Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, October 16, 2025

[0:00:00] Voice 20: cameras on

[0:00:00] Trustee Maude (probable): everything's ready to go we have the recording secretary we have trustees and we have

[0:00:08] Trustee Maude (probable): even more staff all right everybody we have slain the dragon and we are having a meeting today

[0:00:16] Trustee Maude (probable): so thank you very much um in case you're all wondering i'm david maude i'm from main island

[0:00:23] Trustee Maude (probable): i'm one of the vice chairs of my own stress um vice chair peterson unfortunately has been

[0:00:28] Trustee Maude (probable): been held captured on Mesquite Island, their ferry's broken down, so they haven't had ferry

[0:00:34] Trustee Maude (probable): service for four days, so he's unable to attend. So I, as the alternate, am attending on his

[0:00:42] Trustee Maude (probable): behalf, so I trust you will have patience with me because even though I've got deep

[0:00:48] Trustee Maude (probable): roots with Salt Spring Island, our family's been here since 1930, I don't have deep roots

[0:00:53] Trustee Maude (probable): with the Salt Spring Island LTC, so you guys might be doing things a little bit differently

[0:00:57] Trustee Maude (probable): than somebody else or i'm not aware of something going on so i'm going to lean on staff and

[0:01:02] Trustee Maude (probable): trustees to to point to me if i get out of line because it's probably going to happen

[0:01:08] Trustee Maude (probable): so anyhow let's thank you today for joining us today for the regular meeting of the salt spring

[0:01:12] Trustee Maude (probable): island local trust committee i want to begin the meeting by acknowledging that we're fortunate to

[0:01:16] Trustee Maude (probable): be able to gather today in locations across the territory of the coast salish people i'm david

[0:01:21] Trustee Maude (probable): mott alexander maynard and i will be chairing this meeting of the salt spring island local trust

[0:01:25] Trustee Maude (probable): Committee. I'm joined again today by your two local trustees, Trustee Harris

[0:01:35] Trustee Maude (probable): and I'm just totally blanking, Trustee Patrick,

[0:01:38] Voice 29: because

[0:01:39] Trustee Maude (probable): my cheat sheet is for another island

[0:01:42] Voice 23: and

[0:01:42] Trustee Maude (probable): I'm going, that's not Lee Middleton. It's like, which one is that one? So

[0:01:47] Trustee Maude (probable): Trustee Patrick,

[0:01:48] Trustee Maude (probable): who I should have deep knowledge and respect for, my apologies, together we make up the South

[0:01:54] Trustee Maude (probable): This meeting is being live streamed and recorded for those who are unable to attend in person

[0:01:58] Trustee Maude (probable): today.

[0:01:59] Trustee Maude (probable): The recording will be posted to the Island Trust website for future viewing.

[0:02:02] Trustee Maude (probable): We have some staff members joining us today.

[0:02:06] Trustee Maude (probable): I believe I saw Staten Surimac, the planning manager, Chris

[0:02:13] Trustee Maude (probable): Hutton, who is the regional

[0:02:15] Trustee Maude (probable): planning manager.

[0:02:17] Trustee Maude (probable): We have Carney Bilney, who is our recording secretary.

[0:02:20] Trustee Maude (probable): In the background, we have Alistair Tresfani, who has magically appeared and got our Zoom meeting going, which we very much appreciate.

[0:02:31] Trustee Maude (probable): And I think that's it for today's meeting.

[0:02:34] Trustee Maude (probable): And I also note that Vice Chair Peterson is hanging in the background.

[0:02:39] Trustee Maude (probable): So he will be undoubtedly giving me crib sheets of what I'm not supposed to be doing.

[0:02:46] Trustee Maude (probable): So anyhow, this is an official forum for your local trust committee to make decisions about land use planning matters and discuss relevant business.

[0:02:53] Trustee Maude (probable): I want to add that this is a place of employment, our staff, the right to a safe and respectful workplace.

[0:03:00] Trustee Maude (probable): So before us, we have an agenda.

[0:03:04] Trustee Maude (probable): Do we have any additions or deletions or comments?

[0:03:08] Trustee Maude (probable): Trustee Harris.

[0:03:09] Trustee Maude (probable): yes

[0:03:09] Voice 9: through the chair um i'm hoping we have

[0:03:12] Voice 9: a we're going to have a discussion in both bylaw 534

[0:03:16] Voice 9: and i think possibly rescinding that bylaw there was talk of it at the last

[0:03:25] Voice 9: ltc meeting and i didn't see anything on it on this agenda here today i could be mistaken but

[0:03:30] Voice 9: if there isn't something in the agenda i'd like to add it yeah i

[0:03:34] Trustee Maude (probable): think i caught something

[0:03:34] Trustee Maude (probable): on the follow-up action list on that um

[0:03:36] Voice 11: yeah it was on the follow-up action list unfortunately

[0:03:39] Voice 11: Unfortunately, with the action, the correction and the additional tax, this is something we're here with at this meeting, so

[0:03:46] Voice 9: it's going to be followed up at next meeting.

[0:03:48] Voice 9: So I still would like to talk about it again, if you would allow us to.

[0:03:52] Voice 9: I kind of think there's a bit of a conflict with this whole way, because of the nature of the bylaw, and with it regarding staff, that we are hearing a report from staff on it.

[0:04:06] Voice 9: So I'm going to maybe have some discussion about that today.

[0:04:09] Voice 29: okay um

[0:04:10] Trustee Maude (probable): so something under new business perhaps um or you just want to touch on it when we get to

[0:04:18] Trustee Maude (probable): to the follow-up action list that would probably be appropriate so what would do when we get the

[0:04:25] Trustee Maude (probable): follow-up fashion list we'll talk about it great that's not good okay jesse patrick um

[0:04:30] Trustee Patrick (probable): two things

[0:04:31] Trustee Patrick (probable): i'd like to add just a new business just a brief follow-up on um the minister's visit yesterday

[0:04:36] Trustee Patrick (probable): just a conversation and Minister that's Minister Boyle and I don't know if this

[0:04:44] Trustee Patrick (probable): would be the appropriate time to talk about whether or not we should proceed

[0:04:47] Trustee Patrick (probable): with the public hearings today or not I

[0:04:51] Trustee Maude (probable): would suggest it is because it's the

[0:04:53] Trustee Maude (probable): agenda item so yeah

[0:04:57] Trustee Patrick (probable): I mean I know there's a number of people here for the

[0:05:00] Trustee Patrick (probable): public hearings today that would like I'm just concerned with the mail strike

[0:05:04] Trustee Patrick (probable): affecting the driftwood being delivered on Salt Spring

[0:05:07] Trustee Patrick (probable): for the last two weeks.

[0:05:10] Trustee Patrick (probable): I do understand notice was couriered to the people living

[0:05:15] Trustee Patrick (probable): within proximity of the two properties,

[0:05:17] Trustee Patrick (probable): but I'm just concerned that we'll be criticized

[0:05:20] Trustee Patrick (probable): for proceeding without notice being robust

[0:05:24] Trustee Patrick (probable): to the general public.

[0:05:27] Trustee Patrick (probable): And so I'm just concerned on what level of criticism

[0:05:30] Trustee Patrick (probable): we're going to have.

[0:05:33] Voice 9: Okay.

[0:05:34] Voice 9: Trustee Harris?

[0:05:35] Voice 9: I don't see the concern to hold off the public hearings for today.

[0:05:39] Voice 9: The papers are out in all kinds of stores and whatnot throughout the island.

[0:05:45] Voice 9: There certainly has been lots of feedback from the community on other issues that have been in the newspapers.

[0:05:52] Voice 9: And we've got a fairly good town hall here today.

[0:05:56] Voice 9: I think it's only appropriate that we have it today and not cancel it.

[0:06:04] Trustee Maude (probable): so staff feedback on on

[0:06:08] Voice 11: whether to hold the public hearing or not uh well the only thing

[0:06:12] Voice 11: i will say is that um we notified for public hearing today so my recommendation uh probably

[0:06:18] Voice 11: be that we open these meetings and that we we adjourn them to the next ltc meeting so the

[0:06:24] meeting period would stay open until uh you know possibly the number six um the other option would

[0:06:31] be to um to

[0:06:34] Voice 11: simply hold that hearing and then have a second public hearing so there's two things at

[0:06:39] Voice 11: play there if we adjourn then we've notified everybody in the room of when that meeting will

[0:06:43] take place we don't have any requirement uh and like we wouldn't provide another

[0:06:49] Voice 11: statutory notice

[0:06:50] Voice 11: we wouldn't republish um the the best alternative probably would be because we said we'd have a

[0:06:56] Voice 11: public hearing and everything we heard today would be carried forward into a second public hearing

[0:07:01] Voice 11: would be possibly to hold that public hearing and then direct with the staff to conduct another

[0:07:05] Voice 11: public hearing in a future date so in that case it doesn't need to be set today and we can we can

[0:07:11] Voice 11: adapt to that so what i will say though is that we're in a period right now where um the ltc

[0:07:17] Voice 11: meeting is three weeks away the next ltc meeting is this three weeks away so uh we would not be

[0:07:21] Voice 11: able to hold a second public hearing on november 6th even if all of our staff is back tomorrow

[0:07:26] Voice 11: tomorrow. What would happen, though, as a candidate, well, so what would be just because

[0:07:33] Voice 11: of the notification timeline. So there's a limit there that we could we could do. So

[0:07:37] even if we had full staff right now, I'd still say I can't give you a public hearing on November

[0:07:42] Voice 11: 6th. So I would, those are your two options really is to just adjourn, try to do this

[0:07:48] Voice 11: on November 6th. Or we can just, I would say hold those meetings. And then if you want

[0:07:54] Voice 11: to ask for a second public hearing on either one or both christine i'm

[0:07:59] Voice 9: not in favor of a second

[0:08:00] Voice 9: public hearing the public hearing was uh scheduled for today people know well about it we've got a

[0:08:05] Voice 9: good turnout here better than we usually do and um you know to to lengthen the process out even

[0:08:12] Voice 9: farther to me is unacceptable

[0:08:15] Voice 23: that

[0:08:17] Voice 9: plays right into the dysfunction of the organization and

[0:08:21] Voice 9: i'm not okay with a second public hearing so we do it today and get it over with

[0:08:26] Voice 9: to Patrick. I

[0:08:27] Trustee Patrick (probable): just want to reiterate what I heard to make sure I heard it correctly from Chris. So

[0:08:31] Trustee Patrick (probable): one option is we open the hearing today and instead of closing it, we adjourn it, which

[0:08:36] Trustee Patrick (probable): can adjourn it to reopen on November 6th, or we close it today and hold a second hearing. I just

[0:08:44] Trustee Patrick (probable): want to understand, is that what I understood from Chris? Yeah. And that decision could be made

[0:08:49] Trustee Patrick (probable): at the before the float before while the public hearings open the

[0:08:54] Voice 11: decision to adjourn or the

[0:08:56] Voice 11: correct yeah yeah you would have to rather than closing the public hearing you would just say this

[0:09:01] Voice 11: this meeting is adjourned so there's really no okay the meeting does not end um it happens within

[0:09:07] Voice 11: a this setting of course but uh if it just picks up yeah it's the same agenda

[0:09:11] Trustee Patrick (probable): thank you that's i

[0:09:13] Trustee Patrick (probable): just wanted to make sure i understood your options thank you um

[0:09:16] Voice 9: again i'm still opposed to that i

[0:09:19] Voice 9: don't see the reason for that i don't understand the rationale for extending it to the next meeting

[0:09:23] Voice 9: but it

[0:09:27] Trustee Maude (probable): sounds like the the idea is to to do it and then at the conclusion make that decision

[0:09:32] Trustee Maude (probable): as to whether it's appropriate or not at that point so okay well

[0:09:37] Voice 9: i'm just saying i'm not in

[0:09:38] Voice 9: favor of that others well rather we have the public hearing that third reading and be done

[0:09:45] Trustee Maude (probable): so trustee patrick okay proceeding and

[0:09:48] Trustee Patrick (probable): then deciding at the

[0:09:49] Trustee Maude (probable): end of the at the moment

[0:09:51] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yes. Okay. May I change my mind? We'll see.

[0:09:54] Trustee Maude (probable): All right. Okay. So we're there.

[0:09:56] Voice 11: Sure.

[0:09:57] Voice 11: I suggested that you may want to add an item to discuss next steps for

[0:10:02] Voice 11: those, for those applications.

[0:10:04] Voice 11: So we're never going to place on the agenda for applications.

[0:10:12] Trustee Maude (probable): All right. So new business. So to discuss.

[0:10:16] Voice 11: Just to discuss whether or not what you want to do,

[0:10:18] Voice 11: if you have those public hearings this afternoon by this afternoon and then

[0:10:22] Voice 11: then we go into the back end of the rig to be wise to maybe just discuss.

[0:10:28] Voice 11: If you want to provide specific direction,

[0:10:30] Voice 11: I'd probably have some additional notes on

[0:10:31] Voice 11: and some additional conversation on that at that time.

[0:10:34] Voice 11: So we're doing it so it would be, okay.

[0:10:39] Voice 11: It would just be another, a new business idea.

[0:10:41] Voice 11: But

[0:10:42] Trustee Maude (probable): that's after or before?

[0:10:45] Voice 20: After.

[0:10:46] Trustee Maude (probable): After.

[0:10:46] Voice 18: Could I please ask that you guys speak up?

[0:10:49] Trustee Maude (probable): Yes.

[0:10:50] Trustee Maude (probable): We

[0:10:50] Voice 18: can hear two of your speakers speaking out loud to each other.

[0:10:52] Voice 18: Thank you.

[0:10:53] Voice 18: I'm having a hard time hearing some of what you're saying.

[0:10:55] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay.

[0:10:56] Trustee Maude (probable): Thanks.

[0:10:57] Trustee Maude (probable): So a new business we're going to discuss.

[0:11:00] Trustee Maude (probable): Next steps.

[0:11:01] Trustee Maude (probable): The next steps.

[0:11:02] Voice 11: Just next steps for public agenda items, I guess, that are items covered in that agenda.

[0:11:12] Voice 11: Okay.

[0:11:12] Voice 11: Anything else with the agenda?

[0:11:16] Voice 11: Mr. Chair, if I could make one note.

[0:11:18] Voice 11: I just want to remind trustees that we had had a discussion about a late start on November

[0:11:23] Voice 11: 6th meeting.

[0:11:24] Voice 11: So I did see a note from, I will admit that this is a reminder from Trustee Peterson just about that, that we need to start late for November 6th.

[0:11:34] Voice 11: So if you want to discuss that, now we're in business.

[0:11:38] Trustee Patrick (probable): That's at the end, item 18 from the agenda.

[0:11:41] Trustee Patrick (probable): Did

[0:11:42] Trustee Maude (probable): I make it in there?

[0:11:42] Trustee Maude (probable): Yep.

[0:11:42] Trustee Maude (probable): Perfect.

[0:11:43] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay.

[0:11:45] Trustee Maude (probable): So that's there.

[0:11:47] Trustee Maude (probable): Anything else?

[0:11:50] Trustee Maude (probable): If not, by general consent, we can adopt the agenda as amended?

[0:11:53] Trustee Maude (probable): yes yes okay we are we have an agenda it's a good start so we now we open up the meeting to a town

[0:12:03] Trustee Maude (probable): hall um we're three minutes on salt spring is that or how do you guys normally conduct

[0:12:12] Voice 20: generally

[0:12:12] Trustee Maude (probable): generously so not

[0:12:14] Voice 20: for i

[0:12:15] Trustee Maude (probable): tend to i don't have a stock watch so

[0:12:24] Voice 9: So

[0:12:24] Trustee Maude (probable): this is, so this is anything else to do with local trust committee, um, business,

[0:12:30] Trustee Maude (probable): um, the, um, if, um, any applicants before us, um, they can, um, speak at the time of

[0:12:37] Trustee Maude (probable): the application, but, um, if you're not an applicant

[0:12:42] Trustee Maude (probable): and you want to speak about an application,

[0:12:43] Trustee Maude (probable): This is the time to do it.

[0:12:47] Trustee Maude (probable): As long as

[0:12:48] Voice 11: it's not a subject of a public hearing, that input needs to be clear.

[0:12:50] Trustee Maude (probable): Yeah, yeah. A little bit more complicated.

[0:12:56] Trustee Maude (probable): And this is a forum for local trust committee business.

[0:13:02] Trustee Maude (probable): If you adjust anything you want in the way of statements or questions, it's through the chair.

[0:13:06] Trustee Maude (probable): chair. We're in so in commentary about staff or trustees not allowed. So let's stick to

[0:13:16] Trustee Maude (probable): local trust me

[0:13:16] Voice 15: this commentary

[0:13:17] Trustee Maude (probable): about staff or trustees are inappropriate in this venue.

[0:13:24] Trustee Maude (probable): So so this is about local trust committee business, sir.

[0:13:29] Voice 9: Yeah, maybe you can let me know if this is the appropriate time. I've got to get back to work, so I'll try to make it quick. This is about the 154 or 164, depending on where you live, King's Landing.

[0:13:44] Trustee Patrick (probable): So they can speak during the time.

[0:13:46] Voice 9: i live in the area and i'm on a well so i sent a letter yesterday

[0:13:57] Voice 9: i'm just concerned about the water i'm very supportive of the developments in general but

[0:14:04] Voice 9: what i understand is there's four large jobs completely like in the very near vicinity

[0:14:11] Voice 9: and it's very poor wells in the area not producing someone and uh producing uh most of them

[0:14:17] Voice 9: running down Seas Point again in the summer, from what I understand. So we've got potentially

[0:14:24] Voice 9: 50 units on Game Green, 35 units potentially frequently, 26 units at the highway for property

[0:14:32] Voice 9: and fire as well, like all ground water. So I just wanted to raise the issue of connection

[0:14:42] Voice 9: I understand that might not be possible, but I think it's an important thing to consider

[0:14:52] Voice 9: seeing that the sum total of these new developments would be drawing more than the sum total of

[0:14:59] Voice 9: the existing wells and the majority of the watershed.

[0:15:03] Voice 9: And I think it's a pretty serious concern to address the water issues in the area.

[0:15:13] Trustee Maude (probable): Anybody else wish to speak?

[0:15:15] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay, I got hands everywhere.

[0:15:17] Trustee Maude (probable): Yeah, thank you.

[0:15:19] Voice 16: And I'm just asking you to do this now

[0:15:21] Voice 16: because I have to leave this as well.

[0:15:22] Voice 16: So, Alinda Adams with

[0:15:25] Voice 16: Gopalan Seniors Residence Association.

[0:15:27] Voice 16: So, we are an applicant,

[0:15:29] Voice 16: but not one of the ones that's subject to the public hearing.

[0:15:31] Voice 16: Okay, so this is regarding the Kings Lane property

[0:15:34] Voice 16: for affordable housing and expansion of the clinic.

[0:15:38] Voice 16: We did write a letter yesterday

[0:15:40] Voice 16: day and i just wanted to be sure you received it i'm not sure that you're seeing i i haven't

[0:15:48] Trustee Maude (probable): that's okay um

[0:15:49] Voice 16: there there's seems to be some sort of inconsistency in the wording of the

[0:15:54] Voice 16: bylaw and i think maybe this has gotten a little uh reality which is all the with staff although

[0:15:59] Voice 16: we've been working closely with them and really appreciate what they've been doing but because

[0:16:03] Voice 16: it's been off just recently um what we're hoping is that you can proceed with first and second

[0:16:09] Voice 16: reading today and that this what you think is a fairly minor inconsistency could be sorted out

[0:16:15] Voice 16: between second and third reading our understanding is the change is the type of change that could be

[0:16:24] Voice 16: made without having to go back and re-notice because it wouldn't require a change in density

[0:16:29] Voice 16: or change in a proposed use so we just wanted to really reiterate that request um if you've

[0:16:38] Voice 16: I've got a question, so I'm going to try and answer them, too.

[0:16:41] Voice 16: Thank you.

[0:16:42] Trustee Maude (probable): Interesting question, too.

[0:16:43] Trustee Maude (probable): Thank you.

[0:16:44] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay.

[0:16:45] Trustee Maude (probable): Thank you.

[0:16:47] Trustee Maude (probable): I saw something.

[0:16:49] Trustee Maude (probable): Yes.

[0:16:50] Trustee Maude (probable): No, it was you, ma'am.

[0:16:52] Trustee Maude (probable): I thought you had your hand up, so.

[0:16:53] Voice 15: Okay.

[0:16:54] Trustee Maude (probable): My

[0:16:54] Voice 15: name is Julia Lissage, and I was speaking to something that was reported as having come

[0:17:00] Voice 15: up at the last meeting, so I'll be responding to that.

[0:17:04] Voice 15: that. I'm grateful to live in a country that allows me to express views that may be unpopular

[0:17:11] Voice 15: or even potentially offensive. As a consequence, I'm free to say that in my estimation,

[0:17:19] Voice 15: guys who are homophobic, misogynistic, and racist perhaps have low IQs and are knuckle drivers.

[0:17:28] Voice 15: Conversely, someone who may be someone else may claim that women should be nothing more

[0:17:34] Voice 15: than greeters and caregivers who are subservient and submissive to their husbands and who should

[0:17:41] Voice 15: have never been given the right to vote.

[0:17:43] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay, I'm going

[0:17:43] Trustee Maude (probable): to have to stop because this is nothing to do with local trust committee

[0:17:46] Trustee Maude (probable): issues.

[0:17:47] Trustee Maude (probable): To

[0:17:47] Voice 15: the extent that it pertains to something raised at the last meeting, perhaps you can

[0:17:52] Voice 15: speak to the chair.

[0:17:53] Voice 15: Chair.

[0:17:54] Trustee Maude (probable): Well, I am the Chair. I

[0:17:56] Trustee Maude (probable): don't

[0:17:58] Trustee Patrick (probable): think sensing the public is a good idea.

[0:18:02] Trustee Maude (probable): Things that you're saying are making people uncomfortable.

[0:18:07] Voice 15: I appreciate that, exactly.

[0:18:09] Voice 15: And that is the point, that what was said was very uncomfortable, and it was said by

[0:18:16] Voice 15: one of the trustees and as someone in their private capacity expressing that it is absolutely

[0:18:24] Voice 15: appropriate to say but when it was said using the podium of trustee using the megaphone of a trustee

[0:18:33] Voice 15: i would submit that it was highly inappropriate and should not have been should not have been said

[0:18:41] Voice 15: And that really what I would hope would be coming from this organization, from this podium, is common decency, and that that's something we should have every right to expect from the people who are elected to represent all of us.

[0:19:02] Voice 15: Mr. Harris.

[0:19:03] Trustee Maude (probable): So, thank you for that.

[0:19:06] Trustee Maude (probable): But again, it's really between you and Mr. Harris.

[0:19:14] Trustee Maude (probable): It's not an LTC issue as a whole.

[0:19:17] Trustee Maude (probable): We

[0:19:17] Voice 9: have a competition on that.

[0:19:20] Voice 15: Had that not

[0:19:21] Voice 15: been expressed from a trustee as a trustee, you're absolutely right.

[0:19:30] Voice 15: But since it was expressed and reported as being said in the capacity of the trustee,

[0:19:39] Voice 15: that is the point that I'm being interested in.

[0:19:41] Voice 15: Thank

[0:19:42] Trustee Maude (probable): you very much.

[0:19:42] Voice 15: Thank you.

[0:19:43] Trustee Maude (probable): All right.

[0:19:45] Trustee Maude (probable): Anybody else?

[0:19:47] Trustee Maude (probable): Can

[0:19:47] Voice 14: you hear me okay?

[0:19:49] Voice 14: Yes, thank you.

[0:19:49] Trustee Maude (probable): Can the

[0:19:49] Voice 14: secretary hear me?

[0:19:51] Trustee Maude (probable): Yes, because you're literally right next to the microphone.

[0:19:53] Trustee Maude (probable): So

[0:19:54] Voice 14: I'm here today on behalf of Positively Forward.

[0:19:57] Voice 14: This is a group that's been active in local government since 1917.

[0:20:04] Voice 14: And we have a petition that we've been circulating about the OCP LUB process.

[0:20:12] Voice 14: And I'm here today to present it to you, which I've put up before you and let you know there

[0:20:18] Voice 14: are now 1,440 signatures on the petition.

[0:20:23] Voice 14: And the petition asked for the growth protections in our current OCP to be preserved and for our petition to be sent to the consultant that's gathering public input on the OCP review.

[0:20:43] Voice 14: review, and that there should be a place on the web on our island's website for comments that

[0:20:51] Voice 14: people, the petition and comments people are sending in about the OCP review. And I just want

[0:20:58] Voice 14: to briefly read three short points that are in the petition. We want to keep the current OCP

[0:21:05] Voice 14: policies that limit zoning changes exactly as they stand, zoning changes that increase allowable

[0:21:13] Voice 14: density on private must apply only to affordable housing. We support non-market housing initiatives

[0:21:21] Voice 14: that respect existing growth limits and are legally required to provide long-term rentals

[0:21:28] Voice 14: at affordable rates. And third, we would like to hold a full community discussion

[0:21:38] Voice 14: of growth and sustainability within the mandate of the Islands Trust Act before making any changes

[0:21:46] Voice 14: to our OCP and land use bylaw. And I'd also like to say that I don't understand why we are being

[0:21:58] Voice 14: excluded so far from presenting our views on the OCPOB view, there has not been a process

[0:22:08] Voice 14: I've seen yet for community organizations such as ours that's been in existence for

[0:22:14] Voice 14: many years to present their views on this.

[0:22:18] Voice 14: And it's like if you were going to consider rezoning in Ganges, but you didn't consult

[0:22:24] Voice 14: with the chain, or you were going to have a new reserve on the island, but you didn't consult

[0:22:34] Voice 14: conservancy. Our group's been around a long time. And I think, you know, we should have an opportunity

[0:22:41] Voice 14: to be consulted with. I have something else to say on behalf of myself, not the organization.

[0:22:49] Voice 14: Could I have another few minutes?

[0:22:51] Trustee Patrick (probable): Certainly. Can I ask a question regarding, you,

[0:22:55] Trustee Patrick (probable): Your document here says that we're currently considering proposed major changes to the OCP.

[0:23:03] Trustee Patrick (probable): I'm not aware of any changes to the OCP being considered at this time.

[0:23:09] Trustee Patrick (probable): So I'm curious as to what you are calling proposed major changes.

[0:23:13] Trustee Patrick (probable): I

[0:23:14] Voice 14: think you're referring to your thinking of this as that the major changes are actually written and we are considering them.

[0:23:21] Trustee Patrick (probable): That's what it

[0:23:22] Trustee Patrick (probable): says in your document.

[0:23:23] Trustee Patrick (probable): What

[0:23:23] Voice 14: we mean is that you're considering making changes. That's what the whole OCP LUB project is about. It's about possibly making changes to the OCP and LUB. So that's what's intended. I'm sorry, that's not clear.

[0:23:37] Voice 14: Well, yes,

[0:23:38] Trustee Patrick (probable): but you're saying we're considering major changes that are unnecessary and unsustainable, and there are no changes being considered.

[0:23:46] Trustee Patrick (probable): Okay, I've explained what that means.

[0:23:48] Trustee Patrick (probable): Okay. Well, I'm just trying to be clear that people that are signing your petition could misunderstand the statement. That's all. Because it sounds like we are doing something that's unnecessary and unsustainable when there's...

[0:24:01] Voice 14: I understand.

[0:24:02] Voice 14: No.

[0:24:03] Voice 14: I understand what you mean. Sorry.

[0:24:05] Trustee Patrick (probable): Okay. So I'm just trying to clarify who's signing the petition.

[0:24:09] Trustee Patrick (probable): Just a guess.

[0:24:10] Voice 9: Given what Trustee Patrick has said there, even though I understand it all too well, it's hard for me to give any credibility to your organization.

[0:24:20] Voice 14: So the other thing I wanted to say is, I'm on the OCP Advisory Committee, and I'm not speaking for them. I just want to share with you what happened at the last meeting, because this is your committee, and I know you couldn't be there.

[0:24:37] Voice 14: Usually, I think you are at these things, but you won't be there.

[0:24:43] Voice 14: So at the first meeting of the committee, we asked to see the survey before it was circulating.

[0:24:52] Voice 14: The survey was circulating without our seeing it.

[0:24:57] Voice 14: And I can tell you, every single person that was at that meeting was very unhappy about

[0:25:04] Voice 14: about the fact that the survey was distributed

[0:25:07] Voice 14: without our seeing and what,

[0:25:09] Voice 14: and every person there expressed concerns about the survey.

[0:25:16] Voice 14: So I just want you to know that I,

[0:25:20] Voice 14: I know this is your committee that was set up to advise you

[0:25:25] Voice 14: and you might want to consider talking to some people

[0:25:28] Voice 14: on the committee about how this committee

[0:25:31] Voice 14: is being utilized.

[0:25:32] Voice 14: honest thank

[0:25:34] Trustee Maude (probable): you very much mr

[0:25:37] Voice 11: chair because uh we'll be talking with the abc minutes later today

[0:25:40] Voice 11: uh and the revolutions coming out of that uh of that meeting so um just to just clarify um

[0:25:48] Voice 11: okay thank

[0:25:50] Trustee Maude (probable): you very much okay anybody else wish

[0:25:52] Trustee Maude (probable): to speak hi

[0:25:54] Voice 18: my name is jillian davies and

[0:25:56] Voice 18: And in June, I received a letter from the bi-law enforcement officers requesting information about my B&B.

[0:26:06] Voice 18: And I had an Airbnb that, well, first they came here to be the agent of the priest, which I was for five years.

[0:26:12] Voice 18: And then the job ended, so I'm like retired, turned 75 in June.

[0:26:18] Voice 18: And this Airbnb is my primary income.

[0:26:22] Voice 18: come it's how i survived financially and they want to close it down by officers want me to close it

[0:26:31] Voice 18: down and so i'm asking for assistance with that i love doing the b&b i feel like i am a surgeon

[0:26:38] Voice 18: for the island because when people come it's my pleasure to tell them about hiking trails

[0:26:44] Voice 18: restaurants and where to find virtual craft artists and supporting all the businesses on the

[0:26:51] Voice 18: behind me and it's fun and interesting and I love doing this for people and I love salt

[0:26:58] Voice 18: spraying so I feel like I'm contributing in a really good way to salt spraying in my B&B.

[0:27:05] Voice 18: So I'm asking for help with that I guess, I don't know how else to put it.

[0:27:11] Voice 18: Okay,

[0:27:12] Trustee Maude (probable): so I would suggest, perhaps after the strike, having conversations with

[0:27:21] Trustee Maude (probable): bio-enforcement staff, or you're looking at the local planning staff, and get some assistance.

[0:27:28] Trustee Patrick (probable): We were expecting some information later, but I think that's been delayed,

[0:27:33] Trustee Patrick (probable): we're not having, and there was an in-camera meeting, but it's not happening today, so.

[0:27:37] Trustee Patrick (probable): I

[0:27:37] Voice 11: can't hear you.

[0:27:38] Voice 11: Sorry.

[0:27:40] Voice 11: I will say just on the topic of information, Islands Trust has been working with the CRD

[0:27:46] Voice 11: and the Chamber of Commerce on getting a bit more information out about the lay of the

[0:27:55] Voice 11: land, essentially, as it relates to STRs on the island.

[0:27:59] Voice 11: So it's a process that is ongoing, but we do hope to have more information out and available

[0:28:05] Voice 11: for you to clarify those.

[0:28:06] Voice 11: what rules exist and what we can and can't do and where that applies but if you do want to

[0:28:11] Voice 11: reach out to staff if anybody wants to reach out to staff on strs i'm not filling all all inquiries

[0:28:17] Voice 11: right now but uh we can we can certainly respond uh the sooner inquiries come in the sooner that

[0:28:23] Voice 11: we respond okay

[0:28:24] Trustee Maude (probable): thank you christy harris um

[0:28:26] Voice 9: yeah unfortunately um you know in regards to the

[0:28:29] Voice 9: process myself and many members of the community do not trust the process i'm hoping we'll still

[0:28:35] Voice 9: have the camera session today uh to speak about certain items

[0:28:43] Trustee Maude (probable): so anybody else wish to press us okay that seems okay thank you very much all right so

[0:28:52] Trustee Maude (probable): we will move on um we have trustee reports who wishes to be the first trustee to report

[0:29:00] Voice 9: it sure i'll keep it really short i honestly don't have a lot to report um other than we have a draft

[0:29:08] Voice 9: policy statement that has heard first reading for those of you who are not aware um it's imperative

[0:29:13] Voice 9: that the community you

[0:29:14] Voice 9: know take a look at it and really consider what the ramifications of

[0:29:19] Voice 9: the total development freeze in my opinion would be for this community and please spread the word

[0:29:27] Voice 9: and do whatever you can to let your opposition be known

[0:29:31] Voice 9: to this organization as soon as possible.

[0:29:35] Voice 9: Thank you.

[0:29:36] Voice 9: We'll leave it at that.

[0:29:37] Voice 9: Thank you, Tracey.

[0:29:38] Voice 9: Tracey Patrick.

[0:29:40] Trustee Patrick (probable): I just wanted to open with, I do know there are some articles out there

[0:29:45] Trustee Patrick (probable): regarding decisions that were made on the Hospital Foundation

[0:29:49] Trustee Patrick (probable): housing project.

[0:29:50] Trustee Patrick (probable): What's the name of it now?

[0:29:51] Trustee Patrick (probable): Heartland?

[0:29:52] Trustee Patrick (probable): I can't learn the new name.

[0:29:54] Trustee Patrick (probable): We all know it as Seabreeze Hotel.

[0:29:58] Trustee Patrick (probable): And it indicated that, you know, staff.

[0:30:00] Trustee Patrick (probable): made decisions or we had to override staff decisions and I want to say staff's job is to

[0:30:05] Trustee Patrick (probable): provide staff reports to our decision making it's the elected that make decisions so staff did their

[0:30:11] Trustee Patrick (probable): job there they make their staff reports and it isn't staff trying to stop a project that's how

[0:30:18] Trustee Patrick (probable): the process works they provide us information we make decisions we made decisions to proceed with

[0:30:23] Trustee Patrick (probable): the project and so I'm just trying it's not fair to criticize staff for doing their job that's all

[0:30:30] Trustee Patrick (probable): I want to say it was an honor to speak at the Pride Parade, and I encouraged everyone in the audience to feel that they could run for any office on this island because their voice matters.

[0:30:44] Trustee Patrick (probable): The executive committee, through the executive committee, we met with the Minister of Housing and Municipal Affairs, Christine Boyles, back in September to discuss all the strategic actions of the Trust Council.

[0:30:57] Trustee Patrick (probable): I met with LCC Chair Rook to review our respective organizations' activities.

[0:31:04] Trustee Patrick (probable): I chaired two executive committee meetings.

[0:31:08] Trustee Patrick (probable): I also chaired Trust Council that was on Gabriola this year.

[0:31:12] Trustee Patrick (probable): And as part of the Trust Council meeting, we visited Gabriola's center.

[0:31:17] Trustee Patrick (probable): It's their recycling center.

[0:31:18] Trustee Patrick (probable): It's called Gyro.

[0:31:19] Trustee Patrick (probable): It is amazing. If any of you ever get to Gabriola and see their recycling center, it's something that, boy, I wish we had it on Salt Spring. It is amazing. It has a store. It has a maker's space.

[0:31:35] Trustee Patrick (probable): it is volunteers come and help you sort through the stuff you bring they separate fabric they

[0:31:42] Trustee Patrick (probable): they really are amazing as to how much they do on that island with knocking down um you know

[0:31:51] Trustee Patrick (probable): garbage basically and taking it out of the out of the uh system um i attended the bowen island uh

[0:31:59] Trustee Patrick (probable): hosted a meeting i think david you were there as well for uh ferry dependent communities and

[0:32:04] Trustee Patrick (probable): advance of UBCM, which resulted in a letter being hand-delivered to the CEO of BC Ferries.

[0:32:11] Trustee Patrick (probable): It was amazing. The stories on every island up and down the coast are experiencing exactly the

[0:32:18] Trustee Patrick (probable): same things that we're experiencing. Big lineups for ferries, roads being plugged,

[0:32:23] Trustee Patrick (probable): various schedules all over the map, not staying on time. It was a room full of people with the same

[0:32:32] Trustee Patrick (probable): issues and not that things are going to change but I'm very appreciative of the mayor of Bowen

[0:32:38] Trustee Patrick (probable): Island is not going to back down and is going to keep taking this issue on for some change to

[0:32:45] Trustee Patrick (probable): hopefully the contract between the province and BC Ferries so that community issues have a higher

[0:32:51] Trustee Patrick (probable): prominence in the BC Ferries decision making. Attended two ceremonies for the raising of the

[0:32:58] Trustee Patrick (probable): the survivor's flag at the government house

[0:33:04] Trustee Patrick (probable): and the legislature.

[0:33:06] Trustee Patrick (probable): It was very emotional and amazing.

[0:33:11] Trustee Patrick (probable): And many elders spoke of the impacts of residential schools.

[0:33:16] Trustee Patrick (probable): Did attend UBCM, the Union of BC Municipalities.

[0:33:20] Trustee Patrick (probable): It is an incredibly busy week.

[0:33:24] Trustee Patrick (probable): We did have two meetings.

[0:33:25] Trustee Patrick (probable): We met with the housing and municipal affairs staff to talk about rural housing challenges.

[0:33:32] Trustee Patrick (probable): And we met with Minister Randine Neal, Minister of Water, Lands, Resource Stewardship,

[0:33:40] Trustee Patrick (probable): to talk about the crown lease referrals in particular, that the process needs to be improved with the Islands Trust and our ministry.

[0:33:52] Trustee Patrick (probable): I was humbled to attend the

[0:33:56] Trustee Patrick (probable): Penelakut First Nation gathering at Fernwood Dock on National Day of Truth

[0:34:00] Trustee Patrick (probable): and Reconciliation. It was great to see a huge crowd of islanders out there

[0:34:04] Trustee Patrick (probable): standing side by side and listening to the elders share their

[0:34:08] Trustee Patrick (probable): gruesome stories about the residential schools,

[0:34:13] Trustee Patrick (probable): particularly the one that was on Penelakut Island, then known as

[0:34:16] Trustee Patrick (probable): Cooper Island. I attended the House Sound Forum at Bowen Island and

[0:34:21] Trustee Patrick (probable): and spoke about the trust policy statement update.

[0:34:24] Trustee Patrick (probable): And I attended several cross-border working group meetings.

[0:34:28] Trustee Patrick (probable): Tomorrow is going to be a cross-border forum.

[0:34:30] Trustee Patrick (probable): That's with all the elected from San Juan Islands,

[0:34:34] Trustee Patrick (probable): as well as the Southern Gulf Islands

[0:34:36] Trustee Patrick (probable): are gonna be meeting in Sydney

[0:34:37] Trustee Patrick (probable): to really reinforce our relationship

[0:34:42] Trustee Patrick (probable): that's over a hundred years of environmental protection

[0:34:45] Trustee Patrick (probable): and working together.

[0:34:46] Trustee Patrick (probable): The water does not stop flowing across the boundary

[0:34:49] Trustee Patrick (probable): and we're all dedicated to the health and well-being

[0:34:53] Trustee Patrick (probable): of these islands together as an ecosystem.

[0:34:58] Trustee Patrick (probable): And I really want to thank Minister Boyle

[0:35:01] Trustee Patrick (probable): for coming to Salt Spring yesterday.

[0:35:03] Trustee Patrick (probable): I really believe she has a much better understanding

[0:35:06] Trustee Patrick (probable): of the housing challenges on the island.

[0:35:09] Trustee Patrick (probable): I know she hears about housing challenges

[0:35:11] Trustee Patrick (probable): in every community in BC,

[0:35:13] Trustee Patrick (probable): but ours are sure unique and very present.

[0:35:17] Trustee Patrick (probable): And I think, you know, she has taken a keen interest and wants to work with us on finding sustainable solutions.

[0:35:28] Trustee Patrick (probable): And that's my report.

[0:35:30] Trustee Maude (probable): Thank you, Dr. Patrick.

[0:35:32] Trustee Maude (probable): Always awkward to be the last person because you guys always infill all the stuff that I want to talk about.

[0:35:38] Trustee Maude (probable): However, yes, from an Island Trust perspective, we just got out of a Trust Council meeting

[0:35:47] Trustee Maude (probable): at Gabriel Island, a very successful meeting.

[0:35:53] Trustee Maude (probable): I think the only issue we had was a little bit of internet connectivity, which caused

[0:35:59] Trustee Maude (probable): a lot of stress for staff, but we did manage to get through it, and that was great.

[0:36:03] Trustee Maude (probable): Our Trust Policy Statement is, of course, out.

[0:36:06] Trustee Maude (probable): we've done first reading on it and it's now out for public consultation.

[0:36:10] Trustee Maude (probable): I'm assuming that your library has got hard copies of the survey that we have out.

[0:36:16] Trustee Maude (probable): They should be at the library, they should be there with a self-addressed stamped envelope,

[0:36:21] Trustee Maude (probable): so those who are not technically proficient there's an ability to do it the old-fashioned way

[0:36:27] Trustee Maude (probable): and certainly online it's all there. I think if you want to spend a week of your time

[0:36:36] Trustee Maude (probable): You can go through all the links. There's a lot of the staff have made sure every piece of paper is available for viewing.

[0:36:43] Trustee Maude (probable): So you can see the history. You can see the various versions and the one that's out there.

[0:36:48] Trustee Maude (probable): And we really value the input because come February, we're going to have a new draft out there and that draft is going to be informed by your commentary.

[0:36:57] Trustee Maude (probable): So that's somewhat important. I think I'll finish up.

[0:37:00] Trustee Maude (probable): The Island's Past has got Stewardship Education Series webinars.

[0:37:09] Trustee Maude (probable): There's basically one a month.

[0:37:12] Trustee Maude (probable): November is Species at Risk, December is Protecting the Shoreline, February 4th is Climate Adaptation,

[0:37:20] Trustee Maude (probable): and my favorite one, March the 4th, is Working Towards a Foul Deer Strategy.

[0:37:27] Trustee Maude (probable): I'm of course from Maine Island and we have lots of them.

[0:37:29] Trustee Maude (probable): unfortunately they're spreading to other islands so very important webinars so

[0:37:33] Trustee Maude (probable): would encourage you to attend those you can go online and register for those so

[0:37:38] Trustee Maude (probable): you get the updates and the links for that and I think you know you know so

[0:37:43] Trustee Maude (probable): far they've been so good they're very informative I think you'll enjoy them so

[0:37:47] Trustee Maude (probable): I'll leave it at that thank you I know the charity director is not here so we

[0:37:53] Trustee Maude (probable): will move on to minutes so we have a few to be done here so we have draft minutes

[0:37:58] Trustee Maude (probable): of the Salt Spring Isle Local Trust Committee

[0:38:00] Trustee Maude (probable): in the minutes for September the 11th for adaptation.

[0:38:06] Trustee Maude (probable): Anybody got any comments?

[0:38:08] Trustee Maude (probable): Trustee Patrick.

[0:38:10] Trustee Patrick (probable): On page 13, just at the end of section 14.5,

[0:38:15] Trustee Patrick (probable): said a trustee noted that any future expansion activity

[0:38:19] Trustee Patrick (probable): may not be supported by the community at this location

[0:38:22] Trustee Patrick (probable): due to the property size and parking needs.

[0:38:24] Trustee Patrick (probable): That was not my question.

[0:38:26] Trustee Patrick (probable): my question was was directed to staff was there concerns that the parking that they were reaching

[0:38:35] Trustee Patrick (probable): some limit to their parking and the answer there was no so I just think that wording of that

[0:38:43] Trustee Patrick (probable): sentence needs to be because it sounds like it wasn't about supported by the community it was

[0:38:49] Trustee Patrick (probable): supported by the staff where they getting concerned that parking was reaching a maximum amount for the

[0:38:56] Trustee Patrick (probable): for this uh address

[0:38:58] Trustee Maude (probable): so it's changing the from community to staff does that address what what

[0:39:03] Trustee Maude (probable): would you like the recording secretary to adjust i

[0:39:06] Trustee Patrick (probable): don't know maybe we could i could work with chris

[0:39:08] Trustee Patrick (probable): afterwards if i just identify that sentences just not

[0:39:11] Voice 11: not so much my staff but we're concerned that

[0:39:14] Voice 11: we're we're getting correct coverage and the available yes regulated parking by zoning or

[0:39:19] Voice 11: yeah yeah but we can we can clarify that that's just may not be permitted by zoning

[0:39:25] Voice 11: Correct.

[0:39:25] Trustee Patrick (probable): That was my question, was were we getting to a maximum level, not

[0:39:28] Trustee Patrick (probable): did the community want it?

[0:39:32] Trustee Maude (probable): Was there anything else?

[0:39:38] Voice 9: So

[0:39:38] Trustee Maude (probable): by general consent, we can adopt those minutes?

[0:39:41] Trustee Maude (probable): All right. So we have draft

[0:39:45] Trustee Maude (probable): minutes of the Advisory Planning Commission. We have draft minutes

[0:39:49] Trustee Maude (probable): of September 18th. Anything

[0:39:55] Trustee Maude (probable): other than those this

[0:39:56] Trustee Patrick (probable): is this minutes that uh um these are the minutes regarding the project

[0:40:04] Trustee Patrick (probable): advisory committee not yeah sorry page

[0:40:08] Trustee Patrick (probable): yes page 22 sorry just trying to get to it just capturing

[0:40:11] Voice 11: that note um yes there was a couple of uh resolutions here one was repeated so we don't

[0:40:39] Voice 11: to go into that one um

[0:40:41] Voice 23: please speak up

[0:40:43] Voice 10: oh sorry um so just there was one um one resolution was

[0:40:47] Voice 10: defeated so we don't need to go into that one um

[0:40:50] Voice 11: the invited planning commission also

[0:40:53] Voice 11: um adopted the minutes uh they amended them first um indicating um that addressing the technical

[0:41:01] Voice 11: issue the current ocp is not identified in the plan perceptive um but this removed they just

[0:41:10] Voice 11: removed one portion of the august minutes um just going into the rest of this it's the one on page

[0:41:18] Voice 11: 25 i think you're yeah 23 number 25 was um so this was the the resolution that i do think lpc

[0:41:26] Voice 11: uh it's a direction or a question to lpc um so it was moving the second

[0:41:31] Voice 11: uh

[0:41:32] Voice 29: recommended

[0:41:34] Voice 11: the local trust committee direct staff and consultants to produce a new survey

[0:41:40] Voice 11: and subject to vetting by Commission members before it is distributed.

[0:41:44] Voice 11: Discussion on the motion was held and the following comments were made.

[0:41:48] Voice 11: Hesitation was expressed for including the phrase before it is distributed in the motion.

[0:41:52] Voice 11: If it is not feasible to redo the survey, the overall engagement is discredited.

[0:41:57] Voice 11: A potential consequence of compromising the current survey could be significant expansion of the budget or cancellation of the project.

[0:42:05] Voice 11: The request to the Local Trust Committee for additional funds could be trimmed down.

[0:42:10] Voice 11: um and the uh the survey is already compromised and that implies the survey uh why a new survey

[0:42:17] Voice 11: is necessary uh it is the job of the advisor prior permission to provide meaningful input

[0:42:20] Voice 11: to entrust you uh and trustees do not have to follow future recommendations those are just

[0:42:25] Voice 11: the points that were discussed in the context but um overall there was uh you know as noted

[0:42:32] Voice 11: uh we we have really been needing to get this this engagement out um it has been um it hasn't been

[0:42:41] Voice 11: finally clarify within our project terms whether or not the APC ought to be reviewing surveys

[0:42:48] Voice 11: prior to their going out or certainly a question of whether or not LPC would need to get

[0:42:58] Voice 11: would be seeking a positive recommendation on all engagement materials from the APC

[0:43:05] Voice 11: staff have maintained as the consulting firm that the cost of both in terms of time and funding

[0:43:12] Voice 11: would certainly expand the existing project timeline so that's pretty much what I can

[0:43:20] Voice 11: what I can say at this point I remain a little bit unclear on the reasons for the discrediting

[0:43:27] of

[0:43:28] Voice 11: the like the idea that it's discredited somehow we are at a very of the just sort of

[0:43:34] Voice 11: reflecting on that portion right now and considering what needs to change at that very

[0:43:38] Voice 11: high level element of the OCP. So it's important work, but we are, again, at the very beginning.

[0:43:43] Voice 11: So the project consultants indicated that they do sort of recognize they're coming from

[0:43:50] Voice 11: off island and are willing to adapt to the needs of the community to get wholesome engagement.

[0:43:57] Voice 11: but so um but in terms of a repeat i'm not too sure how to how to address that so um just for

[0:44:05] Voice 11: ltc's awareness we're at october 16th so about eight days from um closing this application i

[0:44:12] Voice 11: don't have the current numbers on the survey itself but i can say that we've received

[0:44:16] Voice 11: a fair bit of email correspondence um at this stage of the project so um those are that's kind

[0:44:23] Voice 11: of the point. I'm certainly happy to answer any other question that obviously we have.

[0:44:27] Voice 11: Trustee Patrick?

[0:44:28] Trustee Patrick (probable): While I'd like to discuss this more, I do note it's 1030,

[0:44:31] Trustee Patrick (probable): and I believe that the public hearing was advertised to begin at 1030.

[0:44:35] Trustee Patrick (probable): Was it not? It says yes. Thank you.

[0:44:39] Trustee Patrick (probable): So my suggestion would be that we

[0:44:43] Trustee Patrick (probable): table this discussion and proceed with the public hearing and pick up the agenda

[0:44:47] Trustee Patrick (probable): later, because people have made it here on time.

[0:44:51] Trustee Maude (probable): all right fair enough if that's okay with you okay so let us proceed

[0:45:16] Voice 20: yeah so

[0:45:17] Trustee Maude (probable): you haven't talked about it i have no reason to

[0:45:20] Trustee Maude (probable): give me anything so i'm kind of leaning

[0:45:22] Trustee Maude (probable): on you sir let's see here

[0:45:23] Voice 11: um i think we're all stretching i suggest that we just reset for five

[0:45:27] Voice 11: minutes okay

[0:45:28] Trustee Maude (probable): we're late on everything today so if it's okay we're just going to take a five minute

[0:45:32] Trustee Maude (probable): recess, what we kind of get our ducks in a row.

[0:45:38] Voice 9: Thank you.

[0:45:41] Voice 20: You can

[0:45:42] Voice 29: get it.

[0:45:49] Voice 29: Yeah.

[0:52:40] Trustee Maude (probable): Please.

[0:52:44] Trustee Maude (probable): All right. Thank you. The public hearing for this post

[0:52:52] Trustee Maude (probable): file is number 544 and 545 is now open. I wish to welcome everybody to the attendance to acknowledge

[0:52:58] Trustee Maude (probable): we are meeting in the territory of the Coast Salish First Nations. My name is Trustee David

[0:53:05] Trustee Maude (probable): Maud. I am the chair today of the Salisbury Island Local Trust Committee. I'd like to introduce

[0:53:10] Trustee Maude (probable): Salisbury Island Local Trust Committee Trustees Laura Patrick and Jeannie Harris. I'd like to

[0:53:16] Trustee Maude (probable): to introduce Island Trust planning staff,

[0:53:19] Trustee Maude (probable): Chris Hutton, regional planning manager.

[0:53:22] Trustee Maude (probable): I don't think there's any other staff attending,

[0:53:24] Trustee Maude (probable): unfortunately.

[0:53:24] Trustee Maude (probable): We do have Carly Bilney,

[0:53:26] Trustee Maude (probable): who is doing the recording secretary for the meeting.

[0:53:31] Trustee Maude (probable): So just move this around in the old-fashioned way,

[0:53:34] Trustee Maude (probable): not with the two-finger way.

[0:53:36] Trustee Maude (probable): So the public hearing is being convened pursuant

[0:53:39] Trustee Maude (probable): to section 465 of the Local Government Act

[0:53:41] Trustee Maude (probable): and in order to consider a proposed file as number 544,

[0:53:43] Trustee Maude (probable): 4, cited as Salisbury Island Equation Community Plan,

[0:53:46] Trustee Maude (probable): bylaw number 434-2008,

[0:53:49] Trustee Maude (probable): amendment number 1-2005,

[0:53:50] Trustee Maude (probable): and proposed bylaw number 545,

[0:53:52] Trustee Maude (probable): cited as Salisbury Island Land Use

[0:53:54] Trustee Maude (probable): bylaw 1999, amendment number 3-2025.

[0:53:57] Trustee Maude (probable): All persons who believe

[0:53:58] Trustee Maude (probable): that their interest in property

[0:54:00] Trustee Maude (probable): is affected

[0:54:03] Trustee Maude (probable): by the proposed bylaws

[0:54:05] Trustee Maude (probable): will be given a reasonable

[0:54:07] Trustee Maude (probable): opportunity to be heard

[0:54:08] Trustee Maude (probable): or to present written submissions

[0:54:10] Trustee Maude (probable): respecting matters contained within the proposed bylaws.

[0:54:13] Trustee Maude (probable): Those wishing to speak should commence their presentation clearly stating their name.

[0:54:18] Trustee Maude (probable): Members of the Local Trust Committee may, if they wish, ask questions to you following your presentation.

[0:54:22] Trustee Maude (probable): However, the main function of the Local Trust Committee members is to listen to the views of the public.

[0:54:27] Trustee Maude (probable): It is not the function of the Committee members to debate the merits of the proposed bylaws with individual citizens.

[0:54:33] Trustee Maude (probable): Everybody will be given a reasonable opportunity to be heard, and none should feel discouraged from presenting their views.

[0:54:39] Trustee Maude (probable): And considering the proposed bylaws, the Local Trust Committee has received documents which

[0:54:44] Trustee Maude (probable): may influence this decision.

[0:54:46] Trustee Maude (probable): Those documents are available for review during these hearings as available on our website

[0:54:52] Trustee Maude (probable): and indicated in the public hearing notice.

[0:54:55] Trustee Maude (probable): Any person who wishes to present a written submission to the Local Trust Committee may

[0:54:59] Trustee Maude (probable): do so and all written submissions are available for review during this hearing.

[0:55:03] Trustee Maude (probable): Written submissions must be received by the Local Trust Committee before the close of

[0:55:07] Trustee Maude (probable): the hearing.

[0:55:07] Trustee Maude (probable): Your final opportunity to comment on the proposed bylaws during this hearing, as members of

[0:55:13] Trustee Maude (probable): the Local Trust Committee may not receive further submissions nor discuss the proposed

[0:55:18] Trustee Maude (probable): bylaw with the public after the close of the hearing.

[0:55:21] Trustee Maude (probable): After this public hearing is concluded, the Local Trust Committee may, without further

[0:55:24] Trustee Maude (probable): notice, make a decision that deems proper with respect to the bylaws that are subject

[0:55:29] Trustee Maude (probable): to the hearing.

[0:55:31] Trustee Maude (probable): Hon.

[0:55:31] Trustee Maude (probable): Hutton, I assume, will now summarize the public hearing notice, key points of the bylaw,

[0:55:37] Trustee Maude (probable): and referral agency responses uh

[0:55:41] Voice 11: thank you mr chair um the um the notice for this public hearing

[0:55:46] Voice 11: was published in the newspaper uh through a statutory notice on october 1st and october 8th

[0:55:53] Voice 11: uh indicating the time and place where uh these bylaws would be considered uh today here we are

[0:55:59] Voice 11: um the the application or the notification also indicates that um the there was to be a community

[0:56:06] Voice 11: any information we acknowledge that that meeting did not take place due to ongoing action we've

[0:56:11] Voice 11: had some mix-ups in the scheduling so we're still adapting as we go but apologies on that so

[0:56:20] Voice 11: clarify the referral this application was referred out to a number of provincial agencies

[0:56:28] Voice 11: agencies and First Nations. Generally, the feedback was there was not a substantial amount

[0:56:37] Voice 11: of referral comments received back, but the ones that were fairly benign. By and large,

[0:56:46] Voice 11: the main feedback that we got was from First Nations, indicating from First Nations who

[0:56:51] Voice 11: do not identify salt treatment or this property as being in their core territory, and so deferring

[0:56:56] Voice 11: to other nations and then reserving the right difficult pretty standard therefore that situation

[0:57:04] Voice 11: so all in all the referral comments have been generally positive okay

[0:57:12] Voice 29: thank you so

[0:57:15] Trustee Maude (probable): some submissions can be made anytime during our during and until the close of the hearing if any

[0:57:22] Trustee Maude (probable): submissions are received during the meeting the local trust committee will pause prior to closing

[0:57:26] Trustee Maude (probable): to ensure that we have time to review these submissions. I will begin with the speaker's list,

[0:57:32] Trustee Maude (probable): which I don't think we have, so we'll just do it by show of hands,

[0:57:35] Trustee Maude (probable): after which I'll invite members of the public who wish to speak to line up.

[0:57:41] Trustee Maude (probable): Please state your name prior to making comments. After your presentation to the local trust

[0:57:47] Trustee Maude (probable): committee, the trustees may ask you questions, but they're primarily here to listen and will

[0:57:51] Trustee Maude (probable): not debate the issues with you. I will call three times for speakers before the closing of the

[0:57:55] Trustee Maude (probable): hearing at which point no further written or oral submissions can be made um all right so

[0:58:04] Trustee Maude (probable): i'm what do you show the hands or people lining up what's what is the standard practice on this

[0:58:09] Trustee Maude (probable): island not

[0:58:10] Trustee Patrick (probable): a public hearing in a long time um i think it's because it's a public hearing the

[0:58:15] Trustee Patrick (probable): record's important so i think it's proximity to the microphone would be important okay so what

[0:58:20] Trustee Maude (probable): we'd like to do is if you want to speak if you'd like to start a lineup going sort of behind the

[0:58:25] Trustee Maude (probable): camera there and we will we will go through the line in the appropriate manner thank you

[0:58:30] Trustee Maude (probable): so if you just wish to speak your name and you are welcome to be our person speaking

[0:58:36] Voice 19: okay hi i'm

[0:58:38] Voice 19: emily williams i'm speaking to 13.1 on the agenda today the application for 248 upper ganges road by

[0:58:45] Voice 19: nick williams as you can probably guess he is my husband so my opinion is biased but i still wanted

[0:58:53] Voice 19: to say something. So thank you guys for listening today and for taking everyone's notes. I think

[0:59:01] Voice 19: that you should approve this application, of course. Obviously, I have biased opinions from

[0:59:06] Voice 19: a personal perspective. This business supports our family. Nick has been born and raised on the

[0:59:13] Voice 19: island and has been in business for over 20 years. But practically speaking, we are an island

[0:59:18] Voice 19: surrounded by water. So I think that having a marine sales and service business on the island

[0:59:23] Voice 19: makes sense. If the rezoning application was not pushed forward, that might jeopardize

[0:59:29] Voice 19: the ability for the business to continue operating. So in regards to that, I basically

[0:59:37] Voice 19: plead our case. And I had something else to say, but I'm nervous. So no, I'm forgetting what it was.

[0:59:45] Voice 19: Anyways, in regards to the actual application and the issues that have been brought up by the

[0:59:53] Voice 19: the trustees in the past, over the past sort of 10 years of this process.

[0:59:56] Voice 19: I do think that Nick has done his due diligence.

[1:00:00] Voice 19: hand-in-hand with staff and trustees to address all of the concerns, including the water system,

[1:00:07] Voice 19: et cetera. So yeah, that's what I have to say today. And thank you so much for hearing us out.

[1:00:14] Trustee Maude (probable): Thank you very much. Okay. Okay, go ahead. Well, we have one behind you, so we'll just

[1:00:19] Trustee Maude (probable): go ahead, sir.

[1:00:20] Voice 22: Hi, good morning, everybody. Yeah, I'm here in support for-

[1:00:24] Voice 22: Can

[1:00:25] Trustee Maude (probable): you speak your name, please?

[1:00:26] Voice 22: Yeah, sorry. Yeah. Gordon Ross,

[1:00:27] Voice 22: I've also been a resident and a homeowner on Salisbury for 25 years, and I'm here to support for Mid-Isle, New England, and anybody here on a lawnmower?

[1:00:41] Trustee Maude (probable): Just through us, please.

[1:00:43] Trustee Maude (probable): Sorry?

[1:00:44] Trustee Maude (probable): Just speak to us, please.

[1:00:46] Trustee Maude (probable): Yes.

[1:00:48] Voice 22: Speaking to the room.

[1:00:50] Voice 22: Yes.

[1:00:51] Voice 22: Yes.

[1:00:51] Voice 22: Okay.

[1:00:52] Voice 22: Okay, so if that's the case, and I'm sure everybody is on board with that,

[1:01:00] Voice 22: where else do you get service like that?

[1:01:04] Voice 22: And all these things are in need of repair from time to time.

[1:01:08] Voice 22: And if you expect us, you know, if they can't exist here,

[1:01:13] Voice 22: and like Salt Spring Coffee Company, they had to move off island for their business

[1:01:17] Voice 22: because they couldn't make a business here, then where do you go?

[1:01:21] Voice 22: do you go off island for your repairs for your purchases and well while you're over there you

[1:01:27] Voice 22: paid for the ferry so then you're going to be doing your shopping over there to utilize the

[1:01:32] Voice 22: trip so that just brings less business to our local community so i'm in support of them and

[1:01:40] Voice 22: so careful how you choose thank you very much you're welcome

[1:01:49] Voice 13: Good morning. My name is Andrew Clark, former small business operator here since 1986.

[1:01:56] Voice 13: I support this application for numerous reasons. As mentioned, we're a water community.

[1:02:03] Voice 13: Many of us boat. Many of us have small equipment that needs servicing from time to time and a place

[1:02:09] Voice 13: where we can buy that equipment. It's difficult to get commercial zoning on this island, as you know.

[1:02:16] Voice 13: It's very expensive, if any can be found, and there hasn't been a very cooperative attempt by the Trust to create any new zoning, industrial or commercial, for our business people.

[1:02:29] Voice 13: And how are we supposed to deal with that in the future going forward?

[1:02:33] Voice 13: Boats come up here by the thousands every year from the United States.

[1:02:38] Voice 13: Occasionally, they need help.

[1:02:39] Voice 13: Sometimes they call me.

[1:02:41] Voice 13: Usually, they call Nick and his staff.

[1:02:43] Voice 13: This is a critical part of the day-to-day operations of an island community,

[1:02:49] Voice 13: Salt Spring and others included.

[1:02:51] Voice 13: Some of the outer islands probably come to support Mid-Isle Marine too

[1:02:55] Voice 13: because it's the closest place to be, for good worth.

[1:03:00] Voice 13: I think it's important that the trust remembers that it's very difficult

[1:03:05] Voice 13: to operate a small business in a small community.

[1:03:08] Voice 13: The numbers aren't there.

[1:03:09] Voice 13: You have to be very careful or you go broke.

[1:03:14] Voice 13: and nick has provided a good service as mentioned for 20 odd years and he's well located in the spot

[1:03:21] Voice 13: he's in as far as i can see i would have bought the property across the street from him years ago

[1:03:27] Voice 13: except it didn't quite work out but had i i would still be standing here supporting this application

[1:03:33] Voice 13: there are areas on the island where perhaps a business like this would not be appropriate but

[1:03:38] Voice 13: but it's not such a residential area up there.

[1:03:41] Voice 13: It's large properties, there's good access,

[1:03:44] Voice 13: and it keeps the property looking neat and tidy.

[1:03:47] Voice 13: And I've heard no complaints about his business

[1:03:50] Voice 13: the whole time I've been here.

[1:03:51] Voice 13: So I support small business on Salt Spring Island,

[1:03:54] Voice 13: and I support the rezoning of this property

[1:03:56] Voice 13: for Mid-Island Marine as commercial.

[1:03:59] Voice 13: Thank you.

[1:03:59] Voice 13: Thank you.

[1:03:59] Voice 13: Sir, go ahead.

[1:04:04] Voice 29: Okay,

[1:04:05] Trustee Maude (probable): so please no applause, no...

[1:04:09] Trustee Maude (probable): Booing no, oh, thank you.

[1:04:11] Voice 6: Okay, you can hear me all right.

[1:04:13] Voice 6: Just

[1:04:13] Voice 11: before we proceed,

[1:04:16] Voice 11: you had mentioned it briefly earlier,

[1:04:18] Voice 11: the intention of a public hearing is to address LTC.

[1:04:21] Voice 11: So I would, you know, you mentioned it earlier,

[1:04:24] Voice 11: please do not speak to the crowd or engage the crowd.

[1:04:26] Voice 11: You're here to speak to your views individually.

[1:04:30] Voice 11: And these are the three people that are here

[1:04:32] Voice 11: to make this decision today.

[1:04:34] Voice 11: So you can direct your comments to them.

[1:04:36] Voice 11: that's a lot that would help for us to move this along.

[1:04:40] Voice 6: Okay. My name is Gil Bard. You can hear me all right.

[1:04:44] Voice 6: I've been here since 72. That's 53 years.

[1:04:48] Voice 6: For the last 20,

[1:04:50] Voice 6: Nick has been very helpful to me in my personal life and business life.

[1:04:56] Voice 6: And I agree with everything everybody says so far.

[1:05:00] Voice 6: Thanks very much.

[1:05:04] Voice 26: Hi, my name is Sylvia Andrus.

[1:05:05] Voice 26: and I'm in support of the passing of the motion

[1:05:13] Voice 26: of allowing them to continue to operate.

[1:05:17] Voice 26: I frequent the property.

[1:05:19] Voice 26: I use, not only does my husband use the business

[1:05:23] Voice 26: to season our boat, I also have my hair done there.

[1:05:28] Voice 26: So speaking to that, I have sat in that chair

[1:05:32] Voice 26: at two and a half, three hours at a time,

[1:05:35] Voice 26: probably once every nine to ten weeks I never hear the business running meaning that it's not

[1:05:47] Voice 26: encroaching on our time in a little shop that is not insulated around the building by any sound

[1:05:54] Voice 26: barriers easy access respectful to traffic the upgrades to that lot over the years has been

[1:06:05] Voice 26: been phenomenal dust abatement due to paving um respect to most of their neighbors i would say

[1:06:15] Voice 26: all their neighbors that i know i don't know all of their neighbors so i can only speak to most of

[1:06:20] Voice 26: the neighbors um i think the service they provide to salt spring for lower to middle class families

[1:06:30] Voice 26: Families who enjoy fishing that don't have the big boats is great, meaning great as in large, not as in Yahoo, even though it is.

[1:06:46] Voice 26: Because in our family, we cannot take the time to go off island, to bring our boat off island, to develop a trust relationship, meaning that we need to purchase a new outboard.

[1:07:00] Voice 26: we have a trust relationship with that shop they're going to steer us in the right direction

[1:07:04] Voice 26: looking at purchasing a new boat a trust relationship with that with that shop i mean

[1:07:10] Voice 26: the service to people who actually keep the island alive is is remarkable and to vote this down

[1:07:22] Voice 26: would be a great disservice to the people who have been here if not for their lifetime

[1:07:29] Voice 26: tongue myself over 30 years my husband growing up here and watching the change and many of these

[1:07:35] Voice 26: younger kids i see them as children because i remember them as children

[1:07:42] Voice 26: it can't that would be shameful and that is judgment sorry i shouldn't be judging that but

[1:07:49] Voice 26: it is thank you

[1:07:50] Voice 29: thank you hello

[1:07:58] Voice 7: my name is cameron proudfoot um i'm here on a couple

[1:08:02] Voice 7: with a couple different hats uh i'm in favor of the rezoning for mid-isle marine and for nick um

[1:08:10] Voice 7: i ran a tree business for a number of years and i think the services that nick provides to a lot

[1:08:16] Voice 7: of our landscapers and other small businesses are quite valuable to this community um i can speak

[1:08:22] Voice 7: to the fact that if when i had that business if i would have had to take stuff off island all the

[1:08:26] Voice 7: time it would have added a substantial expense to my operations might have made it not feasible or

[1:08:32] Voice 7: certainly would have made me have to increase um what i charge to the public um i now work as a

[1:08:40] Voice 7: firefighter on here on salt spring and i can say operationally we use nick services weekly so fans

[1:08:48] Voice 7: small equipment generators all the stuff we have goes through nick um and it's a lot of time he

[1:08:55] Voice 7: really accommodates getting it back in service for us so we can use it to service the public

[1:08:59] Voice 7: it as well um so i'd say in that respect uh we're very supportive of having that business available

[1:09:06] Voice 7: to us and we find great uh value and we would probably like we would like to facilitate the

[1:09:13] Voice 7: ability for him to keep doing what he's doing in that spot and to help him keep that business going

[1:09:21] Voice 7: thanks thank

[1:09:22] Trustee Maude (probable): you very much anybody else wish to speak okay

[1:09:31] Voice 28: I'm in favor of this

[1:09:32] Voice 28: application. Full disclosure.

[1:09:35] Voice 28: Just

[1:09:35] Trustee Maude (probable): your name, please.

[1:09:36] Voice 28: My name is Mahi Poole.

[1:09:37] Trustee Maude (probable): Full

[1:09:38] Voice 28: disclosure, I'm an

[1:09:40] Voice 28: expat mom.

[1:09:43] Voice 28: So, it wasn't

[1:09:44] Voice 28: said that he supports nine families

[1:09:46] Voice 28: on the island, which I think

[1:09:48] Voice 28: it's really important

[1:09:50] Voice 28: in these

[1:09:52] Voice 28: difficult times that SOSPING is

[1:09:54] Voice 28: going through.

[1:09:57] Voice 28: Nine families

[1:09:58] Voice 28: needs he employs and supports. Thank

[1:10:00] Voice 29: you. Thank you. My name

[1:10:08] Voice 4: is Philippe Erdmer. I've known Nick

[1:10:12] Voice 4: for 19 years. I'm here as a member of the community, but also as a member of the Salt

[1:10:21] Voice 4: Spring Island Sailing Club, which offers every summer learn-to-sail and sailing education programs

[1:10:29] Voice 4: to hundreds of Salt Spring children.

[1:10:32] Voice 4: There are some that come from off-island,

[1:10:34] Voice 4: there's some on holidays,

[1:10:35] Voice 4: but it's the only opportunity for Salt Spring children

[1:10:38] Voice 4: to be on the water.

[1:10:41] Voice 4: Because of Nick, we've been able to keep this program going

[1:10:44] Voice 4: on a very thin budget,

[1:10:47] Voice 4: thanks to his immediate availability,

[1:10:51] Voice 4: his dedication, and his knowledge

[1:10:54] Voice 4: to keep the program going.

[1:10:56] Voice 4: The kids learn how to sail,

[1:10:58] Voice 4: but they need a chase boat.

[1:11:00] Voice 4: Chase boat has a motor.

[1:11:01] Voice 4: We can have five chase boats.

[1:11:03] Voice 4: They're breaking down all the time.

[1:11:05] Voice 4: One chase boat goes down, the lesson stops for the day.

[1:11:08] Voice 4: And those kids are out of business.

[1:11:11] Voice 4: In the 19 years, I don't know the total,

[1:11:13] Voice 4: but it is hundreds of children who would be affected

[1:11:16] Voice 4: if on islands, immediate rescue was not available.

[1:11:20] Voice 4: Nobody else provides it, but Madame Maria.

[1:11:24] Voice 4: Thank you.

[1:11:25] Voice 4: Thank

[1:11:25] Trustee Maude (probable): you very much.

[1:11:28] Trustee Maude (probable): Does anybody else wish to speak?

[1:11:33] Voice 3: My name is Robert DeAngelis.

[1:11:34] Voice 3: I've been on this island for four years.

[1:11:38] Voice 3: I know Nick 15 minutes ago when I was introduced to him.

[1:11:44] Voice 3: I don't know why this is being entertained here at this level.

[1:11:48] Voice 3: It seems like this is common sense that we're working for communities

[1:11:52] Voice 3: and for people on this island, not just communities, but people.

[1:11:55] Voice 3: it seems to me that this fella is doing what he needs to do to build a community so i don't even

[1:12:03] Voice 3: know why there is a question about this or why this is being entertained obviously i'm ignorant

[1:12:08] Voice 3: of a lot of the politics that goes on and what each organization does but you're really wasting

[1:12:14] Voice 3: your time you're doing this stuff you should pass this thing and let it go through thank you for

[1:12:18] Voice 3: of time.

[1:12:22] Voice 5: Paul Sinclair, I've been running a business here for almost 20 years, and I'm

[1:12:28] Voice 5: completely dependent on Mid-Almory to service my equipment, to provide me with the tools,

[1:12:35] Voice 5: to keep my boats running, to help people on the island. In fact, I can't think, I would think that

[1:12:43] Voice 5: 100% of the people on Salt Spring are affected by having Nick here on island.

[1:12:51] Voice 5: Landscapers, arborists, boat owners, boat operators, it should be designated an essential

[1:12:57] Voice 5: service and it needs to be approved as commercial zoning on Salt Spring. Thank you very much.

[1:13:10] Voice 2: My name's Lloyd Fraser and well I've known Nick since he was an apprentice for

[1:13:17] Voice 2: Ross the boss on that same property 30 some odd years ago and about eight years I've been a

[1:13:26] Voice 2: more or less a neighbor in that property living on Churchill Road and I just want to say that I

[1:13:34] Voice 2: you know I like others have said it is an essential service to the island should be

[1:13:41] Voice 2: allowed to continue. But as a former neighbor there, I never noticed any noise issues whatsoever.

[1:13:51] Voice 2: I got a lot more complaints at our place from the barking dog on Upper Ganges Road.

[1:13:58] Voice 2: Didn't hear anything from the mid-isle property. Traffic wise wasn't ever an issue and

[1:14:06] Voice 2: and I just think it should be allowed to continue.

[1:14:12] Voice 23: Okay, thank you.

[1:14:13] Voice 23: My

[1:14:21] Voice 24: name is Charles Allsberg.

[1:14:23] Voice 24: I've been a resident of Salt Springs since the early 70s.

[1:14:28] Voice 24: I'm a physician here,

[1:14:29] Voice 24: but I also maintain a small amount of property

[1:14:32] Voice 24: and I've relied on NICS services for decades.

[1:14:38] Voice 24: And I think there's many small property owners

[1:14:43] Voice 24: on the island here who clear their work on their land are continually working with clearing

[1:14:50] Voice 24: brush and doing all kinds of things with their property. And I have personally relied on Nick's

[1:14:58] Voice 24: services and Nick's business for a long time. And I think it's a valuable and necessary part

[1:15:06] Voice 24: part of this community thank you thank you very much all

[1:15:12] Trustee Maude (probable): right so i'll call for a second time

[1:15:15] Trustee Maude (probable): i moved

[1:15:17] Voice 20: to adjourn the public hearing so november 6th

[1:15:23] Trustee Maude (probable): okay would you like to sort of explain

[1:15:26] Trustee Maude (probable): yeah yeah how come sorry

[1:15:29] Trustee Patrick (probable): it's not second there's no motion

[1:15:30] Trustee Maude (probable): there's no motion but i think i

[1:15:32] Trustee Patrick (probable): just made a motion yes

[1:15:33] Trustee Maude (probable): yeah it

[1:15:34] Trustee Patrick (probable): has to be seconded

[1:15:35] Trustee Maude (probable): i'm not

[1:15:39] Trustee Maude (probable): I will second the motion for discussion, sir,

[1:15:41] Trustee Maude (probable): because I need to understand Trustee Patrick's rationale.

[1:15:49] Trustee Patrick (probable): This is not about an opinion of this project whatsoever.

[1:15:53] Trustee Patrick (probable): What we need is a clean process.

[1:15:56] Trustee Patrick (probable): Process is vitally important.

[1:15:59] Trustee Patrick (probable): This is a legislative process that we're in.

[1:16:03] Trustee Patrick (probable): We've had a mail strike that has affected the delivery

[1:16:07] Trustee Patrick (probable): of the driftwood, which is where our public notice is.

[1:16:11] Voice 3: Can you cut the bullshit

[1:16:12] Voice 3: and just get to the point?

[1:16:13] Voice 3: Excuse me,

[1:16:15] Trustee Patrick (probable): process is where we could be challenged.

[1:16:18] Trustee Patrick (probable): We want to be able to make a decision that stays.

[1:16:23] Voice 1: Excuse

[1:16:24] Trustee Patrick (probable): me, this is about administrative fairness

[1:16:28] Trustee Patrick (probable): and getting to a decision that is defensible and final.

[1:16:35] Trustee Patrick (probable): It's only three weeks from now.

[1:16:37] Trustee Patrick (probable): It allows the process to be, like I said, clean, if that's the right word.

[1:16:44] Trustee Patrick (probable): Can't contest it.

[1:16:47] Trustee Patrick (probable): So that's all that my process is about, maintaining a healthy process,

[1:16:55] Trustee Patrick (probable): because otherwise we could be criticized for not meeting the notice requirements,

[1:17:01] Trustee Patrick (probable): and I don't want to have that happen.

[1:17:06] Trustee Maude (probable): So I'll just turn to Mr. Hutton.

[1:17:10] Trustee Maude (probable): Are there any downsides to adjourning and reconvening?

[1:17:17] Trustee Maude (probable): So basically in the process of what's doing, is there any impact on the applicant?

[1:17:22] Trustee Maude (probable): Is there any impact at all to adjourning and reconvening?

[1:17:27] Trustee Maude (probable): Well, I won't

[1:17:28] Voice 11: presume any impact on the applicant in terms of their individual experience.

[1:17:33] Voice 11: experience. But what I would say is that I just want to be really clear that adjournments would

[1:17:39] Voice 11: not generate any additional notice, right? We wouldn't be doing another newspaper ad.

[1:17:47] Voice 11: So it's certainly something that you could do if you feel that you want to give people more time

[1:17:52] Voice 11: to provide input. It wouldn't give us the ability to provide another community information meeting

[1:17:57] Voice 11: necessarily. So those are kind of the two points that I think might be missing in this process.

[1:18:02] Voice 11: and they don't necessarily come from adjournment,

[1:18:04] Voice 11: but second public hearing may be an option.

[1:18:07] Voice 11: So if you still wish to proceed with adjournment,

[1:18:10] Voice 11: you could certainly hear from everybody who's here today,

[1:18:13] Voice 11: as long as we're, you know,

[1:18:14] Voice 11: it's not midnight or anything right now,

[1:18:16] Voice 1: so we

[1:18:16] Voice 11: can certainly continue to hear from people.

[1:18:21] Voice 11: So it's, you know, in terms of the applicant, the timing,

[1:18:24] Voice 11: the way that we process applications on Salt Spring

[1:18:27] Voice 11: that are like the post public hearing process,

[1:18:30] Voice 11: so there's a bit of a timeline uh question here so um if we were to close this hearing today and

[1:18:36] Voice 11: call it a day um the the effect would be that we would come back with a report uh i can't

[1:18:42] Voice 11: guarantee that we come back in three weeks in november six that's not um given that the

[1:18:45] Voice 11: shortage of staff we have right now but um you know for for entertainment purposes and we'll

[1:18:51] Voice 11: say just for you know how things ought to go we would come back november 6th with a recommendation

[1:18:55] Voice 11: patient um and a summary of what we heard at the public hearing um and then we would do third

[1:19:01] Voice 11: reading and then of course as you well know um that the the application goes to um to executive

[1:19:07] Voice 11: committee um or for consideration and as long as that was approved um this one is also subject to

[1:19:14] Voice 11: an ocp it's an ocp amendment so we are also we need to do uh referral to the ministry of housing

[1:19:21] Voice 11: and municipal affairs to get that approval in place.

[1:19:26] Voice 11: So the timing on that is, I mean, it's still probably additionally affected

[1:19:32] Voice 11: by the public sector strike, the ongoing labor action.

[1:19:34] Voice 11: So how that process goes is unclear to me.

[1:19:37] Voice 11: And then we would do an approval.

[1:19:40] Voice 11: Typically, I find LTC wants to do approvals by resolution without meeting

[1:19:45] Voice 11: or at the subsequent meeting.

[1:19:46] Voice 11: So if all the stars lined up, you could be approved.

[1:19:51] Voice 11: This rezoning would be approved by January.

[1:19:54] Voice 11: That's a very tall order and probably not likely given all the requirements that are needed to be.

[1:19:59] Voice 11: So that idealistic January date is February.

[1:20:06] Voice 11: For

[1:20:07] Trustee Maude (probable): my clarity, I'm obviously late in the process here.

[1:20:12] Trustee Maude (probable): I expect to make a decision.

[1:20:14] Trustee Maude (probable): the business is currently operating it is not subject to any bylaw enforcement concerns or

[1:20:20] Trustee Maude (probable): anything at this point in time because we're considering

[1:20:22] Trustee Maude (probable): exactly yeah so if we adjourn for

[1:20:27] Trustee Maude (probable): three weeks there is no impact on the applicant per se so it's basically

[1:20:33] Trustee Maude (probable): the process is getting

[1:20:34] Trustee Maude (probable): delayed but everything's kind of cool as far as so

[1:20:38] Voice 11: bureaucratically mr chair i can say that there's

[1:20:40] Voice 11: no impact, but you may want to hear from the applicant himself to confirm that.

[1:20:46] Voice 11: I'll refer to

[1:20:47] Trustee Maude (probable): Trustee Harris if the applicant is here, we'll just hear from the applicant.

[1:20:51] Voice 9: I have a fair bit to say about this. To start, just to follow up what we just heard,

[1:20:57] Voice 9: I think the applicant can be very affected by this. To me it seems that possibly people

[1:21:04] Voice 9: aren't happy that we don't have a big enough turnout opposing this rezoning, and so we

[1:21:09] Voice 9: we want to cancel it. That's where my mind

[1:21:12] Voice 9: was. I automatically, this is the largest turnout we've

[1:21:14] Voice 9: had for public hearing since bylaw 537 that was going to allow sweets and cognac. So we know what

[1:21:20] Voice 9: happened to that when that got kicked down the road by the same LTC. You know, this, this application

[1:21:28] Voice 9: has been on the website for the, you know, through the agenda form with the Ritalin Stress

[1:21:34] Voice 9: organization it's been in the newspaper um been available to everybody in town it's a small town

[1:21:41] Voice 9: where it gets around people discuss what's happening and to make the insinuation that

[1:21:46] Voice 9: somehow somebody doesn't know about this and then to call this an unclean process is a to me a an

[1:21:54] Voice 9: insult to everybody here here here so you know i move that um we already moved from the table so

[1:22:05] Voice 9: Okay. Well, I'm completely opposed to this. And I believe that this ought to be, the third reading ought to be heard today.

[1:22:12] Voice 9: Here, here. And

[1:22:14] Voice 9: get this, get on with it. For this to be

[1:22:17] Voice 9: stopped, I'm not surprised that it's being proposed from what I've seen in the last three years with this organization, this LTC.

[1:22:27] Voice 9: That's my point. I'm completely opposed to adjourning this.

[1:22:32] Trustee Maude (probable): No applause, please. Is the applicant here? Would you like to hear your perspective as

[1:22:41] Trustee Maude (probable): to the impact?

[1:22:43] Voice 9: I see it as being a net return. I mean, I know it's out there, it's in the papers

[1:22:48] Voice 9: online, where it said all immediate neighbours had activities delivered to them. We don't

[1:22:54] Voice 9: have one neighbor here right so they knew that so they're not really in need the way i was

[1:23:02] Voice 9: engaged they came down the process they're here people are here to support or go against

[1:23:07] one person go against it to me the most sort of seriousness of like accusations or issues

[1:23:15] and they are the

[1:23:18] Voice 9: people that were hand delivered packages on this meeting

[1:23:21] Voice 9: so I see it sort of unnecessary

[1:23:24] Voice 3: to prolong the whole process by this

[1:23:28] Voice 29: way that's my opinion

[1:23:30] Voice 29: thank you sir yes

[1:23:32] Trustee Patrick (probable): please be assured I have my my reasoning for asking to adjourn instead of

[1:23:38] Trustee Patrick (probable): closing the hearing has nothing to do with my opinions or public opinions just covering your

[1:23:43] Voice 3: ass that's all you're doing sir

[1:23:45] Trustee Patrick (probable): most municipalities in this province due to the mail strike right now

[1:23:52] Trustee Patrick (probable): have postponed all public hearings during the during this event so this is

[1:23:57] Trustee Patrick (probable): not I've done the research and I was concerned my concern is that we had a

[1:24:01] Trustee Patrick (probable): process that was good and that is the only concern is we've had problems today

[1:24:07] Trustee Patrick (probable): we had problems opening the meeting today we had problems with the public

[1:24:11] Trustee Patrick (probable): hearing binder being present in the room we had you know so that is all is to

[1:24:18] Trustee Patrick (probable): allow this to remain open and close it in three weeks um is is all i'm asking that's all

[1:24:26] Voice 9: there may have been issues getting the public binder but it's here it's here the people are

[1:24:34] Voice 9: here the newspapers are amongst the community letters have been sent to the neighbors there's

[1:24:39] Voice 9: been plenty of time and there's no need to um postpone this any part here you're here

[1:24:50] Trustee Maude (probable): So do you want to take some more questions from the public, or so, we're in a debate.

[1:24:57] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yeah.

[1:25:01] Trustee Maude (probable): So there's

[1:25:02] Voice 15: a there's a motion on the board.

[1:25:07] Voice 17: And you guys are here for us, we elected you in, and you've heard from us. Right, you're

[1:25:14] Voice 17: here for us. We're not here for yourselves, you're here for us. We're all here, telling

[1:25:18] Voice 17: telling you something we're all telling you the same thing no

[1:25:21] Trustee Maude (probable): i certainly respect that we're

[1:25:24] Trustee Maude (probable): having a discussion amongst ourselves so we can't we're this is our time please but but so so we're

[1:25:31] Trustee Maude (probable): in the middle of a motion we need to do stuff i need to get some clarity here because i'm in the

[1:25:36] Trustee Maude (probable): middle of two trustees so i have to work this thing through myself you want five minutes five

[1:25:43] Trustee Maude (probable): minutes to discuss it among yourselves no we're no this is a public meeting we're assessing this

[1:25:48] Trustee Maude (probable): stuff publicly so what it is just i need sort of the clarity of what's going on here because

[1:25:55] Trustee Maude (probable): as as was stated we're covering our ass and that's what trustee patrick is saying

[1:26:01] Trustee Maude (probable): that's why we don't go forward no no but the thing is legally speaking we have to make sure

[1:26:06] Trustee Maude (probable): we do things right so we we're not subject to any challenges

[1:26:08] Voice 29: no

[1:26:10] Trustee Maude (probable): just your model

[1:26:11] Voice 11: yeah so this

[1:26:12] Voice 11: you just to keep the conversation as trustees in the discussion yeah so

[1:26:16] Trustee Maude (probable): that's what i'm just

[1:26:18] Trustee Maude (probable): saying to the trustees or is it that's where we're at trustee harris thank you everything

[1:26:24] Voice 9: has been done legally process has um you know moving along the way it is supposed to have moved

[1:26:31] Voice 9: um i'd say we call the vote here here on whether he would join us or not i

[1:26:39] Voice 20: have no further debate

[1:26:40] Voice 20: to ask a

[1:26:42] Voice 9: question just for my clarity

[1:26:46] Trustee Maude (probable): so we're unfortunately we're because we're in the middle

[1:26:51] Trustee Maude (probable): of the motion it's i need input from trustees and input from trust from some staff um i need

[1:26:59] Trustee Maude (probable): to understand the jeopardy that we may or may not be in um so i'm kind of i'm looking in the

[1:27:08] Trustee Maude (probable): back room at our regional or our planning manager our director of planning services um to see so

[1:27:18] Trustee Maude (probable): staff and sermon do you have any advice that you could give further to me please please be honest

[1:27:26] Voice 9: hi everybody my name is sir the director of the violence trust

[1:27:33] Voice 9: To answer the question, the Salisbury and Highland Local Trust Committee has met all

[1:27:38] Voice 9: the legal requirements and posts according to reasonable measures at the time.

[1:27:45] Involves the

[1:27:46] Voice 9: strike, has been accrued and delivered, public notice has been served,

[1:27:51] Voice 9: information is available, legally can you proceed, is it sloppy according to normal

[1:27:57] Voice 9: processes?

[1:27:57] Voice 9: Yeah. Unusual times. Not good. It's up to the decision. The LTC would not see it.

[1:28:04] Voice 9: But my advice to your legally okay.

[1:28:14] Voice 9: Thank you, sir.

[1:28:17] Voice 9: As I said, we've met everything that needs to be met.

[1:28:21] Voice 9: And as Sir Mac has just said, we've met the legal requirements.

[1:28:25] Voice 9: This is right from coming right from staff.

[1:28:28] Voice 9: I'm prepared to vote on this motion before us.

[1:28:40] Trustee Maude (probable): Any further input that you have

[1:28:42] Voice 20: something to add? I've stated my reasons. Okay.

[1:28:46] Trustee Maude (probable): So call

[1:28:47] Trustee Maude (probable): a vote. All in favor?

[1:28:55] Trustee Maude (probable): So one in favor, those opposed? Opposed? So the motion is defeated.

[1:29:03] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay. So we're still in the public hearing. I have to get back in. So I'll just have a

[1:29:15] Trustee Maude (probable): call for a second time for anybody else who wishes to speak. Sir.

[1:29:21] Voice 13: Andrew Clark. I think obviously by the attendance in the room and the positive nature of the

[1:29:27] Voice 13: attendees, you've heard from the public. You've heard from your head planner. This has been

[1:29:33] Voice 13: legally done there has been lots of time for people to react where are these people who don't

[1:29:39] Voice 13: want it to happen well they don't seem to have taken the time to come here so i think you need

[1:29:46] Voice 13: to do your job thank

[1:29:47] Trustee Maude (probable): you sir so i'll call for a third time maybe i'll speak to speak sir my name

[1:30:00] Voice 1: Ogilvy, and I want you to, I've done three little developments downtown, so I've been through the

[1:30:07] Voice 1: process quite a bit, and I want to make sure that you realize the emotional toll it takes when you're

[1:30:14] Voice 1: doing this, okay, which Nick's been going through for years, okay, it's unbelievable, okay, it's all

[1:30:20] Voice 9: I have to say. Okay,

[1:30:21] Trustee Maude (probable): thank you very much. I

[1:30:23] Voice 9: just want to thank the gentleman, Mr. Ogilvy, for

[1:30:25] Voice 9: stating that, because that's something that's very important, content that people don't know

[1:30:28] Voice 9: there's an emotional aspect to all these things related to the adults' trust

[1:30:33] Voice 9: and what comes down in the community.

[1:30:35] Voice 9: It's been going on a very long time.

[1:30:36] Voice 9: It's something that really needs to be recognized.

[1:30:39] Trustee Maude (probable): Thank you.

[1:30:40] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay, thank you very much.

[1:30:42] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay, I'll call for a third time for anybody else who wishes to speak.

[1:30:49] Trustee Maude (probable): All right.

[1:30:53] Trustee Maude (probable): So, I'm going to get down to the bottom here.

[1:30:59] Trustee Maude (probable): So, do we have written submissions?

[1:31:02] Voice 11: We do.

[1:31:02] Voice 11: We do. We have 35 written submissions in support in the Bible.

[1:31:09] Voice 11: If there's any other written submissions today, we can receive those before the end of this public hearing.

[1:31:16] Trustee Maude (probable): So what we'll do is we'll take, say, a 10-minute pause so the trustees can review the written submissions.

[1:31:24] Trustee Maude (probable): And we will – so we're just going to – amongst ourselves, we will review the written submissions,

[1:31:30] Trustee Maude (probable): and then we will come up back out so if you can bring the binder to us and we

[1:31:36] Trustee Maude (probable): will go through

[1:31:38] Voice 16: no

[1:31:40] Trustee Maude (probable): I'm not at this point

[1:31:45] what

[1:31:54] Voice 9: so you're familiar with what he's all the things I think you guys got

[1:32:00] Voice 9: talking about a lot of it right so

[1:32:03] Voice 29: after

[1:32:04] Voice 11: the referrals here

[1:32:06] Voice 29: we're going

[1:32:07] Voice 11: to start picking up on the 10th for some reason yeah

[1:32:14] Trustee Maude (probable): so generally making the the submissions are all supported i don't think i've seen

[1:32:21] Trustee Maude (probable): that's probably the clarity of it

[1:32:32] Trustee Maude (probable): And you've seen all the emails.

[1:32:34] Trustee Maude (probable): No,

[1:32:34] Voice 29: we have not received any emails.

[1:32:36] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay.

[1:32:43] Voice 15: It's not in the public hearing.

[1:37:52] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay, we've had time to review the written submissions.

[1:37:56] Trustee Maude (probable): So we will now proceed to close the public hearing.

[1:37:59] Trustee Maude (probable): Please note, after the public hearing closes,

[1:38:01] Trustee Maude (probable): the local trust committee will no longer be able to receive public submissions

[1:38:05] Trustee Maude (probable): prior to making a decision.

[1:38:08] Trustee Maude (probable): So asking once more, once again, are there any more speakers on this? Asking for a second time, are there any more speakers on this?

[1:38:21] Trustee Maude (probable): I

[1:38:21] Voice 6: have a question. Are you going to vote now on whether or not this is approved or not?

[1:38:26] Voice 6: Yeah,

[1:38:27] Trustee Maude (probable): it gets more. I will quickly. Just

[1:38:30] Voice 6: yes or no.

[1:38:31] Trustee Maude (probable): Yeah, yes. In a way, is that will be is it is it is it if if we have a motion to consider us under new business, we would do the third reading today.

[1:38:43] Trustee Maude (probable): But that, of course, is not the conclusion of this, because as Planner Hutton stated, there's a whole other bureaucratic process outside of this.

[1:38:53] Trustee Maude (probable): So the next steps perhaps will be considered in a new business today, yes. So, yes.

[1:38:59] Voice 6: And then is it generally the case that if you approve it, that it will get approved?

[1:39:07] Trustee Maude (probable): Well, it rarely is not approved. I'll put it that way.

[1:39:11] Trustee Maude (probable): but nothing is that that's outside of this body so i can't really make any assurances one in one

[1:39:17] Trustee Maude (probable): way or the other but generally speaking it goes to the process so i'll ask for a third time are

[1:39:23] Trustee Maude (probable): there any other speakers on this so this is now the final opportunity for your hand in written

[1:39:31] Trustee Maude (probable): submission to the local trust committee once the hearing is closed no additional submissions will

[1:39:36] Trustee Maude (probable): be accepted please be advised that we're now on the post public hearing stage the legislature

[1:39:40] Trustee Maude (probable): review of proposed bylaw number 543. The Salt Springs Local Trust Committee can now no longer

[1:39:46] Trustee Maude (probable): receive information pertaining to the proposed bylaws. However, you can still submit any

[1:39:51] Trustee Maude (probable): outstanding questions and comments directly to the planner. The Local Trust Committee may give

[1:39:58] Trustee Maude (probable): further readings to the bylaw or defeat the bylaw or make minor amendments that do not affect the

[1:40:02] Trustee Maude (probable): user density density without further notice or hearings so we are we are adjourned on that

[1:40:11] Trustee Maude (probable): topic so person there is um

[1:40:16] Voice 9: yeah under the new business portion um the ltc request staff to put

[1:40:20] Voice 9: together the necessary motions to uh have this violated right a third time and have the necessary

[1:40:25] Voice 9: amendments made where they need to be um done so we can go on today

[1:40:30] Voice 9: if

[1:40:30] Voice 11: you vote positively for that I can yeah just suggest that we we consider I think it's fine

[1:40:43] Voice 11: that just add that if you want to vote on that that that one so okay

[1:40:47] Trustee Maude (probable): I just checked with the

[1:40:48] Trustee Maude (probable): courting secretary that she captured that I'm

[1:40:52] Voice 27: sorry can you repeat that motion for me I move

[1:40:56] Voice 9: that the LTC request staff put together the necessary motions in order to finalize the bylaw

[1:41:02] Voice 9: numbers one of us thank you ss rz 2019.1 vote on them today under

[1:41:11] Trustee Maude (probable): new business under new business

[1:41:15] Voice 20: secretary

[1:41:16] Trustee Maude (probable): trustee patrick any further discussion

[1:41:19] Trustee Maude (probable): call the question all in favor that carries all right so now we're going to move into the second

[1:41:35] Voice 20: Okay,

[1:41:36] Trustee Maude (probable): so the timing for that is at noon,

[1:41:42] Voice 20: so

[1:41:43] Trustee Maude (probable): the wish is to jump forward to the application

[1:41:48] Trustee Maude (probable): and referrals?

[1:41:49] Voice 20: No, because that's where

[1:41:50] Trustee Maude (probable): we left off.

[1:41:51] Trustee Maude (probable): Oh, my goodness, thank goodness somebody's paying attention.

[1:41:57] Voice 9: so

[1:41:58] Trustee Maude (probable): where did we so we're at nine one eight

[1:42:07] Voice 15: three one eight

[1:42:07] Trustee Maude (probable): three one thank goodness okay so we're

[1:42:10] Trustee Maude (probable): at eight three one page 20 or page 22 that's draft minutes of the september i thought we did

[1:42:17] Trustee Maude (probable): that um 18th um papc meeting mr chair we were

[1:42:23] Trustee Patrick (probable): uh discussing a motion that had been made by

[1:42:26] Trustee Patrick (probable): by the Advisory Planning Commission

[1:42:27] Trustee Patrick (probable): who was talking about the survey.

[1:42:32] Trustee Patrick (probable): If I might, I did talk to a number of people

[1:42:36] Trustee Patrick (probable): that were at the APC meeting.

[1:42:38] Trustee Patrick (probable): I understand the reasoning for that motion.

[1:42:41] Trustee Patrick (probable): I think there's some discussion

[1:42:43] Trustee Patrick (probable): from an executive committee standpoint

[1:42:45] Trustee Patrick (probable): that we should have regarding draft surveys

[1:42:48] Trustee Patrick (probable): and who should see them before they go public.

[1:42:51] Trustee Patrick (probable): I think this is not the first time it's happened

[1:42:54] Trustee Patrick (probable): into this past year, not just at Salt Spring, but for other surveys. I think it's a valid point that

[1:43:02] Trustee Patrick (probable): needs to be looked at. But for where we are in the process, I think the website's quite clear

[1:43:09] Trustee Patrick (probable): that closing of this survey process later this month, the consultants are going to be reviewing

[1:43:17] Trustee Patrick (probable): everything that's been received. And if they believe that further engagement's necessary at

[1:43:23] Trustee Patrick (probable): at this stage, they're going to make that recommendation.

[1:43:25] Trustee Patrick (probable): So I'm comfortable with proceeding where we are.

[1:43:29] Trustee Patrick (probable): I understand the concerns with seeing the survey.

[1:43:33] Trustee Patrick (probable): I would have liked the committee to have seen the survey,

[1:43:35] Trustee Patrick (probable): but it didn't happen, it's already out.

[1:43:38] Trustee Patrick (probable): And I think the process will have an opportunity

[1:43:42] Trustee Patrick (probable): to correct that if it's needed,

[1:43:46] Trustee Patrick (probable): once we see the results of where it's at.

[1:43:50] Trustee Patrick (probable): So I'm comfortable with just proceeding.

[1:43:57] Trustee Patrick (probable): Nothing to add?

[1:43:59] Voice 20: So there's no action from my angle.

[1:44:03] Voice 11: Mr. Chair, just two things to note.

[1:44:10] Voice 11: Once we've done the PHS intermediate

[1:44:12] Voice 11: minutes, you may wish to consider taking a break

[1:44:16] Voice 11: in the day break prior to the start of the public career.

[1:44:22] Voice 11: That's what we want to know right now.

[1:44:24] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay, so we're down, we're 831, we're okay. So 832,

[1:44:33] Trustee Patrick (probable): that's not correct, it's just for

[1:44:37] Trustee Patrick (probable): information. We don't

[1:44:38] Trustee Patrick (probable): adopt their minutes.

[1:44:40] Trustee Maude (probable): So we have draft minutes of the September

[1:44:41] Trustee Maude (probable): 25th meeting, just for your information. And then we have 833 on page 30, draft minutes

[1:44:49] Trustee Maude (probable): as of September 25th, AAPC meeting, again.

[1:44:54] Voice 29: Anything

[1:44:54] Trustee Maude (probable): else on those?

[1:44:56] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay.

[1:44:57] Trustee Maude (probable): And so is this the appropriate time for the break?

[1:45:01] Trustee Maude (probable): So we will take a break until 12 o'clock,

[1:45:06] Trustee Maude (probable): where we'll commence the other public hearing.

[1:45:13] Trustee Maude (probable): So with that, thank you very much.

[1:45:16] Trustee Maude (probable): We will be back at 12 o'clock.

[2:13:16] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay, we're ready to reconvene here. All right. So on to our second public hearing.

[2:13:40] Trustee Maude (probable): The public hearing for proposed bylaw number 543 is now open. I wish to welcome everybody

[2:13:45] Trustee Maude (probable): in attendance and acknowledge that we're meeting in the territory of the Coast Salish First Nations.

[2:13:52] Trustee Maude (probable): My name is Trustee David Maude. I'm chair today of the Salisbury Island Local Trust Committee.

[2:13:57] Trustee Maude (probable): I'd like to introduce your Salisbury Island Local Trust Committee trustees, Laura Patrick

[2:14:02] Trustee Maude (probable): and Jamie Harris.

[2:14:05] Trustee Maude (probable): I'd like to introduce our Trust Planning Services.

[2:14:07] Trustee Maude (probable): We have Chris Hutton, the Regional Planning Manager, supporting us today.

[2:14:11] Trustee Maude (probable): We have Stephen Cermak, our Director of Planning Services, with us at the end of the table.

[2:14:17] Trustee Maude (probable): We have Carly Bilney, who is doing the recording and hosting the meeting today.

[2:14:22] Trustee Maude (probable): And we also have your normal chair, Tim Peterson, is actually attending electronically, just

[2:14:29] Trustee Maude (probable): hiding. All right, so going forward, this public hearing is being convened pursuant to section

[2:14:40] Trustee Maude (probable): 465 of the Local Government Act in order to consider proposed bylaw number 543 cited as

[2:14:45] Trustee Maude (probable): land use bylaw 1999, amendment number 2, 2025. All persons who believe that they're interested

[2:14:52] Trustee Maude (probable): in the property is affected by the proposed bylaw will be given a reasonable opportunity

[2:14:59] Trustee Maude (probable): to be heard or to be present,

[2:15:01] Voice 29: written

[2:15:02] Trustee Maude (probable): submission respecting matters contained in the proposed

[2:15:07] Trustee Maude (probable): bylaws.

[2:15:08] Trustee Maude (probable): Those wishing to speak should commence their presentation clearly by stating their name.

[2:15:14] Trustee Maude (probable): Members of the Local Trust Committee may, if they wish, ask questions to be following

[2:15:17] Trustee Maude (probable): your presentation.

[2:15:18] Trustee Maude (probable): However, the main function of the Local Trust Committee members is to listen to the views

[2:15:22] Trustee Maude (probable): the public it is not the function of the committee members debate the merits of the proposed bylaws

[2:15:27] Trustee Maude (probable): with individual citizens everybody who will be given a reasonable opportunity to be heard

[2:15:32] Trustee Maude (probable): and none shall be feel discouraged from presenting their views

[2:15:37] Trustee Maude (probable): in considering the proposed bylaws of the trust committee has received documents which may

[2:15:41] Trustee Maude (probable): influence the decision these documents are available for review during the hearing as

[2:15:46] Trustee Maude (probable): available on our website and indicated the public hearing notice any person who wishes to present

[2:15:51] Trustee Maude (probable): written submissions to the local trust committee may do so and all written submissions are available

[2:15:55] Trustee Maude (probable): for review during this hearing written submissions must be received by the local trust committee

[2:16:00] Trustee Maude (probable): before the close of the hearing your final opportunity to commit on the proposed bylaws

[2:16:05] Trustee Maude (probable): during the is during the hearing as members of the local trust committee may not receive further

[2:16:09] Trustee Maude (probable): submissions nor discuss the proposed bylaw with the public after the post the hearing

[2:16:14] Trustee Maude (probable): after the public hearing is concluded the local trust committee may without further notice make

[2:16:18] Trustee Maude (probable): with whatever decision it deems proper with respect to the bylaws that are under subject

[2:16:23] Trustee Maude (probable): to the hearing um planner hutton will now summarize the public hearing notice key points

[2:16:29] Trustee Maude (probable): of bylaw and referral agency responses um

[2:16:34] Voice 10: yeah thank you mr chair um so a copy of this

[2:16:36] Voice 10: notice was advertised in two consecutive editions of the gulf island driftwood on october 8th 2025

[2:16:42] Voice 10: all notification requirements under the local government activities completed

[2:16:46] Voice 10: There is a copy of the complete public hearing

[2:16:49] Voice 11: binder available during this public hearing,

[2:16:51] Voice 11: and it is located on the Island Trust website, as noted from Mr. Maude.

[2:16:58] Voice 11: Bylaw number 543 proposes to amend Salisbury Islands Land Use Bylaw to include an administrative definition of a public works facility in the Land Use Bylaw

[2:17:09] Voice 11: and change subject property zoning from Agricultural 1 and Residential 2, so the A1 and R2.

[2:17:16] Voice 11: zones, two community facility, three zone to permit the proposed upgrade to the CRD

[2:17:23] Voice 11: Parks and Maintenance Facility.

[2:17:26] Voice 11: This bylaw was referred to three provincial agencies, three regional agencies, three non-agencies

[2:17:31] Voice 11: and 12 First Nations.

[2:17:33] Voice 11: The following comments and responses were received by the Trust Committee.

[2:17:38] Voice 11: So actually, we haven't actually received any responses on this one.

[2:17:45] Voice 11: That's that.

[2:17:46] Voice 11: um okay

[2:17:48] Trustee Maude (probable): thank you submissions can now be made at any time during and until the close of the hearing

[2:17:55] Trustee Maude (probable): if any submissions are received during the meeting the local trust committee will pause prior to

[2:18:00] Trustee Maude (probable): closing to ensure that we have had time to review those submissions i will begin with the speakers

[2:18:06] Trustee Maude (probable): as i we don't have a speaker list because we have a small audience so we'll just ask people to line

[2:18:10] Trustee Maude (probable): up behind this sort of camera here to speak. I invite members of the public who wish to speak

[2:18:16] Trustee Maude (probable): to line up. Please state your name prior to making comments. After your presentation to the local

[2:18:23] Trustee Maude (probable): trust committee, the trustees may ask you questions, but they are primarily here to listen

[2:18:29] Trustee Maude (probable): and will not debate the issues with you. I will call three times for speakers before closing the

[2:18:34] Trustee Maude (probable): hearing at which point no further written or oral submissions will be made so um if anybody has

[2:18:41] Trustee Maude (probable): anything to say you're welcome to stand up and make a comment so go

[2:18:50] Voice 30: ahead sir thank you trustee

[2:18:52] Voice 30: uh dan o'meaton senior manager for salton island crd administration uh just some comments so

[2:18:58] Voice 30: rezoning 210 and 220 kanaka road to permit a park maintenance facility and electric bus storage yard

[2:19:04] Voice 30: would support more efficient service delivery and environmental sustainability on Sunspring Island.

[2:19:11] Voice 30: Co-locating CRD parks operations and DC transit infrastructure would reduce travel time and operating costs,

[2:19:18] Voice 30: improve response times for park maintenance, and provide essential charging and storage capacity for future electric buses.

[2:19:26] Voice 30: The project would also lower greenhouse gas emissions and noise,

[2:19:30] Voice 30: enhance reliability of local transit service,

[2:19:33] Voice 30: and modernize public infrastructure

[2:19:36] Voice 30: to meet community and climate goals.

[2:19:38] Voice 30: Thank you.

[2:19:39] Trustee Maude (probable): Thank you.

[2:19:42] Trustee Maude (probable): Does anybody else wish to speak?

[2:19:46] Trustee Maude (probable): So have we had any submissions this morning?

[2:19:50] Trustee Maude (probable): There's no new submissions.

[2:19:52] Trustee Maude (probable): So there's no need for local trust nation review.

[2:19:56] Trustee Maude (probable): All right.

[2:19:56] Trustee Maude (probable): So I'll ask a second time if there's anybody need to speak.

[2:20:04] Trustee Patrick (probable): Just to say, I would entertain adjourning, but I don't feel safe to have that conversation at this time.

[2:20:16] Trustee Maude (probable): So I'll ask a third time, does anybody wish to speak?

[2:20:30] Trustee Maude (probable): This is now the final opportunity for you to hand in a written submission to the Local Trust Committee.

[2:20:34] Trustee Maude (probable): Once the hearing is closed, no additional submissions will be accepted.

[2:20:40] Trustee Maude (probable): Please be advised now that we are now in the post-public hearing stages of the legislative review.

[2:20:46] Trustee Maude (probable): review of proposed bylaw number 543. The Salisbury Highland Local Trust Committee can now no

[2:20:51] Trustee Maude (probable): longer receive information pertaining to the proposed bylaws, however you can still submit

[2:20:56] Trustee Maude (probable): any outstanding questions and comments directly to the planner. The Local Trust Committee

[2:21:00] Trustee Maude (probable): may give further readings to the bylaw or repeat the bylaw or make minor amendments

[2:21:04] Trustee Maude (probable): that do not affect the use or density of them without further notice of the hearings.

[2:21:17] Trustee Maude (probable): Thank you very much.

[2:21:26] Trustee Maude (probable): So we're going to go back in our agenda.

[2:21:31] Trustee Maude (probable): So we have correspondence on nine, are we correct?

[2:21:34] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yeah, Mr. Chair, I'd say we did advertise that the applications would be dealt with at 1230.

[2:21:39] Trustee Patrick (probable): So I think some applicants have left and we're going to come back.

[2:21:44] Trustee Patrick (probable): So we do have a little bit of an issue with timing, just to bring to your attention.

[2:21:47] Trustee Patrick (probable): Okay. Well, but if

[2:21:49] Trustee Maude (probable): we roll back, correspondence was supposed to be 10.30, so we can roll through

[2:21:55] Trustee Maude (probable): the correspondence. But you're suggesting that after correspondence, we sort of pause

[2:22:02] Trustee Maude (probable): to 12.30?

[2:22:04] Trustee Patrick (probable): Go do something else on the agenda.

[2:22:06] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay. All right. Well, let's go through the correspondence then. So at page 33, we have

[2:22:11] Trustee Maude (probable): um j-roll to the global trust committee email dated september 19 2025 regarding used oil

[2:22:18] Trustee Maude (probable): recycling crisis so that's for your information uh trustees any actions you wish to take on this

[2:22:29] Trustee Maude (probable): patrick

[2:22:30] Trustee Patrick (probable): my only i i think um once uh we can have some dialogue with bylaw enforcement

[2:22:39] Trustee Patrick (probable): I think there's related issues on other properties and waste handling and transfer in general

[2:22:49] Trustee Patrick (probable): that we need to have a conversation about.

[2:22:54] Trustee Patrick (probable): But I think we're going to have to wait.

[2:22:57] Trustee Patrick (probable): We have to stop back.

[2:23:01] Trustee Maude (probable): Is there a motion to keep this active so it doesn't just get received?

[2:23:06] Trustee Maude (probable): you no

[2:23:06] Trustee Patrick (probable): i think we've already it was it was in the request for uh uh in camera conversation later

[2:23:14] Trustee Patrick (probable): that is so it's gonna have to wait so i don't think i have to further action it'll come back

[2:23:19] Trustee Patrick (probable): when we have

[2:23:20] Trustee Maude (probable): staff back okay all right anything for you trustee here no thank

[2:23:25] Trustee Maude (probable): you okay mr chair

[2:23:27] Voice 11: is there a desire to move this to reconsider that letter at a later date or uh forward it to anyone

[2:23:35] Voice 11: one or um i believe that letter was forwarded to by law enforcement when we received it

[2:23:41] Voice 11: as a matter of industry of course i just want to clarify if there's a need to come back and

[2:23:46] Voice 11: discuss it at this table no

[2:23:48] Trustee Patrick (probable): it's related issues not this one so

[2:23:54] Trustee Maude (probable): 9.2 um we have um a letter from

[2:23:58] Trustee Maude (probable): from miss lexer to uh mr hutton uh dated september 2nd 2025 regarding positively forward

[2:24:06] Trustee Maude (probable): housing report so trustees any actions you wish to take with this happy to take this for information

[2:24:18] Trustee Patrick (probable): my understanding is all the information is being considered as part of the project so

[2:24:23] Trustee Maude (probable): okay thank you um all right so we'll move move down uh to the page 51 the follow-up action list

[2:24:35] Trustee Maude (probable): um so we have a few things um chair peterson had asked me to um

[2:24:43] Trustee Maude (probable): raise the issue um of meeting start time um it's apparently listed as being um

[2:24:53] Voice 20: That's under 18 for the next meeting.

[2:24:58] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay, so he's probably did it the wrong way.

[2:25:00] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay, so we'll be dealing with that at 18, okay.

[2:25:05] Trustee Maude (probable): So is there anything else on the follow-up action list anybody wishes to raise?

[2:25:14] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay, so we move down to page 56, the active projects list,

[2:25:19] Trustee Maude (probable): and page 60, the future projects list.

[2:25:21] Trustee Maude (probable): Again, any questions or concerns?

[2:25:28] Voice 29: okay so actually

[2:25:35] Trustee Maude (probable): if we're trying to jump over there actually isn't anything else

[2:25:40] Trustee Maude (probable): beyond the applications that i see on the agenda new

[2:25:44] Trustee Patrick (probable): business so

[2:25:46] Trustee Maude (probable): we can do this we

[2:25:46] Trustee Patrick (probable): might not be

[2:25:47] Trustee Patrick (probable): ready for uh i'm

[2:25:49] Voice 11: quite ready to add those those resolutions to do there so um you can

[2:25:54] Trustee Maude (probable): we were

[2:25:56] Trustee Maude (probable): okay so

[2:25:57] Voice 9: do we need a motion to go forward with the um public you know for the public hearing

[2:26:05] Voice 9: that was just closed we need to read that a third time that's the

[2:26:09] Voice 9: staff at work so yeah so

[2:26:12] Voice 9: we don't need a motion for that that's already happening okay all right so

[2:26:17] Trustee Maude (probable): you you

[2:26:20] Trustee Maude (probable): there were a couple of issues raised under new business that were not that um you had

[2:26:28] Trustee Maude (probable): my crude notes say here minister meeting uh

[2:26:31] Trustee Patrick (probable): yeah minister for franklin for season um

[2:26:35] Trustee Patrick (probable): minister boyle uh minister of housing and municipal affairs was on salt spring yesterday

[2:26:41] Trustee Patrick (probable): um and i think got a a very good appealing for the the challenges of our housing situations on the

[2:26:49] Trustee Patrick (probable): island um so there's two things i think uh i think the local trust committee should uh prepare a

[2:26:56] Trustee Patrick (probable): a letter, and I know that's going to be hard, so I don't know if it's a political letter, but

[2:26:59] Trustee Patrick (probable): a follow-up. In particular, she really started asking questions in the afternoon about data.

[2:27:07] Trustee Patrick (probable): How many people, and there was a lot of questions about data. And I think those were good questions,

[2:27:15] Trustee Patrick (probable): hard to answer questions because we didn't have the data. So I think there's an opportunity to

[2:27:20] Trustee Patrick (probable): dialogue with the ministry to to understand the kind of data there they would like to understand

[2:27:27] Trustee Patrick (probable): and know because we're looking to the ministry to help fund some of these housing projects

[2:27:33] Trustee Patrick (probable): and if we're if if we could have perhaps better data to support our need that might help our

[2:27:42] Trustee Patrick (probable): our chance of getting some funding so um i think there's a conversation to be had with the ministry

[2:27:49] Trustee Patrick (probable): regarding you know what is the data they're looking for uh how could we generate that data

[2:27:55] Trustee Patrick (probable): so that we're not just you know that we make up data they're not make up data but we we prepare

[2:28:00] Trustee Patrick (probable): and collect data and i think it would help our official community plan project that we're going

[2:28:05] Trustee Patrick (probable): on as well so i see that being beneficial so i think if we could perhaps uh you know correspond

[2:28:12] Trustee Patrick (probable): with the minister following yesterday's visit thanking her and trying to open up a dialogue on

[2:28:18] Trustee Patrick (probable): on what kind of data would be useful to the ministry

[2:28:23] Trustee Patrick (probable): to support the challenges that we have on the island for housing

[2:28:32] Trustee Patrick (probable): and methods in which we could collect it that's defensible

[2:28:37] Trustee Patrick (probable): and supportable and acceptable to the ministry.

[2:28:41] Trustee Maude (probable): So you would like to motion?

[2:28:45] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yeah, I think if we could basically prepare a letter

[2:28:49] Trustee Patrick (probable): that you know i but i i understand we don't have a staff right now so i don't it would be

[2:28:54] Trustee Patrick (probable): challenging so either and i guess i'd look to staff could could we write such a political letter

[2:29:00] Trustee Patrick (probable): or how would i want to not leave this in limbo and i think timing's important following the minister's

[2:29:07] Trustee Patrick (probable): visit yesterday so i guess i'd be looking to staff for thoughts director

[2:29:15] Trustee Maude (probable): to serve the

[2:29:15] Voice 9: uh i think the best option uh you ended the project as part of being a chair of

[2:29:24] Voice 9: considering you know the minister's response as well the uvcm

[2:29:35] Voice 9: there there has to be board assessments and et cetera

[2:29:40] Voice 9: to respond to and thank the ministers yesterday and some of the questions she had in the follow-up

[2:29:45] Voice 9: as you know, the mitigation must be staffed and work with the staff in response to

[2:29:51] Voice 9: that as a way to enforce the settlement. So I think it's a large hoping to

[2:29:55] Voice 9: utilize that as a way for BCTU to catch up to us, but I do recommend...

[2:30:00] Voice 9: that um you have two options you can do that as part of the ltc and the lc can make a resolution

[2:30:05] Voice 9: or u.s chair which has council have that sort of uh engagement authority to work with that

[2:30:12] Voice 9: senior challenge to the minister and to encourage that um finding the best definitely useful for

[2:30:18] Voice 9: housing is assessment and so on so yeah we have options so it depends if the lbc wants to take

[2:30:28] Trustee Maude (probable): would an appropriate motion be um that the local trust committee requests the chair of trust

[2:30:35] Trustee Maude (probable): council i

[2:30:37] Voice 9: think that would be the most transparent and local and the community

[2:30:48] Voice 9: so maybe

[2:30:49] Trustee Patrick (probable): we can just keep the motion somewhat vague and make a motion about myself writing a

[2:30:55] Trustee Patrick (probable): letter but I guess I'd move that the Salt Spring Island local trust committee request

[2:30:59] Trustee Patrick (probable): a letter to the minister of housing and municipal affairs thanking her for the

[2:31:10] Trustee Patrick (probable): or a letter from the chair of trust council or do we have to ask the executive committee I'm sorry

[2:31:19] Trustee Patrick (probable): Sorry, now that I'm thinking.

[2:31:27] Trustee Patrick (probable): Okay, so requesting a letter

[2:31:30] Trustee Patrick (probable): from the chair of trust council thanking the minister

[2:31:35] Trustee Patrick (probable): and seeking to work with the ministry

[2:31:38] Trustee Patrick (probable): on housing needs data.

[2:31:46] Trustee Maude (probable): So I'll just check with the recording secretary

[2:31:48] Trustee Maude (probable): if she captured that.

[2:31:49] Voice 27: Sure, do you want me to reread it?

[2:31:51] Voice 27: yes

[2:31:51] Trustee Maude (probable): please okay

[2:31:53] Voice 27: um that the salt spring island local trust committee requests a letter from the

[2:31:56] Voice 27: chair of trust council thanking the minister of housing and municipal affairs and seeking to work

[2:32:01] Voice 27: with the ministry on housing needs data i

[2:32:05] Trustee Patrick (probable): think it's pretty much i think thanking her for her

[2:32:07] Trustee Patrick (probable): visit to salt spring island i think would just clean up that motion a little bit and you know

[2:32:16] Voice 29: Okay, I

[2:32:18] Trustee Maude (probable): will second for discussion. So discussion, Trustee Harris.

[2:32:25] Voice 9: Yeah, the whole premise of this just, you know, it boggles my mind. We already know that we need

[2:32:33] Voice 9: housing. We've known it for more than just this term. I ran and other trustees ran on that, you

[2:32:42] Voice 9: You know, as part of our campaign, we needed especially work ownership type of housing and zoning to do that.

[2:32:50] Voice 9: We already know we don't need another housing needs assessment.

[2:32:53] Voice 9: We know we need housing.

[2:32:54] Voice 9: We've heard from staff early in the term that we couldn't have done this within six months.

[2:33:00] Voice 9: There's so much we could have done and we haven't done.

[2:33:02] Voice 9: And we're still sitting here talking and writing letters of thanks.

[2:33:05] Voice 9: And I'm, you know, I'm dumbfounded by it all.

[2:33:08] Voice 9: I'm opposed to this.

[2:33:09] Voice 9: I'm opposed to the OCP.

[2:33:12] Voice 9: you know in

[2:33:12] Voice 9: a great if everything's all rosy and sunshine and lollipops here in salt spring we

[2:33:16] Voice 9: have it's an official community plan but no we're in a crisis we knew that we've known it for a long

[2:33:21] Voice 9: time the unspressed organization was warned ago about 20 years ago from authorities from

[2:33:29] Voice 9: from whistler and you know things have been done in these neighboring jurisdictions that have

[2:33:34] Voice 9: their tourist-based economy or tourist-based communities to fino whistler for instance to

[2:33:41] Voice 9: to have done zoning to allow for workforce ownership,

[2:33:47] Voice 9: housing projects and the form of building stratas

[2:33:50] Voice 9: to be done and controlled by a housing authority.

[2:33:55] Voice 9: This is done in

[2:33:56] Voice 9: neighboring jurisdictions and it works.

[2:33:57] Voice 9: It's not reinventing the wheel.

[2:33:59] Voice 9: And here we're spinning our wheels.

[2:34:02] Voice 9: Three years, gonna be four.

[2:34:06] Voice 9: Two terms will have gone by eight years.

[2:34:08] Voice 9: we had a group of people put together last term um you know it was i forget the name of the group

[2:34:16] Voice 9: but they put together the 50537 or i could be getting the number wrong but um you know i'm

[2:34:25] Voice 9: very very frustrated sitting here and i'm going to look at the community and you know they're

[2:34:30] Voice 9: what's going on what are you doing well i can't do anything my hands are tied i've brought all

[2:34:35] Voice 9: kinds of things forward and here yet i'm being asked to write a letter of thanks to the minister

[2:34:39] Voice 9: and the minister the province has just basically told us to you know i don't even know what verse

[2:34:46] Voice 9: you the trust council which was a we had a battle to get a letter to the minister and asked him to

[2:34:51] Voice 9: open up the legislation of the islands trust and the province has basically said no and we've been

[2:34:57] Voice 9: told regarding bylaw 544 which has to do with housing which the province imposed on all other

[2:35:01] Voice 9: municipalities in the province to deal with it ourselves like that was long ago so you know

[2:35:10] Voice 9: there was an election the whole the community came out and was engaged that's the biggest

[2:35:17] Voice 9: public engagement we are going to get is from an election and the community wanted housing

[2:35:22] Voice 9: and sustainable um sustainable healthy happy communities and go back to my old notes i could

[2:35:29] Voice 9: stuff i wrote speeches and all the rest of it that got you know me put into this position

[2:35:35] Voice 9: you spoke about this kind of stuff in length so at this point i'm completely opposed to

[2:35:45] Voice 9: what's the same partners for this motion okay thank you just patrick thanking the minister

[2:35:52] Trustee Patrick (probable): is a minimal minimum activity to do we have lots of work to do on housing getting funding

[2:36:00] Trustee Patrick (probable): for the various projects on the island is just one aspect and anything we can do to help support

[2:36:05] Trustee Patrick (probable): and help that funding get in place is beneficial.

[2:36:11] Voice 9: Trustee Harris.

[2:36:12] Voice 9: Speaking of funding,

[2:36:15] Voice 9: 3 million plus dollars a year to leave Salt Spring Island

[2:36:17] Voice 9: to go to the Island's Trust Organization.

[2:36:20] Voice 9: The organization has been deemed dysfunctional

[2:36:21] Voice 9: by independent consulting from hired

[2:36:23] Voice 9: by the Island's Trust Organization itself last term.

[2:36:26] Voice 9: That 3 million bucks,

[2:36:28] Voice 9: we could be doing a lot of stuff here in Salt Spring.

[2:36:30] Voice 9: And the only way to keep that here

[2:36:31] Voice 9: is to have a municipal structure to our governance,

[2:36:34] Voice 9: void of anything to do with the Island's Trust.

[2:36:37] Voice 9: us so what we ought to be doing is rallying the community to get behind that notion and petitioning

[2:36:43] Voice 9: the province to have a referendum put on the next election ballot in a year from now if we were

[2:36:49] Voice 9: serious about wanting to do anything about housing and funding so to me that argument about funding

[2:36:56] Voice 9: for housing projects doesn't flow as the island's trust organization sits under the local government

[2:37:04] Voice 9: act what we can do isn't build housing but we can do zoning that's what we're allowed to do

[2:37:12] Voice 9: so you know looking for funding to for housing it doesn't it doesn't make any sense

[2:37:16] Voice 9: let's do some zoning how about that something we can do and i've done in six months

[2:37:21] Voice 9: boy to that let's petition the community to um to support the province for a referendum coming

[2:37:27] Voice 9: up in this next election to keep three million dollars plus here yearly for that reason i'm

[2:37:34] Voice 9: opposed to

[2:37:36] Trustee Maude (probable): this motion okay any further discussion okay call the question all in favor opposed

[2:37:47] Trustee Maude (probable): that carries i have

[2:37:49] Voice 9: my opposition noted please yes

[2:37:51] Trustee Maude (probable): can you please record trustee harris you know is

[2:37:55] Trustee Maude (probable): opposed all right um the other thing um i had noted for new business um was discuss next steps

[2:38:04] Trustee Maude (probable): of the policy statement, I believe it was?

[2:38:06] Voice 20: No, it was for the

[2:38:08] Voice 20: agenda, for the

[2:38:13] Voice 20: public, that was

[2:38:15] Voice 20: the rezoning.

[2:38:16] Trustee Maude (probable): Oh, okay.

[2:38:18] Trustee Maude (probable): I've made it mute.

[2:38:20] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay.

[2:38:21] Voice 20: I think staff are working on draft

[2:38:23] Voice 20: motions.

[2:38:25] Trustee Maude (probable): We're at 1225,

[2:38:26] Trustee Maude (probable): so we're close to

[2:38:28] Trustee Maude (probable): time. So you're ready

[2:38:32] Trustee Maude (probable): with motions?

[2:38:33] Voice 10: If you want to start with the development applications, or if you

[2:38:35] Voice 10: want to start with the motions, I just emailed those motions

[2:38:38] Voice 10: to yourself as well

[2:38:39] Voice 11: as the building, so you'll have those in your inbox immediately if anybody

[2:38:44] Voice 11: wants to make a motion.

[2:38:46] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay, trust me, there's some motions currently in your inboxes. I haven't

[2:38:52] Voice 9: received one yet, but I'm sure it'll be

[2:38:54] Voice 11: coming in time. Yeah. I wonder if, Mr. Chair, you could

[2:38:57] Voice 11: ask the building to read them out. Okay. I

[2:39:00] Voice 11: have

[2:39:02] Trustee Patrick (probable): it. I can read it. Okay. I've got it. Okay.

[2:39:07] Trustee Patrick (probable): Okay.

[2:39:07] Trustee Patrick (probable): I move that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee

[2:39:10] Trustee Patrick (probable): bylaw number 544 cited as Salt Spring Island

[2:39:14] Trustee Patrick (probable): official community plan number 434-2008

[2:39:18] Trustee Patrick (probable): amendment number 1-2025 be read a third time.

[2:39:22] Trustee Maude (probable): Second Trustee Harris.

[2:39:23] Trustee Maude (probable): Any further discussion?

[2:39:26] Trustee Maude (probable): If not, call the question all in favor.

[2:39:28] Trustee Maude (probable): That carries.

[2:39:30] Trustee Patrick (probable): I move that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee

[2:39:32] Trustee Patrick (probable): bylaw number 355 cited as Salt Spring Island

[2:39:35] Trustee Patrick (probable): local land use bylaw number 355, 1999,

[2:39:39] Trustee Patrick (probable): amendment number three, 2022, be read a third time.

[2:39:43] Trustee Maude (probable): Secretary, Trustee Harris?

[2:39:45] Trustee Maude (probable): Further discussion?

[2:39:46] Voice 11: I apologize, that land use bylaw number was 2025.

[2:39:50] Voice 11: Amendment number three, 2025.

[2:39:52] Voice 11: 2025.

[2:39:53] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay, that's correct.

[2:39:55] Voice 20: Mover agrees.

[2:39:56] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay, all right.

[2:39:58] Trustee Maude (probable): So call the question, all in favor?

[2:40:00] Trustee Maude (probable): That carries.

[2:40:02] Trustee Patrick (probable): I move that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee

[2:40:04] Trustee Patrick (probable): proposed bylaws number 544 and 545 be forwarded to the Secretary of the Islands Trust for the

[2:40:11] Trustee Patrick (probable): Executive Committee for approval.

[2:40:14] Trustee Maude (probable): Secretary Harris, any further discussion? Call the question,

[2:40:17] Trustee Maude (probable): all in favor? That carries. And

[2:40:20] Trustee Patrick (probable): I move that the Salisbury Island Local Trust Committee bylaw

[2:40:22] Trustee Patrick (probable): number 544 be forwarded to the Minister of Housing and Municipal Affairs for approval.

[2:40:26] Trustee Patrick (probable): Secretary Harris, any

[2:40:29] Trustee Maude (probable): further discussion? Call the question, all in favor? That carries.

[2:40:31] Trustee Maude (probable): All right. So that's the suites. All right. Thank you very much.

[2:40:40] Voice 20: What about the other bylaws?

[2:40:42] Voice 20: Congratulations, Nick.

[2:40:44] Voice 20: I'm sorry?

[2:40:45] Voice 11: I

[2:40:46] Voice 20: don't know.

[2:40:50] Trustee Maude (probable): Is it the other application you're applying with procedure?

[2:40:59] Trustee Maude (probable): 100%.

[2:41:00] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay. Yes, please.

[2:41:01] Trustee Maude (probable): please. So what we'll do is we'll get back, so we'll do the applications, and then we'll

[2:41:10] Trustee Maude (probable): do another set of new visits to do those. Okay. So staff have, so we are at 1228, we're

[2:41:18] Trustee Maude (probable): supposed to be 1230, so I think it's appropriate to proceed. So we have at 14.1, page 63, oh,

[2:41:26] Trustee Maude (probable): Oh, we have an off-grid one again.

[2:41:27] Trustee Maude (probable): P-L-R-Z-20-25-0220-0.

[2:41:34] Trustee Maude (probable): Both here.

[2:41:35] Trustee Maude (probable): 154 Kings Lane.

[2:41:37] Trustee Maude (probable): Kings Lane.

[2:41:38] Trustee Maude (probable): Page 63.

[2:41:44] Trustee Maude (probable): So over to you, Mr. Hutton.

[2:41:47] Trustee Maude (probable): I assume you are becoming a catch-all today.

[2:41:52] Trustee Maude (probable): I am, yes.

[2:41:55] Voice 9: Page number, if you don't mind.

[2:41:57] Voice 9: Page 63.

[2:41:58] Trustee Maude (probable): 63.

[2:41:59] Voice 9: 62?

[2:42:00] Trustee Maude (probable): 63 63

[2:42:01] Voice 11: here we are oh yes oh um yeah so here's uh this application is uh related to uh what

[2:42:08] Voice 11: gets forward 64 king's lane um so we ltc uh maybe just uh for background uh uh the king's lane uh

[2:42:18] Voice 11: application is to uh promote to allow for uh what previously was 50 units of seniors housing down

[2:42:26] Voice 11: affordable housing. The applicants are currently in the process of entering into the cost recovery

[2:42:31] Voice 11: agreement or legal review of a draft housing agreement to prepare that housing agreement

[2:42:38] Voice 11: as part of this. So this application brings forward a bylaw for reading to result to make

[2:42:45] Voice 11: that zoning change. I'm just taking a look here. The application, this report is not

[2:42:53] Voice 11: but I think the LPC is recommending or staff is recommending that the application be read first and second time.

[2:43:03] Voice 11: That we acknowledge the policy statement taken for this application.

[2:43:12] Voice 11: It's the bylaw has been prepared, the bylaw has been referred out, but I did just have one sort of, I don't think it's quite noted in here, that say our First Nations,

[2:43:24] Voice 11: last week. They indicated that they do have intention to provide comment on this application.

[2:43:31] Voice 11: However, they weren't able to provide that yet. So that will be coming ideally before November.

[2:43:37] Voice 11: But for the purposes of where we're at right now, because there's a housing agreement process that

[2:43:43] Voice 11: needs to be completed before we move this application forward to third reading, we're

[2:43:48] we're

[2:43:48] Voice 11: suggesting that that'll be coming.

[2:43:51] Voice 11: So just as an advisory.

[2:43:54] Voice 11: So otherwise it's there for first and second reading.

[2:43:57] Voice 11: The bylaw indicates some,

[2:44:01] Voice 11: that we're creating a new R13 zone

[2:44:06] Voice 11: that's specific to providing public family dwellings

[2:44:10] Voice 11: and affordable housing units.

[2:44:13] Voice 11: There's a bunch of provisions for it.

[2:44:15] Voice 11: So if there's any questions, I'm happy to answer them.

[2:44:19] Voice 11: thank

[2:44:20] Trustee Maude (probable): you is the applicant with us today thanks um so do trustees have any questions for the

[2:44:26] Trustee Maude (probable): applicants or for the plan of this my

[2:44:29] Trustee Patrick (probable): only question is we did receive the letter that

[2:44:31] Trustee Patrick (probable): requested some wording clarification in the bylaw so i'd look to staff do we need to

[2:44:41] Trustee Patrick (probable): pass a i mean i can understand they're fairly minor but do we need to pass a resolution asking

[2:44:48] Trustee Patrick (probable): you to look at that wording or um so

[2:44:54] Trustee Maude (probable): that wording would be incorporated third reading or how i would

[2:44:57] Trustee Maude (probable): i would

[2:44:57] Voice 11: suggest that that letter be used um to be reviewed by by staff and brought back at third

[2:45:03] Voice 11: reading um as far as uh this kind of having a chance to review the implications of that change

[2:45:10] Voice 11: um i don't have a full analysis for you at this time so um

[2:45:15] Trustee Maude (probable): but the requests are minor enough that

[2:45:18] Trustee Maude (probable): they can't be incorporated third reading certainly

[2:45:20] Voice 11: yeah any any change is going to occur prior to

[2:45:22] Voice 11: third reading so that's fine yeah there's going to be a trustee here i think for me

[2:45:27] Voice 11: i just want

[2:45:30] Trustee Patrick (probable): to make so the letter will we don't need to that letter will be acknowledged and

[2:45:35] Trustee Patrick (probable): looked at we don't need to give you direction okay that

[2:45:38] Voice 11: was all i wanted to put on to correspondence

[2:45:40] Voice 11: the next meeting regardless but we're more likely to bring back a report to you uh this is uh as

[2:45:47] Voice 11: LPC as I can advise this is the priority um application uh in your uh south spring office so

[2:45:55] Voice 11: it's high focused as well so at this point all right you

[2:46:02] Trustee Maude (probable): guys are sure Mr.

[2:46:03] Voice 11: Chair sorry for

[2:46:03] Voice 9: interrupting me I sent your correspondence all this morning I'm not sure that's when you confirmed

[2:46:08] Voice 9: no

[2:46:08] Trustee Patrick (probable): the applicant provided a letter okay

[2:46:11] Voice 9: I just wanted to line your attention if you don't want

[2:46:13] Voice 9: it's about water and just water in the watershed uh and for the applicant

[2:46:17] Voice 11: kind of scary the uh i

[2:46:20] Voice 11: just sent it to them now and all it does that means that my dogs who got

[2:46:25] Voice 9: it this morning so

[2:46:26] Voice 9: you have it in your bus but if you don't use your medicine there's any correspondence about water

[2:46:33] Voice 9: okay thanks thank

[2:46:36] Trustee Patrick (probable): you that letter writer also spoke during the town hall this morning

[2:46:42] Voice 25: there's a question about the housing agreement and the sequence of things

[2:46:47] Voice 25: we haven't entered into that cost recovery agreement for legal review of the housing

[2:46:51] Voice 25: agreement and chris just mentioned that had to be done before by law third reading i wonder if

[2:46:57] Voice 25: there's an opportunity to do it before adoption so that we don't hold up third reading any advice

[2:47:05] Trustee Maude (probable): from staff yeah

[2:47:06] Voice 11: yeah we can do that it would just be conditional so yeah so the housing agreement

[2:47:10] Voice 11: it remains a condition you're right all the way up until adoption okay

[2:47:13] Trustee Maude (probable): thank you somebody prepared

[2:47:16] Trustee Maude (probable): to make a promotion sure trustee harris i

[2:47:20] Voice 9: move that the salt spring and local trust committee

[2:47:26] Voice 9: has reviewed the alice trust policy statement directives on the checklist to determine the

[2:47:30] Voice 9: bylaw number 549 stated assault spring island land 355 1999 amendment number 5 2025 154 kingsland

[2:47:40] Voice 9: lane road is not contrary to or at variance with the Island Trust Policy Statement.

[2:47:47] Voice 9: Second.

[2:47:48] Trustee Maude (probable): Further discussion?

[2:47:51] Trustee Patrick (probable): I understand the water questions, and I think that's something later in the process.

[2:47:56] Trustee Patrick (probable): As we know, North Salt Spring is hoping down the road to open some, hopefully, capacity

[2:48:04] Trustee Patrick (probable): on this side of the system that we as a local trust committee should encourage them to go

[2:48:11] Trustee Patrick (probable): back and look at some of these projects on that could

[2:48:15] Trustee Patrick (probable): be and should be connected to that water

[2:48:17] Trustee Patrick (probable): service um you know at a later stage so i think it's just something we can be aware of and uh

[2:48:24] Trustee Patrick (probable): pay attention to as we as we go closer all

[2:48:28] Trustee Maude (probable): right go for the discussion i'll call the question all

[2:48:33] Trustee Maude (probable): in favor that carries i

[2:48:37] Voice 9: move that the salt spring island local trust committee bylaw number five

[2:48:40] Voice 9: 549 is the same as Sulzbrunner with Landshut style, number 355, number 5, 20.5, BGF proposed

[2:48:48] Voice 9: a second time. PLRZ 2025-0220-154.

[2:48:57] Trustee Maude (probable): Second, Mr. Patrick. Any further discussion? If not,

[2:49:01] Trustee Maude (probable): call the question. All in favor? That carries. Thank you very much. All right. We move down

[2:49:07] Trustee Maude (probable): to 14.2 it's p l r z 24 001 um d janet um at 355 blackburn road so over to you mr

[2:49:23] Trustee Maude (probable): and that's page 104 and we don't have the applicant with us

[2:49:35] Trustee Maude (probable): it doesn't appear so it looks

[2:49:39] Voice 11: like we don't um so actually this is this is another one where like

[2:49:42] Voice 11: the applicant or the sale presentation is indicated intent to reply so basically the last one um

[2:49:49] Voice 11: this is the uh it's actually a yoga center it's advertised as a yoga center down on

[2:49:55] Voice 11: uh blackburn road uh it's previously under all that contract um and this pre-zoning application

[2:50:01] Voice 11: really just is because land use contracts are an outdated uh planning tool they are set to expire

[2:50:08] Voice 11: fire. Don't have the data off my head, but sometime in 2025. So we have a couple of these

[2:50:15] Voice 11: on the island that we're just working to bring into compliance by just rezoning them over

[2:50:20] Voice 11: to what was previously in that contract. That's pretty much the substance of the bylaw as

[2:50:29] Voice 11: it's been presented there. And it's stick up with first and second reading. First Nation

[2:50:34] Voice 11: does have uh intent to respond on this one as well so that should be coming uh in the near future

[2:50:40] Trustee Maude (probable): thank you trustees any questions about this been

[2:50:45] Trustee Patrick (probable): around on this one before all right so

[2:50:47] Trustee Maude (probable): tell me compared to i

[2:50:49] Trustee Patrick (probable): moved the salt spring island local trust committee bylaw number 546

[2:50:52] Trustee Patrick (probable): cited as salt spring island land use bylaw number 355 1999 amendment number four 2025 be ready first

[2:50:59] Trustee Patrick (probable): time.

[2:51:00] Trustee Maude (probable): Seconded. Any further discussion? If not, call the question. All in favor? That carries.

[2:51:08] Trustee Maude (probable): I

[2:51:08] Trustee Patrick (probable): move that Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee bylaw number 546 cited a Salt Spring

[2:51:12] Trustee Patrick (probable): Island land use bylaw number 355-1999, amendment number 4-2025 be read a second time.

[2:51:19] Trustee Maude (probable): Seconded. Further discussion? Not called. Go ahead. Okay, so call the question. All in favor?

[2:51:28] Trustee Maude (probable): the hands are going up quick and

[2:51:29] Trustee Patrick (probable): i'm moving on local trust committee request staff to schedule

[2:51:32] Trustee Patrick (probable): a community information meeting and public hearing for bylaw number 546 cited as salt

[2:51:37] Trustee Patrick (probable): spring island land use bylaw number 355 1999 amendment number 4 2025. second any further

[2:51:45] Trustee Maude (probable): discussion i

[2:51:45] Trustee Patrick (probable): do have discussion i just um for staff uh that when we the community information

[2:51:50] Trustee Patrick (probable): meetings it would be nice if the trustees could also receive invitations to those meetings so

[2:51:56] Trustee Patrick (probable): we know when they're happening and they should be posted on the website um to the public as well

[2:52:03] Trustee Patrick (probable): because i think the public are starting to look at our website and these community information

[2:52:06] Voice 20: meetings should be there okay

[2:52:09] Trustee Maude (probable): thank you any further discussion more

[2:52:13] Trustee Patrick (probable): work i know but

[2:52:15] Trustee Maude (probable): all right so we'll call the question all in favor that carries

[2:52:18] Trustee Maude (probable): All right. So that's those. So we're on to 14.3 on page number 116, PLAR 2025-0198,

[2:52:32] Trustee Maude (probable): our Hispanic, 820 Mount Maxwell Road. So over to you, Mr. Hatton.

[2:52:45] Trustee Maude (probable): Your page number again, Mr. Chairman.

[2:52:47] Trustee Maude (probable): 116.

[2:52:49] Voice 20: All right. So I

[2:52:55] Voice 11: keep blanking on this. This is just an update on a report that was previously reviewed, I believe, right? It's a non-adhering residential use.

[2:53:14] Voice 11: yeah, the application was considered. It was picked by the AAPC, the Agricultural Advisory Planning Commission, on September 25th,

[2:53:22] indicating

[2:53:23] Voice 11: approval of it, and it's essentially just addressing a non-occurring residential use on the property for the second home.

[2:53:34] Voice 11: go straight forward

[2:53:37] Trustee Maude (probable): any questions

[2:53:39] Trustee Maude (probable): finally

[2:53:40] Trustee Patrick (probable): question is that

[2:53:41] Trustee Patrick (probable): I do know you know we need to be

[2:53:44] Trustee Patrick (probable): explicit in our support

[2:53:45] Trustee Patrick (probable): just as with

[2:53:48] Trustee Patrick (probable): support the motion

[2:53:49] Trustee Patrick (probable): from the agricultural planning committee

[2:53:51] Trustee Patrick (probable): was very clear that the support was

[2:53:53] Trustee Patrick (probable): for the reasons of no farmland is being

[2:53:56] Trustee Patrick (probable): removed and supports farm worker

[2:53:57] Trustee Patrick (probable): dwellings should we

[2:54:00] Trustee Patrick (probable): have that in this motion as well

[2:54:02] Trustee Patrick (probable): so that we're specific on the support i

[2:54:05] Voice 11: won't speak to the should of it but it's certainly a

[2:54:07] Voice 11: reasonable amendment to make and to provide either if the desire to provide a clear uh

[2:54:13] Voice 11: rationale as to why lpc supports this and those those reasons uh are agreeable to you then

[2:54:20] Voice 11: certainly it's uh worth a minute okay

[2:54:23] Trustee Patrick (probable): then i'll um i move the salt spring island local trust

[2:54:28] Trustee Patrick (probable): committee request staff to forward the application PLA LR 2025-0198 to the Agricultural Land

[2:54:36] Trustee Patrick (probable): Commission with support and the reasons are just for the minute taker are on the next page but

[2:54:44] Trustee Patrick (probable): for the following reasons no farm land use is being removed and supports farm worker dwellings.

[2:54:53] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay I just confirmed the recording secretary has got that addition.

[2:54:58] Voice 27: Got it yes thank you.

[2:54:59] Trustee Maude (probable): Thank you. Trustee Harris, second that motion. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none, call the question. All in favor? That carries. All right. And I suppose because we've kept Mr. Hutton busy, he's probably not quite ready with those motions.

[2:55:21] Trustee Maude (probable): I'm getting there.

[2:55:24] Trustee Maude (probable): Just because I'm a lost lamb, is there anything else we can deal with?

[2:55:29] Trustee Maude (probable): I think we've gone through the agenda.

[2:55:36] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay, so let me just send it to you now.

[2:55:38] Voice 4: I have some.

[2:55:39] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay, excellent.

[2:55:45] Trustee Patrick (probable): So just the two?

[2:55:47] Voice 11: Just the two for this one, because there's only one language bylaw amendment.

[2:55:51] Voice 11: Yep, not a lot.

[2:55:51] Voice 11: So you've got just to read it a third time.

[2:55:55] Voice 11: oh but what i haven't figured out i apologize just the last thing i was checking here was

[2:56:00] Voice 11: whether or not we had actually approved a policy statement director's only checklist

[2:56:04] Voice 11: from the check you had and i see that on you

[2:56:08] Trustee Patrick (probable): said it was land use file this says official

[2:56:10] Trustee Patrick (probable): community plan it

[2:56:13] Voice 11: doesn't say ocp my apologies it should be landed by law all right

[2:56:16] Voice 20: i might need

[2:56:17] Voice 20: five more minutes he

[2:56:18] Voice 20: needs a bit more time yeah okay

[2:56:19] Voice 20: um

[2:56:20] Trustee Maude (probable): am i correct there's something more more

[2:56:23] Trustee Maude (probable): more on the agenda reports can i suggest a little break here so 10 minutes yeah okay so we'll just

[2:56:34] Trustee Maude (probable): take a 10-minute break um while we we get up to speed and we'll be back in 10 minutes thank you

[3:07:28] Trustee Maude (probable): So we are going to reconvene.

[3:07:35] Trustee Maude (probable): We have reconvened.

[3:07:37] Trustee Maude (probable): So I believe we're at page 119,

[3:07:39] Trustee Maude (probable): which is the policy and standing resolutions list.

[3:07:43] Trustee Maude (probable): Just for your information, I should have any questions.

[3:07:49] Trustee Maude (probable): So page 127, open applications report.

[3:07:52] Trustee Maude (probable): So Trustee Patrick.

[3:07:54] Trustee Patrick (probable): I just have one question.

[3:07:55] Trustee Patrick (probable): I do understand and I expect if the strike action carries on,

[3:08:01] Trustee Patrick (probable): we're probably going to have more inquiries from um uh so just for staff's purpose i know i've had

[3:08:08] Trustee Patrick (probable): inquiries i've told them to use the ssi info email and so i so that's the right thing for us to

[3:08:14] Trustee Patrick (probable): continue to do

[3:08:14] Trustee Patrick (probable): yeah okay um so i uh this i have a question on the soil deposit uh permit for 116

[3:08:24] Trustee Patrick (probable): cypress view road what's the status of that

[3:08:26] Voice 11: so the um so the permit was uh drafted a couple

[3:08:32] Voice 11: weeks ago so it's just with me right now so it is uh very imminent to be reviewed and

[3:08:38] Voice 11: i think it's issuable by myself so it's it's just a pretty straightforward process

[3:08:45] Voice 11: yeah but it's it just with all the other uh the workload that shifted in the last week or so it's

[3:08:51] Voice 11: been hard to get to that

[3:08:52] Voice 20: one thank you

[3:08:54] Voice 8: trustee harris um i'm just checking in to make sure that

[3:08:58] Voice 8: that um applicant will be getting their deposit back in a timely fashion because

[3:09:04] Voice 11: they qualify for

[3:09:05] Voice 11: one like i said i've got a review of them and yeah of course they if they um are qualified for

[3:09:11] Voice 11: a refund um of the of a deposit uh i imagine we got to go into our agreements

[3:09:19] Voice 11: If we got to do that, I'm pretty sure I'll be able to work with the director of finance

[3:09:24] Voice 11: to move that forward if necessary.

[3:09:27] Voice 11: Will that take a long time to figure out?

[3:09:29] Voice 11: It won't take a long time to figure out, but it's our ability to move at the pace we can

[3:09:34] Voice 11: move with our limited staff at the moment.

[3:09:38] Voice 11: So a couple of weeks, months?

[3:09:41] Voice 11: I really couldn't say right now, given that it's dependent on other staff as well.

[3:09:47] their levels are at right now, the amount of things that we deal with and

[3:09:51] Voice 11: changing demands.

[3:09:55] Voice 11: Would it help to make a motion to prioritize something like this?

[3:09:59] Trustee Maude (probable): I guess right now, because of the strike actions, that should sort of work.

[3:10:05] Voice 9: Also, okay, I want to say something else, but it becomes subject, so I'll just wait

[3:10:11] Voice 9: the week

[3:10:11] Trustee Maude (probable): okay thank you all right so anything else with that um and just for trustee harris's

[3:10:20] Trustee Maude (probable): information uh the the bylaws um that we were going to do um for crd we can't proceed because

[3:10:28] Trustee Maude (probable): the policy statement checklist wasn't complete so we will get that at the next meeting all right so

[3:10:36] Trustee Maude (probable): um if there's nothing else in the applications report of course we have the expense report

[3:10:40] Trustee Maude (probable): there for your information. There's no report from the Trust Conservancy Board.

[3:10:46] Trustee Maude (probable): Next thing I see here, unless anybody corrects me, is the upcoming meetings.

[3:10:54] Trustee Maude (probable): At the

[3:10:55] Trustee Maude (probable): beginning of the

[3:10:55] Voice 9: meeting, I mentioned about a closed session.

[3:10:57] Trustee Maude (probable): Yes. Staff advice?

[3:11:04] Voice 10: So just

[3:11:06] Trustee Maude (probable): on the start time for the next meeting?

[3:11:08] Trustee Maude (probable): no whatever trustee harris is asking about that he'd request a closed session

[3:11:11] Trustee Maude (probable): okay um to

[3:11:14] Trustee Maude (probable): deal with correspondence that we receive i

[3:11:15] Voice 10: mean

[3:11:16] Voice 11: you don't have to keep the

[3:11:18] Voice 11: the regular meeting open i suggest that you you can you can simply close this meeting and then

[3:11:24] conduct a

[3:11:24] Voice 11: your closed session um that would be that would be fine um but i would suggest

[3:11:31] Voice 11: to wrap the agenda and move on with that all right okay

[3:11:35] Trustee Maude (probable): so sure all right so what we're gonna we're

[3:11:38] Trustee Maude (probable): gonna need the motion if you can take it out to go in a closed session oh

[3:11:42] Voice 11: um sure what is it um

[3:11:44] Voice 11: i need to know when it's regarding um like generally uh by law enforcement file the

[3:11:53] Voice 11: The file enforcement can get you

[3:11:55] Voice 14: the next meeting.

[3:11:56] Trustee Maude (probable): Yes, we were just coming to. Yeah, I can just. Okay. So you'll, you'll, you'll find the motion email it to us. All right. So now we'll now we'll talk about upcoming meetings.

[3:12:06] Trustee Maude (probable): So, the next regular meeting of the salesman on local Christmas is scheduled for 11 o'clock. I know chair Peterson has requested that be 1230.

[3:12:17] Trustee Maude (probable): The space is available on

[3:12:19] Voice 11: November 2nd. We can confirm that with the Legion. So yeah,

[3:12:23] Voice 11: I would suggest that you move that back to 12.30. Did you say you said 11? I'd suggest

[3:12:29] Voice 11: that 12.30 is probably a more reasonable time just for, I think that I'll be arriving a

[3:12:35] Voice 11: little bit later in the morning. I'll be back with everybody else. So yeah, that's pretty

[3:12:41] Voice 11: much my uh my advice to you um i would also want to make sure i think um we could take

[3:12:49] Voice 11: i really would agree that we would do the uh public or the town hall uh at the end of that

[3:12:57] Voice 11: meeting because we would be near the uh the end of the birthday or possibly so give people the

[3:13:02] Voice 11: chance that you don't always get to come at nine in the morning to do that as well

[3:13:10] Voice 11: So do you need

[3:13:14] Voice 11: a motion, either for the time change or for that, just for the start time

[3:13:18] Voice 11: for me that actually publish that note.

[3:13:22] Trustee Patrick (probable): I move that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee set a

[3:13:29] Voice 23: just

[3:13:30] Trustee Patrick (probable): start time or just the

[3:13:31] Trustee Patrick (probable): start time for November 6 2025 regular meeting to 11 1230.

[3:13:37] Trustee Patrick (probable): I

[3:13:39] Voice 11: also ask you to request that staff notify and

[3:13:42] Trustee Patrick (probable): request staff to notify the community

[3:13:47] Trustee Maude (probable): so recording secretary you've got that got

[3:13:52] Voice 27: it thank you

[3:13:53] Voice 27: a

[3:13:54] Trustee Maude (probable): second trustee Harris any discussion on that just yeah I'm happy

[3:13:58] Voice 9: to accommodate

[3:13:59] Voice 9: and staff so I'll say so

[3:14:04] Trustee Maude (probable): thank you all right so for the discussion call the question all

[3:14:07] Trustee Maude (probable): That carries. All right. Well, I guess that's what we're doing in Canberra. So thank you very much.

[3:14:16] Voice 9: Thanks, Maxine.

[3:14:17] Voice 9: Have

[3:14:18] Trustee Maude (probable): a good day.

[3:14:20] Trustee Maude (probable): So we will be going in Canberra.

[3:14:27] Voice 11: Can you email

[3:14:31] Trustee Maude (probable): it to us?

[3:14:31] Voice 11: Yeah.

[3:14:32] Trustee Maude (probable): Because Carly wanted to. So we need all the special letters.

[3:14:48] Voice 9: Well, we can't have.

[3:14:49] Trustee Maude (probable): Yeah, we'd have to close the shutters.

[3:14:53] Trustee Maude (probable): You can do that prep work, please.

[3:14:55] Trustee Maude (probable): So, yeah, then sort of secure the front door, all that good stuff.

[3:15:01] Voice 9: We're about to go and close the session.

[3:15:04] Voice 9: I don't have the respect to leave.

[3:15:08] Voice 29: Thank you.

[3:15:09] Voice 29: Good to see you.

[3:15:09] Voice 29: Thank you.

[3:15:13] We

[3:15:40] Trustee Maude (probable): have to do the motion for the subject.

[3:16:36] Voice 29: We'll close.

[3:18:44] Trustee Maude (probable): Okay, so we have a motion before us to go in camera.

[3:18:48] Trustee Patrick (probable): I move that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee

[3:18:50] Trustee Patrick (probable): close this meeting to the public subject

[3:18:52] Trustee Patrick (probable): to community charter section 91F

[3:18:54] Trustee Patrick (probable): and that staff be invited to remain.

[3:18:57] Trustee Maude (probable): Second.

[3:18:58] Trustee Maude (probable): Trustee Harris, any further discussion?

[3:19:00] Trustee Maude (probable): Call the question on paper.

[3:19:01] Trustee Maude (probable): That carries.

[3:19:03] Trustee Maude (probable): So we're going in camera.

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   Salt Spring Local Trust Committee 
Minutes of Regular Meeting 
 
Date:  
 
Location:  
October 16, 2025 
 
Meaden Hall 
120 Blain Road, Salt Spring Island  
 
Members Present: David Maude, Alternate Chair 
Jamie Harris, Local Trustee 
Laura Patrick, Local Trustee 
 
Members Regrets: Timothy Peterson, Chair  
  
Staff Present: Chris Hutton, Regional Planning Manager 
 Stefan Cermak, Director of Planning Services 
 Alexandra Trifonidis, Executive Coordinator (electronic) 
Carly Bilney, Recorder (electronic) 
  
Others Present: There were 28 members of the public present. 
 
1. CALL TO ORDER 
Chair Maude called the meeting to order at 9:48 a.m. He acknowledged that the meeting 
was being held in the territory of the Coast Salish First Nations. 
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 
The following additions to the agenda were presented for consideration: 
• 16.1 Follow up on Visit with Minister Boyle, Housing and Municipal Affairs 
• 16.2 Discussion of Next Steps post-Public Hearings 
Concern was expressed that the Canada Post strike action has impacted notification 
procedures and Trustees may be criticized for proceeding with the public hearings. 
Discussion ensued and staff outlined different options including adjourning the public 
hearings to the November Local Trust Committee Meeting or holding second public 
hearings. A Trustee expressed opposition to holding additional public hearings and delaying 
the process. 
By general consent, the agenda was approved as amended. 
3. TOWN HALL AND QUESTIONS 
Town Hall was held and the following comments were made: 

 
 
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• A member of the public expressed concern about water issues related to 
PLRZ20250220 (Kings Lane) and noted wells in the area are not producing enough water 
• A member of the public representing Gulf Islands Seniors Residence Association spoke 
to an inconsistency in the wording of the Kings Lane proposed bylaw and expressed 
hope that it can be resolved between second and third readings 
• A member of the public expressed objection to comments made by a Trustee at the 
previous meeting on a topic that does not relate to the Islands Trust or its mandate; the 
Chair advised that such concerns are not within the purview of the LTC and that 
concerns can be raised with the Trustee 
• A member of the public representing Positively Forward spoke to a petition being 
circulated about the Official Community Plan Land Use Bylaw review and requested 
that the petition be put on the Islands Trust website; a Trustee commented that there 
are currently no changes to the Official Community Plan being considered 
• A member of the public commented that members of the Project Advisory Planning 
Commission were concerned that the engagement survey had been circulated before it 
was reviewed by Commissioners  
• A member of the public expressed concern about recent bylaw enforcement against 
their short-term rental and commented that the rental is their primary financial support 
and contributes positively to the island  
• The Planner noted the Islands Trust, Capital Regional District and Chamber of 
Commerce is working together to distribute more information on short-term rentals, 
and residents can reach out to staff with questions in the meantime  
4. DELEGATIONS – None 
5. TRUSTEE REPORTS  
Trustee Harris reported that the draft Policy Statement has had first reading and 
encouraged community members to consider its impact on the community and share their 
feedback. 
Trustee Patrick reported: 
• Staff did their job by providing information and suggesting recommendations on the 
Lady Minto Hospital Foundation and Heartwood House, and Trustees made the 
decision to proceed with the project 
• Executive Committee members met with Minister Boyle to discuss Trust Council 
strategic plans 
• Spoke at the pride parade and encouraged audience members to run for office 
• Chaired two Executive Committee meetings  
• Expressed praise for the Gabriola Island Recycling Organization 
• Attended a meeting to discuss shared issues among ferry-dependent communities  
• Attended a Survivors’ Flag raising ceremony at Government House and the Legislature 
• Attended the Union of BC Municipalities Convention and met with Minister of Water, 
Land and Resource Stewardship Randene Neill and Housing and Municipal Affairs staff 
• Attended a gathering with Elders and members of Penelakut Tribe at Fernwood Dock 
and heard stories about residential school experiences  
• Attended the Howe Sound Forum  
• Minister Boyle visited Salt Spring and gained a better understanding of the current 
housing challenges 

 
 
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6.  CHAIR’S REPORT 
Chair Maude reported: 
• Attended Trust Council Meeting on Gabriola Island 
• The Trust Policy Statement has received first reading and is now out for public 
consultation; the new draft will be informed by commentary from members of the 
public who are encouraged to share feedback   
• The Islands Trust webinar series related to stewardship education is available online as 
an informative resource for islanders  
7.  CRD DIRECTOR’S REPORT – None 
8.  PREVIOUS MEETINGS 
8.1 Draft Minutes of the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee  
8.1.1 Draft Minutes of the September 11, 2025 SSI LTC Regular Meeting  
The following amendment to the agenda was presented for consideration: 
• On page 10 of the minutes (page 13 of the agenda) under Item 14.5: 
Change “A Trustee noted that any future expansion activity may not be 
supported by the community at this location due to the property size 
and parking needs.” to: “A Trustee asked staff if there were concerns the 
applicants were reaching a limit to their parking and staff commented 
that there were none.”  
By general consent, the Minutes of the September 11, 2025 Salt 
Spring Island Local Trust Committee Regular Meeting were approved 
as amended. 
8.2  Resolutions Without Meeting Report - None  
8.3  Draft Minutes of the Advisory Planning Commissions  
8.3.1 Draft Minutes of the September 18, 2025 SS PAPC Meeting   
The Planner reviewed the draft minutes and noted that Commissioners 
expressed dissatisfaction with the engagement process. 
By general consent, further discussion was tabled so the meeting 
could move to the Public Hearing at Item 13.1 on agenda. 
The meeting was recessed for a break at 10:33 a.m. and reconvened at 10:38 a.m.  
13. PUBLIC HEARING 
13.1 SS-RZ-2019.1 - N. Williams - 248 Upper Ganges Rd, SSI 
Public hearing binder can be found here: SS-BL-543_2025-10- 
02_PublicHearingBinder.pdf 
The meeting was recessed for Public Hearing at 10:40 a.m. and was recalled to order at 11:29 a.m. 
8.3.1 Draft Minutes of the September 18, 2025 SS PAPC Meeting   

 
 
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Discussion continued and the following comments were made: 
• Commissioners make a valid point that the survey should have been 
reviewed before it was distributed 
• Consultants will review everything that will be received 
• The process will provide the opportunity to rectify issues with the survey 
if needed 
8.3.2  Draft Minutes of the September 25, 2025 SS APC Meeting  
Received for information.  
8.3.3  Draft Minutes of the September 25, 2025 SS AAPC Meeting  
Received for information. 
8.4  Local Trust Committee Public Hearing Record – None 
The meeting was recessed for a break at 11:35 a.m. and reconvened at 12:00 p.m. 
The agenda was re-ordered and item 13.2 was heard following item 8.4. 
13. PUBLIC HEARING 
13.2  PLRZ20240188 - D. Ovington - 210 Kanaka Rd, SSI 
Public hearing binder can be found here: SS-BL-544-545_2025-10- 
02_PublicHearingBinder.pdf 
The meeting was recessed for Public Hearing at 12:00 p.m. and was recalled to order at 12:09 p.m. 
9. CORRESPONDENCE 
9.1  J. Roe to LTC Email - Dated Sep 19th 2025 - Regarding Used Oil Recycling Crisis  
Received for information.  
9.2  M. Leichter to C. Hutton Email – Dated Sep 2nd 2025 - Regarding Positively 
Forward - Housing Report   
Received for information. 
10.  BUSINESS ARISING FROM MINUTES 
10.1 Follow-Up Action List  
Received for information. 
11.  WORK PROGRAM  
11.1 Active Projects List  
Received for information.  
11.2  Future Projects List  
Received for information.  

 
 
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12. COMMUNITY INFORMATION MEETING – None 
13. PUBLIC HEARING 
In order to adhere to the scheduled times for the public hearings item 13.1 was heard 
following item 8.3 and item 13.2 was heard following item 8.4 
 
14. APPLICATIONS AND REFERRALS 
14.1 PLRZ20250220 - J. Gauthier - 154 Kings Lane, SSI 
The Planner summarized the staff report and noted that Tsawout First Nation has 
indicated it would like to provide comment on the application, and a referral 
response will ideally come in November.  
Discussion ensued and the following comments were made: 
• In response to a question from a Trustee, the Planner confirmed that the letter 
received requesting wording clarification in the bylaw will be reviewed by staff 
and brought back at third reading 
• A Trustee acknowledged receipt of new correspondence pertaining to water and 
the watershed  
• In response to a question from the applicant, the Planner noted that a housing 
agreement can be made before adoption of the bylaw, and the housing 
agreement can remain a condition up to the adoption of the bylaw 
• A Trustee recommended that projects should be prioritized for connection to 
the water service. 
 
SS-2025-117 
It was MOVED and SECONDED  
that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee has reviewed the Islands 
Trust Policy Statement Directives Only Checklist and determined that Bylaw 
No. 549 cited as “Salt Spring Island Land Use Bylaw No. 355, 1999, 
Amendment No. 5, 2025” (154 Kings Lane Road) is not contrary to or at 
variance with the Islands Trust Policy Statement. 
CARRIED 
 
SS-2025-118 
It was MOVED and SECONDED  
that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 549 cited as 
“Salt Spring Island Land Use Bylaw No. 355, 1999, Amendment No. 5, 2025”, 
be read a first and second time (PLRZ20250220, 154 Kings Lane Road) 
CARRIED 
 
14.2 PLRZ20240021 - D. Janyk - 355 Blackburn Road  
The Planner summarized the staff report and noted Tsawout First Nation has 
indicated it would like to provide comment on the application. 
  

 
 
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SS-2025-119 
that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No 546 cited as “Salt 
Spring Island Land Use Bylaw No. 355, 1999, Amendment No. 4, 2025”, be 
read a first time (PLRZ20240021, 355 Blackburn Road).  
CARRIED 
 
SS-2025-120 
It was MOVED and SECONDED 
that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No 546 cited as “Salt 
Spring Island Land Use Bylaw No. 355, 1999, Amendment No. 4, 2025,” be 
read a second time (PLRZ20240021, 355 Blackburn Road).  
CARRIED 
 
A Trustee commented that invitations to community information meetings should 
be sent to Trustees and posted to the Islands Trust website. 
 
SS-2025-121 
It was MOVED and SECONDED 
that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee requests staff to schedule 
a Community Information Meeting and Public Hearing for Bylaw No 546, 
cited as “Salt Spring Island Land Use Bylaw No. 355, 1999, Amendment No. 
4, 2025”. 
CARRIED 
 
14.3 PLALR20250198 - R. Stepaniuk - 820 Mount Maxwell Road, SSI 
The Planner reviewed the staff report. A Trustee commented on a need to explicitly 
state support for reasons recommended by the Agricultural Advisory Planning 
Commission. 
SS-2025-122 
It was MOVED and SECONDED  
that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee requests staff to forward 
application PLALR20250198 to the Agricultural Land Commission with 
support for the following reasons: no farmland is being removed and 
supports farm worker dwellings. 
CARRIED 
The meeting break was held at 12:44 and reconvened at 12:54 p.m. 
15.  LOCAL TRUST COMMITTEE PROJECTS - None 
16.  NEW BUSINESS 
16.1 Follow up on Visit with Minister Boyle, Housing and Municipal Affairs 
Comments were made that Minister Boyle had asked questions related to data and 
there is opportunity to continue dialogue that may result in better chances to get 
funding for housing projects. A Trustee suggested the Local Trust Committee 
prepare a letter to thank Minister Boyle for visiting and ask what kind of data and 
collection methodology would be useful to support the Ministry.  

 
 
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SS-2025-123 
It was MOVED and SECONDED  
that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee requests a letter from the 
Chair of Trust Council thanking the Minister of Housing and Municipal Affairs 
for her visit to Salt Spring Island and seeking to work with the Ministry on 
housing needs data. 
CARRIED 
Trustee Harris Opposed 
 
Discussion on the motion was held and the following comments were made: 
• A Trustee expressed opposition to the motion and noted it is already known 
that a housing assessment is needed 
• A Trustee noted there is lots of work to do on housing and anything that can be 
done to help get funding support in place is beneficial 
• A Trustee suggested a referendum on the Islands Trust should be sought from 
the Province rather than funding for housing 
 
16.2 Discussion of Next Steps post-Public Hearings 
16.2.1 Discussion of Next Steps for Bylaw Nos. 544 and 555 
SS-2025-124 
It was MOVED and SECONDED 
that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 544, cited as 
“Salt Spring Island Official Community Plan No. 434, 2008, Amendment No. 
1, 2025” be read a third time. 
CARRIED 
 
SS-2025-125 
It was MOVED and SECONDED 
that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 555, cited as 
“Salt Spring Island Land Use Bylaw No. 545, 1999, Amendment No. 3, 2025” 
be read a third time. 
CARRIED 
 
SS-2025-126 
It was MOVED and SECONDED 
that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee proposed Bylaw No. 544 
and No. 545 be forwarded to the Secretary of the Islands Trust for Executive 
Committee for approval. 
CARRIED 
 
SS-2025-127 
It was MOVED and SECONDED 
that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 544, be 
forwarded to the Minister of Housing and Municipal Affairs for approval. 
CARRIED 
  

 
 
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16.2.2 Discussion of Next Steps for Bylaw No. 543 
Trustees discussed proceeding with a third reading of Bylaw No. 543, but 
the matter was deferred because the Policy Statement Directives Checklist 
was not yet complete. 
17.  REPORTS  
17.1 Policy and Standing Resolutions List  
Received for information.  
17.2 Open Applications Report 
Received for information. The following comments were made: 
• In response to a question from a Trustee, staff indicated PLSDP20240344 (116 
Cypress View Road) will be reviewed imminently 
• In response to a question from a Trustee, staff indicated that work with the 
Director of Finance will be carried out as necessary to refund an applicant if 
they are qualified 
• A Trustee noted the bylaws for the Capital Regional District will need to proceed 
at the next meeting because the Policy Statement Checklist was incomplete 
17.3  Expense Report  
Received for information. 
17.4  Islands Trust Conservancy Board Report – None 
 
18. UPCOMING MEETINGS 
A Trustee requested to change the start time for the next regular meeting of the Salt Spring 
Island Local Trust Committee on November 06, 2025 at the Legion Meaden Hall, 120 Blain 
Road, Salt Spring Island.  
SS-2025-128 
It was MOVED and SECONDED 
that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee adjust the start time for 
November 6, 2025 regular meeting to 12:30 p.m. and request that staff notifies 
the community. 
CARRIED 
 
SS-2025-129 
It was MOVED and SECONDED 
that the meeting be closed to the public in accordance with the Community 
Charter, Part 4, Division 3, s. 90(1)(f) and that staff be invited to remain. 
CARRIED 
  

 
 
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19. ADJOURNMENT 
By general consent the meeting was adjourned at 1:18 p.m. 
 
_________________________ 
David Maude, Chair 
 
Certified Correct: 
 
_________________________ 
Carly Bilney, Recorder