Thetis Island Local Trust Committee public hearing, October 22, 2024
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Who speaks in this meeting
- Trustee Elliott (trustee) — 84 lines
- Trustee Luckham (trustee) — 38 lines
- Planner Thomaidis (staff) — 33 lines
Transcript
[0:00:04] Trustee Elliott (probable): Well, good morning, Aitskweil everyone, members of the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee.
[0:00:10] Trustee Elliott (probable): I want to begin this meeting by acknowledging we're grateful, as always, to be able to live,
[0:00:16] Trustee Elliott (probable): work, and gather today in locations across the traditional territories of many Coast Salish
[0:00:22] Trustee Elliott (probable): peoples. In particular, the Local Trust Committee of Thetis Island is grateful to be able to work
[0:00:29] Trustee Elliott (probable): in the traditional, unceded, and ancestral territories of the Liacs and First Nation
[0:00:34] Trustee Elliott (probable): and Penelican tribes. And so I'll begin with introductions. This is a special business
[0:00:41] Trustee Elliott (probable): meeting of the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee. I'm joined by your Thetis Island
[0:00:45] Trustee Elliott (probable): local trustees, Trustee Hunter, Ken Hunter. Hello. Hello.
[0:00:51] Trustee Elliott (probable): Thanks for being with us today.
[0:00:52] Trustee Elliott (probable): And Trustee Peter Luckham.
[0:00:55] Trustee Luckham: Good morning. Grateful to be here in Coastal Territory
[0:00:59] Trustee Luckham: and specifically doing work today for the LIACs and First Nation.
[0:01:04] Trustee Luckham: And I'm grateful for this opportunity.
[0:01:07] Trustee Luckham: And certainly there's lessons for us to have learned through this process
[0:01:10] Trustee Luckham: about the Islanders Trust needing more ability to make things easier
[0:01:20] Trustee Luckham: with respect to the work that we want to do with nations.
[0:01:25] Trustee Elliott (probable): Exactly. Thank you.
[0:01:27] Trustee Elliott (probable): And we're supported by staff.
[0:01:30] Trustee Elliott (probable): um i'll introduce our regional planning manager renee jamarat hello thanks for being here uh
[0:01:39] Trustee Elliott (probable): island planner margot tomaitis uh director of trust area services claire frader in the background
[0:01:48] Trustee Elliott (probable): and uh our minute taker and media facilitator lisa millard thank you all for being here
[0:01:55] Trustee Elliott (probable): so with that um and recognizing that um we just have one piece of business for today's meeting
[0:02:06] Trustee Elliott (probable): i'll call the meeting to order and ask for approval of the agenda is there anything to add
[0:02:12] Trustee Elliott (probable): or amend to the agenda today if not i'll take it by general consent that the agenda be adopted
[0:02:20] Trustee Elliott (probable): okay so we've got one business item it is the rezoning application for connected coast
[0:02:26] Trustee Elliott (probable): fiber optic cable installation and there is a staff report this item has been expedited and
[0:02:36] Trustee Elliott (probable): i just want to recognize and thank staff for their hard work in getting us to this place
[0:02:41] Trustee Elliott (probable): and in making this meeting happen so that we could um do the work before us or and get out
[0:02:48] Trustee Elliott (probable): of the way of of work that is needed so that uh connected coast can uh can bring um fiber optic
[0:02:56] Trustee Elliott (probable): the cable to valdez island so renee or sorry margo would you like to introduce your report
[0:03:01] Trustee Elliott (probable): thank you so much hi
[0:03:03] Planner Thomaidis: thanks thanks charlie it um i'm going to share my screen with the
[0:03:06] Planner Thomaidis: recommendations just to make this a little more simple let's see can everyone see that
[0:03:16] Trustee Luckham: yep
[0:03:16] Planner Thomaidis: great yeah so i'm assuming all of you read the report um and are kind of apprised of everything
[0:03:23] Planner Thomaidis: But to summarize, the purpose of this whole report is to advance the Connected Coast rezoning application, which seeks a bylaw amendment in order to add a new use to the marine conservation or W1 zone surrounding Valdez Island to permit the installation and use of fiber optic cable telecommunication public service utility as part of the Connected Coast project led by the Strathcona.
[0:03:53] Planner Thomaidis: a regional district connected coast corporation also the applicant so the report provides the
[0:03:59] Planner Thomaidis: LTC with a copy of the island's trust policy statement directives
[0:04:04] Planner Thomaidis: directives only checklist a copy of the draft bylaw number 115 as well and then seeks the
[0:04:12] Planner Thomaidis: direction on the following recommendations on how to proceed so in summary the LTC previously
[0:04:19] Planner Thomaidis: provided direction to expedite consideration of this application in support of the applicant's
[0:04:26] Planner Thomaidis: deadline to begin installation of the marine cable beginning in November 2024, which is about a week
[0:04:32] Planner Thomaidis: from now. The LTC also directed not to hold a public hearing and to prepare the draft bylaw
[0:04:40] Planner Thomaidis: for readings. And then other factors that staff understand are important considerations for this
[0:04:46] Planner Thomaidis: application are that the applicant's project will provide future high-speed internet access
[0:04:52] Planner Thomaidis: specifically to the LACs and First Nation on Valdez Island. Also, the LTC does not wish to
[0:04:59] Planner Thomaidis: refer bylaw number 115 to First Nations, local governments, or other agencies for review or
[0:05:06] Planner Thomaidis: comment. And at your last meeting, you cited that the applicant has already carried out consultation
[0:05:12] Planner Thomaidis: for the Connected Coast project through the provincial or aquatic crown land
[0:05:16] Planner Thomaidis: authorization application and the federal Transport Canada application
[0:05:22] Planner Thomaidis: process. Therefore staff recommend first, second and third readings of bylaw
[0:05:30] Planner Thomaidis: number 115 and then also that the bylaw be forwarded to the Secretary of the
[0:05:35] Planner Thomaidis: Islands Trust for approval by the Executive Committee at their October
[0:05:38] Planner Thomaidis: October 30th meeting. Thanks so much. And so I'm here.
[0:05:43] Planner Thomaidis: If you have any questions, um, RPM, Renee Jamaret is also here and yeah,
[0:05:48] Planner Thomaidis: Claire, Claire Freider from Trust Area Services, um, is present.
[0:05:52] Planner Thomaidis: And the applicant, um, Christina from Connected Coast and Renee from Connected
[0:05:56] Planner Thomaidis: Coast are, are from City, City West are present to answer any questions as well.
[0:06:02] Planner Thomaidis: Thanks.
[0:06:03] Trustee Elliott (probable): That's wonderful. Thank you. Um, I don't have any questions,
[0:06:07] Trustee Elliott (probable): But if we can articulate the waiving of public hearing and just the reasons for that.
[0:06:16] Trustee Elliott (probable): We've already made a decision that we don't need to hold public hearing.
[0:06:20] Trustee Elliott (probable): But have we had any comments from the public or any questions about this project or application?
[0:06:27] Trustee Elliott (probable): I just want to make sure that we have given proper notice and that everything is in order there.
[0:06:36] Planner Thomaidis: Yes, thanks, Charlie.
[0:06:37] Planner Thomaidis: So no comments from the public have been received at this time.
[0:06:44] Planner Thomaidis: Staff have been in contact with LAACs and First Nation and sent them a copy of the report wording before publishing,
[0:06:53] Planner Thomaidis: but they cited that they didn't have sufficient time to review, so we didn't hear back from them on the report.
[0:07:01] Planner Thomaidis: But other than that, yeah, no other members, public comments have been received at this time. And notice was sent out, I believe, two notices were sent out in the paper on October 10th and October 17th prior to this meeting.
[0:07:20] Planner Thomaidis: Thank
[0:07:21] Trustee Elliott (probable): you for that. And I imagine we might want to talk a little bit about the section on First Nations engagement. You've articulated it very well in the report. And I thank the applicant for sharing information that you have been working closely with all the First Nations that your project is involved with.
[0:07:45] Trustee Elliott (probable): And so I understand that you have summarized the responses from First Nations and not but not shared specific correspondence in regards to your work.
[0:07:57] Trustee Elliott (probable): work and so I just want to sort of bring that loop back to say that the local trust committee
[0:08:03] Trustee Elliott (probable): can be satisfied that meaningful early and ongoing consultation has occurred but it's been
[0:08:11] Trustee Elliott (probable): by the applicant in this project and so Christina I don't know if you want to speak to that at all
[0:08:20] Trustee Elliott (probable): and sort of about that bit of the process yes
[0:08:23] Voice 1: chair thank you for going over that I can confirm
[0:08:27] Voice 1: firm that we've been consulting with various nations who we have landings with, as well as
[0:08:33] Voice 1: if we're passing through their traditional territory starting in 2021. We've been doing
[0:08:40] Voice 1: ongoing consultation and for this specific landing and the marine link as well, we've done
[0:08:47] Voice 1: full consultation with the province for our lands application. That consultation is now closed
[0:08:56] Voice 1: and we've also done a consultation on navigation and the marine aspects with Transport Canada
[0:09:04] Voice 1: for the links outside of this landing as well and we continue to do ongoing engagement with
[0:09:11] Voice 1: any updates regarding to the project or anything like that. Please let me know if I can elaborate
[0:09:17] Voice 1: further.
[0:09:19] Trustee Elliott (probable): Well thank you that's very good. Trustees do you have questions for the applicant or for
[0:09:24] Trustee Elliott (probable): staff or anything that needs clarifying?
[0:09:27] Trustee Luckham: I have none.
[0:09:32] Trustee Elliott (probable): Excellent. So I did want to just note that
[0:09:37] Trustee Elliott (probable): the timeline for this project was extremely short and expedited in order to meet the
[0:09:47] Trustee Elliott (probable): applicant's deadlines. And this would not normally be the way that the local trust committee would
[0:09:53] Trustee Elliott (probable): would like to proceed. I think in future, if applications such as this, in tandem with their
[0:10:00] Trustee Elliott (probable): early and ongoing engagement with First Nations, could consider the local government in regards to
[0:10:07] Trustee Elliott (probable): the zoning needs and the kind of notice that we need to give and the preparation that normally
[0:10:13] Trustee Elliott (probable): goes into amending bylaws such as this. This is a great opportunity for lessons learned and how to
[0:10:19] Trustee Elliott (probable): of work together um and absolutely respect the work that you have done with nations and that is
[0:10:25] Trustee Elliott (probable): the reason we can proceed today it's um we could not proceed of course if there wasn't um fulsome
[0:10:33] Trustee Elliott (probable): engagement and support for this project which there is i'm very happy to see that so
[0:10:38] Trustee Elliott (probable): um bringing it back around um are we ready to move the recommended um motions to amend
[0:10:46] Trustee Elliott (probable): And bye-bye.
[0:10:47] Trustee Elliott (probable): Thank you.
[0:10:48] Trustee Elliott (probable): Trustee Luckham.
[0:10:50] Trustee Luckham: Yeah, I'm happy to proceed with the recommendations,
[0:10:54] Trustee Luckham: but would just like to make a remark with respect to this process.
[0:11:02] Trustee Luckham: It's mostly a footnote, really.
[0:11:04] Trustee Luckham: I would just like to look towards the future in looking at opportunities
[0:11:09] Trustee Luckham: for this LTC and more broadly even for the Islands Trust Federation
[0:11:15] Trustee Luckham: to look at opportunities for relaxing zoning that might exist historically
[0:11:25] Trustee Luckham: on lands that are adjacent, water access areas adjacent to reserve lands
[0:11:34] Trustee Luckham: for which we have no jurisdiction, and even potentially in the future
[0:11:39] Trustee Luckham: for fee-simple lands that may be owned by nations in the future.
[0:11:44] Trustee Luckham: We should look towards an opportunity to remove roadblocks while continuing to respect the natural environment.
[0:11:55] Trustee Luckham: So I just wanted to say that out loud because certainly this has been a really good lesson learned here for myself anyway.
[0:12:05] Trustee Luckham: But if you'd like, I would make the first motion.
[0:12:08] Trustee Luckham: Please do.
[0:12:09] Trustee Luckham: I move that the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee has reviewed the Island's Trust Policy Statement Directive's only checklist and determined that Bylaw No. 115, cited as the Valdez Island Rural Land Use Bylaw 1998, Amendment No. 1, 2024, is not contrary to or at variance with the Island's Trust Policy Statement.
[0:12:28] Trustee Elliott (probable): Call for a seconder?
[0:12:31] Trustee Luckham: Second.
[0:12:33] Trustee Elliott (probable): Trustee Hunter seconds.
[0:12:34] Trustee Elliott (probable): Any discussion on the motion?
[0:12:38] Trustee Elliott (probable): And I'll note that the checklist is on page 10, 11, and 12.
[0:12:46] Trustee Elliott (probable): If not, I'll call for the vote.
[0:12:49] Trustee Elliott (probable): All those in favor?
[0:12:51] Voice 3: Aye.
[0:12:53] Voice 3: All right.
[0:12:54] Trustee Elliott (probable): Thank
[0:12:54] Trustee Luckham: you.
[0:12:55] Voice 3: There you go.
[0:12:57] Trustee Luckham: I'll take the next one, Ken.
[0:12:58] Voice 3: Sure.
[0:13:00] Voice 3: I move that the Fetus Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No.
[0:13:03] Voice 3: 115, cited as Valdez Island Rural Land Use Bylaw 1998,
[0:13:08] Voice 3: 998 amendment number 12024 be read a first time
[0:13:14] Trustee Elliott (probable): excellent second that seconded by trustee luckham
[0:13:18] Trustee Elliott (probable): any further discussion nope all
[0:13:21] Trustee Elliott (probable): those in favor raise your hand or say aye aye
[0:13:24] Trustee Luckham: that is carried
[0:13:25] Trustee Elliott (probable): thank you so
[0:13:28] Trustee Luckham: i will move that the thetis island local trust committee bylaw number 115 cited as
[0:13:33] Trustee Luckham: Valdes Island Rural Land Use By-law Amendment 1998, Amendment Number 1, 2024, be read a second time.
[0:13:42] Voice 3: Second.
[0:13:44] Trustee Elliott (probable): Seconded by Trustee Hunter. Any discussion? All those in favor?
[0:13:49] Voice 3: Aye.
[0:13:50] Voice 3: And
[0:13:50] Trustee Elliott (probable): that is carried. Thank you.
[0:13:53] Voice 3: Okay. I move that the Fiat Island Local Trust Committee By-law Number 115, cited as Valdes
[0:14:00] Voice 3: rural land use bylaw 1998 amendment number one 2024 be read a third time thank
[0:14:08] Trustee Elliott (probable): you seconder
[0:14:12] Trustee Luckham: oh seconding yeah uh
[0:14:14] Trustee Elliott (probable): seconded by trustee luckham any discussion all those in
[0:14:18] Trustee Elliott (probable): favor raise your hand
[0:14:19] Trustee Elliott (probable): just say aye aye three
[0:14:25] Trustee Elliott (probable): and that is carried thank you so much and one more time uh
[0:14:30] Trustee Luckham: number five this
[0:14:34] Voice 1: is
[0:14:34] Trustee Luckham: the fourth motion that's five altogether no the fifth
[0:14:37] Trustee Luckham: we're already at
[0:14:39] Trustee Luckham: so i moved that
[0:14:40] Trustee Luckham: thetis on local trust committee bylaw number 115 cited as valdez island rural land use bylaw number
[0:14:45] Trustee Luckham: 1998 amendment number 1 2024 be forwarded to the secretary of the islands trust for
[0:14:51] Trustee Luckham: the approval by the executive committee second excellent
[0:14:57] Trustee Elliott (probable): seconded by trustee hunter any discussion
[0:14:59] Trustee Elliott (probable): discussion no all
[0:15:01] Trustee Elliott (probable): those in favor trustee hunter your hand is still up but if you are
[0:15:05] Voice 3: all right
[0:15:11] Trustee Elliott (probable): and that is carried and we have concluded the um amendment of this bylaw and
[0:15:19] Trustee Elliott (probable): so we'll it'll be going to executive committee at their october 30th 2024 meeting and if
[0:15:27] Trustee Elliott (probable): If executive committee approves, staff will notify the LTC and following that a resolution without meeting will be initiated for final bylaw adoption and that's so that we can meet the November 1st deadline.
[0:15:41] Trustee Luckham: Excellent. Thank you, Toby.
[0:15:43] Trustee Elliott (probable): Is there anything else, further comments from staff or next steps?
[0:15:49] Voice 3: I would just like to thank staff for their hard work on this.
[0:15:54] Voice 3: second
[0:15:55] Trustee Elliott (probable): i echo that it has been remarkable what you've pulled off in a very short amount of time
[0:16:02] Trustee Elliott (probable): and and we've i agree we've had a lot of lessons learned and uh i just really want to thank
[0:16:08] Trustee Elliott (probable): everybody for pulling together and making this happen so appreciate it okay that concludes our
[0:16:16] Trustee Elliott (probable): our business today um i'll call for adjournment all those in favor all right all
[0:16:23] Trustee Elliott (probable): right well take
[0:16:25] Trustee Elliott (probable): care everyone and
[0:16:27] Trustee Luckham: thank you staff thank
[0:16:29] Trustee Elliott (probable): you so much for being here today bye now thank you for
[0:16:33] Voice 1: having us
The minutes
Official minutes as published by the Islands Trust (source), text extracted automatically.
DRAFT Thetis Island DRAFT 1 Local Trust Committee Special Meeting Minutes October 22, 2024 Thetis Island Local Trust Committee Minutes of Special Meeting Date: Location: October 22, 2024 Electronic Meeting Members Present: Tobi Elliott, Chair Peter Luckham, Local Trustee Ken Hunter, Local Trustee Staff Present: Clare Frater, Director Trust Area Services Renée Jamurat, Regional Planning Manager Margot Thomaidis, Planner 2 Lisa Millard, Meeting Administrator/Recorder Others Present: There were approximately two (2) members of the public in attendance. 1. CALL TO ORDER Chair Elliott called the meeting to order at 9:33 a.m. She acknowledged that the meeting was held on the territory of the Coast Salish First Nations. 2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA By general consent the agenda was approved as presented. 3. BUSINESS ITEMS 3.1 Rezoning Application - Connected Coast Fibre Optic Cable Installation - Staff Report The Planner summarized the staff report and highlighted the following: Application seeks bylaw amendment to add a new use to Marine Conservation (W1) zone to permit the use of fibre-optic telecommunication public utility as part of the Connected Coast project; and Installation of fibre-optic cable will provide future high-speed internet access to the Lyackson First Nation; The applicant was in attendance and spoke to consultation process that had been undertaken with First Nations, Transport Canada, and the provincial government. Discussion ensued and the following points were noted: Public Hearing was waived to expedite the application in order to meet applicant’s installation deadlines; Notices of first reading of the bylaw were published on October 10, 2024 and October 17, 2024 and no comments from the public have been received; DRAFT Thetis Island DRAFT 2 Local Trust Committee Special Meeting Minutes October 22, 2024 Bylaw referrals to First Nations, local governments, and other agencies were waived as applicant engaged with First Nations and provided a summary of responses; therefore, the Local Trust Committee was satisfied extensive consultation was undertaken; It is prudent for the applicant to engage with local government, in tandem with First Nations, to avoid deadline conflicts; and There is future opportunity for Islands Trust to relax zoning that might historically exist on lands and water access areas adjacent to First Nation’s reserve lands in which Islands Trust does not have jurisdiction while continuing to respect the environment. TH-2024-025 It was MOVED and SECONDED that the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee has reviewed the Islands Trust Policy Statement Directives Only Checklist and determined that Bylaw No. 115 cited as “Valdes Island Rural Land Use Bylaw, 1998, Amendment No. 1, 2024” is not contrary to or at variance with the Islands Trust Policy Statement. CARRIED TH-2024-026 It was MOVED and SECONDED that the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 115 cited as “Valdes Island Rural Land Use Bylaw, 1998, Amendment No. 1, 2024”, be read a first time. CARRIED TH-2024-027 It was MOVED and SECONDED that the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 115 cited as “Valdes Island Rural Land Use Bylaw, 1998, Amendment No. 1, 2024”, be read a second time. CARRIED TH-2024-028 It was MOVED and SECONDED that the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 115 cited as “Valdes Island Rural Land Use Bylaw, 1998, Amendment No. 1, 2024”, be read a third time. CARRIED TH-2024-029 It was MOVED and SECONDED that the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 115 cited as “Valdes Island Rural Land Use Bylaw, 1998, Amendment No. 1, 2024”, be forwarded to the Secretary of the Islands Trust for approval by the Executive Committee. CARRIED DRAFT Thetis Island DRAFT 3 Local Trust Committee Special Meeting Minutes October 22, 2024 4. ADJOURNMENT By general consent the meeting was adjourned at 9:50 a.m. _________________________ Tobi Elliott, Chair Certified Correct: _________________________ Lisa Millard, Meeting Administrator/Recorder