Galiano Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, May 9, 2023

[0:00:02] Voice 3: Okay, then. Welcome back to any members of the public. We're returning from our in-camera session, and in terms of RISE and report, report that we received legal advice around the groundwater DPA.

[0:00:24] Voice 3: And so we don't have an awful, oh, I see, we do, pardon me.

[0:00:34] Voice 3: So we have the next section is on page 2 to 17, which is the Galeano Island Local Trust Committee Proposed Bylaws 283 and 284.

[0:00:45] Voice 3: We have them attached here.

[0:00:50] Voice 3: And as to what further action we want to take today, I'd like to hear from trustees.

[0:01:03] Voice 4: next steps there's lots of opportunity here next for me i i i think you

[0:01:16] Voice 6: know this is an

[0:01:17] Voice 6: opportunity to maybe um review the extent of consultation that was done on the dp and let's

[0:01:26] Voice 6: we can get a report back from staff and um and just make some decisions on on consulting with

[0:01:34] Voice 6: of the three groups that we identified earlier and and and i think that'll

[0:01:41] Voice 4: clarify the you know

[0:01:42] Voice 4: the direction that we're going to take yeah i agree okay um i

[0:01:49] Voice 8: do remember council we um sorry

[0:01:51] Voice 8: i didn't mean to speak out of turn go ahead

[0:01:54] Voice 8: um at trust council we've we actually established a

[0:01:59] Voice 8: reconciliation learning group haven't we at the last march trust council i

[0:02:07] Voice 3: believe that it's

[0:02:08] Voice 3: underway I don't know that it's established at this time I don't think it's been populated

[0:02:16] Voice 8: yeah we've

[0:02:17] Voice 3: agreed to do that but yeah yeah

[0:02:19] Voice 8: this would be a great thing to refer to a group like

[0:02:23] Voice 8: that yeah uh

[0:02:25] Voice 3: planner Shadwick did I see your hand up for a moment there um

[0:02:30] Planner Chadwick (probable): slightly I I just um

[0:02:31] Planner Chadwick (probable): Um, uh, uh, following on, uh, what trustee Maberly, I had a question there, uh, with

[0:02:38] Planner Chadwick (probable): respect to, um, uh, consultation.

[0:02:41] Planner Chadwick (probable): So we did send out the, um, uh, as, as, um, directed by the LTC, we did send out the,

[0:02:51] Planner Chadwick (probable): um, the amendment with, uh, with the section P in it, uh, to, um, first nations.

[0:03:03] Planner Chadwick (probable): So that is our, you know, the nations that we would ordinarily send out our engagement,

[0:03:16] Planner Chadwick (probable): those that are on our list, basically.

[0:03:20] Planner Chadwick (probable): So I, was I hearing that there was interest in some additional engagement?

[0:03:26] Planner Chadwick (probable): Because we have not done that.

[0:03:27] Planner Chadwick (probable): we've just sent it to the nation as we would usually do the ones that are uh the actual

[0:03:34] Planner Chadwick (probable): nation contacts that we have on our list yeah

[0:03:38] Voice 3: thank you uh trustee gabriel

[0:03:40] Planner Chadwick (probable): um yeah was there

[0:03:42] Planner Chadwick (probable): any response we didn't receive anything uh back then yeah and

[0:03:47] Voice 3: sorry just to follow up on that

[0:03:50] Voice 3: in terms of the timing um when was that when did that go out or or sort of what's the what's the

[0:03:58] Voice 3: timeline to today yeah

[0:03:59] Planner Chadwick (probable): so um i know jazz just sent so the the period of it went out shortly

[0:04:06] Planner Chadwick (probable): after that meeting in march so the um it would have the the two-month period or that that we

[0:04:16] Planner Chadwick (probable): provided uh we we would have we would have been past that now is uh when i remember the response

[0:04:24] Planner Chadwick (probable): that I got from DAS when I checked in on that.

[0:04:27] Voice 3: Thank you.

[0:04:28] Voice 3: Trustee Mabry?

[0:04:31] Voice 6: Yeah, I mean, I think based on our last meeting,

[0:04:38] Voice 6: DPs are a little bit different because they affect,

[0:04:40] Voice 6: these are things that affect individual landowners.

[0:04:43] Voice 6: There would be members of the Penelope Nation,

[0:04:48] Voice 6: the Coast Salish Peoples of Galliano and the Georgian family,

[0:04:50] Voice 6: all who would be directly affected by this DP.

[0:04:53] Voice 6: and they're all indigenous groups that have been here for long before uh um we were here

[0:05:01] Voice 6: uh so i think it's incumbent on us to get an answer from these three groups rather than just

[0:05:08] Voice 6: relying on our you know the status quo of mailing something out and and seeing whether we're going

[0:05:13] Voice 6: to get a response or not i think the the um the risk of not doing that is exactly where we ended

[0:05:21] Voice 6: it up in that rezoning is is instead of really having a um sort of a wholesome consultation

[0:05:30] Voice 6: right at the beginning we end up at the end and and we're we're thrown into a bit of uh

[0:05:37] Voice 6: turmoil because of it and so i think there's you know there's a there's good cause to

[0:05:45] Voice 6: to recheck what we've done and and to um um reach out to all three

[0:05:52] Voice 4: groups for a response

[0:05:57] Voice 3: so my sense is that if if we want to do more than what we usually do that staff would like

[0:06:05] Voice 3: some direction in the form of a resolution am i am i right on that stuff i'm seeing nods um so if

[0:06:12] Voice 3: If we want to do that today, I'd encourage one of you to put together a resolution to that effect so we can get that going.

[0:06:21] Voice 3: I'm noting that looking at the schedule, our next regular LTC is not till June 20th.

[0:06:27] Voice 3: so i think in terms of um in terms of timing and and not stretching things out inordinately i think

[0:06:36] Voice 3: it'd be better if we can get staff a resolution today rather than waiting till till the 20th of

[0:06:44] Voice 3: june to do so uh but having said that i'm happy to hear any other thoughts from trustees about uh

[0:06:54] Voice 3: about our where we want to go from from today or if there's things other things that we might

[0:07:00] Voice 3: want to consider doing today

[0:07:01] Voice 8: yeah fantastic I did talk to a couple community members who were a

[0:07:08] Voice 8: little had concerns about this meeting and our transparency in it the notification of the meeting

[0:07:14] Voice 8: what was going to happen and around these particular bylaws so in the interest of

[0:07:20] Voice 8: of transparency, I'd like to see the next steps happen

[0:07:24] Voice 8: at the next meeting in particular,

[0:07:28] Voice 8: I don't feel comfortable voting on second reading

[0:07:31] Voice 8: or anything like that to be clear,

[0:07:33] Voice 8: but I would certainly entertain a motion to deepen

[0:07:37] Voice 8: and broaden our reconciliation strategy

[0:07:40] Voice 8: as the Galliano committee.

[0:07:42] Voice 8: I would support a motion if a trustee

[0:07:47] Voice 8: may really like to make one.

[0:07:49] Voice 3: okay thank you for that and um and i tend to agree um uh with what you just said

[0:07:57] Voice 3: and uh it looks like trustee maberly might be writing over there

[0:08:06] Voice 6: and uh

[0:08:07] Voice 6: i'm trying to i'm trying to

[0:08:09] Voice 3: this is where i rely on staff so heavily

[0:08:13] Voice 3: crafting motions on the fly is is is a tricky business for all of us even even

[0:08:19] Voice 3: Even having eight years of experience in trust counsel and LTC work, it's not easy to do quickly to get down, you know, really what you want.

[0:08:34] Voice 3: Sometimes it is.

[0:08:36] Voice 3: But we'll just give you a moment, sir, and let you take a little bit of time to do that.

[0:08:49] Voice 4: Yeah, I mean, it's just a matter of, I'm not sure how in

[0:08:53] Voice 6: -depth staff wants it to be, right?

[0:08:54] Voice 6: right

[0:08:55] Voice 3: well my my experience is that's that the more specific we are the clearer staff is on what

[0:09:03] Voice 3: our intention is um so take that as your goal yeah

[0:09:10] Planner Chadwick (probable): and in this case like we will need to know

[0:09:14] Planner Chadwick (probable): specifically who you it's a sort of a targeted engagement so yeah just

[0:09:18] Planner Chadwick (probable): know specifically who

[0:09:19] Planner Chadwick (probable): you want uh to engage um

[0:09:23] Voice 6: yeah so i mean i that this is where i would go i um i'd like to make

[0:09:28] Voice 6: a motion to direct staff to consult with the penelicate the coast salish peoples of galliano

[0:09:32] Voice 6: and the georgeson family and to receive advice on bylaw number 283 is that what i would refer to

[0:09:41] Voice 6: uh

[0:09:43] Planner Chadwick (probable): 284 or 283 yes yeah

[0:09:47] Voice 6: uh development permit area um or i wouldn't refer to that maybe

[0:09:54] Voice 6: yep

[0:09:55] Planner Chadwick (probable): cited as galliano island official i can uh i can give the yeah we have to put the citing

[0:10:04] Planner Chadwick (probable): related to um yeah bylaw number 283 cited as galliano island official community plan bylaw

[0:10:12] Planner Chadwick (probable): number 108 1995 but etc etc here i can why don't i isolate that and um and just uh share my screen

[0:10:24] Planner Chadwick (probable): so that

[0:10:25] Voice 3: and then uh planner stock bill has um in the chat has had a suggestion which says

[0:10:32] Voice 3: any comments related to exemption p in that bylaw which is definitely more more specific

[0:10:42] Voice 4: and perhaps, I mean, of course

[0:10:47] Voice 3: we welcome comments

[0:10:47] Voice 3: on any of it, but maybe we could say,

[0:10:50] Voice 3: and especially, or something like that,

[0:10:53] Voice 3: some way of highlighting that we do welcome comments

[0:10:57] Voice 3: on any of it, but in particular, maybe,

[0:11:00] Voice 3: in particular exemption P.

[0:11:07] Voice 4: Right, so bylaw number 23,

[0:11:09] Voice 6: Galliano Island Christian Community Plan

[0:11:12] Voice 6: bylaw number 108, 1995, amendment number one, 2002,

[0:11:17] Voice 6: in reference to exemption p and

[0:11:23] Voice 8: then

[0:11:25] Voice 6: you can just put exemption p

[0:11:26] Voice 4: exemptions item p

[0:11:28] Voice 4: oh sorry yeah so these

[0:11:33] Planner Chadwick (probable): are some of the other options but here you can see the language here

[0:11:37] Planner Chadwick (probable): so yeah um would be exemption p yeah 44.4 p and i mean you could add that if you want

[0:11:50] Planner Chadwick (probable): the actual exemption yeah

[0:11:52] Voice 6: that's i mean i think it's a it would be

[0:11:54] Planner Chadwick (probable): good to add

[0:11:55] Voice 6: the exemption yeah

[0:11:56] Voice 6: so can we see what that looked like when once it's all put together so

[0:12:01] Planner Chadwick (probable): i'll stop sharing because i

[0:12:02] Planner Chadwick (probable): i haven't been taking notes on that but i'm assuming that our note taker has been okay i

[0:12:08] Voice 3: was just going to suggest that maybe we ask the recorder to to share with us what what they have

[0:12:14] Voice 3: have so far for us I

[0:12:18] Voice 4: have that oh hello hello

[0:12:22] Voice 3: go ahead Catherine that

[0:12:25] Voice 2: the Galeano Island Local

[0:12:27] Voice 2: Trust Committee directs staff to engage with the Georgian family the Coast Salish of Galeano

[0:12:32] Voice 2: and the Penelope First Nation regarding bylaw number 283 cited as Galeano official bylaw number

[0:12:41] Voice 2: Number 108, 1995 Amendment Number 1, 2002, in reference to Exemption Item 44.4P.

[0:12:51] Voice 2: The

[0:12:54] Voice 6: only difference there is it's the Georgeson family.

[0:12:58] Voice 6: Yes.

[0:12:59] Voice 2: Oh, sorry.

[0:13:01] Voice 2: Oh, yes, if you could spell that out for me.

[0:13:04] Voice 6: Yeah, G-E-O-R-G-E-S-O-N.

[0:13:09] Voice 6: And

[0:13:12] Voice 2: that's complete, then, just the Georgeson family?

[0:13:16] Voice 4: yep and

[0:13:17] Voice 2: then the next one was the Coast Salish of Galliano the

[0:13:23] Voice 6: Coast Salish Peoples of Galliano

[0:13:25] Voice 6: Coast Salish Peoples

[0:13:27] Voice 2: of Galliano Society yep

[0:13:30] Voice 4: and

[0:13:32] Voice 2: then the next one would be the Penelope First

[0:13:35] Voice 2: Nation

[0:13:35] Voice 4: okay uh Planner Stockdale um

[0:13:46] Voice 1: the only and if I could just make a friendly amendment I think

[0:13:50] Voice 1: it's just easier to reference exemption p rather rather than adding i think you had 44.4

[0:13:56] Voice 1: which i don't believe is correct but i think if you just say exemption p um staff understands

[0:14:01] Voice 1: what that is okay

[0:14:04] Voice 2: and then the only thing missing was chair peterson's um consideration of putting

[0:14:12] Voice 2: an especially for something or

[0:14:15] Voice 3: in particular or

[0:14:16] Voice 2: in particular for something or

[0:14:19] Voice 3: um and that

[0:14:20] Voice 3: That was for Exemption P.

[0:14:22] Voice 3: So my thinking, because Trustee Mabry that you're making

[0:14:27] Voice 3: this motion and you own it, but by my consideration

[0:14:30] Voice 3: of saying was in particular was that we welcome

[0:14:33] Voice 3: any comments on any of it, but in particular.

[0:14:38] Voice 3: So are you okay with that language being in there?

[0:14:41] Voice 6: Yeah, in

[0:14:42] Voice 6: particular Exemption P?

[0:14:44] Voice 6: We want them, we want all three parties to look at the DP

[0:14:48] Voice 6: as a whole and and in particular um okay

[0:14:52] Voice 3: you're happy with that then

[0:14:53] Voice 6: i'm

[0:14:54] Voice 3: happy let's have let's

[0:14:56] Voice 3: have katherine read it one more time so we we've got uh everything the way we want it and that

[0:15:02] Voice 3: staff um understands uh what we're intending so let's have it one more time please katherine

[0:15:10] Voice 2: that the galliano island local trust committee directs staff to engage with the georgias and

[0:15:16] Voice 2: and Family, the Coast Salish Peoples of Galliano Society

[0:15:21] Voice 2: and the Penelope First Nation regarding bylaw number 283,

[0:15:27] Voice 2: cited as Galliano official bylaw number 108, 1995,

[0:15:33] Voice 2: amendment number one, 2002, in reference in particular

[0:15:38] Voice 2: to exemption item P.

[0:15:45] Voice 4: I have a amendment.

[0:15:46] Voice 4: Everybody happy with that?

[0:15:47] Voice 4: I have

[0:15:48] Voice 3: a slight

[0:15:50] Voice 8: suggestion for a friendly amendment.

[0:15:53] Voice 8: A direct staff to engage for comment.

[0:15:58] Voice 8: Okay.

[0:15:59] Voice 8: So we can be more specific.

[0:16:02] Voice 8: Okay.

[0:16:03] Voice 8: What our goal is, is that, how does that sound?

[0:16:05] Voice 8: Rather than-

[0:16:06] Voice 4: Yeah, yeah, every amendment is friendly.

[0:16:08] Voice 4: Yeah.

[0:16:11] Voice 4: As long as we're all comfortable with it.

[0:16:15] Voice 2: Yeah.

[0:16:16] Voice 2: It would be direct staff to engage for comment with

[0:16:21] Voice 2: et cetera, et cetera.

[0:16:24] Voice 5: Yeah.

[0:16:26] Voice 4: All right then trustees, are we happy with that?

[0:16:29] Voice 3: And staff, you have what you need?

[0:16:34] Voice 3: Yeah.

[0:16:35] Voice 3: Staff is good.

[0:16:37] Voice 3: So we'll take that as moved by Trustee Mabry then?

[0:16:42] Voice 3: Second.

[0:16:43] Voice 3: And then Trustee Gavreau is going to second it.

[0:16:46] Voice 3: Any further discussion?

[0:16:48] Voice 8: One thing I just want to make sure that's stated

[0:16:50] Voice 8: that we're only addressing three individuals.

[0:16:53] Voice 8: We're not addressing all others, many nations, and tribes that have land claims to Galliano.

[0:17:00] Voice 8: Are we going to, for the purposes of this particular referral?

[0:17:06] Voice 8: Yeah, anybody help me out here.

[0:17:09] Voice 3: I see Trustee Chadwick.

[0:17:10] Voice 3: Sorry.

[0:17:11] Voice 3: Trustee.

[0:17:12] Planner Chadwick (probable): Go ahead, Chadwick.

[0:17:14] Voice 3: Through the chair.

[0:17:14] Planner Chadwick (probable): Yeah, so we've already done that.

[0:17:16] Planner Chadwick (probable): we've already sent the you know we have our list of all when we do a uh when we send out something

[0:17:23] Planner Chadwick (probable): for um first nations engagement comment um we do we do have the list of all the nations that

[0:17:29] Planner Chadwick (probable): you know that are within the area so that's that's the referral that we've already done

[0:17:34] Planner Chadwick (probable): um so this this is this is a targeted to those groups great are

[0:17:42] Voice 4: you good with that lisa um i

[0:17:44] Voice 8: I, I am, I will be, I am, I will be okay with that. Yeah.

[0:17:47] Voice 8: I think this is an important

[0:17:52] Voice 8: as a thoughtful way to deal with something that could be lead to something

[0:17:57] Voice 8: very meaningful for our community. So I am in favor.

[0:18:01] Voice 8: Okay.

[0:18:04] Voice 4: Thank you. Any further discussion? Okay.

[0:18:09] Voice 3: I'm not seeing any, so I'll call the question all in favor.

[0:18:12] Voice 3: and that is unanimous so is there any further direction that uh trustees want to take today

[0:18:24] Voice 3: or are we gonna go to adjournment i know that some staff have some hefty schedules going on so

[0:18:32] Voice 3: um we can defer the rest of our discussions around this till our next uh regular meeting

[0:18:40] Voice 3: is that agreeable yeah absolutely okay so i'll call for adjournment i'll call for adjournment

[0:18:48] Voice 3: then and uh all those in favor all right so meetings adjourned thank you very much thank

[0:18:55] Voice 3: you staff and for being there and katherine as always you're a wonderful minute taker

[0:19:01] Voice 3: and uh hope you all have a great afternoon we'll see you later thank

[0:19:06] Voice 4: you bye bye

Galiano Local Trust Committee 
Special Business Meeting 
May 9, 2023 ADOPTED Page 1 of 2 
 
Galiano Island Local Trust Committee 
Minutes of Special Meeting 
 
Date:  
Location:  
May 9, 2023 
Electronic Meeting 
 
Members Present: Tim Peterson, Chair 
 Ben Mabberley, Local Trustee 
 Lisa Gauvreau, Local Trustee 
  
Staff Present: Kim Stockdill, Island Planner 
 Narissa Chadwick, Island Planner 
 Katherine Vogt, Recorder 
 
1. CALL TO ORDER 
Chair Peterson called the special meeting to order at 2:07 p.m. He acknowledged that the 
meeting was held on the territory of the Coast Salish First Nations. 
 
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 
By general consent, the agenda was approved as presented. 
 
3. CLOSED MEETING (Distributed Under Separate Cover) 
3.1 Motion to Close Meeting 
GL-2023-034 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the meeting be closed to the public in accordance with the Community 
Charter, Part 4, Division 3 s. 90(1)(i) for the purpose of considering the receipt of 
advice that is subject to solicitor-client privilege, including communications 
necessary for that purpose; and that the recorder and staff attend the meeting. 
CARRIED 
The meeting was closed at 2:10 p.m. 
3.2 Recall to Order 
By general consent, the meeting was called to order at 2:33 p.m. 
3.3 Rise and Report 
Chair Peterson reported that the LTC had received legal advice regarding the proposed 
Groundwater Recharge Protection Development Permit Area at the closed meeting. 
 
A D O P T E D 

 
Galiano Local Trust Committee 
Special Business Meeting 
May 9, 2023 ADOPTED Page 2 of 2 
4. BUSINESS 
4.1 Galiano Island Local Trust Committee Proposed Bylaws 283 and 284  
Trustees discussed the proposed Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 283 and the 
proposed Land Use Bylaw No. 284, noting the following: 
 The establishment of a reconciliation learning group at Islands Trust Council is 
underway; and may become helpful for working through local issues. 
o A planner noted that the proposed bylaw Item P exemption was included in 
the bylaw referral sent to First Nations in March 2023; and no response has 
been received. 
 Some community members had recently expressed concerns regarding 
transparency of the proposed bylaw proceedings. 
GL-2023-035 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Galiano Island Local Trust Committee direct Staff to engage for 
comment with the Georgeson family, the Coast Salish Peoples of Galiano 
Society; and the Penelakut First Nation regarding Bylaw No. 283, cited as 
Galiano Island Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 108, 1995 Amendment No. 1, 
2002, in reference in particular to exemption Item P. 
CARRIED 
Further discussion of the bylaws was deferred to the next scheduled Local Trust 
Committee meeting on June 20, 2023. 
 
5. ADJOURNMENT 
By general consent, the meeting was adjourned at 2:54 p.m. 
 
 
 
_________________________ 
Tim Peterson, Chair 
 
 
 
Certified Correct: 
 
 
 
_________________________ 
Katherine Vogt, Recorder