Galiano Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, October 14, 2025

[0:00:00] Voice 4: Committee meeting. For those of you who are curious, I'm David Maud. I'm from Main Island.

[0:00:07] Voice 4: I'm substituting in for your normal chair, Tim Peterson, because he's on Laskini Island and

[0:00:12] Voice 4: their ferry has broken down. So we did a little bit of swapping around yesterday and figured out

[0:00:19] Voice 4: I was the closest person, so I have arrived. So please be patient. I'm probably going to

[0:00:27] Voice 4: screw something up, so we'll get it figured out. Anyhow, Blake, thank you for joining us today for

[0:00:32] Voice 4: this regular meeting of the Galeano Local Trust Committee. I'm David Mott. I'm elected to Maine

[0:00:38] Voice 4: Island, and I am today the chair of the Galeano Local Trust Committee. I'm joined today by your

[0:00:45] Voice 4: Galeano Local Trust Committee members, Ben Maverly and Lisa Gavirone, and I'd like to thank them for

[0:00:52] Voice 4: hosting me, making my life a little easier. So together we make up the Galeano Local Trust

[0:00:57] Voice 4: Committee. This meeting is being live screened and recorded for those who are unable to attend

[0:01:01] Voice 4: in person today. The recording will be posted to the Honest Trust website for future viewing.

[0:01:05] Voice 4: We have some staff members joining us today. I believe we have Stefan Cermak, who is our

[0:01:13] Voice 4: director of planning services. And I'm assuming that Alex Trefani is doing our web hosting

[0:01:20] Voice 4: to our very much appreciation

[0:01:22] Voice 4: and likely doing the meeting minutes also.

[0:01:26] Voice 4: As you know, there is a PCGEU strike on right now.

[0:01:31] Voice 4: And so we're very, very thin on staff.

[0:01:33] Voice 4: So part of that is there was supposed to be

[0:01:37] Voice 4: a community information meeting

[0:01:38] Voice 4: about the trust policy statement.

[0:01:40] Voice 4: That unfortunately is going to have to be deferred

[0:01:42] Voice 4: to a future meeting

[0:01:43] Voice 4: where we can have the appropriate staff

[0:01:45] Voice 4: to attend and do this thing properly for the community.

[0:01:48] Voice 4: So we apologize for the late deletion of that,

[0:01:52] Voice 4: but we're just trying to produce

[0:01:55] Voice 4: the best possible meeting possible.

[0:01:58] Voice 4: Just want to finish off by saying this meeting

[0:01:59] Voice 4: is an official forum for your local trust committee

[0:02:01] Voice 4: to make decisions about land use planning matters

[0:02:04] Voice 4: and the scapegoat of the business,

[0:02:05] Voice 4: and that this is a place of employment

[0:02:07] Voice 4: and our staff have the right to a safe

[0:02:09] Voice 4: and respectful workplace.

[0:02:12] Voice 4: So we'll just have territorial acknowledgement

[0:02:16] Voice 4: if the trustee may or may not want to

[0:02:18] Voice 6: Yeah, thank you, Chair. This one I'll acknowledge. We're holding this meeting today in the territory

[0:02:23] Voice 6: of the Malacate Tribe, whose lands on Galliano that have been signed on for it. It's also home

[0:02:29] Voice 6: to the Coast Salish peoples of Galliano and the Georgia Sea Band. So, yeah.

[0:02:34] Voice 4: Thank you, Chair. All right, so we have an agenda before us. I don't know. I'm just,

[0:02:42] Voice 4: I'm trying to get up to speed. I believe it's intact as published. There's no further deletions

[0:02:48] Voice 4: on that uh

[0:02:48] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): nope any

[0:02:50] Voice 4: additions any

[0:02:51] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): no additions no it's just community information yeah

[0:02:54] Voice 4: it's so

[0:02:55] Voice 4: my understanding is it was actually taken off the agenda before this was published

[0:03:01] Voice 4: but it didn't say none they didn't put in the none part so yeah

[0:03:05] Voice 6: we're

[0:03:06] Voice 4: acknowledging the none

[0:03:07] Voice 4: um so by general consent we can adopt the agenda as circulated excellent um so we get right into

[0:03:15] Voice 4: it with trustees' reports. Who wants to be the first? Trustee Garbaro.

[0:03:19] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): I'll go first, thank you, and thank you for coming. Nice to have you here.

[0:03:25] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): All right, it's been a very busy and interesting month. I have a few new roles, and I've had some

[0:03:32] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): really great learning opportunities. I recently stepped in to the role of chair for the

[0:03:37] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Accessibility Committee, where this group is working towards the creation of an accessibility

[0:03:44] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): accessibility action plan for the Islands Trust, and we're in the process.

[0:03:48] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): The goal is to make our spaces more

[0:03:51] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): inclusive and accessible to residents of adult violence.

[0:03:56] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): We're looking for and trying to understand where barriers exist.

[0:04:00] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): We're also looking for some more board

[0:04:03] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): members, if anybody's interested in this work.

[0:04:05] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): It's very rewarding and

[0:04:08] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): there's some pretty great people serving on the board.

[0:04:11] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): David Mott is now on the board as well. So if you are interested and want to learn more about it,

[0:04:17] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): just email me. Lately I also attended the Laskiti Archaeological Project webinar. It's called

[0:04:27] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Protecting and Honouring Indigenous Heritage Through Archaeology, Policy and Planning. And it's

[0:04:34] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): It's powerful to see how archaeology, when it's led by Indigenous communities, can become

[0:04:41] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): a tool for healing and for truth-telling, not just data collection.

[0:04:47] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Also had an Allen's Trust Conservancy meeting this month and continued working towards conservation

[0:04:56] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): planning.

[0:04:58] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Mostly the last meeting was about business cases, which are going to now travel to financial

[0:05:04] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): planning committee. Last Friday I

[0:05:08] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): took part of a chair training session and it's

[0:05:12] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): great as a chance for some personal development. It's good to reflect on

[0:05:18] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): how we lead our meetings and support respectful discussion and how do we keep

[0:05:25] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): our work moving. And then finally at LTC we had a special meeting and it was

[0:05:32] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): focused on the associated islands regulation review and it was great to hear from the residents

[0:05:38] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): of Wise Island and Parker Island about shoreline setbacks, solar panels and the realities of living

[0:05:45] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): off grid. I learned a lot and I'm very thankful to everyone that participated. I wanted to take

[0:05:53] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): a moment to say a few words about the end of the day. Last Thursday was in celebration of life at

[0:06:01] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): the North Hall and it was packed. A standing room only which really says a

[0:06:08] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): lot about the kind of person that Ian was and how many people cared about him.

[0:06:13] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Ian was a remarkable man and a good friend and I wanted, I always admired

[0:06:19] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): most about him was his disciplined nature. He had this steady sense of

[0:06:25] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): responsibility when it came to his friends and to the community and he

[0:06:30] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): He never really thought that any job was too hard

[0:06:34] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): or any commercial dishwasher was too heavy.

[0:06:39] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): He helped me a lot at the restaurant.

[0:06:42] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): He never thought those were hard things to do

[0:06:44] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): or he never thought of himself.

[0:06:46] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): He just meant that he was solving a problem.

[0:06:50] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): That's just who he was.

[0:06:52] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): He gave so much of himself to others

[0:06:54] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): and I think we all learned something

[0:06:56] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): from the way that he lived his life.

[0:06:59] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): He'll be missed deeply

[0:07:00] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): deeply. And I know that his kindness is an example that will stay with us. Thank you.

[0:07:07] Voice 4: Mr.

[0:07:08] Voice 5: Mayor, I just heard from someone who's trying to log in and they can't appear.

[0:07:17] Voice 4: Okay, we will. It's obviously being stuff so we seem to have issues with people logging into the meetings. Thank you.

[0:07:24] Voice 4: Thank you.

[0:07:25] Voice 4: Trustee Mayer.

[0:07:26] Voice 4: Okay.

[0:07:26] Voice 6: Thank you.

[0:07:27] Voice 6: Thanks, Lisa.

[0:07:28] Voice 6: Thanks for that.

[0:07:29] Voice 6: Thanks for that.

[0:07:33] Voice 6: Last month, or this month, I had the privilege to attend the ceremonies at the North End

[0:07:40] Voice 6: Hall and at the Yellow House for North Shore Day, one at the North End led by Michelle

[0:07:46] Voice 6: Crocker and the Yellow House by Rosemary Jordison.

[0:07:49] Voice 6: It was just great on those two days to be able to interact and, you know, with all the

[0:07:55] Voice 6: attended and uh and to get those perspectives from two different points on the island uh for

[0:08:01] Voice 6: one shirt day so that that was that was well worth it and um i just want to give a big shout out

[0:08:06] Voice 6: the biggest pumpkin in the province and won the competition in vancouver so good for him

[0:08:16] Voice 6: uh i see right up in the times colonist about it so well good for me let's put gallium on the map

[0:08:27] Voice 6: so yeah

[0:08:28] Voice 6: it's fun to hear that

[0:08:29] Voice 6: so okay thank you

[0:08:32] Voice 4: yes indeed it was

[0:08:34] Voice 4: nice to open perhaps call us yesterday

[0:08:36] Voice 4: see a bright orange

[0:08:38] Voice 4: pumpkin normally those things are so ugly

[0:08:39] Voice 4: the big ones this one was a brilliant orange

[0:08:42] Voice 4: so you've done good so

[0:08:43] Voice 4: you

[0:08:43] Voice 3: guys are wonderful

[0:08:45] Voice 4: farmers

[0:08:46] Voice 3: storing in a container

[0:08:49] Voice 3: I hope to open up

[0:08:51] Voice 3: without

[0:08:54] Voice 4: most wonderful um okay so chair's report um fairly basic and as you're all aware um bcgu

[0:09:02] Voice 4: strife has made things rather complex for for island's trust is um if there is any doubt is

[0:09:11] Voice 4: the value of trust staff take them away is uh it is so critical everybody who works the trust

[0:09:20] Voice 4: we have wonderful staff who do wonderful work and when suddenly 50 odd of your colleagues are no

[0:09:27] Voice 4: longer available as resources it makes life very very difficult um and from the executive we've

[0:09:34] Voice 4: been struggling a lot to make things happen um today's meeting is a good example we just we can't

[0:09:39] Voice 4: do the community information meeting what policy statements we've cancelled them across the trust

[0:09:44] Voice 4: until the strike is over because we need to have the proper resources to do these

[0:09:49] Voice 4: meetings properly so and literally as I look at my phone we're cancelling more

[0:09:54] Voice 4: and more meetings local trust committee meetings were just cancelled then and

[0:09:59] Voice 4: again so it's it's very very tough hopefully this will be resolved shortly

[0:10:04] Voice 4: and we can get back to some semblance of normality the trust policy statement as

[0:10:10] Voice 4: as you all know is has reached first reading and it is now for public consultation um so far um

[0:10:17] Voice 4: the feedback we've been getting has been very good um people are providing some pretty solid

[0:10:24] Voice 4: input both positive and negative which really sort of helps feed um the final product um

[0:10:33] Voice 4: next spring look forward to seeing what the what the next draft is going to be

[0:10:38] Voice 4: The interesting thing I've found as a trustee is that the last iteration of the Trust Policy

[0:10:44] Voice 4: Statement a couple of years ago, I couldn't go anywhere for months without people wanting

[0:10:50] Voice 4: to bend my ear about this or that.

[0:10:54] Voice 4: This latest version, I've had almost nobody approach me.

[0:11:00] Voice 4: I think we're getting closer to closer to something that the constituents are happy

[0:11:07] Voice 4: happy with. Nothing's ever perfect, but I think that we've worked hard to get it right

[0:11:15] Voice 4: and I think we're getting closer. So that I think is immensely popular, our positive.

[0:11:23] Voice 4: We're now getting into the budget cycle, which is causing endless amounts of sleepless nights

[0:11:32] Voice 4: because when you run an organization

[0:11:36] Voice 4: besides the trust

[0:11:37] Voice 4: we have to recognize

[0:11:39] Voice 4: everything's becoming more expensive

[0:11:42] Voice 4: and so there's the

[0:11:44] Voice 4: honorable goal to not have

[0:11:46] Voice 4: tax increases or budget increases

[0:11:48] Voice 4: but this year

[0:11:50] Voice 4: I think it's going to be very very tough

[0:11:56] Voice 4: I'm looking at the preliminary budget

[0:11:58] Voice 4: requests

[0:11:59] Voice 4: and there are a lot of them

[0:12:01] Voice 4: and so we need to

[0:12:04] Voice 4: work together

[0:12:07] Voice 4: I think there's going to be a lot of meetings with the Financial Planning Committee, and

[0:12:13] Voice 4: I'm just going to lose more hair, I think.

[0:12:16] Voice 4: I think I'll leave it at that.

[0:12:19] Voice 4: We're having an interesting fall, one like no other, and we're just rolling punches,

[0:12:25] Voice 4: so thank you.

[0:12:26] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Yeah.

[0:12:29] Voice 4: Lecture of the Oratorial Director of Support, Paul Brent is not available today, unfortunately,

[0:12:35] Voice 4: so hopefully next meeting he will be here to tell you with all the great

[0:12:39] Voice 4: things happening with CRD. Do we have First Nations representative?

[0:12:43] Voice 6: I spoke with

[0:12:44] Voice 6: Tom this morning and he said his regrets. He noticed that the agenda was pared down a bit so I figured I

[0:12:53] Voice 6: would sit here for the next time.

[0:12:56] Voice 6: Okay.

[0:12:56] Voice 4: Thank you very much. All right. So we now get to town hall. I don't know how it goes on Galeano, but generally speaking, we allow two to three minutes per person to speak on matters related to the local trust committee.

[0:13:18] Voice 4: I don't tend to be the one sitting there with the stopwatch, so kind of ask you to self-regulate.

[0:13:25] Voice 4: If it gets to the point you're going on and on and on and on and repeating, we'll probably

[0:13:29] Voice 4: ask you to sort of bring it to a conclusion.

[0:13:34] Voice 4: But just if you raise your hands, if you just identify yourself to the Local Trust Committee

[0:13:38] Voice 4: and the Recording Secretary, just so we know who you are, we will go with that.

[0:13:42] Voice 4: So anybody want to speak to the Local Trust Committee?

[0:13:47] Voice 4: Go ahead.

[0:13:47] Voice 6: My name is Dan Nelson, a full-time resident from Lyons Island.

[0:13:51] Voice 6: I just wanted to say thanks again for getting the Associated Islands by-law review started.

[0:13:56] Voice 6: It's been a long time, almost over two years that we passed that, so we're all, everybody's looking forward to doing that.

[0:14:03] Voice 7: And the only other thing

[0:14:05] Voice 6: I gotta say is the parking lot view.

[0:14:06] Voice 6: I can promise you guys were involved in that, Ben. Thank you for that.

[0:14:11] Voice 6: Really, everybody seems to really like that parking set up there, and thanks a lot for doing that.

[0:14:15] Voice 6: that really makes life in the wild get easier for everybody so thanks that's all i have to say thank

[0:14:22] Voice 2: you

[0:14:22] Voice 11: yes i would like to request for the next community information about the trust policy

[0:14:31] Voice 11: statement to be done not in a regular meeting but in a special meeting in a day and time that most

[0:14:41] Voice 11: people of the island can come, especially the young people of the world.

[0:14:46] Voice 11: Because usually at this time, only the retired people, people who are younger,

[0:14:52] Voice 11: can come. And I think it's such an important thing, the drop of the policy system,

[0:15:02] Voice 11: that as many people can come to the table. So

[0:15:08] Voice 11: my name is Sanjit Dharaman.

[0:15:09] Voice 11: Thank

[0:15:10] Voice 4: you. So, trustees, did

[0:15:11] Voice 4: you want to maybe put something on a new business, just to discuss?

[0:15:18] Voice 4: Because we could perhaps just do a motion requesting staff consider it.

[0:15:22] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): A new meeting time?

[0:15:24] Voice 4: Yeah.

[0:15:25] Voice 4: Because naturally, because staff are not available to sort of indicate availability, we can maybe just do a motion just requesting that staff review the possibilities for options for the LTC to consider.

[0:15:39] Voice 4: but if you want to do it under new business we can we can do that yeah

[0:15:43] Voice 8: we need to reschedule it

[0:15:46] Voice 8: anyway we need a discussion around that discussion

[0:15:49] Voice 6: is around you know when we get staff back exactly

[0:15:54] Voice 6: yeah we get staff back yeah

[0:15:57] Voice 4: but we can we can ask for the option so yeah

[0:16:00] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): it'd be like a weekend

[0:16:01] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): can be yeah yeah

[0:16:03] Voice 10: pretty much i

[0:16:05] Voice 10: would just um a couple of things but i'd like to support what

[0:16:10] Voice 10: carmita has suggested as well because um i would suggest that maybe the reason you're not hearing

[0:16:16] Voice 10: very much about it certainly on galliano my experience is most people don't know anything

[0:16:22] Voice 10: about it and um i i think people got kind of worn out with the last go around when there actually

[0:16:29] Voice 10: were staff coming on the island and meeting with people and talking to people at the day star and

[0:16:35] Voice 10: it was a much more um personal person friendly kind of a thing where people could ask a lot of

[0:16:43] Voice 10: questions in a less formal way and i think it's really unfortunate that that isn't happening this

[0:16:50] Voice 10: time and i i don't think the online webinar was a very good example of engaging with with public

[0:16:57] Voice 10: So, I'm just supporting Kermita's suggestion as well.

[0:17:01] Voice 10: I don't think shoehorning it into an LTC meeting

[0:17:04] Voice 10: during the day is really making it very accessible

[0:17:07] Voice 10: if we're talking about accessibility to the public.

[0:17:12] Voice 10: A couple of other things, I just wanted to know if,

[0:17:17] Voice 10: because Dan had mentioned it at the last actual LTC meeting

[0:17:21] Voice 10: that funding was imminently possibly going to be announced

[0:17:26] Voice 10: for the housing project to step the road if you could report on on that and the

[0:17:33] Voice 10: second thing was I wanted to ask if an amendment could be considered to the

[0:17:40] Voice 10: minutes of the last meeting it's it's item 21 so the second town hall and the

[0:17:48] Voice 10: The first item, which talks about adding exemptions,

[0:17:55] Voice 10: adding exemption Q to other DPA areas,

[0:18:00] Voice 10: that was actually said by Trustee Maverly.

[0:18:04] Voice 10: It sounds like it was coming from,

[0:18:06] Voice 10: as a comment by the member of the public.

[0:18:08] Voice 10: And I'd like to ask that that be,

[0:18:11] Voice 10: that an amendment be considered to just identify

[0:18:13] Voice 10: that that was a response from a trustee.

[0:18:19] Voice 10: Thank you.

[0:18:19] Voice 7: Okay.

[0:18:20] Voice 7: Thank you.

[0:18:21] Voice 7: I mean, yeah.

[0:18:22] Voice 6: So I'll just pull up.

[0:18:24] Voice 6: I spoke with Stephen Henderson, and we haven't heard yet.

[0:18:27] Voice 6: We think probably the strike is a bad thing.

[0:18:29] Voice 6: We'll love a lot of that stuff.

[0:18:31] Voice 6: But, you know, he's still very confident.

[0:18:34] Voice 6: It's a very good allocation.

[0:18:37] Voice 6: So, yeah, I'll comment on the other thing when we get to the minutes.

[0:18:42] Voice 6: Steps off.

[0:18:44] Voice 4: Anybody else wish to address the local trust committee?

[0:18:50] Voice 4: Okay.

[0:18:50] Voice 4: Well, thank you very much.

[0:18:52] Voice 4: and we will move right into the minutes um so we have local trust committee made minutes

[0:18:59] Voice 4: dated september 9th for adoption um were those the minutes in question they

[0:19:06] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): were right yes

[0:19:07] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): sorry i'm just i'm trying to find the page number so

[0:19:12] Voice 2: it's page 14.

[0:19:14] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): 14 or 10 minutes on speech review.

[0:19:21] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Any exemption queue that that one? Yeah, that one. You wanted

[0:19:25] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): to see what change? I

[0:19:27] Voice 10: just thought it should be noted that

[0:19:28] Voice 10: that was the response from a trustee. It sort of reads like

[0:19:31] Voice 10: it was a response. Oh, right.

[0:19:36] Voice 6: Well, I was I was answering a question. Yeah,

[0:19:38] Voice 10: you were you

[0:19:39] Voice 10: would ask

[0:19:39] Voice 6: the question. And I think my response was during

[0:19:43] Voice 6: an OCP review, of course, we're going to consider all input.

[0:19:46] Voice 7: Yeah. I

[0:19:47] Voice 6: mean, no matter who it's

[0:19:48] Voice 6: from, right? So, I mean, it's, I didn't suggest we were going to add exception P to. No, no.

[0:19:55] Voice 10: It's just that it sounds like it's a comment by a member

[0:19:58] Voice 10: of the public. My only

[0:20:00] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): suggestion

[0:20:01] Voice 10: is that be identified as an answer from a trustee.

[0:20:05] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): I don't know that we can do that

[0:20:06] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): with the Minnesota because, like, the last bullet, Janine Georgeson joins Ellen's Trust

[0:20:11] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): conservancy board that was my comment during the town hall

[0:20:15] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): right and then there's often that those

[0:20:18] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): comments in general are called are captured that's

[0:20:22] Voice 10: fine i

[0:20:23] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): don't know how i don't i don't

[0:20:25] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): don't think i've ever seen that i would say trustee said this yeah i've

[0:20:30] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): said that see not

[0:20:30] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): under discussion for applications but not in the town hall i don't know maybe we have david here

[0:20:36] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): maybe yeah

[0:20:37] Voice 4: no it's normally town hall like you say is is fairly generic in the way that

[0:20:41] Voice 4: that is submitted so it's just captured

[0:20:44] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): okay

[0:20:45] Voice 4: thank you okay

[0:20:47] Voice 4: so otherwise there any other

[0:20:49] Voice 4: there

[0:20:49] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): was one other uh email that we received and it was uh town hall comments again and it was on

[0:20:56] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): page six so

[0:21:00] Voice 4: page six

[0:21:01] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): yeah with a comment about BC builds it was

[0:21:06] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): from yeah the

[0:21:07] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): last bullet on page six regarding the affordable housing project information

[0:21:11] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): about the BC build grant it's actually not the BC build grants community

[0:21:15] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Community Housing Plan.

[0:21:16] Voice 6: I think we made that correction too at the time.

[0:21:19] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Right?

[0:21:20] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Yeah.

[0:21:20] Voice 6: Yeah.

[0:21:22] Voice 4: So if the recording secretary has captured that, I'm hoping.

[0:21:30] Voice 1: Searching for the now chair.

[0:21:33] Voice 4: So it's the bottom of page six.

[0:21:36] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Yep, and that bullet stretches to page top of page seven.

[0:21:39] Voice 1: Let me see it.

[0:21:41] Voice 1: BC Build Grant, change it to Community Housing.

[0:21:45] Voice 1: What was the correct terminology?

[0:21:48] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Yeah, it shouldn't say BC Building Grant.

[0:21:50] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): It should say BC Housing's Community Housing Fund.

[0:21:56] Voice 2: Noted.

[0:21:57] Voice 2: Excellent.

[0:21:58] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): And then one more, instead of saying that finding funding available for the first phase,

[0:22:07] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): which includes half the buildings, it should say funding is available for infrastructure

[0:22:14] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): and site preparation as part of the first phase.

[0:22:18] Voice 4: So that's the top of page seven.

[0:22:20] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Yeah.

[0:22:23] Voice 1: For infrastructure and

[0:22:26] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): site preparation.

[0:22:32] Voice 1: Got it.

[0:22:35] Voice 4: Anything else?

[0:22:37] Voice 4: Not at all.

[0:22:38] Voice 4: So by general consent, we

[0:22:40] Voice 4: will adopt those minutes as amended.

[0:22:43] Voice 4: Okay.

[0:22:43] Voice 4: So 11.2, page 16, we have local trust committee special meeting minutes of September 19th.

[0:22:50] Voice 4: Anything on those?

[0:22:52] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): I have nothing.

[0:22:53] Voice 4: No.

[0:22:53] Voice 4: So by general consent, we'll adopt those.

[0:22:55] Voice 4: Yep.

[0:22:57] Voice 4: We have, before us, Advisory Planning Committee Commission meetings

[0:23:00] Voice 4: dated August 29th, September 9th, and September 23rd.

[0:23:06] Voice 4: Wonderful work.

[0:23:08] Voice 4: Very much

[0:23:08] Voice 4: appreciate the work of the Advisory Planning Committee.

[0:23:12] Voice 4: It's had a chance to poke my nose into them last night and lots of stuff.

[0:23:17] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): They've been busy, eh?

[0:23:17] Voice 4: Yeah.

[0:23:18] Voice 4: Good work.

[0:23:20] Voice 4: So those are just for receipt.

[0:23:22] Voice 4: So thank you all very much for those.

[0:23:24] Voice 4: numbers. So we move down to business horizon for the minutes. We have a follow-up action

[0:23:32] Voice 4: list for October 2025. Any questions or comments or concerns? Done. So we move down to correspondence.

[0:23:45] Voice 4: response we have on phase 32 we have from Stefano Breivik uh read local trust committee standing

[0:23:52] Voice 4: resolution 2009-085 trustees anything you want to um

[0:24:01] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): yeah this stems from a um variance application

[0:24:07] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): that we saw last time uh I had a feeling that maybe um Mr Rybak certainly has a point um but

[0:24:15] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): But I think maybe we should refer the resolution, perhaps, to the park,

[0:24:20] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): rather than trying to change the resolution ourself.

[0:24:25] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): I suggest that maybe a staff reach out to the Parks and Recs Commission

[0:24:28] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): and see what they feel.

[0:24:31] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): This standing resolution is from 2009.

[0:24:34] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): We should see maybe if the park has the capacity or any thoughts on it

[0:24:38] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): before we actually make a reasonable resolution, right?

[0:24:44] Voice 6: No, I agree.

[0:24:45] Voice 6: I think he makes a great point. It should be referred to them at some point, however it gets there.

[0:24:52] Voice 6: But I agree with you, we should put it to the Parks Commission first and then see what they have an answer for that.

[0:24:58] Voice 6: In order that one needs to come back to us and we put our resolution.

[0:25:01] Voice 6: If there's no, if the Parks Commission wants us to change our resolution.

[0:25:08] Voice 4: So how would you like to structure this? Do you want to just refer this to Parks Commission or do you want to do it through staff?

[0:25:15] Voice 6: Well, we normally do it through staff, because that's how we can get the answer back on what we wanted to do, right?

[0:25:23] Voice 6: Yep.

[0:25:24] Voice 6: So we have to refer it through staff. So whenever that happens, it happens.

[0:25:29] Voice 6: I

[0:25:29] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): have a motion.

[0:25:30] Voice 4: Okay, so there we go. That's what we're looking for.

[0:25:33] Voice 4: Great.

[0:25:34] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): I move that the Galeano Local Trust Committee request staff to contact Park and Rec's Commission for feedback on Standing Resolutions 2009-085.

[0:25:50] Voice 4: That makes sense.

[0:25:53] Voice 4: Yeah.

[0:25:54] Voice 4: You got that recording, Secretary?

[0:25:58] Voice 1: I will repeat it back to you, Chair.

[0:26:01] Voice 1: Thank you.

[0:26:02] Voice 1: The Galeano Local Trust Committee requests staff to contact Parks and Recreation Commission for feedback on Standing Resolution 2009-085.

[0:26:13] Voice 4: That makes sense.

[0:26:14] Voice 4: All right.

[0:26:14] Voice 4: All right.

[0:26:15] Voice 4: With that, any further discussion?

[0:26:18] Voice 4: Call the question, all in favor?

[0:26:19] Voice 4: That carries.

[0:26:21] Voice 4: Excellent.

[0:26:22] Voice 4: All right.

[0:26:23] Voice 4: So we have now 14.2, Managed Forest Council re-removal of land from the Managed Forest Program.

[0:26:31] Voice 4: Can

[0:26:31] Voice 6: I just comment on this? So this is very common. Anybody who's in the managed

[0:26:36] Voice 6: forest in the PMFL, when a piece of that property has been sold, you have a timeline to report

[0:26:42] Voice 6: back to the PMFL as to who the new owners are, and then a certain amount of time after

[0:26:47] Voice 6: that to submit a new management plan. In this case, the owner decided not to, or missed

[0:26:55] Voice 6: the timeline one of the two and uh and so it's automatically so that's always yeah right

[0:27:03] Voice 6: so

[0:27:03] Voice 8: this

[0:27:04] Voice 4: is just simply a notification it's

[0:27:06] Voice 6: a notification of the pmfl and somebody that's

[0:27:09] Voice 6: failed to be the timeline or as the artist decided not to meet time right so

[0:27:14] Voice 4: just to receive

[0:27:15] Voice 4: interesting thank you

[0:27:16] Voice 4: yeah it's good to have insight all righty um we have a confusing thing

[0:27:28] Voice 4: about 15 here we have something left scheduled this is meeting break community update what does

[0:27:33] Voice 4: that normally fall under yeah

[0:27:35] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): right

[0:27:36] Voice 4: yeah

[0:27:37] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): we don't need to have a break yet all

[0:27:39] Voice 4: right i haven't seen

[0:27:41] Voice 4: that on an agenda before so yeah

[0:27:43] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): sometimes we'll need a break at this point okay

[0:27:48] Voice 4: so we have

[0:27:49] Voice 4: applications referrals um we have main island local trust committee referral for draft bylaws number

[0:27:53] Voice 4: 196 and 197 for response um i know with great positivity um that now we have actual suggested

[0:28:03] Voice 4: resolutions within embedded within these staff reports which i think makes things flow a little

[0:28:08] Voice 4: bit smoother so yeah

[0:28:11] Voice 6: you're from maine island so

[0:28:13] Voice 4: i'm from maine island yeah

[0:28:14] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): take it away i'm

[0:28:15] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): curious to hear about this well

[0:28:16] Voice 4: this is basically an update um um to what we call a flex housing um

[0:28:23] Voice 4: The foundation of it is that we, a couple of years ago, we introduced this and we did a small pilot area.

[0:28:34] Voice 4: And so now what we've basically is we've expanded the pilot area.

[0:28:38] Voice 4: There are some additional things.

[0:28:41] Voice 4: We've basically strengthened the requirement for rainwater catchment.

[0:28:47] Voice 4: There's a few like sort of tinkerings that we've done back and forth with a bunch of staff.

[0:28:54] Voice 4: So we've given guidelines for CUPs, for things like recreational vehicles.

[0:29:02] Voice 4: We're struggling on Maine Island, I'm sure all islands, is housing is really, really difficult.

[0:29:11] Voice 4: And Maine was the first island to basically say, do not enforce on recreational vehicles that people are using for housing.

[0:29:21] Voice 4: but there are some people that are living in situations that are just not safe so

[0:29:30] Voice 4: what our goal is at the end is that housing that's in something like a recreational vehicle

[0:29:39] Voice 4: would be done by temporary use permit where the goal is to have very low application fees

[0:29:46] Voice 4: approximately $500 and so at every renewal period that the RV will be

[0:29:54] Voice 4: inspected so we will have health the health officer and the

[0:30:00] Voice 4: department just go in and just have a cursory look and make sure that things seem to be safe

[0:30:08] Voice 4: because there are, I should say, some that just aren't. So we're just taking up a little bit of

[0:30:14] Voice 4: a notch. We're definitely not trying to take people out of their accommodations,

[0:30:19] Voice 4: but we're trying to do a little bit of a lens of making it safe and respectful.

[0:30:25] Voice 4: So that's one of those things. There's a lot of other things if you want to ask any questions,

[0:30:29] Voice 4: But we're trying everything we can do to sort of enable housing on the island.

[0:30:39] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): I met with Trustee Dodds and with Trustee Morrison about two years ago to talk about this project.

[0:30:47] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): It's very positive, very exciting.

[0:30:51] Voice 4: We're doing our best.

[0:30:53] Voice 4: And yes, Pender's falling behind us as is Turner, as is Denman, and perhaps as is Galliano.

[0:31:01] Voice 4: We're just trying to do anything that we can do to sort of make it so people have safe

[0:31:08] Voice 4: and secure housing on the islands.

[0:31:11] Voice 6: I think it'll be interesting to see how this plays out as we go into an OCP review.

[0:31:15] Voice 6: We'll have some good information from Pena on how this is kind of working in your community,

[0:31:22] Voice 6: whether it made any change in the collar or whether it actually affected the housing market.

[0:31:27] Voice 6: and

[0:31:28] Voice 4: that is a really good comment because we were one of the first ones that enabled

[0:31:35] Voice 4: secondary suites five or six years ago we'll hit one vote

[0:31:40] Voice 6: right right and

[0:31:41] Voice 4: that one unfortunately

[0:31:43] Voice 4: became a short-term vacation route um so it was interesting we went through the secondary suites

[0:31:50] Voice 4: process there was a lot of community concern about you know you're opening the floodgates

[0:31:56] Voice 4: you're going to be creating difficult circumstances and such. We've had no uptake.

[0:32:04] Voice 4: And it's been similar with the pilot project that we've done for the flex housing. We've tried to

[0:32:11] Voice 4: sort of enable things for people. We haven't had a lot of uptake. I think there's been three that

[0:32:17] Voice 4: have been done that I know of.

[0:32:19] Voice 6: That's actually not bad. I don't remember when that housing grant

[0:32:24] Voice 6: came from the provincial government that sort of tried to encourage people to put in secondary

[0:32:28] Voice 6: suites and things like that and virtually no uptake in the site of violence, right?

[0:32:34] Voice 6: So I mean, I still think it points to that, you know, it's just the cost of building is

[0:32:40] Voice 6: really the hold back on a lot of these things.

[0:32:43] Voice 6: So how do we help that problem?

[0:32:47] Voice 6: And it's a hard one.

[0:32:49] Voice 6: And it's even harder, like you say, when you do get uptake on it, and then, you know, it's

[0:32:56] Voice 6: used for exactly the opposite purpose that you intended, right?

[0:33:00] Voice 6: So it's going to be interesting to see how this moves forward.

[0:33:04] Voice 6: I don't really have a reason for recommending that you do it, you know, a specific reason,

[0:33:12] Voice 6: but certainly would like to see this move ahead.

[0:33:16] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Yeah, agreed.

[0:33:17] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): I think option two is, I don't have anything specific to say other than this is an example,

[0:33:23] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): it's a positive example of how another island is addressing housing flexibility.

[0:33:28] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): That's really great. But I think as far as motions today here, I think option number one is probably best for us, right?

[0:33:36] Voice 6: Yeah. I mean, it's the first one, so we don't get to see until it plays out a little bit.

[0:33:43] Voice 6: on what you know we're sort of the guidelines yeah

[0:33:46] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): definitely piques our interest yeah

[0:33:48] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): read

[0:33:49] Voice 4: the motion i'll

[0:33:51] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): make the motion i

[0:33:52] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): move that the galliano local trust committee

[0:33:54] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): respond to the main island local trust committee that interests are unaffected by draft bylaws

[0:34:02] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): 196 and 197. any

[0:34:06] Voice 4: further discussion follow-up question all in favor that carries all right

[0:34:10] Voice 4: Right. So we now move on to 16.2 from Phase 38, Covenant Discharge Request 890 Eagles Rest Lane.

[0:34:20] Voice 4: And we have a staff report. It seemed interesting. I mean, any commentary or?

[0:34:29] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): I

[0:34:30] Voice 4: guess staff isn't reporting.

[0:34:31] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Yes, I

[0:34:32] Voice 6: know we don't have

[0:34:32] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): the staff to do this. I did have a question, I think, with the, hang on, let me double check here.

[0:34:43] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): okay so is the properties within the pmfl right well

[0:34:47] Voice 5: we have them i'm right here oh yeah there we

[0:34:50] Voice 5: go

[0:34:50] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): so

[0:34:51] Voice 5: granted i saw both these two properties recently with the goal of doing forest restoration

[0:34:56] Voice 5: and getting some wood over the long term sustainably and of course with the pmfl it's a

[0:35:04] Voice 5: legal requirement that the land within it has to be available for that's part of the

[0:35:09] Voice 5: timber harvesting land base. And this land has been in PMFL for 16 years in complete violation

[0:35:16] Voice 5: of the PMFL because there's a covenant. And the history of this covenant was in those dark days

[0:35:23] Voice 5: when all the Mack Blow stuff was going down on the island, the developer Mark Concilio put this

[0:35:29] Voice 5: as an awkward. While he was developing land, he put a no conifer cutting covenant as opposed to

[0:35:36] Voice 5: no tree cutting covenant and this land is a plantation I believe was planted 1985 or 1986

[0:35:44] Voice 5: though it has very low structural and biological diversity poor wildlife habitat

[0:35:49] Voice 5: and you're forbidden from cutting trees which is arguably the best way to bring back the forest

[0:35:55] Voice 5: under storage and then wildlife habitat and we wish to keep these lands in a private management

[0:36:02] Voice 5: for it as a way of long-term securement of Forkstone now. And so this covenant is essentially

[0:36:11] Voice 5: makes it legally impossible to do the right thing in the land.

[0:36:17] Voice 7: Mr. Mayor?

[0:36:18] Voice 7: Yeah,

[0:36:18] Voice 6: so I have a question because I'm very familiar with the processes here. So technically,

[0:36:26] Voice 6: if you remove the covenant and you want to stay within the PMFL, you would have to apply,

[0:36:32] Voice 6: supply, present a management plan to the PMFL. If you pull, there's a catch 22 in here, you're

[0:36:42] Voice 6: under 60 acres, even combined you're under 60 acres and we're actually

[0:36:48] Voice 5: over it because

[0:36:48] Voice 5: it's PMFL managed forest 160, which has lot 80, which is 120.

[0:36:55] Voice 6: So you're applying to the individuated existing PMFL.

[0:36:58] Voice 6: That's right.

[0:36:58] Voice 6: So that's the question I was getting at. So you need to be able to go into something

[0:37:04] Voice 6: and

[0:37:05] Voice 5: they've already obsessed with us we wrote our management plan the accept our forest inventory is

[0:37:11] Voice 5: accurate and correct and essentially because of this covenant this land would be put back

[0:37:19] Voice 5: into residential status when of course it's actually zoned forestry and so temporarily

[0:37:25] Voice 5: Similarly, the PMFL has taken the four point, four, I guess it's four actors in each blood,

[0:37:32] Voice 5: is not being accepted into PMFL until we have this discussion here.

[0:37:38] Voice 5: So, I mean,

[0:37:39] Voice 6: that's an interesting point here.

[0:37:41] Voice 6: So you realize as we go forward, we'll get other applications that are in the same sort

[0:37:45] Voice 6: of boat, right?

[0:37:46] Voice 7: Yeah.

[0:37:47] Voice 6: And so there is this sort of catch-22, unless you have an existing management force that

[0:37:53] Voice 6: you can join them. If you're under 60 hectares, you can not

[0:37:57] Voice 6: apply to the PMF all to be a managed

[0:37:59] Voice 6: park. You have to be at least 60 acres, right? I mean, 20 square hectares. And so it's interesting,

[0:38:07] Voice 6: I mean, I'm aware that your family has a fairly large managed forest and adding it to that

[0:38:14] Voice 6: makes a lot of sense, right? As a standalone, it doesn't really make a lot of sense,

[0:38:20] Voice 6: Yes, exactly. But as a portion of a large PMFL, it actually does make a lot of sense.

[0:38:26] Voice 6: So that's just sort of the background you get into on the PMFL.

[0:38:31] Voice 6: Thank you.

[0:38:35] Voice 4: Trustee Gafford, do you have anything?

[0:38:38] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): I don't. I had that question.

[0:38:39] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): I know that the staff report says that if the covenants discharge,

[0:38:44] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): that the tree cutting bylaw would prevent or would still be enacted,

[0:38:50] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): active, but the DPA doesn't work in the PMFL.

[0:38:53] Voice 6: Right, right.

[0:38:54] Voice 6: So if there's a covenant, you're strictly forestry on your lot, you couldn't apply to

[0:38:59] Voice 6: one.

[0:38:59] Voice 6: Even if you're above 60 hectares, you wouldn't be able to apply to one.

[0:39:03] Voice 6: The

[0:39:03] Voice 7: DPA, yeah.

[0:39:04] Voice 7: And

[0:39:05] Voice 5: so they've accepted half of each of those lots, which are primarily maple and alder

[0:39:10] Voice 5: forest, but not the Douglas fir forest part, which is the part that has wood that you can

[0:39:18] Voice 5: build housing with to cure a housing problem.

[0:39:21] Voice 5: and just so everyone knows we have a small sawmill of wet kilns and also wood processing

[0:39:27] Voice 5: equipment at our place so we entirely renovated our cabin on the island with wood within 500

[0:39:34] Voice 5: meters of a home so there's local food and there's also a local housing and we believe

[0:39:40] Voice 5: galliano should be self-sufficient with wood as much as possible and we can create jobs and

[0:39:48] Voice 5: I'll underscore one thing

[0:39:50] Voice 6: that Mike said. I have 20 acres right adjacent to Mike's and will be rolled into the same manage forestry group as part of it. But our primary objective here is it's a family passionate project of forestry, forestry management,

[0:40:16] Voice 6: I'm here with my son Henry, who is keenly interested in nature and forestry management.

[0:40:27] Voice 6: We've been pruning and cleaning and planting, and with great respect and consultation by

[0:40:40] Voice 6: away from the conservancy. We're trying to make it something beautiful. So that's my primary

[0:40:47] Voice 6: objective. If that lumber can be used in a private mill, you know, we talked about making the

[0:40:54] Voice 6: Freetown Bunkies and so forth. That's great. We're getting something great and creating a beautiful

[0:41:02] Voice 6: forest. I

[0:41:06] Voice 6: think at some point, you know, you shared a task why the covenant was put there

[0:41:12] Voice 6: there in the first place and wasn't put there for the right reason. And I mean, it was clear

[0:41:16] Voice 6: at the time when Mark Fitzsiglia was trying to develop that subdivision that he was trying

[0:41:21] Voice 6: to just do anything he could to move that subdivision home,

[0:41:24] Voice 8: regardless

[0:41:25] Voice 6: of whether it

[0:41:25] Voice 6: made sense or not. That was until the time that he went belly up, right?

[0:41:29] Voice 7: Yeah.

[0:41:29] Voice 7: And

[0:41:30] Voice 6: so when I looked at the comment, I go, it really, if it wasn't no tree cutting,

[0:41:38] Voice 6: on a, you know, a chunk of the property, you know, okay, well, maybe that makes a little

[0:41:42] Voice 6: bit of sense from a no tree cutting point of view, right? But to have been in managed

[0:41:49] Voice 6: forest all these years and not be able to manage the forest, to me, it doesn't make

[0:41:54] Voice 6: any sense at all. I think the covenant was put there for the wrong reason. And it's the

[0:41:58] Voice 6: wrong type of covenant in the first place, right? So I think there's a lot of barriers

[0:42:02] Voice 6: and removing this especially since they've already accepted in in another uh management plan

[0:42:10] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): yeah yeah i agree i was trying to why is it there why is this covenant made was it to protect a

[0:42:16] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): watershed the maps don't support that either so yeah i'm inclined to agree with the staff's

[0:42:24] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): recommendation on this that is this is an outdated uh covenant that i think uh yeah i think we can

[0:42:31] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): I just

[0:42:33] Voice 6: will say for everybody else listening who owns a small lot of PMFL, make sure you

[0:42:39] Voice 6: have their management plans in place prior to applying for discharge of the column.

[0:42:45] Voice 6: Because that's an important piece.

[0:42:46] Voice 6: Once you've got your management plan, it's not like the PMFL is just the Wild West, it's

[0:42:50] Voice 6: a very restrictive forestry management system.

[0:42:55] Voice 6: and uh and you know what if here's all the provincial guidelines and uh you know i think

[0:43:01] Voice 6: it's it's that's an important piece and they they've got your property already accepted into

[0:43:06] Voice 6: a larger management plan so i think that's what sort of took the scales for me on this one right

[0:43:11] Voice 7: yeah agreed so

[0:43:14] Voice 6: i i'll make the uh the motion i move that the galleon trust committee accepts

[0:43:21] Voice 6: sets a discharge of Section 219, Covenant EJ34637,

[0:43:26] Voice 6: registered on lot one and two of District lot 78,

[0:43:29] Voice 6: plan VIP60997 and designates the chair of the trust committee

[0:43:35] Voice 6: to sign the discharge of the covenant.

[0:43:38] Voice 4: Is that the trustee Gavril?

[0:43:39] Voice 4: I'll second.

[0:43:40] Voice 4: Any further discussion?

[0:43:41] Voice 7: No.

[0:43:41] Voice 4: Call the question on the paper.

[0:43:43] Voice 4: That carries.

[0:43:44] Voice 7: Thank you.

[0:43:45] Voice 7: Thank you.

[0:43:46] Voice 4: Henry has a bright future ahead of him, so.

[0:43:52] Voice 4: All righty. So we move down to page 51, work program reports. We have projects and future

[0:44:00] Voice 4: projects reports. Any questions or comments or concerns? Well, we can put Stefan on the hot seat.

[0:44:10] Voice 4: Right?

[0:44:13] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): No, I have nothing.

[0:44:15] Voice 4: Okay. So page 55, we have applications report, page 54, 55.

[0:44:45] Voice 4: So we have page 56, trustee and local expense report for your information. Page 57 to 61,

[0:44:53] Voice 4: we have, hopefully you're familiar with, adopted policies and standing resolutions. We don't

[0:45:01] Voice 4: have a report from Isles Trust and Service. Did you have anything, Trustee Gavreau, to

[0:45:04] Voice 4: inform?

[0:45:05] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): They're just an inspiring bunch, a small but mighty team.

[0:45:09] Voice 4: As are you. Okay, so we'll move on to page 62. I'll say there's three things, as we'll

[0:45:17] Voice 4: add in that last item, but 19.1, we have on page 62, Galeano Law Committee Meeting Procedures

[0:45:26] Voice 4: bylaw uh repealed bylaw number 298 request for a decision so yes that's basically

[0:45:36] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): a little bit

[0:45:38] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): of housekeeping i think there's nothing really this is the final adoption for uh me procedure

[0:45:43] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): not much we can uh change here this is the final step okay i'd be happy

[0:45:52] Voice 7: to make the motion

[0:45:55] Voice 7: I

[0:45:56] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): don't think yes I'll make the motion okay yeah

[0:45:59] Voice 7: I

[0:46:00] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): move that the galliano local trust committee

[0:46:02] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): uh bylaw number 298 cited as galliano local trust committee meeting procedures repeal bylaw

[0:46:09] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): number uh 289 sorry 298 2025 be adopted

[0:46:21] Voice 4: Okay, I will second the motion. All right, any further discussion?

[0:46:26] Voice 4: Nope.

[0:46:27] Voice 6: Okay.

[0:46:28] Voice 6: Once again, I'll just say I think, you know, trying to make everything the same on every

[0:46:34] Voice 6: island in the trust area is not my preferred way of protecting business. I'll abstain from

[0:46:43] Voice 6: these two.

[0:46:44] Voice 4: Okay.

[0:46:45] Voice 4: Okay, so call the question, all in favor?

[0:46:48] Voice 4: Opposed?

[0:46:49] Voice 4: And Trustee Maverly has abstained from the vote.

[0:46:53] Voice 4: All right, so now we have Galliano-Island Local Trust

[0:46:57] Voice 4: Committee of Public Notification By-law number 299,

[0:47:00] Voice 4: request for decision, consideration for adoption.

[0:47:03] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Ditto, this is the final step in the adoption of this by-law

[0:47:08] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): and I will make the motion.

[0:47:10] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): I move that the Galliano-Island Local Trust Committee

[0:47:12] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Committee, bylaw number 299, cited as Galliano Local Trust Committee Public Notification

[0:47:19] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Bylaw number 299, 2025, be adopted.

[0:47:24] Voice 4: And I will second that motion.

[0:47:27] Voice 4: Thank you.

[0:47:27] Voice 4: Any further discussion?

[0:47:28] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): No.

[0:47:30] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Nope.

[0:47:30] Voice 4: Take all the questions.

[0:47:31] Voice 4: All in favor?

[0:47:33] Voice 4: Opposed?

[0:47:34] Voice 4: None.

[0:47:34] Voice 4: And Trustee Mabry has abstained.

[0:47:36] Voice 4: So that carries.

[0:47:38] Voice 4: areas. And so a third piece of business would be a request to staff to consider your policy

[0:47:52] Voice 4: feedback, community information meeting. I'm assuming a weekend, because evenings are really

[0:48:01] Voice 4: hard.

[0:48:01] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Well, that's the

[0:48:02] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): problem, though. I think that by union rules, staff are, I mean, there's

[0:48:08] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): no perfect time for the meeting. I think having, I mean if you could do it at night but like you do

[0:48:14] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): it on Tuesday but I work Tuesdays you know or you do it on Saturday but a lot of people work Saturday

[0:48:19] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): so what would be the day to work Sunday right?

[0:48:25] Voice 4: It's very it's very difficult

[0:48:27] Voice 4: like I know evenings

[0:48:29] Voice 4: things are particularly difficult um because getting off the island yes so

[0:48:36] Voice 4: so you know it's

[0:48:38] Voice 4: secure there there's expectation of having staff and the chair here um so there's a it's just it's

[0:48:44] Voice 4: the added cost um yes and

[0:48:46] Voice 4: so saturdays is probably the most reasonable if if if the planner and and

[0:48:54] Voice 4: mr yeomans are available um on a saturday but i think if you just structure the motion

[0:48:59] Voice 4: motion just requesting the staff consider so that when we reconvene they can look at all the stuff

[0:49:07] Voice 4: they can consult with you guys maybe land on something that works for everybody and so i know

[0:49:14] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): i i totally agree the accessibility of these meetings is number one my restaurants closed

[0:49:18] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): on tuesdays because of these meetings like i get it i work for a living i know my staff work for a

[0:49:24] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): living it's hard there's no one time that works for everybody it's

[0:49:28] Voice 4: really hard because like north

[0:49:29] Voice 4: north pender we've been doing a series of meetings on saturdays sometimes we've had two people

[0:49:34] Voice 4: attendance yeah and we're versus the thursday meetings we get but we get 20 30 40 50 people out

[0:49:40] Voice 4: um and i know we had a few years ago when i was in the race association on main island

[0:49:46] Voice 4: we used to do all candidates meetings for the various elections we tried evenings afternoons

[0:49:53] Voice 4: every day of the week the biggest attended meetings were friday afternoons which is totally

[0:49:58] Voice 4: totally counterintuitive but we had to have one because that was the only time all the federal

[0:50:04] Voice 4: cabinets were available so friday afternoon we had we were standing room only people out the door

[0:50:11] Voice 4: at that meeting yeah so

[0:50:14] Voice 4: um and like last uh last week uh um i chaired a meeting on gabriola

[0:50:20] Voice 4: we had 120 people out yeah on

[0:50:22] Voice 4: a thursday morning so there it doesn't seem that there's

[0:50:28] Voice 4: a reasonable

[0:50:28] Voice 6: issue. We get decent turnouts for our public hearings, right? And so, you know,

[0:50:37] Voice 6: that's the issue, right? I think that the policy statement is, you know, it's for political

[0:50:45] Voice 6: junkies, right? That's the reality of it. And trying to bring old communities into that

[0:50:54] Voice 6: discussion for something that is not the most interesting topics is difficult and so you know

[0:51:04] Voice 6: I like the idea you know you combine it with a public hearing because then you've got a fair

[0:51:10] Voice 6: you've got a decent crowd that's coming and everybody knows there's the community information

[0:51:15] Voice 6: and there's the public hearings right so you can you know you're gonna go to dinner make a meal

[0:51:20] Voice 6: right um i'm probably aware that's not ideal for some people but um but i think that you know this

[0:51:29] Voice 6: is once again we're we're at the mercy of staff here now yep and until this is settled and we

[0:51:37] Voice 6: see where staff stands because i guarantee you if this goes on for for much longer our whole

[0:51:42] Voice 6: policy statement timeline is shot and and we haven't even managed to have um our indigenous

[0:51:50] Voice 6: And so, you know, I think it isn't like trying to plan something without staff, it's just not going to work.

[0:52:00] Voice 4: That's just, if we simply start to respond to requests.

[0:52:03] Voice 4: But just for information, Saturday is a workable day for your community?

[0:52:08] Voice 2: Saturday is

[0:52:08] Voice 4: a workable day

[0:52:10] Voice 6: for me. I'm serving the retired crowd, whereas I can, you know, self-employed.

[0:52:14] Voice 6: I've worked, you know, and I've built for Lisa.

[0:52:17] Voice 6: I've built more for her staff.

[0:52:19] Voice 6: Lisa signed up to do that.

[0:52:20] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): I don't know about

[0:52:20] Voice 6: working people

[0:52:22] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): that don't work weekends here.

[0:52:24] Voice 6: I

[0:52:24] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): mean, if you're working, you're working the weekend.

[0:52:26] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Yeah.

[0:52:27] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): I don't know.

[0:52:27] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): There's no, it's not a nine to five kind of island, right?

[0:52:30] Voice 4: We did a meeting on Denman on a Saturday and we got in the air because

[0:52:37] Voice 4: Saturday on Denman is market day.

[0:52:40] Voice 4: Right.

[0:52:40] Voice 4: And there were people who were very, very upset.

[0:52:43] Voice 4: that and we kind of doubled down on that because after the market on the weekend that we did it

[0:52:48] Voice 4: was the pride festival right and we got a lot of grief saying how dare you schedule a meeting on

[0:52:55] Voice 4: saturday so every island so but every island is like structurally different i'd love to go to

[0:53:01] Voice 4: saturn for lunch on saturdays yeah

[0:53:03] Voice 6: i mean i the reality is we need to discuss this with staff

[0:53:10] Voice 6: when they get back and we need to sort of come up with something and then some people are going to

[0:53:16] Voice 6: like it and probably more are going to not like it and uh and we just have to do it the reality

[0:53:23] Voice 6: is i think our policy statement timeline is getting booted down the road because if we don't

[0:53:30] Voice 6: have consultation that we're planning for um you know we're we're slipping down the road here

[0:53:38] Voice 6: yeah

[0:53:38] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): i mean i don't want to sound like i'm i'm not into this i don't i get it i've been coming

[0:53:44] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): these ltc meetings for almost a decade and it's always been the problem what's the solution i

[0:53:51] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): don't think going to the staff and saying hey we want to find a better time they've been there

[0:53:55] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): before maybe we need some other ideas from the community what day works best so

[0:54:03] Voice 6: we can put a

[0:54:05] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): email us let us know what day works for you if it's if it's a sunday if there's a working person

[0:54:10] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): out there listening right now let me know what day works

[0:54:15] Voice 6: i'm i'm actually more flexible here i

[0:54:19] Voice 6: know you work for you know you're in here there are days where you need to work for

[0:54:23] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): this job i'm

[0:54:23] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): very flexible yeah

[0:54:24] Voice 6: we'll

[0:54:26] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): figure it out but uh as far as having a like a meeting like today i mean

[0:54:33] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): there's people

[0:54:34] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): are more able to attend this meeting um because of the timing of this meeting

[0:54:40] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): and how many of those and then how many compared to say if the meeting was on a saturday

[0:54:45] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): what is what's the difference there i think it's pretty even yeah

[0:54:49] Voice 7: i would say

[0:54:50] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): just from knowing the

[0:54:51] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): the people the workforce on galliano and the people that work the young people

[0:54:58] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): they're working three jobs

[0:54:59] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): they're trying to get availability

[0:55:01] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): to come to a meeting

[0:55:03] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): I mean if we can bring it to them in some way

[0:55:05] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): figure out a way to bring them

[0:55:07] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): inclusively into that

[0:55:08] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): I don't know we need that

[0:55:11] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): every local government needs that

[0:55:13] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): well

[0:55:14] Voice 6: I mean I think

[0:55:15] Voice 6: what you run into is

[0:55:17] Voice 6: there are parts of this job

[0:55:19] Voice 6: applications that attract

[0:55:21] Voice 6: groups of the public

[0:55:23] Voice 6: because the applications affect them

[0:55:25] Voice 6: right there's there's applications like that and then there's a political junkie side of this job

[0:55:31] Voice 6: which is the policy side of this job and i deal with it in the federal and and getting feedback

[0:55:36] Voice 6: into those those parts of the job is difficult because that's not normally what people people

[0:55:43] Voice 6: respond to things that really affect them right um so so

[0:55:49] Voice 4: how do you want to structure this yeah

[0:55:50] Voice 6: Do you

[0:55:51] Voice 4: want to make a formal request or do you want to just leave it because Director Cermak is listening?

[0:55:58] Voice 4: And so maybe I'll just ask Director Cermak, would you like to see a resolution, a motion out of this?

[0:56:05] Voice 4: Or is what you've heard good enough to sort of give the feedback?

[0:56:10] Voice 1: Thank you, Chair.

[0:56:12] Voice 1: I think I don't need a resolution.

[0:56:16] Voice 1: I don't believe so.

[0:56:16] Voice 1: though, for the reasons that you've talked about. You've now deferred this meeting about

[0:56:21] Voice 1: specific to Galliano, your engagement, therefore forces staff to reconsider.

[0:56:27] Voice 1: I think it's always been up to the Galliano LTC what day you would like to do so. I don't think

[0:56:33] Voice 1: you need staff to make that recommendation for you. Staff will be here to support you. If we

[0:56:37] Voice 1: have staff, we will attend that meeting. If it's Saturday, Sunday, Thursday, whatever,

[0:56:42] Voice 1: whatever you make the call and and we'll be there if we don't have the resources we'll let you know

[0:56:48] Voice 1: and as you know at the moment we we don't but if once we're fully staffed again so

[0:56:52] Voice 1: I think we're going to have to recalibrate anyways for the policy statement for the numerous

[0:56:57] Voice 1: meetings that have been cancelled and so when it's time for Galeano to reconsider what's the

[0:57:02] Voice 1: next best date perhaps you'll have better guidance after speaking to your other community members

[0:57:08] Voice 1: what works for them you go find those uh policy people um who are interested and i think the trick

[0:57:16] Voice 6: if

[0:57:16] Voice 1: i just made uh you know just from my observation you know with many ltcs over many

[0:57:21] Voice 1: terms um and this question is perennial it's perennial through all you know planning agencies

[0:57:27] Voice 1: out there and i think you hit the nail on the head trustee maberly that it's it's when it's of

[0:57:32] Voice 1: interest to the community members when they understand that it affects them in their future

[0:57:36] Voice 1: whether it's a you know a specific application or specific bylaw nothing riles the population

[0:57:43] Voice 1: more than a drafted bylaw that they don't like and so with the policy statement if the community

[0:57:50] Voice 1: doesn't feel it's important to them they won't show up but if they do feel it's important they

[0:57:54] Voice 1: will and so if that's if you believe the policy statement amendment project is important i would

[0:58:00] Voice 1: suggest that you spread that word to your your constituents and get their feedback on when's a

[0:58:05] Voice 1: a good day for them to offer their opinions but

[0:58:09] Voice 4: i think the other component of the feedback was

[0:58:11] Voice 4: maybe it'd be a standalone meeting yeah

[0:58:14] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): i think that's the goal here so

[0:58:16] Voice 4: but i think the message

[0:58:18] Voice 4: is we'll wait to staff reach means they'll reach out to the local trust committee and amongst

[0:58:25] Voice 4: yourselves hopefully you can come up with a date that works and we'll move forward yeah okay

[0:58:35] Voice 6: We may be able to blend in some

[0:58:37] Voice 6: indigenous meetings on that same day.

[0:58:39] Voice 6: So that might work out.

[0:58:41] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Yeah, might work out.

[0:58:42] Voice 1: I like that.

[0:58:44] Voice 6: And

[0:58:44] Voice 1: if I can, through the chair?

[0:58:45] Voice 1: Yes.

[0:58:46] Voice 1: The magic bullet is food.

[0:58:48] Voice 2: Feed

[0:58:49] Voice 1: the community, they will come.

[0:58:51] Voice 7: For me?

[0:58:52] Voice 1: Refuse that.

[0:58:54] Voice 7: Fuck.

[0:58:56] Voice 4: Yeah, and the thing is, too,

[0:58:58] Voice 4: is as you're going through the decision

[0:59:00] Voice 4: decision-making process. If Chair Peterson's not available, I potentially could sub in for him

[0:59:08] Voice 4: if there's a day that does not work for him. So when you guys collectively are having your

[0:59:13] Voice 4: discussion, put that in mind too, because I'm literally a scoff if they come away.

[0:59:19] Voice 6: You're literally for maybe 10 minutes away if I vote. So if that's something like that,

[0:59:24] Voice 6: I can get you over here to do the meetings and I get you home again, right?

[0:59:28] Voice 6: It

[0:59:28] Voice 4: reminds me of Sarah Palin saying that she can see Russia from her living room window

[0:59:33] Voice 4: and I can kind of see Galileo from mine.

[0:59:37] Voice 4: So it's

[0:59:38] Voice 6: not that far.

[0:59:44] Voice 4: All right.

[0:59:46] Voice 4: With that, upcoming meetings.

[0:59:50] Voice 4: The next regular meeting is scheduled as being electronic for October 31st.

[0:59:55] Voice 4: So

[0:59:55] Voice 6: I have a serious question.

[0:59:57] Voice 6: Stephanie, without a doubt, I mean, I just don't.

[1:00:00] Voice 6: see what the point of that meeting would be through

[1:00:04] Voice 1: the chair yeah uh

[1:00:06] Voice 1: understood trustee

[1:00:08] Voice 1: we are sort of taking one week at a time of looking forward this week we're dealing with

[1:00:13] Voice 1: looking forward at north pendant saturn meetings um next next week we will do the same for this

[1:00:18] Voice 1: so um if this committee would like to talk about it now and decide to uh defer or cancel that

[1:00:25] Voice 1: meeting that uh that will save us a future conversation next week but i agree at this

[1:00:29] Voice 1: moment uh no staff no produced work the only thing you would be doing is approving minutes

[1:00:34] Voice 1: i suspect and even then i'm not convinced that i'll be ready to have your minutes in great order

[1:00:40] Voice 6: well not only that we have a meeting two weeks after that so yeah i think there's a merit now

[1:00:45] Voice 6: just making a motion to cancel make an emotion to

[1:00:48] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): cancel it yeah

[1:00:48] Voice 6: um seems unlikely we're going

[1:00:51] Voice 6: to have anything i

[1:00:53] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): don't think anything's going to change in the next two weeks okay

[1:00:56] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): meetings so I think we should cancel it all

[1:01:00] Voice 4: right so somebody wants to make a motion

[1:01:02] Voice 4: uh

[1:01:03] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): yep jesus

[1:01:06] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): we're not rushing

[1:01:07] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): it no it feels like are we certain yeah um all right I move

[1:01:14] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): that the galleon local trust committee uh cancel um the next regular electronic meeting

[1:01:22] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Scheduled for October 31st, 2025.

[1:01:26] Voice 6: Second?

[1:01:27] Voice 6: Yeah, I'll second that.

[1:01:28] Voice 6: Any further discussion?

[1:01:29] Voice 6: You put that it was for 10 a.m.?

[1:01:31] Voice 6: That

[1:01:31] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): one was at regular time.

[1:01:35] Voice 6: Any further discussion?

[1:01:37] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): No.

[1:01:38] Voice 6: I don't think so.

[1:01:39] Voice 6: I mean, I think that it's pretty obvious.

[1:01:41] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): We should cancel it.

[1:01:42] Voice 6: Yeah.

[1:01:42] Voice 6: Okay.

[1:01:43] Voice 6: All in favor?

[1:01:44] Voice 6: That carries.

[1:01:45] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Hang on, one last thing for discussion.

[1:01:46] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): So then when is our next meeting?

[1:01:48] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): Is that the December 9th meeting?

[1:01:50] Voice 6: well we'll we'll that's the one we discussed now right right

[1:01:55] Voice 8: wasn't it november

[1:01:57] Voice 6: 31st

[1:01:58] Voice 4: is the next

[1:02:00] Voice 8: december now

[1:02:01] Voice 4: right but perhaps when staff gets back they might reschedule

[1:02:09] Voice 4: yeah all right

[1:02:15] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): no discussion oh

[1:02:16] Voice 4: and i see director mac has his hand up so we're being taken to task

[1:02:24] Voice 1: through the chair um i did not hear uh the the emotion carried it

[1:02:29] Voice 4: was carried yes was it my

[1:02:31] Voice 1: apologies i was listening thank you

[1:02:34] Voice 4: all righty um that's that's that so we now go to a town hall

[1:02:43] Voice 4: if anybody else says anything to address the local trust committee

[1:02:47] Voice 4: I

[1:02:48] Voice 11: know it's very difficult to engage people in this, but you know, as trustees, that the

[1:03:04] Voice 11: trust policy statement is very important for the people here, even if they don't know it.

[1:03:11] Voice 11: because it will regulate the life here. It will influence the whole city. It's really important.

[1:03:21] Voice 11: I think as trustees you should do all you can speaking with people and showing in what way

[1:03:33] Voice 11: the track policy statement will impact their work on again.

[1:03:41] Voice 11: Because they have all these kind of regulations

[1:03:44] Voice 11: for all the items that really impact the person's work,

[1:03:50] Voice 11: the person's housing, the co-sif then

[1:03:53] Voice 11: how you have to look at these things.

[1:03:56] Voice 11: So I understand very well that it's a very difficult thing

[1:04:00] Voice 11: to engage because it's more theoretical.

[1:04:03] Voice 11: It's not something that you write there when you say applications, but in reality, it's extremely important for everybody.

[1:04:14] Voice 11: And I think one of the work of the Justice is to engage as much as possible, just as people who live on the island, to let them know the importance of their life.

[1:04:29] Voice 11: of people. Because it's true, it's a very difficult thing to engage with.

[1:04:35] Voice 4: One thing that's valuable to remember too is that it is of course online, and there is an online

[1:04:41] Voice 4: survey, but also for those who are not engaged online, your library should have hard copies of

[1:04:48] Voice 4: the survey with a self-addressed envelope. Now that we have the post office back, you actually

[1:04:54] Voice 4: can mail your comments back um so that so they're they're we're getting a little bit

[1:04:59] Voice 4: more opportunities there but it doesn't replace in-person meetings for sure but

[1:05:05] Voice 11: because we are a member of the community you know many people that talk to you

[1:05:14] Voice 11: and i think it's important so

[1:05:18] Voice 5: um michael paper here again so last number of years every summer

[1:05:24] Voice 5: where we have more cyclists on the road on Galliano and I know that trust is not directly

[1:05:29] Voice 5: responsible for our roads however we need a local voice and this year I witnessed one near hit and I

[1:05:37] Voice 5: just had a child whose mother was teaching a kid how to ride their bike on the middle of the road

[1:05:43] Voice 5: and their kid veered out never having ridden a bike before we have a serious situation evolving

[1:05:48] Voice 5: involving here in Galliano with the increase of cyclists and I think in a way when you can all

[1:05:55] Voice 5: work together to create a bicycle path going up Galliano so we have safety and also we have more

[1:06:01] Voice 5: efficient roads we know everyone should drive safely but we also know people get in a hurry

[1:06:05] Voice 5: they're trying to get a ferry or something's happening in their life and it's truly life

[1:06:10] Voice 5: threatening the way the roads are now I

[1:06:13] Voice 6: think that discussion's being had with CRE I mean if you look

[1:06:17] Voice 6: at the the um the path from village bay now to the city center on main island um you know that

[1:06:28] Voice 6: was the project unfortunately the cost of doing those products is extremely high that one almost

[1:06:35] Voice 6: three times the forecasted budget right um i've met with stephen henderson over here so even just

[1:06:42] Voice 6: on the footpath issue trying to figure out how to get ferry traffic sort of dispersed through

[1:06:47] Voice 6: really without everybody just walking on the road. We've looked at different aspects of how

[1:06:54] Voice 6: that would work, how the trails would work, you know, what you build on the sides of the roads.

[1:07:01] Voice 6: But then you have highways involved in that as well. And as you know, we talked at the very

[1:07:07] Voice 6: beginning about the parking and money. It took years to put that together. And then eventually,

[1:07:13] Voice 6: you know thank you to paul brent and crd staff for really sort of understanding that that was

[1:07:20] Voice 6: that was you know an issue that needed to be dealt with um i think you know one of the problems that

[1:07:27] Voice 6: gallant has is you know it's it's just long and narrow so you've got a long ways to build a plate

[1:07:34] Voice 6: path to get to the top of the island uh may not be a lot easier you can get a circle you can sort

[1:07:40] Voice 6: of disperse people a lot a lot easier very true right but um yeah i'm not sure quite what the

[1:07:48] Voice 6: solution is but you're absolutely right i mean the increase in bike traffic on galena compared

[1:07:53] Voice 6: to any other time right and uh i think you might want to talk to your brother about that

[1:08:01] Voice 5: benefiting the islanders in the sense that bike riders go up to dionysio and account they don't

[1:08:08] Voice 5: spend money locally so it's not like galliano receives much of a net benefit for tourism

[1:08:14] Voice 5: yeah but i think we do i think we do i mean i think even when you see

[1:08:18] Voice 6: people do day trips

[1:08:20] Voice 6: just walking yeah um you know people stop at the cafes or they stop at the coffee shops and things

[1:08:26] Voice 6: like that so i think there isn't that benefit um whether they're here to camp at the initial or

[1:08:32] Voice 6: camp at montague or whatever they're going to do i think the the sort of the you know discussion

[1:08:38] Voice 6: i've had with crd is can you get people up to the to here right and then you know they're sort of

[1:08:45] Voice 6: dispersing from there but um the reality of building the bike lanes all the way up the island

[1:08:51] Voice 6: is it's extremely well it's big and the reason

[1:08:54] Voice 5: that i say it doesn't necessarily benefit the

[1:08:56] Voice 5: island much is that it would be unfair for the island there you have to pay for all those roads

[1:09:01] Voice 5: but mostly people from elsewhere who use these roads and so maybe a short-term solution in my

[1:09:09] Voice 5: mind would be we've got all those blind hills where the cyclists are going really slowly

[1:09:15] Voice 5: those are the key most dangerous points it'd be very simple to widen the road in just those

[1:09:21] Voice 5: key most dangerous areas and not very costly right so you think that would be simple

[1:09:27] Voice 6: i mean one of the most one of the toughest corners on this island is right just before

[1:09:33] Voice 6: you get into waiter bay take that little sharp on the rock and for years how many people ended

[1:09:38] Voice 6: up in the bay right and then eventually they flattened the hill you remember they used to be

[1:09:43] Voice 6: quite a bumpy little hill there and now you know just trying to get them to chip that rock away

[1:09:49] Voice 6: and get you know just if somebody's walking up there and you come around that corner

[1:09:53] Voice 6: you're you're instinctively into the center of the road right

[1:09:57] Voice 7: and

[1:09:58] Voice 6: so it's it's way more difficult

[1:10:01] Voice 6: than you think i wish highways was sitting here but it's way more difficult to get them to do

[1:10:07] Voice 6: these sort of things than you think oh i'm fully aware i do this kind of work professionally

[1:10:12] Voice 4: my only cautionary tale from main island is you know crd built a wonderful trail on main island

[1:10:19] Voice 4: that was way above and beyond of what they should have built,

[1:10:24] Voice 4: but they did it.

[1:10:26] Voice 4: Less than half the cyclists used it.

[1:10:28] Voice 4: A couple of weeks ago, we had two people hit and seriously injured.

[1:10:33] Voice 4: The cyclist's preferred route is down the road,

[1:10:37] Voice 4: not four feet over on the trail.

[1:10:41] Voice 4: So it's a path to success, but it's the old,

[1:10:45] Voice 4: you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink it.

[1:10:50] Voice 6: or is this a cyclist yeah

[1:10:51] Voice 6: as a cyclist

[1:10:57] Voice 4: i

[1:10:57] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): just wanted to say that i get car stops on me yes

[1:11:01] Voice 4: totally not used

[1:11:02] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): not used day but you have

[1:11:04] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): little pullouts for cars to go which would widen the road which might be a good option for galliano

[1:11:10] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): to do as these infrastructure costs are huge to widen the roads but like you're saying

[1:11:14] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): if it was certain areas that needed to have be a little bit wider or to have some type of signage

[1:11:21] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): maybe a bench that says car stop there as well it might make drivers well cautious of that area but

[1:11:28] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): also might give the relief on the road spacing challenges and be working in partnership with

[1:11:34] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): other initiatives might be the best way to get to get it get it all happening so

[1:11:40] Voice 4: car shops are

[1:11:41] Voice 4: another good example you know we adopt them after after pender put them in very very heavily used on

[1:11:48] Voice 4: pender

[1:11:48] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): yes it's

[1:11:50] Voice 4: been 20 years no uptake on main island it's literally a personal set of the car

[1:11:56] Voice 4: car stop outside the ferry terminal they can be there for four or five hours

[1:12:01] Voice 4: less

[1:12:02] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): than five minutes people

[1:12:03] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): actually drive by you stop drive back pick you up take you where

[1:12:08] Trustee Gauvreau (probable): you're going and we'll pick you up later that's what different

[1:12:11] Voice 4: cultures um i think

[1:12:13] Voice 10: car stops would

[1:12:14] Voice 10: work here yeah yeah two things and and i realize it involves dealing with other bureaucracies but

[1:12:22] Voice 10: two things that i think would really help and i i can't remember who's pender maine that has

[1:12:27] Voice 10: a sign down near the ferry specifically for cyclists asking them to ride in a single file

[1:12:32] Voice 10: i mean that really is good etiquette as a cyclist anyway but i have had to kind of yell at people

[1:12:40] Voice 10: from time to time who are just taking up the whole road and and the other thing i think is i

[1:12:48] Voice 10: know this has been addressed but i do not understand why bc pairs cannot hold the cyclist

[1:12:55] Voice 10: back till all the cars i do that seems to me the simplest thing and it would reduce

[1:13:01] Voice 10: you know it's frustration in drivers that cause bad accidents and i think that would alleviate

[1:13:07] Voice 10: a lot of stress especially when you know

[1:13:10] Voice 10: it's a full ferry coming in in the summer and

[1:13:13] Voice 10: immediately people are just you know in gridlock waiting for these big groups of cyclists they are

[1:13:19] Voice 4: fortunately doing that appropriately but no with all the islands because the main impender in

[1:13:26] Voice 4: in particular Steve Hill's coming out of the terminals and we've been asking for years and

[1:13:32] Voice 4: years and years and years and years and BC Ferries have always said no we want consistency

[1:13:36] Voice 4: through all the terminals and then suddenly about six months ago they started at Fulcrum

[1:13:42] Voice 4: when you come into Fulcrum now all

[1:13:43] Voice 10: the cyclists back and all the terminals it's not a big deal

[1:13:46] Voice 10: you know it's just safer I feel safer as a cyclist getting off the ferry last you know

[1:13:52] Voice 10: when all the cars have gone and anyways i think that would help remember that

[1:13:56] Voice 10: i totally agree i

[1:13:57] Voice 10: was

[1:13:58] Voice 3: going to make that point i also think the idea

[1:14:00] Voice 3: of making the pull-ups on the side is incredibly

[1:14:03] Voice 3: good would be way less expensive than a whole trail i think signage is another thing that

[1:14:08] Voice 3: needs to be considered and i'd like to suggest that a committee be formed to deal with exactly

[1:14:13] Voice 3: this issue and this you do only because i think that's the only way to move forward and have some

[1:14:18] Voice 3: progress is to have that continuity of a committee reporting to people getting their feedback and so

[1:14:25] Voice 3: that is my suggestion i really do think that we need the pc paris needs to address

[1:14:32] Voice 3: very importantly this is really about health and safety right it's such a bottom line requirement

[1:14:40] Voice 3: and i think that the pc paris needs to be more aware of that and and address that of

[1:14:45] Voice 3: of leaving people, bicyclists, on the boat until the landing.

[1:14:49] Voice 3: That's the most dangerous time.

[1:14:51] Voice 3: Everyone's been sitting on the boat.

[1:14:53] Voice 3: They want to get off and get driving to their place.

[1:14:56] Voice 3: And it is so incredibly dangerous with the blind corners and the blind hills

[1:15:02] Voice 3: that it really does the tension of the people wanting to move.

[1:15:06] Voice 3: It's not like they want to go fast.

[1:15:08] Voice 3: They just want to move, right?

[1:15:09] Voice 3: So I think this is such an important point for us, for this island,

[1:15:13] Voice 3: and we need to take the responsibility of creating a committee to forward this

[1:15:19] Voice 3: in a more timely fashion, right?

[1:15:21] Voice 4: Well, perhaps, Director Brent, if you take your next meeting,

[1:15:26] Voice 4: that could be sort of something under the CRD.

[1:15:28] Voice 4: I know the Pender project was through a CRD committee.

[1:15:32] Voice 6: Yeah, it's where your grant money came from, your grants.

[1:15:36] Voice 10: And, you know, cycling is getting ever more popular, you know,

[1:15:41] Voice 10: with the cost of the ferries and people wanting to be out in the fresh air and exercise so it's

[1:15:46] Voice 10: only going to get worse yeah

[1:15:48] Voice 6: i mean i guess i i'm i'm trying to think back to when the first

[1:15:54] Voice 6: e-bike hit the island and i remember driving up a hill why am i not passing

[1:15:59] Voice 6: and you're you end up racing with bikes up hills and you know then you watch a crowd of

[1:16:08] Voice 6: bikers and they've all got their earbuds in and they're all listening they have they're oblivious

[1:16:12] Voice 6: here that fact they are even there and uh so it's something that for sure we'll bring up with paul

[1:16:18] Voice 6: brennan and i'll bring up with stephen henderson as a general manager of the southern gulf islands

[1:16:23] Voice 6: i

[1:16:24] Voice 3: also think that there are now groups that bring vans that bring all the bicycles

[1:16:29] Voice 3: i think there needs to be an emphasis to them on some training information of how to operate

[1:16:36] Voice 3: on the roads because I noticed that in particular the bicyclists with the groups are not as

[1:16:42] Voice 3: informed about bicycle etiquette and safety and that somehow that can be incorporated

[1:16:47] Voice 3: that these people who blame bicyclists are more able to inform their riders what the

[1:16:55] Voice 3: situation is and the safest way to do things right I don't know how that can be incorporated

[1:17:03] Voice 4: But certainly, of course, if that means the RCMP component, because that's his law. So, you know, it's maybe some enforcement, because single file is the law, so.

[1:17:13] Voice 10: We don't have RCMP law.

[1:17:15] Voice 10: None

[1:17:16] Voice 4: of us do.

[1:17:19] Voice 6: There's a lot of things to put together there. Agencies that really want absolutely nothing to

[1:17:24] Voice 5: do with that conversation.

[1:17:26] Voice 5: I do think, though, this is something that could garner a consensus.

[1:17:30] Voice 10: Absolutely. It would make a difference to the island, I think.

[1:17:36] Voice 11: When the summer comes, and you see these vesicles coming out of the ground.

[1:17:41] Voice 11: Sometimes I travel with my little children, and we go like this, you know, going up the hill.

[1:17:47] Voice 11: They have no

[1:17:48] Voice 11: idea. It's so absurd that they come before the gods.

[1:17:53] Voice 10: Yeah, and I think we're all afraid we've got to get this done to the extent that we can.

[1:17:59] Voice 4: Anybody else have anything?

[1:18:03] Voice 4: Well, with that, I think we can call it a day.

[1:18:07] Voice 4: Yep.

[1:18:08] Voice 7: All right. Thank you

[1:18:09] Voice 4: very much, everybody.

[1:18:11] Voice 2: Take care.

[1:18:14] Voice 4: You too.

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Galiano Island Local Trust Committee 
Minutes of Regular Meeting 
 
Date:  
Location:  
October 14, 2025 
Galiano South Community Hall 
141 Sturdies Bay Road, Galiano Island, BC 
 
Members Present: David Maude, Chair 
 Ben Mabberley, Local Trustee 
 Lisa Gauvreau, Local Trustee 
  
Staff Present: Stefan Cermak, Director Planning Services (electronic) 
  
Others Present: There were 7 members of the public present. 
 
1. CALL TO ORDER 
Chair Maude called the meeting to order at 1:05 p.m. and noted that Chair Peterson sent 
regrets as he was unable to attend the meeting due to a Lasqueti ferry cancellation. 
2. TERRITORIAL ACKNOWLEDGEMENT 
Chair Maude acknowledged that the meeting was being held in the territory of the Coast 
Salish First Nations and Trustee Maberly acknowledged that the meeting was being held in 
the territory of the Penelakut Tribe and Coast Salish peoples. 
3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 
By general consent the agenda was approved as presented. 
4. TRUSTEE REPORT 
Trustee Gauvreau reported the following: 
• Reporting as Chair of the Accessibility Committee she noted the committee is in the 
process of developing an Accessibility Plan and seeking Board members 
• Attended the Xew’etay/Lasqueti Archeology Project webinar titled Protecting and 
Honouring Indigenous Heritage through Archaeology, Policy and Planning 
• Attended Island Trust Conservancy meeting 
• The Local Trust Committee held a special meeting to discuss the Associated Islands 
Regulation Review Project 
• Noted the recent celebration of life held for respected resident Ian Maday 
Trustee Mabberley reported the following: 
• Attended ceremonies for Orange Shirt Day 
• Recognized local resident and farmer Lief Palmberg who won BCs Giant Pumpkin 
competition 
  
ADOPTED 

 
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5. CHAIR'S REPORT 
Chair Maude reported that due to the British Columbia General Employees’ Union (BCGEU) 
strike action some Local Trust Committee meetings would be cancelled and Community 
Information Meetings regarding the draft Trust Policy Statement would be postponed.  
6. ELECTORAL AREA DIRECTOR'S REPORT - None 
7. FIRST NATION REPORT - None 
8. TOWN HALL AND QUESTIONS 
A member of the public stated appreciation for starting the Associated Island Regulation 
Review project and improving the parking at Montague Harbour. 
 
A member of the public requested the Community Information Meeting on the draft Trust 
Policy Statement to be held outside of regular business hours. 
 
By general consent discussion on rescheduling of the Community Information 
Meeting will be added as New Business Item 19.3 – Policy Statement Engagement 
Options. 
 
A member of the public requested the Local Trust Committee report on a local housing 
project and that the minutes of the last Local Trust Committee meeting be amended to 
reflect that during the second Town Hall the comment about adding exemptions to other 
Development Permit Areas be attributed to the Trustee that made the comment and not the 
member of the public. 
9. COMMUNITY INFORMATION MEETING - None 
10. PUBLIC HEARING - None 
11. MINUTES 
11.1 Local Trust Committee Minutes Dated September 9, 2025 (for Adoption) 
The following amendments to the minutes were presented for consideration: 
On page 3 of the Minutes, last bullet point in the Town Hall section change “BC Build 
grant” to “BC Housing’s Community Housing Fund” and “funding available for the 
first phase which includes half of the buildings” to “funding is available for 
infrastructure.” 
 
By general consent the Galiano Island Local Trust Committee meeting 
minutes of September 9, 2025 were adopted as amended. 
11.2 Local Trust Committee Special Meeting Minutes of September 19, 2025 (for 
Adoption) 
By general consent the Galiano Island Local Trust Committee special 
meeting minutes of September 19, 2025 were adopted as presented. 
11.3 Section 26 Resolutions Without Meeting Report - None 

 
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11.4 Advisory Planning Commission Minutes Dated August 29, 2025, September 9, 
2025, and September 23, 2025 (for Receipt) 
Received for information. 
12. BUSINESS ARISING FROM MINUTES 
12.1 Follow-up Action List Dated Oct 2025 
Received for information. 
13. DELEGATIONS - None 
14. CORRESPONDENCE 
Correspondence received concerning current applications or projects is posted to the LTC 
webpage 
14.1 Stephen Rybak re Local Trust Committee's Standing Resolution 2009-085 
Received for information. 
GL-2025-080 
It was MOVED and SECONDED 
that Galiano Island Local Trust Committee request staff to contact the 
Galiano Island Parks and Recreation Commission for feedback on standing 
resolution on 2009-085. 
CARRIED 
14.2 Managed Forest Council re Removal of Land from the Managed Forest Program 
Received for information. 
15. MEETING BREAK - COMMUNITY UPDATE – None 
16. APPLICATIONS AND REFERRALS 
16.1 Mayne Island Local Trust Committee Referral for Draft Bylaws 196 and 197 (for 
Response) 
GL-2025-081 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that Galiano Island Local Trust Committee respond to the Mayne Island 
Local Trust Committee that interests are unaffected by draft Bylaws No. 196 
and 197. 
CARRIED 
16.2 Covenant Discharge Request – 890 Eagles Rest Lane – Staff Memo 
It was noted the Planner was not available to summarize the memorandum; 
however, it was included in the agenda package for review and consideration. 
  

 
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Discussion ensued and the following comments were noted: 
• The properties are located within the Private Managed Forest Land (PMFL) 
Program 
• A requirement of land within the PMFL is that it be available as part of the timber 
harvesting land base 
• There is a covenant on the property which violates the requirements of the PMFL 
• The land has low structural and biological diversity and is poor wildlife habitat 
and the ideal way to bring back the forest understory to enhance the habitat is to 
cut trees, which is forbidden by the covenant 
• The owner has a wood mill, kiln, and other processing equipment but is unable 
to manage the forest on the property due to the no-tree cutting requirement 
• The property has already been accepted into a larger management plan 
  
GL-2025-082 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that Galiano Island Local Trust Committee accept the discharge of Section 
219 covenant EJ34637 registered on Lot 1 and Lot 2 of District Lot 78 Plan 
VIP60997 and designate the Chair of the Local Trust Committee to sign the 
discharge of the covenant. 
CARRIED 
17. LOCAL TRUST COMMITTEE PROJECTS - None 
18. REPORTS 
18.1 Work Program Reports 
18.1.1 Active Projects Report Dated Oct 2025 
Received for information. 
18.1.2 Future Projects Report Dated Oct 2025 
Received for information. 
18.2 Applications Report Dated Oct 2025 
Received for information. 
18.3 Trustee and Local Expense Report Dated August 2025 
Received for information. 
18.4 Adopted Policies and Standing Resolutions 
Received for information. 
18.5 Local Trust Committee Webpage - None 
18.6 Islands Trust Conservancy Report – None 
  

 
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19. NEW BUSINESS 
19.1 Galiano Island LTC Meeting Procedures Repeal Bylaw No. 298 - Request for 
Decision - Consideration for Adoption 
Executive Committee passed a resolution approving the Galiano Island Local Trust 
Committee Bylaw No. 298 and this allows the Local Trust Committee to rescind the 
previous Meeting Procedures Bylaw and proceed to adoption of the bylaw. 
GL-2025-083 
It was MOVED and SECONDED 
that the Galiano Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 298, cited as 
“Galiano Island Local Trust Committee Meeting Procedures Repeal Bylaw 
No. 298, 2025”, be adopted. 
CARRIED 
19.2 Galiano Island LTC Public Notification Bylaw No. 299 - Request for Decision - 
Consideration for Adoption 
Executive Committee passed a resolution approving the Galiano Island Local Trust 
Committee Bylaw No. 299 and this allows adoption of the Public Notification Bylaw 
that was given first, second, and third readings at the September 9, 2025 Local Trust 
Committee meeting. 
GL-2025-084 
It was MOVED and SECONDED 
that the Galiano Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 299, cited as 
“Galiano Island Local Trust Committee Public Notification Bylaw No. 299, 
2025", be adopted. 
CARRIED 
19.3 Policy Statement Engagement Options 
Discussion ensued regarding the scheduling of the Community Information Meeting 
and the following comments were noted: 
• Evenings are challenging to schedule staff and Chair attendance due to staff 
overtime issues and ferry travel requiring an overnight stay 
• Accessibility to attend meetings is a priority 
• Evenings, afternoons, and weekends have been tried with varying success; 
however, these times often see few attendees depending on the topic 
• The Director of Planning Services indicated that the Local Trust Committee can 
recommend the meeting time and day of week they would like and staff will 
support the decision 
  

 
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20. UPCOMING MEETINGS 
20.1 Next Regular Electronic Meeting Scheduled for October 31, 2025 
GL-2025-085 
It was MOVED and SECONDED 
that Galiano Island Local Trust Committee cancel the next regular electronic 
meeting schedule for October 31, 2025. 
CARRIED 
21. TOWN HALL  
A member of the public spoke to the importance of engagement with the public about the 
draft Trust Policy Statement. 
A member of the public noted that the increased number of bicyclists has become a safety 
concern that needs to be addressed. 
22. CLOSED MEETING - None 
23. ADJOURNMENT 
By general consent the meeting was adjourned at 2:25 pm. 
 
 
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David Maude, Chair 
 
Certified Correct: 
 
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Lisa Millard Meeting Administrator/Recorder