Denman Island Local Trust Committee special meeting, July 15, 2025

[0:00:00] Voice 10: All righty. Good morning, everybody. Thank you for joining us today for this regular

[0:00:05] Voice 10: meeting of the Denman Island Local Trust Committee. I want to begin the meeting by acknowledging

[0:00:09] Voice 10: that we're fortunate to be able to gather today in locations across the territory of

[0:00:13] Voice 10: the Coast Salish people. I'm David Maude, elected on Main Island, chair of the Denman

[0:00:17] Voice 10: Island Local Trust Committee. I'm joined today by Denman Island's trustees, David Graham

[0:00:22] Voice 10: and Sam Borthwick. Together, we make the Denman Island Local Trust Committee. This meeting

[0:00:28] Voice 10: being live streamed or recorded for those who are unable to attend in person today.

[0:00:31] Voice 10: The recording will be posted to the Islands Trust website for future viewing.

[0:00:35] Voice 10: We have some staff members joining us today. We have Lisa Millard, who is our web host,

[0:00:41] Voice 10: much appreciated. We have Planner Marls McHarger, who is our Island Planner. We have Warren Digman

[0:00:48] Voice 10: from By-law Enforcement. And I note that Trustee Gavreau has joined us, which I assume is to give

[0:00:55] Voice 10: us a little bit of an update on the islands trust conservancy and i see the nurse of chadwick um

[0:01:01] Voice 10: minor chadwick from our victoria office and our housing specialist has also joined us today for

[0:01:06] Voice 10: the meeting um so we have a a wide-bred uh contingent today so it should be a very

[0:01:12] Voice 10: productive meeting um i just want to conclude by saying this meeting is an official forum

[0:01:19] Voice 10: for a local trust committee to make decisions about land use planning matters and discuss

[0:01:23] Voice 10: cost relative business. All right. So the first thing we have on our agenda is the approval of

[0:01:29] Voice 10: our agenda. So trustees, are there any additions, deletions, any comments on this? So by general

[0:01:35] Voice 10: consent, we will adopt the agenda. The ayes have it. Okay. So first on the agenda here is trustee

[0:01:42] Voice 10: reports. So who wants to be the first to contribute to our knowledge? I don't seem very eager.

[0:01:58] Voice 3: Well it's summertime which is generally a quiet time for local trust committees

[0:02:05] Voice 3: although I can report and I don't want to steal our chair's thunder but the community of the

[0:02:10] Voice 3: whole meeting was very successful in finalizing the proposed edits that will go to trust council

[0:02:17] Voice 3: on Gabriel although I think we're also having a special meeting of the community of the whole

[0:02:22] Voice 3: on late in July to give first reading

[0:02:25] Voice 3: or to, I didn't know we could do that.

[0:02:27] Voice 3: But anyway, first reading is good

[0:02:28] Voice 3: because that then allows that document

[0:02:31] Voice 3: to go out to the public

[0:02:32] Voice 3: and various other agencies

[0:02:33] Voice 3: for review and comments.

[0:02:35] Voice 3: And I'm looking forward

[0:02:36] Voice 3: to hearing those comments

[0:02:37] Voice 3: at some time in the fall.

[0:02:39] Voice 3: I did attend as a, on a personal note,

[0:02:42] Voice 3: more as an individual

[0:02:43] Voice 3: rather than a trustee,

[0:02:44] Voice 3: the open house of the SNAG.

[0:02:48] Voice 3: That's the delegate today.

[0:02:49] Voice 3: today. So that was an interesting experience and I enjoyed hearing their proposal. Other than that,

[0:02:57] Voice 3: I know there's quite a lot of community concern about the work that has been undergoing on the

[0:03:05] Voice 3: top end of the island, a proposed winery. Although anecdotally, I have heard that they may be in

[0:03:11] Voice 3: receivership at this point. Staff have been let off and various other equipment has been seized.

[0:03:17] Voice 3: so who knows what's going on there anyway that's my report thank you

[0:03:23] Voice 10: exciting trustee forthwick

[0:03:26] Voice 10: yeah

[0:03:28] Voice 6: um yeah definitely somewhat quieter times uh as a trustee although as david says we we had

[0:03:36] Voice 6: the committee of the whole the other week to talk about the policy statement which i'm likewise

[0:03:41] Voice 6: Glad to be seeing move out into the public sphere.

[0:03:46] Voice 6: And yeah, I'm glad I'll be looking forward to seeing what comes from that process.

[0:03:53] Voice 6: And yeah, I was also pleased to attend the snag presentation day this last Sunday.

[0:04:02] Voice 6: I think there's some interesting things discussed and obviously it's going to be something we're

[0:04:07] Voice 6: talking about a little more today.

[0:04:08] Voice 6: day um and yeah other than that i'm very busy driving a bus and doing all those things so

[0:04:15] Voice 6: that's all there and uh and yeah also uh welcome uh trustee slash chair govro to our little local

[0:04:24] Voice 6: trust committee meeting most

[0:04:26] Voice 10: excellent all right so yes indeed you guys have stolen my thunder um

[0:04:31] Voice 10: the trust policy statement is winding its way to first reading um uh very pleased with the

[0:04:38] Voice 10: conversations that we've had at many many meetings um i i think that we've developed a document

[0:04:44] Voice 10: um that we're very comfortable to put out into the public realm to seek further comments and

[0:04:51] Voice 10: further drafts and further meetings um but i'm optimistic we're going to get it done in the next

[0:04:58] Voice 10: year um it's been going on for a very long time which i not necessarily a great thing but not a

[0:05:07] Voice 10: a bad thing, because I think this is how you produce good work, is that you listen to everybody,

[0:05:13] Voice 10: you consolidate everything, and you get into a document that people are comfortable with.

[0:05:18] Voice 10: It may not be perfect, but it will be done. And I do appreciate everybody's input on that.

[0:05:23] Voice 10: Of course, we had Trust Council in June on Salt Spring, which was, again, a very productive

[0:05:29] Voice 10: meeting. It is great to get together with our fellow trustees. The meetings are very,

[0:05:38] Voice 10: very important, but the times before, in between, and after the meetings are also very valuable

[0:05:45] Voice 10: because the ability for the trustees to socialize and network and discuss common issues and common

[0:05:52] Voice 10: problems you know it's really valued it makes the organization work and it's I

[0:06:00] Voice 10: I hope we can continue doing in person it's at times it's controversial because

[0:06:07] Voice 10: it does cost money but in the scheme of things it's less than one percent of our

[0:06:13] Voice 10: budget practice it's it's I think it's money well spent um other than that is

[0:06:21] Voice 10: Southern Gulf Islands, from my part of the world, it's been so busy.

[0:06:27] Voice 10: There's so many things going on.

[0:06:31] Voice 10: The communities are really, really bursting at the seams right now.

[0:06:36] Voice 10: Every weekend, all summer, there are events.

[0:06:39] Voice 10: There are things going on.

[0:06:41] Voice 10: Lots of smiles, lots of enthusiasm.

[0:06:45] Voice 10: And I'm glad that we are living in bright and vibrant communities.

[0:06:49] Voice 10: and I think that will do that for my enthusiastic positive chairs report um I don't see our

[0:06:57] Voice 10: director here so I guess Daniel hopefully will come to our next meeting and next on we have

[0:07:03] Voice 10: Island's Trust Conservancy report and I see Chair Gavreau is here so I will hand the rings over to

[0:07:09] Voice 10: Trustee Gavreau or Chair Gavreau to give us an Island's Trust Conservancy report

[0:07:14] Voice 10: board good

[0:07:15] Voice 4: morning good morning everyone it's great to see everybody um thank you for having

[0:07:20] Voice 4: me i'm joining you from galliano island which is a nice beautiful sunny morning so far uh which is

[0:07:27] Voice 4: core territory to the penelope tribe um this is where i serve as local trustee and i am the chair

[0:07:32] Voice 4: of the allen's trust conservancy board uh it's been a busy and meaningful few months at the

[0:07:38] Voice 4: the Conservancy. I'll share a few highlights and just some recent board meeting topics and some of

[0:07:45] Voice 4: that broader work that we're doing across the region. This year marks the Islands Trust

[0:07:51] Voice 4: Conservancy's 35th anniversary. That's 35 years of celebrating conservation in the trust area.

[0:08:00] Voice 4: We're taking some time right now to reflect on what that work has meant, not just in terms of

[0:08:05] Voice 4: protected places, but in terms of relationships and partnerships and the trust built over time.

[0:08:12] Voice 4: Working with people and communities, the Allen Trust Conservancy has been entrusted

[0:08:17] Voice 4: with the protection of 115 private properties, totaling over 1,380 hectares,

[0:08:23] Voice 4: and through 81 conservation covenants and 34 nature reserves. To mark our anniversary,

[0:08:32] Voice 4: We're launching a campaign in January with a media release, followed by a social media campaign, which has so far reached over 40,000 people.

[0:08:43] Voice 4: Pretty good.

[0:08:45] Voice 4: Print ads in local newspapers are across the islands, so we'll continue throughout the year.

[0:08:51] Voice 4: And at June Trust Council on Salt Spring, we hosted a slideshow presentation and enjoyed cupcakes.

[0:08:56] Voice 4: cakes. We also launched The Journal, our new online blog sharing deeper stories around

[0:09:05] Voice 4: conservation. There's 10 blog posts that are already lined up, including features on species

[0:09:12] Voice 4: at risk, donor contributions, and two stories already directly related to the 35th. Our Heron

[0:09:21] Voice 4: newsletter is also just launched this spring uh reaches over 800 subscribers um that's 150

[0:09:28] Voice 4: plus 150 organizations and households uh we're planning to present at fall fairs and local

[0:09:34] Voice 4: events across the areas uh across the islands in august and september and we'll be making a point

[0:09:40] Voice 4: to get out to meet people where they are i see that the newsletter is part of your agenda package

[0:09:45] Voice 4: today. It's a good reading. But the real exciting news you might have seen in the news lately is

[0:09:52] Voice 4: that the Islands Trust Conservancy has received a $1.15 million donation to support our work in

[0:09:58] Voice 4: the trust area. This is one of the largest private donations in our history and will support both

[0:10:05] Voice 4: acquisitions and long-term care of protected areas. The generosity of this anonymous donor

[0:10:12] Voice 4: owner reflects not only our love for these islands but a deep trust in our mission of voluntary

[0:10:18] Voice 4: partnership driven conservation as well as our vision network of protected natural areas preserved

[0:10:25] Voice 4: in perpetuity of the total donation one million will be dedicated to the island trust conservancy's

[0:10:32] Voice 4: opportunity fund a fund used to financially support hard to raise for fundraising costs

[0:10:39] Voice 4: costs like around land protection and stewardship projects over the last 20 years since its creation

[0:10:47] Voice 4: donations to the opportunity fund have helped support the protection of ecologically and

[0:10:53] Voice 4: culturally significant lands to a value of over 69 million dollars the donor also allocated an

[0:11:01] Voice 4: additional 157 300 to the islands trust conservancy's property management fund

[0:11:08] Voice 4: which supports the ongoing care of protected areas that have been entrusted to the Conservancy.

[0:11:14] Voice 4: This includes on-the-ground land management activities, such as removing invasive species,

[0:11:21] Voice 4: restoring ecosystems, maintaining trails on nature reserves.

[0:11:26] Voice 4: We sincerely and heartily thank this donor. Thank you.

[0:11:30] Voice 4: At our May board meeting, we supported a motion to begin work on a formal agreement with the SART and SACIM First Nations through the WSANIC Leadership Council.

[0:11:43] Voice 4: This follows similar direction given to staff by the Executive Committee.

[0:11:48] Voice 4: The intent is to develop a clear, respectful, and mutually beneficial working relationship focused on the areas within the Conservancy's jurisdiction.

[0:11:57] Voice 4: jurisdiction. There is discussion about whether this agreement might proceed through the Wissanik

[0:12:02] Voice 4: Lands Conservancy Society, which already has a strong connection with our wonderful staff.

[0:12:09] Voice 4: Staff will be working with legal counsel as the agreement takes shape, and a meeting is planned

[0:12:14] Voice 4: with Wissanik Leadership Council later this summer to discuss next steps. This is a significant piece

[0:12:20] Voice 4: of work and one we're approaching with care. Currently, we are navigating several staffing

[0:12:27] Voice 4: transitions. We're welcoming Carly Ashton, a co-ops assistant, a student assistant

[0:12:33] Voice 4: and for helping us with fieldwork and ecological monitoring over the summer.

[0:12:38] Voice 4: Our administrative assistant position is vacant after Coraline Strachan has

[0:12:43] Voice 4: moved on to an executive support role. Recruitment is underway for that

[0:12:48] Voice 4: position and congratulations to Coraline. We are hiring a team lead protected area

[0:12:54] Voice 4: protected area management to provide additional support to the property management team and to

[0:13:02] Voice 4: help support the manager of the ITC. Interviews are in progress and our communications specialist

[0:13:09] Voice 4: Michaela Yanni has resigned to pursue her educational goals. Recruitment for that role

[0:13:16] Voice 4: will begin shortly and a big thank you to Michaela for her excellent contributions in our communications

[0:13:21] Voice 4: work. Despite all these transitions, ITC staff

[0:13:25] Voice 4: are doing a remarkable job keeping the work moving

[0:13:29] Voice 4: forward. Also from our May meeting, we approved our

[0:13:34] Voice 4: contribution to the ANOVA report,

[0:13:37] Voice 4: which has now been approved by Trust Council and submitted to the Minister.

[0:13:42] Voice 4: On Gabriola, we supported infrastructure upgrades to

[0:13:45] Voice 4: provincial groundwater monitoring well at the Elder Cedar

[0:13:50] Voice 4: our nature reserve and this will lead to negotiating a new access agreement with the

[0:13:56] Voice 4: province and with the covenant holders. Also, our board unanimously passed a motion directing

[0:14:02] Voice 4: staff or requesting staff actually to prepare the 2026-27 budget request. Fantastic. Yeah,

[0:14:13] Voice 4: as always, our work is rooted in relationships with landholders, communities, Indigenous nations,

[0:14:20] Voice 4: and with all of you.

[0:14:21] Voice 4: As we mark 35 years of conservation,

[0:14:24] Voice 4: we are also looking ahead.

[0:14:25] Voice 4: The next 35 years will no doubt bring challenges,

[0:14:28] Voice 4: but also opportunities for us

[0:14:31] Voice 4: to do meaningful work together.

[0:14:33] Voice 4: Thank you again for inviting me to speak today.

[0:14:35] Voice 4: I'm always glad to share the work

[0:14:37] Voice 4: of the Isles Trust Conservancy.

[0:14:40] Voice 10: Thank you very much, Chair Gavriel.

[0:14:42] Voice 10: That's a really positive, in-depth report.

[0:14:46] Voice 10: And hopefully you will be joining us again.

[0:14:48] Voice 10: Again, it's nice to hear from the other sections of the trust that sometimes we don't pay enough attention to.

[0:14:56] Voice 10: So thank you again for attending.

[0:14:57] Voice 4: Thank you, guys.

[0:14:58] Voice 4: Thank you.

[0:14:59] Voice 4: I hope I'm losing my voice a little bit.

[0:15:01] Voice 4: Sorry.

[0:15:01] Voice 4: I'm breaking up.

[0:15:03] Voice 10: Too many meetings.

[0:15:04] Voice 4: Yeah, you guys have a great meeting and a wonderful summer.

[0:15:07] Voice 10: All right.

[0:15:08] Voice 10: Thank you again.

[0:15:09] Voice 4: Thank you.

[0:15:09] Voice 4: Bye-bye.

[0:15:11] Voice 10: All right.

[0:15:11] Voice 10: So now we have public comments.

[0:15:13] Voice 10: We normally allocate about three minutes per person to discuss issues relevant to local trust committee.

[0:15:22] Voice 10: If anybody wishes to speak, you can hopefully raise your digital hand, and then Lisa will promote you across.

[0:15:32] Voice 10: I know we struggle with this at times.

[0:15:35] Voice 10: but if anybody is interested in speaking if you read raise your digital hand which is sometimes

[0:15:46] Voice 10: not easy is always actually on this meeting it is sometimes you have to hunt for it but anyhow

[0:15:52] Voice 10: I see Chris Lindsay there if you Lisa if you want to promote Chris across and we will take

[0:15:58] Voice 10: your comments thank you so chris if you unmute yourself you can go ahead hello

[0:16:21] Voice 2: excellent

[0:16:22] Voice 11: yeah

[0:16:24] Voice 2: i like the technology

[0:16:25] Voice 11: works perfect

[0:16:27] Voice 5: i um i have you on one screen and the other if you see me

[0:16:31] Voice 5: turning my head you'll you'll know why so um thank you so much this morning i would like to voice um

[0:16:38] Voice 5: some concerns and seek some clarification from the Islands Trust. I own a house on Denman Island

[0:16:48] Voice 5: and I welcome affordable housing and all the work that the Housing Review Committee has done to

[0:16:53] Voice 5: identify issues on Denman Island. There are important, valued, productive members of our

[0:16:59] Voice 5: community who need stable, healthy and safe housing. And Denman Green is a notable example

[0:17:05] Voice 5: example of a group working to provide that in a monumental way for the island my concern is on

[0:17:12] Voice 5: pre-zoning land prior to the updating of the official community plan and rezoning of the

[0:17:18] Voice 5: island to meet the needs of that plan I'm a little unclear how pre-zoning works however we are right

[0:17:26] Voice 5: in the middle of discussing new zoning housing density cluster housing and other things that

[0:17:34] Voice 5: will be going and be discussed later in the agenda and and i feel that we need to follow

[0:17:41] Voice 5: through on that plan before pre-zoning any other land on denman without full community engagement

[0:17:47] Voice 5: as planned and as being discussed on land use density banks and defining cluster housing

[0:17:54] Voice 5: the land trust committee really cannot pre-zone 5400 northwest road it will limit the input later

[0:18:02] Voice 5: later in the process as housing plans are agreed to.

[0:18:05] Voice 5: It overrides an area of Denman that's designated RE

[0:18:09] Voice 5: and without a plan for allocation of densities

[0:18:12] Voice 5: may disturb the overall balance of our land.

[0:18:16] Voice 5: Additionally, the Land Trust Committee must be clear

[0:18:18] Voice 5: on how zoning works in a new community plan.

[0:18:23] Voice 5: Is it appropriate to allow someone or a corporation,

[0:18:27] Voice 5: not necessarily this proposal, but potentially others,

[0:18:30] Voice 5: others to seek the best of every bylaw ALR to allow camping cluster to allow density and

[0:18:39] Voice 5: conservation to protect land these all seem to be at odds with each other in my perspective

[0:18:46] Voice 5: especially regarding 5400 Northwest Road the owners state how many people the land can support

[0:18:53] Voice 5: and yet the proposal far exceeds that number let's be honest density appears to be proposed

[0:19:00] Voice 5: based on revenue generation, not land sensitivity,

[0:19:05] Voice 5: and preserving the rural feel of Denman.

[0:19:08] Voice 5: And this was stated at the community meeting this weekend.

[0:19:12] Voice 5: If this is allowed, then cluster housing

[0:19:14] Voice 5: may not always benefit the people of Denman,

[0:19:16] Voice 5: but may be to the benefit of landowners.

[0:19:20] Voice 5: Lastly, I wish to express my concerns

[0:19:23] Voice 5: about limiting square footage on private land.

[0:19:26] Voice 5: I'm not sure where the LTC derived the square footage size

[0:19:30] Voice 5: that will be proposed later in this meeting.

[0:19:33] Voice 5: This is excessively big brother.

[0:19:37] Voice 5: Having recently built here,

[0:19:38] Voice 5: housing costs alone reduce the footprints of houses.

[0:19:41] Voice 5: Regulating house size

[0:19:43] Voice 5: to alter the housing market resale value

[0:19:45] Voice 5: is not aligned to the freedom of choice

[0:19:48] Voice 5: that other people on Denman wish to have.

[0:19:51] Voice 5: Large houses require help

[0:19:53] Voice 5: and landowners with larger houses

[0:19:55] Voice 5: tend to employ many of the people living here on Denman.

[0:19:58] Voice 5: and choice goes both ways and that's why i'm raising my voice today thank you thank you very

[0:20:04] Voice 10: much lindsay um all right i will perhaps turn over to one of the planners if you want to maybe

[0:20:09] Voice 10: address some of the questions planner chadwick yeah

[0:20:23] Planner Chadwick (probable): i was just going to mention that uh yeah

[0:20:25] Planner Chadwick (probable): and we're at this uh part in the process where we're we were uh staffs directed by the ltc to

[0:20:32] Planner Chadwick (probable): get some options out there for discussion so that's where we are um just getting the options

[0:20:37] Planner Chadwick (probable): out there for discussion so thank you very much for your input thank you

[0:20:41] Planner Chadwick (probable): appreciate that I

[0:20:43] Voice 5: know it's still early in the process but I feel getting voices

[0:20:46] Voice 5: on record now is important so that the community understands where this might

[0:20:50] Voice 5: be headed yeah

[0:20:51] Planner Chadwick (probable): absolutely and and as many questions that we can have the

[0:20:55] Planner Chadwick (probable): better because we'll know where the you know where the concerns and questions

[0:20:58] Planner Chadwick (probable): are thank you yeah

[0:21:01] Voice 10: no it's important to know if that this is sort of part of the

[0:21:04] Voice 10: process is that we put things out for discussion they're they're not conclusionary they're not

[0:21:13] Voice 10: sort of the slippery slope um we have the same discussion with the trust policy statement going

[0:21:18] Voice 10: to first reading is that we try and sort of develop things the best that we can and then

[0:21:24] Voice 10: we get it out there comments such as this so that we can work at it and and hopefully develop a

[0:21:30] Voice 10: uh everybody's comfortable with again not unlike the policy statement we're not going to get it

[0:21:35] Voice 10: first but we're going to try and get it as best as we can um denman um it's you know it's been

[0:21:43] Voice 10: decades and we've heard that from from many members of the public that um we've been lagging

[0:21:49] Voice 10: behind on housing on denman island and we have to get things better we have to get our bylaws better

[0:21:55] Voice 10: better and get something that works for the community.

[0:21:58] Voice 10: So there, we appreciate your comments

[0:22:01] Voice 10: and look forward to you getting us more

[0:22:05] Voice 10: as we go through the process.

[0:22:06] Voice 10: So thank you.

[0:22:07] Voice 10: Thank you.

[0:22:08] Voice 10: All right, I'm not seeing any other hands up at this point.

[0:22:16] Voice 10: So I think we will move on to the minutes.

[0:22:22] Voice 10: We have minutes before us on page three,

[0:22:25] Voice 10: which the local trust committee special minute meeting minutes dated may 8th 2025 so trustees

[0:22:31] Voice 10: any commentary or shall we just adopt by general consent i don't see anybody raising any excitement

[0:22:41] Voice 10: so based on that by consent uh we will adopt those minutes we then move on to local trust

[0:22:47] Voice 10: meeting minutes dated may 20th 2025 for adoption again any comments on those if not by consent

[0:22:58] Voice 10: we will adopt those minutes.

[0:23:00] Voice 10: We don't have advisory planning meetings, minutes, reports,

[0:23:04] Voice 10: so we have follow-up action lists dated July 8th, 2020-25.

[0:23:09] Voice 10: So page 17 and 23.

[0:23:13] Voice 10: I'll perhaps hand it over to Planner McArgir

[0:23:16] Voice 10: if she has any comments on that and trustees.

[0:23:20] Planner McCargar: I don't have any comments, but if there's any questions,

[0:23:23] Planner McCargar: happy to take those.

[0:23:26] Voice 10: The trustees are remaining.

[0:23:28] Voice 10: Oh, Trustee Graham.

[0:23:29] Voice 10: There he is.

[0:23:29] Voice 10: we have comments thank

[0:23:32] Voice 3: you chair um yeah um uh the follow-up action was page 23 the second item

[0:23:38] Voice 3: talks about our up and coming um meeting on the 26th and it talks a little bit about um we'd like

[0:23:47] Voice 3: to get some information into our weekly grapevine and those pieces need to be produced fairly

[0:23:53] Voice 3: quickly because i think there's only um this week i'm not even sure what the deadline is for the

[0:23:59] Voice 3: for grapevine submission but it's probably it may even have passed for this particular publication

[0:24:06] Voice 3: so we definitely need to get into the next one but i see that it's a it's a zero percent progress

[0:24:10] Voice 3: so i'm just curious to know um where we're at on uh advertising information for that particular

[0:24:17] Voice 3: meeting you're muted narissa advertising

[0:24:26] Planner Chadwick (probable): for the july 26th meeting yeah yeah

[0:24:30] Planner Chadwick (probable): so um morgana's just

[0:24:31] Planner Chadwick (probable): I just sent the little advertisement in this morning.

[0:24:37] Planner Chadwick (probable): I got to the grapevine.

[0:24:38] Planner Chadwick (probable): So I got CC'd on what she sent to Mike.

[0:24:42] Voice 3: Great.

[0:24:43] Voice 3: Thank you so much.

[0:24:44] Planner Chadwick (probable): Yeah.

[0:24:45] Voice 3: If we could, I think we should have it in two publications if we can.

[0:24:50] Voice 3: I think that works.

[0:24:51] Voice 3: So this next week and then the week prior to the meeting.

[0:24:56] Voice 3: Great.

[0:24:56] Voice 3: Awesome.

[0:24:57] Voice 3: Thank you.

[0:24:58] Voice 3: Yeah.

[0:24:58] Planner Chadwick (probable): I'll reply to her

[0:25:00] Planner Chadwick (probable): right now and tell her that.

[0:25:01] Voice 3: Thank you.

[0:25:03] Planner Chadwick (probable): Perfect.

[0:25:05] Voice 10: All right.

[0:25:07] Voice 10: If there's nothing else, we will move on to our delegations.

[0:25:13] Voice 10: So page 24 of the agenda, we have Richard Day and Joe Donnerhey

[0:25:18] Voice 10: regarding 5400 Northwest Road, Denman Island and affordable dwelling units.

[0:25:23] Voice 10: So generally speaking, for delegations, we allow about 10 minutes.

[0:25:27] Voice 10: Unfortunately, I don't think I'm sophisticated enough to have a timer,

[0:25:30] Voice 10: so I will trust that we will keep it within 10 minutes.

[0:25:33] Voice 10: and we'll hand it over to you, Mr. Day.

[0:25:36] Voice 9: Hi there.

[0:25:37] Voice 9: I've got a timer.

[0:25:41] Voice 10: Well, you'll be self-policing.

[0:25:44] Voice 9: That's what we hope for.

[0:25:46] Voice 9: Reset, resume, stopwatch.

[0:25:49] Voice 9: Assuming folks are hearing me.

[0:25:51] Voice 9: Now, the other thing I have to do is share a screen.

[0:25:53] Voice 9: I hope that doesn't count towards my time.

[0:25:55] Voice 9: We'll see how this goes.

[0:25:57] Voice 9: Entire screen.

[0:26:01] Voice 9: Snag hug, there we go.

[0:26:04] Voice 9: Okay.

[0:26:04] Voice 9: Is anybody seeing anything yet?

[0:26:06] Voice 9: Not yet.

[0:26:15] Voice 9: there we go

[0:26:16] Voice 10: beauty

[0:26:18] Voice 9: okay so i wanted to thank everyone for uh making some space for us to

[0:26:24] Voice 9: present this proposal we're going to make it quick and concise as we can obviously we're not going to

[0:26:30] Voice 9: cover everything but we know that we're uh at the start of a long process we're we're very aware of

[0:26:36] Voice 9: that um so the basic you know it wants me to go over here maybe i

[0:26:46] Voice 11: can't

[0:26:47] Voice 9: click of course

[0:26:47] Voice 9: well you are screen sharing that's good oh the tech the tech maybe i gotta go back to zoom to

[0:27:00] Voice 9: click no sorry folks i'm i had quit my job before covet hit so i'm not all that uh zoom friendly

[0:27:17] Voice 9: That's too bad. Slideshow. Start from first slide. Oh, yeah, baby. There we go.

[0:27:23] Voice 9: So we're asking that our property at 5400 Northwest Road be pre-zoned for a total of 10 units of affordable housing in two clusters, which, and I think this is important to point out, would be owned by a not-for-profit housing co-op.

[0:27:41] Voice 9: And what that does is it takes the property off the market forever via provincial legislation.

[0:27:47] Voice 9: So this is not a corporation generating revenue for private people.

[0:27:52] Voice 9: In fact, the model is designed such that it is not part of the for-profit market.

[0:27:58] Voice 9: And even if the even if the whole project were to fail, that whatever assets remain after people get what they get back, what they put in for shares, that has to go to another off the market, not for profit co-op.

[0:28:13] Voice 9: So I just want to say that this model is is a different kind of model than maybe what some folks are are used to.

[0:28:20] Voice 9: we argue that this proposal resonates with the official community plan of denman

[0:28:25] Voice 9: because it talks about giving densities to affordable housing and it talks about sensitive

[0:28:32] Voice 9: areas being protected as another uh another reason to give densities we think it's in keeping with

[0:28:39] Voice 9: denman housing action plan which has been mentioned a couple times today has identified

[0:28:44] Voice 9: to fight a need for action now to address the housing crisis on Denman. So the property itself

[0:28:51] Voice 9: is up in the north end. It's 42 acres, just off Northwest Road near Gladstone, if you know where

[0:29:00] Voice 9: that is, across from a vineyard, a much smaller and nicer vineyard, I would say, than the one

[0:29:07] Voice 9: that's causing all the controversy. Currently zoned RE for resource, and currently not in the

[0:29:14] Voice 9: the ALR. If it were in the ALR, we would not be proposing this because it would be impossible.

[0:29:20] Voice 9: And it's currently being, we are a BC assessment farm. So under our zoning, we are allowed to farm

[0:29:28] Voice 9: and we are. So that's how it exists currently. This map, which was made by me and looks like

[0:29:36] Voice 9: the 1990s internet, for which I apologize, but hey, I can only be good at so many things,

[0:29:42] Voice 9: shows what we're hoping to do at the top left in the kind of magenta is the

[0:29:49] Voice 9: existing area that where we're living and we would propose that to be three

[0:29:54] Voice 9: one-half acre lots and then in the bottom middle the other purpley

[0:30:00] Voice 9: stuff is seven more lots that are along northwest road oh look at that that are along northwest road

[0:30:07] Voice 9: and we propose a frontage road inside one way so that traffic would people would come in

[0:30:15] Voice 9: one place go out another and thereby limiting uh the amount of dust generated uh on the the

[0:30:22] Voice 9: winery area here because we know those folks are concerned about that in the summer it starts to

[0:30:26] Voice 9: get dry um we so each nobody owns anything this is another aspect of the not-for-profit nature

[0:30:34] Voice 9: nobody owns anything people put down shares uh upon which no interest or other market forces

[0:30:40] Voice 9: accrue so you put in 10 grand you get back 10 grand one day um nobody owns anything to get the

[0:30:47] Voice 9: right to occupy space and everyone shares um all of the common areas of about 30 acres and in those

[0:30:54] Voice 9: common areas we have our uh event space called d center which is where we held the info session

[0:30:59] Voice 9: that's been mentioned and we've done all sorts of other things i will not waste not waste i will not

[0:31:04] Voice 9: put my time right now into listing those you can go to the snag.org and take a look at what we do

[0:31:09] Voice 9: we've done a lot of stuff over the last seven years we have a community garden uh where folks

[0:31:15] Voice 9: from around denman uh grow uh lately uh mostly corn but also beans and other staple crops

[0:31:22] Voice 9: shops and we grow some of our food for ourselves there and we are asking for a four-site campground

[0:31:30] Voice 9: to uh to be on the property as well primarily as a way for uh people who are interested in the kind

[0:31:37] Voice 9: of stuff we do um to come through stay at the place might be somebody who might want to live

[0:31:42] Voice 9: there might be somebody visiting um etc so only four sites and in keeping with uh if bylaws 248

[0:31:49] Voice 9: and 249 uh come to pass would be in keeping with those um something that is probably obvious is all

[0:31:58] Voice 9: this water so a lot of the time folks can't develop because they have not enough water

[0:32:02] Voice 9: uh there's a lot of water on this property um there's also the denman ridge running along

[0:32:07] Voice 9: uh up here and what that does is it puts us into development permit area two for sleep slope steep

[0:32:13] Voice 9: steep slopes, and development perimed area four for ponds, streams, and wetlands.

[0:32:19] Voice 9: So we're aware of that, and we know that what that means is we're going to need to consult

[0:32:24] Voice 9: with various experts, community members, conservation, et cetera, et cetera.

[0:32:28] Voice 9: We know that all that needs to be done, and we are happy to do it.

[0:32:31] Voice 9: For ourselves, what we have figured out so far is that where we're proposing the new

[0:32:37] Voice 9: housing cluster is 40 to 70 meters from any sensitive areas in the bottom land.

[0:32:43] Voice 9: The entire property is outside the potential 200-meter setback from the ocean.

[0:32:49] Voice 9: We practice subsistence conservation.

[0:32:51] Voice 9: We're going to keep practicing that.

[0:32:53] Voice 9: We can talk a lot about what that means, but not here.

[0:32:57] Voice 9: We'll probably do another info session on that.

[0:32:59] Voice 9: And we will bake into the co-op rules that this has to continue,

[0:33:04] Voice 9: and also as part of the site analysis and talking with the Islands Trust

[0:33:08] Voice 9: and the Dam and Conservation folks, we'll see what all we're going to do.

[0:33:11] Voice 9: um another thing is that taking the property out of the resource zone uh will help to protect the

[0:33:19] Voice 9: sensitive areas because it's right now you know intensive farming and logging are what are allowed

[0:33:24] Voice 9: here we don't do that we don't intend to do that but uh this will take it out of that zoning um

[0:33:30] Voice 9: and of course taking the property off the market by way of a not-for-profit housing co-op is also

[0:33:37] Voice 9: a protection because now that's not something that somebody can come and build a big huge house

[0:33:41] Voice 9: or a big huge set of houses and make a whole lot of money off of because those aren't our values.

[0:33:47] Voice 9: So we're actually interested in affordable housing. What do we mean by affordable? We can do

[0:33:52] Voice 9: another many hours of discussion on that. For now, I'm just going to talk about the numbers that

[0:33:57] Voice 9: we're imagining. It would be a buy-in of about $75,000 to get one of those half-acre lots,

[0:34:03] Voice 9: access to it and to the shared area, rather than $400,000 to $600,000 on the market if you're not

[0:34:09] Voice 9: on the waterfront for an empty lot. We're talking about if the LTC allows affordable dwellings like

[0:34:17] Voice 9: yurts and tiny homes and stuff like that, that is going to be absolutely crucial to bringing

[0:34:22] Voice 9: the cost of housing down. If we need to build a large home stick frame with granite countertops

[0:34:31] Voice 9: and all of that, then even without the granite, you're into $500,000. You're over a million

[0:34:37] Voice 9: dollars on the market. And what we're talking about is maybe, you know, $200,000. So that's

[0:34:44] Voice 9: the kind of affordability we're talking about. It isn't social housing. We also don't need a lot of

[0:34:50] Voice 9: millions of dollars from the government in order to build it. Another way we can increase affordability

[0:34:55] Voice 9: is to hold a mortgage for some members who don't have the capital to buy in. That requires, of

[0:35:01] Voice 9: course, getting some other folks who, like us, are willing to throw what they have into the

[0:35:06] Voice 9: into the collective project but hopefully we can do that for some and we also will have a maximum

[0:35:13] Voice 9: home size and a home cost to preserve affordability into the future so that somebody doesn't set up

[0:35:18] Voice 9: something big that somebody who's going to buy in if they leave they got to spend a million dollars

[0:35:24] Voice 9: so we don't want that to happen we know that we're on indigenous territories we have spoken

[0:35:33] Voice 9: We've spoken with and had a visit from Comox Chief Nicole Rempel, who attended a class we did recently, a UVic Indigenous Studies class.

[0:35:42] Voice 9: And we've talked with Chief Rempel about bringing Comox youth over to do some cultural programming.

[0:35:48] Voice 9: Our very first event back in 2019, we were welcomed to the territory by Qualcomm Elder Kerry Reid.

[0:35:56] Voice 9: So that's been there from the beginning.

[0:35:57] Voice 9: And throughout the time we've been here, we've worked a lot with Maxine Heyman-Matelpe, who lives on Damanhur's Kwakwaka'wakw, and has been a very strong friend to us and a great guide in terms of, you know, settler-Indigenous relations.

[0:36:15] Voice 9: And we've done, again, you can see our website, all sorts of events and classes on decolonization, Indigenous resurgence, settler-Indigenous relations in general.

[0:36:24] Voice 9: all. So that's core to our mission. It's core to what I do as a political theorist, and it's core

[0:36:33] Voice 9: to everything we do in a practical sense here at the SNAG. So the info session, we had about 50

[0:36:41] Voice 9: people on a hot day, which was really great. We had neighbors, we had potential members,

[0:36:48] Voice 9: We had the trustees. Thank you so much for attending that.

[0:36:54] Voice 9: Both Sam and David were able to provide a lot of background and answers to questions that, you know, we wouldn't have been able to provide or not as well.

[0:37:01] Voice 9: So that was excellent. Other folks from across the island.

[0:37:05] Voice 9: My reading is that most were in support. The main concerns that we heard at that point were about traffic and tourism.

[0:37:12] Voice 9: prism. So we're taking all that into account as we develop the development. There we go.

[0:37:22] Voice 9: So there'll be more of those. We're going to keep doing that. That, again, is just a beginning as

[0:37:26] Voice 9: well. I want to address a question that has come up a lot. I was a member of the Housing Advisory

[0:37:34] Voice 9: Planning Commission. I familiarized myself to a fair degree with the history of affordable housing

[0:37:40] Voice 9: on Denman. And it feels to me as though what often happens is that someone might say, I love

[0:37:47] Voice 9: affordable housing, but there's always going to be this sort of like, why do this thing? Why do

[0:37:51] Voice 9: this on this property? Why do it now? Can't we do something somewhere else later on that might be

[0:37:56] Voice 9: better? And so I got this map from Planner Chadwick, whom I thank, and it's also been very

[0:38:02] Voice 9: very supportive about the various setbacks on Dem and what this shows is that 23% of the island is

[0:38:10] Voice 9: in a park or a covenanted area. That's never going to be available for housing of any sort,

[0:38:15] Voice 9: collective or otherwise. 47% is in the ALR. So two single family dwellings max, if somebody wants to

[0:38:23] Voice 9: do that, and large property. So not a lot of new housing in general, and definitely not any kind

[0:38:28] Voice 9: kind of collective housing. That's 70% of the island on which no collective housing will ever

[0:38:32] Voice 9: be built. 26%, now I did a bit of math come up with that number, is zoned for single family

[0:38:38] Voice 9: occupation, most of which is in small lots in densely inhabited areas. It seems unlikely those

[0:38:44] Voice 9: are ever going to be approved for collective housing for all sorts of reasons. That gets us

[0:38:49] Voice 9: up to 96% of the island. Right now, there are a handful of informal land shares, which I think is

[0:38:56] Voice 9: is a great model. Most of them, my understanding, are still on the market. They're not all entirely

[0:39:02] Voice 9: conforming. And therefore, they're rather precarious. And I think that given the way

[0:39:07] Voice 9: in which things are changing and enforcement is going on and all of that, this model doesn't feel

[0:39:11] Voice 9: like a good model for young folks going forward. And I know when I talk with them, they're like,

[0:39:16] Voice 9: we want a non-precarious place to live. And anything we do now isn't going to be grandfathered

[0:39:21] Voice 9: in. That's 3% of the island. That gets us to 99%. There's 0.7% of the land on Denman used for

[0:39:28] Voice 9: off-market affordable collective housing. That's Coho. So 0.7%. You might think, oh, there's crown

[0:39:38] Voice 9: land. Actually, no. No. To the best of my understanding, there's one small parcel at

[0:39:43] Voice 9: Gravely Bay, a few acres, and that is treaty settlement land under the negotiations with

[0:39:48] Voice 9: with the Comox people.

[0:39:50] Voice 9: So with so little land left,

[0:39:52] Voice 9: with so few people who do hold land

[0:39:55] Voice 9: being willing to share it with others

[0:39:59] Voice 9: rather than make a profit on it,

[0:40:00] Voice 9: I really think as Trustee Mod said earlier,

[0:40:03] Voice 9: that it's time to maybe give a bit more space

[0:40:06] Voice 9: to off-market collective affordable housing on Denman,

[0:40:10] Voice 9: even if what we do isn't gonna be perfect

[0:40:13] Voice 9: in all possible ways,

[0:40:14] Voice 9: but it's gonna be pretty darn good.

[0:40:16] Voice 9: Good. Thank you very much. For further info, you can go here or email me, and we're going to keep

[0:40:23] Voice 9: talking.

[0:40:24] Voice 10: Thank you very much for an outstanding presentation. Love the icons. It makes it a

[0:40:30] Voice 10: little bit more colorful. So, trustees, any feedback? I take it because you were at the

[0:40:36] Voice 10: meeting, you're probably far ahead of this than what I am, but I do appreciate the presentation.

[0:40:42] Voice 10: but trustees, did you have any questions or comments?

[0:40:48] Voice 10: Doesn't look like it.

[0:40:50] Voice 10: I think they have, oh, Trustee Graham.

[0:40:58] Voice 3: I just want to take this opportunity to thank Chard

[0:41:01] Voice 3: for the presentation.

[0:41:02] Voice 3: It was concise, it was very good, very good.

[0:41:07] Voice 3: And you, you know, I think you appreciate this process

[0:41:13] Voice 3: may take a little longer than you hope,

[0:41:15] Voice 3: but as most things happen on demo,

[0:41:18] Voice 3: and we take our time because we're in a trust area as opposed to the municipality so it's it's it's a

[0:41:31] Voice 3: tough distinction for people to wrap their heads around but it's one that it's been hammered into

[0:41:35] Voice 3: us as trustees we we always have to have uh considerations but all

[0:41:45] Voice 10: righty well thank you

[0:41:47] Voice 10: very much mr day um look forward to seeing you at future local trust committee meetings and um

[0:41:54] Voice 10: look forward to seeing how your proposal evolves so thank you again

[0:42:00] Voice 11: all

[0:42:02] Voice 10: righty now one thing like um sorry chair um

[0:42:07] Voice 6: i just just before uh charred uh went to mute i

[0:42:11] Voice 6: know that uh joan in the background was asking about next steps um so i just wanted to check

[0:42:16] Voice 6: and see if she has any questions that she wanted to sort of particularly put our direction um and

[0:42:22] Voice 6: we might be able to give them some clarity in that absolutely thank

[0:42:27] Voice 2: you sam um yeah i really

[0:42:29] Voice 2: appreciate the space we have been given here and and we do appreciate that this is a you know a

[0:42:36] Voice 2: measured process right a very considerate process um we're going to continue to hold info sessions

[0:42:42] Voice 2: on different aspects of our proposal

[0:42:44] Voice 2: and the proposal based on the feedback we get

[0:42:47] Voice 2: will evolve as well.

[0:42:49] Voice 2: But we've been doing this already for,

[0:42:51] Voice 2: since we got here and we came here to do this.

[0:42:54] Voice 2: So we have spent time formulating our proposal.

[0:42:58] Voice 2: So I guess my question is for the LTC,

[0:43:01] Voice 2: what would be in terms of a more formal process

[0:43:05] Voice 2: to move things ahead,

[0:43:07] Voice 2: what would be the next steps for us in relation to you?

[0:43:10] Voice 2: We're gonna keep on doing our own

[0:43:11] Voice 2: you know community-based uh activities but that's my question thanks well

[0:43:18] Voice 10: i think planner

[0:43:18] Voice 10: chadwick's come on and i think that she's probably best to give you that guidance

[0:43:25] Planner Chadwick (probable): um yeah i mean so the the conventional way uh to move forward would be through a rezoning

[0:43:33] Planner Chadwick (probable): application um because we are in this process this housing um project um there's opportunity

[0:43:42] Planner Chadwick (probable): to look at things like the OCP designation of land and also the zoning

[0:43:51] Planner Chadwick (probable): specifically. So there is an opportunity to potentially pre-zone as you've

[0:43:58] Planner Chadwick (probable): identified and there's two steps really that the LTC can be

[0:44:04] Planner Chadwick (probable): considering in that process. It's the land designation and the ability to

[0:44:10] Planner Chadwick (probable): to rezone to support what your vision is and then the the other piece is to actually do the

[0:44:21] Planner Chadwick (probable): rezoning and so the the place where the LTC is currently is will will be to this to decide

[0:44:30] Planner Chadwick (probable): the extent to which they want to support this project within the existing housing project

[0:44:37] Planner Chadwick (probable): So you can wait for that discussion and if all goes well, we're going to be moving towards this wrapping up, hopefully by the end of term, which would be by next year.

[0:44:52] Planner Chadwick (probable): And so there'll be, you know, if all goes well.

[0:44:57] Planner Chadwick (probable): But the other option is for you just to move forward directly with a resuming application.

[0:45:04] Voice 10: Thank you, Anderson.

[0:45:06] Voice 10: Thanks.

[0:45:07] Voice 10: Okay, thank you very much. All right, trustees. So, moving forward, we have correspondence. This is page 29 of an email from the Comox Valley Regional District regarding Comox Valley Regional Growth Strategy Minor Amendment Referral. Is this just a receipt or did you have any comments on this?

[0:45:34] Voice 10: So,

[0:45:35] Planner McCargar: this is for the LTC's information.

[0:45:38] Planner McCargar: Staff will be drafting a referral response and then would share that with the LTC's via

[0:45:44] Planner McCargar: email.

[0:45:46] Planner McCargar: I know we're already past that June 30th deadline, but I believe RPM Jamerat had requested an

[0:45:54] Planner McCargar: extension just because we didn't have a lot of time with this referral.

[0:45:57] Planner McCargar: referral. And if there's any additional discussion that's needed, it'll be brought forward at an LTC

[0:46:03] Planner McCargar: meeting, but likely it will just kind of go forward as a referral and the LTC will get cc'd.

[0:46:11] Voice 10: Okay, thank you very much. All right. Now, one thing I note, moving on to new business,

[0:46:18] Voice 10: but Planner Chadwick could ask for a resolution that we missed getting into the agenda and I

[0:46:26] Voice 10: I missed adding to the agenda.

[0:46:29] Voice 10: So with your permission, now that we're at new business,

[0:46:34] Voice 10: we'll just open this up to Planet Chadwick for discussion.

[0:46:42] Planner Chadwick (probable): Yes.

[0:46:43] Planner Chadwick (probable): So my request to Chair Maud was to introduce a resolution

[0:46:50] Planner Chadwick (probable): to request that staff organize a community engagement for September.

[0:46:58] Planner Chadwick (probable): It was discussed very briefly at the previous meeting.

[0:47:04] Planner Chadwick (probable): We considered it.

[0:47:07] Planner Chadwick (probable): It was kind of offered, and the idea was we'll see where we are with the July meeting.

[0:47:13] Planner Chadwick (probable): We have an opportunity.

[0:47:16] Planner Chadwick (probable): Staff, I'll say, are working quite diligently to get some very key pieces of information together

[0:47:22] Planner Chadwick (probable): so that we can make the July 26th meeting productive.

[0:47:28] Planner Chadwick (probable): but i think that there'll be further opportunity um to just discuss things in a finer grain on

[0:47:35] Planner Chadwick (probable): uh in september and also collaborate with the the denman land conservancy so um

[0:47:43] Planner Chadwick (probable): in order to be able to move forward with uh starting to organize a september meeting we

[0:47:48] Planner Chadwick (probable): we need a resolution that um that is uh requesting that staff do so and i'm happy to provide any

[0:47:55] Planner Chadwick (probable): additional information related to what that might be thank

[0:48:03] Voice 10: you trustees any

[0:48:04] Voice 10: questions about this trustee Graham is

[0:48:10] Voice 3: the have you got a date in mind or is

[0:48:14] Voice 3: that part of the planning is that you would start looking at the calendar and

[0:48:17] Voice 3: availability and I'm thinking that the hall is probably our best venue for this

[0:48:22] Voice 3: kind of kind of meeting yeah

[0:48:26] Planner Chadwick (probable): so based on previous conversation that indicated

[0:48:29] Planner Chadwick (probable): that weekends are best um we did have our uh the northern team now that we don't have a our

[0:48:37] Planner Chadwick (probable): planning assistant just is just new i don't know who it was exactly do a little scan uh um to see

[0:48:42] Planner Chadwick (probable): what availability would be like and also just basing it on kind of what timing would work

[0:48:47] Planner Chadwick (probable): well in terms of us being able to get materials together and such and um saturday the 20th of

[0:48:54] Planner Chadwick (probable): September was the date that was that I think we have actually tentatively

[0:49:01] Planner Chadwick (probable): booked it but we we'd get to connect with you to see if it would be if it'll

[0:49:09] Planner Chadwick (probable): work for you for trustees and

[0:49:14] Voice 3: you're confident that get that gives you enough

[0:49:17] Voice 3: time to produce those the other visuals and documents and data for the community

[0:49:24] Voice 3: to to have a look at yeah

[0:49:27] Planner Chadwick (probable): that's what i'm feeling

[0:49:28] Voice 3: so yeah i

[0:49:29] Planner Chadwick (probable): mean we can always change the data and

[0:49:31] Planner Chadwick (probable): we'll give you a heads up um if it looks like we might not be um part of this is like there's two

[0:49:37] Planner Chadwick (probable): there's two key well there's a number of key pieces but two of them are um the ability to

[0:49:42] Planner Chadwick (probable): connect with the conservancy and uh kind of do sort of like a joint approach um and the other

[0:49:49] Planner Chadwick (probable): is that we do have some new maps that are being created.

[0:49:54] Planner Chadwick (probable): There's been some work, and this is a trust-wide.

[0:49:57] Planner Chadwick (probable): So their sort of target date to have these together

[0:50:04] Planner Chadwick (probable): is sort of mid-August.

[0:50:05] Planner Chadwick (probable): So I think that'll give us the opportunity to integrate those.

[0:50:09] Planner Chadwick (probable): And they're, yeah, like, you know, we've had our,

[0:50:12] Planner Chadwick (probable): you know, we have this temporary position.

[0:50:15] Planner Chadwick (probable): We have a biologist on staff,

[0:50:16] Planner Chadwick (probable): and they've been working with our hydrogeologists.

[0:50:19] Planner Chadwick (probable): so we've got a number uh and robert kojima one of our regional planning managers been

[0:50:23] Planner Chadwick (probable): uh integral part of that um that work um we will be able to present um

[0:50:30] Planner Chadwick (probable): some maps with some data but it it it'll be much more refined in in september so um i'm so i'm

[0:50:37] Planner Chadwick (probable): basing the timing on um that anticipated um release or like completion of that project as well right

[0:50:47] Voice 10: Trustee Borthwick

[0:50:49] Voice 6: Yeah I just have to beg

[0:50:51] Voice 6: a very brief absence

[0:50:53] Voice 6: I have a cat that desperately wants to be outside

[0:50:55] Voice 6: so I'm going to be gone for just a moment

[0:50:58] Voice 6: I'll be right back

[0:50:59] Voice 6: No problem

[0:51:02] Voice 10: So Lisa do you have

[0:51:03] Voice 10: the motion that you can put on the screen

[0:51:09] Voice 4: Yes Chairman do you want me to

[0:51:10] Voice 4: share the motion screen share it

[0:51:12] Voice 10: Yes please

[0:51:13] Voice 10: When Trustee Borthwick

[0:51:16] Voice 10: returns we perhaps

[0:51:18] Voice 10: can proceed with that

[0:51:56] Voice 10: There we go. So we'll just wait for the return of Trustee Borthwick.

[0:52:01] Planner Chadwick (probable): I think we should just,

[0:52:02] Planner Chadwick (probable): sorry, I would just say, let's just say,

[0:52:05] Planner Chadwick (probable): let's just say, just so that we don't have to come back to the trustees,

[0:52:11] Planner Chadwick (probable): let's say direct staff to schedule a community information section in September or October.

[0:52:17] Planner Chadwick (probable): Just to

[0:52:18] Planner Chadwick (probable): give us that flexibility so that if, you know, if we're not on track,

[0:52:21] Planner Chadwick (probable): we don't have to come back with another resolution without meeting.

[0:52:26] Planner Chadwick (probable): that

[0:52:27] Voice 10: sounds like an excellent plan it

[0:52:32] Voice 3: does also

[0:52:37] Planner Chadwick (probable): have to let's just specify that it's for the

[0:52:39] Planner Chadwick (probable): housing project right uh

[0:53:13] Voice 10: it looks like trustee borfolk has successfully evicted his cat so

[0:53:16] Voice 10: um so we have a motion on the screen there somebody wishes to read that out

[0:53:22] Voice 10: happy

[0:53:24] Voice 3: to do that i move that the nevada local trust committee uh request staff as opposed to

[0:53:29] Voice 3: direct request staff to schedule a community engagement session to discuss the housing

[0:53:36] Voice 3: project in September or October 2025.

[0:53:41] Voice 10: Yes, Trustee Borwick seconds. Any further

[0:53:44] Voice 10: discussion on this? If not, call the question. All in favor? Aye.

[0:53:51] Voice 10: Aye. So the ayes have it. So

[0:53:53] Voice 10: that's carried. And I do very much appreciate the request language. I always feel like I'm

[0:54:02] Voice 10: I'm a dictator when I put a motion on saying it directs staff.

[0:54:06] Voice 10: I think it's much more conciliatory to say we request it.

[0:54:12] Voice 10: All righty.

[0:54:13] Voice 10: So, Planner Chadwick, that's it for that discussion piece?

[0:54:17] Voice 10: All right.

[0:54:18] Voice 10: Excellent.

[0:54:18] Voice 10: All right.

[0:54:19] Voice 10: So, moving on.

[0:54:20] Voice 10: We have staff reports on page 32, which is Trust Council Bylaw No.

[0:54:26] Voice 10: 1797, Local Trust Committee Meeting Procedure Bylaw for discussion.

[0:54:30] Voice 10: discussion um i'm assuming platter mccarver is taking care of that or we got somebody else

[0:54:42] Voice 10: i

[0:54:44] Planner McCargar: wasn't planning to but perhaps um i don't see anyone

[0:54:51] Planner McCargar: else signing onto the call here

[0:54:52] Planner McCargar: i

[0:54:53] Voice 6: mean i i think um i mean we we as trustees you know have had this discussion relatively

[0:55:01] Voice 6: relatively recently um obviously part of this is about you know making sure that everybody else is

[0:55:08] Voice 6: aware of this discussion i don't know if it's appropriate for us to sort of just give our

[0:55:14] Voice 6: to sort of introduce that or if we're gonna ask marlos to do it on the fly yeah

[0:55:19] Voice 10: well it's basically

[0:55:22] Voice 10: it's it's i don't know it is i don't think there's a lot of discussion points with it as you say we

[0:55:28] Voice 10: We discussed this fairly in-depth at Trust Council.

[0:55:32] Voice 10: So my assumption is the trustees are well familiar with the issues and why this direction was given.

[0:55:43] Voice 10: Other than that, I don't know.

[0:55:45] Voice 10: Is Trustee Graham?

[0:55:47] Voice 3: Yeah, I agree with my co-trustee.

[0:55:49] Voice 3: We don't need to put our planner on the spot and try and formulate a presentation.

[0:55:54] Voice 3: We're familiar with this.

[0:55:55] Voice 3: this is a uh to me it's a housekeeping bylaw it just tightens things up and makes things uh

[0:56:01] Voice 3: so i'm quite happy to move on with that motion if if uh that's okay okay

[0:56:07] Voice 6: all all i would all i

[0:56:09] Voice 6: would add is just for the you know for the benefit of our community who may or may not be listening

[0:56:14] Voice 6: uh and who may may watch this recording um so what we're looking at here is uh trust council

[0:56:21] Voice 6: bylaw number 197, which at our last trust council meeting, we voted with a two thirds majority to

[0:56:33] Voice 6: standardize the meeting procedure bylaws across the local trust committees. And this is really

[0:56:40] Voice 6: not going to change a whole bunch for us. Actually, a lot of what's in the draft bylaw

[0:56:44] Voice 6: echoes our current meeting procedures pretty closely. That wasn't the case on all islands.

[0:56:51] Voice 6: Every different LTC had a different meeting procedure bylaw, which, especially for staff, which might be working across several different jurisdictions, made it very complicated to sort of be clear of the format in which things ought to be approved.

[0:57:05] Voice 6: So this is about deadlines to submit delegations.

[0:57:08] Voice 6: This is about times given for delegations to speak and for town hall discussions, that sort of thing.

[0:57:16] Voice 6: It's mostly internal and it's fairly dry in terms of like the external thing.

[0:57:22] Voice 6: It also, in our case, really changes, I think, almost nothing.

[0:57:26] Voice 6: It's just a standardization of formatting.

[0:57:29] Voice 6: So this is just in case anybody wants to know from our end, that's really what we're looking

[0:57:35] Voice 6: at here.

[0:57:35] Voice 6: It's not, nothing is really changing for us.

[0:57:42] Voice 10: Okay.

[0:57:43] Voice 10: So Trustee Graham, do you want to read this?

[0:57:46] Voice 3: Absolutely.

[0:57:46] Voice 3: So I move that the Demond Island Local Trust Committee give By-law 258, cited as Demond Island Local Trust Committee Meeting Procedures Repeal By-law, number 258, 2025, its first reading.

[0:58:01] Voice 3: Second.

[0:58:03] Voice 10: Any further discussion?

[0:58:04] Voice 10: Not call the question.

[0:58:05] Voice 10: All in favor?

[0:58:06] Voice 10: And that carries.

[0:58:09] Voice 3: Shall I continue?

[0:58:11] Voice 3: Absolutely.

[0:58:11] Voice 3: I move that the Denman Island Local Trust Committee give by-law 258 cited as Denman Island Local Trust Committee meeting procedures for repeal by-law number 258-2025 a second reading.

[0:58:25] Voice 10: Seconded.

[0:58:26] Voice 10: For discussion, call the question all in favor.

[0:58:30] Voice 10: And that carries.

[0:58:32] Voice 6: You want me to do the other ones, David?

[0:58:34] Voice 6: You go for it, buddy.

[0:58:38] Voice 6: i move that the denman island local trust committee give bylaw 258 decided as denman

[0:58:43] Voice 6: island local trust committee procedure meeting procedures repeal bylaw number 258 2025

[0:58:48] Voice 6: be given third reading

[0:58:50] Voice 10: second trustee graham no discussion call the question on favor that carries

[0:58:57] Voice 6: and i move that the denman island local trust committee forward bylaw 258 cited as denman

[0:59:03] Voice 6: island local trust committee meeting procedures repeal bylaw number 258 2025 to the islands trust

[0:59:10] Voice 6: executive committee for consideration of approval secretary

[0:59:13] Voice 10: graham for the discussion call the

[0:59:15] Voice 10: question on favor that carries um and i will note uh likely at our next meeting we'll be bringing

[0:59:23] Voice 10: forward the meeting notification bylaw um and so i would encourage trustees to put some um their

[0:59:30] Voice 10: thoughts around that. I'm sure staff will be selecting

[0:59:33] Voice 10: feedback on how you would like to have

[0:59:37] Voice 10: meeting notifications circulated.

[0:59:41] Voice 10: For the trust, I feel it's a really

[0:59:45] Voice 10: good bylaw because it's going to mean that we can

[0:59:49] Voice 10: be a lot more flexible and probably a lot more appropriate with how we

[0:59:53] Voice 10: circulate things. On the Southern Gulf Islands, we were

[0:59:57] Voice 10: restricted basically to one public

[1:00:00] Voice 10: publication because it was the only one that met the circulation standards of our bylaws

[1:00:04] Voice 10: or of the provincial um mandate um and ironically it was a publication that's not circulated to the

[1:00:11] Voice 10: southern gulf islands so literally that we were paying a whole bunch of money to run an ad

[1:00:16] Voice 10: that nobody saw um so now we're afforded the flexibility of being a little more local a

[1:00:23] Voice 10: little bit more targeted and i think it's it's a lot more positive for the public process so

[1:00:27] Voice 10: know um that will be coming forward but we we should make sure we get that one really really

[1:00:32] Voice 10: right um so do wrap your heads around things and when staff seek the feedback give it and then we

[1:00:38] Voice 10: will get that one done too so that's wonderful so um pleased to to get that that's um been i think

[1:00:46] Voice 10: this one's been a couple of years in the making and uh very happy to to to see it before us and

[1:00:52] Voice 10: and getting adopted that's great all right so we move on to um 13.2 um on page 36 that's the

[1:01:00] Voice 10: trust conservancy um the huron um for your information another fine publication um always

[1:01:08] Voice 10: enjoy reading these um along with the conservancy report because it really gives us insight into

[1:01:15] Voice 10: another aspect of violence trust um that sometimes sort of is far outside the spotlight where it

[1:01:21] Voice 10: should be really in the spotlight because it really it is the good work done by this organization

[1:01:29] Voice 10: um and uh it's very proud to support that um so i will just bundle the trust conservancy here on and

[1:01:37] Voice 10: board work together for your information uh we have an applications report on page 42 um

[1:01:44] Voice 10: again if the trustees have any questions or staff have any comment on that

[1:01:48] Voice 10: I'm not seeing anybody getting too excited. So I think that's great for information.

[1:01:55] Voice 10: We have, of course, our adopted policies and standing resolutions on page 49.

[1:02:01] Voice 10: And then moving down on page 60, we have our active projects report.

[1:02:08] Voice 10: Again, trustees, if you have any questions or staff have any commentary on that,

[1:02:16] Voice 10: seem to be too much excitement there. Thank you very much.

[1:02:20] Voice 10: and on page 61 we have our future projects report again any questions or comments on that

[1:02:27] Voice 10: we seem to be doing quite well ourselves oh all right so um uh upcoming meetings

[1:02:39] Voice 10: our next regular meeting is scheduled for tuesday october 21st 2025 at 10 a.m at the

[1:02:46] Voice 10: denman activity center um and we have a journal before so trustee graham thank

[1:02:53] Voice 3: you chair i didn't

[1:02:54] Voice 3: want to miss this opportunity of maybe getting some advice from our planner regarding the

[1:03:00] Voice 3: community concern on the extreme land activities that are happening at the north end, a so-called

[1:03:09] Voice 3: winery. It's in the ALR, and I'm not sure that we have any way of, I don't know, commenting

[1:03:22] Voice 3: or making our concerns known to the ALR

[1:03:26] Voice 3: that we're confused as to how much land activity can happen

[1:03:34] Voice 3: before it's deemed irresponsible or injurious

[1:03:38] Voice 3: to neighborhood properties or rainfall,

[1:03:43] Voice 3: redirection of streams.

[1:03:45] Voice 3: Basically, is there anything that we can do

[1:03:49] Voice 3: in your professional opinion with a situation like that that's in the ALR

[1:03:53] Voice 3: and obviously a higher level of local government?

[1:03:58] Voice 3: Donna McCargett.

[1:04:00] Planner McCargar: Yeah, so I haven't looked into this or received anything

[1:04:05] Planner McCargar: from any community members about this, but, I mean, it is a permitted use.

[1:04:11] Planner McCargar: It's a permitted farm use, so I know that there are likely some conditions

[1:04:17] Planner McCargar: around which they can operate.

[1:04:18] Planner McCargar: I'd have to look into it more, but I think it was something like 50% of the grapes must be grown on site.

[1:04:30] Planner McCargar: Yeah, so I mean, if there was concern, people could lodge a complaint process with the ALC would be one way to go.

[1:04:40] Planner McCargar: um yeah

[1:04:43] Planner Chadwick (probable): but without knowing

[1:04:43] Planner McCargar: more details i don't know if they're contravening any

[1:04:47] Planner McCargar: regulations or even any of our zoning bylaw regulations i

[1:04:53] Voice 3: i know that um the community

[1:04:56] Voice 3: has launched um a bylaw investigation with the alr alc i'm sorry so i don't know that's not part

[1:05:05] Voice 3: of our process so i don't know what happens to you do we get as the local government do we get

[1:05:10] Voice 3: referred on any complaint that goes to the alc i'm wondering as a matter of course we ever do

[1:05:18] Voice 3: we ever hear about something that happens on our island on the ale on land in the alr i don't but

[1:05:25] Voice 3: perhaps yeah

[1:05:26] Planner McCargar: i see warren's here

[1:05:27] Voice 3: yeah i was just wondering if uh you could speak to that word

[1:05:31] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: we we did at one time get regular uh cooperation and um phone calls from the enforcement staff

[1:05:40] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: from the ALC that currently is not happening so we haven't heard from them regarding

[1:05:47] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: this property we have our own file we've done our own investigation based on the complaints received

[1:05:56] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: there's no unlawful land use occurring but there is some work that's been done in development

[1:06:05] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: permit areas and as of June the property owner said they were going to submit a development

[1:06:10] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: permit application because they had received a survey that verified that there had been work

[1:06:16] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: done within the Comas Bluffs along that area, some tree cutting. So they were going to submit

[1:06:24] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: an application. But as far as actual land use, we're not aware of any unlawful land use at this

[1:06:30] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: time.

[1:06:33] Voice 3: Would it be appropriate for the local trust committee to ask you as the manager of

[1:06:37] Voice 3: enforcement to contact the agricultural land commission and ask them to um i don't know forward

[1:06:44] Voice 3: their their um results of that request by a community member that there be a bylaw infraction

[1:06:54] Voice 3: is that something that we could do yes we can do that okay

[1:07:00] Voice 10: would you uh does that require a motion

[1:07:02] Voice 3: exactly

[1:07:03] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: no it doesn't require a motion i will contact them about this property and see where

[1:07:08] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: they're where they're at see if they can provide any response or input thank you thank you very

[1:07:15] Voice 10: much for today and that's that hopefully we'll give some clarification to local trust committee

[1:07:20] Voice 6: um i was curious and and sort of in addition to that because obviously this is you know this is

[1:07:27] Voice 6: a an alr question and we can ask for um you know the the results of their investigation um is it

[1:07:38] Voice 6: within the scope of our remit to, uh, address the ALR, you know, in, in, as, as an LTC and express

[1:07:48] Voice 6: concern. Um, I don't know if that's, that's a piece of communication in terms of like advocacy,

[1:07:55] Voice 6: because obviously, you know, permitted uses are permitted uses. There has been, uh, uh, an

[1:08:01] Voice 6: intrusion into, into a DPA, which, you know, I would hope that they get their application to us.

[1:08:07] Voice 6: nevertheless like that that i know that intrusion happened a year ago um you know that tree cutting

[1:08:14] Voice 6: was done quite a while quite some time ago um and it seems to me that like there's there's quite a

[1:08:20] Voice 6: lot of pretty serious damage being done um and and it's it's difficult for me uh as someone who's you

[1:08:30] Voice 6: know speaking with community speaking with people aware of the property itself to and and we've you

[1:08:37] Voice 6: And I don't think this letter came to us in time to be on this agenda, but we have had community input that there's considerable concern around this.

[1:08:46] Voice 6: And I think if we're going to hold ourselves as a body that holds conservation and responsible agriculture and development within scope on the islands, we can't just throw up our hands when this sort of thing is happening.

[1:09:05] Voice 6: happening. Um, so, you know, I, I absolutely, you know, support what, what trustee Graham's

[1:09:11] Voice 6: saying in terms of, can we get some more information on what their investigation may

[1:09:14] Voice 6: have been? But I also think that it behoves us to some degree to, to, you know, more directly

[1:09:21] Voice 6: express, uh, you know, our, you know, concern about this, this current project in the way that's

[1:09:27] Voice 6: going forward, because, you know, and again, trustee Graham, if this, you know, if what you're

[1:09:31] Voice 6: you're talking about in terms of them potentially being in receivership is true we're we're putting

[1:09:37] Voice 6: ourselves in a position where someone's coming in and doing quite a lot of work and then if they

[1:09:42] Voice 6: just you know wash their hands of it we're left holding the bag of this this incredible damage

[1:09:48] Voice 6: and i know that that's not necessarily always within our control but i i would like to think

[1:09:55] Voice 6: that that as a body we would you know try to address it a little bit more forcefully than just

[1:09:59] Voice 6: trust, you know, well, it's the ALR, so we can't do anything about it.

[1:10:05] Voice 10: All right. Well, I would seek a little bit of guidance from staff. I don't think it would be

[1:10:10] Voice 10: inappropriate for us to draft a letter of concern to the Agriculture Land Commission

[1:10:17] Voice 10: as a local trust committee, but perhaps staff can sort of provide a little bit of guidance as to

[1:10:25] Voice 10: whether or not it's considered that would be appropriate or not for the local trust committee

[1:10:29] Voice 10: need to do that don't know well i'm

[1:10:40] Voice 6: not also i also don't want to undermine you know staff's

[1:10:42] Voice 6: other efforts just i'm wondering if that's something that's within our remit and if that's

[1:10:46] Voice 6: appropriate um well i'm not hearing any contrary

[1:10:49] Voice 10: opinions so finally so

[1:10:51] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: chair yeah go ahead i can

[1:10:53] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: if you wish i can go um i can actually write a letter to the alc trying to address these issues

[1:11:01] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: make it a basically a multi-part letter all uh coordinated with marlis and then that letter

[1:11:09] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: will express all the concerns that are being raised here today and then we can see what type

[1:11:13] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: of a response we get from the alc does that work for

[1:11:17] Manager of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement: you trustees that'd

[1:11:19] Voice 3: be fantastic yeah okay

[1:11:20] Voice 3: thanks for it and then

[1:11:23] Voice 10: you know it's maybe uh perhaps we'll do a follow-up um at our october

[1:11:28] Voice 10: meeting and if and if um trustees feel that it's appropriate maybe at that time we can maybe then

[1:11:36] Voice 10: seriously write a letter from the local trust committee if we feel that things are not going

[1:11:40] Voice 10: appropriately um and i'm assuming that the status of the property and such will be a little bit more

[1:11:46] Voice 10: clear at that time um because um i i i agree i whether it's technically in our remit or not

[1:11:56] Voice 10: we are the island's trust and you know if we see something going on on an island that we have

[1:12:03] Voice 10: concerns about um i think it's in my personal opinion i think it's appropriate to raise those

[1:12:10] Voice 10: concerns with the appropriate authority even though it might not directly be a responsibility

[1:12:15] Voice 10: you know as advocacy for the island i think that um i i would not have a problem signing a letter

[1:12:21] Voice 10: like that so thank you all right so let's let's leave it parked at that i appreciate

[1:12:28] Voice 11: um

[1:12:29] Voice 10: mr dingman taking the lead on this um and um we'll see what the outcome of that that is um but

[1:12:37] Voice 10: i'm i'm sure that he has those direct comment contacts where he will get really good solid

[1:12:42] Voice 10: feedbacks from that he can give to us that hopefully puts this to bed so thank you all

[1:12:51] Voice 10: All right. Is there anything else?

[1:12:51] Voice 3: Anybody? Trustee Graham?

[1:12:53] Voice 3: Just one more thing, if I may.

[1:12:56] Voice 3: The topic of pre-zoning, it's a real mystery to me.

[1:13:00] Voice 3: And I would really appreciate, I know that we're preparing some materials to share with our community with some questions asked.

[1:13:08] Voice 3: I would really appreciate if the process of pre-zoning and what community input is involved with pre-zoning would really help me understand the process and be able to talk to it with some knowledge with my community.

[1:13:25] Voice 3: Because it's flying around now, and we've heard it from that particular person.

[1:13:29] Voice 3: And I need more information on what it sounds.

[1:13:36] Voice 3: Yeah, it sounds simpler than I think it is.

[1:13:38] Voice 3: I just would like to confirm that there is some community input prior to a pre-zone.

[1:13:44] Voice 3: Anyway, I think you got my gist on that one, Planner McCarver.

[1:13:49] Planner McCargar: Yeah, do you want me to take that question?

[1:13:53] Planner McCargar: So I guess there's a few different things that are kind of being thrown around.

[1:13:58] Planner McCargar: There is, you know, there's a regular rezoning application that anyone can make. There's an LTC initiated rezoning, which the LTC can take the initiative on behalf of a property or, you know, for community benefit or something like that.

[1:14:11] Planner McCargar: And then this pre-zoning idea isn't something that's typically used, but in the context of this current housing review project, there has been some discussion about whether looking at certain parcels of land, because we'll be doing an OCP and LUB amendment at this time,

[1:14:34] Planner McCargar: that it might be appropriate to perhaps just review the OCP designations of land.

[1:14:41] Planner McCargar: So maybe something that was designated as resource could be designated, you know, for multi-housing or community housing, something like that.

[1:14:51] Planner McCargar: But then would still require a rezoning application once development plans had been made.

[1:14:57] Planner McCargar: It's just that they wouldn't need an OCP amendment.

[1:15:00] Planner McCargar: So there would still be a rezoning that would need to take place for a land use bylaw amendment. That's being discussed. And then there's this other idea of zoning land. So doing an OCP designation change and an LUB zoning change for parcels of land based on a certain criteria that hasn't been developed yet.

[1:15:24] Planner McCargar: and would you know that's kind of the discussion that we're looking to have whether this would be

[1:15:29] Planner McCargar: an open call for people to submit proposals yeah we don't know exactly how that would look and it

[1:15:38] Planner McCargar: can be very challenging to determine if a land if land would be suitable for a certain use without

[1:15:45] Planner McCargar: a really comprehensive development plan which a lot of people might not have at this stage they

[1:15:52] Planner McCargar: they might just have concept ideas. So that's just the conversation, I think, that we're having

[1:15:58] Planner McCargar: right now to see what the LTC interest in this would be. And then that would go forward with

[1:16:04] Planner McCargar: this set of LUB and OCP amendments. So it would all be as one package.

[1:16:11] Planner McCargar: Nerissa, did you have anything to add to that?

[1:16:16] Planner Chadwick (probable): I think you explained it really well, Marlis.

[1:16:20] Planner Chadwick (probable): um so yeah

[1:16:21] Planner Chadwick (probable): i think i think you you really uh made it very clear i don't i don't really have that

[1:16:26] Planner Chadwick (probable): much more to add i

[1:16:28] Voice 3: appreciate that explanation that that actually makes me feel a lot more

[1:16:32] Voice 3: comfortable so it's really like a pre-land designation as opposed to a pre-zone because

[1:16:39] Voice 3: you would still have to go through the zoning process which is a full community discussion

[1:16:45] Voice 3: community information meeting you know all the various reports that the local trust committee

[1:16:49] Voice 3: would require. But the land, as you say, it wouldn't require an OCP land designation change

[1:16:55] Voice 3: because it had already been flagged as potentially something that could accommodate an affordable

[1:17:01] Voice 3: housing development.

[1:17:03] Planner McCargar: So that's definitely one option. And then there is the option to do an OCP

[1:17:07] Planner McCargar: and like you could do a designation and a zoning change for particular properties. But like I said,

[1:17:13] Planner McCargar: we would really need to be clear on what that criteria would be. And it would take a sort of

[1:17:19] Planner McCargar: a more evolved project and plans for the LTC to have the confidence to change the zoning?

[1:17:24] Planner McCargar: Because the designation is one thing, it's, you know, the future land use, but then the

[1:17:29] Planner McCargar: zoning is, you know, as you know, where the regulation really comes in and it gets really

[1:17:34] Planner McCargar: specific about what kind of density the land can handle, that type of thing.

[1:17:39] Voice 10: Yeah, I think the language is very, very important.

[1:17:41] Voice 10: It's not pre-zoning.

[1:17:42] Voice 10: It's more like pre-designating because, as noted, there'll be a full rezoning process if somebody wishes to trigger.

[1:17:52] Voice 10: It's more like basically signaling that this is probably an appropriate zone if you're considering doing it.

[1:18:00] Voice 10: Well,

[1:18:01] Planner Chadwick (probable): it's still a choice at this point, right?

[1:18:05] Planner Chadwick (probable): So the choice for the LTC is where your comfort level is.

[1:18:09] Planner Chadwick (probable): If your comfort level is we don't want to change anything, that's one choice. One choice is we want to make it easier for a rezoning to happen to facilitate that kind of a scenario in these areas. That's where you can change the designation.

[1:18:27] Planner Chadwick (probable): or it's this is a fabulous idea we we we feel very confident about all of the elements of it

[1:18:35] Planner Chadwick (probable): um you know we've got enough information um that we feel we can um we can also rezone

[1:18:41] Planner Chadwick (probable): this particular piece of property so there's kind of those those different levels of of wherever the

[1:18:49] Planner Chadwick (probable): ltc's comfort level is there's an opportunity to make a different type of decision excellent

[1:18:57] Voice 10: Excellent. Oh, and now you now look what you've done. You've got everybody's hands up.

[1:19:02] Voice 10: So we'll hand over to Trustee Borthwick because he hasn't had a chance.

[1:19:08] Voice 6: Yeah, I mean, I guess my my desire here is, I mean, as as was pointed out in the presentation, you know, there's not a lot of available places to do this sort of thing.

[1:19:21] Voice 6: So my, I guess my broad desire, I think that it's, it's good for us to develop the systematic

[1:19:28] Voice 6: approach and, and, and that broader sort of view so that, you know, this, you know, determine

[1:19:32] Voice 6: what that ought to be.

[1:19:34] Voice 6: Um, I'm also keen to not entirely get lost in abstraction.

[1:19:38] Voice 6: There is a specific, uh, you know, thing that's being brought forward to us.

[1:19:42] Voice 6: process um and i i you know i'd be keen to uh the the it's the not waiting for the iron to be hot

[1:19:53] Voice 6: to strike but make it hot by striking um which is not to say that i want this to be careless or that

[1:19:59] Voice 6: i don't value you know the the public engagement that should be a part of this process and must be

[1:20:04] Voice 6: uh and and it is you know this is a point that i think both david and i made uh at the presentation

[1:20:10] Voice 6: on the weekend was that you know our job is to listen to everyone and to consider all the things

[1:20:15] Voice 6: and that are we're there is a distinction between um you know trustees and and other elected

[1:20:21] Voice 6: officials where where you're you know speaking purely on behalf of your constituents we have

[1:20:26] Voice 6: you know broader responsibilities um we have to think about things in a different format and we

[1:20:32] Voice 6: represent in many ways we represent the trust to the people not the other way around um nevertheless

[1:20:39] Voice 6: So I'd like to potentially, and I'm curious to know from staff, if something specific is going to go forward, if we are going to specifically make a choice to move forward with this redesignation, pre-zoning, obviously that process is still going to have plenty of public engagement.

[1:21:01] Voice 6: that's going to involve the community um what is the what is the process now because i i have a

[1:21:07] Voice 6: feeling that there's an l there's a there's a degree to which we sort of approve things in

[1:21:13] Voice 6: theory and then don't actually nail them to the ground and make make real movement um is this

[1:21:20] Voice 6: going to unduly complicate the things with the other housing uh project work um if we move

[1:21:28] Voice 6: move something forward specifically is there is this a point where we would maybe ask for a

[1:21:32] Voice 6: business case around this i would just so that i understand what the what a specific step could be

[1:21:37] Voice 6: instead of just sort of nodding our heads and being yes well this is all very useful and good

[1:21:41] Voice 6: and then not doing anything i don't know if my question was clear do we need to ask for a business

[1:21:49] Voice 6: case do we need to ask for something specific um and yeah perhaps trustee graham's comments are

[1:21:55] Voice 6: also going to be germane to this so we can we can wait if you want to collect them at the end

[1:22:00] Voice 6: How

[1:22:02] Voice 10: are you, Trustee Graham?

[1:22:06] Voice 3: I remember an early conversation when the Coho people came to us with their interest in adding some more densities to their application.

[1:22:15] Voice 3: And the question that was asked was, we're not sure if it makes more sense for us to put a rezoning application in or if you want to roll this into your overall housing review.

[1:22:30] Voice 3: review and and we considered it and we said you know what i think i think we want you to to act

[1:22:35] Voice 3: independently and put a rezoning application in and it just seems to be less muddy from from our

[1:22:43] Voice 3: you know our perspective and we're not planners we don't really we're coming from such a a small

[1:22:49] Voice 3: amount of information on this whole thing but it just our guts suggested that and i'm beginning to

[1:22:54] Voice 3: to feel the same way with this application, and I appreciate Planner Chadwick using that word

[1:23:01] Voice 3: comfort. So the thing that keeps me awake at night, those are the things that I'm not comfortable

[1:23:06] Voice 3: with, and I have been rolling around the pre-zoning topic in my head, and because it's not something

[1:23:12] Voice 3: we've ever done before, and I always anticipate a bigger pushback from my community when you

[1:23:17] Voice 3: introduce something that they don't know, and most people arrive with the unknown, and they put the

[1:23:24] Voice 3: a big no but that's we don't that's scary and so I thought gosh you know we don't as

[1:23:31] Voice 3: trustee Borthwick has pointed out we don't want to be hijacked we don't want our process to be

[1:23:35] Voice 3: hijacked by a conversation which we could have avoided had we considered if we're going to look

[1:23:41] Voice 3: at this to merely ask the applicant to you know treat this as a reasoning because that's something

[1:23:46] Voice 3: the community is really comfortable with it's got a fulsome community information aspect to it

[1:23:51] Voice 3: that we as the local trust committee get to ask for all sorts of information to inform our decision.

[1:23:57] Voice 3: And so when you ask, is the local trust committee comfortable, I don't know what the answer is.

[1:24:04] Voice 3: If you ask Trustee Graham if he's comfortable, I'm not really too comfortable with the topic.

[1:24:09] Voice 3: So there I have spoken.

[1:24:11] Voice 11: Thank you.

[1:24:15] Voice 10: All right.

[1:24:15] Voice 10: So planners, any feedback on all that, or are you just going to absorb it?

[1:24:19] Voice 10: I

[1:24:23] Planner McCargar: can say one thing that I will tell people that generally, you know, if they are inquiring with me about rezonings or they have ideas, I say if they, you know, if they want the control, sort of the control, but the real ability to kind of be a bit at the helm of the process, I would suggest putting in an application.

[1:24:49] Planner McCargar: application, because that gives them the certainty that this is going to move forward, you know, they get a planner assigned, and it moves forward in this kind of conventional traditional way. If they opt to just kind of see where this project goes, and what the LTC decides, that's one way to do it, but that is them taking a little bit more of a backseat. And so if they want more certainty, I definitely suggest going the application route.

[1:25:21] Planner McCargar: yeah, that's, that's typically my advice, but it's, it's been done before and maybe not in the

[1:25:27] Planner McCargar: way, maybe this pre-zoning hasn't, this word hasn't been out there as much, but this type of

[1:25:33] Planner McCargar: thing has been done in other situations. You know, zoning has been changed to agriculture land that's

[1:25:41] Planner McCargar: been traditionally used for, for agriculture, you know, that, that type of thing zone, the LTC has

[1:25:46] Planner McCargar: has changed zoning. So it has been done before, but this is looking at it a little bit differently.

[1:25:54] Planner McCargar: And I think if we were going to go this route, we would want to make sure that it's a fair

[1:25:57] Planner McCargar: and transparent process, that it's, and that there is clear criteria of what is needed for the LTC to

[1:26:05] Planner McCargar: consider any kind of development proposal, and that it's open to, you know, whoever wants to

[1:26:13] Planner McCargar: to submit it really it's not just because this one person came came forward at the right time

[1:26:17] Planner McCargar: that it's fair and transparent um and it could open a lot of applications i don't i'm not sure

[1:26:26] Planner McCargar: what what the appetite for something like that would be uh

[1:26:32] Voice 10: yeah

[1:26:34] Planner Chadwick (probable): i was i was just gonna say like

[1:26:35] Planner Chadwick (probable): i mean it it's it's great timing that we had this presentation from um from chard and and and joan

[1:26:42] Planner Chadwick (probable): because it does help to introduce ideas

[1:26:51] Planner Chadwick (probable): and that are part of this discussion

[1:26:55] Planner Chadwick (probable): and have been part of this discussion

[1:26:57] Planner Chadwick (probable): in sort of a lighter way.

[1:27:00] Planner Chadwick (probable): And now there's an opportunity

[1:27:01] Planner Chadwick (probable): to have a much more detailed conversation.

[1:27:05] Planner Chadwick (probable): And as Marlis indicated,

[1:27:09] Planner Chadwick (probable): it's important to keep the process transparent

[1:27:12] Planner Chadwick (probable): parent and provide opportunities for others that may have similar ideas and and that's something

[1:27:19] Planner Chadwick (probable): that we can think about as we move through the process and I think there'll be there'll come a

[1:27:23] Planner Chadwick (probable): decision point soon where you'll have to decide you know where your boundaries on this project are

[1:27:32] Planner Chadwick (probable): in order to move it forward and you know again just coming back to there there may be the

[1:27:40] Planner Chadwick (probable): opportunity to look at designations just to make it a more smoother process for those that are

[1:27:47] Planner Chadwick (probable): looking at this type of approach. For those who are interested with this particular example or

[1:28:01] Planner Chadwick (probable): with others, as Marlis indicated, putting in a rezoning application now doesn't preclude

[1:28:09] Planner Chadwick (probable): the consideration of um of uh of a designation or even rezoning as part of the project but

[1:28:17] Planner Chadwick (probable): it may be it may may get complicated and so you definitely don't want to um you definitely don't

[1:28:25] Planner Chadwick (probable): want to prohibit your ability to you know finish your project by the end of your term um

[1:28:33] Voice 6: so just

[1:28:34] Voice 6: Just in terms of what would be a specific recommendation, because I know that I'm going

[1:28:42] Voice 6: to get a phone call or an email from Char and Joan at some point, and I'm sure Trustee

[1:28:47] Voice 6: Graham is as well, in terms of specific recommendations that we can give them in terms of how this

[1:28:54] Voice 6: ought to move forward and what the process would look like.

[1:28:59] Voice 6: What is the direct next step, I guess?

[1:29:10] Planner Chadwick (probable): Well, like, I guess I think the options have been identified by Marlos and myself.

[1:29:16] Planner Chadwick (probable): So the options for them are they could apply for a rezoning and get that process going.

[1:29:25] Planner Chadwick (probable): There's always also like steps within a rezoning that are critical, whether you're looking at this, like, you know, like as Marlos had indicated,

[1:29:36] Planner Chadwick (probable): Like, if it's something that the LTC is really keen on, the community is very keen on, there's an opportunity for it to be a project by the LTC and moved forward in that way.

[1:29:51] Planner Chadwick (probable): And the, so that if a rezoning application is submitted and they start to go through.

[1:30:00] Planner Chadwick (probable): the process will be able to start to gather more more information um you know

[1:30:04] Planner Chadwick (probable): yeah sorry yeah yeah

[1:30:08] Planner Chadwick (probable): but like i said before that it doesn't preclude the potential the ability to look at the designation

[1:30:13] Planner Chadwick (probable): for example look at elements of what that rezoning might be and uh you know the two key the two pieces

[1:30:21] Planner Chadwick (probable): two key pieces being like looking at the the designation what's allowed within that designation

[1:30:27] Planner Chadwick (probable): And that could be changed as part of this process, which would be like a less, I guess, risky opportunity.

[1:30:35] Planner Chadwick (probable): The actual rezoning of the property to exactly what's envisioned is something that where you'd have to have confidence in, you know, the various factors that would be of concern.

[1:30:48] Planner Chadwick (probable): Water impacts to the environment, et cetera.

[1:30:52] Voice 6: Yeah. Cool. Thank you.

[1:30:57] Voice 10: Any other questions?

[1:30:58] Voice 10: all right it looks like we have reached a conclusion so with that um i would entertain

[1:31:09] Voice 10: a motion to adjourn which no one is enthusiastic to do so moved so moved so seconded call the

[1:31:19] Voice 10: question all in favor we have concluded thank you very much everybody for an enjoyable morning on a

[1:31:26] Voice 10: a sunny day, and I guess we will see within a reasonable period of time.

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       Denman Island Local Trust Committee 
Minutes of Regular Meeting 
 
Date:  
Location:  
July 15, 2025 
Electronic Meeting 
 
Members Present: David Maude, Chair  
 David Graham, Trustee  
 Sam Borthwick, Trustee  
   
Staff Present: Marlis McCargar, Island Planner  
 Narissa Chadwick, Island Planner  
 Warren Dingman, Manager, Bylaw Compliance & Enforcement  
 Lisa Millard, Meeting Administrator/Recorder  
   
Others Present: There were approximately 2 members of the public in attendance.  
 
1. CALL TO ORDER 
Chair Maude called the meeting to order at 10:00 am.   
2. TERRITORIAL ACKNOWLEDGEMENT 
Chair Maude acknowledged that the meeting was held on the territory of the Coast Salish 
First Nations. 
3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 
By general consent, the agenda was approved as presented. 
4. REPORTS 
4.1 Trustee Reports 
Trustee Graham reported the following: 
• Attended Committee of the Whole meeting to finalize proposed edits to the draft 
Policy Statement which is being forwarded to Trust Council for consideration of 
First Reading; 
• Attended an open house hosted by the owners of the Snag property who will be 
presenting as a delegate during the meeting; and 
• Is hearing community concern about a proposed winery operation. 
 
Trustee Borthwick reported the following: 
• Attended Committee of the Whole meeting to work on the draft Policy 
Statement; and 
• Attended presentation at the Snag property. 
 

 
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4.2 Chair's Report 
Chair Maude reported the following: 
• Attended Committee of the Whole meeting and the draft Policy Statement will 
be sent to Trust Council for consideration of First Reading, 
• Attended Trust Council in June; and 
• Noted the southern Gulf Islands are busy with events and tourism activities. 
4.3 Electoral Area Director's Report - none 
4.4 Islands Trust Conservancy Report 
The Islands Trust Conservancy Board Chair reported the following: 
• Islands Trust Conservancy is celebrating 35 years of conservation in the Trust 
Area and currently protects 115 properties totalling over 1380 hectares; 
• The anniversary campaign includes the launch of a blog, social media 
campaign, and fall fair presentations; 
• The Conservancy received a $1,150,000 anonymous donation to support 
acquisitions and care of protected areas with $1,000,000 dedicated to the 
Opportunity Fund and the balance allocated to the Property Management Fund;  
• The Board passed a motion to begin work on an agreement with the Tsartlip and 
Tseycum First Nations through the WSANEC Leadership Council with intent to 
development a respectful mutually beneficial working relationship; and 
• The recent work of the Islands Trust Conservancy Board and staff was 
acknowledged. 
5. PUBLIC COMMENTS 
A member of the public spoke to pre-zoning land and limiting square footage on private land 
and the following comments were noted: 
• They have concerns with pre-zoning land prior to updating the Official Community Plan; 
• The community is currently discussing housing, density banks, and cluster housing. It is 
important to continue these discussions prior to pre-zoning land including, 5400 
Northwest Road, as pre-zoning could limit public input, override thoughtful planning, 
and disrupt the intended balance of densities; 
• The owners of 5400 Northwest Road state the number of people the land can support 
yet the proposal exceeds that number; 
• Density appears to be proposed based on revenue generation; 
• If the proposal is permitted then cluster housing may benefit the land owners instead of 
residents of the Island; and 
• It is unclear how the Local Trust Committee determined the proposed square footage 
limits on private land, and regulating house size to influence market resale value 
appears misaligned with freedom of choice. 
6. MINUTES 
6.1 Local Trust Committee Special Meeting Minutes dated May 8, 2025 - for 
adoption 

 
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By general consent, the Denman Island Local Trust Committee special 
meeting minutes of May 8, 2025 were adopted. 
6.2 Local Trust Committee Minutes dated May 20, 2025 - for adoption 
By general consent, the Denman Island Local Trust Committee meeting 
minutes of May 20, 2025 were adopted. 
6.3 Section 26 Resolutions-Without-Meeting Report - none 
6.4 Advisory Planning Commission Minutes - none 
7. BUSINESS ARISING FROM MINUTES 
7.1 Follow-up Action List dated July 8, 2025 
The Planner provided a verbal update on the Follow-up Action List.  
8. DELEGATIONS 
8.1 Richard Day and Joan Donaghey regarding 5400 Northwest Road, Denman 
Island - 10 Affordable Dwelling Units 
The delegation spoke to the following: 
• The Snag Housing Co-op has requested the Denman Local Trust Committee 
pre-zone the property located at 5400 Northwest Road for a total of 10 units of 
housing in two clusters to be owned by a not-for-profit housing co-op; 
• The intent is not to generate revenue but to operate as a not-for-profit; 
• The proposal aligns with the Official Community Plan and Denman Housing 
Action Plan; 
• The property is 42 acres currently zoned RE (Resource) and not in the 
Agricultural Land Reserve,  
• Proposal allows for 10 units of clustered housing, a 4-site campground, 
community garden, and common areas including event space; 
• Individuals would purchase shares and not own property; 
• The property is located in steep slopes and wetlands Development Permit Areas 
2 and 4 and proposed housing is setback 40 to 70 metres from the sensitive 
areas; 
• Removing the property from the Resource zone will take it off the market by way 
of not-for-profit housing; 
• Affordable housing component would include a buy in of approximately $75,000 
for a half acre lot provided alternative dwellings with lower building costs are 
permitted; 
• Feedback received from recent information session garnered support; 
• Concerns about traffic and tourism will be taken into account; 
• There is very little land available for affordable housing and few people willing to 
share their land; and 
• More information can be found on thesnag.org website. 
The delegation stated they will continue to hold information sessions and evolve 
their proposal and inquired about next steps. 

 
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The Planner noted the conventional path is through a rezoning application. However, 
there are also opportunities to review the Official Community Plan designation and 
consider site-specific pre-zoning. The Local Trust Committee can decide how much 
they wish to support the proposal within the scope of the current Housing Project. 
9. APPLICATIONS AND REFERRALS - none 
10. LOCAL TRUST COMMITTEE PROJECTS - none 
11. CORRESPONDENCE 
(Correspondence received concerning current applications or projects is posted to the 
Local Trust Committee webpage) 
11.1 Email dated May 29, 2025 from Comox Valley Regional District regarding Comox 
Valley Regional Growth Strategy Minor Amendment Referral 
The Planner stated staff will be preparing a referral response which will be shared 
with the Local Trust Committee. 
12. NEW BUSINESS  
By general consent a new item of business will be added to the agenda to schedule 
a community engagement session. 
The Planner noted that staff are preparing key materials for the July 26 community 
engagement session. Previous discussions indicated a preference for weekend timing, and 
Saturday September 20
th
 has been identified as a potential date for future engagement 
session. 
Trustee Borthwick left the meeting at 10:51 a.m. and returned at 10:53 a.m. 
DE-2025-046 
It was MOVED and SECONDED,  
that the Denman Islands Local Trust Committee request staff to schedule a 
community engagement session to discuss the housing project in September or 
October, 2025. 
CARRIED 
 
Discussion ensued regarding the process of pre-zoning, and the following questions, 
comments, and clarifications were noted: 
• Information materials regarding the process of pre-zoning should be made available at 
public engagement sessions; 
• There has been some discussion about reviewing Official Community Plan designations 
and identifying areas suitable for housing; however, these would still require a rezoning 
application; 
• The term pre-zoning is appropriate when referring to land use bylaw changes; however, 
when discussing changes to the Official Community Plan, it may be more accurate to 
describe it as a redesignation process; 

 
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• There is an option to change both the Official Community Plan designation and zoning 
for particular properties, with amendments to the Official Community Plan and Land 
Use Bylaw following thorough and transparent community consultation; and 
• If a property owner wishes to lead a project, submitting a rezoning application is 
advisable to ensure the proposal advances in alignment with their vision. 
 
Discussion ensued regarding community concern about activity occurring on a property 
within the Agricultural Land Reserve. The Bylaw Enforcement and Compliance Manager 
noted they can contact the Agricultural Land Commission to request an update on the file 
and advise of any concerns raised by the Local Trust Committee.  
13. STAFF REPORTS 
13.1 Trust Council Bylaw No. 197 - Local Trust Committee Meeting Procedure Bylaw - 
Request for Decision 
Trustee Borthwick noted a Trust Council resolution passed by 2/3 majority vote 
which will standardize the Local Trust Committee Meeting Procedure Bylaw and the 
new bylaw is essentially the same as the local bylaw which is now superseded. 
 
DE-2025-047 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
                                                that the Denman Island Local Trust Committee give Bylaw 258, cited as  
                                                 “Denman Island Local Trust Committee Meeting Procedures Repeal Bylaw 
                                                  No. 258, 2025”, First Reading. 
CARRIED 
DE-2025-048 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
                                                that the Denman Island Local Trust Committee give Bylaw 258, cited as 
                                                 “Denman Island Local Trust Committee Meeting Procedures Repeal Bylaw 
                                                  No. 258, 2025”, Second Reading. 
CARRIED 
DE-2025-049 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
                                                that the Denman Island Local Trust Committee give Bylaw 258, cited as 
                                                “Denman Island Local Trust Committee Meeting Procedures Repeal Bylaw  
                                                 No. 258, 2025”, Third Reading. 
CARRIED 
DE-2025-050 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
                                                that the Denman Island Local Trust Committee forward Bylaw 258, cited as  
                                                “Denman Island Local Trust Committee Meeting Procedures Repeal Bylaw      
                                                 No. 258, 2025” to the Islands Trust Executive Committee for consideration  
                                                 of approval. 
CARRIED 
 

 
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13.2 Trust Conservancy - The Heron - Spring Edition 
Received for information. 
13.3 Trust Conservancy Board Report dated June 5, 2025 
Received for information. 
13.4 Applications Report dated July 8, 2025 
Received for information. 
13.5 Trustee and Local Expense Report dated May, 2025 
Received for information. 
13.6 Adopted Policies and Standing Resolutions 
Received for information. 
13.7 First Nations Relationship Building Update - none 
13.8 Local Trust Committee Webpage – none 
14. WORK PROGRAM 
14.1 Active Projects Report dated July 8, 2025 
Received for information. 
14.2 Future Projects Report dated July 8, 2025 
Received for information. 
15. UPCOMING MEETINGS 
15.1 Next Regular Meeting Scheduled for Tuesday, October 21, 2025 at 10:00 a.m. at 
Denman Activity Centre, 1111 Northwest Road, Denman Island, BC 
16. ADJOURNMENT 
By general consent, the meeting was adjourned at 11:31 a.m. 
 
 
_________________________ 
David Maude, Chair 
 
Certified Correct: 
 
 
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Lisa Millard, Meeting Administrator/Recorder