Thetis Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, June 1, 2021

[0:00:01] Trustee Patrick: Thank you. If you're just joining us, just stand by. We'll start the meeting in just a moment.

[0:00:18] Voice 8: The system, how's

[0:00:20] Trustee Patrick: it looking there? Well, if you're talking to us, you're muted.

[0:00:38] Trustee Patrick: All right. Are we up and running? Yeah, we're good to go. Super.

[0:00:43] Trustee Patrick: Trustees, are you ready? Doug has disappeared off of my screen again.

[0:00:49] Voice 5: Are you

[0:00:49] Trustee Patrick: there? There you are. All right, then.

[0:00:53] Trustee Patrick: in. Jamie's asking, before we get started, trustees, would you like to have the agenda

[0:01:02] Trustee Patrick: up on the screen? Is that helpful, trustees? Would you like to have the agenda up on the screen?

[0:01:10] Trustee Luckham: I do not need the agenda on the screen. I have one before me, but whether or not you think that's

[0:01:15] Trustee Luckham: a benefit to members of the public.

[0:01:18] Trustee Patrick: Let's start this way. If we can see each other,

[0:01:21] Trustee Patrick: it always is easier, I guess, being big, and then we can decide if we want to have that up. Maybe

[0:01:26] Trustee Patrick: maybe when we have the report on the shorelines

[0:01:27] Trustee Patrick: might be useful.

[0:01:29] Trustee Patrick: Okay, well, with that,

[0:01:31] Trustee Patrick: I'm going to like to call this meeting to order.

[0:01:34] Trustee Patrick: And thank you all for joining us today.

[0:01:38] Trustee Patrick: This meeting is being live streamed and recorded.

[0:01:42] Trustee Patrick: This meeting is a meeting

[0:01:44] Trustee Patrick: of your Adidas Island Local Trust Committee.

[0:01:46] Trustee Patrick: I wanted to speak briefly about the horrendous findings

[0:01:49] Trustee Patrick: of the Kamloops Residential School.

[0:01:51] Trustee Patrick: This is a reminder of the ongoing and shameful legacy

[0:01:54] Trustee Patrick: legacy of colonization. We stand with the community residential school survivors and

[0:02:05] Trustee Patrick: their families. I also understand that this finding is causing a great deal of grief and

[0:02:11] Trustee Patrick: trauma for the Coast Salish people and the Penelakut Nation as well, whose traditional

[0:02:16] Trustee Patrick: lands we gather on today. I'm Laura Patrick. I'm elected on Salt Spring and chair of this

[0:02:22] Trustee Patrick: local trust committee. I'm joined by trustee Peter Leckham. Good morning, Peter. And trustee

[0:02:28] Trustee Patrick: Doug Fenton. Good morning, Doug. Together, we make up your Theta Asylum local trust committee.

[0:02:34] Trustee Patrick: I'm also joining us today as area director Lynn Smith of the Cowichan Valley Regional District,

[0:02:41] Trustee Patrick: Area G. Thank you for joining us today, Lynn. So this meeting is an official forum for your

[0:02:49] Trustee Patrick: local trust committee to make decisions about land use planning matters and discuss relevant

[0:02:52] Trustee Patrick: in business. I also want to add that this is a place of employment, despite the fact that many

[0:02:56] Trustee Patrick: of our staff may be coming from their own homes. They have a right to a safe and respectful

[0:03:01] Trustee Patrick: workplace. We're very grateful for the ability to have electronic meetings. Trustees, staff,

[0:03:06] Trustee Patrick: and the public have to travel, and we're honoring the provincial health codes and guidelines during

[0:03:10] Trustee Patrick: the pandemic. As this is an electronic meeting, we appreciate your understanding. If we have any

[0:03:16] Trustee Patrick: technical difficulties, we will work as quickly as we can to overcome them. We've muted everyone's

[0:03:21] Trustee Patrick: microphone so that there's no audio disruptions. And I'll go over in just a moment how the town

[0:03:25] Trustee Patrick: hall will work. We have several staff joining us today. So we have Will Cottingham, our office

[0:03:32] Trustee Patrick: administrative assistant, who's making this meeting run smoothly. Thank you very much, Will.

[0:03:36] Trustee Patrick: We have Sarah Sugar, our minute taker. Hello, Sarah. And we have Heather Cower, our regional

[0:03:42] Trustee Patrick: planning manager. Heather and Jamie Dibaya, who are our island planner. Hello, Jamie.

[0:03:48] Trustee Patrick: Okay. So we have before us an agenda. Trustees, are there any additions or changes to the agenda?

[0:03:58] Voice 8: None from here.

[0:04:00] Trustee Patrick: Okay. And we approve the agenda through general consent.

[0:04:02] Trustee Patrick: All right.

[0:04:03] Trustee Patrick: That's fantastic. So I apologize. I'm working from one computer, so I'm going to be kind of

[0:04:09] Trustee Patrick: bouncing around here and looking at the agenda and things. So I apologize for some awkward pauses,

[0:04:16] Trustee Patrick: but we'll begin the meeting with our trustee reports who would like to go first hey doug

[0:04:23] Trustee Patrick: all right go ahead oh trustee fenton you're on mute here

[0:04:31] Trustee Fenton: we go i can't see both right now so i'm

[0:04:34] Trustee Fenton: yeah and uh again i'm grateful to live and work in the unseated territory of the penelope and

[0:04:43] Trustee Fenton: and Laaxon peoples.

[0:04:45] Trustee Fenton: I am almost speechless and find it hard to find words

[0:04:52] Trustee Fenton: with respect to the discoveries in the Kamloops area.

[0:04:56] Trustee Fenton: And I stand with Penelakut as they work their way

[0:04:59] Trustee Fenton: through these very challenging times.

[0:05:03] Trustee Fenton: But I think this is only one bump on the road

[0:05:07] Trustee Fenton: and this is going to be a long journey of reconciliation.

[0:05:10] Trustee Fenton: that's truly had a, yeah, a serious start.

[0:05:16] Trustee Fenton: Now we're going to have to be paying attention

[0:05:18] Trustee Fenton: and do everything in my world

[0:05:22] Trustee Fenton: and influences to assist that process.

[0:05:26] Trustee Fenton: And as far as my work within the trust,

[0:05:32] Trustee Fenton: it is, we've had a number of meetings

[0:05:34] Trustee Fenton: that I've been attending.

[0:05:35] Trustee Fenton: I've been part of the Trust Council Programs Committee.

[0:05:41] Trustee Fenton: so we've had working committee as well as the actual

[0:05:44] Trustee Fenton: trust council meeting.

[0:05:46] Trustee Fenton: And we haven't really covered a lot of ground.

[0:05:51] Trustee Fenton: It's more of a represent,

[0:05:52] Trustee Fenton: oh, we've had the staff has come forward

[0:05:56] Trustee Fenton: with version one of the draft

[0:05:58] Trustee Fenton: of the revised potential revised bylaw and policy statement.

[0:06:05] Trustee Fenton: And there's a lot of ongoing debate still,

[0:06:09] Trustee Fenton: still, which is good because this is all part of that conversation,

[0:06:12] Trustee Fenton: that greater conversation.

[0:06:15] Trustee Fenton: I also attended a board meeting with the Islands Trust Conservancy.

[0:06:20] Trustee Fenton: I always find those enlightening.

[0:06:22] Trustee Fenton: There's a lot of very positive work being done.

[0:06:25] Trustee Fenton: It's nice to have the full complement of staff making for some very

[0:06:31] Trustee Fenton: productive times, very busy, but productive times.

[0:06:35] Trustee Fenton: and uh there's a couple of new opportunities conservancy wise that are coming up um that

[0:06:43] Trustee Fenton: by the summer should be a public um you know should be out to the public with respect to their

[0:06:49] Trustee Fenton: what they are and what they're going to offer but once again unique and very promising

[0:06:56] Trustee Fenton: opportunities for conservation within the trust area uh we had a continuing education program

[0:07:03] Trustee Fenton: that was on philanthropy and how the board and trustees

[0:07:09] Trustee Fenton: can, the role we play in regards

[0:07:11] Trustee Fenton: to the Islands Trust Conservancy

[0:07:15] Trustee Fenton: and that overall sort of conservation

[0:07:18] Trustee Fenton: through not just donation, but sort of planned giving.

[0:07:24] Trustee Fenton: So this was an interesting concept.

[0:07:27] Trustee Fenton: There is Carla Funk was the presenter on this

[0:07:32] Trustee Fenton: and is something that yeah this will be out well it's on the website now um but it's going to be

[0:07:40] Trustee Fenton: out to the public and to the trustees as a whole over um you know the next number of months so

[0:07:47] Trustee Fenton: there's a lot of sort of good work being done there and with that note um their new website

[0:07:54] Trustee Fenton: with respect to the heron uh the quarterly publishing by the islands trust conservancy

[0:07:59] Trustee Fenton: is there and is an excellent resource for people to look at it's got all of the current information

[0:08:06] Trustee Fenton: and i strongly encourage people to go and have a look and get up to date in the latest

[0:08:14] Trustee Fenton: things that are happening within the island stress conservancy itself

[0:08:17] Trustee Fenton: and i'll leave it there thank you very much chair patrick thank

[0:08:23] Trustee Patrick: you trustee

[0:08:24] Trustee Luckham: fenton trustee luckham

[0:08:25] Trustee Luckham: Well, good morning, everyone. Thank you for being here today. Indeed, it's an honor

[0:08:32] Trustee Luckham: to be able to live, work, and play in this

[0:08:37] Trustee Luckham: Penelakut and Lacson territory in the lands of the Coast Salish people.

[0:08:46] Trustee Luckham: I can't say any more, and whatever words I might have

[0:08:53] Trustee Luckham: don't seem strong enough for the events that have unfolded last week and I can't imagine the grief

[0:09:02] Trustee Luckham: and the sorrow and the horror of the memories by so many and so certainly I share as much as

[0:09:12] Trustee Luckham: I can or as little as I can the grief and sorrow that is felt throughout British Columbia Canada

[0:09:18] Trustee Luckham: Canada, and the communities. I would note, just a personal note, I have people that I

[0:09:27] Trustee Luckham: know all over the world, and I've actually had conversations with them in this last week.

[0:09:31] Trustee Luckham: And the world is grieving with the First Nations in British Columbia, Canada, on this. Word

[0:09:38] Trustee Luckham: of this has spread rapidly around the globe. Yeah. Anyway, six weeks have gone by since

[0:09:51] Trustee Luckham: since our last meeting, actually seems like an eternity

[0:09:54] Trustee Luckham: given the number of things that happened.

[0:09:57] Trustee Luckham: My scope of work for the Islanders Trust

[0:10:00] Trustee Luckham: certainly expands beyond the Theta Sound Trust area.

[0:10:05] Trustee Luckham: So I won't belabor too much of that,

[0:10:09] Trustee Luckham: but just briefly note some of the things

[0:10:12] Trustee Luckham: that will be of interest to locals

[0:10:13] Trustee Luckham: and certainly happy to have any conversations

[0:10:16] Trustee Luckham: with anybody about any of these matters,

[0:10:20] Trustee Luckham: including, of course, our First Nations reconciliation work.

[0:10:26] Trustee Luckham: I attended the Howe Sound Forum, which is a forum engaging protection and management of the Howe Sound area,

[0:10:36] Trustee Luckham: which includes Bowen, Gambier, Keats Islands, Anvil Island, parts of the Sunshine Coast,

[0:10:41] Trustee Luckham: as well as the shorelines in the Lower Mainland there.

[0:10:46] Trustee Luckham: there. They are seeking a biosphere recognition through the United Nations, and that is in

[0:10:54] Trustee Luckham: Paris at this time and will be decided in the near future. It's a very long journey

[0:10:59] Trustee Luckham: to undertake these things. It's probably been four or five years since they started. Some

[0:11:04] Trustee Luckham: of these take as many as 15 years, and so when you think about a four-year term versus

[0:11:09] Trustee Luckham: is a three-year term, it seems like there's not enough time. I am the chair of the Leskeetee and

[0:11:17] Trustee Luckham: Salt Spring Island, and certainly there's lots of activities going on there, major OCP

[0:11:22] Trustee Luckham: development work on Leskeetee Island, and Thetis Islanders will remember when we did our last big

[0:11:27] Trustee Luckham: review, and it is a significant opportunity to engage with the community and find out what the

[0:11:34] Trustee Luckham: values and visions of the community. So that's ongoing there. Salt Spring Island, certainly the

[0:11:40] Trustee Luckham: largest trust area in the Islands Trust, with often what seems like the biggest and most

[0:11:46] Trustee Luckham: significant issues, and certainly all of the small issues that we have on

[0:11:50] Trustee Luckham: smaller islands are magnified in that population. Major initiative on coastal Douglas fir,

[0:11:58] Trustee Luckham: watershed protection, a lot of interest and support surrounding affordable housing, supportive

[0:12:06] Trustee Luckham: housing situations, and everything from sawmills to, who knows, there's so many issues with

[0:12:20] Trustee Luckham: development there and the Islands Trust is often misunderstood in its need and necessity and

[0:12:29] Trustee Luckham: especially with climate change and ever increasing lost species throughout the Islands Trust area

[0:12:38] Trustee Luckham: the preserve and protect work and so we do the best we can we've and I'm proud to work with

[0:12:45] Trustee Luckham: both Laura Patrick and Peter Grove and the team there as well as I am with the

[0:12:50] Trustee Luckham: team here that helped us on Peter's Island. Lots of work on committees, Trust

[0:12:57] Trustee Luckham: Programs Committee undertaking the policy statement, local planning

[0:13:00] Trustee Luckham: committee or regional planning committee we call it now that's been grappling

[0:13:04] Trustee Luckham: with application fees and other activities there. Certainly the policy

[0:13:12] Trustee Luckham: statement work as I'm taking a lot of attention from all the committees at the

[0:13:16] Trustee Luckham: moment. I participated in well I've had one ministers meeting which come up from

[0:13:26] Trustee Luckham: time to time this one was with regards to Hornby Island and the Comox nation

[0:13:30] Trustee Luckham: and what some of you may have heard of unfortunately and tragically unearthing

[0:13:37] Trustee Luckham: of a child on an archaeological site on Salt Spring or on Hornby Island, and indeed another

[0:13:46] Trustee Luckham: reflection on a very serious situation. There was an oil spill exercise. I let some folks know,

[0:13:56] Trustee Luckham: let everybody on Thetis know about that. That was a two-day exercise convened by Transport Canada,

[0:14:02] Trustee Luckham: Canada, Ministry of Environment probably, to essentially test West Coast Marine Response

[0:14:10] Trustee Luckham: Corporation to determine and certify them that they have the ability and capability

[0:14:15] Trustee Luckham: to do oil spill, conduct an oil spill response if it's necessary.

[0:14:21] Trustee Luckham: So there was a significant number of vessels out there pretending that there was an oil

[0:14:27] Trustee Luckham: spill at Canoe Islet.

[0:14:28] Trustee Luckham: Many of you will know that, Coalier Pass.

[0:14:30] Trustee Luckham: and um i was actually re you know in the worst case scenario if this happens those guys are

[0:14:37] Trustee Luckham: going to do as best a job as they can um they've got the equipment they've got the skills they've

[0:14:42] Trustee Luckham: got the technology i was very impressed with the oil spill mapping real-time oil spill mapping

[0:14:47] Trustee Luckham: showing where on every tidal cycle the oil is going from the initial spill that's critical

[0:14:54] Trustee Luckham: in protecting some of the shoreline habitats that are important to all of us so that was um

[0:15:01] Trustee Luckham: very good glad to see it happening um honestly god forbid that um it ever happens because it

[0:15:08] Trustee Luckham: will not be enough that's the truth of it um i did also uh have a uh engaged with um rmp um

[0:15:17] Trustee Luckham: alistair mcgregor i reached out to him on the anchorages file to get an update um uh taking

[0:15:23] Trustee Luckham: to him some suggestions about a roundtable with MPs and MLAs to bring more awareness amongst the

[0:15:30] Trustee Luckham: federal and provincial elected representatives about why this is an important issue to us

[0:15:35] Trustee Luckham: and should be to all Canadians. This very special place on the coast and that was very productive,

[0:15:42] Trustee Luckham: very supportive. Certainly he is very supportive of this issue having a private members bill

[0:15:47] Trustee Luckham: in Ottawa and certainly that the party is interested in supporting that.

[0:15:54] Trustee Luckham: ABICC was a few days ago, the Association of Vancouver Island Coastal Communities, there was a real, it was a first, was it the first? Maybe not.

[0:16:04] Trustee Luckham: Anyway, it was a completely virtual session, a day and a half, with an evening session the night before, was conducted very well.

[0:16:14] Trustee Luckham: One motion from the Islands Trust respecting changing to public notices in newspapers was endorsed by them and that will now move on to UBCM for consideration by the province and it's hopeful that we can get some changes there because, as many of you know,

[0:16:32] Trustee Luckham: know, the aquaculture actually lease that we had here a year ago that was published

[0:16:39] Trustee Luckham: in the Ladysmith paper. Nobody on Thetis reads the Ladysmith newspaper. Ladysmith newspaper

[0:16:44] Trustee Luckham: may be disappointed by that, but there are better places for those public notifications

[0:16:49] Trustee Luckham: to go. And so that will help us. It'd be nice if they could come, just show up in the e-spokes

[0:16:55] Trustee Luckham: for instance. But obviously there's other mediums that are necessary. So that's ongoing.

[0:16:59] Trustee Luckham: going. All but two motions were carried at ADICC. The two that were not carried was to turn back

[0:17:09] Trustee Luckham: the election cycle to three years from four. That was defeated. So I guess everybody's happy with

[0:17:16] Trustee Luckham: four years. I actually think it's a good thing. More time to do more important work. There's never

[0:17:22] Trustee Luckham: enough time. And then the other one was there was a request to turn back the decision by the

[0:17:26] Trustee Luckham: the provincial government with respect to fish farms and the Discovery Islands, that also failed.

[0:17:32] Trustee Luckham: And so that's, I think, important that we stick to this path and not succumb to pressures of

[0:17:40] Trustee Luckham: industry with respect to the impacts that fish farming has on the coast. And hopefully they

[0:17:47] Trustee Luckham: will follow the alternatives that are available to them to do fish farming. But certainly the

[0:17:53] Trustee Luckham: the provision of fish and employment

[0:17:55] Trustee Luckham: is important to everybody on the coast.

[0:17:58] Trustee Luckham: Finally, two remaining items, the select committee met,

[0:18:01] Trustee Luckham: which is doing the governance management review.

[0:18:03] Trustee Luckham: Yesterday, we've engaged a consultant that work is going on.

[0:18:09] Trustee Luckham: I am impressed with the experience and skillset

[0:18:15] Trustee Luckham: that the team is bringing to the table.

[0:18:18] Trustee Luckham: And so far, the engagement with them

[0:18:20] Trustee Luckham: has created possibilities of some hopeful suggestions or recommendations

[0:18:28] Trustee Luckham: about how we might improve our governance. So that will continue to

[0:18:32] Trustee Luckham: advance and I'm happy to be involved in that committee to represent Islands Trust

[0:18:39] Trustee Luckham: Council. A more sobering note and the final note is in one of my other roles

[0:18:48] Trustee Luckham: as Deputy Chief on the Theta Sound Fire Department, we had a bushfire of significance that

[0:18:57] Trustee Luckham: the very good fortune and the weather allowed the Theta Sound volunteers to put the fire out.

[0:19:06] Trustee Luckham: If the conditions had been different, like today or tomorrow, for instance, when it's much warmer

[0:19:12] Trustee Luckham: than it was a week, 10 days ago, the outcome may have been very different. And rather than

[0:19:18] Trustee Luckham: snuffing a fire out on a single location, we may have been making decisions about what part of the

[0:19:23] Trustee Luckham: island we were going to try and save or sacrifice in order to benefit the greater good. Apparently,

[0:19:33] Trustee Luckham: this fire was noted by many long before the fire department was called. The property owner wasn't

[0:19:40] Trustee Luckham: aware of it. It was noted from the ferry, even smoke plume coming up from the island. Nobody

[0:19:47] Trustee Luckham: reported it. I can't say stronger or louder any smoke or fire reported. Inquire if it looks like

[0:19:57] Trustee Luckham: there's a fire there make sure somebody's there tending it at a minimum but report it. We are

[0:20:05] Trustee Luckham: going into wildfire season fire permits are being held back only campfires now early morning shift

[0:20:11] Trustee Luckham: for tools and equipment and saws and machinery which means no fires after one o'clock or no

[0:20:17] Trustee Luckham: equipment no gas powered equipment after one o'clock and a two-hour fire watch at one o'clock

[0:20:22] Trustee Luckham: if you have been conducting those kinds of activities so uh everybody uh the really good

[0:20:29] Trustee Luckham: news was and i'm going to preempt the e-spokes message or maybe it came out this morning we're

[0:20:34] Trustee Luckham: getting our second shot clinic uh june 16th and 17th and that's really exciting um i want to thank

[0:20:43] Trustee Luckham: and everybody for getting that to us.

[0:20:47] Trustee Luckham: So looking forward to that.

[0:20:48] Trustee Luckham: So be safe, be kind, all those wonderful things

[0:20:53] Trustee Luckham: that other people have coined, not me.

[0:20:55] Trustee Luckham: Thank you.

[0:20:56] Trustee Patrick: Thank you, Trustee Gluckom.

[0:20:58] Trustee Patrick: I just wanted to report that the trust council

[0:21:01] Trustee Patrick: is meeting next week, June 9th to the 11th.

[0:21:03] Trustee Patrick: The delegation and town hall will be on the evening

[0:21:06] Trustee Patrick: of June 9th at 7pm.

[0:21:08] Trustee Patrick: Please go to our website for the information

[0:21:10] Trustee Patrick: to see the agenda package,

[0:21:12] Trustee Patrick: as well as how you can view the meeting.

[0:21:14] Trustee Patrick: You may have seen some of the letters

[0:21:16] Trustee Patrick: or the social media posts that are around

[0:21:19] Trustee Patrick: regarding trust policy state update.

[0:21:22] Trustee Patrick: And I want to assure everyone that what we're moving toward

[0:21:25] Trustee Patrick: is first reading.

[0:21:26] Trustee Patrick: First reading is just that,

[0:21:28] Trustee Patrick: it's about getting a breath out to the public

[0:21:31] Trustee Patrick: so that we can go get the feedback and your engagement.

[0:21:36] Trustee Patrick: So the public engagement is expected to happen in September.

[0:21:42] Trustee Patrick: so um look forward to your involvement in that uh there's also just lots of information swirling

[0:21:50] Trustee Patrick: around i think people have referred to it but i think it's really important to understand that

[0:21:53] Trustee Patrick: the island's rest has not shifted any priorities uh they've really only affirmed that modern

[0:21:59] Trustee Patrick: environmental values um are simply integrated with human issues of justice race and class and

[0:22:07] Trustee Patrick: And that's, you know, to reiterate, people in nature, they just are deeply intertwined and

[0:22:13] Trustee Patrick: integrated. So with that, I see that Director Smith, I believe you did not have a report today,

[0:22:23] Trustee Patrick: unless you thought of anything you wish to add to give you an opportunity.

[0:22:29] Voice 1: Thank you very much. I appreciate the invitation to attend. This is an opportunity for me to also

[0:22:36] Voice 1: hear more about Islands Trust and the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee. I also wish to

[0:22:47] Voice 1: acknowledge both the comments by Trustee Luckman and Trustee Fenton regarding the sad situation

[0:22:56] Voice 1: that we have heard this week.

[0:23:00] Voice 1: I do find myself emotionally disturbed by this.

[0:23:06] Voice 1: And I think that our T-shirts, Trustee Leckham's and mine,

[0:23:15] Voice 1: that say every child matters is so important.

[0:23:24] Voice 1: On a different note, the CVRD, where there was a flood in the building on the 28th of March, is slowly making progress to move back into the building, and different areas are slowly being redone.

[0:23:47] Voice 1: A lot of technology is required to get everyone back up and running.

[0:23:53] Voice 1: So it's a bit of a slow process.

[0:23:55] Voice 1: I also would do an update on the connectivity grant.

[0:24:01] Voice 1: And there is no update at this time.

[0:24:03] Voice 1: It's at the federal level.

[0:24:05] Voice 1: And also the Thetis Island Wharf grant application is also at the federal level.

[0:24:12] Voice 1: and we're waiting for both those grants uh announcements and grants always seem to take

[0:24:19] Voice 1: way longer than we actually would like them to so that is my report today and i thank you for your

[0:24:27] Voice 1: time thank

[0:24:28] Trustee Patrick: you very much uh director smith uh okay so moving on um we have our minutes from

[0:24:36] Trustee Patrick: our april 13th meeting here for uh adoption are there any changes or corrections that need to be

[0:24:43] Trustee Patrick: made to those minutes?

[0:24:46] Trustee Luckham: I don't have any. I didn't see any, no.

[0:24:49] Trustee Patrick: Okay, can we approve those minutes

[0:24:51] Trustee Patrick: to your general consent? Aye. Excellent, thank you.

[0:24:56] Trustee Patrick: So the next thing we really have here is the

[0:24:59] Trustee Patrick: follow-up action list. It's on page 10 of the agenda package. Are there any questions for staff

[0:25:05] Trustee Patrick: or are there any items that staff wish to bring to our attention? I'm not seeing Peter. Do you

[0:25:15] Trustee Patrick: have any questions? I've got a nod from Doug

[0:25:20] Trustee Luckham: but no. I don't have any questions. I feel obligated

[0:25:26] Trustee Luckham: to make an update to the local trust committee on a couple items with my name on them follow-up

[0:25:32] Trustee Luckham: action list. One being the letter to the minister regarding the property on Valdez. I actually have

[0:25:39] Trustee Luckham: have that letter written, I stalled on it because in doing my research for writing the letter,

[0:25:48] Trustee Luckham: I discovered that the ministry had actually made a commitment to take action by, I forget the date,

[0:25:54] Trustee Luckham: but perhaps it was the 19th of May, and that they were expecting that work to begin. So rather than

[0:26:02] Trustee Luckham: harassed them when there was a plan in place I thought I would give them the time to act or not

[0:26:12] Trustee Luckham: and I haven't had a chance to follow up on that yet but will do and like I said I have the bulk

[0:26:20] Trustee Luckham: of the letter drafted and I think what I will say is if nothing has happened then I will call them

[0:26:27] Trustee Luckham: on the point that they had made a commitment to begin that work and it is apparent that it has

[0:26:32] Trustee Luckham: not and you know along the same tone of that when can we anticipate that issue

[0:26:40] Trustee Luckham: being resolved. There's another item on there which I'm going to apologize I

[0:26:46] Trustee Luckham: have to find it here which I have not done and have lots of excuses but I'll

[0:26:57] Trustee Luckham: be turning my attention to that. I can't find that now. So I apologize for that. It seems

[0:27:13] Trustee Luckham: maybe it was a different report. Number five. Oh, thank you very much.

[0:27:18] Voice 8: Yeah. And

[0:27:19] Trustee Luckham: at the bottom.

[0:27:25] Trustee Luckham: Oh, I see. It's given my name is not on the list. That's why it's actually Will Cottingham.

[0:27:29] Trustee Luckham: um so yeah so this was uh with respect to the um closure of the dock and actually at this point

[0:27:39] Trustee Luckham: i think that that is uh moot because the issue is being addressed and um and certainly we have

[0:27:49] Trustee Luckham: some concerns about how the construction is going to be undertaken and staging of materials given

[0:27:54] Trustee Luckham: that it's the only parking area for the ferry access but I would like to suggest that that

[0:28:01] Trustee Luckham: item be struck from the list a follow-up action list is no longer necessary unless there's a

[0:28:08] Trustee Luckham: feeling that it needs to be still written but I think that the message has been received and

[0:28:16] Trustee Luckham: the work is planned to be undertaken shortly and so I'd be happy to make a motion if that was

[0:28:24] Trustee Luckham: I look to staff, do

[0:28:26] Trustee Patrick: we need a motion to remove that from the fellow faction list?

[0:28:31] Voice 5: For the chair, thank you. I believe it needs to be retracted or rescinded.

[0:28:40] Voice 5: Rescinded, yeah, thanks.

[0:28:42] Trustee Luckham: Okay, so bear with me a second here then. I don't have a motion

[0:28:47] Trustee Luckham: motion listed there. But I'm going to just say then that I moved that the Thetis Island Local

[0:28:53] Trustee Luckham: Trust Committee rescind the motion associated with the November 24th, 2020 resolution to draft

[0:29:04] Trustee Luckham: a letter to the CBRD regarding the community doc and emergency services.

[0:29:14] Trustee Patrick: Before I have a second,

[0:29:16] Trustee Patrick: and I'm going to give Sarah a moment and let her read that back.

[0:29:20] Trustee Luckham: Thank you.

[0:29:27] Voice 4: Thank you, Chair Patrick.

[0:29:28] Voice 4: I could read that back now.

[0:29:29] Voice 4: Yes, please.

[0:29:32] Voice 4: That the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee rescind the motion

[0:29:36] Voice 4: associated with the November 24th, 2020 resolution

[0:29:41] Voice 4: to draft a letter to the CVRD regarding the community doc

[0:29:45] Voice 4: and emergency services.

[0:29:48] Voice 4: Does that sound what you wanted, Peter?

[0:29:50] Trustee Patrick: All right.

[0:29:51] Trustee Patrick: And does that work for staff?

[0:29:52] Trustee Patrick: Just make sure that that's sufficient detail.

[0:30:00] Trustee Patrick: So is there a second to that motion?

[0:30:03] Trustee Patrick: Seconded by Trustee Fenton.

[0:30:04] Trustee Patrick: Is there any discussion?

[0:30:06] Trustee Patrick: I'll call the vote.

[0:30:07] Trustee Patrick: All those in favor?

[0:30:09] Trustee Patrick: And that's carried.

[0:30:12] Trustee Luckham: Now chair, might I add another remark?

[0:30:15] Trustee Luckham: It's not on the follow-up action list,

[0:30:17] Trustee Luckham: but because we were talking about Valdez Island,

[0:30:21] Trustee Luckham: some of our community members and certainly myself,

[0:30:24] Trustee Luckham: well, a number of our community members actually

[0:30:26] Trustee Luckham: on the associated islands have brought to our attention

[0:30:30] Trustee Luckham: that the mining had started again on Valdez Island,

[0:30:34] Trustee Luckham: which is on the Laaxan reserve lands

[0:30:38] Trustee Luckham: or lands that they have access to.

[0:30:41] Trustee Luckham: And certainly that's something that they can do

[0:30:45] Trustee Luckham: and they have a permit and all of this good stuff.

[0:30:48] Trustee Luckham: And in fact, the Theta Sound LTC provided a permit

[0:30:52] Trustee Luckham: or rezoning change to allow them a boat barge access

[0:30:58] Trustee Luckham: access to the shoreline in order to facilitate the extraction of the material.

[0:31:02] Trustee Luckham: But anyway, the mining had started up again and there was

[0:31:06] Trustee Luckham: unfortunately involves a lot of blasting and which, you know, across the Gulf

[0:31:11] Trustee Luckham: Islands, it just echoes for miles and miles.

[0:31:16] Trustee Luckham: And so people wonder what's going on.

[0:31:18] Trustee Luckham: Anyway, nonetheless, there was a sort of a

[0:31:22] Trustee Luckham: I think probably more an informal agreement.

[0:31:25] Trustee Luckham: There may be some Ministry of Environment requirements around it.

[0:31:29] Trustee Luckham: I actually did investigate, I think I sent a message to Heather and to David Marler for

[0:31:36] Trustee Luckham: some suggestions on the requirements of the permit because I couldn't find it on the new

[0:31:41] Trustee Luckham: website around raptor nesting season.

[0:31:47] Trustee Luckham: And there was at least at a minimum an agreement that blasting would not happen during nesting

[0:31:54] Trustee Luckham: season.

[0:31:54] Trustee Luckham: well the blasting was happening during nesting season. I don't know and in fact one individual

[0:32:02] Trustee Luckham: on Ruxton Island that is right across from where it's happening had made a commitment to keep me

[0:32:07] Trustee Luckham: updated with the frequency of the blasting and those sorts of things. He certainly gave me one

[0:32:14] Trustee Luckham: report on blasting and then there was something that happened on the island that I don't have any

[0:32:21] Trustee Luckham: idea what it was but something that involved the emergency services helicopter that appeared to

[0:32:27] Trustee Luckham: have attended the site after there had been a blasting incident and there has been no activity

[0:32:35] Trustee Luckham: since that has been reported to me and Doug actually lives within earshot of that and I'm

[0:32:41] Trustee Luckham: presuming you haven't heard anything either recently so just wanted to make sure the public

[0:32:46] Trustee Luckham: and the LTC is aware.

[0:32:47] Trustee Luckham: And I think we do need to maybe understand

[0:32:53] Trustee Luckham: what the permitting entails,

[0:32:58] Trustee Luckham: what restrictions there may be associated with that.

[0:33:02] Trustee Luckham: And to that end, Chair,

[0:33:04] Trustee Luckham: I apologize for being so long-winded.

[0:33:06] Trustee Luckham: I would like to make a motion to ask staff

[0:33:10] Trustee Luckham: to assist us in providing the supporting documentation

[0:33:15] Trustee Luckham: documentation regarding the mining operation on Valdez Island. If that's all right, I would make

[0:33:21] Trustee Luckham: that motion.

[0:33:24] Trustee Patrick: I'll get to staff if that's something that they would appreciate a resolution for.

[0:33:31] Trustee Patrick: I see that yes. So give Sarah a moment if you caught that or need to ask for more information

[0:33:38] Trustee Patrick: on that motion.

[0:33:43] Voice 4: Thank you. I can read that back. Thank you. That the Thetis Island Local Trust

[0:33:48] Voice 4: committee request staff to provide supporting documentation regarding the mining operation

[0:33:53] Voice 4: on valdez island that sound good peter yeah

[0:33:58] Trustee Luckham: that's i think it gets the intent all right

[0:34:00] Trustee Luckham: and i apologize chair for not putting it asking for that as a new business item there we go all

[0:34:05] Trustee Patrick: right is there a second yeah

[0:34:07] Trustee Luckham: um

[0:34:09] Trustee Patrick: any discussion i'll call the vote all those in favor and that's

[0:34:16] Trustee Patrick: carried any other questions on the um follow-up action list i do want to mention i did jump over

[0:34:23] Trustee Patrick: the town hall that wasn't a by a mistake there are no attendees uh today um but if people are

[0:34:32] Trustee Patrick: live streaming um we always want to hear from you so please email your trustees or i always forget

[0:34:39] Trustee Patrick: the nor is it north info or northern what's the email address for the north it's north info at

[0:34:48] Trustee Patrick: at islandstrust.bc.ca.

[0:34:50] Trustee Patrick: Thank you so much, Will.

[0:34:51] Trustee Patrick: I know I always forget that one, but thank you.

[0:34:54] Trustee Patrick: So please, we always do want to hear from you.

[0:34:57] Trustee Patrick: Okay, moving on.

[0:34:59] Trustee Patrick: We have a couple of referrals here.

[0:35:02] Trustee Patrick: We have Galliano Island Trust Committee Bylaw

[0:35:05] Trustee Patrick: number 256 and 257 on page 16 of the agenda package.

[0:35:12] Trustee Patrick: Who's going to give us this report?

[0:35:18] Trustee Patrick: Is there any staff that want to talk about this one?

[0:35:26] Voice 5: planner dubai up um yeah through the chair sorry i apologize i had the same bylaws referred for

[0:35:35] Voice 5: gambier but uh trustee rogers is a chair so he spoke to these so um i'm just looking at the

[0:35:43] Voice 5: agenda to see if i can give a summary so there's there's two there's two bylaws there's an ocp

[0:35:52] Voice 5: 256 and then 257 and galliano um i've lost my page what

[0:36:03] Trustee Luckham: page are we on here 16 and 18 16 to 18

[0:36:07] Voice 5: 18 okay thank

[0:36:09] Voice 8: you it makes it easier

[0:36:10] Trustee Luckham: for the planner um i actually uh consider that the

[0:36:14] Trustee Luckham: development does not impact the okay same

[0:36:19] Trustee Fenton: we'll

[0:36:22] Trustee Luckham: need a motion to um so i'll move the galliano

[0:36:26] Trustee Luckham: or island local trust committee bylaws numbers 256 and 257 um all right do not impact the concerns of

[0:36:36] Trustee Luckham: interests uh

[0:36:37] Trustee Luckham: thank you yeah

[0:36:40] Trustee Patrick: is there a second yes um i know that uh sarah can catch that's

[0:36:46] Trustee Patrick: a standard motion so um is there any discussion i'll call the vote all those in favor and that's

[0:36:55] Trustee Patrick: We have a second Galeano referral as well on bylaw number 278 on page 19 of the agenda package.

[0:37:08] Trustee Patrick: Are there any additional information on this one?

[0:37:13] Voice 5: For the chair, this one is a technical review.

[0:37:16] Voice 5: So I have this one in front of me.

[0:37:21] Voice 5: So they're just updating, I believe, their land use bylaw.

[0:37:26] Voice 5: yeah

[0:37:27] Trustee Patrick: thank you very much trustees do you again want to do a motion of interest unaffected

[0:37:35] Trustee Fenton: yeah that would be fine uh who'd

[0:37:41] Trustee Patrick: like to make that motion i'll

[0:37:43] Trustee Fenton: make uh yeah i'll make the motion that

[0:37:44] Trustee Fenton: uh the interests are unaffected by this file is

[0:37:51] Trustee Patrick: there a second second second advice you like them

[0:37:55] Trustee Patrick: any discussion all the vote all those in favor all right and

[0:38:00] Trustee Patrick: that's carried okay sorry i have

[0:38:04] Trustee Patrick: uh like i said multiple everything all on one screen today so i keep bouncing back and forth

[0:38:09] Trustee Patrick: myself so now we have um uh item 8.1 on the agenda on page 32 is our coastal shoreline protection

[0:38:15] Trustee Patrick: section project staff report and that's going to be to planner

[0:38:20] Trustee Patrick: Dubai. So over to you. You're muted.

[0:38:35] Voice 5: Thanks, I'll try that again through the chair. So I just

[0:38:38] Voice 5: want to make sure that you can see the staff report there.

[0:38:41] Voice 5: Okay, great. Thank you. So this is a draft. This staff report

[0:38:44] Voice 5: just presents a draft project charter with respect to the

[0:38:48] Voice 5: local trust committee's top priority project shoreline and

[0:38:51] Voice 5: coastal protection strategy which is also referred to as the coastal shoreline protection so there

[0:38:56] Voice 5: might be some clarification on the title so this is presented for the LTC's consideration

[0:39:02] Voice 5: the purpose of the first phase of this project is to identify the direction and scope

[0:39:08] Voice 5: of the project through an information gathering phase the draft project charter provides two in

[0:39:14] Voice 5: scope options to proceed, which include the development of a discussion paper that will

[0:39:22] Voice 5: provide review of existing Thetis policies and regulations, collecting existing data on

[0:39:28] Voice 5: shorelines specifically around Thetis and an overview of a potential regulatory and or

[0:39:37] Voice 5: educational options for the project. The second in scope option is First Nations engagement,

[0:39:44] Voice 5: beginning with Penelakut Tribe and LIACs and First Nation

[0:39:46] Voice 5: to identify areas of significance or concern.

[0:39:51] Voice 5: And this may include cultural sites

[0:39:53] Voice 5: and culturally important species.

[0:39:55] Voice 5: The timeline presented in the draft project charter

[0:39:59] Voice 5: will begin with staff preparing the discussion paper

[0:40:03] Voice 5: and commencing First Nations engagement over the summer

[0:40:08] Voice 5: with staff presenting the discussion paper

[0:40:10] Voice 5: and reporting back additional results of from the engagement with Penelaket and Lyakson to the LTC

[0:40:17] Voice 5: at the September 28th LTC meeting and then from that point the LTC may provide direction for a

[0:40:24] Voice 5: next phase so I'll just leave it at that and I'll just pull up the project charter so we can

[0:40:32] Voice 5: take a look at it and that's it for me if you have any questions

[0:40:55] Voice 8: yeah

[0:40:56] Trustee Fenton: okay thank you i um yeah just thinking that through so i think the i think now i have

[0:41:01] Trustee Fenton: no problem with the the charter i think it uh works and addresses what uh we need to get you

[0:41:09] Trustee Fenton: know kick this off um the only just insight would be around penalicates and line actions

[0:41:16] Trustee Fenton: um what engagement uh does and i'm assuming but i once again just so there are no assumptions

[0:41:24] Trustee Fenton: um the aquaculture sort of commercial side not just commercial not just their cultural

[0:41:32] Trustee Fenton: and other important pieces but the fact that they actually have a or an elk it has a you know

[0:41:38] Trustee Fenton: clam and moisture and other sort of adventures happening in and around the state of sea um and

[0:41:47] Trustee Fenton: And if that is part of your engagement process or, you know,

[0:41:50] Trustee Fenton: is that obviously part of, or is that in addition to.

[0:41:58] Voice 5: Great. So yeah,

[0:41:59] Voice 5: the purpose of the engagement would be to identify any areas of interest,

[0:42:04] Voice 5: which may include aquaculture as well as, you know,

[0:42:09] Voice 5: so economic as well as cultural aspects, environmental.

[0:42:13] Voice 5: So hopefully that would capture that would be captured within the

[0:42:17] Voice 5: engagement. Yeah.

[0:42:18] Voice 5: Thank you.

[0:42:23] Trustee Patrick: Trustee Luck, any questions?

[0:42:26] Trustee Luckham: Yeah, not so much.

[0:42:28] Trustee Luckham: Well, maybe there are some questions hidden away in this.

[0:42:31] Trustee Luckham: this. I appreciate, actually, the presentation, the report, in not drawing any conclusions or

[0:42:50] Trustee Luckham: providing any specific direction. And indeed, you have acknowledged that the LTC needs to have more

[0:42:59] Trustee Luckham: conversations about its intentions here which is great because for obvious reasons people are

[0:43:09] Trustee Luckham: concerned about more regulation there has been some concerns expressed about development permit

[0:43:15] Trustee Luckham: areas as a result of the prairie and area regulations that we've that are now before

[0:43:21] Trustee Luckham: the minister for approval and certainly more regulation and development permit areas is a

[0:43:28] Trustee Luckham: tool available to us but may is not the only thing that we may desire doing we may want to simply

[0:43:37] Trustee Luckham: change some of the language in some of our documents and through education and um and um

[0:43:45] Trustee Luckham: information um create an environment where the issues and i don't want to get too far ahead of

[0:43:53] Trustee Luckham: myself, but I'll just say issues that are making us think about the necessity for undertaking this

[0:44:00] Trustee Luckham: work can be addressed in an effective way into the future. I have one comment about the

[0:44:14] Trustee Luckham: charter, but I'll just pass on that for a moment, because I keep looking at the background and

[0:44:22] Trustee Luckham: and thinking that,

[0:44:24] Trustee Luckham: and this is actually taking a lead from Trustee Patrick

[0:44:26] Trustee Luckham: and some of the work that she's brought

[0:44:28] Trustee Luckham: to the Salt Spring Island Vice Chair Patrick, actually,

[0:44:32] Trustee Luckham: sorry, some of the work she's brought

[0:44:34] Trustee Luckham: to Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee

[0:44:37] Trustee Luckham: is to provide a little bit more in that background

[0:44:41] Trustee Luckham: that sort of embraces the vision or the ideas surrounding

[0:44:46] Trustee Luckham: why it is that we're undertaking this work

[0:44:49] Trustee Luckham: and indeed what the intents are.

[0:44:52] Trustee Luckham: But that said, at this stage, or this first phase of the project, the language actually

[0:45:03] Trustee Luckham: does grasp what it is that I'm interested in.

[0:45:11] Trustee Luckham: I think, so let me just say here.

[0:45:15] Trustee Luckham: here. So I think that I think about the phrasing that comes to this, for me is the SWOT sort of a

[0:45:25] Trustee Luckham: tactic, which is identifying the issues, identifying the challenges and identifying the opportunities.

[0:45:30] Trustee Luckham: And so I think that fundamentally, underneath all of this, is maybe the necessity to,

[0:45:38] Trustee Luckham: to, and I apologize, I don't have any language specific to it, but to add that sort of a

[0:45:47] Trustee Luckham: framework to say that this is why we're doing this. One of the things that I, so with respect

[0:45:54] Trustee Luckham: to the charter itself, in scope and out of scope, ostensibly, in fact, maybe under objectives,

[0:46:02] Trustee Luckham: actually, that needs to be identified as identifying issues, challenges, and opportunities.

[0:46:09] Trustee Luckham: and then the in scope seems fine. However, I bristled a little bit at the out of scope,

[0:46:16] Trustee Luckham: which has extensive community engagement. I think that's a given. However,

[0:46:23] Trustee Luckham: we don't necessarily step out and say that what's in scope is community engagement

[0:46:31] Trustee Luckham: of an investigative nature, because although we do say that in the report that there may be

[0:46:45] Trustee Luckham: community engagement, I think that there has to be community engagement, because I think we need

[0:46:52] Trustee Luckham: to develop an understanding about why it is that we're doing this, so that we can come into this

[0:46:57] Trustee Luckham: with an open mind to understand, you know, why we might want to do this. And the thing that

[0:47:04] Trustee Luckham: immediately comes to my mind on this topic is, well, the one thing that immediately comes to

[0:47:12] Trustee Luckham: mind, there's several others as well, but the one thing that immediately comes to mind is the

[0:47:17] Trustee Luckham: aquaculture lease that came up off of the west side of Thetis last year which was hotly

[0:47:27] Trustee Luckham: disputed as necessary or desirable and indeed we did turn the application down and indeed

[0:47:35] Trustee Luckham: significantly the province backed not issuing the license to the applicant

[0:47:41] Trustee Luckham: applicant because it didn't meet the zoning. And so there is a very much an issue and a challenge

[0:47:48] Trustee Luckham: that we need to consider what the language and the tools that are available to us, that if that

[0:47:59] Trustee Luckham: qualifies under coastal protection, that would be included. And then that leads me to my

[0:48:07] Trustee Luckham: My final point is that I think we need to actually create some definitions around what

[0:48:20] Trustee Luckham: it actually, what coastal protection is and indeed whether offshore aquaculture is included

[0:48:28] Trustee Luckham: included in the notion of coastal protection and shoreline and eelgrass habitat and

[0:48:37] Trustee Luckham: all of these sorts of things. And then indeed, reciprocally, what happens on the shoreline in

[0:48:44] Trustee Luckham: terms of tree preservation and litter fall and all of those and nutrient leaching and all those

[0:48:52] Trustee Luckham: those kinds of things. So I'm interested in having some work investment on definitions.

[0:48:58] Trustee Luckham: And then I guess what I'm as a in scope or objective in order to frame the discussion

[0:49:06] Trustee Luckham: for the next phase. So I'll leave it there. And I'll just ask if there's any other thoughts or

[0:49:13] Trustee Luckham: remarks with respect to the thoughts that I've put on the table here. And then perhaps how staff

[0:49:20] Trustee Luckham: staff might advise that we might include that in the charter if it's necessary.

[0:49:29] Trustee Patrick: Any staff want to directly address that? Regional Planning Manager Coward.

[0:49:38] Voice 6: Yeah, I do want to speak to kind of scope and that kind of thing. One of the things that

[0:49:46] Voice 6: we are still trying to figure out with the regional planning team is what is their work

[0:49:52] Voice 6: versus what is the work of the planners in our office and when you start um talking about major

[0:50:01] Voice 6: public engagement initiatives um that starts getting into the realm of what what we're

[0:50:08] Voice 6: starting to think about as regional planning team activities and not not necessarily the team of the

[0:50:15] Voice 6: north um so it depends on the scale of those um but that's something that we've kind of started

[0:50:22] Voice 6: of thinking about is major public engagement means the regional planning team will be doing that work.

[0:50:31] Voice 6: So I just wanted to point that out.

[0:50:35] Trustee Patrick: I had some questions that might help on this line,

[0:50:39] Trustee Patrick: because I understand why we take the parallel scope of doing First Nations engagement while

[0:50:46] Trustee Patrick: we're doing other work. I want to just ask the question, are we missing opportunities to help

[0:50:53] Trustee Patrick: the community learn some of the outcome from that engagement, why it's important, and so forth. So

[0:51:00] Trustee Patrick: we, instead of just doing parallel where the end is our destination, that if we're doing parallel,

[0:51:06] Trustee Patrick: but as we learn, we're also sharing, we're kind of helping prepare the community for,

[0:51:10] Trustee Patrick: you know, the conversation that we're having. Bring them along, I guess, on what we're hearing.

[0:51:18] Trustee Patrick: because that's that's how I would you know extensive community I don't think that I don't

[0:51:23] Trustee Patrick: consider that extensive I almost consider that more education and awareness of conversations

[0:51:30] Trustee Patrick: that we're having so that you know they do have the opportunity to provide feedback or comment or

[0:51:36] Trustee Patrick: or something as as we're going along and the other piece that I looked at we have in the

[0:51:41] Trustee Patrick: but in scope, we say first nation engagement

[0:51:44] Trustee Patrick: and areas of concern.

[0:51:45] Trustee Patrick: I really like the language that the Laiacson Nation used

[0:51:49] Trustee Patrick: in the letter that they sent us about,

[0:51:52] Trustee Patrick: I don't have it open in front of me,

[0:51:54] Trustee Patrick: but it was about problem definition

[0:51:56] Trustee Patrick: and solutions or something of that nature

[0:52:02] Trustee Patrick: that they wanted to be involved in at that stage.

[0:52:05] Trustee Patrick: And I think that might help

[0:52:08] Trustee Patrick: with what Trustee Luckum was talking about.

[0:52:10] Trustee Patrick: And I think part of this is we're trying to define what the problem is at this stage.

[0:52:15] Trustee Patrick: What is the most important items that we want to work on and why?

[0:52:22] Trustee Patrick: And to me, that's problem definition.

[0:52:24] Trustee Patrick: We're trying to find what the problem is and define what the tools are that we have to address that problem.

[0:52:32] Trustee Patrick: It's that sort of a nutshell of what we're trying to do.

[0:52:36] Trustee Patrick: do and uh and so that's that's those are my comments maybe

[0:52:44] Trustee Luckham: i'll just respond thank you

[0:52:46] Trustee Luckham: trustee patrick because you're absolutely right um i think in it's um lost the word it's a bit

[0:52:55] Trustee Luckham: um it's a it's it's would be a mistake to think that we know what the issues and the challenges

[0:53:01] Trustee Luckham: are and indeed i think we can learn what the issues and challenges are from a traditional

[0:53:07] Trustee Luckham: knowledge perspective and from our First Nations in the area that will help us understand

[0:53:16] Trustee Luckham: other aspects that we may not be aware of about coastal shoreline protection. And that's

[0:53:22] Trustee Luckham: definitely something, as you've indicated, something that we need to share with our community

[0:53:25] Trustee Luckham: in order to help them understand why we think that this work is important. But let's also find

[0:53:35] Trustee Luckham: out why First Nations think that this work is important because we do hear about this on a

[0:53:40] Trustee Luckham: regular basis about the shoreline and marine protection, archaeological sites and cultural

[0:53:45] Trustee Luckham: heritage, just to name a few. So thank you.

[0:53:52] Trustee Patrick: Trustee Fenton, you're muted again.

[0:54:00] Trustee Patrick: I

[0:54:04] Trustee Fenton: was heating up my coffee and I didn't want to bother you all.

[0:54:08] Trustee Fenton: um then it stings you so this brings me back to this conversation i had in the around christmas

[0:54:15] Trustee Fenton: christmas new year's break and a little hiatus where we were allowed to go between islands i

[0:54:21] Trustee Fenton: had a little walk on the shoreline with uh augie sylvester one of the elders from um penelope and

[0:54:29] Trustee Fenton: and Councillor Ken,

[0:54:34] Trustee Fenton: and we spoke, the conversation was big,

[0:54:39] Trustee Fenton: was just a bit humbling and sort of,

[0:54:46] Trustee Fenton: but at the same time, their concerns arised

[0:54:50] Trustee Fenton: sort of the whole thing that they're always late

[0:54:54] Trustee Fenton: in the conversation.

[0:54:55] Trustee Fenton: So this brings me back to what I brought up in the past

[0:54:58] Trustee Fenton: and that is how do we put them at the table, at the ideas table, not at a referral table.

[0:55:06] Trustee Fenton: So how do we, they want to be part of the conversation, not reviewing a document

[0:55:11] Trustee Fenton: that's already decided or already full of ideas. So I think this is a great opportunity.

[0:55:19] Trustee Fenton: I don't have answers to it, but I would put it to the staff as a unique and intriguing challenge as to how do we engage Penelope and the LIAACs accordingly for their areas, appropriate areas of concern and or input where we can have them at that idea stage.

[0:55:50] Trustee Fenton: where they're actually providing that list to us of insight.

[0:55:53] Trustee Fenton: And maybe this will also give us a list or a more refined list

[0:55:58] Trustee Fenton: of where the community needs to be engaged,

[0:56:02] Trustee Fenton: even on an ongoing basis, you know, community walks and talks

[0:56:06] Trustee Fenton: or things that we might be allowed to do in the next few months

[0:56:11] Trustee Fenton: with respect to COVID.

[0:56:14] Trustee Fenton: But this would provide us with an opportunity

[0:56:17] Trustee Fenton: to start opening that conversation

[0:56:19] Trustee Fenton: with the community

[0:56:20] Trustee Fenton: but at the same time

[0:56:23] Trustee Fenton: whether it's formally or informally

[0:56:25] Trustee Fenton: I'm not sure how we go there

[0:56:27] Trustee Fenton: to get that door opened

[0:56:29] Trustee Fenton: early in the conversation

[0:56:31] Trustee Fenton: with

[0:56:33] Trustee Fenton: Penelope specifically

[0:56:34] Trustee Fenton: because of the conversation I'm describing

[0:56:37] Trustee Fenton: here

[0:56:39] Trustee Fenton: I just think

[0:56:40] Trustee Fenton: there's got to be

[0:56:42] Trustee Fenton: some opportunities there

[0:56:46] Trustee Fenton: that we can exploit

[0:56:47] Trustee Fenton: um and just as a short story to this whole piece is that i didn't arrange for certain individuals

[0:56:54] Trustee Fenton: and property owners to be at this visit because it was i was there to hear and listen to the

[0:57:01] Trustee Fenton: uh panel input um and specifically and yeah and we had covid and all these other restraints so we

[0:57:09] Trustee Fenton: were on a beach distance you know behaving ourselves and not and avoiding the community

[0:57:14] Trustee Fenton: in that regard for those reasons um but certain individuals showed up you know on their own

[0:57:20] Trustee Fenton: volition um to make sure we weren't doing the wrong things down uh to their property and out

[0:57:27] Trustee Fenton: of that conversation which was initially very abrasive um so you know that they were very

[0:57:33] Trustee Fenton: concerned about our presence um but by the end of the conversation Penelope had them there and

[0:57:40] Trustee Fenton: And on the beach, having a conversation, it was fantastic.

[0:57:43] Trustee Fenton: We made a lot of miles, I think, in that conversation.

[0:57:48] Trustee Fenton: It was informal, and they were wanting informal conversations.

[0:57:52] Trustee Fenton: And I just said, well, we weren't in that position.

[0:57:54] Trustee Fenton: And I wasn't down there officially.

[0:57:56] Trustee Fenton: We were down there at Penelope's request to have a walk on the beach and look at what the issues might be or what their concerns were.

[0:58:07] Trustee Fenton: were but as i say they they were able to just without a lot of formality just take that

[0:58:15] Trustee Fenton: conversation and turn it into a really fortuitous opportunity and there were some very different

[0:58:22] Trustee Fenton: tones and discussions by the end of it so yeah i i know how we worked at but i think that there's

[0:58:29] Trustee Fenton: yeah opportunity there for us and

[0:58:33] Trustee Patrick: i think that might be the question for staff is that

[0:58:35] Trustee Patrick: But are we sounding out of line with your expectation of what you thought for engagement?

[0:58:41] Trustee Patrick: I

[0:58:49] Voice 6: guess I'm still trying to imagine what we are approaching them with.

[0:58:59] Voice 6: What question are we asking of them, too?

[0:59:04] Voice 6: Are we saying we want to protect the shoreline and we want your ideas about how to do that?

[0:59:13] Voice 6: or i guess i'm yeah i'm still not clear on what i'm

[0:59:17] Trustee Patrick: hearing more the interaction it's it's bringing

[0:59:19] Trustee Patrick: the first nations conversation to the community in in ways as well so uh like i think examples

[0:59:30] Trustee Patrick: like rusty benton was just saying having that opportunity for a group of people to hear from

[0:59:35] Trustee Patrick: the elder about what are those values what are the values they're saying um that it just it starts to

[0:59:41] Trustee Patrick: help prepare the community to hear and join in on on on that because to me at the end of all of this

[0:59:49] Trustee Patrick: we're going to choose or not choose to proceed with the project and that project is going to

[0:59:54] Trustee Patrick: have a very defined scope what we're hoping is that scope is welcome to buy

[1:00:00] Trustee Patrick: nations and our you know the community is understanding why we're going this way you know

[1:00:06] Trustee Patrick: there's still a whole big process coming that's the you know the big as we get down to if there's

[1:00:11] Trustee Patrick: a regulation or something that needs to be changed or to do that but

[1:00:17] Voice 6: yeah sorry if i could i know

[1:00:19] Voice 6: trustee luckham wants to speak but just to follow up i mean so part of what we what we and then in

[1:00:25] Voice 6: the Northern office struggle with a little bit is that, you know, we're planners, we do OCPs and

[1:00:32] Voice 6: LUBs, we do regulations. That's what we do. And we do public engagement related to those documents

[1:00:41] Voice 6: and regulations and policies. And we have expertise in doing engagement related to those things.

[1:00:49] Voice 6: But we don't necessarily have expertise in engaging with First Nations. And

[1:00:54] Voice 6: And, and, and in, you know, having conversations with the communities about just general values and things that go beyond land use and OCPs and IVs.

[1:01:11] Voice 6: So, so I just kind of want us to keep that in mind too. I mean, that's, that's how we approach these project charters and, and projects in general for the LTC.

[1:01:21] Voice 6: see so if you're it's you know i'm wondering if this kind of project includes other divisions

[1:01:29] Voice 6: that aren't land use planning folks like taz or the conservancy or lisa you know maybe this is a

[1:01:37] Voice 6: project as opposed to yeah or

[1:01:43] Trustee Fenton: transdisciplinary um

[1:01:49] Trustee Luckham: maybe i'll chime in um um and i'm trying to

[1:01:56] Trustee Luckham: collect my thoughts actually because you introduced a new uh concept there um lisa is only one person

[1:02:06] Trustee Luckham: that's all i can say with an enormous um plate and opportunity um for more work and how we how

[1:02:16] Trustee Luckham: we manage that i i don't know um and indeed there's lots to learn here and i'm thinking about

[1:02:23] Trustee Luckham: the project charter it from more of a 10 000 foot level here now although i've got some things that

[1:02:29] Trustee Luckham: i've written down that are at the macro micro level um because certainly what we're trying to

[1:02:35] Trustee Luckham: do here is frame out what our intentions are and then maybe get some work to sign it create the

[1:02:43] Trustee Luckham: opportunity for some focus get some information for some kind of focus and then indeed embark

[1:02:49] Trustee Luckham: embark upon whatever that work is. But in response to your question initially there, Heather,

[1:02:58] Trustee Luckham: if I was on the ferry talking to somebody from Penelope, the question that I have that's in my

[1:03:06] Trustee Luckham: mind is that we have heard and we know that you are interested and concerned about shoreline

[1:03:14] Trustee Luckham: development around fetus island and we would like to know what those concerns are and we would like

[1:03:21] Trustee Luckham: to work with you to facilitate the level of protection that you think is necessary and we

[1:03:30] Trustee Luckham: would like to have the opportunity to share with you what are what we think and what our concerns

[1:03:36] Trustee Luckham: might be and so I think that that's the beginning of really is the beginning of the conversation for

[1:03:44] Trustee Luckham: this first charter to uh actually figure out you know it's actually interesting right to figure out

[1:03:51] Trustee Luckham: what's in scope um and indeed if this is a bigger project um absolutely bring in more resources and

[1:03:59] Trustee Luckham: you know sure we'll have to lobby for support and all that kind of stuff but i think that at this

[1:04:05] Trustee Luckham: point um we need to figure out what's in scope and what we've learned more than anything else

[1:04:11] Trustee Luckham: is especially on these marine and coastal matters is ask the first nations first rather than creating

[1:04:20] Trustee Luckham: your intentions and then going and then hearing oh well did you guys think about this or that

[1:04:25] Trustee Luckham: or you know why didn't you consult with us first kind of thing and and i'm totally uh i don't see

[1:04:30] Trustee Luckham: that as a negative at all by the way it's um it's what we should be doing and so um that's what i'm

[1:04:37] Trustee Luckham: interested in pursuing um and at some point we'll know how much more resources we need and how much

[1:04:46] Trustee Luckham: more budget we need and all the rest of it but initially i think we need to frame um the work

[1:04:53] Trustee Luckham: so that's kind of how i'm seeing this is the first pass at coming to understand what trustee fenton

[1:04:58] Trustee Luckham: and just vice and chair patrick and the community and first nations that's actually turn that around

[1:05:04] Trustee Luckham: first nations the ltc and community um think about what it is that we're desiring to do

[1:05:13] Trustee Luckham: in the midst of habitat loss environmental destruction and climate change um there's a

[1:05:20] Trustee Luckham: responsibility here which i don't think we want to take lightly i have some suggestions if anybody

[1:05:26] Trustee Luckham: wants to hear those with respect to the charter go for it

[1:05:29] Trustee Luckham: um so i'm just going to pull this up

[1:05:34] Trustee Luckham: and I'm also working with one computer so it's a bit of a challenge but I'm going to start out

[1:05:39] Trustee Luckham: simple and just I'll just speak to this in and I'll maybe frame it as a motion and then if it

[1:05:45] Trustee Luckham: gets a seconder or it gets a friendly amendment I'd be happy with that but I see the three pieces

[1:05:51] Trustee Luckham: in discrete sections I don't want to change the outer scope I agree with that I want to change

[1:05:56] Trustee Luckham: the objectives in order to end to potentially answer the question and provide the direction

[1:06:01] Trustee Luckham: that I think needs to be just worded slightly different.

[1:06:04] Trustee Luckham: At the end of the day,

[1:06:05] Trustee Luckham: we're probably doing exactly the same thing,

[1:06:07] Trustee Luckham: but it's in the language that it's important.

[1:06:10] Trustee Luckham: So I would like to move then

[1:06:13] Trustee Luckham: that the first bullet on the objectives

[1:06:16] Trustee Luckham: be changed to read,

[1:06:19] Trustee Luckham: to identify issues, challenges, and opportunities

[1:06:26] Trustee Luckham: related to shoreline and coastal protection

[1:06:29] Trustee Luckham: protection, in collaboration with First Nations and community, and I just want to leave it there.

[1:06:41] Trustee Luckham: That's what I think that needs to say, and then I'm just going to, I think that the second bullet

[1:06:48] Trustee Luckham: is perfect to frame the direction and scope of the project. That's it. I think that's what we

[1:06:52] Trustee Luckham: want to do, and one could even add there in collaboration, blah, blah, but I think you don't

[1:06:57] Trustee Luckham: need to repeat ourselves but what I do want to add as an objective as a third bullet there is

[1:07:04] Trustee Luckham: and I don't know what the word might be actually I'm just going to use the word table

[1:07:07] Trustee Luckham: to create a table of definitions as a result of what we learn through consultation and so those

[1:07:19] Trustee Luckham: end up being the objective and then I think and I'm purposefully leaving extensive

[1:07:26] Trustee Luckham: of community engagement in the outer scope,

[1:07:29] Trustee Luckham: but I do wanna add a bullet that does say

[1:07:34] Trustee Luckham: community consultation, it's a softer word maybe

[1:07:41] Trustee Luckham: than engagement, but maybe it just needs to be

[1:07:43] Trustee Luckham: the same word as engagement.

[1:07:45] Trustee Luckham: So those are the three things that I would like to change

[1:07:49] Trustee Luckham: on the draft.

[1:07:51] Trustee Luckham: And if maybe that needs to be three different motions,

[1:07:56] Trustee Luckham: but and I think I made the first one at this point.

[1:08:02] Trustee Luckham: I'll stop there and seek feedback.

[1:08:06] Trustee Patrick: I'll look to staff to see if there were any concerns

[1:08:10] Trustee Patrick: with any of those points that you raised

[1:08:11] Trustee Patrick: or any detail that understanding that they need.

[1:08:19] Voice 5: Thank you through the chair.

[1:08:21] Voice 5: So I, yeah, I've captured what trustee Luckum has suggested

[1:08:26] Voice 5: suggested and I just wanted to say that you can just in your resolution you can just list each

[1:08:32] Voice 5: item that's that's been done I looked back to see how we've done it before while we were chatting

[1:08:37] Voice 5: here so I just wanted to just clarify though on the table of definitions I guess I guess I just

[1:08:46] Voice 5: want to make sure I understand you correctly you're you're looking at I get I mean we've

[1:08:53] Voice 5: got definitions of things but you're looking at like what um you know what the first nations that

[1:08:59] Voice 5: we speak to with with how they define terms and what yeah that

[1:09:06] Trustee Luckham: well that's a good idea too

[1:09:07] Trustee Luckham: but i think what i'm looking for is some definitions about the words shoreline and

[1:09:16] Trustee Luckham: coastal protection okay let's define what that means does that mean aquaculture does that mean

[1:09:24] Trustee Luckham: uh uh upland uh whatever you know i think that's what i'm seeking there so if that

[1:09:31] Trustee Luckham: helps and if there's maybe more language necessary there that's always the tricky

[1:09:37] Trustee Luckham: part is how do you grasp that but i think because perhaps that's a then that should

[1:09:41] Trustee Luckham: say to create a table of definitions um or to maybe it just needs to be to define

[1:09:53] Trustee Luckham: shoreline

[1:09:54] Trustee Luckham: and coastal protection

[1:09:55] Trustee Luckham: as a result of what we learn

[1:09:58] Trustee Luckham: because indeed that's the part

[1:10:00] Trustee Luckham: where we're going to learn that from the First Nations

[1:10:03] Trustee Luckham: we're going to learn that from community

[1:10:07] Trustee Luckham: Trustee Fenton

[1:10:08] Trustee Patrick: yeah

[1:10:09] Trustee Fenton: I'm just thinking

[1:10:09] Trustee Fenton: the concepts

[1:10:12] Trustee Fenton: so these are interfacing

[1:10:14] Trustee Fenton: there's overlapping concepts

[1:10:16] Trustee Fenton: that fit there's the colonial

[1:10:19] Trustee Fenton: management there's

[1:10:20] Trustee Fenton: the colonial harvesting there's the colonial

[1:10:22] Trustee Fenton: the aquaculture and then there's the indigenous parameters there's the ecological parameters and

[1:10:30] Trustee Fenton: definitions so i think yeah you can have these i'll list definitions but the broader overarching

[1:10:36] Trustee Fenton: pieces are these concepts and where do they fit and there's regulatory concepts there's regular

[1:10:40] Trustee Fenton: you know there's indigenous law that plays into this there's uh all these different things that

[1:10:46] Trustee Fenton: that are more at the concept level,

[1:10:48] Trustee Fenton: as Trustee Luckham's speaking to that are important

[1:10:55] Trustee Fenton: for us to sort of get out, pull out teeth on.

[1:10:59] Trustee Fenton: Those will also help us in our conversations

[1:11:02] Trustee Fenton: in debate, you know, where these things are going.

[1:11:06] Trustee Fenton: So I think that's a very good idea

[1:11:08] Trustee Fenton: and that will help us with defining the,

[1:11:13] Trustee Fenton: As I put, I've seen this sort of colonial paradigms and policy and procedures versus a more sort of insightful and holistic look at this shoreline protection concept.

[1:11:32] Trustee Fenton: So I'm just writing

[1:11:41] Trustee Luckham: down an amended second thing here, if you can bear with me, capturing some of what you just said there, Doug. Thank you.

[1:11:49] Trustee Fenton: no that's good i just think that the um yeah we're going to the other one is that's a SWOT

[1:11:55] Trustee Fenton: analysis right that's sort of but what you need to put on there are the strengths weaknesses

[1:11:59] Trustee Fenton: opportunities and um and potential barriers and that those will help because i think something

[1:12:09] Trustee Fenton: we bring and we should be looking and um we had a meeting early on our sort of strategic goals

[1:12:18] Trustee Fenton: with trust council and we talked about what unique skill sets do we bring into the planners bring

[1:12:25] Trustee Fenton: to this conversation right and this is to me this is that opportunity where we need to be exploring

[1:12:31] Trustee Fenton: but we don't have to do it like it's been done in the past we need to find new ways to bridge

[1:12:37] Trustee Fenton: these waters and approach these challenges and you as planners have made it very clear as to

[1:12:42] Trustee Fenton: where you're coming from because that's your job that's the way it's always been that's how you've

[1:12:46] Trustee Fenton: been trained that's how the laws actually are set up so how do we actually come to a more insightful

[1:12:53] Trustee Fenton: community-based vision you know one of the challenges we're seeing with our policy statement

[1:13:02] Trustee Fenton: is that community is just disconnected from in so many ways and or they're passionate about

[1:13:09] Trustee Fenton: the environment but they don't understand all of those other conversations in the background

[1:13:14] Trustee Fenton: ground that have brought community into the environmental realm right and sort of connecting

[1:13:21] Trustee Fenton: those two pieces together so i see this more holistic um less colonial maybe in the future

[1:13:30] Trustee Fenton: our new colonial approach um being our public engagement may change in time and so this is an

[1:13:37] Trustee Fenton: opportunity where we could have find new ways to address this more holistically

[1:13:47] Trustee Fenton: well

[1:13:50] Trustee Patrick: poor heather's looking like i'm not sure how i'm going to do this but um i i think the key is

[1:13:57] Trustee Patrick: that this is a searching exercise i think you're hearing that from the trustees that uh we don't

[1:14:03] Trustee Patrick: know the answers either and i think if we go into this with that um you know that this is a bit of

[1:14:10] Trustee Patrick: a journey that we're going on and we may end up out the other side who knows um because i think

[1:14:16] Trustee Patrick: that's you know through conversation we'll discover what is the most important uh areas

[1:14:21] Trustee Patrick: and maybe it'll end up being cultural heritage well that's that whole other project that's

[1:14:25] Trustee Patrick: happening through through the regional planning group and um and maybe that that's what maybe

[1:14:32] Trustee Patrick: that's all the issue is or it's something very different and um and i think that's what uh

[1:14:38] Trustee Patrick: this exploration would would bring us to all right trustee luckham are you ready to attempt

[1:14:48] Trustee Patrick: some motions i

[1:14:49] Trustee Luckham: am actually um and thank you for that additional piece there because i

[1:14:55] Trustee Luckham: modified it yet again

[1:14:56] Voice 8: i

[1:14:57] Trustee Luckham: just i just want to kind of capture some interesting elements here

[1:15:03] Trustee Luckham: and this may worry the planning staff even more they might be already but you know it's so very

[1:15:11] Trustee Luckham: very true. We are on a journey and we are a journey of reconciliation and understanding

[1:15:18] Trustee Luckham: and learning. And to be quite honest, what we've been doing historically maybe doesn't fit into

[1:15:24] Trustee Luckham: the framework and maybe we're going to learn new ways to do things. And sure, the unknown is

[1:15:30] Trustee Luckham: terrifying. I totally get that. But I think from what I've come to understand and just, you know,

[1:15:40] Trustee Luckham: the last couple of years really is that when we start thinking about natural law

[1:15:47] Trustee Luckham: traditional knowledge aboriginal

[1:15:51] Trustee Luckham: um aboriginal law none of that is actually bylaws and yet culturally nobody breaks those laws

[1:16:07] Trustee Luckham: which actually is an amazing tool because we're gonna

[1:16:12] Trustee Luckham: have to buy law enforcement officers

[1:16:16] Trustee Luckham: Although

[1:16:16] Voice 1: I love our

[1:16:17] Trustee Luckham: bylaws and sources and officers.

[1:16:18] Trustee Luckham: So there's a, you know, I don't know what the outcome is, but I just want to say there's an amazing opportunity for here for us to learn about things and find ways to adapt these things into what we do and how we think about things.

[1:16:34] Trustee Luckham: and ideally we bring our communities into that space too so that we again

[1:16:43] Trustee Luckham: everybody embraces it because it's part of the fiber of our culture and that's I

[1:16:49] Trustee Luckham: think something that's missing anyway I just want to throw that out for thought

[1:16:53] Trustee Luckham: but I think that I haven't changed the first motion but why don't you read it

[1:17:02] Trustee Luckham: out again so that so then I'm going to move and again I'm open to any

[1:17:07] Trustee Luckham: amendments. I'm going to move that the Theta Sound Local Trust Committee, let me

[1:17:14] Trustee Luckham: pull it up so I can reference it properly, amend the objectives of Charter

[1:17:21] Trustee Luckham: Version 1, the first bullet, to read, to identify issues, challenges, and

[1:17:29] Trustee Luckham: opportunities, and I think, Doug, I'd like to stick with those words rather than

[1:17:34] Trustee Luckham: the traditional SWOT phraseology, but anyway, sorry, to identify issues,

[1:17:39] Trustee Luckham: issues, challenges, and opportunities related to shoreline and coastal protection in collaboration

[1:17:43] Trustee Luckham: with First Nations and community, full stop. And then the second objective stays the same.

[1:17:59] Trustee Luckham: A third objective that I would like to add is to create a framework and definitions respecting

[1:18:12] Trustee Luckham: respecting, quote, shoreline and coastal protection, close quote, from what we learn

[1:18:18] Trustee Luckham: through First Nations community engagement and other islands trust regional projects

[1:18:31] Trustee Luckham: respecting shoreline and coastal protection. Yeah. And then so then that full stop. And then

[1:18:50] Trustee Luckham: I'd be happy to change that word engagement to something else if we wanted to be a little

[1:18:55] Trustee Luckham: softer on that a

[1:18:56] Trustee Patrick: high level what would be a word that would help staff you know as opposed to

[1:19:01] Trustee Patrick: extensive it's somewhat of a

[1:19:04] Trustee Fenton: input highly

[1:19:06] Trustee Patrick: high level input high level is there a word that would

[1:19:09] Trustee Patrick: make it distinguishable so

[1:19:16] Voice 5: uh through the chair um under the in scope yes

[1:19:20] Trustee Luckham: yeah maybe it's early

[1:19:22] Trustee Luckham: early consultation or

[1:19:24] Trustee Patrick: what would work i'm just trying to think of a word that helps

[1:19:28] Trustee Patrick: not confuse by saying we have extensive out of scope but yet we we put community engagement in

[1:19:33] Trustee Patrick: scope but we want to be able to

[1:19:36] Trustee Fenton: indicate kind of

[1:19:38] Trustee Fenton: engagement though it's not a sorry what was that

[1:19:44] Trustee Fenton: trustee fenn it's it's not the standard process that we're following this early engagement is

[1:19:50] Trustee Fenton: it's it's um less formal yeah it's

[1:19:56] Trustee Patrick: an exploration as opposed to engagement

[1:19:59] Trustee Fenton: yeah sort of like finding me so yeah

[1:20:02] Trustee Luckham: so could we say inform you know i don't i don't like the

[1:20:06] Trustee Luckham: word informal but could we could we just simply say that um uh exploit uh exploration with the

[1:20:14] Trustee Luckham: community maybe that's um yeah that that's too broad that's too broad to be actually i think

[1:20:23] Trustee Patrick: just either high level community engagement or early consultation something that indicates that

[1:20:33] Trustee Patrick: this isn't done that's

[1:20:35] Trustee Luckham: why i think the early consultation i think maybe is uh maybe better

[1:20:42] Trustee Luckham: and obviously there's a responsibility on the trustees um i also want to just note in passing

[1:20:48] Trustee Luckham: that I think we need to add some more money

[1:20:50] Trustee Luckham: into the budget to allow for this as well.

[1:20:54] Trustee Luckham: So does your staff have any concerns

[1:20:57] Trustee Luckham: about the use of the word early consultation?

[1:21:03] Trustee Patrick: Nope, I'm seeing a no.

[1:21:05] Trustee Patrick: All right, before I have that seconded,

[1:21:07] Trustee Patrick: can I give poor Sarah a chance to come back and see?

[1:21:10] Voice 8: Thank you, Sarah.

[1:21:11] Voice 4: Good though.

[1:21:13] Voice 4: Thank you, Chair Patrick.

[1:21:14] Voice 4: I could share my screen.

[1:21:16] Voice 4: Sure, that'd be great.

[1:21:17] Voice 4: Okay, can you see that now?

[1:21:33] Voice 4: now? Yes. Okay.

[1:22:03] Trustee Luckham: That looks fine to me. I just want to add, you know, that this is also part

[1:22:11] Trustee Luckham: of our engagement here and that we're engaging with staff who are going to help us deliver on

[1:22:17] Trustee Luckham: this. And I really want to be sure that you think we've heard what you've articulated as

[1:22:25] Trustee Luckham: concerns about the project and the and is there enough here to get you started on um helping us

[1:22:36] Trustee Luckham: meet the objectives that are now listed jamie

[1:22:45] Voice 6: do you want me to respond to that

[1:22:49] Voice 6: i'm curious what jamie thinks too because i think she'll be she'll be the one really primarily

[1:22:53] Voice 6: working on this but um what i am imagining is that we are going to have to immediately go to lisa

[1:23:00] Voice 6: and say how do you think this would work and what do you think the budget around it would be

[1:23:05] Voice 6: um so there's a little bit more scoping of the project right

[1:23:09] Voice 8: in

[1:23:10] Voice 6: general i think our i think our

[1:23:14] Voice 6: organization is going in this direction we want to do early consultation with first nations we

[1:23:20] Voice 6: just haven't quite figured out how to do it yet um and so we're we're sort of figuring it out as

[1:23:27] Voice 6: we go and um and so it's going to take a little bit of it's going to take asking lisa about um

[1:23:33] Voice 6: how we do this and what her capacity to help is um and we'll and we'll have to do that

[1:23:43] Trustee Patrick: we're running into this everywhere and i think

[1:23:47] Trustee Patrick: it's it's going to be it's one of the learning

[1:23:48] Trustee Patrick: curves that we need to keep working on and it's okay it's okay to admit you know that

[1:23:54] Trustee Patrick: we're learning and we're trying to figure this out and that's it

[1:24:01] Voice 8: question

[1:24:04] Trustee Fenton: your third bullet

[1:24:08] Trustee Fenton: should you say engagement and sharing i'm

[1:24:13] Trustee Luckham: sure that

[1:24:16] Trustee Fenton: sounds good once again the notion of sort of

[1:24:18] Trustee Fenton: you know more exploratory nosing around looking turn over rocks having a look and

[1:24:25] Trustee Luckham: so which one

[1:24:26] Trustee Luckham: is it that you're um speaking to specifically you said the

[1:24:29] Trustee Fenton: third bullet i'm not looking

[1:24:32] Trustee Luckham: i can't see

[1:24:32] Trustee Luckham: I only see people right now I don't

[1:24:33] Trustee Fenton: see anything else oh it's coming back there you go what I did

[1:24:38] Trustee Fenton: but I lost that page there okay yeah so and sharing yeah correct of

[1:24:43] Trustee Fenton: okay

[1:24:44] Trustee Luckham: I'm fine I'm fine

[1:24:45] Trustee Luckham: with that all

[1:24:48] Trustee Patrick: right is that good is there if we're okay with that is there a second to this motion

[1:24:53] Trustee Luckham: oh so oh thank

[1:24:55] Trustee Luckham: you yeah he's

[1:24:57] Trustee Patrick: not done yet

[1:24:57] Trustee Luckham: well I'm just wondering where we're going next because

[1:25:02] Trustee Luckham: Because there is, I would suggest that the budget be doubled with respect to the work that needs to get done.

[1:25:11] Trustee Luckham: But maybe that can come after.

[1:25:13] Trustee Luckham: But I think that what I'm struggling with here a little bit is if we're going to consult with staff further on this,

[1:25:21] Trustee Luckham: I'm presuming that we're not necessarily going to endorse this today,

[1:25:25] Trustee Luckham: day but that make these amendments and then have a further further advice from other staff outside

[1:25:34] Trustee Luckham: of the northern office with respect to the project just some help there would be great

[1:25:39] Trustee Luckham: you

[1:25:42] Voice 6: could endorse it today and then we come back with amendments or or yeah as you say you can just

[1:25:49] Voice 6: add these amendments and we'll go away and bring either way I think we're going to have to bring

[1:25:52] Voice 6: you um updated information and we'd have to amend it okay

[1:25:57] Trustee Luckham: so then uh indeed i move that motion that's

[1:26:01] Trustee Luckham: on the screen there all

[1:26:02] Trustee Patrick: right is there a second to this motion trustee phantom is there any yes

[1:26:07] Trustee Fenton: mark on my arm it's not working probably there

[1:26:11] Trustee Patrick: you go any discussion so

[1:26:14] Trustee Fenton: does that i'm talking

[1:26:16] Trustee Fenton: we're looking at timeline etc so this is this going to delay us off by another meeting

[1:26:24] Trustee Fenton: Or can this be information come to us between now and our next meeting and we can get this moving otherwise?

[1:26:38] Trustee Patrick: Well, I think one possibility there was to endorse it today.

[1:26:43] Trustee Patrick: That gives staff some direction to get going, but they may come back and have some recommended amendments pending their initial conversations.

[1:26:52] Trustee Patrick: Is that how I understand it?

[1:26:53] Trustee Luckham: Yeah, I agree with that assessment.

[1:26:55] Trustee Luckham: yeah

[1:26:55] Trustee Patrick: so that makes sense so any further discussion on this motion if not i'll call the vote then

[1:27:03] Trustee Patrick: all those in favor aye and

[1:27:06] Trustee Patrick: that's carried so

[1:27:11] Trustee Luckham: uh through the chair um regional planning manager

[1:27:15] Trustee Luckham: cower would it be appropriate to make an amendment to the budget at this time or is that something

[1:27:20] Trustee Luckham: that you would bring back to us if we endorsed it now so i would maybe add five hundred dollars in

[1:27:25] Trustee Luckham: there for uh community engagement just because there might be hall rental or something you know

[1:27:31] Trustee Luckham: who knows beach

[1:27:37] Trustee Fenton: rental that's what needs to happen well

[1:27:41] Trustee Patrick: i think typically staff will come

[1:27:43] Trustee Patrick: if i'm correct they'll kind of you'll come back and sort of assess what's what budget you'll want

[1:27:51] Trustee Patrick: is that better way so that could be a potential amendment coming back is to either leave the

[1:27:56] Trustee Patrick: budget as is and then pending the changes that we've made and the initial work that they do if

[1:28:01] Trustee Patrick: you endorse it today they may come back and say you know we need a bigger budget

[1:28:06] Voice 6: yeah that'll be part of our discussion with lisa okay

[1:28:09] Trustee Patrick: and

[1:28:11] Trustee Luckham: so it's not necessary for us to set some

[1:28:14] Trustee Luckham: expectation that we understand you're going to spend one that's sort of that's the way i can

[1:28:19] Trustee Luckham: look at it okay no they'll

[1:28:21] Trustee Luckham: come back with an

[1:28:21] Trustee Patrick: amendment okay

[1:28:22] Trustee Luckham: great so then a motion to uh

[1:28:25] Trustee Luckham: endorse is i think probably then what you're looking for and i end up changing to my other

[1:28:31] Trustee Luckham: the screen so i don't get to see

[1:28:33] Trustee Patrick: it's on page 22 of the agenda package right

[1:28:36] Trustee Luckham: um all right then

[1:28:38] Trustee Luckham: doug you want to run with that one yeah i'm just coming to bring it here okay

[1:28:42] Trustee Fenton: so um how is that so

[1:28:47] Trustee Fenton: that'll be a move the fetus island local trust committee endorsed a fetus island shoreline and

[1:28:53] Trustee Fenton: coastal protection strategy project charter amended or as amended um dated june 1st 2021.

[1:29:04] Trustee Patrick: all right is there a second to that motion second second

[1:29:07] Trustee Patrick: by trustee luckham any discussion

[1:29:10] Trustee Patrick: no i'll call the vote then all those in favor

[1:29:14] Trustee Luckham: that's carried

[1:29:16] Trustee Luckham: so i want to just thank heather

[1:29:20] Trustee Luckham: and uh jamie um where um i'm thinking of the star trek for always going to places where we've never

[1:29:29] Trustee Luckham: been so thank you awesome to

[1:29:33] Trustee Patrick: infinity and beyond welcome

[1:29:37] Trustee Fenton: to that literally a new planning team for

[1:29:40] Trustee Fenton: me this is like it's uh yeah total change of faces here i

[1:29:45] Trustee Patrick: just uh just recalling back to the um to

[1:29:47] Trustee Patrick: to the ABICC, the Association of Vancouver Island

[1:29:50] Trustee Patrick: Coastal Communities Conference

[1:29:51] Trustee Patrick: that Peter Luckum and I participated in last Friday.

[1:29:57] Trustee Patrick: Chair John Jack of the...

[1:30:00] Trustee Patrick: Bernie Clayquot the regional district spoke about sort of where working with local government in

[1:30:07] Trustee Patrick: First Nations and I thought he was incredibly eloquent if that's available to go back and look

[1:30:14] Trustee Patrick: at that section session from the AVICC conference I actually highly recommend it because he was so

[1:30:19] Trustee Patrick: clear and so thoughtful in the words and how he described it but he really talked about how

[1:30:26] Trustee Patrick: how important, you know, he kind of said, imagine in the longhouse standing with, you know, the

[1:30:32] Trustee Patrick: elders explaining this, you know, it's being on, you know, he said it wasn't like being on display,

[1:30:39] Trustee Patrick: but he kind of used that as an example that we need to be seen, demonstrated, trying to make

[1:30:44] Trustee Patrick: these interactions and sharing these interactions publicly to move things forward. So it was, it's

[1:30:51] Trustee Patrick: exciting times. And I think that was, and he's like, you're going to make mistakes, you know,

[1:30:55] Trustee Patrick: we're we're all kind of working this through so i was um i was really impressed with the session

[1:31:00] Trustee Patrick: and it just helped me feel you know clearer on where we're going so thank you okay so any other

[1:31:10] Trustee Patrick: business than on the shoreline we'll so we'll move on then we're perhaps

[1:31:15] Trustee Luckham: i'll just add to your

[1:31:16] Trustee Luckham: remarks there but uh uh chair john jack but uh joji wilson reibold was also a speaker in that

[1:31:25] Trustee Luckham: that session. And if you haven't read any of her books, they're very worthwhile reading because

[1:31:32] Trustee Luckham: the messaging is very strong to both colonial communities and First Nations communities

[1:31:38] Trustee Luckham: about all of us engaging together and working towards this lofty goal

[1:31:46] Trustee Luckham: of one Canada, one people, you know, want to be careful about that language, but

[1:31:52] Trustee Luckham: but just working together to all live together

[1:31:57] Trustee Luckham: and work together in this place.

[1:31:58] Trustee Luckham: And I have often thought actually,

[1:32:00] Trustee Luckham: is that maybe that's something I need to bring

[1:32:02] Trustee Luckham: to executive committee.

[1:32:04] Trustee Luckham: I would really enjoy it if Jody Wilson-Reubel

[1:32:08] Trustee Luckham: addressed counsel on her thinking

[1:32:10] Trustee Luckham: from that very high level perspective that she has.

[1:32:14] Trustee Luckham: Anyway, that's another conversation.

[1:32:15] Trustee Luckham: Thank you, everyone.

[1:32:16] Trustee Patrick: All right, then.

[1:32:18] Trustee Patrick: So moving on.

[1:32:22] Voice 8: we

[1:32:22] Trustee Patrick: have uh no new business today but we have uh oh we don't have a whole lot of things here

[1:32:28] Trustee Patrick: that we have we have our standing resolutions are here on page 27

[1:32:34] Trustee Patrick: and then we have our top priorities and projects list on page 30 and 31 are there any

[1:32:39] Trustee Patrick: tensions to these things um yeah

[1:32:47] Trustee Patrick: so

[1:32:51] Trustee Luckham: any uh uh any updates on the riparian error regulations

[1:32:55] Trustee Luckham: when we might actually see that completely come off the list there's

[1:33:01] Voice 5: nothing to report yet okay

[1:33:03] Trustee Luckham: thank you all

[1:33:06] Trustee Patrick: right so just wait on that then so that it uh means our next meeting is uh august

[1:33:12] Trustee Patrick: 3rd august it seems like a long ways away but we know that's going to be snap of the finger and

[1:33:16] Trustee Patrick: it'll be back here so if there isn't any further business today i just need a motion to adjourn

[1:33:24] Trustee Fenton: go

[1:33:25] Trustee Patrick: yes please i

[1:33:28] Trustee Fenton: am just i was just looking at the the other projects below and with

[1:33:38] Trustee Fenton: and this is sort of my sense of this whole thing that we've always functioned in silos and um we

[1:33:46] Trustee Fenton: we noticed that the coastal protection fits into

[1:33:54] Trustee Fenton: and covers island-wide watershed protection,

[1:34:02] Trustee Fenton: supporting or the marine slough, habitat restoration,

[1:34:06] Trustee Fenton: sensitive ecosystem, education,

[1:34:11] Trustee Fenton: OCPs and LUBs, which we'll be having to put into effect

[1:34:15] Trustee Fenton: to to actually cover these areas um so like these are all and on the first nations um working with

[1:34:26] Trustee Fenton: the first nations right so none of this can be done in isolation and in actual fact will happen

[1:34:32] Trustee Fenton: in parallel so um these are exciting times and i look forward to the to the journey ahead of us

[1:34:40] Trustee Fenton: um and it brings me back to a thought that came up in my sustainability program in my

[1:34:46] Trustee Fenton: or one of the courses I took at Royal Roads

[1:34:49] Trustee Fenton: during my master's,

[1:34:50] Trustee Fenton: but one of the notions around

[1:34:53] Trustee Fenton: some of the best innovative solutions

[1:34:56] Trustee Fenton: regarding sustainability

[1:34:58] Trustee Fenton: come from not knowing, right?

[1:35:02] Trustee Fenton: The answers come from the sharing of ideas

[1:35:05] Trustee Fenton: and the breaking down of silos,

[1:35:08] Trustee Fenton: transdisciplinary knowledge, right?

[1:35:11] Trustee Fenton: Because the transdisciplinary knowledge

[1:35:13] Trustee Fenton: is incumbent upon it being at the table,

[1:35:16] Trustee Fenton: being part of the conversation we don't go in isolation to these bodies of knowledge you

[1:35:24] Trustee Fenton: actually they are part of that round table and so i think that's always inspired me when i

[1:35:30] Trustee Fenton: you hit the wall and you go we're never going to figure this out but that's where this is coming

[1:35:35] Trustee Fenton: from i'm totally stoked to participate thank you for the opportunity and i thank you everybody in

[1:35:42] Trustee Fenton: the background for all the work you do to help us get there well

[1:35:46] Trustee Patrick: thank you um trustee i actually i

[1:35:49] Trustee Patrick: actually say the same thing but i only i say it's actually liberating when we think of everything we

[1:35:53] Trustee Patrick: have to do it's like you know there's this there's so much and you become overwhelmed and you think

[1:35:59] Trustee Patrick: of it but when we can take this time and think about the problems and and focus it it suddenly

[1:36:04] Trustee Patrick: becomes achievable and it's only through that exploration that you find that focus so uh thank

[1:36:10] Trustee Patrick: Thank you.

[1:36:11] Trustee Patrick: And so

[1:36:12] Trustee Patrick: really enjoy working with you.

[1:36:14] Trustee Patrick: And I think we can be that.

[1:36:15] Trustee Patrick: We can be that model.

[1:36:16] Trustee Patrick: We're trying to be that model, Heather.

[1:36:19] Trustee Patrick: That's what we're trying to be.

[1:36:20] Trustee Patrick: And then we can work together and try to be that exploratory model.

[1:36:27] Trustee Patrick: Okay.

[1:36:28] Trustee Patrick: So do we have a motion to adjourn?

[1:36:31] Trustee Luckham: Motion to adjourn.

[1:36:32] Trustee Patrick: Is there a second?

[1:36:34] Trustee Patrick: Trustee Luckin

[1:36:35] Trustee Luckham: beat you there.

[1:36:35] Trustee Luckham: Hang on here.

[1:36:36] Trustee Patrick: A second.

[1:36:38] Trustee Patrick: Forearm.

[1:36:39] Trustee Patrick: I got to get you healed.

[1:36:41] Trustee Patrick: And with that, I'll call the vote.

[1:36:43] Trustee Patrick: All those in favor.

[1:36:45] Trustee Patrick: And we are adjourned.

[1:36:47] Trustee Patrick: So thank you, Heather.

[1:36:49] Trustee Patrick: Thank you, Jamie.

[1:36:50] Trustee Patrick: Thank you.

[1:36:51] Trustee Patrick: Thank you, Sarah.

[1:36:52] Trustee Patrick: Thank you, Will.

[1:36:53] Trustee Patrick: Thank you all for being here today.

[1:36:56] Trustee Patrick: And Director Smith.

[1:36:59] Trustee Patrick: Yes, and Director Smith.

[1:37:00] Trustee Patrick: Yes, nope, she snuck out.

[1:37:03] Trustee Patrick: Oh, she was still there.

[1:37:05] Trustee Patrick: Sorry, I can see your name still there.

[1:37:07] Trustee Patrick: So fabulous.

[1:37:08] Trustee Patrick: and we'll see you at Trust Council next week fellow trustees and yes next week

[1:37:14] Trustee Patrick: next week what

[1:37:17] Trustee Luckham: a scary concept you

[1:37:21] Trustee Patrick: scared me if it wasn't Tuesday

[1:37:25] Trustee Luckham: so yeah

[1:37:27] Trustee Luckham: yeah that's correct anyway I just want to acknowledge and thank chair Patrick

[1:37:35] Trustee Luckham: Thank you, Patrick, for helping us today, really appreciate the work. Thank you.

[1:37:39] Trustee Patrick: Thank you, and we will see you next week. Bye everybody.

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Thetis Island Local Trust Committee 
Minutes of Regular Meeting 
 
Date: 
Location: 
June 1, 2021 
Electronic Meeting 
 
Members Present: Laura Patrick, Chair 
 Doug Fenton, Local Trustee 
 Peter Luckham, Local Trustee 
  
Staff Present: Heather Kauer, Regional Planning Manager 
 Jaime Dubyna, Island Planner 
 Sarah Shugar, Recorder 
  
Others Present:  Lynne Smith, Cowichan Valley Regional District Area G Saltair / Gulf Islands 
Electoral Area Director 
 
1. CALL TO ORDER 
"Please note, the order of agenda items may be modified during the meeting. Times are provided 
for convenience only and are subject to change." 
Chair Patrick called the meeting to order at 9:30 am. She acknowledged that the meeting was 
being held in territory of the Coast Salish First Nations. Trustee Patrick acknowledged the lost 
children and unmarked graves of residential students of the former Kamloops Indian Residential 
School, and expressed support for the Penelakut Nation and continued reconciliation. 
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 
By general consent the agenda was approved as presented. 
3. REPORTS 
3.1 Trustee Reports 
  Trustee Fenton presented the following report: 
 Expressed gratitude to live and work in Lyackson and Penelakut territory. 
 Acknowledged the lost children and unmarked graves of residential students 
of the former Kamloops Indian Residential School, and expressed support for 
the Penelakut Nation and continued reconciliation. 
 Attended a Trust Programs Committee meeting regarding the Islands Trust Policy 
Review. 
 Attended an Islands Trust Conservancy meeting. The Islands Trust Conservancy 
Heron newsletter is available on the Islands Trust website. 
 
  Trustee Luckham presented the following report: 
 Expressed gratitude to live and work in Lyackson and Penelakut territory. 

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 Acknowledged the recently discovered missing and murdered students of the 
former Kamloops Indian Residential School and expressed support for the Penelakut 
Nation and continued reconciliation. 
 Attended a Howe Sound Community Forum regarding working towards designation 
of a Howe Sound Biosphere Reserve. 
 Attended a Regional Planning Committee meeting regarding the Application Fees 
Bylaws. 
 Attended a Lasqueti Island Local Trust Committee meeting. 
 Attended a Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee meeting. 
 Attended a Trust Programs Committee meeting regarding the Islands Trust Policy 
review. 
 Attended a Local Planning Committee meeting. 
 Attended a meeting with the Komoks First Nation regarding disturbance of ancestral 
remains of an indigenous child on Hornby Island. 
 Participated in a Transport Canada two-day oil spill containment exercise in the 
Porlier Pass area.  
 Attended a meeting with Member of Parliament Alistair MacGregor regarding vessel 
anchorages. 
 Attended the Association of Vancouver Island Coastal Communities virtual 2021 
Annual General Meeting and Convention. 
 Attended a Trust Council Governance and Management Review Select Committee 
meeting regarding selection of a consultant to proceed with an Islands Trust 
Governance and Management Review. 
 The Thetis Island Fire Department responded to a brush fire on Thetis Island. 
Trustee Luckham spoke to the wild fire risk and fire prevention. 
 A COVID vaccination clinic will be held on June 16 and 17, 2021 on Thetis Island. 
3.2 Chair's Report 
Chair Patrick reported the next Trust Council will be held electronically on June 9 to 11, 
2021. The delegations and town hall portion of the meetings will be held June 9, 2021 at 
7:00 p.m. and the agenda package is available on the Islands Trust website. Chair Patrick 
expressed support for Trustees responsibility towards the constituency and the 
environment and integrating human issues of justice, race and class into environmental 
values.  
3.3 Electoral Area Director's Report 
 Director Smith acknowledged the lost children and unmarked graves of residential 
students of the former Kamloops Indian Residential School, and expressed support for 
the Penelakut Nation and continued reconciliation. 
She reported the CRD office located at 175 Ingram Street is being renovated following 
flood damage that occurred. There is no update regarding the Thetis Island Internet 
Connectivity grant application and/or the Thetis Island Community Dock grant 
application at this time. 
4. TOWN HALL 
 There were no speakers in the town hall portion of the meeting. 

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5. MINUTES 
5.1 Local Trust Committee Minutes dated April 13, 2021 - for adoption 
By general consent the Local Trust Committee meeting minutes of April 13, 2021 were 
adopted. 
5.2 Section 26 Resolutions-Without-Meeting - none 
5.3 Advisory Planning Commission Minutes - none 
6. BUSINESS ARISING FROM MINUTES 
6.1 Follow-up Action List dated May 25, 2021 
Received.   
TH-2021-017 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee rescind the motion associated with the 
November 24, 2020 resolution to draft a letter to the CVRD regarding the community 
dock and emergency services. 
CARRIED 
TH-2021-018 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee request staff to provide supporting 
documentation regarding the mining operation on Valdes Island. 
CARRIED 
7. APPLICATIONS AND REFERRALS 
7.1 Galiano Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw Nos. 256 and 257 - Referral Request for 
Response 
A bylaw referral form dated April 23, 2021 regarding Galiano Island Local Trust 
Committee Bylaw Nos. 256 and 257 was presented. 
 
TH-2021-019 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee advise the Galiano Island Local Trust 
Committee that its interests are unaffected by Galiano Island Local Trust Committee 
Bylaw Nos. 256 and 257. 
CARRIED 
7.2 Galiano Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 278 - Referral Request for Response 
A bylaw referral form dated March 11, 2021 regarding Galiano Island Local Trust 
Committee Bylaw No. 278 was presented. 
 

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TH-2021-020 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee advise the Galiano Island Local Trust 
Committee that its interests are unaffected by Galiano Island Local Trust Committee 
Bylaw No. 278. 
CARRIED 
8. LOCAL TRUST COMMITTEE PROJECTS 
8.1 Coastal Shoreline Protection Project - Staff Report 
Planner Dubyna presented a staff report dated May 18, 2021 regarding the Thetis Island 
Local Trust Committee – Shoreline and Coastal Protection Strategy Project. 
TH-2021-021 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee amend the Thetis Island Shoreline and 
Coastal Protection Strategy Project Charter, dated June 1, 2021 as follows:  
 Replace the first bullet in the Objectives section as follows: to identify issues, 
challenges and opportunities related to shoreline and coastal protection in 
collaboration with First Nations and community;  
 Add a third bullet to the Objectives section as follows: create a framework and 
definitions respecting “shoreline and coastal protection” as a result of the 
consultation process and other Trust Area projects related to shoreline and coastal 
protection; 
 Add early community engagement and sharing to the In Scope section. 
CARRIED 
TH-2021-022 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee endorse the Thetis Island Shoreline and 
Coastal Protection Strategy Project Charter, dated June 1, 2021 as amended. 
CARRIED 
9. DELEGATIONS - none 
10. CORRESPONDENCE - none 
(Correspondence received concerning current applications or projects is posted to the LTC 
webpage) 
11. NEW BUSINESS- none 
12. REPORTS 
12.1 Trust Conservancy Report - none 
12.2 Applications Report - none 
12.3 Trustee and Local Expense Report - none 
12.4 Adopted Policies and Standing Resolutions 
  Received. 

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12.5 Local Trust Committee Webpage - none 
13. WORK PROGRAM 
13.1 Top Priorities Report dated May 25, 2021 
  Received. 
13.2 Projects List Report dated May 25, 2021 
  Received. 
14. CLOSED MEETING - none 
15. UPCOMING MEETINGS 
15.1 Next Regular Meeting Scheduled for Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 9:30 am - Location to 
be determined 
The next Regular Meeting is scheduled for Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 9:30 a.m., location 
to be determined. Please check the website at http://www.islandstrust.bc.ca/ 
for details regarding this meeting. 
16. ADJOURNMENT 
By general consent the meeting was adjourned at 11:06 a.m. 
 
 
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Laura Patrick, Chair 
 
Certified Correct: 
 
 
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Sarah Shugar, Recorder