Islands Trust Council regular meeting, February 11, 2025

[0:00:00] Voice 5: good afternoon chair peterson i am and i'll get the meeting going for you now

[0:00:05] Voice 8: great thank you all right

[0:00:16] Voice 10: well good morning everyone and welcome to this regular uh

[0:00:21] Voice 10: meeting of the galliano island local trust committee um my name is tim peterson i'm elected

[0:00:28] Voice 10: on the ski island and the chair of the galliano ltc with me our local trustees ben maberly

[0:00:35] Voice 10: Lisa Gavreau and our planner Kim Stockdale and our meeting administrator online is Lisa Millard

[0:00:44] Voice 10: and I'm glad you could all join us this morning. I want to begin the meeting by acknowledging that

[0:00:53] Voice 10: we're fortunate to be able to gather on the territories of Coast Salish peoples and specifically

[0:00:58] Voice 10: specifically the Penelakut tribe, the keepers of these lands, and Walterson's Comet Memorial.

[0:01:04] Voice 10: Land and territory acknowledgements are important today because colonialism is not just a historical problem, it's ongoing and present day.

[0:01:14] Voice 10: Last month, Galliano Local Trust Committee members and staff were invited to attend a meeting of the Penelakut tribe chief and council on Penelakut Island,

[0:01:25] Voice 10: and i want to express my gratitude to chief jack and the member and the counselors for the

[0:01:30] Voice 10: invitation and i truly believe that this holds well for our mutual desire to build a stronger

[0:01:36] Voice 10: respectful relationship and increase our communication and opportunities to work

[0:01:40] Voice 10: together in the future i reflect every day on the displacement of first nations peoples from their

[0:01:47] Voice 10: homes on these islands t-shirt i'm wearing today is from the archaeological archaeological project

[0:01:53] Voice 10: that's been ongoing on Muskegee Island, where I live.

[0:01:56] Voice 10: And that project was really interesting.

[0:02:01] Voice 10: And it's been done right from the get-go

[0:02:04] Voice 10: in cooperation with First Nations members

[0:02:07] Voice 10: from a couple of different groups

[0:02:13] Voice 10: and nations in the area.

[0:02:15] Voice 10: And from that Western science-based approach,

[0:02:22] Voice 10: approach. It's very clear that First Nations had thriving communities and long histories

[0:02:32] Voice 10: on the islands well before the arrival of my colonial settler ancestors. And of course,

[0:02:44] Voice 10: I was one of those kids that grew up on an island with the common myth that, well, they

[0:02:50] Voice 10: never really lived here you know they might have come and they might have fished or hunted and

[0:02:55] Voice 10: stuff and the archaeological record absolutely disproves that nobody puts nobody puts that kind

[0:03:03] Voice 10: of time and effort into infrastructure nobody has nobody leaves that much evidence of uh

[0:03:10] Voice 10: you know part-time visitation type habitation those those there were the communities there was

[0:03:18] Voice 10: at least three large distinct communities on that island and I think the growing awareness I think

[0:03:28] Voice 10: helps give people perspective certainly uh certainly different than the stories I grew up

[0:03:34] Voice 10: hearing um at any rate I think this type of coming together is uh in the words of one of my

[0:03:42] Voice 10: my mentors is coming together with a good heart and a good mind and I think it's foundational to

[0:03:48] Voice 10: the work of reconciliation that's before us just take a moment appreciate that and appreciate our

[0:03:58] Voice 10: our ken and i apologize i've forgotten your name connor for for coming and and coming to

[0:04:06] Voice 10: our meetings and you know you're taking time out of the rest of your life speaker i really

[0:04:09] Voice 10: appreciate it um so with that uh we do have an agenda before us and i'll look to local

[0:04:19] Voice 10: for trustees to see if there's anything to add today no additions no

[0:04:22] Voice 10: additions so i will take

[0:04:24] Voice 10: it by general consent then we will adopt the agenda as presented and uh we'll look to trustees

[0:04:32] Voice 10: for trustee reports who'd like to go first today all right uh

[0:04:37] Voice 6: since our last meeting has done quite

[0:04:39] Voice 6: a bit so i'm just gonna briefly go over some highlights from uh the last little bit for me

[0:04:45] Voice 6: I attended an accessibility committee meeting, which is a new committee formed at the Islands Trust.

[0:04:51] Voice 6: The committee was formed in response to the Accessibility Versus Columbia Act,

[0:04:56] Voice 6: which requires local governments to develop an action plan to

[0:05:01] Voice 11: remove barriers for people with disabilities.

[0:05:04] Voice 11: Our role is to help the Islands Trust Council create this plan,

[0:05:09] Voice 11: making sure accessibility is considered for staff, for trustees, and for the public.

[0:05:16] Voice 11: We're looking at where gaps are and how to remove barriers and how to prevent new ones.

[0:05:23] Voice 11: The plan will be reviewed every three years with input from the public.

[0:05:30] Voice 6: At this last meeting, we looked over accessibility action plans for Bowen Island,

[0:05:35] Voice 6: the District of Saanich, Duncan and Victoria to see what we can learn from them.

[0:05:41] Voice 6: Once we have that plan in place, we'll make a public document and we're looking for your input.

[0:05:49] Voice 6: I attended a workshop called Leaving a Legacy.

[0:05:53] Voice 6: It was hosted by the Centre for Civic Governance and it was led by the Feminist Campaign School.

[0:06:01] Voice 6: And it was a discussion about the lasting impact of a local government has on the systems

[0:06:09] Voice 6: that kind of determine how who gets to lead those systems, right?

[0:06:14] Voice 6: We talked about things like benefits for elected officials, ensuring that people with disabilities

[0:06:21] Voice 6: get to participate in public meetings, the creation of an integrity commissioner to improve

[0:06:28] Voice 6: the role of accountability and local organizations or local government organizations. Participants

[0:06:35] Voice 6: shared their own experiences about what makes public service harder for them and what changes

[0:06:43] Voice 6: could help open the door for more people. One of the big takeaways for me was that you shouldn't

[0:06:51] Voice 6: have to have tough thick skin to serve your community. Instead we should be working to

[0:06:57] Voice 6: great assistance, support, and empower future leaders so that anyone, not just those with

[0:07:03] Voice 6: privilege, can succeed. We're encouraged to think of ourselves as good ancestors and

[0:07:10] Voice 6: losing this legacy. And the discussion around this ties into my work with the

[0:07:17] Voice 6: Governance Committee, which we made recommendations to the State Trust Council to review the

[0:07:22] Voice 6: Kodakana.

[0:07:28] Voice 11: And January 21st, Animal Trust Conservancy meeting. I'm happy to share that I was elected

[0:07:35] Voice 11: chair of the Animal Trust Conservancy. It is such a wonderful team. And I'm also very

[0:07:44] Voice 11: happy to share the fact that the Ministerial appointee, Trustee Timothy, is vice chair.

[0:07:53] Voice 11: over the last month i've been having a lot of conversations in the in the community with

[0:07:59] Voice 11: different members um also we meet with trustees from other islands talk about

[0:08:03] Voice 11: um similar issues that we're all facing on housing um what's happening trying to keep my head

[0:08:11] Voice 11: um keep myself into

[0:08:13] Voice 6: doing a little what's happening out there

[0:08:14] Voice 6: uh my trustee hours are mondays from 9 to 11 you can always message me if that doesn't work for

[0:08:20] Voice 6: again we can meet chat anytime and also at the end of february we have

[0:08:27] Voice 11: our reconciliation learning

[0:08:28] Voice 11: group meeting we have another meeting at february 24th um look forward to those conversations it's

[0:08:35] Voice 11: a great opportunity for the trustees to get together and learn and uh kind of

[0:08:40] Voice 9: like polish

[0:08:41] Voice 9: our lens on how we view our job now and in the future thank

[0:08:46] Voice 10: you trustee neighborly yeah thanks

[0:08:49] Voice 10: So just a couple of things. I got a call a couple hours ago from Stephen Henderson, the CRD, just to provide an update on when the housing project was going to start.

[0:09:02] Voice 10: And I'm sure Paul's going to talk about it when he talks, but just to let everybody know it's going to be started shortly.

[0:09:09] Voice 10: Their contracts have been received for the land clearing.

[0:09:13] Voice 10: Secondly, we had a meeting, as Tim was talking about, on Penelope Island with Chief of Council and it was a really interesting exercise and I think it's sort of a prelude to what should be taking place with local IPCs and with the local nations about having regular meetings to go over.

[0:09:38] Voice 10: I mean, there's always stuff that we can go over with the local nations and yeah, it was

[0:09:46] Voice 10: good.

[0:09:46] Voice 10: It's always interesting to underrate those things, so I'm looking forward to our local

[0:09:54] Voice 10: trust committee being able to do this on a regular basis.

[0:09:57] Voice 10: And certainly, I'm not sure if anybody knows here, but I certainly can and Lisa knows,

[0:10:03] Voice 10: the Chair of Trust Council has stepped down.

[0:10:06] Voice 10: And so in March, there's going to be elections for a new chair, and depending on whether

[0:10:12] Voice 10: that chair comes out of the executive, there'll be elections for a new executive member as

[0:10:18] Voice 10: well.

[0:10:20] Voice 10: This could change chairs that will trust committees too, and I just want to say, you know, however

[0:10:29] Voice 10: that turns out, it's been a pleasure to have Tim sitting at the head of our table and hopefully

[0:10:35] Voice 10: and hopefully that continues.

[0:10:37] Voice 10: Yeah.

[0:10:39] Voice 10: Well, thank you, I appreciate that.

[0:10:41] Voice 10: For my chair's report, I was gonna say yes,

[0:10:45] Voice 10: there was a news release about Chair Locke

[0:10:48] Voice 10: and his planning to resign on March 11th.

[0:10:51] Voice 10: And indeed, depending on who steps up to take that role,

[0:10:59] Voice 10: there may be an election for a new vice chair

[0:11:03] Voice 10: and whoever is the new chair of trust council

[0:11:06] Voice 10: does have the power and the opportunity

[0:11:09] Voice 10: to reassign the chairs for the local trust committee.

[0:11:14] Voice 10: So at this point, it's lots of big question marks,

[0:11:18] Voice 10: no answers, but certainly there will be some changes

[0:11:22] Voice 10: and we don't know exactly yet how that will all pan out

[0:11:27] Voice 10: in terms of this local trust committee.

[0:11:29] Voice 10: I've definitely enjoyed being here

[0:11:32] Voice 10: and working with you all as colleagues and getting to know the community.

[0:11:36] Voice 10: So I'm not eager to change that either, but who knows how that will go, right?

[0:11:46] Voice 10: Yeah, so in other islands trust business,

[0:11:52] Voice 10: the CAO Performance Evaluation Committee continues to meet

[0:11:56] Voice 10: as the new CAO gets close to the three-month mark

[0:12:03] Voice 10: and we have some targets for this early period

[0:12:08] Voice 10: as well as targets out to six months.

[0:12:11] Voice 10: I believe there's a six-month sort of trial period with the new CAO.

[0:12:17] Voice 10: My impression is that things are going well.

[0:12:21] Voice 10: I haven't heard anything but good.

[0:12:26] Voice 10: so far and uh of course i haven't heard from everything everyone so i could easily be missing

[0:12:31] Voice 10: something there but i i think things are going well and i think uh having a new uh new uh voice

[0:12:37] Voice 10: in that chair uh is is a positive thing for the organization broadly um i've been attending

[0:12:44] Voice 10: financial planning committee meetings um and we have uh another one next week which will be

[0:12:50] Voice 10: the final financial planning committee meeting in preparation for the march trust council

[0:12:55] Voice 10: Council, budget deliberations. Governance Committee met in January, and the committee

[0:13:04] Voice 10: is sending a request for decision regarding the recommendations from the 2022 Governance

[0:13:09] Voice 10: Report to Trust Council's Committee of the Whole for review and discussion. So actually

[0:13:15] Voice 10: be the first chance for the body to discuss the recommendations in the report in a sort

[0:13:21] Voice 10: of holistic way and determine which of those recommendations to prioritize for future work

[0:13:27] Voice 10: there is some work has been done on some of them the existence of the governance committee is

[0:13:32] Voice 10: one of those recommendations that has been actioned um still lots of work to do at

[0:13:39] Voice 10: trust council and um uh trustee gavro mentioned uh the standards of conduct review which will

[0:13:48] Voice 10: be coming up later this spring um committee of the holes met uh uh i guess two two and a bit

[0:13:57] Voice 10: time since our last ltc meeting um that work has been focused on reviewing the draft policy

[0:14:04] Voice 10: statement um i feel like there's progress being made some people like it be faster

[0:14:12] Voice 10: uh everyone wants it to be good and uh and as that work continues i think one of the

[0:14:20] Voice 10: One of the important things for me is to remind not only the trustees, but everyone that the

[0:14:28] Voice 10: policy statement, that overarching document is, it's intended to be a living document

[0:14:35] Voice 10: and much as we want to get it right, it's also intended to be reviewed on a regular

[0:14:41] Voice 10: basis.

[0:14:42] Voice 10: It's intended to be iterative so that when there's new legislation out of the province,

[0:14:48] Voice 10: when there's opportunity to work better with First Nations

[0:14:54] Voice 10: and a number of other possibilities,

[0:14:58] Voice 10: that that document is intended to be able to be reviewed

[0:15:02] Voice 10: and updated as situations change.

[0:15:05] Voice 10: So while I am absolutely supportive of us doing as good a job as we can on it,

[0:15:12] Voice 10: also it's not meant to be set in stone.

[0:15:14] Voice 10: So I've been trying to keep that message alive

[0:15:19] Voice 10: lives that we don't get too caught up in um spending too long over individual words perhaps

[0:15:27] Voice 10: which some of us have a tendency to do at times and then finally uh trust programs committee uh

[0:15:34] Voice 10: is going to meet tomorrow and uh uh has been asked to significantly consider significantly

[0:15:40] Voice 10: reducing the proposed budget for the stewardship education program for the 2025-26 fiscal year

[0:15:48] Voice 10: And so with that, moving along on our agenda, next up we have a space for the Electoral

[0:15:58] Voice 10: Area Director's Report, and I welcome Director Paul Bright.

[0:16:05] What I think we should do is endorse Jim as the new chair of the House of Commons, because

[0:16:12] Because you have to say, I'm

[0:16:15] Voice 10: going to stay here.

[0:16:21] Voice 10: So I haven't been here for 18 months, so I've received some criticism for that.

[0:16:27] Voice 10: And I certainly won't tell you about all the committee meetings I've been to because it's legion.

[0:16:32] Voice 2: um what i can say is that i've been focusing on

[0:16:36] Voice 2: and

[0:16:37] Voice 10: the recipient of most of that effort is due to galliano's phenomenal work on what was

[0:16:45] Voice 10: galliano green is now forest homes over the past i don't know almost 15 years and so what i'm doing

[0:16:54] Voice 10: my capacity is i'm delivering as much in the way of funding as i possibly can get that going so

[0:17:01] Voice 10: of all of the funds that the CRD electoral areas got from the growing community,

[0:17:10] Voice 10: a billion dollars of the funds, and Galliano Green Forest Homes got half of it,

[0:17:19] Voice 10: basically $2.75 million.

[0:17:22] Voice 10: And in terms of community works funds, which are electoral areas,

[0:17:36] Voice 10: So we are, I am committed to housing on the island, but this housing is really expensive.

[0:17:44] Voice 10: This is, you know, the standard government issue, tick all the boxes, stop, and it's

[0:17:50] Voice 10: going to provide great housing, but

[0:17:52] Voice 2: we have huge issues and containment issues on the

[0:17:58] Voice 2: Galliano, as well. And so we have to figure out better ways

[0:18:02] Voice 10: to do things. So I'm

[0:18:04] Voice 2: on the tiny homes on wheels. So we're

[0:18:08] looking at seeing if we can get some form of standards and

[0:18:11] Voice 10: legalization for that particular thing. We're looking at RVs and

[0:18:16] Voice 10: trailers, CRD, and to see if we can get them legalized as a

[0:18:21] Voice 10: form of residential use. We're also advocating for

[0:18:28] Voice 10: a different building to a small house,

[0:18:30] Voice 10: so something that is 5 or 6 feet

[0:18:32] Voice 10: square feet, that wouldn't be part

[0:18:34] Voice 10: of the step code

[0:18:36] Voice 10: thing, which is great

[0:18:37] Voice 10: in terms of minimizing

[0:18:39] Voice 10: the impact of homes

[0:18:42] Voice 10: on the climate, but

[0:18:43] Voice 10: the costs associated with those

[0:18:46] Voice 10: code increases

[0:18:47] Voice 10: are staggering. So

[0:18:49] Voice 10: it's a challenge to get affordable housing.

[0:18:52] Voice 10: So those are

[0:18:53] Voice 10: some of the things I'm doing, and

[0:18:56] Voice 10: some of the things that are benefiting

[0:19:02] Voice 10: I guess we're working closely with the Ministry of Transport in terms of the parking monies.

[0:19:09] Voice 10: So the Ministry of Transport removed a bunch of parking that might be a real problem for

[0:19:16] Voice 10: some of the people that don't have road access.

[0:19:23] Voice 10: so we work closely with them by that we're doing the parking and then us providing the funds to

[0:19:28] Voice 10: ministry of transport to put it back so we're doing that oh thank you for doing that for us

[0:19:36] Voice 10: because i'm supposed to say that yes we're going to start clearing um this month actually

[0:19:42] Voice 10: And so we're doing it, I believe, very carefully. I believe members of the delegate have come and looked at what we're going to do.

[0:19:52] Voice 10: We have our archaeologists, our First Nations archaeologists, so I think it's being done as responsibly as we can and as gently as we can.

[0:20:05] Voice 10: land. The other thing that's kind of a little bit nebulous, but it's really important is

[0:20:11] Voice 10: the CRD Capital Regional District is looking at a different model for how Southern Gulf

[0:20:16] Voice 10: Islands, Salt Spring and the Juan de Pico are managed. The Capital Regional District

[0:20:21] Voice 10: is actually our local government. And the Big Capital Regional District, all 440,000

[0:20:28] Voice 10: people, it represents pretty much municipality based, it's 13 municipalities, three

[0:20:33] Voice 10: electoral areas and we don't really have a voice in the electoral area of voice and you go so who

[0:20:40] Voice 10: keeps the electoral area close but our electoral areas are pretty rural and now it's rural it's

[0:20:47] Voice 10: one in a few and it's extremely rural it's huge it's got 5,000 people it's it's bigger than the

[0:20:53] Voice 10: entire capital the rest of the capital regional district and because we're part of the capital

[0:20:59] Voice 10: You do this, you look at this and they go, they got in almost a government vote.

[0:21:04] Voice 10: Hey, you're so you don't really want to operate.

[0:21:09] Voice 10: So you qualify for a few exemption basis.

[0:21:13] Voice 10: So we're now going to have a general manager of electoral areas.

[0:21:17] Voice 10: It's going to have to see the executive at the regional district.

[0:21:21] Voice 10: And so they're going to lobby for us to be heard properly.

[0:21:26] Voice 10: they're going to lobby the province, which we really haven't seen much of a kind of regional

[0:21:31] Voice 10: district, to say, hey, we are rural, we need funding, we need a rural housing stream, so

[0:21:36] Voice 10: we're going to do that, and that's going to end all the visitations, and I'll take up

[0:21:40] Voice 10: too much time, let's give it a day.

[0:21:43] Voice 10: Thank you, Director Brent.

[0:21:48] Voice 10: So next up, we have a space for a First Nations report, and I'm just going to look, see if

[0:21:54] Voice 10: Connor or Ken, if you've got anything you'd like to share with the deck.

[0:22:01] Voice 10: Thank you. Thank you for coming over to visit and with our leadership in the last month or so.

[0:22:14] Voice 10: In regards to the transfer in our last meeting after you guys come over,

[0:22:21] Voice 10: where there's going to be a letter drafted up today and going to be pretty much all the

[0:22:32] Voice 10: council can sign it for acceptance. I just thought I'd let you guys know that it's on

[0:22:39] Voice 10: here. I met with the elder or elders committee we're meeting this morning. I let them know

[0:22:47] Voice 10: O'Connor and I were coming over each year and they wanted me to express the gratitude for

[0:22:56] Voice 10: the donors for thinking of us for you know gaining some of our territory back

[0:23:04] Voice 10: and we would be thankful and grateful they wanted to thank everybody here they wanted me to send

[0:23:13] Voice 10: the message. Opening up the communication lines and we started the ball rolling, you guys come

[0:23:25] Voice 10: over and talking with numerous people that live out here and I think that's from day one we talked

[0:23:33] Voice 10: about you know starting that communication line that should have started a long time where we can

[0:23:41] Voice 10: work together, listen, help each other, you know, any issues or anything that comes up, feel free to call us.

[0:23:51] Voice 10: I'm a messenger when I'm by myself, but the leadership table is always interested in hearing what's coming up.

[0:23:59] Voice 10: I'm not the decision maker by myself, but I can make my recommendations and definitely have their input.

[0:24:38] I

[0:24:40] Voice 10: just want to take a moment to thank you Ken, you've been at almost every single one

[0:24:45] Voice 10: of our meetings since the beginning of the term and uh and i think that being here in

[0:24:52] Voice 10: however you might describe your role but has been really instrumental in

[0:24:57] Voice 10: not only letting us know what's what's on the minds of your of your council and elders and

[0:25:03] Voice 10: people but also helping to build this communication that's starting to happen in a really positive way

[0:25:09] Voice 10: So, thank you.

[0:25:11] Voice 10: Yep, feel free to call or text.

[0:25:13] Voice 10: I think you guys all have my cell number.

[0:25:15] Voice 10: Just send me a text if anything comes up.

[0:25:18] Voice 10: Great going.

[0:25:22] Voice 10: Okay, so next up we have a town hall session.

[0:25:27] Voice 10: This is your opportunity to address the local trust committee with your questions or comments.

[0:25:32] Voice 10: and just remind everyone that ideally we'll look to questions and comments on items on today's

[0:25:44] Voice 10: agenda secondarily to items within the jurisdiction of the local trust committee

[0:25:51] Voice 10: and so depending on how many hands I see up I may pull out a timer but I see some hands going up

[0:25:59] Voice 10: And I'm going to start today. I'm going to start at this end in the second row there.

[0:26:03] Voice 10: Please go ahead.

[0:26:04] Voice 12: Hi, I'm Sarah Bellamy and I was informed by this trust and by some plans that I am not allowed to be on the agenda for today.

[0:26:16] Voice 12: And here is my letter. So I am speaking here at this one meeting because I have some college concerns I'd like to speak to.

[0:26:25] Voice 12: um and um unfortunately because of so uh i do have a right to be heard um

[0:26:38] Voice 12: and i feel that i have a right to be heard without paying

[0:26:41] Voice 12: the 1976 dollars to apply for a land use variance um uh as many people on the island i'm a single

[0:26:53] Voice 12: parent on pension. I have two goats and some chickens. Someone made a complaint against my

[0:27:01] Voice 12: goats back in the summer. They went so far as to make a complaint about animal cruelty

[0:27:08] Voice 12: when I was off island with my son having emergency surgery. I live on an island. I'm home a lot. I

[0:27:22] Voice 12: The problem is that my property is only 4 and 6 meters wide, and bylaw number 127 states

[0:27:33] Voice 12: that there must be 30 meters clearance from each property line on either side.

[0:27:39] Voice 12: Now, all of my animals and their housing are more than 30 meters from my neighbor, but

[0:27:46] Voice 12: I encroach on Fisherway Park by approximately 15 meters.

[0:27:52] Voice 12: so i'm here today to ask for a um for a um a suspension in bylaw enforcement about that bylaw

[0:28:07] Voice 12: and again so i just i don't really have two thousand dollars to go through the land use

[0:28:14] Voice 12: variance planning process and i am quite shocked that that is what the fee is um because i'm quite

[0:28:21] Voice 12: sure that there are many people like me on the island who cannot afford them. So if we get shut

[0:28:26] Voice 12: out of speaking at a trust meeting, and my letters were submitted well within the deadline to be on

[0:28:32] Voice 12: the agenda, by the way, I know the rules. If we get shut out, then we lose our voice. So I'm

[0:28:38] Voice 12: trying to speak my voice. I'm almost done. I know I've given up things to say. I'm just going to

[0:28:44] Voice 12: make four quick points. So like many others, I subsist on limited attention, and food costs are

[0:28:51] Voice 12: significant challenge. Being able to eat healthy eggs from my chickens and to drink milk from my

[0:28:58] Voice 12: goats is part of my food security and I trade my eggs like I traded two dozen eggs this morning

[0:29:05] Voice 12: for a loaf of bread and food stones for my neighbors. My goats are helpful members of the

[0:29:12] Voice 12: community. They eat broom, blackberry, other invasive plants. They help my neighbors and myself

[0:29:22] Voice 12: provide a green solution to reducing the spread of invasive plants. My goats are well socialized.

[0:29:30] Voice 12: They were invited the past two years to the Canada Day jamboree celebration and many kids and people

[0:29:38] Voice 12: loved him up and it helped break the boundaries the concerns about feral goats and to see what

[0:29:45] Voice 12: a trained goat and pain situation looks like um help the kids learn about what animal husbandry

[0:29:51] Voice 12: means and about where their food comes um and they were also invited to the uh on the dc day

[0:30:01] Voice 12: celebration by the line um and unfortunately i wasn't able to attend because that's what my son

[0:30:06] Voice 12: looks like and has to have emergency surgery in victoria which is the time when the complaint

[0:30:11] Voice 12: went through i'd just like to say that i always have pet sitters i have a set of pet sitters

[0:30:18] Voice 12: for my goats and my chickens they come two or three times a day minimum on property and even

[0:30:24] Voice 12: And if I'm just a Victoria for the toddler, okay, I always have someone come. So, however, they were nervous.

[0:30:33] Voice 12: There was a noise, which I appreciate and I have apologize for visit my neighbor and I have since installed privacy fencing and noise attenuation barrier buffing offering and David Worthington has been at this this morning taking photographs.

[0:30:50] Voice 12: Lastly, I just said to say

[0:30:53] Voice 12: that i also donate manure and hay to the community school garden so they help with the production

[0:31:00] Voice 12: that way and they do not escape they have double fencing plus an electric wire fence

[0:31:08] Voice 12: does anybody have any questions i believe i'm not my four minute mark

[0:31:12] Voice 10: um i'm actually just gonna turn to the planner for a moment and um just ask you to outline um

[0:31:18] Voice 10: what the

[0:31:18] Voice 4: potential

[0:31:20] Voice 10: um ways to deal this might be just for clarity

[0:31:25] Voice 12: um i just i am very well

[0:31:28] Voice 12: aware so you know i have educated myself about the land experience application and i i have

[0:31:36] Voice 12: i know how to do it but there's a fee yeah

[0:31:39] Voice 10: no i understand it but that's uh that that's not the

[0:31:42] Voice 10: only potential outcome of this so i'm just gonna ask

[0:31:44] Voice 11: the planner to

[0:31:45] Voice 10: maybe lay out some of the

[0:31:46] Voice 10: potential so your

[0:31:48] Voice 11: request was for the ltc to grab you the variants at this meeting and you've been

[0:31:53] Voice 11: back and forth to go over the process so yes i understand that you're aware of the variance

[0:31:57] Voice 11: process the reason why um it wasn't on today's agenda is because there is an open bylaw

[0:32:03] Voice 11: enforcement file and the bylaw enforcement officer is working with you to look at options for

[0:32:10] Voice 11: compliance or potentially closing it so that's why it's not brought to the public forum it's been a

[0:32:16] Voice 11: discussion between staff and yourself and the ltc did receive your letter i

[0:32:20] Voice 12: do understand it's just

[0:32:21] Voice 12: that the next trust meeting comes after the deadline by which i've been given to have my

[0:32:28] Voice 12: animals rehoused yeah

[0:32:30] Voice 11: and the staff will work together on that right if final enforcement

[0:32:34] Voice 11: understands that you are applying for a variance then that deadline would be yeah because you're

[0:32:43] Voice 12: working

[0:32:44] Voice 11: towards compliance so

[0:32:45] Voice 12: as a poor person i'll just be playing here as a poor person and

[0:32:49] Voice 12: if they understand that i cannot afford to apply for the variance where does that leave me

[0:32:57] Voice 10: there is the option and when you apply for grants to ask the press committee to wait for the rooms

[0:33:03] Voice 11: that

[0:33:04] Voice 12: is certainly not

[0:33:05] Voice 11: in the documents online just so you know i don't think no there wouldn't

[0:33:09] Voice 11: be an option to wait a fee there's an executive committee and yeah

[0:33:14] Voice 10: we could request executive

[0:33:15] Voice 10: committee but

[0:33:16] Voice 11: there's a certain criteria it has to be for a non-profit and so forth but

[0:33:21] Voice 11: staff planning staff are working with bylaw enforcement to look at your case specifically

[0:33:27] Voice 11: to try to find a solution yeah okay i

[0:33:32] Voice 6: don't want to speak

[0:33:33] Voice 11: too openly because it is an open

[0:33:34] Voice 11: to be respectful to yourself. And yeah,

[0:33:38] Voice 12: just the actual complaint. It should have been a noise

[0:33:44] Voice 12: complaint. That was a concern, a noise complaint or animal neglect complaint. But a neighbor and

[0:33:51] Voice 12: another person who is not anywhere close to my property, deliberately chose to use bylaw number

[0:33:58] Voice 12: 27. Because it forces anyone on a property to not be able to have animals. And I just want to say

[0:34:04] Voice 12: that about six dollars then there are two people with horses same kind of lots two people with

[0:34:09] Voice 12: horses there was a mule there are at least seven families of chickens so

[0:34:14] Voice 10: i would just want to add

[0:34:15] Voice 10: um before we move on that um the planner was trying to allude to but there there are various

[0:34:23] Voice 10: ways that um achieving compliance can happen um there are potential opportunities for the

[0:34:33] Voice 10: for the file to be closed um so just so that you're aware of that and i hear i think we hear

[0:34:39] Voice 10: you loud and clear that the the cost of the variances is not within your means at this

[0:34:44] Voice 10: point but that's just to make clear that that's not the only potential option and so i just

[0:34:49] Voice 10: encourage you to keep in touch with staff and it sounds like staff and bylaw enforcement are already

[0:34:55] Voice 10: um in in conversation so probably

[0:34:57] Voice 12: the only official communications i have received are

[0:35:00] Voice 12: are that paperwork of how to do the variance.

[0:35:03] Voice 12: I have not had conversations.

[0:35:05] Voice 8: No, fair enough.

[0:35:09] Voice 8: OK, Carmina, I think you're next.

[0:35:12] Voice 13: I would like to talk about one issue

[0:35:15] Voice 13: which is the fall grant application from Radiana White.

[0:35:23] Voice 13: I sent a letter last week to the trustees and planner.

[0:35:28] Voice 13: because they don't know about this, but I want people to know, the issues about health.

[0:35:35] Voice 13: In the staff reports, the reports, the planners present impacts, possible impacts,

[0:35:50] Voice 13: In this impact, there is nothing about the negative impact of health from alcohol consumption.

[0:36:01] Voice 13: And I think it's a very important issue.

[0:36:06] Voice 13: And it has become more and more important lately, when more information has come about.

[0:36:17] Voice 13: And I don't know if people know that the trustees are different, like in the past,

[0:36:24] Voice 13: and responsibility for the health of the residents is done in the OCP, the production and the principal.

[0:36:35] Voice 13: They have to look not only about how much money this will bring to the business,

[0:36:40] Voice 13: but also about the health of the residents and the visitor portions.

[0:36:52] Voice 13: I can tell you, if you go to the website and put impacts of alcohol consumption,

[0:37:00] Voice 13: you will find from the government of Canada, from many institutions, the problem of alcohol.

[0:37:07] Voice 13: In the kind of parallel with tobacco, that now is practically no more, tobacco smoking,

[0:37:19] Voice 13: like alcohol, has been considered a pleasure other thing, a normal social

[0:37:24] Voice 13: thing, until

[0:37:27] Voice 13: in the case of tobacco, it was so clear the damage to people that the government reacted

[0:37:37] Voice 13: reacted, no, forgiven, because this is not about this million dollars, but this corruption.

[0:37:44] Voice 13: And it has worked.

[0:37:45] Voice 13: It has saved a lot of lives.

[0:37:48] Voice 13: I agree.

[0:37:51] Voice 13: And my feeling is that we are going in the same way with alcohol.

[0:37:56] Voice 13: Slowly.

[0:37:58] Voice 13: Less denial about the damage.

[0:38:01] Voice 13: So I have here for the trustees, I copied from the National Center of Biothermical Information.

[0:38:13] Voice 13: And it's a comprehensive systematic review of cancer risk based on alcohol consumption.

[0:38:20] Voice 13: I will start with the conclusion.

[0:38:23] Voice 13: Our findings highlight that cancer risk extends beyond heavy alcohol consumption

[0:38:29] Voice 13: consumption to include live alcohol consumption afterwards.

[0:38:36] Voice 13: This finding suggests that there is no safe level of alcohol consumption associated with

[0:38:44] Voice 13: cancer disease.

[0:38:46] Voice 13: Our results underscore the importance of public health interventions addressing alcohol consumption

[0:38:54] Voice 13: to mitigate cancer disease.

[0:38:57] Voice 13: Now, by approving this application that has many proposals, by approving this one, the local grass committee is encouraging consumption of alcohol.

[0:39:16] Voice 13: Because it's another place where people can go and buy alcohol burgers and taste it here.

[0:39:30] Voice 13: So that's what Galeano needs in that place.

[0:39:36] Voice 13: When we know now the health risk, so serious health risk with alcohol consumption.

[0:39:45] Voice 13: That's what you have to think about.

[0:39:47] Voice 13: It was an article about a medical health officer, a doctor, in the area of Tofino,

[0:40:02] Voice 13: who had a serious problem of alcoholism, of fetalization.

[0:40:10] Voice 13: And there she said to the council, you have the power.

[0:40:15] Voice 13: you have the power to lower consumption by controlling business. So my idea

[0:40:23] Voice 13: is that this trans-council has the power because you have land use control and this is a land use.

[0:40:36] Voice 13: I know people like to drink and it's a pleasure. It was the same with tobacco.

[0:40:43] Voice 13: It's not about provocation, it's a kind of discouragement instead of encouragement.

[0:40:53] Voice 13: And let's see if I have anything else I have to say to you.

[0:40:59] Voice 13: Yes, in the letters, in favor of the cider advisory, there are two reasons, logical reasons.

[0:41:09] Voice 13: One is that it will attract more tourists and that means money for them.

[0:41:13] Voice 13: In this case, the medical health officer, she presented that in reality, it's so costly, health care for alcohol, criminal justice, that when the revenue for BC was $2 billion, the expense was $2,800,000.

[0:41:39] Voice 13: And it says that for every dollar, we pay 37 in fact.

[0:41:48] Voice 13: So economically, it's becoming difficult to repay.

[0:41:52] Voice 13: The second thing another person wrote is about the importance of encouraging the production of local food and beverage.

[0:42:07] Voice 13: And I agree with that.

[0:42:09] Voice 13: But no alcoholic beverage.

[0:42:12] Voice 13: That's the difference. You call it the current kind of food, you call it current food.

[0:42:19] Voice 13: Produce that kind of food.

[0:42:21] Voice 13: I just, what I want to say is that I love the draft committee.

[0:42:27] Voice 13: We asked to obtain information about alcohol consumption and negative consequences of diet and health.

[0:42:41] Voice 13: I have two reports, but they were for 2019, where I show that it's a higher consumption

[0:42:52] Voice 13: on island heads and the Gulf Islands than in the West Coast.

[0:42:58] Voice 13: And I think you could obtain that, and if you could contact a medical health officer

[0:43:08] Voice 13: for this area, like this lady, to present it to the Coquina Open World.

[0:43:13] Voice 13: And also, we have the Galliano-Feldt clip,

[0:43:16] Voice 4: which

[0:43:18] Voice 13: will give you an idea of the degree of medical-related problems on alcohol consumption.

[0:43:28] Voice 13: That's what I wanted to present, and thank you very much for this session.

[0:43:33] Voice 10: Okay, and Jane, I believe I saw your hand up.

[0:43:37] Voice 10: Right.

[0:43:38] Voice 11: I just wanted to let people know, if you aren't aware, that the appeal by the four-slot owners regarding the four-slots was the case against the Gallaudet and the local health committee was,

[0:43:57] Voice 9: the bylaws were upheld on appeal.

[0:44:02] Voice 9: Again, that's what I wanted to say.

[0:44:04] Voice 9: So

[0:44:04] Voice 11: this last case began under the last term in 2020,

[0:44:12] Voice 11: and it was just concluded at the end of January,

[0:44:16] Voice 11: which provides strength to our local trust community and our local bylaws.

[0:44:22] Voice 11: And I just wanted to remind people, because some people are not aware

[0:44:26] Voice 11: that in 1991, when Macmillan Bodell owned over half of the island and put those properties

[0:44:35] Voice 11: up for sale, they did send a letter to every prospective buyer, informing them that they

[0:44:42] Voice 11: had to sign a disclosure statement, and that disclosure statement said, attached to this

[0:44:49] Voice 11: letter are copies of three proposed amendments to the bylaws of Galangal Island. If these

[0:44:54] Voice 11: amendments are passed by island's trust which they were the effect will be to completely eliminate

[0:45:00] Voice 11: the present life to build one single family residence on each forest zone lot on galliano

[0:45:05] Voice 11: so just so you know that that's where we were in 1991 and the bylaws were again upheld in 2025.

[0:45:18] Voice 10: thank you very much

[0:45:20] Voice 10: uh i am concerned about the lack of communications from the local trust committee local trustees

[0:45:36] Voice 10: and perhaps even staff it's been two months since we have been able to get together for a trust

[0:45:44] Voice 10: committee meeting and in that time there have been a number of significant developments

[0:45:51] Voice 10: taking place and advancing in a communications factory and these particular incidents or issues

[0:46:00] Voice 10: are very important to the community while i appreciate some of the partial updates that

[0:46:07] Voice 10: have been given uh at the meeting today and in the meeting packet those updates are partial

[0:46:15] Voice 10: and much much too late they are not timely enough to encourage uh

[0:46:24] Voice 10: within the community uh with a view to helping the local trust committee come to

[0:46:32] Voice 10: some decisions and implementation measures one of the ones though that initially caught

[0:46:38] Voice 10: got my attention were the bylaws 283 and 284.

[0:46:46] Voice 10: They went to the executive committee

[0:46:50] Voice 10: and got rather a bumpy ride into meetings

[0:46:55] Voice 10: of the executive committee.

[0:46:57] Voice 10: They

[0:46:57] Voice 2: were eventually endorsed by the executive committee.

[0:47:00] Voice 10: And

[0:47:01] Voice 2: then I believe

[0:47:02] Voice 10: sent off to what I regard

[0:47:04] Voice 10: as a black hole of bureaucracy,

[0:47:07] Voice 10: sent to the minister's office, I would have told that somebody from one of the two trustees

[0:47:15] Voice 10: would have kept the island community aware of what was happening to those particular bylaws

[0:47:23] Voice 10: and perhaps even why they were sent onwards or why they were endorsed.

[0:47:29] Voice 10: There was, I gather, a vigorous debate at the executive committee.

[0:47:33] Voice 10: I saw some notes from one meeting, but was not able to attend the second meeting.

[0:47:40] Voice 10: And I could not even gain access to the electronic records of the meeting for at least a week afterwards.

[0:47:48] Voice 10: works. So something, you know, I think

[0:47:52] Voice 10: the community, as there was a spirited

[0:47:56] Voice 10: debate before you on the

[0:48:02] Voice 10: very welcome step taken by the committee on

[0:48:06] Voice 10: towards reconciliation through Bylaw 283,

[0:48:11] Voice 10: I would have hoped that there would have been a report back to

[0:48:14] Voice 10: the community. There was virtually nothing there. Indeed,

[0:48:18] Voice 10: Indeed, even the meeting package notes that bylaw 283 has been sent on to the minister's

[0:48:24] Voice 10: office, but what happened to 284?

[0:48:28] Voice 10: Did it have to go onwards?

[0:48:30] Voice 10: Has it just fallen into another black hole?

[0:48:35] Voice 10: Some things, you've got to close the loop on some of the actions that you have taken,

[0:48:41] Voice 10: or at least try to keep the community informed.

[0:48:43] Voice 10: for the second major issue that uh or not major issue but the second important thing that has

[0:48:51] Voice 10: come about i appreciated the updates today and the uh notes that were put in the active page

[0:49:01] Voice 10: uh you know the uh trustee report uh of the penelope meeting but i think that this meeting

[0:49:11] Voice 10: was important enough that there should have been a record of the meeting or a report on the meeting

[0:49:21] Voice 10: that the trust committee committee could then adopt and append to the minutes of trust committee

[0:49:30] Voice 10: meetings right now the reports are buried in a rezoning application and apparently there has

[0:49:40] Voice 10: been a significant development from what ken was saying of advancing again another you know

[0:49:48] Voice 10: i'll take my hats off to the ltc for you know choosing this particular instrument of a way of

[0:49:57] Voice 10: reconciliation and trying to achieve some of the land back aspirations of first nations but i think

[0:50:04] Voice 10: it's important enough for the community to hear and see what's going on so they can recognize it

[0:50:11] Voice 10: and support the ltc in its efforts moving forward again another big hole in the communications back

[0:50:22] Voice 10: to the community a third development is contained within the uh meeting information package and

[0:50:33] Voice 10: and that's on the Crystal Mountain rezoning application.

[0:50:37] Voice 10: And there are two critical issues that leap out at me

[0:50:40] Voice 10: that I think deserve more information

[0:50:45] Voice 10: coming into the community

[0:50:46] Voice 10: so the community can discuss it and get behind it.

[0:50:52] Voice 10: The first one is the issue of community benefits.

[0:50:56] Voice 10: The staff report states that the LTC

[0:50:59] Voice 10: D.C. has relatively wide discretion in determining what is a community benefit.

[0:51:10] Voice 10: Is that the case?

[0:51:13] Voice 10: There may be limitations on community benefits as described in legislation,

[0:51:19] Voice 10: such as the Municipalities Act.

[0:51:23] Voice 10: But is there anything in our OCP that talks about a community benefit?

[0:51:28] Voice 10: What are the guardrails for a community benefit?

[0:51:33] Voice 10: Can an LTC just decide willy-nilly that this is a community benefit?

[0:51:38] Voice 10: What's happening on other islands and other jurisdictions?

[0:51:44] Voice 10: Are there any particular guardrails?

[0:51:48] Voice 10: I think that as community benefits could be and have been a contentious issue

[0:51:54] Voice 10: on many rezoning applications over the past and moving into the future,

[0:51:59] Voice 10: Would it not be better to have the community behind the LTC if they decide that something

[0:52:07] Voice 10: is going to be considered as a community benefit? Please involve the community as early as possible

[0:52:15] Voice 10: in looking at what you're going to be doing in terms of a community benefit. In addition,

[0:52:24] Voice 10: Within the Crystal Mountain application, there was a move, and it's somewhat confusing to me as to what steps you're taking in this, to look at the adoption of tribal landfills as a, as I regard them, maybe mistakenly, as a potential replacement for covenants to enable the trust to carry out its mandate.

[0:52:55] Voice 10: reserve and protect. On one hand, the LTC or staff seems to have told Crystal Mountain

[0:53:03] Voice 10: work with the Penelope to see if their tribal land code can be adopted as a adopted as part

[0:53:16] Voice 10: of the rezoning application. Then on the

[0:53:20] Voice 10: other hand, staff has been asked to find out whether

[0:53:23] Voice 10: or not a tribal land code is applicable and appropriate what are you doing first and now the

[0:53:32] Voice 10: uh as i read the notes uh in the package today you won't have staff report for another two months

[0:53:42] Voice 10: on the applicability of a tribal plan code being applied here on galiana ken has said that there

[0:53:51] Voice 10: There has been some movement from the Penelope on that side.

[0:53:54] Voice 10: But again, this is happening within an information vacuum.

[0:53:59] Voice 10: Two months have transpired since that rezoning application was last discussed.

[0:54:06] Voice 10: Nothing has come back to the community on two very important issues that will govern land rezoning well into the future.

[0:54:17] Voice 10: I would ask that the local trust committee follow the recommendations, if you will, of the staff to engage the community through giving the APC an assignment to evaluate either community benefits or something to do with tribal land codes,

[0:54:43] Voice 10: or to even hold separate community information meetings on these two issues,

[0:54:51] Voice 10: apart from and separate from the very narrow confines of a rezoning application.

[0:54:59] Voice 10: These transcend just one zoning application.

[0:55:03] Voice 10: They are very important.

[0:55:04] Voice 10: If you want community support, then you have to do some work to get that community support.

[0:55:11] Voice 10: It's not going to materialize.

[0:55:14] Voice 10: So please keep the community informed and involved in the community. Thank you.

[0:55:23] Voice 10: I'll just make a brief comment.

[0:55:28] Voice 10: When the members of the local trust committee and staff were invited to the Connecticut Chief and Council meeting, that was their meeting.

[0:55:37] Voice 10: That's not a local trust committee meeting.

[0:55:39] Voice 10: meeting. So in terms of official reporting, I'm not sure if staff correct me if I'm wrong,

[0:55:48] Voice 10: but I don't, I think the kind of colloquial reporting from individual members is what's

[0:55:56] Voice 10: appropriate there. It's not our meeting. We were invitees. So that'd be my comment there. And then

[0:56:03] Voice 10: I don't know if there's any other comments from staff or trustees on the rest of it. I did see

[0:56:08] Voice 10: ken's hand back there in the back so thank you jim um just i'll direct my comments to the people

[0:56:20] Voice 10: just want to let you know uh again we appreciate the communication and trying to find the trail

[0:56:28] Voice 10: to work through to figure things out you know for for our our part we haven't had any communication

[0:56:36] Voice 10: with Islands Trust and how long is Islands Trust

[0:56:40] Voice 10: in that entity? It wasn't until recent years we started

[0:56:45] Voice 10: this communication and again the communication is where we

[0:56:50] Voice 10: learn from each other to see what works

[0:56:56] Voice 10: and to be questioned

[0:56:59] Voice 10: on a new trail we're trying to figure out

[0:57:02] Voice 10: I don't agree with that

[0:57:09] Voice 10: I just want to let you know we're here. We're here to communicate. We're here to work together.

[0:57:13] Voice 10: We're neighbors.

[0:57:16] Voice 10: Penelope's not going anywhere.

[0:57:20] Voice 10: Neither is our residents. They're neighbors.

[0:57:22] Voice 10: We

[0:57:23] Voice 9: work together to communicate.

[0:57:25] Voice 9: That's what we're doing.

[0:57:28] Voice 10: I just wanted to shed a little bit of light on it from your eyes.

[0:57:31] Voice 10: The way I see it.

[0:57:33] Voice 10: I really appreciate the school coming up with Penelope. That's the first time ever.

[0:57:39] Voice 10: There's been a couple here and there.

[0:57:41] Voice 10: parents, but not the whole people. And like I said, our elders are very grateful for that.

[0:57:48] Voice 10: And if there's anything else we can work on, all their texts and emails are here.

[0:57:56] Voice 10: I just had to share that. We appreciate it. You know, we're not trying to hide anything.

[0:58:01] Voice 10: We're just trying to figure out a way through some things, trying to make things better for all of us.

[0:58:10] Voice 10: As

[0:58:11] Voice 9: a reminder

[0:58:13] Voice 11: to the LTC, both bylaws 283 and 284 are post-public hearing, but it was

[0:58:20] Voice 11: more of a process question, so I think those comments are fair.

[0:58:23] Voice 11: In terms of why bylaw 283 is sent to the minister, it's because it's an OCP bylaw, whereas the

[0:58:30] Voice 11: land use bylaw doesn't have to be approved by the minister.

[0:58:33] Voice 11: So the LTC has to wait to get that minister support, which we agreed, before both pilots can come back for adoption.

[0:58:43] Thank you.

[0:58:47] Voice 13: A question about the commentary. When you were invited, you were invited as trustees or just as individuals?

[0:58:59] Voice 10: Well, what I was saying is it was not our meeting. We were invited to attend a chief and council meeting.

[0:59:06] Voice 10: It's not a local

[0:59:07] Voice 10: trust committee meeting

[0:59:09] Voice 13: in that case.

[0:59:11] Voice 13: I think the community well,

[0:59:13] Voice 10: I just want I just want to make it clear what I was trying to say is that it's perfectly reasonable for the individual trustees to report out if they choose.

[0:59:25] Voice 10: But the process by where an official Lpc report that's that's not applicable in this case.

[0:59:34] Voice 10: it was not an ltc meeting it was the chief and council meeting that we were invited to attend

[0:59:41] Voice 10: so it is different i i can understand that maybe the distinction doesn't make as much sense

[0:59:47] Voice 10: to someone as it does it doesn't mean that there is a distinction there taylor yes sir shouldn't

[0:59:53] Voice 10: it be mandatory for the two trustees to reflect to the community what they've been doing for example

[1:00:00] Voice 10: for that very important meeting and that's i think what we're trying to get after well and i i don't

[1:00:07] Voice 8: i don't believe it's mandatory at all but but

[1:00:09] Voice 8: that is that's different than than whether the

[1:00:12] Voice 8: community

[1:00:12] Voice 10: would like to hear from the trustees and i'm hearing that that's that's the case and

[1:00:19] Voice 10: that's certainly up to the trustees if it were a ltc meeting that we would be generating staff

[1:00:27] Voice 10: reports and that sort of thing it wasn't so that's why we don't have official reporting

[1:00:31] Voice 10: i i totally understand and i take both of your points and i think the trustees are hearing loud

[1:00:38] Voice 10: and clear that they would you would appreciate more communication from the local trustees

[1:00:44] Voice 10: that's different than mandatory though mandatory wrong word but um where they are working with that

[1:00:53] Voice 10: meeting on franulica they are working uh to inform themselves how they're going to make decisions on

[1:01:00] Voice 10: and that is where i think we should find out how that meeting went in terms of the temperatures

[1:01:09] Voice 10: and stuff like that information yeah that's what steve's talking about i i understand i'm not going

[1:01:18] Voice 10: to repeat what i've already said because there's expectation and there's there's the official

[1:01:23] Voice 10: them and then there's and then there's not right so there is there is i understand i guess the

[1:01:31] Voice 10: desire for more communications understand i have not heard from ben in months in the active bridge

[1:01:39] Voice 10: in any meaningful way and it's a bit frustrating to not know with our newspaper um but our

[1:01:50] Voice 10: counselors are they should be telling us what they're doing

[1:02:07] Voice 10: before we move on i'll just check and see if there's anyone else that wants to address the

[1:02:11] Voice 10: local trust committee can i make an option

[1:02:14] Voice 10: sure i'm going to come to you and then i'll

[1:02:16] Voice 10: go to Keck. But I would come to

[1:02:19] Voice 10: this gentleman first, Ken.

[1:02:20] Voice 10: You're going to go to him? Yeah. Okay, sure.

[1:02:22] Voice 10: My observation is that this is a sort of in-camera type of meeting with the

[1:02:28] Voice 10: Penelope or the Alliance Trust where they're gaining the information that they

[1:02:33] Voice 10: will need in order to make the decision.

[1:02:35] Voice 4: But

[1:02:36] Voice 10: this is not yet a point where they've made the decision.

[1:02:38] Voice 10: I think the decision is coming from the Penelope to the Alliance Trust,

[1:02:43] Voice 10: at which time and then the communication to the public because at this particular time

[1:02:49] Voice 10: well there's nothing that they can actually say

[1:03:01] Voice 10: well and i just i'll come to you in a minute but i just point out that we did hear

[1:03:08] Voice 10: today from ken that there's going to be information forthcoming and then i don't think

[1:03:16] Voice 10: any of us sitting at the table knows precisely what that is um so we we can't report on that

[1:03:21] Voice 10: when that comes in an official way to the local trust committee it will absolutely come before

[1:03:25] Voice 10: the public um i'm gonna go i'm gonna go to ben did you have something no

[1:03:32] Voice 4: i mean i think there

[1:03:34] Voice 10: may be frustrating frustration with the processes but the processes sometimes don't happen quickly

[1:03:39] Voice 10: and so we can't share information about a process that hasn't had a conclusion we're still waiting

[1:03:47] Voice 10: for that conclusion and so to write an article about it and put it in the paper would be

[1:03:53] Voice 10: disrespectful to the panelica and to their processes right and so just ask for your

[1:04:01] Voice 10: patience in that but that's the way the process works yeah yeah okay you know

[1:04:10] Voice 10: feels like i'm being a broken record but again we're trailblazing we're learning as we go

[1:04:17] Voice 10: right you know there's frustration about you know it's a process we're learning how to deal with

[1:04:23] Voice 10: this and again you know we're here to communicate work together as good neighbors and uh you know

[1:04:30] Voice 10: i really appreciate everybody's concern and uh yeah thank you for caring you know to bring up

[1:04:36] Voice 10: these concerns and i get the same from where i let them know there's some things that might

[1:04:47] Voice 10: be happening and we're working on it but again i don't go and go and report to the community and

[1:04:54] Voice 10: say and then because they'll be doing the same thing well what's going on right you know we

[1:04:59] Voice 10: gotta have facts first before we can report right otherwise it'd be just nothing but speculation

[1:05:04] Voice 10: regulation things like that it's not good so you know i just had to share that part we're learning

[1:05:11] Voice 10: as we go and when there's definite facts out there they will be shared because it'll be a

[1:05:18] Voice 10: proud moment for for sure on our end anyway but you know um i really really want to thank

[1:05:27] Voice 10: everybody for being here bringing their concerns up this is why we have these meetings right so

[1:05:34] Voice 4: you

[1:05:35] Voice 10: know i just want to let you know unfortunately we have to get going now

[1:05:39] Voice 10: so um thank you all for coming out thank you for your concerns and we're always willing to

[1:05:47] Voice 10: come and talk pretty much everybody has the uh my cell number thinking about getting a new phone

[1:06:05] Well, I just want to thank everybody for getting together and look

[1:06:10] Voice 10: forward to seeing each other again.

[1:06:12] Voice 10: Any other concerns, come on, please let us know.

[1:06:15] Voice 10: Again, it doesn't have to be at a meeting or whatever, but, you know, if there's any other concerns, please contact us.

[1:06:24] It's pretty similar to last time in Congress.

[1:06:27] I don't know why I see that.

[1:06:38] Voice 10: all right so before we move on anyone else have anything not seeing any hands

[1:06:47] Voice 10: yes your comments are basically come from the fact that i'm a multi-purpose rep

[1:06:52] Voice 10: and i want a clear paper trail and transparency

[1:07:07] Voice 10: So, next up, we have the minutes of December 10 or production trustees any corrections

[1:07:18] Voice 10: to those minutes.

[1:07:20] Voice 11: Very small, minor change.

[1:07:25] Voice 11: Page 10.

[1:07:28] Voice 11: 16.8.

[1:07:30] Voice 11: I mistakenly said that it was the Allen Trust Conservancy 30th anniversary is the 35th anniversary

[1:07:37] Voice 9: 35

[1:07:38] Voice 11: years my dad that's the only thing otherwise okay

[1:07:45] Voice 10: can i take it by general consent we'll adopt

[1:07:48] Voice 10: the minutes as amended yeah excellent okay no resolutions without meeting agency minutes

[1:07:55] Voice 10: and that brings us to follow-up action list on page 11. i'll turn it over to planners doctor to

[1:08:01] Voice 10: to update us. Thank

[1:08:04] Voice 11: you so much, Chair. So if you go to page 11 in the agenda, which is the very start to the follow up action report, the first one there actually has been on there for about a year and a half. And that was to bring options forward for public participation for the work program. So Robert Kojima did put some of those points in his staff report. So that one can actually be marked up and we can continue that discussion

[1:08:32] Voice 11: about public participation and options as the LTC decides what their next project will be.

[1:08:40] Voice 11: Other items that are in progress, this is on page 12.

[1:08:48] Voice 11: What I'm realizing is I'm struggling with application numbers. It'd be nice to put

[1:08:53] Voice 11: names associated with last year because it's hard to pick up more application numbers. So

[1:08:59] Voice 11: So, um, these are in relation to 85 and 86. So as we know that they are in progress finalizing a site plan. And after that, then the floors will be sent out to the Galliano Parks and Rec Commission.

[1:09:13] Voice 11: Commission. The bottom of that page there, that's in relation

[1:09:19] Voice 11: to several covenants. The first one there, I have to double

[1:09:24] Voice 11: check on where the status of that one is in terms of the

[1:09:27] Voice 11: building permit, but as for the waterfalls subdivision

[1:09:30] Voice 11: covenants, Joe, Peter Sable will be at the Victoria office

[1:09:36] Voice 11: tomorrow to sign this. On page 13 of the staff report at the

[1:09:41] Voice 11: very top for APC, I graduated planning commission, that

[1:09:47] Voice 11: advertisement has gone out. And so the LTC will be considering

[1:09:53] Voice 11: memberships for that commission later on today. The Harris

[1:10:00] Voice 11: resuming that I have to get back to the applicant on that. And as

[1:10:03] Voice 11: I mentioned, the groundwater sustainability projects, the OCP

[1:10:07] Voice 11: key amendments by law 283 is with the minister to do a review and then on the last page on page 14

[1:10:17] Voice 11: um in terms of the progress status that's in relation to crystal mountain

[1:10:24] Voice 11: and uh planner brad smith and i also have to have a discussion with robert fujima in terms of the

[1:10:30] Voice 11: uh the land trust transfer resolutions that the ltc made at the last meeting so those will be

[1:10:35] Voice 11: for the discussion as well and

[1:10:39] Voice 8: trustees any questions

[1:10:44] Voice 8: um i have a couple so they're going to be in terms of that

[1:10:48] Voice 10: item number one about the uh

[1:10:51] Voice 10: public participation options you know there's sort of a piece of that in in mr jima's report

[1:10:58] Voice 10: um is there a consideration that there might be sort of a more standalone report at a future

[1:11:03] Voice 10: agenda or not

[1:11:05] Voice 11: at this time unless the ltc really wants that and we can and that could be provided

[1:11:10] Voice 11: at a later stage as well but um at this time we're just kind of point for him but we're having to

[1:11:16] Voice 11: provide more detail that's what we want to see which is and

[1:11:19] Voice 10: then the other item was um page 12

[1:11:26] Voice 10: uh number two under the september 10th um the scheduling meeting with multi-applicants

[1:11:39] Voice 10: meeting staff and multi um so the scheduling's done but the meeting hasn't taken place yet is

[1:11:45] Voice 10: that the way

[1:11:45] Voice 11: of reading that so the meeting was taking place but that was between moti

[1:11:51] Voice 11: staff and so i'll report on that later when i get to those applications okay um and i'll mention um

[1:12:00] Voice 11: one of the applicants all right fair

[1:12:05] Voice 10: enough thank you for that okay then um

[1:12:08] Voice 10: um we do have a break scheduled you take 10 minutes yes please okay let's take 10 minutes

[1:12:23] Voice 10: let's come back um let's go back so uh

[1:12:30] Voice 3: recess the meetings

[1:12:32] Voice 3: thank you

[1:28:36] Voice 10: so um we are moving on to the applications and referral section

[1:28:42] Voice 10: and first up we have a referral from the salt spring island local trust committee for

[1:28:47] Voice 10: proposed bylaw 531 and i'll turn it over to staff to introduce the app yeah

[1:28:54] Voice 11: so this is a bylaw

[1:28:56] Voice 11: referral from the salt spring island ltc and the purpose of the bylaw amendment is to change the

[1:29:04] Voice 11: zoning of a subject property from rural to a rural variance and site-specific uh rural zone

[1:29:11] Voice 11: to permit one dwelling and one full-time rental cottage and the bylaw is attached for the ltc

[1:29:21] Voice 11: and then if the ltc um believes that its interests are unaffected then a resolution is taken

[1:29:35] Voice 10: thank you trustees

[1:29:36] Voice 11: i did a little digging on the property it's um it has shown a few times

[1:29:42] Voice 11: in the minutes of the allen trust conservancy board um and assuming that didn't flag any

[1:29:47] Voice 11: concerns i would

[1:29:48] Voice 6: think my my feeling is that our interests are affected by this final

[1:29:52] Voice 6: and it's important to note that it is an important connection for the wildlife movement

[1:30:00] Voice 6: on the screen. Yeah, it's on the properties of buffer

[1:30:06] Voice 11: for the

[1:30:07] Voice 6: lower portion of

[1:30:10] Voice 11: that age

[1:30:10] Voice 11: reserve. But other than that, there wasn't any concerns since 2018 with the on-trust

[1:30:19] Voice 11: observancy around any type of legal article concerns. So I don't see how it would affect

[1:30:25] Voice 11: That's the comments

[1:30:28] Voice 10: just to never know. I mean, I agree. If you want to make a motion

[1:30:32] Voice 10: that are interested, I'm affected. Sure

[1:30:34] Voice 11: thing. My movie at the Galliano Trust Committee.

[1:30:40] Voice 11: Actually, let me wrap it up.

[1:30:45] Voice 6: Report back to bylaw referral. Sorry. Bylaw number

[1:30:54] Voice 11: 5401

[1:30:55] Voice 11: that our interests are not okay

[1:30:57] Voice 10: i'll second a little bit seconded any discussion not seeing

[1:31:02] Voice 10: any i'll call the question all those in favor and the motion carries thank you for that and

[1:31:09] Voice 10: then moving on starting with page 21 we have a couple of uh rezonings and i'll turn it back over

[1:31:20] Voice 10: over to planner. Thank

[1:31:21] Voice 11: you. So the first one here is actually a

[1:31:24] Voice 11: staff staff memorandum. So there isn't a resolution or motion for

[1:31:31] Voice 11: the LTC to consider at this time, it's more just an update on

[1:31:35] Voice 11: where the two resuming applications are. So these are in

[1:31:40] Voice 11: relation to district 85 and 86. And to refresh our memory at the

[1:31:45] Voice 11: the LTC meeting of last year,

[1:31:48] Voice 11: the LTC gave direction to staff to prepare bylaws

[1:31:52] Voice 11: for both rezoning applications,

[1:31:54] Voice 11: to send the applications to the Galeano Island

[1:32:00] Voice 11: Parks and Recreation Commission,

[1:32:02] Voice 11: and also for staff to meet with the Ministry

[1:32:06] Voice 11: of Transportation and Infrastructure,

[1:32:08] Voice 11: Penelope Tribe and the applicant

[1:32:11] Voice 11: to discuss the road access

[1:32:14] Voice 11: for 85 and 86. So in terms of an update, the LTC, as we're at the meeting with Penelaket,

[1:32:24] Voice 11: so just for the community's benefit, the primary discussion at the Penelaket tribe council

[1:32:33] Voice 11: meeting between staff and the LTC was more so just to go over the application and to

[1:32:39] Voice 11: go over the site plan that the applicants have presented and so we went over the site plans um

[1:32:45] Voice 11: and what the proponent is proposing um there was a suggestion for canalicate to tribe uh

[1:32:53] Voice 11: chief council members and staff to potentially do a site uh site visit so we're working on

[1:33:00] Voice 11: potentially setting that up in the next few months um and as we heard from canalicate

[1:33:07] Voice 11: Council Member Ken Thomas. It sounds like there will be a land work coming in the next couple of days, if not a couple of weeks.

[1:33:16] Voice 11: In terms of the meeting between staff and the Ministry of Transportation and Infrastructure, which is now apparently the Ministry of Transportation and Transit,

[1:33:26] Voice 11: originally this was supposed to be a meeting between the applicant staff, MOTI and other staff,

[1:33:35] Voice 11: staff. But I decided that since it's such early in the process, that we just, I was just stopping

[1:33:44] Voice 11: get information from MOTT first. And so staff member from MOTT stated that the majority of the

[1:33:53] Voice 11: decisions related to the road dedication to parents of road would be primarily subdivision

[1:34:03] Voice 11: stage that doesn't necessarily have to be finalized at the rezoning stage we just need to

[1:34:09] Voice 11: make sure at the rezoning stage that the site plan is finalized and the MOTT staff also noted

[1:34:18] Voice 11: or mentioned that the applicants can start moving forward with submitting their subdivision

[1:34:23] Voice 11: application so those two processes the rezoning application and the subdivision application can

[1:34:30] Voice 11: right at the same time there can be parallel application processes. The key point is making

[1:34:36] Voice 11: sure that the site plan is more or less kind of in its final form. In terms of emergency access,

[1:34:46] Voice 11: so the road network plan in the OCP does indicate that the existing

[1:34:53] Voice 11: existing easement access as a potential proposed highway so that is in consideration for a condition

[1:35:01] Voice 11: of the rezoning to formally dedicate that but again that'll be a discussion with MOTT and

[1:35:07] Voice 11: Connecticut on deciding if there will be formal road dedication or potentially that portion of

[1:35:13] Voice 11: the road would be transferred to Connecticut so those are discussions that will be forthcoming

[1:35:18] Voice 11: In addition, District 185, the road network plan shows an area of proposed emergency access.

[1:35:27] Voice 11: I believe there was a discussion that this emergency access may already be in place,

[1:35:33] Voice 11: but that's something that we have staff still need to determine.

[1:35:36] Voice 11: So if it's not currently in place, that may be something the LTC would want to consider as a condition of design,

[1:35:42] Voice 11: is having that emergency access finalized.

[1:35:48] Voice 11: so i did in my staff memo put together kind of a next step in next steps for the applicants

[1:35:56] Voice 11: staff haven't indicated to the applicants to really move forward on all their items in the

[1:36:02] Voice 11: terms of reference because we really want to finalize that site plan first we want to determine

[1:36:06] Voice 11: where the lots will be located how many rural residential lots there will be if there's going

[1:36:12] Voice 11: going to be an affordable housing lot or if it's going to be just park dedication. So finalizing

[1:36:19] Voice 11: that site plan is really the big step right now and it sounds like that's going to be hopefully

[1:36:25] Voice 11: done this this spring and then the applicant can start moving forward and staff can then draft that

[1:36:32] Voice 11: bylaw for the LTC's consideration. So as mentioned the next steps for staff is to hopefully schedule

[1:36:40] Voice 11: site visit with the applicant sometime in the next couple of months and to help assist with

[1:36:48] Voice 11: finalizing the site plan and i'll leave it that there's no recommendations for the ltc center but

[1:36:54] Voice 11: i'm happy to answer any questions and applicants are here as well thank

[1:36:59] Voice 10: you um just a couple of

[1:37:01] Voice 10: things of just note on page um 22 of the memo uh just minor correction there the meeting was

[1:37:12] Voice 10: january 9th 2025 and um just for the information um for the for the public in terms of um of that

[1:37:24] Voice 10: meeting with milliken the bullet points there are the are the questions um that were brought

[1:37:33] Voice 10: to pedelicate and uh we did express at the time we didn't expect them to provide us with answers

[1:37:39] Voice 10: they don't on the spot um and the letter that ken thomas mentioned um we're hoping it's going

[1:37:48] Voice 10: to be addressing those points so in in terms of disclosure all of these things have been discussed

[1:37:54] Voice 10: um at public meetings uh prior to today uh so trustees any comments

[1:38:03] Voice 9: um i don't have any comments actually right now

[1:38:08] Voice 9: uh

[1:38:11] Voice 10: no i i mean this is just for information this is sort of um a little bit of information on top

[1:38:17] Voice 10: top of sort of what people were asking for earlier in the meeting um yeah i mean we're waiting

[1:38:24] Voice 10: obviously for the letter from penelope drive and we'll see what that says and then um hopefully

[1:38:31] Voice 10: like the staff says um we can uh see what we have in the spring yeah

[1:38:38] Voice 7: oh of course first one

[1:38:41] Voice 7: anyway i just i just want to say that um ken did call me yesterday and basically just to confirm

[1:38:49] Voice 7: that they are happy with the site plan the way it is and that they would like to get the road

[1:38:54] Voice 7: themselves and of course ken said it's very important they are keeping emergency accesses

[1:39:00] Voice 7: so i know that that emergency access will be very important to them as well as to the public

[1:39:06] Voice 7: so it looks like yeah and then so it's basically it's whether that lot there is going to be an

[1:39:12] Voice 7: amenity or a park we can put it on our plan as either or and then it'll be up to the public

[1:39:17] Voice 7: or you guys to decide whether you want that as an amenity lot or as if you want it as a park

[1:39:21] Voice 7: yeah

[1:39:22] Voice 2: my question was who's decided what it becomes how does that work what's the procedure

[1:39:25] Voice 2: does it become an amenity or does it i mean what's involved which way does it go yes

[1:39:31] Voice 11: it's a really

[1:39:31] Voice 11: good question so in terms of the ltc the ltc has the authority to decide uh what is the community

[1:39:38] Voice 11: benefit for this application and so originally affordable housing was one of those so the one

[1:39:47] Voice 11: of those sale proceeds of the sale of the lot could be donated and so forth now there was

[1:39:52] Voice 11: discussion of perhaps a park dedication which would also satisfy the requirement of potentially

[1:40:00] Voice 11: essentially a park dedication for the subdivision process.

[1:40:03] Voice 11: So that may be some, so there's the LTC has to decide

[1:40:08] Voice 11: which is just going to be a park dedication

[1:40:11] Voice 11: or the affordable housing.

[1:40:12] Voice 11: And then the MOTT would also have to decide

[1:40:15] Voice 11: if there's going to be park dedication,

[1:40:17] Voice 11: but if you want to have those conversations early, so.

[1:40:20] Voice 11: But

[1:40:20] Voice 2: it's basically the LTC that makes the decision.

[1:40:23] Voice 2: Is that what you're saying?

[1:40:24] Voice 11: They make their decision on what would be deemed

[1:40:26] Voice 11: a community benefit.

[1:40:27] Voice 11: it mott or the approving officer would decide on

[1:40:31] Voice 11: the park dedication okay

[1:40:32] Voice 7: so we can just say that

[1:40:33] Voice 7: land can be used as which either or whichever our proposal

[1:40:38] Voice 2: right now yeah yeah

[1:40:39] Voice 2: but then the

[1:40:40] Voice 11: ltc has the authority to decide either way yeah if

[1:40:44] Voice 11: no we would like it as park or no we want this land

[1:40:47] Voice 11: uh for affordable housing and then the applicant would then have to figure out other land for

[1:40:52] Voice 11: potentially yes

[1:40:55] Voice 10: also like to bring up i think i've brought it up before but um and we've talked

[1:41:00] Voice 10: about it but the emergency access um or egress from thera is also we need to have part of the

[1:41:08] Voice 10: thing because they have no escape if there's a fire on the west side and

[1:41:16] Voice 7: we've already got a

[1:41:16] Voice 7: road there that they can use as an emergency access it's just a matter of them connecting

[1:41:20] Voice 7: thing to our road so

[1:41:22] Voice 10: that would be in the cycle yeah yeah

[1:41:24] Voice 7: and we will make sure that's shown on

[1:41:26] Voice 7: our plan

[1:41:28] Voice 10: great uh yeah just a little clarification making your notes here um we were talking to

[1:41:37] Voice 10: today about coming up for cyclism does the august trust want to be a part of that site visit

[1:41:46] Voice 10: from

[1:41:47] Voice 11: a staff member's perspective i love i would really appreciate being invited to that i think

[1:41:51] Voice 11: be doing my very best to attend um trustees i'm not sure if the trustees have any interests

[1:41:55] Voice 11: individually i just recommend once the ice is gone

[1:42:05] Voice 9: and i will we'll be happy

[1:42:08] Voice 7: to show you around

[1:42:12] Voice 10: okay and i mean i i'd love to and and uh how and when sort of a little bit up in the air but uh

[1:42:20] Voice 10: i think it's one of those things you can look at a drawing it's a lot different than actually

[1:42:26] Voice 10: being there right so if

[1:42:29] Voice 7: we can't get you guys

[1:42:30] Voice 8: hopefully we can find some opportunities

[1:42:35] Voice 8: okay

[1:42:35] Voice 10: um anything else on the memo today

[1:42:41] Voice 10: well the other thing that was comfortable

[1:42:44] Voice 10: we'll try to arrange

[1:42:49] Voice 10: I'm just going to say

[1:42:50] Voice 10: we're going to wait until sometime in March

[1:42:52] Voice 10: to see if it goes over

[1:42:54] Voice 10: make the opportunity for that

[1:42:56] Voice 10: that's prior to the next meeting

[1:42:57] Voice 10: and we'll get that out of the way

[1:43:00] Voice 10: if that's possible

[1:43:01] Voice 10: and

[1:43:02] Voice 9: then

[1:43:03] Voice 10: it may be

[1:43:04] Voice 10: that you guys come

[1:43:06] Voice 10: one time because we're more available

[1:43:08] Voice 10: that time

[1:43:10] Voice 10: some of you have actually been on

[1:43:11] Voice 10: many

[1:43:12] Voice 9: times

[1:43:21] Voice 9: sure

[1:43:22] Voice 10: and just in terms of like logistics from my end that means nothing needs to be held up

[1:43:28] Voice 10: on whether i can or can't but i totally appreciate if you could just shoot me an email

[1:43:35] Voice 10: and maybe you can spitball uh potential dates that might

[1:43:40] Voice 10: work so that i'm not you know

[1:43:43] Voice 10: yeah i mean that's just for that kind of thing if i if i

[1:43:47] Voice 10: get if i can roll it into some already

[1:43:49] Voice 10: planned travel or something like that that would be ideal for my head

[1:43:51] Voice 2: how are you thinking mid-march

[1:43:53] Voice 2: at this point but that's okay

[1:43:55] Voice 10: but yeah if you want to shoot me an email then we can have a little

[1:43:58] Voice 10: dialogue on that push the warm up to me next week see what what goes on there okay um you need a

[1:44:05] Voice 10: motion to accept this for information no no i think you just received it um

[1:44:10] Voice 10: so let's move on then starting on page 25 uh district block 14 rezoning and i'll turn it over

[1:44:20] Voice 10: to gladys doctor thank

[1:44:21] Voice 11: you chair peterson uh so this staff report has provided the ltc with further

[1:44:27] Voice 11: information uh regarding the recovery and also to present a draft bylaw that staff have put together

[1:44:33] Voice 11: And the number for that is draft bylaw number 2-1-1.

[1:44:37] Voice 11: So on the June 20th LTC meeting in 2023, the LTC reviewed the preliminary staff report

[1:44:47] Voice 11: and then gave direction to staff to proceed with the application and to prepare draft bylaws.

[1:44:55] Voice 11: laws. The applicant heads worked very hard to bring forward all the information stated

[1:45:03] Voice 11: in the terms of reference and I'll go over that in just a bit here. So as mentioned,

[1:45:09] Voice 11: there is a draft bylaw 291 that's attached to the staff report and I'm just going to

[1:45:14] Voice 11: quickly go over it with the LTC if you have it in front of you. Draft bylaws at times

[1:45:21] Voice 11: are more difficult rather straightforward so on page 32 of the agenda it's the first page of the

[1:45:30] Voice 11: draft bylaw 291 and so when they're 2.1 it says site specific regulations so what this means is

[1:45:39] Voice 11: these regulations here would be specifically just for district lot 14 or that portion of it

[1:45:45] Voice 11: that will be rezoned to a forest 3a

[1:45:49] Voice 9: and

[1:45:50] Voice 11: so all the forest 3 regulations will be applicable to this

[1:45:54] Voice 11: um the portion of land but then there's two site-specific regulations um which are there

[1:46:02] Voice 11: that states um one not one single non-residential building or structure for timber production

[1:46:09] Voice 11: harvesting with a floor area not exceeding 93 square meters is permitted per dwelling

[1:46:18] Voice 11: and that there must be screening for those buildings. And the second one states that

[1:46:26] Voice 11: there is four dwellings accessory to timber production harvesting permitted with a maximum

[1:46:34] Voice 11: month square feet of 93. so the purpose of those site-specific regulations is allow four dwellings

[1:46:41] Voice 11: on the subject property which complies with the ocp and then each individual dwelling would be

[1:46:48] Voice 11: permitted the one single non-residential building so we're tying those to each dwelling so four

[1:46:56] Voice 11: dwellings than four um single non-residential buildings

[1:47:01] Voice 11: and then that smaller 2.7 hectare section would be rezoned to a forest industrial site specific zone

[1:47:12] Voice 11: and so the principal uses permitted will be timber production and harvesting

[1:47:19] Voice 11: aggregate processing and storage storage repair of forestry equipment and vehicles

[1:47:25] Voice 11: and then the accessory uses would be sawmilling and cleaning of timber and the growing of seedlings and nurseries,

[1:47:32] Voice 11: and accessory contractors, workshop and yards, and the accessory sale of building material and supplies.

[1:47:42] Voice 11: And so the rest of that zone mimics the forest industrial zone that's in the land use file currently.

[1:47:52] Voice 11: So going back to the staff report, staff outlined on page 27 of the agenda, which is page 3

[1:48:00] Voice 11: of the staff report, how the application complies to the OCP.

[1:48:06] Voice 11: So there's a table there for the LTCs review.

[1:48:12] Voice 11: So to discuss the terms of reference, this was given to the applicant a year or so ago

[1:48:17] Voice 11: and as mentioned that has been working really hard to provide all this information to the LTC.

[1:48:23] Voice 11: The first is a developable area site plan which has been provided and that's attached to the

[1:48:29] Voice 11: draft land use bylaw 291 at the

[1:48:32] Voice 11: very end. So that's where that site plan resides. It's also

[1:48:36] Voice 11: going to be a part of the sustainable forestry department version of the site plan. A hydro

[1:48:43] Voice 11: a neurogeologist groundwater assessment was also provided

[1:48:48] Voice 11: and the testing was done on the existing well

[1:48:53] Voice 11: that connects to the one dwelling that's being used

[1:48:56] Voice 11: or one dwelling that's on the property.

[1:49:00] Voice 11: And the assessment concludes that the yield from the well

[1:49:06] Voice 11: exceeds the bylaw requirements and also the quality

[1:49:10] Voice 11: quality of the water exceeds the Canadian drinking water standards.

[1:49:17] Voice 11: And especially in the staff report on page 29 as a condition of re-sewing, staff recommend

[1:49:24] Voice 11: the LTC require a section 219 covenant that would require another or a new groundwater

[1:49:31] Voice 11: assessment when the property owner is ready to connect the other two existing wells to

[1:49:38] Voice 11: dwelling units down the road there's no point in doing the pumping assessor test now because they

[1:49:44] Voice 11: may not build those dwellings for many many years so this covenant would require that company test

[1:49:50] Voice 11: to be done prior to construction of the dwelling and also the assessment would have to ensure that

[1:49:57] Voice 11: there's sufficient quality and quantity before that building can be completed so although the

[1:50:03] Voice 11: zone says yes you're permitted for dwellings the groundwater assessment has to make sure that

[1:50:09] Voice 11: there's sufficient quality and quantity and also the property owner is aware that they would have

[1:50:15] Voice 11: to comply with the water sustainable react as well the so in terms of septic servicing

[1:50:23] Voice 11: information has provided that there is a sufficient area for future septic areas

[1:50:31] Voice 11: And also finally, the Sustainable Forestry Management Covenant staff just received a copy of this draft covenant last week.

[1:50:40] Voice 11: So we're going to take a look at it and circulate that to the LTC.

[1:50:43] Voice 11: And the Galliano Conservancy Association has agreed to act as the third party on the covenant.

[1:50:52] Voice 11: So that is in process as well.

[1:50:53] Voice 11: So, what I really wanted to focus on is, and this is in relation to the recommendations for the LTC to consider, is the statutory requirements for a public hearing.

[1:51:07] Voice 11: So, in the last few years, the Local Government Act has changed a little bit.

[1:51:11] Voice 11: Previously, the LTC or local governments had the option to waive a public hearing if a bylaw is consistent with an OCP, an official community grant.

[1:51:24] Voice 11: But now, the wording has changed from waiving to a local trust committee is not required to hold a public hearing, but you have to give notice of first reading.

[1:51:35] Voice 11: So that's the formal process.

[1:51:38] Voice 11: So the LTC believes that the proposed Land Use By-law complies or is consistent with the official community plan.

[1:51:46] Voice 11: A public hearing is required, but the process would be to give notice of first reading.

[1:51:52] Voice 11: So as mentioned on page 29 of the staff report, I kind of outlined these options because I

[1:51:58] Voice 11: believe this is the first time, I understand maybe a previous LTC waived by-law, but this

[1:52:03] Voice 11: is the first time an LTC has given notice of post-reading.

[1:52:08] Voice 11: So step number one as mentioned, the LTC gives direction to staff to draft a by-law if done,

[1:52:15] Voice 11: done. The second is bylaw referrals, and the third is the LTC review, the draft bylaw, which is in

[1:52:23] Voice 11: process. So the next step is where the LTC is at right now, if the LTC feels comfortable with the

[1:52:29] Voice 11: draft bylaw. The LTC gives direction to staff to give notice of first reading. So that notice is

[1:52:36] Voice 11: then posted in the newspaper and also on community boards and the ltc also has the option to schedule

[1:52:46] Voice 11: a community information meeting and this community information meeting almost acts as a de facto

[1:52:52] Voice 11: public hearing so what we've seen is that um the ltc gives notice of first reading and at that ltc

[1:53:00] Voice 11: meeting it starts with a community information meeting where community members can ask questions

[1:53:05] Voice 11: and also state if they're in support or not support of the application and then after that

[1:53:11] Voice 11: the ltc has the option to give first second and third reading at that same meeting even though

[1:53:18] Voice 11: the ltc has the option to do that you may not want to you may want to just do cim and do first

[1:53:24] Voice 11: reading and consider what you've heard you may need to ask staff to come back with amendments

[1:53:29] Voice 11: to the tool management by-law or the amendment by-law.

[1:53:32] Voice 11: But that's something to consider.

[1:53:35] Voice 11: And also since there's no public hearing,

[1:53:38] Voice 11: the LTC can still receive communication

[1:53:42] Voice 11: from the community members

[1:53:45] Voice 11: through this process up to adoption.

[1:53:47] Voice 11: So I know this is a new process for the LTC

[1:53:52] Voice 11: and for Galliano community members,

[1:53:54] Voice 11: but I wanna stress the importance

[1:53:56] Voice 11: and holding that community information meeting

[1:53:59] Voice 11: before first reading to really give the community

[1:54:02] Voice 11: an opportunity to speak to this draft bylaw.

[1:54:05] Voice 11: Although a CIM isn't a requirement,

[1:54:07] Voice 11: but it's recommended.

[1:54:10] Voice 11: So going back, so staff does recommend

[1:54:14] Voice 11: since the proposal is in compliance with the OCP,

[1:54:19] Voice 11: at this point, staff are recommending

[1:54:24] Voice 11: the LTC give direction to staff to give notice of first reading. In this motion it states

[1:54:33] Voice 11: that after the receipt of a draft sustainable forestry covenant and a groundwater assessment

[1:54:39] Voice 11: covenant. So what we can do if the LTC moves forward with this motion of giving first reading,

[1:54:46] Voice 11: we wait until we have a finalized sustainable forestry covenant and

[1:54:50] Voice 11: a finalized groundwater

[1:54:51] Voice 11: water assessment covenant that the ltc is comfortable with before we're actually moving

[1:54:55] Voice 11: forward to first reading and then the second motion there is for the ltc to request staff to

[1:55:02] Voice 11: schedule a cim prior to first reading but i believe that i know it's a lot of information

[1:55:08] Voice 11: to go through and i'm happy to ask any questions or to explain as well and the applicant is here

[1:55:14] Voice 11: yeah do

[1:55:17] Voice 10: you have anything you wanted to add okay i'll turn it over trustees questions

[1:55:24] Voice 11: uh well thank you very thorough uh staff reports and

[1:55:29] Voice 9: what that has gone into

[1:55:30] Voice 6: this too um

[1:55:32] Voice 6: yeah i haven't seen any uh notice of first reading before that is interesting um i don't have any

[1:55:39] Voice 6: concern at this point i'm i totally agree with the recommendations so we should move forward

[1:55:45] Voice 6: on that and i would be prepared to make that motion okay

[1:55:49] Voice 10: before we get there i'll check with

[1:55:50] Voice 10: trustee yeah yeah thanks for the staff report very thorough um thank you to the applicant

[1:55:57] Voice 10: i think a lot of work has been done since the last time we we saw this application um we had

[1:56:04] Voice 10: a meeting with the fire department about emergency accesses for the fire department

[1:56:11] Voice 10: I think I asked that question early on in the process, and I'm not sure, I think the

[1:56:16] Voice 10: staff report indicated that there wasn't any real avenue for an emergency access for this

[1:56:21] Voice 10: lot.

[1:56:22] Voice 10: So I think we've kind of covered that off, but going to a community information meeting,

[1:56:26] Voice 10: I think we'd get that probably brought us anyways.

[1:56:31] Voice 10: You know, I look at this application, it's no secret, there's probably parts of the OCP

[1:56:37] Voice 10: that I'm not a fan of.

[1:56:39] Voice 10: But if you look at this application, they have complied with the OCP as it exists. It's not my

[1:56:44] Voice 10: job to recreate an OCP in my mind and make people adhere to that. I like this application in a sense

[1:56:56] Voice 10: that there are very few large tracts of land left in the south of Galliana that can be preserved

[1:57:04] Voice 10: as large tracts of land this is one of them and I think that's significant right so with that in

[1:57:15] Voice 10: mind I'm prepared to move ahead with recommendations as well right I think we'll go to we'll go to our

[1:57:20] Voice 10: community information meeting once we've got the the information that we need we'll schedule that

[1:57:25] Voice 10: community information meeting and we'll go from there and we'll see put it out to the community

[1:57:30] Voice 10: everybody will have a chance to come to that hearing and let us know if there's something

[1:57:37] Voice 10: that we've missed. I think we were pretty thorough early on. I asked for a bunch of stuff and all of

[1:57:44] Voice 10: those things were addressed. And so, yeah, I'm prepared to go ahead. Thank you, Trustee. And just

[1:57:53] Voice 10: before I go back to the planner, I just want to state that, although you've outlined how this

[1:58:00] Voice 10: is a little bit new but i think there's actually from my mind there's some advantages in terms of

[1:58:06] Voice 10: one of the points you made which is that um by going ahead with the community information we

[1:58:13] Voice 10: have that interface with the with the community with the public um but we're also not um in that

[1:58:20] Voice 10: position of being post-public hearing where we cannot receive any more feedback from the public

[1:58:25] Voice 10: so i actually take that as a positive thing myself i i think that that allows more flexibility for

[1:58:33] Voice 10: with the local trust committee to hear and it allows more um opportunity for the public

[1:58:39] Voice 10: to to address concerns so i just wanted to state that i think that's a positive and

[1:58:44] Voice 10: back over to you planter stop bill thank

[1:58:46] Voice 11: you and trustee maberly thank you for bringing up

[1:58:48] Voice 11: the referrals that's something i missed in my staff report so yes the referral with the cod

[1:58:53] Voice 11: is going to happen still in terms of the emergency access the public trail across the property that's

[1:59:00] Voice 11: off the table due to safety concerns but the emergency access is still something that

[1:59:04] Voice 11: staff needed to get discussed with the crd but initial discussions were that they weren't

[1:59:10] Voice 11: absolutely interested in it but we need to get that right from them yeah

[1:59:14] Voice 10: and i think it's a it's

[1:59:15] Voice 10: a good discussion to have anyways and uh whether whether they identify emergency access with the

[1:59:20] Voice 10: property or not at least um you know they've been heard and i know that the fire departments

[1:59:26] Voice 10: um that was one of their concerns on the application moving forward and no different

[1:59:30] Voice 10: and the application where we're looking at emergency access coming out of there so

[1:59:34] Voice 10: all right um would you like to make a motion

[1:59:44] Voice 10: motion. Trustee Gavreau.

[1:59:46] Voice 9: I move pursuant to

[1:59:47] Voice 6: the Local Government Act section 464.2 or number two

[1:59:53] Voice 6: the Galliano Local Trust Committee resolves not to hold public hearing for bylaw number

[2:00:00] Voice 6: 291, cited as Galeano Land Use Fly Law, number 127, 1999, amendment

[2:00:11] Voice 6: number 1,

[2:00:12] Voice 11: 2023, and that staff give notice the first reading in accordance

[2:00:17] Voice 6: with section 467 of the Local Complement Act, after the receipt of the draft Sustainable Forestry Covenant and Groundwater Assessment Covenant.

[2:00:33] Voice 10: I'll call the question all those in favor the motion carries and there's an additional

[2:00:38] Voice 10: motion there I'll do that the Galeano local trust committee requests staff to schedule

[2:00:42] Voice 10: a community information meeting for draft bylaw number 291 prior to first reading

[2:00:47] Voice 10: second is discussion no call the question all those in favor that carries well thank you trustees

[2:00:56] Voice 10: is all right uh that moves us along to page 37 um and that is the uh palmberg returning application

[2:01:10] Voice 10: and over to planners.gov so

[2:01:14] Voice 11: the purpose of this staff report is provide further information to

[2:01:17] Voice 11: the ltc from the applicant and to seek correction from the ltc to either proceed or not proceed with

[2:01:24] Voice 11: this application and or to prepare a draft bylaws so the application is to rezone the subject

[2:01:33] Voice 11: property to allow for these additional uses a work yard contractor contractor's workshop yard

[2:01:42] Voice 11: the storage and sale of gravel soil and aggregates saw milling painting and manufacturing of wood

[2:01:48] Voice 11: products and the production of sales of cider and wine. So at the July LTC meeting of last year,

[2:01:56] Voice 11: the LTC asked for further information from the applicant, which the applicant has provided.

[2:02:04] Voice 11: It's not attached to the staff report, but it's on the application webpage for Galliano.

[2:02:12] Voice 11: now. So the applicant has provided an updated site plan has provided a well construction report. So

[2:02:20] Voice 11: this funnel was drilled in September or October, and has provided a detailed business, a business

[2:02:29] Voice 11: plan, which provides information on the phased approach and also the scale. So that's on page 38

[2:02:36] Voice 11: of the agenda. So that's there for the LTC's review. And I won't go into that too much in too

[2:02:41] Voice 11: much detail the applicant is here if you want to see any questions on that but what i really wanted

[2:02:46] Voice 11: to focus on is in terms of the potential draft land use model and also the terms of reference

[2:02:54] Voice 11: so in this time in terms of the official community plan the subject property is designated rule

[2:03:02] Voice 11: and the principal uses are resident residential agriculture and there are those proposed

[2:03:09] Voice 11: proposed accessory uses that don't necessarily fit in that designation, but don't necessarily

[2:03:15] Voice 11: fit in any other designation. So staff has to do further analysis if a OCP amendment

[2:03:22] Voice 11: by-law is required or not. So that's something that I'll be reporting back on at a future

[2:03:28] Voice 11: staff report. There will be a land-based by-law amendment if this application goes forward.

[2:03:34] Voice 11: uh it's currently zone rule two and the proposal is for a site specific rule two zone so that zone

[2:03:43] Voice 11: still retain that main principal residential use as well as that farm use and um then there would

[2:03:52] Voice 11: be an amendment to include those accessory uses as well the draft led can also be drafted in a

[2:03:59] Voice 11: certain ways to increase setbacks for certain uses especially by the abutting the northern

[2:04:04] Voice 11: residential area to establish a maximum floor area for certain uses or buildings

[2:04:10] Voice 11: establish type requirements landscape screening lens landscape screening and also lot coverage

[2:04:16] Voice 11: requirements so that's something that the planning staff will be working on and present back to the

[2:04:22] Voice 11: LTC in this report. Also, the LTC has an option and staff

[2:04:27] Voice 11: recommend this is a registration of exception 219 covenant. And

[2:04:33] Voice 11: this allows the LTC to further regulate those pieces that

[2:04:38] Voice 11: weren't that wouldn't necessarily fit in the land use

[2:04:41] Voice 11: file amendment, like regulating maybe the number of hours of

[2:04:48] Voice 11: operation, the number of trucks or something on the property.

[2:04:53] Voice 11: So those final details can be written into a section 219 covenant.

[2:04:58] Voice 11: So terms of reference is attached to the staff report and further information from the applicant

[2:05:05] Voice 11: would be required if the application is forward is a septic disposal report or some type of

[2:05:12] Voice 11: information to ensure that these proposed uses that there'd be appropriate septic systems.

[2:05:20] Voice 11: There would also be a requirement for an ecological report due to the riparian area on that one

[2:05:28] Voice 11: end of the property and also there's a wetland sensitive ecosystem.

[2:05:32] Voice 11: Our groundwater management plans would also be required, although what is to be included

[2:05:40] Voice 11: in this management plan is a discussion with our freshwater specialists.

[2:05:45] Voice 11: list. We don't have those fine details, but that's something

[2:05:47] Voice 11: staff will be working on. And also potentially a section 219

[2:05:52] Voice 11: covenant, as I mentioned, that would restrict the use further,

[2:05:56] Voice 11: also require a future groundwater assessment or any

[2:06:01] Voice 11: type of monitoring. And this section 219 covenant could

[2:06:07] Voice 11: include conditions of use, and also environmental monitoring.

[2:06:11] Voice 11: The staff report does go over some anticipated impacts of

[2:06:15] Voice 11: the proposed uses which was included in the previous staff report but staff are recommending

[2:06:20] Voice 11: for this application to proceed based on the fact that staff support the proposed uses although

[2:06:28] Voice 11: further information is required in terms of groundwater and for environmental assessment

[2:06:34] Voice 11: and those final details can be worked out so staff are have provided a recommendation for

[2:06:42] Voice 11: the ltc to consider to proceed with the application and for staff to prepare draft violence great

[2:06:50] Voice 10: thank you and is the applicant here today yes do you have anything you want to add at this time or

[2:06:55] Voice 10: i don't think so okay uh trustees questions comments uh

[2:07:01] Voice 11: there's quite a bit of info here

[2:07:03] Voice 11: thank you everyone for all the information here i think that uh yeah with everything here i think

[2:07:08] Voice 11: we should proceed uh i would like to see the draft bylaws i

[2:07:10] Voice 6: don't think we need anything else at this

[2:07:12] Voice 6: time yeah

[2:07:15] Voice 10: i think we're at that stage that we've got a lot of information a lot of things have been

[2:07:19] Voice 10: addressed and get the draft bylaws we'll start to refine what this application is going to look like

[2:07:24] Voice 10: and how we're going to move forward so i i agree i think we should proceed with the draft laws

[2:07:28] Voice 10: i should

[2:07:33] Voice 11: have clarified this that the ltc should give indication that the proposed uses are all

[2:07:40] Voice 11: generally supportable subject to any further information so if there's any uses here that

[2:07:45] Voice 11: you have the ltc feels like absolutely not this is not the right property for it and that discussion

[2:07:51] Voice 11: should be had but if there's general support for these post uses then dropping a file would be the

[2:07:56] Voice 11: next step uh

[2:07:57] Voice 6: yeah i'm totally okay with those things i don't have any issues i think that's

[2:08:01] Voice 6: been through the application or the commentary yeah

[2:08:06] Voice 10: i've been i've been on site a couple of times

[2:08:08] Voice 10: and uh a few times and and um yeah i agree this there's nothing here that i would be concerned

[2:08:15] Voice 10: about so let's let's move

[2:08:17] Voice 10: on to the next stage and see what what everything's going to look like

[2:08:20] Voice 10: there's been a

[2:08:20] Voice 6: terrific amount of um correspondence i think almost 100 letters

[2:08:26] Voice 6: and there are concerns for some of the letters and they will be

[2:08:28] Voice 11: addressed and they have been

[2:08:30] Voice 11: heard and we'll work through them yeah

[2:08:34] Voice 10: okay i'll make a motion that the galliano island

[2:08:37] Voice 10: local trust committee direct staff to proceed with application plrz20240003

[2:08:43] Voice 10: palmberg and prepare draft bylaws move seconded and you for the discussion

[2:08:51] Voice 10: motion carries okay and that uh concludes the application section uh so we're on to

[2:09:07] Voice 10: the work program uh starting at page 51. i'll turn it back over to staff thank

[2:09:16] Voice 11: you i believe

[2:09:17] Voice 11: Robert Kojima was going to join this meeting and present the staff report so I'm just waiting

[2:09:23] Voice 11: to hear back from him. So would it be worthwhile to deploy this and perhaps

[2:09:28] Voice 11: go to the applications report? Would that be okay to finish up the rest of the meeting to

[2:09:34] Voice 11: see if he's actually going to join us and if not, then I'll continue on.

[2:09:40] Voice 11: All right.

[2:09:42] Voice 10: Okay, then let's, let's do that. Let's look at the applications report starting on page 59.

[2:09:51] Voice 11: So this is, I think our first, well I shouldn't say first, but this is kind of our first final draft of the applications report, the LTC will see in the agendas.

[2:10:03] Voice 11: Staff have been working really hard on this because it is generated from CQ, which is our new application processing software.

[2:10:12] Voice 11: So if there's anything the LTC feels as though needs to be clarified in terms of the format, please let me know.

[2:10:19] Voice 11: No. But in terms of applications, many of these have been transferred from Phil to Samelle, who retired, and has been transferred to myself or Bruce.

[2:10:32] Voice 11: A lot of these have had a bit of a pause in the last month, so I'm happy to answer any questions the LTC may have, but I don't have any specific updates.

[2:10:40] Voice 11: Hey, Trustee. I

[2:10:43] Voice 10: actually have one question. Yes. The second one, my brother's, the variance, I assume that is going to the Board of Variants.

[2:10:56] Voice 11: Yes, that's right. So the Board of Variants is actually meeting electronically next week or next Tuesday. So that application will be for the Board of Variants on Tuesday.

[2:11:06] Voice 11: say

[2:11:07] Voice 10: and i have reviewed this application i have spoke with a member of the board of variance

[2:11:10] Voice 10: and just wanted to impress upon them about the importance of the screen between the property and

[2:11:16] Voice 10: the cemetery property right because these are going to be above ground for something that's

[2:11:22] Voice 10: above ground that's going to be visible so the importance of having a screen there

[2:11:26] Voice 10: so whether we pass that along i'm not sure i'm quite sure i

[2:11:31] Voice 9: think we'll see actually um

[2:11:32] Voice 9: on the dvp or on the building no

[2:11:34] Voice 11: we won't so this is a decision by the board of variance

[2:11:37] Voice 11: so the ltc is actually completely removed from this process but as part of this application

[2:11:44] Voice 11: the applicant is required to put a retaining wall around those above ground tanks and also

[2:11:50] Voice 11: cover them by soil so there will be a screening by retaining wall and soil okay

[2:11:56] Voice 10: yeah and i did

[2:11:57] Voice 10: pass this concern on to the member board of variance as well so just turn things on

[2:12:02] Voice 10: okay and further on that i see that uh

[2:12:07] Voice 10: Mr. Kajima, join us.

[2:12:16] Voice 9: Yeah, let's find this.

[2:12:18] Voice 9: What's the page in the mail?

[2:12:19] Voice 9: Hang

[2:12:20] Voice 11: on, I'm really ready to know that.

[2:12:20] Voice 11: On page 61, GLOWN 2021.1.

[2:12:26] Voice 6: What's OWN mean?

[2:12:27] Voice 11: Yes, so this is actually a Galliano,

[2:12:31] Voice 11: or sorry, a conservancy file

[2:12:32] Voice 11: that made it onto the LTC.

[2:12:34] Voice 11: Yes, so good catch.

[2:12:37] Voice 11: This is something that I did not catch.

[2:12:39] Voice 11: So we'll make sure that applications

[2:12:47] Voice 11: that's

[2:12:47] Voice 10: not supposed to be there that's

[2:12:49] Voice 11: not supposed to be very good

[2:12:56] Voice 10: okay then now we're concluded with that all right so let's go back to page 51

[2:13:03] Voice 10: regional planning manager uh patima is joining us online and i will turn it over to you sir

[2:13:09] Voice 1: thank you chair good afternoon ltc um so i got a report on here about your potential future

[2:13:17] Voice 1: work program uh so as you know the groundwater sustainability project is substantially complete

[2:13:23] Voice 1: the bylaws at the minister's office and barring unforeseen circumstances it'll come back for final

[2:13:29] Voice 1: consideration shortly um and this is an opportunity for the ltc to considerably start considering

[2:13:36] Voice 1: what they want to make a priority for the next year or the rest of the term.

[2:13:43] Voice 1: I've got some background information in the report about how your minor

[2:13:46] Voice 1: projects versus major projects.

[2:13:50] Voice 1: And I've taken what's on your future projects list right now,

[2:13:55] Voice 1: summarized it in a table, have a little bit of commentary on each of those,

[2:13:59] Voice 1: and then also highlight some of the strategic initiatives,

[2:14:04] Voice 1: whether they're trust council, strategic plan or regional planning committees, strategic initiatives and top priorities.

[2:14:14] Voice 1: You could also look at considering and then have a few comments and kind of a range of options for community engagement,

[2:14:23] Voice 1: because I know that was that was the resolution that the LTC passed, I think it was last year.

[2:14:29] Voice 1: so it's there for your consideration and uh if you do want to elevate something to your um active

[2:14:36] Voice 1: project there's a draft resolution wording in the recommendation section all

[2:14:42] Voice 10: right thank you uh

[2:14:43] Voice 10: trustees there's plenty to consider in in terms of the uh previous resolution for 2023 about

[2:14:53] Voice 10: getting community engagement on priorities there's some uh there's some options laid out here

[2:15:02] Voice 6: Yeah, there's lots of options. I think for me, the most important piece is that we get to an OCP review.

[2:15:09] Voice 9: That's something that we're long overdue for.

[2:15:13] Voice 9: We're a business case in. It's time for Galliano to do that. It's been over a decade.

[2:15:20] Voice 9: And I think a lot of the items that are on the project list could, during the

[2:15:27] Voice 11: review, do we get targeted review?

[2:15:29] Voice 11: of looking at like um i'd say like climate change preservation housing complex though like you don't

[2:15:43] Voice 9: need to get this you need other conversations about repression uh for

[2:15:54] Voice 10: me uh first of all i

[2:15:56] Voice 10: look at the sort of table of the um future project list and i i think you know it's helpful sometimes

[2:16:03] Voice 10: times when you see lists like this just strikes them off, so you're not looking at them anymore.

[2:16:09] Voice 10: You know, if you see the parking at Spanish Hills, that was resolved. It's all been done.

[2:16:16] Voice 10: The light industrial zoning, we're considering an application right now with light industrial

[2:16:20] Voice 10: zoning, and I'm not sure that that's something that we... I agree in a sense that I think

[2:16:26] Voice 10: we need to look forward to an OCP review. How we do that, I'm not sure, but a bunch

[2:16:31] Voice 10: these could be addressed under an OCP report. So I'm in favor of probably sort of three things

[2:16:42] Voice 10: on this being on this list. If we're going to have a list of things to do, let's have three of them.

[2:16:49] Voice 10: Let's see if we can do any of them. If we can't then move on from there. So

[2:16:53] Voice 10: So, I think we kind of owe it to the Wise Island

[2:16:58] Voice 10: for hosting all of this and to do that review

[2:17:01] Voice 10: of their OCP and land use bylaws pertaining to Wise Island.

[2:17:08] Voice 10: We've had enough discussion at this table about Wise Island

[2:17:12] Voice 10: and that's a minor project, right?

[2:17:17] Voice 10: That's correct, eh, Robert?

[2:17:18] Voice 1: Yes, it would be.

[2:17:19] Voice 10: Yeah.

[2:17:22] Voice 10: I want to see us still retain the review of time and trade regulations, right?

[2:17:30] Voice 10: But, you know, I think the most important thing here is to begin the planning of an OCP review.

[2:17:38] Voice 10: And the planning process is to lay out what this is going to cost, where are we going to get the funding,

[2:17:45] Voice 10: because we're going to have to go to the Executive and Trust Council for permission to do this, for approval to do this.

[2:17:52] Voice 10: And we're going to need to be able to find a budget. So there's going to be a bunch of work that needs to be taking place, just to map out whether we're going to be allowed to do this. And I think that's important work right now. I would love to hear from Robert on that.

[2:18:07] Voice 10: Yeah,

[2:18:08] Voice 1: I think you're to the chair, you're correct, Trustee Maberly. For an OCP review, that would be a major project. So you'd want to start preparing your business case by the summer. And like you say, identifying the sort of outlining the what you're considering in the OCP review, and attaching some costs to those and preparing your business case to submit to financial planning committee and trust accountants.

[2:18:37] Voice 1: Council by the fall. So that doesn't preclude doing a minor project in the meantime. While

[2:18:45] Voice 1: you start discussing your OCP reviews, the scope of your project and, and what sort of

[2:18:53] Voice 1: process you'd want to look at.

[2:18:56] Voice 10: And just because I'm curious, Justin Maberly, you said you were thinking three and you've

[2:19:02] Voice 10: you've identified two say they're not on this list well

[2:19:04] Voice 2: i mean the three

[2:19:05] Voice 10: are wise

[2:19:06] Voice 10: so i'm supposed to add that and then strike everything else because it would

[2:19:17] Voice 10: the rest would come under an ocp review i mean i like

[2:19:21] Voice 10: to have the tiny homes on there because

[2:19:22] Voice 10: we've heard from the crd director about the the want to put new regulations in and to identify

[2:19:30] Voice 10: identify where they're tied in those trailers and that could be where the regulations could

[2:19:36] Voice 10: be changed for rural areas like the Southern Hope Islands. So I think it's important to

[2:19:40] Voice 10: have that on the list so that discussion can happen between the CRD and the local trust

[2:19:45] Voice 10: committee. But I think everything else sort of falls under an OCP review. And I think

[2:19:52] Voice 10: as Robert said, mapping that out and making our business case is probably the most important

[2:19:58] Voice 10: that I would like to see Wise Island have.

[2:20:03] Voice 10: As

[2:20:03] Voice 6: a minor project?

[2:20:04] Voice 10: As a minor project, yeah, between now and then, yeah.

[2:20:06] Voice 6: I don't know.

[2:20:09] Voice 6: Is

[2:20:10] Voice 9: that the best use of our funds?

[2:20:14] Voice 9: I mean, what are we looking at?

[2:20:16] Voice 9: What if we take that off?

[2:20:17] Voice 9: What is that going to encompass?

[2:20:19] Voice 9: Like how much does that time?

[2:20:21] Voice 11: Yeah, so since the Wise Island is a minor project,

[2:20:25] Voice 11: that would be allocated to the item planner to focus on.

[2:20:29] Voice 11: but in something like this so uh you would then leave any direction to put wise islands or you

[2:20:36] Voice 11: know uh associate islands land use bylaw review something so not saying that there's going to be

[2:20:42] Voice 11: a separate bylaw but a review of smaller islands yeah and i would come back with a project charter

[2:20:49] Voice 11: for you to review and then after that you'd be going through the process of drafting a land use

[2:20:55] Voice 11: by law

[2:20:55] Voice 11: and again this is something that since there will not be a official community plan

[2:21:01] Voice 11: amendment you can wait not wait but you can give notice of first reading rather than holding a

[2:21:06] Voice 11: public hearing so it could go relatively quick

[2:21:09] Voice 9: but you know

[2:21:12] Voice 11: there there also is you know four

[2:21:15] Voice 11: or five major rezoning applications going on as well so if this is something the LTC is considering

[2:21:22] Voice 11: I would say give direction sooner rather than later, so we can build that in, because before

[2:21:26] Voice 11: you know it, a year and a half is quite a distance away.

[2:21:30] Voice 11: Yeah, exactly.

[2:21:31] Voice 11: Like thinking about the OCP review, and like I said, like find a case of action and resilience,

[2:21:37] Voice 11: right?

[2:21:37] Voice 11: That's a huge piece of what we do, and a lot of the items on

[2:21:41] Voice 9: the follow-up action list

[2:21:42] Voice 9: and the future projects list are that.

[2:21:44] Voice 9: Like ideas are not considered green energy reliance.

[2:21:47] Voice 9: I mean, this is what's happening all the time, you know,

[2:21:52] Voice 11: they are smaller, um, yeah, they're,

[2:21:55] Voice 11: they're, they're not like small blocks. They have these, uh, constraints on their properties that

[2:21:59] Voice 11: are not built by other, uh, that we feel that are going out. Uh, but they are good solutions for,

[2:22:06] Voice 11: for energy airlines, which is going to help us

[2:22:09] Voice 9: overall. So I would favor, um, um, yeah,

[2:22:15] Voice 9: have a project around you know smaller lots smaller yeah yeah i'm

[2:22:23] Voice 10: going to turn very targeted

[2:22:24] Voice 10: you know

[2:22:25] Voice 10: we've heard this from the the outer islands that this just needs to be a target

[2:22:30] Voice 10: around the solar panels and then the shore accesses yeah and

[2:22:34] Voice 10: i think we could do that

[2:22:35] Voice 10: very targeted um i the one thing i want to make clear here is our job is to process applications

[2:22:45] Voice 10: they are the most important thing right i mean i don't think we sacrifice our applications to do

[2:22:50] Voice 10: projects but um if we were to move ahead on a minor project i think looking at the other islands

[2:22:58] Voice 10: and doing a targeted review on solar panels and shore accesses yeah i'd be good with that

[2:23:06] Voice 6: also i think that the apca has done a tremendous amount of work on this

[2:23:10] Voice 6: all right so i think that we've already gone down this path so far i

[2:23:15] Voice 11: think we should create it yeah

[2:23:18] Voice 11: so that sounds like the ltc would then putting before two motions the first one the first one

[2:23:26] Voice 11: would be um by moving the wise island or this i don't know

[2:23:32] Voice 11: associate associated islands land use

[2:23:35] Voice 11: bylaw review as its top priority I believe is the key word or active project so that would be the

[2:23:46] Voice 11: first motion and for staff to report back with the draft project charter and then your second motion

[2:23:53] Voice 11: would be changing the future projects list to remove most of these and by adding OCP review

[2:24:01] Voice 11: review where then you want to I know a cp review you can include emergency access planning to view

[2:24:06] Voice 11: the road network and so forth identify some of the topics you may want to yeah

[2:24:23] Voice 10: so I just have a couple of sort of mostly just questions for the trustees in terms

[2:24:31] Voice 10: of two bits, I guess.

[2:24:34] Voice 10: One in terms, it sounds like you guys

[2:24:37] Voice 10: are very much on the same page.

[2:24:40] Voice 10: In terms of the options around community engagement,

[2:24:44] Voice 10: is that something that feels necessary

[2:24:47] Voice 10: before we sort of put that energy

[2:24:51] Voice 10: into designating other projects,

[2:24:55] Voice 10: or like, it's just an open question.

[2:24:59] Voice 10: um and then the other bit would be that if if there's a consideration of essentially removing

[2:25:08] Voice 10: um or sort of subsuming most of what's on the list under under a major project um

[2:25:16] Voice 10: trustee baberly identified two that he think could come off entirely that shouldn't be in an

[2:25:21] Voice 10: ocp project um but just maybe we should hash that out a little bit too so can we just uh

[2:25:28] Voice 10: back up a little bit yeah are you are you both uh at a stage where it sounds like you're both

[2:25:35] Voice 10: on the same page in terms of um the minor project yeah and wanting to proceed with that yeah i think

[2:25:42] Voice 10: i think for me i'm ready for a motion on um you know um as kim stated

[2:25:53] Voice 10: I'm

[2:25:53] Voice 9: almost there on

[2:25:57] Voice 10: a draft motion just to let you know and then so should we yeah and

[2:26:03] Voice 6: definitely I agree I should take off some items one and two the future projects this

[2:26:08] Voice 6: I totally agree with that okay

[2:26:10] Voice 10: so let's do this first let's I'll move that the Galleon

[2:26:17] Voice 10: uh local trust committee amend the active uh future projects list by removing items

[2:26:32] Voice 10: uh i'm just going to call them items one and two and

[2:26:36] Voice 10: that should be fairly obvious with that we're removing items one and two um and i'm gonna say

[2:27:01] Voice 10: and one two and seven which is the wise island so one of the public moving wise

[2:27:08] Voice 10: so one one two and seven we're moving them from the uh future projects list actually let's just

[2:27:33] Voice 10: just do it like that i'll just make that motion and then we'll make two more motions just to make

[2:27:36] Voice 10: it simpler so i'll just check in with uh lisa millard and see if you captured that motion

[2:27:44] Voice 5: yes chair peterson i have that okay

[2:27:47] Voice 10: so that's just a really simple one and then we'll then

[2:27:49] Voice 10: we'll do the reassignment afterwards yeah so i've made the motion uh trustee mabry second

[2:27:56] Voice 10: second yeah discussion all in

[2:27:58] Voice 10: favor okay that carries now part two i move that um seven from

[2:28:12] Voice 10: the list uh i i second i

[2:28:18] Voice 8: move that galiano island local trust committee add

[2:28:24] Voice 10: to its active projects

[2:28:26] Voice 10: list as a minor project associated islands ocplub review if

[2:28:41] Voice 11: you could call it the associate islands

[2:28:43] Voice 11: regulations review

[2:28:44] Voice 10: regulations review perfect thank you i'll just double check to say in regards

[2:28:50] Voice 10: to or is that fine that's fine okay and

[2:28:54] Voice 11: for staff to report

[2:28:56] Voice 11: back with the draft the draft

[2:28:59] Voice 10: Okay. Hold on a second. Lisa, I know you're awesome, but can you just read us back

[2:29:06] Voice 10: what you've got out of our model?

[2:29:09] Voice 5: That the Galliano Island Local Trust Committee add to

[2:29:12] Voice 5: its active projects list as a minor project associated islands regulations review and for

[2:29:18] Voice 5: staff to report back with a draft project charter.

[2:29:21] Voice 10: Fantastic. Seconded by Trustee Maverly.

[2:29:24] Voice 10: discussion all those in favor carry and now thirdly items three four five six and eight

[2:29:43] Voice 10: from the report that the galliano uh island local trust committee um request that staff

[2:30:01] Voice 10: Shall we start right off? I'll just stop for a minute.

[2:30:05] Voice 10: Should we start right off with asking for a business case?

[2:30:12] Voice 9: I'm

[2:30:13] Voice 10: just checking with staff.

[2:30:15] Voice 10: Yes,

[2:30:15] Voice 11: at least. Robert, is that correct? A business case at this point?

[2:30:18] Voice 1: So you can ask staff to come back with options and recommendations.

[2:30:24] Voice 10: Okay. For the preparation

[2:30:25] Voice 1: of a business case

[2:30:26] Voice 1: for an OCP review. Something along those lines.

[2:30:29] Voice 1: Yeah, okay.

[2:30:31] Voice 10: I'll move that.

[2:30:33] Voice 10: Okay. Lisa, what have you got out of that?

[2:30:37] Voice 5: The Galliano Island Local Trust Committee requests staff prepare options and recommendations for the preparation of a business case for an official community plan review.

[2:30:48] Voice 10: I'll move that.

[2:30:49] Voice 10: Fantastic.

[2:30:50] Voice 10: Yeah,

[2:30:50] Voice 6: do you want to say targeted?

[2:30:52] Voice 10: And I was just going to double check with staff.

[2:30:55] Voice 10: can we take it as um understood that um the item seven and item one and two wouldn't be on that

[2:31:06] Voice 10: but that the rest of those items would be assumed to be part of that that's correct okay great

[2:31:12] Voice 10: so then uh that's moved by trustee maberly seconded by entrusting of rome any further discussion

[2:31:20] Voice 9: Seeing

[2:31:21] Voice 10: any I'll call the question all those in favor, and that carries.

[2:31:26] Voice 10: Okay, anything further, trustees, staff in terms of direction.

[2:31:33] Voice 9: Well, from the last OCP review we did, it's been feedback that I've gotten from many people.

[2:31:45] Voice 9: that were kind of targeted to different areas so that seemed to work very well

[2:31:57] Voice 1: yep through the chair that's correct um so that'll be some of the options we'd report back on

[2:32:02] Voice 1: is is uh how we would like to conduct the ocp review great

[2:32:08] Voice 9: i think with

[2:32:09] Voice 9: the uh the ocp

[2:32:10] Voice 6: the view of them like looking at the cultural heritage and indigenous archaeological preservation

[2:32:18] Voice 6: would be a really uh

[2:32:19] Voice 9: our community is ready for this conversation i think we've seen it

[2:32:24] Voice 9: evidence in the discussions here um we have a lot to say right and a lot of information sharing that

[2:32:31] Voice 9: can happen a lot of awareness

[2:32:32] Voice 6: around what could happen um exploring areas of exploring potential

[2:32:38] Voice 6: potential for heritage conservation areas,

[2:32:40] Voice 6: and aligning those with First Nations recommendations,

[2:32:43] Voice 9: and ensuring that the OCP supports co-governance

[2:32:46] Voice 9: opportunities in the future.

[2:32:48] Voice 9: I think that we're even kind of aligning

[2:32:52] Voice 9: with the regional efforts that are ongoing right now.

[2:32:55] Voice 9: And it does really important things

[2:32:57] Voice 9: that have to take place in our association.

[2:33:02] Voice 10: Yeah, okay.

[2:33:04] Voice 10: Okay, so nothing further on this item today?

[2:33:07] Voice 10: all right in that case that brings us back to 18.3 which the trustee local expense report

[2:33:16] Voice 10: the september 2024 anything on that today and thank you mr kojima nothing today

[2:33:25] Voice 9: thank you

[2:33:27] Voice 10: and then we have our adopted policies and standing resolutions report so on page 66 for information

[2:33:34] Voice 10: I don't have any further information.

[2:33:38] Voice 10: Anything.

[2:33:40] Voice 10: I want to remove.

[2:33:44] Voice 10: This in the Adobe Kansas one.

[2:33:49] Voice 10: Resolutions.

[2:33:51] Voice 10: The cannabis.

[2:33:55] Voice 10: Cannabis retail.

[2:33:57] Voice 10: Okay.

[2:33:58] Voice 10: That

[2:33:59] Voice 6: may have been missed.

[2:34:01] Voice 6: the number of the odds yeah

[2:34:03] Voice 8: it is still on the list yeah okay i

[2:34:08] Voice 6: will have that updated

[2:34:09] Voice 8: okay that's for us thank you

[2:34:25] Voice 8: okay anything on the web page

[2:34:28] Voice 6: um i did have a question about the mapping what's happening with the mapping

[2:34:35] Voice 11: it's a very good question i

[2:34:38] Voice 6: don't

[2:34:39] Voice 11: yeah i don't have a full report um i understand that there

[2:34:42] Voice 11: has been hiring recently done um and i don't know the formal name of it but i know there's

[2:34:48] Voice 11: been recent hiring in hopes that the mapping will be improved um but to date we don't have

[2:34:55] Voice 11: From what I understand, an external use of mapping service for the LTC and community members, but if there's something specific you require to email the mapping department. Great, thank you.

[2:35:10] Voice 3: Nice talk, though.

[2:35:11] Voice 11: Yeah, sorry. Just going back to the resolution or standing resolution. So at the last meeting, it was actually removing the cannabis retail production from the future projects list.

[2:35:34] Voice 10: We have no islands

[2:35:40] Voice 8: trust conservancy report today and

[2:35:43] Voice 10: so our next meeting is scheduled

[2:35:49] Voice 10: for April 8th right here and then we have a town hall schedule. Anyone in the audience?

[2:36:04] Voice 10: Pull up a chair and address the local trust committee.

[2:36:08] Voice 10: Thanks for moving forward unwise. Too long, too years.

[2:36:12] Voice 10: years yeah no i appreciate that kim and i were talking on the way here today that uh sometimes

[2:36:21] Voice 10: the glacial pace um let us say of a lot of things can be very it's been difficult and really

[2:36:31] Voice 10: frustrating and um sometimes it's just reality like we have to finish a before we can start b

[2:36:39] Voice 10: your seat and and frustrating as that is uh i'm i'm happy that we we are have finished that the

[2:36:47] Voice 10: groundwater project and that we're freeing up our staff time to be able to start doing other things

[2:36:54] Voice 10: that are clearly desired by members of the community so that's that's a good thing uh

[2:37:01] Voice 10: Mr. Chair, can we just ask a question of staff going back to an application, just for personal clarification.

[2:37:10] Voice 10: I'm seeing a nod.

[2:37:13] Voice 10: The Walker-Pellet application for District Lot 14, the old Fibermax property,

[2:37:22] Voice 10: there was mention that the possible trail through the property was no longer on the table.

[2:37:31] Voice 10: was not going to happen there what was the reason for that and i asked only because i used to use it

[2:37:37] Voice 10: well it

[2:37:40] Voice 11: could be deemed as a safety issue for those who are walking on the property since there

[2:37:45] Voice 11: it's also there's going to be a forestry covenant obviously on the property and also concerned with

[2:37:52] Voice 11: people walking across the property and reliability for the property owner as well yeah um so there's

[2:37:58] Voice 11: that to consider and um i don't so that's the main consideration there yeah yeah okay

[2:38:05] Voice 10: no it was just

[2:38:07] Voice 10: that uh you know for my days on parks and rec at one time it was floated as good location to link

[2:38:16] Voice 10: uh sticks allison the residence is there with a back trail for kids and some of those visitors

[2:38:24] Voice 10: visitors to come up to the business area during the summer is far safer than walking on a

[2:38:29] Voice 10: four-way pass road and galloping out of

[2:38:32] Voice 10: the way, for example.

[2:38:33] Voice 10: I think one of the things that sort of really sort of put a damper on that was the BC Hydro

[2:38:40] Voice 10: lot, which used to be the access as well, and they're very firm about absolutely no

[2:38:45] Voice 10: trespass on their lot.

[2:38:46] Voice 10: So it kind of cut that portion of the trail off.

[2:38:49] Voice 9: Yeah.

[2:38:49] Voice 9: And

[2:38:49] Voice 10: then so you're sort of, you could have a trail, but it's sort of just a trail in

[2:38:53] Voice 10: the middle of nowhere right

[2:38:54] Voice 11: yeah it'll still be referred to the crd so we'll get those

[2:38:59] Voice 11: no it's just one of those

[2:39:01] Voice 10: nice things to have in

[2:39:03] Voice 10: a small neighborhood

[2:39:05] Voice 10: yeah and i think there's still a possibility even with all the covenants on it that then

[2:39:10] Voice 10: the community or the um committee can sit down with the applicant and try and work out a

[2:39:19] Voice 10: possibly the trailer from you know even up by the industrial

[2:39:24] Voice 10: site down and down through the

[2:39:26] Voice 10: you know by the uh i also

[2:39:29] Voice 6: remember the neighbors from the salamanca there the neighbors didn't want

[2:39:33] Voice 10: yeah that's

[2:39:36] Voice 6: the consideration because there's a piece

[2:39:37] Voice 10: of land there as well

[2:39:38] Voice 6: so that's the same

[2:39:39] Voice 6: when

[2:39:39] Voice 10: we get to the emergency access as well yeah i mean there may be a desire to have emergency

[2:39:44] Voice 10: access there. But the feasibility of it ever being completed are virtually nil. Yeah. And so, you know, is it fair to the applicant at that point to say, you know, we want you to designate it when we have no clue where it would go and what it would look like?

[2:40:01] Voice 10: Chair recognizes Director Grant.

[2:40:08] Voice 10: It provides liability insurance and there's over 11 kilometers on Gallaudet Island.

[2:40:14] Voice 10: Private lands that have GITS liabilities.

[2:40:17] Voice 4: But an important

[2:40:19] Voice 10: note there is that that's on land that you've been given permission on.

[2:40:22] Voice 10: So if there's a chunk in the middle area that you haven't been given permission on, then that liability doesn't hold, right?

[2:40:27] Voice 10: Yeah. Well, we could all be part of this release application.

[2:40:37] Voice 10: I mean, it is funny. You don't realize when these applications come forward,

[2:40:42] Voice 10: the amount of people that have used different properties in different ways.

[2:40:46] Voice 10: And, you know, they sort of go, oh, what about this?

[2:40:48] Voice 10: Okay. We do have a closed meeting scheduled.

[2:41:01] Voice 10: And so there's a motion here that the meeting be closed to the public in accordance with Community Charter, Part 4, Division 3, S90-1A,

[2:41:14] Voice 10: a personal information about an identified individual who holds or is being considered for a position of an officer,

[2:41:21] Voice 10: employee, or agent of a municipality, or another position appointed by a municipality, and that the recorder and staff attend the meeting.

[2:41:29] Voice 10: so moved second by trustee cabrón any discussion

[2:41:33] Voice 10: we'll solve the question all those in favor motion carries and we'll take a moment for the

[2:41:41] Voice 10: thank you for one remaining member

[2:41:43] Voice 10: of the public to uh the king of the premises

[2:41:50] Voice 10: Okay, so we're coming back

[2:41:52] Voice 8: from our in-camera meeting, and I will rise and report that we

[2:42:01] Voice 8: have adopted

[2:42:01] Voice 10: the in-camera minutes of December 12th, 2024, I believe is correct, not 2023.

[2:42:11] Voice 10: Is that right?

[2:42:12] Voice 10: Right. And

[2:42:14] Voice 8: that the Galliano Island Local Trust Committee has appointed Karen Harris, Danica Bergen,

[2:42:29] Voice 10: General Gerald Blomson, General Ferdinand Margison, Jillian

[2:42:33] Voice 8: Dusting, Jen Helson and Art Moses

[2:42:37] Voice 10: to the Galliano Island Advisory Planning Commission,

[2:42:42] Voice 10: commencing immediately for a term ending February 1st, 2027.

[2:42:48] Voice 10: Okay.

[2:42:50] Voice 10: And that is it for the rise and report.

[2:42:54] Voice 10: And then I'm going to share the screen so I can get this.

[2:43:04] Voice 10: So I'll just go ahead and make the motion because it's easier.

[2:43:07] Voice 10: So I move that the meeting be closed to the public in accordance with the

[2:43:10] Voice 10: community charter part four, division three, section 91G.

[2:43:15] Voice 10: A litigation or

[2:43:16] Voice 8: potential litigation affecting the municipality and that the recorder and staff attend the meeting

[2:43:22] Voice 10: move seconded any discussion call for the question. All those in favor and the motion carries. So we'll just wait until that.

[2:43:34] Voice 10: Okay.