Hornby Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, May 21, 2021

[0:00:00] Trustee Fast: Welcome everybody to the meeting of the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee.

[0:00:03] Trustee Fast: This is the electronic meeting, of course, because we're in COVID times and we're recording this,

[0:00:09] Trustee Fast: and that's the only reason I felt like I needed to mention that, because it'll be on air for years

[0:00:14] Trustee Fast: if people want to come back and visit the recording.

[0:00:17] Trustee Fast: So thanks everybody for joining us, and I'd like to begin by acknowledging, with respect,

[0:00:22] Trustee Fast: that we're on the, we're meeting really digitally

[0:00:26] Trustee Fast: across the traditional and unceded territories

[0:00:30] Trustee Fast: of the Comox First Nation

[0:00:32] Trustee Fast: and many other Salish Sea Nations

[0:00:34] Trustee Fast: that I feel really privileged to live

[0:00:39] Trustee Fast: on a sustainable island,

[0:00:42] Trustee Fast: pass along from people who've lived here

[0:00:44] Trustee Fast: from time immemorial.

[0:00:46] Trustee Fast: And so thanks everybody for joining us.

[0:00:51] Trustee Fast: We're fortunate here. Coast Salish people. Yeah, that's the word I was looking for.

[0:00:56] Trustee Fast: I'm joined here today by Hornby Island trustees, Trustee Alex Allen.

[0:01:02] Trustee Fast: Just wave your hand. Thank you. And Grant Scott. There he is.

[0:01:07] Trustee Fast: And these are just for people who might be tuning in from other islands or far away landowners.

[0:01:14] Trustee Fast: I'm sure most people know you by faces. And I've also got with us today

[0:01:19] Trustee Fast: um well together the three of us i'm sue well and fast sorry i'm coming to you from uh bowen island

[0:01:26] Trustee Fast: uh over here in house sound where i am a uh because i'm an island's trust vice chair and uh

[0:01:33] Trustee Fast: so i make up the third of your local trust committee which is grant scott alex allen and

[0:01:37] Trustee Fast: myself and um so we're going to be um um yeah i've already mentioned live streamed and um recording

[0:01:45] Trustee Fast: this message today and we get to the town hall session I see we've got six attendees welcome

[0:01:51] Trustee Fast: everybody so far six and when you get to the town hall session of the agenda which is number four

[0:01:58] Trustee Fast: if you could raise your digital hand and to do that you go to the bottom of the screen you'll

[0:02:04] Trustee Fast: see a raise hand button or if you're coming in on the phone you can press nine to raise your hand

[0:02:10] Trustee Fast: and sorry star nine to raise your hand star six to unmute i'll i'll remind you about this later

[0:02:16] Trustee Fast: and then um we appreciate everybody's uh understanding but i think everybody's getting

[0:02:21] Trustee Fast: more more familiar with these zoom meetings and they're working well and uh man we save a lot of

[0:02:25] Trustee Fast: carbon um anyway lots of uh these meetings have been working well but if you have any trouble

[0:02:32] Trustee Fast: with them please contact will coddingham she's up there in the corner with the ladder and she's uh

[0:02:37] Trustee Fast: uh, running this meeting from her home. So, um, uh, she's the one to get in touch with W

[0:02:45] Trustee Fast: Cottingham at islandstrust.bc.ca. If you have any technical trouble during the meeting.

[0:02:51] Trustee Fast: Um, so joining us also today, our Catherine Vogt. Catherine is our minute taker. She's

[0:02:58] Trustee Fast: waving her hand there. So, uh, she won't be on the screen that much during the meeting,

[0:03:02] Trustee Fast: but she is one of the professional staff. We're supporting the work of the local trust committee

[0:03:06] Trustee Fast: in running this community business about land use planning and conservation so Catherine will be

[0:03:11] Trustee Fast: taking the minutes and so occasionally I'll say things a couple of times or whatever to make sure

[0:03:16] Trustee Fast: that she's caught it or I'll check in with her also to with her with us today is um uh Heather

[0:03:22] Trustee Fast: Cowers our regional planning manager there's Heather uh so she's in charge of the whole

[0:03:26] Trustee Fast: northern region uh work of the planners and staff and uh based on Gabriola Island and thank you for

[0:03:33] Trustee Fast: joining us heather and um we've got uh planner uh teresa mahiqua with us today hello teresa

[0:03:39] Trustee Fast: and uh she's going to be um speaking to some of the topics on our agenda and we also have with us

[0:03:46] Trustee Fast: william sholba or freshwater specialist with the islands trust uh planning and there he is and so

[0:03:53] Trustee Fast: we'll be hearing from him in item 9.2 um now let's see this is an official forum so uh we'll be

[0:04:03] Trustee Fast: be taking the minutes and recording it and all that kind of thing but it's also a place for

[0:04:07] Trustee Fast: respectful discussion so let's be hard on the issues and easy on each other because we need

[0:04:14] Trustee Fast: to work together on our island and all of our islands to make good decisions for the current

[0:04:22] Trustee Fast: situation and the future and this is also a place of employment so besides we elected

[0:04:30] Trustee Fast: citizens who are up here as your local trust committee and the professional staff who bring

[0:04:36] Trustee Fast: their planning expertise to these complex and tricky sometimes challenges of making things work

[0:04:46] Trustee Fast: and making things work for nature we also have the public and that's you so we're looking forward to

[0:04:51] Trustee Fast: your input that we together the public the staff and we elected folks make up participatory

[0:04:57] Trustee Fast: democracy that's what we have in canada and we celebrate uh on the islands i think anyway um so

[0:05:05] Trustee Fast: people may have passions if you've got them uh bring them but if you can bring them in a kind

[0:05:10] Trustee Fast: way so that we can all relate to um what you're passionate about and uh and that we can understand

[0:05:17] Trustee Fast: and um uh and direct any questions to uh comments to us the trustees please and that's what we're

[0:05:26] Trustee Fast: here for and that's what the town hall part is about is to listen um so that's uh i want to just

[0:05:32] Trustee Fast: add this is a place of employment so staff are um entitled to a safe and respectful workplace

[0:05:39] Trustee Fast: and also they've invited us into their homes because of the pandemic they're working from home

[0:05:44] Trustee Fast: and i think it's even more important that we um treat each other kindly and um uh that that's

[0:05:51] Trustee Fast: enough to say about that i think that's pretty clear for everybody so um i don't know if i think

[0:05:57] Trustee Fast: i've got everything i'm looking at a few little notes that i've got i think that's it so uh let's

[0:06:03] Trustee Fast: commence the meeting i'm going to just uh um hide my self view and uh there we go we're ready to go

[0:06:13] Trustee Fast: so um i'd like to call a meeting to order and uh so this is um we may move some agenda items

[0:06:22] Trustee Fast: around but in general we'll be following the agenda that's posted at the

[0:06:27] Trustee Fast: municipal municipal at the islands trust website can you tell I'm also a

[0:06:32] Trustee Fast: municipal councillor excuse the blurb there and to add to the when we're

[0:06:38] Trustee Fast: looking at the approval of the agenda I just want to flag that in the agenda at

[0:06:44] Trustee Fast: nine point two you'll see that there is no page numbers offered that's because

[0:06:49] Trustee Fast: because we have an addendum for the agenda.

[0:06:52] Trustee Fast: And so a freshwater specialist, William Shulba's report

[0:06:56] Trustee Fast: is in a separate document at the website

[0:06:58] Trustee Fast: that people are welcome to take a look at.

[0:07:02] Trustee Fast: So we've got sort of two parts to the agenda today.

[0:07:06] Trustee Fast: Anything else to add to the agenda, Heather?

[0:07:10] Trustee Fast: Yes, sure.

[0:07:11] Voice 7: We do have one item on probably a 9.3

[0:07:15] Voice 7: that is adoption of two bylaws related to the OCP and LUV.

[0:07:21] Voice 7: oh

[0:07:21] Trustee Fast: okay 9.3 adoption of bylaws okay of bylaws ocp and lub okay do you want to tell us a little

[0:07:36] Trustee Fast: bit about what it's about just so everybody's aware what's coming these

[0:07:40] Voice 7: were um these were

[0:07:42] Voice 7: the technical amendments that got made starting a couple years ago so the

[0:07:46] Voice 7: housekeeping ones the

[0:07:47] Voice 7: housekeeping bylaws

[0:07:49] Trustee Fast: yep okay thank you just so we know that it's uh we're not surprised thank you

[0:07:54] Trustee Fast: very good uh alex um

[0:07:57] Trustee Allen: i have some new business i like to add okay

[0:07:59] Trustee Fast: what would it be

[0:08:03] Trustee Allen: sorry uh the first one is um minimum average lot areas and that might relate to what heather's

[0:08:10] Trustee Allen: just added as well and also i'd like to add uh hang on

[0:08:14] Trustee Allen: sorry just

[0:08:16] Trustee Fast: a sec um would that be under

[0:08:17] Trustee Fast: under 9.1, minimum average lot area amendments project,

[0:08:20] Trustee Fast: verbal update?

[0:08:23] Trustee Allen: Well, it's more regarding the correspondence

[0:08:26] Trustee Allen: we've received from, who was that?

[0:08:30] Trustee Allen: Oh, the

[0:08:31] Trustee Allen: Wiseman.

[0:08:32] Trustee Allen: And I'd like to bring that up for discussion.

[0:08:36] Trustee Allen: So it's regarding the OCP bylaw 166,

[0:08:40] Trustee Allen: removing second reading from the agenda to the July LTC

[0:08:44] Trustee Allen: regarding new information.

[0:08:45] Trustee Allen: So I'm just not sure where I'm supposed to bring that.

[0:08:47] Trustee Fast: whether

[0:08:47] Trustee Allen: it's new business or whether I bring that in to the discussion.

[0:08:51] Trustee Fast: Thank you. Let's ask the planner.

[0:08:53] Trustee Fast: Teresa, where do you suggest we speak to that?

[0:08:55] Trustee Fast: We can speak to that at 9.1.

[0:08:57] Trustee Fast: 9.1. Okay. So if you could bring that up then, Alex.

[0:09:01] Trustee Fast: And then

[0:09:01] Trustee Allen: another one is seasonal TUPs for summer employees in Hornby Island.

[0:09:09] Trustee Fast: Okay. And would that relate to the email from Tony Law? That's 10.1?

[0:09:15] Trustee Fast: Email

[0:09:16] Trustee Allen: from Tony Law and various tons of people I've received on that.

[0:09:21] Trustee Fast: Okay so do you want to speak about it at 10.1 because that's where people would be expecting

[0:09:26] Trustee Fast: to that now if they're looking at the timing okay and yeah

[0:09:32] Trustee Allen: oh yeah oh yeah sorry I wasn't I'm never

[0:09:33] Trustee Allen: sure what the correspondence we just receive it or or it has to be new business so I'm always

[0:09:38] Trustee Allen: confused about that so I

[0:09:39] Trustee Fast: think what we do is we we I ask if anybody wants to talk about any of the

[0:09:45] Trustee Fast: letters that are in the correspondence section uh do we need to discuss them and that's when

[0:09:49] Trustee Fast: you could bring it up

[0:09:50] Trustee Allen: all right okay good thank you anything

[0:09:53] Trustee Fast: from you read

[0:09:59] Trustee Scott: it out there

[0:10:01] Trustee Scott: is

[0:10:02] Trustee Fast: there anything you wish to add to the agenda uh

[0:10:06] Trustee Scott: me grant no no thank you okay

[0:10:10] Trustee Fast: oh i'm having internet trouble shoot uh just a second here hey will i'm having unstable internet

[0:10:19] Trustee Fast: that is there anything

[0:10:20] Trustee Fast: I can do okay thank you all right if I need to please let me know and I

[0:10:26] Trustee Fast: will call in uh if I have to to this meeting can you hear me excuse

[0:10:33] Trustee Scott: me we're usually just fine if

[0:10:36] Trustee Scott: you stop your video your audio works fine you don't have to phone in excuse me yeah that would

[0:10:44] Voice 2: be my recommendation as well if you're finding you're unstable start by just turning off your

[0:10:49] Voice 2: video and going with audio only thank

[0:10:52] Trustee Fast: you I think I've been spoiled but just recently I've been

[0:10:55] Trustee Fast: starting to have some of these um problems so uh thanks for reminding me and um I think I'm just

[0:11:02] Trustee Fast: going to do that right now and then um carry on okay so I'm going to uh suggest that we um

[0:11:12] Trustee Fast: approve the agenda then as amended uh can we do that by general consent thank you great

[0:11:21] Trustee Fast: Great, one, two, three hands went up, so that passes.

[0:11:24] Trustee Fast: We've approved the agenda.

[0:11:29] Trustee Fast: Trustee reports, who would like to start

[0:11:33] Trustee Fast: in terms of what you've been up to over the past few months

[0:11:35] Trustee Fast: since our last meeting?

[0:11:38] Trustee Scott: Or Alex is the senior of the two of us.

[0:11:40] Trustee Fast: Oh, I can see you pointing at each other.

[0:11:43] Trustee Scott: Well, you're older than me.

[0:11:45] Trustee Scott: All right, I'll go first then.

[0:11:47] Trustee Fast: Okay.

[0:11:50] Trustee Scott: the big issue on hornby of course is is the thatch and um the silence is deafening with

[0:11:58] Trustee Scott: pretty much no other way of putting it um there's no work going on down there

[0:12:03] Trustee Scott: um the last we heard there was a voluntary shutdown by uh the owner and uh and then

[0:12:11] Trustee Scott: apparently the minister responsible for the arc branch i can't remember her name but she was up

[0:12:16] Trustee Scott: here on on the 14th and they reviewed the site with uh chief rempel uh so what came out of all

[0:12:23] Trustee Scott: of that um we don't know so uh i was going to ask heather if if you i don't know if anywhere on the

[0:12:31] Trustee Scott: agenda to put it but if you have any any more knowledge about that what's going on down at

[0:12:38] Trustee Scott: thatch than we do and i didn't suspect you did you're shaking your head so that's that's fine

[0:12:43] Trustee Scott: that's a good answer so we'll just have to wait it's beyond all of us i think it's the province

[0:12:47] Trustee Scott: dealing directly with the first nation and there's a number of things that could go on there they may

[0:12:54] Trustee Scott: be talking about who knows i shouldn't speculate uh but people are constantly asking me what's

[0:12:59] Trustee Scott: going on down at the sash and uh there's both sides of it we need our pub back we need the

[0:13:06] Trustee Scott: restaurant back and then there's the other side that say do we really want a pub the first thing

[0:13:10] Trustee Scott: people see coming on a hornby so it's a it's a very controversial issue uh the short-term

[0:13:16] Trustee Scott: vacation rentals ones of course is is uh is one that just carries on it's a very serious one and

[0:13:22] Trustee Scott: so you know the apc is taking taking a look at that now and i'll speak to the apc in a second

[0:13:30] Trustee Scott: here and the other one um and i think this is the one alex mentioned which i'm glad it

[0:13:36] Trustee Scott: hit put on later alex the other way you did that that's good just that lack of of uh permanent

[0:13:42] Trustee Scott: housing for people on the island especially younger people working people that want to

[0:13:47] Trustee Scott: come in there well they're here they're working it's just amazing that you can walk the beaches

[0:13:53] Trustee Scott: in the winter time and 50 of the houses are empty and yet people can't find a place to live they're

[0:13:58] Trustee Scott: They're just, you know, it's quite, it's disconcerting to a lot of people.

[0:14:04] Trustee Scott: I just want to thank the APC for the hard work they're doing.

[0:14:08] Trustee Scott: I think they're doing a really good job.

[0:14:10] Trustee Scott: They've taken on a new task.

[0:14:13] Trustee Scott: Wendy Burton, the chair, I think is doing a superlative job, as all of them are.

[0:14:19] Trustee Scott: And Daniel Siegel, who was the chair and a very active member, he's stepping down to go on the Hornby Island rate payers.

[0:14:28] Trustee Scott: who was elected the president at recent meetings so he's stepping down but we'll stay active so

[0:14:34] Trustee Scott: that's that's all good and i want to also thank the staff heather and your folks for for i see

[0:14:41] Trustee Scott: you at the last meeting for uh just being helpful and making that whole thing work it's really going

[0:14:46] Trustee Scott: very well and people really appreciate about it so thank you so that's my report thank you grant

[0:14:55] Trustee Fast: and uh that's great and over to you uh alex can you tell us what's a trustee alan go ahead

[0:15:04] Trustee Allen: um well i haven't really attended anything um but i will say i've had many one-on-one

[0:15:10] Trustee Allen: conversations with people in the community uh a lot which is really interesting a lot of people

[0:15:15] Trustee Allen: want to talk about concerns one-on-one in their backyards and um you know from housing housing

[0:15:22] Trustee Allen: Housing options that are, like, I've had a lot of good ideas from people in the community.

[0:15:27] Trustee Allen: And, of course, things are excruciatingly slow in terms of process of getting, you know, to fruition with many of our ideas.

[0:15:38] Trustee Allen: Vacation rental infractions, of course, as Grant mentioned, lots of concerns about considering also COVID and people are still renting out there.

[0:15:49] Trustee Allen: and of course visitors to our islands

[0:15:50] Trustee Allen: I've had many people really concerned

[0:15:52] Trustee Allen: especially here we are on our long weekend

[0:15:54] Trustee Allen: and I already went out earlier this morning

[0:15:57] Trustee Allen: to take the dog out

[0:15:58] Trustee Allen: and saw a lot of vehicles arriving

[0:16:00] Trustee Allen: with the proverbial bicycle

[0:16:03] Trustee Allen: in the back of the pickup truck

[0:16:03] Trustee Allen: so I'm not sure what it's going to be like this weekend

[0:16:06] Trustee Allen: it'll be very interesting

[0:16:08] Trustee Allen: and then I'd like to add

[0:16:10] Trustee Allen: I've had a lot of people having issues

[0:16:12] Trustee Allen: and me too with the new website

[0:16:13] Trustee Allen: I find it really cumbersome

[0:16:16] Trustee Allen: I find it very um and I'm speaking for other people too like you scroll down scroll down

[0:16:20] Trustee Allen: scroll down scroll down on the first page I love that how do I that thing it's yeah it's very um

[0:16:27] Trustee Allen: it's not very intuitive frankly um and so I'd like to I don't know whether we're going to discuss

[0:16:33] Trustee Allen: that at the trust council or what's happening there but um I do have issues and so a lot of

[0:16:39] Trustee Allen: other people and I'd like to know whether Sue Ellen you've heard from other people

[0:16:42] Trustee Allen: and other islands that are having issues with the new website.

[0:16:46] Trustee Allen: But it looks great, but it's not as easy to navigate as the one before.

[0:16:52] Trustee Allen: So that's my report.

[0:16:53] Trustee Fast: Thank you.

[0:16:54] Trustee Fast: Yeah, there is a – regarding the website and your question,

[0:16:58] Trustee Fast: no, I haven't heard from anybody else who's having difficulty with it.

[0:17:02] Trustee Fast: But then it's only been – it's just a soft launch,

[0:17:04] Trustee Fast: and it's just been up for a few weeks now.

[0:17:07] Trustee Fast: and um anybody can send uh any feedback to web comments all one word at islandstrust.bc.ca

[0:17:18] Trustee Fast: and uh that's just uh with any suggestions or or problems or feedback that you've got

[0:17:25] Trustee Fast: because there's ongoing tweaking uh the point is to make it uh work for everybody i really like

[0:17:32] Trustee Fast: that the islands trust conservancy is built into it now so it's a little more um uh people can see

[0:17:38] Trustee Fast: the conservation work that the trust does as well uh but i can see that it once you're used to

[0:17:43] Trustee Fast: something it takes a little while to get used to the next and maybe there's um changes that

[0:17:48] Trustee Fast: can be made so suggestions welcome um okay i'll just uh if are you finished alex yeah okay i'll

[0:17:57] Trustee Fast: go on with mine um um as a chair uh since our last trust committee i've had a couple of executive

[0:18:06] Trustee Fast: committee meetings this is when uh the three vice vice chairs and the chair of the islands trust

[0:18:12] Trustee Fast: meet with the cao and a couple of senior staff and uh and we um prepare for the next trust council

[0:18:19] Trustee Fast: and we run the sort of day-to-day uh running of the ship i guess you could say so we meet once a

[0:18:24] Trustee Fast: week and but most of them are just by phone call on a Wednesday morning and but I've had a couple

[0:18:32] Trustee Fast: of the bigger meetings as well as we prepare the agenda so now if you look at 14.2 in the agenda

[0:18:43] Trustee Fast: it shows you that the the trust council a rough schedule is there so you people can see that you

[0:18:51] Trustee Fast: can speak uh town hall will be on the tuesday evening um tuesday evening june the 8th and then

[0:19:03] Trustee Fast: june the 9th and thursday june the 10th are also trust council dates so people can see what we're

[0:19:09] Trustee Fast: going to be talking about that kind of thing um i don't think the whole agenda is up yet but

[0:19:13] Trustee Fast: the announcement's there um and then uh i had a look at the freshwater strategy by it by uh

[0:19:22] Trustee Fast: attending a meeting of the regional planning committee BIM council meetings of course Bowen

[0:19:28] Trustee Fast: Island municipality council meetings next week I've got an islands trust conservancy meeting

[0:19:33] Trustee Fast: which will be great lots happening there and next week I also have the association of Vancouver

[0:19:40] Trustee Fast: Island and coastal communities meeting that'll be online as well and and if you look at 4.3

[0:19:53] Trustee Fast: um you'll see another news release about the surge in development applications slowing the

[0:19:59] Trustee Fast: processing time at islands trust and i just wanted to put this on the agenda so people knew

[0:20:03] Trustee Fast: what's happening it may be partly due to covid um but it's uh the same all over the trust area

[0:20:10] Trustee Fast: um that this uh this surge in applications is coming uh flooding over our uh planning staff

[0:20:18] Trustee Fast: staff so it just so people are prepared and um get your applications in early if if that's

[0:20:25] Trustee Fast: something that you're going to be doing um also uh interestingly in that press release you'll see

[0:20:32] Trustee Fast: that uh islands trust conservancy proposals for conservation covenants and donations and things

[0:20:39] Trustee Fast: is also uh up um which is a delightful kind of problem to have so that's my little report and

[0:20:46] Trustee Fast: And I think Daniel Arbour couldn't be with us today,

[0:20:49] Trustee Fast: our regional district director.

[0:20:51] Trustee Fast: So we're just gonna move on to the town hall session.

[0:20:55] Trustee Fast: So this is where I'll click over

[0:20:57] Trustee Fast: to the attendees list there.

[0:20:59] Trustee Fast: And people have, if you can direct your comments

[0:21:04] Trustee Fast: and questions to the elected trustees.

[0:21:08] Trustee Fast: And this is an opportunity that everybody gets

[0:21:10] Trustee Fast: to have your say, inform us about things

[0:21:14] Trustee Fast: that we need to know about.

[0:21:16] Trustee Fast: out and um your point of view and uh we're going to listen so we've got um um 10 minutes on the

[0:21:25] Trustee Fast: agenda for this and if anybody would like to speak please raise your digital hand uh there'll be a

[0:21:30] Trustee Fast: little hand signal or you can uh do star nine i believe it is uh if you're on a phone and i'm not

[0:21:40] Trustee Fast: seeing any hands go up today um to speak in town hall nobody oh there comes darren bond darren i'd

[0:21:56] Trustee Fast: be happy to let you um speak i'll just take a second for will hill uh well there we go okay

[0:22:02] Trustee Fast: talking permitted if you could just um confirm that you are darren bond and that you are not on

[0:22:08] Trustee Fast: somebody else's phone and uh and your connection with the island please go ahead

[0:22:12] Voice 3: yeah can you hear

[0:22:14] Voice 3: me now yeah great

[0:22:15] Voice 3: yeah i'm darren bond i'm on hornby island and um mostly here today to support

[0:22:21] Voice 3: if there's any questions back from you for the um any of the water stewardship items but there's

[0:22:25] Voice 3: one item i thought i would just raise that's separate from that and we are exploring as one

[0:22:31] Voice 3: of our little projects um some a roadside signage around drought levels so similarly with the way

[0:22:39] Voice 3: people know at the fire hall there's the big sign around fire hazards with the green yellow orange

[0:22:46] Voice 3: red you know so looking at something similar to that and the chief is fine with us having a sign

[0:22:52] Voice 3: along that same property so i've done quite a bit of research and can't seem to find any

[0:22:58] Voice 3: area that's had something similar so i did talk to the island trust planner and she put me in

[0:23:04] Voice 3: contact with ministry of transportation so i've been chatting with them about any signage and

[0:23:08] Voice 3: setbacks and all that kind of stuff so we're continuing with that and again try it as a pilot

[0:23:18] Voice 3: and see if it's well received or not there seems to be a pretty good linkage in people's minds when

[0:23:24] Voice 3: you talk about the relationship of drought and groundwater levels with fire hazard and so really

[0:23:30] Voice 3: that's this that's pretty much it we also have a representative on the round table with the

[0:23:35] Voice 3: the freshwater strategy work that's going on.

[0:23:37] Voice 3: And I suggested that this might be an item for them

[0:23:40] Voice 3: if there's a possibility for a roadside signage standard

[0:23:44] Voice 3: across the Gulf Islands.

[0:23:45] Voice 3: So people might be used to seeing that green, yellow,

[0:23:49] Voice 3: orange, red warning, especially in the summer.

[0:23:52] Voice 3: And we'd be taking the coding for that

[0:23:55] Voice 3: from the provincial government that maintains a drought

[0:23:57] Voice 3: information portal for our areas.

[0:24:00] Voice 3: And so we wouldn't just be making it up ourselves.

[0:24:03] Voice 3: We'd be using that just as a way to make sure

[0:24:05] Voice 3: as people, residents, visitors are driving on the island, they can see the drought level that way.

[0:24:12] Voice 3: So I think that's about it.

[0:24:14] Trustee Fast: Thank you Darren and I'll just chime in quickly with we've been

[0:24:19] Trustee Fast: wrestling with that on Bowen Island. We have a sort of online version of that if you go under

[0:24:26] Trustee Fast: alerts dating back to 2015 when it was a really dry year but it's just online and I think if

[0:24:35] Trustee Fast: If you want to take a look in the 14.1, the Islands Trust Conservancy newsletter has a little bit about wildfire and protected areas as well.

[0:24:45] Trustee Fast: It might be useful.

[0:24:46] Trustee Fast: I don't know.

[0:24:46] Trustee Fast: Anybody got questions for the town hall speaker?

[0:24:51] Trustee Fast: Go ahead.

[0:24:52] Trustee Fast: Trustee Scott.

[0:24:54] Trustee Scott: Yeah, Darren, I think that's just a great idea, the signage.

[0:24:57] Trustee Scott: Just people seeing that, especially like, as you say, comparable to the forest fire rating.

[0:25:03] Trustee Scott: I mean, it really does affect people's thinking

[0:25:06] Trustee Scott: and what they do going down on the beach,

[0:25:08] Trustee Scott: lighting a fire and all the rest of it.

[0:25:09] Trustee Scott: So it's just a great idea, highly supportive.

[0:25:12] Trustee Scott: Thanks.

[0:25:13] Voice 3: Thanks.

[0:25:14] Voice 3: I know we put out brochures and things and online and stuff,

[0:25:17] Voice 3: but there's really nothing like having something there

[0:25:20] Voice 3: that reminds people as they're driving along

[0:25:22] Voice 3: and just kind of bang in their face.

[0:25:24] Voice 3: So that's where we thought we should pursue that one.

[0:25:26] Voice 3: Absolutely.

[0:25:27] Trustee Fast: Thank you.

[0:25:28] Trustee Fast: Trustee Allen?

[0:25:30] Trustee Allen: Yeah, I just want to echo what Grant said.

[0:25:32] Trustee Allen: Yeah, Darren, that's great.

[0:25:33] Trustee Allen: and Darren has been uh it's just been terrific and with the water stewardship in the island and uh

[0:25:39] Trustee Allen: you look a lot younger than I you sound but um some of us do and uh yeah so thank you and uh

[0:25:47] Trustee Allen: keep on keep on trucking I'm

[0:25:51] Trustee Fast: just going to chime in again I think I did see something like this

[0:25:54] Trustee Fast: Darren uh at um uh oh gosh when I think of it I'll let you know it was on um uh one of the

[0:26:05] Trustee Fast: penders I think where's the one that has the really dense subdivision that's north north

[0:26:11] Voice 1: pender north north pender magic lake magic

[0:26:14] Trustee Fast: lake that's the one I'm pretty sure they have something

[0:26:17] Trustee Fast: do you do you know William um

[0:26:20] Voice 1: yeah there's there's those on salt spring too they're often

[0:26:23] Voice 1: been used for conservation levels from the water purveyors so um as as summer occurs and

[0:26:32] Voice 1: androde is starting to occur they will increase their water rates into new conservation levels

[0:26:39] Voice 1: and so it's basically like a billboard with a slider and they'll slide from conservation level

[0:26:47] Voice 1: level um so north salt spring waterworks district has that and say with magic lake

[0:26:51] Voice 1: um and and so the the thing with um outside of those districts is that i mean a lot of people

[0:26:59] Voice 1: use them as a useful guide if you're if they're on a groundwater

[0:27:02] Voice 1: well on the islands but

[0:27:03] Voice 1: on hornby as we know there's there's no large surface water um water community water supply so

[0:27:11] Voice 1: So I think it's a great idea and the metrics can be used to identify for groundwater conservation

[0:27:21] Voice 1: because groundwater drought often occurs in September or October where the lakes are already

[0:27:30] Voice 1: filling up with new precipitation.

[0:27:31] Voice 1: So then the conservation levels go down.

[0:27:34] Voice 1: And also with the conservation levels, they're also looking at how much water is being used

[0:27:39] Voice 1: and in in those regions people go back to their other homes after the summer so then the water

[0:27:45] Voice 1: rate goes down so it's not so much a drought uh but it's a water system focused um scaling so i

[0:27:53] Voice 1: i'm i'm really encouraged by looking at it from a a drought perspective and a groundwater um

[0:27:59] Voice 1: like critical groundwater drought perspective i think it would be a different set of metrics

[0:28:06] Trustee Fast: Great. Well, thank you. And it looks like there's some good connections to be made. Thank you very

[0:28:11] Trustee Fast: much, Darren. Anybody

[0:28:12] Trustee Fast: else in the town hall would like to speak? Have your say? Not seeing any other

[0:28:20] Trustee Fast: hands go up. So thank you, then. Let's conclude the town hall session. And we don't have a

[0:28:27] Trustee Fast: delegation today. So we're down into the minutes of our last meeting. And any changes to the

[0:28:36] Trustee Fast: the minutes. We're on 6.1, which is page four of the agenda package for those following

[0:28:42] Trustee Fast: law. And any changes to the minutes, trustees? Seeing none, then can I have a motion to adopt

[0:28:55] Trustee Fast: the minutes? I'm seeing Alex's hand. How about you, Grant?

[0:29:00] Trustee Fast: I

[0:29:00] Trustee Allen: move that we... Oh, okay. Grant, my hand.

[0:29:05] Trustee Scott: Go ahead, Alex.

[0:29:07] Trustee Allen: Well, what...

[0:29:08] Trustee Allen: I think I heard Alex

[0:29:10] Trustee Fast: say, I

[0:29:11] Trustee Allen: move that we approve the draft minutes of the March 26, 2021 Hormiga Island Trust meeting.

[0:29:23] Trustee Fast: Thank you. Do I have a seconder? Thank you, Grant. Any discussion? All in favor? Thank you. That's three hands went up for Catherine, the recorder back there. Thank you.

[0:29:33] Trustee Fast: and um we've got uh 6.2 is a resolution without meeting uh report so this was a resolution passed

[0:29:42] Trustee Fast: by email for a letter of support and we did this over email but we want to report it to you

[0:29:48] Trustee Fast: um and so that's what's on page 15 of uh of the agenda and just like any other um uh business

[0:29:58] Trustee Fast: of the

[0:30:00] Trustee Fast: local trust committee we have to agree whether that's what we said or not and uh this was from

[0:30:05] Trustee Fast: um i think you put this forward trustee allen and uh what what do you think can we um that's just

[0:30:15] Trustee Fast: for the record we don't have to adopt it but it's here for transparency and so everybody can see

[0:30:21] Trustee Fast: what we did um by email and then uh for receipt is 6.3 the advisory planning committee commission

[0:30:28] Trustee Fast: Commission minutes. And that's on pages 16 to 18. And thank you very much, Advisory Planning

[0:30:38] Trustee Fast: Committee Commission, doing some good work there. Okay, and we're moving on then to the follow-up

[0:30:48] Trustee Fast: action list. Page 19. These are things that are in the works. And if there are questions for the

[0:30:57] Trustee Fast: responsible people there or for the heather who's our planning manager regional planning manager

[0:31:03] Trustee Fast: then now's the time to ask them is the questions for the planning manager go ahead alex it's not

[0:31:09] Trustee Allen: really a question it's just on on page 21 the follow-up action report used to be there in more

[0:31:16] Trustee Allen: detail and you know when you just see it hotup 2020.3 or hodp 2021.1 can we just have a little

[0:31:24] Trustee Allen: bit more information not in the reports because we did used to it seems to have disappeared because

[0:31:29] Trustee Allen: then you go oh okay where's what is that i gotta go look somewhere else and so i was just wondering

[0:31:34] Trustee Allen: whether okay that's a

[0:31:38] Trustee Fast: suggestion yeah

[0:31:39] Trustee Allen: okay

[0:31:41] Trustee Fast: thank you yeah i admit as somebody who attends a number

[0:31:46] Trustee Fast: of ltc meetings i have to go and look them up so thank you uh any other questions for the planner

[0:31:53] Trustee Fast: or comments suggestions nope hearing that let's move on okay 7.2 this is uh this is our letter

[0:32:04] Trustee Fast: that we sent um and uh 27 page 27 to 28 and then on page 29 is the response we got and um so these

[0:32:15] Voice 1: are

[0:32:16] Trustee Fast: all here for uh everybody to see and uh is there any discussion trustees you wanted to have

[0:32:25] Trustee Allen: hello

[0:32:25] Trustee Fast: yep go ahead alex well

[0:32:27] Trustee Allen: just in the letter to us um in the one two three fourth paragraph

[0:32:34] Trustee Allen: last like once a decision by ndit has been made regarding the application and city west is notified

[0:32:39] Trustee Allen: as we notified we will ensure that someone from our ministry reaches out to you so

[0:32:43] Trustee Allen: as i guess it's a little early in the in the scheme of things in terms of reaching out so

[0:32:48] Trustee Allen: is that going to be us as a trust committee or is that going to be

[0:32:53] Trustee Allen: staff or how's that working is it going to be directed to us trust committees this uh

[0:32:59] Trustee Allen: reaching out from the ministry just curious it

[0:33:01] Trustee Fast: looks like because i wrote a

[0:33:03] Trustee Fast: letter it would

[0:33:04] Trustee Fast: come to the ltc um and um so that's what i'm hoping or that or that it would go to staff and

[0:33:12] Trustee Fast: they would forward it to us and um that's what i think it is this is partly because because it

[0:33:19] Trustee Fast: It sounded so positive there.

[0:33:21] Trustee Fast: This is partly why this item that came across my desk at the Bowen Island

[0:33:26] Trustee Fast: municipality, which is the survey from UBCM on internet speeds.

[0:33:32] Trustee Fast: And if you look in the chat box, this is where I had posted.

[0:33:38] Trustee Fast: I don't know if it's still there.

[0:33:40] Voice 10: My

[0:33:40] Trustee Fast: chat box is gone.

[0:33:43] Trustee Fast: There it is.

[0:33:47] Trustee Fast: And this is the map I sent around a couple of days ago,

[0:33:51] Trustee Fast: just showing internet speeds on Hornby and Denman Island was the map I pulled from the interactive

[0:33:58] Trustee Fast: Canada-wide map. The reason UBCM is, the Union of BC Municipalities is doing this survey

[0:34:05] Trustee Fast: is to give communities a chance to check whether the federal government has their internet speeds

[0:34:12] Trustee Fast: correct. Because if you have too much dark green on your map, apparently there are some communities

[0:34:20] Trustee Fast: whose grant funding has been turned down

[0:34:23] Trustee Fast: because the federal government believed

[0:34:25] Trustee Fast: that their internet speeds were good.

[0:34:27] Trustee Fast: So this is why I sent it to you,

[0:34:30] Trustee Fast: to see whether you or somebody in your community

[0:34:32] Trustee Fast: wants to check it or take the survey.

[0:34:35] Trustee Scott: Where's the map again, please?

[0:34:40] Trustee Fast: I think I printed it out.

[0:34:42] Trustee Fast: No, gosh, what did I do with it?

[0:34:45] Trustee Fast: It's this one.

[0:34:47] Trustee Fast: I don't know if you can see it, oops.

[0:34:49] Trustee Fast: I don't know if you

[0:34:50] Trustee Scott: can see it.

[0:34:50] Trustee Scott: email

[0:34:51] Trustee Fast: it was in the email that i sent

[0:34:53] Trustee Scott: could you could you send it to me again please yeah

[0:34:57] Trustee Fast: i will

[0:34:58] Trustee Fast: do there's nothing urgent about it i just wanted to bring it to you trustees and and the uh

[0:35:03] Trustee Fast: community's attention so in the chat are the links for anybody who's an attendee who might

[0:35:09] Trustee Fast: be interested in checking to see whether that uh internet speed um whether there's too much

[0:35:16] Trustee Fast: dark green on your map or not? Anyway. Did

[0:35:18] Trustee Scott: that map go to Karen Ross because she's kind of the...

[0:35:24] Trustee Fast: I'll send it to you again and you can forward it to her.

[0:35:26] Trustee Scott: Okay, I'll do that. Okay. Yeah.

[0:35:29] Trustee Fast: Sorry.

[0:35:31] Trustee Allen: Go ahead. I just did my internet speed and I'm at 0.40. 0.40. Okay.

[0:35:37] Trustee Allen: Okay. And which is, so

[0:35:42] Trustee Fast: you're marked on purple on the map and less than five. Anyway. Okay.

[0:35:49] Trustee Fast: Hopefully, I just, I just wanted to flag it as a useful resource. It shouldn't take up any time

[0:35:54] Trustee Fast: at this meeting. So I'll resend it to you, Grant.

[0:35:57] Trustee Scott: I just

[0:36:00] Trustee Fast: making myself a note. Okay. Okay. That's

[0:36:04] Trustee Fast: great then let's move on to 7.4 and um oops there is no 7.4 we're on to nothing in eight we're on

[0:36:16] Trustee Fast: to 9.1 this is the minimum average lot area amendments project and uh with us we've got

[0:36:23] Trustee Fast: uh planner teresa makikwa makikwa and um go ahead uh go ahead planner take it away um

[0:36:33] Voice 5: yeah so just

[0:36:34] Voice 5: a verbal update i didn't write a report for this because there's not a lot to um speak to you and

[0:36:41] Voice 5: in terms of updates but so at the march meeting the previous meeting both bylaw 166 i'm sorry

[0:36:47] Trustee Scott: can i interrupt you for a second where where are we have kind of 9

[0:36:51] Trustee Fast: .1 okay

[0:36:52] Trustee Scott: and

[0:36:53] Trustee Fast: uh so this we're

[0:36:54] Trustee Fast: getting a verbal update about the minimum average lot area requirements project what page is that

[0:37:01] Trustee Fast: It isn't a page. It's a verbal update.

[0:37:03] Trustee Scott: Oh, I see. Okay. Sorry.

[0:37:05] Trustee Fast: That's okay. I take your point. Go ahead, Teresa.

[0:37:09] Voice 5: So bylaw 166 and 167 were given first reading at the previous meeting.

[0:37:16] Voice 5: So since then, staff have referred both of the bylaws out to agencies and First Nations for review and comment.

[0:37:23] Voice 5: The deadline for agencies was May 19th.

[0:37:26] Voice 5: We received no comments from any of the agencies that we referred to.

[0:37:30] Voice 5: so the deadline has now passed for them.

[0:37:33] Voice 5: But the deadline for First Nations is until June 25th,

[0:37:37] Voice 5: so they still have time to respond.

[0:37:39] Voice 5: To date, Waiwakum, Wiwakai, and Cowichan tribes

[0:37:44] Voice 5: have responded with no comment.

[0:37:46] Voice 5: We have no replies from other First Nations yet.

[0:37:50] Voice 5: Consideration of second reading of the bylaws

[0:37:52] Voice 5: was originally planned for today's meeting,

[0:37:55] Voice 5: but because of the extended response time required

[0:37:59] Voice 5: required for First Nations. We've bumped that until the next meeting, July. So just to give

[0:38:05] Voice 5: you a sense of the timeline and next steps for this project, at the July meeting, staff

[0:38:11] Voice 5: are going to give a final report back to the LTC about any other referral responses that

[0:38:17] Voice 5: we've received. Then for bylaw 167, which is the LUB amendment, the public hearing requirement

[0:38:26] Voice 5: requirement will have been waived. So we can consider second and third reading and referral

[0:38:32] Voice 5: to EC for approval at the July meeting during the regular business meeting. And then following the

[0:38:40] Voice 5: regular business meeting, we can hold the CIM and the public hearing for bylaw 166, which is the

[0:38:47] Voice 5: OCP amendment. So we can hear from the public and then potentially do second and third reading or

[0:38:53] Voice 5: or even refer to EC and the

[0:38:55] Voice 5: ministry potentially as well.

[0:38:59] Voice 5: Okay, that's my verbal update.

[0:39:00] Voice 5: And I think Trustee Allen wanted to speak

[0:39:04] Voice 5: to some of the correspondence received.

[0:39:06] Trustee Fast: Yeah, thank you very much, Planner McEachor.

[0:39:10] Trustee Fast: And Grant, you've referring to, or sorry, Trustee Allen,

[0:39:15] Trustee Fast: you're referring to the letter that we got yesterday,

[0:39:17] Trustee Fast: I think it was.

[0:39:18] Trustee Fast: So it was too late to get into the agenda,

[0:39:20] Trustee Fast: But you wanted to raise an issue about it? See how it fits into the process? Go ahead.

[0:39:26] Trustee Allen: I think it's a very compelling argument. I've also got an email from a resident, a community member, and basically, has anybody had a chance to read that letter from Wiser Projects? Has anybody read this?

[0:39:44] Trustee Fast: I skimmed it really quickly Alex and I can't say that I'm prepared to speak to it today because

[0:39:49] Trustee Fast: we don't have it on the public agenda either yeah

[0:39:52] Trustee Allen: so basically I'll just cut to the chase and say

[0:39:54] Trustee Allen: that um I I think it's a it's a very minor change it's basically adding um an s and a and the word

[0:40:05] Trustee Allen: trail so basically um and I would like to put out as I'm going to propose that that the um there

[0:40:13] Trustee Allen: should be modification to the bylaw and should read smaller minimum lot sizes than is established

[0:40:21] Trustee Allen: within the land use bylaw may be considered if a portion of the subdivision is for the purpose of

[0:40:26] Trustee Allen: creating a park trail ecological reserve community land trust or other community service and there's

[0:40:34] Trustee Allen: many other islands that have got trail in that particular language and so and i would like it's

[0:40:43] Trustee Allen: in terms of we're not going to be doing the second reading this meeting it'll be in july i would like

[0:40:48] Trustee Allen: to um somehow either the staff to review this and see if this is going to be a major or extensive

[0:40:55] Trustee Allen: change basically it's a minor change to the ocp bylaw 166 and um remove second reading until

[0:41:03] Trustee Allen: we discuss this particular edition planner

[0:41:06] Trustee Fast: planner so yeah

[0:41:09] Voice 5: because i received it um just yesterday

[0:41:11] Voice 5: I also didn't give it the consideration that I probably should, so we can definitely address it in the staff report for the next meeting.

[0:41:21] Voice 5: Heather might have something else to add, too, but regardless, just to note that this piece of correspondence is posted on the website for the public to read before the public hearing as well.

[0:41:34] Trustee Fast: Good. That was quick. Go ahead, Heather.

[0:41:37] Trustee Fast: Yeah.

[0:41:38] Voice 7: So the letter that you got was reflective of some email correspondence that I had with a resident on the island, I think probably related to Ms. Weiser.

[0:41:54] Voice 7: And we actually did do some analysis of this particular issue in our staff reports, I think the one in January.

[0:42:03] Voice 7: We ended up not recommending it because the existing OCP policy says that subdivision, so lots should only be considered to be smaller than one hectare if the whole purpose of the subdivision is a park, right?

[0:42:22] Voice 7: It doesn't contemplate allowing residential to be on any of the lots in that subdivision.

[0:42:28] Voice 7: That's what the OCP policy sort of says.

[0:42:30] Voice 7: us. So what this is saying is that the request is that a subdivision could come in and you could

[0:42:41] Voice 7: have, and this was an extreme case, you could have 20 residential lots that are all smaller

[0:42:48] Voice 7: than one hectare, as long as one of the lots has a trail on it. And the trail doesn't, I mean,

[0:42:55] Voice 7: the way that the wording is proposed, the trail doesn't have to go anywhere, be connected to

[0:42:59] Voice 7: anything you know so so while it seems minor the wording seems minor the impact on the oc the lub

[0:43:09] Voice 7: and subdivision with it with on the island is actually it's a big deal it's it's actually a

[0:43:14] Voice 7: substantive policy change um because you're you're you're allowing for lots residential lots to be

[0:43:22] Voice 7: smaller than one hectare that's what that's the impact of it so if you if you if you want to

[0:43:30] Voice 7: consider that we we do recommend that you scale up your project um that you do have a public hearing

[0:43:37] Voice 7: on your land use bylaw that you do have staff analyze this particular issue and come back to

[0:43:44] Voice 7: you with a staff report but yeah we would definitely recommend that you would then go to

[0:43:49] Voice 7: public hearing and have a CIM and scope up the project on that because it's a big impact.

[0:43:57] Trustee Fast: Thank you and I'm just going to say we don't have it on the agenda today and I'm not prepared to

[0:44:03] Trustee Fast: speak to it. The planner has said that I don't think Grant is either and maybe and so I would

[0:44:09] Trustee Fast: just like to keep the discussion about this really brief because not all of us have had a chance to

[0:44:17] Trustee Fast: keep up with it go ahead grant scott well

[0:44:21] Trustee Scott: i'm just wondering heather that wouldn't be a good

[0:44:23] Trustee Scott: topic to refer to the apc because it um they're now looking at these kind of issues and uh i

[0:44:32] Trustee Scott: understand what you're saying because when i read the letter and i remember the conversation we had

[0:44:38] Trustee Scott: earlier yeah i'm not very clear on it at all so there's eight local people thinking about it there

[0:44:46] Trustee Scott: so I think it'd be good if we could refer to them. It could slow

[0:44:51] Trustee Fast: down the whole project, I expect,

[0:44:53] Trustee Fast: right?

[0:44:54] Trustee Allen: I disagree. I don't, I would prefer that we just, APCK has got a lot on their table as it is,

[0:45:01] Trustee Allen: I prefer this to be deferred to their next July meeting and have staff give us a little more

[0:45:07] Trustee Allen: detail about, you know, after they've read the letter. And there is a particular person that

[0:45:13] Trustee Allen: could speak to this, but we won't do it now, but I would like him to have a chance to speak to this

[0:45:17] Trustee Allen: at the next meeting in more detail what this is really all about well

[0:45:21] Trustee Fast: then let's get it on the

[0:45:23] Trustee Fast: agenda for when the july comes like uh planner my heat was talked about uh that gives a chance for

[0:45:31] Trustee Fast: the referrals to come in from first nations who are uh um got until june 25th and then um we'll

[0:45:39] Trustee Fast: have all of that referral uh background and any other letters and things that might come in as

[0:45:44] Trustee Fast: well and uh and then we'll be able to have it all in front of us and look at it together um with

[0:45:50] Trustee Fast: community members or anybody else who might like to speak at town hall as well so that sounds good

[0:45:54] Trustee Fast: trustee scott i

[0:45:56] Trustee Scott: think that makes sense that's good thanks alex great

[0:46:00] Voice 7: thank you for the go ahead

[0:46:02] Voice 7: heather this could make it a motion on that resolution i

[0:46:06] Trustee Allen: move i move that the hornby and

[0:46:09] Trustee Allen: local trust committee asked staff to consider to report on what do i how do i word it on the um

[0:46:22] Trustee Allen: recommend

[0:46:22] Trustee Scott: actions following the

[0:46:24] Trustee Allen: on the uh oh dear the wiser letter

[0:46:31] Trustee Allen: sorry yeah well on on the um

[0:46:38] Trustee Allen: oh boy okay just i guess just to say yeah let's just say the wiser the wiser project letter

[0:46:44] Trustee Allen: letter regarding MAL, MAL and report to us back in the July LTC meeting. Can I just hear that

[0:46:52] Trustee Allen: again? Because I'm sorry, very badly worded. Not good on the spot here.

[0:46:58] Trustee Fast: Catherine, if you captured

[0:47:00] Trustee Fast: that motion, could you read it back to us? She's probably typing madly. Am I? Oh,

[0:47:11] Voice 8: go ahead.

[0:47:12] Voice 8: I move that the Hornby Island LTC asks staff to consider and report on the Wiser Project letter regarding MAL for the upcoming July 25th meeting.

[0:47:32] Trustee Allen: And maybe we could reference the OCP Bylaw 166.

[0:47:39] Trustee Fast: Okay.

[0:47:40] Trustee Fast: I think it's MALA, which is the Minimum Average Law Area Amendments.

[0:47:47] Trustee Fast: Yeah, thank you, Carla.

[0:47:49] Trustee Fast: Okay. Excuse me one second. I've

[0:47:53] Trustee Fast: just got to close the door. One second. Sorry, there are many of us

[0:48:03] Trustee Fast: in the house. Okay, that's great. So we've got a motion on the floor. Is that what you wanted it

[0:48:11] Trustee Fast: to be, Alex? Okay. And do I have a seconder? I see Grant's hand is up. Any more discussion

[0:48:20] Trustee Fast: about this? Is this going to add work? I'd like to ask a question. Is this going to add significant

[0:48:25] Trustee Fast: work to staff that they consider this no I'm seeing the shake of head so that's

[0:48:31] Trustee Fast: it's good to have it clear though thank you this won't add a lot to staff's work

[0:48:37] Trustee Fast: and then I'll any more discussion then I'm gonna call the question all those in

[0:48:42] Trustee Fast: favor one two three hands went up so that passes unanimously thank you very

[0:48:47] Trustee Fast: much okay then we're gonna move on to 9.2 and this is the Hornby Island

[0:48:55] Trustee Fast: Drinking Water and Watershed Protection Projects.

[0:49:01] Trustee Fast: So this is the addendum.

[0:49:03] Trustee Fast: This is the other piece of the agenda.

[0:49:07] Trustee Fast: And if anybody is looking for it,

[0:49:09] Trustee Fast: it's at the website under Hornby Island Meeting today.

[0:49:12] Trustee Fast: It'll have the regular agenda and then also the addendum.

[0:49:18] Trustee Fast: So there's a written report,

[0:49:19] Trustee Fast: but also freshwater specialist William Shelba is here

[0:49:24] Trustee Fast: to present for our information and are you finding it Alex? Okay I'm I've lost Grant I'm

[0:49:42] Trustee Fast: just seeing that yeah Grant's still there okay so please take it away Specialist Sholba.

[0:49:49] Voice 1: Thanks thank you Chair and thank you to the LTC for having me speak to this.

[0:49:57] Voice 1: Yes. I don't have a presentation today, and I am not asking the LTC to make a decision.

[0:50:08] Voice 1: Largely, the staff report was presented for information, and so I encourage you,

[0:50:19] Voice 1: if you haven't read it in detail, that you can take the time over the coming weeks to review it.

[0:50:25] Voice 1: Um, so the, um, I guess I'll start with saying that Islands Trust received a, uh, $200,000

[0:50:36] Voice 1: grant from Healthy Watersheds Initiative, which was part of a large $27 million campaign promise

[0:50:45] Voice 1: from the NDP government in the last, um, election. And it is to facilitate, um, community driven

[0:50:53] Voice 1: driven work to protect watersheds.

[0:50:56] Voice 1: And there was a project team that was created around this

[0:51:01] Voice 1: that included myself and planner Chadwick.

[0:51:04] Voice 1: And it is a project of the regional planning committee.

[0:51:09] Voice 1: The majority of the funds are going to develop

[0:51:13] Voice 1: the freshwater sustainability strategy,

[0:51:15] Voice 1: which is a Federation wide strategy.

[0:51:17] Voice 1: And within that strategy,

[0:51:20] Voice 1: we have identified the need to have on-island demonstration implementation projects.

[0:51:27] Voice 1: And so there was only a handful of these projects selected.

[0:51:34] Voice 1: And Hornby Water Stewardship was one of the selected projects, if not like the lead runner.

[0:51:42] Voice 1: Another one is Laskiti, the Peet's Lake Water Users Society, as well as a small remediation and reclamation project on Salt Spring Island, and a heritage mapping project that is being undertaken with the help of our senior intergovernmental policy analyst, Lisa Wilcox.

[0:52:08] Voice 1: So, the amount of funds that was dedicated to the Hornby water stewardship started out at $25,000.

[0:52:23] Voice 1: I've retained some of those funds to hire a consultant to do a few GIS mapping projects that are going to relate to the work that is part of the project.

[0:52:35] Voice 1: so one of the projects was looking at the role of vegetation for recharge mapping

[0:52:44] Voice 1: and so we have just finished that work and my new student co-op

[0:52:54] Voice 1: student co-op person or watershed ecosystems technologist is the position Alex has been

[0:53:02] Voice 1: instrumental in in working on that and so we that has contributed to our knowledge of of groundwater

[0:53:10] Voice 1: recharge on on hornby which is really exciting and then also part of of that funds is to

[0:53:18] Voice 1: i hired a youth professional young professional to undertake some watershed resiliency mapping

[0:53:26] Voice 1: which is help which will help contribute to the to the project undertaken by the

[0:53:32] Voice 1: the Hornby Water Stewardship. So the, the, the crux of the Hornby Water Stewardship project,

[0:53:39] Voice 1: and they can speak to it better than I can, but I'll do my best, is a on-island water testing

[0:53:46] Voice 1: service. And this is largely to look at bacteriological issues. And they have been

[0:53:54] Voice 1: working on this for for several years now using these testing kits that um are uh that are largely

[0:54:03] Voice 1: um all uh the samples are completely handled on island and so the testing kits are used they put

[0:54:10] Voice 1: into an incubator and um and they grow the bacteria and then uh can see if there's bacteria

[0:54:17] Voice 1: in the sample um and we're looking at coliforms and e coli and the the starting of the testing

[0:54:23] Voice 1: service what had uh what do you call that humble beginnings who's in alex was so kind to to let

[0:54:31] Voice 1: the stewardship use the back of the co-op for a bit um and now they've expanded and and have

[0:54:37] Voice 1: secured in with the support of the healthy watersheds grant has secured a spot in the

[0:54:43] Voice 1: hornby spark in the old fire hall which is really great and um also the use of the funding will go

[0:54:51] Voice 1: to capital costs to buy testing kits to buy instrumentation for water quality and other

[0:55:00] Voice 1: things related to the testing like a new incubator and sterilizers and things like that sampling

[0:55:07] Voice 1: equipment and also the the grant is going to be used for securing their not a volunteer but

[0:55:17] Voice 1: but an employment position with the Hornby Water Stewardship

[0:55:21] Voice 1: and the testing service for 12 months.

[0:55:26] Voice 1: So that's really exciting too.

[0:55:27] Voice 1: And so the intention of the testing service in this project

[0:55:33] Voice 1: is to look at the pathways in which bacteria moves through the landscape.

[0:55:39] Voice 1: So the testing service before is looking at bacteria in wells.

[0:55:43] Voice 1: and so for this one we're going to look at ditches we're going to look at wetlands and

[0:55:48] Voice 1: we're going to look at streams to see where on the landscape this bacteria is coming from

[0:55:54] Voice 1: and to perhaps identify problematic areas and that in association with the watershed resiliency

[0:56:03] Voice 1: mapping might narrow down where there's issues with bacteria and so then that can

[0:56:07] Voice 1: and potentially help us mitigate the issue.

[0:56:12] Voice 1: Yeah, so it's all really exciting

[0:56:14] Voice 1: and it's such a pleasure to work

[0:56:18] Voice 1: with the Hornby Water Stewardship.

[0:56:19] Voice 1: I've been working with them

[0:56:21] Voice 1: since I started in my island's trust position

[0:56:23] Voice 1: and that's really supported by the LTC's role in that.

[0:56:27] Voice 1: And so I'd like to thank the current LTC

[0:56:29] Voice 1: and with helping facilitate this work

[0:56:35] Voice 1: and I don't know what else to say.

[0:56:41] Voice 1: Okay, thank you.

[0:56:43] Voice 1: Yeah, I'm open to taking questions, Chair.

[0:56:46] Voice 1: Perfect.

[0:56:47] Trustee Fast: Okay, thank you very much, Specialist Shulba.

[0:56:50] Trustee Fast: And Trustee Allen, have you got a question?

[0:56:53] Trustee Allen: Yeah, hey, thanks, William.

[0:56:55] Trustee Allen: Just on the first, in the background, third paragraph,

[0:56:59] Trustee Allen: you mentioned the jurisdictional complexity.

[0:57:05] Trustee Allen: complexity. No

[0:57:06] Trustee Allen: single agency has either the capacity or the legislative responsibility.

[0:57:11] Trustee Allen: Can you elaborate on that? I was assuming the Water Sustainability Act was kind of dealing with

[0:57:17] Trustee Allen: this. So could you just explain what are you referring to in terms of this? Sure. Limitations?

[0:57:23] Trustee Allen: Yeah,

[0:57:24] Voice 1: that's great. So the Water Sustainability Act does a really detailed job on addressing

[0:57:32] Voice 1: addressing non-domestic water uses so licensed groundwater wells for multi-family homes or

[0:57:41] Voice 1: agriculture and and the the implementation of of the water sustainability act has been

[0:57:51] Voice 1: patchy to say it lightly there has been the rollout hasn't been that smooth in the

[0:57:58] Voice 1: Islands Trust Area. The Water Sustainability Act does have the Groundwater Protection Regulation,

[0:58:05] Voice 1: which addresses the construction of groundwater wells, and so that's really helpful.

[0:58:14] Voice 1: But the management of domestic water wells is not in the purview of the Water Sustainability Act

[0:58:24] Voice 1: as it sits there can be area-based regulations that can be developed out of the water

[0:58:31] Voice 1: sustainability act but just like the the basic the basic version of the water sustainability act

[0:58:37] Voice 1: um essentially deems right to to domestic users and that's it and so it's each each domestic user

[0:58:45] Voice 1: gets 2 000 liters per day deemed right and in times of drought they have essential household

[0:58:50] Voice 1: hold the use of 25 liters uh per person so 25 liters sorry 250 liters per day per person yeah

[0:58:58] Voice 1: 250 liters per day per person so that or actually that's per dwelling i should say it's not per

[0:59:05] Voice 1: person um so so that's kind of like where the water sustainability act kind of stops for now

[0:59:11] Voice 1: with the domestics. The Drinking Water Protection Regulation, an act, ultimately

[0:59:24] Voice 1: assumes responsibility for safe drinking water in the province,

[0:59:28] Voice 1: but there's very limited direct regulation to domestic groundwater well users from that act

[0:59:37] Voice 1: and regulation. And then in the absence of the regional district of Comox, the Comox Regional

[0:59:45] Voice 1: District having any type of drinking water watershed protection program, they're largely

[0:59:50] Voice 1: like their jurisdiction is not concerned with domestic groundwater users. So there is a

[0:59:58] Voice 1: a jurisdictional

[1:00:00] Voice 1: gap there for the reasons that it's a privately managed public resource and so in order to ensure

[1:00:11] Voice 1: the sustainability of this public resource like every single domestic household that uses

[1:00:19] Voice 1: groundwater is involved and and so largely the our best tool to address that is education

[1:00:26] Voice 1: but another powerful tool is is doing the this on island monitoring that that the hornby water

[1:00:36] Voice 1: stewardship is carrying forward and then historically the province has done monitoring

[1:00:40] Voice 1: in the past like there was a there's a big push for monitoring in the early 2000s on hornby

[1:00:46] Voice 1: um so so there's there's an ability of of these agencies to participate for sure um

[1:00:56] Voice 1: But there's a jurisdictional gap with addressing these specific issues.

[1:01:04] Voice 1: However, under the Water Sustainability Act, there's a section that's called water objectives.

[1:01:11] Voice 1: And water objectives can lead to a area-based regulation that can be concerned about a watershed

[1:01:21] Voice 1: shed or an aquifer and address certain values or challenges within that watershed or aquifer

[1:01:28] Voice 1: and um island stress staff has had some really progressive conversations with uh the environment

[1:01:35] Voice 1: and climate change and that ministry name always escapes me ministry of environment and their

[1:01:44] Voice 1: policy analysts because they're they're developing a new policy for water objectives so this project

[1:01:50] Voice 1: project with the Hornby Water Stewardship continues on our exploration of the values of

[1:02:01] Voice 1: the water users of Hornby, but also taking a deep dive at some of these issues. It's without a doubt

[1:02:08] Voice 1: that there is bacteriological issues in groundwater wells, and we don't understand where the bacteria

[1:02:15] Voice 1: is coming from and we don't understand how how widespread it is so this is kind of like a

[1:02:22] Voice 1: reconnaissance project to to target areas on the island for for future work and and i i really want

[1:02:32] Voice 1: to um um demonstrate my my inspiration from dr john cox who has who has really taken the

[1:02:44] Voice 1: the recommendations from Dr. Diane Allen and from Flynnrow

[1:02:49] Voice 1: and has moved this project forward

[1:02:51] Voice 1: with the support of the Hornby Water Stewardship.

[1:02:54] Voice 1: And I just like, we're making progress

[1:02:56] Voice 1: on this very difficult and elusive problem.

[1:03:01] Voice 1: So I hope, I know I added to that Trustee Allen,

[1:03:06] Voice 1: but I hope I described the jurisdictional kind of gray zone

[1:03:10] Voice 1: that we're in with domestic wells

[1:03:12] Voice 1: as they relate to the uh like basically water drinking water safety on the island it's um yeah

[1:03:21] Voice 1: thank

[1:03:22] Trustee Fast: you yeah and i'll just chime in saying i was really interested to see your comment in the

[1:03:28] Trustee Fast: report about the effects of climate change uh potentially making this worse the issue worse

[1:03:36] Trustee Fast: or the issue more tricky to handle um anyway that was fascinating to see i hadn't thought about that

[1:03:42] Trustee Fast: that side of it was how the how climate change could affect the whole under the soil ecology

[1:03:49] Trustee Fast: and uh changes so

[1:03:51] Voice 1: yeah and and just to mention on that so we we have been taking a real um focus on

[1:03:58] Voice 1: the ecosystems um influence on groundwater and so uh we're like there's forecasting on

[1:04:07] Voice 1: on changing of species and and how ecosystems are going to change through climate

[1:04:11] Voice 1: climate um but the the one the one troubling aspect is the unknown unknowns so will climate

[1:04:21] Voice 1: increase deer population will climate increase sheep population on on luskete right and and

[1:04:28] Voice 1: or will it in or will climate increase the amount of mountain bikes on the mountain

[1:04:33] Voice 1: moving nutrient around you know i mean like there's there's uh several unknown unknowns

[1:04:39] Voice 1: unknowns that that can contribute to the source and often we want to chase the source of the

[1:04:45] Voice 1: problem and and i've encouraged the hornby water stewardship through this project to not be so

[1:04:51] Voice 1: focused on the source of the problem but like let's look at how the problem is moving around

[1:04:56] Voice 1: the island and then maybe we can mitigate it there so say in uh and and i i want to say that

[1:05:02] Voice 1: This was inspired from work that was happening on Hornby in the Sandpiper region where they looked at a stream that had E. coli and they put in nature-based solutions to increase just basically riprap and step pools to increase oxygenization of the ditches.

[1:05:23] Voice 1: and it was improving the situation and I thought well there's a hands-on way of mitigating the

[1:05:30] Voice 1: situation rather than chasing deer around on the mountain or something like that where we don't

[1:05:36] Voice 1: know that's actually what's happening so I'm encouraged that we can get some nature-based

[1:05:42] Voice 1: solutions in here to not only protect drinking water but also these streams and ditches are

[1:05:50] Voice 1: are pointed right at the beaches where there's recreation

[1:05:53] Voice 1: and Island Health does sample the recreational waters

[1:06:00] Voice 1: off the coast and the near shore,

[1:06:02] Voice 1: and there's bacteria there.

[1:06:04] Voice 1: So if we create constructed wetlands

[1:06:09] Voice 1: or more of these step pools and the ditches

[1:06:12] Voice 1: in future projects that might also contribute

[1:06:14] Voice 1: to the health of the near shore as well, so.

[1:06:17] Voice 1: Thank

[1:06:18] Trustee Fast: you. That was going to be my question is what kind of things can we do? Thank you very

[1:06:23] Trustee Fast: much. Trustee Scott, do you have questions for the specialist? Nope. Okay. Good. Well,

[1:06:33] Trustee Fast: this is great to hear about this. And I was wondering what was happening. So this is

[1:06:37] Trustee Fast: wonderful. Thank you very much. Freshwater Specialist William Shulba. And we will

[1:06:44] Trustee Fast: watch with interest what happens next.

[1:06:46] Trustee Fast: Yeah,

[1:06:47] Voice 1: so I'll be reporting back to the LTC when we move forward. Just to let you know, next steps is that we're, Island Stress will go into a contract agreement with the Hornby Water Stewardship, and I'm actually developing that this week.

[1:07:01] Voice 1: And so they should be getting some funding and the project should be going on. We need to present back to the funders by the end of the calendar year.

[1:07:10] Voice 1: so it's going to be a quite rapid project um but but the the impacts will last beyond december and

[1:07:19] Voice 1: and the the capital gains from the equipments and all that stuff will will be property of the

[1:07:25] Voice 1: water stewardship um and and i should just leave it off the water stewardship is um in care of the

[1:07:33] Voice 1: the Heron Rock Society.

[1:07:34] Voice 1: So they're the registered society

[1:07:38] Voice 1: that was able to accept the funds.

[1:07:43] Trustee Fast: Very good.

[1:07:44] Trustee Fast: Okay.

[1:07:44] Trustee Fast: Thank you very much.

[1:07:45] Trustee Fast: Thank you.

[1:07:46] Trustee Fast: Then, unless there's any more questions,

[1:07:50] Trustee Fast: which I'm not seeing,

[1:07:51] Trustee Fast: then we'll move on.

[1:07:52] Trustee Fast: Thank you very much,

[1:07:53] Trustee Fast: Specialist Shobha.

[1:07:57] Trustee Fast: Three, and this is adoption of the bylaws OCP,

[1:08:03] Trustee Fast: the housekeeping amendments.

[1:08:06] Trustee Fast: And Regional Planning Manager Heather Cowher is here to speak to this.

[1:08:10] Trustee Fast: Give us a little verbal update or what do you need us to do?

[1:08:13] Trustee Fast: Let us know.

[1:08:17] Voice 7: This is the final step in adopting these bylaws.

[1:08:20] Voice 7: These are the housekeeping bylaws for the OCP and the LUB.

[1:08:24] Voice 7: And they have gone to the EC for approval and they have gone to the ministry and have gotten approval there.

[1:08:32] Voice 7: So now it's just time to adopt it.

[1:08:35] Voice 7: and okay these are the motions that we're recommending for that thank

[1:08:40] Trustee Fast: you very much

[1:08:41] Trustee Fast: good so this is it's been all through the process for these housekeeping amendments

[1:08:45] Trustee Fast: which were uh typos and little changes and cleaning it up and updating things words and uh

[1:08:52] Trustee Fast: here it is in front of us it's been to the ministry has approved it executive committee

[1:08:58] Trustee Fast: has approved it which i'm part of and um that's great so this is the absolute final step and who

[1:09:05] Trustee Fast: who would like to make the motion?

[1:09:08] Trustee Fast: Go ahead, Trustee Allen.

[1:09:14] Trustee Allen: I move that Hornbeard Local Trust Committee

[1:09:16] Trustee Allen: by-law number 161 cited as Hornbeard

[1:09:19] Trustee Allen: and official community plan by-law 2014

[1:09:22] Trustee Allen: amendment number 1, 2019 be adopted.

[1:09:28] Trustee Allen: Can I do them twice together or separate?

[1:09:31] Trustee Allen: You can do them together.

[1:09:33] Trustee Allen: Okay.

[1:09:34] Trustee Allen: And move that Hornbeard Local Trust Committee

[1:09:37] Trustee Allen: by-law number 162 cited as Hornbeard Land Use by-law

[1:09:40] Trustee Allen: 2014 amendment number 1 2019 be adopted thank

[1:09:45] Trustee Fast: you do i have a seconder thank you grant scott has

[1:09:49] Trustee Fast: raised his hand any discussion hearing none i'll call the question all those in favor one two three

[1:09:58] Trustee Fast: hands go up that passes unanimously thank you very much uh heather car and um that's great to

[1:10:05] Trustee Fast: have that nice piece of work accomplished with a check mark beside it thank you very much and so

[1:10:11] Trustee Fast: So from this point on, they'll become part of the official land use bylaw and OCP, and we're just on to other projects.

[1:10:20] Trustee Fast: Great. So let's move on to correspondence now.

[1:10:23] Trustee Fast: We're on 10.1. This is page 32.

[1:10:26] Trustee Fast: This is the email from Tony Law or Anthony Law.

[1:10:31] Trustee Fast: And so page, whoops, I'm in the wrong part here.

[1:10:36] Trustee Fast: page 32 and uh i believe um alex you wanted to have some discussion about this so um we've got

[1:10:47] Trustee Fast: the letter in front of us we received it a little while ago i received a slightly different version

[1:10:51] Trustee Fast: by email but that's that's okay this was in the agenda it's perfect and um i'm wondering if uh

[1:10:59] Trustee Fast: uh what what would we like to discuss this i gather you wanted to start off alex

[1:11:05] Trustee Allen: yeah sorry i'm trying to where am i uh

[1:11:09] Trustee Fast: page 30 am

[1:11:11] Trustee Allen: i yeah it's my i don't have a mouse

[1:11:18] Trustee Fast: this is a good thing what kind of a mouse

[1:11:21] Trustee Allen: it's turned into a rat okay just

[1:11:25] Voice 10: a second here

[1:11:28] Trustee Allen: i'm trying to find something i just saved in word and it won't let me well basically i'll just

[1:11:34] Trustee Allen: Just to improvise here, many residents have sent me the very same article that Tony has referred to, and it is an issue on Hornby Island.

[1:11:48] Trustee Allen: At one point, like even the Thatch Hornby Island Resort, their new plans, they used to have a staff house, and the new plans did not have staff housing.

[1:11:58] Trustee Allen: I think even Seabreeze has got less staff housing.

[1:12:02] Trustee Allen: It's only maybe for one person where they used to have for more people since the fire at Seabreeze.

[1:12:08] Trustee Allen: So there seems to be definitely a lack of housing seasonally.

[1:12:14] Trustee Allen: So what New Hewlett has come up with is streamlined the temporary use permit intake for temporary seasonal workers with housing RVs in the summertime.

[1:12:23] Trustee Allen: time. I don't know how many people are familiar with this particular way of approaching seasonal

[1:12:32] Trustee Allen: dwellings. So basically it's fast tracking, but though I look at the timeline, and the timeline

[1:12:37] Trustee Allen: is very fast tracking. Application were open April 1st, two information sessions, second week of

[1:12:45] Trustee Allen: April, then an application review middle of April, then deadline end of April, middle of April 2,

[1:12:50] Trustee Allen: and then yeah so final it's it all was basically in a a month which is phenomenal um so i'm

[1:12:59] Trustee Allen: wondering whether how we can approach is whether we can get the staff to really look at this and

[1:13:06] Trustee Allen: see whether this could be a possibility for hornby in terms of making a temporary use permit

[1:13:11] Trustee Allen: application cheaper more affordable for this this particular approach for uh housing and um

[1:13:19] Trustee Allen: and whether there's any uptake in our community after that.

[1:13:22] Trustee Allen: So I'm just wondering where we can go with this,

[1:13:23] Trustee Allen: because I think this is a really terrific approach,

[1:13:29] Trustee Allen: especially in this COVID times,

[1:13:30] Trustee Allen: because it's unbelievable how many people are living in RVs

[1:13:34] Trustee Allen: and just nomad land.

[1:13:36] Trustee Allen: It's out there.

[1:13:36] Trustee Allen: It's everywhere.

[1:13:37] Trustee Allen: And so, yeah.

[1:13:40] Trustee Allen: So I'd just like to know how we could approach this

[1:13:42] Trustee Allen: and whether we could just have the staff do it,

[1:13:44] Trustee Allen: or are they too busy?

[1:13:46] Trustee Allen: Okay.

[1:13:47] Trustee Fast: Okay. Thank you. Thank you for bringing it up. And Grant, did you want to say something first? Go

[1:13:53] Trustee Fast: ahead. Can't hear you.

[1:14:04] Trustee Scott: Yeah. Can you hear me now? Yeah. Sorry. Well, I think this is within

[1:14:11] Trustee Scott: what we've asked the APC to do. And they have a timeline that's, you know, they want to get that

[1:14:18] Trustee Scott: work done fairly quickly. So I think this would be a good thing to refer to them as part of that

[1:14:22] Trustee Scott: that work that they're doing, because it's a direct link.

[1:14:26] Trustee Scott: I think for us to do something outside of what they're doing

[1:14:29] Trustee Scott: would kind of disrupt that process.

[1:14:32] Trustee Scott: So I'd like to suggest that we get Tony Law

[1:14:37] Trustee Scott: to basically take that letter for we send the letter

[1:14:42] Trustee Scott: to the APC and ask them to deal with it

[1:14:44] Trustee Scott: within their process.

[1:14:48] Trustee Fast: Okay, thank you.

[1:14:49] Trustee Fast: That's a suggestion.

[1:14:50] Trustee Fast: I'd like to see Heather, did you want to say something?

[1:14:59] Voice 7: that well i mean mostly i want to hear what yeah this is a possibility but um we could provide you

[1:15:07] Voice 7: some information about what whether or not we are able to do this kind of thing you know just kind

[1:15:12] Voice 7: of what it would take and how it would impact our resourcing and that sort of thing um one of the

[1:15:19] Voice 7: one of the things we deal with is our elected officials don't meet as often as city councilors

[1:15:24] Voice 7: you and so often that that's that's within the timelines right that um that has to be factored

[1:15:31] Voice 7: in but we could do an analysis a quick analysis of that go

[1:15:37] Trustee Fast: ahead trustee allen um

[1:15:39] Trustee Allen: but it it's not

[1:15:41] Trustee Allen: something we could get done for this summer obviously no this

[1:15:45] Trustee Fast: summer yeah well our next

[1:15:47] Trustee Fast: meeting isn't until uh july middle yeah

[1:15:50] Trustee Allen: but it's not something that would if we got rolling and

[1:15:54] Trustee Allen: a rock and a rolling it's not something that would happen this summer if we know you know

[1:15:59] Trustee Fast: on bowen island municipality we meet every two weeks um and things can move faster some

[1:16:04] Trustee Fast: municipalities meet even more often than that when they're really pushing something um but uh uh

[1:16:11] Trustee Fast: i'd like to know um why people haven't taken up the temporary use permit option uh that's there

[1:16:19] Trustee Fast: on hornby does anybody know go ahead well

[1:16:25] Trustee Fast: i

[1:16:27] Trustee Allen: just say we've even had secondary

[1:16:29] Trustee Allen: suites secondary housing nothing no uptake whatsoever and i i really don't know um okay

[1:16:35] Trustee Fast: no idea

[1:16:35] Trustee Fast: this is just a quick off the cuff i don't need to know what details but trustee scott well i

[1:16:40] Trustee Scott: think partly it's cost money and two it's temporary so people see that and they say why are why would

[1:16:47] Trustee Scott: would we invest in any kind of housing situation

[1:16:50] Trustee Scott: under those two conditions?

[1:16:53] Trustee Scott: So I think that's part of it.

[1:16:55] Trustee Scott: I actually spoke to Tony about it and he agreed

[1:16:57] Trustee Scott: that that's probably an impediment.

[1:17:02] Trustee Fast: Okay, thank you.

[1:17:03] Trustee Fast: Yeah, I just wondered as somebody from off island,

[1:17:07] Trustee Fast: it was my obvious question.

[1:17:10] Voice 10: So

[1:17:11] Trustee Fast: do we want to refer this letter to the APC

[1:17:18] Trustee Fast: as part of their project or would that be a separate project go ahead uh well

[1:17:24] Trustee Allen: can this be

[1:17:25] Trustee Allen: also referred to the lpc i mean apc excuse me and um staff at the same time they can talk about if

[1:17:33] Trustee Fast: you make two separate motions if

[1:17:35] Trustee Scott: i could um go ahead um

[1:17:39] Trustee Scott: since obviously it's not going to happen

[1:17:42] Trustee Scott: this summer so maybe we get heather's report as she described it and leave that question of the

[1:17:50] Trustee Scott: the APC till July.

[1:17:51] Trustee Scott: Heather, can I ask you that question?

[1:17:53] Trustee Scott: Do you think that makes sense?

[1:17:56] Trustee Scott: Yeah.

[1:17:56] Trustee Scott: She's nodding, okay.

[1:17:58] Trustee Fast: Yeah, so then

[1:18:00] Trustee Fast: we would go ahead, yeah.

[1:18:01] Trustee Scott: That would be my recommendation.

[1:18:03] Trustee Scott: Then we refer it to Heather's staff

[1:18:06] Trustee Scott: to recommend back to the July meeting.

[1:18:10] Trustee Scott: And we hold off on the APC till then.

[1:18:12] Trustee Scott: I've already asked Tony to send the letter to,

[1:18:15] Trustee Scott: I mean, they've already got it, so.

[1:18:18] Trustee Scott: So I think

[1:18:21] Trustee Fast: it makes sense to hear from staff.

[1:18:23] Trustee Fast: And so is that the motion that you made there, Grant?

[1:18:29] Trustee Scott: Kind of. Yeah, I sounded like it.

[1:18:32] Trustee Scott: I agree.

[1:18:34] Trustee Scott: Okay.

[1:18:35] Trustee Fast: Catherine, did you catch a motion out of that or do you need something clearer?

[1:18:41] Trustee Scott: Well, I.

[1:18:42] Trustee Fast: Yeah. Yeah,

[1:18:43] Voice 8: I've got the motion.

[1:18:45] Trustee Scott: Okay.

[1:18:45] Trustee Scott: Can

[1:18:45] Voice 8: you read it back to us?

[1:18:47] Voice 8: um that the hornby island ltc refer question of the temporary use permits for seasonal workers

[1:19:02] Voice 8: to the apc for the next july ltc meeting no

[1:19:08] Trustee Scott: no no no refer it to

[1:19:10] Trustee Scott: uh staff

[1:19:11] Trustee Scott: it

[1:19:13] Voice 8: won't be referred to the apc then just to staff yeah yeah okay yeah

[1:19:20] Trustee Scott: and then we'll decide

[1:19:22] Trustee Scott: it in July what we which way we're going to go with it okay I'll make that motion then I'll

[1:19:28] Trustee Fast: second that

[1:19:28] Trustee Scott: thank

[1:19:29] Trustee Fast: you and uh is that clear enough for you Heather yeah okay and uh any more

[1:19:35] Trustee Fast: discussion that's

[1:19:37] Trustee Allen: just like that approach thank you Grant great

[1:19:40] Trustee Fast: okay thank you then let's uh call

[1:19:42] Trustee Fast: the question all those in favor thank you one two three hands go up that's uh adopted that motion

[1:19:50] Trustee Fast: passes. And so that's great. Thank you very much, everybody. So moving on now to 10.2 and 10.3.

[1:20:00] Trustee Fast: I put these in the agenda more for information. They were just came through the email from the

[1:20:08] Trustee Fast: Peter Stockdale from the Council of BC Yacht Clubs. I don't know if he's staff. I think he's

[1:20:13] Trustee Fast: a volunteer. And I just thought you might be interested because looking at some of the images

[1:20:19] Trustee Fast: in his uh report in his first email there 10.2 um i could see some of the um 10 years that he was

[1:20:27] Trustee Fast: talking about were along the edge of hornby island and uh he brings up an interesting approach which

[1:20:33] Trustee Fast: is can't we just look at the polypropylene rope instead of uh just keep extending everything um

[1:20:39] Trustee Fast: and i wondered whether there i just wanted to bring these to your attention wondered if you

[1:20:44] Trustee Fast: had any discussion about them the second one is also from him it's about those oyster flip pouches

[1:20:50] Trustee Fast: and go ahead grant yeah

[1:20:53] Trustee Scott: i appreciate you sending us that information um what we've tended to do

[1:20:57] Trustee Scott: in the past is refer this to denman to adams yeah because

[1:21:02] Trustee Scott: it's a huge issue to them they're all over

[1:21:04] Trustee Scott: it yes we are

[1:21:05] Trustee Scott: yeah we support them in anything they do rather than us trying to great figure

[1:21:11] Trustee Scott: it

[1:21:11] Trustee Fast: out on our

[1:21:11] Trustee Scott: own we work with them on the beach cleanup and dealing with all that stuff so

[1:21:15] Trustee Scott: So I think it's well in hand.

[1:21:16] Trustee Fast: Okay, thank you.

[1:21:17] Trustee Fast: Cause I did take this to the Denman meeting

[1:21:20] Trustee Fast: and David trustee Critchley is going to take it

[1:21:24] Trustee Fast: to the Bain Sound Forum.

[1:21:26] Trustee Fast: And so maybe

[1:21:29] Trustee Scott: we could say we fully support

[1:21:34] Trustee Scott: Denman and David Critchley, whoever,

[1:21:37] Trustee Scott: and taking that to the Bain Sound Forum

[1:21:39] Trustee Scott: and support them in that initiative.

[1:21:41] Trustee Scott: it okay

[1:21:42] Trustee Fast: go ahead uh i'll i'll make a note of that if that's what we decide and uh trustee alan yeah

[1:21:50] Trustee Allen: i was i was going to voice the same thing grant said if we just wrote a letter of support and

[1:21:54] Trustee Allen: acknowledgement of what's going on and uh you know i walk the beaches we have the we're the same not

[1:22:00] Trustee Allen: as much as they do on damon but it's it's it's phenomenal the plastic and the oyster baskets and

[1:22:06] Trustee Allen: on and on and on those little

[1:22:08] Trustee Allen: those little pieces of polypropylene they're all this long they're

[1:22:12] Trustee Allen: everywhere it's just insane yeah it's

[1:22:14] Trustee Allen: just and i try and pick them up but then you just get

[1:22:16] Trustee Allen: discouraged and disillusioned and yeah

[1:22:18] Trustee Fast: thank you yeah i just i thought he had an interesting

[1:22:21] Trustee Fast: approach that like looking for the weak link the weakest link if that might be a place to start

[1:22:27] Trustee Fast: okay so what i'm hearing in then is that uh the hornby island ltc um uh write a letter of support

[1:22:35] Trustee Fast: to the denman island ltc uh regarding um taking items 10.2 and 10.3 to the bain sound forum

[1:22:45] Trustee Fast: sound good yep okay so i'll

[1:22:49] Trustee Fast: move that do i have a seconder

[1:22:51] Trustee Allen: second okay

[1:22:52] Trustee Fast: thank you and um we can do

[1:22:54] Trustee Fast: this by email i'll run it past you guys before i send it um and uh unless staff raise any objections

[1:23:01] Trustee Fast: Corrections then? Any more discussion? Okay, then I'll call the question. All those in favor? Thank you. And thank you for clarifying that for me. I just, I'm never quite sure. I just want to make sure you've got the information, as opposed to not thinking maybe they don't need it. Okay, thank you. Good. And then I'll do that.

[1:23:21] Trustee Fast: and i'll follow it up by email before i send it with you guys okay and then um annual report

[1:23:28] Trustee Fast: so now we're on to 11.1 and this is uh hornby related text this is on uh page 57 and 58

[1:23:37] Trustee Fast: um this is hornby related information that would go into the islands trusts uh annual report go

[1:23:43] Trustee Fast: ahead heather this

[1:23:46] Voice 7: is this is language kind of summarizing the work of the ltc over the last

[1:23:50] Voice 7: year and permits that have come in that have been reviewed by the LTC and by

[1:23:55] Voice 7: staff and then we just need your endorsement on the language for that and

[1:24:00] Voice 7: I can share the screen here you probably have it in front of you but this is the

[1:24:04] Voice 7: language that we're looking for and if you're if you're ready if you like this

[1:24:09] Voice 7: language you can just pass the motion and and say as presented as opposed to

[1:24:14] Voice 7: having to read it all out okay the

[1:24:17] Trustee Scott: only thing I was confused about it said

[1:24:19] Trustee Scott: to the Liskety Island Local Trust Committee at the top.

[1:24:23] Trustee Scott: So I got off on a, what the heck's that got to do with this?

[1:24:26] Trustee Scott: Sorry about that.

[1:24:28] Trustee Scott: That's just a typo, right?

[1:24:29] Trustee Scott: It is, yeah.

[1:24:30] Voice 7: Sorry about that.

[1:24:31] Trustee Scott: Yep, that's what I saw too.

[1:24:33] Voice 7: Okay.

[1:24:34] Trustee Scott: So to tell you the truth, I didn't look at it much

[1:24:36] Trustee Scott: after I saw Liskety at the top.

[1:24:38] Trustee Fast: Well, we've got time in this meeting.

[1:24:40] Trustee Fast: So let's just take a moment then to read it.

[1:24:44] Trustee Fast: It's just, it's only page 57

[1:24:48] Trustee Fast: because this will be the text

[1:24:53] Trustee Fast: that goes into the annual report.

[1:24:54] Trustee Fast: So it's a formal record document.

[1:24:58] Trustee Fast: Too much.

[1:25:14] Trustee Scott: The only, can I-

[1:25:16] Trustee Scott: Go

[1:25:16] Trustee Fast: ahead, Trustee Scott.

[1:25:19] Trustee Scott: The only, it is ongoing.

[1:25:22] Trustee Scott: I mean, particularly now,

[1:25:25] Trustee Scott: we've got the report

[1:25:26] Trustee Scott: that there's more and more applications coming in.

[1:25:30] Trustee Scott: There's what, double on Salt Spring

[1:25:33] Trustee Scott: and it's up by half on the Northern Highlands that I've read.

[1:25:37] Trustee Scott: And we don't have, you know, Heather, you haven't had any increase in staff,

[1:25:42] Trustee Scott: and I really think we've mentioned it at a lot of meetings about every letter

[1:25:48] Trustee Scott: that goes back to a proponent says we're having more than usual.

[1:25:54] Trustee Scott: Well, after a couple of years, it's not usual.

[1:25:57] Trustee Scott: It's just the way it is, and I don't think that's acceptable,

[1:26:01] Trustee Scott: And I wouldn't mind having a word in here, something about where would you put it, that LTC has brought up on occasions the length of time it takes to get applications through because it's a huge issue.

[1:26:17] Trustee Scott: People are always coming up to me and say, what are we even doing in the, you know, it takes so long to get things and blah, blah, blah.

[1:26:23] Trustee Scott: So I don't know, Heather, if you could put something in there like that, one sentence, put a little bomb under them in Victoria.

[1:26:29] Trustee Scott: I don't know if that works, but.

[1:26:31] Trustee Fast: I don't know if a report like this is the correct place, the best place to put a bomb.

[1:26:36] Trustee Scott: Where do we

[1:26:36] Trustee Scott: put the bomb?

[1:26:39] Trustee Scott: The rocket?

[1:26:41] Trustee Fast: I think you bring up a good point, Grant.

[1:26:44] Trustee Fast: And I'm just going to ask, Heather, would it be appropriate in a report like this, which is just about what has actually been completed and what staff have been doing,

[1:26:53] Trustee Fast: to put in a line about what percentage the applications have increased?

[1:27:00] Trustee Fast: or something like that yeah

[1:27:03] Voice 7: we could do that um we could put in a line that speaks to how much

[1:27:07] Voice 7: how yeah the how the volumes have increased we could do that okay

[1:27:13] Trustee Fast: i think that would be

[1:27:14] Trustee Fast: uh beneficial just in terms of because this is the record that people look back at years later

[1:27:21] Trustee Fast: um if

[1:27:22] Trustee Scott: i could just say there's one thing that and it's a little personal when i get those things

[1:27:29] Trustee Scott: from Victoria that tell me that where all these press releases and all this

[1:27:35] Trustee Scott: other stuff from all these things from all over about issues around the

[1:27:39] Trustee Scott: islands trust and I think we we've got that going on we don't have another

[1:27:42] Trustee Scott: planner I shake my head every time I see those emails so that's Heather or I mean

[1:27:49] Trustee Scott: Sue Ellen it's one of my

[1:27:51] Trustee Scott: little that's

[1:27:52] Trustee Fast: something to bring up at Trust Council

[1:27:54] Trustee Fast: I'm going

[1:27:55] Trustee Fast: to do that. I

[1:27:56] Trustee Scott: won't belabor that any further, but it's just, it's that whole planning.

[1:28:02] Trustee Fast: Well, like we just heard from our freshwater specialist, that education is the best tool for some of these things. And that's what some of those communications are. But I hear you. And Trust Council would be the place to bring those points up,

[1:28:19] Trustee Fast: Trustee Scott. Valid points.

[1:28:21] Trustee Fast: And so if I could hear Trustee Allen,

[1:28:27] Trustee Fast: did you have anything you wanted to bring?

[1:28:29] Voice 10: No.

[1:28:30] Trustee Fast: Okay, then if staff can add one line

[1:28:35] Trustee Fast: about the change in application volume,

[1:28:38] Trustee Fast: then I will move that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee

[1:28:42] Trustee Fast: endorsed the following text for inclusion

[1:28:45] Trustee Fast: in the 2020-21 annual report as amended

[1:28:53] Trustee Fast: for approval by the Islands Trust Council

[1:28:55] Trustee Fast: and submission to the Minister

[1:28:56] Trustee Fast: of Municipal Affairs and Housing.

[1:28:58] Trustee Fast: Will that work?

[1:28:59] Trustee Fast: Yeah, okay, good.

[1:29:00] Trustee Fast: And I'm seeing two hands up, second and thirded.

[1:29:03] Trustee Fast: Any discussion?

[1:29:05] Trustee Fast: I'll call the question.

[1:29:06] Trustee Fast: All those in favor?

[1:29:08] Trustee Fast: Okay, that passes unanimously.

[1:29:10] Trustee Fast: Thank you very much, trustees.

[1:29:14] Trustee Fast: And now we're on to reports.

[1:29:17] Trustee Fast: So I'll begin with 12.1 is the trust conservancy.

[1:29:23] Trustee Fast: and I'll just refer everybody to 14.1 for this and so that's starting on page 75

[1:29:32] Trustee Fast: this is because we're it's the Islands Trust Conservancy newsletter which comes out more

[1:29:37] Trustee Fast: often nowadays than it used to and so if you look at that one you'll see that it includes

[1:29:45] Trustee Fast: includes information like 30 nature reserves accomplished over 30 years conservation and 76

[1:29:54] Trustee Fast: conservation covenants if you scroll down there's some interesting stats about the amount of

[1:30:01] Trustee Fast: nature protection that's happening through the islands trust conservancy the other arm of the

[1:30:06] Trustee Fast: islands trust if you think about it that way and um uh and also there's a little bit in there about

[1:30:12] Trustee Fast: the sharp-tailed snake i would like to know where more of them are because they have been found in

[1:30:17] Trustee Fast: pemberton so they can't only be in the southern gulf islands where are they i want to see one

[1:30:23] Trustee Fast: and um also there's a profile there for uh any attendees or members of the community who might

[1:30:29] Trustee Fast: want to know more about the manager of um uh the islands trust conservancy because kate emmings is

[1:30:37] Trustee Fast: profiled there and if people have dreams for the land they want to leave it in a natural state for

[1:30:43] Trustee Fast: generations to come into the future uh kate is the one to get a hold of so i just wanted to flag that

[1:30:49] Trustee Fast: that with you and as in place

[1:30:55] Trustee Fast: of the honest trust conservancy report.

[1:30:57] Trustee Fast: Go ahead, trustee Scott.

[1:31:00] Trustee Scott: I thought it was a really well done newsletter.

[1:31:03] Trustee Scott: It was, I thought having Kate there

[1:31:06] Trustee Scott: with her son on the beach was, it's very effective.

[1:31:08] Trustee Scott: It makes it personal, but it's not, it wasn't,

[1:31:10] Trustee Scott: they didn't overdo it.

[1:31:12] Trustee Scott: I thought the little snake was a good,

[1:31:14] Trustee Scott: the whole thing was really well done.

[1:31:16] Trustee Scott: So I don't know how we do this,

[1:31:17] Trustee Scott: but thank them for it and just say it was well done i i

[1:31:21] Trustee Fast: will do and um i i just find um we we've

[1:31:26] Trustee Fast: done a whole uh sort of rejig of all of our um uh donation raising and friend making kind of uh

[1:31:38] Trustee Fast: side of the islands trust conservancy because we raised all the funds that we use for uh

[1:31:43] Trustee Fast: conservation acquisition taxpayer funds don't go into acquiring these just for the staff so

[1:31:52] Trustee Fast: we've as the islands trust conservancy we've changed all up all of the communication and

[1:31:59] Trustee Fast: that's why you're seeing it in a different format and coming out more often so i might

[1:32:04] Trustee Fast: be referring to these more often but i'll send your uh your thanks along uh to the staff they'll

[1:32:10] Trustee Fast: appreciate that great

[1:32:12] Trustee Scott: thank you uh

[1:32:13] Trustee Fast: any any other questions uh about the islands trust conservancy

[1:32:18] Trustee Fast: activities i'll

[1:32:20] Trustee Allen: just agree with sorry i'm just agreeing with

[1:32:25] Trustee Allen: i'm just agreeing with grant um sorry no it's really nicely presented i'm not sure why i really

[1:32:32] Trustee Allen: like this this particular newsletter way better than previous ones and probably was a little

[1:32:37] Trustee Allen: personal touch but not too not too cozy yeah it was good so yeah very good yeah thank you

[1:32:44] Trustee Fast: yeah we're trying to improve and and better target the outreach um to make more make it all more

[1:32:50] Trustee Fast: interesting and um i'll just uh let you know we've also got the species at risk we've got changes

[1:32:59] Trustee Fast: there's a new co-op student named devon who will be working um with the allen's trust conservancy

[1:33:05] Trustee Fast: this year uh this season and i believe we're bringing on a species at risk um staff person

[1:33:13] Trustee Fast: too uh through that grant funding that um we received so there'll be more changes to come

[1:33:19] Trustee Fast: and i'll keep you guys updated it's a great um i really like being a board member of that of the

[1:33:25] Trustee Fast: conservancy as well um okay so now we're on to the applications report uh page 59 questions for

[1:33:32] Trustee Fast: the planners if you scroll back to page 59 yeah so trustees if you have questions for the uh planner

[1:33:51] Trustee Fast: now is a good time to raise them

[1:33:57] Trustee Scott: i'd go ahead i do

[1:34:00] Trustee Scott: but i've got to wait through my notes here too

[1:34:04] Trustee Fast: okay i see that there's been an applicant advised to contact the archaeology branch and we know

[1:34:21] Trustee Fast: we've got um staff are doing some uh extra steps whenever there's a application i believe you've

[1:34:27] Trustee Fast: forward them on to the Comox First Nation now is that correct yeah yeah go ahead okay trustee

[1:34:33] Trustee Fast: sorry

[1:34:34] Trustee Allen: I actually I'm running in my battery's running low and I just have to run off and get

[1:34:39] Trustee Allen: an extension cord okay

[1:34:40] Trustee Fast: let's take a five minute break then and uh and come back together so we'll

[1:34:45] Trustee Fast: come back together at 11 40 okay thanks everybody little pause so

[1:39:02] Trustee Allen: Ellen can you send that um

[1:39:04] Trustee Allen: thing that you sent you had on the chat earlier to us again

[1:39:07] Trustee Allen: okay thanks i

[1:39:10] Trustee Fast: i will do i'm just uh

[1:39:12] Trustee Fast: noting that it's 11 40 so can i do that after the meeting sure

[1:39:16] Trustee Allen: no whenever later on yeah all right

[1:39:18] Trustee Fast: i'm just waiting for uh grant's microphone or camera to turn back on so that we know he's with

[1:39:24] Trustee Fast: us trustee scott if you're back there could you signal us that you're uh with us give him a couple

[1:39:53] Trustee Fast: minutes

[1:39:59] Voice 10: well

[1:40:13] Trustee Allen: let's have a let's have a conversation then um so what's what are you going to do for the

[1:40:18] Trustee Allen: weekend uh oh there he is okay

[1:40:19] Trustee Fast: there he is you knew that would bring him in okay great let's

[1:40:26] Trustee Fast: reconvene and uh so we're on item 12.2 the applications report um and here's a time to

[1:40:33] Trustee Fast: ask questions of the planner uh who's got questions for uh regional planning manager

[1:40:38] Trustee Fast: or heather car page 59 to 64 i

[1:40:44] Trustee Scott: gotta get myself reprogrammed here for a minute so if you're

[1:40:46] Trustee Scott: okay

[1:40:47] Trustee Fast: i

[1:40:48] Trustee Scott: do i did have i

[1:41:01] Trustee Fast: see the co-op you're waiting for your uh permit from

[1:41:05] Trustee Fast: apparently

[1:41:07] Trustee Allen: they've extended the um deadline till for next march apparently i thought

[1:41:15] Trustee Allen: march 2022 so i was like right there at the beginning last year so i

[1:41:22] Trustee Fast: guess i'm asking

[1:41:23] Trustee Fast: the question that of the applicant i guess i shouldn't be asking this one i should direct

[1:41:27] Trustee Fast: to the

[1:41:28] Trustee Scott: planner

[1:41:29] Trustee Fast: but i don't really have a question i'm just noticing things okay go ahead trustee

[1:41:32] Trustee Fast: scott uh

[1:41:34] Trustee Scott: i guess heather um what is it it's uh about jeremy payne that's um it's on page

[1:41:47] Trustee Fast: 64 64.

[1:41:48] Trustee Scott: for temporary seasonal truck it says planner completed review of sup application viha permit

[1:41:58] Trustee Scott: pending so what exactly planner requested update on pending conditions for issuance of tup could

[1:42:09] Trustee Scott: you just explain that further please there's so much there's so much uh controversy around this

[1:42:15] Trustee Scott: i just want to clearly understand what where we're at now and where it may go in the future

[1:42:20] Trustee Scott: So

[1:42:22] Voice 7: originally you saw the temporary use permit application and you proved it with conditions.

[1:42:29] Voice 7: So those conditions haven't fully been met yet.

[1:42:33] Voice 7: So those included that they had to get a siting and use permit and that they had to get permission from VEHA.

[1:42:43] Voice 7: VEHA

[1:42:43] Trustee Fast: is the health authority?

[1:42:45] Voice 7: That's the health authority, right?

[1:42:46] Voice 7: Yep, Vancouver Island Health Authority, sorry.

[1:42:49] Voice 7: And so once they have all the conditions met, their temporary use permit will be considered to have been issued.

[1:42:59] Voice 7: And from that time that they've met the conditions, then it'll be a year.

[1:43:04] Voice 7: It'll have been issued for a year.

[1:43:07] Voice 7: So they, yeah, the starting operations shouldn't happen until that is issued.

[1:43:16] Voice 7: um but once all those conditions are met they can well

[1:43:22] Trustee Scott: i understood that we issued

[1:43:25] Trustee Scott: the permit last june so yeah isn't for one year so that that presumably now is up and now now

[1:43:36] Trustee Scott: they're looking to renew it for another term the

[1:43:40] Voice 7: way that the the permit is written and the

[1:43:42] Voice 7: the conditions were such that issuance isn't effective

[1:43:47] Voice 7: until the conditions are met.

[1:43:50] Voice 7: And so, yes, that's right.

[1:43:52] Voice 7: The resolution was a year ago,

[1:43:54] Voice 7: but they still hadn't met all the conditions of the permit

[1:43:58] Voice 7: and they still haven't.

[1:44:00] Voice 7: So it won't be considered issued

[1:44:04] Voice 7: and that a year to start until those conditions are met.

[1:44:08] Voice 7: so

[1:44:08] Trustee Scott: so it doesn't actually come back to us again no it

[1:44:13] Trustee Fast: won't

[1:44:14] Trustee Scott: oh that's i'll

[1:44:17] Trustee Fast: i'll i'll jump in and

[1:44:18] Trustee Fast: let uh alex go ahead yeah

[1:44:22] Trustee Allen: i mean as you know heather i've already had little correspondence

[1:44:25] Trustee Allen: with you on this um the last 24 hours and um yeah i'm going to confuse because at may 7th

[1:44:31] Trustee Allen: says he's been issued a site news permit

[1:44:33] Voice 10: is that

[1:44:34] Trustee Allen: not correct and i don't understand why that

[1:44:36] Trustee Allen: That happened without reviewing what the temporary use permit was, whether he, what do you call it, followed all the conditions regarding the temporary use permit last year.

[1:44:48] Trustee Allen: And he just seems to automatically be given a site and use permit.

[1:44:51] Trustee Allen: And basically, he's open this weekend.

[1:44:53] Trustee Allen: He's being gung-ho and had about five staff who was building and doing all these things.

[1:44:58] Trustee Allen: And he's going to be open this weekend.

[1:45:00] Trustee Allen: So what I thought is he was approved and he's legally allowed to open.

[1:45:04] Trustee Allen: and so that's what I got from reading that site and use permit and that's what I sent to a person

[1:45:09] Trustee Allen: who had real concerns regarding the smoke which we didn't really get a chance to even see last

[1:45:14] Trustee Allen: summer because he was mostly elsewhere at another site so I'm just confused about this all.

[1:45:21] Voice 7: Yeah so siting and use permit anyone can apply for one of those separate from a temporary use

[1:45:27] Voice 7: permit. The siting and use permit is just to determine whether or not buildings on the site

[1:45:34] Voice 7: And I think in this particular case, I think it's a shipping container.

[1:45:38] Voice 7: It's a shipping container.

[1:45:40] Trustee Scott: He moved.

[1:45:41] Trustee Scott: He did satisfy that by moving the shipping container.

[1:45:46] Voice 7: He still needs a sighting and use permit for that, right?

[1:45:49] Voice 7: And so that sighting and use permit is sort of its own thing.

[1:45:54] Voice 7: It could be applied for and issued at any time unrelated to the temporary use permit.

[1:46:00] Voice 7: I don't get that.

[1:46:01] Voice 7: Yeah.

[1:46:02] Voice 7: Yeah, it's a separate kind of permit, and so the permit, and that gets reviewed by staff,

[1:46:14] Voice 7: and it's really just does the building meet the zoning, right?

[1:46:17] Voice 7: So it is a separate issue than the temporary use permit, except that in this case, the

[1:46:23] Voice 7: temporary use permit was applied for, and we said, oh, you also need a siting and use

[1:46:27] Voice 7: permit, and so they applied for the siting and use permit.

[1:46:31] Voice 7: they now have it issued.

[1:46:33] Voice 7: But just having that siting and use permit

[1:46:35] Voice 7: doesn't mean that they can start operating

[1:46:37] Voice 7: because they also need permission

[1:46:40] Voice 7: from Vancouver Island Health Authority

[1:46:42] Voice 7: according to the conditions of the temporary use permit.

[1:46:46] Voice 7: And so they shouldn't be starting operating

[1:46:50] Voice 7: until they receive that,

[1:46:52] Voice 7: until we've received confirmation of that.

[1:46:55] Trustee Scott: Mr. Scott?

[1:46:57] Voice 7: so

[1:46:58] Trustee Scott: that presumably that approval from v-haw will go to you

[1:47:05] Voice 7: right it'll go to staff so

[1:47:09] Trustee Scott: in the meantime what happens if he does open this weekend is he in but he's in violation of the

[1:47:14] Trustee Scott: temporary use permit right

[1:47:16] Voice 7: yes that's why it's

[1:47:20] Trustee Scott: because we're going

[1:47:21] Trustee Scott: to get out we are going to

[1:47:22] Trustee Scott: get asked yep every time we go to the co-op i go to the co-op if there's if it's open over there

[1:47:28] Trustee Scott: Whether I approve it or not is a totally separate issue.

[1:47:31] Trustee Scott: It doesn't matter.

[1:47:32] Trustee Scott: I'm going to do my personal thing on it.

[1:47:34] Trustee Scott: But people are going to want to know.

[1:47:36] Trustee Scott: And what I'm going to say to them then is if he, VHAW, has not approved it and therefore, as we understand it, he's not in compliance with the temporary use permit and he shouldn't be operating.

[1:47:53] Voice 7: That's right.

[1:47:53] Trustee Scott: Can we say that?

[1:47:55] Trustee Fast: Yep.

[1:47:55] Voice 7: That's accurate.

[1:47:57] Trustee Scott: Okay.

[1:47:57] Trustee Fast: Good.

[1:47:57] Trustee Fast: Thank you.

[1:47:58] Trustee Fast: Trustee Allen?

[1:47:59] Trustee Allen: But this is where it's confusing. I can see how Jeremy would interpret that the

[1:48:05] Trustee Allen: SUP allows him to go ahead. That's where I'm really confused regarding the TUP and the SUP,

[1:48:12] Trustee Allen: and it's just, I don't understand why they even made an issue to the SUP, because he's got a TUP.

[1:48:19] Trustee Allen: So it's just, so I can see where he could be confused and go be gung-ho. And I will say that

[1:48:24] Trustee Allen: The VHA guy came last week and did visit a few of those guys.

[1:48:30] Trustee Allen: I'm sure he must have visited Jeremy, but I'm not sure what transpired.

[1:48:33] Trustee Allen: But that was last week, and he did visit a lot of the food trucks.

[1:48:38] Trustee Allen: So what do we do?

[1:48:40] Trustee Allen: We just let him just carry on and do his thing this weekend.

[1:48:43] Trustee Fast: Would

[1:48:43] Trustee Allen: you like to

[1:48:44] Trustee Fast: ask staff to write him a letter clarifying the terms of the permits?

[1:48:50] Trustee Fast: I

[1:48:51] Trustee Allen: think that would be because I was just as confused about you know he's got a TEP but

[1:48:57] Trustee Allen: now he can apply for SEP it's separate so it doesn't matter that doesn't make sense to me at

[1:49:00] Trustee Allen: all

[1:49:00] Trustee Fast: yeah we haven't seen the um what a staff may have had other correspondence with him too but we

[1:49:06] Trustee Fast: could we could ask staff to do something like that I imagine I think I saw Heather nodding

[1:49:10] Trustee Fast: yeah

[1:49:11] Voice 7: if we haven't already I mean I'm I Jamie has been working on this file and I'm sure she's been

[1:49:16] Voice 7: in contact with him um and um but i can double check and see if if it's worth contacting him

[1:49:26] Voice 7: again today to just remind him of the conditions of the permit great okay trustee scott yes i think

[1:49:33] Trustee Scott: there's you've said two things there i think i support both of them first of all that you do

[1:49:37] Trustee Scott: send him a letter so that he's got it written and secondly you do phone him if you could

[1:49:44] Trustee Scott: it's friday i know it's a lousy thing you have to do friday afternoon but we could phone them

[1:49:48] Trustee Scott: on friday and just let them know that uh to be clear about the vha approval because we're going

[1:49:56] Trustee Scott: to get it over the weekend yeah well

[1:49:59] Trustee Fast: how about um we uh that the hornby island local trust committee

[1:50:03] Trustee Fast: um request staff to confirm uh that the that this applicant has um uh

[1:50:14] Trustee Scott: It's fully aware of the terms of his temporary use permit.

[1:50:19] Trustee Scott: Sorry.

[1:50:20] Trustee Fast: So are you moving that grant?

[1:50:22] Trustee Scott: Sure.

[1:50:23] Trustee Fast: Okay.

[1:50:24] Trustee Fast: Thank you.

[1:50:24] Trustee Scott: You just look like you're looking for words.

[1:50:26] Trustee Scott: So I just wondered.

[1:50:27] Trustee Fast: No, that's perfect.

[1:50:28] Trustee Fast: And I just prefer that it come from local trust committees.

[1:50:31] Trustee Fast: I'm just helping.

[1:50:32] Trustee Fast: Okay.

[1:50:34] Trustee Fast: Thank you.

[1:50:35] Trustee Fast: And any other discussion about this?

[1:50:40] Trustee Fast: Then let's call the question.

[1:50:41] Trustee Fast: All those in favor?

[1:50:43] Trustee Fast: Thank you.

[1:50:44] Trustee Fast: That's three hands went up.

[1:50:45] Trustee Fast: Thank you very much and thank you Heather. Any more questions for the planner on the

[1:50:50] Trustee Fast: applications in the applications report pages 59 to 64? Yeah. Grant?

[1:50:57] Trustee Scott: I'm waving my finger around

[1:50:59] Trustee Scott: here yeah. Now I got to find it again here it's the one about Brad's dad's land. Where was it?

[1:51:11] Trustee Scott: We're asking for information. It's not that it's not called that. Dixon

[1:51:18] Trustee Scott: properties. Yeah that's

[1:51:19] Trustee Scott: That's a

[1:51:19] Trustee Scott: Dixon property, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it.

[1:51:22] Trustee Scott: Yeah, I was.

[1:51:23] Trustee Scott: Where is it?

[1:51:24] Trustee Scott: It's on page. Oh, there it is.

[1:51:26] Trustee Fast: Page 60.

[1:51:28] Trustee Scott: Yeah, it says LCC Consideration Approved Staff Report

[1:51:35] Trustee Scott: requested additional information on the rezoning.

[1:51:41] Trustee Scott: So I just wonder where that's at.

[1:51:44] Trustee Scott: There was going to be a site,

[1:51:46] Trustee Scott: I would request a planner to go to the site,

[1:51:48] Trustee Scott: to take a look, see what's going on there.

[1:51:50] Trustee Scott: It was a number of different things to look at.

[1:51:55] Trustee Scott: So I just wondered where that's at.

[1:51:57] Trustee Scott: I think it was Jamie had that, didn't she?

[1:52:02] Trustee Scott: So I just wonder, Heather, where is it at?

[1:52:04] Trustee Scott: Go ahead, Heather.

[1:52:05] Voice 7: Yeah, we have been under guidance not to be doing site visits while the emergency order was in place.

[1:52:13] Voice 7: So Jamie hasn't been able to go do a site visit.

[1:52:16] Voice 7: There was also some requests by the LTC for the applicant to provide information.

[1:52:22] Voice 7: and the applicant hasn't been able to provide that yet.

[1:52:30] Voice 7: So we're waiting for both things.

[1:52:32] Voice 7: We're waiting for the applicant to provide information.

[1:52:35] Voice 7: Fair

[1:52:35] Trustee Scott: enough, it's not going anywhere

[1:52:36] Trustee Scott: until those two things happen, so fair enough.

[1:52:38] Voice 7: That's right.

[1:52:39] Trustee Allen: Good, thank you.

[1:52:40] Trustee Fast: Trustee Allen.

[1:52:42] Trustee Allen: Yeah, I was just going to follow up with Grant.

[1:52:43] Trustee Allen: So the applicant has responded to the requests

[1:52:46] Trustee Allen: at this point, but they have not followed up

[1:52:49] Trustee Allen: and given us the information.

[1:52:50] Trustee Allen: Is that what's going on right now?

[1:52:51] Trustee Allen: okay all

[1:52:53] Trustee Scott: right thank you

[1:52:53] Trustee Allen: so

[1:52:54] Trustee Scott: they're aware of what we're looking for though aren't they

[1:52:57] Trustee Fast: yes

[1:52:58] Trustee Scott: yeah okay good all right thank you okay

[1:53:01] Trustee Fast: any more questions for the planner

[1:53:03] Trustee Fast: about the applications no i'm seeing shaking heads okay then let's move on thank you heather

[1:53:08] Trustee Fast: oh

[1:53:09] Trustee Allen: sorry oh

[1:53:10] Trustee Fast: trustee allen there

[1:53:12] Trustee Allen: was a note about the in the last meeting notes that i'm going to

[1:53:15] Trustee Allen: be providing information i got by the way i talked to the person that provided me with 175 pages of

[1:53:20] Trustee Allen: background information on brad's dad's land and we're not paying for it she's paying for it and

[1:53:25] Trustee Allen: but i haven't managed to plow through it because it's sort of i knew that it was going to be coming

[1:53:30] Trustee Allen: up this meeting but i will forward it to the staff on the background and to everybody else

[1:53:37] Trustee Allen: okay that's all that

[1:53:39] Trustee Fast: sounds good thank you okay and um let's move on then if there's

[1:53:45] Trustee Fast: unless there's anything else we'll move on to 12.3 this is page 65 it's our expense report

[1:53:53] Trustee Fast: and i will just uh note that there is still time i believe to register for

[1:53:58] Trustee Fast: the association of vancouver island and coastal communities um but there is some money coming out

[1:54:06] Trustee Fast: of here for apc expenses and things like that i'm not promoting spending money i'm just saying

[1:54:10] Trustee Fast: now would be the time if you wanted to register for avicc which is next friday all day and a

[1:54:18] Trustee Fast: little bit thursday evening go ahead trustee scott uh

[1:54:22] Trustee Scott: i'm just to be clear i don't know how this

[1:54:26] Trustee Scott: thing actually it shows the apc is negative 736 but the balance we've got 3140 in there so i

[1:54:37] Trustee Scott: presume there's no limitation to the apc in this i'm not worried about the avic is that true i

[1:54:48] Voice 7: I wouldn't say there's no limit to it.

[1:54:51] Voice 7: No,

[1:54:51] Trustee Scott: that's not quite right.

[1:54:54] Trustee Scott: Yeah,

[1:54:55] Voice 7: if they go further into the negative, we don't have to do anything about it in the short term.

[1:55:03] Trustee Scott: Okay, so there's nothing stopping it from staff and you folks from engaging with them?

[1:55:09] Voice 7: No, other than it's not a top priority project.

[1:55:13] Voice 7: So we can still interact, but very limited support.

[1:55:17] Voice 10: Sure, okay.

[1:55:19] Voice 7: Yeah.

[1:55:21] Trustee Allen: They're doing great.

[1:55:22] Trustee Fast: Trustee Allen.

[1:55:24] Trustee Allen: Yeah, I was just gonna, just with Grant.

[1:55:25] Trustee Allen: So, you know, as it's negative,

[1:55:27] Trustee Allen: do we have to officially transfer money to the APC meetings

[1:55:31] Trustee Allen: or is it just gonna be automatically put in there?

[1:55:38] Voice 7: No, at this point, I understand you don't have to make,

[1:55:41] Voice 7: take any action on that.

[1:55:44] Voice 7: Somebody in finance eventually

[1:55:45] Voice 7: might ask about it.

[1:55:47] Voice 7: And at which point you may want to think about doing that.

[1:55:51] Trustee Scott: Pretty small potatoes.

[1:55:52] Trustee Scott: yeah yeah

[1:55:53] Trustee Fast: considering um financial planning committee uh was postponed because of staff

[1:56:01] Trustee Fast: shortages in in uh the office when they're trying to do the the annual audit and uh big things on

[1:56:08] Trustee Fast: their plate um not the not these uh smaller ones but i think it's for trustee information and let's

[1:56:16] Trustee Fast: keep an eye on it and uh so we're aware of what's going on i think more okay good question all right

[1:56:22] Trustee Fast: uh anything else with the um expense report no then we'll go on to the uh these are partly just

[1:56:32] Trustee Fast: for information this is 12.4 is our adopted policy 66 to page 66 to 70. go ahead trustee scott uh

[1:56:40] Trustee Fast: trustee allen um

[1:56:42] Trustee Allen: i requested the last meeting for the date to change it's still the um oh

[1:56:46] Trustee Fast: Number

[1:56:46] Trustee Allen: one resolution, it should be October 31st, 2022.

[1:56:50] Trustee Allen: It's still 2020.

[1:56:52] Trustee Allen: And I asked for that last meeting.

[1:56:54] Trustee Fast: Oh, you mean at the very top of page 66?

[1:56:57] Trustee Allen: At 66, and it should say, number three should say, expires on October 31st, 2022.

[1:57:06] Trustee Fast: Oh, number three.

[1:57:08] Trustee Allen: Yes.

[1:57:10] Voice 7: I thought that had gotten changed.

[1:57:12] Voice 7: I did make a note of that last time.

[1:57:15] Voice 7: I'm really sorry about that.

[1:57:16] Trustee Allen: Yes, so did I.

[1:57:17] Voice 7: i'll really make sure next time that it will say i'll

[1:57:20] Trustee Allen: be on it all right sorry

[1:57:24] Trustee Fast: that's good okay any other things there that need uh adjusting it looks like it might just

[1:57:32] Trustee Fast: be an old version heather because it does say updated november 6 2020 so it might just be the

[1:57:38] Trustee Fast: the wrong report yeah okay but we'll catch that next time and uh any other things for that one

[1:57:46] Trustee Fast: no okay then we're going to move on local trust committee web page i just left this on we've got

[1:57:52] Trustee Fast: this as a standing item and uh i'm wondering if at this point anybody wants to talk about the new

[1:58:01] Trustee Fast: website whether you have looked at the uh hornby local page do you care i'm seeing grant go grant

[1:58:09] Trustee Fast: No,

[1:58:09] Trustee Scott: I have a question. Can these techie folks ever make something simpler? Or is it beyond their mental whatever?

[1:58:20] Trustee Fast: Hey, hey,

[1:58:20] Trustee Fast: hey, these are our staff.

[1:58:24] Trustee Scott: It's not any staff that are here. So I apologize to the three techie people down in Victoria.

[1:58:32] Voice 10: But

[1:58:33] Trustee Scott: could they make things simpler so people can actually do this?

[1:58:38] Trustee Scott: if

[1:58:38] Trustee Fast: you have uh specific things that people are looking for um and not finding trustee alan

[1:58:53] Trustee Allen: well i found it really complicated i don't like the when you go on there you have to choose your

[1:58:57] Trustee Allen: location right away i don't and even when you choose your location then you have to choose it

[1:59:01] Trustee Allen: again and then and then when you're you're just trying to find uh where how you apply for

[1:59:07] Trustee Allen: development permit or whatever whatever it's it's really confusing and before was that i loved it

[1:59:12] Trustee Allen: when it's had that simple how do i you go down there by law enforcement apply for this well

[1:59:18] Trustee Allen: that's disappeared and even the first page you look at it you think okay that's it no it's like

[1:59:24] Trustee Allen: you can scroll down scroll down scroll down scroll down i know that because i'm trying to find the

[1:59:28] Trustee Allen: web mail and um i'm not sure whether people even scroll all the way down um so i mean it looks it's

[1:59:36] Trustee Allen: got all the bells and whistles but it's just not very user friendly and that's just i'm speaking

[1:59:41] Trustee Allen: for myself and a few other people have commented okay

[1:59:44] Trustee Fast: it does have that instead of the menu that

[1:59:48] Trustee Fast: you talked about this time it has one called i want to or yeah

[1:59:53] Trustee Allen: but still it doesn't i want to

[1:59:54] Trustee Allen: doesn't take you there oh it doesn't you want

[1:59:57] Trustee Fast: to be because

[1:59:58] Trustee Allen: you think when you clicked on

[2:00:00] Trustee Allen: on your location in Hornby Island,

[2:00:01] Trustee Allen: it would automatically keep you on there,

[2:00:02] Trustee Allen: but no, you keep on having to click on Hornby Island,

[2:00:04] Trustee Allen: and you just click on Hornby Island again,

[2:00:06] Trustee Allen: and then it's not even,

[2:00:08] Trustee Allen: it's not intuitive in terms of where the applications are

[2:00:11] Trustee Allen: or where you do this or do that.

[2:00:12] Trustee Allen: I mean, I could do more detail.

[2:00:13] Trustee Allen: This is more of a off

[2:00:15] Trustee Fast: the cuff comment.

[2:00:16] Trustee Fast: I think it would be really helpful if you sent an email,

[2:00:18] Trustee Fast: if you do have more detail,

[2:00:20] Trustee Fast: to webcomments at islandstrust.bc.ca.

[2:00:23] Trustee Fast: So that goes to Claire Freider,

[2:00:27] Trustee Fast: the the manager of um that project and uh all of the region-wide um projects right including

[2:00:35] Trustee Fast: island's trust conservancy and uh as well as to uh mark van bakel and whoever else is on the web team

[2:00:42] Trustee Fast: so um there would that's what this little period is for is to collect up that kind of input i think

[2:00:49] Trustee Fast: it's really valuable and uh i'd encourage you alex to send it in yeah

[2:00:53] Trustee Allen: and for those who that are

[2:00:55] Trustee Allen: are attending this meeting, if you have issues with the website, please do that too. Comment on

[2:01:02] Trustee Fast: it. Yeah,

[2:01:02] Trustee Fast: that would be great. Trustee Scott, did you have anything else there? Okay. All right. I

[2:01:09] Trustee Fast: just encourage everybody, help us make the website better because it's still in this kind of plastic

[2:01:15] Trustee Fast: state where we can make changes and the contracting company is still with us making those

[2:01:25] Trustee Fast: those changes um so uh let us know that'd be really helpful okay thank you and then um i think

[2:01:34] Trustee Fast: there is a local trust committee web page still and uh you might want to take a look at that maybe

[2:01:39] Trustee Fast: we can we'll just talk about this again at the next ltc meeting okay top priorities report page 71 to

[2:01:45] Trustee Fast: 72 um these are our top priorities and do we need to review them or not 71 and 72 comprehensive ocp

[2:01:56] Trustee Fast: review watershed protection and groundwater preservation and three amend the ocp and the

[2:02:02] Trustee Fast: lub rural residential land use designation um any comments about this or are we um we haven't

[2:02:12] Trustee Fast: made any big changes or passed anything here except uh the housekeeping and i don't think

[2:02:18] Trustee Fast: they're on there are they no it's the minimum lot area yeah so um i think we're probably okay

[2:02:28] Trustee Fast: with leaving this right okay good then let's move on to the projects lists page 73 and 74.

[2:02:40] Trustee Fast: these are our projects sort of a parking lot or a uh many things that we want to get to at some

[2:02:48] Trustee Fast: point waiting to move up into the top priorities as how i think of them currently but maybe i'm

[2:02:55] Trustee Fast: wrong um any comments no they're just parked

[2:03:02] Voice 10: no

[2:03:03] Trustee Fast: okay then we're just going to keep going and

[2:03:06] Trustee Fast: hopefully uh be finished in time for lunch um the next three things are the information items i've

[2:03:12] Voice 1: already

[2:03:12] Trustee Fast: referred to and um that's the uh news releases in the islands trust conservancy um

[2:03:23] Trustee Fast: newsletter and uh closed meeting none our next meeting is scheduled oh i thought it was the 20th

[2:03:29] Trustee Fast: is it July 16th let's just check I thought the Teresa said something else

[2:03:40] Trustee Fast: oops okay that's correct um go ahead trustee Allen yeah

[2:03:50] Trustee Allen: sorry I forgot to mention in terms of

[2:03:51] Trustee Allen: the website there's under our web dabs there's a great northern under and I don't know I click it

[2:03:58] Trustee Allen: and it's doesn't take you anywhere and I just wondered whether Heather file

[2:04:02] Trustee Fast: folder is Heather

[2:04:03] Trustee Fast: what is

[2:04:04] Trustee Allen: it great

[2:04:04] Trustee Fast: northern right northern it might be staff stuff that our passwords don't let us

[2:04:09] Trustee Fast: into i'm

[2:04:11] Voice 7: not quite sure you're talking about it's right under web dev under web web

[2:04:16] Trustee Fast: dev maybe we

[2:04:17] Trustee Fast: could do this offline if you want to send your screenshot or describe it to her in an email

[2:04:22] Trustee Fast: for a link okay great then because we're at 1205 and i'd like to just say the upcoming meeting is

[2:04:30] Trustee Fast: This regular meeting is scheduled for Friday, July 16th, 10 o'clock.

[2:04:35] Trustee Fast: Location to be determined, but I think it's back in the same Zoom room.

[2:04:39] Trustee Fast: Actually, it'll be a different Zoom room.

[2:04:41] Trustee Fast: So always check the links.

[2:04:42] Trustee Fast: They're always different.

[2:04:43] Trustee Fast: And I think that we're at a position now to adjourn this meeting.

[2:04:48] Trustee Fast: Thank you, everybody,

[2:04:49] Trustee Fast: for a good meeting.

[2:04:52] Trustee Fast: And for all the work, I know that it's happening behind the scenes in the staff offices and home offices and wherever.

[2:05:00] Trustee Fast: Trustee Scott.

[2:05:01] Trustee Scott: Heather, just thank everybody you work with down there.

[2:05:04] Trustee Scott: We appreciate all they do.

[2:05:05] Trustee Scott: It's not easy under the, I don't know how you do it.

[2:05:10] Trustee Fast: Very good, good.

[2:05:13] Trustee Fast: Okay, thank you everybody.

[2:05:14] Trustee Fast: And we'll see you July 16th, if not before in the email

[2:05:18] Trustee Fast: and I'll send you the email that I was gonna send you.

[2:05:20] Trustee Fast: Oh,

[2:05:20] Trustee Scott: Heather, I sent you that 7250, you know that address?

[2:05:24] Voice 7: Yes, yep, I got it and I'm on top of it.

[2:05:28] Trustee Scott: All right, thank you.

[2:05:28] Trustee Scott: All

[2:05:29] Voice 7: right, thank you.

[2:05:29] Voice 7: Okay. This

[2:05:30] Voice 7: meeting is adjourned.

[2:05:32] Trustee Fast: Thank you, everybody.

[2:05:33] Trustee Fast: Thanks, Helen. Take care.

[2:05:34] Trustee Allen: Thanks, Helen. Have a long weekend.

[2:05:36] Trustee Allen: Thank

[2:05:37] Trustee Fast: you, Catherine.

[2:05:39] Trustee Allen: Thank you, Catherine.

[2:05:41] Trustee Fast: Bye, everybody.

[2:05:42] Trustee Fast: Bye.

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Hornby Island Local Trust Committee 
Minutes of Regular Meeting 
 
Date: 
Location: 
May 21, 2021 
Electronic Meeting 
 
Members Present: Sue Ellen Fast, Chair 
 Alex Allen, Local Trustee 
 Grant Scott, Local Trustee 
  
Staff Present: Heather Kauer, Regional Planning Manager 
 William Shulba, Senior Freshwater Specialist 
 Teresa Mahikwa, Island Planner 
 Wil Cottingham, Administrative Assistant 
 Katherine Vogt, Recorder 
  
Others Present: Approximately six (6) members of the public. 
 
1. CALL TO ORDER 
Chair Fast called the meeting to order at 10:00 am. She welcomed the public, introduced 
Trustees, staff and recorder; and acknowledged that the meeting was being held electronically 
in territory of the K’omoks and Coast Salish First Nations. 
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 
The following additions to the agenda were presented for consideration: 
 Under item 9.1, to be added for discussion, recent correspondence received by Trustee 
Allen from Wiseman, regarding the Official Community Plan (OCP) Bylaw No. 166. 
 Under Item 9.2, to be added as an addendum, the staff report on the Hornby Drinking 
Water and Watershed Protection Project, which was to be distributed at the present 
meeting, will instead be referred to as a report on the Islands Trust website that anyone 
can access. 
 Under item 9.3, housekeeping Bylaw Nos. 161 and No. 162, to be presented to trustees 
for adoption 
 Under item 11.2, add for discussion, Temporary Use Permits (TUPs) for seasonal workers 
for this upcoming summer. 
By general consent the agenda was adopted as amended. 
3. REPORTS 
3.1 Trustee Reports 
  Trustee Scott reported on the following: 
 The owner of the Thatch continues to maintain a shutdown of operations at the 
Thatch development site. A representative from the Ministry of Forests, Lands, 

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Natural Resource Operations and Rural Development (FLNRO) met with K'ómoks 
First Nation Chief Nicole Rempel recently at the Thatch development site to review 
the site. There has been no other new information brought forward.  
 The Hornby Island Advisory Planning Commission (HOAPC) will soon be examining 
the ongoing issues around Short Term Vacation Rentals (STVRs). 
 The lack of permanent housing on Hornby Island, especially for working younger 
people, continues to be a serious problem. 
 HOAPC Members and HOAPC Chair Wendy Burton were thanked for doing an 
excellent job on their last referral. HOAPC member Daniel Siegel has recently 
assumed the role of President of the Hornby Island Residents and Ratepayers 
Association (HIRRA). 
 Islands Trust staff were thanked for their recent efforts. 
Trustee Allen reported on the following: 
 Numerous conversations with people in the community regarding ideas for housing 
options, STVR infractions, renting during the Covid pandemic, and visitors to Hornby 
Island during the Covid pandemic. 
 Concerns that the new Islands Trust website was cumbersome and non-intuitive to 
himself and many others he had spoken to. 
o Chair Fast noted that the new website had been up for a few weeks and that 
anyone can send feedback to webcomments@islandstrust.bc.ca. 
3.2 Chair's Report 
 Chair Fast reported on her participation in the following meetings: 
 Weekly Executive Committee meetings to prepare the agenda for the upcoming 
Trust Council meetings of June 8, 9, and 10, 2021. 
 A recent Regional Planning Committee meeting allowed a look at the Islands Trust 
Freshwater Sustainability Strategy. 
 Bowen Island Municipality Council Meetings. 
 An upcoming Islands Trust Conservancy meeting. 
 An upcoming meeting of the Association of Vancouver Island and Coastal 
Communities meeting. 
Chair Fast noted that a recent higher than normal volume of development applications 
over the entirety of the Islands Trust area, was lengthening the planning approval 
process and may be partly to do with the Covid pandemic. As well, Islands Trust 
Conservancy proposals for covenants and donations had increased.  
3.3 Electoral Area Director's Report - none 
4. TOWN HALL  
 Members of the public commented with the following noted: 
 Darren Bond, Chair of the Hornby Island Community Economic Enhancement Community 
(HICEEC), in collaboration with Hornby Water Stewardship, reported on a pilot project to 
install roadside signage to signal drought levels for public awareness. The Fire chief had 
approved such drought signage along the same stretch of property that the fire hazard 
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across the Gulf Islands based on the provincial government drought information portal for 
these areas. 
o Chair Fast noted that Bowen Island has an online version of a drought monitor under 
‘Alerts.’ 
o Trustees Scott and Allen were supportive of this project. 
5. DELEGATIONS - none 
6. MINUTES 
6.1 Local Trust Committee Minutes dated March 26, 2021 - for adoption 
HO-2021-035 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee adopt the minutes of March 26, 2021. 
CARRIED 
6.2 Section 26 Resolutions-without-meeting Report dated May 7, 2021 
Received 
6.3 Advisory Planning Commission Minutes dated March 10, 2021 - for receipt 
  Received 
7. BUSINESS ARISING FROM MINUTES 
7.1 Follow-up Action List Report dated May 12, 2021 
A Trustee requested that planning staff provide somewhat more contextual information 
to the motions and other items listed in the Follow Up Action List Report. 
7.2 Letter dated March 31, 2021 - Local Trust Committee Letter of Support for Connected 
Coast 
 Chair Fast, author of the letter, introduced the letter to Trustees for discussion. 
7.3 Letter dated May 5, 2021 to the Local Trust Committee from Susan Stanford, Assistant 
Deputy Minister for the Connectivity Division in the Ministry of Citizens' Services 
regarding the Connected Coast Network 
A Trustee observed from this response letter that the Local Trust Committee (LTC) was 
still waiting for a statement from Northern Development Initiative Trust (NDIT) 
regarding their approval of the CityWest funding application to support last mile 
internet connectivity to Hornby and Denman Islands. 
Chair Fast noted that she had sent an email to Trustees containing a map of Denman 
and Hornby internet speeds, as part of a larger Canadian map, and linked to a Union of 
BC Municipalities website, which allows users to directly gauge their internet speeds, to 
compare their actual speeds to what the Federal map speeds convey. Internet speeds 
have become a factor in Federal grant funding initiatives where funding has been 
sometimes denied to communities that are incorrectly deemed to already have 
sufficient internet speeds. 

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8. APPLICATIONS AND REFERRALS – none 
9. LOCAL TRUST COMMITTEE PROJECTS 
9.1 Minimum Average Lot Area Amendments Project (MALA) - verbal update 
Planner Mahikwa provided an update on the amendment Bylaw Nos. 166 and 167 since 
their first reading on March 26, 2021, with the following information: 
 We received no responses from any agencies (deadline was May 19), and to date 
have had responses from three First Nations (Wei Wai Kum, We Wai Kai, and 
Cowichan Tribes) responded with “no comment”.  The other ten First Nations have 
until June 25, 2021 to respond. 
 Consideration of second reading of the bylaws is set for the July 16, 2021 LTC 
meeting when staff will provide a final report.  
 For Bylaw No. 167, a Land Use Bylaw (LUB) amendment, the Public Hearing 
requirements will have been waived, so the LTC can consider second and third 
readings and referral to the Executive Committee at its July meeting. 
 For Bylaw No. 166, an OCP amendment, a Community Information Meeting and a 
Public Hearing can be held after the July LTC meeting. Consideration of 2nd and 3rd 
reading. Potentially refer to EC and Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing as 
well. 
 
Trustee Allen spoke regarding an email he had received on May 20, 2021 from Kaeley 
Wiseman, Principal of Wiser Projects, which was too late to appear on today’s agenda. 
He suggested that the minimum average lot area ideas proposed by Wiser should be 
discussed before second reading of Bylaw No. 166.  
 Regional Planning Manager Kauer observed that the minimum average lot area 
ideas proposed by Wiser would involve very substantial changes to the OCP and LUB 
because they would allow for residential lots smaller than 1 hectare.  
HO-2021-036 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee request staff to report on the Wiser letter 
of May 19, 2021, regarding its proposals for Minimum Average Lot Area amendments, 
and how these proposals relate to the Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 166, for 
consideration at the July 16, 2021 Hornby Island Local Trust Committee meeting. 
CARRIED 
9.2 Hornby Drinking Water and Watershed Protection Project - Staff Report - to be 
distributed 
Chair Fast noted that the report would not be distributed but was contained on the 
Islands Trust website in the Addendum to the meeting Agenda.  
William Shulba, Senior Freshwater Specialist, introduced the Hornby Drinking Water and 
Watershed Protection Project Report, which falls under the Islands Trust Freshwater 
Sustainability Strategy, and noted the following: 

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 Islands Trust received a $200,000 grant from Healthy Watersheds Initiative as part 
of a $27,000,000 NDP campaign promise to facilitate community-driven work to 
protect watersheds. 
 Most of these funds will go towards the Islands Trust Freshwater Sustainability 
Strategy. 
 As part of that strategy, Hornby Water Stewardship, managed by Heron Rocks 
Friendship Center Society, was one of a handful of projects selected in the Trust 
area, with $25,000 dedicated. 
 The focus of the Hornby Watershed Stewardship project is on-island water testing 
services for coliforms and e-coli. They operate out of the Hornby Spark in the old 
firehall. 
 Funding will help pay for testing kits, instrumentation for water quality, other 
equipment, and an employment position. Some funds will also go towards GIS and 
watershed resiliency mapping. 
 Island Health has found bacteria on Hornby beaches from stream and ditch run off. 
 The new project will expand testing to include water from ditches and streams to 
identify the origins and extent of well water contaminating bacteria.  
  Trustee Allen requested information on jurisdictional limitations. 
Specialist Shulba responded that: 
 Private domestic water wells are in a jurisdictional grey zone between the Water 
Sustainability Act, which focuses more on larger scale private wells for multiple 
users and agriculture;  
 The Drinking Water Protection Regulation Act, which has very little direct regulation 
of domestic wells; and  
 The Comox Valley Regional District, which has no program for domestic wells. 
However, within the Water Sustainability Act, the section ‘Water Objectives,’ is 
being updated to better address specific watersheds and aquifers. 
9.3 Bylaw Nos. 161 and 162 - for adoption 
 Regional Planning Manager Kauer noted that these were final housekeeping motions for 
the bylaws that had been through all stages of the bylaw process and were ready to be 
added to the official OCP and LUB. 
HO-2021-037 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 161, cited as “Hornby Island 
Official Community Plan Bylaw, 2014, Amendment No.1, 2019”, be adopted. 
CARRIED 
HO-2021-038 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 162, cited as “Hornby Island 
Land Use Bylaw, 2014, Amendment No.1, 2019”, be adopted. 
CARRIED 
10. CORRESPONDENCE 

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Correspondence received concerning current applications or projects is posted to the LTC 
webpage 
10.1 Email dated May 3, 2020 from T. Law regarding streamlined Temporary Use Permits 
for Housing 
In his letter, Tony Law provides a link to a webpage article on the District of Ucluelet 
website describing a worker housing pilot project utilizing the fast-tracking of TUPS to 
allow RVs. 
A Trustee noted that this webpage article had been sent to him by many other 
residents.  
10.2 Email dated March 19, 2021 from P. Stockdill, The Council of BC Yacht Clubs regarding 
Expansion of Shellfish Aquaculture Tenure, Henry Bay, Baynes Sound 
Received 
10.3 Email dated April 30, 2021 from P. Stockdill, The Council of BC Yacht Clubs regarding 
flip pouches in Baynes Sound 
HO-2021-040 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee request the Chair to draft a letter of 
support from the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee to the Denman Island Local Trust 
Committee for taking the Stockdill email of March 19, 2021 and the Stockdill email of 
April 30, 2021, regarding plastic debris issues, to the Baynes Sound Forum for 
consideration. 
CARRIED 
11. NEW BUSINESS 
11.1 Annual Report - Staff Report 
Planner Kauer sought endorsement from the LTC for a statement that summarizes the 
year’s activities of the LTC for the permanent record of the Trust Council.  
Trustee Scott suggested the inclusion of a statement to indicate that application 
volumes have increased. 
HO-2021-041 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee endorse the following text for inclusion in 
the 2020-2021 Annual report for approval by the Islands Trust Council and submission to 
the Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing as amended with the addition of one 
sentence that states that application volumes have increased: 
“The Hornby Island Local Trust Committee (HO LTC) held nine meetings in the 2020/21 
fiscal year. There were six regular business meetings and three public hearings.  

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Work for this period focused on technical amendments to the official community plan 
(OCP), fees related to the bylaw enforcement notification bylaw, and amending the 
zoning of a property where affordable housing is planned. The HO LTC also initiated a 
project to amend the OCP and land use bylaws to address inconsistencies related to 
minimum average lot area provisions.  
The HO LTC considered numerous reports in conjunction with one major rezoning 
application on the island. The committee also reviewed two development permits and 
one temporary use permit.  
Staff reviewed two subdivisions, twenty-two siting and use permits, and seven crown 
land referrals related to proposed development in the Hornby Island Local Trust Area.  
Another initiative of the HO LTC has been relationship building with the K’omoks First 
Nation.”  
CARRIED 
11.2 Temporary Use Permits for seasonal workers for this summer   
Trustee Allen noted that there was a general lack of housing for seasonal workers on 
Hornby Island and that partly because of the Covid pandemic, nomadic living was 
proliferating. Perhaps a Temporary Use Permit (TUP) could be made less expensive for 
this summer through a fast-tracked process. 
Trustee Scott noted that the cost and temporary nature of the TUP permits were an 
impediment to investment. The issue could be referred to the APC in July after a staff 
report. 
Chair Fast noted that infrequent Local Trust Committee meetings, in comparison to 
Municipal meetings which could meet weekly, precluded fast-tracking. 
HO-2021-039 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee request that staff analyze the issues 
around temporary seasonal housing for workers on Hornby Island and provide a report 
for the next Local Trust Committee meeting on July 16, 2021 meeting. 
CARRIED 
12. REPORTS 
12.1 Trust Conservancy Report – none 
By General Consent the meeting recessed at 11:35 am and reconvened at 11:41 am. 
12.2 Applications Report dated May 12, 2021 
Regional Planning Manager Kauer clarified that Siting and Use Permits (SUPs) are 
separate from Temporary use permits (TUPs). A SUP generally applies to the placement 
of a structure and the issuance of a SUP does not automatically mean that conditions 
have been met for a TUP. 

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HO-2021-042 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee request that staff communicate with the 
applicant Jeremy Payne to allow that he be fully aware of the terms of his Temporary 
Use Permit. 
CARRIED 
Regional Planning Manager Kauer noted that site visits from planning staff have been 
suspended under emergency orders during the Covid pandemic. 
Trustee Allen noted that he had recently communicated with the individual who had 
provided him with 175 pages of background information for Bradsdadsland and that he 
would be forwarding this to planning staff. 
12.3 Trustee and Local Expense Report dated February, 2021 
  Received 
12.4 Adopted Policies and Standing Resolutions 
Trustee Allen noted a date error in the following statement at the top of the page at 
Number 3 that should be corrected to read October 31, 2021. 
“unless the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee extends the effective period, this 
enforcement policy expires on October 31, 2020 or when the housing needs project is 
complete, whichever is the sooner.” 
12.5 Local Trust Committee Webpage 
Trustees found complications in navigating the new website.  
 
Chair Fast noted that comments could be made and sent to 
webcomments@islandstrust.c.ca so input could be collected to improve the website. 
13. WORK PROGRAM 
13.1 Top Priorities Report dated May 12, 2021 
  Received 
13.2 Projects List Report dated May 12, 2021 
  Received 
14. INFORMATION ITEMS 
14.1 Islands Trust Conservancy Newsletter - The Heron - Spring 2021 
Chair Fast spoke regarding the newsletter coming out in a new format and more 
frequently.  The Trustees wished to thank the publicists for a job well done and the very 
nice new presentation of the newsletter.  
14.2 News Release - June 2021 Islands Trust Council Meeting Program Announced 

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14.3 News Release - A Surge in Development Applications slows processing time at Islands 
Trust 
15. CLOSED MEETING - none 
16. UPCOMING MEETINGS 
16.1 Next Regular Meeting Scheduled for Friday, July 16, 2021 at 10:00 am - Location to be 
determined 
17. ADJOURNMENT 
By general consent the meeting was adjourned at 12:05 pm. 
 
 
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Sue Ellen Fast, Chair 
 
Certified Correct: 
 
 
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Katherine Vogt, Recorder