Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, October 11, 2022

[0:00:00] Voice 12: me and i'm just making sure what i'm

[0:00:20] Voice 10: doing is recording and being live thank you good morning

[0:00:33] Voice 11: everyone members of the public joining us today on the live stream or watching us a little later

[0:00:39] Voice 11: in the day this is the uh sultan island local trust committee meeting for october the 11th and

[0:00:48] Voice 11: And we are meeting here in Coast Salish Territory, and it's a pleasure and honor to wake up here

[0:00:58] Voice 11: every day realizing the rich history and culture that we are surrounded with, fantastic opportunities

[0:01:07] Voice 11: to learn about the lives in the world of the Coast Salish people since the time of the

[0:01:12] Voice 11: Memorial. I encourage everyone to take the opportunity to learn about this place that we live.

[0:01:19] Voice 11: I'm thankful to live here. I am, my name is Peter Luckham. I'm elected on Edith's Island, which is

[0:01:26] Voice 11: in L'Aix and the Penelope Territory. And joining me today here on South Spring Island is Peter Grove,

[0:01:36] Voice 11: the locally elected trustee, Laura Pathet, locally elected trustee. Good morning both of you. I'm

[0:01:43] Voice 11: i'm also joined here uh with staff today roth pringle looking after our tech and uh other

[0:01:49] Voice 11: administrative matters sarah sugar a minute taker nice to see you again here thank you sarah

[0:01:54] Voice 11: joseph uh jillian blank jillian here from the uh office to uh assist us with the um with the

[0:02:05] Voice 11: community service awards that we're doing today so good morning everyone um we have an agenda before

[0:02:12] Voice 11: for us um revised agenda there is an addendum that came a little later on that's in your

[0:02:17] Voice 11: meeting package so i'll just ask if there's anything else to add or remove to the uh oh

[0:02:24] Voice 11: sorry um so i'll just ask if there's anything else to add or remove from the agenda and then i need

[0:02:29] Voice 11: to introduce chris hutton our new regional planning manager anything else to add i think

[0:02:35] Voice 4: think I can do that under the projects list. It's the workshop

[0:02:39] Voice 4: for the wildfire. Okay.

[0:02:41] Voice 4: We'll

[0:02:43] Voice 11: do that. Thank you. Anything else? So I just want to

[0:02:49] Voice 11: introduce Chris Hutton today. He is the new regional planning

[0:02:53] Voice 11: manager for the Salt Spring office and welcome Chris. Chris

[0:02:59] Voice 11: is a registered professional planner with a planning degree

[0:03:02] Voice 11: from Toronto Metropolitan University where he focused on

[0:03:05] Voice 11: community development from public administration and the impact of tourism and amenity migration

[0:03:10] Voice 11: in small bc communities chris's planning career has been focused in small communities including

[0:03:17] Voice 11: the caribou regional district city of williams lake and for the past five years with the

[0:03:23] Voice 11: municipality of north carolina in his last post he led the development of a pibc planning institute

[0:03:29] Voice 11: in virginia columbia award-winning development in a local area plan and the new official community

[0:03:34] Voice 11: the plan professionally chris is passionate about holistic and practical approach to community

[0:03:39] Voice 11: building from sound planning and project management practices and supporting the growth

[0:03:43] Voice 11: and development of young planners chris chris is also really passionate about gardening and

[0:03:48] Voice 11: spending time with his wife and four-year-old child they reside in duncan and it's uh chris

[0:03:53] Voice 11: is enjoying riding his bike over to salt spring island on a regular basis and so that's terrific

[0:03:59] Voice 11: Terrific. Chris, I thank you and welcome you to the Honest Trust.

[0:04:03] Voice 11: And I'll just turn the floor over to you if you have any remarks you'd like to make.

[0:04:08] Voice 2: Thank

[0:04:09] Voice 6: you, Chair Leckham. Just want to say it's really great to be here.

[0:04:12] Voice 6: It would be even better to be over there in person today.

[0:04:15] Voice 6: But unfortunately, due to illness, I felt it was better to just stay away.

[0:04:20] Voice 6: So but I am really excited to be working with Salt Spring and really happy to be working with such a great team in the office.

[0:04:28] Voice 6: And I'm really looking forward to working with the local trust committee on a lot of exciting happenings going on in Salt Springs.

[0:04:36] Voice 6: Thank you very much.

[0:04:39] Voice 11: I would just like to make a note.

[0:04:41] Voice 11: Louisa Garbo hasn't joined us yet, and we've learned shortly that this structure would like to acknowledge her work and support in the last number of months as the acting regional planning manager.

[0:04:53] Voice 11: that was a big job in difficult times and just really want to acknowledge and thank

[0:04:59] Voice 11: louise before that and when she arrives later on this morning i'll thank her in person as well

[0:05:03] Voice 11: um but um thank you very much for that uh taking on that extra responsibility all right so let us

[0:05:11] Voice 11: begin the meeting um and um i'll take it then that the agenda be adopted um by general consent

[0:05:19] Voice 11: as presented and the first item we have there is a 3.11 draft minutes of the september 6th

[0:05:26] Voice 11: ltc regular meeting is there any change to those minutes then i'll take it then that the minutes

[0:05:33] Voice 11: of september the 6th be adopted as presented by general consent we have no resolutions without

[0:05:39] Voice 11: meeting reports at this meeting we do have an advisory planning commission section we actually

[0:05:46] Voice 11: they have housing action program task force meeting minutes from september the 1st as well

[0:05:52] Voice 11: as the housing action program task force summary of recommendations both of those items are here

[0:06:00] Voice 11: for our information um and and so therefore i will receive them for information unless there's any

[0:06:06] Voice 11: further comments laura patrick over to you well i just

[0:06:09] Voice 4: want to take this moment to acknowledge

[0:06:10] Voice 4: how grateful i am for the report that they put forward i thought it was a tremendous

[0:06:15] Voice 4: this professional job that they

[0:06:18] Voice 4: caught and summarized.

[0:06:19] Voice 4: I think this is not the report of the Housing Action Program.

[0:06:24] Voice 4: I think this is just sort of the status of the beginning of the

[0:06:29] Voice 4: immediate sort of actions that they were preparing.

[0:06:33] Voice 4: I think for Chris's benefit, just I think this report is a very good piece.

[0:06:38] Voice 4: There was also the Southern Gulf Island Tourism Partnership,

[0:06:41] Voice 4: along with the Southern Wealth Island Housing Coalition,

[0:06:46] Voice 4: I can't think of their name,

[0:06:47] Voice 4: put in a CMHC housing solutions grant proposal

[0:06:52] Voice 4: that they were not successful in getting,

[0:06:54] Voice 4: but they had $75,000 to prepare it,

[0:06:57] Voice 4: a really robust job on identifying things

[0:07:00] Voice 4: that the Islands Trust could do, the CRD and others.

[0:07:03] Voice 4: I think together, I think they're both important pieces

[0:07:06] Voice 4: to look at as we formulate the next steps for housing.

[0:07:10] Voice 4: thank

[0:07:12] Voice 11: you laura um indeed i am very impressed with the report that's come out that shows the

[0:07:20] Voice 11: world's depth and breadth of understanding of the housing situation and a number of potential

[0:07:25] Voice 11: options available to us and i want to thank all of those members of that transport um if there's

[0:07:32] Voice 11: nothing further then i'll continue on to the first item is that we have some work to address which is

[0:07:40] Voice 11: the follow-up action list like 4.1 as stated october 22nd normally i

[0:07:47] Voice 11: turn uh chris to the

[0:07:48] Voice 11: regional finance to ask if there's any updates with respect to any of the items on the follow-up

[0:07:53] Voice 11: action list otherwise i'll go to trustees for questions do you have anything for us chris on

[0:07:58] Voice 11: the follow-up action list well

[0:07:59] Voice 6: i did want to just um talk about it a little bit this morning thank

[0:08:04] Voice 6: you chair leckham um i did go over it with our staff uh just before we published this agenda

[0:08:10] Voice 6: um and what i want to impress upon the local trust committee is that as you are likely aware we

[0:08:18] Voice 6: i'm i'm new to this position uh we currently have open positions for two new planners uh and we have

[0:08:26] Voice 6: uh two island planners and our admin team and our planning tech um and both our planning technicians

[0:08:33] Voice 6: have been has been working furiously to advance these all these projects and applications so

[0:08:39] Voice 6: but what we have done is we've assigned quite a bit of work I think you'll see a lot of

[0:08:45] Voice 6: changes from previous staff so for ongoing tasks a lot of those staff tasks have been

[0:08:51] Voice 6: on this list have been put on to Anthony I think especially Anthony Fortuno doing a lot of our

[0:08:59] Voice 6: development work so i just want to let you know that i think that what we're probably going to

[0:09:04] Voice 6: see over the next little while is some changes so i would say the list you're looking at today

[0:09:08] Voice 6: is probably not the list we're going to be looking at in december and january so i i really um

[0:09:13] Voice 6: i guess just be when it comes to that assignment list um as these things go forward and as we sort

[0:09:18] Voice 6: of work to prioritize the workload um we can expect to see that this will be a fairly dynamic

[0:09:23] Voice 6: uh assignment pattern until we get things sort of uh up to capacity

[0:09:31] Voice 11: Um, Justice, do you have any questions about any items on

[0:09:35] Voice 4: page 32 open?

[0:09:40] Voice 4: So it's item four.

[0:09:47] Voice 4: Um, I think this, I haven't been on the executive committee.

[0:09:51] Voice 4: This hasn't come through the executive committee to follow up with them as doing

[0:10:02] Voice 4: a pilot on salt spring, middle planning, um, point in the term.

[0:10:12] Voice 4: I don't know how this is good.

[0:10:13] Voice 4: I just don't want it to get lost.

[0:10:20] Voice 12: Yeah,

[0:10:20] Voice 11: at this juncture, we haven't

[0:10:22] Voice 12: received any of these business

[0:10:23] Voice 12: from any of the, this

[0:10:25] Voice 11: isn't a business case.

[0:10:26] Voice 4: this was just a motion they've directed to dc to follow up on their conversation with

[0:10:31] Voice 4: budget business i think the conversation occurred during the business case so

[0:10:40] Voice 11: perhaps that should be

[0:10:41] Voice 11: uh re-labeled just forwarded once again to executive so can i take it then by general

[0:10:57] Voice 11: consent and then record that uh item four on page 32 be renamed uh dandy village air advocacy

[0:11:06] Voice 11: and that it be forwarded to its expert.

[0:11:12] Voice 11: Thank you very much for putting that, Laura.

[0:11:15] Voice 11: Anything else on the follow-up action list?

[0:11:19] Voice 11: Okay, so that's good, thank you very much.

[0:11:22] Voice 11: So I'm gonna move on then

[0:11:24] Voice 11: to the report section of our agenda.

[0:11:26] Voice 11: We have the policy standing resolutions

[0:11:29] Voice 11: is there, list there for information,

[0:11:32] Voice 11: unless there's any questions or changes necessary.

[0:11:36] Voice 11: And I'm not seeing anything from the trustees,

[0:11:39] Voice 11: we'll continue on.

[0:11:40] Voice 11: so work program top priorities report again there for information um are we satisfied with top

[0:11:47] Voice 11: priorities laura patrick over here well

[0:11:49] Voice 4: i just wanted to follow up on you know i i know this

[0:11:53] Voice 4: this was on jason yeoman's uh plate and with him leaving the wildfire ecologist uh you know i know

[0:12:01] Voice 4: it was a rfp it was not successful um but i do know through i've been attending ongoing meetings

[0:12:09] Voice 4: on the mount maxwell project with transitions as well as the crd because the crd is doing their

[0:12:17] Voice 4: wildfire management plan the risk management

[0:12:19] Voice 1: plan whatever the

[0:12:20] Voice 4: title is sorry i don't have that

[0:12:22] Voice 4: properly on top of my head they've got their consultant diamond consulting i think their

[0:12:27] Voice 4: name working on that and they're going to be finished on salt spring soon and i know he was

[0:12:33] Voice 4: said that jonathan reimer from the crd was extremely impressed with the list of panel

[0:12:40] Voice 4: participants that ruth waldick had identified to do this this workshop and um so i just don't know

[0:12:48] Voice 4: where that sits there's conversations occurring with dr waldick and uh others on how we can get

[0:12:55] Voice 4: that workshop going because this this window of opportunity is closing rapidly with the crd

[0:13:02] Voice 4: consultant will be done yeah i think that's just another good panel member to have on the panel

[0:13:08] Voice 4: and

[0:13:09] Voice 5: ruth will be here but at lunchtime that's

[0:13:12] Voice 4: true she's trying to corner us

[0:13:16] Voice 4: she's trying to get the funding arranged to get the panel members in what's

[0:13:24] Voice 10: the objective here

[0:13:26] Voice 10: well i

[0:13:26] Voice 4: just don't know where the status of who's who who has that project who is working on the

[0:13:32] Voice 4: a wildfire workshop is anybody working on it did we give

[0:13:38] Voice 4: up hope so um we didn't we weren't

[0:13:43] Voice 4: successful in getting funding right well no we have funding we they went out to an rfp for a

[0:13:49] Voice 4: ecologist it was a very quick and short rfp and nobody responded um meanwhile ruth has identified

[0:13:57] Voice 4: by panelists that could come that are all the small dollar panelists and like said

[0:14:03] Voice 4: jonathan reimer agrees she has the right people identified to be on a panel

[0:14:08] Voice 4: um but somebody wants to retain them and pay them so

[0:14:12] Voice 10: should we be

[0:14:13] Voice 4: tendering that i i don't think

[0:14:16] Voice 4: it's the tendered i think it would be a direct award they're small dollars to a group of

[0:14:20] Voice 11: individual panelists so chris you have some recommendations there are you familiar enough

[0:14:24] Voice 11: with this to understand the question i

[0:14:31] Voice 2: think i'm i don't think i'm quite understanding exactly where

[0:14:34] Voice 6: this this fits so under what project are we are we discussing this or is this a okay working on

[0:14:51] Voice 4: was to do a a workshop this fall now um wildfire archaeology so um management practices and that

[0:15:03] Voice 4: That RFP went out back in June.

[0:15:09] Voice 4: How to get that workshop done.

[0:15:12] Voice 4: It was Jason Yeomans who's doing it.

[0:15:14] Voice 4: I know he's gone.

[0:15:15] Voice 6: Yeah.

[0:15:17] Voice 6: So Louisa has picked up the CDF project.

[0:15:24] Voice 6: My understanding, I'm not familiar with the workshop element of it.

[0:15:30] Voice 6: I know that we had talked about mapping work with the CRD.

[0:15:35] Voice 6: So I'm not too sure about this this workshop and panel, where it fits into the scope of the CDF project and what the, what the output of that would be towards that CDF project.

[0:15:59] Voice 11: So the project list now from October 2022 at 7.3 are any questions or concerns there?

[0:16:08] Voice 11: So now that brings us to applications with the status report.

[0:16:12] Voice 11: Are there any questions with respect to any of the applications listed there?

[0:16:18] Voice 11: anybody so expense report uh from july 2022 that's there for our information um and if you

[0:16:29] Voice 11: have any concerns best to bring them up with nancy rogers um so we'll just receive that for

[0:16:34] Voice 11: information the islands trust conservancy board report is the next item that's 7.6 let me catch

[0:16:42] Voice 11: to that. And we don't have well, maybe I'll just turn to Jillian Nichols. Can you, I usually

[0:16:57] Voice 11: just summarize the Island Social Report that's in here for the benefit of the public for

[0:17:01] Voice 11: the most part. And you feel like you want to address that or that the report on our

[0:17:09] Voice 11: agenda from the Island Social Conservancy?

[0:17:11] Voice 12: Oh, I'm not from the Conservancy though.

[0:17:13] Voice 12: So

[0:17:20] Voice 11: this, we have the report from the Office of Conservancy here.

[0:17:25] Voice 11: This report is on our agenda on a quarterly basis in order to draw attention to the work

[0:17:31] Voice 11: of the Conservancy.

[0:17:34] Voice 11: There is still an open position on the Conservancy board, and I think that's closed on Friday,

[0:17:44] Voice 11: and I understand there have been a couple of applicants perhaps for that position, so

[0:17:48] Voice 11: we're hopeful that will get filled.

[0:17:50] Voice 11: and the board will be returned to its uh whole configuration and um the strategic planning and

[0:17:59] Voice 11: administration is ongoing on the local perspective bylaw number 530 was reviewed by the conservancy

[0:18:07] Voice 11: and they had determined that their interests would be unexpected um there's ongoing covenant and

[0:18:14] Voice 11: and property acquisitions,

[0:18:16] Voice 11: NAFTA covenant on Lestige Island

[0:18:19] Voice 11: regarding Livingston property

[0:18:21] Voice 11: and some other work associated with

[0:18:28] Voice 11: covenants amendments has been ongoing.

[0:18:31] Voice 11: Lots of communications and outreach

[0:18:34] Voice 11: regarding the strategy and the three-year plan

[0:18:37] Voice 11: that's before us and also communications

[0:18:41] Voice 11: back and forth with Main Island on Fallow Deer,

[0:18:43] Voice 11: which is also an instance here on Salt Spring and fundraising continues we've

[0:18:51] Voice 11: allocated up to $5,000 in the ITC budget to support the nature reserve on

[0:18:57] Voice 11: Gambier Island so very pleased to be able to speak on behalf of the

[0:19:04] Voice 11: Conservancy here and look forward to the future. The next item on our agenda is the Salt

[0:19:13] Voice 11: now in watershed protection alliance coordinator's report um and i'll just turn to uh the chair

[0:19:20] Voice 11: laura patrick who wanted to provide an update on sure

[0:19:25] Voice 4: and the reports here for your information

[0:19:27] Voice 4: i think the most important thing that i know i could be impatiently waiting for is the uh

[0:19:33] Voice 4: strategic plan um we did have a a good conversation on it i'm really pleased really moved from being

[0:19:42] Voice 4: sort of apprehensive about the strategic plan to actually kind of getting excited about it and i

[0:19:46] Voice 4: think the main difference is this truly is a collaborative plan the staff from the various

[0:19:53] Voice 4: organizations from the security the ministry north salt spring waterworks and islands trust have been

[0:19:59] Voice 4: working closely together and our objective of ending up with a plan that actually has the logos

[0:20:05] Voice 4: those from those organizations on the front cover is looking uh realistic and uh eventually it's

[0:20:12] Voice 4: going to be achievable so i'm i think it's going to be exciting this plan really i think it's going

[0:20:17] Voice 4: to set a new stage of what collaborative planning can look like uh it's still you know for a number

[0:20:28] Voice 4: of reasons you know capacity probably being the largest it would have been really lovely to have

[0:20:32] Voice 4: of First Nations actively involved at this stage,

[0:20:34] Voice 4: but the plan will hopefully lay out

[0:20:37] Voice 4: how we as a group of organizations work

[0:20:41] Voice 4: to improve our ability to engage with First Nations

[0:20:45] Voice 4: in the various projects as they go forward.

[0:20:47] Voice 4: So it will leave us in a better place

[0:20:49] Voice 4: where we are today on engaging with First Nations

[0:20:53] Voice 4: in a more collaborative manner

[0:20:55] Voice 4: rather than individuals taking up more of their time

[0:20:59] Voice 4: from the past, which I'm excited.

[0:21:02] Voice 4: and I think a draft is coming.

[0:21:06] Voice 4: We should have it.

[0:21:07] Voice 4: Thank you.

[0:21:14] Voice 11: And thank you for sharing your thoughts

[0:21:17] Voice 11: about collaborating with the nations

[0:21:19] Voice 11: because indeed the future is working together

[0:21:22] Voice 13: to

[0:21:24] Voice 11: understand the lay of the land better.

[0:21:28] Voice 11: Let us move along to Housing Action Program Task Force,

[0:21:32] Voice 11: Chair's update.

[0:21:35] Voice 11: We've received their minutes of their meeting

[0:21:37] Voice 11: and the final report from them.

[0:21:39] Voice 11: I'm assuming that we weren't necessarily expecting a chair update today and do wonder about going

[0:21:48] Voice 11: forward because I think we've passed the committee the task force to stand down this month so

[0:21:53] Voice 11: maybe this doesn't need to be a standing item on the agenda.

[0:21:55] Voice 11: I think this

[0:21:57] Voice 11: isn't standing down during the election period so we'll maintain it on the

[0:22:06] Voice 11: They're not done.

[0:22:08] Voice 11: Well, no, for sure there's a lot more work, I think that maybe we're waiting for further

[0:22:14] Voice 11: direction from the future LTC.

[0:22:16] Voice 11: So that's fine, we'll just leave it on here and continue on.

[0:22:20] Voice 11: Are we

[0:22:21] Voice 11: accepting a report today?

[0:22:26] Voice 5: Send them a note expressing our appreciation.

[0:22:29] Voice 5: Do you want to

[0:22:34] Voice 11: make a motion to that effect?

[0:22:36] Voice 5: I move that the LTC drop the chair to express our appreciation of their work.

[0:23:03] Voice 11: Did you manage to capture that?

[0:23:11] Voice 12: Thank

[0:23:22] Voice 3: you very much.

[0:23:23] Voice 3: Thank you very much.

[0:23:40] Voice 3: what we look

[0:23:41] Voice 5: forward to future reports and i'm looking forward to their ongoing

[0:23:45] Voice 5: ongoing work appreciation

[0:23:50] Voice 3: for their work today okay so

[0:23:54] Voice 11: then that's moved that's secondary

[0:23:56] Voice 11: any discussion always in favor so that carries thank you so um we'll send that to the body

[0:24:02] Voice 11: via the chair of the uh second minister um let us continue on then so this now comes to referral

[0:24:14] Voice 11: for information and advice about they decided to move the plan back to three years from

[0:24:30] Voice 11: five years in order to be able to make it more achievable um and i'll just ask trust

[0:24:38] Voice 11: me if you have any questions or concerns about the report laura patrick i

[0:24:42] Voice 4: have no concerns

[0:24:43] Voice 4: i don't think we need to make this motion for one i don't want to make a motion saying

[0:24:46] Voice 4: our interests are unaffected i would say i would certainly hope that the conservancy's efforts are

[0:24:50] Voice 4: affecting our interests here on salt spring in a positive way um none of the other local

[0:24:56] Voice 4: trust committees responded with the referral response and we saw this at trust council so

[0:25:01] Voice 4: i think the motion is just not necessary or

[0:25:05] Voice 5: it could just be a supportive motion saying that

[0:25:08] Voice 5: so i mean i would say something but i

[0:25:13] Voice 11: would say because you want to make a motion or

[0:25:24] Voice 5: the request staff to respond to the referral of the Islands Trust Conservancy to the year

[0:25:28] Voice 5: plan 2020-2025 from the Islands Trust Conservancy.

[0:25:39] Voice 11: All those in favor?

[0:25:41] Voice 11: None opposed?

[0:25:42] Voice 11: That carries.

[0:25:43] Voice 11: Okay, here we have the work that we've been working on for some time, the development

[0:25:52] Voice 11: permit delegation.

[0:25:54] Voice 11: We have a staff report here and Chris, you'll present the report to us and then Steve may

[0:26:03] Voice 11: have some questions thanks

[0:26:05] Voice 6: um i'm happy to take you through it uh at a high level louisa prepared

[0:26:10] Voice 6: uh this is actually louisa's report so i'm not too sure if you want to defer consideration until

[0:26:15] Voice 6: louisa gets here or if you'd just like me to just walk you through it um but okay um

[0:26:47] Voice 4: being the only

[0:26:49] Voice 4: elected officials from Saltspring attending this

[0:26:52] Voice 3: year and I

[0:27:03] Voice 4: would then start explaining to them

[0:27:08] Voice 4: some of our issues and challenges and quickly realize that we were really no different.

[0:27:13] Voice 4: I think it's really critically important that Saltspring show up. That's what I always trust.

[0:27:25] Voice 4: We are a community of 12,000 people. We're a medium-sized community in this province.

[0:27:32] Voice 4: and we should show up to save the trustee.

[0:27:35] Voice 4: So I'm asking that, and I guess I didn't draft a motion,

[0:27:39] Voice 4: but I probably should, that we carry budget,

[0:27:42] Voice 4: make sure that the expense budget for two trustees

[0:27:46] Voice 4: go to EPCM next year.

[0:27:49] Voice 4: I don't know what that amount would be.

[0:27:51] Voice 4: Can somebody get that from, the record has been there.

[0:27:54] Voice 4: Yeah, so that's what I'm recommending

[0:27:59] Voice 4: is probably get a relation with the trustee.

[0:28:06] Voice 5: um yeah i you know i

[0:28:07] Voice 5: have um proud to say in my 11 years um and the other days um we were only

[0:28:17] Voice 5: i mean i think we should not have no idea what

[0:28:59] Voice 11: maybe others so i'm certainly in support of the

[0:29:02] Voice 11: motion utm is an amazing place for networking issues and um their benefits and as you've

[0:29:16] Voice 11: indicated um other assaulting members that have been by chairs in the class have attended but i

[0:29:23] Voice 11: I don't know that's been, and I think probably it's, you know, some of the magnitude of 3,000 or it is that I would say it's money well spent.

[0:29:45] Voice 4: It's not just the local trust. I think this is a chance to be arm in arm with the electoral area director from the CRD and show up as a peer.

[0:30:00] Voice 4: difference we are a group you know you look at the mayors and counselors and they kind of run around

[0:30:06] Voice 4: in a little pack at the ubcm but it's you know it's critically important and really helps the

[0:30:12] Voice 4: perspective of the issues that we're facing we're not alone and uh

[0:30:18] Voice 4: um and making those networks and

[0:30:22] Voice 4: the and the training is uh probably more exposure to issues and the uh you know what's being done to

[0:30:30] Voice 4: address them you get into details on so it's it's um it's not this is not a

[0:30:37] Voice 4: boondoggle this is a

[0:30:38] Voice 4: would be a working trip it's really about putting yourself straight to the map and getting the

[0:30:44] Voice 4: community to do it

[0:30:52] Voice 5: yeah um but we do in effect send two people to the crd director those and

[0:30:57] Voice 5: we've been sending one person from our community and i really

[0:31:02] Voice 5: it's really chair yeah

[0:31:08] Voice 5: the

[0:31:17] Voice 12: executive

[0:31:18] Voice 5: executive yes okay

[0:31:21] Voice 5: so that's that's the difference i'm

[0:31:39] Voice 4: proposing here i've always gone as island's trust i'm suggesting the trust anyway i'll make a motion

[0:32:01] Voice 4: please um i'll move i move that uh salt spring with the trust committee request staff to add

[0:32:15] Voice 4: budget.

[0:32:17] Voice 12: Allocation. Allocate budget.

[0:32:19] Voice 4: Allocate budget. I've

[0:32:27] Voice 8: got a text on the floor. Approximately

[0:32:32] Voice 8: said 800. This

[0:33:14] Voice 11: would be better on Sunday because it's an amazing opportunity. So I'm going to vote

[0:33:19] Voice 11: in favor. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Any opposed? One opposed? The back

[0:33:25] Voice 11: chair. So thank you very much. Everybody for the discussion. You're

[0:33:32] Voice 5: responsible. Yeah. I'm

[0:33:34] Voice 5: trying to control them as you're the chair of the commercial

[0:33:38] Voice 11: management oh that's

[0:33:40] Voice 11: a good idea

[0:33:41] Voice 11: okay

[0:33:42] Voice 5: so

[0:33:43] Voice 11: you know i just recognized that um lisa garbo uh finally lisa garbo has joined us and

[0:33:52] Voice 11: i'll just give her a moment to organize herself and we'll just continue on the agenda um through

[0:33:58] Voice 11: the meeting schedule section here and then we're going to come back we'll be set to a couple of

[0:34:02] Voice 11: items that we passed over for your input so the next item is the november meeting schedule

[0:34:08] Voice 11: um staff are recommending that we cancel the november 15th uh meeting um not and not proceed

[0:34:15] Voice 11: with arranging the quarterly meetings for the agriculture advisor planning commission

[0:34:18] Voice 11: and agricultural alliance and to notify the public accordingly um i'll just ask trustees if you have

[0:34:26] Voice 11: any concerns about that or you concur well

[0:34:28] Voice 4: i think people need to understand that there was a change

[0:34:31] Voice 4: change in

[0:34:31] Voice 4: meeting schedule that the meeting was initially proposed for November 1st 2nd and 3rd

[0:34:36] Voice 4: it's been rescheduled to the 17th 18th and 19th so there will be no new trustees on the 15th

[0:34:43] Voice 4: so yeah get

[0:34:47] Voice 4: a motion then to that effect

[0:34:48] Voice 5: I'm sorry go ahead and I just think it needs a bit

[0:34:50] Voice 5: more clarification because it looks a bit bleak I know um

[0:34:55] Voice 4: oh in the motion yeah maybe in due to

[0:34:59] Voice 4: the rescheduling

[0:35:00] Voice 13: of swearing in yes i

[0:35:01] Voice 4: moved at salt spring island local trust committee direct

[0:35:05] Voice 4: staff to cancel the november 15 2020 regular business meeting uh there as a result of the

[0:35:15] Voice 4: rescheduled trust council meeting as well as not to proceed with arrange ranging the quarterly

[0:35:21] Voice 4: special meeting in november with the agricultural advisory planning commission and the salt spring

[0:35:27] Voice 4: island agricultural alliance and to notify the public accordingly okay or

[0:35:32] Voice 4: maybe wherever it

[0:35:34] Voice 4: makes sense to put different rescheduling

[0:35:37] Voice 3: of the trust council i added that as a result

[0:35:41] Voice 3: so

[0:35:48] Voice 11: then i'll just call for both all those in favor so that carries you man

[0:35:54] Voice 11: louisa are you ready for us yes

[0:35:57] Voice 3: good hello good morning

[0:35:59] Voice 3: thank

[0:36:00] Voice 11: you for joining us i uh

[0:36:02] Voice 11: i just want to share with you uh um at the moment i i when i introduced chris hutton earlier i uh

[0:36:11] Voice 11: publicly acknowledged your commitment to the island's trust in stepping up at regional

[0:36:16] Voice 11: planning manager that was a life-saving commitment that you made for the honest trust and i just want

[0:36:24] Voice 11: to really appreciate that enormous job it was probably a lot bigger than you thought it was

[0:36:29] Voice 11: going to be and i am very thankful and i know the team from the lpc is thankful for your work thank

[0:36:36] Voice 3: you chair much appreciated um i i guess it was a pleasure and supported at the time yeah and but i've

[0:36:43] Voice 3: been doing the team thank

[0:36:50] Voice 11: you thank you appreciate

[0:36:51] Voice 11: that too so we had a question with

[0:36:56] Voice 11: respect to the uh wildfire flyer of wild uh workshop that was uh advanced and we didn't

[0:37:07] Voice 11: get any pending back to us on that you have a status on that uh project so

[0:37:13] Voice 13: it's

[0:37:14] Voice 11: on it's an

[0:37:15] Voice 11: under uh ecos coastal darkness for ecosystem page or section three page 61 i believe at the top

[0:37:26] Voice 11: of that section yeah I

[0:37:39] Voice 3: just in her and I haven't had a business case a charter in

[0:37:49] Voice 3: fact it is on my list

[0:37:51] Voice 13: tomorrow

[0:37:53] Voice 3: I dig into it and just kind of digest that my

[0:37:57] Voice 3: understanding is there's no bidder on the RFP so there is a goal as we did communicate about CRD

[0:38:11] Our RPM CRD

[0:38:19] Voice 3: for them to even tell us why they're and I will

[0:38:31] Voice 3: have a better.

[0:38:32] Voice 3: And

[0:38:37] Voice 11: I think Trustee Patrick has some thoughts with respect to Ruth Waldeck's work.

[0:38:42] Voice 11: And do you want to speak to that?

[0:38:43] Voice 4: Yeah, well, there's two things I understand.

[0:38:46] Voice 4: One is there's a mapping layer that could be available as a result of the CRD's wildfire risk hazard management planning,

[0:38:54] Voice 4: i

[0:38:54] Voice 10: mean whatever the name of that

[0:38:55] Voice 4: project is uh that that was something that was uh in in

[0:38:59] Voice 4: conversation of getting that data uh that would be valuable to us that they weren't able to use

[0:39:04] Voice 4: on their project and there was cost associated with that the second piece was the workshop for

[0:39:11] Voice 4: wildfire management practices and ruth waldwick will be here at noon today so i'm sure you probably

[0:39:17] Voice 4: talked to her directly that there was a she had looked at and that was this last item here

[0:39:22] Voice 4: here recorded about looking at direct awarding

[0:39:26] Voice 4: the wildfire ecologist.

[0:39:28] Voice 4: She has a panel of ecologists that are prepared

[0:39:30] Voice 4: to do the workshop.

[0:39:31] Voice 4: And I

[0:39:32] Voice 4: know Jonathan Reimer from CRD agreed

[0:39:34] Voice 4: that she had found the right people

[0:39:37] Voice 4: to do a workshop of that nature.

[0:39:39] Voice 4: It's just getting them paid to do the workshop

[0:39:43] Voice 4: was the issue.

[0:39:45] Voice 4: So I know Ruth will be here this afternoon

[0:39:47] Voice 4: and I strongly suggest not meeting in the middle.

[0:40:43] Voice 4: My suggestion is when Ruth is here later to talk directly with her because I'm third-party here.

[0:40:49] Voice 4: Yeah.

[0:40:50] Voice 4: We can

[0:41:09] Voice 11: discuss this later in new business if that's necessary

[0:41:12] Voice 4: or we can just make a little

[0:41:13] Voice 4: bit of information to do a resolution today.

[0:41:18] Voice 4: Okay.

[0:41:21] Voice 11: So let's bring this back up again later on before we adjourn today.

[0:41:25] Voice 11: Okay.

[0:41:26] Voice 11: So I think then that concluded that item.

[0:41:28] Voice 11: I think the next item on our list for Louisa is the Development Permit Delegation By-law.

[0:41:34] Voice 11: there's a staff report there um if you can introduce that i will look to trustees to

[0:41:40] Voice 12: give

[0:41:40] Voice 11: you a motion to advance that or not

[0:41:42] Voice 12: page 114. okay

[0:42:21] Voice 12: so just a delegation by law

[0:42:29] and

[0:42:30] Voice 3: the minister uh agreed and with this delegation request and amended the island

[0:42:43] Voice 3: access regulations to empower

[0:42:46] Voice 3: local trust committees to delegate the issuance of development

[0:42:49] Voice 3: permits to staff and this delegation of authority has long been provided to other jurisdictions

[0:42:56] Voice 3: and in dc except for out of trust so essentially this is just for an opportunity for us to

[0:43:06] Voice 3: to implement the legislation change

[0:43:08] Voice 3: to allow delegation of the development permissions to staff.

[0:43:14] Voice 3: The trust council adopted the policies

[0:43:18] Voice 3: and also the Island Trust leadership group

[0:43:23] Voice 3: developed the model by-law.

[0:43:26] Voice 3: So today before you is to get your support

[0:43:31] Voice 3: in developing the draft by-law

[0:43:34] Voice 3: all based on the model bylaw for the development permit and based on staff analysis we determined

[0:43:41] Voice 3: not all development permit areas are suitable for staff or administrative approval uh because most

[0:43:49] Voice 3: there are two of them the village and also development permit one and two um the village

[0:43:57] Voice 3: non-village monthly family commercial and general employment they based on some of the more

[0:44:03] Voice 3: more subjective criteria whereas the rest of the development permit area like the shorelines the

[0:44:11] Voice 3: lake wetlands uh community well capture zone steep slopes and soil erosion right area area protection

[0:44:19] Voice 3: those are the development permits three to seven require technical report by professional

[0:44:26] Voice 3: professional consultant or experts so those are more objective standards and so those are the ones

[0:44:33] Voice 3: that we recommend to be delegated to staff and the intent of that is to streamline the process and

[0:44:40] Voice 3: gain certainty to the development community and even the applicants and again uh the staff review

[0:44:48] Voice 3: view is still based on compliance with the OCP and the guidelines, and also the land use plan.

[0:44:58] Voice 12: I'm

[0:44:59] Voice 5: totally in favor of this, but if you could add the word to prepare a draft bylaw,

[0:45:06] Voice 5: would be very helpful for me. Oh yeah.

[0:45:08] Voice 5: In the motion? Yeah. Yeah,

[0:45:10] Voice 10: you can say that. And

[0:45:12] Voice 5: understanding that makes all the difference in the world to me. Laura Patrick? I

[0:45:20] Voice 4: absolutely agree

[0:45:20] Voice 4: I agree with delegating the .

[0:45:23] Voice 4: My concern is that they are very out of date.

[0:45:27] Voice 4: And even in the policies that are here on page 122,

[0:45:31] Voice 4: it says development permit areas.

[0:45:33] Voice 4: We can do them if development permit area provisions

[0:45:36] Voice 4: are relatively current.

[0:45:38] Voice 4: Some of these are 20 years old.

[0:45:41] Voice 4: So I'm fine with doing the delegation.

[0:45:44] Voice 4: But we need to make sure, term, as they're

[0:45:53] Voice 4: deciding their workload, that we've

[0:45:55] Voice 4: got to look at which development permit areas need

[0:45:57] Voice 4: to be updated um the lidar mapping and things that are available today are so much better than what

[0:46:03] Voice 4: was available 20 years ago when these were made so i am a bit concerned and i have heard complaints

[0:46:09] Voice 4: from people about this term that had repairing areas that went through the little houses and

[0:46:13] Voice 4: things so we've got some mistakes and um that warrant correction i mean i think they can it's

[0:46:23] Voice 4: chicken and egg i think we can give the authority or move this line that's the next question we can

[0:46:28] Voice 4: create the next committee will decide to approve this or not yeah um but we got to make sure this

[0:46:34] Voice 4: project's capital to update that's

[0:46:37] Voice 11: a good uh heads up so

[0:46:40] Voice 5: would you like to make a motion happy to

[0:46:42] Voice 5: with with that change so i move the salisbury and local trust committee request staff to

[0:46:46] Voice 5: prepare a draft bylaw that would delegate the issuance of development permits to staff for

[0:46:51] Voice 5: the following development permit areas within the salisbury island local official community plan

[0:46:55] Voice 5: and bylaw number 434,2008, A, development permit area 3,

[0:47:02] Voice 5: development permit area 4, development permit area 5,

[0:47:05] Voice 5: development permit area 6, and development permit area 7.

[0:47:10] Voice 5: Move

[0:47:12] Voice 11: to add a seconder.

[0:47:13] Voice 11: Laura Patrick, thank you.

[0:47:15] Voice 11: Any further discussion?

[0:47:17] Voice 11: All those in favor?

[0:47:18] Voice 11: That carries unanimously.

[0:47:20] Voice 11: And you got that one word that was added.

[0:47:21] Voice 11: Thank you very much.

[0:47:24] Voice 4: Projects list.

[0:47:28] Oh,

[0:47:32] Voice 12: I don't know. I have to go back and look at that for

[0:47:46] Voice 11: the term report.

[0:47:47] Voice 11: Yeah, I've got that in front of me, and the project was just there.

[0:47:53] Voice 11: So do you want to just – well, should we just go through this report,

[0:47:57] Voice 11: and then if we want to add something to the project, so we can –

[0:48:01] Voice 11: Okay. So, Louisa Garbo, do you want to speak to this report?

[0:48:05] Voice 11: I

[0:48:07] Voice 3: guess I'd prefer to.

[0:48:09] Voice 3: Chris,

[0:48:14] Voice 11: how would you like to proceed on this one?

[0:48:16] Voice 6: I think Louisa prepared this report.

[0:48:19] Voice 6: I'm happy to have her provide a summary of it.

[0:48:22] Voice 6: So

[0:48:26] Voice 3: essentially, I don't have an actual presentation because this is just a summary of the work

[0:48:33] Voice 3: that the trustee has done over the past four years.

[0:48:37] Voice 3: Because I started kind of toward the later part of your term, so a lot of it is put together

[0:48:46] Voice 3: by the whole team.

[0:48:47] Voice 3: i'm happy to answer any questions uh and uh it's essentially asking the trustees to make

[0:48:55] Voice 3: a recommendation to the incoming uh local trust committee uh to consider the top priority projects

[0:49:04] Voice 3: that we provide and um essentially other main projects the dangers uh area time the hosting

[0:49:14] Voice 3: in action program the cdf project and the water sustainability

[0:49:18] Voice 12: just one comment i like to make

[0:49:27] Voice 3: that to make earlier about the development permit area we're fully aware of it because we are the

[0:49:34] Voice 3: ones who struggle when we try to work with the

[0:49:37] Voice 3: applicants not a lot of clarity sometimes and

[0:49:40] Voice 3: and in some areas kind of weak and it's like we definitely should ask for those reports but the

[0:49:47] Voice 3: guidelines say maybe so those are the things that we will consider and the under the umbrella of

[0:49:55] Voice 3: housing action program we are saying we need a major ocp amendment but when we crack open the ocp

[0:50:03] Voice 3: there are lots of chapters we're going to look at and so this will be something that i would

[0:50:10] Voice 12: definitely and the attachments here are chapter

[0:50:18] Voice 11: one and two which is the truck priorities and the

[0:50:22] Voice 11: projects list and so i guess the question here then louise says whether or not the ltc wishes

[0:50:29] Voice 11: to amend by removing or altering any of those items that are on either of those lists and then

[0:50:35] Voice 11: endorse that to go forward to the future ltc so trustees do you have any suggestions

[0:50:57] Voice 4: I think it's a good report to have, but I think it should be complete, and I know there's

[0:51:09] Voice 4: a few things missing, things that were done this term.

[0:51:18] Voice 4: that i think could be should be captured um i also encourage that we note significant community

[0:51:28] Voice 4: led initiatives that affected our work for example the climate action plan that

[0:51:33] Voice 4: was done by the

[0:51:33] Voice 4: community and the area farm plan that was done by the community to make a significant piece that

[0:51:39] Voice 4: affected you know our direction that we

[0:51:42] Voice 12: made in this term um i

[0:51:49] Voice 4: i'm happy i think i think maybe

[0:51:51] Voice 4: just the notations i could share with boys because i think just making sure the report

[0:51:55] Voice 4: captures what i what i see is missing i don't think i could go through it because this is not

[0:51:59] Voice 4: what they're being asked to endorse this list of the history they're

[0:52:05] Voice 5: only being asked to endorse

[0:52:06] Voice 5: this the priority

[0:52:08] Voice 4: these reports not this one so we're

[0:52:10] Voice 5: being asked yeah of

[0:52:12] Voice 4: course the top priority

[0:52:13] Voice 4: okay

[0:52:17] Voice 12: yeah

[0:52:18] Voice 4: so you're right you're right yeah so i think i could just give them my notes that i

[0:52:22] Voice 4: yeah cat captures that we've had some additions and things do

[0:52:29] Voice 5: you want to just briefly tell us

[0:52:30] Voice 5: what they are oh

[0:52:31] Voice 4: i had well under water sustainability we do fund uh the first

[0:52:36] Voice 4: water recharge that was done that came from the local trust city not a federal

[0:52:40] Voice 4: okay yeah remember that that was

[0:52:41] Voice 3: way back so so there were

[0:52:44] Voice 3: finer things would you like those to be

[0:52:53] Voice 3: Yeah,

[0:52:57] Voice 11: I was going to say, you know, it's kind of interesting in that, in fact, the title

[0:53:02] Voice 11: of this report threw me off a bit because it's the LTC term summary report, which is

[0:53:06] Voice 11: that, Laura, that's what you're referring to as that object.

[0:53:10] Voice 11: But the purpose of this report is to understand the top priorities list and the projects list,

[0:53:15] Voice 11: which we do on a regular basis throughout the term.

[0:53:18] Voice 11: and this is the opportunity to pass that projects list and priority list onto the next ltc but

[0:53:26] Voice 11: certainly this has its its own validity that is broader than just the top priorities and the

[0:53:33] Voice 11: projects list although it may have been directed by some of the work that we're doing so i think

[0:53:39] Voice 11: louisa is right that if we want to alter the report we should capture that in a minute so

[0:53:44] Voice 11: So point by point, perhaps, if you can just recite that so

[0:53:48] Voice 11: that Sarah can capture it.

[0:53:54] Voice 4: So under the first

[0:53:56] Voice 12: item, then, water sustainability,

[0:53:59] Voice 12: we funded phase

[0:54:10] Voice 4: one of the groundwater recharge mapping

[0:54:15] Voice 4: project, to get a fancier name for it.

[0:54:18] Voice 4: It's the first one ever done in the

[0:54:19] Voice 12: entire ..

[0:54:22] Voice 12: You're capturing that?

[0:54:32] Voice 4: Under the top of the next page, the contemporary experiments

[0:54:35] Voice 4: it's a secondary seat in the cottages that also included trailers of that version

[0:54:43] Voice 4: i think that

[0:54:49] Voice 12: got combined into two things combined

[0:55:07] Voice 4: into one we had a strategic

[0:55:13] Voice 4: the strategic planning exercise we did

[0:55:16] Voice 4: that generated some reports.

[0:55:18] Voice 4: Then there was an OCP review recommended

[0:55:22] Voice 4: to look at the strategic items.

[0:55:26] Voice 4: It just sounds like we considered five staff reports

[0:55:33] Voice 4: over 10 months to do an OCP review, which wasn't true.

[0:55:36] Voice 4: We only considered the OCP review for two months,

[0:55:38] Voice 4: but we did a strategic planning exercise

[0:55:41] Voice 4: at the end of the plan, took 10 months.

[0:55:43] Voice 4: that makes sense so i think it's just that just needs to be shown that those are

[0:55:51] Voice 11: have you managed

[0:55:52] Voice 12: to capture that that those chickpeas are planning an ocp review should

[0:55:56] Voice 12: be two separate items yes okay yes they were um the action program

[0:56:20] Voice 4: i think we should note

[0:56:21] Voice 4: the working group there was a housing housing working group and report

[0:56:25] Voice 12: as well

[0:56:29] Voice 12: Is that the task force?

[0:56:35] Voice 12: No.

[0:56:37] Voice 3: Add housing, working group, and reports.

[0:56:42] Voice 3: Add housing, working group, and reports?

[0:56:45] Voice 12: Yeah.

[0:56:45] Voice 12: Well,

[0:56:45] Voice 3: it should be one bullet.

[0:56:46] Voice 3: Housing, working group, and reports.

[0:56:49] Voice 12: Because they provide the report, but we can't.

[0:56:51] Voice 12: The Housing Action Program.

[0:57:07] Voice 12: Okay.

[0:57:08] Voice 12: Thank you very much.

[0:57:09] Voice 11: So that captures that for the minutes for staff consideration.

[0:57:15] Voice 3: Could I just go over my long list?

[0:57:16] Voice 3: Yeah, please.

[0:57:16] Voice 3: Okay.

[0:57:17] Voice 3: That looks like it.

[0:57:18] Voice 3: The following items should be added to the report.

[0:57:20] Voice 3: Under water sustainability,

[0:57:22] Voice 3: add funded phase one of the groundwater

[0:57:23] Voice 3: recharge mapping projects.

[0:57:26] Voice 3: Under temporary use permits,

[0:57:27] Voice 3: the secondary station cottages

[0:57:29] Voice 3: include recreational vehicles.

[0:57:32] Voice 3: Under strategic planning, OCD review,

[0:57:35] Voice 3: the DCD would be preferred items.

[0:57:37] Voice 3: Housing action item, add housing working group and report.

[0:57:40] Voice 3: Add the climate action plan and add the area plan.

[0:57:43] Voice 3: I think there's

[0:57:44] Voice 4: no I think there's no two major community initiatives something like that just

[0:57:50] Voice 4: because I think you know it wasn't work of ours but it certainly influenced our work all along

[0:57:56] Voice 4: add

[0:57:57] Voice 3: the climate action plan and the area farm front as two major community issues initially

[0:58:01] Voice 3: yeah uh so chair I'm wondering instead of saying to add to the report again we're not revising the

[0:58:10] Voice 3: report and pre-signed it so maybe just stating that these are the items that we listened from

[0:58:16] Voice 3: the report to have it on the minute yeah okay yes

[0:58:21] Voice 12: okay okay

[0:58:23] Voice 11: so then um back to my original

[0:58:29] Voice 11: question the top priorities list and the projects list is there any necessity to amend this before

[0:58:34] Voice 11: before we endorse it for the incoming local trust committee.

[0:58:39] Voice 11: Laura Patrick.

[0:58:41] Voice 4: Well, I guess

[0:58:41] Voice 12: there,

[0:58:47] Voice 4: I think what's important,

[0:58:50] Voice 4: if we got so much work done

[0:58:52] Voice 4: toward building good partnerships

[0:58:55] Voice 4: and the idea of going to the wildfire protection DPA,

[0:58:59] Voice 4: it is listed here as existing,

[0:59:03] Voice 4: but certainly hope that the new trust committee,

[0:59:08] Voice 4: committee, whomever they are, will keep that work. I mean, I think there's really valuable

[0:59:13] Voice 4: momentum occurring with that project. I just want to make sure that that doesn't get lost.

[0:59:22] Voice 12: It's not really about what was done.

[0:59:32] Voice 4: There's no longer, there used to be a little description

[0:59:35] Voice 4: as to what the project kind of was.

[0:59:37] Voice 4: That

[0:59:38] Voice 10: is, oh, I see the actions that are listed.

[0:59:41] Voice 4: Yeah, these are kind of what has happened.

[0:59:44] Voice 11: still on the list

[0:59:45] Voice 12: yeah it's kind

[0:59:48] Voice 4: of there but it's

[0:59:49] Voice 12: just going to be

[0:59:56] Voice 4: item number one of ocp

[0:59:59] Voice 4: in a minute.

[1:00:00] Voice 4: to add a review and update of development permit areas i think we have to do that as a motion yeah

[1:00:08] Voice 11: that makes the most sense yes and it would be a motion all

[1:00:12] Voice 4: right i'm i move that the

[1:00:13] Voice 4: salt spring island local trust committee and then projects report and add review and update

[1:00:21] Voice 4: of development permit areas under item one move

[1:00:26] Voice 11: seconded that's just the growth thank you

[1:00:29] Voice 11: any further discussion all those in favor so that carries so that projects list will be amended

[1:00:38] Voice 11: and then that will be what we will be forwarding to the future ltc is there anything else you

[1:00:46] Voice 12: so if not then a motion would be terrific as

[1:00:59] Voice 11: amended i

[1:01:01] Voice 4: move that the salt spring island

[1:01:02] Voice 4: local trust committee endorse the top priorities list and projects list as amended

[1:01:08] Voice 4: it for further consideration by the incoming local trustee i

[1:01:12] Voice 11: second that move and seconded

[1:01:14] Voice 11: any further discussion all those in favor make it very unanimously excellent good thank you very

[1:01:21] Voice 11: much everybody um so now i think that completes the stuff that we skipped over and that brings us

[1:01:30] Voice 11: now to profile proposed bylaw number five to six farm worker housing and this is here for

[1:01:37] Voice 11: consideration of fourth reading after we've been returned to us from executive committee

[1:01:42] Voice 11: and uh i'll turn it to uh staff to uh to speak to that and i just gotta get caught up here

[1:01:53] Voice 11: i'm seeing it here oh that's in the amendment in the uh addendum to the agenda passage

[1:02:00] Voice 11: there we go all right well we said garbo um this is your report so i'll turn it over to you thank

[1:02:12] Voice 3: Thank you, Chair. I don't really have a lot more to ask in their way of information post-public hearing, and thank you.

[1:02:23] So,

[1:02:32] Voice 11: there's a motion there. Do you wish to advance this adoption?

[1:02:37] Voice 11: I

[1:02:41] Voice 5: move that the Salt Spring Antelope Trust Committee adopts proposed bylaw number 526, cited as Salt Spring Island and Andrews bylaw number B55-1999, amendment number 2021.

[1:02:51] Voice 11: Moved by the second vote. Trustee Patrick, does anybody wish to speak for us?

[1:02:54] Voice 11: well very good then so then i'll call the vote all those in favor that carries unanimously well

[1:03:02] Voice 11: that's a big moment here i can see

[1:03:04] Voice 5: very big moment for the the last um um

[1:03:10] Voice 11: and this aligns the lpc

[1:03:12] Voice 11: bylaws with amendments um from the agricultural land commission um in support of farm worker

[1:03:19] Voice 11: housing so i want to thank all the staff louisa for all of the work in getting this to us and

[1:03:24] Voice 11: and hopefully we'll see bylaw 560 come back

[1:03:27] Voice 11: and minister sometime in the near future.

[1:03:29] Voice 3: Definitely need to thank the planners

[1:03:32] Voice 3: who've been working on that.

[1:03:34] Voice 3: Well,

[1:03:35] Voice 11: and indeed a significant contribution

[1:03:39] Voice 11: to the betterment of the community, I think.

[1:03:44] Voice 11: All right, so that actually,

[1:03:45] Voice 11: we don't have a closed meeting today.

[1:03:47] Voice 11: So that concludes our morning session.

[1:03:50] Voice 11: And so we are now going to recess until noon.

[1:03:56] Voice 11: and at noon we will be starting off with Community Stewardship Awards followed by

[1:04:03] Voice 11: a thank you to Peter Grofers for 11 years of service and then we'll be going into

[1:04:08] Voice 11: trustee reports, chair reports, correspondence and we have a single

[1:04:14] Voice 11: delegation here today from Dean Clark, Spokesperson for Community Residence of

[1:04:18] Voice 11: Canvas Back. So let us recess and we'll reconvene at noon. Do

[1:04:23] Voice 5: we need to script

[1:04:24] Voice 5: the Community Stewardship Awards at all?

[1:04:26] Voice 5: Do we know what we're doing?

[1:04:27] Voice 11: We're going to figure that out right now.

[1:04:30] Voice 11: Thank you.

[1:04:32] Voice 13: Okay,

[1:04:33] Voice 11: so recess and we'll stop recording

[1:04:35] Voice 11: and all that live streaming stuff.

[2:30:54] Voice 12: how are we looking are we getting started okay

[2:37:58] Voice 11: so um welcome everybody to the afternoon portion of

[2:38:01] Voice 11: the salt spring island local trust committee um we've uh met this morning and conducted some

[2:38:08] Voice 11: administrative work and uh passed the bylaw adopted bylaw number 526 reviewed some of our

[2:38:16] Voice 11: other work my name is peter lockem i'm elected on fetus island in the uh penelaket and laxon

[2:38:22] Voice 11: territory. It's a pleasure every day to wake up in this Coast Salish territory and be cognizant

[2:38:29] Voice 11: of the rich history and culture that is here. And the opportunities exist for us to learn

[2:38:34] Voice 11: about the Coast Salish people that have lived here since time immemorial.

[2:38:39] Voice 11: Today, a little bit more of a formal, this afternoon at the beginning here in the more

[2:38:43] Voice 11: public facing session, a little bit more of a formal opportunity to celebrate. And we're here

[2:38:49] Voice 11: to celebrate today and I'll do introductions of everybody when I'm finished doing the celebration

[2:38:56] Voice 11: part of it. Celebrating today for the Community Stewardship Awards. The Community Stewardship

[2:39:02] Voice 11: Awards is something that we've been facilitating for about 20 years now, 2002. A number of people

[2:39:11] Voice 11: throughout the Islands Trust Area have received the recognition of the work that they have done

[2:39:17] Voice 11: on in their communities that supports and advances

[2:39:20] Voice 11: the Islands Trust Preserve and Protect mandate.

[2:39:22] Voice 11: And it's a real honor and privilege for me here today

[2:39:25] Voice 11: on Salt Spring to be able to facilitate this

[2:39:27] Voice 11: and an honor to be able to recognize the people

[2:39:30] Voice 11: that have received the awards here on Salt Spring today.

[2:39:34] Voice 11: We get nominations from all over the Islands Trust area.

[2:39:39] Voice 11: All of the islands have been represented

[2:39:41] Voice 11: over the years for awards.

[2:39:43] Voice 11: And so today it's three people that we're going to,

[2:39:45] Voice 11: to two people in one organization

[2:39:47] Voice 11: that we're going to recognize here today.

[2:39:51] Voice 11: So the first person that I'm honored

[2:39:54] Voice 11: to provide the award to is Case Roos

[2:39:58] Voice 11: from Salt Spring Island for 14 years of community service.

[2:40:03] Voice 11: And Case Roos is being nominated

[2:40:06] Voice 11: for 14 years of community service,

[2:40:08] Voice 11: including efforts as a volunteer warden, board member,

[2:40:12] Voice 11: and chair for nonprofit organizations

[2:40:15] Voice 11: on Salt Spring Island.

[2:40:16] Voice 11: Through extensive volunteer work with numerous organizations,

[2:40:20] Voice 11: PACE has demonstrated a strong commitment to preserving and protecting

[2:40:23] Voice 11: Salt Spring Islands' natural environment.

[2:40:26] Voice 11: So I'm honored to be able to provide this foreboard today.

[2:40:30] Voice 11: Thank you very much.

[2:40:36] Voice 11: Well, thank you very much.

[2:40:38] Voice 11: Okay, thank you.

[2:40:39] Voice 11: If you have any personal remarks you'd like to make.

[2:40:42] Voice 11: Thank

[2:40:42] Voice 5: you, PACE.

[2:40:44] Voice 5: And we're going

[2:40:44] Voice 10: to do pictures next time.

[2:40:47] Voice 5: I've known

[2:40:47] Voice 5: you for a long time now.

[2:40:48] Voice 10: Thank you very much. I'm quite honored to receive this award. I should also mention that I've been doing this kind of work for quite a few years, and I know there are hundreds, if not thousands of people on this island that are doing a lot of volunteer work, kind of on behalf of them. Thank you very much.

[2:41:11] Voice 10: thank

[2:41:11] Voice 11: you next award is for dr ruth waldeck but i'll maybe perhaps just put that um

[2:41:23] Voice 11: at the end um and we might just have to acknowledge her work in her absence we're

[2:41:30] Voice 11: hoping that she will show up today so then the next award is for the uh creation of the

[2:41:36] Voice 11: sustainable cemetery um that protects forest lands it's the natural cemetery ssi inc this is maybe

[2:41:49] Voice 11: Okay, thank you for that clarification. The Salt Spring Island Natural Cemetery. I got

[2:41:54] Voice 11: it now. So it's a certified conservation green burial cemetery located in the Burgoyne Valley,

[2:42:01] Voice 11: providing a sustainable burial option on protected forest lands. This is the first certified

[2:42:07] Voice 11: conservation green burial cemetery open to the public in Canada. Since the cemetery's

[2:42:12] Voice 11: opening in 2020 there have been 18 internments salt spring island natural cemetery contributes

[2:42:19] Voice 11: to the saya learning society to further the goal of strengthening cultural relationships to the land

[2:42:26] Voice 11: and water of the kwakwum village so i want to uh catherine um i'm gonna make a valentine um thank

[2:42:37] Voice 11: you uh ask you up here to accept the reward for the senator my understanding

[2:43:07] Voice 7: is that there are

[2:43:07] Voice 7: i think i'm

[2:43:34] Voice 11: going to uh just uh do the presentation for uh ruth waldeck in her absence

[2:43:45] Voice 11: So this final award is for Dr. Ruth Waldach of Salt Spring Island in recognition of building

[2:43:53] Voice 11: Lake Maxwell's watershed resiliency and forest fire resistance.

[2:43:58] Voice 11: Dr. Waldach is a champion for and key organizer of a collaborative climate action project

[2:44:04] Voice 11: to build Lake Maxwell's watershed resilience and forest fire resistance by protecting forest

[2:44:09] Voice 11: health.

[2:44:10] Voice 11: Ruth has brought together diverse organizations to develop and initiate this flagship climate

[2:44:16] Voice 11: adaption project to protect and restore coastal Douglas fir ecosystems on Salt Spring Island.

[2:44:21] Voice 11: With her leadership the joint project has attracted world-class researchers and scientists,

[2:44:26] Voice 11: many of whom are donating their time and has received federal government funding as well as

[2:44:32] Voice 11: donations from private donors. I really want to thank Ruth for that fantastic work in protecting

[2:44:38] Voice 11: protecting our watersheds and resiliency for enforcement.

[2:44:42] Voice 11: We

[2:45:07] Voice 4: can with that project.

[2:45:09] Voice 12: Thank you.

[2:45:11] Voice 11: So what we'll do is just recess for a few minutes

[2:45:14] Voice 11: for some photo opportunities outside.

[2:45:16] Voice 11: And there's some coffee and some treats there.

[2:45:19] Voice 11: So please help yourselves and then we'll reconvene the meeting.

[2:53:44] Voice 11: Gary Coleman.

[2:53:49] Voice 11: One last moment of celebration is certainly some of us

[2:53:53] Voice 11: are running for re-election.

[2:53:55] Voice 11: Peter Grove is stepping back one more time.

[2:54:01] Voice 11: But we

[2:54:02] Voice 1: want to acknowledge

[2:54:02] Voice 11: the service that returns responsibilities and

[2:54:47] Voice 5: I have to say

[2:54:58] Voice 5: last year it's been probably the most meaningful and company I have enjoyed enormously.

[2:56:25] Voice 5: It

[2:56:27] Voice 10: took

[2:56:27] Voice 5: a while and more importantly really in so many ways is the wonderful staff.

[2:56:35] Voice 5: I don't know where the Islands Trust finds its staff, but they are wonderful people.

[2:56:41] Voice 5: And sadly, a lot of those who meant a lot to me have now left.

[2:56:46] Voice 5: But I do want to acknowledge Stefan Cermak, who was our regional planning manager for many years, and probably top of my list is Sarah Schumann.

[2:57:00] Voice 5: I mean, she's always been there smiling and cheering us all along, and she's been an absolute joy to be around.

[2:57:08] Voice 5: and rob pringle you picked up some the traces and uh it's been great um not really part of

[2:57:16] Voice 5: the island's trust but a group that's actually been very important to me has been the driftwood

[2:57:22] Voice 5: um always there always in the front row never missed a never missed a meeting almost never

[2:57:30] Voice 5: anyway a few times but um i've so enjoyed um my involvement which really has been on the periphery

[2:57:38] Voice 5: of course, but their reporting has been fair and complete and I've appreciated them. Gail Schuberg,

[2:57:45] Voice 5: of course, Elizabeth Nolan, and now Rob Magley. So lastly, I do want to say that I remain

[2:57:57] Voice 5: a firm believer in the Islands Trust. I think it's a wonderful organization. I think it

[2:58:02] Voice 5: serves an important role. And for those of you who are making notes, this has got nothing to

[2:58:08] Voice 5: do with incorporation or not it's the islands trust the role that it plays um it's uh my wife

[2:58:16] Voice 5: and i now have a little tampa and we're exploring the island and bc and without exception um the

[2:58:25] Voice 5: rural communities are surrounded by commercial sprawl and i don't think it's a coincidence

[2:58:32] Voice 5: incidents that we have avoided that to a large degree so i do think the islands trust plays a

[2:58:39] Voice 5: very important role and by the way um the islands trust is run by um passionate hard-working

[2:58:46] Voice 5: committed and competent people with whom i have been um honored to serve so it's a fine organization

[2:58:56] Voice 5: so I am so grateful that I'm not running this time the whole concept of of running for office

[2:59:08] Voice 5: is a bit of a nightmare I support and give my best wishes to Gary and to Laura I'm pretty

[2:59:17] Voice 5: confident we'll see we're confident that we will see them back in the saddle but I have enjoyed

[2:59:23] Voice 5: their company and um traditionally in for me anyway i um end this sort of meeting with a

[2:59:31] Voice 5: song and i'm not going to sing a song this time but i am going to say so long farewell

[2:59:36] Voice 5: thank you well

[2:59:48] Voice 11: um thank you very much peter um indeed um i can echo that

[2:59:53] Voice 11: there's no work more honorable to do than working with people and communities

[2:59:59] Voice 11: Absolutely.

[3:00:00] Voice 11: so thank you let us uh continue on then with our our work before us and the first item will be

[3:00:06] Voice 11: trustee reports and and perhaps um we'll start with uh laura patrick today and let you follow up

[3:00:14] Voice 11: and then we'll come here together sure

[3:00:18] Voice 4: uh you guys share already this is only my second election and

[3:00:25] Voice 4: that's interesting and i think probably the most interesting is when you read stories about

[3:00:31] Voice 4: about yourself and you go that's not true so i wanted to to take this time just to remind a

[3:00:37] Voice 4: couple of things in particular bylaw 530 which seems to have a lot of information and i went

[3:00:42] Voice 4: back in my the notes that i read when um i had a very lengthy set of comments when bylaw 528

[3:00:49] Voice 4: was the sweets bylaw which just preceded bylaw 530 was about and i had said the objective was

[3:00:57] Voice 4: was to cast a wide net across the island

[3:01:00] Voice 4: in search of people willing to be landlords,

[3:01:03] Voice 4: that the building support may require

[3:01:06] Voice 4: demonstrating successful working examples.

[3:01:09] Voice 4: One way to do this is through phasing in best practices

[3:01:12] Voice 4: with additional oversight.

[3:01:13] Voice 4: And this can be achieved by limiting the number of units.

[3:01:17] Voice 4: And I said, let's collect and analyze data

[3:01:20] Voice 4: to determine the development capacity

[3:01:22] Voice 4: for accessory dwelling units and overall get a picture

[3:01:25] Voice 4: of what's going on on the island's housing uh and i said let's establish a target level of

[3:01:32] Voice 4: percentage rented and owned uh affordable housing units uh in the total housing stock and this is

[3:01:39] Voice 4: actually a commitment gary in the ocp that says we're going to do that with the crd set that

[3:01:43] Voice 4: percentage target so i think that's a objective we need to do in cooperation with the crd

[3:01:49] Voice 4: and i said let's do a better job engaging the community and i talked about the effects on the

[3:01:58] Voice 4: community of not having the housing and how who

[3:02:02] Voice 12: is

[3:02:03] Voice 4: is um not being housed and how that's going to

[3:02:08] Voice 4: affect all of us because we need our workforce on this island and that we are um a smart and

[3:02:17] Voice 4: dedicated island that should be solving this issue because it affects all of us and um that we need

[3:02:27] Voice 4: to have islanders housing islanders the other thing that's going around is on the vortex they

[3:02:32] Voice 4: said oh we ignored staff is what they say um it's absolutely not true we get staff reports the same

[3:02:40] Voice 4: time you do the public we don't get to see them any sooner and i can tell you the entire week

[3:02:45] Voice 4: that we had that staff report I worked very closely with Jason yeomans who is

[3:02:49] Voice 4: here dissecting every word of that report understanding what was being

[3:02:54] Voice 4: asked how how we could move forward what what was it and the studies and things

[3:03:00] Voice 4: that were recommended by staff are included as as contingencies are in the

[3:03:05] Voice 4: in the in the permit so they were put into the permit the other that's going

[3:03:11] Voice 4: going around as it says, ah, we voted against trust council

[3:03:16] Voice 4: making, and that was a, there was a trust council motion

[3:03:19] Voice 4: that was affirming its understanding

[3:03:21] Voice 4: that the environment was paramount in all decisions.

[3:03:27] Voice 4: And that was voted down.

[3:03:29] Voice 4: But what they don't say is there was another motion

[3:03:31] Voice 4: that was voted in.

[3:03:33] Voice 4: And that motion was that trust council affirms

[3:03:35] Voice 4: its understanding, the preservation and protection

[3:03:38] Voice 4: of the natural terrestrial and marine environment

[3:03:40] Voice 4: is central to the mandate of the islands trust and that the responsibility must be given special

[3:03:46] Voice 4: and profound consideration in all decisions that we do it's a big difference and and the reason i

[3:03:54] Voice 4: know uh on the the paramountcy was that we are communities we're going to have to make decisions

[3:04:00] Voice 4: and while we'd always want environment to be first and foremost there may be circumstances

[3:04:04] Voice 4: that we have to consider and that's why central was was was voted as the way to approach that

[3:04:12] Voice 4: um i think you know as as a trustee i've always understood the mandate of the trust to mean i

[3:04:20] Voice 4: have a responsibility toward our constituency and the environment and that we're different than

[3:04:27] Voice 4: every other local government british columbia because we have a statutory obligation to the

[3:04:32] Voice 4: the environment in addition to all the other obligations it's an addition so uh yeah i really

[3:04:41] Voice 4: feel people in place are interconnected and that we need integrated solutions to address the

[3:04:46] Voice 4: challenges we face on salt spring and i'm committed to place-based multi-generational

[3:04:51] Voice 4: sustainability that addresses equity diversity and inclusion in meaningful ways and we'll see

[3:05:00] Voice 4: you find them over you

[3:05:03] Voice 10: no i

[3:05:05] Voice 5: think i've said my bit thank you so

[3:05:09] Voice 11: uh from the chair's uh perspective um

[3:05:14] Voice 11: don't end up getting a lot of hands-on work on uh sal spring but certainly do a lot of work uh

[3:05:19] Voice 11: federation-wise and indeed with laura patrick who also sits on uh executive committee um the

[3:05:26] Voice 11: highlight of the last uh month was attending ubcm on on behalf of um of the of the island's trust

[3:05:33] Voice 11: and and to some extent uh salt spring island a great opportunity to talk to our colleagues

[3:05:38] Voice 11: throughout local government in british columbia and have opportunities to meet with ministers

[3:05:43] Voice 11: to talk about issues that are pressing and important to the island's trust

[3:05:47] Voice 11: and garner support from the pro from all governments in british columbia for motions

[3:05:53] Voice 11: and work that we've taken to UBCM to lobby the provincial government for which all three of the

[3:05:59] Voice 11: items that we brought forward were endorsed by the membership and therefore taken to the province

[3:06:06] Voice 11: to ask for support. I'm not going to try and paraphrase those at the moment but a successful

[3:06:14] Voice 11: On the week of September 2021-22, we had our trust council meeting, the final council of this term, and of course, with that said, there's been much work in preparation for the transition to a new council, a new executive committee that is the responsibility of the executive committee.

[3:06:44] Voice 11: committee and that work is unfolding as we speak and certainly wish all the candidates across the

[3:06:49] Voice 11: island's trust area success in their ambitions to join the island's trust and take on this very

[3:06:54] Voice 11: worthy and important work of preserving and protecting the gulf islands for all the citizens

[3:07:02] Voice 11: of british columbia and the natural environment so grateful and i'm very grateful to have the

[3:07:07] Voice 11: opportunity to work in this community it's a very busy place lots of interesting things going on

[3:07:13] Voice 11: but it's always a pleasure to come here and assist so that's my report i'm going to turn

[3:07:19] Voice 11: to gary holman for your regional director's report thanks

[3:07:22] Voice 7: peter and um thanks and congratulations to

[3:07:26] Voice 7: peter grove for your 11 years of service i'm reminded of the phrase no good deed shall go

[3:07:32] Voice 7: unpunished you certainly as with other elected officials had your fair share of punishment for

[3:07:41] Voice 7: doing good with the community so thanks peter you've always been very kind to me and uh in a

[3:07:46] Voice 7: previous life as well um and our political life and really appreciate it and uh we're going to

[3:07:54] Voice 7: miss you um just on the on the housing issue um there uh the the sea breeze in saga continues

[3:08:04] Voice 7: continues unfortunately uh whereas of yet as i understand it and others may have more

[3:08:11] Voice 7: information that i have but i i don't think any of the sea breeze tenants have moved to

[3:08:16] Voice 7: um king's lane at this point um they feel that they have tenants rights and there are uh at least

[3:08:24] Voice 7: two people who are pursuing that with the rentalsman's office uh the hospital foundation

[3:08:30] Voice 7: The foundation is caught in a difficult course on the building and are waiting to renovate it.

[3:08:35] Voice 7: They're going through the building permitting process with the crd now.

[3:08:39] Voice 7: But they've been unable to start because the tenants have not yet moved in the foundations view, and I agree with it.

[3:08:48] Voice 7: Those tenants are BC Housing's responsibility, and for an organization of their scale and resources, it is surprising to me how disorganized they have been on this file.

[3:09:04] Voice 7: We will continue to work on that.

[3:09:06] Voice 7: i believe laura has written to the uh interim housing minister one of the problems is the housing

[3:09:14] Voice 7: minister uh david evie now of course is running for uh premier and step down and so we're at the

[3:09:22] Voice 7: provincial level we're we're in limbo there as well we don't have anybody to what we do but it's

[3:09:28] Voice 7: it's probably a temporary position.

[3:09:32] Voice 7: So I'll also follow up urging Murray Rankin to step in,

[3:09:37] Voice 7: but I think he's kind of a caretaker at this point.

[3:09:41] Voice 7: But just on Drake, the outcome will be good.

[3:09:44] Voice 7: The outcome will be that the Seabreeze Inn

[3:09:46] Voice 7: will be renovated for health worker housing.

[3:09:49] Voice 7: The Drake Road will have a 28 unit supported housing

[3:09:53] Voice 7: facility built on it.

[3:09:55] Voice 7: That's in process.

[3:09:57] Voice 7: that has also been delayed the last I heard from BC Housing was instead of

[3:10:03] Voice 7: this summer where they were hoping to have the facility occupied primarily by

[3:10:10] Voice 7: Seabreeze residents it's going to be next summer now is what I'm hearing and

[3:10:14] Voice 7: perhaps the drift would follow up with them we really do need to be putting

[3:10:19] Voice 7: their their feet to the fire but there is other developed potential on Drake

[3:10:25] Voice 7: road uh there's a first reading in at the local trust committee right now uh for 80 units so

[3:10:32] Voice 7: theoretically hypothetically there could be another 50 or so units of affordable housing

[3:10:38] Voice 7: developed on drake road we are drilling another well to prove water to support that additional

[3:10:43] Voice 7: development and and uh actually crd has leased the property to bc housing which means um

[3:10:54] Voice 7: that as with supported housing they they can declare a paramount so we don't necessarily

[3:10:59] Voice 7: have to go through the local land use planning process we still have to meet building code

[3:11:04] Voice 7: requirements provincial requirements federal requirements all all of that uh but they don't

[3:11:09] Voice 7: necessarily have to go through uh rezoning which could speed up the process although my experience

[3:11:14] Voice 7: with the trust has always been supportive of affordable housing salt spring commons cropton

[3:11:21] Voice 7: brook i mean go down the list bracket springs every one of those properties have been rezoned

[3:11:25] Voice 7: by the trust and speaking of the land bank uh they are under foreclosure by van city i think that's

[3:11:31] Voice 7: well known publicly uh two of the properties now bracket springs and dean road have accepted offers

[3:11:39] Voice 7: by um ngos that want to pursue affordable uh housing on bracket spring dean dean road is

[3:11:48] Voice 7: is being rented now but it is not being fully utilized and is not being managed as effectively

[3:11:55] Voice 7: as it could be so there are two separate organizations that have accepted offers on

[3:12:01] Voice 7: each of those properties so fingers crossed they complete and uh and greater utilization

[3:12:08] Voice 7: and those properties will occur in the case of bracket springs it will be uh restarted uh so

[3:12:15] Voice 7: So that also could be good news.

[3:12:17] Voice 7: The Dragonfly is another affordable housing project

[3:12:20] Voice 7: also on Drake Road that I believe has first reading

[3:12:23] Voice 7: at the trust.

[3:12:24] Voice 7: They're going through the process

[3:12:26] Voice 7: because it's an ownership model.

[3:12:28] Voice 7: They have to establish a water utility

[3:12:31] Voice 7: and North Salt Spring declined to play that role for them.

[3:12:37] Voice 7: So they've entered into discussions with CRD

[3:12:40] Voice 7: to own and manage a water utility at Dragonfly

[3:12:44] Voice 7: which will facilitate that development they're also reliant on a drilled well but they they have

[3:12:50] Voice 7: an excellent water source so there those so there are three properties there where there's excellent

[3:12:56] Voice 7: potential for moving forward and building new housing which is you know part of uh what we

[3:13:02] Voice 7: should be uh doing in addition to legalizing um suites and cottages and a secondary benefit of

[3:13:09] Voice 7: new housing is that because housing agreements will require priority for local residents means

[3:13:17] Voice 7: uh rental existing rental stock will be freed up because people will be moving from where they're

[3:13:23] Voice 7: renting now into this new new housing and freeing up those units so there's a secondary uh benefit

[3:13:29] Voice 7: there uh i did want to mention the local community commission uh that also is subject to a referendum

[3:13:37] Voice 7: being run concurrently with the election and the basic idea there is instead of just having one

[3:13:42] Voice 7: elected official representing CRD issues on Salt Spring a community of over 11,000 people

[3:13:49] Voice 7: you would elect a director plus four commissions they would take over they would they are they

[3:13:55] Voice 7: will be delegated authority for 11 different services including all of the services now

[3:14:01] Voice 7: overseen by four separate appointed island-wide commissions and so there would be a consolidation

[3:14:07] Voice 7: of governance. It would eliminate some of the silos on the CRD side of things and the director

[3:14:15] Voice 7: would have one vote out of five. So it really is analogous to a municipal council except there's

[3:14:22] Voice 7: no changes in jurisdiction. CRD still does what it does. The trust does what it does. MOT still

[3:14:29] Voice 7: still owns that 265 kilometers of poorly built, poorly maintained roads, but it will improve

[3:14:36] Voice 7: governance. We've had two failed incorporation referenda that have been quite divisive.

[3:14:42] Voice 7: The local community commission allows us to take a step forward in governance while we wait

[3:14:50] Voice 7: possibly for another incorporation initiative. It does not preclude the possibility of pursuing

[3:14:57] Voice 7: doing incorporation in the future, but it definitely would be an improvement in governance

[3:15:01] Voice 7: and would democratize CRD governance on Salt Spring, which right now you've got one person

[3:15:08] Voice 7: making a whole number of very key decisions, including tax rates. Just that one person,

[3:15:15] Voice 7: all those decisions would be brought out into the open in regularly scheduled public meetings. It'll

[3:15:21] Voice 7: be a lot easier for the community to track instead of four different separate commissions.

[3:15:27] Voice 7: there'd be just like a municipal council one group of elected officials sitting in regularly scheduled

[3:15:33] Voice 7: public meetings so i i urge people to consider the proposal and and hopefully support it and

[3:15:40] Voice 7: just one last thing peter i wanted to mention the uh the say out have been uh rebuilding their

[3:15:46] Voice 7: longhouse it burned down over 10 years ago they have completed that now i think there's still

[3:15:52] Voice 7: some internal furnishings uh kitchen and whatnot that perhaps they're working on but on october

[3:15:58] Voice 7: 20th there's going to be a celebration and opening of the seo longhouse which is a great achievement

[3:16:05] Voice 7: for them and a lot of folks have been supporting them too in their fundraising efforts thank you

[3:16:12] Voice 7: thank you all

[3:16:13] Voice 11: right so this now leads us into uh correspondence town hall and delegations

[3:16:22] Voice 11: and we have 10 pieces of correspondence here today some originated from us

[3:16:32] Voice 11: and i'll just note that the first three or four are about the wireless telecommunications channel

[3:16:40] Voice 11: ridge the first two uh correspondence uh between uh julian clark and ms mcquade and ms uh heart at

[3:16:51] Voice 11: iscd and uh not to show any disrespect to that correspondence however um and the conversation

[3:16:58] Voice 11: that's ongoing and i note that we haven't had a final response from ms hart this time

[3:17:04] Voice 11: if i'm not mistaken um but i would like to receive those for information is that all right yeah so

[3:17:11] Voice 11: the third piece here is the letter from the salt spring ltc to all other parties

[3:17:19] Voice 11: uh mr clark ms mcquad and also isvd particularly at rogers particularly but it was circulated to

[3:17:28] Voice 11: all of those interested parties and that's just for information again and now at 15.4 was a letter

[3:17:35] Voice 11: from ms mcquad that has some more specific suggestions in there about activities that

[3:17:42] Voice 11: she believes that we should undertake and so just ask for the ltc if there's any consideration

[3:17:48] Voice 11: with respect to the letter from Ms. McQuadrant, 15.4.

[3:17:52] Voice 11: It's on page 152 of your agenda,

[3:17:55] Voice 11: or we'll just receive information at this time.

[3:17:58] Voice 4: I was going to say, maybe after the delegation,

[3:18:00] Voice 4: we could revisit

[3:18:01] Voice 11: opportunities or something.

[3:18:03] Voice 11: Okay, that would be great.

[3:18:05] Voice 11: So we'll consider all of that then after the delegation.

[3:18:09] Voice 11: Certainly interested to hear

[3:18:11] Voice 11: what you've learned from that conversation.

[3:18:14] Voice 11: So let us put that on pause for a moment.

[3:18:17] Voice 11: we'll continue with correspondence um so this is the next one at 15.5 is uh north salt spring

[3:18:23] Voice 11: waterworks uh district uh trustee patrick concerning a motion past the uh north salt

[3:18:29] Voice 11: spring waterworks district trustees special open meeting that's also an opportunity for us to

[3:18:35] Voice 11: consider uh some action so uh trustee patrick do you want to speak to it sure

[3:18:39] Voice 4: well it's interesting

[3:18:40] Voice 4: they addressed it just to be i think they meant to be addressing to

[3:18:42] Voice 4: the local trust committee

[3:18:45] Voice 4: I was going to, I'll just make a motion I think regarding it and discuss it.

[3:18:50] Voice 4: I move that the South Spring Island Local Trust Committee request staff to work with North Salt Spring water district, district manager or district district manager on opportunities to coordinate and report back to the local trust committee.

[3:19:09] Voice 4: on

[3:19:11] Voice 5: staff

[3:19:13] Voice 4: report on opportunities thank

[3:19:23] Voice 11: you so the next item here opportunity

[3:19:44] Voice 11: also for consideration is a letter regarding the Youth Parliament of

[3:19:48] Voice 11: british columbia it's an opportunity for um south spring islanders and youth from south spring island

[3:19:54] Voice 11: and others to participate in in the youth parliament of british columbia and uh trustees

[3:20:00] Voice 11: did you have any actions particularly you wanted to take with respect to that item

[3:20:04] Voice 4: there's a couple

[3:20:05] Voice 4: of questions one is i would hope that the school district received this i would assume so um but

[3:20:12] Voice 4: maybe we should double check to

[3:20:13] Voice 1: see uh you

[3:20:14] Voice 4: know i know it comes to us and i'm wondering if it does

[3:20:17] Voice 4: come to address to us is that because is there a question of whether or not we sponsor registration

[3:20:21] Voice 4: fees or not um for such an activity i mean i i certainly think if we've got youth in our

[3:20:29] Voice 4: community that are potentially interested in a career and in servicing their community as

[3:20:37] Voice 4: a politician we should be supporting that yeah

[3:20:41] Voice 5: we've said what we have done in the past we've

[3:20:44] Voice 5: it has forwarded this to the local school board because um they don't assume that they've received

[3:20:49] Voice 5: this okay

[3:20:50] Voice 11: well then can i get a motion to forward that to the school district i

[3:20:54] Voice 5: say move you got

[3:20:57] Voice 4: that okay yeah so is that seconded i'll second that i have discussion okay go ahead well the

[3:21:03] Voice 4: deadline for applications is october 25th so this needs to be checked like today that the school

[3:21:11] Voice 4: board received received that and i would assume it would go to the school board because we do

[3:21:15] Voice 4: have students that are homeschooled and so forth that should have equal opportunities to do such a

[3:21:20] Voice 11: thing um so do we know can staff manage getting that out later today or tomorrow

[3:21:29] Voice 12: yeah chris yeah

[3:21:40] Voice 12: i can i can have i can have our um

[3:21:42] Voice 6: our front desk send that out today all

[3:21:49] Voice 11: for the vote then all those

[3:21:50] Voice 11: in favor thank you for um managing that you know the frequency of our meetings sometimes makes it

[3:21:58] Voice 11: it's difficult to uh advance i just came in on september the 19th and so of course it's

[3:22:03] Voice 11: almost a month has passed since then so thank you chris um so salt spring the next uh three

[3:22:14] Voice 11: items are actually all associated with the letter that uh i wrote um to city west regarding um the

[3:22:21] Voice 11: opportunity for a grant to provide internet uh fiber connection to the homes on piers island

[3:22:29] Voice 11: place so they're leading the the crowd in the digital revolution that's ahead of us at the

[3:22:35] Voice 11: moment and um so just we'll receive those for information if that's all right um the next

[3:22:43] Voice 11: item was in our addendum uh package and this is uh from salt spring lcc to uh the young uh

[3:22:54] Voice 11: chair of transition salt springs concerning support for watershed stewardship video series

[3:23:00] Voice 11: that was also an item that came to our attention several months ago and it's finally gotten turned

[3:23:05] Voice 11: around and um and um that has been sent off to um salt spring transition and hopefully that video

[3:23:12] Voice 11: series is progressing in the right direction so i think that covers off all of our correspondence

[3:23:18] Voice 11: today and so if that's all right that concludes that we'll go to delegations

[3:23:24] Voice 11: And Julian Clark, Spokesperson for Concerned Residents of Canada, puts back in place.

[3:23:31] Voice 11: Over to you, sir. Thank you for joining us again today.

[3:23:34] Voice 11: Thank you very

[3:23:35] Voice 11: much. One

[3:23:38] Voice 9: time I go and get a delegation, it's not like you've got that full an agenda today.

[3:23:43] Voice 9: But I'm here today to report out on the meeting that Team CROC, Concerned Residents of Canada,

[3:23:51] Voice 9: this fact, had with ICID on September the 26th. And in a very highly summarized way, I would tell

[3:23:59] Voice 9: you it was a complete bust. ICID are willing to accept Rogers' assertion that they completed the

[3:24:08] Voice 9: Island Trust Model Protocol. Instead, they feel that the local trust committee staff knew and

[3:24:14] Voice 9: passed on to you, the trustees, that Rogers were following the ICID default protocol with a few

[3:24:21] Voice 9: enhancements they were very clear in telling us that the local trust committee has not provided

[3:24:31] Voice 9: sufficient reasons for rescindment in their opinion back to that in a minute but what was

[3:24:37] Voice 9: the most interesting that we learned during this meeting was that neither rogers nor the lgc

[3:24:45] Voice 9: have filed a formal complaint or requested a dispute resolution process be undertaken

[3:24:51] Voice 9: information we pressed isaac and the two senior staff members that we met with couldn't answer

[3:25:06] Voice 9: that

[3:25:06] Voice 12: question they couldn't

[3:25:14] Voice 9: wait to get us off the zoom again they were this meeting was set up

[3:25:21] Voice 9: as a

[3:25:21] Voice 9: result i believe of my letter to ms hart who's the executive general director for isaac

[3:25:29] Voice 9: and i responded the day of the meeting you've received a copy of that response to miss hart

[3:25:36] Voice 9: and on behalf of CROC we said the following we said first off we prefer to

[3:25:45] Voice 9: documentation and the documentation is clear as asserted that they had met that

[3:25:54] Voice 9: higher standard the island's trust model protocol it's in writing we prefer to

[3:26:00] Voice 9: follow the written documentation than follow the speculation that they are

[3:26:05] Voice 9: putting forth. Secondly, we had suggested that perhaps you were not aware that they were

[3:26:15] Voice 9: making judgment when you provided your reasons for rescindment. And so perhaps you, the LTC,

[3:26:22] Voice 9: didn't really have the wherewithal to provide all the rescindment and speak on your behalf. But

[3:26:29] Voice 9: clearly, we wrote that you might not have been aware that they were passing judgment on anything

[3:26:35] Voice 9: thing because there was no dispute resolution process and lastly we said that uh now more than

[3:26:42] Voice 9: ever there's an appearance of a conflict of interest they have no reason to be involved

[3:26:47] Voice 9: in this matter in fact when you look at miss hart's response to unima plot's letter on september 5th

[3:26:53] Voice 9: this heart herself says we do not get involved isis does not get involved in these matters

[3:27:00] Voice 9: unless either the proponent or the land use authority ask us to do so and neither of you

[3:27:07] Voice 9: have done that so for them to be involved creates an appearance of a conflict of interest when

[3:27:15] Voice 9: the executive at rogers who is requesting this sighting is also a former employee of iceland

[3:27:21] Voice 9: and so we made it very clear that uh we feel there there is an appearance of a conflict of interest

[3:27:30] Voice 9: trust we also made it very clear that the land use authority has spoken you have rescinded your

[3:27:36] Voice 9: concurrence and that's what stands and until such time as somebody decides they wish to file a

[3:27:42] Voice 9: dispute the law of the land is you rescinded meeting before the end of the term and i've got

[3:27:59] Voice 9: to tell you that i've reviewed the agenda packages i have done for the last 15 months

[3:28:04] Voice 9: very carefully and to be honest i was quite impressed by all that you have achieved there's

[3:28:10] Voice 9: lot achieved a lot accomplished over the past four years when it comes to this rogers proposed tower

[3:28:18] Voice 9: i think you've fallen short in several ways and today is your chance to try to rectify some of

[3:28:27] Voice 9: that you fell short when you indicated that there was no antenna sighting policy salt spring una

[3:28:37] Voice 9: quad has written several letters to you and has written to i said as well and she i've included

[3:28:44] Voice 9: the one letter in the attachments to this presentation today.

[3:28:49] Voice 9: We're very clear that you claim ICID revoked the 2001 policy.

[3:28:57] Voice 9: ICID claim you revoked the policy,

[3:29:00] Voice 9: but your staff members at Island Trust

[3:29:02] Voice 9: have been very clear that nobody has revoked

[3:29:04] Voice 9: or rescinded the April, 2001 policy.

[3:29:08] Voice 9: So you made a mistake, certainly in our opinion,

[3:29:11] Voice 9: and nobody's been able to answer why it's not a mistake.

[3:29:15] Voice 9: when you claim there was no policy in place you made a mistake when you accepted an assertion

[3:29:20] Voice 9: from rogers that they met a higher level when they didn't and accepted that rectified that mistake

[3:29:29] Voice 9: when you went and rescinded and we appreciate that greatly in march at this point it appears as though

[3:29:36] Voice 9: you have not provided all reasons for rescindment and you've left this thing in a bit of a quagmire

[3:29:43] Voice 9: we understand they believe there were only two reasons given for the rescindment one was that

[3:29:51] Voice 9: that you've adopted a new policy on November 9th meeting.

[3:29:56] Voice 9: That's not a valid reason to assemble.

[3:30:00] Voice 9: and two that there wasn't a sufficient amount of consultation or any consultation with first

[3:30:05] Voice 9: nation that is quite frankly one of the reasons for resentment but it's not the strongest reason

[3:30:09] Voice 9: again i'm hoping that today we can rectify that being the last meeting we've got to give some

[3:30:19] Voice 9: direction to the next local trust committee that comes in here next month and i have three motions

[3:30:28] Voice 9: how could you please consider today number one ask that the ltc acknowledged the april 2001

[3:30:38] Voice 9: antenna sliding policy that has never been revoked nor rescinded and hence was in effect when rogers

[3:30:43] Voice 9: applied for concurrence in may of 2021. so the motion would be the ltc acknowledges the april

[3:30:50] Voice 9: 2001 antenna sliding policy has never been revoked nor rescinded and hence was in effect when rogers

[3:30:56] Voice 9: applied for concurrence on may 21st you're willing to actually put any of these i'm sorry

[3:31:10] Voice 11: um i help

[3:31:13] Voice 11: me out here i thought that was one motion it is one motion

[3:31:16] Voice 11: okay i

[3:31:17] Voice 9: have two more okay so

[3:31:18] Voice 11: i'm okay

[3:31:19] Voice 11: i'm okay with one i've heard it

[3:31:21] Voice 9: okay the second motion is the ltc will report to isid that rogers

[3:31:29] Voice 9: asserted in their citing application they would fulfill the island's trust model protocol

[3:31:33] Voice 9: is a factual statement and will report and the ltc will report all the deficiencies the ltc

[3:31:43] Voice 9: have become aware of since providing concurrence there are many deficiencies that rogers did not

[3:31:52] Voice 9: did not fulfill that island's trust model protocol i provided that to you at your july 12th meeting

[3:32:00] Voice 9: in a draft letter to isaac asking that there be a motion that you report to isaac all those

[3:32:11] Voice 9: deficiencies to claim not sufficient reasons for rescind please set the record straight that's the

[3:32:21] Voice 9: effect of that second motion third motion i would ask and this is simply because we know rogers are

[3:32:32] Voice 9: ignoring you and ignoring us and ignoring because they believe that they rule the world the ltc will

[3:32:39] Voice 9: pursue obtaining an injunction preventing rogers from developing the proposed tower site so until

[3:32:51] Voice 9: such time as you either accept a site a new site or until such time as a dispute resolution process

[3:33:01] Voice 9: requires that that site be

[3:33:03] Voice 12: chosen

[3:33:04] Voice 9: be selected so

[3:33:12] Voice 11: can you um say that one more time what you've

[3:33:15] Voice 11: just said there about the injunction the

[3:33:17] Voice 9: local trust committee the sultan local trust committee

[3:33:20] Voice 9: will pursue obtaining an injunction preventing rogers from developing the proposed tower site

[3:33:27] Voice 9: this would

[3:33:35] Voice 9: save us from being threatened with arrest by trying to uphold what you have asked

[3:33:43] Voice 9: when you wrote a letter on july 20th rogers said please suspend any development and they chose not

[3:33:49] Voice 9: to and

[3:33:53] Voice 9: when the rcmp came to us and said you have to remove yourselves from blocking access to this

[3:33:58] Voice 9: site we'll arrest you we we had your letter to hold that was about it we need a court injunction

[3:34:07] Voice 9: if you want to put this right if you want to set a direction for the next local trust committee

[3:34:22] Voice 9: i think that's that's that would do just that set a direction and i see it that might sound

[3:34:28] Voice 9: minutes lines but question

[3:34:30] Voice 5: for clarification um i don't actually understand your first one because

[3:34:37] Voice 5: because there was no policy,

[3:34:42] Voice 5: local trust committee antenna policy at that time.

[3:34:45] Voice 11: In 2001.

[3:34:46] Voice 11: 2001.

[3:34:47] Voice 9: There was in April,

[3:34:49] Voice 9: there was a resolution in April, 2001

[3:34:52] Voice 9: to accept a antenna sighting policy for Salisbury Island.

[3:34:58] Voice 9: And it requires, it's quite frankly,

[3:35:01] Voice 9: if you looked at your July 27th agenda package,

[3:35:03] Voice 9: it's in the July 27th agenda package.

[3:35:07] Voice 9: it came out of a forwarding of this issue right previous to april 2001 to your apc and your apc

[3:35:16] Voice 9: came up with that and that suggests by the way you know this 500 meter from full-time residences is

[3:35:22] Voice 9: an important issue so

[3:35:23] Voice 5: when did we adopt that new

[3:35:25] Voice 9: april of 2001 gosh it never was revoked nor

[3:35:30] Voice 9: rescinded why

[3:35:34] Voice 5: would we revoke it or rescind it it was our it was our policy exactly it was your

[3:35:38] Voice 5: policy so um what

[3:35:40] Voice 9: happened is when the letter of understanding got pulled by the federal regulator

[3:35:45] Voice 9: somehow staff or yourselves have tied they're pulling the letter of understanding to your

[3:35:52] Voice 9: policy but there is no there is there's nothing that a federal government can do or any other

[3:36:00] Voice 9: government can do to have you to pull a a policy that you have resolved it has to be yourselves

[3:36:10] Voice 9: to rescind it or revoke it, you never did that.

[3:36:13] Voice 5: Sorry, I'm getting confused with dates now.

[3:36:15] Voice 5: So we had a policy in place April, 2001.

[3:36:18] Voice 5: That's correct.

[3:36:19] Voice 9: So here's, sorry, Trustee Grover.

[3:36:23] Voice 11: Sorry,

[3:36:23] Voice 5: but that was the Nylund's Trust Policy,

[3:36:25] Voice 5: not a local trust policy.

[3:36:27] Voice 11: If you don't mind, I'll just help.

[3:36:30] Voice 11: I think I can be helpful.

[3:36:31] Voice 11: So indeed, there was an adopted policy from 2001

[3:36:36] Voice 11: that existed.

[3:36:37] Voice 11: There was a change in ICID administration that they said that they were withdrawing the process that existed before, and that if local governments wanted to have an antenna sighting protocol, they would have to create new ones.

[3:36:58] Voice 11: And in that process, Julian is correct that ICE has never withdrew it, and the LTC never withdrew it.

[3:37:08] Voice 11: There was the assumption, I believe, that it had expired.

[3:37:15] Voice 11: But technically,

[3:37:16] Voice 9: probably not true.

[3:37:18] Voice 9: So it's a technicality.

[3:37:23] Voice 9: Our argument twice is that the LTC and Rogers both agreed

[3:37:31] Voice 9: the trust model protocol would be filled

[3:37:35] Voice 9: for this particular site and request.

[3:37:40] Voice 9: And it's very clear from the July 27th agenda,

[3:37:44] Voice 9: staff had indicated to Rogers

[3:37:46] Voice 9: that Rogers should follow that as a guideline.

[3:37:49] Voice 9: And Rogers in their application on May 31st of 2021,

[3:37:54] Voice 9: stated in the first sentence of 102 page document

[3:37:58] Voice 9: that they had fulfilled the requirements for that right okay

[3:38:04] Voice 9: that's where they fell short

[3:38:05] Voice 9: but if I said one who argued oh no that policy wasn't adopted by you folks how could you follow

[3:38:11] Voice 9: I know you two parties agreed but there was a policy hadn't been adopted by Seltzringer fine

[3:38:17] Voice 9: then apply the 2001 policy not the I said default so that's the only reason why that resolution I'm

[3:38:28] Voice 9: asking for that motion because if i said want to argue that even though the two parties agreed on

[3:38:34] Voice 9: the protocol it shouldn't follow if this i said don't accept that they cannot step back and say

[3:38:40] Voice 9: the default which is down here in terms of standards they can't step back and say the

[3:38:46] Voice 9: default rules no the

[3:38:48] Voice 12: april 2001 policy yeah that's

[3:38:58] Voice 5: how it is thank you um so i mean it seems to hold

[3:39:05] Voice 5: hold water to me I don't think your third option is an option because I don't think

[3:39:10] Voice 5: you get an injunction I'm not a lawyer but I suspect the courts would not and that takes

[3:39:15] Voice 5: a while in any event but um but I mean I don't think we can let this sit um and let it lie

[3:39:22] Voice 5: I mean that you know Julian raises some very valid points um and I I do not know what the

[3:39:29] Voice 5: next step is there is a dispute resolution process which has not been entered into or

[3:39:34] Voice 5: or applied for according to your research can the local trust committee apply for adr you you may

[3:39:45] Voice 9: you may request a dispute resolution but you don't have a dispute you've rescinded it

[3:39:50] Voice 13: the

[3:39:52] Voice 9: problem is

[3:39:54] Voice 9: rogers are ignoring it and that's where court injunction comes into place rogers cannot ignore

[3:40:00] Voice 9: the local land use authority saying you have no authority to build it well

[3:40:05] Voice 5: i think the real

[3:40:06] Voice 5: problem is that the federal government makes these decisions with or without um local approval

[3:40:12] Voice 9: and in the event there is so let's say rogers requested a dispute which is really probably

[3:40:19] Voice 9: the next natural step i don't see a reason why you would ask for a dispute you presented

[3:40:24] Voice 9: it's very clear you have nothing to dispute if rogers wishes to dispute that they need to write

[3:40:31] Voice 9: provide a written formal request for a dispute resolution and then it can go one of two ways

[3:40:38] Voice 9: Either ICID can gather all of the relevant information and make a decision for themselves,

[3:40:45] Voice 9: or they can ask that there be an arbitrator applied.

[3:40:48] Voice 9: This goes through an arbitration process.

[3:40:51] Voice 9: If the dispute does arise out of a Rogers complaint, I would then come to the local

[3:40:56] Voice 9: trust committee and ask that you request arbitration because of the appearance of a conflict of

[3:41:01] Voice 9: interest.

[3:41:04] Voice 9: ICID have already weighed in here without being asked.

[3:41:10] Voice 9: they've already prejudged without getting obtaining the relevant information and they're

[3:41:16] Voice 9: dealing with a former employee roger's side have

[3:41:30] Voice 11: a conversation with the ltc but i have one question

[3:41:33] Voice 11: for you um um has rogers advanced any more work on that site to your knowledge

[3:41:43] Voice 9: not since july 28th

[3:41:48] Voice 9: They have removed the equipment. They had an excavator up there. Subcontractors removed the equipment.

[3:42:00] Voice 9: They have dug four or five holes about six feet deep to gain access to the power.

[3:42:09] Voice 9: The Telus Tower's power runs underneath where the Rogers Tower is to go, and it still needs to be moved.

[3:42:16] Voice 9: they have not filled in those holes they have simply thrown plywood with big red x's across

[3:42:21] Voice 9: it somewhat dangerous to be honest but they are at least covered okay

[3:42:27] Voice 11: so thank you thank you for

[3:42:30] Voice 11: all the work you're doing and even the elements of enlightenment that you provided and i think

[3:42:37] Voice 11: that's good um and this is just me speaking from a process perspective and how to move forward on

[3:42:45] Voice 11: on this and we have to decide together

[3:42:47] Voice 11: what it is that we do or do not wanna do,

[3:42:50] Voice 11: what we agree with and what we don't agree with.

[3:42:52] Voice 11: But this is a mess to say the least

[3:42:56] Voice 11: of which there is some ambiguity around assumptions

[3:43:04] Voice 11: that were made in this process.

[3:43:07] Voice 11: There's absolutely interpretation

[3:43:10] Voice 11: over what Rogers might've said

[3:43:14] Voice 11: in the way of making a commitment

[3:43:15] Voice 11: of which they were not beholden to,

[3:43:19] Voice 11: because there was no formal new policy.

[3:43:22] Voice 11: But certainly in the light of what we now know

[3:43:26] Voice 11: about the ambiguity of the 2001 policy,

[3:43:28] Voice 11: that it may very well stand,

[3:43:30] Voice 11: the rescindment is supported by that

[3:43:39] Voice 11: they did not follow that original policy,

[3:43:41] Voice 11: they followed the default policy.

[3:43:43] Voice 11: I'm prepared to believe that that's a tangible argument.

[3:43:49] Voice 11: I'm not interested in pursuing an injunction, because honestly, I don't think we can.

[3:43:54] Voice 11: And that's, you know, we can have a different opinion. That's fine.

[3:43:59] Voice 11: I, I don't know about the list of reasons why the process fell short of the draft policy, because just because Roger said they were going to do it, they weren't, they didn't have to do it.

[3:44:13] Voice 11: There's no law that says they had to. But let's just move on from that for a moment.

[3:44:18] Voice 11: Where I'm at in thinking about this is, and you've offered another piece of advice here, actually, that I'm going to embrace in this, is that the best thing to happen here is if Rogers could just simply hit reset and start again, and indeed start again with the 2001 policy, and go through the whole process and determine whether or not that's adequate.

[3:44:45] Voice 11: I don't see any other way out of this.

[3:44:46] Voice 11: They're not going to, for whatever reason, not that it should make any difference because

[3:44:51] Voice 11: I don't think that one is any more offensive than the other, but the fact that the one

[3:44:55] Voice 11: existed when they made their original application is kind of how the law works.

[3:45:01] Voice 11: But I would also suggest that, I would suggest we write to Rogers and say, we politely ask

[3:45:09] Voice 11: you to start again, start from the beginning using the 2001 policy.

[3:45:13] Voice 11: and if not then indeed start a dispute mechanism because we believe our rescindment stands that's

[3:45:22] Voice 11: sort of the general way i think is a way to move forward that puts the responsibility back on

[3:45:30] Voice 11: rogers to fix this and you know i have to say i think we have to stop implying there's a conflict

[3:45:38] Voice 11: of interest there's no win in that

[3:45:40] Voice 11: because they will get their backs up and and I don't miss I

[3:45:47] Voice 11: don't miss I don't agree like I've talked to the folks I don't think there's a conflict of interest

[3:45:52] Voice 11: so I just don't think there's any value in that and I want to respect them as professionals

[3:45:56] Voice 11: and I think it's in all our best interest to respect them as professionals and behave that

[3:46:01] Voice 11: they are operating in the best interest that as a public service they're supposed to um so that's

[3:46:09] Voice 11: my thoughts and i'd like to hear from the trustees what you think because somehow you know if ideally

[3:46:16] Voice 11: we don't just dump this on a future lpc we do provide some movement well

[3:46:22] Voice 5: i think that's a good

[3:46:23] Voice 5: solution um and you're going to be in trouble what do you think um

[3:46:30] Voice 4: well i think quagmire was probably

[3:46:32] Voice 4: a polite word um my understanding is the rescindment stands yes and that we don't have to

[3:46:40] Voice 4: offer a single further shred of evidence as to our that is a decision that we made and that we

[3:46:47] Voice 4: that it was rescinded um so i'm i am less afraid of an injunction than maybe you two are but uh

[3:46:55] Voice 4: it's how how to enforce the rescindment if that is what we are doing is we're defending a rescindment

[3:47:04] Voice 4: and that's as far as my legal um description could be what are the options to defend that

[3:47:13] Voice 4: i know we said we had we were not it was we did not need to take further action

[3:47:21] Voice 4: but clearly we do need to take further action if this sits in a state of quagmire

[3:47:31] Voice 4: you know so that's you know i i think leaving it as is just waiting for the part to see who

[3:47:38] Voice 4: bluffs first is you know it's not fair to the community well

[3:47:43] Voice 5: i do believe that notwithstanding

[3:47:45] Voice 5: the shakes of the heads in the back row that i do believe that they'll they will move ahead

[3:47:50] Voice 5: with this and we'll say damn the torpedoes we are the federal government it's our decision at the

[3:47:55] Voice 5: the end of the day. So I think we need to stick our oar in the water and try to avoid

[3:48:02] Voice 5: that happening. And the way to avoid that happening, I think, Peter, I think your suggestion

[3:48:06] Voice 5: is a very good one. At least give them something to chew on.

[3:48:08] Voice 11: Well, let's just think about that for a minute, because what Laura said is significant in

[3:48:15] Voice 11: understanding it. And, you know, hi, Rogers. I know you're listening, right? They're interested

[3:48:21] Voice 11: in this as much as we are and i said that the do nothing policy whether that's a policy or not but

[3:48:28] Voice 11: do nothing is what has ended up us being in this place and are they continuing to do nothing that

[3:48:35] Voice 11: pulled off the equipment and the contractors because of fears about it escalating and that's

[3:48:40] Voice 11: fair that's a right thing to do um but we're we're in this quagmire perfectly we're stuck in this

[3:48:48] Voice 11: place and without somebody taking some action and i do believe it is up to rogers as you've indicated

[3:48:54] Voice 11: rogers to start a dispute process because our rescindment stands and so if they want us to

[3:49:01] Voice 11: rescind our resentment then they need to take that action so indeed the minimum would be to say

[3:49:09] Voice 11: if you are not acknowledging despite what um ised has said about our resentment

[3:49:15] Voice 11: If they are not

[3:49:17] Voice 11: accepting our assentment, then they need to start a dispute resolution

[3:49:20] Voice 11: because that hasn't happened.

[3:49:22] Voice 11: And I would just like to say that the conversations I had with ICED were not a dispute resolution

[3:49:29] Voice 11: or a resolution associated with the problem.

[3:49:33] Voice 11: It was a conversation about correspondence.

[3:49:35] Voice 11: And so you're right, we haven't gone through that process.

[3:49:40] Voice 11: So we can either ask them to reset and start from the beginning, or if they don't want to do that, they can start a dispute resolution process.

[3:49:49] Voice 5: Give them the two options.

[3:49:50] Voice 11: Well, I sort of think, but I'm happy to give one.

[3:49:54] Voice 9: Can I just suggest for a moment, at some point, ICID are the last on record here, A17, saying that you haven't provided a rescindment.

[3:50:07] Voice 9: But we have not

[3:50:08] Voice 9: rescinded our rescindment, either.

[3:50:10] Voice 9: you have not true but in at least responding to isaac to say our understanding is there's

[3:50:20] Voice 9: been no complaint no formal complaint there's been no um no dispute resolution trigger we have

[3:50:29] Voice 9: every right to rescind we did that's that's that's the law of the land to use different

[3:50:34] Voice 9: words than that but that's that's where this stands now and we'll you know in the event

[3:50:40] Voice 9: Rogers wish to to dispute that by all means but until such time as they do understand why

[3:50:49] Voice 9: there is no reason for them to be involved there is nothing in CPC 2003 that provides

[3:50:58] Voice 9: requires the federal regulator ISA to be involved in this matter this matter is between the proponent

[3:51:05] Voice 9: Rogers and Crest and the land use authority yourselves and when you say you know there's

[3:51:14] Voice 9: the whole conflict of interest look i'm happy to drop that if they could explain to me why they're

[3:51:20] Voice 9: involved i'm

[3:51:23] Voice 11: not well you know that that's a great question i'll say but to some extent it's

[3:51:29] Voice 11: reassuring that a federal government agency could actually engage in the conversation when clearly

[3:51:36] Voice 11: they don't have to if

[3:51:38] Voice 9: they didn't engage in a conversation they made a judgment without

[3:51:40] Voice 9: out without containing all the relatives in a judgment in favor of a party that formerly worked

[3:51:47] Voice 9: with them

[3:51:48] Voice 11: yeah i just

[3:51:49] Voice 9: i just think we have to avoid that it's not helpful i hear you but

[3:51:54] Voice 9: and it's

[3:51:55] Voice 9: it's principled as well it's

[3:51:56] Voice 11: not helpful when they can explain why they're

[3:51:58] Voice 9: involved i'll

[3:51:59] Voice 9: lay off the economy okay

[3:52:02] Voice 11: so i can't i tend to agree with there's a there's an element here

[3:52:08] Voice 11: it we can write to rogers and isis and say rogers if if you want to proceed with this

[3:52:16] Voice 11: start a dispute otherwise or we can can provide a recommendation to restart the process which was

[3:52:27] Voice 11: flawed you know i have been

[3:52:31] Voice 11: brought over just thinking that that original policy still stands

[3:52:35] Voice 5: yeah i agree well

[3:52:38] Voice 4: i mean if that's yes if you're going to write to rogers yes copy

[3:52:43] Voice 4: be if you're writing to rogers you're copying the the the federal department there to keep them in

[3:52:49] Voice 4: the hook but i think it is it's a defense of our rescindment um or reiteration or whatever the word

[3:52:56] Voice 4: is of our you know we have not changed it's rescinded um and you know that is there they

[3:53:06] Voice 4: can initiate the application again or whatever the term is that uh you know we would we would

[3:53:12] Voice 4: entertain another application or something of that nature under what protocol i think could

[3:53:17] Voice 4: i don't know would

[3:53:18] Voice 11: somebody like to make a motion for that effect

[3:53:23] Voice 5: um right to rogers in response to the issues raised with regard to the

[3:53:33] Voice 5: antenna um requiring them to um restart the process um well i think we need a bit of background

[3:53:44] Voice 5: um and talk about the dispute whether it is one or not um and all the lack of understanding but

[3:53:52] Voice 5: we need to clarify it so we can give them the options of restarting the processing

[3:53:57] Voice 5: so we can clear the air and uh start fresh or um and bearing in mind i think we should be

[3:54:05] Voice 5: listing the reasons why we rescinded in the first place they should be there all part of

[3:54:09] Voice 5: same letter so in one letter it completes it includes all the issues um and

[3:54:18] Voice 12: uh we do not

[3:54:21] Voice 5: we do not use the injunction word yeah so

[3:54:24] Voice 5: it's

[3:54:26] Voice 11: obviously requires some subtleties in the word

[3:54:30] Voice 11: and so i would be content based upon what i'll say after this that if there's a motion for the

[3:54:42] Voice 11: chair to write to rogers respecting the rescindment of the concurrence on the antenna site that that

[3:54:51] Voice 11: would give me the opportunity to work with staff to draft up something that essentially says that

[3:54:57] Voice 11: the ltc stands behind its resentment and that if rogers wants to pursue the installation of

[3:55:04] Voice 11: the antenna that they start a dispute process whatever the word is that they use yeah this

[3:55:14] Voice 5: resolution process and that's going to we're going to have to run that by our legal stuff

[3:55:19] Voice 5: legal legal advice

[3:55:20] Voice 11: we could do that and take that burns up time i don't think there's any harm in

[3:55:24] Voice 11: advance i don't think there's anything legal that's a contention it's up to rogers to decide

[3:55:30] Voice 11: that are going to do it or continue to do nothing anyway let's do that and of course the other

[3:55:36] Voice 11: alternative in addition to that if it's just that simple that's great but then they all the

[3:55:42] Voice 11: additional item would be or you start the process from the beginning

[3:55:46] Voice 12: yes yes

[3:55:47] Voice 11: i agree using the

[3:55:48] Voice 11: existing 2001

[3:55:50] Voice 12: policy or take it except

[3:55:55] Voice 9: you soon apply today it's an exciting use of your november

[3:55:59] Voice 9: yeah 2021 false so

[3:56:02] Voice 10: we could just say restart the process and let them decide

[3:56:08] Voice 11: yeah i don't know that one or the other would make a big difference

[3:56:12] Voice 11: how does that sound sounds

[3:56:16] Voice 5: great well so what's it going to look like

[3:56:18] Voice 5: sarah no doubt has got it all written down all

[3:56:21] Voice 4: right but i guess the only words i'd add is it

[3:56:25] Voice 4: needs to be strongly written that we're defending our resentment i think that's the key well yeah

[3:56:30] Voice 4: we're defending it's not

[3:56:31] Voice 11: a wimpy letter it's

[3:56:33] Voice 4: got to say we stand behind this resentment

[3:56:35] Voice 11: we have not

[3:56:36] Voice 11: changed i'm happy to circulate that back

[3:56:39] Voice 5: and it could be as simple as that and so that would be

[3:56:43] Voice 5: our dispute if um they will not accept our rescindment that is where the adr process comes in

[3:56:50] Voice 5: yeah so we yeah maybe that's right i think laura's right we just we just um challenge that and then

[3:56:57] Voice 5: and invite them to uh yeah and

[3:57:01] Voice 11: i think that's the right thing it

[3:57:07] Voice 9: might be that you like draft

[3:57:17] Voice 9: letter to isaac it does play out everything the reasons for assignment if you are going to in fact

[3:57:28] Voice 9: include reasons for something why you're defending it does provide you without having to do the work

[3:57:33] Voice 9: what those are and if i may just one last comment with respect to your thought that there's

[3:57:40] Voice 9: interpretation around the written document i will leave you with this question if i lie to you in an

[3:57:48] Voice 9: application if i make

[3:57:50] Voice 9: a false statement in an application not buried in the depths of the

[3:57:54] Voice 9: application but on the first sentence of 102 page document if i falsify that statement what would

[3:58:02] Voice 9: you do i

[3:58:04] Voice 11: don't know but that's a good question it's not an interpretation yeah thank you very

[3:58:09] Voice 11: much for your time today

[3:58:11] Voice 12: it's

[3:58:19] Voice 9: in the agenda yes

[3:58:21] Voice 12: it

[3:58:22] Voice 9: is attachment number three draft letter from

[3:58:27] Voice 9: july 12th more than welcome to the family

[3:58:29] Voice 13: to

[3:58:31] Voice 9: the agenda so

[3:58:33] Voice 11: maybe i'll ask for a motion and i think

[3:58:36] Voice 11: maybe sarah's already got that but i want to actually take this moment just to turn to our

[3:58:43] Voice 11: our brand new regional planning manager

[3:58:45] Voice 11: to see whether or not he has any remarks

[3:58:48] Voice 11: before we hastily rush into a motion.

[3:58:53] Voice 6: Thank you, Chair Leckham.

[3:58:54] Voice 6: I think the direction of providing,

[3:58:57] Voice 6: asking staff to provide a letter or work with Chair Leckham,

[3:59:00] Voice 6: I would ask you that you just resolve

[3:59:02] Voice 6: whether you want that letter to come

[3:59:05] Voice 6: from the LTC chair or from staff.

[3:59:11] Voice 6: That's just one thing that I want to get clear on.

[3:59:14] Voice 6: I think that the notion of defending our rescindment

[3:59:19] Voice 6: and the options you provided are probably reasonable.

[3:59:22] Voice 6: We will review whatever you pass.

[3:59:26] Voice 6: We will sort of look and see if there is any exposure

[3:59:29] Voice 6: and determine if we just need to check in with a lawyer.

[3:59:31] Voice 6: I don't think there's anything here

[3:59:32] Voice 6: that looks like needing to get a legal opinion so far

[3:59:37] Voice 6: based on the direction that you seem to be going.

[3:59:40] Voice 6: So maybe I might just chime in as you work through the motion and provide any other details.

[3:59:48] Voice 6: But at this point, I think we're probably in a pretty good direction to do this fairly quickly and clearly.

[4:00:13] Voice 3: Okay,

[4:00:26] Voice 11: so moved and seconded by Trustee Patrick. All those in favor? That carries. Okay, well,

[4:00:32] Voice 11: well well done everybody thank you julian and everybody else in campus and we'll see where we

[4:00:39] Voice 11: get um that's our delegation so town hall now um um is there anybody that wishes to address the

[4:00:49] Voice 11: local trust committee today just have to note that we are now post-public hearing on bylaw

[4:00:54] Voice 11: five three zero i think there's a typo there and so we're not allowed to hear anything new

[4:00:59] Voice 11: with respect to that item um but is there anybody else who wishes to address the local trust

[4:01:03] Voice 11: committee today okay looks like we've covered it okay so then i'm going to move on to applications

[4:01:12] Voice 11: and referrals and we have uh one application today southland development variance summit 2022.11

[4:01:19] Voice 11: edgar at 227 roland road i'll just ask is the applicant here available to us online i see a

[4:01:25] Voice 11: couple of folks who just showed up online well done rob thank you for the question yes i'm here

[4:01:31] Voice 12: and

[4:01:33] Voice 11: now i've got to get down to that report is that yours um no oh online we have somebody

[4:01:41] Voice 6: you're like um uh mr uh stephen bow is here um from the northern planning office he's been

[4:01:48] Voice 6: helping us out with some of our um and i hope i got that name right stephen we've never actually

[4:01:52] Voice 6: met so i've only read your report so um but he he's here when you're ready uh to like him to

[4:01:58] Voice 6: to present this application and he'll have all the deets.

[4:02:04] Voice 1: Great.

[4:02:05] Voice 11: Thank you for joining us, Planner Bauer.

[4:02:07] Voice 11: And I'll turn it over to you to introduce the permit.

[4:02:13] Voice 11: And that must be the applicant there on the iPad.

[4:02:17] Voice 11: And so just for the applicant's benefit,

[4:02:20] Voice 11: what we do is we hear from staff about the report.

[4:02:23] Voice 11: I'll turn to you to ask if you concur

[4:02:26] Voice 11: with the recommendations in the report,

[4:02:28] Voice 11: and then the LTC here the trustees may have some questions for you or for the planning staff

[4:02:34] Voice 11: before we have a discussion about whether or not to issue the permit or not okay that's fine thank

[4:02:40] Voice 12: you yeah

[4:02:41] Voice 11: okay thank you sir and what was your name sir are you Mr. Edgar yes I am

[4:02:46] Voice 11: okay sir

[4:02:47] Voice 11: um so over to you great

[4:02:49] Voice 1: thanks a lot um so this is an application for a development variance permit

[4:02:55] Voice 1: permit to allow an existing dwelling and a new deck within the front lot line setback and the

[4:03:02] Voice 1: interior lot line setback as well and staff are recommending approval of the variance request

[4:03:08] Voice 1: as the dwelling has been in its current location for 50 years and the applicant has received a

[4:03:15] Voice 1: ministry of transportation and infrastructure setback permit as well for the front lot line

[4:03:20] Voice 1: um and uh yeah and and so notice of the dvp was sent to neighboring property owners and tenants

[4:03:28] Voice 1: within 100 meters of the property and no responses were received uh in the notice period so thanks

[4:03:35] Voice 1: thank

[4:03:38] Voice 11: you so mr edgar do you have any remarks on the on the application and the recommendations

[4:03:43] Voice 11: and staff to approve uh

[4:03:45] Voice 10: no it's uh was very well very well done and i'm quite happy with what

[4:03:49] Voice 10: they've done okay

[4:03:50] Voice 11: thank you sir trustees do you have any question for staff or the applicant

[4:03:54] Voice 11: i just

[4:03:54] Voice 4: have one question uh how many how many notices were sent out how many are within 100

[4:03:59] Voice 4: meters curious actually

[4:04:02] Voice 1: i actually don't know uh the answer to that i'm not sure if

[4:04:08] Voice 1: any of our other staff would would know um

[4:04:13] Voice 3: rob

[4:04:15] Voice 6: rob pingel might but he probably sent it out

[4:04:20] Voice 6: might not have it off the top of his head so sorry to put you on the spot there rob

[4:04:24] Voice 11: it's just that you have to log in to find that information but presumably it's the adjacent

[4:04:29] Voice 4: number

[4:04:29] Voice 11: lost okay any other questions like

[4:04:33] Voice 12: at least more so um okay

[4:04:40] Voice 11: so before i ask for the

[4:04:44] Voice 11: motion i just remarked mr edgar there is a commitment there to remove some other structures

[4:04:48] Voice 11: that were are within the setback and um we trust that that will happen in due course if it hasn't

[4:04:54] Voice 11: happened already uh

[4:04:56] Voice 12: yes yeah okay

[4:04:58] Voice 11: thank you sir trustees

[4:04:59] Voice 5: i'm happy to move that false man

[4:05:02] Voice 5: local trust committee issue up issue approve sign issue approve issuance

[4:05:09] Voice 12: it's just approve

[4:05:10] Voice 12: issuance approvals

[4:05:11] Voice 5: thank you approve issuance of ssdvp 2022.11 so

[4:05:17] Voice 11: that's moved to a secondary

[4:05:18] Voice 11: second by trustee patrick any further discussion all those in favor so that carries so that uh

[4:05:25] Voice 11: that provides the development permit sir thank you very much for uh working with the staff and

[4:05:30] Voice 11: thank you uh planner bow for uh bringing this to us today so that concludes our applications

[4:05:36] Voice 11: and referrals today we have uh our next meeting will be 9 30 december 13th at this very fine

[4:05:46] Voice 11: find location. And unless there's any further business

[4:05:50] Voice 11: today.

[4:05:52] Voice 11: Oh, yes.

[4:05:55] Voice 13: Oh, no,

[4:05:56] Voice 4: we were my notes here. delegation.

[4:06:02] Voice 4: It was the they needed the resolution, the money for the

[4:06:07] Voice 4: workshop. Oh, so

[4:06:08] Voice 4: my understanding is that there's

[4:06:12] Voice 4: that we need to make a resolution to allow staff to

[4:06:15] Voice 4: spent up to eleven thousand dollars to facilitate the oh and do we have

[4:06:21] Voice 4: that money oh the project

[4:06:23] Voice 4: was funded yeah i mean we had oh because

[4:06:26] Voice 11: five thousand dollars there

[4:06:27] Voice 3: was the same funding from

[4:06:29] Voice 3: the yeah

[4:06:32] Voice 11: okay so we have eleven thousand dollars yeah she said she checked with okay well let's

[4:06:38] Voice 11: get a motion um

[4:06:39] Voice 4: okay i'm winging this so let's say sarah listen okay um that's a good question

[4:06:50] Voice 4: this was it's in regard that's

[4:06:51] Voice 11: in section three of the projects list the first two items

[4:06:54] Voice 4: um okay

[4:06:56] Voice 4: yeah it was back back during the priorities project yeah it's a coastal divas for an

[4:07:02] Voice 4: associated ecosystem project so i'm going to move that the salt spring island local trust committee

[4:07:12] Voice 4: um authorized staff to spend up up to eleven thousand dollars eleven thousand eleven thousand

[4:07:23] Voice 5: yep

[4:07:23] Voice 4: in support of the wildfire management practices workshop yeah

[4:07:36] Voice 12: and

[4:07:38] Voice 4: I think that's

[4:07:39] Voice 4: then for the coastal Douglas fir and associated ecosystem project we understand what it means

[4:07:46] Voice 4: yeah resiliency I think

[4:07:48] Voice 4: yeah well it's yes wildfire resiliency yes now

[4:07:53] Voice 5: second that okay

[4:07:54] Voice 5: Okay, let's see what Sarah's

[4:07:55] Voice 4: got to say.

[4:07:57] Voice 3: It's supposed to have local testing after a job.

[4:08:11] Voice 12: Yep, sounds good.

[4:08:12] Voice 12: Seconded.

[4:08:12] Voice 12: Move, seconded.

[4:08:13] Voice 12: Any further discussion?

[4:08:14] Voice 12: All those in favor?

[4:08:16] Voice 10: That carries.

[4:08:17] Voice 3: Thank you.

[4:08:30] Voice 3: Anything else?

[4:08:35] Voice 11: Yes.

[4:08:37] Sorry,

[4:08:43] Voice 2: it's Chris Hutton here.

[4:08:44] Voice 2: I can't hear anything that's

[4:08:45] Voice 6: going on out here.

[4:08:46] Voice 5: The speaker's here.

[4:08:53] We

[4:09:04] Voice 11: haven't adopted 530.

[4:09:05] Voice 3: We haven't.

[4:09:06] Voice 3: Oh, sorry.

[4:09:07] Voice 11: 529 is the meeting procedures bylaw.

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[4:09:29] Voice 3: last meeting and those resolutions will trigger new information and trustee has

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[4:09:59] Voice 12: business today and

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[4:10:05] Voice 11: 140 so I'll call for adjournment all those in favor

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Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee Minutes ADOPTED 1 
October 11, 2022 
  
 
Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee 
Minutes of Regular Meeting 
 
 
Date: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 
  
Location: Community Gospel Chapel 
147 Vesuvius Bay Road, Salt Spring Island 
  
 
Members Present: 
 
 
Peter Luckham, Chair 
Laura Patrick, Local Trustee  
Peter Grove, Local Trustee 
 
Staff Present: 
 
Chris Hutton, Regional Planning Manager (RPM) (via Zoom) 
Louisa Garbo, Island Planner 
Gillian Nicol, Program Coordinator 
Stephen Baugh, Planner 2 (via Zoom) 
Rob Pingle, Planning Team Assistant 
Sarah Shugar, Recorder 
 
Others Present: 
 
Gary Holman, Capital Regional District (CRD) Salt Spring Island Electoral 
Area Director 
Gulf Islands Driftwood Reporter 
Approximately 10 members of the public  
 
These minutes follow the order of the agenda although the sequence may have varied.  
 
1. CALL TO ORDER 
 
 Chair Luckham called the meeting to order at 9:30 a.m. He welcomed everyone to a meeting of the 
Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee and humbly stated gratitude to live and work in Coast Salish 
First  Nations  treaty  and  traditional  territory. He introduced  himself,  the Trustees and  staff.  Chair 
Luckham introduced new Salt Spring Island Regional Planning Manager Chris Hutton and expressed 
appreciation to Louisa Garbo for her role as Acting Regional Planning Manager.  
  
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 
  
The following items were presented for inclusion in the agenda: 
9.6  Proposed Bylaw No. 526 - Farmworker Housing  
15.10. SS  LTC  to  B.  Young,  Chair  Transition  Salt  Spring- Dated  October  4,  2022 – Concerning 
Support for Watershed Stewardship Video Series 
 
By general consent, the agenda was adopted as amended. 
 
3. PREVIOUS MEETINGS 
 
3.1. Draft Minutes of the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee 

 
 
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3.1.1. Draft Minutes of the September 6, 2022 SSI LTC Regular Meeting 
 
By  general  consent,  the  minutes  of September  6 2022  Salt  Spring  Island  Local 
Trust Committee Regular meeting were adopted. 
 
3.2. Resolutions Without Meeting Report - None 
 
3.3. Draft Minutes of the Advisory Planning Commissions 
 
3.3.1. Advisory Planning Commission – None  
 
3.3.2. Ganges Village Area Planning Task Force - None 
 
3.3.3. Housing Action Program Task Force 
 
3.3.3.1. Draft Minutes of the September 1, 2022 Housing Action Program Task  
  Force Meeting 
 
 The minutes were received. 
 
3.3.3.2. Housing Action Program Task Force Summary of Recommendations 
  
 The Summary of Recommendations was received. 
 
3.4. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee Public Hearing Record - None 
 
4. BUSINESS ARISING FROM MINUTES 
 
4.1. Follow Up Action List dated October 2022 
 
The report was received. 
 
 By general consent, the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee agreed that Item 4 dated 
August 9, 2022 - “Budget Business Case for Salt Spring LTC Projects” should be renamed as 
“Ganges  Village  Area  Advocacy” and  request  staff  to  forward  the  item to the Executive 
Committee. 
 
5. COMMUNITY INFORMATION MEETING – None 
 
6. PUBLIC HEARING – None 
 
7. REPORTS 
 
7.1. Policy and Standing Resolutions List 
 
The report was received. 
 

 
 
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7.2. Work Program Top Priorities Report dated October 2022 
 
The report was received. 
 
There was a question regarding the status of Item 3 - “Protection of the Coastal Douglas Fir 
and Associated Ecosystems – June 2022 RFP for wildfire ecologist”. Planner Garbo reported 
no  bids  were  received  for  the  Request  for  Proposals.  There  will  be  unspent  money  as  a 
result. 
 
SS-2022-156 
 It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee authorize staff to spend up to $11,000 in 
support  of  the  Wildfire  Management  Practices  workshop  for  the  Coastal  Douglas-fir  and 
Associated Ecosystems project. 
CARRIED 
Trust Tool  
7.3. Projects List dated October 2022 
 
The report was received. 
 
7.4. Applications with Status Report dated October 2022 
 
The report was received. 
 
7.5. Expense Report dated July 2022 
 
 The report was received. 
 
7.6. Islands Trust Conservancy Board Report dated July 2022 
 
 The report was received. 
 
7.7. Salt  Spring  Island  Watershed  Protection  Alliance (SSIWPA)  Coordinator's  Report dated 
September 2022 
 
 The report was received. 
 
7.8. Housing Action Program Task Force - Chair's Update  
 
 There was no Chair update. 
 
SS-2022-157 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee request Chair Luckham to send a letter to 
the  Housing  Action  Program Task Force to express the LTC’s appreciation  of  their  work  to 
date and look forward to their ongoing work. 
CARRIED 
 

 
 
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8. LOCAL TRUST COMMITTEE PROJECTS – None 
 
9. OTHER BUSINESS 
 
9.1 Referral of Islands Trust Conservancy Three-Year Plan 
 
 A  staff  report  dated  September  14,  2022  regarding the referral of  the  Islands Trust 
Conservancy Three-Year Plan 2023-2025 was presented. 
 
SS-2022-158 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee request staff to respond to the referral of 
the   Islands   Trust   Conservancy   Three-Year   Plan   2023-2025   from   the   Island   Trust 
Conservancy and thank them for their work. 
CARRIED 
 
9.2.  Development Permit Delegation Bylaw 
 
Planner Garbo presented a staff report dated September 20, 2022 concerning the drafting 
of a delegation bylaw to delegate the issuance of certain development permits to staff. 
 
SS-2022-159 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee request staff to prepare a draft bylaw that 
would delegate the issuance of development permits to staff for the following development 
permit areas within the Salt Spring Island Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 434, 2008: 
 
a. Development  Permit  Area  3  (Marine  Shorelines),  Development  Permit  Area  4  (Lakes, 
Streams and Wetlands), Development Permit Area 5 (Community Well Capture Zones), 
Development    Permit    Area    6 (Slope    Stability    and    Soil    Erosion    Hazards),    and 
Development Permit Area 7 (Riparian Areas). 
CARRIED 
 
9.3.  Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee Term Report 
 
 Planner Garbo presented a staff report dated September 14, 2022 regarding the 2018-2022 
LTC Term Summary Report. 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
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 By  general consent, Trustees noted  the following  items are  missing  from  the Salt  Spring 
Island Local Trust Committee Term Report: 
 The Water Sustainability Project should include “funded phase one of the groundwater 
recharge mapping project”; 
 The  Temporary  Use  Permits for  Secondary  Suites  and  Cottages project should  include 
“recreational vehicles”; 
 The Strategic Priority/OCP Review project should be two separate items; 
 The Housing Action project should include the Housing Working Group and report; 
 The Climate  Action  Plan and  the Salt  Spring  Island Area  Farm  Plan are two  major 
community initiatives that were completed. 
 
SS-2022-160 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee amend the projects list with the following 
addition:   Review   and Update   of   Development   Permit   Areas   under   Item   1 - OCP 
Amendments. 
CARRIED 
 
SS-2022-161 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That  the  Salt  Spring  Island  Local  Trust  Committee endorse  the ‘Top  Priorities  List’ and 
‘Projects List’ as amended for further consideration by the incoming Local Trust Committee. 
CARRIED 
 
9.4.  2023-2024  Budget - Consideration  of  sending  both  local  trustees  to  attend  the  Union  of 
BC Municipalities convention in 2023  
 
 Trustee  Patrick  expressed  support  for  both  local Trustees  to  attend  the  Union  of  BC 
Municipalities  convention  to  advance  the  work  of  the Islands  Trust  and  advocate  for 
community initiatives.  
  
 SS-2022-162 
 It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
 That  the  Salt  Spring  Island  Local  Trust  Committee request  staff  to  add  a  budget  allocation 
for two Local Trustees to attend the Union of BC Municipalities convention in 2023. 
 CARRIED 
Trustee Grove OPPOSED 
 
9.5.  November Meeting Schedule  
 
 SS-2022-163 
 It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
 That  the  Salt  Spring  Island  Local  Trust  Committee  direct  staff  to  cancel  the  November  15, 
2022 Regular Business meeting as a result of the rescheduled Trust Council Meeting as well 
as  to  not  proceed  with  arranging  the  quarterly  Special  Meeting  in  November with  the 
Agricultural  Advisory  Planning  Commission  and  the  Salt  Spring  Island  Agricultural  Alliance, 
and to notify the public accordingly. 
CARRIED 

 
 
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9.6 Proposed Bylaw No. 526 - Farmworker Housing  
 
Planner Garbo presented a staff report dated August 20, 2022 concerning proposed Bylaw 
No. 526 – Changes to Residential Permissions in the Agricultural Land Reserve and Options 
for Dwellings on Large Farms. 
 
SS-2022-164 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That  the  Salt  Spring  Island  Local Trust  Committee  adopt Proposed  Bylaw  No.  526,  cited  as 
“Salt Spring Island Land Use Bylaw No. 355, 1999, Amendment No. 3, 2021.” 
CARRIED 
 
10. CLOSED MEETING – None 
  
The meeting recessed for a lunch break at 10:33 a.m. and reconvened at 12:07 p.m. 
 
11. OTHER BUSINESS  
 
11.1.  New Business  
 
11.1.1. Community Stewardship Awards  
 
Chair Luckham presented the 2022 Community Stewardship Awards to: 
 Kees Ruurs for "Fourteen Years of Community Service";  
 Catherine   Valentine   and  Gavin  Johnston  of  the  Salt  Spring  Island  Natural 
Cemetery  and the "Creation  of  a  Sustainable  Cemetery  that  Protects  Forested 
Lands"; and  
 Dr. Ruth Waldick for her work on "Building Lake Maxwell’s Watershed Resiliency 
and Forest Fire Resilience”. 
 
The meeting recessed for a coffee social at 12:15 p.m. and reconvened at 12:22 p.m. 
 
  11.1.2.  Celebration of Trustee Peter Grove's 11 Years of Service as Islands Trust Trustee 
 
  Chair Luckham acknowledged Trustee Grove for his 11 years of service as a Local 
Trustee. Trustee  Grove expressed  gratitude  to  fellow Trustees, past  and  present 
staff members, the Driftwood newspaper and spoke to his time as a Local Trustee. 
  
12. TRUSTEE REPORTS 
  
Trustee Patrick spoke  to  the  work  done  this  term  on  affordable  housing  initiatives  and  reported 
that  Trust  Council  supported the  following  motion “Trust Council affirms it’s understanding that 
preservation  and  protection  of  the  natural,  terrestrial  and  marine  environment  is  central  to  the 
mandate  of  the  Islands  Trust  and  that  the  responsibility  must  be  given  special  and  profound 
consideration  in  all decisions.” Trustee  Patrick  expressed  support  for  integrated  solutions  to 
address  the  challenges on  Salt  Spring  Island  and  multi-generational  sustainability  that address 
equity, diversity and inclusion in a meaningful way. 
 

 
 
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13. CHAIR'S REPORT  
 
Chair Luckham reported he attended the 2022 Union of BC Municipalities convention on September 
12  to 16,  2022 to  advance  the  work of  the  Islands  Trust.  Chair  Luckham  attended Trust  Council in 
September  2022  and  reported  work  is  underway  to  support  the  transition  to  a new  Trust  Council 
following the October 15, 2022 Local Elections. Chair Luckham expressed appreciation for working 
with the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee. 
 
14. CRD DIRECTOR'S REPORT  
 
Director Holman presented the following report: 
 The BC Housing temporary housing site on Kings Lane is ready for tenants to move in although 
the  tenants  have  not  moved  to  Kings  Lane  and several of  the Seabreeze  Inne  tenants  have 
disputed the notice of eviction; 
 The Lady Minto Hospital Foundation is planning to renovate the Seabreeze Inne for healthcare 
worker housing; 
 The BC Housing Drake Road 28-unit supported housing project is underway; 
 The  CRD  has  leased  the property  on  Drake  Road  to  BC  Housing  for  affordable  housing  and 
there is potential for an additional 50-units of affordable housing.  
 The Salt Spring Island Land Bank’s “Bracket Springs” property and Dean Road property are in 
the  process  of foreclosure  and two non-profit  organizations  have  interest  in  owning  and 
operating each of the properties for affordable housing; 
 The Dragonfly Commons Affordable Housing project has entered discussions with the CRD to 
operate a Community Water System for the property; 
 Director  Holman  supports the establishment  of  a  Local  Community  Commission (LCC) and 
there will be a Salt Spring Island LCC Referendum at the Local Elections on October 15, 2022. 
He  advised  an  LCC  would  consist  of  a  Director  and  four  Commissions  that  would  have 
delegated authority for eleven local services; 
 The  Tsawout  First Nation  will  be  celebrating  completion  of  their  new  Big House  on  October 
20, 2022. 
 
15. CORRESPONDENCE 
 
15.1.   J. Clark to S. Hart, Executive Director General, Spectrum Management Operations Branch, 
 Spectrum  and  Telecommunications  Sector,  cc.  LTC  et  al - Dated  September  5,  2022 - 
 Concerning Rogers Tower proposal at Channel Ridge, SSI  
  
 The correspondence item was received. 
 
15.2.   O.  McOuat  to  S.  Hart,  Executive  Director  General,  Spectrum  Management  Operations 
 Branch,  Spectrum  and  Telecommunications  Sector,  cc.  LTC  et  al - Dated  September  8, 
 2022 - Concerning Rogers Tower proposal at Channel Ridge, SSI    
 
 The correspondence item was received. 
 
15.3.   Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee to J. Clark and O. McOuat - Dated September 20, 
 2022 - Concerning Wireless Telecommunications site at Channel Ridge, Salt Spring Island    

 
 
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 The correspondence item was received. 
 
15.4.   O. McOuat to SS Office, cc. LTC et al - Dated September 26, 2022 - Concerning LTC Public 
 Letter re: Wireless Telecommunications at Channel Ridge - Dated September 20, 2022  
 
The correspondence item was received. 
 
15.5.   North  Salt  Spring  Waterworks  District  to  Trustee  Patrick - Dated  September  22,  2022 - 
 Concerning  Motion  passed  at  a  North  Salt  Spring  Waterworks  District  Trustee's  Special 
 Open Meeting    
 
 The correspondence item was received. 
 
SS-2022-165 
 It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That  the  Salt  Spring  Island  Local  Trust  Committee request  staff  to  work  with  North  Salt 
Spring Waterworks District Manager on opportunities to coordinate and report back to the 
LTC. 
CARRIED 
 
  
15.6.   Youth Parliament of British Columbia Alumni Society to LTC - Dated September 19, 2022 - 
 Concerning British Columbia Youth Parliament, 94th Parliament    
 
 The correspondence item was received. 
 
SS-2022-166 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That   the   Salt   Spring   Island   Local   Trust   Committee   request   staff   to   forward   the 
correspondence  received  from the Youth  Parliament  of  British  Columbia  Alumni  Society 
dated September 19, 2022 to School District 64. 
CARRIED 
 
  
15.7.   SS LTC to S. Woloszyn, CEO of City West - Dated September 12, 2022 - Concerning Support 
 for City West Piers Island Association's Application for Funding    
 
 The correspondence item was received. 
 
15.8.   S. Woloszyn, CEO of City West to SS LTC - Dated September 29, 2022 Concerning Support 
 for City West Piers Island Association's Application for Funding    
 
 The correspondence item was received. 
 
15.9.  R.  Schnurr,  Director  of  Piers  Island  Association  to  SS  LTC - Dated  September  29,  2022 - 
 Concerning Support for City West Piers Island Association's Application for Funding 

 
 
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 The correspondence item was received. 
 
15.10. SS  LTC  to  B.  Young,  Chair  Transition  Salt  Spring- Dated  October  4,  2022 - Concerning 
 Support for Watershed Stewardship Video Series 
 
  The correspondence item was received. 
 
 
16. DELEGATIONS 
 
16.1. J.   Clark,   Spokesperson   for   Concerned   Residents   of   Canvasback   Place,   concerning 
 "Update  re:  September  26,  2022  Meeting  with  Concerned  Residents  of  Canvasback 
 Place and Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada 
 
 Julian Clark presented concerns on behalf of the Concerned Residents of Canvasback Place 
regarding the Rogers telecommunications tower proposal at  Channel Ridge.  He presented 
highlights   from   the   delegation   materials   included   in   the   agenda   package.   Mr.   Clark 
requested  the  Salt  Spring Island  Local  Trust  Committee acknowledge the 2001 Salt  Spring 
Island Antenna Siting Policy; provide all valid rationale  for rescindment of the  concurrence 
decision to Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada (ISED) and that the Salt 
Spring   Island   Local   Trust   Committee obtain   an   injunction preventing Rogers from 
developing the proposed site. 
 
Chair Luckham asked  Mr. Clark if Rogers has advanced any work on the Channel Ridge site. 
Mr. Clark advised the Chair that Rogers has not  done work on the site since  July 28, 2022. 
There was discussion regarding the LTC’s rescindment of the tower siting concurrence 
decision. 
   
 SS-2022-167 
 It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee request Chair Luckham to write a letter to 
Rogers concerning the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee’s rescindment of the tower 
siting concurrence decision. 
CARRIED 
 
17. TOWN HALL AND QUESTIONS 
 
Chair Luckham opened the Town Hall at 1:30 p.m.  There were no speakers in the town hall portion 
of the meeting. 
 
18. APPLICATIONS AND REFERRALS 
 
18.1. SS-DVP-2022.11 - P. Edgar - 227 Roland Road, SSI  
 
 Planner Baugh   presented   a   staff   report   dated   September   22,   2022   regarding   a 
Development  Variance  Permit  application  for  the  siting  of  an  existing  dwelling  and a deck 
located within the front and interior side lot line setbacks. 

 
 
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 The applicant was present on Zoom. 
 
SS-2022-168 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee approve issuance of SS-DVP-2022.11 (227 
Roland Road). 
CARRIED 
 
19. UPCOMING MEETINGS 
 
The next regular meeting of the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee is scheduled for 9:30 a.m. 
on Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at the Community Gospel Chapel, 147 Vesuvius Bay Road, Salt 
Spring Island. Please see the meeting calendar on the Islands Trust website at 
www.islandstrust.bc.ca for current meeting information and location. 
 
20. ADJOURNMENT 
 
 By general consent the meeting adjourned at 1:40 p.m. 
 
 
 
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Peter Luckham, Chair 
 
CERTIFIED CORRECT: 
 
 
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Sarah Shugar, Recorder