Islands Trust Council community information meeting, February 23, 2026
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[0:00:03] All
[0:00:07] Voice 8: right. Good afternoon, everybody. Thank you for joining us here today for the regularly scheduled business meeting of the Maine Island Local Trust Committee. It is February 23rd, 2026, a beautiful sunny day where I am in Stanimoc territory on Gabriela Island.
[0:00:27] Voice 8: And we want to begin by acknowledging that we are grateful, as always, to be living, working, playing, and making decisions on the unceded lands of the Coast Salish peoples, the Tsimshatlan-speaking peoples in the main local trust area, who've been stewarding these lands since time immemorial.
[0:00:50] Voice 8: I am Toby Elliott, your chair elected on Gabriola Island and a member of this local trust committee.
[0:00:57] Voice 8: I'm joined by your two local trustees, Trustee Janine Dodds and Trustee David Mott.
[0:01:04] Voice 8: Hi, everybody. And we're joined by staff members.
[0:01:08] Voice 8: Planner Bruce Belcher is our island planner today.
[0:01:12] Voice 8: He'll be taking the lead and answering any questions that we have on applications and supporting in the background.
[0:01:20] Voice 8: We've got our planner, Nerissa Chadwick, who is trying to let go of island planning on Maine, has served us in great capacity.
[0:01:31] Voice 8: In the background, we have Emily supporting and Carly Bilney as our recorder.
[0:01:38] Voice 8: So thanks, everybody, for joining us.
[0:01:42] Voice 8: Just want to let everyone know that this electronic meeting is being live streamed and recorded.
[0:01:48] Voice 8: We will post it in a few days time. And this is a meeting place and a workplace for our staff. So we are endeavoring to speak respectfully. Well, we must speak respectfully to one another.
[0:02:04] Voice 8: other um we are endeavoring to uphold cultural safety in all of our meetings this is um sort of
[0:02:12] Voice 8: a new norm or practice that we are bringing forward in all of our community meetings just
[0:02:18] Voice 8: to ensure that um these are safe places for indigenous peoples and um as always i know on
[0:02:26] Voice 8: maine we are very constructive and productive uh ltc but we will just be mindful to keep our
[0:02:32] Voice 8: conversations constructive and focused on issues uh that the local trust committee can address
[0:02:40] Voice 8: so with that i will turn to our agenda and ask if there's any additions or amendments
[0:02:49] Voice 8: to the agenda as presented no no no none ticket by general consent that the agenda
[0:02:56] Voice 8: be adopted as presented and i just want to recognize that there are two participants in
[0:03:05] Voice 8: this in the attendees area and just know that we will come to you at the time of your application
[0:03:12] Voice 8: i think both of you are here related to some applications and you'll be able to speak to
[0:03:18] Voice 8: your applications then so now we're going into public comment we want to hear from members of
[0:03:25] Voice 8: the public um and so anyone wishing to address the local trust committee about anything on our
[0:03:32] Voice 8: agenda today or any of the business of the local trust committee on main island if you could please
[0:03:38] Voice 8: raise your hand and we'll promote you to speaker um i do see a raised hand there but i'm thinking
[0:03:46] Voice 8: it's related to the application so i think we can wait if that's all right dm okay quiet
[0:03:57] Voice 8: quiet i'm hearing nope do you see we've given uh miss ludbard chance
[0:04:14] Voice 8: lubardius forgive me chance to speak um is it something other than your application
[0:04:21] Voice 8: no
[0:04:22] Voice 5: just just that i unfortunately had a pre-existing appointment that i have to leave
[0:04:28] Voice 5: that too and i wasn't sure how long the meeting went for and whereabouts i was in the um you know
[0:04:35] Voice 5: so if i have to leave my partner jennifer nicole little will be uh stepping in and yeah just
[0:04:42] Voice 5: wanted to maybe give you any idea whereabouts in the oh
[0:04:45] Voice 8: we'll be coming to you quite soon
[0:04:47] Voice 8: i would
[0:04:48] Voice 8: say probably another 15 minutes perfect
[0:04:50] Voice 5: great thank you okay that's it
[0:04:52] Voice 5: okay right on okay
[0:04:54] Voice 8: Okay. So I don't see any other speakers in the waiting room. And we have another town hall at
[0:05:06] Voice 8: the end. So we can try again, see if anybody wants to. No, no, no. Okay. We'll move on then.
[0:05:15] Voice 8: Um, so we've got minutes for adoption. Item 7.1, dated January 26, 2026.
[0:05:23] Voice 8: 26 there are any additions or amendments to those minutes no all good okay i'll take it by general
[0:05:33] Voice 8: consent that the local trust committee minutes dated january 26 2026 be adopted and we have
[0:05:41] Voice 8: the record of public hearing uh related to the bylaws that received third reading january 26
[0:05:50] Voice 8: 2026 that is for receipt and our resolutions without meeting report so moving to our follow-up
[0:06:01] Voice 8: action list um any questions from the trustees or updates from staff on these items it's page
[0:06:12] Voice 8: 17 of our agenda well we are moving right along
[0:06:37] Voice 8: it's just so eerily quiet to be talking to my computer i have to say
[0:06:42] Voice 8: i miss being in the room with you all um okay so no delegations and no correspondence so
[0:06:51] Voice 8: we will move quite quickly to uh miss lubar lubarius's application 11.1
[0:07:00] Voice 8: MAPL DBP 2025-0478. That's on page 19 of our agendas. So Bruce, if you wouldn't mind
[0:07:09] Voice 8: introducing it and walking us through your report. Sure, thank
[0:07:14] Voice 2: you. Yeah, so this is a new
[0:07:18] Voice 2: development variance permit application to vary the maximum permitted height for an accessory
[0:07:25] Voice 2: building by increasing the height from the five meter maximum for accessory buildings to 8.59
[0:07:32] Voice 2: meters for this new build. And the applicant wishes to use the accessory building for storage
[0:07:38] Voice 2: and workspace prior to construction of a dwelling on the property. And the rationale being to keep
[0:07:45] Voice 2: the total building footprint limited and increase the height to allow for more functional working
[0:07:51] Voice 2: and storage space. And the property is located at 555 Glen Echo Road. And also to note is that
[0:08:00] Voice 2: this property received a variance in 2023 for the same project, but the permit did expire
[0:08:11] Voice 2: in June of 2025 without the work being able to be completed. So planning staff determined that
[0:08:19] Voice 2: a new permit would be required in order to carry out the work and there's been no responses to the
[0:08:25] Voice 2: public notification for the proposed variance and staff consider that the variance is minor
[0:08:30] Voice 2: and would have minimal impacts on neighboring properties and therefore staff are recommending
[0:08:36] Voice 2: that the main island local trust committee approve issuance of development variance for
[0:08:40] Voice 2: Permit PL-DVP-2025-0478. Thanks. Thank
[0:08:50] Voice 8: you, Bruce. I'll just turn to the applicant,
[0:08:56] Voice 8: Ms. Lubardius. Do you wish to add anything? And we can ask you questions if that's okay.
[0:09:06] Voice 8: Trustees, do you have any questions?
[0:09:09] Voice 4: I don't have any questions. I mean,
[0:09:11] Voice 4: these are large properties it's a very rural area so the impact is would be marginal in that
[0:09:17] Voice 4: particular property and and i i know that the previous uh structure i think that did not have
[0:09:23] Voice 4: a variance has been i think it's been removed i don't think it's there now okay
[0:09:29] Trustee Maude: that's great
[0:09:33] Voice 8: yeah trustee mott uh
[0:09:35] Trustee Maude: thank you chair um yeah this is about as straightforward as i think
[0:09:39] Trustee Maude: we could possibly have an um we've already approved it previously um uh there's i have
[0:09:47] Trustee Maude: i didn't have any concerns in the previous application i certainly don't have any concerns
[0:09:52] Trustee Maude: on on this new application um so i and so as a result i have no questions
[0:09:59] Trustee Maude: this is about as simple as it gets for me and then and pleased to support it
[0:10:04] Voice 5: okay great okay
[0:10:07] Voice 4: Okay. I'll move that the Maine Island Local Trust Committee approve issuance of development
[0:10:12] Voice 4: variance permit PLVVP 2025-0478.
[0:10:19] Voice 8: Wonderful. And I have a seconder, a mover, and a seconder.
[0:10:23] Voice 8: Thank you. Any
[0:10:25] Voice 5: discussion
[0:10:29] Voice 8: on the motion? No. All those in favor, raise your hand or say aye.
[0:10:34] Voice 8: okay and that is carried okay thank you thank you all staff
[0:10:40] Voice 8: front load all the work and then we get
[0:10:42] Voice 8: the same good job and well done we wish you success with you thank you thank you
[0:10:49] Voice 8: can
[0:10:50] Voice 4: i just
[0:10:51] Voice 4: ask a question of bruce so i'm curious so if someone gets applies for variance and then
[0:10:56] Voice 4: doesn't actually do any construction could can they not just if they before it actually ends
[0:11:02] Voice 4: can they apply for an extension or is this has to be done within a specific
[0:11:06] Voice 4: period of time or else?
[0:11:09] Voice 2: I believe we don't really have like an extension process.
[0:11:13] Voice 2: And within that permit,
[0:11:14] Voice 2: there's a set period of time where you need where that work needs to commence
[0:11:17] Voice 2: in order for the permit to be valid. And in this case,
[0:11:21] Voice 2: they hadn't begun the work. So yeah,
[0:11:24] Voice 2: they needed to reapply because that had expired.
[0:11:28] Voice 2: Okay.
[0:11:30] Voice 4: To my knowledge, it's never happened before. So maybe we just remind people when, because it costs the money to apply for the variant. So it would be a good idea to move forward on at least starting the project in the future.
[0:11:45] Voice 8: That's good. Trustee Maughan?
[0:11:47] Voice 8: Yeah,
[0:11:48] Trustee Maude: just following up on that. So it's not about completion, it's about beginning. So if the applicant in this case had maybe taken an excavator and just dug a foundation, would that have triggered that timeline to be, or is it about project completion or project beginning?
[0:12:05] Trustee Maude: beginning
[0:12:07] Voice 2: um i'm just going to look at the wording specifically because it's i think i believe it's
[0:12:13] Voice 2: commenced which is kind of arguable what that could be but
[0:12:17] Voice 2: it needs to be significant it needs
[0:12:19] Voice 2: to be a commenced enough that it's uh that the product has has been considered you know started
[0:12:28] Voice 2: and i think i mean you could argue that just clearing the land isn't really enough to commence
[0:12:34] Voice 2: the work because that could be, you know, extended for, you know, multiple years or
[0:12:40] Voice 2: something like that.
[0:12:41] Voice 2: It needs to be so that it's within the period so that the variance is still valid and the
[0:12:47] Voice 2: public notification is still valid that the concerns of the community are still relevant
[0:12:54] Voice 2: to the current work.
[0:12:58] Trustee Maude: Okay, thank you.
[0:12:59] Trustee Maude: It's just, as Trustee Dodds noted, it's sort of the first time I've run across this and
[0:13:03] Trustee Maude: And it's good to have that information so we can answer questions like this.
[0:13:08] Trustee Maude: Thank you.
[0:13:09] Voice 8: Yeah, that's great.
[0:13:10] Voice 8: Thank you.
[0:13:12] Voice 8: Okay, we'll move to 7.2, the TUP Zimmerman application.
[0:13:20] Voice 8: And again, or sorry, it's on page 43.
[0:13:23] Voice 8: Turn it over to you, Bruce.
[0:13:26] Voice 2: Thanks.
[0:13:27] Voice 2: Yes, this is a new temporary use permit application for an annual music festival
[0:13:33] Voice 2: to be held on the weekend of June 21st and additional uses include outdoor concerts,
[0:13:43] Voice 2: indoor concerts and community events to operate to a limited capacity and a limited number of
[0:13:50] Voice 2: times throughout the year. So the property is located at 281 Village Bay Road which is near
[0:13:57] Voice 2: the village bay ferry terminal and is approximately 44 acres in total area the property includes areas
[0:14:06] Voice 2: for parking camping and then a designated festival area where their uh the performances will be
[0:14:13] Voice 2: taking place the drafted permit would allow the outdoor music festival to operate um two days per
[0:14:20] Voice 2: year and with a maximum of 500 people, though in the application, that is sort of a capped
[0:14:27] Voice 2: maximum that they don't intend to operate to that right away, but sort of has the opportunity
[0:14:33] Voice 2: to over the course of this permit, if it's issued for three years, and then if a renewal
[0:14:38] Voice 2: was issued for an additional three years, it gives them the opportunity to expand up
[0:14:42] Voice 2: to that 500 maximum.
[0:14:45] Voice 2: And that's all outlined in the draft permit.
[0:14:48] Voice 2: And the draft permit also includes requirements for parking spaces to accommodate 400 vehicles, as well as hours of operation not to exceed 10.30pm for outdoor concerts, and it also limits the camping to the annual music festival use.
[0:15:06] Voice 2: use. The additional uses within the draft permit of the indoor concerts, outdoor concerts, and
[0:15:13] Voice 2: community events are limited in their total capacity and then also limited in their total
[0:15:20] Voice 2: occurrences throughout the year. And those are outlined in that table one on the report.
[0:15:26] Voice 2: And the applicant is working with the Vancouver Island Health Authority to meet the requirements
[0:15:31] Voice 2: for potable water, hand-washing, water disposal,
[0:15:35] Voice 2: and they're also getting a certification for a temporary kitchen
[0:15:39] Voice 2: that will be used for the summer festival.
[0:15:42] Voice 2: And water will be purchased and transported to the site
[0:15:46] Voice 2: and not drawn from the well on the property.
[0:15:50] Voice 2: And sanitation will also need to meet the applicable bylaws
[0:15:53] Voice 2: required through Vancouver Island Health Authority.
[0:15:57] Voice 2: Um, and, uh, following the public notification period for the proposed permit, uh, staff
[0:16:05] Voice 2: have received two letters with, uh, concerns for the application.
[0:16:08] Voice 2: One, which focused on, uh, the, the use of water on the property.
[0:16:15] Voice 2: Um, and another focused on the, uh, number of vehicles permitted, uh, for parking and
[0:16:23] Voice 2: also the congestion that would relate on Village Bay Road.
[0:16:27] Voice 2: The property includes two access points on Village Bay Road, two sort of driveways, so the south driveway would be intended to be used as an entrance, and the north driveway would be used as an exit, so meant to limit congestion and have two ways out of the property.
[0:16:47] Voice 2: And the proximity to the ferry terminal and position on the CRD regional trail does make the proposed festival location possible for pedestrian and cyclist transportation as well.
[0:17:00] Voice 2: The proposal is also providing space for new community events on Main Island, which does meet one of the OCP objectives focused on encouraging economic diversity in the local economy and responsible tourism.
[0:17:17] Voice 2: and the proposed use is all clearly identified with attendance, parking, and hours of operation
[0:17:23] Voice 2: limit and limitations in the draft permit. And the permit provides conditions consistent with
[0:17:30] Voice 2: the OCP guidelines for temporary use permits to ensure that the use does not have an unreasonable
[0:17:35] Voice 2: impact on the surrounding areas. And in the event that it does, there is the ability to enforce
[0:17:41] Voice 2: compliance with the temporary use permit. So based on all of these points, staff recommend that the
[0:17:48] Voice 2: Main Island Local Trust Committee approve issuance of temporary use permit PLTUP-2026-0035
[0:17:58] Voice 2: for a period of three years. Thanks.
[0:18:03] Voice 8: Thanks again, Bruce. Trustees, do you have questions
[0:18:07] Voice 8: or comments. Go ahead, Trustee Mon.
[0:18:09] Trustee Maude: Thank you, Chair. No, this is another one of these, I think,
[0:18:13] Trustee Maude: very straightforward applications. This applicant has had smaller events on the property over
[0:18:21] Trustee Maude: recent years. I've heard nothing but extreme compliments for the organization. The location
[0:18:30] Trustee Maude: is quite appropriate because it really has no affected neighbors um and so um from an island
[0:18:39] Trustee Maude: standpoint you know i've heard nothing but positive feedback about the operators uh about
[0:18:44] Trustee Maude: the performers about the way things have been handled um and of course with the the way that
[0:18:51] Trustee Maude: things are going with the camel bay music festival sort of um changing their format um this is a
[0:18:58] Trustee Maude: a reasonable alternative for the community.
[0:19:02] Trustee Maude: And certainly the economic spinoffs for the community is very,
[0:19:07] Trustee Maude: very positive. So I'm very pleased to support this. Thank you.
[0:19:12] Trustee Maude: That's
[0:19:13] Voice 8: great. Trustee Dodds.
[0:19:15] Voice 4: Yeah.
[0:19:15] Voice 4: And we already have experience with what was called the Campbell Bay music
[0:19:20] Voice 4: festival at this time of year,
[0:19:21] Voice 4: which was held on property that had a fairly major road that went past.
[0:19:27] Voice 4: I mean, certainly it's a busy time and certainly traffic, but the management of that festival has been superb.
[0:19:35] Voice 4: And I have every confidence that this will be every bit as good, if not because of its proximity to the bike pathway and to the ferry.
[0:19:44] Voice 4: And I think actually probably a better parking situation, too.
[0:19:47] Voice 4: So I have no difficulties with this.
[0:19:50] Voice 4: I'm glad to see it expanded to what's been taking place on the 44.
[0:19:55] Voice 4: for definitely a community asset um i'm quite confident that i know i know it people love going
[0:20:03] Voice 4: there and i think it'll be very successful so um
[0:20:08] Voice 8: this isn't really related to the applicant is it
[0:20:10] Voice 8: the same organizer but just a different location as it's
[0:20:14] Voice 8: totally separate okay
[0:20:16] Voice 4: but but with with
[0:20:17] Voice 4: the history and the backing and the support of so so it's still basically somewhat similar to
[0:20:25] Voice 4: what we've we've experienced in the past but on a different scale
[0:20:28] Voice 9: but
[0:20:30] Voice 4: i mean there's yes tons of
[0:20:31] Voice 4: experience have been accumulated already from the campbell bay music festival on on what works and
[0:20:36] Voice 4: how to keep things under control etc so
[0:20:40] Voice 8: you don't have any concerns about the water or the
[0:20:43] Voice 8: well
[0:20:44] Voice 4: i and there there again i mean the reality is that that this that area and is coming through
[0:20:50] Voice 4: island health which is responsible for that area so i have every confidence that they will ensure
[0:20:55] Voice 4: sure that water that comes on site and that is the intention is to bring the water onto the site
[0:21:00] Voice 4: so there will be storage of potable water especially if there's a kitchen and in terms of
[0:21:06] Voice 4: of toilet facilities as well i think that it's island health that should be dealing with that
[0:21:12] Voice 4: and that is part of the cup says that's who they will work with says say campbell bay we've not
[0:21:19] Voice 4: had issues that's great okay
[0:21:24] Voice 7: if
[0:21:25] Voice 8: so there's no further questions or comments and i'll note that
[0:21:28] Voice 8: the applicant is not in attendance today um go ahead
[0:21:34] Voice 4: i'll move that the main island local trust
[0:21:37] Voice 4: committee approve issuance of temporary use permit pl tup 2026 0035 for a period of three years
[0:21:46] Voice 8: moved and i have a seconder trustee laud any more discussion no
[0:21:54] Voice 4: i do think it's important to know
[0:21:55] Voice 4: that we've already had vast experience with events on that property that have gone on for a number of
[0:22:00] Voice 4: years and with campus so so this is is nothing surprising shocking or new to the island so i'm
[0:22:07] Voice 4: quite confident that everything will work out just fine looking
[0:22:12] Voice 8: forward to it hope i can visit
[0:22:14] Voice 8: it yeah walk off the ferry there you
[0:22:17] Voice 4: go exactly
[0:22:18] Voice 8: all those in favor raise your hand or say aye
[0:22:21] Voice 8: and excellent that is carried thank you for another excellent piece of work bruce and um
[0:22:30] Voice 8: look forward to hearing how that goes this are they opening this summer i'm yes my name yeah
[0:22:38] Voice 4: this summer and and also speaking to the report i mean there's a lot of detail in there and there
[0:22:43] Voice 4: There was a lot of thought given into the different events that were going
[0:22:46] Voice 4: through the years are really nicely coordinated program to where people will
[0:22:50] Voice 4: have,
[0:22:51] Voice 4: have the knowledge well ahead of time of when activities are happening on
[0:22:54] Voice 4: that site. So very impressive. Thank you, Bruce.
[0:22:57] Voice 8: Yeah, that's great.
[0:22:58] Voice 8: Well, excellent. We will turn now to 11.3,
[0:23:04] Voice 8: the rezoning and proposed bylaws 194 and 195.
[0:23:10] Voice 8: This is consideration for adoption.
[0:23:12] Voice 8: option i see that the applicant from the crd is in the waiting room welcome kevin mr weber
[0:23:18] Voice 8: and we could promote uh mr weber to speaker perhaps emily and we'll turn to page 66
[0:23:28] Voice 8: in our agendas and this is um from you narissa or are we going to have yep
[0:23:35] Voice 3: this is uh this is
[0:23:37] Voice 3: this is one of my final things well we've still got the housing uh bylaws that are with the
[0:23:42] Voice 3: ministry um so yeah this is st john point park um so the park is currently zoned so the st john
[0:23:54] Voice 3: point park is is um owned by the crd and it is currently and they've got a they've got a regional
[0:24:01] Voice 3: park management plan it's currently zoned as agriculture and rural and so we we needed uh
[0:24:09] Voice 3: And there is a OCP designation change from rural to resource conservation for the portion that's rural.
[0:24:23] Voice 3: And then for the agricultural portion in the land use bylaw, it is going to be split zoned so that we can address the portion.
[0:24:36] Voice 3: there's a portion where the park hub will be so the CRD received approval
[0:24:43] Voice 3: from the agricultural land reserve to use that for non park use and so the
[0:24:48] Voice 3: portion which is identified on the map related to bylaw 195 identifies a small
[0:24:56] Voice 3: square that will be site specific and allow only the uses that are indicated
[0:25:02] Voice 3: indicated um for the what they're calling the their park hub so that includes uh the entrance
[0:25:08] Voice 3: sign parking toilet a bike rack visitor information kiosk and this so this has been approved by the
[0:25:18] Voice 3: ministry so um at this point it's just a matter of approving it the ltc approving the both the uh
[0:25:24] Voice 3: the ocp and the land use bylaw amendments excellent
[0:25:31] Voice 8: thank you planner chadwick
[0:25:35] Voice 8: um trustees uh do you have questions and then we'll open the floor to Mr. Weber
[0:25:40] Voice 8: for any additional comments just yeah go ahead not
[0:25:46] Voice 4: a question it's just as I think Mr. Weber
[0:25:48] Voice 4: will know is communities very anxious to see the facilities in place as soon as possible
[0:25:55] Voice 4: that's parking and specifically the washrooms the lack of washrooms so so it's this has been
[0:26:01] Voice 4: quite a long process since the park was purchased waiting waiting for those facilities needs
[0:26:11] Voice 8: okay
[0:26:16] Voice 8: well i don't imagine there is any desire of this committee to halt the proceedings
[0:26:22] Voice 8: no let's um let's move it forward if there's no more questions or comments
[0:26:30] Voice 8: i'd be happy to entertain a motion oh
[0:26:32] Voice 4: i i move that the main island local trust committee bylaw
[0:26:35] Voice 4: law 194 cited as main island official community plan bylaw number 144 2007 amendment number 1
[0:26:44] Voice 4: 2024 be adopted wonderful
[0:26:47] Voice 8: moved and i have a seconder with trustee mond any more discussion
[0:26:52] Voice 8: all those in favor please raise your hand or say aye
[0:26:56] Voice 8: carried and
[0:26:59] Voice 4: i move that the main local trust committee bylaw 195 cited as main island land
[0:27:04] Voice 4: land use bylaw number 146 2008 amendment number 1 2024 be adopted excellent
[0:27:12] Voice 8: moved and i have
[0:27:13] Voice 8: seconder trustee mond any discussion all those in favor raise your hand or say aye and that is
[0:27:21] Voice 8: carried yeah it's
[0:27:22] Voice 4: been it's been two years yeah i forgot how long this and we waited for the the
[0:27:28] Voice 4: the land commission permissions oh really yeah i think that took a while to get that sorted out
[0:27:36] Voice 8: well thanking the community for your patience and looking forward to
[0:27:41] Voice 8: seeing this uh park entrance sign and a visitor kiosk and a 20
[0:27:46] Voice 8: vehicle parking lot and a bicycle
[0:27:47] Voice 8: crack congratulations um oh go ahead no okay that's it then and so that concludes our
[0:28:03] Voice 8: applications and referral section although we want to take a breath because that was really fast
[0:28:08] Voice 8: it
[0:28:09] Voice 4: was easy easy
[0:28:12] Voice 8: breathtakingly fast all right um okay well we'll move into our report section
[0:28:19] Voice 8: We've got our active projects report and our future projects list.
[0:28:25] Voice 8: Any comments on those or desire to change anything, updates on the housing options project
[0:28:31] Voice 8: at all?
[0:28:41] Voice 8: Yeah, it's nice to have these future projects cleaned up and tidied up.
[0:28:46] Voice 8: So if you have any more thoughts on this.
[0:28:52] Voice 8: Marisa, can you remind me what the third one was?
[0:28:55] Voice 8: First Nation Reserve land access to water and power?
[0:29:01] Voice 3: um i can't remember i think janine i think that was one that you brought up i
[0:29:07] Voice 4: think i think going
[0:29:08] Voice 4: back to the the the 44 the property that just got the tup yes
[0:29:13] Voice 9: that's right at
[0:29:14] Voice 4: some point we talked
[0:29:15] Voice 4: about about housing another possibility that property adjoins on to the sarlup reserve
[0:29:21] Voice 4: and certainly one of the conversations that was held some time ago pointed out that there's a lack
[0:29:30] Voice 4: facilities for the reserve land at this time so if this tup was eventually to be applied for as
[0:29:37] Voice 4: a rezoning then we should always be looking for opportunity if we can not necessarily through tup
[0:29:44] Voice 4: but certainly through rezoning that maybe some access to power and and and water would be be
[0:29:52] Voice 4: an option for the reserve lands um i'm not say i'm not sure what else but it's something we should
[0:29:57] Voice 4: keep there and keep in mind um there's not
[0:30:00] Voice 4: lot of private properties that serve around the reserve but that is a significant property so
[0:30:05] Voice 4: good example there okay
[0:30:07] Voice 8: thank you any more comments or clarifications that we can add to the
[0:30:14] Voice 8: future projects list i i
[0:30:18] Voice 4: i think the groundwater and cistern implicate and and the conversations
[0:30:23] Voice 4: that are going to happen around water could be are going to end and the foreshore education we
[0:30:28] Voice 4: We really need to be just staying put on a few small projects
[0:30:33] Voice 4: and getting things done.
[0:30:35] Voice 4: A lot of it's going to involve community information and consultation too
[0:30:41] Voice 4: because we have a lot of issues on the foreshore that pop up all the time
[0:30:45] Voice 4: and we need to get the community more involved in what's going on
[0:30:48] Voice 4: on the foreshore and who's responsible for what.
[0:30:51] Voice 4: So I see those as a lot of community meetings and conversations.
[0:30:55] Voice 4: conversations so
[0:30:58] Voice 8: i guess i have a question for narissa because you've been involved in the
[0:31:05] Voice 8: regional planning team a bit more um and this relates to one of robert kojima's last pieces
[0:31:13] Voice 8: of work which was to establish some criteria by which the minor projects would be vetted
[0:31:19] Voice 8: and that hasn't come to trust council yet um regional planning committee had a an early review
[0:31:25] Voice 8: you um but basically it's to so that a a minor project isn't just started at the sort of a whim
[0:31:37] Voice 8: um and then that there's careful thought put into the dedication of resources and staff
[0:31:45] Voice 8: availability and sort of sequencing minor projects say after a major ocp update um
[0:31:52] Voice 8: Um, so, and also I, I wanted to bring up that there will be some consideration that these
[0:31:59] Voice 8: should be planning focused and not communications or advocacy related, cause that's more TAS's,
[0:32:08] Voice 8: um, realm.
[0:32:09] Voice 8: So I just wanted to, yeah, ask if Planner Chadwick, if you have any thoughts on that
[0:32:14] Voice 8: and any way that that's sort of shaping up in the in the planning team and sort of how the
[0:32:24] Voice 8: director might evaluate requests for small or for these minor projects coming forward
[0:32:32] Voice 3: yeah so i mean i guess i can shed a little bit of light on um sort of where the conversation is at
[0:32:38] Voice 3: at the regional planning team level and um and so there are a number of major projects that are
[0:32:45] Voice 3: are moving forward that are essentially creating um like templates um so a lot of the ground work
[0:32:53] Voice 3: is being done um which makes it easier than uh it takes projects out of the major project realm
[0:33:03] Voice 3: into more of a minor project realm for example um the galliano um groundwater um
[0:33:11] Voice 3: was it critical aquifer protection DPA?
[0:33:18] Voice 3: That's one now where we now through that major project,
[0:33:22] Voice 3: we now have guidelines and we now have a methodology for identifying a
[0:33:27] Voice 3: development permit area related to that data.
[0:33:30] Voice 3: So that then becomes a minor project because we have that foundational stuff.
[0:33:39] Voice 3: And so I think the key is that with the project work coming out of LTCs, the minor projects shouldn't be major projects because sometimes that happens.
[0:33:49] Voice 3: And what turns a minor project into a major project is when the LTC starts engaging in something where we don't have, like we haven't either done the big work or, yeah, or it's just, it just started off, like, just poorly characterized because the bigger work wasn't anticipated.
[0:34:12] Voice 3: So, like I said, we're moving towards a model where we can effectively do the big work within the major projects and then roll it out as minor projects.
[0:34:21] Voice 3: And then, I mean, speaking to the education aspect of it, it's definitely a key piece, but it should really be connected to an actual project.
[0:34:33] Voice 3: So in terms of the, if it's being done by a local planning team, so in terms of foreshore education and marine zoning, if that's to be just strictly an education piece, then that would be something that would be dealt with by TAS.
[0:34:49] Voice 3: But if it is being done in connection to the development of a foreshore development permit area, for example, then that would come more into the realm of planning.
[0:35:04] Voice 3: So that's, I don't know if that helps, Chair Elliott.
[0:35:08] Voice 3: Is that answering your question?
[0:35:10] Voice 3: i
[0:35:11] Voice 8: just kind of wanted to surface the conversation a little bit earlier um while we still have you
[0:35:18] Voice 8: with the main local trust committee because i think things are shaping up differently as the
[0:35:24] Voice 8: regional planning team is more organized or able to take on um i think these larger projects that
[0:35:32] Voice 8: can benefit everyone um so i just wanted to to raise the conversation just to let you know that
[0:35:40] Voice 8: this this might be taking shape and it might be it's really because trust count it's also because
[0:35:47] Voice 8: trust council has been asking staff and the directors to really allocate resources like
[0:35:56] Voice 8: be careful about allocating resources and include that in consideration projects so communities
[0:36:00] Voice 8: aren't waiting you know we we say we want to start a project but then it doesn't get going because we
[0:36:06] Voice 8: We just don't have staff resources.
[0:36:08] Voice 8: So leaving it a little bit more up to the director to organize and ensure that we can start these projects and that they have a tight timeline.
[0:36:17] Voice 8: They're not going to drag on and turn into major projects, like Narissa said.
[0:36:23] Voice 3: Yeah, I think that's the key.
[0:36:25] Voice 3: And I think there's still some work on our part.
[0:36:28] Voice 3: Like it's an evolve.
[0:36:30] Voice 3: It's evolving.
[0:36:30] Voice 3: evolving, you know, we've, we've sort of created the we created the regional planning team.
[0:36:36] Voice 3: We're seeing the value of it roll out. For example, the housing the housing work that's
[0:36:44] Voice 3: been done on Maine has really created some, some template language for, for other local
[0:36:52] Voice 3: local trust committees and so um you know with that it you know again using main as example um
[0:36:59] Voice 3: if for example um another ltc wanted to um write a by uh write a bylaw uh related to tps for rvs
[0:37:12] Voice 9: then
[0:37:13] Voice 3: that's it that's an easy that's a that's a minor project um but where they're create but
[0:37:18] Voice 3: but where something new is being created,
[0:37:19] Voice 3: then it becomes more of a major project.
[0:37:23] Voice 3: You know, and there's things like, for example,
[0:37:26] Voice 3: we're creating some language
[0:37:29] Voice 3: related to First Nations acknowledgements.
[0:37:34] Voice 9: You
[0:37:35] Voice 3: know, and that's something that Maine
[0:37:36] Voice 3: might want to consider putting on their list of,
[0:37:41] Voice 3: and that would be, well, it could become,
[0:37:45] Voice 3: in the South, it's more because we haven't,
[0:37:48] Voice 3: uh we don't have the formal relationships with the nations and there's many of them
[0:37:54] Voice 3: it could become more more a larger project potentially but we are sort of um moving forward
[0:38:02] Voice 3: in the north with those acknowledgments at least with the projects that are currently open
[0:38:11] Voice 8: yeah do you have any questions trustees i know this is sort of early days we haven't seen anything
[0:38:17] Voice 8: think at council yet and i don't think we will for march um this is sort of reorganizing and
[0:38:23] Voice 8: planning for next term i think
[0:38:24] Voice 9: um
[0:38:25] Voice 8: so yeah i mean this has not been a problem on main we
[0:38:30] Voice 8: we finished projects here uh there's no real concerns um yeah i think it's it's just part
[0:38:38] Voice 8: of the growing up of our organization okay yeah that's all my questions um
[0:38:50] Voice 8: so i'll know we're taking on under there sorry go ahead there i just
[0:38:55] Voice 4: noticed amy is now attending
[0:38:57] Voice 4: and she i don't know if she's aware that we've already dealt with her application oh and
[0:39:02] Voice 4: we're
[0:39:04] Voice 8: fast
[0:39:04] Voice 4: um
[0:39:05] Voice 8: miss zimmerman we've um we've already approved your application so
[0:39:08] Voice 9: you're good to go
[0:39:13] Voice 8: oh yeah did you want to speak yeah
[0:39:16] Voice 9: okay
[0:39:18] Voice 8: we can promote her to speaker just yeah go ahead
[0:39:23] Voice 7: oh hello can you hear us hi there oh it's just it's sandra from old hat arts and amy
[0:39:29] Voice 7: from the 44 we just uh yeah we just looked on the agenda and saw it was at 135 so we missed
[0:39:35] Voice 7: our time but we just wanted to say thank you and yes we are here but if uh if if we're good to go
[0:39:42] Voice 7: and we appreciate your time and thank you so much that's great we
[0:39:47] Voice 8: uh we appreciate you popping in
[0:39:48] Voice 8: and uh sorry about that we sped through our uh our work today so great okay really okay well
[0:39:55] Voice 7: we appreciate the the looking at our application and thank you so much and
[0:40:01] Voice 4: all the best yeah
[0:40:02] Voice 7: to
[0:40:02] Voice 4: your
[0:40:05] Voice 7: success it's gonna be awesome we appreciate that thank you take care
[0:40:14] Voice 8: that's great okay okay so nothing further on future projects um we've got our open applications
[0:40:24] Voice 8: report and our expenses can
[0:40:29] Voice 4: i ask a question so louise louise giroux um this has been around
[0:40:36] Voice 4: since 2024 and there was all sorts of issues with this property including um stairs on the
[0:40:43] Voice 4: the concrete pad on the foreshore etc etc so what's what why have we not moved forward with
[0:40:51] Voice 4: this particular application i yeah
[0:40:56] Voice 2: so um this has sort of been a collaboration with the bylaw
[0:41:01] Voice 2: enforcement because the the issue with this the concrete pad turned it yeah ended up not being on
[0:41:07] Voice 2: their property so we had to work with um we have that's that's sort of now a bylaw enforcement
[0:41:14] Voice 2: issue and the the planning aspect is focusing on the there's a retaining wall on the property as
[0:41:21] Voice 2: well and then also the um the previously construct there's the studio the sighting of the studio
[0:41:28] Voice 2: and then there's also a previously constructed um uh i guess like uh i think it's a garage slash
[0:41:37] Voice 2: studio building that was there
[0:41:39] Voice 2: was an issue with the height for that so we've kind of we're trying
[0:41:41] Voice 2: to compile everything into one application so i think we're just waiting on a updated survey
[0:41:48] Voice 2: and then we will hopefully bring that back to the local trust committee for um uh for review
[0:41:58] Voice 2: not probably in the next couple of months i think we're expecting that survey pretty soon
[0:42:03] Voice 2: we
[0:42:04] Voice 4: did we did vary the one studio so they yeah it's been quite a bit of activity so it'd be
[0:42:10] Voice 4: good to get it cleaned up okay especially the retaining wall issue okay thank you very much
[0:42:15] Voice 4: good great
[0:42:18] Voice 8: any questions for me trustee mob no
[0:42:21] Trustee Maude: it's uh very happy
[0:42:23] Voice 8: okay all right then um
[0:42:28] Voice 8: so we did have some discussion on our standing resolutions and sort of brought that forward to
[0:42:35] Voice 8: executive committee um in respect to standing resolution 2020 022 um you know a question
[0:42:47] Voice 8: was brought forward here that having these resolutions and then not having not doing any
[0:42:53] Voice 8: work on them or not taking action on any of them and having them on our agendas month after month
[0:42:59] Voice 8: month is kind of seen as well can be disrespectful and are they better captured as
[0:43:08] Voice 8: relationship building initiatives undertaken by trust area services rather than the local
[0:43:15] Voice 8: trust committee so that was raised at executive committee and director freighter said she is
[0:43:22] Voice 8: is hopeful that all of this sort of rolls into the reconciliation action plan and it won't be
[0:43:31] Voice 8: necessary in a short time to see these standing resolutions because there's really nothing the
[0:43:37] Voice 8: LTC can do unless it's part of a project or unless we have those relationships
[0:43:45] Voice 8: partnerships um sort of on a person elected leader to elected leader um already in place
[0:43:54] Voice 8: so yeah we're going to continue having discussion about that all right uh i think we're at the
[0:44:02] Voice 8: short-term rental accommodation principal residence opt-in section if i'm not mistaken
[0:44:07] Voice 8: did i skip something any comments on this briefing this was asked to be circulated following the um
[0:44:15] Voice 8: um presentation at trust council in december december um so the time is short you could
[0:44:28] Voice 8: still opt in if this ltc is no no not interested didn't think so yeah
[0:44:36] Voice 4: no no because basically we
[0:44:38] Voice 4: already you know all right permit them in as a home occupation in legal cottages or permitted
[0:44:44] Voice 4: to cottages and then anything beyond that temporary use permits are available so this would not
[0:44:50] Voice 4: to me suit the needs or the desires the desires of the community and we've we've been lucky to
[0:44:57] Voice 4: have sort of i think kept a reasonable lid on the booming trade in short-term vacation rental so
[0:45:04] Voice 4: very yeah i think we're we're fine good but
[0:45:08] Voice 4: good to have the information appreciate that
[0:45:11] Voice 8: and I apologize I skipped over our reports um so forgive me Carly if we can flip back to 13.6
[0:45:21] Voice 8: I'll give my chair's report and what do we have well there's a a lot to consider in our
[0:45:33] Voice 8: next executive committee meeting on February 25th um just to note that there there will be
[0:45:41] Voice 8: a joint is it a joint resolution the avicc resolution that vice chair peterson proposed
[0:45:47] Voice 8: or is that being put forward by pathet i
[0:45:52] Trustee Maude: think it's because that i think yeah
[0:45:55] Voice 8: so because that's
[0:45:56] Voice 8: taking the lead um islands trust didn't put forward a resolution this year so association
[0:46:01] Voice 8: vancouver island coastal communities annually get together in springtime and so there is a
[0:46:07] Voice 8: proposed resolution regarding remote ports, requesting that Transport Canada cease divestment
[0:46:13] Voice 8: efforts of remote port facilities. I guess there's some danger of some of these very dependent
[0:46:21] Voice 8: communities having their ports downloaded to them, which they do not want. We've got a lot of
[0:46:30] Voice 8: um bylaw um bylaws to consider uh including the main island housing project bylaws of
[0:46:39] Voice 8: two more significant ones coming out of galliano um might be of interest to members of the public
[0:46:46] Voice 8: related to two rezonings and resulting in about a hundred acres being returned to penelaket tribe
[0:46:55] Voice 8: and um this was has been in their ocp for a long time and only because of the passage of bill 13
[0:47:05] Voice 8: which allowed um finally in 2024 first nations to be able to hold title to land as a an indigenous
[0:47:15] Voice 8: governing body um the land was able to be donated and returned to them as part of this rezoning so
[0:47:22] Voice 8: So it's quite an interesting one to look at.
[0:47:25] Voice 8: So we're considering the agenda for Trust Council, which will be held in Couttson Centre, I believe.
[0:47:35] Voice 8: Where is that agenda?
[0:47:37] Voice 4: March the 4th.
[0:47:38] Voice 8: March the 4th, thank you.
[0:47:40] Voice 4: Oh, sorry, no, 3rd, 4th.
[0:47:42] Voice 8: It's 10th.
[0:47:43] Voice 4: The 3rd, 4th, and 5th.
[0:47:44] Voice 4: Yes, 3rd, 4th, and 5th.
[0:47:46] Voice 8: Isn't it the 10th, 11th, and 12th?
[0:47:48] Voice 4: Oh, no, sorry, I'm quite wrong.
[0:47:50] Voice 8: sorry i'm looking
[0:47:52] Voice 4: at the wrong calendar
[0:47:52] Voice 8: 11th and 12th i was like looking at it going yeah
[0:47:57] Voice 8: oh okay there's the executive committee where is it yeah so we're at the cowlinson center
[0:48:04] Voice 8: in duncan uh 10th 11th and 12th and uh so yeah so we're reviewing everything coming forward
[0:48:13] Voice 8: there's going to be an object uh project update on the policy statement amendment project
[0:48:17] Voice 8: project budget process policy amendments natural area protection tax exemption program
[0:48:23] Voice 8: the hypothetical tax shift analysis so that's some work that was undertaken I believe it was
[0:48:30] Voice 8: funded by a grant of increasing the NAPTEP covenant tax shift and what the implications
[0:48:39] Voice 8: would be i guess um and then i wanted to highlight a few things from regional planning committee we
[0:48:49] Voice 8: met on february 6th and had a great presentation that i encourage you both janine and david if you
[0:48:57] Voice 8: can take a chance to listen to uh for the biologist who's been on staff uh for the last year
[0:49:04] Voice 8: on integrating biological information into land use decisions and also the species at risk
[0:49:10] Voice 8: coordinator who's been working not only with the conservancy but mainly um through the species at
[0:49:17] Voice 8: risk pro people and places something in places program um so both of those are grant funded
[0:49:25] Voice 8: um we'll be ending this um fiscal if it's not renewed and so it was really interesting to see
[0:49:32] Voice 8: were to hear how that the biologist has been able to i guess synergize um planning
[0:49:43] Voice 8: uh templates and our expectations for what we need to see in environmental reports because
[0:49:49] Voice 8: of course our planners are not biologists and so um there was a wide variety i guess of what
[0:49:55] Voice 8: was coming in um i don't know if you can speak to that at all marissa but it was it's a bit
[0:50:02] Voice 8: been a lot of work, but a lot of it's hard to understand unless you're speaking planning and
[0:50:09] Voice 8: biology language. We also had a long discussion on the freshwater sustainability strategy.
[0:50:17] Voice 8: There's a significant update on the website, which I also recommend you have a look at on
[0:50:24] Voice 8: the implementation of the freshwater sustainability strategy and what it's done
[0:50:30] Voice 8: done across the trust area to modernize the island's trust approach to freshwater governance
[0:50:37] Voice 8: and so sort of tied with this gabriola received the report which is sort of the capstone of that
[0:50:46] Voice 8: this whole phase of the freshwater sustainability strategy project which is a really focused look
[0:50:53] Voice 8: at the freshwater balance on gabriola is calling a freshwater footprint and how that will inform
[0:51:00] Voice 8: our ocp so that was a really good discussion we also received the bylaw compliance and review
[0:51:06] Voice 8: update approved it and sent it off to trust council so hopefully that project
[0:51:12] Voice 8: will after three years get um out into the air and out of committee land it feels like it's been
[0:51:20] Voice 8: forever and so that was good and then financial planning committee and committee of the whole met
[0:51:28] Voice 8: on February 18th. I know both of you were there, Trustee Dodds and Trustee Maud. We
[0:51:35] Voice 8: reviewed a reductions options list from staff totaling almost $500,000 in not recommendations.
[0:51:44] Voice 8: These are okay if you're going to have to cut $10,000 here, $5,000 here.
[0:51:52] Voice 8: um staff brought forward at our request um that list and i think about half of it was approved
[0:52:02] Voice 8: um so i think we did bring the total tax anticipated fee levy increase from
[0:52:10] Voice 8: i think it was sitting at 13.1 down to about two percent don't quote me on that because
[0:52:18] Voice 8: we didn't get a final number um and yeah just to note that all optional programs have already been
[0:52:30] Voice 8: cut um and that includes the secretariat services and stewardship education so if anyone's been
[0:52:37] Voice 8: benefiting from you know the rainwater harvesting stewardship education webinar or the species at
[0:52:45] Voice 8: risk there's been i think four per year so that will not be funded in the years to come and
[0:52:53] Voice 8: naptop applications so there is a lot of cutting and trimming i would say there's still
[0:52:58] Voice 8: a ways to go council will have to deliberate this in march so i don't know if you want to
[0:53:06] Voice 8: fill in any blanks or fill the air with blanks budget process because it's sure painful
[0:53:16] Voice 8: everybody wants everything and then when we see the price tag it's like oh we can't do it all
[0:53:24] Voice 8: so um that's about it we will meet and discuss at length in two days time and then we'll meet
[0:53:31] Voice 8: as a council that's about it for my report uh trustees do you have anything to share
[0:53:45] Voice 4: please i i attended yes i attended the committee of the whole and as toby says you know all these
[0:53:51] Voice 4: wonderful things that everybody would like are the reality is our budget is 11 point something
[0:53:58] Voice 4: million dollars 13 point something increase at a time when as we know the province is hurting
[0:54:05] Voice 4: individuals are hurting a lot of hard decisions were made so we did manage with some recommendations
[0:54:12] Voice 4: it's trust council that ultimately will decide on the entire budget and it's not it's not going to
[0:54:19] Voice 4: to be easy long long discussions uh the special meeting we had on the 18th went on for quite a
[0:54:25] Voice 4: while um and uh you know it's it's but it's the reality of the times that we're living in so i'm
[0:54:32] Voice 4: certainly glad i was in the meeting um and supported i think all of the reductions that
[0:54:38] Voice 4: were suggested to my knowledge they all passed and i think that that is important that everybody
[0:54:44] Voice 4: as much as we hear the positive to keep things as a group, as a majority, because certainly some
[0:54:51] Voice 4: didn't pass by a large margin, but we're focused on trying to reduce the budget to something we
[0:54:57] Voice 4: can actually send out to the public. So that, otherwise, I'm going to a meeting tonight to
[0:55:05] Voice 4: talk about housing again and how to make it affordable. And that's something that's always
[0:55:11] Voice 4: always a challenge um but otherwise it's been a quiet quiet February so far but March is going
[0:55:18] Voice 4: to be jam-packed in terms of trust counsel and decisions that are going to have to be made
[0:55:23] Voice 4: thank
[0:55:27] Voice 8: you for that trustee mod thank
[0:55:30] Trustee Maude: you um yeah uh I'll just sort of segue on to that the
[0:55:36] Trustee Maude: the budget's probably the most complicated and most difficult one I think um since I've been
[0:55:43] Trustee Maude: and following Highlands Trust.
[0:55:46] Trustee Maude: It's primarily because the external influences
[0:55:48] Trustee Maude: on the budget process this year.
[0:55:51] Trustee Maude: We saw an increase in staff costs through the BCGU agreement
[0:55:57] Trustee Maude: with the province, which we had no control over.
[0:56:01] Trustee Maude: We've also seen some substantial losses
[0:56:05] Trustee Maude: and revenue streams from senior government.
[0:56:09] Trustee Maude: So those two, I think the figure was 7.5% of the budget.
[0:56:14] Trustee Maude: I think that was the number that was given to us is basically based on those
[0:56:19] Trustee Maude: external influences. And then of course we have those normal things.
[0:56:23] Trustee Maude: Everything costs a little bit more, a little bit more,
[0:56:25] Trustee Maude: a little bit more every year. So that's a couple more percentages.
[0:56:30] Trustee Maude: And, you know,
[0:56:31] Trustee Maude: we do want to do bad things better and it's hard to do things better when you
[0:56:35] Trustee Maude: don't spend money. And so we're, we're, we're, we're at.
[0:56:40] Trustee Maude: at um and i think people are going to be very uncomfortable with the budget where we've landed
[0:56:44] Trustee Maude: now and i think the march meeting will be very complicated um because um i think we'll all recall
[0:56:52] Trustee Maude: back of four or so years ago when we we got to march and there was a whole alternate budget
[0:56:58] Trustee Maude: presented um which kind of put everybody on their ear and i certainly not hoping that happens
[0:57:05] Trustee Maude: but i i don't think it's going to be five minute discussion at the trust council i think it's going
[0:57:10] Trustee Maude: going to be long it's going to be deep um i think that there will be um trustees looking for
[0:57:15] Trustee Maude: additional cuts when and you know when you've gone through the community the whole process
[0:57:20] Trustee Maude: you know you expect things to sort of be ratified but i i kind of suspicious it won't be this time
[0:57:26] Trustee Maude: so i think we're going to spend a lot of time on it um which is not a bad thing because you know
[0:57:31] Trustee Maude: we need to consider things wholly and make sure that we do the right things for the organization
[0:57:36] Trustee Maude: And for the taxpayers that we represent, as well as the province that we represent, we're a little bit unique in the government's model.
[0:57:48] Trustee Maude: We take our marching orders from many different places, including the minister.
[0:57:55] Trustee Maude: We get told what we have to do in some quadrants, and sometimes what we have to do costs money.
[0:58:02] Trustee Maude: So, yeah, it's going to be difficult.
[0:58:04] Trustee Maude: um otherwise uh it's it has as trustee dodge said it's been a relatively quiet um month on on maine
[0:58:14] Trustee Maude: uh i think the the only thing is you know we've been getting um hit a little bit um
[0:58:20] Trustee Maude: with file enforcement issues um which is nothing to do um really with um us as trustees or the
[0:58:31] Trustee Maude: the staff you know is that these things take time um and there's a couple of um fairly high
[0:58:40] Trustee Maude: profile violent enforcement actions that are taking place right now um that have people in
[0:58:46] Trustee Maude: the community concerned and and maybe not going as quickly as one might hope um which we as being
[0:58:54] Trustee Maude: the face of violence trust we tend to get the people needling us on the ferry and such going
[0:59:00] Trustee Maude: what the heck's going on there
[0:59:02] Trustee Maude: and
[0:59:04] Trustee Maude: try to explain the best that I can
[0:59:06] Trustee Maude: that the trustees do not have
[0:59:08] Trustee Maude: direct involvement in bio-enforcement
[0:59:11] Trustee Maude: try to communicate
[0:59:12] Trustee Maude: what I can
[0:59:15] Trustee Maude: but unfortunately because of that
[0:59:16] Trustee Maude: people tend to go away unsatisfied
[0:59:18] Trustee Maude: because they think
[0:59:20] Trustee Maude: that we as trustees are the gods
[0:59:22] Trustee Maude: of the island and we can make everything happen
[0:59:24] Trustee Maude: and we can make it happen now
[0:59:26] Trustee Maude: and that's not the way it works
[0:59:29] Trustee Maude: so
[0:59:29] Trustee Maude: So, but, you know, honestly, that's what we signed up for.
[0:59:34] Trustee Maude: We're representatives of the trust.
[0:59:36] Trustee Maude: Sometimes we get those hard questions and those hard conversations,
[0:59:40] Trustee Maude: and we can only do what we can do.
[0:59:42] Trustee Maude: But this month has been particularly a little bit tough that way.
[0:59:46] Trustee Maude: So we just keep our chins up and do the very best we can
[0:59:50] Trustee Maude: and try and keep the people of Main Island satisfied and content
[0:59:55] Trustee Maude: because when they're not, it's not fun.
[0:59:58] Trustee Maude: So that'll do it for me.
[0:59:59] Trustee Maude: Thanks.
[1:00:00] Trustee Maude: you thanks
[1:00:00] Voice 8: um do you feel and i'm sorry that you're getting the tough questions when you can't
[1:00:07] Voice 8: really answer them um are there any speaking notes needed for any particularly tricky cases
[1:00:14] Voice 8: um you know i think you could just connect with uh manager dingman and ask for what you can share
[1:00:24] Voice 8: with community because some of these are confidential or they're proceeding through
[1:00:27] Voice 8: uh through the courts and so there's some things that we can divulge uh and share but that's like
[1:00:35] Voice 8: you said trustee mod it's um it's not our place as trustees but we need to help the community
[1:00:41] Voice 8: navigate the process and then some of their questions so if we need notes we can we can ask
[1:00:50] Voice 8: well i
[1:00:51] Trustee Maude: think from from my end and i would certainly um assume that trustee dodson's
[1:00:56] Trustee Maude: the same boat as you know i i think we're pretty comfortable with the process it's what it is is
[1:01:01] Trustee Maude: members of the public who don't understand the process um so they they have this expectation
[1:01:07] Trustee Maude: that being the representatives of violence trust that you know is that if they want something to
[1:01:12] Trustee Maude: happen that we can make it happen right now
[1:01:14] Voice 9: and
[1:01:15] Trustee Maude: the reason something isn't happening is because
[1:01:16] Trustee Maude: we're not making it happen right now and so it's just it's explaining that and you know so
[1:01:22] Trustee Maude: So definitely have long, respectful conversations with people and try to explain it.
[1:01:28] Trustee Maude: Some people do not go away satisfied.
[1:01:30] Trustee Maude: Most do.
[1:01:33] Trustee Maude: But the trust is complicated.
[1:01:36] Trustee Maude: And, you know, it's that if somebody lives in Langley,
[1:01:40] Trustee Maude: bio-enforcement is handled totally different than what it would be, say, within Islands Trust.
[1:01:45] Trustee Maude: And so some people have got previous history with other government organizations
[1:01:50] Trustee Maude: conversations um and they've seen action and they've seen things happen um but trying to
[1:01:55] Trustee Maude: explain that the trust process um and the fact that we are not directly involved in
[1:02:00] Trustee Maude: bylaw enforcement some people kind of just struggle with that um but but i think that you
[1:02:06] Trustee Maude: know when you have the polite and respectful conversations people walk away informed um as
[1:02:12] Trustee Maude: i say they may not be satisfied with the answer but at least they know that we're doing our very
[1:02:15] Trustee Maude: best
[1:02:15] Voice 9: so
[1:02:16] Trustee Maude: i think
[1:02:17] Trustee Maude: i think we're okay for information but um it's just sometimes you know it just gets
[1:02:22] Trustee Maude: a little frustrating that things just don't happen at the lightning speed that people expect it will
[1:02:28] Voice 8: exactly it is frustrating to not see action so i do hear that okay any further
[1:02:37] Trustee Maude: just repeat that
[1:02:39] Trustee Maude: this has nothing to do with staff is that when we get into legal
[1:02:41] Trustee Maude: stuff is that we get bound up a
[1:02:43] Trustee Maude: little bit with the lawyers um who have to prioritize things but then when it gets to the
[1:02:48] Trustee Maude: court of course
[1:02:49] Trustee Maude: that's totally out of our hands yeah so is is that we there's nothing we can do
[1:02:54] Trustee Maude: to throw anything to to make it go faster it's just the process no
[1:02:58] Voice 8: that's true okay well thank
[1:03:01] Voice 8: you for that and so yeah we do not have an electoral director's report or an honest trust
[1:03:08] Voice 8: conservancy report although we do meet we don't have just we lost our communications specialist
[1:03:16] Voice 8: almost a year ago and it's just been too much for um staff to produce these reports but we do get
[1:03:24] Voice 8: a quarterly report on um the uh the trust council agenda so to be coming to you so i think that
[1:03:33] Voice 8: That brings us to our upcoming meeting.
[1:03:38] Voice 8: Do we need to consider whether it's electronic or in-person stuff?
[1:03:43] Voice 8: Do you know what sort of the volume of work?
[1:03:45] Voice 8: Not that I mind.
[1:03:46] Voice 8: I would love to come to Maine.
[1:03:48] Voice 8: But if it's as short as today's meeting was, one hour is not.
[1:03:55] Voice 8: Should we keep the April 27th, 2026 meeting at the Agricultural Hall?
[1:04:00] Voice 8: and wasn't there some consideration that the hall was not available or is that for the may meeting
[1:04:06] Voice 8: i
[1:04:07] Voice 4: think i think it's the april meeting that we're going to have to meet at the church house
[1:04:13] Voice 4: um and i have no idea what would this is almost two months away i have no idea what will be on
[1:04:19] Voice 4: the agenda so yeah okay difficult to know but it will be summertime so it'd be very pleasant
[1:04:28] Voice 8: looking for that meeting hall booking right yeah
[1:04:33] Voice 4: yeah i think i think it's the uh it's in our emails
[1:04:37] Voice 4: so
[1:04:37] Voice 8: we'll need to know oh i see stuff uh lisa millard has her hand up please go ahead thank
[1:04:44] Voice 6: you charlie at the meeting venue um is in person it was changed from the agricultural hall because
[1:04:50] Voice 6: it's not available. And the LTC has received a revised invite for the church location.
[1:05:02] Voice 8: That's great. Thank you, Lisa. So for members of the public, the next meeting will be April 27
[1:05:08] Voice 8: at 1pm, not 1.30. We're shifting it a little bit earlier. And it'll be the St. Mary Magdalene
[1:05:15] Voice 8: Church at 360 Georgina Point Road. So we'll get that revised schedule out to the public.
[1:05:25] Voice 8: and so now we can open it for town hall again we have one attendee if you'd like to raise your hand
[1:05:33] Voice 8: and address the local trust committee pretty sure you know the drill ms foot if you're willing
[1:05:40] Voice 8: wanting to sorry i shouldn't have called you out if not no okay
[1:05:49] Voice 4: i just wanted to to ask for our
[1:05:54] Voice 4: april 27th meeting if at a certain point in time we realize that we do not have a heavy agenda
[1:06:01] Voice 4: i think it's appropriate i don't know what that time bruce might have a better idea but i think
[1:06:06] Voice 4: that we should be open to the idea that somehow we have a timeline it's because we have eight
[1:06:13] Voice 4: weeks to go that we would make that a zoom meeting so let's leave that open so that yeah
[1:06:19] Voice 7: yeah
[1:06:20] Voice 4: that's a positive because as much as you know it's great to meet in person but
[1:06:24] Voice 4: the hours that you spend it's it's it's great for us for dave and i but you know it's late and we
[1:06:32] Voice 4: don't need to come but it is a long day if there's not very much on the agenda so so do keep that in
[1:06:37] Voice 4: mind and and by the time we're finished in march we're going to be exhausted
[1:06:41] Voice 4: it anyways might
[1:06:44] Voice 8: need a little detour break to maine you might you might i love coming to your
[1:06:49] Voice 8: island because it's so peaceful for sure um but yes we can we can
[1:06:55] Voice 8: keep checking it maybe uh a
[1:06:57] Voice 8: month ahead that'll be enough yeah i
[1:06:59] Voice 4: i mean hopefully we'll have those variants well even
[1:07:02] Voice 4: those variances might be ready by april but that's still not a big a big issue okay thank you that's
[1:07:09] Voice 4: great
[1:07:09] Voice 8: yeah okay any further comments before we close our meeting i think we've come to the end
[1:07:15] Voice 8: of our business today rather yeah
[1:07:19] Voice 4: shortest shortest meeting
[1:07:20] Voice 8: on record
[1:07:21] Voice 4: almost almost i'm pretty sure
[1:07:23] Voice 8: all right well thanks well thanks everyone to
[1:07:29] Voice 8: see you and i'll see you in march
[1:07:30] Voice 8: all for adjournment bye
[1:07:33] Voice 4: all bye
[1:07:35] Voice 8: now we are adjourned
[1:07:37] Voice 4: thanks
[1:07:41] Voice 8: carly thanks everyone thanks bruce
[1:07:44] Voice 6: charlotte can you stand by for a second
[1:07:47] Voice 6: question for you for sure
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