Thetis Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, August 3, 2021

[0:00:05] Trustee Patrick: Good morning. If you're just joining us, we're just, we'll start the meeting in just a moment.

[0:00:11] Trustee Patrick: Please stand by. Good morning, Peter.

[0:00:17] Trustee Patrick: We are broadcasting and live streaming.

[0:00:19] Voice 8: Thank you.

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[0:00:23] Trustee Patrick: right. Looks like the system is up and running. So, trustees, you're all right with getting going?

[0:00:30] Trustee Patrick: You bet.

[0:00:31] Trustee Patrick: All right.

[0:00:32] Trustee Patrick: disagree well good morning everyone i'd like to thank you for joining us today and this meeting

[0:00:39] Trustee Patrick: is being recorded and live streamed i want to acknowledge how fortunate we are to be gathering

[0:00:44] Trustee Patrick: today all across the traditional territories of the coast salish peoples for any of you on

[0:00:50] Trustee Patrick: and anyone that's listening today you can't say you don't know about the residential school that

[0:00:56] Trustee Patrick: that existed on Penelakut Island.

[0:00:59] Trustee Patrick: With the truth and reconciliation calls for justice,

[0:01:03] Trustee Patrick: it's for all of us to take time to learn about the legacy

[0:01:07] Trustee Patrick: and understand what the residential schools,

[0:01:10] Trustee Patrick: and I please ask you to take that time.

[0:01:14] Trustee Patrick: And I'll let the local trustees talk about

[0:01:18] Trustee Patrick: the yesterday's festivities there,

[0:01:20] Trustee Patrick: or the festivities is the wrong word, I apologize,

[0:01:24] Trustee Patrick: activities that occurred.

[0:01:26] Trustee Patrick: i'm laura patrick i'm elected on salt spring island and chair of the island uh local uh trust

[0:01:33] Trustee Patrick: committee i'm chaired i'm joined today by trustee doug fenton and trustee peter luckham together we

[0:01:40] Trustee Patrick: make up the thetis island local trust committee uh i believe is lynn smith not going to be joining

[0:01:48] Trustee Patrick: us today she

[0:01:49] Voice 5: she's trying to join she's having some

[0:01:51] Voice 5: difficulty with the zoom link

[0:01:53] Trustee Patrick: okay so director

[0:01:54] Trustee Patrick: Director Lynn Smith of Cowichan Valley Regional District Area G will be hopefully attending us shortly.

[0:02:01] Trustee Patrick: This meeting is an official forum for your local trust committee to make decisions about land use planning matters and discuss relevant business.

[0:02:07] Trustee Patrick: I also want to add that this is a place of employment, despite the fact some of our employees may be coming from their own homes.

[0:02:14] Trustee Patrick: They have the right to a safe and respectful workplace.

[0:02:17] Trustee Patrick: We're grateful for the ability to have this electronic meeting so that we don't have to travel.

[0:02:24] Trustee Patrick: and we'll be returning to the in-person meetings in our next meeting, so we'll talk about that

[0:02:30] Trustee Patrick: later in the agenda. We appreciate your understanding. If we have any technical

[0:02:35] Trustee Patrick: difficulties today, we'll work as quick as we can to overcome those. Everyone's microphones are

[0:02:39] Trustee Patrick: muted, and we'll talk about the town hall in a few minutes and how you can communicate with us.

[0:02:45] Trustee Patrick: We have a number of staff members joining us today. Will Cottingham is here to make this

[0:02:51] Trustee Patrick: this meeting runs smoothly,

[0:02:52] Trustee Patrick: and our office administrator assistant,

[0:02:54] Trustee Patrick: thank you, Will, for being here.

[0:02:56] Trustee Patrick: We have Sarah Sugar, our minute taker.

[0:02:58] Trustee Patrick: Thank you, Sarah.

[0:02:59] Trustee Patrick: Heather Cowher is the regional planning manager.

[0:03:02] Trustee Patrick: Good morning, Heather.

[0:03:03] Trustee Patrick: And Jamie Dabiah is our island planner.

[0:03:06] Trustee Patrick: Good morning, Jamie.

[0:03:08] Trustee Patrick: So, trustees, we have a agenda before us.

[0:03:11] Trustee Patrick: Are there any additions or changes

[0:03:13] Trustee Patrick: that need to be made to the agenda?

[0:03:18] Voice 8: Nothing here.

[0:03:20] Trustee Patrick: Nothing from

[0:03:21] Trustee Patrick: you, Doug, or?

[0:03:23] Trustee Patrick: okay so can we approve those then through general consent that's fantastic so oops sorry switch

[0:03:32] Trustee Patrick: screens here so that brings us then to our trustee reports who'd like to go first did we just lose

[0:03:42] Trustee Patrick: doug no trustee fenton is still here um peter why don't you go first there sure let

[0:03:50] Trustee Luckham: me just pull up

[0:03:51] Trustee Luckham: my notes here. So our last meeting was back in June. It's surprising how rapidly time

[0:04:05] Trustee Luckham: continues to march on. Of course, we had our regular Trust Council meeting, another electronic

[0:04:16] Trustee Luckham: electronic meeting at the beginning of June to advance regular business and then I participated

[0:04:26] Trustee Luckham: in Laskete Island and Salt Spring Island as their chairs and again we had a second trust

[0:04:39] Trustee Luckham: council meeting in July that we discussed the policy statement initiative.

[0:04:43] Trustee Luckham: Many of our community members here received an anonymous letter or mail out that had a number of inaccuracies portrayed in it.

[0:05:00] Trustee Luckham: It stirred up quite a bit of conversation and certainly a number of people had questions about the content and the nature of it.

[0:05:08] Trustee Luckham: um and indeed that it looked um uh there were lots of questions anyway about it um as a result of

[0:05:16] Trustee Luckham: that um uh the islands trust uh um did do a mail out uh to all of the islands uh to correct those

[0:05:25] Trustee Luckham: facts and and indeed that uh was well received by many uh thetis islanders to uh better understand

[0:05:32] Trustee Luckham: understand what was happening with the talk with this policy statement um I think um that about

[0:05:41] Trustee Luckham: uh covers it from the local perspective here um uh indeed actually I I should actually just make

[0:05:49] Trustee Luckham: my remarks about uh being eternally grateful to live on this coast um uh live as I do in an area

[0:05:59] Trustee Luckham: of Thetis that is a Gary oak ecosystem and it's certainly a pleasure to be here in what is

[0:06:08] Trustee Luckham: ostensibly um um Penelakut and Laax and territory but of course many other nations have traveled

[0:06:17] Trustee Luckham: through this area and conducted traditional activities since the beginning and can't help but

[0:06:28] Trustee Luckham: but recognize that the water shortages, the dryness, the fire risk is significant.

[0:06:35] Trustee Luckham: And it's not just the water that people need for their gardens and their flowers and showers and drinking,

[0:06:43] Trustee Luckham: but it's also a significant impact on the ecosystem, seeing a lot of stressed plants, wildflowers, trees

[0:06:51] Trustee Luckham: that have been really hit hard with the now two heat waves that we've seen come through here.

[0:06:58] Trustee Luckham: And so grateful to be here, living in this community, grateful to be part of a community that works together and helps each other through these very difficult times, including COVID.

[0:07:09] Trustee Luckham: So that's it for my report. Thank you.

[0:07:11] Voice 7: Thank you, Trustee Larkin. Trustee Fenton?

[0:07:20] Trustee Luckham: While we're waiting for Trustee Fenton, I just realized I didn't mention joining in the march yesterday in Chimayness.

[0:07:29] Trustee Luckham: I think, you know, it seemed like a lot of people, 1,500 was the number I heard on the news this morning, and lots of people from all over the Cowichan Valley, Penelope, Cooper Island, of course, and then, of course, many survivors and victims and supporting family members from many other nations up and down the island

[0:07:56] Trustee Luckham: whom family members would have attended that school there so that was a real um solemn uh walk

[0:08:06] Trustee Luckham: through the town of shamanist to uh the waterwheel park i'll leave that now for

[0:08:13] Trustee Luckham: doug if he's yeah there he is there

[0:08:17] Voice 7: you go i

[0:08:18] Trustee Fenton: think peter is a bit of a yeah just one of those things

[0:08:21] Trustee Fenton: all right go ahead um yes uh well i thank you uh peter and i yes i'm humbly grateful to live and

[0:08:30] Trustee Fenton: work um in the traditional lands of lax and the penelope people um and yesterday was a

[0:08:37] Trustee Fenton: i've been in more sort of endearing um acknowledgement of that there was just such

[0:08:44] Trustee Fenton: an amazing opportunity to participate in this important

[0:08:47] Voice 3: and

[0:08:48] Trustee Fenton: i would say historic event that

[0:08:50] Trustee Fenton: took place. I grew up in Chimayness. I graduated from Chimayness High School and so there's been

[0:08:58] Trustee Fenton: a lot of changes in this community since my absence of 30 years plus. But coming back

[0:09:05] Trustee Fenton: and then seeing yesterday Ashley's event come together was very moving. I think the

[0:09:12] Trustee Fenton: the Penelakian nation was amazed at how many people showed up and actually walked with them

[0:09:20] Trustee Fenton: in support of this um they missed you know they marched for the children literally that was the

[0:09:26] Trustee Fenton: importance of bringing the children home and um yeah privileged to be part of it and um

[0:09:35] Trustee Fenton: where I ran into a lot of different people that were on this there was an entire community I was

[0:09:41] Trustee Fenton: out there um so it was really nice to see sort of a new a bridging of the community with Penelakut so

[0:09:49] Trustee Fenton: and their sharing was uh yeah just humbling um I heard the RCMP announced their list tied over

[0:10:00] Trustee Fenton: 2000 so means the numbers are that's pretty amazing to me this is huge but it explains

[0:10:07] Trustee Fenton: why there were so many people hard to hear the the actual ceremonies and things are going on um

[0:10:14] Trustee Fenton: I also, this since our last meeting, I have attended a board meeting with the Island Trust Conservancy.

[0:10:22] Trustee Fenton: I was offered an opportunity to go out with Raincoast Boat Tours to look at a number of smaller islands, but City Island being the prime target, and we went for a walk on an island there.

[0:10:34] Trustee Fenton: later um

[0:10:35] Trustee Fenton: uh the opportunity to uh travel with Carla Funk who was the uh communications now the

[0:10:44] Trustee Fenton: um oh the looking at sort of land you know the actual term for it but anyways it's she's helping

[0:10:56] Trustee Fenton: us find ways that people sort of see um putting the land into the trust to different creative

[0:11:03] Trustee Fenton: of ways of early versus just actually once you've passed on in life um to do it early in our lives

[0:11:10] Trustee Fenton: earlier in our lives and find ways sort of as a planning opportunity as opposed to um just

[0:11:15] Trustee Fenton: the final thing you do with your wills and um so it was a very insightful day from many perspectives

[0:11:23] Trustee Fenton: it was very interesting there's a lot of change within the raincoast sort of um staffing and crew

[0:11:30] Trustee Fenton: um so they're learning a lot they've had a lot of unique opportunities of late to go out and

[0:11:36] Trustee Fenton: actually help and work with the Masonic Nation taking the young people and elders to the islands

[0:11:43] Trustee Fenton: and the most recent sort of acquisitions of late um Sydney being one of them where they can actually

[0:11:49] Trustee Fenton: go on to you know you know and learn in place so there was a great apparent and very humbling

[0:11:55] Trustee Fenton: experience for this young crew uh with rain coast um and for us to hear about it and to actually see

[0:12:02] Trustee Fenton: the lands these um young and future first nations uh people will be looking after and caring for

[0:12:12] Trustee Fenton: going forward was it was a unique opportunity and i'm very grateful to uh manager kate emmings for

[0:12:18] Trustee Fenton: making that happen i also participated in our islands or the trust policy committee into in

[0:12:25] Trustee Fenton: in early July, prior to that other meetings through June,

[0:12:29] Trustee Fenton: I think there was two of them where we were working

[0:12:31] Trustee Fenton: on the policy statement and the amendments

[0:12:35] Trustee Fenton: to the policy statement, which is now basically

[0:12:39] Trustee Fenton: more public consultation and move the actual decision-making

[0:12:42] Trustee Fenton: for first reading into the fall.

[0:12:47] Trustee Fenton: And we'll see where that goes there.

[0:12:50] Trustee Fenton: Locally, I met on two separate occasions

[0:12:56] Trustee Fenton: with our think our local nature conservancy regarding a habitat stewardship program with

[0:13:03] Trustee Fenton: potential of one um there's some positive feedback from um and erickson who's the executive director

[0:13:11] Trustee Fenton: of the she's going to be taking it to the board but looking at what's happening on gabriola and

[0:13:17] Trustee Fenton: has happened in the south of vancouver island to other organizations at the habitat stewardship

[0:13:24] Trustee Fenton: stewardship opportunities for Thetis and we'll have more

[0:13:29] Trustee Fenton: and no more probably by the next meeting.

[0:13:33] Trustee Fenton: The other project that came up across my radar

[0:13:37] Trustee Fenton: on both fronts as a trustee,

[0:13:40] Trustee Fenton: but also as an environmental professional on my other days

[0:13:44] Trustee Fenton: was looking at a community composting project

[0:13:47] Trustee Fenton: and whether that was a reality

[0:13:48] Trustee Fenton: and what those opportunities were on Thetis.

[0:13:52] Trustee Fenton: and there'll be more discussion that we'll bring out in this meeting just

[0:13:57] Trustee Fenton: yeah which hopefully we can move forward in some fashion over the next few months and

[0:14:06] Trustee Fenton: into the fall and we'll it's just sort of an it's a neat idea that hasn't really been

[0:14:12] Trustee Fenton: it's sort of been left to the regional districts and sort of beyond island composting has basically

[0:14:18] Trustee Fenton: have been left to the individuals to what degree of success we don't know but there's been a lot

[0:14:26] Trustee Fenton: of positive feedback from the local surveys that have been done that there would be some support

[0:14:31] Trustee Fenton: for that kind of program or on theta so future conversations will be had i'm sure and i thought

[0:14:41] Trustee Fenton: i'll leave it there thank you for the opportunity well

[0:14:44] Trustee Patrick: thank you trustee fenton i'll just report

[0:14:46] Trustee Patrick: sort of quickly a follow back up on the policy statement which is the federation

[0:14:50] Trustee Patrick: document that has the over general guidelines that apply to the entire trust area

[0:14:57] Trustee Patrick: as you know a draft is circulating and you are welcome to make comments on that draft and

[0:15:04] Trustee Patrick: and address those to islands 2050 at islandstrust.bc.ca the executive committee which both

[0:15:11] Trustee Patrick: both Peter Luckum and I sit on, are working with staff on developing an engagement plan

[0:15:17] Trustee Patrick: that will come before Trust Council in the September 21st to 23rd Trust Council meeting.

[0:15:24] Trustee Patrick: So the executive committee did ask that a third party be brought in to help advise on the

[0:15:28] Trustee Patrick: development of that engagement plan and that it be based on the participatory democracy,

[0:15:33] Trustee Patrick: that the engagement be integral to the next draft of the policy statement, and that recognizing that

[0:15:39] Trustee Patrick: it may need to be different on each of our islands um just to have a few challenges there so um there

[0:15:45] Trustee Patrick: will be more engagement coming and we'll well that will be decided at the trust council meeting

[0:15:49] Trustee Patrick: uh that is coming up and i think that generally is all i'll report at this time so i'd like to

[0:15:56] Trustee Patrick: turn that over to uh area director lynn smith thank

[0:16:01] Voice 1: you very much i appreciate the invitation

[0:16:03] Voice 1: to attend today's meeting.

[0:16:05] Voice 1: I have been able to participate also yesterday

[0:16:11] Voice 1: in the march from in Ximenes.

[0:16:18] Voice 1: It was extremely moving,

[0:16:19] Voice 1: the number of people that were there.

[0:16:21] Voice 1: I appreciated many of the comments from people

[0:16:25] Voice 1: and it was the whole time that we were there

[0:16:31] Voice 1: was very emotional.

[0:16:32] Voice 1: I found myself extremely touched by so many people standing together in their orange shirts

[0:16:40] Voice 1: and looking back and taking a photo of the wave of orange as we marched along was quite

[0:16:49] Voice 1: quite exceptional I do have a couple items that I did send in my report it was a tiny bit late

[0:16:57] Voice 1: Regional Recreation has been, I assume, on the books for years and years and years at the CVRD.

[0:17:05] Voice 1: It's finally moving ahead. Last year or the year before, we made a decision that it would be based

[0:17:11] Voice 1: on usage. They are moving forward this year with data collection from November to March to bring

[0:17:19] Voice 1: forward a referendum in the election in 2022. The usage is collected through three streams. One is

[0:17:32] Voice 1: in person, through registrations, and different group activities. I'm very aware that the islands

[0:17:42] Voice 1: trust areas in Area G are minimal users.

[0:17:47] Voice 1: Matter of fact, with the new Forbes Hall,

[0:17:51] Voice 1: I see that there will be less now.

[0:17:54] Voice 1: And I will be bringing a motion under a director's report forward to ask for

[0:18:00] Voice 1: exclusion from the data collection for the islands trust areas in Area G and

[0:18:06] Voice 1: and the exclusion from the usage funding

[0:18:10] Voice 1: as we move forward to the referendum.

[0:18:13] Voice 1: I have not brought that forward yet

[0:18:15] Voice 1: and I will be bringing that forward in September.

[0:18:18] Voice 1: The Thetis Island Wharf grant application was unsuccessful

[0:18:23] Voice 1: as it was oversubscribed.

[0:18:25] Voice 1: It was a great project.

[0:18:26] Voice 1: It would have been a perfect project really.

[0:18:31] Voice 1: Unfortunately, I'm sure all across Canada

[0:18:33] Voice 1: there were many projects.

[0:18:35] Voice 1: So I will be meeting with the CDRD staff, the Thetis Island Port Commission members in August, now that our Parks and Trails manager is back, and we'll be exploring options and some of the solutions as we move forward.

[0:18:54] Voice 1: I'm excited about the composting project. In March 2020, this is not on my report, but in March 2020, Elizabeth Bond had taken the time to contact the CVRD and the engineering department and the finance department did respond to her in a letter regarding the responsibilities under OMAR.

[0:19:23] Voice 1: And I think that's a bit of a stumbling block, but I'm sure that on Thetis, you'll find a solution how to go around that one in a different direction.

[0:19:32] Voice 1: And that is my report. Thank you.

[0:19:35] Voice 1: Thank you very much, Director Smith.

[0:19:39] Trustee Patrick: Normally, we'd have a town hall now, but I see we don't have any attendees that are registered into this webinar today.

[0:19:49] Trustee Patrick: Your comments and feedback are always welcome.

[0:19:52] Trustee Patrick: your trustees want to hear from you uh will i always forget is it north info what is the

[0:19:59] Trustee Patrick: general email address that could be used as well if you could confirm i'd appreciate it

[0:20:03] Trustee Patrick: they

[0:20:05] Voice 5: can email north info at islandstrust.bc.ca so

[0:20:11] Trustee Patrick: that's short for

[0:20:12] Voice 5: northern information north info

[0:20:15] Trustee Patrick: thank you for confirming that i didn't want to give the wrong email address so please

[0:20:18] Trustee Patrick: uh always reach out with your questions and comments um because you're like i said your

[0:20:23] Trustee Patrick: Your comments are so important to the work that we do,

[0:20:25] Trustee Patrick: and we do want to hear from you.

[0:20:28] Trustee Patrick: So moving on then, we have minutes

[0:20:30] Trustee Patrick: from the June 1st for adoption.

[0:20:33] Trustee Patrick: Are there any additions or corrections

[0:20:35] Trustee Patrick: that need to be made to those minutes?

[0:20:38] Trustee Patrick: Trustee Leckham.

[0:20:41] Trustee Luckham: Yeah, thank you.

[0:20:43] Trustee Luckham: Just maybe add your remarks about communicating

[0:20:47] Trustee Luckham: for members from Thedas Island,

[0:20:50] Trustee Luckham: for the residents and visitors from Thedas Island.

[0:20:54] Trustee Luckham: my door is always open my phone number is available and I'm happy to engage with you

[0:21:01] Trustee Luckham: on any topic at any time so please do just with regards to the minutes I certainly don't want to

[0:21:10] Trustee Luckham: speak for others on this but I note that in at least two places under trustee reports under

[0:21:21] Trustee Luckham: under Doug's and mine, it makes reference to missing and murdered students in a couple

[0:21:33] Trustee Luckham: of places.

[0:21:34] Trustee Luckham: And I don't believe I use that phrase specifically, but may have referenced missing and murdered

[0:21:44] Trustee Luckham: Indigenous women and girls in some of my remarks. But I think that it would be best that those

[0:21:55] Trustee Luckham: incidences, that phrase, which is in the minutes in at least two places, and I have spoken with

[0:22:12] Trustee Luckham: with our intergovernmental liaison

[0:22:16] Trustee Luckham: with respect to that wording.

[0:22:19] Trustee Luckham: And I'm just trying to find it here now.

[0:22:21] Trustee Luckham: I apologize.

[0:22:22] Trustee Luckham: Yeah,

[0:22:23] Trustee Patrick: so it's on page three.

[0:22:25] Trustee Luckham: Oh yeah, I'm looking for the changes.

[0:22:29] Trustee Luckham: So yeah, on page three and four,

[0:22:33] Trustee Luckham: I think of the minutes.

[0:22:36] Trustee Luckham: That that phrase be changed

[0:22:39] Trustee Luckham: to lost children comma unmarked graves of residential students because I think

[0:22:46] Trustee Luckham: that that characterizes that much more appropriately so if that's all right

[0:22:55] Trustee Luckham: those are the only changes I have for the minutes okay

[0:22:59] Trustee Patrick: I'll ask us Sarah did

[0:23:00] Trustee Patrick: you get those recommendations yes

[0:23:05] Voice 2: I've got that thank you I will make that

[0:23:08] Voice 2: that change in the minutes.

[0:23:11] Trustee Patrick: All right.

[0:23:12] Trustee Patrick: Any other-

[0:23:13] Trustee Patrick: Just

[0:23:13] Trustee Luckham: check with Doug that Doug's okay with that

[0:23:16] Trustee Luckham: because of his words.

[0:23:17] Trustee Patrick: I was going to be asking in a second

[0:23:19] Trustee Patrick: if they or you agree to the amended.

[0:23:22] Trustee Patrick: Any other changes or corrections?

[0:23:28] Trustee Patrick: Can we approve the minutes as amended

[0:23:31] Trustee Patrick: through general consent?

[0:23:33] Trustee Patrick: Aye.

[0:23:35] Trustee Patrick: All right, super.

[0:23:36] Trustee Patrick: Thank you very much.

[0:23:38] Trustee Patrick: So moving on, sorry,

[0:23:40] Trustee Patrick: I'll be bouncing back and forth here, saving paper.

[0:23:44] Trustee Patrick: Okay. We have our resolutions without meetings. We just had passed a resolution about the wording

[0:23:49] Trustee Patrick: for the annual report without a meeting. That's here

[0:23:53] Trustee Patrick: for your information. And go on to our

[0:23:57] Trustee Patrick: follow-up action list on page nine. Are there any questions for staff or anything that staff wished

[0:24:02] Trustee Patrick: to bring to attention

[0:24:03] Voice 7: on the follow-up action list? I have nothing. Not seeing any. Is there

[0:24:12] Voice 7: Is there anything,

[0:24:12] Trustee Patrick: Leonard, to buy that you want to discuss or please go ahead.

[0:24:17] Voice 4: Thank you, Chair. I just wanted to report back under, I think it's on the bottom of page nine, regarding the mining operation permit on Valdez.

[0:24:30] Voice 4: So I did contact Jim Dunkley at the Ministry of Mines and he informed me there's no active mine permits on Valdez.

[0:24:37] Voice 4: so he believes um there's the active sandstone quarry on the uh laxon reserve and that potentially

[0:24:48] Voice 4: it could be private landowners that are conducting excavation but yeah i just wanted to report back

[0:24:54] Voice 4: that there is no active permit through the provincial ministry of mines um according to

[0:24:58] Voice 4: jim dunkley so i don't know if you have any other questions and if you want me to look further but

[0:25:05] Voice 4: But yeah, that's it for me.

[0:25:09] Trustee Patrick: All right, thank you.

[0:25:09] Trustee Luckham: Go ahead, Trustee Leckham.

[0:25:11] Trustee Luckham: Well, that's interesting because there was a mining permit.

[0:25:16] Trustee Luckham: And obviously, you know, the reserve lands, the federal jurisdiction, you know, it's obviously First Nations territory.

[0:25:27] Trustee Luckham: territory. And I don't know where the lines are there with the mining requirements that are

[0:25:37] Trustee Luckham: required elsewhere. But if there is no mining permit, then presumably the original permit that

[0:25:44] Trustee Luckham: they had has lapsed. And it's certainly a private contractor that is doing that quarry work.

[0:25:52] Trustee Luckham: and I think I'm not so much concerned about the actual activity, I don't want to hinder

[0:25:59] Trustee Luckham: that economic opportunity for the Laiakshan Nation to do that work. The question came up

[0:26:06] Trustee Luckham: about the disturbance of raptor habitat and other wildlife with respect to the blasting.

[0:26:12] Trustee Luckham: So, I thank you for contacting them. I think what would my perhaps intent was for us to be able to review what the old permit now looked like because I, with the change of the website, I've been unable to actually find that effectively.

[0:26:34] Trustee Luckham: And I thought you might be able to find that old permit easier than I could, just for reference to come to some understanding about what might be a best practice for anybody with respect to blasting operations and raptor and other wildlife habitat.

[0:26:55] Trustee Luckham: time yeah so

[0:26:58] Voice 4: thank you for that clarification um i'm happy to reach out again to him and see if i

[0:27:04] Voice 4: can get a hold of the old permit um that's i have a pretty open kind of relationship with him from

[0:27:11] Voice 4: previous applications so i'm happy to do that and see if i can dig some further so yeah thank you

[0:27:17] Voice 4: for that clarification yeah

[0:27:18] Trustee Luckham: it may also be we probably have a copy of it because it indeed

[0:27:22] Trustee Luckham: came before the local trust committee yeah

[0:27:24] Voice 3: 20

[0:27:25] Trustee Luckham: uh oh what are we at 2021 so probably would have been

[0:27:30] Trustee Luckham: about 2015 16 17 somewhere in there um and um yeah so okay thank you yeah

[0:27:42] Trustee Patrick: any other questions

[0:27:43] Trustee Patrick: that on the follow-up action let's go ahead trustee fenton i

[0:27:46] Trustee Fenton: just uh comment on um this

[0:27:48] Trustee Fenton: finding permit to say you know there should be a environmental management plan that's submitted

[0:27:52] Trustee Fenton: it attached like part of that right and then the timing window or that is regarding the

[0:27:59] Trustee Fenton: um sensitive ecosystem issues and um they're all sort of part and parcel of their standardized

[0:28:10] Trustee Fenton: application so yeah should be something you can put a finger on yeah

[0:28:18] Trustee Luckham: and it's worth noting

[0:28:19] Trustee Luckham: actually that um that that blasting activity appears to have ceased um so it may be that

[0:28:27] Trustee Luckham: it's not um of an import or they've taken some other actions there well thank

[0:28:35] Trustee Patrick: you with uh no

[0:28:37] Trustee Patrick: further questions on the follow-up action list we'll go on there's a 7.1 on the agenda is a

[0:28:42] Trustee Patrick: galliano island local trust committee bylaw number 280 for a request of a referral response

[0:28:48] Trustee Patrick: who will give that report or hi jamie i

[0:28:59] Voice 4: can speak briefly about this one okay thank you

[0:29:02] Voice 4: um so this

[0:29:03] Voice 4: is just a um a rezoning for um an affordable housing project on galliano so it was uh i think

[0:29:12] Voice 4: it was a previous application that um for a strata and then that changed so now it's um to increase

[0:29:19] Voice 4: of density from $1 to $20 and there's a housing agreement pending so this is just reaching out to

[0:29:30] Voice 4: LTC for any comments all

[0:29:34] Trustee Patrick: right trustees there's the release or the referral response form is on

[0:29:39] Trustee Patrick: page 13. is there any discussion or any yeah

[0:29:46] Voice 9: you

[0:29:49] Trustee Luckham: know it's for information you know

[0:29:54] Trustee Luckham: You know, it's a fairly substantial rezoning of a lot of

[0:30:00] Trustee Luckham: large piece of property on Galliano. It's interesting when the referral response is

[0:30:09] Trustee Luckham: are our interests affected? And certainly they're not directly affected. However, I think we can't

[0:30:18] Trustee Luckham: not recognize that all development on Thetis, on Salt Spring, on Denman, Hornby, Gambier,

[0:30:26] Trustee Luckham: all affects the entire Salish Sea and we just need to be cognizant of that and I have full

[0:30:35] Trustee Luckham: respect for the Galliano LTC and the work that they're doing and I will say that ostensibly our

[0:30:42] Trustee Luckham: interests at that micro level is not affected however more broadly it might be but at this

[0:30:50] Trustee Luckham: moment we don't have the ability or plan more broadly to affect those kinds of uh macro level

[0:30:57] Trustee Luckham: changes on individual islands but i think our interests were unaffected i'd be happy to make

[0:31:02] Trustee Luckham: that motion go

[0:31:05] Voice 7: ahead trustee i would

[0:31:08] Trustee Fenton: just only i would think what the cumulative effects should be

[0:31:12] Trustee Fenton: something to be noted that is mindful of maybe the cumulative effects of this type of project i have

[0:31:19] Trustee Fenton: a good respect or a lot of respect for uh the uh galliano ltc in their um you know their oversight

[0:31:27] Trustee Fenton: on that side of it but it's um and also i also respect that they're understand their lack of

[0:31:34] Trustee Fenton: housing like if they were on their struggle with trying to get um local opportunities for people to

[0:31:42] Trustee Fenton: live and work so they can live and work on island so that's obviously something they're trying to

[0:31:47] Trustee Fenton: manage, but if they are cognizant of that human effect at a regional scale, then it's okay by me.

[0:32:00] Trustee Patrick: I just want to make us also think of the flip side. When we have a compact development

[0:32:08] Trustee Patrick: compared to spreading 20 units over 100 acres, what is the comparison of impact? So I think we

[0:32:15] Trustee Patrick: We have to recognize that multifamily properly designed

[0:32:19] Trustee Patrick: compact housing helps preserve and protect

[0:32:23] Trustee Patrick: the rural character of our islands.

[0:32:26] Trustee Fenton: I support that chair.

[0:32:28] Trustee Fenton: I think that that's what those mindful considerations are.

[0:32:32] Trustee Fenton: I think it's how they go about that.

[0:32:34] Trustee Fenton: We don't have a regional approach yet

[0:32:36] Trustee Fenton: for that kind of thing.

[0:32:38] Trustee Fenton: So we'll have to leave it with them,

[0:32:40] Trustee Fenton: but yes, I'm sure there.

[0:32:41] Trustee Fenton: that's a good point and support the motion.

[0:32:46] Trustee Patrick: Okay who would like to make a motion then?

[0:32:50] Trustee Patrick: Well

[0:32:51] Trustee Luckham: I'll make a motion and maybe I'll just capture a couple of thoughts and that's all

[0:32:55] Trustee Luckham: right with the LTC. I'll move that the Theta Silent Local Trust Committee advise the Galliano LTC

[0:33:04] Trustee Luckham: see that its direct interests are not impacted by the development. However, we are cognizant of

[0:33:15] Trustee Luckham: the cumulative impacts and respectful of the need for creating compact, low-impact

[0:33:26] Trustee Luckham: housing on the islands. That's it.

[0:33:34] Trustee Patrick: Okay, before that's seconded, I'll let Sarah

[0:33:37] Trustee Patrick: Sarah Sugar, read that back.

[0:33:45] Voice 2: Thank you, Chair.

[0:33:46] Voice 2: I'm ready to read that back now.

[0:33:48] Voice 2: Proceed.

[0:33:48] Voice 2: Okay.

[0:33:50] Voice 2: That the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee

[0:33:52] Voice 2: advised the Galliano Island Local Trust Committee

[0:33:55] Voice 2: that its direct interests are unaffected

[0:33:58] Voice 2: by Galliano Island Local Trust Committee

[0:34:00] Voice 2: bylaw number 280.

[0:34:02] Voice 2: However, the LTC is cognizant of the accumulative impacts

[0:34:07] Voice 2: and is respectful of the need to create low impact housing

[0:34:11] Voice 2: on the islands.

[0:34:17] Trustee Patrick: um did you there was some word that was missing there just low impact housing

[0:34:25] Trustee Luckham: i'm sorry

[0:34:26] Trustee Luckham: yeah i was trying to spin off of what you said there laura patrick

[0:34:28] Trustee Luckham: well

[0:34:29] Trustee Patrick: it was comp i think it's a compact uh housing what was the word you sorry

[0:34:38] Voice 7: yeah

[0:34:39] Trustee Patrick: high high density low impact or um yeah high

[0:34:45] Trustee Patrick: density low impact housing yeah

[0:34:47] Trustee Luckham: okay i'd be happy

[0:34:48] Trustee Luckham: I

[0:34:49] Trustee Patrick: think we have to, we just have to be careful of how it can be taken out of so much being taken out of context these days.

[0:34:57] Voice 8: Thank you for that clarity.

[0:34:59] Trustee Patrick: All right, is there a second to that motion?

[0:35:03] Trustee Patrick: Seconded by trustee Fenton, is there any further discussion call the vote, then all those in favor and that's carried.

[0:35:14] Trustee Patrick: Okay, thank you.

[0:35:18] Trustee Patrick: all right so the next is we have um our discussion on 8.1 on page 14 of the agenda package which is

[0:35:25] Trustee Patrick: shoreline and coastal protection strategy project staff report and again planner dubai thank you

[0:35:33] Voice 4: chair um so this is a brief staff report that presents a draft outline for discussion paper

[0:35:40] Voice 4: for the ltc's shoreline and coastal protection strategy project um the purpose of the discussion

[0:35:47] Voice 4: session paper is to provide a baseline of existing Islands Trustwide and Thetis Island policies and

[0:35:52] Voice 4: regulations that are relevant to shoreline and coastal protection to identify important natural

[0:35:58] Voice 4: areas and heritage and cultural values and threats to those areas on and around Thetis

[0:36:05] Voice 4: and to provide an overview of potential options for shoreline and coastal protection strategies

[0:36:11] Voice 4: to advance the project staff are recommending the draft outline be endorsed by the LTC and then

[0:36:16] Voice 4: then work may begin on the paper.

[0:36:20] Voice 4: Staff have discussed initiating early engagement

[0:36:23] Voice 4: with Penelakut Tribe and LACs in First Nation

[0:36:26] Voice 4: with the Senior Intergovernmental Policy Advisor,

[0:36:30] Voice 4: Lisa Wilcox, but have held off on reaching out

[0:36:34] Voice 4: at this time in respect of this time of morning.

[0:36:40] Voice 4: And we'll wait to speak with Lisa

[0:36:43] Voice 4: uh about reaching out at an appropriate time um and staff have attached the endorsed and amended

[0:36:50] Voice 4: project charter um on page 17 of this of the agenda um and that's it for now i can take any

[0:36:59] Voice 4: questions all

[0:37:02] Voice 7: right trustees questions comments for this project we'd like to go first i'm gonna

[0:37:17] Voice 9: to let trustee okay

[0:37:18] Trustee Patrick: go ahead trustee there's

[0:37:20] Voice 9: mike on yeah nope

[0:37:24] Trustee Patrick: you're still muted uh trustee fenton

[0:37:26] Trustee Patrick: uh

[0:37:27] Trustee Fenton: ariel i better okay yes um the question about format for feedback is um

[0:37:35] Trustee Fenton: should there's sort of a bunch of little bulleted things you forwarded um to the planners for

[0:37:42] Trustee Fenton: consideration um more things that we should be do they need to be minted in today's discussion

[0:37:49] Trustee Fenton: question how what's the best way to communicate well

[0:37:58] Trustee Patrick: i think i would say right now if you've got

[0:38:00] Trustee Patrick: specific suggestions or things that that should be addressed uh now okay

[0:38:10] Trustee Fenton: um all right well i just um

[0:38:13] Trustee Fenton: i want to say thank you for pulling this together you've done a job as sort of capturing in my

[0:38:19] Trustee Fenton: sense but it's a large broad project but i think it needs to be quite you know overarching and

[0:38:26] Trustee Fenton: in scope so that we can um capture what we need and you know sort of consider things in a new light

[0:38:33] Trustee Fenton: um so um i would say in the back of it the um starting at the background on your on the charter

[0:38:42] Trustee Fenton: um under uh in the first paragraph on the background yeah should there be a list of human

[0:38:50] Trustee Fenton: con or uh the current human activities and you know cumulative impacts so i'll page i guess

[0:38:57] Trustee Fenton: 17 or yeah inclusive uh you know the currents are recreational business enterprises uh future blue

[0:39:12] Trustee Fenton: economies etc once again to get us thinking or to capture the notion of these not in detail but just

[0:39:21] Trustee Fenton: once again a high level of the

[0:39:25] Voice 7: current activity uh

[0:39:34] Voice 4: through the chair may i ask a question i just

[0:39:37] Voice 4: I

[0:39:37] Voice 3: just want to confirm

[0:39:37] Voice 4: from Trustee Fenton,

[0:39:38] Voice 4: are you looking at the project charter

[0:39:40] Voice 4: or the actual discussion paper draft outline?

[0:39:43] Voice 4: I just want to confirm.

[0:39:44] Trustee Fenton: Yeah, the 17, the top of the background on your-

[0:39:47] Trustee Fenton: Okay,

[0:39:47] Voice 4: just want to make sure.

[0:39:48] Trustee Fenton: Yeah.

[0:39:54] Trustee Patrick: So are you asking that collecting information

[0:39:59] Trustee Patrick: of local knowledge, again, I don't know the interest,

[0:40:02] Trustee Patrick: but you're also talking about current

[0:40:03] Trustee Patrick: and potential future uses, is that what you're saying?

[0:40:08] Trustee Patrick: Yes.

[0:40:09] Trustee Patrick: yeah

[0:40:13] Trustee Luckham: if i might remark there for discussion um um it seems to me that the background is very broad

[0:40:23] Trustee Luckham: and i'm actually content with the way that it is and that perhaps those details doug might be picked

[0:40:30] Trustee Luckham: up somewhere in scope or objective wise or even in the um discussion paper itself in one of the

[0:40:38] Trustee Luckham: sections later but cognizant of not wanting to put too much specifics in the background

[0:40:45] Trustee Luckham: as well as just the formatting and size and shape of the charter itself yeah certainly I would

[0:40:54] Trustee Luckham: expect that we would embrace those ideas but that said I need now I've kind of read through that

[0:41:01] Trustee Luckham: section I'd need to hear what it was that you wanted to include if you thought that it needed

[0:41:06] Trustee Luckham: needed to be specifically in the background which is pretty broad setting

[0:41:12] Trustee Fenton: the baseline for what

[0:41:13] Trustee Fenton: what exists i'm

[0:41:17] Trustee Patrick: wondering if if you look at in terms of on page 19 on the summary if we think

[0:41:22] Trustee Patrick: under item number two which is thetis island shoreline it has natural assets heritage and

[0:41:28] Trustee Patrick: cultural values and threats so maybe it's a subsection in there that would be current

[0:41:33] Trustee Patrick: current and future uses yeah

[0:41:37] Voice 7: because

[0:41:38] Trustee Patrick: that's where you're you're getting on is there aquaculture is

[0:41:41] Trustee Patrick: there docks is there you know what are the

[0:41:44] Trustee Fenton: things yeah and then this is where we could potentially

[0:41:48] Trustee Fenton: be going that we know of but we need to be mindful of because that you know once again not thinking

[0:41:54] Trustee Fenton: this and sort of a two-year or four-year window but in a 10 or 7 year window so

[0:42:04] Trustee Luckham: yeah i would

[0:42:05] Trustee Luckham: I would support Trustee Patrick's suggestion there,

[0:42:07] Trustee Luckham: or Chair Patrick, section 2.4,

[0:42:10] Trustee Luckham: that would say current and future uses.

[0:42:13] Trustee Luckham: And I already made some comments on the threat section

[0:42:17] Trustee Luckham: that may be touched on that too, but yeah.

[0:42:20] Trustee Luckham: Thanks, Doug.

[0:42:22] Trustee Fenton: Okay.

[0:42:23] Trustee Fenton: Well, do we want to stay in 2.4 or 2.3 right now?

[0:42:28] Trustee Fenton: While we're in that natural section two,

[0:42:31] Trustee Fenton: the other thing I was looking at with my bullet

[0:42:35] Trustee Fenton: it was going to be uh an additional bullet they're saying um upland ecosystems at risk

[0:42:41] Trustee Fenton: and willing and that will directly impact or indirect i should say indirect the health

[0:42:47] Trustee Fenton: and sustainability of the coastal marine shoreline um as a bullet under threats

[0:42:55] Trustee Fenton: 2.3 okay

[0:43:01] Trustee Luckham: so you're saying another bullet there doug and yes can you say that one more time

[0:43:07] Trustee Fenton: and upland ecosystems at risk and um if impacted will impact the health and sustainability

[0:43:16] Trustee Fenton: of the coast or coastal marine shoreline trying to link what happens uphill

[0:43:26] Trustee Luckham: right and it sounds like duncan has something to say in the background there yeah he wants

[0:43:30] Trustee Fenton: breakfast but he won't eat it without me that's my issue not yours

[0:43:46] Trustee Luckham: I'm just wondering chair, while Doug looks after Duncan there, how you perceive tracking

[0:43:53] Trustee Luckham: the potential changes because I'm looking at ideas that I have and I'm thinking allow

[0:43:58] Trustee Luckham: Doug to go through it and Dubiana would, Jamie will collect those and then I might add mine

[0:44:06] Trustee Luckham: and ultimately we'd see it finished.

[0:44:07] Trustee Luckham: yeah

[0:44:08] Trustee Patrick: i think i'm looking to staff to track the comments and that they would seek clarity if they

[0:44:12] Trustee Patrick: are unclear of what they're hearing and then we'd look at staff of saying do we need a resolution to

[0:44:18] Trustee Patrick: on any of these directions or if they're just uh you know shared comments to them sure okay

[0:44:26] Trustee Patrick: thank you so

[0:44:28] Voice 4: yeah so i i'm just keeping track of your additions and that's fine i don't think

[0:44:33] Voice 4: the resolution needs to occur for each chain or addition or change uh but then looking at the

[0:44:39] Voice 4: recommendation like the resolution you could slap on it as amended that's as easy as that

[0:44:47] Voice 4: as easy as that all

[0:44:51] Trustee Patrick: right doug do you have further comments okay

[0:44:53] Trustee Fenton: yeah the other one was uh under

[0:44:55] Trustee Fenton: objectives on page again 17. um i was just thinking that project scope maybe is a top

[0:45:01] Trustee Fenton: bullet versus moving it to the top is the top bullet versus i'm one of these guys

[0:45:10] Voice 7: that's

[0:45:16] Voice 4: fair sorry so i just want to do you mind just repeating that i just uh had to get to that

[0:45:25] Voice 4: page yeah

[0:45:26] Trustee Fenton: oh sorry but that yeah i know i think it's the second bullet right now it says uh second

[0:45:30] Trustee Fenton: bullet is the frame for the direction scope of the project i just moved that into the top okay okay

[0:45:37] Trustee Fenton: on the in scope on the same i think i um how do we i'm just thinking how do we link the cumulative

[0:45:47] Trustee Fenton: impacts of upline development to the shoreline protection um and the other thought i came out

[0:45:59] Trustee Fenton: was how do we align islands trust conservancy data um and the 10-year um strategic plan uh you know

[0:46:11] Trustee Fenton: that sort of filter um into this scope of work you talk about it later in the but you know it's

[0:46:21] Trustee Fenton: just yeah just wondering whether we need to say there that's part of our

[0:46:27] Trustee Fenton: our data collection or not if we don't need to then that's fine

[0:46:31] Trustee Luckham: yeah that is at 5.3 yeah yes

[0:46:35] Trustee Fenton: but it's just once again this is the summary of what and it's once again i'll leave it

[0:46:42] Trustee Fenton: Mayor Mrakas, To you guys so perhaps

[0:46:46] Voice 4: a friendly amendment would be under that first bullet in scope.

[0:46:51] Voice 4: Mayor Mrakas, To a discussion paper that includes a review of existing islands trust wide and fetus island policies and and regulations and then plans as well initiatives and plans for as Ellen's trust wide, I can.

[0:47:08] Voice 4: Mayor Mrakas, change the wording to.

[0:47:10] Voice 4: include

[0:47:10] Trustee Fenton: that there was existing databases yeah

[0:47:17] Voice 9: i would agree with that okay

[0:47:20] Voice 7: okay

[0:47:27] Trustee Patrick: any other comments trusty fenton okay

[0:47:31] Voice 7: um i got the threat okay

[0:47:46] Trustee Fenton: so yeah on uh on five

[0:47:50] Trustee Fenton: the Island Stress Policy Initiatives and Plans, page 22.

[0:47:59] Trustee Fenton: So beyond guiding principles,

[0:48:03] Trustee Fenton: what tangible tools can be found or created

[0:48:06] Trustee Fenton: that will be available for residents, businesses,

[0:48:10] Trustee Fenton: and or island planners?

[0:48:13] Trustee Fenton: So we've got yet outcome of this project.

[0:48:27] Trustee Fenton: You may have more once the regional planning committees

[0:48:31] Trustee Fenton: maybe shoreline project is done i don't know but what i'm finding right now is it's very hard for

[0:48:38] Trustee Fenton: people to actually digest and you know it's not like they've got a little checklist or something

[0:48:42] Trustee Fenton: they can do um and planners when they're facing that you know people trying to you know work on

[0:48:51] Trustee Fenton: their place or work on a project it's a hard conversation and you can't just sort of bring up

[0:48:57] Trustee Fenton: and i've heard that from a number

[0:48:59] Trustee Fenton: of planners over my time here now and they

[0:49:03] Trustee Fenton: so i think this is something we need to be looking at and once again it may be with the regional

[0:49:10] Trustee Fenton: um approach we'll end up with some of those shake out some of these tools that people can actually

[0:49:15] Trustee Fenton: use um but i think it's an important piece we have to work towards if we don't have them it

[0:49:19] Trustee Fenton: doesn't matter it's what it is it's identifying them and then figure out where they might come

[0:49:23] Trustee Fenton: from or whether we can find them from elsewhere because there are other communities you know

[0:49:28] Trustee Fenton: around beach sound and other areas where there's a lot of active work in this area that we might

[0:49:34] Trustee Fenton: be able to grab and um fill them in make them a tangible tool for us at the end of the day

[0:49:52] Trustee Patrick: thank you trustee luckham yeah

[0:49:56] Trustee Luckham: thank you um i've i've printed this out and i've made some

[0:50:02] Trustee Luckham: remarks i'm just going to go through the section at a time um i didn't want to lose the uh idea

[0:50:10] Trustee Luckham: that um however i didn't want i don't want to lose the um idea that doug brought forward about

[0:50:16] Trustee Luckham: about cumulative impacts and whether or not

[0:50:19] Trustee Luckham: that should be a bullet on the in-scope.

[0:50:23] Trustee Luckham: But I also can see that some of my remarks down below

[0:50:26] Trustee Luckham: might actually hint that we should be considering that.

[0:50:31] Trustee Luckham: So I'd be interested in the planners comment there

[0:50:36] Trustee Luckham: just to follow up on that one from Doug

[0:50:37] Trustee Luckham: before I get into my own on the cumulative impact

[0:50:40] Trustee Luckham: as something in some fashion flagged in the in-scope work.

[0:50:47] Trustee Luckham: so

[0:50:52] Voice 4: okay um i'm just reading through no hurry that i'm aware of so okay so

[0:51:03] Voice 4: you wanted to add an additional in scope point or do you want to include that's what i'm thinking

[0:51:10] Voice 4: just so that we've

[0:51:11] Trustee Luckham: captured it um that to um assess cumulative impacts through

[0:51:20] Trustee Fenton: the lens of

[0:51:22] Trustee Fenton: of climate change as well, adaptation, right?

[0:51:26] Trustee Fenton: So that's-

[0:51:26] Trustee Luckham: Yeah, and I'm gonna bring that up later as well, yeah.

[0:51:33] Trustee Luckham: So let's leave that with you

[0:51:35] Trustee Luckham: and I just wanted to be clear on that.

[0:51:38] Trustee Luckham: So I can't, part of, some of my remarks on this

[0:51:43] Trustee Luckham: are for our own interest, but also for the public's,

[0:51:46] Trustee Luckham: to help with the public understanding of what we're doing

[0:51:49] Trustee Luckham: and recognizing that this is a multi-phase,

[0:51:52] Trustee Luckham: multi-year project.

[0:51:54] Trustee Luckham: And do wonder whether or not the first item is whether or not the title of this project,

[0:51:59] Trustee Luckham: Theta-Saturn Shoreline Coastal Protection Strategy Project Charter Version 1,

[0:52:04] Trustee Luckham: may be actually as descriptive of what this, what I think is phase one.

[0:52:09] Trustee Luckham: And you've sort of said that somewhere else in the document about the next phase of the project.

[0:52:15] Trustee Luckham: I wonder whether this shouldn't be actually, and the objective here is to create a discussion paper,

[0:52:21] Trustee Luckham: and whether or not the title of this project

[0:52:23] Trustee Luckham: shouldn't be something along that line

[0:52:25] Trustee Luckham: that is coastal protection phase one discussion paper,

[0:52:29] Trustee Luckham: charter version one, rather than strategy project,

[0:52:33] Trustee Luckham: but just to make it more accessible for folks.

[0:52:38] Trustee Luckham: And I'll just leave that for your consideration,

[0:52:41] Trustee Luckham: I think probably, and if there's consensus on it,

[0:52:47] Trustee Luckham: then that would be great.

[0:52:47] Trustee Luckham: um on the so i'll move along unless there was a question on the out of scope part it says

[0:52:56] Trustee Luckham: a full review of unrelated ocp policies and lup lub regulations and certainly i am in favor of

[0:53:05] Trustee Luckham: not expanding the scope but i do wonder and i comment on it later um about the anomaly with

[0:53:13] Trustee Luckham: With the mapping of the zones of the aquaculture-related activity, and I don't remember, Jamie, if you were involved in that conversation,

[0:53:26] Trustee Luckham: when that aquaculture lease came in for approval with the LTC, there was a little triangle out in the middle of the ocean there that actually has no zoning

[0:53:36] Trustee Luckham: because the associated islands cover it and the thetis island cover it and there's a little

[0:53:40] Trustee Luckham: triangle out there that in theory somebody could build a very small agriculture operation

[0:53:47] Trustee Luckham: in there without any regulation right and

[0:53:51] Trustee Luckham: um do you see considering fixing that as part of the

[0:53:57] Trustee Luckham: relevant to this project so

[0:54:00] Voice 4: yeah so through the chair so that's this is uh i'm not i you know i'm

[0:54:04] Voice 4: not super familiar with the aquaculture application you know that came through so um an area not being

[0:54:10] Voice 4: zoned um you know perhaps that could be added to this project um i'd have to think about how to

[0:54:19] Voice 4: slip that in there i mean it could just be in the in scope uh you know i'm not familiar with the

[0:54:23] Voice 4: exact area that's not zoned so um well and many

[0:54:28] Trustee Luckham: all of us missed that all of us missed that when

[0:54:30] Trustee Luckham: the associated islands and the Thetis Island zonings were created and what happened is when

[0:54:38] Trustee Luckham: you enlarge the map you see there's a little triangle that is surrounded by zoning and it

[0:54:44] Trustee Luckham: is not zoned and so somehow we need to push that out a little bit so just want to flag that is that

[0:54:50] Trustee Luckham: I and I think what I'm hearing from you is is potentially that might be something that could

[0:54:56] Trustee Luckham: be fixed and maybe regional planning manager might want to chime in but i'll just leave that and

[0:55:01] Trustee Luckham: we'll see how it comes um so one final remark on the um charter itself is i can't help but see that

[0:55:11] Trustee Luckham: there's no funding been set aside for uh fetus island community uh engagement and whether there

[0:55:19] Trustee Luckham: perhaps shouldn't be um because even if we wanted to do a bit of a mail out or something there is

[0:55:25] Trustee Luckham: some costs associated with that um and perhaps book in the hall um sometime in the future for

[0:55:32] Trustee Luckham: a public event and so there would be some costs and i wouldn't want to um find that well we can't

[0:55:38] Trustee Luckham: do that because we don't have funding so i wonder whether or not there shouldn't be some money put

[0:55:42] Trustee Luckham: into that portion of the budget somehow that

[0:55:46] Voice 4: makes absolute sense to me okay

[0:55:48] Trustee Luckham: yeah so i might suggest

[0:55:50] Trustee Luckham: that maybe it's 500 bucks or something but that may be a lot

[0:55:53] Voice 3: but

[0:55:54] Trustee Luckham: i always i always work in round

[0:55:56] Trustee Luckham: numbers and happy to save money okay

[0:55:58] Voice 3: so

[0:55:59] Trustee Luckham: that does it for my charter doug oh sorry chair over to you

[0:56:05] Trustee Patrick: um on

[0:56:06] Trustee Luckham: just the charter

[0:56:06] Trustee Patrick: or do you have more comments on the i

[0:56:08] Trustee Luckham: have more i have more comments

[0:56:09] Trustee Luckham: oh

[0:56:10] Trustee Patrick: so yeah before i

[0:56:11] Trustee Luckham: leave the charter um based upon what planner dubiana said and the reality

[0:56:19] Trustee Luckham: of wanting to respect not only this time of mourning but coming out of the pandemic

[0:56:24] Trustee Luckham: um i think it i wonder if it would be appropriate and respectful of everybody to actually suggest

[0:56:32] Trustee Luckham: that the timeline be pushed um into the spring of 2022 rather than uh thinking that we're on

[0:56:40] Trustee Luckham: not conscious of the of the realities at the moment and let's just set that anticipation

[0:56:46] Trustee Luckham: that this is spread that timeline out to phase two of the projects in this in the spring of

[0:56:55] Trustee Luckham: it says draft project charter to LTC for consideration I would like to see that come

[0:57:01] Trustee Luckham: in the spring so that perhaps we could have some fall in-person opportunities on this

[0:57:07] Trustee Luckham: so there's a suggestion and then that does it for the charter

[0:57:15] Trustee Patrick: Why don't you just proceed with your questions. I have comments but they're more general and

[0:57:20] Trustee Patrick: crossover so go ahead.

[0:57:22] Trustee Patrick: Thank you.

[0:57:23] Trustee Luckham: So then this is really great and I'm really very pleased to see this framework

[0:57:30] Trustee Luckham: and I'm assuming and prepared to believe at this point is that you're going to take what

[0:57:36] Trustee Luckham: you hear today and maybe fill in some of the blanks and some of the areas where all you've

[0:57:42] Trustee Luckham: got as a bulleted heading and that'll get flushed out and there'll be a draft that we'll look at

[0:57:48] Trustee Luckham: and then we'll be able to flush that out more in order to really create a full-bodied document that

[0:57:56] Trustee Luckham: community members and First Nations can review and come to understand why it is that the Thetis

[0:58:02] Trustee Luckham: Island LTC has raised this question in our community. So my comments are in that context.

[0:58:09] Trustee Luckham: So I go directly to 2.2, heritage and cultural values.

[0:58:17] Trustee Luckham: I think that where it says on the second bullet there, importance of First Nations perspectives,

[0:58:22] Trustee Luckham: interests of the foreshot of the shoreline.

[0:58:26] Trustee Luckham: I realize that, you know, and it's one of these tricky things about definitions.

[0:58:31] Trustee Luckham: We always try to have definitions.

[0:58:32] Trustee Luckham: So although you've touched on that Cetus Island shoreline, and this is in that section, I

[0:58:38] Trustee Luckham: I think that maybe what should be said there

[0:58:41] Trustee Luckham: is First Nations perspective interests of the shoreline,

[0:58:44] Trustee Luckham: including tidal, intertidal and upland,

[0:58:48] Trustee Luckham: because it's really broad there.

[0:58:51] Trustee Luckham: So I would just add some wording that reiterates

[0:58:54] Trustee Luckham: what you said at the introduction of that section

[0:58:58] Trustee Luckham: in that specifically, so that we're cognizantly,

[0:59:02] Trustee Luckham: so we're recognizing that the interests

[0:59:04] Trustee Luckham: of the First Nations are broad.

[0:59:08] Trustee Luckham: So that's it for 2.2. 2.3 threats under the first bullet, I thought that it should actually say data mapping of existing buildings and structures within the shoreline areas, just to be clear.

[0:59:27] Trustee Luckham: Because if we're mapping, we can only map what's there, not map what might be there in the future. And there are definitely concerns about the future.

[0:59:34] Trustee Luckham: and then I then was happy with the following two bullets but I wanted to add a fourth bullet

[0:59:41] Trustee Luckham: and I wanted to call it hazard areas and in that I wanted to say including

[0:59:49] Trustee Luckham: land slip, surface water drainage and severe weather impacted areas.

[1:00:01] Trustee Luckham: and then, so that'd be comma, comma, comma, I guess, and sea level rise, because that,

[1:00:10] Trustee Luckham: I consider those all hazard areas, and there are some on Thetis that is actually fundamentally

[1:00:17] Trustee Luckham: probably a big part of our concern about shoreline development is because big chunks of the land

[1:00:25] Trustee Luckham: slide into the ocean here on Thetis, and it's not going to get any better. Trees are falling down,

[1:00:30] Trustee Luckham: actually just because it's so dry old old trees just simply falling over so added bullet on hazard

[1:00:38] Trustee Luckham: areas and you may want to frame that even slightly differently than i have so if i go now to policy

[1:00:45] Trustee Luckham: regulatory framework for shoreline protection and strategies um i started making some comments there

[1:00:53] Trustee Luckham: simple ones but wondered whether or not that section actually shouldn't be moved

[1:01:02] Trustee Luckham: to later in the document, because it's kind of a policy and regulatory framework that's associated

[1:01:09] Trustee Luckham: with others as much as anything else on our own limitations. And then maybe if we present the

[1:01:14] Trustee Luckham: strategy and the initiatives and the policies and then follow up with that section. But

[1:01:18] Trustee Luckham: that's a minor point in my mind. What I edited here was considering editing is under 3.1 First

[1:01:26] Trustee Luckham: nations role i find i think that the word role is demean not demeaning but is not possessed

[1:01:33] Trustee Luckham: possessive right and i think we want to recognize that the terror and i've said territorial

[1:01:39] Trustee Luckham: homo cultural and um first nations or territorial cultural interests is what i've said rather than

[1:01:51] Trustee Luckham: just role but you can obviously consider that with the senior policy advisor on what might be the

[1:01:58] Trustee Luckham: right language there, but I didn't really like the word role. And then I went on to with that

[1:02:04] Trustee Luckham: thinking that under 3.2 and 3.3, that I would also get rid of the word role again, and I would

[1:02:10] Trustee Luckham: say responsibilities. Because indeed, the Islanders Trust likes to remind the federal and provincial

[1:02:19] Trustee Luckham: government of their responsibilities for the delivery on the mandate. You could even spell

[1:02:25] Trustee Luckham: spell that out,

[1:02:25] Voice 9: but that would be up to you.

[1:02:29] Trustee Luckham: Islands Trust Authority. Oh, so I just said

[1:02:31] Trustee Luckham: breakout policy areas. So I just said move that down. And I'm coming to the end. I'm really glad

[1:02:41] Trustee Luckham: to see the regional conservation plan in there, the coastal Douglas fir plan in there, as well

[1:02:48] Trustee Luckham: as the regional planning committee shoreline project, because that's important that all the

[1:02:55] Trustee Luckham: The focus here was to try and do justice to the work

[1:03:00] Trustee Luckham: that has been provided to us by other bodies

[1:03:05] Trustee Luckham: within the Islanders Trust to enact this work

[1:03:10] Trustee Luckham: at the local trust committee level and amend bylaws.

[1:03:14] Trustee Luckham: So I'm really happy to see that.

[1:03:17] Trustee Luckham: Section six, Thetis Island official committee plan

[1:03:22] Trustee Luckham: is the first bullet identification analysis

[1:03:25] Trustee Luckham: of relevant Theta Sound OCP policies,

[1:03:27] Trustee Luckham: I wanted to say, comma, omissions,

[1:03:32] Trustee Luckham: relevancy of current policy,

[1:03:37] Voice 9: and maybe

[1:03:43] Trustee Luckham: I said cumulative effector,

[1:03:48] Trustee Luckham: but what I wanna actually just say is climate change.

[1:03:51] Trustee Luckham: So I wanna add those things in identifying

[1:03:55] Trustee Luckham: and analyzing relevant Theta Sound policy,

[1:03:57] Trustee Luckham: policy, identifying where there might be omissions and whether or not existing policies are

[1:04:06] Trustee Luckham: relevant, and climate change as important aspects of that. And that applies to the LUB as well.

[1:04:16] Trustee Luckham: And then I'm assuming that these in Section 7, some of this is going to get flushed out and

[1:04:22] Trustee Luckham: we'll have the opportunity to have a bigger discussion. So that's it for me. Sorry for

[1:04:26] Trustee Luckham: for the extensive list i

[1:04:28] Trustee Patrick: think that's she i think this is the time and uh planning staff want to

[1:04:33] Trustee Patrick: hear from us so no apologies the longer the better um i have a few come uh i'm on just so

[1:04:42] Trustee Patrick: my personality is one i really like to understand things like policy statement and we had you know

[1:04:47] Trustee Patrick: some community pushback on the policy statement so i've been digging deep to understand you know

[1:04:52] Trustee Patrick: what happened and where so some of this relates uh to this um one is as we do our first nations

[1:05:04] Trustee Patrick: engagement i completely respect and understand the parallel nature to the engagement but i think of

[1:05:11] Trustee Patrick: more of a ladder instead of just a parallel track because i think it's important for information to

[1:05:16] Trustee Patrick: to be coming um coming back and that community engagement is being prepared um that language and

[1:05:24] Trustee Patrick: there's there's a number of important aspects that if if we are in our parallel nature helping

[1:05:31] Trustee Patrick: the community to understand so i because i see reconciliation as you know one of one of our

[1:05:36] Trustee Patrick: duties is to sort of help the community along and some of that is through um you know

[1:05:45] Trustee Patrick: either introducing concepts or thoughts early in the process that we don't get the end of a

[1:05:49] Trustee Patrick: parallel process and we go how did we get here you know that both the community is prepared for it

[1:05:54] Trustee Patrick: when we get to the end um and so that leads me to the discussion paper i guess you know i think

[1:06:01] Trustee Patrick: when we started this discussion paper the concept is the discussion paper the audience is us the

[1:06:05] Trustee Patrick: the trustees. And if that is true, then, then that's, that's who it is, but is it also the

[1:06:14] Trustee Patrick: community? And, and how that could be relevant is as, you know, as we go through all the work

[1:06:23] Trustee Patrick: that we're getting at, there is the list of options. And in the paper, you listed a number

[1:06:31] Trustee Patrick: of options i think there could be uh and should be one left open as others question mark because

[1:06:38] Trustee Patrick: i'm hoping through the engagement process that we may find and identify other options that we

[1:06:44] Trustee Patrick: haven't thought of yet so that we're leaving leaving that open but for the options part i

[1:06:51] Trustee Patrick: think if if the audience is also the community then the options piece needs um needs some either

[1:07:00] Trustee Patrick: either pros and cons or some prompting questions.

[1:07:02] Trustee Patrick: Because to me, a success for the discussion paper

[1:07:05] Trustee Patrick: is it's sort of laying the groundwork for the next phase,

[1:07:11] Trustee Patrick: which is now diving in and making choices.

[1:07:14] Trustee Patrick: And so if this paper could be serving as that guide

[1:07:20] Trustee Patrick: to that communication with the community,

[1:07:24] Trustee Patrick: it would go a long way at helping,

[1:07:27] Trustee Patrick: you know, that we're not going, you know,

[1:07:28] Trustee Patrick: we're not losing time.

[1:07:29] Trustee Patrick: we keep we keep going forward uh building on uh this discussion paper um for roles and

[1:07:38] Trustee Patrick: responsibilities i'm wondering if we're missing the regional district in in there um as being

[1:07:45] Trustee Patrick: one of the areas because i think there's we we share with them or they share with us

[1:07:53] Trustee Patrick: the the areas there um and i think that's the sorry i have to read my notes here stop stop stop

[1:08:03] Trustee Patrick: oh others i already had that that was in section seven so i think that's just really my key

[1:08:12] Trustee Patrick: comments is you know what who are we trying to reach and how can you know how can we make this

[1:08:16] Trustee Patrick: work perhaps better and that brings me to the communication that um yeah i agree with the uh

[1:08:24] Trustee Patrick: uh, trustee Luckham that, you know, we, we do need to have some community engagement and make

[1:08:30] Trustee Patrick: sure that that is clear, um, uh, at this point, because I think, like I said, it's, it is a

[1:08:35] Trustee Patrick: building block exercise, um, that we are open to ideas and thoughts, um, and we want to get

[1:08:45] Trustee Patrick: early feedback and start laying those um anyway laying the ground for reconciliation as we're

[1:08:58] Trustee Patrick: as we address it i think that's really all i had for comments anyone else have any further

[1:09:03] Trustee Patrick: comments on this trustee fenton yeah

[1:09:09] Trustee Fenton: i just wrote off um i concur with that i like the notion of a

[1:09:13] Trustee Fenton: ladder it takes us back to the discussion paper itself the first nation's early engagement because

[1:09:18] Trustee Fenton: that that was that point where at the um elder augie sylvester and uh councillor um thomas who

[1:09:31] Trustee Fenton: were on island and would like you know sort of like offered to be part of a sort of an active

[1:09:38] Trustee Fenton: at the ideas level not at the referral level so this is where it's really important that's

[1:09:45] Trustee Fenton: captured there but that's just what you're getting to this is the latter effect both from the

[1:09:49] Trustee Fenton: community those would be opportunities that would help break down those barriers if we were having

[1:09:55] Trustee Fenton: these people back for conversation and then bring in the community you know just open it up people

[1:10:01] Trustee Fenton: around good come down and have a have a walk or have a talk and uh they don't have to overly

[1:10:06] Trustee Fenton: formal but that would just get people to sort of that reconciling action I guess versus just

[1:10:15] Trustee Fenton: following the process and I fully support that and I would like to see that we don't lose sight

[1:10:21] Trustee Fenton: of that once we get into the meat of the document itself. The other thing to keep in mind in our

[1:10:30] Trustee Fenton: our discussions with Trustee Lathcombe, mentioned data,

[1:10:34] Trustee Fenton: and I'm thinking of the unsurveyed aquaculture area,

[1:10:39] Trustee Fenton: or the unsurveyed area on potential aquaculture issues,

[1:10:44] Trustee Fenton: made that we should include the provincial mapping

[1:10:47] Trustee Fenton: on current permits for buoys, docks,

[1:10:50] Trustee Fenton: and aquaculture leases.

[1:10:56] Trustee Fenton: That's, you can get that online,

[1:10:57] Trustee Fenton: and I'm sure you guys can find that and figure that out easily.

[1:11:02] Trustee Fenton: And then that would just be another sort of overlaid

[1:11:04] Trustee Fenton: at what exists and what are our impacts

[1:11:07] Trustee Fenton: or potential impacts down the road,

[1:11:11] Trustee Fenton: especially thinking through the lens of a cumulative impact.

[1:11:17] Trustee Fenton: Trust-wide data, just make sure you're aware

[1:11:21] Trustee Fenton: of the climate change report for Islands Trust Conservancy.

[1:11:26] Trustee Fenton: we did a really good look forward-looking climate change adaptation um report and there's

[1:11:35] Trustee Fenton: thoughts and ideas there that should would link and inform this framework and uh

[1:11:42] Trustee Fenton: is that

[1:11:53] Trustee Patrick: it okay any other comments yeah

[1:11:56] Trustee Luckham: maybe make a couple of final uh thoughts here and thank you

[1:12:01] Trustee Luckham: Thank you, Chair Patrick and Trustee Fenton for your stimulation and further thoughts.

[1:12:09] Trustee Luckham: Certainly that latter approach is appropriate.

[1:12:15] Trustee Luckham: But I think that what I've come to realize here as we're just talking is that I think that the reconciliation obligation

[1:12:25] Trustee Luckham: obligation commitment that we've made at trust council needs to be stated clearly at in the

[1:12:35] Trustee Luckham: introduction actually and that there should be a bullet there that is actually about reconciliation

[1:12:40] Trustee Luckham: so that that's the lens that we're doing this work through and um i reflect and uh planner

[1:12:47] Trustee Luckham: dubiana um whether or not you've actually looked at um some work off from the salt

[1:12:54] Trustee Luckham: Spring Island Local Trust Committee particularly not that it it's a perfect document in any way

[1:13:02] Trustee Luckham: but it's certainly a good document to remind us of the commitments that we've made but the

[1:13:09] Trustee Luckham: Ganges Village Plan and even the housing work that we're doing on Salt Spring both documents

[1:13:19] Trustee Luckham: These documents remind us of the commitment that we made to reconciliation and murdered and missing Indigenous women and girls.

[1:13:31] Trustee Luckham: And so, in this work, we need to always be cognizant of recognizing that commitment that Islands Trust Council has made.

[1:13:44] Trustee Luckham: So I would like to see that in the introduction, because certainly we pick it up later about

[1:13:51] Trustee Luckham: heritage and cultural values, but I think it's absent in the introduction, and that indeed

[1:13:59] Trustee Luckham: our responsibility through the calls for action on truth and reconciliation is that the government

[1:14:07] Trustee Luckham: all take the opportunity to help bring awareness and inform our communities about the necessity of

[1:14:16] Trustee Luckham: this so very important work so I would say let's add that and you might want to look at the work

[1:14:23] Trustee Luckham: in the other LTCs with respect to that but we need to lead with that so those are my remarks

[1:14:30] Trustee Luckham: and would be really excited to see a revised draft of this with everything we've heard today

[1:14:37] Trustee Patrick: all right so there's a recommended motion on page 14. let's

[1:14:46] Voice 3: see you

[1:14:53] Trustee Luckham: want to wing that one

[1:14:54] Trustee Luckham: doug made it go just trying to yeah

[1:14:57] Trustee Luckham: where's page 14. okay yeah

[1:14:59] Trustee Fenton: um are we

[1:15:04] Trustee Fenton: moving that the islands trust concern our local trust committee uh request staff to prepare a

[1:15:10] Trustee Fenton: discussion paper shoreline and coastal protection strategy program and according to the draft

[1:15:17] Trustee Fenton: discussion paper outline um dated to august 3rd 2021 it should be putting um inclusive of our

[1:15:28] Trustee Fenton: feedback today i think that works

[1:15:37] Trustee Patrick: that work all right is there a second um

[1:15:44] Trustee Luckham: so do we need any as

[1:15:46] Trustee Luckham: as amended in there or anything like that,

[1:15:48] Trustee Luckham: or would you take it based on the discussion?

[1:15:50] Trustee Patrick: He just added as inclusive of the,

[1:15:54] Trustee Patrick: I didn't get his words exactly.

[1:15:56] Trustee Patrick: I know Sarah did, sorry,

[1:15:59] Voice 2: you want to read that back?

[1:16:05] Voice 2: Sorry, chair, I'm here.

[1:16:07] Voice 2: I can read that back.

[1:16:10] Voice 2: All right, please do.

[1:16:11] Voice 2: Okay, that the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee

[1:16:13] Voice 2: request staff to prepare a discussion paper

[1:16:15] Voice 2: for the shoreline and coastal protection strategy project

[1:16:18] Voice 2: in accordance with the draft discussion paper

[1:16:20] Voice 2: or outline dated august 3rd 2021 inclusive of the feedback provided at this meeting

[1:16:28] Voice 2: thank you

[1:16:29] Trustee Luckham: at the meeting of uh august the third okay

[1:16:36] Voice 2: inclusive of the feedback at the meeting

[1:16:39] Voice 2: of august third super is there a

[1:16:41] Trustee Patrick: second second seconded by trustee luckham is there any discussion

[1:16:46] Trustee Patrick: if not i'll call the vote all those in favor and that is

[1:16:54] Trustee Patrick: Did you vote, Trustee Luckum, or did I?

[1:16:56] Trustee Patrick: I did,

[1:16:57] Trustee Luckham: I voted in favor.

[1:16:57] Trustee Patrick: Okay, sorry, your hand was just outside your camera

[1:16:59] Trustee Patrick: for a second there, so that carried.

[1:17:02] Trustee Luckham: Yeah, I try not to watch myself on the screen.

[1:17:05] Trustee Luckham: That's right.

[1:17:06] Trustee Luckham: That's one of the foibles of Zoom

[1:17:08] Trustee Luckham: is you never watch yourself.

[1:17:11] Trustee Patrick: Okay, well, thank you very much, Ponder De Baia,

[1:17:14] Trustee Patrick: on bringing this work in,

[1:17:16] Trustee Patrick: and I think this is a good step,

[1:17:17] Trustee Patrick: and again, thanks, trustees.

[1:17:18] Trustee Patrick: I think this is really important, this work,

[1:17:23] Trustee Patrick: and I think, like I said,

[1:17:24] Trustee Patrick: as I looked at the policy statement

[1:17:25] Trustee Patrick: and why we had I think not having that discussion guide to the conversation is highly valuable and

[1:17:32] Trustee Patrick: worthwhile I think our community is uh you know there's a lot to understand these are complex

[1:17:38] Trustee Patrick: issues and I think we can do a better job at laying the foundation for good good community dialogue

[1:17:45] Trustee Patrick: so thank you trustee Luckham uh thank

[1:17:50] Trustee Luckham: you very much you're absolutely right um and and of course

[1:17:54] Trustee Luckham: this is always fluid that's one of the tricks and as we have these important discussions and

[1:17:59] Trustee Luckham: the only opportunity we actually have to have these discussions as a group to determine the

[1:18:04] Trustee Luckham: direction of policy um it um so in that fluid moment and what we've just decided to do it would

[1:18:11] Trustee Luckham: seem obvious to me that the appendixes be expanded to include the declarations account has made

[1:18:18] Trustee Luckham: made and other relevant policies that Thetis Island is part of too.

[1:18:27] Trustee Luckham: So just suggest that.

[1:18:30] Trustee Luckham: Thank you everyone.

[1:18:32] Trustee Patrick: Okay, so moving on.

[1:18:36] Trustee Patrick: Any correspondence that we do receive is always important and posted on our page.

[1:18:43] Trustee Patrick: But the next is we have trust conservancy report here at 12.1 in the Heron newsletter

[1:18:49] Trustee Patrick: letter and seeing that trustee Fenton is on the board,

[1:18:52] Trustee Patrick: I'll give him an opportunity to either highlight anything

[1:18:55] Trustee Patrick: that of importance for trust conservancy.

[1:18:59] Trustee Fenton: The, do you think you've shared this?

[1:19:03] Trustee Fenton: Yeah, it is.

[1:19:04] Trustee Fenton: This note is excellent way and in regards to serve it's,

[1:19:09] Trustee Fenton: it's accurate and it brings you into the Heron,

[1:19:15] Trustee Fenton: which is now part of this,

[1:19:16] Trustee Fenton: um which again is now been refined down to a on basically a less less paper but a more succinct

[1:19:27] Trustee Fenton: document that captures um things on a regular basis so i just really encourage everybody to

[1:19:34] Trustee Fenton: review the heron looking at the notes that were provided by um manager emmings with respect to

[1:19:42] Trustee Fenton: what the activities have been and how they relate to the ongoing accomplishments to date.

[1:19:50] Trustee Fenton: We've had, there's a lot of activities that are really important and these are very fluid

[1:19:59] Trustee Fenton: sort of conservancy efforts at this point in time and there's been some really interesting

[1:20:06] Trustee Fenton: interesting opportunities.

[1:20:08] Trustee Fenton: And the Conservancy has stepped up to the plate

[1:20:13] Trustee Fenton: and is bringing them in and landing them accordingly.

[1:20:18] Trustee Fenton: So it's quite an interesting process

[1:20:20] Trustee Fenton: and it's worth reviewing these updates as they come through.

[1:20:25] Trustee Fenton: And yeah, it's sort of overarching.

[1:20:29] Trustee Fenton: So it's sort of nice, sort of puts these

[1:20:32] Trustee Fenton: among all of the other islands in that regard.

[1:20:35] Trustee Fenton: So it helps us connect.

[1:20:37] Trustee Fenton: looking in a broader picture and i'll leave it there thank you

[1:20:41] Trustee Patrick: well thank you trustee fenton

[1:20:43] Trustee Patrick: for your work on the trust conservancy and uh the heron is looking very professional and very

[1:20:49] Trustee Patrick: informative and uh i really applaud the changes okay so uh moving on we have applications report

[1:20:58] Trustee Patrick: is here on page 34 i think you're interested um we have the trustees oh sorry trustee welcome

[1:21:05] Trustee Patrick: Well

[1:21:07] Trustee Luckham: thank you. I just wanted to take the moment following up on Trustee Fenton in the Heron

[1:21:13] Trustee Luckham: newsletter there in recognizing the tribute to Sarah Steele from Pender Island who was,

[1:21:24] Trustee Luckham: you know, the words can't describe the significance of the work and the commitment,

[1:21:29] Trustee Luckham: a champion for the environment on North Pender and really glad to see that recognition in the

[1:21:35] Trustee Luckham: hearing thank you doug and your team yeah

[1:21:38] Trustee Patrick: thank you okay so we have the policies and standing

[1:21:44] Trustee Patrick: resolutions on page 36 changes at this time and then um we have the top priorities report on page

[1:21:53] Trustee Patrick: 39 oh sorry yes i jumped over the expense report that's uh that is here as well on page 35

[1:21:59] Trustee Patrick: um and then we have the top priorities report on page 39 any changes at this point i think we're

[1:22:09] Trustee Patrick: we're busy trustee fenton so

[1:22:14] Trustee Fenton: this is where i thought i would bring up the notion of the

[1:22:17] Trustee Fenton: community composting um and how this would fit into um our priorities i mean obviously not of

[1:22:27] Trustee Fenton: this meeting but potentially at our next was to consider assuming as soon as we get the official

[1:22:36] Trustee Fenton: sign off priority one will be taken off the list as done once it's recognized by the province

[1:22:46] Trustee Fenton: so with that then it opens up moves everything up a shoreline to our first priority our

[1:22:52] Trustee Fenton: our relationships building with First Nations is number two.

[1:22:58] Trustee Fenton: And what I was wondering if should we put,

[1:23:00] Trustee Fenton: and could we suggest we put a title called

[1:23:04] Trustee Fenton: climate change adaptation,

[1:23:06] Trustee Fenton: which then would leave us a broad sort of basket

[1:23:12] Trustee Fenton: to put things in as sort of more acutely,

[1:23:16] Trustee Fenton: things like composting, which people would say,

[1:23:20] Trustee Fenton: how does that fit into climate change?

[1:23:22] Trustee Fenton: Well, it's adaptation. It's about addressing cumulative impacts over time, changing local behaviors and patterns and policies, breaking down barriers that will allow things like community composting to be effective and not become a threat to our shorelines because, you know, just we have to work systems so that everybody are able to do things.

[1:23:50] Trustee Fenton: And of those who can't have a process that will capture their potentially, and we're moving away from maybe saying waste to potential compostable opportunities on island, reducing our GHGs and our overall impacts, and using those locally as opposed to importing more nutrients.

[1:24:15] Trustee Fenton: So there's a number of opportunities that we could be thinking about under that umbrella.

[1:24:25] Trustee Fenton: I don't know if I'd be open to how that might work for the others.

[1:24:29] Trustee Patrick: Can I ask a couple of questions?

[1:24:32] Trustee Patrick: So the community composting, is there a group or organization that's working on that?

[1:24:36] Trustee Patrick: Or is that something you are leading?

[1:24:39] Trustee Fenton: It's a think.

[1:24:41] Trustee Fenton: So the Thetis Island Nature Conservancy has got a group of students again this year.

[1:24:47] Trustee Fenton: So one of the projects they're taking on is sort of looking at it at that sort of concept level, how that might work.

[1:24:56] Trustee Fenton: There's push from a local farm on islands who are looking to try to formalize their process, become inclusive of a community.

[1:25:06] Trustee Fenton: once it's considered

[1:25:08] Trustee Fenton: a waste stream

[1:25:09] Trustee Fenton: but

[1:25:09] Trustee Fenton: I see this as

[1:25:14] Trustee Fenton: not as a waste but actually keeping

[1:25:16] Trustee Fenton: it out of the waste stream I think

[1:25:18] Trustee Fenton: and trying to find ways

[1:25:20] Trustee Fenton: to manage it locally

[1:25:22] Trustee Fenton: effectively

[1:25:25] Trustee Fenton: so what

[1:25:26] Trustee Fenton: the think team is doing is they're looking

[1:25:28] Trustee Fenton: at all of the different

[1:25:29] Trustee Fenton: all of this

[1:25:33] Trustee Fenton: sort of background information

[1:25:34] Trustee Fenton: and looking at all of the regulations around it,

[1:25:38] Trustee Fenton: and then going to come back with a paper on that,

[1:25:42] Trustee Fenton: making their recommendations or findings.

[1:25:45] Trustee Fenton: And then with that, something that we can actually look at,

[1:25:49] Trustee Fenton: maybe at the next meeting and have some conversation around.

[1:25:53] Trustee Fenton: And there are, you know, just looking for ideas.

[1:25:56] Trustee Fenton: But I was just thinking there may be other things after this,

[1:25:59] Trustee Fenton: energy and other climate chain-based adaptations that might give us sort of an inclusive overarching

[1:26:13] Trustee Fenton: project priority that can be adapted to the day.

[1:26:20] Trustee Patrick: What I was prompting to get was sort of, I think we sometimes forget that one of the

[1:26:26] Trustee Patrick: powers that we have is the coordinating powers.

[1:26:29] Trustee Patrick: and sometimes we may have groups on the island that either don't have means or they've got good

[1:26:35] Trustee Patrick: people but they don't have the money and there's always the reasons why we don't do things and

[1:26:40] Trustee Patrick: sometimes if we can coordinate efforts and bring people together that is something that

[1:26:47] Trustee Patrick: islands trust does have we do have the power to do that so and

[1:26:51] Trustee Fenton: that's what i and that's what i've

[1:26:52] Trustee Fenton: been doing back and that's where i'm sort of heading towards in that regard but think has

[1:26:56] Trustee Fenton: taken on thank you about those sort of logistics and all um yeah good

[1:27:04] Trustee Patrick: um trustee luckham i might

[1:27:09] Trustee Luckham: just remark on that um because indeed the the think uh group theodosial nature conservancy

[1:27:16] Trustee Luckham: is fairly active on this uh topic of community composting um and certainly um our local

[1:27:29] Trustee Luckham: food production is hampered by costs associated with acquiring or building

[1:27:37] Trustee Luckham: soil and obviously composting is an important part of that and my in

[1:27:47] Trustee Luckham: conversations with others my question is is where is it the out that the Allen's

[1:27:53] Trustee Luckham: Trust is either in the way or what is there that we can do to assist and

[1:27:59] Trustee Luckham: and support that in a policy or regulatory framework.

[1:28:02] Trustee Luckham: And I can't help, as you're well aware,

[1:28:05] Trustee Luckham: Trustee Patrick, a bylaw 418 on Salt Spring Island,

[1:28:09] Trustee Luckham: which is the soil removal and deposit bylaw.

[1:28:13] Trustee Luckham: And such an element doesn't exist

[1:28:16] Trustee Luckham: in the Thetis Island LTC suite of bylaws.

[1:28:20] Trustee Luckham: In fact, there are limitations contained in there

[1:28:26] Trustee Luckham: that inadvertently were included.

[1:28:29] Trustee Luckham: when we did our OCPLUB review,

[1:28:31] Trustee Luckham: not recognizing at that time,

[1:28:34] Trustee Luckham: which is, believe it or not, it's more than 10 years ago,

[1:28:37] Trustee Luckham: that that work was done.

[1:28:41] Trustee Luckham: And so I wonder, certainly I respect that Trustee Fenton

[1:28:46] Trustee Luckham: wants to embrace this in some overall strategy.

[1:28:52] Trustee Luckham: However, when I look at the projects list,

[1:28:55] Trustee Luckham: and indeed many of the things that became apparent

[1:28:58] Trustee Luckham: parent in 2011, that is 10 years ago, that needed amendments of our OCP and LEB in order to

[1:29:06] Trustee Luckham: pick up some errors and omissions are still languishing in the inbox. And this is another

[1:29:14] Trustee Luckham: item that could simply be put into the inbox. And who knows when we might get to it, especially

[1:29:19] Trustee Luckham: when there's a real important need for, and I'm picking up on the Salt Spring Ag Alliance

[1:29:24] Trustee Luckham: alliance uh terminology here local food production um all of this sustainable stuff is all great and

[1:29:31] Trustee Luckham: everything but ultimately we need to support local food production and composting is one of those

[1:29:35] Trustee Luckham: things that has been identified as a limitation and there are limitations in our bylaw that

[1:29:40] Trustee Luckham: doesn't necessarily allow it uh the soil removal and deposit bylaw or something of that nature may

[1:29:47] Trustee Luckham: help um achieve that and get the island's trust out of the way of this local food production

[1:29:53] Trustee Luckham: So I wonder whether or not we might want to consider adding that to the project list, but also, you know,

[1:30:00] Trustee Luckham: extent, prioritizing it as something that could actually have significant importance to the

[1:30:06] Trustee Luckham: community going forward. Certainly the local agriculture here has broad community support

[1:30:13] Trustee Luckham: and we want to be able to support it too. So Doug, I don't know how you'd like to

[1:30:23] Trustee Luckham: characterize it, but I would like for something to go on the projects list, which ideally we

[1:30:30] Trustee Luckham: would advance to a top priority sometime in the near future um that and and i look for advice also

[1:30:36] Trustee Luckham: from staff about a soil removal and deposit bylaw for thetis island and that that might be the tool

[1:30:43] Trustee Luckham: that enables us to advance that work i

[1:30:47] Trustee Patrick: was going to say the the north pender is uh has a project

[1:30:50] Trustee Patrick: so they're actively rewriting and making a brand new soil and removal bylaw that is the the latest

[1:30:56] Trustee Patrick: in a greatest approved version so you can either pick your piggyback on what they're doing

[1:31:03] Trustee Luckham: thank you to uh chair patrick excellent yeah i did i was aware of that but didn't embrace that

[1:31:10] Trustee Luckham: is that kind of draft bylaw number at this point or is it still in the discussion still

[1:31:14] Trustee Patrick: i think it's uh part of their wherever it is um it's a you know it's a top priority project so

[1:31:20] Trustee Patrick: i think they just approved the project charter right

[1:31:24] Trustee Luckham: so planner debianna did you have any

[1:31:26] Trustee Luckham: your thoughts on that was that helpful or not yeah

[1:31:31] Voice 4: i mean um as you all are aware we have the

[1:31:35] Voice 4: three top priorities listed there and the rar a rapper we're calling rapper these days uh dpa is

[1:31:41] Voice 4: with the ministry the bylaws so um at some point there will be some movement on the top priority

[1:31:48] Voice 4: list you can add something to the project list specifically in relation to this or find a way

[1:31:53] Voice 4: to incorporate it in any thing under there currently so I don't know if that helps at this

[1:31:59] Voice 4: time I know yeah definitely can't add more work yeah

[1:32:07] Trustee Luckham: at this time

[1:32:07] Voice 3: yeah

[1:32:08] Trustee Luckham: that's why I think it

[1:32:09] Trustee Luckham: should go into the project and maybe be a specific project rather than a huge undertaking which some

[1:32:16] Trustee Luckham: of the others might be anyway I'm going to

[1:32:18] Trustee Luckham: talk back to trustee Fenton about what he thinks he'd

[1:32:21] Trustee Luckham: like to do there well

[1:32:24] Trustee Fenton: i'm open to uh suggestions i you know we're heading in the right direction

[1:32:28] Trustee Fenton: i was just thinking i don't with north pender how did north pender deal with i thought they

[1:32:35] Trustee Fenton: had embraced an overarching climate change or climate change adaptation and into their project

[1:32:45] Trustee Fenton: so a project priority so that they were able to um to look at other things that were not

[1:32:53] Trustee Fenton: embrace more things that are it's not really you know it's another project yes but it's not just

[1:32:59] Trustee Fenton: one tiny project it's more integrated or sort of you know cost they

[1:33:05] Trustee Patrick: did but it's um phase so water

[1:33:08] Trustee Patrick: they have a climate um priority project but the work being done for the water mapping and so forth

[1:33:16] Trustee Patrick: is being done under that climate

[1:33:18] Trustee Fenton: umbrella so same umbrella you could do this kind of a thing where

[1:33:23] Trustee Fenton: you turn around because it would but we'll have other things this week correct but they're they're

[1:33:29] Trustee Patrick: having to do it one step at a time so water was first yeah

[1:33:33] Trustee Fenton: fair enough but in our case it might

[1:33:34] Trustee Fenton: be considering a soil amendment bylaw to accommodate composting you know just uh just

[1:33:42] Trustee Fenton: no

[1:33:42] Trustee Patrick: that's good point um yeah i mean i i'd be supportive i i agree with uh the themes and then

[1:33:53] Trustee Patrick: then you can have points under underneath it because you know you've got amendments to the

[1:33:56] Trustee Patrick: ocp amendments to the lub and then you have some bigger themes that you could have pointed

[1:34:00] Trustee Patrick: projects that are underneath it so climate change and adaptation and then first pull it underneath

[1:34:08] Trustee Patrick: it uh so you know soil and removal or whatever that'll

[1:34:16] Trustee Fenton: be dynamic over time yeah

[1:34:17] Trustee Luckham: so we do have

[1:34:18] Trustee Luckham: um under we do have projects already amendments to the thesis on ocp and lub so if i'm taking

[1:34:26] Trustee Luckham: in the drift of that then that's where we would add it i think that's number one

[1:34:33] Voice 7: um would be

[1:34:41] Trustee Luckham: just a suggestion uh

[1:34:59] Voice 4: through the chair just to comment um i yeah the idea of having it

[1:35:07] Voice 4: be a specific topic that is focused on rather than having the full amendment project you'll see you

[1:35:14] Voice 4: know having either phased or having just a focus on the project on a specific thing is likely to

[1:35:20] Voice 4: move along faster than a broader project so um just wanted to point that out and keep this to

[1:35:26] Voice 4: keep that in mind um yeah so

[1:35:32] Trustee Patrick: what would you recommend to where would we park this conversation

[1:35:37] Voice 4: so i mean yeah so uh if if we're looking at the first project on the project report list

[1:35:43] Voice 4: um so amendments to the thetis ocp and luv that's a very broad project with many topics

[1:35:49] Voice 4: If we're adding climate change adaptation, that's also quite broad. So, you know, there's two ways of doing it, having it as a phased project in there, and then, you know, incrementally working on it, that can take some time.

[1:36:04] Voice 4: I'm doing a larger project where we're looking at all of these items that also could be longer

[1:36:10] Voice 4: and you might, as you move along, might get items added to it.

[1:36:15] Voice 4: So it might make more sense just to do a specific project that is, you know, just focuses on

[1:36:22] Voice 4: the one thing, whether it be a soil and deposit bylaw or, you know, just composting on island,

[1:36:33] Voice 4: that sort of thing.

[1:36:34] Voice 4: a

[1:36:39] Voice 9: new project that is the development of a soil removal and deposit by-law based upon

[1:36:45] Voice 9: Salt Spring and Tender Island work.

[1:36:49] Trustee Patrick: Do you wish to make a motion?

[1:36:52] Trustee Luckham: If Doug says yes then I'll make that a motion. Okay let's make that a motion. I move

[1:36:58] Trustee Luckham: that the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee add to its projects list

[1:37:02] Trustee Luckham: the development of a soil removal and deposit by-law.

[1:37:05] Trustee Luckham: off um um yeah we'll just leave it at that and maybe in the footnote on that uh consider

[1:37:16] Trustee Luckham: salt spring and north fender bylaws okay

[1:37:19] Trustee Patrick: before it's seconded i'll let um um sarah sugar read

[1:37:23] Trustee Patrick: that back thank

[1:37:29] Voice 2: you chair i'll read that back uh that the thetis island local trust committee

[1:37:34] Voice 2: add soil removal and deposit bylaw to the projects list.

[1:37:41] Voice 2: Sorry, add the development of a soil removal

[1:37:44] Voice 2: and deposit bylaw to the projects list.

[1:37:48] Voice 2: And then in notes, I have,

[1:37:51] Voice 2: it was noted for staff to reference

[1:37:55] Voice 2: North Pender Island Local Trust Committee's recent work.

[1:38:00] Voice 2: Sorry, North Pender Island Local Trust Committee

[1:38:02] Voice 2: and Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee's

[1:38:04] Voice 2: recent work on soil removal bylaw projects all

[1:38:10] Trustee Patrick: right thank you all right is there a second to

[1:38:12] Trustee Patrick: that motion seconded by trustee fenton any discussion i'd

[1:38:19] Trustee Luckham: just like to maybe note um

[1:38:23] Trustee Luckham: because i don't think we can undertake this kind of work without recognizing and there's a an

[1:38:30] Trustee Luckham: an added necessity, I think, to consider soil removal and deposit is because invasive species

[1:38:38] Trustee Luckham: are spread around the island because there's a lack of regulation on soil removal and deposit,

[1:38:47] Trustee Luckham: and it comes from off island as much as it comes from on island. So there's more than one

[1:38:55] Trustee Luckham: need for that. And that is very worrisome when you see some of these invasive species

[1:39:00] Trustee Luckham: just completely taken over by the innocent action of a landowner. That's it. And absolutely

[1:39:09] Trustee Luckham: cognizant of the projects on our list that are 10 years old. So thank you for the support.

[1:39:16] Trustee Patrick: Any other discussion?

[1:39:21] Trustee Fenton: I just support the notion of the invasive species. And I'm just thinking

[1:39:27] Trustee Fenton: of themes once again like the overarching trust council's themes with respect to the climate

[1:39:33] Trustee Fenton: change emergency um and the biodiversity loss of biodiversity and all of these things play into

[1:39:40] Trustee Fenton: this um this and the others listed on the on the report here and so you know the other things that

[1:39:49] Trustee Fenton: will drive us to or from um these projects over time and uh this is what's i think is important

[1:39:57] Trustee Fenton: important um sort of issue that needs to be addressed so uh i'm in support of it all right

[1:40:06] Trustee Patrick: thank you any further discussion not i'll call the vote all those in favor and that's carried

[1:40:14] Trustee Patrick: any other changes to the projects list staff are saying i hope not no

[1:40:18] Trustee Luckham: change but just make a remark

[1:40:20] Trustee Luckham: actually you know i've said this lots of times in the past is in the in our financial planning

[1:40:25] Trustee Luckham: committee work i love uh principles and assumptions and i think that that idea of principles and

[1:40:35] Trustee Luckham: assumptions needs to guide us in all the work that we do and so when we're thinking about a

[1:40:40] Trustee Luckham: soil removal and deposit bylaw for instance could be anything that the principles and assumptions

[1:40:44] Trustee Luckham: are is that we're we're recognizing first nations reconciliation we're recognizing climate change

[1:40:50] Trustee Luckham: change. We're recognizing watershed protection. Those are the principles and assumptions that

[1:40:56] Trustee Luckham: we need to always embrace and whether or not we need some kind of a document that directs us in

[1:41:03] Trustee Luckham: some way to that or maybe that's you know that it's amazing 10 years ago an OCP was made. Did

[1:41:09] Trustee Luckham: we actually say those things in our OCP 10 years ago? I don't think so. Would we do it today? Yes

[1:41:14] Trustee Luckham: we would there you go well

[1:41:19] Trustee Patrick: as you as you know uh trustee luckham i'm a big fan of making sure

[1:41:23] Trustee Patrick: for our projects now here on salt spring that we have a principal section of

[1:41:26] Trustee Patrick: what what are the principles that we're applying to the project

[1:41:32] Trustee Patrick: okay uh if uh we have uh our next meeting is going to be in person i understand

[1:41:41] Trustee Patrick: stand uh that's kind of exciting september 28th um and it says it's at the community center

[1:41:49] Trustee Patrick: is that uh is that true that

[1:41:52] Voice 8: will be true it's amazing you will be very impressed i

[1:41:55] Trustee Patrick: i am looking

[1:41:56] Trustee Patrick: forward to it uh so that's exciting uh are is there any further business today if not not i'll

[1:42:07] Trustee Patrick: I'll look for a motion to adjourn.

[1:42:10] Trustee Patrick: Is there a second?

[1:42:12] Trustee Patrick: Seconded by Trustee Luckham.

[1:42:13] Trustee Patrick: All those in favor?

[1:42:16] Trustee Patrick: And we are adjourned.

[1:42:18] Trustee Patrick: So thank you, everyone.

[1:42:19] Trustee Patrick: Thank you to all the staff for being here today.

[1:42:24] Trustee Patrick: And enjoy.

[1:42:25] Trustee Patrick: I hope you have some time off in the next while here.

[1:42:29] Trustee Patrick: Thank you, Lynn, for joining us.

[1:42:30] Trustee Patrick: And enjoy the rest of your summer.

[1:42:35] Voice 7: Thanks, Laura.

[1:42:35] Voice 7: may

[1:42:36] Trustee Patrick: it may it rain soon yes

[1:42:38] Trustee Luckham: thanks everyone thanks lynn for coming online nice to see you

[1:42:43] Trustee Luckham: in our community regularly lately oh that's great thanks all right thank you

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Thetis Island Local Trust Committee 
Minutes of Regular Meeting 
Date: 
Location: 
August 3, 2021 
Electronic Meeting 
 
Members Present: Laura Patrick, Chair 
 Doug Fenton, Local Trustee 
 Peter Luckham, Local Trustee 
  
Staff Present: Heather Kauer, Regional Planning Manager 
 Jaime Dubyna, Island Planner 
Sarah Shugar, Recorder 
 
Others Present: 
 
Lynne Smith, Cowichan Valley Regional District Area G Saltair / Gulf Islands 
Electoral Area Director 
1. CALL TO ORDER 
"Please note, the order of agenda items may be modified during the meeting. Times are provided 
for convenience only and are subject to change." 
Chair Patrick called the meeting to order at 9:31 a.m. She acknowledged that the meeting was 
being held in territory of the Coast Salish First Nations. Chair Patrick expressed support for the 
Penelakut Nation and continued reconciliation. 
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 
By general consent the agenda was approved as presented. 
3. REPORTS 
3.1 Trustee Reports 
  Trustee Luckham presented the following report: 
 Attended Trust Council June 8 to 10, 2021. 
 Attended a Trust Council special meeting on July 8, 2021 to consider the draft Trust 
Policy  Statement. Trust  Council  deferred  first  reading  of  the  draft Trust  Policy 
Statement to continue the public consultation process. 
 Attended a Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee meeting. 
 Attended a Lasqueti Island Local Trust Committee meeting. 
 Expressed gratitude to live and work on Thetis Island within the Penelakut territory. 
 Spoke to the water shortages and impacts to the environment. 
 Participated in a Walk for Children event organized by the Penelakut Nation on August 
2, 2021. Approximately 1500 people attended the event. 
 
 

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Director L. Smith joined the meeting at 9:35 a.m. 
 
  Trustee Fenton presented the following report: 
 Expressed gratitude to live and work in Lyackson and Penelakut territory. 
 Participated in a Walk for Children event organized by the Penelakut Nation on August 
2, 2021. 
 Attended an Islands Trust Conservancy meeting. 
 Attended a site visit to Sidney Island with Islands Trust Conservancy staff and 
Raincoast Conservation Federation staff regarding land stewardship.  
 Attended a Trust Policy Committee meeting. 
 Attended Trust Council June 8 to 10, 2021. 
 Attended a Trust Council special meeting on July 8, 2021 to consider the Trust Policy 
Statement. Trust Council deferred first reading of the draft Trust Policy Statement to 
continue the public consultation process. 
 Attended a meeting with the Thetis Island Nature Conservancy (Thinc) regarding 
habitat stewardship opportunities for Thetis Island. 
 Trustee Fenton expressed support for a community composting project.  
3.2 Chair's Report 
Chair Patrick reported the Trust Policy Statement is an Islands Trust Federation-wide 
guiding principles document. Chair Patrick encouraged members of the public to email 
feedback concerning the draft Trust Policy Statement to islands2050@islandstrust.bc.ca. 
The Executive Committee supported a resolution requesting staff to report back on 
further pubic consultation on the draft Trust Policy Statement and a draft public 
consultation plan will be considered at the next Trust Council meeting. 
3.3 Electoral Area Director's Report 
 Director Smith presented the following report: 
 Participated in a Walk for Children event organized by the Penelakut Nation on 
August 2, 2021. 
 A CVRD regional recreation project will proceed with data collection to bring 
forward a referendum in 2022. Director Smith expressed support for Area G Gulf 
Island residents to be excluded from the data collection and the regional recreation 
usage funding as they would be minimal users of recreation programs. 
 The Thetis Island Wharf grant application was unsuccessful. Director Smith will meet 
with stakeholders in August 2021 to explore options and solutions. 
 Expressed support for a Thetis Island community composting initiative. 
4. TOWN HALL 
 There were no speakers in the town hall portion of the meeting. Chair Patrick welcomed 
members of the public to submit comments and questions to northinfo@islandstrust.bc.ca. 
5. MINUTES 
5.1 Local Trust Committee Minutes dated June 1, 2021 - for adoption 

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The following amendment to the minutes was presented for consideration: Replace the 
statement “Acknowledged the recently discovered missing and murdered students of 
the former Kamloops Indian Residential School” with “Acknowledged the lost children 
and unmarked graves of residential school students of the former Kamloops Indian 
Residential School” in the Call to Order, Trustee Reports and the Electoral Area 
Director's Report. 
 
By general consent the minutes were adopted as amended. 
5.2 Section 26 Resolutions-Without-Meeting Report dated July 20, 2021 
  Received. 
5.3 Advisory Planning Commission Minutes - none 
6. BUSINESS ARISING FROM MINUTES 
6.1 Follow-up Action List dated July 26, 2021 
Planner Dubyna provided an update regarding an item dated June 1, 2021 - Staff to 
provide supporting documentation to the Local Trust Committee (LTC) regarding a 
mining operation permit on Valdes Island. 
7. APPLICATIONS AND REFERRALS 
7.1 Galiano Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 280 - Referral Request for Response 
 A bylaw referral form dated July 19, 2021 regarding Galiano Island Local Trust 
Committee Bylaw No. 280 was presented. 
 
  TH-2021-023 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee advise the Galiano Island Local Trust 
Committee that its direct interests are unaffected by Galiano Island Local Trust 
Committee Bylaw No. 280, however, the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee is 
cognisant of the accumulative impacts and is respectful of the need to create high 
density, low impact housing on the islands. 
CARRIED 
8. LOCAL TRUST COMMITTEE PROJECTS 
8.1 Shoreline and Coastal Protection Strategy Project - Staff Report 
 Planner Dubyna presented a staff report dated July 20, 2021 regarding a Thetis Island 
Local Trust Committee – Shoreline and Coastal Protection Strategy Project. 
 
In discussion, the following comments were noted: 
 Add to discussion paper new item 2.4 – Current and future uses.  
 Add to discussion paper new item 2.5 - Upland ecosystems at risk. If impacted will 
(indirectly) affect the health and sustainability of the coastal shoreline ecosystem. 
 Project Charter “Objectives” section: Move the second bullet “to frame the direction 
and scope of the project” to be the first bullet. 

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 Project Charter “In Scope” section: Discussion paper that includes a review of 
existing Islands Trust wide and Thetis Island policies and regulations related to 
shoreline and coastal protection, collates existing data on shoreline ecosystem 
features/functions, and an overview of regulatory and educational options available 
to strengthen shoreline and coastal protection. 
 Page 22 of agenda package (discussion paper section 5) – add a description of 
additional planning tools available (Regional Planning Committee shoreline project 
or other jurisdictions). 
 Project Charter “In Scope” section: add “assess cumulative impacts”. 
 Replace title “Thetis Island Shoreline and Coastal Protection Strategy Project - 
Charter v1” with “Thetis Island Shoreline and Coastal Protection Phase 1 Discussion 
Paper - Charter v1” to indicate this is a multi-phase project. 
 It was noted there is a triangle area of ocean that is not currently zoned and it was 
asked whether this could be addressed in this project. 
 To add funds to the budget to include community mail out and meeting costs. 
 Timeline of project charter be extended for the item “Develop Project Charter for 
next phase” from Nov. 16, 2021 to Spring 2022 to be respectful of the time of 
mourning for First Nations and Covid. 
 Discussion paper item 2.2 amended to recognize First Nations interests are broad 
and include “tidal, intertidal and upland”.  
 Discussion paper item 2.3 - Replace “Data and mapping of buildings and structures 
sited within the shoreline area” with “Data and mapping of existing buildings and 
structures sited within the shoreline area”.   
 Discussion paper item 2.3 - add a fourth bullet “hazard areas including landslip, 
surface water drainage, and severe weather impacted areas and sea level rise”.  
 Discussion paper section 3 “Policy and Regulatory Framework for Shoreline 
Protection Strategies” moved to later in the document. 
o Under item 3.1. Replace “First Nation role” with “First Nation territorial 
interests” (to be considered with Lisa Wilcox). 
o Item 3.2. Replace “Federal role” with “Federal responsibilities”. 
o Item 3.3. Replace “Provincial role” with “Provincial responsibilities”. 
 Discussion paper section 6, item 6.1 – replace “Identification and analysis of 
relevant Thetis Island OCP policies” with “Identification and analysis of relevant 
Thetis Island OCP policies, omissions, relevancy of current policy and climate 
change”. Applies to LUB (item 6.2) as well.  
 In section 7 of the discussion paper, include an “Other” under “Options”. 
 Include Regional District under the section 3 “Responsibilities”.   
 Include reference to early and ongoing consultation - consultation should follow a 
ladder approach rather than a linear approach. 
 Include provincial mapping for current buoys, docks and aquaculture leases. 
 Include Trust-wide climate change adaption report.  
 Include reference to Trust Council’s commitment to reconciliation in the 
introduction statement. Reference made to project work on Salt Spring – Ganges 
Village Plan and Housing project – for guidance.  

ADOPTED 
Thetis Island      ADOPTED 5 
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  TH-2021-024 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee request staff to prepare a discussion paper 
for the Shoreline and Coastal Protection Strategy project in accordance with the draft 
discussion paper outline, dated August 3, 2021, inclusive of the feedback at the Local 
Trust Committee meeting of August 3, 2021. 
CARRIED 
9. DELEGATIONS – none 
10. CORRESPONDENCE - none 
Correspondence received concerning current applications or projects is posted to the LTC 
webpage. 
11. NEW BUSINESS – none 
12. REPORTS 
12.1 Trust Conservancy Report dated May 25, 2021 
12.1.1 The Heron - Spring 2021 
   Received. 
12.2 Applications Report dated July 26, 2021 
  Received. 
12.3 Trustee and Local Expense Report dated May 2021 
  Received. 
12.4 Adopted Policies and Standing Resolutions 
  Received. 
12.5 Local Trust Committee Webpage - none 
13. WORK PROGRAM 
13.1 Top Priorities Report dated July 26, 2021 
  Received. 
13.2 Projects List Report dated July 26, 2021 
There was discussion regarding adding a soil removal and deposit bylaw to the Projects 
List in association with community composting and supporting local food production. It 
was noted there are concerns regarding introduction of invasive species from removing 
and depositing soil. It was noted staff could reference North Pender Island Local Trust 
Committee and Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee recent work on Soil Bylaw 
projects. 

ADOPTED 
Thetis Island      ADOPTED 6 
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August 3, 2021 
 TH-2021-025 
It was MOVED and SECONDED, 
that the Thetis Island Local Trust Committee add development of a Soil Removal and 
Deposit Bylaw to the Projects List. 
CARRIED 
14. CLOSED MEETING - none 
15. UPCOMING MEETINGS 
The next regular meeting is scheduled for Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 9:30 a.m. at the 
Thetis Island Community Centre (Forbes Hall), North Cove Road, Thetis Island, BC. 
16. ADJOURNMENT 
By general consent the meeting was adjourned at 11:13 a.m. 
 
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Laura Patrick, Chair 
 
Certified Correct: 
 
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Sarah Shugar, Recorder