[2:07:55] Voice 6: colonist, I mean, nobody buys the paper,

[2:07:57] Voice 6: we just have it out on our phone

[2:07:59] Voice 6: and we read it there and absolutely none of this

[2:08:01] Voice 6: stuff is in the

[2:08:03] Voice 6: Times colonist app.

[2:08:05] Voice 6: Right? So even newspapers online

[2:08:07] Voice 6: don't include any of the postings.

[2:08:10] Voice 6: right so right so

[2:08:14] Voice 9: adding the notice board to the list

[2:08:17] Voice 6: i think yeah for sure yeah

[2:08:20] Voice 9: very good question and this was brought up at the south pender ltc last week and the otc actually

[2:08:27] Voice 9: did include um posting on community boards but apparently um that actually should not be included

[2:08:36] Voice 9: the draft bylaw because there's already it says under section 94.2 of the community charter it

[2:08:47] Voice 9: says a bylaw adopted under this section must specify at least two means of publication

[2:08:54] Voice 9: by which notice is to be published so so far that's the website and social media

[2:09:01] Voice 9: but not including posting in the public notice posting places so i guess that's a requirement

[2:09:09] Voice 9: elsewhere in the community charter is that a standing motion yeah for me is that a standing

[2:09:16] Voice 6: resolution it could

[2:09:18] Voice 3: be a standing

[2:09:19] Voice 9: resolution but it looks like that posting in public for

[2:09:22] Voice 9: community of sports shouldn't be a part of this draft bylaw because it's addressed also

[2:09:26] Voice 9: for an opinion charter so actually the bylaw that the south pender ltc adopted has to go back to

[2:09:31] Voice 9: them to repeal that section so i'm not as well versed in the charter so i can see about getting

[2:09:39] Voice 9: robert kojima or data borrower by zoom if you have any questions but based on recommendations

[2:09:44] Voice 9: by our team kojima it should not be included in this draft there's also already a requirement

[2:09:52] Voice 9: in the community that you can kind of double back on that and include it as a standing resolution

[2:09:58] Voice 9: right yeah

[2:10:00] Voice 10: just looking at uh this is on page 168 where it's the

[2:10:06] Voice 10: list some options of the online or print newspaper uh you know the website community newsletter

[2:10:13] Voice 10: obviously we know that that is environments it doesn't mean it can be done anyway and the only

[2:10:18] Voice 10: other thing that i see is listed as meeting requirements is direct email or mail out

[2:10:24] Voice 10: and uh expensive of course that's expensive so um doesn't mean you can put it in there but

[2:10:38] Voice 10: whether or not it's for trout whether or not it's helpful to me to meet the objectives as

[2:10:44] Voice 10: a local trust committee but i just wanted to point out that it is listed as a possibility

[2:10:52] Voice 9: the chair it's not the community boards are not included in this drop by law that's the

[2:10:57] Voice 9: recommendation and it will still be done because it's a requirement of the community charter

[2:11:04] Voice 9: is my understanding right

[2:11:06] Voice 10: okay so online online or print newspaper or correct email or mail out

[2:11:11] Voice 10: are pretty much the only options that could be added in here that are listed in the report

[2:11:15] Voice 10: yeah

[2:11:15] Voice 9: absolutely that was

[2:11:17] Voice 9: my understanding off this list we may get in trouble which is right

[2:11:22] Voice 9: not

[2:11:22] Voice 10: the end of the world but we might get a flag

[2:11:26] Voice 8: um

[2:11:27] Voice 10: yeah so uh unless there's anything on the list

[2:11:34] Voice 10: the trustees will add to the draft bylaw um then we could go back to those other recommendations

[2:11:45] Voice 6: yeah i think we're in the spot we're in

[2:11:50] Voice 8: um if

[2:11:53] Voice 6: we want to do other stuff just make standing wishes to do it

[2:11:56] Voice 6: we do it anyways and uh carry on i understand we're doing like we're pulsing in the

[2:12:05] Voice 6: in the driftwood anyways so yeah

[2:12:10] Voice 10: um so the recommendations are on page 167.

[2:12:26] Voice 9: I move that the Galliano Local Trust Committee give by-law number 299, cited as Galliano Local Trust Committee, public notification by-law number 299, 2025, first reading.

[2:12:39] Voice 10: Moved. Seconded. Any further discussion? All in favor? That carries.

[2:12:47] Voice 10: I

[2:12:51] Voice 9: move that the Galliano Local Trust Committee give bylaw number 299, cited as Galliano Local

[2:12:56] Voice 9: Trust Committee, public notification. Bylaw number 299, 2025, second reading.

[2:13:04] Voice 10: Second. Any discussion? No. Seeing any, I'll call the question order. All in favor?

[2:13:12] Voice 10: And that carries. Thank you.

[2:13:15] Voice 9: I move that the Galliano Local Trust Committee give bylaw number

[2:13:19] Voice 9: number 299, cited as Galeano Local Trust Committee

[2:13:22] Voice 9: Public Notification By-law, number 299, 2025, third reading.

[2:13:29] Voice 10: Seconded.

[2:13:30] Voice 10: Anything further?

[2:13:31] Voice 10: Call the question.

[2:13:32] Voice 10: All those in favor?

[2:13:34] Voice 10: Carries.

[2:13:35] Voice 9: Finally, I move that the Galeano Local Trust Committee

[2:13:38] Voice 9: give by-law number 299, sorry,

[2:13:41] Voice 9: cited as the Galeano Local Trust Committee

[2:13:44] Voice 9: Public Notification By-law, number 299, 2025,

[2:13:50] Voice 9: to the Islands Trust Executive Committee for consideration of approval.

[2:13:55] Voice 10: Second.

[2:13:56] Voice 10: We're leaving discussion.

[2:13:58] Voice 10: Any other questions?

[2:13:59] Voice 10: All those in favour?

[2:14:01] Voice 10: And the motion carries.

[2:14:04] Okay.

[2:14:07] Voice 10: So, next we have the November 4th meeting change.

[2:14:12] Voice 10: We have a recommendation here from the date.

[2:14:16] And I think we discussed the

[2:14:19] Voice 10: start time.

[2:14:22] Voice 9: i

[2:14:23] Voice 10: don't stop dylan i did either so does that need to be in the recommendation

[2:14:26] Voice 9: it doesn't need to be in the recommendation but the key point is making sure the recommendation

[2:14:30] Voice 9: has the date but it's noted that a 10 a.m start to this electronic meeting would be best

[2:14:37] Voice 9: for the ltc instead of the usual one okay um

[2:14:43] Voice 10: trustees anything on this

[2:14:47] Voice 10: no we need a motion we do

[2:14:49] Voice 6: need a motion okay i move that the galliano local trust committee direct

[2:14:53] Voice 6: staff that came to november 4th 2025 regular meeting to an electronic meeting on october 31st

[2:15:00] Voice 6: 2025 at 10 a.m moved second second any discussion call question all those in favor and the motion

[2:15:09] Voice 6: carries this is for everybody's uh i have a engagement with small craft barbers and gas pay

[2:15:17] Voice 6: go back on november the 4th 56th so that's why i asked for the meeting to be 10 times okay

[2:15:27] Voice 10: for that so our next regular meeting is scheduled for october 14th right here

[2:15:33] Voice 10: and uh we have another town hall opportunity and i'll let's see if there's anyone that might like

[2:15:39] Voice 10: to address a little trust me jennifer um i have a question and

[2:15:47] Voice 9: a comment so my question is now

[2:15:50] Voice 9: Now that exemption Q has been approved as part of the Groundwater Inch Heart Protection Development Permitting Area,

[2:15:57] Voice 9: is it your intention to work towards adding the same exemption to all development permits in the area?

[2:16:07] Voice 6: Well, that will certainly be part of the NCP review.

[2:16:12] Voice 6: I mean, I think that the exemption there, First Nations, is kind of in favor of that.

[2:16:19] Voice 6: And so, obviously, we're going to have to come up with consideration.

[2:16:29] Voice 8: Thanks for that.

[2:16:31] Voice 8: It's our land first.

[2:16:33] Voice 9: Sorry.

[2:16:36] Voice 10: All right.

[2:16:36] Voice 10: Sandy?

[2:16:38] Voice 8: Yeah, just what Ben said, that since 2018, the Trust Policy Statement has been immense.

[2:16:45] Voice 8: But in 2011, the Trust Council applied for gas tax funding to review the Trust Policy Statement.

[2:16:53] Voice 8: And we were awarded $250,000, but in 2012, it was voted to turn it down because maybe $250,000 wasn't going to be enough to cover the ambitious referral or decision that was put forward and that said that there was no public appetite for going forward with that.

[2:17:16] Voice 8: But on another thing, with the development variance, we used to kit the development approval information checklist, and I think that would be helpful for trustees when they're considering all the things that staff considered when they looked at it.

[2:17:40] Voice 8: And if you have other information, you can add it to that.

[2:17:44] Voice 8: And I also noticed, I only noticed this at the standing resolution

[2:17:51] Voice 9: for the use of development permits for variance.

[2:17:54] Voice 9: And it was carried on September 2020.

[2:18:00] Voice 9: We put the development

[2:18:01] Voice 8: permit application where variance is requested to be processed as a combined application with both the development permit and the development variance permit.

[2:18:13] Voice 8: so both together anyway well that's insistent but anyway i guess you could request the development

[2:18:23] Voice 8: approval information that staff considered when they uh when they approve the development

[2:18:30] Voice 8: anyone else

[2:18:43] Voice 10: jennifer i just

[2:18:45] Voice 9: didn't get to my comment

[2:18:46] Voice 4: but i'm sorry

[2:18:46] Voice 9: um it just um is in

[2:18:48] Voice 9: relation to the um the trust policy statement on wednesday and um i was just sent some communication

[2:18:58] Voice 9: from another community member who has submitted a number of questions and they're being asked to

[2:19:04] Voice 9: prioritize the questions because not all of them can be asked and they also have had a trust

[2:19:13] Voice 9: communication specialist providing answers to those questions and I'm just wondering how appropriate that is to have that occur rather than those questions being answered by trustees or other people who the senior policy advisor

[2:19:34] Voice 9: at the session so that everybody can hear the questions and learn the answers.

[2:19:47] Voice 9: So this has been communicated in emails in response to people who didn't submit questions

[2:19:55] Voice 9: by the deadline, but they need to ask, they're being asked to prioritize their questions

[2:20:03] Voice 9: in advance because they're saying not all questions will be answered, but in addition

[2:20:10] Voice 9: to that by email, they are having some of those questions answered by the communication

[2:20:17] Voice 9: specialist.

[2:20:19] Voice 9: Yeah, there's also on the website, there's also a section where you can write in and

[2:20:25] Voice 9: ask questions at any time.

[2:20:28] Voice 9: I imagine you're

[2:20:29] Voice 9: quite busy with being asked quite a few questions at the moment.

[2:20:31] Voice 9: Yeah,

[2:20:32] Voice 4: my point

[2:20:33] Voice 9: is, I don't really think that's appropriate, given that there is supposedly a town hall set up on Wednesday for everybody to hear the questions and the answers.

[2:20:47] Voice 9: So,

[2:20:48] Voice 4: you know, how that, again, it just begs the question, is this really a town hall?

[2:20:54] Voice 9: We'll see if it

[2:20:55] Voice 9: happens tomorrow. Any feedback on it?

[2:21:01] Voice 9: We are in the early stages of this public engagement piece, which will continue on until

[2:21:06] Voice 9: February.

[2:21:08] Voice 9: If it is deemed necessary, I'm going to keep that.

[2:21:12] Voice 9: Share your views.

[2:21:13] Voice 9: It is a better system out there.

[2:21:16] Voice 9: No one of us is as smart as all of us, so we can figure out a better system in the future,

[2:21:21] Voice 9: as we move forward.

[2:21:23] Voice 9: Yeah, it just seems a shame that wasn't set up more as a community information session

[2:21:30] Voice 9: with questions.

[2:21:32] Voice 9: I'm sure there

[2:21:33] Voice 9: will be a tremendous amount of information tomorrow.

[2:21:38] Voice 9: There's a lot to put up on time in this package, so after tomorrow's meeting, if there's still

[2:21:46] Voice 9: questions, I imagine this would be impossible to answer every question tomorrow.

[2:21:51] Voice 9: you

[2:21:51] Voice 10: know just say to the to the point about um uh question writers being asked to prioritize

[2:21:58] Voice 10: questions um i am aware that there are some respondents that have sent in 10 or 12 questions

[2:22:08] Voice 10: um obviously there's only so much time allotted to this particular event and the desire i think

[2:22:17] Voice 10: is to make sure that we hear from as broad a range of people as possible um and i think that that

[2:22:24] Voice 10: makes sense why they'd be asked to prioritize what are your top two out of your dozen questions that

[2:22:29] Voice 10: you'd most likely hear uh about and and as lisa pointed out there's the uh there's the web web

[2:22:36] Voice 10: page interface questions to be asked there and answer this now and um uh my understanding is

[2:22:44] Voice 10: that the senior policy advisor is is the lead on the questions and and and that so um i know

[2:22:54] Voice 10: there's communications uh people involved but the the the director and the senior policy advisor are

[2:23:03] Voice 10: okay

[2:23:04] Voice 3: anything

[2:23:09] Voice 10: else all right then i will call for adjournment

[2:23:16] Voice 9: just um for the on trust conservancy i just wanted to um let the community know that we

[2:23:22] Voice 9: have a new board member jimmy georgeson okay pretty great

[2:23:27] Voice 9: excellent thank you for that

[2:23:33] all

[2:23:35] Voice 10: right now we'll call for adjournment