Thetis Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, September 27, 2022

[0:00:00] Voice 8: and then into the uh caribou and just of course

[0:00:03] Voice 8: uh

[0:00:04] Voice 7: the planner and we don't have maybe two because i think there's are coming are running

[0:00:12] Voice 7: a few minutes late but we're going to start with some of the meeting but um uh we don't want to

[0:00:18] Voice 7: get too far because it's important the planner actually be here but the ferry is running late

[0:00:23] Voice 7: um so we're going to do a little bit of administrative work and a little bit of

[0:00:27] Voice 7: work through the the um uh through the the agenda before before we um before we start

[0:00:36] Voice 7: i'm sorry before they get here and then we'll pause to let them set up when they get here

[0:00:41] Voice 7: um so welcome to the galliano uh local trust committee meeting of september the 27th

[0:00:50] Voice 7: My name is Dan Rogers. I know many of you, so it's nice to see you all again on a beautiful Tuesday, and I'd like to acknowledge that we're meeting in the traditional territory of the Coast Salish peoples, and particularly the territory of the Connecticut Nation.

[0:01:10] It's particularly mindful to

[0:01:13] Voice 7: keep in mind that history and the relationship with the

[0:01:19] Voice 7: land that the First Nations have had.

[0:01:21] Voice 7: This is Truth and Reconciliation Week.

[0:01:26] Voice 7: Friday is National Truth and Reconciliation Day.

[0:01:32] Voice 7: That's really interesting.

[0:01:34] Voice 7: It's really great to meet someone, not me, because I usually organize everything on Tuesdays,

[0:01:38] Voice 7: is organizing an event for the first time that's where i come from and i'm quite touched and pleased

[0:01:44] Voice 7: that that is happening i'm sure there will be direct uh events and celebration and and or at

[0:01:51] Voice 7: least not celebration but recognition and discussions occurring uh on galeano this week

[0:01:59] Voice 7: um i'll introduce you know your two uh local trustees uh trustee wolverton uh jane wolverton

[0:02:07] Voice 7: and trustee Tahira.

[0:02:10] Voice 7: Sorry, I was thinking we were talking last night

[0:02:12] Voice 7: that how many times people get the first name wrong.

[0:02:15] Voice 7: Tahira Rockefeller.

[0:02:16] Voice 7: And we're very pleased to be here.

[0:02:19] Voice 7: Eventually, we'll have a planner.

[0:02:21] Voice 7: We also have Pat Todd with us,

[0:02:25] Voice 7: who's here on Zoom.

[0:02:27] Voice 7: She's our recorder.

[0:02:29] Voice 7: Nobody can see you, Pat, but hello.

[0:02:31] Voice 7: Nice to see you.

[0:02:33] Voice 7: Except the people that are watching on live stream

[0:02:35] Voice 7: can see you.

[0:02:35] Voice 7: uh the meeting is being live streamed and recorded so that anybody who wants to can

[0:02:42] Voice 7: watch the recording we may have some people watching us uh on live stream i can't tell

[0:02:47] Voice 7: from the screen i'm looking at how many people might be watching the live stream

[0:02:50] Voice 7: we can usually tell when it's interactive oh and there's our planner oh brad smith

[0:03:00] Voice 7: Oh, we'll just sort of start we just sort of just started right so I worry.

[0:03:10] Voice 7: Anyway, there anything we're going to have trustee reports in a moment.

[0:03:14] Voice 7: I have, I have one thing that is the agenda, which is a rising report, we had a short in camera meeting last time so I'll do that.

[0:03:27] Voice 7: as soon as the approval is the agenda is approved and before we get trustee reports but um subject

[0:03:34] Voice 7: to that that's the only amendment i have do i do you have something to add to the agenda

[0:03:38] Voice 7: i

[0:03:39] Voice 11: do i have a resolution under new items in the business okay

[0:03:44] Voice 11: regarding folks

[0:03:45] Voice 7: okay sorry

[0:03:49] Voice 14: i didn't catch that she had there's a

[0:03:52] Voice 7: resolution under new business

[0:03:54] Voice 7: thank you

[0:03:55] Voice 7: it'll be 16.2 and yes if you can't hear at any point let us know thank you

[0:04:05] Voice 7: um anything

[0:04:06] Voice 7: else from either trustee no okay then with that amendment and the amendment of ima will um will

[0:04:14] Voice 7: take the uh agenda approved as amended uh so quickly we i just reached a very quick rise in

[0:04:23] Voice 7: reports because of the way we have been doing in camera sessions and the recording we don't

[0:04:28] Voice 7: have we don't come out of camera um and do our rise report like we normally do would do during

[0:04:33] Voice 7: that meeting uh would do it in the subsequent meeting so we did have a shorting camera meeting

[0:04:38] Voice 7: back in july and um the end of july and we uh adopted some minutes from april and we considered

[0:04:45] Voice 7: some bylaw of course that was that's the only that's the report as to what we did in the

[0:04:52] Voice 7: in the uh in-camera meeting so with yeah

[0:04:55] Voice 15: september 6th oh

[0:04:58] Voice 7: sorry september 6th not july

[0:05:00] Voice 7: you're right i was thinking that i'm incorrect

[0:05:04] Voice 15: that's

[0:05:06] Voice 7: why the planners

[0:05:07] Voice 7: so um so with that uh we'll move into the agenda i know some of you might be here for the time for

[0:05:16] Voice 7: the public hearing uh we'll do the public hearing immediately after town hall um and uh so we'll

[0:05:24] Voice 7: we'll start that whole process at that time so it probably how long town hall is we'll be into

[0:05:30] Voice 7: the public hearing very shortly um so i'm going to turn it over to the trustees for their trustee

[0:05:36] Voice 7: reports we always do that at the episode of the meeting and uh who wants to go first

[0:05:45] Voice 11: sorry sorry

[0:05:48] Voice 9: because pat won't be able to hear a word

[0:05:51] Voice 9: no

[0:05:52] Voice 11: you

[0:06:00] Voice 1: can't hear i'm hearing nothing

[0:06:06] Voice 7: um yeah

[0:06:07] Voice 8: i think

[0:06:09] Voice 7: we might have to yeah

[0:06:21] Voice 11: Yeah, I'm sorry

[0:06:22] Voice 14: I'm still not picking up what you're saying.

[0:06:29] Voice 7: I'm going to move the camera closer to, to, to hear us so perhaps you'll be able to pick it up on what's over here.

[0:06:40] Voice 12: And

[0:06:41] Voice 11: that was it.

[0:06:50] Voice 11: it's not really important well no no i think it's worth commenting on uh

[0:06:54] Voice 16: yeah no so we talked a lot

[0:06:56] Voice 16: about governance and the analyst trust and what the trustees felt how we could move forward with

[0:07:01] Voice 16: that project which seems to be coming up for the next term that

[0:07:05] Voice 11: was it and i was just going to

[0:07:08] Voice 11: report back from the southern gulf island forum we met the other day and that's a forum that has

[0:07:13] Voice 11: included elected people from different levels of government whether it's the

[0:07:19] Voice 11: federal MP or local MLA or indigenous leadership in the area plus regional

[0:07:27] Voice 11: district and trustees so one of the things that Adam Olson reported on was

[0:07:34] Voice 11: that he's been meeting with a collaborative care group looking at

[0:07:41] Voice 11: establishing collaborative care health care across the islands so

[0:07:47] Voice 11: salt spring island and the outer islands so trying to look at some sort of way of

[0:07:55] Voice 11: sorry maximizing services by by collaborating so that was one thing and then

[0:08:01] Voice 11: just to let you know there the issue of road line alliance on the roads has come up on all islands

[0:08:08] Voice 11: And it appears that Ministry of Transport has been overwhelmed both by COVID, by the atmospheric river and the damage that that has created.

[0:08:21] Voice 11: So they have a lot of money vested in repairs, but for lines, road lines, only $180,000 for Southern Vancouver Island and the Gulf Islands.

[0:08:35] Voice 11: so it's not likely we're going to see any lines anytime soon yeah

[0:08:40] Voice 9: and

[0:08:41] Voice 11: and it's been raised with

[0:08:43] Voice 11: them over and over again how dangerous a number it just even some of the curves if we had lines

[0:08:49] Voice 11: on some of the curves it would would improve things

[0:08:52] Voice 16: a little note on that actually i did a

[0:08:53] Voice 16: study on lines on the road and the uk has new information coming forward that sometimes in

[0:08:59] Voice 16: fact it's safer to not have lines in the middle of the road because people slow down due to be more cautious

[0:09:05] Voice 11: and then i'll be bringing a resolution a little later about the goats on the island i think most

[0:09:15] Voice 11: people are

[0:09:15] Voice 11: aware that there are goats that are not contained and they're they're now into the

[0:09:22] Voice 11: park land and they're they're doing a lot of damage they're cute but they do okay that's all

[0:09:29] Voice 11: thank you okay

[0:09:31] Voice 7: thank you uh and of course trustee rockefeller is correct it's only been three weeks

[0:09:36] Voice 7: since our three and a half weeks since our last meeting and um and i was here on saturday with

[0:09:42] Voice 7: you as well many of you and so uh i'll just report that we that trust council was um uh was fully

[0:09:50] Voice 7: interactive. I think there's a recognition that well, it saves money. And in some cases,

[0:09:57] Voice 7: people can attend that might not otherwise be there. There is something about not meeting in

[0:10:03] Voice 7: person that is, it has not been particularly conducive to good dialogue on Trust Council

[0:10:10] Voice 7: from time to time. So this was another fully interactive, fully online meeting. It's the last

[0:10:18] Voice 7: one of was the last one of the term uh there probably are about um i think i counted that

[0:10:25] Voice 7: there were maybe 11 or 10 or 11 trustees not running again so we're going to have a substantial

[0:10:30] Voice 7: turnover at trust council again um as we did last term we had about half where we're brand new

[0:10:37] Voice 7: trustees anyway um with the two things we did come up we did have a good discussion about the

[0:10:42] Voice 7: governance report, its strengths and its flaws. I think there's some recognition that they got

[0:10:52] Voice 7: some things right and they got some things wrong. But the most important thing is that a governance

[0:10:59] Voice 7: committee has been struck. And so that committee, which will be made up of seven trustees and a

[0:11:05] Voice 7: couple of ad hoc people, will be the one that will study this issue going forward to try and find

[0:11:11] Voice 7: better ways for the organization to operate.

[0:11:14] Voice 7: So there are some useful suggestions

[0:11:18] Voice 7: that they'll be developing and looking at.

[0:11:22] Voice 7: We can always do better.

[0:11:24] Voice 7: So that's good.

[0:11:26] Voice 7: The other thing that we did,

[0:11:27] Voice 7: we spent a fair amount of time on at the Trust Council

[0:11:31] Voice 7: was the process around the trust policy statement.

[0:11:37] Voice 7: You may have seen a lot of correspondence.

[0:11:39] Voice 7: There hasn't been as much lately,

[0:11:40] Voice 7: lately. But you may recall that starting last fall and through the spring, there was quite a

[0:11:48] Voice 7: bit of community engagement around the trust policy statement. There was quite a bit of

[0:11:52] Voice 7: controversy around it last late spring and early summer. We've sort of rebooted that process again.

[0:12:00] Voice 7: We gave some pretty detailed direction to staff to go away and redraft some of the trust policy

[0:12:07] Voice 7: I think there was a recognition, although I didn't have trouble reading it, that a lot

[0:12:12] Voice 7: of people had trouble with the way it was formatted, the way it was set out, and what

[0:12:15] Voice 7: were directed policies, etc.

[0:12:17] Voice 7: So it's going back for a rewrite, and to also be rewritten to be more inclusive of Indigenous

[0:12:24] Voice 7: and First Nations, Indigenous concepts and First Nations, rewrite some of the proposed

[0:12:30] Voice 7: provisions around docks and waterfronts, etc.

[0:12:32] Voice 7: and we'll come back early in the new year again to trust council to try and get to get it before

[0:12:39] Voice 7: it goes back out for further consultation with the community meanwhile there is ongoing consultation

[0:12:44] Voice 7: with um first nations uh around that document so that was a half our half the second day was

[0:12:52] Voice 7: around that meeting um we also had an interesting presentation from the from representatives of the

[0:12:58] Voice 7: province around what they're they're calling their coastal marine strategy um i think bc is very late

[0:13:06] Voice 7: to this game um most i i remember hearing having a presentation from a couple of not-for-profits

[0:13:12] Voice 7: who've been lobbying the provincial government for quite some time and they were saying almost

[0:13:17] Voice 7: every other um maritime uh jurisdiction in north america has some sort of coastal marine strategy

[0:13:26] Voice 7: either a strategy or a regulation, et cetera,

[0:13:29] Voice 7: except BC, which is really odd when you think about it,

[0:13:32] Voice 7: that we've never had.

[0:13:33] Voice 7: So that's now a work in progress.

[0:13:36] Voice 7: They're working on their engagement plan

[0:13:40] Voice 7: and they'll be coming out to the various members

[0:13:44] Voice 7: of the community and also referral groups to work on that.

[0:13:47] Voice 7: I think their plan was by about this time next year,

[0:13:50] Voice 7: there should be a first draft of the strategy available.

[0:13:53] Voice 7: And all I can say is it's good to hear from them and it's about time to have a province-wide jurisdiction where the coast is so important to everybody to have a strategy around how to, dare I say, preserve and protect it.

[0:14:10] Voice 7: Okay, I think that's it. My meetings are continuing, but with the election pending, things are, in some places, are slowing down.

[0:14:21] Voice 7: So, we'll see how that goes.

[0:14:24] Voice 7: So, that's the chair's report.

[0:14:26] Voice 7: And the next thing I wanted to do was, before we go into town hall now, I'll ask you to, because we're trying to record and also the reporter is trying to hear, I'm going to move the camera back a little bit and be closer to the public,

[0:14:47] Voice 7: public um is if you have to speak in town hall please speak up and try to keep the background

[0:14:53] Voice 7: down noise we'll see how many more trucks drive by uh but the um the it's been fairly busy over

[0:15:00] Voice 7: there i guess the ferry just came in anyway the um the uh i remind you two things one is

[0:15:07] Voice 7: we're post-public hearing on on giggers so we won't be hearing anything from anyone on the

[0:15:13] Voice 7: the Giggers Affordable Housing Project.

[0:15:16] Voice 7: And we have a public hearing coming up

[0:15:19] Voice 7: right after town hall on Galley.

[0:15:22] Voice 7: So you can save your comments around Galley for that.

[0:15:25] Voice 7: But beyond that,

[0:15:26] Voice 7: we welcome any input that you want to make

[0:15:29] Voice 7: and any comments that you'd like to make

[0:15:32] Voice 7: to the local trust committee are received.

[0:15:35] Voice 7: So if you'd like to speak to the local trust committee

[0:15:38] Voice 7: right now, please put up your hand.

[0:15:40] Voice 7: Yes, Ms. Doty.

[0:15:41] Voice 7: yes

[0:15:42] Voice 4: um my question is for you chair rogers in your report

[0:15:46] Voice 8: you said that a governance committee

[0:15:48] Voice 8: was going to be struck it is struck

[0:15:50] Voice 8: okay so it's going to be comprised of or it is comprised of

[0:15:54] Voice 8: existing trustees and they're going to continue the work after no

[0:15:58] Voice 7: no so they'll have to be

[0:16:00] Voice 7: repopulate the committee once the election but they did they had two meetings over the summer

[0:16:06] Voice 7: they came in with their terms of reference they came in with um i think an order of work and

[0:16:11] Voice 7: And then we had a session that Trustee Rockefeller was talking about

[0:16:15] Voice 7: where the trustees were talking about what the priorities should be.

[0:16:19] Voice 7: So those priorities will be given to the next

[0:16:22] Voice 8: iteration

[0:16:23] Voice 7: of the Governance Committee.

[0:16:24] Voice 7: The

[0:16:24] Voice 8: new Governance Committee will be started in the spring.

[0:16:28] Voice 8: Okay. Yeah. Thank you.

[0:16:29] Voice 7: I was surprised it was March 20th. I don't think you have to wait that long.

[0:16:33] Voice 8: Yeah.

[0:16:34] Voice 7: Continuing, but it said no later than March of 2020.

[0:16:38] Voice 7: Okay. Thanks very much.

[0:16:39] Voice 7: anybody else

[0:16:40] Voice 7: wish to speak to the local trust community about anything other than galley or

[0:16:43] Voice 7: pickers i'm not seeing anything this is the quietest town hall i've ever seen on

[0:16:49] Voice 7: galeano

[0:16:50] Voice 7: but i guess it's because everybody is probably here to speak to the public hearing can i get

[0:16:56] Voice 7: doty's last name please d-o-t-y oh

[0:17:00] Voice 14: d-o-t why

[0:17:02] Voice 7: yeah and just so you know pat i know you do

[0:17:05] Voice 7: on name but on galeano we don't generally you don't want

[0:17:08] Voice 7: the name we don't usually put the

[0:17:10] Voice 7: names in oh okay got it we will in the public hearing but not in town okay

[0:17:15] Voice 14: thank you okay

[0:17:17] Voice 7: uh and i think that's it so unless there's anything else should we go right to the public

[0:17:22] Voice 7: yes

[0:17:22] Voice 12: i know

[0:17:24] Voice 7: you have to go um so trustee rockefeller is accusing herself uh from this

[0:17:32] Voice 7: But I just asked before we start this, if anybody knows they want to speak in the public hearing around galley,

[0:17:39] Voice 7: please get you put your name on the speakers list.

[0:17:42] Voice 7: And that's both so that we get it accurately. And so like and I'll call them in order, I've already put you on.

[0:17:49] Voice 10: I

[0:17:49] Voice 7: put you on first actually.

[0:18:16] Voice 7: So I'm afraid that if you've been through this process before, you know, there's a few formalities I have to go through before we start the process.

[0:18:25] Voice 7: But we'll get started now. So this is the public hearing for the proposed bylaw 280 is now open.

[0:18:32] Voice 7: I wish to welcome everyone in attendance, knowledge we're meeting in the territory of the Coast Salish First Nations.

[0:18:38] Voice 7: uh the public hearing is being this public hearing is being convened pursuant to section 465

[0:18:44] Voice 7: of the local government act in order to consider the following proposed bylaws

[0:18:49] Voice 7: proposed bylaw 280 cited as galliano landers bylaw number 127 1999 amendment number 3 2021

[0:19:00] Voice 7: all persons who believe that their interest in property or in this application is affected by

[0:19:07] Voice 7: the proposed bylaws we've given a reasonable opportunity to be heard or to present written

[0:19:12] Voice 7: submissions respecting matters contained in the proposed bylaws we've already received two written

[0:19:17] Voice 7: submissions today plus all of the ones that we have in our car those wishing to speak should

[0:19:24] Voice 7: commence their presentation by clearly stating their name and address members of the local trust

[0:19:30] Voice 7: committee may if they wish ask questions of you following your presentation however the main

[0:19:35] Voice 7: The main function of the local trust committee, which is made up of trustee Wolverton and myself, is to listen to the views of the public.

[0:19:43] Voice 7: It is not the function of committee members to debate the merits of those bylaws with individual citizens.

[0:19:49] Voice 7: Everyone will be given a reasonable opportunity to be heard, and none should feel discouraged for presenting his or her views.

[0:19:56] Voice 7: In considering the proposed bylaws, the local trust committee has received documents which may influence this decision.

[0:20:02] Voice 7: Those documents are available for review during this hearing on our website and as indicated

[0:20:09] Voice 7: in the public hearing notice, I think, is that the public hearing number right there?

[0:20:13] Voice 7: And it's, oh, it's up there.

[0:20:15] Voice 7: Thank you.

[0:20:15] Voice 7: I didn't see it.

[0:20:16] Voice 7: Thank you.

[0:20:17] Voice 7: So it's there if you want to look at it.

[0:20:19] Voice 7: If you haven't had a chance, it's been on the website, all the materials there.

[0:20:25] Voice 7: Any person who wishes, and by the way, if you wrote in to us, all your correspondence

[0:20:29] Voice 7: comments is on the website as well. We've read all of them, I believe. Any person who wishes to

[0:20:36] Voice 7: present a written submission to the local trust committee may do so, and all written submissions

[0:20:41] Voice 7: must be received by the local trust committee before the close of the hearing. Your only

[0:20:47] Voice 7: opportunity to comment on the proposed bylaws is during this hearing, as members of the local

[0:20:51] Voice 7: trust committee may not receive further submissions after the close of the hearing. After this hearing

[0:20:57] Voice 7: hearing has concluded uh the local trust committee uh without may without further notice make

[0:21:04] Voice 7: whatever decision it deems proper respect to the bylaw that is the subject of the public hearing

[0:21:09] Voice 7: so island planner brad smith will now summarize the public hearing notice

[0:21:14] Voice 7: key points of the bylaw and referral agency responses over to you fire smith

[0:21:23] Voice 15: i'm going to just move

[0:21:24] Voice 7: the the mic over

[0:21:26] Voice 7: closer to you so that i can hear you

[0:21:28] Voice 14: i could i couldn't

[0:21:29] Voice 14: hear him yeah thank you hi brad thanks

[0:21:34] Voice 15: for doing this today so i'm just

[0:21:36] Voice 15: going to read this statement

[0:21:37] Voice 15: out there's a copy or sorry a copy of public notice was advertised in two consecutive editions

[0:21:42] Voice 15: of the driftwood on september 14th and september 21st 2022 all notification requirements under the

[0:21:49] Voice 15: local government act have been completed there's a copy of the complete public hearing binder

[0:21:53] Voice 15: available during this public hearing and it is also located on the island's trust website

[0:21:58] Voice 15: the purpose of proposed bylaw 280 if adopted will amend galliano island land use bylaw 127

[0:22:04] Voice 15: by rezoning the subject property known as galliano green to allow for the development of up to 20

[0:22:09] Voice 15: residential affordable housing rental units the property is currently

[0:22:12] Voice 15: zoned community housing

[0:22:13] Voice 15: one and rezoning is required to allow for an increase in permanent density from one dwelling

[0:22:18] Voice 15: per lot to 20 dwellings per lot other amendments are also required to align the existing ch1 zoning

[0:22:24] Voice 15: for the subject property with the applicant's multi-unit affordable housing development proposal

[0:22:29] Voice 15: the proposed bylaw was purged for the ministry of forest lands and natural resource operations

[0:22:34] Voice 15: water licensing branch ministry of attorney general and minister responsible housing

[0:22:39] Voice 15: ministry of transportation and infrastructure pc hydra and power authority galliano trails

[0:22:44] Voice 15: Society, BC Housing, Island Health, Galliano, Ireland, Fire Rescue, South Departments of the

[0:22:51] Voice 15: Fire Department, the CRD through the Galliano Parks and Recreation Commission, Building Inspection,

[0:22:58] Voice 15: Regional Housing Departments, the Gambier, Maine, Salt Spring, Thetis Island Local Trust Committees

[0:23:04] Voice 15: for comment. It was also referred to Couch and Trudge, Halal First Nations, Lake Couch and First

[0:23:09] Voice 15: First Nation, Laksan First Nation, Malahat First Nation,

[0:23:12] Voice 15: Musqueam Indian Man, Makwechian First Nation,

[0:23:15] Voice 15: Penelakut Tribe, Semiyama First Nation,

[0:23:17] Voice 15: Tsunemux First Nation, Tsunemus First Nation,

[0:23:21] Voice 15: Tsarskip First Nation, Seau First Nation,

[0:23:24] Voice 15: Tawassum First Nation, Sakem First Nation,

[0:23:26] Voice 15: and the Wausau Leadership Council for comment.

[0:23:28] Voice 15: There have been approximately 58 public submissions

[0:23:32] Voice 15: received as of today.

[0:23:35] Voice 15: Chair Rogers.

[0:23:40] Voice 7: to be made at any time during and until the close of the hearing if any submissions are received

[0:23:45] Voice 7: during the meeting we will pause prior to closing to ensure that the ltc has time to review those

[0:23:50] Voice 7: written submissions i invite members of the public who wish to speak uh come forward as i call your

[0:23:56] Voice 7: name without according on the list and if you haven't put your name on the list and you know

[0:24:01] Voice 7: you want to speak uh please i'll just leave the list for asking you to do that now um

[0:24:16] Voice 7: please state your name prior to making comments after your presentation to the ltc the trustees

[0:24:22] Voice 7: may ask you questions but they are primarily here to listen and will not debate the merits with you

[0:24:28] Voice 7: i will call three times for speakers before closing the hearing at which point no further

[0:24:33] Voice 7: written or oral submissions can be made uh we'll now proceed with public hearing and what i would

[0:24:42] Voice 7: i'd like to ask please coming to speak if you could come and sit in this chair uh while you're

[0:24:48] Voice 7: speaking to us so that we can make sure that your comments are received by way of the um are occurred

[0:24:56] Voice 7: heard by the by the recorder so first person on my list is Mary Jean

[0:25:02] Voice 7: Ellis so if you'd like to

[0:25:05] Voice 7: come forward if you don't mind coming sitting I know that looks a little bit like you're at the

[0:25:09] Voice 7: front of the class but it's just so we can get the commentary and if you could try and I don't

[0:25:19] Voice 7: I mean the list is not as lengthy as it has been other public hearings so I'm going to ask

[0:25:23] Voice 7: been trying to keep the commentary to under five minutes so nice to see you thank you okay

[0:25:30] Voice 18: my name is mary jean elliott and i live at 534 georgeson bay road and i've been a resident for

[0:25:37] Voice 18: 47 years and i just know just about everybody that's here and i want you to know that i'm not

[0:25:45] Voice 18: against low-cost housing i think it's a good thing for galliano but i want to make because

[0:25:51] Voice 18: it's going to be located next door to me I want to make sure that it's done right

[0:26:00] Voice 18: and so I have some comments one is I question the the regulation of the

[0:26:18] Voice 18: the housing committee or the housing agreement between the owner, the local, the non-profit

[0:26:38] Voice 18: society and the Islands Trust Committee.

[0:26:42] Voice 18: Committee. Thinking that in the future, there may be some problems with one of the directors

[0:26:55] Voice 18: of the housing society being a trustee on the trust committee. And I wonder how that's

[0:27:10] Voice 18: going to be dealt with to me it looks like conflict of interest and i want i i want to

[0:27:17] Voice 18: make sure that there's something in the agreement that states that the overseer of the housing

[0:27:30] Voice 18: agreement is not in conflict i don't know if that's put in already in uh in your um in your

[0:27:43] Voice 18: bylaw 285 your administration bylaw or not but i think it should be something in there about

[0:27:52] Voice 18: conflict of interest because in the it's a small island and in the future any director on the

[0:28:00] Voice 18: directors change and the trustees change and there should be something in there that's permanent

[0:28:05] Voice 18: that they're not in in in cahoots okay and that i i agree that everything preserve and protect

[0:28:21] Voice 18: items are been thoroughly investigated on the property itself on the 10 acres which is really

[0:28:28] Voice 18: only seven and a half acres when you deduct the setbacks and the riparian areas um so i'm thinking

[0:28:37] Voice 18: about 50 people on the density of 50 people on seven and a half acres next door to me and

[0:28:48] Voice 18: it's all been looked after engineering reports and everything else but what is missing

[0:28:54] Voice 18: is there's been no research on the effect of 50 people next door to me and that's other

[0:29:01] Voice 18: surrounding properties and also there's been no reports of the effect of the extra traffic of 50

[0:29:10] Voice 18: uh maybe 50 cars maximum coming out of that driveway where it's right next to the senior

[0:29:16] Voice 18: your housing where people come out of the driveway and all those stores the museum the fire hall the

[0:29:28] Voice 18: community hall which is has a problem parking anyway and uh the pub etc and i think there

[0:29:35] Voice 18: should be a traffic um investigation of the effect of that much density in that area

[0:29:45] Voice 18: um otherwise uh it's a good plan for the rentals people and i know that it's needed on this

[0:29:54] Voice 18: island badly um uh i

[0:30:00] Voice 18: My suggestion, and it's probably too late, but I would think that a lesser density in that one area would be better, like half of what's predicted, 10 homes instead of 20, and the rest of the density you want for low-cost housing be spread out over the island.

[0:30:30] Voice 18: and this was tongue in cheek there are lots of signs around the island that says yes in my

[0:30:37] Voice 18: backyard you would think that some of those would accommodate the areas would accommodate some of

[0:30:45] Voice 18: the housing just tongue-in-cheek i think it's quite ironic there is lots of area on galliano

[0:30:52] Voice 18: and I know that everybody I've spoken to is concerned with cost but I my feeling and my

[0:31:00] Voice 18: belief is that if you're trying to protect and preserve the island it should not be based on

[0:31:07] Voice 18: cost because there's all sorts of ways to get grants and raise money and and and that if if

[0:31:16] Voice 18: If you're basing your extra density on cost,

[0:31:24] Voice 18: it's not preserving and protecting the island

[0:31:27] Voice 18: as it should be.

[0:31:30] Voice 18: And that's all I have to say.

[0:31:32] Voice 18: Okay,

[0:31:32] Voice 10: thanks very much.

[0:31:35] The

[0:31:39] Voice 7: next person I have on my list is Stephen Ryback.

[0:31:52] Voice 3: Stephen Ryback, 289 Linkletter.

[0:31:55] Voice 3: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

[0:31:56] Voice 3: I would urge that the local trustees approve this particular rezoning.

[0:32:04] Voice 3: I believe that there has been a thorough examination of neighbors' concerns and issues, neighbors and islands' concerns and issues through the studies and the activities undertaken by the proponent, by staff reports, and by other experts.

[0:32:24] Voice 3: experts. I was satisfied at the recent community information meeting that those issues which

[0:32:35] Voice 3: have not been specifically addressed by this rezoning or which will fall to later regulatory

[0:32:44] Voice 3: regulatory examination, that those particular issues will be addressed by the subsequent

[0:32:52] Voice 3: authorities. Health issues, for example, or location of a final location and design of

[0:33:00] Voice 3: septic fields. I believe that approval will cap a milestone year in beginning to address

[0:33:07] Voice 3: Galliano's affordable housing needs. Thank you. Thanks very much.

[0:33:13] the

[0:33:17] Voice 7: next name on my list is um diane craig you'll

[0:33:27] Voice 26: recall that i have a little anxiety about this but

[0:33:30] Voice 26: i'm doing it anyway thanks

[0:33:32] Voice 7: i appreciate your views okay

[0:33:35] Voice 26: so thank you very much for the opportunity

[0:33:38] Voice 26: my name is diane craig um i own lot 2 plan 9077 which is at 481 pearly pass road

[0:33:47] Voice 26: road. This parcel shares a boundary with the subject parcel that is approximately 100 meters

[0:33:53] Voice 26: or 325 feet. So the residents of this rental housing will be my immediate neighbors as well

[0:34:00] Voice 26: as my lovely neighbor, Mary Jane's. First, let me state clearly that I am actually fully in

[0:34:06] Voice 26: support of this bylaw. I, like Mary Jane, like some others, I wish it was smaller. Of course I do.

[0:34:12] Voice 26: it's it's next door to me that doesn't matter this isn't about my perfect world it's about

[0:34:18] Voice 26: making a stronger and a more stable community we all benefit and for every community project

[0:34:24] Voice 26: there'll be some of us who are inconvenienced by construction noise and loss of privacy

[0:34:30] Voice 26: and the new strangers of nearby neighbors that we've never had before but i think we also gain

[0:34:35] Voice 26: neighbors and we gain friends i also understand that there are other neighbors who have concerns

[0:34:40] Voice 26: about this new housing and how it will impact them.

[0:34:43] Voice 26: I completely understand that.

[0:34:45] Voice 26: But I think that this is our best chance

[0:34:48] Voice 26: because this particular housing development

[0:34:50] Voice 26: is going to be owned and managed by a non-profit local board.

[0:34:55] Voice 26: We know the people on this board.

[0:34:57] Voice 26: And it gives everyone the best possible chance

[0:34:59] Voice 26: of having their concern met in the long term,

[0:35:01] Voice 26: not just right now at the time of rezoning.

[0:35:04] Voice 26: So as is my habit, I did take the time

[0:35:07] Voice 26: to read all of the supporting documentation.

[0:35:09] Voice 26: And as you know, it takes a while.

[0:35:12] Voice 26: I don't have any outstanding concerns at all.

[0:35:15] Voice 26: I truly support this bylaw as a neighbor and as a member of the community.

[0:35:19] Voice 26: And I would ask you to please move it forward as soon as possible.

[0:35:22] Voice 26: Thank you.

[0:35:22] Voice 26: Thanks very much.

[0:35:25] Voice 7: The next name I have on my list is Emma Davis.

[0:35:32] Voice 11: Emma's outside.

[0:35:33] Voice 7: Oh, Emma's outside.

[0:35:34] Voice 11: So

[0:35:35] Voice 7: this is the person that you're not going to be able to hear.

[0:35:38] Voice 7: So because she she's not coming in the mall.

[0:35:44] Voice 7: Okay, so

[0:35:54] Voice 7: She did she wander away.

[0:35:56] Voice 11: I think she's coming.

[0:35:57] Voice 11: Oh, yeah,

[0:35:58] Voice 11: here we go.

[0:35:59] Voice 11: Here she goes.

[0:36:08] Hi, everybody.

[0:36:13] Voice 8: I'm Emma Davis,

[0:36:17] Voice 8: and I'm

[0:36:19] Voice 8: going to put my phone

[0:36:20] Voice 8: over here.

[0:36:22] Voice 8: I'm sorry, everybody.

[0:36:25] Voice 8: I appreciate your patience.

[0:36:28] Voice 8: I will just add

[0:36:30] Voice 8: one tiny comment that really should go in the open house. Public hearings should have a way to be attended remotely. LCC should too, but public hearings even more so. It's bad enough that this meeting is taking place during business hours and that excludes many people from participating.

[0:36:45] Voice 8: It's nice to listen to Trust Radio, but requiring in-person attendance in order to participate is not really an appropriate way to do local government for 2022.

[0:36:54] Voice 8: 2022. COVID aside, it's less accessible on many levels. I think everybody knows that, but it felt like a poster child today. I wanted to just take the opportunity to tell you this.

[0:37:05] Voice 8: I have submitted a letter of support for this project, but my property is split into two blocks, and I put my address at 715 48

[0:37:14] Voice 10: when I submitted.

[0:37:16] Voice 10: I

[0:37:18] Voice 8: should have used five, six, five for the name.

[0:37:21] Voice 8: That's the lot of chairs boundary with the gallery project.

[0:37:25] Voice 8: It is located next door to me.

[0:37:28] Voice 8: I started the guest in my backyard sign camping.

[0:37:31] Voice 8: It wasn't time and cheek.

[0:37:33] Voice 8: It was very little for me.

[0:37:35] Voice 8: I would echo 201, everyone, Diane's sentiments.

[0:37:41] Voice 8: I understand there is a minimum density required to receive funding from other levels of government.

[0:37:45] Voice 8: And I'm happy with the level of them to be proposed because I think that that is a fee that we would have, by the way.

[0:37:52] Voice 8: I believe that them housing is exactly what the Food and Drug Protect mandate has more people with lower footprint.

[0:37:59] Voice 8: And I just wanted to reiterate my part

[0:38:01] Voice 8: of the sentence right now.

[0:38:03] Voice 11: Sorry, I missed that. Am I missing the last part of your sentence?

[0:38:07] Voice 11: I

[0:38:08] Voice 8: just wanted to correct, to reiterate my support and correct the

[0:38:10] Voice 8: address as well.

[0:38:10] Voice 8: Okay, thank you.

[0:38:11] Voice 8: Thank you.

[0:38:13] Voice 7: So that was Emma Davids-Pott. She was in support of the application.

[0:38:16] Voice 7: Yes. I don't know how much you've heard. The next person we have is Colleen Doty.

[0:38:27] Voice 4: Good afternoon. My name is Colleen Doty. I'm at 654 Borough Road on Galeano.

[0:38:32] Voice 4: I am fully in support of this application as presented. I would also like to state that the

[0:38:41] Voice 4: preserve and protect mandate also applies to the sustainability of the community and currently our

[0:38:46] Voice 4: community is not sustainable we have a crippling housing crisis that has been extensively documented

[0:38:52] Voice 4: this proposal of galley is the culmination of decades of community involvement in hundreds

[0:38:58] Voice 4: of thousands of dollars of investment across different societies non-profit organizations

[0:39:04] Voice 4: and the current charity and much of that went into studies numerous studies we've studied this

[0:39:11] Voice 4: over and over again and the time to act is now you have the power please approve

[0:39:18] Voice 4: the this bylaw thank you next

[0:39:22] Voice 7: person I have on my list is Barbara good

[0:39:31] Voice 22: afternoon

[0:39:32] Voice 22: and my name is Barb Graham I live at 574 Gulf Drive on Galliano and I'm a

[0:39:38] Voice 22: full-time resident I have a letter which I didn't get the chance to get to you

[0:39:44] Voice 22: beforehand but i've got copies for everyone so i'll just read it out this letter is in support

[0:39:50] Voice 22: of galley's application for rezoning to allow 20 affordable rental housing units on the galliano

[0:39:55] Voice 22: green property the non-profit society has demonstrated the need for and feasibility

[0:40:01] Voice 22: of the multi-unit approach and prepared a credible plan for the site other authorities including the

[0:40:08] Voice 22: water licensing branch and vancouver island health authority already gave green lights to the initial

[0:40:14] Voice 22: plans and will continue their oversight to ensure the final water septic and other systems are safe

[0:40:22] Voice 22: for the community no proposal for affordable housing gets serious consideration for capital

[0:40:30] Voice 22: funding until it demonstrates local community support in three major ways zoning approval

[0:40:37] Voice 22: approval, committed local champions, and financial support.

[0:40:42] Voice 22: This project has the last two, the sweat equity of an active working nonprofit board and volunteer

[0:40:50] Voice 22: team dedicated to multi-year efforts to make this happen, and the donated land and financial

[0:40:58] Voice 22: assistance of many community members that enabled industry professionals to undertake

[0:41:05] Voice 22: take pre-development work and prepare the application in front of you today. You have

[0:41:11] Voice 22: been presented with a solid plan aligned with Galliano's rural nature and at 20 units on a 10

[0:41:18] Voice 22: acre property, a density similar to some other areas of this island. There are enough units to

[0:41:24] Voice 22: make a dent in the affordable housing needs of Galliano renters and to create an adequate space

[0:41:31] Voice 22: over which to spread fixed costs giving this proposal the chance to compete with other

[0:41:37] Voice 22: projects elsewhere in attracting sector funding to finalize the plans and construct the buildings

[0:41:45] Voice 22: please give final reading and approval to the galley rezoning application

[0:41:50] Voice 22: of the proposed 20 densities thank you for your time and attention very much

[0:42:04] Voice 10: thanks very much

[0:42:05] Voice 10: um

[0:42:06] Voice 7: next name on my list speaker is doug hello

[0:42:32] Voice 2: my name is doug latta 1029 montague

[0:42:39] Voice 2: um first of all i'm very much in favor of this galley proposal i think density

[0:42:48] Voice 2: as even mary jean announced that you need density in order to support affordable housing

[0:42:55] Voice 2: I think affordable housing is needed if we are going to keep young people on the island, if we're going to have a sustained economy, farmers, business people can't find laborers.

[0:43:14] Voice 2: Farmers have to pay $30 an hour for somebody to work on a farm.

[0:43:21] Voice 2: Imagine what you have to sell your food for.

[0:43:29] Voice 2: There's been many volunteers involved in this and much, much individual money spent.

[0:43:34] Voice 2: I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE QUESTION, WHERE IS THE GOVERNMENT?

[0:43:43] Voice 2: IT'S ALL VERY WELL FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO NEED LOCAL PEOPLE TO DEMAND THESE THINGS,

[0:43:49] Voice 2: BUT ULTIMATELY THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO BE BEHIND THESE THINGS.

[0:43:54] Voice 2: OTHERWISE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ANYWHERE.

[0:43:58] Voice 2: THANK YOU.

[0:44:17] Voice 20: NEW SPEAKER THANK YOU, CHAIR ROGERS AND TRUSTEE

[0:44:24] Voice 20: will return for this opportunity a globe and mail headline just last week stated canada's

[0:44:30] Voice 20: homeownership rate falls to 20-year low census shows with the corporatization of housing and

[0:44:36] Voice 20: rising real estate prices homeownership is becoming less and less feasible for greater

[0:44:41] Voice 20: numbers of households not just on galliano but around the world rapidly increasing rents and

[0:44:46] Voice 20: privately or corporately owned real estate is making rent ever more difficult everywhere we

[0:44:52] Voice 20: are in a global housing crisis. Never has it been more crucial to find solutions to that crisis

[0:44:58] Voice 20: right here. Galliano has a great history of communities coming together to support one

[0:45:03] Voice 20: another. There will be many creative solutions needed to address this growing crisis.

[0:45:09] Voice 20: Gali's proposal is one of them. I know firsthand the hard work and diligence that have gone into

[0:45:16] Voice 20: creating a sound and viable proposal for these 20 clustered homes on the Galliano Green site.

[0:45:22] Voice 20: galley has reached out to neighbors from the beginning legitimate questions and concerns

[0:45:27] Voice 20: have been raised most importantly about water septic density and affordability

[0:45:33] Voice 20: galley has heated guidance and advice from our ltc islands trust staff hired professionals

[0:45:39] Voice 20: and provincial regulatory bodies regarding water management septic environmental concerns

[0:45:45] Voice 20: and the housing agreement galley has benefited from legal advice from both islands trust lawyers

[0:45:51] Voice 20: lawyers and their own legal counsel to develop a solid housing agreement and 219 covenant

[0:45:56] Voice 20: protecting both the future residents neighbors and the land all concerns have been carefully

[0:46:02] Voice 20: and thoughtfully addressed galley has earned the support of the community of the galliano

[0:46:07] Voice 20: community near and far including page drive and others who share a property line as well

[0:46:13] Voice 20: as numerous residents in the galliano estates neighborhood nearby i urge you to give second

[0:46:18] Voice 20: and third reading to this proposal and support galley to move forward to do their part in

[0:46:24] Voice 20: addressing the housing crisis on galliano thank you thank

[0:46:29] Voice 9: you very much uh

[0:46:34] Voice 7: jeff

[0:46:43] Voice 23: i'm urging the local trust committee to approve rezoning and proceed immediately to

[0:46:51] Voice 23: second and third reading um i think my experience as a member of the galley board i'm no longer a

[0:46:57] Voice 23: members of the board leads me to think this is an extremely well planned and thought out

[0:47:04] Voice 23: project. But I particularly want to express my support for confidence in and appreciation

[0:47:12] Voice 23: of the extremely conscientious and professional ecological report and express my appreciation

[0:47:20] Voice 23: for the professional and personal integrity of the report.

[0:47:27] Voice 7: Thanks very much, sir.

[0:47:32] Voice 7: Deb Gwynn.

[0:47:45] Voice 27: I'm wondering, my next-door neighbor is in Vancouver.

[0:47:49] Voice 27: Can I also just do a brief message from her after I do mine?

[0:47:53] Voice 7: Sure.

[0:47:54] Voice 27: Okay, thank you.

[0:47:56] Voice 27: And I didn't really have the time to prepare,

[0:47:58] Voice 27: but my name is Deb Gwynn.

[0:47:59] Voice 27: My address is 452 Linklater Road.

[0:48:02] Voice 27: I've been a resident of Galliana for 28 years, a renter for 10 years, and thanks to the good

[0:48:08] Voice 27: graces of Jane Rule, a homeowner for 18.

[0:48:14] Voice 27: I am a neighbor of Galley, I'm a member of the Galliano Estates water system that has

[0:48:21] Voice 27: water storage right across from the Galley site, and I wholeheartedly support this initiative.

[0:48:28] Voice 27: I echo much of what's already been said by many people.

[0:48:30] Voice 27: um i i did want to reiterate i i feel reasonably reassured that um our water won't be negatively

[0:48:38] Voice 27: impacted by galley um and in talking to some of the neighbors about it a lot of them said

[0:48:44] Voice 27: uh who hopefully wrote this in their own letters that even if there was any adverse impacts um

[0:48:52] Voice 27: would still support the project because we're in this together and we would work together to adopt

[0:49:00] Voice 27: to anything, to any sort of impact.

[0:49:03] Voice 27: So that was some of the people

[0:49:05] Voice 27: who are right across in the Galleano State.

[0:49:08] Voice 27: I do understand the impulse to hoard resources

[0:49:11] Voice 27: during climate changing times,

[0:49:14] Voice 27: but I hope that we'll resist that me first impulse

[0:49:16] Voice 27: because we are stronger together.

[0:49:19] Voice 27: And I don't believe that because of the forces

[0:49:21] Voice 27: that enabled me to become a homeowner,

[0:49:24] Voice 27: owner, I have any more right to claim the water that is in the aquifer beneath where I'm privileged

[0:49:32] Voice 27: to live. Again, as has been stated by lots of other people, all ecosystems, environmental and

[0:49:39] Voice 27: social, need diversity to thrive. This project is a really critical aspect of bringing that to

[0:49:46] Voice 27: fruition or protecting it. And I guess on that point, I want to say a couple of things. As people

[0:49:51] Voice 27: People talk about upholding the preserve and protect mandate,

[0:49:55] Voice 27: which I really do believe in,

[0:49:57] Voice 27: but I do feel like doing that doesn't mean keeping Galliano

[0:50:01] Voice 27: in an elitist time capsule.

[0:50:03] Voice 27: Preserving and protecting are verbs that are active and involving.

[0:50:12] Voice 27: That involve innovating and responding to evolving community needs

[0:50:16] Voice 27: and balancing the needs of the environment and the community.

[0:50:19] Voice 27: And so I really, oh, and I also just wanted to say, I do trust the, thanks for the sound

[0:50:26] Voice 27: cut, and I do trust the due diligence of all of you and the numerous dedicated volunteers

[0:50:36] Voice 27: who have poured out hundreds and thousands of hours over the last two decades to try

[0:50:41] Voice 27: to bring this project to fruition through here.

[0:50:43] Voice 27: so um and i'm just gonna speak on behalf of uh so my neighbor is kate saunders and she's at 5 10

[0:50:54] Voice 27: link later road also on the water system across the way neighbor of galley uh so kate saunders

[0:51:01] Voice 27: part-time resident and future neighbor of galliano this type of purpose-built affordable housing is

[0:51:08] Voice 27: long overdue i am now close to i now know close to a dozen people who have been living in seasonal or

[0:51:14] Voice 27: substandard housing here including essential service providers and health care professionals

[0:51:20] Voice 27: it's absolutely unacceptable that a very small group of outspoken naysayers have delayed projects

[0:51:25] Voice 27: like this and cost tens of thousands of dollars to non-profit organizations and taken excessive

[0:51:31] Voice 27: amounts of time from those who are working tirelessly to create secure housing for our

[0:51:35] Voice 27: valued long-term residents give the voices give the voices of the majority of our community your

[0:51:42] Voice 27: attention and support this this for this project once and for all

[0:51:46] Voice 7: thank you um that's the end of my

[0:51:51] Voice 7: list uh so i'm gonna ask okay

[0:51:55] Voice 7: okay i'm gonna ask who else wants to speak and i'll um

[0:51:59] Voice 7: take your name down. I'll start, I'll start over. Oh my goodness. I'll start there.

[0:52:05] Voice 7: Yes. Thank you.

[0:52:13] Voice 10: You're going to put the names on.

[0:52:18] Voice 25: Hi, my name is Lorelei Allen. I came to

[0:52:22] Voice 25: Galeano with my husband approximately 20 years ago, and we were welcomed by this community.

[0:52:29] Voice 25: We felt it was a community this is where we are have built been building our lives, and we see how difficult it is to get land to rent a place or to build a place which we are doing right now it is extremely difficult but we're plowing ahead

[0:52:48] Voice 25: with it we're building a modest home, because this is our community and this is where we want to live.

[0:52:54] Voice 25: we want to help build this community going forward and this housing project along with gigars

[0:53:02] Voice 25: is a good start along with page drive as well and we want to keep that going forward along with some

[0:53:10] Voice 25: of our food security projects as well um we feel that there's been all of the due diligence put

[0:53:16] Voice 25: into this project and we're in support we've also sent letters thank

[0:53:22] Voice 7: you very much oh okay i have

[0:53:27] Voice 7: new names on my list um carol glenn yeah i i i think i've got you

[0:53:36] Voice 7: on my list oh

[0:53:37] Voice 8: sorry i'll put

[0:53:38] Voice 7: you put them on

[0:53:39] Voice 7: an article i'm

[0:53:42] Voice 17: carol glenn and i live at page drive which is a neighbor of galley

[0:53:48] Voice 17: And I just wanted to say that the board and the majority, if not all of the residents

[0:53:54] Voice 17: of Page Drive, we're looking forward to having neighbors in Dowie.

[0:53:58] Voice 17: And I just want to reiterate, everyone would like you to finish this and get the project

[0:54:05] Voice 17: started because we are looking forward to our new neighbors.

[0:54:09] Voice 7: Great.

[0:54:09] Voice 7: Thank you very much.

[0:54:12] Voice 7: I'm Diana Lilly

[0:54:20] Voice 19: 174 Morgan Road I lived in a housing co-op in Vancouver for 20 24 years

[0:54:30] Voice 19: and I see this project having is having many of the advantages that I experienced or

[0:54:37] Voice 19: we experienced as a family raising our son in the housing co-op in in Vancouver in that

[0:54:45] Voice 19: knowing your neighbors working on committees with your neighbors having a um a diverse range of

[0:54:55] Voice 19: incomes within the housing project all of those things really build community and provide an

[0:55:02] Voice 19: enormous amount of support and um i i urge you to vote for this project and i i think the work

[0:55:11] Voice 19: that has been done has just been amazing the number of hours that people have put in in

[0:55:18] Voice 19: committees and i'm really excited about this project thank

[0:55:22] Voice 7: you thank you very much uh joanne

[0:55:26] Voice 7: mackin

[0:55:27] Voice 10: i'm

[0:55:28] Voice 7: a couple sorry i can't i can't read uh i can't read jim's handwriting sorry

[0:55:34] Voice 14: i may well in

[0:55:35] Voice 14: that case could you print her last name for me uh m

[0:55:39] Voice 14: -a-c-k-a-y thank you

[0:55:41] Voice 9: m

[0:55:43] Voice 5: -a-c-k-e-y i've got m-o-u-s-e

[0:55:50] Voice 5: thank you chair okay i might get emotional about this so just bear with me

[0:56:00] Voice 5: um my name is joanne mckay and i've lived on the island off and on for 30 years

[0:56:07] Voice 5: and I live at Page Drive, number 16.

[0:56:11] Voice 5: I don't know what the exact address is,

[0:56:15] Voice 5: but I feel very, very concerned

[0:56:20] Voice 5: about not having affordable housing on the island.

[0:56:25] Voice 5: I feel bad for people that need to work on the island,

[0:56:29] Voice 5: need to raise young families.

[0:56:31] Voice 5: We have a beautiful school.

[0:56:33] Voice 5: We have so many things to offer,

[0:56:36] Voice 5: And I just feel like it's becoming elitist and not, you know, even my partner, he's Indigenous.

[0:56:47] Voice 5: We couldn't move back to Galliano because, and he was born here.

[0:56:53] Voice 5: He lived here all his life.

[0:56:55] Voice 5: And he couldn't, we couldn't find a place to live.

[0:56:59] Voice 5: And so fortunately, he put his name in at Page Drive two years ago.

[0:57:04] Voice 5: So we got a call when we were up in the 100 miles that we have a place now at Page Drive, which we're very, very, very fortunate and grateful for.

[0:57:15] Voice 5: But I think we have to think about Indigenous and younger families and different incomes.

[0:57:26] Voice 5: And it's a beautiful island, and I just don't want it to become like a resort island.

[0:57:34] Voice 5: so sorry I get emotional that's it okay thank you very much

[0:57:43] Voice 9: Art Moses thank you

[0:57:56] Voice 24: Art Moses uh 375 Juniper Lane in the north end I uh I strongly support this project and I'm hoping

[0:58:06] Voice 24: that uh trustees move it on to uh second and third reading after this public hearing um it's a

[0:58:13] Voice 24: a it's a very good project and uh i salute the people who worked so hard to uh to bring it about

[0:58:20] Voice 24: a lot of work a lot of frustration no doubt uh but uh it's um in the end it's

[0:58:28] Voice 24: and of course your work is still ongoing because you're you know the looking for funding it's uh

[0:58:36] Voice 24: it's still going to be tough. But good for you for doing it. This project, I think, as you could

[0:58:44] Voice 24: say that this project was the result of the last official community plan review that we had on

[0:58:50] Voice 24: Galliano when the housing committee, I believe, recommended that there be a provision in the OCP

[0:58:59] Voice 24: providing a density bonus on residential land for the purpose of building community,

[0:59:07] Voice 24: low cost community and seniors housing. And that's sort of the genesis for this project.

[0:59:13] Voice 24: It's unfortunate that the original concept of this project was not rental from the beginning.

[0:59:21] Voice 24: It was, you know, the beginning project was not that. It was a more difficult concept to implement.

[0:59:27] Voice 24: And now that it's become a rental, it's really what the community needs badly.

[0:59:34] Voice 24: And the only other point that I would make is that I was struck by the diligence of the water study that was conducted by Mr. Kohut, as he explained it in the community information meeting.

[0:59:51] Voice 24: um my question to him was that the minutes don't record correctly uh what the

[1:00:00] Voice 24: question was to him later on, the word only, it has an unnamed person, it was me, asking

[1:00:08] Voice 24: why was the water test done for only 72 hours? I did not say only. Why was it done for 72

[1:00:16] Voice 24: hours as opposed to an earlier test on the galley property being only 12 hours? And his

[1:00:24] Voice 24: his response was that for any large development you have to do this the government requires

[1:00:29] Voice 24: a 72 and a half hour pump test for something that's going to have a lot of people involved

[1:00:37] Voice 24: a lot of infrastructure and it's unfortunate that the same level of due diligence was not

[1:00:42] Voice 24: conducted or required by the trustees for another a different development not an affordable housing

[1:00:48] Voice 24: housing project but a development a large project for visitor accommodation up in the north end

[1:00:54] Voice 24: where the pump test was a 12-hour pump test based on basically hearsay. I'm going to ask you to

[1:01:03] Voice 7: stick to this public hearing.

[1:01:04] Voice 24: Yes I'm just talking about the superiority of this project and the work

[1:01:10] Voice 24: that was done and contrasting it with work that wasn't done in another project and that's

[1:01:18] Voice 24: unfortunate but i urge that uh i'm very happy that with this with galley going forward and um

[1:01:26] Voice 24: congratulations to the people who have promoted it thank you look

[1:01:31] Voice 7: again is the end of my speaker's

[1:01:33] Voice 7: list

[1:01:33] Voice 9: oh

[1:01:34] Voice 7: i didn't well you

[1:01:36] Voice 2: weren't on my

[1:01:36] Voice 7: list that's why i didn't see it there go ahead

[1:01:38] Voice 9: can i

[1:01:42] Voice 7: allow i think you'll be okay right there go ahead okay

[1:01:46] Voice 6: i want to say that this

[1:01:48] Voice 6: this project this location is superior is good because it's close within walking distance to all

[1:01:55] Voice 6: the amenities you're walking distance from the corner store walking distance to the community

[1:02:01] Voice 6: hall here walking distance to uh the green grocery and very closely walking distance to the school

[1:02:14] Voice 6: And because we may be dealing with people of limited income who can't afford two cars,

[1:02:20] Voice 6: maybe not even one, it's important to have them in a location where they are able to

[1:02:29] Voice 6: get to and from easily.

[1:02:30] Voice 6: And I also wish to thank you for an idealistic vision, which the younger people in the in

[1:02:36] Voice 6: in the affordable housing, I'm inspired to go and help the older people living at Page

[1:02:42] Voice 6: Drive. And like I said, for the older people living at Page Drive, not the younger people,

[1:02:47] Voice 6: things like babysitting, I haven't actually got any plans for this, but I'd like to inspire

[1:02:52] Voice 6: people to continue to have them to do stuff like this. And I also want to add that the

[1:02:58] Voice 6: thing does not go back to the last OCP review. It's actually going back to the 1994 OCP

[1:03:06] Voice 6: me with you which I was around for and that was when the idea of non-profit housing was first

[1:03:13] Voice 6: launched and the original GLCHT was charged in 1997 so that's how long this thing's been

[1:03:23] Voice 6: hanging around you know why it goes and it because it's been hanging around all these decades

[1:03:28] Voice 6: okay thank

[1:03:32] Voice 7: you very much sir uh again that's the end of my speaker's list does anybody

[1:03:38] Voice 7: Anybody else wish to speak to the local trust committee?

[1:03:42] Voice 7: I remind you that if you were wanting to be closing,

[1:03:47] Voice 7: be coming close to the close of the public hearing,

[1:03:49] Voice 7: if you have a written submission you want to give to us,

[1:03:52] Voice 7: please give it to us before I close the hearing.

[1:03:55] Voice 7: So I'll ask once more,

[1:03:56] Voice 7: are there any speakers to this in this public hearing?

[1:04:02] Voice 7: I'm not seeing anyone.

[1:04:03] Voice 7: So I'm gonna ask a second time for any more speakers.

[1:04:07] Voice 7: and then again i am asking a third time are there any more speakers is the final opportunity for you

[1:04:14] Voice 7: to hand in any written submissions to the local trust committee once the hearing is closed no

[1:04:19] Voice 7: additional submissions will be accepted i'm seeing nobody um so i'm going to close the public hearing

[1:04:28] Voice 7: thank you very much for all your commentary uh please be advised that we're now in the post

[1:04:33] Voice 7: public hearing stage of the legislative review of proposed bylaw 280. the galliano local trust

[1:04:38] Voice 7: committee can now no longer receive information pertaining to the proposed bylaw however you can

[1:04:44] Voice 7: still submit any outstanding questions and comments directly to the planner planner smith

[1:04:49] Voice 7: uh the ltc may give further readings to the bylaw and it's on our agenda so we'll if you want to

[1:04:56] Voice 7: know what we do stick around or defeat the bylaw or make minor amendments that do not affect the

[1:05:01] Voice 7: use or density without further notice so with that we'll close the public hearing um and we

[1:05:08] Voice 7: need to retrieve uh planner sorry plan trustee rockefeller from outside uh thank you for all

[1:05:14] Voice 7: of your commentary uh we'll reconvene the local trust committee but maybe we'll just take five

[1:05:19] Voice 7: minutes and bring plan to bring trustee rockefeller back and i think she's across the road

[1:05:28] Voice 8: so

[1:05:28] Voice 7: we're now um

[1:05:29] Voice 8: going

[1:05:32] Voice 7: to uh so welcome back uh we're going to work through the agenda

[1:05:37] Voice 7: and uh the various items on the agenda the first the first item on the agenda after the public

[1:05:43] Voice 7: hearing which is now closed is the local trust committee meetings of minutes dated september 6th

[1:05:50] Voice 7: um just these are there any changes that either you saw or wish to oh and i forgot um we got

[1:05:58] Voice 7: something from

[1:06:00] Voice 10: jazz

[1:06:01] Voice 7: that yes jazz center

[1:06:05] Voice 10: something i'll add that

[1:06:06] Voice 7: it's 8.5 uh pat we we have some

[1:06:09] Voice 7: other minutes that we have to adopt as well but

[1:06:11] Voice 7: it'll be 8.5 i'll come to those in a minute okay

[1:06:14] Voice 7: Okay, they are so there anything from the September six minutes that I saw saw nothing so we'll adopt those by consent. And then we have the public hearing record dated September 6 2022.

[1:06:32] Voice 7: And is there anything from either either trustee related that I'd say nothing so we'll, we'll receive those. There's no resolutions without meeting there's no APC minutes.

[1:06:42] Voice 7: minutes. So the next thing was minutes. I just need to find

[1:06:47] Voice 7: them per email.

[1:06:49] Voice 15: July 26, there's your special meeting for the

[1:06:52] Voice 7: ally

[1:06:52] Voice 15: and then there's your CIM minutes for the draft law.

[1:06:55] Voice 7: Right. This came as a late

[1:07:00] Voice 7: item to us because we forgot to

[1:07:02] Voice 7: adopt them before. Is there any changes to either of those

[1:07:09] Voice 7: minutes for the special meeting of July 26 that you wish to

[1:07:13] Voice 7: nothing um and you said there's a second item there

[1:07:18] Voice 15: is two sets of minutes she said there's

[1:07:20] Voice 15: one for the special meeting that you would trust you over to that with respect to galley

[1:07:25] Voice 15: and there's a second set of minutes that all of you attended the cim i

[1:07:30] Voice 7: see oh i see yes you did

[1:07:32] Voice 7: okay so then are there any amendments to the cim minutes but i just must be which

[1:07:38] Voice 7: again then we'll adopt those both thank you so pat uh those are both that was a july 26

[1:07:45] Voice 7: special meeting and a july 26 uh c community information meeting okay thank you

[1:07:51] Voice 7: okay um

[1:07:55] Voice 7: so the next item on the agenda is business arising from the follow-up action list which

[1:08:01] Voice 7: is on page 21. is there anything you wish to flag planner smith related to the follow-up action list

[1:08:07] Voice 7: any uh questions from either of the trustees related to the follow-up i'm saying nothing

[1:08:13] Voice 7: then we'll receive those we now have um a couple of pieces of correspondence that are on the agenda

[1:08:20] Voice 7: um uh the first one is from mr walkett i'll just um uh comment that his comments were received

[1:08:27] Voice 7: related to another piece of correspondence and indeed uh we i we took action relatively quickly

[1:08:34] Voice 7: quickly or I did I contacted the writer of the letter that he was concerned about and the writer

[1:08:39] Voice 7: of the letter agreed the comments were inappropriate and and with and uh amended his correspondence or

[1:08:46] Voice 7: indicated he was going to I have to say I don't know whether he did or not um uh so that we did

[1:08:52] Voice 7: act on that and we did take his concerns do either of you have any comments or uh anything you wish

[1:08:58] Voice 7: to do with further with that we other than receive that then we have a uh correspondence from uh

[1:09:06] Voice 7: shirley uh activate that or simply just receive it um the next item on the agenda then is would it

[1:09:18] Voice 7: normally be a meeting break what would you like to do because the next item on the agenda you have

[1:09:22] Voice 7: have to leave again for um trustee rockefeller how would you like to see yeah

[1:09:28] Voice 11: okay so why don't

[1:09:31] Voice 7: you step outside we'll take the report on this and we'll find somewhere else after we get on

[1:09:36] Voice 7: in the business a bit more to have a bit of a break there are refreshments over there

[1:09:39] Voice 7: uh thanks very much to trustees rockefeller and wolverton for bringing us in so we're on page 25

[1:09:46] Voice 7: five this is the the um uh follow-up from the public hearing and the consideration of the bylaws

[1:09:54] Voice 7: of uh bylaw 280. so there's a staff report go ahead um planner smith

[1:10:03] Voice 10: thank

[1:10:19] Voice 15: you rogers so this is a post public hearing staff report that the local trust

[1:10:24] Voice 15: committee can choose to consider today after conducting your public hearing or you could

[1:10:31] Voice 15: to consider has a number of recommendations to give bylaw number 280 second and third reading

[1:10:38] Voice 15: as well as bylaw 285 which is the associated housing agreement first second and third reading

[1:10:44] Voice 15: as it's sitting in draft form also recommendations to send both of those bylaws to executive committee

[1:10:51] Voice 15: for their review and approval and also seeking direction from the local trust committee to direct

[1:10:59] Voice 15: you as the chair to execute the housing agreement and associated section 219 covenant once they're

[1:11:07] Voice 15: back from legal counsel and those covenants uh would be signed off prior to uh assuming

[1:11:14] Voice 15: executive committee approval you coming back into fourth week and final adoption just

[1:11:22] Voice 9: leave it there

[1:11:23] Voice 9: All

[1:11:24] Voice 7: right. Trustee Wilberton, do you have any questions for the planner or anything you wish to say?

[1:11:31] Voice 11: No, no questions for the planner. I just want to say this has been a long journey.

[1:11:39] Voice 11: As Andrew pointed out, it started in 1997 with Glitch.

[1:11:45] Voice 11: the uh we do known as which but the galliano land trust and community housing society uh starting to

[1:11:52] Voice 11: to work on this and um so and working for many years um on the site known as galliano green

[1:12:00] Voice 11: so bylaws 233 and 234 were passed in 2017 by the previous ltc to redesignate and rezone this

[1:12:09] Voice 11: property for community housing as a bare land strata of up to 20 lots and each would have

[1:12:16] Voice 11: dwelling possibility of dwelling um this this didn't go ahead for for many reasons um but i

[1:12:23] Voice 11: want to acknowledge the huge amount of work uh done by douglada and tom hennessey and many others

[1:12:29] Voice 11: but in particular they were sort of the face of that project um and you know i think i would say

[1:12:38] Voice 11: that their work provided a foundation for a society and keeping the issue of housing

[1:12:48] Voice 11: in you know in the forefront of our community um the undeveloped plan was transferred to

[1:12:56] Voice 11: the galleon affordable living initiative galley and the proposal developed by galley

[1:13:03] Voice 11: and supported by dozens of letters from community members and and by people speaking here today

[1:13:11] Voice 11: um it's been the subject of a community information hearing september 6th and today's

[1:13:16] Voice 11: public hearing the present proposal carefully and thoroughly developed consists of 20 affordable

[1:13:23] Voice 11: housing units in four buildings and it's a significant reduction in the building footprint

[1:13:30] Voice 11: print and fragmentation of the forest so i want to thank the board of galley uh chair by lisa gopro

[1:13:38] Voice 11: and i want to thank planner smith for all the work that has gone into bringing this forward

[1:13:44] Voice 11: to meet a very important community need sorry

[1:14:01] Voice 14: i've lost the audio okay it's okay

[1:14:03] Voice 7: you didn't lose the audio we're just having a moment oh

[1:14:08] Voice 11: i'm sorry

[1:14:09] Voice 11: I'm sorry, I lost the audio.

[1:14:11] Voice 11: Yeah, I lost the audio.

[1:14:14] Voice 11: But

[1:14:15] Voice 12: I also want to thank the

[1:14:18] Voice 8: community just

[1:14:23] Voice 10: for their thousands of hours of

[1:14:33] Voice 11: work and the dozens of people and for commenting so eloquently on this proposal.

[1:14:40] Voice 11: i'm aware of some of the conditions in which people are living here some of the appalling

[1:14:50] Voice 11: conditions i've seen the places and um i think it's time that people have affordable secure

[1:14:59] Voice 11: long-term housing those are my comments okay

[1:15:05] Voice 7: i assume you'll make some uh motions but perhaps

[1:15:08] Voice 7: i'll just speak briefly thank you for those comments um i wanted to start by saying how

[1:15:17] Voice 7: how much I appreciate that as the chair,

[1:15:22] Voice 7: the thoroughness and professionalism,

[1:15:25] Voice 7: professional nature of the application that we received.

[1:15:29] Voice 7: This application came in

[1:15:33] Voice 7: with, I wouldn't say all of the I's dotted and all the T's,

[1:15:37] Voice 7: but a long way down the road.

[1:15:40] Voice 7: It we started with a series of reports

[1:15:43] Voice 7: that helped us to clarify where we go.

[1:15:46] Voice 7: go. The work that's been done on this has been remarkable. So thank you very much to all the

[1:15:52] Voice 7: people looking at some of you that I know have been involved in this. It's been a very, a very

[1:15:58] Voice 7: positive process from my point of view. I also want to thank the people of Galliano for your

[1:16:04] Voice 7: commentary. I must admit that some of the letters I read really moved me as people described their

[1:16:12] Voice 7: challenges with living on this island we got one this morning that almost we're almost moving to

[1:16:18] Voice 7: tears um because it was so provocative of what the issues are here um this is a um a great community

[1:16:27] Voice 7: and i was struck today by the fact of how many neighbors have supported this application how

[1:16:33] Voice 7: many people that actually were there and i was struck by the commentary uh i'm sorry i can't

[1:16:39] Voice 7: tell you exactly who it was someone who said um you know what and if we have to give up something

[1:16:44] Voice 7: uh to make this happen uh we're prepared to do that too we don't think we will have to but if

[1:16:50] Voice 7: we have to uh we're prepared to do that too that is a that is a a very positive reflection on the

[1:16:59] Voice 7: the what this community brings to the table with this application um i don't have a long list of

[1:17:07] Voice 7: reasons like i did for previous applications because uh it seems to me that this but while

[1:17:13] Voice 7: there are you know a couple of concerns being raised by a couple of neighbors and that's

[1:17:17] Voice 7: fair enough i have no issues with that uh this is a an application that is um strongly supported by

[1:17:23] Voice 7: the community and one whose time has certainly uh probably well past due and it's time it occurred

[1:17:31] Voice 7: so i'll be supporting all of the recommendations of planner smith and i'm going to give you the

[1:17:35] Voice 7: the opportunity to make those motions and i'll be i'll be seconding and voting in favor of all

[1:17:42] Voice 7: i

[1:17:43] Voice 11: would recommend that the galliano island local trust committee proposed bylaw number 280 cited

[1:17:49] Voice 11: as galliano island land use bylaw number 127 1999 amendment number three 2021 be read for a second

[1:17:57] Voice 11: time and

[1:17:57] Voice 7: i'll second that wish to discuss speak to a name further then i'll call the vote and that

[1:18:03] Voice 7: That passes unanimously, go ahead.

[1:18:05] Voice 11: That the Galliano Island Local Trust Committee

[1:18:07] Voice 11: proposed bylaw number 280,

[1:18:09] Voice 11: cited as Galliano Island land use bylaw number 127, 1999,

[1:18:14] Voice 11: amendment number 3, 2021, be read for a third time.

[1:18:18] Voice 7: And I'll second that motion.

[1:18:20] Voice 7: I'll call the vote.

[1:18:21] Voice 7: That passes unanimously.

[1:18:23] Voice 11: That the Galliano Island Local Trust Committee

[1:18:25] Voice 11: proposed bylaw number 285,

[1:18:27] Voice 11: cited as Galliano Island Housing Agreement bylaw number 285,

[1:18:32] Voice 11: 2022 be read for a first time and

[1:18:34] Voice 7: i'll second that motions and call the vote passes unanimously

[1:18:38] Voice 11: that the galliano island local trust committee proposed bylaw number 285 cited as galliano

[1:18:44] Voice 11: island housing agreement bylaw number 285 2021 be read for a second time and

[1:18:50] Voice 7: i'll second that

[1:18:51] Voice 7: motion and call the vote that passes unanimously that

[1:18:54] Voice 11: the galliano island local trust committee

[1:18:56] Voice 11: proposed bylaw number 285

[1:18:57] Voice 11: cited as Galliano Island

[1:18:59] Voice 11: Housing Agreement bylaw number

[1:19:01] Voice 11: 285-2021 be

[1:19:04] Voice 11: read for a third time.

[1:19:05] Voice 7: I'll second that

[1:19:05] Voice 7: motion and call the vote. That passes unanimously.

[1:19:08] Voice 11: That the Galliano Island

[1:19:09] Voice 11: Local Trust Committee proposed bylaws

[1:19:11] Voice 11: number 280 and number 285

[1:19:14] Voice 11: be forwarded to the Secretary

[1:19:15] Voice 11: of the Island's Trust for Executive

[1:19:17] Voice 11: Committee approval. I'll

[1:19:19] Voice 7: second that. That passes

[1:19:22] Voice 7: unanimously.

[1:19:22] Voice 11: That the Galliano

[1:19:24] Voice 11: ohio local trust committee accept two covenants under section 219 of the land title act from the

[1:19:29] Voice 11: registered owner of block one district lot three galiano island couch and district plan 29196

[1:19:36] Voice 11: and designate designate the chair of the local trust committee to sign the two covenants

[1:19:41] Voice 11: gl rz 2021.1

[1:19:45] Voice 7: i'll second that and i'll just say that if i have the opportunity to do that before

[1:19:50] Voice 7: before my term is up, I'll be very pleased to do so.

[1:19:53] Voice 7: So I'll call the vote.

[1:19:55] Voice 11: That the Galliano Island Local Trust Committee

[1:19:57] Voice 11: accept a housing agreement under Section 219

[1:20:00] Voice 11: of the land title act from the registered owner

[1:20:02] Voice 11: of Block 1, District Block 3,

[1:20:04] Voice 11: Galliano Island Couch and District Plan 29196

[1:20:08] Voice 11: and designate the chair of the Local Trust Committee

[1:20:10] Voice 11: to sign the housing agreement for DLRZ 2021.1.

[1:20:16] Voice 11: And

[1:20:16] Voice 7: I'll second that and call the vote.

[1:20:18] Voice 7: The house is unanimously.

[1:20:19] Voice 7: so that's the motions they will come to executive committee um i'm guessing before the end of this

[1:20:26] Voice 7: term because we have two more executive committee meetings so there's no reason wouldn't get if it

[1:20:31] Voice 7: didn't get next week it'll get to the one after that which is on the 19th um and it's on the

[1:20:37] Voice 15: agenda for the fifth there

[1:20:38] Voice 7: you go it's on the agenda for the fifth so um which is a which is

[1:20:42] Voice 7: an interesting question is can we we can adopt it by resolution without needing cash so we can

[1:20:48] Voice 7: actually that

[1:20:49] Voice 15: was my next question given those those resolutions and that direction staff i

[1:20:58] Voice 15: will proceed with executive committee approval next week working on the vc form right now

[1:21:04] Voice 15: and the covenants have all been sent to the lawyers there's just a final little bit of

[1:21:11] Voice 15: cleanup going on but the covenants are being sent to the lawyers for preparing for signatures for

[1:21:16] Voice 15: execution uh one question i have for you is well potentially you have another meeting in november

[1:21:24] Voice 15: with trust council now moving so you could

[1:21:28] Voice 1: either consider adoption

[1:21:29] Voice 15: there if you want to do a public

[1:21:31] Voice 15: meeting or you could adopt by resolution or you could schedule a special do

[1:21:39] Voice 7: you have a preference

[1:21:40] Voice 7: this trustee uh

[1:21:41] Voice 11: i'm fine with their resolution without meeting because i i know that there's

[1:21:45] some confusion about the dates in november uh so i i don't believe there's anything that is

[1:21:55] Voice 11: controversial that would that would require a public meeting i mean i think this has covered

[1:22:01] Voice 11: all of them what we need to cover and

[1:22:03] Voice 7: i'll just say i can talk to you about this offline

[1:22:05] Voice 7: if the covenants are in at the young are normal lawyers in vancouver it's always easier for me

[1:22:11] Voice 7: to sign the covenants there rather than have to try to cover it for

[1:22:16] Voice 15: you timing for that you may

[1:22:18] Voice 15: want to pass a resolution right now that we direct staff to initiate a resolution without meeting

[1:22:25] Voice 15: following executive committee approval

[1:22:41] Voice 9: to deal with this matter to

[1:22:44] Voice 7: to deal with adoption of bylaws 280 and 285 following the

[1:22:48] Voice 11: approval of the executive committee

[1:22:50] Voice 7: okay let's just see if pat got that so

[1:22:53] Voice 7: can you hear all this back

[1:22:55] Voice 14: kind of okay so

[1:22:59] Voice 14: the motion was to request that to

[1:23:02] Voice 7: schedule a resolute an RWM

[1:23:04] Voice 7: resolution without meeting yes for adoption of by

[1:23:07] Voice 7: laws 280 and 285 after a different and after the they are approved by the

[1:23:17] Voice 7: executive committee

[1:23:18] Voice 9: to initiate the schedule.

[1:23:21] Voice 7: Sorry, skip. Sorry,

[1:23:24] Voice 7: initiate not schedule. Right.

[1:23:25] Voice 14: Okay, so direct staff to initiate resolution of the

[1:23:29] Voice 14: meeting for adoption of bylaws 280 and 285. If approved by

[1:23:36] Voice 14: executive committee. Sure. Is that?

[1:23:39] Voice 14: Yes. And I

[1:23:40] Voice 7: actually, I always prefer the word request rather

[1:23:44] Voice 7: rather than direct.

[1:23:45] Voice 14: Okay, requests.

[1:23:49] Voice 14: Okay, for adoption of bylaws 280 and 285,

[1:23:53] Voice 14: if approved by executive committee?

[1:23:55] Voice 14: Correct.

[1:23:58] Voice 10: Okay.

[1:23:59] Voice 10: So that's been moved.

[1:24:00] Voice 7: I'll second that.

[1:24:01] Voice 7: That's all the vote.

[1:24:01] Voice 7: Thank you very much.

[1:24:02] Voice 7: And I would be remiss to say I do not thank you,

[1:24:07] Voice 7: Planker-Smith, and the staff,

[1:24:09] Voice 7: because I know you work very closely with the applicant

[1:24:13] Voice 7: on a number of issues,

[1:24:14] Voice 7: including the housing agreement and and the section 219 covenant and i think we're in a

[1:24:20] Voice 7: good place because of all that work so thanks very much so congratulations to the community

[1:24:25] Voice 7: this is uh hopefully another big step forward for this community i'm going to suggest we take a

[1:24:31] Voice 7: break um you can have some some uh um some refreshments over there i'll just remind you

[1:24:40] Voice 7: that even though we're it's sort of a bit we are post-public hearing so probably best not to speak

[1:24:46] Voice 7: to us about the the details of but the two bylaws until it's documented at which point you can

[1:24:52] Voice 7: talk all you want so uh so thanks very much and uh we'll we'll step down for 15 minutes now we

[1:24:59] Voice 7: resume the meeting uh at um 2 20 uh pm with the next item on the agenda which you'll be okay

[1:25:09] Voice 7: Okay, thanks very much.

[1:25:13] Voice 7: We have Eleni, I should know that by now, Gibson with us from Wiser Projects.

[1:25:21] Voice 7: Hi, Eleni.

[1:25:24] Voice 7: Pat's here, Brad Smith's here.

[1:25:26] Voice 7: And so we're going to move on to the next item on the agenda, which is Giggers.

[1:25:35] Voice 7: And there's a staff report.

[1:25:37] Voice 7: That's why Trustee Wilberton is out of the room.

[1:25:42] Voice 7: She's recused from that matter.

[1:25:44] Voice 7: There's a staff report starting at page 44.

[1:25:48] Voice 7: And if I could turn it over to Planner Smith, there's more business to do, I guess, related

[1:25:55] Voice 7: to this.

[1:25:56] Voice 7: Go ahead.

[1:25:56] Voice 7: Thank

[1:25:56] Voice 15: you, Chair Rogers.

[1:25:57] Voice 15: So just a brief staff report here in front of you, one with two recommendations for you

[1:26:02] Voice 15: to direct staff or request that staff work with the applicant

[1:26:08] Voice 15: on executing the Section 219

[1:26:09] Voice 15: and Associated Housing Agreement for GIGRs.

[1:26:13] Voice 15: And so you have the power to review the signature

[1:26:16] Voice 15: on behalf of the LTC with those resolutions passed.

[1:26:21] Voice 15: And then there's also a bit of staff analysis

[1:26:24] Voice 15: on the question that Trustee Rockefeller raised in July

[1:26:29] Voice 15: with respect to the potential for the Galliano Club and the local trust community to consider

[1:26:36] Voice 15: a separate covenant that would restrict any further development on the remainder parcel

[1:26:43] Voice 15: following subdivision. It's staff's view that for the reasons given in the staff report

[1:26:51] Voice 15: that that covenant is probably not necessary. You're already well protected with the existing

[1:26:57] Voice 15: there. And of course, you would have to go through another rezoning process to do any further kind of similar housing development on the land. And ultimately, future local trust committee could rezone or amend any kind of covenants, you know, anyway.

[1:27:18] Voice 15: anyway so uh this the advice of staff is that uh you just leave it the way it is and uh the

[1:27:28] Voice 15: galliano house club has offered to uh allow staff to review and comment on the proposed

[1:27:35] Voice 15: amendments that they are making with their other covenant holders where they are seeking to

[1:27:43] Voice 15: make an amendment to restrict any other future development for this time in the remainder of

[1:27:49] Voice 15: course and we have lenny on the line here uh so we're just working on different aspects of

[1:27:57] Voice 15: the covenant still uh but those are largely just process driven as with respect to

[1:28:05] Voice 15: uh the galliano club signing uh and how the wording of the covenant works with respect to

[1:28:11] Voice 15: to when the land is transferred,

[1:28:15] Voice 15: but the substance of the covenants

[1:28:17] Voice 15: and all the conditions changes being considered.

[1:28:20] Voice 15: So if you have any questions currently,

[1:28:22] Voice 15: you can speak to that part of the process.

[1:28:25] Voice 7: Sorry, when you talk about amendments,

[1:28:28] Voice 7: you're talking about the covenant between the Galleon.

[1:28:33] Voice 7: Yeah,

[1:28:34] Voice 15: it jumps around there.

[1:28:35] Voice 15: So not that, so-

[1:28:36] Voice 15: Not

[1:28:37] Voice 7: our covenant, but the covenant.

[1:28:38] Voice 7: Your covenant. Oh, our covenant.

[1:28:39] Voice 15: So, closing off on the question of whether a separate covenant is needed, the suggestion is no, and staff will work with the Galeano Club and the Galeano Conservancy on ensuring the wording further restricts development in that third-party covenant.

[1:29:03] Voice 15: Now, a new topic, the covenant, the Section 219 covenant.

[1:29:07] Voice 15: So the housing agreement is structured as such so that the local trust committee, the Galliano Club and the Housing Society are named as signatories with respect to the covenant.

[1:29:20] Voice 15: It's more appropriate to only have the property owner sign the covenants along with the local trust committee.

[1:29:28] Voice 15: And so we are just ensuring that the Galliano Club is okay with being the only signatory.

[1:29:35] Voice 15: And so what would happen when subdivision occurs, the covenants carry forward with the lands.

[1:29:44] Voice 15: And so you would have that on title of both the new parcel and the remainder parcel.

[1:29:50] Voice 15: and then the Galliano Club would need to seek to discharge the covenant of the remainder.

[1:29:57] Voice 15: Right.

[1:29:58] Voice 7: That's what I recall.

[1:30:00] Voice 7: the process was going to be and some questions from trust you rockefeller um

[1:30:04] Voice 12: i didn't have

[1:30:05] Voice 12: questions until i saw the email from the lady i'm just not quite like is it wise to sign off

[1:30:11] Voice 12: so i

[1:30:14] Voice 15: would say that today you're just giving direction to or chair rogers to sign uh you're

[1:30:20] Voice 15: not actually signing up for the covenant itself and so the changes could be vetted to both of

[1:30:26] Voice 15: you or to chair rogers if there are any major concerns then he could just not sign it so he's

[1:30:33] Voice 15: not bound to sign it by this uh resolution uh but what i can assure the local trust committee

[1:30:38] Voice 15: is that the changes that are being considered aren't to the body of the covenant they're really

[1:30:43] Voice 15: just to reflect uh like for example right now it speaks to on the lands

[1:30:49] Voice 15: only this can occur

[1:30:50] Voice 15: and the galliano club is has expressed concern for example that it may limit their maintenance

[1:30:55] Voice 15: that's forestry maintenance activities uh in the future other remainders so we're just looking at

[1:31:00] Voice 15: some minor weed wording tweaks to ensure that those concerns are and

[1:31:07] Voice 11: when you say remainder

[1:31:08] Voice 11: uh it's like that strip that was identified as yeah

[1:31:12] Voice 15: so the remainder like when it's subdivided

[1:31:15] Voice 15: uh they will create the five acre lot and the rest of the lot becomes the remainder lot

[1:31:22] Voice 15: so that's what remains out to the center so the

[1:31:25] Voice 7: more large proportion of the remainder

[1:31:27] Voice 7: of the forest

[1:31:28] Voice 15: heritage for the

[1:31:29] Voice 16: whole heritage right

[1:31:30] Voice 15: right becomes the remaining one so that's

[1:31:32] Voice 16: the spot that was

[1:31:33] Voice 16: identified as right because you're taking that spot out essentially making

[1:31:38] Voice 16: that was the entire heritage for them and that's the highway script right so the

[1:31:41] Voice 15: five acres is

[1:31:42] Voice 15: the new lot a or whatever right and we'll use

[1:31:44] Voice 15: the entire remainder okay

[1:31:47] Voice 11: that's perfect so so

[1:31:49] Voice 7: So my only consideration of all this is that,

[1:31:51] Voice 7: and I guess you can speak to this as,

[1:31:53] Voice 7: is as what Trustee Rockefeller says is I'm fine

[1:31:59] Voice 7: to have authorized me to sign it,

[1:32:02] Voice 7: but I want to make sure that it was run,

[1:32:06] Voice 7: any amendments were run by Trustee Rockefeller

[1:32:08] Voice 7: as well as myself.

[1:32:09] Voice 7: I don't want the onus of only being the one to review it.

[1:32:14] Voice 7: So I'd like to know that it's going to be run,

[1:32:16] Voice 7: run you know approved by and any considerations given by trustee so you'll do that when when the

[1:32:23] Voice 7: amendments are finalized

[1:32:24] Voice 15: i can yes i would certainly bet it's both of you right

[1:32:27] Voice 7: and i

[1:32:28] Voice 15: guess perhaps then at that point if she has concerns you could well

[1:32:32] Voice 7: you can flag them for

[1:32:33] Voice 7: me and i just won't we won't act on the um on the uh a guy

[1:32:39] Voice 15: we have to do

[1:32:40] Voice 7: something like have a

[1:32:41] Voice 7: special meeting scheduled

[1:32:41] Voice 15: special meeting to talk which

[1:32:43] Voice 7: we can make changes

[1:32:48] Voice 15: well we

[1:32:49] Voice 7: are post-public hearing i'm trying to figure out but i guess

[1:32:52] Voice 7: whether she can speak to her or not um it's a little more process

[1:32:56] Voice 7: i thought

[1:32:57] Voice 12: we could speak about the covenant and housing agreement after no

[1:33:00] Voice 7: that was the whole um

[1:33:02] Voice 7: that arose on uh gabriel and then the direction we got was that you can't that we wouldn't allow

[1:33:09] Voice 7: allow people to speak to the i

[1:33:11] Voice 15: would say there's there's not that much more to add right from what

[1:33:15] Voice 15: and

[1:33:15] Voice 7: she's nodding i see that so yeah

[1:33:17] Voice 15: i mean you can work it

[1:33:18] Voice 7: out with elaine i

[1:33:19] Voice 15: don't have any

[1:33:19] Voice 7: questions for her so

[1:33:20] Voice 15: what i think where it is that is that they're meeting with the galliano

[1:33:24] Voice 15: their lawyers and galliano club lawyers are meeting this week to talk about what potential

[1:33:29] Voice 15: amendments might occur uh i will uh receive those amendments and have our legal counsel review them

[1:33:36] Voice 15: and to address any concerns following that i will get it to both of you and you can review them and

[1:33:42] Voice 15: if you have concerns or issues that you need to then talk about we will need to then schedule

[1:33:47] Voice 15: a public meeting

[1:33:48] Voice 7: okay so and that's about the the covenant the third party covenant but i'm also

[1:33:53] Voice 7: thinking of the section 219 covenant uh

[1:33:56] Voice 15: that was only about the 219 oh okay

[1:33:58] Voice 15: the third party

[1:33:59] Voice 15: covenant i will just work with the galleon i see okay yeah

[1:34:02] Voice 12: it was good i

[1:34:02] Voice 12: do have a motion prepared

[1:34:04] Voice 12: like that you suggested in the package that about the third party covenant

[1:34:10] Voice 12: in the page um 44 or no at the bottom here 45 just that ltc could consider passing resolutions

[1:34:22] Voice 12: directly oh

[1:34:23] Voice 10: yes sorry yeah yeah

[1:34:25] Voice 12: i just did prepare that just because

[1:34:26] Voice 11: uh anyways

[1:34:27] Voice 11: so yep that looks scared me

[1:34:32] Voice 7: there's

[1:34:33] Voice 2: a lot going on in this head okay

[1:34:39] Voice 7: i'm fine i'm comfortable with these two motions if you are because the rock fellows as long as

[1:34:43] Voice 7: i understand that that whatever the amendments are to the facts in our

[1:34:47] Voice 7: pocket just vetted by

[1:34:49] Voice 7: both you and i and

[1:34:50] Voice 7: that planner smith advises me that it's all good yeah all

[1:34:54] Voice 7: this does is give me

[1:34:55] Voice 7: the authority to sign that okay i

[1:34:57] Voice 16: just wanted to make sure that it was

[1:34:58] Voice 11: that i didn't know if it was

[1:35:00] Voice 11: too hard or if it's authorized right so i've also come forward with the motion okay

[1:35:04] Voice 7: so what why don't

[1:35:05] Voice 7: i leave it to you to make the motion okay

[1:35:07] Voice 11: i'll move that again under section 219 of the montano

[1:35:12] Voice 11: act from the registered owner of block 1 district blocks 30 and 31 galena island couch and district

[1:35:17] Voice 11: district plan vip 76996 accept that plan that work and plan vip 76997 and designate the chair

[1:35:31] Voice 11: i'll

[1:35:31] Voice 7: second that um any further discussion no no we

[1:35:35] Voice 12: don't have to include that it's getting vetted

[1:35:36] Voice 11: by us again right no

[1:35:38] Voice 7: the planner will make sure that occurs okay i mean and i'll i'll just say

[1:35:43] Voice 7: for the record i'll make sure before i sign anything that's going to happen okay so that

[1:35:49] Voice 7: passes unanimously um

[1:35:51] Voice 11: i'm going to be going on the local trust committee except the draft has

[1:35:54] Voice 11: an agreement from the registered owner of lot one district about 30 and 31 gallon island couch and

[1:35:59] Voice 11: district plan vip 76996 except that part can be planned vip 76997 and designate the chair of the

[1:36:05] Voice 11: little just for me to sign the housing gl or the 2019 that's the one

[1:36:09] Voice 7: i'll second that and uh call

[1:36:11] Voice 7: the vote oh that passes unanimously now you have a second motion and you're going to have to i'm

[1:36:17] Voice 7: going to move the mic closer here

[1:36:19] Voice 12: so pat

[1:36:24] Voice 7: can hear and write it down okay go ahead okay

[1:36:27] Voice 12: i move with

[1:36:29] Voice 12: the galliano island local trust committee direct staff to engage with third party covenant holders

[1:36:35] Voice 12: in the development and review of covenant amendments to the remainder lot and bring

[1:36:41] Voice 12: these to the ltc for comment okay

[1:36:47] Voice 7: pat how much of that did you get i

[1:36:50] Voice 14: got to direct staff to

[1:36:51] Voice 14: engage with the third party covenant

[1:36:54] Voice 7: covenant

[1:36:55] Voice 14: yeah

[1:36:56] Voice 7: holder holder

[1:36:58] Voice 14: keep going in

[1:37:00] Voice 12: the development

[1:37:00] Voice 12: and review in

[1:37:03] Voice 14: the development and review of

[1:37:05] Voice 12: covenant amendments of

[1:37:08] Voice 14: covenant amendments yes

[1:37:12] Voice 14: to

[1:37:13] Voice 12: the remainder lot to the

[1:37:15] Voice 7: remainder lot remainder

[1:37:19] Voice 14: lot yes and

[1:37:21] Voice 12: bring these to the ltc

[1:37:23] Voice 12: for comment okay

[1:37:30] Voice 14: see for comment thank you thank you so

[1:37:33] Voice 7: that's been moved i'll second that uh any

[1:37:35] Voice 7: further discussion okay call the vote that passes unanimously is there anything more on this

[1:37:40] Voice 7: particular item i just

[1:37:42] Voice 15: want to talk about timing of uh potential fourth reading adoption still in

[1:37:49] Voice 15: the minister's office uh assuming we get it back from the minister's office which we are hopeful

[1:37:56] Voice 15: and working for pressing them to do but they are still reviewing it uh let me just talk about with

[1:38:04] Voice 15: galley what would your preferred approach be to adopt the two bylaws in this case plus the

[1:38:12] Voice 15: housing agreement bylaw so you could give them a fourth reading by rwm or you could consider

[1:38:19] Voice 15: scheduling a special one to give them an adoption um

[1:38:24] Voice 7: i'm wondering about scheduling a special

[1:38:29] Voice 7: meeting i'll be frank

[1:38:31] Voice 7: i guess the question is going to be whether it comes back from the minister

[1:38:34] Voice 7: or not i'm just being frank here the potential exists that both of the trustees elected

[1:38:42] Voice 7: in october 15th would have to recuse themselves from that matter and that's problematic yeah

[1:38:48] Voice 15: i'm

[1:38:49] Voice 15: i'm talking within this term that's

[1:38:54] Voice 7: what i mean that's why it's important that's why i i think

[1:38:56] Voice 7: there is some yeah some efficacy to getting

[1:39:00] Voice 7: it done this

[1:39:00] Voice 15: term the ministry understands that but

[1:39:02] Voice 7: the

[1:39:02] Voice 15: ministry is also of their own so yeah we can only move them as quickly what

[1:39:10] Voice 7: would you like to

[1:39:11] Voice 7: do would you like to have a special meeting uh maybe we can combine the two right if it's just

[1:39:15] Voice 16: fourth reading we could do rw you

[1:39:18] Voice 7: can do it because i

[1:39:19] Voice 16: think that i mean giggers is ahead

[1:39:21] Voice 16: of galley so i don't think we can bet that they will be galley

[1:39:24] Voice 15: won't need it oh we'll need

[1:39:27] Voice 16: ministerial approval oh okay because

[1:39:29] Voice 15: there's no cpa there's no cpa it goes to

[1:39:31] Voice 16: show how much i know

[1:39:32] Voice 16: so i

[1:39:36] Voice 15: would suggest if you're open to rwm which is the easiest way for you to adopt that you

[1:39:42] Voice 15: can pass a similar resolution chair rogers to what you just passed for gala which directs that to

[1:39:50] Voice 15: probably has the wording

[1:39:51] Voice 9: had

[1:39:51] Voice 6: to initiate

[1:40:02] Voice 15: an rdm to give bylaws 274 276 and 277 for three in adoption following uh

[1:40:11] Voice 15: executive committee approval i think she said uh if you receive the wording

[1:40:20] Voice 7: for that yes but

[1:40:21] Voice 7: I remember the wording from it would have been back on the galley matter.

[1:40:28] Voice 14: Hi. Okay, me. Yes. Oh, okay. To initiate to direct staff to initiate a resolution

[1:40:38] Voice 14: without meeting. I just didn't catch the the numbering for the

[1:40:43] Voice 7: wallet, we can put the bylaws in. But do you have the wording from the earlier? Yes.

[1:40:48] Voice 14: yes and

[1:40:50] Voice 7: so bylaws uh help me out here plan smith

[1:40:55] Voice 15: 274 276 and 277

[1:40:58] Voice 7: 274 76 and 77 okay

[1:41:02] Voice 14: and

[1:41:02] Voice 7: what was the rest of it um

[1:41:07] Voice 14: as you said to put in as the previous motion

[1:41:10] Voice 14: following executive committee approval actually

[1:41:14] Voice 7: that's already occurred okay

[1:41:17] Voice 15: Okay.

[1:41:18] Voice 15: Following ministerial approval, I guess, of bylaws 276.

[1:41:26] Voice 7: Following ministerial approval of bylaws 276.

[1:41:31] Voice 14: Okay.

[1:41:37] Voice 14: And ministerial approval is not required for 274 or 277?

[1:41:43] Voice 7: No.

[1:41:44] Voice 10: Okay.

[1:41:47] Voice 14: Okay.

[1:41:48] Voice 7: And I guess my sense of my preferred way of proceeding,

[1:41:54] Voice 7: but my sense would be is if there's a you can initiate it but if there's an issue that arises

[1:42:00] Voice 7: from the ministerial approval we we just won't approve the art everywhere and i

[1:42:05] Voice 15: think it's

[1:42:06] Voice 15: worried that you would only be able to proceed if they approve it right come back and say that

[1:42:13] Voice 15: they don't approve it then you're in discussion okay yeah

[1:42:19] Voice 12: that sounds good okay so that motion

[1:42:21] Voice 12: motion

[1:42:21] Voice 7: has been made uh by trustee rockefeller and i'll second that motion and uh we'll call vote

[1:42:27] Voice 7: okay um okay well thank you very much for that and uh so that may occur um anything further related

[1:42:39] Voice 7: to the giggers matter anything further from you trust your no okay then we'll get jane she's up

[1:42:47] Voice 7: here and we're going to move on to uh 13.3 on the agenda which is the uh gailer matter and i see

[1:42:57] Voice 7: there's some mr gaylord's here so i'm going to let him into the meeting

[1:43:02] Voice 15: there's the consultants

[1:43:07] Voice 15: yes i

[1:43:09] Voice 7: see i i recognize the three people over here

[1:43:12] Voice 7: here. So, Mr. Gaylor is the consultant. Okay, so Mr. Gaylor, if you wish to join us, you're

[1:43:28] Voice 7: now in the meeting and you can turn unmute yourself, you can turn the camera off if you

[1:43:33] Voice 7: wish. As always with these matters, the applicants, the three individuals here with us and their

[1:43:43] Voice 7: their consultant are able, are invited to speak to us

[1:43:48] Voice 7: about the application staff memo.

[1:43:52] Voice 7: And after we've heard the staff report

[1:43:54] Voice 7: and had any questions, I'll turn to you

[1:43:56] Voice 7: to see if there's anybody that wishes to speak.

[1:43:59] Voice 7: So over to you, Planner Smith.

[1:44:02] Voice 9: So it's just a

[1:44:03] Voice 15: brief summary of the application itself

[1:44:09] Voice 15: and the current status of it.

[1:44:23] Voice 15: You had some discussion around DL86, and you, Chair Rogers, asked that instead of having

[1:44:32] Voice 15: that discussion on the fly, that you bring it back to the local trust committee with

[1:44:36] Voice 15: this staff member you have before you today to have a formal discussion of the status

[1:44:42] Voice 15: of DL86 and what next steps that we need to be going forward.

[1:44:48] Voice 15: You did have the agenda and the public trust of the applicants they asked you to refer to today, and that's where we're at now.

[1:44:57] Voice 7: Okay.

[1:45:00] Voice 9: Questions on the staff report from the trustees?

[1:45:03] Voice 9: Do you have any questions? No, I don't mind.

[1:45:07] Voice 7: So, and what's the, so is there a recommendation or?

[1:45:11] Voice 7: it's just a staff

[1:45:12] Voice 15: memo that you you asked for just to provide uh a bit of uh background on

[1:45:19] Voice 15: the application so that you have that fresh lens and uh and that it formally is only okay

[1:45:28] Voice 7: um okay so here we are and yeah go ahead trustee rockefeller and we may want to let the applicant

[1:45:38] Voice 16: I don't know who's

[1:45:44] Voice 7: speaking on behalf of Mr. Gaylor or yeah okay thank you Mr. Gaylor over

[1:45:48] Voice 7: to you you'd like to comment on related to the staff memo and a message to the trustees

[1:45:56] Voice 13: sure thing thank you chairman Rogers and good afternoon commission members

[1:46:00] Voice 13: members. And thanks Planner Smith for the context. Don't have a whole lot to say in this case. I

[1:46:08] Voice 13: believe the owners Wayne and Corinne are in attendance as well. Maybe just a few notes here.

[1:46:15] Voice 13: So my clients recently bought the property about a year and a half ago with an understanding that

[1:46:19] Voice 13: they could follow the rezoning precedent established by DL79 and be subject to the

[1:46:25] Voice 13: current ocp at that time around about a year ago uh just over a year ago we worked with staff to

[1:46:33] Voice 13: compile our application to ensure that it was supportable from a staff perspective and again

[1:46:38] Voice 13: was consistent with some previously approved similar rezoning applications

[1:46:43] Voice 13: december 2021 we received authorization from the ltc to proceed uh providing those additional

[1:46:53] Voice 13: technical information as part of the zoning application um it's now evident given the fate

[1:46:57] Voice 13: of dl85 that we need to rethink our application and i think we've heard very very clearly some

[1:47:03] Voice 13: of the concerns particularly expressed by by member rockefeller um as they relate to the

[1:47:10] Voice 13: heritage forest policies i think our 75 25 proposed split isn't necessarily um what the

[1:47:18] Voice 13: the LTC had in mind. So I would respectfully ask that our application be continued to be

[1:47:25] Voice 13: held in advance so I can work with my clients and the LTC to frame an application that best

[1:47:30] Voice 13: aligns with those heritage forest policies. So that's our appeal. I can tell you that my

[1:47:39] Voice 13: clients are very keen to work proactively with the commission to ensure that the project

[1:47:44] Voice 13: maximizes public benefit so um maybe i'll leave it there but thank you okay thank you mr killer

[1:47:50] Voice 13: does anybody uh wish

[1:47:51] Voice 7: to speak as well you don't have to i'm just asking you if you want i wanted

[1:47:58] Voice 7: to give you the opportunity if you wish to say anything and i'm sorry i don't know your i know

[1:48:01] Voice 7: i should know your names but i don't but anyway if you don't want to that's fine you heard from

[1:48:06] Voice 7: mr gaylord so trustee rockefeller did you have what did you want to say um

[1:48:10] Voice 11: just i'm happy to

[1:48:12] Voice 11: make a motion for the applicant request to put in advance i have a motion

[1:48:17] Voice 11: prepared okay yeah um i

[1:48:19] Voice 11: do believe the applicants are wanting to work towards an application that better reflects the

[1:48:24] Voice 11: ocp um and so i would move that the galliano island local trust committee but application gl

[1:48:30] Voice 11: are said 2021 decimal two gaylor in advance that's

[1:48:36] Voice 9: been second you wish to speak your motion

[1:48:38] Voice 9: any further um

[1:48:42] Voice 9: we've

[1:48:42] Voice 11: had uh correspondence from the updates and outlining what they're what they're working on

[1:48:50] Voice 9: uh no

[1:48:50] Voice 9: it's all fine okay

[1:48:51] Voice 7: i i just wanted to say this but about um we got some lengthy

[1:48:58] Voice 7: correspondence from another member of the public um mr keifer about the history of some of these

[1:49:04] Voice 7: things so i went back and read all the amendments and it's i think it's one of those scenarios that

[1:49:08] Voice 7: rise that we always say what happens before is not necessarily a precedent for the next thing

[1:49:15] Voice 7: that comes along but people sometimes treat it like that and we always say well this isn't

[1:49:20] Voice 7: necessarily a precedent until you build it in unless you build something specifically

[1:49:24] Voice 7: in

[1:49:25] Voice 9: each

[1:49:26] Voice 7: of the other regions very particularly

[1:49:28] Voice 9: um

[1:49:31] Voice 7: they're spelled out in the in the bylaws that way

[1:49:35] Voice 7: This is a this is a specific rezoning or a site specific so and I know that people go oh well it happened there there's a precedent now but it really isn't so it's a bit of a bit of a lesson.

[1:49:50] Voice 7: lesson. Anyway, I'm quite prepared to support the the

[1:49:54] Voice 7: motion that's been made. And hopefully this becomes a

[1:50:00] Voice 7: positive, resilient process that the next LTC puts. So I'll call

[1:50:06] Voice 7: the vote. All in favor? That passes unanimously. Okay, so

[1:50:10] Voice 7: thank you very much. Is there anything more on this that we

[1:50:13] Voice 7: need to do? So good luck on your you're working with the staff.

[1:50:18] Voice 7: they all everybody has all good wishes um thank you very much thanks very much thanks for joining

[1:50:25] Voice 7: us uh the next item on the agenda then is the groundwater implementation project but i do not

[1:50:32] Voice 7: see oh okay we're needing uh nervous uh

[1:50:37] Voice 7: planner chadwick to join us so while we're waiting for

[1:50:42] Voice 7: her let's just work through some of the uh the remaining work is there we have the work programs

[1:50:48] Voice 7: report is there anything arising related to that from either of the trustees that's at page nine to

[1:50:53] Voice 7: six

[1:50:54] Voice 8: well

[1:50:55] Voice 7: i'm just waiting for the rest to arrive page 96.

[1:51:02] Voice 11: yeah i did have some project report uh

[1:51:11] Voice 11: well we've

[1:51:12] Voice 7: got the it's divided into top priorities and projects so yeah

[1:51:15] Voice 7: yeah so

[1:51:16] Voice 11: the project was um part of what i was going to make a couple of motions to remove

[1:51:21] Voice 11: a couple things that i thought were extra for nuts so the new trust committee would have uh

[1:51:26] Voice 11: tied it up okay

[1:51:28] Voice 10: i

[1:51:29] Voice 11: was and i'm gonna i won't make the motion yet uh because for discussion

[1:51:32] Voice 11: i'm just going to consider removing dog review number five as the province has prohibited any

[1:51:37] Voice 11: new applications for private dogs for the next years and as this is temporarily irrelevant it

[1:51:42] Voice 11: could be revisited to process removes that provision okay

[1:51:48] Voice 7: i'm seeing nods from your fellow

[1:51:51] Voice 7: trustee i

[1:51:52] Voice 12: mean i just didn't know i mean that was just i

[1:51:53] Voice 7: i they put the the freeze on a year ago

[1:52:00] Voice 7: it's a two-year revision i don't know what i haven't heard

[1:52:04] Voice 7: nothing about what

[1:52:05] Voice 7: so

[1:52:06] Voice 16: i thought it's not really even something that's relevant right now okay

[1:52:10] Voice 7: well you'd like

[1:52:11] Voice 7: to take it off again in the next local

[1:52:12] Voice 7: trust committee will obviously put on what they need

[1:52:14] Voice 7: that off yeah

[1:52:15] Voice 16: okay

[1:52:16] Voice 7: and what else uh

[1:52:17] Voice 16: removing number nine review the

[1:52:20] Voice 11: land use for water

[1:52:20] Voice 11: management and system regulations i believe it's incorporated in that groundwater sustainability

[1:52:25] Voice 11: project yeah okay

[1:52:26] Voice 11: and that was it just those two um five and nine okay um

[1:52:32] Voice 7: trustee you have

[1:52:34] Voice 11: anything

[1:52:34] Voice 7: else you'd like to put on no

[1:52:36] Voice 11: but we could do that right now yeah

[1:52:39] Voice 7: i'm just letting um

[1:52:42] Voice 7: um there's a planner chat again but we could just move so we're going to move that uh we take items

[1:52:49] Voice 10: five

[1:52:50] Voice 7: and nine off the projects remove them from the project list did you get that

[1:52:55] Voice 7: direct

[1:52:56] Voice 14: staff to remove items number five and nine from projects list

[1:53:01] Voice 14: correct

[1:53:01] Voice 7: okay so that's the motion has been made uh that passes you know

[1:53:07] Voice 7: actually well this member

[1:53:08] Voice 15: no i'm sorry oh it's

[1:53:11] Voice 11: a review of landings water by water management and

[1:53:14] Voice 11: system regulations okay

[1:53:20] Voice 7: um

[1:53:21] Voice 9: very efficient

[1:53:26] Voice 7: uh okay so let's go to i see that planner chadwick has

[1:53:31] Voice 7: joined us we'll come back to the applications report in a moment uh planner chadwick welcome

[1:53:37] Voice 7: where we just were waiting your time we did some other work and we're a great groundwater

[1:53:41] Voice 7: implementation project uh you have a staff report starting at page 73 and i think you have some

[1:53:49] Voice 7: decision items for us so over to you go ahead uh

[1:53:53] Voice 21: thank you chair rogers um yeah so we have um

[1:53:57] Voice 21: We have the draft bylaws 283 and 284 that have been put forward to the LTC previously,

[1:54:13] Voice 21: and they are doing a few different things.

[1:54:18] Voice 21: So one is an amendment to the land use by-law and one is an amendment to the OCP, which includes the development permit area.

[1:54:37] Voice 21: So there's a couple of things that we sort of need to look at today.

[1:54:42] Voice 21: One is, this is an opportunity for, so we presented the bylaws previously, although at the time there hadn't been an opportunity to have a lot of discussion about the land use bylaw.

[1:54:59] Voice 21: And we have talked quite a bit about the development permit area bylaw, which will be part of the OCP.

[1:55:06] Voice 21: So, purpose here is to present the land use bylaws, both of those bylaws at this time for endorsement.

[1:55:13] Voice 21: So, again, the land use bylaw, just making sure that the LTC is aware of what's, you know, agreeing with that land use bylaw,

[1:55:25] Voice 21: because it includes things such as new definitions, cistern requirements, and, you know, and in

[1:55:34] Voice 21: addition, some, you know, just some changes in language, but the most, the key part there is

[1:55:40] Voice 21: the requirement for the cisterns, and I don't believe there's been actually discussion about

[1:55:45] Voice 21: that, so wanted to make sure that the LTC had an opportunity to contemplate that before going to

[1:55:51] Voice 21: to readings on that one um and with respect to the ocp specifically the development permit area

[1:56:00] Voice 21: as you know we had a um you know quite a thing i think quite an engaging um community information

[1:56:05] Voice 21: meeting um where we had i think up to about 20 community community members who were able to

[1:56:12] Voice 21: have a look at maps and have some discussions and we had william shulba do a presentation

[1:56:16] Voice 21: And the focus there was really on trying to get a sense of interest around the proposed development permit area boundaries.

[1:56:32] Voice 21: And so the options that were presented and that are included in maps in the staff report include boundaries that look at,

[1:56:52] Voice 21: So it's all based on the groundwater, the critical aquifer, the area that is covered by what William has defined as critical aquifer area.

[1:57:14] Voice 21: So the areas that are critical to essentially protecting the aquifer.

[1:57:19] Voice 21: So these scenarios focus on the percentage of the area that is covered by the critical aquifer recharge area, the percentage of a lot that is covered by that area.

[1:57:43] Voice 21: And we decided to look at to define the the DPA area by lot, as opposed to just doing a random line around the critical aquifer recharge area.

[1:57:56] Voice 21: So I think I think I think trustees understand that methodology.

[1:58:01] Voice 21: So I was just repeating it. Are there any questions about that before I just continue?

[1:58:07] Voice 21: we're good okay good so so um what's presented are options for um two hectare five hectare and

[1:58:18] Voice 21: 10 hectare coverage of lots so in the two hectare scenario as you see on your map and as you can

[1:58:26] Voice 21: also see in the chart that's on um page three of the staff report um the the two hectare option

[1:58:35] Voice 21: would mean that if you have at least two hectares

[1:58:40] Voice 21: of critical aquifer recharge area

[1:58:44] Voice 21: that your lot is included.

[1:58:46] Voice 21: So that would protect 2000, as you can see it,

[1:58:52] Voice 21: like you can see the numbers there,

[1:58:54] Voice 21: 87% of the critical recharge area,

[1:58:59] Voice 21: the fact five hectares coverage.

[1:59:01] Voice 21: So if your lot is covered by five hectares

[1:59:04] Voice 21: or more, 76%, and then it goes down to 66% for the 10 hectare coverage. Now, the things to keep

[1:59:15] Voice 21: in mind here, in the chart on page three, that also includes some original calculations that

[1:59:23] Voice 21: William did, which included the protected areas. And what we're suggesting is that

[1:59:30] Voice 21: But we don't actually need to include the parks and protected areas because they're already, they are already, they're already protecting, you know, based.

[1:59:43] Voice 21: First of all, if there are local government regulation doesn't apply to provincial or federal, and if it's if it's a protected under covenant, then it's already protected so we don't need to be including that in the boundaries.

[2:00:00] Voice 21: We are suggesting the staff recommendation is to go for the five-hectare coverage, and that's because there's actually a significant difference between the amount of lots.

[2:00:11] Voice 21: If you go from five to two, you're essentially almost doubling the number of lots affected, which could lead to a substantial increase in challenges in administering the bylaw.

[2:00:30] Voice 21: which includes, you know, inquiries and bylaw enforcement, et cetera.

[2:00:35] Voice 21: So if you go to the five hectare, while there's a little bit less,

[2:00:41] Voice 21: almost 10% less coverage, you are, there's less administration.

[2:00:47] Voice 21: And another thing to consider is that with the two hectare coverage,

[2:00:52] Voice 21: you're also including smaller lots that in some cases,

[2:00:56] Voice 21: the smaller lots are already disturbed.

[2:00:59] Voice 21: So, that's also something to sort of think about so what what essentially the decision that I need from.

[2:01:07] Voice 21: We weren't quite ready to go for it to first reading yet, because we, we needed to make have a decision made on the, on the, on the boundaries.

[2:01:21] Voice 21: So like I said, what staff is suggesting, recommending is that the bylaw, the development permit area, bylaw of the OCP amendment include the five-hectare lot coverage that excludes the designated, the areas designated to park and conservation.

[2:01:44] Voice 21: So Schedule D by G would reflect that.

[2:01:50] Voice 21: Any questions?

[2:01:53] Voice 7: trustees questions trustee wilmington no i'm fine

[2:01:57] Voice 7: okay no they have no questions for you and i have

[2:01:59] Voice 7: no questions i understand your report but a lot except for one thing are we talking are you saying

[2:02:04] Voice 7: all five acre lots are only are only lots that have five acres of of um

[2:02:14] Voice 7: five

[2:02:14] Voice 21: hectares or more so if they have hot uh if they're covered by at least five hectares of

[2:02:21] Voice 21: of critical aquifer recharge area, they would be included.

[2:02:24] Voice 21: Okay,

[2:02:25] Voice 7: but in some, just

[2:02:25] Voice 7: to give you an example,

[2:02:26] Voice 7: so if you had a 30-hectare lot,

[2:02:29] Voice 7: but only one hectare was in the critical aquifer recharge,

[2:02:33] Voice 7: they would not be caught?

[2:02:35] Voice 21: They would not be caught.

[2:02:36] Voice 21: Okay,

[2:02:36] Voice 7: so the intention is,

[2:02:37] Voice 7: okay, that's what I thought you said,

[2:02:39] Voice 7: I just wanted to be clear in my mind about that.

[2:02:42] Voice 9: Yeah.

[2:02:42] Voice 7: Okay, so they have no questions.

[2:02:44] Voice 7: Do you have any, what do you want to do, trustees?

[2:02:48] Voice 7: How do you want to proceed?

[2:02:49] Voice 7: oh

[2:02:50] Voice 12: i'm happy to make a motion is

[2:02:53] Voice 7: it the motion that's in the staff report okay because i see

[2:02:57] Voice 7: them both nodding so i'm just just for pat's purposes yeah

[2:02:59] Voice 11: so

[2:03:00] Voice 7: go ahead um

[2:03:02] Voice 11: that the galleon

[2:03:03] Voice 11: island local committee endorsed bylaw number 283 cited as galleon island officially official

[2:03:07] Voice 11: community plan bylaw number 108 1995 amendment number 1 2022 with schedule g including the

[2:03:14] Voice 11: groundwater recharge protection development

[2:03:16] Voice 12: permit area boundaries based on five hectares

[2:03:18] Voice 12: of lot coverage excluding areas designated as park or conservation okay

[2:03:22] Voice 7: is there a second do either

[2:03:24] Voice 7: of you wish to speak to these um

[2:03:26] Voice 12: i'll speak to i'll just make one

[2:03:28] Voice 16: i'll just speak to the motions

[2:03:30] Voice 16: that i i'm going to make them once um i think by including cistern and volume requirements the ltc

[2:03:36] Voice 16: is taking a precautionary approach to

[2:03:37] Voice 12: ensuring island has continued

[2:03:39] Voice 11: supply of fresh water

[2:03:40] Voice 11: and a two hectare option increases protection but will potentially increase challenges from

[2:03:45] Voice 11: by the law demonstration therefore i think the five factor provides significant prevention of

[2:03:50] Voice 11: galliano's critical

[2:03:51] Voice 12: aquifer recharge area while affecting almost half as many blocks

[2:03:54] Voice 12: and this dpa will inform future development of galliano so that it occurs in the most appropriate

[2:03:58] Voice 12: areas and protects

[2:03:59] Voice 11: fresh water okay

[2:04:01] Voice 7: trustee wolverton do you wish to speak to the motion

[2:04:03] Voice 7: uh

[2:04:04] Voice 11: no i would i would agree with that i think it's a good um compromise you know between the

[2:04:09] Voice 11: the two and ten and eight five is will give good coverage and um in the future it might change who

[2:04:16] Voice 11: knows i

[2:04:18] Voice 12: guess uh comments i have heard from the community or the when you look at the map it looks

[2:04:23] Voice 12: like you

[2:04:24] Voice 12: can't do anything in

[2:04:24] Voice 11: those areas but um it's just it's a dpa which means that basically

[2:04:29] Voice 11: if someone wants to develop in those areas they will make an application to be brought to the

[2:04:34] Voice 11: ltc and you can just make a better decision of where the development takes place in that area

[2:04:39] Voice 11: how that it can't take place but we just have the potential to

[2:04:43] Voice 16: choose to protect it or not

[2:04:45] Voice 16: so yeah

[2:04:46] Voice 7: i mean it might be stopping the decision you know what we

[2:04:49] Voice 7: do with the next time on the

[2:04:51] Voice 7: agenda

[2:04:51] Voice 10: where

[2:04:53] Voice 7: there's a proposal to defer that stuff and that would probably get out of the list

[2:04:59] Voice 7: but yeah

[2:05:00] Voice 16: you don't have a

[2:05:01] Voice 7: dpa yet so

[2:05:02] Voice 16: i think it would also facilitate a smoother

[2:05:03] Voice 16: our rezoning process because we wouldn't we would have more information on groundwater

[2:05:10] Voice 16: uh already in place right

[2:05:12] Voice 11: yeah okay

[2:05:13] Voice 7: anything else okay so there's a motion on the table

[2:05:17] Voice 7: it's been seconded i'll call the vote all in favor that happens unanimously

[2:05:21] Voice 7: there's another suggestion a second suggested motion you

[2:05:25] Voice 11: want to do it trustee sure that the

[2:05:27] Voice 11: galliano island local trust committee endorsed bylaw number 284 cited as galliano island land

[2:05:32] Voice 11: use bylaw number 127 1999 amendment number one 2022. okay

[2:05:38] Voice 7: is there a second any further discussion

[2:05:40] Voice 7: call the vote that passes keep going uh

[2:05:43] Voice 11: move the galliano island local trust committee by

[2:05:45] Voice 11: law number 283 said it is galliano island official community plan bylaw number 108

[2:05:50] Voice 11: 1995 amendment number one 2022 and the galliano island committee bylaw number 284

[2:05:56] Voice 11: Board, say that this Galleon Island Land Use By-law number 127-1999, amendment number

[2:06:02] Voice 11: 1-2022, be brought forward for our first reading at the next regular notice meeting.

[2:06:07] Voice 7: Second.

[2:06:07] Voice 7: All in favor?

[2:06:09] Voice 7: Passes.

[2:06:09] Voice 7: Go ahead.

[2:06:10] Voice 11: That the Galleon Island Local Trust Committee request staff prepare draft bylaws that would

[2:06:15] Voice 11: amend the Development Approval Information By-law number 148 and Delegation By-law number

[2:06:21] Voice 11: 286 for consistency with By-law 283.

[2:06:25] Voice 11: okay

[2:06:25] Voice 7: and that's uh seconded any further discussion related to that matter okay all

[2:06:30] Voice 7: in favor thanks and thank you very much planner chadwick you need anything more from us there's

[2:06:35] Voice 7: no okay thank

[2:06:37] Voice 21: you very much i

[2:06:38] Voice 7: i think somehow or other we've moved down this road around

[2:06:42] Voice 7: water protection and such we're faster than any of the other ltc's i think we're the first ones

[2:06:47] Voice 7: to sort of yeah

[2:06:48] Voice 21: yeah definitely yeah and i yeah thank you for um for being pioneers

[2:06:52] Voice 21: years.

[2:06:53] Voice 7: Well, you know, it's been an interesting process because it started about a year into our

[2:06:57] Voice 7: term, really at the instigation of North Pender. And it then became a project for all the Southern

[2:07:04] Voice 7: Gulf Islands and now became a project for the whole Trust Council about how we go about doing

[2:07:09] Voice 7: this kind of water protection. So I'm glad, I'm very pleased that this local trust committee may

[2:07:16] Voice 7: be the first to adopt some protection violence. So thanks for your work on this. I know that's

[2:07:21] Voice 7: going to be a good big part of your work going forward thank

[2:07:24] Voice 11: you thanks

[2:07:25] Voice 7: teresa thank

[2:07:25] Voice 11: you uh

[2:07:27] Voice 7: the next item on the agenda well let's go back to the agenda we did 15.1 uh is there any questions

[2:07:33] Voice 7: for a 15-2 applications report are there any uh questions for the threat plan related to any

[2:07:38] Voice 7: applications no nothing there's a trustee expense report it's here for information uh in the public

[2:07:47] Voice 7: we have our adopted policies and standing resolutions is there anything that that

[2:07:51] Voice 7: anybody wishes to address related to that um and then there we don't have our any of

[2:07:57] Voice 7: 15 five or six so the next item is 16.1 which is the delegation bylaw number 286

[2:08:05] Voice 7: uh this is the one i just references which is um following along with the trust council

[2:08:11] Voice 7: decision and decision of local trust committee uh because of the provincial authority to

[2:08:15] Voice 7: to delegate um the approval on the development permits uh to staff rather than have them come

[2:08:24] Voice 7: to the local trust committee for approval with you um it's anyway i'll let you introduce it

[2:08:31] Voice 7: the

[2:08:32] Voice 15: report that's actually the draft bylaw consideration that you use the

[2:08:42] Voice 15: direction at your last meeting to move forward with the original planning manager Kojima

[2:08:49] Voice 15: looking to provide delegation authority development permit areas one through five

[2:08:58] Voice 15: and development permit area seven and so recommendations here are for you to consider

[2:09:04] Voice 15: of the bylaw and direct them to be uh sensitive

[2:09:14] Voice 7: questions for the planet no

[2:09:18] Voice 11: it's we've been through yeah

[2:09:21] Voice 7: i know we've been through it yes

[2:09:22] Voice 7: i know we could i guess my only

[2:09:24] Voice 7: my like comment would be um i know that there's always

[2:09:28] Voice 7: implementation policies that come along with new policies or internal policy uh i just would

[2:09:36] Voice 7: We heard the comment last meeting,

[2:09:39] Voice 7: or maybe the meeting before,

[2:09:41] Voice 7: whenever it was we first saw this,

[2:09:43] Voice 7: that if someone is denied a development permit by staff,

[2:09:47] Voice 10: they

[2:09:47] Voice 7: should be informed at the time

[2:09:50] Voice 7: that they have an opportunity

[2:09:51] Voice 7: to appeal to the local trust community.

[2:09:55] Voice 7: So I hope that becomes part of the internal practices

[2:09:58] Voice 7: of the staff that when that, if that ever occurred,

[2:10:02] Voice 7: they would be advised that they can appeal.

[2:10:03] Voice 7: because you know that's that's that then takes it back to us to the local trust committee to make a

[2:10:10] Voice 7: final final decision i think that's appropriate so but other than that i quite find this and i

[2:10:15] Voice 7: appreciate you that you've taken out um dpa6 for a particular reason and i think that those reasons

[2:10:22] Voice 7: are settled so does anybody want to read the uh motions before you go that

[2:10:28] Voice 15: requirement for uh

[2:10:30] Voice 15: for the LTC to reconsider, where is that?

[2:10:33] Voice 15: It's in the by-law.

[2:10:35] Voice 15: It's in the by-law?

[2:10:36] Voice 7: It's not a requirement.

[2:10:37] Voice 7: It's an opportunity.

[2:10:39] Voice 7: So what happens is if a DPA is denied by the staff, a DP,

[2:10:46] Voice 7: then there's an opportunity.

[2:10:48] Voice 7: Sorry, and only because I have fingers on this.

[2:10:53] Voice 7: Yeah, it's okay.

[2:10:54] Voice 7: It's eight, maybe,

[2:10:56] Voice 11: on page...

[2:10:57] Voice 11: It's

[2:10:57] Voice 7: reconsideration, an applicant may have a decision of the delegate in relation to a permit reconsidered by the local trust committee by submitting a written request.

[2:11:10] Voice 7: And I just want to make sure that when you, if that happened, I mean that would be the practice I think always, but I just wouldn't pass that message on.

[2:11:18] Voice 7: that they should always be a little blurb at the bottom that says well this has been denied

[2:11:23] Voice 7: if you uh apply for reconsideration within 38 then the local trust committee

[2:11:29] Voice 7: and i think that's appropriate okay so so um motions i

[2:11:37] Voice 11: can make the first one uh that the

[2:11:39] Voice 11: galliano island local trust committee uh bylaw number 286 cited as the galliano island local

[2:11:45] Voice 11: trust committee delegation bylaw number 286 2022 be read for the first time is there

[2:11:50] Voice 7: a second any

[2:11:51] Voice 7: discussion no all in favor passes uh

[2:11:55] Voice 11: that the galliano trust committee about number 286

[2:12:04] Voice 7: seconded all in favor that passes that

[2:12:07] Voice 11: the galliano island local trust committee

[2:12:09] Voice 11: bylaw number 286 cited as galliano island local trust committee delegation bylaw

[2:12:13] Voice 11: about number 286, 2022, be read for a third time.

[2:12:17] Voice 7: Seconded, all in favor?

[2:12:18] Voice 7: Go ahead.

[2:12:19] Voice 11: That the Galliano Island Local Trust Committee

[2:12:21] Voice 11: bylaw number 286,

[2:12:22] Voice 11: Senate Galliano Island Local Trust Committee

[2:12:24] Voice 11: delegation bylaw number 286, 2022,

[2:12:27] Voice 11: be forwarded to the Secretary of the Island Trust

[2:12:29] Voice 11: for approval by the executive committee.

[2:12:31] Voice 7: Seconded, all in favor?

[2:12:32] Voice 7: Thank you.

[2:12:33] Voice 7: Okay, I think we may be the first local trust committee

[2:12:36] Voice 7: to do this as well, that I know of.

[2:12:39] Voice 7: But this is a direction of trust council.

[2:12:42] Voice 7: all they've approved the model bylaws and we've now adopted it thank you very much for your work

[2:12:47] Voice 7: on this to uh rpm kajima uh 16.2 uh trustee wilmington you wanted to speak about it

[2:12:58] Voice 7: yeah

[2:12:58] Voice 11: so some of you may know we have a problem with goats that are not being

[2:13:03] Voice 11: contained on their property uh fenced in on their property and the goats

[2:13:08] Voice 11: um are roaming freely and um so i i think there are there are some issues of bylaw enforcement

[2:13:17] Voice 11: i think what uh would be helpful is if the incoming ltc had a report back from

[2:13:25] Voice 11: uh bylaw enforcement on this particular issue and on what kinds of options there are

[2:13:33] Voice 11: it's it's quite a it's quite a difficult complex situation okay

[2:13:41] Voice 7: i i totally agree i'm just

[2:13:44] Voice 7: wondering given the timing when the next lcc may meet whether that's a whether it would just be

[2:13:50] Voice 7: better to talk to by law enforcement people itself or do you want a formal report to the lcc i think

[2:13:55] Voice 11: a formal report they are working with the with the the complainant so but i think it um because it

[2:14:03] Voice 11: it has it's not it has happened before and not necessarily with you know with these goats but

[2:14:09] Voice 11: with other with sheep and so on and i think that there's a there's a problem of jurisdiction in

[2:14:16] Voice 11: trying to sort out who will uh help these owners of the goats actually you know do what they what

[2:14:24] Voice 11: is responsible for a goat herd. So I think that the information for the next LTC could be quite

[2:14:37] Voice 11: helpful.

[2:14:38] Voice 7: Okay so you're suggesting a report from bylaw enforcement about options that guidance

[2:14:42] Voice 7: trust may have related to wandering livestock or livestock generally.

[2:14:49] Voice 11: Yeah wandering livestock

[2:14:50] Voice 11: off but in particular the goats yeah

[2:14:53] Voice 7: i mean it's a big problem i mean you run the risk of those

[2:14:56] Voice 7: things of those going feral and if that happens you'll end up like main island with literally

[2:15:02] Voice 7: thousands of uh fair of um deer wondering about the goats on saturn or goats

[2:15:10] Voice 7: on saturn or sheep

[2:15:12] Voice 7: cheap on Luskete or each island seems to have their own

[2:15:16] Voice 10: people and thoughts.

[2:15:19] Voice 7: I shouldn't say that.

[2:15:22] Voice 7: Anyway, then there's wild turkeys on Gabriola.

[2:15:29] Voice 7: Anyway, why don't you make your own.

[2:15:31] Voice 7: Okay,

[2:15:31] Voice 11: I would move that the local trust committee request staff to report back to the first LTC of the new term

[2:15:40] Voice 9: on the issue of livestock

[2:15:44] Voice 11: and uncontained or um yeah uncontained livestock

[2:15:54] Voice 11: so

[2:15:56] Voice 7: by law enforcement options for the trust that's

[2:15:59] Voice 14: correct what

[2:16:00] Voice 7: did you get

[2:16:02] Voice 7: um

[2:16:03] Voice 14: okay request staff to research and determine options

[2:16:11] Voice 14: or by-law

[2:16:13] Voice 14: options yeah by-law

[2:16:15] Voice 7: islands trust by-law enforcement or uh yeah but i guess so

[2:16:20] Voice 7: or maybe

[2:16:21] Voice 7: it's not just by-law enforcement maybe it's something else well

[2:16:24] Voice 11: we have in our ocp or

[2:16:26] Voice 11: land use by-law requirements that people can

[2:16:29] Voice 7: oh okay so that yeah by-law islands trust by-law

[2:16:31] Voice 7: enforcement options for uncontained livestock i

[2:16:38] Voice 9: think that makes

[2:16:39] Voice 9: sense to you

[2:16:43] Voice 9: is that the word you want i'm contained yes

[2:16:47] Voice 11: maybe

[2:16:49] Voice 10: not i

[2:16:50] Voice 11: do roger what's a good term for

[2:16:55] Voice 11: livestock that is not contained at

[2:16:59] Voice 10: large yeah

[2:17:00] Voice 7: yeah

[2:17:02] Voice 11: livestock at large livestock at large

[2:17:06] Voice 7: it's a community process drafting the motions by community so

[2:17:13] Voice 14: okay so livestock

[2:17:15] Voice 7: at large

[2:17:16] Voice 7: livestock

[2:17:17] Voice 14: at large okay okay so

[2:17:20] Voice 7: could i go over that again okay so that's been moved

[2:17:24] Voice 7: is there a second year that's been seconded i think we got it well

[2:17:28] Voice 14: i was just gonna say if i

[2:17:29] Voice 14: could go over it one more time request staff to determine islands trust bylaw enforcement options

[2:17:35] Voice 14: for livestock at large request staff

[2:17:38] Voice 7: to report to the next ltc stuff to

[2:17:42] Voice 14: report to research and

[2:17:45] Voice 7: report to the next lcc bylaw islands trust bylaw enforcement options for livestock at large to the

[2:17:55] Voice 14: the next ltc islands trust by law enforcement options for livestock at large okay okay

[2:18:04] Voice 14: seconded by

[2:18:04] Voice 7: and we're is there any further discussion we're going to call the vote okay

[2:18:09] Voice 7: that passes unanimously uh yes we do

[2:18:13] Voice 15: have one thing to add about

[2:18:16] Voice 7: that or another item

[2:18:17] Voice 15: going back to galley it's something that i think so we might need to ask

[2:18:27] Voice 7: what we don't

[2:18:33] Voice 15: have is uh a motion saying that you uh have reviewed the housing agreement

[2:18:41] Voice 9: against the island stress policy because that's one of the key things so staff would recommend

[2:18:50] Voice 15: in that there's no contrary concerns with respect to that that

[2:18:56] Voice 7: was that happened

[2:19:00] Voice 14: i'm sorry i'm missing that yeah okay

[2:19:03] Voice 14: we'll come back to you that's okay okay

[2:19:05] Voice 14: we'll

[2:19:05] Voice 7: get to you when we have this it's another suggested motion

[2:19:09] Voice 15: okay that's the motion on that

[2:19:11] Voice 15: space uh trustee wolverton

[2:19:21] Voice 7: will not know this but um the the the housing agreements are

[2:19:29] Voice 7: effectively identical between figures and galley and we passed a motion related to giggers that

[2:19:35] Voice 7: that it was consistent with the trust policy statement right so um so we've done this

[2:19:42] Voice 7: but not the view present so um

[2:19:45] Voice 15: so i would suggest a motion worded that the ltc

[2:19:49] Voice 15: uh determines or has considered and determines that administrative bylaw number 285 is not

[2:19:56] Voice 15: contrary to her at variance with the island's trust policy statement okay

[2:20:02] Voice 7: you're going to

[2:20:02] Voice 7: have to get pat to see if the pat got that the

[2:20:07] Voice 14: ltc has considered and determined that bylaw

[2:20:10] Voice 14: 285 285 is not contrary

[2:20:16] Voice 15: to okay

[2:20:17] Voice 14: or

[2:20:18] Voice 15: at variance to

[2:20:20] Voice 14: or at variance yes with the

[2:20:24] Voice 15: island's trust policy statement with

[2:20:26] Voice 14: island's trust policy statement okay thank you any questions

[2:20:35] Voice 7: to

[2:20:36] Voice 11: see if we have had that discussion i

[2:20:39] Voice 7: don't i do not believe we did and if you wanted the

[2:20:45] Voice 7: the opportunity to go through the checklist i'm

[2:20:50] Voice 11: comfortable i mean i have looked at it myself

[2:20:52] Voice 11: so i don't i didn't see anything that would be contrary right

[2:20:57] Voice 7: in fact most of the provisions

[2:20:59] Voice 7: of the Trust Policy Statement

[2:21:00] Voice 7: related to environmental considerations

[2:21:02] Voice 7: and things of that nature.

[2:21:03] Voice 7: There are some community objectives,

[2:21:05] Voice 7: and as I said, we did go through,

[2:21:08] Voice 7: we did look at it and determined

[2:21:12] Voice 7: that it was not contrary to those community objectives.

[2:21:15] Voice 7: In fact, it's in accord with some of the community objectives.

[2:21:19] Voice 7: Okay, so that motion, do you wanna make that motion?

[2:21:21] Voice 7: I'll make

[2:21:21] Voice 11: that motion, I'll salute.

[2:21:23] Voice 7: And I'll second it, any further discussion?

[2:21:26] Voice 7: Okay, so that passes unanimously.

[2:21:29] Voice 7: sleep can we get to hear about it because i think she wants to talk about the next item which is

[2:21:34] Voice 7: that we have now our next regular scheduled meeting which was so let me let me explain

[2:21:41] Voice 7: something that occurred um by november 7th there should have been a new local trust committee

[2:21:47] Voice 7: um but uh there won't be and the reason why there won't be is because uh they can't be sworn in

[2:21:55] Voice 7: until uh after november the 7th it turns out the legislation um does not allow trustees to

[2:22:04] Voice 7: be sworn in until the first monday in november um the plan was to swear them in on november

[2:22:12] Voice 7: 1st but that's gone by the boards it looks like the new trustees will not be sworn in until

[2:22:18] Voice 7: until sometime during the week of November the 14th.

[2:22:21] Voice 2: As

[2:22:22] Voice 7: it turns out, just because we set our schedule

[2:22:27] Voice 7: well in advance, that the November 7th LTC is scheduled

[2:22:32] Voice 7: for this local trust committee for November the 7th.

[2:22:36] Voice 7: And, but I already mean travel plans,

[2:22:41] Voice 7: which doesn't mean you two can't go ahead,

[2:22:43] Voice 7: but what do you want to do about the November 7th?

[2:22:47] Voice 11: well i i think um considering the election will have occurred there will be uh elected

[2:22:54] Voice 11: but not sworn in trustees i i i don't think we should go ahead with the november 7th meeting

[2:23:02] Voice 11: that would be my um yeah i mean i feel like the agenda would be pretty late for november also

[2:23:08] Voice 9: um

[2:23:09] Voice 11: and that's just an assumption given where most of our applications are at

[2:23:14] Voice 11: and

[2:23:16] Voice 7: both of the applications that we have before us um regarding housing and we've agreed to

[2:23:23] Voice 7: come back by our every way yeah um

[2:23:26] Voice 7: and deal with those because that's we can't receive any more

[2:23:30] public input indicate in any case so it's just simply up to us um i

[2:23:35] Voice 7: don't know what else would

[2:23:36] Voice 7: be on the agenda for whoever's done i

[2:23:38] Voice 16: don't uh either fire

[2:23:42] Voice 7: smith do you have any insights about

[2:23:44] Voice 7: that i

[2:23:45] Voice 15: think you it would be fine for you to cancel that meeting and just look forward and

[2:23:51] Voice 7: then is there one for

[2:23:52] Voice 15: december six i think yeah i

[2:23:55] Voice 16: mean we're going to be putting any applicant out

[2:23:57] Voice 11: like there's no pressing application there is i know um there is one applicant here

[2:24:06] Voice 11: but um but it's just invariance yeah yeah it's not there's

[2:24:11] Voice 15: just a keeper who has applied for

[2:24:13] Voice 15: a development permit that staff are just starting to work on right

[2:24:18] Voice 11: that's still maybe not even

[2:24:20] Voice 11: be in time okay

[2:24:24] Voice 7: so your

[2:24:26] Voice 15: general he wouldn't be happy with that but uh whether it could be on

[2:24:30] Voice 15: remember self-content it's still okay i

[2:24:32] Voice 16: feel a bit awkward considering i'm not running or

[2:24:36] Voice 16: being a candidate and then speaking on behalf of the community after they've elected someone else

[2:24:41] Voice 16: so i mean that's just why yeah

[2:24:44] Voice 7: and my view would be that's true however if there was something

[2:24:48] Voice 7: pressing that you're doing for example i'm doing a public hearing on main island at the end of this

[2:24:54] Voice 7: month after the elections already occurred because the trustees wanted to do that so

[2:24:58] Voice 16: yeah if it was

[2:24:59] Voice 16: on like a public hearing in the wings i would definitely you know consider that i just i don't

[2:25:04] Voice 16: know given that you're away and there's yeah

[2:25:09] Voice 7: given that

[2:25:10] Voice 16: in a way i have

[2:25:11] Voice 7: we have to move the date and

[2:25:12] Voice 7: have it or just post or just cancel it and yeah and uh and then the next local trust committee

[2:25:18] Voice 7: meeting will be december the 6th

[2:25:19] Voice 11: yeah i think it's the fifth or

[2:25:21] Voice 7: whatever the date is yeah

[2:25:23] Voice 11: i

[2:25:23] Voice 7: took everything all the dates out of my calendar

[2:25:30] Voice 11: yeah otherwise we'd have to do it like october 31st if

[2:25:35] Voice 16: you were just be before you're that's

[2:25:38] Voice 16: what

[2:25:38] Voice 7: i mean it would have to be on like the november the first or second or something like

[2:25:42] Voice 7: that but i i what it's up to you to i'll come wherever you want me to be but i i if you don't

[2:25:48] Voice 7: think we need to have a local trust committee meeting well

[2:25:51] Voice 12: i'm happy to attend another meeting

[2:25:52] Voice 12: know just uh

[2:25:52] Voice 11: i just don't know if it's necessary okay

[2:25:55] Voice 7: let's see what we're doing um

[2:25:57] Voice 11: if we had an

[2:25:58] Voice 11: idea i guess of what was on the agenda you know is it just routine matters or i think he just

[2:26:04] Voice 11: told us essentially yeah

[2:26:06] Voice 16: just one

[2:26:07] Voice 11: potentially two variants yes two variants it

[2:26:10] Voice 15: seems one would be a

[2:26:11] Voice 15: development permit potentially any other would be necessary variants which i don't think the

[2:26:17] Voice 15: what's going to do all right i'm just talking about the other variants being your variants

[2:26:24] Voice 15: which is probably not too pressing with respect to hold you back

[2:26:32] Voice 15: but i

[2:26:34] Voice 11: think as far as uh you know having the planner come and having a you know a meeting

[2:26:42] Voice 11: well

[2:26:42] Voice 7: we could do it virtually that's

[2:26:44] Voice 11: true that's true um

[2:26:45] Voice 7: and there's nothing to stop us we have

[2:26:47] Voice 7: the authority now to have meetings virtually if we want to yeah i don't i don't think there's

[2:26:51] Voice 7: a requirement for the virgin business i think we just can do it i mean you can do that if you want

[2:26:58] Voice 7: to have a meeting uh move the meeting and have it virtually or i could probably even attend it

[2:27:03] Voice 7: virtually assist uh from our girls but if you want to yeah i tend to agree if it's no

[2:27:12] Voice 7: know nothing you need to do but it's up to you it's totally up to you

[2:27:16] Voice 11: yeah so i think we should

[2:27:17] Voice 11: postpone it till the december uh first week of december to give the new ltc time to work on it

[2:27:25] Voice 11: well

[2:27:26] Voice 7: yeah no one has sworn in about two weeks three weeks before

[2:27:29] Voice 7: still and the new executive

[2:27:31] Voice 7: vice chair will uh have to be appointed and uh just getting up and running one of the one i think

[2:27:38] Voice 7: per his first

[2:27:40] Voice 9: meetings so maybe yeah

[2:27:46] Voice 12: so i'll move that we postpone or cancel the november i think

[2:27:50] Voice 7: it's canceled because it's canceled

[2:27:51] Voice 11: the november galley notes we see

[2:27:54] Voice 7: november 7th november

[2:27:55] Voice 11: 7th

[2:27:56] Voice 11: okay

[2:27:59] Voice 7: uh well i think we've talked through so uh we'll hold both all in favor

[2:28:08] Voice 7: okay uh well thank you very much uh we're at the end of the agenda we have one the last item

[2:28:14] Voice 7: with the town hall uh before we do it i just wanted to say um now given that decision uh

[2:28:21] Voice 7: barring some um unforeseen events because i don't know what those might be uh this is my last time

[2:28:30] Voice 7: here uh sharing the uh the gala mltc it's been a pleasure um almost always

[2:28:38] Voice 10: maybe

[2:28:39] Voice 7: save a bit because who knows what someone's going to say in council

[2:28:42] Voice 7: call but uh this is your opportunity you'll have an opportunity to speak to the LTC does anybody

[2:28:47] Voice 7: wish to address the LTC yes I hate to sound like a

[2:28:51] Voice 9: broken record what are you going to do

[2:28:54] Voice 9: I

[2:28:54] Voice 11: have

[2:29:00] Voice 7: no direction to do anything so I have you can ask whether the other local trustees

[2:29:07] Voice 7: do you want to address that issue i mean we did get a request from from from mr ryback

[2:29:14] Voice 7: about the rogers later but responding to roger's letter we haven't had any direction from any from

[2:29:19] Voice 7: the local trust we had to do that i

[2:29:21] Voice 11: guess i was just felt like we were kind of a brick wall with

[2:29:25] Voice 11: rogers and we could write another letter but it doesn't mean they're going to engage i guess we

[2:29:32] Voice 11: could have already installed it's been installed from one step yeah i mean i guess we could write

[2:29:38] Voice 11: to them and say in future we our expectations you know or we want to be involved in consulting

[2:29:48] Voice 11: i'm pretty sure it's in our agreement with them but

[2:29:52] Voice 11: i know i know well

[2:29:55] Voice 7: as you know i mean it's a complicated issue

[2:30:00] Voice 7: position they didn't have to engagements because of the nature of the installation

[2:30:04] Voice 7: um and that would be consistent with the iscd by uh guidance it's we asked them to do a good

[2:30:11] Voice 7: corporate citizenship and they declined uh now they're in a huge fight with is that rogers is

[2:30:18] Voice 7: in a huge fight on salisbury yeah

[2:30:19] Voice 11: same same well

[2:30:22] Voice 7: it's a similar issue it's more complicated they

[2:30:26] Voice 11: haven't placed the tower yet it's

[2:30:27] Voice 7: more complicated because the the lcc originally gave concurrence

[2:30:34] Voice 7: and then revoked that concurrence based on community feedback and other issues and some

[2:30:39] Voice 7: issues around first nations again and rogers basically said too bad you've given concurrence

[2:30:46] Voice 7: we don't have to do this so i

[2:30:48] Voice 16: mean this is why i haven't taken any action on that because i don't

[2:30:52] Voice 11: feel like yeah

[2:30:54] Voice 7: so i think i i'm not i don't know i don't know what to say to you mr ryback it

[2:31:00] Voice 7: doesn't sound like the press committee wants to uh engage any further i'd

[2:31:04] Voice 16: like to but i don't

[2:31:05] Voice 16: i feel like a banging on a food store so maybe

[2:31:10] Voice 11: i was an individual in four weeks

[2:31:15] Voice 11: yeah i i don't i don't know unless you have any suggestions even that you think well he did write

[2:31:21] Voice 7: a letter and made a series of suggestions to us

[2:31:23] Voice 7: um and asked us and basically said here's the

[2:31:26] Voice 7: content i think should be in the letter yeah yeah so

[2:31:29] Voice 7: i don't think that we can put this on mr right

[2:31:31] Voice 11: um

[2:31:32] Voice 7: well

[2:31:37] Voice 11: i'd be fine with sending the letter that was composed for us well

[2:31:42] Voice 7: why don't you

[2:31:42] Voice 7: you don't have it in front of you do you

[2:31:44] Voice 7: want to go read it and if you want to send it or amend it

[2:31:47] Voice 7: do you want to start consider commencing an rwm and if we get it passed over that rwm

[2:31:54] Voice 7: then i can compose the letter and get it out before then okay i'll

[2:31:58] Voice 7: leave that to you okay

[2:31:59] Voice 11: or we could make a motion that you forward a letter to rogers and that uh uh we'll

[2:32:09] Voice 11: we'll put it together without having to do an rw we could make a motion

[2:32:13] Voice 11: today okay

[2:32:14] Voice 10: go ahead okay

[2:32:15] Voice 11: Okay. I will, Chair Rogers, respond to Rogers using as a sort of a guidance, the letter that was prepared by Stephen Ryback.

[2:32:27] Voice 9: Okay, Pat, did you get that?

[2:32:31] Voice 14: Okay. So respond to Rogers with the letter prepared by Mr. Ryback?

[2:32:40] Voice 14: Yeah,

[2:32:40] Voice 7: R-Y-B-A-C-K.

[2:32:42] Voice 14: O-C.

[2:32:43] Voice 14: O-C.

[2:32:44] Voice 14: Oh,

[2:32:44] Voice 7: sorry. R-Y-B-A-K.

[2:32:46] Voice 7: okay

[2:32:47] Voice 14: okay so you're asking the chair to respond to rogers is that rogers telecommunications would

[2:32:53] Voice 14: that be the yes

[2:32:55] Voice 7: or whatever they're called yes well

[2:32:57] Voice 14: yeah i'll look it up

[2:32:58] Voice 7: so it's okay we'll know

[2:33:00] Voice 7: who you're talking about with

[2:33:02] Voice 14: a letter with letter prepared by mr ryback with

[2:33:06] Voice 7: content based on the

[2:33:07] Voice 7: letter yeah oh sorry with content

[2:33:09] Voice 7: i may not agree with everything he says okay

[2:33:12] Voice 14: based on letter

[2:33:15] Voice 14: prepared by Mr. Ryback. Correct.

[2:33:24] Voice 14: Is that okay? I think so. Do you want it read back again?

[2:33:35] Voice 7: No, that's been moved by Trustee Wolff. Is there a second? Okay, it's been seconded by Trustee Rockefeller. All in favor? Any other comments in the sound hall for local trust committee? Well then, it's been a pleasure and we'll see you on the other side.

[2:33:59] Voice 10: I'm

[2:34:00] Voice 7: at the other side of the ceiling