Galiano Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, September 12, 2023

[0:00:00] Voice 3: galliano island local trust committee i've been asked to let everyone know there's some

[0:00:05] Voice 3: refreshments uh back here for sale and start by acknowledging that we're meeting in the territory

[0:00:12] Voice 3: of posales peoples and specifically the malacate nation and you'll see ken thomas here counselor

[0:00:20] Voice 3: and some other members here and the public uh my name is tim peterson i am the chair of the

[0:00:26] Voice 3: the Galliano Island Local Trust Committee.

[0:00:29] Voice 3: With me is Trustee Ben Maberly and Lisa Gavreau

[0:00:33] Voice 3: and our planner, Kim Stockdale.

[0:00:36] Voice 3: And welcome.

[0:00:40] Voice 3: So we have an agenda before us.

[0:00:42] Voice 3: Let's check if there's any additions

[0:00:44] Voice 3: or changes to the agenda.

[0:00:47] Voice 3: Seeing none, we'll take it by general consent

[0:00:50] Voice 3: that the agenda is approved as presented.

[0:00:53] Voice 3: And first item up is trustee reports.

[0:00:56] Voice 3: Who would like to start today?

[0:00:58] Voice 3: Good, thanks.

[0:01:01] Voice 2: Nice to see everyone.

[0:01:02] Voice 2: It's been a good summer.

[0:01:03] Voice 2: Since our last LTC meeting, I've been keeping my

[0:01:06] Voice 2: hours and

[0:01:09] Voice 2: my trusty hours

[0:01:10] Voice 2: and meeting with people from our community.

[0:01:13] Voice 2: It's been a summer,

[0:01:14] Voice 2: busy summer's night.

[0:01:16] Voice 2: I did manage to partake in two workshops

[0:01:18] Voice 2: hosted by the Indigenous

[0:01:20] Voice 2: Perspective Society of BC.

[0:01:22] Voice 2: Our workshops were centered on

[0:01:24] Voice 2: cultural learning, understanding perspectives, and building relationships.

[0:01:30] Voice 2: Toolkits and a lot of homework will be provided.

[0:01:34] Voice 2: Workshops will continue into the fall.

[0:01:36] Voice 2: I plan to finish the program and will be sharing our course materials and learning on social media accounts.

[0:01:44] Voice 2: This summer marks BC's worst forest fire and drought season.

[0:01:50] Voice 2: As trustees, we're provided updates and are invited to attend webinars.

[0:01:54] Voice 2: webinars with the Minister of Emergency Management and Climate Readiness, Bowen Ma, and the Minister

[0:02:02] Voice 2: of Municipal Affairs, Anne Chang. This morning, there are approximately 400 wildfires still

[0:02:11] Voice 2: burning in BC. Over 50 communities are on evacuation alerts or notice. 30,000 households

[0:02:20] Voice 2: they're still under evacuation and as we move into the fall we'll be thankful to see more precipitation

[0:02:27] Voice 2: these wildfires being contained. 350 of those fires were caused by lightning

[0:02:34] Voice 2: and in response to the reoccurring drought situation that we're seeing throughout our

[0:02:42] Voice 2: province premier evie announced yesterday that a task force um was being created um with the focus

[0:02:52] Voice 2: on the magnifications recommendations and reports um it was highlighted by the truth

[0:02:59] Voice 2: that a sense of urgency needed to be put around these documents so we're actually getting it

[0:03:06] Voice 2: it before the fire season, and not during the time of the drought.

[0:03:14] Voice 2: On a positive note, the southern part of DC is seeing some relief as we begin the returns

[0:03:24] Voice 2: of a seasonal freeze, some relief with the drought.

[0:03:27] Voice 2: So, yeah, so

[0:03:33] Voice 2: emergency preparedness is more important now more than ever, and for the

[0:03:37] Voice 2: Galeano community. We shouldn't wait until there's an emergency before we prepare our homes and our

[0:03:44] Voice 2: families. One of the buzz phrases from the meeting this morning is time to double our efforts

[0:03:51] Voice 2: and be ready for the next season. Resources are available online at the CRD website

[0:03:59] Voice 2: and hopefully through the Galeano emergency program. Don't forget to sign up for the CRD

[0:04:07] Voice 2: public alert notification

[0:04:09] Voice 2: system and you can

[0:04:11] Voice 2: receive alerts

[0:04:13] Voice 2: for emergencies on your

[0:04:14] Voice 2: back in

[0:04:18] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: the end of July

[0:04:19] Voice 2: that's really good

[0:04:20] Voice 2: that's me

[0:04:22] Voice 2: in July I had

[0:04:23] Voice 2: my first meeting with the

[0:04:24] Voice 2: Alistair's Conservancy

[0:04:25] Voice 2: at that meeting Chair Adams announced

[0:04:28] Voice 2: her resignation from S-Share

[0:04:30] Voice 2: because her term ends at the end of

[0:04:33] Voice 2: August. Nominations

[0:04:35] Voice 2: were held for new chair

[0:04:37] Voice 2: and board member Lisa Smith was elected and the elections for

[0:04:42] Voice 2: vice chair will happen at another

[0:04:45] Voice 2: meeting. This meeting though the

[0:04:48] Voice 2: ecosystem protection specialist Catherine Martin-Mercal

[0:04:51] Voice 2: reached the board on the status of the work plan and how quick work is going on in terms

[0:04:58] Voice 2: of the regional conservation. We're also updated about works underway about covenants and proper

[0:05:05] Voice 2: management, your IPC care, and we also met with the Alamstrasse Executive Committee.

[0:05:11] Voice 2: And the Alamstrasse is a liaison meeting, it's a yearly meeting where we can get together,

[0:05:18] Voice 2: discuss matters and strengthen relationships.

[0:05:23] Voice 2: Our next meeting is October 4th, and it will be an in-person meeting in Victoria, where

[0:05:29] Voice 2: we'll be discussing direction for staff on the next steps for IPC.

[0:05:33] Voice 2: looking forward to the space case meeting and i'll provide an update in like october

[0:05:38] Voice 2: thank you uh ken yeah this uh member yeah lisa i was just curious on um the uh fire smart program

[0:05:51] Voice 2: was there any going on over here but the fire is marked around the house and properties and stuff

[0:05:57] Voice 2: part for fire starting yeah why

[0:05:59] Voice 2: don't you first see myself about two years ago i had my i had my

[0:06:02] Voice 2: home inspected yeah i just uh heard that some of the gulf island where there's people going

[0:06:10] Voice 2: around giving recommendations on fire smothering properties it's a

[0:06:14] Voice 2: great idea yeah there is an

[0:06:16] Voice 2: effort yeah i know that keith erickson is involved in that project here and then you can simply call

[0:06:22] Voice 2: and he'll come and assess your property it was pretty

[0:06:26] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: great for me i

[0:06:27] Voice 2: was dreaming uh renovation

[0:06:28] Voice 2: the elevation states of my house so it would be easy to implement basically spot the trouble

[0:06:34] Voice 2: trouble areas yeah

[0:06:35] Voice 3: and I'll just add I noticed that the bulletin board downtown today I don't

[0:06:40] Voice 3: know if that's downtown but the the capital regional district has a fire smart uh rebate

[0:06:46] Voice 3: program up to 500 that you can apply for to help get your fire smart smarted and

[0:06:54] Voice 2: I'll pass it over

[0:06:55] Voice 2: to trusty neighborhood thank you hi guys um it's nice to have it's a summer off and learning as i

[0:07:04] Voice 2: get older that my patience for tourists and bikers and things on the road is is limited so um luckily

[0:07:14] Voice 2: i was able to spend a lot of my time on the water um the one thing that we noticed this year that

[0:07:20] Voice 2: hasn't been around for a while is we had a very big run at pink salmon this year and we've had

[0:07:26] Voice 2: a very nice returns of cobalt and springs as well so it was good to be out on the water and see all

[0:07:31] Voice 2: the fish jumping and and uh was lucky enough to to see a few humpback whales and different things so

[0:07:37] Voice 2: it was pretty nice to spend the summer out on the water i attended a southern gulf island forum

[0:07:44] Voice 2: meeting yesterday Tim was there as well and to the two main topics yesterday were housing and

[0:07:51] Voice 2: and protection of our waterways on the housing front both the EAC which is our

[0:07:59] Voice 2: our CRD directors at their previous meeting they had passed a motion and I'll read the

[0:08:06] Voice 2: motion because it's kind of opportune for the housing initiatives is the motion goes

[0:08:13] Voice 2: that occupancy of recreational vehicles without alterations for permanent or long-term use

[0:08:20] Voice 2: will be considered a land use matter and referred to the local land use authority.

[0:08:25] Voice 2: Temporary service connections, steps and decks not requiring a building permit

[0:08:30] Voice 2: and they're not affixed to the recreational vehicle will not be considered permanent alterations.

[0:08:36] Voice 2: So what this does is

[0:08:38] Voice 2: it sort of leads the way for the trustees to come up with what will work for Galliano,

[0:08:47] Voice 2: come up with, I would think, a standing motion or something like that to bring ourselves in line with what the direction of CRD is going.

[0:08:56] Voice 2: I was hoping they would go a little bit further.

[0:08:59] Voice 2: I was hoping they would include modular homes.

[0:09:01] Voice 2: And, you know, there's some discussions going on with some people on the island about CCANs, renovated CCANs, and using that for housing.

[0:09:11] Voice 2: Unfortunately, it wouldn't fall under this.

[0:09:13] Voice 2: But like I said, I'm hoping to work with Lisa and see if we can craft some standing motion or a couple of standing motions that sort of reflect the direction that the CRD is going.

[0:09:27] Voice 2: We also had a commitment from Elizabeth May and Adam Wilson to work with their counterparts to look at the building codes and to figure out how to, first of all, I think the thing was to remove some of the bureaucracy around building and just in general look at other forms of housing as well, alternate housing.

[0:09:50] Voice 2: housing. So I think we're getting to that point where if it's not a reality, it certainly

[0:09:56] Voice 2: will be soon. The second part, oh, there was one other thing on that is Tim brought forward.

[0:10:07] Voice 2: There's been an initiative in Cortez to put a tax on STVRs and to funnel that money into

[0:10:16] Voice 2: into the affordable housing societies to allow them to be more able to run well first to consist

[0:10:24] Voice 2: because they all work on donations and um and so we have a commitment from i believe paul and

[0:10:31] Voice 2: gary holman to crd directors to take a look at that and and figure out how in the gulf islands

[0:10:38] Voice 2: we could we could look at doing that as well and in that way support our our affordable housing

[0:10:44] Voice 2: societies. So that was positive. The second topic was on the production of our waterways.

[0:10:52] Voice 2: There's been a lot of discussion around the freighter anchorages, around private docks,

[0:10:58] Voice 2: around those sort of things. There's a lot of discussion around liveabards. We've had

[0:11:06] Voice 2: proliferation of liveabards in and around the islands and even further,

[0:11:11] Voice 2: as you go further north we're starting to see that you know if people can't find houses on the

[0:11:16] Voice 2: on the beach then they they move on to boats and a lot of challenges around

[0:11:24] Voice 2: when you get a lot of them right so you know i think that was a good discussion

[0:11:33] Voice 2: um you know what sort of opportunity because we had a um a boat sink in montague in the last

[0:11:40] Voice 2: a couple of weeks and there was some you know oil spilled out of that boat and this is what

[0:11:46] Voice 2: happens right. I mean a lot of these boats are not what you would call seaworthy and you know

[0:11:51] Voice 2: if somebody's not there they're probably going down. So that was a really good discussion.

[0:11:58] Voice 2: We've had again commitment from Elizabeth May and Adam Olsen to work with their counterparts

[0:12:04] Voice 2: parts, because there is a move by Transport Canada to allow the Vancouver Port Authority

[0:12:11] Voice 2: to take the jurisdiction of this area, right? And in my mind that would be a huge mistake because

[0:12:18] Voice 2: there's only one thing the Vancouver Port Authority wants with this area and that's to

[0:12:22] Voice 2: more freighters and make money, right? And so we're really hoping in discussions with Adam to

[0:12:29] Voice 2: to see if there's a way to have a First Nations-led

[0:12:33] Voice 2: court authority formed in this area

[0:12:35] Voice 2: between the Wesenic and Ocumenum nations,

[0:12:39] Voice 2: which would give us, I think,

[0:12:41] Voice 2: more of a homegrown alternative.

[0:12:46] Voice 2: So those are big discussions.

[0:12:49] Voice 2: We need to see where Elizabeth and Adam land

[0:12:53] Voice 2: with their counterparts,

[0:12:54] Voice 2: where I think Adam's gonna reach out to all the nations

[0:12:57] Voice 2: to see what their interest is on that so um i'm looking forward to that and looking forward to

[0:13:03] Voice 2: seeing where that leads because that would be that would be a really exciting um development

[0:13:11] Voice 2: uh apart from that good to be back i think and um yeah over here great thank you so we're the

[0:13:20] Voice 2: chair is okay go ahead you know that the anchorages are a really big issue you know for

[0:13:28] Voice 2: you know it's damaging the ecosystem the anchors are dragging around

[0:13:33] Voice 2: and it's all around us and i'm glad you guys are you know opening your eyes to it and we need all

[0:13:42] Voice 2: the help we can get it you know protecting our other road waterways just before i came up here

[0:13:50] Voice 2: and yesterday I've seen an email,

[0:13:52] Voice 2: somebody is working with the Arrowhead Boat Society.

[0:13:57] Voice 2: So we're thinking of hooking up with them

[0:14:00] Voice 2: and trying to get some of the Arrowhead boats

[0:14:02] Voice 2: out of our waters because, you know,

[0:14:06] Voice 2: we've talked about the pollution, oil, the gas,

[0:14:10] Voice 2: whatever else, the copper paints and things like that.

[0:14:14] Voice 2: I'm gonna take care of our ecosystem for sure.

[0:14:18] Voice 2: I'm glad and we are working on teaming up with other entities to try to make a difference

[0:14:27] Voice 2: on the anchorages and the boats that are just, I'm glad there's communication about that.

[0:14:38] Voice 2: I just had to comment on that.

[0:14:40] Voice 2: Thanks, Connor.

[0:14:43] Voice 2: Yeah, and clearly First Nations-led Southern Gulf Islands Port Authority would be far better than the Port of Vancouver being able to reach our tenants further.

[0:14:58] Voice 2: They're already sending plenty of boats this way as it is.

[0:15:02] Voice 2: to be free you know the dogs take away a lot of the uh sequels that go along with the food

[0:15:09] Voice 2: harvesting right now if you put a dog on a clean beach and that you can't harvest 125 meters on

[0:15:17] Voice 2: either side so you know we see that you know it could be open for anybody but it's not there

[0:15:25] Voice 2: it kind of limits in the purchasing for everybody on these areas so you know

[0:15:33] Voice 2: We actually had a couple of people come and talk to us and ask for recommendations on a dog, and they came and picked us up.

[0:15:44] Voice 2: Augie, Sylvester, Elgar, Augie, Sylvester, and myself, and we had to talk at this area.

[0:15:50] Voice 2: You know, we sounded it and all that.

[0:16:10] Voice 2: that. Then they went through the whole licensing process after that.

[0:16:18] Voice 2: Yeah, on that note, the moratorium has been extended for two more years on docks. So there

[0:16:28] Voice 2: there will be no more docks issued out of lands and water in Nanaimo for an extended two years.

[0:16:35] Voice 2: And it's to do with exactly what you're talking about, Ken.

[0:16:38] Voice 2: It's to try and sort of figure out that consultation piece, how we're going to move forward with this.

[0:16:47] Voice 2: And, you know, one of the points in the discussion yesterday around an Indigenous port authority is we would hand that to you.

[0:16:55] Voice 2: And then, like you say, I mean, you guys know where it's best to put these, these

[0:17:00] Voice 2: put them somewhere is then, uh, then the NIMAL does right.

[0:17:05] Voice 2: And, uh, so yeah, just for everybody's aware that more time has been extended

[0:17:12] Voice 2: for an additional three years.

[0:17:14] Voice 2: Yeah.

[0:17:15] Voice 2: And then of course it add that, you know, the, the greater anchor

[0:17:18] Voice 2: is there's, there's the noise

[0:17:20] Voice 3: and air and water pollution.

[0:17:22] Voice 3: And then, of course,

[0:17:23] Voice 2: there's huge problems with the scouring from the anchors as they drag along the bottom, so that's really significant damage.

[0:17:31] Voice 2: Yeah, I think they're out in the toll and the herring population, like the dude-mouth herring on the inside here used to be just a super abundance all the time.

[0:17:41] Voice 2: But it almost seems like when these ships are anchored, their lights are on all the time.

[0:17:47] Voice 2: so that you know the fish are attracted to the light and the seals and sea lions are feeding

[0:17:53] Voice 2: 24-7 these in our right so um i think in the long run it's made a difference in the

[0:18:00] Voice 2: five minutes

[0:18:01] Voice 4: and carrying in the area or at least you're in the same but

[0:18:16] Voice 2: i'll be assigned

[0:18:17] Voice 2: the people that are out there as our members are i just i don't know yeah no thank you appreciate

[0:18:25] Voice 3: that so uh i'll be things from my chair's report i did enjoy uh not traveling for six weeks that

[0:18:34] Voice 3: was wonderful um i mentioned that the trust programs committee met and um uh suggested

[0:18:44] Voice 3: some topics for uh stewardship education speakers series going into next year and identified

[0:18:52] Voice 3: uh fresh water and wildfire wildfire preparedness and and prevention as potential topics and put out

[0:19:02] Voice 3: a sort of a call for topics to the public and if you haven't seen it and you want to link to the

[0:19:10] Voice 3: survey either your trustees or I can help you find that there's soliciting see if it's about

[0:19:15] Voice 3: great ideas that the committee has thought of certainly the issue of liveaboards is something

[0:19:24] Voice 3: I'm quite aware of Salt Spring and Ganges Harbour there is quite a proliferation and there's

[0:19:30] Voice 3: there's uh some local community group over there that's seeking to make some changes and whether

[0:19:38] Voice 3: they're going about that the right way or not is sort of i guess an open question uh there's still

[0:19:43] Voice 3: the problem of where do people go where do people live um but maybe you know maybe it can be done in

[0:19:52] Voice 3: a way that's better

[0:19:54] Voice 2: than sort of a free-for-all free-for-all sort of has a tendency to go down

[0:20:00] Voice 2: is

[0:20:00] Voice 3: the lowest common denominator which is you know from an environmental standpoint not not

[0:20:05] Voice 3: where we want to be going um uh executive committee uh we're gonna meet again tomorrow

[0:20:14] Voice 3: in preparation for the uh trust council meeting on pender in late september um

[0:20:22] Voice 3: preparing to go to the union of bc municipalities next week

[0:20:26] Voice 3: a couple of that we have a minister meeting with uh mr k uh municipal affairs and um uh

[0:20:38] Voice 3: and the stress tradition holds uh hosts uh a breakfast meeting to the opportunity to

[0:20:44] Voice 3: sort of network and discuss with other interested uh government

[0:20:48] Voice 5: parties and

[0:20:50] Voice 2: um i think oh and

[0:20:56] Voice 3: governance committee met again and we'll be bringing some recommendations to trust council

[0:21:01] Voice 3: in september around their proposed next steps for corporate planning we'll be doing a

[0:21:10] Voice 3: visioning session in september it's been identified by the governance committee and the

[0:21:17] Voice 3: financial man financial planning committee uh working subgroup as being an important part of

[0:21:24] Voice 3: of the move towards a long-term corporate planning process

[0:21:29] Voice 3: to integrate strategic planning and financial planning

[0:21:32] Voice 3: in a way that hasn't been done in Islands Trust before.

[0:21:34] Voice 3: So we're

[0:21:35] Voice 2: going

[0:21:36] Voice 3: into a new territory for Islands Trust,

[0:21:40] Voice 3: but fortunately not completely uncharted.

[0:21:42] Voice 3: There's some other good examples we can look at

[0:21:46] Voice 3: for ways that seem to be working for other jurisdictions.

[0:21:49] Voice 3: So I think

[0:21:50] Voice 2: that's a positive step.

[0:21:52] Voice 2: And I'll leave that.

[0:21:55] Voice 2: uh i'll just make let that conclude my chair's report for today um

[0:22:01] Voice 3: moving on i see you don't have

[0:22:04] Voice 3: a direct event with us today so we'll skip his section and that brings us right to town hall

[0:22:11] Voice 3: questions um and just remind everyone that um uh to be brief and concise uh speak to the issues

[0:22:24] Voice 3: hopefully the issues on our our local trust committee agenda um speak to the issues rather

[0:22:30] Voice 3: than personalities uh use respectful language and uh with that i will look for a show of hands

[0:22:37] Voice 3: and see who wants to speak and depending on how many hands go up we may not even

[0:22:43] Voice 2: pull out the

[0:22:44] Voice 2: timer today who'd like to speak today please go ahead well i'm phil kirby uh representing

[0:23:03] Voice 2: We had a basic unanimity approach that it's something that would meet the OCP of the trust was at that time stated that there's some time is needed to discuss and to investigate.

[0:23:24] Voice 2: of our potential donation of land um that was in july it's september my question is

[0:23:34] Voice 2: when would we be able to come for first reading that's that's the question where we were hoping

[0:23:44] Voice 2: actually in september speaking to kim there and she suggests that there's another meeting

[0:23:50] Voice 2: that's part of the treatment trust and luck and in that instance this putting it off uh

[0:23:56] Voice 2: I'm hoping that it's not going to be put off and that's something that has occurred to us before and we'd like to move along.

[0:24:03] Voice 2: If at all possible, we're here to see if we can solve this issue that's been running in our minds for the last 30 years.

[0:24:12] Voice 3: Okay, thank you.

[0:24:13] Voice 3: And my response to that would be that this committee did ask for some legal advice around donation to Penelope.

[0:24:24] Voice 3: And we are allowed to summarize in our own words, which I shall, that the legal framework is that the nation needs to have some kind of an entity that's legally recognized, whether it's a corporation or whatever.

[0:24:54] Voice 3: And I'm unaware of whether the nation has one existing or not.

[0:24:57] Voice 2: Ken?

[0:24:59] Voice 2: To turn a little bit of light on this project, we are forming a land committee slash trust.

[0:25:07] Voice 2: We're in the final stages of selecting the people that are going to represent us.

[0:25:14] Voice 2: So it is recommended to our leadership and our management that we get legal support as well.

[0:25:23] Voice 2: as well. So it's all starting to warm up, and I don't think there's a year.

[0:25:32] Voice 2: And so I'd like this opportunity to let you know that, you know, I said it before, we

[0:25:45] Voice 2: and utilize this island as our own market tracts from the north end to the south end.

[0:25:55] Voice 2: Markings from our elders were really main villages where

[0:26:04] Voice 2: but you know it's known to our people that this was one of our main travel routes.

[0:26:14] Voice 2: some of the trails with crops and things like that so it's pretty well done in one service

[0:26:23] Voice 2: and having said that you know we're excited to get you know a little bit of the land back you

[0:26:38] Voice 2: know it's awesome it's uh i talked to my chief and and she says we're not here to develop we

[0:26:45] Voice 2: just want to have some of this land in our pocket let me know that we're not going to build

[0:26:52] Voice 2: skyscrapers

[0:26:56] Voice 2: we

[0:26:58] Voice 4: really appreciate ever supporting this

[0:27:05] Voice 2: and i know there's probably people that don't support

[0:27:08] Voice 2: it but you know in in our minds and in our hearts it's awesome to have a little bit back

[0:27:15] Voice 2: for our future to say yeah this is our home and utilize it as i stated like um

[0:27:24] Voice 2: I hunted over here for 35, 45, I don't age myself too much, you know, we harvested enough

[0:27:34] Voice 2: deer to, like I say, sometimes we get five or ten deer, but, you know, I'll keep one or two,

[0:27:41] Voice 2: and then the rest go to elders, to single parents, or people that can't get out,

[0:27:46] Voice 2: you know, people that enjoy it, and there's a few of us that do that here, and years ago,

[0:27:53] Voice 2: of my daughter then knows my daughter she was only eight or nine she's 26 now and she harvested her

[0:28:00] Voice 2: first deer out here and she carries that teaching she shares kind of like me shares too much where

[0:28:07] Voice 2: he's like oh i should have got something but anyways a little bit of a story a little bit

[0:28:13] Voice 2: of a history from just from my history and the previous like a lot of the landowners

[0:28:20] Voice 2: moved up or passed away or whatever you know we're really grateful um when they open up their

[0:28:28] Voice 2: their property and say yeah yeah we got too much deer here but now you know like i said

[0:28:35] Voice 2: land transfers and stuff when you see big gates and no trespassing and some of our elders

[0:28:43] Voice 2: harvesting plants it's not fine but uh but together you know a little bit of the back

[0:28:52] Voice 2: is awesome. We appreciate it. And we're here

[0:28:55] Voice 2: to work together. We're here to communicate.

[0:29:01] Voice 2: And I know I've been in the case with a lot of people. They're members of the place, but

[0:29:11] Voice 2: definitely our line of communication is open. I talked to Archie a

[0:29:22] Voice 4: little bit about that,

[0:29:24] Voice 4: and it's awesome. And we really

[0:29:26] Voice 2: appreciate it, that

[0:29:29] Voice 2: opportunity. So having said that,

[0:29:32] Voice 2: we are working on that to maybe be that entity to look after.

[0:29:41] Voice 3: Excellent. Well,

[0:29:41] Voice 3: I'm glad you're here, Ken, because I wasn't going to be able to

[0:29:45] Voice 3: fill in those blanks, and it sounds like that's well on its way, so that's good news.

[0:29:50] Voice 2: I think we're going to

[0:29:51] Voice 2: try to get more of these here, like this, or just have it come to you.

[0:30:01] Voice 4: We're always open to talk to anybody.

[0:30:07] Voice 4: We're here, and we're here to support each other.

[0:30:11] Voice 2: Right, Steve?

[0:30:12] Voice 2: One benefit of having it as a reserved land, too, is that it's not something you're not going to have a million people.

[0:30:19] Voice 2: We have trails on our island. People don't come to it.

[0:30:25] Voice 2: The public doesn't come to our land.

[0:30:27] Voice 2: and you know, no one comes to our island.

[0:30:34] Voice 2: So it's still going to remain private.

[0:30:38] Voice 2: That's one benefit of it.

[0:30:42] Voice 2: We're not like, we don't want to impose on anyone here.

[0:30:47] Voice 2: We know, we understand privacy

[0:30:51] Voice 2: and we don't want people squatting.

[0:30:53] Voice 2: We have our own trespassing

[0:30:55] Voice 2: and vanishing regulations

[0:30:58] Voice 4: on our island.

[0:31:02] Voice 4: everyone knows everybody so that helps

[0:31:08] Voice 2: thank you all

[0:31:11] Voice 3: right before we move on does anyone else

[0:31:14] Voice 3: anything on the agenda here today or if

[0:31:18] Voice 2: we wanted to talk about one of the various

[0:31:19] Voice 2: permits later would you like us to save that for that specific agenda item or would you like us

[0:31:24] Voice 3: uh if you're the applicant sure and if you're not the applicant then now's the time so

[0:31:29] Voice 2: and i will

[0:31:31] Voice 2: hello my name is alison i'm an owner on wise island and i'm here in person in addition to

[0:31:36] Voice 2: the letter we wrote to support the agenda item which is for law before um to make allowances

[0:31:44] Voice 2: for some existing instructions that have been there 24 hours and i did also want to make a

[0:31:49] Voice 2: note from people that also wrote letters but that weren't able to be here today and tuesday

[0:31:54] Voice 2: afternoon in september wasn't able for everybody to hear but that there were quite a few letters

[0:31:59] Voice 2: that came from when there's only you know not even 50 lots a lot of people did take the time and and

[0:32:04] Voice 2: looked at the property and looked at what was going on and really want to try and work with

[0:32:09] Voice 2: what's there and also the neighbors and um so i just wanted to voice my support for the upcoming

[0:32:14] Voice 2: variants coming up okay thank you anyone

[0:32:19] Voice 3: else want to address the local trust committee before i move

[0:32:22] Voice 3: on okay

[0:32:25] Voice 3: i'm not seeing any more hands so we'll move along then uh we have no community information

[0:32:32] Voice 3: meeting or public hearing today so that brings us to section 9.1 the local trust committee

[0:32:40] Voice 3: minutes from july 11th on page three for adoption any changes the minutes yes

[0:32:48] Voice 2: i had uh one thing i'd like to point out or i think it's maybe not captured correctly um

[0:32:55] Voice 2: it's on page five under delegations and it's the bullet point so it's bullet point number three

[0:33:02] Voice 2: it says that reconciliation is essential it needs to be advanced however reconciliation

[0:33:08] Voice 2: applies to provincial and federal jurisdictions and local governments do not have an obligation

[0:33:13] Voice 2: obligation to engage with first nations i don't think the word engage was the one that peter used

[0:33:18] Voice 2: we use the word consultation but we do have our obligation to engage okay i'm very sure

[0:33:28] Voice 2: trying to watch the recording but i think that's the word that he said he said consultant okay and

[0:33:34] Voice 2: there is of course there there are different connotations between engagement and consultation

[0:33:41] Voice 3: certainly under statutes as well so yeah um

[0:33:44] Voice 3: i haven't reviewed the recording but if you have i

[0:33:48] Voice 3: i'm i'm happy to take care of your word of it you

[0:33:51] Voice 2: know i mean you should never change it yeah okay

[0:33:55] Voice 2: okay and

[0:33:57] Voice 3: anything else on the minutes today okay so in that case i'll take it by general consent

[0:34:05] Voice 3: said we can uh approve or adopt the minutes as amended um we have

[0:34:13] Voice 2: no resolutions without

[0:34:15] Voice 2: meeting report for advisory planning second sorry we did receive a letter from the advisor planning

[0:34:22] Voice 2: commission um for yesterday yes i was going to note that as well um do we want to read it or

[0:34:30] Voice 2: or well it's sort of

[0:34:33] Voice 3: an interim update uh did it really get in here in time for this agenda

[0:34:41] Voice 3: i look to staff and yes thank

[0:34:44] Voice 2: you chair so i did i had the opportunity to attend that meeting

[0:34:48] Voice 2: and so there is going to be a second meeting happening so what we could do is include the

[0:34:54] Voice 2: minutes or the comments being received a few days ago on the october agenda in hopes we'll

[0:34:59] Voice 2: we received that second minutes or minutes from the second meeting at that point too yeah so

[0:35:06] Voice 2: they're doing great work but it's in progress right now and it hasn't

[0:35:10] Voice 2: made the final

[0:35:10] Voice 2: recommendations yet

[0:35:12] Voice 3: certainly and it was nice to get that update and i think timely

[0:35:16] Voice 3: for the local trust committee so everyone's content just to go out and do that okay so we

[0:35:23] Voice 3: have uh the follow-up action list on page 10 anything from staff on that yes

[0:35:31] Voice 2: i was actually

[0:35:32] Voice 2: hoping to go through some of the items on this list just to provide an update we haven't met

[0:35:37] Voice 2: since uh july um some of these items are on hold for example the crystal mountain rezoning district

[0:35:47] Voice 2: for 85 and 86 and probably have the meeting of Connecticut First Nations which I'm hoping

[0:35:53] Voice 2: later on we can discuss and hopefully for a date sometime in early October so those are

[0:35:59] Voice 2: currently on hold as well as the groundwater sustainability project I do want to report that

[0:36:06] Voice 2: in October because we've received a bunch of letters not only from Jennifer Markison but I

[0:36:11] Voice 2: leave another community member wanting some further information and i've noted that i was

[0:36:17] Voice 2: hoping to get it on this agenda but unfortunately couldn't so i'll report back in october for that

[0:36:26] Voice 2: just going for it quickly here and i did also want to mention um the apc as i told you they're

[0:36:37] Voice 2: currently putting together their recommendations for wise island we hope to have that in early

[0:36:42] Voice 2: early October and our legal counsel oh the executive committee also approved our legal

[0:36:48] Voice 2: counsel to summarize the legal again regarding that exemption for the groundwater dpa so our

[0:36:55] Voice 2: legal counsel is currently putting that summary together and i hope to have it within a week or

[0:36:59] Voice 2: so and then what we can do is circulate it to the ltc and also post on the website and perhaps send

[0:37:05] Voice 2: it out through our email subscriber list just so everybody has a copy of it and it would be

[0:37:12] Voice 2: included in a minute or in the yes yeah yeah

[0:37:16] Voice 2: great okay and those are the items i'm happy

[0:37:21] Voice 2: to answer any other if there's any questions happy to answer okay

[0:37:25] Voice 3: since we don't have a

[0:37:28] Voice 3: actually let we could put um we could put uh uh consideration of a meeting with an

[0:37:36] Voice 3: allocate under new business then if everyone's okay with that

[0:37:39] Voice 2: let's

[0:37:40] Voice 3: put that at 17.3

[0:37:44] Voice 2: here just to confirm do we have our minute taker available oh good carly's there okay

[0:37:51] Voice 2: for you okay this has been that critical amount we know before we get um get us to get a map

[0:38:07] Voice 2: yeah i don't know whenever what i can do is email you the maps for the resale things that we have

[0:38:14] Voice 2: i'll do that probably this afternoon or tomorrow at the latest and then i'll also when we hopefully

[0:38:20] Voice 2: have that meeting together our ratings are to copy some of the matters as well

[0:38:24] Voice 2: yeah i know like our agenda is smoking so um so we're we got a request to meet with uh

[0:38:35] Voice 2: and i recommend that we send just so you guys know we're sending dates of our future chief of

[0:38:42] Voice 2: council meeting so okay we can start getting the communication going great thank you okay

[0:38:50] Voice 3: um you see it right there in the back just

[0:38:53] Voice 2: not that it's making its way to you i think that

[0:38:57] Voice 2: people it's actually um um okay okay last week so it might even be on the island

[0:39:05] Voice 2: as you see

[0:39:07] Voice 2: okay great so

[0:39:13] Voice 3: any questions from trustees before i move on

[0:39:16] Voice 3: okay we have no delegations today uh we have uh one piece of correspondence

[0:39:24] Voice 3: um

[0:39:25] Voice 2: on page 14 concerning the alien water crisis any

[0:39:31] Voice 2: any action desired there nope so we can just receive that for information um we have a great

[0:39:43] Voice 2: schedule but uh

[0:39:45] Voice 3: we're a little bit ahead of time so I guess these are

[0:39:50] Voice 3: happy let's just keep going

[0:39:51] Voice 3: here we need to break a little later we can listen that one in later uh okay so that brings us to uh

[0:40:00] Voice 3: uh the development variance permit

[0:40:03] Voice 2: uh the staff report on page 16. and over to Kim thank you

[0:40:13] Voice 2: to care so this staff report is to consider a development variance permit for to legalize

[0:40:20] Voice 2: the sighting of existing structures on Wise Island uh this application is a result of a

[0:40:26] Voice 2: bylaw enforcement complaint for those structures within the natural boundary of the sea.

[0:40:32] Voice 2: And as a side note, Wise Island is an off-grid island, boat-only access, so

[0:40:39] Voice 2: solar panels, solar generators are the primary source of water and electricity.

[0:40:47] Voice 2: There are, there was originally four structures, five structures that were included in this

[0:40:55] Voice 2: variance but after going through the application staff noted additional structures on the property

[0:41:05] Voice 2: that the applicant has decided to include in this application to legalize.

[0:41:10] Voice 2: So I'm just going to briefly go over each of these as structures or buildings.

[0:41:14] Voice 2: The first are stairs that are located within the map of the setback to the natural boundary of the

[0:41:20] Voice 2: sea. These stairs access the foreshore and they were constructed by a previous property owner

[0:41:27] Voice 2: about 25 years ago. Through the environmental assessment the applicant provided it was noted

[0:41:34] Voice 2: that a portion of these stairs actually extended beyond the natural boundary of the sea so that

[0:41:39] Voice 2: portion has been removed from the property owner so now the stairs are currently entirely on the

[0:41:45] Voice 2: subject property. A rationale to keep the stairs in place is that they provide access to the

[0:41:54] Voice 2: property specifically during a medical emergency or a fire emergency, so there's a strong rationale

[0:42:00] Voice 2: to keep those in place. There are two solar panels within the setback to the natural boundary of the

[0:42:06] Voice 2: sea. I've identified them as the western solar panel and the eastern solar panel.

[0:42:11] Voice 2: um they are secured by concrete footings and they're obviously located in their inner spot

[0:42:19] Voice 2: to optimize uh suddenly capture for the off-grid home there are two decks located in the setback

[0:42:28] Voice 2: as well that the property owner is pressing variances for those are named the upper deck

[0:42:34] Voice 2: which is attached to the house and then the lower deck with stairs the lower deck is the deck that

[0:42:40] Voice 2: actually is cantilevered over the top of the bank so the previous property owners did construct

[0:42:47] Voice 2: both decks although in 2015 due to a decomposing structural post the lower deck was actually

[0:42:56] Voice 2: removed and rebuilt in a different location as it was actually the original location of the lower

[0:43:03] Voice 2: deck was approximately where that eastern power solar panel is located but now it's located

[0:43:13] Voice 2: more western westerly on the subject the other structures or buildings that are located or that

[0:43:21] Voice 2: are included in this application are a there's a workshop and attached deck those are located in

[0:43:28] Voice 2: the back of the property but it's within the set back to the front yard line front lot line set

[0:43:35] Voice 2: back and also the side lot line set back there's a water tank that is currently being used by the

[0:43:43] Voice 2: property owner to store rainwater there's an outhouse which currently is not being used and

[0:43:49] Voice 2: there's also a power shed and attached deck and this power shed stores the solar battery bank

[0:43:56] Voice 2: can invert it was originally a portion of it was actually located on the property just to the east

[0:44:03] Voice 2: but the property owner has shifted the shed as far west as possible without removing any further

[0:44:09] Voice 2: trees or stops uh the property is also located in the marine and shoreline dpa so a develop

[0:44:18] Voice 2: development permit is required and that will be processed after the variance is completed

[0:44:23] Voice 2: And that will be delegated to staff to approve or not approve.

[0:44:28] Voice 2: Through this process, the applicant has provided an environmental assessment prepared by a biologist.

[0:44:37] Voice 2: So in terms of impacts of these variances of neighboring properties,

[0:44:43] Voice 2: there obviously is a certain type of pattern of development on the western side of Wise Island because it is not Great Island.

[0:44:50] Voice 2: island so there are many properties that have stores down to stairs down to the foreshore

[0:44:56] Voice 2: and also solar uh of course there's a visual impact not only to neighboring properties but

[0:45:03] Voice 2: those viewing it from the ocean but it's hard but we have to consider kind of balancing the visual

[0:45:10] Voice 2: impacts with the or the need of those property owners for those solar panels in terms of impacts

[0:45:17] Voice 2: impacts to the ecosystem. The biologists have provided comments in their environmental assessment

[0:45:23] Voice 2: and I've also summarized those on page 21 of the agenda. So in terms of notices or submissions,

[0:45:34] Voice 2: we received I think approximately 13 submissions and supports and one submission that supports

[0:45:42] Voice 2: some of the variances, but object some others.

[0:45:47] Voice 2: So in terms of recommendations,

[0:45:50] Voice 2: staff want to point out two items,

[0:45:53] Voice 2: and these are included in the staff report.

[0:45:55] Voice 2: So staff are making a recommendation

[0:45:58] Voice 2: not to approve the variance for the outpost.

[0:46:02] Voice 2: It's currently not being used.

[0:46:04] Voice 2: So if the LTC supports that,

[0:46:06] Voice 2: the LTC will want to delete that section

[0:46:09] Voice 2: in the development variance permit.

[0:46:11] Voice 2: And also there should be consideration for that lower deck, the portion that also cantilevers over the edge, because it's not located in the same location as the original deck, there's no legal non-conforming status for that structure.

[0:46:30] Voice 2: Sure. So the LTC may want to consider either removing a portion of the debt or you can make the recommendation to not approve the variances whatsoever.

[0:46:42] Voice 2: And then they'll have to remove that lower portion.

[0:46:46] Voice 2: Although, as the environmental assessment said, it may be more detrimental to actually remove that lower debt than to actually keep it in place.

[0:46:54] Voice 2: So that's something the LTC should consider.

[0:46:57] Voice 2: before if the ltc does decide that no they're not going to approve the variances for the lower deck

[0:47:03] Voice 2: staff will ensure that there is conditions in the development permit for removal of that portion

[0:47:10] Voice 2: so in summary staff have uh provided a recommendation on page 16 of the agenda thank you

[0:47:20] Voice 2: and so the first one is to amend the variance permit that's by deleting that section

[0:47:25] Voice 2: for the outhouse and the second is to approve the development variance permit as amended

[0:47:31] Voice 2: and the applicants are here if the ltc has any questions as well okay trustees questions

[0:47:40] Voice 2: for me it'd be good to hear from the applicants okay yeah if you like to let

[0:47:46] Voice 3: us know anything

[0:47:47] Voice 2: uh when we purchased this property in 2007 uh it had been built in the 90s by the previous owners

[0:47:58] Voice 2: which i believe they submitted a letter going through the chronological timeline of the

[0:48:04] Voice 2: development and all the structures that we were talking about in the experience were done prior

[0:48:10] Voice 2: prior to 2000, with respect to like the power fed and the decks. In 2015, when we were standing

[0:48:20] Voice 2: on the deck, they had a tree that was a corner post on the deck, and they had one post that

[0:48:27] Voice 2: came down, locked into the cliff. And when we were standing on the deck, it was put as

[0:48:34] Voice 2: the lower deck uh sang on that and it shifted and it wasn't safe and we uh the only when we looked

[0:48:42] Voice 2: at it the only way to provide a secure deck there was to shift it about 24 inches to the west and

[0:48:53] Voice 2: and take it away from where that that tree had brought it out and uh we did supply pictures

[0:48:58] Voice 2: it showed the tree that it rotted out and the new deck where it's positioned and to put a vertical

[0:49:05] Voice 2: in there to put the load vertically so it's the most uh stable with the rock face uh it was to

[0:49:14] Voice 2: just do vertical posts going down and that's where we positioned the deck we did not remove any other

[0:49:20] Voice 2: vegetation or trees or anything like that to to bring the deck back into the

[0:49:33] Voice 2: We are only out for a very short period of time.

[0:49:37] Voice 2: This is our second visit here.

[0:49:39] Voice 2: Our first is five days in August and the second has been a week and a half here.

[0:49:44] Voice 2: That's why the outhouse is not used very much because we're just not here.

[0:49:50] Voice 2: So apart from that.

[0:49:54] Voice 4: Questions?

[0:49:58] Voice 4: Uh, let's just

[0:50:00] Voice 2: read the, uh, I did have concerns about the word yet. Uh, key to support is

[0:50:07] Voice 2: robots and the recommendation on page 18 around, um, if those are included in the development

[0:50:15] Voice 2: permit, I feel paving with that for sure. I did. I would also have to go to the second

[0:50:21] Voice 2: does that sit with

[0:50:24] Voice 4: you so

[0:50:26] Voice 2: we could we could move it we're looking at a location where we move it to

[0:50:34] Voice 2: yeah so that i would agree with the purple of this development

[0:50:38] Voice 2: can you get that i would

[0:50:44] Voice 4: have to approve

[0:50:45] Voice 2: it based on those two things

[0:50:47] Voice 2: adding uh recommendations which i think uh planner stockdale said would be included in

[0:50:52] Voice 2: this development permit recommendations around that um around that area

[0:51:02] Voice 2: those are in the development then i think that's so safeguarding satisfies uh but moving

[0:51:09] Voice 2: the outhouse out of the setback let's see that um yeah so i visited the site and um had a good

[0:51:18] Voice 2: look around i will say one thing about wise island is i think by and large the landowners

[0:51:23] Voice 2: and Wise Island have done a really good job of maintaining a forest in the middle of that island

[0:51:30] Voice 2: and have done a really good job of situating their buildings so that

[0:51:35] Voice 2: you know the forest covering that island is fairly intact and so that was good to see.

[0:51:43] Voice 2: I understand like the report saying you know you may cause more damage removing something

[0:51:49] Voice 2: I agree with you, Lisa. I agree on those two points. The outhouse, if you're not using

[0:51:57] Voice 2: it, the reality is BC doesn't actually recognize outhouses. They're not considered a legal

[0:52:04] Voice 2: use anymore, so you may want to think about just removing the outhouse, period. I don't

[0:52:12] Voice 2: and see how we give a variant for something

[0:52:15] Voice 2: that is not legal, right?

[0:52:19] Voice 2: I don't agree with that, personally.

[0:52:21] Voice 2: We live in a rural community

[0:52:24] Voice 2: where outhouses can sometimes come in handy

[0:52:27] Voice 2: because we have long periods of time

[0:52:29] Voice 2: where we don't have power.

[0:52:30] Voice 2: So that would be something for your consideration,

[0:52:33] Voice 2: especially if you're not spending a lot of time

[0:52:36] Voice 2: at the property, right?

[0:52:40] Voice 2: But more from that,

[0:52:43] Voice 2: Yeah, I agree. The stairs have been altered to pull them back.

[0:52:47] Voice 2: And, you know, I would say that we are getting recommendations from the APC on Wise Island and we assume that the setbacks will be altered from what they are now, the recommendations.

[0:53:02] Voice 2: And so any future works on that lower deck may have to conform to new setbacks, right, if there's future work on that lower deck.

[0:53:12] Voice 2: but um but apart from that i'm i'm ready to i agree with lisa i'm ready to move ahead

[0:53:18] Voice 2: okay yeah and yeah um i just wanted to check in uh

[0:53:27] Voice 3: um we are are we do we know what the timeline is going to be like for the recommendations around

[0:53:34] Voice 3: wise island from the abc i

[0:53:37] Voice 2: believe we said

[0:53:38] Voice 3: we're going to get minutes maybe but is there any sort

[0:53:41] Voice 3: sort of guesstimate i'm mostly just curious while we're sort of on i

[0:53:44] Voice 2: believe the next time we're

[0:53:46] Voice 2: meeting is october 4th so it would be difficult actually to get those minutes on for the october

[0:53:56] Voice 2: 10th meeting they could be a late item um it would be a rough though for probably the apc to put

[0:54:03] Voice 2: those together and maybe for the ltc to absorb it so more than likely it'd be november but yeah

[0:54:09] Voice 2: Yeah, that's what we'll close on.

[0:54:11] Voice 4: Okay, yeah.

[0:54:12] Voice 2: Just wanted information there.

[0:54:15] Voice 2: Someone like to make a motion?

[0:54:16] Voice 2: Yeah, go ahead, Lisa.

[0:54:17] Voice 2: Right on.

[0:54:19] Voice 2: All right, I move that the Galliano Underbook and Trust Committee amend GLBBP 2022.4,

[0:54:27] Voice 2: delete in sections 2C, VI.

[0:54:34] Voice 2: Okay, so moved.

[0:54:35] Voice 2: Second.

[0:54:36] Voice 2: Any further discussion?

[0:54:38] Voice 2: All those in favor?

[0:54:40] Voice 2: Motion carries.

[0:54:43] Voice 2: the next one yep uh that the galliano island local trust committee approved issuance of

[0:54:49] Voice 2: development variance permit application gl the dbp dash two zero two two dot four

[0:54:55] Voice 2: carrot as amended moved to second it any further discussion all in favor and welcome carrots okay

[0:55:05] Voice 5: okay thank you

[0:55:13] Voice 4: okay

[0:55:18] Voice 2: so that brings us on to the report second on page 85 we have our active projects report

[0:55:29] Voice 2: uh updated for september anything on that no and future projects on 86 87 anything just on reports

[0:55:42] Voice 2: reports yes and projects um so we've got a few projects going what do we see as a sort of

[0:55:48] Voice 2: timeline on um we've got well the program the main project right now is the groundwater

[0:55:54] Voice 2: sustainability program that's the one project the ltcs that's it yeah I know okay and we're

[0:56:03] Voice 2: just waiting for consultation that's right

[0:56:05] Voice 2: yeah yeah and then after that then we'll hopefully

[0:56:08] Voice 2: be scheduled a public hearing either in november most likely in december the december that's my

[0:56:15] Voice 2: hope so then we can move on with this project in hopes that the lgc can start a new three

[0:56:21] Voice 2: okay

[0:56:24] Voice 4: uh

[0:56:27] Voice 5: i have an applications report of page 88 anything

[0:56:32] Voice 4: there no okay

[0:56:43] Voice 4: Okay,

[0:56:43] Voice 3: we have the trustee's local expense report from July on page 97.

[0:56:50] Voice 3: Any questions around that?

[0:56:54] Voice 3: Adopted policies and standing resolutions 98 to 102.

[0:56:59] Voice 3: Anything there?

[0:56:59] Voice 2: No.

[0:57:00] Voice 3: No?

[0:57:01] Voice 3: No?

[0:57:01] Voice 3: Boy, we're just flying through it today.

[0:57:04] Voice 3: Anything on the local trust committee webpage?

[0:57:08] Voice 3: We have no items.

[0:57:10] Voice 3: Trust Conservancy report as such today.

[0:57:12] Voice 3: so that brings us to new business on page 103 there's the galliano island local trust committee

[0:57:23] Voice 3: bylaw number 289 bylaw enforcement notification amendment consideration

[0:57:29] Voice 2: for adoption and we have

[0:57:31] Voice 2: a staff report page 103 i believe

[0:57:38] Voice 2: uh manager david should be i

[0:57:41] Voice 3: see him on

[0:57:41] Voice 2: the screen yes we

[0:57:43] Voice 2: will be presenting this stuff okay

[0:57:45] Voice 3: go right ahead good

[0:57:49] Voice 4: afternoon chair and trustees oh

[0:57:53] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: my god okay

[0:57:54] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: we're good um this report uh is regarding the uh amendments that have been uh approved and read

[0:58:03] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: three times by the local trust committee uh there are amendments for the violent enforcement uh

[0:58:09] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: a notification by-law, succinctly it's a land use by-law,

[0:58:16] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: changes that have been included in the Ben

[0:58:18] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: and housekeeping amendments.

[0:58:20] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: And specifically there was a amendment

[0:58:22] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: to put in a contravention for people not keeping

[0:58:26] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: their livestock on their own property.

[0:58:31] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: It was read in the June meeting, June 20th,

[0:58:35] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: the LTC did the first three readings and they approved

[0:58:39] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: or uh directed staff to afford it to the executive committee july 12th the exec committee approved

[0:58:46] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: bylaw 289 and so now the bylaw is back in front of the local trust committee uh for final adoption

[0:58:54] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: and you have the recommendation there that the ldc adopts the amendment number one for 2023.

[0:59:01] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: are there any questions questions

[0:59:05] Voice 2: i mean i was pretty clear on this one i think

[0:59:10] Voice 2: it's you know it's time for us to do a review of bylaw enforcement and um so i did not support this

[0:59:16] Voice 2: and i will continue not to support it okay thank you for that and certainly review

[0:59:22] Voice 3: of the bylaw

[0:59:24] Voice 3: of course that's something we could look at as a as a project and we can get some time to read up

[0:59:32] Voice 3: uh

[0:59:32] Voice 2: anything from you nope i'm ready to go ahead all right that uh galliano i wrote the trust

[0:59:39] Voice 2: trust committee bylaw number 289 cited as a galliana local trust community bylaw enforcement

[0:59:45] Voice 2: notification bylaw number 228 2011 amendment number 1 2023 be adopted okay and second that

[0:59:56] Voice 2: any further discussion

[1:00:01] Voice 3: not seeing me i'll call the question all in favor any opposed and would you like your opposition

[1:00:07] Voice 3: noted

[1:00:08] Voice 2: sure okay thank you um okay so that is that and the next item is the census in infographics

[1:00:23] Voice 2: uh briefing on page 125 pretty interesting information yes so i thought we had um

[1:00:32] Voice 2: under new business that's that's the next one next one sorry yeah no

[1:00:37] Voice 3: no problem um so this is uh

[1:00:40] Voice 3: trends around uh population and demographics uh specific to galliano and the galliano trust area

[1:00:50] Voice 3: and uh

[1:00:50] Voice 2: more generally in in the trust area it's here for information there's as most

[1:00:57] Voice 3: Most, if not all of the islands on the coast here,

[1:01:01] Voice 3: all experienced pretty significant population bumps

[1:01:04] Voice 2: through the pandemic.

[1:01:09] Voice 2: And so there's no particular action required.

[1:01:13] Voice 2: Points of information.

[1:01:15] Voice 2: Any comments?

[1:01:17] Voice 2: I mean, the number that we've been given since COVID

[1:01:22] Voice 2: is 34% increase in growth on Galliano.

[1:01:26] Voice 2: I don't, I must be an old timer.

[1:01:30] Voice 2: I harkened back to the old age, you know,

[1:01:33] Voice 2: when it was quieter, but that's probably not the future.

[1:01:37] Voice 2: So yeah, it's, I mean, I guess you're really glad

[1:01:45] Voice 2: that the wind is coming and it's chocolate

[1:01:47] Voice 2: and not a lot you can do about it.

[1:01:50] Voice 2: Yeah.

[1:01:52] Voice 2: Maybe it's a comparison between salt spray.

[1:01:55] Voice 2: I haven't had a chance to kind of look at different islands

[1:01:57] Voice 2: because every biome has their own shape and has broken down the crust area and then broken down

[1:02:02] Voice 2: the fringe weight uh so a lot of information kind of kind of um each other and i found that between

[1:02:13] Voice 2: yeah 1991 and 2021 the gallium population has grown 46.8 percent and

[1:02:20] Voice 2: And same time frame, Salisbury-Gallant grew 50%.

[1:02:27] Voice 2: Pretty good, yeah.

[1:02:29] Voice 2: Out of the 30,510 people that live in the trust area,

[1:02:35] Voice 2: 1.1% is population indigenous or three Indian facts.

[1:02:41] Voice 2: For Galliano, that number specifically is 4%.

[1:02:48] Voice 2: So I'd like to see what that number is against the others.

[1:02:51] Voice 2: but it's very obvious to me that galley i'm not the largest because significantly larger yeah

[1:03:01] Voice 2: yeah i don't know what does that mean though like with all the stats yeah i think

[1:03:06] Voice 2: it would be

[1:03:07] Voice 2: covid that people just kind of put a smart on this last census and i think when we look at

[1:03:12] Voice 2: the next census report in 2026 we'll see where the numbers are a lot of people came to this

[1:03:17] Voice 2: this community during covid and they're here when the census happened so how does that correlate the

[1:03:24] Voice 2: housing how does that inform the different sectors of building and stuff so we're going to use some

[1:03:29] Voice 2: more information processes sure

[1:03:32] Voice 3: and do they have the stuff it takes to be long-term islanders

[1:03:36] Voice 3: stay

[1:03:37] Voice 2: remains to be seen right everyone

[1:03:39] Voice 3: knows it's not easy living on an island

[1:03:41] Voice 3: lots of people

[1:03:43] Voice 2: stop for a cup of coffee yeah when you stick it up yeah

[1:03:48] Voice 2: and it's the second winter that counts more

[1:03:52] Voice 3: than the first winter right

[1:03:54] Voice 3: okay so that brings us to the new item in the new business which is

[1:03:58] Voice 3: 17.3 which is meeting uh meeting

[1:04:03] Voice 2: with canalic and um i don't know you said you had done some

[1:04:10] Voice 3: outreach and ken's here as well and said you're you're going to get some dates to to send yeah

[1:04:17] Voice 2: Yeah, yeah, I talked to our council secretary, and she's going to send out some future chief and council dates to see what happens.

[1:04:27] Voice 2: Okay.

[1:04:28] Voice 2: That's really a good thing.

[1:04:31] Voice 2: Well, I

[1:04:31] Voice 2: think my secretary, Daniel, just carried over, and she's going to find out when that's the most room until we can, if not, we can probably set a special meeting.

[1:04:48] Voice 2: be okay there's a fair bit of the doctor

[1:04:51] Voice 5: yeah

[1:04:53] Voice 2: in a special meeting

[1:04:54] Voice 2: yeah and just

[1:05:00] Voice 3: curiosity since i want to be there and uh got a bit of travel do you have a typical

[1:05:08] Voice 3: day of the week

[1:05:08] Voice 2: that you meet uh it's usually about tuesday i don't know it's

[1:05:14] Voice 5: gonna be tuesday

[1:05:15] Voice 2: We'll start to see what the schedule is like, and like I said, we'll get a quarter on game, and whoever's coming over then.

[1:05:27] Voice 2: Okay, yeah.

[1:05:32] Voice 2: There's also the new committee that you're forming as well, the trust, and whether there'd be opportunities to meet with that group as well.

[1:05:41] Voice 2: Yeah, we're in the middle of finalizing that right now.

[1:05:44] Voice 2: I don't want to finalize it now, but we'll ask that by the committee slash trust committee.

[1:05:54] Voice 2: Yeah, we will do that.

[1:05:56] Voice 4: But maybe we can definitely open up.

[1:05:59] Voice 4: Would

[1:06:03] Voice 2: it be possible as soon as you finalize that to forward the information to Kim and then we can start to look at some of those meetings together?

[1:06:14] Voice 2: Because I know,

[1:06:15] Voice 2: like you say, Trust and Council is super busy and, you know, we start some

[1:06:20] Voice 2: preliminary discussions with the trust.

[1:06:22] Voice 2: Yeah, I'm sure our team will welcome that.

[1:06:30] Voice 5: Okay, great.

[1:06:30] Voice 5: Well, I'm glad you're

[1:06:33] Voice 3: here to give us the update.

[1:06:34] Voice 2: It's much easier than I was kind of wondering.

[1:06:37] Voice 2: Yeah.

[1:06:39] Voice 2: Like I said, we're going to try to make everything in a patient way.

[1:06:49] Voice 4: Yeah, all of us should be here.

[1:06:52] Voice 5: Great.

[1:06:54] Voice 4: That's great.

[1:06:54] Voice 2: And email.

[1:07:00] Voice 2: But I only use that if there's shiny pictures of beer.

[1:07:09] Voice 2: Yeah, so I'm going to hang in the chair.

[1:07:11] Voice 2: Yeah.

[1:07:12] Voice 5: Yeah.

[1:07:13] Voice 4: Yeah.

[1:07:16] Voice 2: Well, communication.

[1:07:23] Voice 2: Well, this might be a record.

[1:07:26] Voice 3: We're very close to the end of this meeting.

[1:07:28] Voice 3: we have our next meeting scheduled for october 10th uh right here um and we have another town

[1:07:37] Voice 3: hall session scheduled for today so i'll just look and see if there's anybody that wants to

[1:07:42] Voice 5: go to the trust committee today that may be a record okay yeah yeah

[1:07:51] Voice 2: well since we have time

[1:07:58] Voice 2: Okay, and

[1:07:59] Voice 3: we have no closed meeting today, and so I'll

[1:08:04] Voice 2: call for adjournment.

[1:08:08] Voice 2: Thank you, everybody, for coming,

[1:08:11] Voice 3: and thank you, staff online. Appreciate your work there.

[1:08:17] Voice 2: Thanks. I'll stop the recording.

[1:08:23] Voice 2: Yes

Galiano Island Local Trust Committee 
Regular Business Meeting 
September 12, 2023 ADOPTED Page 1 of 5 pages 
 
Galiano Island Local Trust Committee 
Minutes of Regular Meeting 
 
Date:  
Location:  
September 12, 2023 
Galiano South Community Hall 
141 Sturdies Bay Road, Galiano Island, BC 
 
   
Members Present: Timothy Peterson, Chair 
 Ben Mabberley, Local Trustee 
 Lisa Gauvreau, Local Trustee 
  
Staff Present: Kim Stockdill, Island Planner 
 Warren Dingman, Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement Manager, by Zoom 
 Carly Bilney, Recorder 
  
Others Present: Ken Thomas, Penelakut Tribe Council Member 
  
 Approximately fifteen (15) members of the public were present. 
 
1. CALL TO ORDER 
Chair Peterson called the meeting to order at 1:00 p.m. He acknowledged that the meeting was 
held on the territory of the Coast Salish First Nations. 
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 
By general consent, the agenda was approved as presented. 
 
3. TRUSTEE REPORT 
Trustee Gauvreau made the following comments in her report: 
 Recent workshops led by the Indigenous Perspectives Society focused on building 
relationships and what was learned will be shared on social media 
 Emergency preparedness is now more important than ever as British Columbia 
experiences its worst forest fire season 
 It is time to double efforts to prepare for the next fire season 
 Trustee Gauvreau attended her first meeting with the Islands Trust Conservancy in July 
and Risa Smith was elected Chair 
 
Trustee Mabberley made the following comments in his report: 
 Trustee Mabberley spent the summer on the water and saw a good return of salmon 
this year 
 

 
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September 12, 2023 ADOPTED Page 2 of 5 pages 
 A recent meeting of the Southern Gulf Islands Forum included discussion on removing 
bureaucracy related to building codes, considering alternate forms of housing, and 
topics related to the protection of waterways such as forming a First Nations-led Gulf 
Islands Port Authority 
 
4. CHAIR'S REPORT 
Chair Peterson made the following comments in his report:  
 At a recent meeting of the Trust Programs Committee, discussion included fresh water 
and wildfire preparedness and prevention as potential topics for the next Speakers 
Series; a call for potential topics has been put out to the public 
 Liveaboards have proliferated in Ganges where a local community group is seeking to 
make changes 
 The Executive Committee will soon meet to prepare for the Trust Council meeting 
scheduled for late September 
 The Governance Committee recently met and will bring recommendations to Trust 
Council regarding next steps in long-term strategic and financial corporate planning 
 
5. ELECTORAL AREA DIRECTOR'S REPORT – none 
6. TOWN HALL AND QUESTIONS 
Town hall was held and the following comments were made: 
 
 The Local Trust Committee (LTC) sought legal advice regarding a land donation to 
Penelakut Tribe that says the First Nation needs a legally recognized entity in order to 
receive the land 
 Penelakut Councillor Ken Thomas commented on the formation of a Land Committee 
that Penelakut Tribe is in the final stages of completing 
 Support was expressed for GL-DVP-2022.4 (Carrick) on Wise Island 
 
7. COMMUNITY INFORMATION MEETING – None 
8. PUBLIC HEARING – None 
9. MINUTES 
9.1 Galiano Island Local Trust Committee Minutes Dated July 11, 2023 
The following amendments to the minutes were presented for consideration: 
On page 5 of the agenda package, (page 3 of the July 11, 2023 minutes), the third bullet 
point under Item 11 – Delegations says: “Reconciliation is essential and needs to be 
advanced however reconciliation applies to provincial and federal jurisdiction and local 
governments do not have an obligation to engage with First Nations” - The word 
“engage” should be changed to “consult.” 
By general consent the Galiano Island Local Trust Committee meeting minutes of July 
11, 2023 were adopted as amended. 

 
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September 12, 2023 ADOPTED Page 3 of 5 pages 
 
9.2 Section 26 Resolutions Without Meeting Report – None 
9.3 Advisory Planning Commission Minutes   
Island Planner Stockdill noted that the minutes of the latest Advisory Planning 
Commission (APC) meeting would be included in the October LTC meeting package and 
a second APC meeting will be taking place soon. 
10. BUSINESS ARISING FROM MINUTES 
10.1 Follow-up Action List Dated Sept 2023 
Island Planner Stockdill provided updates on the Follow-up Action List. She noted the 
Executive Committee has approved legal counsel regarding an exemption for 
groundwater Development Permit Areas, and a summary will be disseminated via the 
Islands Trust subscriber list.  
 
New Business Item 17.3 – Meeting with Penelakut was added to the agenda.  
 
By general consent, the agenda was approved as amended. 
 
11. DELEGATIONS – none 
12. CORRESPONDENCE 
Correspondence received concerning current applications or projects is posted to the LTC 
webpage 
12.1 Jennifer Margison re Galiano and Tofino's Water Crisis 
Received for information. 
13. MEETING BREAK – COMMUNITY UPDATE 
14. APPLICATIONS AND REFERRALS 
14.1 GL-DVP-2022.4 (Carrick) - Staff Report 
Island Planner Stockdill reviewed the Staff Report regarding GL-DVP-2022.4. Discussion 
followed and the following comments were made: 
 The Environmental Assessment Report is robust and thorough 
 Property owners should consider removing the outhouse 
 Wise Island residents have done a good job maintaining an intact forest in the 
middle of the island 
 Recommendations related to Wise Island from the APC will likely be received at 
the November LTC meeting 
 
  

 
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GL-2023-52 
It was Moved and Seconded, 
1. that Galiano Island Local Trust Committee amend GL-DVP-2022.4 by: 
a. Deleting Section 2(c)vi. 2. that Galiano Island Local Trust Committee 
approve issuance of Development Variance Permit application GL-DVP-
2022.4 (Carrick) as amended. 
CARRIED 
 
15. LOCAL TRUST COMMITTEE PROJECTS 
16. REPORTS 
16.1 Work Program Reports 
16.1.1 Active Projects Report Dated Sept 2023 
Received for information. 
16.1.2 Future Projects Report Dated Sept 2023 
Received for information. 
16.2 Applications Report Dated Sept 2023 
Received for information. 
16.3 Trustee and Local Expense Report Dated July 2023 
Received for information. 
16.4 Adopted Policies and Standing Resolutions 
16.5 Local Trust Committee Webpage 
16.6 Islands Trust Conservancy Report – None 
17. NEW BUSINESS 
17.1 Galiano Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 289 - Bylaw Enforcement Notification 
Amendment – Consideration for Adoption – Staff Report 
Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement Manager Dingman reviewed the Staff Report 
regarding Bylaw No. 289. Trustee Mabberley commented on his opposition to the 
proposed bylaw and his support for a review of bylaw enforcement.  
GL-2023-53 
It was Moved and Seconded, 
that Galiano Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 289, cited as “Galiano 
Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw Enforcement Notification Bylaw No. 228, 
2011, Amendment No. 1, 2023” be adopted.  
CARRIED 
Trustee Mabberley Opposed 
 

 
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17.2 Census Infographics – Briefing 
Discussion was held on the information contained within the Census briefing. 
 
17.3 Meeting with the Penelakut 
Discussion was held and the following comments were made: 
 Island Planner Stockdill and Councillor Thomas would determine suitable dates 
to schedule a meeting 
 Penelakut Tribe is in the midst of finalizing a new committee and related 
information can be sent to Island Planner Stockdill so the LTC and the new 
Penelakut committee can meet 
 
18. UPCOMING MEETINGS 
18.1 Next Regular Meeting Scheduled for October 10, 2023 at the Galiano South 
Community Hall, Galiano Island 
19. TOWN HALL  
Town hall was held and no comments were made. 
20. CLOSED MEETING – None 
21. ADJOURNMENT 
By general consent the meeting was adjourned at 2:08 p.m. 
 
 
_________________________ 
Tim Peterson, Chair 
 
Certified Correct: 
 
_________________________ 
Carly Bilney, Recorder