North Pender Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, July 7, 2022

[0:00:00] Voice 8: Great. Now, Ben, since Chair Patrick is in a busy setting for the next 20 minutes, did you want to take the lead for the very beginning or would you like me to?

[0:00:10] Trustee McConchie (probable): Absolutely. Yeah, I'd love to. Yeah. So I'd like to welcome everyone here that's attending tonight at 6.30 p.m.

[0:00:18] Trustee McConchie (probable): We thought this would be more of a convenient time for folks. This is a community information meeting of the North Manor Island Local Trust Committee.

[0:00:25] Trustee McConchie (probable): Tonight, we have Planner Stockdill, who has been working very hard for the past,

[0:00:29] Trustee McConchie (probable): I guess it's over two years, Planner Stockdill, on the land use bylaw review

[0:00:35] Trustee McConchie (probable): that we initiated, Trustees Morrison, Trustees Patrick, Chair Patrick, and myself,

[0:00:42] Trustee McConchie (probable): about three and a half years ago.

[0:00:44] Trustee McConchie (probable): Now, tonight, this is an opportunity for folks to ask questions,

[0:00:49] Trustee McConchie (probable): to be informed about the process.

[0:00:51] Trustee McConchie (probable): Planner Stockdale has given a PowerPoint presentation, which should outline and answer some of the questions that many of you have been asking via text or email.

[0:01:04] Trustee McConchie (probable): That said, we also would like to give the opportunity to hear from you.

[0:01:08] Trustee McConchie (probable): Your information and everything you give us is very important.

[0:01:12] Trustee McConchie (probable): None of our decisions have been made.

[0:01:16] Trustee McConchie (probable): On August 11th, there will be a meeting where we will discuss and vote on how to proceed with this particular bylaw review.

[0:01:27] Trustee McConchie (probable): The other thing I'd like to recognize before we begin that is that I'm very honored to be part of teaching music,

[0:01:36] Trustee McConchie (probable): being a trustee in the Sinchothan-speaking lands of Staeus, which is the Sinchothan name for wind-drying salmon on Pender.

[0:01:45] Trustee McConchie (probable): A lot of folks didn't know that before, and we're making great strides here at the trust and in our local community to rebuild broken bridges that have left many scars for many years as a result of government policies.

[0:02:01] Trustee McConchie (probable): And this local trust committee in particular is very proud and very proud, has worked very hard on reconciliation, particularly with the recent James Island decision.

[0:02:11] Trustee McConchie (probable): Feel free to contact me or Chair Patrick or Trustee Morrison for more information on that.

[0:02:18] Trustee McConchie (probable): Just wanted to recognize that.

[0:02:19] Trustee McConchie (probable): that. Also, just to recognize, when you are given the chance to speak tonight, I'm really honored

[0:02:25] Trustee McConchie (probable): that Islanders here speak in such a non-personal, very diplomatic way. We all have our differences

[0:02:34] Trustee McConchie (probable): of opinion, and I certainly hope that if you decide to share your opinion tonight or have

[0:02:38] Trustee McConchie (probable): questions, that it can be done in a disagreeable, if you disagree, but done in a diplomatic way.

[0:02:43] Trustee McConchie (probable): That leads to a more substantive policy discussion. When I make a decision as a trustee,

[0:02:49] Trustee McConchie (probable): I do my best to take personalities and people out of these decisions. So with that kind of stock

[0:02:55] Trustee McConchie (probable): deal, I really appreciate you taking the time to meet tonight and prepare this PowerPoint

[0:03:00] Trustee McConchie (probable): presentation. So with that, I'll leave things with you. And thanks again.

[0:03:06] Voice 8: Thank you. Thank you. So I'm going to start my presentation by sharing my screen.

[0:03:13] Voice 8: and hopefully everybody is able to see the PowerPoint in front. As Trustee McConkie

[0:03:32] Voice 8: mentioned, this is a community information meeting for the land use review project

[0:03:36] Voice 8: and that involves three bylaws 223, 224 and 229. This project started over two years ago in early

[0:03:46] Voice 8: 2020 and the purpose of the project is really to do a full review of the land use bylaw.

[0:03:53] Voice 8: and also implement some of the policies and initiatives in the official community plan

[0:04:00] Voice 8: to make sure that the LUB is up to date and also to do a full review of technical and minor

[0:04:07] Voice 8: amendments for the land use bylaw. Staff in LTC identified a number of topics that they wanted

[0:04:14] Voice 8: to highlight through this process. Those are residential maximum floor area, conservation

[0:04:20] Voice 8: conservation subdivision, agricultural regulations, industrial regulations, tourist accommodation which is also known as C2 zoning, marine and shoreline regulations and also minor and technical amendments.

[0:04:34] Voice 8: The conservation subdivision topic was removed from this project because it really needed to be addressed as its own project. So that item was removed from from this project.

[0:04:47] Voice 8: Spring, summer, almost two, two years ago, staff provided the LTC with discussion papers on each topic and those are, they can still be viewed on the project website.

[0:05:00] Voice 8: And those background or that discussion paper includes background on each item, current policy and regulations and also an outline options for the LTC to consider.

[0:05:11] Voice 8: There was also early engagement with the First Nations in fall 2020 and January 2021.

[0:05:20] Voice 8: I'm sure most of you remember we had those five Zoom community information meetings that were targeted for each theme.

[0:05:29] Voice 8: And spring of last year, there was a referral received from the Special Agricultural Advisory Planning Committee,

[0:05:36] Voice 8: and they provided a fantastic document that provided recommendations to the LTC.

[0:05:44] Voice 8: So those recommendations from the Special Agricultural APC were incorporated into this project.

[0:05:51] Voice 8: Summer and fall of last year, the LTC and staff really narrowed the scope of each topic

[0:05:56] Voice 8: and the LTC gave direction to staff to start drafting some bylaws.

[0:06:01] Voice 8: and earlier this year staff had two CIMs or the LTC had two CIMs and we highlighted some of the

[0:06:09] Voice 8: hot topics for the draft bylaws and I'm sure a lot of people are asking well why are there three

[0:06:18] Voice 8: bylaws generally you know you either have one or two but this project has three and really the main

[0:06:23] Voice 8: reason why there's three is that any land use bylaw amendment needs to be consistent with the

[0:06:29] Voice 8: official community plan if the land use bylaw amendment is not consistent then there needs to be

[0:06:37] Voice 8: a OCP amendment as well and so bylaw 224 that's the bylaw that contains the majority of the

[0:06:46] Voice 8: amendments it's consistent with the current OCP so that bylaw amendment process can and can proceed

[0:06:53] Voice 8: seed on its own track. This bylaw will replace the current land use bylaw number 103.

[0:07:01] Voice 8: This bylaw was given first reading on May 26. And the general outline for adoption for a land

[0:07:09] Voice 8: use bylaw that doesn't require an OCP amendment is the LTC gives second and third reading.

[0:07:15] Voice 8: There's also approval required from the executive committee. And then the bylaw comes back to the

[0:07:22] Voice 8: LTC for adoption. It doesn't need to be approved by the Minister of Municipal Affairs. So bylaw 223

[0:07:30] Voice 8: is the OCP amendment bylaw and this will accompany the land use bylaw 229 and land use bylaw 229

[0:07:39] Voice 8: are all those regulations or rezonings that require amendments to the OCP. So bylaw 223

[0:07:48] Voice 8: and 229 will go together in one process. And bylaw 223, the OCP amendment bylaw,

[0:07:54] Voice 8: it includes new policies regarding DVP applications for when the LTC is reviewing

[0:08:00] Voice 8: maximum floor area. There's enabling policies that allows agriculture as a primary use in the

[0:08:09] Voice 8: rural residential zone, because currently the primary use or principal use in the rural

[0:08:14] Voice 8: residential zone is only residential policies that enable multi-family rental dwellings

[0:08:20] Voice 8: private mortgage rezoning conditions and also some site-specific OCP redesignations and bylaw 223

[0:08:29] Voice 8: since it's an OCP amendment it does require approval from the the minister of municipal

[0:08:35] Voice 8: affairs and really approval from the minister minister can take quite a bit of time and it's

[0:08:42] Voice 8: really unknown with the um the election coming up in fall if perhaps if we get to the point where

[0:08:48] Voice 8: the bylaw needs to be sent to the minister i'm not sure if perhaps the election it will speed

[0:08:53] Voice 8: things up or really slow things down so it's hard to know um how long that approval will take from

[0:08:59] Voice 8: the minister and then bylaw 229 as i mentioned is is the land use bylaw amendment amendment that

[0:09:07] Voice 8: it requires the enabling policies and designations in the OCP number 223 to be adopted prior to 229

[0:09:17] Voice 8: to be adopted. Bylaw number 229, within it, it rezones some site-specific properties.

[0:09:26] Voice 8: It adds agriculture as a principal permitted use in the Rural Residential 2 zone. And it also

[0:09:32] Voice 8: It also adds regulations to a new rental housing zone.

[0:09:38] Voice 8: So all three bylaws received first reading at the May 26 LTC meeting.

[0:09:44] Voice 8: And those three bylaws can be found on the part of me the project website. I believe you can see my mouse here so this is just a snapshot of the web page, but this is where you can find the staff reports and all the proposed bylaws so 224.

[0:10:04] Voice 8: that's the the big bylaw of the land use bylaw we have the ocp amendment and then bylaw 229.

[0:10:12] Voice 8: so i'm just going to go over some of the hot topics um items we've received a lot of comments

[0:10:17] Voice 8: and questions about and then after that i'm going to talk about some site-specific rezoning or um

[0:10:25] Voice 8: aspects of the amending bylaws that the ltc requires more information from community members

[0:10:30] Voice 8: from. And then I'm going to give a bit of a timeline. So I've got about another 15-20 minutes

[0:10:35] Voice 8: of chatting here. So bear with me. So our hot topics. The first one is the Rural Residential

[0:10:44] Voice 8: 1 and 2 Zone. So currently the Land Use Bylaw Number 103 only has one Rural Residential Zone.

[0:10:52] Voice 8: And Bylaw 224 will actually split the Rural Residential Zone into two zones. Rural Residential

[0:10:59] Voice 8: one will include all properties in the magic lake and trinkle mallee water districts and the only

[0:11:06] Voice 8: amendment to or the only change to the rural residential one zone is the ltc is considering

[0:11:14] Voice 8: regulating total and maximum floor area for that zone all other changes to the rural

[0:11:22] Voice 8: residential one zone is is technical in nature and then this new rural residential two zone

[0:11:29] Voice 8: the two big amendments are again the um establishing the maximum floor area and total

[0:11:36] Voice 8: floor area and also adding agriculture as a primary permitted use there's no density change

[0:11:43] Voice 8: for the rural part of me the rural residential zones though and take a quick similar so these

[0:11:53] Voice 8: These are the maximum floor area numbers that the LTC is considering for bylaw number 224

[0:12:00] Voice 8: for the rural residential one zone. And these are based on your lot size. So there's three

[0:12:07] Voice 8: categories. And they would regulate total floor area of all buildings, excluding the floor area

[0:12:15] Voice 8: of a secondary suite. And it would also regulate the maximum floor area of a dwelling unit.

[0:12:23] Voice 8: So if your property is less than one acre, you'd be permitted a total floor area of all

[0:12:30] Voice 8: buildings, excluding a secondary suite of just about 5,400 square feet.

[0:12:36] Voice 8: And then your house, there would be a maximum floor area of that of 2,500 square feet.

[0:12:43] Voice 8: And then the Rural Residential 2, the Rural Comprehensive 1 and the Rural Comprehensive

[0:12:49] Voice 8: 2, and also the Agriculture Zone.

[0:12:52] Voice 8: It has an additional category there. So for properties that are greater than 40 acres, your dwelling size could be up to almost 5,400 square feet.

[0:13:07] Voice 8: There's also been a lot of concern around legal non-conforming.

[0:13:10] Voice 8: And so the LTC is proposing to add this clause. And basically what it means that if you have a legal dwelling on your lot, constructed prior to the adoption of this new bylaw number 224, you could replace the dwelling or make amendment or alter it in some way,

[0:13:36] Voice 8: provided the floor area of your new dwelling does not exceed the floor area of that dwelling on the

[0:13:43] Voice 8: lot at the time of bylaw adoption so if we go back to this chart for example if you have a property

[0:13:49] Voice 8: that's less than an acre and you have a house that's 3,000 square feet and now this bylaw 224

[0:13:56] Voice 8: is adopted and the new maximum is 2,500 square feet this clause would allow you if your house

[0:14:03] Voice 8: would be, you know, would, if it had a fire and it burnt down, you would be able to rebuild your

[0:14:10] Voice 8: house to that 3,000 square feet. So this is what that clause is saying. Another item is for bare

[0:14:20] Voice 8: land. If you have a bare land piece of property, meaning that there's no buildings or structures

[0:14:25] Voice 8: on the land, you're permitted now, if Bylaw 224 is adopted, to have one outbuilding and one pump

[0:14:33] Voice 8: and utility shed constructed prior to you constructing the dwelling unit so this is great

[0:14:39] Voice 8: this is something that we haven't had before in the land use bylaw and we desperately need this

[0:14:44] Voice 8: is one of those things that we get questions a lot of you know can i put up a shed on the property

[0:14:48] Voice 8: before my dwelling and unfortunately the answer to that was always no but with this amendment

[0:14:54] Voice 8: yes you'd be able to put up a shed as long as it meets those regulations um on the screen there

[0:14:59] Voice 8: helicopters again has been a topic of conversation the LTC did give direction to staff to add some

[0:15:10] Voice 8: type of prohibition to recreational helicopters in the land use bylaw so staff or staff put

[0:15:17] Voice 8: an amendment in bylaw 224 that basically states that heliports and helipads other than for

[0:15:26] Voice 8: emergency use are not permitted in any zone but aeronautics is fair federal jurisdiction therefore

[0:15:34] Voice 8: this may not be enforceable but it is something that will be included in bylaw 224. next item is

[0:15:43] Voice 8: a mckinnon road property there's four properties on mckinnon road by the ferry terminal that are

[0:15:49] Voice 8: zone commercial two which essentially is a tourist accommodation zone um for the full for all four

[0:15:58] Voice 8: properties there's a potential build out of 55 tourist accommodation units so you could see this

[0:16:06] Voice 8: as 55 little cabins on these four lots so after much discussion with the property owners the

[0:16:15] Voice 8: The property owners and the LTC have agreed to reduce the density for these properties.

[0:16:20] Voice 8: And you can see that on the screen there, what the proposed density will be.

[0:16:24] Voice 8: So it will go down, or so it will be 55 and go down to 23, which is a reduction of 32 tourist accommodation units.

[0:16:37] Voice 8: And I believe the next or last hot topic is around docks.

[0:16:42] Voice 8: So the area around North Pender is currently zoned Water 1.

[0:16:47] Voice 8: And the Water 1 zone allows private docks.

[0:16:51] Voice 8: And the LTC is now proposing to rezone that area to Water 3.

[0:16:57] Voice 8: And Water 3 does not permit private docks.

[0:17:01] Voice 8: So the majority of the area around North Pender will be rezoned to Water 3.

[0:17:06] Voice 8: But those properties where they're for sure has an existing dock, or if there is an in-progress private dock license application with the province, you will retain that water one zoning.

[0:17:22] Voice 8: And so on the map here, this is just a snapshot from the new land use bylaw map attached to bylaw 224.

[0:17:32] Voice 8: You can see here that all those, it almost looks like little teeth on the map. Those are those Water 1 zones that will retain that Water 1 zone that allows private docks. All other areas will be rezoned to Water 3.

[0:17:48] Voice 8: So for a property owner in the future, if this bylaw gets adopted and you want a private dock, you would have to go through the process of applying for a rezoning application.

[0:18:00] Voice 8: So the next items that I wanted to quickly speak to are some points that the LTC wanted to bring up with the community and gather comments from a community members if they agree with these things or disagree items that really we need to receive further comments on.

[0:18:25] Voice 8: And these items will also be discussed at the next two CIMs. So I'm just going to jump right

[0:18:34] Voice 8: into them. So the first one is Rural Residential Two Zone. And as I mentioned before, this new

[0:18:41] Voice 8: Rural Residential Two Zone will allow agriculture as a principal permitted use. So what that means

[0:18:49] Voice 8: is that these properties are permitted to have agriculture buildings and structures

[0:18:55] Voice 8: with a height up to 10 meters if you're building it 30 meters or less from any lot line of course

[0:19:03] Voice 8: it still needs to meet the setbacks of that zone but if you're within the setback in 30 meters

[0:19:08] Voice 8: that agriculture building could be up to about 33 feet in height and for if your

[0:19:16] Voice 8: agriculture building is greater than 30 meters from any lot line that building could actually

[0:19:22] Voice 8: be up to 15 meters in height which is 50 feet so this is one item that we've received some

[0:19:28] Voice 8: comments about and certain there are some community members that are concerned about that

[0:19:33] Voice 8: so one item or one consideration is that the LTC could restrict

[0:19:44] Voice 8: these 15 meter high agriculture buildings perhaps on lots or greater than four hectares or something

[0:19:51] Voice 8: like that but this is one item that the LTC wants to hear comments from those people who have the

[0:19:58] Voice 8: are in well potentially will be in the rural residential two zone and what your thoughts are

[0:20:03] Voice 8: about having your neighbors say build an agricultural building that could be either 33 or

[0:20:08] Voice 8: 50 feet in height. The next item or the next topic is the properties. There's actually two

[0:20:17] Voice 8: where the Port Washington store used to be located. So this is currently a, both of them

[0:20:24] Voice 8: are zoned commercial. And the proposal is to rezone these to rural residential too, to allow

[0:20:31] Voice 8: a dwelling to be constructed on this property. And the new property owner has mentioned that

[0:20:39] Voice 8: if the properties do get rezoned to rural residential too that they'll go through a

[0:20:46] Voice 8: subdivision application to amalgamate the two properties and also shift some of the property

[0:20:52] Voice 8: lines to really formalize that parking area there. So this is one item that the LTC wanted to hear

[0:20:59] Voice 8: from community members to see if the community supported something like this or didn't support

[0:21:04] Voice 8: The next item is a portion of land behind the driftwood center.

[0:21:12] Voice 8: It's currently zoned commercial 2, which is that tourist accommodation zone, and the commercial 2F zone would allow currently 27 tourist accommodation units.

[0:21:27] Voice 8: And the LTC is considering rezoning that portion of land.

[0:21:33] Voice 8: You can see it on the top right hand of your screen there. It's that area outlined in blue.

[0:21:38] Voice 8: The LTC is considering rezoning that to rental housing.

[0:21:43] Voice 8: And this new rental housing zone could potentially allow up to 16 multifamily rental dwelling units on that property.

[0:21:52] Voice 8: So this is another proposal the LTC wants to hear from community members.

[0:21:57] Voice 8: If this is a location that would make sense for multi-family rental dwelling units over tourist accommodation units.

[0:22:08] Voice 8: And the last three properties I just want to speak to is in regards to waste transfer use.

[0:22:16] Voice 8: The first one is at 4415 Bedwell Harbour Road at McDonald Farm.

[0:22:22] Voice 8: There's a current TUP application for waste transfer as the property is currently zoned rural.

[0:22:30] Voice 8: The LTC is considering rezoning a portion of this property.

[0:22:36] Voice 8: You can see it again on the top right hand of your screen. It's outlined in purple.

[0:22:41] Voice 8: This area would be rezoned to general industrial E, which would only allow the uses that are currently permitted in the temporary use permit.

[0:22:52] Voice 8: And those are the waste transfer facility, the commercial composting, commercial recycling, and also some accessory storage.

[0:23:00] Voice 8: So this is where the waste transfer site is currently operating. So the LTC wants to hear from the community. If this site is working for the community, or if it's not working for the community.

[0:23:12] Voice 8: And it also would require a OCP designation, because this property is designated in the OCP as rural, so it would need to be

[0:23:22] Voice 8: re-designated to industrial so it needs that it'll be a part of bylaw number 223 as well

[0:23:28] Voice 8: and the last two pieces of property are 3418 South Otter Road portions of this property

[0:23:37] Voice 8: the LTC is considering to rezone to allow the waste transfer use as well so for the first section

[0:23:45] Voice 8: it's the old batch plant site it's identified in purple in the top right hand of your screen

[0:23:51] Voice 8: The LTC is considering rezoning it from industrial to a community service site-specific use, which would only permit those three uses on your screen, the waste transfer, the composting, and the recycling and reuse facility.

[0:24:04] Voice 8: And then the other portion of the property outlined in orange, the LDC is proposing to rezone that from industrial 2C, which is site specific, to a general industrial D zone, which would allow all the uses in the general industrial zone.

[0:24:26] Voice 8: And in addition to that, would also include the use of waste transfer facility, commercial composting and recycling and reuse. So these are the three sites that the LTC really want to hear from the community. Is the current waste transfer site working, or would these other two sites be more applicable sites for this use?

[0:24:50] Voice 8: use. The next steps for the project, as Trustee McConkie mentioned, there are community information

[0:25:00] Voice 8: meetings coming up. There's going to be another Zoom meeting on Thursday at 10 a.m. on July 28th.

[0:25:05] Voice 8: It will probably be this presentation. Well, it will be this presentation, but perhaps slightly

[0:25:12] Voice 8: tweaked. And also we have an in-person meeting on Saturday, August 13th at 11 a.m. at the

[0:25:19] Voice 8: angler angler head and hall and um the structure of that meeting would would be the first part of

[0:25:26] Voice 8: the meeting would be an open house like you see in the pictures on your screen i hope to have

[0:25:30] Voice 8: posters up where people can put sticky notes and we can interact and and talk about those site

[0:25:36] Voice 8: specific properties if you agree with it or not or what you know suggestions you would have so the

[0:25:42] Voice 8: first portion of that in-person meeting would be an open house and then the second portion would be

[0:25:47] Voice 8: a more formal community information meeting like the q a and and we'd receive comments as well

[0:25:54] Voice 8: and then at the august 11th regular ltc meeting uh the ltc make may make more amendments to the

[0:26:01] Voice 8: bylaws or give direction to schedule a public hearing so the potential timeline is for bylaw

[0:26:08] Voice 8: 224 potentially a public hearing in the next few months and then even potential adoption of that

[0:26:15] Voice 8: bylaw sometime this fall and then for bylaw 223 and 229 the potential adoption of those bylaws

[0:26:23] Voice 8: are really unknown because again they require the or bylaw 223 needs to be signed off by the

[0:26:29] Voice 8: minister and it's hard to know how long that will take hopefully not long but it's a little bit

[0:26:35] Voice 8: unknown right now and to conclude all correspondence regarding this project when you're sending it to

[0:26:44] Voice 8: the LTC please always include this email address southinfo at violencetrust.bc.ca and that just

[0:26:53] Voice 8: ensures that staff is aware of the correspondence so we can get it on the website we can make sure

[0:26:58] Voice 8: that it's filed and a part of the public record so it's really important that you include this

[0:27:05] Voice 8: email address to to the correspondence you're sending to the LTC and my PowerPoint presentation

[0:27:11] Voice 8: presentation is on the project website currently and so you can go on to the project website and

[0:27:17] Voice 8: check out the the presentation the powerpoint and i hope everybody will join us for the july 28th

[0:27:24] Voice 8: cim and also the in-person meeting on saturday august 13th all right and that concludes my

[0:27:32] Voice 8: presentation here thank you so much for everybody's patience through that and

[0:27:38] Voice 1: at this point

[0:27:39] Voice 1: that was interesting there's no place it's great presentation thank you very much great

[0:27:43] Voice 8: so i will

[0:27:44] Voice 8: pass it back i think back to you trustee mcconkey and um if chair patrick is available too if it's

[0:27:51] Voice 8: quite yeah

[0:27:51] Trustee McConchie (probable): i think i think uh because chair patrick's in a very noisy place right now

[0:27:55] Trustee McConchie (probable): um i'm

[0:27:56] Voice 9: less noisy but in transit please continue ben yeah

[0:28:00] Trustee McConchie (probable): okay okay thank you chair i i hope i'm

[0:28:03] Trustee McConchie (probable): I'm doing an okay job of chairing things here in your in-transit situation.

[0:28:08] Trustee McConchie (probable): So, Planner Stockdale, that was an outstanding presentation.

[0:28:10] Trustee McConchie (probable): Thanks very much for taking the time to really hit on some of the big topics that we've discussed for the past three, two and a half years.

[0:28:17] Trustee McConchie (probable): And thank you for making it so accessible to the Islanders here.

[0:28:21] Trustee McConchie (probable): So, that's great.

[0:28:22] Trustee McConchie (probable): I'm looking forward to hearing from folks.

[0:28:23] Trustee McConchie (probable): Now, just with regards to process, this is an opportunity now for folks to ask questions.

[0:28:29] Trustee McConchie (probable): Now, if I can offer some advice, because I've been in the position of being of the opposite in the public and not being a trustee,

[0:28:36] Trustee McConchie (probable): I kind of treat it like if you can treat it like jeopardy in the sense of please,

[0:28:40] Trustee McConchie (probable): if you have a political statement or you're opposed to something, if you can frame it in the form of a question,

[0:28:45] Trustee McConchie (probable): that would really keep us on track for the process of a community information meeting.

[0:28:51] Trustee McConchie (probable): I don't mind speeches and I don't mind hearing opinions.

[0:28:55] Trustee McConchie (probable): opinions. But if there is a question, the purpose of this meeting is for questions and

[0:28:59] Trustee McConchie (probable): clarification. There'll be lots of opportunity for you to share your political perspective on

[0:29:04] Trustee McConchie (probable): these particular decisions. So with that, I'm going to try and take an order. If you look down

[0:29:08] Trustee McConchie (probable): and if you're attending the meeting right now, there's an option right below at the very bottom

[0:29:13] Trustee McConchie (probable): where it says raise hand. And if you raise your hand, I'll try and get to you. We're not in any

[0:29:20] Trustee McConchie (probable): hurry to get out of this meeting so I'm going to try and get to as many questions as I can

[0:29:25] Trustee McConchie (probable): and I'll try and if we have lots of questions I'll try and limit your time just depending on

[0:29:30] Trustee McConchie (probable): if you know how it's going kind of five but I'd like to keep this as informal as Islanders can be

[0:29:36] Trustee McConchie (probable): in this meeting so with that I see Kathy D's hand is up and it'd be great for the minutes

[0:29:43] Trustee McConchie (probable): we have a minute taker here I believe that's Lauren is it Lauren that's taking minutes yes

[0:29:49] Trustee McConchie (probable): Um, uh, if you could just identify who you are and, uh, whether or not you're from the

[0:29:55] Trustee McConchie (probable): island, that's, that's awesome as well.

[0:29:57] Trustee McConchie (probable): Um, and, uh, I'll start with Kathy D.

[0:30:00] Trustee McConchie (probable): and I'll go on to Dale Henning, and then after that, we'll keep going, and I'll keep taking

[0:30:04] Trustee McConchie (probable): names. So, Kathy, go ahead and please address any questions. Thank you.

[0:30:09] Voice 7: Hi, can you hear me?

[0:30:11] Trustee McConchie (probable): Certainly can, Kathy. Go ahead.

[0:30:13] Voice 7: Hi, it's Kathy Allenson from Pender.

[0:30:15] Voice 7: And forgive me, because I was out of the country for a bit, so this may have already been answered.

[0:30:21] Voice 7: I've brought it up at different times, email, etc. But I'll give just a quick example of my

[0:30:29] Voice 7: I concern about the 2,500 square feet situation? And I know Deb at the last meeting I was at at

[0:30:35] Voice 7: the church said that there would be a discussion on this. Now, in my own situation, which I have

[0:30:41] Voice 7: a house, which is grandfathered, so that seems no problem, but I have the ability to make a suite

[0:30:47] Voice 7: for my dad if he needed to come to stay with us. Now, my house is 1,800 square feet. However,

[0:30:53] Voice 7: However, I have 800 square feet of basement that is unusable because it's five, six feet.

[0:31:01] Voice 7: And under the building code, only anything over eight feet, anything five feet and over is considered square footage.

[0:31:09] Voice 7: So that takes basically all of that 800 off of my, you know, I can't build anything more from my 1800 square feet.

[0:31:18] Voice 7: So my issue is, is that 2500 square feet too low, because I'd have to have blasted to get a flat yard. So the question here is, I guess, is this kind of fair because I think it would impact a lot of people who want to do a suite or whatever and not realize that if they've got this basement that's unusable, because even the floor is unusable, it's not flat, that they cannot add on if they

[0:31:48] Voice 7: They've got a huge basement area.

[0:31:51] Voice 7: So the question is, is that going to be taken into consideration that it's only the square footage only includes things that are eight feet and over?

[0:32:01] Voice 7: Or can that square footage be raised given that, you know, some people have such big basements?

[0:32:08] Voice 7: So that's my question.

[0:32:10] Trustee McConchie (probable): Great.

[0:32:11] Trustee McConchie (probable): I'm wondering if you would like to address this first.

[0:32:14] Voice 8: Yeah, absolutely.

[0:32:15] Voice 8: Absolutely. So currently the land use bylaw number 224, as it's written right now, so 2,500, the maximum 2,500 square feet, it would include any area that's greater than five feet in height. So in your circumstance, it sounds like, I believe you said it was 1,800 square feet with your basement or without?

[0:32:41] Voice 8: out uh

[0:32:42] Voice 7: well it's 1800 square feet without the basement right yeah

[0:32:46] Voice 8: so and when you so this

[0:32:48] Voice 8: the maximum floor area would include the the basement calculation so in your circumstance

[0:32:55] Voice 8: um if you're if you're wanting to put in a secondary suite you would have to go through

[0:33:01] Voice 8: a development variance permit to vary the maximum floor area to increase um your floor area but as

[0:33:08] Voice 8: as it stands right now, floor area calculation does include basements. So it includes any story

[0:33:16] Voice 8: that has a floor and ceiling that's greater than five feet in height.

[0:33:22] Voice 7: Right. So I guess that's what I'm saying. Like, I guess I'm looking at the 2,500, like it would

[0:33:28] Voice 7: be a lot better in my circumstances that it was

[0:33:31] Voice 7: 3,000 if we're looking at those basement factors,

[0:33:34] Voice 7: contractors which a lot of people i know have brought up before that hey they you know that's

[0:33:40] Voice 7: the way it is because you're kind of penalized for having a you know a property that's sloped

[0:33:45] Voice 7: so uh in that regard so i guess going forward that's and i'll put that in writing too but i

[0:33:51] Voice 7: think then the 2500 square feet is too low too low this

[0:33:57] Trustee McConchie (probable): is an excellent point kathy uh that uh

[0:33:59] Trustee McConchie (probable): I need to discuss with my fellow trustees. I agree that, I mean, it's hard to picture all

[0:34:07] Trustee McConchie (probable): the circumstances that might arise from changing this bylaw. And that is an important circumstance.

[0:34:12] Trustee McConchie (probable): Certainly, we want to encourage folks to find ways, especially if they want to house a family

[0:34:20] Trustee McConchie (probable): member that's aging down below, and that should not impede their ability to do that. So that's a

[0:34:27] Trustee McConchie (probable): a very good point Kathy thanks for bringing that up is there another question you had

[0:34:30] Voice 7: nope that's

[0:34:31] Voice 7: great thank you okay

[0:34:33] Trustee McConchie (probable): thank you Kathy um I see also uh Dale uh Dale has uh his hand up good

[0:34:38] Trustee McConchie (probable): good evening Dale I'm

[0:34:46] Voice 4: unmuted can you hear me now you

[0:34:49] Trustee McConchie (probable): can't Dale go ahead

[0:34:49] Voice 4: um I'm a little confused

[0:34:52] Voice 4: by uh Kim's uh presentation especially when it came to the issue about uh helicopters and then

[0:34:59] Voice 4: making the statement that you want to enforce something about helipads and all that stuff.

[0:35:06] Voice 4: When the Islanders Trust has absolutely zero authority over that issue, why would you even

[0:35:11] Voice 4: bother to put it in other than it appears just to harass people that happen to have a helicopter?

[0:35:17] Voice 4: You even said yourself that you couldn't even enforce the bylaws. So why put it in? Seems like

[0:35:24] Voice 4: like a kind of a dumb thing to do.

[0:35:27] Voice 1: No question, Dale?

[0:35:30] Voice 4: Why is it included?

[0:35:32] Voice 4: Why are you talking about helicopters?

[0:35:35] Trustee McConchie (probable): Okay, well, to surmise, I can surmise if you want,

[0:35:38] Trustee McConchie (probable): I think, and Chair Patrick,

[0:35:40] Trustee McConchie (probable): feel free to chime in at this point.

[0:35:42] Trustee McConchie (probable): We've had a lot of correspondence

[0:35:46] Trustee McConchie (probable): regarding this particular issue.

[0:35:49] Trustee McConchie (probable): It's been, Planner Stockdale calls it a hot topic.

[0:35:53] Trustee McConchie (probable): And to say that it's a hot topic,

[0:35:55] Trustee McConchie (probable): I mean, it's like a huge topic. I can't avoid it anywhere, either jokes in the pub or whatever.

[0:36:02] Trustee McConchie (probable): And I mean, so from my perspective, Dale, I can only speak for myself and maybe Chair Patrick can speak for herself.

[0:36:10] Trustee McConchie (probable): I completely agree that the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that avionics should be ruled by the jurisdiction of avionics should be.

[0:36:19] Trustee McConchie (probable): I believe the case had to do with the Agricultural Land Reserve in British Columbia.

[0:36:22] Trustee McConchie (probable): There was concerns over affecting livestock or something like that. And the Supreme Court of Canada ruled in an overwhelming majority that the federal government ultimately has the final say on aeronautics. And local governments do not have a say. So you're correct. Federal government has jurisdictional authority over this.

[0:36:41] Trustee McConchie (probable): um now that said it there are many many folks in this community who um are very concerned

[0:36:50] Trustee McConchie (probable): about the development and planning of aeronautics in the gulf islands um the south pender does have

[0:36:59] Trustee McConchie (probable): this exact bylaw with regards to helipads uh it already exists is it enforceable no it's not

[0:37:06] Trustee McConchie (probable): on. However, what I do think is important is that we have this conversation in a public forum

[0:37:14] Trustee McConchie (probable): and trustees debate this issue. Why we are going to create a law that is not enforceable

[0:37:22] Trustee McConchie (probable): is a good one, Dale, that should be discussed between trustees. So what I'd like to do is take

[0:37:28] Trustee McConchie (probable): your question to my fellow trustees for public discussion and public debate. I think it's an

[0:37:34] Trustee McConchie (probable): It's an important one. That said, I will say the political point that I mean, I see low flying airplanes flying over top of the islands all the time.

[0:37:46] Trustee McConchie (probable): I see folks not flying flight paths. My father was an airline pilot. Right.

[0:37:50] Trustee McConchie (probable): And I know they're not following the flight paths. Helicopters are I get emails once a week about not the helipad.

[0:37:59] Trustee McConchie (probable): Had we're talking about that one issue on Tranquil Mallee, I'm talking about the helijet helicopters that fly over top.

[0:38:04] Trustee McConchie (probable): I mean, the question really is, what is the future of avionics in the Gulf Islands, right?

[0:38:11] Trustee McConchie (probable): Is the local government just going to say, whatever, let's let the Ministry of Transportation deal with this?

[0:38:18] Trustee McConchie (probable): Or should local governments actually have a say over this type of thing, especially if it pertains to environment?

[0:38:26] Trustee McConchie (probable): environment and so now now these are i'm not i'm i know we can turn this into a debate but i'm just

[0:38:32] Trustee McConchie (probable): letting you know this is from my understanding the the crux of a lot of the issues we've discussed

[0:38:37] Trustee McConchie (probable): whether or not this bylaw goes through will be up to or this this particular law

[0:38:41] Trustee McConchie (probable): will be up to

[0:38:42] Trustee McConchie (probable): what trustee morrison and chair patrick think don't you

[0:38:45] Trustee McConchie (probable): yeah you

[0:38:48] Voice 4: know i i um i guess it's one

[0:38:52] Voice 4: one of those things that, you know, when we have issues with housing, rental housing, we have

[0:38:59] Voice 4: issues with employment, we have issues with BC ferries. I mean, let's give your head a shake

[0:39:06] Voice 4: there. I mean, let's face it. I mean, I've had a pilot's license, I don't know, for the last

[0:39:12] Voice 4: 40 years. And I've always flown out of Vancouver, Pitt Meadows, Victoria, that sort of thing.

[0:39:19] Voice 4: um you know it's one of those things aviation is an absolute part of west coast living you've got

[0:39:30] Voice 4: float planes and all kinds of people rely on float planes float planes make a lot of noise but they

[0:39:36] Voice 4: also transport a lot of people they you know they're they're an essential part of commerce

[0:39:42] Voice 4: farmers, tourism, medical, all kinds of things. And, you know, to even, I mean, I shake my head

[0:39:52] Voice 4: and I think, you know, the Islands Trust has been criticized many times for spending huge amounts

[0:39:59] Voice 4: of money on silly projects. And this certainly, in my mind, falls under the silly project category.

[0:40:06] Voice 4: I mean, how many people are really going to build a helipad? You have one guy who happened to own a helicopter company. He retires. He, you know, he is fortunate enough to be able to afford a helicopter. Maybe he went about things the wrong way, you know.

[0:40:24] Voice 4: But on the other hand, you can't limit what heli-jet are doing.

[0:40:29] Voice 4: They fly back and forth.

[0:40:32] Voice 4: Aircraft fly high, low, all the other stuff that goes along with it.

[0:40:37] Voice 4: It's just

[0:40:38] Voice 4: something you have to live with.

[0:40:40] Voice 4: And that's all.

[0:40:41] Trustee McConchie (probable): Dale, and I thank you for sharing your opinion.

[0:40:44] Trustee McConchie (probable): I just have to reiterate, like, as a public servant, my job is to represent all views.

[0:40:49] Trustee McConchie (probable): views i will say i've not received one single correspondence with your opinion or that opinion

[0:40:56] Trustee McConchie (probable): that you're articulating to south island at islandstrust.bc.ca however we have received

[0:41:03] Trustee McConchie (probable): numerous correspondence indicating a very well organized correspondence indicating that we should

[0:41:09] Trustee McConchie (probable): pursue this despite it not being able to to um be upheld so we are at the point where we are

[0:41:16] Trustee McConchie (probable): are listening to folks right now uh and i think the conversation needs to be had and i so i

[0:41:21] Trustee McConchie (probable): appreciate you bringing it up and and you're not in you're not i'm not saying your opinion is right

[0:41:25] Trustee McConchie (probable): or wrong right now uh but we are we need to discuss this at a public and

[0:41:29] Voice 4: and i can and i can

[0:41:31] Voice 4: i can probably point out to you the reason why you're not hearing a lot of it from people like

[0:41:36] Voice 4: me because you turn around and you really have to laugh at it and think boy this is a total waste

[0:41:41] Voice 4: Why would they ever bother doing it? And so, you know, you're going to get a bunch

[0:41:45] Voice 4: of people whining and complain about, they're going to get a bunch of people whining and complain about it. And you're listening to all of them. And anyway, go ahead, do what

[0:41:57] Trustee McConchie (probable): you got to do.

[0:41:58] Trustee McConchie (probable): Dale, thank you. Thank you for your feedback. I don't consider any comments from constituents to be whining or complaining. I take everyone's opinion into account, just like I take your opinion into account. I would recommend that you write the local trust committee. This is an important issue. And it's one that's very divisive in the community. And it's certainly one that I do not want to see make everyone pit against each other like it's been done.

[0:42:25] Trustee McConchie (probable): So I hear you, Dale, and I appreciate your opinion.

[0:42:27] Trustee McConchie (probable): I'm wondering if you have any other questions regarding the land use bylaw review before

[0:42:31] Trustee McConchie (probable): we move on to any other questions.

[0:42:33] Voice 4: Yes, I do have one question, and that is relating to the property behind the driftwood.

[0:42:42] Voice 4: A number of years ago, that was proposed for seniors housing and rental housing, and it

[0:42:48] Voice 4: seemed to take forever.

[0:42:49] Voice 4: And it's one of those things where I think if the Islands Trust are really going to get back in the good favors of a lot of people, they would probably be a very wise thing to take a close look at putting together more rental housing and other issues relating to housing.

[0:43:17] Voice 4: so that people that are coming to live here

[0:43:20] Voice 4: will be able to find a place to rent and work

[0:43:23] Voice 4: and that sort of thing.

[0:43:26] Voice 4: So anyway, thank you very much.

[0:43:28] Voice 4: I appreciate your time.

[0:43:29] Trustee McConchie (probable): Thanks, Bill.

[0:43:30] Trustee McConchie (probable): Your comments will be taken into consideration

[0:43:32] Trustee McConchie (probable): by the local trust committee.

[0:43:33] Trustee McConchie (probable): I really appreciate you taking the time

[0:43:34] Trustee McConchie (probable): to attend and ask questions.

[0:43:36] Voice 4: Thank you.

[0:43:37] Trustee McConchie (probable): Now, I'm wondering if there's any other questions.

[0:43:40] Trustee McConchie (probable): We have many attendees.

[0:43:41] Trustee McConchie (probable): This is your opportunity to ask questions

[0:43:43] Trustee McConchie (probable): to Planner Stockville regarding this.

[0:43:45] Trustee McConchie (probable): or otherwise if there are no further questions or any clarification that the meeting will be

[0:43:52] Trustee McConchie (probable): adjourned this is an opportunity for you uh to uh share uh ask any question regarding

[0:43:57] Trustee McConchie (probable): uh especially the hot topics um and yes it is important to write a letter to the local trust

[0:44:05] Trustee McConchie (probable): committee i'm wondering planner stock deal if you can explain that um uh the importance of

[0:44:12] Trustee McConchie (probable): of not just writing on Facebook, but actually like how does the government take into account

[0:44:16] Trustee McConchie (probable): an email or a letter?

[0:44:17] Voice 8: Yes. So it's important that you do actually write a letter, including

[0:44:22] Voice 8: that or sending it to southinfo at islandstress.bc.ca in order for staff to actually

[0:44:29] Voice 8: make sure that your comments become part of the public record. So not only would it be posted to

[0:44:36] Voice 8: the website for this project it would also be included if there is a public hearing your

[0:44:41] Voice 8: correspondence will be included in that public hearing binder and all correspondence received

[0:44:47] Voice 8: is also sent to the ltc so each trustee has an opportunity to to read your comments so it's

[0:44:54] Voice 8: really important instead of posting on facebook that you send those comments

[0:44:59] Voice 8: by email or by letter to the islands trust and using that email address

[0:45:03] Voice 8: us.

[0:45:06] Trustee McConchie (probable): Okay, thanks Planner Stockdale. It's also important to note for trustees that is that is

[0:45:11] Trustee McConchie (probable): one one component of how we gather information. It is an official information that's subject to

[0:45:17] Trustee McConchie (probable): freedom of information requests. So it is part of the public record. Okay, I'm just there's not

[0:45:23] Trustee McConchie (probable): very many questions. And I guess maybe you've done such a good job Planner Stockdale. I see

[0:45:28] Trustee McConchie (probable): Dale's hand has gone up again. And Dale, would you like to address or have any other questions

[0:45:34] Trustee McConchie (probable): regarding this uh presentation go ahead uh

[0:45:37] Voice 4: yeah uh yes the only other question i have is how many

[0:45:40] Voice 4: people are attending this evening you've never mentioned that and i would just be curious

[0:45:45] Trustee McConchie (probable): thank

[0:45:46] Trustee McConchie (probable): you uh well in attendees we have 17 folks and then uh i don't know how many people are watching the

[0:45:53] Trustee McConchie (probable): live stream by our sector yeah

[0:45:54] Voice 8: no i don't think we have the numbers for how many people are live

[0:45:57] Voice 8: streaming it um this is also going to be it is recorded and it'll be posted to the website

[0:46:01] Voice 8: site um yeah so we have 17 in in attendance right now and i'm sure numerous more watching

[0:46:09] Voice 8: through the live stream okay

[0:46:12] Voice 1: thank you great

[0:46:15] Trustee McConchie (probable): well um i'm just curious to know if there's anybody in

[0:46:18] Trustee McConchie (probable): the the the list uh of of folks that would like to have any questions uh regarding or maybe chair

[0:46:25] Trustee McConchie (probable): patrick do you have any comments um regarding the presentation or any questions that you have

[0:46:28] Trustee McConchie (probable): the players talk to.

[0:46:31] Voice 9: I know I'm here listening. I'm trying to log into Zoom and I'm being rejected

[0:46:35] Voice 9: for whatever reason. I don't know what's going on, but

[0:46:38] Voice 9: I'm listening and have been listening

[0:46:39] Voice 9: for the whole time. And no, I thought Kim, your presentation, I thought was thorough and

[0:46:44] Voice 9: gave a lot of information. And yeah, this is about listening to you and hearing what your

[0:46:49] Voice 9: concerns are. And I know this, I'm very proud of Ben and

[0:46:53] Voice 9: Deb that they want to hear your comments

[0:46:57] Voice 9: and take them carefully into consideration.

[0:46:59] Voice 9: So thank you.

[0:47:01] Trustee McConchie (probable): Great. Thanks, Chair Patrick.

[0:47:03] Trustee McConchie (probable): So I'm wondering if there's anyone on our attendees list

[0:47:07] Trustee McConchie (probable): that has any other questions for planner stock deal.

[0:47:10] Trustee McConchie (probable): Just to go over some of the issues that we've discussed

[0:47:12] Trustee McConchie (probable): and require clarification,

[0:47:15] Trustee McConchie (probable): we are discussing implementing or creating a bylaw

[0:47:18] Trustee McConchie (probable): because there is no existing bylaw really

[0:47:20] Trustee McConchie (probable): that is sort of reasonable for a maximum square footage.

[0:47:25] Trustee McConchie (probable): There's also the hot topics of helicopters, which are wonderfully a colourful debate that we've been having for a number of years now.

[0:47:34] Trustee McConchie (probable): And other hot topics include the proposed rezonings.

[0:47:38] Trustee McConchie (probable): If there's any clarification regarding that, there's very technical information regarding that that may be needed to be clarified.

[0:47:46] Trustee McConchie (probable): I'll go on, but I see Sarah has a question.

[0:47:50] Trustee McConchie (probable): And I see that you have a question. I'll try to get to you as well in one sec.

[0:47:55] Trustee McConchie (probable): so sarah go ahead this sarah miles oh hang

[0:47:59] Voice 10: on can you hear me yes

[0:48:01] Voice 1: we can hear you sarah please

[0:48:02] Voice 1: go ahead i'm

[0:48:04] Voice 10: noticing in the most recent staff report that you it was carried a motion to

[0:48:13] Voice 10: incorporate the groundwater sustainability project draft land use bylaw regulations into the draft

[0:48:20] Voice 10: bylaw number 224 um i will go and read it but is there any sort of summary available of what

[0:48:27] Voice 10: that means yes

[0:48:31] Voice 1: thank

[0:48:33] Voice 8: you sarah that is actually a fabulous question and one item that i missed

[0:48:38] Voice 8: in my presentation so i will include that for july 28th so there are three items of the groundwater

[0:48:44] Voice 8: water project that we incorporated into this project one is adding some definitions to bylaw

[0:48:51] Voice 8: 224 related to groundwater another is a requirement for cisterns for the when constructing a dwelling

[0:49:01] Voice 8: unit and the third is updating the subdivision regulations which have been reviewed by our

[0:49:08] Voice 8: senior groundwater technologist technologist not sure if that's the right word um um so there's

[0:49:17] Voice 8: it's those three items um that have been incorporated into bylaw 224 okay that's helpful

[0:49:23] Voice 10: thank you so much kim you're welcome okay

[0:49:27] Trustee McConchie (probable): thanks sir um i see elizabeth uh i'm sorry elizabeth i'm

[0:49:31] Trustee McConchie (probable): not sure how to pronounce your last name elizabeth botman or boltman apologize hi elizabeth good

[0:49:40] Trustee McConchie (probable): evening okay

[0:49:41] Voice 6: hi I'm I'm coming to this rather late in the day totally

[0:49:49] Voice 6: irrelevant I when we bought our place about 10 12 years ago it was it was

[0:49:56] Voice 6: freshly zoned as sensitive ecosystem and so I don't see that mentioned here and

[0:50:05] Voice 6: does the any of this proposed zoning change the category that were under

[0:50:10] Voice 6: under sensitive ecosystem, which had a whole lot of rules.

[0:50:13] Voice 6: If

[0:50:15] Voice 8: I may take this one, yeah, Elizabeth,

[0:50:18] Voice 8: also a good question.

[0:50:19] Voice 8: I would imagine, I believe that you're referring

[0:50:22] Voice 8: to the sensitive ecosystem mapping

[0:50:25] Voice 8: and development permit areas were actually established

[0:50:30] Voice 8: based on this mapping.

[0:50:31] Voice 8: So those are actually a part of the official community plan

[0:50:34] Voice 8: and this project doesn't dive into the topic

[0:50:40] Voice 8: of development permit areas. So to answer your question, no, this project doesn't

[0:50:47] Voice 8: deal with that. But if you have questions about sensitive ecosystem and development permit areas,

[0:50:53] Voice 8: feel free to give me a call and I can walk you through that.

[0:50:58] Voice 6: Sure. So I because I thought maybe

[0:51:02] Voice 6: by being RR2 that now made me more ordinary and less subject to that. But yes, I could phone you.

[0:51:08] Voice 6: The other thing was my property is 0.8 hectares, so it's not entitled to a cottage.

[0:51:19] Voice 6: But I always had been led to believe that subject to the ecosystem, you could have a 10 by 10 foot outbuilding or something, you know, utility.

[0:51:30] Voice 6: I don't see that category mentioned.

[0:51:33] Voice 6: Yeah, absolutely.

[0:51:34] Voice 8: Absolutely. So for any zone you're able to have accessory uses and those could be sheds or detached garages, and those are permitted permitted in your zone as long as you meet the setback in height requirements, and if you are thinking of constructing

[0:51:52] Voice 8: a shed within a development permit area then you may require a development permit of approval but

[0:51:58] Voice 8: you are permitted your accessory buildings on your on your property as long as well with your

[0:52:04] Voice 8: dwelling unit yeah and

[0:52:06] Voice 6: I did I did read a whole lot of your stuff so what's the difference between

[0:52:09] Voice 6: three meters from a side interior lot line or 4.5 meters exterior side lot line also great question

[0:52:18] Voice 6: really what does that mean yeah

[0:52:20] Voice 8: absolutely so um an exterior side lot line that's when a lot

[0:52:26] Voice 8: line abuts a road or a road dedication and your interior side lot line is when it abuts another

[0:52:33] Voice 8: property and those definitions yeah those definitions um for those two lot lines actually

[0:52:40] Voice 8: are included in the very beginning of the land use bylaw i believe it's actually under the

[0:52:45] Voice 8: the definition of lot line so you can take a

[0:52:47] Voice 6: peek sorry sorry i know there were pages and pages and

[0:52:49] Voice 6: pages no

[0:52:50] Voice 8: that's okay great question so the

[0:52:51] Voice 6: outbuilding the outbuilding would have to fall

[0:52:54] Voice 6: within three meters from the side neighbor's lot line yes and then be approved by you guys okay

[0:53:00] Voice 6: thank you very much great

[0:53:03] Trustee McConchie (probable): thanks elizabeth those are great questions really appreciate you taking

[0:53:06] Trustee McConchie (probable): the time to ask those uh tech and getting into the technical aspects of it as well um uh sarah

[0:53:13] Trustee McConchie (probable): you have another question please go ahead did

[0:53:22] Voice 1: we lose you Sarah I

[0:53:23] Trustee McConchie (probable): think we lost Sarah um Kim I'm

[0:53:26] Trustee McConchie (probable): our planner start to excuse me I'm wondering if uh you can just explain how I uh explain to folks

[0:53:31] Trustee McConchie (probable): at the pub uh what the advantage is for folks in Trancomalee and in Magic Lake to have different

[0:53:38] Trustee McConchie (probable): zoning from the rest of the island is there and what the major differences are how would you

[0:53:44] Trustee McConchie (probable): explain that simply to folks because that's something that was on my mind uh during your

[0:53:49] Trustee McConchie (probable): presentation yeah

[0:53:51] Voice 8: yeah so um currently right now a rural residential zoning that's applicable to

[0:53:58] Voice 8: magic lake trincomalee and a majority of other smaller lots um on north pender and so this new

[0:54:07] Voice 8: rural residential one zone for magic lake and trincomalee um the one benefit or um it will

[0:54:17] Voice 8: Well, not benefit, but one different aspect from the rural residential two zone is you can't have that agriculture use as a principal permitted use.

[0:54:26] Voice 8: So this rural residential one zone, what it really is dedicated for is the small lot residential zone.

[0:54:33] Voice 8: own um so that would be the main difference and that would be the benefit is in these communities

[0:54:39] Voice 8: in magic lake and trickle alley you know your neighbor is going to have a generally a small lot

[0:54:46] Voice 8: with one dwelling unit and of course water is also not only a concern on throughout the island

[0:54:53] Voice 8: but certainly in these areas as well great

[0:54:58] Trustee McConchie (probable): thanks for explaining that planner stock bill um i hope

[0:55:03] Voice 8: hope i did a good job i

[0:55:04] Trustee McConchie (probable): think we we heard from uh the agricultural advisory planning commission

[0:55:09] Trustee McConchie (probable): which was chaired by barb johnston grimmer uh george larue who is the vice chair uh expressed

[0:55:15] Trustee McConchie (probable): um you know the opinion that you know magic lake and shrink amali are totally different

[0:55:20] Trustee McConchie (probable): uh parts of the island relative to folks that are living in rural parts that more rural parts

[0:55:24] Trustee McConchie (probable): of the island and that uh there should be a difference noted in the zoning regulations so

[0:55:30] Trustee McConchie (probable): So we were responding to the hard work

[0:55:32] Trustee McConchie (probable): of our volunteer advisory planning commission.

[0:55:35] Trustee McConchie (probable): This wasn't just something we just kind of made up

[0:55:37] Trustee McConchie (probable): in our heads.

[0:55:39] Trustee McConchie (probable): And also given the demands

[0:55:41] Trustee McConchie (probable): from the Magic Lake Property Owners Association,

[0:55:44] Trustee McConchie (probable): they voted in favor of incorporation

[0:55:47] Trustee McConchie (probable): or voting to, excuse me, to investigate incorporation.

[0:55:52] Trustee McConchie (probable): My hope is that this new zoning will at least address

[0:55:56] Trustee McConchie (probable): some of the concerns

[0:55:57] Trustee McConchie (probable): of the Magic Lake Property Owners Association.

[0:56:00] Trustee McConchie (probable): uh and i look forward to hearing from them uh regarding this and i see chair patrick uh would

[0:56:04] Trustee McConchie (probable): you like to take over the meeting i hope i'm doing an adequate job of of sharing the meeting here

[0:56:12] Trustee McConchie (probable): one second okay sure uh well with that elizabeth you have another question is you're just your hand

[0:56:17] Trustee McConchie (probable): up just because you forgot to put your hand down i think perhaps um yeah great uh now we've got an

[0:56:24] Trustee McConchie (probable): opportunity uh this meeting is scheduled till 8 30. so once again this is a chance uh for you to

[0:56:29] Trustee McConchie (probable): to ask questions to the local trust committee.

[0:56:32] Trustee McConchie (probable): I certainly don't want to end the meeting

[0:56:34] Trustee McConchie (probable): without folks feeling well informed.

[0:56:37] Trustee McConchie (probable): So I'm all ears if there's any more questions

[0:56:40] Trustee McConchie (probable): regarding any issue to do with our land use bylaw review.

[0:56:52] Trustee McConchie (probable): So Chair Patrick, I'm just wondering

[0:56:54] Trustee McConchie (probable): if it seems like everyone is very well informed

[0:56:56] Trustee McConchie (probable): and Planner Stockdale seems to have done her job

[0:56:59] Trustee McConchie (probable): outstandingly well, and there's no curiosity

[0:57:02] Trustee McConchie (probable): from fellow Islanders.

[0:57:04] Trustee McConchie (probable): there'll

[0:57:05] Voice 8: be more opportunities as well like we mentioned thursday july 28th at 10 a.m another

[0:57:11] Voice 8: zoom meeting just like this and then the in-person meeting on august 13th uh saturday 11 a.m at the

[0:57:18] Voice 8: anglican hall i really hope that everybody can make it out for that and we can have a great

[0:57:24] Voice 8: one-on-one and in group chat and get some great comments from from all of you so hope everybody

[0:57:31] Voice 8: everybody can make it out to that meeting okay

[0:57:32] Trustee McConchie (probable): so yeah I've got I've just got a question from

[0:57:34] Trustee McConchie (probable): somebody that from Ann Burdette who was not able to get online and I hope it's okay if I read this

[0:57:40] Trustee McConchie (probable): out um she she's just wanting to ask a question she wasn't able to to become an attendee for

[0:57:46] Trustee McConchie (probable): whatever reason um so she's saying that the difficulty in reading and finding the different

[0:57:50] Trustee McConchie (probable): changes in the uh the land use bylaw review uh is she's concerns over the island stress website and

[0:57:56] Trustee McConchie (probable): its layout of of how it's laid out it's it's too complicated for residents to find out uh what

[0:58:02] Trustee McConchie (probable): exactly is going on um and i i completely understand and uh that and we've heard lots

[0:58:09] Trustee McConchie (probable): of feedback regarding the website that's been brought up i believe chair patrick had trust

[0:58:13] Trustee McConchie (probable): counsel and uh i'm not actually currently aware of where we're at with making more changes or

[0:58:21] Trustee McConchie (probable): making the website a little uh easier for folks to find documents but we've had we have heard that

[0:58:25] Trustee McConchie (probable): feedback and that's a very good point um maybe uh planner stock deal if folks are watching this for

[0:58:31] Trustee McConchie (probable): the first time i'm wondering if you could share that screenshot again of where on the website

[0:58:37] Trustee McConchie (probable): currently because the website's not going to change right now is where on the website can you

[0:58:43] Trustee McConchie (probable): find all like there's all these great discussion papers that i mean even for the common islander

[0:58:48] Trustee McConchie (probable): who isn't involved in politics it's super interesting stuff like the planners actually

[0:58:53] Trustee McConchie (probable): actually have done a good job of, of outlining some, some professional concerns that they have.

[0:58:58] Trustee McConchie (probable): Those are cute kids, by the way. Very

[0:59:00] Trustee McConchie (probable): adorable. Well done. And, and sorry to put you on the spot

[0:59:05] Trustee McConchie (probable): here, Flannery Stockdale, but so you go to this website, this is great. So you're on the website

[0:59:09] Trustee McConchie (probable): with the whales jumping and the islands bouncing in front of you. Go

[0:59:14] Trustee McConchie (probable): ahead. Sorry. Yeah. And I

[0:59:18] Voice 8: I should premise this with saying we staff members also share in your frustration, we're really

[0:59:24] Voice 8: limited with what information and what we can do with the website. So we wish we can make different

[0:59:31] Voice 8: amendments to it or changes. But unfortunately, we're not given much ability to do that. So any

[0:59:37] Voice 8: comments you have, please let us know to in order to make it easier for you. So this is a North

[0:59:42] Voice 8: page landing site where you can find meeting minutes, the bylaws, so the OCP and land use

[0:59:49] Voice 8: bylaw, applications, and it's the projects that you want to find or click on. So when you go to

[0:59:54] Voice 8: the projects website, this is where you'll see the top priorities.

[1:00:00] Voice 8: the LTC and I'm going to scroll down this is where you get to the land use bylaw review

[1:00:06] Voice 8: so it's a drop down menu so when you click on an item the folder will open and then you can

[1:00:13] Voice 8: click on the item this also lists all the staff reports to date and the discussion papers as

[1:00:20] Voice 8: trustee McConkey mentioned if you click on discussion papers those are there I also wanted

[1:00:26] Voice 8: wanted to point out that our other Zoom CIMs are also here too. All the PowerPoint presentations,

[1:00:36] Voice 8: your correspondence received to date, the proposed bylaws, and at the very bottom under

[1:00:42] Voice 8: other information, it's worth clicking on. There's a whole lot of other draft versions of the LUB.

[1:00:49] Voice 8: We have a legal opinion for the helicopters, an FAQ for legal non-conforming. So a lot of

[1:00:56] Voice 8: great information that unfortunately is slightly hidden on the website. It just takes a lot of

[1:01:01] Voice 8: poking around.

[1:01:03] Trustee McConchie (probable): Super helpful to go through that. I'll mention folks to watch this recording about

[1:01:07] Trustee McConchie (probable): how to find that information. Great. Also, I just want to keep mentioning, Amber mentions that

[1:01:14] Trustee McConchie (probable): she expressed she is expressing concern. The question is, how can trustees confidently move

[1:01:19] Trustee McConchie (probable): forward with these changes? And there's also concern that Planner Stockdale has stated that

[1:01:25] Trustee McConchie (probable): an old building under 100 square feet is allowed in any zone and yet she's expressing concern that

[1:01:32] Trustee McConchie (probable): she has bylaw enforcement stating uh otherwise so i'm not sure there there needs to be some

[1:01:38] Trustee McConchie (probable): clarification uh from that is there any response to that uh planner stockdale and i'll respond to

[1:01:43] Trustee McConchie (probable): how to how can trustees confidently move forward

[1:01:45] Voice 8: yeah and i don't know um anne's particular

[1:01:49] Voice 8: situation but currently the land use bylaw doesn't allow you to construct a an outbuilding so

[1:01:55] Voice 8: So something that's less than 100 square feet on your bare land.

[1:02:00] Voice 8: So currently, right now, you couldn't do that.

[1:02:02] Voice 8: But as I mentioned, proposed bylaw 224 would allow you to do that if the bylaw is adopted.

[1:02:08] Voice 8: But Anne, if you have particular questions regarding one of your properties, you feel

[1:02:12] Voice 8: free to give me a call and we can chat about it.

[1:02:15] Trustee McConchie (probable): The other question that Anne, thanks by the way, Dr. Dill asked was how can trustees

[1:02:19] Trustee McConchie (probable): confidently move forward with these changes?

[1:02:22] Trustee McConchie (probable): I mean, that's a political question, right?

[1:02:24] Trustee McConchie (probable): I don't I'm not sure chair Patrick do you want to address that or do I because I'm happy to

[1:02:28] Trustee McConchie (probable): address that as well we can't hear you planner stock deal unfortunately like

[1:02:39] Voice 11: working yeah it is

[1:02:41] Voice 1: now

[1:02:41] Voice 11: sorry chair Patrick

[1:02:58] Trustee McConchie (probable): it's it's impossible to hear you but I think you're saying we've been

[1:03:02] Trustee McConchie (probable): been doing this for a long time long time being three and a half years right um if if you want

[1:03:08] Trustee McConchie (probable): to go on that's your main point um i mean i guess my my response uh would be like tell me what's the

[1:03:18] Trustee McConchie (probable): problem like like what's so how do we move forward confidently okay with what like here

[1:03:25] Trustee McConchie (probable): press this is your chance to say like we're we've analyzed this we've got a professional plan

[1:03:31] Trustee McConchie (probable): analyzed it. We've debated it in public for like basically three years of my life, right? And our

[1:03:37] Trustee McConchie (probable): lives. Now, what specifically is the problem with us moving confidently? As far as confidence goes,

[1:03:44] Trustee McConchie (probable): here's my argument in favor of confidence. Never have trustees been more on the spot in their

[1:03:50] Trustee McConchie (probable): lives. Look, we're being recorded right now. I don't remember Gary Steeves and Ken Hancock being

[1:03:55] Trustee McConchie (probable): recorded right everything is extremely transparent now you you like we've had non-stop meetings via

[1:04:04] Trustee McConchie (probable): zoom since before the pandemic regarding this right i even tried to get facebook live to uh

[1:04:11] Trustee McConchie (probable): film meetings right so am i confident we've been consulting with the public yes i am extremely

[1:04:16] Trustee McConchie (probable): confident with these proposed changes and um there are some that i have of course that i have not

[1:04:23] Trustee McConchie (probable): made my mind up about and neither have any of our trustees this is why we take this opportunity

[1:04:27] Trustee McConchie (probable): to hear from you but i need to hear specifics in order to address them rather than generalizations

[1:04:34] Trustee McConchie (probable): right so if you have something specific that really helps us and there's been that's in fact

[1:04:39] Trustee McConchie (probable): the most helpful comments regarding this land use bylaw review were the folks that really took the

[1:04:44] Trustee McConchie (probable): time to address specific uh problems and and what is the logic behind this and then we have actually

[1:04:51] Trustee McConchie (probable): altered many of our uh much of our direction regarding this as a result of that so um i know

[1:04:58] Trustee McConchie (probable): that there are folks out there that uh think we should put everything off until the end of the

[1:05:02] Trustee McConchie (probable): election this bylaw as according to plan or stock deal it won't necessarily get approved until after

[1:05:09] Trustee McConchie (probable): the election so that's that's off the hook it's all done now i i this this local trust committee

[1:05:14] Trustee McConchie (probable): could have easily pushed this through faster but we slowed the process down we took the time how

[1:05:21] Trustee McConchie (probable): How many community information meetings is this, Kim, a planner's talk?

[1:05:24] Trustee McConchie (probable): This is like our 20th, like 12th or something, right?

[1:05:28] Trustee McConchie (probable): Because we heard from you guys that you were worried that people weren't getting the proper

[1:05:33] Trustee McConchie (probable): information.

[1:05:33] Trustee McConchie (probable): Well, I ask you, right, at what point do we say, does a public official say we have to

[1:05:41] Trustee McConchie (probable): make a decision?

[1:05:43] Trustee McConchie (probable): At what point?

[1:05:44] Trustee McConchie (probable): How much consultation needs to take place?

[1:05:47] Trustee McConchie (probable): And for me, you asked me if I feel confident.

[1:05:49] Trustee McConchie (probable): I feel extremely confident that we've taken every effort to be open and transparent and to listen to Islanders' concerns, which is why we're even having two community information meetings in July, right?

[1:05:59] Trustee McConchie (probable): We're having one right now.

[1:06:01] Trustee McConchie (probable): And it's something I take very, very seriously.

[1:06:04] Trustee McConchie (probable): So I do feel confident, and I do want to hear from your specifics.

[1:06:07] Trustee McConchie (probable): So sorry for the long political answer, but I needed to address that.

[1:06:12] Trustee McConchie (probable): that um if it's okay uh uh chair patrick i'm gonna let uh don donald grimmer uh address the

[1:06:19] Trustee McConchie (probable): local trust committee donald or isaac i'm not i'm not sure who this is this can

[1:06:24] Voice 11: you hear me now

[1:06:25] Voice 11: yeah

[1:06:26] Trustee McConchie (probable): kind of yeah it's a little blurry it's all good yeah it's better than it was before

[1:06:30] Trustee McConchie (probable): so can we um have um donald grimmer come to the uh ask the questions uh to the local trust

[1:06:38] Trustee McConchie (probable): me go ahead good evening hey

[1:06:41] Voice 3: i just uh i just want to ask like like why is outbuildings uh not

[1:06:47] Voice 3: allowed to be built on bare land like just like a simple why say

[1:06:53] Trustee McConchie (probable): that again please sorry

[1:06:54] Voice 3: uh like

[1:06:55] Voice 3: why can't uh small outbuildings that usually with the crd uh you wouldn't even need to think about

[1:07:02] Voice 3: a building permit why would you why aren't you not allowed to build small simple outbuildings

[1:07:11] Trustee McConchie (probable): i think i understand the question planner stockdale do you want to take this

[1:07:16] Voice 8: why well i mean currently right now the land use bylaw just doesn't allow you to do it i mean

[1:07:21] Voice 8: i don't know the if there was ever a political i think this is you know more of a historical

[1:07:27] Voice 8: thing that it never outright was permitted and it's just one of those things that we you know

[1:07:33] Voice 8: it's an obvious thing that we need to support so that's why we're amending the bylaw um to allow

[1:07:39] Voice 8: But really, the principle behind it is that the principle use, the dwelling, should be on the land prior to any accessory uses, right?

[1:07:51] Voice 8: Because if you put a shed on your property, it's accessory to what?

[1:07:56] Voice 8: The dwelling's actually not established.

[1:07:58] Voice 8: So that's kind of like the theory or principle behind it.

[1:08:01] Voice 8: But we understand, you know, it just doesn't work.

[1:08:05] Voice 8: And that's why the LDC is making this amendment.

[1:08:09] Trustee McConchie (probable): Does that ask you a question? You're asking like a historical question?

[1:08:13] Voice 3: It kind of makes sense, but it kind of doesn't.

[1:08:16] Voice 3: You would think that there's many uses that you would just, if you don't need,

[1:08:20] Voice 3: I don't know, people should probably be able to do what they want with the land

[1:08:25] Voice 3: so that they have an accessory for another use.

[1:08:28] Trustee McConchie (probable): Yeah, that answer is fine.

[1:08:32] Trustee McConchie (probable): No, but it's a good point. Like historically, what was the purpose before?

[1:08:35] Trustee McConchie (probable): I'm not sure. I mean, like your mom might know that history.

[1:08:39] Trustee McConchie (probable): That's a good question.

[1:08:42] Trustee McConchie (probable): um is is there but uh the the local trust committee is addressing that uh concern i guess

[1:08:48] Trustee McConchie (probable): is the point right it's a it's a good point so i appreciate you asking that um not sure about the

[1:08:53] Trustee McConchie (probable): history but it's worth it's worth uh investigating i i certainly can talk to barb i'm wondering if

[1:08:58] Trustee McConchie (probable): she would know the history of that um okay uh kathy you have another question unless uh you're

[1:09:03] Trustee McConchie (probable): all done donald i'm

[1:09:07] Voice 3: done okay

[1:09:08] Trustee McConchie (probable): thanks very much for asking appreciate you coming today uh kathy d

[1:09:13] Trustee McConchie (probable): you have another question go ahead um

[1:09:16] Voice 7: yes just a quick question uh with regards to the website

[1:09:19] Voice 7: again um is that you know how um the trustees emails are on the website but i found it a hard

[1:09:27] Voice 7: like for for people when you want to do it for the staff i can't find where it says the south

[1:09:33] Voice 7: island for the staff on the website so maybe it's just me or could you sort of direct me where that

[1:09:42] Voice 7: would be on the website uh

[1:09:43] Voice 8: yeah i am kathy we used to have um all staff um names and email addresses

[1:09:50] Voice 8: on the website but when the website was updated they removed that and then put up generic email

[1:09:56] Voice 8: addresses so i can quickly share my screen and show you where those are currently on the website

[1:10:03] Voice 8: um bear with me for one moment here as i share my screen again so i'm back on the island's trust

[1:10:10] Voice 8: website if you go up to contact us okay

[1:10:15] Voice 7: contact

[1:10:16] Voice 8: staff right

[1:10:18] Voice 7: this

[1:10:21] Voice 8: is where if you go down to local

[1:10:23] Voice 8: planning services you'll see these generic email addresses so before it would have kim stockdale

[1:10:31] Voice 8: my email address and my direct phone number but they changed the way they wanted to do things

[1:10:37] Voice 8: So now you have this generic email address, um, and also the, the phone number to the front, uh,

[1:10:43] Voice 8: front office. But if you do send emails to the North Pender Planner, um, they come straight to

[1:10:49] Voice 8: me. So that's an easy way to get ahold of me.

[1:10:52] Voice 7: Okay. So that would be the sort of generic one

[1:10:55] Voice 7: to get. Okay. That's great. Thanks. You're welcome.

[1:10:59] Trustee McConchie (probable): Thanks, Kathy. That's a good point.

[1:11:02] Trustee McConchie (probable): Uh, staff are super helpful whenever I have a question even, uh, as well, and they're very

[1:11:06] Trustee McConchie (probable): responsive uh so um also okay so we're at quarter to eight and this meeting is scheduled to go until

[1:11:12] Trustee McConchie (probable): eight three i'm wondering if there are other questions um and see

[1:11:16] Voice 1: another hand okay awesome

[1:11:17] Voice 1: is this anne stevenson and good evening oh

[1:11:25] Voice 5: can you hear me

[1:11:26] Voice 1: yeah we can hear you sorry i just

[1:11:28] Voice 5: wanted to add what kathy was saying that was exactly what i wanted to ask was about it seems

[1:11:34] Voice 5: that every every meeting we have every town hall meeting we have there's a

[1:11:40] Voice 5: different email address that we're supposed to send information to it's

[1:11:44] Voice 5: extremely confusing for people if they're not familiar with the process

[1:11:48] Voice 5: how to contact people I mean we do send emails to trustee McConkie and trustee

[1:11:54] Voice 5: Morrison but if it's to go to anybody else it's it's different every time and

[1:12:00] Voice 5: I'm thinking oh I've never seen that email address before and I watched the

[1:12:04] Voice 5: these meetings so it's if we could put it right at the home page this is where you contact people

[1:12:11] Voice 5: that would be very helpful and then we

[1:12:13] Trustee McConchie (probable): can all send

[1:12:13] Voice 5: emails yeah

[1:12:15] Trustee McConchie (probable): great suggestion thank you okay

[1:12:17] Voice 5: so

[1:12:19] Trustee McConchie (probable): just to reiterate uh the email address is south info at islandstrust.bc.ca

[1:12:27] Trustee McConchie (probable): That email will go to all of the North Pender trustees, the staff.

[1:12:33] Trustee McConchie (probable): It's like, boom, we all read it every morning.

[1:12:36] Trustee McConchie (probable): I wake up, have my coffee, and I read those emails.

[1:12:40] Trustee McConchie (probable): So southinfo at islandstrust.bc.ca.

[1:12:44] Trustee McConchie (probable): Even if it's a little like, I don't like helicopters or I love helicopter pads, go away, hit send.

[1:12:51] Trustee McConchie (probable): That's great.

[1:12:52] Trustee McConchie (probable): That is a great way to communicate with us.

[1:12:55] Trustee McConchie (probable): I try to be as responsive as I can. Okay, Sarah, you got another question?

[1:13:03] Voice 10: Yes, thanks.

[1:13:04] Voice 1: Yeah, no problem.

[1:13:06] Voice 10: I'm wondering more questions about water here.

[1:13:10] Voice 10: Because we seem to have such a limited amount of it. And it can be really hard to bring up

[1:13:18] Voice 10: safely so that it's potable. I know that the commercial water use regulations kicked in this

[1:13:29] Voice 10: year. So I imagine there's a lot of applications that are in process. I know that domestic well

[1:13:36] Voice 10: registration, so not all the wells on Pender are registered. And I think there's probably been some

[1:13:43] Voice 10: some people in the past year who are registering them and so the applications to register your

[1:13:50] Voice 10: well are taking over more than eight months right now. I don't know what the time frame is

[1:13:59] Voice 10: supposed to be or when they're even expected to be getting through them but it is taking a long

[1:14:04] Voice 10: time so I'm curious how that factors into your decision making regarding you know density and

[1:14:12] Voice 10: changes there's there's wells out there that um are currently in in process um but you may not

[1:14:19] Voice 10: be aware of them yet right and

[1:14:22] Voice 10: does that how how does that matter um does it

[1:14:25] Trustee McConchie (probable): matter you know it's

[1:14:26] Trustee McConchie (probable): great it's a good question uh chair patrick did you wanna i mean you're you've been an expert on

[1:14:30] Trustee McConchie (probable): water issues on salt spring you work really hard with a hundred different committees there on salt

[1:14:35] Trustee McConchie (probable): spring i wonder if you have any thoughts

[1:14:36] Voice 1: to address sarah's question and

[1:14:38] Voice 11: can you hear me

[1:14:39] Voice 11: yes

[1:14:40] Voice 1: that's the

[1:14:49] Voice 1: province something about the province has done something

[1:14:52] Voice 11: so you're not hearing me you

[1:14:59] Voice 1: can hear you there just speak now

[1:15:00] Voice 11: don't move don't move

[1:15:06] Voice 11: i

[1:15:13] Trustee McConchie (probable): don't know what's going on with you chair patrick it's too bad

[1:15:16] Voice 11: i don't know either and

[1:15:18] Trustee McConchie (probable): it's fading so i um oh did

[1:15:21] Voice 8: you laura did you want to phone my phone here

[1:15:25] Voice 8: and i could put you on speaker or what's the so i'll i'll take it

[1:15:30] Voice 8: okay

[1:15:32] Trustee McConchie (probable): sure patrick no worries um

[1:15:34] Trustee McConchie (probable): uh groundwater is very important sarah to answer my from my perspective uh how does it take into

[1:15:39] Trustee McConchie (probable): account uh you know density it's very important um although i i do believe the the that uh

[1:15:47] Trustee McConchie (probable): we need to do more um however i think there's creative solutions to a lot of our water concerns

[1:15:53] Trustee McConchie (probable): on the island, and our groundwater project addressed a number of them. We have been in

[1:15:59] Trustee McConchie (probable): discussion during our last debate at our local trust committee. The debate kind of came down to

[1:16:04] Trustee McConchie (probable): this, Sarah. It's a political philosophical discussion is what we had at the last local

[1:16:14] Trustee McConchie (probable): trust committee meeting, which was this. Should the government, like the local trust committee,

[1:16:21] Trustee McConchie (probable): tell you to put a cistern on your property?

[1:16:25] Trustee McConchie (probable): Is that, that should be a requirement

[1:16:27] Trustee McConchie (probable): or should we leave it in the hands of Islanders

[1:16:30] Trustee McConchie (probable): to sort that out themselves?

[1:16:32] Trustee McConchie (probable): Because Islanders realize, well, water is lacking,

[1:16:36] Trustee McConchie (probable): you know, what should we do, right?

[1:16:40] Trustee McConchie (probable): So that's the debate that we had and we discussed it.

[1:16:43] Trustee McConchie (probable): And I believe we proceeded to continue

[1:16:47] Trustee McConchie (probable): the groundwater project to its next phase

[1:16:50] Trustee McConchie (probable): at the next meeting on August 11th.

[1:16:53] Trustee McConchie (probable): I'm noticing also Chair Patrick wrote,

[1:16:57] Trustee McConchie (probable): well, registration and licenses is with the province.

[1:17:00] Trustee McConchie (probable): The Islands Trust and the province work together.

[1:17:03] Trustee McConchie (probable): Chair Patrick says we are working on the science

[1:17:06] Trustee McConchie (probable): and it is a work in progress.

[1:17:08] Trustee McConchie (probable): Not sure if this answers your question,

[1:17:10] Trustee McConchie (probable): but that's where we are currently at

[1:17:14] Voice 1: as of 2022 in July with this debate and discussion.

[1:17:21] Voice 10: okay thank you

[1:17:22] Voice 10: and i guess my main point really

[1:17:23] Voice 10: is just that the applications are taking

[1:17:25] Voice 10: so long that you guys don't have all the information that's

[1:17:31] Voice 1: a that's a very good point

[1:17:31] Voice 1: sarah yeah absolutely um so uh yeah it's so that's a that's a good point that's something

[1:17:41] Voice 1: we need to discuss at

[1:17:43] Trustee McConchie (probable): our that's a point sarah brings up uh when we're debating and discussing

[1:17:49] Trustee McConchie (probable): how to proceed with ground water regulations.

[1:17:53] Trustee McConchie (probable): And

[1:17:53] Voice 10: I don't know, I mean, just as a follow up, where is the liability, right?

[1:17:59] Voice 10: If somebody's potable domestic water supply is affected by a development that you guys

[1:18:09] Voice 10: perhaps have authorized, you know, who's responsible for remediating it?

[1:18:16] Voice 10: If that were to happen, it's hypothetical.

[1:18:18] Voice 10: So maybe you don't want to speak in hypotheticals,

[1:18:20] Voice 10: but I'm just asking

[1:18:21] Voice 10: in general

[1:18:22] Voice 10: if there is any policy around that

[1:18:25] Voice 10: or is

[1:18:27] Trustee McConchie (probable): there any precedent?

[1:18:29] Voice 8: Has it happened?

[1:18:30] Trustee McConchie (probable): Planner Stockton?

[1:18:31] Voice 8: Yeah, not that I'm aware of,

[1:18:33] Voice 8: but Sarah, these questions are fantastic.

[1:18:35] Voice 8: And I believe the North Pender LTC

[1:18:38] Voice 8: is with William and Narissa

[1:18:42] Voice 8: are going to be scheduling

[1:18:44] Voice 8: a community information meeting,

[1:18:46] Voice 8: I believe on the groundwater project.

[1:18:48] Voice 8: this question by all means i think that william sholba he's our senior freshwater specialist

[1:18:55] Voice 8: he'd be the one that would have the answer to that question he has a wealth of knowledge um in

[1:19:01] Voice 8: regards to fresh water regulations and policies so he'd be the perfect person to ask that question

[1:19:06] Voice 8: too well

[1:19:08] Voice 10: thank you yeah great to know he'll be speaking again thanks you guys for all your work

[1:19:12] Voice 10: okay

[1:19:13] Trustee McConchie (probable): um it goes i i so planner stock bill just want to i'm just going to read as it

[1:19:20] Trustee McConchie (probable): ends in the meeting here if that's okay because she's not able to read verbatim with message

[1:19:26] Trustee McConchie (probable): she's asked me to read the question uh so ann writes uh planner stock deal stated a hundred

[1:19:32] Trustee McConchie (probable): square foot outbuilding is allowed in any zone why do we have bylaw enforcement stating that we

[1:19:39] Trustee McConchie (probable): So it's a specific question. Why do we have bylaw enforcement stating we cannot bring power into our industrial zone, which is allowed on any property on North Pender Island?

[1:19:52] Trustee McConchie (probable): This is a very specific question. I'm not sure if you're informed about this particular issue. Are you in any position to answer the question right now under this meeting?

[1:20:01] Voice 8: Yeah. No, I think, Anne, you and I should have a discussion about this particular thing. And again,

[1:20:06] Voice 8: Bylaw 224 hasn't been adopted yet, right? So that regulation isn't in place yet.

[1:20:11] Voice 8: But why don't we chat more about your property and we'll go into more detail.

[1:20:17] Trustee McConchie (probable): Okay. So that would be great if Anne can connect with Kim and address that concern she has.

[1:20:25] Trustee McConchie (probable): um i've also worked i've also discussed uh and circumstance with bylaw enforcement uh and uh

[1:20:32] Trustee McConchie (probable): there may be an opportunity for uh bylaw enforcement to uh bring back a report regarding

[1:20:39] Trustee McConchie (probable): that situation uh that they're currently discussing uh for the ltc to decide if you

[1:20:43] Trustee McConchie (probable): to discuss at a future date um okay so now we are approaching 10 to 8 o'clock i'm very impressed

[1:20:51] Trustee McConchie (probable): This is like midnight on Pender Island time that we have many attendees.

[1:20:56] Trustee McConchie (probable): I would like to just give a couple more minutes to folks, an opportunity to ask any question regarding topics to do with house, the maximum floor, maximum house size, the discussion about helicopters, discussion about land, particular land being rezoned, discussion about the rezoning of Magic Lake and Tranquil Valley areas.

[1:21:21] Trustee McConchie (probable): discussion about uh the size of uh barns uh and or or agricultural permitted uses um and uh well

[1:21:31] Trustee McConchie (probable): have i missed anything planner stock till any other topics that no um so without i'm not seeing

[1:21:37] Trustee McConchie (probable): any other questions um if it's okay chair patrick i'm not sure if how much time you want to give to

[1:21:43] Trustee McConchie (probable): folks who are listening yeah okay well i like i like to respect everyone's time i think uh planner

[1:21:51] Trustee McConchie (probable): Planner Stockdale has done an outstanding job of outlining many of the issues that we've tackled

[1:21:59] Trustee McConchie (probable): as a local trust committee over the whole term. There is an election on October 15th.

[1:22:05] Trustee McConchie (probable): This may or may not impact potential adoption of these bylaws, as Planner Stockdale noted,

[1:22:13] Trustee McConchie (probable): because, as she noted, Bylaw 224 does not need approval from the Ministry of Municipal Affairs,

[1:22:20] Trustee McConchie (probable): bears, but the other two bylaws do. Now, the main point I want folks to take if they're just

[1:22:27] Trustee McConchie (probable): listening for the first time is it's not too late to share your opinion. And it's not too late to

[1:22:33] Trustee McConchie (probable): express and ask questions about what the work of the trust committee has done. So please write to

[1:22:40] Trustee McConchie (probable): southinfo at islandstrust.bc.ca. We'd love to hear from you. The next community information

[1:22:47] Trustee McConchie (probable): information meeting will be a Zoom meeting similar to this, where if you have had a chance to listen

[1:22:52] Trustee McConchie (probable): to this presentation, you have further questions, and you'd like to bring it to the public forum,

[1:22:57] Trustee McConchie (probable): I would love to hear that. And I know Chair Patrick and Trustee Morrison would love to hear

[1:23:01] Trustee McConchie (probable): that as well. That is on July 28th, if I'm not mistaken, and that's at 10 a.m. That'll be a

[1:23:08] Trustee McConchie (probable): virtual meeting, 10 a.m. You will be able to re-watch this meeting if you want to hear what

[1:23:15] Trustee McConchie (probable): planner stock bill had to say she had much a lot of information in there we'd like to hear from you

[1:23:21] Trustee McConchie (probable): guys and feel free of course to call me anytime and i know chair patrick and trustee morrison

[1:23:27] Trustee McConchie (probable): make themselves available as much as they can considering chair patrick's very busy schedule

[1:23:31] Trustee McConchie (probable): she had executive committee today i also like to remind folks listening in that i'm heading to

[1:23:37] Trustee McConchie (probable): nanaimo tomorrow for the trust programs committee meeting that will be an in-person meeting and we

[1:23:43] Trustee McConchie (probable): we will discuss the direction of the policy statement

[1:23:47] Trustee McConchie (probable): and the feedback that we've heard from you guys,

[1:23:49] Trustee McConchie (probable): you Islanders, as a result of a huge public engagement

[1:23:53] Trustee McConchie (probable): that's taken place over the past several months.

[1:23:56] Trustee McConchie (probable): Now, Chair Patrick, with that,

[1:23:58] Trustee McConchie (probable): do you have any gargled internet words

[1:24:01] Trustee McConchie (probable): you'd like to express to any Islanders?

[1:24:04] No, but I hear my gargled words, thank you.

[1:24:07] Trustee McConchie (probable): Thank you, great, excellent.

[1:24:09] Trustee McConchie (probable): And Planner Stockdale, thank you very much

[1:24:11] Trustee McConchie (probable): for organizing a very informative event tonight so with that without seeing any other questions

[1:24:18] Trustee McConchie (probable): uh it's okay i'd like to call this uh community information meeting

[1:24:21] Trustee McConchie (probable): uh to adjournment great okay thank you very much guys i

[1:24:27] Voice 1: hope everyone's having

[1:24:27] Voice 1: a great summer and i look forward to hearing from you take care everyone

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North Pender Island Local Trust Committee 
Minutes of Special Meeting 
 
Date:  
Location:  
July 7, 2022 
Electronic Meeting 
 
Members Present: Laura Patrick, Chair (by telephone)  
 Benjamin McConchie, Trustee, Acting Chair 
  
Staff Present: Kim Stockdill, Island Planner 
 Lauren Edwards, Recorder 
  
Regrets: Deb Morrison, Trustee 
 Phil Testamale, Planner 2 
  
Public: There were approximately 19 attendees via Zoom 
 
1. CALL TO ORDER 
Trustee McConchie, Acting Chair, called the meeting to order at 6:30 pm.  He commented that 
the Land Use Bylaw Review Project was initiated three and a half years ago and that on August 
11, 2022 there will be a meeting for discussion and vote on the project. 
He acknowledged his honour to teach music and be a trustee on SENĆOŦEN speaking land and 
the strides being made to rebuild broken bridges.  He stated that the Pender Island LTC has 
worked hard towards reconciliation, especially with regards to James Island, and that Chair 
Patrick and the trustees can be contacted for more information.  
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 
By general consent the agenda was approved as presented. 
3. BUSINESS ITEMS 
3.1 Staff Presentation – Land Use Bylaw Review Project and overview of proposed Bylaws 
223, 224, and 229 
Planner Stockdill provided a PowerPoint presentation on bylaws 223, 224 and 229, and 
some of her reporting included that: 
 The project began in early 2020 to do a full review of the Land Use Bylaw (LUB) and 
implement policies and initiatives in the Official Community Plan (OCP) to ensure 
the LUB is up to date and to do a technical review and minor amendments for the 
LUB.   
A D O P T E D 

 
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 The various topics that staff and the LTC wanted to highlight through this process 
were:   
o Residential and maximum floor area; 
o Conservation subdivision; 
o Agricultural regulations; 
o Industrial regulations; 
o Tourist Accommodation (C2 Zoning) review; 
o Marine and shoreline regulations; and 
o Other minor technical amendments.  
 
 The conservation subdivision topic was removed to be addressed as its own project. 
 
 The progression of the project included: 
o Discussion papers submitted nearly two years ago and available on the Islands 
Trust website; 
o Engagement with First Nations during the fall of 2020 and into January 2021;   
o In the spring of 2021, a referral was received from the Agricultural Advisory 
Committee and recommendations were incorporated; 
o In the summer and fall of 2021, the LTC narrowed the project scope; and   
o Two community information meetings were held this year which highlighted hot 
topics.   
 
 Bylaw 224 contains the majority of amendments and is consistent with the OCP and 
can proceed on its own track.  It will require approval from the Executive Committee 
before adoption by the LTC.   
 
 Bylaw 223 is the OCP amendment bylaw and will accompany bylaw 229 which are 
rezonings that require amendments to the OCP.  OCP amendment bylaws require 
approval of the Minister of Municipal Affairs and it is not known how long the 
approval will take. 
 
 All three bylaws received first reading at the May 26, 2022 LTC meeting and the 
bylaws and staff reports can be found on the project website titled Land Use Bylaw 
Review.   
 
 Hot topics presented were: 
o RR1 and RR2 Zones 
o Maximum Floor Area 
o Legal Non-Conforming 
o Accessory Structures on bare land 
o Helicopters 
o MacKinnon Road (C2 Zoned) Properties 
o Docks 
 

 
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 Information provided included:   
o RR1 zoning throughout Magic Lake and Trincomali areas;   
o All other RR properties will be rezoned to new RR2 zoning; 
o A chart detailing maximum floor area per lot was presented;   
o With regards to legal non-conforming, a legal dwelling constructed prior to 
bylaw 224 can be replaced or altered provided it does not exceed the original 
floor area at the time the bylaw was adopted; 
o Bare land is permitted to have one outbuilding and one utility shed prior to 
constructing the building;  
o Helicopters for other than emergency use is not permissible;  
o Four MacKinnon Road properties are zoned Commercial 2 (Tourist 
Accommodation Zone).  Property owners agreed to reduce density down to 23 
tourist accommodation units; and 
o The LTC proposes to rezone the area around North Pender to Water 3 which 
does not permit private docks.  Properties with a licencing application in process 
with the Province will retain Water 1 zoning and future private docks would 
require an application for rezoning. 
 
 Planner Stockdill asked that members of the public provide comment on the 
following topics for discussion at upcoming community information meetings: 
o The new Rural Residential 2 zones:  agricultural buildings could be between 30 
and 50 feet in height depending on distance from lot lines.  One consideration is 
that the LTC could restrict heights; 
o Port Washington store site:  rezone to RR2 to allow a dwelling to be constructed.  
If rezoned, owners will apply to amalgamate the properties and shift property 
lines for parking area;     
o The portion of land behind the Driftwood Centre:  The LTC is considering 
rezoning to rental housing which could allow up to 16 multifamily rental units; 
o The last three properties relate to waste transfer use, commercial composting 
and recycling: 
1. 4415 Bedwell Harbour Road:  the LTC is considering rezoning a portion of 
this property to General Industrial (e) which only allows use currently 
permitted in the TUP.  It would require an OCP designation and would be 
part of Bylaw 223.     
2. Portions of 3418 South Otter Road:  The LTC is considering rezoning from 
industrial to community service site specific use.   
3. The other portion of 3418 South Otter Road:  The LTC is proposing rezoning 
from Industrial (c) to General Industrial (d) to allow industrial zoning uses. 
 Next steps are community information meetings: 
o A Zoom meeting is scheduled for July 28
th
 and will include a presentation.   
o An in-person meeting is scheduled on August 13
th
 at 11:00 am at Anglican hall 
and will include an open house and Q&A.   
o At the Regular LTC meeting on August 11
th
, the LTC may make more 
amendments to the bylaws or give direction to schedule a public hearing.   

 
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o For Bylaw 224, there is potential for a public hearing in the next few months 
and potential for bylaw adoption in the fall.   
o For Bylaw 223 and 229, the timeline for potential adoption is unknown. 
 
 All correspondence being sent to the LTC regarding this project should include 
southinfo@islandstrust.bc.ca 
 
 The presentation made at this meeting is on the Project website. 
Trustee McConchie invited the public to ask questions.  The following comments were 
made: 
Kathi D. (Allison) from Pender Island stated concern about the 2500 square foot limit.  
She has a house grandfathered and has ability to make a suite for her father, but 800 
square feet of the basement is unusable.  She asked whether 2500 square feet is too 
low and whether square footage of an unusable basement will be taken into 
consideration. 
Planner Stockdill responded that Bylaw 224 maximum is 2500 square feet and includes 
any area greater than five feet in height.  A second suite may require a Development 
Variance Permit (DVP) as the floor area includes the basement.  
Kathy D. commented that she will put in writing that the 2500 square feet is too low as 
homeowners with sloping basements would be penalized. 
Trustee McConchie commented that this item will be discussed with trustees as it 
should not impede homeowners.   
Dale Henning stated that he was confused by the presentation regarding helicopters 
and the statement regarding bylaw enforcement.  With no authority to enforce the 
bylaw, he asked why it was included.   
Trustee McConchie responded that: 
 There had been a lot of correspondence on this issue; 
 Many community members are concerned about aeronautics in the Gulf Islands.   
 Pender Island already has a bylaw regarding helipads.   
 The creation of an unenforceable law should be discussed.   
 There are low flying planes over the Gulf Islands that do not follow flight paths.   
 He gets emails once per week regarding helijet, etc.   
 He stated that the question is:  What is the future of avionics on the islands?  And, 
should local governments have a say, especially if it pertains to the environment?   
 
Dale Henning commented that: 
 Aviation is part of West Coast living and while float planes make a lot of noise, they 
transfer a lot of people.  They are an essential part of tourism and medical 
transport; and  

 
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 The Islands Trust has been criticized many times for spending money on silly 
projects and there is one guy who is fortunate to own a helicopter; and, that Helijet 
cannot be limited, aircraft fly low and that has to be lived with.    
Trustee McConchie stated that he had not received any correspondence with that 
opinion, but has received numerous correspondence indicating Islands Trust should 
pursue this issue.  He invited Dale Henning to write to the LTC. 
Dale Henning commented that years ago the property behind the Driftwood Centre was 
proposed for senior housing or rental housing.  He suggested that Islands Trust take a 
close look at rental housing.   
Planner Stockdill stated that, rather than posting to Facebook, it is important for the 
public to write to the southinfo@islandstrust.bc.ca in order to ensure their comments 
become part of the public record and so that each trustee has an opportunity to read 
them. 
Sara Miles commented that in the most recent staff report a motion was carried to 
incorporate the Groundwater Sustainability Project draft LUB into the draft Bylaw 224.  
She asked for a summary of what that means. 
Planner Stockdill reported that this item will be included in the meeting for July 28
th
 and 
that there are three items of the Groundwater Project that was incorporated into this 
project:  adding definition into bylaw 224, adding cistern and updating subdivision 
regulations.   
Elizabeth Botman stated that she bought a home 12 years ago which was zoned as a 
sensitive eco system.  She stated that she does not see that mentioned here and asked if 
there was a change to the category. 
Planner Stockdill responded that DVP areas were established based on the sensitive eco 
system mapping and this project does not deal with that.  She asked that Elizabeth 
Botman contact her directly. 
Planner Stockdill also confirmed that any zoning can have an accessory building as long 
as it meets the setback requirements.   
Planner Stockdill explained that the new RR1 zone for Magic Lake and Trincomali are 
small lots with one dwelling unit and no agriculture as a principle permitted use.  Water 
is also a concern throughout the island including these areas. 
Trustee McConchie reported that the LTC received the Agricultural Advisory Planning 
Commission’s opinion that Magic Lake and Tracomalley are different than more rural 
parts of the Island and there should be differences in the zoning regulations.  He 
reported that the Magic Lake Property Owners Association is voting to investigate 
incorporation and hopefully this new zoning will address some of their concerns.   
Planner Stockdill provided direction and information regarding the Islands Trust website 
including that the Projects page holds the Land Use Bylaw Review documents.   

 
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Ann Burdett questioned how trustees can confidently move forward with these changes 
and that she has bylaw enforcement stating otherwise with regards to an outbuilding 
allowance.   
Planner Stockdill responded that an outbuilding cannot currently be constructed on 
bare land, but that the proposed Bylaw 224 will allow it.   
Trustee McConchie commented on the thoroughness of the project’s process which 
included analysis, public debate and transparency.  He further commented that the 
process has been ongoing for over three years and that the most helpful comments 
were those for which individuals addressed specific problems that resulted in 
alterations.  He feels confident and wants to hear from the public on specific matters.   
Sara Miles asked whether the LTC can factor density and changes into the decision 
making while well licensing applications are still in process with the Province and may 
take several months to process.    
Trustee McConchie reported that there were creative solutions the Groundwater 
Project addressed and the decision was to move to the next phase at the next meeting.   
Trustee McConchie read aloud Chair Patrick’s typed comment that well registration and 
licensing is with the Province who work with Islands Trust.  The Islands Trust is working 
on the science and it is a work in progress.  
Trustee McConchie commented that this will need more discussion. 
Sara Miles asked that if somebody’s potable domestic water supply is affected by an 
authorized development who is liable?  Is there any policy? 
Planner Stockdill stated that the LTC will be scheduling a community information 
meeting regarding the Groundwater Project and that William Shulba can provide an 
answer.    
Planner Stockdill invited Ann to have a discussion with her directly concerning her 
question regarding industrial zones. 
Trustee McConchie stated that he discussed this issue with bylaw enforcement and 
there may be an opportunity for bylaw enforcement to bring the report for discussion at 
a future date.   
Trustee McConchie commented that it is not too late to express yourself or ask 
questions.  He asked that the public write to southinfo@islandstrust.bc.ca and that 
Chair Patrick and the trustees can be contacted.    
  

 
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4. ADJOURNMENT 
By general consent the meeting was adjourned at 7:55 pm. 
 
________________________ 
Ben McConchie, Trustee, Acting Chair 
 
 
Certified Correct: 
______________________ 
Lauren Edwards, Recorder