North Pender Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, July 10, 2026

[0:00:00] Voice 3: live streaming, so away we go. Good morning, everybody. Thank you for joining us today for

[0:00:04] Voice 3: this regular meeting of the North Pender Island Local Trust Committee. I want to begin the meeting

[0:00:09] Voice 3: by acknowledging that we're fortunate to be able to gather today in locations across the territory

[0:00:13] Voice 3: the Coast Salish people. I'm David Maude, elected on Main Island and chair of the North Pender Island

[0:00:18] Voice 3: Local Trust Committee. I'm joined today by your two North Pender Island trustees, Aaron Campbell

[0:00:24] Voice 3: and Deb Morrison. Together we make up the North Pender Local Trust Committee.

[0:00:30] Voice 3: This meeting is being live streamed and recorded

[0:00:31] Voice 3: for those who are unable to attend in person today.

[0:00:33] Voice 3: The recording will be posted

[0:00:35] Voice 3: on the Alamance Trust website for future reading.

[0:00:36] Voice 3: We have some staff members joining us today.

[0:00:39] Voice 3: We have our planner, Brad Smith.

[0:00:43] Voice 3: We have backing him up in wonderful ways,

[0:00:47] Voice 3: our other planner, Bruce Belcher.

[0:00:50] Voice 3: We have Lisa Millard, who is our minute taker

[0:00:53] Voice 3: and host of the meeting.

[0:00:55] Voice 3: We have Dee Dee McLean, who is our backup host who started blurting the ropes here.

[0:01:03] Voice 3: So welcome, Dee Dee, to North Bender and to the Islands Trust world.

[0:01:08] Voice 3: And I think that's it for staff.

[0:01:11] Voice 3: Just a couple of things.

[0:01:14] Voice 3: Just to let you know, this meeting is an official forum for your local trust to make decisions about land use, planning matters, and discovery of a business.

[0:01:20] Voice 3: I want to add this is a place of employment.

[0:01:21] Voice 3: our staff have the right to a safe and respectful workplace.

[0:01:26] Voice 3: So before us, trustees, we have an agenda.

[0:01:29] Voice 3: Any additions or anything?

[0:01:33] Voice 3: So by general consent,

[0:01:35] Voice 3: we can adopt the agenda as circulated

[0:01:38] Voice 3: and we'll hop right into the trustee report.

[0:01:41] Voice 3: Who wants to be the first reporting trustee?

[0:01:45] Voice 2: Go ahead, Aaron.

[0:01:47] Voice 2: I don't know.

[0:01:49] Voice 6: It's a generally fairly quiet little month.

[0:01:55] Voice 6: that it seems like it was a short felt like a short turnaround from the last meeting that we

[0:02:00] Voice 6: had and um i think folks have settled into graduation plans and and uh and um so it's

[0:02:09] Voice 6: just been been a few a few conversations about uh the the applications that we've got today

[0:02:16] Voice 6: generally all pretty positive and um uh chatting with folks about that but it's uh yeah it's been a

[0:02:25] Voice 6: a relatively not to jinx anything but uh in a calm little time hopefully summer will be uh

[0:02:31] Voice 6: we'll just stay on course indeed yeah i would

[0:02:38] Voice 2: i would echo that it does feel like it's been a very

[0:02:42] Voice 2: uh chill sort of just things percolating along which you know thinking back to you know almost

[0:02:48] Voice 2: eight years ago i was like this is so much nicer than like having waste management like fights in

[0:02:54] Voice 2: You know, like, so really grateful for all the work that, you know, everyone's done over the past, you know, eight years that I've been involved with the trust because it feels like things are a lot more just orderly and like mellow, you know, and of course we always have challenges in the community but I think we're finding better ways to work through them collectively so that's great.

[0:03:15] Voice 2: Okay,

[0:03:18] Voice 3: thank you. From my end, yeah, I'll echo that it has been a relatively peaceful and prosperous summer. I guess I did report last time that the trust policy statement won't get concluded this time. We're still doing some housekeeping stuff.

[0:03:37] Voice 3: stuff. There's a Committee of the Whole meeting scheduled, I believe, is it next week or the week

[0:03:43] Voice 3: after, just to sort of deal with a couple of small details on that front. We had Trust Council in

[0:03:51] Voice 3: June, which was electronic, which was one of those things is that it should have been 26 trustees

[0:03:58] Voice 3: there all day, every day. Unfortunately, we didn't have that, but sometimes we even struggled to keep

[0:04:04] Voice 3: quorum so um i think that the executive committee will be looking into that and seeing if there's

[0:04:11] Voice 3: anything that we can do um i i think the the one thing i can point to is the new compensation

[0:04:18] Voice 3: um package that was rolled out includes that you know every day of trust council if you do not

[0:04:25] Voice 3: attend for the majority of the day um you are going to get docked pay and i think that will

[0:04:30] Voice 3: be a bit of an incentive um for people to attend a little bit more um other than that i think we're

[0:04:38] Voice 3: going to celebrate some sunshine and happiness and get out with the meeting um so um i don't

[0:04:45] Voice 3: see director brett with us um so next up is public decision period um if anybody wishes to address

[0:04:54] Voice 3: trust the local trust committee um if you're an applicant um when your application comes forward

[0:05:01] Voice 3: that will be the time for you to speak um however if you're a member of the public and you wish to

[0:05:07] Voice 3: speak to an application um and this is the time um to um raise any uh things any of the issues

[0:05:16] Voice 3: before us um otherwise um if any other issues people want to raise their hands we generally

[0:05:21] Voice 3: only give two to three minutes um and just ask that you put your hand up digitally um which in

[0:05:28] Voice 3: our world is the at the bottom of the of the taskbar you should see a raise hand emoji you

[0:05:34] Voice 3: put that raise your hand and we will promote you and get you to address the local trust committee

[0:05:41] Voice 3: and with all that i don't see any hands going up so i will assume that we can move forward

[0:05:50] Voice 3: work um so um we have on page three local trust committee minutes dated may 29th 26th for adoption

[0:05:59] Voice 3: did anybody catch anything with the minutes no no no once again um um at least it's been a

[0:06:10] Voice 3: wonderful job we do appreciate that so by general consent we can adopt those minutes

[0:06:14] Voice 3: um we have at page 12 uh section 26 resolution without meanings report for your information

[0:06:22] Voice 3: and at 10.3 on page 13 we have the advisory planning commissioning minutes dated may 27th

[0:06:30] Voice 3: 26th um once again very impressive work um you know it's it's amazing what comes out of this

[0:06:40] Voice 3: this committee um and and certainly appreciate uh planner smith supporting that committee um in in

[0:06:47] Voice 3: the off hours um it's uh it's really good work being done there um so any questions or anything

[0:06:54] Voice 3: arising from that otherwise we'll just receive those um all right so on page 17 we have your

[0:07:02] Voice 3: follow-up action list july uh july 2026. father smith anything to highlight there uh

[0:07:11] Voice 4: i just no

[0:07:12] Voice 4: not really unless you have any questions with respect to that chair mod

[0:07:15] Voice 3: trustees any questions

[0:07:19] Voice 3: already, so we'll move on

[0:07:21] Voice 3: at lightning speed here.

[0:07:24] Voice 4: Sorry, through the chair, just with respect to the work of the APC,

[0:07:27] Voice 4: staff did send them a

[0:07:30] Voice 4: letter this week with the new resolution

[0:07:33] Voice 4: asking that they look at further

[0:07:36] Voice 4: scoping of the Anglican Church lands

[0:07:41] Voice 4: and including

[0:07:42] Voice 4: review of housing agreements and recommendations

[0:07:45] Voice 4: around that. And I've pointed them to the Galliano Islands

[0:07:48] Voice 4: and housing agreements that were agreed to last term

[0:07:52] Voice 4: and I think have a lot of the same principles

[0:07:54] Voice 4: and rent structure pieces

[0:07:58] Voice 4: that would be helpful for them to look at.

[0:08:00] Voice 4: So they have that

[0:08:01] Voice 4: and they haven't scheduled another meeting yet,

[0:08:04] Voice 4: but I think I would see that

[0:08:05] Voice 4: as their last piece of work as you wind down your term.

[0:08:10] Voice 3: Thank you, Planner Smith.

[0:08:11] Voice 3: Much appreciated.

[0:08:13] Voice 4: They have been excellent, I will add as well,

[0:08:15] Voice 4: for the minutes.

[0:08:16] Voice 3: Yeah, I am most impressed with that group.

[0:08:20] Voice 4: Alrighty,

[0:08:23] Voice 3: so moving on, we have

[0:08:26] Voice 3: on page 19th

[0:08:30] Voice 3: application NP-ELDP

[0:08:34] Voice 3: 2026-0231 Kerfoot, and

[0:08:38] Voice 3: I believe, if I'm not mistaken,

[0:08:43] Voice 3: that's Planner Belcher.

[0:08:45] Voice 9: Yes, thank you.

[0:08:47] Voice 9: Morning, everybody. Yes, this is a new development permit application

[0:08:52] Voice 9: within the commercial and industrial form and character DPA

[0:08:55] Voice 9: for the construction of three new commercial vacation rental cottages

[0:09:00] Voice 9: as part of the Tides Cottages vacation rental business,

[0:09:05] Voice 9: which is located at 1329 McKinnon Road.

[0:09:09] Voice 9: The proposal is to construct two identical two-bedroom cottages

[0:09:13] Voice 9: and one one-bedroom cottage,

[0:09:16] Voice 9: along with a new parking lot for the new buildings.

[0:09:19] Voice 9: buildings. The new work will take place on the east side of the property and extend from

[0:09:24] Voice 9: the existing driveway, and one tree is proposed to be removed due to safety concerns related

[0:09:31] Voice 9: to the proximity to the new central two-bedroom cottage. And much of the southern part of

[0:09:39] Voice 9: the proposed construction site is also covered in thick bramble, which will be removed prior

[0:09:45] Voice 9: prior to construction.

[0:09:46] Voice 9: The area will be planted in accordance

[0:09:49] Voice 9: with the landscaping plan,

[0:09:51] Voice 9: which is attached to the draft permit,

[0:09:55] Voice 9: which involves some native planting along the property line

[0:09:58] Voice 9: as well as some limited potted plants

[0:10:03] Voice 9: around the proposed buildings.

[0:10:05] Voice 9: And this also includes a landscaping security of $2,500,

[0:10:10] Voice 9: which is included as part of the draft permit

[0:10:12] Voice 9: and will be required prior to the permit issuance.

[0:10:18] Voice 9: Staff consider that the proposal has

[0:10:20] Voice 9: been designed to minimize impacts on adjacent properties

[0:10:23] Voice 9: by maintaining much of the existing screening

[0:10:26] Voice 9: and the conditions within the draft permit

[0:10:29] Voice 9: ensure that the development meets the official community

[0:10:32] Voice 9: plan guidelines.

[0:10:35] Voice 9: So therefore, staff recommends that the North Bender Local

[0:10:38] Voice 9: Trust Committee approve issuance of development permit,

[0:10:42] Voice 9: permit PLDP-2026-0231. Thanks.

[0:10:48] Voice 3: Thank you, Planner Belcher. Trustees, any questions at all? I see

[0:10:55] Voice 3: the applicant is with us. So do you have any questions for the applicant or if the applicant

[0:11:00] Voice 3: wishes to make a statement at all?

[0:11:04] Voice 2: I'm happy to do whichever order you want, but I do have a

[0:11:07] Voice 3: question. Well, go ahead with your question. That'd be a good start.

[0:11:11] Voice 2: So I had a question

[0:11:13] Voice 2: related to water because I didn't see anything from our water study in terms of the information

[0:11:21] Voice 2: that was provided in the permit. And that confused me a little bit because I thought the purpose of

[0:11:27] Voice 2: the water study was to help provide information with each application about where the applicant

[0:11:32] Voice 2: sits in the context of water scarcity or needs in the island. This is more for the planner, I think.

[0:11:38] Voice 2: Uh,

[0:11:40] Voice 9: so there isn't any water study associated with a development permit for this

[0:11:46] Voice 9: property, given that they're zoned for the permitted, they're within their density.

[0:11:52] Voice 9: So I'm not sure if there's a separate thing you're referencing.

[0:11:58] Voice 2: No,

[0:11:58] Voice 9: we're referencing

[0:11:59] Voice 2: the water study that we did across the Ollapender,

[0:12:02] Voice 2: and just like how that information gets used when we see a development permit or when we see

[0:12:08] Voice 2: So maybe Brad, I don't know.

[0:12:11] Voice 2: Through

[0:12:11] Voice 4: the chair, Planner Belcher.

[0:12:14] Voice 4: So the development permit guidelines are largely around form and character.

[0:12:19] Voice 4: And so that's what the focus of the development permit is, is the design meeting the form and character that's intended for the island.

[0:12:31] Voice 4: And it doesn't include considerations around water.

[0:12:36] Voice 4: uh that said like spruce or like planner belcher said the the property is zoned for that

[0:12:44] Voice 4: uh and uh and as a commercial use they would need a commercial water license for that use so

[0:12:50] Voice 4: um um i think it's kind of a little bit out of scope of what the intent of the dps versus if it

[0:13:00] Voice 4: it was a riparian or an ecological dp um like they already have the right to have those cottages

[0:13:11] Voice 4: now they're just meeting this development permit requirement around form and character okay so

[0:13:19] Voice 2: maybe the question is slightly different when they go for the building permit for those cottages

[0:13:23] Voice 2: they'll have to show proof of water correct correct

[0:13:27] Voice 4: if they're having water in those they

[0:13:29] Voice 4: They would need to show proof of water, and as a commercial use,

[0:13:32] Voice 4: they would also need a commercial water license under the Provincial Water License Act

[0:13:39] Voice 4: or under the Provincial Water Act.

[0:13:42] Voice 4: So I would say that water will be well considered in other processes

[0:13:49] Voice 4: and that this permit is really around, is the forming character within the

[0:14:00] Voice 4: the intent of the guidelines okay anything

[0:14:03] Voice 4: else to advert i'm sure or planner belcher

[0:14:07] Voice 4: no that sounds that's that sounds right yeah so

[0:14:10] Voice 2: then maybe just the last sort of comment or

[0:14:12] Voice 2: question about that is like when we get a referral i assume we'll get a referral related to the

[0:14:17] Voice 2: building permit for this property i just know that water has been a community concern in this area

[0:14:22] Voice 2: and so it would be good if we replied with our water maps like to the thing and i don't know how

[0:14:31] Voice 2: to yes or if that's just a default thing that happens or whatever what

[0:14:37] Voice 4: i would say to that is

[0:14:39] Voice 4: it's not going to influence the building inspector's decision on whether they give

[0:14:45] Voice 4: of occupancy or not it's it's more does the pump does the does the well provide that water is what

[0:14:54] Voice 4: test they would be looking for and the and the and the same with like the but the province when

[0:15:01] Voice 4: issue when the province when issuing or amending a water license to consider this use they would

[0:15:07] Voice 4: certainly look at all the sustainability aspects and that's where uh perhaps those maps and we do

[0:15:14] Voice 4: share those maps when we receive water license referrals which we do receive i'm not sure in

[0:15:23] Voice 4: this case if they already have a water license in place for that volume which i assume they do

[0:15:27] Voice 4: and in that case it's been there's not a lot we could do anyways so

[0:15:33] Voice 3: i see mr kerfoot's got

[0:15:34] Voice 3: his hand up so maybe he can wait no

[0:15:36] Voice 4: that's that's helpful yeah i forgot mr kerfoot's here thanks

[0:15:43] Voice 3: so mr you're muted if you're hi there there

[0:15:48] Voice 3: we go i

[0:15:49] Voice 7: got you yeah

[0:15:50] Voice 5: i think i can i can speak on

[0:15:51] Voice 5: this um because obviously that is a question um and it's something that obviously we have

[0:15:56] Voice 5: considered in in great thought um so the conception on mckinnon road is there isn't water

[0:16:03] Voice 5: um but we have a lot we have historically we've run our resort for five years and never had an

[0:16:09] Voice 5: issue with water we also have a unique uh scenario here where we have a shallow well um that produces

[0:16:15] Voice 5: is a ton of water all year um so we're very lucky to have that on an aquifer um that benefits us

[0:16:22] Voice 5: greatly um going also going forward is we have redone all of our water systems already

[0:16:29] Voice 5: new filtration new everything um and massive storage capacity um we have currently added

[0:16:35] Voice 5: 5600 gallon tanks on every one of our systems and we are going to add more before the development

[0:16:40] Voice 5: development so we can pump up during the winter and a 56 gallon tank right now in our current

[0:16:45] Voice 5: lasts us about three weeks so you know we can sit on like i can sit on four of them and not even

[0:16:52] Voice 5: pump a drop of water up in august and september um which is our plan we were planning to sip on

[0:16:58] Voice 5: our wells in the down season just so we don't put pressure on our wells and our neighboring wells

[0:17:02] Voice 5: like we live next door i don't want to put pressure on my own well i need water in my house so um

[0:17:06] Voice 5: Um, so yeah, we have also rainwater catchment tanks going in on the new builds.

[0:17:11] Voice 5: Uh, that'll be for all the irrigation around the, the cottages.

[0:17:14] Voice 5: We may even plumb those into toilets.

[0:17:16] Voice 5: We're just not quite sure on that yet.

[0:17:18] Voice 5: Um, and yes, to the water license, we do have our water license, uh, for this site.

[0:17:23] Voice 5: Cause this site used to service up to 50 people.

[0:17:25] Voice 5: So, um, back

[0:17:26] Voice 5: way back in the day, um, and it had a restaurant next door.

[0:17:29] Voice 5: So, um, anyways, so yeah, we're, we're on it.

[0:17:33] Voice 5: Uh, we're not just blindly pulling water out of the ground.

[0:17:36] Voice 5: we are being strategic and making sure that we do this right to our neighbors and

[0:17:40] Voice 5: make sure we're sustainable in the process of doing this no

[0:17:44] Voice 2: that's great and i know that we

[0:17:45] Voice 2: talked about this when this the zoning work had gone through so thanks i just want to make sure

[0:17:50] Voice 2: we're asking those questions yeah

[0:17:51] Voice 5: no they're great questions because it is an issue but

[0:17:53] Voice 5: again i just want to clarify we're not just blindly pulling water out of the ground like

[0:17:57] Voice 5: we're we have a

[0:17:58] Voice 5: plan and we're very strategic on it because i'm strategic now on it because you

[0:18:02] Voice 5: just you got to be smart so yep

[0:18:04] Voice 2: thanks trustee

[0:18:06] Voice 3: campbell i

[0:18:10] Voice 6: just said what i was gonna gonna say i

[0:18:13] Voice 6: i um had an opportunity to talk to him and actually received a video of the water perking

[0:18:22] Voice 6: out of the well um so i know i know that we've had that discussion about water catchment and

[0:18:29] Voice 6: and what they're planning on doing for the gray water so i wasn't i wasn't sure who was going to

[0:18:33] Voice 6: get to sort of speak to that first but uh but yeah all

[0:18:40] Voice 3: right any other questions trustees

[0:18:44] Voice 3: somebody prepared to make the motion

[0:18:46] Voice 2: maybe maybe just one comment before we make the motion and

[0:18:48] Voice 2: then i'm happy to make the motion um i do really appreciate the care like with like i looked at the

[0:18:56] Voice 2: landscaping plan and things like that and i really appreciate the care to like

[0:19:00] Voice 2: you know ensure that there's the vegetative coverage and barriers because that's just so

[0:19:05] Voice 2: much more in character with what we're trying to do here on the island so yeah thank you for that

[0:19:11] Voice 2: um all right aaron do you have it in front of you i'm on a different page

[0:19:15] Voice 1: for some reason

[0:19:15] Voice 2: that

[0:19:15] Voice 6: the north pender island local trust committee approve issuance of development permit pldp 2026

[0:19:21] Voice 6: dash zero two three one second

[0:19:24] Voice 3: secondly any further discussion call the question all in favor

[0:19:28] Voice 3: that carries yeah

[0:19:32] Voice 2: and i just

[0:19:34] Voice 3: i i will thank the applicant and the planner um you know this this

[0:19:39] Voice 3: is a really well presented um report um and and the work done by the applicants very impressive

[0:19:46] Voice 3: in my mind so thank you all right so we'll move on to page 44 uh it's 14.2 in our agenda

[0:19:53] Voice 3: agenda, and that's N-P-P-L-R-Z-2026-0184, I don't know, I'm going to butcher this, I'm

[0:20:02] Voice 3: sure, EGIL, and so over to you, planners, yeah.

[0:20:09] Voice 4: Thank you, Chair.

[0:20:10] Voice 4: We do have Charlie as an attendee as well.

[0:20:12] Voice 4: Perhaps we could elevate him up.

[0:20:14] Voice 4: Yep, that's done.

[0:20:15] Voice 4: Thank you, Lisa.

[0:20:17] Voice 4: So I think it's EIGL, but I just call him Charlie.

[0:20:21] Hey, Charlie.

[0:20:22] Voice 4: But he can clarify that for all of us.

[0:20:24] Voice 8: Charlie is

[0:20:25] Voice 8: good thank you

[0:20:27] Voice 4: it's perfect yeah um hi Charlie um so thank you chair just let me

[0:20:32] Voice 4: jump back to my my agenda screen here so just walking through staff report here you have a

[0:20:38] Voice 4: rezoning application here a preliminary report from the Pender Island Golf Club Society seeking

[0:20:44] Voice 4: to uh rezone the property uh the primary purpose is to allow development on site one which is

[0:20:51] Voice 4: as indicated on page 48 of your agenda package

[0:20:59] Voice 4: to permit the development of a new maintenance area,

[0:21:06] Voice 4: maintenance building and potentially one or two buildings

[0:21:10] Voice 4: with the maintenance and storage capacity

[0:21:14] Voice 4: in the corner of the lot that is currently zoned rural

[0:21:17] Voice 4: and would not currently permit that development as a golf course use.

[0:21:24] Voice 4: So that's the primary driver of why they're coming to the local trust committee for rezoning.

[0:21:30] Voice 4: But as described on page 47 of your staff report,

[0:21:37] Voice 4: there are a number of other issues with the current existing zoning on the property.

[0:21:43] Voice 4: The property is two parcels as shown in figure three there

[0:21:49] Voice 4: and also figure two and one above.

[0:21:56] Voice 4: And both those properties are split zoned.

[0:21:59] Voice 4: One of them is zoned Ag B, which is a site specific zoning,

[0:22:03] Voice 4: which permits the golf course on a portion of a lot F.

[0:22:11] Voice 4: As you can see in figure three, there's also a portion over to the left, which is zoned rural.

[0:22:21] Voice 4: There's also a historic issue with the zoning where a portion of lot A, and it's hard to get all this clear, but a portion of lot A is zoned.

[0:22:31] Voice 4: sorry, a portion of lot F is zoned egg right now

[0:22:36] Voice 4: in that when a previous rezoning was done,

[0:22:40] Voice 4: a map error created that.

[0:22:43] Voice 4: So in summary, they're seeking to replace

[0:22:48] Voice 4: the maintenance shed with a new one in site one,

[0:22:53] Voice 4: seeking a higher maximum height for that,

[0:22:57] Voice 4: seeking to reconcile the many accessory buildings

[0:23:01] Voice 4: on the current lot as well as reconcile some of the buildings

[0:23:07] Voice 4: are in setbacks.

[0:23:07] Voice 4: So removing the internal setbacks

[0:23:10] Voice 4: for those golf course buildings.

[0:23:12] Voice 4: And at this point, I would say there is some work

[0:23:17] Voice 4: to still be done to clarify their plans.

[0:23:21] Voice 4: But at this preliminary stage,

[0:23:25] Voice 4: staff are recommending that the LTC move forward

[0:23:32] Voice 4: with issuing or drafting a bylaw

[0:23:35] Voice 4: and issuing a terms of reference

[0:23:37] Voice 4: so that we can proceed to work with the applicant

[0:23:40] Voice 4: to further hone their application

[0:23:43] Voice 4: and clarify some of the questions that remain.

[0:23:47] Voice 4: With that, I think I will put it back to the LTC

[0:23:49] Voice 4: for any questions.

[0:23:51] Voice 4: And we also have Charlie here to respond.

[0:23:54] Voice 4: And there's a lot there.

[0:23:56] Voice 4: So I think it's easier if I just address any questions

[0:24:00] Voice 4: questions you have rather than walk through all of the work that Charlie and his group has done,

[0:24:05] Voice 4: which has been really extensive. They've done a lot of work to get to this point, so kudos to them

[0:24:11] Voice 4: and their largely volunteer group for bringing so much good information forward at the start.

[0:24:18] Voice 4: All right, back to you, Chair.

[0:24:20] Voice 3: Thank you, Planner Smith. Indeed, it was an interesting historic

[0:24:23] Voice 3: historic read there and good on you and good on the applicant for trying to sort of get everything

[0:24:31] Voice 3: sort of tidied up with a nice package to bring everything in conformity. It's time well spent.

[0:24:39] Voice 3: So trustees, questions?

[0:24:46] Voice 2: Yeah, go for it, Aaron.

[0:24:47] Voice 6: I had a, my only real question was, when I looked at the zoning, how do I get to build

[0:24:56] Voice 6: my own golf course on my farm was what i was what i was thinking at the beginning

[0:25:01] Voice 6: i had to message brad and ask him how how that worked and just the predating um

[0:25:10] Voice 6: of even the agricultural land commission for the for the uh for the golf course so it looks like

[0:25:17] Voice 6: i'm out of luck i'm building my own uh driving range or anything like that but um mini golf

[0:25:24] Voice 6: through

[0:25:24] Voice 4: the through the tow truck and the setback would be cool though yeah yeah

[0:25:28] Voice 6: but

[0:25:29] Voice 4: so don't put that in the minute

[0:25:33] Voice 6: yeah so we um um i think i think i'm i was a little bit

[0:25:40] Voice 6: confused i went by the golf course um you can see the one spot um that is sort of

[0:25:47] Voice 6: where the sea cannon stuff is and and having golfed at the golf course knowing um uh

[0:25:54] Voice 6: uh that where that was already i'm not wasn't totally sure where i think that was called the

[0:26:00] Voice 6: north site and where exactly the south site ended up being um but generally like i think overall

[0:26:10] Voice 6: um in in what this application is asking for is to draft a draft um i'm gonna forget what the term

[0:26:21] Voice 6: Terms of reference for moving

[0:26:25] Voice 6: forward that will bring forward more information.

[0:26:28] Voice 6: And so I would be supportive of that to see it sort of take its next steps and give a little bit more permanency to their maintenance department in a better location, maybe.

[0:26:41] Voice 6: and

[0:26:43] Voice 4: it uh it's yeah it can help to clean up a whole bunch of issues uh both with zoning and with

[0:26:51] Voice 4: uh you know mistakes that seemingly happened on our end with that weird egg bee and then that

[0:26:58] Voice 4: other portion egg so yeah i think it would be uh a new egg bee description you'd keep that

[0:27:07] Voice 4: description you'd keep the egg bee but you'd completely rework the description of what the

[0:27:11] Voice 4: zone can be so that you can capture all of the buildings that are actually there versus what's

[0:27:17] Voice 4: in the zoning now uh look at the outhouses i'm not sure about the legality of those they might

[0:27:23] Voice 4: not find a different solution around that so you know there's always other benefits to these

[0:27:29] Voice 4: rezoning proposals of course as a non-profit society that provides a lot of community benefits

[0:27:34] Voice 4: so i'd also pass it over perhaps to charlie he may have anything he wants to speak to

[0:27:39] Voice 4: to uh in terms of uh uh just back to your north and your south site there there's really only

[0:27:46] Voice 4: one development site that is the site one which is where you where you're approaching on the left

[0:27:51] Voice 4: coming from the ferry uh and it's up on yeah they've cleared a couple trees that were on their

[0:27:57] Voice 4: way out anyways uh that area uh they would need to have a professional biologist assess they've

[0:28:04] Voice 4: had a seismic assessment of the steep slope there already that just described your package and i

[0:28:09] Voice 4: further sent it to you last week so yeah um yeah but it would be some further clarifying kind of

[0:28:15] Voice 4: exactly where those buildings are located what's the what's the uh how what's the floor of those

[0:28:22] Voice 4: buildings are they is there one or two buildings or three and where they're sited still all needs

[0:28:28] Voice 4: needs to be kind of worked through, yeah.

[0:28:33] Voice 4: And a draft bylaw gives a framework

[0:28:36] Voice 4: for further communication and discussion

[0:28:39] Voice 4: with the community and stakeholders, so yeah.

[0:28:44] Voice 2: Charlie, did you want to add anything?

[0:28:47] Voice 8: A couple of comments.

[0:28:48] Voice 8: One is just first of all, apologies

[0:28:50] Voice 8: in terms of how this thing came together.

[0:28:53] Voice 8: Our need is for a new maintenance facility

[0:28:57] Voice 8: where we do maintenance on the machines.

[0:28:59] Voice 8: And we're also short on equipment storage.

[0:29:02] Voice 8: So the existing building is located really beside a watershed, a stream with ponds there.

[0:29:12] Voice 8: It's not a good location.

[0:29:14] Voice 8: So we're looking at a place which is going to be less environmentally sensitive.

[0:29:19] Voice 8: And initially our plans were for one building.

[0:29:22] Voice 8: The problem with it is that the standards we're looking for for maintenance, heated facilities, insulation, stuff like that, kind of drives what happened with the storage, the equipment storage, which is a higher standard than we would like.

[0:29:40] Voice 8: Now, going through the requirements for two buildings makes it

[0:29:45] Voice 7: more

[0:29:46] Voice 8: complex, but it might

[0:29:48] Voice 8: be that we'll save money by having two buildings as opposed to one.

[0:29:52] Voice 8: So that is something that we'll strive to clarify in terms of what we're trying to do.

[0:29:57] Voice 8: so that's

[0:30:00] Voice 8: that's that's one point i wanted to make the other is it is complex and what i would say is if you're

[0:30:06] Voice 8: on the island and you'd like to take a walk around sort of understand kind of what we're trying to do

[0:30:10] Voice 8: uh please feel free to get in contact with us and we'd be pleased to kind of do a walk around

[0:30:20] Voice 2: yeah i'm super familiar with that area um and and really appreciate the effort you guys are

[0:30:27] Voice 2: going through when i read through this i was like wow this is like a history lesson of like hodge

[0:30:32] Voice 2: hodgepodge pays and happens so i really appreciate a

[0:30:35] Voice 8: lot of hours going through archives trying to

[0:30:37] Voice 8: oh

[0:30:38] Voice 2: my gosh right and the planners too like just to pull this together and like get everything

[0:30:43] Voice 2: smoothed out i think it all you know it feels like these things are you know not so critical

[0:30:49] Voice 2: sometimes but they have implications if they're not cleaned up occasionally and so it's really

[0:30:55] Voice 2: great that you're doing this um so yeah i'm totally in support of this and especially at

[0:31:00] Voice 2: this stage like whatever is needed to go forward um just a curiosity nothing to do with this

[0:31:06] Voice 2: application but i am super curious if you have any thoughts around how you might um you know

[0:31:15] Voice 2: work with the disc golf community because i know that they have worked with you before and like

[0:31:20] Voice 2: that might be a good coalition building move so i don't think you need it in this case frankly

[0:31:25] Voice 2: but it's just a curiosity you

[0:31:29] Voice 8: know the fact is that it's a fairly good size piece of recreational

[0:31:34] Voice 8: property and the disc golf people have come to us the problem that we face is trying to do things

[0:31:39] Voice 8: together particularly in a situation where what they pay for the use is substantially less than

[0:31:46] Voice 8: what our memberships pays and so that that sort of creates a real conflict now i know other golf

[0:31:52] Voice 8: course courses have gone ahead and they've done that but it is an important issue for us yeah and

[0:31:58] Voice 8: at this point we're just we're not ready to go there we do allow them to have tournaments um so

[0:32:04] Voice 8: so that does happen um but but coexisting together it's we're not there okay yeah i

[0:32:12] Voice 2: only know of a

[0:32:13] Voice 2: couple examples where the coexisting move has happened so i know it's challenging so but yeah

[0:32:18] Voice 2: Yeah, it is a great piece of property.

[0:32:22] Voice 2: All right, I'm good to go ahead

[0:32:24] Voice 2: and put the motion on the table, if we're good.

[0:32:29] Voice 2: Okay, that the North Pender Island Local Trust Committee

[0:32:31] Voice 2: direct staff to proceed with application PLRZ-20260184-IGLE

[0:32:38] Voice 2: and to prepare draft amending bylaws.

[0:32:42] Voice 3: Seconded, Trustee Campbell?

[0:32:44] Voice 3: Yep.

[0:32:45] Voice 3: Seconded, any further discussion?

[0:32:47] Voice 2: Nope.

[0:32:47] Voice 3: If not, call the question, all in favor?

[0:32:49] Voice 3: and that carries thank you very much

[0:32:53] Voice 2: thanks for your work charlie and

[0:32:55] Voice 8: thank you all of you for

[0:32:57] Voice 8: supporting this and uh look forward to working through this with you next

[0:33:02] Voice 4: step for me charlie

[0:33:03] Voice 4: will be to issue a terms of reference and then we can just continue to uh work with you to bring

[0:33:10] Voice 4: those uh next pieces of information forward and to help you further refine what you're planning

[0:33:16] Voice 4: at site one very

[0:33:18] Voice 8: good thank you thanks everyone

[0:33:20] Voice 4: bye now all right

[0:33:24] Voice 3: zoom and

[0:33:25] Voice 3: right along we're at page 85 and 86 active projects and future projects any

[0:33:33] Voice 3: questions from the planner or is the planner have anything for us

[0:33:36] Voice 4: just a

[0:33:38] Voice 4: couple updates the Raptors DPA is with the deputy minister's office so it's

[0:33:45] Voice 4: moving up the change i think we'll have something definitely by the end of term for that maybe even

[0:33:50] Voice 4: by uh your september 4th meeting potentially and your housing bylaws are out for a referral now so

[0:33:58] Voice 4: that's another nice milestone to reach and uh see where we're at in september with perhaps bringing

[0:34:04] Voice 4: them back to at least get them the first reading and then i think staff would recommend leaving

[0:34:09] Voice 4: them there as you exit your term and the next trustees can pick them up at first reading

[0:34:14] Voice 4: hopefully carry on with that work if they see value in that as a project

[0:34:18] Voice 4: I know Trustee Campbell's running again so I think he would probably see value in

[0:34:23] Voice 4: finishing up that work

[0:34:24] Voice 4: I think getting it to first reading at least signals

[0:34:31] Voice 4: that they're well established draft bylaws

[0:34:35] Voice 4: and that they've completed referrals and that if the next

[0:34:38] Voice 4: trustees wanted to they could pick that work up

[0:34:42] Voice 4: up pretty and have that project finished up pretty quickly as a as a first mile or first

[0:34:47] Voice 4: kind of a quick win for them with a lot of good stuff in there and not a lot of controversy with

[0:34:54] Voice 4: the removal of all the flexible zoning you know more focused on the worker housing and

[0:35:00] Voice 4: and uh and affordable housing so we'll leave that there all

[0:35:08] Voice 2: right no that sounds good i mean

[0:35:10] Voice 2: i think it's kind of more up to you aaron like where you want to go with any of that i'm not

[0:35:15] Voice 2: running again because my work conflicts are too difficult to manage um so yeah it's up to you i

[0:35:22] Voice 2: do think it would be great to finish off the housing project just to tie it up yep

[0:35:27] Voice 6: yeah yeah

[0:35:28] Voice 6: i think if we can get it to the to first reading it sort of then it will sort of start a new term

[0:35:36] Voice 6: with public

[0:35:37] Voice 6: consultation and and uh so yeah if we can get to that point i think that's great

[0:35:43] Voice 6: and

[0:35:43] Voice 4: and your turn your your um your apc is till the end of march so you can you can carry on with

[0:35:50] Voice 4: them in the new term to kind of help you through that consultation period and you know ideally by

[0:35:55] Voice 4: the end of you know this fiscal kind of thing or where are we at yeah this fiscal um you could be

[0:36:04] Voice 4: wrapped up and then thinking about new projects perfect

[0:36:09] Voice 2: um i'll just put my two cents in that i

[0:36:12] Voice 2: would love to see some kind of forest protection model like galliano as a you know given what's

[0:36:18] Voice 2: happened on schooner it'd be amazing to try and see something and given that i was kind of waiting

[0:36:23] Voice 2: i didn't want to instigate that at all because i was waiting to see if it would stick like through

[0:36:28] Voice 1: the

[0:36:28] Voice 2: legal issues but given the reports that we've had on the galliano one i would love to see

[0:36:33] Voice 2: something related to you know a homegrown version of what what the forestry ballet is i thought it

[0:36:40] Voice 2: was very reasonable and what they did there but like a version that suits pender all right is

[0:36:49] Voice 3: that it for actual future projects okay so page 88 we have applications reports any questions on

[0:37:02] Voice 3: those can

[0:37:08] Voice 4: just add through the chair um uh for braden's application he's working on his

[0:37:14] Voice 4: engineering report we met with say out and cow or we met with say out on both uh braden and uh

[0:37:22] Voice 4: aaron grimmer's lots and had good good site visits with the sale first nation and still

[0:37:27] Voice 4: working through referrals uh planning to bring uh referral information referral uh information back

[0:37:34] Voice 4: for Braden's for sure in September,

[0:37:37] Voice 4: summarizing all the work that we've been doing

[0:37:40] Voice 4: to kind of address some of those questions

[0:37:42] Voice 4: and back and forth with nations

[0:37:45] Voice 4: and the Islands Trust Conservancy in particular.

[0:37:49] Voice 4: And then with Aaron Grimmers,

[0:37:52] Voice 4: we have issued him a renewal notice

[0:37:55] Voice 4: for his temporary use permit.

[0:37:58] Voice 4: And so the onus is then again back on him,

[0:38:01] Voice 4: His current permit expires in July, so ideally he'd submit that application and have the LTC issue a new permit.

[0:38:11] Voice 4: He still hasn't submitted an engineering monitoring report, which is two years overdue, which is pretty significant at this point,

[0:38:21] Voice 4: especially when we're talking about potential groundwater pollution from his sediment pond.

[0:38:30] Voice 4: that's not been reviewed at all uh for over two years in arrears so i mean that raises some

[0:38:37] Voice 4: questions from a staff perspective as you know is that an appropriate use on the land base with that

[0:38:43] Voice 4: operator but you know that's something that uh you know the next ltc i think

[0:38:47] Voice 4: will will probably be considering uh you do have your standing resolution that

[0:38:53] Voice 4: uh says that you can you know defer enforcement like you've done on braden's and you

[0:38:59] Voice 4: you agreed to do with Sarah miles applications in this case,

[0:39:02] Voice 4: I don't think staff would recommend that you do that.

[0:39:04] Voice 4: I think instead that you insist that he have that to you in place to you

[0:39:09] Voice 4: P in place. And if it's, I think staff would even,

[0:39:12] Voice 4: if it's not in place on September 4th,

[0:39:15] Voice 4: then you start to look at enforcement to cease,

[0:39:19] Voice 4: cease that use for now, if he can't, you know, I,

[0:39:23] Voice 4: I've probably provided him eight reminders and, you know,

[0:39:27] Voice 4: he's had some hardships of course but yeah trustee campbell sorry could

[0:39:30] Voice 6: we is there could

[0:39:32] Voice 6: we request um uh at the like for the next meeting to sort of know what our options might be would

[0:39:41] Voice 6: that yeah

[0:39:43] Voice 4: i think so

[0:39:43] Voice 6: they need to talk so

[0:39:45] Voice 4: we've sent them a renewal yeah uh suggesting aaron you

[0:39:49] Voice 4: need to get this on the september 4th agenda which means you should apply by like mid to late july

[0:39:55] Voice 4: so let's see if that happens we've bumped him so many times it's like how many times do you keep

[0:39:59] Voice 4: bumping this guy before the onus is on him to to to get his business stuff sorted out

[0:40:06] Voice 4: um it's kind of where staff are at you're getting to the point with him so let's see what happens

[0:40:13] Voice 4: it's a tup renewal so it would be a renewal of the conditions i think staff would only support

[0:40:19] Voice 4: that renewal if he has his engineering report in with his renewal application the one that's

[0:40:26] Voice 4: you know and that engineering report says yup everything he's doing on site is good

[0:40:30] Voice 4: and there's no you know there's nothing's dropped off or there's no pollution you know

[0:40:36] Voice 7: without

[0:40:37] Voice 4: that in hand a renewal wouldn't make sense so let's see where he gets but i just

[0:40:46] Voice 4: want to flag this for you as probably something that the ltc needs to turn their mind to uh

[0:40:55] Voice 4: coming up yeah

[0:40:56] Voice 2: thanks for that brad because like and i agree with what you're saying because we

[0:41:01] Voice 2: were very clear like with that with him about that that the monitoring of that water is yeah

[0:41:08] Voice 2: you know and the community that was that a big ask by

[0:41:11] Voice 4: the community he's built a well but he

[0:41:14] Voice 4: hasn't done his checklist work which is like a pretty detailed and digging way back to when

[0:41:21] Voice 4: this was first being considered phil actually in his first staff report recommended that they don't

[0:41:27] Voice 4: approve the tup and then it evolved over time and he just got more and more engineering bolstered

[0:41:34] Voice 4: is kind of how it changes so but staff's original recommendation was that this isn't an appropriate

[0:41:40] Voice 4: land use uh in terms of you know trust council policy and preserve and protect mandate um so

[0:41:48] Voice 4: i think that there is some platform there for the elected officials and staff to say like yeah

[0:41:55] Voice 4: based on kind of how you've you know a tup is intended to kind of see is this an appropriate

[0:42:02] Voice 4: land use and in this case without him doing that critical monitoring in this case it's not like in

[0:42:09] Voice 4: my mind like covenant monitoring where you haven't had your rp bio come and look at the

[0:42:15] Voice 4: forest that hasn't changed at all like you know he's actually pumping water into a sediment pond

[0:42:20] Voice 4: right and

[0:42:21] Voice 1: he's not looking at that so it's

[0:42:23] Voice 4: a real issue yeah and the nation's couple of three

[0:42:27] Voice 4: nations have raised water quality concerns as well through the referrals so uh you know if

[0:42:33] Voice 1: If Aaron

[0:42:34] Voice 4: can't figure it out, you know, I think he's, in my mind,

[0:42:38] Voice 4: he's probably at risk of losing what he wants to do there

[0:42:44] Voice 3: or

[0:42:45] Voice 4: losing the support of staff, you know.

[0:42:47] Voice 4: Yeah.

[0:42:49] Voice 3: Maybe I could suggest that maybe we could extend an invitation

[0:42:52] Voice 3: to Mr. Grimmer to attend our next meeting

[0:42:55] Voice 3: so he can clarify to the LTC what

[0:42:58] Voice 4: his plans are.

[0:42:59] Voice 4: Yeah, I mean, he needs to submit his TPA.

[0:43:02] Voice 4: Like, that's where he's been sent a letter.

[0:43:04] Voice 4: He knows, I told him really clear on site, like, well, you know,

[0:43:08] Voice 4: when we met with say out and just in the, in the wrap up with him privately,

[0:43:12] Voice 4: just like you need to get going and especially on your monitoring report and

[0:43:17] Voice 4: then getting back formally issuing that letter. So like, you know,

[0:43:20] Voice 4: we've done our due diligence once again. So yeah,

[0:43:24] Voice 4: he should be at that meeting.

[0:43:26] Voice 4: And I think that the staff report would be around TUP renewal,

[0:43:29] Voice 4: but it would also summarize where he's at with this rezoning.

[0:43:32] Voice 4: yeah

[0:43:34] Voice 2: i would not like going forward i'd be extremely sketch about a rezoning because

[0:43:40] Voice 2: you lose control of some of the engineering monitoring if you

[0:43:43] Voice 4: do unless you have a really

[0:43:44] Voice 2: engineering monitoring like come on unless

[0:43:46] Voice 4: you have a really complex covenant yeah that you

[0:43:49] Voice 4: then need to monitor consistently over time yeah yeah yeah

[0:43:54] Voice 2: it's the same thing i told brayden

[0:43:56] Voice 2: frankly like you know we have very crude instruments in some ways with the trust but

[0:44:00] Voice 2: But as soon as we rezone, we have real problems with controlling water quality.

[0:44:03] Voice 4: Yeah. I mean, with Braden's, though, it's just so much more benign in terms of

[0:44:06] Voice 2: this is an

[0:44:07] Voice 4: actual production of wastewater, whereas Braden doesn't actually have any wastewater production.

[0:44:14] Voice 4: He just has run off. He needs to deal with.

[0:44:16] Voice 2: Yeah, it's a very different situation.

[0:44:18] Voice 4: Yeah.

[0:44:19] Voice 3: So with Braden's application, is he working towards clarifying the storm?

[0:44:27] Voice 4: He is.

[0:44:28] Voice 3: Yeah, he's actually

[0:44:28] Voice 4: hired a new firm.

[0:44:30] Voice 4: a better firm in mind or a more effective firm in my he's hired islander engineering to have

[0:44:35] Voice 4: another look at everything in terms of the stormwater uh management and they might have

[0:44:42] Voice 4: a completely different conclusion we had we tried to to wrestle his his other consultant

[0:44:48] Voice 4: to like you're not you you've given us a detailed review of or or you've you've given us what's

[0:44:57] Voice 4: needed for the buildings under the bc building code because that's your bread and butter but

[0:45:01] Voice 4: tell us are the activities is is there impacts to surface potential impacts to surface water

[0:45:09] Voice 4: uh if there are what are the you know remediation options including is a separator something that

[0:45:16] Voice 4: should be looked at and instead of them really analyzing if there's real impacts they just left

[0:45:20] Voice 4: to like okay let's make them do an oil separator like because they just they don't they didn't want

[0:45:27] Voice 4: want to do that work right they didn't want to do that hard engineering work so this new firm might

[0:45:31] Voice 4: have a completely different perspective but i'll have you know to be honest to be blunt i'll have

[0:45:36] Voice 4: way more confidence in the results of this engineer so he's working on that he's got a

[0:45:45] Voice 4: the itc had a bunch of concerns and he's had his rp bio address those so he has a letter that i

[0:45:51] Voice 4: need to look at but that will be provided to you and included an addendum letter from his

[0:45:55] Voice 4: professional biologists to address some of those concerns that the itc raised and the north pender

[0:46:02] Voice 4: conservancy continues to raise and then there's potential i think the say out and couch and would

[0:46:10] Voice 4: probably want an aia archaeological impact assessment completed and determining the scope

[0:46:17] Voice 4: of whether that's just on his bottom portion of lot or extending all the way up to his

[0:46:22] Voice 4: this upland portion is kind of, I think,

[0:46:25] Voice 4: what we're waiting for in terms of what they are recommending

[0:46:28] Voice 4: versus obviously the scope of the cost

[0:46:31] Voice 4: and effort to do upslope of all that.

[0:46:34] Voice 4: So that's where he's at with all that stuff.

[0:46:37] Voice 4: Of course, my goal as a planner is to get to yes or no

[0:46:41] Voice 4: on all of these things, so a little disappointing

[0:46:43] Voice 4: that I don't think we're going to get to the end with him,

[0:46:46] Voice 4: but it just is what it is.

[0:46:47] Voice 4: and um you know i think his his engineering plan and the failure of that uh should note you know

[0:47:00] Voice 4: that obvious well and you know staff can only provide so much work back and forth to to steer

[0:47:07] Voice 4: their their engineer to the work they should be doing on their own which is what we spend a lot

[0:47:13] Voice 4: of time behind the scenes doing so lots of stuff there but uh good that you understand where those

[0:47:18] Voice 4: things are out so so potentially recommendation for first reading for braden but maybe not if he

[0:47:24] Voice 4: doesn't get all this stuff but at least an update uh with grimmer i think it would be more let's

[0:47:29] Voice 4: focus on the tup and get him at least have his monitoring work done and then uh his rezoning

[0:47:37] Voice 4: stuff will carry over to the new term and the new the new trustees can decide if it's an appropriate

[0:47:44] Voice 4: land use or not and the new planner if that's me or someone else um

[0:47:49] Voice 2: sometimes

[0:47:50] Voice 4: we rotate around

[0:47:51] Voice 2: oh sorry yeah

[0:47:53] Voice 4: go ahead um

[0:47:54] Voice 2: i had a quick question about the board of variance um piece was that

[0:47:57] Voice 2: something that we saw come through as a variance or it just went straight to the board of variance

[0:48:01] Voice 4: they have the choice to go through the street

[0:48:03] Voice 4: to the board or or through uh the local trust

[0:48:06] Voice 4: committee applicants or people often ask us for recommendations of staff i don't typically provide

[0:48:13] Voice 4: provide recommendations just provide them the pros and cons there's a fact sheet that describes

[0:48:17] Voice 4: both uh the key determinant for border variance is whether you have a hardship or not so that's

[0:48:23] Voice 4: where i usually could start the conversation as well describe to me what you think your hardship

[0:48:28] Voice 4: is and if it's uh you know my lot is small and it's super steep slope so i have to build in the

[0:48:36] Voice 4: setback or i have to put stilts out into the setback that's probably a real hardship if it's

[0:48:42] Voice 4: i want to put my uh my my uh games building my games room uh up in the you know natural boundary

[0:48:53] Voice 4: because it gets a better view it's not a hardship yeah okay

[0:48:57] Voice 4: but that's up to the board to decide so

[0:48:59] Voice 4: that's the key determinants of the board is whether there's hardship and whether it's minor or not

[0:49:04] Voice 4: so if there's not a real hardship in my mind i would turn uh steer them typically to you folks

[0:49:11] Voice 4: but if there is a real hardship then sometimes they choose that route okay

[0:49:16] Voice 6: does the board of

[0:49:18] Voice 6: variance go through similar environmental considerations and how in depth is that process

[0:49:28] Voice 4: um just like you would be considering a variance like uh depending on what it is yeah if it's a

[0:49:36] Voice 4: seawall or something like that then yeah the board of variance is turning their mind to the same

[0:49:43] Voice 4: uh considerations and you do have a very effective board of variance uh a highly skilled

[0:49:49] Voice 4: uh either two two architects and a previous home inspector i think this is one of the other ones

[0:49:58] Voice 6: i guess my yeah i mean

[0:50:01] Voice 4: yeah variances like versus element permits you know which are

[0:50:06] Voice 4: or like not the form of character one,

[0:50:10] Voice 4: but like the trees one or the screener way one,

[0:50:16] Voice 4: you approve that's environmental.

[0:50:18] Voice 4: Whereas DVPs are typically, you're not looking a lot.

[0:50:21] Voice 4: They're more like structural aspects.

[0:50:24] Voice 4: But yes, I would say that staff are looking

[0:50:29] Voice 4: for the same things.

[0:50:30] Voice 4: We provide the same kind of staff report.

[0:50:32] Voice 4: We just don't provide a recommendation to the board,

[0:50:35] Voice 4: which is that's the probably the main unique difference is that we can help

[0:50:41] Voice 4: shape decisions of the Board of variance but we we don't provide a recommendation

[0:50:45] Voice 4: in the staff report whereas typically with local trust committee staff come

[0:50:52] Voice 4: with a clear recommendation and back that recommendation

[0:50:57] Voice 2: under

[0:51:00] Voice 4: an hour if we

[0:51:01] Voice 4: keep pushing all

[0:51:03] Voice 2: right all right

[0:51:05] Voice 3: um so we have uh page 93 we have trustee and local expense

[0:51:11] Voice 3: report for your information um patient 496 should adopt policies and standing resolutions

[0:51:18] Voice 3: um and um we have no new business um i

[0:51:25] Voice 6: did have a have a question we had briefly touched

[0:51:28] Voice 6: last meeting on the idea of trying to follow up on how Galliano was able to

[0:51:42] Voice 4: I still

[0:51:43] Voice 4: have that in my to do's let me follow that up for you yes

[0:51:46] Voice 6: I just it is

[0:51:48] Voice 4: literally still my today isn't just something I've just kind of kept

[0:51:52] Voice 4: punching off so I'll look that up and figure it out I think it's a pretty

[0:51:55] Voice 4: simple answer even I just haven't

[0:51:57] Voice 6: got to it

[0:51:58] Voice 4: so I'll get to that early next week

[0:52:01] Voice 4: okay sweet

[0:52:02] Voice 6: noise yeah

[0:52:03] Voice 4: excellent

[0:52:06] Voice 3: so I see mr. Dingman's hanging in the

[0:52:13] Voice 3: background there's anybody have any questions for mr. Dingman about anything

[0:52:16] Voice 3: because otherwise we're gonna wrap this up

[0:52:20] Voice 2: okay

[0:52:21] Voice 3: well our upcoming meeting the

[0:52:24] Voice 3: next regular meeting scheduled for september 4th 2026 at the st peter's england church hall on

[0:52:30] Voice 3: north bender um uh we we do have a second particular participation period i think you're

[0:52:38] Voice 3: the last ltc to uh to have that um so if anybody has any questions or comments for the ltc if you

[0:52:47] Voice 3: want to put your hand up um we can address those not seeing any hands um so we're looking towards

[0:53:00] Voice 3: adjournment i

[0:53:02] Voice 6: just uh thought uh our next meeting is september 4th that is the friday

[0:53:12] Voice 6: of the september long weekend that's an interesting challenge and i will not be in the country

[0:53:25] Voice 3: all right um i think we can look to lisa and to brad to have some comments

[0:53:33] Voice 3: as to why we selected on september the 4th and whether we can move it or not

[0:53:39] Voice 4: you know there's a lot going on in september but let's see what lisa has to say here

[0:53:43] Voice 4: trust

[0:53:44] Voice 2: council's the following week through

[0:53:47] Voice 1: the chair um i had been instructed by the director of

[0:53:53] Voice 1: of legislative services that following trust council,

[0:53:58] Voice 1: the campaign period begins

[0:54:00] Voice 1: and we can't schedule any meetings after that.

[0:54:05] Voice 1: And so we're trying to, during the campaign,

[0:54:08] Voice 1: like he, sorry, I'll start again.

[0:54:11] Voice 1: During the campaign period,

[0:54:12] Voice 1: we can schedule special meetings if necessary,

[0:54:15] Voice 1: or he recommended to, but not to schedule regular ones.

[0:54:17] Voice 1: So we're trying to get everybody a meeting in before Trust Council, and that was the only Friday that was available for the North Pender LTC.

[0:54:30] Voice 1: There are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 LTC meetings in the two weeks prior.

[0:54:38] Voice 2: Is that a rule or is that a suggestion?

[0:54:41] Voice 2: The

[0:54:42] Voice 1: suggestion was to not schedule any regular meetings during the campaign period due to best practices, but that the LTC could schedule a special meeting if they chose.

[0:54:55] Voice 1: And then, of course, once following the election in October, there's no meetings until everybody's sworn in.

[0:55:07] Voice 1: So there is that one month period that an LTC could choose to schedule a meeting, should they need to. So I'm just reiterating what, how I was told to do the schedule. And then it's, of course, up to the LTC to determine what they would like to do.

[0:55:24] Voice 1: if

[0:55:24] Voice 6: it were if that works for everybody else like it's not a conflict for anybody else i can

[0:55:31] Voice 6: do my best to make it work like remote remotely um but i wouldn't be able to be there in person

[0:55:41] Voice 6: just

[0:55:42] Voice 4: i do see there are a couple meetings after um not to be a thorn in your side lisa but i do

[0:55:51] Voice 4: I do see there are a couple of meetings after Trust Council for Salt Spring and Saturna.

[0:55:56] Voice 1: That's correct.

[0:55:56] Voice 1: That was done.

[0:55:58] Voice 1: Both Saturna canceled their last meeting and scheduled it for that date.

[0:56:04] Voice 1: And Salt Spring ignored the direction from the

[0:56:08] Voice 1: director and scheduled the regular meeting.

[0:56:10] Voice 1: So again, as I said, it is at the discretion of the LTC.

[0:56:14] Voice 1: So I'm

[0:56:15] Voice 2: game if we want to do the 18th.

[0:56:17] Voice 2: I don't feel any conflict.

[0:56:20] Voice 2: and Aaron

[0:56:20] Voice 4: I don't really feel like it's a problem

[0:56:22] Voice 2: just

[0:56:23] Voice 4: to clarify UBCM is that week so I think I

[0:56:25] Voice 4: would suggest potentially October 2nd that would give us more time to work on stuff even though

[0:56:33] Voice 4: uh I would certainly not recommend that you go against the director for the minutes

[0:56:44] Voice 4: so I

[0:56:46] Voice 2: can do October 2nd yeah

[0:56:48] Voice 4: Lisa would that work from a scheduling perspective I think it does

[0:56:52] Voice 1: i'll look at it um just just to note i don't believe any of executive committee is going to ubcm

[0:57:00] Voice 1: so that date might be available but october 2nd is completely clear there are no other council

[0:57:06] Voice 1: committee meetings of that date so i know that chair maude would not be attending an island's

[0:57:11] Voice 1: trust-based meeting on october 2nd let's

[0:57:15] Voice 6: do do october 2nd and

[0:57:17] Voice 4: andy's on saturn october 1st so

[0:57:20] Voice 4: so you could double-dip your travel, David.

[0:57:23] Voice 4: You could stay with Aaron.

[0:57:28] Voice 4: Check out his golf

[0:57:29] Voice 3: course dreams.

[0:57:31] Voice 3: I know he has vacancy in the pig shelters, though.

[0:57:33] Voice 3: That's right.

[0:57:36] Voice 3: All right,

[0:57:38] Voice 2: that sounds fine by me.

[0:57:40] Voice 6: Yeah, let's change it to October 2nd,

[0:57:43] Voice 6: and with all due respect to the director,

[0:57:49] Voice 6: I think that just works better,

[0:57:51] Voice 6: And it does give a little bit more time to maybe put a headlock on a few people.

[0:57:57] Voice 6: It

[0:57:57] Voice 4: actually works really good timing wise to give some more time to have a bunch of this stuff play out, even though it's against the advice of.

[0:58:08] Voice 4: And also, I think it's going to be a really busy agenda being your last one.

[0:58:13] Voice 4: So I think it's vital that you're there, Trustee Campbell.

[0:58:15] Voice 4: So I think we have to find a solution if that means it fits in.

[0:58:21] Voice 4: and you're still well before the local government election

[0:58:23] Voice 4: on the October 1st, so.

[0:58:27] Voice 4: Sorry,

[0:58:28] Voice 2: the local government election is October 1st?

[0:58:31] Voice 4: It's October 26th.

[0:58:33] Voice 4: I mean, sorry, by meeting on October 2nd,

[0:58:35] Voice 4: you're well, you're still well,

[0:58:39] Voice 4: like, you know, well in advance of that.

[0:58:43] Voice 2: Okay, so can I move?

[0:58:46] Voice 3: Well, let's just see what Lisa has to say.

[0:58:48] Voice 1: Through the chair, thank you, Trustee Morrison.

[0:58:50] Voice 1: I was just gonna recommend

[0:58:51] Voice 1: and that we needed a motion for that oh there we

[0:58:54] Voice 2: go i move that we move the north pender ltc

[0:58:58] Voice 2: regularly scheduled meeting from september 4th to october 2nd 2026.

[0:59:07] Voice 3: second trustee campbell any

[0:59:08] Voice 3: further discussion call the question on favor that

[0:59:13] Voice 6: carries thank you guys very much for that

[0:59:17] Voice 6: consideration lord

[0:59:18] Voice 2: knows you've adjusted for me enough so thanks for that

[0:59:22] Voice 3: all righty so with that

[0:59:25] Voice 3: i believe we are adjourned if everybody's happy so thank you everybody

[0:59:29] Voice 7: it's 1101.

[0:59:34] Voice 3: all right

[0:59:35] Voice 2: thanks you guys that's

[0:59:36] Voice 3: still pretty good yeah thanks everyone no one thank you

[0:59:39] Voice 3: everybody for moving around to accommodate me on this meeting so yeah all good good safe drive

[0:59:45] Voice 3: Thanks everybody. Have a good meeting though. Thanks,

[0:59:48] Voice 4: Lisa. Thanks, Didi. Thanks, everyone.

[0:59:51] Voice 4: Bye now. Bye. Thank you. Bye.