Islands Trust Council regular meeting, February 1, 2021

[0:00:00] Voice 9: Oh, sorry, Chair Rogers. I've just started broadcasting and the live stream now.

[0:00:06] Trustee Rogers: Thank you very much.

[0:00:09] Voice 5: You'll tell us later.

[0:00:11] Trustee Rogers: I will. Good afternoon, everyone. I'm just going

[0:00:21] Trustee Rogers: to wait a few minutes while the attendees arrive in the room online with us. We've gotten some,

[0:00:32] Trustee Rogers: and we'll wait for a few more to come, and then we'll start the meeting. Thank you.

[0:00:37] Trustee Rogers: whenever i'm doing this jane i always think of the door opening at the south hall people walking in

[0:01:13] Trustee Rogers: when we start and always having to wait because there's always a few that show up right at 12 30

[0:01:19] Trustee Rogers: or 12 31 which is fine yeah i imagine it's exactly like that it

[0:01:28] Voice 5: is it is all

[0:01:31] Trustee Rogers: right well we seem to

[0:01:33] Trustee Rogers: have stabilized uh for the moment i expect we may have a few more people here as we go on through

[0:01:41] Trustee Rogers: the morning. Hopefully everyone's able to join us. Good morning, good afternoon. This is the

[0:01:47] Trustee Rogers: regular meeting, the first regular meeting of 2021 of the Galeano Local Trust Committee.

[0:01:58] Trustee Rogers: Just the way the schedule works, we met in December and now we're meeting

[0:02:02] Trustee Rogers: on February the 1st. I'm very happy to be here and I'd like to

[0:02:08] Trustee Rogers: start by, of course, acknowledging with great respect and gratitude that we're meeting across

[0:02:17] Trustee Rogers: the traditional territories of the Coast Salish peoples. If you're on Galliano this morning,

[0:02:23] Trustee Rogers: of course, the traditional home of the Penelope peoples, I'm actually joining you from the

[0:02:31] Trustee Rogers: traditional territories of the Muscovy of Tsleil-Waututh and Squamish peoples, Squamish peoples,

[0:02:39] Trustee Rogers: and I know that some of our staff will be joining you from Victoria and there, and I encourage

[0:02:45] Trustee Rogers: anyone who wishes to share in the chat your own sense of gratitude and your own views or

[0:02:53] Trustee Rogers: or how you're feeling about where you are

[0:02:56] Trustee Rogers: and if you wish to related to our cultural history

[0:03:01] Trustee Rogers: and the history of thousands of years

[0:03:05] Trustee Rogers: of indigenous residency in these areas.

[0:03:10] Trustee Rogers: Do either of the trustees wish to make acknowledgement

[0:03:13] Trustee Rogers: starting 2021 or say anything about the reconciliation

[0:03:17] Trustee Rogers: or First Nations issues before we carry on?

[0:03:19] Trustee Rogers: I've started this habit with Gabriela

[0:03:21] Trustee Rogers: where both trustees occasionally say something

[0:03:24] Trustee Rogers: if they wish to.

[0:03:26] Trustee Rogers: If not, that's fine, we can just continue.

[0:03:29] Voice 5: I could just say that what I have said before,

[0:03:33] Voice 5: and I think it's maybe good to hear again,

[0:03:36] Voice 5: that land acknowledgements do not exist in a past tense

[0:03:40] Voice 5: or historical context.

[0:03:43] Voice 5: Colonialism is an ongoing problem.

[0:03:45] Voice 5: We need to build our understanding of the present role

[0:03:47] Voice 5: of this, in this, of our present role in this

[0:03:50] Voice 5: and commit to working with Indigenous peoples for change. Our mandate to preserve and protect

[0:03:55] Voice 5: includes preserving and protecting the cultural heritage of this area.

[0:03:59] Trustee Rogers: Okay, thank you, Wilberton. So, Trustee Rockefeller, you're fine?

[0:04:08] Trustee Rogers: Thank you. So, this is the regular meeting of the Galliano Local Trust Committee. Hi,

[0:04:15] Trustee Rogers: My name is Dan Rod.

[0:04:16] Trustee Rogers: Uh-oh, what did I do?

[0:04:18] Trustee Rogers: Oh, sorry.

[0:04:19] Trustee Rogers: We're continuing our, sorry, I hit a button and everybody disappeared.

[0:04:24] Trustee Rogers: We're continuing with our electronic meeting format, which is not without challenges.

[0:04:31] Trustee Rogers: We're doing our best in our ongoing attempts and process to abide by the public health

[0:04:38] Trustee Rogers: orders to keep everybody safe, but continue to have an open and inclusive process for

[0:04:44] Trustee Rogers: everyone involved please bear with us as we work our way through these electronic meetings

[0:04:49] Trustee Rogers: um we are um we are i think we're getting really good at them but there are occasionally

[0:04:55] Trustee Rogers: uh glitches and of course they for all of us they are not a a really a an adequate replacement for

[0:05:02] Trustee Rogers: being able to be there in person um i have said this before i miss coming to galeano and having

[0:05:08] Trustee Rogers: my walk up the uh up from the ferry terminal for the south hall uh i must admit i've never walked

[0:05:14] Trustee Rogers: all the way to the north wall but um the uh the uh in and it's it's uh it's a shame not to be able

[0:05:22] Trustee Rogers: to be on the islands these days and it looks like it's going to be a while before we are uh i'm dan

[0:05:28] Trustee Rogers: rogers as i said i'm the chair i sit on the executive committee of uh the islands trust uh

[0:05:34] Trustee Rogers: I'm elected on Lek Tynes, or in the Gambier Local Trust area. Lek Tynes is Keats Island, and I'm very pleased to be here.

[0:05:43] Trustee Rogers: As a member of the executive, I'm assigned as the chair of a number of local trust committees as a third trustee.

[0:05:50] Trustee Rogers: I also am the chair of Maine Island's local trust committee and Gabriela's local trust committee.

[0:05:56] Trustee Rogers: And my role here is to chair the meeting

[0:06:01] Trustee Rogers: and also to be one of the trustees that will vote

[0:06:04] Trustee Rogers: and consider the various items that come onto our agenda.

[0:06:08] Trustee Rogers: You will know, of course, you are two local trustees.

[0:06:11] Trustee Rogers: You'll see on your screen, Jane Wolverton

[0:06:14] Trustee Rogers: and Tahira Rockefeller, hi.

[0:06:18] Trustee Rogers: You'll see currently on your screen, Carly Bilney,

[0:06:21] Trustee Rogers: who's the recorder.

[0:06:22] Trustee Rogers: Hi Carly, nice to see you.

[0:06:23] Trustee Rogers: and you'll see Maple Hung who's on the screen she's running the show behind the scenes she's

[0:06:29] Trustee Rogers: doing all the technical work for us thank you very much Maple and you may hear me talk to either

[0:06:34] Trustee Rogers: Maple or Carly as we go along just to make sure that we have our work that things are working as

[0:06:41] Trustee Rogers: as smoothly as we can however both of them will likely turn their cameras off we're currently on

[0:06:49] Trustee Rogers: On your screen, you'll see the Island Planner for Galeano,

[0:06:53] Trustee Rogers: Brad Smith, who you'll hear from from time to time today.

[0:06:57] Trustee Rogers: Hi, Brad.

[0:06:58] Trustee Rogers: And you'll also see the Regional Planning Manager,

[0:07:01] Trustee Rogers: Robert Kojima, who's a very familiar face on Galeano.

[0:07:06] Trustee Rogers: And he doesn't join us all the time anymore,

[0:07:09] Trustee Rogers: but he's here to talk to an item on the agenda.

[0:07:13] Trustee Rogers: And also as a resource, you may see some other staff attend

[0:07:16] Trustee Rogers: as we go a little farther into the agenda as well.

[0:07:22] Trustee Rogers: So thank you all for being here.

[0:07:25] Trustee Rogers: As I said, the process is that you will see us

[0:07:29] Trustee Rogers: on your screen throughout the meeting.

[0:07:34] Trustee Rogers: Our cameras are, unless there's technical issue,

[0:07:37] Trustee Rogers: our cameras are on throughout.

[0:07:40] Trustee Rogers: For the attendees here today,

[0:07:43] Trustee Rogers: you will you will you're sitting sort of in a waiting room technologically with

[0:07:50] Trustee Rogers: until the appropriate times for people to make comments or speak to the local trust committee

[0:07:56] Trustee Rogers: at that point you will be promoted to the other the other room if you will and you'll be able to

[0:08:04] Trustee Rogers: turn your camera on and and speak to us and but in the meantime when you're not there when

[0:08:12] Trustee Rogers: and you're in the waiting room while you're able to observe

[0:08:15] Trustee Rogers: and to hear everything that's going on,

[0:08:18] Trustee Rogers: your camera and your microphone are off.

[0:08:24] Trustee Rogers: So that's the process that we use

[0:08:26] Trustee Rogers: and so far it works very well.

[0:08:28] Trustee Rogers: Today, there will be a couple of,

[0:08:29] Trustee Rogers: at least three opportunities for individuals to speak to us.

[0:08:34] Trustee Rogers: We have a couple of town halls as per usual

[0:08:36] Trustee Rogers: and there's a public hearing on the agenda

[0:08:38] Trustee Rogers: at which point you'll be able to, of course,

[0:08:42] Trustee Rogers: have an opportunity to speak to us that you're our time to listen to you about

[0:08:47] Trustee Rogers: a particular bylaw

[0:08:48] Trustee Rogers: proposed bylaw amendment if you're an applicant and i've heard that the applicant the kings

[0:08:55] Trustee Rogers: on the agenda will be here they'll have an opportunity to speak as well when their

[0:09:00] Trustee Rogers: application comes on so that's sort of a process that we're going to work through i'll talk some

[0:09:06] Trustee Rogers: tomorrow we get to town hall about the process

[0:09:11] Trustee Rogers: during town hall.

[0:09:12] Trustee Rogers: And again, I'll be speaking again

[0:09:14] Trustee Rogers: as we get to the public hearing

[0:09:17] Trustee Rogers: and community information meeting and public hearing.

[0:09:20] Trustee Rogers: But for the moment that's,

[0:09:24] Trustee Rogers: we're going to move on to the agenda.

[0:09:26] Trustee Rogers: So I'm going to ask the trustees

[0:09:30] Trustee Rogers: whether there is anything you wish to add

[0:09:36] Trustee Rogers: or change in relation to the agenda that's on trustees.

[0:09:42] Trustee Rogers: I'm seeing nothing, thank you very much.

[0:09:45] Trustee Rogers: So we'll take the agenda approved as presented,

[0:09:49] Trustee Rogers: which takes us to the first item on the agenda,

[0:09:51] Trustee Rogers: which is the trustee reports.

[0:09:53] Trustee Rogers: So I see Trustee Wolverton's mic is unmuted,

[0:09:56] Trustee Rogers: so I'll start with you.

[0:10:00] Voice 5: Okay, so it's been a couple of months

[0:10:03] Voice 5: And I've been meeting with residents by phone at the trust office or outdoors, but all at a physical distance and with masks.

[0:10:15] Voice 5: Also attended the Regional Planning Committee meeting by Zoom and the December Trust Council meeting.

[0:10:23] Voice 5: I've been hearing from a lot of residents that they're feeling a bit dispirited with the continued pandemic and restrictions that we're all operating under.

[0:10:33] Voice 5: and as well a little concerned about the influx of visitors. On the tourism dashboard

[0:10:43] Voice 5: it's noted that in 2020 in the Gulf Islands north and south there were 4,100,000 passengers

[0:10:53] Voice 5: and this was down about 24 percent and this compares to 3,600,000 to the Sunshine Coast

[0:11:02] Voice 5: and 6,210,000 to Victoria, Vancouver, and Nanaimo.

[0:11:07] Voice 5: So we're still, I think, feeling the pressure of visitors on the island,

[0:11:16] Voice 5: even though there's no non-essential travel that people are supposed to be abiding by,

[0:11:25] Voice 5: not traveling unless it's essential.

[0:11:27] Voice 5: So, you know, I hear a lot of kind of grumbling about that and concern, especially with the new variants that are just coming into the community, not our community.

[0:11:40] Voice 5: Luckily, we are still without any cases here.

[0:11:44] Voice 5: That's all.

[0:11:49] Trustee Rogers: Thank you, Trustee Wolverton, Trustee Rockefeller.

[0:11:52] Voice 6: I just want to let the community know that the 2021-22 budget consultation is out and available for comment.

[0:11:59] Voice 6: i've posted the links both on instagram and facebook thanks thanks

[0:12:06] Trustee Rogers: trustees and thanks for

[0:12:07] Trustee Rogers: all your work um on the island and within the island's trust um i should we're beginning of

[0:12:15] Trustee Rogers: february here we're sort of we're between uh trust councils i'll just give you a little update on

[0:12:21] Trustee Rogers: what's going on at the both the executive and the trust council level um we had a trust council in

[0:12:27] Trustee Rogers: December actually it was before our our last meeting of the LTC was like like three or four

[0:12:35] Trustee Rogers: days before and so many things have occurred since then there have been a number of meetings of the

[0:12:43] Trustee Rogers: trust programs committee which is working on the trust policy statement and we're continuing that

[0:12:48] Trustee Rogers: that work we're getting input on a number of the committee is getting input on a number of

[0:12:55] Trustee Rogers: of issues related to what shouldn't shouldn't be in the trust policy statement and there is now

[0:13:00] Trustee Rogers: in addition to the consultation related to the um the budget there's now a consultation out

[0:13:07] Trustee Rogers: related to the some further questions on the trust policy statement so you should watch

[0:13:12] Trustee Rogers: look for that i i think that's very easy to find and hopefully yeah trustee respark fellow

[0:13:16] Trustee Rogers: sorry you put your

[0:13:19] Voice 6: hand i was just

[0:13:19] Voice 6: saying i'll post it on the the social medias for galliano

[0:13:23] Voice 6: as well thanks very

[0:13:24] Trustee Rogers: much so that's out there as well um while these while these um uh timelines

[0:13:31] Trustee Rogers: are maybe variable there is a a discussion planned for uh trust council in march around

[0:13:38] Trustee Rogers: some of the scope of of the um trust policy statement and and at some point hopefully

[0:13:45] Trustee Rogers: in the spring maybe even before the june trust council there's a plan to

[0:13:51] Trustee Rogers: who perhaps even start to consider some potential language

[0:13:54] Trustee Rogers: for an amendment to the trust policy statement,

[0:13:57] Trustee Rogers: which has a number of gaps in it

[0:13:59] Trustee Rogers: that have been identified that we're aware of.

[0:14:03] Trustee Rogers: Meanwhile, of course, all the other,

[0:14:05] Trustee Rogers: there's a bunch of other work still going on.

[0:14:08] Trustee Rogers: There's a governance review process happening.

[0:14:11] Trustee Rogers: You can watch that online if you're interested.

[0:14:13] Trustee Rogers: It's four o'clock this afternoon.

[0:14:16] Trustee Rogers: There's a committee that's been struck to do that.

[0:14:21] Trustee Rogers: There is also the budget that Trustee Rockefeller mentioned,

[0:14:24] Trustee Rogers: which is always leads to lots of debate

[0:14:27] Trustee Rogers: and a fair amount of input.

[0:14:29] Trustee Rogers: And we really encourage people to have input on our budget.

[0:14:33] Trustee Rogers: We had over, I think it was something like 800

[0:14:36] Trustee Rogers: and some odd people put, which was by about threefold

[0:14:41] Trustee Rogers: the most we've ever had make comments

[0:14:44] Trustee Rogers: on our budget last year.

[0:14:45] Trustee Rogers: And it's all taken into account

[0:14:46] Trustee Rogers: and all the trustees read it all to see what the direction

[0:14:49] Trustee Rogers: and the feeling of the residents of the islands are.

[0:14:55] Trustee Rogers: Watch for a couple of other things coming out of the trust

[0:14:57] Trustee Rogers: in the next little while.

[0:14:58] Trustee Rogers: You may recall we had a couple of climate change workshop webinars

[0:15:03] Trustee Rogers: in the fall, one around eelgrass, one around rainwater harvesting,

[0:15:08] Trustee Rogers: and I think the other one was around sustainable planning.

[0:15:12] Trustee Rogers: This year, we're planning those, but from some more climate change,

[0:15:17] Trustee Rogers: but from an Indigenous perspective.

[0:15:19] Trustee Rogers: I haven't seen any of the details of those yet but that's the generic description that's been

[0:15:27] Trustee Rogers: identified as the way forward for that. The executive committee continues to meet of course

[0:15:32] Trustee Rogers: and we're already starting our planning for the March trust council which is I believe the second

[0:15:39] Trustee Rogers: week of March. We'll have another LTT before it which should be an interesting and full meeting.

[0:15:47] Trustee Rogers: so those are some of the things that are happening at the trust you'll hear a bit

[0:15:51] Trustee Rogers: more about some of them today as we talk about water so that's my report so um thank you very

[0:16:00] Trustee Rogers: much uh so we're going to move now to item four on the five on the agenda which is town hall

[0:16:06] Trustee Rogers: and questions um so sorry you're just email um so uh if uh so this is your opportunity to speak

[0:16:21] Trustee Rogers: to your local trust committee about something that's on our agenda um or something that's um

[0:16:27] Trustee Rogers: uh that you think should be on our agenda or within the jurisdiction of the trust

[0:16:32] Trustee Rogers: a couple of things i'd like to remind you of this is uh this is um um uh a a workplace for

[0:16:41] Trustee Rogers: everybody you see in front of you and it's also a safe place for everybody in the community

[0:16:45] Trustee Rogers: and it needs to remain that way so this is we ask you if you're going to speak during the town hall

[0:16:51] Trustee Rogers: or and i'll say the same thing as we get to the public hearing um it's important that you address

[0:16:56] Trustee Rogers: the local trust committee that you be respectful of people around you you address issues and not

[0:17:01] Trustee Rogers: personalities and you refrain from any inappropriate language. All those things are

[0:17:07] Trustee Rogers: an important part of a meaningful and respectful conversation. And having said that, I'm quite

[0:17:15] Trustee Rogers: confident we will be able to respect those. So the way this will work will be, yeah, did you want to

[0:17:22] Trustee Rogers: say something?

[0:17:23] Voice 5: I just, should I excuse myself?

[0:17:27] Trustee Rogers: Well, I was about to say, so the way this is

[0:17:31] Trustee Rogers: going to work technologically is in the bottom middle of your screen, there's a raise hand

[0:17:37] Trustee Rogers: button. And if you wish to speak in the town hall, and please, if you're going to speak in

[0:17:46] Trustee Rogers: the public hearing, you do not need to, and we'd ask you not to speak in the town hall about the

[0:17:51] Trustee Rogers: same issue related to bylaw 275, save your comments for the public hearing, which is what

[0:17:57] Trustee Rogers: but that whole time period is intended for.

[0:18:02] Trustee Rogers: So you would hit the screen,

[0:18:05] Trustee Rogers: raise the hand button in the middle of the screen

[0:18:08] Trustee Rogers: and put your hand up.

[0:18:11] Trustee Rogers: So if you could do that and let me know

[0:18:13] Trustee Rogers: if anybody wishes to speak to us related

[0:18:16] Trustee Rogers: to something that's not in the public hearing,

[0:18:21] Trustee Rogers: and then I'll divide them out

[0:18:23] Trustee Rogers: in case anybody wishes to speak to the Giggers Matter,

[0:18:26] Trustee Rogers: which is what Trustee Wolverton

[0:18:28] Trustee Rogers: was going to recuse herself for.

[0:18:30] Trustee Rogers: But if nobody's going to speak to us in the town hall,

[0:18:34] Trustee Rogers: then she doesn't have to recuse herself.

[0:18:39] Trustee Rogers: Okay, I see one hand.

[0:18:48] Trustee Rogers: Okay, Mr. Rybak, could you promote Mr. Rybak

[0:18:51] Trustee Rogers: and Mr. Rybak, maybe you could just flag right

[0:18:53] Trustee Rogers: at the beginning whether you intend to speak

[0:18:55] Trustee Rogers: on the Giggers matter or not.

[0:19:09] Trustee Rogers: You need to unmute yourself, Stephen.

[0:19:11] Trustee Rogers: Ah, there we go.

[0:19:23] Trustee Rogers: Yes, I can hear you now.

[0:19:25] Trustee Rogers: No, you've muted yourself again.

[0:19:39] Voice 13: Okay, now we

[0:19:40] Voice 13: can hear you.

[0:19:41] Voice 13: Okay, I'm sorry.

[0:19:43] Voice 13: I've been clicking the wrong way.

[0:19:48] Voice 13: What I wanted to speak about was an issue that was raised by Trustee Wolverton in previous meetings.

[0:19:55] Voice 13: And that was the desire of people to rid our island of derelict cars, water tanks, stoves, and other metal things sitting in the bushes.

[0:20:11] Voice 13: It's been my observation over the last 25 years when I pass some of these things that they are on private property.

[0:20:20] Voice 13: property and the owners of those private uh properties are rarely seen on the island so

[0:20:30] Voice 13: unless you have a very good incentive they're not going to do anything about it and i would suggest

[0:20:39] Voice 13: that there are other issues on this island that could use the ltc's attention as opposed to

[0:20:47] Voice 13: to the removal of old decaying cars, oil tanks, or whatever.

[0:20:53] Voice 13: Thank you.

[0:20:56] Trustee Rogers: Okay, thank you.

[0:20:58] Trustee Rogers: Yeah, Trustee Woolrich.

[0:21:00] Voice 5: Yes, this is a matter that the CRD is looking after now.

[0:21:06] Voice 5: I raised it because it was raised to me,

[0:21:10] Voice 5: but I understand from Emma Davis

[0:21:12] Voice 5: that there is the possibility of someone on Maine Island

[0:21:16] Voice 5: who would like to remove derelict vehicles at no cost.

[0:21:22] Voice 5: So I am asking her to follow up with that

[0:21:25] Voice 5: and see if that's a possibility.

[0:21:30] Trustee Rogers: Okay, thank you, Mr. Rybak.

[0:21:33] Trustee Rogers: We can move Mr. Rybak back into the attendees section.

[0:21:36] Trustee Rogers: I see no other hands at this point.

[0:21:40] Trustee Rogers: So I'm assuming that nobody wishes to speak

[0:21:42] Trustee Rogers: during this particular town hall.

[0:21:46] Trustee Rogers: There is of course a second one at the end of the meeting and perhaps you will want to speak to us

[0:21:52] Trustee Rogers: at that point we'll revisit that. So with that I'm going to close the Town Hall and we're heading

[0:22:02] Trustee Rogers: into now items six and seven of the agenda which is the community information meeting and the

[0:22:18] Trustee Rogers: uh the the uh and the public hearing so sorry i'm just i this this requires me to read a prepared

[0:22:29] Trustee Rogers: script um so uh now brad planner smith did you want to do a cim before and then do a brief

[0:22:39] Trustee Rogers: your brief statement during the actual public hearing process in addition is that what i

[0:22:44] Trustee Rogers: understand you're going to do sorry

[0:22:55] Planner: just jumping screen to screen um yeah i can i was just going

[0:23:01] Planner: to walk through the up the bylaw quickly and a bit of background on the actual project itself

[0:23:07] Planner: for the cim portion and then i don't have an actual written script portion but i think you

[0:23:12] Planner: asked me a few questions and i speak to that and with respect to submissions and so

[0:23:22] Trustee Rogers: let's go to

[0:23:23] Trustee Rogers: to the community information meeting,

[0:23:24] Trustee Rogers: which is the opportunity for you to present the by-law

[0:23:30] Trustee Rogers: and perhaps take any remaining questions

[0:23:33] Trustee Rogers: related to the by-law before we actually open

[0:23:36] Trustee Rogers: and convene the public hearing.

[0:23:38] Trustee Rogers: So over to you Planner Smith.

[0:23:41] Trustee Rogers: Thank

[0:23:42] Planner: you, Chair Rogers.

[0:23:44] Planner: So just way back on information,

[0:23:47] Planner: this project was brought forward to staff

[0:23:50] Planner: by local trust committee in the spring of 2019 that time the first step was uh doing an inventory

[0:23:57] Planner: of all the different types of uh short-term vacation rentals that were occurring in the

[0:24:01] Planner: galliano island local trust area and uh culminating that information along with some recommendations

[0:24:08] Planner: to local trust committee in a discussion paper that was delivered uh to local trust committee

[0:24:13] Planner: in the summer of 2019 uh following that there was an open house in the fall of 2019 and a short

[0:24:19] Planner: an STVR survey was conducted which provided an opportunity for all the public and stakeholders

[0:24:27] Planner: to provide input following that the local trust committee decided to adopt or decided to go

[0:24:36] Planner: forward with drafting and then adopting at first or at least at first and second reading of

[0:24:43] Planner: bylaw number 275 which essentially removes the ability of the local trust committee

[0:24:49] Planner: to issue a temporary use permit for short-term vacation rental purposes

[0:24:56] Planner: and following that given it was a the kickoff to covid and there was some uncertainty as to

[0:25:02] Planner: how public hearing could occur local trust committee undertook a 60-day comment period

[0:25:07] Planner: and uh and we are now at the point where uh we are at uh moving towards uh public hearing next

[0:25:15] Planner: and this is the opportunity for the community to have any additional questions answered regarding

[0:25:21] Planner: the app or the uh project and the bylaw so i'm just going to quickly share my screen here

[0:25:28] Planner: and the bylaw is very simple but i will uh provide it to you and share that please confirm you can

[0:25:36] Planner: can see that so the the

[0:25:39] Planner: bylaw is an OCP amendment and essentially just removes one section of the

[0:25:44] Planner: OCP from the temporary use permit requirements that speaks to the issuing of temporary use

[0:25:52] Planner: permits for short-term vacation rental purposes and I'm just going to jump to that next and so

[0:25:58] Planner: So here in objective two, part three,

[0:26:04] Planner: all of these sections here, A through G

[0:26:06] Planner: and following on with the following guidance

[0:26:10] Planner: and the bullets ends there.

[0:26:15] Planner: And this one carries over

[0:26:19] Planner: and then the other articles are just reordered.

[0:26:24] Planner: So that is the bylaw and some of the background

[0:26:28] Planner: and I'll pass it back over to you, Chair Rogers.

[0:26:31] Planner: Thank you.

[0:26:32] Trustee Rogers: And because this is a community information meeting,

[0:26:34] Trustee Rogers: I'm going to ask if anybody wishes any clarification

[0:26:39] Trustee Rogers: related to the intent or the purpose of the bylaws.

[0:26:43] Trustee Rogers: This is not the public hearing yet.

[0:26:44] Trustee Rogers: We're not at the stage for,

[0:26:46] Trustee Rogers: it's coming up immediately following this

[0:26:48] Trustee Rogers: as we have your opportunity to have your say.

[0:26:51] Trustee Rogers: But if anybody has any information or questions

[0:26:54] Trustee Rogers: they wish to ask, please raise your hand.

[0:26:57] Trustee Rogers: And again, middle of your screen,

[0:27:02] Trustee Rogers: there should be a raise hand button.

[0:27:03] Trustee Rogers: I'm not seeing any hands.

[0:27:06] Trustee Rogers: Do either of the trustees have any questions

[0:27:08] Trustee Rogers: related to the bylaw at all?

[0:27:10] Trustee Rogers: Like just the technical questions, no.

[0:27:12] Trustee Rogers: No.

[0:27:13] Trustee Rogers: All right, well, that being the case,

[0:27:16] Trustee Rogers: then we'll move on from the community information meeting

[0:27:18] Trustee Rogers: that provides you the information

[0:27:20] Trustee Rogers: related to what we're about to propose.

[0:27:22] Trustee Rogers: I apologize, you're going to hear my voice

[0:27:24] Trustee Rogers: for a little while because there's some formal statements

[0:27:27] Trustee Rogers: I have to make in order to do this appropriately.

[0:27:30] Trustee Rogers: So we're moving on to item 7.1,

[0:27:33] Trustee Rogers: which is the actual public hearing.

[0:27:35] Trustee Rogers: So the public hearing for proposed bylaw number 275

[0:27:39] Trustee Rogers: is now open.

[0:27:40] Trustee Rogers: I wish to welcome everyone in attendance

[0:27:42] Trustee Rogers: and acknowledge that we are meeting

[0:27:43] Trustee Rogers: in the territory of the Coast Salish peoples.

[0:27:47] Trustee Rogers: As you know, my name is Dan Rogers

[0:27:49] Trustee Rogers: and I'm the chair of the Galeano Local Trust Committee

[0:27:51] Trustee Rogers: and I've already introduced your local trustees

[0:27:54] Trustee Rogers: in this half.

[0:27:55] Trustee Rogers: This is, sorry, this public hearing is being convened

[0:28:01] Trustee Rogers: pursuant to section 465 of the Local Government Act

[0:28:06] Trustee Rogers: in order to consider the following proposed bylaws.

[0:28:10] Trustee Rogers: Proposed bylaw cited as Galliano Official Community Plan

[0:28:14] Trustee Rogers: bylaw number 108, 1995, amendment number one, 2020.

[0:28:20] Trustee Rogers: All persons who believe their interest in property

[0:28:22] Trustee Rogers: is affected by the proposed bylaws

[0:28:25] Trustee Rogers: will be given a reasonable opportunity to be heard

[0:28:28] Trustee Rogers: or present written submissions respecting matters

[0:28:30] Trustee Rogers: contained in the proposed bylaws.

[0:28:33] Trustee Rogers: Those wishing to speak should commence their presentations

[0:28:37] Trustee Rogers: by clearly stating their names and address.

[0:28:41] Trustee Rogers: Members of the Local Trust Committee may, if they wish,

[0:28:44] Trustee Rogers: ask questions of you following your presentation.

[0:28:48] Trustee Rogers: However, the main function of the Local Trust Committee

[0:28:50] Trustee Rogers: is to listen to the views of the public.

[0:28:54] Trustee Rogers: It is not the function of the committee members

[0:28:56] Trustee Rogers: to debate the merits of the proposed bylaws

[0:28:59] Trustee Rogers: with individual citizens.

[0:29:01] Trustee Rogers: Everyone will be given a reasonable opportunity

[0:29:03] Trustee Rogers: to be heard and none should feel discouraged

[0:29:09] Trustee Rogers: from presenting his or her views.

[0:29:12] Trustee Rogers: In considering the proposed bylaws,

[0:29:14] Trustee Rogers: the local trust committee has received documents

[0:29:17] Trustee Rogers: which may influence its decision.

[0:29:19] Trustee Rogers: These documents are available for review during this hearing on our website, and as indicated in the public hearing notice.

[0:29:29] Trustee Rogers: Any person who wishes to present a written statement to the Local Trust Committee may do so, and all written submissions must be received by the Local Trust Committee before the close of the hearing.

[0:29:42] Trustee Rogers: I should say that we have of course received a number of written submissions mostly in response to the public outreach but also some recent ones related to the notice of public hearing and we have read all the ones that were received as of the

[0:30:00] Trustee Rogers: this morning so far.

[0:30:01] Trustee Rogers: There is still an opportunity for you to,

[0:30:03] Trustee Rogers: if you would rather send something in writing,

[0:30:09] Trustee Rogers: you can do so by writing to vicph, help me out Maple,

[0:30:15] Trustee Rogers: what is it?

[0:30:19] Voice 9: vicphsubatislandstrust.bc.ca.

[0:30:21] Trustee Rogers: Right, so vicphsubatislandstrust.bc.ca.

[0:30:27] Trustee Rogers: Perhaps at some point we may put that up on the screen

[0:30:30] Trustee Rogers: so you have that opportunity what we will do is once we as we're going as we're we're getting

[0:30:35] Trustee Rogers: near the end of whatever oral submissions receive uh we will stop it we will read the any written

[0:30:43] Trustee Rogers: submissions that we have received and we will um amongst ourselves before we close the public

[0:30:49] Trustee Rogers: hearing your only comment to comment of opportunity to comment on the proposed bylaws is do it during

[0:30:57] Trustee Rogers: during the hearing as members of the local trust committee

[0:31:00] Trustee Rogers: may not receive further submissions

[0:31:02] Trustee Rogers: after the close of the hearing.

[0:31:04] Trustee Rogers: After this public hearing has concluded,

[0:31:06] Trustee Rogers: the local trust committee may without further notice,

[0:31:10] Trustee Rogers: make whatever decision it deems proper

[0:31:12] Trustee Rogers: with respect to the bylaws that are the subject

[0:31:15] Trustee Rogers: of the public hearing.

[0:31:16] Trustee Rogers: For those of you that are here,

[0:31:19] Trustee Rogers: folks may notice that we have this issue back on our agenda

[0:31:22] Trustee Rogers: at page, at item 14.1.

[0:31:28] Trustee Rogers: Island planner Brad Smith will now summarize the public hearing notice key points of the bylaw and referral agency responses over to you by Smith, this is this technical part of the public here.

[0:31:42] Planner: Thank you chair Rogers so I spoke already in the CIA portion about the project and the background of the process.

[0:31:49] Planner: process. What I will speak to here is the bylaw again itself. I will just quickly share it again

[0:31:56] Planner: for anyone that is new just to the public hearing. Sure. So the bylaw amendment is a simple

[0:32:06] Planner: amendment to the OCP to remove the section related to the issuing of temporary use permits for short

[0:32:14] Planner: term vacation rentals. And I'll just quickly show the language in the bylaw. Essentially,

[0:32:19] Planner: Actually, our subsection three starts here and carries down G.

[0:32:25] Planner: And in the CIM, I said that H is removed, but it's actually all part of this subsection under specific to commercial vacation rentals.

[0:32:33] Planner: So, in fact, this whole section is removed and it is renumbered startling at Article 4.

[0:32:40] Planner: So, to date, we've received nine submissions to the public hearing, nine written submissions.

[0:32:48] Planner: local trust committee has received all them as of this morning we have sent them all to them

[0:32:55] Planner: statutory requirements were completed including two consecutive ads in the december edition of

[0:33:03] Planner: the salt spring island driftwood and also as per the requirement of local trust committee's

[0:33:09] Planner: standing resolution it was also published in the galliano active page and so i think that is all

[0:33:18] Planner: that you need from me, Chair Rogers.

[0:33:21] Planner: Thank

[0:33:21] Trustee Rogers: you very much.

[0:33:27] Trustee Rogers: Submissions can be made at any time during

[0:33:29] Trustee Rogers: until the close of the hearing.

[0:33:31] Trustee Rogers: If any submissions are received during the meeting,

[0:33:34] Trustee Rogers: we will pause prior to closing them

[0:33:35] Trustee Rogers: to ensure the LTC has time to review those submissions.

[0:33:38] Trustee Rogers: And as I said, it's vicphsub,

[0:33:42] Trustee Rogers: vicphsub at islandstrust.bc.ca.

[0:33:47] Trustee Rogers: I invite members of the public who wish to speak,

[0:33:50] Trustee Rogers: to raise their hands.

[0:33:55] Trustee Rogers: And please state your name prior to making comments.

[0:34:00] Trustee Rogers: As you raise your hand and I call upon you,

[0:34:03] Trustee Rogers: you will be promoted so that you can turn your microphone

[0:34:06] Trustee Rogers: and or your camera on.

[0:34:08] Trustee Rogers: And you need not turn your camera on if you don't wish to,

[0:34:11] Trustee Rogers: but if you will be able to

[0:34:12] Trustee Rogers: and you will be able to unmute yourself.

[0:34:14] Trustee Rogers: After your presentation to the LTC,

[0:34:17] Trustee Rogers: the trustees may ask you questions,

[0:34:18] Trustee Rogers: but they are primarily here to listen

[0:34:20] Trustee Rogers: and will not debate the issues with you.

[0:34:22] Trustee Rogers: I will call three times for speakers

[0:34:25] Trustee Rogers: before closing the hearing at which point

[0:34:27] Trustee Rogers: no further written or oral submissions.

[0:34:30] Trustee Rogers: I'm going to say that originally,

[0:34:32] Trustee Rogers: initially I'm going to allot five minutes per speaker

[0:34:36] Trustee Rogers: and we'll see how that goes.

[0:34:39] Trustee Rogers: And I will work through the speakers list

[0:34:43] Trustee Rogers: so that those that we hear from first time speakers first

[0:34:48] Trustee Rogers: and then come back to anybody who wishes to carry on.

[0:34:51] Trustee Rogers: So if you wish to address, as I said earlier,

[0:34:55] Trustee Rogers: please keep in mind the cautions I gave

[0:34:58] Trustee Rogers: related to the comments that you make,

[0:35:00] Trustee Rogers: speak to the issues and not to people.

[0:35:03] Trustee Rogers: Please also address the local trust committee

[0:35:07] Trustee Rogers: and not each other,

[0:35:09] Trustee Rogers: and please keep your comments appropriate

[0:35:11] Trustee Rogers: and related to the issues before us.

[0:35:14] Trustee Rogers: um okay so uh so i'm going to call now for the first time for speakers and i see uh stephen

[0:35:24] Trustee Rogers: ryback is the first person on the list who wishes to speak and if we can promote mr uh mr ryback

[0:35:32] Trustee Rogers: and we can um i'll start once he's able to to uh to speak we'll i'll start the time

[0:35:40] Trustee Rogers: I

[0:35:42] Voice 13: guess I'm your designated icebreaker for the meeting.

[0:35:47] Voice 13: I believe the actions that the LTC is considering are somewhat premature.

[0:36:00] Voice 13: And that's not because of the process that has been followed, but by what hasn't been considered.

[0:36:07] Voice 13: The current bylaw gives the LTC a proven, workable, regulatory instrument to manage and control the impacts of STVRs in neighborhoods.

[0:36:22] Voice 13: If you do away with this instrument, what are you going to use in the future?

[0:36:28] Voice 13: that unless you have a replacement, a ready replacement at hand that you can bring in

[0:36:37] Voice 13: while you remove the existing bylaw, you are basically opening the barn door to

[0:36:48] Voice 13: unrestricted STVR proliferation on the island. Thank you. Okay,

[0:36:58] Trustee Rogers: that's the extent. Thank you

[0:36:59] Trustee Rogers: very much um we can move mr ryback back and the next person on our list is mr madan mr madan you

[0:37:16] Trustee Rogers: should be in a position uh where did you go

[0:37:23] Voice 20: karmita

[0:37:30] Voice 5: karmita got promoted in error i believe

[0:37:33] Voice 5: oh yes

[0:37:34] Voice 9: that was my error thanks trustee oliverton i just uh moved uh mr maiden there now yeah thank

[0:37:40] Voice 9: Thank you.

[0:37:42] Trustee Rogers: I'm sorry, I'm not sure.

[0:37:44] Trustee Rogers: I might be mispronouncing your last name.

[0:37:46] Trustee Rogers: I'm sorry, I apologize.

[0:37:48] Trustee Rogers: You're able to unmute yourself

[0:37:50] Trustee Rogers: and if you wish to turn your camera on,

[0:37:52] Trustee Rogers: you're able to do that as well.

[0:37:58] Voice 12: Unmute, can you hear me now, please?

[0:38:00] Voice 12: Yes,

[0:38:00] Trustee Rogers: I can hear, go ahead.

[0:38:02] Voice 12: If you can see me, that's great, if not, I don't.

[0:38:05] Trustee Rogers: I can't, your camera is showing that it's off.

[0:38:09] Trustee Rogers: Okay.

[0:38:11] Voice 12: Okay, I'm not hiding here,

[0:38:12] Voice 12: but I think I'll just proceed and I have to say because it's the auditor that counts really.

[0:38:17] Voice 12: So yeah, you asked first of all that we identify who we are and where we live. It's Eric Medine

[0:38:24] Voice 12: and I am at 4121 Poitiers Pass Road. Yeah, well first of all thanks for allowing me the

[0:38:31] Voice 12: opportunity to speak. You know the main thrust of what I have to say is similar to Mr. Ryback's

[0:38:40] Voice 12: comments that uh i need to advocate for those of us who live here on the island and that are

[0:38:46] Voice 12: reliant on the uh uh short-term vacation rental income that you know that some replacement um

[0:38:55] Voice 12: for the uh tups be uh uh put in place first um you know i realize that there's there's a limited

[0:39:03] Voice 12: time you were saying five minutes for each attendee to speak and as the trustees know i

[0:39:08] Voice 12: I have some personal issues that go to the greater issue,

[0:39:10] Voice 12: but some pretty serious personal issues

[0:39:13] Voice 12: with how this all could affect me.

[0:39:17] Voice 12: But I think I should spend a couple minutes

[0:39:19] Voice 12: talking about the greater issues.

[0:39:21] Voice 12: I want to respond to the email that I received

[0:39:25] Voice 12: from Tahira this morning.

[0:39:27] Voice 12: Very considerate letter, I appreciate it.

[0:39:32] Voice 12: Now, in your letter,

[0:39:38] Voice 12: one of the points that

[0:39:40] Voice 12: you brought up is you say that when

[0:39:42] Voice 12: COVID reduced visitors

[0:39:45] Voice 12: STVRs were

[0:39:46] Voice 12: Mr.

[0:39:47] Trustee Rogers: Medina I don't mean to interrupt you

[0:39:48] Trustee Rogers: but I think we've lost trustee

[0:39:52] Trustee Rogers: Rockefeller

[0:39:54] Trustee Rogers: and if I could just put you on pause

[0:39:56] Trustee Rogers: for a moment while we try and get her back on

[0:39:58] Trustee Rogers: if that's okay I'm sorry I apologize

[0:40:00] Trustee Rogers: I don't like to interrupt but

[0:40:02] Trustee Rogers: I noticed her camera went out but I now notice

[0:40:04] Trustee Rogers: she's not on our list at all so just give me a minute

[0:40:06] Trustee Rogers: let's give us a minute to see if we can reconnect with her she

[0:40:09] Voice 5: she's been put on the um on the uh

[0:40:12] Voice 5: attendee list she should be moved back to the um panelists okay

[0:40:20] Voice 18: maple can you move her back please

[0:40:22] Voice 5: yes it's done thanks she got disabled okay

[0:40:26] Voice 18: thanks sorry mr madine go ahead okay

[0:40:29] Voice 12: all right so um as

[0:40:31] Voice 12: As I was saying, thanks, Trustee Rockefeller

[0:40:34] Voice 12: for your email this morning.

[0:40:37] Voice 12: One point I really want to touch on in that is that you say

[0:40:40] Voice 12: when COVID reduced visitors,

[0:40:42] Voice 12: STVRs were suddenly made available

[0:40:44] Voice 12: for long-term rent to Islanders,

[0:40:46] Voice 12: proving that some will rent long-term

[0:40:48] Voice 12: when unable to operate a commercial vacation rental.

[0:40:52] Voice 12: You know, I just, I want to caution you

[0:40:54] Voice 12: against making decisions based on what happened in April,

[0:40:59] Voice 12: because we all know that was a really really crazy and difficult time um i can well imagine

[0:41:06] Voice 12: that people who never intended to ever put their houses up for long-term rental suddenly finding

[0:41:10] Voice 12: themselves out of work no income big mortgage to pay and no vacation rental income and what

[0:41:16] Voice 12: what do you do you know you in april it was not an option to sell your property

[0:41:22] Voice 12: I've always felt very strongly that people should have their you know the rental income it should

[0:41:30] Voice 12: be either long-term or it should be short-term vacation rental and not going back and forth

[0:41:34] Voice 12: because that's where you really have injustice and you know for those people that are looking

[0:41:39] Voice 12: for long-term rentals on the island but we shouldn't judge anybody on the basis of decisions

[0:41:45] Voice 12: made in April. And I suggest that it's really a problem to project forward. You know, we have a

[0:41:54] Voice 12: completely different real estate market now. It's I mean, it's changed completely. What I would

[0:42:00] Voice 12: like you to consider is that if the trust is going to pressure people, you know, what seems to be

[0:42:08] Voice 12: driving this is that short-term vacation rentals take away from long-term rentals and if the trust

[0:42:17] Voice 12: is going to pressure people to move their properties out of short-term and into long-term

[0:42:22] Voice 12: you know what's is that really going to work what do the numbers say what you know what does the

[0:42:27] Voice 12: money say and i you know i just don't see it we have a very hot real estate market and it just

[0:42:35] Voice 12: makes a lot more sense to just sell your property if you can't continue to do the short-term vacation

[0:42:39] Voice 12: rentals um i've been a landlord before in the past uh of long term and i have no interest in

[0:42:47] Voice 12: doing that um there's you know if you push people to do something with their private property that

[0:42:53] Voice 12: they don't want to do they're probably going to push back and they have every right to i don't

[0:42:57] Voice 12: want to be a long-term landlord aside from the fact that i live in my house and sure it is short

[0:43:04] Voice 12: term vacation rental, but it's not available 365 days a year. I don't even rent my house

[0:43:12] Voice 12: half of the year. So shutting it down as an STVR does nothing for long term rentals because

[0:43:19] Voice 12: that's my home. I'm not going to go and live on my boat in order to make my house available for

[0:43:26] Voice 12: long term rentals. So that's the greater issues. I ask you to give me a minute or two to talk to

[0:43:33] Voice 12: about the the personal how this stuff affects me personally uh as well that does go to greater

[0:43:38] Voice 12: issues too but you know um yeah so as i say it is my home first and my short-term vacation

[0:43:48] Voice 12: rental that provides my primary income um shutting it down would not open it up for for long term it

[0:43:55] Voice 12: would not provide any benefit to any anyone in the community i'm at a point now where uh people

[0:44:01] Voice 12: renting my house will sometimes tell me that they didn't plan on coming to galliano and then decided

[0:44:07] Voice 12: to rent my house they they were referred to me and on the basis what friends had told them about my

[0:44:13] Voice 12: house they decided to to make a trip to galliano there's a benefit to the whole community in what

[0:44:19] Voice 12: i do and there's no benefit in shutting it down now um i've tried to stay on the right side of

[0:44:27] Voice 12: the Alice Trust rules. When you all decided to start to regulate it several years ago,

[0:44:35] Voice 12: I had a long conversation with Rob Milne about what my options were. And because I have a house

[0:44:41] Voice 12: and not two houses, I don't qualify for the rules that you wrote for home occupancy,

[0:44:48] Voice 12: despite the fact that I live here. I live here and I take very good care of my short-term

[0:44:54] Voice 12: vacation rental um but my options were there were no options either i could stay

[0:45:01] Voice 12: non-conforming which as i understand it most people in my situation did or i could pay the

[0:45:08] Voice 12: 1100 and then again another couple hundred dollars a couple years later and then now you're saying

[0:45:15] Voice 12: that you're going to leave me with no legal framework at all under which to operate my

[0:45:20] Voice 12: business and that's not right um i have expressed this that both you know right from the beginning

[0:45:28] Voice 12: when the uh my original tup was granted that there's something wrong with that

[0:45:33] Voice 12: that a person who has two houses gets a free you know there's no charge for a permit but if you

[0:45:41] Voice 12: have one if you're not so fortunate you have to pay eleven hundred dollars and you can get shut

[0:45:46] Voice 12: shut down at any time. We had a considerable exchange of emails. Thank you, both trustees

[0:45:52] Voice 12: and Brad for, you know, responding to my questions about the ethics of this. And what really caught

[0:45:59] Voice 12: my attention in the end is that I don't hear anything from any of the three of you about the

[0:46:05] Voice 12: right and wrong of it. I get a lot of information about, you know, land use bylaws, and this is not

[0:46:11] Voice 12: actually a permitting cost it's a processing application processing fee

[0:46:18] Voice 12: none of that is the answer that I think is really obvious that there's something

[0:46:23] Voice 12: wrong when those who have two homes get a free pass and if you are not so

[0:46:30] Voice 12: fortunate you have to pay for it and you can still be shut down at any time

[0:46:36] Voice 12: basically I you know I'll leave it at that I have had some phone calls and

[0:46:39] Voice 12: and emails with both of you about what happens

[0:46:44] Voice 12: if somebody calls in and makes a complaint.

[0:46:46] Voice 12: And you all know that I have had a similar situation

[0:46:49] Voice 12: to that in the past, and it's been catastrophic in my life.

[0:46:56] Voice 12: And we will have to talk again,

[0:46:58] Voice 12: but I guess that's it for now.

[0:47:00] Voice 12: Thank you very much.

[0:47:01] Voice 12: Mr. Medin,

[0:47:02] Trustee Rogers: there'll be more opportunities

[0:47:05] Trustee Rogers: if you wish to say a bit more.

[0:47:06] Trustee Rogers: Thank you for your input.

[0:47:08] Trustee Rogers: We can move Eric back.

[0:47:10] Trustee Rogers: So if you wish to speak in the public hearing,

[0:47:15] Trustee Rogers: please, this is your opportunity.

[0:47:17] Trustee Rogers: Please raise your hand.

[0:47:19] Trustee Rogers: At this point, I'm going to be moving shortly.

[0:47:22] Trustee Rogers: I see no hands raised.

[0:47:24] Trustee Rogers: So I see one hand, Mr. Moses, Art Moses.

[0:47:34] Trustee Rogers: So if we could, oh, sorry.

[0:47:36] Trustee Rogers: Oh,

[0:47:36] Voice 9: Chair Rogers, Jennifer Marguson raised her hand first.

[0:47:41] Trustee Rogers: Oh, sorry, sorry. She was at the top of my screen and I didn't see it. Yes.

[0:47:45] Trustee Rogers: No worries.

[0:47:46] Trustee Rogers: Yes, if you could promote Jennifer.

[0:47:55] Trustee Rogers: Jennifer, Ms. Margason, it's over to you if you wanted to unmute yourself and

[0:48:01] Trustee Rogers: you're welcome to turn your camera on.

[0:48:06] Voice 2: Thank you. I'm going to leave my camera off because I'm trying to conserve data.

[0:48:11] Voice 2: to thank thank you for the opportunity to speak and i i wasn't planning to speak but i i would

[0:48:19] Voice 2: like to support the views of the two previous speakers um i do not have and have never had a tup

[0:48:27] Voice 2: so i'm not commenting due to any personal impact on me or my property but i do want to question

[0:48:36] Voice 2: in this bylaw, and I have read the report on the issue, it seems to me that this bylaw change

[0:48:43] Voice 2: is a wrong move, and for the following reasons. One argument for this that I'm well aware of is

[0:48:52] Voice 2: that vacation rentals have eliminated long-term rentals. However, I do feel it is unlikely that

[0:49:00] Voice 2: these cottages or houses will appear in the long-term rental market. People who own them,

[0:49:07] Voice 2: and I'm familiar with some of these people, wish to be able to come and to have family and friends

[0:49:13] Voice 2: stay, and they're not prepared to put these houses or cottages in the long-term rental market,

[0:49:19] Voice 2: and I think it's likely that they will just sit empty or they will be sold. There may be a few

[0:49:25] Voice 2: that appear, residences that people never come to. But I wonder if, in fact, these may actually be

[0:49:33] Voice 2: buildings that are in poor shape as living accommodation if, in fact, the owners are not

[0:49:39] Voice 2: coming. And the report on this issue is quite inconclusive as to whether eliminating TUPs

[0:49:50] Voice 2: will really make any difference to the long-term rental market.

[0:49:54] Voice 2: I know another argument is water use, that renters don't care.

[0:49:58] Voice 2: But I do believe there are other ways of requiring cottage rentals to be water observant

[0:50:05] Voice 2: and ones that we should really all have in place.

[0:50:09] Voice 2: And that would be monitors on wells, for example.

[0:50:13] Voice 2: and i wonder whether long-term renters will be any more observant of of water regulations

[0:50:20] Voice 2: and i know another argument is noise from renters with no one there to control it but i'm aware that

[0:50:28] Voice 2: the tup requirements mean that there has to be someone available on the island in case that is

[0:50:35] Voice 2: a problem and i can just say that we have several tups near us and we have never been bothered

[0:50:42] Voice 2: So, as Mr. Ryback stated, I think eliminating TUPs and the structure that presently exists to control them and manage them will just drive the short-term rental market underground, where I think it will be much harder to manage violations than under this permitting system.

[0:51:06] Voice 2: system and I'm also concerned that it will result in lost jobs for those who manage vacation rentals

[0:51:13] Voice 2: and the people who are employed to clean and repair them and result in other lost income for

[0:51:20] Voice 2: example to artists restaurants and events when when we are able to resume some level of tourism

[0:51:27] Voice 2: and Galliano does rely on that so I wasn't planning to but I would just like to add my

[0:51:35] Voice 2: my voice to oppose this by-law change.

[0:51:39] Voice 2: Thank you very much.

[0:51:41] Trustee Rogers: Thank you, Ms. Markeson.

[0:51:44] Trustee Rogers: Now we'll go to Mr. Mosley.

[0:52:05] Trustee Rogers: Hey, Mr. Mosley.

[0:52:06] Trustee Rogers: Mr. Mosley, there you are.

[0:52:08] Voice 15: Sorry for the delay.

[0:52:10] Voice 15: I just wanted to clarify,

[0:52:12] Voice 15: I really wasn't planning on speaking either.

[0:52:15] Voice 15: I just wanted to clarify,

[0:52:16] Voice 15: are the submissions that were made

[0:52:19] Voice 15: in the public comment period,

[0:52:21] Voice 15: period are they considered to be submissions to the public hearing as well well

[0:52:27] Trustee Rogers: just to be clear

[0:52:28] Trustee Rogers: they're they're they're part of the public hearing binder um and so yes we take everything that's

[0:52:37] Trustee Rogers: been submitted to us in fact i as we go through a file like this or any file i keep my own folder

[0:52:45] Trustee Rogers: of everything we receive from the beginning of it till the end and i go back and read them all so

[0:52:50] Trustee Rogers: So the answer to your question is yes.

[0:52:53] Voice 15: Okay, so I don't need to make any further comments

[0:52:57] Voice 15: and because I did submit to the public commentary period

[0:53:01] Voice 15: other than to say that I support this by-law

[0:53:05] Voice 15: that the trustees have brought forward.

[0:53:06] Voice 15: I think that it's the use of TUPs

[0:53:14] Voice 15: to run short-term vacation rentals

[0:53:18] Voice 15: when people don't live on the property

[0:53:20] Voice 15: is a it's kind of an abuse of residential zoning you're essentially running a hotel

[0:53:25] Voice 15: a commercial enterprise in a in a residential area and i think that should not be should not

[0:53:31] Voice 15: be permitted uh except if somebody is living on the property and running it as a home occupation

[0:53:36] Voice 15: i think that's that's fair and as as for that i think you know stvr operators if this bylaw

[0:53:44] Voice 15: passes are going to have to make some decisions how to change their method of operation either

[0:53:50] Voice 15: go rogue and challenge the bylaw enforcement because they'll be out of compliance or more

[0:53:55] Voice 15: positively figure out a way of making it work either by renting a room

[0:54:00] Voice 3: in

[0:54:01] Voice 15: their short-term

[0:54:02] Voice 15: vacation rental to a full-time person who would then manage it on their behalf as a home occupation

[0:54:07] Voice 15: patient or uh or or or uh in the case of maybe uh mr meeton who i i do have a great deal of

[0:54:15] Voice 15: sympathy with this position uh without a second home on the property uh to um move in uh full

[0:54:24] Voice 15: time into a room and rent the rest of his house to uh to vacationers it's not a whole whole house

[0:54:32] Voice 15: but it would be still a very attractive rental nevertheless

[0:54:36] Voice 15: and he'd be able to operate it as a home occupation.

[0:54:41] Voice 15: Thanks a lot.

[0:54:45] Trustee Rogers: Can I, well, I appreciate that Mr. Meaden had spoken

[0:54:49] Trustee Rogers: about his own situation.

[0:54:50] Trustee Rogers: Let's please try and stay away

[0:54:51] Trustee Rogers: from talking about other individuals,

[0:54:54] Trustee Rogers: but I appreciate that as an example.

[0:54:56] Trustee Rogers: Mr. now Jenna Falk would be the next person.

[0:55:14] Voice 18: Yes, we can hear you.

[0:55:15] Voice 18: You can turn your camera on if you wish.

[0:55:18] Voice 8: all right um so my name is jenna falk and i'm at 620 montague road um i do not have an stbr

[0:55:24] Voice 8: um but as someone who's rented here for a number of years i'd like to weigh in um first i just say

[0:55:31] Voice 8: that i would like to um support everything that art moses just said and i wasn't planning on

[0:55:39] Voice 8: speaking but just after hearing a number of comments speaking to doubt around um

[0:55:45] Voice 8: um, coming into long-term vacation rentals. Sorry, sorry, uh, Jenna, I feel like that's a

[0:55:53] Voice 8: bit short-sighted.

[0:55:55] Trustee Rogers: Jenna, just so you know, you said the word doubt, and then we didn't hear the

[0:55:59] Trustee Rogers: next few words you said. You're, you, you phased out, so could you, you said you'd heard people

[0:56:04] Trustee Rogers: express doubt, and then you, if you could start there.

[0:56:08] Voice 8: Yeah, so I was hearing some doubt that

[0:56:10] Voice 8: the commercial vacation rentals would ever turn into long-term rentals and I think that in some

[0:56:18] Voice 8: cases sure there will be property owners who would not choose to convert to long-term rentals and

[0:56:25] Voice 8: that's their right but I think that that's cutting the community a bit short especially for the long

[0:56:31] Voice 8: term when it's an opportunity that we need to make some hard decisions now that may be inconvenient

[0:56:37] Voice 8: to some at the time but it's about our long-term adaptation as a community and having available

[0:56:43] Voice 8: housing and I think that in the long term that will open up housing and I would also just add

[0:56:49] Voice 8: that you know around the tourism thing I think tourism actually makes housing a lot harder on

[0:56:56] Voice 8: this island so bringing less tourists over you might lose some tourism jobs but you might also

[0:57:03] Voice 8: open up a lot of opportunity for community members to do other things and be able to live

[0:57:08] Voice 8: cure full-time, you know, especially with all the remote working that's now opening up. So

[0:57:12] Voice 8: I would just like to add that.

[0:57:16] Voice 18: Okay. Thank you

[0:57:18] Trustee Rogers: very much. The next speaker is Susan,

[0:57:24] Trustee Rogers: I'm going to say Angle. I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly.

[0:57:32] Voice 10: Hi.

[0:57:33] Voice 12: Hi. I'm

[0:57:34] Voice 10: Susan Angel. My cottage is on 1236 Georgia View. I've put in an application for a

[0:57:42] Voice 10: a TUP. I know it's probably the worst time ever to do it. But I did. And I just want to say we've

[0:57:49] Voice 10: owned our property since 2007. We've never rented it full time and have no intention to. I'm unable

[0:57:59] Voice 10: to spend much time on the island right now because of some hardship things that are going on. And it

[0:58:05] Voice 10: it would really suit me. It's personal, of course, but it would suit me to be able to

[0:58:12] Voice 10: have the place occupied while I'm unable to be there. I love Galliano. I consider myself at least

[0:58:19] Voice 10: partly part of the community. I understand the idea about making housing available to others,

[0:58:26] Voice 10: but nevertheless, I am applying for a TUP. And again, the place is very precious to me. So by

[0:58:34] Voice 10: by renting it full-time, I would have no access to it.

[0:58:36] Voice 10: So I'm just saying that I would like to be able

[0:58:39] Voice 10: to get it to UP and that's pretty much all I have to say.

[0:58:42] Voice 10: So thank you.

[0:58:46] Voice 18: Thank you very much.

[0:58:53] Trustee Rogers: Mr. Medin, again, you're still muted, Eric.

[0:59:19] Trustee Rogers: There you go.

[0:59:21] Voice 12: Okay, all right, brief comment only.

[0:59:24] Voice 12: Won't waste anybody's time here.

[0:59:25] Voice 12: I think that's something that many people on the island

[0:59:29] Voice 12: and don't realize is that you know we have a couple of dozen non-conforming people who like

[0:59:35] Voice 12: me looked at this this tup option when it first came out but decided not to to pay the 1100

[0:59:43] Voice 12: they're not you know not all of them are are people that live off island or are just running

[0:59:49] Voice 12: it as a business a lot of them actually do live on their properties the problem isn't that they're

[0:59:54] Voice 12: not here the problem is that you guys don't recognize their type of accommodation as a legal

[0:59:59] Voice 12: home.

[1:00:00] Voice 12: You know, I take as good care of my business as anybody who is running under a home occupation permit, whatever you call it.

[1:00:10] Voice 12: I'm here. I take care of my business. I greet all my guests. I talk to them about water use.

[1:00:16] Voice 12: I talk to them about the best restaurants to go to, et cetera, et cetera. I take care of my business.

[1:00:22] Voice 12: I just don't have a second legal home on my property.

[1:00:25] Voice 12: and the problem with the TUPs is that right from the beginning it's being divided up this way not

[1:00:31] Voice 12: on the

[1:00:31] Voice 12: basis of who does a good job and who is a good neighbor and a good member of the community

[1:00:35] Voice 12: but simply on the basis of whether or not you're wealthy enough to have two houses or one

[1:00:41] Voice 12: that's the change that has to be made so please if you're going to remove this

[1:00:45] Voice 12: bylaw in its present form please first replace it with something that allows people like myself

[1:00:50] Voice 12: who take good care of our businesses

[1:00:51] Voice 12: to continue to operate legally.

[1:00:54] Voice 12: All right, thanks very much.

[1:00:58] Trustee Rogers: Okay, thank you.

[1:01:03] Trustee Rogers: So I see no hands up at the moment.

[1:01:08] Trustee Rogers: I'm going to ask Maple

[1:01:12] Trustee Rogers: whether there have been any written submissions come in?

[1:01:16] Voice 5: There's a hand up.

[1:01:18] Trustee Rogers: Oh, okay, thank you.

[1:01:19] Trustee Rogers: I see there is.

[1:01:20] Trustee Rogers: As soon as I say that, that was her hand.

[1:01:23] Trustee Rogers: um so let's promote uh diane diana lily okay you need to uh can

[1:01:39] Voice 21: you hear me can

[1:01:41] Trustee Rogers: you hear you i

[1:01:42] Trustee Rogers: can't see you but if so you're welcome to turn your camera on if you wish you don't have to

[1:01:46] Voice 21: okay the screen went weird when i did something so i'm not doing anything more

[1:01:52] Voice 21: i speak in support of the proposed bylaw um i think for the reasons that um

[1:02:00] Voice 21: that other people have already given.

[1:02:03] Voice 21: And I thank Jane Wolverton for the numbers

[1:02:07] Voice 21: on the numbers of visitors coming to the island.

[1:02:12] Voice 21: It's very helpful to have that information.

[1:02:16] Voice 21: And that's all I have to say, thank you.

[1:02:18] Voice 18: Thank

[1:02:19] Trustee Rogers: you very much.

[1:02:21] Trustee Rogers: So I'll go back to asking my question to Maple.

[1:02:25] Trustee Rogers: Have we received any written submission?

[1:02:27] Trustee Rogers: I'm

[1:02:28] Voice 9: chair Rogers there has been no submissions received during this time

[1:02:33] Voice 18: okay

[1:02:34] Trustee Rogers: thank you very much

[1:02:34] Voice 18: okay I

[1:02:35] Trustee Rogers: see another hand up and that would be mr.

[1:02:40] Trustee Rogers: Simpson to promote mr. Simpson hi

[1:02:55] Voice 7: am I unmuted yes actually Laurie McCaddy on

[1:02:59] Voice 7: Gary Simpson's computer that's fine so just what

[1:03:03] Trustee Rogers: was your name again

[1:03:05] Voice 7: Lori McHattie. Okay. And

[1:03:07] Trustee Rogers: you live, if you could just state your address, please.

[1:03:11] Voice 7: Oh, 65 Sticks Allison.

[1:03:14] Trustee Rogers: Okay, go ahead.

[1:03:15] Voice 7: And I do have a TUP. And but really, what I want to just

[1:03:19] Voice 7: comment is a point of clarification. Actually, I don't know who but somebody mentioned that

[1:03:24] Voice 7: short term vacation rentals are like a business enterprise. And I think long term, long term

[1:03:31] Voice 7: rentals are also a business enterprise, just different types of money and different types

[1:03:36] Voice 7: of renters. So to kind of like say one is a business and the other one isn't, I think is a

[1:03:42] Voice 7: bit of a misnomer. So I just wanted to clarify that. Okay.

[1:03:48] Voice 18: Thank you. That's it. Okay. Thank

[1:03:51] Trustee Rogers: Thank you very much.

[1:03:52] Trustee Rogers: Anybody else?

[1:03:54] Trustee Rogers: I see no hands up.

[1:03:56] Trustee Rogers: So I'm going to proceed slowly and carefully

[1:04:05] Trustee Rogers: to close the public hearing in the next little while.

[1:04:08] Trustee Rogers: Please note that after the public hearing closes,

[1:04:11] Trustee Rogers: the local trust committee will no longer be able

[1:04:14] Trustee Rogers: to receive public submissions prior to making a decision.

[1:04:19] Trustee Rogers: so I'm asking once more for it once for any more speakers now I'm asking a second time

[1:04:36] Trustee Rogers: for any more speakers and then lastly I'm asking for a third time for any more speakers this is now

[1:04:54] Trustee Rogers: the final opportunity for you to hand in any written submissions to the local trust committee

[1:04:59] Trustee Rogers: committee. Once the hearing is closed, no additional submissions will be accepted. I assume

[1:05:12] Trustee Rogers: that's still the same, Maple. We've received nothing.

[1:05:16] Voice 9: That's correct. We've received nothing.

[1:05:18] Voice 9: Same

[1:05:19] Planner: with me, Chair Rogers. Thank

[1:05:21] Trustee Rogers: you very much. Please be advised, we are now in the

[1:05:25] Trustee Rogers: public hearing is closed. We are now in the post-public hearing stage of the legislative

[1:05:31] Trustee Rogers: legislative review of proposed bylaw number 275.

[1:05:34] Trustee Rogers: The Galeano Local Trust Committee can now no longer

[1:05:37] Trustee Rogers: receive information pertaining to the proposed bylaw.

[1:05:40] Trustee Rogers: However, you can still submit any outstanding questions

[1:05:44] Trustee Rogers: and comments directly to the planner.

[1:05:47] Trustee Rogers: The LTC may give further readings to the bylaw

[1:05:50] Trustee Rogers: or defeat the bylaw or make a minor amendments

[1:05:52] Trustee Rogers: that do not affect the user density

[1:05:55] Trustee Rogers: without further notice or hearing.

[1:05:58] Trustee Rogers: Well, thank you very much for all of your comments

[1:06:00] Trustee Rogers: and just can I say thank you very much for everyone who weighed in on this over the course

[1:06:05] Trustee Rogers: of this project as we've been going through. I was reminded of the thoughtful nature of members

[1:06:12] Trustee Rogers: of your community as I was reading all the public comments we received over the past year or so in

[1:06:19] Trustee Rogers: in relation to this.

[1:06:21] Trustee Rogers: So that takes us back to the main agenda.

[1:06:26] Trustee Rogers: So we're now at a period,

[1:06:30] Trustee Rogers: and I'm sorry, just give me a second

[1:06:32] Trustee Rogers: because everybody okay?

[1:06:33] Trustee Rogers: Does anybody need a brief break?

[1:06:35] Trustee Rogers: Are you okay?

[1:06:37] Trustee Rogers: Terry, you're fine,

[1:06:38] Trustee Rogers: you're fine, Jane.

[1:06:40] Trustee Rogers: We do have a break scheduled in a few minutes,

[1:06:44] Trustee Rogers: but I just wanted to, I need to reopen my agenda package.

[1:06:53] Trustee Rogers: um so we're at page four of the agenda and we have minutes from um the november 28th

[1:07:04] Trustee Rogers: uh meeting which was a special meeting uh as a as a pub community information or

[1:07:13] Trustee Rogers: related to the giggers matter uh over to um the trustees are there any

[1:07:21] Trustee Rogers: changes to the minutes or amendments or questions that arise from either the trustees related to

[1:07:26] Trustee Rogers: those minutes of November the 28th nothing then I'll take those adopted or as presented

[1:07:34] Trustee Rogers: we then have minutes of our last LTC meeting which is December the 7th which start on page

[1:07:44] Trustee Rogers: eight of the agenda package do either of the trustees have any comments or questions related

[1:07:51] Trustee Rogers: to those minutes, no?

[1:07:57] Trustee Rogers: I have one question or comment for the planner

[1:08:02] Trustee Rogers: and perhaps the RPM and I don't necessarily need an answer.

[1:08:08] Trustee Rogers: It's not an amendment to the minutes,

[1:08:10] Trustee Rogers: but it's a question arising related to the minutes

[1:08:12] Trustee Rogers: and it's found at the top of page 13.

[1:08:16] Trustee Rogers: When in answer to some questions we received,

[1:08:20] Trustee Rogers: received the statement was made that the very top bullet on page 13 no red and blue listed species

[1:08:27] Trustee Rogers: have been identified in the proposed affordable housing site according to data available to staff

[1:08:32] Trustee Rogers: I just want to flag and make sure the staff is aware that we received an email I'm going to say

[1:08:39] Trustee Rogers: 10 days ago from some local residents who indicated that they thought that was an incorrect

[1:08:46] Trustee Rogers: correct statement um and we should be sure that if we're that in free term reports if it is

[1:08:52] Trustee Rogers: incorrect or if there are some information related to that we should make sure that it is correct

[1:08:57] Trustee Rogers: um so i assume that flanner smith you know which email i'm referring to

[1:09:02] Trustee Rogers: i

[1:09:03] Planner: received that email as well and what i would say to that is that uh the statement around red

[1:09:09] Planner: or blue listed species uh the ecological assessment has just been submitted by the

[1:09:15] Planner: applicant to me and i need to review that i also need to review the community forest

[1:09:20] Planner: management plan to review uh the specific property location in question and whether there are

[1:09:27] Planner: actually identified red and blue listed species in that two hectare portion or if there are just

[1:09:32] Planner: no one red and blue listed species throughout the community forest and so uh that work along

[1:09:37] Planner: along with a bunch of other outstanding items

[1:09:43] Planner: for local trust committee consideration

[1:09:45] Planner: will be brought forward,

[1:09:46] Planner: planned for the March 1st agenda.

[1:09:48] Planner: And that will give me a couple of weeks here.

[1:09:51] Planner: So that is noted and there's also, yes.

[1:09:55] Planner: So that is certainly noted in something

[1:09:56] Planner: that I will be working to clarify.

[1:09:58] Planner: Right,

[1:09:59] Trustee Rogers: thank you very much.

[1:10:00] Trustee Rogers: I just wanted to make that-

[1:10:01] Planner: Yeah, I was going

[1:10:02] Trustee Rogers: to raise up-

[1:10:03] Trustee Rogers: Known to the observers that that we received

[1:10:06] Trustee Rogers: that the information or the point of view that that was incorrect so we'll be and the

[1:10:10] Trustee Rogers: specific

[1:10:12] Planner: email uh the they're all part of the correspondence record of course but i uh i did flag the specific

[1:10:19] Planner: email around uh there was some specific uh input provided around specific species and i did provide

[1:10:25] Planner: that to the applicant and the consultant for consideration when they were uh uh just finishing

[1:10:32] Planner: up their draft report.

[1:10:33] Planner: So I think that information was at least cross-reference

[1:10:37] Planner: to what Mr. Erickson was reporting.

[1:10:40] Planner: So that will all be verified

[1:10:42] Planner: as I get a chance to look at it.

[1:10:43] Planner: Thank you.

[1:10:43] Planner: Okay.

[1:10:44] Trustee Rogers: And we just have to be careful not getting the specifics

[1:10:46] Trustee Rogers: because trustee Wolverton is with us at the moment.

[1:10:48] Planner: Right.

[1:10:49] Planner: Sorry.

[1:10:49] Trustee Rogers: I just wanted

[1:10:50] Trustee Rogers: to flag that that point of the minutes

[1:10:52] Trustee Rogers: that we'd received.

[1:10:54] Trustee Rogers: We then have a series of pages 16 to 27.

[1:10:59] Trustee Rogers: we have a series of APC minutes which are simply for receipt. Thank you for those. I see they date

[1:11:08] Trustee Rogers: back to December of 2019 and they're there for our information. I'm guessing some of them will

[1:11:15] Trustee Rogers: come to us at some point for action. Are there any questions or queries from either of the

[1:11:21] Trustee Rogers: trustees related to those? Otherwise, we'll just take those received for information.

[1:11:29] Trustee Rogers: Thank you very much.

[1:11:32] Trustee Rogers: Now we go on to item nine,

[1:11:35] Trustee Rogers: which is page 28 of the agenda,

[1:11:37] Trustee Rogers: which is the follow-up action list.

[1:11:42] Trustee Rogers: And I guess I'll turn first to you Planner Smith.

[1:11:46] Trustee Rogers: Do you have any questions,

[1:11:47] Trustee Rogers: comments related to the follow-up action list

[1:11:49] Trustee Rogers: that you'd like to flag for us

[1:11:54] Trustee Rogers: before I turn to trustees for questions?

[1:11:56] Trustee Rogers: uh

[1:11:57] Planner: nothing in specific other than there is still one outstanding item to uh uh support trustee

[1:12:03] Planner: wolverton in uh figuring out a way to get out the cdf flyers to um the public and so we can

[1:12:10] Planner: uh figure out that uh as our uh calendar allows us here all

[1:12:18] Trustee Rogers: right um any questions from trustees

[1:12:20] Trustee Rogers: regarding the follow-up action list nothing from nothing from you trustee rockefeller trustee

[1:12:25] Trustee Rogers: Thank you, Wolverton, anything from you?

[1:12:27] Voice 16: Okay, so

[1:12:28] Trustee Rogers: I'm gonna suggest that before we take our break,

[1:12:31] Trustee Rogers: because we're ahead of schedule, which is great,

[1:12:35] Trustee Rogers: that we perhaps deal with the King application 13.1,

[1:12:41] Trustee Rogers: and then move our meeting break to after that

[1:12:44] Trustee Rogers: before we come back to deal with the items under item 14.

[1:12:49] Trustee Rogers: Is that okay with the, yeah, Trustee Rockefeller?

[1:12:52] Voice 6: I was just wondering, did the planner say

[1:12:55] Voice 6: say that they were going to attend today because i don't see them in the either

[1:12:59] Trustee Rogers: do i they were

[1:13:01] Planner: planning to attend i suggested they show up around half an hour early but uh obviously we're well

[1:13:08] Planner: ahead of that i could email them here if you want and see if they can yeah

[1:13:12] Trustee Rogers: because half an hour

[1:13:13] Trustee Rogers: early would be 2 30 and it's only quarter to two um i don't really want to if they're planning on

[1:13:20] Trustee Rogers: attending i don't really want to proceed with unless if they're not here

[1:13:24] Planner: maybe you could move

[1:13:25] Planner: through some of the other items and i'll uh email them here and see if they can uh jump on sooner

[1:13:31] Planner: if you want me to do that chair rogers um

[1:13:33] Trustee Rogers: that would be fine although i'm i i frankly want to

[1:13:38] Trustee Rogers: not get to the stvr review post public hearing and without a moment to sort of think

[1:13:43] Trustee Rogers: gather my thoughts from the public hearing

[1:13:46] Planner: for that one you could defer that one as well and

[1:13:48] Planner: just move into the more uh mundane items near the end

[1:13:51] Trustee Rogers: oh we could yeah and i i didn't see yet

[1:13:55] Trustee Rogers: um the rpm is here but i didn't see the other folks i thought were going to be here

[1:14:01] Trustee Rogers: um

[1:14:01] Voice 19: william and narissa were probably waiting until closer to three o'clock to join but again

[1:14:06] Voice 19: i could also email them and look them up see if they're

[1:14:09] Trustee Rogers: ready well all three of them you know

[1:14:12] Trustee Rogers: and then they'll all show up and have yeah

[1:14:14] Planner: we should coordinate um

[1:14:18] Trustee Rogers: so i i'm a little

[1:14:20] Trustee Rogers: we'll maybe what we could do is if that's okay maybe what we'll do is that we'll just move into

[1:14:25] Trustee Rogers: the reports uh we'll start with some of the new business see if the kings show up

[1:14:31] Planner: i'll contact them and

[1:14:33] Trustee Rogers: if you could let them know we're ready for them anytime that would be great

[1:14:36] Trustee Rogers: and then we'll move our way back through the rest of the um uh the um of the agenda is that okay

[1:14:45] Trustee Rogers: with the trustees at this point yeah so let's go to item 15.1 which is the work program report

[1:14:51] Trustee Rogers: which is found on page 61 of the agenda um and and this is uh this is our top priorities and uh

[1:15:09] Trustee Rogers: and frankly we probably shouldn't talk about this until we have the water sustainability report so

[1:15:15] Trustee Rogers: So I'm going to skip it too.

[1:15:16] Trustee Rogers: So let's go to 15.2, which is the applications report,

[1:15:21] Trustee Rogers: which is at page 65,

[1:15:23] Trustee Rogers: which sets out the various applications that are pending.

[1:15:27] Trustee Rogers: One of which is on our agenda today.

[1:15:31] Trustee Rogers: And I think we have some notes

[1:15:34] Trustee Rogers: that some of them are coming back in March and April.

[1:15:37] Trustee Rogers: Planner Smith, do you have anything you'd like to flag

[1:15:39] Trustee Rogers: for us related to the various applications?

[1:15:42] Planner: just other than with respect to the gabbro rezoning application she has received a report

[1:15:50] Planner: from the hydrogeologist she's doing some work around her well casing and making sure that

[1:15:57] Planner: meets regulations and so that will probably still be a few months before she gets real

[1:16:03] Planner: assurance around her water supply but she's working towards that and i was also going to

[1:16:09] Planner: to just make the comment that I've contacted

[1:16:11] Planner: the Galeano Conservancy to discuss

[1:16:13] Planner: the Romagnoli application.

[1:16:15] Planner: And from my understanding, it sounds like

[1:16:17] Planner: they're now engaged with the Romagnoli

[1:16:20] Planner: and having some discussions around

[1:16:22] Planner: coming to some agreement on a covenant.

[1:16:24] Planner: And one question they had for local trust committee

[1:16:30] Planner: was around whether it could be more

[1:16:33] Planner: of a conservation covenant than a forest covenant.

[1:16:36] Planner: And as I understand it,

[1:16:37] Planner: that it would need to be a seasonal forestry covenant,

[1:16:40] Planner: but it could be fairly restrictive in its forestry terms

[1:16:43] Planner: to meet the intent of the OCP section

[1:16:47] Planner: that allows for that rezoning.

[1:16:49] Planner: So without any questions,

[1:16:51] Planner: I'll pass it back to you Chair Rogers.

[1:16:54] Trustee Rogers: Okay, any questions related

[1:16:56] Trustee Rogers: to any of the current applications?

[1:16:58] Trustee Rogers: So thank you, we look forward to,

[1:16:59] Trustee Rogers: I know we're going to have some busy meetings

[1:17:03] Trustee Rogers: in March and April, particularly some of these applications

[1:17:06] Trustee Rogers: come back to us and thank you for the updating

[1:17:11] Trustee Rogers: for moving that roll them all up.

[1:17:13] Trustee Rogers: You know what, I'm going to mispronounce

[1:17:15] Trustee Rogers: everybody's last name today.

[1:17:16] Trustee Rogers: They're Roman Yoli applications forward

[1:17:20] Trustee Rogers: as so that we can continue to move matters

[1:17:24] Trustee Rogers: through our agenda.

[1:17:26] Trustee Rogers: We have the on page 69, we have the local expense

[1:17:38] Trustee Rogers: reports which as with most local trust committees particularly with local trustee expenses they're

[1:17:46] Trustee Rogers: you know quite a bit down this year because nobody's traveling anywhere

[1:17:51] Trustee Rogers: anyway is there any questions from trustees related to the what's on page 69 yeah

[1:17:58] Voice 5: yeah I wondered whether we should do a different allocation so it actually reflects

[1:18:05] Voice 5: how we're spending money um especially in the communications area i

[1:18:13] Trustee Rogers: see what you mean um

[1:18:15] Trustee Rogers: you know it's a it's an excellent point um what happens is is that is that there is a standard

[1:18:24] Trustee Rogers: template by which they allocate funds when i say they i mean the the accounting department

[1:18:31] Trustee Rogers: department um and uh but it would make a lot more sense given that if you're going to emphasize

[1:18:37] Trustee Rogers: uh communications that that's where your uh expenses go as opposed to ltc meeting expenses

[1:18:45] Trustee Rogers: now those meeting expenses might be artificially low this year because nobody's traveling

[1:18:50] Trustee Rogers: yeah i

[1:18:51] Trustee Rogers: because i think that's where they put my expenses when i come to the island and things like

[1:18:56] Trustee Rogers: like that but um uh but it is a good point and um you don't know if the planner or if the rpm wants

[1:19:06] Trustee Rogers: to weigh in on how we could get that adjusted so it's more real i mean the bottom line for the

[1:19:11] Trustee Rogers: accounting department is that as long as they don't as long as they don't see us overspending

[1:19:15] Trustee Rogers: i guess they don't care if there's individual items that are not uh that are overspent but i

[1:19:23] Trustee Rogers: I know you guys like are, I don't know, I don't think you like, is that you're focused on

[1:19:28] Trustee Rogers: communication and mail drops and getting information in people's hands, and then $250 doesn't cut it.

[1:19:36] Voice 3: Right.

[1:19:38] Trustee Rogers: RPM.

[1:19:39] Trustee Rogers: I

[1:19:39] Voice 19: do know that, yeah, I do know that finance, as they go into a new fiscal year, does look at some

[1:19:44] Voice 19: of the individual line items and might adjust those to reflect the previous year's spending.

[1:19:50] Voice 19: So you might see a higher communications line next fiscal year, but Chair Rogers is right.

[1:19:57] Voice 19: The reality is the finance really only cares about that bottom line, if you like, the total.

[1:20:06] Trustee Rogers: But, yeah, it would make more sense if there was $1,500 in communications for Galliano as opposed to $250 given so that we don't have to struggle with where the money is going to come from.

[1:20:18] Trustee Rogers: I

[1:20:19] Voice 19: can make a note to that and send it to my director.

[1:20:23] Voice 19: Thank you.

[1:20:24] Trustee Rogers: That'd be great.

[1:20:25] Trustee Rogers: Thanks very much.

[1:20:27] Trustee Rogers: And I just appreciate, just for anybody watching, that that's because the trustees are very focused on trying to do mail drops to get the information in people's hands.

[1:20:38] Trustee Rogers: And those cost whatever they cost.

[1:20:40] Trustee Rogers: I know it's not really expensive, but there's a cost to doing each of those, right?

[1:20:45] Trustee Rogers: right um then we're that that's anything else if there's nothing else related to that we're at 15

[1:20:52] Trustee Rogers: 4 which is adopted policies and standing resolutions uh anything related to that yeah

[1:20:57] Trustee Rogers: trustee rockville um

[1:21:00] Voice 6: i was just noting we have the annual letter to first nations providing a

[1:21:04] Voice 6: schedule of upcoming meetings and update of our current projects and advocacy yep

[1:21:09] Voice 19: so the letters

[1:21:10] Voice 19: uh being being drafted as we speak so there's a version that goes out from all the southern local

[1:21:16] Voice 19: trust committees so um just working on the final final draft of that filling in um the projects and

[1:21:23] Voice 19: the contacts and so on so that should be going out shortly would be prepared under my signature

[1:21:29] Trustee Rogers: uh

[1:21:30] Voice 19: i think the the ones that are going out from the northern ltc is going out under the signature

[1:21:36] Voice 19: of all the executive members oh

[1:21:38] Trustee Rogers: oh okay that's news to me yeah

[1:21:43] Voice 19: it was news to me too but uh

[1:21:45] Voice 19: normally I would have thought it's gone out under the chairs, but yeah,

[1:21:48] Voice 19: before we

[1:21:49] Trustee Rogers: say one way or the other, I'll see it one way or the other.

[1:21:51] Trustee Rogers: I'll see it. Yeah.

[1:21:53] Voice 19: And

[1:21:53] Trustee Rogers: I'll make sure you're copied that you're notified.

[1:22:00] Voice 19: Just one more quick note is as you move forward with the STVR

[1:22:05] Voice 19: consideration of further reading of the STVR bylaws,

[1:22:08] Voice 19: we'll probably come back to you towards the end of the project to look at the

[1:22:12] Voice 19: two standing resolutions related to vacation rentals.

[1:22:15] Voice 19: Correct.

[1:22:18] Trustee Rogers: Let's see what we do with those first. Local Trust Committee web page,

[1:22:23] Trustee Rogers: anything from either of the trustees related to that? Nothing, I see nothing.

[1:22:28] Trustee Rogers: Then we have the Islands Trust Conservancy Report which is from November now.

[1:22:39] Trustee Rogers: It's just a timing thing, it comes out. I've actually liked the new format where they have

[1:22:46] Trustee Rogers: they're very schools attached to it and and then there's some some information related to the

[1:22:53] Trustee Rogers: galliano forest restoration any questions or comments related to the conservancy report

[1:23:01] Trustee Rogers: there's quite today so we've moved our way now through item 15 on the agenda and i don't see

[1:23:07] Trustee Rogers: the Kings here yet, nor do I see, I see Narissa's here, Planner Chadwick's here.

[1:23:19] Voice 19: William's probably not going to make it in time. He's got another commitment today. He was going

[1:23:25] Voice 19: to try and attend around 3, 3.30. So we can

[1:23:29] Voice 19: go ahead with that, the project charter discussion

[1:23:32] Voice 19: discussion for that for the groundwater sustainability project all right

[1:23:36] Trustee Rogers: so uh trustees

[1:23:38] Trustee Rogers: you're okay to continue and go back to 14.2 or does anybody need a break at this point

[1:23:43] Trustee Rogers: you're okay then let's go back to the groundwater sustainability project so for everyone involved

[1:23:49] Trustee Rogers: this is uh 57 page 57 of the agenda and i'm going to turn it over to um i think this is coming from

[1:23:59] Trustee Rogers: you from the rpm it

[1:24:01] Voice 19: is thank you so this is a fairly brief report the project charter attached

[1:24:06] Voice 19: for the local trust committee's consideration and discussion potentially um so you recall at the

[1:24:13] Voice 19: december meeting uh there was a presentation by uh the senior freshwater specialist william shoba

[1:24:20] Voice 19: on the preliminary results of the groundwater sustainability project to date and those that

[1:24:26] Voice 19: that those first phases of the project were mapping and data collection and gathering and

[1:24:32] Voice 19: a final report is pending shortly in the next month or so and at that meeting the local trust

[1:24:40] Voice 19: committee decided to keep the project as a top priority and to at least proceed with considering

[1:24:49] Voice 19: considering implementing the outcome of the mapping project through looking at potential

[1:24:57] Voice 19: amendments to bylaws essentially.

[1:24:59] Voice 19: So this project, this report outlines sort of a general outline of what that phase of

[1:25:07] Voice 19: the project would look like with timeline and budget and scope for that project.

[1:25:13] Voice 19: I should say that this is a project that's also been made a top priority by the North Pender and South Pender local trust committees to date.

[1:25:23] Voice 19: And they are looking at or will be looking at a similar project charter project outline with the same personnel, the same staff supporting that project.

[1:25:36] Voice 19: And so the project would include looking initially at potential options for amendments.

[1:25:43] Voice 19: reporting back to the local trust committee with the range of options.

[1:25:48] Voice 19: Also simultaneously doing some community education on the findings of the mapping phase of the project.

[1:25:56] Voice 19: And then the local trust committee identifying some options to pursue further.

[1:26:01] Voice 19: And then doing community consultation on those options, First Nations consultation,

[1:26:06] Voice 19: leading ultimately to consideration of bylaw amendments.

[1:26:10] Voice 19: So the project timeline sort of follows, would follow from that sort of rough project outline with the first phase being the staff looking at the mapping results and then reporting back with options to the local trust committee with a specific lens on Galliano's

[1:26:32] Voice 19: both water groundwater circumstances and also land use patterns and bylaw bylaws

[1:26:40] Voice 19: then the local trust committee considering those giving direction consulting on the potential

[1:26:46] Voice 19: options and then moving into what we term the legislative phase which would be bylaw amendments

[1:26:53] Voice 19: the project resources like I said earlier would be it would fall under the new regional planning

[1:26:59] Voice 19: Planning Group is one of the projects with a sort of a regional focus or interest, primarily because it has several local trust committees in the south, making it a priority and try to get as much efficiency and consistency by having the same personnel, the same staff supporting the project, and also tying it in with

[1:27:26] Voice 19: with the trust-wide project for groundwater

[1:27:34] Voice 19: that's been initiated recently and is supported by a grant.

[1:27:38] Voice 19: And Chadwick can speak more specifically to that project

[1:27:43] Voice 19: and perhaps how it links to the LTC's project.

[1:27:46] Voice 19: So like I said, it's on the agenda

[1:27:48] Voice 19: for consideration of the project charter,

[1:27:50] Voice 19: which is attached to the staff report.

[1:27:55] Trustee Rogers: I'm just going to take a moment to introduce planner Nerissa Chadwick. Hi Nerissa. I know Nerissa quite well because she's the planner that I work with on Maine Island.

[1:28:07] Trustee Rogers: And so I'm pleased to welcome you to this project. I didn't know you were going to be on this project the last time we talked.

[1:28:16] Trustee Rogers: So anyway, I don't know if the trustees know Narissa, but that's Trustee Wolverton and

[1:28:22] Trustee Rogers: Trustee Rockefeller, and this is Galeano Island you're talking to now today.

[1:28:28] Trustee Rogers: So trustees, I guess the question for you today is, does this project rather sort of

[1:28:36] Trustee Rogers: reflect what you're looking for, what you see as a goal and objective of this project

[1:28:42] Trustee Rogers: going forward or questions about that or whether you have some uh clarity around how you wish to

[1:28:51] Trustee Rogers: what you wish to see happen as this project rolls out um if if so uh whether this does it so over to

[1:29:00] Trustee Rogers: the trustees for questions um trustee wolverton and

[1:29:09] Voice 5: no questions and i'm ready to make a

[1:29:12] Voice 5: recommendation if um the rest the others of you have no questions okay

[1:29:18] Trustee Rogers: so trustee rockefeller does

[1:29:21] Trustee Rogers: this reflect what it is you're looking for um

[1:29:25] Voice 6: yeah i think the project charter looks really good

[1:29:27] Voice 6: i

[1:29:30] Trustee Rogers: i do i did notice that uh that you know that out of scope only is things unrelated to water

[1:29:38] Trustee Rogers: So it's a fairly broad scope and I assume it was drafted that way on purpose to include all of the various options that might be engaged in relation to water projects going forward.

[1:29:54] Voice 19: That's correct. At this point, we wouldn't want to preclude any options related to water.

[1:30:00] Voice 19: As the gets options are presented to the local trust committee, the local trust committee may want to narrow, narrow the focus of the bit.

[1:30:06] Trustee Rogers: Right. And, and I know that there's a, and maybe you could speak to this a little bit.

[1:30:12] Trustee Rogers: I know it's fairly early in the process, but there's a fair, an expanded, I'll call it, I think it's called a strategic planning process around water that's, that's being run through the regional planning committee with some enhanced money that's been found.

[1:30:27] Trustee Rogers: and i guess i i wouldn't mind some clarity how those things might dovetail or work together or

[1:30:35] Trustee Rogers: if that's been given any thought yet or it's too early to sort of give an idea around that

[1:30:39] Voice 19: right yeah i did allude to it a bit earlier and uh yeah we're giving a lot of thought to that

[1:30:44] Voice 19: and i don't know so did you want to speak a bit to the yeah

[1:30:47] Voice 14: yeah sure so i mean i can just give

[1:30:50] Voice 14: you sort of a just a quick overview of what that process is about so we've been and um so we've

[1:30:56] Voice 14: engaged a consultant in the development of what we're calling a freshwater sustainability strategy

[1:31:04] Voice 14: which is involving engagement with staff and folks outside of staff and trustees and

[1:31:11] Voice 14: folks outside of of the islands trust provincial folks first nations other you know water experts

[1:31:20] Voice 14: And so the intention is that this larger plan will, or this process is going to lead to identifying a number of options for sort of strengthening the trust's ability to essentially protect the watersheds and fresh water.

[1:31:43] Voice 14: and so um we do have this uh this funding um from healthy watersheds initiative which is a

[1:31:52] Voice 14: provincial initiative and so that's funding the project uh the strategic plan development and

[1:31:59] Voice 14: it's also um funding a number of other what we're calling implementation projects so there's

[1:32:04] Voice 14: there are um uh that we've got a project on Liskiti and Hornby and there's a couple of

[1:32:11] Voice 14: of other um related projects so the way that that the the work that will be happening um on galley

[1:32:19] Voice 14: the way that i'm seeing it and this is just my perception at this point um on galliano and

[1:32:24] Voice 14: north pender um will be that that work will be continuing in tandem with the development of this

[1:32:31] Voice 14: overall um strategy and and we'll be learning things along the way um as we begin to uh to

[1:32:38] Voice 14: to implement the project charter

[1:32:42] Voice 14: for Galliano and North Pender.

[1:32:45] Voice 14: And that will feed into the ultimately what we learn

[1:32:51] Voice 14: will potentially influence what ultimately

[1:32:54] Voice 14: I identified as options.

[1:32:56] Voice 14: So that in addition to a suite of other options,

[1:33:01] Voice 14: because these projects are moving together,

[1:33:03] Voice 14: there is an opportunity for them

[1:33:05] Voice 14: to to to kind of inform each other so okay

[1:33:11] Trustee Rogers: thank you sorry i asked the questions either of the

[1:33:14] Trustee Rogers: trustees have any questions otherwise i'll trustee wolverton you sound like you're ready to move

[1:33:19] Trustee Rogers: forward uh

[1:33:21] Voice 5: yes let me hold

[1:33:24] Trustee Rogers: on it's on page 57. right okay

[1:33:33] Voice 5: i can uh make the recommendation that

[1:33:36] Voice 5: the galliano island local trust committee approved the project charter for the implementation phase

[1:33:41] Voice 5: of the Groundwater Sustainability Project.

[1:33:43] Trustee Rogers: Is there a seconder, Trustee Rockefeller?

[1:33:46] Trustee Rogers: Any comment from either of the trustees?

[1:33:49] Trustee Rogers: Any submission?

[1:33:50] Trustee Rogers: Nothing?

[1:33:51] Voice 3: No.

[1:33:52] Trustee Rogers: Very quiet.

[1:33:53] Trustee Rogers: You're both very quiet today.

[1:33:57] Trustee Rogers: So thank you for this.

[1:34:00] Trustee Rogers: As I said, I think it's important

[1:34:02] Trustee Rogers: that we understand the objectives

[1:34:04] Trustee Rogers: and I think they're relatively clear.

[1:34:06] Trustee Rogers: It's interesting that North Pounder and South Pender

[1:34:09] Trustee Rogers: are probably going to be taking similar projects going forward and there's other water work going

[1:34:14] Trustee Rogers: on both in the north and all of which should theoretically provide a suite as the planner says

[1:34:20] Trustee Rogers: a suite of um information that we can then draw on as as this project unfolds so with that having

[1:34:28] Trustee Rogers: said i'll uh call the question all in favor so that passes unanimously thank you very much

[1:34:33] Trustee Rogers: thanks for joining us uh narissa we'll see you i guess we'll see you a couple times a month no

[1:34:40] Trustee Rogers: yeah

[1:34:40] Voice 14: you're gonna be seeing more of me i

[1:34:43] Trustee Rogers: thought i was going to be seeing less of you when you

[1:34:46] Trustee Rogers: joined the bigger the big that the planning team but uh yeah

[1:34:49] Voice 14: no i'm sorry yeah

[1:34:51] Trustee Rogers: that's okay no it's

[1:34:52] Trustee Rogers: good okay all right bye

[1:34:54] Voice 16: thanks

[1:34:55] Trustee Rogers: very much um i noticed the kings are now here um and thank you

[1:35:02] Trustee Rogers: Maple for updating on us and that they've joined us and so if you'd like to promote them

[1:35:09] Trustee Rogers: or Mr. King anyway I'm not sure but if it's more than one but I'll just tell you Mr. King that

[1:35:19] Trustee Rogers: what we're going to do now is we're going to have the report from the planner

[1:35:26] Trustee Rogers: and we'll ask Connor Smith any questions

[1:35:32] Trustee Rogers: that we may have related to his report

[1:35:36] Trustee Rogers: and then we will turn to you

[1:35:39] Trustee Rogers: and then the trustees may have some questions for you

[1:35:43] Trustee Rogers: and you'll be able to unmute yourself

[1:35:44] Trustee Rogers: when it's time for you to speak.

[1:35:46] Trustee Rogers: It doesn't appear you've got a camera

[1:35:48] Trustee Rogers: but you'll be able to speak.

[1:35:50] Trustee Rogers: So this is now for all of you,

[1:35:52] Trustee Rogers: this is now we've gone back to 13.1,

[1:35:55] Trustee Rogers: which is on page 31 of the agenda package over to you planners thank

[1:36:06] Planner: you chair rogers i'm just

[1:36:09] Planner: going to share my screen here and quickly walk through the uh report with uh members

[1:36:14] Planner: so you can see the staff report there uh no there's nothing on the screen

[1:36:31] Voice 16: i think

[1:36:34] Planner: i need to uh share there you go that should work and there we go thank you

[1:36:42] Planner: um so thank you chair rogers this is a staff report for a rezoning application

[1:36:48] Planner: for fred and debbie king located at 50 on galliano way which is also known as district lot 17

[1:36:55] Planner: and it's a rezoning application this is a preliminary report to provide information

[1:37:01] Planner: to the local trust committee and also direction to the applicant to move forward with a number

[1:37:06] Planner: of items that staff have requested of them and the terms of reference that i'll speak to

[1:37:11] Planner: to in a second here.

[1:37:13] Planner: So just looking at the report here,

[1:37:15] Planner: the only recommendation of staff today

[1:37:19] Planner: is that the local trust community

[1:37:22] Planner: proceed with the application

[1:37:23] Planner: and direct staff to prepare a draft bylaw.

[1:37:26] Planner: In summary, the application would rezone

[1:37:29] Planner: the subject property from forest one to forest three.

[1:37:33] Planner: The intent of the property owner is to allow for,

[1:37:38] Planner: with this rezoning,

[1:37:39] Planner: it would allow for the construction of a dwelling and they would also continue to use the property

[1:37:45] Planner: as an active forest lot with respect to their firewood collection business that they operate

[1:37:52] Planner: currently on the property. So just some background here's the subject property location on Galliano

[1:38:00] Planner: Island along Port Lay Pass Road and in a review of the island's trust policy statement is consistent

[1:38:09] Planner: and also the OCP review is consistent as the proposal to rezone from F1 to F3 and everything

[1:38:20] Planner: is being proposed is more or less consistent application of this OCP policy that allows

[1:38:30] Planner: allows for the granting of a forestry covenant on the property in exchange for the access or

[1:38:36] Planner: in exchange for accessory or dwelling permitted residential use along with all the accessory

[1:38:45] Planner: uses that come from that. So given the size of the property, the property has dwelling potential

[1:38:52] Planner: for up to three dwellings as the rezoning the minimum rezoning is 20

[1:39:02] Planner: hectares and the property is approximately 67 hectares and so at

[1:39:08] Planner: this time the property only is only proposing to build the one dwelling and

[1:39:13] Planner: this is the site sketch that the property owner is provided at this time

[1:39:18] Planner: with the dwelling situated upon the ridge here,

[1:39:23] Planner: which is located within a groundwater catchment area.

[1:39:27] Planner: And so the applicant will need to consider the conditions

[1:39:32] Planner: within the groundwater catchment area.

[1:39:35] Planner: And there are also some moderate and steep slope area

[1:39:38] Planner: or some moderate slope areas within the location

[1:39:41] Planner: of the proposed development

[1:39:43] Planner: that they'll also need to consider.

[1:39:45] Planner: just backing up here the property is designated forest land and as such it's in the private

[1:39:54] Planner: it is the private managed forest land act applies the a section of the pmfl

[1:40:04] Planner: removes the ability for local governments to develop bylaws that would restrict forest

[1:40:10] Planner: activities so local trust committees should be made aware that the development permit areas that

[1:40:16] Planner: are identified on the property in the future would not be applied at the bylaw level and so staff

[1:40:24] Planner: would recommend that any protection of these areas including all the hydrogeological geotechnical as

[1:40:32] Planner: well as potential sensitive habitats on the property are protected through covenants at the

[1:40:40] Planner: the rezoning stage. In terms of consultation, public hearing would be required. If you got to

[1:40:49] Planner: that point, staff have identified a number of agencies that would be sent for bylaw referral

[1:40:54] Planner: and First Nations as well. And we've talked about the recommendations, but again, the proposal is

[1:41:04] Planner: reasonable and should really say is consistent with the OCP as there's nothing that really makes

[1:41:09] Planner: it uh not consistent uh the property owner is willing to enter a sustainable forester covenant

[1:41:15] Planner: uh with the local trust committee and staff have provided information to the property owner

[1:41:20] Planner: uh uh with respect to connecting to the galliano conservancy who could potentially be that third

[1:41:26] Planner: party covenant holder as it would be a the property would remain forestry so there would

[1:41:33] Planner: would be no OC land use designation required and if LTC decides to proceed today then the applicant

[1:41:43] Planner: has been provided this terms of reference that I'm just scrolling to here and this terms of

[1:41:50] Planner: reference provides detailed requirements with respect to all the tasks that the applicant

[1:41:58] Planner: would then need to go away and complete prior to bringing back the application again to local

[1:42:05] Planner: trust committee for further consideration so with that chair rogers i will pass it back to you and

[1:42:11] Planner: local trust committee for any questions and i also know that the applicant is now online and

[1:42:17] Planner: you may want to touch base with them as well thank

[1:42:19] Trustee Rogers: you yes thank you we'll get to mr mrs king in a

[1:42:22] Trustee Rogers: in a minute but if i could just see if trustees have any questions for the planner initially

[1:42:29] Trustee Rogers: yeah trustee wolverton

[1:42:33] Voice 5: um i just wondered uh planner smith whether you have had and the kings

[1:42:38] Voice 5: have had discussions about uh a bike route or um trail on the property yes

[1:42:45] Planner: um yes so i did breeze

[1:42:47] Planner: through that but the road network plan and the trails plan does show both road network as well

[1:42:56] Planner: as a bike route potentially through that which would essentially be a wider road corridor to

[1:43:05] Planner: allow for that future bike route construction the I had a conversation with Mr. or Mr. King last

[1:43:13] Planner: week and it is laid out in the terms of reference those two conditions and they had no issues with

[1:43:20] Planner: them so it really depends on what the referrals to those different agencies would say and then

[1:43:30] Planner: we can continue to have those conversations for sure the yeah the the road would be an obvious

[1:43:36] Planner: dedication but the the bike network and then also a conversation around a potential public trail

[1:43:41] Planner: which is identified in the OCP as well and there's no specific route identified on a trail it's just

[1:43:48] Planner: there's a flagging that somewhere along this property a trail is desired so those conversations

[1:43:54] Planner: can occur.

[1:43:55] Voice 5: I have a second question so there is an existing easement for Porlier Pass Road

[1:44:01] Voice 5: is that correct?

[1:44:03] Planner: Yeah because it's a forest lot the the section of road that goes through there is

[1:44:09] Planner: a section 42 road and robert would be better to describe uh that piece of road i don't know if

[1:44:16] Planner: robert you're on yeah

[1:44:18] Voice 19: i'm here uh that's correct it's uh what's called a section 42 road and that

[1:44:22] Voice 19: just refers to the highways act section and so essentially it's an old old road that was never

[1:44:30] Voice 19: dedicated um you know many many years ago but because it's been maintained um by public uh

[1:44:36] Voice 19: funds the traveled surface of the road is is considered to be a public road but um we identified

[1:44:43] Voice 19: as one of the one of the

[1:44:45] Voice 19: issues um for consideration is full width dedication as a

[1:44:50] Voice 19: condition of rezoning and that would also also depend on the minister of transportation's um

[1:44:55] Voice 19: comments as well okay

[1:44:58] Planner: thank you thank you and and there's a number of those areas on the along

[1:45:03] Planner: long parlay pass it's

[1:45:04] Voice 19: a bit of a

[1:45:05] Planner: it's a bit of a an oddity see such a main road with not a public

[1:45:10] Planner: road dedication but so this would fill one of those puzzle pieces at least yeah

[1:45:15] Trustee Rogers: um trustee

[1:45:18] Trustee Rogers: rockfellow do you have any questions um i i have a couple because i i as always it's so much easier

[1:45:27] Trustee Rogers: to be able to see the road and um see the property and understand what's happening so but a couple of

[1:45:33] Trustee Rogers: things without seeing it because this is going to be with us for a while perhaps is so I'm trying

[1:45:42] Trustee Rogers: to understand the the the juxtaposition between you said this property is in in a PMFL it's in

[1:45:50] Planner: it it's because it's forestry land it is in PMFL and how

[1:45:56] Trustee Rogers: does that juxtapose with a forestry

[1:46:00] Trustee Rogers: covenant that yeah

[1:46:02] Planner: is part

[1:46:03] Trustee Rogers: of f3 yeah

[1:46:04] Planner: so the pmfl has a section 21 and i could get the specific

[1:46:10] Planner: wording here but uh it essentially is section 21 of the pfm pmfl act restricts local governments

[1:46:16] Planner: from uh establishing any bylaws that uh strict or um either directly or indirectly restrict or

[1:46:25] Planner: or pass or approve any permits and so essentially section 21 of the pmfl applies to all lands that

[1:46:35] Planner: are designated forestry that aren't within a forest license area farm there's a the legislation

[1:46:42] Planner: spells it out and so this particular property is one of those and so your rezoning bylaw

[1:46:51] Planner: law that you would pass would essentially just be changing the zoning from F1 to F3 and the

[1:47:01] Planner: so it would just be a map amendment and so the change itself would have no direct or indirect

[1:47:07] Planner: impact on forestry activities and so that's why the covenant tool is used as the mechanism to

[1:47:15] Planner: to create restrictions on the land base

[1:47:17] Planner: because the PMFL does not consider covenants.

[1:47:23] Voice 19: So the property has managed forest status

[1:47:27] Voice 19: because of the registered in the program.

[1:47:30] Voice 19: So if you have that managed forest status,

[1:47:33] Voice 19: you're then subject to the PMFL Act,

[1:47:36] Voice 19: which means prevents the local government from,

[1:47:39] Voice 19: as Brad said, adopting a bylaw or issuing a permit

[1:47:42] Voice 19: that would restrict a forest management activity.

[1:47:46] Voice 19: An amendment from F1 to F3 wouldn't restrict the forest management activity.

[1:47:50] Voice 19: But the other consideration is because there are several development permit areas on the property,

[1:47:55] Voice 19: the Local Trust Committee couldn't, we wouldn't advise the Local Trust Committee to ignore those objectives at the rezoning stage.

[1:48:04] Voice 19: Because as long as the property owner maintains managed forest status,

[1:48:08] Voice 19: you can't restrict forest management activities through the mechanism of a development permit.

[1:48:15] Voice 19: So this is the opportunity to potentially use covenants to achieve the goals of the development permit areas.

[1:48:24] Voice 19: Okay,

[1:48:25] Trustee Rogers: so let me just make sure, restate that so I make sure I understand. So it's a managed forest under the PMFL. We have limitations under the current legislation on what bylaws we can apply and restrictions we can apply to the property if they affect forestry.

[1:48:49] Trustee Rogers: however there's nothing to stop uh uh the the landowner from entering into a covenant which

[1:49:00] Trustee Rogers: would be enforceable despite his managed private managed force status correct

[1:49:05] Voice 19: yeah exactly okay

[1:49:07] Trustee Rogers: okay okay so that now i under i think i understand is is that is it would give us

[1:49:13] Trustee Rogers: this rezoning might might provide an opportunity to put in place some i don't know what the right

[1:49:19] Trustee Rogers: word is i don't want to use the word controls but um some conditions that we might not otherwise be

[1:49:26] Trustee Rogers: able to do by bio okay thank you rogers can i

[1:49:30] Trustee Rogers: just add to

[1:49:30] Planner: that chair rogers sure so

[1:49:32] Planner: so i just want to

[1:49:34] Planner: uh point you to my shared screen and so it shows dpa1 and dpa5 uh areas um and so the developable

[1:49:43] Planner: area is up on this upper ridge but there's these sensitive habitats below and so one recommendation

[1:49:50] Planner: of staff for example would be to protect those areas within covenant instead of relying on the

[1:49:55] Planner: development permit areas to do that in the future because any future development in all those areas

[1:50:00] Planner: as long as they're in the pmf as long as the property's in the pmfl local trust committee

[1:50:05] Planner: We would have no ability to regulate or have permit conditions apply.

[1:50:16] Trustee Rogers: And the irony of all of this, unless I'm completely mistaken and can't read a map anymore, those, the DPA-1 areas are pretty much right along the road allowance.

[1:50:28] Planner: Yeah.

[1:50:29] Planner: They are.

[1:50:30] Planner: They're sensitive habitats along.

[1:50:32] Trustee Rogers: Well, they push the 42 road.

[1:50:33] Trustee Rogers: i'm not pink critical but they pushed it right through the sensitive habitat this

[1:50:37] Planner: is this is

[1:50:38] Planner: the truth because it's a low lying i guess um and yeah so that that is a an example and in

[1:50:46] Planner: discussion with the property owner that is not these more sensitive areas are not their operating

[1:50:51] Planner: areas anyways and so but but the same thing with uh for example the so they could have two other

[1:50:59] Planner: other home plates developed in time,

[1:51:01] Planner: but right now they're just developing the one

[1:51:03] Planner: where I've shown that diagram up here on this upper ridge.

[1:51:06] Planner: And so

[1:51:07] Planner: the terms of reference spells over specifically

[1:51:11] Planner: that they need to consider all the requirements

[1:51:13] Planner: as if it was a DPA application,

[1:51:16] Planner: but that those requirements would be

[1:51:20] Planner: captured in covenant.

[1:51:21] Planner: I

[1:51:22] Trustee Rogers: have one more question and that's I've noticed

[1:51:25] Trustee Rogers: in the report that they would be entitled the potential.

[1:51:28] Trustee Rogers: I know that's not the plan for three or two other residences.

[1:51:33] Trustee Rogers: Do they have to subdivide in order to create those other,

[1:51:36] Trustee Rogers: or will they have the ability to subdivide?

[1:51:39] Trustee Rogers: I just didn't know.

[1:51:40] Trustee Rogers: Or can they do it?

[1:51:42] Trustee Rogers: No.

[1:51:42] Planner: Both.

[1:51:43] Planner: So they would have dwelling potential as if it were subdivision.

[1:51:50] Planner: So they could build three dwellings on this property.

[1:51:54] Planner: So, the Kings could develop this one property now and then as the terms of reference in the staff report indicate, they do have the ability to have two other dwellings and so they could establish those all on the same property and have them as you know their other family members living in them, for example, or the grandchildren, or they could undertake the process, the next step of subdivision of those parcels and what staff or what the terms of reference in the staff report basically says.

[1:52:24] Planner: is that we're requiring them to create that home plate that developable area that indicates where

[1:52:30] Planner: all their structures will be in the driveway etc for their one proposed area if they were

[1:52:35] Planner: they could either do all that work for the other two now and have their whole layout for their

[1:52:42] Planner: property or the covenant would require them to do that in the future before any other dwellings

[1:52:48] Planner: could be constructed

[1:52:48] Voice 18: thank thank you thank you very much i just those are my questions i was

[1:52:54] Voice 5: I have actually just one question there are two easements on the hand-drawn map that go

[1:53:01] Voice 5: south of the of the road and I just wondered what those were just

[1:53:09] Planner: let me get to my map here

[1:53:17] Voice 5: it's on

[1:53:17] Planner: yeah 34

[1:53:19] Voice 5: one

[1:53:21] Planner: of them is a I believe it's a road easement that showed in the road network

[1:53:26] Planner: plans well me and Robert had some questions about those easements and so it might actually be better

[1:53:31] Planner: to ask the kings themselves what those easements are for uh there is a there is a a road court a

[1:53:38] Planner: road network plan but it doesn't it didn't align very well with that easement uh to the uh to the

[1:53:45] Planner: southwest corner so maybe we could let the uh mr or mrs king talk speak that sure

[1:53:51] Trustee Rogers: let's let's turn

[1:53:53] Trustee Rogers: turn to the Kings or whoever's here. I saw you have been promoted. It appears you don't have a

[1:54:04] Trustee Rogers: camera, but you can unmute yourself at this point. Where did you go? There, you're unmuted. So who am

[1:54:10] Trustee Rogers: I speaking to? Hello? I think your microphone is unmuted, so you should be able to speak to us now.

[1:54:27] Trustee Rogers: i heard some background noise mr or mrs king fred or debbie did you actually speak to them maple

[1:54:54] Trustee Rogers: i think you spoke to them by phone didn't you yeah

[1:54:57] Voice 9: i did so um they did have some issues with

[1:55:00] Voice 9: their microphone um they thought it was working so um what we can do is oh they sent us a chat

[1:55:08] Voice 9: message here um okay so they are able to chat to us but what i can recommend also fred is you can

[1:55:15] Voice 9: can also call him by phone since your phone was working or you can communicate with us through

[1:55:20] Voice 9: the chat which he just mentioned here yeah they

[1:55:28] Trustee Rogers: got the phone number I'm

[1:55:30] Voice 9: going to email it to

[1:55:31] Voice 9: them right away oh that might be them calling me one moment hello so

[1:55:44] Trustee Rogers: this is the challenges

[1:55:46] Trustee Rogers: we were talking about the beginning of the meeting

[1:55:48] Voice 3: that

[1:55:49] Trustee Rogers: occasionally occur with somebody

[1:55:51] Trustee Rogers: but he has connectivity issues or technical challenges.

[1:55:55] Voice 9: So, Chair Patrick, I have Fred on my phone,

[1:55:58] Voice 9: but if I put him on speaker,

[1:55:59] Voice 9: okay, could you speak for a second, Fred?

[1:56:01] Voice 9: Is that echoing to you?

[1:56:04] Trustee Rogers: Hello?

[1:56:05] Voice 9: Does that work all right?

[1:56:06] Voice 9: Not too great.

[1:56:08] Trustee Rogers: Not too great.

[1:56:09] Voice 9: Okay.

[1:56:11] Voice 9: It's not bad.

[1:56:13] Trustee Rogers: I could hear him, but there was background noise.

[1:56:19] Voice 5: It looks like the question of easements,

[1:56:21] Voice 5: that those are uh access to lands beyond but

[1:56:24] Trustee Rogers: yes but i yes in any case i guess my question for

[1:56:34] Trustee Rogers: i mean i want the kings to have the opportunity to speak to us if they want but do

[1:56:38] Trustee Rogers: i do do you either of the trustees actually have questions for the kings not so much

[1:57:00] Trustee Rogers: naples

[1:57:03] Voice 9: oh sorry just one moment chair rogers i'm just setting um fred up here one moment thanks i

[1:57:07] Voice 9: I

[1:57:07] Trustee Rogers: heard his voice again.

[1:57:14] Trustee Rogers: So is this, is this, it's up, it's up the Poirier Pass road a ways, is it?

[1:57:21] Trustee Rogers: And then there's.

[1:57:23] Voice 5: It's just before you turn right to go to the community forest or just, sorry, just beyond where you turn right.

[1:57:31] Trustee Rogers: And then you're effectively driving right through their property.

[1:57:34] Voice 5: That's right.

[1:57:35] Voice 5: Right. I mean, the road, the road's been there for decades, you know,

[1:57:40] Voice 5: and it's not necessarily in the best spot in a lot of places, you know,

[1:57:46] Voice 5: it's no,

[1:57:47] Trustee Rogers: no, I wasn't being critical. It's just, no,

[1:57:49] Voice 5: no, no, no.

[1:57:50] Trustee Rogers: It's just that you, as I said,

[1:57:52] Trustee Rogers: you would never know that you were driving through somebody's,

[1:57:55] Trustee Rogers: as I said to Planner Smith, you would never, as an off Islander,

[1:57:59] Trustee Rogers: you would never know that you were driving right through the middle of

[1:58:02] Trustee Rogers: somebody's property.

[1:58:03] Trustee Rogers: yeah

[1:58:03] Voice 4: okay

[1:58:12] Voice 9: so mr king's going to um try to call him by phone so just bear with us for a minute here

[1:58:19] Voice 9: and he has to put in oh that might be him right there there

[1:58:22] Voice 18: is a person on

[1:58:23] Voice 18: yeah yay

[1:58:24] Voice 9: there good okay um fred if you want to unmute yourself it's um star six

[1:58:36] Voice 20: yes

[1:58:36] Trustee Rogers: you are there we go yeah

[1:58:39] Voice 20: sorry about that i'm working all this stuff

[1:58:41] Trustee Rogers: that's okay fred well you might want to figure it out for going if we go forward with this matter

[1:58:46] Trustee Rogers: because you may be contacting us again so mr king

[1:58:50] Voice 20: yes mr

[1:58:52] Trustee Rogers: king hello good morning uh good

[1:58:53] Trustee Rogers: afternoon dan rogers you probably i know you've seen a bit of the and you heard what the planner

[1:58:58] Trustee Rogers: had to say and you've heard some of the questions from myself and some of the

[1:59:02] Trustee Rogers: trustees related to your application I just wanted to give you the opportunity

[1:59:07] Trustee Rogers: as the applicant to make any comments you want to related to the planners

[1:59:12] Trustee Rogers: report to us or bring to our attention any information you wanted to do yeah

[1:59:19] Voice 20: I've been listening to you there I just I found out that I don't have a camera

[1:59:23] Voice 20: on my computer here also I can't get it to work and the sound thing of course

[1:59:27] Voice 20: but them easements are access to lands beyond one easement is for a district lot 18 to access the

[1:59:34] Voice 20: high side of his property and the other easement goes up parallels portier pass road uh the same

[1:59:40] Voice 20: thing as allows access to the high side of district lot 16. okay thank

[1:59:48] Trustee Rogers: you so do you have any thank you

[1:59:51] Trustee Rogers: for answering those questions uh do you have any comments or or or uh yeah comments or information

[1:59:57] Trustee Rogers: about the actual staff report.

[2:00:00] Trustee Rogers: that we that planner smith has given to us related to the application or his recommendations

[2:00:05] Trustee Rogers: do you have anything well

[2:00:06] Voice 20: it's pretty early in the process i thought brad laid it out pretty

[2:00:10] Voice 20: good there i mean uh we're getting uh to the point where we've had this property a long time

[2:00:15] Voice 20: we bought it off mcmillan blodell who had just clear cut one side of it that would be the south

[2:00:21] Voice 20: side uh so that would be clear cut 1989 and the other side was clear cut in 1965 and we've been

[2:00:29] Voice 20: been doing

[2:00:29] Voice 20: reforestation ever since and now that we're kind of getting to the point where well

[2:00:35] Voice 20: what what are we going to do with this property we have three grandkids so we're thinking well

[2:00:41] Voice 20: the right to build three houses we don't want to build three houses we don't want to subdivide

[2:00:46] Voice 20: but we would like to live on it because we don't want to sell it so we might as well live on it so

[2:00:50] Voice 20: this is what this is all about okay thank

[2:00:56] Voice 18: you any questions trustee wolverton nope

[2:01:01] Voice 4: oh

[2:01:01] Voice 18: trustee

[2:01:02] Trustee Rogers: rockefeller okay uh well thank you uh and thank you for letting us know that you think

[2:01:09] Trustee Rogers: that the planner has laid it out uh fairly thoroughly because that will that allows us i

[2:01:13] Trustee Rogers: just it's just that as the applicant it's your your opportunity to speak to us and let us know

[2:01:18] Trustee Rogers: whether you disagree with something the planner has said or if you have a different perspective

[2:01:22] Trustee Rogers: but it's helpful for us to know that you you you think that the um the staff report is accurate

[2:01:28] Trustee Rogers: and ready for us to consider.

[2:01:30] Trustee Rogers: So thanks Will.

[2:01:31] Trustee Rogers: We're going to go on now to,

[2:01:34] Trustee Rogers: we'll mute you now and we'll thank you Fred

[2:01:37] Trustee Rogers: and we'll go to consideration.

[2:01:41] Trustee Rogers: And so I'm going to turn it to the planners.

[2:01:43] Trustee Rogers: We have a recommendation from the staff

[2:01:45] Trustee Rogers: related to this matter.

[2:01:47] Trustee Rogers: What's your thoughts?

[2:01:53] Trustee Rogers: Go ahead.

[2:01:55] Trustee Rogers: You're

[2:01:55] Planner: looking for my thoughts?

[2:01:57] Trustee Rogers: No, sorry, the trustees.

[2:01:58] Trustee Rogers: I'm sorry.

[2:01:59] Voice 3: Thank you.

[2:02:06] Trustee Rogers: I think

[2:02:07] Voice 6: that the application looks pretty comprehensive and good and I think that I

[2:02:13] Voice 6: would go ahead with making the initial recommendation if the other trustees were ready for that.

[2:02:19] Voice 6: So I would move that the Galliano Island Local Trust Committee direct staff to proceed with

[2:02:24] Voice 6: with application GLRZ2020.1 King and to prepare a draft bylaw.

[2:02:31] Trustee Rogers: Okay, is there a seconder?

[2:02:32] Trustee Rogers: Okay. Second.

[2:02:34] Trustee Rogers: Would you like to say anything any further

[2:02:36] Trustee Rogers: Trustee Rockefeller?

[2:02:37] Voice 6: I was going to mention something

[2:02:39] Voice 6: about the development permit areas,

[2:02:41] Voice 6: but I think it's in a separate,

[2:02:42] Voice 6: I'll mention after we finish this motion.

[2:02:46] Trustee Rogers: Okay, Trustee Wolverton,

[2:02:47] Trustee Rogers: do you wish to say anything about this motion

[2:02:50] Trustee Rogers: that's on the table right now?

[2:02:53] Voice 5: No, I'm glad to see it's coming forward.

[2:02:55] Voice 5: I think it's excellent.

[2:02:57] Trustee Rogers: Yeah, I think it's, well, I'll just say that we know we have,

[2:03:01] Trustee Rogers: there's the longstanding issue of F1 lots on the island

[2:03:04] Trustee Rogers: and always good to have another one that may be moving into regularization of F3.

[2:03:09] Trustee Rogers: And we'll, anyway, and you've heard some of my questions,

[2:03:12] Trustee Rogers: so you can see some of my considerations going forward.

[2:03:15] Trustee Rogers: So I've got the motion on the table and it's been seconded

[2:03:20] Trustee Rogers: and the discussion is finished.

[2:03:21] Trustee Rogers: so i'm going to call the vote all in favor so that passes unanimously trustee rockefeller you

[2:03:26] Trustee Rogers: had another consideration

[2:03:28] Voice 6: i just appreciated the staff mentioning the development permit areas and

[2:03:32] Voice 6: believe protecting those via covenant is important and i was wondering if i need to make a motion

[2:03:37] Voice 6: uh for that direction um

[2:03:41] Voice 18: i'll turn to the planner it sounded like he was going to do that anyway but

[2:03:45] Planner: I would say that at this stage, your motion now will require the applicant to conduct a site inventory and ecological assessment, and it might be worthwhile to obtain that assessment or that assessment first. And then I think there's time to make that resolution. But certainly, you could make it now as well.

[2:04:08] Voice 6: I'm happy waiting. I just wasn't sure.

[2:04:09] Voice 6: yeah

[2:04:10] Planner: i think probably waiting until that site inventory comes in and then you may want to

[2:04:14] Planner: broaden that to not just include those areas as you have that discretion uh through covenant at

[2:04:20] Planner: this rezoning stage right

[2:04:22] Voice 18: okay so that's everybody's

[2:04:25] Trustee Rogers: happy to wait so we're good with this

[2:04:27] Trustee Rogers: then nothing further related to that now you don't need anything in further planner smith then we'll

[2:04:32] Trustee Rogers: move on and so i'm going to thank you very much for that um and thank you mr king uh nice to meet

[2:04:39] Trustee Rogers: I'm guessing given that we've approved to move forward

[2:04:42] Trustee Rogers: with this, we'll talk again.

[2:04:45] Trustee Rogers: So the next matter on our agenda

[2:04:49] Trustee Rogers: is the STVR review post-public hearing,

[2:04:52] Trustee Rogers: but I'm gonna suggest we take our break right now

[2:04:55] Trustee Rogers: because I still wanted to take a few minutes

[2:04:58] Trustee Rogers: to finish my thoughts, my notes related to that.

[2:05:04] Trustee Rogers: And so we have our meeting break.

[2:05:07] Trustee Rogers: Trustee Wolverton, are you still wanting

[2:05:09] Trustee Rogers: to do a community update during the meeting break um

[2:05:12] Voice 5: i wouldn't mind taking just a five minute break

[2:05:15] Voice 5: without a without it and then come back and we could do a few minutes um okay so then let's do

[2:05:21] Voice 18: this let's

[2:05:23] Trustee Rogers: uh let's break till 2 45 um like completely break we'll come back at 2 45 um

[2:05:32] Trustee Rogers: once we've had a bit of a cut and then and then to the and then the extent you want to

[2:05:36] Trustee Rogers: have a bit of a community update from people in the community about what's going on. I know

[2:05:40] Trustee Rogers: you have some thoughts about that. We can do that until approximately three o'clock-ish

[2:05:45] Trustee Rogers: and then we'll come back to 14.1, which is the SPVR review. Okay,

[2:05:53] Trustee Rogers: so Maple, you get all that.

[2:05:56] Trustee Rogers: We're going to stand down for 10 minutes and then come back for the community updates. Thanks very

[2:06:03] Trustee Rogers: much okay

[2:06:04] Voice 9: i'm going to put the slide up now thanks thank

[2:06:06] Voice 3: you hi

[2:17:31] Trustee Rogers: jane hello

[2:17:32] Voice 4: i think

[2:17:40] Voice 5: we're still live

[2:17:42] Trustee Rogers: we are live and i think you wanted to perhaps um have a bit of a discussion with your community

[2:17:52] Trustee Rogers: um so i'm happy to turn it up this portion of the agenda over to you and uh there are still 12

[2:18:00] Trustee Rogers: 12 attendees, as well as the seven panelists. So Tahir is not here yet, or at least she hasn't

[2:18:12] Trustee Rogers: turned her camera on, but you can wait or start, up to you.

[2:18:20] Voice 5: I could probably go ahead and start.

[2:18:22] Voice 5: I guess, well, a couple of things. I mean, I'd like to hear from people about how things are

[2:18:29] Voice 5: going. As I said in my opening remarks, I've been hearing just that people are feeling a bit

[2:18:37] Voice 5: dispirited as we go into year two of the pandemic. So there's that. And then the trustees were

[2:18:46] Voice 5: recently asked to talk about what unique amenities we are preserving and protecting. And so I thought

[2:18:59] Voice 5: it might be interesting for people so we've submitted our comments on that but I thought

[2:19:07] Voice 5: might be interesting to hear from our community about what unique amenities they see are important

[2:19:17] Voice 5: to protect and preserve in on Galeano so it can be both community oriented and

[2:19:25] Voice 5: and oriented toward the environment.

[2:19:28] Voice 5: So I don't know if anyone is interested

[2:19:31] Voice 5: in taking up that topic.

[2:19:37] Trustee Rogers: Well, we'll find out anybody who wants to weigh in.

[2:19:40] Trustee Rogers: This is an informal session like we did in December

[2:19:44] Trustee Rogers: of the LTC, not a formal session.

[2:19:49] Trustee Rogers: For anybody that has a comment either,

[2:19:51] Trustee Rogers: I think Jane asked about how you're doing generally.

[2:19:54] Trustee Rogers: And then secondly, whether you'd like to comment

[2:19:56] Trustee Rogers: comment on the issue of unique amenities so please feel free don't be shy put up your hands

[2:20:03] Trustee Rogers: and we'll unmute you quiet bunch of today

[2:20:12] Voice 5: well it's it's pretty kind of gloomy over here today

[2:20:17] Voice 5: well

[2:20:19] Trustee Rogers: you know this this medium is an odd one right um and it's it's not necessarily

[2:20:30] Trustee Rogers: necessarily as conducive until you get rolling to community conversations sometimes if you get

[2:20:38] Trustee Rogers: everybody up on a screen and everybody you know sometimes sometimes you get lots of input what

[2:20:44] Trustee Rogers: but but it's always sort of um it's a bit uh different to sort of just start talking about

[2:20:51] Trustee Rogers: something um

[2:20:52] Voice 3: having

[2:20:54] Trustee Rogers: said that i haven't known galleons to a gall what's the right word for

[2:20:59] Trustee Rogers: Galeanoans. Is it Gala what's Gala nine weeks?

[2:21:03] Voice 5: I don't know sometimes Galeanoites I've heard.

[2:21:09] Voice 5: Anyway so maybe maybe today's just not the day for uh chatting um maybe

[2:21:15] Voice 18: um

[2:21:20] Trustee Rogers: we could chat. I put mine

[2:21:22] Trustee Rogers: in too about unique amenities so this way I saw yours I was it was it was interesting to watch

[2:21:28] Trustee Rogers: that you guys put your two heads together to come up with yours, so that was good.

[2:21:34] Trustee Rogers: It

[2:21:34] Voice 6: was an opportunity to, because we're not a quorum, in a

[2:21:37] Trustee Rogers: larger picture.

[2:21:39] Trustee Rogers: It's not an LTC issue, you can actually talk about it.

[2:21:43] Trustee Rogers: Maybe

[2:21:44] Voice 5: I could just mention what ones we did kind of put forward.

[2:21:50] Voice 5: word um so we felt that um so tahira and i had a chance to talk and um so we felt that it's

[2:22:04] Voice 5: that it's important in the in that there were sort of three areas that in the unique amenities one

[2:22:10] Voice 5: was the indigenous cultural heritage the natural environment and the community and so in the

[2:22:17] Voice 5: Indigenous cultural heritage, we felt that there is a responsibility on all of us to protect the

[2:22:25] Voice 5: areas that have been where there are remains. I mean, in all of these islands, there are remains

[2:22:37] Voice 5: just everywhere. And it's unlike, say, Victoria or the Lower Mainland or another municipality

[2:22:45] Voice 5: Where there's a cemetery and everybody's in a cemetery, we have to be careful because the remains are within our environment.

[2:22:54] Voice 5: So we also talked about the natural environment that we want to preserve and protect, you know, the plants, trees, birds and animals.

[2:23:04] Voice 5: also the darkness so they trying to reduce light pollution being able to to see the bright moon

[2:23:15] Voice 5: on moonlit nights the quiet the lands for growing and foraging and then for the community we we

[2:23:25] Voice 5: wanted to preserve and protect the sense of belonging the sense of being noticed and seen

[2:23:33] Voice 5: interdependence of cohesiveness and resilience the sharing of skills and money

[2:23:37] Voice 5: um the freedom and safety like to be able to walk and be anywhere on the island without fear

[2:23:43] Voice 5: um the the way in which the island volunteers the large percentage of volunteers

[2:23:49] Voice 5: um and and how the island has responded uh especially during this pandemic so those were

[2:23:59] Voice 5: or kind of some of the things that we submitted

[2:24:05] Voice 5: in response to that question,

[2:24:08] Voice 5: the questions that the trust programs committee

[2:24:12] Voice 5: is had put out.

[2:24:20] Voice 18: It'll be an interesting,

[2:24:25] Trustee Rogers: it's an interesting time for the trust programs committee.

[2:24:30] Trustee Rogers: So there was going to be a new sort of historical report

[2:24:36] Trustee Rogers: around that's coming out.

[2:24:38] Trustee Rogers: for our meeting this Friday.

[2:24:41] Trustee Rogers: It's because there's very disparate views on the trust

[2:24:47] Trustee Rogers: about these issues.

[2:24:52] Trustee Rogers: I'm just so you two know,

[2:24:55] Trustee Rogers: I'm preparing a discussion paper

[2:25:01] Trustee Rogers: related to all of this

[2:25:04] Trustee Rogers: and an alternative set of motions

[2:25:07] Trustee Rogers: to the ones that are currently on the agenda.

[2:25:10] Trustee Rogers: So

[2:25:10] Voice 3: see it.

[2:25:11] Trustee Rogers: And I see Mr. Moses has his hand up.

[2:25:14] Trustee Rogers: So unmute Art, please.

[2:25:17] Trustee Rogers: Hi,

[2:25:28] Voice 11: this is confusing.

[2:25:30] Voice 11: Yes, it's Susan.

[2:25:31] Voice 11: It's not art.

[2:25:33] Voice 11: But I couldn't resist the empty air there

[2:25:36] Voice 11: as a former broadcaster.

[2:25:39] Voice 11: I really appreciate to hear on Jane's list of amenities

[2:25:45] Voice 11: and priorities for Galliano.

[2:25:48] Voice 11: And I wanted to just add some of ours

[2:25:52] Voice 11: that are speaking loosely about the North end

[2:25:55] Voice 11: and those of us who are conservation interested or minded.

[2:26:01] Voice 11: I think the issue of the bike path,

[2:26:04] Voice 11: I know that it's a CRD right of way

[2:26:07] Voice 11: that would have to be obtained.

[2:26:09] Voice 11: And I know when the Conservancy rezoned

[2:26:11] Voice 11: that we had to give a very wide margin

[2:26:14] Voice 11: for a future bike path and I just want to emphasize again that's one of the

[2:26:18] Voice 11: things that I hear over and over on Galliano is the idea of

[2:26:22] Voice 11: having a bike

[2:26:23] Voice 11: path along Porlier Pass because every year we have more cyclists both locals

[2:26:28] Voice 11: and others and it's just an extremely dangerous road lots of twists and turns

[2:26:33] Voice 11: and ups and downs so along with trails that's something that I hear very very

[2:26:38] Voice 11: frequently as a concern. Should I just go through my list? It'll

[2:26:46] Voice 3: be brief. I

[2:26:48] Voice 11: think the other concern

[2:26:50] Voice 11: that we're talking about at the Conservancy and I know a lot of people are on Galliano is

[2:26:57] Voice 11: Indigenous partnerships leading to naming and recognition and protection of sites on Galliano

[2:27:03] Voice 11: And that includes recognizing both the local Galliano Indigenous people who lately have been sort of coming to prominent attention because of the sign at Waver Bay.

[2:27:16] Voice 11: So that would be the Leilamsar Agotino.

[2:27:20] Voice 11: They would be the descendants, essentially, from the Wilson family and the canoe pass people, the La Mulchie Wilson.

[2:27:28] Voice 11: Wilson and of course recognizing the Penelakut lineage and Yakoloas and Lamalchi and their

[2:27:38] Voice 11: descendants live on many many parts of the island so I really hear that that you know people

[2:27:45] Voice 11: want to acknowledge who's here and pay respect and protect those sites with respect to the

[2:27:54] Voice 11: The quiet nights and the lovely moon,

[2:27:57] Voice 11: I have to say that at the North End

[2:27:59] Voice 11: and along Trincomalee,

[2:28:00] Voice 11: those tankers continue to be an issue.

[2:28:03] Voice 11: I know that our MP here, Adam Olson,

[2:28:08] Voice 11: has been very attentive to this issue

[2:28:10] Voice 11: and has tried to write and get some action on it.

[2:28:14] Voice 11: Essentially, it's the Port of Vancouver

[2:28:15] Voice 11: who needs to realize that the Southern Gulf Islands

[2:28:18] Voice 11: are not a parking lot for their overflow.

[2:28:21] Voice 11: Some of these tankers don't even have business

[2:28:23] Voice 11: in the Port of Vancouver.

[2:28:25] Voice 11: They're just being parked there.

[2:28:27] Voice 11: And at one point, the Port of Vancouver said

[2:28:30] Voice 11: that they were parking them there

[2:28:32] Voice 11: because Valdez and Penelope were essentially uninhabited,

[2:28:36] Voice 11: which is .

[2:28:39] Voice 11: But we'd really like to see them move on or some control.

[2:28:44] Voice 11: They transit through Trincomalee

[2:28:46] Voice 11: and literally the ground shakes

[2:28:48] Voice 11: when those tankers go through.

[2:28:50] Voice 11: through and it can they must be so disruptive to orcas I can only imagine um renewal of the

[2:28:58] Voice 11: coastal Douglas fair forest and continuing better management of forests um and just finally there

[2:29:05] Voice 11: remains a concern at the um the far north end for emergency access that would be for almost

[2:29:11] Voice 11: three dozen families um as the part of your past continues to erode and uh landslides continue to

[2:29:19] Voice 11: happen along uh near sultry bay along corlear past uh there's maybe two or three potential

[2:29:26] Voice 11: emergency accesses one of which which may be addressed by crystal mountain which has an

[2:29:32] Voice 11: existing level graded uh highway quality roadbed through its site but it's not currently open

[2:29:39] Voice 11: so with these the rocks that have been coming out down in the last few weeks with heavy rain

[2:29:45] Voice 11: there is

[2:29:46] Voice 11: no way someone in an ordinary passenger car could get out so that's worth considering

[2:29:52] Voice 11: um and finally i think uh congratulations to the progress on the stv

[2:30:00] Voice 11: and the STs taking this initiative.

[2:30:04] Voice 11: I realize it causes some economic hardship to people,

[2:30:08] Voice 11: but it's far.

[2:30:10] Trustee Rogers: And we're post public hearing.

[2:30:11] Trustee Rogers: So you really can't comment related to the SPBR.

[2:30:14] Voice 11: Bite

[2:30:14] Voice 6: my tongue on that one then.

[2:30:16] Voice 6: Okay, so that's it.

[2:30:17] Voice 6: I did have a note about when you mentioned tankers,

[2:30:20] Voice 6: it reminded me that the province of BC

[2:30:22] Voice 6: has open comment period now

[2:30:24] Voice 6: for the National Energy Board's reconsideration.

[2:30:27] Voice 6: um so there's a couple things that kind of include local government possibly coastal

[2:30:34] Voice 6: local governments and um safety plans or whatnot anyway they're looking for public comment on that

[2:30:39] Voice 6: and anything to get those folks to jump through more hoops this may be good i posted that both

[2:30:46] Voice 6: on the facebook trust galliano facebook and instagram with the links oh i didn't know that

[2:30:51] Voice 6: i'll go back and grab that it's till march 1st it's open okay

[2:30:55] Trustee Rogers: thank you very much suzanne i

[2:30:57] Trustee Rogers: appreciate that list it's uh the number of those things are on obviously a lot topics we discuss

[2:31:03] Trustee Rogers: both trust council ec local trust committee trust programs the tankers have been a particular focus

[2:31:10] Trustee Rogers: of the chair of the trouble of the trust council for example yeah and um and fit from thetis island

[2:31:18] Trustee Rogers: and gabriola and south pender and all through the parking lot is everywhere yeah anyway thank you

[2:31:25] Trustee Rogers: very much appreciate that and we're going to i think if that's it uh trustee wolverton are you

[2:31:32] Trustee Rogers: um we'll move back into the agenda thanks again um so we are going back up in the agenda we're

[2:31:44] Trustee Rogers: going back to 14.1 uh which is the uh post public hearing sdbr review um and i guess uh over to you

[2:31:53] Trustee Rogers: Planner Smith, if you have anything you'd like your staff reports on page 52,

[2:31:59] Trustee Rogers: do you wish to say anything further related to your staff report?

[2:32:08] Trustee Rogers: You're muted, Brad.

[2:32:12] Planner: Sorry, the staff report is pretty straightforward.

[2:32:14] Planner: It is a standard template that we use at the end of all post-public hearing

[2:32:21] Planner: to make sure that the local trust committee has the opportunity to consider the results

[2:32:26] Planner: of the public hearing at today's meeting.

[2:32:29] Planner: LTC could decide to defer this staff report to the next meeting if you want more time to consider what you've heard in the public hearing today or proceed as recommended. Thanks.

[2:32:45] Trustee Rogers: Okay, so trustees here we are we're at the end of this particular piece, well not necessarily at the end of this road, how do you wish to proceed after hearing and all in particular information.

[2:32:57] Trustee Rogers: we can have a little discussion or someone could make a motion over to you trustee who wishes to

[2:33:04] Trustee Rogers: speak first you look like trustee wolverton looks like you've got you're unmuted trustee

[2:33:11] Trustee Rogers: rockefeller looks like she has some notes i

[2:33:14] Voice 5: i was just pointing to trustee rockefeller i have notes

[2:33:18] Voice 5: as well

[2:33:19] Trustee Rogers: okay well whoever would like to go first go go ahead go ahead to hero you jane has uh been

[2:33:26] Trustee Rogers: in first to each time today so you can be sure

[2:33:29] Voice 6: um i was so upon hearing the many comments from

[2:33:36] Voice 6: the community which have i feel like i've ranged from the desire for no stvrs at all or no regulation

[2:33:43] Voice 6: from both ends of the spectrum um i believe this bylaw amendment achieves a balance between those

[2:33:50] Voice 6: extremes and will help mitigate some possible negative side effects that commercial vacation

[2:33:55] Voice 6: rentals could have on Galliano's available housing supply while supporting

[2:34:00] Voice 6: local short-term vacation rental businesses. So I would be supportive of

[2:34:05] Voice 6: making the recommendation that's in the staff report.

[2:34:10] Trustee Rogers: Okay so Trustee Wolverton do you have?

[2:34:14] Voice 5: Yeah I have a few comments.

[2:34:17] Voice 5: Firstly I would just like to thank the community for actively participating in

[2:34:22] Voice 5: this discussion about STBRs. It's a complex issue and there are strong

[2:34:26] Voice 5: opinions on both sides of the question. Like my fellow trustees, I've read the entire public

[2:34:33] Voice 5: hearing binder that contains all of the staff reports, summaries of public input online and

[2:34:39] Voice 5: in the community meeting, as well as all the correspondence from the public. And I've also

[2:34:43] Voice 5: read many papers on the issue, including regulating short-term rentals toolkit that was sponsored by

[2:34:50] Voice 5: the Vancouver Foundation and the Real Estate Foundation and others. I think this issue is one

[2:34:58] Voice 5: with which many communities struggle. The solutions from other jurisdictions range from

[2:35:05] Voice 5: no interference to limited regulation to greater restriction or to banning altogether.

[2:35:12] Voice 5: And like my fellow trustee, Trustee Rockefeller, I believe that this bylaw does strike a fair

[2:35:18] Voice 5: balance by allowing vacation rentals of 30 days or more and continuing vacation rentals as a

[2:35:25] Voice 5: permitted home occupation when there is a full-time resident on the property. I think that longer-term

[2:35:32] Voice 5: rentals, 30 days or greater, provide visitors with a chance to experience the island, make local

[2:35:39] Voice 5: purchases, attend local events. There are fewer turnovers of occupancy and I believe that puts

[2:35:46] Voice 5: puts less strain on the environment from a water use point of view, laundry, et cetera.

[2:35:52] Voice 5: I think we have had examples of people who have come here for a few months and have got involved

[2:36:00] Voice 5: in the community. They've volunteered. One person ended up as an understudy in our Panto and

[2:36:10] Voice 5: and ended up starring when the lead had an accident and so I mean I think there are ways in

[2:36:16] Voice 5: which if we can attract people who want to stay for a month or two or a few more that still allows

[2:36:23] Voice 5: the owners to use their properties in the way that they would like. I think that the goal of this

[2:36:30] Voice 5: bylaws to protect our long-term housing and rental supply and prioritize housing for our residents

[2:36:36] Voice 5: when we lose our full-time residents we lose the potential for volunteers for

[2:36:42] Voice 5: neighbors for people to shop at our in our stores um so um um it what's interesting um

[2:36:56] Voice 5: you know the the research that i've seen is beginning to show that when short-term vacation

[2:37:04] Voice 5: rentals are restricted that property does begin to open up for long-term housing on galliano on the

[2:37:12] Voice 5: the analytics site air dna there are 45 active rentals listed 43 are entire homes and so that

[2:37:22] Voice 5: that you know we have um let me see how many sorry we have about uh 500 and uh so we have

[2:37:33] Voice 5: 1170 dwellings of which 564 are occupied by long-term residents. I just, you know, I would

[2:37:43] Voice 5: like to see some of that, you know, open up and I'm hoping that this bylaw will add to that. So

[2:37:52] Voice 5: that's all.

[2:37:58] Trustee Rogers: Thanks. I want to say I agree with both of you in the sense that there is a wide

[2:38:04] Trustee Rogers: variety of opinions from those who don't think this goes far enough, who I respect, and those

[2:38:16] Trustee Rogers: that think we should not be infringing on people's property rights, or at least providing the

[2:38:22] Trustee Rogers: mechanism, as a few of our speakers said today, to allow people to, I don't want to say monetize,

[2:38:30] Trustee Rogers: but to be able to run their STBRs and be able to live.

[2:38:35] Trustee Rogers: And I'm very conscious of the fact that any kind of a blanket rule

[2:38:43] Trustee Rogers: will adversely impact people who are otherwise very good citizens

[2:38:47] Trustee Rogers: and providing good service.

[2:38:51] Trustee Rogers: It is entirely impossible to, I believe, to simply say,

[2:38:59] Trustee Rogers: well these people contribute to the community so they should be able to do what they're going to do

[2:39:04] Trustee Rogers: as whereas these individuals over here we're not so sure about so we're not going to allow them.

[2:39:10] Trustee Rogers: That's the kind of indiscriminate or discriminant decision making that would be very problematic.

[2:39:20] Trustee Rogers: um so i want to say i've read all of the submissions um uh listened to all the comments

[2:39:29] Trustee Rogers: today uh and reread all the staff reports and the survey results etc uh it's clear there's no

[2:39:38] Trustee Rogers: consensus uh on the island on this issue and frankly most communities there is no consensus

[2:39:44] Trustee Rogers: on this issue and that it's in my view there is much truth on both sides of the issue

[2:39:53] Trustee Rogers: I think that you know TUP's use to create STVRs was introduced I believe in 2014

[2:40:06] Trustee Rogers: 2014 with a view to seeing how it worked by a previous LTC. We don't have the ability to

[2:40:15] Trustee Rogers: have a licensing process, a business licensing process. So our options are somewhat limited.

[2:40:25] Trustee Rogers: We can either change zoning or put zoning in place like we have with home occupations

[2:40:30] Trustee Rogers: or we have temporary use permits.

[2:40:34] Trustee Rogers: I've always found temporary use permits for this purpose to be awkward

[2:40:39] Trustee Rogers: because by definition, they're intended to be temporary

[2:40:42] Trustee Rogers: and there's that renewal process

[2:40:45] Trustee Rogers: and it's not intended to be a long-term solution.

[2:40:48] Trustee Rogers: But that's the tool that was in our toolbox

[2:40:51] Trustee Rogers: and it's a tool that's in the toolbox of all the islands

[2:40:54] Trustee Rogers: and other local governments.

[2:40:57] Trustee Rogers: There are a mixture of processes on other islands

[2:41:00] Trustee Rogers: from basically banning STVRs to allowing them in most circumstances to others for use of TUPs in

[2:41:13] Trustee Rogers: some places as well. Each island and community is working towards the equilibrium that it feels

[2:41:21] Trustee Rogers: comfortable with. There's truth in much of what many of those who we heard from today and who

[2:41:28] Trustee Rogers: who support the current system say,

[2:41:30] Trustee Rogers: I accept that it's true that numbers of non,

[2:41:37] Trustee Rogers: sorry, non-resident STVR owners will not rent out long-term.

[2:41:43] Trustee Rogers: I'm quite sure that that's true.

[2:41:46] Trustee Rogers: I also accept that many TUP STVRs

[2:41:50] Trustee Rogers: have operated conscientiously

[2:41:53] Trustee Rogers: and have been net contributors to the Island.

[2:41:57] Trustee Rogers: But I, too, hold out a hope or a view that, and I think there's some evidence to support this, that at least some of the housing stock will be made available to members of the island.

[2:42:11] Trustee Rogers: I also accept that housing, noise, increased tourism, et cetera, water uses are all issues of increasing concern on Galeano and that for some, they are in some way related to the increased STBR use on the island.

[2:42:37] Trustee Rogers: I don't know the exact correlation, but there is some correlation.

[2:42:44] Trustee Rogers: So, this, what I've sort of come to the conclusion of is, I don't have the local experience that the two local trustees do and many of the people we've heard from do.

[2:42:59] Trustee Rogers: I don't live on Galliano. And so I take a lot of guidance that this is the type, this is the type of policy move that the local trustees wish to make and I will support them in that.

[2:43:12] Trustee Rogers: I think this is I'll call it an experiment from 2014 is proposed to be ended as I said the two

[2:43:20] Trustee Rogers: local trustees live there and have a much better handle on how this may will work in every day on

[2:43:30] Trustee Rogers: Galliano and I support their efforts to change course so I'll be voting once the motion is made

[2:43:40] Trustee Rogers: I'll be voting in favor of the recommendations that are before those are my reasons so does

[2:43:48] Trustee Rogers: anybody else wish to say anything else before someone makes the motion trustee rocker fellow

[2:43:54] Trustee Rogers: do you want to make the motion um

[2:43:57] Voice 6: I'll move that the galliano island local trust committee proposed

[2:44:01] Voice 6: bylaw number 275 cited as galliano island official community plan bylaw number 108

[2:44:07] Voice 6: 1995 amendment number one be read a third time

[2:44:10] Trustee Rogers: there's a seconder okay any further discussion

[2:44:14] Trustee Rogers: If not, I'll call the vote.

[2:44:16] Trustee Rogers: All in favor?

[2:44:17] Trustee Rogers: There's a second motion that passes unanimously.

[2:44:20] Trustee Rogers: There's a second motion.

[2:44:22] Voice 6: A move that the Galliano Island Local Trust Committee

[2:44:25] Voice 6: proposed by a law number 275 be forwarded

[2:44:28] Voice 6: to the secretary of the analyst trust

[2:44:29] Voice 6: for executive committee approval.

[2:44:31] Trustee Rogers: Is there a seconder?

[2:44:32] Trustee Rogers: Okay, any further discussion?

[2:44:34] Trustee Rogers: If not, I'll call the vote.

[2:44:35] Trustee Rogers: All in favor?

[2:44:38] Trustee Rogers: Go ahead.

[2:44:39] Voice 6: That the Galliano Island Local Trust Committee

[2:44:41] Voice 6: proposed by a law number 275 be forwarded

[2:44:44] Voice 6: to the minister of municipal affairs for approval is

[2:44:47] Trustee Rogers: there a second here and all in favor

[2:44:49] Trustee Rogers: passes unanimously um so thank you very much for this and uh the um we're now at the that

[2:44:58] Trustee Rogers: this process is now third reading just so you know the process is the executive committee has to

[2:45:05] Trustee Rogers: approve of the bylaw it also has to be approved by the minister because it's an ocp amendment

[2:45:11] Trustee Rogers: that generally takes three months, four months,

[2:45:17] Trustee Rogers: something like that.

[2:45:18] Trustee Rogers: And then would come back to the normal process

[2:45:23] Trustee Rogers: would be to come back to the local trust committee

[2:45:28] Trustee Rogers: for adoption, presuming it's approved

[2:45:31] Trustee Rogers: by both of those entities.

[2:45:33] Trustee Rogers: And then once it's adopted, then becomes the new bylaw.

[2:45:39] Trustee Rogers: So thanks very much.

[2:45:40] Trustee Rogers: Gosh. So that's the end of that report. So that takes us actually to our work program,

[2:45:48] Trustee Rogers: which is 15.1. And I guess I deferred the discussion about that's on page 61,

[2:45:57] Trustee Rogers: depending on the outcome of that discussion. And I guess my question is for the trustees is

[2:46:05] Trustee Rogers: is this actual policy practice was actually,

[2:46:10] Trustee Rogers: this project was part of what was called

[2:46:13] Trustee Rogers: the Affordable Housing Strategy.

[2:46:15] Trustee Rogers: And given that, you know,

[2:46:18] Trustee Rogers: unless there's a bump somewhere along the way,

[2:46:20] Trustee Rogers: and that the SDVR review is done,

[2:46:25] Trustee Rogers: is whether how you wish to deal with our top priorities,

[2:46:28] Trustee Rogers: do you want to give that some thought

[2:46:30] Trustee Rogers: and come back to it in March

[2:46:32] Trustee Rogers: and give how you'd like your priorities to look.

[2:46:36] Trustee Rogers: We're sort of in the middle

[2:46:37] Trustee Rogers: of our land use bylaw amendments.

[2:46:39] Trustee Rogers: We've given them, we've got our groundwater

[2:46:41] Trustee Rogers: sustainability project out there.

[2:46:44] Trustee Rogers: If you want to wait till March, that's fine with me,

[2:46:46] Trustee Rogers: or I thought I'd give you the opportunity

[2:46:48] Trustee Rogers: to address that right now.

[2:46:55] Voice 3: Is

[2:47:00] Trustee Rogers: there more to the affordable housing strategy,

[2:47:02] Trustee Rogers: another stage you want to go to?

[2:47:05] Trustee Rogers: That's what

[2:47:05] Voice 6: I was just going to say.

[2:47:06] Voice 6: Yeah, it says phase one.

[2:47:08] Voice 6: So I believe the APC gave us a report on affordable housing.

[2:47:12] Voice 6: They

[2:47:12] Trustee Rogers: did in 2018.

[2:47:14] Voice 6: 2018, yeah.

[2:47:15] Trustee Rogers: It's referenced in one of the staff reports, but it's also on our agenda.

[2:47:21] Trustee Rogers: So if you wanted to go back and have that brought back to our agenda in March and then

[2:47:27] Trustee Rogers: have a discussion about where affordable housing, what else we could do on that, we could do.

[2:47:33] Trustee Rogers: Or we could have a discussion about some of the other priorities we've identified over

[2:47:37] Trustee Rogers: over the last 12 months, such as the road network plan,

[2:47:41] Trustee Rogers: the forestry policy.

[2:47:42] Trustee Rogers: I think we've been urged by a couple of people

[2:47:45] Trustee Rogers: to look at split zoning.

[2:47:47] Trustee Rogers: You know, there's a number of things we could do.

[2:47:49] Trustee Rogers: So should we defer that until March

[2:47:51] Trustee Rogers: when we can consider that?

[2:47:54] Voice 4: I think so.

[2:47:58] Trustee Rogers: So can I suggest then that we get a motion

[2:48:01] Trustee Rogers: that the APC report on affordable housing issues

[2:48:07] Trustee Rogers: issues be brought to our agenda in March

[2:48:12] Trustee Rogers: for consideration of top priorities

[2:48:15] Trustee Rogers: or something like that?

[2:48:18] Voice 6: Yeah, I would second that.

[2:48:20] Voice 6: Okay.

[2:48:21] Trustee Rogers: Does that make sense to you, Carly?

[2:48:24] Voice 6: Yes, thanks, Chair.

[2:48:26] Trustee Rogers: Okay.

[2:48:27] Trustee Rogers: So that would just mean

[2:48:30] Trustee Rogers: all we have to do, Brad or Maple,

[2:48:32] Trustee Rogers: is just include that report again

[2:48:34] Trustee Rogers: in our agenda package

[2:48:37] Trustee Rogers: so that the members of the community can see what it is we're looking at as we discuss,

[2:48:45] Trustee Rogers: and then we can come back and review our top priorities.

[2:48:48] Trustee Rogers: Is that okay?

[2:48:49] Planner: Mm-hmm.

[2:48:50] Trustee Rogers: Great.

[2:48:51] Trustee Rogers: Just

[2:48:51] Planner: to clarify that you do have three priorities right now,

[2:48:55] Planner: and obviously you're moving forward with your water project for the next stage of that.

[2:49:00] Planner: Yeah.

[2:49:00] Planner: will take some time for the approvals and close out of the stvr project to come to to be finalized

[2:49:08] Planner: and the tech amendments uh will be brought forward at the next meeting for uh local trust

[2:49:15] Planner: committee consideration yeah

[2:49:16] Trustee Rogers: and i i think i think what's going to the discussion we're going to have

[2:49:20] Trustee Rogers: by brad is is that is is that um are we going to carry on with another phase of the of the

[2:49:28] Trustee Rogers: the affordable housing strategy as recommend other or look at other recommendations from the

[2:49:34] Trustee Rogers: apc around that or are we going to pick up some other topic uh that we'd like to work on for the

[2:49:40] Trustee Rogers: remainder of this term and i'm quite aware of capacity issues and we've got i'm just making

[2:49:47] Planner: yeah just making that clear that before we jump on a new project we will have to complete that

[2:49:51] Planner: other one um and so do you want that under new business or do you see that under just uh this

[2:49:57] Planner: this work program report, having that conversation there.

[2:49:59] Planner: Might make the

[2:50:00] Trustee Rogers: most sense there.

[2:50:00] Trustee Rogers: I probably put it under the work program report.

[2:50:03] Planner: Sure, we'll do that there then, thanks.

[2:50:05] Planner: Thanks.

[2:50:08] Trustee Rogers: And so what I would encourage trustees having

[2:50:11] Trustee Rogers: is also to look at the ones that we've put on our agenda

[2:50:16] Trustee Rogers: over the years, the 11 of them.

[2:50:22] Trustee Rogers: And so, and you know, and some of these interestingly

[2:50:26] Trustee Rogers: Interestingly, like number 10, for example, is an active project on Main Island right now.

[2:50:34] Trustee Rogers: And you might want to wait and see what we come up with there, which is interesting.

[2:50:37] Trustee Rogers: Narisha Chadwick is our planner on that.

[2:50:39] Trustee Rogers: And we're quite active and that's going forward.

[2:50:41] Trustee Rogers: It's not so much trailers, but it's tiny homes and the issue of how you can distribute a floor space.

[2:50:46] Trustee Rogers: So that sort of thing, you might want to wait and see what they do.

[2:50:48] Trustee Rogers: of course we we do have the water sustainability project which is not exactly the same as number

[2:50:56] Trustee Rogers: 11 but you might want to consider anyway there's the number of things you can so what i would

[2:51:00] Trustee Rogers: encourage you to do is look through our list think about what we've been told by you've been

[2:51:04] Trustee Rogers: told by the community and in relation to this and then let's have a fulsome discussion in march

[2:51:13] Trustee Rogers: about what should be what we might want to add to our top priorities once the

[2:51:17] Trustee Rogers: STVR review comes presumably comes off

[2:51:21] Voice 13: okay great

[2:51:24] Trustee Rogers: so that's that we've already

[2:51:27] Trustee Rogers: done 15 we were at 16.1 which is page 78 I was

[2:51:33] Trustee Rogers: just wondering

[2:51:35] Voice 6: on standing

[2:51:36] Voice 6: resolutions do we need to I remember planner Kojima mentioning something

[2:51:41] Voice 6: something about updating them oh

[2:51:44] Trustee Rogers: right great

[2:51:45] Voice 19: trait yeah we can uh look we'll look at that as

[2:51:48] Voice 19: as the stvr bylaw progresses through probably when it comes back to the ltc

[2:51:55] Voice 19: okay i also have some recommendations to either delete or modify those standing resolutions

[2:52:02] Voice 19: right i think there's two of them that are specific to tups for vacation rentals yeah

[2:52:08] Trustee Rogers: Yeah, there's 216-000.

[2:52:14] Trustee Rogers: Yeah.

[2:52:16] Trustee Rogers: Okay.

[2:52:17] Trustee Rogers: So those will come back to us when it comes back for adoption.

[2:52:22] Trustee Rogers: Is that what you're affecting?

[2:52:23] Voice 19: That's what I was suggesting, yeah.

[2:52:24] Trustee Rogers: Is that okay with you, Trustee Rockefeller?

[2:52:26] Trustee Rogers: Good memory, though.

[2:52:27] Trustee Rogers: I'd forgotten that already.

[2:52:28] Trustee Rogers: I mean, he only said it 20, 40 minutes ago.

[2:52:31] Trustee Rogers: So

[2:52:31] Voice 3: page

[2:52:34] Trustee Rogers: 78 is the letter from Salt Spring,

[2:52:39] Trustee Rogers: which is an invitation to have somebody join a meeting

[2:52:49] Trustee Rogers: of the Southern Gulf Island LTCs

[2:52:57] Trustee Rogers: to discuss how to address, interestingly,

[2:53:02] Trustee Rogers: short-term vacation rental communications and strategies um i can tell you that um

[2:53:08] Trustee Rogers: believe trustee mcconkey from north pender and trustee maude from maine and have been

[2:53:17] Trustee Rogers: appointed i'm not sure who the other ones would be do you know robert south

[2:53:22] Voice 19: pender was i believe

[2:53:23] Voice 19: it's trustee right and

[2:53:25] Trustee Rogers: is saturn appointed

[2:53:27] Voice 19: anybody not yet

[2:53:28] Trustee Rogers: they

[2:53:29] Voice 19: meet they meet in a couple

[2:53:30] Voice 19: weeks and

[2:53:31] Trustee Rogers: i'm pretty sure that trustee that vice chair patrick will probably be the person from

[2:53:36] Trustee Rogers: yes salt spring because she's been driving this project and i i know from talking to the trustee

[2:53:43] Trustee Rogers: patrick that what her theory is is that they should have a community they should be a discussion that

[2:53:48] Trustee Rogers: occurs so that you can sort of jointly deal with your strategies around stbr issues on the various

[2:53:55] Trustee Rogers: Islands sort of understand what the restrictions are and what the attitude is towards them so

[2:54:04] Trustee Rogers: that's I guess the question for the two trustees because this won't be me is whether someone's

[2:54:10] Trustee Rogers: interested in what you would like to participate in that.

[2:54:13] Voice 4: Do you want to go ahead Tahira and join

[2:54:19] Voice 4: that?

[2:54:20] Voice 6: I'm happy to join it but if you have more available time you have better discussion points.

[2:54:28] Voice 6: and public speaking abilities i

[2:54:30] Voice 5: could i could uh join and and then see if there i mean i'm

[2:54:35] Voice 5: assuming it will just be a meeting or two but there this isn't necessarily an ongoing

[2:54:41] Voice 5: kind of gathering

[2:54:43] Trustee Rogers: yeah i i mean i do know that there is some point of view that there should be

[2:54:48] Trustee Rogers: sort of more i don't want to call it coordination but at least uh cooperation between the various

[2:54:55] Trustee Rogers: southern gulf islands that are facing similar issues um and uh but um it but but this is a

[2:55:05] Trustee Rogers: separate individual matter related just to sdvrs uh so i would guess it would be relatively because

[2:55:12] Trustee Rogers: each of you each local trust committee my understanding is a very different place right

[2:55:16] Trustee Rogers: now some of us like we just passed given third reading i think north pender is about to do

[2:55:21] Trustee Rogers: And South

[2:55:23] Voice 19: Pender, North and South Pender are both about to have public hearings.

[2:55:26] Voice 19: Right.

[2:55:27] Trustee Rogers: And Maine Islands has a very different attitude towards STBRs, which is, you

[2:55:32] Trustee Rogers: know, they don't have a problem.

[2:55:35] Trustee Rogers: And

[2:55:36] Voice 19: Saturna amended their guidelines late last term.

[2:55:40] Trustee Rogers: So anyway, so I

[2:55:42] Trustee Rogers: don't think, I don't know where it will go, but I would defer to Vice Chair Packard as to what her vision is.

[2:55:49] Trustee Rogers: so if you if you're interested in joining sure

[2:55:54] Voice 5: i i can join and then if it looks like if there's

[2:55:57] Voice 5: a meeting that i can't make maybe we can switch

[2:56:01] Trustee Rogers: what i'll do then is if that's okay with you is

[2:56:05] Trustee Rogers: i'll just send an email saying that trust me i don't copy you that trustee wolverton will be

[2:56:10] Trustee Rogers: the president from gallia

[2:56:11] Voice 5: and and trustee rockefeller will be my backup

[2:56:14] Voice 5: cup i'm the alternate alternate

[2:56:18] Voice 6: he's

[2:56:20] Trustee Rogers: got your back uh thanks i'll do that uh 162 apc member

[2:56:26] Trustee Rogers: update expression of interest update i'm not sure what that's about maybe

[2:56:31] Trustee Rogers: just

[2:56:34] Planner: to let you know that uh um the expression of interest has now been sent out for that one

[2:56:43] Planner: and a member of the APC who's the previous member withdrew.

[2:56:47] Planner: So that advertisement is out, and it will be on a future LTC agenda for consideration.

[2:56:54] Planner: I have quite a bit of interest in that position from members of the public over the last few weeks.

[2:57:00] Planner: So there will probably be a number of applicants.

[2:57:04] Trustee Rogers: Thank you.

[2:57:07] Trustee Rogers: And then 16.3, again, I'm not quite sure what this is.

[2:57:12] Trustee Rogers: okay

[2:57:13] Voice 5: i had um said that i would we talked about it briefly in november i believe and that i would

[2:57:20] Voice 5: bring something back um to to this meeting and so i i do have a resolution but maybe i'll just

[2:57:29] Voice 5: preface it by saying that um we have a number of important reports that the ltc has received

[2:57:36] Voice 5: received and what I would be seeking would be input from the APC on how best to engage the

[2:57:46] Voice 5: community in discussions about these reports or that's basically given given our the pandemic

[2:57:56] Voice 5: so my resolution is whereas the Galliano Local Trust Committee has received several important

[2:58:02] Voice 5: reports relating to climate and the environment and whereas the current pandemic restricts the

[2:58:08] Voice 5: community coming together in person to discuss these reports be it resolved that the galliano

[2:58:13] Voice 5: local trust committee refer this matter to the galliano advisory planning commission

[2:58:17] Voice 5: and request that the apc reviews the existing reports discusses and recommends some strategies

[2:58:23] Voice 5: for engaging galliano residents in reviewing and discussing these reports initiatives as well as

[2:58:29] Voice 5: the trust mandate so i kind of listed issues and reports so the the trust act and policy statement

[2:58:39] Voice 5: is just one reconciliation uh information about development permit areas climate action on

[2:58:45] Voice 5: galliano the coastal douglas fir toolkit groundwater sustainability uh and reviewing the road network

[2:58:54] Voice 5: plan because that also was previously referred so both climate action and the road network plan

[2:59:00] Voice 5: were previously were dealt with by a previous abc did

[2:59:11] Trustee Rogers: you by any chance uh send that motion to

[2:59:15] Trustee Rogers: carly i

[2:59:16] Voice 5: did oh

[2:59:18] Trustee Rogers: i

[2:59:19] Voice 5: did i did alter it just slightly carly but mostly it's what i sent you thank you i

[2:59:24] Voice 5: got that that's great

[2:59:25] Trustee Rogers: carly do you have the ability to to share your screen um

[2:59:31] Voice 10: i do yeah

[2:59:32] Voice 10: Can

[2:59:32] Trustee Rogers: you put that? I'd just like to see that if possible. If it's possible for you to share

[2:59:41] Trustee Rogers: that motion, sometimes seeing it in writing, that's personally, it's just that it sounded

[2:59:46] Trustee Rogers: good, but I wouldn't mind seeing it. Okay. So can I ask a question, Trustee Wolvener?

[2:59:55] Trustee Rogers: When you're referring reports, you're talking about reports like the ones we get.

[3:00:00] Trustee Rogers: it from the trust as opposed to the ones that come to the LTC?

[3:00:04] Voice 5: Both, both. Like the Coastal Douglas

[3:00:08] Voice 5: for, you know, it just, there are, there are these really important reports and I don't want them to

[3:00:14] Voice 5: sit on shelves and not get introduced to the community or not have the community's input in

[3:00:20] Voice 5: how they could be implemented. You know, what, what are some ideas out there? That's, that's my

[3:00:28] Voice 5: I thought, and right now, I mean, you know, I know that a year ago before, before the pandemic

[3:00:38] Voice 5: to hear, and I had kind of talked about, you know, how to bring people together to talk about

[3:00:43] Voice 5: climate change and the forests and water, and just to have those, those discussions in the

[3:00:48] Voice 5: community and have, you know, have that kind of dissemination of information and then feedback

[3:00:56] Voice 5: back from the community okay so

[3:00:59] Voice 5: let me let

[3:00:59] Trustee Rogers: me just ask another question how would you envision

[3:01:02] Trustee Rogers: uh do you envision specific reports going to the apc or do you just envision the bigger

[3:01:10] Trustee Rogers: the broader issue of how we go about having community engagement on these things going to

[3:01:16] Trustee Rogers: i

[3:01:16] Voice 5: did envisage reports going there that they could look at and and have you know have some

[3:01:24] Voice 5: maybe that would give them some ideas okay

[3:01:29] Trustee Rogers: because you have and you mentioned a few in your

[3:01:32] Trustee Rogers: your preface but you didn't they aren't in the motion so would you imagine working with

[3:01:38] Trustee Rogers: i'm not sure who puts up sets up the referral is that you is it the planner says of the referral

[3:01:43] Trustee Rogers: or is it the planning assistant who sets up the referral brad or maple uh both

[3:01:51] Planner: both of us yeah

[3:01:52] Voice 9: both of us yeah i

[3:01:54] Planner: would take the resolution and draft a letter and then we would work together

[3:01:58] Planner: to make sure all the reports are appended

[3:02:02] Planner: and then Maple would email that to APC.

[3:02:04] Trustee Rogers: I see.

[3:02:05] Trustee Rogers: And then I gather what you would envision,

[3:02:09] Trustee Rogers: Trustee Wolverton,

[3:02:10] Trustee Rogers: is that you would work with the planner

[3:02:14] Trustee Rogers: or the planning assistant

[3:02:15] Trustee Rogers: to put together the reports

[3:02:17] Trustee Rogers: you wanted to send off to them.

[3:02:20] Voice 3: Is

[3:02:20] Trustee Rogers: that the way you would imagine it working?

[3:02:23] Trustee Rogers: Sure.

[3:02:24] Trustee Rogers: So thank you.

[3:02:25] Trustee Rogers: So just for my clarity,

[3:02:27] Trustee Rogers: Trustee Rockefeller, do you have any comments?

[3:02:31] Voice 6: Yeah, I really appreciate that. I would love to get engagement with the community on these reports.

[3:02:38] Voice 6: I'm just thinking if I was on the APC, I would say, have a zoom meeting, because I really don't

[3:02:44] Voice 6: know how else you can recommend strategies, other than is it engaging with specialists that would

[3:02:53] Voice 6: be able to discuss the options? Would it be for the planner to discuss the options that the APC

[3:02:58] Voice 6: has already recommended or ideas it just seems like we're missing the link between uh the ltc

[3:03:07] Voice 6: you know doing something with the report and then engaging with the community it seems like it's

[3:03:12] Voice 6: just engaging with the suggestions which doesn't really reflect me what the ltc i don't know

[3:03:19] Voice 6: anyways i feel it's a bit vague and if i was an abc i might be a bit troubled with how to move

[3:03:24] Voice 6: forward with it but um yeah i'm supportive of you know reviewing these reports again with the

[3:03:30] Voice 6: community the other

[3:03:33] Trustee Rogers: thing i would say is um of course uh let's say you wanted the

[3:03:40] Trustee Rogers: coastal douglas fir to become a pro to become an issue for discussion with the community

[3:03:49] Trustee Rogers: it's got to be become a project um and it's got to end up on our top priority list like it is on

[3:03:57] Trustee Rogers: salt spring right now and frankly we just added it i or we're about to add it on gabriola

[3:04:02] Trustee Rogers: um because we're seeing it as a potential for um looping in a whole bunch of ecosystem protection

[3:04:10] Trustee Rogers: measures uh and to piggyback on the work that salt spring is doing i'm getting ahead of myself

[3:04:16] Trustee Rogers: because we aren't there yet on gabriola but that's that's the thought so whatever they

[3:04:22] Trustee Rogers: recommend will end up end up being a work project that we'd have to create some space for so

[3:04:29] Trustee Rogers: so

[3:04:30] Voice 5: i think also uh i mean i i think it's great to hear that the other islands are

[3:04:35] Voice 5: are looking at this as well um it may also be that the apc could recommend some speakers

[3:04:44] Voice 5: you know on these issues and that we could create some webinars or so on I mean we've had

[3:04:51] Voice 5: like we've had Kate Emmings present when we when we were early on in our term

[3:04:58] Voice 5: and maybe there are ways that we can make use of of our our staff's expertise without going into a

[3:05:06] Voice 5: big project yes

[3:05:10] Trustee Rogers: trust me i think

[3:05:11] Voice 6: if we were through the chair if we are um going to have

[3:05:17] Voice 6: webinars and whatnot i believe that still would have to fall under a project because it still is

[3:05:22] Voice 6: staff organizing you know dates schedules times printouts and we'd want to discuss as an ltc what

[3:05:31] Voice 6: what we were presenting.

[3:05:33] Voice 6: Yeah, so I don't know.

[3:05:37] Trustee Rogers: Yeah, I mean, it's hard to avoid.

[3:05:40] Trustee Rogers: I mean, I know it's tempting to try and get into a scenario

[3:05:43] Trustee Rogers: where you take this outside of the structure of the LTC

[3:05:49] Trustee Rogers: and make it part of a community discussion,

[3:05:51] Trustee Rogers: which is I know what you're aiming at,

[3:05:53] Trustee Rogers: partly what you're aiming at Trustee Wolverton.

[3:05:55] Trustee Rogers: It's hard to avoid those structures

[3:05:58] Trustee Rogers: because as soon as it becomes a discussion item for us

[3:06:02] Trustee Rogers: and and there's some potential action um you know we're we're taking that and that's why

[3:06:08] Trustee Rogers: most of the education that happens happens at a trust-wide level

[3:06:13] Voice 3: but

[3:06:14] Trustee Rogers: in any case there's a motion

[3:06:16] Trustee Rogers: and i haven't asked if it's if it's seconded yet um so i guess i'm turning to the other

[3:06:22] Trustee Rogers: trustees whether you're going to second this motion um put it on the table trustee rockefeller

[3:06:30] Voice 6: Well, I don't want to discourage from communicating with the community.

[3:06:34] Voice 6: I mean, I'm just hesitant to put work on the APC's table

[3:06:38] Voice 6: when I don't know if it will offer any help.

[3:06:43] Voice 6: And these reports are really important to me.

[3:06:46] Voice 6: The previous APC put a lot of work into them.

[3:06:49] Voice 6: And all the reports that were the road network plan

[3:06:54] Voice 6: and the climate and the CDF reports,

[3:06:59] Voice 6: and I would assume that when those projects come up for this LTC or the next LTC that those reports would be referred to, possibly?

[3:07:14] Voice 6: Mm-hmm.

[3:07:15] Voice 4: Hopefully.

[3:07:19] Planner: Can I just make a comment?

[3:07:21] Planner: Yeah.

[3:07:22] Planner: Chair Rogers, please.

[3:07:23] Planner: Yeah,

[3:07:24] Trustee Rogers: we're just trying to work our way through whether we're going to second this motion or not.

[3:07:27] Planner: i'm just going to perhaps it would be more worthwhile for you to ask apc to provide some

[3:07:34] Planner: guidance on what uh they think your priorities should be going forward and they could use those

[3:07:40] Planner: reports uh as part of that consideration that's one more clear question you could ask them anyways

[3:07:48] Planner: just a suggestion sure

[3:07:52] Voice 5: that's

[3:07:53] Planner: just a suggestion to provide provide a bit more clarity as to what

[3:07:57] Planner: what you're actually asking them to do and then but yeah

[3:08:03] Trustee Rogers: so you're yeah so the point is you just

[3:08:05] Trustee Rogers: say here's all the priorities we've identified which do you think we should be pursuing in the

[3:08:11] Trustee Rogers: remainder of our term and

[3:08:13] Planner: and here's a bunch of the the background documents that we've produced

[3:08:17] Planner: that just kind of support these projects that we've added to our list and now we're at a point

[3:08:23] Planner: where you really probably you you know you have one slot coming up and uh and that slot will

[3:08:32] Planner: probably be something that you'll want to see out for the remainder of your term so

[3:08:36] Planner: with the groundwater report or the groundwater project carrying on and the land use

[3:08:43] Planner: technical amendments probably at least six months from being completed um says you're you have a

[3:08:49] Planner: number of projects there and not a lot of capacity to prior so prioritization will be important and

[3:08:57] Planner: so perhaps they could provide a bit of at least their perspective on what they see as the highest

[3:09:04] Planner: priorities going forward but

[3:09:06] Voice 16: that's just just thanks thanks planner smith yeah trustee um i

[3:09:11] Voice 6: would i don't think i'm gonna second either suggestions um because we haven't yet finished

[3:09:17] Voice 6: a third or we still have three projects we were going to discuss the top priorities at the next

[3:09:23] Voice 6: meeting um and we still have to look at the affordable housing uh suggestions from the apc

[3:09:30] Voice 6: report from 2018 so i think it'd be jumping the gun right now to request a list from the apc as

[3:09:37] Voice 6: to what they recommend in addition to the fact that chair rogers has mentioned that there is cdf

[3:09:42] Voice 6: work going forward on two other islands possibly which might just be i'm not going to say no

[3:09:48] Voice 6: brainer because it's a terrible term but no brainer so i'm i don't think i want to put

[3:09:55] Voice 6: work on the apc right now until i'm sure that it's going to be conducive to us moving forward

[3:10:02] Voice 6: with the project i'll

[3:10:05] Voice 5: accept that from my fellow trustee okay

[3:10:08] Trustee Rogers: so we'll we'll just put this motion

[3:10:11] Trustee Rogers: has been moved but not seconded are you okay with that trustee wolverton and and we can save it for

[3:10:17] Trustee Rogers: perhaps when we come back again in march to consider the top priorities and and if there

[3:10:23] Trustee Rogers: are if there is a specific report you think is languishing on the on the shelves that you you

[3:10:30] Trustee Rogers: would like like we did with the um the climate change action plan or whatever it was that we

[3:10:37] Trustee Rogers: referred off and we got this excellent report back from the APC and I'm going to say it was in

[3:10:45] Trustee Rogers: late 2019 early

[3:10:48] Voice 5: 2019 yeah yeah

[3:10:49] Trustee Rogers: and it was an excellent report and at some point we need to

[3:10:54] Trustee Rogers: go back and look at it again hopefully I know

[3:10:57] Voice 5: because I just wanted to talk about my my

[3:11:00] Voice 5: experience in government and when I left government after 30 plus years I had to clear out a lot of

[3:11:07] Voice 5: of the stuff that I had uh you know squirreled away and I went through like report after report

[3:11:14] Voice 5: after report that had excellent recommendations never implemented another one excellent

[3:11:20] Voice 5: recommendations never implemented and they were just stacks of these and I just don't want us to

[3:11:26] Voice 5: um be like that yeah I want to make

[3:11:30] Trustee Rogers: sure that if you have one that you are very passionate about

[3:11:34] Trustee Rogers: or two or three that you think that we would we could um benefit from the input of the apc they're

[3:11:40] Trustee Rogers: busy right now they've got a fairly important referral but they've probably got some capacity

[3:11:45] Trustee Rogers: in the next six months uh

[3:11:47] Voice 5: then bring it

[3:11:48] Trustee Rogers: bring it and let's send it to them okay yeah

[3:11:50] Voice 5: okay no it

[3:11:51] Voice 5: sounds good okay

[3:11:53] Trustee Rogers: thanks a lot great discussion by the way um all right uh so the next meeting

[3:11:59] Trustee Rogers: is March 1st we'll see you back here exactly 28 days from now and then now we have the opportunity

[3:12:07] Trustee Rogers: for a second town hall we do not have a closed meeting today before I ask trustee

[3:12:15] Trustee Rogers: Wolverton to move leave us I was going to ask with the same questions and pre-pre-statements

[3:12:25] Trustee Rogers: as before does anybody wish to speak at the second town hall um i'm seeing we still have

[3:12:32] Trustee Rogers: nine attendees and want to see if anybody else would anybody would like to say speak please put

[3:12:37] Trustee Rogers: your hand up um i'm not seeing any hands yet uh so middle of the bottom of your screen

[3:12:51] Trustee Rogers: very quiet on galliano um anyway um oh daphne who's is it is it something that we should know

[3:13:04] Trustee Rogers: during the course of the meeting maple um

[3:13:07] Voice 9: so basically daphne emailed me and she was wondering

[3:13:11] Voice 9: if the chair wanted to um just state the amount of attendees that were here in the meeting once

[3:13:15] Voice 9: again oh well

[3:13:17] Voice 9: yeah well

[3:13:18] Trustee Rogers: well the high was we had uh uh we had 18 attendees and seven panelists so

[3:13:26] Trustee Rogers: and right now we're at nine so it's it started at about nine ten and went up to as high as 18

[3:13:33] Trustee Rogers: and it's back down to nine okay so i'm not seeing anybody else wishing to speak um so uh i think and

[3:13:45] Trustee Rogers: and there is no closed meeting today.

[3:13:47] Trustee Rogers: So I'm going to say that thank you all

[3:13:50] Trustee Rogers: for your attendance today.

[3:13:51] Trustee Rogers: Thank you for your input,

[3:13:52] Trustee Rogers: for the discussion around the community updates.

[3:13:57] Trustee Rogers: Thank you, Suzanne and others for that.

[3:14:00] Trustee Rogers: Thank you, RPM Kojima.

[3:14:03] Trustee Rogers: Thank you, Planner Smith.

[3:14:06] Trustee Rogers: Maple, can we, and so I'm going to call the meeting

[3:14:10] Trustee Rogers: to a close, but can we keep the link

[3:14:12] Trustee Rogers: just for the panelists open for a minute?

[3:14:14] Trustee Rogers: can you do that or

[3:14:15] Trustee Rogers: can't you do that

[3:14:16] Voice 9: um i can it'll just take me about a minute though

[3:14:20] Trustee Rogers: anyway so

[3:14:21] Voice 9: okay so you're adjourning the meeting then i am

[3:14:24] Trustee Rogers: adjourning the meeting okay

[3:14:26] Voice 9: okay so i'm gonna stop recording