Islands Trust Council regular meeting, June 16, 2022

[0:00:00] Good

[0:00:11] Voice 3: afternoon. All right, are we

[0:00:25] Voice 4: ready to start the

[0:00:25] Trustee Patrick: meeting? Yes. All right, well, good afternoon, everyone. You probably noticed I am not Dan Rogers.

[0:00:31] Trustee Patrick: hundreds. I'm Laura Patrick. I am filling in for Dan this evening. He's got some family matters

[0:00:40] Trustee Patrick: he's paying attention to today, which I'm more than happy to fill in for him. I have spoken with

[0:00:46] Trustee Patrick: him. He's briefed me and hopefully I don't let him down on sharing today. I always begin with

[0:00:54] Trustee Patrick: acknowledging how fortunate we are to be able to gather on the traditional territories of the

[0:00:57] Trustee Patrick: the Coast Salish people.

[0:00:59] Trustee Patrick: But I also like to share,

[0:01:02] Trustee Patrick: I always like to share lessons

[0:01:05] Trustee Patrick: on my own personal journey on reconciliation.

[0:01:10] Trustee Patrick: Last month, we had the opportunity to journey on a boat

[0:01:13] Trustee Patrick: with Laiacson elders out in the waters

[0:01:16] Trustee Patrick: around what they know as Laiacson Island.

[0:01:19] Trustee Patrick: We know it as Valdez Island.

[0:01:21] Trustee Patrick: And we were welcomed onto the reservation on Shingle Spit.

[0:01:26] Trustee Patrick: And the elder, when he stepped onto the beach,

[0:01:29] Trustee Patrick: he introduced himself to his ancestors and thanked them and he reiterated his

[0:01:38] Trustee Patrick: work that he'll do to support and steward the land into the future for future generations

[0:01:44] Trustee Patrick: and it's such a deeply moving and reminder of our responsibilities for these lands for future

[0:01:51] Trustee Patrick: future generations. I'm so I'm Laura Pedra. I'm elected on Salt Spring. And I'm joined today by

[0:02:00] Trustee Patrick: Trustee Colbert and Trustee Langrass, Langrass, Langrass, Langrass, say it right. Together,

[0:02:08] Trustee Patrick: we make up your Gabriel, a local trust committee. Vanessa Craig will not be joining us today. But I

[0:02:15] Trustee Patrick: do have a report that I hopefully will remember to read when we get to that point in the agenda.

[0:02:19] Trustee Patrick: this meeting is being live streamed and recorded and the recordings will be available sometime

[0:02:26] Trustee Patrick: next week as this is an electronic meeting for those that are live streaming we do apologize

[0:02:33] Trustee Patrick: in advance sometimes we run into technical difficulties we'll do our best to overcome

[0:02:38] Trustee Patrick: them but the recording will be available in the event that we lose connection

[0:02:42] Trustee Patrick: for some reason

[0:02:43] Trustee Patrick: We have a number of staff joining us today electronically here. We have Sonia Zupanek, if I said that correctly, and also Heather. Oh, we have, oh my goodness, we have more people.

[0:03:01] Trustee Patrick: people. Are you Stephen? We have Stephen or Anthony. Sorry, I don't know. Yeah, Anthony.

[0:03:10] Trustee Patrick: Oh, sorry. I'm learning your stuff here.

[0:03:12] Trustee Patrick: Anthony Patino, Island Planner. Stephan Powell. If he's

[0:03:17] Trustee Patrick: here, he is not here. And we have Heather Cowher, the Regional Planning Manager. And in the room,

[0:03:22] Trustee Patrick: we have our minute taker, Nadine Morrow. See, I'm terrible with names. I apologize.

[0:03:32] Trustee Patrick: While some of our staff may be coming from their own homes, as well as here, this is a workplace, and we need to respect that as a safe workspace, which I know we all will.

[0:03:45] Trustee Patrick: So, trustees, we have an agenda before us. Are there any additions or changes that need to be made to the agenda?

[0:03:55] Voice 2: No.

[0:03:56] Voice 2: So

[0:03:56] Trustee Patrick: we can approve the agenda through general consent?

[0:03:59] Trustee Patrick: Excellent.

[0:04:02] Trustee Patrick: with that then we go right to reports trustee reports who'd like to go first

[0:04:07] Trustee Patrick: i

[0:04:08] Voice 7: guess it's in the paper today and i want to really thank vice chair patrick chair patrick

[0:04:16] Voice 7: today for some work behind the scenes and research and background and commitment

[0:04:21] Voice 7: to a request for decision i'm putting forward with paul brent for next week's trust council

[0:04:26] Voice 7: to have the province review the island's trust that's the result of three plus years of all of

[0:04:31] Voice 7: us working together and and my experience personally and I'm hopeful that that gets us

[0:04:39] Voice 7: advancing some of the work according to the mandate that is as it is concurrently presented

[0:04:45] Voice 7: and working in relation to the declaration of the rights of indigenous peoples especially

[0:04:49] Voice 7: session. So that's happening next week. And then here on the

[0:04:55] Voice 7: island, I've taken part in two facilitated sessions on what's

[0:05:01] Voice 7: called social planning, but it is kind of wellness planning,

[0:05:03] Voice 7: community planning. And it's coming out of the social needs

[0:05:08] Voice 7: assessment that the Gabriel LTC was one of the founding local

[0:05:12] Voice 7: government or government partners in and the data that

[0:05:16] Voice 7: um that was presented there so that's an rdn project now the planning sessions have been

[0:05:20] Voice 7: excellent uh broad broad spectrum folks in the community and the health and wellness collaborative

[0:05:26] Voice 7: which is already a cloud of 35 plus organizations and looking at really where the gaps are and

[0:05:33] Voice 7: certainly the thing that's really stood out for me are the gaps in services and support for for

[0:05:39] Voice 7: child and youth services um and that's that's the greatest pressure in the community um um with a

[0:05:46] Voice 7: sort of an avalanche of issues related to housing and everything else um and that that's where you

[0:05:53] Voice 7: see the most sort of the need and the gaps and so how do we respond to that as a community that's

[0:05:59] Voice 7: part of the island's trust review in terms of governance and it's also a potential um you know

[0:06:04] Voice 7: rdn violence trust community partnership so those have been really uh they've given me hope for for

[0:06:10] Voice 7: providing some community services um just to the people who are most vulnerable most in need

[0:06:16] Voice 7: especially um children children youth and families um so that's my report thank you

[0:06:25] Voice 19: thank you yeah um my report has some similarities and now i put forward along lee middleton

[0:06:33] Voice 19: and an RFP to Trust Council to establish a standing governance committee,

[0:06:38] Voice 19: which came out of one of the recommendations from the governance review.

[0:06:44] Voice 19: I'm hoping that actually the two RFPs can work together.

[0:06:49] Voice 19: And one is from outside and one is coming up from the inside.

[0:06:55] Voice 19: And that eventually, because the governance one will take a little longer,

[0:06:59] Voice 19: but we can do some things immediately at least within the framework of our current

[0:07:03] Voice 19: structure legislative structure so that's that's one of my hopes for next week that we'll be able

[0:07:09] Voice 19: to achieve that um other than that uh on monday uh elder geraldine manson will be giving a talk

[0:07:17] Voice 19: on five villages at the here at the art center from one to three and that's by donation and

[0:07:23] Voice 19: And it's a history of the five of them.

[0:07:25] Voice 19: And they're called, it's another name that says,

[0:07:29] Voice 19: I couldn't quite figure out how to pronounce it.

[0:07:32] Voice 19: Salah-kun, Salah-kun.

[0:07:35] Voice 19: So they're the predecessors to Sunaymo.

[0:07:37] Voice 19: They have five villages doing that.

[0:07:40] Voice 19: And then at 3.30, there's going, she's Elder Manson,

[0:07:44] Voice 19: there's gonna be a book launch.

[0:07:46] Voice 19: She's written a book and it's entitled,

[0:07:48] Voice 19: I keep running at this.

[0:07:53] Voice 19: So name of history written in places and spaces

[0:07:56] Voice 19: and an echoing time, and it's her book.

[0:08:00] Voice 19: She'll be launching it at 3.30 at the museum.

[0:08:03] Voice 19: And the point right now is that we have been meaning

[0:08:08] Voice 19: to give her an award from three years ago, 2019,

[0:08:12] Voice 19: which a variety of circumstances never occurred,

[0:08:15] Voice 19: but that's slated now to occur at the book launch.

[0:08:17] Voice 19: she will be presenting her with the award and the gift of the local trust committee

[0:08:22] that purchase so that'll be happening next on monday monday afternoon

[0:08:27] Voice 19: um other than that um

[0:08:31] Voice 19: i'm trying to keep it short trust programs committee and you know we're going to be having

[0:08:35] Voice 19: a meeting in july in person in an animal to go over the report the isl report the 2050 report

[0:08:42] Voice 19: that was submitted to us council next week and then we'll be going through it there'll be an

[0:08:47] Voice 19: in-person meeting

[0:08:47] Voice 19: in an island so that'll be a big event uh and then um the other thing is

[0:08:53] Voice 19: the regional planning committee meeting carries on you know changing the structure of how we

[0:08:58] Voice 19: operate our planning services it's going back to uh trust council and with some suggestions

[0:09:05] Voice 19: um i'll leave it at that for now thank you

[0:09:08] Voice 7: sorry charlotte has that one thing in terms of event

[0:09:10] Voice 7: promotion i want to thank um trustee lingeris for for coordinating that with elder manson that's

[0:09:15] Voice 7: been a challenge during a pandemic we want to keep the elders safe but um thank you thank you

[0:09:20] Voice 7: for that relationship building work and i think that's a special award i just want to bring up

[0:09:24] Voice 7: one event happening on saturday it's a run for like someone had actually uh in honor of jay

[0:09:29] Voice 7: deere who was a volunteer firefighter who was struck and killed um by a driver of a vehicle

[0:09:36] Voice 7: and it's a run that's happening on saturday the starting place has been a fire hall and it's a

[0:09:40] Voice 7: fundraising um event and uh and jay and his family are well remembered and supported in this community

[0:09:46] Voice 7: so i hope everyone turns out for that either running it or volunteering or providing some

[0:09:51] Voice 7: funds for a good cause

[0:09:52] Voice 5: thank

[0:09:53] Voice 7: you very much important

[0:09:54] Trustee Patrick: global events um so for my report

[0:09:58] Trustee Patrick: yes trust council is next week it's uh the 21st through 23rd on the evening of the 21st

[0:10:04] Trustee Patrick: is the delegations in town hall the delegations go first the town hall will start following that

[0:10:11] Trustee Patrick: so if you only want to speak in the town hall you can delay your your start there a little bit but

[0:10:18] Trustee Patrick: you know we should be starting the town hall about 10 to 8 I think if everyone sticks to their time

[0:10:25] Trustee Patrick: yes the two RFDs that were mentioned here I absolutely see these as complementary not

[0:10:31] Trustee Patrick: not contradictory. This isn't an either or. They work together. In fact, I think first year of the

[0:10:36] Trustee Patrick: term when the regional district had their governance and priorities committee established,

[0:10:44] Trustee Patrick: I think Scott was waving that at everybody when we should have one of these. So maybe we will.

[0:10:50] Trustee Patrick: I'm looking forward to the conversations. I remember that one at the time. I was like,

[0:10:57] Trustee Patrick: we don't want that but now we do

[0:10:59] Trustee Patrick: all right takes time

[0:11:00] Trustee Patrick: takes time um so uh anyway i'm looking forward

[0:11:04] Trustee Patrick: to that it is virtual the entire thing so by participating you'll see it and it'll be of course

[0:11:09] Trustee Patrick: recorded and available at a later time so um i do have um the electoral area director's report here

[0:11:18] Trustee Patrick: vanessa craig uh she has uh quite a few items on here um huxley park uh the opening celebration

[0:11:25] Trustee Patrick: for the skate park was a huge success

[0:11:27] Trustee Patrick: and she was passing her thanks

[0:11:30] Trustee Patrick: along to Trustee Langerhuis for coming by.

[0:11:33] Trustee Patrick: The regional parks and trails strategy survey has closed

[0:11:37] Trustee Patrick: and data is being analyzed

[0:11:41] Trustee Patrick: and what they say the feedback received

[0:11:43] Trustee Patrick: will help them do their next draft.

[0:11:46] Trustee Patrick: And the feasibility study of the potential costs

[0:11:49] Trustee Patrick: and function of creating a community health

[0:11:51] Trustee Patrick: and wellbeing planner position is continuing.

[0:11:55] Trustee Patrick: And there's more stakeholder meetings coming on that and she passes her thanks to Scott Colburn for his participation and draft will be available, coming in the next few weeks.

[0:12:07] Trustee Patrick: After endorsing the community wildfire resiliency plan, the committee a motion was made by the board to refer the plan back to the committee for additional discussion.

[0:12:16] Trustee Patrick: The reports were again endorsed and will appear to be on an upcoming board meeting agenda.

[0:12:21] Trustee Patrick: agenda. The current election, and I should point on that topic just for your, it's too late this

[0:12:28] Trustee Patrick: term, but something to think about for notes for next term, is a wildfire development permit area.

[0:12:36] Trustee Patrick: Salt Spring is going to be hopefully tagging that discussion on to, we're just creating our

[0:12:43] Trustee Patrick: wildfire resiliency planning, community plan now, we're updating it. So with our regional district.

[0:12:51] Trustee Patrick: Anyway, the current election bylaw restricts mail ballot voting to eligible members who meet the following criteria.

[0:13:01] Trustee Patrick: I don't know if you want to know that one, but there's a number of criteria there you should look at for that.

[0:13:07] Trustee Patrick: And let's see, members of Area B, the POZAC, met for a site tour of some parks to discuss park projects and subsequently met for their meeting.

[0:13:19] Trustee Patrick: During the meeting, the committee discussed planned parks, trails, and recreational master

[0:13:25] Trustee Patrick: plan for Gabriola, which is scheduled to occur in 2023.

[0:13:29] Trustee Patrick: Then the Gabriola Arts Council and Gabriola Museum, Islands Future, and Mudge Island Citizens

[0:13:34] Trustee Patrick: Society all were awarded community grants through the Regional District of Nanaimo's

[0:13:40] Trustee Patrick: community grant program.

[0:13:42] Trustee Patrick: And a community survey is still open until June 17th.

[0:13:45] Trustee Patrick: That's tomorrow.

[0:13:46] Trustee Patrick: It's a short check-in survey with questions about satisfaction with Regional District of Nanaimo's services and how to get information about Regional District of Nanaimo and their satisfaction level.

[0:13:58] Trustee Patrick: And that's again on their website.

[0:14:01] Trustee Patrick: Upcoming Regional District of Nanaimo meetings are continuing in a hybrid mode with some director staff in person.

[0:14:09] Trustee Patrick: soon um the next board meeting is on june 28th july 12th and then july 26th 1 p.m starts and

[0:14:18] Trustee Patrick: the next electoral area services committee is on july 7th at a 1 p.m start so we have a very

[0:14:26] Trustee Patrick: active electoral

[0:14:26] Trustee Patrick: area director it's wonderful to see and um uh that's her report do we have

[0:14:33] Trustee Patrick: first nations reports um

[0:14:35] Voice 7: yes i was scheduled on june 6th to meet with chief and council as an

[0:14:41] Voice 7: individual delegation um sadly there was a tragedy in the community and that day that meeting was

[0:14:46] Voice 7: cancelled um the chief council meeting is concurring right now

[0:14:49] Voice 4: so

[0:14:50] Voice 7: um yeah i had some

[0:14:53] Voice 7: decisions to make this week um but i i i remain committed to uh to that relationship and i was

[0:15:00] Voice 7: I was looking forward to that meeting and I look forward to being on the agenda for the next available talk.

[0:15:04] Voice 4: Thank

[0:15:05] Voice 7: you very much. All

[0:15:07] Trustee Patrick: right. Well, this is your opportunity to speak.

[0:15:10] Trustee Patrick: I don't run a clock, but I will ask you to wrap up if you're carrying on or circling in your conversation.

[0:15:20] Trustee Patrick: I know you will be respectful and please speak to issues, not people.

[0:15:26] Trustee Patrick: and with that is there anyone that wishes to talk to us today all right well i think

[0:15:33] Trustee Patrick: justin i think saw her name first and susan and then in the front and your name again

[0:15:38] Trustee Patrick: all right so through

[0:15:42] Voice 15: the chair just a quick interruption if possible at sonia yes uh just

[0:15:47] Voice 15: in case um because we don't have dan rogers here we are post-public hearing on bylaws 306 307 and

[0:15:53] Voice 15: 308 so the town hall can't be utilized for any comments related to those three violence okay

[0:16:00] Trustee Patrick: excellent thank you if um you two know what the subject matter if someone speaks up i would

[0:16:05] Trustee Patrick: appreciate just letting me know

[0:16:08] Trustee Patrick: thank you okay just

[0:16:11] Voice 14: well i am going to speak about uh

[0:16:14] Voice 14: the bylaw 308 as it is an administrative bylaw no

[0:16:18] Voice 12: it's post it's post she is wrong all right

[0:16:21] Voice 12: it's an administrative bylaw madam it's post is there a public was there a public hearing

[0:16:27] Trustee Patrick: it's post public hearing madam it's

[0:16:30] Voice 12: post public hearing public hearing for this but they did not

[0:16:33] Voice 12: require one just anything is to to get people from talking about just just said

[0:16:37] Trustee Patrick: i'm sorry you

[0:16:40] Voice 12: are welcome

[0:16:40] Voice 12: to talk with

[0:16:41] Trustee Patrick: staff about any issues

[0:16:43] Trustee Patrick: that you can raise no i'm not about the not

[0:16:46] Trustee Patrick: speaking but you can raise your concerns with staff post public hearing and they'll decide

[0:16:52] Trustee Patrick: if they want to bring that to attention or if it needs to be brought to the attention of the

[0:16:56] Trustee Patrick: trustees so i please ask you to respect that we're post public hearing on it and you're welcome to

[0:17:03] Trustee Patrick: talk to stuff i

[0:17:04] Voice 19: see it slightly differently because the the public hearing was on 306 and 307

[0:17:10] Voice 19: and this is an administrative bylaw that's that's my

[0:17:14] Voice 19: understanding the public hearing

[0:17:26] Trustee Patrick: I'm going to listen to staff. Go ahead, Sonia.

[0:17:29] Voice 15: Hi, thank you. Through the chair. So the public hearing was advertised and notified to include

[0:17:36] Voice 15: the housing agreement as well, because it's an integral part of the consideration of the OCP

[0:17:42] Voice 15: and land use bylaw amendment.

[0:17:45] Voice 15: So at this point in time,

[0:17:46] Voice 15: we are adhering to the procedural rules

[0:17:49] Voice 15: that discussion, public discussion of bylaw 308

[0:17:54] Voice 15: is related to 306 and 307 as well,

[0:17:58] Voice 15: and should be directed through staff only

[0:18:00] Voice 15: post public hearing.

[0:18:02] Voice 15: And we will advise the local trust committee

[0:18:04] Voice 15: if there's any consideration that they need to make

[0:18:08] Voice 15: moving forward.

[0:18:09] Trustee Patrick: so thank you thank you very much yeah okay i disagree but

[0:18:13] Trustee Patrick: that's fine all right so just since

[0:18:15] Trustee Patrick: i do ask you to please uh recognize okay

[0:18:18] Voice 14: yeah there's another thank you

[0:18:21] Trustee Patrick: okay so you come back

[0:18:23] Trustee Patrick: come back to you then okay

[0:18:25] Voice 16: susan first of all my apologies for being late

[0:18:31] Voice 16: i left courtesan at seven o'clock this morning hoping i could get here in time for the town hall

[0:18:37] Voice 16: um so my dear local trust committee this relates to a letter i sent last night probably after the

[0:18:46] Voice 16: office closed and i'm sorry about that so i'd like to read about that town hall today and it

[0:18:52] Voice 16: is regarding the ecological protection zone project i'm very pleased to see the proposed

[0:18:58] Voice 16: ecological protection zone project become a priority because as you probably remember

[0:19:04] Voice 16: i have been asking for this kind of zone for the gabriel local trust area not just for specific

[0:19:10] Voice 16: parts of the land but also as a holding place for possible land donations or resigning opportunities

[0:19:18] Voice 16: i was initially encouraged and gave full support to planner ian cox's january 2021 staff report

[0:19:25] Voice 16: regarding an ecological protection zone i likewise give the same support in the staff report by

[0:19:31] Voice 16: planner anthony cortina prepared for the june 16th local press committee meeting i note that this new

[0:19:40] Voice 16: staff report not only includes the re-designation of vernon's acres and still going to pay nature

[0:19:47] Voice 16: reserves to a conservation ep zone it also suggests the possibility of including the

[0:19:54] Voice 16: rezoning of a portion of the 707 community park donor lands added by the potlatch rezoning process

[0:20:03] Voice 16: this too would be a long-term benefit to gabriel the local trust area oh my last paragraph says

[0:20:10] Voice 16: i'm sorry i can't be at the meeting because i wrote this last night and i thought the meeting

[0:20:15] Voice 16: was at 10 30. but i'm very happy to be here and i thank you very much for your attention thank you

[0:20:22] Trustee Patrick: you all right um so just we'll come back to you then i'll bruce yes um

[0:20:29] Voice 6: well again i'm here to

[0:20:35] Voice 6: carry on purpose my partner's outside and the truck he won't even come into this meeting anymore

[0:20:45] Voice 6: um a short history for those of you who don't know we started fighting to preserve and protect

[0:20:56] Voice 6: to protect the natural environment and not business developments in the early 90s.

[0:21:05] Trustee Patrick: I was going to say, can you speak to your boss

[0:21:08] Voice 6: up here? Thank you.

[0:21:09] Voice 6: Okay. And fought against something called the home occupations bylaw,

[0:21:19] Voice 6: which allowed two businesses on a half acre lot.

[0:21:26] Voice 6: and it what it had done as it subsided the previous bylaw had progressive uses depending

[0:21:36] Voice 6: upon the size of the lot and we became alarmed when it was proposed and passed

[0:21:46] Voice 6: these incredible uses of business uses promoted on the half acre lot and the worst of which we

[0:21:56] Voice 6: felt at the time where we were operating a one-bedroom bed and breakfast and we believed

[0:22:04] Voice 6: in small footprint on the lot etc numerous letters i've written to you on this you you guys know the

[0:22:13] Voice 6: history um and uh russ went right to the trust council's council and the only action they took

[0:22:25] Voice 6: was to reduce one

[0:22:27] Voice 6: parking space and one bedroom

[0:22:29] Voice 6: they let

[0:22:31] Voice 6: the rest of it go through

[0:22:34] Voice 6: okay

[0:22:35] Voice 6: so I continue

[0:22:37] Voice 6: on this fight to

[0:22:40] Voice 6: I believe

[0:22:42] Voice 6: again and

[0:22:43] Voice 6: I've written to the queen

[0:22:46] Voice 6: most recently

[0:22:47] Voice 6: to the crown

[0:22:49] Voice 6: because I believe

[0:22:51] Voice 6: that those

[0:22:53] Voice 6: Those bylaws promoted on this island, on that small lot, up to anybody can move in, like next door does.

[0:23:06] Voice 6: And to do, say, we gave the example of a B&B as allowed, and say a secondary home occupation, such as bicycle rental, boat rental, etc.

[0:23:21] Voice 6: et cetera, you would have, and to provide the parking spaces for these businesses as in the

[0:23:29] Voice 6: bylaws, you would literally have to pave over, pave over, provide parking space over the entire

[0:23:39] Voice 6: half of the lot. And to say that my position has been since that claim was passed, that

[0:23:49] Voice 6: it's over development and it's promoted in these primals anyone by the purchase of a small lot and

[0:24:00] Voice 6: it's especially horrible on the small lot and most of which the island subdivisions are made up of

[0:24:08] Voice 6: um and since that time we've railed against it and we've asked for downgrades or in in my case

[0:24:18] Voice 6: just a revision just just uh get rid of it and start back again we still to this day

[0:24:28] Voice 6: uh i i don't like holding ourselves out as an example but we have uh uh only 11 percent

[0:24:38] Voice 6: of our traffic vermont it has buildings on it uh home and structure uh the rest

[0:24:46] Voice 6: It was part of the denuded farm development, incidentally, where Geraldine will be speaking about where the seasonal village was, for which I will be coming over and do the planning.

[0:25:01] Voice 6: And my dear friend Dave Boldly has told me the story, actually, of the area in which I live, you know, the connection of the people.

[0:25:11] Voice 6: My thing from the very beginning has been to put the nature back on the lot.

[0:25:20] Voice 6: We have succeeded. 80% of that lot is now tree cover.

[0:25:27] Voice 6: cover. Okay. At any rate, through the years, we have argued that we should be going back

[0:25:38] Voice 6: to that. Back to that. I've argued the previous bylaw with regard to for the half acre lots

[0:25:47] Voice 6: was just fine. Okay. At any rate, I continue to this day, I've sent you so many letters

[0:25:56] Voice 6: and again to the premier as well and most recently to her majesty the queen

[0:26:03] Voice 6: because i truly believe in this and i just can't see why and and then the other thing is

[0:26:15] Voice 6: there is a government program that's been available for years nature state bc and a few people

[0:26:29] Voice 6: Since its inception in, I believe, 1995, a few people on the islands have done it.

[0:26:36] Voice 6: It's a very

[0:26:37] Voice 6: simple little thing. They give you a sign which affects your property.

[0:26:46] Voice 6: Essentially, I've argued for its implementation on this island and indeed all over BC.

[0:26:58] Voice 6: and what i understand is that that um that your actions were that you established

[0:27:06] Voice 6: a program just for this island through the rdm but you didn't adopt this one

[0:27:16] Voice 6: and and i've asked you to to do it through the years my my partner russ

[0:27:24] Voice 6: came to the meetings in the 90s and waved the sign around and begged you to

[0:27:30] Voice 6: do the same. And instead of that, what do we get? More development. And I just don't think

[0:27:37] Voice 6: it's right. And therefore, here I am, this old geezer, you know, and I continue, like I say,

[0:27:45] Voice 6: say, I'm getting worn out. And it's about just, yeah, promoting the planting of trees,

[0:27:56] Voice 6: for God's sakes, on these lots. And not massive B&Bs, really hotels, and masquerading as B&Bs.

[0:28:10] Voice 6: And in our situation, down on that area where we live, across from us at one point, in fact, if you allow these things, people will take advantage of them.

[0:28:27] Voice 6: Across from us at one point, there was a...

[0:28:34] Voice 6: Bruce, can

[0:28:35] Trustee Patrick: I ask you to wrap up?

[0:28:37] Voice 6: Okay, great.

[0:28:37] Voice 6: Great. Okay. And then on the other side of this, a car storage salvage place.

[0:28:46] Voice 6: My God, you know, these things are not compatible with, and especially with climate change and whatever.

[0:28:53] Voice 6: We should be promoting the planting of trees on these small lots.

[0:28:58] Voice 6: So I ask you again, my letters are in the bag here.

[0:29:04] Voice 6: I mean, I've sent them to you. You have them.

[0:29:07] Voice 6: I shouldn't have to write to the Queen, to the Crown, to have this happen.

[0:29:15] Voice 6: Essentially, it's Prince of Wales has put out a book called Harmony.

[0:29:25] Voice 6: And in that book, he argues that we should be doing less, less business, less.

[0:29:34] Voice 6: less, and encouraging our natural footprint, i.e. planting, right, you know, and here on

[0:29:45] Voice 6: this island, since, in my humble opinion, since Russ first protested against it in the

[0:29:50] Voice 6: 1999, we've been going the opposite way, and still it's on the books, yeah, two home occupations,

[0:30:00] Voice 6: on a half acre lot uh maximum and and previous to that i note it was on a half acre lot it was

[0:30:10] Voice 6: a graduated thing you know they had on a half acre lot you could do one bedroom right and then

[0:30:18] Voice 6: to do more bedrooms you had to have a bigger lot and on a five acre lot then you could have um

[0:30:26] Voice 6: extra also but the the the law the bylaw was just put through and uh and again

[0:30:34] Voice 6: now um all that's on

[0:30:36] Voice 6: records you know my partner uh he's a retired engineer he submitted uh mechanical drawings

[0:30:43] Voice 6: you know about this and it's all on your records you know they're all registered letters that have

[0:30:49] Voice 6: gone to you people you know they're all there so um essentially what i'm asking for is just

[0:30:55] Voice 6: what i put in the letter to her majesty you know is that you just revisit that bylaw downsize it

[0:31:06] Voice 6: that's all and and if you want to use us as an example you're welcome to

[0:31:13] Voice 6: thank

[0:31:14] Trustee Patrick: you very much chris all right justin did you want to do your

[0:31:20] Voice 14: other point i just wanted to

[0:31:22] Voice 14: point out that Chair Rogers had a letter as an addendum to the agenda and it pertained to

[0:31:30] Voice 14: proposed bylaw 308. I want to get it on record that I was

[0:31:40] Voice 14: denied to speak about 308 bylaw 308

[0:31:43] Voice 14: and administrative bylaw under the pretext that because it went to a public hearing which was not

[0:31:51] Voice 14: required um i was not allowed to speak about proposed bio housing gabriella housing and

[0:32:00] Voice 14: bring that back i would like it on record okay um it has been discussed in the past and that

[0:32:08] Voice 14: perhaps director gray's report may be appended to the minute package of the previous meeting

[0:32:18] Voice 14: so that we would have a segment

[0:32:20] Voice 14: because she offers written things.

[0:32:23] Voice 14: I'm wondering why this is not done.

[0:32:25] Voice 14: It would be really useful.

[0:32:29] Voice 14: And the other topic, completely different,

[0:32:32] Voice 14: is on June the 6th, no, on June the 2nd,

[0:32:37] Voice 14: Dan Rogers, Trustee Rogers, wrote to me saying,

[0:32:41] Voice 14: oh, is this the letter that you wanted to have discussed

[0:32:45] Voice 14: at today's meeting?

[0:32:48] Voice 14: And it had to be a letter that I sent to the local trust committee on December the 11th, 2021, and it is not on the agenda package.

[0:32:59] Voice 14: And it had to do with a discrepancy between the build-out numbers from the Gabriela Housing Matters Group and Trustee Laid-A-Rise and former Trustee Gisèle Roudich.

[0:33:15] Voice 14: this item never came on any of the agendas since same with the one that you have today it has been

[0:33:22] Voice 14: postponed and postponed and postponed for four months before my piece of correspondence is even

[0:33:27] Voice 14: making it on the agenda package and i'm asking why

[0:33:32] Trustee Patrick: i i don't have an answer is anyone from staff

[0:33:36] Trustee Patrick: up the letter was intended hi sonia

[0:33:43] Voice 15: hi thanks through the chair it definitely there was an

[0:33:48] Voice 15: effort made and i apologize that it fell through the cracks at the last minute um i am not sure why

[0:33:54] Voice 15: we had reached out to obtain the correct version and intended to attach it to the agenda so my

[0:34:02] Voice 15: apologies my

[0:34:04] Voice 7: my recollection is that chair rogers asked you about the census emails if you wanted

[0:34:08] Voice 7: that in the agenda package it is in this agenda package so that was the communication of the last

[0:34:11] Voice 7: june it's

[0:34:12] Voice 14: not the one we referred to in his email

[0:34:14] Voice 7: of june the second specifically do you want that

[0:34:17] Voice 7: this email was referring to censorship no you

[0:34:20] Voice 14: understood scott

[0:34:22] Voice 7: on

[0:34:23] Voice 14: june the second he asked me

[0:34:25] Voice 14: if the letter wanted on the agenda package today was my letter dated december 11 2021

[0:34:32] Voice 14: which referred to a discrepancy of 2 000 residents in the numbers of built dollars

[0:34:37] Voice 14: potential from Gabriel between the housing group and trustee here present no

[0:34:43] Voice 7: I have it in my notes

[0:34:44] Voice 7: it's about

[0:34:44] Voice 14: the census but that's that's

[0:34:46] Trustee Patrick: of course about the

[0:34:47] Voice 14: census but it was not what he was

[0:34:48] Voice 14: referring to in his email to me on June

[0:34:50] Trustee Patrick: 2nd all right well Sonia is aware and will hopefully the

[0:34:54] Trustee Patrick: next package that I'm

[0:34:55] Voice 13: seeing what I'm seeing madam chair is I'm being discriminated against

[0:35:02] Voice 13: shut on shut out and i am sick of it

[0:35:09] Trustee Patrick: all right well i'm all i know is staff said they had

[0:35:13] Trustee Patrick: there was an oversight and i don't think there was any deliberate action so i apologize you

[0:35:18] Trustee Patrick: feel that way um but it will be um they're aware so all right is there anyone else that wishes to

[0:35:27] Trustee Patrick: speak to us today and i want that on the record please it has to be said it has to be

[0:35:32] Voice 13: told okay

[0:35:34] Trustee Patrick: is there anyone else that wishes to speak to us today all right thank you very much for that we're

[0:35:42] Trustee Patrick: going to move on into our agenda we have a number of uh items here to go through we have minutes

[0:35:49] Trustee Patrick: from march 12th that are here for adoption are there any additions or corrections that need to

[0:35:54] Trustee Patrick: Do we make the minutes?

[0:35:55] Trustee Patrick: No.

[0:35:56] Trustee Patrick: Any for you, Trustee Culler?

[0:35:58] Trustee Patrick: No, no, no.

[0:35:58] Trustee Patrick: So we can approve the minutes then

[0:36:00] Trustee Patrick: through general consent.

[0:36:01] Trustee Patrick: Oh, sorry, someone was waving at me

[0:36:03] Trustee Patrick: and I'm saying, you have to yell.

[0:36:05] Voice 15: Through the chair, thank you, Sonia.

[0:36:08] Voice 15: We did have one request for a minor correction

[0:36:10] Voice 15: to page seven of the minutes,

[0:36:12] Voice 15: if I can draw your attention to that for consideration.

[0:36:15] Voice 4: Okay.

[0:36:15] Voice 15: Page seven of the minutes,

[0:36:18] Voice 15: the first quarter section of the page under Ian Scott

[0:36:21] Voice 15: thought, and Nancy Heatherton-Pierce noted the following.

[0:36:24] Voice 15: Okay.

[0:36:25] Voice 15: The last bullet currently reads market rental units are linked to local market rents, and

[0:36:32] Voice 15: the applicant has suggested that you consider replacing the word local with average, because

[0:36:39] Voice 15: that was their understanding, because that was what was shared with the local trust committee.

[0:36:44] Trustee Patrick: So the first local?

[0:36:46] Trustee Patrick: Correct.

[0:36:47] Trustee Patrick: So average market rents.

[0:36:49] Trustee Patrick: So you're asking

[0:36:50] Trustee Patrick: that the market rental units are linked to average market rents with the RDM.

[0:36:55] Trustee Patrick: Trustees, is that okay with your recollection?

[0:36:58] Voice 19: I

[0:36:58] Trustee Patrick: can't remember, but yeah.

[0:37:00] Voice 19: I think it is average.

[0:37:01] Voice 19: Okay.

[0:37:04] Trustee Patrick: Dean, you've got that.

[0:37:05] Trustee Patrick: Excellent.

[0:37:05] Trustee Patrick: So is there any other changes then?

[0:37:08] Trustee Patrick: That's it?

[0:37:08] Trustee Patrick: That's it.

[0:37:09] Trustee Patrick: Thank you.

[0:37:10] Trustee Patrick: Can we approve the minutes as amended through general consent?

[0:37:13] Trustee Patrick: Yes.

[0:37:14] Trustee Patrick: Excellent.

[0:37:15] Trustee Patrick: So moving on here, we have the follow-up action.

[0:37:19] Trustee Patrick: list item 6.1 on the agenda page 11 on your agenda package are there any questions for staff or

[0:37:26] Trustee Patrick: anything that staff wish to raise from there no

[0:37:30] Voice 15: i can answer any questions that you have at this

[0:37:32] Voice 15: time did

[0:37:35] Voice 4: you have any questions for the follow-up action list no

[0:37:40] Trustee Patrick: okay so we'll move on to the next

[0:37:42] Trustee Patrick: item so it's 7.1 on the agenda we have a development permit so 2017.2 staff report

[0:37:49] Trustee Patrick: staff report, beginning on page 12. And is that going to be Stefan or Stephen? Stephen.

[0:37:57] Trustee Patrick: Sorry, Stefan Cermak for years so that's why I'm going to keep calling you Stefan.

[0:38:03] Voice 11: No, no problem.

[0:38:04] Voice 11: All right.

[0:38:06] Voice 11: So, so this staff report is to introduce a request for the LTC to approve a revegetation plan that was submitted by the property owner of Acorn Island, in order to satisfy the condition of an environmental

[0:38:20] Voice 11: covenant that's registered on title. Staff are recommending the LTC approve the revegetation

[0:38:26] Voice 11: plan as sufficient since the plan proposes to achieve the objective of providing compensatory

[0:38:32] Voice 11: habitat in respect to the house and riprap wall that were constructed on the site. So this is

[0:38:38] Voice 11: related to a development permit and development variance permit that have already been issued.

[0:38:44] Trustee Patrick: All right thank you. I see the applicant is here Robert Fenton. Hi Robert do you have anything that

[0:38:49] Trustee Patrick: uh no

[0:38:51] Voice 5: i'm just uh supporting the staff report and if there are any questions i'll do my best answer

[0:38:58] Voice 5: all right

[0:38:59] Trustee Patrick: trustees questions

[0:39:00] Voice 7: so the vegetation has been planted it has been planned it has been

[0:39:05] Voice 7: planted okay so i'm just trying to get your timing because the motion is that we request

[0:39:11] Voice 7: a revised vegetation plan right so it's just it's already happened

[0:39:16] Voice 5: yeah the plan the plan

[0:39:18] Voice 5: was submitted last september okay the uh previous uh staff planner i sent it to him

[0:39:26] Voice 5: please advise if this satisfies the requirements he replied it does okay we would have done it for

[0:39:33] Voice 5: my clients uh landscape architect and the contractor was going to do it except the

[0:39:40] Voice 5: landscape architect fell and broke a whole bunch of his bones so it was delayed to the spring

[0:39:48] Voice 5: And I was concerned about whether or not it would be wet in that.

[0:39:52] Voice 5: Well, needless to say, that's not a concern.

[0:39:55] Voice 5: And so the plants have been in since sort of early April.

[0:40:02] Voice 5: And my client has an ineffective janitor.

[0:40:07] Voice 5: A guy goes over there two or three times a week.

[0:40:10] Voice 5: He's checking on them.

[0:40:12] Voice 5: i made it very clear to him that his jobs make sure they stay alive and grow and

[0:40:19] Voice 5: he will over the summer water them as hopefully will be required so that's i all looked after okay

[0:40:29] Voice 7: i'm just trying to figure out in the process of this whether the plan has to come back to us

[0:40:34] Voice 7: or i'd rather get this all planted yeah it's a very thorough

[0:40:38] Voice 3: report yeah

[0:40:39] Voice 7: the plant the report

[0:40:41] the architecture

[0:40:41] Voice 5: report was sent last fall and staff at that time approved it and it went ahead

[0:40:47] Voice 5: um sort of end of march to the planning in early april okay yeah i don't see it

[0:40:53] Voice 7: it's just if the

[0:40:55] Voice 7: ltc had an issue with it you know then there's no opportunity in this but again it's a very

[0:41:00] Voice 7: professional report so i don't i don't have any issues that's just the the chicken and egg yes

[0:41:07] Voice 4: Yes, yeah,

[0:41:08] Voice 19: just a couple questions. I'm curious, assuming they did the giving of plants, or did they bring the soil in?

[0:41:18] Voice 5: Whatever soil was necessary was brought in, and they got all the native plants from a place up on the island.

[0:41:26] They were all

[0:41:27] Voice 5: specced by the landscape architect, all the details, and the contractor has followed through with that.

[0:41:37] Voice 19: yeah so basically what we're being asked for if they haven't been planted the plan would have

[0:41:43] Voice 19: come to us and we would say yay or nay that's just the fact that it's gone ahead anyway that's

[0:41:48] Voice 19: and this

[0:41:49] Voice 5: is on my understanding the previous staff said it's fine as long as that piece happens

[0:41:57] Voice 5: and

[0:41:57] Voice 19: the only thing left in is that a small percentage of plans still to be done it'll be

[0:42:03] Voice 19: be done eventually by the uh yeah

[0:42:06] Voice 5: and there's always a few deficiencies you know a few of them

[0:42:11] Voice 5: die in there they're going to be oh yes okay

[0:42:13] Voice 7: i have the plant itself i have no no issue with

[0:42:17] Voice 7: per se can i ask there's an eagle's nest right yes and there's there's a cabin that's actually

[0:42:23] Voice 7: called like eagle's nest cattle yeah

[0:42:25] Voice 2: within that hundred

[0:42:25] Voice 7: meter buffer yeah so my concern is that

[0:42:28] Voice 7: that and this this may be outside the conditions but there's a lot of interest in eagle's nest

[0:42:32] Voice 7: there's an eagles nest that's on webcam and it's adopted a little hot plate you know it's got all

[0:42:36] Voice 7: the kids excited and i'm excited this is good stuff but talking about eagles nests and use

[0:42:40] Voice 7: underneath is that cabin actively used no it's not and that's it's part of their plan right is

[0:42:46] Voice 7: to leave that buffer zone there yes yes okay okay all

[0:42:54] Trustee Patrick: right trustees what would you like to do

[0:42:56] Voice 19: there's a

[0:42:56] Trustee Patrick: motion on page 12.

[0:42:58] Voice 19: i moved that april island local trust committee approved it

[0:43:03] Voice 19: re-vegetation plan prepared by

[0:43:05] Voice 19: JPH Consultants

[0:43:06] Voice 19: and attached as reported in Attachment 1

[0:43:09] Voice 19: is sufficient to meet Requirements 3B

[0:43:11] Voice 19: of the Covenant CA

[0:43:14] Voice 19: 7939129.

[0:43:15] Voice 19: I'll second that.

[0:43:15] Trustee Patrick: Seconded by Trustee Colburn.

[0:43:17] Trustee Patrick: Any discussion?

[0:43:18] Trustee Patrick: I'll call the vote. Then all those in favor?

[0:43:21] Trustee Patrick: And that's carried.

[0:43:23] Voice 7: There's a great deal of useful information

[0:43:24] Voice 7: in these reports, too.

[0:43:26] Voice 7: In terms of

[0:43:28] Voice 7: ecosystems and science specifically.

[0:43:31] Voice 7: They really learn a lot.

[0:43:33] Trustee Patrick: all right well thank you okay so the next item then on the agenda 7.2 it's a rezoning 20.20.1

[0:43:41] Trustee Patrick: it's uh gabriel housing society uh bylaws number 306 307 and 308 we have a staff report

[0:43:48] Trustee Patrick: on page 71 and is that going to be oh there's us who's going to give that report that would be

[0:43:59] Voice 15: the Sonia Zupanich.

[0:44:00] Voice 15: There

[0:44:00] Trustee Patrick: you go, Sonia.

[0:44:02] Trustee Patrick: The screen acts funny, it's like whoever was last

[0:44:05] Trustee Patrick: is the big, larger.

[0:44:08] Voice 15: That's fine, I'm just gonna pull up the report.

[0:44:23] Voice 15: Okay, thank you, through the chair,

[0:44:25] Voice 15: the local trust committee is advised

[0:44:29] Voice 15: that the proposed bylaws for the stated rezoning application

[0:44:34] Voice 15: are now ready for your consideration of final reading,

[0:44:38] Voice 15: which is adoption the executive committee approved the bylaw 308 which is the housing

[0:44:46] Voice 15: agreement for this application at their last meeting and it is now ready for your consideration

[0:44:54] Voice 15: the local trust committee also passed a supplementary motion for your consideration

[0:45:01] Voice 15: as well which is in the background section of the staff report related to ensuring that the

[0:45:06] Voice 15: the interests of the Sonoma First Nation in this bylaw have been confirmed and there is an addendum

[0:45:12] Voice 15: for those who are following along that has been posted to the website for this agenda package

[0:45:17] Voice 15: with a note from the chair Dan Rogers to the local trust committee pertaining to discussions

[0:45:26] Voice 15: at the EC meeting surrounding this particular resolution so I just want to make sure everybody

[0:45:32] Voice 15: everybody has access to that information as well.

[0:45:35] Voice 15: The Gabriela Housing Society applicant,

[0:45:38] Voice 15: I believe is in the room as well.

[0:45:42] Voice 15: They have been and are continuing to work with NNAMC

[0:45:45] Voice 15: to ensure that the next steps in addressing their interest

[0:45:52] Voice 15: in the form of a minor or an amendment

[0:45:55] Voice 15: to the housing agreement are finalized

[0:45:58] Voice 15: and then brought forward to the local trust committee

[0:46:01] Voice 15: committee for future consideration as there was significant time for an administrative bylaw

[0:46:06] Voice 15: amendment to be considered after adoption prior to construction of any units and the

[0:46:12] Voice 15: GHS intends

[0:46:14] Voice 15: to apply for funding as early as 2023 so satisfying the requirements of proper rezonings and development

[0:46:24] Voice 15: permits being in place is the impetus to ensure that there's no further issues impeding their

[0:46:30] Voice 15: ability to secure funding and staff do not see any further outstanding issues with any of the

[0:46:36] Voice 15: three bylaws so are comfortable recommending final reading and adoption today i'm happy to

[0:46:42] Voice 15: answer any questions first please

[0:46:44] Trustee Patrick: that's

[0:46:45] Voice 6: developed we don't need more development here on this island

[0:47:00] Trustee Patrick: I just

[0:47:01] Voice 12: said,

[0:47:02] Trustee Patrick: Bruce, please, excuse me, please, the town.

[0:47:07] Voice 12: Town.

[0:47:09] Trustee Patrick: Just said,

[0:47:10] Voice 12: please, I'm not going to say I'm tired.

[0:47:16] Voice 12: Respect.

[0:47:19] Voice 14: They don't just say they don't.

[0:47:24] Voice 14: Not speaking about the confirmation

[0:47:27] Voice 12: from the snow.

[0:47:38] Trustee Patrick: please i'm asking you politely just to please allow us to carry on no

[0:47:43] Voice 6: tomorrow bruce no

[0:47:45] Voice 6: heard you as well thank

[0:47:47] Trustee Patrick: you through the town hall you had your chance to speak

[0:47:50] Trustee Patrick: something is useful justin please okay more development okay i'm asking please that we

[0:47:58] Trustee Patrick: allow

[0:48:00] Voice 6: us

[0:48:01] Trustee Patrick: to have this conversation at this table no bruce please

[0:48:07] Trustee Patrick: thank you all right the applicant is here in the name of

[0:48:11] Voice 6: the crown all right promote this

[0:48:15] Voice 6: Yes, not development.

[0:48:17] Voice 6: Bruce, please.

[0:48:19] Voice 6: Plant trees.

[0:48:20] Voice 6: Bruce, we've heard you.

[0:48:21] Voice 6: We've read the

[0:48:21] Voice 6: Chennai No. 4.

[0:48:23] Trustee Patrick: Okay, I'm asking you to stop now, please.

[0:48:26] Trustee Patrick: Okay, our applicant is

[0:48:28] Trustee Patrick: here, yes, Sonia.

[0:48:30] Voice 15: Thank you, sorry, I can address the concern

[0:48:34] Voice 15: around my reference to Chair Rogers' addendum,

[0:48:39] Voice 15: which is attached to the staff report, it's corrected.

[0:48:41] Voice 15: It is not related to the interests of the nation,

[0:48:44] Voice 15: It's related to the discussions that the EC had pertaining to the secondary resolution that is before you from the executive committee requesting that the nation's interests be addressed.

[0:48:56] Voice 15: So the confirmation or correction that Dan Rogers wanted to present to the local trust committee was not related to the nation's interests, but it was part of that discussion.

[0:49:07] Voice 15: That's where it came out of.

[0:49:09] Voice 15: So I'm hoping that that helps clarify.

[0:49:11] Voice 15: we're not trying to mischaracterize trustee rogers addendum in the application here thank

[0:49:18] Trustee Patrick: you so much

[0:49:19] Trustee Patrick: okay trustees we have a staff report before us recommendations could

[0:49:26] Voice 7: you as a member of the

[0:49:28] Voice 7: executive committee just take me through that motion the the motion to confirm and

[0:49:35] Voice 7: so what's the expectation is that a fair question

[0:49:41] Voice 7: matter um

[0:49:43] Trustee Patrick: oh the expert in relation to the message that we have yeah we

[0:49:47] Trustee Patrick: know that uh um the same

[0:49:50] Trustee Patrick: had sent a an email to chair luckum um that just asked to discuss uh discuss this it was a very

[0:50:03] Trustee Patrick: broad um statement no not objecting or any of that nature chair luckham did attempt to reach out and

[0:50:12] Trustee Patrick: in contact and just was not successful

[0:50:14] Trustee Patrick: in catching up with them.

[0:50:17] Trustee Patrick: So this

[0:50:18] Trustee Patrick: motion was basically,

[0:50:19] Trustee Patrick: we had that hanging in the air.

[0:50:21] Trustee Patrick: It was like, was there a concern?

[0:50:23] Trustee Patrick: Not the concern or any of those issues,

[0:50:25] Trustee Patrick: but we have no information.

[0:50:27] Trustee Patrick: It

[0:50:27] Voice 19: was, as I recall, if I remember correctly,

[0:50:30] Voice 19: it wasn't in response to the last meeting,

[0:50:32] Voice 19: but prior to that last meeting, she sent a letter?

[0:50:36] Voice 19: I think, no, it was after.

[0:50:37] Voice 19: It was after the meeting.

[0:50:39] Voice 19: But prior to this one.

[0:50:40] Voice 19: Correct.

[0:50:40] Voice 19: Yeah.

[0:50:40] Voice 19: yeah okay i got that wrong and i thought it was prior to the last one yeah so

[0:50:44] Voice 19: this she was

[0:50:45] Voice 19: referring to this meeting and then wants to talk to them about it so my curiosity is because what

[0:50:51] Voice 19: the and the wording i've seen is not it's unclear it could be concerns or not but it's it's it's

[0:50:57] Voice 19: triggered by this meeting right

[0:50:59] Trustee Patrick: uh it's

[0:51:01] Voice 19: triggered by your last meeting it's all it's all items so

[0:51:04] Voice 7: just yeah all items that are being referred officially through cinema we're getting more

[0:51:09] Voice 7: less the same response everything very terminally there is a response so that's that's i've got a

[0:51:17] Voice 7: motion in mind i would like to ask the housing society to do for an offer with the representative

[0:51:22] Voice 7: here um just in terms of if there's any developments in terms of um speaking with

[0:51:27] Voice 7: anyone that's okay yes absolutely

[0:51:31] Voice 17: thank you um so first of all to um the question of when um

[0:51:38] Voice 17: when that contact came to your lock and it was may 18th or so so it was after

[0:51:43] Voice 17: the may 12th ldc meeting um see

[0:51:47] Voice 19: i haven't seen the email so i don't know i'm just

[0:51:49] Voice 19: it

[0:51:50] Voice 17: was um the mention at the ec meeting um so in terms of responding to your question about

[0:52:00] Voice 17: further contact so we um uh after a lot of back and forth since they first

[0:52:09] Voice 17: uh asked us for some communication they had some communication to us in may of 21. after a lot of

[0:52:16] Voice 17: back and forth we had a meeting with them on march 28 2022 and in that meeting we presented

[0:52:24] Voice 17: our proposal of a two-part proposal of moving ahead with the housing agreement as it is with

[0:52:32] Voice 17: is to name it as one of the um eligible groups to apply and earn the top tier of eligible groups

[0:52:42] Voice 17: and that our commitment that at their convenience we would meet with them to discuss their request

[0:52:49] Voice 17: for a 25 priority allocation of homes and we thought it was a very positive meeting

[0:53:00] Voice 17: but we have not heard anything since then from the sfn so we could assume that that means

[0:53:09] Voice 17: they agreed with um that was two requests but we have not heard any

[0:53:15] Voice 17: response from them we also contacted them a few times since then particularly to say

[0:53:22] Voice 17: um or to say thank you and such but also to say when it was coming up on the april meeting

[0:53:28] Voice 17: in the main meeting but we still didn't hear any response yeah

[0:53:32] Voice 4: so that's it

[0:53:36] Voice 7: you know what i'm going to do something here i want to make sure that we're doing this

[0:53:42] Trustee Patrick: bruce please

[0:53:43] Voice 7: let us have the dialogue i'm going to move the motion and then we can then we can

[0:53:47] Voice 7: have a discussion on the record that gabriel island local trust committee bylaw number 306

[0:53:51] Voice 7: cited as gabriel island official community plan gave roll of biola 1997 amendment number one 2020

[0:53:56] Voice 7: 20 the adult is there a second this

[0:53:58] Voice 19: is for for with the 306 yeah um

[0:54:03] Voice 7: i'll second it okay all right

[0:54:05] Voice 7: second i trust a lot discussion i i think a lot of discussion is related more to 308 we've gone

[0:54:11] Voice 7: through the process of 306 and i'll be supporting it voting okay

[0:54:14] Trustee Patrick: any further discussion i'll call

[0:54:18] Trustee Patrick: I'll call the vote then, all those in favor?

[0:54:21] Trustee Patrick: No.

[0:54:22] Trustee Patrick: All those opposed?

[0:54:24] Voice 7: Trustee Langeuris, the vote is opposed, that carries.

[0:54:27] Voice 7: I move that Gabriel Island Local Trust Committee

[0:54:30] Voice 7: by-law number 307,

[0:54:31] Voice 7: slated as Gabriel Island Land Use by-law 1999,

[0:54:34] Voice 7: amended number one, 2020 be adopted.

[0:54:36] Voice 7: Is there a second?

[0:54:37] Voice 7: I'll second it.

[0:54:38] Voice 7: Trustee Langeuris, discussion?

[0:54:40] Voice 7: I'll be voting in favor.

[0:54:42] Voice 19: No, in the past I've stated my issues,

[0:54:44] Voice 19: so I don't think I need to repeat them.

[0:54:47] Voice 19: All

[0:54:47] Trustee Patrick: right, I'll call the vote.

[0:54:48] Trustee Patrick: all those in favor sure all those opposed trustee longer i suppose

[0:54:53] Voice 7: that carries i move that gabriel

[0:54:56] Voice 7: island local trust committee bylaw number 308 cited as gabriel island housing agreement bylaw

[0:55:00] Voice 7: number 308 2020 be adopted second

[0:55:04] Voice 19: i'll second it for a discussion thank you is there a discussion

[0:55:08] Voice 19: yeah i'm not in favor of this i would like to get a little more certain confirmation that they are

[0:55:13] Voice 19: comfortable with the fact that once we adopt it unless the society and the trust committee

[0:55:20] agree to a modification that they can't modify you know there's no modification to the agreement

[0:55:26] once it's once it's signed and adopted it's

[0:55:29] Voice 19: it's because it needs both parties to agree to it and

[0:55:32] Voice 19: that's the risk i mentioned that last week that's the risk they're taking is that it could be next

[0:55:37] Voice 19: term or you know who knows when it's going to happen but it could potentially be that they

[0:55:43] Voice 19: don't get they they may not come to an agreement with the uh with uh um housing our society as well

[0:55:49] Voice 19: i don't know just it's a risk they're taking that's the point i'm trying to make for the first

[0:55:56] Voice 19: nation and

[0:55:57] Voice 2: i don't know

[0:55:57] Voice 19: from what i've heard i'm not certain that it's clear that they agree or not

[0:56:01] Voice 19: they may well agree but they haven't said it and i would like to hear that they're okay with that

[0:56:06] Voice 19: that's all any

[0:56:08] Voice 4: further discussion it's

[0:56:10] Voice 7: my idea i just wish that we had more confirmation of what

[0:56:12] Voice 7: we're doing from that from a nation i don't blame them for not but i have lived up to my commitment

[0:56:19] Voice 7: to the 2008 protocol agreement between this april trust committee down stress acting on our behalf

[0:56:25] Voice 7: and our extended resolution from 2019 and the relationship building that we've done

[0:56:31] Voice 7: this process these structures are inherently flawed and there's a lack of justice in them

[0:56:38] Voice 7: but we are going through the processes

[0:56:40] Voice 7: I put forward a motion next week to change

[0:56:42] Voice 7: them and to align them with the standing

[0:56:44] Voice 7: or the declaration of rights of Indigenous

[0:56:46] Voice 7: people so I think it will fundamentally change

[0:56:48] Voice 7: the way that we do this work and the way

[0:56:50] Voice 7: that we make decisions about land use

[0:56:54] Voice 7: and we can't be in a position

[0:56:56] Voice 7: where

[0:56:59] Voice 7: we know what the nation wants

[0:57:01] Voice 7: and needs because we haven't gotten to that

[0:57:03] Voice 7: point in our relationship building and the community

[0:57:05] Voice 7: needs for that

[0:57:07] Voice 7: we have to do the work that's in front of us and do it with the interest of all residents

[0:57:10] Voice 7: and the natural ecosystems and the mandate of the island's trust as it's currently presented

[0:57:15] Voice 7: i will be voting in favor of adopting this right now and i commit myself to relationship building

[0:57:20] Voice 7: you know office or out of office disenable

[0:57:26] Voice 7: rights and title in the finance trust and

[0:57:29] Trustee Patrick: i can tell you i've worked on numerous um housing

[0:57:33] Trustee Patrick: agreements and various projects none of them have even mentioned first nations this is far more

[0:57:39] Trustee Patrick: advanced than all the others i've seen on the other islands and i think uh you know i've seen

[0:57:44] Trustee Patrick: this i was grateful to see the conversations that are occurring here because like i said they're not

[0:57:49] Trustee Patrick: even being mentioned agreements so any further discussion no i don't think so yeah all right

[0:57:58] Trustee Patrick: I'll call the vote. All those in favor? All those opposed? Trustee Long-Grace voted opposed.

[0:58:06] Trustee Patrick: That's carried. So I know this has been a lot of conversation. I thank you for your patience.

[0:58:12] Trustee Patrick: There's a long way to go before anything happens. And great work for your work.

[0:58:20] Trustee Patrick: Okay. So that brings us to the next item.

[0:58:28] Trustee Patrick: all right it's uh it's i guess it's pretty close to five you want to say

[0:58:33] Trustee Patrick: five well i guess sure we're taking a five minute break

[0:58:45] Voice 3: and david was i was talking with him

[1:03:26] Trustee Patrick: i guess i'll call the meeting back to order again thank you so much move on to the next item which

[1:03:33] Trustee Patrick: is 8.1 on the agenda which is a ecological protection zone staff report on page

[1:03:38] Voice 4: 103

[1:03:46] Voice 4: it's going to be good enough max anthony hi

[1:03:49] Voice 10: everyone is

[1:03:50] Voice 4: everyone able to hear me

[1:03:51] Trustee Patrick: yes

[1:03:52] Voice 10: nice to meet everyone this is my first uh my first gabrielle ltc meeting so

[1:03:57] Voice 10: So it's very nice to meet everybody.

[1:04:01] Voice 10: Today I'll be talking about

[1:04:03] Voice 10: the Ecological Protection Zone Project,

[1:04:06] Voice 10: which is being considered by the LTC.

[1:04:08] Voice 10: The application seeks to develop

[1:04:10] Voice 10: a new ecological protection zone

[1:04:13] Voice 10: for Gabriola Land Use By-law number 177.

[1:04:17] Voice 10: Our recommendation is that the Gabriola Island Land Use,

[1:04:21] Voice 10: sorry, Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee

[1:04:23] Voice 10: waive the requirements for a public hearing

[1:04:25] Voice 10: on bylaw number 313 cited as gabriola island land use bylaw 1999 amendment number 1202 as the bylaws

[1:04:33] Voice 10: consistent with the gabriola island official plan number 166 1997 and request staff to proceed with

[1:04:40] Voice 10: public notification as per section 467 of the local government act the application seeks to

[1:04:47] Voice 10: develop a new ecological protection zone this includes the redesignation of burn burns acre

[1:04:52] Voice 10: nature reserve and elder cedar nature reserve to a park or conservation protection type zone

[1:05:05] Voice 10: like i said the project redesignation is consistent with the gabrielle island ocp

[1:05:10] Voice 10: therefore this is an opportunity to streamline the process and forego the required public

[1:05:15] Voice 10: hearing components um sorry i have to change my screen here so the rationale um is staff's

[1:05:35] Voice 10: opinion that as per section 467 of the local government act the required public meeting

[1:05:39] Voice 10: requirement for this rezoning can be bypassed as it is consistent with the policies of the OCP

[1:05:45] Voice 10: there are a couple alternatives that the LTC may consider they go as follows number one proceed

[1:05:51] Voice 10: with the public hearing the LTC may wish to hold a public hearing for the proposed bylaw

[1:05:56] Voice 10: recommended wording for the resolution is as follows that the Gabriola local trust committee

[1:06:01] Voice 10: request that the statutory public hearing be held for the ecological protection zone project after

[1:06:07] Voice 10: first and second reading of the bylaw or number two second alternative is proceed no further with

[1:06:13] Voice 10: this project the ltc may choose not to proceed with this project at this time recommended wording

[1:06:18] Voice 10: for this resolution is as

[1:06:20] Voice 10: follows that the gabriola island local trust committee requests

[1:06:22] Voice 10: staff to remove the remove development of an ecological protection zone from the top of the

[1:06:28] Voice 10: the priorities list and place on the LTC projects list.

[1:06:33] Trustee Patrick: All right, thanks, Anthony.

[1:06:35] Trustee Patrick: We'll have some discussion.

[1:06:36] Trustee Patrick: Any questions for staff?

[1:06:37] Voice 19: Yeah, I've got a question there.

[1:06:38] Voice 19: So what my understanding then is that we can wait

[1:06:41] Voice 19: at the public hearing because one,

[1:06:43] Voice 19: there's no designation change in the OCP

[1:06:45] Voice 19: for those two properties.

[1:06:48] Voice 19: Is that my understanding?

[1:06:51] Voice 10: Yes, it's consistent with the policies

[1:06:53] Voice 10: of the OCP and the land use.

[1:06:56] Voice 19: Yeah,

[1:06:56] Voice 10: so the rezoning

[1:06:57] Voice 19: and the land use by-law

[1:06:58] Voice 19: doesn't generate a chance to the ocp that's the critical piece no

[1:07:03] Voice 10: it doesn't so i could

[1:07:04] Voice 19: see that then applying for burns acres and the uh yeah yes because they are already zoned apart

[1:07:15] Voice 19: our designated department so really it's just changing the zone from p2 to this new zone so

[1:07:21] Voice 19: that works correct the addition of that the new addition to coates marsh is i'm not as certain

[1:07:30] Voice 19: about so is it currently zoned as designated as park so

[1:07:38] Voice 10: coats marsh um it was it was originally

[1:07:42] Voice 10: included but has since been taking out of the take been taken out of the project scope

[1:07:45] Voice 10: it's my understanding that the owners don't want coats marsh to be rezoned so that that

[1:07:51] Voice 10: wouldn't be applicable here yeah

[1:07:53] Voice 19: no it's the adjoining there's one a new piece that's adjoined

[1:07:58] Voice 19: based on from the uh the rucks development where there was a density transfer there was a on the

[1:08:03] Voice 19: eastern side of the park there was a new parcel that's been given to the regional district as i

[1:08:10] Voice 19: assuming it's being zoned as a or designated as a park and i just want to confirm that because

[1:08:16] Voice 19: then that would potentially fall within that scope of an ecological zone the only question i would

[1:08:22] Voice 19: have is what the regional district and limo thinks about that and but as i understand it because it's

[1:08:30] Voice 19: owned by government by a regional district we're not liable to the um compensation that would occur

[1:08:38] Voice 19: with the colts marsh because that's owned by a private entity the nature trust of bc and that's

[1:08:44] Voice 19: as one of the hurdles for that.

[1:08:45] Voice 19: Am I correct in that?

[1:08:48] Voice 15: Oh, through the chair.

[1:08:50] Voice 4: Sure.

[1:08:51] Voice 15: Go ahead.

[1:08:52] Voice 15: Sorry, yes, Planner Putino wouldn't have familiarity

[1:08:56] Voice 15: with that density transfer application necessarily,

[1:08:59] Voice 15: but it is a really good point that currently that parcel

[1:09:03] Voice 15: that was residential and has now since been acquired

[1:09:08] Voice 15: by the regional district for park purposes

[1:09:11] Voice 15: to add to the 707, from what I understand,

[1:09:14] Voice 15: It's actually in addition to the 707 community park that it would need to be zoned accordingly to reflect the adjacent zoning of that parcel.

[1:09:25] Voice 15: So that hasn't happened.

[1:09:27] Voice 15: That wasn't part of the, as far as I know, that was done after the application was approved.

[1:09:38] Voice 15: And so that could possibly be incorporated into this

[1:09:43] Voice 15: or it's done as part of a future housekeeping bylaw

[1:09:46] Voice 15: when we have those types of parcels acquired,

[1:09:49] Voice 15: but it's currently not the scope of this project

[1:09:52] Voice 15: to include that parcel.

[1:09:56] Voice 19: Is that parcel right now designated

[1:10:01] Voice 19: or would it be under the density transfer

[1:10:04] Voice 19: would be designated as park?

[1:10:05] Voice 19: no

[1:10:06] Voice 15: it wasn't it was a residential lot if you recall so

[1:10:11] Voice 19: did that the density transfer occur

[1:10:13] Voice 19: that that was a donation to the regional district oh yes

[1:10:19] Voice 15: those those lands yes what i'm speaking of

[1:10:22] Voice 15: is that one remainder it

[1:10:24] Voice 4: was that's on the western side yeah

[1:10:27] Voice 15: that's right i'm speaking

[1:10:28] Voice 15: about that remainder parcel that has not been redesignated or rezoned since the regional

[1:10:34] Voice 15: district acquired that parcel but the the density transfer lands yes those are all appropriately

[1:10:42] Voice 15: captured so

[1:10:43] Voice 19: the eastern portion potentially could be uh rezoned because it's it's or it's going to

[1:10:49] Voice 19: be designated or has been designated as park it

[1:10:54] Voice 15: will it will eventually need to be correct

[1:10:56] Voice 15: and

[1:10:58] Voice 19: how does that occur so

[1:11:00] Voice 15: that's a great question because it's it is up to the local

[1:11:04] Voice 15: trust committee to ensure that that happens so typically your official community plan and

[1:11:09] Voice 15: land use file are reviewed on a regular basis and it's included as part of that housekeeping

[1:11:16] Voice 15: amendments or some sort of a project where that fits in nicely so at this point in time

[1:11:21] Voice 15: it's not been flagged as a part of any ongoing project you could expand the scope of this

[1:11:27] Voice 15: particular project to ensure that the draft bylaws that are presented to you also include

[1:11:34] Voice 15: that particular parcel and a possible review if there's any other i don't think there aren't

[1:11:40] Voice 15: that would require a redesignation however so this particular recommendation that you're considering

[1:11:46] Voice 15: today would not apply in that case because there would need to be an amendment to the official

[1:11:51] Voice 15: community plan for that residential parcel to be parkland that

[1:11:57] Voice 19: was my concern yeah

[1:12:05] Voice 7: No, that's good.

[1:12:06] Voice 4: That's good to know. I was

[1:12:07] Voice 4: thinking about it,

[1:12:08] Voice 7: of course, to me, the

[1:12:08] Voice 7: benefits of this is that you get the planning work done on the zoning itself, and then it becomes site specific and be added to other areas to protect you more.

[1:12:19] Voice 7: So, I don't, I don't, I'll put forward the motion, I move that the Gabriel Island Trust Committee waive the requirement for public hearing on bylaw number 313, cited as Gabriel Island lands bylaw 1999, amendment number 1, 22, as the bylaw is consistent with the Gabriel Island Official Community Plan number 166, 1997, and request staff to proceed with public notification as per section 467 of the Local Government Act.

[1:12:49] Voice 7: is there any discussion no i'm

[1:12:52] Voice 19: in support of doing this i just i was hopeful that we could

[1:12:56] Voice 19: do the eastern portion of that in addition to go to marsh and that may have to occur down the road

[1:13:03] Voice 19: we go through the public hearing process to change that zoning to whatever in order to make it

[1:13:12] Voice 19: Yeah.

[1:13:17] Voice 7: I take the planner's point that a lot of these things can be done if you do a review of the

[1:13:22] Voice 7: interest community plan and best practices and planning is to do that every five years

[1:13:25] Voice 7: and we're now moving into decades.

[1:13:27] Voice 7: So, this is one of those areas where we're not getting the most bang for our buck in

[1:13:31] Voice 7: terms of protection and preservation of natural areas like this.

[1:13:36] Voice 7: And I do think that getting the staff to advance this work so that the zoning can be applied

[1:13:42] Voice 7: to other lots and parcels density transfers is an important piece so and it's it's so in line

[1:13:49] Voice 7: with the mandate that i think not having a public hearing on this makes i think it's fine to advance

[1:13:54] Voice 7: the word especially when the terms are all being made the

[1:13:57] Voice 19: interesting part in that addition to

[1:13:59] Voice 19: coast marsh eastern portion is that there's actually a development repair and development

[1:14:04] Voice 19: up in permanent area section applicable to that lot so coast marsh itself is not not

[1:14:11] Voice 19: doesn't have the riparian dpa applied to it but a section of that um lake is subject to a dpa

[1:14:20] Voice 19: because of the other department aligned through the lake and

[1:14:25] Voice 7: i think if we had we

[1:14:26] Voice 7: had the zoning

[1:14:27] Voice 7: language we could go to property owners we could go to the regional district we could go to them

[1:14:31] Voice 7: and say and especially if it's a nature's trust that's doing it and say this is we're actually

[1:14:34] Voice 7: this level of protection and then and hopefully add to the number of acres that are used under

[1:14:40] Voice 7: that so i think i think we have to have it in hand to be able to really communicate and negotiate

[1:14:44] Voice 7: with other bodies i

[1:14:46] Trustee Patrick: mean i'm jealous i i like this

[1:14:49] Trustee Patrick: i will be spreading the word to the other

[1:14:51] Trustee Patrick: local trust committees about uh this this so this

[1:14:55] Trustee Patrick: is the end of the

[1:14:55] Voice 19: spectrum with the least amount

[1:14:57] Voice 19: of human intervention we've got the active part and now we have the ecological zone and they

[1:15:03] Voice 19: it provides a broader spectrum.

[1:15:06] Trustee Patrick: That's great.

[1:15:07] Trustee Patrick: Any further discussion?

[1:15:08] Trustee Patrick: I'll call the vote.

[1:15:09] Trustee Patrick: All those in favor?

[1:15:11] Trustee Patrick: And that's carried.

[1:15:12] Trustee Patrick: So this project will carry on

[1:15:15] Trustee Patrick: and you'll see draft bylaws

[1:15:18] Trustee Patrick: at some point in the future, I take it.

[1:15:22] Trustee Patrick: All right, thank you.

[1:15:24] Trustee Patrick: So the next item of business is a delegation,

[1:15:27] Trustee Patrick: item 9.1 on the agenda,

[1:15:29] Trustee Patrick: page 109 on the agenda package.

[1:15:33] Trustee Patrick: uh and this is going to be by the gabriella land stewards society um community service zoning

[1:15:40] Trustee Patrick: designation for gabriella so who's giving that you are yeah i guess yeah you could maybe just

[1:15:45] Trustee Patrick: stand forward this this microphone is very good but maybe come stand on this side so that we know

[1:15:52] Trustee Patrick: everyone's hearing you and you can do it but the microphone will pick you up

[1:15:59] Trustee Patrick: you can sit down if you want you don't have to stand

[1:16:03] Voice 8: all right thanks uh chair patrick and trustees and culver for hearing us i'm here representing

[1:16:10] Voice 8: the board of the river island stewards society and we're asking uh the trust committee to consider

[1:16:17] Voice 8: establishing a new community service land use designation in the gabriel official community

[1:16:25] Voice 8: gills believes that none of the current zones that are available meet the gill's intent to

[1:16:31] Voice 8: to secure land for a wide range of purposes

[1:16:34] Voice 8: undertaken on a parcel of land.

[1:16:37] Voice 8: Community service zones are already in place in the trust,

[1:16:41] Voice 8: including Galliano and Hornby Islands.

[1:16:44] Voice 8: The health and wellbeing of many community members

[1:16:47] Voice 8: is limited by lack of access to land.

[1:16:50] Voice 8: Land that can be used to achieve food security,

[1:16:53] Voice 8: attain shelter and sustain livelihoods.

[1:16:56] Voice 8: And land with a community service zoning

[1:16:58] Voice 8: could be used for a variety of activities,

[1:17:00] Voice 8: such as farming, living, working, learning centers and social enterprises that benefit participants

[1:17:07] Voice 8: and feels intense to partner with other Gabriel community organizations in serving identified

[1:17:15] Voice 8: community priorities through land acquisition. Working together to preserve special landscapes

[1:17:21] Voice 8: in which community needs are met improves health and well-being, instills hope and builds

[1:17:27] Voice 8: its relationships. Land trusts play a significant and valuable role in land conservation. There are

[1:17:34] Voice 8: a number of land trusts on the islands dedicated to monitoring, stewarding and defending

[1:17:39] Voice 8: conserved lands. It's GALT here, for example, or the Islands Trust Conservancy.

[1:17:45] Voice 8: Community land trusts, on the other hand, like Gill's, have the capacity to address

[1:17:50] Voice 8: broader issues that reflect changing community needs and connect people to land and other

[1:17:56] Voice 8: powerful ways. Community Land Trust can bring healthy food to the table, support the development

[1:18:03] Voice 8: of affordable housing, contribute to the local economy, provide land-based education and nurture

[1:18:09] Voice 8: community. Community ownership and stewardship of significant land resources provide opportunities

[1:18:16] Voice 8: to sustain human well-being, help communities build more resilient and innovative and successful.

[1:18:24] Voice 8: GILS is a non-profit registered charity our aim is to benefit Gabriel Owens and St. Iola First Nation members by acquiring and stewarding land on Gabriel Owens Island under a community ownership model that promotes long-term community benefits, affordability and sustainability and enables democratic local planning.

[1:18:46] Voice 8: that's basically the letter that was in the package um so just to summarize we are looking

[1:18:52] Voice 8: for a community services designation to be added to the ocp and then if i understand the process

[1:18:59] Voice 8: properly the change to the land use bylaw to develop regulations for properties in community

[1:19:05] Voice 8: service zones clearly we do not expect this change to happen within the term of the trust committee

[1:19:13] Voice 8: we are bringing this request forward now in the hopes that you will provide us with some feedback

[1:19:20] Voice 8: on the feasibility of the concept and of how we should proceed under the new local trust committee

[1:19:27] Voice 8: in 2023 thank you

[1:19:30] Trustee Patrick: all right are

[1:19:31] Trustee Patrick: there questions no this

[1:19:35] Voice 7: is this is interesting um and maybe maybe

[1:19:37] Voice 7: both of you can help me with this because the trust has done work this term on community benefit

[1:19:43] Voice 7: land trusts and there was a report from at the time planning management marler i don't know if

[1:19:49] Voice 7: it ever arrived but we made a request ever right it never

[1:19:52] Voice 4: did arrive because

[1:19:53] Voice 7: it aligns a lot with

[1:19:55] Voice 7: what you're asking and it's kind of trust-wide um but you know and there were some um and seeing

[1:20:03] Voice 7: this in the agenda package this week and i went back and tried to find it but there's such an

[1:20:07] Voice 7: avalanche of information this job would sometimes get difficult but i have as a follow-up i've got

[1:20:11] Voice 7: several follow-ups but one of them is going to be to see where that's at and to see if we can do

[1:20:15] Voice 7: this trust wide and knowing it's on galley and then it's going to be reinventing the wheel is

[1:20:20] Voice 7: not something we want to do that often it's you know copy and paste would be a better process

[1:20:26] Voice 19: yeah actually my question is

[1:20:27] Voice 19: related to what it sounds like to you what you're looking for

[1:20:30] Voice 19: is a multi-use zone that extracts from institutional uh almost agricultural to some

[1:20:37] Voice 19: own degree of housing and with the other things you pointed up uh social enterprise and i guess

[1:20:44] Voice 19: like light industry possibly that's what it sounds like when you're looking for it is a new zone

[1:20:50] Voice 19: or a new designation yes that pulls from all others that allows it in one

[1:20:58] Voice 19: the question about the lub my sense is that that would occur once there was an application yes for

[1:21:06] Voice 19: for you basically have to apply for rezoning uh you know to whatever is the policy that's

[1:21:14] Voice 19: in the ocp now the ocp that's going to be my sense is to be fairly substantive change

[1:21:21] Voice 19: because they're drawing from potentially like affordable housing already we have a policy

[1:21:26] Voice 19: in the ocp so are you were you thinking of like one or two residents or are you thinking

[1:21:31] Voice 19: can multiple we

[1:21:33] Voice 8: weren't thinking of anything in particular but potentially one or two or or more

[1:21:39] Voice 8: yeah but i guess that would be a site specific part yeah yeah so that the designation has the

[1:21:49] Voice 8: capacity to allow that yeah so is your

[1:21:54] Voice 19: visioning then also including like co-ops ownership or not

[1:22:06] Voice 19: I don't know what other form there would be other than cooperative, which is not community

[1:22:14] so much as you know, a group of people.

[1:22:18] Voice 19: So is that within the framework you think or not?

[1:22:21] Voice 18: So I mean, it could be we're in the dreaming and developing stage and that's part of why

[1:22:28] Voice 18: we're coming to you to ask for some help and feedback and questions about what this might mean

[1:22:34] Voice 18: um because certainly with co-ops i mean you can also have a membership fee in co-ops that's five

[1:22:40] Voice 18: bucks you know so then it makes it very accessible so could we have a food call for example that had

[1:22:46] Voice 18: a very low membership fee and that really is community-wide applicability because it's very

[1:22:52] Voice 18: easy to become a member um so housing co-ops yes it is a different question if it is an ownership

[1:23:01] Voice 18: model but a housing co-op isn't always an ownership model for example it can still be a

[1:23:06] Voice 18: housing co-op that's owned by a housing society for example but the members are in a housing co-op so

[1:23:13] Voice 18: um the idea behind the community services model can you hear me enough

[1:23:20] Voice 2: okay

[1:23:21] Voice 18: um sorry uh the idea behind being able to have multiple uses is because we don't know

[1:23:28] Voice 18: what land we will end up being able to acquire and have the responsibility for stewarding

[1:23:36] Voice 18: and so we're trying to make it possible that when we do acquire land whether it's through bequests

[1:23:42] Voice 18: or because someone has donated us money and we can fundraise

[1:23:49] Voice 18: and we can go and buy a piece of land that has a particular use

[1:23:52] Voice 18: we will think will really benefit community, et cetera,

[1:23:56] Voice 18: then only then will we know what kind of use.

[1:23:59] Voice 18: And sometimes we may be donated or be able to purchase collaboratively

[1:24:05] Voice 18: with other organizations a piece of land that we actually want to go

[1:24:09] Voice 18: to the community and ask what do you want us to do with this land and have a whole community

[1:24:16] Voice 18: engagement process around that so it's it's really how do we take land out of the market

[1:24:24] Voice 18: so that it is available for community purposes that benefits the community and particularly

[1:24:29] Voice 18: people living in poverty so that's what

[1:24:32] Voice 19: we're trying to do so is the affordable housing part

[1:24:35] Voice 19: like somebody residing under the lot is that the intent and then you have these other potentially

[1:24:41] Voice 19: potential activities yeah

[1:24:43] Voice 18: it could be multiple use so there could be some farming activity

[1:24:46] Voice 18: happening there too or it really depends we don't know or if you think back to the village vision

[1:24:53] Voice 18: work that was done in the lock and bar triangle that's the central area over living in

[1:24:59] Voice 18: the one of the ideas were these live workspaces so is that a potential that we want to develop

[1:25:05] Voice 18: further who knows and so that's when engaging a community will be important to see what it is

[1:25:12] Voice 18: we want to do with properties depending on where they're located because it is really we don't want

[1:25:19] Voice 18: if we get land are able to obtain land that has already been either currently or in the past in

[1:25:25] Voice 18: agricultural use and is largely cleared then it tends to imply that we might want to continue to

[1:25:31] Voice 18: have it in agricultural use as opposed to clearing all the trees off another lot you know and so on

[1:25:36] Voice 18: so it's really trying to look at what makes sense for the land that we do the

[1:25:41] Voice 19: land that you start

[1:25:42] Voice 19: the land determines also what the potential uses are basically you've got your your range of ideas

[1:25:50] Voice 19: and then try to the land will somewhat dictate what's potential what his potential is i would

[1:25:56] Voice 19: that yes location

[1:25:57] Voice 19: or whatever

[1:25:58] Voice 18: right and the idea with the community services designation that

[1:26:01] Voice 18: allows a range of uses is is then if we acquire land and we can quickly or relatively quickly put

[1:26:09] Voice 18: it into the community service having made a community service designation then it makes

[1:26:15] Voice 18: it simpler when it comes to do the rezoning part where our zoning part where we're trying to then

[1:26:20] Voice 18: we come and apply of course to zone for the specific uses and then we detail what it is

[1:26:26] Voice 18: we're looking at doing with that particular piece of land but it out shortens one step

[1:26:33] Voice 7: so does just looking at in terms of which organizations can do this type of work does

[1:26:38] Voice 7: gabriel island lancer society have charitable status as a society yes you do okay and and

[1:26:43] Voice 7: what is that what is that uh charitable status line what was the purpose it's

[1:26:48] Voice 18: for three purposes

[1:26:50] Voice 18: Well, I guess five, really. One of them is to acquire and sell if needed and that kind of thing, land.

[1:26:59] Voice 18: One is to manage and steward land. But the three main activities we want to do are, one is affordable and supportive, thank you, housing.

[1:27:10] Voice 18: One is agriculture and education around agriculture. And one is small scale community economic development.

[1:27:17] Voice 18: So those are the three main things that we hope to do. So I'm not sure if we get to actual light industry, but we don't know. I had never imagined that, but we just don't know. So obviously we understand that when we apply for rezoning, whatever property we do decide to keep and steward and develop with other organizations, a lot of times we'll do that.

[1:27:43] Voice 18: then we will come forward with the rezoning application that specifies what we hope to do with the land

[1:27:49] Voice 18: and gives the community and the trust a chance to look at what that will all be.

[1:27:53] Voice 18: So

[1:27:54] Voice 7: this was where that circular economy piece comes in.

[1:27:56] Voice 7: Right now we're shipping nutrients off the island and we're having farmers buy fertilizer and other sources.

[1:28:02] Voice 7: I mean, we're just, the climate change implications of the way that we're managing client areas, it's ridiculous.

[1:28:07] Voice 7: it so i see some of the you know the enterprise zone that the chief of commerce work has done

[1:28:12] Voice 7: kind of steers in on some of that as well in terms of land use designation

[1:28:17] Voice 7: as opposed to its own what's the thinking behind that well

[1:28:22] Voice 8: the in the official community plan

[1:28:26] Voice 8: there are designations so we're asking for a designation within the ocp and then once we have

[1:28:31] Voice 8: the land we would be asking for that so that's my understanding of how it works but um

[1:28:39] Voice 18: we're a little fuzzy on how that

[1:28:41] Voice 18: part works to be honest

[1:28:42] Voice 18: and we're looking for direction from you

[1:28:46] Voice 18: yes

[1:28:46] Voice 15: i see her sonya hi thank you through the chair uh correct me if i'm wrong but i think

[1:28:53] Voice 15: what the delegate is suggesting is that the designation would sit in the official community

[1:29:00] Voice 15: community plan as text but it wouldn't be applied to a parcel or an area of the island until

[1:29:07] Voice 15: the an actual zoning application was brought forward to align with that designation so then

[1:29:13] Voice 15: the designation could be applied as well as the zoning but the designation would already be

[1:29:19] Voice 15: created with policies that clearly articulate to the community what that lands within that

[1:29:27] Voice 15: designation could entail and that would be exactly what they've just described but it would it would

[1:29:32] Voice 15: simply be a text designation as a placeholder if and when in the future an application came forward

[1:29:39] Voice 15: to actually take that designation and then apply it to a very specific parcel and then have site

[1:29:45] Voice 15: specific zoning under that designation for whatever mix of uses that they actually decide to

[1:29:54] Voice 15: to develop, if that's correct.

[1:30:00] Voice 7: chair can ask me yes are you are you familiar with the hornby and galliano examples are those

[1:30:04] Voice 7: land use designations or those zones i'd

[1:30:09] Voice 15: have to look that up to double check what the parent

[1:30:12] Voice 15: designation is for those specific zones but there's um probably a few examples i'm not

[1:30:19] Voice 15: familiar with galliano's at all but uh for hornby i can look that up pretty quickly

[1:30:25] Voice 19: to re-answer that the galliano has a community housing designation and a community facilities

[1:30:32] Voice 19: designation they've got that and then on hornby they've got uh community and trades and services

[1:30:43] Voice 19: area this is in their ocp at the zoning though it's more specific

[1:30:52] Voice 19: they would have they have like a community housing zone and then they've got uh that's in uh

[1:31:01] Voice 19: harmony and galliano also has a community housing zone community facility zone underneath the

[1:31:08] Voice 19: designation so there is once you've got the concept you have to create the zone with an

[1:31:14] Voice 19: and application understanding

[1:31:17] Trustee Patrick: it's interesting concepts i mean i think there's a broader you're

[1:31:24] Trustee Patrick: right there's a broader islands trust question because it's it goes to it's not only where a

[1:31:31] Trustee Patrick: society finds a project to develop um it's also about the sustainability of the communities we're

[1:31:41] Trustee Patrick: in and you know as more and more wealth pours into our communities land is being removed or

[1:31:50] Trustee Patrick: becoming something else and the community is having less choice in that matter so as we

[1:31:58] Trustee Patrick: continue to look at our ocps and grow we have to look at what do we what do we want to grow to hold

[1:32:04] Trustee Patrick: on to and make sure it stays what is

[1:32:06] Voice 7: that land support correct exactly

[1:32:08] Voice 7: it's more the science

[1:32:09] Voice 7: the ecosystem of that land or whatever sites are there yeah um are you sorry i have one more

[1:32:14] Voice 7: question for the institute are you committed to the to the designation community services

[1:32:20] Voice 7: in the

[1:32:21] Voice 8: actual words yeah the actual notes

[1:32:22] Voice 7: no just the concept

[1:32:24] Voice 7: okay do

[1:32:26] Voice 19: you mind if i put forward a

[1:32:26] Voice 7: motion

[1:32:27] Voice 19: at this stage how you define community is probably critical because a society is if they own

[1:32:35] It's a community

[1:32:36] Voice 19: -owned in the sense that the society members own it.

[1:32:41] Voice 19: The police station would be, is it community-owned or not?

[1:32:46] Voice 19: Sometimes I get confused with that when we use the term community.

[1:32:49] Voice 19: What are we actually talking about?

[1:32:51] Voice 19: I think co-ops would be a community as well, but it's owned by the co-operative per se.

[1:32:58] Voice 19: But that's their community.

[1:32:59] Voice 19: but are we talking about a trust-wide community or is it you know entity specific kind of community

[1:33:05] Voice 19: because the society is a community as well but just to live in a scale and maybe

[1:33:10] Voice 19: it's the services

[1:33:11] Voice 19: that are provided you're referring to more than the ownership community

[1:33:15] Voice 8: land trust the community

[1:33:18] Voice 8: in that term involves doing things that support the community as a whole so it's a use yeah not

[1:33:26] Voice 8: the ownership and

[1:33:27] Voice 18: we also have structured our board so that we have some members at large but

[1:33:34] Voice 18: we actually have more members on the board that represent other our representatives of other

[1:33:41] Voice 18: organizations on gabriola with the whole intention of really grounding it in community so the

[1:33:46] Voice 18: community is making decisions our community broadly is making decisions and also the intention of

[1:33:53] Voice 18: really engaging the community then in making decisions about what we do with a piece of land

[1:34:00] Voice 18: if it's not really clear you know as i say if it's a running farm then chances are we're going

[1:34:05] Voice 18: to want to keep it as a running farm but might have some additional components related to farming

[1:34:10] Voice 18: but um you know it is the intention part of it is watching the price of land go up and up and up

[1:34:17] Voice 18: and make it less and less affordable for communities to be able to acquire land to do

[1:34:23] Voice 18: things that benefit the people broadly and particularly for us as a non-profit um for us

[1:34:30] Voice 18: and our mandate we're addressing people who are living in poverty that is definitely a clear game

[1:34:35] Voice 18: for us that's

[1:34:36] Voice 19: a charitable that's a charitable

[1:34:37] Voice 18: purpose could

[1:34:38] Voice 19: you refer to lease as well so i

[1:34:41] Voice 19: guess the sense is that you might lease land for particular uses yes

[1:34:45] Voice 18: but it might be leased to an

[1:34:47] Voice 18: organization or it might be used to an individual both of those are possible under our charitable

[1:34:54] Voice 18: status or rental or whatever it's like

[1:34:57] Voice 19: phd with the comments yeah the concept

[1:34:59] Voice 19: um

[1:35:02] Voice 19: what what question i'm curious about was the water something about water

[1:35:18] Voice 19: something about the water service or are we talking about like a reservoir that's what it

[1:35:24] Voice 19: sound like our water provision insurance

[1:35:30] Voice 7: that buildings parking and sewage treatment adhere

[1:35:36] Voice 7: to best practices and sustainable designs and then surface and groundwater resources are protected

[1:35:46] Voice 7: page 111 number nine in the value of community services zone in the current agenda package but

[1:35:53] Voice 7: on page 110

[1:35:54] Voice 8: number three it says uh community water supply right yeah community water supply

[1:36:01] Voice 8: that's what that's so i guess yes we're imagining a potential to create a community water supply

[1:36:07] Voice 8: to try and alleviate some of the water supply issues that exist

[1:36:12] Voice 8: what

[1:36:13] Voice 19: came to mind when i read i thought the concept before in the 707 having a horizon

[1:36:20] Voice 19: more creative and if you were thinking of those kind of turned it on i just wasn't sure yeah

[1:36:27] Voice 7: uh so this is okay i'm going to make a motion that the gable

[1:36:31] Voice 7: gabriel island local trust committee create a community benefit project

[1:36:41] Voice 7: that includes in the formation of its scope research into galliano ornate and other islands

[1:36:49] Voice 7: use of community benefit land use designation well that's a mouthful yeah

[1:36:55] Voice 19: um are you suggesting

[1:36:57] Voice 19: that we put this on the project list on the project list you're going to add that then

[1:37:00] Voice 19: because otherwise it's direction of staff and we just don't have it

[1:37:03] Trustee Patrick: we're going to come back to

[1:37:05] Trustee Patrick: you there nadine so would that be it should probably be in the motion to say put that on

[1:37:10] Trustee Patrick: on the

[1:37:11] Trustee Patrick: project to create

[1:37:12] Voice 7: the project put it on the project list and to include in the research

[1:37:17] Voice 7: up its scope other land use designations for community benefits and that is just something

[1:37:23] Voice 1: so we're getting at what's on the

[1:37:24] Voice 7: hornby and galliano already i'm just gonna have to sit

[1:37:28] Voice 7: with that i hear that again i

[1:37:30] Voice 2: missed

[1:37:31] Voice 1: the last part but i got the first part that the gabriella

[1:37:34] Voice 1: local trust committee create a community benefit project and put on the projects list that includes

[1:37:41] Voice 1: It includes information on scope, research into Galliano and Hornby community.

[1:37:48] Voice 7: It's a terribly worded motion. Can I clarify that?

[1:37:52] Voice 1: Go slowly.

[1:37:53] Voice 7: Yeah. That the Gabriel Island Local Trust Committee create a community benefit land use designation project, period, and add it to the, or comma, and add it to the project list.

[1:38:07] Voice 4: Yeah. I think that's sufficient.

[1:38:09] Voice 7: Yeah.

[1:38:12] Voice 19: all right

[1:38:13] Voice 7: so community benefit then replaces uh when you talk about community service that aligns

[1:38:17] Voice 7: it with what the work that's happening through the regional planning committee and other parts

[1:38:20] Voice 7: of the trust and i believe it aligns it more with the language of other land trusts and community

[1:38:26] Voice 7: benefit is a it's it's a little bit broader than services yeah it won't happen quickly

[1:38:35] Voice 7: but i think adding to the project is what we can do at this stage and we saw with ecological

[1:38:44] Voice 7: It's kind of, well, now we've got time to do this in the staff time.

[1:38:47] Voice 7: And then it becomes site specific once you've got the word.

[1:38:51] Trustee Patrick: Is that motion seconded?

[1:38:53] Trustee Patrick: Seconded by Trustee Lundgren. Any discussion?

[1:38:58] Voice 19: It will be interesting to see when am I thinking about this.

[1:39:03] Voice 19: It's a fairly broad issue and it's going to have a major impact on the OCP.

[1:39:08] Voice 19: and it's I think it's quite likely it would eventually if it would be made a

[1:39:14] Voice 19: they call it a top priority it's going to go to the regional planning team yeah that's a good

[1:39:20] Voice 2: way it's not

[1:39:21] Voice 19: a one-year project I don't think change the

[1:39:25] Voice 7: OCP and all that but maybe I could

[1:39:27] Voice 19: be wrong

[1:39:28] Voice 7: it already exists in other islands and so I think it's one of those it already exists

[1:39:31] Voice 7: on Harvey and Galliano so the wording's already there yeah they're

[1:39:33] Voice 19: mainly focused in what I've

[1:39:35] Voice 19: seen is is housing yeah community services with housing that's it you know like

[1:39:44] Voice 19: but hornby is less specific it just talks about community trade services area and um but then

[1:39:53] Voice 19: it's got the community housing zone um hornby and then galliano's got community housing and

[1:40:01] Voice 19: community facilities as two separate entities well i

[1:40:04] Voice 19: think the project you're just placing

[1:40:06] Trustee Patrick: it on the projects list yeah

[1:40:07] Voice 19: if

[1:40:09] Trustee Patrick: if and when you move into a priorities list in your own local

[1:40:11] Trustee Patrick: trust committee you would have that go through all that you'd go through that phase as to what

[1:40:15] Trustee Patrick: is the project and scope it out at that time i we're going to have a lot of discussions next

[1:40:23] Trustee Patrick: next week at trust council about the ocps and the movement of trying to make them look more familiar

[1:40:31] Trustee Patrick: or look similar it's not just look similar it's the content issue and these these are big these

[1:40:38] Trustee Patrick: are big issues that we need to be talking about trust area why of how how to better

[1:40:47] Trustee Patrick: classify these types of uses um and make sure that they are ending up in all of the of the

[1:40:54] Trustee Patrick: ocps not just one or two islands yeah

[1:40:57] Voice 19: but if you do acquire land i wouldn't wait i would just

[1:41:00] Voice 19: to play i'm taking donations definitely

[1:41:05] Trustee Patrick: all

[1:41:06] Voice 19: right did that ultimately do that anyways

[1:41:09] Trustee Patrick: any further

[1:41:11] Trustee Patrick: discussion on the motion i'll call the vote then all those in favor and that carries might i make

[1:41:17] Voice 18: a request related to that i don't know yeah no just uh when you are looking at the um other

[1:41:26] Voice 18: are islands could you also look at the document we've prepared because there are suggestions in

[1:41:32] Voice 18: there about what values need to be part of that yeah

[1:41:35] Voice 7: that's why my wordy

[1:41:38] Voice 18: motion was trying to get

[1:41:39] Voice 7: at the scope and the and the charter and

[1:41:41] Voice 7: what could be included in that but i think staff will

[1:41:44] Voice 7: have that information in the even in the creation of the project yeah

[1:41:48] Trustee Patrick: maybe uh do we i think that

[1:41:51] Trustee Patrick: probably just make sure the minutes note to add a reference to this delegation in the projects list

[1:41:57] Trustee Patrick: so that we don't lose that or maybe it's not the plan or do

[1:42:00] Voice 7: we need a supplementary motion yeah

[1:42:01] Voice 7: no

[1:42:02] Voice 15: that's okay the follow the project list i can add other notes to it that i don't require

[1:42:07] Voice 15: your approval for for exact wording so i can reference the june 16 2022 delegation

[1:42:13] Voice 15: materials for future reference excellent thank

[1:42:17] Trustee Patrick: you there we go we won't lose you

[1:42:21] Trustee Patrick: okay so thank you very much any other questions for the delegate

[1:42:25] Trustee Patrick: then we'll carry on thank you for being here today thank you very much

[1:42:29] Trustee Patrick: so next item just uh this is correspondence i should always say that the local trust committee

[1:42:34] Trustee Patrick: always wants to hear from people so please uh make sure you do submit your correspondence and

[1:42:40] Trustee Patrick: we have um i guess three of them i don't i didn't print off the um that had the addendum um on it

[1:42:47] Trustee Patrick: but i believe that must have been done in peace um so we have the first item is 10.1

[1:42:54] Trustee Patrick: uh email here from um the c stick regarding steps canada any actions you'd like to take

[1:43:07] Voice 19: one curiosity i've got is uh the request to do is specific to gabriel and i know right now they're

[1:43:15] Voice 19: They're doing Canada-wide, it's now called Census Undercover

[1:43:23] Voice 19: Circuit, and that used to be called Reverse Record Check.

[1:43:30] Voice 19: And it's basically what they're doing

[1:43:31] Voice 19: is they're sending out a random selection of names

[1:43:36] Voice 19: and asking for further clarification.

[1:43:38] Voice 19: So it's just like a double checkup.

[1:43:40] Voice 19: We got this number of people responding.

[1:43:43] Voice 19: We're going to send out letters.

[1:43:45] Voice 19: to a certain number to say okay and i guess they want just more detail or or more clarity i'm not

[1:43:54] Voice 19: sure and to achieve that if that then affects the validity of the statistics that's what this

[1:44:03] Voice 19: is all about um what i didn't see is uh and i don't know whether they'd be willing to do that

[1:44:10] Voice 19: to do that for this particular island when they're in the midst of doing for the whole

[1:44:16] Voice 19: It's a lot of work to then, I guess, select the people who completed forms on Gabriola

[1:44:25] Voice 19: and then a certain number and then send out a survey saying, can you verify or clarify

[1:44:30] Voice 19: this?

[1:44:31] Voice 19: And interestingly, I'm not sure how it's affected previous census, do you have any sense of

[1:44:38] Voice 19: that?

[1:44:38] Voice 14: We have been doing the reverse data record process since 1967.

[1:44:45] Voice 14: Unfortunately, it is not very effective because it has never changed the original rendering or production, producing of the data at census, after census year.

[1:44:58] Voice 14: So I have contacted Census Canada personally.

[1:45:03] Voice 14: And I do have a breakdown of the census data for Gabriela, Marge, Décorcy, and there is a number nine.

[1:45:12] Voice 14: There's nine people that are living on peripheral smaller islands.

[1:45:17] Voice 14: But that does not give us the whole idea of the reverse data record is to find where there is older census and under census.

[1:45:32] Voice 14: over enumeration and under enumeration, and yes, if there is a request from an entity or a legal entity, they will do it.

[1:45:44] Voice 14: They even did it for me, but not as a person. I asked just for the breakdown of the census data for the island this year.

[1:45:54] Voice 14: our trust area but that doesn't give us the older numbers my

[1:46:02] Voice 19: guess is it'll it'll be under

[1:46:03] Voice 19: i mean the we have got statistics from uh msp on the number of people with with msp numbers

[1:46:11] on your room and it showed where we had our census children 2016 four four thousand four

[1:46:19] 2003 in fact it was up

[1:46:21] Voice 19: by a couple hundred people

[1:46:23] Voice 14: but that's because they are not calculating the

[1:46:25] Voice 14: dependence on MSP tax but

[1:46:28] Voice 19: time had passed to it you know and our population has grown so yeah

[1:46:32] Voice 14: anyway that was that's a great question you can say yay or nay that's just thank you

[1:46:37] Voice 14: trustees

[1:46:39] Voice 19: I have

[1:46:42] Voice 3: to think about it some more

[1:46:48] Trustee Patrick: I think, as again, as we go into the OSP, there's all kinds of data.

[1:46:53] Trustee Patrick: The census is already out of date when we get it, that we need to understand.

[1:47:00] Voice 19: I just wonder about the random sampling approach to checking how a valid app works.

[1:47:07] Voice 19: You know, it doesn't really work.

[1:47:09] Voice 19: I don't think it works that well, necessarily.

[1:47:11] Voice 19: It's a hidden mess, so that's what I'm concerned about.

[1:47:14] Voice 19: And that's what they do.

[1:47:16] Voice 19: they do random sampling and the only way to verify that really actually would be to redo everybody

[1:47:23] you know like go back to everybody but time has passed as well and people come and go so

[1:47:31] Voice 19: yeah i'm just not sure quite honest yeah all right so think

[1:47:38] Trustee Patrick: about that one thank you for

[1:47:39] Trustee Patrick: your request and um next item is 10.2 on the agenda very sad story here

[1:47:56] Voice 7: regular updates on

[1:47:57] Voice 7: what was happening with that and uh by law um compliance and enforcement had

[1:48:02] Voice 7: been working in the bay as well um so the current structures you know the line here

[1:48:09] Voice 7: this serious environmental problem couldn't have ever all of us got to respond in a timely manner

[1:48:14] Voice 7: there's just so many i think we both we both contacted multiple levels of government to

[1:48:19] Voice 7: speak about this and it's just ridiculous how their jurisdictional overlap doesn't cover this

[1:48:24] Voice 7: stuff and then

[1:48:25] Voice 7: and then there's some housing options related to this island that are just

[1:48:31] Voice 7: is so long-standing and not a long story today.

[1:48:35] Voice 7: I

[1:48:35] Voice 19: just watched on the

[1:48:36] Voice 7: coast and having housing issues.

[1:48:39] Voice 19: I went back to the best of concern person,

[1:48:43] Voice 19: and the person I had contact before had changed.

[1:48:47] It's a new person now that's taken over.

[1:48:48] And I took some pictures of Degnan Bay right now,

[1:48:53] and there's four

[1:48:55] Voice 19: or five boats lying on their side at low tide.

[1:48:58] Voice 19: the sunken riverboard is still there it's doesn't have the uh the flotation around anymore and uh

[1:49:09] it's

[1:49:09] Voice 19: yeah it's the problem is that part of that day is so low at low tide you know it

[1:49:16] Voice 19: really shouldn't have large in that low area especially with all the hill grass there

[1:49:22] Voice 19: and that's towards the southern side of Degman Bay I guess because where the docks are it's deeper

[1:49:31] Voice 19: but it's where the aquaculture leases are in that area it gets really it's really low and low tide

[1:49:36] Voice 19: and it's all you know most of it's exposed and I didn't I'm glad to pick I can pass them on if you

[1:49:44] Voice 19: want but they are that trimaran is still there and there's about three boats lying on their side

[1:49:53] Voice 19: three or four goals lying on our side in that low tide you know sailboats and i don't anyway i'm

[1:50:02] Voice 19: waiting to hear back from uh the vessel concerned because i understand that after that occurrence

[1:50:07] Voice 19: was doing the whole riverboard thinking that it wasn't actually referred to uh vessels of concern

[1:50:13] i

[1:50:13] Voice 19: guess we'll follow up on that is that coast guard vessel concerned yes yeah

[1:50:18] Voice 19: it's close

[1:50:21] Voice 7: have a division

[1:50:22] Voice 7: right we've got the marine division yeah exactly

[1:50:23] Voice 7: we've got two we've got

[1:50:25] Voice 7: two different vessels of concern pads that you can go down it depends on the size of the volume

[1:50:31] Voice 4: but

[1:50:31] Voice 7: my my understanding was that this was in the smaller one which was coast guard

[1:50:35] Voice 7: sir my understanding is because of the size of this this was coast guard yeah yeah the vessels

[1:50:40] Voice 19: of concern is the coast guard as well it's just a different it's a branch of it we did what we could

[1:50:47] Voice 19: but it is problematic because when i contacted the one group of the

[1:50:54] Voice 19: coast guard i think it was coast guard they said for environmental concerns

[1:50:58] Voice 19: you actually have to see the discharge or do a sample by that there was a discharge in this

[1:51:07] pollution that means you have to be right on site

[1:51:11] Voice 19: to monitor it it's almost impossible to do that

[1:51:15] Voice 19: yeah unless you can somehow demonstrate what you're doing

[1:51:22] Voice 19: it's just it's just logical and

[1:51:23] Voice 7: our bottom line enforcement system said the same thing

[1:51:27] Voice 7: the bylaw compliance and enforcement said the same thing about the little word

[1:51:31] Voice 7: no just about general you have to have evidence of yeah

[1:51:34] Trustee Patrick: so we raised a trust

[1:51:38] Trustee Patrick: Council, we put a motion forward to the UECN a couple years ago asking for a regional approach

[1:51:46] Trustee Patrick: with multi-jurisdictions, and the province didn't take it up because we're having severe problems

[1:51:55] Trustee Patrick: on Salt Spring, and you deal with one harbor. This is a moving issue. It just moves to the

[1:52:00] Trustee Patrick: next harbor. These boats that are not fit to be on the water, never mind some living in them,

[1:52:06] Trustee Patrick: not fit in the water. It's really unfortunate because it needs a regional approach.

[1:52:11] Voice 19: One of the questions I asked was, is there any capacity for DEA or Coastal or whatever

[1:52:17] Voice 19: to actually limit moorage based on the depth of the water? You know, can they put up signs saying

[1:52:24] Voice 19: in this area you can't moor because of the low tides and you both end up on the seabed?

[1:52:34] Voice 19: it i don't know you know to me it would make sense that can't war somewhere where you're going to end

[1:52:41] Voice 19: up on that on the seabed anyway wait to hear on that all

[1:52:47] Trustee Patrick: right so no action and was there

[1:52:50] Trustee Patrick: another piece of where i didn't have the um the last agenda package downloaded was there another

[1:52:58] Trustee Patrick: other piece here. It was the letter from children that we

[1:53:03] Trustee Patrick: dealt with earlier. All right. So did you want to take a break

[1:53:07] Trustee Patrick: now? Is it is in your agenda? Or do you want to keep going?

[1:53:12] Trustee Patrick: We just have one item of new business here.

[1:53:16] Trustee Patrick: Yeah, this is saying

[1:53:17] Voice 19: the DIA is actually linked to the violence

[1:53:25] Voice 19: This is on page 119,

[1:53:29] Trustee Patrick: item 11.1 on the development approval information bylaw.

[1:53:33] Voice 19: Yeah, I just put that in because that's what I'm referring to.

[1:53:37] Voice 19: The issue is this, we have created, we have a development permit area for affordable housing.

[1:53:44] Voice 19: We've created a DPA 11, which is for the affordable housing, the environmental protection.

[1:53:51] Voice 19: We have no development approval information applicable.

[1:53:55] in our bio is missing those two DPAs. In fact, it's missing a couple others as well.

[1:54:03] Voice 19: So right now we've got nine DPAs. We're going to have 10 and we've only got

[1:54:12] Voice 19: two, three, four, five, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. We've got seven DPAs in our

[1:54:23] Voice 19: development approval information if an application comes forward for the dpa and we don't have our

[1:54:33] Voice 19: development approval information bylaw we can't do anything as my understanding we need that in

[1:54:37] Voice 19: order to get the information that we require well my

[1:54:42] Voice 19: understanding would be staff would

[1:54:46] Trustee Patrick: ask what they want and then the

[1:54:48] Voice 19: local trust committee could our

[1:54:50] Voice 19: ability to ask is in the

[1:54:51] Voice 19: the development approval information bylaw.

[1:54:54] Voice 19: Why do we have the development information approval bylaw?

[1:54:58] Voice 19: And then if we can,

[1:54:59] Voice 19: like it was mentioned about Steve Slopes and the riparian

[1:55:03] Voice 19: because there's other legislation which you can apply,

[1:55:05] Voice 19: but I don't think it applies to our other,

[1:55:08] Voice 19: our own creative DPAs.

[1:55:10] Voice 19: So

[1:55:10] Voice 7: is this flaw just with Gabriola or is it,

[1:55:13] Voice 7: is it

[1:55:14] Voice 19: Gabriola because-

[1:55:16] Voice 7: Our own bylaw,

[1:55:17] Voice 19: our own bylaw is not current with our DPAs.

[1:55:20] Trustee Patrick: I guess look to staff on that question is that a risk and I see hi

[1:55:29] Voice 15: Sonia hi so through the chair

[1:55:31] Voice 15: yes the the DAI bylaw should accurately reflect the planning context of the scope of applications

[1:55:42] Voice 15: that you intend to review so that the applicants and planning staff are aware what minimum

[1:55:51] Voice 15: requirements of information may be required as part of the analysis and review.

[1:56:00] Voice 15: Theoretically, an applicant would aim to provide at the time of application any and all supporting

[1:56:09] Voice 15: documentation and reports that strengthen their proposal for a positive recommendation for

[1:56:18] Voice 15: adoption or approval or consistency. But in the event that they don't, the DAI helps to put the

[1:56:26] Voice 15: onus back on the applicant to say that you're under no obligation to consider that unless that

[1:56:32] Voice 15: that information is provided to support their application.

[1:56:37] Voice 15: So the recently adopted bylaws

[1:56:41] Voice 15: for the Gabriel Housing Society, for example,

[1:56:44] Voice 15: does have a new development permit area.

[1:56:47] Voice 15: And should they proceed with an application

[1:56:50] Voice 15: and they're insufficient in providing

[1:56:53] Voice 15: supporting documentation in the form

[1:56:55] Voice 15: of a professional report from a qualified professional

[1:57:00] Voice 15: pertaining to the environmental features and functions of that property then we'd have nothing

[1:57:05] Voice 15: in the DAI that stipulates that that's a minimum

[1:57:09] Voice 1: requirement for

[1:57:10] Voice 15: them so I would hope that that

[1:57:13] Voice 15: would be part of their application but yes you would want this tool to accurately reflect

[1:57:18] Voice 15: what it is that you're asking people to prepare in advance at the time of application so this

[1:57:26] Voice 15: easy

[1:57:26] Voice 19: fix so I have a motion anyway I want to get it

[1:57:29] Voice 19: Okay, I moved that the Gabriela Island Local Trust Committee request staff move item number 20, review and update DIA bylaw from the project list to top priorities list and prepare an update to the Islands Trust Council bylaw number 150 entitled Development Approval Information Bylaw for the Gabriela Island Local Trust Area to include new development permit area DP11 and DP8 multi-dwelling affordable housing.

[1:57:59] Voice 19: housing basically just can

[1:58:02] Trustee Patrick: you give her the written thing so she can write that down for a

[1:58:06] Trustee Patrick: minute um all right all right uh is that motion seconded yeah i'll second okay second any

[1:58:12] Trustee Patrick: discussion no

[1:58:14] Voice 19: i take it to me i don't have anyone just to make sure

[1:58:17] Voice 19: that we've got some ability

[1:58:18] Voice 19: whatever comes forward that we can ask for the information that's required as an ap

[1:58:23] Voice 4: how

[1:58:23] Voice 7: okay i'm

[1:58:25] Voice 19: going to regret asking

[1:58:26] Voice 19: this question so i ask

[1:58:27] Voice 7: it how long would this take like is this

[1:58:30] Voice 7: just an administrative it's a

[1:58:31] Voice 19: huge straight up

[1:58:32] Voice 7: it's just a bylaw that comes back to like could

[1:58:34] Voice 7: we do it this term yeah i think so yeah it's an

[1:58:38] Voice 19: administrative bylaw and it would go after

[1:58:39] Voice 19: the executive for approval but that's it okay yeah i mean that ends three that is the way any

[1:58:47] Voice 19: other administrative bylaw and i originally had raised it last year but then it was a thought well

[1:58:55] Voice 19: the model development approval information file was going to come on imminently and of course

[1:59:01] Voice 19: that has never appeared and then one last meeting i asked when would it be coming back and they said

[1:59:08] Voice 19: not till 2023 uh dave martin that was at the last meeting he said that it won't be telling

[1:59:14] Voice 19: the staff are too busy to do them finalize the model bylaw and that's what we were waiting for

[1:59:21] Voice 19: here was get that and use that

[1:59:22] Voice 7: so do all i still want to ask the question do all local trust areas

[1:59:28] Voice 7: need to do this or is this specific to Gabriel because we

[1:59:31] Voice 19: all they all have DIA bylaws yeah

[1:59:35] Voice 19: updated there I think you're by we

[1:59:38] Trustee Patrick: hadn't had one we only got it this term yeah

[1:59:41] Voice 19: and then that

[1:59:42] Voice 19: was used as a starting point for the model bylaw correct

[1:59:45] Trustee Patrick: so I don't think all local trust

[1:59:46] Voice 19: committees have them um it says you should have to it says in when I read the local government

[1:59:54] Voice 19: that i

[1:59:55] Trustee Patrick: think you can have them i don't know how it works but it helps to have them

[2:00:00] Trustee Patrick: yeah um and

[2:00:01] Voice 7: then three steps through the chair the staff our top priority list currently has two

[2:00:06] Voice 7: items so the the top priority

[2:00:10] Voice 19: list currently has two items correct density uh the density bonus

[2:00:16] Voice 15: that's correct so we will add this as the third top priority and then regional planning manager

[2:00:22] Voice 15: cower will determine how to best resource this project all

[2:00:28] Trustee Patrick: right any further discussion

[2:00:30] Trustee Patrick: i'll call the vote all those in favor that carries thank

[2:00:35] Voice 8: you for the work yeah

[2:00:36] Trustee Patrick: thank you okay

[2:00:38] Trustee Patrick: so that brings us to a series of reports then that we have here beginning on uh uh

[2:00:44] Trustee Patrick: we don't have some report here oh just it's going to be is it a verbal climate change

[2:00:48] Trustee Patrick: action update 12.1 just verbal

[2:00:51] Voice 6: things so

[2:00:53] Trustee Patrick: we have nothing this time

[2:00:56] Trustee Patrick: okay the 12.2 first

[2:00:59] Trustee Patrick: nations relationship building yeah

[2:01:02] Voice 7: that's kind of duplicatable we did talk about that earlier yep

[2:01:07] Trustee Patrick: okay and there's no trust conservancy report this time so then we have the applications

[2:01:11] Trustee Patrick: uh report on page 129 of the agenda package are there any questions

[2:01:17] Trustee Patrick: uh staff on any applications no the list

[2:01:21] Voice 19: seems much shorter than the last time i think acorn

[2:01:24] Voice 19: I don't know, it's about three quarters of it.

[2:01:26] Trustee Patrick: We'll send you some.

[2:01:30] Trustee Patrick: I'm trying to find local trust committees to take some.

[2:01:34] Trustee Patrick: All right.

[2:01:35] Trustee Patrick: Anything that staff need to talk about in the applications list?

[2:01:37] Trustee Patrick: Not seeing anyone there.

[2:01:40] Trustee Patrick: Okay.

[2:01:40] Trustee Patrick: So your expense report is here for your local trust committee.

[2:01:46] Trustee Patrick: We're ending May.

[2:01:52] Trustee Patrick: and then there's the adapted adopted policies and standing resolutions

[2:01:58] Trustee Patrick: and then just always a reminder about the web page and that brings us to the top priorities

[2:02:04] Trustee Patrick: list on page 137 you just made a change are there any other changes or comments at this time

[2:02:11] Trustee Patrick: any questions or comments on the or changes on the projects list so that's what's what you made

[2:02:16] Trustee Patrick: uh well no i didn't mention

[2:02:18] Voice 19: the top priority is this uh the ecological zone protection don't

[2:02:22] Voice 19: need to be rewarded because it's talking about that coast marsh so

[2:02:26] Voice 4: it

[2:02:28] Voice 19: should it should just be

[2:02:29] Voice 19: uh update zoning of uh heather cedar and uh burns acres there you go

[2:02:35] Trustee Patrick: we'll make sure that happens

[2:02:37] Trustee Patrick: thank you so much and that brings us to your next meeting is going to be in july 28th

[2:02:46] Trustee Patrick: 10 30 in the morning at this location and that brings us if there's no further business

[2:02:53] Trustee Patrick: we're at a german thank

[2:02:56] Voice 7: you so

[2:02:58] Trustee Patrick: is there a motion to adjourn

[2:03:01] Trustee Patrick: trustee laundry seconded by trustee culver and all those in favor and we are adjourned thank

[2:03:06] Trustee Patrick: you everyone for coming today thank you online thank you to the staff

[2:03:11] Voice 15: thank you have a safe

[2:03:14] Voice 15: trip home thank you

[2:03:16] Trustee Patrick: stop recording