Trustee Luckham

Trustee, Islands Trust Conservancy Board, Islands Trust Council, Islands Trust Executive Committee, Islands Trust Financial Planning Committee, Islands Trust Governance Committee, Islands Trust Programs Committee, Islands Trust Regional Planning Committee, Ballenas-Winchelsea Local Trust Committee, Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee, Gambier Island Local Trust Committee, Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee, South Pender Island Local Trust Committee, Thetis Island Local Trust Committee. 104,389 lines across 248 meetings, 2021-01-18 to 2026-08-25. The longest three lines from each meeting are shown; the transcript page has every line, with its confidence mark, and the recording plays from any of them.

1. Thetis Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, August 25, 2026

   2026-08-25 · 130 lines

   • [1:02:47] “So, oh, well, one, there's a mapping anomaly on one of the maps on the groundwater wells density. It looks like there's a huge dock off of the west side of Thetis. And there's maybe another one at the north end. And I'm suspecting that those are actually leases, aquaculture leases or foreshore leases that individuals have that some reason is skewing your data there.”
   • [1:04:42] “Yeah, so there we go. So what has been, and you've stated quite clearly in this report that there are no test wells. I had the impression there was a provincial test well. Oh, and so that was my, I can't read my writing, is the water data. Let me just skip back for a moment before I continue this thought about monitoring wells.”
   • [0:47:32] “And maybe Margot or Rene have a, being very informal here, Planner Tomatis and Regional Planning Manager Gemara, I'll say, have more that they would like to share. But like I said, I don't really want to drag this on. I just think that having those lines of communication is really important.”

2. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, June 17, 2026

   2026-06-17 · 79 lines

   • [3:35:32] “debated, you know, back in March, and the decision about is about the work that we were going to be”
   • [4:14:44] “clarification. I'm aware. The problem I have with this, there's twofold. A motion was made earlier,”
   • [1:48:17] “an election coming up around the corner um what i think is critical is for a new council that will”

3. Islands Trust Council special meeting, May 13, 2026

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   • [1:59:44] “And so any further reduction of the size of the document and the detail that's in there, we're only going to get more responses indicating that we're not being detailed enough and I don't know what you're doing.”
   • [2:31:33] “you, Chair, once again. The question has come up about co-governance. What does that mean? I don't know. But I think that democracy represents co-governance and that democracy engages people in governance.”
   • [1:59:37] “It also strikes me that through this edit process over the last two years, I think we've lost more support than we've gained.”

4. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, March 10, 2026

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   • [4:49:57] “there are alternatives and the key in this whole story which has been going on anybody else remember”
   • [1:33:53] “colleges have recognized that. It also recognizes bringing us in line with our colleagues in other”
   • [4:50:03] “how long like it's five six seven eight nine ten years you've got to find a way to get the message”

5. Thetis Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, February 3, 2026

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   • [0:50:47] “And that's really great. Although the thing that leaves me with a question, and I know what the answer is, but I think it's worth articulating and considering, including in future presentations, that even though the policy statement may be adopted, and even though LTCs may be changing their OCPs and their land use bylaws to come into compliance with the policy statement,”
   • [3:56:39] “So, I'll move number four here, that the Theta Sound Local Trust Committee request a covenant under Section 219 of the Land Title Act from the applicant for PLRZ20250072, Walsh and Fenton, for shoreline, ecosystem, and cultural heritage protection, and designate the chair of the local trust committee to sign the covenant for the rezoning application.”
   • [0:51:12] “Every single one of those changes at the OCP and the LUB level will be held at the public level, and the public will continue to have the opportunity to influence their official community plans, which they own, and the land use bylaws to support the official community plan ongoing through this.”

6. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, December 4, 2025

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   • [2:15:57] “However, I hope you appreciate the humor that just yesterday we decided we were going to have in-person meetings in June of 2026.”
   • [3:58:26] “shortfalls going forward. We've already done that. We've made, at this table, we've made some serious”
   • [3:38:08] “probably too long but all these years have enabled me to be able to stand the test of time and still”

7. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, December 3, 2025

   2025-12-03 · 96 lines

   • [7:12:07] “I was looking at a map the other day, which actually is about the vacancy tax, not associated with the short-term vacation rental tax, but I noticed that within, and I'm not mentioning it specifically because I don't want to upset anybody, but there was a regional district in which the bulk of the regional district was included.”
   • [4:18:32] “Thank you. This is a continuation of a project. And I guess what I want to assess is how much money have we already invested in this, including grant money, so that I know what the investment is, and how many hours of staff have been already spent on this project.”
   • [4:18:54] “Like, if this is a wrap-up, then it does strike me, and I'm hearing an awful lot of interest in advancing this around the table and moving in that direction, but just would like to have that clarity.”

8. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, December 2, 2025

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   • [1:51:15] “We are adults. We should be able to manage that in a respectful way. So what we can learn from this is to be more conscious of our own behaviors and behaving in a more parliamentary way. And I would encourage you to look up that parliamentary behavior and judge for yourself what that means. Thank you.”
   • [3:18:31] “I recall 10 or 15 years ago, something like that, maybe David Marler would remember, we created project charters, which proposed how we would undertake a task and sought a commitment from the local trust committees to undertake this task in that way.”
   • [3:18:51] “And to me, this feels like that same thing. If you want to fix these things, this is what you need to do. And I want your commitment to support us moving in that direction. And so I am wholeheartedly supporting this direction. Thank you.”

9. Thetis Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, June 3, 2025

   2025-06-03 · 192 lines

   • [0:20:01] “But I think realistically, you are kind of breaking new ground here. And it may or may not be clear. Well, certainly not clear to me at this point in time, because I've not had a report from staff to provide us with how this is going to fit into the Green Shores program, how it's going to fit into our OCPs and LEBs and how it'll fit and align with the policy.”
   • [0:57:35] “I want to thank Matt for coming to the meeting, and perhaps there might be an opportunity for him to speak to it at the chair's discretion, a little further or not, because I sort of got the impression he wanted to speak to the minor project amendment there, which may have been the water attachment piece.”
   • [0:55:57] “But I'd like to see it spelled out about what it means, and then let's have that conversation, and let's hear from the community, and whether or not there's any support for it or not, or whether it's just simply a good thing or a bad thing to undertake.”

10. Thetis Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, April 1, 2025

    2025-04-01 · 316 lines

    • [1:25:46] “So I would like to know whether there's any legal ground to stand on, because if there's not, then the direction that we want need to go is going to be very different than fighting an individual applicant, which I don't want to do that across the island's trust area, because quite honestly, others are going to consider, oh, this is a nice way to get a 30 year license for an aquaculture operation in the southern Gulf Islands.”
    • [1:45:08] “Amazing. I move that the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee request that the chair of the local trust committee with executive committee and staff write to the Minister of Municipal Affairs asking for the minister to advocate for upholding the zoning authority of the Islands Trust, specifically in the case of the Thetis Island Trust, Thetis Island license of occupation and for Islands Trust Council.”
    • [1:52:09] “And I think that the way this needs to work is if we have an issue, the minister responsible for the Islands Trust should, if he believes it to be true, that our concerns are legitimate, that then that minister should advocate to the minister environment to rectify this problem or natural waters and land and resources, whatever it is these days.”

11. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, March 13, 2025

    2025-03-13 · 60 lines

    • [2:23:57] “Yeah. The only thing that I would say is worthy of consideration is whether or not we are paying for subscription or advertising, because I think that's come up.”
    • [2:24:14] “But I would say for sure, maybe we just spend our money there, our taxpayers' money, Canadian dollars in Canada should be a better option.”
    • [0:16:38] “Balance Trust Council By-Law 201, cited as the Balance Trust Council Financial Plan By-Law 2025-2026,”

12. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, March 12, 2025

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    • [9:01:26] “And, you know, Maine and Thetis probably are probably more complex than others, because on Maine, there's multiple ferries going to multiple islands. And on Thetis, it's a single air ferry that's going to multiple islands. And people on our islands relate to the ferries as a service. It is a service. And I'm glad that you talked about TransLink and that kind of stuff, because that's about moving people places and delivering that service.”
    • [9:00:00] “And so let's see what that looks like. So I'm really glad that you're here and you're helping us come to understand that. But what I wonder is, in that process where that decision was made, for whatever reasons, maybe there were things that didn't work for you, and maybe there were things that didn't work for us, and you said, okay, it's time to do something different.”
    • [9:02:03] “But what's important, what's happened since the pandemic, right, I think there's a milestone there, is there were disruptions that were labor-related, that were health-related, there were vessel changes, and continuously changing and fluctuating schedules in order to make them perform better and run on time and provide financial benefits all throughout it.”

13. Islands Trust Executive Committee regular meeting, March 11, 2025

    2025-03-11 · 191 lines

    • [0:01:26] “And when I cast my sight out into the forest and the shorelines and here in Sanemo territory on the harbor, I reflect on that history and the people that have been here all this time.”
    • [3:07:10] “I think I would prefer to see this directed to staff because in my recollection as a vice chair on LTCs with OCPs, we do have some guidance in some OCPs around light pollution.”
    • [3:07:29] “And I think light pollution, noise pollution, other sorts of environmental and cosmetic intrusions in our space is something that we already know something about.”

14. Islands Trust Financial Planning Committee regular meeting, March 5, 2025

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    • [0:36:44] “And of course, the percentages vary significantly, 8% to 10% to 3% or 4%. And so when you talk about numbers with that kind of magnitude, let's just say 4% and 8%, well, that's quite a bit of an increase in one region that isn't necessarily proportionate based upon what the particular services needs are in a regional district or municipality.”
    • [1:32:21] “And that's okay that it's got to a motion. But on page, if I'm not mistaken, on page 617, and possibly, I was never, I wasn't able to resolve this. There's two tables there. Trust area levy tax per average residential property on page 16.”
    • [0:37:12] “So we want to try and keep it as simple as possible, but I appreciate trying to understand how much per $100,000 of value is an important thing for people to understand.”

15. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, February 26, 2025

    2025-02-26 · 1341 lines

    • [4:47:30] “Yeah, I don't. And so I think it's worthy of consideration. And I would, I would just off the cuff suggest that that likely could go following the work program reports, which is a new thing that we've inserted. And then maybe that the program committee should report, perhaps there could be reports, the CEO's report is the other most prominent feature, which is somewhere else on the agenda.”
    • [2:08:27] “Seems then to answer perhaps Mr. Elliott's immediate question is that the report, which is quoted here as being in the agenda of December the 12th, item 15.1, should be included with this.”
    • [4:47:13] “But I did think about this, actually, and wondered about looking at the council agenda in this specific instance, where that might be a better place for it rather than the first thing.”

16. Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, February 20, 2025

    2025-02-20 · 432 lines

    • [0:00:32] “It's a, you know, it's a privilege to live here and reflect every day that I do, that this is the ancestral land of the Kosovo people, specifically here visiting your island today, that of the Senenmeybo people, since time immemorial.”
    • [0:31:21] “I could report on no doubt all sorts of things associated with the chair's role at a local level here, actually, not so much feet on the ground, but I certainly enjoy receiving correspondence from the community.”
    • [0:31:36] “And we did do that site visit at the Strand there a couple of weeks or almost a month ago now, maybe. And that was enlightening, especially the opportunity to meet some residents.”

17. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, February 19, 2025

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    • [2:39:39] “meeting in person and engaging in very meaningful and real ways, or if we don't provide opportunities”
    • [2:39:20] “some of them and others will support others. So we have to be careful about that, but I respect the”
    • [3:08:56] “adjusted to reduce the exec committee members to two and reduce the amount by nine thousand dollars”

18. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, February 18, 2025

    2025-02-18 · 437 lines

    • [0:38:52] “As part of that personal development process, we need to be sure that it actually happens. And that's, again, something that is dependent upon the incumbent to ensure that that happens. But we need to just recognize in that person's workload, there is a necessity to achieve those goals as well that are ultimately for the benefit of the organization.”
    • [0:05:54] “Okay, super. Thank you for raising that. Indeed, I was confused by that myself. That seems to start. So who was the last editor here? And is that the intention that it begins at 11? And there's nothing missing between one and 10 at this point? Toby Elliott, thank you.”
    • [1:14:12] “I'm going to go to the CAO and ask him what clarity he might need there, because it occurred to me, as some of the comments that came through, that this process itself would be embraced as part of an overall HR plan that initiates other similar events.”

19. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, February 5, 2025

    2025-02-05 · 728 lines

    • [4:25:04] “And I would also suggest that artwork on loan from galleries and museums may have significant environmental considerations that would also potentially cost us money in order to ensure that the artwork is being displayed and stored in an appropriate illuminated and environmentally controlled environment.”
    • [2:20:08] “That's a different thing. But I can't help but wonder, you know, in our plan to reallocate resources to do federation-wide planning, and Toby's maybe hinted at that, certainly the staff that have been helping a number of trust areas out with their work are doing fantastic work in those areas.”
    • [1:12:53] “So, definitely there's a need here to refine that process. But with that said, I don't think it's on the strategic plan. Reuben Broney, over to you for your representation on the Adam Strauss strategic plan. I think that's got your name on it.”

20. Thetis Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, February 4, 2025

    2025-02-04 · 301 lines

    • [1:22:10] “I move that the meeting be closed to the public in accordance with the Community Charter, Part 4, Division 3, Subsection 91A, for the purpose of considering a personal information about an identifiable individual who holds or is being considered for a position as an officer, employee, or agent of the municipality or another position appointed by the municipality, and by law enforcement.”
    • [0:42:10] “And certainly it's interesting to consider that you might use inflation as a measure, but I don't find that the inflationary numbers that are provided by the government, other government, levels of government, with respect to what inflation is, reflects my grocery bills or other expenses associated with living and associated with running a business and operating a local government.”
    • [0:25:53] “So, worthy of consideration. And then the derelict vehicles was raised in the bylaw enforcement activity on the lot 188, the PEG property, that the difficulty with them and the time that is taken to assert remediation of that property has been associated with the language in the LUB and the definition of a derelict vehicle.”

21. Islands Trust Governance Committee regular meeting, January 29, 2025

    2025-01-29 · 53 lines

    • [0:27:27] “So that those that are running as trustees and potentially their eye is on executive committee, what that means needs to be really clear and known. You can't change it in course.”
    • [0:27:13] “If we're going to make these changes in anticipation of a coming election, those changes need to be in place prior to that, substantially prior to that election.”
    • [0:39:35] “But I just wanted to chime in on what Trustee Bernardo expanded on that a little bit about as soon as it's practicable or whatever the language is that's used.”

22. Gambier Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, January 28, 2025

    2025-01-28 · 315 lines

    • [1:31:16] “Further. I'll move on. We advanced the work for bylaw enforcement. So that brings us to our work program. So indeed, our active projects and future projects. Are there any questions or updates either from staff on those or any questions about progress or any changes from trustees?”
    • [1:16:29] “I should have asked you to email it to staff as well, but they can get it up on the screen if you just articulate it clearly.”
    • [1:29:24] “And I'll just go to Marlis, and maybe if there's any other questions that have been raised, certainly we can have them here.”

23. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, January 22, 2025

    2025-01-22 · 39 lines

    • [1:15:49] “undermine our ability to govern by not meeting in person. And as Tim has pointed out, is our budget”
    • [0:57:51] “the trustees on Bowen to be able to explain it to the public as well to say, well, if you look at”
    • [1:15:59] “increase over and above whatever some standard might be that is determined? I just, I feel that”

24. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, January 15, 2025

    2025-01-15 · 992 lines

    • [3:49:22] “I also know that the sessions and the training that I have taken, which I would encourage others to get training on, it does indicate that the best practice is to seek approval or tacit approval or permission to conduct the meetings in a certain way so that when we cross the line to not behaving in the way that we agreed upon at the beginning of the meeting,”
    • [3:41:17] “Okay, thank you, everyone, for this discussion. And thank you, Vice Chair Elliott, for bringing this to the forefront. And I think that what we've heard is the CAO is certainly going to embrace that in the work that's ongoing. So I think we can look forward to some new fresh materials. So that's great. I'm going to continue on if that's all right.”
    • [4:41:30] “You know, I guess if a letter of support is much more general in context, then obviously the letter that the Islands Trust would write, which I wouldn't have difficulty with advancing as executive committee, is the work of the Raincoast Conservation with respect to this grant aligns with the climate change interests at the Islands Trust.”

25. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, January 13, 2025

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    • [0:39:42] “Okay. So, yeah, so signed off by the CAO, so that when we come around to the review period, we can say, we've got a list that we can work with and say, how's it going on these things and, and then gauge relative performance to accomplishments.”
    • [0:33:10] “I can't help but wonder, though, whether or not this is a visionary element of the organization in terms of its place of employment standards as to whether and whether or not that would be included in a position profile or not.”
    • [0:09:44] “And mostly I'm going to lean on David Marler here, actually, I think, because Nick is talking about essentially some in the long run here, some policy amendments and then indeed the budget item is also critical in that.”

26. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, December 19, 2024

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    • [0:07:22] “We've actually not been connected to the contracting or the discussion, and so we sort of need to know what it is you're doing, how that's going to contribute to the short-term evaluation in the first six-month period here, and what role you're going to play in supporting us in that with respect to the original contract work of finding CAO for us.”
    • [0:35:25] “We adopted that. And that was advice from Linda Adams when she was the CAO. And that was the model that was used. However, and it does provide that opportunity for those conversations to exist where that opportunity for feedback from the CAO exists, as well as feedback from the elected body to have that discussion.”
    • [0:02:39] “Okay, great. So, thank you and apologies for being late. Certainly, presuming that you've acknowledged that we're all meeting broadly on Coast Salish territory, and so I'll just chime in that I'm grateful to be here and grateful to have this opportunity with our new CAO, Ruben Brony. Good morning.”

27. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, December 18, 2024

    2024-12-18 · 683 lines

    • [1:34:21] “That's great. So my own remarks, the enhanced discipline is kind of the characterization there, but timing points of order and more particularly about rulings and what the points of order are, because, of course, by Robert's rules and general legislative parliamentarian authority has very specific requirements.”
    • [4:02:16] “right. So moved and seconded by Trustee Peterson. And so that's good. So that call for the vote. All those in favor? That carries. So for the public's benefit, while we're just wrapping up and going offline, we have been in the habit of reporting out from the Verizon report in camera at the next meeting.”
    • [2:15:36] “And ideally, in my mind, work with staff, maybe a couple of us on executive committee, I'm happy to throw my hat into that ring, work with Julia and perhaps the CAO and Alexandra, with your permission, CAO, to create a survey that is very directive, saying, yes, no, this term.”

28. Islands Trust Executive Committee community information meeting, December 9, 2024

    2024-12-09 · 95 lines

    • [0:22:52] “And there's an effort here to recognize the importance of above and beyond our legislative understanding, our colonial relationship with the land, which is very much a regulated mechanism, a legal mechanism, a Western legal mechanism, which alienated First Nations people from the land.”
    • [0:21:41] “Very difficult to define. We have some science to support us and back us up in doing that. But the spiritual and cultural relationship to the land is undefinable in my mind, except knowing that it exists and it's real and is important.”
    • [0:22:19] “Um, it's interesting to note that this particular bylaw amendment, this particular development permit area is another layer of an existing set of regulation that has not included, um, Aboriginal peoples, First Nations and tribes.”

29. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, December 5, 2024

    2024-12-05 · 540 lines

    • [3:30:03] “I think it's reasonable, 12.2.2, but let's pause for a moment and speak to the first item that was raised as a point of, you know, technically a point of order, that the letter from Bowen Island Municipality to be received. Is there a response to Bowen Island Municipality? Trustee Elliott, what would you like to do?”
    • [1:07:33] “Certainly, the last letter that we worked on together, advocacy, is certainly worthwhile in my mind. The uptake from the government and industry has been less than stellar, and so we still are not necessarily being heard about that vessel from the Canadian side being positioned in Sydney.”
    • [0:28:46] “And so, ferries, we have, I'll just open that up, and there's other people who can speak more effectively than I can, but BC Ferries, the largest fleet of vessels in the country, significant employer, moving millions of people back and forth constantly.”

30. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, December 3, 2024

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    • [0:28:51] “thank you, Ben. Let's just pause for a second. Events of, you were right, Ben. Let me just say that. Events of, everything's in flux and change as we move towards producing an agenda. This report was, this quarterly meeting agenda was packaged up 10 days ago.”
    • [3:38:18] “Thank you for your report. And I'll just ask if the trustees have any questions with respect to the Honest Trust Conservancy report. Otherwise, we will be receiving that for information. It's in your package. Anybody have any questions?”
    • [0:31:29] “I sort of spoke in general terms here earlier, but on specific terms with respect to the meeting of September, the council meeting in September, the video recording, and the response and the feedback we've received post-meeting.”

31. Gambier Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, November 26, 2024

    2024-11-26 · 853 lines

    • [3:39:12] “That concludes that. Thank you. And we have listened and we've taken all of what we heard very seriously. And I hope that that's understood. We're going to move to correspondence. It appears we haven't received any recently. So I'm going to skip over that. No new business. This brings us to staff reports. And the first item here of significance. And Jason Yeomans, thank you for joining us. 12.1 Phase 4 Community Engagement Options for the Policy Statement.”
    • [3:13:47] “So the question would be, the guidelines necessary to do this, and it's a reasonable idea, would those have to be embedded in the OCP, or can they be independent of that, and therefore can we advance the OCP and LUB at this time, and have you develop those guidelines either once we've concluded that process, or otherwise?”
    • [2:14:03] “And in fact, we saw that today. Yes, the previous application. It's a it's an you couldn't have planned it better. Actually, that's a good example for us. So let's come back at 1245. And I think we have to cut to the chase and advance this. I don't think we can drag this out any longer. So please come back.”

32. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, November 13, 2024

    2024-11-13 · 153 lines

    • [1:34:49] “And I said that at the outset, this information that you're seeing here today is being presented in a more prescriptive fashion, which I think executive committee and staff are certainly encouraging us and supporting us in this is being more transparent with the operation and the funds that the executive committee is asking for.”
    • [3:40:51] “But nonetheless, one of the hats is all of the additional policy work, specific policy work, that needs full attention, in addition to her role as the Director of Trust Area Services, coordinating all of the activities and working with the Executive Committee and the policy statement.”
    • [1:32:06] “So then starting at item eight, history and heritage conservation grants and aid, planning applications, NAPTEP applications, these are elements that are funding that has been requested and available to us in previous terms to fund community-led projects and interests.”

33. Thetis Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, November 12, 2024

    2024-11-12 · 247 lines

    • [1:05:42] “And I understand that they made an application to work on, I don't have this terminology that they're necessarily using, but some kind of a road-based network trail system or walkway safe access along the road network, particularly between the school and the ferry and other areas on the island.”
    • [0:45:52] “Obtaining a fair and reasonable budget increase, I am interested in advancing option number two and would be happy to make that motion with the understanding that staff would be able to join us at such a town hall within a regular business meeting.”
    • [0:51:55] “So my inclination would be to book the board room and then my inclination would be to make those two in-person meetings that are necessary, the June and July ones, so that we can embrace the summer traffic on the island in the July time frame.”

34. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, November 8, 2024

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    • [0:52:53] “And just wanting to note that, you know, at the end of that last term, there was some change in the chairing of the Laskiti LTC and indeed, you know, almost three years of work, four years of work had gone into the OCP amendment process there, which was essentially community led.”
    • [0:54:37] “But just think that that's important to note that let's not lose sight of collaborating and working with others in maybe new and different ways than we've done in the past.”
    • [3:28:22] “We are very fortunate to have William Shulba as a freshwater specialist, and that's an uppercase specialist on our team and is doing amazing and significant work.”

35. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, November 5, 2024

    2024-11-05 · 94 lines

    • [1:24:55] “It's been enlightening, and I can definitely see from the conversation there's room for improvement and room for understanding.”
    • [0:51:09] “the direction and request is unclear. And I don't know whether or not we necessarily agree with the”
    • [0:50:23] “reason for this business case being here is that if there is a desire to act on this recommendation”

36. Islands Trust Programs Committee regular meeting, November 4, 2024

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    • [0:45:22] “of the future amendments to the priority. So sorry if I'm stating the obvious, but I just thought it”
    • [0:44:24] “policy statement in its present form or whatever iteration of it that is determined to get advanced”
    • [0:43:56] “can be reviewed and amended at various points in time as we progress through taking on this work.”

37. Islands Trust Executive Committee regular meeting, October 30, 2024

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    • [3:38:46] “options being turning some of the teleconferences into electronic meetings and or in-person meetings, but essentially increasing the frequency of meetings in some small way and identifying what the potential budget increases would be of, let's say, having four additional in-person meetings a year.”
    • [2:20:18] “And if I see nods around the room, I'll just ask Director Mobs if you need any specific direction for that. At this time, I realize this is a bit of a side conversation on the schedule in front of us, but we can pick that up later in our agenda as new business, if you thought it was necessary.”
    • [0:00:34] “You know, I reflect every day that when I wake up about the place that I live and that this is Coast Salish Territory and the people of those nations that are all across British Columbia and for all that matter, the indigenous people all across Canada have been here since time immemorial.”

38. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, October 24, 2024

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    • [0:35:38] “So this takes us to corporate accountabilities without a stress organization and employees. There's two items there. I'm going to ignore the numbering there. Create and maintain an annual corporate planning process.”
    • [0:22:54] “But so if I'm perceiving then if you're taking notes or somebody's taking notes that maybe we would have a break where that those edits could be made and then it could come back to us as a final version.”
    • [0:02:05] “Acknowledging that interest is out there. And I've had a bit of a conversation with Julia about that as well. But anyway, let's not discuss that here. So that said, Laura, Patrick, you had something?”

39. Islands Trust Financial Planning Committee regular meeting, October 23, 2024

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    • [2:23:00] “One is leadership and council advancing this policy statement in the fashion that it seems appropriate to it, because certainly in the last number of months, there's been not a lot of feedback with respect to it.”
    • [2:24:07] “The resources are limited already, and so let's just be cognizant of we need to take a stronger leadership role in advancing this if we're not going to do more public outreach.”
    • [2:23:27] “be cautious of that. But what we're going to do is if we don't want to spend money on doing public”

40. Thetis Island Local Trust Committee public hearing, October 22, 2024

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    • [0:12:09] “I move that the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee has reviewed the Island's Trust Policy Statement Directive's only checklist and determined that Bylaw No. 115, cited as the Valdez Island Rural Land Use Bylaw 1998, Amendment No. 1, 2024, is not contrary to or at variance with the Island's Trust Policy Statement.”
    • [0:11:55] “So I just wanted to say that out loud because certainly this has been a really good lesson learned here for myself anyway.”
    • [0:11:44] “We should look towards an opportunity to remove roadblocks while continuing to respect the natural environment.”

41. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, September 26, 2024

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    • [0:04:20] “We're going to defer the planning staff time tracking. It's a briefing. I'm assuming you've read it. You can reach out to staff if you have any questions. So that's okay. We're just going to receive that for information.”
    • [0:44:18] “Could I have a seconder? Susan Yates. Thank you. Any further discussion on the second part of this initiative? Not seeing any. I'm going to call the vote. All those in favor?”
    • [1:13:02] “And we'll thank the delegates and those that attended to provide comment and appreciate them taking the time out of their days to present to us.”

42. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, September 25, 2024

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    • [7:18:42] “Okay, so then I'm going to take it then that the items at 9.11 and 9.12 be received for information. And we're going to continue on to the discussion and decision items in this section. The first being at 9.2.1, page 265 of the agenda, bylaw and compliance enforcement policy review updates. So this is a request for decision. And Director Sturmeck has put the podium there. So I'm assuming you're going to start us off.”
    • [4:47:51] “We should definitely consider this going forward, but what I was going to say before that was we have to continuously look at this document as a whole, and each one of these objectives indeed links to a principle and a priority, and so in that objective three, it happens to be about, let me scroll there, preserving and protecting healthy and biodiverse ecosystems.”
    • [8:34:08] “So I think we have six or eight people, maybe more on the speaker's list on this. I would like I would like to actually go to a vote because I haven't heard a lot. There is a motion in the wings to take it back to RPC. Oh, I'm not going to then. So, OK, that was what I heard half an hour ago or 20 minutes ago. So what do you want to do, counsel?”

43. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, September 9, 2024

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    • [2:53:16] “This is an inadequate communication between committees in order to develop a strategic approach to the overall work that we do, despite the fact that the common purpose and goals and objectives of these bodies is to support local trust committees and land use planning and council and policy development.”
    • [0:31:09] “I'm just wondering whether David expects some direction with respect to the edits that exist and that this would be as intended as an interim change to the policy in order to set up the meeting schedule synchronized with the fiscal year sooner than later, or is this just going to sit?”
    • [2:40:20] “Yeah, sorry about that. Yeah, whether this came from Executive Committee to Governance Committee, I don't honestly recall. Apologies for that. However, certainly this has been a discussion at Executive Committee and never achieves a high enough level of priority to be undertaken.”

44. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, September 4, 2024

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    • [3:58:19] “Maybe I missed something here about this merging together, or maybe I'm just picking up other threads from somewhere else, but the administrative fairness complaint and code of conduct and behavior and all that sort of stuff all kind of dovetails together into that section, more so than bylaw enforcement or offending the OCP or bylaws, so to speak.”
    • [5:36:44] “There's a gray line in the sand that I'm concerned about, and we're talking here about spending money for something that is not really in the strategic plan, unless I'm wrong, and the funding that's available to the committee isn't necessarily allocated for this specific purpose.”
    • [2:59:44] “Certainly, that doesn't necessarily require trespassing on the person's property or gaining access to the property.”

45. Islands Trust Financial Planning Committee regular meeting, August 28, 2024

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    • [4:01:16] “So, therefore, I suggest that, indeed, this needs to happen much earlier. In fact, immediately after the budget is adopted, or six months at the maximum after the budget is adopted, let's ask the question and state it in a positive framework, definitely supporting Trustees Evans' words there, is this is what we're spending your money on this term.”
    • [1:31:34] “But it is staff ultimately that create the business case based upon the wishes of the LTC to do some particular work. And so I don't know that that's terribly challenging to say, is there space in that business case to facilitate a reduction of 1%, which may be one less meeting or whatever, based upon the discussion of an LTC.”
    • [0:54:16] “When we're talking about, we need to be clear here, when we're talking about discretionary expenses or even non-discretionary expenses about fixing those things at a zero increase, we obviously need to take into fact the cost of living and inflation and PSA increases.”

46. Islands Trust Programs Committee regular meeting, August 26, 2024

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    • [0:16:09] “And I think, and Claire, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm going to say that it's at least 12 years ago that this became the elephant in the room, because council chose not to amend the policy statement significantly 12 years ago.”
    • [0:16:38] “But the fact that it was behind 12 years ago with a list of suggested amendments and because everything has changed in the governing universe, it's become, you know, I think this elephant in the room, so to speak.”
    • [0:16:25] “And, of course, in that intervening time between now and then, resources and capacity have been challenged across the organization.”

47. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, August 21, 2024

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    • [2:32:36] “That's great. I guess my question on this is, how can we highlight this in a more significant, not more significant way beyond new property owners? Like, I'm thinking about developers and those that have large land holdings that have potential to do some of this work that is important and indicated in here on an affordable scale.”
    • [2:17:59] “Yeah. I think some trustees would appreciate it to be able to use it as a refresher. And as you've indicated, as separate documents. So I do wonder, Director Frater, whether or not that material could be a schedule or an addendum to the agenda so that it is part of it, but is also discreet.”
    • [1:28:34] “no, that's what I was trying to understand. So then, therefore, I would say, by general consent, let's just say, if that's all right, CEO Mobs, that the proposed Trust Council Committee chairs would provide a written or verbal report on the activities of the committee,”

48. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, August 15, 2024

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    • [1:10:59] “Hey, let's get together and talk about the details of this. And that likely would be an invitation more so to the executive committee, which I would assume would also, I would like to see that extended to the governance committee body to indeed have that conversation face to face with the province with respect to what it is that we're actually asking for.”
    • [1:09:17] “This is kind of a placeholder. And the question is pretty simple. We want your attention on this topic that we've raised before. Certainly, there's some political rationale for getting this out now and creating something of an election platform and all that sort of stuff.”
    • [0:23:52] “This, that is certainly something that needs to see some action and commitment to advancing. And that needs, and obviously the Islands Trust Act needs to be worked on in parallel to that, as well as anything associated with incorporation of municipalities.”

49. Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, August 8, 2024

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    • [0:01:18] “And at the Islands Trust, we are conscious of that and want to work towards reconciliation, want to sort out the inequities and injustices that have occurred and fix many things that we simply need to as a governing body and appreciate the opportunity to have that work and take it seriously, which I do.”
    • [2:13:12] “that's fair enough. And you're absolutely right. But I think that this embraces that request staff to write a letter in that engagement of staff that will engage other staff resources, I think, to facilitate that.”
    • [0:00:26] “We live here in Coast Salish Territory and beautiful summer days like this would, for me, just highlight the magnificence of this place and the people that have lived here since time immemorial.”

50. Gambier Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, July 31, 2024

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    • [0:02:42] “And so we're here to listen to that. And there'll be an introduction to that section when we get there. And then when we've concluded that section, we'll come back into the special meeting and determine further direction associated with the bylaw and the new business item that I just added.”
    • [0:55:17] “me, sir. I don't want to continue to debate this because I can help you or at least advise you that we do have legal opinion and decisions have been, bylaws zoning on the surface of the water has been upheld in the courts on numerous occasions.”
    • [0:00:00] “Well, good morning, everyone. Really great to see such a terrific turnout. I think this is only the second public hearing I've done to the Gambier-Keats Trust here, and we always have a good turnout. Fantastic. Thank you for being here today.”

51. Islands Trust Executive Committee regular meeting, July 24, 2024

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    • [1:54:50] “I'd also note that, you know, two things, actually. It would be interesting to think that LTCs might initiate protocols. And if we had a mechanism to do that, that might be a good way to go. But clearly what Tim pointed out earlier was we've had difficulty with the management of existing protocols and existing conversations with nations right down to the individual letter level.”
    • [4:49:12] “I think I have utilized that in the past, but on our expense sheet, there's an expense associated, I think, with billeting where that, and I've always assumed that's an opportunity to flip 30 bucks, it's like only 30 bucks or 40 bucks or something to your host to make sure the laundry gets done and that sort of thing. Is that correct, CAO Mobs?”
    • [5:31:36] “I do have a kind of a general question here, or a specific question actually, that Stefan might be able to answer, because it's noted here in the third paragraph, fourth paragraph of that letter at the end of that paragraph, that a formal apology was never made because Ross Hotzenbiller said that he would meet with Cowlitz and Nation staff.”

52. Thetis Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, July 9, 2024

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    • [0:41:26] “If there was a significant fire on Ruxton Island, potentially the damage could be significant and that in a large scale fire, the ambers and the like that potentially could spread to the other islands in the region, including Vancouver Island, would also set those communities at risk.”
    • [0:41:47] “And so water is an important thing, and I'm grateful to Director McClinton for having spent a significant amount of time to understand the issues on Rockland and find a creative way to assist them in their fire service.”
    • [0:59:22] “So we would want to have the ability to bring that person in and broadcast that on a screen in our hall to respect the amount of time that would be necessary for someone to come to the Thetis meeting.”

53. Islands Trust Council special meeting, July 8, 2024

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    • [0:14:40] “That would be, you know, outside of determining that we want to sequentially go through a list of potential individuals interested to seek nominations for somebody that would like to chair the next committee as a whole.”
    • [0:14:58] “And I think it would be fair to ask if Trust Council is ready for that at this particular moment in time of our meeting.”
    • [0:00:05] “today's agenda we have um my name is peter luckham i'm the chair of islands trust council um normally”

54. Islands Trust Executive Committee regular meeting, July 3, 2024

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    • [2:10:08] “Okay, so let's leave that in place. Now, we're a wee bit ahead of schedule here. There was a desire to amend the decision highlights. Have you had any opportunity to think about that or should we pause at this time, maybe take a 15 minute break and you could do that and then we'll come back and then we'll just wrap up this meeting.”
    • [0:36:30] “And so I want to make sure that there's a, if we're not including it in the agenda package, which people use as their reading document in order to determine whether or not they need to attend council and make a presentation at public comment period or not.”
    • [0:36:12] “But I guess my concern with all of this is ensuring that the public have access to the materials, because, of course, these meetings are a public opportunity, and the materials in the package don't just inform trustees, but inform the public.”

55. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, June 18, 2024

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    • [0:56:18] “And despite the fact that the ferry terminal was wiped out by a school bus about two weeks ago, backed into it, knocked it off the blocks and is now condemned, the Gavi dock, which has been in desperate need of repairs for many years, actually got started on the repairs until apparently the CVRD hadn't done sufficient archaeological investigation to determine that there was an archaeological site there,”
    • [4:15:20] “And we'll pick up whatever we can on Trust Area Services before we break at 545 to hear from the inclusive governance session from Adam Olson, who I don't think I mentioned that he is attending the session electronically.”
    • [5:25:58] “And Nathan Collins, indeed, did, you know, potentially the right thing in saying, well, we're not going to make the decision now, but post-election, we can help you with that decision.”

56. Islands Trust Executive Committee community information meeting, June 18, 2024

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    • [0:12:58] “So I'll just turn to the applicant to see if you have any remarks or new information you'd like to share with us, and that you concur with the recommendation of staff.”
    • [0:32:53] “Okay. So, the applicant, you had something to add there, or does that sound like a reasonable thing that we're attempting to do here?”
    • [0:07:47] “I was planning on going up to visit them to attend that meeting in person, but then it was cancelled and turned into electronic.”

57. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, May 30, 2024

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    • [0:01:36] “That is not the case. And I've been advised again on that this morning, that there was some misunderstanding in the process. We will be going into a Trust Council meeting proper at one o'clock today to have a special electronic meeting. Is that correct, David Marlowe, Legislative Services Manager?”
    • [2:29:14] “So the hand up in the boardroom, I just want to flag maybe Director Freyder, if you have any remarks on the potential for help that we might find from the province on this, if that seems appropriate, with respect to Trustee Boland's question there.”
    • [0:00:26] “So my name is Peter Luck. I'm elected on Thetis Island, and that trust area is in the territories of the Penelope and Alaskan nations, and I'm grateful to live and work here and have the honor to do this work that we're here to do today.”

58. Islands Trust Council special meeting, May 30, 2024

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    • [0:05:38] “I'll raise my own hand just for the record. Okay. It looks like I've got two trustees that are not”
    • [0:01:54] “Thank you. Please go ahead. So I'm going to adopt the agenda as presented by general consent. And”
    • [0:01:41] “here, which simply has a closed session as the one item. Are there any amendments to the agenda?”

59. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, May 29, 2024

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    • [1:26:31] “But I can't help but wonder with the amount of conversation that we've had here already, just in a committee, when we're not being clear on the messaging, I wonder why we have to say anything at all in the annual report about the lack of a survey, because it's just going to do exactly the same thing, raise this question for which we don't seem to have a full answer.”
    • [1:26:14] “It's not a matter of judging the intelligence of an individual, but the fact that if we're not asking the right questions or providing enough information, then the ability to be able to provide feedback is limited.”
    • [1:26:55] “But I think, indeed, if we do say anything, it's about redeveloping the framework and ideas around the tool and implementing the tool in a different way, particularly in light of the corporate plan.”

60. Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, May 24, 2024

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    • [1:43:44] “Once this is completed, I think that this also obviously needs to be part of the orientation of new trustees as time moves on so that there's clarity around bylaw enforcement.”
    • [1:43:57] “Bylaw enforcement often gets more, you know, I wouldn't say more attention with respect to bylaw, but there's more interest in bylaw enforcement as time goes on.”
    • [1:44:16] “I'm assuming to some extent that there's a bylaw enforcement officer's manual that exists that comes from the training programs that you all undertake.”

61. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, May 15, 2024

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    • [2:45:00] “So in any, it strikes me that we need a report of some kind with options and recommendations. I think that from an administrative perspective, I don't know that executive committee necessarily needs to be waiving fees for events of which, let's just say in the summertime, there could be a dozen events if people catch on to this, and that we'd be spending our time doing that administrative”
    • [4:00:07] “All right. So 10.3 in the middle there is, this is just reporting out. We don't often see court orders on our desk, but there's one from Justice Saunders regarding Canada Northwest Enterprise, where Salt Springs Islands Local Trust Committee's decision with respect to that application was upheld.”
    • [3:31:25] “And so if there's a policy about attendance of meetings, then there also needs to be a policy or an element of it in the code of conduct, because indeed, the citizens have the expectations that will be attending the meetings as a duly elected representative of their community.”

62. Islands Trust Governance Committee regular meeting, May 13, 2024

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    • [2:51:20] “And then we need to figure out when we're actually going to stage this, because, of course, we're about to see a transition to government and there'll be different ministers and there'll be different agendas and different objectives.”
    • [2:50:39] “Or vice versa. 168-lot islands, actually, are tiny, have also disproportionate electoral capabilities. So I think we need to drill into this stuff in a structured way, get the ideas on the table, and have a conversation around them.”
    • [0:52:34] “And then the EC would absolutely take that under advisement. But it would be very helpful for somebody other than staff and executive committee to say, we think this draft code of conduct is what you should be considering.”

63. Thetis Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, April 30, 2024

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    • [1:09:08] “But I'll just fall back a little bit from that there and just say, out of respect for so many very necessary OCP and LUB amendments throughout the honest trust area, the Thetis OCP and LUB is not a high priority with respect to the Federation because we've made that investment.”
    • [1:07:47] “And day to day, outside of broader social issues, affordable housing and our commitments to reconciliation and economic opportunities associated with vacation rentals, there's not really anything, I think, wrong with the OCP and LEB at this time.”
    • [0:26:30] “But I think I can set you in the right direction. And then that would be the financial staff, I think, that would be able to maybe give you some more connections to more detailed information.”

64. Islands Trust Regional Planning Committee special meeting, April 25, 2024

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    • [1:38:45] “But I think the indication from the CAO when consideration came up in the discussion about purchasing spaces as a good long-term plan versus leasing, it's clear that that would be a project in itself and relocating would be a project in itself.”
    • [2:12:34] “It also potentially requires an OCP amendment, but again, that can be done through an application which would be funded by whomever was interested in acquiring that particular use on that particular property. Is that correct?”
    • [1:39:02] “And that we need to consider that well in advance of any lease expiration that is forthcoming because we obviously need to continue to secure space for the operation for the business to continue. That's it for me. Thanks.”

65. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, April 24, 2024

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    • [4:56:23] “But I'm certainly happy to communicate with the mayor of Bowen, and perhaps the CAO might want to communicate with the CAO. We could do that together. But we could also say that we continue to stand behind our decision, and that would be pretty clear. But obviously, we need to read that carefully and be sure that we're on that same understanding.”
    • [0:03:22] “I will note that perhaps it's appropriate, Alexandra, to remove item type 10.2 from correspondence regarding Rob Botterall's request to present to June Trust Council because I have received and perhaps others have received notification that he will be unable to join us in June.”
    • [3:56:03] “And so, presumably, as this new person is onboarded, there will be an opportunity to, you know, interview, for want of a better word, the Trust Conservancy staff to determine what their needs are and then see how that fits into whatever work plan that there is.”

66. Islands Trust Council special meeting, April 17, 2024

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    • [0:19:09] “So that's it for the remarks. The one thing I would like to add, because I really struggled this morning in getting ready for the meeting. And the part that I had to struggle with was the beautiful, I'll just say, the beautiful graphic that has the timeline all laid out with those beautiful timelines and all that kind of stuff.”
    • [0:18:40] “So that's my sort of framework. I would like to stick with the idea of laying out the path now and providing the opportunity for flexibility and variations as it becomes apparent, in fact, following definitely along David Maud's suggestion that we need to gauge the level of interest and the nature of this as we go forward.”
    • [0:34:03] “Sure, there's plenty of time and we can take as long as we want to do, but I think it is important to maintain forward momentum because, of course, the longer we wait, the more public interest will be stirring and building and attempting to influence outcomes, which is a good thing.”

67. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, March 27, 2024

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    • [1:07:46] “And although it was a struggle through the financial discussion with the online, and it was the online members, somehow the communication, I don't want to lay blame on anybody. The technology is challenging. Overseas may be even more challenging than local, but even local was problematic.”
    • [3:15:47] “Thank you. So trust, September Trust Council invitation to Coast Salish leaders discussion. Now this was a Toby recommended item here. Perhaps I'll just defer that one up until we just run out of time and provide the opportunity for Toby to address that if that's all right.”
    • [3:35:30] “And I'm afraid that that just is a horror story. I would hate to have our version of that come to pass. But clearly, that was a vessel that was out of control. The pilot called Mayday, and it took out the major transportation corridor in Brooklyn completely.”

68. Islands Trust Executive Committee regular meeting, February 28, 2024

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    • [4:37:01] “Thank you, Tim, for bringing this forward. It is important. And there was some enthusiasm by the minister to assist us, but yeah, we have to find the space for it. So I'm going to move to 9.2.1, LTC Chair's Report on Local Advocacy. Is there anything there? Anybody? No? Okay.”
    • [4:48:32] “You want the chair as the chair of executive committee could respond to these nine individuals by sending them a form letter that said that and I would have to work with Alexandra for that because I know the contact information is deleted for many of these that I could”
    • [3:16:42] “And so, okay, so 7.42, Tyler would like to speak to that. So, Vice Chairs, are there any other items in there, 7.4.1 through 7.4.8 that you would like to seek some clarity on or discuss? Trustee Elliott, which one?”

69. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, February 23, 2024

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    • [0:47:43] “that I and others also think were not made in that report, and certainly as Trustee Patrick has, perhaps it was, indicated that some of their, in their terms of reference, there was areas that were out of bounds, but indeed, some of those areas that are out of bounds are indeed fundamental”
    • [1:38:37] “We just kind of received it at face value. And I think if we're hiring, we're spending money on hiring a consultant, we want to make the most effective use of their time by knowing what the most important areas of clarification that we require in order to get that information.”
    • [1:15:53] “And so, you know, all of this work needs to come together to determine the direction that we want to take on the original topics. And just dropping in on the consensus thing, I think that indeed, perhaps we have consensus on separating these things.”

70. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, February 21, 2024

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    • [4:01:20] “I think we're going to do this policy that's in the works. It's going to get done. And it would be great to have the tools to implement a new bylaw enforcement process this year rather than spreading it out till next year. Because sure, we can get the policies, but the ability to do some better work on the ground is the other half of this.”
    • [4:46:03] “There is a notion that exists out there about the off-island chair, and not having the chair attending in-person meetings on an island would only continue to support this off-island chair concept as not being consequential in the decision-making of the LTC.”
    • [2:48:04] “Thank you. I guess what's on my mind here as I'm listening to this conversation is deferring and putting off work. And I really have to ask the question is, when do we budget for doing this work and how long do we put it off for or do we just not do it?”

71. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, February 16, 2024

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    • [3:57:49] “You know, we're overly ambitious with what we think that we can do and want to do and what we might be able to contribute to partners, because I think what we have to ask ourselves if we're going to other folks about we would like to contribute to that and we would like to benefit from it.”
    • [3:58:13] “What is it that we actually can bring to the table to contribute in a meaningful way that would entice those other parties to engage with us? Because our own needs are pretty grandiose, and we are limited with resources.”
    • [3:58:32] “So before we go out and commit to, hey, we'll help you with that project, we need to really identify what resources we have to be able to offer up in those scenarios.”

72. Islands Trust Programs Committee regular meeting, February 14, 2024

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    • [0:04:26] “parents and five boys believe it or not. I finally settled in Canada about 1975 myself and lived on”
    • [1:09:40] “it's early to report out but certainly um one of the obvious uh pieces in the work of council here”
    • [0:04:19] “and indeed my family immigrated to Canada in 1963 from the United Kingdom. Mary and Peter were my”

73. Islands Trust Conservancy Board special meeting, February 1, 2024

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    • [0:27:09] “I'm sort of lost in what's obviously a much bigger, much bigger philosophical question about equity and taxes, because I don't know that the area of the Island's Trust and the residents herein are any different than the people in Port Alberni or Tassus or any other community that is”
    • [0:55:49] “But I'm in support of this notion. It captures an admirable proposition. I just think that perhaps a different example might be used as opposed to comparing technology to people that do things.”
    • [0:56:07] “Of course, if you don't have pencils or computers to do mapping, which was the conversation we had the other day, then the people that you have aren't necessarily able to do really good work.”

74. Islands Trust Executive Committee regular meeting, January 31, 2024

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    • [4:24:07] “And certainly every conversation we have with the province always, and in fact, you know, I was quite excited when Minister Cullen, in the last go round of ministers, I thought really understood the point that there needs to be some different funding model associated with conservancy work at the Islands Trust, because at this moment, it's only the taxpayers of the Islands Trust area that pay for it.”
    • [4:02:47] “Sure. And I'm inclined to turn back to Risa again here, but just ask that, do you understand the concerns, I guess, expressed by Risa there about some of what she, and I'm not going to try and articulate what she said, but the remarks that she made there with respect to some shortfalls associated with collaboration and the tools available to us?”
    • [4:45:31] “And we just simply need to make more. In fact, I think we said thank you to you. You've said we should meet more often. So let's try and do that. The next conversation already has one item on the agenda. And I think that quite likely both of these topics that you brought forward to us today might be on a future on the next future agenda.”

75. Gambier Island Local Trust Committee special meeting, January 29, 2024

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    • [0:38:29] “And I think that probably Stefan summarized it reasonably well after the conversation that I had with him that, indeed, we want to try and advance this in as quick and smooth a process as possible. And it looks like we can meet the deadlines accordingly. And that if this LTC can make a decision today to request an analysis.”
    • [0:39:05] “I'm just introducing, letting you know what I've heard and setting out some, I'm going to lay out some suggestions that if this can be advanced in a good way, then it's up to you to do that. And so thank you, Trustee Bernardo. And indeed, let's go to planning staff for their advice on this topic.”
    • [0:21:39] “So, of course, I'm new to this LTC, relatively speaking, and so perhaps I'll just ask Planner McCargar, is this the intention that we, as we would normally just make a comment to the Sunshine Coast Regional District, whether or not our interests are affected, or is this different?”

76. Islands Trust Executive Committee special meeting, January 9, 2024

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    • [0:30:29] “the only concern, and I would suggest we just leave that word in. And the reason for that would be, and I'm sure that you're familiar with this, is that often there is a pole or an erection of a sign of some sort on a shoreline, and it could even be on a pole within the marine environment, for all that matters, indicating that there's a buried cable so that people don't anchor on it.”
    • [1:30:24] “Okay, thank you very much. That carries. So I think that concludes it. I just want to acknowledge here, as we're reminded by public comment in public comment period is that, indeed, this technological technological advancement that has land use and environmental impacts does have an impact, and is further advancing colonial interests.”
    • [1:33:55] “So it's not like if we receive information that makes us want to amend the bylaw that we'd have to go back to public hearing, we would maybe have to waive public hearing a second time, but we can make amendments before final adoption.”

77. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, December 20, 2023

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    • [3:09:42] “So I see Trustee Elliott's head is nodding, but thumbs up from there. Trustee Peterson, thumbs up. David, thumbs up. I got to say, one of my comments is on 1.4, and it's exactly, it's not your words, but support links and facts. That's an important topic. So that's great. So I would say you have endorsement from this body.”
    • [1:17:26] “Thank you, David. From my own reflections, I can't help but think about the, there's a Hugh Jackman movie out there, The Greatest Show on Earth, I think it's called, when the ringleader or whatever they call him, you know, has to orchestrate this event.”
    • [0:24:31] “Procedures, it does strike me that this media piece, because we've talked about going to a broad statement for all LTCs and all bodies, that that media piece needs to be embraced in some fashion, in a wholesome fashion.”

78. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, December 6, 2023

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    • [6:21:43] “It's been relatively quiet recently, so nothing too recent because it's gone through two environmental impact studies, of which the most recent in consulting with local communities and indigenous groups determined that in order for the project to go forward, there are 370 legally binding conditions that need to be met.”
    • [3:19:13] “Remember, this is Salt Spring Island. There aren't many, if any, suitable locations. So that's why it's slim. We're trying to put money into the budget because at the end of the day, that office will close when the lease expires and we need to be prepared to move somewhere else.”
    • [1:06:04] “And when we come into a conversation to say, as so many of you have said already today, I think, and indeed this piece here, and let's call it a draft, because I don't think it becomes real after we decide we endorse this draft or not today.”

79. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, December 5, 2023

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    • [0:45:08] “But I think the one that is referred to, which is also about ferries, is that the ferry that we – it was a remarkable thing at BC Ferries, actually, is they bought a ferry from somewhere down in the U.S., cut it into four pieces, and brought it up to Canada, and refitted it slightly wider and longer than it was originally, and then blessed Thetis Island with a completely rebuilt ferry.”
    • [0:13:18] “And we adopted that one gone forward. Certainly, there's room for improvement, and I would be happy to have that as an agenda item. But I just want you to know that the process has begun. And indeed, the mechanisms I was involved in hiring at the CAO in the past, and we have adopted actually a practice as much like what's indicated in the materials provided.”
    • [4:23:45] “And so the underlying plot there, you've probably figured it out, because we've got a few minutes remaining. And I just recognize that Risa Smith has been with us all this time, and I'm not sure if she's available tomorrow or not. And so I would like to provide the opportunity for Risa to present that report if five minutes is enough for you, Risa.”

80. Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee special meeting, November 28, 2023

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    • [0:03:26] “Lisa Millard is our minute taker in the background and also want to recognize Will Cottingham, who also looks after our technology and makes sure these Zoom meetings happen and does the live streaming and broadcasting.”
    • [0:03:10] “So William Schubler is our freshwater specialist, and he's going to do a lot of the heavy lifting here today, so I appreciate that.”
    • [0:42:25] “process and indeed the question that existed when that taxation model was being created was how were”

81. Gambier Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, November 21, 2023

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    • [3:02:23] “So should we just start on page 47, and we'll just go through section to section and just basically look for a yay or nay of support the change as presented, which helped me out to plan a Macargar would mean then, like, let's just take that first one on page 47, 1.1, that the red and the purple that are there are what we would endorse and what's been struck out would be endorsed as being struck out.”
    • [0:57:38] “Because, of course, the reason the zoning exists is not to single out any particular application that comes forward, but to ensure that there's a conformity of a process that exists across the region, and we don't set precedents by altering our processes to facilitate what's perceived as a community need.”
    • [0:59:18] “that's the case. I understand that. Okay. So I just don't know that we need to belabor this too much today. The issue is well understood. And I think that if the applicant is listening, potential applicant is listening, let's get that application in and we can process it.”

82. Islands Trust Regional Planning Committee regular meeting, November 15, 2023

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    • [5:06:23] “yeah, just thank you very much for the resolution to the committee and just want to, you know, provide a hint to Stefan Cermak, I guess, is to, it is obviously a benefit to all of us to have as complete a list as we can possibly include in that letter to provide specific direction to the individual applications.”
    • [4:48:58] “And then, of course, the biggest, if there is a problem, it's attracting property owners and funders, not just government, to the table to bring the land into the equation and bring the economic benefits to those that develop to fund housing projects.”
    • [4:47:55] “And the government ultimately really wants to be able to set its goals in parallel with the goals of local government and wants to provide assistance and support to either find solutions or fund solutions in a way to facilitate healthy communities.”

83. Islands Trust Governance Committee regular meeting, November 9, 2023

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    • [0:30:00] “at the Allen's Trust, one of the considerations is that limitation is associated with remuneration.”
    • [0:29:39] “public service agency have remunerated at and that represents challenges when the private sector so”
    • [0:30:18] “recruit and retain staff members may be affected by competitive remuneration associated with other”

84. Islands Trust Financial Planning Committee regular meeting, November 8, 2023

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    • [0:22:38] “But, you know, I'm just going to go with the flow here at the moment and just say that I would move that the Financial Planning Committee remove item number one from the follow-up action list until it's such time that Financial Planning Committee formulates a strategy for addressing broader building permit issues in the Islanders Trust.”
    • [4:36:26] “So I just wanted to speak to the policy statement topic, because that's a good question that you've raised there. And certainly it may not be visible to trustees at this time. But even two days ago, it was reported to me that another nation had accepted capacity funding to engage with us on the policy statement.”
    • [0:22:12] “Part of the reason this all came about was because the regional districts were not respecting the local bylaws in the processing of building permits by issuing building permits that did not meet the bylaws to do with building height and coverage and the like.”

85. Thetis Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, November 7, 2023

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    • [1:18:44] “So that'll happen in December. So then presumably we'd be able to advance that in December. Okay, I got it now. Just having a little mind lapse there.”
    • [0:58:07] “My only remaining question is, do you want us to read this recommendation out as eight individual motions or all at once?”
    • [1:15:55] “And, of course, there's an opportunity for staff to double up site visits as infrequent as they are on those occasions.”

86. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, November 1, 2023

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    • [0:02:59] “Yes. Yeah, that's golden. Okay. So good morning, everyone. We do have an agenda before us. And I'll ask if there's any additions or deletions. And just before I turn it over to you, I'll just ask the CAO, there was some discussion that we had yesterday about there being an in-camera for some staff matters, or is that important at this time?”
    • [1:39:50] “So indeed, it needs to be, I'm a big fan of being scripted these days. And so if it's scripted and analyzed and there's a mechanism to help unfold it in a meaningful way. So that means that the committee meetings are gearing up for those recommendations that come from the committee and for the chair to be empowered to represent it.”
    • [2:03:16] “And specifically, which one is coming up? Which one have you deferred to later? You know, all that sort of thing. And worry about, you know, and indeed whispering in my ear, we need to do this one before tomorrow afternoon, because people are going to start leaving kind of thing or whatever it is.”

87. Gambier Island Local Trust Committee special meeting, October 31, 2023

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    • [0:17:18] “no, you're correct. It's complicated with such a document, but I get it. So just to move it along, we could obviously then say we're trying to use the language that you created there in your memo that the LTC concur with the amendments proposed to the definition of maximum dock size and further direct status.”
    • [0:15:00] “then I'll just a question for staff then is that in the conclusion section there on page five is I think what I'm seeing here, but maybe there's a cover page on it, where it says two bulleted items change the definition XYZ, reduce the maximum dock size.”
    • [0:00:16] “It's a pleasure to be here today. I want to recognize that we're meeting broadly across Coast Salish territory. The picture in my background is actually looking across the Salish Sea from Valdez Island from a significant location to the Laiakshan people.”

88. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, October 18, 2023

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    • [3:34:07] “And so I'm just too, I'm worried about direction being provided and numbers being directed that there's too many people in the pot that might slow the process down, because I think the other thing about the time is slipping by quickly, and we need to have a plan in place for December, and we, my desire and executive committee is supporting that desire is that we really need to look closely at how we're actually conducting each of the meetings and then indeed setting up a plan for next year.”
    • [4:23:33] “But the trouble is, I don't believe that it's easy. Executive Committee only looked at its business cases last week. And so that material, although it's in the ECE package, certainly, it's not a decision that is ready to be advanced to Financial Planning Committee, just as one example.”
    • [0:59:11] “But we also need at the same time to deliver on the services that our communities expect, as well as be able to facilitate and support the projects and work that trustees want to undertake.”

89. Gambier Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, October 17, 2023

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    • [3:44:21] “I would also suggest that if staff said something, and I obviously don't know what they said, but if I paraphrase a little bit and staff had said something like that they cannot support that, whatever it is, there's some precedent or some underlying principle or whatever, or a lack of decision direction from the LTC to create that space”
    • [2:18:47] “So just I don't see that kind of language in here at this point and wonder, Planner McCarger, is there potential for that kind of language to be included in here to help address Trustee Bernardo's concerns and provide some confidence in the public's understanding of the bylaws, about the bylaws?”
    • [2:17:14] “Certainly, when a scenario exists where let's just say there's concrete footings or pads or something that they just simply need to be replaced or moved because there's a post that sits on top of them, as an example, then there needs to be some flexibility associated with that.”

90. Islands Trust Executive Committee regular meeting, October 11, 2023

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    • [1:13:31] “And so perhaps there should be some kind of a follow-up to determine whether this has not landed or needs to be redirected somewhere else in order to, again, inform where it is that we take this and that maybe we don't need to do anything with these at the moment except follow up on the original letter.”
    • [4:40:06] “was David Mott and myself. Tim, yeah, you were there. So you're going to capture those elements of the sessions and things that you attended. All of you do that. So do you want me to be the focal point of all of the emails? And then I'll consolidate them all into one thing and fire them up.”
    • [2:14:16] “But more broadly, I think, is there yet more additional capacity that is simply needed to provide some of these opportunities to provide this backfill and take on what has been a change in the capacity in some areas in information systems and meeting administration as two areas?”

91. Islands Trust Executive Committee special meeting, October 4, 2023

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    • [1:17:07] “So, what would be helpful, and I realize today's Wednesdays, Fridays, the day after tomorrow, is there potential options associated with a request to facilitate that budget and the amount that would be appropriate?”
    • [1:13:12] “And whether it's meeting management or IS or whatever, we've really depleted resources in order to continue to sustain the workload of the operation without hiring people.”
    • [1:16:55] “If we think that that fund and that budget and that function is required, I think it's up to us to ask for it and indeed certainly include that information.”

92. Islands Trust Conservancy Board regular meeting, October 4, 2023

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    • [0:03:32] “Well, actually, okay. Okay, well, great, then. So thank you for that. And so we'll just keep an eye on that, see if anybody shows up. Occasionally, there are the one resident that does live on the island, Staken Island, I think, sorry, my apologies for that. They do occasionally come to our meetings. So it's always a pleasure to see them, if they do.”
    • [0:11:42] “Okay. So then I'm going to continue on then. So the one new business item here is the Mount Aerosmith Biosphere Region Staff Report, which contains minutes from their previous meeting. So, Chris, you were in attendance at that meeting, and was that electronic or actually in person? And I'll turn it over to you.”
    • [0:19:01] “My suggestion would be let's make the appointment and then the appointment can raise some communication at the group and have a conversation with them about what they might consider within their capacity to do for either the LTC or balanced trust.”

93. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, September 27, 2023

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    • [7:19:50] “But, you know, we've ended up in a good place. It's not to say, and I'll just tip my hat here, that the decision that we made at noon today, which was rushed, and trustees may have had time to consider the way that they voted, the opportunity exists for us to reconsider that vote.”
    • [6:27:31] “And we've got a number of NAPTEP covenants here, and just for your information, one that was quite possibly placed erroneously, 11.1.6, a NAPTEP covenant, I've chosen to put that 11.2.4 and then bump the other ones down so that we can address the three NAPTEP covenants together.”
    • [1:44:02] “Right. Thank you. So I want to try and retain the speakers list. So I see it's moved around because people disconnected themselves. So let's just everybody turn yourself off and let's go. Judy, Toby and whoever was next in that sequence. Oh, the CIO next in that sequence.”

94. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, September 26, 2023

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    • [0:42:56] “thank you very much, Ciel, for those updates. Before I get too far along, I actually just want to recognize Rob Botterill, who is in our audience here. He's a past trustee from the 80s, about 82 to 86, more or less, of Bowen Island, prior to the incorporation, and is now a resident of Pender Island at the end of the, well, whatever, at the moment he's a resident of Pender Island.”
    • [2:28:25] “Honestly, I would be very happy to have more solid direction from the Governors Committee with respect to this ask, because that's the content of that ask is the weakest part of it, and some strengthening it would be incredibly valuable.”
    • [0:43:56] “Okay, not seeing anything online or in the room. So then we will receive those by general consent that the Ombudsperson adopt the recommendations as presented in items 5.1.1 and 5.1.2.”

95. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, September 6, 2023

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    • [5:33:46] “Do you want one of those things to be something even lower than that, that isn't necessarily a project that's in your mind, but would be a nice to have, or when we get around to it, we'll do that. And we just never seem to get around to doing those things. Because most of the model bylaws are good tools, could easily be implemented. But when we're allocating resources to our projects, they don't tend to be a high enough priority.”
    • [1:50:09] “Where we need to down zone and create more restrictions in order to protect the environment. And ever it was thus, I guess, is the phrase, and we're stuck in the middle. But certainly the OCP review is, I think, and the staff can correct me if I'm wrong, if you really want to down zone properties or change community,”
    • [3:42:16] “good conversation. Just noting that there's value, essential value in having some baseline data about our environment so that when people do come forward and people are not required to do studies unless somebody asks them to do it.”

96. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, August 31, 2023

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    • [0:16:14] “going to achieve this ambitious goal to it to get this for the next budget cycle which believe it or”
    • [0:11:23] “background and people are aware that we're talking about changing our approach to this and would be”
    • [0:15:56] “your support on this um because the other piece of this puzzle of course is yes we want to endorse”

97. Islands Trust Financial Planning Committee regular meeting, August 30, 2023

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    • [3:34:59] “And we've been following this process and getting a lot more input from it. But I do agree, I think it's not necessarily satisfying. And I think what would be more helpful is indeed earlier on somehow, I don't really know how that part works, but earlier on somehow actually getting support for values that the work that we undertake supports the values that are supported by the community,”
    • [3:05:46] “So another item of this nature, other than what naturally occurs, is that, if I'm not mistaken, the budget and assumptions and principles document, although drafted and created by financial planning committee, does need to be endorsed by council because you're asking them to apply this criteria to their process, if I'm not mistaken, or at least have to be advised so that they understand.”
    • [1:55:26] “And the regional planning team has been created to realize some of those very efficiencies by indeed consolidating OCP work across the federation in a more efficient, cost-effective way.”

98. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, August 25, 2023

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    • [0:47:24] “All right. So thank you, Director Cermak. And perhaps if you don't mind, Director Cermak, I might just ask for remarks from Legislative Services Manager with respect to the process that I identified with regards to the political body endorsing that, in their opinion, the bylaw is in compliance with the policy statement.”
    • [1:09:55] “I think the magnitude of the report, particularly the traffic analysis and the ferry analysis and all the beautiful graphs and all the rest of it, I think there is an understanding that there is a high impact associated with this because otherwise we wouldn't be doing these reports.”
    • [1:29:26] “Mayor Mrakas, Thank you any further consideration or discussion on the motion and i'll call the vote all those in favor and if i'm not mistaken that carries unanimously, and then, contrary, so thank you, Vice chairs, thank you staff for this important work that we do.”

99. Islands Trust Executive Committee regular meeting, August 2, 2023

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    • [1:58:39] “I'm going to suggest, Trustee Elliott, because you kind of volunteered there, that that conversation about the EC having some kind of a place that we're landing on, perhaps you might want to facilitate that and reach out to each of us and have a conversation with us and then assemble that into that elevator thing.”
    • [1:44:04] “And it might be a little onerous. But often, and I might fall for that as much as anything, trustees go on at length about things. And we need to be succinct. But, and I think Trustee Elliott's recommendation, here's the homework, write it down, come to council with what you think is important.”
    • [0:33:24] “and somebody can correct me if I'm wrong, is the whole threshold of the policy statement is whether or not the trustees in particular have turned their mind to those items and are satisfied that the application beats or does not, is in compliance or not in compliance.”

100. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, July 31, 2023

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     • [1:28:30] “Historically, the Executive Committee has sought the remarks of the chairs of Trust Council, and essentially that expands the envelope for those that are the most familiar and most intimate with the work of the CAO to embrace the chairs of the committees in order to solicit their perspectives and points of view with respect to overall operations.”
     • [1:28:58] “And so whether or not we go to what's referred to as a full 360 thing, or whether we just expand that horizon more to council. And typically, the pattern is a reporting out process to council, more so than a full engagement.”
     • [0:43:58] “And indeed, there is an introduction section there, which kind of is vision-focused, that indeed, whatever vision statement comes out of it needs to be emblazoned in that introductory portion of the policy statement,”

101. Islands Trust Regional Planning Committee special meeting, July 27, 2023

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     • [1:12:36] “But there's also a really important necessity to provide something similar and, in fact, condensed, I think, more easily accessible that applicants and agencies that are involving development of housing and community more broadly that may choose to come together to facilitate working with all the agencies required to create some housing.”
     • [1:39:54] “So actually creating some method of awareness building to bring all those future forces to play in our discussions now, because, you know, it takes however many years it takes to do an OCP.”
     • [1:12:19] “One arguably small part in the process, a lot of the information here that is really terrific and very helpful is really mostly helpful for trustees and LTCs to understand their process.”

102. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, July 12, 2023

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     • [2:56:51] “But we need to develop a story around that with an argument and a business case, and even to some extent, a recommendation of what that financial benefit might be, magnitude-wise, so that it can be clear what it is that the needs of the Allen Trust are ultimately on the delivery of the mandate.”
     • [2:46:52] “it says on the report, the task to engage with the Minister of Transportation on an updated memorandum of understanding is on the Executive Committee future project list.”
     • [1:35:38] “And indeed, in the past, we've had topical conversations around common interests, for the most part being vessel traffic, marine shoreline protection, and the like.”

103. Thetis Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, July 4, 2023

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     • [1:01:29] “And I think that on Trustee Hunter's point, his interest in protecting shoreline values and erosion and structures is important in this conversation because we need to understand what it is we can do and what we need to have in place in terms of bylaws to permit and manage those sorts of things.”
     • [1:05:19] “I'm satisfied to park that and I'm even satisfied to park that while we put all of our resources into the smaller projects, but I do want and I think the community would like to hear and be participants in that conversation about what shoreline protection actually means.”
     • [1:02:06] “And I think that what we want to do is paint it in that community communication piece is paint the picture about what the options are so that people understand what the regulations are, what the protection, what it is that we're protecting and why.”

104. Gambier Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, June 20, 2023

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     • [2:08:41] “we go into the break, well, I think we're probably just going to pause. That's okay, fine. Thank you very much, Warren. I just wanted to have a conversation perhaps at a later point in time with you. So let us then recess at 12.12 here, and we'll come back at 12.45. Let's make it a round, easy number, and we'll continue with the rest of business today. Is that all right with staff? Half an hour is sufficient for your break? Okay, awesome.”
     • [3:35:06] “you know, I don't think there's any necessity for us to advance this today. We could certainly ask for a presentation from David Moller, Director of Legislative Services, in order to be sure that you are well informed with respect to this.”
     • [2:43:24] “A wonderful part of the world to be, and the rich history and culture of the people that have lived here since time immemorial is remarkable, and I advise that you take every opportunity to learn about the place that we live in.”

105. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, June 14, 2023

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     • [0:06:43] “And of course, you know, particularly on the trust meeting, trust council meeting preparation, our role here today is to ensure that the information is complete, and that there's sufficient information for trustees to make decisions on RFDs, and there's sufficient clarity and information on briefings that also allows the council to understand what is going on and being reported out.”
     • [1:57:28] “And so I'm just going to jump to this and say that I move that the Executive Committee request staff to review Sections 5, Review Process of the Trust Council Policy, 2.1.2 Standards of Conduct, and recommend revisions to implement an informal review process and enhance review process fairness following best practices, period.”
     • [1:52:08] “far ahead of myself. Yeah, so nine point. Yeah, here we are. So we're in section nine, new business, 9.1. Okay, so this came late, and I apologize for that. Ostensibly, a review of the policy regarding standards of conduct. David, you and I and the CEO talked about this briefly. It's certainly something that we should”

106. Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, June 8, 2023

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     • [1:15:12] “I think there is some flexibility here, and I'll look to the trustees to get a nod that maybe some advice from staff as to whether or not deferring this for a period of time to give the applicant the opportunity to get that water permit is possible or not.”
     • [1:01:13] “If the LTC approved this TUP permit requiring that the water license be received, presumably that information would be conveyed to the applicant that indeed the operation of that business should not be being conducted until that water license is in hand.”
     • [2:33:05] “you know, it's more complicated than that, actually, I realize, and I'm sure Renee is bristling a little bit there, but probably you want would want to rescind that particular standing resolution and create a new one that encompasses what you intend.”

107. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, May 31, 2023

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     • [1:03:13] “And so certainly in terms of the development of business cases, that assumptions and principles can generally as a guideline be continued to use from the previous year, the value statements that are contained in the assumptions and principles remain the same for the most part.”
     • [1:03:30] “And so certainly as that principles and exceptions documents progresses and is approved by council, then ultimately it would reflect upon the decisions that feed into the budget approvals.”
     • [1:02:52] “And the reason I mention this now is that the principles and assumptions generally and historically year to year don't change significantly.”

108. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, May 29, 2023

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     • [1:23:29] “day-to-day business in ltc i i think and so it's not something that we would um necessarily just”
     • [2:13:45] “that this is a process that that you think um in your work um reflective of the governance study”
     • [2:13:53] “and the and the corporate planning process would be a valuable exercise for council to undertake”

109. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, May 24, 2023

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     • [0:31:12] “And likely, you're moving in that direction, but I would just caution about thinking that this might be done, because I think that, you know, we've struggled with how to implement, how to access that funding that came through, and it's sort of percolated through now realizing that many LTCs were not in a position to be ready for that.”
     • [0:30:49] “And so, although that item three I think is a bit grandiose to expect that we might bring key ministers and leaders together for such a event at council, but I think that there's still a need broadly for council to have a session that understands housing challenges and solutions in the trust area.”
     • [2:45:02] “I understand that. But we also don't necessarily want to put parameters around it so much as creating an opportunity to provide a state of health of the forest or state of the forests in the Gulf Islands as maybe we want a current perspective on that.”

110. Islands Trust Programs Committee regular meeting, May 15, 2023

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     • [1:48:11] “it's not in all situations and admittedly it might be a small percentage but every little bit counts”
     • [1:47:26] “doing work along the shoreline which often affects coastal douglas fir and and so we just want to be”
     • [1:16:33] “advice as you develop that work and then saltwater intrusion is a is a is a an issue of its own and”

111. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, May 10, 2023

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     • [0:19:01] “Sure. So thank you for that. That's very helpful. And more or less in my mind over the last couple of days, that sort of matches what I've been thinking. But what I'm thinking is I'd like to provide an opportunity for a reflection from the vice chairs. I don't want to rehash a lot of things necessarily.”
     • [0:06:05] “Mayor Mrakas, who started off, who was facilitating the session for us last week and there's a beautiful whiteboard that was beautifully printed out and helps refresh us where we left off. CEO Hodson-Piller, good morning and over to you.”
     • [0:43:44] “And so on that, and those are ostensibly climate change related events for which there's extensive planning and thought going into how to manage these and resource these events and mitigating and education and all that sort of stuff.”

112. Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee special meeting, April 28, 2023

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     • [2:09:15] “But I want to be brutally honest here. I think it's important that we be honest with ourselves here. I want to support something of a consensual decision to advance on this. I'm not necessarily feeling, and in that consensus, I also need to know that staff feel that they can, they're part of that, that they can support a process to advance this.”
     • [0:05:53] “Okay, so then that's all good then. So I think in terms of our agenda, we've got everything in order. So if there's no further items to add, then let us continue on with the agenda adopted by general consent as amended, I'll say.”
     • [0:22:08] “I have not had a chance to read your correspondence there, your memo, Trustee Elliott, and I think probably I'll just ask you to summarize that rather than taking time out to read it now.”

113. Ballenas-Winchelsea Local Trust Committee regular meeting, April 19, 2023

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     • [0:27:38] “an interest. And Trustee Maude, I didn't see your hand up. So I'll just note that we put a fair amount of energy in. And in fact, I think we were even had, we're attempting to seek community funding.”
     • [0:08:18] “I was able to share with him the protocol agreement conversation that's been going on between Islands Trust, Liskiti, and the Snunas Nation, and he was very pleased to hear that.”
     • [0:30:29] “so I would like to ask for any direction if it's clarifying through resolution, we can clarify if any of these active projects should move to then the future project list.”

114. Islands Trust Executive Committee regular meeting, April 12, 2023

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     • [1:27:31] “Laurie Foster could advise us on the logistics of that and the timing of when you might expect a response on behalf of the community interest there and whether or not that's how we might facilitate an opportunity for, you know, it's interesting for you to present as a delegation would be the sort of normal scenario if you weren't a member of executive committee, probably.”
     • [2:27:21] “Certainly, this became apparent some time ago, you know, more than just a few days, a month or two maybe, became apparent that there was an offering of which the CAO ably negotiated with senior staff at the ministry with respect to the asks that we have made previously as executive committee on behalf of council for additional funding,”
     • [0:55:56] “There was some interest expressed by trustees wanting to engage in that, but I felt that the letter that you crafted was comprehensive and thought that that should just go ahead to get it into their hands as soon as possible.”

115. Islands Trust Council special meeting, April 6, 2023

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     • [3:31:00] “And I think that's completely within the purview of the financial planning committee to say, we want to do this better. And we've thought about these things and we would like you to consider these things in that. And then this work that we're talking about here in this room will continue on until we get to some more concrete direction.”
     • [3:30:39] “And I honestly don't think it's unreasonable for FPC to suggest to anybody it wants to, but executive committee and council, that in entering into the next budget cycle, that some different considerations be applied to the business case development and the process.”
     • [3:30:28] “Because, you know, essentially, we've gone together, we've gone through a process of developing a budget, and indeed, there were lots of difficulties.”

116. Islands Trust Programs Committee regular meeting, April 3, 2023

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     • [1:36:53] “no, I just certainly want to acknowledge that Trustee Harris has spoken to the issues that were raised at Council and how the Islands Trust has been using and interpreting other parties' information in our own materials.”
     • [1:37:19] “But I'm just concerned that the actions and work of the Allen's Trust is tainting the work of a delegation that that they're what they do is completely independent of what we do or how we interpret it or how we use it.”
     • [1:37:35] “And so that responsibility shouldn't or if there's something wrong there, I wouldn't want our and I don't necessarily I don't want to flavor it in any way.”

117. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, March 28, 2023

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     • [0:02:05] “Just to include everybody as we go forward, I do have regrets from Joe Bernardo and Ken Hunter, and I do believe Janine Dodds is unable to join us today.”
     • [0:02:59] “Graham, this is not working out so well for me because, of course, as microphones change, people's priorities change.”
     • [0:17:46] “electronic hands. And I'm going to try and maintain a speaker's list, although it jumps around quite a”

118. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, March 22, 2023

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     • [2:15:22] “It's not necessarily that you're speaking from councils wanting to have something done. And I don't know that there's necessarily that opportunity because they're developing a strategy and that will come back again in the future about what they've heard from local governments.”
     • [2:16:09] “So, I just, in my sort of view, having attended lots of these things over the years, that there's less opportunity for one-on-one, be it group sessions, there'll be workshops going on and stuff like that, where there's opportunity to discuss what the issues are.”
     • [1:03:03] “We want to squeak more time out of the two days that we have. And that's just simply not possible without going overtime because there are so many conversations that need to be had. And again, the appetite for debate is pretty vigorous.”

119. Gambier Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, March 14, 2023

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     • [0:47:49] “And I think what we need to be sure that we're doing to not only answer Trustee Bernard's questions, but members of the public, particularly going into a community information session, is that we consolidate all this sort of communal knowledge that we have within the Islands Trust about those projects and those discussions that have happened historically to inform the underlying principles around the necessity for shoreline protection looking into the future.”
     • [3:15:06] “So, Trustee Stamford, do you think that this needs to be on the agenda as a regular item at all, or do you think that there's opportunities to report out on climate change mitigation and adaption in some fashion under reports, knowing that probably the LTC members would own it rather than anticipating the staff would be contributing anything particular there. Over to you.”
     • [1:58:00] “I was concerned that we were holding up the process and if we're talking about a year to getting any work done, then that would be problematic in my mind but it actually doesn't say that we've just simply deferred it so you're absolutely right.”

120. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, March 7, 2023

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     • [0:50:27] “And so that's Matt, because you work. And indeed, there's a couple of letters in your email today that came to the executive committee that the consultation period was incredibly brief and for all intents and purposes, non-existent.”
     • [3:44:59] “credit the ministry staff for this, they said, you know, the previous minister committed to meeting with the Honest Trust because they've got all these issues and they want to talk to you and they want a deep relationship with you.”
     • [3:45:10] “That minister, the new minister, came, followed through on that commitment, and we had a lovely conversation expressing honestly all the things you've talked about at this table to say, hey, we're the Honest Trust.”

121. Thetis Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, February 28, 2023

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     • [0:07:50] “different bodies, rate payers association, community associations, Islands Trust, I don't know, there's at least 10 different parties, it's hard to imagine on an island of less than 400 people that there's 10 different bodies that do things on the island, but there we go.”
     • [1:35:18] “in fact, it's interesting that we had a conversation about vessel anchorages and the designations that exist having morphed from the necessity for vessels to anchor and to find shelter in one place, right, in one type of vessel.”
     • [1:26:46] “And we did a couple of boat trips out into their areas of interest and around Thetis and discussed what the short what were important values on the shorelines and how it is we might support their interests.”

122. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, February 14, 2023

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     • [2:58:04] “What we've looked at and I congratulate as others have said, all of those LTCs and the committees that have looked at the discretionary spending and cut that. And so that's my two cents. We are setting a time bomb in the attic by advancing less than sustainable tax increases because it will be necessary to do something more dramatic in future years.”
     • [2:56:22] “I also suggested there that if it's necessary to reduce that to, say, 3.6%, then I do wonder what the options are that exist, and staff will have to advise us to draw that additional funding to maintain that level down to 3.6 by drawing from the surplus from funds that have not been spent on projects in this past year.”
     • [2:57:39] “And so, no matter what we do in terms of a budget increase, we are also going to hurt as our constituents are. And so, I think that we need to be recognizing that at the core of all of that is a 6% wage increase by the province to our employees, which we have no, you know, it's a non-discretionary increase.”

123. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, February 13, 2023

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     • [0:45:42] “One of the things that has been bothering me a little bit lately is trustee summary updates, of which we don't necessarily get written information, and I'm prepared to believe that if we don't get written reports from those bodies, then the bodies are not necessarily interested in providing it, and creating a space for casual reporting on the fly in a busy meeting is maybe less respectful of council's time than it should be.”
     • [1:52:32] “But it strikes me in the conversation that I've been listening to, and I always try to be objective and listen to the whole story kind of thing, that although we've talked about referrals and public engagement or content advisors and project management as two elements, there's also the communication, which actually is a third element that needs”
     • [1:52:56] “And so, indeed, EC is responsible for project management. I really appreciate that concept. And TPC is responsible for the content. But the communications piece also, to some extent, falls to EC, but can't not be reflected. That is also of serious concerns to vice chairs and TPC. Do you have any reflections on that?”

124. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, February 10, 2023

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     • [0:25:40] “And I think that there's a couple of things, and maybe I'm resisting the notion of top priorities right at this particular moment in time, but in having read all of the materials, and indeed, thank you, Judy, a lot of reading, and most of them I had to read more than once to get the first absorption, and then kind of that reactionary mode of what I've seen, and then actually going through each to look for the nuggets.”
     • [3:59:05] “Yeah, thank you. I'll just say that at this juncture, I'm prepared to follow in the direction that Trustee Bernardo is taking us there with respect to a corporate plan. We haven't used that word too much here. We've talked about strategic planning, but indeed, the corporate plan associated with strategic planning is incredibly important.”
     • [3:59:28] “And so if there was anything that was going to be called a process here, it would be a strategic corporate plan process that can be applied to all levels of the organization. And so I'd be really happy with that. And indeed, the policy statement perhaps is moved as subjective to that.”

125. Islands Trust Programs Committee regular meeting, February 6, 2023

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     • [4:22:59] “And so certainly some things, as you've indicated, have crept in. And so we need to remedy that. But if there's more misinformation or incorrect, I forget the phrase you use, inaccurate information out there, I think it would be really good to quantify what that is in order to be sure that we are addressing it in order to advance this properly.”
     • [4:20:44] “Thank you. I wasn't anticipating you get to me sooner. You know, I want to thank Trustee Harris for acknowledging that indeed, there's two sides to the coin. And that is important to note as we go forward. And certainly, I think that where there's a necessity there, that indeed, we should be going out to communities in some fashion.”
     • [4:23:22] “My only final hope, my thoughts and my hopes are here is that we can actually get to something of a consensus on approving some form of a policy statement amendment and indeed following on Trustee Peterson's message that we need to continue this work into the future in smaller chunks.”

126. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, February 1, 2023

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     • [4:49:36] “trusted too many people doing too many things and some of them are the same and um it's interesting”
     • [4:49:55] “you want to do. Let me be certain about that. But you might want to ask the governance committee to”
     • [3:21:44] “is really important however there's a notion going on here which i feel i just need to chime in on”

127. Islands Trust Governance Committee regular meeting, January 19, 2023

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     • [1:05:02] “And I'm interested to know from staff through the chair, what opportunities or how would we investigate opportunities that might exist for this central theme throughout the Islanders Trust to facilitate that, what I'm going to frame as the committee as a whole concept,”
     • [3:40:49] “And certainly from my perspective, I want to seek opportunities to report to the minister about all of the activities of the Islands Trust throughout the term, as I have always done in the last number of terms.”
     • [3:36:14] “Only that it was really a meeting greet and an opportunity, any opportunity to meet with the minister is an opportunity to raise the important issues and thoughts of council.”

128. Islands Trust Financial Planning Committee regular meeting, January 18, 2023

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     • [1:04:10] “And I'll use by example the motion that was just passed about asking staff to consider amendments to the policy regarding chair, regarding appointments to FPC, is a motion that will end up on the follow-up action list that there is no budget, there is no business case, other than it's a political decision, and it will go forward and staff will spend the time and report to us on the progress of that initiative.”
     • [4:18:32] “And so that capacity funding provides the opportunity for when that referral comes across their desk, and there's mountains of them from every other local government in the area as well, that there's some funding associated with that in order to allow them to hire somebody to process referrals on our behalf, on citizens' behalf, on applications that individuals are advancing.”
     • [3:30:25] “The Policy Statement Amendment, again, is a significant piece of work that has had significant amount of energy and resources dedicated to it, and to consider that we would not proceed with that or pause it in some way and not fund it adequately to advance it at whatever scale is necessary to advance, to fulfill not only our First Nations commitment,”

129. Islands Trust Executive Committee regular meeting, January 11, 2023

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     • [0:00:05] “Okay, good morning. So it looks to me like we're recording and live streaming. And so good morning to the Executive Committee and to staff and to members of the public that have joined us today for our January 11th Executive Committee meeting.”
     • [2:05:23] “So, Director Frater, do you have anything else to add with respect to anything I've said there? And I see that CEO Hotzenpiller's hand is up also. We have to figure out a red light or something for the CEO. So whoever wants to go first there.”
     • [2:29:10] “One of them sort of triggered a number of others, I think, which has been directed to the executive committee email address, which, however, may be better suited to be advanced to trust counsel.”

130. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, January 9, 2023

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     • [1:58:23] “chair of TPC now, and even the vice chair, but Claire, just to seek some clarity on the appointment”
     • [1:58:10] “um yeah good morning thank you very much uh chair i just wanted to be sure as we're zooming along”
     • [2:38:47] “to continue to support us doing our work and our recommendations, or you doing your work and your”

131. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, December 8, 2022

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     • [4:13:08] “In the letter that we would normally send to the delegate, what you're suggesting is that council may want to advise me to include the language that would refer the individual to administrative affairs complaint or the ombudsperson.”
     • [3:51:07] “All right. I'm going to just move to the next speaker, and then we'll pick you back up again afterwards, just to be efficient with our timing. Sue Ellen Fast, do you have something for delegations?”
     • [3:36:31] “And so we could defer this, and that might perhaps provide the opportunity for trustees to step up and advise us of their interest and maybe not have to go through that process at this time.”

132. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, December 7, 2022

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     • [3:04:08] “thank you. Maybe I'll just respond to that. I'm just taking what I interpret as the lead from the governance report that indicated that the suggestion was that ownership by council of the leadership of various committees of the Allen's Trust, and I'm paraphrasing, it's not exactly right, would be broadly supported if indeed we did it the way that I'm proposing.”
     • [0:53:00] “Thank you. And I'm just going to remark on that topic, which I feel necessary to, is a strategic element to this ask would be very welcome, because on every occasion when I meet every minister that we've had in the past 12 years, that request has come forward.”
     • [4:32:51] “you, Trustee Evans. And we're sort of free-flowing here with how we're approaching this, but the CAO is prepared to offer some advice on the 102 items list, I think it is.”

133. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, December 6, 2022

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     • [2:04:17] “so that's 18 in favor. I'm advised and five opposed and five opposed. So that motion carries. Now, Council, I'd love to move on to the second motion here, but I think I want to respect the need for a break.”
     • [2:15:10] “I've had a conversation here at the staff level about the availability of staff and getting through the agenda and the importance of the sequencing of our three-day schedule here.”
     • [1:02:55] “And so just warn you that although there's lots of promises out there, it sounds like the boots on the ground is going to take quite a while to roll out.”

134. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, December 6, 2022

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     • [0:26:03] “And indeed, I've reached out to Trustee Elliott yesterday, expressing my concerns about her workload for LTCs and committees and providing her the opportunity that if that's too much work, that I had sort of considered the allocations of those committee roles by executive committee on the committees and had considered that I would take on that responsibility of the Honest Trust Conservancy to help soften the workload there.”
     • [0:20:22] “Mayor Mrakas, Further than, and so the only other item would be honest trust conservancy liaison update and trustee Elliot as as the elected representative to last trust conservancy, I know you did have a meeting, and so do you have a brief report from that meeting.”
     • [0:14:28] “It would seem obvious that we should be prepared to make some remarks about that, but obviously we don't have any specific ask or any specific formulated business case, for want of a better term, or even indeed direction from the new local trust committee.”

135. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, November 23, 2022

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     • [0:55:22] “you know, I'm just going to say that this is a terrific learning opportunity, Russ, and I'm sure you'll agree with me, is this is a motion on the fly that is direction from council to do this, return it to the next meeting without any specifics around asking for staff advice on whether council should restate its position or something or otherwise.”
     • [0:19:28] “Now, from that three-day work schedule comes the Trust Council agenda with all of these items that are before us listed in the chronological order that we would normally anticipate to conduct these different present and review and make decisions with respect to any of these items here.”
     • [1:42:06] “So I'm going to suggest that we communicate with each other if I'm looking at changing some workload there somewhere and trying not to boost my workload too much because obviously I'm also significantly lower, but I also attend all the committee meetings and take on other activities.”

136. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, October 12, 2022

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     • [0:30:25] “where that is captured in this, and what mechanisms are in place to ensure that bylaw enforcement has the opportunity to access these surplus funds when they find that there's more monies required.”
     • [1:55:32] “itself would probably be not happy about having to do yet another um calculation and distribution of”
     • [0:18:00] “it never actually references a draft budget until we get to the December 6th meeting, but obviously,”

137. Islands Trust Executive Committee regular meeting, October 5, 2022

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     • [0:22:08] “Nope. Okay, so I'll just mention, I certainly had a couple of conversations with the regional planning manager for the Salt Spring office, Chris Hutton, and I've enjoyed those exchanges and look forward to working with him next week on an LTC meeting.”
     • [2:13:13] “It might be beneficial to consider using contractors where we can. Certainly, there's additional costs associated with that, but there's also potentially some savings associated with that with respect to office space and those other kinds of things.”
     • [2:10:39] “So I'll just make a few remarks. Certainly, it's politically problematic to advance budget requests of this kind. However, I think what we have to really recognize here is that staff have told us this is what we need to do this work.”

138. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, September 21, 2022

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     • [5:28:46] “Okay. I just want to maybe try and focus a little bit here for a second, because we've got two policies that are priority setting and guidelines, and the second one is work program follow-up action on some priority charts, which is to advance this body of work, which Heather, thank you, has been doing quite a lot of work in introducing these concepts over the last number of Trust Councils,”
     • [3:00:27] “So, you know, we're at noon, which was a scheduled break. We've got a few possibly lighter items that we might address now. And maybe we've got an hour scheduled for a break. I do need us back at one o'clock.”
     • [4:43:06] “Thank you. So then I'll take it that the bylaw compliance and enforcement statistics briefing be received for information by general consent and that 9.11 regional planning committee work program report.”

139. Islands Trust Conservancy Board regular meeting, September 21, 2022

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     • [0:25:11] “Um, you know, somebody else did say, well, what about the First Nations piece? And that is clearly above and beyond our ability to change that. But we can influence that. And indeed, there's a movement afoot, just having returned from UBCM, every UBCM I go to, there's more and more First Nations representation there that are elected members of councils.”
     • [0:27:26] “All trustees, doesn't matter who you are, you're not compensated adequately for the amount of time you're away from your families and the time you spend on the computer doing work and consulting with your communities.”
     • [0:22:21] “What did happen both on Trust Programs Committee and on Regional Planning Committee this term is that there were spinoff subcommittees that did work and brought that back to the group.”

140. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, September 20, 2022

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     • [1:07:14] “Thank you, Paul. That does come to the end of my list, and most of you have spoken once, and there's a few voices that I'd love to hear from, and I sort of think maybe I cut Doug Fenton off there and was more generous later, so I'd encourage him also, but anybody else that has something that they would like to share with us at this time would be welcome.”
     • [0:00:48] “Every day, I reflect on the rich culture and history of this place and recommend that everybody learn as much as you can about the rich history and culture that has been in this place since time immemorial through the Coast Salish people.”
     • [1:15:17] “I want I jump I want to jump in on insects because and in fact, it sort of segues into food and fruit and vegetables growing on the islands because this island would be incredibly happy to ship you as many mosquitoes as you want.”

141. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, August 31, 2022

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     • [0:48:46] “But council owns this document, and it's something that the council will determine through public input what it's prepared to include or exclude in our budget cycle and ultimately the work that we're funding and the work that we do.”
     • [0:48:25] “That what we heard from the public is something that's going to influence or not influence, but will influence, but is not necessarily going to be built into the assumptions and principles.”
     • [1:04:12] “But as becomes apparent, the interests of nations are not just in the identified archaeological sites, but it's on all of the land and all of the environment.”

142. Thetis Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, August 30, 2022

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     • [1:28:50] “And so I think there's an opportunity to provide a safety net that absolutely is not 100%, but also would relieve the burden of having to do more. And it seemed incredibly simple to do that. And I don't think there's been any fallback from that, particularly, that's accurate.”
     • [0:05:15] “And I'm sure the first item I'm going to mention, well, I'll just say thank you very much, Laura, for your very thoughtful opening remarks regarding this place as Coast Salish Territory.”
     • [0:07:56] “And that's worthy, worth mentioning here at the same time is that of course this conversation is happening out there about the speculation and vacation,”

143. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, August 26, 2022

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     • [0:03:09] “Good morning. I'm here on Thetis Island in L'Aix and in Penelope Territory. A pleasure to be here and work with you. Thank you.”
     • [0:12:15] “certainly a road that we need to travel and we need to travel that um with support from the province”
     • [2:31:06] “that decision-making process, because I think it's incredibly important that the criteria be clear”

144. Islands Trust Regional Planning Committee regular meeting, August 24, 2022

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     • [4:23:07] “And there's so much money these days that's out there, especially around climate change and water protection and all those sorts of things. We really need to find, you know, ideally matching partners or partners that are able to come to the table with money and or skills to facilitate the work to offset council's costs, because it's going to be a constant and tough battle forward to seek yet more and more money to do what we know as the important work.”
     • [2:28:06] “And we still have not actually advanced significantly a policy statement that embraces some of the policy that we need to have in place to give ourselves the permission to be able to do this work and advance this work in a confident and fund as a strategic plan item that it's supported within our policy and our mandate is really critically important to advancing this work.”
     • [2:27:53] “However, the other thing that I can't just help but reflect upon is part of the Island's Trust mandate is to work with First Nations. That's been identified through the policy statement process, that responsibility that has been handed off to us.”

145. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee public hearing, August 18, 2022

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     • [0:15:04] “I do need you to pass that off to the next person in order to keep us kind of flowing in a respectful way to allow everybody to be heard.”
     • [0:27:16] “Really, the opportunity for the clarification was prior to the public hearing, and I want to be respectful of the time.”
     • [1:16:28] “sir did you state your name for the record and you have two minutes absolutely i think you've seen the”

146. South Pender Island Local Trust Committee public hearing, August 12, 2022

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     • [1:17:54] “And then, of course, one of you or myself could chime in with an amendment to say that I want to amend lots of an area of 0.8 hectares, for instance, to make it XYZ size, rather than necessarily having to have five different motions.”
     • [2:20:14] “So, I'm going to go now to By-law 123, which is on page 29 of the agenda, and I'm going to go to Planner Stockdale to ask us to summarize the application or the OCP for us, and then we'll go through this as we need to.”
     • [0:42:28] “You might suggest that a schedule would provide a level of certainty because, you know, I sort of feel that this conversation isn't going to be over after you guys got the bylaw.”

147. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, August 9, 2022

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     • [5:49:29] “to go down a different journey here. How do we provide some, I don't know what the right word is. You said that you're going to add a hydrologist to the team. Great. So where and when and how is that going to happen?”
     • [1:08:03] “We need to talk to our colleagues on council and at FPC and the incoming council trustees need to have that conversation and concur with whatever the conclusions are, because we have to ask council for that $300,000.”
     • [4:03:05] “I'm going to now go. Well, I would like to go to 16.1. So spring development learners permit 2021.24. Just want to ask the trustees you want to have a five minute break here, refresh your water.”

148. Islands Trust Executive Committee community information meeting, August 3, 2022

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     • [0:57:21] “And so just want to say that because we've had some correspondence from members of the community, and I will direct your attention to those pieces of correspondence in Section 10 of our agenda with respect to one or more of the one of the bylaws anyway, that's in our agenda package today.”
     • [3:02:30] “I'm glad I let you speak first because I agree with the rationale for having brought this to us because I would like to be able to get the incoming council off to a good start without asking them to answer questions for which they will not have the background.”
     • [2:13:39] “And as much, you know, I know the other final one was the notion of the rookie trustee, because it's also apparent, based upon the governance review, that many present trustees that may be reelected in the next cycle didn't think they got that orientation.”

149. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, July 12, 2022

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     • [1:53:36] “Exactly. So my advice would be let's avoid conflict if we have to, and thank you for saying you're going to step up, but I'm sure it doesn't take much to imagine that that's not necessarily going to go well, so let's avoid that.”
     • [1:53:54] “And so what I would like is a motion from the LCC for me to phone Michael Krantz and tell him that he should hold off on any further activity pending a letter from our legal counsel.”
     • [1:03:06] “where on the executive committee, we get the opportunity to look after administrative business before we launch into preparing for the next trust counsel,”

150. Islands Trust Executive Committee community information meeting, July 7, 2022

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     • [2:03:53] “When more people become more aware of the ability for us to do this work, granted a narrow scope, but the ability to do that, there will be more requests and we have to determine how we're going to do the.”
     • [2:03:43] “Subsequently, we haven't really funded or created a budget or understood the scope of what that budget might be, because this is, I think I said this once before, this is just the beginning.”
     • [0:05:00] “I find sometimes there's quite an appetite for conversation, and that might be surrounding the bylaws or anything else, but let's try and get ahead of it.”

151. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, July 7, 2022

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     • [0:23:51] “So maybe a question for Jordy Gordon, Planner Gordon, is where is it that we would accommodate that, given that if the LTC wanted to pursue that, and I know certainly there's input in supporting sustainable farming.”
     • [0:29:47] “It sounds like there's more work necessary to consider how we might include some of these elements of Badaw 526 on other farmland.”
     • [0:26:04] “I think that if I'm not mistaken, anyway, that that we would want to consider that before advancing something.”

152. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, June 29, 2022

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     • [1:06:23] “And indeed, we have to have projects. Well, I guess it begs the question about what the projects are and do we really need any projects. And so, to me, narrowing the focus here in terms of this amendment is where it goes to early engagement with First Nations and others to provide input to possible projects in the local trust area would be as simple as it needs to be.”
     • [1:15:10] “So thanks, Dan. Thank you, Executive Committee. I want to thank you for your work as little as it might be on this LTC, because this is a really spectacular place. And I'm sorry that we didn't get a boat trip together to go and appreciate that.”
     • [0:25:01] “So I would suggest we be careful. And certainly, I don't have any trouble with the advancing, making recommendations to the incoming LTC. But I would suggest we should leave this for further thought to a future LTC. That's my two cents.”

153. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, June 21, 2022

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     • [3:14:40] “I've just been reflecting here, you know, this is a night, it's great that so much is being attempted to be done here in this motion, but this does strike me, following on Trustee Patrick's words there, this is an ideal opportunity to split this motion.”
     • [0:01:17] “Up on your screen is a new visual element, they call it, about the history of the First Nations in our country, representing all First Nations people, the Inuit, the Métis, and the earth and the sun and fire of the summer solstice, which is also today.”
     • [0:00:55] “Indigenous Day, Indigenous Peoples Day, and this is a terrific recognition across the nation for all of the First Nations people of the country, and it's important for us to recognize the rich culture and history that we have in Canada.”

154. South Pender Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, June 17, 2022

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     • [0:05:57] “And then I'm thinking 45 minutes for each of the bylaws for the public to ask questions of clarity, understand the form and character of the, not the form and character, but the intent of the bylaws, and then certainly express concerns that they may have about the bylaws, ideally in the form of questions that we might be able to answer those or address those concerns.”
     • [0:39:15] “And certainly there is plenty of legal advice and discussion out there, but I'm going to defer that to the staff, although really most of that work is happening in the 2050 campaign, not specifically to do with individual local trust committees, and is not presently enacted in any way, shape, or form, but is an ongoing conversation.”
     • [1:04:48] “You know, I do want to try and keep our answers more succinct than they are, because we're really cutting into this opportunity to ask questions. So Kim, over to you. And then I want to go to the next speaker.”

155. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, June 14, 2022

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     • [0:40:03] “But certainly as we're preparing for council, which is coming up June 21, 22, 23, we've met with financial planning committee, regional planning committee, previously known as local planning committee and trust and trust program committee to advance the work associated with the policy statement with the regional planning strategy.”
     • [0:44:48] “It's going to be difficult to ban or restrict these vessels from anchoring, but certainly we want to see a much better managed, safe method of conducting that activity, which we feel is inappropriate in the Salish Sea, and recognize the economic impact to the country, of course, and the benefits to the country.”
     • [0:44:24] “And there is a meeting planned in July to try and gather all the people at the table to be able to advance this issue as a front to the federal government and the provincial government to achieve some relief.”

156. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, June 8, 2022

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     • [2:51:50] “So, just thinking out loud, maybe what I'll do actually is, if Trustee McConkie is still here, is how about we address 7.5.6 right now? He may be on his lunch break and wanting to go back to work, and I want to respect that. And let's do 7.5.6, and then we'll just double back to administrative services, and then we'll all have a break for lunch. Does that sound reasonable?”
     • [4:26:41] “And I would like to say, I'll just blurt it out right now, I would like to see the 8.2.11 somehow in advance of the RFD decisions for trustees, because elements of what you're talking about touch on both the Provincial Review of the Islanders Trust and the Governance Committee, although obviously the request for the Islanders Trust review is different.”
     • [4:43:33] “And so we'll just forward this as amended based upon the suggestions from Trustee Rogers, which was to have the CEO's report included in the executive committee, CEO's reporting out section there in the afternoon on day one, and then have that followed by the establishing a standing governance committee of Trust Council.”

157. South Pender Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, June 2, 2022

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     • [2:10:21] “So, I've got five fresh names here on my second speakers list and if we've exhausted the questions I'll certainly ask for more than perhaps we'll go to 123, maybe there'll be less interest in a conversation around the official clean plan”
     • [0:02:22] “And community information meeting is the opportunity for staff to present a bylaw of some kind and then provide you as much information as we think is necessary to bridge the gap of understanding about what's on the table.”
     • [0:39:15] “What I'd like to do is give opportunity for the variety of voices in the room, and somebody else may want to ask a question that you want to ask as a second question kind of thing.”

158. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, June 1, 2022

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     • [1:23:31] “And, and, and what did you do with the last survey of information that you did? And, you know, to some extent, in fact, some of the broader principles and some of the broader discussion around the budget are actually include the comments and reflections”
     • [0:42:55] “I have members of the public across the Islands Trust region that are very interested in this also to understand what their net contribution or what their net benefit is from working within the federation.”
     • [0:42:45] “Not only for myself and other trustees that I've heard speak to it, but I want to also note, because there was an emphasis on an interest of trustees,”

159. Islands Trust Programs Committee regular meeting, May 13, 2022

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     • [0:42:45] “But again, it's a separate conversation. And the Kim Benson conversation, I also spoke with Kim. And indeed, in some respects, it's some of the same people all that long time ago that were quite honestly antitrust or having those antitrust sentiments, which certainly rose to fairly significant heights.”
     • [1:31:28] “Indeed, that inaugural period of the new council, potential election, well, in fact, election of trustees, potential interest in committee work, potential chair and vice chair nominations in that election process.”
     • [1:33:06] “But just want to plant that seed that that letter might be a little bit more broad and well-received by all in this whole change of council cycle that we're about to enter.”

160. South Pender Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, May 6, 2022

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     • [0:52:38] “typo there. So then I'll ask the trustees if there's any amendments to the minutes. No. Thank you very much then. So then we will adopt the minutes as presented. And I thank everybody involved in providing those minutes to us by general consent. Adopted by general consent.”
     • [0:15:04] “And so, you know, this industrial activity has been going on for so long, so we had an opportunity to reacquaint them with the Penders, Bumper Sound, and of course the interests throughout the Salish Sea now.”
     • [0:15:24] “Well, in the region surrounding Thetis Island, where I live, we have about ten right now, including container ships, which we were always promised would never be anchored here.”

161. Islands Trust Executive Committee regular meeting, May 4, 2022

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     • [0:43:04] “And as you've heard just now, every single one of those people is wearing multiple hats. And some of those hats have gotten a lot bigger. They were five-gallon hats when they got them, and they're 10-gallon hats now. And just want to acknowledge that everybody is running thin, trying to meet the needs of the organization with the limited resources and additional capacity that we've chosen to take on.”
     • [1:12:44] “Yeah. So thank you, CEO, for the comprehensive report here. And I certainly have some questions for you. But let me go to the vice chairs and start for any comments or remarks from some of the embedded questions about the duration of the meeting and the governance report and other items. So I'm going to mix it up here. I'm going to start with Sue Ellen Fast, Trustee Rogers, and then Trustee Patrick.”
     • [2:19:50] “The interesting thing is the pre-election period begins in July now, and so obviously there may be people that will want to be starting to campaign at that point, and it would be helpful to have this document out in some fashion that's accessible to those potential individuals that are interested in running.”

162. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee special meeting, April 19, 2022

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     • [2:46:53] “With that, I'm going to move to correspondence. There has been quite a lot of correspondence associated with applications. As you know, correspondence with applications gets funneled off into files and is available on the website or in the reporting that comes to us with respect to those applications when they come forward.”
     • [5:20:43] “Yeah. And, you know, just while you're thinking about the wording there, Laura, I often think that this annual report should actually be more descriptive of the challenges and the successes and the failures, because this is what I consider to be the annual report to the shareholder.”
     • [1:50:04] “But it's a continuum, and we need to embrace those together so that the settler history can be respected for everything that is here today, and the First Nations history can be respected for everything that was here before and through this more recent time.”

163. Islands Trust Executive Committee regular meeting, April 13, 2022

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     • [2:21:52] “Okay. So thank you then for that. So I'm just going to blurt out, you know, I think we need an intake process for this kind of thing and then determine what it is we do with the entire amount of money for the year, especially when we get groups that are asking for all of the money. So move that up to the vice chairs, what we want to do. Dan Rogers, over to you.”
     • [2:11:51] “not received, probably in public formerly, there was some questions at the time that when it was arrived as to whether or not that was a terms of reference for a committee moving forward, as opposed to an interim, this term, committee, establishing the initial framework, which would obviously be being passed off to a new committee in a new term.”
     • [2:01:59] “Yeah, that's great. And like I said, I'm not opposed to it. I just feel necessary to ask that question because we're being absolutely we've approved any of those that came to us in the past. So I'll go to the vote then. That's all right. All those in favor? None opposed. That carries unanimously. That's great. Thank you very much.”

164. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, April 11, 2022

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     • [2:25:25] “And so I would like to ask this person here, Forbes, Christina Forbes, at the branch of agriculture, although she's not using a proper address, but that's it, to help us with those two terms, heritage, Christine Forbes at gov.bc.ca, thank you.”
     • [3:04:01] “you for bringing that up. I apologize for skipping over that. So yeah, before we go on to the definitions, then. So there is a correspondence there regarding the BC Electoral Boundaries Commission, Electoral Boundaries Commission.”
     • [2:25:47] “So I'd be interested to know what the interpretation is of wild sheep and domestic and heritage, because I don't think we should use heritage and Tom did imply in today's thing that he wanted to retain that heritage sheep thing.”

165. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, March 23, 2022

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     • [0:54:18] “And whether or not if there's opportunity at the end of this process to consider whether or not there's some additional outreach that should maybe be considered in areas that if there's anybody else that hasn't had advanced notice of these events, that would obviously affect the turnout.”
     • [2:50:39] “But obviously, we would want to have sufficient time for any outcome from this meeting to be included as some kind of outcome reporting back follow up action list item at the June Council, which applies additional pressure to that meeting.”
     • [0:04:12] “So this brings us to our follow-up action list and our practice is to go from the CAO through to the directors to catch any updates on the follow-up action list and I'll start off with CAO Russ Hotson-Pillard. Good morning, sir.”

166. Islands Trust Conservancy Board community information meeting, March 16, 2022

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     • [0:08:35] “All of the comments there. I do, however, think that Belenus Island itself, which we did actually down zone years ago, is vulnerable. If somebody with enough money wants to come in and do something on that island, we would have to preserve and protect.”
     • [0:22:21] “We were meeting there before COVID in the health center at this Nonanos First Nations, and it would be nice to go back there to even just be in that community and have that opportunity to engage with this Nonanos Nation there.”
     • [0:22:10] “I'm presuming that this would be electronic, but it's hard for me to guess or even know what happens next because, of course, we're moving back to in-person meetings.”

167. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee special meeting, March 15, 2022

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     • [0:03:30] “And I would like to report out that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee has appointed Jennifer Maximets, Martin Ogilvy, Francis Carlin, Robert Steinbeck, and Kathy Ramsey to fill the vacant seats on the Ganges Village Planning Task Force.”
     • [0:03:57] “We have chosen to not do the full compliment in order to avoid complications associated with quorum and an interest in the committee for being a little smaller to make the discussions a little more manageable and just want to respect that.”
     • [0:03:19] “Okay. Well, we have just returned from an in-camera meeting, and we've opened the meeting to the public.”

168. Islands Trust Council community information meeting, March 8, 2022

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     • [0:45:33] “sorry about that. Thank you, Michael. Any questions for the delegate? Not seeing any. Thank you for, again, coming to council. Our next speaker is Friends of the Gulf Islands, and I believe that's Jennifer Markison, regarding the trust policy directives. And we'll get you promoted and you'll, oh, there you are in person. Excellent. Thank you.”
     • [1:34:26] “Good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Trust Council for March the 8th. My name is Peter Luckum, Chair of Islands Trust Council. Today is International Women's Day. I just want to recognize that. I want to thank all the women that are on Trust Council for the work that you do and what you share as women to Trust Council.”
     • [3:38:35] “And I'm going to turn your attention to the briefing attached to this, that there are several, let's say, suggestions or recommendations about any actions we take and what the implications are, budget, legal opinion, et cetera.”

169. Thetis Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, February 22, 2022

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     • [0:51:06] “And so I realize that it's challenging when we're trying to essentially break new ground, but I think that because you're seeing that on other islands as well, it's indicative that we are, the Islanders Trust is in this metamorphosis stage where we're trying to reinvent ourselves in terms of public communication and outreach and attempting to engage our community in the work that we do.”
     • [1:24:21] “We saw a change in the contractors who were engaged to participate with us to learn about what Green Shores was and the major project which was the development of a boulder structure on the shoreline where there had historically been riprap to defend against the marine environment of a new home that was being constructed there.”
     • [0:50:46] “And I'm grateful that we've come around to understanding the relationship of development on the islands with respect to the health and well-being of the marine environment and how that symbiotic relationship of the health and well-being of the marine environment contributes to the health and well-being of the islands.”

170. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, February 16, 2022

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     • [2:26:34] “Normally, those items would be raised from the floor and debated accordingly, but Dan is right. There needs to be a systematic approach of fair and equitable consideration of all proposals.”
     • [2:53:45] “And I'd like to draw people into supporting the work of the Islands Trust rather than continuing to tell us what we're not doing.”
     • [2:19:16] “but i'm just wondering at what juncture is it that we might want to include forwarding the item at um”

171. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee special meeting, February 15, 2022

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     • [3:10:47] “It's really critically important that this be a safe place, respectful place for all of the participants, trustees, staff, and of course, all of your friends and neighbors that are out there that are joining us from the Salisbury community.”
     • [3:21:17] “you, Ronan. There's an awful lot of information that you presented there. And if you have that in writing, much appreciated if you could submit that to the LTC to help us. And thank you for joining us.”
     • [3:21:53] “And so I've got one, two, three, four, five speakers, starting with Franz, I believe, and then David Rumsey, and Gunn, Ryder, Bergerud, sorry about that, and Ian Peace, and André L. Martel.”

172. Islands Trust Programs Committee community information meeting, February 11, 2022

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     • [1:31:46] “But indeed, I think it's reasonable to clarify that with the ministry, if necessary, at this time, because I think it's in the public interest to understand when they're providing feedback and making comments about it being overly directive or otherwise, and I just picked that at random, if that's the desire or the necessity of the document, then we have to take that into consideration.”
     • [1:27:33] “So the question that I have actually around the policy statement, and I'm struggling with trying to figure out how the public can engage with us in a meaningful way and understand and have the information that they need to be able to provide constructive feedback to us to assist us in developing this document appropriately.”
     • [2:21:38] “Thank you. Director Frater raised the item 2.5 and just one would like, my question kind of circles a little bit around that, where, and that's on page 25, where Trust Programs Committee commits to undertaking Secretariat Services directly, the committee will seek staff advice regarding availability of staff.”

173. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, February 10, 2022

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     • [0:06:04] “has joined us here as well. Thank you, Sarah. And Rob Pringle is also there manning the technology”
     • [0:02:16] “looked like you were busy whittling or something but it's a mess okay so marguerite uh marguerite”
     • [0:01:11] “viewing us today. Elected member from Salt Spring, Trustee Patrick. Also elected on Salt Spring,”

174. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, February 9, 2022

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     • [0:43:57] “just want to note, just because I think it's important and that I think that's an oversight that members of the public have the ability to enter into the chat.”
     • [0:44:06] “That's not the intention. But certainly the other thing is that indeed that conversation happening is not public.”
     • [1:47:15] “with no clarification in order for the lieutenant governor to ideally spend the time and ask whether”

175. Islands Trust Conservancy Board regular meeting, January 27, 2022

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     • [0:13:49] “And there's nine items that are listed there, ostensibly advocating for forest and terrestrial ecosystems, preserving and protecting marine ecosystems, freshwater resources, certainly undertaking mitigation and adaption to climate change impacts within the Gulf Islands, improving community engagement in the Islands Trust.”
     • [1:00:25] “Certainly over the years, there have been freezes on staff and on senior staff, but over time, wages go up by an amount around the CPI level, sometimes a little bit more, sometimes a little less perhaps, but we don't have any control over that, and it's one of those non-discretionary increases, we like to call them.”
     • [1:03:15] “And we certainly got some interest in whether or not we couldn't provide the information to the community earlier and perhaps have the surveys conducted earlier in order to provide more time for the community to interact and also to provide more time for trustees to digest what it is that they hear.”

176. Ballenas-Winchelsea Local Trust Committee special meeting, January 24, 2022

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     • [0:31:58] “And again, when there's a significantly controversial issue, it could be anything from where we've seen kayaking operations that want to come into the islands, issues that want to come into the islands, development on Winchelsea, Bolinas-Winchelsea islands that might come into play.”
     • [0:53:00] “I think I heard that from Trustee Patrick. And so it's not just the Bolinas-Winchelsey that's advancing it, but that it's being advanced by potentially other northern LTCs that may or may not feel the requirement for this.”
     • [0:32:19] “And there may be other citizens of British Columbia feel it's necessary, or even other citizens within the Islands Trust area that feel that it's necessary to come.”

177. Thetis Island Local Trust Committee special meeting, January 24, 2022

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     • [0:22:11] “Because, you know, if we get stuck in a place where we're having to do something, then it's going to impact the overall organization. Consider allocating resources to support or to consider allocating resources from the 2022-2023 budget to support electronic meetings. And that would go to FPC.”
     • [0:23:38] “So, through the chair, I might just ask staff, I think that this potentially would meet the considerations or the concerns that have been expressed by staff with respect to holding electronic meetings, and at least it's going to stimulate this conversation.”
     • [0:24:04] “I move that the Theta Sound and Local Trust Committee request that Financial Planning Committee consider allocating resources from the 2023 budget to support electronic meetings.”

178. Islands Trust Council special meeting, January 20, 2022

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     • [1:22:14] “So that deals with the bylaw. Now there's an additional recommendation here, which we haven't discussed. And probably the easiest way to do that would be to make a motion, we can have the discussion. But Heather, do you want to introduce this additional recommendation in any way, shape or form?”
     • [1:31:14] “And the best connectivity often is at the offices and even to some extent, as maybe an example today is where there's a disruption of an internet connection at one office, there's the opportunity to connect on our backbone between the two offices to ensure stability of that connectivity.”
     • [0:54:32] “so I think you're right, but maybe for clarity, what we might want to say is that where it says the appointed by the chair of trust counsel is present, maybe say is physically present, then that would provide that opportunity for that appointment of a local trustee to chair the meeting.”

179. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, January 18, 2022

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     • [0:04:11] “That's a brilliant idea. So I'm just making some notes to that. Electronics on item 18. And you would like to switch 8.1 and 8.2. So unless there are any concerns from the trustees, then we shall do exactly that. I've marked that. And so thank you for bringing that. Anything else from anybody? No.”
     • [2:45:38] “And then if you have other items, you're certainly welcome to join us in the town hall, which may be your interest in the Main Street thing would have been better suited in the town hall.”
     • [5:25:37] “I want to thank the members of the public that were so keen to engage, but it's one of those things that is difficult with the meeting because the trustees on the meeting and here we are.”

180. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, January 13, 2022

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     • [0:40:00] “Well, nice to see Mark jumping in there. I was just going to suggest for Case that he might want to simply unplug his headphones and replug them and test it and then plug them back in, because I have had difficulty with headphones on my laptop. Sometimes it doesn't work.”
     • [3:45:06] “So whether or not it should be in that baseline data section or not, it is covered in other areas, but I think there's different ways of approaching this, and certainly shoreline protection areas is one of those components that many of the islands are vulnerable.”
     • [3:44:50] “It does got climate protection and other things in there. But certainly these days, what we understand, at least what I understand, is the impacts along the shoreline are significant and are contained within our abilities to zone and protect areas.”

181. Islands Trust Council community information meeting, January 10, 2022

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     • [0:12:13] “I do. I'd just like to remind Trustee Brent that when we did receive correspondence at this committee, there was a conversation about what would we do with that and how should we manage it, because there was not a public input component to this committee.”
     • [0:12:30] “So it's not unusual, and I think it's appropriate that members relay their concerns about anything that we happen to be doing.”
     • [0:55:50] “I guess I'm more inclined of the ministry related to the Islanders Trust or any other provincial agent.”

182. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, November 18, 2021

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     • [0:41:30] “And then the opportunity exists for us to include additional amendments, as you've indicated, to make this more effective going forward. And, you know, some of those may be easy and some of them may not be, but it certainly sounds like a good positive direction overall in the conversation and the recommendations that you brought forward to us.”
     • [0:14:34] “you very much, Planner Mays. So, ostensibly, this staff report is here for the LTC in support of the recommendations that are contained in that report, but I presume that there's interest from the AAPC and the Ag Alliance members that are here with us today,”
     • [0:06:05] “And I'll just maybe turn to staff to see if there's somebody that wants to make any remarks or introduce this topic, and then maybe just see if there's any questions from folks on the line here today with respect to that report.”

183. Islands Trust Financial Planning Committee community information meeting, November 10, 2021

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     • [1:52:41] “However, it just begs the question as to whether or not there's some further refinement of that formula that might improve the situation and whether or not there's demonstrable work that is conducted within the Bowen municipality that there could be a form of credit or reduction in that levy accordingly.”
     • [1:51:32] “And so back to the shell games for a minute. The equation of the Bowen calculation is incredibly complex. And I know that they pay for percentages of some of those services outside of local planning services. And all of those accumulate to whatever the final magic number is.”
     • [4:05:02] “And quite honestly, although we might have expertise in-house that can do the work, quite often I would suggest that we are able to leverage expertise outside of the organization that can give us a very professional, objective point of view that would be valuable.”

184. Islands Trust Regional Planning Committee community information meeting, November 3, 2021

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     • [2:31:26] “Well, TPC has made some alterations in its program of work in respect of realizing that the budget increase that's on the table might be higher than some would like.”
     • [1:20:01] “The agenda is not nailed down yet, and we would normally take materials from the committees and include them as and where possible.”
     • [1:03:03] “flowing, then they're not contributing all of the minerals and other things that are contributed to”

185. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, November 1, 2021

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     • [0:33:25] “public engagement. And my question stems from that because there are others in the public that have asked me how this process unfolded. And the focus, the pointed question is, is how did the consultants decide who to interview and how were those interviews conducted, i.e. by phone or Zoom or in person?”
     • [0:58:52] “And I have certainly not heard any remarks of that nature. And I think it does a disservice to this committee and this process, because I certainly, as I stated earlier, hope that there will be some recommendations that we can embrace to improve our work in preserving and protecting the Gulf Islands.”
     • [0:20:32] “Understood. Yeah. And so it's a reporting out of findings more so than a discussion, because clearly we want to hear your findings of what you've discovered in the process, as opposed to what it is that committee members may think with respect to that.”

186. Islands Trust Programs Committee community information meeting, October 29, 2021

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     • [0:10:12] “form that the provincial government is undertaking um and i just uh because of course there's interest”
     • [0:45:07] “nations around the globe about reducing our carbon emissions. So in answer to our community's demand”
     • [0:44:34] “tree cutting, right, because we want to sequester carbon, or we want to prevent burning of materials”

187. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee special meeting, October 22, 2021

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     • [1:52:52] “And that conversation is ongoing and would be interesting to hear from the doctors and with respect to that, those conversations that are happening at the provincial level, not including the Allen's Trust, other than in a consultative role as other local governments and where the synergies are here that we might meet our objectives and meet the province's objectives and meet our community's objectives.”
     • [0:35:49] “But I know that on my own property, I have what foresters refer to as dwarf trees, that because of the circumstances of the topology, sandstone rock, very thin layers of nutrients, and the like, of which the Gary Oak ecosystem is a major part of, how are we capturing, is that a very small percentage of the coast of Douglas fir that we need to be concerned about?”
     • [0:04:38] “Okay, absolutely. So that's great. And so then I'm going to adopt the agenda as presented. And let us begin with introductions. I'm just going to go around the room according to my screen layout, which you all know is different from where you are and how you log in.”

188. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, October 20, 2021

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     • [2:06:53] “But I think there's an opportunity to save close to 1%, slightly less than 1% there, and would think that that is a positive move in these times of fiscal restraint. Thank you.”
     • [0:56:28] “that's uh that's uh twenty thousand dollars we'll round it down that obviously makes a difference to”
     • [0:54:59] “listen to the conversation the discussion and you know i i often when i'm sitting on f on committees”

189. Islands Trust Council special meeting, October 13, 2021

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     • [0:00:05] “All right. Good morning, everyone, executive committee and staff and members of the public that have joined us either live or through the recording.”
     • [0:00:17] “My name is Peter Lockham. I'm the chair of Alistair's Council. I'm elected on Thetis Island, which is in the Lyexin and Penelakut territory.”
     • [0:00:58] “and every day wake up to recognizing and realizing the rich history that has been in this place since”

190. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, October 4, 2021

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     • [0:11:50] “maybe I'll interrupt and some points were brought to my attention and I can discuss those with you independently, trustee Ray.”
     • [0:02:16] “And then the question that I would ask, yeah, would be with regard to how's it going and are there any concerns?”
     • [0:09:41] “meet next time we'll have they'll have a better sense of how it's going so um i would look forward”

191. Islands Trust Council community information meeting, September 29, 2021

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     • [0:55:18] “So just want to suggest that I think, whether it's density bonusing or floor area ratios or duplex or whatever, you know, it's about housing, of which not, I think, in the future, not many, including myself, may be in a situation to actually be able to buy or rent places.”
     • [0:57:05] “And so I think there is value and I'm not sure where it is in terms of the timeframe there is value and engaging more people, and even trustees in the developing this conversation around affordability and density bonusing in this particular”
     • [3:05:10] “Council, we are often not able to be nimble. And so really glad to see that you've been able to do that in this particular situation. I'm sure that that will benefit the Galliano community as well. So that's fantastic.”

192. Thetis Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, September 28, 2021

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     • [1:31:58] “And, you know, I think that's part of the reason why I was supportive of the recent policy statement funding to not necessarily engage in a fully involved discussion, but to lean towards opportunities for involvement by profession item is, should we mention in some, because, of course, the other thing is, is that our community and many communities are looking at, do you guys have any, do you have any”
     • [1:31:29] “But I did mention the IAP2 consultation. So in terms of in scope and out of scope, you want to identify the level of communication. And, you know, certainly the obvious one is we would be informed, but at the same time, I sort of think that there does need to be the opportunity for feedback, which leans into the involved.”
     • [1:15:35] “And that if we bring some kind of model bylaw in, it lands exactly like that. And therein lies the dilemma in that, you know, and I am going to bring this up later. And I realized from your presentation here that that's why the words IAP2 are not used in the project charter.”

193. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, September 23, 2021

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     • [0:49:19] “And so I think it's probably a best practice to allow a response to come in a, in a, in a, in a proactive way, rather than perhaps individual trustees responding with perhaps maybe not complete information.”
     • [0:43:40] “Thank you, Trustee Colburn. Indeed, in the past, Trust Council has passed motions to that effect, and we have advised certainly doesn't hurt to revisit them from time to time, so thank you for that.”
     • [0:22:05] “And of course, Alistair McGregor, the MP in my region, has also got private members bill on the table there to affect some change there.”

194. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, September 22, 2021

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     • [5:42:41] “So I think that you can see the photograph that I've not a good photograph I apologize, but that's a photograph that I've shared on the screen here with you are Ruth being blanketed and receiving a beautiful panel paddle, and as the, and I forget their names”
     • [6:01:04] “Okay, thank you, Robert. I would like to offer the courtesy to the Chair of Regional Planning Committee. If you have any brief remarks with respect to these reports and the request to Council. Otherwise, we'll just ask if there's questions.”
     • [7:43:38] “Because I think having a discussion defeats the purpose of an RWM, which is an authority that we've been given by the province to be able to do, which I think the authority from the province implies there will be no discussion.”

195. Islands Trust Council community information meeting, September 20, 2021

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     • [0:47:08] “But, you know, who is it that determines the capacity of a hall because often the fire marshal has an indication and there's often two indicators, one is a seating capacity, and one is a standing capacity, and just wonder how that will be sorted out.”
     • [0:59:12] “And I do believe that if that individual wanted more time than the two minutes that we allot during a town hall to make a presentation, extension of the time to all members of the community that were attending the meeting is a decision that Council”
     • [0:59:29] “could make on the, on the fly, and, and that would facilitate that but I had some concerns about the disruption of the agenda because especially on this, because we're trying to go to the”

196. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, September 13, 2021

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     • [1:09:02] “motion is after discussion is no longer considered necessary you will require a motion to withdraw”
     • [0:59:47] “were not invited it's terrific that people speak up but i think it's better probably to receive it”
     • [0:59:39] “offended if some were offered the opportunity to be engaged engaged in this processes and others”

197. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, September 8, 2021

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     • [1:16:10] “So then if there's no objections to that or the documents, then let's advance 7.1.1.2.1 and 7.1.2.2 to post the updates on the Thursday portion of the three-day schedule, just for clarity.”
     • [3:39:11] “This executive committee initiated and this is 9.2.11 is from Trustee Rogers regarding webinars and indigenous perspectives on climate change discussion.”
     • [0:00:17] “I always think that fall has begun when the kids go back to school and you start thinking about what's going to happen for the remainder of the year.”

198. Islands Trust Executive Committee regular meeting, September 2, 2021

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     • [2:54:21] “And I think there's a misunderstanding whenever we use the words forestry, logging, clear cut means different things to different people because if somebody's clear cutting their lot, sure, okay, they cut all the trees down on their lot to build a house or build a road or whatever it is.”
     • [3:33:10] “And whether or not you feel that there's anything that you would like to share or whether you want to listen and probably not the best solution would be to be unstructured and have you chime in where you thought it was necessary, because it maybe needs to be scripted to some extent.”
     • [2:31:58] “So, you know, it's for me it's it's it's runway three, and it's spend a decent amount of money to make sure we have the capacity within the staff side of it because there's no sense in spending $150,000 on consultancy and delivery.”

199. Islands Trust Financial Planning Committee regular meeting, September 1, 2021

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     • [0:38:42] “And so to me, it sends a message about, oh, we weren't really serious about wanting to raise the fees. And so I guess that's a thought. I would sooner make the assumption that LTCs were going to embrace this fully and support a more wholesome revenue stream.”
     • [0:39:02] “And at the end of the day, if it turns out that that assumption was incorrect, then when we report on it that fees were lower than anticipated because LTCs did not adopt the new fee structure, that's a different message than we were on budget.”
     • [0:38:15] “that has gone into reviewing the fees and the strong messaging about increasing the revenues”

200. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee special meeting, August 31, 2021

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     • [0:51:51] “So that, you know, it does actually make some sense to me. I wonder if some wording in the motion that maybe options that staff work with the task force to report back on options to coordinate a multi-jurisdictional meeting might actually just set the tone collaboratively with the task force,”
     • [3:23:12] “Well, I'm just wondering where the Ministry of Forests is, I guess, Flynn Road, we call them these days, or even Fire Smart BC, because it strikes me that my island and a number of other islands have actually had a risk assessment done by staff at those agencies.”
     • [4:03:42] “Okay, great. So staff will provide the report. And Jason, thank you for the conversation the other day. And we'll hear from them. And then we'll ask if you concur with the reports and the questions will make a decision here.”

201. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, August 27, 2021

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     • [1:31:13] “And so I think that there's potential for some formatting, and if that's what you mean by structure, some formatting and layout and definitions and, you know, how materials within the document are referenced, because indeed, if we can provide an opportunity for people when they're reading it to focus on the areas that they're interested in, if we can provide those tools within the document to facilitate that, we would all obviously be much better off.”
     • [1:06:08] “Oh, that the, this, you know, it's interesting, there's subtleties to this as well that we need to consider as local government, we need to apply our critical lens to all of these activities and apply what we know as to be this situation and the facts, as opposed to what it is assumptions that the public may make and speak about in social media and other places.”
     • [1:32:09] “Because I think that that's what we're doing communications-wise in this century, and not to say that that hasn't been done already, but how can we enhance that? I really like the word enhance. How can we enhance this educational opportunity, this learning opportunity to gather broad understanding?”

202. Gambier Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, August 25, 2021

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     • [2:59:14] “Certainly, I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, but Gambier and Thedas and maybe others are looking at specifically shoreline development work, and we can either embark upon that journey on our own, or indeed using this initial piece of work, or we can embark upon a journey that is taking a much more federated view of how to achieve that.”
     • [2:48:42] “I do agree we need more resources, but at the same time, we need to demonstrate leadership at the LTC level and the trustee and theirs and all of us together and provide some focus on identifying what the priorities are.”
     • [2:48:58] “And so it may be a little premature to jump into that as a recommendation when it may be that there's some other things that will become obvious to us in the near future.”

203. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, August 4, 2021

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     • [3:19:05] “I wonder if we couldn't, as a standard sort of procedure, actually include, you know, obviously an average number because people are going to come and go, whether or not there's the ability to report how many people might be attending on live streaming.”
     • [1:26:54] “Well, there we go. I agree with you. And I think that indeed, we wouldn't necessarily, not that the CAO wouldn't do a fabulous job in everything that he does.”
     • [3:32:17] “Right. Okay, anything else on this list of correspondence, although one I do think is worthy of just noting is the Liskety Island Conservation Opportunity.”

204. Thetis Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, August 3, 2021

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     • [0:07:29] “I think, you know, it seemed like a lot of people, 1,500 was the number I heard on the news this morning, and lots of people from all over the Cowichan Valley, Penelope, Cooper Island, of course, and then, of course, many survivors and victims and supporting family members from many other nations up and down the island”
     • [0:26:34] “And I thought you might be able to find that old permit easier than I could, just for reference to come to some understanding about what might be a best practice for anybody with respect to blasting operations and raptor and other wildlife habitat.”
     • [0:26:12] “So, I thank you for contacting them. I think what would my perhaps intent was for us to be able to review what the old permit now looked like because I, with the change of the website, I've been unable to actually find that effectively.”

205. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, July 27, 2021

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     • [2:46:37] “My message to everybody is conserve, make sure any vulnerabilities in your water systems are looked after, because if we have water and we lose it because of a failure of a pipe, which I know happens, it has happened even on my own island, where pipes have heated up on these hot days and burst, and an entire water tank is drained.”
     • [4:28:10] “So, ostensibly all those things that are an offence of the TUP and the guidelines would have to be moved or gone and Planner Mace, perhaps you can assist here, that if they wanted to run an office only at that location, that would be a different application.”
     • [2:46:09] “So, appreciate that messaging, frequent and often, and we will do what we can to support agriculture on Salt Spring, as Trustee Patrick has suggested, with respect to policy statement amendments.”

206. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, July 21, 2021

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     • [2:08:39] “decision. Nobody on staff made that decision. The chair made that decision. And I made that decision, not fully on all information that that was a bit I didn't have the information available to me that was able to actually indicate the numbers but I certainly had a sense of watching the numbers that there was enough people in the room that were still online trustees that were online.”
     • [2:56:55] “I will just say I've come to a place where I am satisfied to advance this document to a much broader audience, which is what we've been asked to do, to actually get the full meal deal feedback from everybody in the room, not just those that were lucky enough or fortunate enough or inquisitive enough to find out about it.”
     • [3:31:23] “I guess my, so I want to acknowledge that we're returning from our break here at the Executive Committee meeting of July 21st, and acknowledge that we're working in Coast Salish Territory, broadly across the Salish Sea, and grateful for that opportunity.”

207. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, July 15, 2021

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     • [1:05:51] “you for drawing our attention to that. And I'm just going to go to, because there was a question in there, Stefan, regional planning manager CIRMAC, a question about, do we have map? Is this map? Do we have addresses?”
     • [0:59:41] “And let's come to a place where we understand each other's perspectives and how it is that we can collaborate and work together to come to a common understanding and provide some vision and direction.”
     • [0:35:37] “And just ask Stefan, does that seem to be a complete or does it go too far or should we say less or more of a regional planning manager for Servamark?”

208. Islands Trust Council community information meeting, July 8, 2021

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     • [0:32:18] “Thank you, David Critchley. And indeed, I certainly hope we don't have to take the rest of the day because we've got a very important business item ahead of us. So speakers on the motion, and I see two hands up so far. And we'll begin with Trustee Brent, followed by Trustee Bishaykin.”
     • [1:33:00] “So the piece of information I'd like to share with you just to make sure it's not a loss is the CAO received a petition here from a couple of members of our community yesterday that it seemed to be two or three individual petitions contained into one piece of which.”
     • [1:01:32] “Thank you, everybody. It is kind of a gray line, speaking to the motion versus generally what you've heard and what you think what the thinking is in your communities and maybe that's not necessarily possible. So let's just conduct ourselves as best as we can.”

209. Islands Trust Council community information meeting, July 7, 2021

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     • [2:05:03] “So let's keep rolling here. We're at 833. I think I said we would go to 915, given that we started late because of the power outage and stuff. So welcome, everybody that has had the opportunity to join us. I think we've had a little over 30 speakers so far, and we've got quite a few more to go here.”
     • [0:08:55] “At this session, we want to provide you information about what the policy statement is, why it needs updating, how we're getting the work done, how we have sought public input to date, and how we will provide opportunities for much more engagement in the months to come.”
     • [0:15:57] “Once everyone has had an opportunity to provide input through the mail, email, and formal public engagement opportunities like local trust committee meetings, surveys, and webinars, the formal engagement process will start later this summer and go into the fall.”

210. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, June 29, 2021

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     • [3:25:45] “I don't necessarily expect that, yeah, go ahead, this is great, because I think it's actually in the doing, not in us approving this covenant, but in what happens next and that we work with the property owner in the event that there's something that comes up and that we collaborate with Source Nations to do the right thing.”
     • [0:11:25] “Mayor Mrakas, The preparation work to get us to this meeting today, so the first item on the agenda would be the previous meeting minutes and we have draft minutes of May, the 25th before us for adoption, are there any changes to those minutes trustees.”
     • [4:01:58] “continuing apace. That was what that phone call was about down in Saanich with the Dead Boat Society and the First Nations owned corporation that's doing the retrievals and stuff. And so that's good news. That'll be proceeding according to plan.”

211. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, June 23, 2021

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     • [2:27:14] “And we're actually not attracting members of the communities where we would have been meeting previously, which was, you know, is part and parcel of the whole reason why we go to islands was to draw those community members into our council meetings and tell us what's happening in their area.”
     • [2:10:01] “Okay. So then I wasn't really prepared for this because we do this in a different way. But I would like to then also say that by general consent that the minutes of June the 8th to 20th be forwarded to council for inclusion in the July 7th and 8th.”
     • [1:03:30] “So just very briefly, I want to actually acknowledge and thank the Executive Committee for deciding to not have our teleconference call last week, which we would normally have to catch up on these reports, but don't want to report that.”

212. Islands Trust Council community information meeting, June 21, 2021

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     • [1:16:25] “If we don't move that and get you to move in the direction of public hearing, and if we want to consider only discussion today with no amendments and consider amendments at some future meeting, obviously that is going to push that back beyond August and would just like to see, and I'm not going to specify when that might be, because potentially there may be a necessity for a special meeting in between and whether you've considered that or not.”
     • [0:19:00] “If there's nothing further in the elected reports, this is an opportunity to go to town hall, and so if anybody has anything that they'd like to address specifically on our agenda today to assist us in making our decisions as we move through the rest of the agenda, we appreciate that, and this is your opportunity.”
     • [3:02:05] “I just want to check with Heather that she was in agreement with that, that all three meetings, community information meeting, public hearing, and local trust committee meeting could all happen in one meeting. There are some efficiencies to that. It may be a long day.”

213. Islands Trust Programs Committee regular meeting, June 15, 2021

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     • [3:05:44] “And if they if the regional districts come to us and say hey we've got this project and what do you think and what about your zoning, and we get, and we would respond no, not our jurisdiction that wouldn't be serving our communities.”
     • [3:05:56] “And so it's, you know, we clear land to build houses. Houses are fundamental to what we do, because people live here. And I think we need to reflect on that in our work is my thoughts there. So I just want to share that with you.”
     • [3:05:30] “Because I think in my experience, regional districts come to us, especially on affordable housing projects and say, hey, you support this or how can you help, can you help us in some way, or there's always some back and forth.”

214. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, June 7, 2021

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     • [0:14:40] “perhaps we should write a thank you and a message to the advocates that were responsible for helping”
     • [0:22:44] “is the worst kind of fire there's so much fuel and to contain it all the fly ash and everything else”
     • [0:05:06] “Laurie to consider the next set of minutes and so I guess the question becomes do you want to delete”

215. Thetis Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, June 1, 2021

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     • [0:16:14] “One motion from the Islands Trust respecting changing to public notices in newspapers was endorsed by them and that will now move on to UBCM for consideration by the province and it's hopeful that we can get some changes there because, as many of you know,”
     • [1:16:18] “So there's a, you know, I don't know what the outcome is, but I just want to say there's an amazing opportunity for here for us to learn about things and find ways to adapt these things into what we do and how we think about things.”
     • [0:15:54] “ABICC was a few days ago, the Association of Vancouver Island Coastal Communities, there was a real, it was a first, was it the first? Maybe not.”

216. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, May 31, 2021

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     • [1:16:10] “In fact, I think of our minister, Josie Osborne, as our champion, and that if I can develop awareness, understanding, and support from our minister, that minister can go to her cabinet to seek support for issues that are important to the Islands Trust Council, which spans all of the entire spectrum, which has been discussed.”
     • [1:24:38] “I think that the element of advocacy is not so much advocating other agencies to support what we want to do, but advocating to the public at large, and I'm speaking about nationally, because of what often is juxtaposed is this is in the national best interest.”
     • [0:49:57] “Mayor Mrakas, yeah and not said, you know, certainly it's probably correct that getting a report that indicates some change in allocation of resources.”

217. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, May 26, 2021

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     • [7:07:56] “John Potter, Is the do we need to respond to this, I think we just receive it for information yeah alright so we'll receive that for information review and amendment in the current work program see items 7.17 that's in the agenda package going to counsel you approve that going to counsel so i'm guessing you're satisfied with the current status of that.”
     • [6:47:49] “And it seems to be an interesting little dichotomy in that we can fund legal advice where necessary, and yet we can't necessarily maybe fund some other access because if indeed as trust, and I'm sure I know it's right, as Trustee Faust has indicated that the cost of professional services is way above and beyond the amount per year that is available.”
     • [5:45:21] “Okay. So I think that completes correspondence. Thank you for the hearty discussion. And I'm sorry to have contributed to making it more difficult. I did. These are challenges. I'm going to go to executive committee projects. I'm just trying to figure out, is that it for the, that is it for the”

218. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, May 25, 2021

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     • [3:13:51] “helpful. So Chris, I'm presuming you can hear us. So you have two devices connected. I'm guessing you must be speaking. Oh, well, I see that's been promoted. Maybe you can unmute the other device. Although you might get an echo and a feedback, but give that a try. Can we promote the other Chris Anderson staff?”
     • [3:40:51] “Naturally, when we got to the smaller associated islands and other smaller areas that are less populated, and quite honestly, about as climate friendly as a place ever gets, their power consumption and energy consumption is completely negligible on a global scale.”
     • [3:41:39] “And we, you know, I would say we've bent the rules successfully in a number of places by suggesting that LTCs would meet 50% of the requirements as specified by surrounding areas or something, some language around that line, which just simply tosses a number out.”

219. Islands Trust Executive Committee regular meeting, May 14, 2021

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     • [4:10:41] “Right. So for me, that's what carrying capacity is. And so that said, I think it's probably impossible to determine the kind of carrying capacity of the Gulf Islands if you're measuring it against surrounding urban areas, because we can't use the”
     • [4:26:33] “And not affordable, which is interesting enough and a two by four used to cost a buck 50 now seven bucks. So, what does that look like, I just need some help there to understand that it”
     • [2:59:11] “I think that there will be more opportunity for more input, especially when we get to what I consider to be first draft that says this is our intent.”

220. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, May 10, 2021

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     • [0:53:09] “And I am very grateful for that because I can see immediately that the depth and breadth of their knowledge is definitely going to be able to allow them to assess our work, who we are, how we're doing, and see potentially opportunities for us there, which I will say may be of an administrative nature, but also may and I hope will be of a political nature.”
     • [1:43:12] “I didn't actually speak to the timeline I shouldn't need, you know, principally don't have any objections. However, as indicated earlier, it's really critical to counsel be aware of what their expectations are, because certainly there are expectations upon delivery.”
     • [1:40:31] “Again, there are some questions I have about communications, as was indicated by Jim, I think, and that indeed, you know, we've spent a lot of time over the years trying to move the dial on public engagement.”

221. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, May 5, 2021

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     • [5:23:24] “does but I'm trying to reflect on my own memory which is often problematic anyway now we do have a closed meeting and so I'll thank all the members of the public for joining us today and and and watching us conduct our business here appreciate that and now we're going to I'll ask for motion to go in camera and we will not be returning to a public meeting and we will rise and report at a future meeting if necessary.”
     • [1:18:54] “We can certainly, as we always do when the agenda comes out we go, and it's easy to do the math we could even do it time slots if we wanted to on the agenda to go delegation 1234 10 minutes piece and and and leave and just leave it at that, rather than”
     • [5:12:48] “But the exclusion of the previous version of that, which wasn't obvious because we didn't get a track change version, we just got the finished version of it, the implications are that there were things that were changed that would enable this.”

222. Islands Trust Programs Committee regular meeting, May 3, 2021

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     • [2:52:47] “that all those timelines evolve and indeed whether or not there's consideration executive committee”
     • [2:15:57] “And then I want to thank the CAO and Deb yourself and others that have provided some of the context”
     • [2:16:47] “better not perfect but better and you know in the old in the mediation world what can we live with”

223. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, April 27, 2021

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     • [3:51:47] “Yeah, Chris, Planner Mays. Obviously, you know, it seems to me this is an incremental process, right, of which if we're talking about a one-year temporary use permit or a three-year temporary use permit, the investment necessary to get the reporting to facilitate that for a short period of time is difficult to amortize the costs over.”
     • [1:32:13] “But in terms of a survey, I have difficulty with setting that kind of a tone and that it's not yes or no or maybe it's loaded with some other things that I think might help some people that are reluctant to participate in this survey,”
     • [3:40:28] “There are options to rezone not only this property but other properties and some would be obviously more successful than others. And I appreciate that you're looking around to see what your options are.”

224. Islands Trust Conservancy Board community information meeting, April 21, 2021

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     • [0:11:12] “thank you, Director Rogers. So my thoughts on this are, you know, it's hard to imagine, but this late in the term, where we may be running out of time, part of the idea was to introduce the new LTC and the director to the islands in a way that is not possible other than visiting the location.”
     • [0:11:47] “I do, however, think, as expressed, I think, by all of you, that it's certainly an important thing and is an important thing, particularly as an opportunity for engagement with the Sinawas Nation.”
     • [0:17:25] “Dave Kuntz, regional planning manager car i'm assuming you brought that and I see that indeed there's not necessarily direct conflict, but certainly a busy day on November, the 10th over to you.”

225. Islands Trust Executive Committee regular meeting, April 14, 2021

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     • [1:56:07] “Thank you very much. And thank you for your support, David. That concludes bylaws for approval and consideration. And just we're going to move through the rest of the agenda here, not seeing anything listed until I get the trust area services.”
     • [2:41:00] “I echo lots of the thoughts. I can see lots of challenges going with this, and I look forward to more updates as you evolve the situation. Is that okay, CEO? Do you have something else to add?”
     • [2:55:32] “The introduction of a bylaw for approval by EC isn't intended to have you report on the entire thing unless it's simple and straightforward and you're comfortable with doing it.”

226. Thetis Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, April 13, 2021

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     • [2:21:49] “Certainly, it's the most powerful tool, but in the absence of historic weaknesses in the zoning or the development of property as a result of historic zoning, I think we're trying to compensate for that with development permit areas by saying, well, this is what your zoning is, but if you want to do this in this area that we've now identified as being special, that you need to apply for a permit with this.”
     • [2:04:54] “Perhaps, Marnie, you might recall, Jamie, I'm not sure that you were involved in it at that time, there was no sort of final report on that housing, that house development project where they embraced that Green Shores practices to protect their shoreline, which anecdotally, I've spoken with the property owner, and it was very successful.”
     • [0:36:08] “actually, I do have one question, as I reflected here. Was there any, and I don't recall, and I could have done my homework, I'll admit that, of the adjacent properties that were notified, was there any negative response from any of those parties?”

227. Islands Trust Programs Committee regular meeting, April 8, 2021

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     • [3:10:54] “But I also, it seems to me that we do need more clarity for everybody about participation and recusing oneself from the decision making because that seemed to be the other hurdle that we are having difficulty with because indeed it's difficult to separate funding allocation, a limited pot of money amongst a number of applications when there are pros and cons to funding one or the other more.”
     • [3:43:28] “Thank you, Chair. I think, you know, you've actually characterized this the best way, Chair Morrison, in that we need a better process. And, you know, I'm kind of a digital guy, and it's all about ones and zeros, as opposed to analog, where it's all gray.”
     • [3:14:04] “I'm sure that the Bain Sound, you know, one particular project whose timing is of their next meeting, I can imagine there are opportunities to delay whatever actions may have a fiscal implication for them in the short term.”

228. Islands Trust Programs Committee regular meeting, April 8, 2021

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     • [3:43:30] “And I think that in a process like this, if we have a numerical measurement opportunity to, we specify some criteria and then the applicants are measured according to how they met the criteria.”
     • [3:43:45] “Then you sort of, it's almost a bit of an arm's length decision because you just do the math and the higher scores win.”
     • [3:14:13] “But I think that these issues need to be addressed in order for us to be able to move forward in a responsible manner.”

229. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, March 29, 2021

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     • [1:17:27] “I would wonder whether or not the committee would entertain a motion at this time, and then, therefore, whether or not there's an expression of interest by other members on this committee that if we did select three members of this committee, and we asked the CAO to determine a selection of members from his senior staff, that that would be satisfactory to the committee.”
     • [1:17:01] “Okay. Thank you, Trustee Brent. You know, although I brought it up that I was uncomfortable with the other members not being here, primarily because I have some inclination to want one of the members not present to sit on that, being Deb Morrison, who has significant government experience in these sorts of affairs.”
     • [0:28:25] “just feeling that a bit of a disadvantage because two members of the committee are not present and therefore their voices are not going to be heard and or their participation may be difficult to solicit or appoint.”

230. Islands Trust Executive Committee regular meeting, March 24, 2021

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     • [1:09:13] “And so we've heard directly from three at the political level. Certainly there's been communications with other nations through staff, but I look forward to us engaging more and having deeper conversations to determine how it is that we can collaborate and work together to include all of the First Nations concerns with respect to that work that is going on.”
     • [2:12:23] “Mayor Mrakas, Other so I just i'm thinking about a broader conversation than just executive committee around that perhaps the CEO would like to chime in and reflect on my my thoughts, this is my suggestion, there was some support from the CEO i'll just let him speak for himself if you wish.”
     • [3:58:43] “So I'll call for the vote. All those in favor? Any opposed? None opposed? That carries. Sue Ellen, thank you very much for bringing this to us. I'm sorry for trying to move you along there, but I'm just conscious that we've got a lot of items left on the agenda here today.”

231. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, March 23, 2021

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     • [0:27:31] “I live in Liaxon and Penelakut territory, and it's a real honor and privilege for me to be able to live, wake up every day here in this amazing part of the world with such incredibly rich history and culture surrounding us.”
     • [1:59:32] “Okay. Is this not contingent, however, though, on the Executive Committee approving it and returning it to the LTC?”
     • [0:31:54] “Um just prior to the break where we discussed appointments, uh regarding the ganges village plan task force”

232. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, March 8, 2021

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     • [0:00:26] “And this morning, actually, mobile, I find myself in Palau Territory on the Chimenez River, and it's a real pleasure to be here in this particular place, but in the Salish Sea generally, to be able to live and work here and recognize the rich history of this place.”
     • [0:40:26] “I'll just remark, you know, you've often heard me say that the Towns Trust never sleeps and there's certainly a constant flow of communication and leading up to council is always an interesting time.”
     • [0:00:05] “Okay, well, very good. So, good morning, everyone, and good morning to viewers out there that have wanted to check in on the Executive Committee this morning.”

233. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, March 1, 2021

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     • [1:08:50] “And so that said, I picked up from Trustee Critchley, and perhaps there might be some clarity there, that he had perhaps said, and maybe I misheard, that local government experience wasn't necessarily something that would be that important.”
     • [1:42:22] “I'd just say that I completely agree with Trustee Critchley, but I think what's important is that that conversation be had, that that's what this committee agrees upon.”
     • [1:08:31] “I have been criticized myself in the past for thinking that what we do is just a business and that we should prescribe standard business practices to doing things.”

234. Islands Trust Executive Committee regular meeting, February 24, 2021

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     • [2:08:41] “Oh, before we go on there, actually, because of the strategic plan elements and what you were suggesting there, Laura, just a note in passing that, of course, there's some suggestions that some items should be removed from the strategic plan because of the nature of them being local trust committee work and not in the policy statement work.”
     • [4:11:54] “Yeah. So moved. Seconded by Sue Ellen Fast. Thank you. Any discussion? All those in favor? That carries unanimously. And I will just say to Vice Chairs that what's really important in this work that's going on, that John has been involved in this for 25 years, and trying to figure out where the vessels are and where the debris is.”
     • [4:03:56] “So actually, the fiber cable is here already. It's just to run that last mile. And so that advocacy is happening locally here. And we're hopeful that that might come to something. But it's amazing. You said $2.5 million for a trail on Main Island, $2.5 million to deliver a fiber optic cable to Thetis Island.”

235. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, February 17, 2021

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     • [2:10:08] “And we want to think about how it is that we can support the people that are not as well off as others in our communities. And that isn't necessarily through taxation or through our own taxation or through any other mechanisms that might be available to us directly, rather than influencing the shape and character of our communities.”
     • [2:35:36] “Islands with smaller populations have less ability or resources to do the work that is necessary to preserve and protect this area as part of the Islands Trust, whereas the more populated areas and greater assessed values might have a greater ability, but the responsibility lies to protect the entire area.”
     • [2:15:20] “And so, therefore, what we're doing is maybe not as obvious in those locations. I would say that in the more higher density population areas where the impacts are greater, the work of the Islands Trust is more relevant and much more controversial all at the same time.”

236. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, February 16, 2021

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     • [0:29:10] “I actually appreciated Deb Morrison's comments about having something where, as we go through it, we can actually all come to some agreement so that when it gets to the next stage, it's actually more advanced than, for instance, me submitting the materials that I have.”
     • [0:38:35] “And if there's some other comments in the same section by others, then it would be good to have that conversation on those sections as we go through.”
     • [0:29:00] “So I'm just wanting to be sure that all of our time is being used effectively and that you can advance this in a reasonable way.”

237. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, February 16, 2021

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     • [2:30:00] “So welcome back, everybody. Thank you for joining us. My name is Peter Luckham. I'm the chair of the Island Trust Local Trust Committee here on Salt Spring Island. I live on the Thetis Island, and that is in the Laiacson and Penelope Territory, and I am grateful to live and work throughout the Coast Salish territories of the many nations that this is their home since the beginning of time.”
     • [0:14:41] “Okay, great. And so then, indeed, I just want to recognize that the budget survey information is included here. And indeed, the two questions specific to this request, there's mixed support, I'll put it. But nonetheless, there's a motion there to endorse this, and I'd be pleased to hear that.”
     • [0:46:16] “So I'm going to go to 9.6, if that's all right, a letter from our colleague, Trustee Rogers, on behalf of Main Island, that is expressing an interest in collaborating with us on the short-term vacation rentals, which was a letter that went out to the rest of the Gulf Islands.”

238. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee special meeting, February 11, 2021

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     • [0:45:52] “Thank you, Anne. Also very well said. And although, you know, we certainly have a time frame, there's no necessity to be in a hurry in order to do this right. And I'm sure that the trustees will agree with that concept. So, Gordon, over to you next.”
     • [1:21:27] “But I know agriculture is something that is commonly talked about. And if we haven't said that out loud, that is quite likely an oversight. So if you've made a submission to that process already, then thank you.”
     • [1:03:06] “you, Gordon. I wonder, Planner Mace, I don't see any other hands right up at the moment, but with respect to the terms of reference,”

239. Islands Trust Council community information meeting, February 10, 2021

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     • [3:18:40] “I originally put my hand up on a process point that not everybody will necessarily be aware of because it's not generally used within Robert's rules, is to, because you've got four, now five points on a main motion, it might be that indeed individuals want to debate one or the other rather than all.”
     • [0:24:02] “But I think the gap is still wide. And I think that those operational costs, heat, light, computers, coffee, pens, papers, all that stuff is relevant in this conversation that that is part and parcel of fuel costs and mileage and, you know, the list goes on and on and on.”
     • [1:43:45] “And I think that my emphasis has been is not burdening all the other taxpayers for the cost of that development when they're not necessarily benefiting in any way, although certainly there may be some community benefits but for the most part the development”

240. Thetis Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, February 9, 2021

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     • [2:35:56] “just thinking that through my head, I am the wheels are turning, you can see them, right? I was actually thinking that some by not actually using the word protection, the regional planning manager was being very strategic in embracing a conversation that doesn't have an outcome necessarily, or concluded conclusions that we're bringing in protection regulation.”
     • [1:23:19] “And so is there some language that could be contained in this DPA that would recognize that, you know, the obvious thing is, is for the applicant to conclude that phase of the project, which would be good news for all of us, I think, the community and the strata, to conclude that to get it completed.”
     • [1:01:38] “But given the proximity of some of the roadways to the protected area, I think that we want to be generous, I guess is the only word I can come to, with respecting the local knowledge and ability of the residents to be able to, in fact, simply pull broom or other species.”

241. Islands Trust Programs Committee regular meeting, February 5, 2021

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     • [1:20:19] “And I think the engagement and I'm thinking about I've shared with Claire a symposium style format where people can be invited, welcomed, facilitate sort of casual conversation like at a reception in rooms or something and then bring everybody back together for plenary sort of discussion videos and then go back into groups to allow some interaction so that it's more welcoming than a talking heads kind of a thing.”
     • [1:06:46] “And indeed, you know, this is ostensibly the budget approval council meeting, and we're looking at essentially two and a half quite long days and wanted to balance the ability of everybody to be able to be energized and focused and absorbing the conversation, balancing the necessity for public input, both on this topic and on the budget topic.”
     • [1:20:03] “But I really wanted to mention, actually, I've spoken with Claire and would encourage staff to really think about the event itself, because, of course, everybody on the planet has been so involved in electronic meetings of various descriptions.”

242. Islands Trust Programs Committee regular meeting, February 3, 2021

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     • [1:44:20] “Because I think that we want to be sure that everybody's stepping up and drawing attention to the issues that are important so that we can have the full conversation here to go forth confidently that we've engaged with council and council is content with the direction and has resolved some of the outstanding issues.”
     • [1:47:33] “And then reflecting on the two efforts that we made in that direction, whether or not that's something we would continue or not, because, indeed, we need to get good participants or a broader spectrum of diversity of participants in order to continue warrant doing that, I think.”
     • [2:38:24] “That's fine. But that other things flow from that and are are are measured against that framework, I think, is helpful to facilitate us getting to a place of common understanding and consensus might be a strong word, but some kind of common understanding.”

243. Thetis Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, February 2, 2021

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     • [0:08:27] “The Cowichan Valley Regional District, the Strathcona Regional District, and the Minister of Citizen Services of the Local Trust Committee's interest and that it supports funding for fiber connection to Thetis Island, as well as funding for Internet Service Provider, ISP, supported last mile fiber connections to all homes on Thetis Island, including advising the Cowichan Valley Regional District that the Local Trust Committee supports their interest in providing the 10% funding to Thetis Island.”
     • [0:50:54] “And the habitat that's there is a corridor for a significant percentage, and 75% is the number that I'm aware of, of all of those other animals that are on the island that use that area.”
     • [0:51:08] “And so by default, by protecting that area, we are providing some level, not complete protection for all of those other species that exist in that habitat.”

244. Gambier Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, February 1, 2021

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     • [3:42:53] “But and it doesn't look like maybe you got the December or January when I'm sort of thinking there's another one in there where it's identified that maybe that was just a letter that went out to everybody that Kate Emmings has taken the full time job of the manager.”
     • [0:29:39] “I didn't need the full meal deal, but I'm glad that I had got that, and maybe we could talk offline about it, because I guess my concern there, and I don't live there, and I don't have to deal with it.”
     • [2:18:00] “Okay. And William, of course, too. Yeah. Okay. So let's, and so, Will, could you put a message up on the screen and include that in the conversation with Peter that we're recessing until 1215?”

245. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, January 22, 2021

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     • [1:30:37] “So what was the question again? And what you were, yes, pleasing there, Peter. And Louise, I'm having a little trouble with a funny, I tried adjusting my sound. There's a little bit of funny echo or feedback that's making it difficult for me to hear clearly what you're saying there. That might be my fault. I don't know.”
     • [1:28:19] “So, is this an appropriate time to now go to Plano Garbo's work that she's brought before us with respect to the charter? Or is there a necessity to do something different at this point? Because there was talk about a strategic plan, but I think maybe let's give Plano Garbo the opportunity to speak to her report.”
     • [0:27:22] “Anyway, so appreciate your introduction there about the necessity for leadership in creating opportunities for housing in respect of the other essential elements of that and the community's needs with respect to the Perseverance Protect mandate and with respect and specifically with climate change.”

246. Islands Trust Financial Planning Committee regular meeting, January 20, 2021

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     • [0:53:16] “And then I just wanted to remind the FPC, that's really significant in all of this. Every year we make a motion to borrow money in case we run out of money. That always exists, and will always continue to exist. And admittedly, we don't want to borrow money, but I think at the same time, Trustee Brennan is saying, we don't want to bank money either. So we need”
     • [0:52:06] “Just before you call it, as the seconder of the motion even, I'm not going to make any amendment, but I'm hoping that in the report on the recommendations with respect to changing the policy, that also what we take into consideration from what I'm hearing is some kind of clarity around contingency.”
     • [0:51:12] “And that a motion that is moved in second is owned by the committee, and the interpretation of friendly is, you know, there's a mythology around that and a practice that has been conducted at the Islands Trust, which I don't think is right.”

247. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, January 19, 2021

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     • [1:37:37] “It's there to help us understand better your advice and the recommendations and how we might alter those recommendations and or put pause on advancing those recommendations in order to get that, the way I see it anyway, get that community input through the task force, the technical working group, engagement with others, off to a good start to help us develop that convergence model.”
     • [3:46:25] “and so I think that, you know, I don't know my messaging here will be is let's get this applicant before the local trust committee as soon as possible so that these uncertainties can be dealt with in a timely fashion because it is at the patience of the community that the bylaws which are in place are temporarily dismissed in order to allow that community need to be served.”
     • [0:11:12] “so Town Hall is scheduled at 1255. We will be leaving for a break sometime before noon and returning at 1230, as is our habit. And then at that point, we'll be doing trustee reports and your report, correspondence, and then Town Hall. So if you wanted to return then, that would be fine. But we won't get to it before 1230 to one o'clock for sure.”

248. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, January 18, 2021

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     • [1:07:51] “I don't know how the procurement process works about how those questions of clarity get answered during the bidding process, because if a contractor comes to us with questions of clarity, one or two might be fine.”
     • [1:27:11] “Are trustees that would support some revision to this document to make it more robust in terms of soliciting the individuals that might choose to take this on and provide us a response in a respectful manner.”
     • [1:27:26] “So I continue to think of that and I've now focused and turned my mind to the scope of work, and I don't really see that scope of work defined in here. And I think that's an important point.”