Islands Trust Council regular meeting, July 11, 2023

[0:00:14] Voice 8: okay it looks like the live stream is up as well

[0:00:17] Voice 6: so i'm going to go ahead and call this

[0:00:21] Voice 6: meeting the galliano local trust committee to order for july 11 2023 uh once we acknowledge

[0:00:31] Voice 6: that we are on territory of salish peoples and the penelope in particular um and uh welcome

[0:00:41] Voice 7: Mayor Mrakas, And we do have an agenda for us any additions is the drastic reports get right to the one system, we want to get motion to

[0:01:00] Voice 6: prove the gender and so well, if you take i'm sorry you're right, we can take it by a general set that the agenda is approved as presented

[0:01:08] Voice 7: for.

[0:01:10] Voice 7: Mayor Mrakas, Very well, this past month, just counsel was held on the agenda for the agenda for the agenda for the agenda for the agenda.

[0:01:17] Voice 7: I'm Gabrielle Island, located in the Seminole Territory.

[0:01:23] Voice 7: Our meeting was jam-packed with a

[0:01:25] Voice 4: strategic planning session,

[0:01:27] Voice 4: which is very useful to me,

[0:01:29] Voice 4: looking at concepts around organizational functions,

[0:01:33] Voice 3: identifying how strength and how weaknesses and threats can be mitigated,

[0:01:37] Voice 3: and sometimes your opportunity.

[0:01:41] Voice 3: It was a great session, and I look forward to using this planning tool.

[0:01:44] Voice 3: We

[0:01:45] Voice 7: received a

[0:01:46] Voice 3: brief, a briefing on our agenda from Director Clare Frater, the newest of

[0:01:51] Voice 3: the

[0:01:52] Voice 7: new census profile and infographics, it's a treasure trove of data and

[0:02:12] Voice 8: nominations for look forward to that board position and where

[0:02:31] Voice 7: that learning will bring

[0:02:31] Voice 7: you.

[0:02:32] Voice 7: my last bit about the trust council is i submitted a request for decision

[0:02:37] Voice 7: and i'm happy to have had to support the trust council um my proposal my proposed rfd was to

[0:02:45] Voice 7: prioritize a review of audience trust first nations bylaw referral process to highlight

[0:02:51] Voice 7: meaningful consultation and ensure indigenous communities in their trust areas the perspectives

[0:02:55] Voice 7: and the knowledge are integrated into decision decision making process related to land use and

[0:03:01] Voice 7: development. From the conversations that I had with fellow trustees and staff, the RFP was well

[0:03:09] Voice 7: supported by all. It was hard to see such support around them. I believe my RFP was seconded by Tim

[0:03:17] Voice 7: here. And there are many hands raised for that. Since the

[0:03:25] Voice 5: last meeting a few weeks ago, other than

[0:03:27] Voice 5: trust council i've been attending to my trustee hours which are monday from 9 to 11 and there's

[0:03:33] Voice 5: no meeting next month but i do plan to keep my schedule through the summer as always please

[0:03:39] Voice 5: feel free to reach out to me for a chat thank you okay thanks

[0:03:42] Voice 7: lisa um yeah so i was unable to

[0:03:46] Voice 7: the last trust council meeting so nothing report from that but um looking forward to uh to today

[0:03:56] Voice 7: especially. I know there's some business here that we're going to be working together with

[0:04:02] Voice 7: Connecticut Nation on and on that note I just wanted to give Ken an opportunity to introduce

[0:04:09] Voice 7: to introduce his staff or his people here.

[0:04:13] Voice 7: Good afternoon, I'm Ken Thomas,

[0:04:15] Voice 7: I'm from Connecticut,

[0:04:17] Voice 7: Councilman as well,

[0:04:18] Voice 7: and President of the Justice League.

[0:04:21] Voice 7: Thank you.

[0:04:22] Voice 7: I just want to thank everyone for coming out

[0:04:26] Voice 7: and, you know, work together on some issues

[0:04:29] Voice 7: and keep a positive, positive roll going here.

[0:04:34] Voice 7: You know, this is in our home

[0:04:39] Voice 7: I mean, it's always good to be involved and seeing everybody I've seen, see some people

[0:04:45] Voice 7: getting that before.

[0:04:48] Voice 7: You know, I'll introduce our teamers now.

[0:04:52] Voice 7: We have Dr. Connery and Ray and Charlie.

[0:04:56] Voice 7: They're part of our C-O-C initiative program.

[0:04:59] Voice 7: They keep an eye on cleaning all kinds of things.

[0:05:03] Voice 7: The kids sit here for two days and talk about what they do.

[0:05:07] Voice 7: And we've got a couple of other people.

[0:05:08] Voice 7: over here she's part of our lands she's our lands officer so we just just want to say thank you for

[0:05:16] Voice 7: your time and thanks for that thank

[0:05:19] Voice 9: you and

[0:05:23] Voice 7: so that's everything for you um for charity work i

[0:05:29] Voice 7: don't have a lot uh anything really new to add uh was

[0:05:35] Voice 6: that trust council i was happy to see uh

[0:05:38] Voice 6: christy gabriel's uh requests for decision uh so well supported by trust council because i

[0:05:45] Voice 6: think anyone that has paid any attention is aware that the present uh default referral process is

[0:05:54] Voice 6: hopefully inadequate and absolutely needs um some serious input to what changes that can be made

[0:06:04] Voice 6: to make it better um the provincial default is clearly inadequate so i'm happy to see that that's

[0:06:12] Voice 6: endorsed by trust council

[0:06:14] Voice 7: and that they'll be the idea is to reach out to first patients and

[0:06:18] Voice 7: get some feedback i

[0:06:21] Voice 6: know we're all clear that we can do it better but we'd like to just really

[0:06:24] Voice 6: actually have that dialogue i think and try to work collaboratively on an improved process so

[0:06:32] Voice 7: I think that's a really positive step.

[0:06:34] Voice 7: We appreciate Trustee Gabbard and Matt to the Trust Council.

[0:06:40] Voice 7: So moving on, I don't think we're going to see our electoral area director reporting today.

[0:06:48] Voice 7: And so that brings us to the first panel call question.

[0:06:52] Voice 7: Second, I'll just remind everyone to

[0:06:57] Voice 6: be brief.

[0:06:58] Voice 6: I will use a timer and to speak to issues on the agenda,

[0:07:05] Voice 7: to speak to the issues and not personal individuals and our staff and to be respectful of that.

[0:07:22] Voice 7: So with that, I'll open it to our hands and see who would like to address the

[0:07:26] Voice 8: local trust committee.

[0:07:31] Voice 8: okay let's see

[0:07:31] Voice 7: if you i'm going to start

[0:07:32] Voice 8: right

[0:07:33] Voice 7: in the back there all right uh my name is john

[0:07:37] Voice 7: wilson a full-time resident on wise island um we eight months ago requested uh some bylaw

[0:07:44] Voice 7: new bylaws for wise i don't know if you take any consideration of boat access from the properties

[0:07:50] Voice 7: uh we still do not seem to have gotten anywhere and i was just wondering the previous chair

[0:07:56] Voice 7: if mr dan rogers mentioned that we could realize the regional planning departments um as well

[0:08:04] Voice 7: this is not just the local planning so i'm just wondering if we could look into that

[0:08:08] Voice 7: the regional planning and possibly the strategic director on salt spring uh to look into some new

[0:08:15] Voice 7: bylaws for the wide zone it's a different option thank you okay

[0:08:20] Voice 6: thank you i'll just respond um

[0:08:22] Voice 6: to my understanding the regional planning team um the way that we can access it is for

[0:08:31] Voice 6: what's known as major projects and the new sort of planning regime is projects uh projected to

[0:08:37] Voice 6: be over five thousand dollars and um and that each local trust committee can have one major

[0:08:45] Voice 6: and one minor project minor project being under 5 000 and being undertaken by the

[0:08:52] Voice 6: local trust committee staff so i'm not sure that mr rogers is giving you information that's exactly

[0:09:02] Voice 7: accurate in this situation

[0:09:07] Voice 7: sorry i think we approved the minor project already that was going to be under

[0:09:12] Voice 7: 5 000.

[0:09:18] Voice 6: so

[0:09:19] Voice 7: um yeah

[0:09:20] Voice 6: we're stopping the reality is that we have uh business before us and actually hopefully

[0:09:27] Voice 6: we'll get a chance to dedicate some time to really thinking on what we want to try and accomplish

[0:09:32] Voice 6: this term in terms of ocp reviewer we have a number of items that we haven't haven't really

[0:09:39] Voice 6: sat down and done that real priority uh conversation yeah

[0:09:43] Voice 7: okay so i'm going to move this

[0:09:45] Voice 7: way sorry i think i saw one in the back here yes um i i was pleased to be a focus uh in uh the

[0:09:57] Voice 7: trustee report in the antistage um driven by a list of gabriel on water sustainability on galliano

[0:10:05] Voice 7: And many of us are watching with increased alarm issues that water scarcity in many parts of the world is actually close to home.

[0:10:20] Voice 7: And we're all aware of the vulnerability of our water resources on Galliano Island, the added complication of saltwater intrusions.

[0:10:31] Voice 7: So, I just have a, I guess, a request and a question, and my request would be that I'm wondering if the trustees could consider looking into some signage on the island, similar to that which exists on the main island, where water conservation and quite large signs

[0:10:54] Voice 7: um shot there and cautioning visitors and friends about the importance of water conservation

[0:11:01] Voice 7: and we don't seem to have anything similar to that

[0:11:08] Voice 7: and um my what specific actions and if i can put this to you

[0:11:17] Voice 7: it's not an appropriate place to discuss it but what specific actions um as our elected trustees

[0:11:25] Voice 7: are planning to do this is on galley and both for residents and for the national okay

[0:11:29] Voice 6: you

[0:11:30] Voice 7: want to make a response at this time or yeah sure um so right at the moment we're working through

[0:11:37] Voice 7: the groundwater sustainability um bylaws and um i think they go a long way to addressing

[0:11:44] Voice 7: addressing the concerns, the need for water storage.

[0:11:49] Voice 7: I think, you know, by and large, in most places,

[0:11:59] Voice 7: and yeah, I think the groundwater sustainability project

[0:12:03] Voice 7: addresses a lot of those concerns.

[0:12:05] Voice 7: I will recognize, I mean, I think we're probably going

[0:12:08] Voice 7: to be going through one of the driest summers

[0:12:11] Voice 7: we've had in a long time.

[0:12:14] Voice 7: and uh so i take note on your point for having some signage um maybe having a sign made up for the

[0:12:20] Voice 7: uh you know by the ferry dock there so when people come on the island

[0:12:24] Voice 7: it's something that's in their minds um i'm not sure people from counter come here to visit

[0:12:35] Voice 7: worry too much whether we run out of water or water right so um yeah i think you know

[0:12:42] Voice 7: like that is really consider making sure they have adequate storage, which can be built up through the winter months.

[0:12:49] Voice 7: And yeah.

[0:12:53] Voice 7: Yeah, something like that. I remember a few years ago seeing the Chamber put out an infographic with that information on it.

[0:13:01] Voice 7: And I didn't talk with Com in Jordan about a month ago about it. I'll follow up.

[0:13:05] Voice 7: Okay, thank you.

[0:13:08] Voice 7: I think we saw some hands up here right in the back.

[0:13:19] Voice 7: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Two issues.

[0:13:23] Voice 7: First one is with the regular clarity in the minutes that occasionally the minutes note that a trustee comments.

[0:13:36] Voice 7: could you please identify which trustee that was for people who either don't watch it online

[0:13:43] Voice 7: or wouldn't go to town sometimes it's difficult to try to figure out who was who actually said it

[0:13:50] Voice 7: uh or made that comment and secondly wise island um in eight months i don't live on wise island

[0:14:00] Voice 7: but I certainly empathize with their being put into one of the seven circles of hell.

[0:14:08] Voice 7: Well, stop dithering.

[0:14:11] Voice 7: You've been offered a short-term potential solution.

[0:14:19] Voice 7: Take the passage of island by-lines.

[0:14:22] Voice 7: Give them to the APC.

[0:14:24] Voice 7: let the apc determine whether or not they are relevant to uh why is that and then you've got

[0:14:34] Voice 7: a proposal that comes before the ltc for discussion if there are differences of opinion then discuss

[0:14:42] Voice 7: them at that time when you have got a proposal in front of you stop running from discussing thank

[0:14:50] Voice 7: hey

[0:14:52] Voice 8: thank you um and

[0:14:57] Voice 7: i just want to check in with the plan here

[0:15:01] Voice 7: maybe you know i do recall during in terms of minutes um i think there's a policy around

[0:15:12] Voice 7: there isn't there isn't a policy i don't have it memorized unfortunately but really the uh

[0:15:18] Voice 7: The purpose of the minutes is really to record the actions

[0:15:21] Voice 5: made by the LTC, although I know we've been having issues with the lack of connection here and our minute taker not being able to hear.

[0:15:33] Voice 5: So we'll do our best to request the minute taker to make notes of which trustee spoke, but we do have a policy that our minute taker is doing by and by.

[0:15:43] Voice 5: and i also encourage those who are speaking to also announce their name as well

[0:15:48] Voice 7: so the minute taker can take those down

[0:15:57] Voice 7: hi um i would just like to agree with the previous speaker regarding wise island and i think that

[0:16:05] Voice 7: you know a fairly easy step would be for the ltc to forward a referral to the apc to look at

[0:16:13] Voice 7: possible bylaws to wise island just to move things along and try to get some eyes looking on

[0:16:20] Voice 7: problems that second back here just talk about this from wise island and just

[0:16:29] Voice 7: carry on i appreciate your support like all the mechanisms like other folks too but just

[0:16:35] Voice 7: along that same path of moving this forward two things was in the interim if there's any

[0:16:40] Voice 7: Any feedback we could get from your group as to how can we help it?

[0:16:45] Voice 7: What can we do on our behalf?

[0:16:46] Voice 7: We have our Wise Island Annual General Meeting comes up August 6th.

[0:16:52] Voice 7: It's coming up very soon, where we'll discuss in our own forum what our image is in the first place.

[0:17:09] Voice 7: and then if there is still being brought up before as a a halt on the enforcement

[0:17:16] Voice 7: of the of the individual um bylaw enforcement until we can get it moved forward to something

[0:17:24] Voice 7: that we can agree to or or not thank you for that and thank you thank you mr chair

[0:17:37] Voice 7: I'm happy that your

[0:17:39] Voice 7: trustee said you're meeting

[0:17:41] Voice 7: at the front of them.

[0:17:42] Voice 7: It's a great gesture

[0:17:44] Voice 7: to show the importance

[0:17:47] Voice 7: of NARFAN to the

[0:17:48] Voice 7: community.

[0:17:51] Voice 7: The point about

[0:17:53] Voice 7: saying one's name

[0:17:54] Voice 7: if you get out and speak, for the

[0:17:57] Voice 7: minute taker to know who you're speaking to,

[0:17:58] Voice 7: it's pointless because there's a policy

[0:18:01] Voice 7: that people's

[0:18:03] Voice 7: names, when you're rising down the hall,

[0:18:05] Voice 7: will not be recorded in the minutes so that's the point but anyway my name is

[0:18:09] Voice 7: and i just i have a concern about the item a couple of the items on number 14 on the agenda

[0:18:25] Voice 7: and the rezonings, the proposed rezonings

[0:18:28] Voice 7: of District Laws 86 and 85.

[0:18:34] Voice 7: I thought that it was a mistake for the previous LTC

[0:18:37] Voice 7: to not proceed with those proposed bylaws

[0:18:42] Voice 7: and put 86 in advance and put 85 on the shelf

[0:18:45] Voice 7: instead of engaging with the applicants

[0:18:49] Voice 7: and trying to bring up also that we meet

[0:18:53] Voice 7: uh the needs of the community and uh the uh the president set in previous reunions that was a

[0:19:02] Voice 7: mistake but i'm also concerned that the staff report that's come forward on district laws

[0:19:06] Voice 7: 86 and 85 really doesn't reflect what the uh the

[0:19:13] Voice 7: The precedents have

[0:19:18] Voice 6: been

[0:19:24] Voice 7: followed by the LDC in rezoning from F1 to rural and arid forests.

[0:19:42] Voice 7: And referring specifically to the lack of any of the recommendations that waterfronts be provided in the, that waterfront be preserved out of the development zone for conservation, for public access, and for the value of the waterfront as part of the preserved area that's exchanged for higher density.

[0:20:15] Voice 7: I think it was this LPC made a motion asking that the staff read forward the old by-law

[0:20:22] Voice 7: so that you can see what was the precedent, what was told, you'd ask for a public block

[0:20:30] Voice 7: to report the front in exchange for the higher densities.

[0:20:33] Voice 7: And the model for this would be District Law 79, which to exchange a significant amount of waterfront.

[0:20:50] Voice 7: Basically, they're put both on the precedent set by District Law 79, but they're not really following it.

[0:21:00] Voice 7: And I'm concerned that the staff report makes no reference to that.

[0:21:03] Voice 7: And, yeah, I don't understand why.

[0:21:08] Voice 7: I'm hoping the trustees will address that and, you know, talk to the applicants because

[0:21:15] Voice 7: there's other ways of concluding that development.

[0:21:17] Voice 7: So the waterfront is preserved and dedicated to the public body at the same time that they

[0:21:30] Voice 7: have their waterfronts.

[0:21:34] Voice 7: Thank you.

[0:21:36] Voice 7: I'm going to go over here.

[0:21:39] Voice 3: just real quick i can't find the page but it is in the um ocp official community plan or in the

[0:21:44] Voice 3: violence i can't remember where but the paperwork is there that um it says no water is required

[0:21:51] Voice 3: to be given and i'll dig it up for you but there is no um in the biological states that no water

[0:21:58] Voice 3: front is required for the application that we're doing so i'll

[0:22:01] Voice 3: find you the paperwork it's in here

[0:22:02] Voice 3: Okay,

[0:22:03] Voice 7: just one last question. The difference between 79 and 85 and 86, as I know it, is that 79 had no intention of keeping their rocks.

[0:22:17] Voice 7: They were selling them all, and they did. We have been here for 32 years. We have no intention of going anywhere.

[0:22:23] Voice 7: We love the island, and we love the waterfront, and we would like some of the waterfront.

[0:22:28] Voice 7: we are not selling you know so there's a difference between these two okay and so i'm gonna go back

[0:22:39] Voice 7: something more that you said about that with the logars over there i've been privileged to be able

[0:22:46] Voice 7: to use that property as a friend and the amount of garbage and waste that has been sold off the

[0:22:54] Voice 7: beaches by the people in those years is absolutely

[0:23:02] Voice 7: doomed and

[0:23:07] Voice 8: keep it protected

[0:23:25] Voice 7: it

[0:23:26] Voice 7: also the rezoning of district blocks 30 31 and 32 that resulted in the community forest

[0:23:35] Voice 7: us also didn't include watershed you know and some of them have um

[0:23:40] Voice 7: are there any other hands anybody okay i'm not seeing any more hands um so we'll move along then

[0:24:00] Voice 7: section we have no community information or public hearing today

[0:24:21] Voice 8: Lisa,

[0:26:02] Voice 4: I've just stopped the recording because we've lost the Galliano venue.

[0:26:06] Voice 4: I'm going to see if we can get it back.

[0:26:11] Voice 5: Will, did somebody confirm their recording with their phone on site?

[0:26:17] Voice 5: I

[0:26:18] Voice 4: I hope so at the very least they're going to record resolutions they're going to write down

[0:26:23] Voice 4: the resolutions okay um but I hope so because this is pretty bad oh here comes Galliano again

[0:26:42] Voice 7: I would propose that that we take that on as an LTC I think it's a good time to start

[0:26:51] Voice 7: are now building relationships with the other nations around this application and other

[0:26:56] Voice 7: applications um instead of staff having to make that phone call we make

[0:27:03] Voice 8: that phone call

[0:27:05] Voice 7: um

[0:27:13] Voice 8: so the the minister of the june

[0:27:17] Voice 7: 20th meeting um

[0:27:18] Voice 7: and say that staff will report back with further information

[0:27:22] Voice 7: and prepare a draft by-law.

[0:27:24] Voice 7: So staff can continue to do

[0:27:25] Voice 5: that and to get ready

[0:27:29] Voice 5: or to bring that forward for the September meeting.

[0:27:31] Voice 5: And it sounds like that you're encouraging each trustee

[0:27:34] Voice 5: to also reach out to your contact with different First Nations,

[0:27:38] Voice 5: just letting those nations know that this rezoning is starting

[0:27:42] Voice 5: and to give them information

[0:27:44] Voice 7: on what's being proposed.

[0:27:46] Voice 7: Yeah, I also think that we should do it together.

[0:27:48] Voice 7: a trust committee perhaps i dropped the letter i mean if we were to attend a meeting as an observer

[0:27:58] Voice 7: even and to sit with the board meetings to make the effort to travel to another place

[0:28:02] Voice 7: to sit in these meetings and just even just that we're there we're listening i think it's

[0:28:08] Voice 7: a good start for building relationships my turn i

[0:28:13] Voice 8: don't know what do you think

[0:28:18] Voice 7: absolutely let's let's do that yeah i mean i'm not sure at the end of the day um how staff would

[0:28:26] Voice 7: feel about that you know going through the process because normally all consultation is done you know

[0:28:32] Voice 7: in the previous times um staffs are the nations right and and then back to the lgc i would

[0:28:42] Voice 7: personally and have done on other applications the ones we're going to talk about they met with

[0:28:49] Voice 7: the first nations to make sure that they were aware of the applications so i'm not opposed to

[0:28:54] Voice 7: that right um the two other items um and we'll be fine um you know i've been living here a long time

[0:29:04] Voice 7: um every piece of property is unique in the sense that the properties bordering it

[0:29:13] Voice 7: may have things that only that property can provide and in this case this property

[0:29:21] Voice 7: could grant access to landlocked property of four adjacent lots it is the only time

[0:29:29] Voice 7: that this can be done if this application proceeds without that or without at least getting staff to

[0:29:37] Voice 7: inquire about that that's lost forever we don't get that back we never get another opportunity

[0:29:42] Voice 7: to do this. So my request was just to get staff to look at that and see if that was

[0:29:49] Voice 7: feasible, right? The same with amenities zoning. Staff may come back to me on the amenities

[0:29:58] Voice 7: zoning and say it doesn't fit in this ad.

[0:30:00] Voice 7: application, Ben, you're an idiot for asking for it, and we'll take it up. But it never hurts on

[0:30:07] Voice 7: any application. But look at the broad scope. Let staff look at the broad scope of the application

[0:30:13] Voice 7: and see what's available. Staff may come back to us and direct us in a way that clarifies

[0:30:21] Voice 7: the request. But the reality is those four adjacent lots have landlocked. They cannot

[0:30:28] Voice 7: build your customer just because it's landlocked this application could provide an access nobody

[0:30:35] Voice 7: else can so so i don't think my requests are out of line but staff may come come back and tell me

[0:30:43] Voice 7: they are applied fine that's that's

[0:30:47] Voice 8: our job here so i don't want to remove them and

[0:30:55] Voice 7: i think we

[0:30:57] Voice 7: we don't remove them because it's our job to look at the big picture first and then start to hone it

[0:31:04] Voice 7: down. I think at the end of the day, the applicant rewards themselves by going through this process

[0:31:10] Voice 7: and figuring out if there's things that they can do which are not detriment to their application,

[0:31:17] Voice 7: but are a plus for the community. So there's simply a request for a staff report. I'm not

[0:31:25] saying there has to be an amenity zone

[0:31:28] Voice 7: in this application all i'm saying is if we ask for

[0:31:31] Voice 7: amenities only staff will get back let's say how that is done or if it's done or if it's possible

[0:31:35] Voice 7: right same would be access to the four days and just asking for status feedback on that

[0:31:42] Voice 7: and um yeah the consultations yeah let's let's do that let's let's get together yeah

[0:31:49] Voice 7: yeah um so generally we don't hear

[0:31:55] Voice 6: from uh the members of the public but in this case i cannot

[0:32:01] Voice 6: i'd say hand up and i'm gonna break a little territory i'm

[0:32:06] Voice 7: gonna thank you for the uh concerns

[0:32:08] Voice 7: brought up but you know i just have to let everyone know we're really appreciate you

[0:32:16] Voice 7: We appreciate the words coming from the L.E.M.

[0:32:18] Voice 7: and now that this is our territory,

[0:32:21] Voice 7: this is our land, those people on this wall

[0:32:25] Voice 7: that went to school here are my relatives.

[0:32:27] Voice 7: They're here from the 40s, 30s.

[0:32:31] Voice 7: You know, I have to bring this up

[0:32:34] Voice 7: because the communication has to keep going

[0:32:39] Voice 7: in order to work together to figure things out.

[0:32:42] Voice 7: So, you know, this opportunity to get a little bit of our land back is priceless to us.

[0:32:49] Voice 7: We're not going to build condos and all that stuff.

[0:32:53] Voice 7: We want to keep things pristine.

[0:32:57] Voice 7: You know, this is a good step in the racial justice.

[0:33:02] Voice 7: And I want to thank you guys for bringing the communication to us.

[0:33:07] Voice 7: We don't get to

[0:33:07] Voice 8: drive us home.

[0:33:09] Voice 8: We

[0:33:10] Voice 7: have all kinds of village sites, lots of history.

[0:33:14] Voice 7: I don't know, and I've been told a lot, but I always talk to me. I'm grateful for that.

[0:33:21] Voice 7: So, you know, I just want to remind everyone this was our home, and it still is. I still come here

[0:33:31] Voice 7: every fall. I come and visit. I go to the bakery.

[0:33:37] Voice 7: I go to the bakery I just want to remind everybody that you know every little bit we get back

[0:33:47] Voice 7: every access to an area where we can harvest beer where we can harvest plant with some

[0:33:53] Voice 7: plants and just utilize it in our historic ways a lot of these people I don't know all

[0:34:00] Voice 7: way along those are people i in person i know about let alone the elders at home on canals

[0:34:08] Voice 7: they talk about our homes all the way around the side you know we got a reserve site on

[0:34:17] Voice 7: north end and there needs to be a little time or so california

[0:34:22] Voice 7: we were big all the way around south bank parker island bonnie harvard you know we're still

[0:34:35] Voice 7: tend to these sacred sites still a lot of a lot of us aren't asked to talk about it

[0:34:42] Voice 7: openly before it's there and why is it so important because our out there is going to protect it

[0:34:48] Voice 7: i just want to remind everybody this is our home and we appreciate every opportunity

[0:34:56] Voice 7: we get to utilize the area respect and respect what we would need

[0:35:04] Voice 7: it's all there it's coming from the heart and this is our own to get a little bit of

[0:35:11] Voice 7: that a little bit of it back they still haven't proven to me what reconciliation is so we're

[0:35:18] Voice 7: taking that step boys i want to thank you all for being here it shows you care you're really

[0:35:24] Voice 7: showing your character we're all here to work together on it that we can get some back that's

[0:35:33] Voice 7: prices every little bit you know under 200

[0:35:38] Voice 8: 300 acres there's nothing

[0:35:40] Voice 7: compared to what we have

[0:35:41] Voice 7: utilized trails sacred trails up and down back and forth across this island with other sites

[0:35:48] Voice 7: when it's too rough too we need to travel around there's trails we just have to say that because

[0:35:56] Voice 7: because we all need to be relieved sometimes of history.

[0:36:04] Voice 7: We look at the present history, not the history of history a lot of the time.

[0:36:11] Voice 8: Anyone want to come and talk to me any time?

[0:36:17] Voice 8: Let's do it.

[0:36:19] Voice 8: Thank you.

[0:36:20] Voice 8: Thank you, yeah.

[0:36:21] Voice 7: Hi, I'm Kelly.

[0:36:23] Voice 7: I'm the land officer for an Olympic tribe,

[0:36:26] Voice 7: and I manage the land in New York

[0:36:29] Voice 7: and I work in the Avon

[0:36:31] Voice 7: and I'm a member of the Indigenous Service of Canada

[0:36:34] Voice 7: our land committee

[0:36:36] Voice 7: and the band members

[0:36:39] Voice 7: I was fortunate to be there

[0:36:42] Voice 7: when the applicants came and spoke with

[0:36:46] Voice 7: chief and council

[0:36:48] Voice 7: they didn't just go to one person on the beach

[0:36:51] Voice 7: and say hey I'm going to consult with you

[0:36:55] Voice 7: they came right to our community and they spoke with our leaders of the community the people that

[0:37:01] Voice 7: we voted in the people that we trust um and i feel like things can get misconstrued when they're a

[0:37:10] Voice 7: real person and i really appreciate the way that they respectfully came and spoke with us directly

[0:37:18] Voice 7: our people took only what they needed

[0:37:22] Voice 7: they utilized everything

[0:37:26] Voice 7: if they hunted they used every part

[0:37:29] Voice 7: every organ, every piece of it

[0:37:31] Voice 7: and I feel like they're only taking what they need

[0:37:35] Voice 7: they're not being greedy

[0:37:38] Voice 7: and they're giving back

[0:37:40] Voice 7: and that's the way our people used to give back

[0:37:44] Voice 7: and my great grandmother

[0:37:48] Voice 7: was born here

[0:37:49] Voice 7: and we feel at home here and they help us feel at home even after just meeting a few times

[0:37:56] Voice 7: you can tell they're you know they're good people and I just I want to say sometimes

[0:38:01] Voice 7: having a middle person in there as well which is saying like they came directly to us so

[0:38:07] Voice 7: I just wanted to share that like sometimes one person has a different perception different

[0:38:14] Voice 7: my life experience and incorporate message so i thank you thank you

[0:38:23] Voice 6: for that and um as far as

[0:38:28] Voice 6: the ltc reaching out to connecticut it sounds like i mean we've got some folks maybe we can

[0:38:33] Voice 6: have a chat today after our meeting and and think you know get an idea from you guys what

[0:38:39] Voice 6: what's workable um from your end and i'm totally in support of you know direct communication and

[0:38:48] Voice 6: of course the staff staff stuff is going to happen as a matter of course but uh

[0:38:53] Voice 7: let's get to know each other and fully in support of that so was there anything else

[0:38:59] Voice 7: on the follow-up action report today i just have one question yeah um and number nine

[0:39:09] Voice 7: Um, because I see Danica here, um, whether, whether we made any progress, uh, it wasn't

[0:39:16] Voice 7: under nine for the, um, animal court.

[0:39:19] Voice 9: Um,

[0:39:20] Voice 7: yeah, the right email that ALC is, um, uh, under staff right now.

[0:39:25] Voice 7: So there's just been a blank email sent out that there's going to be a delay in their

[0:39:29] Voice 7: response.

[0:39:29] Voice 7: So I'm not sure if it's been delivered, the staff report from you guys has been delivered

[0:39:35] Voice 7: to them yet or where we're at with this thing.

[0:39:39] Voice 8: okay okay so then let's

[0:39:46] Voice 7: move along uh brings us to delegations and before i murder your

[0:39:56] Voice 7: name peter i'll give you the floor um uh give you uh 10 minutes to present

[0:40:06] Voice 7: your delegation material here and then we'll have a set aside a few minutes for questions and answers

[0:40:13] Voice 7: after that so please proceed

[0:40:17] Voice 1: thank you chair if you don't mind i'm going to stay seated because

[0:40:20] Voice 1: i've got a bit of a back issue no problem

[0:40:21] Voice 1: um i don't know most of the people here notwithstanding

[0:40:25] Voice 1: that i spend most of my time on this island nice to meet you art um and because i don't i'm going

[0:40:32] Voice 1: going to provide a bit of background. I grew up in a small town in the Yukon, Whitehorse,

[0:40:37] Voice 1: and it's one of the reasons why I love living on this island so much. It's also the place I was

[0:40:42] Voice 1: taught two very important things from my father, who said, avoid whenever possible getting mixed

[0:40:49] Voice 1: up in small town feuds and disputes, and don't ever become a lawyer. But if you do, for God's

[0:40:56] Voice 1: sake don't tell people you did and so I've tried very hard to follow both those rules since I moved

[0:41:03] Voice 1: here but that changed when I was sent a link of the June 2020-23 council meeting I watched it as

[0:41:12] Voice 1: a lawyer I was quite troubled by the fairly obvious disregard for procedure and binding policy and law

[0:41:20] Voice 1: and I'm going to come to that in a moment but policy and the law is not unclear and to the

[0:41:25] Voice 1: the extent there's a disagreement and i take it that there is one between trustee neighborly and

[0:41:30] Voice 1: trustee gobro i just put your name i apologize um as to what the duty to consult is how the

[0:41:37] Voice 1: referral process works and what is and is not the job of this council it's not in dispute

[0:41:44] Voice 1: and so because my client and i both believe very strongly i want this to be clear because i'm sure

[0:41:50] Voice 1: things will end up on galileo acts but because we believe very strongly in the trust mandate

[0:41:56] Voice 1: and its commitment to reconciliation and i i accept what the representative from

[0:42:02] Voice 1: said that there's much work to be done on reconciliation much clarity that's required

[0:42:07] Voice 1: and i'm going to come to that because one of the things that happened in june was a garbling of

[0:42:13] Voice 1: the law and the principles relating to that very issue and it's it's really going to set it back

[0:42:19] Voice 1: rather than advance it and I don't think anyone wants to do that and so I have two goals today

[0:42:25] Voice 1: the first is and I'm not going to talk about the island skews I'm going to talk about the law

[0:42:29] Voice 1: in the hopes that I can persuade the three trustees to do their job in accordance with

[0:42:35] Voice 1: your clear policies and the legislation and failing that I'm going to create a clear record

[0:42:41] Voice 1: so that if you don't do your job we can deal with this before the supreme court

[0:42:47] Voice 1: and they will force you to do your job because it's not not to be a contentious application

[0:42:51] Voice 1: and I see Mr. Maberly smiling and so welcome to his involvement in this the application

[0:43:00] Voice 1: and I want to just step back for a moment Mr. Maberly said that it's our job to look at the

[0:43:07] Voice 1: big picture and to bring various issues forward and with respect that's not this council's job

[0:43:15] Voice 1: This council's job is to ensure its actions, and this is directly from the trust website, to ensure its actions and decisions are lawful, not negligent, and for a proper purpose.

[0:43:27] Voice 1: Its decisions, as the website also said, must be consistent with the mandate of the island's trust, which is to preserve and protect the trust area and its unique amenities and environment for the benefit of the residents of the trust area in British Columbia as a whole.

[0:43:43] Voice 1: And again, as the representative from Penelope said, to try to keep things pristine to the extent possible.

[0:43:50] Voice 1: Local trust committees like this one must apply, must apply the Islands Trust Act and related legislation.

[0:43:59] Voice 1: And we're going to come to that because everyone seems to accept the current referral process needs much work at the Islands Trust level.

[0:44:06] Voice 1: It is not for this body to, on a case-by-case basis, come up with its own solution in circumstances

[0:44:14] Voice 1: where clarity and consistency are required.

[0:44:16] Voice 1: And so this application, and this is the part that particularly infuriates me, is brought

[0:44:23] Voice 1: by someone who's not trying to profiteer and add density, is not trying to subdivide like

[0:44:29] Voice 1: crazy but is trying to protect a bunch of and a fairly significant piece of forest lands and to

[0:44:37] Voice 1: not do anything with it there's not a desire for massive redevelopment and that's been made very

[0:44:45] Voice 1: clear by the concessions that have been made that aren't required to be made in order to limit

[0:44:50] Voice 1: dwelling size and to dramatically limit the things that can be done on the property and so

[0:44:57] Voice 1: So, again, because of Caliano X, I want to be clear that there is no dispute that reconciliation is essential and that it needs to be advanced at all costs.

[0:45:09] Voice 1: In fact, my client was one of the main proponents for it when she was a trustee of this very council.

[0:45:16] Voice 1: What does that mean though in this case when we're talking about words like engagement, duty to consult, consultation, we need clarity in order to make sure that the objectives we're trying to accomplish are actually accomplished, and that there isn't confusion.

[0:45:31] Voice 1: future. So a two-minute Google search of local government act and duty to consult comes up as a

[0:45:39] Voice 1: first hit with the following. The province is legally obligated to consult and accommodate

[0:45:44] Voice 1: first nations. That legal obligation is a constitutional requirement from the constitutional

[0:45:51] Voice 1: structure of Canada. That's where that comes from. It applies to the provincial government. It applies

[0:45:56] Voice 1: to the federal government. It does not apply to local governments. The same website makes it clear

[0:46:03] Voice 1: that while local governments do not have the provincial government's constitutional obligation,

[0:46:09] Voice 1: how could they? To consult with First Nations, there are many practical reasons for engaging

[0:46:15] Voice 1: with First Nations on matters of mutual interest. My client is in no way suggesting that that

[0:46:20] Voice 1: engagement should not happen. It just needs to happen in accordance with the law and with a

[0:46:26] Voice 1: proper process. I'm quite concerned to hear Mr. Maple Leaf suggest that he has, contrary to the

[0:46:32] Voice 1: clear policies of this council, which dictate how information is to be accessed and used and

[0:46:39] Voice 1: conveyed, meeting with First Nations on his own, and we're apparently learning about it in the

[0:46:43] Voice 1: context of this meeting. That same website also says local government engagement with First

[0:46:49] Voice 1: nations differs from the provincial government's constitutional duty to consult on potential

[0:46:55] Voice 1: impacts to Indigenous interests. No one is taking issue with engagement, but the suggestion that

[0:47:03] Voice 1: it's a duty to consult confuses matters, and it creates problems for consistency of application

[0:47:08] Voice 1: and advancing reconciliation in a way that makes sense

[0:47:12] Voice 8: of the actual legal structure.

[0:47:13] Voice 8: The Policy 5

[0:47:18] Voice 1: .4.2 Procedural Fairness and Rezonings, and I'm going to explain why in a moment this is applicable, says that trustees should avoid motions to add significant decisions about rezoning applications as late items on an LTC agenda,

[0:47:33] Voice 1: and that decisions and actions shall be clearly authorized by and consistent with applicable government statutes and regulations,

[0:47:40] Voice 1: and decisions should be based on accurate, relevant information, excluding the relevant considerations.

[0:47:46] Voice 1: When this issue came before the Council in June, the staff had recommendations that a thought should be followed,

[0:47:53] Voice 1: and a motion was put forward to do just that.

[0:47:57] Voice 1: And then at the last moment, Mr. Mabry-Leach and Trustee Mabry-Leach are getting to think forward

[0:48:03] Voice 1: with a bunch of additions that seemingly came out of thin air to deal with the addition of a road,

[0:48:10] Voice 1: removal of trees so that you can provide access to private properties so that they can develop

[0:48:15] Voice 1: private homes, seemingly to create affordable housing by removing a bunch of trees and other

[0:48:24] Voice 1: things, including the modification of a referral process to a duty to consult process.

[0:48:32] Voice 1: And so if you look at the video, and I've now watched it four times,

[0:48:38] Voice 1: Trustee Gouvereau raised a question about whether or not the duty to consult was applicable to a local government under the Local Governments Act.

[0:48:49] Voice 1: Wanted to engage in it, wanted to consider it further, and what happened is Mr. Maverly said,

[0:48:55] Voice 1: so are you saying we shouldn't consult at all? To which Trustee Gouvereau obviously said, no, I'm not.

[0:49:01] Voice 1: lot and then the discussion got sidetracked from an obvious proposition which is correct which is

[0:49:08] Voice 1: this doesn't have anything to do with the duty consult and it's not for the applicant to deal

[0:49:14] Voice 1: with a duty consult that's a constitutional obligation for federal and provincial governments

[0:49:19] Voice 1: saying nothing of the need for reference and for engagement which is what trustee Gavron was

[0:49:27] Voice 1: trying to accomplish today by saying maybe we went a little too far let's go back to what the

[0:49:32] Voice 1: policies clearly say and what the law clearly says and trustee peterson you rightly acknowledged and

[0:49:41] Voice 1: you did it at the beginning of today and then at the last meeting that there's a process that

[0:49:45] Voice 1: needs to be improved and i think you acknowledge that that needs to be done at the island's trust

[0:49:49] Voice 1: level not in this room lovely though it is and the important thing that needs to be understood

[0:49:56] Voice 1: is that process change needs to be done consistently across all of the local trust

[0:50:02] Voice 1: groups. It needs to be done provincially for that fact, for that matter. And it needs to be

[0:50:07] Voice 1: consistent because if we do this on a case-by-case basis in a way that creates confusion, you've got

[0:50:12] Voice 1: one trustee group doing X, one doing Y, First Nations talking amongst each other, it's going

[0:50:19] Voice 1: to be complete mayhem. And that's why the Islands Trust specifically says on its website that it is

[0:50:25] Voice 1: committed to supporting the province to achieve its goals of meeting the obligations under

[0:50:33] Voice 1: UNDRIP, whatever it is, from 2009. And so when we get to the asks, and the trustee may have

[0:50:41] Voice 1: already said, someone can tell me that it doesn't fit within the application, but he's an idiot for

[0:50:46] Voice 1: asking for it. I won't go so far as to suggest he was an idiot for asking for it, but he was

[0:50:51] Voice 1: is across the line because asking for zoning

[0:50:55] Voice 1: for Galliano Housing Organization

[0:50:57] Voice 1: is not within this trust jurisdiction

[0:50:59] Voice 1: in circumstances in which the application

[0:51:02] Voice 1: is not seeking to do something outside the OCP

[0:51:05] Voice 1: and completely different from what the zoning is.

[0:51:08] Voice 1: When it's within the OCP,

[0:51:11] Voice 1: they get to do this kind of F1 to F3 rezoning.

[0:51:16] Voice 1: And this trust has no entitlement

[0:51:19] Voice 1: to demand concessions like give us your property and so when trustee maverly said i would like to

[0:51:25] Voice 1: see this that's him asking personally this group does not as a body have the jurisdiction to do

[0:51:31] Voice 1: that the same goes for the four land bought properties i find it particularly rich that

[0:51:36] Voice 1: the suggestion is we need to meet these various objectives of keeping things pristine and the

[0:51:43] Voice 1: suggestion is being maybe we should cut in a new road take down the trees that my client's trying

[0:51:47] Voice 1: to protect so that four private property owners can have access to their properties these being

[0:51:55] Voice 1: uh private citizens who acquired property knowing very well that they were landlocked

[0:52:02] Voice 1: that's not within this the jurisdiction of this

[0:52:04] Voice 8: group and so it okay so let's ask you to

[0:52:12] Voice 8: to wrap up right so uh

[0:52:15] Voice 7: i'm going to advance two motions today that's not something

[0:52:21] Voice 6: you can you

[0:52:23] Voice 6: can't advance motions i

[0:52:24] Voice 1: made it very clear in the materials i sent to the trust that i

[0:52:28] Voice 6: was doing so

[0:52:29] Voice 1: you can definitely ask

[0:52:30] Voice 7: us to consider motions but say

[0:52:32] Voice 7: you can't actually what you need is one of us to advance a motion but go ahead

[0:52:43] Voice 1: I'm going to ask then that the trustees do what the

[0:52:51] Voice 8: trustee suggested at

[0:52:55] Voice 1: the beginning,

[0:52:59] Voice 1: which is withdraw the clearly impermissible due to the consult language,

[0:53:04] Voice 1: language, the for private property access, the

[0:53:09] Voice 8: affordable

[0:53:10] Voice 8: health app, which are not within the group. And while I did ask

[0:53:35] Voice 8: for 30 minutes, it

[0:53:38] Voice 1: was given 10. It's there's an important

[0:53:41] Voice 1: conflict bias, which are too distinct to the conduct necessary

[0:53:55] Will,

[0:56:06] Voice 8: are you there?

[0:56:39] Voice 4: Sorry, I was on mute.

[0:56:41] Voice 4: Yes, I'm here.

[0:56:43] Voice 4: But we've lost the venue again.

[0:56:48] Voice 4: So I'm just checking in with Mark to see if he thinks it's best for them to just switch to OBS recording, in which case you won't be able to take minutes.

[0:57:01] Voice 4: And we'll have to get someone there to take minutes.

[0:57:04] Voice 4: but we will see um we'll see what mark has to say and i'll keep you updated hopefully they're

[0:57:10] Voice 4: trying to get back on again right now i'll just stand

[0:57:14] Voice 4: by then well okay beginning

[0:59:32] Voice 8: of the indian

[0:59:33] Voice 8: act we know every

[0:59:37] Voice 7: bit of it is a failure every bit and the reason they adopted under and the

[0:59:43] Voice 7: province adopted drip on was to try and remediate or get to a point where we weren't failing as much

[0:59:52] Voice 7: But let's face it, the federal government has failed for an awfully long time, right?

[0:59:58] Voice 7: of him.

[1:00:00] Voice 7: I'm not going to apologize for trying to make small steps.

[1:00:06] Voice 7: If the applicant feels that First Nations shouldn't be consulted on their application.

[1:00:13] Voice 7: Okay.

[1:00:15] Voice 6: Actually, I was going to request is that instead of, I think we've heard your point.

[1:00:31] Voice 6: Yeah.

[1:00:31] Voice 6: what i actually really wanted is is that there was actually questions for the delegate

[1:00:37] Voice 1: some speech may i reply i think i'm entitled to that in light of that last comment which is

[1:00:42] Voice 1: outrageous uh

[1:00:45] Voice 6: i after 10

[1:00:48] Voice 6: minutes i would uh i would uh actually prefer to move on i think that

[1:00:52] Voice 6: there's some issues here that are not going to be resolved in a dialogue in this public meeting

[1:00:57] Voice 6: and

[1:00:58] Voice 1: so i'm just going to say this for the record the statements by trustee moverly are available

[1:01:04] Voice 1: in the reporting i've not been given an opportunity to address them notwithstanding that

[1:01:11] Voice 1: they're factually directly inconsistent with me saying just so we're clear we're not saying the

[1:01:17] Voice 1: thing he just said said we are saying and if he wants to listen to staff reports they told him

[1:01:23] Voice 1: what the law was on this last time and

[1:01:25] Voice 7: he disregarded it okay fair enough and uh as i said

[1:01:32] Voice 7: before i i

[1:01:33] Voice 6: think that part of uh part of what i've heard from you today is beyond the direct

[1:01:38] Voice 6: purview of this committee and uh needs to be addressed

[1:01:43] Voice 7: at uh either at staff or executive

[1:01:46] Voice 7: any level so uh i don't

[1:01:53] Voice 6: i don't expect that that's put in any particular satisfaction

[1:01:57] Voice 7: today but i

[1:01:57] Voice 7: apologize for that um moving on in our agenda here see we have a break scheduled and we're

[1:02:09] Voice 6: going to look to trustees and staff can we take the break now and then we'll come back and get

[1:02:13] Voice 6: anything sorry

[1:02:14] Voice 1: sorry and just so i know was the motion being that i requested uh

[1:02:20] Voice 7: that there was

[1:02:22] Voice 7: i didn't have a motion on the floor at this time well

[1:02:24] Voice 1: we skipped over because of the comments that

[1:02:26] Voice 1: trustee may really

[1:02:27] Voice 6: that's going to be advanced we can get back to that if if if it's the will

[1:02:31] Voice 6: of the local trustee so i'm going to call the recess um i'm going to

[1:02:36] Voice 7: go and say let us come back

[1:02:42] Voice 7: that at 20 past two.

[1:02:51] Voice 4: Chair Peterson.

[1:02:55] Voice 4: Chair Peterson.

[1:02:57] Voice 4: Chair Peterson, that's Will.

[1:03:02] Voice 4: Hello, Chair Peterson, can you hear me?

[1:03:11] Voice 2: I can hear you, I'm right up next to the speaker now.

[1:03:14] Voice 4: Okay, sorry, so you're probably aware

[1:03:17] Voice 4: we lost you for a considerable amount of time there just recently and for a while previously

[1:03:24] Voice 4: as well i'm wondering if um if for the sake of a of a recording whether it might be better to

[1:03:33] Voice 4: to switch to obs if there is someone there who can um i

[1:03:39] Voice 2: i can do that who can take minutes

[1:03:43] Voice 2: yeah what i'll do is i can come back um and of course the recording can be made available to

[1:03:50] Voice 2: the minute taker yeah

[1:03:52] Voice 4: yeah

[1:03:53] Voice 2: if you then is when i when we come back from when we come back from

[1:03:57] Voice 2: the break i'll just switch over to the recording and we'll just do that for the rest of the meeting

[1:04:01] Voice 2: okay

[1:04:02] Voice 4: and then we'll we'll end the zoom we'll end the zoom meeting and uh yeah if someone can record

[1:04:09] Voice 4: yeah

[1:04:09] Voice 2: well can you post a little note on the i

[1:04:14] Voice 4: will do note

[1:04:15] Voice 2: on the zoom meeting saying that

[1:04:17] Voice 2: we're going to switch over and apologize for the technical blah blah blah yes okay i will do great

[1:04:22] Voice 2: thanks thank

[1:04:22] Voice 2: you okay thank you

[1:04:24] Voice 5: chair peterson it's lisa the recorder are you there chair

[1:04:29] Voice 5: chair chair peterson i

[1:04:36] Voice 4: don't think

[1:04:37] Voice 5: he's there yep go ahead we missed the part where they went

[1:04:41] Voice 5: oh uh the june 20th minutes i don't know if there's any changes or if they uh approved as

[1:04:49] Voice 5: as presented yeah um but i'm not and i've also so but we're only out for a short period of time

[1:04:59] Voice 5: that first time yeah so the timing seems to be that they were they were approved it was presented

[1:05:05] Voice 5: but yeah yeah so i just don't know that part so i'm

[1:05:10] Voice 4: not sure how to

[1:05:10] Voice 5: qualify that yeah well we'll

[1:05:13] Voice 4: we'll confirm and uh we might have to confirm after the fact with the planner i'm sure she's

[1:05:20] Voice 4: been keeping track because she was

[1:05:22] Voice 5: going to keep

[1:05:23] Voice 4: track of the resolutions so

[1:05:25] Voice 5: well basically at

[1:05:26] Voice 5: this point i'll i'll wait i guess i'll wait until it comes back and says that it's going to recording

[1:05:31] Voice 4: yes and

[1:05:33] Voice 5: um i mean i i didn't get a lot of uh uh mr um sink peels uh comments which right

[1:05:43] Voice 5: um it's

[1:05:44] Voice 4: what it is okay yeah okay okay thanks yeah okay lisa chair peterson has indicated that

[1:21:52] Voice 4: that he is leaving the meeting due to the connectivity issues

[1:21:56] Voice 4: and he will record on OBS from now on.

[1:22:00] Voice 4: So I am going to end the meeting for everyone, all right?

[1:22:06] Voice 4: Lisa, can you hear me?

[1:22:09] Voice 8: I did, Will, thank you, I got that.

[1:22:11] Voice 8: Okay,

[1:22:12] Voice 4: thanks, bye.