Islands Trust Council regular meeting, March 30, 2021

[0:00:00] Trustee Stamford: to our meeting. Thank you all for joining us today for the Islands Trust Conservancy Board

[0:00:08] Trustee Stamford: meeting and I'd like to begin the meeting by acknowledging that we are gathered on the

[0:00:12] Trustee Stamford: traditional ancestral and unceded territory of the Coast Salish peoples. And then we have a long

[0:00:21] Trustee Stamford: fairly long introduction but just a reminder to board members that if you'd like to speak

[0:00:27] Trustee Stamford: I was going to say you have to raise your digital hand but just looking I think a visual hand should

[0:00:36] Trustee Stamford: be good enough because I can see everybody on the screen apart from staff and I'll keep an eye out

[0:00:42] Trustee Stamford: for that trustee Fenton oh no you've turned it so I can I know you're working that's good

[0:00:48] Trustee Stamford: yeah um so i'm calling this meeting to order and um we have one minor change to the agenda

[0:00:57] Trustee Stamford: that um manager emmings emailed me earlier and that is uh staff updates that's 1.1

[0:01:05] Trustee Stamford: and is there any other additions or changes um from any of the other board members

[0:01:12] Trustee Stamford: seeing none we'll um confirm that by consensus and then we have uh next we have the rising report

[0:01:25] Trustee Stamford: from january 26th in camera meeting and that is 4.11 fund development action plan and that that

[0:01:34] Trustee Stamford: is the islands trust conservancy board approved an internal fund development action plan and then

[0:01:42] Trustee Stamford: we go into the minutes of January 26th and this is in our regular meeting minutes are there any

[0:01:52] Trustee Stamford: additions or changes that anyone noticed in our regular meeting minutes any questions arising

[0:02:02] Trustee Stamford: go ahead trustee fast yeah

[0:02:04] Trustee Fast: I just noticed that the minutes seem to be getting more detailed

[0:02:09] Trustee Fast: And I wonder if we might want to condense them down to just being resolution only minutes, which I prefer as a board member in terms of finding things later.

[0:02:26] Trustee Fast: So that that would be my comment. I'm not going to do any moving or anything. I'll leave it up to staff to figure out whether you want to take any changes or not.

[0:02:39] Voice 6: Thank you, Trustee Stamford. We'll have a look at that for sure.

[0:02:43] Trustee Stamford: Yeah, yeah. As a former minute taker, I actually really appreciate the extra detail because

[0:02:49] Trustee Stamford: then I know I'm reminded what happened, but I do recognize the importance of keeping them as

[0:02:57] Trustee Stamford: condensed as possible. And so anyways, we can talk about that later. It's good to acknowledge

[0:03:03] Trustee Stamford: that though so if there's no other um changes or addition to those meeting minutes i'd like to

[0:03:10] Trustee Stamford: approve those by consensus and then we're going to move on to the follow-up action list

[0:03:18] Trustee Stamford: and that is page 11 um

[0:03:21] Voice 6: so chair stanford i didn't want to interrupt you

[0:03:23] Voice 6: half updates just before that i may i

[0:03:28] Trustee Stamford: said the words and then didn't go forward with it so let's

[0:03:31] Trustee Stamford: sorry about that so 1.1 staff updates to

[0:03:34] Voice 6: jump back to that yes um so this is i'm going to do

[0:03:37] Voice 6: this very quickly but i just wanted to confirm that we've had katherine martel confirmed as our

[0:03:42] Voice 6: ecosystem protection specialist um full-time so we are almost fully staffed um with a couple of

[0:03:52] Voice 6: positions still as acting roles but almost completely permanently back up to our staffing

[0:03:57] Voice 6: quotient. The other thing I wanted to note and some of you may have seen this is that we have

[0:04:03] Voice 6: posted our species at risk coordinator position and that closes on April 7th so please if you

[0:04:11] Voice 6: know anybody or if you'd like to circulate it among your networks we're very much looking to

[0:04:16] Voice 6: try and find a really fabulous person to fill that role and then the last thing I'll note is

[0:04:21] Voice 6: that we have also drafted a co-op student position job description and that should be circulated in

[0:04:28] Voice 6: the next week or so and we're looking at starting that in may and having the job run until august

[0:04:36] Voice 6: so if any of you have any contacts with folks who are in university and doing this type of work

[0:04:43] Voice 6: please definitely point them in my direction we'd love to have them on board for the summer

[0:04:47] Voice 6: great

[0:04:48] Trustee Stamford: thanks and are you going to send out that job the co-op student position the same way as

[0:04:55] Trustee Stamford: you did with the sarah position yeah

[0:04:58] Voice 6: i can do that i'm waiting for our um our admin department to

[0:05:02] Voice 6: give me final approval to circulate and we will circulate that to universities and colleges as

[0:05:08] Voice 6: well that we know have programs um similar to what we're looking for and yes if any of you can

[0:05:14] Voice 6: can circulate that through your networks. That would be great.

[0:05:17] Trustee Stamford: Super. Thank you. Okay. Sorry

[0:05:20] Trustee Stamford: about that. I'm just

[0:05:21] Trustee Stamford: barreling along here. So let's look at the follow-up action list on page 11.

[0:05:28] Trustee Stamford: All right.

[0:05:30] Voice 6: So I'm not going to talk too much about some of these items because as you know,

[0:05:34] Voice 6: we have an action or a request for decision a little later in the board

[0:05:38] Voice 6: package to talk about things to remove from the follow-up action list. But I did want to note

[0:05:46] Voice 6: that we have an action item under the November 18th meeting from 2018 going back a ways to

[0:05:55] Voice 6: make sure that regional conservation plan goals get recognized in the islands trust policy

[0:05:59] Voice 6: statement and strategic plan that's already happened with the strategic plan but as many

[0:06:04] Voice 6: of you who are trustees at trust council know the policy statement is currently being worked on and

[0:06:11] Voice 6: And we're anticipating a presentation to the board about that in May and then looking at a referral regarding that in July.

[0:06:19] Voice 6: So that is hopefully soon to be crossed off the list as well.

[0:06:24] Voice 6: Moving along to October 6th from last year, just a note about this point about removing Canada's from the ITC tagline.

[0:06:38] Voice 6: I've marked that as complete.

[0:06:39] Voice 6: We have one niggling little detail around one of our publications that we still need to update, but it's been operationalized in terms of our work plans.

[0:06:48] Voice 6: So I have marked that complete for the time being.

[0:06:53] Voice 6: Also a note about their reconciliation action plan, which is in progress.

[0:06:59] Voice 6: We are hoping to bring that to the May meeting so that it can also be shared for the executive and ITC liaison meeting in July.

[0:07:06] Voice 6: so um that will that's being worked on at the moment um november 24th is the next update um

[0:07:17] Voice 6: we have been directed to look into electronic meetings we've had some legal advice back on

[0:07:24] Voice 6: that and it is looking like we are not able to go to a fully electronic meeting um format so staff

[0:07:31] Voice 6: Staff are taking that advice at the moment and looking at how we can amend our bylaw, our meeting bylaw to accommodate as much of what the board has asked for as possible.

[0:07:44] Voice 6: And we'll try and bring that back. It's not, although it's kind of pressing because as COVID comes to an end, we'll not be able to have these electronic meetings in the same way.

[0:07:55] Voice 6: it's not absolutely top of the list right now so I'm not sure if it'll come back to you in May or

[0:08:01] Voice 6: July but just to note that we are not going to be able to continue these types of meetings

[0:08:07] Voice 6: indefinitely under current legislation and regulations. Can

[0:08:13] Trustee Stamford: I just make a comment about

[0:08:15] Trustee Stamford: that have you heard through the trust staff if there's any impetus to try and

[0:08:22] Trustee Stamford: and get that changed on a provincial level,

[0:08:28] Trustee Stamford: maybe trustee fast, you might've heard something

[0:08:30] Trustee Stamford: that you may be through UBCM,

[0:08:33] Trustee Stamford: or I know that's of interest to our regional district

[0:08:37] Trustee Stamford: that this is just working so well

[0:08:40] Trustee Stamford: that they would like to have more flexibility

[0:08:44] Trustee Stamford: to be able to do this.

[0:08:45] Trustee Stamford: And certainly for our board,

[0:08:48] Trustee Stamford: board because of our mandate and being a conservancy i think being able to lower our

[0:08:54] Trustee Stamford: greenhouse gas um emissions is a very important aspect of this so

[0:09:00] Trustee Fast: go

[0:09:03] Trustee Stamford: ahead trustee fast yeah i

[0:09:05] Trustee Fast: think the um i think there's interest and uh as i remember at our last ec meeting last week we did

[0:09:12] Trustee Fast: uh bring it up and i mentioned the idea i'd like to keep going with some of these zoom

[0:09:18] Trustee Fast: advantages and uh some of the local trust committees as well are having people write in

[0:09:24] Trustee Fast: um from hornby and denman for example saying uh we can come to meetings now this is great

[0:09:31] Trustee Fast: uh keep keep it if you can however i haven't heard about uh changes at the provincial level yet

[0:09:38] Trustee Fast: in terms of the legislation and um uh but i expect that things might change

[0:09:47] Trustee Fast: especially as it carries on and uh my question is uh kate louise or kate emmings are we um

[0:09:54] Trustee Fast: you you mentioned current uh regulations and i'm wondering are we governed by the local

[0:10:01] Trustee Fast: government act or as a islands trust conservancy is that what we're under

[0:10:05] Voice 6: yes um that and the

[0:10:08] Voice 6: community charter some portions of them um and our all of our meetings are guided in the same

[0:10:14] Voice 6: way as trust council executive committee the local trust committee is okay thank

[0:10:18] Trustee Fast: you as long

[0:10:19] Trustee Fast: as i know it's the same it's

[0:10:20] Voice 6: the same legal advice yeah um because

[0:10:24] Trustee Fast: because we're a conservancy and a

[0:10:27] Trustee Fast: charity i thought it might be a little different or there might be some different rules and um but

[0:10:32] Trustee Fast: yeah we're

[0:10:34] Voice 6: not technically a charity we're what's called a qualified donee because of our

[0:10:38] Voice 6: government status so we are very much we're kind of a pseudo organization but we're governed

[0:10:44] Voice 6: by the provincial legislation thank

[0:10:46] Trustee Fast: you great i'm not always up on the technical terms but thank you

[0:10:51] Voice 6: it's not the most clear thing in the world um okay uh electronic meetings and then the last

[0:10:58] Voice 6: thing i'll note and then i'm happy to take questions is that we have signed a bunch of

[0:11:02] Voice 6: paperwork related to the impact gics and um though that's slow moving it is moving along

[0:11:08] Voice 6: long and we're hoping to allocate the funding into those in the next month or two and then i'm happy

[0:11:17] Voice 6: to take questions okay

[0:11:18] Trustee Fast: trustee fast um just a quick question um offsets oh no that was a different

[0:11:28] Trustee Fast: meeting never mind thank you is

[0:11:33] Trustee Stamford: there any other questions about the follow-up action list

[0:11:38] Trustee Stamford: seeing none um let's move forward to our business items and the first one here is on page 18

[0:11:46] Trustee Stamford: and it's a request for decision on the NAPTEP fee waiver request.

[0:11:52] Voice 6: So I will take this one. It's very

[0:11:55] Voice 6: much linked to the next board item, which is the request for

[0:11:59] Voice 6: approval of a NAPTEP covenant application. But seeing as the decision here from the board may

[0:12:08] Voice 6: impact a little bit the resolutions coming out of the next item, we thought we would put this

[0:12:12] Voice 6: on the agenda first. Essentially, there's two things to note here. Well, first of all,

[0:12:19] Voice 6: we've received a request from Lisa Bale and Peter Perret, who've put in a NAPTEP application.

[0:12:25] Voice 6: They've requested that the board waive the fees associated with NAPTEP.

[0:12:30] Voice 6: And the two issues that have emerged, of course, are, well, A, the Islands Trust Conservancy Board

[0:12:36] Voice 6: board has a policy that allows landowners to request this, but the Trust Council, which is

[0:12:45] Voice 6: essentially the parent of the NAPTEP program, does not have a similar policy or a mechanism for

[0:12:52] Voice 6: allowing for fee waivers. So in investigating this, staff have identified a couple of ways to

[0:13:01] Voice 6: proceed. The first is if the board is interested in funding the request for a fee waiver they can

[0:13:09] Voice 6: do that through their regular budget items and so staff have actually suggested that the board

[0:13:15] Voice 6: approve the payment of the $450 worth of fees and allocate that to our current securement budget

[0:13:23] Voice 6: it for 2021 and 22. But coming from this, it's illuminating a policy gap, I suppose. And so if

[0:13:38] Voice 6: the board is interested in continuing to allow for these types of waivers, staff are recommending

[0:13:45] Voice 6: that we approach the executive committee and trust council to try and close that policy gap.

[0:13:50] Voice 6: just as way of background there are mechanisms in place for local trust committees that provide

[0:14:00] Voice 6: guidance on ways to waive rezoning application fees and development application fees and those

[0:14:07] Voice 6: relate especially to non-profits that are looking at doing rezoning processes and things like that

[0:14:12] Voice 6: there's a process that allows for LTCs to request that executive committees sponsor those

[0:14:17] Voice 6: those applications. And so what staff would see is something comparable, but for NAPTEP fees where

[0:14:23] Voice 6: perhaps the executive committee is asked whether they are willing to waive those fees.

[0:14:31] Voice 6: So I'm just looking to see if there's any other bits that I should elaborate. I suppose it's

[0:14:38] Voice 6: important to note the fees are $450. They come in two increments, the first phase of $275 and a

[0:14:45] Voice 6: second phase of 175. And so this would be a $450 removal from our securement budget. I think we can

[0:14:53] Voice 6: handle that in this coming fiscal year. If we had a lot of requests for this, it would become more

[0:14:59] Voice 6: of an issue. And so that may be the reason to look at closing that policy gap. One note about that I

[0:15:08] Voice 6: did put in around First Nations consideration is that in contemplating sponsorship of fees,

[0:15:14] Voice 6: the ITC board and trust council may want to contemplate prioritizing protection of

[0:15:19] Voice 6: archaeological sites as part of that if we get to a point where we're having to choose

[0:15:23] Voice 6: between waiving some fees and not others so I have noted that as a possibility

[0:15:31] Voice 6: and then the only other thing I'll note is that we've recommended approval of payment of $450

[0:15:38] Voice 6: to cover those fees and also that the ITC board request trust council develop policy guidance

[0:15:45] Voice 6: for sponsorship of natural area protection tax exemption program applications and I'm happy to

[0:15:52] Voice 6: take questions or comments any

[0:15:55] Trustee Stamford: questions trustees go ahead trustee fast um

[0:16:02] Trustee Fast: Kate did you say this is

[0:16:04] Trustee Fast: the first time this has come up it

[0:16:06] Voice 6: is we have it's interesting because I've had conversations

[0:16:08] Voice 6: stations with landowners before uh where we've brought it up um but no one has ever pursued it

[0:16:14] Voice 6: um i should note that uh lisa bale and peter peret were actually the donors of our most recent nature

[0:16:22] Voice 6: reserve acquisition so i think what's happening is they're they're trying to do a lot of donations

[0:16:27] Voice 6: and they're starting to feel the pinch of all of the the costs of doing that so it's not just the

[0:16:32] Voice 6: a 400 fee for this is that they've also um had legal fees and other pieces uh with other donations

[0:16:39] Voice 6: that they've been working on yeah

[0:16:41] Trustee Fast: yeah no thank you i just wondered how often this uh kind of

[0:16:46] Trustee Fast: thing would come up and i know i've seen their name a number of places it's good i'd like to

[0:16:52] Trustee Fast: encourage donors who are uh doing bulk donations or you know who are any donor um if there's a way

[0:17:02] Trustee Fast: and maybe we can add this later if we think about it to the, never mind, I'll bring it up later in

[0:17:11] Trustee Fast: the meeting.

[0:17:13] Trustee Stamford: Any other comments from trustees? Go ahead, Trustee Fenton.

[0:17:18] Trustee Fenton: Claire, I just could

[0:17:21] Trustee Fenton: actually figure out the sort of the policy gap between the two. So we try to set it up so the

[0:17:27] Trustee Fenton: Trust Council can't put us in this position or that they just arbitrarily or can just make that

[0:17:34] Trustee Fenton: decision on our behalf and then we have to implement or how does that sorry i probably

[0:17:40] Voice 6: should have clarified this a bit essentially the naptep fees are guided by a bylaw um that

[0:17:46] Voice 6: implements those fees and that bylaw is actually held by trust council and so in order to um affect

[0:17:54] Voice 6: the forgiveness of those fees we either need to insert something into their bylaw or we need to

[0:17:59] Voice 6: to figure out a mechanism where those fees get sponsored.

[0:18:02] Voice 6: And the way that's done at the local trust committee level

[0:18:06] Voice 6: is the bylaw says there are a set of fees

[0:18:09] Voice 6: for applicants to pay for rezoning,

[0:18:12] Voice 6: but executive committee under guidelines

[0:18:16] Voice 6: can sponsor certain applications.

[0:18:20] Voice 6: And so I suspect it will look something comparable to that,

[0:18:24] Voice 6: although we haven't looked into it as staff yet.

[0:18:27] Voice 6: and

[0:18:29] Trustee Fenton: so just trying to figure out what sort of the downside to unstressed as far as budgets and

[0:18:33] Trustee Fenton: monies etc somebody else or another party making decisions around the table on our behalf

[0:18:40] Trustee Fenton: i mean

[0:18:42] Voice 6: essentially those fees are meant to offset staff time that's allocated to these applications

[0:18:48] Voice 6: yeah um

[0:18:49] Voice 6: so there is an implication that you know we aren't receiving that income um so that taxation

[0:18:56] Voice 6: then gets passed on to other landowners yeah so

[0:19:04] Trustee Stamford: if i don't see any other comments about this can

[0:19:08] Trustee Stamford: i get someone to volunteer and put the recommendation on the floor go ahead trustee fast

[0:19:16] Trustee Stamford: sure

[0:19:18] Trustee Fast: i'll put it um that the i'll move that the itc board approved payment of up to 450 dollars

[0:19:24] Trustee Fast: from its conservation planning and land securement budget to cover nat tech fees for the

[0:19:29] Trustee Fast: the Bail Pare Naptap Application NAP 2021.1.

[0:19:37] Trustee Stamford: Do I have a seconder?

[0:19:39] Trustee Stamford: Go ahead, Trustee Adams is our seconder.

[0:19:43] Trustee Stamford: Is there any other comments, questions?

[0:19:48] Trustee Stamford: Not seeing anything.

[0:19:52] Trustee Stamford: I'll call the vote.

[0:19:53] Trustee Stamford: All those in favor?

[0:19:56] Trustee Stamford: So I can't see myself.

[0:19:58] Trustee Stamford: I'm assuming you can see me.

[0:19:59] Trustee Stamford: yes your hands up that's what i wanted to see so that passes unanimously thank you

[0:20:07] Trustee Stamford: and uh the next motion trustee adams do you want to take this one

[0:20:12] Voice 11: sure um i move that the itc board

[0:20:16] Voice 11: requests that trust council develop policy guidance for sponsorship of natural air protection

[0:20:21] Voice 11: tax exemption program applications a seconder go

[0:20:27] Trustee Stamford: ahead trustee fenton will second this one

[0:20:29] Trustee Stamford: and uh any other comments on this motion oh go ahead trustee fast just

[0:20:38] Trustee Fast: that we i'm in support

[0:20:39] Trustee Fast: of this and um and uh i want to just ask um a question could this bylaw instead of living with

[0:20:50] Trustee Fast: trust council could it live with islands trust conservancy i guess not if

[0:21:00] Voice 6: they pass the answer

[0:21:01] Voice 6: is no because NAPTEP is actually a program of trust council which they they have policy that

[0:21:07] Voice 6: we would hold the covenant and process the application

[0:21:10] Voice 6: but essentially it's still there

[0:21:12] Voice 6: okay

[0:21:12] Trustee Fast: I'm just remembering and uh and uh when we get down to the um 5.2.1 maybe we could talk about

[0:21:20] Trustee Fast: it with executive committee um there okay so that's all my comments I'm in support

[0:21:26] Trustee Stamford: okay um

[0:21:28] Trustee Stamford: I'm seeing no other hands up. I'd like to call the vote. All those in favor? And that passes

[0:21:39] Trustee Stamford: unanimously. Thank you very much. So we'll bring, we'll go on to the next item. That's 5.1.2,

[0:21:47] Trustee Stamford: page 21. And this is also the Pare bail application. And there's a recommendation here.

[0:21:54] Trustee Stamford: And I'm assuming Manager Emmings will be going through this with us.

[0:22:00] Voice 6: I'm actually going to pass this over to our new permanent staff.

[0:22:04] Trustee Stamford: Great, yes, there we are.

[0:22:05] Voice 6: It's our ecosystem protection specialist, and let her run through this.

[0:22:09] Voice 6: But I'm happy to take questions as well as we go through.

[0:22:14] Voice 7: So good morning, everyone, first of all.

[0:22:17] Voice 7: So Peter Perrine and Elizabeth Bale, who you might recognize from the Bale Nature Reserve,

[0:22:22] Voice 7: have applied for a NAPTEP covenant on, it's a combination property,

[0:22:27] Voice 7: So a small lot where which they've owned for 30 years, the sort of arrow shaped one on the right there where they have built their home and have in on the eastern side of it, there's a wetland complex and some which were forest.

[0:22:47] Voice 7: And they recently purchased the larger property to the west of theirs. And what they would like to do is combine that undeveloped lot and the undeveloped portion of their residential lot and put a NAPTEP covenant on those to protect both the mature forest, well, all of the forest components of the undeveloped one and the

[0:23:09] Voice 7: wetland complex that sort of runs between the two of them.

[0:23:12] Voice 7: I think, based on our analysis, from an ecological perspective, this is an obvious candidate for the NAPTEP program, and staff recommends that we proceed with it.

[0:23:23] Voice 7: There are some complications around navigating how the pieces would be connected, and there is a public trail that runs through.

[0:23:32] Voice 7: and so it becomes a little bit more complicated in the negotiation but we're we're confident that

[0:23:38] Voice 7: we can work work our way through that to end up with with a good solution for this property um

[0:23:45] Voice 7: there are red-lifted ecosystems there i had a lovely day tromping around um i think i think

[0:23:51] Voice 7: lisa bale uh would like to protect everything on north fender this is the next step in her journey

[0:23:58] Voice 7: I don't know what else is important to share with you you've seen the report I tried my best

[0:24:04] Voice 7: to explain all of the nuances of the trail I do think one key piece of information perhaps

[0:24:11] Voice 7: for the board in in looking at this connection here is is the there's a cairn on the property

[0:24:20] Voice 7: that links to a trail to clam bay road the trail itself is on a neighbor's property but the cairn

[0:24:27] Voice 7: is on the subject property of this application and there's a crd surveyed covenant on that

[0:24:37] Voice 7: to enable public access and maintenance of the cairn the rest of the trail through the subject

[0:24:42] Voice 7: property is simply by informal arrangements it's not it is has

[0:24:47] Voice 7: been surveyed but there's no

[0:24:49] Voice 7: permanent agreement allowing that public access on there but i think there are there are some

[0:24:53] Voice 7: risks that the board should be aware of having those public access trails available and in fact

[0:24:59] Voice 7: we did see walkers when we were there it's used by locals the wetland itself the eastern portion

[0:25:08] Voice 7: it's a dug pond that then feeds into a more natural complex of wetlands and there are some

[0:25:14] Voice 7: birch forests mature forest on the undeveloped property to the west there are some beautiful

[0:25:19] Voice 7: We lost the picture there, but some beautiful large veteran Douglas fir and Arbutus trees.

[0:25:27] Voice 7: My vision

[0:25:28] Voice 7: of this Arbutus tree was actually that you should put one of those hammock swing

[0:25:31] Voice 7: seats there, because there's a cliff underneath it and you get a lovely view out across.

[0:25:38] Voice 7: And I guess that's it.

[0:25:43] Trustee Stamford: Any questions of clarification from trustees?

[0:25:50] Trustee Stamford: Go ahead, Trustee Fenton.

[0:25:57] Trustee Fenton: Just nicely laid out report.

[0:25:59] Trustee Fenton: Thank you very much for that, Catherine.

[0:26:01] Trustee Fenton: It's easy to read.

[0:26:04] Trustee Fenton: The piece that I'm just questioning

[0:26:06] Trustee Fenton: and sort of would apply to this or others

[0:26:10] Trustee Fenton: in looking at the criteria for it

[0:26:12] Trustee Fenton: is people in need and or highly valued properties.

[0:26:19] Trustee Fenton: And so you're looking at,

[0:26:22] Trustee Fenton: do you have to have both?

[0:26:24] Trustee Fenton: How is that done, or are these just relative qualifications

[0:26:29] Trustee Fenton: for the application, to qualify for the application?

[0:26:35] Voice 8: I'm sorry, Trustee Benton, could you ask me again?

[0:26:40] Voice 8: I didn't quite catch the question.

[0:26:42] Trustee Fenton: I'm just looking at the qualification for the granting

[0:26:46] Trustee Fenton: and what the criteria is for the applicants with respect.

[0:26:52] Trustee Fenton: So it's financial need and highly valued property, correct?

[0:26:58] Voice 7: In this particular case, it's the value of the property

[0:27:02] Voice 7: or like the ecosystem value of the property for protecting it.

[0:27:06] Voice 7: Are you talking about incentives for entering the NAPTEP program?

[0:27:10] Trustee Fenton: No, it's for the, this is for the, I'm just confusing myself.

[0:27:16] Trustee Fenton: Oh, I see.

[0:27:17] Trustee Fenton: This is the application itself per se versus the grant or I know these are.

[0:27:21] Voice 7: Oh, I see.

[0:27:21] Voice 7: Yes, you're thinking of the grant.

[0:27:23] Voice 7: Yeah, you're right. It is. The grant relates to the financial need or to pursue with the project.

[0:27:32] Voice 6: Yeah, I should probably interject here that we do have another item in the in-camera session related to applications.

[0:27:41] Voice 6: So this is actually just the the proposal to place a covenant on the land through the program and a request to the board to make a decision on that.

[0:27:51] Voice 7: I'm amused that after your comment about how nicely laid out the report was, we still got into that.

[0:27:58] Voice 7: There are multiple pieces related to this application.

[0:28:01] Trustee Fenton: Yes, I know. It's good though. Lots and lots of good

[0:28:04] Trustee Fenton: information. Thank you.

[0:28:06] Trustee Fast: Go ahead, Trustee Fast.

[0:28:08] Trustee Fast: Yeah, first of all, if you could bring up the aerial photo with the trail marked on it on the screen.

[0:28:14] Trustee Fast: Can you point to the cairn? I see a lot of red dots.

[0:28:18] Trustee Fast: oh

[0:28:18] Voice 7: yes so sorry at the top of that yes where

[0:28:21] Trustee Fast: the little hand okay just confirming that thank you

[0:28:23] Trustee Fast: and then um i just wanted to say uh ask really about the um trail to formalize that into the

[0:28:33] Trustee Fast: covenant um i think personally would be a good idea uh because then you can say look here's the

[0:28:39] Trustee Fast: designated trail in case other people are cutting through because just looking at the map i'm going

[0:28:44] Trustee Fast: oh i can see why people would want to cut across and why a trail would be useful and um i um

[0:28:55] Trustee Fast: i think there's lots of funds nowadays for helping with um alternative transportation

[0:29:00] Trustee Fast: and that kind of thing maybe there's something there that uh in well it's not really a project

[0:29:07] Trustee Fast: but anyway perhaps there's funding out there but but these kinds of i think it's only more

[0:29:12] Trustee Fast: that we're going to see requests for trails and bicycle paths and things like that and I think it

[0:29:18] Trustee Fast: would be a good idea to formalize that so would that happen through the covenant process or do

[0:29:23] Trustee Fast: you propose to keep it sort of unofficial what's the what's the proposal Kate

[0:29:31] Voice 8: you can speak to

[0:29:32] Voice 8: this too I

[0:29:32] Voice 7: think that in terms of how the covenant would be worded and phrased I think we would want

[0:29:39] Voice 7: want to have it separate. So that area has been surveyed out like the trail runs through

[0:29:45] Voice 7: what the proposed covenant area, but the trail itself, it has been surveyed. I think we would

[0:29:49] Voice 7: want to leave it not formalized into the covenant and have it separate because that would give us

[0:29:54] Voice 7: more control over how it's run. But Kate might have more insight into that.

[0:30:00] Voice 6: I mean, some of it is dependent on what the landowners want, whether they want to formalize

[0:30:06] Voice 6: it in a more formal way. It would potentially add clarity to have something like a statutory

[0:30:13] Voice 6: right-of-way that would allow for that trail. If that were to happen, it would be ideal if it

[0:30:20] Voice 6: was registered in priority of the covenant. And in some ways that provides some clarity. So staff

[0:30:25] Voice 6: may elect to either go that route or recommend that route when it comes back to the board for

[0:30:30] Voice 6: approval or may look at whether it makes sense to put something into the covenant that says that we

[0:30:36] Voice 6: would consider entering into that at a future date should the future landowner want to do that

[0:30:42] Voice 6: so that's a possibility right now we haven't had an indication from the landowner that they

[0:30:48] Voice 6: want to formalize it at this stage um and until that happens we can still recognize it in the

[0:30:55] Voice 6: covenant and allow it through language in the um the way the covenant is written good

[0:31:00] Trustee Fast: it's it's i

[0:31:02] Trustee Fast: read i recognize that you know trail use is not always compatible with uh conservation however

[0:31:08] Trustee Fast: sometimes it is it really helps people appreciate the value and the beauty and and um feel connected

[0:31:16] Trustee Fast: to the properties and build those stewardship feelings all that stuff and I um uh and I

[0:31:24] Trustee Fast: recognize the value of saying oh here's the official trail so we're keeping this part

[0:31:28] Trustee Fast: over here it's just if everything is vague um we're seeing with COVID more trails in protected

[0:31:37] Trustee Fast: areas and uh so I just wanted to put that out there um for staff to consider

[0:31:43] Voice 11: thank

[0:31:45] Trustee Fast: you but

[0:31:46] Trustee Fast: but otherwise I'm in favor of this, this is great.

[0:31:50] Trustee Stamford: Any comments, trustee Adams, you're

[0:31:53] Voice 11: comfortable?

[0:31:55] Voice 11: Couldn't, no.

[0:31:57] Voice 11: Okay.

[0:31:57] Voice 11: Looks great, thanks for the report.

[0:31:59] Voice 11: I don't want to take up time with other comments, thanks.

[0:32:04] Trustee Stamford: I just have a, I wasn't sure if I saw it or not

[0:32:07] Trustee Stamford: that I understand Clambe Road is undeveloped.

[0:32:10] Trustee Stamford: I can see the trail going to Clambe Road.

[0:32:14] Trustee Stamford: Is there a trail along Clambe Road

[0:32:17] Trustee Stamford: to the other to the lisa vale uh land reserve wait i mean clam bay road is an

[0:32:22] Voice 7: actual paved

[0:32:23] Voice 7: happy road oh is it yeah i thought

[0:32:27] Trustee Stamford: it was undeveloped

[0:32:27] Voice 7: there it just doesn't look it

[0:32:29] Voice 7: because of all the trees oh

[0:32:31] Trustee Stamford: i thought it said somewhere in the report that was undeveloped

[0:32:39] Voice 7: um okay i'll i'll have the wrong spot it's undeveloped property on clam

[0:32:44] Trustee Stamford: bay road perhaps

[0:32:44] Trustee Stamford: that okay I'll check again unfortunately I can't read my package notes due to technology but anyway

[0:32:52] Trustee Stamford: I don't want to dig too deeply into that um if there's no other comments can I get oh um something

[0:32:59] Trustee Stamford: quick trustee fast I

[0:33:01] Trustee Fast: was just going to make the motion great

[0:33:03] Trustee Stamford: thank you um

[0:33:04] Trustee Fast: I move that the

[0:33:05] Trustee Fast: Islands Trust Conservancy Board approve the conservation proposals submitted by Peter

[0:33:09] Trustee Fast: your Priory and Lisa Bale to place a conservation covenant on approximately 3.7 hectares of North

[0:33:14] Trustee Fast: Pender Island, 3209 Armadale Road, PID 029-414-890 and 3210 Clambay Road, PID 000-543-527

[0:33:30] Trustee Fast: and that the Islands Trust Conservancy Board, or do you want to do them separate?

[0:33:34] Trustee Fast: let's

[0:33:35] Trustee Stamford: do them separately uh a seconder uh trustee adams um no other questions all those in favor

[0:33:46] Trustee Stamford: hands up and that passes unanimously and uh the second motion please i'll

[0:33:55] Trustee Fast: go ahead that the adams

[0:33:56] Trustee Fast: trust conservancy board pay registration costs for the pare bail covenant and

[0:34:03] Trustee Stamford: seconder trustee

[0:34:05] Trustee Stamford: Fenton there's going to be a pattern here because it's faster um any other questions

[0:34:12] Trustee Stamford: seeing none all those in favor and that passes unanimously thank you okay um and let's move on

[0:34:24] Trustee Stamford: to 5.13 page 41 um it's the this was a request that came through in our last meeting about some

[0:34:33] Trustee Stamford: of the items that have been sitting there a long time and whether or not it's worth pulling them

[0:34:37] Trustee Stamford: off for now. And here's what the recommendation is from the staff. So

[0:34:46] Voice 6: I think this is a fairly

[0:34:47] Voice 6: straightforward RFD. The activities that are recommended there are in the recommendation

[0:34:57] Voice 6: are the ones that we're suggesting pulling off. We've provided a reason for the removal

[0:35:02] Voice 6: on pages 40 and 41 and 42. Maybe I'll try and put that up a little bit more easily.

[0:35:10] Voice 6: and I guess the only thing I will note is that the one around training options I have to apologize

[0:35:15] Voice 6: that I have not fitted into our agenda to get this into into the board before the 31st I haven't been

[0:35:21] Voice 6: able to coordinate some board training having said that we're hoping with our with Carla Funk

[0:35:29] Voice 6: on staff that we would do some training around fund development in an upcoming meeting so that's

[0:35:34] Voice 6: one thing on the agenda that the board had requested and then the rest of them

[0:35:39] Voice 6: will hopefully work theirs their way through the training possibilities in

[0:35:43] Voice 6: the next fiscal year thank

[0:35:46] Trustee Stamford: you any comments from trustees about the the

[0:35:50] Trustee Stamford: recommendations go ahead trustee

[0:35:54] Trustee Stamford: fast just

[0:35:56] Trustee Fast: briefly on page 41 the the one

[0:35:58] Trustee Fast: about using the the LTC's and Bowen Island municipality using the regional

[0:36:05] Trustee Fast: conservation plan um i think that's uh i'm sad to see it go but i can see why it's not the right

[0:36:12] Trustee Fast: time for it with the policy statement review update uh happening and all the uh various other

[0:36:19] Trustee Fast: good work that's going on and uh so we'll just bring it back another time when it's more uh

[0:36:26] Trustee Fast: timely otherwise i'm in support of these updates okay

[0:36:31] Trustee Stamford: and yeah i i have feelings for

[0:36:37] Trustee Stamford: crown land acquisition initiatives for obvious reasons and and i just want to make sure there's

[0:36:44] Trustee Stamford: a mechanism for bringing these back on or that there's different ways to have these approached

[0:36:49] Trustee Stamford: within different projects so totally understand with the the level of work that staff are

[0:36:56] Trustee Stamford: are having to handle right now it certainly makes sense to to move these off and make our

[0:37:04] Trustee Stamford: our fuel list a little more consistent and concise um seeing no other questions can i get someone to

[0:37:15] Trustee Stamford: read the motion um trustee adams would you mind volunteering uh

[0:37:22] Voice 11: no i don't mind and um

[0:37:23] Voice 11: yeah thanks for doing this i i think i was maybe the one who suggested yes

[0:37:29] Voice 11: um anyway and i i appreciate that and we can always bring these back by just passing

[0:37:34] Voice 11: another resolution in future right so anyway um do i do i need to read this all out

[0:37:42] Voice 11: can we just say as as below yeah or as indicated yeah okay so i'm going to move that staff uh

[0:37:51] Voice 11: remove the following items from the follow-up action list as indicated in the request for

[0:37:59] Voice 11: decision dated uh march well request for a decision item number whatever it is how's that

[0:38:11] Voice 11: up

[0:38:11] Trustee Stamford: I'm comfortable with that our um trustees because um we can get the the background

[0:38:18] Trustee Stamford: information easily Coraline you understand um what was just stated for the motion yes I have

[0:38:26] Trustee Stamford: that thank you yeah um okay and a seconder was trustee fast I think she put her hand up for that

[0:38:32] Trustee Stamford: um and if there's no other comments or questions i'll call the motion all those in favor

[0:38:42] Trustee Stamford: and there it goes nice clean fuel list that was easy i'll slightly cleaner

[0:38:50] Voice 11: and we're gonna add a bunch more things to it right oh i'm sure

[0:38:55] Trustee Stamford: okay and our next request for decision is on page 44 could you uh expand the view just a little bit

[0:39:03] Trustee Stamford: it Kate um and we have a recommend a report on property management fund guidelines

[0:39:13] Trustee Stamford: who's taking this

[0:39:15] Voice 6: that's a me again um okay so um at uh I'm trying to think when this actually

[0:39:26] Voice 6: came to the board I think it was last summer actually the board passed a resolution that

[0:39:31] Voice 6: that directed staff to contribute $12,000

[0:39:35] Voice 6: to a property management fund.

[0:39:39] Voice 6: These were the, this was the contribution

[0:39:41] Voice 6: that we received as part of the Sandy Beach rezoning

[0:39:45] Voice 6: that happened over on Keats Island.

[0:39:50] Voice 6: And so as such, usually when we have a set of funds,

[0:39:53] Voice 6: we have guidelines that go along with them

[0:39:56] Voice 6: that guide their use and how funds are received into them.

[0:40:01] Voice 6: Staff have drafted a set of guidelines to that effect. These will help to provide clarity for anyone who might want to donate to the property management fund. They'll also provide clarity for those development-related applications as to where the monies will go when we get contributions through those processes.

[0:40:22] Voice 6: In terms of implementation, we will start to add these to our list of funds that are available to receive donations and will operationalize the receipt of those funds.

[0:40:38] Voice 6: And I think we're going to be moving those into that impact GIC that's on the follow-up action list to try and maximize the return on them.

[0:40:46] Voice 6: um the intent i'll just move directly into the actual um suggested guidelines um

[0:40:54] Voice 6: first of all uh the intent is to try to channel uh donations for property management as well as

[0:41:01] Voice 6: contributions for property management into a generalized fund itc does hold a couple of very

[0:41:07] Voice 6: specific funds one for the ruby alton nature reserve on salt spring and one for the mcfadden

[0:41:13] Voice 6: Nature Sanctuary on Salt Spring. And these are really nice in terms of being able to support

[0:41:18] Voice 6: those particular properties. But what we find is when you have money set aside for a particular

[0:41:24] Voice 6: property, they often sit there for a long period of time and especially if there isn't a need for

[0:41:30] Voice 6: their use. And allowing us to have a property management fund that is generalized and can

[0:41:35] Voice 6: provide support for any properties that we manage is very helpful. I should note that we have a

[0:41:42] Voice 6: comparable fund that has already been set up our covenant management and defense fund that is

[0:41:46] Voice 6: available for covenants and that one is intended to both manage covenants in perpetuity but also

[0:41:52] Voice 6: deal with legal fees um if we ever have to defend one um the use of that we're proposing for the

[0:42:00] Voice 6: property management fund uh they're all here but essentially to run through them it's of course the

[0:42:05] Voice 6: the maintenance of the natural features on the land the pieces that we are actually protecting

[0:42:09] Voice 6: through restoration of habitats as necessary,

[0:42:14] Voice 6: but also through management of recreational features

[0:42:16] Voice 6: if those are on the land.

[0:42:19] Voice 6: We're also suggesting funds would be used for signage,

[0:42:21] Voice 6: risk mitigation if we need to mitigate

[0:42:24] Voice 6: any danger features on the lands,

[0:42:27] Voice 6: legal services and arbitration processes

[0:42:30] Voice 6: and anything related to dealing with things like trespass

[0:42:33] Voice 6: if that happens on the lands.

[0:42:35] Voice 6: And then also reports and guidance

[0:42:37] Voice 6: related to management of archaeological and biological features as well, including things

[0:42:44] Voice 6: like bringing First Nations cultural knowledge holders onto the land. So at the moment, the

[0:42:50] Voice 6: board does have a property management budget that it receives from Trust Council. So these funds

[0:42:55] Voice 6: that we are looking at putting into a property management fund would likely be used to either

[0:43:01] Voice 6: either accentuate that regular budget item or deal with any costs that are unanticipated or that are

[0:43:08] Voice 6: large in nature that are not part of a regular property management program. There is a note that

[0:43:17] Voice 6: we will not use the property management funds for costs associated with land acquisition. We do have

[0:43:22] Voice 6: acquisition funds for some islands that are available for that and could conceivably start

[0:43:28] Voice 6: up a fund to do general acquisition programs in the future if we received a donation to that effect.

[0:43:38] Voice 6: Trying to think if there's anything else worth mentioning.

[0:43:44] Voice 6: Yeah I think the rest of the information is captured within the fund guidelines and I'm,

[0:43:51] Voice 6: but I'm happy to take any questions and I'm also happy to amend or edit these as per the

[0:43:56] Voice 6: the wishes of the board this is really this is a first draft and if this isn't meeting how you

[0:44:01] Voice 6: intended the use of the funds we're happy to look at amending them to make sure that they fall in

[0:44:06] Voice 6: line with that

[0:44:09] Trustee Stamford: any questions from the trustees trustee adams yeah

[0:44:13] Voice 11: no thank you for this i think

[0:44:15] Voice 11: uh it's pretty comprehensive the one suggestion i had or maybe it's a question uh just in terms of

[0:44:22] Voice 11: of the list on page 47 of purposes.

[0:44:31] Voice 11: The very last bullet,

[0:44:33] Voice 11: including archeological and biological reports.

[0:44:37] Voice 11: I wondered if the biological report

[0:44:40] Voice 11: should maybe be a little broader

[0:44:43] Voice 11: and maybe be like natural features or reports of,

[0:44:47] Voice 11: so it's not just biology,

[0:44:48] Voice 11: like maybe there's geology or something more than just biology so anyway i was just going to

[0:44:56] Voice 11: suggest that it be a little broader than biological reports uh

[0:45:01] Voice 6: we can certainly do that the first

[0:45:02] Voice 6: piece of that clause sort of states reports and expert guidance required to manage the land

[0:45:07] Voice 6: and i need to

[0:45:09] Voice 6: be fairly broad there and then provide some examples um yeah

[0:45:13] Voice 11: i saw those as

[0:45:14] Voice 11: examples but i just thought sometimes it's better to be really clear so do

[0:45:20] Voice 6: you have

[0:45:21] Voice 6: some suggestion

[0:45:22] Voice 6: for added wording there that we could uh

[0:45:25] Voice 11: well maybe just say including archaeological and

[0:45:33] Voice 11: natural feature reports yeah

[0:45:43] Trustee Fast: i support that that would capture the mineral seep that the wildlife

[0:45:48] Trustee Fast: life need or or the sandstone features or the huge giant tree stump or whatever features yeah

[0:45:58] Trustee Fast: I

[0:46:00] Voice 11: was I was just looking at a park management plan recently actually for Burgoyne Bay and

[0:46:07] Voice 11: all of the features described were biological ones and as a someone with a background in

[0:46:15] Voice 11: in geomorphology there's these huge boulder fields that are all these natural features that

[0:46:22] Voice 11: are incredibly interesting and they're not mentioned in the management plan at all and

[0:46:27] Voice 11: it's a big feature of that property so just sort of reminded me that sometimes we get a little

[0:46:32] Voice 11: um focused on biology and there's other natural features to be considered and sometimes the

[0:46:41] Trustee Fast: biology depends on on the uh yeah yeah anyway always always it does

[0:46:51] Trustee Fenton: the um kind of go ahead first

[0:46:55] Trustee Fenton: sorry first nations look at things differently too and that's so

[0:47:00] Trustee Fenton: biology and i mean they see water and rock and all of this as part of some of the natural features so

[0:47:07] Trustee Fenton: So that's a good moment.

[0:47:13] Trustee Fast: Go ahead, Trustee Fast.

[0:47:15] Trustee Fast: I have a question about the middle bullet,

[0:47:18] Trustee Fast: the risk mitigation to ensure the safety

[0:47:21] Trustee Fast: of the public and workers.

[0:47:23] Trustee Fast: Wouldn't that be part of a normal annual budget?

[0:47:26] Trustee Fast: Sorry,

[0:47:33] Voice 6: I just muted myself.

[0:47:34] Voice 6: I thought I was unmuted.

[0:47:37] Voice 6: For the most part, that is included

[0:47:40] Voice 6: in our regular maintenance budget.

[0:47:44] Voice 6: The only time I could see it being an issue

[0:47:46] Voice 6: is if there were really large costs associated with it but um right okay yeah i mean really it

[0:47:52] Voice 6: should be part of our regular administration and maintenance budget okay

[0:47:57] Trustee Fast: i can see it if there's a

[0:47:58] Trustee Fast: part of a trail that's on a part of a hillside that's starting to slump or something

[0:48:02] Trustee Fast: anyway got it thank you go ahead trustee fenton and

[0:48:11] Trustee Fenton: uh page 47 under allocation of funds for

[0:48:15] Trustee Fenton: specific nature reserves. You've got funds obtained from or through product development

[0:48:21] Trustee Fenton: applications. Is that just, so it comes from trust council or local trusts, but people,

[0:48:28] Trustee Fenton: is that all that's inferring to, is there some other development application process?

[0:48:34] Voice 6: So under our policies related to development applications, the board is able to require a

[0:48:40] Voice 6: financial contribution when they take on a donation of land or it's not a donation a

[0:48:45] Voice 6: contribution of land um so like for the keats property we got twelve thousand dollars we

[0:48:51] Voice 6: actually have and i should note that we do have another um property working its way through our

[0:48:56] Voice 6: development application process which is crystal mountain on galliano and um and that i think we

[0:49:02] Voice 6: have a thirty five thousand dollar contribution that we've requested so um this is saying that

[0:49:07] Voice 6: all of those funds will as a as a you know a guideline um be channeled into a general property

[0:49:14] Voice 6: management fund so

[0:49:18] Trustee Fenton: the development application is specific to the actual conservancy piece that's

[0:49:23] Trustee Fenton: being developed not just the property that's building a house per se yes

[0:49:28] Voice 6: so yes so like for

[0:49:30] Voice 6: example for sandy beach the twelve thousand dollars they provided will go into a property

[0:49:34] Voice 6: management fund that funds islands trust nature reserves generally um but no it doesn't go for the

[0:49:40] Voice 6: the funding of the actual um rezoning application or anything related to that um i should note that

[0:49:47] Voice 6: i did we did draft this to say that um the board will still receive funds that are um particular

[0:49:53] Voice 6: to a particular property um provided um we can manage those and and um and track those you know

[0:50:03] Voice 6: know you know in a way from donors this is so

[0:50:11] Trustee Stamford: any other questions

[0:50:13] Trustee Fast: go ahead trustee fast so just to

[0:50:15] Trustee Fast: put a little clarification on that last point what you're

[0:50:18] Trustee Fast: saying uh kate is that this doesn't

[0:50:22] Trustee Fast: preclude people leaving a donation just for the management of one particular property or several

[0:50:28] Voice 6: that's right sorry i was not particularly clear there but this is for example if we received a

[0:50:33] Voice 6: donation of land from a donor that wasn't through a development process and they wanted to provide

[0:50:38] Voice 6: a significant enough allocation that was just to manage that property the board could still

[0:50:44] Voice 6: entertain that under these guidelines great thank you

[0:50:47] Voice 6: was

[0:50:50] Trustee Stamford: this clear the purpose of this

[0:50:52] Trustee Stamford: policy draft okay um where do we have the go ahead trustee fast you're going to do the

[0:51:01] Trustee Stamford: recommendation yep

[0:51:02] Trustee Fast: i'm on um page 44 top of page 44 that the itc board that the honest trust

[0:51:08] Trustee Fast: conservancy board approve the property management fund guidelines as drafted and request that staff

[0:51:14] Trustee Fast: refer them for review to the legislative services manager can

[0:51:18] Trustee Stamford: we say as amended we were going to put

[0:51:20] Trustee Stamford: But that adjustment for biological, not just biological,

[0:51:29] Trustee Stamford: geomorphology as well must be included in there somewhere.

[0:51:33] Trustee Fast: I think she said natural features.

[0:51:34] Trustee Stamford: Yes.

[0:51:35] Trustee Stamford: What is

[0:51:35] Trustee Stamford: geomorphology, really quick?

[0:51:39] Voice 11: It's the, oh, gosh.

[0:51:41] Voice 11: It's kind of the geological shape of the land and how

[0:51:47] Voice 3: it was created.

[0:51:49] Trustee Stamford: As amended.

[0:51:51] Trustee Stamford: Okay.

[0:51:52] Trustee Stamford: do i have a seconder go ahead it's uh trustee fenton and seeing no other questions or comments

[0:52:02] Trustee Stamford: all those in favor raise your hand great that passes yes unanimously thank you um how are we

[0:52:13] Trustee Stamford: doing does anybody need a bio break are we good uh should we take five minutes we're we're doing

[0:52:20] Trustee Stamford: fairly well for time is it okay if we take five minutes and come back thanks okay are we all

[0:59:01] Trustee Stamford: coming back so our next item here is a deferral of the regional conservation plan and that begins on

[0:59:20] Trustee Stamford: page 49 we have a recommendation here um is that something you're looking at uh manager emmings

[0:59:29] Voice 6: actually i'm hoping that catherine martell will speak to this um okay catherine are you back

[0:59:36] Voice 7: I am back. Sorry, I'm just trying to sort out my video and everything. There we go.

[0:59:41] Voice 7: Wonderful.

[0:59:43] Voice 7: Big screen. So, well, this is a sort of a short and sweet request for decision. I ultimately,

[0:59:56] Voice 7: the regional conservation plan was intent

[1:00:00] Voice 7: to be under evaluation at the moment at the end of the first three-year work plan and in discussion

[1:00:08] Voice 7: with with Kate we agreed that perhaps it would be best to defer this for a multiple variety of

[1:00:18] Voice 7: reasons not only because it will improve I think the effectiveness of the evaluation and creating

[1:00:26] Voice 7: another work plan if we defer to give more time to complete the current work plan but also because

[1:00:31] Voice 7: I haven't had time to address it yet so it's already delayed

[1:00:36] Voice 3: but

[1:00:38] Voice 7: because there's been so

[1:00:39] Voice 7: much shift in staff and we're still working on some of the key areas of the existing work plan

[1:00:45] Voice 7: was part of why we thought it might make sense to defer the evaluation and the creation of the

[1:00:49] Voice 7: next work plan and that will allow us to more fully incorporate both the new species at risk

[1:00:54] Voice 7: program and the climate action that the board would like us to work on into the next three-year

[1:01:00] Voice 7: work plan so it seems like a good a way to be more effective in the next set of planning essentially

[1:01:12] Trustee Stamford: uh trustee fast you have a question um

[1:01:15] Trustee Fast: yes i'm just generally i'm in uh support of this and

[1:01:19] Trustee Fast: it looks like a good idea to me um i noticed that you didn't mention covid and the disruption of

[1:01:26] Trustee Fast: of all the other work, including of the partner conservancies

[1:01:31] Trustee Fast: and things that go along with that.

[1:01:32] Trustee Fast: And I'm just wondering, is 2022 enough?

[1:01:36] Trustee Fast: Should we make it 2023?

[1:01:40] Trustee Fast: Before yesterday's

[1:01:41] Voice 7: new announcement, I would have said, sure,

[1:01:43] Voice 7: but now that it looks like we might be sort of heading

[1:01:46] Voice 7: into more shutdowns again, that is excellent.

[1:01:55] Voice 7: I'm concerned if we defer it too much simply because

[1:01:59] Voice 7: because of the work planning stage of I do believe that it will help us in making meaningful progress

[1:02:06] Voice 7: to really incorporate the species at risk position into the existing I mean of

[1:02:12] Voice 7: course that can happen

[1:02:12] Voice 7: without the evaluation maybe we would separate those Kate what are your thoughts um

[1:02:20] Voice 6: yeah it does

[1:02:21] Voice 6: throw a bit of a wrench into it I'm so in theory we have three three-year work plans and following

[1:02:30] Voice 6: Following each we have an evaluation, the board could, I suppose, consider doing like

[1:02:38] Voice 6: a five year, like extending the current work plan to be a five year work plan.

[1:02:44] Voice 6: Sorry, I'm thinking through this in my head but then the other piece of that is that we

[1:02:49] Voice 6: are currently working on projects related to the reconciliation action plan the climate

[1:02:55] Voice 6: climate change project, and also the species at risk program that would be nicely incorporated,

[1:03:02] Voice 6: I think, into our next year's work plan. So as I work through it in my head, I think because those

[1:03:08] Voice 6: three things, the reconciliation action plan hopefully will be complete this summer. We've

[1:03:13] Voice 6: got some information for you about the climate change project extensions, which hopefully will

[1:03:19] Voice 6: carry us through this year. And then the species at risk program with the species at risk program

[1:03:24] Voice 6: coordinator on in April. I actually think we're probably well poised to do a review of the

[1:03:31] Voice 6: existing work plan, but also more to the point and integration of those programs into the next work

[1:03:36] Voice 6: plan.

[1:03:37] Trustee Fast: Thank you. Yeah, that makes sense in terms of the bringing the threads together and winding

[1:03:42] Trustee Fast: them into the next one. Thank you. I just wanted to ask the question and, and having heard nothing

[1:03:49] Trustee Fast: about the covet i just wanted to check in okay thank you yeah

[1:03:52] Trustee Stamford: good point yeah is there any uh

[1:03:56] Trustee Stamford: other comments about this um how's everyone's comfort level with this delay

[1:04:02] Trustee Stamford: um i can't see trustee fenton there he is go ahead um

[1:04:08] Trustee Fenton: yeah just in sort of reference to the

[1:04:10] Trustee Fenton: kobe is a good observation um by trustee fast the i think it's um i think it's late well laid out

[1:04:17] Trustee Fenton: I think it's important that you don't get too far down the road, and even if you had other issues, I think this evaluation portion, even if you modified that, is an important part of the project management overall.

[1:04:32] Trustee Fenton: So to sit down and actually do that review, it drives sort of different ways of looking at things that will be important in the overall implementation of the plan.

[1:04:43] Trustee Fenton: So I think what you put out in your rationale and what you've put forward is reasonable and will benefit all involved.

[1:04:53] Trustee Fenton: Thank you.

[1:04:56] Trustee Stamford: So seeing no other hands raised, can I get Trustee Fass, can you read out the motion?

[1:05:05] Trustee Fast: It's actually going to raise one more point.

[1:05:08] Trustee Stamford: Oh, okay. Sorry.

[1:05:09] Trustee Fast: It's okay.

[1:05:10] Trustee Fast: Okay. It's just that we're also coming up to, it's not just a climate. I ran across this

[1:05:18] Trustee Fast: fascinating, I'll just put a link to an article. It's just that on the international level,

[1:05:25] Trustee Fast: the biodiversity crisis and the climate crisis and how people live sustainably, you know,

[1:05:32] Trustee Fast: sustainable development goals are sort of coming together now. So the timing might be really

[1:05:36] Trustee Fast: excellent for this and I'll just put this link in the in the chat so you know

[1:05:42] Trustee Fast: what I'm talking about this is a summary of a white paper for Nobel get-together

[1:05:47] Trustee Fast: next month anyway okay thank you I'm happy to read the recommendation great

[1:05:52] Trustee Stamford: thank you at

[1:05:53] Trustee Fast: the islands that I move that the Islands Trust Conservancy Board

[1:05:57] Trustee Fast: direct staff to one defer evaluation of the regional conservation plan 2018-2027

[1:06:03] Trustee Fast: until January 2022, two, extend the current three-year work plan, number one, until December

[1:06:11] Trustee Fast: 2021, and three, defer development of the next three-year work plan, number two, until February,

[1:06:18] Trustee Fast: March 2022.

[1:06:20] Trustee Stamford: Do I have a seconder? Okay, Trustee Adams is seconding that, and all those in favor,

[1:06:31] Trustee Stamford: our hands up and that it passes unanimously thank you okay so our next item here is 5.1.6 is uh

[1:06:45] Trustee Stamford: the bail nature reserve naming and that starts on page 53.

[1:06:50] Voice 6: uh so this is a fairly straightforward

[1:06:53] Voice 6: request for decision i'm going to take it because aaron colson who's our communications person is

[1:06:58] Voice 6: actually being pulled into a few islands trust communications matters at the moment um

[1:07:04] Voice 6: And so this is related to the the Bale Nature Reserve transfer over on North Pender.

[1:07:12] Voice 6: Lisa Bale who donated the land for our 31st Nature Reserve has requested that we

[1:07:19] Voice 6: name the property the Lisa Bale Nature Reserve. In terms of the reason why this is coming to you

[1:07:26] Voice 6: for decision is usually the board when it receives a conservation proposal will receive the request

[1:07:32] Voice 6: for the naming from the landowner at that time.

[1:07:35] Voice 6: When Lisa Bale submitted her request,

[1:07:37] Voice 6: she had actually not picked a name for the nature reserve

[1:07:40] Voice 6: and so had left it blank.

[1:07:42] Voice 6: So this is coming to you for an active decision.

[1:07:45] Voice 6: It is at the board's discretion whether or not

[1:07:48] Voice 6: they choose to name as requested by a landowner.

[1:07:53] Voice 6: So you could elect to use a different name.

[1:07:55] Voice 6: Staff aren't suggesting this in this case,

[1:07:57] Voice 6: largely because it is our pattern to,

[1:08:00] Voice 6: if the landowner doesn't name a nature reserve

[1:08:04] Voice 6: to name it after them.

[1:08:06] Voice 6: Having said that, it does also bear mentioning

[1:08:11] Voice 6: that in terms of some of the way we name things going forward

[1:08:16] Voice 6: in terms of First Nations and reconciliation implications,

[1:08:23] Voice 6: I think as the board starts to move forward,

[1:08:26] Voice 6: we may want to look at not just naming things

[1:08:30] Voice 6: with sort of an English or Western name,

[1:08:33] Voice 6: but also with a First Nations language name.

[1:08:38] Voice 6: This naming of the Lisa Bale Nature Reserve

[1:08:40] Voice 6: doesn't preclude us from doing that in the future.

[1:08:42] Voice 6: In fact, we do have other nature reserves

[1:08:44] Voice 6: where we have both the First Nations name

[1:08:46] Voice 6: and a more Westernized name as part of that practice.

[1:08:54] Voice 6: Most notably our Elder Cedar Nature Reserve

[1:08:56] Voice 6: and then also our Medicine Beach Nature Sanctuary on Pender.

[1:08:59] Voice 6: so the board could elect to do that in the future it also highlighted for me the fact that our

[1:09:05] Voice 6: policy direction on this could probably be looked at and I think as we move into doing

[1:09:11] Voice 6: some of the policy edits and changes that will come out of the reconciliation action plan

[1:09:16] Voice 6: this might be one where we might want to turn our attention but until that time staff have

[1:09:23] Voice 6: gone forward and recommended that we we proceed as we usually do and name this nature reserve

[1:09:30] Voice 6: the Lisa Vale nature reserve as per the wishes of the donor uh

[1:09:37] Trustee Stamford: trustee fast uh

[1:09:39] Trustee Fast: thank you for this

[1:09:40] Trustee Fast: I'm I'm in support I'm um I know from coming from a parks management background that uh sometimes

[1:09:48] Trustee Fast: naming parks after uh people can be an issue uh particularly when you're getting towards 50

[1:09:56] Trustee Fast: years later and people are there's other features of the park that could be um anyway i i just uh

[1:10:04] Trustee Fast: and also being on bowen where some of our names kind of uh appeared on uh nature reserves way

[1:10:15] Trustee Fast: back in the day singing woods for example beautiful name um uh but the that kind of area

[1:10:24] Trustee Fast: you uh no no actually sorry it's very thin it had a name already so those names disappear into the

[1:10:32] Trustee Fast: cardboard boxes in people's basements and the data goes with them anyway there's just different um

[1:10:40] Trustee Fast: because people later will be going well what is this uh mud bog or whatever the name used to be

[1:10:47] Trustee Fast: i can't even remember anyway i just think there's uh i i like the idea of thinking about the policy

[1:10:53] Trustee Fast: see later and i'm happy to let this go ahead now uh

[1:10:57] Trustee Stamford: any other comments from the trustees

[1:11:00] Trustee Stamford: go ahead trustee fenton i'm

[1:11:05] Trustee Fenton: speaking in favor of this i i just think the only kid our manager

[1:11:09] Trustee Fenton: uh emmings uh deserves covered it and now it's the first nations piece and how that puzzle was

[1:11:16] Trustee Fenton: actually how we were addressing the reconciliation if we were thinking about this um so that's there

[1:11:22] Trustee Fenton: and I'm sure that the people involved in this property

[1:11:29] Trustee Fenton: would be open to discussion down the road

[1:11:32] Trustee Fenton: when things come to that point.

[1:11:36] Trustee Fenton: Yeah, I'll leave it at that.

[1:11:38] Trustee Fenton: Thank you.

[1:11:40] Trustee Fast: Trustee Fast?

[1:11:42] Trustee Fast: Sorry, one second point is just that

[1:11:44] Trustee Fast: we have a new fund development policy

[1:11:45] Trustee Fast: and some times, for example,

[1:11:52] Trustee Fast: in other parks that I've worked in, there are donor policies related to naming things, whether

[1:11:59] Trustee Fast: it's a structure or a bench or, you know, a whole property. And if we're really going after big

[1:12:10] Trustee Fast: donations, that might be a policy that we might want to look at through the fund development lens

[1:12:17] Trustee Fast: as well good point yeah thank you

[1:12:20] Trustee Stamford: um so i would like to get this on the floor um uh trustee fenton

[1:12:29] Trustee Stamford: can i get you to volunteer can you read

[1:12:32] Trustee Fenton: it okay move that the uh four acre property in north

[1:12:36] Trustee Fenton: pender island uh now my apologies for the pronunciation in brackets i um i'll leave it

[1:12:44] Trustee Fenton: It has spelled out for the First Nations and most recently added to the Adams Trust Conservancy's 31st Nature Reserve PID 024-289-582 be known as Lisa Bell Nature Reserve, per the wishes of the donor.

[1:13:06] Trustee Stamford: Do I have a seconder? Trustee Adams?

[1:13:12] Trustee Stamford: items um so i just before we vote on this i just want to emphasize uh for me reading this i i'm

[1:13:22] Trustee Stamford: also in favor of it but the the naming and the reconciliation within this reconciliation policy

[1:13:29] Trustee Stamford: because we are responsible for a lot of naming um i really would like to emphasize that and bring

[1:13:37] Trustee Stamford: that forward as a priority within our reconciliation. I know it's far more complex than

[1:13:43] Trustee Stamford: than just looking at a single First Nations name. In fact, is anyone can anyone pronounce

[1:13:51] Trustee Stamford: how Pender Island is pronounced? Any suggestion? I have

[1:13:57] Trustee Fast: to look it up. I have it in here.

[1:14:00] Trustee Stamford: Okay, well, that's okay. For now. I just wondered because I'm not sure how to do an A

[1:14:04] Trustee Stamford: slash but um i just think it's really important that we follow through with this and and look at

[1:14:11] Trustee Stamford: how we're going to um manage our naming going forward so um if everyone's ready to vote oh

[1:14:18] Trustee Stamford: trustee fenton go ahead no so you're voting

[1:14:23] Trustee Fenton: so okay um

[1:14:25] Trustee Stamford: hands up ready to vote uh

[1:14:27] Trustee Fenton: i have a comment

[1:14:29] Trustee Fenton: you

[1:14:30] Trustee Stamford: have a comment yes

[1:14:31] Trustee Fenton: just oh sorry with respect to that do is it worth

[1:14:36] Trustee Fenton: bringing that to the owners or the donors attention right up front that this is the

[1:14:41] Trustee Fenton: process we're in this is where we're at as an organization in our journey and that this will

[1:14:47] Trustee Fenton: be looked at through the lens of reconciliation and they'll be brought into this discussion at

[1:14:53] Trustee Fenton: that time but you know so they're not surprised and i don't think it will be in this case with

[1:15:00] Trustee Fenton: of these people, but for others,

[1:15:02] Trustee Fenton: it may be a new part of their journey as well.

[1:15:05] Voice 6: I don't have any, I think it would be fine for staff

[1:15:08] Voice 6: to flag that for the nature reserve donors.

[1:15:11] Voice 6: We could just mention that the board has passed

[1:15:13] Voice 6: a resolution to name it the Lisa Bale Nature Reserve,

[1:15:17] Voice 6: but that many of our nature reserves

[1:15:19] Voice 6: also have indigenous names and that we're,

[1:15:22] Voice 6: the board may elect to go forward with that

[1:15:24] Voice 6: in the future as well.

[1:15:25] Voice 6: Thank you, Kim.

[1:15:29] Voice 3: okay

[1:15:30] Trustee Stamford: sorry linda you're on a different page for my on my gallery so i have to keep popping back

[1:15:35] Trustee Stamford: and forth um so if we're all ready to uh vote um all those in favor of the motion on the floor

[1:15:45] Trustee Stamford: hands up and that passes unanimously thank you very much and we'll look forward to seeing that

[1:15:55] Trustee Stamford: come back in a more general sense how we can work with that um so our next items um 5.2 items for

[1:16:05] Trustee Stamford: discussion we're looking at a briefing um this is the the joint executive committee islands trust

[1:16:13] Trustee Stamford: conservancy board liaison meeting and that starts uh page 55 are you going to introduce us kate i

[1:16:22] Trustee Stamford: I just stab and I know that it's always the wrong person, but.

[1:16:25] Voice 6: Yes, this is me.

[1:16:30] Voice 6: Although it's really the board because it's for you to have this

[1:16:33] Voice 6: conversation. But having said that, I did prepare this briefing.

[1:16:38] Voice 6: So I guess I,

[1:16:40] Voice 6: many of you already know that the ITC board meets annually with the

[1:16:44] Voice 6: executive committee under policy.

[1:16:46] Voice 6: We're required to meet at least annually with the executive committee.

[1:16:50] Voice 6: So I should note that it is possible to arrange other meetings as well if there are topics of interest that you want to continue to discuss.

[1:16:58] Voice 6: It's also contained in a bylaw related to a memorandum of understanding between the board and council.

[1:17:06] Voice 6: So in the past, the Islands Trust Conservancy has had a meeting agenda, which I've actually linked to in this briefing, that kind of has a series of discussions that the board likes to have.

[1:17:22] Voice 6: And it's usually framed around conversations that executive and ITC are having with the province of BC, Trust Council, local trust committees, First Nations and the public.

[1:17:32] Voice 6: And then within each of those areas, we tend to put bullet points of items that the board wants to discuss.

[1:17:39] Voice 6: In reviewing this, and I did have a conversation with Chair Stanford about how to make this a really effective meeting, both at providing a liaison for a number of issues, but also at advancing issues that are of particular interest to the board.

[1:17:53] Voice 6: We started to talk about the fact that this is typically a two-hour meeting, so it's not a large chunk of time.

[1:18:00] Voice 6: and the board may want to consider whether it likes that that approach of general discussions

[1:18:05] Voice 6: under each of these areas or if you would like to consider a slightly more focused conversation

[1:18:13] Voice 6: so I'm raising it for conversation at the board level what we've found as staff and I think I've

[1:18:20] Voice 6: had this conversation with a few of you is that it's really hard to have those wide-ranging

[1:18:25] Voice 6: conversations on all of those topics within a two-hour time frame. So staff in conversation

[1:18:31] Voice 6: with Chair Stamford have had some conversations about ideas about ways to frame the meeting.

[1:18:39] Voice 6: I think that the roundtable and the conversations about things that are important to board members

[1:18:46] Voice 6: and also to the executive is probably a valuable piece of the meeting. And so what we've suggested

[1:18:52] Voice 6: it is that we continue to have that through a roundtable conversation, not dissimilar to some

[1:18:58] Voice 6: of the ones that go to Trust Council. The board may want to consider selecting a topic or something

[1:19:04] Voice 6: that would focus that roundtable as is done in Trust Council, but I'll leave that to the board's

[1:19:10] Voice 6: discretion. I think it would be really valuable to do a bit of an overview of the ITC work over

[1:19:18] Voice 6: the last fiscal year and what I've kind of envisioned in talking with ITC staff is perhaps

[1:19:24] Voice 6: a slideshow that has a lot of images that might kind of demonstrate the work that we've been

[1:19:30] Voice 6: engaged in over the last year to kind of get people's to inspire people a little bit about

[1:19:36] Voice 6: what the ITC is doing and typically we do still provide an overview of Islands Trust Conservancy

[1:19:42] Voice 6: work through a series of various briefings so I think this is a way of kind of consolidating that

[1:19:46] Voice 6: that piece into one, one area. And then a thought is to move into topics of mutual interest and

[1:19:54] Voice 6: spend the bulk of the meeting kind of talking about those. And we've suggested that the board

[1:20:00] Voice 6: may want to focus in on, you know, two or three, maybe four of these, just to kind of give them

[1:20:06] Voice 6: each a fair amount of attention. So I've put before you a few of the ones that are ongoing,

[1:20:14] Voice 6: going there are two current action items um that the executive committee and trust council are

[1:20:20] Voice 6: pursuing that are relevant to the itc work um the first is this standing resolution um that the

[1:20:28] Voice 6: trust council approached the province of british columbia to request additional funding for the

[1:20:33] Voice 6: islands trust um and part of that has been a focus on islands trust conservancy funding

[1:20:38] Voice 6: so the board may want to have a big bigger conversation around the status of that and

[1:20:43] Voice 6: and the direction that that's heading in.

[1:20:45] Voice 6: And then the second piece is related

[1:20:47] Voice 6: to the strategic plan from trust council.

[1:20:50] Voice 6: And that is that there'll be a legislation amendment

[1:20:54] Voice 6: to increase the percentage

[1:20:55] Voice 6: of the natural area protection tax exemption program.

[1:20:58] Voice 6: The board may want to have a bit of an update

[1:21:00] Voice 6: from executive committee on the status of that

[1:21:03] Voice 6: and what the next steps are for that project.

[1:21:07] Voice 6: And then these bulleted items are things that came up

[1:21:11] Voice 6: among the staff as as items that we are working on that kind of overlap the species at risk program

[1:21:17] Voice 6: is one that's there because part of our program goals are to provide education and

[1:21:25] Voice 6: resources for planning areas of planning in the islands trust so mainly with the local trust

[1:21:33] Voice 6: committees but also through staff and and trustees there's the policy statement referral that is

[1:21:40] Voice 6: is going to be coming through, I think our July meeting.

[1:21:44] Voice 6: So before the executive committee meeting takes place.

[1:21:48] Voice 6: So that may be an area that you wish to talk about.

[1:21:51] Voice 6: There are of course the climate change emergency declaration

[1:21:54] Voice 6: that came through trust council,

[1:21:56] Voice 6: which overlaps with some of our work

[1:21:58] Voice 6: as well as the reconciliation action plans

[1:22:00] Voice 6: that are happening in tandem.

[1:22:02] Voice 6: And then our fund development action plan

[1:22:06] Voice 6: may be an area to highlight

[1:22:08] Voice 6: either in a regular portion of the meeting

[1:22:10] Voice 6: or an in-camera portion of the meeting depending on the content um and then agreements with crown

[1:22:15] Voice 6: agencies um because some of those are under negotiation at the moment so those are some

[1:22:20] Voice 6: potential topics of interest um and i just want to open it up for discussion uh through the chair

[1:22:28] Voice 6: um to see if this this resonates with you or if you'd like to continue with the the format that

[1:22:34] Voice 6: we've been using over the last few years um

[1:22:37] Trustee Stamford: thank you manager emmings i'll just make a couple of

[1:22:40] Trustee Stamford: statements, because I had had a chat with staff on this is that our last joint meeting was

[1:22:48] Trustee Stamford: particularly uncomfortable, primarily because we had just come into the whole zoom scenario with

[1:22:56] Trustee Stamford: with COVID. And we were kind of getting used to how this all works. But it was very difficult to

[1:23:03] Trustee Stamford: share because there wasn't really a focus. And it was two hours of looking for a purpose,

[1:23:09] Trustee Stamford: us as far as i was concerned which is not easy for any of us because we're all busy people so i'm

[1:23:16] Trustee Stamford: much more comfortable with seeing this as a focus and and have some ideas um but i am also looking

[1:23:24] Trustee Stamford: forward um the direction from the board before i i bring forward my ideas so um um trustee adams i

[1:23:34] Trustee Stamford: I just can't see you.

[1:23:36] Trustee Stamford: So do you have any comments to start off?

[1:23:38] Trustee Stamford: There you are.

[1:23:39] Trustee Stamford: Okay.

[1:23:41] Voice 11: Yeah, not too much.

[1:23:43] Voice 11: I did like the idea of the slide presentation just because I think it's, you know, kind of good to do a visual thing, particularly since we're meeting like this.

[1:23:55] Voice 11: and and to just engage people in um you know kind of a interesting uh entertaining

[1:24:05] Voice 11: uh sort of uh review of of what we're up to so i i like that and um uh yeah i think an update about

[1:24:18] Voice 11: the the funding and also the the legislative request um would be good things i'd certainly

[1:24:25] Voice 11: like to know uh just from the executive committee any perspectives on those so i couldn't think of

[1:24:31] Voice 11: any other um topics uh i guess we the ones that are listed here at the bottom sorry under topics

[1:24:42] Voice 11: of mutual interest um are we thinking we would just choose from those or are we would we want

[1:24:51] Voice 11: to put all of those on i just i guess my overall thought is we would want to just have some focused

[1:24:56] Voice 11: discussion on the things that are most important to us rather than sort of diluting it too much

[1:25:01] Voice 11: so thank

[1:25:04] Trustee Stamford: you yeah that's sort of my feeling uh i think trustee fast you had your hand up

[1:25:10] Trustee Fast: yes thank you i'm um i'm in support of this focusing the meeting i think it really helps

[1:25:15] Trustee Fast: in fact i would take that round table and introductions down to 15 minutes myself

[1:25:19] Trustee Fast: and uh i like the idea of a um a slideshow uh in part because um yes staff report at trust council

[1:25:31] Trustee Fast: uh but nowadays we have that consent agenda approach and not always do staff get to present

[1:25:38] Trustee Fast: right um and uh and of course trust council agenda doesn't include very many visuals so you can't

[1:25:46] Trustee Fast: can't get across the uh feeling or the um uh the intangible changes and uh i i uh i also i mean i

[1:25:59] Trustee Fast: report as well right as liaison at every executive committee meeting but there's still a little

[1:26:04] Trustee Fast: little a few little words that go by you know so i i like the idea of having a report noting too

[1:26:11] Trustee Fast: that we were only reporting to three people really peter luckham the chair uh laura patrick and dan

[1:26:16] Trustee Fast: rogers and um because uh and interestingly i was thinking you know this is great because we should

[1:26:25] Trustee Fast: have the chair more involved he go he goes he attends um trust programs committee and the other

[1:26:30] Trustee Fast: standing committees uh but he's not um uh and through him executive committee is not as looped

[1:26:38] Trustee Fast: into um islands trust conservancy except through this meeting and the report that you can do and

[1:26:47] Trustee Fast: so anyway that's partly why i want to focus the meeting is to catch everybody up uh with the

[1:26:52] Trustee Fast: changes including from the executive committee side because uh and i propose that we um uh speak

[1:26:59] Trustee Fast: more specifically rather than the just the provincial funding request and the natural

[1:27:04] Trustee Fast: NAPTEP um I if we look at the um if we use the strategic plan as a way to look through we just

[1:27:15] Trustee Fast: modified the strategic plan at the last trust council and um so the asks at the minister and

[1:27:22] Trustee Fast: and then since then executive committee has uh well some members of executive committee have met

[1:27:28] Trustee Fast: with the our new minister and um uh and there seems to be i know uh quite a bit of discussion

[1:27:36] Trustee Fast: about um forestry it's a big issue on a lot of the islands and uh and that's what um uh

[1:27:46] Trustee Fast: of all the protecting we want to do uh forestry comes up uh again and again so that's partly what

[1:27:53] Trustee Fast: uh executive committee has been focusing on a little bit more with the ministry

[1:27:57] Trustee Fast: and um at least that's my impression i wasn't at that meeting and uh so there's another point of

[1:28:05] Trustee Fast: connection right we've got new um colleagues in the uh at the provincial level right up to the

[1:28:13] Trustee Fast: minister as of last fall so um those are my suggestions partly using the the updated strategic

[1:28:21] Trustee Fast: plan as a lens through which to look at ways that we can collaborate together thank you thank you

[1:28:29] Trustee Stamford: Thank you. Trustee Fenton, do you have anything to add to this?

[1:28:34] Trustee Fenton: Yeah, the only other, I think the focus is good. I think having that sort of demonstrative visual is an excellent idea and probably takes just as much time to think through and put together, but it'll get more words out just through the visual lens, not just reading a package or another presentation.

[1:28:59] Trustee Fenton: So, and then of those topics spoken to, I think the other piece that might be worthy of is the fund development action plan and sort of, you know, because that was a big part of our work for the last year, year and a half.

[1:29:14] Trustee Fenton: and in its own right has you know it's sort of a lens of stability sort of

[1:29:23] Trustee Fenton: increased funding through the eyes of the Islands Trust Conservancy itself had

[1:29:29] Trustee Fenton: a piece of what the puzzle like executive committee has to manage on an

[1:29:33] Trustee Fenton: ongoing basis depending on the LTC's they're dealing with so I just think

[1:29:38] Trustee Fenton: that's good for them to get hear about sort of in person um and be up to speed um and not just

[1:29:47] Trustee Fenton: in passing thank you

[1:29:49] Trustee Stamford: no thank you for that yeah i i think it it is important as you've noted it

[1:29:55] Trustee Stamford: it is a more of a two-way street and that there is a limited number of

[1:29:59] Trustee Stamford: We'll be right back.

[1:30:00] Trustee Stamford: people on our board too that are going to benefit from this given that trustees fast is on both

[1:30:05] Trustee Stamford: the executive committee and the ITC and we are also down one board member representative so

[1:30:14] Trustee Stamford: given the limited numbers I agree I would like to have a specific almost like a task for the

[1:30:25] Trustee Stamford: The executive committee saying your area of education

[1:30:30] Trustee Stamford: or responsibility would be provincial funding request,

[1:30:36] Trustee Stamford: because the executive committee knows far more about it,

[1:30:40] Trustee Stamford: and I would like to hear from them on a more formal way.

[1:30:44] Trustee Stamford: Also, the NAPTEP expansion possibility,

[1:30:47] Trustee Stamford: and Forestry is a good point.

[1:30:49] Trustee Stamford: Some of this may have to be in camera,

[1:30:52] Trustee Stamford: but if we say this is our expectation,

[1:30:55] Trustee Stamford: then we will learn from them aspects that we're not getting right now and i'll just

[1:31:02] Trustee Stamford: keep going a little bit and then um if we could pick um three specific top two or three

[1:31:11] Trustee Stamford: topics from the mutual interest um i'm looking for suggestions but i also agree with trustee

[1:31:19] Trustee Stamford: fenton i think the fund development action plan maybe that could be part of our education

[1:31:24] Trustee Stamford: workshop i'm not sure if um our our fund staff fund development staff would be ready for that

[1:31:32] Trustee Stamford: but it may be an opportunity to do a 15 minute workshop on um plan giving um or

[1:31:41] Trustee Stamford: open those opportunities across the um the trust for the trustees uh that was one of the things i

[1:31:48] Trustee Stamford: was thinking from. And it looks like Carla says she's game. So that would be something I'd like

[1:31:55] Trustee Stamford: to see. Agreements with crown agencies is my particular topic. But also, I think the executive

[1:32:05] Trustee Stamford: committee will be interested in how we're doing with our species at risk program. And highlighting

[1:32:09] Trustee Stamford: that through the opportunities through a visual presentation, I think would be an exciting way

[1:32:16] Trustee Stamford: way to introduce that those are just my thoughts um i am a little some of them are very big i mean

[1:32:23] Trustee Stamford: looking at the island's trust policy statement referral or climate change emergency those are

[1:32:29] Trustee Stamford: bigger topics um that you know can easily take up a good hour or so but anyway i'm open to

[1:32:37] Trustee Stamford: suggestions those were my thoughts when i first looked at this uh trustee fast you had a comment

[1:32:45] Trustee Stamford: coming out of that oh you're you're oh you're fine okay um oh trustee adams go ahead yeah i

[1:32:57] Voice 11: guess i just wondered if um trustee fast had any uh maybe more specific advice coming from the

[1:33:09] Voice 11: executive committee or if we should ask the executive committee if they had i can't remember

[1:33:14] Voice 11: just exactly how we've done this in the past but if they've had uh some specific things they would

[1:33:20] Voice 11: like to know about or discuss yeah

[1:33:25] Trustee Fast: in my uh experience both groups talk about what they

[1:33:30] Trustee Fast: want to talk about uh and and and want to have input into the uh agenda and um you know i like

[1:33:41] Trustee Fast: i tried to say in the last part i focus on not just telling each other things but uh how can

[1:33:47] Trustee Fast: we best collaborate in the year to come with these different changes and opportunities and

[1:33:53] Trustee Fast: COVID situations and whatever, including at what steps should we check in with the other group?

[1:34:02] Trustee Fast: For example, the ministers meeting I'm talking about, I don't know whether any conversation

[1:34:11] Trustee Fast: about the Islands Trust Conservancy even crept into that conversation, so maybe we should have

[1:34:17] Trustee Fast: some points where um the executive committee should invite the input of the chair for example

[1:34:25] Trustee Fast: or of staff and um uh anyway that's just my my my feeling as a as a liaison person

[1:34:34] Trustee Fast: um it's difficult for one person to kind of keep the group's uh a lot um interests aligned or or to

[1:34:47] Trustee Fast: to leap in with something in the middle of another conversation that relates

[1:34:51] Trustee Fast: to something else. So this is a good opportunity.

[1:34:54] Trustee Fast: I like the idea of trimming it down, but if we can focus on collaborating,

[1:34:59] Trustee Fast: like how can, how can we both help each other rather than just telling each

[1:35:05] Trustee Fast: other things, I think that would help.

[1:35:08] Trustee Stamford: I'm just wondering if that would be a good topic for our round table is,

[1:35:14] Trustee Stamford: is defining it in that way.

[1:35:18] Trustee Stamford: that could be a way of starting us off.

[1:35:20] Trustee Fast: Yeah, great suggestion. Yeah.

[1:35:25] Trustee Stamford: Any other

[1:35:26] Trustee Stamford: suggestions about this? Kate, does this give you something to work with? Do you think we're

[1:35:33] Trustee Stamford: in the right direction?

[1:35:35] Voice 6: I would like to echo back what I've heard and make sure that I'm on the

[1:35:39] Voice 6: right track to make sure I've captured the right pieces of the conversation. So what I heard is

[1:35:46] Voice 6: is that it'd be nice to frame the round table

[1:35:50] Voice 6: around collaborations and where IEC and ITCs work together

[1:35:56] Voice 6: as opposed to framing it as we've been working on this

[1:35:58] Voice 6: and you've been working on that.

[1:36:00] Voice 6: Is that correct?

[1:36:03] Voice 6: Does the board want to look at carving back that time?

[1:36:07] Voice 6: So we've suggested, I think a half an hour.

[1:36:11] Voice 6: Yeah, half an hour for the round table.

[1:36:13] Voice 6: Did you want us to carve it back to 15 minutes?

[1:36:17] Trustee Stamford: can we can we say

[1:36:18] Trustee Stamford: 20 i think it depends on what the rest of the topics are okay um but um

[1:36:26] Trustee Stamford: yeah we could we could one wander around in the weeds for a while if we don't have a specific

[1:36:33] Trustee Stamford: time limit so shorten it

[1:36:36] Trustee Stamford: a little bit okay go ahead trustee fenton what it oh

[1:36:40] Trustee Fenton: yeah i'm just

[1:36:41] Trustee Fenton: thinking of the collaborative so that you put that in your opening round table so it may come back to

[1:36:46] Trustee Fenton: 20 minutes but maybe that's where you hit the high points um to our to prep discussions that

[1:36:54] Trustee Fenton: frame what collaboration is and then see the either some of the things that we look to collaborate

[1:36:59] Trustee Fenton: on yeah and

[1:37:01] Trustee Fenton: then that sets the tone for the rest of the conversation okay and

[1:37:05] Trustee Stamford: and what else did

[1:37:07] Trustee Stamford: you hear um kate

[1:37:08] Voice 6: i heard that you were um interested in a presentation with visuals from

[1:37:14] Voice 6: ITC staff, so we will do that. In terms of topics of mutual interest, and this is maybe where I

[1:37:21] Voice 6: could use your input to make sure that I heard this correctly, what I think I'll probably do

[1:37:26] Voice 6: is ask for some information from executive and also from senior staff around the provincial

[1:37:33] Voice 6: funding request and the Natural Air Protection Tax Exemption Program ask, and let them know

[1:37:40] Voice 6: probably through a briefing and to executive committee that we're hoping to focus on on those

[1:37:45] Voice 6: pieces but also that the other areas of interest that I heard from the board was were around our

[1:37:53] Voice 6: fund development action plan and I think it might might be nice to frame that in have a presentation

[1:38:00] Voice 6: like a little bit of information from Carla related to that but also ask whether there's

[1:38:05] Voice 6: an appetite perhaps to have that as a topic for a trust council meeting is what was occurring to me

[1:38:11] Voice 6: because it would expand the scope of that kind of work to incorporate 26 individuals in a more

[1:38:18] Voice 6: public kind of venue so that might be something to frame that conversation around

[1:38:25] Voice 6: and then the other piece around forestry issues is the other one that I heard and that kind of

[1:38:31] Voice 6: of links into the agreements with crown agencies and crown land so we could ask and it could be an

[1:38:37] Voice 6: in-camera item for an update on how those negotiations are going and and what they're

[1:38:42] Voice 6: hearing back from those crown land meetings um and then my thought would be to take things like

[1:38:50] Voice 6: the species at risk program um the climate change emergency and the reconciliation pieces and fold

[1:38:56] Voice 6: those into the staff presentation um yeah as a topic and the islands trust policy statement

[1:39:02] Voice 6: referral i mean that will work its way through the board in in the way that it will through the

[1:39:08] Voice 6: referrals process so perhaps that could be just left for the time being and unless something comes

[1:39:15] Voice 6: up that's really of note through that referral process that could be just left out of the

[1:39:20] Voice 6: the equation okay

[1:39:22] Trustee Stamford: like

[1:39:23] Voice 6: what

[1:39:24] Trustee Stamford: yeah i think there's also if i i don't want to paraphrase trustee fast

[1:39:29] Trustee Stamford: too much but there was a consideration of of pulling in this policy statement um aspects of it

[1:39:36] Trustee Stamford: um i i still think that's a little wide so if there's a way of tightening that up trustee fast

[1:39:44] Trustee Fenton: and

[1:39:45] Trustee Stamford: for getting more specific strategic

[1:39:48] Trustee Fenton: plan oh

[1:39:50] Trustee Stamford: strategic plan sorry yeah um if you could just um

[1:39:53] Trustee Stamford: again that those are big um that's a big document to look through so just tightening up if that

[1:40:01] Trustee Stamford: comes up um i just want to make sure that your thoughts are considered in this too sure all i

[1:40:09] Trustee Fast: i mean is the the the parts of the strategic plan that have itc work involved in them uh those are

[1:40:17] Trustee Fast: the ones we could discuss not the others model development permit area well you know well maybe

[1:40:25] Trustee Fast: although it's to protect douglas fur zones and the honest trust conservancy did that cabin study

[1:40:30] Trustee Fast: Anyway, I just, I'm concerned that the Annalist Trust Conservancy, I'm not able as an individual member to represent the Annalist Trust Conservancy at every meeting, all the work it does, when we meet so infrequently and when so much of our agenda is closed, frankly.

[1:40:59] Trustee Fast: frankly. And I, you know, a quick little verbal report doesn't do much. And if people have another

[1:41:08] Trustee Fast: suggestion, maybe at the meeting, another topic could be, how can we align our or collaborate

[1:41:15] Trustee Fast: better? You know, should I bring a few slides sometimes to an EC meeting? I don't know. I just

[1:41:24] Trustee Fast: Just perhaps this once a year meeting

[1:41:28] Trustee Fast: is not the best means for us to align our work

[1:41:32] Trustee Fast: when the chair isn't part of our regular meetings.

[1:41:37] Trustee Stamford: I think that that would be a good way to introduce it,

[1:41:39] Trustee Stamford: Trustee Fast, and maybe you can take the lead

[1:41:42] Trustee Stamford: on that portion as the liaison between the two.

[1:41:48] Trustee Stamford: Is that something that the other trustees

[1:41:51] Trustee Stamford: these are sound sounds good i'm more interested in process more than anything because i don't like

[1:41:57] Trustee Stamford: the long silences and and trying to drum up some kind of enthusiasm um last year was quite

[1:42:05] Trustee Stamford: torturous for me so um that's more what my thoughts um so we have we given you enough to

[1:42:13] Trustee Stamford: work with i think you've covered you i really like the idea of a visual presentation um with

[1:42:22] Trustee Stamford: those items that you described incorporated into it as long as it's not so much work that it's

[1:42:28] Trustee Stamford: dragging other things down yeah

[1:42:30] Voice 6: i think that it can be done um so just to let the board know the

[1:42:36] Voice 6: next step that i will likely take is to provide a briefing to executive committee to ask them if

[1:42:41] Voice 6: if they have anything besides what we're the board has suggested that they

[1:42:46] Voice 6: would like to discuss.

[1:42:49] Voice 6: And then it will come back to the board in May for approval of the agenda

[1:42:53] Voice 6: and we'll, we'll make it. So super.

[1:42:58] Trustee Stamford: Okay. Thank you. So if that's,

[1:43:02] Trustee Stamford: we've got enough for staff to work with on that, let's move on.

[1:43:06] Trustee Stamford: And our next one is the briefing on climate change project update.

[1:43:11] Trustee Stamford: page 57 and

[1:43:17] Voice 6: i'm going to handle hand this over to katherine martell for an update um

[1:43:23] Voice 8: all right so

[1:43:25] Voice 7: um as the board might recall you looked at a project charter for the climate change impact

[1:43:35] Voice 7: project uh about a year ago now um and at that no it was after that it was at the main meeting

[1:43:43] Voice 7: But at any rate, it was the idea of the next steps from the projections report that we got this time last year.

[1:43:50] Voice 7: And perhaps it was a bit ambitious in terms of what would be accomplished.

[1:43:56] Voice 7: As Trustee Fast pointed out earlier, COVID significantly reduced my ability to work on this.

[1:44:03] Voice 7: However, I think that that was in the end a good thing because through that time over the last while,

[1:44:10] Voice 7: I've had an opportunity to really think a bit more deeply about what I think are appropriate

[1:44:14] Voice 7: next steps are from those projections. And so I would like to request, not request, I would like

[1:44:23] Voice 7: to let the board know, I guess, about delays in implementing that project, but also that those

[1:44:28] Voice 7: delays are going to lead to some changes in the approach. And that will be coming back to you

[1:44:33] Voice 7: in May with an updated chart and some suggested directions and this little this does link into the

[1:44:44] Voice 7: work plan reworking as well in terms of trying to incorporate next steps it's a it's a large

[1:44:57] Voice 7: what I'll say I'm

[1:44:59] Voice 8: happy to answer any

[1:45:00] Voice 7: questions about about where we're going and where our

[1:45:01] Voice 7: thoughts are but I just wanted to give the board a brief update about

[1:45:08] Trustee Stamford: any comments or

[1:45:12] Trustee Stamford: uh go ahead trustee fast

[1:45:14] Trustee Fast: this is just one comment i've made uh um to claire freighter but

[1:45:20] Trustee Fast: i just find these project charters really difficult to read i don't know about you but

[1:45:26] Trustee Fast: my eye just slides right off them and i've started taking i started copying parts of them

[1:45:30] Trustee Fast: out and pasting them into a plain text document just so that i can actually focus on the words

[1:45:37] Trustee Fast: so um uh that's just a comment in terms of presentation if you have a way of having input

[1:45:45] Trustee Fast: into that i'm uh i'm just flagging it i'm not telling you to do anything i know it's part of

[1:45:49] Trustee Fast: a whole big system and i understand um that changes may be making taking place so just uh

[1:45:57] Trustee Fast: uh that's i

[1:46:00] Voice 7: sure hope so because these are extraordinarily frustrating to work with as

[1:46:04] Voice 7: a template for filling them in too oh

[1:46:06] Trustee Fast: okay really yeah

[1:46:08] Voice 7: because

[1:46:10] Trustee Fast: my eye just slides right off them

[1:46:11] Trustee Fast: and I don't know what the colors mean and anyway the readability is an issue for me

[1:46:18] Trustee Fast: oh good

[1:46:19] Trustee Stamford: I thought it was just

[1:46:19] Trustee Fast: me and yet they're so important right I mean this

[1:46:23] Trustee Fast: is where we decide

[1:46:24] Trustee Fast: that yeah so this is just um maybe it's because we're online so much and uh or something but

[1:46:31] Trustee Fast: but I can't mark them up with my pen.

[1:46:34] Trustee Stamford: Anyway, that's

[1:46:35] Trustee Fast: enough of that.

[1:46:37] Trustee Stamford: Trustee Fenton, you like the colors?

[1:46:39] Trustee Stamford: What do you want?

[1:46:40] Trustee Stamford: Well,

[1:46:41] Trustee Fenton: I was just going to say,

[1:46:41] Trustee Fenton: it's part of a project management process

[1:46:44] Trustee Fenton: and that in itself, not taking all the training.

[1:46:47] Trustee Fenton: And I came away from the program understanding

[1:46:49] Trustee Fenton: that I'd never be a full-time project manager

[1:46:52] Trustee Fenton: because forms alone would scare me away.

[1:46:55] Trustee Fenton: But it's an essential part or backbone

[1:46:57] Trustee Fenton: of the overall of our business plans

[1:47:00] Trustee Fenton: and how we move forward so if we can come up with a better system great but yeah they're a bit

[1:47:05] Trustee Fenton: painful in that regard and i support your concerns there across the board i i like the idea though

[1:47:11] Trustee Fenton: of what you're where you're going the direction you're going or you're forced into just because of

[1:47:15] Trustee Fenton: our current situation i think the whole notion i think climate change and reconciliation are

[1:47:22] Trustee Fenton: are very mindful pieces right i for myself and i can only imagine um the others running

[1:47:31] Trustee Fenton: the conservancy overall trying to figure out how to interpret and absorb and synthesize all

[1:47:37] Trustee Fenton: that information and make it into practical tools like checklists and for management plans to reflect

[1:47:44] Trustee Fenton: over time it's going to be a lot of work um so it it's going to take time so maybe

[1:47:50] Trustee Fenton: you know to take away from all this is that time is not necessarily on our side but at the same

[1:47:57] Trustee Fenton: time it's um it's a benefit to have time to actually reflect on all of that information

[1:48:03] Trustee Fenton: and how it's going to fit into your uh moving forward plans moving forward and i would i'm

[1:48:10] Trustee Fenton: just guessing and i can't speak on your behalf but i'm assuming that this will reflect work

[1:48:15] Trustee Fenton: work that comes across your desk now you look at it differently from a reconciliation perspective

[1:48:21] Trustee Fenton: you look at differently from a climate change lens everything you're doing is already even

[1:48:26] Trustee Fenton: though you haven't got the document there for you or a checklist set up it's reflecting these

[1:48:32] Trustee Fenton: changes now that we're talking about them and they're part of that bigger picture so

[1:48:37] Trustee Fenton: i'm as i say i think it's uh it's good and i look forward to how this comes out over time

[1:48:43] Trustee Fenton: but I think it's a beneficial delay to the support of it.

[1:48:51] Trustee Stamford: Is everybody frozen?

[1:48:53] Trustee Stamford: Oh, okay.

[1:48:54] Trustee Stamford: Thanks, Trustee Fenton.

[1:48:56] Trustee Stamford: That's a really good approach for it.

[1:48:59] Trustee Stamford: Trustee Adams, I hope you weren't the inventor

[1:49:01] Trustee Stamford: of that particular format.

[1:49:07] Voice 11: No, although I think it was invented when I was around

[1:49:10] Voice 11: and it was an improvement over what we did before.

[1:49:17] so

[1:49:19] Trustee Stamford: if there's no other comments about this I mean it certainly makes sense to me Catherine

[1:49:24] Trustee Stamford: you know that there have been so many challenges um but so many victories uh that we are moving

[1:49:30] Trustee Stamford: at an incredible pace and things are bound to um I'm not even going to say slide off the table

[1:49:37] Trustee Stamford: they're just bound to be put aside temporarily and and this is perfectly within the the realm of

[1:49:45] Trustee Stamford: of what is expected so um i'm just appreciate the update

[1:49:51] Voice 9: excellent um

[1:49:54] Trustee Stamford: so if there's no other

[1:49:56] Trustee Stamford: comments about this i'd like to move on to um the kelp mapping briefing and that's on page 59

[1:50:04] Trustee Stamford: this

[1:50:06] Voice 7: one is me as well this is okay

[1:50:08] Voice 7: opportunity you have the best jobs uh yeah

[1:50:13] Voice 7: Yeah, that's right. Well, the notion of improving our bull kelp mapping has been part of the

[1:50:20] Voice 7: work plan for a while, but lacked the right technology or the right partnerships. And as

[1:50:25] Voice 7: part of trying to pursue those, I picked up a conversation that Kate had started several years

[1:50:30] Voice 7: ago with Dr. Mesira Acosta at UVic. And it was absolutely perfect timing because I contacted

[1:50:38] Voice 7: her right when she was putting together this exciting new BC Kelp Resiliency Project

[1:50:45] Voice 7: partnership, which is being led by her research lab at UVic, but bringing in a series of other

[1:50:52] Voice 7: partners. And the ultimate goal is to try and tease, this is a big picture research goal,

[1:50:58] Voice 7: is to try and tease apart how kelp beds are changing in size and location over time and

[1:51:06] Voice 7: pick out what pieces of that are driven by what factors so that we can try and understand how they

[1:51:13] Voice 7: might change under climate change projections and then as well try and get a handle on whether or

[1:51:20] Voice 7: not they're going to be refugia under climate change and what we may need to consider or do

[1:51:26] Voice 7: in order to protect them or expand them or restore them or whatever else needs to be done and so I

[1:51:32] Voice 7: think that aligns really nicely with the other pieces that we're looking at and particularly

[1:51:36] Voice 7: also with the reconciliation, as Trustee Fenton just pointed out, because of the importance

[1:51:41] Voice 7: of kelp beds and that landscape connection in a lot of First Nations worldviews as well.

[1:51:47] Voice 7: So the issue, or the issue, the piece here in this briefing note is around this application

[1:51:57] Voice 7: that Dr. Koss is about to put into the National Science and Engineering Research Council for

[1:52:03] Voice 7: funding. And I've not yet seen the final proposals, but it's an alliance funding grant stream,

[1:52:12] Voice 7: which I've never been part of before. But the notion is that the partners aren't just putting

[1:52:17] Voice 7: money in and then getting data out. They're actually a bit more actively involved in working

[1:52:21] Voice 7: together to create something that really is genuinely better off for the partnership that

[1:52:28] Voice 7: wouldn't have been

[1:52:28] Voice 7: able to be achieved without them. And so we have an opportunity to help work

[1:52:32] Voice 7: with Dr. Costa's lab to craft the questions so they fit with what would serve our purposes

[1:52:40] Voice 7: and other pieces of it. So the board here, you've got just sort of the snippets that we've got so

[1:52:46] Voice 7: far about what this will look like. And the next step is for us to, a bit of staff time over the

[1:52:53] Voice 7: next couple of weeks, crafting with Dr. Costa how we might be involved and what we'll be getting

[1:53:00] Voice 7: out of it in a sense for that proposal that will go get put into the NSERC board and then

[1:53:05] Voice 7: my understanding is it can take up to several months to find out whether or not that funding

[1:53:09] Voice 7: arrives and what the next steps are but even without this funding we've at least developed

[1:53:14] Voice 7: this networking opportunity and this part of a bit of a connection with her lab and the work

[1:53:19] Voice 7: that they're doing yeah

[1:53:20] Trustee Fast: yeah

[1:53:22] Trustee Stamford: any comments or questions go ahead trustee Fass hello Barb

[1:53:29] Trustee Stamford: Oh,

[1:53:30] Voice 4: good. Thanks. Sorry. I'm also listening to a board meeting at the moment. So no, it's, we're hearing you.

[1:53:37] Trustee Stamford: No, that's okay. She's just put her on. Go ahead. Trusty fast.

[1:53:40] Trustee Stamford: um

[1:53:41] Trustee Fast: i was just going to mention that uh as part of executive committee i'm also on the

[1:53:47] Trustee Fast: local trust committee of bolinas win chelsea local trust area which has um uh we had a hundred

[1:53:56] Trustee Fast: percent of the um residents at a recent meeting in nanaimo that was like a year and a half ago

[1:54:02] Trustee Fast: because it's one couple is there anyone and and they happen to remember the kelp beds that used

[1:54:12] Trustee Fast: to be all around them it's it's a whole bunch of little islands right and um i you'd probably know

[1:54:18] Trustee Fast: it better than me but uh they remember the changes in since they've been living there of the kelp

[1:54:24] Trustee Fast: uh beds and uh one of them at least is also a diver who was interested in

[1:54:32] Trustee Fast: regent this i don't know i brought up or somebody brought up the idea of um uh uh clearing out

[1:54:38] Trustee Fast: having an urchin exclusion area and what would happen and um anyway they're also keen to

[1:54:45] Trustee Fast: interested in helping so just in case it helps with your discussion think about bolinas when

[1:54:51] Trustee Fast: Chelsea and and talk to the uh I can't remember which planner was at our last meeting but it was

[1:54:57] Trustee Fast: a year and a half ago but still uh Heather probably would be the one to talk about talk to

[1:55:04] Trustee Fast: just in case you need an example or um a place to start or uh an unusual place to start thinking

[1:55:15] Trustee Fast: about what could happen uh Bolinas when Chelsea is a whole local trust area with um uh very little

[1:55:22] Trustee Fast: people in it and uh lots of former kelp thank you thank you for

[1:55:29] Voice 8: that i

[1:55:32] Trustee Fast: beg your pardon thank you

[1:55:35] Trustee Fast: just an idea so

[1:55:36] Trustee Stamford: if there's no other comments regarding the bulk help uh update um i'd like

[1:55:42] Trustee Stamford: to move on we are running about 15 minutes behind but i don't want to squeeze people too much because

[1:55:48] Trustee Stamford: these conversations have been very valuable so um now we're into our correspondence we've got a

[1:55:56] Trustee Stamford: letter here from nancy gordon regarding mount mount tremerton um and the possibility of research

[1:56:06] Trustee Stamford: and their local or native flora and fauna um manager emmings is this something you're taking

[1:56:14] Trustee Stamford: you know i don't know why i say this you should just tell me who's doing it um

[1:56:18] Voice 6: i can comment on

[1:56:20] Voice 6: it uh the nancy gordon requested that we put this on the board agenda um the gordons are um a family

[1:56:28] Voice 6: that have a long connection with liskety island and have been um very generous with the island's

[1:56:33] Voice 6: trust conservancy in the past and they were the donors for mount tremiton nature reserve um i

[1:56:39] Voice 6: I should note that staff are working

[1:56:42] Voice 6: with the Liskety Island Nature Conservancy

[1:56:44] Voice 6: and also with the Gordon family who are very interested

[1:56:47] Voice 6: on a project looking at exclusion areas for sheep

[1:56:51] Voice 6: and also for deer on Mount Tremeton.

[1:56:54] Voice 6: It's long been recommended in the management plan.

[1:56:57] Voice 6: In fact, the plan that was approved by the board

[1:56:59] Voice 6: a number of years ago suggests

[1:57:01] Voice 6: that as soon as we have funding available,

[1:57:03] Voice 6: we look at doing a project related to exclusion areas.

[1:57:06] Voice 6: is. There has been some work done by a group of biologists that was actually funded by the

[1:57:14] Voice 6: Gordons to put together a proposal and staff have been reviewing this and have a meeting coming up

[1:57:20] Voice 6: later this week to discuss it further. We have managed to find a little bit of budget to buy

[1:57:26] Voice 6: some materials already that's coming out of our current budgets for this fiscal year. So

[1:57:33] Voice 6: So we're hoping that we can somehow squeeze all of our planning in our next fiscal year

[1:57:38] Voice 6: to accommodate some of this, at least.

[1:57:40] Voice 6: So just to note that we're doing our best to try and move the project forward and working

[1:57:46] Voice 6: with the Gordons and managing a wonderful relationship with that family as well.

[1:57:52] Trustee Stamford: Thanks, Kate.

[1:57:53] Trustee Stamford: That's the less structured portion of staff's jobs, isn't it, is relationship development.

[1:58:01] Trustee Stamford: and and this has been a long and fruitful one um so unless there's specific comments um i'd like to

[1:58:08] Trustee Stamford: move on to the next um correspondence and that's referrals for sydney island yeah

[1:58:17] Voice 6: so these these

[1:58:18] Voice 6: two letters that are uh sort of co-authored by the province habitat conservation trust foundation

[1:58:24] Voice 6: itc are just here for information for the board this is related to our covid stimulus funding

[1:58:30] Voice 6: that we received to do wetland restoration work

[1:58:33] Voice 6: on Sydney Island and also on Liskety.

[1:58:36] Voice 6: And as part of the program,

[1:58:38] Voice 6: there is a First Nations referral process

[1:58:40] Voice 6: and this is to complete that process.

[1:58:42] Voice 6: I'm just provided for your information.

[1:58:46] Trustee Stamford: Thank you.

[1:58:47] Trustee Stamford: Go ahead, Trustee Fast.

[1:58:49] Trustee Fast: I may make one remark.

[1:58:52] Trustee Fast: I'm afraid that on 5.2.3,

[1:58:55] Trustee Fast: when I mentioned Bolinas-Winchelsea,

[1:58:57] Trustee Fast: I left the conversation on this unfortunate note

[1:58:59] Trustee Fast: of saying there's hardly any people in it.

[1:59:03] Trustee Fast: I wanted to add, if I may, that the executive committee was trying to arrange a boat trip

[1:59:11] Trustee Fast: with local First Nations and we got to the point of actually having a date and it all arranged and

[1:59:17] Trustee Fast: then the boat fell through and they only had two smaller boats anyway. But there's also

[1:59:25] Trustee Fast: both the local First Nations who are interested and were on the point of being engaged

[1:59:32] Trustee Fast: with Bolinas Winchelsea so of course there are people there and lots of

[1:59:37] Trustee Fast: people but there's also the Biosphere Reserve that Bolinas Winchelsea is

[1:59:42] Trustee Fast: inside so in terms of the alliances I just wanted to add that because I felt I

[1:59:46] Trustee Fast: left it on a incorrect note thank you thank

[1:59:50] Trustee Stamford: you for that trustee Fass just a

[1:59:54] Trustee Stamford: quick comment on it's like for instance the Mesquitea Island letter is there any

[2:00:00] Trustee Stamford: any benefit to having this on the Leskeetee Island webpage or informing the local trust

[2:00:08] Trustee Stamford: committee? Is there any benefit to that? Or just to make them aware that this is going forward

[2:00:14] Trustee Stamford: to the First Nations in their area? I'll leave it up to you to consider.

[2:00:22] Trustee Stamford: Could

[2:00:23] Voice 6: speak with our senior intergovernmental policy analyst to see if she would like to kind

[2:00:28] Voice 6: of coordinate that a bit she is aware of these levels she did review these along with itc staff

[2:00:36] Voice 6: so yeah it's a good point and i'll i'll raise it with her okay

[2:00:39] Trustee Stamford: thank you yeah um if there's

[2:00:42] Trustee Stamford: no other comments um so right now trustee fenton is off okay um i'd like to move on to um executive

[2:00:54] Trustee Stamford: executive we've got uh 5.4.1 um is there any further executive committee updates uh suelen

[2:01:01] Trustee Stamford: if there's something very quick or if you've um discussed it already i

[2:01:07] Trustee Fast: think we've all been at

[2:01:08] Trustee Fast: trust council most recently and our last executive committee meeting was executive committee meeting

[2:01:14] Trustee Fast: was a lot of review of trust council and i've mentioned the minister's meeting those were the

[2:01:18] Trustee Fast: two that i was just going to flag okay thank you if islands trust conservancy at any time wants me

[2:01:26] Trustee Fast: to bring up something specific at an islands trust meeting and sorry at an executive committee

[2:01:31] Trustee Fast: meeting or to put something on the agenda i can do please get in touch good

[2:01:35] Trustee Stamford: point good point

[2:01:38] Trustee Stamford: um so we've got public acquisitions report page 67 any questions uh is there anything you want

[2:01:51] Trustee Stamford: to highlight manager emmings or anybody else not

[2:01:58] Voice 5: that i want to highlight i don't know katherine

[2:01:59] Voice 5: you want to highlight anything okay no okay

[2:02:03] Trustee Stamford: i don't see any questions from the trustees so

[2:02:06] Trustee Stamford: uh public confidence report on page 68 i'll

[2:02:13] Voice 6: also defer to katherine on this if she'd like to

[2:02:15] Voice 6: add anything in particular um

[2:02:20] Voice 7: okay can you go to the next page maybe um

[2:02:25] Voice 7: um i was

[2:02:29] Voice 8: going to mention just on the batista covenant but that

[2:02:32] Voice 7: is uh

[2:02:34] Voice 6: that is the next

[2:02:36] Voice 6: is

[2:02:37] Voice 7: that the next meeting no

[2:02:39] Voice 6: that's in the area here it

[2:02:41] Voice 7: is um just that as i understand it

[2:02:44] Voice 7: um everything's ready to go and as soon as the subdivision gets registered the covenant will

[2:02:51] Voice 7: get registered as well thank

[2:02:53] Trustee Stamford: you okay if there's no comments and and just yell if i don't see you

[2:03:06] Trustee Stamford: um we're going to move on to the budget report um

[2:03:12] Voice 6: so i do have a few notes that i wanted to

[2:03:14] Voice 6: make for this um the first being an error um we were doing we've been doing some shuffling of

[2:03:21] Voice 6: of money in our budgets at the moment as we're coming closer to year end and made a bit of an

[2:03:27] Voice 6: error in terms of the way our spreadsheets were adding up. And so there is a note under the

[2:03:32] Voice 6: property management budget that makes it look as though we're going to be, I don't know, around

[2:03:38] Voice 6: $25,000 overspent in that budget. I just want to confirm that we're actually not. We're going to

[2:03:45] Voice 6: be slightly underspent in that budget area, which is nice. We had a double counting in some of our

[2:03:50] Voice 6: projections so um so that doesn't seem

[2:03:54] Trustee Stamford: to have come up on my sheet am i not reading the right

[2:03:57] Trustee Stamford: line for property management it says 47 000 remaining yeah

[2:04:04] Voice 6: so there's 47 000 but you've

[2:04:05] Trustee Stamford: got 72 committed right okay and

[2:04:08] Voice 6: that this number should be yeah lower

[2:04:16] Voice 6: essentially will be about five thousand dollars underspent i think um maybe a little bit less

[2:04:21] Voice 6: um and that's largely due to the fact that we have actually got a lot of funding coming for

[2:04:27] Voice 6: property management through our species at risk program um i did also want to mention um just a

[2:04:33] Voice 6: note about the ruby alton maintenance account um we've actually had a number of expenses come

[2:04:37] Voice 6: through the door recently and and the number of committed funds for that is actually closer to

[2:04:42] Voice 6: 12 000 and i just wanted to highlight that for the board because this is of course a house that

[2:04:47] Voice 6: we manage and we're encountering many expenses and are anticipating some further expenses coming

[2:04:53] Voice 6: up in the next little while. Particularly, we've been looking at septic systems and water catchment

[2:04:59] Voice 6: as well as some foundation issues and drain issues.

[2:05:03] Voice 6: So nothing crazy to report yet, but just

[2:05:07] Voice 6: that we're anticipating that there will be some further expenses. And because of the amount of

[2:05:12] Voice 6: of time it's taking us to manage that house, we are actually talking with admin services about

[2:05:17] Voice 6: whether we can contract out some of the building management pieces of that property so that we free

[2:05:23] Voice 6: up our property management specialist to do the more natural property management that she does

[2:05:29] Voice 6: so well. And then I will also just note that the opportunity fund, we're starting to see some

[2:05:37] Voice 6: donations trickle through um that are in memory of Betty Swift um so that's been really nice that

[2:05:44] Voice 6: she she uh her family mentioned in um her their requests for um memory gifts go to Island Stress

[2:05:52] Voice 6: Conservancy I think that's all I wanted to say about budget any

[2:05:58] Trustee Stamford: questions from trustees

[2:06:01] Trustee Stamford: trustees um trustee fenton no okay thank you okay and then we've got the tax assessment notice

[2:06:20] Trustee Stamford: that'll be going into everyone's um tax notice in on for july 1st trustee fast yeah

[2:06:29] Trustee Fast: i just wanted

[2:06:29] Trustee Fast: to notice um point out a little error on page 2078 um i think the bowen island number should

[2:06:36] Trustee Fast: be 2.7 and i communicated that to claire i think okay earlier draft okay

[2:06:44] Trustee Stamford: so that's under your tax

[2:06:47] Trustee Stamford: requisition requisition or a different point uh

[2:06:52] Trustee Fast: yes i

[2:06:53] Trustee Stamford: see where

[2:06:55] Trustee Fast: if you look down a little further

[2:06:59] Trustee Fast: um

[2:07:00] Trustee Stamford: oh okay

[2:07:01] Trustee Fast: 2.7 yeah

[2:07:03] Trustee Stamford: great that that's a much better number yeah

[2:07:05] Trustee Fast: okay and i think this will

[2:07:09] Trustee Stamford: will be very helpful for people because people do read their their property tax notice and it i know

[2:07:16] Trustee Stamford: that when our rd has this kind of information it is well read and well commented on so i hope

[2:07:22] Trustee Stamford: see the same for the trust that's long time in coming um if there's no other comments about the

[2:07:31] Trustee Stamford: notice i'd like to move on to the copy of the latest heron which looked lovely and was very

[2:07:37] Trustee Stamford: very readable. And it was so nice to see manager Emmings profiled for, um, all the work. I didn't

[2:07:46] Trustee Stamford: realize how long you'd have been working at the, at the trust, um, conservancy, Kate. It was really

[2:07:53] Trustee Stamford: nice. So very worthwhile. Um, I

[2:07:57] Voice 6: just want to say that I got kind of arm wrestled into that one.

[2:08:06] Trustee Stamford: what do other trustees think of our um the new format on the herring i i just find it so much

[2:08:13] Trustee Stamford: it's just very readable and um the shortened format is less um onerous um so it was nice

[2:08:21] Trustee Stamford: to see it come in the mail but it is readable electronically too which is nice yeah

[2:08:27] Voice 11: i like it

[2:08:27] Voice 11: thumbs up for sure yeah i like the page on page 85 the the thing with the tree and the milestones or

[2:08:37] Voice 11: yeah you

[2:08:39] Voice 11: know maybe they're not maybe milestones is the wrong word whatever they are that go up

[2:08:42] Voice 11: the tree no

[2:08:45] Trustee Stamford: it's it's really well done yeah lots of pictures our attention spans are are just

[2:08:50] Trustee Stamford: getting shorter and shorter and shorter. It's

[2:08:55] Trustee Stamford: Sue Ellen here.

[2:08:57] Trustee Fast: I just wanted to say I really

[2:08:59] Trustee Fast: appreciate the infographic approach that's happening through the images. It's not just

[2:09:05] Trustee Fast: photos and text. The figures are telling the story. And I think this is a really positive

[2:09:14] Trustee Fast: development. And I'm, as well as just the fresh format and the briefness and all that kind of

[2:09:20] Trustee Fast: of thing it's uh it's more more punchy and um and the infographics really help so congratulations

[2:09:27] Trustee Fast: staff yeah

[2:09:28] Trustee Stamford: carla would you like to add something yeah

[2:09:33] Voice 9: i just wanted to mention um that the format

[2:09:38] Voice 9: is also going to change next time we do it uh which is in july it should basically we're going

[2:09:45] Voice 9: to be producing these more often and having them shorter so this is our last eight page heron unless

[2:09:54] Voice 9: we have something really significant and we decided to make this our significant one that was

[2:09:59] Voice 9: our 30th anniversary and then start with the four gauge ones coming more frequently so heads up

[2:10:06] Voice 9: there's more change coming but don't want to tip the apple cart too quickly for people when the

[2:10:13] Voice 9: format has been the same for almost 30 years.

[2:10:15] Trustee Stamford: Yeah, no, it's really good. Thank you, Carla,

[2:10:19] Trustee Stamford: for this. Are you still looking for more pictures from around the islands? Or do

[2:10:25] Voice 9: you have a good

[2:10:26] Trustee Stamford: collection?

[2:10:27] Voice 9: Always, yeah. Always looking for good pictures. And if people are on the islands,

[2:10:34] Voice 9: and we know we have to, say, put a slideshow together for the fund development training or

[2:10:40] Voice 9: or for the executive committee meeting that's coming up,

[2:10:47] Voice 9: it would be great to have photos of some of the properties

[2:10:51] Voice 9: that I can't get to, to photograph.

[2:10:54] Voice 9: So if anybody is close to or on these locations,

[2:10:58] Voice 9: just taking images, especially I sent a note around

[2:11:02] Voice 9: and maybe I can send it around to the board as well.

[2:11:05] Voice 9: You know, I need photos with eyes, whether it's a frog,

[2:11:09] Voice 9: you want the eyes in focus and looking at your people you notice the tree with the kids and the

[2:11:15] Voice 9: milestones you're not looking at their eyes there because there's just too much going on but just

[2:11:21] Voice 9: having some people in the images makes them very relatable to people that are not always biologists

[2:11:30] Voice 9: we're a very select crew and we enjoy looking at pictures of snakes and frogs and plants

[2:11:38] Voice 9: but the population in general like looking at will be attracted to faces just just uh yeah

[2:11:47] Voice 9: yeah

[2:11:48] Trustee Stamford: that's a good point um

[2:11:50] Trustee Stamford: i have a question about there is one visual of the cliff

[2:11:53] Trustee Stamford: uh back a page um it's trin kamali um those of us that don't live in that area i didn't know

[2:12:03] Trustee Stamford: where that was which island i think i looked and i didn't find a reference to where i like

[2:12:09] Trustee Stamford: i looked it up on google but um just something to keep in mind that i don't know which island

[2:12:15] Trustee Stamford: that is

[2:12:16] Voice 9: it's a really great point and i think i've noticed in the agenda that we're starting

[2:12:20] Voice 9: to put all the islands after any property name and i think we should start doing it for the heron as

[2:12:26] Voice 9: well and maybe a little map a little map enclosure yeah where

[2:12:30] Voice 9: are we in the island yeah space is a

[2:12:32] Voice 9: a bit yeah space is a bit of a premium but um yeah we'll try to be better at doing that okay thanks

[2:12:38] Trustee Fast: i see

[2:12:39] Trustee Fast: aaron colson has joined

[2:12:40] Voice 9: us i

[2:12:42] Voice 2: just thought i could answer that question really quickly about

[2:12:44] Voice 2: the island there was some i don't know how much uh to go into it in this portion of the meeting

[2:12:49] Voice 2: but there was a desire to be a little bit

[2:12:53] Voice 2: discreet about it yes okay perhaps i'll leave it at that

[2:12:58] Voice 2: yeah okay it's one of it's one

[2:13:00] Voice 2: of our tricky balancing acts with sharing great stories and

[2:13:03] Voice 2: also having to protect some things yes

[2:13:06] Trustee Stamford: yeah i wondered about that any other comments about

[2:13:11] Trustee Stamford: the heron or how we um how we identify our islands seeing not oh okay just too fast i

[2:13:23] Trustee Fast: just wanted to

[2:13:24] Trustee Fast: say hello to erin colson i'm not sure if i'd met her before oh sorry on the screen and uh so i'm

[2:13:31] Trustee Fast: I'm just glad to put a face to a name.

[2:13:33] Trustee Fast: Thank you.

[2:13:33] Trustee Fast: Thank you, Trustee Fast.

[2:13:35] Voice 2: I'm here.

[2:13:36] Voice 2: I'm here listening, trying to stay rooted in the board meeting as much as humanly possible.

[2:13:42] Voice 2: Right.

[2:13:43] Trustee Fast: Because I also see Erin on the other side with press releases about Denman Island and things.

[2:13:50] Trustee Fast: But here I finally get to see you.

[2:13:52] Trustee Fast: Thank you.

[2:13:52] Trustee Fast: Hello.

[2:13:54] Voice 2: Hello.

[2:13:55] Voice 2: I'm looking forward to learning more about all of you.

[2:13:57] Voice 2: actually i i told kate in a private meeting that i'm just dying to get to know the board better so

[2:14:03] Voice 2: um at some point or gradually over time i hope to know you all it's

[2:14:11] Trustee Stamford: just nice to see staff

[2:14:12] Trustee Stamford: in general knowing you're out there that's good um so now we're at the public comments and

[2:14:19] Trustee Stamford: delegations point of our meeting which is a new point um i'm just gonna i don't see any other

[2:14:27] Trustee Stamford: attendees um so i think we can pass at this time but um hopefully someday we'll have input from

[2:14:36] Trustee Stamford: our our vast public out there and um there's no new business unless somebody has something new to

[2:14:47] Trustee Stamford: to report and so now i'd like to go on to our next meeting date which is may 25th starting at 10

[2:14:57] Trustee Stamford: we'll see where we're at with the the COVID restrictions um hopefully we've moved on from

[2:15:03] Trustee Stamford: what's happening today anyway and now I'd like to go into the closed meeting if we could put up the

[2:15:12] Trustee Stamford: um the motion to close the meeting just

[2:15:17] Voice 5: working on it yeah um is

[2:15:26] Voice 6: everybody seeing this adjusted

[2:15:27] Voice 6: motion yeah

[2:15:29] Trustee Stamford: is

[2:15:31] Voice 6: it big enough that's

[2:15:36] Trustee Stamford: good now would anybody want to volunteer reading that out

[2:15:39] Trustee Stamford: how about i read it out just because i'm here i haven't done it yet um i move that the meeting

[2:15:47] Trustee Stamford: be closed to the public in accordance with the community charter part four division three

[2:15:51] Trustee Stamford: section 91e the acquisition disposition or expropriation of land or improvements if the

[2:16:00] Trustee Stamford: The board considers that disclosure could reasonably

[2:16:02] Trustee Stamford: be expected to harm the interests

[2:16:05] Trustee Stamford: of the Islands Trust Conservancy Board.

[2:16:07] Trustee Stamford: K, negotiations related discussions

[2:16:09] Trustee Stamford: respecting the proposed provision of a service

[2:16:12] Trustee Stamford: that are at their preliminary stages

[2:16:14] Trustee Stamford: and that in the view of the board

[2:16:16] Trustee Stamford: could reasonably be expected to harm the interests

[2:16:19] Trustee Stamford: of the Islands Trust Conservancy Board

[2:16:21] Trustee Stamford: if they were held in public

[2:16:23] Trustee Stamford: and the staff invited to remain in the meeting.

[2:16:25] Trustee Stamford: Do I have a seconder?

[2:16:26] Trustee Stamford: uh trustee Fenton and all those in favor great that passes unanimously

[2:16:38] Trustee Stamford: um okay so it's uh 20 after 12 um uh at the pleasure of the board I think if we can come back

[2:16:52] Trustee Stamford: at one if we I don't want to start two or any earlier just because we have a presentation um

[2:16:58] Trustee Stamford: So they'll be expecting to come in at a certain time.

[2:17:02] Trustee Stamford: And I think we deserve a little bit more time.

[2:17:06] Trustee Stamford: So if that's okay, we got a whole, what, extra six minutes or something.

[2:17:11] Trustee Stamford: So if I hear you all come back at one o'clock, if that's okay.

[2:17:15] Trustee Stamford: Do you have anything to add, Kate?

[2:17:19] Voice 3: Great.