Islands Trust Council community information meeting, July 9, 2024

[0:00:01] Voice 13: all right thank you very much so um good afternoon i'm calling this uh regular meeting of the

[0:00:08] Voice 13: galliano island local trust committee to order um please be aware that we're live streaming

[0:00:17] Voice 13: hopefully live streaming and recording the meeting and it should be uh available on the website in

[0:00:23] Voice 13: in a week or so um i want to begin by we're acknowledging that we're gathering here today

[0:00:33] Voice 13: on coach davis territory and specifically the territory of the penelaket nation

[0:00:38] Voice 13: and uh honored today to have chief um and counselors here and uh we're gonna give them some

[0:00:45] Voice 13: space um pretty pretty early in the agenda because i know we have other stuff that they want to do

[0:00:52] Voice 13: today. So very honored to have you join us here and it's important for our journey of reconciliation

[0:01:02] Voice 13: to welcome you to our meeting space and I'm very very pleased that you're here.

[0:01:10] Voice 13: So my name is Tim Peterson, I'm elected on Muskegon and I'm the chair of the Galliano

[0:01:24] Voice 13: trust committee with me our local trustees ben neighbourly uh lisa gavro and uh our planner

[0:01:34] Voice 13: kim stockdale's here and online we have um lisa millard is uh doing our online meeting

[0:01:41] Voice 13: administration and taking our minutes very appreciative for the technology that allows that

[0:01:48] Voice 13: um so yeah this meeting is an official forum for the local trust committee to make decisions about

[0:01:55] Voice 13: land use uh planning matters and discuss relevant business uh just remind everyone

[0:02:01] Voice 13: it's also a place of employment and our staff have the right to a safe and respectful workplace

[0:02:06] Voice 13: um and of course we do have a town hall opportunity here a couple of them as usual so

[0:02:13] Voice 13: um i'll let you know when we're there um but to start with we have uh an agenda and so i'll just

[0:02:22] Voice 13: look to trustees and we're going to reorder the agenda a little bit and give uh chief jock and

[0:02:29] Voice 13: counselors uh some space to speak um but other than that is there are there any other additions

[0:02:36] Voice 13: or amendments to the agenda?

[0:02:38] Voice 14: No?

[0:02:39] Voice 14: I was thinking

[0:02:40] Voice 10: that if we sort of follow through

[0:02:43] Voice 10: on the agenda, we could use the section

[0:02:47] Voice 10: which is First Nations report just to do our-

[0:02:49] Voice 13: That makes perfect sense to me.

[0:02:50] Voice 10: And since I'm sure there's some people here

[0:02:54] Voice 10: who want to thank them for being here as well.

[0:02:56] Voice 10: So if we went to the Tom Holland questions

[0:02:58] Voice 10: and then maybe put a short break at public hearing,

[0:03:01] Voice 10: that would allow people to leave.

[0:03:11] Voice 13: that's uh that's perfectly reasonable all right okay so we'll uh we'll approve the agenda as

[0:03:22] Voice 13: adopted then or as amended um and so we'll start out with trustee reports who'd like to go first

[0:03:31] Voice 6: I'll go first. All right. I'll share some updates from our recent quarterly trust council meeting

[0:03:40] Voice 6: which held on Salt Spring Island. Our three-day meeting, trust council participated

[0:03:45] Voice 6: in a strategic planning workshop to develop our plan for 2025 and 2028.

[0:03:52] Voice 6: The session followed an initial workshop we participated in in March. That's where we set

[0:03:59] Voice 6: our priorities the workshop was open to the public ensuring the transparency and community involvement

[0:04:05] Voice 6: and i believe that trustees found some great synergy during these discussions we also approved

[0:04:13] Voice 6: the audited financial statements for the year ending march 31st 2024 these statements show

[0:04:20] Voice 6: an annual surplus of $414,192. The surplus is thanks to increased grant revenue and some

[0:04:31] Voice 6: unspent budgeted funds. This strengthens our financial position and allows us to

[0:04:38] Voice 6: invest in future community projects. We also recognize the retirement of our CAO,

[0:04:45] Voice 6: Russell Keller, and we thank them for his eight years of service.

[0:04:50] Voice 6: Julia Lotz will serve as the intern chief administrative officer while we search for a permanent CAO.

[0:04:57] Voice 6: The Adams Trust chief administrative officer hiring committee is working on this, and it's expected to announce a new CAO later this year.

[0:05:06] Voice 6: uh lastly uh but not least i would like to thank uh carly bilney for taking on the role of secretary

[0:05:13] Voice 6: of the galliano island advisory planning commission uh if any community members are

[0:05:18] Voice 6: interested in working on the abc please feel free to watch uh to reach out uh if you have

[0:05:24] Voice 6: any questions or need any more details feel free to reach out to me my office hours are on mondays

[0:05:30] Voice 6: from 9 a.m. to 11. Thanks.

[0:05:36] Voice 10: Thank you. Thanks, Lisa.

[0:05:38] Voice 10: Good afternoon. I'm from the Worldwide Non-Trust Council.

[0:05:42] Voice 10: When I first saw the agenda, I noticed it was at North End Hall, and I was worried

[0:05:45] Voice 10: that I was not going to be able to find my way up here, and lo and behold, this morning

[0:05:50] Voice 10: we got a yellow line all the way to here.

[0:05:56] Voice 10: Some success on some of the work

[0:05:58] Voice 10: that we're doing with modi it was good to see that i think it's been close to 10 years since

[0:06:02] Voice 10: we've had that yellow line and i was it was a weird feeling this morning when i was on my way

[0:06:07] Voice 10: to the coffee shop because uh for some reason the road seemed wider no idea why it shouldn't seem

[0:06:14] Voice 10: that way but it did so um good to see that uh the second thing is um we've received um sort of

[0:06:21] Voice 10: contractor estimates for parking at montague and now we're in the process of seeing where we can

[0:06:27] Voice 10: find that funding so there's a certain couple updates on um you know some moving it quite a

[0:06:33] Voice 10: quite a bit a few emails on regards to the parking done i want to do i see um we've had a unique

[0:06:38] Voice 10: local solution to the parking down there which all of the parking signs were painted black so

[0:06:43] Voice 10: i guess that solves that problem for a little while

[0:06:49] Voice 10: the other thing was uh i was i was honored to um about a week a little over a week ago

[0:06:56] Voice 10: to be invited to attend

[0:06:58] Voice 10: Connecticut Island and to sit down

[0:07:00] Voice 10: with the Chief of Council.

[0:07:02] Voice 10: I went up there with Jamie Harris, the Trustee from

[0:07:04] Voice 10: Salisbury Island, and it was

[0:07:06] Voice 10: you know, for me it was kind of neat

[0:07:08] Voice 10: because I don't know how many times

[0:07:10] Voice 10: living at the North End and fishing with Edmund Crocker

[0:07:12] Voice 10: and going back and

[0:07:14] Voice 10: forth through the cut, that's

[0:07:16] Voice 10: the first time I tied up at

[0:07:18] Voice 10: Connecticut Island. So it was

[0:07:20] Voice 10: a unique experience and

[0:07:22] Voice 10: it was just great to sit down

[0:07:24] Voice 10: with with the treatment council and have a discussion and talk about whatever so um it

[0:07:30] Voice 10: was great i i thank them for that thank them for the invite and i think that's that's pretty much

[0:07:36] Voice 10: it for me thank

[0:07:38] Voice 13: you for that um and for chair's report uh trustee gabriel mentioned we had uh

[0:07:44] Voice 13: trust council in june on salt spring island um there it was the 50th anniversary of the islands

[0:07:51] Voice 13: trust act and we did we welcomed some past island trust council chairs and former uh salt stream

[0:07:57] Voice 13: trustees as well um mla adam olsen presented uh to trust council on inclusive governance and the

[0:08:04] Voice 13: role and the future of the island's trust which i think was really well received by trustees

[0:08:09] Voice 13: um sadly we heard a couple weeks later that he's announced he's not going to run again

[0:08:14] Voice 13: in the fall election and we know he'll be missed because he has been a strong advocate for the

[0:08:19] Voice 13: islands um also trust council we had a presentation from um ryan greville the manager of the national

[0:08:28] Voice 13: waters protection transport canada speaking about the wreck and hazardous vessels act um

[0:08:36] Voice 13: quite interesting uh trust council appointed uh my fellow lusketeer trustee ronnie to transport

[0:08:43] Voice 13: transport canada's general vessels technical working group um trust council directed staff

[0:08:52] Voice 13: to explore options for making integrated spatial planning part of our strategic planning process

[0:08:58] Voice 13: um yesterday we held our second committee of the whole meeting uh which was shared by vice chair

[0:09:05] Voice 13: maude uh which involved in camera a meeting with legal counsel specifically around the um

[0:09:12] Voice 13: the draft updated version of the policy statement which is

[0:09:17] Voice 13: getting a little old ad i think it was 1994 when it was that version was brought in and uh

[0:09:26] Voice 13: just finally i've been part of the island's trust uh reconciliation learning group um

[0:09:32] Voice 13: reminded me of police of dropping the hoodie from the

[0:09:36] Voice 13: culturally committed group who's who's been uh

[0:09:40] Voice 13: the group's been working doing online community calls and workshops with first nations mentors

[0:09:45] Voice 13: and it's been it's been a really good experience of learning and listening and having the opportunity

[0:09:53] Voice 13: to hear some really powerful speakers on a range of topics everything from traditional food

[0:09:59] Voice 13: education to culturally cultural safety and the lack thereof for example within the health care

[0:10:06] Voice 13: systems really powerful speakers some really good connections there so that's been uh

[0:10:13] Voice 13: it's been an important and positive part of my personal journey um shout out to them there's

[0:10:21] Voice 13: lisa scott hey okay so i don't believe we have uh director brent with us today he would normally

[0:10:30] Voice 13: come next and so that brings us on to the section that we have set aside for the first nations

[0:10:36] Voice 13: report so i'd like to invite um g jack and your counselors um to address us or tell us anything

[0:10:44] Voice 13: you like yeah

[0:10:46] Voice 6: thank you thanks everybody absolutely i

[0:10:53] Voice 14: see you guys rolled up the yellow line for us

[0:11:00] Voice 6: and i felt like a celebrity coming in everybody um

[0:11:20] Voice 6: I just want to say my name is I'm newly elected chief since February of

[0:11:32] Voice 6: I'm from Penelakut Island. My grandmother was, her father was Peter Jack from Penelakut Island.

[0:11:41] Voice 6: Her mother was Cecilia Jim from Sycam and Cecilia's parents were from Semihama.

[0:11:50] Voice 6: My grandmother and my grandfather raised me growing up in Seattle, in Sycam.

[0:12:02] Voice 6: in victoria and all about and then i married an allocate full circle right back to my great

[0:12:09] Voice 6: grandfather's roots and um as i said newly elected as chief there i want to thank my council kenny

[0:12:19] Voice 6: and kurt for being here and we have what i call youth but our up-and-coming generation

[0:12:26] Voice 6: And I really am in a position and grateful to be chief of Connecticut and as I've stated

[0:12:38] Voice 6: to my council, this is our work moving forward.

[0:12:43] Voice 6: This is us jointly doing work together and that I really believe in order for us to prosper,

[0:12:51] Voice 6: for our communities our surrounding communities we need to work together as one what we call that's

[0:12:57] Voice 6: much following um in our language working together as one in harmony and i really believe that the

[0:13:05] Voice 6: partnerships with galliano with the town of germanus with lady smith and nine or surrounding

[0:13:12] Voice 6: communities is really important to be able to move our community forward in a way that

[0:13:20] Voice 6: That is good that our next generation and our next leaders to model that leadership to our younger generation so they're picking up the pieces and they can take it.

[0:13:34] Voice 6: Or as my grandma said, she said, we take care of you so you take care of us when we get older.

[0:13:40] Voice 6: And that's the philosophy I carry with me, the integrity of my grandparents and how they raised me.

[0:13:48] Voice 6: so we've had a discussion um at our table in regards to the islands trust and salt spring

[0:13:57] Voice 6: and galliano and um the direction that i come with from my council i wrote it down and i changed this

[0:14:08] Voice 6: i don't know how many times right up to the second that i left an allocate because i really wanted

[0:14:14] Voice 6: my statement to have meaning

[0:14:16] Voice 6: and my statement to

[0:14:20] Voice 6: carry the

[0:14:21] Voice 6: integrity of my grandparents

[0:14:22] Voice 6: who as I mentioned

[0:14:24] Voice 6: I carry with me

[0:14:28] Voice 6: so I'll just

[0:14:29] Voice 6: read this to you

[0:14:32] Voice 6: esteemed members

[0:14:33] Voice 6: of the community, landowners

[0:14:35] Voice 6: and representatives of the

[0:14:37] Voice 6: island trust

[0:14:38] Voice 6: I humbly come before you today as

[0:14:41] Voice 6: the chief of the people

[0:14:42] Voice 6: people entrusted by my council to deliver a message of utmost importance it is with great

[0:14:52] Voice 6: sincerity that I declare our unwavering interest in accepting the returns of land that rightfully

[0:14:59] Voice 6: belong to the Nalapik Mistimo. I have some of our Nalapik council here our youth here to bear

[0:15:10] Voice 6: witness to the voice of our ancestors to establish that galliano island to establish that galliano

[0:15:17] Voice 6: island which penelope mustimo and elders have long regarded as unseated canal territory

[0:15:25] Voice 6: this is an integrable integral part of our traditional homeland it's our inherent right

[0:15:31] Voice 6: as recognized under Article 10, Article 18, Article 19, Article 26 and 27 of the

[0:15:41] Voice 6: United Nations Declaration of Rights of Indigenous People, to reclaim what has

[0:15:47] Voice 6: been ours for generations. We're not here to oppose or to be pawns in any game,

[0:15:54] Voice 6: rather we come in the spirit of partnership, good faith, seeking to

[0:16:01] Voice 6: work alongside landowners islands trust to ensure that canalicate mustimo mustimo have a strong

[0:16:10] Voice 6: foundation and a foothold on our ancestral lands our goal is not to disrupt or cause conflict but

[0:16:21] Voice 6: to establish a foundation of understanding and cooperation we recognize the importance of

[0:16:29] Voice 6: of maintaining a harmonious relationship

[0:16:32] Voice 6: with all stakeholders.

[0:16:35] Voice 6: And it is in this spirit that we make our declaration

[0:16:39] Voice 6: as Penelaket Mestimok today.

[0:16:43] Voice 6: As chief of the Penelaket Mestimok,

[0:16:45] Voice 6: I assure you that we are committed to working together

[0:16:50] Voice 6: in a manner that respects the interests

[0:16:53] Voice 6: of all parties involved.

[0:16:56] Voice 6: We are ready to engage in open and constructive dialogue

[0:17:00] Voice 6: love to find mutually beneficial solutions to build a future where penelope mistimo can thrive

[0:17:09] Voice 6: on the lands that have sustained us for generations working in partnership with all

[0:17:16] Voice 6: my council and i thank you for your time and the opportunity to share our perspective

[0:17:24] Voice 6: we look forward to the conversations that come ahead and collaborations that will shape the

[0:17:30] Voice 6: the path forward one grounded in reconciliation and the recognition of our inherent rights as

[0:17:38] Voice 6: the Penelope Mestimo. I appreciate the flowers I'm ever so grateful and my grandma taught me

[0:18:01] Voice 6: humility and working together that was one thing that she always said she's a product of

[0:18:10] Voice 6: of the Indian hospitals.

[0:18:13] Voice 6: My grandpa's a product of the residential schools.

[0:18:16] Voice 6: And I had one grandparent that said to protect me,

[0:18:21] Voice 6: he didn't want me to go to school,

[0:18:23] Voice 6: but at the same time, he knew it was important.

[0:18:25] Voice 6: My grandma saying,

[0:18:27] Voice 6: go, you gotta learn how to walk in two worlds.

[0:18:32] Voice 6: And for that, I'm grateful that my grandparents

[0:18:35] Voice 6: have taught me that.

[0:18:36] Voice 6: my background is social work where I met Jane when I worked at Swamish Nation as a social worker.

[0:18:50] Voice 6: My undergrad was child and youth care, my graduate degree is social work. I'm currently

[0:18:55] Voice 6: working on my master's in linguistics, a secondary master's in linguistics and

[0:19:02] Voice 6: And so for that, I'm humbled to meet every one of you guys, and I'm humbled to have my

[0:19:10] Voice 6: council by my side.

[0:19:11] Voice 6: And I just want to state that this isn't my agenda.

[0:19:17] Voice 6: This is a directive from my council and my community, our elders.

[0:19:41] Voice 14: Thank you very much.

[0:20:00] Voice 14: here and uh you know a place to communicate and share and uh

[0:20:06] Voice 15: and uh get together at least a few

[0:20:19] Voice 15: meetings because of

[0:20:19] Voice 14: scheduling and things you know i don't want to um talk again with my friends here

[0:20:26] Voice 14: you know we have some some work ahead of us for sure and you know thank you

[0:20:37] Voice 15: you know and everyone

[0:20:38] Voice 15: Thank you everyone for coming together and work together and there's some time

[0:20:59] Voice 14: to take some good time.

[0:21:02] Voice 14: Thank you everyone.

[0:21:04] Voice 14: In

[0:21:19] Voice 15: favor of

[0:21:41] Voice 11: the staff report in moving towards drafting some bylaws.

[0:21:47] Voice 11: It's a very comprehensive, forward-looking application.

[0:21:52] Voice 11: The one concern I have is how far the Trust Council would go against this time in approving

[0:22:01] Voice 11: something like potential rezoning for a cidery type of operation that may be a decade into

[0:22:09] Voice 11: the future.

[0:22:11] Voice 11: I don't know whether or not you need to approve that as a basic tenant, or can you just approve

[0:22:20] Voice 11: something like that in principle until you get some more or more information

[0:22:27] Voice 11: especially information on the water resources. So if there, I don't know what

[0:22:37] Voice 11: staff thinks about that or can you approve something in principle or do you

[0:22:42] Voice 11: have to approve the totality of the application now before you in terms of

[0:22:50] Voice 11: telling them the violence okay

[0:22:55] Voice 13: thank you i

[0:22:56] Voice 3: just uh i just wanted to thank chief jack and the

[0:23:01] Voice 3: counselors for coming over here and for your words i think they're very important and i think that

[0:23:09] Voice 3: it's this is a community ready here and

[0:23:17] Voice 13: did i see some more hands yes

[0:23:20] Voice 4: My name is Suzanne and I've been a resident of the North End for 34 years,

[0:23:27] Voice 4: which is nothing compared to so many people in the room.

[0:23:30] Voice 4: I too would just like to acknowledge the Penelope Chief and House that I thank you so much for attending today.

[0:23:37] Voice 4: It means a very great deal to us.

[0:23:40] Voice 4: I am a member of the Galliano Conservancy which controls or manages about 1,250 acres

[0:23:49] Voice 4: on Galliano and we have spoken to Ken Thomas and we continue to.

[0:23:54] Voice 4: We have an Indigenous Relations Committee and we very much want to move forward and

[0:24:01] Voice 4: do the right thing with you.

[0:24:02] Voice 4: Things were not properly done in the past and even though we own or manage 1,250 acres,

[0:24:09] Voice 4: Not one single acre was ceded or surrendered in law by the Indigenous Entitled Owners.

[0:24:16] Voice 4: So we now accommodate Indigenous people with a hunting program that we're planning to expand to other properties.

[0:24:24] Voice 4: And we hope to have a relationship with Chief and Council going forward.

[0:24:28] Voice 4: So I just, with deep respect, thanks. Thanks for coming.

[0:24:37] Voice 13: anyone else like to address the trust committee today okay uh well thank

[0:24:47] Voice 10: you and yes yeah i mean

[0:24:49] Voice 10: we're that's the um that portion finished um there's nobody else um i just personally wanted

[0:24:57] Voice 10: to thank um q jack and council for coming and kelly and i can see michelle's in the room here

[0:25:05] Voice 10: somewhere um yeah i mean i think what you're saying here came quite right i mean i think the

[0:25:13] Voice 10: time the time has come and um and there appears to be an appetite on everybody's side

[0:25:22] Voice 2: to move

[0:25:23] Voice 10: together with cooperation and um yeah i just i really appreciate you taking the time out of your

[0:25:29] Voice 10: schedule to be here we appreciate everybody doing that and um you know it's a great thing for this

[0:25:36] Voice 10: community to see um there's a lot going on probably in the background there's a lot you

[0:25:42] Voice 10: know the adoption of direct windows sort of things coming through the system um we're going to see a

[0:25:48] Voice 10: lot of changes in probably what we consider a very short period of time and um we really appreciate

[0:25:55] Voice 10: your words towards um cooperation and respect so i thank you for that uh

[0:26:04] Voice 11: chair uh is there a way

[0:26:07] Voice 11: that the trust report could include chief jack's statement in something like the active page

[0:26:15] Voice 11: because i think it is far it is very very worthwhile for all islanders to see that

[0:26:22] Voice 11: no

[0:26:22] Voice 10: that's a good point i would certainly imagine why

[0:26:26] Voice 10: not we could ask if we could have a copy of

[0:26:29] Voice 10: your um of your statement and certainly to do that but i know staff would probably like a copy

[0:26:44] Voice 13: So just while we're in pause here, I've lost connection, I'm on the

[0:26:48] Voice 13: OSB, I don't have Lisa's

[0:26:52] Voice 13: phone number.

[0:26:52] Voice 13: Can you text her and let her know that we've just had to switch over?

[0:26:56] Voice 1: Yeah,

[0:26:56] Voice 13: well that's why I asked if it was better.

[0:27:00] Voice 13: It's supposed to be better but it's not that much better.

[0:27:06] Voice 13: that's okay um okay so i think uh we can absolutely have a break in a bit but let's

[0:27:13] Voice 13: get through a couple more of these uh business items here we have the um

[0:27:18] Voice 13: we have the minutes of may 14th for adoption here pages three to seven any corrections to

[0:27:27] Voice 13: those minutes for my review okay i'll take it by general consent we'll adopt them as presented

[0:27:32] Voice 13: and we have the resolutions without meeting report dating June page 8

[0:27:39] Voice 13: anything questions on that no no advisory planning Commission minutes a

[0:27:45] Voice 13: day and then on to the follow-up action list starting on page 9 and I'll turn to

[0:27:50] Voice 13: staff to see if there's anything update us on there no

[0:27:54] Voice 5: there isn't but I'm happy

[0:27:55] Voice 5: to answer any questions the LTC may have okay

[0:27:58] Voice 13: and trustees any questions on the

[0:28:01] Voice 13: follow-up after the report and

[0:28:03] Voice 10: then for me

[0:28:03] Voice 6: uh not for me okay

[0:28:09] Voice 13: uh still locations uh now

[0:28:20] Voice 13: should we take a break and then come back to the application section does that sound good

[0:28:23] Voice 13: yeah

[0:28:24] Voice 10: so

[0:28:26] Voice 13: let's take a break um 15 minutes does that sound good that sounds great

[0:28:30] Voice 8: okay

[0:28:31] Voice 13: excellent so we will uh we will um pause for 15 minutes and then we will come back

[0:28:42] Voice 7: See you later. Have a great summer, Anthony.

[0:28:44] Voice 7: Thank you.

[0:28:45] Voice 7: Take care.

[0:30:07] Thank you

[0:30:08] Voice 13: so much.

[0:30:35] Voice 13: Okay, folks, I'd like to call the meeting back to order, please.

[0:30:44] Voice 13: Okay, we're recording again.

[0:30:46] Voice 13: So we'll call the meeting back to order, and we are on applications and referrals.

[0:30:53] Voice 13: We have a rezoning application and staff report starting on page 11.

[0:31:01] Voice 13: And I'll turn it over to Planner Stockdale.

[0:31:04] Voice 5: Thank you, Chair.

[0:31:05] Voice 5: Sure. So the purpose of the staff report is to provide a summary of the new rezoning application

[0:31:14] Voice 5: the LTC has received and there is also a recommendation there for the LTC's consideration. The application

[0:31:24] Voice 5: would be amend the land use by-law, Galeano land use by-law and the applicant has requested

[0:31:30] Voice 5: a number of proposed uses, and those are listed on page 11 of the agenda. That is a works yard, a contractor's workshop and yard,

[0:31:40] Voice 5: storage and sale of gravel, soil, and abrogates, sawmilling, cleaning, and manufacturing of wood products, and the production and sales of cider, beer, and wine.

[0:31:51] Voice 5: This is approximately an 8 hectare parcel and it's currently zoned rural too.

[0:32:00] Voice 5: The applicant is currently using the land for farm use, especially tree or fruit tree

[0:32:09] Voice 5: farming and has a temporary sawmill.

[0:32:12] Voice 5: There's no dwelling unit on the lot but there is a driveway that bisects the property that

[0:32:20] Voice 5: access to the farm area and on the eastern edge of the property is a riparian stream

[0:32:28] Voice 5: and a wetland area. The applicant has provided a letter that's attached to the staff report

[0:32:36] Voice 5: and a rationale. The applicant is hoping to, if the application is successful, to have

[0:32:43] Voice 5: a phased approach with the proposed uses. Phase one would be the

[0:32:50] Voice 5: implementation to construct storage phase for the storage and sale of gravel

[0:32:58] Voice 5: soil and aggregates within three years and then potentially within one

[0:33:03] Voice 5: year a small-scale commercial sawmilling with that use increasing over a

[0:33:10] Voice 5: 10-year period. And then phase two, which would potentially be within 7 to 10 years,

[0:33:16] Voice 5: would be a cidery, and cidery would use the produce grown on the property. The applicant

[0:33:23] Voice 5: has provided a rationale stating that this application of proposed uses would allow for

[0:33:31] Voice 5: the continued operation of their excavation and septic business more efficiently. There

[0:33:37] Voice 5: There is currently a zoning scarcity for these proposed or these intended uses, so therefore

[0:33:44] Voice 5: that's why they're requesting these uses.

[0:33:48] Voice 5: Also, for the purpose of small, small, small milling on the property, it would be beneficial

[0:33:55] Voice 5: for Galliano, rather than taking the lumber off-island, to keep it on-island to process

[0:34:01] Voice 5: process those logs locally but also provide some job opportunities potentially or an economic

[0:34:07] Voice 5: boost.

[0:34:10] Voice 5: There is a site plan attached to page 13 of the agenda, please disregard that, that was

[0:34:15] Voice 5: an initial site plan and I mistakenly added that in, so you can disregard that site plan.

[0:34:22] Voice 5: In terms of the official community plan, the subject property is currently designated rural

[0:34:31] Voice 5: and those principal uses are residential and agriculture. So currently it doesn't

[0:34:37] Voice 5: highlight any type of light industrial uses so that's something the LTC has to

[0:34:41] Voice 5: turn their mind to. So an OCP amendment may be required. I did want to highlight

[0:34:47] Voice 5: some of the OCP policies that the LTC should be aware of. Those are that

[0:34:54] Voice 5: is policy 5.4c it states that light industrial uses shall be

[0:35:00] Voice 5: permitted through site-specific zoning and subject to a development permit and

[0:35:05] Voice 5: then it includes a number of guidelines the LTC may want to turn their minds to

[0:35:09] Voice 5: for resulting applications those are on page 15 of the agenda so that's

[0:35:14] Voice 5: something that we'd be highlighting or going over if the application proceeds

[0:35:18] Voice 5: seeds. Also, policy 5.4G, the LTC should consider implementing regulations that would limit

[0:35:27] Voice 5: noise impacts generated by industrial uses and activities. To date, we have received

[0:35:32] Voice 5: one letter from a neighbour, I don't know if it's direct neighbour, but a close neighbour

[0:35:38] Voice 5: to the subject property, and they have listed, or they've expressed concerns of potential

[0:35:42] Voice 5: noise so that's something that we also have to keep in mind as I mentioned

[0:35:49] Voice 5: previously the property is zoned rule 2 so land use bylaw amendment would be

[0:35:55] Voice 5: required to permit those light industrial uses and also the cider use

[0:36:02] Voice 5: the next step with the applications proceeds is for staff to draft a terms

[0:36:08] Voice 5: of reference and this is a letter that outlines items that the applicant needs

[0:36:16] Voice 5: to provide for the application to proceed and some of those items I've

[0:36:21] Voice 5: listed and the terms of reference can also include additional

[0:36:25] Voice 5: information but we'd be requesting a professional site plan, a groundwater

[0:36:32] Voice 5: water assessment and also an ecological overview report by RPBIO. There has

[0:36:39] Voice 5: there is a list of referral agencies and also First Nations that if this

[0:36:46] Voice 5: application proceeds we'd like to send out information to these agencies and

[0:36:51] Voice 5: First Nations for initial comments. I did receive an email from a staff member

[0:36:56] Voice 5: from the CRD and they've requested that the CRD integrated water service area

[0:37:02] Voice 5: and also the Southern Gold Island Community Economic Sustainability

[0:37:07] Voice 5: Commission be added to the list of agencies in this list. On page 18 of the

[0:37:15] Voice 5: staff report I've just highlighted some proposed impacts from the uses and

[0:37:24] Voice 5: And the LTC can read over those, but primarily the potential impacts of the noise and also any type of visual impacts.

[0:37:36] Voice 5: Those could be addressed by increased setbacks and also some type of vegetation requirement or landscaping requirements.

[0:37:46] Voice 5: In terms of the cidery use, there is a number of concerns as well.

[0:37:51] Voice 5: water use, we need further information on that, potential for increased traffic to

[0:37:57] Voice 5: the area, noise and other issues the LTC may want to consider. So staff have made

[0:38:05] Voice 5: the recommendation to, it's on page 11 of the agenda, the recommendation that the

[0:38:14] Voice 5: LTC direct staff to proceed with the application and to prepare draft

[0:38:18] Voice 5: bylaws. I just want to mention to the LTC that staff had made this recommendation

[0:38:24] Voice 5: as putting together draft bylaws allowed not only the LTC but stakeholders,

[0:38:30] Voice 5: agencies for stations and also the applicant to have an idea of what the

[0:38:34] Voice 5: zone could look like or what the OCP designation may look like and it's used

[0:38:40] Voice 5: as a foundation for discussion. So even though the LTC may put this motion

[0:38:44] Voice 5: forward it doesn't necessarily mean yes it's a green light it just continues

[0:38:49] Voice 5: that discussion the LTC may also consider other alternatives those are on

[0:38:56] Voice 5: page 18 of the agenda the first one is to request further

[0:39:02] Voice 5: information from the applicant so if the LTC believes they want to have further

[0:39:07] Voice 1: information

[0:39:07] Voice 5: before any type of draft bylaws are put together, there is a

[0:39:15] Voice 5: motion there the LTC could consider. The LTC may also consider sending this

[0:39:20] Voice 5: rezoning application to the Galliano Advisory Planning Commission for initial

[0:39:25] Voice 5: comment and there also is a alternative to deny the application. So I'm going to

[0:39:32] Voice 5: leave it at that and I the applicant is here so if you if the LTC has any questions great

[0:39:41] Voice 13: so

[0:39:43] Voice 13: thanks for coming and if you is there anything you'd like to add and then I'll

[0:39:47] Voice 13: open the floor for questions from trustees no I think I'm happy to answer any questions

[0:39:53] Voice 13: okay trustees questions comments sure

[0:39:59] Voice 4: all right

[0:40:01] Voice 6: thank you for all the work on this

[0:40:05] Voice 6: I am feeling, like proceeding with this application, I'm still questioning whether or not we are

[0:40:11] Voice 6: ready for draft bylaws because I'm having a hard time seeing the scope of the development,

[0:40:19] Voice 6: the proposed development.

[0:40:22] Voice 6: What I mean by that is like, you know, how much cider has been made, how much, I mean

[0:40:27] Voice 6: there's no way to get an exact estimate of that, but I think there's a lot of questions

[0:40:30] Voice 6: around the water uses, especially the intensive water uses. This property is in a water management

[0:40:39] Voice 6: area and it is in proximity to a water service area too. So water is going to come up a lot

[0:40:47] Voice 6: I think. And if we had a little more information around the uses, in particular, I'm sorry

[0:40:58] Voice 6: Yeah, before I get into that, I had a question for Planner Stockville.

[0:41:16] Voice 6: With a 291 covenant, could that be used for seasonal restrictions on water pertaining

[0:41:24] Voice 6: to exterior maintenance of buildings, structures, landscaping, or including any car surfaces

[0:41:32] Voice 6: if there are any, or vehicle washing?

[0:41:35] Voice 5: Absolutely, a section 219 covenant would be the perfect tool for that, where it goes beyond

[0:41:42] Voice 5: just regulating land use or density, generally LTC in the past has used section 219 covenants

[0:41:50] Voice 5: to do that, to provide more detail, more restrictions, that would be a great tool.

[0:41:56] Voice 5: one thing the LTC can consider is also restricting any uses by a section 219

[0:42:04] Voice 5: covenant until such time the applicant has provided further information

[0:42:08] Voice 5: regarding say like a groundwater assessment whatever other assessments to

[0:42:13] Voice 5: ensure that there's not a detrimental impact of this use so section 219's

[0:42:20] Voice 5: generally are a well-used tool with these zoning applications yeah yeah

[0:42:26] Voice 6: i'm not sure how to ask for

[0:42:28] Voice 6: more information around the water do you have a well in the property not yet

[0:42:31] Voice 6: not yet so it's kind

[0:42:32] Voice 6: of they're still preliminary right yeah um is there another question yeah uh is there a statutory

[0:42:44] Voice 6: requirement for giving the public or adjacent neighbors notice about design

[0:42:50] Voice 5: uh there will be

[0:42:51] Voice 5: as part of the public hearing there'll be a requirement there the LTC also has

[0:42:59] Voice 5: the ability to request stop to notify neighboring property owners earlier in the

[0:43:04] Voice 5: process if you'd like we could also hold a community information meeting

[0:43:09] Voice 5: specifically regarding this application to gather initial information from

[0:43:13] Voice 5: neighbors I was also appreciative of the neighbor who was also written that

[0:43:20] Voice 5: correspondence I think we received last night or early this morning it's really

[0:43:24] Voice 5: important to receive these comments early in the process so the LTC has the

[0:43:29] Voice 5: ability to take those comments into consideration from the very start rather

[0:43:33] Voice 5: than later in the process when we're at public hearing we've done all that work

[0:43:37] Voice 5: and it's great for the applicant to also hear that as well so having a community

[0:43:41] Voice 5: information meeting would be a great idea and then specifically

[0:43:45] Voice 6: inviting those

[0:43:46] Voice 5: neighbors in that area because

[0:43:48] Voice 6: i'm kind of leaving that way i think the having the community aware of

[0:43:52] Voice 6: the scope i'm in the property i have a really uh pretty good idea that some of the details

[0:43:57] Voice 6: that maybe are not in the application but if the neighboring uh the community is more like i said

[0:44:05] Voice 6: aware of what what the whole scope of this project would be then it might be it might get more

[0:44:20] Voice 6: support i think overall and i think that might be a good way to proceed with perhaps a one house

[0:44:26] or a

[0:44:28] Voice 6: community permission meeting um because i think if the public is unaware of what

[0:44:34] Voice 6: how much water cidery cidery could use there might be speculation which might uh

[0:44:45] Voice 6: the complexity just

[0:44:49] Voice 13: procedurally there's no particular limit on the timing of a

[0:44:58] Voice 13: community information meeting is that correct we could have that before first

[0:45:01] Voice 13: reading we can have it after first reading absolutely so there's that's pretty

[0:45:05] Voice 13: pretty much wide open as long as it's not post public hearing right absolutely

[0:45:09] Voice 5: you can have it in person you can have it online as well online may be a great

[0:45:13] Voice 5: option to have say an hour or two at a time that would be best for community members maybe not in the middle of a Wednesday or something maybe for an hour or two we could do

[0:45:25] Voice 13: something like that.

[0:45:25] Voice 13: Yeah

[0:45:25] Voice 5: and we could

[0:45:25] Voice 13: consider maybe even having more than one opportunity. Yeah absolutely.

[0:45:31] Voice 13: Because some folks were curing the days and aren't available to curing the days and vice versa.

[0:45:36] Voice 6: Yeah I think that at, I'm not sure what point in the process this would happen but I would think of the

[0:45:43] Voice 6: water management plan would probably be considering it's in a water management

[0:45:50] Voice 6: area and proximity to the water surface area that the CRD would be interested to

[0:45:58] Voice 6: know what those water uses would be it is it's not right on a shoreline but it is close so

[0:46:05] Voice 6: there are best practices that need to be observed for salt water

[0:46:09] Voice 6: nutrition for instance so i don't know if that would that be added to the toilet for me that

[0:46:18] Voice 6: would have our woman

[0:46:18] Voice 5: for water management plan in the play i guess the hydrogeologist

[0:46:22] Voice 5: yeah so we can get that earlier rather than later but it would be perhaps we could ask the applicant

[0:46:28] Voice 5: when they are thinking of drilling a well if it's earlier rather than later so we can

[0:46:33] gather that information

[0:46:35] Voice 6: yes also water licensing as well which could take up to two years

[0:46:41] Voice 6: So for these reasons, these questions, I think that would be why I would be in favor of proceeding

[0:46:50] Voice 6: with this application, but I'm not in favor of draft by-laws at the moment.

[0:46:57] Voice 10: Yeah.

[0:46:59] Voice 10: Thanks, Lisa.

[0:47:00] Voice 10: You brought up some of the points that I was going to talk to.

[0:47:05] Voice 10: I took the opportunity to meet the applicant on site, and it's a bit of a unique lot because

[0:47:13] Voice 10: there's a power line running down on the side of it so you have a significant buffer area between

[0:47:17] Voice 10: the neighbors and the lot itself. The lot directly above it is currently being there's an application

[0:47:24] Voice 10: for rezoning on that so that would be forest industrial above it and right at the very bottom

[0:47:29] Voice 10: of course is the BC Hydro transmission yard right so when I look at the use I go okay that this is

[0:47:39] Voice 10: actually this works right but then i you know as you sort of dig into the application a little bit

[0:47:48] Voice 10: you go okay what what is what is you know um production sale of cider and beer what does

[0:47:55] Voice 10: that look like right um is it you know small microbrewery or is it labatt's brewery right

[0:48:01] Voice 10: i mean it's there's a there's a lot of detail between those two right and so i think getting

[0:48:08] Voice 10: some direction from the applicant on on the uses but not just the uses but the

[0:48:13] Voice 10: siting of those uses as well would be extremely helpful so that we knew where

[0:48:19] Voice 10: the the gravel sales was so you could say okay is it is it sufficiently

[0:48:23] Voice 10: buffered is it how much increased traffic is that going to include are we

[0:48:28] Voice 10: bringing in gravel barges or things like that or is it for you know for

[0:48:35] Voice 10: the contractor's personal use in a sense for his business right um so there's there's a few details

[0:48:42] Voice 10: that that um i think the applicant could could definitely clarify um as we move ahead um like

[0:48:51] Voice 10: i said the location of this property and and the buffers around it certainly i have no problem with

[0:49:00] Voice 10: the the application in general it's just there's a bit of detail to go here

[0:49:06] Voice 10: certainly water issues around the production of beer I don't think it's

[0:49:12] Voice 10: you sort of looked at I looked up that difference between a cidery and a brewery

[0:49:16] Voice 10: there's a significant difference there cider uses a minimal water in comparison

[0:49:20] Voice 10: to what a production of beer does so maybe and if the applicant wants to

[0:49:26] Voice 10: sort of speak to a few of those things now. It certainly might clarify our path

[0:49:31] Voice 10: forward here a bit, right?

[0:49:34] Voice 9: Yeah, for sure. So I've talked to a few neighbors in that, I guess you say

[0:49:38] Voice 9: brewery, and right away that little bit of concern. So I actually had just added that to the

[0:49:46] Voice 9: application just to kind of keep my options open. I thought at some point we

[0:49:49] Voice 9: might want to run some smaller runs of beer, but it's really not what I kind of

[0:49:56] anticipated as

[0:49:57] Voice 9: my very use there. So at this point, I'm kind of like,

[0:50:02] Voice 9: aside from that's really what I want to do there, that's kind of been the plan and

[0:50:08] Voice 9: yeah, I'm not intent at all on having a brewery down there, I was just thinking it would be great to have the option to do some small runs of beer from time to time.

[0:50:17] Voice 9: That was a point of contention for people, I'm happy to remove that from the application

[0:50:21] Voice 9: because I, you know, that may never happen. You know, we did want to go that route.

[0:50:30] Voice 9: And in terms of

[0:50:34] Voice 9: traffic on the road, yeah, I think, so I think what we would do is, and the sawmilling stuff, close to the public, so that's, you know, just myself and my vehicles, employees, possibly people actually involved in the operation there, you know, going to and from, yeah, not over the job, not parking, logistically there, so that's not, that's never been my plan.

[0:51:27] Voice 9: Oh,

[0:51:29] Voice 17: I guess, you know, so there would be

[0:51:30] Voice 9: some increased traffic, probably not huge, but

[0:51:36] Voice 9: associated with the sidery, like farm gate sales, basically that's what I would like

[0:51:41] Voice 9: to be able to do, is, you know, have sort of like a tasting room or something at the

[0:51:46] Voice 9: top, close to the road, and provide, you know, a good parking area, because there is space

[0:51:50] Voice 9: up there for that, and, yeah, have people come to and from site to buy, you know, farm

[0:51:57] Voice 9: products. But otherwise, like the other light industrial uses, that would be close.

[0:52:07] Voice 10: Yeah, so thanks for that. That certainly, in my mind, clarifies a few things. I think it sort of...

[0:52:15] Voice 9: One more thing with the cider. So the actual cider that you produce

[0:52:23] Voice 9: has basically no water going into the product. You obviously have to use water to water the orchards,

[0:52:30] Voice 9: But that would be coming from catchment ponds, I've already dug one small pond and well it's

[0:52:35] Voice 9: significant but I'd like to dig at least one more good sized pond and then you're using

[0:52:42] Voice 9: that for watering the orchards which is you know surface water that you're collecting

[0:52:46] Voice 9: and then the only well watered that would be washing vessels and this sort of stuff

[0:52:54] Voice 9: you know.

[0:52:54] Voice 9: So I think it would be fairly minimally impact but I guess we'd have to have a study or something

[0:53:00] Voice 9: anyway that was kind of managed.

[0:53:12] Voice 2: if i may

[0:53:14] Voice 5: i've been kind of drafting a bit of a motion that the ltc may want to consider it

[0:53:20] Voice 5: sounds like the ltc really would like more information at this point before moving forward

[0:53:24] Voice 5: so perhaps the alternative motion number one where it states that the galliano ltc requests

[0:53:31] Voice 5: of the applicant or submit to the islands trust information as discussed at the july 9th ltc

[0:53:39] Voice 5: meaning and specifically address or provide the scale or information on the scale of the proposed

[0:53:45] Voice 5: uses a business plan for the light industrial uses and cidery and um and information on a water

[0:53:53] Voice 5: management plan yeah

[0:53:56] Voice 10: there's a couple other things i wouldn't mind

[0:53:58] Voice 10: seeing in there um timing of those

[0:54:00] Voice 10: uses so we've talked it's been talked about in the application you're you know you were intending

[0:54:05] Voice 10: Obviously, I do everything, start everything tomorrow, and a site plan of where the contractor's shop is and where those things are cited so that when we do put the information to the public, they have a better sort of plan of what they're commenting on.

[0:54:25] Voice 10: So it's almost like we need to have sort of a mini community information meeting or a LDC information meeting prior to going to draft bylaws.

[0:54:35] Voice 10: does that sound reasonable yeah

[0:54:37] Voice 9: I think so and so you know for what you're

[0:54:40] Voice 9: asking to have a site plan and you know location of where these buildings are going to be and stuff

[0:54:47] Voice 9: like is it going to have to be surveyed or are we talking roughly where they're

[0:54:51] Voice 9: going or what I'm

[0:54:54] Voice 10: good with you know approximate locations I mean yeah it's

[0:54:57] Voice 10: it's you give us a site plan of approximate locations and I think later

[0:55:03] Voice 10: on in the process right I believe we go to getting into the real I mean I don't

[0:55:09] Voice 10: think it's fair for me to ask you to spend a pile of money on surveying and

[0:55:13] Voice 10: and that prior to even going to that community information or draft bylaw so

[0:55:18] Voice 10: that at least this would give a good idea for what what the public needs to

[0:55:22] Voice 10: comment on how are you with that I

[0:55:25] Voice 6: totally agree I think it's the set of

[0:55:27] Voice 6: awareness I think for the public yeah what's happening then I'll be okay

[0:55:35] Voice 10: how

[0:55:37] Voice 10: is that motion going down there thank you great

[0:55:39] Voice 16: so

[0:55:42] Voice 10: just I will just from my

[0:55:43] Voice 10: point of view is there anything else it that just coming up in your mind leave

[0:55:50] Voice 10: or anybody's prior to us or putting a motion forward I just

[0:55:58] Voice 13: had a question

[0:55:59] Voice 13: about you sort of have some ideas for following may be included in a terms of

[0:56:06] Voice 13: reference it seems to me that most of what I've a lot of what I've just heard

[0:56:12] Voice 13: is so it is covered in them in these proposed terms of reference can we sort

[0:56:17] Voice 13: of use those as a basis we

[0:56:20] Voice 5: could I mean

[0:56:22] Voice 13: some of some of it it's a bit some bits

[0:56:24] Voice 13: maybe a little

[0:56:25] Voice 5: phased

[0:56:27] Voice 13: out because some of it's a little bit more intensive

[0:56:29] Voice 13: in terms of

[0:56:30] Voice 5: work. We're getting

[0:56:32] Voice 10: really prescriptive. We go into the terms of reference. We're making

[0:56:40] Voice 10: the applicant spend a chunk of money.

[0:56:41] Voice 10: Well,

[0:56:42] Voice 13: I'm just wondering in terms of the site plan, I'm just thinking exactly that

[0:56:53] Voice 13: about spending the money and stuff, but is it reasonable to ask for a general site plan

[0:57:02] Voice 13: If we're planning to ask down the road for a professionally prepared site plan, does it make sense to sort of get them to do the work?

[0:57:09] Voice 13: I'm going to take any advice in public hearing first before we get to that.

[0:57:12] Voice 13: Sure, sure, sure.

[0:57:17] Voice 6: Yeah, just to piece that up more.

[0:57:21] Voice 6: I think if we knew where the septic field was for sure, I think that's an ask of the community, the placement of the septic field.

[0:57:29] Voice 6: So how do we... I would be prepared to take a general, not a full survey plan at this moment because the project is going to change a lot.

[0:57:44] Voice 6: We're still working on it.

[0:57:46] Voice 10: Fair.

[0:57:47] Voice 10: We may find, in going through this process, that the applicant is going to be speaking to the neighbours, obviously.

[0:57:55] Voice 10: There's some neighbours here. He's going to be having some back and forth.

[0:57:58] Voice 10: and he may come back to us and say hey we've altered something to suit the neighborhood right

[0:58:02] Voice 10: we've done that so we don't want to get too prescriptive on that yeah fair enough yeah

[0:58:06] Voice 16: i

[0:58:06] Voice 10: agree okay

[0:58:08] Voice 5: i'm

[0:58:10] Voice 10: prepared for a motion if we have them i

[0:58:12] Voice 5: will quickly so we can say that the galley

[0:58:17] Voice 5: on the island local trust committee requested the applicant for pl rzn 2024-003 submitted to

[0:58:25] Voice 5: the island's trust information regarding the scale of the proposed uses business plan for the light

[0:58:33] Voice 5: industrial uses and cidery um information on a ground sorry information on the ground water

[0:58:42] Voice 5: management plan information on timing slash phase of approach and a site plan for a detailed site

[0:58:52] Voice 5: site plan would that work

[0:58:55] Voice 16: because it doesn't have to

[0:58:56] Voice 5: be a survey by a surveyor but it should

[0:58:59] Voice 5: have some type of professional standard and we see those site plans related development

[0:59:04] Voice 5: permits and so forth so yeah I'm sure there's members of the community who are quite savvy

[0:59:09] Voice 5: with putting together site plans so it doesn't have to be a survey but something professionally

[0:59:15] Voice 5: done yeah we could nix that the end of that motion there but we could just say a detailed

[0:59:23] Voice 5: site plan yeah

[0:59:24] Voice 13: is

[0:59:27] Voice 2: that sounding exactly yeah yeah i'm good for that yeah yeah i'm fine with that

[0:59:35] Voice 2: yeah all right did you say you moved that yeah

[0:59:40] Voice 13: okay second uh any further discussion

[0:59:44] Voice 13: i'll call the question and all those in favor and that carries okay thank you very much

[0:59:51] Voice 5: um what i'll

[0:59:53] Voice 5: I'll work with the applicant to help put together that information and then when we have some of this

[1:00:00] Voice 5: coming back at that time staff will draft a staff report with also an option to schedule a community

[1:00:07] Voice 5: information meeting so we won't do that yet but that will be coming up

[1:00:10] Voice 13: once you've got that yeah

[1:00:12] Voice 13: great that makes sense to me okay so let's move on we have the groundwater sustainability project

[1:00:19] Voice 13: staff report uh starting on page 28

[1:00:22] Voice 5: and

[1:00:24] Voice 13: over to planner stockville thank

[1:00:26] Voice 5: you jerry peterson again

[1:00:28] Voice 5: This staff report is to summarize the project to date and also recommend scheduling a public hearing for this project.

[1:00:37] Voice 5: So as a reminder, this project started back in February of 2021 when a project charter was endorsed.

[1:00:45] Voice 5: There was an information webinar held in 2021 and also an in-person community information held in 2022.

[1:00:53] Voice 5: Since that time staff in the LTC have been working on tweaking the bylaws and there is

[1:01:01] Voice 5: a list or sorry a summary of bylaws 284 and 283 in the agenda.

[1:01:12] Voice 5: One amendment that I want to highlight is exemption P and that would be an exemption

[1:01:20] Voice 5: exemption that would not require a development permit, where land owned by a person with

[1:01:27] Voice 5: federal Indigenous status living in their traditional territory with proof of Indigenous

[1:01:33] Voice 5: family lineage. Staff have met initially with the Penelakut tribe, also the Coast Salish

[1:01:39] Voice 5: peoples of Galliano, and also members of an Indigenous family with historical and cultural

[1:01:44] Voice 5: cultural ties to Gamayano Island and staff feel like it may be the time to send out those

[1:01:50] Voice 5: formal referral of requests so we can get those formal comments not only from nations

[1:01:57] Voice 5: but perhaps sub-agencies too, specifically the CRD as they had some questions. Staff

[1:02:06] Voice 5: have recommended a public hearing to be scheduled for September 10th 2024 but thinking more

[1:02:14] Voice 5: more on that, staff would recommend perhaps scheduling the public hearing for the October

[1:02:21] Voice 5: LTC meeting and then staff coming back at the September meeting with a summary of the

[1:02:26] Voice 5: proposed responses we've had to date just so the LTC and the community and also nations

[1:02:31] Voice 5: have time to review what we've received to date. So staff would like to amend the recommendation

[1:02:38] Voice 5: that the public hearing for the groundwater sustainability project be scheduled for

[1:02:44] Voice 5: or, sorry, I don't have that actual date right now.

[1:02:50] Voice 5: I

[1:02:51] Voice 4: would also like to say

[1:02:52] Voice 4: that there will be a community

[1:02:53] Voice 5: information meeting held

[1:02:55] Voice 5: prior to the public hearing,

[1:02:57] Voice 5: and I hope that our senior freshwater specialist

[1:03:01] Voice 5: and also a senior planner,

[1:03:03] Voice 5: Norissa Chadwick will attend that

[1:03:04] Voice 5: because they both worked heavily on this project,

[1:03:07] Voice 5: so they'll be able to answer any technical questions.

[1:03:10] Voice 5: And I'm just gonna pull up that date.

[1:03:12] Voice 5: Would

[1:03:12] Voice 10: we set that community information date today,

[1:03:14] Voice 10: or would we yeah it

[1:03:17] Voice 5: would be right before so what we can actually amend the motion again and say

[1:03:21] Voice 5: that uh that the then a community information meeting and public hearing for the project be

[1:03:27] Voice 5: scheduled for october i'm just getting that date right now october 8th 2024.

[1:03:40] Voice 13: yeah thank you for

[1:03:41] Voice 13: that i was actually just thinking about the referral leave time to

[1:03:44] Voice 13: september feeling like

[1:03:45] Voice 13: up a little bit tight so i appreciate the recommendations um trustees questions comments

[1:03:52] Voice 13: uh

[1:03:54] Voice 6: i think that uh our stock bills recommendations put this application really good for me

[1:04:00] Voice 6: i think he is in a lengthy conversation with our ltc and i think having a another referral period

[1:04:07] Voice 6: where item p is highlighted would be very fruitful and

[1:04:15] Voice 13: as far as that as far as that goes you don't

[1:04:18] Voice 13: that to be in the motion that you're just going to do as a matter of course great yeah

[1:04:25] Voice 10: for me um

[1:04:27] Voice 10: i'm ready this has been staff has been working on this hard for a long time and i agree with lisa

[1:04:33] Voice 10: that i think we're in a good place with this one now it's it's a good time to do that second

[1:04:37] Voice 10: referral and then get back to the community information meeting and public hearing so i'm

[1:04:42] Voice 10: ready to put forward the motion i move that the public the community information meeting and public

[1:04:50] Voice 10: hearing for the groundwater sustainability project be scheduled for october the 8th 2024

[1:04:54] Voice 10: So moved, seconded, 52nded. Any further discussion?

[1:04:59] Voice 1: Not seeing

[1:05:00] Voice 13: any, I'll call the question. All those in favour?

[1:05:03] Voice 13: And motion carries.

[1:05:05] Voice 13: Thank you for that.

[1:05:09] Voice 13: This brings us on to the work program reports.

[1:05:13] Voice 13: On page 51 we have the active projects report. Anything from staff on that?

[1:05:20] Voice 13: No, not at this time.

[1:05:22] Voice 13: Any questions from trustees?

[1:05:26] Computer's slow.

[1:05:28] Voice 6: I'm trying to cut down on paper, as long as I'm doing it electronically,

[1:05:32] Voice 13: it's a struggle.

[1:05:35] Voice 13: It depends which mode you have it in. I've got the one where you punch the number in on the side and it takes you to that page because I get tired of that.

[1:05:43] Voice 13: Okay, so nothing on that

[1:05:44] Voice 13: report? No.

[1:05:46] Voice 13: Okay, then we have the future project support on page 5253. Anything from staff or trustees on that? Also no?

[1:05:55] Voice 10: Just on the Wise Island by-law review, did we ever hear back from the APC in regards to Wise Island?

[1:06:03] Voice 10: I know they were studying the Gambier Island by-law.

[1:06:08] Voice 5: We did receive that email and I'm going to have to follow up with the chair of the APC because I believe there was a letter.

[1:06:19] Voice 5: Yes, I'll have to follow up with that.

[1:06:21] Voice 13: Appreciate it. Okay, thank you.

[1:06:25] Voice 13: Okie-dokie then. Applications report, we'll get a verbal update.

[1:06:33] Voice 5: Yes, so the reason why the applications report is not included in the agenda is that now that we have this new application processing software,

[1:06:43] Voice 5: we're still trying to figure out the reporting feature.

[1:06:47] Voice 5: progress so I don't have any specific updates for applications but if the LTC

[1:06:54] Voice 5: has any specific questions I can do my best to answer them now or I could

[1:06:58] Voice 5: follow up by email in the next couple of days if there's one or two applications

[1:07:02] Voice 5: that you'd like an update on well

[1:07:04] Voice 10: just for me personally in light of Chief

[1:07:08] Voice 10: Patrick being here today and where we're at with because I know we we had the

[1:07:13] Voice 10: motion to prepare draft violence for those um where we were sort of at in that process

[1:07:17] Voice 5: or district law 85 and 86 yeah so now that we've heard from chief jack i think that's a

[1:07:22] Voice 5: a big piece of the puzzle that we've been waiting for so as i mentioned to an applicant actually

[1:07:27] Voice 5: during the break that um what staff i was for staff will be connecting with the penelope tribe

[1:07:34] Voice 5: staff to perhaps get a formal letter just stating that and then we will bring back the application

[1:07:41] Voice 5: now with the proposal of the Malacca tribe receiving that land. So I think that's a big piece and we can start to move forward with those two rezoning applications.

[1:07:52] Voice 5: Okay, thank you.

[1:07:55] Voice 13: That's great stuff, very exciting. We have the trustee and local expense report dated May. Any questions on that?

[1:08:09] Voice 7: Nope.

[1:08:09] Voice 7: And

[1:08:10] Voice 13: we have our Adopted Policies and Standing Resolutions report on page 55.

[1:08:15] Voice 13: We have the Islands Trust Conservancy report on page 60.

[1:08:23] Voice 13: Do you want to highlight anything on that?

[1:08:25] Voice 6: I would like to highlight something.

[1:08:26] Voice 6: The ITC, I just want to highlight that while the Islands Trust celebrated its 50th anniversary,

[1:08:34] Voice 6: ITC celebrated its 30th year anniversary, so 30 years of conservation.

[1:08:41] Voice 13: Marvelous.

[1:08:41] Voice 13: Okay, our next regular meeting is scheduled for September 10th at the South Hall.

[1:08:53] Voice 13: And we have another town hall opportunity here.

[1:08:59] Voice 13: So I'll just look for Shohan, who'd like to speak?

[1:09:06] Voice 13: Yes, go ahead.

[1:09:08] Voice 13: One

[1:09:09] Voice 8: thing is that when Planner was presented the partner application,

[1:09:15] Voice 8: I know it's in the report,

[1:09:17] Voice 8: forward you did not mention about the riparian area the riparian

[1:09:23] Voice 5: area for the

[1:09:26] Voice 8: polymer application

[1:09:28] Voice 5: oh yes yes so there is that riparian area and if the application proceeds we will want a

[1:09:36] Voice 5: environmental assessment regarding that riparian area and that assessment would include

[1:09:43] Voice 5: monitoring requirements or protection requirements, so that will certainly be addressed.

[1:09:49] Voice 8: I was thinking when Liv mentioned the pond, in what relation the pond is, he mentioned a pond,

[1:09:57] Voice 8: what is the relation between the pond and the area there.

[1:10:02] Voice 16: And

[1:10:03] Voice 8: the second is the commentary, when you put together, like we did now,

[1:10:08] Voice 8: with the groundwater sustainability.

[1:10:14] Voice 8: To get the community information and with the public hearing.

[1:10:20] Voice 8: You don't give time to people to think about it.

[1:10:24] Voice 8: Because we will receive the community information

[1:10:28] Voice 8: and after 10 minutes we shall be talking about it in the public hearing.

[1:10:34] Voice 8: But we haven't been able really to absorb the community information

[1:10:39] Voice 8: make sure what you have provided for them. I think that between the community formation

[1:10:44] Voice 8: where the people will receive the information, should be some time to think about it, maybe

[1:10:54] Voice 8: to inquire more, we go to internet and we come to look for it. And after you will have

[1:11:01] Voice 8: your public hearing. But if you have it together, there is no time. What is the time there?

[1:11:07] Voice 8: So what I think is that when that happened, and I have seen it now that it will change

[1:11:14] Voice 8: after, people need some time to absorb new information.

[1:11:20] Voice 8: Because why is there the community information if it's not to give us information that maybe

[1:11:26] Voice 8: we didn't have it, or we did not understand, and we are all this question to the experts?

[1:11:33] Voice 8: Then we cannot go in ten minutes and speak on the public hearing if we have some ideas

[1:11:38] Voice 8: about it.

[1:11:39] Voice 8: So I think it's not a good policy to have land together, not only in this application, but in any application.

[1:11:51] Voice 5: I think you make a really good point and I'm happy the LTC did at least move the public hearing back to October.

[1:12:00] Voice 5: So staff will hope to bring forward a staff report at the September meeting.

[1:12:05] Voice 5: So if you have specific questions or any community members have specific questions, please send them to staff sooner rather than later.

[1:12:12] Voice 5: And then I'll work to try to address those questions as part of my September staff report just so you have that information

[1:12:20] Voice 5: before the public hearing in October.

[1:12:22] Voice 8: Why is there

[1:12:23] Voice 8: a reason of the community information?

[1:12:27] Voice 8: Why do you have the community?

[1:12:31] Voice 8: You just have it together. What is the reason? If you have it together with the public,

[1:12:36] Voice 8: what the planners say is logical. One call, one private contact then, they will give us

[1:12:44] Voice 8: information. With that, we can think about if we want to add something in the public

[1:12:52] Voice 8: hearing, say something. So there is no reason for the community information meeting.

[1:12:58] Voice 8: Not together with the public hearing. That's what I think. I would like to have the community

[1:13:04] Voice 8: information, but I would like it before. Because when you have the public community information,

[1:13:11] Voice 8: information. You don't only listen to your questions, you listen to what are the other

[1:13:16] Voice 8: concerns of other people in the public, in the residence. So you listen to that concern,

[1:13:23] Voice 8: you notice that other people have the same concerns, the same lack of knowledge that

[1:13:30] Voice 8: one has, or many of the same, in order to make it work. I understand that practically

[1:13:42] Voice 8: Practically for you it's better, the two children are done, for the local trust committee, for the staff, but I don't think it's better for us, the resident project.

[1:14:02] Voice 10: All

[1:14:03] Voice 1: right, anyone else?

[1:14:07] Voice 1: I would just like to say thank you for trying to save applicants money up front when things can change.

[1:14:16] Voice 1: i i've seen a lot of different cities do things differently and it really sucks to be anybody

[1:14:23] Voice 1: coming up and from a city council or something because there's a lot of different things so

[1:14:29] Voice 1: thank you yeah yeah on that same note

[1:14:32] Voice 12: when we put on our first application we spent four grand

[1:14:35] Voice 12: getting a professional plan done only to have to change it now have to go back and get it all

[1:14:40] Voice 12: free down so yeah thank you for not yeah that makes more sense let people put in

[1:14:48] Voice 12: their rough draft and then when it moves through then get the professional very

[1:14:52] Voice 12: expensive plans done so thank you okay

[1:14:57] Voice 13: well thank you for that and thanks

[1:14:59] Voice 13: everyone for coming there's nothing more than a call for

[1:15:03] Voice 13: adjournment