Islands Trust Council community information meeting, February 17, 2022

[0:00:00] Voice 8: for anybody here my hair looks like this because of the straps on my mask we

[0:00:07] Trustee Patrick: weren't going to say

[0:00:07] Trustee Patrick: anything i'm

[0:00:11] Voice 8: looking fairly lopsided here so far there's

[0:00:15] Voice 8: nobody

[0:00:16] Trustee Patrick: attending as a webinar uh there may

[0:00:19] Trustee Patrick: be people live streaming i can just say if you were preparing to ask us questions during the

[0:00:24] Trustee Patrick: town hall you need to be attending as an attendee which is there should be two buttons to choose

[0:00:30] Trustee Patrick: from on the website page we are going to stand by we can't we're waiting for

[0:00:39] Trustee Patrick: trustee middleton to join us we now have one one attendee good morning and thank you for joining

[0:00:48] Trustee Patrick: us and like i said just stand by we'll kick off the meeting here momentarily as soon as we discover

[0:00:54] Trustee Patrick: where mr middleton is trustee middleton i guess i should appropriately call him let

[0:01:14] Voice 8: me message

[0:01:15] Voice 8: again

[0:01:16] Trustee Patrick: he's gonna say he thought it was noon

[0:01:27] Trustee Patrick: that's happened before i

[0:01:29] Voice 6: thought

[0:01:33] Trustee Patrick: it was 11 robin knows i was here bright and early

[0:01:36] Trustee Patrick: she's like it doesn't start till 11 30 maybe

[0:01:47] Voice 8: he doesn't realize a meeting can't start without him

[0:01:49] Voice 8: so i've texted him that of course if he's driving he's got a new car so if uh if he's driving it

[0:01:57] Voice 8: probably will speak to him

[0:01:59] Voice 6: my

[0:02:03] Voice 8: wife's car does that now and people text me and i'm driving her car it

[0:02:08] Voice 8: speaks the text out pretty

[0:02:12] Trustee Patrick: cool although i look forward to driving the car and have a moment of

[0:02:17] Trustee Patrick: escape escape

[0:02:22] Voice 8: from what you're

[0:02:23] Trustee Patrick: answering phone calls text your

[0:02:25] Voice 8: bucolic life on salt spring

[0:02:28] Voice 8: spring island that's

[0:02:29] Trustee Patrick: right calm cool collected that's us it

[0:02:31] Voice 8: is pretty quiet here on saturn

[0:02:36] Voice 8: of these days the only boiling issue right now everywhere on these islands the real only real

[0:02:44] Voice 8: boiling issue is housing so laura you know all about that

[0:02:49] Trustee Patrick: yes i do and

[0:02:58] Voice 8: we have a a problem with

[0:03:01] Voice 8: our winery you know we're a very small island and they're pouring bucket loads of money in there

[0:03:07] Voice 8: but they don't there's not enough people on the islands to do the work they need in a compressed

[0:03:12] Voice 8: time period and they have to figure out how to house their employees their seasonal workers

[0:03:21] Voice 8: the trust has been very responsive the crd still has to respond

[0:03:30] Voice 8: they let people take vacations there which i think is very irresponsible

[0:03:35] Voice 6: oh

[0:03:37] Voice 8: come on lee he could have gotten lost yes

[0:03:45] Trustee Patrick: it is i know it's very uh easy island to get lost on

[0:03:48] Trustee Patrick: especially if you went up and over instead of around the mountain yeah

[0:03:53] Voice 8: did uh salt spring

[0:03:58] Voice 8: roads get really hammered in

[0:04:01] Trustee Patrick: the no in in the november rain and then the winter wasn't uh

[0:04:06] Trustee Patrick: helpful but yeah no the road conditions are uh not great yeah

[0:04:16] Voice 8: some of our roads are still

[0:04:17] Voice 8: impassable ours

[0:04:21] Trustee Patrick: well they never i mean i guess in the winter it's just where the roads were

[0:04:24] Trustee Patrick: washed out or just gravel surfaced so you have to pay

[0:04:28] Trustee Patrick: attention okay

[0:04:36] Voice 8: this is this is even bad for

[0:04:38] Voice 8: lee well

[0:04:42] Trustee Patrick: we can carry on talking about housing i think i bet he's going to say he thought it was

[0:04:49] Trustee Patrick: new on the roads issue i think the next southern gulf island forum will have the minister of

[0:04:56] Trustee Patrick: transportation coming so that should be a good conversation oh really

[0:05:02] Voice 8: in

[0:05:03] Trustee Patrick: march that's good

[0:05:12] Voice 8: i don't want to miss out he's got quite a good reputation from the people that i know that

[0:05:24] Voice 8: know him and deal with him well

[0:05:29] Trustee Patrick: i've been very i mean having regional conversations i think

[0:05:33] Trustee Patrick: are important oh

[0:05:35] Voice 8: look is it lee

[0:05:40] Voice 8: he has arrived i better go out and let him in because i don't know if he's got the code i'll

[0:05:49] Voice 8: come back

[0:06:17] Voice 6: all

[0:06:28] Voice 5: right

[0:06:33] Trustee Patrick: well while lee's uh unpacking his computer we'll get things going because i

[0:06:38] Trustee Patrick: appreciate everyone who came or is listening we still have only one attendee in the um

[0:06:43] Trustee Patrick: the attendee mode if like I said if you're on the live stream version you will not be able to

[0:06:47] Trustee Patrick: interact with us if you had intended to speak with us you'll need to use the attendee line

[0:06:53] Trustee Patrick: so I'll look to trustee Brent should we kick off the meeting I

[0:06:57] Voice 8: would like to kick off the meeting

[0:06:58] Voice 8: yes please

[0:06:59] Trustee Patrick: I thought so all right well let me open up my other screen here which I of course

[0:07:07] Trustee Patrick: now oops misplaced oh no sorry hold on there it is had my notes went to the wrong screen

[0:07:17] Trustee Patrick: good morning i'd like to call to order this uh meeting of the saturn island local trust committee

[0:07:24] Trustee Patrick: i'm um laura patrick i'm elected on salt spring i'm coming to you as chair i always begin with

[0:07:34] Trustee Patrick: acknowledging how fortunate we are to be able to be gathering all across the traditional unceded

[0:07:39] Trustee Patrick: territories of the Coast Salish people. I'm joined today by Trustee Paul Brent and we're now joined

[0:07:47] Trustee Patrick: with Trustee Lee Middleton which is in the room there so welcome welcome Lee. There he is.

[0:07:55] Trustee Patrick: Together we make up your Saterna Local Trust Committee. This meeting is being conducted

[0:08:01] Trustee Patrick: electronically and is being recorded. This is a meeting official form for your local trust

[0:08:07] Trustee Patrick: committee to make decisions about land use planning and other relevant business and I'd also

[0:08:13] Trustee Patrick: like to add that despite the fact that some of our staff may be coming from their own homes

[0:08:19] Trustee Patrick: they have the right to a safe and respectful workplace as this is an electronic meeting we

[0:08:24] Trustee Patrick: may have some technical difficulties but the wi-fi in the hall there is usually very strong

[0:08:30] Trustee Patrick: this is a bit of a hybrid meeting we have the two trustees present together in the hall and I'm

[0:08:37] Trustee Patrick: coming on electronically and I'm grateful to staff for helping to arrange the meeting and

[0:08:42] Trustee Patrick: the flexibility that we're having to show in this time with the COVID that we all can't wait to have

[0:08:49] Trustee Patrick: go away. I will review about the town hall in a moment, but I wanted to introduce staff. I

[0:08:57] Trustee Patrick: apologize for passing on here. We have Lauren Edwards is our minute taker. We have Robin Elchuk

[0:09:03] Trustee Patrick: is administratively helping us make the meeting.

[0:09:06] Trustee Patrick: Thank you very much.

[0:09:08] Trustee Patrick: We have Robert Kojima, our regional planning manager.

[0:09:10] Trustee Patrick: Welcome, Robert, for joining us.

[0:09:13] Trustee Patrick: Normally, you don't come over to Saturn in the mornings,

[0:09:15] Trustee Patrick: so we're glad to have you this way.

[0:09:18] Trustee Patrick: And we have planner Brad Smith.

[0:09:20] Trustee Patrick: So thank you all for joining us.

[0:09:24] Trustee Patrick: We have an agenda before us, trustees.

[0:09:27] Trustee Patrick: Are there any changes that need to be made to the agenda?

[0:09:30] Voice 8: Not for me.

[0:09:31] Trustee Patrick: Leave nodding to.

[0:09:33] Voice 8: No changes.

[0:09:34] Voice 8: No change.

[0:09:35] Trustee Patrick: All right, so we can approve the agenda

[0:09:37] Trustee Patrick: through general consent.

[0:09:39] Trustee Patrick: With that, we start with our trustee reports.

[0:09:43] Trustee Patrick: Who'd like to go?

[0:09:44] Voice 8: I got an A minus.

[0:09:46] Voice 8: What did you get in your report?

[0:09:51] Voice 8: So I guess I can talk to,

[0:09:54] Voice 8: I attended the trust programs committee a couple of days ago

[0:09:58] Voice 8: and we talked principally about the upcoming consultation

[0:10:04] Voice 8: consultation that will be happening on these islands. We did talk about the timeline that's

[0:10:12] Voice 8: currently in the materials which suggests that we'll be having the trust policy statement

[0:10:19] Voice 8: rewrite approved by the end of this term and we thought that that perhaps was a little too

[0:10:26] Voice 8: prescriptive and so we passed a motion that said that we would be guided by the public consultation

[0:10:33] Voice 8: as to the timelines and that was the high point for me anyway of the trust programs committee

[0:10:39] Voice 8: and uh then we had the financial planning committee uh yesterday where um they moved

[0:10:50] Voice 8: forward a budget uh for presentation at the march uh trust council which is when the budget is

[0:10:57] Voice 8: either approved or not and what went forward after listening to uh or reviewing uh surveys

[0:11:06] Voice 8: from i think over 1200 uh different respondents with 49 percent in favor of a decrease in taxes

[0:11:15] Voice 8: and services 46 percent uh wishing that they would stay the same or be increased so the majority

[0:11:24] Voice 8: in favor of a decrease the financial planning committee uh added a net of 75 000 to the budget

[0:11:33] Voice 8: to will be around 9.5 a little over 9.5 million dollars uh a decent portion of that is grants

[0:11:42] Voice 8: probably depending upon what you class as a grant between 700 and a million dollars but that's

[0:11:48] Voice 8: a little bit different than the prior year where i think the grants were in around the

[0:11:53] Voice 8: about three hundred thousand dollars less than that and so that's all i have to report in terms

[0:11:59] Voice 8: of my report trustee middleton

[0:12:04] Voice 6: hello

[0:12:09] Trustee Middleton: um we're i think we're going to have some technical

[0:12:12] Trustee Middleton: difficulties here owing to um yeah

[0:12:16] Trustee Patrick: if one of you can turn paul if you can just turn your um

[0:12:19] Trustee Patrick: yeah there you go then we don't get an echo go ahead lee um

[0:12:24] Trustee Middleton: i i think you have to turn your

[0:12:26] Trustee Middleton: your speakers off, we get this terrible feedback echo.

[0:12:32] Voice 8: Or

[0:12:33] Trustee Middleton: I could go in the other room.

[0:12:34] Trustee Middleton: It seems sort of pointless that we're both sat here with each other,

[0:12:37] Trustee Middleton: getting no benefit from our, you know,

[0:12:41] Trustee Middleton: beautiful countenances because we're both wearing these masks.

[0:12:45] Trustee Middleton: Anyway, there we go. Can you hear me on the call?

[0:12:51] Trustee Middleton: And once I'm done this,

[0:12:53] Trustee Middleton: I can just keep my speakers off and you can just have yours on and I'll

[0:12:56] Trustee Middleton: be able to hear we should be fine then so other than those thrilling technical details um i think

[0:13:04] Trustee Middleton: there's one one item to report on which is a not of a um a local matter because of course we're

[0:13:12] Trustee Middleton: going to be uh dealing with that at this at the meeting here but uh or the local items but of

[0:13:18] Trustee Middleton: trust-wide significance is the um release by the consulting team of the um governance and

[0:13:25] Trustee Middleton: management review um so that's been released in confidence to all trustees that my understanding

[0:13:31] Trustee Middleton: from talking to our ceo is that it doesn't really the content doesn't really justify it being held

[0:13:37] Trustee Middleton: in in confidence or in camera as it would be uh termed under the local government act so

[0:13:45] Trustee Middleton: my belief and i could be wrong about this is it will be released to the public when it goes on

[0:13:49] Trustee Middleton: the executive committee's agenda which i think and laura you can correct me if i'm wrong here

[0:13:55] Trustee Middleton: but I think would effectively be any day now,

[0:13:57] Trustee Middleton: or it might be the middle of next week.

[0:13:59] Trustee Middleton: I'm not entirely sure of the timing of the executive committee.

[0:14:04] Trustee Middleton: So until that point, obviously we can't speak about its contents

[0:14:07] Trustee Middleton: or say anything further, but other than the fact that it's anticipated

[0:14:12] Trustee Middleton: it will be made public before the March Trust Council meeting.

[0:14:18] Trustee Middleton: But maybe, Laura, if you know anything about that,

[0:14:20] Trustee Middleton: you have better intelligence than I.

[0:14:22] Trustee Middleton: maybe we could just I could pause there for a second um

[0:14:26] Trustee Patrick: best best of my understanding is that it

[0:14:30] Trustee Patrick: it could could be released you know soon and that's that's about all I can say I mean I

[0:14:37] Trustee Patrick: I think it could could happen in the next few days okay

[0:14:43] Trustee Middleton: um I I think that's probably the most

[0:14:51] Trustee Middleton: relevant thing i could discuss at this at this point and so i you know there's not anything

[0:14:56] Trustee Middleton: further i can say about that um because it has been received in confidence but all trustees did

[0:15:01] Trustee Middleton: receive it at the same time so um um everyone has been having a chance to digest it and then

[0:15:08] Trustee Middleton: we receive a presentation from the consultants who who wrote the report at the march council

[0:15:13] Trustee Middleton: meeting i think half a day is dedicated to question and answer and um and really drilling

[0:15:19] Trustee Middleton: down into what they've recommended and their rationale and and getting more detail from them so

[0:15:25] Trustee Middleton: um i think that is it from me well

[0:15:28] Trustee Patrick: thank you well i guess uh both of you alluded to the upcoming

[0:15:32] Trustee Patrick: trust council meeting which will be in march uh march 8th through 10th uh the meeting will be

[0:15:38] Trustee Patrick: in person in nanaimo but also it will be streamed live there will be a public input session on march

[0:15:46] Trustee Patrick: March 8th from seven till 9 p.m.

[0:15:49] Trustee Patrick: And that's where both the budget

[0:15:53] Trustee Patrick: and the review will be discussed in detail.

[0:15:58] Trustee Patrick: And I think Trustee Brent,

[0:16:01] Trustee Patrick: the budget is a long winding road

[0:16:04] Trustee Patrick: to get to where we are.

[0:16:06] Trustee Patrick: I think we have removed quite a bit

[0:16:09] Trustee Patrick: of what was requested,

[0:16:11] Trustee Patrick: did not end up in the budget

[0:16:12] Trustee Patrick: as we've gone through the process.

[0:16:15] Trustee Patrick: So we will deal with it at Trust Council up in March.

[0:16:23] Trustee Patrick: Okay.

[0:16:24] Trustee Patrick: So with that, it's your turn.

[0:16:27] Trustee Patrick: We have one person that's up.

[0:16:30] Trustee Patrick: Sorry, Paul.

[0:16:31] Trustee Patrick: I

[0:16:36] Voice 8: have a question.

[0:16:37] Voice 8: I just kind of thought about that.

[0:16:40] Voice 8: Are we going to be discussing the trust policy statement a lot

[0:16:44] Voice 8: at Trust Council because public consultation hasn't really even started yet?

[0:16:50] Trustee Patrick: sorry i i if i had said trust policy statement i don't know why i said that

[0:16:54] Trustee Patrick: i meant to say the review and the budget are the two big items on the on the march um um

[0:17:03] Trustee Patrick: agenda thank you um the trust policy statement engagement is what uh it should be kicked off

[0:17:12] Trustee Patrick: any day now i'm waiting for the announcement i keep saying it's coming within a week uh so soon

[0:17:18] Trustee Patrick: Soon there will be an announcement and the public engagement will be kicking off and you'll have that opportunity to get involved in a lot more information.

[0:17:25] Trustee Patrick: And I know I'm looking forward to that process.

[0:17:27] Trustee Patrick: So sorry if I said the wrong thing there, Paul.

[0:17:31] Trustee Patrick: Okay.

[0:17:32] Trustee Patrick: So again, this is your turn to speak to us.

[0:17:35] Trustee Patrick: We have one person that's in the attendees that could speak to us.

[0:17:38] Trustee Patrick: And I don't know if you are interested in speaking to us.

[0:17:41] Trustee Patrick: You just have to raise your hand, which should be at the center of the screen.

[0:17:44] Trustee Patrick: um otherwise your trustees always want to hear from you i know they're available to hear from

[0:17:50] Trustee Patrick: you those that live on the island you can send emails um and so what you have to say is very

[0:17:57] Trustee Patrick: important i'm not seeing a hand raised by the person that's in attendance or they could

[0:18:05] Voice 8: chop wood that's

[0:18:09] Trustee Patrick: true go help paul's looking for volunteers to come help chop wood and he'll

[0:18:13] Trustee Patrick: He'll answer questions, but he'll pay attention as he's chopping, but the coffee breaks.

[0:18:19] Trustee Patrick: So, all right.

[0:18:20] Trustee Patrick: Well, we'll move on then.

[0:18:23] Trustee Patrick: We have already approved the minutes from the October 21st.

[0:18:29] Trustee Patrick: They're just here for information purposes.

[0:18:32] Trustee Patrick: And the resolutions without meeting log is here as well.

[0:18:36] Trustee Patrick: And then we have the follow-up action list on page nine of the agenda package.

[0:18:41] Trustee Patrick: I guess, are there any questions on that or is there anything that Planner Smith, so are there any questions?

[0:18:53] Trustee Patrick: Nope. Planner Smith, anything that you wish to talk about? Nope or yes?

[0:18:58] Voice 2: No, there's nothing to bring forward. Excellent.

[0:19:01] Trustee Patrick: excellent um so that brings us on to item 13-1 we jump right along to is the new fee bylaw request

[0:19:12] Trustee Patrick: for decision uh that is attached at page 11 who's going to talk about that um

[0:19:19] Voice 7: yeah robert's going to

[0:19:21] Voice 7: bring or sorry i can just

[0:19:22] Voice 7: briefly summarize it i believe this was on the last agenda for this

[0:19:26] Voice 7: attorney local trust committee and the ltc deferred it has to be deferred sorry asked

[0:19:32] Voice 7: it to be deferred until the subsequent agenda so it's back on here this is what uh the ltc

[0:19:37] Voice 7: saw at trust council um and again like i said last meeting um if you want the ltc does want

[0:19:44] Voice 7: to proceed with adopting the model fee bylaw um staff would need direction to prepare by

[0:19:50] Voice 7: bylaw and then we would bring it back and uh for consideration of greetings

[0:19:57] Voice 6: trustees

[0:19:58] Trustee Patrick: oh sorry paul now your speaker's offer who's all right you'll have to i think you need

[0:20:08] Trustee Patrick: to mute trustee middleton and then trustee brent can uh there

[0:20:12] Voice 8: we go so i guess if my recollection

[0:20:16] Voice 8: is correct we were going to take this out for public comment but we really can't do that um

[0:20:21] Voice 8: Well, we probably can more in the near future, given the fact that some of the restrictions have eased.

[0:20:33] Trustee Middleton: Yes, I think one other reason for deferring it was, I thought, because of Brad's workload.

[0:20:41] Trustee Middleton: And we knew we didn't really have much in the way of applications.

[0:20:45] Trustee Middleton: And therefore, we weren't at risk of having applications at the, shall we say, quote unquote, wrong fee level.

[0:20:53] Trustee Middleton: And so I think that's still the case.

[0:20:55] Trustee Middleton: I think you know it looks like most of the work is done in this model bylaw I think when we finally

[0:21:00] Trustee Middleton: do move on it and I think we can commit to moving on it certainly before the end of the term

[0:21:04] Trustee Middleton: that a lot of a lot of the information needed to create the bylaw for Saturna is already there all

[0:21:10] Trustee Middleton: that good work has been done so I think our interest was to clear Brad's deck so that we

[0:21:16] Trustee Middleton: could move the land use bylaw updates and and focus on that and then once that was out of the

[0:21:21] Trustee Middleton: the way we could as sort of housekeeping items

[0:21:23] Trustee Middleton: toward the end of the term,

[0:21:25] Trustee Middleton: we could come back to this model fee bylaw.

[0:21:27] Trustee Middleton: And maybe as you say, Paul, get some public input

[0:21:30] Trustee Middleton: and move on it from there.

[0:21:33] Trustee Middleton: So I think deferring it again is probably in order

[0:21:37] Trustee Middleton: without diminishing the work that's gone into it.

[0:21:39] Trustee Middleton: It looks good.

[0:21:40] Trustee Middleton: It looks like it will stay current

[0:21:41] Trustee Middleton: from when we next pick it up.

[0:21:43] Trustee Middleton: And that's what I would suggest.

[0:21:47] Trustee Patrick: Okay, I was gonna say the model fee fee,

[0:21:48] Trustee Patrick: i mean the i understand wanting to get public input the the it's only a 20 like a 20 increase

[0:21:55] Trustee Patrick: or decrease from the numbers is what's envisioned in here and i guess so i'll look to staff is that

[0:22:07] Trustee Patrick: okay to defer this again or sure

[0:22:10] Voice 7: it's the ltc's decision and uh like trustee brent alluded to

[0:22:13] Voice 7: i would

[0:22:14] Trustee Middleton: second that to its motion for deferral

[0:22:17] Voice 8: whoops i just made a motion without my microphone

[0:22:22] Voice 8: phone on there

[0:22:23] Trustee Patrick: you go that's why i was wondering if you were seconding robert's motion i was gonna

[0:22:26] Trustee Patrick: say oh you made him a trustee on

[0:22:29] Voice 7: saturn i was just gonna say that uh yeah saturn deferring this is

[0:22:32] Voice 7: not going to put the islands trust into deficit situation so no

[0:22:38] Voice 8: i don't think we have that much

[0:22:39] Voice 8: activity so my motion was to defer this until the next meeting all

[0:22:44] Trustee Patrick: right and that was seconded by

[0:22:45] Trustee Patrick: by Trustee Middleton,

[0:22:46] Voice 8: any

[0:22:47] Trustee Patrick: discussion?

[0:22:49] Trustee Patrick: I'll call the vote then all those in favor

[0:22:52] Trustee Patrick: and that's been deferred.

[0:22:55] Trustee Patrick: Okay, so the next item is the OCP

[0:22:59] Trustee Patrick: and land use bylaw minor review project

[0:23:01] Trustee Patrick: starting on page 28 and that will be Planner Smith.

[0:23:06] Trustee Patrick: So take the floor.

[0:23:10] Voice 6: Thank you, Chair Patrick.

[0:23:19] Voice 2: So bringing a staff report forward

[0:23:22] Voice 2: to Saterna Local Trust Committee based on the direction provided at the last local trust

[0:23:28] Voice 2: committee meeting to move forward with a number of amendments, both OCP and land use bylaw

[0:23:35] Voice 2: amendments from a number of potential amendments that we worked through in October of 2021.

[0:23:44] Voice 2: So a number of recommendations here bringing a bylaw forward that's fairly straightforward

[0:23:50] Voice 2: forward and i think addresses the the requests of ltc at that last meeting so seeking first reading

[0:23:56] Voice 2: for both the ocp and land use bylaw amendment staff have provided the islands trust policy

[0:24:03] Voice 2: checklist for review by local trust committee to uh to consider endorsement and directing

[0:24:10] Voice 2: trust committee to also consider scheduling a public hearing and community information

[0:24:15] Voice 2: information meeting following the completion of referrals to First Nations and agencies.

[0:24:22] Voice 2: So I think we covered the background there a little bit, the analysis, a number of proposed

[0:24:28] Voice 2: changes suggested by LTC or captured by staff in a running spreadsheet that's been carried over

[0:24:39] Voice 2: for the last few years, LTC could certainly direct staff

[0:24:44] Voice 2: to do something different here with the proposed amendments

[0:24:47] Voice 2: or suggest any other work that they would like to see done.

[0:24:50] Voice 2: I won't walk through each of them separately,

[0:24:53] Voice 2: but LTC can certainly do that if they want to with me.

[0:24:58] Voice 2: As I said, staff are recommending

[0:25:02] Voice 2: that the trust checklist is consistent

[0:25:05] Voice 2: consistent with the proposed amendments.

[0:25:10] Voice 2: Given it's a relatively minor change in bylaws,

[0:25:15] Voice 2: staff would recommend a CIM be done in conjunction

[0:25:17] Voice 2: with the public hearing.

[0:25:20] Voice 2: And we've listed some agency referrals

[0:25:23] Voice 2: and the standard list of First Nations

[0:25:26] Voice 2: that we would consult any bylaw.

[0:25:29] Voice 2: This is an updated list,

[0:25:30] Voice 2: so we don't run into the same problems

[0:25:31] Voice 2: that we ran into with uh with uh your previous bylaw approval at the at the ministry level when

[0:25:37] Voice 2: we get there this will be a a broader list and a more updated list than what was done for the

[0:25:43] Voice 2: national parks and uh and first nations relationship project few alternatives there for ltc to consider

[0:25:51] Voice 2: and i think i'll just leave it to there back to you chair patrick for discussion questions thanks

[0:25:57] Voice 2: Thanks.

[0:25:58] Trustee Patrick: Yeah, thank you very much, Marisa.

[0:26:00] Trustee Patrick: Questions, trustees?

[0:26:04] Trustee Patrick: Go ahead, Trustee Middleton, you'll just have to play,

[0:26:06] Trustee Patrick: remember to turn off, turn on.

[0:26:11] Trustee Middleton: Just a brief question.

[0:26:12] Trustee Middleton: I think your report speaks to this, Brad,

[0:26:14] Trustee Middleton: but one of the things that we were told

[0:26:18] Trustee Middleton: and that we were trying to clarify the wording around

[0:26:20] Trustee Middleton: was when an individual is seeking to use a yurt

[0:26:25] Trustee Middleton: as an accommodation,

[0:26:26] Trustee Middleton: which is permitted in the land use bylaw,

[0:26:29] Trustee Middleton: But the wording is not sufficiently precise for CID sighting and use considerations, it seems.

[0:26:41] Trustee Middleton: And so we were after the individuals who were so concerned to come to us with some, you know, recommendations as to what they think would increase the clarity of the land use bylaw.

[0:26:54] Trustee Middleton: But we've been having a bit of a difficult time actually getting that information.

[0:26:58] Trustee Middleton: And so I think maybe that this now goes to public hearing.

[0:27:02] Trustee Middleton: I think you said that should some information

[0:27:06] Trustee Middleton: come out of the public hearing,

[0:27:08] Trustee Middleton: perhaps in relation to clarification of some of the wording

[0:27:11] Trustee Middleton: or a request for increased definition,

[0:27:15] Trustee Middleton: we can still do that out of the public hearing

[0:27:18] Trustee Middleton: that we have that opportunity for input at that sort of,

[0:27:23] Trustee Middleton: uh um obviously as we've said not new by law level but clarification and or increased definition of

[0:27:31] Trustee Middleton: what's currently in their subsequent or post public hearing i think that's true but i just

[0:27:38] Trustee Middleton: want to clarify that so

[0:27:39] Voice 2: i don't think that was in our initial that in the table that i brought

[0:27:43] Voice 2: forward to local trust committee at the last meeting uh uh an amended definition of yurt or

[0:27:48] Voice 2: or this so I'm not completely clear as to exactly what amendments you may be seeking or the issue

[0:27:55] Voice 2: you're seeking to address and you could certainly summarize that to me in an email and what I would

[0:28:01] Voice 2: say is that while we're giving direction to just schedule a public hearing we're also saying that

[0:28:07] Voice 2: you should do that after you finish your referrals which will take probably a month or two at least

[0:28:12] Voice 2: to complete that work and there's no reason why ltc uh could not bring another amendment forward

[0:28:18] Voice 2: uh to consider uh uh inserting into this uh draft bylaw um um prior to a public hearing even i think

[0:28:30] Voice 2: would be reasonable and

[0:28:32] Voice 7: after a public hearing you can amend the bylaw as long as you're not

[0:28:35] Voice 7: altering user density so something about a def something around a definition or some sort of

[0:28:41] Voice 7: a minor change to a

[0:28:43] Voice 7: regulation would be unlikely to alter user density. But of course, it's always

[0:28:49] Voice 7: preferable to have those amendments before the

[0:28:52] Voice 7: public hearing so people can comment on them.

[0:28:54] Voice 2: And really, it is moving it forward quickly. And I guess you could defer giving direction around

[0:29:01] Voice 2: scheduling a public hearing if you wanted. But I know LTC is keen to move this forward as quickly

[0:29:07] Voice 2: And I think we still have some, some timeframe left to consider any other amendments that you might want to bring forward as long as they're of that minor nature and fit into the scope and nature of the project.

[0:29:21] Trustee Middleton: Okay, no, thank you.

[0:29:23] Trustee Middleton: It's based I think I think what, because unfortunately we can. This is information from somebody who's I think seeking to get clarity, I think it's to do with the potential size limitations.

[0:29:35] Trustee Middleton: So it would be a very minor insertion, but we don't want to hold up the the approval process.

[0:29:43] Trustee Middleton: So I think we certainly prepared to move per your recommendations.

[0:29:48] Trustee Middleton: I just wanted to find out what if this person does come back and say, hey,

[0:29:52] Trustee Middleton: what would be helpful is if you could put the size range of these structures in the bylaw, we would actually have the opportunity to do so.

[0:29:59] Trustee Middleton: on it.

[0:30:00] Trustee Middleton: it sounds like you've said yes we would so so that's good yep

[0:30:03] Trustee Patrick: go ahead switch up you're not

[0:30:12] Voice 8: there we go there's one other thing that might come up and it's a little bit of a flyer but

[0:30:18] Voice 8: um there may be the i'm not sure if the current bylaw suggests that a yurt would have to be

[0:30:25] Voice 8: connected to a septic facility but there is a possibility with respect to some potential

[0:30:32] Voice 8: Potential seasonal farm use housing that the yurt would be a standalone bedroom and would not have any washroom facilities, therefore would not need to be hooked to a septic facility.

[0:30:47] Voice 8: So I don't know if I'm overthinking this, Brad, or not.

[0:30:53] Voice 8: Is

[0:30:53] Trustee Patrick: this on ALR?

[0:30:55] Voice 8: It would be on farm resort property.

[0:31:00] Voice 8: I'm working with this with, I've been working with Brad and Robert as well as the CRD, trying to find

[0:31:07] Voice 8: something that works.

[0:31:09] Voice 2: Robert, you can chime in, but I read the bylaw and it says use of recreational vehicles and yurts.

[0:31:17] Voice 2: And it says the use of a recreational vehicle or yurt as a dwelling or cottage is permitted subject to.

[0:31:24] Voice 2: What you're proposing to use it for is a, was it a bedroom unit?

[0:31:29] Voice 2: it or uh yeah farm accommodation

[0:31:31] Voice 7: basically but

[0:31:33] Voice 2: there was a specific uh perfect thank you so i

[0:31:38] Voice 2: think you're good

[0:31:39] Voice 8: you've clarified thank you i

[0:31:42] Trustee Patrick: have a question on king islet i mean i i discovered

[0:31:46] Trustee Patrick: here in salt spring that our islets have residential zoning as the as we're asking to do

[0:31:52] Trustee Patrick: here but they fell outside the development permit areas i think due to some accident on salt spring

[0:31:58] Trustee Patrick: is is this islet protected through a development permit area there's

[0:32:04] Voice 2: there's there's no development

[0:32:07] Voice 2: permit areas for your your marine dpa zone only uh the lyle creek uh and the bluff dpa

[0:32:15] Voice 2: uh development permit uh conditions uh what i would say is that i think it's a privately owned

[0:32:22] Voice 2: land it's a privately owned parcel with a house on it is my understanding and that it is a

[0:32:28] Voice 2: residential property and it's just okay not zoned properly there is another eastlet because it's

[0:32:34] Voice 2: eastlet eastlets i think uh they're the islet yeah sorry i get that

[0:32:38] Voice 3: wrong every time my my

[0:32:41] Voice 3: spanglish blurs in there from ancient time ago uh but uh they uh are gonna do it again

[0:32:50] Voice 3: the

[0:32:51] Voice 2: islets uh there's two of them there and one of them doesn't show up on title as as so i think

[0:32:56] Voice 2: that's just a provincial and that would be you know protected in whatever way provincial uh

[0:33:02] Voice 2: lands are uh but that one parcel there is an actual pit identified parcel and and it is just

[0:33:11] Voice 2: inappropriate or it's inaccurately zoned right now and designated is that correct

[0:33:15] Voice 2: trustees i think so

[0:33:17] Voice 2: okay

[0:33:19] Trustee Patrick: no i can understand that we're seeing some pressure here where some small islets are being

[0:33:22] Trustee Patrick: yeah

[0:33:23] Voice 2: it's not it is annihilated

[0:33:25] Trustee Patrick: but with vegetation uh to build a structure when these

[0:33:29] Trustee Patrick: are kind of unique locations this

[0:33:32] Voice 2: this is an actual parcel that is privately owned

[0:33:34] Voice 2: if

[0:33:35] Trustee Middleton: um just to clarify you i think when we did the national park rezoning we noticed that those it's

[0:33:42] Trustee Middleton: king and queen islet and queen islet is in the national park it's owned by the federal government

[0:33:47] Trustee Middleton: as part of the park reserve but king islet was included in the same mapping but is in fact as

[0:33:53] Trustee Middleton: brad just pointed out a um a private lot it's uh it's uh uh it's not part of the national park so

[0:34:01] Trustee Middleton: the the zoning pre-national park carried over to king but which was not of course as brad pointed

[0:34:08] Trustee Middleton: out the correct zoning because it now has house on it and accommodation and it's it's not it's

[0:34:13] Trustee Middleton: not wilderness reserve which was sort of the pre-park zoning so that this just corrects that it

[0:34:18] Trustee Middleton: doesn't afford any additional um rights shall we say it just corrects for the use that is um

[0:34:28] Trustee Middleton: is currently in place and i

[0:34:33] Trustee Middleton: guess just as a last comment most of our islets if not all of the

[0:34:36] Trustee Middleton: islets in in the saturn local trust area are in fact protected by by the national park or the

[0:34:44] Trustee Middleton: marine reserve with the exception i think of samuel island which is you know has its own sort

[0:34:49] Trustee Middleton: of form of protection as a trust um but uh yeah so it's kind of a unique situation pretty well

[0:34:55] Trustee Middleton: all the islets are are in the national park reserve in the local trust area so you'll just

[0:35:01] Voice 2: have a little

[0:35:02] Voice 2: donut hole in the zoning of one private lot nope

[0:35:05] Trustee Patrick: that's good to know uh that's

[0:35:07] Trustee Patrick: not the case around the north pender and salt spring for some reason okay um with that if there's

[0:35:16] Trustee Patrick: no are there no other corrections or changes that you want to make you want to move through the

[0:35:21] Trustee Patrick: readings or are the motions and

[0:35:24] Voice 2: like i said trustee

[0:35:25] Voice 2: middleton it would be helpful if you uh

[0:35:28] Voice 2: summarized even what you were thinking around the yurt so that staff have that uh

[0:35:32] uh

[0:35:32] Voice 2: i

[0:35:34] Trustee Middleton: think yeah it wasn't it wasn't my thinking that some so i think it's

[0:35:40] Trustee Middleton: if you're not

[0:35:40] Voice 2: ready to do that that's fine too

[0:35:42] Trustee Middleton: and building

[0:35:43] Voice 2: your if and when you're ready to

[0:35:45] Voice 2: bring anything forward over the next couple

[0:35:47] Trustee Middleton: months and so they felt or in their preliminary

[0:35:51] Trustee Middleton: discussions with the building inspector there was some concern that a yurt would have a maximum size

[0:35:58] Trustee Middleton: in the interpretation of the land use bylaws

[0:36:00] Trustee Middleton: where the land use bylaw is silent on that topic.

[0:36:03] Trustee Middleton: And so perhaps expanding the definition

[0:36:07] Trustee Middleton: to talk about the size would be useful,

[0:36:09] Trustee Middleton: but I've got to get this person

[0:36:12] Trustee Middleton: to be a little more specific

[0:36:13] Trustee Middleton: in what they're running into

[0:36:14] Trustee Middleton: before I would make suggestions

[0:36:16] Trustee Middleton: that we adjust the land use bylaw.

[0:36:18] Trustee Middleton: So hopefully the public hearing process

[0:36:20] Trustee Middleton: can tease that out.

[0:36:22] Trustee Middleton: And if not, it'll just stay as is.

[0:36:24] Voice 2: Sounds good.

[0:36:25] Voice 2: Thank you, Trustee Mills.

[0:36:26] Voice 2: So

[0:36:27] Voice 8: I'm going to make the motion that the Saturna Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 133, cited as Saturna Island Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 72,000, Amendment No. 1, 2021, be read a first time.

[0:36:41] Voice 8: Is

[0:36:41] Trustee Patrick: there a second?

[0:36:42] Voice 8: And I

[0:36:43] Trustee Middleton: will second that.

[0:36:45] Trustee Patrick: All right. Any discussion? I'll call the vote then. All those in favor? And there we go. That's carried.

[0:36:55] Trustee Patrick: so there's a whole bunch of motions there if you wanted who wants to keep going

[0:37:01] Trustee Middleton: i i if um i had to turn my screen off here but i i move that the saturn island local trust committee

[0:37:08] Trustee Middleton: bylaw number one three four cited as saturn island land use bylaw number 119 2018 amendment number

[0:37:15] Trustee Middleton: one 2021 be read the first time

[0:37:18] Trustee Patrick: i'll

[0:37:19] Trustee Middleton: second that any

[0:37:20] Trustee Patrick: discussion i'll call the vote all those in

[0:37:23] Trustee Patrick: favor and that's carried too and

[0:37:29] Voice 8: i will move that the citroen antelope trust committee has

[0:37:32] Voice 8: reviewed the island stress policy statement directed policies checklist and determine

[0:37:36] Voice 8: the proposed byline number 133 and 134 are not contrary to or at variance with the island's

[0:37:40] Voice 8: trust policy statement

[0:37:42] Trustee Middleton: second

[0:37:43] Trustee Patrick: i

[0:37:46] Trustee Middleton: i second that any

[0:37:48] Trustee Patrick: discussion sorry all those in favor uh that's

[0:37:54] Trustee Patrick: carried um

[0:37:56] Trustee Middleton: now i will further move that the saturnine local trust committee direct staff

[0:38:04] Trustee Middleton: to schedule a public hearing for bylaws number 133 and 134 following the completion of agency

[0:38:11] Trustee Middleton: and first nations referrals to which i will second any

[0:38:15] Trustee Patrick: discussion i'll call the vote all

[0:38:17] Trustee Patrick: those in favor that too is carried and

[0:38:21] Voice 8: then i will move the saturnine local trust committee

[0:38:23] Voice 8: direct staff to schedule community information meeting in conjunction with the public hearing

[0:38:26] Voice 8: for bylaws number 133 and 134. is

[0:38:31] Trustee Patrick: that seconded and

[0:38:32] Trustee Middleton: i i second that any

[0:38:34] Trustee Patrick: discussion i'll call the

[0:38:36] Trustee Patrick: vote all those in favor and that's carried made it through that one

[0:38:41] Trustee Patrick: thank you

[0:38:42] Voice 8: staff for your

[0:38:43] Voice 8: quick work on that yes

[0:38:45] Trustee Middleton: thank you that that's a very it's a very good report and it's very good

[0:38:49] Trustee Middleton: It's exactly what I think was envisaged as an update to the land use

[0:38:52] Trustee Middleton: bylaws to make them more accurate and clearer.

[0:38:55] Trustee Middleton: I think it's very good work.

[0:38:56] Trustee Middleton: So thank you very much.

[0:38:58] Voice 2: Thank you, trustees.

[0:39:00] Trustee Patrick: Okay.

[0:39:02] Trustee Patrick: So moving on, we have our top priorities report on page 46.

[0:39:12] Trustee Patrick: Any changes at this time?

[0:39:14] Trustee Patrick: I

[0:39:15] Voice 8: have a question.

[0:39:16] Voice 8: Do we know where we are with respect to the minister signing or the

[0:39:22] Voice 8: referrals coming in on number one?

[0:39:28] Voice 8: didn't we get

[0:39:31] Voice 7: you adopted those by rwm i think i think that's done

[0:39:35] Voice 7: so i think one and three

[0:39:36] Voice 7: are done we just have to consolidate the bylaws internally and repost them and so on but if

[0:39:43] Voice 7: there's no um you know follow-up implementation or anything that needs to be done with with those

[0:39:49] Voice 7: um you can remove them from the from the work program okay

[0:39:54] Voice 8: that's good now just just curious

[0:39:56] Voice 8: and uh i know brad's busy with galliano island so i'm not in a hurry to to put uh any top priorities

[0:40:04] Voice 8: on on the list i think we have to be kind be calm and be generous in respect of galliano and brad

[0:40:14] Voice 2: i'm archiving these two as we speak

[0:40:17] Trustee Patrick: do we need a motion to remove them

[0:40:19] Trustee Patrick: a resolution as

[0:40:20] Voice 7: long as the trustees as long as there's consensus so

[0:40:23] Trustee Patrick: we have a through general

[0:40:24] Trustee Patrick: consent will remove item one and three from the priority list is that correct all right

[0:40:31] Voice 6: check

[0:40:32] Trustee Patrick: lauren caught that okay then we have the projects list is there

[0:40:38] Trustee Patrick: there's a whole lot of things on the projects there too

[0:40:46] Voice 8: i'm fine yeah

[0:40:48] Trustee Patrick: i think it's um i it'll be interesting uh we should ask probably um

[0:40:53] Trustee Patrick: uh william shulba where the province is on that um saltwater intrusion work that they're doing

[0:41:04] Trustee Patrick: is probably of high interest to you and i don't know where they are the province was doing that

[0:41:09] Trustee Patrick: project it'd be nice to know when that's going to come out so we should just find out is that

[0:41:18] Voice 2: something you'd like me to find out

[0:41:20] Trustee Patrick: i'd look to the trustees i assume you're interested in that

[0:41:25] Trustee Patrick: that as well yeah

[0:41:25] Trustee Middleton: for sure no that would be great yeah

[0:41:27] Trustee Patrick: if we can maybe get an update on

[0:41:29] Trustee Patrick: the expected timeline for the province's uh saltwater intrusion project that they were doing

[0:41:35] Trustee Patrick: you know

[0:41:37] Trustee Patrick: it's been underway for a long time i'll check in

[0:41:40] Voice 2: with william all

[0:41:45] Voice 5: right yeah

[0:41:47] Trustee Middleton: and i think

[0:41:47] Trustee Middleton: the the project list yeah i'm comfortable with it as well i think the shoreline review

[0:41:56] Trustee Middleton: There's a very good report, it's in the agenda or the package and we'll get to it.

[0:42:01] Trustee Middleton: I guess we'll receive it, but keeping that there and seeing if there's anything we might

[0:42:08] Trustee Middleton: do before the end of the term would be fine.

[0:42:11] Trustee Middleton: That's certainly not in the realm of creating new bylaws or anything like that, obviously

[0:42:17] Trustee Middleton: has a process that has to go through, but no, I think I'm comfortable with what's in

[0:42:22] Trustee Middleton: this section.

[0:42:27] Trustee Middleton: projects section yeah

[0:42:28] Trustee Patrick: i think there's

[0:42:29] Voice 8: not the fact that we have you know what six months left

[0:42:32] Voice 8: in the term i'm fine with it too i

[0:42:35] Trustee Patrick: think there's a good opportunity thetis is ahead and i think

[0:42:38] Trustee Patrick: south pender's behind is next in line as i'm working on an innovative approach to the shoreline

[0:42:44] Trustee Patrick: review like on thetis i know they're we're taking a step with first nations going around the shore

[0:42:50] Trustee Patrick: lines with them to talk about their interests and and building a community dialogue paper to

[0:42:58] Trustee Patrick: just talk about all the options and things and do it in a you know and i think south pender is close

[0:43:04] Trustee Patrick: to that a similar approach so i think saturn will benefit as these these papers are written and the

[0:43:10] Trustee Patrick: options are explored further and conversations with first nations of opportunities okay

[0:43:18] Trustee Patrick: Okay, applications list then.

[0:43:20] Trustee Patrick: Any questions on any of the applications?

[0:43:22] Trustee Patrick: You have two, we'll send you some.

[0:43:29] Trustee Patrick: So no questions?

[0:43:31] Trustee Patrick: All right, then going on,

[0:43:34] Trustee Patrick: then we have an expense report in December here.

[0:43:39] Trustee Patrick: Policy-

[0:43:40] Voice 8: It's depressing when my bar bill is bigger

[0:43:42] Voice 8: than our spent expenses for the year.

[0:43:47] Trustee Patrick: Well, you've got zero spent too,

[0:43:49] Trustee Patrick: except for a meeting expenses, so that's there.

[0:43:55] Trustee Patrick: all right um so going on we have um we have the conservation report here it's always good to read

[0:44:07] Trustee Patrick: and uh now we'll go and we have the shoreline protection model bylaw report here on page 57

[0:44:12] Trustee Patrick: i don't know anyone's going to say anything about that uh

[0:44:18] Voice 8: we should receive them they're good

[0:44:21] Voice 8: reports uh

[0:44:24] Trustee Middleton: yeah i thought it was a very good report as well and um receiving it for there

[0:44:30] Trustee Middleton: might be something

[0:44:31] Trustee Middleton: we do with it before the end of the term just because i know the high water

[0:44:35] Trustee Middleton: event in november caused some fairly significant damage to some of the shoreline along me and i

[0:44:42] Trustee Middleton: ended up talking to a marine engineer that i i used to share the office next to her and she um

[0:44:48] Trustee Middleton: yeah, it's very interesting what kind of, I guess, building resilience to the future might

[0:44:59] Trustee Middleton: look like. And so this report speaks to it in depth. So I'm going to study it further,

[0:45:04] Trustee Middleton: and there might be something that we want to bring forward. So I thought it was a very good

[0:45:08] Trustee Middleton: report. So happy to currently just receive it for information.

[0:45:14] Trustee Patrick: All right, we'll just receive

[0:45:15] Trustee Patrick: that for information then the next one is the meeting procedure bylaws i'll

[0:45:22] Voice 7: speak to that one

[0:45:22] Voice 7: thank you so this is the meeting procedure new meeting procedure bylaw that would primarily the

[0:45:28] Voice 7: purpose is to allow the local trust committee to hold regular meetings electronically so you don't

[0:45:33] Voice 7: have to do what you're doing right now two of you sitting in the hall um this version that's

[0:45:38] Voice 7: attached also includes the latest model bylaw that was adopted by salt spring a few years ago

[0:45:44] Voice 7: it has a number of other um sections um on um public presentations public delegations order

[0:45:53] Voice 7: decorum and so on um those are sections 18 through 40 and a number of local trust committees

[0:45:59] Voice 7: have removed those sections because they felt they needed further public consultation before

[0:46:05] Voice 7: they were would adopt those so if the ltc this ltc feels the same you can just revise the bylaw by

[0:46:11] Voice 7: by removing sections 18 through 40

[0:46:13] Voice 7: and doesn't affect anything else in the by-law

[0:46:15] Voice 7: and then give it readings

[0:46:17] Voice 7: and that would allow electronic meetings to proceed

[0:46:20] Voice 7: or you can adopt it as presented a number of local chart,

[0:46:23] Voice 7: give it readings as presented

[0:46:24] Voice 7: on purple trust committees have done that.

[0:46:28] Voice 8: Well, I get a move

[0:46:29] Voice 8: that we amend by-law number 135

[0:46:33] Voice 8: to remove sections 18 through 40.

[0:46:36] Trustee Patrick: Is there a second?

[0:46:40] Trustee Patrick: Second by

[0:46:40] Voice 8: Trustee Middleton,

[0:46:42] Trustee Patrick: any discussion?

[0:46:43] Trustee Patrick: Any discussion?

[0:46:43] Trustee Patrick: Yes,

[0:46:44] Trustee Middleton: second and right.

[0:46:46] Trustee Patrick: Any discussion?

[0:46:48] Trustee Patrick: So then I'll call the vote.

[0:46:49] Trustee Patrick: All those in favor?

[0:46:50] Trustee Patrick: And that's carried.

[0:46:53] Trustee Patrick: Any further amendments or?

[0:46:58] Trustee Middleton: Just moving through with the follow on resolutions,

[0:47:02] Trustee Middleton: I'll move that the Saturn Island Local Trust Committee

[0:47:04] Trustee Middleton: by-law number 135,

[0:47:06] Trustee Middleton: cited the Saturn Island Local Trust Committee

[0:47:09] Trustee Middleton: meeting procedure by-law number 135, 2022

[0:47:12] Trustee Middleton: be read a second time.

[0:47:14] Trustee Middleton: as

[0:47:14] Trustee Patrick: amended you have to read

[0:47:16] Voice 7: it the first you have to read it the

[0:47:17] Trustee Patrick: first time first time first time

[0:47:18] Trustee Patrick: and as amended i'll

[0:47:21] Voice 8: do the first time that's the turn on a local trust committee bylaw number 135

[0:47:24] Voice 8: said it is to turn on a local trust committee meeting procedure bylaw number 135 2022 as

[0:47:31] Voice 8: amended be read a first time all

[0:47:34] Trustee Patrick: right is that seconded seconded by trustee middleton any

[0:47:40] Trustee Patrick: Any discussion?

[0:47:42] Trustee Middleton: Second that, yes.

[0:47:44] Trustee Patrick: All the, that's all right.

[0:47:46] Trustee Patrick: It's awkward having these time delays.

[0:47:48] Trustee Patrick: You'd think it wouldn't be, but it is.

[0:47:51] Trustee Patrick: So call the vote, then all those in favor.

[0:47:54] Trustee Patrick: And that's carried.

[0:47:58] Trustee Middleton: All right, so we're now back to, so number two,

[0:48:01] Trustee Middleton: we just need to insert the phrase as amended

[0:48:04] Trustee Middleton: before we read

[0:48:05] Voice 7: the second time, is that correct?

[0:48:06] Voice 7: You've already read it the first time as amended.

[0:48:08] Voice 7: So you only have to, yeah, now it's amended.

[0:48:11] Voice 7: it until so just give me just give me a second reading okay good good i

[0:48:16] Voice 8: seconded it oh geez

[0:48:19] Trustee Middleton: chaos and confusion going on here with my sound system i apologize i'm operating five minutes

[0:48:26] Trustee Middleton: back with the echo and anticipating five minutes forward and my poor brain cannot handle it um

[0:48:33] Trustee Middleton: so chair could you just refresh where the heck we are and what we're doing uh

[0:48:39] Trustee Patrick: we need to read it a

[0:48:40] Trustee Patrick: second time and we don't have to say as amended hang

[0:48:43] Trustee Middleton: on can you say that again sorry i didn't

[0:48:45] Trustee Middleton: have the microphone speaker on

[0:48:46] Trustee Patrick: uh we're at motion number two and you don't have to say as amended

[0:48:53] Trustee Middleton: okay do i need to read it again

[0:48:56] Voice 6: yes okay

[0:48:59] Trustee Middleton: um i moved that the saturn island local trust committee

[0:49:03] Trustee Middleton: bylaw number 135 cited as saturn island local trust committee meeting procedure bylaw number 135

[0:49:08] Trustee Middleton: 5 2022 be read a second time

[0:49:12] Trustee Patrick: that's seconded i'll have any discussion call the vote all those in

[0:49:17] Trustee Patrick: favor and that's carried

[0:49:20] Voice 6: all right

[0:49:31] Trustee Patrick: i heard that is that seconded i

[0:49:33] Trustee Middleton: second that yes any discussion

[0:49:35] Trustee Patrick: i'll call the vote all those in favor and that's carried and

[0:49:41] Trustee Middleton: then finally make sure my microphone

[0:49:44] Trustee Middleton: phone is on here yes it is okay um i moved that saturn island local committee bylaw number 135

[0:49:51] Trustee Middleton: cited this local saturn island local trust committee um meeting procedures bylaw number

[0:49:59] Trustee Middleton: 135 2021 be forwarded to the secretary of the islands trust for approval by the executive

[0:50:05] Trustee Middleton: committee i

[0:50:06] Trustee Patrick: will

[0:50:07] Trustee Middleton: second that thank

[0:50:08] Trustee Patrick: you seconded by trustee brent um any discussion i'll call the

[0:50:11] Trustee Patrick: vote all those in favor and that's carried too all right so go through uh get that back get that

[0:50:20] Trustee Patrick: adopted and then we don't have to do the silliness of having the two of you sit in the hall to make

[0:50:25] Trustee Patrick: a meeting go okay so that uh brings us uh i guess to uh is there any other new business then i'll

[0:50:34] Trustee Patrick: check before i carry on no and um we have our revised uh meeting schedule is here for approval

[0:50:45] Trustee Patrick: oh july 21st i know i'll probably have but uh we can always look at having someone else

[0:50:55] Trustee Patrick: that meeting oh go ahead trustee brent

[0:50:58] Voice 8: questions so we have a meeting on october 20th

[0:51:01] Voice 8: the elections on october 15th so the new trustees won't be won't be um won't

[0:51:13] Voice 7: be sworn in no thank

[0:51:15] Voice 8: you you're

[0:51:15] Trustee Patrick: still a trustee until november 1st or okay or

[0:51:21] Trustee Patrick: halloween it

[0:51:23] Voice 8: just seems weird

[0:51:24] Voice 8: and

[0:51:27] Trustee Patrick: i may have some challenges on the 21st of july with the family wedding if that all proceeds

[0:51:33] Trustee Patrick: scenes and all this stuff but we'll see possibly I could probably come in electronically that's

[0:51:39] Trustee Patrick: necessary too all

[0:51:41] Trustee Middleton: right and just about April 7th I if I can join electronically that might be best

[0:51:48] Trustee Middleton: like I'm going to be in Ontario and I would just delay my travel a day so that I could

[0:51:53] Trustee Middleton: back here to join the meeting electronically if that's possible I think it is with that amendment

[0:51:58] Trustee Middleton: the amended bylaws but um i just want to verify that if not i can i can come back a day earlier

[0:52:04] Trustee Middleton: and attend the meeting on saturn that's

[0:52:07] Voice 7: possible for one trustee up to one trustee to attend

[0:52:11] Voice 7: electronically now as trustee patrick is doing and with the uh with the amendment we get it

[0:52:17] Voice 7: adopted by rwm at a

[0:52:19] Voice 7: time then the whole meeting could be held electronically okay okay

[0:52:24] Trustee Patrick: so do we

[0:52:26] Trustee Patrick: need a motion to um adopt this revised schedule yes

[0:52:33] Voice 8: so

[0:52:34] Trustee Patrick: one of you can make a motion

[0:52:35] Voice 8: we do that

[0:52:36] Voice 8: by consent sure

[0:52:37] Trustee Patrick: yes we can so through general consent can we approve the the schedule excellent

[0:52:44] Trustee Patrick: that's done then that means our next meeting would be april 7th and this is a second opportunity for

[0:52:52] Trustee Patrick: uh we have one person that has stuck with us in the attendees list here uh if you want to talk to

[0:52:58] Trustee Patrick: us uh at the second town hall you just have to raise your hand at the center of the screen on

[0:53:03] Trustee Patrick: the bottom and we can turn your microphone on and i'm not seeing this person waving us down so again

[0:53:13] Trustee Patrick: your feedback and comments are important and uh please always reach out to your

[0:53:21] Trustee Patrick: trustees okay so with that perhaps they're perhaps they're listening

[0:53:27] Voice 8: because they want to be a

[0:53:29] Voice 8: trustee

[0:53:30] Trustee Patrick: let's hope so

[0:53:31] Trustee Patrick: oh i see okay well we won't know um i i hope we didn't scare them

[0:53:39] Trustee Patrick: okay uh if that we just need a motion to adjourn

[0:53:43] Voice 8: i'll move adjournment

[0:53:44] Trustee Patrick: second

[0:53:45] Voice 8: second man great

[0:53:47] Trustee Patrick: and then all those in favor and we are adjourned all right well thank

[0:53:52] Trustee Middleton: you everyone thank you everyone see

[0:53:54] Trustee Patrick: you on april 7th thank

[0:53:57] Trustee Middleton: you all appreciate it thanks bye-bye

[0:53:59] Trustee Middleton: have a

[0:54:00] Voice 2: good afternoon everyone bye um

[0:54:04] Trustee Patrick: trusty patrick oh yes thanks robin