South Pender Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, March 8, 2022

[0:00:33] Voice 7: Good morning, everybody. Welcome to the Executive Committee, Agenda 3, Trust Council of Warnsley,

[0:00:41] Voice 7: and my name is Peter Luckin. I'm elected on Thetis Island in the Lyotard and Penelope

[0:00:49] Voice 7: Territory, and it's an honor to be here in Nanaimo today. It's Nanaimo Territory,

[0:00:56] Voice 7: looking out across the harbor here to the islands of course the trust area and other associated

[0:01:05] Voice 7: islands a lot of rich history in this place this harbor i can only imagine but certainly i'm sure

[0:01:13] Voice 7: that there's stories and tales to be told and really glad to be here so i'm joined today uh by

[0:01:22] Voice 7: I have my executive committee, Laura Patrick from Salt Spring Island,

[0:01:25] Voice 7: Mark Moore, Dan Rogers from Canberra Keys,

[0:01:28] Voice 7: and Mr. Alan Bass from Bowen Island, Councillor of Tuskegee.

[0:01:33] Voice 7: And then on my right is our staff, our CEO, Russ Hudson-Pillard,

[0:01:37] Voice 7: our director of local planning services, David Mollett,

[0:01:40] Voice 7: and of course, Laurie Foster, our amazing executive support person.

[0:01:46] Voice 7: Thank you.

[0:01:47] Voice 7: We also have Claire Prater here today,

[0:01:52] Voice 7: members of the public that are joining us today. Thank you for joining us. We have an

[0:01:56] Voice 7: agenda in front of us here. And I'll just ask if there's any new items that need to

[0:02:03] Voice 7: be removed from the agenda at some time.

[0:02:07] Voice 4: I just wanted to point out that it is International Women's Day. Just as a reminder, we're calling

[0:02:14] Voice 4: out. I know I will be putting a note in the back of my computer shortly.

[0:02:18] Voice 4: know

[0:02:19] Voice 7: so thank you thank you very much for raising that i was aware of that there's a number of

[0:02:25] Voice 7: initiatives happening uh all across the country in the world i suppose and so um thank you for

[0:02:32] Voice 7: and um it's an important thing to stop a moment and recognize so i'm grateful for that

[0:02:43] Voice 7: um no other items to add to the agenda then then i will adopt it can

[0:02:47] Voice 4: we move item six

[0:02:48] Voice 4: above item 5 to reorder the agenda?

[0:02:51] Voice 7: Oh, I was going to just do that.

[0:02:53] Voice 4: Oh, okay. That's fine.

[0:02:54] Voice 4: All right.

[0:02:54] Voice 4: As long as everybody knows.

[0:02:55] Voice 7: Yeah.

[0:02:56] Voice 7: I'll mention

[0:02:56] Voice 7: that this time.

[0:02:57] Voice 7: So I'll adopt the agenda as presented.

[0:03:01] Voice 7: We are going to reorder the items on the agenda

[0:03:04] Voice 7: to facilitate one of our staff members

[0:03:06] Voice 7: who has an important meeting.

[0:03:09] Voice 7: And so I think we will advance

[0:03:14] Voice 7: the bill now in the municipality

[0:03:15] Voice 7: by us for consideration above item 5,

[0:03:17] Voice 7: and we will lead off in the director's and CA updates with the director's local financial

[0:03:23] Voice 7: system to get that but just quickly we'll just cover off those first items to try to keep it

[0:03:28] Voice 7: somewhat in sequence um the rising report on the previous uh in-camera meeting which was

[0:03:35] Voice 7: February 23rd um we uh received the minutes of the February 2nd in-camera meeting and there

[0:03:42] Voice 7: was nothing else to report uh from that uh that meeting so uh thank you for that adoption of

[0:03:48] Voice 7: the minutes now here for the uh february 23rd uh meeting of executive committee i'll just ask if

[0:03:55] Voice 7: there's any uh changes to those minutes so then we will by general consent adopt those minutes

[0:04:01] Voice 7: as presented we have a resolution without meeting report here for information about

[0:04:08] Voice 7: administrative decisions that were made without a meeting and ostensibly we have advanced uh three

[0:04:15] different uh bylaws from uh trust

[0:04:18] Voice 7: areas so just that summary of that so um i'm going to advance

[0:04:25] Voice 7: now to item 6.1 going on this pilot advantage file amendment number 562 and um i'm going to turn to

[0:04:34] Voice 7: to David Mahler to introduce this item.

[0:04:38] Voice 7: And I'll look forward to Joellen Faust

[0:04:41] Voice 7: as the trustee from that region to offer any advice.

[0:04:45] Voice 7: So

[0:04:46] Voice 3: we'll give it to Director Mahler, thank you.

[0:04:47] Voice 3: Yeah, thank you.

[0:04:48] Voice 3: So this is a land use bylaw amendment.

[0:04:51] Voice 3: So it is under the protocol agreement.

[0:04:54] Voice 3: So it's not for approval of the executive committee,

[0:04:57] Voice 3: but it is for comment.

[0:04:59] Voice 3: And generally that comment is whether or not

[0:05:01] Voice 3: it's consistent with or not with the Islands Trust policy statement. We have 45 days from when we receive it to respond back to the municipality, so we're within that time period.

[0:05:15] Voice 3: It's on page 25 of the agenda, and this is a pretty well site-specific zoning, 1676 Michael Creek Road, and it will allow for four lots to be created.

[0:05:29] A fifth lot would be a transportation municipality for a park, and the

[0:05:34] Voice 3: zoning change is really

[0:05:35] Voice 3: to allow accessory residential on that property.

[0:05:40] Voice 3: So those 40 lots could have accessory residential, but there's no increase in the permitted buildings

[0:05:47] Voice 3: on the property.

[0:05:48] Voice 3: So what I've done on page 26 is listed the policy statement directed policies that would

[0:05:57] Voice 3: would be applicable. And the staff of the Boyd Allen

[0:06:02] Voice 3: Municipality have addressed these and indicated that the

[0:06:05] GLEAD is consistent. I've had a look at it and from the

[0:06:09] information provided to me, it appears

[0:06:10] Voice 3: consistent as well. So

[0:06:12] Voice 3: the recommendation on page 25 is at the top there, which is to

[0:06:17] Voice 3: let the Boyd Allen Municipality know that the Executive

[0:06:20] Voice 3: Committee believes it's not contrary to our evidence for

[0:06:24] Voice 3: down trust policy statement

[0:06:26] Voice 7: okay thank you david uh counselor that's your little task trustee sure

[0:06:32] Voice 7: this

[0:06:33] Voice 4: is a this is a motion um that i actually visit a member of the bonan council and uh it was

[0:06:41] Voice 4: a part of a bigger um request uh these four lots will be on wells and so um that's where

[0:06:55] Voice 4: these this particular language bylaw amendment is 562. I know that in the text on our cover page,

[0:07:06] Voice 4: it says 530. So I think that should be 562. You can just check that one.

[0:07:14] Voice 4: She said, I'm just curious about, maybe I'll ask this question. In the recommendation that's in

[0:07:23] Voice 4: in front of us on the agenda page, it says that the executive

[0:07:27] Voice 4: committee is 530, cited as 562. I'm just curious about that.

[0:07:35] Voice 3: Oh, interesting. Yeah, no, it should be 562. That's right.

[0:07:39] Voice 3: Okay. Yeah, 562 is the bylaw number.

[0:07:45] Voice 4: Thank you. I just wanted to confirm that because I didn't

[0:07:47] Voice 4: know what it's

[0:07:48] Voice 4: a title.

[0:07:49] Voice 3: It's a title number

[0:07:50] Voice 4: 57.

[0:07:52] Voice 3: Yeah, so the short-term bylaw is bylaw number 562. Its full name is Boyd Adams Paltrow Landry's bylaw number 57-2002, amendment bylaw number 562-2022.

[0:08:07] Voice 3: Sorry, I

[0:08:08] Voice 4: wanted to check about this typo earlier, except

[0:08:10] Voice 4: it just caught my eye as I was speaking.

[0:08:12] Voice 3: My apologies, it is 562.

[0:08:14] Voice 3: Yeah. So

[0:08:16] Voice 4: that's a council and I'd be happy to make a motion that the executive committee

[0:08:23] Voice 4: advise hold on municipality that bylaw number 562 cited as hold on the municipality land

[0:08:29] Voice 4: use bylaw number 57 2002 amendment bylaw number 562 2022 is not contrary to or variance with

[0:08:38] Voice 4: be honest just for us to see okay

[0:08:40] Voice 7: so the second motion okay any discussion on the

[0:08:45] Voice 7: motion if you wish to speak to the motion further no that's fine anybody

[0:08:50] question so do i understand that each of the

[0:08:53] Voice 7: new or a lot will allow i just didn't know what

[0:08:56] Voice 7: accessory is it meaning so it's the second big dwelling but it's accessory to the main product

[0:09:02] so you need to have a main dwelling yeah and then you can also have put a little bit

[0:09:08] Voice 3: inside the inside the building or attached to it within the floor space of the main building

[0:09:13] Voice 7: so so

[0:09:14] Voice 7: the intent is to create a little bit more but actually not more square footage

[0:09:22] but

[0:09:23] Voice 7: allow for a second there could be

[0:09:25] Voice 7: a second there

[0:09:27] Voice 4: that's the intent and uh if i can just go on about the um maximum square footage we don't

[0:09:32] Voice 4: have rules like that but we do have walk coverage rules so it would still um increase all right okay

[0:09:40] Voice 7: but the

[0:09:48] Voice 4: point is that it's rental okay

[0:09:53] Voice 7: so um i'll just note that um

[0:09:58] Voice 7: i found it a little difficult to figure out what was happening on the broader lock because it's

[0:10:03] Voice 7: before areas and where that impact was and it's probably makes complete sense to you guys in bone

[0:10:10] Voice 7: council because you're right there but from an outsider trying to assess what the capacity is

[0:10:15] Voice 7: what the growth is is very different than just two more lots it's quite a dense property it was

[0:10:23] Voice 4: it was reasonable uh some time ago 10-15 years ago and uh at that time as this comprehensive zone

[0:10:30] Voice 4: loan. And the property owner brought the developer brought it

[0:10:37] Voice 4: back as with the idea that every unit water system, and there's a

[0:10:54] Voice 4: bunch of arrangements that need to be made before the security

[0:10:58] Voice 4: sure the water supply is confirmed.

[0:11:02] Voice 7: And there's no

[0:11:03] Voice 7: guarantee that this actually being affordable.

[0:11:08] Voice 7: There is residents that could be rented out of market value.

[0:11:11] Voice 4: Well, it has an affordable housing policy. And this just

[0:11:18] Voice 4: means rental.

[0:11:18] Voice 4: Okay,

[0:11:19] Voice 7: so all those in favor. So let's go back now to section

[0:11:30] Voice 7: of our agenda and the first item will be follow-up action reports from the Directing CEO and

[0:11:35] Voice 7: the CEO is allowing David

[0:11:37] Voice 3: Muller to go ahead today with the presentation.

[0:11:41] Voice 7: Thank you,

[0:11:43] Voice 3: it's very short. The follow-up action hasn't changed since the last meeting.

[0:11:47] Voice 3: The first two items will be coming back here at the next meeting which is the March meeting.

[0:11:54] Voice 3: And the third item is on today's agenda, that's the water response to promise.

[0:12:00] Voice 3: And beyond that, as far as the director's report, I don't have anything new to add since the last meeting, or that's not on the report which was passed this afternoon, so unless there's any questions, I'll leave it at that.

[0:12:12] Okay, thank you, David. Any questions for the director? No? Okay, well thank you for your

[0:12:17] Voice 7: report, or thank you for your follow-up questions. Do you have a director's report?

[0:12:22] Voice 7: I don't know

[0:12:23] Voice 7: what's coming. Yeah. So thank you very much. And we'll continue on. So

[0:12:31] Voice 7: CAO Hockensport, over to you for your follow-up. Good morning, Executive Committee. Thank you,

[0:12:36] Voice 7: Mr. Chair. Great to be with you live. Yeah, as you can imagine, we're working sort of

[0:12:42] Voice 7: the last week, two weeks on the three streams of importance of the Allens Trust. One is

[0:12:48] Voice 7: this event the trust council session itself um preparing um the budget and considerations

[0:12:54] Voice 7: associated with the budget and the policy statement project which is the engagement

[0:12:59] Voice 7: strategy is coming to bear it's now um for public consideration so those have been three large

[0:13:05] pieces of work um a couple things have happened just

[0:13:09] Voice 7: related to the fuel uh the ministry of course

[0:13:12] Voice 7: as a new minister right we have by making columns the new minister and um minister alford moves on

[0:13:19] Voice 7: to the ministry of land water and resource and uh with that change there's going to change there's

[0:13:27] Voice 7: probably going to be advancement but there's probably a period of considerable reconsideration

[0:13:32] Voice 7: reassessment reorganization we know that um flintroll is turning into the ministry of forests

[0:13:37] Voice 7: and, as I said, report on land, water, and resources.

[0:13:43] And I can't help but note the Minister Osborne's mandate

[0:13:47] Voice 7: that I expect, at least from the media releases,

[0:13:51] Voice 7: is gonna be around some of the things

[0:13:55] Voice 7: that we've been developing here at the trust quite a bit.

[0:13:58] Voice 7: And that is working with First Nations

[0:14:01] Voice 7: to co-manage lands and resources and fresh drinking water,

[0:14:04] Voice 7: the two things that are in our strategic planning process.

[0:14:06] Voice 7: so i think the reason that you know to the degree we can be we're prepared for whatever changes um

[0:14:12] Voice 7: seemingly will be coming with your organization about ministry and um just noting that ministry

[0:14:19] Voice 7: of forest wildfires is becoming more and more of a focus and that's being built into that ministry

[0:14:23] Voice 7: so we'll see how things go um our relationships there i think are reasonably good um we are now

[0:14:30] Voice 7: now we've drafted a letter to go to the new minister

[0:14:36] Voice 7: the staff there to get out of the chair and yourselves with the minister um yes so really

[0:14:45] Voice 7: that's it the other part is on the fuel um i did have some conversations a bit of progress around

[0:14:50] Voice 7: the matter of beyond trust and forestry um for the local trust area um we co-leaded the reports

[0:14:59] Voice 7: that came out of our sessions with Trust Council

[0:15:02] Voice 7: and provided them to ministry staff.

[0:15:04] Voice 7: And generally those have landed well

[0:15:07] Voice 7: as the beginnings of identifying trust interests,

[0:15:12] Voice 7: how broad they would be or how narrow they would be,

[0:15:15] Voice 7: how they would be potentially adopted or not.

[0:15:17] Voice 7: And that's gonna lend itself to some conversations.

[0:15:20] Voice 7: I've got a meeting just following Trust Council

[0:15:22] Voice 7: to begin to further that a little bit.

[0:15:25] I can't offer more than that.

[0:15:26] it's it's significant um request for consideration and

[0:15:32] Voice 7: it's slow moving and we have these mysterious

[0:15:35] Voice 7: changes but i do think that that was a positive step other than that i respond to any of your

[0:15:43] Voice 7: questions that's both fuel and what i report to you okay thank you anybody any questions

[0:15:47] Voice 7: um appreciating it has been extraordinarily busy time for current press capital and all

[0:15:56] Voice 7: things i wonder if the uh you and your senior staff have sort of given consideration to this

[0:16:01] Voice 7: recommendation regarding future global trust committees i sort of i'm getting the feeling

[0:16:07] Voice 7: that there's an expectation that the local trust committees will probably be going back to the

[0:16:12] Voice 7: the fall format where we're in person but broadcasting yes um i my next one's not till

[0:16:20] Voice 7: i think so that i don't have a balcony for the couple of weeks but i just came through rooms

[0:16:26] Voice 7: that were all zoom based and i sort of was saying i'm hoping this is the last of it i've been getting

[0:16:32] Voice 7: that some hope is one of our key words these days and um i completely sympathize uh with the dilemma

[0:16:40] that we're

[0:16:41] Voice 7: collectively in but you are in as vice chair says we have different ways to conduct these

[0:16:45] Voice 7: meetings um we're all i'd love to get to certainty here i think we're getting closer to what

[0:16:51] Voice 7: certainty is so um you know that we're going into immense detail there's a request for an fte to

[0:16:59] Voice 7: support the function of these fully zimmed meetings um however that's probably not the

[0:17:04] Voice 7: best use of time and resources there is a request to trust council to provide further administrative

[0:17:09] Voice 7: resources where we would see whether we could build the provision of more complex electronic

[0:17:15] Voice 7: meetings into the fabric of our into the organization as opposed to clear up we'll

[0:17:21] Voice 7: see where those conversations go but for now um we have um extra work and no extra people

[0:17:31] Voice 7: and so we'll revert them back only until june july because it's on your backs right you're

[0:17:38] Voice 7: carrying around this equipment to see whether how viable this is and we're going to report

[0:17:41] Voice 7: back to you and trust council to see which way you want to go so it's back to recorded posts

[0:17:47] Voice 7: if you have something really um substantial um get in touch and we'll see what kind of we can

[0:17:55] Voice 7: gather some resources around anomalies right so we want to make sure that we're serving you well

[0:18:02] Voice 7: but to be sustainable we have to go back to that previous process

[0:18:05] Voice 7: so i guess maybe i wasn't clear my question what is the directive to stop can you look

[0:18:12] Voice 7: like in person local trust community if the local trust there was a period where you said

[0:18:16] Voice 7: where they are going back they are going they're going okay okay i don't

[0:18:20] Voice 7: think not

[0:18:21] Voice 5: yeah

[0:18:22] Voice 7: so they're they're going back

[0:18:27] Voice 7: to about the staff the presumption is live meetings okay with a staff person maybe not

[0:18:35] Voice 7: the level of stuff that the word there was previously and if we get this technology

[0:18:39] Voice 7: working for us um that would save in a in a variety of ways by having staff entering

[0:18:44] Voice 7: meetings electronically but they're really happy yeah i mean we can't bring billions

[0:18:49] Voice 7: at every we got to every local trust committee more more in our service but we

[0:18:56] Voice 4: want to yeah

[0:18:56] Voice 4: this is so much

[0:18:58] Voice 7: more efficient thank you that's my question okay any other questions

[0:19:04] okay did you

[0:19:09] Voice 7: have further reporting no excellent thank you

[0:19:13] Voice 7: so i'm going to scroll down to director

[0:19:17] Voice 7: to administrative services i don't i'm not sure if she's online or not but she's not online

[0:19:23] Voice 7: well

[0:19:24] Voice 5: evidenced later on during trust council that's a certain

[0:19:33] thank the director

[0:19:40] Voice 7: so director of local planning services we've already addressed your list thank you

[0:19:45] Voice 7: Good morning, thank you for joining us.

[0:19:49] Voice 6: Good morning.

[0:19:50] Voice 6: Over to you.

[0:19:50] Voice 7: Thank

[0:19:51] Voice 6: you. Apologies to those on camera today. I'll just stay behind the camera.

[0:19:56] Voice 6: There's been no progress on any of the items on your fuel, because our main focus has been on the Islands 2050 launch and getting all those pieces in place,

[0:20:06] Voice 6: as well as the webinar that was successfully hosted, and we anticipate having a recording up soon,

[0:20:11] Voice 6: and we're working on answers to the questions that didn't get posed during the webinar itself those

[0:20:16] Voice 6: will also be posted to the island's 2050 page in addition we launched the stewardship award program

[0:20:22] Voice 6: for this year and look forward to receiving those nominations so i'm happy to take any questions

[0:20:29] Voice 7: any questions on director faders all professionals do you have anything to report

[0:20:37] Voice 6: No, simply it's all, it's all systems go to work towards launch 2050, getting all those pieces in place. We are currently supporting ISO with a video script, and we're hoping that the community discussion guide will be going to print very soon.

[0:20:52] Voice 6: And then we'll work towards distributing those on the islands at convenient pick up and drop off locations.

[0:21:01] Voice 6: What's a video script?

[0:21:02] Voice 6: So we're working on a script for a video that they're going to be producing.

[0:21:06] Voice 6: And then it'll be posted online?

[0:21:08] Voice 6: It'll be posted on the 2050 page as well, and then probably pushed out to your social media.

[0:21:12] Voice 6: Thank you.

[0:21:14] Voice 6: Yeah, this is difficult material to convey simply.

[0:21:20] Voice 7: Sorry, I'm just thinking, I know the answer, I believe, but we have the, I saw folk coming, is it Christy or Kirstie?

[0:21:29] Voice 4: Kirstie.

[0:21:29] Voice 4: Thursday

[0:21:30] Voice 7: coming Wednesday so trustees will have an opportunity to ask questions and give feedback

[0:21:37] Voice 7: there'll be enough time for that too in terms of what's going on with the engagement process right

[0:21:43] Voice 6: yes so she is speaking after lunch on Wednesday for writing a presentation about her mutual funds

[0:21:47] Voice 6: and then we'll be available for questions great I mean yeah I

[0:21:51] Voice 5: will hear it

[0:21:53] Voice 7: anybody else

[0:21:57] Voice 7: So I'll just remark in this meeting that I've actually had some very positive feedback from

[0:22:04] Voice 7: community members about the webinar, and that was very informative and helping them understand

[0:22:10] Voice 7: the items of trust and what we're doing.

[0:22:13] Voice 7: And then also just note that as it's now public that we've delayed that rollout of the on-island

[0:22:20] Voice 7: sessions by a week, and I think that's a really good move because indeed there's been concerns

[0:22:25] Voice 7: about that.

[0:22:26] Voice 6: so it's simply the only date that's been delayed is the

[0:22:28] Voice 6: virtual community workshop it's been above the board by me and that's the trust wide online

[0:22:34] Voice 6: sorry

[0:22:35] Voice 7: so that's a good move um because there were definitely some concerns about that so thank you

[0:22:40] Voice 7: sorry yeah and are you getting and maybe this is a question wait until tomorrow are you getting

[0:22:46] Voice 7: uh uptake on the on the work i would not call the focus group so

[0:22:51] Voice 6: those invitations are going

[0:22:52] Voice 6: out shortly they might have been set oh okay

[0:22:54] Voice 7: i thought i thought people themselves

[0:22:59] Voice 6: we've had um all the groups that have been known of it have let us know they're interested in

[0:23:03] Voice 6: receiving a registration form and hopefully today or tomorrow those registration forms will be out

[0:23:07] Voice 6: to those groups to indicate their interest okay

[0:23:10] Voice 7: and how will those groups so far themselves

[0:23:14] Voice 7: yeah

[0:23:15] Voice 6: so they'll be submitting registration forms and then isl will be determining the next steps

[0:23:22] Voice 7: Okay, so thank you, Dr. Craig, you and your team for all the amazing work that you're doing.

[0:23:29] Voice 7: Let us now continue on here to local trust committee chair updates. And I think I'll start

[0:23:36] Voice 7: on my last year with.

[0:23:39] Voice 4: Okay, thank you. I thought I would just take a minute of your time to let you

[0:23:45] Voice 4: know about the BC MCLC workshop that I was part of last week. This is the BC Municipal Climate

[0:23:54] Voice 4: Leadership Council and I'm one of the 12 steering committee members and I wanted to just mention

[0:24:01] Voice 4: because Minister Freeman was there and our Minister Cullen came in as well. So they introduced the new

[0:24:09] Voice 4: to climate related work that's getting underway

[0:24:15] Voice 4: and they're starting to collect feedback from groups.

[0:24:17] Voice 4: And this was an outreach to lower government.

[0:24:20] Voice 4: So I just wanted to mention,

[0:24:21] Voice 4: there's got land use as we've,

[0:24:24] Voice 4: they've revitalized the Green Communities Committee.

[0:24:27] Voice 4: And so they're gonna be land use related changes

[0:24:34] Voice 4: discussed as part of climate action for the province,

[0:24:38] Voice 4: climate preparedness and adaptation they're uh they're replacing the carrot funding um and that

[0:24:44] Voice 4: will probably be in april um more staff will be better for smaller communities

[0:24:52] Voice 4: um collaboration was the highlight i just wanted to mention um the carrot replacement will be like

[0:24:58] Voice 4: three times as much um and they're going to i asked a question about taking forests um

[0:25:08] Voice 4: protecting forests and how did that relate? And if you take forests out of zoning, then it might be possible for that to be counted towards climate action, either CARAT or other kinds of goals.

[0:25:24] Voice 4: Anyway, maybe not CARAT.

[0:25:27] Voice 4: You didn't say that.

[0:25:29] Voice 4: CARAT is the Climate Action...

[0:25:34] Voice 4: it was a it was a tool introduced a long time ago where communities pledged to take climate action

[0:25:40] Voice 4: and if you showed you submitted your receipts you could get your taxes back on those um particular

[0:25:47] Voice 4: costs for small communities that you usually didn't get as much back as you the time it took

[0:25:52] Voice 4: you to submit your claim

[0:25:55] Voice 7: we got a few thousand dollars we were members of the program we

[0:25:59] Voice 7: we fit into class B.

[0:26:00] Voice 7: The challenge was, is we don't have discrete means

[0:26:03] Voice 7: of measuring all of the variables

[0:26:04] Voice 7: that go into determining climate impacts

[0:26:07] Voice 7: as an individual entity.

[0:26:08] Voice 7: So we essentially got a numerical formula

[0:26:11] Voice 7: that would derive what our potential

[0:26:15] climate change impacts were

[0:26:18] and whether

[0:26:19] Voice 7: our zone discussions and OCP discussions,

[0:26:21] Voice 7: I know we're going into some detail now,

[0:26:26] Voice 7: those things would provide credit.

[0:26:27] Voice 7: So we got some modest couple thousand dollars through that program over time.

[0:26:33] Voice 7: It's

[0:26:34] Voice 4: not so much the funding side that I was interested in as the fact that they're actually addressing these things and changes are coming.

[0:26:40] Voice 4: So that's why I'm giving this brief report.

[0:26:42] Voice 4: The other thing I wanted to mention is that they made a point about the BC Watershed Security and Fund,

[0:26:50] Voice 4: which we've got later in the agenda with the draft letter.

[0:26:53] Voice 4: and uh there was a great term that came up ton hunters we should all be as in carbon dioxide

[0:27:00] Voice 4: hunting for tons of carbon to eliminate from uh being limited to the atmosphere so i just wanted

[0:27:08] Voice 4: to mention that and also um and it was a good uh bunch of local leadership um that was there

[0:27:14] Voice 4: including uh mayors and counselors from all around bc um next week i have uh balance trust

[0:27:21] Voice 4: conservancy and uh then on monday i have a bonus including a visit from claire he's coming to talk

[0:27:30] Voice 4: about uh in a committee of the whole about the trust policy statement with council and um that's

[0:27:38] Voice 4: it okay

[0:27:40] Voice 7: thank you very much for your input uh daniel can you take this off next to you

[0:27:44] sure thanks um

[0:27:46] Voice 7: so i've had a job since we last talked

[0:27:50] Voice 7: our last meeting i've had three uh local trust committees maine gabriel and gallagher

[0:28:01] Voice 7: out um maine was a uh with all the local issues and mostly about applications and um we took the

[0:28:14] Voice 7: horrible housing project on maine out of the bay and it's because the landowner had indicated they

[0:28:19] Voice 7: were ready to continue to try and move forward um there's also some progress being done there's

[0:28:26] Voice 7: small homes project i i call it small ones because that's the way it started but it's

[0:28:31] Voice 7: now really more of a distributed density it's more of a project trying to find ways we had

[0:28:37] Voice 7: quite a discussion we're trying to we identified in the area on the use of the pilot project that's

[0:28:44] Voice 7: the way that project is going so i'm going to guess about the map about 60 lots that we're

[0:28:51] Voice 7: sort of identifying and putting it out as a pilot project see how it works um so that was made

[0:28:58] Voice 7: uh gabriel was last week uh the main item on the agenda was um a interesting discussion around a

[0:29:07] Voice 7: powerful on on gabriela um and i think it's fair to say that we have a few gaps in our process

[0:29:20] Voice 7: because there was some uncertainty as to whether or not there had to be a public meeting around

[0:29:26] Voice 7: around this because of the way the protocol they've adopted.

[0:29:29] Voice 7: Gabriel, a local trustee,

[0:29:31] Voice 7: had adopted the antenna protocol.

[0:29:36] Voice 7: That was the model one that we adopted,

[0:29:38] Voice 7: not without controversy.

[0:29:39] Voice 7: Trustee Landeris had not been supportive of it.

[0:29:43] Voice 7: And they went through the whole process.

[0:29:45] Voice 7: So the first time the LNC saw it was on last week,

[0:29:49] Voice 7: and it was a recommendation for concurrence.

[0:29:52] Voice 7: And there have not been a follow-up meeting.

[0:29:55] Voice 7: There have, however, been consistent outreach to

[0:30:00] Voice 7: and the standard outreach related to advertising and mail etc and they have received fairly

[0:30:09] Voice 7: overwhelming support before it's in a fairly remote area of the island there was some there

[0:30:17] Voice 7: was some opposition related mostly to the technology piece as opposed to deciding

[0:30:23] Voice 7: It was the technology, which is theoretically not within our authority to comment on.

[0:30:32] Voice 7: After some discussion, we agreed to give concurrence subject to First Nations consultation.

[0:30:43] Voice 7: It's interesting because the piece of property is on a Crown land, their advice to us was

[0:30:52] Voice 7: as the promise would require them to do consultation anyway before they would do it but we made our

[0:30:57] Voice 7: motion current subject to uh confirmation of consultation appropriate consultation

[0:31:04] Voice 7: so that took quite a while to work our way through mostly because uh just say the record um

[0:31:11] Voice 7: it appears that while we adopted the protocol i don't think that we have within a process for

[0:31:17] Voice 7: processing like a standard operating process when this starts this follows and they're not supposed

[0:31:22] Voice 7: to be the meeting staff bring that to the ltc right and so um and given that these things are

[0:31:30] Voice 7: often um lighting the rods on the irons i use that term but they're all they often attract a lot of

[0:31:38] Voice 7: attention um probably would be good to have one of those because then the staff will know how to move

[0:31:44] Voice 7: it through and we also had the problem with turnover staff and they have somebody that's

[0:31:49] Voice 7: handling it in that flat or that type of setting um galiano was a uh a long and challenging meeting

[0:31:58] Voice 7: yesterday uh we made our way through um one of the uh we have all both of the three applications

[0:32:07] Voice 7: that are taking a lot of our time um one is uh crystal mountain we talked about it before

[0:32:17] Voice 7: We are probably no further along related to that than some considerations have been raised

[0:32:24] Voice 7: about how to move it along.

[0:32:27] Voice 7: There's now a water management plan for the property, but there seems to be substantial

[0:32:31] Voice 7: opposition in any regularization of that area.

[0:32:37] Voice 7: We have given the bylaws the reading, so we're working our way through staff reports.

[0:32:43] Voice 7: it's a it is a time-consuming process um both of the affordable housing projects were on our

[0:32:51] Voice 7: agenda yesterday um the one i would should you should be called galleon green and that's now

[0:32:58] Voice 7: called downline um which is right in the center is it moving very well uh it has

[0:33:05] Voice 7: substantial community support um we're getting very close to heading it to the cim public

[0:33:10] Voice 7: during on that so um i said you know never say things might not arise but we're getting

[0:33:16] Voice 7: getting closer they're on the stage of they've got an agreement around the affordable the housing

[0:33:21] Voice 7: agreement the um the other one continues to be a bit more problematic and they're continuing to

[0:33:31] Voice 7: talk about what the formal housing agreement looks like um and uh so we've sent that their latest

[0:33:38] Voice 7: proposal about the housing agreement and that's the lynch of that one is although there's a lot

[0:33:43] Voice 7: of issues related to it it's the housing agreement piece that's causing the delay now they haven't

[0:33:49] Voice 7: been able to agree on what the housing agreement should say so and

[0:33:52] Voice 9: they will be very clear that it

[0:33:55] Voice 9: has to have

[0:33:55] Voice 7: certain

[0:33:56] Voice 9: elements in the housing

[0:33:57] Voice 7: agreement and they want

[0:33:58] Voice 7: the applicants understandably

[0:34:02] we

[0:34:02] Voice 7: might want flexibility because how you know where they're going to get their funding is always

[0:34:09] Voice 7: in this year right you never you never know where to find them uh that's um that's we did the only

[0:34:17] Voice 7: other thing we did was we didn't have our uh freshwater our water sustainability presentation

[0:34:25] Voice 7: um it was sort of laid on the table we passed motions through the hospital

[0:34:28] Voice 7: draft bylaws and we didn't have the full presentation because we were running out of time

[0:34:32] Voice 7: we're going to do that in april um and the other thing we did is we referred the

[0:34:40] Voice 7: foreshore um uh bylaws from the regional planning committee the project to our abc

[0:34:47] Voice 7: for recommendations of uh how we could implement that so it was a busy meeting

[0:34:57] Voice 7: I'm guessing that that Crystal Mountain is close to 8 to 10 years old.

[0:35:01] Voice 7: Always probably 16. The first generation of it. It's probably been, it's been about three

[0:35:10] years since, four years since they shifted gears and now

[0:35:16] Voice 7: involved 75 percent of the donation of

[0:35:19] Voice 7: light of conservancy. And that's less than the opposition or

[0:35:27] Voice 7: may have lessened a little bit, but it's still pretty, it's

[0:35:30] Voice 7: still pretty significant. Okay, thank you.

[0:35:35] Over to you for the questions.

[0:35:38] Just to start with, I did have an interview with the Vital

[0:35:42] Science Foundation, the Vital Science Report. They're lasted

[0:35:48] did it in 2017, and they're in the process of

[0:35:50] Voice 4: doing it again, using the same parties

[0:35:54] Voice 4: to pull that together.

[0:35:56] Voice 4: She pointed to me, she said there's an extreme noticeable, you know, degradation and pessimism

[0:36:02] Voice 4: where people are feeling very pessimistic at the moment, and that's, you know, we see

[0:36:07] Voice 4: it, we feel it, but she's extremely noticing it as well, and she did the interview before.

[0:36:13] Voice 4: I did have South Pender Local Trust Committee on Friday. It was a bit of a, I mean, it was a, Steve Wright did not attend meetings. I had another meeting that was, needed his attention and didn't come.

[0:36:28] Voice 4: Yet it was a community information meeting on the land use bylaw project that they're doing.

[0:36:36] Voice 4: We had a considerable number of people that spoke during the, or asked questions for clarifications,

[0:36:47] Voice 4: and I was reluctant to move it along, but Trustee Dorn was quite persuasive in wanting

[0:36:58] Voice 4: to move the project and give it first reading.

[0:37:01] Voice 4: So the next community information meeting and public hearing will be attended in May.

[0:37:08] Voice 4: I anticipate it will be a robust meeting.

[0:37:13] Voice 4: And we'll see where things go because they are reducing the floor area fairly significantly,

[0:37:24] Voice 4: but protecting, adding a clause that protects the existing homes so that they're not legal non-conforming.

[0:37:30] Voice 4: they're legal. So that's just recognizing if you were to build beforehand, you rebuild to the size that you had. So it's the legal non-conforming was, it is a significant issue for the community of preventing those from happening. So I think that's the right way forward. I think Northender is going to take a very similar approach, at least will be consistent in how they deal with the legal non-conforming or preventing legal non-conforming.

[0:37:57] Voice 4: and that's uh really all right thank

[0:38:03] Voice 7: you very much from my area not a lot to report other than

[0:38:09] Voice 7: moving up to council here now but uh on thursday last week there was the uh regular monthly

[0:38:18] Voice 7: meeting with uh municipal affairs um and i participated in vancouver island region

[0:38:25] Voice 7: in the meeting of that and that was uh uh minister osborne's opportunity to say goodbye

[0:38:33] Voice 7: and introduce uh nathan collins our new minister and um i did make a point of introducing myself to

[0:38:40] Voice 7: the minister and inviting him to the alice area to come and at least see us or meet with us to

[0:38:46] Voice 7: talk about the alice trust and he was uh uh welcoming and so hopefully when he receives

[0:38:54] see our letter next week to connect

[0:38:56] Voice 7: the dots with him to make a VR. And so that was good.

[0:39:00] Voice 7: But the big topic there, Minister Bares was a guest on that meeting as well to talk about

[0:39:09] Voice 7: connectivity and the coastal strategy and the special regional district issues. And

[0:39:16] Voice 7: I expect there'll be an announcement this week, actually. They weren't prepared to tell

[0:39:20] Voice 7: those left but a big announcement this week i've got more money although there is 200 plus million

[0:39:26] Voice 7: dollars in the budget um this new budget cycle um going to communications and there's something

[0:39:32] Voice 7: else coming and certainly the intent and the indications are is that they want to fund all

[0:39:40] Voice 7: of the projects that have come forward to provide that kind of to the gulf island so that's very

[0:39:44] Voice 7: good news um some of the gulf islands denman particularly comes immediately to mind didn't

[0:39:49] Voice 7: managed to get some of the funding out of the last cycle um but certainly other islands are

[0:39:54] Voice 7: hopeful that that will come and the ship is sailing it's laying fiber as we speak it's

[0:40:02] Voice 7: been a you know i don't know how many years yeah 10 years 10 years um did that one yeah

[0:40:10] Voice 7: anyway um that was the only significant event um that i participated in and it was uh certainly

[0:40:17] Voice 7: have a good feeling from the way that the minister conducted himself uh providing opportunities for

[0:40:22] Voice 7: mayors and ministers and myself to speak and that's good sorry i i just thought of something

[0:40:30] Voice 7: from the january this is as much for the vice chair for anyone else's on friday um

[0:40:38] Voice 7: she's our chair on friday we found out about um it was sort of serendipitous

[0:40:48] Voice 7: as sort of put their hand up and said they'll pay the last 10 percent of the connectivity for

[0:40:54] Voice 7: keats and gambier and uh they have gas tax money so there's a month so there's been a huge email

[0:41:00] Voice 7: campaign yesterday supporting doing that because apparently there's the connective post that says

[0:41:05] Voice 7: they you have to find the 10 i don't know the details but anyway we started a campaign and

[0:41:10] Voice 7: the scrd says we think we can get you to the point where keats and gambier have

[0:41:15] Voice 7: have fire to the property line for anybody that's on the grid.

[0:41:20] Voice 7: Wow.

[0:41:21] Voice 7: So at no cost.

[0:41:23] Voice 7: It'll be up to the ISP and the property owner to get it from the property line to the house.

[0:41:30] Voice 7: So that's just picking up on what you're talking about.

[0:41:35] Voice 7: That is coming.

[0:41:37] Voice 7: So I'm confident they may, which is for that district letter, but I'm not keeping something similar.

[0:41:42] Voice 7: that's all coming cool last thing after all

[0:41:50] Voice 7: came out of nowhere yeah

[0:41:52] Voice 7: so i'm just um 5.3 now trust concerns in the age on that page um

[0:41:58] Voice 7: do you have anything to report outside of what we're seeing in council uh

[0:42:04] Voice 4: our meeting

[0:42:05] Voice 4: of the honest trust conservancy is next week and otherwise it's all in the trust council

[0:42:12] Voice 4: And you will

[0:42:13] Voice 4: have seen an email from Chair Stanford about the big request that we received

[0:42:21] Voice 4: recently.

[0:42:21] Voice 4: So we're starting to put out more news about our so much fundraising and

[0:42:31] Voice 8: fund development.

[0:42:34] Voice 7: Great.

[0:42:35] Voice 7: Okay.

[0:42:35] Voice 7: Okay. So this moves us to section seven of the agenda, which is our trust council meeting

[0:42:44] Voice 7: preparation. And just to give everybody a heads up, it occurs to me that we have some

[0:42:50] Voice 7: guests here joining us today. We don't often get guests. And so we'd like to insert, if

[0:42:55] Voice 7: those folks would like to address the executive committee, a town hall section on our agenda

[0:43:01] Voice 7: that they're reporting your business and we would offer them two minutes to uh

[0:43:04] Voice 7: each to speak with you need to address the executive committee or just here to listen

[0:43:10] Voice 6: um

[0:43:10] Voice 2: well finally well

[0:43:12] Voice 7: i'll give you that moment not now but in a moment i'll give you a chance

[0:43:16] Voice 7: to collect your thoughts thank you okay

[0:43:18] Voice 7: so let us is that okay with dc yeah so then let us go to

[0:43:23] Voice 7: trust council meeting preparation uh first item on their delegation request

[0:43:27] Voice 7: uh i'm sure that lori can aid me to speak to it but others mentioned that eric booth had requested

[0:43:34] Voice 7: to be a delegation early quite early on but he did not have his meeting context notes prepared

[0:43:41] Voice 7: which is our policy and we we granted him the courtesy of providing that to us late

[0:43:47] Voice 7: he has not as of friday and um my suggestion to lori was that to advise him that uh he could

[0:43:56] Voice 7: attend um town hall and get two minutes and i'm presuming that that was done and you have not

[0:44:00] Voice 7: heard anything back so um at this juncture prepared to move him from the delegation portion

[0:44:08] Voice 7: of the agenda and that that sounds like yeah

[0:44:12] Voice 4: that's our policies on that

[0:44:13] Voice 7: okay right and so

[0:44:14] Voice 7: then he can have an opportunity to speak in the town hall as anybody else because it is part of

[0:44:19] Voice 7: our policy as you know to have the opportunity to review the content not for the subject matter but

[0:44:27] Voice 7: to be sure that it's not discriminatory or offensive and we try to help them out there

[0:44:37] Voice 7: so lori would have anything else to offer that no it's in the context

[0:44:42] Voice 7: and everybody's satisfied so the next section then is 7.1.2 the great northern management

[0:44:56] Voice 7: that's in our agenda context notes as well um that's how that session will flow is there any

[0:45:03] Voice 7: ceo any remarks on that there's something very similar in the actual agenda so i don't see

[0:45:09] Voice 7: harman just developing they're just giving us a little more detail on how to play out

[0:45:12] Voice 7: should we circulate that to trustees i wouldn't i wouldn't okay more paper and thoughts to get

[0:45:19] Voice 7: when it's going to flow as it always is yeah and keep in mind there's four hours there i'm

[0:45:24] Voice 7: expecting this will the overview will take maybe half an hour i expect there's some questions

[0:45:30] Voice 7: and it's set up for the last session to either have the consultants there or not

[0:45:34] Voice 7: and i think that would be a field question whether or not they stay for five hours

[0:45:40] Voice 7: go around the table of trustees or not i don't know there hasn't been that level of discussion

[0:45:45] Voice 7: around it but presumably it's the three sort of three elements one exploit exploit explanatory

[0:45:55] Voice 7: part the q a and then uh trustees um considering how to move forward that's it thank you okay

[0:46:05] Voice 7: and um yeah so the challenge uh for us um council will be how to unfold that next section of uh

[0:46:14] Voice 7: comments question further after they've asked a question to the consultant is what is it the council wants to do with this document and so happy to hear anything from you outside this meeting probably about how we might manage that together so

[0:46:31] Voice 5: there we go is there anything else on that section no

[0:46:39] Voice 7: uh so this now moves us through the rest of the area um to exit uh this is an executive committee

[0:46:47] Voice 7: initiated uh item which is the association of bankroll and postal communities session which

[0:46:53] Voice 7: is coming up i think april 1st there may be some humor in that but uh it is april 1st

[0:46:59] Voice 7: and uh i think that roger she will ask a question about attendance um to that meeting normally one

[0:47:06] or more of us does attend no i anticipate that one or more of us will attend but we've

[0:47:11] Voice 7: also often had

[0:47:13] Voice 7: all of us yeah and at least in colorado and i think uh vice chair or a father was not in the

[0:47:21] Voice 7: country anyway but uh but at uncm i think we've all been so i just wondered what the expectation

[0:47:26] Voice 7: was um because it's back last year was easier because it was virtual it was it was like 75

[0:47:36] Voice 7: it was relatively inexpensive there was no cost to it i signed up and went i could pick and choose

[0:47:42] Voice 7: whatever i see and i saw most of it but this is will be an in-person and you know the cost will

[0:47:48] Voice 7: not be insubstantial um because it's in victoria travel deals hotel and the and the reason i like

[0:47:57] Voice 7: it is the early registration closes i think tomorrow or the next day oh thank you so um

[0:48:03] Voice 7: i think it was march 10th is bringing the bell that i could be wrong

[0:48:06] Voice 7: someone in somewhere i think it's one of the context of this meeting i expected you would

[0:48:14] Voice 7: go that i don't know what your intentions are anticipating to attend i expected advice here

[0:48:18] Voice 7: and uh i just wanted to have a quick discussion as to whether people thought it was important that

[0:48:27] Voice 7: that we have more representation there than not,

[0:48:30] Voice 7: because I don't need to go.

[0:48:32] Voice 7: It doesn't believe that there's a benefit to the trust

[0:48:35] Voice 7: in not spending $1,000 that it costs

[0:48:38] Voice 7: for me to go on happy mouth.

[0:48:41] Voice 7: Well, I'm certain you should be fiscally responsible,

[0:48:44] Voice 7: but let's just ask Patrick,

[0:48:46] Voice 7: what was your expectation there?

[0:48:49] Voice 4: I'm expecting quite a bit on housing.

[0:48:52] Voice 4: I think I could attend without, I don't need to stay over.

[0:48:56] work, I can

[0:48:56] Voice 4: go home. That's where I live. But I think there

[0:49:04] Voice 4: will be some really pertinent things to value this. To work

[0:49:11] Voice 4: with the other communities, in particular, the province.

[0:49:15] Voice 7: Okay. And then to Ellen, we were planning to attend that

[0:49:18] Voice 7: was an expectation that we would be picking up the tab for that

[0:49:24] uh that's a really good question we don't have a policy

[0:49:27] Voice 4: around uh expenses but what i usually do

[0:49:31] Voice 4: is uh one thing the trust pays for the next uh training type professional development thing

[0:49:39] Voice 4: bowen trade pays for so i can't remember where exactly i am however uh because it's avicc

[0:49:46] Voice 4: vancouver island and coastal communities um bowen is not a part of that oh bowen is part

[0:49:51] Voice 4: of the lower mainland association yeah but i would do that um partly because collaboration

[0:50:00] Voice 4: is such a big part of all the uh minister's letters and things like that as well as um

[0:50:06] Voice 4: uh what i'm hearing from the problems in terms of the best way forward and climate action and

[0:50:12] Voice 4: all those things so i would like to attend so maybe

[0:50:16] Voice 7: that the staff in terms of our budget within

[0:50:19] Voice 7: the executive committee obviously ubcm is coming up as well and so these are

[0:50:24] Voice 8: regular parts of

[0:50:25] Voice 8: business for

[0:50:25] Voice 7: an entity like this so okay um and you also have two resolutions we have two measures

[0:50:32] Voice 7: and this is how you get things in part of ubcm that

[0:50:39] Voice 7: and there is also the question of um the whole development application process and how that's

[0:50:47] Voice 7: going to land i know that there's some discussion or lack of between the province and ubcm um

[0:50:53] Voice 7: you know that's something you certainly want to stay close to so yes i i usually do attend it

[0:51:01] Voice 7: but i think claire i'm on the road um with the policy statement that we can so

[0:51:08] So

[0:51:08] Voice 7: we'll see if I can tap dance around that a little bit,

[0:51:11] Voice 7: but yeah.

[0:51:12] Voice 7: And then that will totally clear my context

[0:51:15] Voice 7: in the road show on 50.

[0:51:17] Voice 7: I know my presence is required in some places.

[0:51:20] Voice 7: So at the moment, I think we could consider then

[0:51:23] Voice 7: that a minimum myself and Joe and Patrick would attend.

[0:51:27] Voice 7: And if you're being drawn to attend,

[0:51:32] Voice 7: then what's your feelings at the science of it?

[0:51:35] Voice 7: My inclination would be that the three of you are there.

[0:51:40] Voice 7: I have a little, it is a little, you know,

[0:51:44] Voice 7: we wonder about our way that the CAO can't make it.

[0:51:47] Voice 7: That's an important component.

[0:51:49] Voice 7: There's a lot to stop right now, obviously, for those things.

[0:51:52] Voice 7: Opportunities, I know that I'm going to pull some reports from the three of you,

[0:51:57] Voice 7: and we will do all the right clinical things.

[0:52:00] Voice 7: And if you need me to step in at the last minute,

[0:52:03] Voice 7: it um i could do that but it just could slightly increase costs to it i think that difference is

[0:52:10] Voice 7: so at this time we don't need a motion to do this um or do we need a motion to uh so we do need a

[0:52:27] Voice 7: motion for the three of us to attend so can i get a motion to that right yeah

[0:52:31] Voice 4: so i would like to move

[0:52:32] Voice 4: that executive committee approve the registration of Trustee Patrick, myself, and the chair

[0:52:43] Voice 4: to ABICC conference and that Lori register us. Thank you.

[0:52:51] Okay. I can look at it and share it

[0:52:53] Voice 7: with myself, Mayor, as you see fit.

[0:52:57] Voice 5: So,

[0:52:59] Voice 7: a seconder? Well, the last few times we've registered ourselves.

[0:53:03] Voice 7: up. Yeah.

[0:53:05] Voice 4: Okay. All right. I start the last part of that.

[0:53:09] Voice 4: And so that's

[0:53:10] Voice 7: right. You got that

[0:53:11] Voice 7: right? Yes. So move that

[0:53:13] Voice 7: segment. Yeah. Just be a driver. Thank you. Any discussion? All

[0:53:19] those in favor? Okay. Thank you very much for supporting that.

[0:53:22] Voice 7: It is very important. I think that social communities is our

[0:53:27] Voice 7: family. And we have so many common leadership initiatives

[0:53:33] Voice 7: is coming out of that group and then we can report in there that i'll be very good thank you

[0:53:40] Voice 7: um i'm going to move along now to local planning services feedback melons trust on the watershed

[0:53:47] Voice 7: security strategy and fund everything um do you want to speak to

[0:53:54] Voice 3: that uh yeah sure so this is on

[0:53:59] Voice 3: On page 45 of the agenda package, there is a briefing note here from the Freshwater Specialist

[0:54:09] Voice 3: just outlining what the request is, essentially a response, feedback to a discussion paper

[0:54:19] Voice 3: that was put out in January by the Ministry of Environment and Climate Change Strategy.

[0:54:23] Voice 3: And you'll see on page 45 it just outlines the intents of it, and there's also a link

[0:54:31] Voice 3: to the engagement website there if you'd like to go look at that.

[0:54:35] Voice 3: So anyway, what we're looking for is approval for the chair to send a letter back.

[0:54:43] Voice 3: There's a letter attached to this briefing panel.

[0:54:47] Voice 3: It starts on page 47.

[0:54:49] Voice 3: So this essentially is a response by saying that it's the second sentence there, really

[0:54:58] Voice 3: asking the province that we'd like to have early collaboration with Trust Council and

[0:55:04] Voice 3: Islands Trust staff in developing a strategy to facilitate harmonization with the Islands

[0:55:09] Voice 3: Trust Freshwater Sustainability Strategy.

[0:55:12] Voice 3: So tying that back.

[0:55:14] Voice 3: The rest of this focuses a little bit more on the question they had in the draft which was

[0:55:20] Voice 3: provide feedback about what it is that you are doing and how can you support this strategy.

[0:55:26] Voice 3: So this is a draft that staff put together and there is room in here if you'd like to make some

[0:55:33] Voice 3: edits or make some suggestions or changes or there's something here that we haven't said

[0:55:38] Voice 3: you would like to have said um you could make those changes uh otherwise a resolution to just

[0:55:46] Voice 3: approve this and ask the chair to sign it and we will of course go through and just make a few more

[0:55:52] Voice 3: uh corrections for clarity and um grammar so we just kind of want to get us onto this agenda so

[0:56:00] Voice 3: we can meet the deadline okay thank you um it

[0:56:03] Voice 7: reads very well from my perspective um

[0:56:05] Voice 7: uh thank you

[0:56:09] Voice 4: i'm i'm uh in favor of this and i'd be happy to move it in a minute um

[0:56:13] Voice 4: i as i mentioned i heard about it through this uh climate leadership um workshop

[0:56:21] Voice 4: uh from the ministers and from the senior staff that were there and uh i think it really fits

[0:56:27] Voice 4: as well would be um stewardship in their name and josie uh was our previous minister and knows us

[0:56:37] Voice 4: is now the minister of that anyway it's finished with our mandate and many of the goals that are

[0:56:43] Voice 4: outlined in the uh the outcomes of the report here i would suggest to top of page 48 um after the

[0:56:51] Voice 4: words security strategy and fund this is very first line can you say discussion paper um because

[0:56:59] Voice 4: it talks about case study of the story of the watershed security strategy and fund is the

[0:57:06] Voice 4: trust i think the words just question paper probably need to be in there but i'll just leave

[0:57:11] Voice 4: that to you you said you were going to put some final touches on that yeah otherwise thank you

[0:57:20] Voice 4: David, I did

[0:57:21] Voice 4: reach out to David in the last couple of days, last day, I do have a couple

[0:57:29] Voice 4: of changes.

[0:57:31] Voice 4: I think the strategy paper is extremely well in the direction that they're going.

[0:57:36] Voice 4: There's

[0:57:37] Voice 9: one of the

[0:57:38] Voice 4: outcomes, there's three changes I've been looking to make.

[0:57:41] Voice 4: In the beginning of the paper here, we say generally that we're in general support of all of the outcomes, which I agree, but there's one outcome, which is outcome five.

[0:57:52] Voice 4: It says that they integrate water more efficiently and effectively into land use planning.

[0:57:58] Voice 4: I suggest that we promote that they also do it equitably.

[0:58:02] Voice 4: And because I think that's something we have to pay close attention to as water is getting more and more challenging, that we have to do everything we can.

[0:58:14] Voice 4: And we need the tools that allow us to make sure it's used equitably.

[0:58:18] Voice 4: So I have some wording that Lori has as

[0:58:21] Voice 4: well in a minute that I can read.

[0:58:23] Voice 4: The second item, it's fairly minor, but on page two, the second paragraph there, it just says, I'm just going to be asking that the number of islands in an effort to make more informed land uses, just to change that to say in an effort to inform land use decisions.

[0:58:43] Voice 4: I know that sounds like a minor difference, but it's important because it's about how we make our decisions, not that we make the decision.

[0:58:52] Voice 4: Anyway, I'm one of them.

[0:58:54] Voice 4: Yeah, that's

[0:58:55] Voice 4: just a very subtle thing.

[0:58:57] Voice 4: And then the final one was just to change the bottom of that same paragraph.

[0:59:03] Voice 4: Yes, it is a bit of a tooting our horn, but I think what's more important is that we end

[0:59:10] Voice 4: with really asking that they work in cooperation with us to develop the tools.

[0:59:17] Voice 4: Because I think that's really the big push.

[0:59:24] Voice 4: And I have a motion that's been around.

[0:59:27] Voice 3: yeah i didn't i just emailed the executive um a copy of this lesson with those edits highlighted

[0:59:33] Voice 3: so if you want to see it it might be easier then probably have a screen that's fine

[0:59:43] Voice 4: i'm happy to make a motion i can like i have a written motion here on the data

[0:59:47] Voice 7: once that

[0:59:48] Voice 4: are necessary if you want me to proceed with that motion i can sure i'm

[0:59:52] Voice 7: sure if you have

[0:59:54] Voice 7: I think we're just going to say probably as amended because you're going to make some

[1:00:00] Voice 7: the non-substandard change grammatical and if

[1:00:03] Voice 7: the life's kids want to have it read out we couldn't

[1:00:07] Voice 7: but otherwise i would suggest we approve it doesn't matter that's easier

[1:00:10] Voice 1: that was enough

[1:00:21] Voice 4: i'm sorry

[1:00:22] Voice 7: oh you

[1:00:23] Voice 4: want me to make a motion definitely

[1:00:24] Voice 7: you want i think the as amended

[1:00:29] Voice 7: So

[1:00:30] Voice 4: I move that executive committee approves the draft letter as amended and prepare it

[1:00:40] Voice 4: for the signature of the chair.

[1:00:44] Voice 9: Okay, thank you.

[1:00:45] Voice 9: Move.

[1:00:47] Voice 9: Seconded.

[1:00:48] Voice 7: Any further discussion?

[1:00:51] Voice 7: All those in favor?

[1:00:52] Voice 7: That carries.

[1:00:53] Voice 7: Awesome.

[1:00:54] Voice 7: I got distracted.

[1:00:55] Voice 7: Sorry.

[1:00:56] Voice 7: Sorry, that's our creditors spent in copies of newsreels, $830 million to connect every community.

[1:01:04] Voice 7: Wow.

[1:01:05] Voice 7: Okay.

[1:01:07] Voice 7: Congratulations.

[1:01:07] Voice 4: So you're going to work on that?

[1:01:09] Voice 4: I

[1:01:09] Voice 7: think they're focused on it.

[1:01:10] Voice 4: Huh?

[1:01:11] Voice 4: I

[1:01:11] Voice 7: think they're focused on it.

[1:01:13] Voice 7: Yeah.

[1:01:14] Voice 7: Well, it's interesting.

[1:01:16] Voice 7: People say there's no money in the government.

[1:01:21] Voice 7: That's great.

[1:01:23] Voice 7: All right, then.

[1:01:24] Voice 7: So thank you for that.

[1:01:25] Voice 7: Um, anything else on the plan?

[1:01:28] Voice 7: No, that's it.

[1:01:29] Voice 7: Okay. There is some correspondence

[1:01:31] Voice 7: that we're going to get through in a minute

[1:01:33] Voice 7: that's kind of doing things with a little water.

[1:01:36] Voice 7: Okay. Um, but,

[1:01:38] Voice 7: um, that's great. So then,

[1:01:40] Voice 7: um, that concludes that section.

[1:01:41] Voice 7: The next section would be in business at

[1:01:43] Voice 7: section nine, but I would like to offer the opportunity

[1:01:45] Voice 7: for our two guests here to speak

[1:01:48] Voice 7: to Dr. Kimmins if they wish, and

[1:01:49] Voice 7: our normal practice is to offer two minutes.

[1:01:52] Voice 7: And, uh, if you wish to speak

[1:01:53] Voice 7: Victor, you could probably stand there and speak.

[1:01:57] Voice 7: I think the microphone will pick you up.

[1:01:59] Voice 7: Just tell us your name and where you're from, if

[1:02:01] Voice 2: you don't mind.

[1:02:01] Voice 2: Just so you can speak, I am from Gabriel.

[1:02:08] Voice 7: I really didn't recognize you.

[1:02:11] Voice 2: I thought

[1:02:11] Voice 7: you were from Satura.

[1:02:15] Voice 7: I'm sorry.

[1:02:15] Voice 2: Okay, I received a letter from Lori saying that my submission as a delegation was relegated to correspondence, and fine, but it is not in the correspondence to counsel on the agenda.

[1:02:31] Voice 2: Oh,

[1:02:32] Voice 7: that's interesting. Did we not suggest, however, that she would come to town hall, or just be courteous?

[1:02:40] Voice 2: both the opportunity to go to town hall. Yes, I did. Right. And

[1:02:44] Voice 2: if that

[1:02:45] Voice 7: doesn't say the

[1:02:46] Voice 2: price for this.

[1:02:47] Voice 2: Yeah,

[1:02:48] Voice 7: thank you for that. And that's good to raise that. And

[1:02:52] Voice 7: so, Laurie, I presume we have that letter. Yes. And so I

[1:02:55] Voice 7: presume that we could forward that to council if we choose to

[1:02:58] Voice 7: forward these other items.

[1:03:00] Voice 7: Yes.

[1:03:02] Voice 7: So thank you for raising that.

[1:03:04] Voice 7: Yeah,

[1:03:04] Voice 6: I was just wanting to extend what you were saying

[1:03:10] Voice 6: more. Sorry. Of course, the problem makers. Just kidding. Anyway, we were watching a webinar

[1:03:22] Voice 6: and with Shobha recently. And he was in this webinar, it was quite clear that aquifer capacity

[1:03:31] Voice 6: minus usage equals availability, water availability, freshwater availability,

[1:03:37] Voice 6: which we're doing this in 4.4.2 and 4.4.3.

[1:03:41] Voice 6: And I was just wondering if this letter that we're writing to the ministry,

[1:03:48] Voice 6: if we could add that availability should be included or integrated into all land use case decisions.

[1:03:58] Voice 6: Because I think that's really important.

[1:04:00] Voice 6: We have one alphabet there.

[1:04:03] Voice 6: Actually, we have two.

[1:04:04] Voice 6: The first one is the biggest one, and it feeds like 300 wells, schools, clinics, malls, dentists, you name it.

[1:04:18] Voice 6: What is the availability on this?

[1:04:20] Voice 6: And I've tried to get answers.

[1:04:22] Voice 6: I've written to William Shoba, and I haven't gotten answers.

[1:04:24] Voice 6: So I guess another question would be, can he write back to me and sort of give me this answer on what our available fresh water is in our aquifer?

[1:04:35] Voice 6: Because I think that's a really important thing to increasing density or increasing more and more utilization of the fresh water.

[1:04:43] Voice 7: Okay, so we're going to send you to Director Mahler. Do you understand the question and could you reframe that?

[1:04:51] Voice 7: Well, the light of it is this is

[1:04:55] Voice 3: the one in response to this provincial strategy I assume.

[1:04:59] Voice 3: We do say that we're looking to work with the province to develop land use tools that

[1:05:05] Voice 3: ensure equitable human use of water resources, so it's a very high level and I think what

[1:05:12] Voice 3: it suggests more down at the lower level of the details so you know we do get to the table we

[1:05:18] Voice 3: do have those discussions in some way that's where that would come up so i'm not sure this

[1:05:22] Voice 3: needs to be changed but i'll leave it exactly right okay and we're a

[1:05:26] Voice 4: project water expert

[1:05:31] Voice 4: i'm a geologist married to a hydrogeologist so i spend a lot of time on this um there's no one can

[1:05:40] Voice 4: give you an answer and say this is how much water is in the aquifer because it's it's theoretically

[1:05:45] Voice 4: you know we're looking down we have to be scientists that have to assume how it works and

[1:05:51] Voice 4: i think the key thing is making sure our tools are correct so that we make we're making good

[1:05:55] Voice 4: decisions and that we're informed in the way that we need to be informed to make a good decision

[1:05:59] Voice 4: and i think that's the how i read the letter is that we need we're asking to work closely with

[1:06:05] Voice 4: province recognizing island you know rock aquifers are very challenging and um and we need to work

[1:06:14] Voice 4: with the province because and that's so i have that's how i see it is so you know i think the

[1:06:19] Voice 4: litter is appropriate saying we need to work on those tools it

[1:06:23] Voice 6: should not be very awesome

[1:06:24] Voice 6: a moratorium be placed like on gabriel which is at the tipping point of environmental health

[1:06:32] Voice 6: and the water is as far as local knowledge is concerned we have a lot more knowledge than

[1:06:39] Voice 6: what we're being credited for unfortunately the pr is given the all the strength to make the

[1:06:47] Voice 6: decisions and it's not accurate the data is outdated there are so many things wrong with pr

[1:06:52] Voice 6: and i'm sure you've read the report about pr and we're making land use decisions on this and we

[1:06:58] Voice 6: We shouldn't be.

[1:06:59] Voice 7: Sorry, I just, it's just a lot coming out

[1:07:03] Voice 6: of me right now.

[1:07:04] Voice 7: The town hall is not really well suited.

[1:07:07] Voice 6: Okay, so I'm sorry, I have to back down a little bit.

[1:07:10] Voice 7: Can I

[1:07:11] Voice 6: contact you with this, Jeff? Is that a possibility so I can get more answers?

[1:07:16] Voice 7: Well, I would suggest you write to us and the letter, we can direct it forward to...

[1:07:21] Voice 9: Sure, we can call you back.

[1:07:23] Voice 7: Yeah, no,

[1:07:23] Voice 9: that's not a problem.

[1:07:24] Voice 7: problem um yeah that's fine so

[1:07:27] Voice 7: yeah now read the rest of the letters on this agenda yeah i would

[1:07:30] Voice 7: recommend that there's a variety of viewpoints um associated with that your question has struck to

[1:07:35] Voice 7: the core of why the analyst trust is undertaking some of this work to get a more specific

[1:07:41] i'm not understanding all the um

[1:07:43] Voice 7: amazing work that the province does um is it specific enough

[1:07:48] Voice 7: to assist us in making a land use decision and that's what we're trying to get to so your

[1:07:53] Voice 7: Your question is driving the work that we're trying to get to.

[1:07:58] Voice 7: And in every location, we don't have that.

[1:07:59] Voice 7: We're doing water budgets, and we're trying to link better land use decisions

[1:08:03] Voice 7: and the water resources at Stans.

[1:08:05] Voice 7: You're just ahead.

[1:08:07] Voice 7: Your question is just ahead of where we can leverage that,

[1:08:11] Voice 7: and that's the intention of this work.

[1:08:13] Voice 7: And you're also hearing that the province is doing that work too.

[1:08:17] So, yeah, it's becoming more and more...

[1:08:20] Voice 7: That's the goal.

[1:08:21] Voice 4: Cool.

[1:08:22] Voice 4: Okay, great.

[1:08:25] Voice 4: This is a question for Sam. I believe this is part of our strategic plan too, isn't it, Trust Council, that the next,

[1:08:32] Voice 9: this

[1:08:33] Voice 4: coming in the budget, is the next phase of the water sustainability work.

[1:08:39] Voice 7: Yes, but it's focused on how sound.

[1:08:41] Voice 7: Yeah, that's phase three. I think they've already done the, at least the data collection on Gabrielola. So we haven't, the mapping hasn't occurred yet.

[1:08:50] Voice 3: Yeah,

[1:08:51] Voice 7: phase two is Gabrielola and Thetis, sorry, Denman and Baby Thetis, and Hornby, and then now phase three is, I call them, probably not what they're named.

[1:09:04] Voice 7: yeah i think it was skinny and that's how it sounds yeah i

[1:09:08] Voice 4: knew it was how sound i just assumed

[1:09:10] Voice 4: okay thank you that just helps me put it i think

[1:09:13] Voice 6: sewer should be in there too because we have a

[1:09:15] Voice 6: big problem with sewer flow and that's going right down into the sea and the ocean and

[1:09:21] Voice 6: everything else because of acidification and then we've talked about this you know that

[1:09:27] Voice 6: but that somehow has to be shown on a map.

[1:09:34] Voice 6: I'm

[1:09:36] Voice 7: sorry, I missed that.

[1:09:38] Voice 5: So sewage.

[1:09:41] Voice 7: There's a whole mapping system called drastic.

[1:09:44] Voice 7: Yeah.

[1:09:47] Voice 6: And ours is drastic because it's federal,

[1:09:50] Voice 6: and it goes as far as the water is drawn.

[1:09:55] Voice 7: Yeah.

[1:09:55] Voice 7: Although William loved it.

[1:09:57] Voice 7: Oh, yeah.

[1:09:58] Voice 7: Yeah, it's a complex topic, and I think that you can see in the tone of the letter

[1:10:06] Voice 7: that what's critical is water for all of the necessities above and beyond human use.

[1:10:13] Voice 7: Absolutely.

[1:10:15] Voice 7: We're all in the same boat.

[1:10:19] Voice 7: Lori.

[1:10:19] Voice 1: Thank you, Chair.

[1:10:21] Voice 1: Ms. Estica, we're just looking over the Trust Council agenda,

[1:10:25] Voice 1: and your item is actually there at 17.2, I believe.

[1:10:28] Voice 3: one

[1:10:28] Voice 1: so it wasn't on the executive but it is on trust council yes that's that

[1:10:33] Voice 1: was the path it

[1:10:33] Voice 1: was meant to tell you yes it's at 75.

[1:10:36] Voice 3: oh that's the position of the difference okay perfect thank

[1:10:40] Voice 2: you laurie thank you

[1:10:41] Voice 2: yes

[1:10:44] Voice 7: so let us move on um we're running out of time here um uh so this

[1:10:50] Voice 7: moves us through to 9.2.1 local advocacy topics anything from vice chairs on local advocacy well

[1:10:57] Voice 4: heard a little bit before yeah there's keeps going after me yeah

[1:11:00] Voice 7: okay an 830 million dollars

[1:11:05] Voice 7: all right so this brings us to correspondence uh that we've received since our last meeting

[1:11:13] Voice 7: some which may you may wish to just forward to uh council maybe instructions in there

[1:11:20] Voice 7: and the answer i'm going to ask by chairs um what you would like to do with uh these i may be able

[1:11:29] Voice 7: to start with this because there's quite a mixture here 10.1 is from patent trust

[1:11:33] Voice 7: fresh water sustainability strategy what would you like to do with that well this chair i went

[1:11:38] Voice 7: through all of those and i identified that all the three are clearly have already gone to all trustees

[1:11:46] Voice 7: have already gone well they're the trustees are in the in this in the two section the

[1:11:53] Voice 7: only three that it's not absolutely clear they are amounted trustees are point one point

[1:11:58] Voice 7: two uh from ms wellman um and if they have uh 10 1.8 from mr egg for and the 20 dollars

[1:12:09] Voice 7: that's not clear that those have gone to trustee which was the last one 21.10 i mean it may have

[1:12:18] Voice 7: but it's not we don't know so i would move that we forward 0.1.2.1.8 and 0.1.10 to

[1:12:29] can forward it with the trustee.

[1:12:31] And I think you indicated 10.11 as well.

[1:12:35] No, I did not.

[1:12:36] Those all have trustees clearly identified as having received it.

[1:12:41] Super.

[1:12:42] Well, thank you for that work.

[1:12:44] I didn't actually review the two lists.

[1:12:46] I'm not a trustee in the first one, so.

[1:12:49] Voice 7: He may have, but it's not obvious for me.

[1:12:51] Voice 7: No, he's got two in there.

[1:12:54] Voice 7: I may have missed one.

[1:12:56] Voice 7: I may be wrong.

[1:12:56] Voice 7: Sorry.

[1:12:57] Voice 7: If you think 10.1 is already gone.

[1:12:59] Voice 7: 1.8.

[1:13:01] Voice 4: No, it's okay.

[1:13:02] Voice 4: Because he

[1:13:03] Voice 7: actually says, could you please forward this to trustees?

[1:13:06] Voice 4: Certainly so.

[1:13:09] Voice 7: So those are the items of those three before trustees.

[1:13:12] Voice 7: Okay, so the motion is then that item is 10.11, 10.12.

[1:13:17] Voice 4: No,

[1:13:18] Voice 7: no, no, 10.12.

[1:13:19] Voice 7: 10.12, 10.18, 10.110 before the council.

[1:13:30] Voice 7: Yes, I am.

[1:13:31] Voice 4: I also, yes. Okay, go ahead. I'm wondering if 1.10, the 20 law letter can also

[1:13:43] Voice 4: be forwarded to Trust Programs Committee. Okay, thank you.

[1:13:54] Voice 7: That carries, and I also like to move that 1.1.

[1:13:57] Voice 7: 10 forwarded trust programs. That's telling the last letter.

[1:14:02] Voice 7: This is very thoughtful and serious, and and I think it's worth considering.

[1:14:07] Voice 7: And was that also sent already sent to the 2050?

[1:14:15] Voice 7: I think

[1:14:17] Voice 4: it does, and here's why, because what Tony is suggesting is a structural suggestion

[1:14:24] Voice 4: to sever the trust policy statement into a general statement, a smaller, shorter, easy

[1:14:34] Voice 4: to understand part and a companion um piece and i uh i thought that was worth consideration at a

[1:14:43] Voice 4: committee level um it's not necessarily substantial but it's the structure and uh i

[1:14:50] Voice 4: thought it might be worth sending to the trustful programs but

[1:14:54] Voice 7: trust policy committee will receive

[1:14:57] Voice 7: it through the 2050 submission is that not correct um

[1:15:01] Voice 5: it simply gets posted to the website for all

[1:15:05] Voice 5: trustees to review if you want to explicitly consider it by the committee yeah second so move

[1:15:12] Voice 7: that uh 10.1.10 before policy committee program

[1:15:17] Voice 5: programs committee

[1:15:23] Voice 7: so anything else on that first section of um performance no so there's a second section here

[1:15:34] Voice 7: 10.2 with six items on it um is there any direction for that correspondence

[1:15:40] i didn't go through those as well and um i

[1:15:46] Voice 7: think that the first three should go to trust council

[1:15:48] Voice 7: as well okay um so i would move that 10 point sorry point two point one point two point two

[1:15:55] Voice 7: and two point three three forward to uh trust okay you moved to have seconded or patrick thank you

[1:16:02] Voice 7: any discussion no all those in favor they're also okay thank you and i and i would move

[1:16:08] Voice 7: i'd suggest we just receive 2.4 and 2.5 um they don't need to present trust counsel in my view

[1:16:20] Voice 7: and uh received 2.10.2.4 by 10.2.5 by general consent which was received

[1:16:27] Voice 7: and then i took 10.2.6 i think should be formally sent to local trust committees

[1:16:36] Voice 7: um so that they can get it on their agenda so that you represent members of their community

[1:16:42] Voice 7: can see that for funds related to the electoral balance that's the best way from my point of view

[1:16:48] Voice 7: do to make it public. That's good. So then I'll take it in by

[1:16:55] Voice 7: general consent again at 10.2.6. Recorded to all local

[1:16:59] Voice 7: trust committees and go around.

[1:17:03] Voice 7: They're all

[1:17:04] Voice 7: remaining.

[1:17:06] Voice 7: Okay, the work program 11.1 review and amendments program

[1:17:14] Voice 7: that's reviewed before we get here. I'll turn to the Sierra

[1:17:16] Voice 7: or anything else to offer.

[1:17:17] Voice 7: No.

[1:17:17] Voice 7: Is that a lot?

[1:17:18] Voice 7: Yes.

[1:17:19] Voice 7: Take some stuff off it.

[1:17:20] Voice 7: Awesome.

[1:17:21] Voice 7: Our next meeting will be March the 23rd.

[1:17:28] Voice 7: Electronically, it says right there.

[1:17:30] Voice 7: Just wanted to confirm that.

[1:17:31] Voice 7: That's good.

[1:17:33] Voice 7: And so that's it for now.

[1:17:36] Voice 7: And the closed session.

[1:17:37] Voice 7: I don't believe we have one.

[1:17:38] Voice 7: So usually when we have a follow-up meeting, the polls are closed after Trust Council makes one of reconsideration.

[1:17:44] and it tends to mean not have one reporting just keeping in touch and it's reflections

[1:17:51] on trust council in any direction from you as to okay prioritize these things in response

[1:17:56] all

[1:17:57] Voice 7: right so then i'll ask for the meeting

[1:18:07] Voice 7: okay okay thank you everybody

[1:18:13] Voice 7: All right, so we're just

[1:18:16] Voice 9: let me stop.