Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, May 25, 2021

[0:01:07] Trustee Luckham (probable): good morning everyone i'd

[0:01:09] Voice 26: be done apologize

[0:01:15] Trustee Luckham (probable): for my delay here i see that we're recording already

[0:01:22] Trustee Luckham (probable): great all right can folks all right can i still be heard all right thank you well good morning um

[0:03:12] Trustee Luckham (probable): everyone um we are recording and live streaming and uh my name is peter luckman i welcome you to

[0:03:21] Trustee Luckham (probable): to the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee

[0:03:24] Trustee Luckham (probable): for May the 25th.

[0:03:27] Trustee Luckham (probable): Wonder where the year has gone already,

[0:03:31] Trustee Luckham (probable): halfway over almost.

[0:03:33] Trustee Luckham (probable): Certainly another chilly morning here,

[0:03:36] Trustee Luckham (probable): which is actually a nice relief

[0:03:39] Trustee Luckham (probable): as we prepare for fire season starting up here.

[0:03:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): Want to acknowledge living and working

[0:03:45] Trustee Luckham (probable): in Coast Salish Territory,

[0:03:48] Trustee Luckham (probable): the rich history that is in this place.

[0:03:52] Trustee Luckham (probable): that we call home that has been the home to first nations since the beginning of time i am elected

[0:03:58] Trustee Luckham (probable): on thetis island which is in the penelakut and laxon territory and very grateful to be here

[0:04:03] Trustee Luckham (probable): i want to acknowledge trustee patrick good morning laura on salt spring island and trustee

[0:04:13] Trustee Luckham (probable): peter grove also on salt spring island i also acknowledge a contingent of staff of this today

[0:04:21] Trustee Luckham (probable): Thank you everybody for the work in preparing the meeting and getting us here today.

[0:04:25] Trustee Luckham (probable): So Planner Gordon, Planner Garbo, Rob Pringle, Planner Yeomans, Sylvia Oliver, Sarah Sugar,

[0:04:37] Trustee Luckham (probable): Christine Mays, and of course Stefan Cermak, our Regional Planning Manager.

[0:04:41] Trustee Luckham (probable): Good morning everyone and thank you.

[0:04:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): you um so together the elected and the staff uh we make up the local trust committee for

[0:04:54] Trustee Luckham (probable): for salt spring island and we're grateful to continue having the opportunity for electronic

[0:04:59] Trustee Luckham (probable): meetings rumor has it we might see some relief today from dr henry and ministry of health with

[0:05:06] Trustee Luckham (probable): respect to some of the restrictions in place i know many of us look forward to having meetings

[0:05:12] Trustee Luckham (probable): together again and indeed just gathering as friends and family and enjoying life

[0:05:18] Trustee Luckham (probable): in the way that we did so very long ago now it seems. But we'll see how that

[0:05:24] Trustee Luckham (probable): happens and encourage everybody to continue safe practices, social

[0:05:29] Trustee Luckham (probable): distancing, all of those, mask wearing and I also would ask that everybody that

[0:05:36] Trustee Luckham (probable): that still needs to get vaccinated,

[0:05:39] Trustee Luckham (probable): particularly the younger population,

[0:05:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): consider doing that.

[0:05:44] Trustee Luckham (probable): If you don't have any medical reasons not to,

[0:05:48] Trustee Luckham (probable): we need to get to what they call herd immunity

[0:05:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): and we're still some way off from that.

[0:05:54] Trustee Luckham (probable): So thank you for considering that

[0:05:56] Trustee Luckham (probable): and thank you to all of you that have sacrificed so much

[0:05:58] Trustee Luckham (probable): during this pandemic economically and family-wise

[0:06:02] Trustee Luckham (probable): and hopefully we will get through this together soon.

[0:06:06] Trustee Luckham (probable): There are technology challenges with electronic meetings, occasionally they rise up and interfere, particularly audio and video. And so if members need to turn their video off to improve their audio, please do so.

[0:06:23] Trustee Luckham (probable): So if you're having difficulty with audio, we will pause back to you if it doesn't seem

[0:06:29] Trustee Luckham (probable): to be solvable in the immediate time frame, and we will come back to you as it seems appropriate.

[0:06:38] Trustee Luckham (probable): When we get to the public engagement portion, there are digital hands to be raised on the

[0:06:44] Trustee Luckham (probable): screen and also telephone opportunities to engage with us, and I will cover those off

[0:06:50] Trustee Luckham (probable): when we get to the town hall section of the agenda.

[0:06:56] Trustee Luckham (probable): Just ask everybody as a place of employment

[0:06:58] Trustee Luckham (probable): and a place of gathering for our staff,

[0:07:02] Trustee Luckham (probable): for trustees and for members of the public,

[0:07:04] Trustee Luckham (probable): your friends and neighbors,

[0:07:06] Trustee Luckham (probable): let us be respectful

[0:07:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): and conduct ourselves with respectful language,

[0:07:12] Trustee Luckham (probable): speak to the issues and not individuals

[0:07:14] Trustee Luckham (probable): and we'll have a lovely meeting with that.

[0:07:18] Trustee Luckham (probable): that. So without further ado, I'm going to move to the agenda and ask if there's any additions

[0:07:27] Trustee Luckham (probable): or deletions from the agenda before us. There is a late item that came in, I think on Wednesday it

[0:07:36] Trustee Luckham (probable): was, water sustainability project. That is at 9.1 today. And I've included that already. Is there

[0:07:45] Trustee Luckham (probable): there anything else from anybody uh trustee patrick i

[0:07:48] Trustee Patrick: just wanted a high level verbal report

[0:07:51] Trustee Patrick: on the other two major projects are the ganges village and the housing action program at like

[0:07:57] Trustee Patrick: 9.2 i guess that would be okay

[0:08:00] Trustee Luckham (probable): so 9.2 um report on a verbal report on other projects okay anything

[0:08:21] Trustee Luckham (probable): anything else? Nope. Then let us take then the agenda by general consent. We'll adopt it as

[0:08:32] Trustee Luckham (probable): amended and we will begin. So draft minutes of the Saltsburg-London Local Trust Committee,

[0:08:39] Trustee Luckham (probable): draft minutes of April 27th regular meeting. They're here for adoption. Are there any changes

[0:08:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): to those minutes? Not seeing any. Then I will adopt those minutes by general consent as presented.

[0:08:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): presented. Thank you, Sarah Sugar, for your work.

[0:08:56] Trustee Luckham (probable): Next item on the list would be, there's no resolutions without meeting to report today.

[0:09:02] Trustee Luckham (probable): We have the draft minutes of the Advisory Planning Commission, Ganges Village Project

[0:09:09] Trustee Luckham (probable): Task Force meeting. That was the inaugural meeting of the Ganges Village Task Force and

[0:09:14] Trustee Luckham (probable): I want to thank all of those folks that have stepped up to assist us with that work and

[0:09:21] Trustee Luckham (probable): and I'm glad that you've elected your officers

[0:09:24] Trustee Luckham (probable): and that the work will begin soon.

[0:09:26] Trustee Luckham (probable): So thank you and thank you to staff for supporting that.

[0:09:30] Trustee Luckham (probable): The minutes there are mostly for information.

[0:09:33] Trustee Luckham (probable): Are there any questions or concerns about the minutes?

[0:09:36] Trustee Luckham (probable): Okay, so we just received them for information, thank you.

[0:09:38] Trustee Luckham (probable): The committee itself will adopt those minutes

[0:09:41] Trustee Luckham (probable): as time goes by.

[0:09:42] Trustee Luckham (probable): Local trust committee public hearing, nothing today.

[0:09:46] Trustee Luckham (probable): today um we do have a rise in report from our last meeting a month ago on april 27th from the

[0:09:53] Trustee Luckham (probable): in-camera session um and that may be uh understood already um out in the community that the salt

[0:10:00] Trustee Luckham (probable): spring island local trust committee appoint uh macon uh forest uh borderlow uh daniel wood

[0:10:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): Wood, Amber Anderson, Stanley J. Shapiro, James W. Back, Kiri Prolox, Mayor Kraynoff,

[0:10:18] Trustee Luckham (probable): I apologize for some of the names, Nema Dumodi, Yvonne Saunders, Jessica Terzakis, Bryce

[0:10:30] Trustee Luckham (probable): Chapman, Ronan Heitzman, all to the Housing Action Program Task Force.

[0:10:36] Trustee Luckham (probable): so also appreciate you folks all stepping up and I look forward to hearing about your meetings

[0:10:45] Trustee Luckham (probable): as we move forward through that work. So that's a rising report from the in-camera

[0:10:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): session where those folks were selected. Business arising from our last meeting

[0:10:59] Trustee Luckham (probable): is our follow-up action list dated May 2021. Perhaps just to turn briefly to

[0:11:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): uh um regional planning manager sir mac if you have any updates or comments with respect to the

[0:11:14] Trustee Luckham (probable): follow-up action list otherwise we'll go for questions regional planning manager steve on

[0:11:18] Trustee Luckham (probable): sir mac good morning sir morning

[0:11:20] Voice 16: thank you uh mr chair i have nothing to add to the follow-up

[0:11:23] Voice 16: action list all

[0:11:25] Trustee Luckham (probable): right thank you very much so i'll go to trustees and ask if there's questions on the

[0:11:29] Trustee Luckham (probable): follow-up action list trustee nope i

[0:11:32] Voice 26: have none perfect

[0:11:33] Trustee Luckham (probable): okay well very good then so let us then

[0:11:36] Trustee Luckham (probable): Then keep moving through the agenda community information

[0:11:38] Trustee Luckham (probable): meeting nothing today, public hearing nothing today.

[0:11:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): Reports this section now, we do have policy

[0:11:46] Trustee Luckham (probable): and standing resolutions list that's just here

[0:11:49] Trustee Luckham (probable): for our information for public's information

[0:11:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): and ask if there's any consideration with respect to those.

[0:11:55] Trustee Luckham (probable): So Trustee Patrick, over to you.

[0:11:58] Trustee Patrick: Yeah, I hope this is, I mean, this was the time

[0:12:00] Trustee Patrick: I thought it made sense to bring it up.

[0:12:02] Trustee Patrick: I should have probably asked at the time

[0:12:03] Trustee Patrick: when we were setting the agenda,

[0:12:04] Trustee Patrick: but there's been considerable concern raised in the community regarding portable sawmills and I

[0:12:12] Trustee Patrick: know we raised that issue back on our project list when we were considering a temporary use permit

[0:12:19] Trustee Patrick: for a commercial use of a portable sawmill but I think with the the price of lumber and the

[0:12:28] Trustee Patrick: and the concerns that are going on there we that there are a lot of people that are

[0:12:32] Trustee Patrick: milling and um trees that have been harvested to clear their their house sites um for use on

[0:12:38] Trustee Patrick: their sites and so i i would i think it'd be appropriate to ask for some some clarity because

[0:12:45] Trustee Patrick: i've i've received and i'm sure peter has a number of comments from people in the community that are

[0:12:49] Trustee Patrick: quite concerned they have one in their backyard they've been using it and now you know due to the

[0:12:53] Trustee Patrick: social media concerns they think they're in trouble and so i i think it's it's really causing

[0:12:58] Trustee Patrick: a lot of angst in a time when there's already a lot of angst so I'll propose a motion and then

[0:13:04] Trustee Patrick: if that's all right and make me go I was I'll move that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust

[0:13:08] Trustee Patrick: Committee direct staff report on options to clarify and allow the use of portable sawmills

[0:13:13] Trustee Patrick: for processing materials harvested on-site for on-site use. Second that.

[0:13:20] Trustee Luckham (probable): All right thank you

[0:13:21] Trustee Luckham (probable): Laura for bringing that to us so moved and seconded. Do you wish to speak to the motion further?

[0:13:26] Trustee Luckham (probable): I

[0:13:26] Trustee Patrick: think I generally spoke about it. I think I'm not one it would lovely to have permanent solutions. We know that always resources are difficult, but I think it's an important issue, timely issue.

[0:13:41] Trustee Luckham (probable): Yeah, certainly you've articulated that message well. I was speaking with my brother the other day and a two by four cost 10 bucks.

[0:13:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): Indeed. Peter Grove, do you have anything to offer?

[0:13:54] Trustee Grove: no i think it's a good um suggestion and i'm happy to second the motion

[0:13:59] Trustee Luckham (probable): right okay thank you any discussion no and um i can't help but think that um

[0:14:07] Trustee Luckham (probable): one needs to consider carefully when one is milling lumber that some self-milled lumber

[0:14:12] Trustee Luckham (probable): unless stamped by um having a timber stamp on it is not suitable for uh home building

[0:14:19] Trustee Luckham (probable): and construction certainly can be used for other uses but just to let people know that there are

[0:14:26] Trustee Luckham (probable): requirements in the building code with respect to materials used in the construction of a home

[0:14:32] Trustee Luckham (probable): but certainly for siding and fences and things like that it's fantastic to have that opportunity

[0:14:36] Trustee Luckham (probable): material so with that said i'll call for the vote on the motion thank you again trustee patrick all

[0:14:42] Trustee Luckham (probable): those in favor any opposed none opposed so that carries so we'll look forward to that we'll

[0:14:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): determine if there's some action that we can do to as you've said Laura to reduce the anxiety around

[0:14:58] Trustee Luckham (probable): the personal use of sawmills. All right then so work program top priorities report dated May the

[0:15:09] Trustee Luckham (probable): 21st. We're obviously going to be having a discussion about one of our projects here

[0:15:15] Trustee Luckham (probable): water sustainability and also an update on some of the other projects but I'll just ask are there

[0:15:21] Trustee Luckham (probable): any um suggestions or discussion around the work program top priority report no okay so we'll

[0:15:29] Trustee Luckham (probable): receive that for information and the next item then of course is our projects list of those

[0:15:35] Trustee Luckham (probable): activities that we want to undertake in the future and are there any um questions or concerns about

[0:15:41] Trustee Luckham (probable): that report then i will receive that for information as well so applications uh status

[0:15:49] Trustee Luckham (probable): report here dated May 2021. Perhaps provide Regional Planning Manager Cermak the opportunity

[0:15:56] Trustee Luckham (probable): if he has any amendments to the report at this time, or we'll just go to questions.

[0:16:03] Voice 16: I have nothing to add, so go ahead to questions.

[0:16:06] Trustee Luckham (probable): All right, thank you. And so, trustees, any

[0:16:09] Trustee Luckham (probable): questions on items on the application report? And please cite the reference in the list.

[0:16:14] Trustee Luckham (probable): Trustee Patrick, over to you.

[0:16:16] Trustee Patrick: I think it's not even on the list,

[0:16:18] Trustee Patrick: but I just wanted clarity there's been I've been contacted by a number of people and I've seen on

[0:16:22] Trustee Patrick: social media that folks are saying that you know islands trust is the reason there's a delay to the

[0:16:27] Trustee Patrick: metal lane project and I and I'm I'm adamant it is not so I just thought it'd be nice to confirm

[0:16:34] Trustee Patrick: that publicly that we have seen and made the decisions that we need to make and what I thought

[0:16:39] Trustee Patrick: was an extremely timely manner with that project so I just wanted to confirm that.

[0:16:44] Voice 16: I can confirm

[0:16:46] Voice 16: that there is no more decision making for the LDC to make and it was very expedient on the

[0:16:50] Voice 16: processing of that application.

[0:16:53] Trustee Patrick: That's what I've told everyone in the public. So I'm honest and

[0:16:57] Trustee Patrick: that's important. The other, I don't know if this is the right time to talk. I know we have a lot

[0:17:06] Trustee Patrick: of applications and I know at the executive level, we've talked about how can we manage

[0:17:14] Trustee Patrick: manage you know the bigger time consuming applications like rezonings when we have

[0:17:19] Trustee Patrick: you know smaller variances and so forth that get caught up in the queue because of this

[0:17:24] Trustee Patrick: is there either i don't know if there's talk islands trust wide is this something perhaps

[0:17:29] Trustee Patrick: peter and i should bring up at the the executive meeting of you know how to

[0:17:37] Trustee Patrick: sort these how can we make sure that we're not

[0:17:41] Trustee Patrick: leaving these simpler applications getting stuck in a longer queue when they might be tempted to

[0:17:47] Trustee Patrick: do something they're not supposed to do or something I mean people might just go ahead

[0:17:52] Trustee Patrick: and take action if they think the the queue is too long so I just I was just concerned if there's

[0:17:56] Trustee Patrick: anything we can do to manage the queue more effectively somehow if a

[0:18:04] Trustee Luckham (probable): great question there

[0:18:05] Trustee Luckham (probable): does seem to be a variety of methods throughout the trust area with respect to managing our

[0:18:11] Trustee Luckham (probable): So, Regent Planning Manager Cermak, would you like to offer us some advice on whether

[0:18:18] Trustee Luckham (probable): or not you have a recommendation that Laura and myself as executive committee members

[0:18:24] Trustee Luckham (probable): might undertake at EC to support this concern?

[0:18:32] Voice 16: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

[0:18:33] Voice 16: I understand one aspect of this is the fees by-law, and the reason I bring up the fees

[0:18:39] Voice 16: bylaws because also the processing bylaws that go with it should be sort of thought of hand in hand

[0:18:45] Voice 16: and i know there's been discussion about prioritizing various types of applications

[0:18:49] Voice 16: for example affordable housing or what whatever so um you know prioritizing groups of applications

[0:18:57] Voice 16: or types of applications is feasible as opposed to like sort of individual applications um other

[0:19:03] Voice 16: Other than that, you have an applications report for you, which indicates we're somewhat slowed down, but we're, there's, despite our, on Salt Spring anyways, we're actually moving pretty quickly through the applications.

[0:19:18] Voice 16: So the big backlog, or not even a backlog, but is a building permit referrals.

[0:19:24] Voice 16: And we have one planner doing that for all the trusts, and he's actually doing an extraordinary job of moving those within five to 10 days.

[0:19:32] Voice 16: and if and so we're not really that sort of rumor or a discussion point about Islands Trust slowing

[0:19:40] Voice 16: down building permits are just sort of factually incorrect so they're you know I would argue that

[0:19:48] Voice 16: a seven-day period of consideration is not it's not a long time but that's my perspective perhaps

[0:19:56] Voice 16: so in regards to the other questions about their development variance permits you would have to

[0:20:00] Voice 16: change the policies about how you process things and your concept of administrative fairness about

[0:20:05] Voice 16: what comes first in what goes first out and how you prioritize things so that is a very big trust

[0:20:10] Voice 16: wide topic I would argue and so it's a great topic to have it's very you know from staff's

[0:20:17] Voice 16: perspective would be wonderful if you could sort of you know take some things off your plate defer

[0:20:21] Voice 16: things and there's a lot of things we could do probably to simplify the process for you

[0:20:26] Voice 16: in terms of staff report writing we spend probably too much time writing reports as

[0:20:31] Voice 16: opposed to just getting them to you so you can make decisions I would argue that's especially

[0:20:35] Voice 16: with the simple ones the variance permits and things like that so there's a whole host of

[0:20:40] Voice 16: things but I don't think I could give you a whole shopping list because it is a trust-wide project

[0:20:44] Voice 16: and I think director martyr is has probably been having those conversations as long as I've known

[0:20:50] Voice 16: own him with various groups in the uh the the trust so i don't know does that does it help at

[0:20:57] Voice 16: all i'm not sure no

[0:20:59] Trustee Patrick: thank you it does help uh director marler has had the conversation but we

[0:21:02] Trustee Patrick: haven't moved beyond it he talked about examples of how some jurisdictions will limit the number

[0:21:08] Trustee Patrick: of rezoning applications that can be actively worked on at any time and so there's he's he's

[0:21:13] Trustee Patrick: thrown out examples but there's no momentum behind that so uh no thanks for the conversation i can

[0:21:18] Trustee Patrick: and bring that to the Regional Planning Committee

[0:21:20] Trustee Patrick: and the Executive Committee for further conversations.

[0:21:25] Voice 3: Okay, thank you, both of you.

[0:21:27] Voice 3: Trustee Grove.

[0:21:29] Trustee Grove: Presumably, this is something that we can deal with locally

[0:21:31] Trustee Grove: for our local activities.

[0:21:33] Trustee Grove: I

[0:21:36] Trustee Luckham (probable): think I'll turn it over to Stefan to answer that.

[0:21:42] Voice 16: Thank you, Trustee Grove.

[0:21:44] Voice 16: So what you probably will hear me repeat

[0:21:47] Voice 16: if you ask me again is I'll be quoting

[0:21:48] Voice 16: to you trust council policies.

[0:21:50] Voice 16: policies and those trust council policies are very clear about at least to staff the you know

[0:21:57] Voice 16: the concept of administrative fairness and sort of first come first out and so that everybody gets

[0:22:03] Voice 16: treated equally there's no prioritized processing we just deal with it as they come and if we get

[0:22:11] Voice 16: bogged down because development is high then we sort of inform people that we're a little bit

[0:22:16] Voice 16: bogged down. But again, I would argue that the Salt Spring team is moving quite quickly through

[0:22:20] Voice 16: the applications, despite this is the first time I've ever seen an LTC meeting, Salt Spring LTC

[0:22:24] Voice 16: meeting, with no applications on it. That is quite a bizarre state. That's kind of took me for a loop.

[0:22:30] Voice 16: But you remember last meeting, we had many. So, Trustee Grove, my answer to you is that if

[0:22:35] Voice 16: on an individual LTC meeting, I would quote trust council policies, and that's the proper place to

[0:22:41] Voice 16: move. And that's probably why you haven't had any movement from Director Marler, because, you know,

[0:22:47] Voice 16: to change that policy is a bit of a slog. But maybe one last point is that Legislative Manager

[0:22:56] Voice 16: Carmen Thiel, she is in the process of updating, I believe, all your policies,

[0:23:01] Voice 16: or at least having a look at them. So a combination of Carmen and David

[0:23:06] Voice 16: it might actually be a good time to answer Trustee Patrick's question, how to tip it

[0:23:12] Voice 16: over the momentum into action.

[0:23:14] Voice 16: And so I believe Legislative Manager Carmen Thiel would be, she's a pretty good, she's

[0:23:20] Voice 16: got a lot of momentum changing those, or at least reviewing all those policies.

[0:23:24] Trustee Grove: Thank you, Stephan.

[0:23:28] Voice 3: Okay, very good.

[0:23:29] Trustee Luckham (probable): So I think that covers that off.

[0:23:32] Trustee Luckham (probable): So Laura, I'll leave that in your hands.

[0:23:35] Trustee Luckham (probable): I'm certainly happy to speak to it at EC as well.

[0:23:37] Trustee Luckham (probable): Well, anything else with respect to applications on the status report? Peter Grove.

[0:23:46] Trustee Grove: Sorry, we're actually now at 8.4, are you saying?

[0:23:52] Voice 3: That's correct, yes.

[0:23:54] Trustee Grove: Good. I have a few quick questions.

[0:23:56] Trustee Grove: Page 59, if you would, Marina Expansion.

[0:24:01] Trustee Grove: Actually, no, drop that. I'm on the wrong page here.

[0:24:05] Trustee Grove: um page 59 the subdivision 2102 full for ganges road um you should know that uh the apc recommended

[0:24:17] Trustee Grove: that this not be forwarded to the alc i'm sure there'll be a report from start at some stage

[0:24:22] Trustee Grove: that

[0:24:26] Voice 16: is correct um

[0:24:28] Trustee Grove: next um page 61 um bear with me this is um subdivision

[0:24:42] Trustee Grove: DPA 7 riparian area requires a QEP approval and this came to us in October and on March the 1st

[0:24:52] Trustee Grove: we received an updated assessment report so I'm just wondering what's happening now.

[0:25:00] Voice 16: Yeah thank you Trustee Grove. There's a few other issues about

[0:25:05] Voice 16: creating pathways. Long story short the CRD parks have a master plan and they identify

[0:25:12] Voice 16: identify that large block, I believe it could be 64 hectares, but, you know, take that with a grain

[0:25:17] Voice 16: of salt, but it's a large block of land. And it identifies it as a gap in the PATH network. And

[0:25:24] Voice 16: staff from the CRD have requested, and I believe they're reconsidering how to ask the Ministry of

[0:25:32] Voice 16: Transportation Infrastructure for a PATH connecting through the properties. And I believe that's where

[0:25:38] Voice 16: it's at.

[0:25:41] Trustee Grove: Thank you. Page 64, SSDP 2021.5, Miss Crofton's Housing Corporation. The purpose is

[0:25:51] Trustee Grove: to increase the density in order to build 10 small rental cottages. That came to us in March

[0:25:58] Trustee Grove: and nothing's happened on that. Wondering what's going on.

[0:26:05] Voice 16: Again, thank you. That application has

[0:26:07] Voice 16: has numerous issues that need to be resolved

[0:26:10] Voice 16: before we can get a preliminary report before the LTC.

[0:26:13] Voice 16: And I don't wish to, yeah, give too much away.

[0:26:19] Voice 16: That's a certain discussion between the planner

[0:26:21] Voice 16: and the owner, but suffice to say there's numerous issues.

[0:26:25] Trustee Grove: Thank you, and a note to that effect on this schedule

[0:26:28] Trustee Grove: would be helpful.

[0:26:28] Trustee Grove: Otherwise I'll be probably asking

[0:26:30] Trustee Grove: the same question next month.

[0:26:34] Voice 16: Okay, well, I mean, perhaps a little bit of information,

[0:26:36] Voice 16: how we proceed generally in updating that

[0:26:39] Voice 16: that is when there's something to report.

[0:26:41] Voice 16: So if we're in the beginning stages

[0:26:43] Voice 16: of getting information and in discussions,

[0:26:47] Voice 16: perhaps the only thing I could recommend updating there

[0:26:50] Voice 16: would be say, in discussion with owner,

[0:26:53] Voice 16: or perhaps

[0:26:54] Voice 26: the planner would like to add something.

[0:26:56] Voice 16: Hi, Geordie.

[0:27:00] Voice 16: Chair Luckom, would you like to hear

[0:27:01] Voice 16: from the planner on the file?

[0:27:05] Trustee Luckham (probable): Certainly, and then just note that,

[0:27:07] Trustee Luckham (probable): And perhaps he can embrace that as well.

[0:27:11] Trustee Luckham (probable): I just note that it talks about Salt Spring rezoning 2021.2, which I don't see on our

[0:27:19] Trustee Luckham (probable): list here and what that relationship is with that and the increased density on that property.

[0:27:26] Trustee Luckham (probable): So over to Planner, is it Planner Gordon?

[0:27:29] Trustee Luckham (probable): Over to you, Planner Gordon.

[0:27:31] Voice 17: Yes, thank you, Chair.

[0:27:32] Voice 17: I just wanted to clarify that that development permit was submitted concurrently with the

[0:27:37] Voice 17: the rezoning somewhat maybe against a little bit of staff advice but they wanted to essentially

[0:27:43] Voice 17: have the DP in at the same time as rezoning so that DP will sort of proceed very slowly

[0:27:49] Voice 17: because a lot of the issues with the rezoning have to be worked out before the DP can be

[0:27:54] Voice 17: adequately addressed and that rezoning as Regional Planning Manager Cermak alluded to

[0:28:01] Voice 17: has numerous issues so it might be a little bit of time before you see that initial report but

[0:28:07] Voice 17: but I can certainly update the report to reflect that.

[0:28:12] Trustee Grove: Thank you, certainly the subject looks interesting.

[0:28:15] Trustee Grove: And lastly, page 71,

[0:28:18] Trustee Grove: Capital Regional District with regard to Drake Road.

[0:28:22] Trustee Grove: We requested an update from the applicant in July, 2020

[0:28:26] Trustee Grove: and have not heard back by the looks of things.

[0:28:29] Trustee Grove: So we should ask for an update, I think.

[0:28:34] Voice 16: Thank you again to the chair.

[0:28:36] Voice 16: Sorry about that, that's my file.

[0:28:37] Voice 16: and there's been numerous discussions but nothing really to report so I'll

[0:28:43] Voice 16: turn my attention to that and at bare minimum update the the tapas the pardon

[0:28:48] Voice 16: me the applications who log thank

[0:28:51] Trustee Grove: you very much thank you Peter

[0:28:55] Trustee Luckham (probable): trustee Patrick any questions on the applications log okay so we'll receive

[0:29:00] Trustee Luckham (probable): the rest of that for information thank you for that clarity

[0:29:02] Trustee Luckham (probable): planner Gordon and regional planning manager sir Mac and let us then go

[0:29:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): go expense report nothing today islands trust conservancy report nothing today uh salt spring

[0:29:14] Trustee Luckham (probable): island uh watershed protection alliance coordinators report i also see the uh

[0:29:22] Trustee Luckham (probable): uh i'm i'm at a loss for the title of uh ms cohen that's joined us here today from swipa

[0:29:29] Trustee Luckham (probable): um i see her with us as well today and welcome her and i'll turn it to the chair of swipa

[0:29:36] Trustee Luckham (probable): help me out there.

[0:29:39] Trustee Patrick: Well, I'm happy to introduce Shannon, the coordinator.

[0:29:44] Trustee Patrick: Sorry,

[0:29:45] Voice 21: I didn't change my title in the Zoom there, Chair Luckham. Thank you for having me today. Nice

[0:29:51] Voice 21: to see you all. It's been many months since I've had a chance to give you a quick update,

[0:29:56] Voice 21: so I thought I would do that verbally this time.

[0:30:00] Voice 21: also might share my screen but just as a way to show you where things are on the website if you're

[0:30:05] Voice 21: interested so the SWPA work plan for the fiscal year that began in April includes some water

[0:30:11] Voice 21: availability analysis projects some policy and planning projects some communications projects

[0:30:16] Voice 21: and also coordination of some monitoring the water availability analysis at the Weston Lake I'm sure

[0:30:23] Voice 21: you're quite familiar with because that's been ongoing through the local trust committee it's

[0:30:27] Voice 21: at the process now where the memorandum is established between CRD and Islands Trust

[0:30:32] Voice 21: and my understanding is that they're seeking a qualified professional to do that work at CRD.

[0:30:37] Voice 21: The only other water availability study is at Cedar Lane and that's in a bit of a holding

[0:30:42] Voice 21: pattern as far as SWPA coordination is concerned. At the moment CRD is the project lead on that one.

[0:30:48] Voice 21: The monitoring studies include the work of the Community Groundwater Monitoring Network

[0:30:54] Voice 21: work and that's ongoing with the it's about a quarterly data coordination for going out into

[0:31:01] Voice 21: the community to gather the data so SWPA is still involved with that and the biggest project that

[0:31:06] Voice 21: SWPA has been involved with is the water system data management assistance project it's quite a

[0:31:11] Voice 21: mouthful but basically it means going around to the small water systems as well as the CRD systems

[0:31:16] Voice 21: and the North Salt Spring Waterworks District to collect data in a survey that the intention was

[0:31:22] Voice 21: to find out what the opportunities and challenges are but also to be able to compare consumption

[0:31:26] Voice 21: data and pricing structures and it's been quite a process but we're now in the final stretches for

[0:31:32] Voice 21: that and the SWPA steering committee should be getting the final report in June it has had a

[0:31:38] Voice 21: first draft already and we're just trying to gather some non-revenue water data so it's been an

[0:31:43] Voice 21: interesting process the intention is not to call anyone out but really to be able to show the

[0:31:48] Voice 21: community and the small water system managers some of the diversity that does exist in the water

[0:31:54] Voice 21: systems and potentially to assist for the SWPA agencies to have the information to be able to

[0:32:00] Voice 21: provide some assistance if needed. At the policy and planning level we have the watershed protection

[0:32:06] Voice 21: plan which again Isles Trust is the lead. We have the algal bloom notification alert project that

[0:32:13] Voice 21: has just begun to get rolling. The lead on that is the Water Preservation Society which is a member

[0:32:17] Voice 21: at large at SWPA just getting underway in May 2021 and the proof of sufficient water is still

[0:32:24] Voice 21: ongoing project and the Blackburn legacy landfill project is not yet underway. In communications

[0:32:29] Voice 21: that's where I have the most to report we have we have released a groundwater education brochure

[0:32:36] Voice 21: the know your well brochure so I just thought that I would share my screen briefly if I have this

[0:32:41] Voice 21: moment to share where that is on the SWPA website. The annual report came out actually in March and

[0:32:49] Voice 21: then I re-released it in May but also in May what we released was this Know Your Groundwater Well

[0:32:54] Voice 21: brochure so if you do go into the SWPA news and you click on this post the well brochure will

[0:33:02] Voice 21: come up and it's intended at an audience that may be new to the islands or may not have a lot of

[0:33:10] Voice 21: of experience with their own management of their groundwater well so there's a diagram of the well

[0:33:16] Voice 21: there's some tips and tools on water sustainability and in the second portion there's quite a bit on

[0:33:22] Voice 21: drilling a new well if that's what you're doing or if you're testing the water in your well which

[0:33:27] Voice 21: all well owners will be required to do and there's a little section on licensing at the bottom there

[0:33:31] Voice 21: with lots of links to the amazing materials that the province and the bc groundwater association

[0:33:36] Voice 21: Association already does have online. So the intention wasn't to redo the wheel, but just to

[0:33:41] Voice 21: get more information. This is now going to go into print form across the island, and it's been

[0:33:46] Voice 21: released digitally on the website and through our subscribers. And as you also saw, we released our

[0:33:52] Voice 21: annual report for last year, and some rainwater harvesting education materials have gone out again,

[0:33:57] Voice 21: including to the CRD building office in the last week. And the only last little bit is that there

[0:34:03] Voice 21: was a freshwater stewardship webinar that SWPA participated in at the Transition Salt Spring

[0:34:08] Voice 21: Society and that's available online that was at the end of April. So that's my update today if

[0:34:13] Voice 21: you have any questions for me I'm happy to answer them.

[0:34:18] Trustee Luckham (probable): Okay thank you Sharon for joining us I

[0:34:20] Trustee Luckham (probable): really appreciate having you make these presentations and I certainly think it's

[0:34:26] Trustee Luckham (probable): helpful to the public to see the coordinator directly involved with the LTC so thank you

[0:34:33] Trustee Luckham (probable): you for joining us any questions from the trustees uh peter grove

[0:34:36] Trustee Grove: shannon thanks so much um that so

[0:34:38] Trustee Grove: that all looks terrific and i think we need to get the word out somehow uh social media or whatever

[0:34:44] Trustee Grove: there's really good information there and people just don't know about it and um so do whatever

[0:34:51] Trustee Grove: you can in that regard i'd say thank

[0:34:53] Voice 21: you very much and i will um just acknowledge that transition

[0:34:56] Voice 21: salt spring is a member at swipa and they've been doing a wonderful job getting the word out for

[0:35:00] Voice 21: for their webinars and also for the super materials

[0:35:02] Voice 21: in their newsletter as well.

[0:35:04] Voice 21: So we're gonna continue to work with them on that.

[0:35:08] Voice 21: Thank you.

[0:35:10] Trustee Luckham (probable): Great, okay.

[0:35:11] Trustee Luckham (probable): And Trustee Patrick, do you have any remarks?

[0:35:15] Trustee Patrick: Nope, thank you.

[0:35:16] Trustee Patrick: I can't remember, did Transition have success on some,

[0:35:22] Trustee Patrick: I knew they were working to be an agency

[0:35:24] Trustee Patrick: to help manage grants for helping people

[0:35:27] Trustee Patrick: put in rainwater catchment systems.

[0:35:29] Trustee Patrick: I thought I heard some potential good news

[0:35:31] Trustee Patrick: coming along those lines they

[0:35:33] Voice 21: did get a van city grant for their green concierge or green coaching

[0:35:37] Voice 21: program which includes i think wood stoves and rainwater incentives but they haven't launched

[0:35:42] Voice 21: it yet so i think the process of developing it so

[0:35:45] Trustee Patrick: something's coming so that's a good news more

[0:35:48] Trustee Patrick: good news that

[0:35:49] Trustee Luckham (probable): is good news excellent okay well thank you again sharon for joining us today

[0:35:54] Trustee Luckham (probable): day um with that we're now at uh section nine local trust committee projects um we do have 9.1

[0:36:05] Trustee Luckham (probable): water sustainability project before us is everybody content to continue on at this point

[0:36:10] Trustee Luckham (probable): yeah all right then so let us go then to uh jason uh planner jason yeomans um who has brought us

[0:36:18] Trustee Luckham (probable): this report today with quite honestly an awful lot of options and considerations um um so

[0:36:26] Trustee Luckham (probable): So thank you, and I'll just turn it over to you

[0:36:28] Trustee Luckham (probable): to summarize for us and for the public

[0:36:33] Trustee Luckham (probable): what it is that you're asking us

[0:36:34] Trustee Luckham (probable): in terms of the recommendations listed.

[0:36:38] Voice 24: Sure, thank you, Chair Luckham.

[0:36:39] Voice 24: Is my audio working appropriately?

[0:36:42] Voice 24: Great.

[0:36:44] Voice 24: So first of all, apologies for the late agenda item.

[0:36:47] Voice 24: I know they're not generally welcomed,

[0:36:49] Voice 24: but I also wanted to ensure that the LTC

[0:36:52] Voice 24: could advance its business in a timely fashion.

[0:36:54] Voice 24: I found this report that's before you challenging to write and unfortunately I in turn recognize

[0:37:03] Voice 24: that it may have been challenging to read and digest and formulate the direction that you

[0:37:09] Voice 24: want things to go in so I'm hoping that this morning we can take things nice and slow

[0:37:14] Voice 24: and resolve any questions that I may have for you but more importantly which I am sure that you have

[0:37:21] Voice 24: for me. So if you'll just bear with me, I'm going to share my screen. All right. Is everyone able

[0:37:44] Voice 24: to observe my PowerPoint slide? Okay, thanks. So this item comes to you today as a result of

[0:37:53] Voice 24: a resolution made at the April LTC meeting, which was that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust

[0:37:58] Voice 24: Committee direct staff to report back with A, options for and implications of using watershed

[0:38:04] Voice 24: strategic planning project resources to support community and agency engagement around issues of

[0:38:09] Voice 24: forest preservation and stewardship in the context of watershed protection. That was a wordy

[0:38:15] Voice 24: resolution that I think I had a hand in authoring, so hopefully it serves the purpose here, and be

[0:38:22] Voice 24: how this work could be coordinated with the Coastal Douglas Fir Protection Project. For the purposes

[0:38:29] Voice 24: of today's discussion, I've kind of boiled down the issues at hand, I think, to three

[0:38:35] Voice 24: primary points that derive from that resolution in April. The first of which is a question about

[0:38:43] Voice 24: how to fund engagement around the Coastal Douglas Fir Project, because I gathered from the April

[0:38:48] Voice 24: discussion that there was concern that the current budget for the Coastal Douglas Fir Protection

[0:38:55] Voice 24: project was likely insufficient to do the level of consultation or engagement around

[0:39:00] Voice 24: Coastal Douglas for ecosystem protection that the local trust committee would like to see.

[0:39:05] Voice 24: And therefore, looking over at the budget for the watershed planning project, which

[0:39:10] Voice 24: could potentially be upwards of $50,000, there was budget within there potentially that could

[0:39:16] Voice 24: be used for this purpose of doing some CDF engagement.

[0:39:19] Voice 24: engagement also recognizing of course that there is a natural synthesis between forest stewardship

[0:39:25] Voice 24: and protection and watershed protection I would venture to say that protecting the watersheds is

[0:39:30] Voice 24: is by and large about protecting trees so that's that's one issue how do we fund CDF engagement

[0:39:35] Voice 24: and how does that relate to watershed plan development the second issue is actually a

[0:39:40] Voice 24: discussion about developing a watershed plan and the scale at which the local trust committee wants

[0:39:46] Voice 24: that to happen at the present time and then the third item I think for discussion today is a is

[0:39:53] Voice 24: consideration of the project charter for phase two of the Coastal Douglas fur protection project

[0:39:58] Voice 24: and potentially endorsement of the engagement plan that was attached to your staff report.

[0:40:05] Voice 24: So in thinking about this first subject which is how to fund engagement community engagement

[0:40:11] Voice 24: around Coastal Douglas fur protection and how to coordinate that with the watershed plan

[0:40:17] Voice 24: Staff surmised that there are potentially four options that the LTC could consider in doing this.

[0:40:23] Voice 24: One is simply if the LTC is of the belief that forests and watershed protection are intricately, intrinsically linked enough,

[0:40:35] Voice 24: you can terminate the Coastal Douglas Fir Protection Project and focus all your efforts on development of a watershed stewardship and protection strategic plan,

[0:40:45] Voice 24: working on the assumption that when that plan is published and presented to the community,

[0:40:52] Voice 24: it will likely contain recommendations or direction around forest protection. And at that

[0:40:59] Voice 24: time, the LTC could revisit the question of a dedicated forest protection project that derives

[0:41:08] Voice 24: from the recommendations of whatever plan emerges from the watershed planning project.

[0:41:13] Voice 24: the second option and this was the one that i think was alluded to in april

[0:41:17] Voice 24: is simply to include a line item in the project charter for the watershed plan that may be

[0:41:23] Voice 24: developed that specifically identifies coastal douglas for forest engagement as a deliverable

[0:41:30] Voice 24: that the consultant who develops that greater watershed plan needs to do while they're carrying

[0:41:35] Voice 24: out their duties under their contract. A third option is to hire an outside consultant to

[0:41:44] Voice 24: undertake forest-related engagement as part of the existing Coastal Douglas fir forest project.

[0:41:50] Voice 24: And the reason that staff include this as a potential option is that in discussions with

[0:41:56] Voice 24: the Director of Local Planning Services, it seems like the door may be open for more funding to be

[0:42:02] Voice 24: added to the coastal douglas fir project budget so the trust council budget that was approved in

[0:42:10] Voice 24: march for the for this current fiscal year identified a five thousand dollar budget for

[0:42:15] Voice 24: the coastal douglas fir forest project and so we've been working on the assumption that there's

[0:42:19] Voice 24: five thousand dollars which doesn't go very far if you're looking to bring in an outside facilitator

[0:42:23] Voice 24: to have some um uh concerted conversations with uh or in-depth conversations i guess should we

[0:42:29] Voice 24: we say with stakeholders. The director of local planning services has implied that potentially

[0:42:35] Voice 24: there could be more money available for this project, not a mince worth of money, but maybe

[0:42:41] Voice 24: upwards of another $5,000 to be added to it if the local trust committee made such a request.

[0:42:46] Voice 24: And then the fourth option for this funding sort of in-depth conversations around coastal

[0:42:54] Voice 24: Douglas for stewardship and protection in the context of watersheds was sort of a dark horse

[0:42:59] Voice 24: that we that we came upon at the last minute but that seems a an actual sort of logical synthesis

[0:43:05] Voice 24: of the two projects which is to request that SWPA be the lead on doing this facilitated engagement

[0:43:14] Voice 24: work given that SWPA already has a mandate for watershed protection and also the coordinator

[0:43:20] Voice 24: has advised me likely has money in the budget for this fiscal year that could be deployed for such.

[0:43:28] Voice 24: There was something in the order of $11,000, I think, earmarked around education and communications

[0:43:34] Voice 24: in the SWPA budget for this fiscal year. And currently $5,000 to $6,000 of that budget

[0:43:42] Voice 24: doesn't have any particular projects attached to it, is my understanding. So that's an option for

[0:43:48] Voice 24: the ltc to consider as well and it's in fact the one that staff have recommended as recommendation

[0:43:53] Voice 24: number four in the staff report that you have received so i don't know whether you would like

[0:44:01] Voice 24: me to carry on at this point or maybe this is a good place to stop and review these options and

[0:44:09] Voice 24: have some discussion around that i mean this discussion is naturally connected to some of the

[0:44:14] Voice 24: to the two other items that I showed on that list of three which is actually developing the

[0:44:19] Voice 24: watershed plan for Salt Spring and also the discussion about endorsement of a coastal

[0:44:25] Voice 24: Douglas for project charter and engagement plan but I think perhaps it might behoove us just to

[0:44:30] Voice 24: pause here and think about some of these options and and what would work best for the local trust

[0:44:34] Voice 24: committee and for the community I

[0:44:39] Voice 26: agree with that very

[0:44:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): good thank you Jason yeah I'm sure we've all

[0:44:46] Trustee Luckham (probable): I know we've all read it through, and there may be some questions of clarity or other questions.

[0:44:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): So let's go to the trustees and see if they want to seek some clarity at this point.

[0:44:58] Trustee Luckham (probable): And Trustee Grove, you said you agree, so over to you.

[0:45:02] Trustee Grove: Well, I just think that we need to pause at this moment.

[0:45:05] Trustee Grove: And it's a question of how to deal with this.

[0:45:10] Trustee Grove: I mean, my my reaction is I don't like option one.

[0:45:16] Trustee Grove: I don't like the concept of terminating the CDF protection project.

[0:45:21] Trustee Grove: So and I'm not that keen about a separate consultant and I'm not sure how much money we have for that.

[0:45:32] Trustee Grove: So Swipper certainly has an appeal. They have money.

[0:45:37] Trustee Grove: they are they are in the business of water sheds and protecting water sheds

[0:45:43] Trustee Grove: and it would quite frankly I think give them something valuable something

[0:45:49] Trustee Grove: additionally valuable to provide for our community those are my instant thoughts

[0:45:55] Trustee Grove: okay

[0:46:00] Voice 3: trustee Patrick

[0:46:02] Trustee Patrick: first I guess I'll stick to the options first and my

[0:46:09] Trustee Patrick: my conversation um actually i i'm i'm i am opposed to option four because swipa is a group of member

[0:46:17] Trustee Patrick: agencies we need a member agency to step forward to take a lead if the islands trust is a member

[0:46:22] Trustee Patrick: agency that wishes to do this type of engagement and request swipa to lead it then that that it's

[0:46:27] Trustee Patrick: so it's a i'm trying to be very firm as a chair that we must have a member agency as a lead in

[0:46:34] Trustee Patrick: in a project that SWPA should not be generating

[0:46:36] Trustee Patrick: its own work independently.

[0:46:38] Trustee Patrick: It coordinates across agencies.

[0:46:42] Trustee Patrick: And I think that's where the benefit

[0:46:44] Trustee Patrick: and that's what we were talking about

[0:46:46] Trustee Patrick: with watershed protection.

[0:46:48] Trustee Patrick: There are a host of tools out there amongst various agencies

[0:46:54] Trustee Patrick: that together protect the watersheds

[0:46:58] Trustee Patrick: and the ecosystems of this island.

[0:47:00] Trustee Patrick: Islands Trust is just one of those parties.

[0:47:03] Trustee Patrick: And that was my initial thinking of solving the conundrum of budgeting was that part of the watershed strategic planning was to do some community engagement to get good understanding of the problems we face.

[0:47:23] Trustee Patrick: We can't do everything on salt.

[0:47:25] Trustee Patrick: I think that's one of the key things I'm learning.

[0:47:28] Trustee Patrick: And one of the, you know, when we look at climate change and all of the problems we're

[0:47:33] Trustee Patrick: facing, it's always like, you know, you want to do it all.

[0:47:36] Trustee Patrick: And it gets exciting when you think of it.

[0:47:37] Trustee Patrick: You know, the Climate Action Plan has, I don't know, hundreds of actions.

[0:47:41] Trustee Patrick: We can't do it all.

[0:47:42] Trustee Patrick: We have to choose and be very strategic in our thoughts and focus all of our efforts.

[0:47:47] Trustee Patrick: And the more that we can coordinate our efforts across various organizations in the island,

[0:47:52] Trustee Patrick: and actually the more robust work we could do

[0:47:55] Trustee Patrick: and the more impact we can get from our actions.

[0:48:00] Trustee Patrick: So my thoughts, I mean, I still, whether it's in or out,

[0:48:06] Trustee Patrick: we are, if we do the strategic planning

[0:48:09] Trustee Patrick: with the watershed planning,

[0:48:11] Trustee Patrick: we will be discussing the health of our ecosystems

[0:48:13] Trustee Patrick: and our watersheds will be discussed.

[0:48:15] Trustee Patrick: With or without our direction,

[0:48:19] Trustee Patrick: it i am i am confident that we cannot talk about our watersheds in a strategic planning element and

[0:48:26] Trustee Patrick: i and i have checked that with numerous agencies i've talked to the fire department i've talked to

[0:48:30] Trustee Patrick: the various scientists i've talked to transition i've taught and everyone's like yeah it's the

[0:48:35] Trustee Patrick: ecosystem health is vital to the our watershed so i i would be shocked if we did community if we had

[0:48:43] Trustee Patrick: a strategic planning process that did not come to that conclusion as being an important

[0:48:50] Trustee Patrick: um element of our of our plan one of i i think what might be beneficial is and and i had proposed

[0:49:02] Trustee Patrick: a a a motion on that is that i i know we're sensitive to more meetings and i and i'm and

[0:49:09] Trustee Patrick: And I'm not encouraging more meetings, but I know that the science working group for the Coastal Douglas Fir Project has at least one or two more meetings.

[0:49:17] Trustee Patrick: And that perhaps a coordinated meeting with us as trustees to be there and have a conversation, a brainstorming conversation, as well as where from a Coastal Douglas Fir Project, what next, how next, and help us just hear directly.

[0:49:39] Trustee Patrick: um i i i hear staff talking about the committee it's been a good group it's been has lots of

[0:49:45] Trustee Patrick: ideas um but i know i you know i'm outside of it i assume i have i don't know maybe peter's

[0:49:52] Trustee Patrick: been listening in on their meetings but uh it's been conflicted almost every time for me

[0:49:56] Trustee Patrick: um so for me i think it would be helpful to listen to the the science working group that

[0:50:04] Trustee Patrick: that has been developed to help inform us

[0:50:08] Trustee Patrick: as to how to best proceed

[0:50:11] Trustee Patrick: with the coastal Douglas fir project.

[0:50:14] Trustee Patrick: That said though, I'd like to get going

[0:50:17] Trustee Patrick: with the watershed strategic planning

[0:50:21] Trustee Patrick: because I think it's critical.

[0:50:22] Trustee Patrick: I know you suggested waiting

[0:50:25] Trustee Patrick: until we finished the trust council one.

[0:50:27] Trustee Patrick: I think there's actually a huge benefit

[0:50:29] Trustee Patrick: by proceeding concurrently

[0:50:31] Trustee Patrick: because coordinating groups is one of the strong powers

[0:50:37] Trustee Patrick: that Islands Trust has in its quiver.

[0:50:41] Trustee Patrick: And that getting SWPA to a high-functioning state,

[0:50:48] Trustee Patrick: a boat with a rudder and a navigation system,

[0:50:52] Trustee Patrick: would be a win for the overall strategic plan as well

[0:50:58] Trustee Patrick: well, because it's an exemplary process for on the ground work with the watershed protection.

[0:51:10] Trustee Patrick: So that's, I'll just leave it at that.

[0:51:13] Trustee Patrick: But I feel, and I have a couple of some fairly minor suggestions to amend Appendix 4.

[0:51:23] Trustee Patrick: And I would prefer just to get going on that, have a meeting with the Coastal Douglas Fir,

[0:51:27] Trustee Patrick: and I'm pretty confident regardless of our decisions if we proceed with the

[0:51:32] Trustee Patrick: watershed strategic planning, we're going to be talking about protection of ecosystems.

[0:51:43] Voice 3: Okay thank you Trustee Patrick. So certainly this is complex, there's lots of options here.

[0:51:54] Voice 3: I

[0:51:54] Trustee Luckham (probable): appreciate your thought there Trustee Patrick and Trustee Grove yours as also. So Jason,

[0:52:03] Trustee Luckham (probable): Do you have any thoughts with respect to contribute to what you heard here now and

[0:52:09] Trustee Luckham (probable): how it is that we might take the work that you've done in terms of options and or amendments

[0:52:18] Trustee Luckham (probable): to advance this?

[0:52:20] Trustee Grove: Before he does, I'd like to comment on Trustee Patrick's point which I

[0:52:25] Trustee Grove: I appreciate. And I understand that she doesn't support option four, which and I and that for

[0:52:34] Trustee Grove: good reasons. But it sounds to me as if you're you're endorsing the option to Laura. But you

[0:52:41] Trustee Grove: confirm that for me?

[0:52:43] Trustee Patrick: Generally, yes.

[0:52:47] Trustee Grove: Good. Well, I would I would support that. Obviously, there's

[0:52:51] Trustee Grove: there's a lot of detail behind that but that makes the most sense to me. Yeah

[0:53:01] Voice 3: okay the subtleties are

[0:53:05] Voice 3: interesting. Planner Yeomans?

[0:53:11] Voice 24: All right well I heard two things there one is that the local

[0:53:16] Voice 24: trust committee may be looking to schedule a special meeting with the CDF science working

[0:53:23] Voice 24: group. I think that certainly seems doable. I mean, I'll defer to the regional planning manager

[0:53:31] Voice 24: to tell us if there's a reason that that cannot be done. But yeah, absolutely. I think it seems

[0:53:39] Voice 24: like for you to have the opportunity to hear directly from some of the science experts in

[0:53:45] Voice 24: this regard can't be a bad thing um and and can likely be facilitated and then the second was

[0:53:58] Voice 24: from trustee patrick a desire to move forward expeditiously or as expeditiously as we do

[0:54:05] Voice 24: on the development of a larger scale um watershed plan for the island and and i

[0:54:13] Voice 24: I apologize for a bit of the schizophrenia around the naming of this document.

[0:54:18] Voice 24: It has gone through several iterations as we try and describe it in a way that we think captures what it is, which probably doesn't help with the confusion of things.

[0:54:30] Voice 24: you know on that point I guess I so there there remains a question of resourcing as you'll sort

[0:54:41] Voice 24: of see from the open-ended project charter I think and again this is more for the regional

[0:54:46] Voice 24: planning managers consideration than mine but a question of how will resources be assigned to do

[0:54:52] Voice 24: this work only because we know that the development of a more comprehensive plan will demand more

[0:54:58] Voice 24: of staff and i've observed observed this from a distance through the islands trust's greater

[0:55:05] Voice 24: freshwater freshwater sustainability strategic plan why can't i remember what that thing's called

[0:55:11] Voice 24: freshwater sustainability strategy i know that you know the planner assigned to that particular

[0:55:16] Voice 24: project does have to devote a considerable amount of her time toward its development

[0:55:20] Voice 24: development. Second of all, you'll see that I've sort of cheekily alluded in my staff report to

[0:55:28] Voice 24: the fact that the CAO was generally supportive of a scope expansion to the contractors who are

[0:55:36] Voice 24: carrying out the freshwater sustainability strategy on behalf of Islands Trust, while the

[0:55:41] Voice 24: Director of Administrative Services had reservations. That issue has now been definitively

[0:55:46] Voice 24: resolved and it is that we cannot undertake the scope expansion that we were hoping for and would

[0:55:52] Voice 24: likely have to go through a procurement process which isn't you know isn't the end of the world

[0:55:57] Voice 24: it's standard practice just adds a little bit of time to the process and third I guess was and and

[0:56:08] Voice 24: I sort of have to phrase this delicately but in in speaking with people who are subject matter

[0:56:13] Voice 24: experts in the development of such plans, they were concerned about the prospect of

[0:56:21] Voice 24: beginning a large-scale plan from the outset, rather than first biting off the smaller chunk,

[0:56:28] Voice 24: which is the situation analysis and option identification, as we've called it here,

[0:56:34] Voice 24: which is basically just a scan of the current world of watershed protection on Salt Spring

[0:56:38] Voice 24: Island. And what you get out of that is not a plan to implement, but rather a report with

[0:56:43] Voice 24: recommendations you know the subject matter experts will say well based on our observations

[0:56:48] Voice 24: and our stakeholder interviews and what we've um what we've learned here's some ways that you might

[0:56:53] Voice 24: want to consider proceeding and um so that's that's what staff have recommended here in this

[0:56:59] Voice 24: staff report uh which is um appendix one of uh of your staff report and recommendation number one

[0:57:08] Voice 24: in the staff report those those be my thoughts on that thank you chair

[0:57:18] Voice 3: okay thank you plan

[0:57:20] Voice 3: yeomans uh trustees i see trustee patrick's hand is up um

[0:57:27] Trustee Patrick: i don't disagree i mean the the whole

[0:57:33] Trustee Patrick: idea of the strategic plan was to do essentially what they're now what you're calling um

[0:57:39] Trustee Patrick: whatever something analysis there so situation analysis there we

[0:57:43] Trustee Patrick: go um however i see the two

[0:57:46] Trustee Patrick: going that a coordination body is necessary um could there or will there be recommended changes

[0:57:56] Trustee Patrick: to the structure of so but i hope so i would expect so i see it as um to me the situation

[0:58:02] Trustee Patrick: analysis is focusing on you know the the health of the ship but the ship needs the rudder and

[0:58:09] Trustee Patrick: the navigation system too where is it going and the structure needs to be coordinated so

[0:58:15] Trustee Patrick: what are we trying to do as and make sure we have the right people or organizations represented at

[0:58:24] Trustee Patrick: the table as well as you know a critical analysis of the bylaws and so forth that we have that are

[0:58:34] Trustee Patrick: shaping SWPA, you know, if we need to make modifications, I would hope those were all

[0:58:39] Trustee Patrick: recommendations that would come out of the strategic plan. How do we structure ourselves

[0:58:43] Trustee Patrick: to be successful in the implementation of the plan? So, you know, ordering what has to be done

[0:58:49] Trustee Patrick: and what order, I'm not the expert. I'm hoping, you know, that that would come. So I see the two

[0:58:55] Trustee Patrick: is part and parcel, that we need to do both. So I'm happy to use that term. I've just made it,

[0:59:03] Trustee Patrick: I've recommended just a couple of minor changes just to, I think we have to be careful that

[0:59:10] Trustee Patrick: our job isn't to go out and assess the performance of all the agencies that are out there

[0:59:14] Trustee Patrick: on Salt Spring, but rather assess SWPA as a coordinating body for those agencies. You know,

[0:59:22] Trustee Patrick: So there's a few tweaks that I would like just so that we don't create any undue concern.

[0:59:30] Trustee Patrick: Remind that we do have, we have support.

[0:59:32] Trustee Patrick: We have a board resolution from North Salt Spring Water Works to proceed with the strategic plan.

[0:59:36] Trustee Patrick: And we have endorsement from Plinro to proceed with the plan.

[0:59:40] Trustee Patrick: And so, you know, how we call it, how we structure it.

[0:59:45] Trustee Patrick: And also, this is different than the main plan for Islands Trust is an Islands Trust plan.

[0:59:50] Trustee Patrick: So, yes, staff are heavily resourced that plan.

[0:59:54] Trustee Patrick: This is a coordinated plan, and we have a coordinator who would hopefully

[1:00:00] Trustee Patrick: be devoted to do the heavy lifting part for staff, so staff would be more in a management role

[1:00:08] Trustee Patrick: of this activity. So I would hope that we could get through the resourcing issues.

[1:00:18] Trustee Grove: Excuse me Chair, if I may. We're sort of getting ahead of ourselves and

[1:00:30] Trustee Grove: my mind doesn't work that way. Can we deal with, we don't have to make final decisions,

[1:00:35] Trustee Grove: But I'd like to ensure that we're agreeing on this item that's before us right now, which is 1, 2, 3, 4, and proceed, I believe, with the option 2, which makes good sense to me.

[1:00:52] Trustee Grove: I would like the CDF forest engagement to be very clearly part of that plan.

[1:01:04] Voice 3: You just went off mute there or onto mute, Peter? Is that intended?

[1:01:09] Voice 3: no

[1:01:10] Trustee Grove: i'm can you hear me now yes

[1:01:13] Voice 3: did

[1:01:13] Trustee Grove: you not hear anything of what i said

[1:01:15] Trustee Luckham (probable): uh only maybe the first

[1:01:18] Trustee Luckham (probable): part i wasn't sure if you were finished i

[1:01:20] Trustee Grove: just would like to move in to do one step at a time

[1:01:23] Trustee Grove: and the step that's before us right now is to maybe not not as not to be a final decision but

[1:01:30] Trustee Grove: like to make a decision as to which of those four options we plan to pursue i believe it's two and

[1:01:37] Trustee Grove: And if that's the case,

[1:01:38] Trustee Grove: then I would like to move on from there.

[1:01:44] Voice 3: Okay, Trustee Patrick.

[1:01:46] Trustee Patrick: I'm also, I see not having to rush

[1:01:50] Trustee Patrick: the other Coastal Douglas for decisions today.

[1:01:52] Trustee Patrick: The science group is still working.

[1:01:54] Trustee Patrick: There's still activity occurring.

[1:01:57] Trustee Patrick: And that I'm happy to put a motion on the floor

[1:02:00] Trustee Patrick: to have us call for that special meeting

[1:02:02] Trustee Patrick: for to meet with the science working group

[1:02:05] Trustee Patrick: with the local trust committee.

[1:02:08] Trustee Grove: And I'm happy to do that.

[1:02:10] Trustee Grove: But can we just agree on this first, and then we'll get on with the other?

[1:02:17] Trustee Patrick: Yes, I'm in agreement.

[1:02:21] Trustee Grove: So do we need a motion to that effect?

[1:02:26] Voice 3: Jerry, Planner Gilman, can you assist us with how to move forward with the

[1:02:31] Trustee Luckham (probable): recommendation?

[1:02:33] Trustee Luckham (probable): I

[1:02:35] Voice 24: guess you need a motion to that effect if you believe that it needs to be specifically identified as a deliverable within the greater plan development charter or end contract ultimately with the contractor.

[1:02:54] Voice 24: factor if you're confident that you know protecting the island's ecosystems as one would

[1:03:04] Voice 24: intuit would be a likely topic of of focus and discussion in the development of the plan if you

[1:03:10] Voice 24: think it's just going to sort of bubble up organically then you don't need to make such

[1:03:15] Voice 24: a resolution um but again you know coming out of the april meeting i was sort of under the

[1:03:25] Voice 24: impression that the LTC felt that there may be stakeholders who were not being sufficiently

[1:03:33] Voice 24: engaged through the CDF project and that you were looking for opportunities to engage them,

[1:03:40] Voice 24: potentially using this watershed budget. And if that's the case, I kind of need to know

[1:03:49] Voice 24: know who they are and make sure that we do involve them in the development of the watershed plan if

[1:03:58] Voice 24: the LTC goes in that direction.

[1:04:01] Trustee Grove: Again, if I may, we're moving ahead. I agree. I do think it needs

[1:04:08] Trustee Grove: to be spelled out. The CDF forest engagement needs to be spelled out. I know it's almost certain that

[1:04:13] Trustee Grove: but it will be part of the strategic plan,

[1:04:16] Trustee Grove: but I think we need to spell it out.

[1:04:19] Trustee Grove: And certainly if additional engagement is necessary in any plan.

[1:04:24] Trustee Grove: So I just would like to nail this down so we can get on to the next sheet.

[1:04:29] Trustee Grove: Thanks.

[1:04:30] Trustee Grove: Okay. If

[1:04:30] Voice 24: that's the case, then in your staff report on page nine of the

[1:04:36] Voice 24: addendum, and apologies, I don't know how your pages are numbered here.

[1:04:40] Voice 24: um under the alternatives resolution section the second potential alternative resolution

[1:04:49] Voice 24: is to amend the project charter for the greater strategic plan which is included as appendix four

[1:05:00] Voice 24: in your agenda by adding and you can you can find the wording there in italics but it's basically

[1:05:05] Voice 24: by adding a bullet point that specifically identifies engagement engagement will include

[1:05:12] Voice 24: subject specific stakeholder engagement on cdf and associated ecosystem protection in the context of

[1:05:17] Voice 24: of watershed protection so that that is an option that's um available to you in the staff report

[1:05:24] Voice 24: well

[1:05:25] Voice 26: that makes good sense to me okay

[1:05:32] Trustee Luckham (probable): um trustee patrick anything otherwise

[1:05:35] Trustee Luckham (probable): maybe a question of clarity um

[1:05:38] Trustee Patrick: i'm happy with that i do have a few other amendments i'd like

[1:05:42] Trustee Patrick: to propose so we can either do them as separate motions or talk about it in a lump

[1:05:48] Trustee Grove: let's do let's

[1:05:50] Trustee Grove: do them separately okay

[1:05:54] Trustee Luckham (probable): so on that item on your page eight of our uh of the i'm believing that

[1:06:00] Trustee Luckham (probable): that's page eight of the staff report page nine

[1:06:03] Voice 26: peter yeah

[1:06:05] Trustee Luckham (probable): page nine of the uh addendum

[1:06:07] Trustee Luckham (probable): page eight of the staff report where it's bullet two amend first then endorse salt spring

[1:06:12] Trustee Luckham (probable): watershed watershed stewardship protection strategy 3g plan and the principle is that

[1:06:18] Trustee Luckham (probable): correct Jason perhaps yeah

[1:06:19] Trustee Luckham (probable): so there in that well I want to a couple things I want to thank you for

[1:06:25] Trustee Luckham (probable): the clarity there and I want to also thank you for recognizing the necessity to consult

[1:06:31] Trustee Luckham (probable): with stakeholders. And I will remark that I noticed considerable improvement and change

[1:06:39] Trustee Luckham (probable): in the language and expectations and presenting the information, because I think that that's

[1:06:47] Trustee Luckham (probable): important that we're genuinely wanting to consult and engage with stakeholders.

[1:06:56] Trustee Luckham (probable): holders um on that particular bulleted uh on that particular number two and the uh italicized item

[1:07:04] Trustee Luckham (probable): below it it says uh implication of this resolution is that terms of reference for the hired consultant

[1:07:10] Trustee Luckham (probable): would include this requirement and i wasn't sure where the hired consultant uh just at the moment

[1:07:18] Trustee Luckham (probable): comes into play here because there is conversation about that in item three hire an outside consultant

[1:07:25] Trustee Luckham (probable): And so can you just help me understand that part?

[1:07:29] Voice 24: Sure, thank you, Chair Luckin.

[1:07:32] Voice 24: If the LTC proceeds with development of the watershed plan

[1:07:41] Voice 24: that's sort of structured in the project charter

[1:07:44] Voice 24: that's included as appendix four of your staff report,

[1:07:49] Voice 24: it is assumed that we will be hiring an outside consultant

[1:07:55] Voice 24: consultant with expertise in the development of such watershed plans using up to $50,000 of the

[1:08:02] Voice 24: LTC's unspent special property tax requisition funds from previous years. So the development

[1:08:08] Voice 24: of this watershed plan is a project that will be undertaken by an outside consultant who will be

[1:08:15] Voice 24: brought in for the purpose. And if you amend the project charter in Appendix 4 to identify

[1:08:21] Voice 24: identify a desire to emphasize discussions around CDF and associated ecosystem protection

[1:08:28] Voice 24: then that would carry over into the terms of reference that the consultant

[1:08:33] Voice 24: does their work by.

[1:08:35] Trustee Luckham (probable): Okay so then if we're turning our mind to option two on on your screenshot there

[1:08:44] Trustee Luckham (probable): rather than option four I guess that's where I'm going is how does the consultant play out in

[1:08:50] Trustee Luckham (probable): in that option.

[1:08:53] Voice 24: That, so option two on the screen is essentially

[1:08:58] Voice 24: the italicized wording on page eight of the staff report.

[1:09:02] Voice 24: They're, you know, those are the same action basically.

[1:09:07] Trustee Luckham (probable): Okay, so thank you very much.

[1:09:09] Trustee Luckham (probable): I just, that's the clarity I wanted, that's perfect.

[1:09:11] Trustee Luckham (probable): So trustees, anything else?

[1:09:16] Trustee Luckham (probable): And do we want to talk around this

[1:09:21] Trustee Luckham (probable): as Trustee Patrick had suggested I think it was or do we want to address discrete elements of it

[1:09:30] Trustee Luckham (probable): and indeed table some motions?

[1:09:34] Trustee Grove: Personally I'd like to make this motion and then Trustee Patrick has

[1:09:39] Trustee Grove: additional ones she's going to make but I just feel that it would be tidier and easier to follow

[1:09:45] Trustee Grove: if we did that okay

[1:09:48] Trustee Luckham (probable): does that sound okay so i got a thumbs up there that's trusty

[1:09:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): i will move

[1:09:55] Trustee Grove: then if i may that the salt spring island local trust committee amend salt spring

[1:09:59] Trustee Grove: island watershed stewardship and protection strategic plan project charter vo1 attached

[1:10:06] Trustee Grove: as appendix 4 to the staff report of may 25 2021 as follows colon 1 by adding comma at the end of

[1:10:13] Trustee Grove: the third in scope bullet point in quotes engagement will include subject-specific

[1:10:18] Trustee Grove: stakeholder engagement on cdf and associated ecosystem protection in the context of watershed

[1:10:24] Trustee Grove: protection period okay

[1:10:31] Trustee Luckham (probable): very good so that's moved and seconded by trustee patrick excellent

[1:10:34] Trustee Luckham (probable): any further discussion no then let's call the vote all those in favor indeed that carries

[1:10:42] Trustee Luckham (probable): unanimously thank you how would you like to proceed trustees now trustee patrick

[1:10:48] Trustee Luckham (probable): just

[1:10:49] Trustee Patrick: had a few other they're wordy but they're minor in nature amendments to appendix four just

[1:10:56] Trustee Patrick: just to make it clear and i'll describe what they are first and i i have provided some wording

[1:11:01] Trustee Patrick: the first one just in the purpose statement i'm to be blamed i use the term decision makers because

[1:11:06] Trustee Patrick: that's what i had stolen out of the guidance material there but i think i would just recommend

[1:11:12] Trustee Patrick: just changing decision makers to be very specific salt spring island watershed protection alliance

[1:11:17] Trustee Patrick: member agencies so we know what decision makers we're talking about um and um the same in um

[1:11:27] Trustee Patrick: objective two um of the project charter changing decision makers to the same thing that that that's

[1:11:35] Trustee Patrick: the member agencies but to also add the words in objective two right now it just says advancing

[1:11:45] Trustee Patrick: effective equitable land use planning I think I think the word would be coordinating and advancing

[1:11:52] Trustee Patrick: so just add the word coordinating and advancing because I think that again is the power of

[1:11:59] Trustee Patrick: SWPA is the coordinating nature of those so I just think it just adds clarity as to

[1:12:06] Trustee Patrick: to what we're trying to do.

[1:12:09] Trustee Patrick: And then in the fifth bullet in the scope section,

[1:12:15] Trustee Patrick: I was gonna recommend that we change it

[1:12:17] Trustee Patrick: instead of saying assess current watershed stewardship

[1:12:20] Trustee Patrick: and protection bodies on the island

[1:12:22] Trustee Patrick: that we just say assess the performance of SWPA

[1:12:24] Trustee Patrick: and just be very specific.

[1:12:27] Trustee Grove: What page are we on?

[1:12:28] Trustee Grove: I'm lost.

[1:12:29] Trustee Patrick: This is appendix four.

[1:12:30] Trustee Patrick: Page 45.

[1:12:34] Trustee Patrick: Yeah.

[1:12:34] Trustee Patrick: Yeah, thank you.

[1:12:40] Trustee Patrick: So yeah, the bullet five in the in-scope section

[1:12:43] Trustee Patrick: of item one of the in-scope section says,

[1:12:47] Trustee Patrick: right now it reads assess the performance

[1:12:49] Trustee Patrick: of current watershed stewardship and protection bodies.

[1:12:53] Trustee Patrick: And I think we should just say SWPA

[1:12:55] Trustee Patrick: so that we don't create any unneeded concerns there.

[1:13:02] Trustee Patrick: And then the final is I'd like to have one additional

[1:13:05] Trustee Patrick: additional deliverable milestone to be very specific, because I think it's probably

[1:13:13] Trustee Patrick: important in that, hopefully Peter, you'd agree, is that recommendation and justification for the

[1:13:20] Trustee Patrick: 2022 or 23, is that the next fiscal budget, what the tax, special tax requisition would be? I know

[1:13:28] Trustee Patrick: it could be, it might end up being an initial, you know, when the strategic plan is all done,

[1:13:34] Trustee Patrick: it might be beyond that time period of feeding the budget cycle for next year. So I thought it'd

[1:13:41] Trustee Patrick: be very specific that we'd want an early idea as part of the plan as to what our next fiscal

[1:13:50] Trustee Patrick: requirement would be for the special tax requisition. And where are you going to capture

[1:13:57] Trustee Patrick: that? As a deliverable. At the end, it says deliverables and milestones.

[1:14:01] Trustee Luckham (probable): Yes. Okay. So you

[1:14:04] Trustee Luckham (probable): you want another item added then that is a future financial budget consideration uh

[1:14:10] Trustee Patrick: well i just said

[1:14:11] Trustee Patrick: a recommendation and justification for the 2022-23 i think that's the next the next budget

[1:14:20] Trustee Luckham (probable): that make that makes sense and so uh maybe just ask peter grove if that makes sense to him and

[1:14:27] Trustee Luckham (probable): perhaps you could just give us a motion yeah

[1:14:30] Trustee Patrick: and then i was going to say the date would be

[1:14:32] Trustee Patrick: commensurate with you know staff would have to figure out when when would that need to be

[1:14:36] Trustee Patrick: received is commensurate with when we need it well

[1:14:40] Trustee Luckham (probable): i think that's starting in september if i'm not

[1:14:42] Trustee Luckham (probable): mistaken regional plans manager mac uh

[1:14:47] Voice 16: yeah of course it starts sort of late august discussions

[1:14:50] Voice 16: but i would say the deadline i believe is october 6th so for us to get a report together so

[1:14:56] Voice 16: uh but the worst case scenario we have something ready for december okay

[1:15:00] Trustee Grove: i'm sorry to slow things

[1:15:03] Trustee Grove: is down um i am on appendix so i see nothing that refers to deliverables oh

[1:15:10] Trustee Patrick: it's on page 46

[1:15:11] Trustee Patrick: sorry underneath the says work plan overview there's a little blue box that says deliverable

[1:15:16] Trustee Patrick: milestones i

[1:15:20] Trustee Grove: have a hard copy and it doesn't um doesn't come up anywhere anyway it's paid it's

[1:15:25] Trustee Luckham (probable): page two of the um appendix four where the fifty thousand dollar total budget is at the very bottom

[1:15:32] Trustee Luckham (probable): it's at the very end there's a second box that says work plan overview deliverable milestones

[1:15:38] Trustee Grove: i've got everything except for that this is very weird anyway i

[1:15:41] Trustee Grove: won't hold it up anymore it's it

[1:15:44] Trustee Patrick: just lists out the type of things that you would expect the consultant to be providing you and um

[1:15:48] Trustee Patrick: and this i thought was a specific deliverable that would be useful to the local trust committee

[1:15:53] Trustee Grove: um if i may interrupt yet again i'm a bit confused then um because uh laura i didn't

[1:16:00] Trustee Grove: think you wanted SWPA involved in this exercise for reasons that you gave in your opening statement.

[1:16:09] Trustee Patrick: I mean this is aimed at, I mean the SWPA coordinator is there to facilitate projects

[1:16:17] Trustee Patrick: that are on the work plan. This project is on the work plan as we are the sponsoring agency

[1:16:24] Trustee Patrick: and if we need coordinated support that is a decision of SWPA to coordinate and provide that

[1:16:30] Trustee Patrick: that support to assist the project.

[1:16:33] Trustee Patrick: So that's how we receive that support.

[1:16:36] Trustee Patrick: So we exist as a entity that has this as a project

[1:16:41] Trustee Patrick: and we're the sponsor.

[1:16:46] Trustee Grove: Thank you.

[1:16:47] Trustee Luckham (probable): Do you want to make a motion there, Trustee Patrick?

[1:16:50] Trustee Luckham (probable): Sure,

[1:16:50] Trustee Patrick: I will make the motion.

[1:16:51] Trustee Patrick: I just go back and use the same wording as that one.

[1:16:54] Trustee Patrick: I had tweaked it just a tiny bit for whatever reason,

[1:16:56] Trustee Patrick: but okay.

[1:16:57] Trustee Patrick: I move that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee

[1:17:00] Trustee Patrick: endorse, oh, sorry, I moved to the wrong one.

[1:17:06] Trustee Patrick: I jumped to the wrong spot.

[1:17:07] Trustee Patrick: I move that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee

[1:17:10] Trustee Patrick: amend Salt Spring Island Watershed Stewardship

[1:17:12] Trustee Patrick: and Protection Strategic Plan Project Charter

[1:17:14] Trustee Patrick: version 0.1 attached as appendix four

[1:17:17] Trustee Patrick: to the staff report of May 25th, 2021 as follows.

[1:17:24] Trustee Patrick: Change the words in the purpose statement,

[1:17:27] Trustee Patrick: decision makers to Salt Spring Island

[1:17:30] Trustee Patrick: Watershed Protection Alliance agencies,

[1:17:33] Trustee Patrick: member agencies.

[1:17:34] Trustee Patrick: sorry i can't even read my own writing second point uh change the words in objective to

[1:17:41] Trustee Patrick: decision makers to salt spring island watershed protection alliance member agencies and add the

[1:17:49] Trustee Patrick: words coordinating and before the word advancing so it reads to better support salt spring island

[1:17:57] Trustee Patrick: watershed protection alliance member agencies and coordinating and advancing effective equitable

[1:18:02] Trustee Patrick: and modernized land use and water use planning dot dot dot and then the next bullet our next

[1:18:10] Trustee Patrick: point is change the fifth bullet in the scope section item one to read assess the performance

[1:18:17] Trustee Patrick: of SWPA by deleting the words current watershed stewardship and protection bodies on salt spring

[1:18:23] Trustee Patrick: island and finally add an additional deliverable and milestone recommendation and justification

[1:18:31] Trustee Patrick: for the 2022-23 special tax requisition amount with a due date commensurate with the trust

[1:18:38] Trustee Patrick: council budget process can

[1:18:45] Voice 3: we get that up on the screen um i

[1:18:49] Trustee Patrick: did send it to sarah

[1:18:51] Voice 24: just let me stop

[1:18:52] Voice 24: my screen share i'm hogging it at the moment hi

[1:19:06] Voice 12: chair luckham can you see that now dan

[1:19:09] Trustee Luckham (probable): yes okay

[1:19:10] Voice 12: so

[1:19:15] Trustee Luckham (probable): is that what you have in mind there um trustee patrick i'm assuming that's what yes

[1:19:20] Trustee Patrick: i hope i hope

[1:19:21] Trustee Patrick: that makes sense to see if staff is does that make sense i've suggested it's a lot of work

[1:19:28] Trustee Patrick: not very much change yeah

[1:19:32] Trustee Luckham (probable): i i'm just puzzling a little bit about the dot dot dots at the end of

[1:19:37] Trustee Luckham (probable): the item b use planning dot dot dot seems less than precise for emotion but uh

[1:19:46] Trustee Patrick: it's just how

[1:19:47] Trustee Patrick: how this section would read and the the the remaining part of that writing didn't change

[1:19:54] Trustee Luckham (probable): yeah so if we're if we're satisfied with that if maybe staff have any concern because of course

[1:20:02] Trustee Luckham (probable): this is the work that we're directing staff to undertake um um oh i see so we've now removed

[1:20:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): the dot dot dot so maybe that seems appropriate um i okay so jason did you have anything to say

[1:20:15] Trustee Luckham (probable): you just agreed with the removal of the dot dot dot no

[1:20:18] Voice 24: i i just had one comment with respect to

[1:20:20] Voice 24: the the resolutions proposed if i

[1:20:23] Voice 24: may and that's the so uh resolution d um rather than putting that

[1:20:31] Voice 24: as one of the milestones um the way the the project would be structured under this project

[1:20:38] Voice 24: charter is that you would the ltc would still be getting sort of the consultant scan of of the

[1:20:46] Voice 24: general field of watershed protection as a first deliverable in this it was it was sort of laid out

[1:20:53] Voice 24: as as a two-part two-part deliverables one is the situation analysis and option identification and

[1:21:00] Voice 24: then two building on that is the development of a of a more robust plan and so rather than putting

[1:21:06] Voice 24: the recommendations related to the special tax requisition as a as a specific deliverable and

[1:21:14] Voice 24: milestone you can tack it on as a bullet point to the in scope of the situation analysis and

[1:21:21] Voice 24: option identification so that when the LTC receives this first package of information

[1:21:26] Voice 24: from the consultant which was which is actually timed to coincide with our deadlines to start

[1:21:33] Voice 24: providing information to trust council around the next fiscal year budget we anticipate that

[1:21:38] Voice 24: the LTC would receive this report at its October 2021 meeting, this first deliverable from the

[1:21:44] Voice 24: consultants, and that could include their recommendations around the special property

[1:21:48] Voice 24: tax requisition. That's a minor point for your discussion.

[1:21:57] Trustee Luckham (probable): Okay, and I see that Sarah, thank you,

[1:22:00] Trustee Luckham (probable): has been creatively editing the motion, which I don't believe has been seconded yet.

[1:22:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): no it's in scope

[1:22:09] Trustee Patrick: section one Sarah

[1:22:11] Trustee Luckham (probable): that's all there's

[1:22:13] Trustee Patrick: two points in in scope

[1:22:15] Trustee Luckham (probable): so does that

[1:22:17] Trustee Luckham (probable): meet your the intent of the motion uh trustee Patrick I'm

[1:22:21] Trustee Patrick: I'm fine with that it was just more

[1:22:23] Trustee Patrick: to make sure we got that information in a timely manner to inform us for next year no

[1:22:29] Trustee Luckham (probable): and I agree

[1:22:30] Trustee Luckham (probable): with that that's good um and that I'm glad that we've found a place appropriate place to put it so

[1:22:35] Trustee Luckham (probable): So Jason, that satisfies your concern there as well.

[1:22:39] Trustee Luckham (probable): All right, so I'll give you all a moment

[1:22:42] Trustee Luckham (probable): just to read through that one more time

[1:22:44] Trustee Luckham (probable): and say that the motion has been moved.

[1:22:46] Trustee Luckham (probable): Do I have a seconder?

[1:22:47] Voice 26: Yes, you do.

[1:22:49] Trustee Luckham (probable): Trustee Grove is seconded.

[1:22:53] Trustee Luckham (probable): And any further discussion?

[1:22:57] Trustee Luckham (probable): Then I'll call for the vote.

[1:22:58] Trustee Luckham (probable): All those in favor?

[1:23:01] Trustee Luckham (probable): And that two carries.

[1:23:02] Trustee Luckham (probable): Thank you for that thoughtfulness there, Trustee Patrick,

[1:23:07] Trustee Luckham (probable): and getting that prepared for us.

[1:23:10] Trustee Luckham (probable): What else do we have here?

[1:23:12] Trustee Luckham (probable): Trustee Patrick.

[1:23:12] Trustee Patrick: Well, we have to endorse.

[1:23:14] Trustee Patrick: I think there was their alternative language

[1:23:17] Trustee Patrick: was put there on page nine to endorse it in principle.

[1:23:23] Voice 15: I'm

[1:23:24] Trustee Patrick: happy to make that motion

[1:23:25] Trustee Patrick: that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee

[1:23:27] Trustee Patrick: endorse in principle the amended Salt Spring Island

[1:23:29] Trustee Patrick: Watershed Stewardship and Protection Strategic Plan

[1:23:32] Trustee Patrick: project charter version 0.1 attached as appendix four

[1:23:35] Trustee Patrick: to the staff report dated may 25th uh 2021 i guess as amended has to be in there somewhere

[1:23:41] Trustee Patrick: um project charter as amended or wherever wherever as amended fits yeah

[1:23:46] Voice 3: just at the tail end that

[1:23:47] Voice 3: would tail

[1:23:47] Trustee Patrick: fence fine yeah

[1:23:51] Voice 3: uh is that a seconding trustee grove or okay and is there yours to speak

[1:23:57] Voice 3: to it further trustee patrick

[1:23:58] Trustee Patrick: no i mean i i i completely understand i am of staff resources

[1:24:04] Trustee Patrick: and so forth and I just for that we find a way to make this work and that we can utilize the

[1:24:09] Trustee Patrick: coordinator to the extent possible to you know help facilitate and support this work. Okay

[1:24:19] Trustee Luckham (probable): Trustee Grove any discussion? Then I'll call for the vote. All those in favor? Any opposed? None

[1:24:28] Trustee Luckham (probable): opposed? So that carries also. Now is there anything else in this list of recommendations

[1:24:34] Trustee Luckham (probable): that we need to conduct today, Trustee Patrick.

[1:24:39] Trustee Patrick: Did we need, sorry, did we make the motion

[1:24:42] Trustee Patrick: to have the special meeting?

[1:24:44] Trustee Patrick: I can't remember.

[1:24:45] Trustee Luckham (probable): No, we have not.

[1:24:46] Trustee Patrick: Good, because I was like, I guess I need another cup

[1:24:49] Trustee Patrick: of coffee because I can't, I couldn't remember.

[1:24:53] Trustee Patrick: So I'm happy to make that motion

[1:24:55] Trustee Patrick: because I think that would be informative.

[1:24:57] Trustee Patrick: So I move that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee

[1:24:59] Trustee Patrick: direct staff to schedule a special joint meeting

[1:25:01] Trustee Patrick: of the Coastal Douglas Fir Science Working Group

[1:25:04] Trustee Patrick: and the salt spring island local trust committee to discuss possible next steps to the coastal

[1:25:08] Trustee Patrick: douglas for an associated ecosystem protection project all

[1:25:15] Voice 3: right so that's moved by trustee

[1:25:17] Voice 3: patrick and trustee grove has seconded that motion um

[1:25:21] Trustee Luckham (probable): do you happen to have that up on the screen

[1:25:23] Trustee Luckham (probable): sarah just for the public's benefit thank

[1:25:33] Voice 3: you very much so that seems correct so

[1:25:38] Trustee Luckham (probable): moved and seconded

[1:25:39] Trustee Luckham (probable): staff any concerns timing otherwise no all right then so trustee patchy used to speak to the motion

[1:25:47] Trustee Luckham (probable): i

[1:25:47] Trustee Patrick: just um it's exciting times there's still a lot of grants and um as as peter luckham knows i we

[1:25:54] Trustee Patrick: had a past resolution under our last executive meeting that we asked staff to look at ways of

[1:26:01] Trustee Patrick: supporting and partnering with various organizations on the nature smart climate solutions fund that's

[1:26:07] Trustee Patrick: going to have a grant intake in the fall. It's a $631 million federal grant aimed at climate change

[1:26:14] Trustee Patrick: and in particular forests and forest protection. And so I think those are things that we need to

[1:26:20] Trustee Patrick: keep in our mind. And when we're thinking of 5,000 here, 10,000 here to do something,

[1:26:25] Trustee Patrick: this is potentially something significant that we could align ourselves with to work on. So

[1:26:32] Trustee Patrick: So I think there's value, and I think many of the people on the science task force are involved in partnering on some of the work that's going to be going after this grant.

[1:26:43] Trustee Grove: If I may?

[1:26:45] Voice 3: Yes, please.

[1:26:47] Trustee Grove: I'm a bit confused in this motion that we're now, we're still talking about the Coastal Douglas Heron Associated Ecosystem Protection Project.

[1:26:54] Trustee Grove: Surely this is all part of the Watershed Stewardship Project now.

[1:26:59] Trustee Grove: I

[1:27:03] Trustee Patrick: was circling back to, there's a number of recommended items on the Coastal Douglas Fir.

[1:27:12] Trustee Patrick: I'm hoping that we could hold off on making those decisions and to meet with the science

[1:27:18] Trustee Patrick: group and widen our thoughts of where we could go with the Coastal Douglas Fir.

[1:27:26] Voice 3: I'm sure.

[1:27:27] Voice 3: But how does that answer the point that Peter Grove has raised is that

[1:27:33] Trustee Luckham (probable): technically, I suppose

[1:27:34] Trustee Luckham (probable): I suppose the Coastal Douglas fir project is now embraced

[1:27:37] Trustee Luckham (probable): within the Watershed

[1:27:39] Voice 3: Protection Project, no?

[1:27:46] Trustee Grove: Stefan's got an answer.

[1:27:47] Voice 3: Ah, Stefan, brilliant, thank you, sir.

[1:27:51] Voice 16: Sorry, thank you, Mr. Chair.

[1:27:52] Voice 16: I just really wanted to jump in here

[1:27:54] Voice 16: just for everybody's clarity, as I understand it,

[1:27:57] Voice 16: because I'll be sort of conducting the resources there.

[1:27:59] Voice 16: The LTC has not decided to cancel

[1:28:02] Voice 16: or really amend the Coastal Douglas fir ecosystem project.

[1:28:06] Voice 16: It is merely a signed engagement

[1:28:09] Voice 16: about Coastal Douglas Fir within the watershed project

[1:28:12] Voice 16: at this moment and a resolution to have a meeting

[1:28:15] Voice 16: to discuss further.

[1:28:16] Voice 16: So you still have very much in a live program

[1:28:18] Voice 16: of Coastal Douglas Fir just you're gonna do some engagement

[1:28:22] Voice 16: about it within the water sustainability project.

[1:28:24] Trustee Luckham (probable): Okay.

[1:28:25] Trustee Grove: Thank you for clarifying that, that's helpful.

[1:28:28] Trustee Luckham (probable): Yeah, that's exactly what I want to hear.

[1:28:30] Trustee Luckham (probable): So that's great.

[1:28:31] Trustee Luckham (probable): So then therefore is that moved and seconded Trustee Giroux?

[1:28:35] Trustee Luckham (probable): Any further discussion?

[1:28:37] Trustee Luckham (probable): All those in favor?

[1:28:40] Trustee Luckham (probable): none opposed. That carries unanimously. Excellent. So is there anything further on this

[1:28:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): report project that we have in front of us?

[1:28:58] Trustee Grove: While we think of that, poor trustee Patrick

[1:29:01] Trustee Grove: needed a second cup of coffee, and I wouldn't mind grabbing one. A five-minute break to grab

[1:29:06] Trustee Grove: a coffee would be very much welcomed.

[1:29:09] Trustee Luckham (probable): Okay. I've got a number of balls that have ended up being

[1:29:12] Trustee Luckham (probable): thrown into the air this morning which requires a little bit of attention so can we just pause

[1:29:18] Trustee Luckham (probable): for 10 minutes and that'll allow me to deal with what might be some urgent issues and then

[1:29:23] Trustee Luckham (probable): i'll come back and then we'll reconvene at let's just say we'll convene reconvene at five minutes

[1:29:28] Trustee Luckham (probable): after 11. And we'll continue with the rest of the agenda. Thank you, everybody.

[1:38:23] Trustee Luckham (probable): All right, here we are at 11.05.

[1:38:27] Trustee Luckham (probable): Looks like our seats are populated by trustees anyway.

[1:38:35] Trustee Luckham (probable): So welcome back everybody and for the public's benefit,

[1:38:40] Trustee Luckham (probable): this is the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee meeting

[1:38:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): of May the 25th and we've conducted quite a bit

[1:38:49] Trustee Luckham (probable): of what business we had to conduct today

[1:38:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): already this morning.

[1:38:55] Trustee Luckham (probable): My computer's making some funny noises to do with my phones.

[1:39:01] Trustee Luckham (probable): Excuse me while I move them.

[1:39:06] Trustee Luckham (probable): Yeah, and so here we are.

[1:39:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): We're at Section 9.

[1:39:10] Trustee Luckham (probable): Our own page is in the addendum.

[1:39:12] Trustee Luckham (probable): Actually, it was the Water Sustainability Project.

[1:39:15] Trustee Luckham (probable): And, of course, my name is Peter Lockham.

[1:39:17] Trustee Luckham (probable): I'm elected on Thetis, and I'm your chair.

[1:39:19] Trustee Luckham (probable): And we have Trustee Patrick and Trustee Grove on Salt Spring with us today,

[1:39:23] Trustee Luckham (probable): as well as all of our terrific staff supporting us today and of course all

[1:39:28] Trustee Luckham (probable): very grateful to live in Coast Salish territory which the Sun is breaking out

[1:39:32] Trustee Luckham (probable): here and it looks like it's going to be a lovely afternoon. So let us go to 9.2

[1:39:37] Trustee Luckham (probable): there was an item added to the agenda was just a verbal report on the status

[1:39:44] Trustee Luckham (probable): of the other projects if I'm not mistaken brought that additional item

[1:39:48] Trustee Luckham (probable): was brought to us by Trustee Patrick do you have any specifics Trustee Patrick

[1:39:52] Trustee Luckham (probable): if you'd like to know i

[1:39:53] Trustee Patrick: just know there's been activity i just wanted just a very high level

[1:39:56] Trustee Patrick: kind of i hear i hear the task forces are up and running i haven't had the opportunity to watch

[1:40:01] Trustee Patrick: them so it's just a high level high level hello hello louisa right

[1:40:07] Trustee Luckham (probable): louise i see you uh come on

[1:40:09] Trustee Luckham (probable): to the screen so i'm guessing that you're happy to uh answer those questions go ahead nice to see

[1:40:14] Trustee Luckham (probable): you this morning thank

[1:40:16] Voice 2: you chair and uh trustees um i just have a really brief update for you i

[1:40:22] Voice 2: I just realized I have to provide an update this morning,

[1:40:25] Voice 2: so I'm not quite prepared for anything at length.

[1:40:28] Voice 2: Having said that, we are working on bringing

[1:40:31] Voice 2: a more formal presentation to the trustees

[1:40:36] Voice 2: either in June or July, but likely in June

[1:40:40] Voice 2: on the two projects.

[1:40:41] Voice 2: So glad to know it's only a high level

[1:40:45] Voice 2: you want to know at this point.

[1:40:47] Voice 2: I can certainly share with you on the,

[1:40:49] Voice 2: first of all, the Ganges Village.

[1:40:51] Voice 2: The task force have met twice. The first one is largely with the orientation on all the legal protocol and conflict of interest and things like that, and also the general overview of the project.

[1:41:07] Voice 2: The second one was pretty interesting, there are lots of brainstorming already.

[1:41:13] Voice 2: The first one actually, at the first meeting, one of the members did ask us staff to review

[1:41:21] Voice 2: a report that was done in 2007 and identify all the items listed, recommendation and policies,

[1:41:31] Voice 2: what have been implemented and what have not.

[1:41:35] Voice 2: that was a very laborious exercise and we completed that and we sent a copy to them

[1:41:43] Voice 2: and so just for the information so they understand what needs to be done and in the next uh i guess

[1:41:51] Voice 2: the next step uh they at the last meeting we actually explore explore um potential area

[1:41:59] Voice 2: of time boundary. We talk about vision statement. And so at the next meeting and the update to the

[1:42:07] Voice 2: trustee, we will have more concrete, I guess, discussion on those items. We can bring it to you.

[1:42:15] Voice 2: And so that's kind of the general summary for the Ganges Task Force. One thing I do want to

[1:42:24] Voice 2: share with you we found it very exciting and very fun is we are sharing the project more the visual

[1:42:32] Voice 2: side kind of activities with the school and so i just got an update from the teacher who is leading

[1:42:40] Voice 2: the project telling me that the kids are really enjoying it so that's great we have art council

[1:42:46] Voice 2: talk about potentially combining the effort um i don't know i don't want to say that's what they're

[1:42:53] Voice 2: going to do, but it sounded like perhaps the Arts Council can find a time to display the work of the

[1:42:59] Voice 2: students. I'm not really sure how they want to go about doing it. So it's pretty exciting on the

[1:43:05] Voice 2: Ganges. The Housing Task Force, Housing Action Program Task Force, which just the first meeting

[1:43:14] Voice 2: was on Thursday. So it's the first meeting. They've gone through the orientations. They ask

[1:43:20] Voice 2: questions and it's pretty general. We did share the working groups report. We

[1:43:31] Voice 2: also share the Gabriela's report, the summary, and for them to digest and we

[1:43:39] Voice 2: can certainly talk about that at the next meeting. And so that's a two task

[1:43:46] Voice 2: force and the technical working group also met once. Again it's really just

[1:43:52] Voice 2: very general information sharing. BC Transit took the lead in doing the

[1:43:57] Voice 2: survey and I think everybody got the survey and so essentially just help them

[1:44:04] Voice 2: to develop a study and just to look to see how to serve South Spring Island.

[1:44:12] Voice 2: they were asking members on the technical group which have different ministry staff just to see

[1:44:20] Voice 2: if they have some shape files to share with us so we can incorporate on our GIS database so those

[1:44:26] Voice 2: are kind of the general update for now for those three meetings that we facilitate and we have to

[1:44:33] Voice 2: prepare to meet with them. We do have other side meetings, orientation for the chair and vice chair

[1:44:40] Voice 2: for the two task force. And staff being just on the background, we are doing a lot of the research

[1:44:48] Voice 2: and we finished reading the Gabriela's survey report and coordinate a little bit with the staff

[1:44:57] Voice 2: on the in the office so there are a lot of activities behind we are working on we take over

[1:45:07] Voice 2: the first nations chapter so we're starting to figure it out how to incorporate the policy

[1:45:15] Voice 2: statement all the important key elements for the first nations chapters we are looking at the

[1:45:23] Voice 2: introduction for Ganges Village and all of that we share with the task force so there's a lot of

[1:45:29] Voice 2: actually many pieces happening in the background and I think it's easier once we can put in a

[1:45:35] Voice 2: PowerPoint presentation and just show the LTC at the next meeting more of the in-depth update.

[1:45:45] Voice 2: I'll be happy to answer questions.

[1:45:49] Voice 3: Thank you, Louisa. Trustee Patrick?

[1:45:51] Voice 3: Thank

[1:45:52] Trustee Patrick: you so much. That's exactly what I just wanted to hear. And I am excited to see things getting going. And the reason why I wanted to ask is I'm very cognizant that when Gabriola's housing, whatever they called it, advisory planning commission, I think that's what it's called, ended up kind of walking outside of the Islands Trust to do their work.

[1:46:15] Trustee Patrick: And I don't want to see that happen here. I want to see our task forces feeling engaged, part of the process. And that, you know, so that's just highest concern to me. So I just want to make sure that, you know, we're considering that. And I would encourage staff if there's, you know, if we need, I know we've created the guardrails of all the projects that we've created, but we created those guardrails.

[1:46:39] Trustee Patrick: We can move them if it's creating any concerns with, you know, with the work that needs to be done, because I think there's some fantastic people in our community that are giving up time to work on this issue, and it's an exciting time and an opportunity.

[1:47:02] Voice 3: Trustee Grove?

[1:47:04] Trustee Grove: No, thank you. I appreciated the report also. And, you know, part of me thinks that Laura and I and or I should be able to sit in on these meetings as a matter of course. I'm not sure about that, though. It's just a thought.

[1:47:22] Voice 3: Planner Garbo?

[1:47:25] Voice 2: My understanding is all those meetings are public meetings.

[1:47:29] Voice 2: But for trustees, I understand for the Local Government Act and the Community Charter is that you don't participate or influence the members.

[1:47:38] Voice 2: But it's open to the public.

[1:47:40] Trustee Grove: Yeah, no, I wasn't suggesting we participate.

[1:47:43] Trustee Grove: But so notices of those meetings, if you're putting them together, I'd like to have a copy if I might.

[1:47:52] Voice 2: Do you mean the agenda or the meeting minutes? Because they're both available.

[1:47:57] Trustee Grove: Both. When the agenda goes out, I'd like to have a copy of it so that I know it's happening,

[1:48:02] Trustee Grove: and I can then choose to participate or not as I see fit.

[1:48:06] Voice 2: Okay, sure. We can do that.

[1:48:12] Trustee Luckham (probable): I'm sorry, just getting my charger. My battery is just

[1:48:15] Trustee Luckham (probable): the independent wants me to shut down. Anyway, thank you for that answer, Planner Garbo.

[1:48:26] Trustee Luckham (probable): Indeed, the electronic meeting aspect of these things, certainly, although participating is

[1:48:34] Trustee Luckham (probable): probably the wrong word, but certainly observing the meetings is something that we have historically

[1:48:39] Trustee Luckham (probable): done in these kinds of situations. When we're not actually in the same room, we don't have

[1:48:44] Trustee Luckham (probable): to stipulate the trustees not sit together where they might be making decisions together and so in

[1:48:50] Trustee Luckham (probable): a virtual world um we're we're fully apart and you wouldn't be chatting back and forth either

[1:48:55] Trustee Luckham (probable): i presume so um i think it's uh is valuable for trustees to hear the subtleties of the

[1:49:02] Trustee Luckham (probable): conversation so and i may or may not also listen in um for the record okay so if we can get that

[1:49:11] Trustee Luckham (probable): information would be great. Anything else on this additional agenda item here with respect to

[1:49:20] Trustee Luckham (probable): projects? Is there anything else you want to share with us, Louisa or Trustee Patrick or Trustee

[1:49:24] Trustee Luckham (probable): Grove? Any other questions? No, no, no. Okay. Well, really appreciate Planner Garbo for you

[1:49:32] Trustee Luckham (probable): rising to the last minute challenge of addressing us today. Realize that you would not have been

[1:49:37] Trustee Luckham (probable): prepared for that but appreciate you taking the time and providing us a very informative

[1:49:42] Trustee Luckham (probable): um a bit of information so with that said then we're now ready to go into an in-camera

[1:49:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): uh session i'm just looking at the rest of the agenda here um we do have trustee reports and

[1:49:57] Trustee Luckham (probable): correspondence um normally and i don't see that on this and oh yeah break until noon so i think

[1:50:05] Trustee Luckham (probable): actually our timing is almost perfect so let's um go through the uh motion to close the meeting to

[1:50:13] Trustee Luckham (probable): the public and then i would suggest that we will return at noon for uh trustee uh and regional

[1:50:21] Trustee Luckham (probable): director reports and correspondence um we have one delegation and then there'll be opportunity

[1:50:26] Trustee Luckham (probable): for town hall and a number of other items in a new business so uh let's get a motion

[1:50:33] Trustee Luckham (probable): I

[1:50:34] Trustee Patrick: can proceed that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee close this meeting to the public

[1:50:38] Trustee Patrick: subject to community charter section 91 a personal information about identify identifiable individual

[1:50:46] Trustee Patrick: who holds or is being considered for a position as an officer employee agent of the municipality or

[1:50:52] Trustee Patrick: another position appointed by the municipality and e the acquisition disposition and expropriation

[1:50:59] Trustee Patrick: of land or improvements if the council considers that disclosure could reasonably be expected to

[1:51:04] Trustee Patrick: harm the interests of the municipality and that staff be invited to remain

[1:51:07] Trustee Grove: i'll second that

[1:51:09] Trustee Grove: moved

[1:51:11] Trustee Luckham (probable): and seconded and any discussion all those in favor that carries and so um we'll just need

[1:51:20] Voice 18: a moment to do the technical updates thank

[1:51:23] Trustee Luckham (probable): thank you rob so you'll look after turning everything

[1:51:27] Trustee Luckham (probable): everything off and then we'll continue.

[2:12:07] Voice 3: Okay, good afternoon, everybody.

[2:12:09] Trustee Patrick: Excuse me, before we start, Rob, can you send Gary Holman

[2:12:13] Trustee Patrick: an invite again? He needs it. Oh, and I guess his Gmail account. I'll send it to you. Sorry.

[2:12:23] Trustee Luckham (probable): That's all right. We'll begin and await Gary's attendance. So good afternoon, everyone. My name

[2:12:37] Trustee Luckham (probable): is Peter Luckum. I'm the chair of the Sultana Local Trust Committee and we've just recessed

[2:12:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): and returned from lunch. We've conducted some administrative business this morning

[2:12:50] Trustee Luckham (probable): and I'm grateful to have that opportunity. Just want to acknowledge that we're meeting

[2:12:57] Trustee Luckham (probable): across the Salish Sea, myself here on Thetis Island in the Laiaks and Penelakut territory

[2:13:05] Trustee Luckham (probable): and your local uh trustees um and i see director holman has joined us also on salt spring island

[2:13:13] Trustee Luckham (probable): excuse me and um we're all very grateful to be here on coast salish uh territory to conduct the

[2:13:22] Trustee Luckham (probable): business of the islands trust um we did have an in-camera session prior to going to the break

[2:13:30] Trustee Luckham (probable): break and just want to rise and report the following. The Salt Spring Island Local Trust

[2:13:39] Trustee Luckham (probable): Committee has appointed Macon Bordelot, Daniel Wood, Amber Anderson, Stanley Shapiro, James

[2:13:49] Trustee Luckham (probable): James Back, Kerry Crolox, Mayor Kraynoff, Nima Ghermody, Yvonne Saunders, Jessica Terizakis,

[2:14:01] Trustee Luckham (probable): Bryce Chapman, and Ronan Heintzman to the Housing Action Program's task force.

[2:14:09] Trustee Luckham (probable): And want to thank you all for volunteering and joining us in this important work.

[2:14:16] Trustee Luckham (probable): I also would like to rise and report that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee

[2:14:26] Trustee Luckham (probable): has also appointed an additional member to the Housing Action Program Task Force.

[2:14:36] Trustee Luckham (probable): And I apologize that name is not in front of me here, just bear with me a second.

[2:14:42] Trustee Luckham (probable): and um you know something i've raised rose and reported on the wrong item uh that was from the

[2:14:55] Trustee Luckham (probable): minutes of the previous meeting um i apologize sorry um i'm going to start again uh ignore what

[2:15:05] Trustee Luckham (probable): i just said that um the salt spangana local trust committee has reappointed jeff thompson

[2:15:09] Trustee Luckham (probable): jean borard neil morey and francine carlin to the advisory planning commission for a further two

[2:15:17] Trustee Luckham (probable): two years. The Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee has appointed Maria Wellman, Ron Cook,

[2:15:24] Trustee Luckham (probable): Leah Large, Elisa Poole to the Advisory Planning Commission for also for a period of two years.

[2:15:30] Trustee Luckham (probable): And the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee has reappointed Ken Byron, Brie Eagle, Conrad

[2:15:35] Trustee Luckham (probable): Pilon, and Jan Steinman to the Agricultural, I think it's Jan Steinman to the Agricultural

[2:15:41] Trustee Luckham (probable): Advisory Planning Commission for a further two years. The Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee

[2:15:49] Trustee Luckham (probable): has appointed Nathan Robertson to the Agriculture Advisory Planning Commission for a period of two

[2:15:55] Trustee Luckham (probable): years and then just for the record the LTC would like to thank Advisory Planning Commissioners

[2:16:00] Trustee Luckham (probable): Margaret Squires, Susan Hannon, Jen Stetham and Richard Hayden as well as Advisory Planning

[2:16:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): Commissioner Ruth Waldeck for their service to the community and the Allen's Trust and I thank you

[2:16:13] Trustee Luckham (probable): for that. The other appointment that we've done today is an additional position on the housing

[2:16:21] Trustee Luckham (probable): task force and I'm just going to have to get myself caught up on the agenda here to

[2:16:30] Voice 3: get us to that.

[2:16:39] Voice 3: for the delay. Oops, that

[2:16:47] Trustee Luckham (probable): didn't work out. Oh, well, that's not working out for me. Page

[2:17:07] Trustee Luckham (probable): 41. Sorry. Right. So the Salisbury-On-Local Trust Committee appointed Jennifer Mack-Semmett

[2:17:17] Trustee Luckham (probable): to the vacant seat on the Ganges Village Planning Task Force and want to thank Jennifer for

[2:17:25] Trustee Luckham (probable): for stepping up and helping us out with that work.

[2:17:30] Trustee Luckham (probable): And that completes that rise in report

[2:17:33] Trustee Luckham (probable): from the in-camera session.

[2:17:37] Trustee Luckham (probable): So with that said, now we'll continue on with trustees

[2:17:39] Trustee Luckham (probable): and chairs and the regional directors reports

[2:17:41] Trustee Luckham (probable): as well as correspondence.

[2:17:45] Trustee Luckham (probable): And we'll start with the trustees

[2:17:47] Trustee Luckham (probable): and who wants to go first this morning?

[2:17:49] Trustee Luckham (probable): Director Holman, did you have come to you in a moment or?

[2:17:54] Voice 23: Peter um could I give my report briefly I have to run off for a meeting um my apologies um

[2:18:03] Voice 23: but yeah it'll only take me a couple of minutes and

[2:18:09] Trustee Luckham (probable): I'm I get thumbs up from the your two local trustees so uh director Holman

[2:18:14] Trustee Luckham (probable): capital regional district director go ahead

[2:18:17] Voice 23: thanks very much Peter and and as always thanks

[2:18:20] Voice 23: Thanks for letting me participate in these town halls.

[2:18:24] Voice 23: So the fire district has just announced that it hopes to go to referendum for a new public safety building in the fall.

[2:18:34] Voice 23: We'll, you know, fingers crossed.

[2:18:36] Voice 23: We'll see if they can make that timing.

[2:18:40] Voice 23: The CRD is working with them.

[2:18:42] Voice 23: But just I would urge everyone in the in the community to support a new public safety building on Salt Spring.

[2:18:53] Voice 23: We desperately need that. And we're discussing the co-location of an emergency operations center.

[2:19:00] Voice 23: Both those facilities right now are not in earthquake proof buildings.

[2:19:04] Voice 23: things. So really hoping if we do go to referendum this fall, the public will support this

[2:19:15] Voice 23: initiative. As you know, Crest is working with Rogers on the new tower at Channel Ridge. And

[2:19:23] Voice 23: again, just hoping the public, I know all the first responders have weighed in and let the

[2:19:30] Voice 23: the local trust committee know their support

[2:19:32] Voice 23: and hoping the trust committee will concur

[2:19:36] Voice 23: about the need for improving emergency telecommunications

[2:19:41] Voice 23: in the north and west part of the island.

[2:19:44] Voice 23: The trust has requested input

[2:19:49] Voice 23: from the Salt Spring Transportation Commission

[2:19:52] Voice 23: on the El Loco-Taco development permit.

[2:19:56] Voice 23: We did a site visit there yesterday

[2:19:58] Voice 23: today with some of the commissioners

[2:20:01] Voice 23: and we'll be considering recommendations

[2:20:03] Voice 23: at our next meeting.

[2:20:04] Voice 23: I think it's next Monday or Tuesday.

[2:20:08] Voice 23: And I think we'll see what the commission recommends,

[2:20:14] Voice 23: but the discussion leads me to think that the,

[2:20:23] Voice 23: we should be thinking more than just about parking there,

[2:20:26] Voice 23: that parking but also pedestrian and cycling safety for that whole corner needs to be thought

[2:20:32] Voice 23: about as a package and ideally it would fit with the trust ganji's village uh plan but but i'm

[2:20:39] Voice 23: assuming the trust committee wants to have a resolution on this corner uh sooner rather than

[2:20:45] Voice 23: later so uh the commission will be looking at that issue from that broader perspective and will

[2:20:52] Voice 23: We'll engage folks from Partners Creating Pathways,

[2:20:56] Voice 23: for example, to assist with some,

[2:20:59] Voice 23: at least some conceptual thinking on that.

[2:21:03] Voice 23: We need to be thinking about more than just parking there.

[2:21:08] Voice 23: And just to let folks know that at the CRD board meeting

[2:21:15] Voice 23: coming up Wednesday, we'll be considering a notion of modus,

[2:21:22] Voice 23: A motion of notice.

[2:21:26] Voice 23: How's that?

[2:21:29] Voice 23: First meeting today.

[2:21:32] Voice 23: A notice of motion urging the provincial government to implement its old growth strategy.

[2:21:40] Voice 23: And of course, this has implications for the Ferry Creek patchy dad issue.

[2:21:45] Voice 23: So I'm one of the directors that's co-sponsoring that.

[2:21:48] Voice 23: If people want to support that motion,

[2:21:50] Voice 23: motion um uh they can write the crd board at crd board all one word at crd.bc.ca and just finally

[2:21:59] Voice 23: um the transit uh the transportation commission along with bc transit is reviewing our

[2:22:07] Voice 23: our transit system and will be uh considering recommendations made by uh the working group

[2:22:15] Voice 23: set up by bc transit probably this summer um it's looking like in in just very broad

[2:22:21] Voice 23: general terms our our existing strategy for expanding the system is uh based on a public

[2:22:28] Voice 23: survey is still holding water as as it were but um we'll be making recommendations for

[2:22:35] Voice 23: improvements to the system uh later this summer early fall for improvements in 2022

[2:22:42] Voice 23: 2022. And that's my report. And my apologies to everyone. I have to run off. But thanks again for

[2:22:50] Voice 23: allowing me to speak about the modus of notion. Thanks, everyone. Bye.

[2:22:58] Trustee Luckham (probable): Thanks, Gary, for the humor today and all of your reporting. Appreciate it.

[2:23:05] Trustee Luckham (probable): All right, trustees, who was going to go first here?

[2:23:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): I think

[2:23:09] Trustee Luckham (probable): it's

[2:23:11] Trustee Grove: my turn to take off first. I just want to reflect briefly on the sadness of the

[2:23:18] Trustee Grove: loss of Seneca Elliott, who is a well-liked member of our community. Desperately sad and so

[2:23:26] Trustee Grove: impressed by the way our community rallied, particularly the search and rescue groups.

[2:23:31] Trustee Grove: It emphasizes, although we don't really know what was going on, it emphasizes that we just don't

[2:23:37] Trustee Grove: know what's going on in our one another's lives during these very very difficult times it's there's

[2:23:42] Trustee Grove: full of stress and anxiety and more than ever we need to be tolerant and kind

[2:23:49] Trustee Grove: to one another and improve our ability to communicate which is um so much like a core

[2:23:56] Trustee Grove: of things that are going wrong quite frankly um so we've uh communications is difficult at the best

[2:24:04] Trustee Grove: of times. This kind of Zoom meeting I think is most inadequate. I find it very frustrating

[2:24:10] Trustee Grove: and don't actually enjoy them particularly, whereas I generally like the kinds of meetings

[2:24:15] Trustee Grove: we have in our LTC and Trust Council and other meetings I'm participating in. But this doesn't

[2:24:22] Trustee Grove: do it in terms of really understanding one another, being able to see each other in the flesh,

[2:24:29] Trustee Grove: even give each other a hug. So, and there is light at the end of the tunnel. The best

[2:24:35] Trustee Grove: information I can gather is about 70% of those eligible on Salt Spring have now received

[2:24:40] Trustee Grove: at least one vaccination. There's, you know, we'll be hearing at one o'clock in 45 minutes

[2:24:47] Trustee Grove: from Dr. Bonnie Henry, and I'm hoping that she will have alleviating some of the restrictions

[2:24:53] Trustee Grove: which will be a great sound of happiness for our business community, our restaurants and tourism in general.

[2:25:04] Trustee Grove: So and I'm personally hoping to see my children and grandchildren who I haven't seen for over a year together with so many other people.

[2:25:13] Trustee Grove: So there's so there is good news, I think, in terms of the local trust committee.

[2:25:19] Trustee Grove: You will have heard earlier that there are good things happening.

[2:25:22] Trustee Grove: We have our Housing Action Task Force,

[2:25:25] Trustee Grove: our Water Sustainability, our Coastal Douglas FUR,

[2:25:30] Trustee Grove: and Ganges Village Planning is all moving ahead.

[2:25:34] Trustee Grove: And the more we can get together

[2:25:38] Trustee Grove: to talk about these things, the better they will all go.

[2:25:43] Trustee Grove: So thank you, Chair.

[2:25:45] Trustee Grove: That's really all I have to say for today.

[2:25:48] Trustee Luckham (probable): Thank you, sir.

[2:25:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): Trustee Patrick.

[2:25:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): Oh,

[2:25:52] Trustee Patrick: thank you, Peter, for talking about that. I know in last Friday's session with ASK, I too talked about the stresses of life today and admitted it's taking a toll on me. It's exhausting. It's difficult to be in this format day in, day out and not be able to sit and see people.

[2:26:10] Trustee Patrick: uh i know my fuse is about this short and um i'm can't wait to have this over

[2:26:18] Trustee Patrick: and um and i just think you know as people take pen to paper and do all those things to

[2:26:23] Trustee Patrick: think about the effect um because i continue to be absolutely dumbfounded by the ongoing effort

[2:26:30] Trustee Patrick: to vilify vilify us trustees that voted against the resolution that uh that said that uh made

[2:26:37] Trustee Patrick: made paramount object of the trust being natural environment please rest assured that uh not

[2:26:45] Trustee Patrick: abandoning my devotion to preservation and protection of the natural environment

[2:26:50] Trustee Patrick: i think jason mogus did a wonderful job in his article in last week's driftwood called wrong

[2:26:56] Trustee Patrick: scapegoats that conservationists today have integrated human issues of justice race and

[2:27:03] Trustee Patrick: and class into our environmental values.

[2:27:05] Trustee Patrick: It's just, it's how we have to look at life today.

[2:27:10] Trustee Patrick: And I'll say it again and again and again

[2:27:12] Trustee Patrick: that the Islands Trust is different

[2:27:14] Trustee Patrick: from every other local government

[2:27:15] Trustee Patrick: because we have a statutory legal requirement

[2:27:17] Trustee Patrick: for the environment in addition to all other obligations.

[2:27:21] Trustee Patrick: And I know every trustee in this meeting

[2:27:23] Trustee Patrick: takes that obligation absolutely seriously.

[2:27:29] Trustee Patrick: And following again on what Peter said,

[2:27:31] Trustee Patrick: I think it is so important that, you know,

[2:27:33] Trustee Patrick: This island likes to take sides, and that's an impediment to progress, and that we need to work together.

[2:27:39] Trustee Patrick: We've got to listen to each other, consider other viewpoints.

[2:27:42] Trustee Patrick: And those kind of efforts of listening and considering other viewpoints helps us problem-solve and find integrated, innovative solutions.

[2:27:55] Trustee Patrick: As usual, I've attended lots of meetings, chaired local trust committees, two North Pender meetings and one South Pender, and a Saterna Island local trust meeting.

[2:28:04] Trustee Patrick: uh the southern gulf island forum which is a relatively new forum it's had two meetings now

[2:28:10] Trustee Patrick: it was held on april 30th and uh at that meeting the brainstormed what kind of issues would be

[2:28:14] Trustee Patrick: best to be used for this uh um group of elected officials and indigenous leaders from across the

[2:28:21] Trustee Patrick: southern gulf islands uh on may 3rd i was invited to the trust programs committee meeting to review

[2:28:28] Trustee Patrick: the initial draft of the revised trust policy statement i submitted a number of comments on

[2:28:33] Trustee Patrick: on the draft, this draft makes significant progress

[2:28:36] Trustee Patrick: towards reconciliation.

[2:28:38] Trustee Patrick: And I do believe there is further opportunity

[2:28:41] Trustee Patrick: for this document to be used as a foundational document

[2:28:45] Trustee Patrick: for helping us bring modern concepts

[2:28:50] Trustee Patrick: to make sustainable island communities

[2:28:54] Trustee Patrick: and to curtail the development that's out of step.

[2:29:00] Trustee Patrick: I had executive committee meeting

[2:29:02] Trustee Patrick: and also participated in a meeting on May 6th

[2:29:05] Trustee Patrick: with the representative trustees

[2:29:06] Trustee Patrick: from across the Southern Gulf Islands

[2:29:08] Trustee Patrick: to talk about regional options

[2:29:10] Trustee Patrick: for managing short-term vacation rentals.

[2:29:12] Trustee Patrick: Those present supported asking the CRD

[2:29:16] Trustee Patrick: to explore implementation of business licenses

[2:29:18] Trustee Patrick: for short-term vacation rentals.

[2:29:20] Trustee Patrick: And we have that on our agenda later today to talk about.

[2:29:23] Trustee Patrick: I was extremely grateful to attend a special meeting

[2:29:27] Trustee Patrick: of indigenous knowledge holders

[2:29:29] Trustee Patrick: sharing stories about water.

[2:29:32] Trustee Patrick: uh just a couple weeks ago and i was particularly moved by harold joe's answer to my question about

[2:29:38] Trustee Patrick: the integration of people in place because while this meeting was about water

[2:29:43] Trustee Patrick: they never spoke exclusively about water they always spoke about the water the air the land

[2:29:48] Trustee Patrick: people all together and harold said we have to always remember what it means about

[2:29:54] Trustee Patrick: about being human, not just human beings, but being human and what those responsibilities are.

[2:30:00] Trustee Patrick: are for us to take care of the place that uh that we live the regional planning committee which i'm

[2:30:06] Trustee Patrick: a member advanced the model fee bylaws is coming to trust council in june and um i also want to

[2:30:14] Trustee Patrick: thank the agricultural advisory commission for their thoughtful consideration of the application

[2:30:20] Trustee Patrick: that we referred to them i represented the local trust committee at the community economic

[2:30:27] Trustee Patrick: economic development commission meeting just last week and I want to reach out and thank

[2:30:31] Trustee Patrick: regional planning manager Stefan Cermak who's been working with with them to produce a short

[2:30:36] Trustee Patrick: video that explains how to move an idea of a business venture through to reality here on

[2:30:42] Trustee Patrick: Salt Spring it's a it's an exciting little infographic and I can't wait to see that out

[2:30:46] Trustee Patrick: there and I really want to thank Stefan for taking working with them at this meeting several

[2:30:51] Trustee Patrick: organizations also reported on sort of their partner activities and economics and I was so

[2:30:56] Trustee Patrick: so happy to hear the Salt Spring Arts Council Artcraft this year undertook a project to

[2:31:03] Trustee Patrick: bolster their inclusion and build connections with Indigenous artists. They expanded their

[2:31:09] Trustee Patrick: normal eligibility geographic region to be that of the territorial region of First Nations,

[2:31:15] Trustee Patrick: and I thought that was, you know, a wonderful step that they're taking to include Indigenous

[2:31:21] Trustee Patrick: indigenous artists in art craft. I was also happy to attend Transition's Let's Beef Up Our Food

[2:31:29] Trustee Patrick: Security on May 19th, and lots of innovative information on the route, the abattoir, and how

[2:31:34] Trustee Patrick: to interact with local growers. And I had my turn at Ask Salt Spring last Friday, and there'll be a

[2:31:39] Trustee Patrick: separate article coming out on that conversation. Thank you.

[2:31:48] Trustee Luckham (probable): Thank you very much, Trustee Patrick.

[2:31:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): Patrick, I would just like to start off by saying a few things.

[2:31:58] Trustee Luckham (probable): I want to thank you both, Peter, for raising the sad turn of events in your community.

[2:32:06] Trustee Luckham (probable): Certainly, my wife, Simone, and I were monitoring that situation as it unfolded, and our heart

[2:32:13] Trustee Luckham (probable): goes out to everybody in your community with that loss.

[2:32:17] Trustee Luckham (probable): And indeed, all that has been said is

[2:32:20] Voice 3: true.

[2:32:21] Trustee Luckham (probable): True. I also want to thank Laura for referencing the water workshop. Indeed, we're at 98% water.

[2:32:33] Trustee Luckham (probable): We can't separate ourselves from that. I'm going to jump and totally appreciate

[2:32:42] Trustee Luckham (probable): Harold Joe. He's been a friend and a colleague for many years, and he always has something,

[2:32:47] Trustee Luckham (probable): think some wisdom to share with us my favorite reference he made once when we were looking at a

[2:32:55] Trustee Luckham (probable): shell midden here on Thetis is that looking at it that this was a busy place and I think that's

[2:33:01] Trustee Luckham (probable): something that we have to realize this wasn't just a few people living on the west coast

[2:33:04] Trustee Luckham (probable): it was thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people living on the west coast living in

[2:33:09] Trustee Luckham (probable): communities where they had lived for thousands of years was a busy place and that's a really

[2:33:15] Trustee Luckham (probable): important thing to grasp. And on the nature of human and being human, I'll jump ahead a tiny

[2:33:24] Trustee Luckham (probable): little bit in the correspondence here from a book, Myth of Human Supremacy. Not only is nature more

[2:33:29] Trustee Luckham (probable): complicated than we think, it is more complicated than we can think. And I think that's also

[2:33:35] Trustee Luckham (probable): something really worthy of consideration for the thousands of years that human beings have

[2:33:42] Trustee Luckham (probable): of being here, being human.

[2:33:46] Trustee Luckham (probable): So, you know, these are incredibly busy, exciting times.

[2:33:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): There's a lot of amazing work going on.

[2:33:55] Trustee Luckham (probable): I've had a number of executive committee meetings,

[2:33:58] Trustee Luckham (probable): trust programs committee meetings,

[2:34:00] Trustee Luckham (probable): regional planning committee meetings,

[2:34:02] Trustee Luckham (probable): advancing all of the significant work

[2:34:05] Trustee Luckham (probable): that the Alms Trust is undertaking at the moment,

[2:34:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): which includes water, forestry, and of course the policy statement and reconciliation are central

[2:34:17] Trustee Luckham (probable): to all of the work that we're doing and creates a theme of preserve and protect and the

[2:34:23] Trustee Luckham (probable): responsibility to manage the human impact on this place that we are responsible to, as Laura has

[2:34:33] Trustee Luckham (probable): said in the legislation, we are mandated to preserve and protect. Absolutely. There's

[2:34:40] Trustee Luckham (probable): certainly been a lot of controversy over the work that we're doing on the policy statement.

[2:34:45] Trustee Luckham (probable): And to be quite honest, misinterpretations of what we're doing. What may not be obvious

[2:34:52] Trustee Luckham (probable): in the foreground is there's a lot of political controversy in the background happening and

[2:35:00] Trustee Luckham (probable): debate happening within the trust council and from my own perspective the motions that you know

[2:35:06] Trustee Luckham (probable): I don't like to use the word fail but the motions that were unsuccessful and all of the motions that

[2:35:12] Trustee Luckham (probable): came to council there during the policy statement discussion in my mind the reason that they did not

[2:35:19] Trustee Luckham (probable): get endorsed is not because they weren't necessarily right in many respects it was because

[2:35:25] Trustee Luckham (probable): it was premature for us to be advancing decisions of that nature when we had only just at that

[2:35:31] Trustee Luckham (probable): meeting received the reporting and the advice from staff about what we had heard from the

[2:35:36] Trustee Luckham (probable): communities across the Islands Trust, where indeed there is a very strong support for

[2:35:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): the Preserve and Protect mandate, prioritizing the environment over human development, but

[2:35:48] Trustee Luckham (probable): indeed managing that human development and meeting the needs of the people that are here

[2:35:53] Trustee Luckham (probable): because I don't think anybody's leaving and so therefore we need to manage

[2:36:01] Trustee Luckham (probable): how that activity happens in context of preserving and protecting. Many of you know that I'm very

[2:36:07] Trustee Luckham (probable): fond of the biosphere concept and the biosphere concept the fundamental elements of that is

[2:36:15] Trustee Luckham (probable): identifying the core values and then managing the human impact on those core values and the

[2:36:20] Trustee Luckham (probable): core values is all the work that we've been doing here in the honors trust around understanding the

[2:36:24] Trustee Luckham (probable): environment understanding uh the complexity of it and indeed uh nature is more complicated than we

[2:36:34] Trustee Luckham (probable): can think of this reiterate that so um also met with the governance uh select committee that's

[2:36:40] Trustee Luckham (probable): overseeing the governance review governance management review we met with the consultants

[2:36:45] Trustee Luckham (probable): that have been selected, Great Northern Management.

[2:36:47] Trustee Luckham (probable): And I can tell you that there's a very strong team there,

[2:36:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): a lot of experience, a lot of knowledge

[2:36:54] Trustee Luckham (probable): in local government and land use planning.

[2:36:57] Trustee Luckham (probable): And I am certainly looking forward to the reporting

[2:37:01] Trustee Luckham (probable): and the conversations that I will have with them

[2:37:04] Trustee Luckham (probable): and the reports that we will receive

[2:37:06] Trustee Luckham (probable): that I think that there's definitely opportunities

[2:37:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): for us to learn something from this exercise.

[2:37:12] Trustee Luckham (probable): I have also met in a conference call situation with the MP from my area here, Alistair McGregor,

[2:37:25] Trustee Luckham (probable): who of course is one of the many MPs that represent areas around the island, Trusted

[2:37:32] Trustee Luckham (probable): Elizabeth May, I've been in communication with her about the oil tanker that transited

[2:37:39] Trustee Luckham (probable): active pass which had us all concerned and Alistair McGregor has been a real lead on the

[2:37:46] Trustee Luckham (probable): vessel anchorages issue and of course tankers and transiting is also a very important aspect of all

[2:37:53] Trustee Luckham (probable): that work and that work will continue. We hope to get the attention of this government to tell us

[2:38:01] Trustee Luckham (probable): what it is they've got in mind with how we're going to manage all of these things. In the last

[2:38:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): Last week there was also, and some of you may have noticed it, there was an oil spill response exercise that is required by Transport Canada for the contractor, West Coast Marine Response Organization, whatever they call themselves.

[2:38:25] Trustee Luckham (probable): I apologize to them. They staged an entire 2,500 ton spill exercise at the Polar Pass and were working Trincomalee Channel for a couple of days.

[2:38:36] Trustee Luckham (probable): I was participating and as an observer in that and was really quite impressed with the skills

[2:38:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): and ability that those teams have and I certainly know that they will do the best they can in the

[2:38:49] Trustee Luckham (probable): event that such a thing happens but please please please let's avoid having that happen

[2:38:54] Trustee Luckham (probable): and let's have measures in place to prevent this from happening which includes topics like I had

[2:39:02] Trustee Luckham (probable): some correspondence this week about the Roberts Bank Terminal 2 expansion which has been on the

[2:39:07] Trustee Luckham (probable): books for quite a number of years. Islands Trust Council certainly has a position on that that is

[2:39:13] Trustee Luckham (probable): in opposition to it if I'm not mistaken and is very very much concerned about the environmental

[2:39:20] Trustee Luckham (probable): impacts of such a facility and the increase in the volume of traffic there as well as with the

[2:39:27] Trustee Luckham (probable): diluted bitumen which seems to be taking a bit of a back burner at the moment.

[2:39:32] Trustee Luckham (probable): in terms of media awareness, but all of these things are out there and indeed in a place that

[2:39:37] Trustee Luckham (probable): has been identified as a national marine conservation area, we need a greater level of

[2:39:44] Trustee Luckham (probable): management to protect this place. The Islands Trust can't do it by its lonesome. So that's my report

[2:39:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): and I apologize for being lengthy. Regional director's report, we've already had that

[2:39:59] Trustee Luckham (probable): and so now we are going to um go to correspondence and then we'll be leading into delegations in

[2:40:06] Trustee Luckham (probable): town hall so um we have one two three four five six pieces of correspondence here today not all

[2:40:13] Trustee Luckham (probable): correspondence ends up on this section of our agenda correspondence specific to do with an

[2:40:19] Trustee Luckham (probable): application ends up going with an application i must say we have received volumes of correspondence

[2:40:26] Trustee Luckham (probable): on the Crest Tower and indeed that will come to us

[2:40:31] Trustee Luckham (probable): when that decision is brought to the LTC.

[2:40:35] Trustee Luckham (probable): And I'm gonna say again, as I've said before,

[2:40:38] Trustee Luckham (probable): many of the concerns expressed in that correspondence

[2:40:40] Trustee Luckham (probable): need to be written to Health Canada

[2:40:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): and they have the authority on determining

[2:40:45] Trustee Luckham (probable): whether or not the radio spectrum transmissions

[2:40:49] Trustee Luckham (probable): from any towers are healthy or not

[2:40:53] Trustee Luckham (probable): and really encourage you to share your voice with those that have the ability to change the future

[2:41:01] Trustee Luckham (probable): because certainly there's lots of things to be concerned about and so many things so I'm going

[2:41:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): to ask the trustees all of these items are here for information there is some consideration on

[2:41:15] Trustee Luckham (probable): 14.5 and 14.6 so on the first items other than receiving for in information is there any direct

[2:41:23] Trustee Luckham (probable): action that you would like to take with respect to items 14.1 uh mr lang uh i apologize for the

[2:41:33] Trustee Luckham (probable): names here um stoss hewitt and moore regarding bc hydro any direction no so we will receive

[2:41:41] Trustee Luckham (probable): those letters for information and I thank oh Peter Grove.

[2:41:46] Trustee Grove: Yes um 14.5 um I'm a bit concerned about

[2:41:52] Trustee Grove: what oh so

[2:41:53] Trustee Grove: I haven't I haven't got

[2:41:54] Trustee Luckham (probable): there yet okay so

[2:41:55] Trustee Grove: we're

[2:41:57] Trustee Luckham (probable): going to receive items 14.1 through

[2:41:59] Trustee Luckham (probable): 14.4 for information and I want to thank all the writers for writing to us we certainly read all

[2:42:05] Trustee Luckham (probable): of it and take it into consideration in developing our thoughts so 14.5 um is for consideration from

[2:42:13] Trustee Luckham (probable): ms mclean concerning aspire affordable covenants uh peter grove you had some remark yeah i'd like

[2:42:19] Trustee Grove: um staff's opinion as to what's going on there and what needs to be considered or done well

[2:42:25] Trustee Luckham (probable): right um

[2:42:26] Trustee Luckham (probable): so i will ask if staff are prepared um to make any comment there or whether or not you need a request

[2:42:34] Trustee Luckham (probable): to prepare a response for us.

[2:42:37] Voice 16: Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chair.

[2:42:39] Voice 16: I actually, stuff are not prepared

[2:42:40] Voice 16: to answer that at this time.

[2:42:41] Voice 16: I haven't looked into it.

[2:42:42] Voice 16: I've been absent.

[2:42:43] Voice 16: So happy to respond back to it

[2:42:47] Voice 16: and keep however you wish to do that.

[2:42:50] Voice 16: Although I think

[2:42:51] Voice 16: there's a specific question.

[2:42:52] Trustee Luckham (probable): So shall we make a motion

[2:42:54] Trustee Luckham (probable): or is there a specific question?

[2:42:56] Trustee Grove: You know, I'm going to move

[2:42:59] Trustee Grove: that local trust committee request staff

[2:43:01] Trustee Grove: to report back at the next meeting

[2:43:02] Trustee Grove: regarding item 14.5 concerning affordable covenant

[2:43:08] Trustee Grove: for 121 Atkins Road.

[2:43:12] Trustee Luckham (probable): All right, seconded by Trustee Patrick.

[2:43:15] Trustee Luckham (probable): Any discussion?

[2:43:16] Trustee Luckham (probable): All those in favor?

[2:43:18] Trustee Luckham (probable): That carries, so I thank the writer

[2:43:20] Trustee Luckham (probable): for bringing that to our attention.

[2:43:22] Trustee Luckham (probable): The next item is 14.6, a letter from Mr. Young,

[2:43:27] Trustee Luckham (probable): Chair of Salt Spring, sorry,

[2:43:31] Trustee Luckham (probable): Chair of Transition Salt Spring concerning opposition

[2:43:34] Trustee Luckham (probable): to amending the policy statement excluding communities.

[2:43:39] Trustee Luckham (probable): Trustee Patrick, over to you.

[2:43:41] Trustee Patrick: I'd already let them know that to address it

[2:43:43] Trustee Patrick: to trust council and that is in our package

[2:43:46] Trustee Patrick: for tomorrow's executive meeting.

[2:43:47] Trustee Patrick: So that has happened.

[2:43:49] Trustee Luckham (probable): Perfect, okay, excellent.

[2:43:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): And again, thank the writer for your remarks.

[2:43:54] Trustee Luckham (probable): Appreciate all of the communications

[2:43:57] Trustee Luckham (probable): from both sides of the discussion.

[2:44:01] Trustee Luckham (probable): And so appreciate that.

[2:44:03] Trustee Luckham (probable): All right. So then if there's nothing further with correspondence, I am going to go to delegations.

[2:44:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): And I think it's Una McWatt is here today to speak to us concerning the proposed Rogers Press Tower on Channel Ridge.

[2:44:16] Trustee Luckham (probable): And Rob, if you could advance Ms. McWatt to a speaker, then we can hear her.

[2:44:26] Trustee Luckham (probable): And thank you for joining us today. Over to you.

[2:44:38] Voice 22: Sorry, I was just booted off.

[2:44:40] Voice 22: Here, let's, I was booted off and then rejoined as a, just let me get this there.

[2:44:49] Voice 22: Let me see if that's going to hold.

[2:44:51] Voice 22: Okay.

[2:44:52] Voice 14: Sorry, that was a little,

[2:44:54] Voice 22: I'm glad I have a good internet connection.

[2:44:56] Voice 22: I got kicked off quickly by, I think my friend Rob and put back on so you could hear and

[2:45:02] Voice 22: see me.

[2:45:03] Voice 22: I was wondering how that was going to work.

[2:45:06] Voice 22: Thank you so much for having me.

[2:45:07] Voice 22: It's Una McEwitt and I'm a musician educator and a writer and a telecommunications analyst here.

[2:45:14] Voice 22: Before I begin I would love to ask if you're okay if I have three extra minutes today.

[2:45:20] Voice 22: Is that okay with you?

[2:45:23] Trustee Luckham (probable): How long were you anticipating to speak for?

[2:45:26] Voice 22: I was anticipating eight minutes if that's possible.

[2:45:31] Trustee Luckham (probable): That's fine with the permission of the LTC that would be fine.

[2:45:35] Voice 22: Thank

[2:45:36] Trustee Luckham (probable): you so much.

[2:45:36] Voice 22: I think it will be a more relaxed experience also considering

[2:45:39] Voice 22: the technical stuff. Let me just get the screen sharing going here because I have a little,

[2:45:45] Voice 22: and you're not going to see me anymore. Okay. Oh, maybe you will see me.

[2:45:50] Trustee Luckham (probable): You know, Una, I don't want to presume to know what it is that you're going to tell us,

[2:45:56] Trustee Luckham (probable): but be sure to speak to items within the jurisdiction of the Islands Trust.

[2:46:00] Trustee Luckham (probable): Of

[2:46:01] Voice 22: course, not to worry. I may cover a few things that aren't, but I'll tie it all back in.

[2:46:08] Voice 22: And one thing that I do want to say is that if there is anything I present that you want further

[2:46:14] Voice 22: reference material or support material on, please don't hesitate to ask because there's a lot of

[2:46:19] Voice 22: ground that we're going to cover. Preserve and protect. At this time, when our future hangs by

[2:46:27] Voice 22: the frailest of threads? And do we normalize technology that has the capacity to harm us

[2:46:34] Voice 22: and the natural world? You have the power to make a difference, to take care of this beautiful place

[2:46:42] Voice 22: we steward. On May 10th, David Almeida of IACD told me it is ultimately the LUA who can say yay

[2:46:51] Voice 22: or nay to a tower. ISED steps in only if there is a dispute. Let's clarify a few things about

[2:46:59] Voice 22: this proposed Rogers project. It will be a mix of 4G and 5G. 4G radiates, think blanket. 5G uses

[2:47:08] Voice 22: beamforming to send radio waves directly to devices, think bullet. In 2019, Rogers spent

[2:47:17] Voice 22: spent $1.7 billion buying 5G spectrum. Rogers now plans to buy out Shaw for $26 billion.

[2:47:26] Voice 22: More towers equals more revenue to cover expenses. Rogers has big plans for Vancouver Island,

[2:47:34] Voice 22: Alert Bay, North Cowichan, Coombs, Oak Bay, Sook, Port Renfrew, Sproat Lake. The tower and channel

[2:47:47] Voice 22: will belong to Rogers. 95% of the equipment on it will belong to Rogers. 5% of it will belong

[2:48:02] Voice 22: to Crest. Rogers will use about 12 of these antennas for 5G. With this macro tower and

[2:48:15] Voice 22: ownership of Shaw's infrastructure and place, Rogers has free reign to install small cell

[2:48:24] Voice 22: antennas by homes in populated north salt spring neighborhood neighborhoods like these and because

[2:48:37] Voice 22: of federal tower siting regulations at that point there will be nothing you or residents can do

[2:48:43] Voice 22: about it do we need this rogers tower these maps show the current 4g 5g and coverage according to

[2:48:55] Voice 22: Rogers and TELUS's maps and the white zones are the areas where they show there is no coverage.

[2:49:04] Voice 22: There is no shortage of cell sites or signals on and around Salt Spring. Each of these icons

[2:49:10] Voice 22: is a cellular transmitter. The Canadian cellular towers map shows there are already two TELUS

[2:49:18] Voice 22: installations at this Channel Ridge site. In 2020, TELUS strengthened the signals on their SSI towers

[2:49:26] Voice 22: improving mobile coverage and qualifying 3,000 Salt Spring homes for 4G light smart hub internet.

[2:49:34] Voice 22: So yes, cell towers are used for home internet. Emergency calls can be made through any provider.

[2:49:47] Voice 22: Given that there's already a TELUS tower at this site, and given our topography, this tower will

[2:49:53] Voice 22: will not improve mobile access to 9-1-1.

[2:49:58] Voice 22: In May 2021, 90% of Salt Spring residents surveyed

[2:50:03] Voice 22: said they could already access 9-1-1 by cell phone from home.

[2:50:09] Voice 22: As a recent Cross Canada Rogers outage showed us,

[2:50:13] Voice 22: cellular networks are vulnerable to hacking and to technical glitches.

[2:50:18] Voice 22: They often don't withstand natural disasters.

[2:50:28] Voice 22: How then can you keep us safe?

[2:50:30] Voice 22: Well, 20 years ago, the Salt Spring Trust passed the most precautionary radiation exposure guideline in Canada.

[2:50:41] Voice 22: Here are just some of the cell tower studies published since then that show harm to humans, flora, and fauna.

[2:50:50] Voice 22: There is a home less than 50 meters from this proposed site.

[2:50:59] Voice 22: 30 more are within 500 meters.

[2:51:07] Voice 22: But if cell tower radiation is harmful, wouldn't the federal government tell us?

[2:51:18] Voice 22: Big Telecom lobbies Ottawa twice a day.

[2:51:24] Voice 22: Health Canada has been slow to act on carcinogens like asbestos and cigarettes.

[2:51:30] Voice 22: And RF radiation has been deemed a 2B carcinogen by the World Health Organization.

[2:51:35] Voice 22: And that's up for review.

[2:51:38] Voice 22: It's going to be upgraded to a higher toxicity rating in the next little while, over the next year.

[2:51:45] Voice 22: Until Health Canada Safety Code 6 catches up with non-industry affiliated science,

[2:51:54] Voice 22: please preserve and protect. This project contravenes a climate action plan. 4G consumes

[2:52:09] Voice 22: 23 times more energy than wired connections. 5G will use two to three times more energy than 4G.

[2:52:21] Voice 22: 5G requires new phones.

[2:52:23] Voice 22: The carbon footprint of Apple phones grows with each new generation.

[2:52:33] Voice 22: 20 to 37% of our island's carbon emissions come from what we put on our plates.

[2:52:42] Voice 22: Wireless radiation threatens pollinators, which endangers our local food resilience.

[2:52:59] Voice 22: Preserve and protect.

[2:53:03] Voice 22: Crest is partnering with ratchets on other towers in Shirley, Port Renfrew, and Otter Bay.

[2:53:18] Voice 22: We are told this is cost-effective, but long-term liability costs tell us otherwise.

[2:53:34] Voice 22: Cell towers are a fire hazard.

[2:53:37] Voice 22: Telecom equipment has been involved in the ignition of both of the last two major Malibu, California, wildfires.

[2:53:44] Voice 22: And 20 years ago, the International Association of Firefighters passed a resolution banning cell towers on fire halls based on a study done on firefighters who had cell towers near their halls and who experienced a series of ill health effects.

[2:54:05] Voice 22: Improving emergency services should not put us at risk.

[2:54:09] Voice 22: risk so this is done by a scientist in Australia along the left are identified risks that have been

[2:54:16] Voice 22: discovered by science as being linked to radio frequency radiation the next column shows what

[2:54:22] Voice 22: radio frequency regulators suggest in terms of a single exposure what they suggest the next column

[2:54:29] Voice 22: in terms of long-term exposure and this is based on what research is suggesting and we're just

[2:54:35] Voice 22: going to go over to the the last there's a column that says costs and it says that the impact is

[2:54:41] Voice 22: going to be very high on local regional and federal governments in terms of the costs of these

[2:54:47] Voice 22: effects and these are just effects health effects we're not looking at the environmental and

[2:54:52] Voice 22: liability effects and then the the risk rating over here so it goes from extreme to high to a

[2:54:59] Voice 22: couple of them being medium this is a pivotal moment it's the land use authority and i'm sorry

[2:55:11] Voice 22: peter you became the poster boy here you have the power to say no to this project and to offer

[2:55:18] Voice 22: a better solution one that supports our emergency service providers and their mandate and the

[2:55:25] Voice 22: well-being of our island community and that should have been there if crest can't co-locate on the

[2:55:32] Voice 22: existing Telus Tower. Crest should use the funds they allocated to the Legion project

[2:55:38] Voice 22: to build their own monopole, with no commercial antennas allowed. Esquimalt and View Royal do not

[2:55:48] Voice 22: allow telecom equipment on their Crest monopoles. Please follow the lead of Pitt Meadows, West

[2:55:56] Voice 22: Vancouver, Winnipeg, the Nanaimo Regional District, and many other elected officials.

[2:56:01] Voice 22: Take a precautionary stance and write a letter of non-concurrence for this Rogers Tower, exercising your right, your privilege, and your responsibility to manage development and to preserve and protect.

[2:56:20] Voice 22: So a couple of summary slides just to finish.

[2:56:23] Voice 22: Here's the reasons for non-concurrence with the Rogers Tower, which ISAD should accept but won't.

[2:56:29] Voice 22: Property values near the tower will decline.

[2:56:31] Voice 22: the cumulative radio frequency emissions will far exceed our 2001 precautionary principle

[2:56:36] Voice 22: which was passed by resolution by the salt spring trust the biological effects on flora and fauna

[2:56:43] Voice 22: remember this site is adjacent to a nature reserve and the environmental footprint of the project the

[2:56:48] Voice 22: high energy use of wireless and how that contravenes our climate action plan but good news

[2:56:54] Voice 22: here are the reasons for non-concurrence which they will accept land use related it's located

[2:56:59] Voice 22: in a residential area there's a home as close as 50 meters away and you may say it's a utility

[2:57:04] Voice 22: corridor there's already a tower there so put another tower there but actually that's all the

[2:57:09] Voice 22: more reason why we should limit the the number of commercial cell towers at that site the residents

[2:57:14] Voice 22: in that area already are already in the environment of one tower replacing a fire hazard in a forest

[2:57:20] Voice 22: by a nature reserve there's a liability risk to the trust and the trust should require that the

[2:57:27] Voice 22: proponent demonstrate full coverage for causing fires, for health and environmental claims

[2:57:32] Voice 22: related to electromagnetic pollution, and for liability claims due to cyber attacks and

[2:57:38] Voice 22: data loss. And your mandate is to preserve the rural quality of our island, not to permit

[2:57:44] Voice 22: unneeded development in the form of commercial wireless infrastructure. Need related. There's

[2:57:50] Voice 22: no demonstrated need for Rogers portion, which is 95% of this project. Rogers coverage maps,

[2:57:56] Voice 22: apps, as you saw, show almost full 4G and 5G coverage now. You also saw that there are a dozen

[2:58:02] Voice 22: plus sites already servicing the island. This tower will not improve 911 access or commercial

[2:58:10] Voice 22: cellular emergency services beyond the coverage of the TELUS tower now at this site.

[2:58:16] Voice 22: And CREST is taxpayer supported. A large number of constituents have requested that CREST improve

[2:58:22] Voice 22: emergency services without partnering with commercial providers so thank you

[2:58:27] Voice 22: thank you so much for for having me today and and for listening and again if

[2:58:33] Voice 22: you want any follow-up material please don't hesitate to ask all of this can be

[2:58:37] Voice 22: referenced for you thank you so much thank

[2:58:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): you very much for coming today and

[2:58:46] Trustee Luckham (probable): giving us your presentation. Appreciate it. Are there any questions for the delegate

[2:58:54] Trustee Luckham (probable): at this time? No, no. Okay. So thank you very much. I'm going to go to town hall now. And I see

[2:59:05] Trustee Luckham (probable): we have a number of attendees in the room there. And if you're observing by live streaming,

[2:59:15] Trustee Luckham (probable): that does not give you the ability to speak to us today.

[2:59:20] Trustee Luckham (probable): But if you wish to speak to us today,

[2:59:22] Trustee Luckham (probable): do go to the website, figure out the number,

[2:59:26] Trustee Luckham (probable): the link and the phone number if you wanna use a phone

[2:59:30] Trustee Luckham (probable): to connect with us today.

[2:59:32] Trustee Luckham (probable): And if there's an opportunity,

[2:59:33] Trustee Luckham (probable): we'll give you the chance to speak.

[2:59:37] Trustee Luckham (probable): I just please ask you to keep your thoughts

[2:59:41] Trustee Luckham (probable): to within two minutes.

[2:59:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): and that you be respectful of everyone in the virtual room,

[2:59:48] Trustee Luckham (probable): your family, friends, staff, trustees,

[2:59:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): and speak to the issues, not about individuals,

[2:59:53] Trustee Luckham (probable): and be conscious of your use of language.

[2:59:57] Trustee Luckham (probable): It can be complex.

[3:00:00] Trustee Luckham (probable): times in this modern day and so that said I see two hands up in the attendees room and you can

[3:00:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): either raise your hand digitally at the bottom of the screen there should be a raised hand option

[3:00:11] Trustee Luckham (probable): there and if you're dialing in by phone I do believe it's pound six that allows you to raise

[3:00:18] Trustee Luckham (probable): a digital hand if you phoned in by numbers and I see a couple of numbers there so I am going to

[3:00:24] Trustee Luckham (probable): acknowledge at this time, and staff will bring you in to give you audio capability and video

[3:00:29] Trustee Luckham (probable): capability, but Jessica Beck is first, Jennifer McLean second, Naomi Leon's third, and Nomi Leon's

[3:00:37] Trustee Luckham (probable): third, Naomi Singh fourth, and Jeanette Jobb is fifth, and let's just see how this all goes. Looks

[3:00:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): like everybody wants to talk today, so let's start off with Jessica. Over to you, Jessica.

[3:00:48] Trustee Luckham (probable): hi

[3:00:51] Voice 11: everyone can you hear me okay great uh i first want to say that this is a rogers tower

[3:00:59] Voice 11: and that in the meeting minutes of the april 27th salt spring trust meeting this project was

[3:01:06] Voice 11: referred to three times by elected representatives as the crest tower this tower is being built by

[3:01:13] Voice 11: rogers it is the rogers tower i want to also reiterate something that una had said that 95

[3:01:20] Voice 11: 5% of this tower will be used by Rogers for commercial cellular. Only 5% will be used by

[3:01:27] Voice 11: Crest. If this land use application was from a large corporation that wanted to build a single

[3:01:36] Voice 11: use plastics manufacturing plant, with 5% of the facility being allocated to a CRD plastic

[3:01:43] Voice 11: recycling center, would the structure be called a CRD recycling center? I urge you to please write

[3:01:54] Voice 11: a letter of non-concurrence for this project. Thank you.

[3:01:59] Trustee Luckham (probable): Thank you very much. Jennifer McLean,

[3:02:03] Trustee Luckham (probable): can we advance her?

[3:02:08] Voice 3: Good afternoon, Jennifer. Over to you. You'll have to unmute your microphone.

[3:02:22] Voice 3: You're live, Jennifer. Are

[3:02:24] Voice 6: you able to hear me? Yes.

[3:02:26] Voice 6: Good. Happy. Okay. I really enjoyed

[3:02:30] Voice 6: Una's presentation and I feel really lucky to live on Salt Spring where so many people

[3:02:36] Voice 6: are so proactive to learn about everything connected with this issue. I'm speaking on

[3:02:43] Voice 6: energy use and climate change. Cell towers are not green. This project contravenes our island's

[3:02:49] Voice 6: climate action plan in terms of energy use. 4G consumes two to three times more energy

[3:02:55] Voice 6: than wired connections do. A typical 5G base station uses twice as much energy as a 4G base

[3:03:04] Voice 6: station does major environmental groups like the sierra club of california have issued warnings

[3:03:10] Voice 6: about the effects of our growing wireless dependence and that the effect it's having

[3:03:16] Voice 6: on climate change the largest environmental group in spain warns that the digital economy

[3:03:24] Voice 6: with its e-waste and the excessive amount of energy used in manufacturing and usage has an

[3:03:31] Voice 6: immense ecological footprint. And personally, I believe that it is not contributing to the

[3:03:39] Voice 6: circular economy, which means that things can be properly recycled. It's part of a linear economy,

[3:03:45] Voice 6: the way that things are just going into landfills and creating damage in watersheds. It's terrible.

[3:03:53] Voice 6: The Shift Project, a French nonprofit created by energy climate experts, has concluded that

[3:04:01] Voice 6: if we are to stop climate change, we must practice digital sobriety. For the sake of our planet,

[3:04:06] Voice 6: please write a letter of non-concurrence for this project. I'm finished. Thank you.

[3:04:12] Voice 28: Thank you, Jennifer. Nomi, where did you go now? Did Nomi drop off the call or

[3:04:25] Trustee Luckham (probable): looks like she did. So I'm going to go to Naomi Singh next. And Jennifer.

[3:04:31] Trustee Luckham (probable): Hi,

[3:04:34] Voice 10: everyone. Can you hear me?

[3:04:36] Trustee Luckham (probable): Yes.

[3:04:37] Voice 10: Great. Thank you for having me today.

[3:04:40] Voice 10: This tower lays the groundwork for 5G on our island.

[3:04:44] Voice 10: Rogers will transmit two out of the three frequencies they are using for 5G from this tower.

[3:04:50] Voice 10: 5G is wireless internet.

[3:04:52] Voice 10: TELUS uses their 4G network here to provide home internet through smart hubs.

[3:04:57] Voice 10: This Rogers Tower could also be used to provide home internet, competing directly with community-owned fiber optics that might be implemented through the connected coast.

[3:05:09] Voice 10: Many providers are now removing wires connected directly to homes and spewing 4G and 5G signals from small cell antennas instead.

[3:05:22] Voice 10: Rogers is rolling out 5G in rural areas across Canada.

[3:05:25] Voice 10: There are several neighborhoods on Salt Spring where homes are close enough to support small cell antennas that may be used for millimeter wave 5G.

[3:05:35] Voice 10: These small cell antennas can be installed with no further input from you or us.

[3:05:40] Voice 10: We may wake up one day to find a cell transmitter in front of our home, and there will be nothing we can do about it.

[3:05:49] Voice 10: But you do have a say. I encourage you all to write a non-concurrence for this project.

[3:05:55] Voice 10: Thanks for having me today.

[3:06:01] Voice 28: Thank you, Naomi.

[3:06:03] Voice 28: So Jeanette Job is the next speaker.

[3:06:08] Voice 5: Good afternoon.

[3:06:09] Voice 5: Thank you for having me.

[3:06:10] Voice 5: I wanted to speak to the emergency services aspect, which is the point of the whole tower.

[3:06:16] Voice 5: This tower will not make us safer.

[3:06:19] Voice 5: The Rogers portion will not improve emergency services on our island.

[3:06:23] Voice 5: The only emergency services Rogers will provide from this tower is 911, which may be dialed using any provider, even with a cell phone that does not have a plan.

[3:06:33] Voice 5: So if topography is what is preventing us from accessing 911 through the TELUS tower already in place, then it would not be any better accessing it through Rogers.

[3:06:44] Voice 5: Once the tower is in place, Rogers can and has said they will invite other commercial providers to add antennas to it with no further public consultation required.

[3:06:51] Voice 5: required several studies have shown that living near cell towers is harmful there is a home 50

[3:06:57] Voice 5: meters as was already stated and more within 500 meters at least 30 homes so rather than making us

[3:07:05] Voice 5: safer and for those in proximity this tower is actually in the long run increasing our need for

[3:07:11] Voice 5: 9-1-1 and providing those those health concerns 20 years ago this is so incredible and important

[3:07:17] Voice 5: that the Salt Spring Island Trust implemented by resolution

[3:07:21] Voice 5: the most protective radiation exposure guideline

[3:07:24] Voice 5: in the country.

[3:07:25] Voice 5: That's really impressive, and we'd like you to stand by that.

[3:07:29] Voice 5: You may be required to defer to Safety Code 6,

[3:07:31] Voice 5: but you're also obliged to champion your policies.

[3:07:34] Voice 5: We urge you to continue to provide the visionary leadership

[3:07:37] Voice 5: we deserve and write a letter of non-concurrence

[3:07:40] Voice 5: for this project.

[3:07:40] Voice 5: Thank you very much.

[3:07:44] Voice 28: Thank you very much, Jeanette.

[3:07:46] Voice 28: that. Kaylee Cares, you're next.

[3:07:53] Voice 8: Hello. Yes. Can you hear me? Yes.

[3:07:57] Voice 8: Wonderful. Thank you.

[3:08:00] Voice 8: Yes. Kaylee Cares, I want to let you know that I am a homeowner in the north end close to

[3:08:07] Voice 8: Challenge Channel Ridge and have five acre property that's fully treed. And I'm going to

[3:08:13] Voice 8: speak to the safety of the cell towers today because the cell towers are fire hazards and

[3:08:18] Voice 8: are vulnerable in disasters. The cell towers don't hold up in disasters conditions. They failed

[3:08:24] Voice 8: in the tornado in Ottawa. They failed in the fires in California and the hurricanes in Puerto Rico

[3:08:32] Voice 8: and Texas. They get knocked down, they ignite, or they collapse. Their power backup systems

[3:08:40] Voice 8: are unreliable. The telecom equipment was responsible for the last two major fires

[3:08:46] Voice 8: in Malibu, California. Placing a fire prone cell tower in a forest on an island that often has

[3:08:57] Voice 8: high risk levels is extremely dangerous. Cell phones are not the best way to communicate in

[3:09:04] Voice 8: natural disasters. In October 2017, fires in Northern California, residents with copper

[3:09:13] Voice 8: Upper legacy landline phones received the reverse 911 warnings to evacuate.

[3:09:19] Voice 8: The wireless alerts failed to get through.

[3:09:23] Voice 8: Both cellular networks that use wireless lines of sight and those that use fiber to connect towers are vulnerable to earthquakes and extreme weather.

[3:09:36] Voice 8: If one tower or the fiber goes down, they lose the entire network.

[3:09:42] Voice 8: For our island's safety, please write a letter of non-concurrence for this project. Thank you so much.

[3:09:52] Voice 28: Thank you, Kaylee. Nowick Gray, the next speaker.

[3:10:14] Voice 3: It looks like we lost Nowick there for some reason.

[3:10:20] Voice 3: I'm going to move on to Marla Nolan and certainly

[3:10:23] Trustee Luckham (probable): any of the people that dropped off there can come back

[3:10:26] Trustee Luckham (probable): and we'll try to get you back online if we can.

[3:10:29] Trustee Luckham (probable): Marla Nolan.

[3:10:31] Voice 28: Hi.

[3:10:34] Voice 3: Hello.

[3:10:40] Voice 3: Can you hear me?

[3:10:41] Voice 3: I can hear you now.

[3:10:42] Voice 7: Hi there.

[3:10:43] Voice 7: Thank you for allowing me to speak.

[3:10:46] Voice 7: I live also in the north and owner of a forested two-acre property.

[3:10:52] Voice 7: I have two small children.

[3:10:53] Voice 7: I'm near Channel Ridge.

[3:10:55] Voice 7: The ability of wireless radiation exposure to cause serious illness

[3:11:01] Voice 7: has been firmly established in 2018 the u.s national institutes for health completed the

[3:11:09] Voice 7: largest study ever conducted regarding the potential impact of cell phone radio frequency

[3:11:15] Voice 7: radiation the same kind of radiation that will be emitted by rogers from this tower

[3:11:21] Voice 7: top scientists who reviewed the results from this groundbreaking national toxicology program study

[3:11:28] Voice 7: study found clear evidence of cancer, heart damage, reduced birth weights, and DNA damage

[3:11:37] Voice 7: at exposure levels that Health Canada's Safety Code 6 considers safe. The American Cancer Society

[3:11:44] Voice 7: said, and I quote, the National Toxicology Program report linking radiofrequency radiation to two

[3:11:53] Voice 7: types of cancer, marks a paradigm shift in our understanding of radiation and cancer risk.

[3:12:00] Voice 7: The findings are unexpected. We wouldn't reasonably expect non-ionizing radiation to

[3:12:06] Voice 7: cause these tumors, end of quote. Building another cell tower on our island is going against the tide

[3:12:13] Voice 7: of science. Families with young children should not live by cell towers. Neither should women who

[3:12:21] Voice 7: are or would like to become pregnant, people with implanted medical devices or compromised immune

[3:12:27] Voice 7: systems or a sensitivity to radiation should also avoid them. And so for our children and for

[3:12:35] Voice 7: generations to come, please write a letter of non-concurrence for this project. I'm finished.

[3:12:43] Voice 7: Thank you. Thank

[3:12:47] Voice 3: you. Next speaker is Chris Anderson.

[3:13:04] Voice 28: Chris, you'll have to unmute

[3:13:06] Voice 28: mute your phone, and Marla will get moved back to attendees. Thank you. Chris, go ahead. Chris

[3:13:20] Trustee Luckham (probable): Anderson, are you there? We

[3:13:29] Voice 28: see you hand up and your microphone is on, but we're not hearing you.

[3:13:33] Voice 28: As

[3:13:42] Trustee Patrick: I said, Chair Luckum, Chris Anderson's listed twice in the attendees list.

[3:13:47] Voice 28: Oh, I see that. So that's not

[3:13:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): helpful. So Chris, I'm presuming you can hear us. So you have two devices connected. I'm guessing you must be speaking. Oh, well, I see that's been promoted. Maybe you can unmute the other device. Although you might get an echo and a feedback, but give that a try. Can we promote the other Chris Anderson staff?

[3:14:15] Trustee Luckham (probable): both

[3:14:17] Voice 18: are promoted i'm confused as to why we're having an issue it's not us it's zoom related

[3:14:22] Voice 18: uh

[3:14:25] Trustee Luckham (probable): yeah so i think uh apologies chris um some technology challenge going on here

[3:14:33] Trustee Luckham (probable): um and i think we'll have to move along and i now see that no it gray has returned to us

[3:14:39] Trustee Luckham (probable): um and so perhaps um no it could speak to us and then i see

[3:14:45] Trustee Luckham (probable): Naomi Loins has a message in the chat.

[3:14:48] Trustee Luckham (probable): So perhaps you can chat.

[3:14:51] Voice 19: Okay.

[3:14:52] Voice 19: Hello.

[3:14:53] Trustee Luckham (probable): Hello.

[3:14:54] Trustee Luckham (probable): Who's speaking now?

[3:14:55] Trustee Luckham (probable): This is Noak.

[3:14:57] Voice 19: Yeah, there wasn't the usual unmute button available on the bottom of the screen.

[3:15:01] Voice 19: So this time, somehow it just popped up and I was able to push it.

[3:15:06] Voice 19: But there seems to be an issue in the Zoom interface compared to how it usually works.

[3:15:12] Voice 28: Great.

[3:15:12] Voice 28: Go ahead now, then.

[3:15:13] Voice 19: All right.

[3:15:14] Voice 19: All right, so the point I want to make is that the local trust committee has ample land use relevant reasons to refuse this tower.

[3:15:25] Voice 19: First of all, there is no proven need for our community community benefit from the Rogers portion of this project.

[3:15:34] Voice 19: Sighting a second cell tower in a residential neighborhood at a site that borders a nature reserve, a popular recreation area, and also a sensitive watershed that provides much of the water for the island is a poor land use practice.

[3:15:51] Voice 19: Having a utility corridor in such a place does not mean, you know, it's not there to create a health hazard, which this would be.

[3:16:00] Voice 19: both for fire and EMF reasons and third 5G networks consist of small cell antennas and

[3:16:08] Voice 19: macro towers and as has already been pointed out the trust has no input into where small cell

[3:16:15] Voice 19: antennas are placed but you do have a say when it comes to the macro towers so given that this

[3:16:21] Voice 19: project would lay the foundation for a full 5G on our island we must make our voices count now

[3:16:30] Voice 19: So as the land use authority, you do have the power to say no to this tower and to limit the amount and type of development on our island.

[3:16:38] Voice 19: So please do exercise that right and responsibility as the land use authority and write a letter of non-concurrent for this project.

[3:16:47] Voice 19: Can I also say that Savia Lynn is sharing this connection with me and she would like to speak also.

[3:16:53] Trustee Luckham (probable): and

[3:16:53] Voice 19: she's registered for the call as well so can she speak when appropriate oh

[3:17:00] Trustee Luckham (probable): well i see that

[3:17:01] Trustee Luckham (probable): her name is on the list and she has a connection presently and so we can this

[3:17:06] Voice 19: is the connection

[3:17:07] Trustee Luckham (probable): pardon me this

[3:17:09] Voice 19: is her connection also we're sharing this connection okay

[3:17:14] Trustee Luckham (probable): but she also has

[3:17:15] Trustee Luckham (probable): a device connected to us so that's fine naomi is the next speaker so go ahead okay

[3:17:20] Voice 13: myself

[3:17:22] Voice 13: go

[3:17:23] Trustee Luckham (probable): ahead yes okay

[3:17:25] Voice 15: hello

[3:17:29] Voice 9: great I'm finally in

[3:17:33] Voice 14: hold

[3:17:36] Trustee Luckham (probable): on now somebody Chris is gonna or try again now

[3:17:45] Trustee Luckham (probable): okay so there's another device that is on in your vicinity and it's causing an echo so that other

[3:17:54] Trustee Luckham (probable): the device needs to be turned off or muted okay i'm gonna

[3:17:59] Voice 15: sorry are

[3:18:11] Voice 3: you still there okay i'm gonna

[3:18:18] Trustee Luckham (probable): move along our list until the technology gets sorted out i see chris anderson has his hand up

[3:18:24] Trustee Luckham (probable): still and we did you didn't speak already once and uh the next one is a phone number which is

[3:18:31] Trustee Luckham (probable): chair

[3:18:31] Voice 18: luckham chris we attempted to connect him and it didn't quite work i don't know um

[3:18:38] Voice 18: um that that was our we two two participants and so we could try one more time

[3:18:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): let's try chris then

[3:18:45] Trustee Luckham (probable): yeah okay

[3:18:46] Voice 18: chris

[3:18:55] Trustee Luckham (probable): you'll have to unmute yourself okay that doesn't appear to be working um so i'm

[3:19:11] Trustee Luckham (probable): going to suggest that we go to the phone number 250-537-5102 and if you could tell us your name

[3:19:21] Trustee Luckham (probable): please can

[3:19:28] Voice 3: you

[3:19:30] Voice 1: hear this hello yes oh

[3:19:32] Voice 1: good so I'm on

[3:19:34] Voice 3: yes okay

[3:19:36] Voice 1: good well I have

[3:19:38] Voice 1: a little presentation on a mini presentation on behalf of Gulf Islanders

[3:19:43] Voice 1: for safe technology regarding Rogers and Telus not ISEB being planned to planning

[3:19:49] Voice 1: to monitor the safety of the proposed site here goes Health Canada leaves it

[3:19:54] Voice 1: to proponents to measure RF radiation levels. This leads to the hiring of industry-friendly

[3:19:59] Voice 1: firms referencing only safety code 6 and its lax exposure levels rather than biologically-based

[3:20:04] Voice 1: safety guidelines, such as our salt spring precautionary guidelines. Rogers relies on

[3:20:09] Voice 1: computer modeling to claim that cumulative emissions at this site from Rogers and TELUS

[3:20:13] Voice 1: combined conform to code 6. A computer code is not a mind reader. Rogers cannot know what

[3:20:19] Voice 1: at Telus plans and the changes they make to their emissions. Many more antennas would be

[3:20:25] Voice 1: added in time, including, of course, the most hazardous iteration ever of 5G. When Cyprus says

[3:20:33] Voice 1: that RFR output remain around these levels, quote unquote, regardless of new antennas being added,

[3:20:42] Voice 1: this is at best an illogical impossibility. And since much is gained by minimizing apparent risk

[3:20:49] Voice 1: to public health, we question their honesty, accuracy, and integrity. More antennas equals

[3:20:54] Voice 1: more transmissions equals more RFR. At complex sites like this one, ISED requires on-site

[3:21:01] Voice 1: measurements, but ISED lacks the person's power to enforce this policy, so it's back to the fox

[3:21:07] Voice 1: monitoring chickens again. Given how self-signals propagate, distance from a tower does not always

[3:21:14] Voice 1: would mean safety. Areas right under towers, for instance, have the lowest RFR. Signals are

[3:21:19] Voice 1: designed to travel outward. However, many studies show that within a 500 meter radius, the closer

[3:21:25] Voice 1: to the transmitter, the more adverse the health consequences. A recent Spanish study measured

[3:21:31] Voice 1: radiation levels inside and outside homes near transmitters. It found that aside from the wireless

[3:21:37] Voice 1: uses in homes, most of the radiation came from cell towers and that the intensity depended more

[3:21:42] Voice 1: more on beam direction than distance to these.

[3:21:46] Voice 1: Peak exposure levels in these homes near transistors

[3:21:49] Voice 1: was very much higher even than permitted under Unprotected Code 6.

[3:21:54] Voice 1: Health effects such as headaches, dizziness, fatigue, heart problems,

[3:21:57] Voice 1: sleep disorders, et cetera, prevailed in those living

[3:22:00] Voice 1: as far as 200 meters away from a cell tower.

[3:22:03] Voice 1: For our well-being, please write a letter of non-concurrence

[3:22:08] Voice 1: for the proposed project.

[3:22:10] Voice 1: And this is on behalf of Gulf Islanders for Safe Technology,

[3:22:13] Voice 1: And thank you very much, folks.

[3:22:15] Voice 1: Thank you for this opportunity.

[3:22:16] Voice 1: Sorry for the glitches.

[3:22:18] Voice 1: I've been trying with three different computers.

[3:22:20] Voice 1: The crash has happened.

[3:22:23] Voice 1: Thank you.

[3:22:23] Voice 1: Bye.

[3:22:24] Voice 1: Thank you, sir.

[3:22:26] Trustee Luckham (probable): So I see Naomi Singh is at the top of my list here.

[3:22:31] Trustee Luckham (probable): Can we try promoting her to speak?

[3:22:35] Trustee Luckham (probable): And you'll have to unmute yourself, Naomi.

[3:22:38] Voice 10: Hi, everyone.

[3:22:39] Voice 10: My team, they're having a few technical difficulties.

[3:22:43] Voice 10: rob i'm not sure if you're on the call at the moment but nomi loins is trying to get on

[3:22:48] Trustee Luckham (probable): and we

[3:22:49] Trustee Luckham (probable): see her can you make your presentation and we'll get to her when you're completed oh i've

[3:22:55] Voice 10: made my presentation i just wanted to make you folks aware of the technical difficulties well

[3:23:01] Trustee Luckham (probable): we see all of these people on our participants list and the difficulties are at the uh at their

[3:23:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): end because of course it's working for everybody else so there's not much we can do about that

[3:23:12] Trustee Luckham (probable): Okay.

[3:23:13] Trustee Luckham (probable): I'm going to go now to Toto Journey, I think it is.

[3:23:21] Voice 15: Hello?

[3:23:26] Voice 15: Can you hear me?

[3:23:28] Trustee Luckham (probable): Yes, we can also hear an echo because there's another device in proximity to your device.

[3:23:34] Trustee Luckham (probable): Can you hear me?

[3:23:35] Trustee Luckham (probable): I just had a...

[3:23:40] Trustee Luckham (probable): Yes.

[3:23:40] Trustee Luckham (probable): No, now you've gone completely.

[3:23:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): You need to mute the other device.

[3:23:45] Trustee Luckham (probable): Yes, go ahead.

[3:23:47] Voice 20: Can you hear me now?

[3:23:49] Trustee Luckham (probable): Perfect.

[3:23:50] Voice 20: You can hear me fine.

[3:23:52] Trustee Luckham (probable): Yes.

[3:23:53] Voice 20: Great.

[3:23:54] Voice 20: Great. Well, I'd love to share that. Yeah, my name is Toto and I live in the Channel Ridge area and frequent the nature reserve.

[3:24:03] Voice 20: And the more I learn about this project, the less environmental and economic sense it makes to me.

[3:24:09] Voice 20: Here's what I want to know is in an age of rampant tech addiction and resource depletion, how much is enough?

[3:24:17] Voice 20: In the short term, partnering with Rogers may save Crest money. However, over time, models show that the environmental and liability and healthcare costs of wireless infrastructure are quite high.

[3:24:30] Voice 20: Thank you, Trustee Patrick, for reminding us of our interconnectedness and inherent interdependence with nature.

[3:24:36] Voice 20: Also echoing what Chairman Luckman shared about our bodies being 98% water, as well as our surrounding flora and fauna.

[3:24:44] Voice 20: because there have been the numerous studies that show that wireless signals from mobile telecommunication sites

[3:24:50] Voice 20: are harmful to plants, trees, wildlife, and pollinators, along with our own cells and the cells of our children's children.

[3:25:00] Voice 20: We can't harm our environment without harming ourselves.

[3:25:04] Voice 20: CRESS is funded by our tax dollars, and they are better off not used to benefit a huge for-profit telecom corporation like Rogers.

[3:25:14] Voice 20: We support Crest in building their own tower in an appropriate location with no commercial antennas allowed.

[3:25:21] Voice 20: And lastly, with increased radio frequency radiation in urban centers, Salt Spring could serve as a sanctuary with low levels of radio frequency radiation for visitors to come and enjoy.

[3:25:34] Voice 20: The costs are high, the benefits are low. Is there any reason we can't write a letter of non-concurrence for this project? Thank you.

[3:25:43] Voice 20: Okay,

[3:25:44] Trustee Luckham (probable): thank you for your comments. Appreciate that. So Naomi loins now, I think you are on the line there. So unmute yourself and go ahead.

[3:25:57] Trustee Luckham (probable): hey hello can you hear me absolutely yeah oh

[3:26:00] Voice 9: yay thank you so much it is lions by the way although

[3:26:06] Voice 9: anyway i won't say that um again thank you very much everybody for letting me speak i'm really

[3:26:14] Voice 9: glad to hear you say you talk about the complexity of nature and we have no clue um but i'm going to

[3:26:22] Voice 9: to speak about risk management this tower this rogers tower is actually a liability of risk for

[3:26:28] Voice 9: the salt spring island trust there's currently several class action lawsuits underway due to

[3:26:33] Voice 9: wireless exposure and the insurance companies always know what's going on they see wireless

[3:26:39] Voice 9: radiation as too high a risk to ensure and they refuse to cover wireless companies right like

[3:26:46] Voice 9: rogers for health claims related to exposure for rf radiation so this means there's liability for

[3:26:52] Voice 9: this tower if it fails, and that would fall on the island's trust. So in its 2019 new emerging risks

[3:27:00] Voice 9: sonar report, Swiss Ray, one of the world's largest insurance companies, classified 5G as a

[3:27:08] Voice 9: quote-unquote high impact liability risk, unquote, and predicted that claims would increase with

[3:27:16] Voice 9: with time. The city of Malibu, California just passed a new set of rules requiring telecom

[3:27:21] Voice 9: companies to fully ensure their wireless facilities, not just against damage incurred

[3:27:27] Voice 9: should a tower fall or ignite a fire, but also against electromagnetic pollution created by the

[3:27:33] Voice 9: towers. So for all of our protection, please, please write a letter of non-concurrence for

[3:27:39] Voice 9: this project. Thank you so much for listening.

[3:27:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): Thank you very much for your efforts to get

[3:27:47] Trustee Luckham (probable): connected with us today appreciate that so that concludes our speaker's list here um

[3:27:54] Trustee Luckham (probable): i do see noah gary again that

[3:27:59] Voice 18: chair that chair luck that is uh there's two people using the same

[3:28:04] Voice 18: phone line as he was saying there was so many hands up it is a woman named savaya lynn that

[3:28:10] Voice 18: would like to speak if you would allow that chair that

[3:28:15] Trustee Luckham (probable): would be terrific thank you yes

[3:28:18] Voice 18: Yes, we go.

[3:28:21] Voice 13: Hello. Hello. This tower will jeopardize the peaceful rural quality of our

[3:28:29] Voice 13: island I feel, and it benefits Rogers, but not us. Last fall, TALA strengthened the emissions of

[3:28:37] Voice 13: their cell towers on Salt Spring, and they're also planning on adding 5G to them.

[3:28:43] Voice 13: Once the cell tower is in place, we have no say about what gets put on it.

[3:28:47] Voice 13: There are already more than a dozen sites servicing Salt Spring, and Rogers' coverage maps show almost full 4G and 5G coverage here already.

[3:29:00] Voice 13: Yet Rogers is telling us their service in the north end is unreliable.

[3:29:04] Voice 13: So why then is Rogers luring customers with maps that are wrong?

[3:29:09] Voice 13: And why are we putting ourselves at risk to line Rogers' pockets?

[3:29:14] Voice 13: The Rogers portion of this proposal is not fulfilling a need, it's creating one.

[3:29:19] Voice 13: through induced demand. If you build it, they will come. The trust has a mandate to preserve

[3:29:25] Voice 13: the peaceful rural character of our community. Supporting this tower is supporting unneeded

[3:29:31] Voice 13: commercial development. For the sanctity of our island, please write a letter of non-concurrence

[3:29:37] Voice 13: for this project. Thank you.

[3:29:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): Thank you very much for speaking to us today.

[3:29:47] Trustee Luckham (probable): so uh rob if i'm not mistaken i think that's the end of our speakers list yes

[3:29:55] Voice 18: i agree chair

[3:29:56] Voice 18: all

[3:29:58] Trustee Luckham (probable): right then so thank you everybody for

[3:30:00] Trustee Luckham (probable): joining us today and we'll certainly take your thoughts into consideration. At the moment we're

[3:30:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): going to continue on with our agenda applications and referrals. We don't have any today that must

[3:30:12] Trustee Luckham (probable): be a first I think but nonetheless there'll be no doubt there'll be more that will come in the

[3:30:19] Trustee Luckham (probable): near future. So we're going to go on to new business here today and the first two items are

[3:30:26] Trustee Luckham (probable): related one being the galley and or local trust committee referral of proposed bylaw number 278

[3:30:32] Trustee Luckham (probable): um and i'll turn that over to uh staff to uh um brief us on this uh referral um as to whether or

[3:30:44] Trustee Luckham (probable): not our interests are affected uh regional planning manager sir mac bylaw number 278.

[3:30:49] Voice 16: thank you mr chair um so you have before you a bylaw for referral this one's a late one i

[3:30:55] Voice 16: I apologize, I didn't make it to the previous one,

[3:30:57] Voice 16: so it's a bit delayed in reaching you.

[3:31:00] Voice 16: It was referred to you by the Galliano LTC

[3:31:03] Voice 16: and the purpose of the bylaws to ensure that Galliano

[3:31:06] Voice 16: is it's a technical amendment to the land use bylaw

[3:31:08] Voice 16: and it's focused on accuracy and consistency.

[3:31:13] Voice 16: So staff read through it and recommend that the LTC respond

[3:31:19] Voice 16: that interests are unaffected.

[3:31:22] Trustee Luckham (probable): okay trustees um uh i trust you've reviewed this and um if you feel uh staff's advice is

[3:31:31] Trustee Luckham (probable): uh supportive of your own then i'd look for a motion i'm

[3:31:35] Trustee Grove: happy to move that the

[3:31:36] Trustee Grove: salisbury island local trust committee requests staff to respond to the referral from the galliano

[3:31:40] Trustee Grove: island local trust committee for bylaw number 278 indicating that interests are unaffected

[3:31:47] Trustee Luckham (probable): moved and seconded any further discussion all those in favor and that carries all right uh

[3:31:55] Trustee Luckham (probable): next item then 18.1.2 page 99 of the package is galliano island local trust community referral

[3:32:00] Trustee Luckham (probable): proposed bylaw numbers two five six and two five seven once again i'll just turn to staff

[3:32:04] Trustee Luckham (probable): thank

[3:32:07] Voice 16: you mr chair excuse me um so this again is from galliano but it's for a applicant driven

[3:32:14] Voice 16: driven application. It is for to amend the official community plan and the land use bylaw

[3:32:20] Voice 16: in order to continue or to permit a spiritual education center. And it would amend the

[3:32:28] Voice 16: property to allow those uses. And so long story short, the staff read through the bylaw and felt

[3:32:34] Voice 16: that the interests are, oh my goodness, that the staff recommend that the LTC respond that

[3:32:43] Voice 16: that interests are again unaffected.

[3:32:45] Voice 16: Sorry for the muttering.

[3:32:49] Trustee Luckham (probable): Thank you.

[3:32:50] Trustee Luckham (probable): All right then.

[3:32:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): So I'll turn to trustees to see if you concur.

[3:32:56] Trustee Luckham (probable): Trustee Patrick.

[3:32:57] Trustee Patrick: I'm pleased to make the motion

[3:32:58] Trustee Patrick: that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee

[3:33:00] Trustee Patrick: request staff to respond to the referral

[3:33:02] Trustee Patrick: from Galliano Island Local Trust Committee

[3:33:04] Trustee Patrick: for bylaws number 156 and 157

[3:33:07] Trustee Patrick: indicating that interests are unaffected.

[3:33:10] Voice 26: Second that.

[3:33:13] Voice 28: moved and seconded any further discussion all those in favor any

[3:33:23] Trustee Luckham (probable): opposed none opposed

[3:33:24] Trustee Luckham (probable): that carries also thank you so 18.1.3 closure of dormant files and i must say that due to covid i

[3:33:33] Trustee Luckham (probable): probably don't get out as often as i should do but this brought a great deal of joy to my life

[3:33:38] Trustee Luckham (probable): the day that i read that particularly the fact that we're going to advance pierce island

[3:33:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): and to get it off of our list so that they can be climate change compliant I

[3:33:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): guess the phrase I'm going to use but anyway let me turn to staff to advise us

[3:33:56] Trustee Luckham (probable): on these dormant files and I'm hoping that the LTC concurs with the

[3:34:01] Trustee Luckham (probable): recommendations thank

[3:34:04] Voice 16: you and staff were aware how you would probably feel about

[3:34:09] Voice 16: Piers Island. So this is due to the great diligence that we have of our legislative clerk.

[3:34:18] Voice 16: She monitors, as did the legislative clerks before her,

[3:34:22] Voice 16: monitor bylaws as they progress and where they stall and when they're closed. And we've been

[3:34:29] Voice 16: aware that there's been a number of bylaws that have been sort of, we've been uncertain about,

[3:34:34] Voice 16: that we didn't feel comfortable closing

[3:34:36] Voice 16: without getting a resolution from the LTC.

[3:34:40] Voice 16: You'll see each one of these has their own sort of story,

[3:34:43] Voice 16: which is in the report about where they went,

[3:34:45] Voice 16: why they stopped and why staff couldn't close it.

[3:34:49] Voice 16: You know, I'm happy to go into each bylaw if you want.

[3:34:52] Voice 16: I trust that the LTC has read the report.

[3:34:55] Voice 16: I will say basically the bylaw 408,

[3:34:57] Voice 16: the first one never actually appears

[3:35:00] Voice 16: to have even got first reading.

[3:35:01] Voice 16: so it's more of a and lots has happened since that one by the 419 was pretty much shot down

[3:35:09] Voice 16: by the province by the 491 is um pardon me the ganges boardwalk yeah that one is uh sort of

[3:35:19] Voice 16: i'll leave it up to the ltc what you'd like to do with that one but staff feel like it's already

[3:35:23] Voice 16: moved on and there's the direction the boardwalk or harbor walk has changed piers island pardon me

[3:35:30] Voice 16: is needs to be addressed it's legally required by the province to do so and then the final final

[3:35:36] Voice 16: one regulating cannabis production that's no longer a top priority and I think where that

[3:35:43] Voice 16: left off was that the LTC and staff concurred that a lot more engagement needed to happen and

[3:35:49] Voice 16: that there were other priorities so so happy to answer any questions the resolution is to

[3:35:55] Voice 16: proceed no further with for the bylaws bylaws but to um to proceed with piers island again as it is

[3:36:03] Voice 16: required by the province um

[3:36:06] Trustee Luckham (probable): thank you stefan for this report uh trustees uh what would you like to

[3:36:11] Trustee Luckham (probable): do do you have any questions or would you like to move to motions uh trustee patrick go ahead

[3:36:14] Trustee Luckham (probable): i

[3:36:15] Trustee Patrick: just had a question about paris island as we had you know began to rebuild a relationship with them

[3:36:22] Trustee Patrick: and wanted to make sure that this was going to be, you know,

[3:36:25] Trustee Patrick: that they're going to be fully involved and consulted again,

[3:36:29] Trustee Patrick: that we're not just proceeding without their input.

[3:36:37] Trustee Luckham (probable): I think we'd have to go to public hearing, would we not, Stefan?

[3:36:40] Voice 16: We would.

[3:36:43] Voice 16: So if I'm hearing the question is we have to go back to the community

[3:36:47] Voice 16: to show them any proposed amendments that the LTC wishes to make.

[3:36:53] Voice 16: The bylaw that was drafted, of course, was done with fair bit of engagement with the

[3:36:58] Voice 16: community, and it was the one that the community seemed to support.

[3:37:01] Voice 16: But of course, the province, as per the report, said that they can't support that resolution.

[3:37:07] Voice 16: They wanted numbers, targets, which to the community didn't make sense.

[3:37:13] Voice 16: They'd say, we don't have a baseline of information, and really, they had other plans and ideas

[3:37:17] Voice 16: for how to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions

[3:37:21] Voice 16: or their impact to the community.

[3:37:25] Voice 16: But it didn't match with what the province wanted.

[3:37:27] Voice 16: So long story short,

[3:37:29] Voice 16: the province wants those numbers in there.

[3:37:32] Voice 16: And I proposed as per staff resolutions

[3:37:35] Voice 16: that we put them in there,

[3:37:39] Voice 16: which is kind of an empty gesture,

[3:37:40] Voice 16: to be honest, to the community.

[3:37:42] Voice 16: And I think, but we have to be open with the community

[3:37:44] Voice 16: when we go back to them and tell them as such.

[3:37:45] Voice 16: And perhaps there's other things

[3:37:46] Voice 16: they'd like to tell the ltc or the ltc would hear from them am i it's a circular argument there

[3:37:57] Voice 3: trustee patrick i'm

[3:37:59] Trustee Patrick: just i'm i haven't had any conversations with transition or anyone else that

[3:38:03] Trustee Patrick: have been working on climate action here on salt spring if there's any interest in you know

[3:38:07] Trustee Patrick: reaching out and you know if

[3:38:09] Trustee Patrick: they had some alternative ideas that they wanted to work on and

[3:38:14] Trustee Patrick: whether they can have kind of a like here we have a climate action plan and and we have our

[3:38:18] Trustee Patrick: community official community plan that the two can be supportive of one another anyway

[3:38:33] Trustee Luckham (probable): what do

[3:38:37] Trustee Luckham (probable): we want to do with this these recommendations certainly there's opportunity to engage with the

[3:38:44] Trustee Luckham (probable): communities as we advance the work why

[3:38:56] Trustee Patrick: don't we deal with the easy one first we can get rid of

[3:38:58] Trustee Patrick: the ones that are dormant so I'll move that the Salt Spring Island local trust committee proceed

[3:39:02] Trustee Patrick: no further with bylaw number 408 the salt spring island local trust area agricultural regulations

[3:39:08] Trustee Patrick: bylaw number 419 cited as salt spring island trust area soil removal deposit fees and prohibition

[3:39:14] Trustee Patrick: bylaw number 419 and bylaw number 491 cited as salt spring island local

[3:39:22] Trustee Patrick: island land use bylaw 1999 amendment number 3 2016 and bylaw number 518 cited as salt spring island

[3:39:30] Trustee Patrick: own uh land use bylaw number one nine 1999 amendment number one 2019 i'll second that

[3:39:40] Voice 3: that's moved and seconded that's a good start thank you to

[3:39:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): steve patrick um uh any discussion

[3:39:47] Trustee Luckham (probable): all those in favor oh

[3:39:48] Trustee Patrick: sorry i just i had one one tiny bit i just i just think um uh the the i think

[3:39:54] Trustee Patrick: the cannabis one we can at least watch and see what you know continue to watch what gabriela

[3:39:58] Trustee Patrick: does and see how it works and so it's not like it's going away no

[3:40:05] Voice 3: the body of work is still there

[3:40:07] Voice 3: so yeah um so can i call the vote all those in favor any opposed none opposed so that carries

[3:40:18] Voice 3: so here

[3:40:20] Trustee Luckham (probable): we're at the piers island uh as the other option here bylaw number 493 i'll just remark um

[3:40:27] Trustee Luckham (probable): You know, I was naturally heavily involved in a number of LTCs as a vice chair back in those days, 2016, and indeed we went through all the LTCs and had great in-depth conversations.

[3:40:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): Naturally, when we got to the smaller associated islands and other smaller areas that are less populated, and quite honestly, about as climate friendly as a place ever gets, their power consumption and energy consumption is completely negligible on a global scale.

[3:41:12] Trustee Luckham (probable): We got a lot of pushback from communities about why are you doing this and it doesn't apply to us, etc, etc, etc.

[3:41:21] Trustee Luckham (probable): And indeed, Piers Island had their own ideas and suggestions, you know, they're using golf carts, electric, many have very small impact on the natural environment and the production of GHGs is absolutely minimal.

[3:41:39] Trustee Luckham (probable): And we, you know, I would say we've bent the rules successfully in a number of places by suggesting that LTCs would meet 50% of the requirements as specified by surrounding areas or something, some language around that line, which just simply tosses a number out.

[3:42:00] Trustee Luckham (probable): And those were adopted by Valdez, by associated islands around Cetus Island, others.

[3:42:12] Trustee Luckham (probable): And with peers, we brought a consultant in, and for some reason they decided that it was

[3:42:19] Trustee Luckham (probable): not necessary to include a number. And to use Stefan Cermak's phrase, that notion was shot down

[3:42:27] Trustee Luckham (probable): and burning flames. So created its own greenhouse gases, I'm sure. And so now here we are for all

[3:42:34] Trustee Luckham (probable): these years, what is a legal requirement of this LTC to adopt greenhouse gas numerical numbers for

[3:42:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): reduction is outstanding. And so we simply need to do that. I can, I certainly want to

[3:42:52] Trustee Luckham (probable): engage with the Piers Island community. I don't imagine that the story is going to be very

[3:42:59] Trustee Luckham (probable): different. And I'm perfectly sympathetic. I am sympathetic with the notion that this

[3:43:05] Trustee Luckham (probable): methodology doesn't apply to small communities, but we're not about to change

[3:43:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): the government's mind on this, especially this late into it. And I would suggest we adopt the

[3:43:18] Trustee Luckham (probable): that language has been used on other LTCs of similar scale

[3:43:23] Trustee Luckham (probable): to Deer's Island and certainly would warmly welcome

[3:43:29] Trustee Luckham (probable): any kind of climate action initiatives by that community

[3:43:33] Trustee Luckham (probable): outside of the fact that they live and breathe

[3:43:35] Trustee Luckham (probable): climate action initiatives every day.

[3:43:39] Trustee Luckham (probable): And no disrespect intended, but difficult to compare

[3:43:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): Deer's Island to Salt Spring in terms of greenhouse

[3:43:45] Trustee Luckham (probable): gas emissions.

[3:43:46] Trustee Luckham (probable): missions. Anyway, those are my two cents. It's up to the LTSU what you want to do.

[3:43:54] Trustee Grove: I agree with you, Peter, if I may, but we have to make sure we explain what we're doing

[3:44:00] Trustee Grove: to the community, either by a mass email or something like that. But it's the logical,

[3:44:07] Trustee Grove: and it's the only thing to do.

[3:44:11] Trustee Luckham (probable): Absolutely. Maybe we can actually visit their island,

[3:44:13] Trustee Luckham (probable): because maybe the COVID restrictions will be less by then, because we certainly did at the

[3:44:17] Trustee Luckham (probable): the time and it was a pleasure to be there uh trustee patrick i

[3:44:21] Trustee Patrick: was gonna say i could i get

[3:44:22] Trustee Patrick: out because because i do respect the relationship that we're there we're trying to rebuild with them

[3:44:26] Trustee Patrick: um and that you know this has been sitting for a long time i was wondering if we could defer this

[3:44:30] Trustee Patrick: a meeting um making the decision but give them a heads up that we're going to make this that we're

[3:44:36] Trustee Patrick: going to reactivate this so that i just think it would be polite to the community so you know i i

[3:44:42] Trustee Patrick: I know everyone's a little testy with the, with the pandemic right now.

[3:44:46] Trustee Patrick: And I just, you know, I,

[3:44:48] Trustee Patrick: I know I reached out to some of their community leaders over the pandemic to

[3:44:51] Trustee Patrick: see how they were doing.

[3:44:52] Trustee Patrick: And I got all reassurances that they're all great and taking good care of

[3:44:56] Trustee Patrick: each other. And I just think we should be ultimately respectful of that

[3:45:01] Trustee Patrick: relationship. So I think just deferring this one,

[3:45:04] Trustee Patrick: one meeting and just giving them a heads up that we're going to activate

[3:45:07] Trustee Patrick: this would be the polite thing to do in the circumstances of the

[3:45:12] Trustee Patrick: the testiness of the pandemic here um

[3:45:15] Trustee Grove: i have no problem with that how does one let them know that

[3:45:18] Trustee Grove: that's what we're going to do just a mass email they

[3:45:22] Trustee Patrick: have a a rate payers association

[3:45:25] Trustee Patrick: the

[3:45:25] Trustee Luckham (probable): rate payers is the conduit for us

[3:45:28] Trustee Patrick: i think if we could

[3:45:29] Trustee Luckham (probable): just give them

[3:45:30] Trustee Patrick: a heads up that we're

[3:45:31] Trustee Patrick: going to be making this at the next meeting and you know it just i don't know how people feel

[3:45:37] Trustee Patrick: about that i just think it would maybe land a little bit smoother that's all so can i get a

[3:45:42] Trustee Patrick: motion to that

[3:45:42] Trustee Luckham (probable): effect to defer this

[3:45:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): until our next meeting and direct

[3:45:45] Trustee Luckham (probable): staff to communicate

[3:45:46] Trustee Luckham (probable): yeah

[3:45:47] Trustee Patrick: i move that we defer um what do you want to call it uh motion number two in the may 25th

[3:45:55] Trustee Patrick: staff report on dormant bylaws until our june 29th meeting i'll

[3:46:05] Voice 26: second that oh

[3:46:07] Trustee Luckham (probable): and did you say

[3:46:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): and communicate with the ratepayers association i

[3:46:11] Trustee Patrick: i did not but i'm happy to add uh add that uh

[3:46:14] Trustee Patrick: add that yeah our intentions um i

[3:46:18] Trustee Patrick: think is the word yep you

[3:46:22] Trustee Luckham (probable): okay with that stefan okay so

[3:46:26] Trustee Grove: sorry if i if i may i can communicate our intentions with an explanation as to why

[3:46:31] Trustee Grove: because we have no option really

[3:46:34] Voice 3: i'm sure that stefan

[3:46:37] Trustee Luckham (probable): will articulate a beautiful message

[3:46:43] Trustee Luckham (probable): Um, any more discussion? I'll call for the vote. All those in favor? And Sarah, I'm trusting you

[3:46:51] Trustee Luckham (probable): you captured that.

[3:46:56] Voice 12: Yes, I've got that. Thanks, Chair.

[3:46:58] Trustee Luckham (probable): Thank you, Sarah. All right. I think that

[3:47:02] Trustee Luckham (probable): does it for dormant files. And thank you for that. And thank you for supporting being respectful to

[3:47:14] Trustee Luckham (probable): the piers island community because absolutely we want to do that every step of the way

[3:47:21] Trustee Luckham (probable): um where possible so thank you laura for that all right let's go to the next item here now

[3:47:30] Trustee Luckham (probable): um i seem to have lost my quotes

[3:47:40] Trustee Grove: annual report 18.1.4 okay

[3:47:45] Trustee Luckham (probable): perfect thank you closure of dormant

[3:47:47] Trustee Luckham (probable): by-laws. That's why I was lost. 18.1.4, annual report. Here we are once again. I write a chair's

[3:47:56] Trustee Luckham (probable): letter every year, and it seems to me that that letter is required every couple of months.

[3:48:02] Trustee Luckham (probable): Here we are, annual report for Salt Spring Island, and staff have crafted a potential

[3:48:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): submission. And so this is your opportunity to chime in as to whether or not this meets

[3:48:15] Trustee Luckham (probable): your expectations there only needs to be a summary there's some lots more detail

[3:48:20] Trustee Luckham (probable): that goes into it trustee Patrick over to you I

[3:48:23] Trustee Patrick: just had a couple of minor

[3:48:26] Trustee Patrick: minor words on the word said keep projects initiated it refers to a

[3:48:32] Trustee Patrick: housing action plan I guess I thought of calling a housing action program or the

[3:48:37] Trustee Patrick: plant I just I know there will be a plan I guess at the outcome but so I just

[3:48:43] Trustee Patrick: just want to make sure we're being consistent with words and the second one is it said that

[3:48:46] Trustee Patrick: the salt spring isle received the capital regional district's housing needs report

[3:48:50] Trustee Patrick: should we not say that the capital regional district did the report on our behalf

[3:48:56] Trustee Patrick: and we received it because we had we had the responsibility to do the report to through the

[3:49:03] Trustee Patrick: local government act they did it on our behalf as a regional project we

[3:49:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): partnered with or

[3:49:09] Trustee Luckham (probable): something

[3:49:09] Trustee Patrick: just needs to be worded there to be so that we didn't that we we did we we were the

[3:49:17] Trustee Patrick: ones that were responsible stefan

[3:49:22] Trustee Luckham (probable): do you have any remarks there for that language i totally

[3:49:27] Voice 16: understand what you're saying for i'm having a like a tunnel vision trying to read where that

[3:49:32] Voice 16: where oh

[3:49:33] Trustee Patrick: sorry it's the it's the second paragraph from the end on page 137 it starts with the salt

[3:49:38] Trustee Patrick: Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee applied for

[3:49:40] Trustee Patrick: and received a grant for the thing.

[3:49:43] Trustee Patrick: And then it has Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee

[3:49:46] Trustee Patrick: also received Capital Regional Housing Needs Report

[3:49:50] Trustee Patrick: for Salt Spring Island.

[3:49:52] Voice 16: Understood, so how about the SSLTC also worked with

[3:49:56] Voice 16: and received from the CRD a Housing Needs Report

[3:50:01] Voice 16: for Salt Spring Island?

[3:50:03] Trustee Patrick: Something like that, just to indicate that we were.

[3:50:11] Trustee Luckham (probable): Perfect. Anything else on that report? Letter?

[3:50:15] Trustee Luckham (probable): Nope.

[3:50:17] Trustee Luckham (probable): Okay. Stefan, do you need a motion to that, or can you just amend that as directed?

[3:50:25] Voice 16: We

[3:50:26] Trustee Patrick: could just say as discussed or something. I think it's a bit

[3:50:29] Trustee Patrick: finer in the motion.

[3:50:31] Trustee Patrick: I

[3:50:32] Voice 16: can work with that as long as you're all happy.

[3:50:35] Voice 16: That's the LTC.

[3:50:36] Voice 16: Amended as discussed.

[3:50:37] Voice 16: I'm having a little computer glitches here. The LTC also worked with and received from.

[3:50:47] Voice 16: I got it.

[3:50:50] Trustee Luckham (probable): And then you've got the first one already. Just like change of word.

[3:50:54] Trustee Patrick: Housing action plan. Housing action program.

[3:50:58] Voice 16: Yeah, I don't have the immediate wording in front of me, but I'm happy to ensure that it's correct.

[3:51:02] Trustee Patrick: Yeah, just double check.

[3:51:05] Voice 16: So motion

[3:51:07] Trustee Luckham (probable): to amend the annual report as discussed.

[3:51:13] Trustee Patrick: or can we just make the endorse it amended as discussed

[3:51:18] Trustee Luckham (probable): consent sure

[3:51:20] Trustee Patrick: i'm

[3:51:21] Trustee Luckham (probable): all right with that

[3:51:22] Trustee Luckham (probable): let's do that

[3:51:23] Trustee Patrick: i'll move that the salt spring island local trust committee endorse

[3:51:26] Trustee Patrick: the following text amended as discussed for inclusion in the 2020 21 annual report for

[3:51:35] Trustee Patrick: approval by the islands trust council and submission to the minister of municipal affairs

[3:51:38] Trustee Patrick: and housing.

[3:51:40] Trustee Grove: I second that we don't we shouldn't have the following because we're not going to

[3:51:44] Trustee Grove: read it out.

[3:51:47] Voice 16: Yeah you don't need the following. It was a debate among staff as to what the proper

[3:51:51] Voice 16: format is. You can say as per the report. Sorry I'm confusing the issue.

[3:51:57] Trustee Luckham (probable): Yeah no you didn't.

[3:51:59] Trustee Luckham (probable): Sarah you want to bring that up on the screen for us just to be certain.

[3:52:04] Trustee Patrick: It doesn't I didn't say following. Oh following text. I see endorse the following. You're right

[3:52:10] Trustee Patrick: endorse hi

[3:52:17] Voice 12: Charlie come are you changing so you're not including all of the text

[3:52:23] Voice 12: that follows the motion no I

[3:52:25] Trustee Luckham (probable): think

[3:52:28] Trustee Patrick: it just has to be the text as presented by

[3:52:32] Trustee Patrick: staff as amended or something like that something something yeah

[3:52:37] Trustee Luckham (probable): endorse the

[3:52:39] Trustee Luckham (probable): text as presented in the staff report there you go

[3:52:42] Trustee Luckham (probable): as amended okay

[3:52:48] Voice 12: would you

[3:52:50] Voice 12: like me to read that back or that

[3:52:52] Voice 3: would be good thank you okay

[3:52:53] Voice 12: but the salt spring island local

[3:52:55] Voice 12: trust committee endorsed the 2020 2021 annual report for approval by the islands trust council

[3:53:01] Voice 12: and submission to the minister of municipal affairs and housing as presented in the staff report

[3:53:06] Voice 12: as amended i

[3:53:10] Voice 26: second that yeah

[3:53:14] Trustee Luckham (probable): there's maybe too many ads was in there but i think it gets the

[3:53:16] Trustee Luckham (probable): drift of it so that's fine so are we so it's moved and seconded any discussion all those in favor

[3:53:23] Trustee Luckham (probable): that carries all right um next item 18.1.5 salt spring and southern gulf island short-term

[3:53:31] Trustee Luckham (probable): vacational rental discussion well this is an exciting moment um and trustee patrick i thank

[3:53:37] Trustee Luckham (probable): you for your comments earlier in emails um this is a verbal report uh and then you're providing it

[3:53:46] Trustee Luckham (probable): go ahead sure

[3:53:47] Trustee Patrick: well it was me who instigated it it just took a while to get everyone to vote on it

[3:53:51] Trustee Patrick: so we had representatives from every island except for North Pender but South Pender was there

[3:53:57] Trustee Patrick: it was a good discussion very quickly I think everyone was quite quickly interested in

[3:54:04] Trustee Patrick: pursuing the CRD to be interested in business licenses I've already got good news from the

[3:54:10] Trustee Patrick: Southern Gulf Island alternate that Dave Howe is embracing the idea and is already

[3:54:16] Trustee Patrick: making inquiries with staff and moving things forward so just having the conversation is

[3:54:21] Trustee Patrick: already netting uh interest with the crd this was we did had no expectations that this would

[3:54:27] Trustee Patrick: be something quick it was just to get it on the table and get the conversations happening so

[3:54:32] Trustee Patrick: um south pender has passed the motion um saturn didn't feel they had to make the motion because

[3:54:39] Trustee Patrick: the alternative electoral director is also a trustee and felt that there was no that they

[3:54:46] Trustee Patrick: were already well beyond the motion um but uh i think making the motion for salt spring is a good

[3:54:52] Trustee Patrick: thing to do and i'm happy to make that motion of moving on to the next item chair well

[3:55:00] Trustee Luckham (probable): yeah i think

[3:55:01] Trustee Luckham (probable): um i guess the 18.1.5 is the concept 18.1.6 is the local motion um and i'll just uh are there any uh

[3:55:11] Trustee Luckham (probable): Any questions or comments, Trustee Grove, on the concept?

[3:55:15] Trustee Luckham (probable): No?

[3:55:16] Trustee Luckham (probable): Okay.

[3:55:16] Trustee Luckham (probable): So, you know, I'll just say I am interested in, I think the devil is in the detail on

[3:55:20] Trustee Luckham (probable): this one, and it's going to be interesting to see what the CRD comes up with to facilitate

[3:55:27] Trustee Luckham (probable): this in a good way.

[3:55:29] Trustee Luckham (probable): So I look forward to it, and I'm certainly interested in a motion from the LTC as well.

[3:55:33] Trustee Luckham (probable): So let's move to 18.1.6 and get this staff report.

[3:55:40] Trustee Patrick: All right.

[3:55:40] Trustee Patrick: this motion does has a whereas but that's because of the nuance to be shared so um i'll move that

[3:55:50] Trustee Patrick: i guess it's uh whereas the salt spring island local trust committee wishes to see appropriate

[3:55:55] Trustee Patrick: regulation and management of short-term vacation rentals on salt spring island but lacks the full

[3:56:00] Trustee Patrick: range of tools for enforcement and administration of vacation rentals therefore uh salt spring

[3:56:04] Trustee Patrick: island local trust committee requests that the capital regional district explore the implementation

[3:56:09] Trustee Patrick: of business licensing for tourist accommodation

[3:56:12] Trustee Patrick: and specifically for short-term vacation rentals.

[3:56:17] Trustee Luckham (probable): Moved, seconded, any discussion?

[3:56:20] Trustee Luckham (probable): All those in favor?

[3:56:23] Trustee Luckham (probable): Trustee Patrick, go ahead.

[3:56:25] Trustee Patrick: No, I was just gonna say that you're correct.

[3:56:28] Trustee Patrick: This is not something that happens quickly.

[3:56:30] Trustee Patrick: It's a process to get going, so.

[3:56:35] Trustee Luckham (probable): Yeah, I look forward to it.

[3:56:36] Trustee Luckham (probable): So it's good to have this conversation.

[3:56:38] Trustee Luckham (probable): I'm really glad that both of the directors are supporting it

[3:56:41] Trustee Luckham (probable): and we'll see where that goes so all those in favor none opposed so that carries well believe

[3:56:50] Trustee Luckham (probable): it or not at 1 45 we're at the end of our agenda and our next meeting is scheduled for 9 30 on june

[3:56:58] Trustee Luckham (probable): the 29th and unless there's any further business i'll call for adjournment trustee grove called

[3:57:08] Trustee Luckham (probable): for adjournment trustee all those in favor that carries so staff everybody stefan your whole

[3:57:15] Trustee Luckham (probable): whole team thank you very much for all of your support for the ltc and and um we look forward

[3:57:21] Trustee Luckham (probable): to a really full agenda next time because that seems to me that's how it works anyway and thank

[3:57:28] Trustee Luckham (probable): you for piers island everybody we'll all talk to you later have a great night

Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee Minutes ADOPTED 1 
May 25, 2021 
  
 
Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee 
Minutes of Regular Meeting 
 
 
Date: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 
  
Location: Electronic Meeting 
  
Members Present: Peter Luckham, Chair  
Peter Grove, Local Trustee 
Laura Patrick, Local Trustee 
 
Staff Present: Stefan Cermak, Regional Planning Manager (RPM) 
Jason Youmans, Island Planner  
Louisa Garbo, Island Planner 
Geordie Gordon, Planner 2 
Kristine Mayes, Planner 1 
Rob Pingle, Planning Team Assistant 
Sylvia Oliver, Office Administrative Assistant 
Sarah Shugar, Recorder 
  
Media and Others Present: Gary Holman, Capital Regional District (CRD) Salt Spring Island Electoral 
Area Director 
Shannon Cowan, Salt Spring Island Watershed Protection Alliance 
Coordinator  
Approximately 22 members of the public  
 
These minutes follow the order of the agenda although the sequence may have varied.  
 
1. CALL TO ORDER 
  
 Chair Luckham called the meeting to order at 9:30 a.m. and welcomed everyone to an electronic 
meeting of the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee. Chair Luckham introduced himself, the 
Trustees and staff and stated gratitude to live and work in Coast Salish First Nations treaty and 
traditional territory.  
 
2.
 
APPROVAL OF AGENDA   
 
 The following additional items were presented for inclusion in the agenda: 
 9.1 Water Sustainability 
9.2  Housing  Action  Program  Project  and  Ganges  Village  Area  Planning  Project – Verbal 
Update 
 
 By general consent, the agenda was adopted as amended. 
 
 
3.  PREVIOUS MEETINGS 

 
 
Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee Minutes ADOPTED 2 
May 25, 2021 
  
 
 
3.1   Draft Minutes of the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee  
 
  3.1.1     Draft Minutes of the April 27, 2021 SSI LTC Regular Meeting  
  
  By  general  consent, the  minutes  of the April  27, 2021 Salt Spring  Island  Local 
Trust Committee meeting were adopted. 
 
3.2  Resolutions Without Meeting Report - None 
 
 3.3  Draft Minutes of the Advisory Planning Commissions  
 
  3.3.1 Draft Minutes of the April 15, 2021 Ganges Village Planning Task Force Meeting  
 
   The minutes were received. 
 3.4 Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee Public Hearing Record – None 
4. RISE AND REPORT 
 4.1 SSI LTC In-Camera Meeting of April 27, 2021 
 
 The Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee appointed Maïkan (Forest) Bordeleau, Daniel 
Wood,  Amber  Anderson,  Stanley  J.  Shapiro,  James  W.  Back,  Kerrie  Proulx,  Meror 
Krayenhoff, Nejmah Guermoudi, Yvonne Saunders, Jessica Terezakis, Bryce Chapman and 
Rhonan Heitzmann to the Housing Action Program Task Force. 
 
5.  BUSINESS ARISING FROM MINUTES 
 5.1 Follow Up Action List dated May 2021 
  The report was received.  
6. COMMUNITY INFORMATION MEETING - None  
 
7. PUBLIC HEARING - None  
 
8.  REPORTS 
 
 8.1 Policy and Standing Resolutions List  
 
The report was received. 
 
  
 
 
 

 
 
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 SS-2021-95
 
 It was MOVED and SECONDED,
 
That the Salt Spring Local Trust Committee direct staff to report on options to clarify and 
allow for and the conditions of use of portable sawmills for processing materials harvested 
on site for onsite use. 
CARRIED 
 
8.2 Work Program Top Priorities Report dated May 2021  
 The report was received. 
8.3 Projects List dated May 2021 
 The report was received.
 
8.4 Applications with Status Report dated May 2021  
 The report was received.
 
8.5 Expense Report - None
 
8.6 Islands Trust Conservancy Board Report - None 
8.7 Salt Spring Island Watershed Protection Alliance (SSIWPA) Coordinator's Report  
 Salt Spring Island Watershed Protection Alliance (SSIWPA) Coordinator Cowan presented a 
verbal report. 
9. 
LOCAL TRUST COMMITTEE PROJECTS  
 9.1 Water Sustainability  
Planner  Youmans  presented  a staff report dated May  19,  2021  regarding options  to 
coordinate the Protection of Coastal Douglas-fir Zone and Associated Ecosystems project 
and the Watershed Stewardship and Protection Strategic Plan project. 
SS-2021-96 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That  the  Salt  Spring  Island  Local  Trust  Committee  amend  Salt  Spring  Island  Watershed 
Stewardship and Protection Strategic Plan Project Charter v0.1 attached as Appendix 4 to 
the staff  report  of  May  25,  2021  as  follows:  By  adding,  at  the  end  of  the  third  in-scope 
bullet point: “Engagement will include subject-specific stakeholder engagement on Coastal 
Douglas Fir and Associated Ecosystem Protection in the context of watershed protection.”  
CARRIED 
 
 

 
 
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SS-2021-97 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That  the  Salt  Spring  Island  Local  Trust  Committee amend  Salt  Spring  Island  Watershed 
Stewardship and Protection Strategic Plan Project Charter v0.1 attached as Appendix 4 to 
the staff report of May 25, 2021 as follows: 
a. Change the words in the purpose statement “decision makers” to “Salt Spring Island 
Watershed Protection Alliance Member Agencies”; 
b. Change the words in the Objective 2 “decision makers” to “Salt Spring Island Watershed 
Protection Alliance Member Agencies”; and add the words “coordinating and” before 
the  word  “advancing” so  it  reads:  “to  better  support  Salt  Spring  Island  Watershed 
Protection  Alliance  Member  Agencies  in  coordinating  and  advancing  effective, 
equitable, and modernized land and water use planning by developing a strategic plan 
to guide and prioritize watershed protection work on Salt Spring Island on a medium 
term (5-to-10 years) time frame.”; 
c. Change bullet 5 in  the  In Scope section  item  1 to  read:  “Assess  the  performance  of 
SSIWPA” by deleting the words “current watershed stewardship and protection bodies 
on Salt Spring Island”; and 
d. Add “Recommendation  and  justification  for the 2022/23  Special  Tax  Requisition 
amount” with a due date commensurate with the Trust Council budget process to the 
In Scope section item 1. 
 CARRIED 
 
SS-2021-98 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That  the  Salt  Spring  Island  Local  Trust  Committee  endorse  in  principle  Salt  Spring  Island 
Watershed  Stewardship  and Protection  Strategic  Plan  Project  Charter  v0.1  attached  as 
Appendix 4 to the staff report dated May 25, 2021 as amended. 
CARRIED 
 
SS-2021-99 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That  the  Salt  Spring  Island  Local  Trust  Committee direct  staff  to  schedule  a  special  joint 
meeting of the Coastal Douglas Fir Science Working Group and the Salt Spring Island Local 
Trust Committee to discuss possible next steps for the Coastal Douglas Fir and Associated 
Ecosystem Protection project. 
CARRIED 
The meeting recessed at 10:56 a.m. and reconvened at 11:05 a.m. 
9.2 Housing  Action Program Project  and  Ganges  Village  Area  Planning  Project – Verbal 
Update 
   
Planner Garbo  presented  a  verbal  update  regarding  the  Housing  Action  Project  and the 
Ganges Village Area Planning Project. 
 
10. CLOSED MEETING  
 

 
 
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 10.1 Motion to Close the Meeting  
 SS-2021-100 
At  11:17  a.m., It  was  MOVED  and  SECONDED, that  the Salt  Spring  Island  Local  Trust 
Committee close this meeting to the public subject to Community Charter Section 90 (1):  
(a)  personal  information  about  an  identifiable  individual  who  holds  or  is  being 
considered for a position as an officer, employee or agent of the municipality or 
another position appointed by the municipality;  
(e)  the acquisition, disposition or expropriation of land or improvements, if the council 
considers that disclosure could reasonably be expected to harm the interests of the 
municipality; and that staff be invited to remain. 
CARRIED 
 
10.2 Motion to Open the Meeting  
SS-2021-101 
At  11:39  a.m., It  was  MOVED  and  SECONDED, that  the  Salt  Spring  Island  Local  Trust 
Committee  re-open  this  meeting  to  the  public  subject  to  Section  89  of  the  Community 
Charter. 
CARRIED 
 
The meeting recessed for a lunch break at 11:40 a.m. and reconvened at 12:00 p.m. 
 
 10.3 Rise and Report  
 
The Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee reappointed Jeff Thompson, Jean Brouard, Neil 
Morie and Francine Carlin to the Advisory Planning Commission for a further two-year term, 
effective June 1, 2021. 
 
The Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee appointed Mairi Welman, Ron Cooke, Leigh 
Large  and  Elissa  Poole  to  the  Advisory  Planning  Commission  for  a  period  of  two  years, 
effective June 1, 2021. 
 
The Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee reappointed Ken Byron, Bree Eagle, Conrad 
Pilon and Jan Steinman to the Agricultural Advisory Planning Commission for further two-
year term, effective June 1, 2021. 
 
The  Salt Spring  Island  Local  Trust  Committee  appointed Nathan  Roberson  to  the 
Agricultural Advisory Planning Commission for a period of two years, effective June 1, 2021. 
 
The  Salt Spring  Island  Local  Trust  Committee  thank  Advisory  Planning  Commissioners 
Margaret  Squires,  Susan  Hannon,  Janet  Stethem  and  Richard  Hayden,  and  Agricultural 
Advisory Planning Commissioner Ruth Waldick for their service. 
 
The Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee appointed Jennifer Maksymetz to the vacant 
seat on the Ganges Village Planning Task Force. 
 
 

 
 
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11. TRUSTEE REPORTS  
 
Trustee Grove presented the following report: 
 Expressed condolences to the family of Sinikka Elliott and acknowledged the efforts of the 
search and rescue groups; 
 He spoke to difficult times during the COVID pandemic and spoke to kindness, support and 
communication; 
 He spoke to lifting the BC Health Directive restrictions and the associated impacts to the 
community and local businesses; 
 The Housing Action Program Task Force held an inaugural meeting; 
 The Ganges Village Area Plan Task Force held two meetings; 
 The  Coastal  Douglas  Fir  and  Associated  Ecosystems  project  and  the  Water  Sustainability 
project are in progress.  
 
Trustee Patrick presented the following report: 
 She spoke to difficult times during the COVID pandemic;  
 She expressed  support  for  Trustees  responsibility  towards  the  constituency  and  the 
environment. She  spoke  to  a  recent  article  in  the  Driftwood  newspaper  that  speaks  to 
conservationists  integrating  human  issues  of  justice,  race  and  class  into  environmental 
values;  
 She expressed support for working together and for consideration of other viewpoints to 
work towards innovative solutions; 
 Attended the Saturna Island, South Pender Island, and two North Pender Island Local Trust 
Committee meetings; 
 Attended a Southern Gulf Island Forum regarding common issues across the Southern Gulf 
Islands; 
 Attended a Trust Programs Committee meeting regarding review of the draft Islands Trust 
Policy Statement and an Executive Committee meeting; 
 Attended  a  meeting  with Salt  Spring Island and  Southern  Gulf  Island  Trustees regarding 
regional options to address short-term vacation rentals.  
 Attended a special meeting for Trust Council’s Freshwater Strategic Planning Initiative with 
Indigenous Knowledge Holders; 
 Attended a Regional Planning Committee meeting regarding the fees bylaws; 
 Attended a Salt Spring Island Economic Development Commission meeting. The Salt Spring 
Arts Council has expanded the Artcraft region of eligibility to include First Nations territorial 
regions; 
 Attended a Let’s Beef Up Our Food Security: Building Healthy Abundant Food Systems event 
hosted by Transition Salt Spring; 
 Attended an Ask Salt Spring event. 
 
12.  CHAIR'S REPORT  
 
Chair Luckham presented the following report: 
 Expressed condolences to the family and community of Sinikka Elliott; 
 Attended a special meeting for Trust Council’s Freshwater Strategic Planning initiative; 

 
 
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 He spoke to the First Nation communities and activities on the West Coast; 
 Attended  a  number  of  meetings  with  the  Executive  Committee, the Trust  Programs 
Committee and the Regional Planning Committee. 
 
13.  CRD DIRECTOR'S REPORT  
 
 Director Holman presented the following report: 
 Salt Spring Island Fire Rescue has announced the intention to schedule a referendum for a 
new public safety building in Fall 2021. Director Holman encouraged community members 
to  support  a  new  public  safety  building.  The  CRD  and  Salt  Spring  Island  Fire  Rescue  are 
considering the colocation of a new Emergency Operations Centre within a public safety 
building.  
 He expressed support for a proposed Rogers - CREST tower in the Channel Ridge area to 
improve emergency telecommunications in the north and west areas of Salt Spring Island. 
 The Salt Spring Island Transportation Commission recently held a site visit at El Taco Loco. 
Director Holman expressed support to consider pedestrian and cycling safety in addition to 
parking requirements at the subject property. 
 The Salt Spring Island Transportation Commission and BC Transit are seeking public input 
regarding proposed changes to improve the Salt Spring Island transit system. 
 The CRD Board will consider a notice of motion to request the Provincial Government to 
implement the British Columbia Old Growth Strategy.  
14. CORRESPONDENCE
 
Correspondence  received  concerning  current  applications  and/or  projects  is posted to  the  LTC 
webpage. 
 
14.1 R. Laing to LTC - Dated April 19, 2021 - Concerning "Bright Green Lies"  
 
 
The correspondence item was received.
 
14.2 S. Stoss to LTC - Dated April 16, 2021 - Concerning various topics 
  The correspondence item was received. 
14.3 D. Hewitt to LTC - Dated April 27, 2021 - Concerning April 27, 2021 Local Trust Committee 
meeting  
 The correspondence item was received.
 
14.4 M. Moore to BC Hydro, cc. LTC et al - Dated May 9, 2021 - Concerning branch trimming 
during nesting season  
 The correspondence item was received. 
 

 
 
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14.5 J. McClean to LTC - Dated May 11, 2021 - Concerning expiry of affordable covenant for 
121 Atkins Road, SSI  
 The correspondence item was received. 
SS-2021-102 
 It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
 That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee request staff to report back at the next 
meeting regarding correspondence item 14.5 - J. McClean to LTC - Dated May 11, 2021 - 
Concerning expiry of affordable covenant for 121 Atkins Road. 
CARRIED  
  
14.6   B.  Young,  Chair  of  Transition  Salt  Spring  to  LTC - Dated  May  12,  2021 - Concerning 
opposition to amending the Policy Statement to exclude communities 
 
  The correspondence item was received. 
 
15. DELEGATIONS  
  
 15.1 O. McOuat - Concerning the proposed Rogers - CREST tower on Channel Ridge, SSI  
 
  O. McOuat presented a PowerPoint presentation on the proposed Rogers - CREST tower on 
Channel Ridge. She expressed concerns related to 5G technology, potential for small cell 
antennae  installations, wildfire  risk, proximity  to  houses,  impacts  to  climate  change  and 
electromagnetic  frequency  (EMF)  radiation. Ms.  McOuat  requested  the Local  Trust 
Committee to take a precautionary approach and issue a statement of non-concurrence. 
 
16.  TOWN HALL & QUESTIONS  
 
Chair Luckham opened the Town Hall at 12:48 p.m.   
 
Ten members of the public expressed concerns regarding the proposed Rogers – CREST tower on 
Channel Ridge and requested the Local Trust Committee to issue a statement of non-concurrence. 
 
A  member of the  public expressed  concerns  regarding  the  proposed  Rogers – CREST  tower on 
Channel  Ridge, on  behalf  of  Gulf  Islanders  for  Safe  Technology  and  requested  the Local  Trust 
Committee to issue a statement of non-concurrence. 
17. APPLICATIONS AND REFERRALS – None 
18. OTHER BUSINESS  
 18.1 New Business  
 

 
 
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  18.1.1   Galiano Island Local Trust Committee Referral of Proposed Bylaw No. 278 
RPM  Cermak  presented  a  staff  report  dated  May  4,  2021  regarding  a Bylaw 
Referral from Galiano Island Local Trust Committee.
 
  SS-2021-103 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee request staff to respond to the 
referral  from  the  Galiano  Island  Local  Trust  Committee  for  Bylaw  No.  278 
indicating that interests are unaffected.  
CARRIED
 
18.1.2 Galiano Island Local Trust Committee Referral of Proposed Bylaw Nos. 256 and 
257  
RPM  Cermak  presented  a  staff  report  dated  May  4,  2021  regarding  a Bylaw 
Referral from Galiano Island Local Trust Committee. 
  SS-2021-104 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee request staff to respond to the 
referral from the Galiano Island Local Trust Committee for Bylaw Nos. 256 & 257 
indicating that interests are unaffected.  
CARRIED 
  18.1.3 Closure of Dormant Bylaws  
 RPM Cermak presented a staff report dated May 12, 2021 regarding 5 dormant 
SS LTC generated bylaws.  
SS-2021-105 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee proceed no further with: 
a. Bylaw No. 408, Salt Spring Island Local Trust Area Agricultural Regulations;  
b. Bylaw No. 419, cited as “Salt Spring Island Local Trust Area Soil Removal and 
Deposit Fees and Prohibition Bylaw, No. 419”;  
c. Bylaw  No.  491,  cited  as  “Salt  Spring  Island  Land  Use Bylaw,  1999, 
Amendment No. 3, 2016”; and  
d. Bylaw  No.  518,  cited  as  “Salt  Spring  Island  Land  Use  Bylaw,  1999, 
Amendment No. 1, 2019”.  
CARRIED 
 
 
 
 

 
 
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SS-2021-106 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee defer the motion in the staff 
report dated May 12, 2021 regarding Piers Island Official Community Plan Bylaw 
No.  493 and  request  staff  to  communicate  with  the  Piers  Island  Ratepayers 
Association. 
CARRIED 
  18.1.4 Annual Report 
 RPM Cermak presented a staff report dated May 12, 2021 regarding the 2020 -
2021 Annual Report. 
SS-2021-107 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
That the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee endorse the 2020-2021 Annual 
Report for approval by the Islands Trust Council and submission to the Minister 
of Municipal Affairs & Housing as presented in the staff report, as amended. 
CARRIED 
  18.1.5 Salt Spring and Southern Gulf Islands: Short-Term Vacation Rental Discussion  
The minutes of the May 6, 2021 meeting of the Salt Spring and Southern Gulf 
Island  Trustees  Short-Term  Vacation  Rental  Discussion were  provided  for 
information.  
 18.1.6   Tourist Accommodation Business Licensing - Staff Report 
A memorandum  dated  May  12,  2021  regarding Business  Licensing  was 
presented.
 
SS-2021-108 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
Whereas the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee wishes to see appropriate 
regulation and management of short term vacation rentals on Salt Spring Island 
but lacks the full range of tools for enforcement and administration of vacation 
rentals; Therefore the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee requests that the 
Capital  Regional  District  explore  the  implementation  of  business  licensing  for 
tourist accommodation and specifically for short term vacation rentals.  
CARRIED 
 
19.  UPCOMING MEETINGS  
 
The next regular meeting of the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee is scheduled on June 29, 
2021  at 9:30  a.m. Check  the  website  at  www.islandstrust.bc.ca  for  details  regarding  upcoming 
meetings.  

 
 
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20. ADJOURNMENT 
 
By general consent the meeting adjourned at 1:45 p.m. 
 
 
 
 
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Peter Luckham, Chair 
 
CERTIFIED CORRECT: 
 
 
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Sarah Shugar, Recorder