Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, February 15, 2024

[0:07:29] Voice 12: to the side there okay in

[0:07:36] Voice 8: order to protect and improve our fresh water we need to work together

[0:07:41] Voice 8: the quantity and quality of our fresh water supply is essential to the public health and

[0:07:46] Voice 8: sustainable communities the climate has changed while our population economy continues to grow

[0:07:51] Voice 8: increasing the demand progressive on our water resources please do not make amendments to those

[0:07:56] Voice 8: or increased uses permitted in RW1 zones or 130 Blackburn Road.

[0:08:04] Voice 8: Transport Canada even recognized the importance of protecting our freshwater lakes with Hellspring Island.

[0:08:10] Voice 8: Christian Lake is a Schedule 3 lake, while Blackburn Lake is a Schedule 2 lake by Transport Canada.

[0:08:17] Voice 8: Only electric motors are allowed on Christian Lake, while Blackburn Lake does not allow any electric motors or power-driven vessels of any kind.

[0:08:25] Voice 8: Why? They do not want the bottom sediments that hold the phosphorus disturbed as it contributes to cytobacterium.

[0:08:33] Voice 8: They also want to protect the whole bottom ecosystem of the lake.

[0:08:38] Voice 8: Trees are also important for the welfare of our lakes.

[0:08:41] Voice 8: Property owners should be encouraged to plant at least one tree for every tree they cut down.

[0:08:46] Voice 8: The less soil disturbance there is to protect our lakes, the better.

[0:08:50] Voice 8: Phosphorus is usually only released when the soil is disturbed.

[0:08:53] Voice 8: The soil at 130 Blackburn Road is greatly disturbed and is only 30 meters from the wetlands

[0:09:00] Voice 8: and streams draining into Christian Lake on the west end of Christian Lake.

[0:09:05] Voice 8: Some farm builders have made changes in how they do their activities on the land to protect

[0:09:10] Voice 8: the water.

[0:09:11] Voice 8: After the extreme sign of bacterial bloom in 1999, Christian Lake Farm switched to phosphorus-free

[0:09:18] Voice 8: fertilizer, not available commercially, it had to be specially made.

[0:09:22] Voice 8: It was expected. They wanted to do their part to remove the phosphorus.

[0:09:27] Voice 8: So it can be done, and other people can do a lot to help protect the water.

[0:09:32] Voice 8: And we rely on U.S. trustees to do their part.

[0:09:35] Voice 8: In 2007, Gannon, Chief Medical Health Officer, stated that he would not register

[0:09:41] Voice 8: the Christian Water State management plans until it was the last resort.

[0:09:45] Voice 8: Are we approaching the last resort, and should we go against the Chief Medical Health Officer?

[0:09:50] Voice 8: The Chief Medical Health Officer overrides the Islas Trust as we saw during the pandemic.

[0:09:56] Voice 8: Islas Health is responsible for administrating the Drinking Water Protection Act and the

[0:10:01] Voice 8: Drinking Water Regulation.

[0:10:03] Voice 8: Please read my letter, which starts on page 126 of the agenda package, if you've not already

[0:10:09] Voice 8: read it.

[0:10:10] Voice 8: It provides more detail.

[0:10:12] Voice 8: And I tried to make it so basically everything was at your fingertips so you didn't have

[0:10:17] Voice 8: to search like I did for all the answers.

[0:10:19] Voice 8: better so i appreciate this opportunity to speak thank you thank

[0:10:23] Voice 10: you thank you for that um so i'm

[0:10:27] Voice 10: going to move over to this side and i'll start the friday work to the back uh maxine we're here

[0:10:37] Voice 11: um first of all uh you know historically delegations have always gone

[0:10:50] Voice 11: I'm not one of them, but I just urge you to consider if you haven't, it's a matter of

[0:10:57] Voice 11: courtesy.

[0:10:59] Voice 11: My other thing I want to talk about is the possible request for temporary use for the

[0:11:08] Voice 11: dog kennel.

[0:11:10] Voice 11: That watershed zone was created specifically to protect the lake because that lake is very vulnerable.

[0:11:17] Voice 11: It's shallow. The people around the lake, the lake gets the water directly out of the lake, shutting.

[0:11:23] Voice 11: You don't have to do the load treatment.

[0:11:26] Voice 11: We've been complaining for years about the situation where the wounds start and people in the whole community

[0:11:33] Voice 11: She doesn't know because the people who are informed about the flu have to do testing, and it takes a while.

[0:11:45] Voice 11: And so they sit there with toxic pointy hands of glue, and the neighbors don't know.

[0:11:51] Voice 11: A lot of people who live around that lake are renters, and they're not told about any problem.

[0:11:56] Voice 11: And I bet you, I would bet money, if they did a health study on the people who live around that lake, you'd find a problem.

[0:12:04] Voice 11: So we need to do everything we can to protect the lake, and this particular area, this particular area, because of the phosphorus from the animals, it can't be controlled.

[0:12:15] Voice 11: The very closeness to the lake is extremely hostile.

[0:12:21] Voice 11: And I would just urge you that, you know, zoning is put in place to protect property.

[0:12:27] Voice 11: That's why it's there, so people have insurance when they buy property.

[0:12:31] Voice 11: I know you care about private property rights people have insurance that they'll be protected

[0:12:37] Voice 11: by these laws and so there are changes for one person it just it's not right so a lot

[0:12:43] Voice 1: of it

[0:12:43] Voice 11: is a little more effective you know you've heard a lot of people you know like

[0:12:48] Voice 11: what she's doing there and it sounds like she's a good reason but you know there's more

[0:12:57] Voice 11: And the other thing I want to talk about is that in your agenda patch there is a report

[0:13:03] Voice 11: on the new housing legislation and in there it says that you can request to be included

[0:13:10] Voice 11: in a short-term to patient rental uh short-term that's in the province and for years I have

[0:13:18] heard trustees say that they want the

[0:13:22] Voice 11: crd to register uh vacation rentals so that these

[0:13:29] Voice 11: would be better for us now we have the opportunity to have the problems of a lot of the costs involved

[0:13:35] Voice 11: in this and i know we care a lot the only thing about housing here is something that we can do

[0:13:42] Voice 11: about the housing problem and it isn't going to cost us that much money so i don't limit you to

[0:13:49] Voice 11: ask for a report on this and you need things forward first of all thank you

[0:13:56] Voice 10: hey thank you for that and then i think the next guy on his cell is right here

[0:14:05] my name is final court representing the fettus water service community we are the elected body

[0:14:13] who represents over 300 people who use the Cushion Lake as our primary and only source of

[0:14:21] Voice 11: bottom of water. We encourage you to use, to protect our lake. It's the only drinking water

[0:14:33] source we have. It's a lake that in 2022 had the lowest water levels ever recorded,

[0:14:40] in the highest water temperature and this last weekend's readings of turbidity showed

[0:14:49] the same levels of turbidity as were similar to the event of the atmospheric river that washed

[0:14:58] out the bridge or washed out the culvert on both of the canyons so

[0:15:03] Voice 11: with that comes heavy nutrient

[0:15:05] Voice 11: nutrient loading into the lake and so with the predicted temperatures warming more use of the

[0:15:12] water less water you're setting the lake up for a big storm of sciatic blue algae bloom and if that

[0:15:23] happened we would have I think there's 600 roughly people who rely on the watershed cushion for their

[0:15:30] the pot of the water, not only would it not be drinkable, it would not be suitable for

[0:15:35] any kind of washing where you would be able to swim in the lake in the recreation.

[0:15:41] So we're asking you to protect our lake.

[0:15:46] The regulations are set out in the official community plan and we're asking you to enforce

[0:15:55] your own bylaw and in the protection of our lake.

[0:15:59] And if you look, I talked to the bylaw enforcement officer yesterday,

[0:16:05] Voice 11: and he started at the top

[0:16:08] Voice 11: of our watershed to the bottom of our watershed, it's a litany of violations from the top of

[0:16:18] people who disregard our visual community plan and the rules of how we respect each

[0:16:25] other's rights on the island which are heavy from robert's lake which were the people um

[0:16:32] decimated the wetlands that was once the fred howard property and it's now owned by multi

[0:16:40] um well a company from off island from international companies

[0:16:46] being

[0:16:47] Voice 11: destroyed and built roads right in the area.

[0:16:52] When they did that, it probably directly

[0:16:55] contributed to the washing out of the culvert in 2022

[0:17:01] as it was done

[0:17:02] Voice 11: right in that summer.

[0:17:04] Voice 11: So you travel right down to Blackbird Road,

[0:17:06] Voice 11: you have Blackbird Road where people just

[0:17:10] Voice 11: log right stood in the Park Christian Creek

[0:17:12] Voice 11: We can have logs in the last month.

[0:17:16] Anyway, so I won't go through the whole list,

[0:17:18] but we ask you to enforce your bylaws

[0:17:21] and your bylaw enforcement efforts.

[0:17:25] Voice 11: If you don't do that, then you basically can't amount

[0:17:28] Voice 11: to allowing people to do what they want

[0:17:31] Voice 11: and paying minimal fines or not collecting fines.

[0:17:35] It just becomes like a cost of business

[0:17:38] business and it doesn't set with the right practice and it engages.

[0:17:44] Can I ask you to include, please?

[0:17:46] Thank you.

[0:17:47] Voice 11: Can you include?

[0:17:48] Voice 11: I'm good.

[0:17:49] Voice 11: Okay.

[0:17:50] Voice 11: Thank you.

[0:17:50] Voice 11: Could I please ask a question?

[0:17:51] Voice 11: Yeah.

[0:17:53] Voice 11: Where was there logging in Christian Creek?

[0:17:56] Well, Christian Creek, when it passes through Blackburn Road, they

[0:18:02] Voice 11: just, if you

[0:18:04] Voice 11: If you drive, it's just you drive up Lockburn Road, and there's like 100 trees that were removed from the highway right away.

[0:18:15] Voice 11: Right, for Hydroline.

[0:18:16] Voice 11: For the Hydroline, for Hydroline.

[0:18:18] Voice 11: But none of those people, they were supposed to get a repair in the south before they stood there in the creek and log.

[0:18:30] Voice 11: like they're there they have all the same rules right whether it was highways whether it was

[0:18:37] Voice 11: high road or were they logging into the creek yeah in the area so for sure there's they would

[0:18:45] Voice 11: have had to literally had it put in the creek while they took that okay thank you and then

[0:18:55] Voice 10: And looking for hands, let's throw it back.

[0:18:57] Voice 10: Yes, please.

[0:19:00] Hi there.

[0:19:08] Voice 11: My name is Jack Rosen.

[0:19:09] Voice 11: I've been on Cushion Lake for 33 years.

[0:19:13] Voice 11: And, you know, most of what I'm going to say has been said.

[0:19:19] But I do take, I've been on

[0:19:22] Voice 11: the Cushion Lake Watershed Committee since it was formed.

[0:19:27] And we've been taking readings.

[0:19:30] I've been taking readings.

[0:19:31] I took the readings a few days ago and

[0:19:35] Voice 11: zoning is made for a reason, watershed for a reason.

[0:19:45] Nobody particularly understands the delicateness of this lake. I take the readings

[0:19:54] and the amount of phosphorus in the

[0:19:57] Voice 11: bottom of the lake is never going to change.

[0:19:59] Voice 11: I'm never going to get that phosphorus I would like but it's amazing during summer seasons

[0:20:07] Voice 11: it's the amount of phosphorus that can create a bloom on the lake is so small that it can

[0:20:16] Voice 11: be measured in your hand and I teach fresh water ecology to the school board students

[0:20:27] Voice 11: students and we relate all kinds of information about cutting within the watershed about leaving

[0:20:38] Voice 11: vegetation lily pads bull rushes i mean it's all ecosystem that's important we've all got

[0:20:47] Voice 11: our uses we all we all collect our toilets and we're all trying to be really careful about how

[0:20:57] Voice 11: much water we put into our septic systems and into our fields so that we limit what's actually going

[0:21:03] into the lake

[0:21:04] Voice 11: there's a huge educational program and so that change zoning in our watershed just

[0:21:09] Voice 11: seems so counterintuitive to keeping safe water in this community and it's the survival of those

[0:21:20] Voice 11: that are not just on the lake but a lot of those are outside the lake so i urge you to uphold the

[0:21:25] Voice 11: the zoning and to really um look at some of these um this information that everybody's giving you

[0:21:34] Voice 11: because it takes very little to unbalance the lake and create uh create a lake that

[0:21:41] Voice 11: we need so much filtration systems and we don't even know whether those filtration systems are

[0:21:48] Voice 11: really working so most of us buy our own water anyways but the lake is so important to many

[0:21:54] Voice 11: Maybe more people, like 600 people that are drinking out of this lake.

[0:21:59] Voice 11: But for recreational purposes, there's thousands of people that use this lake.

[0:22:04] Voice 11: And the amount of people that now use the public dark.

[0:22:10] Voice 11: And so I urge you to uphold Tony.

[0:22:15] Voice 11: Thank you.

[0:22:16] Voice 11: Did

[0:22:17] Voice 10: I see some more hands on this side?

[0:22:20] Voice 10: No.

[0:22:21] Voice 10: Oh, yes.

[0:22:22] Voice 10: Yes, sir.

[0:22:29] Voice 11: so my name is paul elbert i'm a fairly new resident along cushion lake last year um i brought

[0:22:38] Voice 11: my water from the lake and i can see this is a base the candle and the land use of multi-family

[0:22:47] Voice 11: being a bed for forgiveness rather than ask for permission i spent two years in town planning

[0:22:54] Voice 11: So we know the difficult position they're in.

[0:22:57] Voice 11: However, the zoning only allows for single-family.

[0:23:03] Voice 11: I know along Blackburn, the corner of Ganges,

[0:23:09] both with Grove and Borough, there's

[0:23:12] Voice 11: higher density.

[0:23:13] Voice 11: I have no idea of their sanitary treatment,

[0:23:19] Voice 11: but to have dogs leaving their excrement

[0:23:27] Voice 11: in our watershed is unacceptable i've contacted island health crd uh integrated waters now i sat

[0:23:37] Voice 11: on the water advisory committee for the crd for six years back in the 90s most of that watershed

[0:23:44] Voice 11: suit gold stream leach is protected this is not a protected owned watershed so you must do

[0:23:53] Voice 11: whatever's possible to keep it clean because you can't reverse it. It's interesting going by

[0:24:05] Voice 11: 130 Blackburn. They had a well there in one of the corners far away from the Interception

[0:24:14] right there in the energies.

[0:24:16] Voice 11: If you looked at the well atlas you'd see that. You also see

[0:24:22] Voice 11: a number of those small residences having 23 liter ducts for their water so either the well

[0:24:30] Voice 11: is not able for quality quantity to supply them they have to bring their own in i don't want that

[0:24:42] Voice 11: to happen to the rest of the ones so please adhere so thank you hey thank you and did i

[0:24:54] Voice 11: see some more hands up over there no

[0:24:59] Voice 10: okay uh well thank you everyone and we will move on to

[0:25:04] Voice 10: the delegation section next um so we have uh chris drake from the salt spring island water

[0:25:10] Voice 10: preservation society up first and

[0:25:17] Voice 11: uh you have uh 10 minutes sir okay uh thank you very much um

[0:25:23] Voice 11: for this opportunity um i'd like to acknowledge that you're all our

[0:25:33] Voice 11: My name is Chris Drake, and I'm the Vice President of the Water Conservation,

[0:25:38] Voice 11: Salt Spring Islands Water Conservation Society. I'm also an ecologist. I'm a local business owner.

[0:25:48] Voice 11: The Water Conservation Society is a non-partisan volunteer organization. It was established over

[0:25:55] Voice 11: for 40 years ago to protect and preserve the sources of portable water for all residents

[0:26:02] Voice 11: of Salt Spring Island. Protecting drinking water is only achieved in watersheds that

[0:26:08] Voice 11: end in time. Now we are very concerned that the salty dog kennel and tap ground poses a threat

[0:26:17] Voice 11: to the Christian Lake watershed. We have two main concerns. The first is the potential for

[0:26:24] with contamination of the surface and groundwater

[0:26:27] Voice 11: from both dog and human feces and other individuals

[0:26:31] Voice 11: such as we do on the students.

[0:26:41] Voice 11: This contamination would result from runoff,

[0:26:44] Voice 11: especially during high rainfall events.

[0:26:47] Voice 11: Our second main concern is the precedence

[0:26:51] such a OCP amendment would,

[0:26:53] would, or rezoning would

[0:26:57] Voice 11: create, potentially weakening regulations and water trade protections.

[0:27:03] Voice 11: We are not here to comment on the legality or suitability of this business, that is something

[0:27:10] Voice 11: that is best left to Islands Trust staff and trustees, perhaps lawyers.

[0:27:18] Voice 11: We also recognize that there is a lack of affordable housing on this island, and solutions

[0:27:24] Voice 11: are very complex and we believe that we are trying, all trying to balance this issue with

[0:27:33] Voice 11: strong protection for watersheds.

[0:27:40] Voice 11: So speaking to our first concern, due to its location, 130 Blackburn Road has a potential

[0:27:51] Voice 11: for surface and subsurface water flows directly into the wetlands off the west end of Cushman

[0:27:58] Voice 11: rate, particularly during higher rainfall events. The lot is only 30 meters from these drainage areas

[0:28:06] Voice 11: as shown on a map that we attached. We understand that there could be an average of 20 dogs,

[0:28:17] Voice 11: 40 dogs are in season. The operators say they plan to compost the dog feces on site

[0:28:24] Voice 11: and use it on the raised beds or garden and allow the urine to just go into the

[0:28:31] Voice 11: ground. With runoff, research shows these contaminants may eventually reach

[0:28:37] Voice 11: Kitchen Lake via the nearby wetlands and streams. Research also shows we face

[0:28:43] Voice 11: heavier winter rainfalls in future due to climate change, so the runoff will

[0:28:49] Voice 11: become increasingly significant. There are also numerous trailers and temporary

[0:28:56] Voice 11: living accommodations on site at 130 Blackburn Road. A prime concern is that these RVs and

[0:29:03] other accommodations have no septic fuel. So many pump-out tanks. The Island Health

[0:29:08] Drinking Water Protection Officer required the tanks to

[0:29:12] Voice 11: have alarms, but no alarms were

[0:29:14] Voice 11: installed. Apparently, as the owner stated, they were too expensive. It appears port-a-potties

[0:29:22] Voice 11: are also being used but no mention has been made of how often they are invented.

[0:29:28] Voice 11: Feces and urine contain high levels of phosphorus which are shown to be the factor to causing

[0:29:35] Voice 11: previous algal blooms to increase height. Algal blooms can produce a toxin that are lethal

[0:29:43] Voice 11: to humans and wildlife. Obviously this is alarming to all who depend on the community water supply

[0:29:50] Voice 11: and those who take their water directly from them.

[0:29:56] Voice 11: We want to recognize that the owner of Salty Dog

[0:30:00] Voice 11: Harris has taken certain measures to address our concerns over contamination. She hired Brad

[0:30:08] Voice 11: Fawson, an engineer with the Aurora Professional Group, to assess the site and write a report

[0:30:16] with recommendations. However,

[0:30:19] Voice 11: his operational assessment report dealt only with water from the

[0:30:25] Blackburn water management from the dog kennel knot of the campground. It referenced the distance

[0:30:33] draining from the site to Blackburn Lake but made no mention of

[0:30:38] Voice 11: the much closer wetlands downstream

[0:30:41] Voice 11: draining into Kushite. While those recommendations might be effective if fully and completely

[0:30:48] implemented, we don't believe these recommendations are realistic in

[0:30:53] Voice 11: this situation,

[0:30:54] Voice 11: question, nor do they take the precautionary principle into account.

[0:31:00] Voice 11: For instance, the recommended piezometers that would be used for monitoring are not

[0:31:07] Voice 11: sensitive to many pollutants and contaminants, such as pharmaceuticals.

[0:31:12] Voice 11: It must be remembered that damage to a watershed is very hard to undo, which is a reason for

[0:31:18] Voice 11: acting with an extra amount of precaution.

[0:31:24] Voice 11: Speaking to our second concern, the owner's request for a temporary use permit was justifiably

[0:31:31] Voice 11: denied at the October LTC meeting, based on a very thorough staff report and letters from

[0:31:40] Voice 11: neighbours and

[0:31:41] Voice 7: our

[0:31:41] Voice 11: organisation WPS.

[0:31:43] Voice 11: At the following LTC meeting, a number of speakers and letters supported the owner's

[0:31:50] Voice 11: wish to operate in this location.

[0:31:51] Voice 11: and at this stage the trustees suggested the owners apply for an official community plan

[0:31:59] Voice 11: amended or rezoned at the launch. Since this meeting we have been contacted by many members

[0:32:08] Voice 11: of our organization and many other residents asking us to speak against this business as it

[0:32:15] Voice 11: presently stands at this location and the potential contamination of the drinking water source we're

[0:32:22] Voice 11: almost 100 people. We believe an OCP amendment in this situation would set a very dangerous precedent.

[0:32:30] Voice 11: These watershed regulations have been very carefully created to protect and

[0:32:39] Voice 11: we think it's very dangerous that developments should receive a contravention of existing

[0:32:45] Voice 11: riparian bylaws and other watershed protection regulations. So we call on you, our elected

[0:32:54] trustees to uphold and enforce the existing bylaws that protect all of our watersheds.

[0:33:01] Voice 11: In particular, we urge you to maintain the current zoning at 130 Blackburn Road and not

[0:33:08] Voice 11: allow a cattle-bound campground or anything more than a single-family dwelling to be located there.

[0:33:14] Voice 11: In addition, we

[0:33:16] Voice 8: remind you that amendments to the Official Community Plan should only

[0:33:20] Voice 8: be made after a thorough community involvement at this

[0:33:24] Voice 11: session clean drinking water is vital for

[0:33:27] Voice 11: human and non-human health and well-being and our watersheds must be carefully protected now

[0:33:35] and into the future

[0:33:37] Voice 11: you have the opportunity and the responsibility to see what is done now

[0:33:41] Voice 11: to avoid future challenges uh trustees any questions for the billy

[0:33:52] Voice 11: you mentioned about the dog poop being used to fertilize your is that something you've

[0:33:58] Voice 11: heard before is there any i've never heard of that it's bad

[0:34:18] Voice 11: thank you

[0:34:20] Voice 11: thank you

[0:34:29] Voice 10: yes okay thank you very much and then next up we have uh doreen hewitt from the kushibank

[0:34:37] Voice 10: stewardship committee doing

[0:34:53] Voice 3: a powerpoint presentation so we'll just wait for it

[0:34:59] Voice 3: it's gonna work

[0:36:44] Voice 3: Okay. Good morning. I'm Doreen Hewitt, a retired high school science teacher and currently the

[0:36:51] Voice 3: chair of the Cushion Lady Stewardship Committee, a committee of over 50 people. I would like to

[0:36:58] Voice 3: congratulate you trustees in that you made the correct choice back at the November 2023 meeting.

[0:37:06] Voice 3: The LTC meeting did not issue a temporary use permit in R71 zoning, and you gave instructions

[0:37:15] Voice 3: to close the file.

[0:37:17] Voice 3: Thank you.

[0:37:18] Voice 3: You did the right thing, and I hope you will continue to do so.

[0:37:23] Voice 3: Next slide.

[0:37:32] Voice 3: Stewardship Committee is committed to the preservation and restoration of both the Cushion

[0:37:36] Voice 3: Lake and its watershed.

[0:37:38] Voice 3: That's too far.

[0:37:40] Voice 3: We hope to serve as an example of useful practices that all Canadian lakes can adopt.

[0:37:45] Voice 3: I have a brochure and a magnet that we have produced as a committee for each of you to pick

[0:37:51] Voice 3: up and it's on the far table in the back. As you see here, the Cushion Watershed encompasses

[0:37:58] Voice 3: three lakes. Roberts Lake, Blackburn Lake and Cushion Lake. Top to bottom and then the ocean.

[0:38:09] Voice 3: The health of these lakes and all of those who reside in the watershed confines are threatened

[0:38:15] Voice 3: by overdevelopment.

[0:38:17] Voice 3: Cushion Lake itself is the potable water source, the only potable water source for over 500

[0:38:23] Voice 3: people, including the Water District of Dennis.

[0:38:26] Voice 3: Next slide.

[0:38:29] Voice 3: Here you can see the big map of the watershed, it's outlined in green, Mike referred to that

[0:38:35] Voice 3: earlier.

[0:38:36] Voice 3: And there's a lot of violations that are happening in this watershed.

[0:38:40] Voice 3: Next slide.

[0:38:42] Voice 3: This watershed has the highest amount of water flowing through it, as well as being the largest

[0:38:49] Voice 3: watershed in the area.

[0:38:51] Voice 3: The land has changed a great deal since 2005.

[0:38:56] Voice 3: On this map of the CRD, Natural Areas Atlas, you can see that there were a lot of changes

[0:39:04] Voice 3: to that.

[0:39:07] Voice 3: You can see that there is increased tree cutting in the watershed, increased infractions that put

[0:39:14] Voice 3: the fresh water with more lots developed and an increase of impervious services, population

[0:39:23] Voice 3: increase, more people using the cushion lake water as a drinking source and many more people using it

[0:39:32] Voice 3: about racial purposes as you can visibly see especially in july may june july and august

[0:39:39] Voice 3: at the dock that has been placed at cushion lake it's actually a very dangerous place for children

[0:39:48] Voice 3: to play because of a very narrow road the increased events upon a change caused the

[0:39:56] Voice 3: algal blooms to occur earlier we're now getting them given in july and august and there is a

[0:40:04] Voice 3: extremely low event of water as mike mentioned back in his report or his talk in august of 2023

[0:40:14] Voice 3: i have actually recorded everything in the spreadsheet i have those uh going back to 1998.

[0:40:21] Voice 3: in 1998. Next slide. Why protect water? The biggest issues concerning the pollution of our drinking

[0:40:29] Voice 3: water are mismanaged, corrupting developments, soil disturbance, poorly maintained set fields

[0:40:38] Voice 3: or collection tanks, perilousness, and or family. Increased phosphorus neutralized by

[0:40:46] Voice 3: Many developers do not seek a permit first.

[0:40:50] Voice 3: They want forgiveness rather than asking for permission with a permit.

[0:40:57] Voice 3: This is dangerous for the protection of fresh water on Salt Spring Island.

[0:41:02] Voice 3: Next slide.

[0:41:05] Voice 3: These were the health notices that were issued in 1999.

[0:41:09] Voice 3: With regards to those two pictures that you saw earlier, that is what our water looks

[0:41:15] Voice 3: looks like when we have algal blooms.

[0:41:19] Voice 3: Number nine, that's the next one.

[0:41:22] Voice 3: What is cyanobacteria?

[0:41:23] Voice 3: I hope you've heard of it.

[0:41:25] Voice 3: If not, it's commonly known as blue-green algae

[0:41:27] Voice 3: or pond scum, it's really a bacteria.

[0:41:30] Voice 3: Cyanobacteria forms in this slow, shallow, warm water.

[0:41:37] Voice 3: It is, or still, it's made up of cells

[0:41:40] Voice 3: which can house poisons that are called cyanobacteria toxins

[0:41:43] Voice 3: and it's believed that most people did not drink

[0:41:45] Voice 3: the water, because it smells. But kushelite is the only fresh drinking water source for a huge

[0:41:54] Voice 3: number of people. And in the previous slide, or two slides back, you could see that there was a

[0:42:01] Voice 3: green corpse on it, and then it turned blue. That happened in just 15 days. Next slide.

[0:42:12] Voice 3: Prevention of algal blooms is really the only answer, but how are we going to do that?

[0:42:19] Voice 3: It is impossible to determine if and when an algal bloom will turn toxic.

[0:42:24] Voice 3: The amount of phosphorus needs to be reduced, and it's a small amount that could put it over the top.

[0:42:31] Voice 3: Healthy forests, natural vegetation prevent the needs for filtration plants that cost millions of dollars.

[0:42:37] Voice 3: Health Canada only allows 1.5 micrograms per liter of microcysteine, and the world's health is reducing that.

[0:42:47] Voice 3: they've gotten down to one, and they've actually changed the amount for recreational purposes from 20 to 10 micrograms.

[0:42:56] Voice 3: So you basically have to have an effective multi-barrier approach to safe drinking water.

[0:43:02] Voice 3: It's basically one that applies the best practices approach method in each aspect of drinking water.

[0:43:08] Voice 3: Clearly, land use precision in community watersheds that minimize the potential for pathogen contamination

[0:43:16] Voice 3: water supply are at the core of source water protection.

[0:43:22] Voice 3: RW1 zoning requires fewer land uses, not more.

[0:43:30] Voice 3: Next slide.

[0:43:32] Voice 3: Here you can see by law from the OCP, it's 434, 2008.

[0:43:40] Voice 3: Please do not amend the OCP or change the zone RW1 to allow

[0:43:45] Voice 3: a camel pound campground or more than one single family woman you would be setting a precedent for

[0:43:51] Voice 3: the entire artery one zone on this island increased density and increased land uses

[0:43:56] Voice 3: for a commercial facility will put the cushion watershed at increased health risk to both humans

[0:44:03] Voice 3: and fish and other endangered species that depend on the water quality of cushion lake as you see

[0:44:11] Voice 3: see here it's mentioned just go back please uh as you see here it said you do the OCP recommends

[0:44:21] Voice 3: that you should not be putting uh locating uh more and higher uh impacts into this area next

[0:44:32] Voice 3: zone or next slide sorry zoning for Watershed protection is not new let me explain how we got

[0:44:40] Voice 3: brought here with using some of the bylaws that we had in the past the bylaw uh from the crd when

[0:44:50] Voice 3: it looked after the island of the salt spring island and not the gulf islands was called bylaw

[0:44:54] Voice 3: they zoned this area w8 and then it was changed when the islands just formed its first bylaw

[0:45:03] Voice 3: and it was called 123 and they labeled it w1 and that same w1 or sorry that was

[0:45:12] Voice 3: bylaw 14. that stayed as uh same in bylaw one two three then uh in um with this bylaw number three

[0:45:22] Voice 3: by five they changed that to be rural watershed one and the zoning to protect the water was always

[0:45:32] Voice 3: kept separate before uh and in the early bylaws because it was at the higher priority of the

[0:45:38] Voice 3: on these cuts. The zoning of Kibatome by-laws lists this as Watershed Islet Residential.

[0:45:49] Voice 3: It should be kept separate from other rural zones to prevent confusion

[0:45:55] Voice 3: on which of the land uses are allowed. So if you turn to the next slide,

[0:46:01] Voice 3: you will see the W1 there. And then the next slide, you will see RW1 here. I'm just going

[0:46:11] Voice 3: to go over here. You can see RW1 and RW2. Very few items are there. But when it's mixed

[0:46:22] Voice 3: in with R, people get confused. They think the R means that they can still drink everything

[0:46:28] Voice 3: that's in R, as well as what is in RW1. So I believe that needs to be changed in the

[0:46:35] Voice 3: next writing of the swine environment. Next, the sharp-tailed snake is an endangered species

[0:46:47] Voice 3: that needs protecting, and you can see that it is located in the area that people have

[0:46:53] Voice 3: we've been talking about this morning.

[0:46:55] Voice 3: Lot, Baywood 130, Blackburn Road.

[0:47:01] Voice 3: Next slide.

[0:47:02] Voice 3: It is our collective responsibility to be the stewards

[0:47:05] Voice 3: of our environment and prevent unlawful activity

[0:47:08] Voice 3: before they occur.

[0:47:09] Voice 3: Notice the lot corner of Beaufort Ganges Road and Blackburn

[0:47:13] Voice 3: is only 30 meters away from wetlands and streams

[0:47:16] Voice 3: that flow into Cush and Lake.

[0:47:19] Voice 3: It makes one question why the Aurora Professional Group

[0:47:22] Voice 3: and the chemical engineer brad boston who did the operation of assessment of dog boarding at 130

[0:47:30] Voice 3: did not look at the entire watershed as you see here this is pretty much here this is black and

[0:47:42] Voice 3: white here he only measured this direction he didn't look at this direction i guess he didn't

[0:47:48] Voice 3: see the whole not very pleasant next slide but i'd like to bring to your attention the following

[0:48:00] Voice 3: resolution about using unlawful dwellings for residential purposes you wanted safe secure

[0:48:07] Voice 3: housing you have this seven items that were to be followed you can't see them very well there

[0:48:13] Voice 3: but in order to protect the cushioning watershed of all these should be enforced as residents

[0:48:21] Voice 3: We should not have to appeal to you as trustees to withhold our bylaws.

[0:48:27] Voice 3: We elected you to follow the Evans Trust Preserve and Protect mandate.

[0:48:33] Voice 3: You should be enforcing all the bylaws that we have and not instructing bylaw enforcement to withhold enforcement.

[0:48:41] Voice 3: Why do we have bylaws if we're not going to enforce them?

[0:48:47] Voice 3: Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to speak to you this morning.

[0:48:52] Voice 3: for

[0:48:54] Voice 11: that any instructions for the delegate no okay then we'll move on to section five trustee reports

[0:49:06] Voice 11: we'd like to go first this morning okay sure well thank you everybody for coming today

[0:49:17] Voice 11: one of the main things on my mind is what happened at our last ltc

[0:49:26] Voice 11: regarding the furthering of proof of groundwater for subdivision

[0:49:30] Voice 11: program requirements for subdivision thoughts that would look at furthering the island's trust

[0:49:42] Voice 11: reach into that area where it's already regulated by the province it's very concerning and i hope

[0:49:49] Voice 11: it'll be concerning to the whole community as this would uh if this is in the way the

[0:50:00] Voice 11: project was presented it would essentially make it impossible to subdivide

[0:50:08] with the banning of rain catchment store storage or desalination for

[0:50:15] a method of proof of water for the group of water for subdivisions

[0:50:22] currently

[0:50:22] Voice 11: these are all rain captain storage and desal are currently allowed

[0:50:25] Voice 11: of the water proof requirements by the province so that's you know very concerning it would be

[0:50:39] Voice 11: concerning to everybody um i just want to report on that and i think we'll just leave it there for

[0:50:50] Voice 11: now thank you trustee grass trustee perfect yeah you know a year ago i was uh eagerly looking

[0:51:02] Voice 11: forward to attending the first housing summit to be held in bc province made numerous uh announcements

[0:51:10] Voice 11: it all sounded promising and interesting that it was going to uh affect uh the housing in every

[0:51:17] Voice 11: community in bc but we soon found out as legislation showed up in the fall that every

[0:51:25] Voice 11: community in bc salt spring um and that uh this year this week they're meeting again for a housing

[0:51:34] Voice 11: summit in vancouver and uh i'm not listening to the announcements anymore because they're

[0:51:40] Voice 11: certainly not going to apply to salt spring and this is uh very discouraging um working on housing

[0:51:48] Voice 11: and providing choices for our diverse island is critically important and it's an immense and

[0:52:00] Voice 11: protracted uphill path to try to make those become available. But I'll keep at it because

[0:52:09] Voice 11: we have to have a healthy community to all be together to be resilient as we go forward

[0:52:15] Voice 11: in these times i've been very busy on a number of committees of the islands trust through the

[0:52:24] Voice 11: governance committee i'm also a member of a sub-working group called the corporate planning

[0:52:28] Voice 11: working group and we're working away on implementing a framework for developing a

[0:52:34] Voice 11: corporate planning structure for the islands trust there will be a working session on setting

[0:52:38] Voice 11: goals and objectives at the march trust council i'm a member of the hiring committee for the cao

[0:52:45] Voice 11: who's announced his retirement and this committee will be working on replacing our cio uh the

[0:52:53] Voice 11: financial planning committee is uh has its hands full trying to search for opportunities to determine

[0:52:58] Voice 11: the budget we'll be meeting again next week to search um there's a there was a been a lot of

[0:53:07] Voice 11: events that have been kicked off this year with the ferry advisory committee which i sit on

[0:53:11] Voice 11: has met so work with the new terminal that's coming at Vesuvius as well as scheduling and

[0:53:18] Voice 11: trying to find ways to fit in an extra run here or there. The Sailor Sea Conference I know was

[0:53:25] Voice 11: intended in person I intended virtually that was held by Transport Canada in Vancouver just a

[0:53:32] Voice 11: couple weeks ago on some interesting conversations but I didn't hear a whole lot of solutions to

[0:53:39] Voice 11: on the anguages that are around our island, trouble our residents.

[0:53:44] Voice 11: Elizabeth May convened a roundtable on

[0:53:47] Voice 11: Southern Gulf Island marine matters. Again, useful

[0:53:51] Voice 11: conversation. There'll be more advocacy work looking

[0:53:55] Voice 11: to the Transport Canada's effects of when they

[0:53:58] Voice 11: stopped regulating mooring buoys and what has occurred with

[0:54:03] Voice 11: the proliferation of mooring buoys as a result. The Southern

[0:54:07] Voice 11: gulf island forum which is a forum for all elected in the southern gulf islands from every

[0:54:14] Voice 11: group that has met as well they're planning a meeting with the minister of housing to understand

[0:54:21] Voice 11: what was intended by the new uh new act for short-term rentals what the ministry expected

[0:54:31] Voice 11: I assisted the Rural Island Economic Partnership in preparing a grant application for the Real

[0:54:41] Voice 11: Estate Foundation to develop a housing navigator organization for all the islands and the coastal

[0:54:49] Voice 11: community.

[0:54:50] Voice 11: And I also attended the Climate Caucus, which is across Canada.

[0:54:57] Voice 11: It was very interesting.

[0:54:58] Voice 11: this last speaker was

[0:55:01] Voice 11: sort of

[0:55:02] Voice 11: the ground zero of the 15

[0:55:04] Voice 11: minute city protests that had

[0:55:06] Voice 11: occurred all around the world from Oxford,

[0:55:08] Voice 11: England. He was talking about how

[0:55:10] Voice 11: to hold these

[0:55:12] Voice 11: conversations in communities and

[0:55:14] Voice 11: to do it in a

[0:55:16] Voice 11: respectful way.

[0:55:19] Voice 11: And that's my report.

[0:55:21] Voice 11: Thank you, Trustee Patrick.

[0:55:23] Voice 10: Next up is the Chair's

[0:55:25] Voice 10: report.

[0:55:28] Voice 10: Trustee Patrick covered briefly

[0:55:30] Voice 10: lead the uh meetings of both the governance uh committee and uh financial planning committee

[0:55:37] Voice 10: working towards um trust council's uh march uh meeting which will be uh focused on the budget

[0:55:46] Voice 10: um adoption uh i did attend the sailor c uh symposium in vancouver in person and um

[0:55:56] Voice 10: Yeah, that's Trustee Patrick.

[0:55:58] Voice 10: There's a lot of interesting discussion, but not an awful lot of action.

[0:56:03] Voice 10: I did take the opportunity to speak briefly with the Deputy Minister of Transport

[0:56:11] Voice 10: and then the following day of the Interim Assistant Deputy

[0:56:16] Voice 10: about the war and relief issues,

[0:56:19] Voice 10: the problems with Transport Canada's designation of war and relief,

[0:56:26] Voice 10: as minor works. And when we look at places like Ganges or Montague Harbours, at what level of

[0:56:36] Voice 9: concentration and numbers do mooring buoys collectively stop being minor works? So I've

[0:56:45] Voice 9: put in a request for the Ministry of Transport to consider an interagency meeting, of course,

[0:56:53] Voice 9: when it comes to these marine buoys um all levels from the federal right down

[0:57:00] Voice 10: to islands trust have

[0:57:01] Voice 10: some level of jurisdiction but it seems like uh you know an integrated approach and certainly at

[0:57:10] Voice 10: least at the very least um the various government agencies not acting at odds would be a good start

[0:57:16] Voice 10: to considering how um dealing with the concentration of buoys might be approached

[0:57:24] Voice 10: and so I think one of the more interesting sessions I attended there was led by a

[0:57:33] Voice 11: delicate

[0:57:34] Voice 11: elder Kathleen Johnny which is about plan garden restoration work that they've been doing and

[0:57:44] in

[0:57:44] Voice 9: conjunction with Parks Canada and

[0:57:47] Voice 11: very interesting work and certainly relevant to

[0:57:52] Voice 11: the themes of reconciliation as well and

[0:57:57] Voice 10: uh i guess the final thing is just to let everyone

[0:58:01] Voice 10: know that our march

[0:58:02] Voice 9: 7th meeting i will not be attending and that would be chaired by

[0:58:07] Voice 9: my alternate which is peter luck i'm the

[0:58:09] Voice 11: chair of trust council and so i'll move on then

[0:58:15] Voice 11: i don't see anyone from

[0:58:19] Voice 10: the crd here today so we're going to assume we have no crd directors

[0:58:24] Voice 10: directors report they

[0:58:25] Voice 11: have a meeting at the same time oh

[0:58:27] Voice 10: yes clever um so we have uh draft minutes

[0:58:34] Voice 10: of November 15th 2023 special meeting for adoption any concerns with those minutes starting on page

[0:58:43] Voice 11: 23 of the agenda nothing okay so I'll take

[0:58:57] Voice 10: it by general consent and then we'll adopt those

[0:58:59] Voice 10: minutes as presented and then next on page 35 we have the draft minutes of the

[0:59:05] Voice 10: December 14th regular

[0:59:07] Voice 11: meeting for adoption anything on those no I will

[0:59:12] Voice 10: then take it by a general consent will adopt those as presented and finally the

[0:59:17] Voice 10: draft minutes of the January 22nd 2024 special meeting and you know and I'll

[0:59:26] Voice 10: take it by consent those are adopted as presented and moving on through section

[0:59:33] Voice 10: Section 8, we have no resolution for the meeting report,

[0:59:37] Voice 10: nor minutes from the advisory and planning commissions or public hearing records.

[0:59:43] Voice 10: So that brings us right into correspondence.

[0:59:49] Voice 11: There's quite a number of pieces of correspondence here.

[0:59:53] Voice 11: And I think unless trustees would like to go through them one at a time.

[1:00:00] Voice 9: I think what

[1:00:00] Voice 10: I would suggest is that we just select chronologically the first one that we'd like to discuss.

[1:00:15] Voice 11: Yes, Trustee Patrick?

[1:00:21] Voice 11: The Minister of Finance, item 9.7.

[1:00:24] Voice 11: Okay.

[1:00:26] Voice 9: Page 68.

[1:00:27] Voice 9: Yeah.

[1:00:27] Voice 11: Yeah, no, we're looking at potentially responding to the minister's housing fund, but I'm wondering, I guess this is from the office of the minister, not the minister, but they say in their statement that they refer to Salt Spring as being primarily vacation, you know, rental or vacation island.

[1:00:54] Voice 11: when we have 82% of our population is permanent residents.

[1:00:59] Voice 11: So I, but they also identify a number of factors

[1:01:03] Voice 11: that go into consideration.

[1:01:06] Voice 11: And I just, I'm curious as to who collects

[1:01:10] Voice 11: that information, who determines that information

[1:01:12] Voice 11: and how do they determine that information?

[1:01:19] Voice 11: I'm just scratching my head when I look at Parksville

[1:01:22] Voice 11: being included in Salt Spring, not, you know,

[1:01:25] Voice 11: not being

[1:01:26] Voice 11: included um so i don't know if we now we can have that and the other piece that i guess

[1:01:37] Voice 11: i'll talk about a call of action list regarding the protocol agreement with crd

[1:01:42] Voice 11: is the crd and i would stress taking two different approaches um maybe this is a conversation

[1:01:51] Voice 11: to help hold with the crd first to get our act together in um in in this so maybe that's maybe

[1:01:59] Voice 11: that's the order that we should go in and maybe write a joint letter in response

[1:02:07] Voice 11: yeah okay thank you um and i certainly take your point that there's a lot of consistency there um

[1:02:21] Voice 10: so as far as that goes beyond discussion any suggested action for today did you want to

[1:02:28] Voice 10: off the part of well you know what they're saying here about how they

[1:02:34] were urban centers

[1:02:36] Voice 11: and you know i don't think there's talk about doing this here i'm still not

[1:02:41] Voice 11: sold um i don't see this having any real impact on our workforce ownership housing prices that

[1:02:49] Voice 11: we're facing this is you know what these people are renting some of these short-term

[1:02:53] Voice 11: that live and work here need a place to call their own i don't know where's random room

[1:03:00] Voice 11: from a short-term vacation

[1:03:03] Voice 7: spot so it may be

[1:03:14] Voice 11: housing units to be developed similar to what we've got going on in history

[1:03:19] Voice 11: and to be so okay i

[1:03:21] Voice 11: don't have anything

[1:03:22] Voice 11: that

[1:03:23] Voice 10: particular letter move on then to uh next one that was uh identified as a nine point three one

[1:03:33] Voice 10: on page 85, the letter from the Minister of Housing,

[1:03:38] Voice 11: I think there's probably a number

[1:03:44] Voice 11: of things there. Would you like to go first on this then?

[1:03:47] Voice 11: Sure. Well, one of the main things I see here, the decision was made to exempt

[1:03:52] Voice 11: the Amherst Trust from SS MUH requirements, which was a special mandate to preserve and

[1:03:59] Voice 11: protect the trust area. So I don't think they were aware that in September of last

[1:04:08] Voice 11: Last year, Trust Council recognized unique amenities and that they could include housing,

[1:04:15] Voice 11: livelihoods, and communities.

[1:04:17] Voice 11: I would love it if we could send a letter signing this reason as to why things emptied

[1:04:25] Voice 11: us and maybe to reconsider it after, you know, taking into consideration our definition of

[1:04:43] Voice 11: I understand there's some ideas there, but last term, we actually passed a resolution

[1:04:52] Voice 11: at the Dress Council saying that the Section 3 of the Act also improved the housing, so

[1:04:59] Voice 11: it's not new.

[1:05:01] Voice 11: But I think what's more relevant to respond to in this letter is the minister congratulates

[1:05:09] Voice 11: us basically on our all the work we've done with the housing action program i'm wondering if he's

[1:05:16] Voice 11: confusing salt spring solutions report of housing for islanders with our work because the only work

[1:05:25] Voice 11: that's been achieved from our housing action program is bylaw 526 which brought the agricultural

[1:05:31] Voice 11: cultural properties in alignment with the ALC.

[1:05:35] Voice 11: And we tweaked our resolution for managing illegal housing.

[1:05:44] Voice 11: And that was it.

[1:05:46] Voice 11: And so I'm wondering if the minister is congratulating us

[1:05:50] Voice 11: on not enforcing on illegal housing.

[1:05:53] Voice 11: And if that is

[1:05:55] Voice 11: what the minister feels is solving,

[1:05:58] Voice 11: is our big progress,

[1:06:00] Voice 11: I would say that's alarming that, you know, we as elected officials should not be relying on illegal housing as the only means of housing piloters.

[1:06:16] Voice 11: Yes, sir. If I could just add, and I'm not really too sure, I'm speculating here, but

[1:06:22] Voice 11: but how they seem to adopt the out-of-cash plan when we submitted the CMHC public self-sacrifice fund application.

[1:06:31] Voice 11: So they may be referring to that, but again, I'm just as confused as you all are, but I did want to point out the other two things.

[1:06:38] Voice 11: That's a federal program.

[1:06:39] Voice 11: Yeah, I guess what

[1:06:43] Voice 10: stood out for me is the sentence in the third paragraph.

[1:06:52] Voice 10: graphics as if the salt spring uh local trust committee believes it was in the best interest

[1:06:56] Voice 10: of their community to enable the

[1:06:58] Voice 10: sfm uh the salt spring ltc can update its zoning bylaw

[1:07:03] Voice 10: accordingly and follow the province's policy manual so to me that's suggesting that the

[1:07:08] Voice 9: minister is saying do your homework here and uh we'll talk

[1:07:13] Voice 11: uh or at least talk to us when

[1:07:16] Voice 11: you've done that that's sort of what it looks like to me and then of course in the

[1:07:20] Voice 11: in the final

[1:07:22] Voice 10: paragraph uh mentions that uh you know this would require additional consultation

[1:07:29] Voice 10: and policy work and understanding how to balance the need with housing with the

[1:07:35] Voice 10: stress mandate um i don't know if either well have you heard or considering any particular action but

[1:07:46] But to me, that line about updating the zoning by-law sort

[1:07:52] Voice 10: of looks to me as

[1:07:54] Voice 9: it's sort of the minister's suggestion

[1:07:58] Voice 9: if we want any further action on the SMUH, that that's what he's telling us to do.

[1:08:06] This

[1:08:06] Voice 11: sort of says to me, well, why on earth haven't we passed 530?

[1:08:14] Voice 11: I do believe there could be a rebuttable stating that we intend to dismiss what was done in

[1:08:25] Voice 11: September regarding Section 3 of the mandate and we clearly have come up with a pretty

[1:08:36] Voice 11: strong definition and also we have stated that the approach is supposed to be balanced

[1:08:46] Voice 11: but it could be um heavily weighted to one side or the other if there was a good reason

[1:08:52] Voice 11: clearly there's been an unbalanced approach from section three to the next day to the degree that

[1:08:59] Voice 11: we've got we have a full-blown housing crisis on our hands 20 years ago the analyst trust

[1:09:04] Voice 11: talked to my consultant from whistler um you know it's not like this is new news

[1:09:11] Voice 11: um so yeah this is so what so what i'm seeing here from what you're saying

[1:09:20] Voice 11: chair peterson is that if indeed you're saying this that we need to do

[1:09:25] Voice 11: something with you

[1:09:28] Voice 10: well that's that's the way i read that line in this in this letter is it's so with that

[1:09:34] Voice 10: it says if we

[1:09:35] Voice 10: if we want if we think it's in the interest to enable the ssmuh

[1:09:40] Voice 10: then we should update the zoning bylaw accordingly and follow the province's policy menu

[1:09:45] Voice 10: to me that seems so we could fairly

[1:09:47] Voice 11: essentially structure 530

[1:09:51] Voice 11: the province is going to back us. If

[1:09:53] Voice 11: VC doesn't, we take it to

[1:09:55] Voice 11: trust council. Because what we've

[1:09:57] got now, with

[1:09:58] Voice 11: the quote, silly

[1:09:59] Voice 11: idea, is we're

[1:10:02] wasting procedural time, we're wasting

[1:10:03] tax dollars, people are suffering,

[1:10:06] like the symptoms are

[1:10:07] fast to go

[1:10:08] Voice 11: into Ganges and hang

[1:10:09] Voice 11: out for a day.

[1:10:12] Voice 11: What we're doing is

[1:10:15] Voice 11: unsatisfactory.

[1:10:16] Voice 11: So I'd like to go ahead with this, Chair.

[1:10:19] Voice 11: I'd love to hear more

[1:10:20] Voice 11: ideas on it.

[1:10:25] Voice 11: I don't read that's exactly what I think the minister's mixed a lot of messages here.

[1:10:34] Voice 11: I think our response should be more specific to the legislation that's come out for one thing to

[1:10:49] Voice 11: say oh look you have to now use a standardized robust method to calculate the total housing

[1:10:56] Voice 11: needed over the next 20 years one what are we talking about housing needed on salt spring is

[1:11:02] Voice 11: this for retirees and second homeowners across canada to have access to the islands is that the

[1:11:07] Voice 11: type of people we're talking about or are we talking about healthy communities and who we're

[1:11:11] Voice 11: here so we haven't even seen the new robust method to calculate is it going to be relevant to our

[1:11:18] Voice 11: islands and then all other communities are supposed to use this robust method to calculate

[1:11:25] Voice 11: to then update your ocps but we're exempt from that so he's saying we can determine

[1:11:31] Voice 11: we have a housing crisis and then do nothing about it um you know so the regulations have these

[1:11:39] Voice 11: yin's and yang's that are not working for our islands and i think the message more is

[1:11:43] Voice 11: is we need solutions that work for our islands.

[1:11:46] Voice 11: And they said they were providing housing,

[1:11:49] Voice 11: or they were gonna help every community in BC.

[1:11:53] Voice 11: Those were their words on their websites.

[1:11:58] Voice 11: Did they really intend to say, except Salisbury?

[1:12:03] Voice 11: And they also say we're like all the other Gulf islands.

[1:12:06] Voice 11: And I think we need to differentiate.

[1:12:07] Voice 11: Are we like all the other Gulf islands?

[1:12:10] Voice 11: We have a population of 12,000 people.

[1:12:15] Voice 11: So, I absolutely agree we should respond to this, but I think we should either invite

[1:12:23] Voice 11: to a meeting.

[1:12:24] Voice 11: They need to realize that the regulations that they've created, well, like I said, they're

[1:12:29] Voice 11: not treating us as a community of D.C.

[1:12:34] Voice 11: Are we?

[1:12:35] Voice 11: We're not.

[1:12:37] Voice 11: Say so.

[1:12:38] Voice 11: Well, let's write them a letter, a strongly worded letter, and then let's take action

[1:12:46] Voice 11: here at the ltc and create a zone that's needed we can define that let's get some zoning for workforce

[1:12:53] Voice 11: ownership housing projects be able to be an issue so just the housing portion can be ocp quickly

[1:13:02] Voice 11: not in a giant ocp then it's going to take the cost before the end of the term we can do stuff

[1:13:06] Voice 11: now i've been screaming this since the beginning of the term and now we're bringing all these

[1:13:13] Voice 11: people are going to lose out on this 3 000 bucks for adus we could have all been included in this

[1:13:19] Voice 11: not to mention the existing legal non-conforming uh existing non-conforming uh units that are open

[1:13:27] Voice 11: so elated those folks are so elated that will violate 530 because they don't want to be looking

[1:13:32] over their shoulders and uh and not feeling secure in their homes like

[1:13:36] Voice 11: this this 537 is not

[1:13:38] Voice 11: helping that those things it speaks volumes and and we need to respond strongly all right well uh

[1:13:50] Voice 10: uh we do we do need a motion and and i think it would be helpful uh probably to get some

[1:14:00] um at

[1:14:01] Voice 11: least some points to start with of course maybe uh seems like it'd be uh uh uh worthy of

[1:14:12] Voice 11: maybe running individually by the members of the committee um to make

[1:14:17] Voice 10: sure everyone's got their

[1:14:19] Voice 10: thoughts in there so but yes a motion to uh to respond to the letter is certainly the way to

[1:14:26] Voice 11: start i appreciate the idea of writing a letter you know but i you want to just caution you like

[1:14:39] Voice 11: i just put this in context the overall message here is the province is recognizing the housing

[1:14:44] Voice 11: issue across the province and stepping in and sort of taking control a little bit from elected

[1:14:49] Voice 11: officials council and say we're going to we're going to change some of the things you do

[1:14:58] Voice 11: in that context they you know communities haven't necessarily been fully engaged on this process

[1:15:06] and many are sort of pushing in the other direction they they haven't considered all

[1:15:10] the factors here is the is the request here to go back to the problem and say think about

[1:15:16] salt spring island specifically uh not just as you know one community in a category of

[1:15:22] the island's trust or is

[1:15:25] Voice 11: it to and come up with an idea for us or to come like consider salt

[1:15:30] spring's unique needs and

[1:15:32] Voice 11: actually do what you're doing there in the province and step in and

[1:15:36] Voice 11: provide some kind of you know directive for us or is it is there a desire to

[1:15:43] Voice 11: you have a specific ask and if it's a specific act i would ask this there's a need here to either

[1:15:50] all come to an agreement or ask the chair to sort of lead that process in crafting

[1:15:55] Voice 11: that letter so

[1:15:56] Voice 11: there's a few ways you can go about this that bear consideration as you're moving towards this

[1:16:00] Voice 11: decision could we ask for a couple or a few different outcomes rebuttable letter and then

[1:16:06] Voice 11: you know ask for possibly for them to reconsider or if we were going to draft something could we

[1:16:13] Voice 11: expect uh support from them when it comes time for executive committee to bring something to them is

[1:16:19] Voice 11: that something it's something that i think bears discussion with the ltc but i just kind of wanted

[1:16:26] Voice 11: to set the statement i'm certainly happy to let you all discuss that question sure uh trustee

[1:16:33] Voice 11: patrick actually toby elliott trustee elliott and i worked on a draft of a letter from press

[1:16:40] Voice 11: council that never got past the trust council from September and what we were asking specifically was

[1:16:48] Voice 11: that we need solutions that work to the again we pointed out that their their essence of this

[1:16:54] Voice 11: legislation is very clear that it said that it was to support a diversity of options for homeowners

[1:17:00] Voice 11: renters newcomers and developers in every community in D.C. supporting families seniors and young

[1:17:05] Voice 11: people to stay in their own communities and so you know we we have those same challenges yet

[1:17:12] Voice 11: everything that they've developed was developed for urban communities only but when delivering

[1:17:18] Voice 11: housing and rural communities we have additional challenges and trusts and lack the regulatory

[1:17:23] Voice 11: tools we were specifically asking here they need to consider other solutions you know like the like

[1:17:31] Voice 11: the health act is still we need alternatives for forcing toilets and rainwater catchment

[1:17:35] Voice 11: flaming water uh you know we need the we need the water supply and actually

[1:17:40] Voice 11: having more connections to wells and so there's a lot of other pieces of legislation that's limiting

[1:17:47] Voice 11: what we could do um so i think we need them to recognize our island communities and the

[1:17:54] Voice 11: the unique challenges we have and that we're a community of bc yeah

[1:18:00] Voice 10: i think to add to your list

[1:18:01] Voice 10: i would say there's also the building codes restrictions around uh

[1:18:05] Voice 9: tiny tiny homes on wheels

[1:18:08] Voice 9: that is also part of the problem there there's there you're right there's a there's a number of

[1:18:13] Voice 9: different aspects

[1:18:15] Voice 10: i mean i understand the minister uh you know you know sort of a cautious approach

[1:18:24] Voice 10: in terms of the island's trust with the mandate but some recognition that the issues on Salt

[1:18:32] Spring in terms of population and the housing crisis here are quite a bit

[1:18:40] Voice 10: different I think

[1:18:41] Voice 10: than most islands in the island's trust and perhaps require a little bit more specific

[1:18:48] Voice 10: specific attention from the ministry. The other thing that occurs to me is in terms of

[1:18:59] Voice 10: housing on Salt Spring.

[1:19:03] Voice 9: There's a number of projects that are essentially

[1:19:09] Voice 9: stalled or in limbo. How could the ministry help get those things started, whether it's with funding

[1:19:17] Voice 9: or I know the one is looking at water being an issue.

[1:19:24] Voice 9: So there's a lot of

[1:19:25] Voice 10: different things that could be,

[1:19:29] Voice 10: the province could be assistive in.

[1:19:34] Voice 9: In fact, there's more than one ministry here.

[1:19:37] Voice 9: Maybe the Ministry of Housing's approach could be to help coordinate

[1:19:42] Voice 9: with those other ministries in terms of the sort of broad

[1:19:46] Voice 10: range of issues

[1:19:47] Voice 10: that are affecting this province here.

[1:19:50] Voice 11: Well, in the letter, there's something said along the lines

[1:19:54] Voice 11: of clearly the issues facing Salisbury are far too great

[1:19:59] Voice 11: for the Islands Trust to figure out.

[1:20:03] Voice 11: And unfortunately, we're not a municipality,

[1:20:05] Voice 11: we do not have a council, we can't.

[1:20:09] Voice 11: The regional district and the Islands Trust have failed.

[1:20:13] And the problems that we have now because of that failure

[1:20:16] are far too big for those same two governmental bodies

[1:20:19] Voice 11: to fix should we be asking the province to appoint an administrator that's a pretty big step and i'm

[1:20:28] Voice 11: not sure um

[1:20:29] Voice 10: i mean i think we'd want to look at the implications of that but i think what

[1:20:34] Voice 10: i think what it's worth drawing the minister's attention to is that i mean i understand why

[1:20:42] Voice 10: islands trust uh is exempted from a lot of this legislation because it's simple and easy for them

[1:20:48] Voice 10: to do it now when they do that what they haven't done is provide you know except for in very

[1:20:57] Voice 10: limited circumstance sort of provide a way for an island like salt spring to to appeal to be

[1:21:06] Voice 10: have more of the stuff applicable i mean other than the principal um the principal residence

[1:21:12] Voice 10: requirement for short-term vacation rentals there's no other opt-in clauses in in all of this

[1:21:19] Voice 10: this legislation that's coming down.

[1:21:21] Voice 10: And when we look at some of the,

[1:21:25] Voice 10: the ones

[1:21:26] Voice 7: when we look

[1:21:26] Voice 10: at some of the SSMUH,

[1:21:36] Voice 10: there is trouble with the province in a general way

[1:21:43] Voice 10: at just deciding that this is the approach

[1:21:46] Voice 10: they're gonna take for all of Islands Trust

[1:21:48] Voice 10: trust when in fact Saltsburg being the most populous and more populous than other municipalities

[1:21:57] Voice 10: that are being included in these programs. And I think that's, to me, that's sort of

[1:22:01] Voice 10: a big part of the problem. I understand that the ministry doesn't want to, or the province

[1:22:07] Voice 10: doesn't want to radically change everything over all of the islands and the islands trust,

[1:22:12] Voice 10: and I think it's probably appropriate for them to take a cautious approach.

[1:22:16] Voice 10: well they don't understand but but when they exempt all of islands trust um they're unfortunately

[1:22:24] Voice 10: you know they're they're disadvantaging salt to bring in a way that other

[1:22:30] Voice 10: communities are not being disadvantaged don't bring to

[1:22:34] Voice 11: be exempt not the rest

[1:22:37] Voice 11: well yeah and further they're they're not aware of the governance they don't know that

[1:22:44] Voice 11: what's even happening downstairs we haven't sent the letter back there's all these things

[1:22:48] Voice 11: sometimes one ministry doesn't talk to the other very well trust Patrick well there's also the

[1:22:55] Voice 11: unintended thing or maybe intended we don't know uh the consequences of of these new housing

[1:23:02] Voice 11: actions that actually with all the surrounding communities densifying we're becoming sort of

[1:23:08] Voice 11: the last bastion of single-family homes in the region like with a big arrow pointing move here

[1:23:13] Voice 11: wealthy people. So it's almost increasing or accelerating the gentrification that we're going

[1:23:21] Voice 11: to experience. And I don't think the province took that into consideration. So there's a number

[1:23:26] Voice 11: of things. I think they just didn't take us into consideration. We are tiny, but we're affected

[1:23:31] Voice 11: greatly. And we need to find a way to have that conversation with the province in a meaningful way

[1:23:39] Voice 11: to find the appropriate solutions and we're not saying build more housing irresponsibly

[1:23:46] Voice 11: we're saying build housing for the community members that this island needs to remain healthy

[1:23:54] Voice 11: yeah appropriate to the needs of the community and we haven't taken that into consideration

[1:23:59] in 20 years the island's trust has known that need to look at all types of housing especially

[1:24:07] We can

[1:24:09] Voice 11: be doing that. We can take zoning classifications and put on an added zoning for workforce ownership housing projects like other jurisdictions to be controlled by a housing authority.

[1:24:26] This isn't rocket science or some new crazy idea. It goes on in jurisdictions like Whistler, Topeno, Cowichan.

[1:24:35] it's something we can do we don't create the housing authority we

[1:24:38] Voice 11: just create the zoning

[1:24:39] Voice 11: we need the zoning for a healthy sustainable thriving community we need families that can

[1:24:46] have a house that they

[1:24:47] Voice 11: own and maybe they can have a family long-term security not

[1:24:51] Voice 11: gypsy caravans on wheels if somebody wants to do that fine fly at it but that's not what we

[1:24:56] Voice 11: need to be focusing on there has to be this workforce ownership housing model it's it's

[1:25:04] been told to us

[1:25:04] Voice 11: again i've been screaming at least since the beginning of this and for some reason

[1:25:09] Voice 11: i've swallowed deaf ears i feel

[1:25:12] Voice 10: a little bit i'd like to bring us back to the potential response

[1:25:17] to the letter uh minister if i might um and

[1:25:24] Voice 10: uh so i think if we if we want to write a letter of

[1:25:29] response we definitely need a resolution to do so and then as far as the specific items in the letter

[1:25:37] um i i think we've discussed some and i'd look to staff on on how much more you know specific

[1:25:46] direction in a resolution you want but uh i think

[1:25:51] Voice 10: if we're going to respond let's let's uh

[1:25:54] Voice 11: let's get

[1:25:55] Voice 10: a resolution on the table

[1:25:57] Voice 11: regardless of

[1:25:58] Voice 11: the letter draft

[1:26:00] Voice 11: I'm going to be

[1:26:01] Voice 11: with some

[1:26:05] Voice 11: awareness that typically

[1:26:07] Voice 11: the procedure should be that these

[1:26:08] matters of trust

[1:26:10] council and forward it on

[1:26:12] to a minister

[1:26:15] that is actually the letter writing protocol

[1:26:16] so

[1:26:18] Voice 11: I

[1:26:21] Voice 11: just advise you of that but I don't really

[1:26:23] Voice 11: I feel like you maybe don't trust council is not exactly the body to help with the Salt

[1:26:32] Voice 11: Spring thing here.

[1:26:33] Voice 11: We're talking very much about Salt Spring.

[1:26:36] That being said, the name of the letter, LTC should request that the chair draft the letter

[1:26:42] obviously staff will provide support and help and work under your direction to prepare that

[1:26:48] for your signature.

[1:27:01] Voice 11: to draft a letter that captures this conversation together on that that all sounds great um but i

[1:27:11] definitely want the otc to vote on it because i think there's important things to be said here

[1:27:17] or something by email i don't know if that's been allowed well i i think we can work i think what

[1:27:23] what the bridge planning manager is suggesting is that you know if we are saying the resolution says

[1:27:32] that the um a letter uh from the chair

[1:27:36] Voice 10: then i would certainly uh undertake to work with both

[1:27:41] Voice 10: of the trustees as well as staff to to make sure that what we're sending in is is you know follows

[1:27:47] Voice 10: the intent um i think in terms as long as there's not um as long as there's not strong disagreement

[1:27:57] Voice 10: about the content um then i don't think we have to i think we could do that by an email i think

[1:28:05] Voice 10: if there's if there are any issues that need further discussion when we're out in the drafting

[1:28:09] Voice 10: then we would have to have a special meeting to to go through that but where there's general

[1:28:14] Voice 10: I think we can we can do some back and forth by email, I think, you know, we're going to

[1:28:19] Voice 10: also share

[1:28:20] Voice 11: that we do have a situation where we have another LPC meeting in three weeks

[1:28:24] recognizing that they won't present personally.

[1:28:27] Yeah.

[1:28:27] However, it said there's a need to discuss it further.

[1:28:30] There's

[1:28:31] Voice 11: a there is another meeting happening.

[1:28:32] Voice 11: There's a short order.

[1:28:34] Voice 11: Right.

[1:28:36] Voice 11: Good point.

[1:28:37] Voice 11: Trustee Cashin.

[1:28:38] Voice 11: I believe strongly that this is this is a conversation between Salt Spring local press

[1:28:44] Voice 11: committee and the minister of housing so whatever you know

[1:28:47] Voice 11: islands trust our trust council has been

[1:28:50] Voice 11: incapable of getting a letter to the minister since its motion it made in september um

[1:28:56] Voice 11: ravi kalin

[1:28:57] Voice 11: himself at ucf especially in regards to speculation of agency tax was very clear in

[1:29:02] Voice 11: his instructions he wanted the letter from this body um that's what he asked but not trust

[1:29:08] Voice 11: counsel he said from the local trust committee so i

[1:29:10] Voice 12: think they understand the differences between

[1:29:11] Voice 11: between our groups.

[1:29:13] Voice 11: And I think Salt Spring needs to be a bit more aggressive

[1:29:16] Voice 11: in its communications,

[1:29:17] Voice 11: because the minister is just not paying attention to us.

[1:29:22] Voice 11: And I know the problems are severe

[1:29:24] Voice 11: across the entire province,

[1:29:25] Voice 11: but we're a community in BC, we need to feel like it.

[1:29:31] Voice 11: So I'm actually doing a motion.

[1:29:33] Voice 11: I don't know, do you have one dreamed up?

[1:29:36] Voice 3: At the beginning here,

[1:29:38] Voice 3: that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee

[1:29:40] Voice 3: request chair peterson to respond to minister of housing letter dated january 8 2024 regarding

[1:29:45] Voice 3: housing statutes amendment act 2023 bill 44.

[1:29:49] Voice 12: and well

[1:29:57] Voice 10: that sounds good

[1:30:00] Voice 10: And if trustees are willing to sort of take my expressed intent that I will work back and forth with you, you know, yes, to try and get some consensus.

[1:30:14] Voice 10: If we do run into, you know, something that one trustee strongly objects to being in there and the other one strongly wants that, as the planning manager said, there could be further discussion in the next meeting.

[1:30:26] Voice 10: but we can see what we can do um about that i think that that to me that motion would

[1:30:34] Voice 10: would get us

[1:30:34] Voice 11: started on that process so shall i make that question please do

[1:30:38] Voice 11: it i know that

[1:30:39] Voice 11: the salesman and local trust video request here petersburg respond to minister of housing letter

[1:30:44] Voice 11: dated january 8 2024 regarding housing statutes amendment act 2023 so

[1:30:52] Voice 10: moved seconded uh further

[1:30:54] Voice 10: the discussion no i will call the question all those in favor and that motion carries um so

[1:31:02] Voice 10: finally in correspondence um there is the uh letter regarding secretary's sweet incentive

[1:31:12] Voice 10: program i noticed there's also a member of the public uh letter discussing that now in terms of

[1:31:21] Voice 11: the crd uh um

[1:31:29] Voice 10: inclusion i i wonder if there

[1:31:32] Voice 9: it sounds like there's a bit of confusion in the

[1:31:35] Voice 9: public about eligibility of

[1:31:37] Voice 11: salt spring um to the secondary suite incentive program maybe just ask

[1:31:45] Voice 11: the staff or clarify your your current understanding there's a bit of confusion

[1:31:51] Voice 11: surrounding the

[1:31:52] Voice 10: secondary suite incentive program

[1:31:56] Voice 11: okay yeah so what is the this is

[1:32:02] Voice 11: regarding the correspondence around well

[1:32:04] Voice 10: it's just because it's in the correspondence and

[1:32:06] Voice 10: there is there is a letter from um from the minister of housing and then i noticed there's

[1:32:12] Voice 10: also a letter from a uh chandler as well okay

[1:32:18] Voice 9: and it just because i just since we're in a public

[1:32:21] Voice 9: forum i thought it would be good to just get staff's understanding about the sure so

[1:32:26] Voice 9: we

[1:32:26] Voice 11: have right now um a large quite a large number of properties zoned for secondary suites

[1:32:36] Voice 11: uh we also have a number that are zoned for um full-time uh cottages

[1:32:44] Voice 11: essentially some some have them so there's there's quite a number of students available

[1:32:57] Voice 11: What seems to be driving a lack of a perception of a lack of opportunity in the bylaw 537

[1:33:04] Voice 11: or bylaw 534.

[1:33:05] Voice 11: A formal description of an accessory development unit hasn't been adopted in the plan to

[1:33:13] file off with the property adopted and that's the outstanding proposed bylaw 537 would address

[1:33:20] that.

[1:33:21] it adds about 100 change properties. However, the estimate right now is that we've got about

[1:33:29] 1,500 in the southern unit that would qualify as a program,

[1:33:32] Voice 11: as well as 300 in the agricultural

[1:33:34] Voice 11: land. That's pretty much the root of the public confusion, I think, but there's obvious things

[1:33:44] Voice 11: that's out of what about 4 000 lots on the island right now or 6 000 so um i don't remember right

[1:33:53] now but it is not everybody so that is the case fortunately it's a rural island so there is going

[1:34:00] to

[1:34:01] Voice 11: be a number of properties that simply don't are not going to enable that okay thank you for that

[1:34:10] Voice 11: hopefully any members

[1:34:11] Voice 10: of the public uh understand better based on that so is there anything else in

[1:34:17] Voice 10: correspondence or should we move on to section 10. all right not seeing anything else so

[1:34:26] Voice 11: um on page 139 we have the follow-up action list and i'll look to stop to see if there's any

[1:34:33] Voice 11: updates you'd like to provide at this time no follow-up on the follow-up action list

[1:34:42] Voice 11: okay and any questions from trustees trustee patrick yeah i wanted to follow up on

[1:34:51] Voice 11: um we've got an out uh kind of a long item in the follow-up action list regarding

[1:34:58] Voice 11: redirected staff to work on looking at the protocol agreement between the crd and the

[1:35:04] Voice 11: items trust i know staff have initiated some conversations but i think we need to

[1:35:08] Voice 11: raise this to the political level um and take something and kind of get a political meeting

[1:35:14] Voice 11: on this uh on this topic because um i don't think we are cooperating as bodies as we should

[1:35:23] Voice 11: so the example would be the speculation of vacancy tax conversation taking two separate approaches

[1:35:30] Voice 11: actually having it mentioned on the floor of the ledge that we had taken two approaches and that

[1:35:35] Voice 11: was the reason why we expanded so i think uh it's important that we have a meeting i have drafted

[1:35:41] Voice 11: a resolution to share it with sarah just put it on the table i did um i have added a few more items

[1:35:50] Voice 11: i don't know if it helps to add some additional details or you should just put those details on

[1:35:57] Voice 11: the agenda um items items that i think we could talk about with them would be

[1:36:06] Voice 11: opportunities to improve cooperation in community planning, legislative advocacy initiatives.

[1:36:14] Voice 11: There's also the environmental action and service boundaries, business licenses.

[1:36:22] Voice 11: So as a member of the radio earlier, there's now that they've got the capability of having business licenses.

[1:36:27] Voice 11: But those are items that I think would be worthy of having an

[1:36:33] Voice 11: initial agenda, if that makes sense. Do we need to have that level of detail or should we?

[1:36:43] Voice 11: I think that this is, it's probably not something that we're going to take away and get done in weeks.

[1:36:49] So I would maybe suggest that if we were directed to undertake this process, the process of forming an agenda with another government,

[1:36:58] Voice 11: it means that we're going to have essentially two agendas coming in two groups bringing it up

[1:37:06] Voice 11: together so i think we can we can start that and maybe just ask staff to report back

[1:37:12] Voice 11: uh on i think probably specifically on the formation of an agenda we can take that

[1:37:21] Voice 11: direction forward i will just say that we did with the original request we did explore this

[1:37:26] Voice 11: it was kind of on the eve of the LCC, but I think the intent at the time was to sort of

[1:37:32] build a relationship around that. There was kind of a sense that we should wait until the LCC was

[1:37:37] on its feet. It certainly is on its feet now. It likes the third walk, so it's probably time to

[1:37:45] start

[1:37:46] Voice 11: that. I appreciate the more refined direction. All right, I'm happy to entertain the

[1:37:53] Voice 11: motion my observation has been more of the electoral area directors direct activities

[1:37:58] Voice 11: with the board have been raised as you know my intention less so than what's coming to the lcc

[1:38:06] Voice 11: but anyway i will move that the salt spring on local trust committee request staff to

[1:38:12] Voice 11: schedule a meeting with the crd board chair territorial area directors for salt spring

[1:38:18] Voice 11: on the Southern Nile Islands and the Salt Lake Nile Local Trust Committee in accordance with the 1999 CRD-LTC protocol agreement

[1:38:28] Voice 11: to discuss opportunities to improve cooperation in community planning and legislative advocacy initiatives.

[1:38:36] Voice 11: So moved. Would you like to second that?

[1:38:43] Voice 11: Okay, well, I will second it. And do you want to speak to the motion?

[1:38:47] Voice 11: Well, yeah, I know I've mentioned to the electoral area directors Salt Spring and the Southern Gulf Islands, but just to remind people that the Salt Spring Boulevard Trust area includes islands that are located in the Southern Gulf Island electoral area.

[1:39:04] Voice 11: So we do have a legal relationship with both the electoral area directors.

[1:39:10] Voice 11: And I think sometimes a CRD forgets that.

[1:39:12] Voice 11: that. So I think this would just be good to get this elevated to a political meeting and get us

[1:39:22] Voice 11: talking about using the protocol agreement that's a little long in the tooth, but exists.

[1:39:32] Voice 10: Yeah, okay. Well, thank you. And I think I'm going to speak in support of the motion because I think

[1:39:41] Voice 10: that it's uh actually really important for the for the goals of uh salt spray that the

[1:39:49] Voice 10: the regional district representatives and the local trust committee are are speaking

[1:39:56] Voice 10: directly about these issues and uh and just as i mentioned in terms of the the mooring boy issues

[1:40:05] Voice 10: there earlier it's it's important that we're having these conversations

[1:40:09] Voice 10: conversations elected official to elected official so that um when no matter what the issue is we're

[1:40:16] Voice 10: not um we're not acting across purposes but we're actually acting in cooperation with and

[1:40:24] Voice 10: there's opportunity to both pool resources and and i think when it's uh depending on what it

[1:40:32] Voice 10: is we're looking for but if we're we're going to the province or if we're going to the federal

[1:40:36] Voice 10: of government uh having the local trust committee and the regional district representatives um

[1:40:43] Voice 10: acting in concert is much more effective than than acting uh separately so i think it's a good idea

[1:40:52] Voice 10: um we haven't had the we haven't although we've had the regional third you know one of the crd

[1:40:59] Voice 10: uh directors here um speaking with us different than having a meeting amongst ourselves to

[1:41:06] Voice 10: actually discuss the issues reporting is not the same as discussion so that's that's my thoughts

[1:41:12] Voice 10: anything from you sir okay uh so there's nothing further i'll call the question all those in favor

[1:41:20] Voice 10: and that carries unanimously um anything else on the follow-up action i just had a question about

[1:41:33] Voice 10: about, it's item two on page 141, and

[1:41:42] Voice 11: it's around

[1:41:46] Voice 10: the notice of motion

[1:41:46] Voice 11: about the equity

[1:41:52] Voice 10: and participation. And the question is just because we have a target date on the follow-up

[1:42:02] Voice 10: action list that's that's passed so i wonder if there's a anticipation of a new target date or

[1:42:11] Voice 10: or anything like that i'm just

[1:42:13] Voice 11: here the um and staff are welcoming any correction on this

[1:42:19] we've taken this to mean that by immediate action and give it the project load that we have before

[1:42:26] The way we act on this, so we've started that process with reaching the issue of RFP, including

[1:42:36] consideration of engagement standards that meet this, and intend to be talking more about

[1:42:45] the work plan for the OCP LUB and the development of an engagement strategy to incorporate the

[1:42:54] the higher level of equity in the engagement process.

[1:42:58] I will point out that the engagement,

[1:43:02] you know, the Beyond Inclusion documents

[1:43:04] and the International Association of Public Participation

[1:43:10] Voice 11: also speak often to the notion of engaging

[1:43:13] Voice 11: where we authentically need to,

[1:43:16] Voice 11: not necessarily to achieve the highest level of engagement

[1:43:20] simply for the sake of doing so.

[1:43:22] There are times when you can achieve a great deal of engagement and not generate great

[1:43:26] value.

[1:43:27] So we look to gather input and utilize people's time in a way that sort of feeds the project

[1:43:38] and provides input.

[1:43:41] Not necessarily the input that we want, but the input that we need to help us to fix it

[1:43:46] and understand other things.

[1:43:47] So that's kind of the goal and also

[1:43:50] Voice 11: acknowledging that this will be an evolving process.

[1:43:52] Voice 11: that we can't simply go from zero to 100 necessarily there's a there's going to be an

[1:43:59] Voice 11: evolutionary process in this we do to some extent feel just in that in that regard there was a

[1:44:05] Voice 11: desire to develop some type of a project or you know go out and tender or um i think that would

[1:44:13] be

[1:44:14] Voice 11: probably a bit of different okay thank you

[1:44:17] Voice 10: for that um uh as much as maybe i just when i when i

[1:44:21] Voice 10: see stuff that's not listed as completed and it has a target date that's passed i i just like to

[1:44:28] Voice 10: ask what's going on not that that's all from my perspective but thank you for the answer um so

[1:44:34] Voice 10: then let us move on to uh item 10.2 on page 150 um there's a staff memorandum on the special

[1:44:46] Voice 10: meeting schedule. Mr.

[1:44:53] Voice 11: Pingel are you leading this or? Certainly. I mean, it's pretty straightforward, which is your regulations require you to pass resolutions for special meetings that include the date, time and place of the meeting. So he's asked us to coordinate the agricultural alliance and AAPC meeting. It's been agreed that this is the date that I just need a resolution.

[1:45:24] Voice 11: and then last year we were speaking about our four in-person town hall meetings and

[1:45:30] I'm clear that that is to continue this year and so just a resolution if you choose to continue that

[1:45:38] that would allow me to begin the work without you know showing up and you being like oh we

[1:45:44] didn't want to do that again

[1:45:45] Voice 11: so just just asking clarity at the same time as asking for the

[1:45:49] Voice 11: resolution for the special meeting that's required okay thank you for that uh trustees any questions

[1:45:58] Voice 11: comments yes second time for february 27th it's easy in regard to the four town halls i

[1:46:06] Voice 11: absolutely uh agreed with building meetings you know having some meetings in the evenings where

[1:46:12] Voice 11: people were making themselves more accessible um to the public but i'm also waiting to see

[1:46:22] Voice 11: some of the engagement plans that are being coming forward for the community work and

[1:46:27] Voice 11: so forth, because I think there's an opportunity to coordinate the two things, to have more

[1:46:32] Voice 11: meaningful, not meaningful meetings, but purposeful meetings, would be a better word, to use those

[1:46:39] Voice 11: times to be collecting feedback and engaging in the conversations that are going to help

[1:46:43] Voice 11: these projects that we've got going under underway um the the other

[1:46:49] Voice 2: is one that we

[1:46:49] Voice 11: haven't you know

[1:46:50] Voice 11: if we meet with the crd and talk to them i would hope that um you know i know the lcc's out there

[1:46:56] Voice 11: having some evening meetings and we're out there having some evening meetings wouldn't it be cool

[1:46:59] Voice 11: if we had a meeting meeting of uh that coordinated all the

[1:47:04] Voice 11: bodies on the island i i think it's

[1:47:06] Voice 11: wonderful that staff are meeting quarterly um and i think that's probably yielding some beneficial

[1:47:12] Voice 11: There may be benefits for the elected on the island to meet in a coordinated fashion and

[1:47:19] Voice 11: face the public in a coordinated fashion, as long as they're polite to one another.

[1:47:26] Voice 11: It would be good practice.

[1:47:28] Voice 11: So I don't know if we have to set, but I think we should be cognizant of

[1:47:35] Voice 11: wanting to hold

[1:47:36] Voice 11: some meetings in the evenings, but to try to coordinate them with the other things and

[1:47:40] Voice 11: And that's hopefully like one of those meetings I would hope could be sort of coordinated by meeting once we get to the CRD to see if that's something they're interested in.

[1:47:51] Voice 11: All

[1:47:54] Voice 12: right, anything

[1:47:55] Voice 11: from you on this, Trustee Karras?

[1:47:58] Voice 11: Okay, I can make the answer.

[1:48:01] Voice 11: Yeah, I might understand that this would be like if you're still wanting to be former town hall this year.

[1:48:06] um the double apc

[1:48:11] Voice 11: and tag alliance meeting um and then there's then you'd like to do one of

[1:48:16] Voice 11: those down all the an opportunity to create more i i said i don't think we i don't think we i don't

[1:48:22] Voice 11: i don't feel we need to set that meeting to say we want four town halls i think

[1:48:26] Voice 11: i think we should have a new town hall attaching a number to it right now i think it's preliminary

[1:48:35] Voice 11: I'd like to see the engagement process from these projects that we're planning to see

[1:48:39] Voice 11: if there's potential to bring the two together would be what I would hope so that, like I

[1:48:45] Voice 11: said, with the time.

[1:48:50] Voice 11: So just saying.

[1:48:55] Voice 11: I don't know what the engagement program is going to suggest.

[1:48:59] Voice 11: Things have changed from last year, that's why I was checking in.

[1:49:03] Voice 11: I agree that there's potential for a lot of meetings as these projects.

[1:49:07] Voice 7: correct start

[1:49:08] Voice 11: wrapping up whereas the last three meetings were the get to know you we're new

[1:49:13] trustees

[1:49:14] Voice 11: um and we are getting our projects ranked up we want to hear from the public so

[1:49:19] Voice 11: it seems reasonable to to not pass the second motion with an understanding that you know in

[1:49:27] march or you know in the near future we will be showing up with a number of special meeting

[1:49:33] requests related to projects yes um but i just wanted to be clear because it's it

[1:49:39] Voice 11: because the

[1:49:40] Voice 11: opportunity presented itself with the need for the resolution for the february 27th i think that was

[1:49:47] Voice 11: the slam dunk that allowed for a competition oh good thank you for trying to make the moment

[1:49:52] Voice 11: although that's all spring on a local trust committee request staff to schedule an electronic

[1:49:55] Voice 11: special meeting for 5 p.m on tuesday february 27th 2021. what do we should we say with the

[1:50:01] Voice 11: agricultural should that be referenced in there no the intent is not required okay uh so moved

[1:50:08] Voice 11: uh do you have a seconder i'll second for discussion okay and uh the second discussion

[1:50:15] Voice 11: yes so the ag loyals were we going to have an in-person meeting with them it would be electronic

[1:50:23] we're going to be in person it was always intended to be

[1:50:28] Voice 11: electronic because of the ability to

[1:50:32] Voice 11: it to have such a large number of sort of delegates participate um with you know bearing in

[1:50:39] Voice 11: mind the chairs travel requirements to attend an in-person meeting we thought and in conversation

[1:50:46] with

[1:50:46] Voice 11: uh the double abc and the ag alliance they they were happy to have it electronic because

[1:50:53] Voice 11: they felt they would be able to get more people at five o'clock from home rather than trying to get

[1:50:59] to a meeting venue

[1:51:00] Voice 11: thank you just patrick well this is continuation of the meetings we had last

[1:51:06] Voice 11: term and they are all yeah i mean that's better hope it got in there so i i do agree it is they

[1:51:15] Voice 11: they are happy with those meetings and so happy to continue them on as electronic all right uh

[1:51:21] Voice 10: anything further on this or shall we call the question all those in

[1:51:26] Voice 10: favor any opposed

[1:51:29] Voice 11: closed, motion carried. And it's 11.24.

[1:51:36] Voice 10: I think that we should recess till noon because

[1:51:44] Voice 10: the applications are coming up after noon and those applicants may expect to either

[1:51:54] Voice 10: either tune in or show up.

[1:51:55] Voice 10: So let's recess till noon.

[2:28:09] Voice 11: to call the meeting back to order here. So we're at section 13 applications and referrals.

[2:28:21] Voice 11: The first one is a development verdict permit of B. Taylor on page 151. It's coming from Anthony

[2:28:35] Voice 10: Fettino, a planner. Is he joining us online today? Yes, he is. Great. Please go ahead, sir.

[2:28:40] Voice 10: Good

[2:28:41] Voice 2: afternoon, Chair and trustees. Today we will be discussing application SSDVP 2023.5.

[2:28:49] Voice 2: which is for 250 Collins Road.

[2:28:52] Voice 2: This report brings forward a variance to vary section 9.11.2,

[2:28:58] Voice 2: subsection 1 of the Salt Spring Island Land Use Bylaw,

[2:29:02] Voice 2: which restricts the maximum dock area in the Essex zone to 35 square meters.

[2:29:08] Voice 2: Specifically, the LUB states that the maximum area of individual floats

[2:29:14] Voice 2: and the maximum combined area of floats that form part of a dock

[2:29:17] Voice 2: dock used for individual private moorage or wharfage accessory to a permitted use on the

[2:29:23] Voice 2: adjacent upland is a maximum of 35 square meters. And for this application, the applicant is seeking

[2:29:30] Voice 2: a variance to allow for the existing dock to be 73 square meters. As a bit of a background,

[2:29:37] Voice 2: the application was actually initiated in 2015 as application SSDP 2015.1,

[2:29:44] Voice 2: And the application sought to permit the construction of a dock, float, and ramp adjacent to the waterfront.

[2:29:51] Voice 2: The development permit was actually approved and the dock was built.

[2:29:55] Voice 2: However, the permit lapsed because the applicant didn't complete the...

[2:30:00] Voice 2: associated subdivision application, there was a little bit of misunderstanding and

[2:30:04] Voice 2: miscommunication, and this was a condition to build the doc. The development permit application

[2:30:12] Voice 2: and the subdivision file were officially closed, and new subdivision SS sub 2022.1 and development

[2:30:20] Voice 2: permit SSDP 2023.7 files were open to satisfy the policy requirements and complete the proposed

[2:30:27] Voice 2: post subdivision. And that is a delegated DP that is currently being assessed by staff.

[2:30:36] Voice 2: During staff's review of the development permit, it was concluded that a development variance permit

[2:30:41] Voice 2: would be required for the oversized dock. The applicant was notified and the DVP application

[2:30:46] Voice 2: was opened. The applicant provided some rationale for the variance, which is attached

[2:30:53] Voice 2: attached as attachment three, but the applicant submitted the letter of rationale,

[2:30:58] Voice 2: which provided the reason for the variance request. The applicant indicated that the

[2:31:04] Voice 2: covenant on the land was registered against the upland property and restricts the number of docks

[2:31:09] Voice 2: to one, and the restriction will continue after filing a bare land strata plan that three strata

[2:31:16] Voice 2: lots will be restricted to the single dock. Additionally, the applicant cited policy E

[2:31:23] Voice 2: E.3.4.20 of the Salt Spring Island Official Community Plan,

[2:31:27] Voice 2: which states residential docks should not extend from shore

[2:31:30] Voice 2: any further than necessary to accommodate a small pleasure craft.

[2:31:35] Voice 2: Residential docks should not accommodate boats

[2:31:36] Voice 2: with a drift greater than 2.2 meters

[2:31:39] Voice 2: or have floats more than 35 meters squared total surface area

[2:31:43] Voice 2: unless more than two parcels have legal access to the dock.

[2:31:48] Voice 2: Given that the existing dock will provide access

[2:31:52] Voice 2: access to three strata lots, the proposed increase in dock area would be consistent with the OCP.

[2:31:57] Voice 2: And given that the dock is already existing, we can determine if there are any negative

[2:32:01] Voice 2: impacts associated with the increased floor area. Material provided with the associated

[2:32:07] Voice 2: development permit application included 2013 report and survey analysis from SeaChange Marine

[2:32:13] Voice 2: Consulting, and further addendums were provided with this. So these materials were used in the

[2:32:21] Voice 2: this DVP application as well. Based on the original 2014 report and the subsequent memo

[2:32:28] Voice 2: from the QEP, staff accept the report satisfies reporting requirements and that increasing the

[2:32:32] Voice 2: maximum floor area of the dock will not create negative impacts. Moreover, the fact that the

[2:32:37] Voice 2: variance is supported by the OCP policies, it strengthens the case that the variance should

[2:32:43] Voice 2: should be approved. The rationale for recommendation is based on the following factors.

[2:32:50] Voice 2: The requested variance is not anticipated to pose a negative impact on the surrounding area.

[2:32:55] Voice 2: Materials from the QEP indicate the dock is appropriate and shows no negative impacts,

[2:33:00] Voice 2: and OCP policy supports larger docks when two or more parcels share legal access to the dock.

[2:33:06] Voice 2: All

[2:33:11] Voice 9: right, and is the applicant joining us today?

[2:33:13] Voice 9: Yes,

[2:33:14] Voice 2: the Brent Taylor from Polaris Land Surveying should be there with you in person.

[2:33:20] Voice 9: Do you have anything to add, sir?

[2:33:22] Voice 11: Just a little bit.

[2:33:23] Voice 11: I bring you greetings from the landowners, which is Andrew and Diana Benedet.

[2:33:28] Voice 11: And I just wanted to add that the three-lot bareland strata that you know is mentioned is in process.

[2:33:37] Voice 11: It's been in process since 2012, actually, but keeps hitting challenges along the way.

[2:33:44] Voice 11: But they're process challenges, they're not actually technical challenges.

[2:33:48] Voice 11: The current challenge is the approving officer chose to require us to do an archaeological assessment.

[2:33:59] Voice 11: So we've done the desktop study back in 2012, I think it was, and now they want us to do the full AIA, which is fine.

[2:34:08] Voice 11: But that requires getting a permit from the regional province.

[2:34:13] Voice 11: That's a six to 12 month process just to get the permit.

[2:34:16] Voice 11: So that's in process and we're anticipating getting the archaeological study done within the next six months,

[2:34:24] Voice 11: in which case the approving officer will be in a position to move forward on the airline strata application.

[2:34:32] Voice 11: I just wanted to give you an update on where we're at that way.

[2:34:34] Voice 11: the whole intent of the that's been there for 12 years is to create free bear land

[2:34:39] Voice 11: childhood and everything's all done the geotechnical studies are done the wells are

[2:34:45] Voice 11: drilled uh it's just a matter of going to these last week any questions and happy to answer

[2:34:52] Voice 11: questions for the representative or planner no questions but uh thank you for the planner

[2:34:59] Voice 11: a particular program their job that continued job uh well done i have a burden of emotion

[2:35:08] Voice 11: dusty and patrick so i i kind of understand what that the intent is to complete the strata

[2:35:20] Voice 11: um so but the doc was just built first under the original development permit um what if the strata

[2:35:28] Voice 11: doesn't complete for some reason then there's an oversized dock that's permitted is that right um

[2:35:40] Voice 11: there's certainly nothing in that i'm aware of that would prevent it from not completing

[2:35:46] Voice 11: and certainly the landowners are fully desirable to go there we've had a plr for about two or

[2:35:54] Voice 11: three years the delays have always just been circumstance i can spend half an hour telling

[2:36:02] Voice 11: you all the circumstances that you want but it just might be discreet and not go down that's

[2:36:06] Voice 11: it's not always the island stress that's slow is what you're saying that's true thank you

[2:36:13] Voice 11: okay and it's it's really estate planning more than market driven it's this family has a number

[2:36:20] Voice 11: of children they want to take this person to divide into three so that the state can be

[2:36:28] Voice 11: addressed and it can be a family retrieval case thank

[2:36:33] Voice 12: you yeah

[2:36:34] Voice 11: that sort of was a similar i had

[2:36:37] Voice 11: a similar question which is about uh advancing

[2:36:41] Voice 10: this in the absence

[2:36:43] Voice 11: of the final approval of

[2:36:45] Voice 11: this traffic but uh staff have any comment from that no oh you don't have anything there

[2:36:54] Voice 11: all right how would you like to proceed

[2:37:00] moved

[2:37:01] Voice 10: seconded any further discussion no seeing any i'll call the question all in favor oh sorry

[2:37:15] Voice 11: Through the

[2:37:17] Voice 2: chair, sorry. I just thought I would bring this up. And Rob Pingel can also speak to this. There was a process issue that we had. There is a ITC property that does abut the actual land property here.

[2:37:37] Voice 2: and the ITC should have had a referral sent to them

[2:37:41] Voice 2: and they weren't.

[2:37:43] Voice 2: So if it is in the opinion of the local trust committee

[2:37:48] Voice 2: that the ITC should complete that referral,

[2:37:54] Voice 2: we may have to put this off until the March meeting.

[2:37:59] Voice 2: But I believe the process is if the LTC would like

[2:38:04] Voice 2: to go forward with approving it,

[2:38:06] Voice 2: that they can waive the referral to ITC.

[2:38:10] Voice 9: Thank you for that information.

[2:38:12] Voice 11: Judge Patrick?

[2:38:15] Voice 11: I mean, I had nice information about it a minute ago,

[2:38:20] Voice 11: but I think since the dock was built,

[2:38:23] Voice 11: it's a different situation than if this was an application

[2:38:25] Voice 11: to build a dock.

[2:38:29] Voice 2: Sorry, yes, and through the chair, I do agree.

[2:38:32] Voice 2: And that was, you know, before,

[2:38:36] Voice 2: after I learned of this oversight on my part,

[2:38:38] Voice 2: which i do apologize for um it was my opinion that that the the doc has been there for you

[2:38:45] Voice 2: know a number of years and the the qep materials provided show there's been no change from their

[2:38:52] Voice 2: initial um survey to now and they don't anticipate or foresee any issues with the existing dock

[2:39:02] Voice 10: and then i just have a question um in the absence of this referral uh is there any jeopardy for this

[2:39:10] Voice 10: uh issuance of this uh dbp to be challenged mr chair um the while we didn't do a formal

[2:39:18] referral we have had discussions with ips uh as well as qualified environmental professionals

[2:39:24] uh starting the allocated development permit that accompanies this application so um in

[2:39:30] terms of its any risk around it there's no

[2:39:35] Voice 11: actual risk so we don't really foresee anything actionable

[2:39:40] Voice 11: in that sense that uh could result in this uh being overturned or watched okay thank you yeah

[2:39:47] Voice 11: that's just good to have that clarity uh

[2:39:50] Voice 9: so anything further uh

[2:39:52] Voice 10: that being the case i'll

[2:39:53] Voice 10: call the question all in favor and the motion carries thank you very much so uh next up is the

[2:40:03] Voice 11: bdp uh paragon way page 186. i think this is uh planner caprov good

[2:40:15] Voice 1: afternoon chair peterson

[2:40:16] Voice 1: trustee harris and trustee patrick this variance is to relax the 7.5 meter or 24.6 foot rear lot

[2:40:24] Voice 1: setback. It's located at 118 Peregrine Way and the relaxation would be to five meters or 16.4 feet.

[2:40:32] Voice 1: This is to allow construction of an addition of a dwelling onto an existing carport.

[2:40:37] Voice 1: The application is considered by staff to be minor. No correspondence was received during

[2:40:43] Voice 1: the notification period for the application and staff recommendations on page one

[2:40:49] Voice 1: that the LTC approve issuance of the DVP.

[2:40:52] Voice 1: The applicant is here if you have any questions,

[2:40:54] Voice 1: and I'm here as well.

[2:40:57] Voice 10: Okay, thank you.

[2:40:58] Voice 10: Do you wish to add anything?

[2:41:02] Voice 6: No, I think that pretty much covers it.

[2:41:05] Voice 6: I'll answer any questions you have.

[2:41:08] Voice 6: We have an existing structure.

[2:41:10] Voice 6: We'd like to bring it up to code

[2:41:12] Voice 6: and keep the same footprint, basically.

[2:41:16] Voice 6: But hydro, water, sewer are already to that location, and it just makes sense to bring that up to code.

[2:41:27] Voice 10: Thank you. Any questions for the planner or the applicant?

[2:41:31] I

[2:41:32] Voice 10: don't have any questions.

[2:41:33] Voice 10: Okay, I'm not seeing any. Do you have a

[2:41:34] Voice 11: recommendation before us?

[2:41:38] Voice 11: Mr. Palmer, with the Salt Lake Island Local Trust Committee, approved issuance of SSDDP 2023.19.

[2:41:44] Voice 10: So moved, and no seconder. We've been seconded. Any further discussion?

[2:41:50] Voice 10: I will

[2:41:50] Voice 11: call the question then. All those in favor, share this.

[2:41:56] Voice 11: Thank you.

[2:41:59] Voice 11: Any opposed, I should only say that.

[2:42:02] Voice 11: Alright, thank you for that. That moves us on to section 14.

[2:42:08] Voice 11: We have a staff update on the Mutual Community Plan By-law Review Project Terms of Reference.

[2:42:17] Voice 11: And, I don't see a page number.

[2:42:42] Voice 11: Thank you,

[2:42:45] Voice 5: Chair. Greetings, Trustees. Nice to see you again. Probably worthwhile to begin

[2:42:50] Voice 5: with the fact that my temporary assignment here with the Islands Trust, which was due

[2:42:54] Voice 5: to expire at the end of the fiscal year has been extended through to August so I have the

[2:42:59] Voice 5: opportunity to continue working alongside you and for you to continue advance some of the projects

[2:43:03] Voice 5: that you've got on the go. It had been my intention to hopefully bring two reports to you today, one

[2:43:09] Voice 5: about engagement strategies related to the complete communities assessment that the LTC is about to

[2:43:14] Voice 5: undertake and the second around the terms of reference for your OCP LUV project due to some

[2:43:21] Voice 5: parenting challenges last week. Much of my week got gobbled up by attending to that rather than

[2:43:26] Voice 5: to the development of the staff reports I'd hoped to have. So I just wanted to provide you a quick

[2:43:29] Voice 5: verbal update today and tell you a little bit about what to expect at your meeting on March

[2:43:35] Voice 5: 7th to come from me on these two items. So with your permission, on the complete communities

[2:43:41] Voice 5: assessment front, as you will know, we posted an RFP to the BC BID website and to the Islands Trust

[2:43:48] Voice 5: website in early January. That competition closed in early February and the submissions that we

[2:43:55] Voice 5: received are now under evaluation and I hope to be able to report some good news to you on that

[2:43:59] Voice 5: front shortly. In the interim, I've just been working the phone talking to staff at various

[2:44:05] Voice 5: government agencies or agencies of some jurisdiction in relation to the Islands Trust just to prepare

[2:44:09] Voice 5: them for this project which is about to launch and the fact that we will have some data needs

[2:44:15] Voice 5: that we will need to obtain from them and just to determine what their data

[2:44:19] Voice 5: sharing requirements are and so that's that's where the complete communities

[2:44:24] Voice 5: assessment project stands at the moment happy to take any questions but maybe

[2:44:29] Voice 5: I'll just run sort of complete my little monologue here and then and then you can

[2:44:33] Voice 5: pepper me with any questions you've got on the OCP LUB amendment project it's my

[2:44:40] Voice 5: intention to bring back to you at the March 7th meeting a revised terms of

[2:44:44] Voice 5: reference i believe you've seen the terms of reference for this project uh once if not more

[2:44:49] Voice 5: times uh than that and i find in coming into a project like this where i've got some management

[2:44:55] Voice 5: responsibility of it i just need to restructure things and and put it in a format and in a

[2:45:00] Voice 5: language that's a little more legible to me so it is my intention to do that with that terms of

[2:45:05] Voice 5: reference and hopefully you will also find it legible it's just helpful for me to sort of begin

[2:45:10] Voice 5: in to structure things in a way that will allow me to achieve success on behalf of you as we move

[2:45:16] Voice 5: forward. When I come to you on March 7th with restructured terms of reference, probably the

[2:45:22] Voice 5: main points of conversation that the LTC is going to have to consider is going to be project scope,

[2:45:28] Voice 5: maybe not at a detail level, but I think we do need probably a discussion at your table around

[2:45:35] Voice 5: how much can be done in the time that we've got available and help the trustees hone in,

[2:45:40] Voice 5: perhaps on the specific areas that are of most concern to you and maybe turn our attention

[2:45:44] Voice 5: towards those. It looks fairly expansive at the moment, and it can remain expansive if that's

[2:45:49] Voice 5: the wish of the LTC, but we probably need to have a bit of a discussion about what can be done in

[2:45:55] Voice 5: the time that's available. And then the second element, which I think is going to warrant

[2:46:00] Voice 5: discussion at the table, is a conversation about the nature of how First Nations are going to be

[2:46:05] Voice 5: be engaged in the development of this OCP, particularly around the development of the

[2:46:10] Voice 5: process that we use to create this new OCP. I think we've received correspondence or you have

[2:46:17] Voice 5: received correspondence over the past few years that expresses the desire to be involved at the

[2:46:23] Voice 5: earliest stages of these major projects. And so it will behoove the LTC to have a conversation about

[2:46:30] Voice 5: what that is going to look like and what this body's expectations are for that involvement.

[2:46:38] Voice 5: Beyond those two projects, you'll recall when I sat before you in December, I gave you a quick

[2:46:42] Voice 5: update on projects or a number of sub-projects related to your water sustainability portfolio.

[2:46:50] Voice 5: One was around governance. Over the last couple weeks and looking into next week,

[2:46:55] Voice 5: I've had meetings with some water interested folk to scope out a meeting in the near future,

[2:47:00] Voice 5: a community style meeting in the near future around watershed protection and watershed

[2:47:04] Voice 5: governance issues. And then next week, I'll be meeting with staff of the North Salt Spring Water

[2:47:08] Voice 5: District and of the CRD to sort of discuss these governance issues as well from a resourcing and

[2:47:16] Voice 5: capacity and interest perspective on the part of those various agencies to see how we can

[2:47:22] Voice 5: collaborate to advance that file. I heard Trustee Harris earlier mention the proof of water at time

[2:47:27] Voice 5: subdivision bylaw. I will admit, as I've moved on to looking at the Complete Communities Project

[2:47:32] Voice 5: and the OCPLUB project, I have not made any movement on that proof of water subproject,

[2:47:39] Voice 5: though I do. My next steps on that are to go back and address the questions, comments,

[2:47:44] Voice 5: and concerns that were raised both in May of 2022 and in December of 2023, and hopefully come back

[2:47:51] Voice 5: to you with some explanatory information related to that file. And then finally on the LTC's

[2:47:58] Voice 5: groundwater monitoring and lake water monitoring program, we're just on the cusp of sending out

[2:48:03] Voice 5: some correspondence to the property owners who host those observation wells and lake monitoring

[2:48:08] Voice 5: stations, just to advise of the next steps of that project, which are to report back to the LTC with

[2:48:13] Voice 5: a report on the outcomes of the project, and also to request that those landowners continue to

[2:48:20] Voice 5: support this project by allowing those monitoring stations to remain there and continuing to allow

[2:48:24] Voice 5: the islands trust access to them that concludes my presentation thank you chair okay thank you

[2:48:33] Voice 11: uh any questions for us yes yes sorry um thank you uh you did make reference to a new ocp i

[2:48:47] Voice 11: just wanted to catch you i i think you've always assumed it was going to be a focused review um

[2:48:54] Voice 11: not a replacement of the OCP,

[2:48:56] Voice 11: a refreshing of the OCP in appropriate locations.

[2:49:00] Voice 5: From a project scope perspective,

[2:49:01] Voice 5: it is my hope that's what it is as well.

[2:49:03] Voice 11: Well, and I've pointed out in conversations with you

[2:49:07] Voice 11: and with RKM Hutton

[2:49:10] Voice 11: that this body has never scoped this exercise.

[2:49:14] Voice 11: It's been carrying on documents.

[2:49:17] Voice 11: Previous local trust committee

[2:49:19] Voice 11: who had never scoped it either.

[2:49:21] Voice 11: um so uh it is lacking that um that input and i'm glad you'll take that time to do it

[2:49:31] Voice 11: in regard um to first the first nation's uh engagement um i would hope that the province

[2:49:40] Voice 11: is being consulted on what they expect good to look like because this does end up on their plate

[2:49:47] Voice 11: to approve at the end of the day and i think i certainly hope we're targeting something that we

[2:49:53] Voice 11: approve in this term um and it would be lovely to have a bow wrapped up on it at this term too

[2:50:00] Voice 11: so i think knowing um what the province expects and being able to build that into

[2:50:06] Voice 11: the process just makes sense so that we have an agreement of what good looks like

[2:50:12] Voice 11: um at the end of the day because we are such a complicated location um

[2:50:18] Voice 11: for compared to all the other

[2:50:20] Voice 11: items in the IELTS trust.

[2:50:22] Voice 11: That's a,

[2:50:26] Voice 11: I know you look at the dollar values assigned to this project and hope,

[2:50:30] Voice 11: you know, without the scope, it's hard to say, is it sufficient?

[2:50:33] Voice 11: Or is it too much without having, you know, linking those two together?

[2:50:38] Voice 11: But there is an opening now of the grant for the C2C funding.

[2:50:45] Voice 11: Is there, you know,

[2:50:47] Voice 11: is there any benefit of time to invest in in getting any additional funds from that program

[2:50:56] Voice 11: um i'd almost be willing to say we should be silly i'm sorry i hate using the word silly

[2:51:01] Voice 11: all the time but we're only allowed one application of the old whole islands trust

[2:51:06] Voice 11: We have a team of nations that know the involvement that we have, and do we ask for more than

[2:51:15] Voice 11: what's allowed?

[2:51:17] Voice 11: So I guess it's more of a question to you as we figure out these early steps, do we

[2:51:22] Voice 11: have the alignment of funding to do?

[2:51:25] Voice 11: We don't know what the extent of the communications or engagement would look like, but once we

[2:51:33] Voice 12: know

[2:51:33] Voice 11: that answer do we have the funding to achieve that um you know so i think that those are things

[2:51:39] Voice 11: that need to be answered pretty soon um to make sure that the funding is going to align with the

[2:51:46] Voice 11: project um in the full way not just um our island community engagement with the first nations as

[2:51:52] Voice 11: well so that's that's all i'm trying to pay attention i don't want to get us in a pickle

[2:51:58] Voice 11: goal could be mismatched uh mr chair am i bitter um in that consideration is it fair to say that

[2:52:09] Voice 11: the expectation here is that um we do need to find a budget appropriate scope um that has a

[2:52:18] companion budget appropriate or at least an appropriate engagement goal with first nations

[2:52:24] um and that we scope the engagement that that process i think that that not only puts an

[2:52:30] notice on us to engage the province in terms of their understanding but also to be extremely clear

[2:52:37] with the first nation about the scope of this decision um and the sort

[2:52:40] Voice 11: of not to set expectations

[2:52:42] Voice 11: but to set expectations in a little bit of a way to help guide that discussion um i think there's

[2:52:48] Voice 11: probably we'll pilot rather relational opportunities with presentation as we go forward

[2:52:52] Voice 11: but that that that's also kind of a parallel process that we need to do that so we'll sort

[2:52:58] Voice 11: sort of work to untie those many knots and bring that into the partnership.

[2:53:04] Voice 12: Thank you.

[2:53:04] Voice 11: Anything further on this item

[2:53:07] Voice 11: to take? Nothing further

[2:53:14] Voice 5: from you on that. Thank you.

[2:53:16] Voice 10: All right. Well, thank you for that update. And then we'll move on

[2:53:20] Voice 10: to Section 15, New Business. On page

[2:53:24] Voice 10: 202, we have a referral from the Thetis Island LTC

[2:53:29] Voice 10: on their draft bylaws

[2:53:31] Voice 11: 113 and

[2:53:32] Voice 11: in 114 and is this coming from Mr. Pingel today?

[2:53:38] Voice 11: So let's click forward it because it's a referral.

[2:53:43] Voice 11: The recommendation is a motion

[2:53:46] Voice 11: as the LTC's interests are unaffected.

[2:53:52] Voice 11: Okay, thank you.

[2:53:54] Voice 10: Any questions or comments, trustees?

[2:53:56] Voice 11: No, I can move the motion and I'd like to thank

[2:53:59] Voice 11: Sarah for being thoughtful here.

[2:54:02] Voice 11: I move that the Salisbury Automobile Trust Committee

[2:54:04] Voice 11: respond to the thetis island local trust committee to indicate interests are unaffected draft bylaws

[2:54:09] Voice 11: number 113 and 114. so moved and a seconder all right i'll go ahead and second that

[2:54:26] Voice 10: trustee harris do you have any questions about this that could provide you

[2:54:30] Voice 11: okay so any further discussion on the motion then

[2:54:43] Voice 10: not seeing any other question all those in favor and any opposed and then the motion carries

[2:54:54] Voice 10: uh next we have at page 222 we have a housing statute changes to british columbia legislation

[2:55:06] Voice 11: memorandum that's coming to us from director of programming services uh stephen serbach

[2:55:16] Voice 11: and um i believe he's joining us today um so this is uh for information and certainly if there's a

[2:55:31] Voice 11: discussion uh desired here then i'm open to that i would trust you back well that was a bit

[2:55:39] Voice 11: surprising to that report because i think it a bit oversimplifies the situation i think you heard the

[2:55:46] Voice 11: town hall this morning was like oh this is great the province will cover all your costs we just

[2:55:49] Voice 11: just opt in. I think there would be an awful lot of places that would be potentially able

[2:55:59] Voice 11: to have vacation rentals that aren't today. So it would actually grow the impact on the

[2:56:07] Voice 11: island dramatically. Also, I look at Tofino and I look at Bowman Island, who are also

[2:56:14] Voice 11: considering opting in. They both have full community consultation processes underway

[2:56:19] Voice 11: way to get the input from the community and the people that would be affected by this so um here

[2:56:26] Voice 11: on salt spring i know the salt spring accommodation group has been eagerly waiting to be invited to be

[2:56:33] Voice 11: involved and doing uh not only the new regulations but all of our regulations including the home

[2:56:42] Voice 11: based businesses to look at modernizing what we've heard this morning a member in the in the

[2:56:50] Voice 11: town hall talk

[2:56:51] Voice 11: about the impacts on them and i think they're they're a case of of what we would

[2:56:57] Voice 11: want to see a young family that needs the added income to be able to afford to live on the island

[2:57:02] Voice 11: we're contributing to the item um yet our current um regulations are out of date and not working

[2:57:10] Voice 11: so it is a matter that needs to be worked on i absolutely hope um that through the complete

[2:57:18] Voice 11: community grant that

[2:57:20] Voice 11: we have an opportunity to collect some of the

[2:57:23] Voice 11: data to support

[2:57:25] Voice 11: what this issue

[2:57:26] Voice 11: is. A bit clear,

[2:57:28] Voice 11: because I think that's

[2:57:30] Voice 11: the guidance material on this new

[2:57:32] Voice 11: act is very clear that we need

[2:57:34] Voice 11: to have some data to support your

[2:57:36] Voice 11: requests to the province.

[2:57:39] Voice 11: There's also a good

[2:57:40] Voice 11: question to the province. The province,

[2:57:42] Voice 11: just because you vote and opt in, doesn't

[2:57:45] Voice 11: mean you're in. The province

[2:57:47] Voice 11: has to approve your request to opt-in. The Southern Gulf Island Forum has invited

[2:57:53] Voice 11: ministry staff to address them, asking some of those questions. If an island did approve

[2:58:00] Voice 11: the opt-in, is the province even going to consider saying yes to a Gulf Island?

[2:58:05] Voice 11: Especially when the right correspondent is saying we're primarily a vacation-based

[2:58:08] Voice 11: place. So we don't know. We just don't know what they're going to say.

[2:58:11] Voice 11: So the one thing that out of this act is the most intriguing and something that we should be discussing in our meeting with the CRD is the potential for business licenses.

[2:58:24] Voice 11: I think that's probably something that needs to be looked at as to what are the benefits overall, not just vacation rentals, but to potentially help us on

[2:58:34] Voice 11: of 40 businesses that they're planning to set up and do business.

[2:58:39] Voice 11: They have so many to do what they're doing.

[2:58:43] Voice 11: And I think there's a lot of opportunities there.

[2:58:47] Voice 11: So I would hope, and it's something I think I'd want to see noted in the minutes,

[2:58:53] Voice 11: that I would expect, like I said, the Salt Spring Accommodation Group has offered

[2:58:58] Voice 11: to participate in a roundtable to share information,

[2:59:03] Voice 11: maybe participants in any potential changes that they be a group that as we go into the

[2:59:11] Voice 11: complete communities that we engage with on the topic of vacation or short-term rentals

[2:59:20] Voice 11: but I think you know I would absolutely expect Salt Spring to do full community engagement

[2:59:29] Voice 11: on this topic just like Bowman and Tofino are doing right now it's too late for us to consider

[2:59:38] Voice 11: it for this year that this is an annual opportunity to opt in so it's something I think we need some

[2:59:48] Voice 11: data we need some consultation and I think the current programs that we have can provide us

[2:59:57] Voice 11: that information that we need to make

[3:00:00] Voice 11: decision next year thank you anything for me trustee harris okay um yeah i'll just

[3:00:09] Voice 10: uh sort

[3:00:10] Voice 10: of echo a bit of what uh trustee patrick said there with the march 31st deadline and

[3:00:16] um lack of

[3:00:18] Voice 9: any analysis or implications of an opt-in and of course the the report here does

[3:00:26] Voice 10: as mentioned that the executive committee is recommending

[3:00:30] Voice 10: that consideration of opting in be looked at

[3:00:33] Voice 10: for the 2025 intake

[3:00:35] Voice 9: rather than the state intake.

[3:00:37] Voice 9: My recollection of that discussion is directly around

[3:00:40] Voice 9: assessing impacts and in fact,

[3:00:43] Voice 9: this is our ability of

[3:00:44] Voice 10: opting in.

[3:00:47] Voice 10: I will note that up on the Hornby Island

[3:00:51] Voice 10: Local Trust Committee,

[3:00:52] Voice 10: committee. The LTC there was pleased

[3:00:57] Voice 9: to hear from the Comox Valley Regional District Director

[3:01:03] Voice 9: that that regional district is looking into business licensing and the local trust committee

[3:01:12] Voice 9: had directed the

[3:01:13] Voice 10: chair to send a letter of support for funding a feasibility study. It's

[3:01:21] Voice 10: not clear whether the the

[3:01:23] Voice 9: cbrd is going to consider that for the whole district but they are

[3:01:28] Voice 9: they are willing to look at it um well we'll see when the budget is finalized but certainly the

[3:01:35] Voice 9: directory indicated there's some willingness to look at it uh specifically for hornby if if uh

[3:01:41] Voice 9: even if perhaps the whole district is not uh wanting to opt in so given the challenges with

[3:01:48] Voice 9: harm me uh in terms of short-term vacation rental so that's a really positive step so

[3:01:53] Voice 9: remains to be seen or to see the capital regional district is on this but that could certainly be

[3:02:00] Voice 9: helpful in terms of uh broadening the

[3:02:04] Voice 11: options for uh short-term vacation uh rental um regulations

[3:02:10] Voice 11: right comments there uh yes trustee patrick it is a little bit more detailed analysis

[3:02:17] Voice 11: this report is on the regional planning committee's agenda for tomorrow minus the consultation piece

[3:02:23] Voice 11: so i think there's a lot to be learned i really encourage people to look out to tofino and bone

[3:02:27] Voice 11: consultation they got open now as examples of what uh we should be doing in our various committees

[3:02:39] Voice 11: okay i'll made a note to myself

[3:02:43] Voice 10: to have a look at that

[3:02:46] Voice 10: I won't be able to make that attend the meeting but I guess I could always look at the recording

[3:02:52] Voice 10: later. So if there's nothing further on this piece then I think we could move on to the

[3:03:01] Voice 10: item 15.3 which is the Island Pathways discussion and

[3:03:07] Voice 11: turn it over to you, Trustee Patrick.

[3:03:10] Voice 11: Robin Jenkinson, Outreach Director of Violence Pathway, sent a message yesterday. I'm on the

[3:03:24] Voice 11: Salish Sea Network Trail group that meets regularly on Fridays. It's been organized

[3:03:36] Voice 11: through Adam Wilson's office and this is completing the last segment of the Salish

[3:03:41] Voice 11: sea trail which happens to be the last thing to sell spring um so this group has been working

[3:03:46] Voice 11: really hard i think robin is an incredible community member who's been just devoting

[3:03:50] Voice 11: so much to trying to get this last segment of the trail done but she's asked for is a

[3:03:55] Voice 11: letter of support for uh an application that they are making to

[3:04:06] Voice 11: uh pacific pacificans tourism growth program uh for funding for the trail and she's asked

[3:04:14] Voice 11: for a letter of support that was basically based on one that we made uh in this body march 23 of 22

[3:04:22] Voice 11: um um so uh that's what he's asked for okay i'm happy to make a motion that um

[3:04:38] Voice 11: that she's got it figured out um i just have to reference the lunch yeah so

[3:04:47] Voice 11: i know that the salt

[3:04:49] Voice 11: spring animal trust city requests chair peterson to send a letter of support to the animal pathways

[3:04:54] Voice 11: grant application to support the tourism growth program for the salish cv trail project and

[3:05:01] Voice 11: need to reference the

[3:05:06] Voice 12: previous

[3:05:08] Voice 11: one called the March 20th letter, or I think you could take that into consideration, right?

[3:05:16] Voice 11: That's probably

[3:05:17] Voice 12: sufficient to then just reference this letter.

[3:05:22] Voice 3: So it's a letter of support for Island Pathways out of Bayview 2, Pacific Pass,

[3:05:28] Voice 3: it was in those

[3:05:28] Voice 11: programs yeah okay so moved uh would you like to second that

[3:05:38] Voice 11: i'll go ahead and that and uh discussion um any uh i did i

[3:05:50] Voice 11: did read the uh the uh previous um

[3:05:58] Voice 11: letter from 2022 around this and i'm aware of the uh the salish sea trail um initiative and uh

[3:06:12] Voice 11: interesting i didn't quite quite uh

[3:06:14] Voice 10: understand that uh salt spring is the final piece of the of

[3:06:19] Voice 10: the route um it

[3:06:20] Voice 11: is it's all complete but that's uh

[3:06:22] Voice 11: that's very interesting i know this has been

[3:06:24] Voice 11: on a long long uh long-term project and i'm in support of this um anything further not saying

[3:06:38] Voice 11: any i will call the question all those in favor and any opposed my position and that motion carries

[3:06:54] Voice 11: um so this brings us over to the report section on page 237 and we have the policy and standings

[3:07:03] Voice 11: res setting resolutions lists any uh questions or updates on that update mr chair thank you um then

[3:07:13] Voice 11: on page 248 we have the future projects report anything there sure we'll update that um we are

[3:07:22] working to as we work with the financial planning committee um around the budgeting and the

[3:07:29] the organization of projects and budgets.

[3:07:32] We'll be working to combine the Clean Communities grant

[3:07:38] into the OCP-LEV project,

[3:07:41] noting that it is a distinctive deliverable

[3:07:43] from the overall OCP-LEV project.

[3:07:47] So you can expect a, probably an update

[3:07:50] in the next LTC-082 to clarify that

[3:07:55] Voice 11: work.

[3:08:01] Voice 11: Hal Hallstein, Thank you any any questions Oh, yes, well, I think I think at the same time, I would hope that this this active project list is melded all the right now the

[3:08:13] Voice 11: wording is different budget cases.

[3:08:17] Voice 11: Hal Hallstein, So let's turn from the truckers and in the descriptions, so I think it'd be an opportunity to get it all alive.

[3:08:25] Voice 11: Hal Hallstein, Sometimes it's good.

[3:08:33] Voice 11: noted it's not asking for more work but it just does stick out that intermediate it goes oh

[3:08:40] Voice 10: all right then so moving on to uh section 16.4 with the applications from status report

[3:08:48] i think from staff on this section no please sure

[3:08:53] Voice 10: okay thank you anything from trustees

[3:08:56] Voice 10: not seeing any uh looks we have the uh expense report on page 273

[3:09:09] Voice 10: we used to seeing that by now um so and we have no honest trust conservancy board report

[3:09:20] Voice 10: today uh and we have no closed meeting schedule so the next uh regular meeting of the salt

[3:09:30] Voice 10: salt spring island local trust committee is scheduled for 9 30 a.m on march 7th

[3:09:35] Voice 10: right here at the legion meeting hall um and for that i'll uh move towards adjournment here

[3:09:47] Voice 11: So, call for adjournment, whatever it is.

[3:09:49] Voice 11: Call for

[3:09:49] Voice 11: adjournment, yeah. Anyone opposed? No. Okay, thank you everyone.

Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee Minutes ADOPTED 1 
February 15, 2024 
  
 
Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee 
Minutes of Regular Meeting 
 
 
Date: Thursday, February 15, 2024 
  
Location: Meaden Hall 
120 Blain Road, Salt Spring Island
 
  
 
Members Present: 
 
 
Timothy Peterson, Chair 
Jamie Harris, Local Trustee  
Laura Patrick, Local Trustee   
 
Staff Present: 
 
Chris Hutton, Regional Planning Manager (RPM) 
Anthony Fotino, Island Planner (Zoom) 
Jason Youmans, Auxiliary Planner (Zoom) 
Charly Caproff, Planner 1 (Zoom) 
Rob Pingle, Legislative Clerk 
Sarah Shugar, Recorder 
 
Others Present: Approximately 19 members of the public (18 in person, 1 on Zoom) 
These minutes follow the order of the agenda although the sequence may have varied. The electronic 
meeting was live streamed and recorded. 
1. CALL TO ORDER 
 
 Chair Peterson called the meeting to order at 9:34 a.m. He welcomed everyone to a meeting of 
the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee (LTC) and introduced himself, the Trustees and staff. 
Chair Peterson humbly stated gratitude to live and work in Coast Salish First Nations territory. 
 
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 
 
 
The following item was presented for inclusion in the agenda: 
 15.3 Island Pathways PacifiCan Tourism Growth Program Submission 
  
 By general consent, the agenda was adopted as amended. 
 
3. TOWN HALL AND QUESTIONS 
 
Chair Peterson opened the town hall at 9:37 a.m. 
 
A member of the public asked whether the LTC is aware of bylaw enforcement against bed & 
breakfast  short-term  vacation  rentals  operated out  of  seasonal  cottages.  The  member  of  the 
public requested the LTC to respond to her emails regarding bylaw enforcement of her bed and 
breakfast short-term vacation rental. 

 
 
Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee Minutes ADOPTED 2 
February 15, 2024 
  
A member of the public spoke to protection of freshwater resources, requested the LTC to not 
allow additional uses at 130 Blackburn Road and referred to their letter in the agenda package, 
item 9.26 for further information. 
 
A member of the public asked the LTC to hear delegations prior to the town hall section of the 
agenda. The  member  of  the  public  expressed  support  for  protection of the  Cusheon  Lake 
watershed, spoke to causes of toxic algal blooms and expressed concerns regarding uses at 130 
Blackburn Road impacting the watershed. The member of the public requested the LTC to ask 
staff to provide a report on opting in to the province principal residence requirement for short-
term rental. 
 
Beddis  Water  Service  Commissioner  Mike  McCormick expressed  concerns  regarding  activities 
within  the Cusheon Lake watershed  including uses at 130  Blackburn  Road, road  building,  tree 
cutting within Cusheon Creek riparian areas and requested the LTC to protect the Cusheon Lake 
watershed. 
 
Cusheon Lake Stewardship Committee member Jack Rosen spoke to the efforts to protect the 
Cusheon Lake watershed ecosystem  including  an  educational  program  for  property  owners  to 
reduce phosphorous going into the lake. Mr. Rosen advised Cusheon Lake is the potable water 
source for over 600 residents and is used by thousands of people for recreation and requested the 
LTC to uphold the zoning to protect the watershed.  
 
A member of the public expressed concerns regarding the uses at 130 Blackburn Road impacting 
the Cusheon Lake watershed and requested the LTC to uphold the current zoning. 
 
4. DELEGATIONS 
 
4.1   Salt Spring Island Water Preservation Society - Chris Drake regarding business operations at 
130 Blackburn Road 
 
Chris Drake presented the Salt Spring Island Water Preservation Society letter dated January 
31, 2024. Mr. Drake spoke to the importance of protection of the Cusheon Lake watershed, 
expressed concerns regarding 130 Blackburn Road and requested the LTC to maintain the 
current  zoning  on  130  Blackburn  Road  and  not  allow  a  kennel,  pound,  campground  or 
anything more than a single family dwelling to be located there.  
 
4.2  Cusheon  Lake  Stewardship  Committee - Doreen  Hewitt  regarding  preservation  of  the 
Cusheon Watershed and other fresh watersheds on Salt Spring Island  
 
Doreen Hewitt presented a delegation regarding preservation of the Cusheon Watershed and 
other  watersheds. Doreen  Hewitt acknowledged  the  LTC  for  denying  application SS-TUP-
2023.1 at 130 Blackburn Road at the LTC meeting of November 16, 2023 and requested the 
LTC to uphold the bylaws to protect the Cusheon Lake watershed. 
   
  

 
 
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5. TRUSTEE REPORTS 
 
Trustee Harris expressed concern that the LTC approved the Proof of Water – Subdivision Project 
Charter at the December 14, 2023 LTC meeting and that the project as it is currently intended 
would essentially make it impossible to subdivide due to rainwater catchment and desalinization 
not being permitted for proof of water. 
 
Trustee Patrick presented the following report:  
 At the 2023 Union of BC Municipalities Housing Summit, the Province announced plans to 
improve housing in every community in BC; 
 Expressed support for working on providing choices for our diverse island community to be 
resilient; 
 Attended a Corporate Planning Working Group meeting regarding implementing a corporate 
planning structure framework for the Islands Trust; 
 Trustee Patrick is a member of the Chief Administrative Officer Hiring Committee; 
 Attended a Financial Planning Committee meeting; 
 Attended a Ferry Advisory Committee meeting regarding Vesuvius Terminal and schedules; 
 Attended the Transport Canada 2024 Salish Sea Strategy Symposium; 
 Attended a Southern Gulf Island Marine Roundtable hosted by MP Elizabeth May; 
 Attended a Southern Gulf Island Forum meeting; 
 Assisted the Rural  Economic  Partnership  to  prepare  a  grant application  for  a  housing 
navigator organization; 
 Attended the 2024 Climate Caucus for elected officials across Canada. 
 
6. CHAIR'S REPORT  
 
 Chair Peterson presented the following report: 
 Attended  Financial  Planning  Committee  and  Governance  Committee meetings in 
preparation for the March 12 to 14, 2024 Trust Council; 
 Attended the Transport Canada 2024 Salish Sea Strategy Symposium and noted Islands Trust 
has requested an inter-government meeting approach to regulation of mooring buoys and 
noted Transport Canada designation of mooring buoys as minor works. Chair Peterson also 
attended a session let by Penelakut Tribe elder Kathleen Johnny regarding clam gardens; 
 Chair  Peterson  advised  he  will  not  attend  the March  7,  2024  LTC  meeting  and  Peter 
Luckham will attend as alternate Chair.  
 
7. CRD DIRECTOR'S REPORT - None 
 
8. PREVIOUS MEETINGS 
 
 8.1 Draft Minutes of the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee 
 
  8.1.1   Draft Minutes of the November 15, 2023 SSI LTC Special Meeting 
 
 
By general consent, the minutes of November 15, 2023 Salt Spring Island Local Trust 
Committee Special meeting were adopted.
 
 

 
 
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  8.1.2  Draft Minutes of the December 14, 2023 SSI LTC Regular Meeting  
 
By general consent, the minutes of December 14, 2023 Salt Spring Island Local Trust 
Committee Regular meeting were adopted.
 
 
  8.1.3  Draft Minutes of the January 22, 2024 SSI LTC Special Meeting 
 
  By general consent, the minutes of January 22, 2024 Salt Spring Island Local Trust 
Committee Special meeting were adopted. 
 
8.2 Resolutions Without Meeting Report – None 
 
8.3 Draft Minutes of the Advisory Planning Commissions - None 
 
9. CORRESPONDENCE 
 
 9.1   S. Meyers to LTC - Dated 8 Dec 2023 - Regarding SS-TUP-2023.1 - 130 Blackburn Road  
 
 9.2   U. Meyers to LTC - Dated 8 Dec 2023 - Regarding SS-TUP-2023.1 - 130 Blackburn Road 
 
 9.3   S. Mahoney to LTC - Dated 10 Dec 2023 - Regarding the Complete Communities Grant  
 
 9.4   R. Ferguson to LTC - Dated 11 Dec 2023 - Regarding SS-TUP-2023.1 - 130 Blackburn Road 
 
 9.5   R. Percy to LTC - Dated 11 Dec 2023 - Regarding SS-TUP-2023.1 - 130 Blackburn Road 
 
 9.6   G. Stevens to LTC - Dated 12 Dec 2023 - Regarding review of Clean And Safe Harbour 
 Initiative  
 
 9.7   Ministry of Finance to Chair LTC - Dated 21 Dec 2023 - Regarding Speculation and Vacancy 
 Tax   
 
A Trustee noted Salt Spring Island has 82% full time residents and is not primarily a vacation 
community. The Trustee noted the Capital Regional District and Islands Trust did not take a 
coordinated approach to advocate for inclusion in the Speculation and Vacancy Tax. 
 
 9.8   N. Smith to LTC - Dated 24 Dec 2023 - Regarding Ganges Creek pollution  
 
 9.9   G.  Stevens  to  LTC - Dated  1  Jan  2024 - Regarding  review  of  Clean  And  Safe  Harbour 
 Initiative  
 
 9.10   D. Magnusson to LTC - Dated 2 Jan 2024 - Regarding potential rezoning of 130 Blackburn 
 Road  
 
 

 
 
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9.11  Minister  of  Housing  to  Chair  LTC - Dated  8  Jan  2024 - Regarding  Housing  Statues 
(Residential Development) Amendment Act, 2023 (Bill 44)  
 
 There was discussion and the following items were noted: 
 Trustees expressed support to include Salt Spring Island in the density provisions inBill 
44; 
 A  Trustee noted  we  need  updates  to  regulations  regarding  composting  toilets, 
rainwater  catchment,  reclaiming  water,  water  supply  for  multiple  connections  on 
groundwater wells and tiny homes to improve the housing situation; 
 A Trustee noted the issues facing Salt Spring Island are far too great to figure out, and 
suggested the LTC could ask the Province to appoint an administrator to find solutions 
for housing; 
 A Trustee noted it is appropriate for the Province to take a cautious approach for the 
Islands  Trust  Area  although  Salt  Spring  Island  has  the  highest  population within  the 
Islands Trust Area; 
 
SS-2024-009 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That  the  Salt  Spring  Island  Local  Trust  Committee request  Chair Peterson  to respond to 
Minister of Housing letter dated January 8, 2024 regarding Housing Statues Amendment 
Act, 2023 (Bill 44). 
CARRIED 
 
9.12   A. Meyers to LTC - Dated 16 Jan 2024 - Regarding potential rezoning of 130 Blackburn 
Road 
 
9.13   J. Rosen to LTC - Dated 16 Jan 2024 - Regarding potential rezoning of 130 Blackburn Road 
 
9.14   C. Marshall to LTC - Dated 25 Jan 2024 - Regarding potential rezoning of 130 Blackburn 
Road 
 
9.15   D. Hewitt to LTC - Dated 25 Jan 2024 - Regarding potential rezoning of 130 Blackburn 
Road 
 
9.16   M. Moore to LTC - Dated 25 Jan 2024 - Regarding potential rezoning of 130 Blackburn 
Road 
 
9.17   J. Wright to LTC - Dated 26 Jan 2024 - Regarding potential rezoning of 130 Blackburn Road 
 
9.18   M. Leichter to LTC - Dated 26 Jan 2024 - Regarding potential rezoning of 130 Blackburn 
Road 
 
9.19   R. Dinneny to LTC - Dated 26 Jan 2024 - Regarding potential rezoning of 130 Blackburn 
Road 
 
9.20   N. Wigen to LTC - Dated 29 Jan 2024 - Regarding potential rezoning of 130 Blackburn Road 
 

 
 
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9.21   W. Ortlepp to LTC - Dated 30 Jan 2024 - Regarding potential rezoning of 130 Blackburn 
Road 
 
9.22   P. Mineau to LTC - Dated 1 Feb 2024 - Regarding potential rezoning of 130 Blackburn Road 
9.23   R. Waldick to LTC - Dated 1 Feb 2024 - Regarding potential rezoning of 130 Blackburn Road  
9.24   Minister of Housing to Chair LTC - Dated 1 Feb 2024 - Regarding Secondary Suite Incentive 
Program 
 Chair Peterson requested staff to speak to how Salt Spring Island fits into the Provincial 
Secondary Suite Incentive Program. RPM Hutton reported there are approximately 1500 
units on properties currently zoned for secondary suites and full time rental cottages.  
9.25   L. Milne to LTC - Dated 5 Feb 2024 - Regarding potential rezoning of 130 Blackburn 
Road
  
9.26   W. Hewitt to LTC - Dated 7 Feb 2024 - Regarding potential rezoning of 130 Blackburn Road 
9.27   M. Chandler to LTC - Dated 7 Feb 2024 - Regarding Secondary Suite Incentive Program  
 The correspondence items were received. 
 
10. BUSINESS ARISING FROM MINUTES 
 
 10.1  Follow-Up Action List dated February 2024 
 
A  Trustee expressed  support for  inter-governmental  meeting  to discuss opportunities to 
improve cooperation in community planning and legislative advocacy initiatives including 
topics such  as Saanich  Peninsula  Harbours  Environmental  Action  service  boundaries  and 
business licenses. 
 
SS-2024-010 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee request staff to schedule a meeting with 
the Capital Regional District Board Chair, Electoral Area Directors for Salt Spring and the 
Southern Gulf Islands, and the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee in accordance with 
the  1999  Capital Regional District  Board/Local Trust Committee Protocol  Agreement to 
discuss  opportunities  to  improve  cooperation  in  community  planning  and  legislative 
advocacy initiatives. 
CARRIED 
 
The report was received. 
  

 
 
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 10.2  Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee Special Meeting Schedule 
Legislative  Clerk  Pingle  presented  a memorandum  regarding the Salt  Spring  Island  Local 
Trust  Committee  Special  Meeting  Schedule. It  was  noted  evening  meetings  could  be 
coordinated  with  public  engagement  opportunities  for  projects  and/or  could  host  an 
evening meeting with the CRD and LCC. 
SS-2024-011 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee request staff to schedule an electronic 
Special Meeting at 5:00 p.m. on Tuesday February 27, 2024.  
CARRIED 
 
The meeting recessed for a lunch break at 11:25 a.m. and reconvened at 12:02 p.m. 
 
11. COMMUNITY INFORMATION MEETING - None 
 
12. PUBLIC HEARING – None 
 
13. APPLICATIONS AND REFERRALS 
 
 13.1   SS-DVP-2023.5 - B. Taylor - 250 Collins Road, SSI 
  
Planner Fotino presented a staff report dated January 30, 2024 regarding a development 
variance permit application to allow for an existing dock to be 73 square metres. 
 
 
Applicant Brent Taylor spoke to the application. 
 
SS-2024-012 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee approve issuance of SS-DVP-2023.5 (
250 
Collins Road)
. 
CARRIED 
 
 
 13.2   SS-DVP-2023.19 - D. Fox - 118 Peregrine Way, SSI Staff Report  
Planner Caproff presented a staff report dated January 30, 2024 regarding development 
variance application to vary the 7.5 metre rear lot setback minimum to permit a building 
within 5.0 metres of the rear lot line.  
Applicant Duane Fox spoke to the application. 
SS-2024-013 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee approve issuance of SS-DVP-2023.19 (118 
Peregrine Way).  
CARRIED 
  

 
 
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14. LOCAL TRUST COMMITTEE PROJECTS    
 
 14.1  Official Community Plan - Land Use Bylaw - Project Terms of Reference  
 
Planner Youmans presented an update regarding the Official Community Plan (OCP) /Land 
Use Bylaw (LUB) project and the Water Sustainability project. 
 
In discussion the following items were noted: 
 The OCP/LUB project will be a refresh of the current OCP and not a new OCP; 
 A  Trustee  asked  whether  the Province will  be  asked  what  is  expected to  align  the 
project  for  best  chance  of  approval regarding  First  Nations  consultation  and 
engagement and does the LTC have the funding to achieve good engagement. There 
was a  question  regarding  whether  Community  to  Community funding could provide 
additional funding. RPM Hutton advised the project budget needs to inform the scope 
of the engagement process to set expectations appropriately. 
  
15. NEW BUSINESS  
 
 15.1   Thetis Island Local Trust Committee Draft Bylaw Nos. 113 & 114 Referral  
 
A Bylaw Referral Form regarding Thetis Island Local Trust Committee Draft Bylaw No’s 113 
and 114 was presented. 
   
SS-2024-014 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee respond to the Thetis Island Local Trust 
Committee to indicate interests are unaffected by draft Bylaw Nos. 113 and 114. 
CARRIED 
 
 15.2  Housing Statute Changes to British Columbia Legislation 
A  Memorandum  dated  January 18,  2024  regarding Housing  Statute  Changes  to  British 
Columbia Legislation was presented. 
In discussion the following items were presented: 
 There is an opportunity for Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee to opt in to the 
provincial’s principal residence requirement for short-term rental accommodations and 
March 31, 2024 is the deadline for this year; 
 Tofino and Bowen Island are considering opting-in to the provincial principle residence 
requirementand have community consultation processes underway; 
 The Salt Spring Island Accommodations group has offered to participate in a review of 
the new STVR regulations and Islands Trust home based business regulations; 
 A Trustee noted potential for a CRD business license program; 
 The Hornby Island Local Trust Committee sent a letter of support for a feasibility study 
to be included in the Comox Valley Regional District (CVRD) business license program; 
 A detailed analysis of the Housing Statute Changes to British Columbia Legislation is on 
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 Trustees expressed support for consultation and data with the Complete Communities 
funding to provide information to make a decision regarding opting in to the provincial 
principle residence requirement in 2025; 
15.3 Island Pathways PacifiCan Tourism Growth Program Submission 
 Trustee Patrick presented an email received from Island Pathways dated February 14, 2024 
regarding a PacifiCan Tourism Growth Program grant for the Salish Sea Trail. 
SS-2024-015 
 It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
 That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee request Chair Peterson to send a letter of 
support for Island Pathways grant application to PacifiCan Tourism Growth Program for the 
Salish Sea Trail project. 
CARRIED 
Trustee Harris OPPOSED 
 
16. REPORTS 
 
 16.1  Policy and Standing Resolutions List  
 
The report was received. 
 
 16.2  Future Projects Report dated February 2024 
 
The report was received. 
 
 16.3  Active Projects Report dated February 2024 
 
  The report was received. 
 
 16.4  Applications with Status Report dated February 2024 
 
The report was received. 
 
 16.5  Expense Report dated November and December 2023 
 
The reports were received. 
 
 16.6 Islands Trust Conservancy Board Report – None 
 
17. CLOSED MEETING - None 
 
 
 

 
 
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18. UPCOMING MEETINGS 
 
The next regular meeting of the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee is scheduled on March 7, 
2024 at 9:30 a.m. at the Salt Spring Legion, Meaden Hall, 120 Blain Road. Please see the meeting 
calendar on the Islands Trust website at www.islandstrust.bc.ca for current meeting information 
and location. 
 
19. ADJOURNMENT 
 
 By general consent the meeting adjourned at 12:42 p.m. 
 
 
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Timothy Peterson, Chair 
 
CERTIFIED CORRECT: 
 
 
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Sarah Shugar, Recorder