Hornby Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, February 18, 2022

[0:00:09] Voice 5: Okay,

[0:00:13] Voice 3: and we're streaming.

[0:00:15] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay.

[0:00:16] Trustee Fast (probable): Well, welcome everybody to the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee meeting of February the 18th, 2022.

[0:00:24] Trustee Fast (probable): And this meeting is being held electronically because of changes in the COVID situation.

[0:00:30] Trustee Fast (probable): But we've got a full agenda in front of us here.

[0:00:32] Trustee Fast (probable): And so I'll take us into the getting started part of the morning.

[0:00:40] Trustee Fast (probable): And first, I want to begin by acknowledging that we're fortunate to be gathering today in and across locations on the traditional territories of Coast Salish peoples.

[0:00:51] Trustee Fast (probable): And I'm Sue Ellen Fast. I'm elected on Nuhlelekhwem, also called Kualakam or Bowen Island over in Howe Sound.

[0:00:59] Trustee Fast (probable): And I'm the chair of the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee as a vice chair of Islands Trust.

[0:01:05] Trustee Fast (probable): and I'm joined today by the Hornby Island local uh trustees Grant Scott there is he waving yes

[0:01:14] Trustee Fast (probable): and Alex Allen are you there Alex

[0:01:17] Trustee Allen: sorry I just have a phone call about somebody who can't get

[0:01:20] Trustee Allen: connected to this meeting right now can

[0:01:23] Trustee Fast (probable): you ask him to phone um Will Cottingham and uh or and

[0:01:29] Trustee Fast (probable): she's at what's

[0:01:30] Trustee Allen: the number that's a good question

[0:01:33] Trustee Allen: oh sorry because they're they're talking away in

[0:01:37] Trustee Allen: the machine right now you

[0:01:38] Voice 12: know what ask them to call uh 250-325-9094 okay

[0:01:46] Trustee Allen: sorry about that i'll

[0:01:47] Trustee Allen: just quickly do that okay okay

[0:01:48] Trustee Fast (probable): so that's trustee allen on the job and um we're hoping to have

[0:01:54] Trustee Fast (probable): everybody uh connected to the meeting who can be part uh who can participate today and uh if you

[0:02:00] Trustee Fast (probable): you can't uh join the this island this zoom webinar then um you can be watching on live stream

[0:02:08] Trustee Fast (probable): uh or it's being recorded so you can watch it later and uh so it'll be available under the

[0:02:15] Trustee Fast (probable): video on demand button on the islands trust website and um when if you're having trouble

[0:02:22] Trustee Fast (probable): trouble connecting call the number that you just heard or uh email northinfo at islandstrust.bc.ca

[0:02:31] Trustee Fast (probable): and uh that will connect you to will coddingham who is uh organizing our meeting uh today she's

[0:02:38] Trustee Fast (probable): up there at um now web no web host anyway she's part of our meeting today behind the scenes

[0:02:46] Trustee Fast (probable): running the meeting. So you've already heard her voice. When we get to the town hall portion of

[0:02:53] Trustee Fast (probable): the meeting, I'm hoping for participation. This is participatory democracy. So we have the expert

[0:02:59] Trustee Fast (probable): advice of our professional staff. And we have we elected officials, the three of us, and we have

[0:03:07] Trustee Fast (probable): you the public who can inform our decisions as well with your input. And so this is the way that

[0:03:16] Trustee Fast (probable): you can connect is when we get to the town hall portion of the meeting if you'd like to raise your

[0:03:21] Trustee Fast (probable): digital hand that's down at the bottom of your screen probably or if you're on a phone you can

[0:03:27] Trustee Fast (probable): press star 9 to raise your hand and star 6 to unmute so we appreciate everybody's understanding

[0:03:35] Trustee Fast (probable): and assistance in this digital meeting situation and we hope everybody's able to connect

[0:03:41] Trustee Fast (probable): and if you can't connect um uh please try again to email northinfo at islandstrust.bc.ca and

[0:03:51] Trustee Fast (probable): will cottingham will try and help you um actually

[0:03:54] Voice 12: chair fast can you ask

[0:03:56] Voice 12: him to call to email

[0:03:57] Voice 12: w cottingham oh okay islandstrust.bc.ca just because i don't have access to that other

[0:04:06] Voice 12: their mailbox right now right w-c-o-t-t-i-n-g-h-a-m at islandstrust.bc.ca

[0:04:15] Voice 12: thank

[0:04:17] Trustee Fast (probable): you this is part of our challenges is that many of us are working from home

[0:04:22] Trustee Fast (probable): we don't have access to all the systems uh that we would usually have and uh and it also means

[0:04:29] Trustee Fast (probable): that we may have, dogs barking, people that live in the house walking in, other things calling on

[0:04:40] Trustee Fast (probable): us. So please bear with us as we all try to run a good community business meeting here. And I'm

[0:04:50] Trustee Fast (probable): going to go back to my notes here. Will Cottingham has just introduced herself here. She's our office

[0:04:56] Trustee Fast (probable): administrative assistant. She's hosting the meeting for at least the first part. Catherine

[0:05:01] Trustee Fast (probable): Vogt is our minute taker, a professional minute taker. So she's behind the scenes as well. Thank

[0:05:07] Trustee Fast (probable): you, Catherine. And she's listening and she'll be taking the recording the minutes so that we

[0:05:12] Trustee Fast (probable): have a detailed record for the future. Heather Cowers, our regional planning manager,

[0:05:18] Trustee Fast (probable): and she's acting as our island planner. So she we're lucky to have her. She's the

[0:05:23] Trustee Fast (probable): the um uh the big boss of planning and she is um uh bringing on new staff and organizing the work

[0:05:33] Trustee Fast (probable): um but also being island planner for Hornby and we've also got um planner Teresa Mahikwa

[0:05:40] Trustee Fast (probable): uh good morning Teresa with us she'll be presenting some of the um uh reports that

[0:05:46] Trustee Fast (probable): that are in front of us today.

[0:05:48] Trustee Fast (probable): And so this is an official forum.

[0:05:52] Trustee Fast (probable): It's under the Local Government Act

[0:05:54] Trustee Fast (probable): and the Community Charter Laws of the province.

[0:05:57] Trustee Fast (probable): This is acting as part of and under the Islands Trust Act

[0:06:02] Trustee Fast (probable): to carry out the community business about land use planning

[0:06:06] Trustee Fast (probable): and preserving and protecting the Islands Trust area.

[0:06:11] Trustee Fast (probable): And so it's an official forum for the local committee

[0:06:15] Trustee Fast (probable): to make decisions about these matters and discuss relevant business and I also want to add it's a

[0:06:21] Trustee Fast (probable): place of employment despite the fact that many staff are in their own homes everybody has a right

[0:06:27] Trustee Fast (probable): to a respectful and a safe workplace so I'm going to ask everybody to bear with us I know even

[0:06:34] Trustee Fast (probable): Canada-wide this is a kind of fraught period and people might have passions and problems and

[0:06:43] Trustee Fast (probable): and parts of their worlds that might be impacting their dialogue.

[0:06:50] Trustee Fast (probable): And I'm hoping everybody can make sure that everybody is heard

[0:06:58] Trustee Fast (probable): and valued and have a safe and respectful meeting today.

[0:07:04] Trustee Fast (probable): So we appreciate you helping us, keeping it open

[0:07:07] Trustee Fast (probable): and good for the community and good for the future.

[0:07:11] Trustee Fast (probable): uh so i'm going to um now make sure i didn't miss anything that's right and so uh as we go

[0:07:21] Trustee Fast (probable): along through the meeting um we'll be following uh the agenda that's hosted on the uh posted on

[0:07:29] Trustee Fast (probable): the islands trust website and everybody can go there to get a copy if you'd like islands trust

[0:07:34] Trustee Fast (probable): at bc.ca and um this uh agenda uh just to introduce it today we've got a number of uh

[0:07:42] Trustee Fast (probable): a whole bunch of business on it because our last meeting had to be a quick

[0:07:47] Trustee Fast (probable): electronic one and we couldn't cover all the items.

[0:07:51] Trustee Fast (probable): So we've got a big agenda in front of us today with a break scheduled for

[0:07:56] Trustee Fast (probable): 1245 for lunch until one 15.

[0:07:59] Trustee Fast (probable): We'll see how that works out exactly because the agenda always moves around a

[0:08:03] Trustee Fast (probable): little bit. And I just want to check here.

[0:08:10] Trustee Fast (probable): yeah the order might move around and uh anything um anything trustees let's move to the called the

[0:08:18] Trustee Fast (probable): meeting to order let's move to item two approval of the agenda is there anything we want to add

[0:08:23] Trustee Fast (probable): to the agenda today no i've we've uh got quite a bit to do on here and uh and there's no closed

[0:08:32] Trustee Fast (probable): meeting today um so we're going to move on then by consent we've approved the agenda okay and uh

[0:08:40] Trustee Fast (probable): Two reports, trustee reports.

[0:08:42] Trustee Fast (probable): Who would like to start?

[0:08:45] Trustee Scott (probable): Go ahead, Grant.

[0:08:47] Trustee Scott (probable): Okay, thank you.

[0:08:49] Trustee Scott (probable): There's two, I think, trust council issues I'd like to briefly touch on here, and then one more local one.

[0:08:56] Trustee Scott (probable): So the next trust council meeting is coming up.

[0:09:01] Trustee Scott (probable): Is that March the, what is it?

[0:09:04] Trustee Scott (probable): 8th

[0:09:05] Trustee Fast (probable): to the 10th.

[0:09:06] Trustee Scott (probable): Yeah, 8th to the 10th, right.

[0:09:08] Trustee Scott (probable): In Nanaimo.

[0:09:09] Trustee Scott (probable): Yeah, in Nanaimo.

[0:09:10] Trustee Scott (probable): And I think the biggest issue on there is the budget.

[0:09:14] Trustee Scott (probable): The budget will be proposed,

[0:09:18] Trustee Scott (probable): presumably to be hopefully approved.

[0:09:22] Trustee Scott (probable): And there's a lot of discussion around that budget

[0:09:25] Trustee Scott (probable): as to the increases over the last few years.

[0:09:27] Trustee Scott (probable): And I know there's a lot of concerns

[0:09:29] Trustee Scott (probable): on a lot of the islands and on Army,

[0:09:32] Trustee Scott (probable): I've certainly heard about it as well.

[0:09:35] Trustee Scott (probable): Obviously taxes are a big issue to people

[0:09:37] Trustee Scott (probable): And they're important, not only the organizations that need the money to run the businesses like trust, but for the people have to pay for it and are the people that are paying for it feel they're getting good value for their money.

[0:09:51] Trustee Scott (probable): So I think it's going to be a very interesting discussion. And it's, I just want to say, I think it's on the Wednesday.

[0:09:58] Trustee Scott (probable): day so i think people are listening out there and they and part of that trust council meeting if

[0:10:03] Trustee Scott (probable): they're interested in hearing more about the budget and the issues around it i'm sure it's

[0:10:09] Trustee Scott (probable): going to get a lot of debate um at that trust council meeting in um so i think it's on wednesday

[0:10:17] Trustee Scott (probable): the 9th is the main discussion around the budget so that will be coming out soon so check to see

[0:10:22] Trustee Scott (probable): that that is exactly when you're interested the increases a lot of people are concerned about

[0:10:28] Trustee Scott (probable): those increases and i've heard about it on burnby as well the other thing that's that's a great

[0:10:33] Trustee Scott (probable): debate is that the policy statement and as some folks know there's a draft out there because it

[0:10:42] Trustee Scott (probable): hasn't been redone in 25 years or so so it's time and it's kind of a guiding visionary document that

[0:10:49] Trustee Scott (probable): states what what the trust sees itself doing over the next while and um so there's a draft out there

[0:10:56] Trustee Scott (probable): that uh it's 35 or 37 pages long and i feel personally as i know a lot of other people feel

[0:11:04] Trustee Scott (probable): the same way it's too long it's too complicated it's too convoluted it's not it's not written

[0:11:10] Trustee Scott (probable): as a i think the big question there is who's it so i don't you're about to say something who's it

[0:11:16] Trustee Scott (probable): it written for and i think yeah

[0:11:19] Trustee Scott (probable): we

[0:11:20] Trustee Fast (probable): got a lot of business to cover and um all

[0:11:22] Trustee Scott (probable): right like you want

[0:11:24] Trustee Fast (probable): me to

[0:11:24] Trustee Scott (probable): stop suelen you want me to stop no

[0:11:26] Trustee Fast (probable): i want you to give us an update what

[0:11:30] Voice 3: you've been up to

[0:11:30] Voice 3: i quit that's enough

[0:11:33] Trustee Fast (probable): you've been doing the herring festival you usually tell us about that

[0:11:38] Trustee Fast (probable): no

[0:11:39] Trustee Scott (probable): i'm done i'm done suelen thank you

[0:11:41] Trustee Fast (probable): okay trustee alan yeah

[0:11:44] Trustee Allen: i'll just um follow up on

[0:11:46] Trustee Allen: um trustee scott's i'll just say like yes we're entering phase three of the public engagement

[0:11:52] Trustee Allen: on the policy statement amendment project which started way back in 2019 so just um everybody

[0:11:59] Trustee Allen: look out in the next uh between march and april they're going to be doing a so-called robust

[0:12:03] Trustee Allen: public engagement there'll be virtual live q and a's community workshops focus groups um

[0:12:10] Trustee Allen: community discussion guides pop-ups etc etc and then in may in may we'll be getting a summary

[0:12:17] Trustee Allen: which will be completed and posted on the website.

[0:12:20] Trustee Allen: So if you, obviously there's been lots of correspondence

[0:12:25] Trustee Allen: out there regarding the policy state review

[0:12:28] Trustee Allen: for many people concerned.

[0:12:31] Trustee Allen: So please contact, if you want to email,

[0:12:35] Trustee Allen: it's islands20502050

[0:12:39] Trustee Allen: at islandstrust.bc.ca.

[0:12:42] Trustee Allen: And note when you do send something, it becomes Publix.

[0:12:45] Trustee Allen: So if you don't want your comments shared,

[0:12:47] Trustee Allen: shared, do not do that. Share it another way, town hall or something, or privately with

[0:12:52] Trustee Allen: a trustee in a co-op or something. And then it's funny because I realized I said the exact

[0:13:01] Trustee Allen: same thing at the last trustee report in December, but that's okay. It was two months ago. And

[0:13:07] Trustee Allen: then once again, just a heads up on stewardship words are going to be returning. We had a

[0:13:12] Trustee Allen: little reprieve from them back in 2020, but we all agreed to bring them back again and

[0:13:18] Trustee Allen: and maybe have them as the last year of each term.

[0:13:22] Trustee Allen: So we know that we've had many members of the community

[0:13:25] Trustee Allen: that have been voted for Community Stewardship Award

[0:13:27] Trustee Allen: in groups and stuff.

[0:13:28] Trustee Allen: And so I'd urge you all to think about

[0:13:31] Trustee Allen: our great community members and groups and celebrate them.

[0:13:35] Trustee Allen: And I know from the last two years,

[0:13:36] Trustee Allen: there's so many amazing resilience

[0:13:39] Trustee Allen: and I can't think of another word

[0:13:42] Trustee Allen: cause I'm kind of tired as usual.

[0:13:45] Trustee Allen: Just the way that people stepped up plates

[0:13:47] Trustee Allen: and dealt with so much of this.

[0:13:50] Trustee Allen: we're you know challenging times right now so uh yeah that's what i'm going to say we do have a

[0:13:55] Trustee Allen: big agenda ahead of us and um yeah and if you have any questions regarding the policy statement or

[0:14:00] Trustee Allen: out of contact or whatever and more information just feel free to reach out to trustee scamp

[0:14:05] Trustee Allen: all right thank you thank

[0:14:08] Trustee Fast (probable): you very much uh trustee allen and um i'll just uh briefly say

[0:14:13] Trustee Fast (probable): as a member of the executive committee i've been in a number of executive committee

[0:14:18] Trustee Fast (probable): committee uh meetings and we prepare the uh agenda for trust council which is the

[0:14:23] Trustee Fast (probable): big meeting coming up march 8th the 10th in Nanaimo in person if you want or um we'll be

[0:14:30] Trustee Fast (probable): streaming it in a some kind of zoom webinar format um so that it becomes a hybrid meeting

[0:14:39] Trustee Fast (probable): worked well last time so i'm uh looking forward to that and to seeing some people in person again

[0:14:45] Trustee Fast (probable): again, trustees. On that agenda, as well as the ones that Trustee Scott and Alan have talked about,

[0:14:52] Trustee Fast (probable): the budget and the trust policy statement consultation, both of those will be on there.

[0:15:00] Trustee Fast (probable): And also the governance review consultants will be speaking to us at that meeting.

[0:15:07] Trustee Fast (probable): I'm also on financial planning committee so we met earlier this week and so the

[0:15:14] Trustee Fast (probable): budget is coming forward having been through that with the recommendations of

[0:15:19] Trustee Fast (probable): that group and yeah I'll just leave the rest of that for now and move on with

[0:15:27] Trustee Fast (probable): the meeting thank you very much director Arbour can't be with us today so we'll

[0:15:35] Trustee Fast (probable): move on to town hall here we are at 10 16 running a little bit ahead of time i should have given

[0:15:41] Trustee Fast (probable): grant more time obviously um but i'm anticipating after a little while of having uh no town hall

[0:15:50] Trustee Fast (probable): that we might have some uh town hall speakers so i can see eight attendees over there um

[0:16:01] Trustee Fast (probable): and if there's anybody who would like to speak i see some of you are already we've got a delegation

[0:16:05] Trustee Fast (probable): following um the and that's the hornby housing network uh but if anybody would like to speak

[0:16:12] Trustee Fast (probable): in town hall uh please raise your hand your digital hand or um star nine to raise your hand

[0:16:21] Trustee Fast (probable): if you're on a phone i don't see anybody on a phone okay well i'm not seeing any hands raised

[0:16:28] Trustee Fast (probable): and i know we've got uh we've had a lot of letters about the uh hornby housing initiative go ahead

[0:16:35] Trustee Fast (probable): head trustee allen yes

[0:16:36] Trustee Allen: sorry um that phone call i got was they did want to see something

[0:16:40] Trustee Allen: hound hall and they had an emergency in their in transit somewhere so i guess i guess that's that's

[0:16:45] Trustee Allen: that it wasn't i don't think it was in particular to do with a particular application but i just

[0:16:49] Trustee Allen: want to do a heads up about that okay thank you

[0:16:52] Trustee Fast (probable): anybody is welcome to contact we we invite uh

[0:16:55] Trustee Fast (probable): participation there's several ways to do that another way is by correspondence so people can

[0:17:00] Trustee Fast (probable): can send us an email to Hornby Island Local Trust Committee or they can write to us formally and all

[0:17:05] Trustee Fast (probable): this information is on the website so I hope they write down what they were going to say

[0:17:12] Trustee Fast (probable): as it is with no hands up and I would like to move on then to the delegation and so this is

[0:17:22] Trustee Fast (probable): Hornby Housing Network and Will Cottingham behind the scenes if you could promote

[0:17:29] Trustee Fast (probable): uh i think it might be sadie jazenko who's speaking today and there's her hand goes up

[0:17:35] Trustee Fast (probable): and i see that she's with us if you're if you're with us sadie could you um uh speak up i believe

[0:17:44] Trustee Fast (probable): we've got uh um oops how much time yeah five ten minutes and uh so uh sadie please um please go

[0:17:56] Trustee Fast (probable): ahead perfect are you guys able to hear me yes we can super um can i just check one second sadie

[0:18:05] Trustee Fast (probable): i'm just gonna check uh trustee scott are you still with us your video is off and your sound

[0:18:11] Trustee Fast (probable): is off i

[0:18:13] Voice 3: am yeah oh

[0:18:14] Trustee Fast (probable): very good thank you i just wanted to make sure we weren't uh something hadn't

[0:18:17] Trustee Fast (probable): happened okay please go ahead take it away sadie um

[0:18:20] Voice 7: so yeah i'm here as a delegation from the

[0:18:23] Voice 7: the Hornby Housing Network. This network is just an informal coalition of both Hornby community

[0:18:29] Voice 7: members and organizations that's come together to search and to advocate for solutions to our

[0:18:34] Voice 7: local housing crisis. So our current priority is working to secure BC Housing's final approving of

[0:18:40] Voice 7: funding for housing at Beulah Creek. As you noted, my name is Sadie. I'm on the network and I represent

[0:18:46] Voice 7: the Housing Society as a board of director member. And I've lived on Hornby since 2012 and have seen

[0:18:52] Voice 7: firsthand the many challenges our community is facing due to a lack of affordable housing.

[0:18:57] Voice 7: I'm also currently pursuing a master's degree in planning and my thesis research is focused

[0:19:02] Voice 7: on the current housing needs of Hornby and what can be done to address those needs.

[0:19:06] Voice 7: So as a representative of the network, I just want to inform the local trust committee and

[0:19:10] Voice 7: the planners about the Beulah Creek project and to underline the high level of need for

[0:19:14] Voice 7: rental housing in our little community.

[0:19:16] Voice 7: So Beulah Creek got the push to get launched in November of 2018 when the province awarded

[0:19:21] Voice 7: of the project a 2.6 million dollar capital grant and since then bc housing has advanced

[0:19:26] Voice 7: hornby island housing society almost half a million dollars towards the research and planning

[0:19:31] Voice 7: required to bring this project to its construction ready state the beulah creek village is going to

[0:19:37] Voice 7: provide 26 desperately needed affordable rental housing units for families and individuals

[0:19:43] Voice 7: there will be a mix of sizes from studios to one bedrooms two bedrooms and even three bedrooms

[0:19:48] Voice 7: As I noted before, I've been looking really deeply into the housing needs of the island.

[0:19:53] Voice 7: In the 2018 Housing Needs Assessment commissioned by the Trust, over 90% of respondents indicated that affordable rental was a key housing supply gap on Hornby.

[0:20:03] Voice 7: There are indicators that since that time, the situation has worsened.

[0:20:07] Voice 7: Last year on Hornby, the typical property assessment went up 41%.

[0:20:11] Voice 7: Further data released from BC Assessment noted that the typical assessed value of a home on

[0:20:17] Voice 7: the Gulf Islands was now at $791,000. That is roughly 4.57 times the median household's

[0:20:24] Voice 7: affordable purchase price. With homeownership increasingly out of reach, the subsidized rental

[0:20:30] Voice 7: housing is even more important. I've been conducting my own housing needs research as

[0:20:35] Voice 7: part of my thesis, primarily through a survey in which over 25% of the community has participated.

[0:20:40] Voice 7: In that survey, 37% of residents said that they would have to leave or might have to leave the island due to a lack of affordable housing, and a further

[0:20:49] Voice 7: 94% of respondents indicated that they were already aware of people leaving the island due to that same lack of affordable housing.

[0:20:58] Voice 7: Over 87% of respondents said that insecure rental tenure and the lack of year-round rentals was a major problem on Hornby.

[0:21:05] Voice 7: At least 22% of the population is paying more than 30% of their pre-tax income on shelter.

[0:21:12] Voice 7: 95% of respondents are aware of people living in inappropriate or marginal housing.

[0:21:18] Voice 7: There are indications that the number of residents living in core housing need on Hornby could be substantial.

[0:21:24] Voice 7: 93% of residents do not think there is enough affordable housing on Hornby.

[0:21:28] Voice 7: And over 91% of residents think that more needs to be done to secure housing on Hornby for residents.

[0:21:36] Voice 7: There is a huge amount of community support for Beulah Creek. Numerous individuals and organizations have written BC Housing powerful letters advocating strongly for their funding.

[0:21:47] Voice 7: One letter written by a representative of the Hornby-Denman Community Healthcare Society highlighted the significance of this project and what it would mean to the members of our community.

[0:21:56] Voice 7: In this letter, she stated,

[0:21:58] Voice 7: Every day in my work, I see the negative impact of a lack of affordable rental housing on Hornby Island, on the people we serve.

[0:22:05] Voice 7: We work with women and mothers who are forced to remain in extremely stressful and sometimes unsafe housing situations because there is nowhere else to go.

[0:22:14] Voice 7: We work with adults and couples who are cold and wet in their insufficient housing.

[0:22:18] Voice 7: We work with parents and families who move multiple times a year, including periods of couch surfing, in order to remain in their community.

[0:22:26] Voice 7: She goes on to highlight that about 43% of children on Hornby are living in poverty, and that the provision of safe, stable, and affordable rental housing in the community could fill this gap, improve mental health and substance use outcomes, and decrease the adverse effects of the lack of housing on children.

[0:22:44] Voice 7: The number and variety of letters from individuals and organizations on Hornby are an indication of the ongoing community support for this essential project moving forward.

[0:22:53] Voice 7: word. Ultimately, this project needs all the help it can get to push it over the finish line.

[0:22:59] Voice 7: There is a huge demand for funding for many, many projects province-wide, and Beulah Creek is in

[0:23:03] Voice 7: competition with all of those projects. Construction costs, as you know, have skyrocketed over the last

[0:23:08] Voice 7: few years. Our rural and remote location, compounded by the physical realities of the site, have had a

[0:23:14] Voice 7: large impact on costs, making competition that much more difficult. Negotiation is ongoing with

[0:23:20] Voice 7: BC Housing for approval and the go-ahead. We are working on both sides of the equation to trim costs

[0:23:25] Voice 7: and to secure as broad a base as possible of equity partners. The February 8th letter from

[0:23:30] Voice 7: the Local Trust Committee to BC Housing outlined how you've been able to support Beulah Creek as

[0:23:35] Voice 7: it's progressed. The network is extremely grateful for that demonstration of support.

[0:23:39] Voice 7: It's a really powerful signal to BC Housing of the high level of community support.

[0:23:44] Voice 7: In terms of next steps, we're really looking forward to bringing the development permits to

[0:23:48] Voice 7: the local trust committee for consideration in the near future. We're acutely aware that it is

[0:23:53] Voice 7: critical that all of the information needed for permit review be submitted as part of the package

[0:23:58] Voice 7: in order to see the processing of these permits expedited. Beulah Creek will be satisfying a large

[0:24:04] Voice 7: piece of the island's current housing needs and the community is fully behind its completion.

[0:24:08] Voice 7: Its failure to go forward would be devastating. We thank you for any and all of the assistance

[0:24:14] Voice 7: that you're able to provide to make this project work. Thank you so much for your time and your

[0:24:18] Voice 7: consideration thank

[0:24:21] Trustee Fast (probable): you very much sadie and uh i'm um yes and and the housing uh network um

[0:24:29] Trustee Fast (probable): anybody got questions for go ahead trustee allen i

[0:24:34] Trustee Allen: just want to there's also it sounds like

[0:24:35] Trustee Allen: somebody's got a staple gun or something in the background so if that's i

[0:24:38] Trustee Fast (probable): think it's a fire oh

[0:24:41] Trustee Allen: wow

[0:24:41] Trustee Fast (probable): crackling of a fire yeah

[0:24:42] Trustee Allen: wow why isn't that in the background that's funny okay um no i just

[0:24:48] Trustee Allen: wanted to say uh that was a really excellent presentation uh sadie and um you know especially

[0:24:54] Trustee Allen: when i read the healthcare society letter that really impacted me because you know those numbers

[0:25:00] Trustee Allen: that they're you know they're they're real they just say what's going on in hornby and um this

[0:25:04] Trustee Allen: project has been going on for so long but i will i don't know whether i'm able to bring this up but

[0:25:10] Trustee Allen: there you know obviously there's been concerns raised in many emails we've received from

[0:25:14] Trustee Allen: the original owner of this property and i'm just wondering whether this is the right venue to ask

[0:25:20] Trustee Allen: how you are move dare i say it moving forward with this in light of what's going on in the

[0:25:29] Trustee Allen: background yeah

[0:25:31] Voice 7: i mean i think in every community with affordable housing developments you always

[0:25:34] Voice 7: see a little bit of pushback um in this community i can count on one hand and two fingers how many

[0:25:42] Voice 7: people i've heard that are opposed to it so i think that's a pretty good indication thank you

[0:25:49] Voice 3: trustee scott yes

[0:25:51] Trustee Scott (probable): sadie i'd just like to thank you for a very excellent presentation and thank

[0:25:55] Trustee Scott (probable): the board i know you're a member thank everybody for their artwork on this and as you stated yeah

[0:26:01] Trustee Scott (probable): we look forward to seeing a development permit come in and we certainly look forward to uh

[0:26:06] Trustee Scott (probable): bc housing supporting the project and getting it done for all the excellent points you made

[0:26:11] Trustee Scott (probable): there so i just want to thank you for it and please thank the board for their work

[0:26:15] Trustee Fast (probable): i will thanks grant well thank you very much um unless there's more questions then we'll move on

[0:26:22] Trustee Fast (probable): thank you very much uh sadie and the other hard-working members of your

[0:26:26] Trustee Fast (probable): network and the various boards i think that's terrific um and i just wanted to um flag that

[0:26:33] Trustee Fast (probable): we got copied on a lot of these uh letters of support and uh they're on pages 5 to 30

[0:26:39] Trustee Fast (probable): of the agenda. And I believe there were more that came in as well. And we wrote one. I'll speak to

[0:26:48] Trustee Fast (probable): that when we get to it on the agenda. Okay. And so now we're on to minutes. The exciting part of

[0:26:57] Trustee Fast (probable): the, oops, I've got to move my, this part of the agenda is where we make sure that the minutes are

[0:27:04] Trustee Fast (probable): are all correct and we approve them.

[0:27:07] Trustee Fast (probable): So I'm going to page 31 now

[0:27:11] Trustee Fast (probable): for our minutes from December the 10th.

[0:27:13] Trustee Fast (probable): Any changes?

[0:27:14] Trustee Fast (probable): Go ahead, Trustee Allen.

[0:27:16] Trustee Allen: Yeah, my name's not spelled right.

[0:27:17] Trustee Allen: So just do a find and replace A-L-L-A-N with A-L-L-E-N.

[0:27:22] Trustee Allen: At least it was consistent throughout the whole report.

[0:27:27] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay, thank you very much.

[0:27:29] Trustee Fast (probable): That's one of those typo things.

[0:27:31] Trustee Fast (probable): Anybody else got any other issue

[0:27:34] Trustee Fast (probable): you with the minutes of December the 10th. Okay. So then I see Heather Cowher is our host now.

[0:27:43] Trustee Fast (probable): Heather is running the Northern Region and this webinar and being our Island Planner. Okay. So

[0:27:51] Trustee Fast (probable): now let's then adopt the, can somebody move that we adopt the December 10th minutes? Do it properly.

[0:28:02] Trustee Fast (probable): Thank you Trustee Allen. Do I have a seconder? Thank you Trustee Scott. Any discussion? All in favor? Thank you. That's three hands go up. I'm going to say that just in case Catherine, our minute taker, can't see us.

[0:28:19] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay, and then the next set of minutes is January 24. This was our special electronic meeting,

[0:28:28] Trustee Fast (probable): partly in order to pass a meeting procedure by law so that we can hold more electronic meetings

[0:28:35] Trustee Fast (probable): when there isn't a provincial emergency. Anybody got any changes they want to see to the January 24

[0:28:42] Trustee Fast (probable): fourth minutes then uh can i have a motion to adopt these two minutes thank you trustee allen

[0:28:51] Trustee Fast (probable): and scott uh seconds it and then all in favor thank you that passes unanimously

[0:28:57] Voice 3: um

[0:28:59] Trustee Fast (probable): and then

[0:29:00] Trustee Fast (probable): if you turn to page 43 we have uh what's called resolution without meeting which means a motion

[0:29:07] Trustee Fast (probable): that we passed by email it has to be something that uh is um uh not important enough to be

[0:29:16] Trustee Fast (probable): uh come before the public um because there are rules to be followed about this but uh islands

[0:29:22] Trustee Fast (probable): trust can do resolutions without meeting that's what's there on page uh 43 um the three of them

[0:29:29] Trustee Fast (probable): that we carried and uh 6.4 is advisory planning commission minutes a busy group and um so that's

[0:29:40] Trustee Fast (probable): their minutes from uh november 26th um thank you very much for your work as well i see some

[0:29:47] Trustee Fast (probable): members in the among the attendees okay and then uh so now on to the follow-up action list page 58

[0:29:55] Trustee Fast (probable): to 63. I'm wondering if trustees

[0:30:00] Trustee Fast (probable): have questions for the planner uh pages 58 to 63 these are the activities we've uh endorsed or

[0:30:08] Trustee Fast (probable): um requested and um they're underway by various members of uninstructed staff

[0:30:16] Trustee Fast (probable): any questions for the planner nope

[0:30:23] Voice 3: trustee scott go ahead grant yeah

[0:30:29] Trustee Scott (probable): i had um yes i've um

[0:30:32] Trustee Scott (probable): And I requested a PowerPoint that outlines just how the trust operates.

[0:30:44] Trustee Scott (probable): And the idea was that the people on the island really don't understand.

[0:30:49] Trustee Scott (probable): A lot of people don't understand the trust very well.

[0:30:52] Trustee Scott (probable): I mean, there's probably 20 or 20, maybe 30 people who do, but the vast majority don't.

[0:30:57] Trustee Scott (probable): And it all comes to this increase in taxes and all these other issues I was trying to talk about that are important to the island.

[0:31:04] Trustee Scott (probable): that I feel we need to, as trustees, or I'm certainly willing to stand up and explain how

[0:31:10] Trustee Scott (probable): it works so that we can get some understanding of where there's policy and where the taxes fit

[0:31:16] Trustee Scott (probable): and what they're used for and where there's some of the things that we're doing. And I made the

[0:31:21] Trustee Scott (probable): request to the staff in Victoria right after I was elected, which was two and a half years ago

[0:31:26] Trustee Scott (probable): or three years. And I was told that it, anyway, it's gone on and on. And here we are now. And I

[0:31:33] Trustee Scott (probable): I was recently brought it up again because I think it's really vitally

[0:31:37] Trustee Scott (probable): important and communications is something that's vital to every organization

[0:31:41] Trustee Scott (probable): as we all know. So anyway,

[0:31:43] Trustee Scott (probable): I don't want to make a speech again or I'll get cut off again, but what I,

[0:31:47] Trustee Scott (probable): what I'm saying, what I'm saying is, is, is that I'd like to somehow get,

[0:31:51] Trustee Scott (probable): I don't know if it needs to be recognized on an action list, Heather,

[0:31:55] Trustee Scott (probable): or how we do that to get that,

[0:31:57] Trustee Scott (probable): because I think it's even more important given what's going on right now,

[0:32:00] Trustee Scott (probable): all the certainly there's a lot of controversy around. So.

[0:32:03] Trustee Scott (probable): Anyway, we'll just leave it at that.

[0:32:06] Trustee Scott (probable): I actually thought, excuse me,

[0:32:08] Trustee Scott (probable): I just thought I was going to have it at word

[0:32:10] Trustee Scott (probable): that we were going to have it before this meeting

[0:32:12] Trustee Scott (probable): and that's not how, so it's a bit disconcerting.

[0:32:16] Trustee Scott (probable): Thank you.

[0:32:17] Trustee Fast (probable): I'll just follow up briefly by saying

[0:32:19] Trustee Fast (probable): I've been following up with executive committee

[0:32:21] Trustee Fast (probable): and that kind of thing.

[0:32:22] Trustee Fast (probable): I've seen a draft communications plan

[0:32:26] Trustee Fast (probable): and, you know, I won't have to,

[0:32:29] Trustee Fast (probable): you will have seen that through the trust policy statement,

[0:32:32] Trustee Fast (probable): public engagement and that we've been a bit overwhelmed

[0:32:37] Trustee Fast (probable): staff wise.

[0:32:40] Trustee Fast (probable): However, if you did want to make a, and I hear you,

[0:32:43] Trustee Fast (probable): cause I've been following up on it too,

[0:32:45] Trustee Fast (probable): and I agree that it would be important

[0:32:47] Trustee Fast (probable): if you wanted to make some,

[0:32:49] Trustee Fast (probable): if you wanted to say something like Hornby Island

[0:32:51] Trustee Fast (probable): Local Trust Committee requests staff to,

[0:32:56] Trustee Fast (probable): do you want to make a motion

[0:32:58] Trustee Fast (probable): or are you going to leave it there for now?

[0:33:02] Trustee Scott (probable): well heather do you i don't know do you think we i guess it's more for you so alan do you think we

[0:33:08] Trustee Scott (probable): need to do that is it going to get it any faster to do that

[0:33:11] Trustee Fast (probable): honestly i don't think it can get any

[0:33:15] Trustee Fast (probable): faster and communications is something we can speak to in a couple of weeks in the

[0:33:19] Trustee Fast (probable): when we're talking about budget that might

[0:33:22] Trustee Scott (probable): be the place to do it

[0:33:23] Trustee Scott (probable): heather can i ask then that

[0:33:25] Trustee Scott (probable): we won't bother doing that but could you make sure it gets on the next agenda

[0:33:30] Trustee Scott (probable): because presumably, Sue Ellen, can you?

[0:33:33] Voice 11: I can put it on.

[0:33:34] Trustee Scott (probable): Maybe it's worth it, Sue Ellen,

[0:33:36] Trustee Scott (probable): for us to make this motion, put it on here,

[0:33:38] Trustee Scott (probable): because then if you could take that back to the executive.

[0:33:42] Voice 5: Okay.

[0:33:42] Trustee Scott (probable): Because I'm sorry, I don't buy two and a half years

[0:33:45] Trustee Scott (probable): to get a PowerPoint that I know would take a week

[0:33:47] Trustee Scott (probable): if we did it on or beyond it.

[0:33:48] Trustee Scott (probable): I don't want to get carried away with this,

[0:33:50] Trustee Scott (probable): but it's just, it's-

[0:33:53] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay, PowerPoint, next agenda.

[0:33:55] Trustee Scott (probable): Yeah, and I'm going to make a motion then

[0:33:57] Trustee Scott (probable): to put it on the follow-up action list,

[0:33:59] Trustee Scott (probable): so i'll make that motion okay

[0:34:02] Trustee Fast (probable): so um hornby island local trust committee requests staff to uh draft

[0:34:09] Trustee Fast (probable): or create a powerpoint to

[0:34:11] Trustee Scott (probable): create a powerpoint uh that describes that the trust its authority and

[0:34:22] Trustee Scott (probable): in in terms that can be presented on hornby island to assist people in better understanding

[0:34:28] Trustee Scott (probable): understanding the trust i don't know it's not saying said very well but

[0:34:31] Trustee Fast (probable): that's that sounds good

[0:34:32] Trustee Fast (probable): to me

[0:34:33] Trustee Scott (probable): okay yeah did you catch that

[0:34:35] Trustee Fast (probable): katherine yes i did thank you very much okay trustee allen

[0:34:45] Voice 3: seconding i can't hear you i

[0:34:51] Trustee Allen: was just seconding but then i want to comment on something afterwards

[0:34:54] Trustee Allen: okay

[0:34:54] Trustee Fast (probable): thank you so the motion is moved and seconded uh discussion go ahead trustee allen i mean i

[0:35:01] Trustee Allen: guess that was my my first concern is uh staff capacity and uh maybe because after the trust

[0:35:07] Trustee Allen: council there will be time our next meeting is may or april our lcc meeting i'm sorry april 29th

[0:35:14] Trustee Allen: april so that's not very far away actually in the scheme of things so yeah that's all i was just

[0:35:20] Trustee Allen: concerned about the staff capacity okay

[0:35:24] Trustee Fast (probable): and um can i ask a question uh just if this was something

[0:35:30] Trustee Fast (probable): that came to me as a staff person i would want to know how many slides approximately are you thinking

[0:35:38] Trustee Scott (probable): uh 30.

[0:35:39] Trustee Fast (probable): okay thanks just just for

[0:35:42] Trustee Fast (probable): a ballpark i wouldn't want you

[0:35:43] Trustee Fast (probable): to be disappointed by something

[0:35:45] Trustee Fast (probable): that came with 10 uh or

[0:35:48] Trustee Scott (probable): it's 90 it's the thing about it is it's 90 already there in various

[0:35:54] Trustee Scott (probable): places here and there and there's some excellent work done i know that last thing we saw

[0:35:58] Trustee Scott (probable): i mean that that work was done at trust council that there's a lot of really good information

[0:36:03] Trustee Scott (probable): there it just needs to be packaged in a way we can use here that's which

[0:36:06] Trustee Fast (probable): presentation are you

[0:36:08] Trustee Fast (probable): thinking of alex

[0:36:10] Trustee Scott (probable): what am i remembering that we saw a young there

[0:36:14] Trustee Scott (probable): was a young woman i remember

[0:36:18] Trustee Scott (probable): made a presentation at the trust council on i can't remember what the topic was but it had a

[0:36:25] Trustee Scott (probable): lot of really good information around the trust how it works and it she was doing this communications

[0:36:32] Trustee Scott (probable): she had a contract i don't think she's on permanent staff and i just remember everybody

[0:36:37] Trustee Allen: i just remember

[0:36:37] Trustee Scott (probable): every i just remember everybody be very impressed with it okay

[0:36:42] Trustee Allen: something at lunch

[0:36:43] Trustee Allen: time i'll because i got notes on that if you want okay okay

[0:36:46] Trustee Fast (probable): thanks or we can follow up afterwards

[0:36:48] Trustee Allen: this is

[0:36:49] Trustee Fast (probable): kind of fine-tuning okay uh thank you so we've got a motion uh in front of us uh any more

[0:36:55] Trustee Fast (probable): discussion well

[0:36:57] Trustee Scott (probable): only one thing i don't heather i don't anticipate this causing the local planners

[0:37:03] Trustee Scott (probable): any work this is this is in the victoria office just to be clear and

[0:37:11] Trustee Fast (probable): then the long on the uh

[0:37:12] Trustee Fast (probable): follow-up action list you can see some of the staff are in the um right

[0:37:17] Trustee Scott (probable): yeah yeah they are

[0:37:19] Trustee Scott (probable): so

[0:37:19] Trustee Fast (probable): that's fine to do yeah okay good so hearing no more discussion then i'll call the question

[0:37:24] Trustee Fast (probable): all those in favor thank you that carries unanimously very good

[0:37:30] Trustee Fast (probable): okay motion whoops

[0:37:35] Trustee Fast (probable): better make sure i leave on myself a little bit of a

[0:37:37] Trustee Fast (probable): note okay we're moving on now to uh 7.2

[0:37:42] Trustee Fast (probable): this is the uh model fees bylaw fees bylaw update um and uh starts on page 64 of the agenda

[0:37:52] Trustee Fast (probable): agenda and we've had a bunch of work done on this by the Advisory Planning Commission too

[0:37:58] Trustee Fast (probable): and so I'm going to ask Heather, Regional Planning Manager Carr to take it away please.

[0:38:05] Voice 10: Great so as you'll remember there was a schedule attached to a trust council

[0:38:14] Voice 10: policy which is essentially a recommendation for new fees and we brought that to the local

[0:38:21] Voice 10: trust committee and the local trust committee referred it to the apc the apc has since provided

[0:38:27] Voice 10: their comments on that essentially to adopt the model um but but then perhaps at a future date um

[0:38:36] Voice 10: give some more thought to the temporary use permit fee um so what's before you is um

[0:38:43] Voice 10: our recommended bylaw and uh we are recommending three readings of that and moving along to

[0:38:50] Voice 10: to executive committee and not answer any questions.

[0:38:55] Trustee Fast (probable): Thank you.

[0:38:56] Trustee Fast (probable): Thank you, Heather.

[0:38:57] Trustee Fast (probable): And thank you for the brief report.

[0:39:01] Trustee Fast (probable): And I can see that this has been

[0:39:04] Trustee Fast (probable): through the advisory planning commission

[0:39:06] Trustee Fast (probable): and that's their recommendations.

[0:39:07] Trustee Fast (probable): Thank you.

[0:39:08] Trustee Fast (probable): And go ahead, trustee Allen.

[0:39:11] Trustee Allen: Yeah, I was just wondering how many other islands

[0:39:14] Trustee Allen: have adopted the fees bylaws point?

[0:39:16] Trustee Allen: Are we the only one?

[0:39:17] Trustee Allen: I

[0:39:20] Voice 10: want to say Bolinas-Winchelsey has adopted, for sure. All of the other,

[0:39:28] Voice 10: off the top of my head, I can't remember if any in the north have actually adopted it yet. The

[0:39:34] Voice 10: process was sort of put on hold while we were doing the meeting procedures bylaws. So they're

[0:39:40] Voice 10: now being brought back to the LTCs. We'll be looking, the next one we'll be looking at is

[0:39:46] Voice 10: is gabriela and they have one amendment that they're contemplating but other than that there

[0:39:54] Voice 10: doesn't appear to be any amendments they're contemplating at least right now can i follow

[0:39:59] Trustee Allen: up with something yeah trustee and then also um i guess you wouldn't know if there's been any

[0:40:06] Trustee Allen: pushback i this is quite a extensive and um i mean i've i could have another two weeks to look at it

[0:40:13] Trustee Allen: this whole package in terms this this report alone and um yeah i just my feelings is how

[0:40:22] Trustee Allen: one can just do this without any public consultation i'm just i just have concerns

[0:40:26] Trustee Allen: about just saying yes to this without hearing what the community feels and i'm just wondering

[0:40:31] Trustee Allen: is that a right process to take or how was i guess belinus with chelsea i mean there's a lot

[0:40:39] Trustee Allen: of community members there i had something to say but uh you know what i'm saying what i'm trying to

[0:40:44] Trustee Allen: to articulate here so can you comment please yeah

[0:40:47] Voice 10: you know on uh for the denman ltc for instance

[0:40:50] Voice 10: they had the same concern um we actually ended up uh the ltc asked us to advertise

[0:40:56] Voice 10: um that this was being considered and we did advertise it for six weeks um but we didn't get

[0:41:04] Voice 10: any public comment um as a result of that advertisement um so that was one option that's

[0:41:12] Voice 10: the only option that an ltc in the north has put forward in terms of public comment um

[0:41:20] Voice 10: and there might be other options if you wanted to open it up for for public comment or just

[0:41:24] Voice 10: to let people yeah i mean just to let people know that again we didn't we didn't receive anything

[0:41:29] Voice 10: on them yeah

[0:41:31] Trustee Allen: i just want to ask go ahead sorry as you know i have real concerns about notification

[0:41:35] Trustee Allen: public notification public comment quite often people didn't receive the letter their lives are

[0:41:40] Trustee Allen: busy and um i actually phone people up it you know when there's been a public notification

[0:41:46] Trustee Allen: find out they have it and you'll find out later on the meeting regarding an application um

[0:41:51] Trustee Allen: yeah so i just want if if we an option for us would be to just receive this to first maybe

[0:41:56] Trustee Allen: the meeting and then maybe just put something out to the community that this is what we're

[0:42:01] Trustee Allen: thinking of deciding like meaning i just want to know what options we have there because it wasn't

[0:42:07] Trustee Allen: on that list of options?

[0:42:11] Trustee Allen: I

[0:42:12] Voice 10: guess it would be any number of methods

[0:42:14] Voice 10: that you could use for that.

[0:42:19] Voice 10: Depending on the method,

[0:42:20] Voice 10: there may be more that takes staff time and effort.

[0:42:24] Voice 10: And there may be more that,

[0:42:25] Voice 10: and there's gotta be money involved too.

[0:42:27] Voice 10: So if you're advertising in the paper,

[0:42:29] Voice 10: there has to be that considered, that kind of thing.

[0:42:32] Voice 10: There's also just the option of the trustees

[0:42:34] Voice 10: is sending out notice to your notification lists if that's how you'd want to do it which wouldn't

[0:42:41] Voice 10: take any staffer money

[0:42:43] Trustee Allen: okay i'll pass it on to grant i might have something afterwards if that's

[0:42:48] Trustee Allen: okay okay so trustee

[0:42:50] Trustee Fast (probable): start so

[0:42:51] Trustee Scott (probable): the apc has had this and reviewed it so presumably there was

[0:42:57] Trustee Scott (probable): opportunity there for the public to be involved now whether again it's i think as alex says

[0:43:03] Trustee Scott (probable): whether people pick up on that whether they're aware of who in those meetings are what the

[0:43:06] Trustee Scott (probable): agenda is and what so i kind of i like the idea of putting it out there um and i think one of the

[0:43:14] Trustee Scott (probable): best ways on wormby there's just that little newspaper that comes out once in a while an

[0:43:18] Trustee Scott (probable): insert in there that describes this but one of the key factors in here that i wonder about was when

[0:43:24] Trustee Scott (probable): was bylaw 132 brought in how long ago like any idea because these a lot of these are going

[0:43:34] Trustee Scott (probable): going up well over how long a time period is that you know what I'm getting at Heather I

[0:43:40] Trustee Fast (probable): see that uh

[0:43:41] Trustee Fast (probable): the chair of the APC who've been looking at the fees and reporting uh Wendy Burton's got her hand

[0:43:46] Trustee Fast (probable): up would you like to hear from

[0:43:47] Trustee Scott (probable): one yes please yes Wendy please go

[0:43:52] Trustee Fast (probable): ahead Wendy if uh if you can that's

[0:43:55] Trustee Fast (probable): up for you Heather to yeah so please go ahead Wendy yes

[0:44:00] Voice 13: I I was just about to uh inform everyone that

[0:44:04] Voice 13: that we considered this fee structure in two meetings

[0:44:10] Voice 13: which were given notice to the community

[0:44:13] Voice 13: and we had no response from the community,

[0:44:15] Voice 13: no public turned up to discuss it.

[0:44:18] Voice 13: One of the prevailing points for us

[0:44:22] Voice 13: was that the increase in fees,

[0:44:26] Voice 13: some of the increases in fees which seemed quite high

[0:44:31] Voice 13: were reflecting the actual cost

[0:44:34] Voice 13: of processing those applications and permits.

[0:44:38] Voice 13: And so we felt that that reason alone was sufficient.

[0:44:43] Voice 13: I believe that the fee structure

[0:44:46] Voice 13: has not been addressed at all

[0:44:49] Voice 13: by the local APC for many, many years,

[0:44:51] Voice 13: but I do not know the answer

[0:44:53] Voice 13: specifically to Grant's question.

[0:44:57] Trustee Fast (probable): Thank you, Wendy.

[0:44:59] Trustee Fast (probable): And I'm going to just chime in briefly.

[0:45:03] Trustee Fast (probable): Just, trustees might remember, but this has been in the works through Trust Council,

[0:45:12] Trustee Fast (probable): referred this whole topic because of the need to make sure that the Islands Trust was,

[0:45:21] Trustee Fast (probable): that growth paid for growth, and that the taxpayer was not subsidizing private developments

[0:45:33] Trustee Fast (probable): developments by having fees that were too low to reflect the work that planning staff were putting

[0:45:39] Trustee Fast (probable): into it and so those are just a couple of things back there but of points of background and that

[0:45:46] Trustee Fast (probable): this has been also through I think it's trust program was it planning committee one of the

[0:45:52] Trustee Fast (probable): big committees of trust council for many many months until they felt prepared to bring the

[0:46:00] Trustee Fast (probable): the motion to trust council and, uh, trust council adopted this as a, uh, a guideline for, um, the

[0:46:08] Trustee Fast (probable): whole trust area. And, uh, so this is to, um, I don't know, what, what would you like to do? I've

[0:46:17] Trustee Fast (probable): got the wording of, um, um, approximate wording of what Denman did. And they said, uh, defer until

[0:46:24] Trustee Fast (probable): further consultation has been completed, uh, as this fees, as it relates to Denman, something

[0:46:31] Trustee Fast (probable): Something like that. Go ahead, Trustee Allen.

[0:46:37] Trustee Allen: Sorry, I'm in my phase one of pollen allergies, so I'm not completely all here.

[0:46:43] Trustee Allen: So I just wanted I just remembered I wanted to ask a bit more about what Wendy Burton was referring to the TUP and is wondering whether Heather Carr could explain that paragraph at the end.

[0:46:54] Trustee Allen: I had to read that a few times. I just want to know, is that to do with, can that be dealt with

[0:46:59] Trustee Allen: a case by case instead of having a set fee? It can change with how trustees see fit. I just

[0:47:07] Trustee Allen: want to know what you're exactly referring to here.

[0:47:12] Voice 10: I invited the chair back from the APC to

[0:47:16] Voice 10: see if she could enlighten us on that.

[0:47:19] Voice 13: Go ahead, Wendy. The reason that we made that comment was

[0:47:23] Voice 13: was we felt that the temporary use permit fee

[0:47:27] Voice 13: reflected the amount of work that was done

[0:47:29] Voice 13: to process each temporary use permit.

[0:47:32] Voice 13: But there was some discussion in our current referral,

[0:47:36] Voice 13: which we put on hold for a few hours

[0:47:40] Voice 13: in order to look at this fee structure.

[0:47:42] Voice 13: There's been some comment from the public

[0:47:44] Voice 13: and from the members of the commission

[0:47:47] Voice 13: that the temporary use permit may be batched or bundled

[0:47:51] Voice 13: to facilitate secondary suites or short-term rental accommodation

[0:47:59] Voice 13: if that's the direction the APC goes.

[0:48:02] Voice 13: So we wanted to alert the trustees, the local trustees,

[0:48:07] Voice 13: that while we feel the fee at the moment is appropriate,

[0:48:12] Voice 13: as Sue Ellen says, that growth should fund growth,

[0:48:17] Voice 13: we felt that was appropriate,

[0:48:18] Voice 13: but we also were aware that there may be some recommendations

[0:48:23] Voice 13: coming from us addressing the fee structure

[0:48:27] Voice 13: for temporary use permits.

[0:48:31] Trustee Scott (probable): Thank you.

[0:48:34] Trustee Scott (probable): I'm trying to play the game right here

[0:48:37] Trustee Scott (probable): by having my hand up, so I don't know.

[0:48:39] Trustee Fast (probable): Yeah, I'm

[0:48:40] Voice 3: going to go to

[0:48:40] Voice 3: Trustee Scott, go ahead.

[0:48:46] Voice 3: Oh, I lost your voice.

[0:48:54] Trustee Scott (probable): Okay, given what Wendy's just said, I think one thing we should not anticipate increasing any costs for somebody requesting a temporary use permit until after the APC does its report.

[0:49:17] Trustee Scott (probable): So, Wendy, does that speak to your issue?

[0:49:19] Trustee Scott (probable): uh

[0:49:22] Voice 13: yes it certainly does if we could um i i suppose we would recommend passing uh or at

[0:49:30] Voice 13: least our recommendation was the fee structure looked good to us uh if you could i don't know

[0:49:36] Voice 13: pass all of that and then leave the temporary use permit as is i don't know i'm not the

[0:49:42] Voice 13: parliamentarian here but that would

[0:49:44] Voice 13: yeah that would suit us that's

[0:49:47] Trustee Scott (probable): what i'm thinking exactly

[0:49:48] Trustee Scott (probable): Exactly. Heather?

[0:49:49] Trustee Scott (probable): Oh, I'm sorry. I'm acting like chair. Sorry, Sloan.

[0:49:52] Trustee Fast (probable): That's okay. We all do this. Go ahead, please, Planning Manager Cowher.

[0:49:56] Trustee Fast (probable): So

[0:49:57] Voice 10: I'll say this, is that Trust Council's part of their policy is that the fees that are being recommended, that they don't want any changes that are beyond 20%.

[0:50:13] Voice 10: so um so this this bylaw has to get go back to the ec um there's a chance they wouldn't approve

[0:50:20] Voice 10: it if it didn't include um a fee that was for the temporary use permit that got changed that makes

[0:50:29] Voice 10: sense just bring that up

[0:50:32] Trustee Fast (probable): okay let's think about

[0:50:34] Voice 10: that hang

[0:50:35] Trustee Fast (probable): on no and now you took uh it's i'm

[0:50:39] Trustee Fast (probable): going to try and move it around here please trustee allen go ahead okay

[0:50:44] Trustee Allen: so this is my follow-up um i

[0:50:46] Trustee Allen: just wanted to what wendy were you referring to bundling the temporary use permits if there is a

[0:50:53] Trustee Allen: community benefit that's right only okay and then also and then heather if we do put

[0:51:02] Trustee Allen: you know an actual fee in the tup when we it's good sense to um executive for approval

[0:51:08] Trustee Allen: we could change it on a case-by-case,

[0:51:11] Trustee Allen: could be known as a local trust committee.

[0:51:13] Trustee Allen: If it's temporary, we can't.

[0:51:15] Voice 10: No,

[0:51:15] Trustee Allen: you could

[0:51:16] Voice 10: change it later.

[0:51:18] Voice 10: And I guess what I'm hearing,

[0:51:21] Voice 10: and Chair Burton can let me know if this is not it,

[0:51:24] Voice 10: is that you can adopt what staff is recommending now.

[0:51:29] Voice 10: And then once the APC makes recommendations around TUPs,

[0:51:35] Voice 10: those recommendations presumably

[0:51:37] Voice 10: presumably are going to be part of your OCP LUB project, which means that those don't actually

[0:51:45] Voice 10: get adopted for another year or two, right? Those amendments. So we would recommend that you would

[0:51:53] Voice 10: adopt what's in front of you. And then if you want to change the TUP fee, you can certainly

[0:51:59] Voice 10: do that later after you've given consideration to changing the bylaws.

[0:52:05] Trustee Allen: Okay. Thank you.

[0:52:06] Trustee Fast (probable): thank you trustee allen uh sorry trustee scott

[0:52:12] Trustee Scott (probable): heather what i was thinking before you just said that is i think it got me a bit confused but um

[0:52:21] Trustee Scott (probable): i was thinking tabling this thing until after the ap table the whole thing until after the

[0:52:27] Trustee Scott (probable): apc had done its report and then we would know uh what the temporary use permit around um

[0:52:34] Trustee Scott (probable): short-term rentals would be. That would be one alternative, it seems to me, or the other one

[0:52:41] Trustee Scott (probable): is what you just described, I think. Could you comment on that?

[0:52:46] Voice 10: Yeah, I think that theoretically you could do that. You could wait on updating the speed bylaw

[0:52:51] Voice 10: until the APC had finished their deliberations and you had recommendations in front of you

[0:52:57] Voice 10: about TUPs. And you wouldn't necessarily have to wait until the end of the OCP LUV project

[0:53:03] Voice 10: to also make those changes I think you could

[0:53:07] Voice 10: do that okay

[0:53:09] Trustee Fast (probable): and I'm just going to jump in here to

[0:53:11] Trustee Fast (probable): say here we are dealing with it today and it I don't know if we want to put expectations on the

[0:53:21] Trustee Fast (probable): Advisory Planning Commission who have recommended that we adopt this today and that we revisit the

[0:53:28] Trustee Fast (probable): the Temporary Use Permit, TUP, later.

[0:53:34] Trustee Fast (probable): It seems to me that's another, it could be a couple of years.

[0:53:37] Trustee Fast (probable): And depending on what happens with the,

[0:53:43] Trustee Fast (probable): it could be a few years because we may change some trustees

[0:53:49] Trustee Fast (probable): or whatever, some other things may change.

[0:53:52] Trustee Fast (probable): And my feeling is to advance the work as advised by the APC.

[0:53:59] Trustee Fast (probable): Trustee Scott?

[0:54:01] Trustee Scott (probable): Well, yeah, I'm going to do the opposite.

[0:54:04] Trustee Scott (probable): I'm going to move, if I can make a motion on it, that we table this,

[0:54:08] Trustee Scott (probable): because I don't see that being too far into the future,

[0:54:10] Trustee Scott (probable): that we table this until we receive the APC's report.

[0:54:16] Trustee Scott (probable): We table the whole thing, and then we table it.

[0:54:21] Trustee Scott (probable): Now, Wendy, how long do you think that might be?

[0:54:26] Voice 13: We are anticipating that we will have a series of recommendations

[0:54:31] Voice 13: to the local trustees for the meeting that you were,

[0:54:35] Voice 13: for your next meeting, which I believe is in May.

[0:54:39] Trustee Scott (probable): Okay, so then, yes, I'm going to table that motion then.

[0:54:44] Trustee Fast (probable): Move.

[0:54:47] Trustee Fast (probable): Table it, you need to say.

[0:54:50] Trustee Fast (probable): I move.

[0:54:52] Trustee Fast (probable): Defer a decision until?

[0:54:57] Trustee Scott (probable): After we receive the APC's report,

[0:55:00] Trustee Scott (probable): or we table it however you want to word that,

[0:55:02] Trustee Scott (probable): we um

[0:55:04] Trustee Fast (probable): at the next meeting until

[0:55:08] Trustee Scott (probable): after the apc's you could say the next meeting but

[0:55:11] Trustee Scott (probable): that assumes i think just say after the apc's report okay i think

[0:55:17] Trustee Fast (probable): i think when you're um

[0:55:21] Trustee Fast (probable): uh doing these things you're supposed to say when like report back at the next meeting or the march

[0:55:28] Trustee Fast (probable): meeting or the um that

[0:55:32] Trustee Allen: he just said she'd be she'd have the

[0:55:33] Trustee Allen: report by our next meeting grant

[0:55:35] Trustee Fast (probable): yeah yeah

[0:55:38] Trustee Scott (probable): okay thank

[0:55:40] Trustee Fast (probable): you for the next meeting

[0:55:41] Trustee Scott (probable): is that hamstring just one last question for

[0:55:44] Trustee Scott (probable): winnie though is that hamstringing you and you didn't have the r8 to say that

[0:55:48] Voice 13: no it is not uh it's not hampering me um we we it's we are in progress and we expect to be

[0:55:57] Voice 13: completed by the actually by the end of march okay okay um i'm just

[0:56:03] Trustee Fast (probable): gonna check uh alex whether

[0:56:05] Trustee Fast (probable): Catherine got that motion or whether we

[0:56:08] Trustee Fast (probable): want Heather will that motion be

[0:56:11] Trustee Fast (probable): Catherine can you read it out that

[0:56:17] Voice 11: the Hornby Island local trust committee

[0:56:18] Voice 11: deferred decision on the model fees bylaw until after the Advisory Planning

[0:56:24] Voice 11: Commission's report is received no

[0:56:28] Trustee Scott (probable): I think we I think we're gonna say we're

[0:56:31] Trustee Scott (probable): We're just kind of, until the next meeting is on April 8th,

[0:56:37] Trustee Scott (probable): the next local.

[0:56:40] Trustee Fast (probable): April 29th?

[0:56:42] Trustee Scott (probable): I think it's April 8th.

[0:56:44] Trustee Fast (probable): So that's-

[0:56:45] Trustee Scott (probable): Oh, that's a trust programming committee, sorry.

[0:56:49] Trustee Fast (probable): April 29th.

[0:56:50] Trustee Fast (probable): Trustee Allen, you've been patient, thank you.

[0:56:53] Trustee Fast (probable): Go ahead.

[0:56:53] Trustee Allen: Yeah, I just want, so Trustee Scott,

[0:56:56] Trustee Allen: are you also wanting to do an insert

[0:56:58] Trustee Allen: in the Tribune paper as well,

[0:57:00] Trustee Allen: all sort of saying that or is this something different now maybe

[0:57:04] Trustee Fast (probable): that could be a separate

[0:57:05] Trustee Fast (probable): motion yeah

[0:57:06] Trustee Scott (probable): i think it is something separate but i yeah okay

[0:57:10] Trustee Fast (probable): um i second

[0:57:11] Trustee Allen: um yeah i second

[0:57:13] Trustee Allen: okay

[0:57:13] Trustee Fast (probable): thank you so we've got a motion moved and seconded um uh and uh do any more uh katherine

[0:57:21] Trustee Fast (probable): oh hi so

[0:57:23] Voice 11: did you want the motion to read in until the next meeting date in may or until

[0:57:30] Voice 11: until after the report is received.

[0:57:34] Trustee Scott (probable): April 29th.

[0:57:37] Trustee Scott (probable): What I heard somebody say was we needed a date.

[0:57:41] Trustee Scott (probable): Not after the ABC report, but a date.

[0:57:44] Trustee Scott (probable): So then we can table it until the next meeting

[0:57:47] Trustee Scott (probable): and decide then what we're gonna do with it,

[0:57:49] Trustee Scott (probable): whether we table it again or we want to.

[0:57:52] Trustee Fast (probable): April 29th is on our agenda

[0:57:53] Trustee Fast (probable): as the next local trust committee meeting.

[0:57:57] Trustee Fast (probable): Trustee Allen.

[0:57:59] Trustee Allen: I just wanted to friendly amendment to add that date

[0:58:01] Trustee Allen: in the motion okay

[0:58:04] Trustee Fast (probable): and i'm seeing nodding

[0:58:05] Trustee Allen: reluctant nodding okay

[0:58:08] Trustee Fast (probable): so now we all know

[0:58:10] Trustee Fast (probable): what the motion is any more discussion trustee scott you've got your hand up

[0:58:16] Trustee Scott (probable): yeah no i don't know

[0:58:17] Trustee Fast (probable): okay uh if there's no more discussion then i'll call the question all those

[0:58:23] Trustee Fast (probable): in favor one two three hands go up that passes unanimously thank you very much and uh and then

[0:58:30] Trustee Fast (probable): Did you want to make another motion, Trustee Allen, about further public consultation?

[0:58:38] Trustee Allen: Trustee Scott was the one who initiated that one.

[0:58:41] Trustee Fast (probable): Oh, okay.

[0:58:42] Trustee Fast (probable): Trustee Scott?

[0:58:44] Trustee Scott (probable): Well, given that, as Wendy pointed out, am I on mute again?

[0:58:50] Trustee Scott (probable): What have I done?

[0:58:50] Voice 3: No, that's good.

[0:58:51] Voice 3: We can hear you.

[0:58:56] Trustee Scott (probable): I think it's always a good idea to put these things out, but without some description about

[0:59:01] Trustee Scott (probable): why and you know some background around it just putting something out just a bunch of numbers

[0:59:05] Trustee Scott (probable): um it makes it difficult for people to really understand it so i'm not i'm not quite sure on

[0:59:14] Trustee Scott (probable): that um you mentioned heather that that they did that or on who mentioned on denman i mentioned it

[0:59:21] Trustee Fast (probable): about denman so i think staff we're putting together some wording about that uh maybe uh

[0:59:27] Trustee Fast (probable): regional planning manager,

[0:59:28] Trustee Fast (probable): you could tell us,

[0:59:31] Trustee Fast (probable): would there be background?

[0:59:34] Voice 10: Background in the advertisement?

[0:59:38] Voice 10: We didn't.

[0:59:39] Voice 10: We were just referring people

[0:59:41] Voice 10: to the website

[0:59:41] Voice 10: and a link to the bylaw,

[0:59:44] Voice 10: essentially.

[0:59:45] Voice 10: I mean, the more wording

[0:59:46] Voice 10: we have, the more expensive that is.

[0:59:47] Voice 10: So we try to just refer people to it.

[0:59:50] Voice 10: But yeah, I mean, it can be longer.

[0:59:56] Trustee Fast (probable): Trustees, what do you think?

[0:59:57] Trustee Fast (probable): Go ahead, Grant.

[0:59:59] Trustee Scott (probable): Well,

[1:00:00] Trustee Scott (probable): think since we've deferred this let's leave this question until after the next meeting because we

[1:00:06] Trustee Scott (probable): could theoretically say then if we need i mean i don't think there's a monstrous rush on there we

[1:00:11] Trustee Scott (probable): want to do it but um i think there's two questions in my mind is that question about heather if you

[1:00:17] Trustee Scott (probable): could look that up for us about when this bylaw 132 was how long is this how long has this been

[1:00:23] Trustee Scott (probable): now since these were changed i'd really like to know that i think that brings bearing on it and

[1:00:29] Trustee Scott (probable): And secondly, I think I would suggest we just leave it as it is now without necessarily advertising it and see what comes up between now and April

[1:00:41] Trustee Fast (probable): 29th.

[1:00:42] Trustee Scott (probable): Yeah, because as the APC is going to be considered this further and there'll be more opportunity for the public to go to those APC meetings.

[1:00:49] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay, thank you. Trustee Allen.

[1:00:52] Trustee Scott (probable): Yeah,

[1:00:52] Trustee Allen: and I agree with Trustee Scott as well as what Heather said earlier that it's still

[1:00:58] Trustee Allen: going to be going with our OCP LAB review, it's still going to be coming to the community

[1:01:03] Trustee Allen: to have comments.

[1:01:03] Trustee Allen: So we're maybe just ahead of our game there.

[1:01:06] Trustee Allen: So I'm in agreement to just hold off.

[1:01:09] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay, so we've passed the motion to defer to April 29.

[1:01:14] Trustee Fast (probable): We've heard from the Chair Wendy of the Advisory Planning Commission, and we're not going to

[1:01:21] Trustee Fast (probable): make any further motions. This is what I'm gathering. Trustee Allen.

[1:01:25] Trustee Allen: Sorry, just one more

[1:01:26] Trustee Allen: thing. I just want to say thank you once again to the APC committee and Chair Wendy Burton. You

[1:01:30] Trustee Allen: guys are doing an amazing job. Thank you.

[1:01:32] Trustee Fast (probable): Very good. And Heather Cower.

[1:01:35] Voice 10: I'll just say the original

[1:01:36] Voice 10: bylaw that, to Trustee Scott's question, the bylaw was adopted in 2007 and amended last in 2018.

[1:01:46] Voice 10: So

[1:01:47] Trustee Fast (probable): there was a little amendment. Okay. Trustee Scott,

[1:01:50] Trustee Fast (probable): did you have something?

[1:01:53] Trustee Scott (probable): No, I just wanted to reiterate what Trustee Allen said.

[1:01:59] Trustee Scott (probable): Just thank Wendy and the EPC for all the work they do.

[1:02:01] Trustee Scott (probable): They've been very active and very supportive and very helpful.

[1:02:03] Trustee Scott (probable): Thank you.

[1:02:05] Trustee Fast (probable): Thank you.

[1:02:05] Trustee Fast (probable): That's great.

[1:02:06] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay.

[1:02:06] Trustee Fast (probable): Well, then, thank you very much, Wendy.

[1:02:08] Trustee Fast (probable): And we'll move on now to the temporary use permit.

[1:02:13] Trustee Fast (probable): We basically covered that, I think, in this discussion, right?

[1:02:17] Trustee Fast (probable): Yes.

[1:02:18] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay.

[1:02:18] Trustee Fast (probable): So we're going to move on now to 7.4.

[1:02:21] Trustee Fast (probable): This is screening of dust and bones.

[1:02:23] Trustee Fast (probable): I put the page 75.

[1:02:27] Trustee Fast (probable): I put this email that we received back in,

[1:02:33] Trustee Fast (probable): oops, lost it here.

[1:02:34] Trustee Fast (probable): Here it is.

[1:02:36] Trustee Fast (probable): This is a project that the local trust committees,

[1:02:41] Trustee Fast (probable): trustees were interested in, but then COVID hit.

[1:02:44] Trustee Fast (probable): And, but it was from back in December, 2017.

[1:02:49] Trustee Fast (probable): That was before my time on this local trust committee.

[1:02:51] Trustee Fast (probable): and uh so i'm wondering uh if you would is is the time right um to do a screening of dust and bones

[1:03:00] Trustee Fast (probable): uh there was interest from this group a while ago but um covid had hit and we still don't

[1:03:07] Trustee Fast (probable): um have assurance that it won't derail it again uh but what what is your uh pleasure trustees

[1:03:15] Trustee Fast (probable): anybody got any thoughts or do we want to wait go ahead trustee scott i

[1:03:20] Trustee Scott (probable): assume when this was

[1:03:22] Trustee Scott (probable): was suggested in 2017, it would be something in the hall.

[1:03:27] Trustee Scott (probable): It wouldn't be.

[1:03:29] Trustee Scott (probable): I believe so.

[1:03:29] Trustee Scott (probable): It wouldn't be.

[1:03:30] Trustee Scott (probable): So it's very difficult to do that.

[1:03:37] Trustee Scott (probable): So has Denman already done this?

[1:03:40] Trustee Fast (probable): Yes, they did it in October.

[1:03:42] Trustee Fast (probable): They went ahead before everything closed down again.

[1:03:45] Trustee Scott (probable): Oh, I see.

[1:03:47] Trustee Scott (probable): How would we physically, how would it be done?

[1:03:51] Trustee Fast (probable): Well, they gathered in their hall.

[1:03:52] Trustee Fast (probable): Go ahead, Trustee Allen.

[1:03:53] Trustee Fast (probable): Yeah,

[1:03:54] Trustee Allen: I was just gonna say when we discussed it way back when it was going to be renting the hall and then the two individuals be coming and there'll be a presentation and talk and stuff but it would be at the hall, because that's the only.

[1:04:04] Trustee Allen: That's where we can really do, you know, big screens films.

[1:04:08] Trustee Fast (probable): So

[1:04:08] Trustee Scott (probable): maybe the timing

[1:04:09] Trustee Fast (probable): isn't right I don't know. Go ahead trustee Scott.

[1:04:11] Trustee Scott (probable): Well it would be very good to do it in the hall I mean, there's no doubt at all we do it I just I absolutely agree with so is this the right time to do it.

[1:04:19] Trustee Scott (probable): But I mean, you can, you know, we can do Zoom things.

[1:04:23] Trustee Scott (probable): You can put these videos out by Zoom.

[1:04:25] Trustee Scott (probable): There's all kinds of different ways of doing it.

[1:04:26] Trustee Scott (probable): The Conservancy is doing that right now with five or six different videos.

[1:04:30] Trustee Scott (probable): And it's good, but it's not the same as people getting together.

[1:04:33] Trustee Scott (probable): So I would, I'd just like to put it off until hopefully this COVID thing allows us to, we

[1:04:41] Trustee Scott (probable): can get back in the ball, but I'm not sure what the restrictions on the number of people

[1:04:47] Trustee Scott (probable): are.

[1:04:47] Trustee Scott (probable): And I think you have to wear masks.

[1:04:50] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay.

[1:04:51] Trustee Fast (probable): OK, and maybe we can just wait until one of you local trustees asks to have it back on the agenda again.

[1:04:58] Trustee Fast (probable): Trustee Allen.

[1:04:59] Trustee Allen: Yeah, I was just going to echo Trustee Scott's words as well that, you know, there's a lot of unknowns right now.

[1:05:04] Trustee Allen: Maybe we should just wait until there's a little more clear what's going on in our world.

[1:05:10] Trustee Fast (probable): Good. Thank you. We had this on the agenda last time, but the email had been so long ago.

[1:05:15] Trustee Fast (probable): That's why it's here today. Go ahead, Trustee Scott.

[1:05:17] Trustee Scott (probable): I just suggest we table this.

[1:05:19] Trustee Scott (probable): i want to keep let's just keep seeing it come on the agenda so it doesn't get fallen off and forgot

[1:05:25] Trustee Scott (probable): so so let's table it till the next okay okay

[1:05:30] Trustee Fast (probable): i'll put that one again okay second that

[1:05:34] Trustee Fast (probable): all right thank you uh dust and bones

[1:05:41] Trustee Scott (probable): yeah

[1:05:43] Trustee Fast (probable): okay uh thank you then let's move down to uh 7.5 this is the letter it didn't get attached

[1:05:50] Trustee Fast (probable): But trustees, you saw it. This was the letter that I put together and then staff had their input and it went to letter of support for the Hornby Island Housing Society and Beulah Creek Village Project.

[1:06:07] Trustee Fast (probable): So just you've you've seen it. It was copied to Director Arbour, the Makola Housing Society, Hornby Island Housing Society, Hornby Ute, us as the local trust committee.

[1:06:20] Trustee Fast (probable): And it's on the website. So anybody can find it there. And I just wanted to let you know it was done. And perhaps, Heather, this could be added to the agenda, if you think it's important, but I know it's at the website. So that's fine. Right? We don't want to burden staff with more going back to agendas that have already happened.

[1:06:44] Trustee Fast (probable): Is that okay with you, gentlemen? Okay. I'm seeing no hands up, so I'll just move on. And thank you, Grant, for drafting the initial part of that letter. And thanks, staff, for facilitating it to get out quickly.

[1:07:01] Trustee Fast (probable): it also by the way went through um uh lisa wilcox our senior intergovernmental advisor had some

[1:07:10] Trustee Fast (probable): input into that uh as well okay so uh let's go to applications and referrals we're at 11 o'clock

[1:07:17] Trustee Fast (probable): and just before we start this does anybody need to take a break justy allen

[1:07:22] Trustee Allen: bring the dog in okay

[1:07:24] Trustee Fast (probable): let's uh let's take a um uh we'll come back at 11 15 how about that get a cup of tea thank you

[1:07:31] Voice 3: okay here we are gathering again trustee scott are you there there he is okay

[1:16:25] Trustee Fast (probable): wonderful and

[1:16:27] Trustee Fast (probable): reese will come in when she's or theresa will come in when she's ready there so first of all

[1:16:33] Trustee Fast (probable): we're on page 76 thank you when

[1:16:37] Voice 3: we're at the page i was gonna say right this is the referral from

[1:16:46] Trustee Fast (probable): denman island uh and uh uh who's going to take this one please go ahead heather yeah that's so

[1:16:55] Voice 10: So this is a referral, there's an OCP and LUV amendment

[1:17:01] Voice 10: related to an application

[1:17:02] Voice 10: for an affordable housing development.

[1:17:06] Voice 10: And so it's coming to the local trust committee

[1:17:09] Voice 10: for referral comment.

[1:17:11] Voice 10: You'll see on page 78 that those are the options.

[1:17:19] Voice 10: You can approve approval recommended

[1:17:22] Voice 10: or interests unaffected by the bylaw

[1:17:26] Voice 10: or approval not recommended

[1:17:28] Voice 10: for some outlined reasons.

[1:17:31] Voice 10: And I can answer questions maybe.

[1:17:37] Trustee Fast (probable): Any questions for the planner?

[1:17:39] Trustee Fast (probable): Our island planner acting as our island planner today?

[1:17:44] Trustee Fast (probable): Nope.

[1:17:45] Trustee Fast (probable): Would somebody like to make a...

[1:17:48] Trustee Fast (probable): Go ahead, Trustee Allen.

[1:17:50] Trustee Allen: Yes, make a motion that we accept it

[1:17:52] Trustee Allen: with no uh interests

[1:17:56] Trustee Fast (probable): unaffected

[1:17:57] Trustee Allen: interests unaffected okay

[1:18:00] Voice 3: trustee scott i

[1:18:06] Trustee Scott (probable): mean it begs

[1:18:08] Trustee Scott (probable): the question to me when i was reading it do we want to do something similar to this

[1:18:14] Trustee Scott (probable): i wasn't sure you requested a comment on any tax

[1:18:21] Trustee Scott (probable): bylaw with potential effect on your agency's interest it comes at a certain

[1:18:26] Trustee Fast (probable): part of the

[1:18:27] Trustee Fast (probable): process i think go

[1:18:28] Voice 10: ahead heather yeah there is a trust council policy that official community plan

[1:18:35] Voice 10: amendments must go to adjacent local trust areas and that's why this is before you

[1:18:42] Voice 10: because there's an ocp amendment involved so

[1:18:45] Trustee Scott (probable): should we refer this on to our epc then because

[1:18:48] Trustee Scott (probable): they're considering this is one of the issues they're considering i mean i

[1:18:54] Voice 10: would not recommend

[1:18:54] Voice 10: amend it um i mean this is only an amendment bylaw for the denman ocp and denman lub um

[1:19:04] Voice 10: it might be something that you'd want the um apc to look at just to consider but i wouldn't

[1:19:12] Voice 10: recommend holding off on your um your decision

[1:19:15] Voice 10: on this no

[1:19:16] Trustee Scott (probable): no that's exactly no no no no refer

[1:19:19] Voice 10: Refer to

[1:19:19] Trustee Scott (probable): them for information.

[1:19:21] Trustee Scott (probable): We're just accepting it now as information.

[1:19:26] Trustee Scott (probable): Sure, I understand that.

[1:19:27] Voice 3: But

[1:19:27] Trustee Scott (probable): I'm also thinking we should refer it on to our EPC for their deliberations because they're considering this issue as well.

[1:19:36] Trustee Scott (probable): So they're two basically separate, as I see it.

[1:19:41] Trustee Scott (probable): Is that so,

[1:19:42] Trustee Scott (probable): Heather?

[1:19:43] Trustee Scott (probable): actually your yeah

[1:19:45] Voice 10: it's it's just that it's very specific to this particular development i'm not

[1:19:51] Voice 10: i'm not sure how it would inform your okay because it's very site specific okay

[1:19:58] Trustee Allen: okay

[1:20:01] Trustee Fast (probable): uh go ahead

[1:20:02] Trustee Fast (probable): trustee allen yeah

[1:20:03] Trustee Allen: i just thought it was the cart before the horse we've got something totally

[1:20:06] Trustee Allen: different and we're not even there yet um and also i just have real concerns with cons referring

[1:20:11] Trustee Allen: referring things to abc they're already at negative in their funding i don't know when

[1:20:14] Trustee Allen: any more money is going to come from and uh to be honest this is my third term and i've not referred

[1:20:20] Trustee Allen: so much to an abc at all and i just have fair concerns with the funding at this point in time

[1:20:24] Trustee Allen: and so i was wondering whether heather could comment at this point or should i wait go

[1:20:31] Voice 10: ahead

[1:20:32] Voice 10: heather i mean i can't you want me to um

[1:20:35] Trustee Allen: well where would we get i'm just looking at our you

[1:20:38] Trustee Allen: know our budget balance and it's like they're minus they spend a lot of money and um you know

[1:20:42] Voice 10: we're near the end

[1:20:43] Trustee Allen: of our term and um they've already got a few you know a lot more there's

[1:20:47] Trustee Allen: still more meetings and some more things and I just I have concerns about that that's all

[1:20:53] Voice 10: yeah and I could more comment more on that maybe when we get to that portion of the agenda and

[1:20:58] Voice 10: we're looking at the LTC budget okay good thanks okay thank you and

[1:21:03] Trustee Fast (probable): I know that the uh chair is

[1:21:05] Trustee Fast (probable): is still listed down as a attendee, so she may be listening.

[1:21:09] Trustee Fast (probable): And I think my main concern is looking at page 78

[1:21:17] Trustee Fast (probable): in order not to slow down the Denman

[1:21:21] Trustee Fast (probable): affordable housing project.

[1:21:23] Trustee Fast (probable): It would be good to have a response from this committee.

[1:21:27] Trustee Fast (probable): Go ahead, Trustee Allen.

[1:21:28] Trustee Allen: Well, can we just return to my original motion

[1:21:30] Trustee Allen: of the interest unaffected?

[1:21:32] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay, thank you.

[1:21:33] Trustee Fast (probable): Do I have a seconder?

[1:21:38] Trustee Fast (probable): I'll second that thank you as the chair of the Denman local trust committee as well we're just

[1:21:44] Trustee Fast (probable): seconding uh uh that the motion that we uh indicate that our interests are unaffected

[1:21:51] Trustee Fast (probable): by that Denman specific bylaw go ahead trustee Scott okay

[1:21:56] Trustee Scott (probable): that's fine that's all I wanted to

[1:21:58] Trustee Scott (probable): know I just didn't like I was thinking about this thing and not in that context so right okay

[1:22:03] Trustee Scott (probable): Okay, so

[1:22:04] Trustee Fast (probable): then I'll just, hearing no more discussion,

[1:22:08] Trustee Fast (probable): I'll call the question.

[1:22:08] Trustee Fast (probable): All in favor?

[1:22:10] Trustee Fast (probable): Thank you.

[1:22:11] Trustee Fast (probable): That's three hands go up, and that motion passes,

[1:22:14] Trustee Fast (probable): that our interests are unaffected.

[1:22:16] Trustee Fast (probable): So we'll move on now to 8.2.

[1:22:20] Trustee Fast (probable): This is the development variance permit for Brigantine Crescent,

[1:22:27] Trustee Fast (probable): and I believe the applicant may be joining us.

[1:22:30] Trustee Fast (probable): I'm not sure.

[1:22:32] Trustee Fast (probable): and uh we've got um planner mahiqua uh before we do i see trustee allen you've got your hand up

[1:22:40] Trustee Allen: yeah i'm just wondering in terms of process and time because we've got a big agenda still ahead

[1:22:43] Trustee Allen: of us uh that we've already had this report we did approve it um and i just think whether we

[1:22:51] Trustee Allen: can just whether we need an actual report if grant has already read it i've read it and uh

[1:22:55] Trustee Allen: the neighbor is fine about it and i just wonder whether we need to go through a whole

[1:22:58] Trustee Allen: process and maybe we can just go to the motion that's all in terms of

[1:23:03] Trustee Fast (probable): maybe the planner could

[1:23:04] Trustee Fast (probable): present her report briefly okay

[1:23:07] Voice 2: sound good i'll just keep it very brief then thank you

[1:23:11] Voice 2: um so basically given the that the accessory building is constructed well back from the lot

[1:23:18] Voice 2: lines staff are anticipating that this variance would be very minor and not have a negative effect

[1:23:24] Voice 2: on neighboring properties or sensitive ecosystems and staff have also received correspondence from

[1:23:30] Voice 2: a neighbor in support of the variance which is attachment five of the staff report and so staff

[1:23:35] Voice 2: are recommending approval of this variance request thank

[1:23:39] Trustee Fast (probable): you very much questions for the planner go

[1:23:41] Trustee Fast (probable): ahead trustee scott no

[1:23:43] Trustee Scott (probable): i was just going to make the motion to okay

[1:23:44] Voice 3: go ahead uh

[1:23:47] Trustee Scott (probable): page

[1:23:51] Voice 3: 79 yeah i'm

[1:23:53] Trustee Scott (probable): for the recommended motion here hold on i scroll down i recommend that the hornby island local

[1:23:59] Trustee Scott (probable): trust committee approve issuance of development variance permit ho dvp slash 2021.2 brackets

[1:24:09] Trustee Scott (probable): thank you

[1:24:13] Trustee Fast (probable): do i have a second thank you trustee allen any more discussion okay then i'll call

[1:24:21] Trustee Fast (probable): a question all those in favor thank you that carries thank you very

[1:24:27] Trustee Scott (probable): much good work and uh now

[1:24:30] Trustee Fast (probable): we're on to 8.3 which is hornby island resort another uh development variance permit this

[1:24:36] Trustee Fast (probable): starts on page 95 of the agenda and uh i believe yeah there we go so uh please take it away planner

[1:24:45] Trustee Fast (probable): mahiqua okay

[1:24:47] Voice 2: so um we're going to take this in a different direction i'm just going to give you

[1:24:51] Voice 2: just a sense that this DVP application is before the LTC for consideration of two variances

[1:24:57] Voice 2: so to increase the maximum height of two accessory buildings from six to seven meters and to

[1:25:05] Voice 2: decrease the required setback of the from the natural boundary of the sea for the proposed

[1:25:10] Voice 2: sewage disposal field from 30 to 18 meters and for the reasons outlined in the staff report staff

[1:25:19] Voice 2: staff had originally recommended that this DVP be issued today. However, staff did hear from

[1:25:25] Voice 2: Comox First Nation this morning that chief and council need more time to consider their support

[1:25:31] Voice 2: of the variance requests. And so staff are now recommending that the LTC pursue alternative one,

[1:25:40] Voice 2: which is to wait until more information and comments are received from KFN before considering

[1:25:46] Voice 2: during this. I spoke with the applicant's agent and emailed the applicant as well. They're in

[1:25:52] Voice 2: agreement that tabling this or postponing it to potentially the May 6th LTC meeting, the next

[1:25:59] Voice 2: meeting. April 29th? I think that's incorrect, actually. I think that says April 29th, 2021.

[1:26:08] Voice 2: 21, I believe the meeting is May

[1:26:10] Trustee Fast (probable): 6th. Thank you. That explains my confusion too, though. Okay.

[1:26:14] Trustee Fast (probable): Yes.

[1:26:15] Voice 2: Thank you. So that would be staff's recommendation so that we can get more

[1:26:22] Voice 2: information from KFN if they are in support of these variances or not. But

[1:26:32] Voice 2: the development permit application, which is separate from the variance, so that's item 8.4

[1:26:37] Voice 2: on the agenda that can be considered separately at today's meeting because it is completely

[1:26:42] Voice 2: separate from the request of the variance. And I see that the applicant and Jack Hornstein and

[1:26:49] Voice 2: this agent Maris McDonald are both in attendance. So if the LTC has questions for them, you might

[1:26:55] Voice 2: need to promote them to speak. So I can take any questions right now.

[1:27:00] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay, questions for the

[1:27:01] Trustee Fast (probable): planner. Go ahead, Trustee Allen.

[1:27:04] Trustee Allen: Sorry, can you repeat? Would you just say trace in terms of

[1:27:07] Trustee Allen: we can go ahead with what without the other um page 99

[1:27:11] Voice 2: yeah so they have a separate application

[1:27:14] Voice 2: for a development permit amendment which is the next item on the agenda so

[1:27:19] Trustee Allen: sewage sewage or is

[1:27:21] Trustee Allen: that for the uh is that the height or the sewage

[1:27:23] Voice 2: neither neither oh

[1:27:26] Trustee Allen: okay so so

[1:27:27] Voice 2: this is this um

[1:27:28] Voice 2: is for the variance request application this is item 8.3 and i was just mentioning that the next

[1:27:34] Voice 2: item on the agenda which is the development permit amendments um that can still be considered today

[1:27:40] Voice 2: it doesn't have to wait for kfn's um comments um

[1:27:44] Voice 6: i'm happy to um maris mcdonald's here i don't know

[1:27:47] Voice 6: if you guys can hear me yep we can hear you

[1:27:49] Voice 6: i'm happy to just explain what the difference is so um

[1:27:53] Voice 6: so we stand

[1:27:54] Trustee Fast (probable): by stand by please maris thank you um more questions for the planner trustee allen

[1:28:01] Trustee Fast (probable): Yeah,

[1:28:02] Trustee Allen: as you know, I'm really all about notification and if people don't hear like you said there's, we had one letter from one neighbor and in fact, there's this other neighbor who's really affected it was right above this property that did not get the

[1:28:16] Trustee Allen: letter. I saw them. I saw the power of attorney their daughter at the gas bar yesterday and happened to mention where you got the letter, because I just noted that her parents did not make any comment.

[1:28:27] Trustee Allen: and they didn't so i wanted i was going to defer this also because of the fact that

[1:28:31] Trustee Allen: whether we did hear from comics first nation and we haven't so that's one thing and as well that

[1:28:37] Trustee Allen: there there's got to be a better notification system because i this is once again the third

[1:28:42] Trustee Allen: time where i've called people up and see did you receive the letter and they haven't and we did a

[1:28:48] Trustee Allen: walk around i just i stood under property looked and they're going to be so impacted by this and

[1:28:52] Trustee Allen: they really want to be able to comment on this so um that's another reason

[1:28:56] Trustee Allen: yeah so i would like to

[1:28:57] Trustee Allen: give you maybe i'll pass theresa the address again and the contact number if i could or somebody else

[1:29:03] Trustee Allen: sure

[1:29:03] Trustee Fast (probable): right after the meeting would be great yeah

[1:29:05] Trustee Allen: because um and i also have concerns with the

[1:29:09] Trustee Allen: actual plans when i look at the plans that are submitted and when i did a look around it it

[1:29:16] Trustee Allen: seems far more expensive than the plans than what's actually going on down there so i was just

[1:29:20] Trustee Allen: wondering whether they're actually currently accurate right up to the current construction

[1:29:25] Trustee Allen: right now or have they deviated slightly I'm not an architect I'm not a geologist I'm nothing I'm

[1:29:30] Trustee Allen: just a trustee

[1:29:31] Voice 2: okay of course I can't comment to that but perhaps Maris can well

[1:29:36] Trustee Fast (probable): hang on before we

[1:29:37] Trustee Fast (probable): go to Maris thank you Maris for standing by uh trustee Scott did you have questions for our

[1:29:42] Trustee Fast (probable): planner because I would wonder if we're going to go with alternative one on page 99 um whether

[1:29:51] Trustee Fast (probable): whether we could save questions for the applicant until we actually consider.

[1:30:00] Trustee Fast (probable): this DVP.

[1:30:02] Trustee Fast (probable): Go ahead, Trustee Scott, questions for the planner?

[1:30:05] Trustee Scott (probable): No, maybe my concern is with Alex.

[1:30:09] Trustee Scott (probable): So I'm not sure it's with planner or with the proponent,

[1:30:14] Trustee Scott (probable): but our concern is definitely about the people in the area

[1:30:18] Trustee Scott (probable): being fully aware of any changes, variances,

[1:30:22] Trustee Scott (probable): development permit changes.

[1:30:24] Trustee Scott (probable): Are they fully aware as they've been public meeting

[1:30:27] Trustee Scott (probable): called down there to inform these people?

[1:30:29] Trustee Scott (probable): and it's it's an island issue beyond just the neighbors as well so i i that's what i've heard

[1:30:37] Trustee Scott (probable): about down there this is probably what we hear more as or i hear more as a trustee than any other

[1:30:42] Trustee Scott (probable): issue on the island so i'll just leave it at that for now okay

[1:30:46] Trustee Fast (probable): would somebody like to make the motion

[1:30:48] Trustee Fast (probable): then of uh uh alternative one on page 99 go ahead trustee allen okay

[1:30:55] Trustee Allen: all right all right

[1:30:59] Trustee Allen: okay i move that's number one i move that the lgc no i move that the hornbeam local trust committee

[1:31:08] Trustee Allen: defer till next meeting until we get information from comics why

[1:31:13] Trustee Fast (probable): don't we just can we just say it

[1:31:14] Trustee Fast (probable): the way it is request further information prior to making a decision on because we're expecting

[1:31:18] Trustee Fast (probable): various we don't know yeah okay

[1:31:21] Trustee Allen: i move that the hornbeam local trust committee requests further

[1:31:23] Trustee Allen: Further information prior to making a decision on application HODVP 2022.1.

[1:31:33] Trustee Fast (probable): Specifically, and then it says specify, so we can say Comox First Nations input and potentially neighbor input, something like that?

[1:31:48] Voice 1: Yes.

[1:31:49] Voice 1: Would

[1:31:49] Trustee Fast (probable): that suit, Teresa?

[1:31:52] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay, good.

[1:31:53] Trustee Fast (probable): So do I have a seconder?

[1:31:55] Trustee Fast (probable): thank you trustee scott any more discussion thank you for standing by maris but we're going to uh

[1:32:04] Trustee Fast (probable): so

[1:32:04] Trustee Scott (probable): alan can i ask a question first before yeah

[1:32:07] Trustee Fast (probable): now

[1:32:07] Trustee Scott (probable): i'm i'm sure this is out of order but

[1:32:11] Trustee Scott (probable): what's the reaction of the opponent is is this does this seem fair to them i mean it's

[1:32:17] Trustee Scott (probable): i don't know is that a fair question

[1:32:20] Trustee Fast (probable): we're only deferring uh let's ask i think theresa said

[1:32:23] Trustee Fast (probable): something about that go ahead theresa so you're asking

[1:32:25] Voice 2: if the applicant is okay with deferring

[1:32:28] Voice 2: it to me yeah

[1:32:29] Trustee Scott (probable): yes

[1:32:30] Voice 2: they're in agreement with that

[1:32:31] Trustee Scott (probable): okay thank you yeah okay

[1:32:34] Trustee Fast (probable): any more discussion

[1:32:37] Trustee Fast (probable): then i'll call the question all those in favor thank you that's three hands went up

[1:32:42] Trustee Fast (probable): for our professional minute taker back there thank you catherine and uh we'll move on now uh to 8.4

[1:32:49] Trustee Fast (probable): which is also the same application and i see maris is still with us so that's all uh in place and

[1:32:56] Trustee Fast (probable): this starts on page 118 and uh i'll just scrolling madly here and uh there we are i'm just going to

[1:33:07] Trustee Fast (probable): get up and close the door because i've got radio sound coming in and then okay please take it away

[1:33:17] Trustee Fast (probable): uh planner mahiqua okay

[1:33:19] Voice 2: uh so the the hornby island resort property has also applied for

[1:33:25] Voice 2: a couple of amendments they have an existing development permit already

[1:33:29] Voice 2: which was issued in November of 2020, but in response to some archaeological considerations

[1:33:36] Voice 2: that have come to their attention since the existing DP was issued, and in order to minimize

[1:33:43] Voice 2: further archaeological impacts during construction and development, they're requesting two amendments

[1:33:49] Voice 2: to their development permit. So first, to change the construction phasing. So right now it's as

[1:33:57] Voice 2: as three phases and to change it to two phases so just it'll change the

[1:34:04] Voice 2: so for example if existing there was phase one had building a and c being constructed first

[1:34:12] Voice 2: building b second and building d and e third so in the new proposal building a is still being

[1:34:20] Voice 2: first in the first phase as well as building d and e and then phase two are left to buildings b and c

[1:34:28] Voice 2: Just to clarify, both the existing DP and the amendment DP, the main pub and restaurant building that has the attached reception office and accessory dwelling unit for the caretaker.

[1:34:42] Voice 2: So that's to be constructed in phase one.

[1:34:46] Voice 2: This is important because the principal commercial use has to be established during the first phase of construction, so that won't change.

[1:34:54] Voice 2: and then the second amendment is to revise the site plan drawings and the floor layout

[1:35:01] Voice 2: for the pub building and these amendments to the layouts and site plans they remain within

[1:35:09] Voice 2: the land use bylaw regulations and continue to meet the dp guidelines so other than that no

[1:35:16] Voice 2: further changes are being proposed all the same terms and conditions will carry over from the

[1:35:21] Voice 2: existing permit to the new amended permit and staff have found that these proposed amendments

[1:35:27] Voice 2: meet the dpa guidelines for commercial centers and the permitted land uses and staff's therefore

[1:35:33] Voice 2: recommending approval of issuance of these amendments the amendment permit and draft

[1:35:39] Voice 2: resolution wording can be found on page one of the staff report thank

[1:35:45] Trustee Fast (probable): you just page 118 of our

[1:35:47] Trustee Fast (probable): our agenda uh thank you very much and um when the uh um now the planner spoken do we have questions

[1:35:56] Trustee Fast (probable): for the planner or do we want to give it an opportunity for the uh applicant uh to speak

[1:36:02] Trustee Fast (probable): to indicate their concurrence or any omissions or uh issues that they've got go ahead trustees

[1:36:08] Trustee Fast (probable): alan um

[1:36:10] Trustee Allen: i had a request from staff there was two covenants listed under this application

[1:36:15] Trustee Allen: based on what happened with the Wiseman application

[1:36:17] Trustee Allen: where nobody knew about this covenant

[1:36:19] Trustee Allen: and then they couldn't even subdivide anyway.

[1:36:20] Trustee Allen: So we wasted a lot of time.

[1:36:22] Trustee Allen: So I actually found a copy

[1:36:25] Trustee Allen: in my giant tomb of papers over there.

[1:36:28] Trustee Allen: I actually found the covenant 219

[1:36:30] Trustee Allen: and there's a lot of information here

[1:36:32] Trustee Allen: that's not being followed.

[1:36:34] Trustee Allen: And I just like to know

[1:36:35] Trustee Allen: where this covenant stands with this application.

[1:36:39] Trustee Allen: And whether Teresa,

[1:36:40] Trustee Allen: Teresa, whether you are aware of the, this was back in March 22, 2011.

[1:36:47] Trustee Allen: What covenant?

[1:36:49] Trustee Allen: Yeah, on this property, and there's a lot of things that are listed,

[1:36:54] Trustee Allen: that there's from landscaping to building orientation to building products

[1:36:58] Trustee Allen: to even sewage treatment and disposal, recycling.

[1:37:04] Trustee Allen: It's very extensive.

[1:37:06] Trustee Allen: So I just wanted to know whether you have that copy of that.

[1:37:10] Voice 2: What's the covenant number?

[1:37:14] Trustee Allen: I tried to find out in here. You have two covenant numbers in your package,

[1:37:20] Voice 3: but it

[1:37:21] Trustee Allen: doesn't say it's about the RCD.

[1:37:25] Trustee Allen: I tried to find a number. It doesn't say it anywhere.

[1:37:28] Trustee Allen: But it's basically between the trust committee and the FASH.

[1:37:34] Trustee Allen: No, I've been looking. I just found it this morning and I've been looking constantly for where that number is.

[1:37:39] Trustee Allen: But the two numbers are listed in those boxes earlier.

[1:37:44] Voice 5: Two

[1:37:44] Trustee Allen: covenant numbers. I don't know which one this is.

[1:37:47] Trustee Allen: oh no it just says covenant 219 section land title act section 219 covenant

[1:37:56] Trustee Allen: document ca 2090 177. that's it

[1:38:00] Trustee Fast (probable): thank you that's

[1:38:03] Trustee Allen: the right one

[1:38:03] Trustee Fast (probable): that's the number she needed all

[1:38:05] Trustee Allen: right i don't know if i could find the other covenant um

[1:38:10] Voice 2: so just to comment on that i didn't

[1:38:12] Voice 2: do a deep dive into the covenants for this um amendment because um they were um considered at

[1:38:22] Voice 2: the the previous time that this development permit was issued already and so the staff

[1:38:27] Voice 2: report at that time it probably spoke to those covenants already um i'd have sorry i'd have to

[1:38:34] Voice 2: look into it further if that's to

[1:38:37] Trustee Allen: be honest i don't think they did and um i'm just concerned

[1:38:41] Trustee Allen: I'm concerned because we've been through this before and I'm not trying to hold things to be a bad news bear here just have all the process and because it took so long with that last application and then it turned out they couldn't do what they wanted.

[1:38:54] Trustee Allen: I just don't want to waste staff time.

[1:38:57] Trustee Allen: So,

[1:38:57] Trustee Fast (probable): okay, thank you for bringing that up. Yeah,

[1:38:59] Trustee Fast (probable): no way I can find

[1:39:00] Trustee Allen: any is by scanning it and sending it because it's a, it's just a paper document.

[1:39:05] Trustee Allen: okay

[1:39:05] Trustee Fast (probable): thank you and i see uh planning manager car has joined us uh go ahead heather yeah i

[1:39:12] Voice 10: mean i

[1:39:13] Voice 10: remember that the the covenants were addressed in the original application and staff report so

[1:39:20] Voice 10: those have been reviewed the original dp was issued um with those covenants being considered

[1:39:28] Voice 10: are heard and um and and the amendments that are being requested wouldn't be affected by

[1:39:35] Voice 10: what's in the covenants that's how i understand it because

[1:39:38] Trustee Fast (probable): you were you were planning manager

[1:39:41] Trustee Fast (probable): when that process took place right right

[1:39:44] Trustee Fast (probable): thank you uh i'm not seeing anything from trustee scott are

[1:39:48] Trustee Fast (probable): you still with us i'm just checking yeah okay i

[1:39:53] Voice 3: am well

[1:39:54] Trustee Allen: alex just want to follow up with what

[1:39:58] Trustee Allen: heather said um yeah that was we had an election in october i was elected and it was before uh it

[1:40:04] Trustee Allen: was in the summer time so i wasn't even there so that's what happened so that's why i don't know

[1:40:09] Trustee Allen: about it well

[1:40:11] Voice 10: and i i just mean when but

[1:40:12] Trustee Allen: it's still a

[1:40:13] Voice 10: planner james let's let

[1:40:15] Voice 10: heather speak

[1:40:16] Voice 10: yeah go ahead heather yeah and i guess i'm referring to when uh planner jamie devinia

[1:40:21] Voice 10: brought the original application to the ltc um that was that was well after the election

[1:40:28] Voice 10: that was um the current current makeup of the ltc i'm

[1:40:34] Trustee Fast (probable): looking on page 118 and it says um 2020

[1:40:42] Trustee Fast (probable): um that the hornby island local trust committee approve issuance of hodp 2019.5 so that would

[1:40:50] Trustee Fast (probable): have been november 6th 2020 so that's in this term and that was

[1:40:55] Trustee Fast (probable): jamie dubenia yeah i

[1:40:56] Trustee Allen: know that but

[1:40:57] Trustee Allen: But this, I don't think the covenant was phrased at all

[1:41:00] Trustee Allen: in any of the correspondence

[1:41:02] Trustee Allen: because I would have been on it right away

[1:41:03] Trustee Allen: just because of the previous, that's all.

[1:41:07] Trustee Allen: Okay.

[1:41:08] Trustee Allen: I just want to know, okay,

[1:41:10] Trustee Allen: can this be brought up with the previous two variances

[1:41:14] Trustee Allen: or is this a done deal regarding the covenant

[1:41:16] Trustee Allen: that they don't have to do anything that's listed there

[1:41:20] Trustee Allen: because it's already gone through an approval already?

[1:41:22] Trustee Fast (probable): I saw Planner Mahiqua had something to contribute.

[1:41:26] Trustee Fast (probable): just pulled up the

[1:41:27] Voice 2: old staff report from november 20th november 6th 2020 nope uh

[1:41:39] Voice 2: september 28th 2018 and attachment two to that report was the site context

[1:41:47] Voice 2: and the site context lists two covenants so the one i think you were mentioning ca 2090177

[1:42:00] Voice 2: The site context reads, held by the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee, the covenant was registered in 2011 to ensure that the design, construction, and operation of buildings on the subject property incorporate rainwater catchment, green roofs, water conservation fixtures, energy conservation, landscaping, paving, lighting, sewage treatment, and recycling.

[1:42:24] Voice 2: recycling. None of those things are being amended with this amendment. And it says the covenant

[1:42:32] Voice 2: also grants the statutory right-of-way to an agent of the LDC. So that's not applicable.

[1:42:38] Voice 2: In terms of expanding on whether the covenant's being followed, I really would try and talk to

[1:42:48] Voice 2: Maris McDonald who's the acting agent for this file and you have him here today so he might be

[1:42:56] Voice 2: able to provide more information on that thank

[1:42:59] Trustee Fast (probable): you for hunting that up does that answer your

[1:43:02] Trustee Fast (probable): question Alex yes

[1:43:04] Trustee Scott (probable): thanks thank

[1:43:05] Trustee Fast (probable): you trustee Scott my

[1:43:07] Trustee Scott (probable): question I guess it's to Mr. McDonald is

[1:43:12] Trustee Scott (probable): I mean covenants in my mind are things you legally have to do it's not something you can

[1:43:18] Trustee Scott (probable): um decide to do or not to do so that's my understanding but i that might be wrong so

[1:43:24] Trustee Scott (probable): have all of those what um theresa just mentioned have all of those been covered off

[1:43:30] Trustee Scott (probable): in the various developments okay

[1:43:35] Trustee Fast (probable): thank you i think what we'll do now is uh give maris a chance to

[1:43:38] Trustee Fast (probable): uh chime in here marissa you've heard our conversation here and um if you want to uh

[1:43:45] Trustee Fast (probable): advise the LTC about any errors or omissions or information they're looking for or any

[1:43:52] Trustee Fast (probable): concurrence with the staff recommendation and report? Please go ahead.

[1:43:57] Voice 6: Yeah, no, I didn't think

[1:43:58] Voice 6: we were going to be talking about the 219. But we did address all those items in our first development

[1:44:02] Voice 6: permit, green roofs, the rainwater catchment and all of that. A lot of that comes in the landscaping

[1:44:08] Voice 6: phase, which is we're a far cry from that at this point. But the trustee is absolutely right. It's a

[1:44:14] Voice 6: legal obligation so that things have to be put in place so thank

[1:44:19] Trustee Fast (probable): you any other questions for

[1:44:21] Trustee Fast (probable): the applicant go ahead alex yeah

[1:44:24] Trustee Allen: i just noticed in the design there's only one water catchment

[1:44:26] Trustee Allen: tank back where the old staff house was um do none of the other

[1:44:31] Voice 6: that's sorry that's actually

[1:44:34] Voice 6: the act the rain that's not the catchment tank that's actually the well tank okay yeah that's

[1:44:40] Voice 6: providing water to the facility uh through the well and then the rain catchment barrels will

[1:44:45] Voice 6: be added to the downspouts and then have overflows that will actually filter back into the landscape

[1:44:50] Trustee Allen: and then i'm just curious the recommendation whether the covenant says the sewage treatment

[1:44:54] Trustee Allen: disposal you're supposed to install and operate in a renko advantex sewage filtration system or

[1:45:01] Trustee Allen: an alternative system having a minimum equivalent operational features like i'm not ron mcmurtry so

[1:45:07] Trustee Allen: i have no idea i

[1:45:09] Voice 6: uh we had a great meeting actually the other day with the kfn with ron

[1:45:12] Voice 6: and I have a much better understanding of septic systems now and we have a an exceptional system

[1:45:19] Voice 6: for this resort that includes a whole bunch of things that are above my pay grade but it needs

[1:45:26] Voice 6: and exceeds that actually thank you thank

[1:45:29] Trustee Fast (probable): you questions for the applicant trustee Scott or

[1:45:33] Trustee Fast (probable): the planner go ahead

[1:45:34] Trustee Scott (probable): has okay has has kfn been approved informed of this and have they accepted

[1:45:46] Trustee Scott (probable): it and are they okay with it that's question one i have another one um i think

[1:45:53] Trustee Fast (probable): um uh that's a

[1:45:54] Trustee Fast (probable): question for the planner go ahead theresa uh

[1:45:57] Voice 2: yes so kfn is aware of the the application that you

[1:46:01] Voice 2: tabled so item 8.3 so they're more considered in consideration of the variance requests

[1:46:12] Voice 2: which has to do with like why you're why they're trying to do like sorry minimize

[1:46:19] Voice 2: archaeological disturbance so more digging changing the height so that less archaeological

[1:46:26] Voice 2: geological sites need to be disturbed as well as the septic putting that in a different spot

[1:46:32] Voice 2: which requests the variance this is a the one you're considering right now is not changing the

[1:46:41] Voice 2: like it's not specific to the sewage it's not specific

[1:46:47] Trustee Fast (probable): to the sewage yes

[1:46:48] Voice 2: the amendments are

[1:46:49] Voice 2: for the phasing of the like which buildings get built in which order and what the layout of the

[1:46:55] Voice 2: the pub looks like right

[1:46:57] Voice 11: thank you everything everything

[1:46:58] Voice 2: else remains as is and as it already

[1:47:02] Voice 2: does in the existing permit that they've been issued okay

[1:47:05] Trustee Fast (probable): thank you Maris uh

[1:47:07] Voice 6: do you mind yeah

[1:47:08] Voice 6: I'll just I'll explain the what we've done here so the phasing basically we're just trying to

[1:47:12] Voice 6: tighten up the construction schedule so there's not three phases because I think that we can all

[1:47:16] Voice 6: agree it'd be great to minimize the um the schedule on the site as well just for the effects of

[1:47:21] Voice 6: of Hornby Island residents and all.

[1:47:24] Voice 6: The pub changes, what we've done is mirrored the pub

[1:47:27] Voice 6: before most of our excavation was off in the corner

[1:47:31] Voice 6: where there is a considerable midden.

[1:47:34] Voice 6: So we wanted to minimize the impacts on that.

[1:47:37] Voice 6: So the two variances that were already passed and deferred,

[1:47:40] Voice 6: which we totally agree with,

[1:47:42] Voice 6: we've been in many meetings this week with KFN

[1:47:45] Voice 6: and all very positive.

[1:47:47] Voice 6: And the pub changes also have been discussed

[1:47:51] Voice 6: with the KFM but they weren't necessarily commenting on them. What we've done is try to

[1:47:57] Voice 6: reduce the amount of excavation by actually mirroring the pub design so the pub's just

[1:48:03] Voice 6: on the opposite end so there's less excavation towards the mound at the south end of the site.

[1:48:11] Trustee Fast (probable): Thank you does that answer your question? Go ahead Grant.

[1:48:18] Trustee Scott (probable): Yes and no but I'm still concerned

[1:48:21] Trustee Scott (probable): concerned that from what Teresa said that KFN might not still be interested in concern

[1:48:31] Trustee Scott (probable): about this things are changing things are moving um so Maris it sounds like they're all right with

[1:48:39] Trustee Scott (probable): this but I don't I don't hear any you didn't say that they fully they've seen this development

[1:48:44] Trustee Scott (probable): from an application that they go along with it should we not let me can I just finish one bit

[1:48:51] Trustee Scott (probable): should should that not be referred to them

[1:48:55] Voice 6: they've they have seen the application um and they can

[1:49:01] Voice 6: provide comment for it uh in the future for sure if you want that but it it would be it'd be nice

[1:49:08] Voice 6: to carry on um within the development permit that we have already so i

[1:49:15] Trustee Scott (probable): understand that but you're

[1:49:16] Trustee Scott (probable): you're applying for a new development permit right uh

[1:49:19] Voice 6: an amendment to the existing ones

[1:49:22] Trustee Fast (probable): Thank

[1:49:22] Voice 2: you. Go ahead, Planner Mahikwa.

[1:49:26] Voice 2: So, yeah, as I wrote in the staff report, it's staff's understanding that the KFN has seen these.

[1:49:36] Voice 2: And like Maris just mentioned, they've been talking about these changes with KFN, not just the variance request, but also the flipping of the pub layout.

[1:49:46] Voice 2: out so it they flipped the pub layout because because of kfn's concerns so there this is a

[1:49:57] Voice 2: response to kfn's concerns i i don't know sorry how to expand on um like the bc arc branch and

[1:50:06] Voice 2: kfn both want to like reduce and minimize impacts and so this is a solution to that that they've

[1:50:15] Voice 2: brought forward to the kfn thank

[1:50:18] Trustee Fast (probable): you uh that might that helps me because i wasn't i was getting

[1:50:22] Trustee Fast (probable): confused over the word mirrored go ahead trustee allen yeah

[1:50:26] Trustee Allen: i can i can see where trustee scott's

[1:50:28] Trustee Allen: coming from it's kind of um you know they've already expressed concerns kfn regarding the

[1:50:34] Trustee Allen: two variances that you know are still talking about digging and impacting the property and

[1:50:39] Trustee Allen: archaeological findings etc so i don't i don't understand why these are two separate in a way

[1:50:45] Trustee Allen: because I mean I did a little I looked at it from the road the other day and

[1:50:49] Trustee Allen: it does it there's like there's shells everywhere it seems like the whole place is impacted on an

[1:50:53] Trustee Allen: archaeological dig and so I yeah I don't I mean I know I guess you've have had KFN because we've

[1:51:01] Trustee Allen: been not Grant and I have been totally skipped out of all these meetings with you know we're

[1:51:05] Trustee Allen: out of the whole process but I understand that I'm hoping that Hank uh Angus Rempel has actually

[1:51:12] Trustee Allen: she appeared there on site in person or somebody from the Comox First Nations have they at all

[1:51:17] Trustee Allen: appeared personally on site?

[1:51:21] Trustee Fast (probable): Trustee Mahiko is that information or Planner Mahiko is that the

[1:51:25] Trustee Fast (probable): information that you have?

[1:51:27] Voice 2: So I haven't been in on the meetings with KFN either that's strictly

[1:51:32] Voice 2: between KFN and the proponent. Okay.

[1:51:37] Voice 2: And my understanding sorry my understanding is that

[1:51:39] Voice 2: that it's chief and council that need more time

[1:51:42] Voice 2: to consider the variances,

[1:51:44] Voice 2: not to consider the mirroring of the pub layout

[1:51:48] Voice 2: and which buildings get built in which order.

[1:51:51] Trustee Fast (probable): Thank you very much.

[1:51:53] Trustee Fast (probable): And Trustee Grant, I'm just gonna hop in here to say,

[1:51:56] Trustee Fast (probable): we could, one of the alternatives that's on page 120

[1:51:59] Trustee Fast (probable): is very similar to the alternative that we made

[1:52:02] Trustee Fast (probable): for the earlier one for your consideration.

[1:52:05] Trustee Fast (probable): I'm not proposing it,

[1:52:06] Trustee Fast (probable): but uh because that wording might be useful to you number one uh go ahead trustee scott did you

[1:52:14] Trustee Fast (probable): have something you wanted to ask am

[1:52:19] Trustee Scott (probable): i okay let me read that again the ltc may request for their

[1:52:23] Trustee Scott (probable): paper well what i want to do what i want to do is because it's a development permit it's down

[1:52:33] Trustee Scott (probable): clearly on a midden it's on a burial site i want us to know that the comox first nation has received

[1:52:43] Trustee Scott (probable): this development permit application they've had time to review it you know approval is not the

[1:52:51] Trustee Scott (probable): right word but they

[1:52:53] Voice 3: have no objections yes

[1:52:58] Trustee Scott (probable): that would be the way to put it so

[1:53:01] Trustee Fast (probable): if you would like

[1:53:02] Trustee Fast (probable): to make a motion um then you could

[1:53:04] Trustee Scott (probable): use that one

[1:53:04] Trustee Fast (probable): under there and then where it says specify

[1:53:07] Trustee Fast (probable): information required you could say uh that comox nation has no uh confirm that comox nation has no

[1:53:17] Trustee Fast (probable): objections something like that

[1:53:18] Trustee Scott (probable): yes yeah can you say that that

[1:53:23] Trustee Fast (probable): so the motion deny

[1:53:25] Trustee Scott (probable): it that's you're

[1:53:27] Trustee Scott (probable): not it's not sounding like you're saying number two we're just deferring it until comox has had

[1:53:33] Trustee Scott (probable): a chance to review the application right

[1:53:35] Trustee Fast (probable): above it the the text that's in italics okay somebody

[1:53:39] Trustee Fast (probable): want to make that motion under number one right i'm seeing

[1:53:43] Trustee Fast (probable): i'm seeing uh planner mahiqua's hand

[1:53:46] Trustee Fast (probable): and go up, go ahead, Planner Mahiqua.

[1:53:48] Trustee Fast (probable): I

[1:53:49] Voice 2: just should expand on one more thing.

[1:53:51] Voice 2: So the alternatives,

[1:53:54] Voice 2: one of the alternatives is to deny the application.

[1:53:58] Voice 2: Whenever you want to deny a development permit,

[1:54:01] Voice 2: including an amendment to one that's already been issued,

[1:54:04] Voice 2: you have to really be specific

[1:54:06] Voice 2: about which development permit guideline is not being met.

[1:54:11] Voice 2: And in this case, staff are of the conclusion

[1:54:15] Voice 2: that all the development permit guidelines

[1:54:16] Voice 2: have been met with this proposal.

[1:54:19] Voice 2: And so deferring your consideration to hear from Comox

[1:54:25] Voice 2: in this case, unless they're commenting

[1:54:28] Voice 2: on how the development permit guidelines aren't being met,

[1:54:33] Voice 2: it's kind of outside of, yes, the decision.

[1:54:38] Voice 2: Sorry, I don't know how to expand on that more.

[1:54:40] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay, the Comox First Nation doesn't know our guidelines

[1:54:44] Trustee Fast (probable): lines and neither are they required to uphold them. Is that what you're saying? Correct. Thank

[1:54:50] Trustee Fast (probable): you. Trustee Scott.

[1:54:52] Trustee Scott (probable): No, I don't want to deny the application. That's not the objective. We don't

[1:54:58] Trustee Scott (probable): want to make them to have to go through the whole thing all over again to redo it. But what we are

[1:55:02] Trustee Scott (probable): saying is we want to ensure, or I guess we direct staff to refer the application to the Comox First

[1:55:11] Trustee Scott (probable): As I think, Sue Ellen, you said this earlier, we refer the application to Comox First Nation and ask if they have any input on it.

[1:55:23] Voice 3: Trustee Planner Mahequa.

[1:55:27] Voice 2: So this development permit amendment hasn't been directly referred to Comox First Nation, but they are aware that it is on the agenda and have potential.

[1:55:41] Trustee Scott (probable): Excuse me there.

[1:55:43] Trustee Scott (probable): I don't want to interrupt you, but I am. Being aware is one thing. Being informed by having it sent to them is another thing. And I think it's my responsibility because we got caught in this before.

[1:55:57] Trustee Scott (probable): It's, you know, we don't want to come to this later on

[1:56:00] Trustee Scott (probable): and the process in this stuff is so critical for everybody,

[1:56:05] Trustee Scott (probable): including the proponent.

[1:56:09] Trustee Scott (probable): So that's why I'm suggesting we refer the application

[1:56:13] Trustee Scott (probable): to Comox and then they have a process to review it

[1:56:17] Trustee Scott (probable): and then they'll discuss it with the proponent.

[1:56:20] Trustee Scott (probable): And if it's all right and we get a word back, it's okay.

[1:56:23] Trustee Scott (probable): And everything goes ahead.

[1:56:27] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay, thank you.

[1:56:28] Trustee Fast (probable): Trustee Allen.

[1:56:30] Trustee Allen: Yeah, I totally agree with Grant. We've been this before. We actually passed a motion that we were going to refer almost every single thing and decision, not just that, but every application to Comic First Nation because of the fact that they didn't get anything through the Aboriginal branch or that referring agency. They didn't hear it.

[1:56:50] Trustee Allen: and plus in the middle of COVID and all these things if you don't hear from them it doesn't

[1:56:55] Trustee Allen: mean it's approval and so we Grant and I do not want to go through this again and uh as well if

[1:57:01] Trustee Allen: if they don't approve the variance is both you know with the location of the septic and location

[1:57:07] Trustee Allen: of that or the height that could impact this particular part of you know they might have to

[1:57:12] Trustee Allen: move things around I don't know so I just don't feel I feel it's still attached and I do feel

[1:57:17] Trustee Allen: feel that we have got to honor what we did which is we passed a motion to let them know what's

[1:57:22] Trustee Allen: going on every no matter what okay

[1:57:25] Trustee Fast (probable): thank you and i see uh planning manager kaur has joined us go

[1:57:28] Trustee Fast (probable): ahead heather yeah

[1:57:30] Voice 10: just i hear where this is going and um the reason that it was not referred to kfn

[1:57:38] Voice 10: specifically is because we knew that the reconfiguration was a result of kfn having

[1:57:46] Voice 10: conversations with the applicant and the ARC branch. So they prompted that change by having

[1:57:55] Voice 10: conversations. So we knew that they were not only aware, but had actually had input into this

[1:58:03] Voice 10: redesign. So that is why it wasn't referred, because we understood that that's the way it was.

[1:58:09] Voice 10: As far as I know, too, and correct me if I'm wrong, Teresa, the placement of the septic field and the height won't affect the development permit.

[1:58:21] Voice 10: That's why we're comfortable having you move that forward, because the variance, if you denied the variance, it wouldn't change the development permit or what our recommendation on that.

[1:58:31] Voice 10: Right.

[1:58:35] Trustee Scott (probable): Okay, well then.

[1:58:37] Voice 3: Could we, go ahead, Grant.

[1:58:38] Voice 3: So

[1:58:40] Trustee Scott (probable): can I ask Ben, Heather, and Teresa, have you had confirmation from Comox that they're okay with this?

[1:58:49] Trustee Scott (probable): I heard you say that the conversations that have gone on, have you heard from them directly that they're okay with this?

[1:58:59] Voice 2: Are you

[1:58:59] Trustee Scott (probable): comfortable with that?

[1:59:01] Voice 2: No, we've had confirmation that they need more time regarding the septic placement and the height.

[1:59:08] Voice 2: And

[1:59:08] Trustee Scott (probable): they're okay with this development permit?

[1:59:11] Trustee Scott (probable): that

[1:59:12] Voice 2: I don't have confirmation of I just have what Heather just mentioned that staff based

[1:59:18] Voice 2: or rationale on so

[1:59:21] Trustee Fast (probable): I'm hearing from trustees that you may want to uh move something like that uh

[1:59:28] Trustee Fast (probable): the Hornby Island local trust committee requested the following information be provided prior to

[1:59:33] Trustee Fast (probable): making a decision on this uh development permit uh that Comox First Nation is aware

[1:59:41] Trustee Fast (probable): aware of this application for amendments

[1:59:46] Trustee Fast (probable): and that they have no comment.

[1:59:50] Trustee Scott (probable): Have no comment?

[1:59:52] Trustee Scott (probable): I think no concerns, a little more than comments.

[1:59:56] Trustee Fast (probable): I'm not making the motion.

[1:59:56] Trustee Fast (probable): I'd like one of you guys to make the motion

[1:59:58] Trustee Fast (probable): cause you're the.

[2:00:00] Trustee Scott (probable): Well, if

[2:00:00] Trustee Fast (probable): there's a motion to be made, go ahead, Trustee Scott.

[2:00:04] Trustee Scott (probable): I mean, I'm concerned with the proponent that I see Jack's got to end up that another two or three months goes by.

[2:00:13] Trustee Scott (probable): This may be just fine. Can we, Heather or Tariq, can we get confirmation, Maris or Jack, can you get confirmation, send it to us?

[2:00:22] Trustee Scott (probable): and if they're okay with it we can maybe expedite this and do something in the short term to go so

[2:00:29] Trustee Scott (probable): you can go ahead with it without holding anybody up and other we don't have to wait another two

[2:00:33] Trustee Scott (probable): months can we do that yeah yeah

[2:00:38] Voice 10: i mean you can you would need to have a special meeting in order to

[2:00:42] Trustee Fast (probable): do

[2:00:42] Voice 10: that but you could okay

[2:00:45] Trustee Fast (probable): and uh that's or we could um take the recommendation of staff uh

[2:00:52] Trustee Fast (probable): perhaps I'm putting this forward as another one.

[2:00:56] Trustee Fast (probable): It says, I'm looking on the top of page 118,

[2:00:59] Trustee Fast (probable): subject to the conditions imposed therein

[2:01:03] Trustee Fast (probable): and subject to confirmation

[2:01:08] Trustee Fast (probable): that Comox First Nations have no concerns,

[2:01:12] Trustee Fast (probable): possibly, if we wanted to actually pass it today

[2:01:15] Trustee Fast (probable): with another condition, right?

[2:01:19] Trustee Fast (probable): and i see uh jack hornstein has his hand up so while trustees are looking at that idea

[2:01:27] Trustee Fast (probable): if he's promoted there i see go ahead jack hello

[2:01:32] Voice 1: yep

[2:01:33] Trustee Fast (probable): go ahead yeah

[2:01:35] Voice 1: i just want to sort of fill you

[2:01:36] Voice 1: in what's happened the last couple days um we've been dealing with um todd boychuck their senior

[2:01:41] Voice 1: advisor intergovernmental fellow they've hired and um he called me late yesterday afternoon and he was

[2:01:49] Voice 1: reasonably confident they would he would have the letter for the meeting this morning but he had to

[2:01:54] Voice 1: pull all the counselors and and chief and i think the problem is he probably couldn't get a hold of

[2:01:59] Voice 1: them all but i haven't talked to him today yet um i asked him about the um dp change i said let's

[2:02:06] Voice 1: pull the variances because we we know we need a kfn letter that's not going to go anywhere

[2:02:11] Voice 1: and his first comment was why are we even involved in that he said we don't really have a say and i

[2:02:16] Voice 1: said well that's true um the trustees want letters full of variances but i said i can tell you that

[2:02:23] Voice 1: because the concern on site they'll likely want some kind of comment from from kfn on this

[2:02:30] Voice 1: on this tp change as well but just so you're all aware um the dp change for the pub is something

[2:02:38] Voice 1: that we don't need to do we're only requesting it and flipping the building at the request of

[2:02:44] Voice 1: of kfm with our discussions with them in the art branch um we've changed our our basement um

[2:02:50] Voice 1: we had a six foot basement under the pub we changed that now to the office so it's half the

[2:02:56] Voice 1: size we flipped the buildings to eliminate a fairly significant mitten and the same thing the

[2:03:02] Voice 1: two variances we don't need the variances we could just we could pull them and not revisit them again

[2:03:07] Voice 1: but again in working with with kfn um that three foot variance on those last two buildings for

[2:03:13] Voice 1: height eliminates a considerable amount of excavation as does the septic field to put it

[2:03:18] Voice 1: on perspective when we do our calculations these three these two variances plus flipping the

[2:03:25] Voice 1: building it actually eliminates over 50 percent of what original excavations would be and to put

[2:03:32] Voice 1: in perspective it's equivalent about 90 gravel truck loads of material that's what we're trying

[2:03:37] Voice 1: eliminate and they're all in favor of that so well we don't actually have a letter from kfn

[2:03:43] Voice 1: for this dp change we're only doing it for them and they know that and we know that the art bench

[2:03:49] Voice 1: knows that so i understand grant yes you'd like something in your hand a letter but i can assure

[2:03:53] Voice 1: you that um this is all in all for kfn we don't have to do any of these things including the dp

[2:03:59] Voice 1: change so um yeah that's all i want to say unless you have any other questions thank

[2:04:05] Trustee Fast (probable): you jack uh go

[2:04:06] Trustee Fast (probable): Go ahead, Trustee Scott.

[2:04:08] Trustee Scott (probable): So, well, just let me say, ask Jack and Maris,

[2:04:13] Trustee Scott (probable): if this can work for you.

[2:04:16] Trustee Scott (probable): We could move that we approve subject,

[2:04:22] Trustee Scott (probable): we approve, not the right word,

[2:04:25] Trustee Scott (probable): we approve the development permit application

[2:04:28] Trustee Scott (probable): subject to a letter from KFN

[2:04:32] Trustee Scott (probable): indicating that they have no concerns with the changes.

[2:04:35] Trustee Scott (probable): changes and it sounds like you have that letter it's just a matter of timing you just only get

[2:04:42] Trustee Scott (probable): if you have it today maybe you get it next week and we can just if if that arrives

[2:04:50] Trustee Scott (probable): heather you look at it your staff look at it and it looks okay you can go ahead and issue the permit

[2:04:54] Trustee Scott (probable): right just make a subject two on it

[2:04:58] Voice 3: yep so does

[2:04:59] Voice 1: that work for you jack yeah i think that's fine

[2:05:02] Voice 1: that's i think the best we can ask for at this stage of the game okay so

[2:05:06] Trustee Fast (probable): really what you're

[2:05:07] Trustee Fast (probable): doing is you're taking recommendation one that's at the top of page 118 yeah and

[2:05:13] Trustee Fast (probable): uh and adding

[2:05:14] Trustee Fast (probable): another subject too so would

[2:05:16] Trustee Fast (probable): you like to make that motion it's at the top of

[2:05:20] Trustee Fast (probable): page 118 yeah

[2:05:24] Trustee Scott (probable): that's the hormy island local trust committee approve issue a development permit hodp

[2:05:29] Trustee Scott (probable): 2022.1, subject to receiving

[2:05:35] Voice 3: a letter from the KFN with no objection to the proposed changes.

[2:05:49] Trustee Fast (probable): And can we say subject to the conditions they're imposed therein, just to make it complete?

[2:05:58] Voice 3: Jack, does that sound all right?

[2:06:02] Voice 1: Yes, that'll be fine. Okay. So we're approving the DP

[2:06:07] Voice 1: now just subject to getting

[2:06:09] Voice 1: confirmation that KFN's

[2:06:11] Voice 1: okay with it? Yeah, exactly.

[2:06:13] Trustee Scott (probable): And

[2:06:13] Voice 1: we'll defer the variances

[2:06:15] Voice 1: until the next meeting.

[2:06:17] Voice 1: That's right.

[2:06:18] Trustee Fast (probable): That's what's proposed.

[2:06:19] Trustee Fast (probable): So you make that

[2:06:21] Trustee Fast (probable): motion, Grant?

[2:06:23] Trustee Scott (probable): I do.

[2:06:24] Trustee Fast (probable): And it

[2:06:25] Trustee Fast (probable): has the little bit in there about

[2:06:27] Trustee Fast (probable): subject to the conditions imposed therein?

[2:06:30] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay, I'm seeing

[2:06:31] Trustee Fast (probable): nodding.

[2:06:32] Trustee Scott (probable): I don't quite subject

[2:06:33] Trustee Scott (probable): to the conditions. I don't quite

[2:06:35] Trustee Scott (probable): know what that, what's that mean.

[2:06:37] Voice 2: Go ahead, Planner Mahikwa.

[2:06:39] Voice 2: So as it is right now, the recommendation is that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee approve issuance of the development permit subject to the conditions imposed therein, because there's a list of things that they have to abide by that's listed in the development permit.

[2:06:53] Trustee Scott (probable): I see, okay.

[2:06:54] Voice 2: And so the second half would be and subject to.

[2:06:57] Trustee Scott (probable): Yeah, yeah.

[2:07:00] Trustee Scott (probable): Okay, in addition to.

[2:07:04] Trustee Fast (probable): Can we hear the whole motion from Catherine?

[2:07:06] Trustee Fast (probable): and uh and then you can decide if you're going to second it trustee allen that

[2:07:15] Voice 11: the hormy island

[2:07:16] Voice 11: local trust committee approve issuance of development permit hodp 2022.1 subject to the

[2:07:23] Voice 11: conditions imposed

[2:07:24] Voice 3: therein

[2:07:25] Voice 11: and subject to receiving a letter from the comox first nations with no

[2:07:30] Voice 11: objections to the proposed changes thank you do i have a seconder sorry

[2:07:37] Trustee Allen: wasn't there a here and

[2:07:38] Trustee Allen: therein and therein after after didn't you add something at the end it was i didn't hear it

[2:07:44] Trustee Allen: oh sue ellen

[2:07:45] Trustee Fast (probable): added it was in there

[2:07:47] Voice 11: but uh please read it again sorry that

[2:07:50] Voice 11: the hornby island local

[2:07:52] Voice 11: trust committee approved issuance of development permit hodp 2022.1 subject to the conditions

[2:08:00] Voice 11: imposed therein and subject to the to receiving a letter from the comox first nation with no

[2:08:08] Voice 11: no objections to the proposed changes.

[2:08:10] Trustee Allen: Second.

[2:08:12] Voice 11: Okay, thank you.

[2:08:13] Trustee Fast (probable): And I'm just going to check that receiving a letter from,

[2:08:16] Trustee Fast (probable): would this be the same as seeing a letter?

[2:08:19] Trustee Fast (probable): Cause I gather that letter might be addressed to us, right?

[2:08:26] Trustee Scott (probable): Well, I think it's pretty clear

[2:08:27] Trustee Scott (probable): that you're going to get the letter.

[2:08:29] Trustee Scott (probable): I'm

[2:08:29] Trustee Fast (probable): not seeing any objections from anybody.

[2:08:31] Trustee Fast (probable): So that's great.

[2:08:32] Trustee Fast (probable): So we've got a motion moved and seconded.

[2:08:35] Trustee Fast (probable): Did you second that trustee Allen?

[2:08:36] Trustee Allen: Yes, I did.

[2:08:37] Trustee Fast (probable): Thank you.

[2:08:37] Trustee Fast (probable): And any more discussion?

[2:08:39] Trustee Fast (probable): all those in favor oh oh oh go ahead trustee allen no

[2:08:45] Trustee Allen: i'm not going to talk okay i'm not

[2:08:46] Trustee Allen: all

[2:08:47] Trustee Fast (probable): in favor three hands went up thank you that passes unanimously thank you for

[2:08:53] Trustee Fast (probable): all your uh everybody's work on this and all the contributions thank thank you jack and maris

[2:08:58] Trustee Fast (probable): and um

[2:09:00] Trustee Fast (probable): very good thank you theresa okay we're going to move on now to um 8.5 another development

[2:09:09] Trustee Fast (probable): variance permit and thank you Catherine and everybody and now we're on to uh 8.5 it's 1209

[2:09:15] Trustee Fast (probable): do people want to stop for lunch or can we finish this section I'm

[2:09:20] Trustee Allen: just concerned with Heather uh

[2:09:21] Trustee Allen: she has to get at 245 what do you think I mean I could have a shorter lunch I'm not sure what

[2:09:25] Trustee Allen: everybody else feels I'm not

[2:09:27] Trustee Scott (probable): worried I'd like to carry on just finish yeah

[2:09:30] Trustee Fast (probable): okay let's let's keep

[2:09:32] Trustee Fast (probable): keep rolling okay um uh this one is uh wall and bixby this is the follow-up i think about the

[2:09:40] Trustee Fast (probable): pool go ahead is this heather you taking this one sorry i lost my agenda and i need to bring it back

[2:09:50] Trustee Fast (probable): yeah no that's fine we're looking at 8.5 and we don't have a page number um because this was

[2:09:56] Trustee Fast (probable): referring to a previous um meeting um which i think was december the 10th we

[2:10:06] Trustee Scott (probable): not have a piece

[2:10:07] Trustee Scott (probable): of paper in our package about this no

[2:10:10] Trustee Fast (probable): this was relating to um uh the pool we denied a

[2:10:15] Trustee Fast (probable): development variance permit for a pool in the setback and that was uh um another agenda this

[2:10:23] Trustee Fast (probable): was the december 10th agenda um item 9.3 go ahead trustee allen yeah

[2:10:32] Trustee Allen: i had brought this up because

[2:10:33] Trustee Allen: of my concerns with that now they can go ahead but we said they couldn't do one thing they can

[2:10:38] Trustee Allen: still put their pool in and it's right above a heritage road it's a very narrow road that goes

[2:10:43] Trustee Allen: down to the fourth cove it's above the the famous farm um and it's it's not a very stable uh cliff

[2:10:51] Trustee Allen: right it's it's constantly having rocks and things coming down all the time and i'm i'm just kind of

[2:10:56] Trustee Allen: concerned about you know there was no indication whether it's going to be above ground or in ground

[2:11:02] Trustee Allen: there's nothing about what they're going to do there's where's the um water going to go to

[2:11:05] Trustee Allen: considering you know the um gary oaks next door so i was surprised that that we denied that that

[2:11:12] Trustee Allen: particular application they can still go ahead and get a swimming pool despite there's a lot of

[2:11:17] Trustee Allen: um we call it uh delicate uh environment around there and ecosystems and uh so i just like to

[2:11:24] Trustee Allen: hear that's why i brought i wanted it on this meeting so that's the story

[2:11:28] Trustee Fast (probable): okay thank you and

[2:11:30] Trustee Fast (probable): And Grant, did you want to say something first or should we go to Heather?

[2:11:34] Trustee Scott (probable): I just want to say what's the ask?

[2:11:37] Trustee Scott (probable): I don't know what's asked of me.

[2:11:39] Trustee Scott (probable): I don't know what we're supposed to do with this question, this 8.5 here.

[2:11:43] Trustee Scott (probable): Heather, can you expand on that, please?

[2:11:45] Voice 10: Yeah, I mean, I think this is a response to a permit that you were considering at the last meeting.

[2:11:51] Voice 10: And you denied the variance on that, and that's done.

[2:11:55] Voice 10: done but i i think what i'm hearing is i mean what the response to this concern was is that

[2:12:01] Voice 10: your current bylaw allows for them to put a swimming pool there as long as they need the

[2:12:07] Voice 10: setbacks and so i think trustee allen's concerned about what the existing bylaw says and that maybe

[2:12:13] Voice 10: we should consider amendments to it because that's how that would need to work is there would need to

[2:12:19] Voice 10: be amendments to your to your bylaw to restrict those kinds of uses further um so my response to

[2:12:28] Voice 10: that from a staff perspective is that perhaps you should um add that consideration to your

[2:12:36] Voice 10: your project um your ocp lub update project if that's a particular concern

[2:12:43] Voice 10: and

[2:12:44] Trustee Fast (probable): uh i'll just chime in for a second here i had written down um

[2:12:49] Trustee Fast (probable): Maybe we need a steep slope or hazardous areas or sensitive areas, development permit area, something to protect what you're concerned about.

[2:13:01] Trustee Fast (probable): And we could, if you do want to add it as a project, you know, to the list of potential projects, that's down towards the end of our agenda.

[2:13:13] Trustee Fast (probable): agenda. That's item 13.2, but we could certainly discuss it now. I just wanted to point to that's

[2:13:21] Trustee Fast (probable): where the list is. Does that sound fair? Is that what you think it might be, Heather? I had question

[2:13:28] Trustee Fast (probable): marks all over that, but yeah. Trustee Allen, I cut you off and then I'll go to you, Grant.

[2:13:35] Trustee Allen: Maybe I cut you off. I don't know anymore. Yeah, I just, I was surprised that we didn't have that

[2:13:42] Trustee Allen: in our bylaws that particular all along that cliff it's really um you know if there's big heavy rain

[2:13:48] Trustee Allen: you know you're going to see things coming down it's yes there's heavy big rocks but there's a

[2:13:52] Trustee Allen: lot of stuff it's just sort of it just seems very unstable to me and i was very surprised that it

[2:13:56] Trustee Allen: got but then of course it's not alluded to in our maps as being a sensitive area which i found it

[2:14:02] Trustee Allen: very curious so um that's where i was coming from

[2:14:06] Trustee Fast (probable): thank you it sounds like there's two concerns

[2:14:08] Trustee Fast (probable): and hazardous areas and sensitive areas.

[2:14:11] Trustee Fast (probable): Go ahead, Grant.

[2:14:15] Trustee Scott (probable): I mean, you know, I was up there wandering all around there

[2:14:19] Trustee Scott (probable): when we were up there doing that.

[2:14:21] Trustee Scott (probable): The Conservancy was doing the,

[2:14:25] Trustee Scott (probable): looking at it from the other point of view there.

[2:14:27] Trustee Scott (probable): It's in one of the rarest and most ecosystems

[2:14:32] Trustee Scott (probable): in British Columbia, the Gary Oak.

[2:14:34] Trustee Scott (probable): It's right in one of the last relatively undisturbed

[2:14:37] Trustee Scott (probable): Gary Oak system, certainly on Hornby Island

[2:14:40] Trustee Scott (probable): and in the Trust area.

[2:14:43] Trustee Scott (probable): so that was the concern now the question i have that's just a fact it's not this it's not far

[2:14:48] Trustee Scott (probable): enough down the slope that i think alex is actually going to affect going over the slope but

[2:14:52] Trustee Scott (probable): but anyway do they have to come back to get a permit to put the pool in at all or can they

[2:14:58] Trustee Scott (probable): put the pool in regardless go

[2:15:04] Voice 3: ahead heather are there any restrictions on where a

[2:15:07] Trustee Fast (probable): pool can be

[2:15:07] Trustee Fast (probable): placed

[2:15:08] Voice 10: if

[2:15:09] Trustee Scott (probable): it can be placed yeah

[2:15:11] Voice 10: if it um there's no as long as it can meet the setbacks which you

[2:15:15] Trustee Scott (probable): okay

[2:15:15] Voice 10: right well then i

[2:15:17] Trustee Scott (probable): totally agree excuse me i totally agree with alex said we need to

[2:15:20] Trustee Scott (probable): seriously consider changing that bylaw around pools or disturbances in rare ecosystems because

[2:15:31] Trustee Scott (probable): yeah

[2:15:31] Trustee Fast (probable): okay great go ahead alex yeah

[2:15:34] Trustee Allen: i'm just going to reiterate i mean we should know whether when

[2:15:37] Trustee Allen: somebody and as well so we should know what is that pool going to be below ground above ground

[2:15:42] Trustee Allen: i mean that is really important information and this applicant has not supplied at all and when

[2:15:46] Trustee Allen: going to start if it's going to be a blow ground and they're going to start drilling away on that

[2:15:49] Trustee Allen: cliff that is totally going to destabilize all sorts of things so i just i don't understand we

[2:15:54] Trustee Allen: don't have that even that even covered as well so okay

[2:15:59] Trustee Fast (probable): so i'm hearing that you might want to add

[2:16:00] Trustee Fast (probable): something uh to an existing project or to yeah go ahead heather where would be a good place to add

[2:16:09] Trustee Fast (probable): to address these concerns? Yeah,

[2:16:12] Voice 10: you do have your OCP LUV project on your top priorities list,

[2:16:16] Voice 10: and you could certainly add some language in that project description that would include

[2:16:23] Voice 10: this topic.

[2:16:25] Trustee Fast (probable): Right. Thank you. And I'm looking on page 231 at the first thing on the list

[2:16:33] Trustee Fast (probable): is our top priorities report and this says right now the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee would

[2:16:40] Trustee Fast (probable): like a comprehensive official community plan amendment to be prioritized by the regional

[2:16:45] Trustee Fast (probable): planning team topic areas of concern First Nations short-term vacation rentals housing

[2:16:49] Trustee Fast (probable): and the riparian areas development permit area and the project include APC recommendations

[2:16:53] Trustee Fast (probable): regarding the land use bylaw from March last year.

[2:17:00] Trustee Fast (probable): And we could add hazardous slopes, swimming pools

[2:17:09] Trustee Fast (probable): and environmentally sensitive ecosystems, right?

[2:17:14] Trustee Allen: I didn't know we could do that.

[2:17:16] Trustee Allen: I didn't know we could actually add it to.

[2:17:18] Trustee Allen: So maybe

[2:17:20] Trustee Fast (probable): you wanna make a motion to add this to the,

[2:17:22] Trustee Fast (probable): add those three things to the comprehensive

[2:17:26] Trustee Fast (probable): Official Community Plan review.

[2:17:28] Trustee Allen: Do

[2:17:29] Trustee Scott (probable): I have a staff?

[2:17:30] Trustee Fast (probable): Sorry, Grant.

[2:17:31] Trustee Scott (probable): I'd just like to see if Wendy's on.

[2:17:34] Trustee Fast (probable): I don't see.

[2:17:36] Trustee Fast (probable): Oh, she's still there on the list, but I don't see.

[2:17:39] Trustee Fast (probable): Here she comes.

[2:17:41] Trustee Fast (probable): Hello.

[2:17:43] Trustee Fast (probable): I'm here.

[2:17:44] Trustee Scott (probable): Okay, go ahead.

[2:17:45] Trustee Scott (probable): Wendy, can you handle another referral to you, the APC?

[2:17:50] Voice 13: I think we can handle, if it's specific to what you're talking about right now,

[2:17:56] Voice 13: in other words that particular area because we are we are looking right now at vulnerable

[2:18:04] Voice 13: areas that's exactly what we're looking at right now

[2:18:07] Voice 5: okay if

[2:18:08] Voice 13: if you wanted the apc to look at

[2:18:11] Voice 13: vulnerable areas of the type you're describing all over the island i would say that we are we

[2:18:19] Voice 13: are too far along in the work that we're doing but we could look at the specific area that you're

[2:18:26] Voice 13: talking about well

[2:18:29] Trustee Scott (probable): i think it's excuse me i think it's more than that but maybe we could make two

[2:18:33] Trustee Scott (probable): parts to it one is we asked you to look at this specific site and then secondly we you know maybe

[2:18:38] Trustee Scott (probable): when this project you're doing now is over you know if you've still got enough into energy left

[2:18:46] Trustee Scott (probable): for the apc there to add this as a new project today to the apc i

[2:18:50] Voice 13: would suggest that would be

[2:18:53] Voice 13: would be best so something

[2:18:55] Voice 13: very specific site specific or okay

[2:18:59] Voice 5: yeah

[2:19:00] Voice 13: and then and then

[2:19:02] Voice 13: something more general next and yeah we we're still good to go

[2:19:08] Trustee Fast (probable): okay so um would you

[2:19:13] Trustee Fast (probable): want to restrict it just to this property trustees or would you say the slope stretching

[2:19:21] Trustee Fast (probable): from something to something or how would you describe the area that you are considering as

[2:19:26] Trustee Fast (probable): vulnerable hazardous or sensitive um i'm going to go to trustee allen first well

[2:19:32] Trustee Allen: i would i would

[2:19:32] Trustee Allen: just say that specific slope all along above the heritage road that goes down from the top of the

[2:19:39] Trustee Allen: hill there it goes down to fort cove marina and they there's there's about there's two houses

[2:19:46] Trustee Allen: there right now the second house is the one that's requesting it wants to pool and then there's a few

[2:19:51] Trustee Allen: other properties a little bit higher but um and that's not a that's not a big area but i i do

[2:20:00] Trustee Allen: feel it's specific to that and then maybe we could add the swimming pools in general

[2:20:05] Trustee Fast (probable): so did i hear top of the road along something road to ford cove it's

[2:20:10] Trustee Allen: central road it's the

[2:20:11] Trustee Allen: heritage section of central road that's why there's no middle lane middle line in the middle

[2:20:16] Trustee Allen: bit

[2:20:17] Trustee Fast (probable): oh so could that define the area then yes along the heritage portion of central road

[2:20:25] Trustee Fast (probable): towards ford cove yeah

[2:20:28] Trustee Allen: okay

[2:20:29] Trustee Fast (probable): um trustee scott i

[2:20:35] Voice 3: can't hear you

[2:20:40] Voice 3: yeah alder pollen um

[2:20:42] Trustee Scott (probable): i think to describe it it's to the area to the north of

[2:20:48] Trustee Scott (probable): central road in the gary oak ecosystem that's specifically what we're looking at there's a

[2:20:55] Trustee Scott (probable): bunch of you know it doesn't go all the way down it goes part way down the hill it doesn't go all

[2:21:00] Trustee Scott (probable): the way down to fourth coal so if this is the the sensitive gary oak ecosystem north of

[2:21:06] Trustee Scott (probable): uh central

[2:21:08] Trustee Scott (probable): road central road yeah between what's what's the road up behind there houston road is it between

[2:21:13] Trustee Scott (probable): houston houston yeah between

[2:21:16] Trustee Fast (probable): houston and central

[2:21:18] Trustee Scott (probable): road yeah okay

[2:21:19] Trustee Scott (probable): central road and that

[2:21:22] Trustee Allen: was you know

[2:21:23] Trustee Allen: we were addressing the ecosystems right grant like with the gary oak as well as the possible

[2:21:28] Trustee Allen: instability of that cliff if any development happens so that was right we had three things

[2:21:33] Trustee Allen: we had the pools the

[2:21:34] Trustee Scott (probable): cliff is in the cliff is in that ecosystem yes

[2:21:37] Trustee Allen: yeah i just wanted not just to

[2:21:39] Trustee Allen: be gary but also you know as suelda mentioned two things we had sensitive ecosystems and the other

[2:21:45] Trustee Allen: hazardous

[2:21:45] Trustee Fast (probable): slopes

[2:21:46] Trustee Allen: yes okay

[2:21:48] Trustee Fast (probable): and um

[2:21:51] Trustee Allen: swimming pools and

[2:21:53] Trustee Fast (probable): swimming pools so do you if you

[2:21:59] Trustee Fast (probable): it well do you want to make a motion then uh trustee allen so you're making a motion to add

[2:22:05] Trustee Fast (probable): this to the top priority project correct

[2:22:10] Trustee Allen: do i do i is it towards staff or is it just the

[2:22:13] Trustee Allen: hornbeam local trust committee is going to add this to the or just i have to just

[2:22:18] Trustee Allen: add it sorry

[2:22:19] Trustee Fast (probable): you can just add it okay

[2:22:20] Trustee Allen: i move that the hornbeam local trust committee add to project is a project

[2:22:28] Trustee Allen: what is it the

[2:22:30] Trustee Fast (probable): top priority project yeah

[2:22:32] Trustee Allen: the top priority project number one comprehensive ocp

[2:22:34] Trustee Allen: review um was it unstable slopes god i'm so tired hazardous slopes

[2:22:43] Trustee Allen: hazardous slopes

[2:22:43] Trustee Allen: swimming

[2:22:46] Trustee Fast (probable): pools yeah

[2:22:47] Trustee Allen: one that ended at the end okay um

[2:22:50] Trustee Allen: because sensitive ecosystems

[2:22:52] Trustee Allen: or we could

[2:22:53] Trustee Allen: actually work specifically to the gary oak perhaps that area sensitive

[2:22:57] Trustee Fast (probable): gary oak ecosystems north of

[2:23:01] Trustee Fast (probable): of Central Road below

[2:23:04] Trustee Allen: Euston, between Central and Euston.

[2:23:10] Trustee Fast (probable): Between Central and Euston and swimming pools?

[2:23:15] Trustee Allen: Do you want to be specific about swimming pools

[2:23:18] Trustee Allen: or just swimming pools?

[2:23:19] Trustee Allen: Because I want you to address above ground, below ground,

[2:23:22] Trustee Allen: where are you going to dump the water

[2:23:23] Trustee Allen: when you need to clean it, all those things.

[2:23:26] Trustee Allen: What kind of chemicals are going in there?

[2:23:29] Trustee Fast (probable): Thank you.

[2:23:29] Trustee Fast (probable): I'm not seeing Wendy Burton jumping up and down

[2:23:31] Trustee Fast (probable): and waving your hands uh so i'm uh wondering uh catherine can you read back what you've got and

[2:23:38] Trustee Fast (probable): let's make sure it makes sense uh for trustees at

[2:23:44] Voice 11: the hormey island local trust committee add to the

[2:23:47] Voice 11: top priorities project of the comprehensive official community plan review hazardous

[2:23:54] Voice 11: slopes within the sensitive gary oak ecosystems between central and houston roads and oh

[2:24:05] Voice 3: swimming

[2:24:06] Trustee Scott (probable): pools? Aren't the swimming pools covered off in that statement? No, there's no swimming pools

[2:24:15] Trustee Allen: mentioned in that statement.

[2:24:19] Voice 3: Can you read it again? Does it say hazardous slopes?

[2:24:22] Trustee Fast (probable): I just want

[2:24:23] Trustee Fast (probable): to make sure that they know that they're two separate issues. Go ahead.

[2:24:27] Voice 11: That the Hornby Island

[2:24:28] Voice 11: Local Trust Committee add to the top priorities project of the comprehensive official community

[2:24:33] Voice 11: plan review hazardous slopes within the sensitive Gary Oak ecosystems between Central and Houston

[2:24:41] Voice 11: in roads are

[2:24:44] Trustee Scott (probable): we talking about any development within this or what i mean it's it's defining

[2:24:49] Trustee Scott (probable): the area but it's not saying what the interest is seems a bit vague heather can

[2:24:55] Voice 10: you throw in

[2:24:55] Voice 10: whatever the

[2:24:56] Trustee Scott (probable): words are i

[2:24:57] Voice 10: mean it can be sussed out later but we would take that direction to mean

[2:25:03] Voice 10: development generally okay

[2:25:05] Trustee Scott (probable): all right good

[2:25:06] Trustee Allen: yeah because everything's vague in that statement you

[2:25:08] Trustee Allen: know what what are you gonna do about housing what do you do about riparian areas it's all big right

[2:25:13] Trustee Fast (probable): so it

[2:25:14] Trustee Fast (probable): just it defines the area though it

[2:25:17] Trustee Scott (probable): does it finds the area well it just doesn't say what

[2:25:19] Trustee Scott (probable): okay that's good heather you're good with that let's just i second it or whatever we got to do

[2:25:23] Trustee Scott (probable): let's okay

[2:25:25] Trustee Fast (probable): and right now it doesn't include swimming pools it does not

[2:25:30] Trustee Scott (probable): yes it does so i

[2:25:33] Trustee Fast (probable): think uh we're but heather

[2:25:35] Trustee Scott (probable): described it to me it does because that's what you're gonna look at what

[2:25:38] Trustee Scott (probable): what can

[2:25:38] Trustee Fast (probable): go on in there okay so we're looking at at everything including swimming pools in that

[2:25:43] Trustee Fast (probable): that area. Okay. Gotcha. Very good. Thank you. That's how we're all understanding it. Do you

[2:25:48] Trustee Fast (probable): need to hear the motion again? Any more discussion? Can I hear one more time? Sorry. Okay. Can you

[2:25:55] Trustee Fast (probable): read it again,

[2:25:55] Voice 11: please, Catherine? That the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee add to the top

[2:25:59] Voice 11: priorities project of the comprehensive official community plan review hazardous slopes within the

[2:26:06] Voice 11: the sensitive Gary Oak ecosystems between Central and Houston roads and swimming pools.

[2:26:16] Trustee Allen: I know I get what Grant was saying. It is kind of vague because aren't we talking about

[2:26:20] Trustee Allen: development? Isn't that what we're actually saying? I thought we were simply saying we're

[2:26:25] Trustee Scott (probable): looking at development. We're looking at the issue of development that may impact

[2:26:33] Trustee Scott (probable): the delicate whatever ecosystems between central houston roads development

[2:26:44] Trustee Fast (probable): that may impact

[2:26:46] Trustee Fast (probable): the hazardous slopes and the sensitive ecosystem between right well

[2:26:52] Trustee Scott (probable): you don't even have to say

[2:26:53] Trustee Scott (probable): hazardous slopes because that is part of the whole thing about sensitive ecosystems is where

[2:26:57] Trustee Scott (probable): they're hazardous is when they're this sense maybe i'm playing with words here but do you want to

[2:27:02] Trustee Scott (probable): throw in hazardous slope sure does that make you feel better alex okay yes

[2:27:05] Trustee Scott (probable): instead of ecosystems between yada yada and yada yada

[2:27:11] Trustee Fast (probable): central road and and houston road

[2:27:13] Trustee Fast (probable): yeah whatever okay all right so do we all understand it or do you want it read again

[2:27:19] Trustee Fast (probable): go

[2:27:19] Trustee Allen: ahead

[2:27:21] Trustee Fast (probable): katherine i don't understand the change okay i think development that may impact

[2:27:28] Trustee Fast (probable): development

[2:27:29] Voice 11: that may impact okay take

[2:27:31] Trustee Scott (probable): out the swimming pools and

[2:27:34] Trustee Fast (probable): take out the swimming pools

[2:27:35] Trustee Fast (probable): so

[2:27:36] Voice 11: could i read it yes okay that the hornby island local trust committee add to the top

[2:27:43] Voice 11: priorities project of the comprehensive official community plan review development that may impact

[2:27:50] Voice 11: hazardous slopes within the sensitive gary oak ecosystems between central and houston roads no

[2:27:56] Trustee Scott (probable): No, no, passenger slopes and, because it includes both.

[2:28:02] Trustee Scott (probable): It's not, it sounds like it's only steep slopes within.

[2:28:06] Trustee Scott (probable): That's not what we mean.

[2:28:07] Trustee Fast (probable): Very good.

[2:28:07] Trustee Fast (probable): Thank you, everybody, for your patience as we craft.

[2:28:09] Trustee Fast (probable): That

[2:28:10] Trustee Scott (probable): makes sense to you, Heather.

[2:28:11] Trustee Scott (probable): Heather, are you good with that?

[2:28:12] Trustee Fast (probable): Yeah.

[2:28:12] Trustee Scott (probable): Okay, good.

[2:28:14] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay, thank you.

[2:28:14] Trustee Scott (probable): Are you good with that?

[2:28:17] Trustee Scott (probable): Oh, I think so.

[2:28:19] Trustee Scott (probable): Good.

[2:28:19] Trustee Scott (probable): I haven't got enough hair left to go on with.

[2:28:23] Voice 11: Catherine, go ahead.

[2:28:25] Voice 11: when you say and does that mean um that i put hazardous slopes and development that may impact

[2:28:33] Voice 11: sensitive gary oak or does no

[2:28:35] Trustee Scott (probable): development at the very end it's development within steep slopes

[2:28:40] Trustee Scott (probable): and sensitive ecosystem yeah heather no heather's got it i mean well

[2:28:48] Trustee Fast (probable): i know but it needs to be

[2:28:50] Trustee Fast (probable): correct partly for the people that are watching this and so that we all understand the same thing

[2:28:55] Trustee Fast (probable): so thank you Catherine for no

[2:28:57] Trustee Scott (probable): no it's good no no we want to get it right it's

[2:28:59] Trustee Fast (probable): all good yeah let's

[2:29:00] Trustee Scott (probable): not

[2:29:00] Trustee Fast (probable): get impatient with ourselves this is hard work and and it's just

[2:29:03] Trustee Scott (probable): impatient with me not anybody

[2:29:04] Trustee Scott (probable): else okay

[2:29:07] Trustee Fast (probable): I hear you and uh do you want to hear the motion again

[2:29:10] Trustee Scott (probable): nope no okay

[2:29:12] Trustee Fast (probable): so um I'm assuming

[2:29:14] Trustee Fast (probable): then that the mover and the seconder is still okay with this even though we've amended it

[2:29:18] Trustee Fast (probable): right friendly amendments all around we

[2:29:21] Trustee Scott (probable): i mean i'm not you know one thing was very handy i noticed

[2:29:26] Trustee Scott (probable): they can actually put the wording up on the on the screen so we can actually see it so it makes

[2:29:31] Trustee Scott (probable): it clearer on what we're doing i mean this is part of where katherine's trying to listen to all this

[2:29:36] Trustee Scott (probable): yada yada yada and try to interpret it you can see the word is it possible to do that

[2:29:40] Trustee Scott (probable): not now but i

[2:29:42] Trustee Fast (probable): think it will be possible when we can have a full hybrid meeting with zoom and better

[2:29:48] Trustee Fast (probable): Better broadband and better, because right now we're all working from our separate homes, right?

[2:29:54] Trustee Fast (probable): And different computers and stuff.

[2:29:56] Trustee Fast (probable): So, but I hear you, Grant.

[2:29:58] Trustee Fast (probable): I think we'd all like to get to that point.

[2:30:00] Trustee Fast (probable): does that make sense

[2:30:01] Trustee Fast (probable): all right so we've got a motion moved and seconded i think we moved and

[2:30:05] Trustee Fast (probable): seconded that didn't we katherine no we didn't

[2:30:08] Trustee Scott (probable): second i seconded okay

[2:30:13] Trustee Fast (probable): now it's moved and seconded

[2:30:17] Trustee Fast (probable): okay so alex moved it and grant seconded it and we've been got it all down there with katherine's

[2:30:24] Trustee Fast (probable): help uh any more discussion all those in favor one two three hands go up that passes unanimously

[2:30:31] Trustee Fast (probable): thank you very much everybody one

[2:30:33] Trustee Scott (probable): last question heather could you just email us that final wording

[2:30:37] Trustee Scott (probable): at some point yeah

[2:30:39] Voice 10: i will do that and yeah

[2:30:41] Trustee Scott (probable): thanks i just like to see it okay good thanks

[2:30:46] Trustee Scott (probable): thank

[2:30:46] Trustee Fast (probable): you very good everybody okay now we're at 12 30 um do people need to grab a bite to eat or

[2:30:53] Trustee Fast (probable): heather how long are you with us oh

[2:30:56] Voice 10: i'm i need to leave at 2 45 and really that means the meeting

[2:31:00] Voice 10: needs to end at 2 45 since i'm your administrator yes um so yeah

[2:31:04] Voice 10: 245 is when it's to end i'm good

[2:31:06] Voice 10: with a very short lunch if you're very good okay yep so what's the uh

[2:31:11] Trustee Fast (probable): what do you suggest grant

[2:31:14] Trustee Scott (probable): i don't really care about lunch so i mean we can carry on

[2:31:17] Trustee Fast (probable): right now i

[2:31:17] Trustee Scott (probable): don't see the rest of this

[2:31:19] Trustee Scott (probable): has been particularly time consuming so i don't know do we want to just get through it

[2:31:23] Trustee Fast (probable): uh well

[2:31:26] Trustee Fast (probable): we've got the advisory planning commission recommendation there i

[2:31:29] Trustee Allen: just had a comfort

[2:31:30] Trustee Allen: station break then yeah

[2:31:32] Trustee Fast (probable): well let's take 15 minutes uh and then those of us who need to grab something

[2:31:37] Trustee Fast (probable): that would be me uh can so uh we'll come back at 12 45 with enough blood sugar and uh to make good

[2:31:45] Trustee Fast (probable): decisions okay thanks everybody 12 45 heather

[2:31:57] Trustee Scott (probable): i just ate a piece of your banana bread that's why

[2:31:59] Trustee Scott (probable): i'm not hungry oh good that i made that i made for the meeting it was nice

[2:32:04] Voice 10: yeah now it's going

[2:32:05] Voice 10: going to be your meeting food

[2:32:07] Trustee Scott (probable): it will i'll bring it i'll bring it to the next one awesome i knew

[2:32:11] Trustee Scott (probable): i'm not this one okay all

[2:32:13] Trustee Scott (probable): right thanks 12

[2:45:25] Voice 3: 46 panelists are you with me grant i just saw you

[2:45:35] Voice 3: a moment ago and there's alex

[2:45:37] Trustee Fast (probable): thank you everybody very good so let's reconvene i think grant is

[2:45:43] Trustee Fast (probable): there i saw him a moment ago yep okay then um that was a quick break we're just going to 12

[2:45:52] Trustee Fast (probable): that was 12 30 12 45 we're going to go on to 9.1 of our agenda here which is uh advisory

[2:45:59] Trustee Fast (probable): planning commission recommendation public use zoning and um this is on page 149 of our agenda

[2:46:08] Trustee Fast (probable): and we have uh heather with us again if uh whoops 149 sorry if um we would like her to uh present

[2:46:24] Trustee Fast (probable): this part which might be best I don't know this is Hornby Island APC

[2:46:30] Trustee Fast (probable): recommendation to the local trust committee so I'm going to ask Heather

[2:46:37] Trustee Fast (probable): sorry ask Wendy she would go ahead go

[2:46:41] Voice 3: ahead Wendy I

[2:46:45] Voice 13: hope that I hope the

[2:46:47] Voice 13: document that you have before you will answer the questions generally as far as

[2:46:53] Voice 13: As we can see, this was an error in transcription

[2:46:57] Voice 13: that occurred sometime before 2018.

[2:47:02] Voice 13: And a line has been left out of the zoning permissions.

[2:47:11] Voice 13: And the consequence then is that our local SPARC,

[2:47:18] Voice 13: which is a space where we are doing water testing

[2:47:22] Voice 13: at the moment is actually in contravention of the bylaws.

[2:47:26] Voice 13: And there is some very preliminary discussion

[2:47:31] Voice 13: of some crown land acquisition that may lead

[2:47:35] Voice 13: to multifamily dwellings.

[2:47:41] Voice 13: And that is also precluded as a result of this omission.

[2:47:45] Voice 13: So we are hoping that this is simply a clerical error

[2:47:51] Voice 13: that has been addressed at least twice in the past according and if you look at your package

[2:47:57] Voice 13: you'll see the messages from former trustee tony law i can find nothing in the records that

[2:48:05] Voice 13: indicate this was this line was left out deliberately and so we are simply requesting

[2:48:12] Voice 13: that it be put back in as soon as possible to uh well to make ongoing activities at spark

[2:48:19] Voice 13: legally conforming but also to facilitate any housing development on that community land

[2:48:28] Voice 13: thank

[2:48:31] Trustee Fast (probable): you very much um wendy and i have a question if i may um i can i can see making

[2:48:39] Trustee Fast (probable): a recommendation something like that the ltc requests staff to draft an amendment to the

[2:48:44] Trustee Fast (probable): land use bylaw to address uh to add um community trades and services including associated retail

[2:48:56] Trustee Fast (probable): uh to the list but i wonder if you have any comment on the word only

[2:49:03] Trustee Fast (probable): uh because i when i read terry uh sorry tony's letters um i see that what it reads now in the

[2:49:15] Trustee Fast (probable): the site specific regulations for subzone PUA,

[2:49:18] Trustee Fast (probable): public use A, it says the only permitted uses are,

[2:49:25] Trustee Fast (probable): whereas Tony suggests that it should be,

[2:49:28] Trustee Fast (probable): and the previous land use bylaw below it said,

[2:49:32] Trustee Fast (probable): additional public services are.

[2:49:38] Trustee Fast (probable): And so I'm wondering if you have any,

[2:49:40] Trustee Fast (probable): did you have any thoughts about the changes

[2:49:42] Trustee Fast (probable): between only and additional?

[2:49:44] Trustee Fast (probable): when i'm

[2:49:47] Voice 13: sorry i'm sorry sybil and i i'm not following you i i i okay that may be an error

[2:49:54] Voice 13: in my writing i was i was simply supporting the the addition of a line that got left out so i i

[2:50:03] Voice 13: don't know about only and and okay certainly it was not only it is to add that line to the

[2:50:11] Voice 13: permitted uses that are currently in our ocp but but to be honest i didn't quite follow you there

[2:50:18] Voice 13: okay thank

[2:50:19] Voice 13: you uh

[2:50:21] Trustee Fast (probable): i hear you grant go ahead grant heather

[2:50:24] Trustee Scott (probable): can you i think you get the drift

[2:50:27] Trustee Scott (probable): can you rephrase that

[2:50:31] Voice 10: um i don't know like the exact wording and maybe that's not what you mean

[2:50:38] Voice 10: But what I think needs to happen next, or there's kind of two, well, staff need to look into this to see if this is actually a transcription error, you know, which would mean that it was never meant to look the way that it is right now, that it was supposed to look some other way.

[2:50:57] Voice 10: and if that's the case if there was some sort of secretarial administrative error then we can go

[2:51:06] Voice 10: back and look at the record and see if it was really meant to be if that if it was administrative

[2:51:10] Voice 10: you know if it's a typo we can just simply fix the fix it administratively as well if for some

[2:51:20] Voice 10: reason there was a bylaw that got adopted unintentionally you know there the language

[2:51:26] Voice 10: which got adopted unintentionally,

[2:51:27] Voice 10: then it might need a bylaw amendment process.

[2:51:31] Voice 10: And so, but either way, staff need to go back

[2:51:34] Voice 10: and look at the record to see which we think it is

[2:51:36] Voice 10: and come back to you with the recommendation.

[2:51:39] Trustee Scott (probable): Thank you.

[2:51:40] Voice 10: So

[2:51:40] Trustee Scott (probable): there, I think there it is that we request staff

[2:51:44] Trustee Scott (probable): to do what you just said.

[2:51:46] Trustee Fast (probable): Yeah, right.

[2:51:47] Trustee Scott (probable): I

[2:51:47] Trustee Fast (probable): have a draft motion

[2:51:50] Trustee Fast (probable): because I was thinking about this too.

[2:51:51] Trustee Fast (probable): And thank you, Wendy, for clarifying.

[2:51:53] Trustee Fast (probable): um uh i i move can i move something i'm sure that

[2:51:59] Trustee Fast (probable): hornby island local trust committee

[2:52:01] Trustee Fast (probable): requests staff to draft an amendment uh to the land use bylaw if needed to address

[2:52:10] Trustee Fast (probable): the discrepancy in i

[2:52:14] Trustee Scott (probable): think i think heather i think i think heather said a little she said review

[2:52:18] Trustee Scott (probable): review the existing, let

[2:52:23] Voice 10: me

[2:52:25] Trustee Scott (probable): finish, review the existing wording and to see if the intention of

[2:52:31] Trustee Scott (probable): the bylaw and then recommend back to us what we should do about it. I heard something right after

[2:52:38] Trustee Scott (probable): you.

[2:52:40] Trustee Fast (probable): I'm happy to take that. Are you, are you moving that grant?

[2:52:44] Trustee Scott (probable): No, not yet. Can you phrase

[2:52:47] Trustee Scott (probable): that into what you were going there pretty good for? I think it kind of got sidetracked. I don't

[2:52:53] Trustee Scott (probable): I just I try to do this without being able to see it I just find really difficult

[2:52:58] Trustee Scott (probable): Heather can you do it I mean I think you know what we're doing you said

[2:53:01] Trustee Scott (probable): yeah

[2:53:01] Voice 10: so the LTC requests staff to review the recommended changes to the bylaw

[2:53:12] Voice 10: and determine whether or not the there needs to be an administrative or bylaw amendment

[2:53:21] Voice 10: to the bylaw, how's that?

[2:53:25] Voice 10: How does that sound, Catherine?

[2:53:28] Trustee Scott (probable): I don't think determine, I think recommend.

[2:53:31] Trustee Scott (probable): And

[2:53:31] Voice 10: make a recommendation, okay.

[2:53:34] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay, thank you.

[2:53:36] Trustee Fast (probable): And Trustee Allen, can't hear you, can't hear you.

[2:53:44] Trustee Allen: Is there the public use zone in that motion

[2:53:48] Trustee Allen: that mentioned the public use zone?

[2:53:51] Trustee Allen: Can I hear the motion again?

[2:53:55] Trustee Fast (probable): Catherine if you could uh read the motion as you understand it as you've got it so far hi

[2:54:05] Voice 11: yes

[2:54:06] Voice 11: an answer to trustee Allen it the way that by the way the motion reads now there's no um

[2:54:15] Voice 11: reference to the actual thing we're looking at the actual bylaw just says bylaw

[2:54:20] Voice 11: uh so i hear

[2:54:22] Voice 5: alex

[2:54:24] Trustee Fast (probable): is asking for it to say public use zone or we could say uh the recommendations

[2:54:29] Trustee Fast (probable): from the apc received at today's meeting right

[2:54:34] Trustee Allen: yes i i think that's too vague if anybody looks

[2:54:37] Trustee Allen: at it as i wasn't at this meeting they wouldn't know what we're talking about we

[2:54:41] Trustee Fast (probable): could have both

[2:54:43] Trustee Fast (probable): okay so if you could read it Catherine with the words public use zone a in it and a reference

[2:54:55] Trustee Fast (probable): to the APC recommendation that we're receiving today's at today's meeting what would it sound

[2:55:04] Trustee Fast (probable): like we're putting Catherine on the spot here that

[2:55:07] Voice 11: the Hornby Island local trust committee

[2:55:09] Voice 11: request staff to review the advisory planning commission recommendations for changes to the

[2:55:21] Voice 11: current public use zone a wording and determine if there needs to be an administrative correction

[2:55:30] Voice 11: or a bylaw recommendation will that

[2:55:36] Trustee Fast (probable): work yeah i'm seeing heather nodding very good does that

[2:55:38] Trustee Fast (probable): meet your concerns trustee allen yes

[2:55:41] Trustee Allen: it does thank you okay so

[2:55:43] Trustee Fast (probable): grant is that your motion yes

[2:55:47] Trustee Fast (probable): thank you uh

[2:55:48] Trustee Scott (probable): do i have a

[2:55:48] Trustee Fast (probable): seconder thank you um i'm moving this meeting right along any more discussion

[2:55:55] Trustee Fast (probable): very good thank you very much wendy i'm going to call the question all those in favor one two three

[2:56:02] Trustee Fast (probable): hands went up that passes thank you very much wendy excuse

[2:56:05] Trustee Scott (probable): me one second wendy wendy are you

[2:56:07] Trustee Scott (probable): you good with that okay yes

[2:56:13] Voice 13: yes that that's fine okay thank

[2:56:15] Voice 13: you very much

[2:56:16] Trustee Allen: grant

[2:56:17] Voice 13: are

[2:56:18] Trustee Allen: you good with

[2:56:18] Trustee Allen: that i

[2:56:21] Trustee Fast (probable): think we're all good on it because we just voted on it so that's great thank you very much

[2:56:25] Trustee Fast (probable): trustees we're on to correspondence here uh these are pages 151 to 160 of our agenda is there any

[2:56:33] Trustee Fast (probable): of this correspondence that uh trustees would like to uh specifically bring out and talk about

[2:56:40] Trustee Fast (probable): it's here for our information and if we want to talk about any of this course that very helpful

[2:56:46] Trustee Fast (probable): to have correspondence written down for us because then we can uh easily see what is being asked go

[2:56:53] Trustee Fast (probable): ahead trustee scott the

[2:56:55] Trustee Scott (probable): only the only question i have is there any follow-up to 102 10-2 and 10-3

[2:57:02] Trustee Scott (probable): I know there's some pretty specific questions there maybe 10

[2:57:10] Trustee Fast (probable): .2 relates directly to

[2:57:12] Trustee Scott (probable): what we did

[2:57:13] Trustee Scott (probable): the motion

[2:57:13] Trustee Fast (probable): we just passed yeah

[2:57:14] Trustee Scott (probable): yeah that one's good but what about 10.3 because she's pointing

[2:57:17] Trustee Scott (probable): out some inconsistencies in the mapping so do we want to follow up with that otherwise we're just

[2:57:26] Trustee Scott (probable): tabling it nothing happens right could we ask staff to take a look at that heather okay so I'd

[2:57:34] Trustee Scott (probable): like i'd like to ask staff to take a look at i read this a while ago but

[2:57:40] Trustee Scott (probable): there we go what what page is 10 3 159

[2:57:48] Voice 3: 159

[2:57:49] Trustee Fast (probable): yeah let

[2:57:53] Voice 3: me grab it excuse me swallowed my tea

[2:58:12] Voice 10: heather yeah if you'll note in that correspondence i had recommended that um perhaps the ltc would

[2:58:20] Voice 10: want to add this to their ocp project as well it would be it could be absorbed into that project

[2:58:29] Voice 10: that's right your notes are

[2:58:31] Voice 3: right at the

[2:58:31] Trustee Fast (probable): top of page 159 yeah

[2:58:35] Voice 3: so

[2:58:37] Trustee Fast (probable): if you'd like to make a motion

[2:58:40] Trustee Fast (probable): alex sorry sorry i

[2:58:42] Trustee Allen: would like that

[2:58:42] Trustee Fast (probable): go ahead alex i

[2:58:44] Trustee Allen: just want to ask a question um i i would have

[2:58:47] Trustee Allen: thought this was just some administrative situation that just gets corrected and that's

[2:58:51] Trustee Allen: that i don't understand why it would be part of an ocp review because it's something that's

[2:58:55] Trustee Allen: incorrect it's it's not pertaining to our specific ocp it's to do with some legend that we had got

[2:59:01] Trustee Allen: wrong is that not correct

[2:59:03] Trustee Scott (probable): um

[2:59:05] Voice 10: no

[2:59:06] Trustee Scott (probable): it's a little more than that i think yeah

[2:59:10] Voice 10: it was my understanding

[2:59:11] Voice 10: that it would be it would need a bylaw amendment in order to change it and um because you're

[2:59:19] Voice 10: contemplating bylaw amendments with your ocp project that that's the place where you'd want

[2:59:23] Voice 10: want to put that in otherwise it's a separate project with a bylaw amendment right which would

[2:59:29] Voice 10: take forever yeah so

[2:59:32] Trustee Scott (probable): the wording that is heather can you give us the wording for what you just said

[2:59:36] Trustee Scott (probable): please yeah

[2:59:37] Voice 10: it's probably similar to the one you did earlier and maybe katherine can help out with

[2:59:43] Voice 10: that um how did we how did we phrase the addition to the ocp project you

[2:59:50] Trustee Allen: moved at the hornbeam

[2:59:51] Trustee Allen: on local trust sorry oh

[2:59:53] Voice 11: sorry no I'm I'm I was looking for the original email in the agenda from

[3:00:00] Voice 11: Shezenko and I can't find it so I was kind of focusing on that so I missed what you want from

[3:00:07] Voice 11: me okay Grant did you catch the wording oh sorry Alex yeah

[3:00:12] Trustee Allen: I moved that the Hornbein Local Trust

[3:00:14] Trustee Allen: Committee add to the OCP there's a project's OCP comprehensive review stable to

[3:00:25] Trustee Fast (probable): the top priority

[3:00:25] Trustee Allen: already projects stable and unstable maybe because i'm unstable right now um to the yeah to the to

[3:00:33] Trustee Allen: the yeah i'm just saying what we worded it before i'm not saying what we're wording now so oh okay

[3:00:39] Trustee Allen: sorry so i move that we that staff oh no i move that we had

[3:00:54] Trustee Allen: sorry i move that we move that we add the aquifer classification system to our project list

[3:01:01] Trustee Allen: of the of the official comprehensive community plan review is that okay does that work for you

[3:01:08] Trustee Allen: grant i think

[3:01:11] Trustee Scott (probable): so and

[3:01:12] Trustee Fast (probable): if maybe if you say uh as uh described in the email from s chazenko

[3:01:20] Trustee Fast (probable): received in our meeting today excuse me i'll just

[3:01:24] Trustee Fast (probable): turn this down yes

[3:01:26] Trustee Scott (probable): that would be good thank you

[3:01:28] Trustee Scott (probable): heather what i was what i was wondering since this isn't really going to happen right away

[3:01:33] Trustee Scott (probable): what do we just table this and you come back just with a recommendation what the wording might be

[3:01:38] Trustee Scott (probable): to the next meeting i mean we're all brain dead right now it seems to be really hard to get i

[3:01:43] Trustee Fast (probable): think i think we've got a few brain cells left we've got enough brain cells how

[3:01:46] Trustee Scott (probable): many i got

[3:01:47] Trustee Scott (probable): i got about three so be careful he's referring to my one this

[3:01:52] Voice 10: is this is my recommendation that

[3:01:54] Voice 10: you that you added to your project description and put it in that so yeah i think we're almost there

[3:02:01] Trustee Fast (probable): okay do people want to hear the motion

[3:02:05] Voice 3: let's

[3:02:06] Trustee Fast (probable): let's ask catherine to read it again

[3:02:10] Voice 11: at the hornby island local trust committee requests staff add the aquifer classification

[3:02:18] Voice 11: system to the top priorities project of the official community plan comprehensive review

[3:02:23] Voice 11: you as described in the email letter of sadie shizenko dated december 19th 2021 okay

[3:02:36] Trustee Scott (probable): that

[3:02:39] Voice 11: sounds clear

[3:02:39] Trustee Fast (probable): yeah okay

[3:02:41] Trustee Fast (probable): so do you move that grant i

[3:02:43] Trustee Scott (probable): do and

[3:02:45] Trustee Fast (probable): do you second that alex i

[3:02:46] Trustee Allen: do thank you

[3:02:48] Trustee Fast (probable): and do you alex second the motion okay any more discussion sound

[3:02:52] Trustee Allen: like we're gonna get married

[3:02:53] Trustee Allen: I know that's

[3:02:56] Trustee Allen: why I was making

[3:02:56] Trustee Fast (probable): a joke sorry to distract you

[3:02:58] Trustee Scott (probable): wait a minute here okay any more

[3:03:01] Trustee Fast (probable): discussion jokes aside uh then uh I'll call the question all those in favor one two three hands

[3:03:09] Trustee Fast (probable): go up thank you very much everybody good decision making at the end of a meeting and uh and now

[3:03:16] Trustee Fast (probable): we're on to shoreline report briefing page 161 so this is a briefing is to provide the subject

[3:03:30] Trustee Fast (probable): report do you want to deal with this today or do you want to look at this on a future meeting

[3:03:36] Trustee Scott (probable): well i think we just accept that i mean okay

[3:03:39] Trustee Fast (probable): good i just wanted to make sure you didn't somebody

[3:03:42] Trustee Fast (probable): didn't have something burning they wanted to move go ahead alex i

[3:03:45] Trustee Allen: don't have something burning that

[3:03:46] Trustee Allen: i want to move but um i just found it very south island centric to be honest when i read it that's

[3:03:53] Trustee Allen: all

[3:03:53] Trustee Fast (probable): okay your comment i see this more as a discussion paper and something to look at for

[3:04:02] Trustee Fast (probable): reference um and uh so let's just receive it then shall we yeah

[3:04:09] Voice 5: for

[3:04:10] Trustee Fast (probable): now and then next time we talk

[3:04:12] Trustee Fast (probable): about something shoreline related we can refer to it is that what you'd like to do yes

[3:04:20] Voice 3: okay thank

[3:04:21] Voice 3: you grant do you have any input there well

[3:04:26] Trustee Scott (probable): only in the i'd like to be sent a copy of this thing

[3:04:30] Trustee Scott (probable): you know because it looks you want

[3:04:34] Trustee Fast (probable): a printed copy yeah

[3:04:35] Trustee Scott (probable): how do you get that how do i get it

[3:04:38] Trustee Fast (probable): um

[3:04:39] Trustee Fast (probable): i think you ask heather to send you a printed copy but we don't usually do that

[3:04:44] Trustee Fast (probable): that. However, with COVID, could that be possible, Heather? Sure. Yeah, I'll put it on my to-do list.

[3:04:51] Trustee Fast (probable): Thank

[3:04:52] Trustee Allen: you. Thank you. Do

[3:04:54] Trustee Fast (probable): you need one too, Alex?

[3:04:56] Trustee Allen: No, thanks. Okay.

[3:04:58] Trustee Fast (probable): And then, so thank you very

[3:05:00] Trustee Fast (probable): much, trustees. Then we'll move on ferry signage, ferry terminal signage for discussion.

[3:05:08] Trustee Fast (probable): this we had added this from our previous meeting to the list looking at pages 214 and 215 i just

[3:05:16] Trustee Fast (probable): provided a couple of uh examples of the kinds of newer uh ferry signage that we have over here in

[3:05:24] Trustee Fast (probable): house sound maybe it doesn't relate to um your situation uh but i can having been involved with

[3:05:32] Trustee Fast (probable): the one on page 214 um this uh this is the second version of this small sign uh that it's on the

[3:05:41] Trustee Fast (probable): bowen side it's not actually at the ferry terminal because on bowen it's like hornby we don't have a

[3:05:48] Trustee Fast (probable): little a terminal we have a little washroom building and um this is actually facing uh

[3:05:55] Trustee Fast (probable): people as they walk off the ferry they see this sign it's about this big like that and um

[3:06:03] Trustee Fast (probable): And it took quite a bit of discussion because Bowen Island Municipality, Islands Trust, so Bowen Island Municipal Council, Islands Trust, especially Lisa, as our senior intergovernmental advisor, and Squamish Nation, especially, and Slale to begin with, were involved.

[3:06:29] Trustee Fast (probable): So it had to be a bunch of relationships built and discussion happened. And then it was up for about six months and it came down again because there were some changes requested from Squamish Nation. And so those changes were made and now it's back up again.

[3:06:47] Trustee Fast (probable): in and um so uh it identifies the um islands trust and the islands trust conservancy which are less

[3:06:54] Trustee Fast (probable): visible on bowen island these days because we have the municipality that's partly why it's laid

[3:07:00] Trustee Fast (probable): out this way and but as a very simple sign lots of work went into it and the other one is just um

[3:07:07] Trustee Fast (probable): an example from uh gambier island this one isn't islands trust associated at all but it's another

[3:07:12] Trustee Fast (probable): one of these welcome to the island and what i think of as a entry sign or a phase one hello

[3:07:21] Trustee Fast (probable): sign whatever you want to call it and uh so i just wanted to give you a couple of examples of how

[3:07:26] Trustee Fast (probable): other islands uh that i'm involved in i'm also the chair of the gambrier island local trust committee

[3:07:32] Trustee Fast (probable): and um uh so i just asked that this be put in here uh i forget what it came out of but it was um

[3:07:41] Trustee Fast (probable): And oh, it was in a Twitter thread, of all things. Anyway, people were posting things like this. So I just had a couple of examples here. And I wondered, do we want to discuss ferry terminal signage further today? Or I wanted also to say that in the communications plan that I mentioned...

[3:08:01] Trustee Fast (probable): You're

[3:08:02] Trustee Scott (probable): doing worse than me on this.

[3:08:04] Trustee Scott (probable): in

[3:08:06] Trustee Fast (probable): the communications plan there is information about signs and uh uh how signs will happen and

[3:08:15] Trustee Fast (probable): that kind of thing and uh i asked for some of the information i just spoke about um to be put in

[3:08:20] Trustee Fast (probable): there so when the communication plan comes out i just want to let you know signs are going to be

[3:08:26] Trustee Fast (probable): addressed and i don't know exactly what it'll say but that's coming that's my report um over to you

[3:08:35] Trustee Fast (probable): guys go ahead alex did

[3:08:38] Trustee Allen: you all did you get all that correspondence i sent you on the history

[3:08:41] Trustee Allen: that we've been talking about the buckley bay sign both dem and island hornby i'm glad you read that

[3:08:47] Trustee Allen: um and i'm for some reason i thought the hiro was going to be about you know make sure you

[3:08:51] Trustee Allen: have reservations before you come to ireland but i just looked at it again it's it's to do with

[3:08:56] Trustee Allen: it's just like the it's like the bain's channel ferry it's not just the dem and ferry it's the

[3:09:00] Trustee Allen: Hornby and Denman Ferry and that

[3:09:03] Trustee Allen: hence that request for the signage at Buckley Bay to say

[3:09:05] Trustee Allen: you're coming to both Hornby and Denman not just to Denman and um and what's so funny is I had to

[3:09:11] Trustee Allen: go for an x-ray the other day and I still can't remember whether it was there or not that sign

[3:09:15] Trustee Allen: on the on the side of the obviously it wasn't otherwise I'd notice everything usually so

[3:09:20] Trustee Allen: I don't think it's there so that sign has disappeared as well so and um if if it is

[3:09:26] Trustee Allen: I'd like to know who are we partnering with, BC Ferries?

[3:09:30] Trustee Allen: Are we also getting Comox First Nations

[3:09:32] Trustee Allen: involved with language?

[3:09:34] Trustee Allen: And so I'd like to know about that

[3:09:36] Trustee Allen: and who's actually facilitating this.

[3:09:39] Trustee Fast (probable): That's great, thank you.

[3:09:40] Trustee Fast (probable): And I remember I did look this up as well

[3:09:42] Trustee Fast (probable): because it's in the reconciliation action plan that we have

[3:09:49] Trustee Fast (probable): that First Nations engagement happened around signs.

[3:09:54] Trustee Fast (probable): So thank you for bringing that up.

[3:09:55] Trustee Fast (probable): go ahead grant yeah

[3:09:58] Trustee Scott (probable): i particularly like the gambier one but my question is and this is this

[3:10:03] Trustee Scott (probable): would be on her and the island not not over on the other side i mean what alex is talking about

[3:10:07] Trustee Scott (probable): i'm sort of i'm concerned that the higher is being that one this one here has got this is

[3:10:14] Trustee Scott (probable): something i've long thought that we should have what or maybe we should have something engaged

[3:10:18] Trustee Scott (probable): with comox and it should have the the language comox language welcoming people that were on the

[3:10:25] Trustee Scott (probable): be on it i think it's really great the way this one is so i don't know if the ferry corporation

[3:10:30] Trustee Scott (probable): did this or the local community did this i believe

[3:10:33] Trustee Fast (probable): the local community yeah

[3:10:36] Trustee Scott (probable): i'm on the

[3:10:36] Trustee Scott (probable): fight ferry advisory committee next meeting next week and if there's something to propose to them

[3:10:42] Trustee Scott (probable): i don't know i don't know if it's done any new this has gotten them to do a ferry so this is

[3:10:46] Trustee Scott (probable): this is on horned on yeah

[3:10:50] Trustee Fast (probable): i uh i've been talking lisa wilcox worked with us on this she would be

[3:10:55] Trustee Fast (probable): a great resource to ask some of these questions to i don't have the answers i just provided a

[3:10:59] Trustee Fast (probable): couple of examples sorry go ahead alex yeah

[3:11:02] Trustee Allen: i'll just say grant that i've been you know

[3:11:04] Trustee Allen: bringing it up at the fairy advisory committee ever since um afc construction built the new

[3:11:08] Trustee Allen: comfort stations the sign disappeared nobody seems to know where it went and i've been bringing up

[3:11:12] Trustee Allen: at every single fc if sorry fac meeting for years and um no answer and they can still contact afc or

[3:11:21] Trustee Allen: contact the ferry guy in Comox and so can you bring it up again because you know that sign is

[3:11:26] Trustee Allen: somewhere and it's not just about First Nations this is all about you know preserving and protecting

[3:11:31] Trustee Allen: our island respecting wildlife etc ecosystems it's that signage but I also

[3:11:37] Trustee Allen: agree with the other

[3:11:38] Trustee Allen: signage

[3:11:39] Trustee Fast (probable): it's it um if I can offer it this is a situation I had on Bowen the sign had been down

[3:11:46] Trustee Fast (probable): for years where was the sign somebody said it was in you know that by the time uh uh staff looked at

[3:11:55] Trustee Fast (probable): it it was too rotten and we had to start from scratch and um just in case that happens to you

[3:12:01] Trustee Fast (probable): i my recommendation would be to uh start over rather than thinking about the old sign but that's

[3:12:07] Trustee Fast (probable): just what happened to me that's the way i would do it but i don't know um do we want to make any

[3:12:13] Trustee Fast (probable): Any specific recommendations other than talking to the fairies, or would trustees like to invite input from our senior intergovernmental advisor trust the Allah.

[3:12:25] Trustee Allen: We earlier said that chair fast that you, you're already sort of, it's already happening so what is happening in terms of signage.

[3:12:34] Trustee Fast (probable): there's a communications plan in the works that claire freighter uh as you know manager of trust

[3:12:41] Trustee Fast (probable): area services is working on um would you like a presentation on that or or uh maybe

[3:12:47] Trustee Allen: we can have

[3:12:48] Trustee Allen: that next meeting i don't know uh how do you feel about that grant i

[3:12:54] Trustee Scott (probable): think that's good i think that's

[3:12:55] Trustee Scott (probable): a good idea okay

[3:12:56] Trustee Fast (probable): i'll add it to the next uh agenda the draft communication plan and um i'll talk to

[3:13:06] Trustee Fast (probable): Claire I guess and find out where that's at and who would like to present it and that kind of

[3:13:11] Trustee Fast (probable): thing and we'll have something on the agenda that'd be

[3:13:13] Trustee Scott (probable): good could you could you make sure

[3:13:14] Trustee Scott (probable): it involves Lisa so could we get we need to it's the first nation's flavor that's going to make it

[3:13:19] Trustee Scott (probable): real

[3:13:19] Trustee Fast (probable): okay otherwise

[3:13:21] Trustee Scott (probable): it's sever's talking again okay

[3:13:25] Trustee Fast (probable): what I'll do then is I'll direct my question

[3:13:27] Trustee Fast (probable): to Lisa and say uh about the the signs um that that Hornby Island Local Trust Committee is

[3:13:35] Trustee Fast (probable): interested in uh in signs and uh the draft communication plan and could she uh either

[3:13:45] Trustee Fast (probable): join us or write up something for us would that be good i'd

[3:13:49] Trustee Scott (probable): encourage you to have a look at the

[3:13:52] Trustee Scott (probable): gambier one if she hasn't already done it because i i think it's just particularly simple and

[3:13:56] Trustee Scott (probable): effective okay

[3:13:58] Trustee Fast (probable): all right and i think we're talking about i'm going to use the word signs with an s

[3:14:04] Trustee Fast (probable): because I think we're talking about several different things and I gathered

[3:14:09] Trustee Fast (probable): that now I get it more and so that's good I put it on the next agenda okay

[3:14:15] Trustee Fast (probable): shall we move on okay then we're on the page then we're on the trust conservancy

[3:14:30] Trustee Fast (probable): islands trust conservancy report is there if anybody has any questions we

[3:14:35] Trustee Fast (probable): can try and answer them i'm on i'm the vice chair um i might be able to answer a question

[3:14:42] Trustee Fast (probable): go ahead grant i

[3:14:44] Trustee Scott (probable): just like to accept it okay okay

[3:14:47] Trustee Fast (probable): that's great and uh applications report

[3:14:51] Trustee Fast (probable): any questions for the planner or heather this is on uh page 219 is where the applications reports

[3:15:03] Trustee Fast (probable): report starts. We made a lot of process today. So this will be changing, I think, next time you see it. Hopefully. Maybe we made progress. We passed motions anyway, with conditions. And I'm not seeing any questions for the applications report. So I'm going to move on. 12.3, Trustee and Local Expense Report. 225 is the page number. Go ahead, Trustee Allen.

[3:15:30] Trustee Fast (probable): Yeah,

[3:15:31] Trustee Allen: as you noted, I expressed concern with the APC budget.

[3:15:35] Trustee Allen: Their mind is $728.45.

[3:15:39] Trustee Allen: But then I noticed that we've got a balance is $4,920, but that's just for projects.

[3:15:47] Trustee Allen: So we can move money around, obviously, right?

[3:15:53] Trustee Allen: That's where I'm really confused about.

[3:15:55] Trustee Allen: That's a big chunk of money that Hornby Health, the Watersheds Initiative, and I haven't heard anything about it for a long time.

[3:16:01] Trustee Allen: i'm just wondering i should have probably bought it earlier i don't know i'm looking at it now

[3:16:05] Trustee Allen: because of the money so is there would you be able to provide anything about that heather and whether

[3:16:09] Trustee Allen: we're able to yeah

[3:16:11] Voice 10: i i'm not able to today but i have been talking to william about it um it's it's

[3:16:17] Voice 10: my understanding that it has to do in part with the freshwater strategy project that's been going

[3:16:22] Voice 10: going on. So yeah, that's that. And in terms of the APC budget, we as RPMs are asked to provide

[3:16:34] Voice 10: updates on what we think trust budgets will be. And I have recently provided an update to finance

[3:16:41] Voice 10: to let them know that I think the APC budget is going to need to be higher. They've got some more

[3:16:46] Voice 10: meetings so i um they're aware of it they're they're shifting things around in your budget

[3:16:52] Voice 10: to make sure that they'll be covered so the apc will be covered in terms of cost and

[3:16:59] Trustee Scott (probable): just to make

[3:16:59] Voice 10: sure that we

[3:17:00] Trustee Allen: don't need to worry sorry

[3:17:01] Trustee Allen: okay

[3:17:01] Trustee Scott (probable): we don't that means we don't have to worry about it

[3:17:03] Trustee Scott (probable): right that's right that's right as long as we get that out make sure wendy knows that yeah yeah

[3:17:11] Trustee Scott (probable): okay okay i see

[3:17:14] Trustee Fast (probable): i think wendy is still with us and uh yeah and uh so that's great you're gonna

[3:17:21] Trustee Fast (probable): we don't have to worry about that part and you're gonna find out about the watersheds initiative

[3:17:25] Trustee Fast (probable): that's terrific any more questions about the budget trustee alan um

[3:17:32] Trustee Allen: our communications is tiny

[3:17:34] Trustee Allen: um ten dollars are we gonna in terms of that's relating to our advertising right so we're gonna

[3:17:39] Trustee Allen: to be advertising for trustee meetings for the next oh next

[3:17:46] Trustee Fast (probable): election you mean or anything so

[3:17:49] Trustee Allen: this ten dollars it's a very tiny amount for um i think

[3:17:52] Trustee Allen: it just takes us

[3:17:53] Trustee Fast (probable): to the end of march

[3:17:54] Trustee Fast (probable): doesn't it

[3:17:54] Trustee Allen: does it okay all right i wasn't sure it

[3:17:58] Trustee Allen: was march or longer okay okay

[3:18:01] Trustee Fast (probable): thank you hearing

[3:18:03] Trustee Fast (probable): no more questions then we'll move on the adopted policies and standing resolutions are there for

[3:18:09] Trustee Fast (probable): for reference and local trust committee webpage,

[3:18:15] Trustee Fast (probable): just in case anybody ever wants to talk about that,

[3:18:17] Trustee Fast (probable): which it looks like we don't,

[3:18:18] Trustee Fast (probable): maybe I'll take that off the agenda then.

[3:18:22] Trustee Fast (probable): Some committees do talk about it, but not lately.

[3:18:26] Trustee Fast (probable): Top priorities report, we just added some things.

[3:18:29] Trustee Fast (probable): This is on page 231.

[3:18:33] Trustee Fast (probable): We added some items to our top priority project today,

[3:18:38] Trustee Fast (probable): several things.

[3:18:39] Trustee Fast (probable): um so we better be careful we don't well anyway uh that's good and um better for it all to happen

[3:18:48] Trustee Fast (probable): at the same time any more changes or questions for the planner about the top priorities report

[3:18:56] Voice 3: go ahead grant i

[3:18:58] Trustee Scott (probable): saw you know i lost it but i saw when i was going to earlier that there's

[3:19:02] Trustee Scott (probable): a reference to to the thatch where did i see that because i think we dealt with that today

[3:19:12] Trustee Scott (probable): Hey, where did I see it?

[3:19:17] Trustee Fast (probable): Applications referred, right?

[3:19:19] Trustee Scott (probable): Sorry.

[3:19:19] Trustee Scott (probable): That

[3:19:20] Trustee Fast (probable): might've been back in the applications.

[3:19:22] Trustee Scott (probable): Yeah.

[3:19:24] Trustee Scott (probable): I have a question.

[3:19:26] Trustee Fast (probable): While you're looking for it,

[3:19:27] Trustee Fast (probable): I have a question, page 231, number three.

[3:19:33] Trustee Fast (probable): This is the minimum average lot area, clarify language.

[3:19:36] Trustee Fast (probable): I wonder if, I think we've done that one.

[3:19:38] Trustee Scott (probable): Oh yeah, we did.

[3:19:41] Trustee Scott (probable): Yeah.

[3:19:41] Trustee Scott (probable): Yeah,

[3:19:42] Voice 10: that isn't quite done because the official community plan amendment bylaw is with the Ministry of Municipal Affairs, and they have to approve it first.

[3:19:53] Voice 10: So we're like 90% done as soon as we hear back from them.

[3:19:57] Voice 10: Thank you.

[3:19:58] Trustee Fast (probable): That's right. I forgot about that step and it can take months in that final step.

[3:20:04] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay, good. Thank you. Any other questions for the planner about the top priorities report?

[3:20:12] Trustee Fast (probable): Did you want to go back, Grant?

[3:20:13] Trustee Fast (probable): Did you find what you were looking for?

[3:20:14] Trustee Scott (probable): No, I had it in my leaf back.

[3:20:18] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay, well, if you have questions, you can always send them by email.

[3:20:22] Trustee Scott (probable): And

[3:20:22] Trustee Fast (probable): so the projects list is there for our reference.

[3:20:26] Trustee Fast (probable): We didn't add any today.

[3:20:28] Trustee Fast (probable): Congratulations.

[3:20:30] Trustee Fast (probable): And just because there's so many things to do,

[3:20:33] Trustee Fast (probable): and I know it's always such a temptation.

[3:20:39] Trustee Fast (probable): Go ahead, Grant.

[3:20:41] Trustee Scott (probable): Oh, I'm sorry, no.

[3:20:42] Trustee Scott (probable): Okay.

[3:20:43] Trustee Fast (probable): All right.

[3:20:43] Trustee Fast (probable): Then with no closed meeting, our next regular meeting is May 6th, 2022.

[3:20:50] Trustee Fast (probable): Right?

[3:20:51] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay.

[3:20:52] Trustee Fast (probable): And then I'd like to thank everybody involved in this meeting.

[3:20:56] Trustee Fast (probable): It's been very efficient and covered a lot of business.

[3:21:00] Trustee Fast (probable): And I'm about to adjourn the meeting.

[3:21:02] Trustee Scott (probable): Did you say April 29th is the next meeting?

[3:21:05] Trustee Fast (probable): I did say that before, but it's actually May the 6th, 2022.

[3:21:10] Trustee Fast (probable): 2022.

[3:21:12] Trustee Scott (probable): Oh, because I got the 29th written down. Yeah.

[3:21:16] Trustee Scott (probable): May the 6th. Okay. Yeah.

[3:21:19] Trustee Fast (probable): I think that was

[3:21:20] Trustee Fast (probable): just a, because it said 2021, I think it was just a copy and

[3:21:23] Trustee Fast (probable): paste that didn't quite get pasted.

[3:21:25] Voice 11: Go ahead, Catherine. Would it be at 10 o'clock again, or 1030? Or has there been a change with

[3:21:32] Voice 11: the 1030 to 10?

[3:21:33] Trustee Fast (probable): That's a good question. Usually, when it's in person, we do it at 1030.

[3:21:40] Voice 3: so

[3:21:40] Trustee Fast (probable): let's assume that it's in person and 10 30 unless we have to go electronic in which case

[3:21:47] Trustee Fast (probable): we might move it to 10. sound good what

[3:21:50] Trustee Scott (probable): about what about even earlier and then just doing it

[3:21:54] Trustee Scott (probable): in the morning nine to noon so it doesn't drag over lunch like heather it's

[3:22:00] Trustee Fast (probable): really hard for me

[3:22:01] Trustee Fast (probable): to get there no

[3:22:03] Trustee Scott (probable): no no no this is assuming you don't have to go anywhere

[3:22:05] Trustee Fast (probable): oh this

[3:22:06] Trustee Scott (probable): is a zoom if

[3:22:07] Trustee Scott (probable): If it's a Zoom meeting, it's what, 9 to noon.

[3:22:13] Trustee Scott (probable): But if it's in person, absolutely, 1030, whenever you guys can get here, obviously.

[3:22:18] Trustee Fast (probable): How do you think that would be for town hall participants and delegations?

[3:22:24] Trustee Fast (probable): 9 o'clock?

[3:22:29] Voice 10: I will say

[3:22:30] Voice 10: one thing is that, you know, on Leskete, we recently had an electronic meeting.

[3:22:35] Voice 10: And they had shifted the start of their meeting from, they did exactly that.

[3:22:41] Voice 10: they made their electronic meeting earlier than they would normally have their in-person meeting

[3:22:45] Voice 10: and they did get some uh negative feedback about that from the community because the community was

[3:22:51] Voice 10: um thinking i have to show up later you know in order so it can get confusing especially around

[3:22:57] Voice 10: a notification if you decide early enough the notifications that can that go out are fine

[3:23:03] Voice 10: you know um just that one bit of feedback we got okay

[3:23:08] Trustee Fast (probable): these ones for hornby and denman both of them

[3:23:13] Trustee Fast (probable): when it's electronic we moved them up to 10 o'clock and uh and it's been working we haven't

[3:23:20] Trustee Fast (probable): heard anything negative from the public or anything um but uh for heather and i who have

[3:23:25] Trustee Fast (probable): to come in um sometimes from nanaimo that the morning of uh often from nanaimo or comox or

[3:23:33] Trustee Fast (probable): somewhere and uh it's hard to get there to make sure that we're there to open up the building and

[3:23:38] Trustee Fast (probable): set up the meeting especially with all the technical equipment go ahead grant there's no

[3:23:43] Trustee Scott (probable): doubt about that no doubt okay this i'm only talking the zooms if we can start at nine i'd

[3:23:51] Trustee Scott (probable): like to propose if it's a zoom the next may 9th meeting if it's a zoom meeting we start at nine

[3:23:57] Trustee Scott (probable): to close to go from nine to noon okay i just

[3:24:03] Voice 12: want to ask

[3:24:03] Trustee Scott (probable): you that works from staff

[3:24:06] Trustee Scott (probable): if it's a zoom yeah that's no

[3:24:08] Trustee Scott (probable): problem okay good

[3:24:11] Trustee Fast (probable): good and

[3:24:12] Voice 3: i'm not seeing

[3:24:12] Trustee Fast (probable): any objections from alex

[3:24:16] Trustee Fast (probable): uh he's

[3:24:17] Trustee Fast (probable): uh okay so we'll discuss that if it happens to be electronic we might have

[3:24:24] Trustee Fast (probable): electronic meetings at any time they might come up because of those storm warnings like

[3:24:28] Trustee Fast (probable): like we had back in November or December, whenever that was.

[3:24:32] Trustee Fast (probable): So that's great input.

[3:24:35] Trustee Fast (probable): Thank you very much.

[3:24:36] Trustee Fast (probable): And I'm going to call a meeting adjourned.

[3:24:39] Trustee Fast (probable): Thanks, everybody.

[3:24:41] Voice 3: Thank you,

[3:24:42] Trustee Fast (probable): Catherine.

[3:24:43] Trustee Fast (probable): Thank you, Heather.

[3:24:44] Trustee Fast (probable): And thanks to all the staff behind the scenes there.

[3:24:47] Trustee Fast (probable): And until Nanaimo, we'll see you in Nanaimo, I hope.

[3:24:52] Trustee Allen: And the people out

[3:24:53] Voice 5: there.

[3:24:55] Trustee Fast (probable): Okay.

[3:24:57] Trustee Fast (probable): Bye.

[3:24:58] Trustee Fast (probable): Bye.

[3:24:59] Trustee Fast (probable): Thank you.

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Hornby Island Local Trust Committee 
Minutes of Regular Meeting 
 
Date: 
Location: 
February 18, 2022 
Electronic Meeting 
 
Members Present: Sue Ellen Fast, Chair 
 Alex Allen, Local Trustee 
 Grant Scott, Local Trustee 
  
Staff Present: Heather Kauer, Regional Planning Manager 
 Teresa Mahikwa, Planner 
 Katherine Vogt, Recorder 
Wil Cottingham, Electronic Meeting Administrator 
Others Present Approximately Eight (8) members of the public 
 Sadie Chezenko, Member of the Hornby Housing Network 
 Wendy Burton, Chair of the Hornby Island Advisory Planning Commission 
 
1. CALL TO ORDER 
"Please note, the order of agenda items may be modified during the meeting. Times are provided 
for convenience only and are subject to change.” 
Chair Fast called the meeting to order at 10:02 am. She acknowledged that the meeting was 
being held in territory of the Coast Salish First Nations. She welcomed Trustees, staff, recorder, 
and members of the public. She noted that the meeting was being held electronically due to 
covid conditions. Members of the public were invited to watch on livestream through the video 
on demand button on the Islands Trust website if they were unable to connect to the Zoom 
Webinar. 
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 
By general consent the agenda was approved as presented. 
3. REPORTS 
3.1 Trustee Reports 
Trustee Scott reported on the following: 
 Increasing taxes are of concern to a number of residents who question if they are 
getting good value for their tax contributions. 
 The next Trust Council meeting on March 8, 9 and 10, 2022 in Nanaimo will most 
likely include lively debate on the proposed Trust budget on Wednesday, March 9.  
 The Draft Islands Trust Policy Statement, also up for debate at the upcoming Trust 
Council meeting, seems too long and complicated and makes one question who it is 
written for. 

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Trustee Allen reported on the following: 
 Phase 3 of public engagement on the Islands Trust Draft Policy Statement will 
include robust public engagement in March and April 2022, including virtual live 
question and answer sessions, community workshops, and focus groups. A summary 
of public responses will be completed in May 2022 and posted on the Islands Trust 
website. Members of the public can email islands2050@islandstrust.bc.ca to make a 
response to the Draft Policy Statement that will be made public. If one wishes to 
privately respond they can contact a Trustee. 
 Stewardship awards are returning soon to celebrate outstanding community 
members and groups. 
3.2  Chair's Report 
Chair Fast reported on the following: 
 The upcoming Trust Council meeting in March will be a hybrid format and may be 
attended in person in Nanaimo or by Zoom Webinar. 
 The agenda for the upcoming Trust Council meeting includes the budget, the Draft 
Policy Statement, and the Governance review to which consultants will be speaking. 
 A recent Financial Planning Committee meeting. 
3.3  Electoral Area Director’s Report 
None. 
4. TOWN HALL  
None. 
5. DELEGATIONS 
5.1 The Hornby Housing Network - April Lewis 
5.1.1 Letters of Support - Beulah Creek 
Sadie Chezenko spoke for the Hornby Housing Network as a board director 
member about the progress of Beulah Creek Village, an affordable housing 
project comprising 26 rental housing units. Recent letters of support from 
individuals, businesses, and organizations on Hornby Island to BC housing were 
highlighted. The recent letter of support from Trustees to BC Housing was 
greatly appreciated. The Hornby Housing Network was further requesting that 
the Local Trust Committee (LTC) waive the project’s development permit fees 
and make processing the permits an LTC top priority. 
o Trustees and Chair Fast thanked Sadie Chezenko for her excellent 
presentation and thanked the Hornby Housing Network board for their hard 
work. 
6. MINUTES 
6.1 Local Trust Committee Minutes dated December 10, 2021 - for adoption 
The following amendments to the minutes were presented for consideration: 

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 Correct the spelling of Trustee Allan to Trustee Allen at five locations: page 2 third 
paragraph; page 4 under 8.1 first paragraph; page 5 second and eighth paragraph; 
page 8 under 13.3 first paragraph. 
HO-LTC-2022-007 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee adopt the Minutes of December 10, 2021 
as amended. 
CARRIED 
6.2 Local Trust Committee Special Meeting Minutes dated January 24, 2022 - for adoption 
HO-LTC-2022-008 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee adopt the special meeting minutes of 
January 24, 2022 as presented. 
CARRIED 
6.3 Section 26 Resolutions-without-meeting Report dated February 10, 2021 
Received. 
6.4 Advisory Planning Commission Minutes dated November 26, 2021 - for receipt 
Received. 
7. BUSINESS ARISING FROM MINUTES 
7.1 Follow-up Action List Report dated February 8, 2022 
 
HO-LTC-2022-009 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee request staff to create a power point that 
describes the Trust and its authority in terms that can be presented on Hornby Island to 
assist public understanding. 
CARRIED 
Trustee Scott requested that this item be put on the next agenda, that it be added to 
the Follow-up Action List, and that approximately 30 slides already existing in Victoria be 
used for the presentation.  
7.2 Model Fees Bylaw Update - Staff Report 
Regional planning Manager Kauer prepared and presented the staff report which asks 
Trustees to consider giving first, second, and third reading to Bylaw No. 169 cited as 
“Hornby Island local Trust Committee Fees Bylaw, 2022,” to replace the present LTC 
Fees Bylaw No. 132.  
Regional Planning Manager Kauer noted the following: 
 The Trust Council model fees bylaw had previously been referred to the Advisory 
Planning Commission (APC) who had recommended it be adopted with special 
consideration given to Temporary Use Permit (TUP) fees. 

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 Draft Bylaw No. 169 is consistent with the Trust Council model fees bylaw except for 
the removal of the option for TUPs for community benefit. 
 Trust council recommends that fees should not be changed more than 20%. 
 The original LTC Fees Bylaw No. 132 was adopted in 2007 and amended in 2018. 
 
APC Chair Burton noted that the high increase in some of the fees seemed reasonable as 
they reflect the extra costs of processing certain types of applications and permits. The 
TUP fee was recommended for special consideration because of the possibility they 
could be bundled for less expensive processing when there was community benefit. 
 
Chair Fast noted that Trust Council had determined that taxpayers should not be 
subsidizing private development.  
 
Trustees discussed appropriate advertising for the proposed fees bylaw and thanked 
APC Chair Burton for the work of the APC. 
HO-LTC-2022-010 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee defer decision on the Fees Bylaw No. 169 
until the next Local Trust Committee meeting on May 6, 2022. 
CARRIED 
7.3 Screening of Dust 'n Bones - for discussion 
Deferred to next meeting due to covid concerns. 
7.4 Letter dated February 8, 2022 to BC Housing from Chair Fast, Hornby Island Local Trust 
Committee regarding Beulah Creek Housing Project 
Chair Fast thanked Trustees and staff for facilitating the letter quickly and noted that 
Senior Intergovernmental Policy Advisor Lisa Wilcox had provided some input and that it 
was available on the Islands Trust website. 
By general consent the meeting recessed at 11:08 am and reconvened at 11:17 am. 
8. APPLICATIONS AND REFERRALS 
8.1 Denman Island Local Trust Committee Referral Request for Response regarding Bylaw 
Nos. 241 and 242 - for decision 
Regional Planning manager Kauer noted that these bylaws involved Official Community 
Plan (OCP) and Land Use Bylaw (LUB) amendments for affordable housing developments 
and that because an OCP amendment was involved, it needed to be referred to the 
Hornby Island Local Trust Committee (LTC). 
HO-LTC-2022-011 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee responds to the Denman Island Local 
Trust Committee referral request for response regarding Bylaw Nos. 241 and 242 with 
interests unaffected. 
CARRIED 

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8.2 HO-DVP-2021.2 (Wiig - 3930 Brigantine Crescent, Hornby, BC) - Staff Report - for 
decision 
Planner Mahikwa prepared and presented the staff report which asks Trustees to 
recommend approval of the application for an increase in the height of an accessory 
studio building from 6.0 metres to 6.46 metres.  
HO-LTC-2022-012 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee approve issuance of Development 
Variance Permit HO-DVP-2021.2 (Wiig). 
CARRIED 
8.3 HO-DVP-2022.1 (Hornstein - Hornby Island Resort) - Staff Report - for decision 
Planner Mahikwa prepared and presented the staff report that recommended that 
Trustees consider approving the permit to increase the maximum allowable height of 
two accessory buildings to 7.0 metres and to decrease the required setback from the 
natural boundary of the sea for a proposed sewage disposal field from 30.0 metres to 
18.0 metres. However, new information coming from K’ómoks First Nation (KFN) has 
updated the staff recommendation for the LTC to defer decision until the next LTC 
meeting on May 6, 2022. 
Trustees noted that the present notification system is not working well and that they 
receive many complaints. A neighbor to this development had not received notification.  
HO-LTC-2022-013 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee request further information prior to 
making a decision on application HO-DVP-2022.1, specifically information from K’òmox 
First Nation and neighbors. 
CARRIED 
8.4 HO-DP-2022.1 (Hornstein - Hornby Island Resort) - Staff Report - for decision 
Planner Mahikwa prepared and presented the staff report which asks Trustees to 
consider approving two amendments to an already existing development permit which 
would involve changes to the phasing of construction and to the site plan.  
Trustee Allen questioned if two covenants from March 22, 2011 between the LTC and 
the Thatch (Land Title Act Section 219 Document CA209177) on the property were being 
followed. 
o Planner Mahikwa responded that a September 18, 2018 Staff report contained the 
covenants which obligates that the site incorporate rainwater catchment, green 
roofs, water conservation fixtures, energy conservation, landscaping, lighting, 
sewage treatment and recycling.   
o Applicant Maris MacDonald responded that the site was adhering to the covenant; 
many aspects of which would be completed in the landscaping phase of 
development. He noted that the septic system for the resort was exceptional and 
exceeds present requirements. He explained that the building phases amendment 

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was to tighten up the construction schedule and that they had been working with 
KFN to reduce excavation on the midden site by altering the pub and septic designs. 
o Applicant Jack Hornstein noted that they had been in recent and regular contact 
with Todd Boychuck, Director, Intergovernmental Relations for KFN and had 
complied with all requests from KFN and the Archaeology Branch. 
Trustees expressed concern that KFN might not have been adequately referred. 
HO-LTC-2022-014 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee approve issuance of Development Permit 
HO-DP-2022.1 subject to the conditions imposed therein and subject to receiving a 
letter from the K’ómoks First Nation with no objection to the proposed changes. 
CARRIED 
8.5 HO-DVP-2021.3 (Wall and Bixby) - follow up discussion 
Chair Fast noted that the item had been addressed in the last LTC meeting of December 
10, 2021 under item 9.3.  
Regional Planning Manager Kauer noted that although the request to build a pool within 
the 8.0 metre required setback adjacent to a covenant protected oak grove had been 
denied at the last meeting, the pool is allowed under existing bylaws if it is situated 
within required setbacks. 
Trustees expressed concern that the property was within very sensitive ecosystems. 
HO-LTC-2022-015 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee add to the Top Priorities Project of the 
Comprehensive Official Community Plan Review: development that may impact within 
the steep slope and sensitive Gary Oak ecosystems between Central and Houston 
Roads. 
CARRIED 
By general consent the meeting recessed at 12:32 pm and reconvened at 12:46 pm. 
9. LOCAL TRUST COMMITTEE PROJECTS 
9.1 Official Community Plan (OCP) and Land Use Bylaw (LUB) Review Project  
9.1.1 Advisory Planning Commission Recommendation - Public Use Zoning Correction 
Chair Burton described the clerical error in the Hornby Island Land Use Bylaw 
150 Section 8.21(1) Public Use Zone (a) which precludes The Hornby Spark from 
operating in their present location and precludes the possibility for multi-family 
dwellings on a piece of community land in the area. 

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HO-LTC-2022-016 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee request staff to review the 
recommended changes from the Advisory Planning Commission to the current 
Public Use Zone (a) bylaw wording and determine if there needs to be an 
administrative correction or a bylaw recommendation. 
CARRIED 
10. CORRESPONDENCE 
Correspondence received concerning current applications or projects is posted to the LTC 
webpage 
10.1 Email dated January 1, 2022 from B. Weiss regarding Bylaw No. 170 
Received. 
10.2 Email dated January 6, 2022 from T. Law regarding Public Use Zoning  
Received. 
10.3 Email dated December 19, 2021 from S. Chezenko and response regarding Hornby 
Island Official Community Plan map correction 
HO-LTC-2022-017 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee add the aquifer classification system to 
the Top Priorities Project of the Official Community Plan Comprehensive Review as 
described in the email letter from Sadie Chezenko dated December 19, 2021. 
CARRIED 
11. NEW BUSINESS 
11.1 Shoreline Report Briefing - for discussion 
Received. 
11.2 Ferry Terminal Signage - for discussion 
Chair Fast presented to Trustees, two recent Islands Trust installed entry signs, one of 
Bowen Island and one of Gambier Island. Senior Intergovernmental Policy Advisor Lisa 
Wilcox, along with First Nations, had been cooperatively involved with the wording and 
design of the signs. The soon to be released Islands Trust Communications Plan will 
contain information on signs. It is in the current Reconciliation Action Plan that First 
Nations are consulted regarding signs. 
Trustee Grant offered to bring the sign issue up at the upcoming Ferry Advisory 
meeting. 
Trustee Allen noted that the original Denman/Hornby entry signs had been missing 
since the new ferry landing comfort buildings were constructed. 

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Trustees requested that a presentation of the Draft Islands Trust Communications Plan 
be put on the agenda for next meeting, along with sign input from Senior 
Intergovernmental Policy Advisor Lisa Wilcox. 
12. REPORTS 
12.1 Trust Conservancy Report dated November 23, 2021 
Received. 
12.2 Applications Report dated February 8, 2022 
Received. 
12.3 Trustee and Local Expense Report dated December, 2021 
Regional Planning Manager Kauer noted that the bulk of the budget for the Hornby 
Healthy Watersheds Initiative was being used for the Freshwater Strategy Project. 
12.4 Adopted Policies and Standing Resolutions 
Received. 
12.5 Local Trust Committee Webpage 
None. 
13. WORK PROGRAM 
13.1 Top Priorities Report dated February 8, 2022 
Chair Fast noted that several items had been added to the Top Priorities Project today. 
13.2 Projects List Report dated February 8, 2022 
Received. 
14. CLOSED MEETING - none 
15. UPCOMING MEETINGS 
15.1 Next Regular Meeting Scheduled for Friday, May 6, 2022 - time and location to be 
determined 
Regional Planning Manager Kauer noted recent negative feedback from the public 
around electronic meetings held earlier than the usual time for in person meetings. 
Early enough notification of meeting times may mitigate the negative feedback. 
Chair Fast noted that the electronic meetings for Denman and Hornby Islands had been 
moved from 10:30 am to 10:00 am with no negative feedback. 
Trustee Scott requested that electronic Hornby LTC meetings go from 9:00 am to Noon. 

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16. ADJOURNMENT 
By general consent the meeting was adjourned at 1:25 pm. 
 
 
_________________________ 
Sue Ellen Fast, Chair 
 
Certified Correct: 
 
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Katherine Vogt, Recorder