Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee public hearing, September 6, 2022

[0:29:30] Voice 4: But that's always interesting when you can do it rather municipally.

[0:29:37] Voice 4: It's time to start

[0:29:55] Voice 3: streaming, recording.

[0:29:56] Voice 3: The camera is on the

[0:29:59] Voice 3: two of you.

[0:30:04] Trustee Grove (probable): oh yes i mentioned that no no are you

[0:30:08] Trustee Patrick: ready then yes all

[0:30:10] Trustee Patrick: right um i'd like to oh i don't have them

[0:30:13] Trustee Patrick: i don't have a minute but i don't have them um so i'm gonna have to wait a bit i'd like to call

[0:30:20] Trustee Patrick: uh this meeting of a regular meeting of the salt spring island local trust committee

[0:30:24] Trustee Patrick: to order notice that our chair peter luckham is not with us today so i'll be stepping in and

[0:30:30] Trustee Patrick: and acting as chair for the meeting,

[0:30:35] Trustee Patrick: unless we get him in at some point.

[0:30:39] Trustee Patrick: Always begin with acknowledging how fortunate we are

[0:30:42] Trustee Patrick: to be able to gather in the traditional unceded territories

[0:30:46] Trustee Patrick: of the Coast Salish people.

[0:30:48] Trustee Patrick: I always share a bit of my journey on reconciliation.

[0:30:52] Trustee Patrick: And when I do the openings,

[0:30:55] Trustee Patrick: I was honored to be able to attend a talk

[0:30:58] Trustee Patrick: by John Elliott at Salt Spring last week and he shared creator stories with the

[0:31:08] Trustee Patrick: audience but at the very end really shared his heartfelt desires of a future

[0:31:15] Trustee Patrick: where settlers and indigenous people work together to care for the special

[0:31:20] Trustee Patrick: place. I'm Laura Patrick, elected here on Salt Spring, local trustee and I'm

[0:31:27] Trustee Patrick: uh local trustee and i'm uh joined today by peter grove local trustee and we have a number of staff

[0:31:34] Trustee Patrick: with us uh today we have uh acting regional planning manager louisa garbo uh we have uh ron

[0:31:41] Trustee Patrick: bingle i we have sarah sugar doing the minute taking william schulba our freshwater specialist

[0:31:47] Trustee Patrick: and i forget it's charlie charlie i have a planning

[0:31:51] Voice 7: technician uh

[0:31:52] Trustee Patrick: planning tech just welcome

[0:31:53] Trustee Patrick: Welcome, Charlie, for joining us today.

[0:31:56] Trustee Patrick: We'll be live streaming and recording this meeting.

[0:32:00] Trustee Patrick: This is also a place of employment for our employees, and they have the right to a safe and respectful workplace.

[0:32:10] Trustee Patrick: I'm trying to think of anything else I have to do for the...

[0:32:13] Trustee Grove (probable): You just don't find.

[0:32:15] Trustee Grove (probable): Let's press on.

[0:32:17] Trustee Patrick: Okay, we have an agenda before us.

[0:32:19] Trustee Patrick: Are there any additions or changes to the agenda?

[0:32:21] Trustee Patrick: None.

[0:32:22] Trustee Patrick: Can we approve the agenda through general consent?

[0:32:24] Voice 4: Yes.

[0:32:24] Trustee Patrick: Excellent. We have a number of minutes here before us. We have the draft minutes of

[0:32:29] Trustee Patrick: April, August 9th. Are there any changes to those minutes? I have none.

[0:32:58] Voice 4: They can stay as is.

[0:33:00] Trustee Patrick: Okay. So can we approve the minutes through general consent? Yes, please.

[0:33:05] Trustee Patrick: We have other minutes here for information. Advisory Planning Commission meeting on July 28th.

[0:33:11] Trustee Patrick: is there any questions or i

[0:33:13] Trustee Grove (probable): have none and

[0:33:14] Trustee Patrick: we have um i think the agricultural advisory committee

[0:33:18] Trustee Patrick: didn't meet i understand remember correctly um it says it's just a meeting notes are here for

[0:33:24] Trustee Patrick: information um and then there was the housing action task force met um august 4th and there's

[0:33:33] Trustee Patrick: information here for us thank

[0:33:35] Trustee Grove (probable): you um

[0:33:36] Trustee Patrick: we also have um the public hearing for bylaw 526 farm worker

[0:33:44] Trustee Patrick: housing for receipt and we also have the proposed bylaw 530 accessory dwelling unit um public

[0:33:56] Trustee Patrick: hearing record for receipt we have a follow-up action list on page 38 are there any questions

[0:34:04] Trustee Patrick: Any other questions for staff or any items that staff wish to bring up?

[0:34:07] Trustee Patrick: I have none.

[0:34:10] Trustee Grove (probable): See,

[0:34:13] Trustee Patrick: this is why we waited.

[0:34:15] Trustee Patrick: Okay, well then we have a series of other reports.

[0:34:21] Trustee Patrick: Here we have the policy and standing resolutions from creation of the top priorities and projects lists list, not going to change at this point.

[0:34:32] Trustee Patrick: uh we have applications with status uh report are there any questions on any of the applications or

[0:34:38] Trustee Patrick: i

[0:34:38] Trustee Grove (probable): have none okay

[0:34:39] Trustee Patrick: i don't either our expense report is here at the end of june

[0:34:45] Trustee Patrick: and then we get to uh housing action program task force chair update and

[0:34:54] Trustee Grove (probable): the chair is here hello

[0:34:56] Trustee Patrick: Hello, Ronan.

[0:34:58] Trustee Patrick: Over to you.

[0:35:00] Voice 13: Thank you.

[0:35:02] Voice 13: That was very good.

[0:35:06] Voice 13: Good morning.

[0:35:09] Voice 13: We finished the summary report of our various ideas that we've discussed to date to improve housing options and diversity in a way that reduces the net environmental impact per capita of our settlement patterns while maintaining a diverse and healthy community.

[0:35:26] Voice 13: we ask that it be shared with the ltc and posted on the project on our project page

[0:35:31] Voice 13: website um on the trust website which staff has have said that they will do

[0:35:36] Voice 13: so the public can view the summary of our work and see the full spectrum of ideas

[0:35:43] Voice 13: that we have been discussing and how to fit together to achieve a better balance of housing

[0:35:47] Voice 13: needs there is much work to do still but information and communication is an important part

[0:35:54] Voice 13: indeed one of the main points that we have highlighted is the need for better communication

[0:35:58] Voice 13: education and collaboration recent public discourse has been rife with misunderstanding

[0:36:04] Voice 13: false assumptions incomplete appreciations of different points of view and intentions

[0:36:09] Voice 13: this has been difficult for us at the task force because we know that our intentions are much

[0:36:14] Voice 13: different than how it seems to be interpreted by some we hope that this report will help clarify

[0:36:19] Voice 13: our intentions

[0:36:19] Voice 4: and stimulate discussion see that in

[0:39:10] Trustee Grove (probable): staff's report i would like to see those addressed

[0:39:14] Trustee Patrick: i have some i do have some points i wanted to raise

[0:39:17] Trustee Grove (probable): as

[0:39:18] Voice 4: a result of that so and one is

[0:39:24] Voice 4: who's that

[0:39:31] Trustee Patrick: i mean the process this this summer i mean one of our principles for this i apologize

[0:39:42] Trustee Patrick: One of the principles for the Housing Action Program was that the LTC will, early and throughout the process, facilitate regular open dialogue with the full spectrum of the community and First Nations.

[0:39:53] Trustee Patrick: The LTC understands that achieving consensus may be difficult, but through dialogue, we can search for common understanding.

[0:39:59] Trustee Patrick: That was one of our principles.

[0:40:00] Trustee Patrick: I know things kind of moved quickly this summer.

[0:40:04] Trustee Patrick: I know I was trying to slow it down because

[0:40:07] Trustee Patrick: I said that summer wasn't best practices, but we were losing staff.

[0:40:10] Trustee Patrick: and there were a number of reasons why it carried on.

[0:40:14] Trustee Patrick: That said, even though it wasn't an ideal form

[0:40:18] Trustee Patrick: to have a public hearing,

[0:40:20] Trustee Patrick: the input that was received during the public hearing

[0:40:22] Trustee Patrick: was rich and useful.

[0:40:26] Trustee Patrick: I think there's a number of things that we can do

[0:40:31] Trustee Patrick: to improve the bylaw and do a bit more research

[0:40:36] Trustee Patrick: in addition to, of course, carrying on the dialogue with the First Nations.

[0:40:43] Trustee Patrick: So I have three items here.

[0:40:48] Trustee Patrick: One was related to requesting staff to do more work on researching options

[0:40:56] Trustee Patrick: to limit the numbers of ADUs that may be permitted in a given time period.

[0:41:01] Trustee Patrick: So I have a motion prepared related to that.

[0:41:04] Trustee Patrick: and asking staff to come back and kind of give us some idea of the strengths and weaknesses

[0:41:09] Trustee Patrick: of the various methods that may or may not be possible to do that right the second item that

[0:41:15] Trustee Patrick: i have is to have request staff to identify opportunities for further amendments that

[0:41:22] Trustee Patrick: would minimize environmental impacts such as perhaps a maximum total core area shared driveways

[0:41:30] Trustee Patrick: and proximities of structures as being something to look at but that it could be anything that was

[0:41:36] Trustee Patrick: just examples and again you know look at their the positives and negatives and those options

[0:41:42] Trustee Patrick: and the final is related again to the communication materials we need communication

[0:41:47] Trustee Patrick: materials that explain what these different forms of accessory gluing units are what do they look

[0:41:54] Trustee Patrick: what what and for people to recognize that they are or what are the paths of going to make them

[0:42:01] Trustee Patrick: legal just because we could make them use um recognize it's what steps are involved

[0:42:09] Trustee Patrick: so are there other um other topic areas that you heard from the public hearing that you

[0:42:18] Trustee Patrick: you would want to ask further research on?

[0:42:25] Trustee Grove (probable): No, not specifically.

[0:42:27] Trustee Grove (probable): I mean, I had hoped that we would have reviewed

[0:42:31] Trustee Grove (probable): the comments made at that meeting

[0:42:34] Trustee Grove (probable): and basically addressed each of the concerns

[0:42:39] Trustee Grove (probable): so that people felt that there was some kind of response

[0:42:41] Trustee Grove (probable): to those concerns.

[0:42:44] Trustee Grove (probable): I don't know what that would look like,

[0:42:47] Trustee Grove (probable): but um i had thought that that would be part of the staff report for response to that

[0:42:51] Trustee Grove (probable): i don't know if that's normal or not

[0:42:54] Voice 7: so chair um this is a third reading report i follow the

[0:42:59] Voice 7: island trust normal procedures and for post public hearing we cannot comment on a lot of things that

[0:43:07] Voice 7: in fear of providing new information to the trustees so basically we just gave a highlight

[0:43:12] Voice 7: of the general consent, citing the support

[0:43:16] Voice 7: and opposition and the reason why.

[0:43:21] Voice 7: A

[0:43:21] Trustee Patrick: potential way forward would be

[0:43:25] Trustee Patrick: if we proceed to make these resolutions

[0:43:29] Trustee Patrick: and pass them, we are putting the bylaw

[0:43:34] Trustee Patrick: on a path to return back to public hearing.

[0:43:37] Trustee Patrick: So we could also ask for analysis

[0:43:41] Trustee Patrick: analysis on you know you know we have these three questions are there you know ask staff to to look

[0:43:48] Trustee Patrick: but were there other items that were raised that need to be addressed something

[0:43:52] Voice 3: like that yeah

[0:43:54] Voice 3: exactly work

[0:43:55] Trustee Patrick: yeah

[0:43:55] Voice 3: okay

[0:43:57] Trustee Patrick: so should we we can do these three resolutions because I know Sarah has

[0:44:02] Trustee Patrick: those and then we can try to yes

[0:44:04] Voice 3: please do one on the

[0:44:04] Trustee Patrick: fly yes that's uh okay um so I'll I'll move

[0:44:09] Trustee Patrick: that salt spring island local trust committee requests staff to research options to limit the

[0:44:13] Trustee Patrick: number of adus accessory dwelling units i

[0:44:16] Trustee Patrick: won't use them and that may be permitted in a given

[0:44:19] Trustee Patrick: time period and report back to back to the ltc with the strengths and weaknesses of the various

[0:44:26] Trustee Patrick: options i'll

[0:44:27] Trustee Grove (probable): second that is

[0:44:30] Trustee Patrick: there any discussion no

[0:44:33] Voice 4: i

[0:44:34] Trustee Patrick: think this uh i think this is critically

[0:44:37] Trustee Patrick: critically important. I know it'd be interesting. I think there would be things that perhaps aren't

[0:44:43] Trustee Patrick: allowed today in the Local Government Act, but I see that again as our role, just because

[0:44:49] Trustee Patrick: the Local Government Act restricts something. We should push this government that is speaking

[0:44:55] Trustee Patrick: so strongly about housing to provide more options if that's necessary. All right. If there's no

[0:45:02] Trustee Patrick: No further discussion, I'll call the vote.

[0:45:04] Trustee Patrick: All those in favor?

[0:45:05] Trustee Patrick: And that's carried.

[0:45:07] Trustee Patrick: The second one I have is,

[0:45:09] Trustee Patrick: I move that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust

[0:45:11] Trustee Patrick: be request staff to review bylaw 530

[0:45:13] Trustee Patrick: and identify opportunities for amendments

[0:45:15] Trustee Patrick: that can further minimize environmental impacts

[0:45:18] Trustee Patrick: such as maximum floor area, shared driveways,

[0:45:21] Trustee Patrick: and proximity of structures and report back

[0:45:23] Trustee Patrick: the strengths and weaknesses of the various options.

[0:45:26] Trustee Patrick: I second that.

[0:45:27] Voice 6: There was one extra word there, maximum total for-

[0:45:31] Trustee Patrick: Oh, did I say?

[0:45:32] Trustee Patrick: it

[0:45:32] Voice 6: you just missed the word oh

[0:45:33] Trustee Patrick: sorry thank you yes as maximum total floor area that is um

[0:45:40] Trustee Patrick: right still any old discussion yes

[0:45:43] Trustee Grove (probable): thank you you use the word such as i believe these were

[0:45:47] Trustee Patrick: examples i i meant for them to look at any amendments staff to analyze if there were

[0:45:52] Trustee Patrick: other amendments that relate to minimizing environmental impact so i just threw out

[0:45:59] Trustee Patrick: examples yeah

[0:46:01] Trustee Grove (probable): and i i acknowledge those are examples so i'm just wondering um with staff

[0:46:06] Trustee Grove (probable): comfortable looking up and providing information on the other matters that might arise well we can

[0:46:14] Trustee Patrick: make a motion that would cover any anything else this is

[0:46:20] Trustee Patrick: just environmental impacts is what this

[0:46:22] Trustee Patrick: one's talking about okay

[0:46:24] Trustee Grove (probable): um does that work if it's for staff i mean it makes sense to me but

[0:46:30] Trustee Grove (probable): uh i don't know what else is covered under such as i'm

[0:46:36] Voice 7: not sure how to respond at the moment um

[0:46:41] Voice 7: um i think we could work with that whatever the resolution

[0:46:44] Trustee Grove (probable): okay as long as you can good yeah all

[0:46:48] Trustee Patrick: right and

[0:46:49] Trustee Grove (probable): for the discussion i'll

[0:46:50] Trustee Patrick: call the vote then all those in favor and that's carried and

[0:46:54] Trustee Patrick: then the next one i have is i move that the salzburg island local trust committee requests

[0:46:57] Trustee Patrick: staff to prepare communication materials that guides the general public to understand the

[0:47:02] Trustee Patrick: various forms of accessory dwelling units and the steps necessary to be legally occupied i'll second

[0:47:08] Trustee Grove (probable): that because

[0:47:10] Trustee Patrick: i see this as a oh sorry i

[0:47:11] Voice 3: see

[0:47:13] Trustee Patrick: this as a educational piece of you know of understanding

[0:47:16] Trustee Patrick: what the various forms are absolutely and while we continue to say where they can be used absolutely

[0:47:22] Trustee Grove (probable): 100 is

[0:47:23] Trustee Patrick: there any further discussion i'll call the vote all those in favor that's carried now we have

[0:47:30] Trustee Patrick: to win one so

[0:47:31] Trustee Grove (probable): sorry the general the general approach that i was asking for is is a review of

[0:47:37] Trustee Grove (probable): uh comments made at the at the community information meeting um and the public hearing

[0:47:44] Trustee Grove (probable): meeting i'm sorry um with comments from staff as to what would be involved to address those

[0:47:52] Trustee Grove (probable): is that right yeah

[0:47:54] Trustee Patrick: i think you could just say all public hearing materials because it could

[0:47:58] Trustee Patrick: be submissions not just verbal so

[0:48:01] Trustee Grove (probable): i moved the source around local trust committee request staff

[0:48:03] Trustee Grove (probable): to review matters raised concerns right concerns are raised at the recent um public hearing on by

[0:48:11] Trustee Grove (probable): law 530 um addressing those concerns and what action comma if any comma the ltc might follow

[0:48:21] Voice 4: up

[0:48:27] Voice 3: and looking at that

[0:48:29] Voice 4: before

[0:48:30] Trustee Patrick: i second it i'll just let sarah read it back so make sure red okay

[0:48:33] Trustee Patrick: i

[0:48:37] Voice 6: think it may need i'll read it back that the local trust committee request act to review

[0:48:44] Voice 6: concerns raised at the recent public hearing for bylaw number 530 and report back regarding actions

[0:48:54] Voice 6: that the LTC could follow up.

[0:48:56] Trustee Grove (probable): Might, no, no, might take.

[0:48:58] Voice 6: Might take.

[0:48:59] Voice 6: That the LTC can report back regarding.

[0:49:06] Voice 4: Maybe just recommendations.

[0:49:10] Voice 6: Recommendations or?

[0:49:11] Voice 4: Yeah.

[0:49:11] Trustee Grove (probable): And

[0:49:12] Voice 6: provide recommendations.

[0:49:13] Trustee Grove (probable): Recommendations, yes, fine.

[0:49:15] Trustee Grove (probable): Yeah, that's good.

[0:49:16] Trustee Grove (probable): I'll second that.

[0:49:17] Trustee Grove (probable): Yeah.

[0:49:18] Voice 6: I'll read that again.

[0:49:19] Trustee Grove (probable): Okay.

[0:49:20] Voice 6: The Local Trust Committee Request Act

[0:49:22] Voice 6: review concerns raised at the recent public hearing

[0:49:26] Voice 6: for Bylaw 530 and provide recommendations.

[0:49:29] Voice 6: good

[0:49:29] Trustee Grove (probable): thank you perfect all right

[0:49:31] Trustee Patrick: any discussion no i'll

[0:49:32] Trustee Patrick: call the vote all those in favor

[0:49:35] Trustee Patrick: carried there's no other motion we still need to make that one on um

[0:49:41] Voice 4: well do we actually

[0:49:49] Voice 4: we don't need to put

[0:49:51] Trustee Patrick: it on hold because we've asked you to do more work or how do we

[0:49:55] Voice 7: yeah right i mean that by itself yeah

[0:49:58] Trustee Patrick: yeah by that we we have put it we've we've um

[0:50:02] Voice 3: um but

[0:50:03] Voice 3: we

[0:50:04] Trustee Patrick: don't need to direct i mean you're currently the conversations with the first

[0:50:10] Trustee Patrick: nations will continue yeah so we don't need this motion okay

[0:50:17] Voice 4: um

[0:50:17] Trustee Grove (probable): yeah but i do think we need to

[0:50:21] Trustee Grove (probable): emphasize that we're waiting for an addressing of the um first nations concerns

[0:50:28] Voice 4: i

[0:50:33] Trustee Grove (probable): mean i is it

[0:50:35] Trustee Grove (probable): would it not be helpful to have this but we're

[0:50:37] Trustee Patrick: not putting it on hold it's it's we're sending

[0:50:40] Trustee Patrick: to get back for continued research so let's

[0:50:42] Trustee Grove (probable): do that we do do have staff been asked to pursue

[0:50:46] Trustee Grove (probable): the consultation with uh first nations for going further i mean yeah

[0:50:52] Voice 7: you could do that

[0:50:53] Voice 7: we could change it to uh um request staff to consult with first uh say our person okay well

[0:51:00] Trustee Patrick: is it just say it or just first nation should we say first nations yeah

[0:51:04] Voice 7: i think first nations will

[0:51:05] Voice 7: be okay

[0:51:06] Trustee Grove (probable): so i'm with the social and local trust committee request staff to uh consult with

[0:51:12] Trustee Grove (probable): first nations um as requested in the tower letter of whatever the date is

[0:51:20] Trustee Patrick: well it's all for the first thing they were not first just first nations and to address

[0:51:24] Trustee Patrick: their concerns yeah

[0:51:25] Trustee Grove (probable): fair enough something like that

[0:51:29] Trustee Grove (probable): you've got that sarah uh

[0:51:30] Voice 6: the local trust

[0:51:32] Voice 6: committee request staff to consult with first nations to address concerns regarding byline

[0:51:36] Trustee Grove (probable): good perfect i mean i make that motion right

[0:51:40] Trustee Patrick: i'll second good any discussion no call the vote all

[0:51:44] Trustee Patrick: those in favor that's carried excellent

[0:51:47] Voice 4: i

[0:51:52] Trustee Patrick: think for the benefit of ronan's remarks and support

[0:51:57] Trustee Patrick: this we we've talked about this before and we're continuing to talk about that the processes we

[0:52:02] Trustee Patrick: we have with First Nations are still

[0:52:04] Voice 16: in

[0:52:06] Trustee Patrick: transition,

[0:52:07] Trustee Patrick: are developing, and we have a long ways to go

[0:52:11] Trustee Patrick: to get to a level that gives me comfort, I know.

[0:52:20] Trustee Patrick: And I'm still hopeful that Ganges Village plan

[0:52:23] Trustee Patrick: and the opportunity to do co-planning

[0:52:25] Trustee Patrick: will really be an opportunity to develop those processes

[0:52:29] Trustee Patrick: to a far greater level.

[0:52:36] Trustee Patrick: Okay, too many

[0:52:38] Trustee Patrick: pieces of paper in front of me.

[0:52:40] Trustee Grove (probable): 8.3.

[0:52:42] Trustee Patrick: Okay.

[0:52:43] Trustee Patrick: All right.

[0:52:44] Trustee Patrick: Finally, item 8.3, which is Lake Weston Water Availability and Climate Change Assessment

[0:52:49] Trustee Patrick: Report on page 109.

[0:52:51] Trustee Patrick: And I believe that's going to be William Schiller making that report.

[0:52:56] Trustee Patrick: Over to you, William.

[0:52:58] Voice 14: Okay.

[0:52:58] Voice 14: I'm sorry.

[0:52:59] Voice 14: I'm just mesmerized by this pumping test later on in the agenda, but...

[0:53:06] Voice 14: Gareth J. gallons a minute or whatever Okay, so.

[0:53:12] Voice 14: Gareth J. I am not going to be Labor this my description of the staff report it's quite involved and so i'm trusting that trustees and interested members of the public have read through the staff report and then the very comprehensive consulting report by gw solutions with respect to.

[0:53:37] Voice 14: water balance study on Weston Lake. I will say that this was a project of the

[0:53:45] Voice 14: capitol's regional district, but the local trust committee was the one that put in the money

[0:53:52] Voice 14: and we were also on the project team and GW Solutions did an adequate to, I would say,

[0:54:05] Voice 14: a beyond adequate job and identifying the available data sources and to do a water availability

[0:54:19] Voice 14: and climate change assessment study without putting a boot on the ground this was a desktop

[0:54:25] Voice 14: study and two of the more fundamental data sources that they used was the

[0:54:33] Voice 14: uh lake level monitoring uh that came from the salt spring island groundwater wells monitoring

[0:54:40] Voice 14: project which the capital regional district put in money a few years ago to include the lakes in

[0:54:46] Voice 14: that study so that that's managed by myself and i've been um downloading data from a private

[0:54:53] Voice 14: dock at quite a beautiful farm on on western lake and the other uh critical data piece was from the

[0:55:03] Voice 14: the Water Preservation Society's fresh water catalog,

[0:55:09] Voice 14: which looked at the stream flow from Weston Creek

[0:55:14] Voice 14: closer to the ocean.

[0:55:16] Voice 14: And those two datasets were used heavily in this report

[0:55:21] Voice 14: in addition to water use information

[0:55:26] Voice 14: and groundwater recharge potential mapping.

[0:55:29] Voice 14: And so there's several recommendations from the West End report from GW Solutions that staff have identified on page 112, including groundwater monitoring,

[0:55:52] Voice 14: which is ongoing in the area, although quite limited.

[0:55:56] Voice 14: it we only have one station and uh or i guess two stations in the area one near reginald hill

[0:56:04] Voice 14: or in that strata and then one up on uh call it the jasper highlands for lack of a better term

[0:56:14] Voice 14: and um there's some other uh recommendations here of increasing monitoring climate stations

[0:56:21] Voice 14: and increasing hydrometric station so looking taking a more detailed view of the creek flow

[0:56:30] Voice 14: in in weston which i've already had discussions with the capital regional district to

[0:56:36] Voice 14: to undertake a project to identify the best way to do that water use metering which is always

[0:56:45] Voice 14: really difficult to estimate domestic well water use so that that's always

[0:56:56] Voice 14: going to be approximated even though GW Solutions has suggested that all wells

[0:57:02] Voice 14: in the region be flow metered I think that's unrealistic we could perhaps get

[0:57:10] Voice 14: some volunteers to to meter their domestic use and then that can help with

[0:57:16] Voice 14: the approximation but that that's kind of beyond the scope of land use planning however water use

[0:57:24] Voice 14: metering can be increased with those licensed wells including the licensed users on the lake

[0:57:30] Voice 14: including the corporate water districts and then they also suggest conservation water conservation

[0:57:38] Voice 14: measures to be redefined but the the most significant aspect of this report and the

[0:57:47] Voice 14: and it leads to the most significant I guess analysis from staff is that

[0:57:56] Voice 14: considering environmental flow needs it and the environmental flow needs is it's largely

[0:58:04] Voice 14: undefined but it has been identified as one of the main factors in determining the water

[0:58:11] Voice 14: availability of western lake so based on that that there's with the lack of an of our knowledge of

[0:58:20] Voice 14: environmental flow needs um taking the precautionary principles staff are suggesting that the lake is

[0:58:26] Voice 14: completely allocated until that um those studies are undertaken to understand the impacts of

[0:58:35] Voice 14: water withdrawals on the on the environmental flow needs of western creek which has been

[0:58:42] Voice 14: identified in the past to have critical habitat the the interesting thing that this study has

[0:58:49] Voice 14: has brought to light is that all the lakes on salt spring are uniquely different from each other

[0:58:57] Voice 14: how St. Mary's Lake behaves is vastly different from Lake Maxwell and we've learned that through

[0:59:03] Voice 14: the Kerwood-Lytle studies and now looking at Weston Creek it's groundwater dominated,

[0:59:09] Voice 14: there's not a lot of surface water inputs, there's one surface water output which is Weston Creek

[0:59:15] Voice 14: and Weston Creek and Weston Lake both have significant groundwater additions to them

[0:59:21] Voice 14: through the course of the year whereby there's not much water flowing out of Weston Lake into

[0:59:29] Voice 14: Weston Creek in the summertime but yet Weston Creek is still flowing at the bottom so there

[0:59:34] Voice 14: has to be some sort of inputs there and GW Solutions has suggested through their just

[0:59:40] Voice 14: mapping modeling kind of thing that it's likely groundwater fed and there are I've walked Weston

[0:59:46] Voice 14: creek in the summertime with um john nielsen who's the technical advisory committee chair of swipa

[0:59:54] Voice 14: and and we we noticed that there are significant structural

[1:00:00] Voice 14: geological structural occurrences that create wetlands.

[1:00:05] Voice 14: And it's obviously that's where the water is coming in.

[1:00:06] Voice 14: So there's certain areas on the creek that have a unique geology that

[1:00:13] Voice 14: provides water that springs into it that can provide habitat.

[1:00:18] Voice 14: So that's one story.

[1:00:19] Voice 14: But the other story is how much does Lake Weston provide to Weston Creek

[1:00:26] Voice 14: to support environmental flow needs?

[1:00:29] Voice 14: and then the other topic which i that gw solutions has not did not mention in their

[1:00:37] Voice 14: report but through the north salt spring town hall that happened here

[1:00:46] Voice 14: that currid lytle suggested that another ecological consideration is when if you're

[1:00:53] Voice 14: lowering a lake for for water resources in the summertime how much shoreline that exposes and

[1:00:59] Voice 14: and the ecological impact of essentially drying up shoreline

[1:01:04] Voice 14: in the summertime.

[1:01:05] Voice 14: And that's something that GW Solutions didn't speak to.

[1:01:08] Voice 14: They just spoke to environmental flow needs

[1:01:10] Voice 14: for Western Creek, not for the lakeshore around the lake.

[1:01:18] Voice 14: So that being said, the first recommendation in the report

[1:01:24] Voice 14: is that while the LTC to accept the,

[1:01:28] Voice 14: to receive the final report from GW Solutions.

[1:01:33] Voice 14: And that the second one is to,

[1:01:35] Voice 14: for staff to work with the CRD and the province

[1:01:39] Voice 14: to identify funding and project management opportunities

[1:01:43] Voice 14: to undertake an environmental flow needs assessment

[1:01:45] Voice 14: for Lake Weston and Weston Creek.

[1:01:48] Voice 14: And that will continue on this conversation.

[1:01:54] Voice 14: So in staff's perspective, although this is,

[1:01:59] Voice 14: uh like although the water use is a fraction of the licensed volumes that are

[1:02:06] Voice 14: in the water licenses similar to saint mary lake that there are other factors that need to be

[1:02:14] Voice 14: considered including environmental flow needs and the lake level that are um that that are

[1:02:21] Voice 14: more determinant on the water availability than just what the province licensed whenever ago

[1:02:30] Voice 14: So, and another consideration for this is to strengthen our data collection on Weston Lake, or sorry, Lake Weston and Weston Creek.

[1:02:44] Voice 14: And I'm having, like I mentioned, I'm having discussions with CRD staff on how we can come up with a project.

[1:02:51] Voice 14: and they're they've already offered funding which is something that we're working through um to to

[1:02:58] Voice 14: determine uh a potential uh maybe not so much a lower license limit of the lake because that's

[1:03:06] Voice 14: a discussion to have with the province but perhaps provide the full fur water district

[1:03:12] Voice 14: evidence-based data to control their conservation levels right now their conservation levels are

[1:03:20] Voice 14: just based on the calendar like a calendar year date which is has nothing to do with what's

[1:03:25] Voice 14: happening so that would be more similar to what north salt spring undertakes with their

[1:03:34] Voice 14: conservation levels on on saint mary lake they look at their at the lake level and and then

[1:03:41] Voice 14: estimate what they have to do to conserve water so they don't reach their lower licensing and

[1:03:49] Voice 14: And, yeah, I'll just finish off to say this was a very successful project.

[1:03:58] Voice 14: It was pretty hands-on with staff.

[1:04:01] Voice 14: We needed to help the consultant understand why we're doing this,

[1:04:07] Voice 14: and I think that is reflected in their final report,

[1:04:11] Voice 14: and I think it's quite a useful document.

[1:04:13] Voice 14: it begs to the elected officials and other people of decision to continue on this work this is not

[1:04:22] Voice 14: like the final thing to go forward and say like western lake either has or has not water

[1:04:30] Voice 14: however as a person who has been worked in watershed geoscience for a while it seems like

[1:04:37] Voice 14: like the lake is either allocated or nearing allocation,

[1:04:44] Voice 14: and then with the influence of climate change,

[1:04:46] Voice 14: there needs to be some significant conservation

[1:04:50] Voice 14: that's put in with just the existing reserves.

[1:04:54] Voice 14: And going forward with any addition of licenses,

[1:05:02] Voice 14: of course, this will be considered by the province,

[1:05:04] Voice 14: which is very helpful.

[1:05:06] Voice 14: and I'm hoping from from this that the province would would agree to do a project with us to

[1:05:14] Voice 14: identify to understand licensing at this time I would I would suggest that any expansion of

[1:05:23] Voice 14: Fulford should not happen until that is further studied and if there is a significant application

[1:05:33] Voice 14: location that needs water they should apply for their own license on on the lake and then use

[1:05:38] Voice 14: shared works to get the water to where it's going thanks thank

[1:05:45] Trustee Grove (probable): you questions

[1:05:46] Trustee Patrick: um

[1:05:47] Trustee Grove (probable): that's a great

[1:05:51] Trustee Grove (probable): report thank you and not really asking for specific action from us um a very uh maybe a silly question

[1:05:59] Trustee Grove (probable): why do we keep talking about Lake Western rather Western Lake Lake West is the legal term is the

[1:06:05] Voice 14: legal name legal from martin's point of view uh from the bc lakes uh register okay the name's

[1:06:13] Voice 14: escaping me now but yeah but we're all stumbling over it

[1:06:16] Voice 14: yeah i know it's it's lake west and lake

[1:06:19] Voice 14: max okay fun

[1:06:20] Voice 14: mary lake uh stall lake and bullet way okay

[1:06:25] Trustee Grove (probable): i don't know if you have to live with it

[1:06:26] Trustee Grove (probable): so you know i don't have any but thank you very much for your work and your report

[1:06:31] Trustee Grove (probable): I

[1:06:31] Trustee Patrick: have a few comments. I think one is thank you for the report. And I really see Lake Weston and the Colford Water Service and all of the issues sort of as an opportunity to advance.

[1:06:54] Trustee Patrick: advance um you know I think we always are you know known for pointing one to another and even

[1:07:02] Trustee Patrick: in your report you make reference to well water service or CRD could be created so um I think this

[1:07:08] Trustee Patrick: is an opportunity to really look at watershed governance and the the relationships between

[1:07:16] Trustee Patrick: water use and land use as being really you know they aren't separate items they are they are linked

[1:07:23] Trustee Patrick: and um you know so i really think this is a good time you know to kind of uh uh bring the bring

[1:07:32] Trustee Patrick: all the various groups together and talk about um i said watershed governance and as well the

[1:07:40] Trustee Patrick: the water objectives uh under the water sustainability act that this is potentially

[1:07:46] Trustee Patrick: potentially we're looking for those opportunities.

[1:07:49] Trustee Patrick: I think Fulford water service,

[1:07:54] Trustee Patrick: even though the service extends outside their watershed,

[1:07:57] Trustee Patrick: but I think it's just a real interesting opportunity to,

[1:08:02] Trustee Patrick: let's see if we can get this right for the future

[1:08:07] Trustee Patrick: rather than continuing on having different fingers

[1:08:11] Trustee Patrick: in the lake, so to speak.

[1:08:15] Trustee Patrick: um so um and the other question i would have is while i i agree with of course sharing the

[1:08:27] Trustee Patrick: report with swipa but how to manage that conversation um as to you know the owners

[1:08:36] Trustee Patrick: of the report or the owners of the project and i think they need to be involved in design you

[1:08:44] Trustee Patrick: not designing but participating in that conversation when they're ready are they

[1:08:47] Trustee Patrick: ready to have that conversation now that they want um you know information just shared from

[1:08:53] Trustee Patrick: several parties or uh or not so there's a bit of a timing question i i would look to you know the

[1:09:00] Trustee Patrick: other you know crd potentially even the province would want to review this to time you know when

[1:09:07] Trustee Patrick: they want to have that dialogue with swipa so that it's beneficial um because it might be better to

[1:09:13] Trustee Patrick: wait till either Flunro provides their data or maybe Flunro wants to hear the comments before

[1:09:18] Trustee Patrick: they write the report so there's a little bit of a timing question the report can go immediately

[1:09:24] Trustee Patrick: but it's the timing of the conversation so that it benefits I'll

[1:09:29] Voice 14: speak to that like so well Flunro's

[1:09:30] Voice 14: no longer Flunro oh whatever

[1:09:32] Voice 14: I'm sorry forest and land whatever terrible ever

[1:09:36] Trustee Patrick: keep up with names

[1:09:37] Trustee Patrick: um

[1:09:38] Voice 14: that they i guess showed maybe a slight disappointment that they haven't seen the

[1:09:45] Voice 14: report yet but we said it needs to come here first and so the staff are eagerly waiting

[1:09:50] Voice 14: well now they have it so it's part of the agenda package so um they're that they would want to

[1:09:56] Voice 14: review it first i imagine before stepping into a conversation with especially since the

[1:10:01] Voice 14: full for water system there like they have a very unique and and delicate role to play in this right

[1:10:09] Voice 14: because this was before the question of the license saying regardless of what you've licensed

[1:10:18] Voice 14: that the the environmental flow needs and and the water balance is showing an over allocation

[1:10:25] Voice 14: during like or almost like a in staff's perspective a fully allocate calen lake with

[1:10:33] Voice 14: current use the license use is like like to the moon there's you know unless they took it during

[1:10:39] Voice 14: the winter same with north salt spring and saint mary lake they could likely realize their water

[1:10:45] Voice 14: license that they took it during the winter but everyone needs the water in the summer and that's

[1:10:50] Voice 14: what impacts their withdrawals annually so um i i imagine that the province would need to have a

[1:10:57] Voice 14: pretty delicate review of this internally and then i would hope that they would write some type of

[1:11:05] Voice 14: letter back to us before we have that discussion but if they just want to go right into a discussion

[1:11:10] Voice 14: without formally providing us something then that's well

[1:11:14] Trustee Patrick: that's yeah so it's just sort of

[1:11:15] Trustee Patrick: the wording of the fourth resolution there is to you know do we we still want to say refer

[1:11:23] Trustee Patrick: to swipa but for information i would take out the end discussion yeah that's what i just thought

[1:11:28] Trustee Patrick: because that could we can always when they receive it let them know that we'll you know yes you know

[1:11:34] Trustee Patrick: plan a discussion but let's let you know plan it to work with the owners of the report so they can

[1:11:39] Trustee Patrick: be all working

[1:11:41] Voice 14: okay and and i imagine that that end discussion would come beyond october 15th which

[1:11:48] Voice 14: which would likely or possibly lead to new chairs or yeah i you know and also i think

[1:11:58] Voice 14: there's also the the the econics work that's ongoing the strategy the

[1:12:02] Voice 14: strategy so like that's

[1:12:04] Voice 14: that's also part of that right so um I I would yeah

[1:12:11] Trustee Patrick: no I think again like like talking about

[1:12:13] Trustee Patrick: water governance and so forth I think this is also a chance to talk how how is SWPA

[1:12:17] Trustee Patrick: with the strategic plan going to work

[1:12:21] Voice 14: yeah I I would um I would actually like to see that

[1:12:27] Voice 14: and discussion uh belong in resolution three perhaps that like staff of the crd and violence

[1:12:36] Voice 14: trust have a discussion with with the province because right now we're saying we're going to

[1:12:43] Voice 14: send the report to the province for their information review and then comment and so

[1:12:50] Trustee Patrick: well i think i have a motion that i'm going to be bringing asking staff to work with those parties

[1:12:56] Trustee Patrick: parties anyway on that top of water governance so okay I think

[1:12:59] Voice 14: that would cover

[1:12:59] Trustee Patrick: I would hope

[1:13:00] Trustee Patrick: you would talk about the report during that meeting so okay

[1:13:03] Voice 14: so I yeah I would I I like

[1:13:06] Voice 14: your suggestion chair okay I don't know what to call you right now um Laura to yeah the end

[1:13:14] Voice 14: discussion part could be removed from the sofa because we don't want to be beholden to that

[1:13:19] Voice 14: that right now okay

[1:13:20] Trustee Grove (probable): let me ask what role has swipper played in this exercise so far uh they

[1:13:26] Voice 14: played a coordination role with with this so because this was a crd um project even though it

[1:13:35] Voice 14: was it largely happened outside of the swipper sphere um because it was a crd project eilish

[1:13:45] Voice 14: trust put in the money and we had a memorandum of understanding between the crd and that was

[1:13:52] Voice 14: trust that wasn't through um however the like i mentioned in my preamble is that the uh the work

[1:14:05] Voice 14: that was undertaken by the water preservation society the freshwater catalog uh the western

[1:14:12] Voice 14: and creek flow monitoring that that was a critical piece of information here and and largely that was

[1:14:19] Voice 14: coordinated into the project by swifa and also the technical advisory group was

[1:14:28] Voice 14: somewhat involved but it so swifa was not as heavily involved as like a swiffer

[1:14:33] Voice 14: coordinated project but they were they were i would say instrumental to that so swiffer has

[1:14:41] Trustee Grove (probable): not seen this report yet not

[1:14:43] Voice 14: not the elected like not the official not the steering committee the

[1:14:47] Trustee Patrick: lead

[1:14:47] Voice 14: agencies the lead agencies have seen of course and then also um a few select members

[1:14:55] Voice 14: of the technical advisory committee has but once this gets referred for information

[1:15:00] Voice 14: to swipa i imagine then the steering committee would say well we're going to give this a

[1:15:06] Voice 14: the technical advisory group to to kind of pick apart and then they would likely then present it

[1:15:14] Voice 14: back to but i'm oddly on that technical advisory group so that's a little bit weird but and then

[1:15:21] Voice 14: and then i imagine by that time there would be a discussion that probably possibly be workshop

[1:15:30] Voice 14: shop it's all about timing yeah okay

[1:15:33] Trustee Patrick: well if you want to if you want to proceed with the first two

[1:15:37] Trustee Patrick: motions yes

[1:15:37] Trustee Grove (probable): a couple of

[1:15:38] Trustee Patrick: wording tweaks on the

[1:15:38] Trustee Grove (probable): side i'll move that the salisbury and local trust

[1:15:40] Trustee Grove (probable): committee received the lake western water availability and climate change assessment

[1:15:44] Trustee Grove (probable): final report attached to spendings one to the staff report of august 24 2022.

[1:15:49] Trustee Patrick: i'll second that

[1:15:51] Trustee Patrick: any discussion no call the

[1:15:53] Trustee Patrick: vote all those in favor that's carried and

[1:15:55] Trustee Grove (probable): i'll move the

[1:15:56] Trustee Grove (probable): salisbury local trust committee request staff to work with the capital regional district and

[1:16:00] Trustee Grove (probable): government of british columbia to identify funding and project management opportunities to undertake

[1:16:04] Trustee Grove (probable): an environmental flow needs assessment for lake western and western creek i'll second any

[1:16:10] Trustee Patrick: discussion call the vote all those in favor not two carries okay i'm gonna do number three i have

[1:16:16] Trustee Patrick: a slight in the language and i think uh sarah has that so i moved at the salzburg island local

[1:16:21] Trustee Patrick: trust committee request staff to refer lake western water availability and climate change

[1:16:25] Trustee Patrick: assessment final report and the september 6 2024 staff report to the ministry of forests

[1:16:32] Trustee Patrick: water authorizations branch for information review and comment just

[1:16:36] Voice 14: one point of order

[1:16:38] Voice 14: it's just kind of odd because in recommendation one we're saying the staff report is august 24th

[1:16:44] Voice 14: is when we like jason i finished but it's for the date of the meeting and maybe staff can chime in

[1:16:50] Voice 14: i don't know which one it is because you just said ah you said the report of september 6th

[1:16:56] Voice 14: for the data meeting i always think of these reports as the date of the meeting not when

[1:17:00] Voice 14: we finish them but maybe that's just to work that out

[1:17:04] Trustee Patrick: yeah that's what i was kind of tweaking on

[1:17:07] Trustee Patrick: that one then i realized they are different um i don't know

[1:17:10] Trustee Patrick: any lisa do you have lisa do you

[1:17:13] Trustee Patrick: have a recommendation there um what date should we refer to for the staff report i'm not sure

[1:17:18] Voice 7: chair you're looking at this report you're talking about which is september 6th yeah it's just the

[1:17:24] Voice 14: fact that we both signed it on august 24th and that's what the recommendation one we typically

[1:17:31] Voice 7: refer

[1:17:31] Trustee Patrick: to the day of the meeting yeah okay so

[1:17:34] Voice 14: maybe we can have a friend we

[1:17:35] Trustee Patrick: need to amend

[1:17:36] Trustee Patrick: we should amend motion one yeah okay well let's finish this motion and then we can go back and

[1:17:42] Voice 4: amend that

[1:17:43] Trustee Patrick: one um all right um can we amend amend a motion after it's been made you

[1:17:51] Trustee Grove (probable): might have to

[1:17:51] Trustee Grove (probable): just make another question okay

[1:17:53] Trustee Patrick: um yeah we can either rescind it okay anyway sorry brain's

[1:18:00] Trustee Patrick: thinking about that okay um any further discussion on this motion that's on the floor no i'll call

[1:18:08] Trustee Patrick: the vote all those in favor and that's carried and then

[1:18:12] Voice 3: number four i'll

[1:18:13] Trustee Patrick: do number four um

[1:18:14] Trustee Patrick: um move a move that the salt spring island local trust committee request staff to refer the lake

[1:18:20] Trustee Patrick: western water availability climate change assessment final report the salt spring island

[1:18:25] Trustee Patrick: watershed protection um alliance uh for information and

[1:18:31] Trustee Grove (probable): i'll second that is

[1:18:33] Trustee Patrick: there any discussion

[1:18:33] Trustee Patrick: all the vote all those in favor and that's carried okay so we should receive well um or what or

[1:18:42] Voice 6: yes we usually say uh the staff report dated august 24th like the date that the staff report

[1:18:52] Voice 6: or it would be received on september 6th but the staff report is dated august 24th

[1:19:03] Trustee Grove (probable): Um, so we don't you don't think we need to do anything. I mean, it's very clear to me that it's, I mean, I think we're splitting hairs. Yeah,

[1:19:10] Trustee Patrick: no, as long as it's, I think, just, I think it's pick a consistent. I

[1:19:14] Voice 14: think I think your motion should say August 24. Okay, thank you.

[1:19:18] Trustee Patrick: Staff report dated August. I think,

[1:19:20] Trustee Patrick: just, I think we can just fix those dates. I don't think we have to state the motion.

[1:19:24] Trustee Patrick: just so it's the the correct consistent date for this staff report that's in front of us okay

[1:19:32] Trustee Grove (probable): thank you all

[1:19:32] Trustee Patrick: right i did have one more motion that i wanted to make

[1:19:36] Trustee Patrick: um i'm sure i have the versions here thank you william for your comments to wording so i move

[1:19:45] Trustee Patrick: that the salt spring island local trust committee requests staff to coordinate a discussion

[1:19:48] Trustee Patrick: discussion with the province, the Capital Regional District, Islands Trust, and POLIS

[1:19:55] Trustee Patrick: on the topic of watershed governance and the potential application of water objectives under

[1:20:03] Trustee Patrick: the Water Sustainability Act in the Lake Weston watershed, specifically in reference to the

[1:20:09] Trustee Patrick: water objectives innovation brief and towards watershed security, the role of water and

[1:20:15] Trustee Patrick: modernized land use planning in bc prepared by polis all right

[1:20:22] Trustee Grove (probable): quite a mouthful yeah there's a

[1:20:25] Trustee Grove (probable): discussion

[1:20:26] Voice 14: can i just just for the sake of trustee growth so those

[1:20:31] Voice 14: two reports are by polis polis is

[1:20:35] Voice 14: a project of watershed governance out of the university of victoria and they were in early

[1:20:41] Voice 14: early discussions with Islands Trust

[1:20:43] Voice 14: to develop a technical advisory group

[1:20:47] Voice 14: or commission for freshwater.

[1:20:49] Voice 14: That kind of got stalled

[1:20:51] Voice 14: and then it moved to the freshwater sustainability strategy

[1:20:53] Voice 14: because we got the funding for that.

[1:20:55] Voice 14: But that first discussion I spoke with now

[1:21:00] Voice 14: Director of Ledge Services, David Marla,

[1:21:02] Voice 14: that like we should talk about that again,

[1:21:05] Voice 14: which means having a group of experts

[1:21:08] Voice 14: that sit around a table

[1:21:10] Voice 14: that would help us with these technical decisions.

[1:21:13] Voice 14: So this might be a good case study

[1:21:16] Voice 14: to start that discussion again.

[1:21:18] Voice 14: And those two reports, the water objectives brief

[1:21:22] Voice 14: and the modernized land use planning documents from POLIS

[1:21:27] Voice 14: are kind of like trying to put the step forward

[1:21:29] Voice 14: for the province to move in that direction.

[1:21:31] Voice 14: So I think that it's a good move.

[1:21:36] Voice 14: I

[1:21:37] Trustee Patrick: think this watershed, I think we have the opportunity to do it right.

[1:21:42] Trustee Patrick: I mean, North Salt Springs, I'd love to say, hey, let's use North Salt Springs, but I think that we've got some challenges for saying that.

[1:21:49] Trustee Patrick: This, I think, is a perfect example of good size.

[1:21:52] Trustee Patrick: and also with the Seau Reservation lands down there,

[1:21:57] Trustee Patrick: both of these reports that POLIS has prepared

[1:22:00] Trustee Patrick: and are fully about integrating

[1:22:03] Trustee Patrick: with First Nations involvement.

[1:22:05] Trustee Patrick: And the reference to modernized land use planning

[1:22:09] Trustee Patrick: is about modernized land use planning with First Nations.

[1:22:13] Trustee Patrick: So I think this is really worth a good conversation.

[1:22:20] Trustee Patrick: This motion is basically asking staff

[1:22:22] Trustee Patrick: to initiate these conversations if initial conversations go well i think you'd be back

[1:22:27] Trustee Patrick: saying we need political support to make this move up up into something more exciting um

[1:22:34] Trustee Grove (probable): great but

[1:22:35] Trustee Grove (probable): this is all shouting swiffer at me isn't this what we set swiffer up to do

[1:22:41] Trustee Patrick: no i mean it perhaps originally um but time has moved on um you know the water sustainability

[1:22:51] Trustee Patrick: act didn't wasn't there um and collaborative watershed and and really linking water and land

[1:23:01] Trustee Patrick: use planning um so this is governance models that are um and and engaging first nation so it's it's

[1:23:12] Trustee Patrick: it's quite a bit different okay um

[1:23:14] Trustee Patrick: and there's not a lot of examples in the province yet uh the

[1:23:18] Trustee Patrick: province created the water sustainability act and we're still waiting to see it play out and

[1:23:25] Trustee Patrick: i think like i said i think this is an opportunity that we need to try to position um you know we

[1:23:33] Trustee Patrick: have a complicated role of how people are active and like set up with the with the reserve lands

[1:23:41] Trustee Patrick: and the interests in the fulford area i think this is a fantastic combination and

[1:23:47] Trustee Grove (probable): i don't disagree

[1:23:48] Trustee Grove (probable): having said that though it does make me wonder about the continuing value of swipper

[1:23:54] Voice 3: so

[1:23:56] Voice 14: i think that this is a like this is higher than swipper yeah so this is like let's talk

[1:24:04] Voice 14: about this very important thing and then i imagine through these conversations if they

[1:24:09] Voice 14: are successful there will be a discussion of coordination role and then that's that's well

[1:24:15] Voice 14: Well, like SWPPP is a coordination body.

[1:24:17] Voice 14: I think for a long time,

[1:24:19] Voice 14: SWPPP tried to reach a little bit higher than coordination.

[1:24:22] Voice 14: And so this is trying to get something real,

[1:24:26] Voice 14: get the province on board.

[1:24:28] Voice 14: I mean, for water objectives,

[1:24:29] Voice 14: if this becomes a thing, it needs to go to cabinet.

[1:24:32] Voice 14: Like that's even beyond the LTC almost, right?

[1:24:36] Voice 14: Like we probably need the grace of trust council

[1:24:39] Voice 14: to take on something like that.

[1:24:40] Voice 14: So these are like higher level discussions.

[1:24:43] Voice 14: and then I imagine if there is something

[1:24:47] Voice 14: that is the fruitful project out of here,

[1:24:49] Voice 14: then SWPA could likely play a coordination role

[1:24:53] Voice 14: with us little staff links.

[1:24:55] Voice 14: Like I'll help support this,

[1:24:57] Voice 14: but it's likely gonna take a director

[1:24:59] Voice 14: to really get it going, you know?

[1:25:01] Trustee Patrick: Absolutely.

[1:25:02] Voice 14: And

[1:25:03] Trustee Patrick: I mean, SWPA with the strategic planning,

[1:25:05] Trustee Patrick: I mean, I did bring this project to Kirk's attention as well

[1:25:09] Trustee Patrick: so that as he's developing the strategic plan,

[1:25:13] Trustee Patrick: capture these things so good

[1:25:14] Voice 3: so

[1:25:16] Trustee Patrick: any further discussion thank you i'll call the vote all

[1:25:19] Trustee Patrick: those in favor carry good i think it's uh i'd like to see watershed governance move to a

[1:25:27] Trustee Patrick: new level and like this this one has me really excited and uh is worth the worth a try good

[1:25:33] Trustee Patrick: okay with that that brings us to the end of our morning session it

[1:25:38] Trustee Grove (probable): does indeed well chad

[1:25:39] Trustee Grove (probable): and

[1:25:39] Trustee Patrick: uh we will break now until noon and we'll initiate at noon good so i guess we're

[1:25:46] Trustee Patrick: we

[1:25:48] Trustee Grove (probable): are we

[1:25:49] Trustee Patrick: are recessed

[1:25:58] Voice 4: are we still broadcasting rob

[1:26:11] Voice 4: what do you want

[2:14:35] Voice 4: There we go.

[2:14:40] Trustee Patrick: Chair Luckum is not with us today, and so I'm stepping in and I'm being the chair of this meeting as well as a trustee, so please bear with me as I try to double duty here.

[2:14:52] Trustee Patrick: So I'm going to call back to order the meeting. We did meet this morning on business, and this is continuing on in the afternoon.

[2:15:02] Trustee Patrick: So I'm going to begin with trustee reports.

[2:15:05] Trustee Patrick: I guess you can go first.

[2:15:08] Trustee Grove (probable): Thank you. I'm going to be very short because I think it's appropriate when one is on the

[2:15:14] Trustee Grove (probable): way out, unlike some politicians from across the water, I'm thinking England, not here.

[2:15:24] Trustee Grove (probable): I'm keeping a low profile and just want to support the process, support my fellow trustee

[2:15:32] Trustee Grove (probable): Laura Patrick in any way I can and so I have nothing specific to say I do want to let you

[2:15:42] Trustee Grove (probable): know and I think you've probably read about it we have a an excellent regional planning manager

[2:15:47] Trustee Grove (probable): full-time starting later this month Chris Hutton we're looking forward to welcoming him and

[2:15:57] Trustee Grove (probable): and Lisa Garbo has been filling in and doing a great job for us for which we are very appreciative

[2:16:01] Trustee Grove (probable): but um no uh sorry to disappoint you um chair or acting chair but um i'm gonna leave it in your

[2:16:08] Trustee Grove (probable): hands okay

[2:16:09] Trustee Patrick: uh all right well i was gonna say i'll start with what the chair hopefully would

[2:16:14] Trustee Patrick: have talked about and that is trust council is coming up the final trust council meeting of the

[2:16:19] Trustee Patrick: term will be september 20th to 21st uh the public um town hall is i haven't it's it's likely on the

[2:16:31] Trustee Patrick: evening of the 20th so do pay attention if you're interested in um oh i thought that was peter for a

[2:16:37] Trustee Patrick: second oh sure that's what changed um so um uh please keep an eye out for that okay so my report

[2:16:48] Trustee Patrick: um august is always supposed to be a light month for meetings but it's been it's been busy um i

[2:16:55] Trustee Patrick: chaired three north pender local trust committee meetings as uh they're trying to wrap up their

[2:17:00] Trustee Patrick: land use review project land use bylaw review project i also chaired the skidi and thetis

[2:17:07] Trustee Patrick: island the local trust committee meeting participated in a number of trust council

[2:17:13] Trustee Patrick: standing committee meetings for regional planning finance and governance and in preparation for the

[2:17:20] Trustee Patrick: august 24th regional planning committee i was a member of a sub working group that

[2:17:26] Trustee Patrick: was working on drafting drafting a letter to the province to outline the particular housing

[2:17:33] Trustee Patrick: affordability challenges that we have in the trust area and to request the province to explore what

[2:17:39] Trustee Patrick: can be done to create housing solutions specific to rural islands in the trust area

[2:17:43] Trustee Patrick: including options for stable secure funding we collected quotes from a number of reports

[2:17:50] Trustee Patrick: recent reports that we could cite for the issues

[2:17:55] Trustee Patrick: that we're facing.

[2:17:56] Trustee Patrick: One of the reports was a report

[2:17:58] Trustee Patrick: by the Human Early Learning Partnership for UBC,

[2:18:01] Trustee Patrick: and that was for schools district 64.

[2:18:06] Trustee Patrick: And it shows childhood vulnerability

[2:18:11] Trustee Patrick: in the Southern Gulf Islands is trending up,

[2:18:13] Trustee Patrick: and that's not a good direction.

[2:18:15] Trustee Patrick: action.

[2:18:17] Trustee Patrick: Vulnerable children are those that without additional support and care are more likely

[2:18:21] Trustee Patrick: to experience future challenges on the school years and beyond.

[2:18:25] Trustee Patrick: And housing is playing a role in the impact on our children.

[2:18:31] Trustee Patrick: I want to reiterate that the story of housing in these islands is full of sadness.

[2:18:36] Trustee Patrick: On one hand, we have more and more islanders being pushed out of housing and either leaving

[2:18:41] Trustee Patrick: the island or leaving living in substandard accommodations on the other hand we have a set

[2:18:46] Trustee Patrick: of rules that drive single-family homes which despite a high environmental footprint are not

[2:18:52] Trustee Patrick: facing much opposition um i'm glad you're here gary because i was gonna say i looked at the the

[2:18:58] Trustee Patrick: crd website just to see where i always like to gauge where building permits are and i sure hope

[2:19:04] Trustee Patrick: it's a typo but if it's not this end of july we're at 540 building permits which is a 507

[2:19:11] Trustee Patrick: percent increase from the year before so either there's a typo in there uh building permits could

[2:19:16] Trustee Patrick: be minor could be a deck to a house so it's just a you know just the fact that it's a lot but that's

[2:19:22] Trustee Patrick: a really large number so something sticks out i looked at the number of houses uh uh and uh what

[2:19:29] Trustee Patrick: they would call apartment units but units within a multi-family housing that have been built since

[2:19:34] Trustee Patrick: since January 1, 2018 to the end of July.

[2:19:36] Trustee Patrick: And we had 82 apartment units

[2:19:39] Trustee Patrick: versus 193 single family homes.

[2:19:44] Trustee Patrick: I think it'd be interesting to compare

[2:19:46] Trustee Patrick: the environmental impact of building the multifamily units

[2:19:51] Trustee Patrick: in three buildings with 82 approximately units

[2:19:56] Trustee Patrick: against the 193 single family homes.

[2:19:59] Trustee Patrick: It also be interesting to compare the approval processes

[2:20:02] Trustee Patrick: between those 82 units and the 193 single family homes.

[2:20:08] Trustee Patrick: I do know Gary did provide some data back

[2:20:10] Trustee Patrick: on a three-year period from 2019 to 2021

[2:20:14] Trustee Patrick: on the size of houses that were being built.

[2:20:25] Trustee Patrick: And that was interesting too.

[2:20:28] Trustee Patrick: too, but if the bulk of them were, well, I guess it's different sizes, but an interesting

[2:20:39] Trustee Patrick: day to look at.

[2:20:41] Trustee Patrick: I'm not proud of the way some of the conversations went on accessory dwelling units.

[2:20:49] Trustee Patrick: We had established a number of principles for the housing action program, and they're

[2:20:56] Trustee Patrick: in the project charter, but there's a couple of them.

[2:20:58] Trustee Patrick: one principle was that the LTC will early and throughout the process facilitate regular open

[2:21:03] Trustee Patrick: dialogue with full spectrum of community and First Nations. The LTC understands that achieving

[2:21:09] Trustee Patrick: consensus may be difficult and through dialogue we can search for common understanding. I did try

[2:21:16] Trustee Patrick: to slow down the process but there's a lot of challenges that were going on and I knew that

[2:21:21] Trustee Patrick: holding one community information middle meeting in the middle of July was definitely not a best

[2:21:26] Trustee Patrick: practice uh this morning we've asked that more work be done on bylaw 530 um to address a number

[2:21:33] Trustee Patrick: of the issues you know that said with the with the with not being a best practice the public hearing

[2:21:39] Trustee Patrick: was informative interesting people came engaged and really shared you know good examples of what

[2:21:46] Trustee Patrick: what could be done and that was a a good moment uh for for salt spring and we did listen and we

[2:21:53] Trustee Patrick: we have directed staff to take more work.

[2:21:57] Trustee Patrick: The other principle that we have,

[2:21:59] Trustee Patrick: or one of our other, we have a whole series of principles,

[2:22:02] Trustee Patrick: but the LTC decision should be balanced

[2:22:04] Trustee Patrick: and acutely aware of social

[2:22:06] Trustee Patrick: and environmental economic elements

[2:22:08] Trustee Patrick: that are rooted in sustainability and justice.

[2:22:11] Trustee Patrick: Good solutions are integrated solutions

[2:22:13] Trustee Patrick: that will also address other challenges

[2:22:15] Trustee Patrick: and crises we face on Salt Spring.

[2:22:27] Trustee Patrick: It's always frustrating for me

[2:22:30] Trustee Patrick: because I have always talked about and have interpreted the mandate of the Islands Trust

[2:22:39] Trustee Patrick: in its entirety. It's a whole paragraph, not a couple of words. And I believe in preserving

[2:22:46] Trustee Patrick: and protecting our human community and our natural ecosystems. And I see these as intertwined.

[2:22:53] Trustee Patrick: And it's not just me. I think it's important if you haven't been to the art display from the

[2:22:59] Trustee Patrick: the Elliott family at Mann Hall, you should go.

[2:23:04] Trustee Patrick: But Dr. Elliott in this curated book says,

[2:23:06] Trustee Patrick: the creator told the people

[2:23:09] Trustee Patrick: that we should look after the land

[2:23:12] Trustee Patrick: as we would our relatives.

[2:23:14] Trustee Patrick: The trees, the ocean, the land,

[2:23:16] Trustee Patrick: the Gulf Islands are our relatives

[2:23:18] Trustee Patrick: and it's our sacred law to protect them

[2:23:20] Trustee Patrick: as we would our family.

[2:23:23] Trustee Patrick: And I, you know, First Nations,

[2:23:25] Trustee Patrick: my learning so far that I've had experience with

[2:23:29] Trustee Patrick: because they always speak integrated it's not one or the other it's people in place it's it's

[2:23:36] Trustee Patrick: that they are intertwined and i truly believe that and that's my report thank you

[2:23:43] Trustee Patrick: gary over to you

[2:23:48] Voice 8: thank you very much thanks laura and i apologize for being late um just so

[2:23:56] Voice 8: So to remind people, we not only have the local elections coming up, I will be standing for re-election, but also there's a referendum on the local community commission, the intent of which is to broaden CRD representation.

[2:24:12] Voice 8: presentation. And the information about that bylaw, the bylaw itself and the frequently asked

[2:24:22] Voice 8: question document is on the CRD website, crd.bc.ca slash vote. So go to the website if you want more

[2:24:32] Voice 8: information. There are going to be candidate debates. The LCC will come up, I'm sure.

[2:24:40] Voice 8: there there's at least one group that will be providing information to the

[2:24:47] Voice 8: public about the local community commission proposal there may be groups

[2:24:52] Voice 8: for and against I'm not sure anyway you can go to the CRT website to get more

[2:24:57] Voice 8: information of course you can also call myself at any time on in the book if you

[2:25:04] Voice 8: have questions um the crd provisional budget will be approved by the crd board on september 23rd

[2:25:14] Voice 8: typically every year i've done a public budget presentation this year because of the election

[2:25:22] Voice 8: i'm i'm not sure if that would be appropriate uh because it i may not be the director that um

[2:25:32] Voice 8: that follows through that with that budget to a final approval in March of next year.

[2:25:37] Voice 8: So I'm not sure if it would be appropriate for me to be presenting a budget at this time,

[2:25:41] Voice 8: given that there's an election.

[2:25:42] Voice 8: But there is a proposed 3.5% requisition increase for the CRD.

[2:25:49] Voice 8: The primary drivers for that requisition increase are taking over leasing of the middle school.

[2:26:00] Voice 8: which we only did um part way through halfway through this year so next year the full budget

[2:26:07] Voice 8: implication of that uh essentially we had to increase the parks and rec requisitions so that

[2:26:13] Voice 8: we could uh keep um rents for the facility affordable for the for the number of non-profit

[2:26:21] Voice 8: groups that are leasing the the school so that was a budget driver the saturday market

[2:26:28] Voice 8: parks and rec will be devolving that to a non-profit group and in doing so their proposal

[2:26:37] Voice 8: involved parks and rec giving up about fifty thousand dollars a year in revenue that we

[2:26:44] Voice 8: generate from fees in order to ensure that the that the society that was specifically formed to

[2:26:53] Voice 8: operate the market uh get you know gets a good start they we're not sure um how they're going

[2:27:01] Voice 8: to do in terms of their viability so we've um we've accepted their proposal resulting in a

[2:27:09] Voice 8: revenue decrease which means the requisition has to be increased to offset that all for a good

[2:27:16] Voice 8: good cause, though, I believe. The library is continuing the gradual process of professionalizing

[2:27:26] Voice 8: the operation of the library. It's moving away from entirely volunteer-run to being staff-run.

[2:27:32] Voice 8: So yeah, it used to be volunteer-run, staff-supported. Now it's staff-supported

[2:27:37] Voice 8: and the volunteer assistance.

[2:27:40] Voice 8: So we've continued to support the library over the years,

[2:27:46] Voice 8: previous directors as well, to help hire more staff.

[2:27:50] Voice 8: Transit revenues, still transit is coming back.

[2:27:54] Voice 8: Ridership is back about 75% of pre-COVID levels,

[2:27:58] Voice 8: but there's still an impact on our transit revenue.

[2:28:00] Voice 8: So there's an impact there.

[2:28:03] Voice 8: So these are the kinds of things that would be presented

[2:28:05] Voice 8: in a public presentation.

[2:28:07] Voice 8: but I think that should wait until after the election on October 15th

[2:28:12] Voice 8: for whoever is elected as director to present the budget.

[2:28:17] Voice 8: You may have read in the driftwood that the Malibu sewer system

[2:28:23] Voice 8: received a provincial grant of $2 million,

[2:28:25] Voice 8: which is a godsend actually, quite frankly,

[2:28:29] Voice 8: because that plant needs substantial upgrading in order to meet its

[2:28:33] Voice 8: um operating permits uh to meet the the uh the uh treatment standard required by provincial and

[2:28:41] Voice 8: federal agencies so that two million will uh cover most of the cost local uh rate payers will still

[2:28:49] Voice 8: have to contribute um ten percent of uh of the ultimate cost of that but it's a it's a real win

[2:28:56] Voice 8: win for the Malibu rate payers.

[2:29:01] Voice 8: The Mount Erskine Water District

[2:29:04] Voice 8: will be entering into discussions with the CRD

[2:29:07] Voice 8: about converting to a CRD entity.

[2:29:10] Voice 8: So there'll be a feasibility study

[2:29:12] Voice 8: for which we're getting some provincial funding

[2:29:15] Voice 8: to help with that, to look at their system,

[2:29:17] Voice 8: look at the needs for upgrading the system,

[2:29:19] Voice 8: but they are exploring the idea of becoming a CRD entity.

[2:29:27] Voice 8: Transportation, there's a whole number of things happening on the transportation file.

[2:29:32] Voice 8: We've got a grant to hire a consultant to do an active transportation study for Ganges Village.

[2:29:39] Voice 8: That'll be continuing the North Ganges Transportation Plan right through the village.

[2:29:44] Voice 8: And then MOT is committed to repaving Ganges Hill.

[2:29:48] Voice 8: But the black box in the middle is Ganges Village, which is more complicated, more congested.

[2:29:56] Voice 8: and so we've hired a consultant to mix

[2:30:00] Voice 8: recommendations for pedestrian cycling improvements for the village uh the there's a

[2:30:07] Voice 8: whole number of other things on transport but i i i won't go into them uh in detail here today um

[2:30:15] Voice 8: seery bylaw enforcement we were running into difficulties as with other agencies in terms

[2:30:20] Voice 8: of staffing issues uh our long-time permanent employee on salt spring is on uh on leave i

[2:30:29] Voice 8: believe for health reasons uh we do have staff vacancies so we're we're actually getting staff

[2:30:37] Voice 8: from victoria to come over and um and uh uh uh uh monitor what's going on in salt spring

[2:30:45] Voice 8: particularly in centennial uh park but it's difficult because they're having to come

[2:30:50] Voice 8: victoria so we're actually paying for the their travel time and ferry costs and all of that but

[2:30:55] Voice 8: there's a lot of organizations that are uh incurring staff issues from bc fairies go down

[2:31:02] Voice 8: the list and crd is no exception there we're we're doing our best and doing our best to

[2:31:07] Voice 8: work with the rcmp who are now starting to put up signage you may have noticed on hereford and

[2:31:13] Voice 8: overnight camping overnight parking that gives the rcmp the authority to move um vehicles that are

[2:31:23] Voice 8: parking there in large part as i understand because of the housing difficulty people are

[2:31:28] Voice 8: actually living in vehicles it's happening not just on salt spring but throughout british columbia

[2:31:34] Voice 8: but we do in order to get authority to move people on if they're staying there for too long or they're

[2:31:40] Voice 8: they're not behaving well uh for whatever reason people are complaining that signage

[2:31:46] Voice 8: gives the rcpu the authority to move people on uh the sea breeze drake road situation um

[2:31:55] Voice 8: continues to be a difficult one bc housing now has established temporary accommodation

[2:32:00] Voice 8: at king's lane it's ready to go it's ready to accept folks but uh the tenants at sea breeze

[2:32:05] Voice 8: are challenging um their uh the request for them to leave they believe that they have tenants rights

[2:32:16] Voice 8: that are not being adequately uh respected at least some of them have gone to the provincial

[2:32:22] Voice 8: tenancy branch to dispute um their eviction if that's the right word to use so it continues to

[2:32:29] Voice 8: be a difficult problem it's bc housing's problem they're trying to work it out with the tenants

[2:32:33] Voice 8: They're trying to work it out with the hospital foundation, which, of course, wants to start renovating the Seabreeze so they can provide housing for health workers.

[2:32:42] Voice 8: There are 35 to 40 vacancies in our hospital, in large part because people can't find housing.

[2:32:48] Voice 8: So we really do need to get on with that.

[2:32:52] Voice 8: But BCA Housing is struggling with the Seabreeze issue.

[2:32:57] Voice 8: Myself, the foundation have suggested to BCA Housing that they provide incentives for tenants to move so that the foundation can start renovating the building.

[2:33:11] Voice 8: But basically it's their issue and they continue to struggle with it.

[2:33:17] Voice 8: crd now actually it was funded by the trust but we've completed the study of western lake of the

[2:33:24] Voice 8: sustainability of westing lake going into the future so it's not just looking at the

[2:33:29] Voice 8: fulford district water license which draws its water from the lake but looking at all

[2:33:34] Voice 8: the licenses on the lake and looking at its sustainability over time the study is public now

[2:33:41] Voice 8: The initial results are precautionary, I would say. Already the lake appears to be oversubscribed.

[2:33:50] Voice 8: The license volumes that can be legally taken by the various license holders exceed the capacity

[2:33:57] Voice 8: of the lake already. We're not entirely sure, except for Fulford Water District which is metered,

[2:34:03] Voice 8: we're not entirely sure what those other licenses are drawing. So there's some big question marks

[2:34:07] Voice 8: around the sustainability of the Western Lake.

[2:34:10] Voice 8: And we're not meeting the environmental flows

[2:34:13] Voice 8: that are required to go into Western Creek for fisheries.

[2:34:17] Voice 8: So that's already the situation.

[2:34:19] Voice 8: And of course the implication there for VORTEX,

[2:34:22] Voice 8: which has gone through the Islands Trust

[2:34:24] Voice 8: development permitting process of VORTEX

[2:34:27] Voice 8: wants to join the system,

[2:34:29] Voice 8: wants to expand the system out to their location

[2:34:32] Voice 8: in Fulford Harbor.

[2:34:35] Voice 8: They're doing their own analysis of water that's required by the CRD.

[2:34:41] Voice 8: They have a copy of the Weston Lake study.

[2:34:44] Voice 8: They'll be providing their own analysis of whether they think the lake can sustain additional demand pressure.

[2:34:52] Voice 8: And just the final thing I noticed that was in the agenda package as part of the correspondence, I believe, is that we're meeting with the minister.

[2:35:03] Voice 8: I believe this Friday, regarding the speculation and vacancy tax.

[2:35:08] Voice 8: There was an announcement recently made by the minister, including another half dozen municipalities of southern Vancouver Island in the taxed areas.

[2:35:18] Voice 8: Salt Spring had made an explicit request to be included in the tax, but the minister declined to include us.

[2:35:26] Voice 8: and we're going to meet with her to understand the rationale there and and talk through what the

[2:35:32] Voice 8: obstacles might be thanks thank

[2:35:35] Trustee Patrick: you thank you gary and i should have mentioned we did receive the

[2:35:39] Trustee Patrick: western report this morning session and an additional motion that we passed was we requested

[2:35:46] Trustee Patrick: staff to coordinate a discussion uh with the province the crd islands trust in polis on the

[2:35:52] Trustee Patrick: topic of watershed governance and the potential application of water objectives under the water

[2:35:58] Trustee Patrick: sustainability act in the lake western watershed and we referenced a couple of polis's recent

[2:36:04] Trustee Patrick: reports on that topic so we thought that it was a good opportunity

[2:36:11] Trustee Patrick: okay so we have a number of correspondence that we received here that we need to look at are there

[2:36:21] Trustee Patrick: any um that call out particular actions we both have the same ones circled i see in our agenda

[2:36:30] Trustee Patrick: package um 13.4 yeah

[2:36:35] Trustee Grove (probable): 13.4 so can we respond

[2:36:37] Trustee Grove (probable): to that just

[2:36:38] Trustee Patrick: receive the first first three yes okay

[2:36:40] Trustee Patrick: so thirteen point one thirteen point two and thirteen point three will receive right and

[2:36:46] Trustee Patrick: And 13.4 is on page

[2:36:48] Trustee Grove (probable): 13.4.

[2:36:49] Trustee Grove (probable): And I certainly want to support that.

[2:36:52] Trustee Patrick: So this is a piece of correspondence

[2:36:54] Trustee Patrick: from the Piers Island Association asking Islands Trust.

[2:36:58] Trustee Patrick: Yes, Piers Island is in Salt Spring Island local trust area.

[2:37:01] Trustee Patrick: So in case you're wondering why we're talking

[2:37:02] Trustee Patrick: about another island.

[2:37:05] Trustee Patrick: So it was the Secret Islands, Prevost and several of them.

[2:37:09] Voice 4: Many others.

[2:37:12] Trustee Patrick: So they're just asking for a letter of support.

[2:37:16] Trustee Grove (probable): Yes.

[2:37:17] Trustee Grove (probable): and so um i guess

[2:37:20] Trustee Patrick: you just need a motion asking for a chair letter of support yes it's exactly

[2:37:24] Trustee Grove (probable): what we need so i would move that uh salt spring island local trust committee requests the chair

[2:37:30] Trustee Grove (probable): to write in support of um the peers island association who are requesting

[2:37:36] Trustee Grove (probable): i

[2:37:37] Trustee Patrick: think you can just refer to probably 13 point the correspondence the correspondence

[2:37:40] Trustee Grove (probable): and 13.1 thank you thank you i'll wait i'll

[2:37:45] Voice 4: let sarah read that back oh

[2:37:50] Voice 6: okay the local

[2:37:51] Voice 6: trust committee requests uh the ltc chair to write a letter of support uh to the piers island

[2:37:58] Voice 6: association regarding item 13.4 the letter dated august 5th concerning piers island association

[2:38:05] Voice 6: support requesting any

[2:38:07] Trustee Patrick: discussion all those in favor and that's carried are there any other

[2:38:17] Trustee Patrick: pieces that

[2:38:20] Voice 4: i i

[2:38:23] Trustee Patrick: know i was going to note carries here uh 13.8 we have the

[2:38:28] Trustee Patrick: uh uh information from crd on the uh officially giving us the master plan and i really wanted to

[2:38:37] Trustee Patrick: thank the crd for taking that master planning exercise on the uh the pool the rainbow road

[2:38:43] Trustee Patrick: recreation center i think it was a good exercise it was uh the public engagement was a good level

[2:38:49] Trustee Patrick: and interesting and the outcome of the master plan i think for those type of sites those are

[2:38:54] Trustee Patrick: it great to have is there any other action on any of the other apps uh

[2:39:01] Trustee Grove (probable): no we've got some a number

[2:39:03] Trustee Grove (probable): of letters regarding the rogers and chris seltzer from 13.11 a letter from julian clark um and i

[2:39:12] Trustee Grove (probable): mean i'm pleased that um mr clark and others are corresponding directly with isid right now who

[2:39:20] Trustee Grove (probable): who basically hold all the cards.

[2:39:22] Trustee Grove (probable): And I'm just wondering what action we should be taking

[2:39:27] Trustee Grove (probable): because I would like to support him in that regard.

[2:39:30] Trustee Patrick: There was the letter doing,

[2:39:33] Trustee Patrick: that was going to be an open letter

[2:39:35] Trustee Patrick: that was going to be created.

[2:39:36] Voice 16: Right.

[2:39:39] Trustee Patrick: I don't know what the status is of that.

[2:39:41] Voice 7: So the

[2:39:41] Voice 7: chair and trustee, it's still in progress.

[2:39:45] Voice 7: I'm not really sure why it is out.

[2:39:47] Voice 7: We forwarded it to the director

[2:39:51] Voice 7: and it's essentially waiting for him to review and submit it to the legal series in progress right now.

[2:39:58] Trustee Grove (probable): Which director has it been ported to?

[2:40:00] Voice 7: Stefan Sermak,

[2:40:02] Trustee Grove (probable): I mean the director.

[2:40:02] Voice 7: And

[2:40:03] Trustee Grove (probable): that is an open letter?

[2:40:05] Voice 7: Yeah, for the legal advisor to draft an open letter.

[2:40:12] Trustee Grove (probable): okay um well um we should that we should make that public um as soon as uh

[2:40:18] Trustee Grove (probable): we get the authority from

[2:40:21] Voice 7: victoria

[2:40:22] Trustee Grove (probable): to do so yeah

[2:40:23] Voice 7: we're just working on it right now okay so and

[2:40:25] Trustee Grove (probable): then what will we do with it i mean how do we how do we uh make sure that's available

[2:40:31] Trustee Grove (probable): to be forwarded to the individuals who are involved with the channel rich my understanding

[2:40:37] Voice 7: sending is it's an open letter so it will be published and through our communication uh

[2:40:44] Voice 7: staff on the website yeah

[2:40:47] Trustee Grove (probable): and i'd like to make sure that we bring that to mr clark's attention

[2:40:50] Trustee Grove (probable): for instance when that is done and we can expect that how soon do we know i

[2:40:55] Voice 7: really have no idea

[2:40:56] Voice 7: i it's yeah i cannot answer that i did follow up twice so just get in progress they're working on

[2:41:06] Voice 7: it

[2:41:06] Trustee Grove (probable): it's going to be more than a week or so i'd like to know because um

[2:41:10] Trustee Patrick: yeah

[2:41:12] Trustee Grove (probable): any have you any

[2:41:13] Trustee Grove (probable): idea no i

[2:41:14] Trustee Patrick: don't it's unfortunate chair look i'm here because he's been working on it

[2:41:17] Trustee Patrick: that's his

[2:41:20] Voice 7: letter i think the resolution speaks of going to um the executive committee i

[2:41:29] Trustee Patrick: don't recall

[2:41:30] Trustee Patrick: call

[2:41:31] Voice 7: mostly if I recall correctly relating to the funding to have the legal advisor I can't remember

[2:41:39] Voice 7: the wording that's uh so I think we should check with Peter welcome yes

[2:41:46] Voice 16: okay we provided

[2:41:47] Voice 7: information already

[2:41:48] Trustee Patrick: we're just waiting for response okay

[2:41:52] Trustee Grove (probable): okay

[2:41:53] Trustee Patrick: so then items 13.5 through

[2:41:57] Trustee Patrick: 13.12 will receive yes thank you okay all right so delegation oh sorry

[2:42:05] Voice 5: laura i i didn't quite

[2:42:07] Voice 5: understand what your staff member said in terms of who the letters had gone to we're not certain

[2:42:14] Trustee Patrick: we don't have that so in regards to the letters we we don't know and peter luckham isn't here

[2:42:21] Trustee Patrick: Peter Luckham knows the answer and is working with staff above Louise is the director of regional planning so we don't have the answer.

[2:42:35] Trustee Grove (probable): I mean I will undertake to follow up with our chair, and if he has something helpful to say, I will pass that on to Julian club.

[2:42:44] Trustee Grove (probable): Thank you.

[2:42:45] Trustee Patrick: we appreciate that yeah sorry thank you

[2:42:48] Trustee Grove (probable): okay

[2:42:49] Trustee Patrick: so now we have a delegation today 14.1 representatives

[2:42:53] Trustee Patrick: of the somerset townhomes on 107 atkins road concerning the new development within the town

[2:43:00] Trustee Patrick: house strata and who's going to be is that linda underwood yes yes if you can just probably stand

[2:43:06] Trustee Patrick: right there the microphone will pick you up behind there

[2:43:09] Voice 3: and

[2:43:10] Trustee Patrick: um i guess how much time today sorry

[2:43:15] Voice 2: so i understand that okay yes uh

[2:43:17] Trustee Patrick: so laura's over to you thank

[2:43:19] Voice 2: you chair patrick and trustee grove

[2:43:22] Voice 2: and staff i'd like to acknowledge um don james our vice president of our local uh strata council

[2:43:29] Voice 2: and my name is linda underwood and i'd also like to recognize the uh current owners of

[2:43:34] Voice 2: somerset and it's here today oh sorry

[2:43:38] Trustee Patrick: um yeah no the microphone just is it's picking up and

[2:43:41] Trustee Patrick: for the live streaming but we don't have a microphone for um uh anybody else yeah so if

[2:43:48] Trustee Patrick: you could try speaking as loud as you can the

[2:43:50] Voice 2: acoustics in here is thank you put my future voice

[2:43:52] Voice 2: on all

[2:43:53] Trustee Patrick: right all

[2:43:54] Voice 2: right so my name is linda underwood and i'm the parent president of the

[2:43:59] Voice 2: strata council um in representing the current owners here today our purpose is to ask the trust

[2:44:07] Voice 2: to require amendments to the development permit for Summerside Village, the new construction.

[2:44:14] Voice 2: To include first, adequate lighting for safety reasons.

[2:44:19] Voice 2: And second, details of an already constructed lock block wall and of the landscape greening around that wall.

[2:44:29] Voice 2: I'll talk about safe lighting first.

[2:44:31] Voice 2: first. When we inquired about lighting to the trust, we got a prompt response from the trust

[2:44:37] Voice 2: planning team assistant, Rob Pingel, indicating that a planner had reviewed our request and that

[2:44:44] Voice 2: the guidelines work to regulate proposed lighting rather than requiring it. But while we respect the

[2:44:53] Voice 2: planner's response, we are left wondering how safe lighting is missing from the development permit.

[2:45:01] Voice 2: Previous development plans at Summerside included lighting.

[2:45:05] Voice 2: There's approximately 32 lights beside the current 39 units at Summerside.

[2:45:10] Voice 2: We've been having ongoing conversations with the developer.

[2:45:14] Voice 2: Most recently, August 29th, the developer indicated that they were not willing to install the infrastructure or the lighting

[2:45:23] Voice 2: or interested in making any amendments to the development plan.

[2:45:27] Voice 2: and they invited the strata to hire them to develop the plans and to execute the tasks at

[2:45:33] Voice 2: the stratus cost in effect passing the cost of installing lighting to new and current owners

[2:45:42] Voice 2: we feel certain that the new owners will demand lighting similar to that which already exists at

[2:45:49] Voice 2: somerset um and that will be at the expense of all the owners interestingly i just renewed my

[2:45:57] Voice 2: my townhouse homeowner insurance and I was asked a question about exterior roadway lighting

[2:46:04] Voice 2: in the complex that I lived in and I was able to say yes but I was curious about the question

[2:46:11] Voice 2: and the reply I got was exterior lighting can help prevent vandalism and break-ins and help

[2:46:18] Voice 2: prevent trips and falls it's not a condition of the policy at this time however it's a recommendation

[2:46:25] Voice 2: and safety. We asked the trust to reconsider lighting for the new units as a requirement

[2:46:32] Voice 2: in the development plan based on safety. Our second communication with the trust was related

[2:46:41] Voice 2: to a lock block wall. It's seen as a thin wavy line in the development permit, but that thin

[2:46:48] Voice 2: wavy line turned into a wall that rises up to 12 and a half feet and sits very close to the

[2:46:57] Voice 2: current units there is an insert in the development permit that says proposed lock block concrete unit

[2:47:05] Voice 2: wall see sheet lp04 for details but lpo4 just provides general landscaping information and

[2:47:15] Voice 2: gives no details about the lock block wall this lack of detail extends to the landscaping around

[2:47:22] Voice 2: the wall the developer has assured us that the wall will be greened and that landscaping will

[2:47:28] Voice 2: happen later but again there's no details in the permit and so no requirement to do it it's my

[2:47:38] Voice 2: understanding that the details of the wall construction were not seen earlier by trustees

[2:47:45] Voice 2: and what left wondering did staff see details did the decision makers have that information

[2:47:54] Voice 2: in approving the development permit.

[2:47:56] Voice 2: The wall's already constructed,

[2:47:58] Voice 2: and according to a current owner,

[2:48:01] Voice 2: has already elicited a shocked response

[2:48:04] Voice 2: from one trust planner.

[2:48:06] Voice 2: It's hoped that owners can count on the trust

[2:48:10] Voice 2: to require details of the wall construction

[2:48:13] Voice 2: and exactly how it will be greened

[2:48:16] Voice 2: so that owners aren't left wondering.

[2:48:20] Voice 2: So how can we proceed?

[2:48:22] Voice 2: Lighting, because of safety,

[2:48:24] Voice 2: needs to be a part of the development permit and details of the lock block wall construction and

[2:48:30] Voice 2: landscape greening need similarly to be articulated in the permit and so we ask the trust to take

[2:48:38] Voice 2: action to ensure that these are in place thank you thank you very much very good

[2:48:43] Trustee Grove (probable): you've got 12

[2:48:44] Trustee Grove (probable): seconds left that's impressive do

[2:48:47] Trustee Patrick: you have any questions uh for the delegate no

[2:48:52] Trustee Grove (probable): i'm not entirely

[2:48:53] Trustee Grove (probable): This is territory I haven't crossed in my 11 years as a trustee and I'm not sure just what role trust can play in this regard, if indeed the developer isn't following the development permit requirements.

[2:49:10] Trustee Grove (probable): So, I'm wondering from start what can be done.

[2:49:16] Voice 7: So I will need to look into it. I am not familiar with this development permit.

[2:49:22] Voice 7: that like yeah so

[2:49:23] Trustee Grove (probable): then we should look into it and uh what report back or what would we do do we need

[2:49:29] Trustee Patrick: to we should have a resolution asking staff to um i

[2:49:34] Voice 7: don't know if you need a resolution because we

[2:49:36] Voice 7: have already been working with uh um the speaker and we'll have to go back to the office please do

[2:49:45] Trustee Grove (probable): thank you but

[2:49:46] Trustee Patrick: a resolution wouldn't hurt perhaps yeah for sure yeah i think we should make a

[2:49:52] Trustee Patrick: resolution um

[2:49:54] Trustee Grove (probable): i really i moved that social and local trust committee asked staff to um

[2:50:01] Trustee Grove (probable): look into issues raised at the meeting of september the 6th with regard to

[2:50:09] Trustee Grove (probable): sunnyside

[2:50:09] Voice 2: summer side it's summer side village development with

[2:50:13] Trustee Grove (probable): regard to summer side village

[2:50:14] Trustee Grove (probable): development relating to lighting and a locked block wall i'll

[2:50:22] Voice 4: let us read that back yeah okay

[2:50:30] Voice 6: uh the ltc request act to look into issues raised at the september 6 2022 meeting regarding a

[2:50:39] Voice 6: summer side uh townhouse strata development specifically uh looking into lighting and a lock

[2:50:49] Voice 6: lock wall correct

[2:50:51] Trustee Grove (probable): i'll

[2:50:52] Voice 6: second that any discussion

[2:50:57] Trustee Patrick: yes i think you you're you've got

[2:51:00] Voice 2: your delegate we've got the details yeah i

[2:51:01] Trustee Patrick: think this is meant

[2:51:02] Trustee Patrick: just to be a parking place so that we

[2:51:03] Trustee Patrick: don't lose track um so any further discussion i'll call the

[2:51:08] Trustee Patrick: both all those in favor and that carries thank you so much for coming today thank you appreciate it

[2:51:14] Trustee Patrick: by the way i

[2:51:14] Trustee Grove (probable): drove around there yesterday i couldn't find this block block wall

[2:51:22] Voice 2: well in part unless you have access to the backyards of some of the current units it's

[2:51:30] Voice 2: difficult to appreciate the impact of it and it also is behind the fence the construction fence

[2:51:36] Voice 2: which of course there's no entry to that you can see part of it from the bottom but only a part of

[2:51:42] Trustee Patrick: it you can walk straight by i parked at country grocer and then walked around the little trail

[2:51:47] Trustee Patrick: there and behind the fence so you can

[2:51:49] Voice 2: get close to it and

[2:51:51] Trustee Patrick: mine and mine

[2:51:53] Trustee Grove (probable): and thank

[2:51:54] Voice 2: you for doing

[2:51:55] Voice 2: that all right thank you

[2:51:57] Trustee Patrick: thank you okay so now this is your opportunity to speak i i know that

[2:52:04] Trustee Patrick: that you will be respectful.

[2:52:06] Trustee Patrick: Please talk about issues, not people.

[2:52:09] Trustee Patrick: Please direct your comments

[2:52:11] Trustee Patrick: to those of us selected up front here.

[2:52:16] Trustee Patrick: And I'm not going to run a timer,

[2:52:20] Trustee Patrick: but if you are circling or going on,

[2:52:24] Trustee Patrick: I'll ask you to wrap up your comments, please.

[2:52:27] Trustee Patrick: So with that, if I can see, that'd be great.

[2:52:33] Trustee Patrick: So we're gonna just take show of hands

[2:52:34] Trustee Patrick: and then you can come up here and if you could just stand behind this uh this we can hear you

[2:52:38] Trustee Patrick: better so genuinely hello hi

[2:52:41] Voice 1: trustees um i just want to point out that um summerside haven't kept

[2:52:47] Voice 1: to their agreements at all and the common denominator between all the developers in all

[2:52:52] Voice 1: the phases is actually the strata when it was approved originally it was supposed to be only

[2:53:00] Voice 1: 25% lot coverage and also all mature trees that were cut down were supposed to be replaced and

[2:53:08] Voice 1: even in seven years ago a huge amount of mature trees were removed from that lot and also it is

[2:53:17] Voice 1: a source of light pollution already for the neighbors which is my grandparents property

[2:53:23] Voice 1: property and the favors that were done to enable a lot of that development are not recognized the

[2:53:32] Voice 1: um my grandfather went through a lot of effort from a low income that he had to put in a lot

[2:53:38] Voice 1: of applications before the islands trust while he was alive to even try to develop a few homes

[2:53:44] Voice 1: one would enable his sister my great aunt to live on the property uh he was not given very easy time

[2:53:52] Voice 1: i have all the paperwork and eventually when my mom and aunt agreed to a sewer right of way in

[2:53:59] Voice 1: one for one atkins they were told that they would allow one for one atkins to also be on the sewer

[2:54:06] Voice 1: meanwhile maps are there excluding one for one atkins from the sewer area meanwhile somerset

[2:54:12] Voice 1: was able to expand to double its size by using the sewer that runs through my family property

[2:54:19] Voice 1: property and then when you look at the subject of light pollution and how it affects us who are a

[2:54:25] Voice 1: low-lying property and the fact that this type of entity or this possibility of being having the

[2:54:34] Voice 1: development of the last green spot on Summerside was always hanging in the air because everybody

[2:54:39] Voice 1: on that strata knew that that was for sale and for a dense level of development and yet did nothing

[2:54:45] Voice 1: to organize themselves to potentially purchase it themselves or become politically involved at a time

[2:54:51] Voice 1: and is now concerned because of lighting and a wall when the neighbors have had to hear rock

[2:54:57] Voice 1: crushing going on for over a year daily rock crushing that are completely outside of regular

[2:55:02] Voice 1: construction hours and when a person calls for bylaw we find that there are no lighting

[2:55:09] Voice 1: requirements for night skies, which is actually extremely important. Like I believe on the

[2:55:15] Voice 1: Sunshine Coast, they've done that because there are harms to even birds and other wildlife for

[2:55:21] Voice 1: brightness at night. And the area is brilliantly lit up. There's lights at Meadowbrook, there's

[2:55:26] Voice 1: lights at Country Grocer. There's a lot of transgressions in that area, including at the

[2:55:32] Voice 1: end of valhalla where a country grocer has taken the rock provided by the land development at 107

[2:55:40] Voice 1: atkins and has built an enormous wall that they're using to extend a commercial parking lot

[2:55:44] Voice 1: into a residential area which i have put before bylaw bylaw doesn't really want to touch it so

[2:55:50] Voice 1: i'm not sure why a person now at this date on september 6 2022 why the strata shows up before

[2:55:59] Voice 1: the island's trust to talk about safety issues with lighting and this wall when other people

[2:56:05] Voice 1: living in this area have put up with horrible things from summer side strata and other neighbors

[2:56:10] Voice 1: uh for 20 years thank you thank you all right i think

[2:56:17] Trustee Patrick: mike next thank

[2:56:24] Voice 15: you for the opportunity to

[2:56:25] Voice 15: speak and um we all have different opinions on things and i just want to acknowledge the hard

[2:56:30] Voice 15: work of staff and trustees and chair and the director doing your best um i was pretty skeptical

[2:56:37] Voice 15: of the political process when i started attending these meetings and i get a strong feeling that you

[2:56:42] Voice 15: really care and you're you know you're doing the best you can and it's our job also to help

[2:56:47] Voice 15: support your work because you can't cover all the ground um i want to speak specifically about this

[2:56:52] Voice 15: issue of sales concerns uh i obviously don't speak for sale um i'm a local resident um i work in the

[2:56:59] Voice 15: construction industry i'm on the housing task force i have worked with first nations for over

[2:57:05] Voice 15: 10 years including two years volunteering and stay out and the point that i wish to raise is

[2:57:12] Voice 15: not about the substance of the bylaw concerned but about procedural issues that affect this bylaw and

[2:57:18] Voice 15: other bylaws and other consultations so i really welcome and celebrate the um the desire to learn

[2:57:26] Voice 15: and to find better ways to consult with First Nations.

[2:57:31] Voice 15: I want to bring the point that it's, you know, the band council system,

[2:57:37] Voice 15: this is an authority that was created under the Indian Act in Canada

[2:57:41] Voice 15: as part of the same system that created the reserves,

[2:57:44] Voice 15: created the residential schools and other policies that are foreign

[2:57:47] Voice 15: to First Nations and that largely serve non-Indigenous interests.

[2:57:52] Voice 15: We're now in a system where we, this is part of the reality we deal with,

[2:57:57] Voice 15: However, there are traditional governance structures

[2:57:59] Voice 15: in every community that I've worked with that coexist.

[2:58:02] Voice 15: There are people who are disenfranchised by both systems.

[2:58:05] Voice 15: There are people living off-reserve for whatever reason.

[2:58:08] Voice 15: So the process of consulting First Nations and saying,

[2:58:12] Voice 15: we've talked to say on First Nations,

[2:58:15] Voice 15: I believe these words need to be used very carefully.

[2:58:18] Voice 15: From my understanding,

[2:58:23] Voice 15: only the main councils have been consulted.

[2:58:25] Voice 15: and i can say that you know so there's there's a bit of an issue with an instance created by

[2:58:33] Voice 15: non-native people funded by non-native people when the other instances don't have that

[2:58:38] Voice 9: benefit and

[2:58:39] Voice 15: i've laid out an explanation which i'll submit to sarah here of the suggestion of ways of going

[2:58:45] Voice 15: forward but um i think it's necessary to proceed with extreme caution when saying you know the

[2:58:52] Voice 15: natives don't want this or the natives want this um so i have a basically a series of requests

[2:58:57] Voice 15: in here to be very transparent with the public you know what are all the like i think it would

[2:59:03] Voice 15: be in the benefit of salt springers to know what are all the first nations with rights to salt

[2:59:07] Voice 15: space what are the different um organizations and individuals within those communities that

[2:59:13] Voice 15: are concerned about what we're talking about housing water whatever other issues how can

[2:59:18] Voice 15: we work together in in harmony um you know not an adversarial thing i don't think anyone's gonna

[2:59:25] Voice 15: to say you didn't do your best but i think more transparency going forward would be very important

[2:59:31] Voice 15: um thank you very much for your time thank

[2:59:34] Trustee Patrick: you mike and thank you for your

[2:59:35] Trustee Patrick: suggestions

[2:59:38] Trustee Patrick: who's next somebody in the background yes please before if you could state your name yeah thank you

[2:59:48] Voice 10: Thank you for letting me speak with you today, I'm Scott McLean, a resident of Channel Ridge, which is to be affected by the possible Rogers Tower.

[3:00:00] Voice 10: i'm also part of speaking for team crock who has been advocating in this issue for well over a year

[3:00:07] Voice 10: julian clark our spokesperson could not be here today due to a family matter

[3:00:12] Voice 10: as you know your decision on march 22nd to rescind earlier approval of the tower location was not

[3:00:20] Voice 10: accepted by the federal governing body in this matter i said which so advised you in may in

[3:00:28] Voice 10: In ICED's brief letter, they indicated

[3:00:30] Voice 10: that the reasons given to them were insufficient.

[3:00:33] Voice 10: In this regard, we note that Chair Luckham's

[3:00:36] Voice 10: April 6th advisory letter to ICED

[3:00:40] Voice 10: only refers to discussion

[3:00:41] Voice 10: and does not spell out what was discussed.

[3:00:45] Voice 10: Since then, we have reached out several times to ask,

[3:00:49] Voice 10: what have ICED subsequently be told?

[3:00:53] Voice 10: Specifically, have you communicated

[3:00:55] Voice 10: the numerous valid reasons

[3:00:57] Voice 10: for why you rescinded the concurrence

[3:00:59] Voice 10: at your March 22nd meeting.

[3:01:02] Voice 10: I think it's also fair to say

[3:01:05] Voice 10: that as our representatives in this process,

[3:01:07] Voice 10: we expect the LTC to do the right thing

[3:01:10] Voice 10: and clearly articulate, as I said,

[3:01:12] Voice 10: the numerous valid reasons for the March rescindment.

[3:01:15] Voice 10: We also expect the LTC to communicate

[3:01:18] Voice 10: what they have done with their constituents.

[3:01:22] Voice 10: We're obviously disappointed

[3:01:23] Voice 10: that hasn't appeared to have happened yet,

[3:01:25] Voice 10: especially as we provided you with a draft letter to ICED at your July 12th regular meeting.

[3:01:32] Voice 10: As a result, we have now communicated directly with Ms. Susan Hart,

[3:01:37] Voice 10: Executive Director General, Spectrum Management Operations Branch of ICED,

[3:01:42] Voice 10: which you have all been copied with.

[3:01:44] Voice 10: However, it would be much more effective had this communication come from the LTC.

[3:01:50] Voice 10: It's important to note that Susan Hart of ICED had earlier advised Rogers, sorry, earlier advised that Rogers had received its approval from ICED based on the default protocol of ICED.

[3:02:09] Voice 10: This, as you may know, was materially incorrect.

[3:02:13] Voice 10: Rogers actually stated in their application that such was based on the Island Trust's model protocol.

[3:02:20] Voice 10: As had been recommended by you, shouldn't you correct ISED's misunderstanding of this critical procedural point while explaining your reasons for the rescindment?

[3:02:36] Voice 10: Lastly, can you please advise, oh, I'm sorry, you've already answered the question about the open letter.

[3:02:41] Voice 10: I was going to ask, what's the status of the open letter?

[3:02:45] Voice 10: Anyway, I think your constituents deserve good communications in these matters, and we're looking for that.

[3:02:52] Voice 10: Good.

[3:02:52] Voice 10: Thank you.

[3:02:53] Voice 10: thank you

[3:02:53] Voice 4: very much anyone

[3:02:57] Trustee Patrick: else that would like to address us today

[3:03:02] Trustee Patrick: no all right well i thank you we always want to hear from um from people so please

[3:03:13] Trustee Patrick: write to us uh you can always write to uh ssi info at islandstrust.bc.ca staff share it with

[3:03:23] Trustee Patrick: us you can email us and we send it with to staff so that it is uh on the record uh but we do want

[3:03:30] Trustee Patrick: to hear from you thank you for for being here today with that we're going to carry on our agenda

[3:03:35] Trustee Patrick: and i think gary's going to sneak off okay thank you for coming so wait a moment for people sneaking

[3:03:44] Voice 4: seeking out thank

[3:03:46] Voice 3: you very much thank you

[3:03:48] Voice 4: for coming thank you people leave for a moment

[3:04:07] Voice 4: we can carry

[3:04:32] Trustee Patrick: on okay we're going to move on to uh applications and referrals item 16.1 in the

[3:04:38] Trustee Patrick: agenda is a rezoning application for chapman uh three three six one sunset drive it's page 376

[3:04:46] Trustee Patrick: of the agenda package and we have a staff report and I Louisa are you Louisa Garber are you giving

[3:04:53] Trustee Patrick: the report

[3:04:54] Voice 7: I could give you a summary of the report that was by Flanner Gordon I just give you

[3:05:02] Voice 7: the highlight basically it's a zoning request that will require an amendment to the OCP

[3:05:10] Voice 7: which is the South Spring Island official community plan to amend from Channel Ridge

[3:05:15] Voice 7: residential to residential neighborhoods in order to allow the amendment of the language spiral to

[3:05:22] Voice 7: result from r6a to residential 6a to residency 8. and the report summarized basically points

[3:05:33] Voice 7: out that based on the complexity of the density allocation through the language covenant as well

[3:05:39] Voice 7: well as the previous iterations of the OCP and the land use by-law, the Channel Village,

[3:05:46] Voice 7: sorry, Channel Ridge Village and surrounding residential areas have long been intended

[3:05:52] Voice 7: as a comprehensive planning area.

[3:05:55] Voice 7: Peacemill rezoning will undermine the longstanding approach to the development of the area.

[3:06:01] Voice 7: So with that being said, in the background, the staff report also pointed out the issue

[3:06:09] Voice 7: on the history on the property that there has been an accommodation guest commercial guest

[3:06:17] Voice 7: accommodation on the property some of the structures have built and the accommodation

[3:06:24] Voice 7: services have not yet begun but the channel reach residential destination does not allow

[3:06:31] Voice 7: for temporary use permit at tup and amending the land use destination is required

[3:06:39] Voice 7: and the report also pointed out that the uh project the subject property is within the north

[3:06:50] Voice 7: south spring water works district surface area and connection is not possible due to the ongoing

[3:06:58] Voice 7: moratorium uh the report did acknowledge the hydro hydro geologist reports submitted by the african

[3:07:10] Voice 7: And the application had gone through an initial review of the Island Trust policy and the OCP and the policies identified in the staff report.

[3:07:26] Voice 7: The report pointed out that although the subject property is left off the subdivision block mapping Schedule C of the land use bylaw,

[3:07:37] Voice 7: law, density is still governed by the restrictive covenant and the land use by law, and removing

[3:07:45] Voice 7: the subject property from R6A zoning would not remove the restrictive covenant requirements.

[3:07:53] Voice 7: So therefore, any removal of the density from R6A by rezoning the property should be reflected

[3:08:00] Voice 7: by amending the land use by law accordingly by reducing the 260 units permitted accordingly.

[3:08:08] Voice 7: and the report also stated that given the limited number of densities available in the channel rich

[3:08:15] Voice 7: area the restricted covenant with multiple signatories is salt spring water works district

[3:08:24] Voice 7: moratorium and the various ownership of development lands in the channel rich area

[3:08:30] Voice 7: staff do not recommend proceeding with the rezoning on a property by property basis

[3:08:36] Voice 7: but that any rezoning should be done comprehensively.

[3:08:43] Voice 7: And the report also highlighted the issue

[3:08:49] Voice 7: on the proposed rezoning to R8 will allow each lot

[3:08:53] Voice 7: that met a minimum of 1.2 hectares

[3:08:56] Voice 7: to be permitted a seasonal cottage.

[3:09:00] Voice 7: Further drawing down the number of dwelling units

[3:09:02] Voice 7: permitted by bylaw and covenant

[3:09:05] Voice 7: And a very rough calculation of the available land area in the residential portion of the subject property shows a subdivision potential of approximately 20 lots.

[3:09:18] Voice 7: And if the maximum number of lots is achieved, locating a seasonal cottage would not be possible on any of the lots.

[3:09:27] Voice 7: And again, the report goes on to talk about adequate supply of potable water for a proposed use is typically required.

[3:09:37] Voice 7: to demonstrate for any rezoning requests. However, the proposed application makes it

[3:09:45] Voice 7: difficult to assess what level of water supply should be demonstrated as no development is

[3:09:52] Voice 7: actually proposed through this application, but rather the potential of future development is

[3:09:58] Voice 7: soil and also that there will be likely a need for a significant infrastructure installed to

[3:10:10] Voice 7: convey water to any new movement that wants and staff noticed that the wells are located on the

[3:10:21] Voice 7: aquaculture zone portion of the property and the impact of the water availability for agriculture

[3:10:29] Voice 7: cultured use if the wells are pumped at a significant rate, and the requirement to create

[3:10:35] Voice 7: a water utility per the Water Utility Act will depend on the number of dwellings served

[3:10:41] Voice 7: if the intent is to use a single well to serve multiple properties, and the hydrogeologist

[3:10:49] Voice 7: just report isolated issues of quantity issues in the summer months and with that being said

[3:11:00] Voice 7: the report points out that if and should LTC move forward with the rezoning request

[3:11:10] Voice 7: more detail would be required to look at against the island trust policy and the

[3:11:16] Voice 7: as well as consultation with First Nations and the recommendation is drafted in the first

[3:11:24] Voice 7: page of the staff report with the resolution.

[3:11:30] Trustee Patrick: Thank you Louisa. The applicant Bryce Chapman's

[3:11:33] Trustee Patrick: here. Hi

[3:11:35] Voice 14: I'm Tyler I'm actually Bryce's son. I was corresponding with Geordie through a process

[3:11:40] Voice 14: so maybe I'll just address you guys first if you don't mind.

[3:11:42] Trustee Patrick: No that's fine.

[3:11:43] Voice 14: So it's obviously a

[3:11:44] Voice 14: complex situation with your relationship with channel ridgelands there but to try and simplify

[3:11:49] Voice 14: it so half the farm property that my family owns is zoned r6a the other half is zoned

[3:11:56] Voice 14: agricultural so a1 um so interesting that we have a farm and a lot of the farmland is actually in

[3:12:03] Voice 14: that r6a zone um and the other half is as i said actually zoned agricultural so there's a bit of a

[3:12:09] Voice 14: an issue just in the zoning to begin with whether or not we were we were searching for for a

[3:12:14] Voice 14: variants that are rezoned obviously at one point in the past the property was connected to the

[3:12:18] Voice 14: channel ridge development lands which is why it was lumped into that r6a zoning we would imagine

[3:12:24] Voice 14: but it was separated off many years ago 23 years ago and it was never intended to be part of the

[3:12:30] Voice 14: actual development that's always been historically a farm so basically what we're questioning for is

[3:12:36] Voice 14: that the strip that is zoned r6a that would be the top strip of the land be rezoned to r8 which

[3:12:41] Voice 14: is the same as all of our immediate neighbors they're all r8 and that would allow us not only to

[3:12:47] Voice 14: to legally do agricultural use on that section of the land but it would also allow for the

[3:12:54] Voice 14: property itself to be potentially subdivided without need for community water and as you

[3:12:59] Voice 14: guys know there's a

[3:12:59] Voice 14: notorium on community water but on our farm we're lucky that we have a lot

[3:13:04] Voice 14: of water in fact one of the wells was previously if you look at the the well documents potentially

[3:13:10] Voice 14: potentially being used for the entire village of the students so there's quite a bit of water

[3:13:14] Voice 14: um there's natural Springs that to us is something that could be used if we were in our age zone

[3:13:20] Voice 14: um long-term goal for us was to be to bring that entire farm property back into agricultural

[3:13:26] Voice 14: production uh my dad is getting older that's not something he's interested in doing I don't

[3:13:31] Voice 14: live on Salt Spring um so we're looking at ways that we can have people come in uh you know lease

[3:13:37] Voice 14: the land for us for a very nominal fee but also have the ability to have a dwelling near the

[3:13:41] Voice 14: property uh so that they could continue on the actual agriculture on that land um i understand

[3:13:47] Voice 14: that there's some complexities involved in the restricted covenant aspect speaking with geordie

[3:13:52] Voice 14: his comment was that because of that restricted covenant any subdivision that would happen down

[3:13:58] Voice 14: the road would have to potentially draw down on those dwellings our perspective on that is that

[3:14:04] Voice 14: that if there is a set number of dwellings,

[3:14:06] Voice 14: then we feel we should be just as entitled to them

[3:14:08] Voice 14: as the other owners of Channel Ridge

[3:14:10] Voice 14: or anyone else that owned R6A,

[3:14:12] Voice 14: if that is the way that that's gonna work.

[3:14:15] Voice 14: So to put it simply,

[3:14:17] Voice 14: we're just looking to change from the R6A to R8

[3:14:19] Voice 14: so that it's more applicable to the actual use of property,

[3:14:22] Voice 14: which is agricultural.

[3:14:23] Voice 14: And so that we, down the road,

[3:14:25] Voice 14: have the potential to bring an application forward

[3:14:27] Voice 14: to you guys for potential subdivision

[3:14:30] Voice 14: based on ample potable water,

[3:14:32] Voice 14: as opposed to the need to be connected to your community. Sorry, one other point that I'll add

[3:14:39] Voice 14: regarding the temporary accommodation, that business is no longer functioning and it will

[3:14:43] Voice 14: no longer function in the future based on their inability to get through.

[3:14:46] Trustee Grove (probable): Quick question for me.

[3:14:49] Trustee Grove (probable): R6A allows agricultural activities. Okay. No, that's a question. Oh no, I believe it doesn't.

[3:14:57] Trustee Grove (probable): no

[3:14:57] Voice 14: it's not in the

[3:14:58] Voice 14: zoning all

[3:15:00] Voice 9: right all right allows agricultural but not intensive agriculture

[3:15:05] Voice 9: i

[3:15:06] Voice 14: believe that was a comment in the staff report that um please

[3:15:10] Trustee Grove (probable): can you confirm that please i'm

[3:15:18] Trustee Grove (probable): just surprised that it doesn't allow agricultural activities i thought agricultural activities are

[3:15:23] Trustee Grove (probable): basically allowed everywhere there

[3:15:27] Voice 4: are some restrictions maybe she looks that up all right

[3:15:46] Voice 3: um yeah i

[3:15:52] Voice 9: mean what tyler basically said is true um you guys know i understand the channel ridge

[3:15:57] Voice 9: situation very clearly as my investment group at one time owned the project so um there was never

[3:16:04] Voice 9: an intention ever for my farm or that land to ever be developed except to be left as a farm back in

[3:16:11] Voice 9: 85 i assume there was an agricultural strip taken off for whatever purpose at that time would split

[3:16:17] Voice 9: what was the moat's farm in half the usable agricultural part is split in half um you guys

[3:16:24] Voice 9: know my request it's very simple i would like to move from r6 to r8 which eliminates all of the

[3:16:30] Voice 9: opposition in a and b because we're no longer part of channel ridge then because r6 was a

[3:16:35] Voice 9: designation set up just for channel ridge so we can take care of all of those issues instantly

[3:16:41] Voice 9: by moving out of r6 r8 then allows us to have ample potable water to do a potential subdivision

[3:16:48] Voice 9: my goal is to try and develop some lots for agricultural workers

[3:16:53] Voice 9: i've spent four years going to the agricultural meetings to try and find workers for the farm

[3:16:59] Voice 9: and I'm running up against the same problem

[3:17:01] Voice 9: everybody else runs up against.

[3:17:02] Voice 9: Where will I live?

[3:17:04] Voice 9: So I've got to produce some properties

[3:17:06] Voice 9: for the people to live on

[3:17:07] Voice 9: that are going to lease the land

[3:17:08] Voice 9: and my intent is to lease the land

[3:17:10] Voice 9: at a very nominal price

[3:17:11] Voice 9: to help people get started.

[3:17:13] Voice 9: I want to see that land back

[3:17:14] Voice 9: producing agricultural products for this island.

[3:17:17] Voice 9: It's one of the best agricultural pieces

[3:17:19] Voice 9: on this island.

[3:17:21] Voice 9: Obviously the moat's chosen

[3:17:22] Voice 9: for that specific reason.

[3:17:25] Voice 9: So as far as ample water,

[3:17:26] Voice 9: my one well,

[3:17:28] Voice 9: if it was pumped at 60 gallons a minute which would not stress the well in any way shape or form

[3:17:32] Voice 9: in four months produces over eight or over 10 million gallons of water

[3:17:37] Voice 9: um there is absolutely any points um c and d no restriction on our ability to produce water

[3:17:44] Voice 9: peter you're aware that i've offered my water to help solve the channel ridge dilemma for four

[3:17:49] Voice 9: full years now if that ever happens my well still sitting there to help with that regard too

[3:17:54] Voice 9: so really all i want to do is just simply go from r8 to r6 today and then come back there are six

[3:18:01] Voice 9: sorry yeah and come back uh in a future date when i found some interested agricultural serious

[3:18:08] Voice 9: agricultural entrepreneurs and talk to the trust again about producing some lots that's our plan

[3:18:15] Voice 9: so if

[3:18:16] Trustee Grove (probable): i mean that's a question are you saying you're not part of the channel rich

[3:18:19] Trustee Grove (probable): bridge area well

[3:18:23] Voice 9: we have some of the r6a zoning our top the whole strip the top half of our farm

[3:18:28] Voice 9: which is long and narrow is r6a and again um there is a theory by geordie you know geordie's young

[3:18:35] Voice 9: and new that if we were subdivided out somehow the number of densities left for channel ridge

[3:18:44] Voice 9: um would have to follow or have to be deducted which isn't accurate in any way shape or form

[3:18:50] Voice 9: i am making no claim against channel ridge densities they're their densities

[3:18:55] Voice 9: the only densities left are in an active development zone there's 159 properties

[3:19:00] Voice 9: that have been subdivided off of that project over the years since 1985.

[3:19:04] Voice 9: they have no sway over channel ridge and channel ridge has no sway over their land

[3:19:10] Voice 9: um none of those other properties can claim more densities neither can i um and if that's not the

[3:19:18] Voice 9: case because you can't have it both ways then if i own r6 land i have a right to the 283 densities

[3:19:26] Voice 9: they're still available at any time but i don't believe i have a right to it i believe that it was

[3:19:31] Voice 9: intentioned to be in a development area and it's very clear that anybody i mean i'm pretty sure

[3:19:36] Voice 9: on he would have a lot to say about me claiming trying to claim some lots off their development

[3:19:41] Voice 9: zone which i don't want so

[3:19:44] Trustee Grove (probable): say that again yeah

[3:19:45] Voice 9: basically r68 um if my land gets taken out then

[3:19:51] Voice 9: you have to reduce the number of densities for channel reach no not accurate at all but sorry

[3:19:57] Trustee Grove (probable): in

[3:19:57] Voice 14: speaking with geordie that was his opinion on the matter that the only way that a subdivision

[3:20:04] Voice 14: would be possible would be based on the idea that we'd have to draw down the number of densities

[3:20:08] Voice 14: that are left under that restrictive covenant so that would somehow in you know i think that

[3:20:15] Voice 14: that creates a situation where maybe there'd be trepidation to continue because obviously there

[3:20:19] Voice 14: is a lawsuit at large and there was some concern that will you know we start messing around with

[3:20:24] Voice 14: this what are the implications of that going to be yeah but our perspective is that if you know

[3:20:29] Voice 14: if we're not even zoned r6a anymore you know you guys can kind of relax and relax on that end um

[3:20:36] Voice 14: yeah i think it's something that needs to be considered um you know in the context of where

[3:20:42] Voice 14: our property is you know what's surrounding us our actual proximity difference from channel

[3:20:47] Voice 14: ridge is the fact that you know we're not up in the village this is a property down you know quite

[3:20:52] Trustee Grove (probable): a ways away but i suspect you're correct there are concerns along those lines and i don't know

[3:20:57] Trustee Grove (probable): are asking me how to solve solve them well

[3:21:00] Voice 9: the solution i mean the solution did come from stefan

[3:21:03] Voice 9: to be quite honest years ago we moved from r6 r8 we're no longer part of the challenge zone

[3:21:09] Voice 9: it's done then shut right there legally speaking yeah

[3:21:14] Trustee Grove (probable): but they not may not be prepared to lie down

[3:21:16] Trustee Grove (probable): and you

[3:21:17] Voice 9: know see if if you move me to r8 then i have no impact on them and they have no impact

[3:21:22] Voice 9: on me anymore in any way shape or form and so that gives them relief they would be very happy

[3:21:28] Voice 9: the alternative that is is to basically state that i have control over channel ridge lands

[3:21:34] Voice 9: because i'm part of it and they have control over my lands because they're part of it

[3:21:38] Voice 9: which is not accurate there there is no way a multi-billion dollar corporation is going to say

[3:21:44] Voice 9: well bryce just demanded his 27 densities on my strip of r6 land they would go to court on that

[3:21:51] Voice 9: in a heartbeat and that's not what i want it's never what i want you guys know that i've been

[3:21:56] Voice 9: working on this for a while all i want to do is see this farmland get back into production

[3:22:00] Voice 9: and have some farm worker accommodation to go with it that's all and

[3:22:04] Trustee Grove (probable): i'm so sorry if i made

[3:22:05] Trustee Grove (probable): these if you look up the rc r6 right

[3:22:08] Voice 7: and the approach is not permitted what

[3:22:11] Trustee Grove (probable): is not it's not

[3:22:12] Voice 7: it's not agriculture is

[3:22:14] Voice 14: not committed correct that's

[3:22:15] Voice 14: pretty weird so we actually have farm

[3:22:17] Voice 14: buildings that have been there 50 plus years that are technically sitting on land that aren't that

[3:22:21] Voice 14: is in zone forever right

[3:22:22] Voice 9: you guys know i mean back in 85 this got lumped in with all the other stuff

[3:22:26] Voice 9: they were doing we just would like to be unlumped out of it in 86 back in 85 when all of this

[3:22:33] Voice 9: planning was done yeah

[3:22:34] Trustee Grove (probable): but when when were you out of the picture as part of the i'm

[3:22:37] Voice 9: i'm saying that

[3:22:38] Voice 9: the farmland got split and things were done back in 1985 when the 1985 when the linton family

[3:22:44] Voice 9: originally started deciding where they would put pods of development up in the channel

[3:22:48] Voice 9: where

[3:22:49] Trustee Grove (probable): where were you um as were you not part of the channel rich organization no

[3:22:53] Voice 9: not at that time

[3:22:54] Trustee Grove (probable): no when did you many years later when did you get out of that 2000

[3:22:57] Voice 14: was when we were there yeah so

[3:23:01] Voice 14: this property was separately titled before my family ever owned it um and you know as i said

[3:23:07] Voice 14: earlier just the zoning on it right now doesn't seem to make a lot of sense just based on what

[3:23:12] Voice 14: the property is and um we understand how it might have gotten lumped in because it was originally

[3:23:16] Voice 14: part of the downridge development lines um

[3:23:19] Voice 14: but you know it's 2022 and we're kind of hoping as

[3:23:21] Voice 14: as bryce said to be unwelmed out um so we can be have the same zoning as our neighbors and the

[3:23:26] Voice 14: potential to use the the water that's our land um to pursue development down the road in a separate

[3:23:31] Voice 14: and

[3:23:32] Voice 9: nothing more than that just simply let's not let's not let the staff have to worry about any

[3:23:37] Voice 9: iterations you can't reach because the second i become r8 that matters close from the door shut

[3:23:42] Voice 9: i understand that thanks um

[3:23:45] Trustee Patrick: no i i understand the simpleness um but i don't think it's quite as

[3:23:53] Trustee Patrick: simple uh because of the complexities as as you alluded to with uh you know the the channel ridge

[3:24:03] Trustee Patrick: the history why you know why why this was here i mean the covenants and the documents and and um

[3:24:10] Trustee Patrick: it while you may have a strong opinion on which way it goes we don't we're missing a party in the

[3:24:16] Trustee Patrick: room that's a signature of the covenant that may have a different opinion and um and the other issue

[3:24:25] Trustee Patrick: for me is that our relationship with north salt spring water district and that i'm i am extremely

[3:24:36] Trustee Patrick: I'm extremely keen on not seeing this separateness

[3:24:41] Trustee Patrick: of planning.

[3:24:43] Trustee Patrick: Water and land use are really linked, not separate.

[3:24:47] Trustee Patrick: And so I'm hopeful, I don't know,

[3:24:51] Trustee Patrick: maybe Gary can answer.

[3:24:52] Trustee Patrick: I know a motion was going to come before your board

[3:24:55] Trustee Patrick: on Friday about asking to talk more

[3:24:58] Trustee Patrick: with Salt Spring about just in general protocol.

[3:25:01] Trustee Patrick: I don't know if that happened, I didn't hear.

[3:25:04] Trustee Patrick: So I'm hoping that our relationships are going to improve

[3:25:10] Trustee Patrick: on the link and the land use.

[3:25:13] Voice 14: So-

[3:25:14] Voice 14: On the topic, if I may interject,

[3:25:16] Voice 14: on the topic of North Salisbury Water Works,

[3:25:17] Voice 14: we did approach them and ask if they would be willing

[3:25:19] Voice 14: to use our water, but essentially they told us

[3:25:23] Voice 14: that we need to get the well licensed to do that,

[3:25:26] Voice 14: which was something that I was willing to do.

[3:25:28] Voice 1: And I

[3:25:29] Voice 14: started the process when I approached

[3:25:31] Voice 14: the regulator through front counter,

[3:25:33] Voice 14: they basically said, well,

[3:25:34] Voice 14: if North Salisbury Water Works wants to be the end user of this well they should be the ones

[3:25:38] Voice 14: submitting the application for the license went back to North Salisbury Water Works and said that

[3:25:42] Voice 14: to them and they basically said that that wasn't something that they're interested in doing so we

[3:25:46] Voice 14: kind of have a bit of a round circle there you know if we didn't have to rezone to R8 you know

[3:25:50] Voice 14: we wouldn't right we would if we could connect community water great if we could provide water

[3:25:54] Voice 14: to North Salisbury Water Works so that they could connect us and more people to uh you know the

[3:25:59] Voice 14: the system great but that doesn't seem to be something that they're interested in doing so

[3:26:03] Voice 14: we're you know kind of looking for alternatives because the reality is that the water isn't there

[3:26:07] Voice 14: yeah right

[3:26:08] Voice 9: i'm a farmland that should get back into production yeah the only route that we see

[3:26:14] Voice 9: is to simply separate ourselves from the channel zone simple zone change and then we have ample

[3:26:21] Voice 9: water with which we can proceed with agricultural activities well

[3:26:28] Trustee Grove (probable): i'm not prepared to shut this down

[3:26:30] Trustee Grove (probable): is this the recommendation here but on the other hand i have no notion as to where we should go

[3:26:36] Trustee Grove (probable): from here and i think we need more advice as far as that and i'm at a loss as to where to go

[3:26:43] Trustee Grove (probable): i don't think we should be shutting this down um and uh so um do

[3:26:49] Trustee Patrick: we is advance well i mean because

[3:26:52] Trustee Patrick: like so there's a lot of other parties that sign the covenant can

[3:26:55] Voice 9: i make one simple suggestion

[3:26:56] Voice 9: sure could bonnie who owns the rest of the arson plan simply be asked do you have any challenges

[3:27:02] Voice 9: with this property being zoned out if they have no challenges then we've solved everything

[3:27:07] Trustee Grove (probable): but

[3:27:07] Voice 9: do you want to speak to honey well

[3:27:09] Voice 9: i think maybe it should be from you guys so i mean unless

[3:27:13] Voice 9: you trust me to have that conversation i'm happy to speak to them i already know i'm 100

[3:27:19] Voice 9: 100% possible. I know the answers will be, we don't even care what you're doing.

[3:27:25] Voice 7: I certainly don't have the history on this case. But Stefan Cermak was the partner on it. So he's

[3:27:33] Voice 7: very familiar with it. Maybe we can defer it to the next meeting. So he can give us more idea of

[3:27:40] Voice 7: what happened with the boundary shift. Because from the attachment and still show, show the

[3:27:46] Voice 7: history how this parcel is being considered as part of the comprehensive planning area so uh

[3:27:55] Voice 9: actually actually there's more evidence in the book here that shows it's not

[3:27:59] Voice 7: so i think it will

[3:28:00] Voice 7: be helpful i

[3:28:02] Trustee Grove (probable): would like to i would like to definitely

[3:28:03] Voice 9: be great i'd be very happy with that

[3:28:05] Voice 9: can

[3:28:06] Voice 14: i make one other suggestion i know that a lot of the challenges stem from this restrictive

[3:28:10] Voice 14: covenant right so all the properties that were originally connected to the channel ridge lands

[3:28:15] Voice 14: have this restrictive covenant on title which basically says within you know if you have this

[3:28:20] Voice 14: this covenant on title you are a part of this group of which there can only be x number of

[3:28:24] Voice 14: densities allowed in this right um one potential solution would be to have that covenant removed

[3:28:31] Voice 14: from our property but the way that this works i understand from our lawyers is that the people

[3:28:36] Voice 14: who the covenant is there to protect would have to agree i believe that involves the trust and

[3:28:41] Voice 14: and it would involve, if I'm not mistaken,

[3:28:43] Voice 14: one of the school boards or something of that nature.

[3:28:45] Voice 14: There was a bunch of different groups

[3:28:47] Voice 14: that were involved in the donation of the park lands

[3:28:50] Voice 14: and things that all had basically inputs.

[3:28:53] Voice 14: So that's one other thing I'm not sure if the trust,

[3:28:56] Voice 14: I know that the trust did a legal review on this,

[3:28:58] Voice 14: at least you already said that there was one.

[3:29:00] Voice 14: I'm not sure if that's something they looked at,

[3:29:01] Voice 14: the viability of simply removing the restricted covenant

[3:29:05] Voice 14: from this particular property

[3:29:06] Voice 14: so that this issue of dwelling units wasn't impacting it.

[3:29:10] Voice 9: yeah basically as long as um i'm trapped in this r6 zoning i can do nothing with my land until such

[3:29:17] Voice 9: time as channel ridge i guess finishes their project and does everything else i feel like

[3:29:22] Voice 9: i'm adaptive and i

[3:29:24] Voice 9: don't think it's i don't feel it's fair in any way shape or form um

[3:29:27] Voice 9: when our

[3:29:29] Voice 9: suggestion is very simple remove me from r6 or at the very

[3:29:33] Voice 14: least we'd love clarity on what the

[3:29:35] Voice 14: The process would eventually be for properties that are technically R6A, but obviously have zero connection to the actual building.

[3:29:43] Trustee Grove (probable): That makes sense. Thank you.

[3:29:45] Trustee Grove (probable): Thanks, Nick.

[3:29:46] Voice 3: So, we need a motion to defer to...

[3:29:49] Trustee Grove (probable): I don't think we need to do anything.

[3:29:51] Trustee Grove (probable): We need a motion to defer.

[3:29:53] Trustee Grove (probable): Okay.

[3:29:55] Trustee Grove (probable): I move that some application...

[3:29:58] Trustee Grove (probable): Sorry.

[3:30:04] Voice 4: that's right up at the top oh

[3:30:08] Trustee Grove (probable): sorry thank you for application ssr 2021.3 be deferred to a future

[3:30:15] Trustee Grove (probable): meeting i'll

[3:30:16] Trustee Patrick: second that any discussion no all

[3:30:19] Trustee Patrick: the hope all those in favor that's carried

[3:30:25] Trustee Grove (probable): pending advice from our planning manager the trust planning manager whatever you do

[3:30:34] Trustee Grove (probable): yeah

[3:30:34] Voice 9: i don't think

[3:30:35] Trustee Grove (probable): yeah i think you're one

[3:30:36] Voice 9: last question uh if i was to contact the awning group

[3:30:40] Voice 9: and ask them a very simple question do you have any concern with my land being rezoned

[3:30:45] Voice 9: and they give you a letter back stating no absolutely not does that make a difference i

[3:30:50] Voice 9: don't know i

[3:30:52] Trustee Grove (probable): you know what we're not going to wear them we can't advise you on that but if

[3:30:56] Trustee Grove (probable): that's something you want to do god bless you well

[3:30:57] Trustee Patrick: i mean because i i truly believe they

[3:30:59] Trustee Patrick: i would i

[3:31:00] Trustee Patrick: would speak with staff would be where i would direct you to to speak with them because we're

[3:31:05] Trustee Patrick: going to we're going to be looking to staff for their advice and

[3:31:08] Trustee Grove (probable): you don't want to you don't want

[3:31:09] Trustee Grove (probable): to burn your bridges somehow if we don't uh

[3:31:11] Voice 14: the uh the deferral of this so in the interim should

[3:31:17] Voice 14: i be getting in touch with someone on staff correct

[3:31:19] Trustee Patrick: if you have questions or want to carry

[3:31:21] Trustee Patrick: on dialogue yes please direct your questions to staff i believe georgianism is not playing

[3:31:25] Trustee Patrick: i'll look to louisa who should they direct questions i

[3:31:28] Voice 7: would assume anthony may be the

[3:31:31] Voice 7: assigned planner but i can't really say that because our rpm will do the assignment true but

[3:31:38] Trustee Patrick: i mean who

[3:31:38] Voice 7: in the meantime who should they should they talk to stephan for now it will be me

[3:31:42] Voice 7: that's why okay yeah so

[3:31:45] Trustee Patrick: direct questions to louisa okay sure um and there's a a new planner

[3:31:50] Trustee Patrick: coming in in the next month or do i understand we have a new regional planning manager

[3:31:54] Trustee Patrick: are coming on september 19th okay thank you

[3:31:57] Voice 9: stefan allowed to consider this in his new position

[3:32:00] Voice 9: i

[3:32:00] Trustee Patrick: have no i can't direct those questions to

[3:32:03] Trustee Patrick: staff i can't i really can't sorry i can't answer it

[3:32:06] Trustee Patrick: staffing

[3:32:07] Voice 3: changes

[3:32:09] Trustee Patrick: so or you know direct through louisa and she'll get you the

[3:32:12] Trustee Patrick: answers thank

[3:32:13] Voice 3: you very much thank

[3:32:14] Trustee Patrick: you so much um so going on here then uh only one application

[3:32:20] Trustee Patrick: today that was something was wrong yeah

[3:32:22] Voice 16: no it feels

[3:32:23] Trustee Patrick: strange um okay uh the next item of business

[3:32:29] Trustee Patrick: is 17.1.1 which is a referral from north pender on the uh land use bylaw review project

[3:32:37] Trustee Patrick: that they have so there's a series of uh bylaws i guess i could probably talk to them because

[3:32:43] Trustee Patrick: as I'm the chair of North Pender Local Trust Committee.

[3:32:50] Trustee Patrick: Hold on, will I get to the right page here?

[3:32:55] Trustee Patrick: Or 71, might help if I get on the right page, pardon me.

[3:33:03] Trustee Patrick: Okay.

[3:33:05] Trustee Patrick: So the main issue here is that they did a complete review

[3:33:10] Trustee Patrick: of their land use by-law.

[3:33:12] Trustee Patrick: So it's a new, an entire new by-law.

[3:33:16] Trustee Patrick: and there is they separated out the some changes to the land use by law that would require OCP

[3:33:24] Trustee Patrick: amendments so that's why there's three bylaws here one is an OCP amendment to allow facilitate

[3:33:29] Trustee Patrick: the changes to the land use bylaw for some pieces of it they did that very much on purpose because

[3:33:36] Trustee Patrick: the time frame it takes to get through the process and then there's one bylaw that is the entire new

[3:33:41] Trustee Patrick: land use bylaw. So this project is not going to proceed this term, but they are looking for our

[3:33:50] Trustee Patrick: feedback here. I don't know, I'm trying to think of the major pieces here that you'd be interested

[3:33:57] Trustee Patrick: in. Probably the most controversial issues that are in here are rezoning of the shoreline to

[3:34:05] Trustee Patrick: where there are docks, they're allowed, where there are no docks, they're not allowed. They

[3:34:12] Trustee Patrick: There's maximum floor areas in here, and they did some work on industrial land to broaden the uses on some of the industrial lands as well.

[3:34:29] Trustee Grove (probable): But in any event, would you agree RILTC's interests are unaffected by any of this?

[3:34:35] Trustee Patrick: I would.

[3:34:36] Trustee Patrick: it. Good.

[3:34:37] Trustee Grove (probable): I will move that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee request staff to respond to

[3:34:41] Trustee Grove (probable): the referral from North Panda Island Local Trust Committee by for bylaw number 223, 224 and 229

[3:34:47] Trustee Grove (probable): indicating that Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee's interests are unaffected. I'll second

[3:34:51] Trustee Patrick: that. Any discussion? No, thank you. All the vote. All those in favor? Good. And that's carried.

[3:34:57] Trustee Patrick: With that, I think we've finished our business. Unless there's any that you can think of that

[3:35:01] Trustee Patrick: you want to talk about?

[3:35:03] Trustee Grove (probable): Well done, Laura.

[3:35:04] Trustee Patrick: Otherwise, the next meeting is going to be

[3:35:05] Trustee Patrick: on october 11th i said october 12th so i was wrong too october 11th uh 9 30 at this location

[3:35:12] Trustee Patrick: and with that i just need a motion to adjourn

[3:35:14] Trustee Grove (probable): i'll second

[3:35:16] Trustee Patrick: all those in favor

[3:35:17] Trustee Patrick: we are adjourned thank you everyone for coming today

Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee Minutes ADOPTED 1 
September 6, 2022 
  
 
Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee 
Minutes of Regular Meeting 
 
 
Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 
  
Location: Community Gospel Chapel 
147 Vesuvius Bay Road, Salt Spring Island 
  
 
Members Present: 
 
 
Member Regrets: 
Laura Patrick, Local Trustee Acting Chair 
Peter Grove, Local Trustee 
 
Peter Luckham, Chair 
 
Staff Present: 
 
Louisa Garbo, Acting Regional Planning Manager (RPM) 
William Shulba, Senior Freshwater Specialist 
Charly Caproff, Planning Technician 
Rob Pingle, Planning Team Assistant 
Sarah Shugar, Recorder 
 
Others Present: 
 
Gulf Islands Driftwood Reporter 
Rhonan Heitzman, Housing Action Program Task Force Chair  
Gary Holman, Capital Regional District (CRD) Salt Spring Island Electoral 
Area Director  
Approximately 19 members of the public  
 
These minutes follow the order of the agenda although the sequence may have varied.  
 
1. CALL TO ORDER 
 
 Acting Chair Patrick called the meeting to order at 10:03 a.m. and welcomed everyone to a meeting 
of the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee. She introduced herself, the Trustee Grove and staff 
and  humbly stated  gratitude  to  live  and  work  in  Coast  Salish  First  Nations  treaty  and  traditional 
territory. 
  
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 
 
By general consent, the agenda was adopted. 
 
3. PREVIOUS MEETINGS 
 
3.1. Draft Minutes of the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee 
 
3.1.1. Draft Minutes of the August 9, 2022 SSI LTC Regular Meeting 
 
By  general  consent,  the  minutes  of August  9, 2022  Salt  Spring  Island  Local  Trust 
Committee Regular meeting were adopted. 

 
 
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3.2. Resolutions Without Meeting Report - None 
 
3.3. Draft Minutes of the Advisory Planning Commissions 
 
3.3.1. Advisory Planning Commission  
 
 3.3.1.1 Draft Minutes of the July 28, 2022 Draft Advisory Planning Commission 
  Meeting 
 
  The minutes were received. 
 
3.3.2. Agricultural Advisory Planning Commission  
 
 3.3.2.1 Notes from the July 28, 2022 Agricultural Advisory Planning   
    Commission Meeting 
 
  The meeting notes were received. 
 
3.3.3. Ganges Village Area Planning Task Force - None 
 
3.3.4. Housing Action Program Task Force 
 
3.3.4.1. Draft Minutes of the August 4, 2022 Housing Action Program Task  
  Force Meeting 
 
 The minutes were received. 
 
3.4. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee Public Hearing Record  
 
3.4.1. Proposed Bylaw No. 526 - Farmworker Housing 25 For Receipt 
 
   The public hearing record was received. 
 
3.4.2. Proposed Bylaw No. 530 - Accessory Dwelling Units 30 For Receipt 
 
   The public hearing record was received. 
 
4. BUSINESS ARISING FROM MINUTES 
 
4.1. Follow Up Action List dated July 2022 
 
The report was received. 
 
5. COMMUNITY INFORMATION MEETING – None 
 
6. PUBLIC HEARING - None 

 
 
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7. REPORTS 
 
7.1. Policy and Standing Resolutions List 
 
The report was received. 
 
7.2. Work Program Top Priorities Report dated August 2022 
 
The report was received. 
 
7.3. Projects List dated August 2022 
 
The report was received. 
 
7.4. Applications with Status Report dated August 2022 
 
The report was received. 
 
7.5. Expense Report dated June 2022 
 
 The report was received. 
 
7.6. Islands Trust Conservancy Board Report - None 
 
7.7. Salt Spring Island Watershed Protection Alliance (SSIWPA) Coordinator's Report – None 
 
7.8. Housing Action Program Task Force - Chair's Update 
 
Chair Heitzman provided an update and submitted a document entitled HAPTF Chair report 
to LTC, Sept. 6, 2022. 
 
8. LOCAL TRUST COMMITTEE PROJECTS 
 
8.1. Proposed Bylaw No. 526 – Farmworker Housing 
 
Acting  RPM Garbo presented  the  staff  report  dated August 20,  2022 concerning proposed 
Bylaw  No.  526 – Changes  to Residential  Permissions  in  the  Agricultural Land  Reserve  and 
Options for Dwellings on Large Farms. 
 
There  was  discussion  regarding communications during the  implementation  phase  of  the 
bylaw.  
 
 SS-2022-131 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 526, cited as “Salt Spring Island 
Land Use Bylaw No. 355, 1999, Amendment No. 3, 2021”, be read a third time.  
CARRIED 

 
 
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SS-2022-132 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 526, cited as “Salt Spring Island 
Land Use Bylaw No. 355, 1999, Amendment No. 3, 2021”, be forwarded to the Secretary of 
the Islands Trust for approval by the Executive Committee. 
CARRIED 
 
SS-2022-133 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That  the  Salt  Spring  Island  Local  Trust  Committee request  staff  to  prepare  communication 
materials  that  guide  the  public  to  understand  the  various  forms  of  housing  on  agricultural 
land and the steps necessary to be legally occupied. 
CARRIED 
 
8.2. Proposed Bylaw No. 530 – Accessory Dwelling Units  
 
Acting  RPM  Garbo  presented  a  staff  report  dated  August  24,  2022  concerning Housing 
Action Program Proposed Bylaw No. 530 “Accessory Dwelling Units”. 
 
SS-2022-134 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee request staff to research options to limit 
the number of Accessory Dwelling Units that may be  permitted in a given time  period and 
report back the strengths and weaknesses of the various options. 
CARRIED 
 
SS-2022-135 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That  the  Salt  Spring  Island  Local  Trust  Committee request  staff  to  review  Bylaw  530  and 
identify  opportunities  for  amendments  that  can  further  minimize  environmental  impacts, 
such as maximum total floor area, shared driveways, and proximity of structures and report 
back the strengths and weaknesses of the various options. 
CARRIED 
 
SS-2022-136 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee request staff to prepare communications 
materials  that  guides  the  general  public  to  understand  the  various  forms  of Accessory 
Dwelling Units and the steps necessary to be legally occupied. 
CARRIED 
 
SS-2022-137 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee request staff to review concerns raised at 
the recent public hearing for Bylaw 530 and provide recommendations. 
CARRIED 
 
 

 
 
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SS-2022-138 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee requests staff to consult with First Nations 
to address concerns regarding Bylaw 530. 
CARRIED 
 
8.3. Lake Weston Water Availability Study and Climate Change Assessment 
 
Senior Freshwater  Specialist  Shulba presented  a staff  report  dated August  24,  2022 
regarding Lake Weston Water  Availability  and  Climate  Change  Assessment. Freshwater 
Specialist Shulba  highlighted  that  Lake  Weston  is  fully  allocated  or  near  to  being  fully 
allocated and that any expansion of the Fulford Water Service  Area should not be  granted 
until further study is done. 
 
In discussion the following items were noted: 
 Lake Weston is the legal name from the BC Lakes Registry. 
 Spoke  to  the  opportunity  to  look  at  watershed  governance  and the relationships 
between land use and water use. 
 The Salt  Spring  Island  Watershed  Protection  Alliance  (SSIWPA) coordinated  the  Lake 
Weston Study. 
 
SS-2022-139 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That   the   Salt   Spring   Island   Local   Trust   Committee   receive   the   Lake   Weston Water 
Availability  and  Climate  Change  Assessment  Final  Report  attached  as  Appendix  1  to  the 
staff report dated August 24, 2022. 
CARRIED 
 
SS-2022-140 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That  the  Salt  Spring  Island  Local  Trust  Committee  request  staff  to  work  with the  Capital 
Regional  District  and  Government  of  British  Columbia  to  identify  funding  and  project 
management  opportunities  to  undertake  an  Environmental  Flow  Needs  assessment  for 
Lake Weston and Weston Creek.  
CARRIED 
 
SS-2022-141 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That  the  Salt  Spring  Island  Local  Trust  Committee  request  staff  to  refer  the  Lake  Weston 
Water  Availability  and  Climate  Change  Assessment  Final  report and  the  staff  report  dated 
August  24,  2022  to  the to  the  Ministry  of  Forests  Water  Authorizations  Branch for 
information, review and comment.  
CARRIED 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
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SS-2022-142 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That  the  Salt  Spring  Island  Local  Trust  Committee  request  staff  to  refer  the  Lake  Weston 
Water  Availability  and  Climate  Change  Assessment  Final  report  to  the  Salt Spring  Island 
Watershed Protection Alliance (SSIWPA) for information. 
CARRIED 
 
SS-2022-143 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That  the  Salt  Spring  Island  Local  Trust  Committee request  staff  to  coordinate  a  discussion 
with the Province,  Capital  Regional  District, Islands  Trust,  and  POLIS  on  the  topic  of 
Watershed Governance and the potential application of Water Objectives under the Water 
Sustainability  Act  in  the  Lake  Weston  Watershed specifically  in reference to  the “Water 
Objectives  Innovation  Brief” and  “Towards  Watershed  Security:  The  role  of  water  in 
modernized land use planning in B.C.” prepared by POLIS. 
CARRIED 
 
The meeting recessed for a lunch break at 11:10 p.m. and reconvened at 12:00 p.m. 
 
9. CLOSED MEETING – None 
 
10. TRUSTEE REPORTS 
 
Trustee Grove reported  he  is  nearing  the  end  of  his  Trustee  term  and expressed  support  for 
Trustee  Patrick.  He reported  Islands  Trust  has hired new  Salt  Spring  Island  Regional  Planning 
Manager Chris Hutton. Trustee Grove acknowledged Acting Regional Planning Manager Garbo. 
 
Trustee Patrick presented the following report: 
 The next Trust Council will be held September 20 and 21, 2022.  
 Attended  three  North  Pender  Island  Local  Trust  Committee  meetings  regarding  a  Land  Use 
Bylaw Review project. 
 Attended  a  Lasqueti  Island Local  Trustee  Committee  meeting  and  a  Thetis  Island  Local  Trust 
Committee meeting. 
 Attended   meetings   with   the   Regional Planning   Committee   and   the   Financial   Planning 
Committee. 
 Spoke to a Regional Planning Committee letter to the Province requesting assistance to explore 
what  can  be  done  to  create  housing  solutions  specific  to  rural  islands  within  the  Local  Trust 
Area including options for stable and secure funding. 
 Spoke to the housing crisis within the Local Trust Area.  
 Spoke to draft Bylaw No. 530 - Accessory Dwelling Units project principles.  
 Trustee Patrick  spoke to the  Elliott family art exhibition at  Mahon Hall and presented a quote 
from Elder and Knowledge Keeper Dr. John Elliott “The Creator told the people that we should 
look  after  the  land as  we would  our  relatives.  The  trees,  the ocean,  the  land,  the  Gulf  Islands 
are our relatives and it is our sacred law to protect them as we would our family.” 
 
11. CHAIR'S REPORT – None 
 

 
 
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12. CRD DIRECTOR'S REPORT  
 
Director Holman presented the following report: 
 Director  Holman spoke  to  the  2022  General  Local  Election  and reported  he  would  be  standing 
for  re-election  in  October 15, 2022. There  will be  a Southern  Gulf  Islands  Transportation 
Service Referendum and a Salt Spring Island Local Community Commission Referendum. Please 
see the CRD website at www.crd.bc.ca/vote for information.  
 The CRD 2023 provisional budget will be presented to the CRD Board for approval on September 
23, 2022. The 2023 provisional budget is a 3.5% increase from 2022. 
 The Salt Spring Island library has transitioned to a staff supported by volunteers’ model. 
 The Maliview Sewer Commission received a 2 million dollar Provincial grant for system upgrades 
and local ratepayers will be required to pay 10% of the system upgrade costs. 
 The  Mount  Erskine  Water  District  is  undertaking  a  feasibility  study  regarding  transitioning  to  a 
CRD entity. 
 The CRD received a grant for a Ganges Village Active Transportation Study.  
 CRD bylaw enforcement is  experiencing  staffing  issues  and staff  from  Victoria  are  assisting  for 
the interim. The RCMP installed no overnight parking signage on Hereford Avenue. 
 The BC Housing temporary housing site on Kings Lane  is ready for tenants to move  in although 
several Seabreeze Inne tenants have disputed the notice of eviction.  
 There are currently 35 to 40 staff vacancies at the Lady Minto Hospital in large part due to lack 
of housing availability. 
 The  Lake Weston Water  Availability  and  Climate  Change  Assessment Study is  complete.  The 
initial  results  are  precautionary  as  Lake Weston appears to  be  oversubscribed.  There  are 
questions regarding sustainability of Lake Westin. The Vortex development in Fulford Harbour is 
conducting a water analysis regarding whether Lake Weston can sustain additional demand. 
 Elected  officials  are  meeting  with Minister  Selina  Robinson regarding  the  BC  Speculation  and 
Vacancy Tax. 
 
13. CORRESPONDENCE 
 
 13.1 D. Bergholz to LTC - Dated July 4, 2022 - Concerning Walter Bay Pollution 
 
 The correspondence item was received. 
 
 13.2 M. Reiss to LTC - Dated July 28, 2022 - Concerning News Release regarding Short-Term  
  Vacation Rentals 
 
 The correspondence item was received. 
 
 13.3 K. Olsson to LTC - Dated August 4, 2022 - Concerning Speculation and Vacancy Tax 
 
 The correspondence item was received. 
 
  

 
 
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 13.4 R. Schnurr to LTC - Dated August 5, 2022 - Concerning Piers Island Association support  
  request for fibre optic internet service 
 
SS-2022-144 
 It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee request the LTC Chair to write in support 
of  the  Piers  Island  Association  regarding  item  13.4 a letter  dated  August  5,  2022 - 
Concerning the Piers Island Association support request for fibre optic internet service. 
 CARRIED 
 
 The correspondence item was received. 
 
13.5 T. Faurot to LTC - Dated August 5, 2022 - Concerning Rogers/CREST Cell Tower on Channel 
Ridge 
 
  The correspondence item was received. 
 
13.6 T. Lowry to LTC - Dated August 5, 2022 - Concerning 5G 316 For Information 
 
  The correspondence item was received. 
 
13.7 D. Wick to LTC - Dated August 8, 2022 - Concerning 154 Kings Lane, SSI 
 
  The correspondence item was received. 
 
13.8 Capital Regional District to LTC - Dated August 8, 2022 - Concerning Information regarding 
the Rainbow Recreation Centre Site Master Plan 
 
  The correspondence item was received. 
 
13.9 M.  Krenz  to  LTC - Dated  August  10,  2022 - Concerning  Rogers/CREST  Cell Tower  on 
Channel Ridge 
 
  The correspondence item was received. 
 
13.10 O.  McOuat  to  ISED,  LTC  et  al - Dated  August  11,  2022 - Concerning  Rogers/CREST  Cell 
Tower on Channel Ridge 
 
  The correspondence item was received. 
 
13.11 J. Clark to LTC - Dated August 20, 2022 - Concerning Rogers/CREST Cell Tower on Channel 
 Ridge 
 
 Trustee Grove noted he would follow up with Chair Luckham concerning the Rogers/CREST 
Cell Tower on Channel Ridge. 
 
  The correspondence item was received. 
 

 
 
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13.12 C. Coe to LTC - Dated August 20, 2022 - Concerning Vortex Decision 
 
  The correspondence item was received. 
 
14. DELEGATIONS 
 
14.1 Representative of the Summerside Townhomes (107 Atkins Road, SSI) – Concerning the 
new development within the townhouse strata 
 
 Summerside   Strata   Council   President   Linda   Underwood   presented   several   concerns 
regarding new  development  within  the Summerside townhouse  strata.  The  Summerside 
Strata Council requested the LTC require the developer to include lighting details and more 
information regarding the lock block wall in the development permit. 
 
 SS-2022-145 
 It was MOVED and SECONDED  
 That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee request staff to look into issues raised at 
the  meeting  of  Sept  6,  2022  regarding the Summerside townhouse  strata development 
specifically the lighting and the lock block wall. 
CARRIED 
 
15. TOWN HALL AND QUESTIONS 
 
Acting Chair Patrick opened the Town Hall at 12:40 p.m.   
 
A member  of  the  public expressed  concerns  regarding the Summerside townhouse  strata 
property  including  tree  coverage and  light  pollution and  spoke  to  the history  of  development 
within  the  area. The  member  of the  public  spoke to daily  rock  crushing  activity  for over  a year 
and expressed concerns that  Country Grocer is building a rock wall using rock  blasted from the 
Summerside strata property. 
 
Housing Action Program Task Force member Maïkan Bordeleau presented a written submission 
and spoke to  consultation  with  First  Nations  including  the  complexities  of  the  governance 
structures and the need to be more transparent with the public.  
 
A member of the public expressed concerns regarding the Rogers/CREST Cell Tower on Channel 
Ridge and requested the LTC to clearly articulate the reasons for the March 2022 rescindment of 
the concurrence decision to Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada (ISED) and 
that the LTC provide an update to constituents regarding the issue. 
 
Acting   Chair   Patrick   encouraged   members   of   the   public   to   submit   correspondence   to 
ssiinfo@islandstrust.bc.ca. 
 
  

 
 
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16. APPLICATIONS AND REFERRALS 
 
16.1. SS-RZ-2021.3 - T. Chapman - 361 Sunset Drive 
 
RPM  Garbo presented  a  staff  report  regarding application SS-RZ-2021.3 a  rezoning 
application to  amend the  Salt  Spring  Island Official  Community  Plan from  Channel  Ridge 
Residential to Residential Neighbourhoods and the Salt Spring Island Land Use Bylaw from 
Residential 6 (a) to Residential 8. 
 
 Applicant Tyler Chapman and property owner Bryce Chapman spoke to the application. 
 
SS-2022-146 
 It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That  the  Salt  Spring  Island  Local  Trust  Committee defer  application SS-RZ-2021.3 to  a 
future meeting (361 Sunset Drive). 
CARRIED 
 
17. OTHER BUSINESS  
 
17.1. New Business  
 
17.1.1. North Pender Island Local Trust Committee Referral of Proposed Bylaw Nos. 
223, 224 & 229  
 
A staff report dated August 25, 2022 regarding North Pender Island Local Trust 
Area Bylaw Nos. 223, 224 and 229. 
 
SS-2022-147 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee  request staff to respond to the 
referral from the  North Pender Island Local Trust  Committee  for Bylaw Nos. 223, 
224,  and  229  indicating  that  the  Salt  Spring  Island  Local  Trust  Committee’s 
interests are unaffected. 
CARRIED 
 
18. UPCOMING MEETINGS 
 
The next regular meeting of the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee is scheduled for 9:30 
a.m. on Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at the Community Gospel Chapel, 147 Vesuvius Bay Road, 
Salt Spring Island. Please see the meeting calendar on the Islands Trust website at 
www.islandstrust.bc.ca for current meeting information and location. 
 
19. ADJOURNMENT 
 
 By general consent the meeting adjourned at 1:21 p.m. 
 
 
 

 
 
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_________________________ 
Laura Patrick, Acting Chair 
 
CERTIFIED CORRECT: 
 
 
_________________________ 
Sarah Shugar, Recorder