Thetis Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, July 9, 2024

[0:00:00] Voice 3: night in a public meeting. I encourage Peter and Ken to come if they can. It'll be a gauge on how

[0:00:10] Voice 3: people on Thetis Island feel about the tax increases that they've had over the last two

[0:00:18] Voice 3: years relative to the proportionate benefits that we're getting. So I'm finished phase one

[0:00:27] Voice 3: and I'm ready to engage

[0:00:31] Voice 3: Islands Trust. I'm assuming that

[0:00:35] Voice 3: that will be through Peter Luckhung, but whoever

[0:00:38] Voice 3: and staff, I leave that up to you to

[0:00:42] Voice 3: let me know. Thank you.

[0:00:47] Trustee Elliott (probable): Thank you, Mr. Duncan.

[0:00:49] Trustee Elliott (probable): Just a note for the record, are you the chair of the Right Pairs Association

[0:00:53] Trustee Elliott (probable): or what's your relationship? No, just

[0:00:57] Voice 3: Just for clarification, a number of Thetis Island organizations that are involved with infrastructure, including the Ratepayers Association, asked me to do this review in April, and I said I would, and I've completed the first phase.

[0:01:16] Voice 3: I'm a Thetis Island resident, and my background is in financial analysis.

[0:01:23] Trustee Elliott (probable): Great.

[0:01:24] Trustee Elliott (probable): So you did address the local trust committee before.

[0:01:28] Trustee Elliott (probable): And I do. Did you speak with the director of services, Julia Mobs?

[0:01:35] Trustee Elliott (probable): I think you might have had a conversation with.

[0:01:38] Voice 3: Yes. Yes, I have.

[0:01:39] Voice 3: Julia was very helpful. I understand

[0:01:41] Voice 3: she's gone on to acting chief administrative officer.

[0:01:46] Voice 3: But she gave me some information, which I'll be glad to go over with whoever my contact will be.

[0:01:54] Voice 3: I would like a staff contact and a director of contact.

[0:02:00] Voice 3: I found that one doesn't know, the other often does know,

[0:02:04] Voice 3: so I'm hoping that I can get a couple of different contacts.

[0:02:09] Trustee Elliott (probable): Great.

[0:02:10] Trustee Elliott (probable): So by director, you mean a trustee?

[0:02:13] Voice 3: Yes, sorry, a trustee.

[0:02:15] Trustee Elliott (probable): Okay.

[0:02:16] Trustee Elliott (probable): Trustee Luckham, you had a response there?

[0:02:20] Trustee Luckham (probable): Yeah, thank you.

[0:02:21] Trustee Luckham (probable): Thank you, Paul, for joining us today.

[0:02:23] Trustee Luckham (probable): and certainly be happy to speak with you about that when you're ready you can you know how to

[0:02:28] Trustee Luckham (probable): get a hold of me i am however interested in um what uh because this is the only opportunity for

[0:02:35] Trustee Luckham (probable): you to make remarks i am very much interested in what you have to say or think with respect to the

[0:02:42] Trustee Luckham (probable): grant which is being uh proposed or offered to uh it's not our grant it's the couch and valley

[0:02:48] Trustee Luckham (probable): regional district uh it's being uh presently offered to um to ruxton island um i certainly

[0:02:55] Trustee Luckham (probable): have my own uh perspective from the firefighting perspective and uh the necessity to support uh

[0:03:01] Trustee Luckham (probable): other members of the of the thetis island trust area but i am interested if you don't mind well

[0:03:09] Voice 3: i'll just give you an example um i think we're talking it's not a huge amount of money it's only

[0:03:15] Voice 3: $5,000, but $5,000 would have helped, as an example, Forbes Hall when Ann Dickey was trying

[0:03:27] Voice 3: to get an emergency propane tank for the generator. We've gone back and forth with CVRD.

[0:03:36] Voice 3: That's never been funded. We finally had to use our own funds for that. We're kind of wondering,

[0:03:43] Voice 3: Like, how are these decisions being made that we can find $5,000 for cisterns on Ruxton, but we can't find an emergency propane tank on Thetis?

[0:04:00] Voice 3: And if you look at my report, the point I'm trying to make is these grants and aid, they're very subjective, and it leads to inequities between those that have and those that don't.

[0:04:15] Voice 3: So it would be just a whole lot better if we didn't go down that road.

[0:04:24] Trustee Elliott (probable): So, sorry, is your opinion, sir, that the CVRD should not be applying grants and aid for certain projects?

[0:04:33] Trustee Elliott (probable): Well,

[0:04:33] Voice 3: these grants and aid are coming out of taxes, and we went for a number of years when there were no taxes for these grants and aid, and now we're being taxed for them, but there's no rationale of why one area gets it and the other doesn't.

[0:04:51] Voice 3: One of the Gulf Islands gets it and the other Gulf Islands don't.

[0:04:55] Voice 3: That's the subjectivity in it.

[0:04:58] Voice 3: And if we, you know, if there was some kind of parameters that were transparent, it might be a different story.

[0:05:06] Voice 3: But we've been trying for years here to get some grants to help us out on the Forbes Hall and nothing's happened.

[0:05:14] Voice 3: And now suddenly we find there's money available for another island.

[0:05:19] Voice 3: that's that's the inequity okay

[0:05:23] Trustee Elliott (probable): thank you for your comments sir that's very helpful

[0:05:27] Trustee Elliott (probable): um i'm just not sure what the local trust committee could do if i'm not mistaken this is a

[0:05:32] Trustee Elliott (probable): cvrd matter um and so but i think the discussion is going to be helpful so thank you for your

[0:05:41] Trustee Elliott (probable): comments on that are there any other speakers who wish to address the local trust committee

[0:05:47] Trustee Elliott (probable): you just put up your hand okay all right then that seems to be everyone who wants to speak

[0:06:00] Trustee Elliott (probable): and thank you for bringing that up miss paul duncan i forgot to note that this is the first

[0:06:06] Trustee Elliott (probable): uh or really the second week for acting cao julia mobs who is uh stepping into a role

[0:06:14] Trustee Elliott (probable): as an interim ceo while um the executive search firm uh pounds the pavement virtually to uh to um

[0:06:27] Trustee Elliott (probable): we're really going to market to find a suitable candidate for that role at the islands trust so

[0:06:33] Trustee Elliott (probable): we want to thank a ceo retiring ceo ross hotson pillar for his eight years of service and his

[0:06:41] Trustee Elliott (probable): excellent management and welcome Julia Mobs into the role. Everyone's eager to work with her,

[0:06:50] Trustee Elliott (probable): and she has a lot of support among trustees and staff. So I think it'll be a very smooth

[0:06:54] Trustee Elliott (probable): transition. And thank you to Trustee Chair Luckham for your work in negotiating with PSA and getting

[0:07:00] Trustee Elliott (probable): all those background details sorted that aren't obvious to the public, but there's a lot of work

[0:07:06] Trustee Elliott (probable): involved in in making sure this is an objective and fair process okay so

[0:07:13] Trustee Elliott (probable): moving on to the minutes we've got local trust committee meeting minutes stated

[0:07:18] Trustee Elliott (probable): April 30th 2024 for adoption are there any changes to those meeting minutes and

[0:07:28] Trustee Elliott (probable): note that there was so the piece of correspondence that we received was

[0:07:39] Trustee Elliott (probable): was commenting on which part do we need to amend that at all peter luckham or it's still accurate

[0:07:47] Trustee Elliott (probable): your comments about the um i can't find it

[0:07:53] Trustee Elliott (probable): now okay it's not in the meeting

[0:08:00] Trustee Luckham (probable): minutes as i thought

[0:08:01] Trustee Elliott (probable): never mind okay so take it by general consent we'll adopt the minutes of april 30th 2024

[0:08:10] Trustee Elliott (probable): 24 and um so we've got our follow-up action list updated as of june 25th on page nine are there

[0:08:22] Trustee Elliott (probable): any questions or comments from trustees or staff i did note that um i need to do some work with

[0:08:39] Trustee Elliott (probable): staff to write a letter to the couch and valley regional district about our interest in revisiting

[0:08:45] Trustee Elliott (probable): the draft protocol agreement so that's been pushed uh to september so let's make sure that we

[0:08:51] Trustee Elliott (probable): uh get that letter undertaken this week if we can it's been on the follow-up action list for

[0:08:57] Trustee Elliott (probable): quite a while okay so seeing or hearing no comments um we've got no application

[0:09:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): on the buttons here um so apologies for that just we have not had um since the response

[0:09:17] Trustee Luckham (probable): was sent out a month or more ago to the ministry regarding the

[0:09:23] Trustee Luckham (probable): agriculture lease we haven't heard anything further back from them is there

[0:09:29] Trustee Luckham (probable): anything current to report on that or are we still waiting I

[0:09:39] Voice 9: know through the

[0:09:41] Voice 9: chair we haven't we haven't heard anything further we post staff posted

[0:09:45] Voice 9: the letter to the website and sent it but we haven't heard any responses thank

[0:09:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): Thank you.

[0:09:52] Trustee Elliott (probable): Okay, great.

[0:09:53] Trustee Elliott (probable): Thank you for that.

[0:09:58] Trustee Elliott (probable): Okay, so local trust committee projects.

[0:10:00] Trustee Elliott (probable): We are wrapping up probably in the quickest minor project that I've ever seen in my tenure so far.

[0:10:08] Trustee Elliott (probable): The reading of bylaws number 113 for the OCP amendment and 114 LUB amendment for adoption here today.

[0:10:18] Trustee Elliott (probable): day. So page 11 and Planner Tomaitis, you want to introduce where we're at in the process. Thank you.

[0:10:26] Trustee Elliott (probable): Sure.

[0:10:27] Voice 9: Thanks, Chair Liet. Yeah, so this report is for a little bit of final background information

[0:10:33] Voice 9: on proposed bylaws number 113 and 114. And staff recommend that the bylaws be given final adoption.

[0:10:42] Voice 9: The proposed bylaws have been through public hearing. They've passed third reading.

[0:10:48] Voice 9: They've passed executive committee approval and proposed bylaw number 113, the OCP bylaw

[0:10:54] Voice 9: amendment, recently obtained approval from the Minister of Municipal Affairs on June

[0:10:58] Voice 9: 6th, 2024.

[0:11:00] Voice 9: So the next step is for the LTC to grant final adoption for both bylaws.

[0:11:09] Trustee Elliott (probable): Excellent.

[0:11:10] Trustee Elliott (probable): So local trustees, who would like to move this piece forward?

[0:11:18] Trustee Luckham (probable): I'd be more than happy to move advantage if you like.

[0:11:22] Trustee Luckham (probable): Thank you.

[0:11:25] Trustee Luckham (probable): I move that the Theta Sound Local Trust Committee bylaw number 113 cited as the Theta Sound's official committee plan 2014 amendment number 12023 be adopted.

[0:11:37] Trustee Elliott (probable): Moved. Do I have a seconder?

[0:11:40] Trustee Luckham (probable): Second.

[0:11:42] Trustee Elliott (probable): Seconded by Trustee Hunter. Any further discussion?

[0:11:46] Trustee Luckham (probable): I'll just

[0:11:47] Trustee Luckham (probable): speak to it.

[0:11:48] Trustee Luckham (probable): Go ahead.

[0:11:50] Trustee Luckham (probable): I think that this is significant with respect to the question that I just asked with respect to the letter and the refusal to approve a rezoning of the marine area adjacent to Thetis Island.

[0:12:09] Trustee Luckham (probable): And that at this juncture, the minister has approved our assertion of the necessity to zone the water area surrounding Thetis.

[0:12:21] Trustee Luckham (probable): And of course, there was no objections by any of the other ministries associated with that.

[0:12:28] Trustee Luckham (probable): So this is a testament to the authority of the Islands Trust and the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee.

[0:12:33] Trustee Luckham (probable): and when we've concluded this have adopted it I'm going to suggest that we

[0:12:40] Trustee Luckham (probable): forward this to the ministry with respect to the questions that came

[0:12:46] Trustee Luckham (probable): regarding the assertion of our rezoning authority on the existing area or not

[0:12:52] Trustee Luckham (probable): including an application and so I'm grateful to the minister and all of

[0:12:58] Trustee Luckham (probable): those involved to get it to this adoption stage supporting the

[0:13:02] Trustee Luckham (probable): the Ounce Trust Authority to zone the water areas.

[0:13:08] Trustee Elliott (probable): Excellent.

[0:13:09] Trustee Elliott (probable): And yes, thank you for the framing and context there.

[0:13:11] Trustee Elliott (probable): So my understanding is that you want, and maybe we can do that by resolution after,

[0:13:18] Trustee Elliott (probable): that these amended bylaws be forwarded to the minister that's considering our letter.

[0:13:27] Trustee Elliott (probable): Okay.

[0:13:27] Trustee Elliott (probable): So I'm going to call for the vote on that first motion.

[0:13:32] Trustee Elliott (probable): All those in favor, please raise your hand or say aye.

[0:13:34] Trustee Elliott (probable): Aye. Aye.

[0:13:36] Trustee Elliott (probable): Aye. That is carried. I can have someone read the second motion, please.

[0:13:43] Voice 5: I move that the Cetus Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 114, cited as Cetus

[0:13:54] Voice 5: Associated Islands Land Use Bylaw 2014, Amendment No. 1, 2023, be adopted.

[0:14:03] Trustee Elliott (probable): Excellent. Second.

[0:14:05] Trustee Elliott (probable): Seconded by Trustee Luckham. Thank you. Any further discussion? Okay. I'll call for the vote. All those in favor, raise your hand or say aye. And that is carried. Excellent work. So do you want a further resolution to forward the bylaws to the ministry, Trustee Luckham?

[0:14:27] Trustee Elliott (probable): um

[0:14:29] Trustee Luckham (probable): i would uh if you don't mind i would ask that uh the theater sound local trust committee um

[0:14:34] Trustee Luckham (probable): forward the recently adopted bylaws number 113 and 114 to the ministry of environment in reference

[0:14:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): to uh the rezoning uh application that has been uh rejected recently by the theater sound local

[0:14:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): trust committee and perhaps a cover letter from the chair be included excellent

[0:14:58] Trustee Elliott (probable): we can do that

[0:15:00] Trustee Elliott (probable): did you catch that um recorder bilney yes i did thank you chair great and uh do i have a seconder

[0:15:08] Trustee Elliott (probable): for that motion second seconded by trustee hunter any further discussion all those in favor raise

[0:15:15] Trustee Elliott (probable): your hand uh excellent that is carried great piece of work thank you to staff and everyone

[0:15:22] Trustee Elliott (probable): who's worked on this it's good to get that piece concluded congratulations indeed

[0:15:28] Trustee Luckham (probable): thank you very

[0:15:29] Trustee Luckham (probable): much everyone great

[0:15:30] Trustee Elliott (probable): so we are moving into uh is it the presentation sorry just back to my agenda here

[0:15:40] Trustee Elliott (probable): great okay so we've got a delegation um is this to be presented by staff 9.1 city west and ministry

[0:15:48] Trustee Elliott (probable): of citizen services the connectivity division for the connected coast proposal it's on page 20 of

[0:15:55] Trustee Elliott (probable): your agenda and and christina owen hello hi

[0:16:05] Voice 6: there thanks for having us good morning welcome

[0:16:08] Trustee Elliott (probable): welcome so I

[0:16:11] Voice 6: just have uh one more person joining here um is has Cheryl Katnick been

[0:16:18] Voice 6: promoted to a panelist as well there

[0:16:20] Trustee Elliott (probable): Cheryl Katnick has her hand raised if we could promote

[0:16:24] Trustee Elliott (probable): her to panelist as well um yeah um Michelle oh there we are perfect so Cheryl and Megan

[0:16:39] Trustee Elliott (probable): in as as well with you hello and welcome hello everybody okay so the floor is yours um and if

[0:16:54] Trustee Elliott (probable): you want to could staff share the screen so that we could scroll through um the presentation

[0:17:03] Trustee Elliott (probable): for the benefit of those watching i don't think i can do that so just give me a second

[0:17:12] Trustee Elliott (probable): michelle is that possible for you to thank oh christina excellent i

[0:17:18] Voice 6: started on my end there

[0:17:19] Trustee Elliott (probable): perfect thank you no

[0:17:22] Voice 6: problem thank you christina no

[0:17:24] Voice 2: problem all right thank you everybody for

[0:17:27] Voice 2: providing us a few minutes to participate in the meeting and make the presentation

[0:17:31] Voice 2: my name is cheryl katnick i'm a permitting and engagement lead with the connected coast program

[0:17:36] Voice 2: I'm joining you from the traditional ancestral and unceded territory of the Kwikwetlem First Nation.

[0:17:45] Voice 2: We will make best efforts here to squeeze into our five minute timeframe.

[0:17:51] Voice 2: So Christina's going to scroll along as I present.

[0:17:55] Voice 2: We're here to present on the Connected Coast Program.

[0:17:59] Voice 2: Next slide, please, Christina.

[0:18:10] Voice 6: Sorry, it's not.

[0:18:11] Voice 2: There we go.

[0:18:12] Voice 2: Okay, there we go. So the Connected Coast Program is a funded program by the provincial and federal government.

[0:18:19] Voice 2: It's to bring connectivity to remote, coastal, and Indigenous communities along the west coast of British Columbia.

[0:18:28] Voice 2: Next slide, please.

[0:18:33] Voice 2: The Connected Coast project ranges from two remote communities north of Prince Rupert

[0:18:40] Voice 2: across to Haida Gwaii, down the Inside Passage, down around Vancouver Island and over

[0:18:48] Voice 2: including Campbell River, the Broughton Archipelago, Sunshine Coast and we're

[0:18:54] Voice 2: continuing on with permitting now in the Gulf Islands. Thank you, next slide.

[0:18:59] Voice 2: The cable is currently being installed. We've got it installed between Prince Rupert, North Vancouver Island, through the inside passage of Vancouver Island. We currently also have it installed into Vancouver, and our crews are currently at work both in the Sunshine Coast and on the west coast of Vancouver Island.

[0:19:25] Voice 2: We have a number of regulatory approvals that we need to go through. So we work carefully with various federal and provincial stakeholders, as well as land stakeholders, we do have to get archaeological permits we've got DFO that we work with as well navigable

[0:19:47] Voice 2: waters with regards to placement of the cable near ports and docks, and we will be continuing

[0:19:57] Voice 2: through cable installation through to March of 2025. Thank you. Next slide.

[0:20:07] Voice 2: We have worked over the number of years to have a very strong engagement program with regards to

[0:20:13] Voice 2: the network. We have a number of First Nations stakeholders that we work very carefully with

[0:20:20] Voice 2: to share details around the program, the proposed installation methods. We also work carefully with

[0:20:28] Voice 2: regional districts, municipalities, various private tenure holders. We receive feedback from

[0:20:35] Voice 2: coastal pilots, fishing associations. We've worked closely with the Council of BC Yacht Clubs as

[0:20:43] Voice 2: well they've provided valuable feedback with regards to cable landings and we also work with

[0:20:49] Voice 2: other federal agencies such as dfo habitat and conservation when we're looking at as an example

[0:20:56] Voice 2: coral reefs the the various glass reef sponges as well as cold water coral reefs that are known

[0:21:01] Voice 2: around the coast so we take that feedback with regards to the marine rooting and we apply that

[0:21:08] Voice 2: to our design process. Next slide please. This is an example of what the cable looks like. It's very

[0:21:16] Voice 2: small. It's about the size of a pen or a pencil. It's lowered to the seabed from the back of a

[0:21:23] Voice 2: vessel. It doesn't float. It sits down, settles down onto the seabed. We try to target various

[0:21:31] Voice 2: muddy substrates. We try to avoid rocks so it does tend to self-bury. We've seen this in the

[0:21:36] Voice 2: intertidal zones. The cable has got a very strong tensile strength so it's not fragile it won't snap

[0:21:44] Voice 2: in the near shore area we do put some protections around it to make sure that it can't be damaged by

[0:21:52] Voice 2: logs or rolling rocks because we are installing on the coast. Something that's important to note

[0:21:59] Voice 2: is we do make publicly available our as laid data so wherever we have completed installation we

[0:22:06] Voice 2: encourage the public to download google earth or navigation files they can insert into their

[0:22:13] Voice 2: navigation systems so we try to have a very public facing communications and outreach program next

[0:22:23] Voice 2: Next slide. We do, by nature of what we do, have to install into some very sensitive ecosystems.

[0:22:33] Voice 2: The coast is a very changeable, you know, our province has a magnificent coastline that is

[0:22:40] Voice 2: very different everywhere we go, so we have to adapt our installation methods based on where

[0:22:47] Voice 2: we need to bring the cable. We don't have the luxury often of choosing where we bring the

[0:22:55] Voice 2: cable to shore because we are targeting remote communities. So we have developed a number of

[0:23:01] Voice 2: measures to try to adapt our installation methods to avoid important habitat where as possible.

[0:23:10] Voice 2: We prefer softer substrate over rocky substrate. We do, I've mentioned before, we place a steel

[0:23:19] Voice 2: split pipe over top of the cables for protection. You can see the crews doing that in one of the

[0:23:25] Voice 2: the bottom photographs. The left, one of the photographs of the beige cabinet, that's an

[0:23:30] Voice 2: example of the communications infrastructure that comes with the cable. Something that's important

[0:23:36] Voice 2: to note about this network is it's a transportation pipe, so to speak. It brings the cable to shore,

[0:23:44] Voice 2: to the communities, and from there, once it's on land, what we call last mile or fiber to the home,

[0:23:51] Voice 2: there's a number of different names for it. Internet service providers can connect

[0:23:56] Voice 2: into the connected coast and utilize that transport network. Next slide.

[0:24:04] Voice 2: Currently we are working on planning and permitting for the Gulf Islands region.

[0:24:11] Voice 2: One of the landings that is of particular interest is we've been working closely for

[0:24:16] Voice 2: the past few years with the LIACs and First Nation to bring a landing to their um the

[0:24:25] Voice 2: we had a number of locations that we discussed with them this was their preference this is a

[0:24:30] Voice 2: place where the community does gather spends a significant amount of time and we have uh

[0:24:36] Voice 2: designed our system to be able to come to shore in that location for them um the

[0:24:44] Voice 2: The, like I say, the landing has been selected and approved specifically with the nation.

[0:24:49] Voice 2: That's not something we could obviously proceed without that specific and direct feedback.

[0:24:55] Voice 2: We do have, we've been speaking with the planning team with Island Trust with regards to the

[0:25:03] Voice 2: marine conservation zone that currently surrounds the island.

[0:25:09] Voice 2: It does not provide allowable use of utilities.

[0:25:13] Voice 2: So, for example, power or telecommunications for the crossing of.

[0:25:19] Voice 2: Next slide, please.

[0:25:21] Voice 2: So the current project in this area is undergoing review by a number of agencies, Islands Trust included.

[0:25:37] Voice 2: We've got Archaeological Branch, Transport Canada.

[0:25:40] Voice 2: We have the Land Office, so Water Land Resource Stewardship.

[0:25:47] Voice 2: and we're also doing continuing our outreach engagement with First Nations that have

[0:25:55] Voice 2: traditional territory in this area. Can you please next slide? Oh, there we go. I did manage to make

[0:26:04] Voice 2: it under our five minutes. I believe the PDF has been provided to the Island Trust Committee so

[0:26:10] Voice 2: that you can read through that in more detail at your leisure. I hope I provided a background of

[0:26:19] Voice 2: of the program.

[0:26:21] Voice 2: Once again, our purpose is to bring

[0:26:24] Voice 2: reliable high-speed internet

[0:26:25] Voice 2: to remote coastal indigenous and indigenous communities

[0:26:30] Voice 2: to provide that necessary backbone to support communities,

[0:26:35] Voice 2: to bring, reduce that digital divide

[0:26:37] Voice 2: that we see out there currently for remote communities.

[0:26:42] Voice 2: Does anybody have any questions for us?

[0:26:44] Voice 2: Thank

[0:26:49] Trustee Elliott (probable): you for your presentation, trustees and staff. Do you have any questions or

[0:26:56] Trustee Elliott (probable): clarifications? We could probably, yeah, trustee Luckham.

[0:27:01] Trustee Luckham (probable): I want to thank you for your presentation.

[0:27:06] Trustee Luckham (probable): You've obviously done a lot of work and indeed this, I've been aware of this program for probably

[0:27:14] Trustee Luckham (probable): probably six or seven years, I think, anticipating that this deployment would

[0:27:22] Trustee Luckham (probable): eventually come. It's certainly taken longer than any of us anticipated.

[0:27:27] Trustee Luckham (probable): I want to encourage you to make an application for this work, not expecting us to prioritize

[0:27:38] Trustee Luckham (probable): or take on the responsibility to self-authorize this process for you.

[0:27:45] Trustee Luckham (probable): We do have a process in place for rezoning of areas,

[0:27:50] Trustee Luckham (probable): and I think that we would appreciate that you undertake that.

[0:27:54] Trustee Luckham (probable): We've recently, I know of at least one area in Howe Sound

[0:27:59] Trustee Luckham (probable): where we were under significant pressure at the loss of the fiber connectivity

[0:28:03] Trustee Luckham (probable): if we didn't rezone an area quickly, and we did that.

[0:28:10] Trustee Luckham (probable): I don't want to see this as being a pattern that's implemented across the southern Gulf Islands.

[0:28:17] Trustee Luckham (probable): It displaces other work, which is important to our community.

[0:28:21] Trustee Luckham (probable): Not that fiber optic isn't important. It certainly is.

[0:28:24] Trustee Luckham (probable): But the fact that this has been a long-term plan funded by federal agencies,

[0:28:29] Trustee Luckham (probable): agencies. This planning associated with rezoning should have been considered earlier and should be

[0:28:37] Trustee Luckham (probable): considered thoroughly at this time so that we can make an informed decision. Very glad to hear that

[0:28:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): you're in communication with LIACSON. That is paramount with this particular site. And so

[0:28:49] Trustee Luckham (probable): certainly we are interested in the comments and remarks that the LIACSON have to make with respect

[0:28:56] Trustee Luckham (probable): to this. I can't help but want to also understand what the long-term plan is for this being an

[0:29:04] Trustee Luckham (probable): island which has no vehicular access nor no electrical provision at this time and so we'd

[0:29:11] Trustee Luckham (probable): like to know what the plan is for as you have said your box and your infrastructure

[0:29:18] Trustee Luckham (probable): deposited on the shoreline and of course indeed what your plans are for distribution

[0:29:24] Trustee Luckham (probable): to the locations on the island in the long run.

[0:29:30] Trustee Luckham (probable): That obviously is an element of this infrastructure rollout,

[0:29:35] Trustee Luckham (probable): and we would like to know what that looks like,

[0:29:37] Trustee Luckham (probable): and that could be covered in an application

[0:29:39] Trustee Luckham (probable): that can be considered by the LTC.

[0:29:42] Trustee Luckham (probable): I also will note just in passing that, indeed,

[0:29:46] Trustee Luckham (probable): there's another drop which is planned for the Thetis-Peneliket Islands,

[0:29:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): which, although may not be a primary drop at this point,

[0:29:54] Trustee Luckham (probable): in time due to the recent rollout of TELUS infrastructure. It certainly

[0:30:00] Trustee Luckham (probable): is a backup connection in the event that there's lots of connections and that you should be

[0:30:09] Trustee Luckham (probable): considering making an application for that particular drop at the earliest possible

[0:30:15] Trustee Luckham (probable): opportunity as well. And so I want to thank you for your work and not disrespecting the work that

[0:30:22] Trustee Luckham (probable): you're doing, but just want you to recognize that we do have process in place to manage applications

[0:30:28] Trustee Luckham (probable): and we have other work that we need to consider broadly around the Islands Trust area

[0:30:34] Trustee Luckham (probable): and that we can address this in due course as quickly as is possible.

[0:30:43] Voice 2: Thank you, Chair Luckum. You are correct. We do have a number of applications.

[0:30:48] Voice 2: We have submitted all the necessary applications in for with regards to amendment to that particular marine zoning.

[0:30:58] Voice 2: As well, we do have a number of development permit applications that are being discussed.

[0:31:06] Voice 2: We've provided all our drawings and application details for all of those.

[0:31:11] Voice 2: So thank you for mentioning that.

[0:31:14] Voice 2: We're happy to say that we do have all the files in and we're working with planning teams for processing all of those.

[0:31:21] Voice 2: With regards to the, I'll just very quickly mention for the LIACS and landing, we have worked with them to provide a, they have agreed to support a program that's called the Early Earthquake Warning System, where there's a number of seismometers that are being installed in combination with the connected post landings.

[0:31:47] Voice 2: and those seismometers in remote locations with no power do have a solar panel so we're able to

[0:31:54] Voice 2: support the liaxin's desire for that access via utilizing that existing program

[0:32:02] Voice 2: in recognition that there is no power to that island at the time but i i do understand that

[0:32:10] Voice 2: That there is some desire eventually to to install other utilities there, but the build out of last mile would solely depend on the build out of the Community, so the connected coast, as I mentioned, is a pipeline it brings the possibility to shore and then it needs.

[0:32:30] Voice 2: It's ISP, so whether it's TELUS, Rogers, or small local communities, or actually some First Nations have their own ISP.

[0:32:40] Voice 2: They connect into Connected Coast, and that can then get built out into communities.

[0:32:46] Voice 2: That's the basic premise of the program, is that it's a backbone, it's a pipeline to support the greater distribution.

[0:32:52] Voice 2: Thank

[0:32:55] Trustee Elliott (probable): you, Ms. Katnick. I guess the question I still have after this conversation is, is there going to be a rezoning application, or is this a development permit or a variance that you're looking for?

[0:33:09] Trustee Elliott (probable): So,

[0:33:10] Voice 2: yes, we do have a number of development permits. The tricky bit is we, Planner Tamales, sorry if I said your name wrong, Margo, I apologize.

[0:33:24] Voice 2: we have met with them is that we don't own the land so we can't actually make a rezoning

[0:33:30] Voice 2: application but we are making a text amendment application in the case of the marine zone

[0:33:39] Voice 2: that is around the island maybe Margo can explain a bit better yeah

[0:33:47] Voice 9: thanks thanks Cheryl I think

[0:33:49] Voice 9: that a yeah bylaw text amendment application is the same as a rezoning application the same it's

[0:33:55] Voice 9: It's the same type of application.

[0:33:56] Voice 9: It's an application to amend the land use bylaw

[0:33:59] Voice 9: for that particular marine zone.

[0:34:03] Voice 9: So it's the same application package

[0:34:06] Voice 9: that you're submitting.

[0:34:09] Voice 9: Yeah, just to clarify.

[0:34:11] Voice 9: So my understanding is that that is underway.

[0:34:13] Voice 9: The application file hasn't been opened yet,

[0:34:16] Voice 9: but you're in the process of submitting

[0:34:18] Voice 9: all of the application package documents.

[0:34:21] Voice 2: I think we're just working out the final payment,

[0:34:24] Voice 2: The Strathcona Regional District, I will mention, so the project is owned and managed by a partnership.

[0:34:33] Voice 2: It's a partnership between City West, cable and telephone, and the Strathcona Regional District, which is a local governing body, North Island.

[0:34:45] Voice 2: So in this case, the application is coming from the Strathcona Regional District, one of our Connected Coast partners.

[0:34:51] Voice 2: And we're just working out the final payment process for that right now. So the files have all been submitted. We're just trying to work out processing.

[0:35:03] Trustee Elliott (probable): So thank you for that. So this, to staff, this won't have to come to Thetis Island for a, as a minor project for rezoning. This is in sort of the normal course of applications that we can consider?

[0:35:16] Trustee Elliott (probable): Yes,

[0:35:17] Voice 9: this will be considered as a current application, not an LTC-initiated minor project.

[0:35:24] Voice 9: And we actually have another agenda item to discuss that after correspondence is considered.

[0:35:33] Trustee Elliott (probable): Great.

[0:35:35] Trustee Elliott (probable): Trustee Hunter, I apologize for these roosters.

[0:35:37] Trustee Elliott (probable): They're very boisterous.

[0:35:39] Trustee Elliott (probable): Trustee Hunter, did you have any questions or comments?

[0:35:42] Trustee Elliott (probable): And then Trustee Luckham as well, any follow-up?

[0:35:45] Voice 4: No, thank you.

[0:35:47] Voice 4: i think peter covered what i had in mind thank you i

[0:35:53] Trustee Luckham (probable): have nothing further um grateful for the

[0:35:55] Trustee Luckham (probable): information provided thank you great

[0:35:59] Trustee Elliott (probable): and i'm anticipating that we're going to keep doing

[0:36:01] Trustee Elliott (probable): getting better with each process and each application is um it is different working

[0:36:07] Trustee Elliott (probable): with the islands trust but i'm grateful to staff for um working with um connected coast and city

[0:36:13] Trustee Elliott (probable): west and the partners to uh to go through that process i do recognize that renee labukan from

[0:36:20] Trustee Elliott (probable): the strathcona regional district is in um is uh watching is there anything further from strathcona

[0:36:29] Trustee Elliott (probable): or any further information from the delegation and if not we'll just thank you for your presentation

[0:36:36] Trustee Elliott (probable): thanks for being proactive and we look forward to um seeing this project advance on thetis and

[0:36:43] Trustee Elliott (probable): Valdez and uh Penelaket Islands great well thank you very

[0:36:49] Voice 2: much everybody for your time we very

[0:36:51] Voice 2: much appreciate it great bye

[0:36:56] Trustee Elliott (probable): for now okay that did answer some of my questions um I have I had

[0:37:06] Trustee Elliott (probable): some reservations about whether this would be a rezoning and take up space uh but if it's an

[0:37:11] Trustee Elliott (probable): application then it looks like it can advance in the normal course of business okay so proceeding

[0:37:23] Trustee Elliott (probable): apace um so new business uh 11 oh no sorry correspondence um we'd like to bring forward

[0:37:32] Trustee Elliott (probable): an email that the members of local trust committee received from lynn smith regarding the ruxton

[0:37:39] Trustee Elliott (probable): and island fire water cisterns um and so i'll just read out a portion of that email and then i think

[0:37:50] Trustee Elliott (probable): trustee luckham you wanted to uh address that does that sound good yes okay

[0:37:58] Trustee Elliott (probable): so the letter writer

[0:38:02] Trustee Elliott (probable): unnoted that the minutes from april the 15th meeting um that there was a comment that area

[0:38:09] Trustee Elliott (probable): Area G Director McClinton, was thanked for sourcing funding for two firefighting storage

[0:38:15] Trustee Elliott (probable): water storage tanks on Ruxton. The letter writer notes that the funding source is the CVRD Area G

[0:38:23] Trustee Elliott (probable): grant in aid and that the earlier amount for these storage tanks was $1,500 and now $5,000

[0:38:33] Trustee Elliott (probable): is to be funded through the grant in aid program which I assume is initiated at the director's

[0:38:40] Trustee Elliott (probable): request so I think the concern is the question was is there some reason that the Ruxton Island

[0:38:47] Trustee Elliott (probable): Property Owners Association is unable to fundraise for these water storage tanks

[0:38:51] Trustee Elliott (probable): for their fire protection so I'll let you address that Peter Luckham as you raise

[0:39:01] Voice 7: that go ahead

[0:39:10] Voice 7: You're muted.

[0:39:11] Voice 7: You're muted, sir.

[0:39:13] Voice 7: Thanks again.

[0:39:15] Trustee Luckham (probable): OK, there we go.

[0:39:16] Trustee Luckham (probable): Thank you for the opportunity, chair.

[0:39:20] Trustee Luckham (probable): I think that this is important to acknowledge

[0:39:24] Trustee Luckham (probable): the rationale and the reasons for this.

[0:39:28] Trustee Luckham (probable): And indeed, Lynn Smith has raised that question.

[0:39:30] Trustee Luckham (probable): And Paul Duncan on Thetis has also

[0:39:35] Trustee Luckham (probable): raised that question on behalf of the community interests

[0:39:38] Trustee Luckham (probable): that he represents there um um i think what's important to note and i think that um what paul

[0:39:45] Trustee Luckham (probable): said actually is significant in that um how it is that um one island versus another island are

[0:39:52] Trustee Luckham (probable): granted aid and that there'd be fairness and appropriateness associated with funding that's

[0:39:57] Trustee Luckham (probable): made available um to different areas of the regional district um in this an area g in this

[0:40:04] Trustee Luckham (probable): particular case. It's important to note that the fire protection brigade on Ruxland Island is not

[0:40:14] Trustee Luckham (probable): a substantially recognized fire service provider, primarily because they're not an improvement

[0:40:22] Trustee Luckham (probable): district. And of course, improvement districts are no longer a supported model for any kind of

[0:40:28] Trustee Luckham (probable): service water or fire or otherwise and so they are in a position where their need wildfire

[0:40:35] Trustee Luckham (probable): protection need particularly is as valid and as important for any community and particularly rural

[0:40:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): community they have no ability to raise money through normal channels to secure the ability

[0:40:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): to do firefighting, for which they have received training and are receiving equipment, used

[0:40:58] Trustee Luckham (probable): equipment, and otherwise from even the Thetis Island Volunteer Fire Department has helped

[0:41:03] Trustee Luckham (probable): them out in that respect.

[0:41:04] Trustee Luckham (probable): They've consulted with us about how to secure water systems, and although they've acquired

[0:41:10] Trustee Luckham (probable): one water tank through local contribution and fundraising, the ability to access more

[0:41:16] Trustee Luckham (probable): More funds and grants is very limited for a small population, but their need is as important or significant for the island and the region as anywhere.

[0:41:26] Trustee Luckham (probable): If there was a significant fire on Ruxton Island, potentially the damage could be significant and that in a large scale fire, the ambers and the like that potentially could spread to the other islands in the region, including Vancouver Island, would also set those communities at risk.

[0:41:47] Trustee Luckham (probable): And so water is an important thing, and I'm grateful to Director McClinton for having spent a significant amount of time to understand the issues on Rockland and find a creative way to assist them in their fire service.

[0:42:01] Trustee Luckham (probable): More water is always better, and the fire brigade on the island does have the ability to actually conduct the operations in terms of transporting water to the locations that are needed.

[0:42:12] Trustee Luckham (probable): and the crews and some equipment, although the needs are great, they could certainly use more.

[0:42:18] Trustee Luckham (probable): This is an important step to provide them the opportunity to defend against a fire

[0:42:24] Trustee Luckham (probable): and is a long-term infrastructure investment that is so incredibly valuable.

[0:42:29] Trustee Luckham (probable): So I think that I personally and I know the fire service generally would support this work

[0:42:38] Trustee Luckham (probable): work and i'm grateful to the director for finding a creative way to fund it thank

[0:42:47] Trustee Elliott (probable): you for that

[0:42:48] Trustee Elliott (probable): trustee luckham um yes i would add that um it it appears to be the director's work

[0:42:58] Trustee Elliott (probable): to ascertain and balance the needs of the communities and so i think when considering

[0:43:05] Trustee Elliott (probable): considering the value of these cisterns to be funded through a grant and aid program versus

[0:43:13] Trustee Elliott (probable): raised by the community I think perhaps those questions should be directed to the director

[0:43:20] Trustee Elliott (probable): because essentially it would have been probably his decision and so thank you for the information

[0:43:29] Trustee Elliott (probable): trustee luckham about the need um i think it is it's always a challenge to balance these

[0:43:35] Trustee Elliott (probable): these many critical pressing needs and and also recognizing that the forbes hall

[0:43:40] Trustee Elliott (probable): as uh letter writer or paul duncan expressed has been needing propane tank and other services so

[0:43:48] Trustee Elliott (probable): i think this is an ongoing conversation um is there anything further

[0:43:54] Trustee Luckham (probable): to add to that if that's

[0:43:56] Trustee Luckham (probable): all right no um because i i didn't actually address that specifically is the inequity of

[0:44:02] Trustee Luckham (probable): uh the funding that is may be available or not available to any given uh area within the islands

[0:44:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): trust area certainly the community association and uh the construction of the ford's hall has

[0:44:15] Trustee Luckham (probable): the potential to access other other funding which i would suggest the ruxton island association does

[0:44:21] Trustee Luckham (probable): does not have that same potential based upon the remote areas and the smaller population.

[0:44:28] Trustee Luckham (probable): And so the thing about the inequity is that Ruxton Island in particular

[0:44:33] Trustee Luckham (probable): has very little or no opportunity to access funding for which they are taxed for over the years.

[0:44:41] Trustee Luckham (probable): And so this is one unique opportunity where there is an opportunity for the Ruxton Island community

[0:44:47] Trustee Luckham (probable): who are contributing to the tax base to have that opportunity to recover some of those

[0:44:52] Trustee Luckham (probable): funds in a way that is important to them because they cannot access, for instance, the areas

[0:44:58] Trustee Luckham (probable): of recreational facilities that are supported by the tax levied on the Thetis Island Trust

[0:45:06] Trustee Luckham (probable): area.

[0:45:07] Trustee Luckham (probable): As Thetis is concerned about the inability to use or lack of opportunity to use those

[0:45:13] Trustee Luckham (probable): facilities. Ruxton is in a similar or worst case scenario. And so in terms of this is a creative

[0:45:19] Trustee Luckham (probable): way to look at opportunities to equalize the opportunity that different communities have

[0:45:25] Trustee Luckham (probable): the ability to access the resources for which the Cowichan Valley Regional District

[0:45:30] Trustee Luckham (probable): pays for and taxes all of its citizens.

[0:45:36] Trustee Elliott (probable): Thank you for those comments, Trustee Luckham.

[0:45:41] Trustee Elliott (probable): um and thank you for to the letter writer for the correspondence this has been a good discussion and

[0:45:46] Trustee Elliott (probable): um i hope it's been helpful to clarifying i don't think the ltc is taking a position on this

[0:45:54] Trustee Elliott (probable): and we're just commenting that it it is a good thing to get fire protection for huxton island

[0:46:00] Trustee Elliott (probable): it concerns all of us that uh um that each community has the support and the infrastructure

[0:46:08] Trustee Elliott (probable): that it needs particularly for fire protection so if there's nothing further um we'll move on

[0:46:15] Trustee Elliott (probable): from correspondence and um with item 11.1 new business uh the connected coast proposed project

[0:46:23] Trustee Elliott (probable): on valdez island we have a verbal staff update thanks charlotte yeah

[0:46:30] Voice 9: so i i think you already

[0:46:31] Voice 9: heard from um the staff at city west um about connected coast and and everything that they're

[0:46:38] Voice 9: proposing but i think staff just wanted to follow up and say that we had some pre-application

[0:46:43] Voice 9: discussions with them um and we wanted to confirm that the projected time without getting into the

[0:46:50] Voice 9: details of their application of their rezoning application for that marine zone um the the

[0:46:56] Voice 9: timeline for that rezoning is six to 12 months as with almost any rezoning application in a trust

[0:47:02] Voice 9: area. And processing should be underway soon. But staff wanted to ask if the LTC is at all

[0:47:12] Voice 9: interested in expediting the application or, you know, fast tracking in any way. This would mean

[0:47:21] Voice 9: prioritizing the application above other existing LTC projects and applications. There aren't any

[0:47:28] Voice 9: other rezoning applications under review for this for your ltc at the moment um so it would just

[0:47:34] Voice 9: mean potentially putting on hold any minor projects that you you'd like to start and prioritizing

[0:47:43] Voice 9: uh you know scheduling of potential additional special business meetings to help the rezoning

[0:47:50] Voice 9: application decisions go faster this is just an option for the ltc it's not something that staff

[0:47:57] Voice 9: are necessarily recommending but just bringing it up um because of i think the time constraints

[0:48:02] Voice 9: that the app the applicant has brought up for their uh deadlines and funding can

[0:48:10] Trustee Elliott (probable): you remind me

[0:48:11] Trustee Elliott (probable): um margo what the deadline was i may have missed that missed that in their presentation yeah i'm

[0:48:18] Voice 9: not sure that they made it super clear but they've they've told us during during pre-application

[0:48:23] Voice 9: discussions that um that i think next march um they they or by basically by the end of the year

[0:48:31] Voice 9: we can follow up with them on specific dates but um you know it's six months until the end of the

[0:48:37] Voice 9: year and on average rezoning applications take more than that so if we if they would like to

[0:48:44] Voice 9: have this application considered more quickly um it would probably take some

[0:48:52] Voice 9: prioritization from the LTC to have the application process go faster.

[0:48:56] Voice 9: I

[0:48:57] Trustee Elliott (probable): see. Well, trustees, yeah, Trustee Luckham.

[0:49:01] Trustee Luckham (probable): So I didn't hear urgency expressed in the presentation we had. And so certainly the

[0:49:09] Trustee Luckham (probable): applicant can express that urgency if there is such a thing when we receive the application.

[0:49:16] Trustee Luckham (probable): And I think we could consider that at that point. I think the important thing is,

[0:49:21] Trustee Luckham (probable): is they need to get that application in as soon as possible.

[0:49:24] Trustee Luckham (probable): It could have been already submitted because this plan has been known for some time.

[0:49:30] Trustee Luckham (probable): And so not that I'm not prepared to consider it,

[0:49:34] Trustee Luckham (probable): but given that Thetis Island is a quiet place, there are no applications currently,

[0:49:40] Trustee Luckham (probable): I suspect that it wouldn't turn out to be the average length of time necessary for rezoning.

[0:49:47] Trustee Luckham (probable): But I think we could have an appropriate update at the time that we received the application.

[0:49:53] Trustee Luckham (probable): And so my only question would be is the only project that I am certainly interested in

[0:50:00] Trustee Luckham (probable): pursuing is the soil deposit and removal bylaw, which has been under discussion.

[0:50:07] Trustee Luckham (probable): And now that we've completed the other rezoning that we needed to do, I'm assuming that this

[0:50:15] Trustee Luckham (probable): would not be significantly jeopardized by this work coming in in the normal course of events

[0:50:22] Trustee Luckham (probable): do

[0:50:27] Trustee Elliott (probable): you agree with that uh planter to minus that we'll see an application first and then hopefully

[0:50:33] Trustee Elliott (probable): it will be fit into the normal course of events without displacing a minor project

[0:50:38] Trustee Elliott (probable): yeah

[0:50:38] Voice 9: that's that's correct that can they both both can occur simultaneously yeah

[0:50:43] Trustee Elliott (probable): excellent so

[0:50:45] Trustee Elliott (probable): So we will encourage the applicant to apply as soon as possible

[0:50:48] Trustee Elliott (probable): so then we can get the process started and move it through.

[0:50:53] Voice 9: Just to clarify, they are applying.

[0:50:57] Voice 9: They have applied.

[0:50:58] Voice 9: That is underway.

[0:51:00] Voice 9: Just the file hasn't been opened yet.

[0:51:03] Trustee Elliott (probable): I see.

[0:51:03] Trustee Elliott (probable): Thanks for that.

[0:51:05] Trustee Elliott (probable): And so we had another item of business.

[0:51:07] Trustee Elliott (probable): If that concludes the update there, 11.2, remind me again, I wrote it down.

[0:51:15] Trustee Elliott (probable): was it yeah

[0:51:16] Voice 9: thanks charlie so this was just um flagging that the thetis island advisory planning

[0:51:22] Voice 9: commission expired x advisory planning committee expired on may 3rd this this year so almost two

[0:51:30] Voice 9: months ago now um and staff are just wondering um if there is a need for an apc currently um

[0:51:38] Voice 9: And whether the LTC would like to make a resolution to direct staff to appoint a new APC and have a new term.

[0:51:51] Voice 9: I think there would be an expectation to, if there's a rezoning application under review, potentially to send that to the APC for review.

[0:52:02] Voice 9: So there is, in staff's opinion, some need to reinstate it.

[0:52:08] Voice 9: yep

[0:52:09] Trustee Elliott (probable): that sounds good um uh trustees do you want to direct staff to um advertise for um

[0:52:19] Trustee Elliott (probable): submissions for the apc and get that going yes

[0:52:23] Voice 5: trustee hunter

[0:52:26] Voice 5: yes i thought that i thought that

[0:52:28] Voice 5: was mandatory but anyway yes go ahead okay

[0:52:30] Trustee Elliott (probable): um

[0:52:32] Voice 9: yes planet tomatoes thanks charlie yeah actually i

[0:52:36] Voice 9: I have a draft resolution if you'd like to hear it.

[0:52:38] Voice 9: Thank you.

[0:52:39] Voice 9: Because we didn't expect that,

[0:52:41] Voice 9: so I worked with a planning team assistant on that.

[0:52:45] Voice 9: It would be that the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee

[0:52:48] Voice 9: requests staff to send letters to members

[0:52:51] Voice 9: of the Advisory Planning Commission,

[0:52:53] Voice 9: whose terms expired on May 3, 2024,

[0:52:56] Voice 9: thanking them for their participation

[0:52:58] Voice 9: and inviting their expressions of interest

[0:53:00] Voice 9: for reappointment for another two-year term.

[0:53:05] Voice 9: and also advertise for public expression of interest for new members excellent

[0:53:14] Trustee Elliott (probable): and i can

[0:53:15] Trustee Elliott (probable): send that to move that i'll

[0:53:20] Trustee Luckham (probable): move that thank

[0:53:22] Trustee Elliott (probable): you trustee luck comes moved and trustee hunter do

[0:53:26] Trustee Elliott (probable): you wish to second a

[0:53:28] Voice 5: second excellent

[0:53:30] Trustee Elliott (probable): and we've got that listed in the chat thank you so much

[0:53:36] Trustee Elliott (probable): planner to Midas so moved and seconded that yes it's all there awesome call for the vote all those

[0:53:44] Trustee Elliott (probable): in favor raise your hand and say aye that is oh carried Carly you had a question I think Carly is

[0:53:56] Trustee Elliott (probable): not in the meeting can we re-promote her to speaker I think that's something might have

[0:54:03] Trustee Elliott (probable): happened oh there she is hello carly thanks chair i'm back now you're back yeah

[0:54:13] Voice 9: so i'll get that

[0:54:14] Voice 9: from

[0:54:14] Trustee Elliott (probable): the chat thank you it is in the chat there you go thanks so much okay thanks for that piece

[0:54:20] Trustee Elliott (probable): of business and for being so uh quick on the mark um so right on time 11 43 here we've got staff

[0:54:30] Trustee Elliott (probable): Staff reports included in the agenda, the Trust Conservancy report dated March 2024.

[0:54:37] Trustee Elliott (probable): I will note that for the public's information that manager Kate Emmings has taken a posting in the provincial government for the BC Data Conservation Centre, I believe.

[0:54:51] Trustee Elliott (probable): And so we have welcomed Carolyn Stewart, who had worked with the Islands Trust many, many years ago, is stepping in to be acting manager.

[0:55:04] Trustee Elliott (probable): And she was with us at Trust Council on Salt Spring Island.

[0:55:09] Trustee Elliott (probable): So that's been really good and looking forward to her input and fresh perspective for the team.

[0:55:15] Trustee Elliott (probable): There is a trust conservancy, the Heron edition is in your package.

[0:55:24] Trustee Elliott (probable): Sorry, is anybody needing to speak?

[0:55:27] Trustee Elliott (probable): Okay.

[0:55:28] Trustee Elliott (probable): And there's a trustee and local expense report, and as well, your adopted policies and standing resolutions.

[0:55:35] Trustee Elliott (probable): And so anybody wish to speak on any of these?

[0:55:39] Trustee Elliott (probable): Otherwise, yes, trustee Luckham?

[0:55:40] Trustee Elliott (probable): I

[0:55:41] Trustee Luckham (probable): just want to acknowledge and thank Carolyn Stewart for joining us and wish Kate success in her temporary posting with the provincial government.

[0:55:50] Trustee Luckham (probable): That's terrific. I had a chance of working with Carolyn in the southern Gulf Islands parks over the years.

[0:56:01] Trustee Luckham (probable): And so I'm very pleased to have had conversations with her at council and look forward to seeing her work on the conservancy.

[0:56:12] Trustee Elliott (probable): Excellent. I am too. So thank you for that. We've got our work program, active projects list and

[0:56:20] Trustee Elliott (probable): future projects on pages 41. And look forward to seeing the 100% concluded on our minor project

[0:56:29] Trustee Elliott (probable): and looking for a staff report with some options on a soil removal. And

[0:56:38] Trustee Elliott (probable): and why is that not in the future projects list um i don't see the soil removal and

[0:56:49] Trustee Elliott (probable): uh disposal bylaw interesting oh sorry two administrative uh apologize so planetomidus

[0:57:01] Trustee Elliott (probable): do you think we could uh see that report by our next meeting potentially yes

[0:57:06] Voice 9: that yeah that's

[0:57:07] Voice 9: when it's proposed for the september

[0:57:09] Trustee Elliott (probable): meeting excellent well before we say goodbye i wish to

[0:57:16] Trustee Elliott (probable): thank you all and wish uh trustee look on bon voyage because i understand you're

[0:57:22] Trustee Elliott (probable): taking off across the sea went to see some family that's

[0:57:28] Trustee Luckham (probable): correct thank you

[0:57:29] Trustee Elliott (probable): okay well you're going

[0:57:31] Trustee Elliott (probable): to miss the most beautiful part of summer we're actually getting summer so oh

[0:57:35] Trustee Luckham (probable): i'll be back in

[0:57:36] Trustee Luckham (probable): in fairly short order not to worry about

[0:57:38] Trustee Luckham (probable): that so our next

[0:57:41] Trustee Elliott (probable): meeting is scheduled for tuesday september

[0:57:45] Trustee Elliott (probable): 10th 2024 at 9 30 a.m in person in the thetis island community center um does staff or trustees

[0:57:55] Trustee Elliott (probable): wish to change that to electronic now would be the time are we happy to meet in person

[0:57:59] Trustee Elliott (probable): planner to Midas uh thanks

[0:58:03] Voice 9: Charlie actually we have you have to meet in person um have a certain

[0:58:08] Voice 9: number of in-person meetings every year so in order to fulfill that requirement this meeting

[0:58:13] Voice 9: should should be in person otherwise you'd have to change the November meeting to be in person

[0:58:18] Trustee Elliott (probable): and I think we're going to work on having um an elder or someone open the meeting and

[0:58:25] Trustee Elliott (probable): and offer the traditional welcome to territory or some opening remarks so um if we could work on

[0:58:32] Trustee Elliott (probable): that um maybe peter if you could give me any contacts before you go or reach out to um ken

[0:58:40] Trustee Elliott (probable): thomas it'd be nice to have someone at one of our meetings at least once you're muted muted

[0:58:49] Trustee Luckham (probable): so remind me the date i don't have that in front of me september 10th okay

[0:58:56] Trustee Luckham (probable): Okay, because I have been considering that conversation and the travel from Penelope to Thetis and back again is quite significant for somebody to make a presentation.

[0:59:11] Trustee Luckham (probable): So, I'm proposing to speak to Ken and maybe some other elders and suggest that they would do that via zoom at 1 of our meetings.

[0:59:22] Trustee Luckham (probable): So we would want to have the ability to bring that person in and broadcast that on a screen in our hall to respect the amount of time that would be necessary for someone to come to the Thetis meeting.

[0:59:36] Trustee Luckham (probable): But that's what I've been considering just recently.

[0:59:40] Trustee Elliott (probable): That's great. Yeah. And providing options by Zoom or in person.

[0:59:45] Trustee Elliott (probable): Who knows, you may want to vote over.

[0:59:49] Trustee Elliott (probable): Yeah.

[0:59:49] Trustee Elliott (probable): Yeah. Yeah. OK, so let's get that moving. We've got lots of time before September to explore some options and looking forward to seeing you in person September 10th.

[1:00:00] Voice 7: Okay.

[1:00:01] Trustee Elliott (probable): Call for adjournment and wish you all a wonderful

[1:00:04] Trustee Elliott (probable): summer.

[1:00:06] Trustee Luckham (probable): Let's adjourn. Same to you.

[1:00:08] Trustee Elliott (probable): Happy

[1:00:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): trails, Peter. Thank you, sir. Bye now.

[1:00:12] Trustee Luckham (probable): Bye now.