Gambier Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, July 21, 2026

[0:00:12] Trustee Patrick (probable): Everything all ready? All right. Well, good morning. Good morning. I'm going to call this

[0:00:23] Trustee Patrick (probable): regular meeting of the Gambier-Keats Local Trust Committee to order. We are live streaming and

[0:00:28] Trustee Patrick (probable): we're recording, and the recording will be available in a few days. I begin by acknowledging

[0:00:33] Trustee Patrick (probable): with respect and humility that the lands and waters of the Gambier-Keats Local Trust Area

[0:00:37] Trustee Patrick (probable): have been home to Indigenous people since time immemorial. Their deep connection to these

[0:00:42] Trustee Patrick (probable): these islands continues to this day, and we honor their enduring presence, constitutional rights,

[0:00:47] Trustee Patrick (probable): and responsibilities. I would have had it with my hand so I could have held it up here. I brought

[0:00:53] Trustee Patrick (probable): it last time, but I really encourage everyone to read George Abbott's book called Unseated,

[0:00:59] Trustee Patrick (probable): Understanding British Columbia's Colonial Past and Why It Matters Now. I loan my book out to

[0:01:04] Trustee Patrick (probable): so many people to read it is such a good book to read and uh really helps um uh really understand

[0:01:13] Trustee Patrick (probable): today um i'm laura patrick i am elected on salt spring i'm the chair of this local trust committee

[0:01:19] Trustee Patrick (probable): i am joined by joe bernardo who we can see but he is here uh so joe is in uh terrace bc joining

[0:01:26] Trustee Patrick (probable): us today and and also trustee kate louis stanford who's in the room um we uh together we are your

[0:01:33] Trustee Patrick (probable): local trust committee and we have a number of staff that are joining us in in the room we have

[0:01:39] Trustee Patrick (probable): marlis mccarger uh online we have um sorry we have so uh dd mclean is going to be helping us

[0:01:50] Trustee Patrick (probable): with the minutes lisa millard is in the background as well so helping keep the minutes keep the

[0:01:56] Trustee Patrick (probable): meeting running smoothly uh we have uh senior indigenous advisor joe elliott is online and i

[0:02:02] Trustee Patrick (probable): I know later we'll be joined by Sonia Zupanek and I think our regional planning manager,

[0:02:09] Trustee Patrick (probable): Renee Jamretz, will be joining us online.

[0:02:11] Trustee Patrick (probable): So thank you to the staff for helping us run a nice and smooth meeting.

[0:02:17] Trustee Patrick (probable): This meeting is an official forum for your local trust committee to make decisions about

[0:02:22] Trustee Patrick (probable): land use planning matters and to discuss relevant business.

[0:02:25] Trustee Patrick (probable): This is also a place of employment and our staff have the right to a safe and respectful

[0:02:29] Trustee Patrick (probable): workplace.

[0:02:29] Trustee Patrick (probable): place. In a few moments, there will be an opportunity for you to talk, and I'll introduce

[0:02:34] Trustee Patrick (probable): that when we get to it. So first, I'm going to look, it has a rise in report first. I'm going

[0:02:42] Trustee Patrick (probable): to rise and report from our regular meeting from May 26th, that the January 27th in-camera

[0:02:50] Trustee Patrick (probable): meeting minutes were adopted, and that Jack Woodward, George, Bob Byer, however you say his

[0:02:57] Trustee Patrick (probable): name, Catherine Burge, were appointed to serve on the Gambier Board of Variants for a three-year

[0:03:04] Trustee Patrick (probable): term commencing May 26. Trustees, we have an agenda before us. Are there any additions or

[0:03:12] Trustee Patrick (probable): changes to the agenda?

[0:03:14] Trustee Stamford (probable): No. I just want to, if you could just clarify, there's proponents for the

[0:03:18] Trustee Stamford (probable): variance applications. When do they get to speak?

[0:03:22] Trustee Patrick (probable): I'll do that when we have the public period. I'll

[0:03:23] Trustee Patrick (probable): remind them on that. I'm just going to get the agenda. Okay. So if there's no changes,

[0:03:28] Trustee Patrick (probable): can we approve the agenda through general consent? Thank you. So we're going to go on

[0:03:34] Trustee Patrick (probable): to reports. I can start with you, Joe, if you want. Kate Louise was just picking up a copy

[0:03:41] Trustee Patrick (probable): of the agenda. So this is a trustee report. It's over to you, Trustee Bernardo. Well,

[0:03:48] Voice 5: Trustee Sanford has a limited time to tread water because I actually have nothing to report.

[0:03:51] Voice 5: all

[0:03:52] Trustee Patrick (probable): right well thank you uh trustee stamford

[0:03:56] Trustee Stamford (probable): um if it's okay uh chair so much of the stuff i do is

[0:04:02] Trustee Stamford (probable): sort of half trustee half regional district so i'm just gonna

[0:04:06] Trustee Stamford (probable): go ahead and combine with the

[0:04:07] Trustee Stamford (probable): combination um i always like to start with docks because that's always front and center uh west bay

[0:04:14] Trustee Stamford (probable): dock um it the new float is scheduled to be installed somewhere between august 17th and

[0:04:21] Trustee Stamford (probable): september 2nd so i'll find out more specific times um and how that impacts any mercury

[0:04:28] Trustee Stamford (probable): pickup drop-offs because i'm not sure um how long it'll actually be disappeared um but that's good

[0:04:37] Trustee Stamford (probable): news and there's a number of um major repairs coming up for the other most of the other docks

[0:04:43] Trustee Stamford (probable): on Gambier, so I'll be providing a written update on those.

[0:04:49] Trustee Stamford (probable): And just a reminder,

[0:04:50] Trustee Stamford (probable): those docks are Halkett, Port Graves,

[0:04:58] Trustee Stamford (probable): West Bay, and Gambier Harbor.

[0:05:03] Trustee Stamford (probable): Eastbourne Community Water System is being moved to Stage 3

[0:05:08] Trustee Stamford (probable): water restrictions.

[0:05:10] Trustee Stamford (probable): Although that community is used to having the Eastbourne and Zonkitz,

[0:05:15] Trustee Stamford (probable): although that community is used to having water restrictions I suspect this is earlier than normal

[0:05:22] Trustee Stamford (probable): and I'm just trying to find out a bit more they have been informed as a

[0:05:30] Trustee Stamford (probable): service service they have a service with the regional district so they have been informed

[0:05:38] Trustee Stamford (probable): as individuals as part of that function that's coming into effect um i'm just uh one of the new

[0:05:47] Trustee Stamford (probable): things that's happening on the sunshine coast is uh government response to the lack of fairy

[0:05:55] Trustee Stamford (probable): advisory committees has come up the gibsons um community of gibsons has come up with a standing

[0:06:02] Trustee Stamford (probable): committee for a way of responding to Route 3.

[0:06:06] Trustee Stamford (probable): So I've joined that, partly because Route 13 doesn't have a ferry advisory committee

[0:06:12] Trustee Stamford (probable): anymore, and I want to focus on the parking, access to the terminal, anything to do with

[0:06:18] Trustee Stamford (probable): the terminal, and anything to do with other connecting routes to Route 3, including Route

[0:06:24] Trustee Stamford (probable): 13 and Route 7.

[0:06:26] Trustee Stamford (probable): So I'm hoping to get more traction on that.

[0:06:29] Trustee Stamford (probable): It's a way of bringing ideas together for how to move ahead with the ongoing

[0:06:35] Trustee Stamford (probable): BC Ferries debacle.

[0:06:37] Trustee Stamford (probable): And I will be working, I'm talking to Susan Yates on Gabriola to see how we

[0:06:45] Trustee Stamford (probable): can coordinate with their efforts as well.

[0:06:50] Trustee Stamford (probable): One of the other things we're doing on the mainland is OCP harmonization.

[0:06:57] Trustee Stamford (probable): So on the mainland, the South China Coast mainland, there are seven official community plans.

[0:07:03] Trustee Stamford (probable): We're trying to harmonize them into one.

[0:07:06] Trustee Stamford (probable): That's an ongoing process.

[0:07:08] Trustee Stamford (probable): It's iterative.

[0:07:10] Trustee Stamford (probable): There's a lot to pack in because unlike this island, there are requirements for Bill 44, which is housing requirements and densities.

[0:07:20] Trustee Stamford (probable): So how do we fit those regulations into our official community plan and land use bylaws?

[0:07:26] Trustee Stamford (probable): us that's one of our challenges with that um another uh looking at other things five six and

[0:07:33] Trustee Stamford (probable): then i'll just i could go on for hours but i don't want to bore you because a lot of it is just more

[0:07:39] Trustee Stamford (probable): to do with the mainland the only other thing is good news the sunshine coast regional hospital

[0:07:47] Trustee Stamford (probable): district which i am a member of as a part of the scrd board you're also a member of the

[0:07:55] Trustee Stamford (probable): the hospital district, we've just released over a million dollars to the hospice, the Mossy Rock

[0:08:03] Trustee Stamford (probable): Hospice Project in Roberts Creek. And that is locally generated project, very local because

[0:08:10] Trustee Stamford (probable): there's members of Gambier that have been working on that project. But it's really exciting. It's

[0:08:18] Trustee Stamford (probable): It's going to be a beautiful facility that will help provide more support

[0:08:24] Trustee Stamford (probable): for those end-of-life scenarios and move people that are currently

[0:08:28] Trustee Stamford (probable): inappropriately housed in hospitals into a more conducive environment.

[0:08:34] Trustee Stamford (probable): So we're really excited about that.

[0:08:35] Trustee Stamford (probable): I thought it'd be good to end on something positive.

[0:08:38] Trustee Stamford (probable): And I'm happy to – any questions, Joe?

[0:08:43] Trustee Stamford (probable): Anything I missed?

[0:08:44] Trustee Stamford (probable): No?

[0:08:45] Trustee Stamford (probable): No.

[0:08:46] Voice 12: Okay.

[0:08:47] Voice 12: So I'll leave it at that.

[0:08:48] Trustee Patrick (probable): All right. I don't have a lot to report other than that tomorrow, the Trust Council will be meeting as a committee of the whole. This is to review the agency referral responses to the draft trust policy statement.

[0:09:05] Trustee Patrick (probable): So that's the purpose for tomorrow. They're not proposing any changes to the document at this time, but to take some time to really understand what agencies said to us when they responded.

[0:09:18] Trustee Patrick (probable): And then Trust Council next will meet September 9th through 11th.

[0:09:23] Trustee Patrick (probable): It's virtual.

[0:09:24] Trustee Patrick (probable): It's online.

[0:09:25] Trustee Patrick (probable): Usually it's on the 9th of late afternoon is the public comment period.

[0:09:32] Trustee Patrick (probable): You're always welcome to watch three days of meetings if you have nothing else better to do, but everything is recorded.

[0:09:38] Trustee Patrick (probable): But the agenda is usually out a week in advance, and you can see what's on, and you can always come in and out if you've got something of interest.

[0:09:44] Trustee Patrick (probable): and you can only speak to us during the public comment period if you want to have a little bit

[0:09:49] Trustee Patrick (probable): more time there's something called a delegation but you need to apply over three weeks in advance

[0:09:53] Trustee Patrick (probable): so you've got to get on that if you want to spend some additional time with the talking to

[0:10:00] Trustee Patrick (probable): addressing trust counsel so with that i'm going to now move to the public comment period which

[0:10:07] Trustee Patrick (probable): is your opportunity to speak as chair and together with your local trustees it's my responsibility to

[0:10:14] Trustee Patrick (probable): ensure that this meeting is respectful inclusive and culturally safe space for staff trustees and

[0:10:19] Trustee Patrick (probable): all attendings including those who may be watching online that means we will speak respectfully

[0:10:27] Trustee Patrick (probable): we will acknowledge concerns without causing harm we will uphold cultural safety and we'll keep the

[0:10:35] Trustee Patrick (probable): conversation constructive and i really want to thank you in advance for helping to create an

[0:10:40] Trustee Patrick (probable): environment where all participants feel safe and valued. I do want to clarify the scope of today's

[0:10:45] Trustee Patrick (probable): meeting. We do understand that some people may have questions or concerns related to the draft

[0:10:50] Trustee Patrick (probable): land use objective order associated with the implementation of the 2025 Squamish Nation

[0:10:57] Trustee Patrick (probable): British Columbia land use planning agreement. The public engagement process for the proposed

[0:11:03] Trustee Patrick (probable): order recently concluded and we recognize that community members may continue to have questions

[0:11:08] Trustee Patrick (probable): about the proposal and the potential implications.

[0:11:12] Trustee Patrick (probable): However, this matter is outside the jurisdiction

[0:11:15] Trustee Patrick (probable): of the Islands Trust,

[0:11:16] Trustee Patrick (probable): and it is not a matter before the Local Trust Committee.

[0:11:20] Trustee Patrick (probable): The proposed land use objective order

[0:11:22] Trustee Patrick (probable): is being considered by the province

[0:11:24] Trustee Patrick (probable): under the provincial legislation.

[0:11:26] Trustee Patrick (probable): It described by the province the proposed objectives

[0:11:29] Trustee Patrick (probable): are intended to guide forest stewardship

[0:11:32] Trustee Patrick (probable): and resource management activities

[0:11:34] Trustee Patrick (probable): within the identified planning area,

[0:11:36] Trustee Patrick (probable): including the protection of indigenous cultural values, old-growth forests, biodiversity, watershed health, and environmental values.

[0:11:45] Trustee Patrick (probable): Because the Islands Trust is not a decision-maker for this process, individuals wishing to provide feedback or seek further information are encouraged to contact the province directly.

[0:12:00] Trustee Patrick (probable): So, let's see.

[0:12:04] Trustee Patrick (probable): So, today, like I said, this is your opportunity to speak.

[0:12:06] Trustee Patrick (probable): We welcome questions and comments.

[0:12:08] Trustee Patrick (probable): If you're the applicant for what's before us today, you're going to have lots of time to talk to us directly later in the agenda during the application.

[0:12:15] Trustee Patrick (probable): So you don't need to address us and don't feel you have to respond if other people are talking to you.

[0:12:21] Trustee Patrick (probable): You can come back and draw on that at your time.

[0:12:25] Trustee Patrick (probable): But for those of you who are not the applicants and you want to say something about an application, this is your time to speak.

[0:12:32] Trustee Patrick (probable): speak we'll only be interacting with the applicant and staff during their part of the agenda but

[0:12:38] Trustee Patrick (probable): if you want to talk about an application and you're not the applicant this is the time to speak

[0:12:43] Trustee Patrick (probable): when addressing the local trust committee please direct your comments to the committee to us

[0:12:47] Trustee Patrick (probable): elected folks not to staff or the audience speak to issues not individuals be clear concise and

[0:12:54] Trustee Patrick (probable): respectful and we always reframe clapping or booing or other any other disruptions but everyone to

[0:13:00] Trustee Patrick (probable): feel safe to talk their points. We're here to hear you. I'll interrupt if any comments are

[0:13:07] Trustee Patrick (probable): outside of scope of today's agenda. And with that, I now open up the public comment period.

[0:13:12] Trustee Patrick (probable): If you wish to speak, always begin by stating your name. And who wants to address us today?

[0:13:22] Trustee Patrick (probable): Well, that'll make it even shorter. I should have asked that first before I talked.

[0:13:25] Voice 12: i have a question go ahead

[0:13:27] Voice 12: i understand that trustee stamford's time or period is closing

[0:13:32] Voice 12: with us is that right are you i

[0:13:35] Trustee Stamford (probable): am i am pulling back from my service as a trustee that's my intent

[0:13:41] Trustee Stamford (probable): yeah i

[0:13:41] Voice 12: want to say thank you for your time again here thank you and i was curious like what the

[0:13:46] Voice 12: process is like so that we just i wanted to know what to expect um as that transition happens

[0:13:53] Trustee Patrick (probable): Well, as candidates or election, I mean, there will be an election coming October 17th.

[0:14:01] Trustee Patrick (probable): OK, if there are people who are thinking about being a candidate, they don't have to be there.

[0:14:06] Trustee Patrick (probable): The Islands Trust will have a webinar. I don't have the date.

[0:14:10] Trustee Patrick (probable): I'll see if I can get that before the end or it should be on our website.

[0:14:15] Trustee Patrick (probable): There will be a webinar for potential candidates to fully understand the job,

[0:14:20] Trustee Patrick (probable): what's involved the times and uh and all of that uh well in advance of the um uh the nomination

[0:14:27] Trustee Patrick (probable): period there is a link already on

[0:14:31] Trustee Stamford (probable): the um on

[0:14:32] Trustee Patrick (probable): the website and this

[0:14:33] Trustee Stamford (probable): trust and um for this area

[0:14:36] Trustee Stamford (probable): applications go to the uh srd on field road they they run the election on our behalf okay

[0:14:44] Planner (probable): the webinar is august 20th and i

[0:14:48] Trustee Patrick (probable): know the province is having a webinar for perspective

[0:14:51] Trustee Patrick (probable): now that's for everybody so whether it's your electoral area directors mayors or island trustees

[0:14:57] Trustee Patrick (probable): but there'll be a i think it's on the 28th so if you go to bc elections website there is a webinar

[0:15:04] Trustee Patrick (probable): on just the whole election process from all the requirements on candidates from from a bc election

[0:15:12] Trustee Patrick (probable): standpoint. So there's a lot of information out there. You have to work a little bit, but

[0:15:16] Trustee Patrick (probable): I do encourage you to, if you know people who are good candidates, you know, encourage them to at

[0:15:21] Trustee Patrick (probable): least start listening and hearing about what's involved. And because the more they know, the

[0:15:27] Trustee Patrick (probable): better they'll be positioned to make a decision. All right. Yes.

[0:15:36] Voice 12: Will you be continuing as the

[0:15:38] Voice 12: the SCRD? It

[0:15:39] Trustee Stamford (probable): depends on the electorate, but

[0:15:44] Voice 12: I

[0:15:46] Trustee Stamford (probable): intend to run again as SCRD area for representative.

[0:15:51] Trustee Stamford (probable): I like representing you all. I like representing the mainland. It's interesting work. It's good

[0:16:01] Trustee Stamford (probable): good work. All

[0:16:03] Trustee Patrick (probable): right. Any other questions or comments? No. All right. Well, thank you very

[0:16:10] Trustee Patrick (probable): much. Your comments and information are always important. You can reach us. You can email us

[0:16:16] Trustee Patrick (probable): at northinfo at islandstrust.bc.ca or contact your trustees. Always want to hear from you.

[0:16:23] Trustee Patrick (probable): What you have to say is important. Okay. I'm going to keep on going then with our agenda as

[0:16:29] Trustee Patrick (probable): we've got business to go to we have our minutes from the may 26 meeting on page four of the agenda

[0:16:37] Trustee Patrick (probable): package um are there any additions or changes to the minutes go ahead i have

[0:16:43] Trustee Stamford (probable): one i'm just getting

[0:16:44] Trustee Stamford (probable): down there so on page uh five of the minutes under the section public participation period

[0:16:58] Trustee Stamford (probable): At the bottom of the second paragraph, there's a discussion about speaking to an issue about lots on Keats surveyed in 1911.

[0:17:07] Trustee Stamford (probable): The discussion was actually about lots on Gambier.

[0:17:11] Trustee Stamford (probable): The person that was speaking is from Keats, but she was referring to a historical situation on Gambier.

[0:17:21] Trustee Stamford (probable): So if that can be changed.

[0:17:24] Trustee Stamford (probable): And other than that, I have no other adjustments to these minutes.

[0:17:28] Trustee Stamford (probable): Okay,

[0:17:28] Trustee Patrick (probable): I just wanted to look to staff. Did you understand that change?

[0:17:35] Voice 8: Yes, thank you, Chair Patrick. I've got that.

[0:17:37] Trustee Patrick (probable): Thank you. Sorry, I was just going to, oh, I can't get out of my, sorry.

[0:17:42] Trustee Patrick (probable): Now what did I touch? Okay, stop touching the screen.

[0:17:45] Trustee Patrick (probable): I'm sorry that it's going to keep beeping, but it's going to beep every time I get an email.

[0:17:49] Trustee Patrick (probable): All right. Any other changes to the minutes?

[0:17:56] Trustee Patrick (probable): Not seeing any. Can we approve the minutes as amended through general consent?

[0:18:01] Trustee Patrick (probable): Okay, thank you. The next thing we have is the follow-up action list, beginning on page 11. Are there any additions or changes to the follow-up action list? Or any questions, I guess? Or anything, staff?

[0:18:20] Trustee Patrick (probable): Go ahead.

[0:18:20] Trustee Stamford (probable): Just because I have the chance, I would really like to see the aquifer and groundwater recharge mapping someday.

[0:18:30] Trustee Stamford (probable): I would really like to see that.

[0:18:33] Trustee Stamford (probable): It's critically important.

[0:18:36] Voice 12: Not

[0:18:36] Trustee Stamford (probable): so much on Gambier, although it is.

[0:18:39] Trustee Stamford (probable): Other islands really depend on seeing new data to help them manage their water.

[0:18:47] Trustee Stamford (probable): So someday, I'll be looking forward to seeing that.

[0:18:52] Trustee Stamford (probable): Other than that, everything seems to be moving through.

[0:18:58] Trustee Patrick (probable): If you are, I think it's the Regional Planning Committee on Friday this week.

[0:19:04] Trustee Patrick (probable): If you look at their agenda package, I think our freshwater specialist presents the work that's been done on Gabriola that they're calling a freshwater footprint and how that looks as it

[0:19:16] Trustee Patrick (probable): comes into it.

[0:19:17] Trustee Patrick (probable): So it's an interesting process, but it's good to understand because I think that's the intent.

[0:19:22] Trustee Patrick (probable): Well, see what it

[0:19:23] Trustee Patrick (probable): looks like anyway.

[0:19:24] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yeah.

[0:19:25] Trustee Patrick (probable): Okay.

[0:19:25] Trustee Patrick (probable): Any other questions on the follow-up action list?

[0:19:29] Trustee Patrick (probable): I'm not seeing any.

[0:19:30] Trustee Patrick (probable): I'm going to keep on moving then now or at the applications and referrals.

[0:19:35] Trustee Patrick (probable): So if we're ready, we're going to start with item 10.1.

[0:19:40] Trustee Patrick (probable): This is a development variance permit, 2026-0083, and a development permit, 2026-0206.

[0:19:51] Trustee Patrick (probable): There's a staff report on page 14 of the agenda package.

[0:19:58] Trustee Patrick (probable): Are you presenting that?

[0:19:59] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yes.

[0:20:00] Trustee Patrick (probable): So

[0:20:00] Planner (probable): this application relates to proposed construction of an addition at an existing building at 507 Shawanby Road.

[0:20:07] Planner (probable): The property is located within DPA number 3, which requires a DP due to the presence of a watercourse on the property.

[0:20:16] Planner (probable): So the applicants provided an environmental assessment.

[0:20:19] Planner (probable): The assessment reviewed the on-site pond and ditches and identified them as man-made ephemeral features that are not connected to fish-bearing waters.

[0:20:28] Planner (probable): The assessment recommended maintaining a 2-meter buffer from these features to protect water quality and minimize potential impacts during construction.

[0:20:35] Planner (probable): Staff reviewed the proposal and are satisfied that it meets the guidelines for DEA 3.

[0:20:42] Planner (probable): The proposed addition is located outside of the recommended buffer area and the environmental measures identified in the assessment address the intent of the riparian protection requirements.

[0:20:52] Planner (probable): The applicant is also requesting two variances through DVP.

[0:20:56] Planner (probable): The first is a reduction to the front lot line setback from 7.5 meters to 6.18 meters.

[0:21:03] Planner (probable): The second is a reduction to the setback from the natural boundaries of the watercourse from 15 meters to 11.6 meters.

[0:21:12] Planner (probable): Staff support these variances because they're minor in nature, do not challenge the intent of the regulation.

[0:21:18] Planner (probable): The proposed setback continue to provide appropriate separation from the road, neighboring properties, and the identified water source.

[0:21:25] Planner (probable): The variances are not expected to result in significant impacts to the neighboring properties, including privacy views or world character.

[0:21:32] Planner (probable): and the existing vegetation and site conditions provide additional screening.

[0:21:37] Planner (probable): Notification for the DVP was provided to surrounded property owners and tenants within 100 metres.

[0:21:44] Planner (probable): So one correspondence was received expressing concerns and requesting a deferral of this DVP

[0:21:51] Planner (probable): and then there were four pieces that were received in support of the variance.

[0:21:57] Planner (probable): So overall staff are satisfied the application meets the applicable quality of the regulation

[0:22:01] Planner (probable): should recommend approval of both the DP and DDP.

[0:22:04] Trustee Patrick (probable): Thank you very much.

[0:22:06] Trustee Patrick (probable): Is the applicant here today?

[0:22:07] Voice 13: Yes, I'm present.

[0:22:09] Trustee Patrick (probable): Thank you.

[0:22:09] Trustee Patrick (probable): Is there anything you want to add?

[0:22:11] Voice 13: Actually, I just wanted to hand in,

[0:22:14] Voice 13: I've got seven letters of support for all of our neighbors nearby.

[0:22:19] Voice 13: I did read on page 18 that there was a nearby property owner

[0:22:26] Voice 13: who submitted a correspondence to defer our project.

[0:22:29] Voice 13: I would like to really understand the scope or the nature of that letter if I may I did not see

[0:22:37] Voice 13: that correspondence submitted online it's on the website is it yeah could you just mention

[0:22:42] Voice 13: sort of the nature of the scope of the letter I wasn't able to actually find it amongst the

[0:22:47] Voice 13: hundreds of pages sorry but I was a little bit surprised to see that because I've gone to all

[0:22:56] Voice 13: our neighbors in this area and they've all provided letters of support which I would like to hand in

[0:23:02] Voice 13: to submit for file.

[0:23:06] Planner (probable): If the LTC they've all they've all seen it it's been forwarded to the LTC but

[0:23:11] Planner (probable): if you want to summarize it

[0:23:12] Trustee Stamford (probable): yes please it is part of the public record yes

[0:23:15] Planner (probable): so this was from

[0:23:18] Planner (probable): from a nearby property owner that is asking the LTC to defer the consideration of the DVP

[0:23:30] Planner (probable): until the owner is granted occupancy through building permit. It's sort of the nature of the

[0:23:42] Planner (probable): letter.

[0:23:44] Voice 13: Right. So part of our process with SCRD is that we have to get the DVP permits

[0:23:50] Voice 13: in order for us to commence construction.

[0:23:53] Voice 13: So it's a little bit interesting that that's come in.

[0:23:57] Voice 13: That will then give us occupancy.

[0:24:01] Voice 13: So

[0:24:02] Voice 10: can I hand in the-

[0:24:03] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yes, you may.

[0:24:03] Voice 13: Please do.

[0:24:04] Voice 13: Thank you.

[0:24:05] Voice 13: And I'd like to have these go on file from the records.

[0:24:08] Voice 13: All right.

[0:24:08] Voice 13: The two properties that are listed

[0:24:11] Voice 13: on the little piece of paper

[0:24:12] Voice 13: are two text messages that have come in to me,

[0:24:15] Voice 13: which I'm happy to have emailed

[0:24:18] Voice 13: to the actual address on file.

[0:24:22] Voice 13: that support our project to go ahead. I would like to add that my husband and I

[0:24:28] Voice 13: have moved here four years ago and unfortunately have been sort of victimized

[0:24:33] Voice 13: under some harassment from a couple of residents on the island. So we're sort of undergoing

[0:24:41] Voice 13: some of the process with that and we do expect more challenges coming our way during this project

[0:24:48] Voice 13: but we certainly hope that we can have this application

[0:24:51] Voice 13: approved so that we can have our building permits

[0:24:54] Voice 13: submitted with SCRD.

[0:24:55] Voice 13: We've had all the documents sent in

[0:24:57] Voice 13: to the SCRD building department.

[0:25:00] Voice 13: So we're ready to go and we're doing our best

[0:25:03] Voice 13: to go through this process.

[0:25:05] Trustee Patrick (probable): All right, well, thank you very much.

[0:25:07] Trustee Patrick (probable): And we're going to have some discussion here.

[0:25:08] Trustee Patrick (probable): We may have more questions for you.

[0:25:10] Trustee Patrick (probable): So I'm going to look over to the local trustees

[0:25:13] Trustee Patrick (probable): for any questions of staff or the applicant.

[0:25:15] Trustee Patrick (probable): I

[0:25:16] Trustee Stamford (probable): have no questions. I appreciate the report. The planners outlined things very clearly for me. And yeah, I have no questions.

[0:25:26] Trustee Stamford (probable): Trustee

[0:25:27] Trustee Patrick (probable): Bernardo, any questions or comments?

[0:25:29] Voice 5: No, I'm in the same position. I think the report covers all the bases. And I appreciate the effort the applicant has made into consulting the neighbors and getting their input.

[0:25:43] Voice 5: But the substance of it is, you know, this is very much a planner-centric technical analysis should be guiding the LTC, and we have the recommendation of staff, and that's sufficient as far as I'm concerned. Thank you.

[0:26:02] Trustee Patrick (probable): All right. Thank you, Colton. Go ahead, Tristan.

[0:26:07] Trustee Patrick (probable): So if there's no further questions.

[0:26:09] Trustee Stamford (probable): There are not, so you can proceed.

[0:26:11] Trustee Stamford (probable): I'd like to move the recommendation as a motion on page 14.

[0:26:17] Trustee Stamford (probable): I move that the Gambier and Local Trust Committee approve issuance of development permit PLDVP 2026-0083.

[0:26:27] Trustee Stamford (probable): All right. Is there a second?

[0:26:29] Voice 5: I second.

[0:26:29] Trustee Patrick (probable): All right.

[0:26:32] Trustee Patrick (probable): All the vote. All those in favor, raise your hands.

[0:26:38] Trustee Stamford (probable): That carries.

[0:26:39] Trustee Stamford (probable): Number two, I move that the Gambier Island Local Trust Committee approve the issuance of development variance permit PLDVP-2026-0206.

[0:26:47] Trustee Stamford (probable): Is there a second?

[0:26:49] Voice 5: Second.

[0:26:50] Trustee Patrick (probable): Second by Trustee Bernardo. Any discussion? I'll call the vote. All those in favor? And that too carries. So thank you very much for your project.

[0:27:03] Trustee Patrick (probable): Okay, I'm going to keep moving then. And the second application we have before us is item 10.2. This is a development variance permit 2026-0263 on Grove Road, beginning on page 53 of the agenda package. And again, this will be Planner McTaggart.

[0:27:23] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yeah,

[0:27:24] Planner (probable): so this application requests a variance to the required 15 meter setback from the natural boundary of the sea to permit a replacement dwelling and attached deck.

[0:27:32] Planner (probable): The proposed dwelling would be located approximately 4.8 meters from the natural boundary of the sea with the attached deck located between 1.6 and 2.8 meters from the natural boundary at different corners.

[0:27:44] Planner (probable): Key consideration for this application is the status of the previous dwelling as a non-conforming structure.

[0:27:49] Planner (probable): non-conforming status recognizes that lawfully established buildings may continue even if they

[0:27:55] Planner (probable): no longer meet current zoning regulations. However, the status is not intended to exist

[0:28:00] Planner (probable): in perpetuity. While substantial alterations or reconstruction occur, the non-conforming status

[0:28:06] Planner (probable): can be lost and the new development is expected to comply with current regulations and that's

[0:28:10] Planner (probable): very discredited. So in this case, the extent of the reconstruction exceeded the thresholds

[0:28:15] Planner (probable): to maintain non-conforming status and as a result the proposal is considered a new dwelling rather

[0:28:21] Planner (probable): than a continuation of the previous non-conforming structure and the current shoreline setback

[0:28:26] Planner (probable): requirements apply. The applicant has provided additional information from the project architect

[0:28:32] Planner (probable): and the engineer outlining the intent to retain and rehabilitate portions of the existing dwelling

[0:28:37] Planner (probable): and improve safety and energy efficiency. Staff recognize these efforts and acknowledge that the

[0:28:42] Planner (probable): proposal would result in some improvements compared to the previous structure. However,

[0:28:47] Planner (probable): the key consideration is that the variance would permit a new dwelling to remain substantially

[0:28:51] Planner (probable): within the shoreline setback for the lifespan of the new structure. The applicants also provided

[0:28:58] Planner (probable): a geotechnical assessment addressing the coastal hazards. Staff acknowledged that the report

[0:29:03] Planner (probable): concludes the site is not subject to significant flooding or slope instability and that the

[0:29:08] Planner (probable): the proposed elevation exceeds the calculated flood construction level. However, shoreline

[0:29:13] Planner (probable): setbacks are intended to address more than flood construction levels. They serve to protect natural

[0:29:18] Planner (probable): coastal processes, marine habitat, shoreline character, scenic values, and reduce the potential

[0:29:24] Planner (probable): need for future shoreline protection measures. The geotech assessment does not evaluate all of

[0:29:29] Planner (probable): these broader considerations, including long-term shoreline change, erosion processes, or the

[0:29:35] Planner (probable): implications of maintaining a dwelling within the setback area staff's assessment is that the

[0:29:39] Planner (probable): requested variance is not consistent with the intent of the ocp policies related to shoreline

[0:29:43] Planner (probable): protection coastal processes and maintaining gambier's rural coastal character since the

[0:29:50] Planner (probable): agenda was published the lcc has received i think 51 letters of support for the application

[0:29:57] Planner (probable): These submissions are based on a

[0:30:00] Planner (probable): common form letter that have been circulated to the LTC along with the applicant's supplemental

[0:30:04] Planner (probable): materials from the architect and engineer. So staff are recommending denial because approving

[0:30:09] Planner (probable): the variance would extend the presence of a new dwelling within the shoreline setback and would

[0:30:13] Planner (probable): not align with the broader objectives of the shoreline protection policies. The applicant is

[0:30:19] Planner (probable): here.

[0:30:19] Trustee Patrick (probable): All right. Yeah, so the applicant's here. Is there anything you'd like to add? Yeah, yeah,

[0:30:23] Voice 3: absolutely. Maybe on behalf of the owner, being

[0:30:26] Voice 3: this project manager who's been working closely

[0:30:29] Voice 3: do with us okay just got some material that we'll start with okay and

[0:30:35] Trustee Stamford (probable): just be clear you are the

[0:30:36] Trustee Stamford (probable): owners right okay great all

[0:30:39] Voice 4: right so as you said i'm i'm being the partner for the job site um

[0:30:44] Voice 4: one thing that i wanted to bring up was that um this uh address it was already uh had one dvp

[0:30:52] Voice 4: that was applied for and approved last year in June.

[0:30:56] Voice 4: That was DBP 2025-0170.

[0:31:02] Voice 4: And that then came after that was approved.

[0:31:06] Voice 4: We were issued a building permit, DBP 003680.

[0:31:10] Voice 4: And from there, we began construction.

[0:31:12] Voice 4: Since the beginning of construction

[0:31:14] Voice 4: based on the original DBP application,

[0:31:16] Voice 4: we're now more than 50% through construction on that project.

[0:31:21] Voice 4: and we had four building inspections and other BC Hydro and technical safety BC inspections as well

[0:31:30] Voice 4: and yeah I just want to highlight that all that work has been done based on previous DVP

[0:31:35] Voice 4: applications and the building permit approval. The original scope has not changed

[0:31:44] Voice 4: for this DVP application. We've used the exact same drawings to submit for this DVP application

[0:31:50] Voice 4: and we haven't submitted for any building revision changes through the SCRP either.

[0:31:55] Voice 4: Again, just having in fact the plan for making the exact same building permit. We have a

[0:32:00] Voice 4: two-way building permit here and structural drawings here as well. Those structural drawings

[0:32:04] Voice 4: they said to replace as required and unfortunately as we removed different aspects and got further

[0:32:11] Voice 4: the demolition each area that the structural engineer required us to change that included

[0:32:18] Voice 4: foundations and yeah that was then like again 50 through the project setting is important

[0:32:25] Voice 4: to update that this application isn't a new application even though it's maybe presented

[0:32:30] Voice 4: as a new application today but it is very much into the middle of this project and

[0:32:36] Voice 4: is not new to us. To the point where even though that wouldn't be today's staff report,

[0:32:43] Voice 4: it's kind of cut out on a paper version, but on the online version it actually shows

[0:32:46] Voice 4: the deck and the housing or the house itself to be renovated, even though on the original

[0:32:53] Voice 4: DBP it says roofline operation, that wasn't the extent of what we applied for.

[0:32:56] Voice 4: recently. Yeah, so he's asking that the entire project scope is given, I suppose, to be reviewed,

[0:33:07] Voice 4: the history of it to be reviewed, not just as an application that presents the data.

[0:33:12] Trustee Patrick (probable): Okay, and you have more, Dan?

[0:33:14] Voice 3: Yeah, here we go. So, good afternoon. My name is Dustin

[0:33:20] Voice 3: Weiner. My brother Joey and I own the property at Bay Street. And thank you for hearing us

[0:33:30] Voice 3: today. This is our family that sits on Black Beach, where the family has spent years. So

[0:33:37] Voice 3: we're new back to the island, but we were part of the AAU's generation on the island, so we spent

[0:33:44] Voice 3: many years growing up on the beach and in this house. The beach off is an old dwelling that has

[0:33:51] Voice 3: been there for the better part of the century. So although it's going through a reclassification,

[0:33:57] Voice 3: this structure has been there for a long time.

[0:34:02] Voice 3: It's been added on to piece by piece over decades

[0:34:06] Voice 3: and reached the point where it needed real work

[0:34:09] Voice 3: to be safe and to last.

[0:34:12] Voice 3: So we did this the way you are supposed to.

[0:34:15] Voice 3: We brought in architects, engineers,

[0:34:18] Voice 3: surveyor, geotechnical.

[0:34:20] Voice 3: We applied it to Islands Trust

[0:34:22] Voice 3: for a development variance permit

[0:34:23] Voice 3: for a small route line alteration

[0:34:25] Voice 3: that triggered the site encroachment.

[0:34:30] Voice 3: This committee approved it unanimously in 2025.

[0:34:34] Voice 3: We applied to the SCRD for a building permit, and it was issued.

[0:34:39] Voice 3: Then we built to the approved drawings and permits.

[0:34:45] Voice 3: In fact, the SCRD inspected and approved our work as we went

[0:34:52] Voice 3: and allowed us to continue with the construction.

[0:34:57] Voice 3: During construction, their engineers opened up the old structure

[0:35:01] Voice 3: and found conditions that no one could see from the outside.

[0:35:05] Voice 3: The building needed more structural work

[0:35:08] Voice 3: to meet current seismic and building code requirements

[0:35:11] Voice 3: on a structure this old.

[0:35:14] Voice 3: We did not improvise.

[0:35:15] Voice 3: We followed the engineer's direction.

[0:35:17] Voice 3: We kept current, and we kept building under our permit

[0:35:21] Voice 3: and under SCRD oversight and inspection.

[0:35:26] Voice 3: What did not change is the thing

[0:35:28] Voice 3: that we understood matters to this committee.

[0:35:31] Voice 3: The home sits on the same footprint in the same place set back from the water.

[0:35:37] Voice 3: We did not push the shoreline.

[0:35:40] Voice 3: We reduced the building's footprint from what was there before.

[0:35:47] Voice 3: We removed all non-conforming features and the home will meet current building seismic

[0:35:53] Voice 3: and energy goals.

[0:35:56] Voice 3: Every commitment we made to this committee about how the home would sit on the land we

[0:36:01] Voice 3: kept.

[0:36:05] Voice 3: We understand that the structural work done during construction has raised a question about how the

[0:36:12] Voice 3: home is classified and that is why we are here with the complete application and the supporting

[0:36:19] Voice 3: letters from our architect and structural engineer and our geotechnical engineer. We have also brought

[0:36:24] Voice 3: letters from our neighbours who know this home and the shoreline and who support what we have done

[0:36:32] Voice 3: and plan to do. We are not here to ask the committee to overlook anything. We are here

[0:36:43] Voice 3: to ask you to look at what we actually built a family home in the same footprint, sat back from

[0:36:51] Voice 3: the water, built a code on a property that is held at home for generations. We followed the approvals

[0:36:58] Voice 3: you and SCRD gave us, we followed what our engineers required, we followed what the

[0:37:03] Voice 3: inspectors asked of us. I'd also ask you to look closely at your own staff report,

[0:37:12] Voice 3: what it actually says and what it doesn't. Every technical question was tested. Is this home safe

[0:37:20] Voice 3: from flooding? Yes. Is the slope stable? Yes. Does it meet today's seismic and structural code? Yes.

[0:37:28] Voice 3: Nothing in the report says the home is unsafe or built wrong or a risk to anyone on this shoreline

[0:37:33] Voice 3: finding what's left in that report isn't a finding it's a question it asks for more study more time

[0:37:42] Voice 3: more process on a home that has already been engineered inspected and tested against every

[0:37:47] Voice 3: standard your own report puts in front of it we're not asking you to overlook a risk we're asking

[0:37:56] Voice 3: you not to wait on a question that already has an answer when this committee thinks about what

[0:38:05] Voice 3: belongs on the shoreline to ask you to listen to the people who actually live on it. I think it's

[0:38:12] Voice 3: 49 of our neighbours here on Gambier, most all of the residents on Grove Road as well,

[0:38:20] Voice 3: endorsed letters supporting the project. Some have called this shoreline home for over 40 years,

[0:38:28] Voice 3: several for more than 50, a few over 70. Not one letter came in against the project.

[0:38:35] Voice 3: these are families who know the coastline best love it as much as we do and who have watched

[0:38:48] Voice 3: exactly what was built there they're telling you in their own words that this home was a beach

[0:39:00] Voice 3: i'd ask you to weigh that as heavily as anything else in front of you tonight because nobody

[0:39:10] Voice 3: understands what the shoreline could look like better than the people who spent their lives on it

[0:39:24] Voice 3: We are grateful for the work this committee does to protect these islands

[0:39:28] Voice 3: and we share that care for this place as well.

[0:39:33] Voice 3: We respectfully ask you to approve the application so that we can finish our annual.

[0:39:40] Trustee Patrick (probable): Thank you very much and now, like I said, the local trustees are going to have a conversation.

[0:39:46] Trustee Patrick (probable): We might have more questions for you so, trustees?

[0:39:52] Trustee Stamford (probable): I have some questions of the planner.

[0:39:58] Trustee Stamford (probable): So I just confirmed there were no comments from any neighbors against putting

[0:40:06] Planner (probable): through this.

[0:40:08] Trustee Stamford (probable): Okay.

[0:40:14] Trustee Stamford (probable): Could you just describe, there was a reference to a modest reduction in what is being requested. Why?

[0:40:22] Planner (probable): Well, it's not a reduction in what was being requested, but it's a small reduction in the footprint.

[0:40:28] Planner (probable): print i think there was pop out on the side of the building that was taken off correct

[0:40:33] Planner (probable): and then

[0:40:36] Trustee Stamford (probable): at our last meeting it's been my final question that my last meeting there was a dvp for

[0:40:42] Trustee Stamford (probable): a different structure and that was supposed to come back with more information could you tell

[0:40:47] Trustee Stamford (probable): me what's happened i

[0:40:48] Planner (probable): believe that has been withdrawn okay

[0:40:51] Trustee Stamford (probable): sorry okay for the other dwelling

[0:40:54] Trustee Stamford (probable): Okay. So those are my questions of clarification, but I do have some comments and a motion to

[0:41:03] Trustee Stamford (probable): put forward after I hear from Trustee Bernardo.

[0:41:09] Trustee Stamford (probable): Trustee Bernardo?

[0:41:13] Trustee Stamford (probable): No, can't hear you.

[0:41:15] Trustee Stamford (probable): Are you?

[0:41:16] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yeah, you're muted.

[0:41:18] Voice 5: Okay. Thank you. Yeah. I don't have any questions to the applicant. I do have

[0:41:27] Voice 5: uh some questions i guess for the for the planner and uh please bear with me because i actually uh

[0:41:35] Voice 5: you know i remember this in the last meeting and i've looked at the materials um and i'm still

[0:41:42] Voice 5: struggling to understand the substance of the staff's objection and i want to be fair to the

[0:41:48] Voice 5: staff here so please don't misunderstand my questions but um it's not i i'm not clear in

[0:41:57] Voice 5: my own mind that may be my own fault here i'm not clear in my own mind about um the where the

[0:42:05] Voice 5: analysis from the staff is coming from and again i want to be fair but what i'm hearing what i'm

[0:42:11] Voice 5: reading is a kind of um formalistic analysis and the reason i say that is um as far as i can

[0:42:22] Voice 5: understand the chief objection seems to be that the in fact the only objection is that the

[0:42:29] Voice 5: the result of the work would be to continue this already existing non-conforming status

[0:42:35] Voice 5: with respect to setbacks. But with respect to environmental and aesthetic impact,

[0:42:44] Voice 5: nothing changes. It's not going to make a difference if this was approved. It's not

[0:42:50] Voice 5: going to make a difference to the status quo in terms of how the environment is impacted

[0:42:56] Voice 5: acted or really the purpose of all our various policies and the development permit and what

[0:43:02] Voice 5: the development permit area is there. The language coming from the planning side is, you know, it

[0:43:10] Voice 5: would have the effect of extending the dwelling non-conforming status or something along that

[0:43:15] Voice 5: line. And as I said, it seems to me the objection is that we ought not to allow this non-conforming

[0:43:22] Voice 5: status, in a sense, to be upgraded. So, you know, I want to be fair here. I mean, have I got that

[0:43:29] Voice 5: right? Because what I'm struggling with here is, really, what's the harm in terms of real world

[0:43:37] Voice 5: impact? I'm having trouble seeing it. So I'm sorry for such a muddled question. But I mean,

[0:43:43] Voice 5: I'm really kind of flailing around here, because I, you know, I understand that, in a formal way,

[0:43:49] Voice 5: it just it is um continuing the non-compliance or the non-conformity but the non-conformity

[0:43:59] Voice 5: has been there like if they do nothing it's still going to continue so i'm having trouble

[0:44:05] Voice 5: seeing what what the problem is with allowing them to upgrade so out of all that mess planner

[0:44:12] Voice 5: mccarger i hope you can you can get make some sense out of that and and perhaps respond thank

[0:44:17] Voice 5: Thank you.

[0:44:18] Planner (probable): Well, I think this is really for the LTC to discuss.

[0:44:21] Planner (probable): Like I've laid it out.

[0:44:22] Planner (probable): I took all the OCP policies that are in the existing OCP and I balanced them with what's been provided in the information that we have.

[0:44:31] Planner (probable): The OCP talks to the precautionary principle and applying that.

[0:44:35] Planner (probable): So, I think, but I think this is really for the LTC to deliberate and discuss and to look at the factors, the shoreline character, the environmental considerations, the archaeological and cultural heritage considerations.

[0:44:52] Planner (probable): But I don't know that there's more information that I can provide.

[0:44:56] Trustee Stamford (probable): So, go ahead.

[0:44:58] Trustee Stamford (probable): So I have one more question of the planner, and then I have a number of comments to make and a recommendation for consideration to my fellow trustees.

[0:45:10] Trustee Stamford (probable): One more question is when something is nonconforming and we get an application to build in that nonconformance status,

[0:45:23] Trustee Stamford (probable): What is the percentage that is considered a rebuild to the point where it's a new structure?

[0:45:32] Trustee Stamford (probable): Is there a percentage that we...

[0:45:33] Planner (probable): So it's not determined by us, it's actually the building inspector that determines it,

[0:45:37] Planner (probable): and it's in the Local Government Act, and I believe it's 75%.

[0:45:40] Planner (probable): 75%. Okay, thanks.

[0:45:44] Trustee Stamford (probable): So unlike Trustee Bernardo, I find this report clearly outlines how our official community plan

[0:45:54] Trustee Stamford (probable): and our land use bylaws portray this particular situation.

[0:45:59] Trustee Stamford (probable): This is seen as a new build that ordinarily would not be considered

[0:46:06] Trustee Stamford (probable): within the setback.

[0:46:08] Trustee Stamford (probable): And that's just how our official community plan

[0:46:11] Trustee Stamford (probable): and our land use bylaws are laid out.

[0:46:14] Trustee Stamford (probable): And that provides the overall intent is that in the long term,

[0:46:19] Trustee Stamford (probable): we want to have the opportunity to pull development back

[0:46:24] Trustee Stamford (probable): further from the ocean for a variety of reasons now given that um there's there's other things

[0:46:34] Trustee Stamford (probable): that we look at as trustees so we have the information and the recommendation from the

[0:46:39] Trustee Stamford (probable): planner we have our official community plan and land use bylaw recommendations

[0:46:45] Trustee Stamford (probable): regulations, we also get input from the community. And together, that helps us make decisions. And

[0:46:54] Trustee Stamford (probable): that is the value of variances, is you're looking at a specific situation and all those not

[0:47:03] Trustee Stamford (probable): necessarily clearly articulated other values that are outside of the regulations. So looking at that

[0:47:13] Trustee Stamford (probable): And also, having grown up near Blacks Beach, and my daughter's grown up near there, and that was our go-to beach, and also was in that house in its old state.

[0:47:27] Trustee Stamford (probable): And definitely, that was an old house.

[0:47:33] Trustee Stamford (probable): So, whereas I agree with how the report comes to the conclusions that this application should be denied,

[0:47:42] Trustee Stamford (probable): there are other aspects to this.

[0:47:44] Trustee Stamford (probable): One of the things that I've been looking at is in the community or in the area on Gambier, there are several properties, several homes that are right on the edge.

[0:47:56] Trustee Stamford (probable): They're almost falling into the water.

[0:47:58] Trustee Stamford (probable): They're in awkward locations.

[0:48:00] Trustee Stamford (probable): And I know the owners won't touch them because they don't want to have to deal with that 75% rebuild requirement, knowing they're never going to match it.

[0:48:11] Trustee Stamford (probable): They're going to have to do a complete rebuild.

[0:48:13] Trustee Stamford (probable): build what's different in this situation is it's a very small property so the other areas i've been

[0:48:19] Trustee Stamford (probable): looking at big property you can there's maneuverability in on that a lot so i would

[0:48:25] Trustee Stamford (probable): like people to understand that there are options under a variance to look outside the regulation

[0:48:32] Trustee Stamford (probable): with a full understanding of the implications and looking at specific uh place of that property

[0:48:41] Trustee Stamford (probable): property. The home is old. It needed to be renovated. I do look at the land area. It's

[0:48:54] Trustee Stamford (probable): a bit higher up. It's not subject to the same type of erosion challenges that some of the other

[0:48:59] Trustee Stamford (probable): properties in that area are. It's looking at the other properties along that neighborhood.

[0:49:06] Trustee Stamford (probable): there aren't actually very many places where a house of this type could be replicated.

[0:49:13] Trustee Stamford (probable): There are other homes that are close to the water, but they're few and far between.

[0:49:18] Trustee Stamford (probable): And again, they are in larger properties.

[0:49:21] Trustee Stamford (probable): This is probably one of the smallest lots in that whole area.

[0:49:24] Trustee Stamford (probable): And it's challenged by the fact there's also another house on it.

[0:49:30] Trustee Stamford (probable): So those are kind of some of the things I was looking at.

[0:49:33] Trustee Stamford (probable): that I don't any kind of variance but this one in particular doesn't look like it but

[0:49:38] Trustee Stamford (probable): would be repeated in other areas of that neighborhood so I do see this as a one-off

[0:49:45] Trustee Stamford (probable): situation I recognize that although it's a new house it's it's line within the

[0:49:53] Trustee Stamford (probable): view scape of that particular neighborhood is the similar or the same as what it always has been

[0:50:00] Trustee Stamford (probable): um and and so for those reasons i'm going to recommend uh number four of the options and i'll

[0:50:13] Trustee Stamford (probable): just go back to it simply that i move that the local trust committee approve the application

[0:50:19] Trustee Stamford (probable): and that statutory notice be provided in accordance with the local government act

[0:50:24] Trustee Stamford (probable): oh here we are that the gambler and local trust committee approve issuance of application dldbp

[0:50:33] Trustee Stamford (probable): 20262063. And then I have some closing statements on this particular file.

[0:50:39] Trustee Patrick (probable): All right. So you've made that motion?

[0:50:40] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yeah.

[0:50:43] Trustee Patrick (probable): Trustee Bernardo, that's on page 61 at the bottom, number four.

[0:50:48] Planner (probable): In statutory notice has been provided already.

[0:50:51] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yes.

[0:50:53] Voice 5: I'd like to have a quick look at that, please.

[0:50:57] Trustee Patrick (probable): Page 61 at the very bottom.

[0:51:00] Trustee Patrick (probable): them okay

[0:51:00] Voice 5: give me a second here that's

[0:51:03] Trustee Patrick (probable): the motion that uh trustee stamford is wishing to make

[0:51:08] Trustee Patrick (probable): the one in quotes yep

[0:51:16] Voice 5: uh i don't have a problem with that i would second that motion but

[0:51:19] Voice 5: as part of that i need to correct something i said before i said i'd read the material before

[0:51:24] Voice 5: in fact i got myself confused with the previous thing i think that was that we discussed last

[0:51:28] Voice 5: time on grove road but having said that um i do support this because uh the gist of it is

[0:51:35] Voice 5: is much the same actually as that other application.

[0:51:38] Voice 5: Again, what's the harm?

[0:51:40] Voice 5: That's my more simplistic view.

[0:51:42] Voice 5: And I appreciate what I heard from Trustee Stamford,

[0:51:45] Voice 5: her more comprehensive assessment of the application

[0:51:48] Voice 5: and I support it.

[0:51:49] Voice 5: So yes, I second the motion.

[0:51:51] Trustee Stamford (probable): Right, so just to be clear, Trustee Bernardo,

[0:51:55] Trustee Stamford (probable): the application that we looked at last meeting

[0:51:59] Trustee Stamford (probable): that we asked for more information

[0:52:02] Trustee Stamford (probable): is for the same property, but a different house.

[0:52:06] Voice 5: yes yes okay

[0:52:08] Trustee Patrick (probable): just make sure all right so the motion's been made and seconded to approve

[0:52:13] Trustee Patrick (probable): issuance of application dvp 2026 uh 0263 is there any further discussion on the motion

[0:52:20] Trustee Patrick (probable): i have a comment afterwards but i'm good there's no further discussion i'll call the vote all those

[0:52:26] Trustee Patrick (probable): in favor uh that carries trustee

[0:52:31] Trustee Stamford (probable): stanford so i'd just like to conclude because there isn't really

[0:52:34] Trustee Stamford (probable): an option to look at other values when we approve this kind of application but blacks we you spoke

[0:52:44] Trustee Stamford (probable): to the importance of black speech to the neighbors to the community for a hundred years i want to add

[0:52:52] Trustee Stamford (probable): that black speech has been popular and well used and loved for thousands of years and that we need

[0:52:59] Trustee Stamford (probable): to build that into our awareness of that area the properties that feed off black speech

[0:53:06] Trustee Stamford (probable): um and that please take extra care when you're you're doing you're finishing this

[0:53:11] Trustee Stamford (probable): home that um the history the culture and the ecology of this black speech specifically and

[0:53:20] Trustee Stamford (probable): where you are and and respect the integrity of the foreshore and just be really careful and i

[0:53:26] Trustee Stamford (probable): think all of us would benefit um moving forward that we recognize this is thousands of years

[0:53:33] Trustee Stamford (probable): of habitation in that area or use and recreation so yeah

[0:53:39] Trustee Patrick (probable): thank you thank

[0:53:41] Trustee Stamford (probable): you thank

[0:53:42] Trustee Patrick (probable): you and uh good

[0:53:43] Trustee Patrick (probable): luck with your with your project um but we don't have we're not taking any comments at this time

[0:53:48] Trustee Patrick (probable): but if you have something you want to add please reach out to us and let us know okay

[0:53:54] Trustee Patrick (probable): Kay, we're going to be going into a closed meeting so that we can have some information for making a consideration later into the meeting.

[0:54:04] Trustee Patrick (probable): So I'm going to have to ask, we're going to be making a motion to go into closed.

[0:54:09] Trustee Patrick (probable): I don't know how long.

[0:54:10] Trustee Patrick (probable): Do you want to take a two-minute break?

[0:54:11] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yeah.

[0:54:12] Trustee Patrick (probable): Get some water?

[0:54:13] Trustee Patrick (probable): Sure, you want to take a break first?

[0:54:14] Trustee Patrick (probable): Okay, I just want to warn everybody, we're going to be going into closed.

[0:54:17] Trustee Patrick (probable): We're going to be coming back out of the meeting.

[0:54:19] Trustee Patrick (probable): It'll be back open again.

[0:54:20] Trustee Patrick (probable): So in a little bit here, we'll have to ask you, you know, to leave the room.

[0:54:26] Trustee Patrick (probable): And while we have a conversation, then you're invited back in again.

[0:54:33] Trustee Patrick (probable): I text you.

[0:54:35] Trustee Patrick (probable): I don't, I don't, I don't know.

[0:54:37] Trustee Patrick (probable): Hopefully not horribly long, but this group can talk, you know.

[0:54:42] Trustee Patrick (probable): Maybe don't have lunch and then come back.

[0:54:45] Trustee Stamford (probable): Yeah.

[0:54:46] Planner (probable): Because I

[0:54:47] Trustee Patrick (probable): think that was the

[0:54:47] Planner (probable): intent on the agenda was to kind of schedule it.

[0:54:50] Planner (probable): and then return

[0:54:51] Trustee Patrick (probable): back yeah okay

[0:54:53] Planner (probable): yeah

[0:54:55] Trustee Patrick (probable): we're early oh wait wait that's off on oh news yeah

[0:54:59] Planner (probable): so but

[0:55:00] Planner (probable): maybe we closed or you didn't have plenty yeah thank

[0:55:03] Voice 3: you thank you thank you good luck thank

[0:55:06] Voice 3: you thank you

[0:55:07] Trustee Patrick (probable): oh i'm sorry lisa i couldn't hear you there are we recessed for a break

[0:55:15] Trustee Patrick (probable): before we go to yes

[0:55:16] Voice 8: we're going to

[0:55:16] Trustee Patrick (probable): take a brief a very short break like five minutes max

[0:55:20] Trustee Patrick (probable): then we're going to go into in camera thank you so we could probably just close the meeting

[0:55:27] Trustee Patrick (probable): take this time to stop recording and block the meeting thank you

[0:55:38] Voice 13: yeah there's no lunch break on here but

[0:55:42] Voice 10: no thank you

[1:25:02] Voice 10: New? Hello, Lisa

[1:25:05] Trustee Patrick (probable): and Didi. I'm really hard at learning new names.

[1:25:13] Voice 2: That's okay. You're ready to start?

[1:25:16] Trustee Patrick (probable): I think so. Is that trustee Bernard? Yes, we are. So go ahead. Let me know when it's up and running.

[1:25:23] Voice 8: I will start recording in right now.

[1:25:29] Trustee Patrick (probable): All right. Thank you, everyone. We're back from having an in-camera meeting as well as a lunch break.

[1:25:37] Trustee Patrick (probable): I will rise and report that we approved the May 26th in-camera meeting minutes.

[1:25:44] Trustee Patrick (probable): With that, we're moving on with our agenda.

[1:25:46] Trustee Patrick (probable): We are now at item 12.1, which is the Major Projects Gambier Island OCP Land Use By-law Review Draft By-law No. 163.

[1:25:56] Trustee Patrick (probable): It's on page 103 of the agenda package.

[1:26:02] Trustee Patrick (probable): Sorry.

[1:26:03] Trustee Patrick (probable): Sorry.

[1:26:09] Trustee Patrick (probable): Well, can you have a report from stuff or?

[1:26:14] Trustee Patrick (probable): I

[1:26:15] Planner (probable): don't think there's anything to really report out.

[1:26:17] Planner (probable): We're just going to get into it.

[1:26:19] Planner (probable): Yeah.

[1:26:19] Planner (probable): Okay.

[1:26:19] Planner (probable): What are the next steps?

[1:26:21] Trustee Patrick (probable): So trustees, you have the draft bylaw before you.

[1:26:25] Trustee Patrick (probable): What are the next steps that you would like to consider?

[1:26:29] Trustee Stamford (probable): What page again?

[1:26:31] Trustee Patrick (probable): 103 is where the report starts.

[1:26:33] Trustee Patrick (probable): The draft bylaw is a page or two next later.

[1:26:37] Trustee Stamford (probable): Oh, there's a wrong packet.

[1:26:40] Trustee Patrick (probable): I know.

[1:26:40] Trustee Patrick (probable): I just closed something I wanted open for it.

[1:26:49] Trustee Patrick (probable): So we have the draft.

[1:26:57] Trustee Patrick (probable): So I would

[1:26:57] Trustee Stamford (probable): like to look at doing further amendments.

[1:27:02] Trustee Patrick (probable): Hi, welcome back.

[1:27:03] Trustee Patrick (probable): We just literally got started.

[1:27:07] Trustee Stamford (probable): um so we've had time to consider the draft language for the ocp uh introduction

[1:27:17] Trustee Stamford (probable): um and additions so i was wondering if we could go back and review and maybe make some editing

[1:27:24] Trustee Stamford (probable): um with the intent that we um then be able to move forward

[1:27:33] Trustee Patrick (probable): all right well we'd like to

[1:27:35] Trustee Patrick (probable): we want to go through this in order are there so would that help yeah

[1:27:40] Trustee Stamford (probable): so

[1:27:41] Trustee Patrick (probable): we're on page you want to

[1:27:43] Trustee Stamford (probable): start um trusty bernardo because yeah so i have a clear clear stuff so because

[1:27:50] Voice 5: i've been in the

[1:27:51] Voice 5: flight in the ointment for a while um we've got a fly

[1:27:55] Trustee Stamford (probable): thing going

[1:27:58] Voice 5: whoops um yeah i've uh i do have some suggestions but before we get on to that i've got a question

[1:28:08] Voice 5: about, and it's got to do with amending the bylaw here, which in broad strokes, just to be clear,

[1:28:17] Voice 5: is not too bad here. 2.2, the plan may include policies relate to social well-being and

[1:28:25] Voice 5: development. Well, I think there's a that that's missing. You should probably read the plan may

[1:28:31] Voice 5: include policies that relate to social well-being and development. But I got a question. I mean,

[1:28:36] Voice 5: mean what does that even mean i mean it's um i i don't know what it means i'm

[1:28:44] Trustee Patrick (probable): sorry where were you

[1:28:45] Trustee Patrick (probable): asking that it's

[1:28:47] Voice 5: at 2.2 of the draft 2

[1:28:50] Trustee Patrick (probable): .2 of the drafts

[1:28:51] Voice 5: yeah it says the community part two

[1:28:55] Voice 5: community goals subsection purpose the official community plan last paragraph deleted replated

[1:28:59] Voice 5: with replaced with the plan may include policies relate to should say that relate to i think i

[1:29:07] Voice 5: i think it's just a typo there but also okay i'm

[1:29:11] Voice 5: not objecting to the language i would just like

[1:29:13] Voice 5: some clarification about you know where are we getting i mean i appreciate the ocp is intended

[1:29:18] Voice 5: to be a general policy kind of statement um but what are we getting at when we talk about social

[1:29:28] Voice 5: well-being and development because you know we're in the land planning business we're not in the

[1:29:33] Voice 5: social welfare or the cultural development or whatever business so what are we getting at with

[1:29:40] Voice 5: that i like i'm not going to die on this hill but i'm just i just jumps out at me it's kind of like

[1:29:46] Voice 5: why are we saying this like what are we trying to accomplish by saying this that's all

[1:29:53] Trustee Patrick (probable): i'm willing i can make a stab if um i mean land use planning is your it is for what is the

[1:30:00] Trustee Patrick (probable): benefit of it not just to divide parcels and good zoning you're doing it because you're doing it

[1:30:07] Trustee Patrick (probable): because you want the there is the land serving the needs of the community people that live there

[1:30:14] Trustee Patrick (probable): now do we have the type of zoning that that meets the the greater needs because that can also

[1:30:22] Trustee Patrick (probable): include waste transfer and other things that um you know you need as a community to function

[1:30:28] Trustee Patrick (probable): we have that in our control that's

[1:30:34] Voice 5: fair um i'm actually feeling kind of dumb now because as you

[1:30:37] Voice 5: stated it seems kind of obvious

[1:30:38] Voice 11: um

[1:30:39] Voice 5: thank you for that um let's see um yeah at um going back a step

[1:30:53] Voice 5: uh 2.1 um we've sort of fumbled around with whether we should use the squamish

[1:31:05] Voice 5: language uh or gambier island in terms of describing this island that we care about

[1:31:12] Voice 5: and are trying to help and uh i'm wondering if the reference to the island should simply be

[1:31:24] Voice 5: something like gambier and i wish i could pronounce the squamish word but the gambier

[1:31:31] Voice 5: island slash child

[1:31:33] Trustee Stamford (probable): no edge thank

[1:31:34] Voice 5: you maybe maybe maybe

[1:31:36] Voice 5: i could let uh trustee samford deal with

[1:31:38] Voice 5: this because yes she can say and i can't you know gambler islands last not to etch or in reverse

[1:31:45] Voice 5: something like that and throughout uh you know if we make that change here okay

[1:31:51] Trustee Patrick (probable): uh trustee stanford

[1:31:52] Trustee Patrick (probable): so

[1:31:53] Trustee Stamford (probable): i guess in terms of process if we could just it would be easier if we could just put all these

[1:31:58] Trustee Stamford (probable): edits yeah and then yeah do one motion is that yep

[1:32:03] Trustee Patrick (probable): i think if the minute taker can if we could uh

[1:32:05] Trustee Patrick (probable): We'll instruct you on what we're recommending as an amendment, and then we'll do an omnibus motion at the end to read those.

[1:32:15] Planner (probable): Well, and a way that I've done it before is also to just say that you request staff to amend draft bylaw as discussed in the meeting, as per minutes.

[1:32:27] Planner (probable): You know, that's still a draft. It hasn't been given first reading.

[1:32:29] Planner (probable): So I think as long as there's good meeting minutes on what was discussed, then we could just say.

[1:32:35] Planner (probable): all right sure okay

[1:32:36] Trustee Stamford (probable): i am yeah that works

[1:32:38] Voice 4: so

[1:32:39] Trustee Stamford (probable): um i i think it would be cleaner um that rather than

[1:32:45] Trustee Stamford (probable): having either one of the titles of the island in parentheses which gives it um sort of lesser or

[1:32:55] Trustee Stamford (probable): more important emphasis is to just simply do um a slash um between gambier island child no edge

[1:33:05] Trustee Stamford (probable): and i'm not particular on which comes first um maybe for consistency as it is the gambier island

[1:33:14] Trustee Stamford (probable): official community plan that we do gambier island first slash child no edge and i am not

[1:33:22] Trustee Stamford (probable): not i i continue to fumble on that a little bit in terms of how to pronounce it so don't take my

[1:33:29] Trustee Stamford (probable): so i guess can we agree

[1:33:31] Trustee Patrick (probable): then gambier island first then a slash and then child no watch yes yes does

[1:33:38] Trustee Patrick (probable): that make sense okay staff or the minute taker you could catch that so that would be changed 2.1

[1:33:44] Trustee Patrick (probable): and then that affects and then that runs through the document right

[1:33:49] Voice 11: okay

[1:33:51] Trustee Stamford (probable): i do recognize that

[1:33:53] Trustee Stamford (probable): But names are incredibly important.

[1:33:57] Voice 11: So

[1:33:57] Trustee Stamford (probable): we need to keep that consistent and recognize it.

[1:34:02] Trustee Patrick (probable): So that's the only change to that section then?

[1:34:06] Voice 5: Yeah.

[1:34:07] Voice 5: I don't have, just speaking for myself,

[1:34:10] Voice 5: I don't have any further comments until we get to the last paragraph.

[1:34:15] Voice 5: Well, no.

[1:34:16] Voice 5: The last paragraph of 2.4,

[1:34:19] Voice 5: uh before the heading indigenous acknowledgement and reconciliation yeah

[1:34:26] Trustee Stamford (probable): so yeah and so the last

[1:34:29] Trustee Stamford (probable): paragraph um is looking at the cultural heritage of the squamish nation and

[1:34:36] Trustee Stamford (probable): other indigenous so where is so it's the last um paragraph before indigenous acknowledgement

[1:34:48] Trustee Stamford (probable): acknowledgement it's the first sentence it's a specific

[1:34:52] Trustee Patrick (probable): okay so it's

[1:34:54] Trustee Stamford (probable): on page 105

[1:34:55] Trustee Patrick (probable): of the agenda

[1:34:56] Trustee Patrick (probable): package yeah and so it's the last paragraph above where it says indigenous knowledge and

[1:35:02] Trustee Patrick (probable): reconciliation so i guess that's the last paragraph in historical cultural context of

[1:35:08] Trustee Patrick (probable): gambier island right just to make sure staff were so

[1:35:12] Trustee Stamford (probable): okay and your change

[1:35:13] Trustee Stamford (probable): that you'd like to make

[1:35:14] Trustee Stamford (probable): Well, I mean, what do you think, Trustee Bernardo, is Squamish Nation and other

[1:35:21] Voice 5: First Nations or something to that effect?

[1:35:25] Voice 5: The idea being to acknowledge that although Squamish Nation clearly has a very strong interest and has been actively engaged with our staff and expressing its interest in the history and future of the island that, you know, for thousands of years has been sort of back and forth.

[1:35:46] Voice 5: And, you know, there's layers of different types of interests, and I don't pretend to really have much of a command of those other than the bare fact that I know that there's multiple throughout all of Howe Sound, there have been interests of multiple nations.

[1:36:01] Voice 5: And so it seems prudent to, although acknowledging the Squamish nation, at least at this stage, has been the most prominent one that we have engaged with, but there are other interests from other nations.

[1:36:12] Voice 5: So I would say the cultural heritage of the Squamish nation and other First Nations, or something to that effect.

[1:36:22] Trustee Stamford (probable): I never know the implications of certain terms, but what if other Indigenous bodies, is that a fact?

[1:36:29] Trustee Stamford (probable): Indigenous governing bodies?

[1:36:31] Trustee Stamford (probable): Indigenous governing bodies, is that a term?

[1:36:34] Voice 5: You know what, I think that's probably better.

[1:36:38] Planner (probable): I see that Joe Elliott's...

[1:36:40] Planner (probable): Oh,

[1:36:40] Voice 10: yeah, of course.

[1:36:41] Voice 10: Sorry, I forgot he was on.

[1:36:47] Voice 10: still tuned in hi

[1:36:48] Trustee Patrick (probable): joe do you hit joe uh elliot our senior indigenous relations advisor

[1:36:55] Trustee Patrick (probable): hi joe

[1:36:56] Voice 1: no i i missed the question sorry about that i think you know if we i think the term

[1:37:00] Voice 1: that would have been used in this indigenous governed bodies that we're um building relationship

[1:37:04] Voice 1: with

[1:37:05] Trustee Patrick (probable): okay so the sentence we could say the cultural heritage of the squamish nation and

[1:37:11] Trustee Patrick (probable): And other Indigenous governing bodies.

[1:37:14] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yeah.

[1:37:15] Voice 10: That worked for me.

[1:37:16] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yeah.

[1:37:17] Trustee Patrick (probable): Okay.

[1:37:17] Trustee Stamford (probable): Thank you very much.

[1:37:19] Voice 10: Sorry,

[1:37:20] Trustee Stamford (probable): I totally forgot you were there, Joe.

[1:37:24] Voice 5: Yeah, no problem.

[1:37:25] Voice 5: Thanks.

[1:37:26] Voice 5: And I would think that we'd do the same thing in the next paragraph.

[1:37:33] Trustee Stamford (probable): Indigenous governing bodies have maintained enduring relationships.

[1:37:37] Voice 5: Yeah.

[1:37:38] Trustee Stamford (probable): So make that change in the first paragraph.

[1:37:43] Voice 5: Well, hang on.

[1:37:44] Voice 5: No, sorry.

[1:37:44] Voice 5: I'm going to go back ways. I've made a mistake. I'm a bit of an autopilot here.

[1:37:50] Voice 5: Actually, it actually, it actually covers it the way it is.

[1:37:53] Voice 11: Yeah.

[1:37:54] Voice 5: Because it says indigenous nations that covers. Yeah. Yeah.

[1:37:58] Voice 5: I'm a bit sleepy, I guess.

[1:38:03] Voice 5: Let's see what all

[1:38:03] Trustee Patrick (probable): are. It's the warm weather.

[1:38:09] Voice 5: Yeah. The second paragraph, you know, I don't feel strongly about this.

[1:38:14] Voice 5: I'm fine with the first sentence.

[1:38:17] Voice 5: Um, the second sentence, these patterns continue to shape land ownership and land use within the

[1:38:23] Voice 5: local trust area. Um, and I apologize for this. I think sometimes I'm just a bit OCD-ish about

[1:38:32] Voice 5: language. The, um, certainly the first part is very true. Uh, the first sentence, the second

[1:38:39] Voice 5: part is actually, we're kind of in the middle of changing that. And it's actually the second part

[1:38:44] Voice 5: isn't entirely true, but these patterns continue to shape land ownership and land use within the

[1:38:49] Voice 5: the local trust area because we are moving in the direction of reconciliation and trying to

[1:38:54] Voice 5: change those patterns again this is not a major point and if the other trustees just tell me look

[1:39:02] Voice 5: wise up and move on i will but um i'm just wondering whether or not we really need that

[1:39:07] Voice 5: second sentence so

[1:39:10] Trustee Stamford (probable): can i respond yeah go ahead um i mean i i'm not going to say wise up and move on

[1:39:16] Trustee Stamford (probable): But I do want to press a little bit on this, that because of the first sentence, these patterns are continuing, that our subdivisions, the way our land ownership is, the land use is still significantly status quo based on how it was developed 100 years ago.

[1:39:41] Trustee Stamford (probable): So, yes, we might be looking at, you know, how our parks are managed and things like that.

[1:39:48] Trustee Stamford (probable): But essentially, overall, this statement to me is very true.

[1:39:53] Trustee Stamford (probable): And I also I want that to be sort of acknowledged in the OCP that this is this is still how we are moving forward.

[1:40:04] Trustee Stamford (probable): There hasn't been a dramatic change.

[1:40:06] Trustee Stamford (probable): change we're looking at small changes but you know there hasn't been any significant change

[1:40:13] Trustee Stamford (probable): and that also provides in a way um a little bit of certainty for people that are worried

[1:40:22] Voice 5: well like yeah yeah i take your first point pretty yeah um i i you know i i think it's just

[1:40:31] Voice 5: a question of what reading it the kind of emphasis that just occurs to you and just as you explained

[1:40:34] Voice 5: that Trustee Sinford, what you're saying is very true.

[1:40:39] Voice 5: We are dealing with kind of an established land use

[1:40:41] Voice 5: and regulatory regime.

[1:40:44] Voice 5: It's still the order of the day.

[1:40:46] Voice 5: Yeah, okay, fine, yeah.

[1:40:49] Voice 5: We'll move on.

[1:40:50] Trustee Patrick (probable): Okay.

[1:40:52] Trustee Patrick (probable): Next paragraph has a-

[1:40:54] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yeah, there was-

[1:40:56] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yeah, where it says future policy development

[1:40:59] Trustee Patrick (probable): and land use planning decisions says are to be approached.

[1:41:03] Trustee Patrick (probable): It's R to B should be, should be.

[1:41:06] Trustee Stamford (probable): I wrote should be grounded in respect.

[1:41:08] Trustee Patrick (probable): Should be

[1:41:09] Trustee Patrick (probable): grounded in, oh, yeah.

[1:41:12] Voice 5: Yeah, that's cleaner.

[1:41:13] Voice 5: What you're suggesting is cleaner language.

[1:41:15] Trustee Patrick (probable): Okay.

[1:41:16] Voice 5: Let's do it that way.

[1:41:18] Trustee Patrick (probable): Can you go ahead then?

[1:41:19] Trustee Patrick (probable): So that's the, you're going to replace the R to B approached in a manner grounded in,

[1:41:24] Trustee Patrick (probable): and we'll change that to?

[1:41:26] Trustee Patrick (probable): Should be grounded in respect for Indigenous interests.

[1:41:29] Trustee Stamford (probable): There you go.

[1:41:31] Trustee Patrick (probable): So I hope, minute taker, could you catch that one?

[1:41:35] Trustee Patrick (probable): Chair

[1:41:37] Voice 8: Patrick, I'm going to confirm that you wanted to read future policy development and land use planning decisions should be grounded in respect.

[1:41:49] Voice 8: Thank you.

[1:41:50] Trustee Stamford (probable): Yeah, that's accurate.

[1:41:52] Trustee Stamford (probable): Thank you.

[1:41:55] Trustee Patrick (probable): Okay.

[1:41:56] Trustee Patrick (probable): Any other changes in that paragraph?

[1:41:58] Voice 4: No.

[1:41:59] Trustee Patrick (probable): No.

[1:42:02] Voice 4: All right.

[1:42:04] Trustee Patrick (probable): Now we're in the protection of archaeological

[1:42:06] Trustee Patrick (probable): sites section.

[1:42:07] Trustee Patrick (probable): so

[1:42:10] Trustee Stamford (probable): one of the comments and i'll jump in here was we've got um the second sentence said for 98

[1:42:17] Trustee Stamford (probable): of the time people have lived in this area so it could be construed this is a specific

[1:42:23] Trustee Stamford (probable): number um and though we talk about eons and 10 000 years it would be hard to provide

[1:42:32] Trustee Stamford (probable): provide such a specific percentage based on a great length of time, but not a precise

[1:42:39] Trustee Stamford (probable): understanding of how long that is. So would it be okay to say for the vast majority of time

[1:42:46] Trustee Stamford (probable): people have lived in this area? Does that convey the same level of?

[1:42:54] Voice 5: Yes, I think what you're suggesting is better because as you say, in order to come up with a

[1:43:01] Voice 5: number as specific as 98 you actually have to have a fairly specific number as to how long uh

[1:43:10] Voice 5: indigenous nations have occupied the territory and uh we

[1:43:17] Voice 11: don't know it's

[1:43:18] Voice 5: very very long yes quarter

[1:43:20] Voice 5: of 10 000 years plus but it could be 15 17 more i mean we should probably steer away from this kind

[1:43:29] Voice 5: of exactitude, which is basically impossible, and just acknowledging the reality, which is,

[1:43:35] Voice 5: as you say, the vast majority.

[1:43:37] Trustee Patrick (probable): Or you

[1:43:39] Voice 5: could actually say the overwhelming majority of the

[1:43:41] Voice 5: time.

[1:43:42] Trustee Patrick (probable): That's a lot more words. I like vast majority. So Lisa, that's the second sentence

[1:43:48] Trustee Patrick (probable): of the first paragraph, under protection of archaeological sites change for 98% of the time to

[1:43:56] Trustee Patrick (probable): vast majority of the time vast majority of the time okay all right and

[1:44:12] Trustee Stamford (probable): then we move down

[1:44:13] Trustee Stamford (probable): i don't have anything past reconciliation as a planning framework down to reconcile so it's the

[1:44:21] Trustee Stamford (probable): paragraph after the alphabet bullets in

[1:44:25] Trustee Patrick (probable): the reconciliation as a planning framework the

[1:44:28] Trustee Patrick (probable): the paragraph following the bullets, the ABCs.

[1:44:32] Trustee Stamford (probable): It's clarifying or existing legal interests.

[1:44:36] Trustee Stamford (probable): So how to clarify what that means.

[1:44:41] Voice 5: Yeah, I have a concern about that, the current language,

[1:44:45] Voice 5: because existing legal interest is a pretty all-encompassing description.

[1:44:53] Voice 5: And legal interest is not the same as legal rights.

[1:44:56] Voice 5: It's vaster than that.

[1:44:58] Voice 5: And the point of this paragraph, or especially of that sentence, is to be very clear that we're not, there's nothing in this that intends or is even capable of affecting ownership rights of private property.

[1:45:20] Voice 5: Existing legal rights encompasses all sorts of other much more complicated things.

[1:45:24] Voice 5: I don't think we want to get into, we don't want to create that ambiguity.

[1:45:27] Voice 5: and I would be happy if we said does not alter ownership of private lands or existing property rights and that narrows it down.

[1:45:42] Voice 11: Yeah, I can work with that.

[1:45:50] Trustee Patrick (probable): All right. Lisa, did you get that one?

[1:45:54] Voice 8: That's affirmative, Chair Patrick.

[1:45:56] Trustee Patrick (probable): Thank you.

[1:46:01] Voice 5: And then when we move on to the next reconciling objectives, paragraph one, it's the same point we made before, the kind of Gambier Island slash.

[1:46:13] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yes, thank you.

[1:46:16] Trustee Patrick (probable): Just keep it consistent throughout.

[1:46:18] Voice 5: Yeah,

[1:46:18] Trustee Patrick (probable): the bylaw should be consistent with the step that we said to change the entire document with.

[1:46:24] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yes.

[1:46:25] Trustee Patrick (probable): So number one, I think if you got that, Lisa, that just had to be caught.

[1:46:29] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yeah, I think we've got it in the first amended.

[1:46:32] Trustee Patrick (probable): Right, but that's about changing the OCP.

[1:46:35] Trustee Patrick (probable): This is the bylaw.

[1:46:37] Voice 10: Yeah.

[1:46:38] Trustee Patrick (probable): It should be correct.

[1:46:41] Trustee Patrick (probable): Okay.

[1:46:42] Trustee Patrick (probable): um number five yeah then we're

[1:46:48] Trustee Stamford (probable): at number five um so number five of the reconciliation objectives

[1:46:53] Trustee Stamford (probable): is um suggest uh editing it to say acknowledge to the acknowledge the guidance and teachings

[1:47:08] Trustee Stamford (probable): so take out generous so put in acknowledge instead of respond and then take out

[1:47:15] Trustee Stamford (probable): the word generous and say acknowledge the guidance and teachings that have been shared

[1:47:24] Trustee Stamford (probable): with staff and trustees by indigenous peoples yeah

[1:47:29] Voice 5: i think that's better respond respond is

[1:47:32] Voice 5: kind of ambiguous yeah

[1:47:35] Voice 12: i've

[1:47:46] Trustee Stamford (probable): got that yeah and

[1:47:48] Voice 10: i just want to

[1:47:48] Trustee Stamford (probable): clarify the term generous i i feel

[1:47:52] Trustee Stamford (probable): that although the guidance and teachings are generous um it's not used as a planning term

[1:47:59] Trustee Stamford (probable): anywhere else in the document and um it it just um throws a a judge a judging term into something

[1:48:12] Trustee Stamford (probable): that i don't think is necessary but i do think the guidance and teachings are generous but

[1:48:19] Voice 10: not in

[1:48:21] Trustee Stamford (probable): this context yeah

[1:48:22] Voice 10: and

[1:48:25] Trustee Stamford (probable): that's um all i have for this one i've

[1:48:32] Voice 5: got nothing else to add

[1:48:33] Voice 5: actually all

[1:48:37] Trustee Patrick (probable): right if there's no other changes then we would just need a motion to request staff

[1:48:46] Trustee Patrick (probable): to amend bylaw proposed bylaw number 163 as disgustingly yeah

[1:48:57] Planner (probable): i will tell you yeah as

[1:48:58] Planner (probable): discussed in the july 21st 2026 so i'm

[1:49:03] Trustee Stamford (probable): just wondering um this is the last meeting of the

[1:49:13] Trustee Stamford (probable): gambia local trust committee for this term i would really like to see this go to first read

[1:49:21] Trustee Stamford (probable): what would it take to do that first reading now i

[1:49:25] Planner (probable): don't we can't we can't no i don't think there's

[1:49:27] Planner (probable): way to do the first reading now why

[1:49:30] Trustee Patrick (probable): not do we have to notice the first meeting no just um we

[1:49:35] Trustee Patrick (probable): could just actually do the amendments through motion oh uh sorry justy bernardo uh

[1:49:43] Voice 5: yeah i mean

[1:49:47] Voice 5: you know it's just first

[1:49:48] Voice 5: i i i cause all sorts of trouble all the time but on something procedural

[1:49:52] Voice 5: like this you know i'm i'm pretty happy to defer to staff's judgment uh first reading going through

[1:49:58] Voice 5: all those steps the they have to go through that whole process of ticking a lot of boxes

[1:50:05] Voice 5: and procedural things and all that kind of stuff i would suggest that we we schedule a special

[1:50:10] Voice 5: meeting um and i thought

[1:50:13] Voice 5: and i thought the resolution was contemplating as as drafted

[1:50:17] Voice 5: in the materials was contemplating kicking us over to november well that's

[1:50:23] Voice 5: that is yeah i know i i i

[1:50:25] Voice 5: But I agree with Trustee Stamford that I think it would be preferable that we do it because it's our handiwork.

[1:50:33] Voice 5: And, you know, to be honest, we don't want to muck things up.

[1:50:37] Voice 5: We're

[1:50:37] Trustee Patrick (probable): not mucking any first readings, first reading.

[1:50:39] Trustee Patrick (probable): I've given first reading at a local trust committee where staff have brought a draft bylaw and we said we're giving it first reading.

[1:50:45] Planner (probable): So I'm remembering that Sonia said first reading can't happen right now.

[1:50:50] Planner (probable): Now, the policy statement, the trust policy statement checklist has not been completed.

[1:50:56] Planner (probable): So that's also something that comes along with first reading.

[1:51:01] Planner (probable): There might have been another reason.

[1:51:03] Voice 5: But can we, you know, when I met, I used sloppy language.

[1:51:08] Voice 5: I said, muck things up.

[1:51:09] Voice 5: Is that, you know, there's going to be election.

[1:51:11] Voice 5: We don't know who the next LTC has been comprised of.

[1:51:14] Voice 5: of. We've through, you know, fair bit of energy, gone back and forth and husbanded this thing,

[1:51:22] Voice 5: the last meeting was pretty energetic. We've accomplished something here. And I think it's

[1:51:27] Voice 5: fitting that we get it at least past the first reading line. And that's why I'm going to suggest

[1:51:34] Voice 5: that we work with staff like today, pick a date that we think would work for a special meeting

[1:51:40] Voice 5: meeting before the election and do the first reading then. Maybe in September.

[1:51:45] Trustee Patrick (probable): I see RPM Jammer and has her hand raised.

[1:51:50] Thank

[1:51:52] Voice 2: you, Chair. So there's a question, I think, being discussed about can the LTC

[1:52:01] Voice 2: give first reading at this point in time? That could be possible, but noting what

[1:52:08] Voice 2: what Leonard McCarger has also mentioned with some of the work left for staff

[1:52:13] Voice 2: to just check through.

[1:52:15] Voice 2: There is also the public engagement,

[1:52:19] Voice 2: a CIM or community information meetings that will be held in late July,

[1:52:22] Voice 2: early August. And as the staff report notes,

[1:52:26] Voice 2: the intention was to for an opportunity for participants to provide some

[1:52:32] Voice 2: comments and feedback.

[1:52:33] Voice 2: and then that

[1:52:34] Voice 2: that information will come back through at the um at the november meeting as well

[1:52:40] Voice 2: um in terms of the timing of that i think november makes sense it would be difficult to schedule i

[1:52:47] Voice 2: think because of availability and timing before elections another um meeting another business

[1:52:54] Voice 2: meeting um with what is scheduled overall for business meetings that are happening from now

[1:53:00] Voice 2: until that time but

[1:53:02] Trustee Patrick (probable): we could challenge that i'm being a chair that i know that it'd be important

[1:53:06] Trustee Patrick (probable): to trustee stanford that we could try to find a special meeting time uh to give this first reading

[1:53:14] Trustee Stamford (probable): so i just want to say and i'll let trustee bernard also jump in on this that

[1:53:19] Trustee Stamford (probable): this has been going on for two terms and we're coming to a very small sliver of what the overall

[1:53:28] Trustee Stamford (probable): goals of the OCP renewal was in terms of just a first reading on basically introductory

[1:53:38] Trustee Stamford (probable): statements and then looking at some terms for offshore guidance, DPA guidance.

[1:53:50] Trustee Stamford (probable): This part of it is the introduction.

[1:53:53] Trustee Stamford (probable): I'm really hoping to that someone somehow will indulge me that this be the one piece of work

[1:54:03] Trustee Stamford (probable): that at least gets to first reading I I do hear you that the CIMs are coming so I think that's

[1:54:10] Trustee Stamford (probable): important to go through that process we've we committed to that but at some point after those

[1:54:16] Trustee Stamford (probable): those CIMs, but we have a very, you know, depending on what comes in, but I really believe

[1:54:24] Trustee Stamford (probable): that this is worth going to first reading with information from the CIM.

[1:54:32] Trustee Patrick (probable): We've got to pass a motion to draft the amendments, and we could pass a motion asking

[1:54:37] Trustee Patrick (probable): staff to prepare and find a special meeting. We can ask them to do that, at least get them to look.

[1:54:43] Trustee Patrick (probable): trustee bernardo right i

[1:54:45] Voice 5: mean uh the um you know i hear the staff i mean they've got a lot of balls

[1:54:52] Voice 5: to jump yeah they do but

[1:54:53] Voice 5: you know um when i hear rpm jammer and saying it's difficult

[1:54:58] Voice 5: i'm not hearing it's impossible and you know sometimes um you know sometimes as trustees

[1:55:05] Voice 5: our job is to make life difficult for the staff i'm sorry and um we've got a

[1:55:13] Voice 5: what Trustee Stanford is gently suggesting is that there is a strong policy reason

[1:55:21] Voice 5: to get this done before the election. And also,

[1:55:27] Voice 5: if I may, there is meeting after meeting,

[1:55:34] Voice 5: whenever this thing has come up, what has always emerged is the amount of effort the staff,

[1:55:42] Voice 5: in particular, Planner Zupanek, has put into engagement with Squamish Nation,

[1:55:47] Voice 5: and as she has frequently reminded us, and particularly me,

[1:55:53] Voice 5: the respectfulness part of the equation is more than a matter of just saying nice things. It's

[1:56:02] Voice 5: actually doing something and delivering some kind of result. We are poised now to do that.

[1:56:09] Voice 5: We don't, you know, we've struggled with some principled objections to the margins of this

[1:56:13] Voice 5: thing, and I've been kind of nagging about that. We've worked through those. I think it's entirely

[1:56:18] Voice 5: fitting at the end of this term that we send, you know, we have a policy objective here, but also

[1:56:25] Voice 5: I think it's a measure of respect for the effort that Palenar Zupanik has put into it, but more so

[1:56:31] Voice 5: the contribution. You know, we just finished talking about the generous guidance

[1:56:35] Voice 5: of Indigenous people. Well, that's what we've been getting with their contribution

[1:56:40] Voice 5: to this effort and I think that's why we need to pass this thing before the

[1:56:45] Voice 5: election and it I do think it has to be after the community information meetings

[1:56:51] Voice 5: because as Trustee Sanford pointed out the idea of those is they're targeted

[1:56:56] Voice 5: around the shoreline development permit area thinking we don't want to cut you

[1:57:03] Voice 5: know if we passed it now we risk cluttering up and confusing those

[1:57:07] Voice 5: those meetings with like, you know, first reading of this,

[1:57:10] Voice 5: what did you mean?

[1:57:11] Voice 5: Blah, blah, blah, forget it.

[1:57:12] Voice 5: Let's just keep those things focused on the shoreline thing.

[1:57:14] Voice 5: The public will have an opportunity to deal

[1:57:17] Voice 5: or an address this after first reading,

[1:57:20] Voice 5: it's gonna be going to the public at some point,

[1:57:23] Voice 5: we will have community information meetings about the OCP.

[1:57:27] Voice 5: So that's my pitch that we should move heaven and earth

[1:57:31] Voice 5: to have a special meeting

[1:57:34] Voice 5: meeting as soon as possible after the last community information meeting. In my own case,

[1:57:44] Voice 5: I would prefer to do it sometime in early September.

[1:57:47] Trustee Patrick (probable): All right. Thank you. Renee, does

[1:57:50] Trustee Patrick (probable): Demaret?

[1:57:51] Voice 2: Thank you, Chair. So in terms of some providing some other factors for consideration

[1:57:59] Voice 2: here for the LTC, should logistically a special meeting not be possible before, say, the week

[1:58:13] Voice 2: of September 14th, and the LTC desires to have a first reading, would the LTC, the LTC

[1:58:22] Voice 2: Casey could decide or could give first reading today and provide amendments or give further direction for amendments or change, update the bylaw and give second reading after the community information meeting.

[1:58:39] Voice 2: So that's an option as well. If there is a desire to give first reading for these particular changes today.

[1:58:47] Voice 2: day um my what i'm flagging is my concern with the the availability of time with

[1:58:55] Voice 11: we

[1:58:55] Voice 2: understand september so if

[1:58:58] Voice 2: if that weren't um able to be possible with uh staff making those

[1:59:04] Voice 2: comments and being able to assemble that information um but just because planners

[1:59:09] Voice 2: isn't here to inform that um that's that's another aspect of flagging as well

[1:59:15] Trustee Stamford (probable): okay uh

[1:59:16] Trustee Stamford (probable): Trustee Stamper.

[1:59:17] Trustee Stamford (probable): So given that kind of information, I think just for clarity,

[1:59:26] Trustee Stamford (probable): first reading is proof of concept moving to public engagement.

[1:59:33] Trustee Stamford (probable): That's as far as it's going.

[1:59:36] Trustee Stamford (probable): I think it's worth at least looking at that motion today

[1:59:42] Trustee Stamford (probable): and then working from there

[1:59:45] Voice 10: afterwards,

[1:59:46] Trustee Stamford (probable): because it really is.

[1:59:49] Trustee Stamford (probable): It's not to have anything even started along the legislative process

[1:59:57] Trustee Stamford (probable): after this many years.

[2:00:00] Trustee Stamford (probable): It is my last opportunity.

[2:00:03] Trustee Stamford (probable): I've worked really hard on this.

[2:00:06] Trustee Stamford (probable): It is about the knowledge and experience that I've gained over the last two terms on this project that I think I would like to, once we've done the original motion, maybe we need to change the word on the original motion to consider first reading today.

[2:00:26] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yeah, we just have to amend it and then, yeah.

[2:00:28] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yeah. And then the checklist could always be done at second reading. It doesn't have to be done at

[2:00:32] Trustee Patrick (probable): first reading. It just has to be done before third reading.

[2:00:35] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yeah. That's what I consider.

[2:00:37] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yeah. Trustee Bernardo?

[2:00:40] Voice 5: Right. First, referring to RPM Jamrat's reference to second reading, I don't think it's appropriate

[2:00:47] Voice 5: for us to be precipitate in racing towards structuring all this to race towards second

[2:00:52] Voice 5: reading before the election. We do have to have the public engagement and it does need to...

[2:00:57] Trustee Stamford (probable): I just think first.

[2:00:59] Trustee Stamford (probable): Yeah,

[2:00:59] Voice 5: but, you know, I'm supporting what I believe I'm hearing from Trustee Stamford, that what we want to do is establish the first reading, and then, you know, the process can undertake its usual, you know, procedures and setting up proper public engagement for that to be discussed.

[2:01:19] Voice 5: With respect to doing the checklist against the trust policy statement, yeah, I know that's a procedural thing and it's a requirement within the SAF operational structure to do that.

[2:01:35] Voice 5: I tell you, I'd be darn shocked if Planner Zupanek had sort of missed something on the policy side.

[2:01:42] Voice 5: I'm pretty confident this is going to pass that.

[2:01:44] Voice 5: And even if it doesn't, as others have mentioned, that checklist is going to get reviewed at a different time.

[2:01:50] Voice 5: Okay, we're kind of, you know, running a little roughshod over the operational procedures within staff. Sorry, but, you know, my only reservation, but I will defer to Trustee Sanford on this, is I have a little anxiety that if we pass, do first reading today, and if she wants to go in that direction, I'll support it.

[2:02:17] Voice 5: but I would anticipate at the community information meeting when we're there to discuss

[2:02:23] Voice 5: the shoreline stuff this may create a certain amount of confusion and friction but you know

[2:02:31] Voice 5: if we're prepared to take that chance we're prepared to take that chance we can be an open

[2:02:35] Voice 5: book and we can just debate things and the public would probably appreciate it finally as

[2:02:40] Voice 5: as trustee Patrick mentioned in passing,

[2:02:43] Voice 5: just for the sake of clarity,

[2:02:45] Voice 5: if we do proceed with first reading,

[2:02:46] Voice 5: I do believe we should have,

[2:02:48] Voice 5: let's have the first motion.

[2:02:51] Voice 5: To amend as discussed first, so that's on the table.

[2:02:55] Voice 5: And then that's where it gets first reading.

[2:02:57] Trustee Patrick (probable): All right, so Lisa, did you have a motion to approve?

[2:03:06] Trustee Patrick (probable): As amended?

[2:03:07] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yeah, here it goes.

[2:03:08] Trustee Patrick (probable): I moved

[2:03:12] Trustee Stamford (probable): that the Gambier Island Local Trust Committee

[2:03:17] Trustee Stamford (probable): request staff to amend the proposed bylaw number 163

[2:03:22] Trustee Stamford (probable): as discussed in the July 21st, 2025 Gambier Island Local Trust Committee meeting.

[2:03:29] Planner (probable): I'm not clear if we can do this and go to first reading.

[2:03:35] Planner (probable): so sonia's which her advice before she left and knowing that coming

[2:03:41] Planner (probable): to this meeting was that she

[2:03:43] Planner (probable): did not advise for greeting at this meeting but so and i just want to be clear that i don't think

[2:03:49] Planner (probable): this resolution would work for first reading i think it needs to be specific specific that would

[2:03:56] Planner (probable): be because this was just amending a draft bylaw we were going to bring the draft file back to you

[2:04:01] Planner (probable): review okay then you review it and you get first reading so could

[2:04:05] Trustee Patrick (probable): we give lisa there weren't that

[2:04:07] Trustee Patrick (probable): many changes to make it specific yeah

[2:04:10] Planner (probable): so yeah i just wanted to be clear that we're going against

[2:04:13] Planner (probable): the planner's advice and i'm not

[2:04:17] Planner (probable): entirely clear on all of the factors that

[2:04:19] Planner (probable): could we

[2:04:22] Trustee Stamford (probable): um take a five minute break and get those specific amendments lisa

[2:04:27] Trustee Patrick (probable): would you be

[2:04:27] Trustee Patrick (probable): able to assemble a motion with the specific changes yes

[2:04:35] Voice 8: chair patrick i can do that all

[2:04:37] Trustee Patrick (probable): right how much time do you need five minutes

[2:04:40] Trustee Patrick (probable): perfect all right we're going to take a five

[2:04:43] Trustee Patrick (probable): minute uh trustee bernardo uh

[2:04:45] Voice 5: shouldn't we pass this resolution first give it give

[2:04:48] Voice 5: it to lisa

[2:04:48] Voice 5: that lisa then no

[2:04:52] Trustee Patrick (probable): she's just going to make a specific motion

[2:04:54] Voice 11: that will be very specific

[2:04:55] Trustee Patrick (probable): specific the it'll be an a motion to amend not requesting staff to amend it'll be the ltc

[2:05:01] Trustee Patrick (probable): amends the

[2:05:02] Trustee Patrick (probable): following points

[2:05:03] Voice 5: okay okay got it that's

[2:05:05] Trustee Patrick (probable): the structural difference in the resolution

[2:05:07] Trustee Patrick (probable): then we can see it yeah and then you can then you can give first reading to the bylaw as amended

[2:05:13] Trustee Patrick (probable): yeah and

[2:05:13] Voice 5: i would ask just for the ease of the subsequent discussion after five ten minutes that

[2:05:18] Voice 5: the changes be blacklined um so that you know uh

[2:05:22] Trustee Patrick (probable): they won't be blacklined let's let's not overdo

[2:05:24] Trustee Patrick (probable): Lisa they're going to be as well as you can a list yeah a list yeah we don't want to put too

[2:05:32] Voice 5: much on

[2:05:32] Trustee Patrick (probable): Lisa all right

[2:05:33] Voice 5: well I don't think blacklining is that hard no

[2:05:36] Trustee Patrick (probable): it's a problem

[2:05:37] Trustee Patrick (probable): yeah to put it in a motion yeah yeah okay

[2:05:40] Voice 5: all right all

[2:05:41] Trustee Patrick (probable): right so we're going to take a brief

[2:05:42] Trustee Patrick (probable): recess then until the motion's ready all

[2:05:46] Voice 10: right so

[2:06:10] Voice 5: should we just hang around while we're waiting

[2:06:12] Voice 5: for it to happen yeah

[2:06:13] Trustee Patrick (probable): just hang tight for a few minutes okay

[2:06:17] Voice 10: apologies to

[2:06:28] Voice 5: staff we really don't want to make life miserable for you but we're probably

[2:06:33] Voice 5: gonna do it anyhow so Laura in the break here we

[2:07:21] Trustee Patrick (probable): are recording still and live

[2:07:23] Trustee Patrick (probable): streaming so okay

[2:07:26] Voice 10: but we're

[2:07:29] Trustee Patrick (probable): muted in the room here so

[2:07:31] Voice 12: are

[2:07:39] Voice 5: we free to talk off the

[2:07:40] Voice 5: record or not uh

[2:07:43] Trustee Patrick (probable): no you're not i don't want to do i want to know if there was anything i should say

[2:07:46] Voice 12: of course

[2:07:47] Voice 5: okay understood hello

[2:10:55] Trustee Patrick (probable): lisa just uh when you're ready you can just uh put that up

[2:10:59] Trustee Patrick (probable): on the screen and we'll start when you're ready

[2:11:01] Voice 8: noted chair patrick i just need another minute

[2:11:07] Voice 12: no no worries

[2:13:13] Trustee Patrick (probable): yes anyone that is uh watching us live stream we're just uh waiting for a

[2:13:18] Trustee Patrick (probable): a very detailed resolution to be prepared to

[2:13:40] Voice 12: make this up.

[2:13:41] Voice 12: All

[2:13:55] Trustee Patrick (probable): right, trustees, just take a moment and read through that motion

[2:13:58] Trustee Patrick (probable): and make sure you're satisfied with it.

[2:14:42] Trustee Stamford (probable): Yeah, that's about it from my perspective.

[2:14:47] Voice 5: I believe that does the job.

[2:14:50] Planner (probable): Just a small thing.

[2:14:51] Planner (probable): It should be amend draft bylaw.

[2:14:54] Trustee Patrick (probable): Okay.

[2:14:55] Trustee Patrick (probable): So, yeah, amend draft bylaw instead of proposed.

[2:14:58] Trustee Patrick (probable): There we go.

[2:14:58] Trustee Patrick (probable): All right. If you think that's good, then one of you needs to read that motion.

[2:15:07] Trustee Stamford (probable): I move that the Gambier Island Local Trust Committee amend draft bylaw number 163 by 1 reference the islands as Gambier Island to Altamuch in item 2.1 and throughout the document to add the word that between policies and relate in item 2.2.

[2:15:25] Trustee Stamford (probable): In the last paragraph of historical context of Gambier's island section, change cultural heritage of the Squamish Nation to cultural heritage of the Squamish Nation and other Indigenous governing bodies.

[2:15:37] Trustee Stamford (probable): Number four, changing the first sentence of the third paragraph of the Indigenous acknowledgement and reconciliation section to future policy development and land use planning decisions should be grounded in respect for Indigenous interests.

[2:15:49] Trustee Stamford (probable): Number five, in the second sentence of protection of archaeological sites change for 98% of the time to for the vast majority of time.

[2:15:59] Trustee Stamford (probable): Number six, in the reconciliation as planning framework section in the paragraph following points A through D change existing legal interest to existing property rights.

[2:16:09] Trustee Stamford (probable): And number seven, in the reconciliation objectives, section point one, change to Gambier Island to Outlawich and throughout the bylaw.

[2:16:18] Trustee Stamford (probable): Finally, number eight, in the reconciliation objectives, section point five, change, respond to the generous guidance and teachings to acknowledge the guidance and teachings that have been shared.

[2:16:32] Trustee Patrick (probable): All right. Is there a second?

[2:16:35] Voice 5: Second.

[2:16:36] Trustee Patrick (probable): By Trustee Bernardo, any discussion?

[2:16:38] Trustee Patrick (probable): I think it's been discussed.

[2:16:39] Trustee Patrick (probable): I'll call the vote all those in favor

[2:16:42] Trustee Patrick (probable): and that carries

[2:16:44] Trustee Patrick (probable): so then if we were to

[2:16:47] Trustee Patrick (probable): give it first reading what would the

[2:16:49] Trustee Patrick (probable): resolution

[2:16:51] Trustee Patrick (probable): say

[2:16:54] Trustee Patrick (probable): Gambier local trust committee

[2:16:57] Planner (probable): proper

[2:16:58] Planner (probable): citation

[2:17:07] Trustee Patrick (probable): Gambier island local trust committee

[2:17:08] Trustee Patrick (probable): bylaw number 163

[2:17:10] Trustee Patrick (probable): but

[2:17:11] Planner (probable): then there's usually that cited as

[2:17:13] Planner (probable): cited as

[2:17:21] Trustee Patrick (probable): Gambier island official community

[2:17:23] Trustee Patrick (probable): plan something something number yeah oh here oh it's cited as it's number one in the bylaw this

[2:17:33] Trustee Patrick (probable): bylaw may be cited for all purposes as gambier island official community plan bylaw number 73

[2:17:38] Trustee Patrick (probable): 2001 amendment number 1 2006 there it is it

[2:17:45] Planner (probable): needs to be that gambier island local trust committee

[2:17:48] Planner (probable): bylaw number blank cited as a citation if you read it first time

[2:17:54] Trustee Patrick (probable): all right lisa are you pulling

[2:17:56] Trustee Patrick (probable): all that together so

[2:17:59] Trustee Patrick (probable): Gambier and local trust committee

[2:18:02] Trustee Patrick (probable): one moment please

[2:18:05] Trustee Patrick (probable): we're making you guys work

[2:18:07] Trustee Patrick (probable): today sorry in the heat

[2:18:08] Trustee Patrick (probable): but we appreciate it

[2:18:17] what

[2:18:21] Voice 5: is the heat over there what's the temperature

[2:18:23] Voice 5: over in Gambier

[2:18:24] Voice 5: well they

[2:18:25] Voice 12: said 30

[2:18:27] Trustee Stamford (probable): I mean that's

[2:18:30] Trustee Stamford (probable): the hottest for the summer

[2:18:31] Trustee Stamford (probable): as far as I know

[2:18:33] Trustee Stamford (probable): it was toasty

[2:18:36] Trustee Stamford (probable): last

[2:18:36] Trustee Patrick (probable): night although it says 25

[2:18:37] Trustee Stamford (probable): 25

[2:18:37] Trustee Patrick (probable): on my app. All right,

[2:18:40] Trustee Stamford (probable): here we go.

[2:18:41] Trustee Patrick (probable): So, let's take a look at this.

[2:18:42] Trustee Patrick (probable): So, I'm just getting ready. I want to be ready first time. It looks pretty straightforward.

[2:18:53] Trustee Patrick (probable): Does that look good? Would you like

[2:18:56] Voice 5: to do the honors? I would like to

[2:18:57] Trustee Patrick (probable): do that. Please do the

[2:18:58] Voice 5: honors. Just a little technical quick question for Planner McClurger. It's implicit, but just

[2:19:05] Voice 5: just because I'm an anxious person,

[2:19:06] Voice 5: the language here captures,

[2:19:09] Voice 5: when we're citing bylaw number 163, et cetera, et cetera,

[2:19:14] Voice 5: that is referencing the thing we just did,

[2:19:16] Voice 5: the amended draft.

[2:19:18] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yep, because we've amended it.

[2:19:20] Voice 5: The

[2:19:20] Trustee Patrick (probable): motion amended it.

[2:19:21] Trustee Patrick (probable): So yes, thank you for checking, but go ahead.

[2:19:25] Trustee Patrick (probable): I move that the

[2:19:27] Trustee Stamford (probable): Gambier Island Local Trust Committee

[2:19:32] Trustee Stamford (probable): bylaw number, oh, I see.

[2:19:34] Trustee Stamford (probable): Bylaw number 163 cited as Gambier Island

[2:19:37] Trustee Stamford (probable): and official community plan bylaw number 73 2001 amendment number one 2026 be read a first time

[2:19:45] Trustee Patrick (probable): is there a second i

[2:19:48] Voice 5: second i second the uh the motion all

[2:19:51] Trustee Patrick (probable): right any discussion

[2:19:53] Voice 5: yes i'd like to speak to the motion go

[2:19:55] Trustee Patrick (probable): ahead um

[2:19:57] Voice 5: i do support the motion i think it's timely i think

[2:20:01] Voice 5: for in part for the reasons as Trustee Stamford expressed before but I also

[2:20:09] Voice 5: feel it's important to put on the record that I have some reservations about it

[2:20:18] Voice 5: and I'll explain why not with the substance of it what we're doing here is

[2:20:24] Voice 5: taking the first step to making reconciliation central to land planning

[2:20:27] Voice 5: on Gambier. That's staking out a political position that goes beyond the usual calculus

[2:20:36] Voice 5: for land planning. It's also appropriate because that's in fact what DRIPA directs us to do.

[2:20:43] Voice 5: So I don't

[2:20:44] Voice 5: have a problem with the broad policy direction expressed by the proposed language.

[2:20:52] Voice 5: My concern is that I have some unease and again that may be more my problem than anybody else's.

[2:21:02] Voice 5: it may have something to do with the way I think about things and my habit of applying critical

[2:21:11] Voice 5: analysis to everything, whether it deserves it or not. I'm worried a little bit, not a lot,

[2:21:18] Voice 5: but a little bit about the risk that what we're saying with this proposed OCP amendment

[2:21:25] Voice 5: risks being misunderstood as setting the stage for some kind of program that would give precedence to

[2:21:33] Voice 5: first nation interests over those of it doesn't do that okay no like

[2:21:42] Voice 5: please um i i i'm i'm aiming for some clarity here it doesn't do that a fair and reasonable

[2:21:52] Voice 5: reading of what we've just done today is that it's about recognizing and respecting first

[2:21:58] Voice 5: nations interests full stop there's nothing wrong with that it's overdue how that will shake

[2:22:06] Voice 5: out in terms of concrete action is another matter and very much subject to the LTC's

[2:22:12] Voice 5: obligation to be fair to everyone.

[2:22:14] Voice 5: And I'm confident it will be.

[2:22:15] Voice 5: And I'm confident that going forward, that we are going to operate firmly within the

[2:22:21] Voice 5: boundaries of our jurisdiction and what our mandate is, that we're not going to do some

[2:22:24] Voice 5: crazy radical stuff.

[2:22:26] Voice 5: We just, that's not what we do.

[2:22:28] Voice 5: Where I'm coming from here is, and the way I see the problem is that we are living in

[2:22:35] Voice 5: a time where willful misunderstanding is a thing. It's routinely deployed in the service of, let's

[2:22:45] Voice 5: be honest, intolerance. That's the environment that we're operating in. So we need to do the

[2:22:52] Voice 5: right thing. And I think we did that today. But we have to be sensitive about the environment

[2:22:59] Voice 5: that we're operating in um my concern and again as i said before uh that may be my over sensitivity

[2:23:08] Voice 5: and anxiety about these things is i i'm concerned that we not feed into the bad faith and that's

[2:23:14] Voice 5: what it is that's out there because frankly um if we don't notice that it's growing we're not

[2:23:21] Voice 5: paying attention and we've got to manage that i'd feel a lot better if what we were saying in this

[2:23:27] Voice 5: was framed in language that did more to acknowledge reconciliation as part of a larger plan

[2:23:35] Voice 5: to recognize and bring together the interests of all Gambier Island residents and people with

[2:23:42] Voice 5: interest in it and I think over the long term we will do that this is just the first stage

[2:23:48] Voice 5: when the OCP is completed I think it will and I'm pretty confident the direction will be to have

[2:23:55] Voice 5: that kind of more holistic balanced um expression of a future for the island but you know again i'm

[2:24:05] Voice 5: a little anxious about the i guess the tactics of it at this stage uh but i am confident over

[2:24:11] Voice 5: the long run that we're going to be looking at an ocp that is going to set the stage for

[2:24:15] Voice 5: land planning that's positive for everybody as i keep trying to tell you maybe i'm overthinking it

[2:24:21] Voice 5: but the reason I'm doing that is reconciliation is too important for us to to bobble it we need

[2:24:30] Voice 5: to be sensitive to the risks around us I've gotten around I've gotten my head around that that's why

[2:24:37] Voice 5: I'm supporting this I'm not opposing this and I'm not trying to qualify my support of it I'm just

[2:24:43] Voice 5: kind of at this stage taking the opportunity to kind of send the message out to ourselves

[2:24:53] Voice 5: ourselves and to the staff that we need to be sensitive about the environment we're in,

[2:24:57] Voice 5: but also to the community in general, that we're being careful here. We're not being careless.

[2:25:03] Voice 5: We're not being thoughtless about the interests of other people. We know what they're thinking.

[2:25:07] Voice 5: We know what their concerns are. We're on it. And I take a lot of comfort from the fact that

[2:25:12] Voice 5: Trustee Sanford, who is more attuned than anybody else to the interests of her community,

[2:25:17] Voice 5: is more than okay with this first step. She's been leading it. Because, you know,

[2:25:23] Voice 5: among other things, and as we've discussed today,

[2:25:26] Voice 5: first reading is by its nature provisional.

[2:25:28] Voice 5: We'll be hearing from Denver residents,

[2:25:31] Voice 5: we're gonna listen and whoever's on the LTC

[2:25:35] Voice 5: at that time is gonna listen because that's the job.

[2:25:39] Voice 5: And in that context, I hope,

[2:25:42] Voice 5: I think it would have been helpful for me

[2:25:45] Voice 5: that in the course of this,

[2:25:46] Voice 5: if staff's recommendation had been accompanied

[2:25:49] Voice 5: accompanied by some larger objective historical context

[2:25:58] Voice 5: that supplemented the perspective put forward

[2:26:00] Voice 5: by Squamish Nation.

[2:26:01] Voice 5: I know that very much informs

[2:26:03] Voice 5: where Squamish Nation is coming from.

[2:26:05] Voice 5: They know what they're talking about,

[2:26:07] Voice 5: but that's why I think it probably would have been helpful

[2:26:10] Voice 5: to have more of that on the record.

[2:26:14] Voice 5: And I think it'll be important for public engagement

[2:26:16] Voice 5: going forward that we do that.

[2:26:18] Voice 5: so maybe we can make that forward going uh make that happen going forward but the bottom line is

[2:26:23] Voice 5: i do support this i think it is the right thing to do but i'm trying to sound a note of caution here

[2:26:29] Voice 5: that um we need to conduct ourselves i know as an organization that we're sensitive to the community

[2:26:37] Voice 5: concerns out there i'm just trying to sign a note of caution that we need to be

[2:26:40] Voice 5: seen to demonstrate that to demonstrate our sensitivity that's all i'm saying thank you

[2:26:45] Voice 5: All

[2:26:46] Trustee Patrick (probable): right. Thank you. Go ahead, Trustee Stafford.

[2:26:51] Trustee Stamford (probable): Thank you, Trustee Bernardo, about your comments for this first reading. I just want to clarify

[2:26:59] Trustee Stamford (probable): that the only point I have concern about, as you said, DRIP had directed us to do this,

[2:27:06] Voice 10: and

[2:27:07] Trustee Stamford (probable): that's not accurate. Our policies of the Islands Trust are principles that we've adopted

[2:27:13] Trustee Stamford (probable): opted through the trust council

[2:27:15] Trustee Stamford (probable): and with the local trust committee is a commitment

[2:27:19] Trustee Stamford (probable): to move forward in reconciliation, regardless of DRIPPR.

[2:27:25] Trustee Stamford (probable): But I hope that's taken in the context

[2:27:29] Trustee Stamford (probable): what it's meant to be.

[2:27:31] Trustee Stamford (probable): So that.

[2:27:33] Voice 5: And I acknowledge that, that's fair comment

[2:27:35] Voice 5: and you're right, thank you.

[2:27:38] Trustee Patrick (probable): No, I agree, this is the OCP is just setting out

[2:27:43] Trustee Patrick (probable): general policy. And our work is not reactive. It is principled. And we're moving in a way that

[2:27:53] Trustee Patrick (probable): reflects our mandate and our values. And that's what's important.

[2:27:58] Voice 5: What I meant by that, just to

[2:28:00] Voice 5: be clear, is Christy Sampson is quite right. I would stress as a head of the curve on this.

[2:28:07] Voice 5: uh but the other bit is also true uh we are also now under a statutory obligation to do

[2:28:13] Voice 5: what we had all the organization already committed itself to do but i appreciate

[2:28:16] Voice 5: trustee stanford's clarifications it is appropriate thank you

[2:28:20] Trustee Patrick (probable): thank you all right

[2:28:22] Trustee Patrick (probable): i need further discussion through

[2:28:25] Planner (probable): the chair i'll add one more piece so typically after first

[2:28:29] Planner (probable): reading uh the bio must go to referral right so

[2:28:32] Planner (probable): i don't have a list of referrals nor do i

[2:28:35] Planner (probable): I think it would be good practice to send out a bylaw to referral the

[2:28:39] Planner (probable): purpose of a new locally elected committee coming in.

[2:28:44] Planner (probable): And so this is again,

[2:28:46] Planner (probable): and it'll just sit at first reading until potentially 2027.

[2:28:51] Voice 5: We actually haven't voted on this yet though. I don't think.

[2:28:54] Planner (probable): Yeah. So I'm just saying, yeah,

[2:28:55] Planner (probable): I was just adding that as a little piece of information.

[2:29:00] Trustee Patrick (probable): Okay. All right. Any further discussion? Otherwise I will call the vote.

[2:29:04] Trustee Patrick (probable): all those in favor aye aye all right that carries so thank you uh staff for indulging us in a little

[2:29:14] Trustee Stamford (probable): bit different process but uh it's outside the norm that seems to be our standard modus operandi

[2:29:22] Trustee Patrick (probable): we just like to keep things interesting all right well let's uh sort out next steps uh

[2:29:28] Trustee Patrick (probable): on that and we'll keep moving forward okay and for new business we do have one item it's the

[2:29:35] Trustee Patrick (probable): stewardship award you had drafted a motion a suggested motion did we need to do that um

[2:29:42] Trustee Patrick (probable): you

[2:29:43] Planner (probable): might want to have a little bit of discussion around that so this is a stewardship awards um

[2:29:49] Planner (probable): kind of gathering to honor the two recipients who i believe both live on keats island um so this is

[2:29:57] Planner (probable): for the LTC to kind of...

[2:30:00] Planner (probable): organized and staff can support but uh there is a motion to allow spending of up to 150 dollars

[2:30:07] Planner (probable): i believe out of ltc budget just to provide food and refreshments and um yeah there's anything else

[2:30:15] Planner (probable): that you want to discuss regarding dates location um i think that one of the recipients is only

[2:30:21] Planner (probable): available mid-august and later and it really should be done in this term because it's kind

[2:30:26] Planner (probable): of this LTC honouring these recipients.

[2:30:30] Trustee Patrick (probable): All right.

[2:30:31] Trustee Stamford (probable): Do you have some plans?

[2:30:32] Trustee Stamford (probable): Well, I'm admittedly a little confused because I have been working

[2:30:37] Trustee Stamford (probable): with somebody at the Victoria office, I think.

[2:30:43] Trustee Stamford (probable): Chloe?

[2:30:44] Trustee Stamford (probable): Yeah.

[2:30:45] Trustee Stamford (probable): She'll support.

[2:30:47] Trustee Stamford (probable): But my understanding was we were going to do it at one of the CIMs

[2:30:52] Trustee Stamford (probable): on Gambier in person that both recipients said they were available to come for that in person.

[2:30:59] Trustee Stamford (probable): I think it's August.

[2:31:02] Trustee Patrick (probable): Dan Rogers said he was going to see them on

[2:31:04] Trustee Stamford (probable): the 4th. Yeah, and that the 4th

[2:31:08] Trustee Stamford (probable): both were available. And so now I just recently understand that one is not available and will

[2:31:13] Trustee Stamford (probable): only be available on Keats sometime mid-August. That's understand. So I'm a little bit back-footed

[2:31:20] Trustee Stamford (probable): here i don't because i have already worked with somebody locally on cambier to provide

[2:31:26] Trustee Stamford (probable): a little cake and refreshments uh just to acknowledge this um so yeah i'm could we keep

[2:31:35] Trustee Stamford (probable): things flexible

[2:31:36] Trustee Patrick (probable): to see if it's still possible to pull it together on the floor so could we keep

[2:31:40] Trustee Patrick (probable): things a bit flexible i know we're running out of time quite yeah i don't know what to suggest

[2:31:43] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yes, because the resolution just has money.

[2:31:46] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yeah, that's just for, yeah.

[2:31:47] Planner (probable): So if you do the resolution,

[2:31:49] Trustee Patrick (probable): that's just money.

[2:31:51] Trustee Patrick (probable): Okay.

[2:31:53] Trustee Patrick (probable): Then Lisa's got the, there's the motion.

[2:31:56] Trustee Patrick (probable): And then we could still flexibly try to see

[2:32:01] Trustee Patrick (probable): if we can pull that together on the fourth

[2:32:03] Trustee Patrick (probable): because that would be nice to do it then

[2:32:04] Trustee Patrick (probable): because we're all here.

[2:32:06] Planner (probable): Except if the recipients.

[2:32:07] Trustee Patrick (probable): If the other person cannot, yeah.

[2:32:09] Trustee Patrick (probable): Then we'd have to look at plan B.

[2:32:11] Trustee Patrick (probable): Okay.

[2:32:12] Trustee Patrick (probable): Okay. So is

[2:32:14] Trustee Stamford (probable): it okay, Joe? I'll just read this off.

[2:32:15] Trustee Patrick (probable): Go ahead.

[2:32:16] Trustee Stamford (probable): Far away.

[2:32:17] Trustee Stamford (probable): Yeah. I move that the Gambier-on-Local Trust Committee authorize up to $150 to be used to host a community stewardship award celebration event.

[2:32:26] Trustee Stamford (probable): Is

[2:32:27] Trustee Patrick (probable): there a second?

[2:32:28] Voice 5: Second.

[2:32:29] Trustee Patrick (probable): Okay. My trustee Bernardo, any discussion? All the vote. All those in favor? That carries.

[2:32:35] Trustee Patrick (probable): carries so we can either coordinate it with the fourth and if that person is not available then

[2:32:41] Trustee Patrick (probable): we'll have to look at a plan b and

[2:32:44] Trustee Stamford (probable): i could mean going into the next term then because i don't

[2:32:46] Trustee Stamford (probable): know what to suggest so yeah

[2:32:49] Trustee Patrick (probable): all right see what we can do okay um then that's going to keep on

[2:32:56] Trustee Patrick (probable): going we have a series of reports here um applications report any questions on applications

[2:33:02] Trustee Patrick (probable): applications, trustees expense report, your adopted policies and standing resolutions

[2:33:07] Trustee Patrick (probable): are here. There are no updates, then that means the active projects report is page 126.

[2:33:21] Trustee Patrick (probable): Don't see anything changing there. And then the future projects list, which I can't stand,

[2:33:28] Trustee Patrick (probable): is 16.2 and then that means our upcoming meetings we've got a series coming we have an electronic

[2:33:40] Trustee Patrick (probable): meeting on july 30th at 10 a.m we have a in-person meeting on august 4th here at 3 p.m these are all

[2:33:50] Trustee Patrick (probable): community information meetings and we have a in-person meeting on august 5th in north vancouver

[2:33:56] Trustee Patrick (probable): the John Brathwaite Community Center.

[2:34:01] Trustee Patrick (probable): And these

[2:34:02] Trustee Patrick (probable): are for?

[2:34:03] Trustee Patrick (probable): Community information meetings on the shoreline.

[2:34:06] Trustee Patrick (probable): Yep, the shoreline DPA guidelines.

[2:34:09] Trustee Patrick (probable): Thank you.

[2:34:12] And

[2:34:13] Trustee Stamford (probable): then we have a resolution for Trustee Bernardos.

[2:34:18] Voice 5: Yes, unfortunately, I can't make it in person to any of those meetings.

[2:34:23] Voice 5: And given the structure of the meeting bylaw,

[2:34:26] Voice 5: I need a resolution in order for me to permit to permit me to attend the August 5th meeting

[2:34:33] Voice 5: electronically okay

[2:34:35] Trustee Stamford (probable): um so are we ready sure I'll just move it I moved it to Gambier Island local

[2:34:41] Trustee Stamford (probable): trust committee approved trustee Bernardo's electronic participation in the August 5th

[2:34:45] Trustee Stamford (probable): 2026 special community information meeting I'll

[2:34:48] Trustee Patrick (probable): second that is there any discussion

[2:34:50] Trustee Patrick (probable): session to all the vote all those in favor and that carries thank

[2:34:55] Voice 5: you and

[2:34:56] Trustee Patrick (probable): that means for this

[2:34:57] Trustee Patrick (probable): body the next regular meeting of the uh local trust committee is scheduled for november 24th

[2:35:04] Trustee Patrick (probable): at 10 a.m it'll be an electronic meeting i think it's going to be primarily an orientation session

[2:35:09] Trustee Patrick (probable): for the new trustees wow and election on october 17th and so there'll be new trustees at that time

[2:35:19] Trustee Patrick (probable): so well there might be Joe's running again all right well with that their motion to adjourn

[2:35:26] Trustee Patrick (probable): no

[2:35:27] Voice 5: no I think we should have a motion thanking Kate Louise Stamford I'm serious in this Kate

[2:35:33] Voice 5: Louise Stamford I move the Kate Louise Stamford receive our expression of gratitude for her many

[2:35:42] Voice 5: any years of service and commitment to the Gambier local trust area.

[2:35:50] Voice 5: And I hope somebody will second that because I want to speak to the motion.

[2:35:53] Trustee Patrick (probable): Oh, of course I'll second that. Was there any question?

[2:35:56] Trustee Patrick (probable): But no buts or cautions. Okay. Just go with it.

[2:36:02] Voice 5: There are, there are no, there's no quibbling,

[2:36:04] Voice 5: none of the usual quibbling from me.

[2:36:08] Voice 5: Kate and I don't necessarily see eye to eye on everything,

[2:36:10] Voice 5: everything, but I don't think anybody can question the depth of her commitment. She

[2:36:18] Voice 5: works very hard. And that comes from a place of really caring. That's why she's going to

[2:36:23] Voice 5: carry on with the Sunshine Coast Regional District. I anticipate and I hope for her

[2:36:30] Voice 5: it will be fulfilling. Island Trust work has its moments, but it can be a slog and it's

[2:36:40] Voice 5: It's very hard to get things done, and I'm happy for her that we managed to get this little piece of the OCP revision done, but I just want to thank Kate for her commitment and for her effort.

[2:36:53] Voice 5: Thank you, Kate.

[2:36:55] Trustee Stamford (probable): Thank you very much, Joe.

[2:36:56] Trustee Stamford (probable): I appreciate it.

[2:36:58] Trustee Stamford (probable): I'm not ready to make any grand statements yet because it doesn't seem real, but I really appreciate the work that the committees, the council members, the staff, the talent and the depth of commitment to the Island's Trust.

[2:37:18] Trustee Stamford (probable): There's never a lack of that, and that's where the passion and the discussions come from.

[2:37:23] Trustee Stamford (probable): So I really, really have enjoyed my time with the Islands Trust.

[2:37:29] Trustee Stamford (probable): And you never know, we might fall apart in the next four years and come running back.

[2:37:35] Trustee Stamford (probable): It seems to be that happens.

[2:37:37] Trustee Stamford (probable): I've noticed there's a trend here.

[2:37:39] Trustee Stamford (probable): But no, I will never get tired of being part of the trust.

[2:37:43] Trustee Stamford (probable): And I'm not going that far, hopefully.

[2:37:45] Trustee Stamford (probable): So you haven't heard the last of me.

[2:37:49] Trustee Patrick (probable): Well, it is an absolute honor to serve with you.

[2:37:51] Trustee Patrick (probable): and with that i'll call the vote all those in favor that's gary okay all right so we need a

[2:38:01] Trustee Patrick (probable): motion to adjourn so moved

[2:38:04] Trustee Patrick (probable): also second we are so adjourned thank you

[2:38:07] Trustee Patrick (probable): everybody thank you everyone

[2:38:08] Trustee Patrick (probable): have a great warm day and hopefully the weather returns to something realer all right okay

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