Islands Trust Conservancy Board regular meeting, April 15, 2021

[0:00:01] Voice 6: Thank you, Pam. So thanks, everyone, for joining us again after the break. And we're now going to

[0:00:09] Voice 6: be setting up to have seven amazing presentations from the students. All of the presenters are

[0:00:15] Voice 6: first-year students, so it's going to be really exciting to find out what they have been and

[0:00:20] Voice 6: will continue to be working on during their time in the MCP program. And I think without further

[0:00:27] Voice 6: ado let's hand it over to crystal who as long as her five screens are set up is gonna chat to us

[0:00:35] Voice 6: about protected and conserved area planning okay perfect let's start

[0:00:43] Voice 13: the share screen

[0:00:55] Voice 5: okay that is not showing up is it uh

[0:00:58] Voice 2: we can see it it says indigenous protected yeah oh

[0:01:02] Voice 5: you can okay

[0:01:02] Voice 5: Okay yeah we're in business all right okay so yes thanks everyone as you know my name is

[0:01:08] Voice 5: Crystal Oberg and my project is in Indigenous protected and conserved area planning with a

[0:01:16] Voice 5: case study in BC so just a quick overview it's just quick six quick slides so an introduction

[0:01:22] Voice 5: background on just the two different parts of my research why it's important to islands trust

[0:01:27] Voice 5: ideas that could apply a trust to coastal communities and then some

[0:01:32] Voice 5: discussion questions. So first just an introduction, what is an IPCA? So this

[0:01:37] Voice 5: definition comes from the Indigenous Circle of Experts or ICE report and it's

[0:01:42] Voice 5: the lands and waters where Indigenous governments have the primary role in

[0:01:46] Voice 5: protecting and conserving ecosystems through Indigenous laws, governance and

[0:01:50] Voice 5: knowledge systems and there's three key elements of Indigenous protected areas

[0:01:54] Voice 5: that they're Indigenous-led, represent a long-term commitment to conservation, and elevate Indigenous rights and responsibilities.

[0:02:04] Voice 5: So some background for where this research is coming from. So in that ICE report, there's coming from international and federal biodiversity and protected area targets.

[0:02:13] Voice 5: So in that ICE report entitled We Rise Together, it provided a blueprint for Canada to meet its international protected area targets

[0:02:20] Voice 5: of 17% of terrestrial and 10% of coastal and marine areas

[0:02:24] Voice 5: by December, 2020.

[0:02:26] Voice 5: And what was found is that for this to required,

[0:02:29] Voice 5: it'll be nothing short of a foundational shift

[0:02:31] Voice 5: away from a colonial conservation strategies

[0:02:34] Voice 5: towards conservation models and practices

[0:02:37] Voice 5: rooted in indigenous knowledge systems.

[0:02:39] Voice 5: So in 2010, the UN Convention on Biological Diversity

[0:02:43] Voice 5: adopted 20 global Aichi Biodiversity targets.

[0:02:46] Voice 5: targets in 2015 Canada adopted 19 of their own 2020 biodiversity goals and then in 2018 the

[0:02:53] Voice 5: report and Canada pathway to target one came up with these targets that are in this report

[0:02:58] Voice 5: and then in 2019 of note Canada nature fund had funding and establishment of up to 27 IPCAs

[0:03:05] Voice 5: so going past the 2020 goals within a BC context this means going from a 50% land base to a 25%

[0:03:13] Voice 5: land base or protected areas and a 30 by 2030 and of note the government has recognized indigenous

[0:03:20] Voice 5: protected and conserved areas are an innovative land use planning tool for achieving these goals

[0:03:25] Voice 5: so the first part of my research was noting that professionals involved in planning and land use

[0:03:30] Voice 5: will play a key role in supporting the establishment and management of ipcas

[0:03:34] Voice 5: but presently there's no post-secondary specialization and in this emerging field

[0:03:38] Voice 5: to practice. So the first part of the research was developing an undergraduate certificate that will

[0:03:43] Voice 5: complement VIU's existing professional planning program and build capacity to support Indigenous

[0:03:47] Voice 5: governments in the management of IPCAs. The second part of the research is an IPCA BC case study

[0:03:55] Voice 5: and this is looking at a guide to three IPCAs in three different stages of implementation.

[0:04:01] Voice 5: So right at the beginning stages, one in progress and one that's already been

[0:04:05] Voice 5: and declared. And it'll be just like a guidebook for some elements of implementation. Why is this

[0:04:12] Voice 5: important to the Islands Trust? For the UNDRIP, so the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous

[0:04:19] Voice 5: Peoples, I'm seeing that Islands Trust and the Islands Trust Conservancy obviously operate in

[0:04:25] Voice 5: territories and lands of 30 overlapping First Nations and five treaty and tribal alliance

[0:04:29] Voice 5: groups, so the complexity of your area and the work that you're doing. The reconciliation

[0:04:34] Voice 5: reconciliation declarations that your agency has done and then probably that there might be some

[0:04:39] Voice 5: mirroring and some of the actions in your reconciliation plan from 2019 to 2022 and then

[0:04:45] Voice 5: of course Island Trust Conservancy's 30 nature reserves there's potential opportunity for various

[0:04:49] Voice 5: levels of co-management or adoption of IPCA styles into Island TC nature reserves and

[0:04:56] Voice 5: conservation covenants and then of note as well in the new federal budget we're anticipating the

[0:05:01] Voice 5: Canada Nature Fund that there'll be new funding commitments for Pathway to Canada One Target

[0:05:05] Voice 5: challenge funding, which is essentially that pocket of funding for more money for IPCAs.

[0:05:13] Voice 5: And how does this apply to the islands? Once IPCAs are established there's also a lot of co-benefits

[0:05:18] Voice 5: like sustainable development, proper protection of community drinking watersheds, and increased

[0:05:23] Voice 5: opportunities for tourism, and they're also an opportunity for true reconciliation to take place.

[0:05:33] Voice 5: So discussion questions for our time later this afternoon is how would you approach an IPCA

[0:05:40] Voice 5: management plan versus a conservation or nature reserve management plan? What types of zoning

[0:05:45] Voice 5: would be beneficial in IPCAs? And a common misconception is IPCA is just a replication

[0:05:50] Voice 5: of a park system. So what are some of the key differences of IPCAs and what economic models

[0:05:56] Voice 5: contribute to long-term financing of IPCAs. And that's it, thank you.

[0:06:08] Voice 6: Thanks, great presentation.

[0:06:10] Voice 2: Thank you Crystal.

[0:06:12] Voice 6: Before we move on to our next presenter, I'd like to open it up to the floor

[0:06:17] Voice 6: either in the chat or using the raise hand function to see if anyone has any questions for

[0:06:22] Voice 6: Crystal. I

[0:06:26] Voice 2: can't find my raise hand so I'm just going to say David here. Probably more for a

[0:06:35] Voice 2: discussion this afternoon but i'm really interested in this especially as you indicated

[0:06:41] Voice 2: islands trust is looking at reconciliation and different ways to to do that this looks like it

[0:06:47] Voice 2: fits really well with that so i'd encourage you if you haven't done so to chat with lisa wilcox

[0:06:54] Voice 2: at the islands trust about your research and how it fits in the trust area so it'd be interesting

[0:06:59] Voice 2: talking to you a bit more about that maybe down the road but look forward to this afternoon

[0:07:03] Voice 2: I am interested on, you know, how we can do things differently. So be looking to the planners maybe to have a little bit of discussion with you about that this afternoon. Thanks.

[0:07:23] Voice 6: I'm just skimming through. I don't think I see any more hands up. Oh, wait, there is one.

[0:07:31] Voice 6: I

[0:07:32] Voice 10: don't have a question, but I just want to say hi, Crystal, and I think it's awesome that you're pursuing what you were so keen to be doing when we talked a couple years ago. So, great presentation.

[0:07:49] Voice 12: Nerissa has a hand up.

[0:07:50] Voice 8: Yeah, hi. Crystal, that was a really great presentation, like super concise and great initiative that you're working on. Now, did I hear correctly that part of your work is including developing a certificate program?

[0:08:04] Voice 5: program? Yeah it is and I'm actually working on that with Pam so we could both speak to that

[0:08:11] Voice 5: so that will be it's being developed at Vancouver Island University.

[0:08:15] Voice 8: Yeah that's

[0:08:16] Voice 8: fantastic because I really do think that that kind of you know learning about like

[0:08:24] Voice 8: as planners like really understanding how to properly develop the relationships with Indigenous

[0:08:30] Voice 8: Indigenous peoples and how to move forward and actually moving forward with these kinds

[0:08:37] Voice 8: of initiatives, it's really necessary.

[0:08:41] Voice 8: So thanks for all the work you're doing.

[0:08:43] Voice 12: I'll add to that, we are working on a certificate together.

[0:08:47] Voice 12: So it'll roll out next summer, as Crystal said.

[0:08:51] Voice 12: The first course is an intensive in-person experience on the West Coast by Tofino because

[0:08:57] Voice 12: there is an IPCA there.

[0:08:59] Voice 12: there. The next four courses are online, and you could work through them at your own speed. And

[0:09:06] Voice 12: then the final course is a project is the idea. So it's six courses, and you'll gain a VIU

[0:09:11] Voice 12: undergraduate certificate in IPCAs. And it's the only program like that in Canada. So there's there

[0:09:18] Voice 12: is no competitor program for it. So it's, it's just rolling through the approval process. You're

[0:09:23] Voice 12: actually the first people to hear about it. So I

[0:09:26] Voice 2: think that's awesome. And Crystal, it's David

[0:09:29] Voice 2: here again uh yeah definitely interested in that certificate for the planners at the islands trust

[0:09:34] Voice 2: and we are we have included competencies in the planning profiles for job descriptions around

[0:09:41] Voice 2: indigenous competencies and the certificate would definitely support something like that as we

[0:09:47] Voice 2: move forward

[0:09:54] Voice 6: awesome thanks so i'll remember that spotlight off of you david uh any other questions

[0:10:03] Voice 6: well with another silent zoom round of applause let's uh say great job crystal and

[0:10:14] Voice 6: transition on to our next presentation by sky on uh squeaking into the conversation

[0:10:24] Voice 6: the case for the adoption of animal-aided design guidelines

[0:10:28] Voice 6: Thank

[0:10:37] Voice 4: you, Felicia. Hello, and thank you for joining me. I'm Sky Bell, and I'll be presenting,

[0:10:45] Voice 4: as said, a case on the adoption of animal-aided design guidelines. I'll begin with a review of

[0:10:53] Voice 4: biodiversity reduction in BC and some related policies and strategies. Then I'll analyze

[0:11:01] Voice 4: these approaches and outline the need for animal-aided design guidelines for the island's

[0:11:07] Voice 4: trust. This presentation is a response to BC's biodiversity reduction. Habitat loss is one of

[0:11:20] Voice 4: the greatest threats to biodiversity, and it's fueled by population growth and unsustainable

[0:11:26] Voice 4: development. In BC, 278 species are at risk, 1,807 are in decline, and two-thirds of mammalian

[0:11:39] Voice 4: species that are unique to BC can only be found along the coast. So seaside communities like yours

[0:11:48] Voice 4: are especially responsible for conservation. Biodiversity is key to community health,

[0:11:57] Voice 4: livability, and sustainability. So many municipalities have taken action. Numerous

[0:12:04] Voice 4: policies, such as those shown on this slide, have been established to help

[0:12:10] Voice 4: conserve wildlife and biodiversity while accommodating urban growth. But these

[0:12:19] Voice 4: responses tend to focus on harm mitigation, and they're usually generic

[0:12:25] Voice 4: towards most animals. Animal-specific needs are commonly brought up later in the development

[0:12:31] Voice 4: applications process when environmental impact assessments occur. Yet, research indicates that

[0:12:40] Voice 4: we can build cities with surviving habitats if we design them with animals in mind from the start.

[0:12:48] Voice 4: So let's do it! Voluntary animal-aided design guidelines make other species more than just an

[0:12:58] Voice 4: afterthought. They can be prepared by selecting certain species to support and identifying ways

[0:13:06] Voice 4: communities can be designed to promote human well-being and the satisfaction of other species'

[0:13:13] Voice 4: species specific needs. They can empower developers to be more sustainable and to avoid delays

[0:13:21] Voice 4: and late plan amendments that may cost more than nine hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

[0:13:27] Voice 4: So my questions for you are what species thrive in your community? What design strategies

[0:13:38] Voice 4: could support these species' needs and which animals and interventions are likely to be accepted by your community. Thank you.

[0:14:00] Voice 6: Another silent round is going on. You've got

[0:14:04] Voice 6: 10, 12 rounds of clapping hands. Thanks for that, Skye.

[0:14:09] Voice 6: and also I'd like to shout out your cat who did a cameo in the background while you were presenting

[0:14:15] Voice 6: on

[0:14:15] Voice 13: animal

[0:14:17] Voice 6: design yeah

[0:14:19] Voice 4: animals they're just all over my life I have 30 horses in my yard

[0:14:26] Voice 6: did you get the Clydesdale horse the one in the in the breakout um puzzle break

[0:14:36] Voice 6: does uh anyone have any questions for Skye I

[0:14:43] Voice 2: do but I don't want to go first I want to see

[0:14:45] Voice 2: if anybody else does i'm

[0:14:49] Voice 6: gonna shout out in the chat incredible holistic approach for all

[0:14:53] Voice 6: beings to live and thrive together i really like that so

[0:14:59] Voice 2: um so david here this is definitely

[0:15:01] Voice 2: another area that fits with the islands trust uh mandate and this is something probably kate

[0:15:07] Voice 2: emmings that they can islands trust conservancy would be interested in as well um they are

[0:15:12] Voice 2: responsible for covenants and purchasing or receiving donations of land for protection

[0:15:22] Voice 2: so definitely looking at species at risk is something that they're interested in

[0:15:27] Voice 2: and I see you know this goes a little bit beyond that I think and is looking at species generally

[0:15:33] Voice 2: trying to mitigate any potential impacts on them before we do anything so yeah definitely

[0:15:40] Voice 2: for a planning site i think we could look at what our tools are and there's some limitations but i

[0:15:47] Voice 2: think there's maybe things we could be doing a little bit differently so similar to crystals

[0:15:51] Voice 2: it's an area of interest i think for the planners at the islands trust for sure so i look forward to

[0:15:57] Voice 2: the discussion this afternoon on uh on this as well

[0:16:01] Voice 6: thank

[0:16:02] Voice 2: you yeah good presentation it uh it

[0:16:07] Voice 6: It makes me wonder, kind of like with the designing from 8 to 80, when you think about those on the fringes and design with that in mind, you often better meet everybody in the middle.

[0:16:18] Voice 6: So what of our own needs could we also be meeting and creating better lives for ourselves by considering our furry and feathery and scaly and what other co-inhabitants of our planet?

[0:16:33] Voice 6: So thank you for that, Sky.

[0:16:34] Voice 6: I, I will move us on over to our third presentation if there's no more questions or comments and invite so checking in the chat to make sure there's no.

[0:16:54] Voice 6: Now i'm actually to present on integrating equity and social justice as criteria for climate action planning across Vancouver island great Thank you.

[0:17:08] Voice 6: pull

[0:17:09] Voice 3: up the slideshow. Okay, are you guys seeing the correct present view? Yes. Yeah. Great. Thank

[0:17:19] Voice 3: you. Thanks for the introduction. And thank you for being here today, guys, and inviting us to

[0:17:24] Voice 3: present. As Felicia mentioned, my name is Julia Tibbett, and I'm going to be doing a very brief

[0:17:31] Voice 3: presentation on integrating climate equity as a criterion for climate action planning.

[0:17:36] Voice 3: So climate change is affecting people within our communities differently based on underlying societal inequities.

[0:17:46] Voice 3: Certain population groups experience higher levels of exposure and sensitivity to environmental hazards associated with climate change.

[0:17:54] Voice 3: Those who contribute most to climate change tend to be the most capable of avoiding its adverse impacts.

[0:18:01] Voice 3: impacts. This leaves a great discrepancy in how various groups within our communities

[0:18:06] Voice 3: will be affected by the consequences of our changing climates. This presentation addresses

[0:18:11] Voice 3: the importance of integrating a climate equity lens to climate action planning in order to

[0:18:17] Voice 3: create a more resilient and inclusive community. It will also touch on how this approach is

[0:18:23] Voice 3: currently being implemented in other communities around the world.

[0:18:29] Voice 3: The City of Oakland defines climate equity as the enablement of all people regardless of identities

[0:18:35] Voice 3: to thrive in healthy environments and to take an active role in designing and implementing

[0:18:41] Voice 3: solutions. Applying a climate equity lens to climate action planning requires the determination

[0:18:47] Voice 3: of which members in our communities are most vulnerable to climate change impacts.

[0:18:52] Voice 3: impacts. Further, vulnerability assessments will help identify how our most vulnerable

[0:18:57] Voice 3: residents are being affected. This will allow communities to produce proactive policies

[0:19:03] Voice 3: that reduce underlying inequities and the corresponding exposure to climate risks. Many

[0:19:11] Voice 3: communities such as the City of Portland are adopting climate equity as a criterion for

[0:19:16] Voice 3: implementing policies that address contributing factors to climate change and inequity simultaneously.

[0:19:21] Voice 3: Some barriers to implementation include building community and government buy-in, local context variability, and political expediency.

[0:19:35] Voice 3: This approach to climate action planning is becoming increasingly prevalent, and the Islands Trust would greatly benefit from adopting it to achieve equitable processes and outcomes for locals within the region.

[0:19:47] Voice 3: further the islands trust is committed to meaningful collaboration with the coast salish

[0:19:54] Voice 3: peoples and taking an equity-based approach to climate action planning can support efforts of

[0:19:59] Voice 3: reconciliation and relationship building there are a variety of ways climate equity can be integrated

[0:20:08] Voice 3: into our climate action regimes but ultimately its application must derive from the values and

[0:20:14] Voice 3: and priorities found within the community

[0:20:16] Voice 3: in a ground up community driven approach?

[0:20:21] Voice 3: So these are just a couple of the questions

[0:20:24] Voice 3: I came up with for discussion later.

[0:20:27] Voice 3: We can of course expand on them later on,

[0:20:30] Voice 3: but I presented where my climate inequities exist

[0:20:34] Voice 3: within the islands trust boundaries

[0:20:36] Voice 3: and who within this region do you foresee

[0:20:38] Voice 3: as being the most vulnerable to climate risks?

[0:20:41] Voice 3: And the second question is what might be some

[0:20:44] Voice 3: of the local community-based priorities and values that could shape how the islands trust

[0:20:49] Voice 3: would develop a climate equity strategy and that is my presentation thank you for listening

[0:21:00] Voice 6: i'm gonna unmute myself because i feel i feel bad that we're not hearing all of the

[0:21:07] Voice 6: um great feedback that you're getting from everyone it

[0:21:13] Voice 2: is hard on zoom right

[0:21:18] Voice 6: so again if there's any uh questions or comments that you'd like to share i invite you to uh speak

[0:21:25] Voice 6: up now or um we'll also be having discussions uh later so maybe you want to keep all your ideas for

[0:21:33] Voice 6: those uh breakout rooms i've

[0:21:37] Voice 2: got comments so you're probably going to have comments in everybody's

[0:21:40] Voice 2: presentation trying to give the planners an opportunity if they want to say anything now

[0:21:45] Voice 2: before I do. Okay. Yeah, this is another one that definitely fits with what the Islands Trust is

[0:21:54] Voice 2: about. And it actually probably reaches into two areas, not just climate change, but reconciliation,

[0:22:02] Voice 2: as you indicate, vulnerable populations on the islands with respect to climate change.

[0:22:10] Voice 2: And I think for me, looking at the Islands Trust and the fact that we have 13 local trust

[0:22:16] Voice 2: committees and boy municipality is um again this is probably a discussion for this afternoon

[0:22:23] Voice 2: is how would we um do this at the islands trust would it be at the trust council level

[0:22:30] Voice 2: so is this something that probably should be addressed in the islands trust policy statement

[0:22:36] Voice 2: a very high level broad document that guides the local trust committees and boy municipality

[0:22:42] Voice 2: municipality or would it be left at the local trust committee level to do something that fits

[0:22:48] Voice 2: with their unique community because as you know they're all different right so i think i'd be

[0:22:53] Voice 2: interested in that discussion but again it's i think it's something that the islands trust

[0:22:59] Voice 2: definitely could benefit from yeah it's a really nice job and looking forward to seeing where you

[0:23:05] Voice 2: go with that and um claire freda um looks after trust area services and the island's trust policy

[0:23:13] Voice 2: statement so um you may want to have a chat with her about how this could fit in that and also what

[0:23:21] Voice 2: the conservancy does the island's trust conservancy and the work that they do great thanks for the

[0:23:27] Voice 11: feedback there yeah i

[0:23:30] Voice 11: just have a comment just uh i mean we're this is a discussion ongoing for us

[0:23:37] Voice 11: us planners and the Islands Trust and you know there's a lot of affordable housing

[0:23:44] Voice 11: rezonings projects happening but one of the big things for me when I think about

[0:23:51] Voice 11: inequity related to climate change is groundwater and water resources and how there's these

[0:23:57] Voice 11: affordable housing projects that are coming in and we have a lot of issues with groundwater on

[0:24:01] Voice 11: the islands and you know in the future you know people may have to just have water trucked in and

[0:24:07] Voice 11: and what that looks like for you know lower income folks that you know maybe can't pay for

[0:24:13] Voice 11: water to be trucked in so for me I think like I'm just thinking of the groundwater resources and then

[0:24:19] Voice 11: you know as property prices increase on the islands they're becoming like you know like

[0:24:24] Voice 11: almost like an elite place to live and buy and yeah so I think this is a really interesting

[0:24:30] Voice 11: topic and yeah looking forward to seeing more. Great thanks Jamie.

[0:24:37] Voice 6: And there's also a comment

[0:24:39] Voice 6: for you in the chat there by Christine. Have you considered work by internal groups i.e. SSI

[0:24:50] Voice 6: Transition Salt Spring has authorized a external has authorized a climate action plan which melds

[0:24:59] Voice 6: into our planning work um

[0:25:04] Voice 3: on salt spring island i guess that means yeah transitions um i haven't

[0:25:11] Voice 3: gone too deep into the details quite yet but that's a really interesting point i'll definitely

[0:25:18] Voice 3: have to look into that um so thank you for raising that christine that's

[0:25:27] Voice 2: external groups right not

[0:25:28] Voice 2: eternal i kind of like eternal though we

[0:25:32] Voice 6: only want good groups to be forever eternal though

[0:25:36] Voice 6: um groups that like give positive energy back into the world so i think we're coming to the

[0:25:46] Voice 6: end of any questions for uh julius so how about we transition on to our next presentation

[0:25:55] Voice 6: with andrew about um the missing middle and housing you

[0:26:11] Voice 1: can hear me yeah we can hear you

[0:26:30] Voice 1: yeah thanks for having me i'm just gonna go kind of quickly through this um and i just thought like

[0:26:36] Voice 1: i'm not maybe as far along as some people but i thought that um this could be of interest to

[0:26:40] Voice 1: island trust and um i'm kind of looking forward to the discussions because i don't know as much

[0:26:45] Voice 1: about it so uh and how it applies to the islands but um yeah so to begin with um missing middle

[0:26:52] Voice 1: housing is something i'm with net from my research so um it's as a definition it's everything between

[0:26:59] Voice 1: and but not including single families attached all the way up to mid-rises

[0:27:03] Voice 1: and um so townhomes are a common one multiplex small multiplexes live work studios are all

[0:27:10] Voice 1: examples of missing middle and um they're called missing middle because there aren't that many um

[0:27:16] Voice 1: examples of them these days in a lot of the cities especially in north america

[0:27:22] Voice 1: and so some background um it's been found there's a need as a millennial generation is starting to

[0:27:28] Voice 1: begin families um they're looking for smaller home sizes typically um something like a lower

[0:27:34] Voice 1: price point especially with the cost of housing these days and um they want some amenities that

[0:27:40] Voice 1: that favor families, such as a grand orientation

[0:27:42] Voice 1: in three bedrooms.

[0:27:43] Voice 1: And that's typically something that you can only find

[0:27:45] Voice 1: in a semi-family detached.

[0:27:47] Voice 1: There's some real advantages.

[0:27:48] Voice 1: So one of the big ones is land use efficiency.

[0:27:52] Voice 1: So like a three-story townhome will use up about 15,

[0:27:55] Voice 1: I think it's like 14% of the land of a suburb,

[0:27:59] Voice 1: traditional suburb housing the same amount of people.

[0:28:02] Voice 1: And then there's reduced building costs, obviously,

[0:28:04] Voice 1: because you have a lot of shared walls, infrastructure,

[0:28:06] Voice 1: a smaller floor space.

[0:28:07] Voice 1: and so some of the good things many communities are now recognizing the need they're creating

[0:28:14] Voice 1: strategies whether this is within their affordable housing strategy or some communities are actually

[0:28:21] Voice 1: addressing missing middle directly so the city of victoria recently had a survey about it

[0:28:26] Voice 1: and then some cities are also eliminating single detached zoning and creating so you can build up

[0:28:33] Voice 1: to four flexes so cities such as portland and this really helps create that type of housing

[0:28:39] Voice 1: and some of the bad well this is an animal example but victoria um and vancouver aren't far off um as

[0:28:47] Voice 1: you can see most of the developments are condos um missing middle kind of the semi-detached home or

[0:28:52] Voice 1: the row house is only four percent um and uh single family detached is also precinct so why

[0:29:01] Voice 1: Why is it important?

[0:29:04] Voice 1: Well, we just talked about housing affordability,

[0:29:06] Voice 1: I think in the last presentation.

[0:29:08] Voice 1: So, the housing prices are getting more and more expensive

[0:29:13] Voice 1: and especially with the islands,

[0:29:14] Voice 1: people still have to live there.

[0:29:16] Voice 1: And there's a lot of people that need to be

[0:29:19] Voice 1: doing all the work,

[0:29:20] Voice 1: whether it's the person doing the maintenance

[0:29:22] Voice 1: or people working for Island Trust.

[0:29:25] Voice 1: And so if you can't afford a place to live,

[0:29:28] Voice 1: then how are you gonna live there?

[0:29:29] Voice 1: There's limited land stock.

[0:29:31] Voice 1: So even within Nanaimo, I know it's under 13% of land is now still available, like the residential land is still available within the urban containment boundary.

[0:29:41] Voice 1: So they're going to face a real issue with housing that we're already starting to see.

[0:29:47] Voice 1: We need opportunities for families who are moving if they get jobs, let's say, on the islands.

[0:29:53] Voice 1: And housing for workers, I'm sure, is a concern.

[0:29:57] Voice 1: So some of the ideas that I just flowed.

[0:30:00] Voice 1: quickly is having some type of middle housing strategy, some affordable rentals for seasonal

[0:30:07] Voice 1: workers. And a lot of people are doing kind of this covenant on resale price. So the value of

[0:30:16] Voice 1: the home will only appreciate at market rate or not at market rate at just like inflation,

[0:30:22] Voice 1: basically. And some discussion questions. I was kind of of my own interest, I want to know like,

[0:30:30] Voice 1: is an important issue for the areas covered under our own trust like how big is the need for missing

[0:30:35] Voice 1: middle or the perceived needs for families especially and how can we create missing

[0:30:40] Voice 1: middle housing for residents without having them become vacation homes or vacation rentals so is

[0:30:46] Voice 1: there enough opportunity to keep those for people who are living there and working there thanks for

[0:30:52] Voice 1: yeah that's it i'll stop sharing

[0:30:58] Voice 2: yeah i

[0:31:00] Voice 6: was clapping but i was muted great job andrew thanks

[0:31:03] Voice 6: for sharing and you've got 12 rounds of applause emojis as well um and let's open up the floor to

[0:31:12] Voice 6: see if there are any uh comments or questions or just points of um pondering and he's got their

[0:31:23] Voice 6: your hand up. You are spotlighted, Nerissa.

[0:31:31] Voice 8: Yeah, great presentation, Andrew. That was,

[0:31:33] Voice 8: and it's a very, very, I mean, it's a topic that I'm particularly interested in as well.

[0:31:39] Voice 8: Um, so I came from, my background came from looking a lot at urban situation and the missing

[0:31:49] Voice 8: middle. I mean, I think it's an absolutely necessary way to look at things in an urban

[0:31:55] Voice 8: context um and i thought you know my thinking was great it would be great to explore this on

[0:32:01] Voice 8: the islands which i am actually currently having the opportunity to do and the challenge with the

[0:32:06] Voice 8: islands is as as jamie had um identified is is that the islands are very very constrained with

[0:32:13] Voice 8: respect to water resources so any increase in density challenges the ability of um well the

[0:32:22] Voice 8: ecosystem um sort of to challenges that the ecosystem is as well as the uh you know the

[0:32:30] Voice 8: availability of of water for for um community use and so it's a real it's a huge problem because

[0:32:39] Voice 8: andrew you've you've you've identified some of the the the challenges that that do absolutely

[0:32:44] Voice 8: exist where you know these islands they need people they need younger people to come to provide

[0:32:50] Voice 8: provide services. All of the folks that are in the volunteer sector are seniors. And at some point,

[0:33:00] Voice 8: they're not going to be there anymore. So I encourage you to keep looking at this and, you

[0:33:06] Voice 8: know, help us find a way to address it. But it's extremely challenging. So yeah, yeah, yeah. Like,

[0:33:13] Voice 8: like like keep working um and uh and they're just there are some challenges that are very

[0:33:19] Voice 8: very difficult to overcome unfortunately and uh and this water the water on the islands is

[0:33:25] Voice 8: definitely one of them and

[0:33:31] Voice 2: david here if i may yeah

[0:33:35] Voice 13: yeah

[0:33:35] Voice 2: that was a great presentation and

[0:33:37] Voice 2: thank you andrew um i think and as nurses said in the islands um it's a little different but

[0:33:44] Voice 2: I think the issue is similar so the missing middle to me on the islands is right now the

[0:33:50] Voice 2: focus is on providing affordable housing which is below market and trying to and working with

[0:33:57] Voice 2: non-profit organizations or BC housing to get the zoning in place to allow that to happen

[0:34:05] Voice 2: but seems to me to be a gap be up from people that would qualify for that housing

[0:34:11] Voice 2: housing to your average person who would like to get in to the actual price of housing on the

[0:34:19] Voice 2: islands beyond that. So, you know, what's being provided is for a very limited group of people

[0:34:25] Voice 2: under a certain income level. But there's nothing really for people that don't qualify for that,

[0:34:31] Voice 2: but can't afford the high prices of property on the islands. And I know Salt Spring has been

[0:34:38] Voice 2: doing some work on that um looking at um allowing secondary cottages and suites and things like that

[0:34:47] Voice 2: in the house in on the homes and that might be on the islands what we would call the missing middle

[0:34:53] Voice 2: um we don't have high rises or you know with the exception of ganges we don't really have

[0:34:59] Voice 2: multi-family but we do have at the top end big properties with multi-million dollar houses on

[0:35:05] Voice 2: on them and at the other end, small properties

[0:35:10] Voice 2: with multimillion dollar houses on them

[0:35:12] Voice 2: and there's not much in between.

[0:35:14] Voice 2: So I'd be really interested where your research goes

[0:35:17] Voice 2: and if you want to adapt it to the islands

[0:35:19] Voice 2: I would probably think about it that way.

[0:35:21] Voice 2: And we're definitely willing to talk to you.

[0:35:24] Voice 2: The planners would be willing to talk to you

[0:35:25] Voice 2: about how you could do that

[0:35:27] Voice 2: if you're interested in doing that.

[0:35:29] Voice 2: And I think the research could be definitely useful

[0:35:31] Voice 2: to the Islands Trust as well.

[0:35:34] Voice 2: okay

[0:35:36] Voice 1: yeah thanks for that feedback and i think i know it's an issue even in victoria and a lot

[0:35:40] Voice 1: of those places where you're you have this very small income bracket you have to make under a

[0:35:45] Voice 1: certain amount and then over that you're paying market which um can be significantly you know

[0:35:51] Voice 1: out of reach so there is that middle um sector of people that are being missed um yeah okay thanks

[0:35:59] Voice 1: yeah and it's good to get insight onto like the whole water thing and um yeah yeah yeah i think

[0:36:08] Voice 2: also the islands the uh one thing that you touched on um is definitely worker accommodation because

[0:36:15] Voice 2: that's that's the problem um you know uh businesses on the island can't get people

[0:36:21] Voice 2: in to work for them so they're struggling thanks i see uh christine had a comment in the chat there

[0:36:29] Voice 2: yeah

[0:36:32] Voice 6: so uh christine said hey you're a great topic and one of great importance these days

[0:36:38] Voice 6: have you analyzed the pros and cons to who the suppliers of this type of housing would be

[0:36:43] Voice 6: private landowners government we had a bylaw that came into effect on salt spring island that

[0:36:48] Voice 6: provided some incentives for long-term cottages aka larger floor area in exchange for not utilizing

[0:36:55] Voice 6: those for b&b use i

[0:37:01] Voice 1: guess my answer would be no i haven't looked at that i'll have a look though

[0:37:05] Voice 1: interesting all

[0:37:08] Voice 2: right maybe chat with christina she'll help you out with that

[0:37:14] Voice 2: that's good though thank you okay

[0:37:17] Voice 6: so uh and we also have a link shared in the um chat um on

[0:37:23] Voice 6: gabriella local trust committee undertaking housing um opinion project as well so thanks for

[0:37:32] Voice 6: share please

[0:37:38] Voice 2: say you muted yourself

[0:37:40] Voice 6: thanks even after a year on zoom um i still i still mess up

[0:37:52] Voice 6: uh so with that awkward uh segue of the facilitator meeting themselves let's get over

[0:37:59] Voice 6: move over to michaela for her presentation on collaborative placemaking for a just recovery

[0:38:07] Voice 6: My

[0:38:21] Voice 7: screen ready. So I'm Mikayla and I'm going to be sharing with you my project collaborative

[0:38:36] Voice 7: placemaking for a just recovery. And yeah, like Andrew said, I'm

[0:38:40] Voice 7: a little bit less far along than

[0:38:42] Voice 7: some of the other folks, but I'm excited to share my ideas. So I'm interested in this estuary of

[0:38:52] Voice 7: co-creation between planners, governments and citizens. So planning between sort of the top

[0:38:58] Voice 7: down and the bottom up. So I decided to look at placemaking because it shifts power from

[0:39:04] Voice 7: traditional city builders, including planners and architects, to collaborative and innovative

[0:39:10] Voice 7: partnerships across governments, organizations, private companies, and individuals. I'm also drawn

[0:39:18] Voice 7: to placemaking because of what environmental psychology research has found, so that having

[0:39:24] Voice 7: Having a sense of ownership and feeling a sense of belonging in a place increases the likelihood of ongoing stewardship of that place, as well as higher civic participation, which I believe are two things that planners really need to understand.

[0:39:40] Voice 7: Placemaking is used to leverage existing social and physical assets to shape inclusive livable public spaces and strengthen connections between people and the places they share.

[0:39:55] Voice 7: Recently, the pandemic has demonstrated the importance of having safe, accessible, meaningful public space, while also highlighting aspects of spatial injustice related to housing, transportation, community gathering, and green space.

[0:40:09] Voice 7: This has prompted a rallying call to build back better and achieve a just recovery.

[0:40:18] Voice 7: In the U.S., the government-supported placemaking really exploded after the 2008 recession.

[0:40:25] Voice 7: The Obama administration recognized the need for place-based recovery strategies, which resulted in millions of dollars of funding for creative placemaking projects.

[0:40:36] Voice 7: Today, municipal governments in Canada are increasingly using placemaking strategies as a way to support resilient, sustainable communities through and during the pandemic.

[0:40:48] Voice 7: I've seen this evidence through the implementation of short term pilot projects in public spaces like living streets, for example, as well as funding from governments for citizen led placemaking initiatives.

[0:41:06] Voice 7: So my research question right now, it's a bit of a work in progress, but it is how can placemaking be used as a strategy for adjust recovery?

[0:41:15] Voice 7: So I'd like to think about it through some of the principles for a just recovery.

[0:41:22] Voice 7: So those are to put people's health and well-being first, to strengthen the social safety net and provide relief directly to people,

[0:41:31] Voice 7: to prioritize the needs of workers and communities, to build resilience to prevent future crises,

[0:41:38] Voice 7: to build solidarity and equity across communities, generations, and borders, and to uphold Indigenous rights and work in partnership with Indigenous peoples.

[0:41:53] Voice 7: So I'm planning to find some projects and identify projects that have emerged in the last year,

[0:42:01] Voice 7: and then interview planners, local government staff, and placemakers in the community who were involved in those projects.

[0:42:09] Voice 7: I still have a lot of questions within my research question. I'm not entirely settled on it yet, but I'd love to hear your thoughts or local experiences with collaborating on a placemaking project,

[0:42:23] Voice 7: and whether you think it achieved any of the principles of a just recovery, even if it was outside the context of the pandemic.

[0:42:31] Voice 7: pandemic. So I came up with a couple discussion questions, kind of last minute. So if anyone has

[0:42:40] Voice 7: any others, I'd welcome the suggestion. But I'm curious what public space has been co-created in

[0:42:46] Voice 7: your community and what meaning it has to you. And also, if you were to receive some funding,

[0:42:53] Voice 7: like happened after the recession, and I'm kind of seeing happening now in Canada with

[0:42:59] Voice 7: recovery money how would you spend a placemaking grant and what would you hope to achieve in your

[0:43:04] Voice 7: community thank you thank

[0:43:16] Voice 6: you for that michael so any opening up the floor to our audience if

[0:43:21] Voice 6: we have any questions i

[0:43:24] Voice 15: have just a quick comment um you had mentioned that you were interested in

[0:43:29] Voice 15: possible case studies that might be under current development um what your timeline is but on bowen

[0:43:35] Voice 15: Island. We've just gotten a grant to do the area outside the library. So it will be like a little

[0:43:43] Voice 15: stage area and some seating. And it could be an interesting project depending on what you're

[0:43:47] Voice 15: interested in. So that could be a possibility to reach out to that. I think it's going to be

[0:43:52] Voice 15: pretty quick that they're going to put it together. And right now they just have like some general

[0:43:56] Voice 15: design ideas. So interesting. And how would I follow up on that? I'll have to figure out who

[0:44:05] Voice 15: would be the contact person for you. So you can email me. I'll put my email in the chat.

[0:44:11] Voice 15: Okay. Awesome. Thank you.

[0:44:15] Voice 2: David here. Thank you for that, Michaela. It's another good one and

[0:44:19] Voice 2: obviously relevant to the trust in some way. The placemaking we do in the trust is a little bit

[0:44:24] Voice 2: different. Because we're not urban, we don't tend to get into urban design very much, but we do have

[0:44:33] Voice 2: have Ganges Village and there's also, Gabriela has a central area and I know that in the

[0:44:40] Voice 2: past they've done some work on trying to placemake that, trying to have a look at how we can

[0:44:48] Voice 2: plan for that down the road. And then Boyne obviously has some opportunities as well.

[0:44:54] Voice 2: And that's for sure Other Islands Wood and maybe North Pend is the next largest and they

[0:44:59] Voice 2: may have some uh there may be some thoughts around that and creating you know more of a

[0:45:07] Voice 2: central location there um and it's too bad that the salt spring planners have had to drop out for

[0:45:15] Voice 2: um another meeting that they have with uh so i don't think they're on but they are just starting

[0:45:22] Voice 2: a process of doing a review of the Ganges Village area.

[0:45:30] Voice 2: And that's a collaborative process.

[0:45:34] Voice 2: You might want to connect with Louisa Gabo,

[0:45:38] Voice 2: who's the lead planner on that.

[0:45:40] Voice 2: And she was on this morning, but she's not here right now.

[0:45:43] Voice 2: And they're just starting.

[0:45:45] Voice 2: So you might get some ideas around how things like that

[0:45:49] Voice 2: would work in a trust,

[0:45:50] Voice 2: but also um they may be able to learn from you too from your research and what you're doing there so

[0:45:56] Voice 2: that might be good um yeah i think uh talking to the planners i think any one of the planners at

[0:46:04] Voice 2: the islands trust could provide some feedback the other thing i was going to say is we have a

[0:46:10] Voice 2: regional planning committees which is looking at the more of a process around what we do with

[0:46:17] Voice 2: respect to official community plans and things like that so depending on where your research

[0:46:22] Voice 2: is going it may be you may want to consider having a chat with that political group

[0:46:30] Voice 2: around how this kind of thing could be encompassed or work in the islands trust area

[0:46:38] Voice 2: i think they'd be interested in that discussion and we could set that up for you at one of the

[0:46:42] Voice 2: meetings if uh if you're interested thank you and

[0:46:45] Voice 2: yeah and i look forward to more of a discussion

[0:46:47] Voice 2: about this this afternoon too so thank you great

[0:46:52] Voice 6: thank you for those comments everyone uh i'm just

[0:46:55] Voice 6: conscious of the time and we have two more quick presentations to get through so as we invite

[0:47:01] Voice 6: michaela to step off the stage uh i invite iris to come and share her presentation on

[0:47:09] Voice 6: Sanctuaries, Creating Nurturing Spaces Within Communities.

[0:47:15] Voice 14: Okay, thank you. I'm just trying to get it started here. Can everyone see that?

[0:47:21] Voice 14: Yep. Perfect. Awesome. Thank you so much. So yeah, my name is Iris, and I'm really excited

[0:47:27] Voice 14: to present to you today the topic of my thesis, Sanctuaries, Creating Nurturing Spaces Within

[0:47:33] Voice 14: Communities. And to be honest, I didn't really know much about the trust fund before Pam mentioned

[0:47:40] Voice 14: it and so I went on your website and I was watching your YouTube clip and it really did

[0:47:46] Voice 14: touch me because the islands and those body of waters they're already sanctuaries to me

[0:47:52] Voice 14: and to see them being protected and that there isn't rareness it really it really touched me

[0:47:58] Voice 14: and it made me happy because the definition in itself of a sanctuary is that it is a place where

[0:48:04] Voice 14: birds or animals can live and be protected. It is a place of safety of refugee and also protection

[0:48:12] Voice 14: but it is also a sacred and a holy place. And there are different reasons why sanctuaries are

[0:48:19] Voice 14: really important right now. For example, they do enhance the overall well-being

[0:48:24] Voice 14: and also the mental and emotional health of human beings. They build resilience.

[0:48:29] Voice 14: They help us reduce our stress and cope with uncertain and difficult times like we are in

[0:48:34] Voice 14: right now. They provide refugee and a safe place for us to retreat because not everyone can find

[0:48:41] Voice 14: it in their own home. They also increase an overall good feeling for our community

[0:48:46] Voice 14: and they also create feelings of belonging and connection with one's environment.

[0:48:51] Voice 14: And overall they just offer safety and protection for us all, humans, animals, and nature.

[0:48:57] Voice 14: and so far I'm still working on my research question I probably refined that but for now

[0:49:05] Voice 14: I think it's probably about how can we transform an urban environment into a sanctuary

[0:49:11] Voice 14: and when I was researching starting to research the literature I realized that there is not really

[0:49:18] Voice 14: a connection made between sanctuaries and community planning yet and as I said I probably

[0:49:25] Voice 14: probably want to do some literature with you on that but also online interviews and surveys with

[0:49:30] Voice 14: community planners on Vancouver Island and also experts in that field and I came across one day

[0:49:39] Voice 14: Maslow's hierarchy of needs and and it really it really helped me to get started because what he's

[0:49:46] Voice 14: saying is unless our physical needs are met meaning that we have a home like shelter food

[0:49:53] Voice 14: food. We are warm and we won't be able to feel secure or safe. So unless our physical needs are

[0:50:00] Voice 14: met, our emotions won't be met. And then unless we do feel secure and safe, we won't be able to

[0:50:08] Voice 14: have intimate relationships or friends or a feeling of accomplishment. So it really is important to

[0:50:15] Voice 14: have the foundation first. And sanctuaries, they do have many aspects to themselves. They have the

[0:50:22] Voice 14: physical aspect of a certain space or place but they also do have an a more non-physical part to

[0:50:29] Voice 14: it like the sacred feeling a feeling of safety and security so for me it was to just so for me

[0:50:38] Voice 14: it was that I decided I want to start with the physical one first like the buildings and and

[0:50:42] Voice 14: the spaces and then focus on how to add a feeling of sacredness and safety to it and after I've done

[0:50:51] Voice 14: my research I hope to find a common theme about what sanctuaries are and what sanctuaries are

[0:51:00] Voice 14: needed in a community gaining more ideas where and how to implement sanctuaries and also gathering

[0:51:06] Voice 14: information and data and why it is important for communities to have sanctuaries and even so I just

[0:51:13] Voice 14: started out I still want to sum it up a tiny bit because I really feel in my heart that sanctuaries

[0:51:19] Voice 14: are important and we need them for our soul um to me they're not just an asset um but they're

[0:51:24] Voice 14: actually an essential part of our well-being all of our well-being the one of humans animals nature

[0:51:29] Voice 14: and they can also easily be created or built on a small scale budget so i'm actually hoping after

[0:51:37] Voice 14: graduating that i'm able to create a sanctuary for people to rejuvenate and to recharge and i

[0:51:45] Voice 14: could either be a designated sacred space in a forest or on a coastline or it could just be

[0:51:53] Voice 14: a temple or a building that would provide some comfort and create more a feeling of

[0:52:00] Voice 14: of belonging and connection and and just being rather than doing um the and yeah and overall

[0:52:07] Voice 14: in general i really feel that the sacred has really been missing in our world for a long time

[0:52:13] Voice 14: it needs to come back and even so this is not a very tangible thing it still exists and it can

[0:52:20] Voice 14: be felt and experienced places do hold energy and in some traditions places are even considered

[0:52:27] Voice 14: living beings and yeah that's pretty much the end of my presentations and i just have a couple of

[0:52:37] Voice 14: questions for later i'd like to know like what does sanctuary mean to you and what is your idea

[0:52:43] Voice 14: of a sanctuary? How would you incorporate sanctuaries within your community and how to

[0:52:49] Voice 14: make a place sacred? Thank you.

[0:52:55] Voice 6: Thank you so much for that presentation, Iris. I'm really curious to

[0:53:01] Voice 6: find out what everyone has to say, but this time, instead of inviting audience feedback,

[0:53:07] Voice 6: just because I'm conscious of the time, I'm going to suggest that we save all of those great

[0:53:12] Voice 6: discussion points for when we go into the breakout rooms later and invite Sharifa to take us, oops,

[0:53:21] Voice 6: as I tell my second screen, to take us into lunch with her presentation on planning hashtag fan life

[0:53:33] Voice 6: and that will bring us to lunch and then we can save all of our great insights to share after

[0:53:40] Voice 6: the

[0:53:41] Voice 13: break okay

[0:53:48] Voice 9: everybody can hear everybody can see yeah I'm really cognizant of the time I

[0:53:53] Voice 9: definitely feel awkward about going into people's lunch I really like to respect everybody's time

[0:53:57] Voice 9: so I will give you a one minute presentation hopefully we all know what van life is and our

[0:54:05] Voice 9: beautiful island communities are areas that are very very attractive to van dwellers so the

[0:54:12] Voice 9: the question really is the vans are coming, but where should they go? This is a list of all of

[0:54:17] Voice 9: the places that don't really work and that we don't want to see. And the idea that I'm working

[0:54:24] Voice 9: on is how do we plan, design, and zone appropriate, legal, safe areas that work, that are friendly to

[0:54:32] Voice 9: communities for people that live in vans and vehicles and things like that. So some people

[0:54:38] Voice 9: think it's a bad idea because it encourages more vehicles and driving. I would argue that it

[0:54:42] Voice 9: actually, although people are driving, they are in a smaller footprint because they're not living in

[0:54:48] Voice 9: buildings and they're using very, very little water, which is obviously an issue for the island

[0:54:52] Voice 9: communities. People are concerned that the van parks will look like junkyards. I think that if

[0:54:58] Voice 9: we bring the van life sort of from the underground and make it legitimate, it provides opportunities

[0:55:03] Voice 9: for like regulations around things like that so we can see what's happening. Land is too valuable.

[0:55:08] Voice 9: If we've got land, we should be building affordable housing. And I would say that van parks and things

[0:55:14] Voice 9: like that could be used on land that is difficult to develop. So maybe something on a slope or that

[0:55:19] Voice 9: has drainage issues, maybe brownfields, things like that. There's the NIMBY consideration. People

[0:55:25] Voice 9: don't like change. They just don't want to see anything in their neighborhood that they haven't

[0:55:29] Voice 9: seen before. Again, I would say that the vans have already arrived. I'm sure you've seen them

[0:55:35] Voice 9: as planners and in parking lots and along the beach and things like that. There's also the

[0:55:40] Voice 9: argument that it's really substandard housing. We don't want to be putting people into their

[0:55:44] Voice 9: vehicles. And again, I would argue that it could be looked at as an option for affordable housing

[0:55:49] Voice 9: if it's properly designed, if the areas are properly designed and plans could also be an

[0:55:55] Voice 9: an option for seasonal workers.

[0:55:58] Voice 9: And so these are the three questions

[0:55:59] Voice 9: that we'll look at this afternoon.

[0:56:02] Voice 9: Okay, thank you.