Islands Trust Conservancy Board public hearing, July 16, 2022

[0:00:00] you should start the uh live stream um

[0:00:03] Voice 11: and i'd like to start as always by acknowledging that

[0:00:09] Voice 11: we are meeting an official uh and uh territories of the coast salish peoples many of course salish

[0:00:16] Voice 11: peoples i'm always reminded as i cross that they would see of uh the close connectivity

[0:00:22] Voice 11: activity of many of the coast English people. And of course,

[0:00:26] Voice 11: being an advocate are foremost in our in our thoughts and

[0:00:32] Voice 11: thank and we're grateful to be able to meet here in this

[0:00:35] Voice 11: traditional territory. This is the special meeting of the

[0:00:42] Voice 11: Galeano trust committee. In this case, this trust committee is

[0:00:47] Voice 11: made up of myself and my name is Dan Rogers and I recognize many

[0:00:51] Voice 11: any of the faces but i'm quite sure there are faces here that have not been to any of our local

[0:00:56] Voice 11: trust committees till now and uh i am a member of the executive of the islands trust and the vice

[0:01:04] Voice 11: chair and assigned to chair a number of local trust committees including galliano and main island and

[0:01:12] Voice 11: uh and gilriova i come from alcatsin pop sound uh and from uh lectines which is keats island

[0:01:23] Voice 11: And I am pleased to be here, as I always am, on Galliano.

[0:01:28] Voice 11: Everything's a little bit frantic today, I noticed, with the ferries and the traffic.

[0:01:33] Voice 11: I could not believe how many cars were coming off that ferry.

[0:01:37] Voice 11: And I guess that's because the early one got completely cancelled, which, of course, caused me a lot of angst.

[0:01:43] Voice 11: You, of course, will know your local trustee, Trustee Rockefeller.

[0:01:48] Voice 11: we between us because trustee wolverton is recused from this particular matter the only item that's on our agenda today

[0:01:55] Voice 11: it will just be the two of us conducting and participating in this public this special meeting

[0:02:05] Voice 11: part of the special meeting contains a public hearing which we'll get to in a moment

[0:02:12] Voice 11: um but before we do that i'll introduce some other people you'll know many of you will know

[0:02:20] Voice 11: planner brad smith who has joined us today he's the island planner for galliano uh with us as well

[0:02:26] Voice 11: uh is our reporter all the way from main island it's pat todd hi pat i work with pat on on main

[0:02:33] Voice 11: island um our regular recorder carly bilney is on matley and we're very thrilled for her um and so

[0:02:41] Voice 11: So she, Pat is filling in today.

[0:02:44] Voice 11: Pat has joined us, but she's the one in the top right-hand corner as well.

[0:02:49] Voice 11: You will hear me because we arranged to have staffing to allow us to have a fully interactive

[0:02:58] Voice 11: meeting.

[0:02:59] Voice 11: You may have heard me discuss that during the course of our local trust committees that

[0:03:03] Voice 11: we can't do that without incurring staff.

[0:03:06] Voice 11: We have arranged in this particular instance for full staffing.

[0:03:09] Voice 11: So there are people that have joined us on the actual webinar itself, and they are, and they will be able to participate in the meeting at this important public hearing.

[0:03:23] Voice 11: so as we work our way through the public hearing we will have a you will hear from time to time

[0:03:32] Voice 11: people who are uh not with not here in the room with us but i've asked to speak i i did a brief

[0:03:41] Voice 11: canvas at the outset and there were four or five that put up their hand so far my speakers list

[0:03:48] Voice 11: list has 30 some odd people on it. I indicated when asked in advance how long people would have

[0:03:55] Voice 11: a chance to speak. And I said I would determine that at the outset of the meeting. My intention

[0:04:04] Voice 11: is to, and I'll get to this when I get to the public hearing, but my intention is to allow

[0:04:11] Voice 11: four minutes per speaker. I was thinking three, I was thinking five. I've cut the difference

[0:04:17] Voice 11: and set four uh and hopefully that will allow us to work through the various speakers um as we do

[0:04:24] Voice 11: so first of all before we do that we i want to call the meeting we've called the order and we've

[0:04:29] Voice 11: got our acknowledgement i'm going to turn to trustee rothfeller and just ask there's an agenda

[0:04:34] Voice 11: before us uh are there any additions or amendments

[0:04:37] Voice 11: to the agenda no then we'll take the agenda um

[0:04:42] Voice 11: presented as adopted as presented um so uh and just so you know if you haven't seen the actual

[0:04:50] Voice 11: agendas we have a public hearing but then we have uh the intention is uh time permitting hopefully

[0:04:57] Voice 11: that we will then go into a decision item or at least a an item to consider the various

[0:05:04] Voice 11: items that are before us so i i have a few things just bear with me i guarantee you you're not going

[0:05:11] Voice 11: to hear a lot from me again until the end of the meeting um but just bear with me for a moment i

[0:05:16] Voice 11: want to read some introductory remarks and then i have to do some um formalities to open the public

[0:05:22] Voice 11: hearing um and uh and so just bear with me for a moment um today i just wanted to say today

[0:05:31] Voice 11: is a public hearing this is an important part of our legislative process yeah you need to mute

[0:05:40] Voice 11: yourselves um through your mic off too okay uh today we hear from members of the community

[0:05:55] Voice 11: uh and about uh these our proposed bylaws uh and and i say our they're they're drafted by

[0:06:03] Voice 11: allen's trust there in response to an application uh we after some preliminaries we will turn the

[0:06:09] Voice 11: floor over to you to you the members of the community we will work our way through the

[0:06:13] Voice 11: people who want to speak both here in person and online everyone will have four minutes

[0:06:19] Voice 11: it is important everyone respect that time limit so we can be fair to all please be brief

[0:06:29] Voice 11: make your point remember you are talking to the trustees as to what decision we make and what

[0:06:37] Voice 11: what decision you would like us to make.

[0:06:39] Voice 11: We may decide next steps in the bylaws today.

[0:06:44] Voice 11: Today it is important to remember all of the crucial,

[0:06:52] Voice 11: remember all of the requirements that I have mentioned

[0:06:55] Voice 11: during a town hall and other times

[0:06:57] Voice 11: when we've had public meetings.

[0:07:00] Voice 11: Please speak to the trustees.

[0:07:03] Voice 11: We are the ones that are gonna make this decision.

[0:07:06] it

[0:07:07] Voice 11: is not going to be members of your community that make this decision it's going to be the

[0:07:11] Voice 11: trustees don't please don't speak to each other uh or to the applicant i know there's a temptation

[0:07:18] Voice 11: to do that during the course of the public hearings but this is not a community dialogue

[0:07:24] Voice 11: in that sense in the sense that this is a normal public hearing please speak to issues not people

[0:07:32] Voice 11: uh our personalities that means don't characterize people or use pejorative language

[0:07:40] Voice 11: about other people's points of view or their positions that they've been taken including

[0:07:47] Voice 11: stop i want to be clear that some of the language i've not i'm not going to allow is one of the

[0:07:54] Voice 11: words i and i did this on main island is please don't use the word nimby

[0:07:59] Voice 10: i

[0:08:00] Voice 11: know what it means

[0:08:01] Voice 11: i understand that this has become a very very contentious point on this island

[0:08:06] Voice 11: but it is seen as a pejorative term regarding others and i don't we don't need to have a

[0:08:13] Voice 11: discussion about the word nimby there are other terms that you can use and there are other terms

[0:08:18] Voice 11: that are equally uh toxic and actually not to use this is not this forum to speak about your

[0:08:26] Voice 11: neighbors speak about the issues we have been working on for most of the last two

[0:08:31] Voice 8: and a half

[0:08:32] Voice 11: years so appropriate language this is a public space for everybody to feel comfortable and

[0:08:39] Voice 11: a workspace so with that i'm going to you're going to hear from me for a minute more you're going to

[0:08:48] Voice 11: you're going to um i'm going to open the public hearing you'll hear from me you'll hear from

[0:08:56] Voice 11: planner smith about the nature of the issues that before us recall we had a community information

[0:09:02] Voice 11: meeting not 10 days ago in this

[0:09:05] Voice 11: exact space that matter was recorded etc etc so you had an

[0:09:10] Voice 11: opportunity to review that there were a number of questions that were asked a number of answers

[0:09:15] Voice 11: the public hearing for proposed bylaws 276 and 277 is now open

[0:09:23] Voice 11: uh i wish to welcome everyone in attendance and i've already done the acknowledge uh and i've

[0:09:30] Voice 11: acknowledged introduced the staff this public hearing is being convened pursuant to section 465

[0:09:40] Voice 11: of the local government act in order to consider the following proposed bylaws proposed bylaw 276

[0:09:48] Voice 11: cited as galliano island official community plan bylaw number 108 1995 amendment number two

[0:09:55] Voice 11: and Proposed By-law No. 277, cited as Galliana Land Use By-law No. 127,

[0:10:02] Voice 11: 1999 Amendment No. 12020.

[0:10:06] Voice 11: All persons who believe their interest in property is affected by the proposed by-laws

[0:10:13] Voice 11: will be given a reasonable opportunity to be heard or to present written submissions

[0:10:19] Voice 11: respecting matters contained in the proposed by-laws.

[0:10:22] Voice 11: those wishing to speak should commend their presentation by clearly stating their names

[0:10:29] Voice 11: and address and thank you to all of you for signing up in advance members of the local trust

[0:10:35] Voice 11: committee may if they wish ask questions of you following your presentation however the main

[0:10:42] Voice 11: function of the local trust committee members is to listen to the views of the of the public

[0:10:49] Voice 11: public and the community it is not the function of committee members to debate the merits of the

[0:10:53] Voice 11: proposed bylaws with individual citizens or indeed at this stage to answer questions

[0:10:59] Voice 11: everyone will be given a reasonable opportunity to be heard and not feel discouraged from

[0:11:04] Voice 11: presenting his or her views and considering the proposed bylaw the local trust committee

[0:11:08] Voice 11: has received documents which may influence its decision those documents are available

[0:11:14] Voice 11: for review during this hearing on our website and as indicated in the public hearing notice

[0:11:21] Voice 11: there is a public hearing binder over there that anyone is free to have a look at the public

[0:11:28] Voice 11: hearing binder is also on uh the website uh and i think it was up to date till two o'clock yesterday

[0:11:36] Voice 11: afternoon, 3.30 yesterday afternoon. We have continued to receive submissions since that

[0:11:44] Voice 11: time. We have them, but they are not necessarily in the public hearing document. But we have

[0:11:51] Voice 11: received, there was a multitude of them, some of them all the same, but there was a number

[0:11:57] Voice 11: of them, including some that I got, we have got this morning, and I see I have at least

[0:12:02] Voice 11: one here handed in at first. Any person who wishes to present a written submission to the

[0:12:09] Voice 11: Local Trust Committee may do so, and all written submissions must be received by the Local Trust

[0:12:15] Voice 11: Committee before the close of the hearing. Send written submissions to vicphsub, v-i-c-p-h-sub

[0:12:24] Voice 11: at islandstrust.bc.ca, or hand them in up here. Your only opportunity to comment on the proposed

[0:12:32] Voice 11: by-laws is during this hearing as members of the local trust committee may not receive

[0:12:37] Voice 11: further submissions after the closure of this hearing i will just say um i was reviewing all

[0:12:46] Voice 11: the submissions for the last two and a half years there are well over 300 and i read them all again

[0:12:51] Voice 11: uh the day before yesterday and yesterday so we've had many many many many many submissions

[0:12:58] Voice 11: after this public hearing has concluded the local trust committee may without further notice make

[0:13:03] Voice 11: whatever decision it needs proper with respect to the bylaws that are the subject of the public here

[0:13:12] Voice 11: so before we enter into public commentary uh island planner brad smith will now summarize

[0:13:18] Voice 11: the public hearing notice key points of the bylaw and yes if i could ask people to perhaps turn

[0:13:25] Voice 11: their ringer off on their phone that would be very much appreciated and referral agency response

[0:13:31] Voice 11: a copy of this notice oh go ahead it's over to you uh brad

[0:13:38] Voice 11: you're gonna have time to speak up so

[0:13:41] Voice 16: i have a stadium to read as well so it's very okay

[0:13:45] Voice 9: so uh public hearing notice was uh advertised in two consecutive editions of the driftwood

[0:13:52] Voice 9: on june 29th and july 6 2022 all notification requirements under the local government

[0:13:57] Voice 9: act have been completed there's a copy of the complete public hearing binder there's

[0:14:02] Voice 9: two parts to it available during this public hearing it is located on the island's trust

[0:14:06] Voice 9: website i'm not going to read out the link but it's under the current applications page on the

[0:14:13] Voice 9: galliano website the purpose of proposed bylaws 276 and 277 if adopted will amend the galliano

[0:14:20] Voice 9: island official community plan bylaw number eight and galliano island land use bylaw number 127 by

[0:14:26] Voice 9: rezoning a two hectare portion of the subject property known as the heritage forest to allow

[0:14:30] Voice 9: for the development of up to 12 residential

[0:14:32] Voice 21: affordable

[0:14:33] Voice 9: housing rental units the proposed

[0:14:36] Voice 9: bylaws were referred to the ministry of municipal affairs ministry of forest lands and natural

[0:14:40] Voice 9: resource operations water licensing branch ministry of attorney general and minister

[0:14:45] Voice 9: responsible for housing ministry of transportation and infrastructure bc hydro and power authority

[0:14:51] Voice 9: telus galliano trail society bc assessment authority bc housing capital regional district

[0:14:56] Voice 9: planning and protective services building inspection of regional housing integrated

[0:15:00] Voice 9: water services galliano island parks and recreation commission galliano fire rescue

[0:15:06] Voice 9: south department bc assessment authority maine salt spring and fetus island local trust committees

[0:15:11] Voice 9: communities for comment. It was also referred to Cowichan Tribes, Halal First Nations,

[0:15:15] Voice 9: Lake Cowichan First Nation, Laiyixin First Nation, Malahat First Nation, Musqueam Indian Band,

[0:15:21] Voice 9: Paquichin First Nation, Penelope Tribes, Semiyamu First Nation, Tsunemex First Nations,

[0:15:28] Voice 9: Tsunemes First Nation, Tsarsilip First Nation, Tsueyap First Nation, Tawasin First Nation,

[0:15:33] Voice 9: Tsaykum First Nation, and the Wassonic Leadership Council for comment.

[0:15:37] Voice 9: there have been approximately or there have been 157 public hearing submissions received as of

[0:15:45] Voice 9: about 10 minutes ago back to you chair and it's

[0:15:53] Voice 11: just a reminder that the um that the

[0:15:58] Voice 11: material is all available online or the public hearing binder is here i'll continue submissions

[0:16:06] Voice 11: We made at any time during until the close of the hearing if any submissions are received during the

[0:16:10] Voice 11: meeting will pause prior to closing the to ensure the LTC has time to review those submissions, the submissions should be emailed to, as I said,

[0:16:21] Voice 11: vicph sub islandstrust.bc.ca and i'm sure that robin is monitoring that and will let us know

[0:16:28] Voice 11: if there are any more to be received i can tell you that i have read all of the submissions

[0:16:35] Voice 11: up to uh when i arrived as when the ferry docked so um uh so leave me rest assured that i've read

[0:16:44] Voice 11: all of those um i've asked people to that wish to speak to sign up uh please state your name

[0:16:56] Voice 11: uh to prior to making comments now what i've suggested we do is because we're broadcasting

[0:17:02] Voice 11: um and because the speaker for the public reporting and everything is is in

[0:17:09] Voice 11: the camera that's now broadcasting up there i've said a chair which i would actually ask

[0:17:14] Voice 11: we perhaps moved a little closer back here and i i'd ask you when you speak if you could come up

[0:17:20] Voice 11: and sit in the chair if you don't want to be on camera i will i will i will acknowledge that

[0:17:27] Voice 11: request uh and won't turn the camera but otherwise i mean you can move the chair a little bit further

[0:17:32] Voice 11: back so you're not on camera but otherwise you will have an opportunity to be on camera

[0:17:38] Voice 11: please state your name trying to make comments after your presentation to the ltc we may ask

[0:17:45] Voice 11: you questions but we're here primarily to listen and to hear what you have to say so with that

[0:17:52] Voice 11: i'm going to open the speakers list and i have two lists and i have people online and i'll

[0:17:58] Voice 11: intersperse this as we go along please remember that i'm setting a timer for four minutes

[0:18:04] Voice 11: and uh i ask you to to uh recognize and keep your commentary within that four minutes i

[0:18:13] Voice 11: will also say one other thing uh if you can be briefer that would be great

[0:18:19] Voice 11: so if you have something that you can say in 23 seconds take that time to say that i would also

[0:18:24] Voice 11: say that uh if it is important it's not necessary to be repetitive if you've sent us a letter that

[0:18:31] Voice 11: that says everything you want to say feel feel be comfortable the knowledge that we've read

[0:18:37] Voice 11: so having

[0:18:39] Voice 1: said that you're

[0:18:39] Voice 11: free to speak so the first name i have on my list is uh megan mckay

[0:18:46] Voice 11: so i can have you come up so

[0:18:51] Voice 6: i would ask that trustee and chair that you please move this

[0:18:57] Voice 6: project forward um i am in full support of it and the location um i rented in that neighborhood

[0:19:06] Voice 6: previously it's a great neighborhood i think it's a perfect place for families and others who

[0:19:11] Voice 6: want to be there um i also wanted to just speak for all the people who i personally know who are

[0:19:18] Voice 6: at work right now and cannot be here and they probably sent letters but just a recognition of

[0:19:23] Voice 6: of the people who make this community go,

[0:19:27] Voice 6: who write and need this desperately.

[0:19:29] Voice 6: Thank

[0:19:30] Voice 21: you very much.

[0:19:34] Voice 23: I should

[0:19:36] Voice 11: have said that before.

[0:19:37] Voice 11: I think it's not appropriate to applaud.

[0:19:41] Voice 11: It's just, it can be intimidating to other people

[0:19:45] Voice 11: when you don't applaud them.

[0:19:46] Voice 11: I think that's too much.

[0:19:48] Voice 11: So I would ask you not to applaud or whistle

[0:19:52] Voice 11: or, and certainly don't call out to say that.

[0:19:55] Voice 11: So, Megan, hopefully, you got applause.

[0:19:59] Voice 11: It means a lot.

[0:20:01] Voice 11: But thank you very much.

[0:20:02] Voice 11: The next person I have, and I'm going to alternate my list, is

[0:20:06] Voice 23: Stephen Akins.

[0:20:09] Voice 23: And

[0:20:19] Voice 30: please state your name and your address, please.

[0:20:22] Voice 30: Hello, my name is Stephen Akins, and I'm a renter here on Galliano Island at 39 Highview Drive,

[0:20:28] Voice 30: along with my partner and two young children who are third-generation Galeano Islanders.

[0:20:37] Voice 30: I am fully in support of this project and ask that you move it forward.

[0:20:43] Voice 30: I'm a renter here, but I'm one of the lucky ones.

[0:20:46] Voice 30: I have a sympathetic landlord who purchased the house I live in

[0:20:50] Voice 30: because they wanted to create long-term housing for a Galeano family.

[0:20:55] Voice 30: Even then, my own rent has increased 50% since I moved to the island 13 years ago, even though

[0:21:02] Voice 30: my housing hasn't changed significantly.

[0:21:06] Voice 30: Current homeowners are generally happy to see the value of the properties increase way

[0:21:12] Voice 30: above the rate of inflation as they see their personal wealth increase because of it.

[0:21:19] Voice 30: but the downstream effect is on this has is that people who are renting to the people renting

[0:21:26] Voice 30: means that the cost of the rent has steadily outpaced their income but the cost of rent isn't

[0:21:32] Voice 30: the only issue here on galliano island for instance people are being kicked out of long-term

[0:21:36] Voice 30: rentals so owners can profit from short vacation rentals it's not supposed to happen but it does

[0:21:45] we had to move out of our home which my oldest son spent half his life in

[0:21:50] Voice 30: so that my landlord

[0:21:52] Voice 30: could move in an airbnb of the cottage they moved out we had to move several times after that with

[0:22:00] Voice 30: our newborn son before we got lucky and moved into decent housing we had months of high stress

[0:22:06] Voice 30: and desperation and then years of being uncertain about our housing future before we found our

[0:22:12] Voice 30: current home we're very happy now but if i'm totally honest with myself i have to admit that

[0:22:17] Voice 30: our housing future depends on our landlord whose circumstances could change at any time and we

[0:22:22] Voice 30: could have our lives turned upside down again through no fault of our own desperate to find

[0:22:28] Voice 30: decent affordable housing again still many people's struggles are much worse than our own

[0:22:34] Voice 30: and there probably isn't a canadian community that isn't affected by a short of shortage of

[0:22:38] Voice 30: affordable housing there aren't great there aren't great statistics specifically here for

[0:22:45] Voice 30: galleon wildlands but there are for canada at large and for neighboring communities such as

[0:22:50] Voice 30: victoria rentals.ca produces a rental report which measures the price of current

[0:22:56] Voice 30: or newly available rentals and which shows single family homes detached or semi-attached

[0:23:03] Voice 30: experienced an annual increase of average rent between june 2021 and june 2022 of 13.2 annually

[0:23:13] Voice 30: the cmhc's report is based on current rental inventory of all units not just the ones newly

[0:23:19] Voice 30: available and therefore a more conservative figure but even their figures have shown an increase

[0:23:23] Voice 30: of rent of 29 for the city of victoria from 2014 to 2021 and according to stats can the

[0:23:31] Voice 30: the median market income for Canadians during approximately the same period went down.

[0:23:37] Voice 30: Another downstream effect of the issue of a growing lack of affordable housing is the effect on the labour pool.

[0:23:42] Voice 30: I know of at least three businesses on the island who have in the past or are currently providing sometimes substandard rentals,

[0:23:50] Voice 30: probably illegally to their employees simply because there's nothing available for their employees otherwise.

[0:23:55] Voice 30: And even if there is something available, they are not able to provide wages that would be able to keep up with the rising rents.

[0:24:02] Voice 30: 15 seconds if you could try in my opinion our affordable housing issue is broad and deep

[0:24:10] Voice 30: and we need not one solution but multiple solutions we have been talking about affordable

[0:24:15] Voice 30: housing initiatives for decades and it's well past time to act thank

[0:24:19] Voice 11: you sir so i'll give you

[0:24:22] Voice 11: an idea what four minutes looks like good idea uh so the next person will be uh janice oakley

[0:24:34] Voice 11: and then and the suggestion is is i name the next person after that will be jennifer barbison

[0:24:40] Voice 11: and could i ask the people online please to uh just put your hands up and lead them up if you

[0:24:47] Voice 11: wish to speak so thank you very much uh so yes go ahead uh my

[0:24:54] Voice 18: name is janice oakley and my address

[0:24:57] Voice 18: This is 2330 Georgeson Bay Road in Galliana, Ireland.

[0:25:03] Voice 18: 25 years ago, when I arrived on Galliana with my two-year-old,

[0:25:07] Voice 18: I was lucky enough to find a little bachelor suite I could afford.

[0:25:11] Voice 18: And for the next 10 years, I lived in houses whose rent my low wages could pay.

[0:25:17] Voice 18: I worked mostly in services, cleaning, stores, restaurants, as well as the food program.

[0:25:24] Voice 18: I was also selling my mosaics and taking care of each other's children so we could all work.

[0:25:31] Voice 18: This was part of how we managed.

[0:25:34] Voice 18: I always felt like I contributed to the Galliano community, both in paid and unpaid volunteer work.

[0:25:42] Voice 18: Yet, if it wasn't for those first affordable living situations I luckily found, we would definitely not have been able to stay.

[0:25:51] Voice 18: these days there simply is not enough housing for all the low-income workers needed to have

[0:25:58] Voice 18: a functioning and diverse population the heritage forest lands are suitable for this proposal

[0:26:05] Voice 18: we live in a world that gives status to high income earners as well as value some kinds of

[0:26:13] Voice 18: work over others regardless of what contributions the work actually makes to a diverse community

[0:26:20] Voice 18: community, and a livable planet. Providing housing for all is a responsibility of every

[0:26:26] Voice 18: community, big or small, that needs to be taken seriously. We fall prey to capitalist thinking

[0:26:33] Voice 18: when we just strive to take care of our own family. The needs of our neighbors and fellow

[0:26:39] Voice 18: citizens are our needs too. Our connections to one another are beginning anew to be felt as we

[0:26:47] Voice 18: we wake up to the interconnectedness of all life.

[0:26:51] Voice 18: How we relate to our other than human family,

[0:26:54] Voice 18: as well as to each other's as humans,

[0:26:57] Voice 18: is the task ahead of us.

[0:27:01] Voice 18: This affordable housing proposal gives us the opportunity

[0:27:04] Voice 18: to rise to the task.

[0:27:07] Voice 18: Thank you for moving forward with the Gagers proposal.

[0:27:10] Voice 18: Thank

[0:27:12] Voice 23: you very much.

[0:27:20] Voice 11: So then the next speaker will be Jennifer Margison

[0:27:24] Voice 11: and uh to lorelei allen

[0:27:34] Voice 12: streaming good

[0:27:40] Voice 21: afternoon

[0:27:41] Voice 18: since this proposal was announced you have heard

[0:27:46] Voice 18: from me a lot about this particular project on this particular site and the many reasons that

[0:27:52] Voice 18: i and others believe it is not suitable but i would like to talk about this today in a more

[0:27:57] Voice 18: personal way i understand that this is a real and emotional issue for people i am not

[0:28:04] Voice 18: against affordable housing, quite the opposite in fact, and I wish I would have been able to direct

[0:28:09] Voice 18: my time to promoting viable housing options on our island for the past almost four years rather

[0:28:15] Voice 18: than opposing this development. There is a community need, of course, for housing, but there is no need

[0:28:21] Voice 18: to put it on heritage forest land where the environmental impact will be so much greater

[0:28:27] Voice 18: and the housing accessibility is so much cooler and should be the case.

[0:28:32] Voice 18: So I want to say to everyone here today that

[0:28:36] Voice 28: I have not been fighting against something

[0:28:38] Voice 28: or against some of you, as I know it has been claimed by some in the community.

[0:28:43] Voice 18: I have been fighting for something, to preserve and protect the natural environment of this site

[0:28:50] Voice 18: that due to my proximity to the Heritage Forest, I have come to know well.

[0:28:55] Voice 18: yes indeed it is in my backyard in fact that is why i stuck with this process these past years

[0:29:03] Voice 18: because i do know as well like a friend i can go to for comfort and understanding

[0:29:10] Voice 18: as i know others seek solace there i know where the grouse sing and the owls hoot and the ravens

[0:29:17] Voice 18: perch and the glyphs of lily's gloom where the big arbutus cedars and turds are and how beautiful

[0:29:24] Voice 18: It is. To walk down that LA, a big leaf maples in the spring and fall. I care about the land and its habitat for wildlife. It is a friend I am trying to protect from harm. I know it will be nothing like it is if this development goes ahead.

[0:29:43] Voice 18: have. And so I'm called the N word for such a view and such a

[0:29:49] Voice 18: feeling. I need to say, in reference to what you said, I

[0:29:55] Voice 18: consider that term intimidation and bullying. I am only

[0:30:00] Voice 11: in as much so could you address the trustees yeah i am

[0:30:04] Voice 11: address the trustee not your community yeah

[0:30:09] Voice 18: i only am in as much as any of us are here so for example care about oil tankers traversing

[0:30:16] Voice 18: the sailor's seat or the cutting of old rope at ferry creek and want to prevent that that's our

[0:30:22] Voice 18: backyard too if we want to prevent harm coming to the environment around us my opposition has

[0:30:30] Voice 18: nothing to do with not wanting new neighbors but i do want development anywhere on this island to

[0:30:35] Voice 18: tread on nature as lightly as possible and i do believe that this will not be the case for

[0:30:41] Voice 18: a development of this size in this particular location and so i oppose it not because of what

[0:30:48] Voice 18: it is but where it is there is a misunderstanding in the community that this land has been dedicated

[0:30:59] Voice 18: for affordable housing in fact this rezoning would be a clear breach of the covenant and

[0:31:05] Voice 18: the declaration of trust and the ocp and i note that one of the covenant signatories was

[0:31:11] Voice 18: i wonder what he would think of this the land base is not big enough at 126.06 acres

[0:31:21] Voice 18: to satisfy the formula in the covenant and trigger the possible provision of land for development

[0:31:29] Voice 18: and debbie holmes the trustee at the time will provide much more detail about that injured

[0:31:35] Voice 18: written submission the math is very simple one percent of 200 hectares is two hectares

[0:31:45] Voice 18: and that formula was deliberately designed to minimize the impact of development on the land

[0:31:51] Voice 18: thank you

[0:31:52] Voice 11: and we did receive your extensive submission last night thank you

[0:31:56] Voice 18: uh

[0:31:57] Voice 11: i think the next person i have was online with lorelei allen so can we get can we get

[0:32:04] Voice 11: oh she's gone or have you promoted her okay she bumped out of there

[0:32:13] Voice 11: there you go

[0:32:14] Voice 11: okay lorelei yes

[0:32:18] Voice 2: hi i want to say um i and my husband and i are building a house as you

[0:32:22] Voice 2: the trustees know and many in the community know we're building on land we bought 20 years ago and

[0:32:28] Voice 2: And we were both working at the time in moderate jobs.

[0:32:33] Voice 2: And we were able to afford a piece of land at that time, a very small piece.

[0:32:38] Voice 2: I wanted to say how it's really hard.

[0:32:41] Voice 2: It's much harder than we thought it would be.

[0:32:43] Voice 2: And we have built houses in the past.

[0:32:47] Voice 2: On Galliano, I know that people of my generation who came here in the 70s, 60s, 70s, 80s, probably

[0:32:55] Voice 2: probably even the 90s and low, low, early 2000s could afford to buy a place. And building was

[0:33:05] Voice 2: easier. It's very, very difficult. We're just stubborn and keeping at it. In light of that,

[0:33:12] Voice 2: we are in a catastrophic housing market. And the next generation rarely can afford to buy land,

[0:33:19] Voice 2: especially here. Building, I can't imagine, but it's possible if it's very, very small.

[0:33:27] Voice 2: So I just wanted to give you that picture of another aspect of housing. And we support the

[0:33:35] Voice 2: project. I think that the clustered housing on that land of approximately five acres will be

[0:33:42] Voice 2: ecologically sound. I think it will be beautiful. I think they're going to do a great job of

[0:33:47] Voice 2: landscaping and keeping the area as pristine as possible. And I think the size of the lot

[0:33:55] Voice 2: is probably around the same as all the others in the development. I think that's it. Just

[0:34:01] Voice 2: want you to push it forward and vote for it. Thank you very much. Thank you.

[0:34:05] Voice 11: now um and the next speaker is um is bowie keifer and then after that will be carmita

[0:34:20] Voice 11: i'm sorry i'll i'll probably mispronounce your name the mana heart uh but bowie keepers there

[0:34:26] Voice 11: uh i'm

[0:34:30] Voice 15: representing uh my the three generations of my family and i wanted to make some comments

[0:34:37] Voice 15: about the location and my first comment would be that we have a great need for affordable housing

[0:34:46] Voice 15: in this community and we need it at more than one location some affordable housing should be

[0:34:52] Voice 15: located near where people work and and we have a need for affordable housing in the north end as

[0:34:59] Voice 15: well as south end and in the middle of the island i'm involved with the galliano equine forestry

[0:35:06] Voice 15: association which wants to see this entire island be managed better in terms of forest stewardship to

[0:35:14] Voice 15: be a demonstration forest the whole island and that means jobs for young people but we need

[0:35:21] Voice 15: to create affordable housing so people can live and work young people can live and work on this

[0:35:26] Voice 15: island and i'm hopeful that that we will do this and there's no better place to start with forest

[0:35:34] Voice 15: forest restoration and the heritage forest.

[0:35:36] Voice 15: And I would like to see some young forest workers

[0:35:40] Voice 15: living in this affordable housing, close to where they work.

[0:35:45] Voice 15: I'm also involved with the Galliano Trail Society.

[0:35:49] Voice 15: We're connecting trails along the night to the island,

[0:35:52] Voice 15: working with the Galliano Club and the Conservancy

[0:35:54] Voice 15: and BC Parks.

[0:35:55] Voice 15: And the heritage forest is an important network

[0:35:59] Voice 15: of the trail network.

[0:36:00] Voice 15: That's an important node, I should say,

[0:36:03] Voice 15: of the trail network.

[0:36:03] Voice 15: work. And it's good for people to live near where they do their

[0:36:08] Voice 15: recreation. The most important thing that we could do for

[0:36:15] Voice 15: transportation, this island has safe routes for bicycles, and

[0:36:20] Voice 15: the logical route for a bikeway running from the south end to

[0:36:23] Voice 15: the north end of this island is the east side road. And this

[0:36:27] Voice 15: runs right past the proposed affordable housing site, which I

[0:36:32] Voice 15: think is perfect and that connects the affordable housing to the to the stores and to the school

[0:36:38] Voice 15: so thank you very much thank you um

[0:36:44] Voice 11: yeah so the next speaker is uh

[0:36:48] Voice 11: karmida and then the next one after that will be doug light lattice

[0:36:52] Voice 11: i am

[0:37:12] Voice 7: not in favor of this project because i have serious concerns and the most important

[0:37:23] Voice 7: concerns and the lack of affordability of the GILAR project.

[0:37:28] Voice 7: I will begin with affordability.

[0:37:32] Voice 7: These housing agreements, which will be later revised, do not guarantee that most of the

[0:37:39] Voice 7: units are affordable, neither that there will be units with low subsidy rates.

[0:37:47] Voice 7: For instance, a person earning $77,000 can rent one of the twin units in place of a low-income person.

[0:38:05] Voice 7: As an example, a one-bedroom unit for a couple without

[0:38:10] Voice 7: children would have a rent close to $2,000,

[0:38:15] Voice 7: and units for two or more bedrooms would have a rent of $3,000.

[0:38:22] Voice 7: And let me repeat, there is no guarantee of deep subsidy rentals in bigger housing agreements.

[0:38:33] Voice 7: There are no units available for residents with fixed incomes, seniors, people with disability

[0:38:41] Voice 7: and income assistance.

[0:38:44] Voice 7: They will be after double market rentals tied to the Victoria Index rental that will go

[0:38:51] Voice 7: increases. And in this housing agreement,

[0:38:56] Voice 7: it's not more exclusively

[0:38:59] Voice 7: for affordable. In primary, you can have up to

[0:39:03] Voice 7: 49% of the units as affordable market rent.

[0:39:09] Voice 7: The housing agreement has to be tight enough

[0:39:12] Voice 7: to include units for the more vulnerable residents of Ghana.

[0:39:16] Voice 7: I would like now to correct something that was

[0:39:20] Voice 7: saying by the experts water expert in the community information system he mentioned that

[0:39:30] Voice 7: the people and the speakers on what the system should waste a lot of water he said that we have

[0:39:37] Voice 7: the highest demand and use and that's not so i look at the crd websites and they were in the

[0:39:47] Voice 7: the only year we have all the data, in 2018, and there were three more water systems in the Gulf Islands that used more water than the sea calzons.

[0:40:01] Voice 7: The comparison of the demands of the water system with the project well and demands of people that is in the water report

[0:40:15] Voice 7: port and the water management planning tank with the main island demands of the water system they

[0:40:21] Voice 7: are the

[0:40:21] Voice 7: lowest of all of them and one of them i have hidden for for three weeks last summer

[0:40:29] Voice 7: they have to track water and that one has now a boiling boiling water with respect to the

[0:40:41] Voice 7: the environment and the heritage forest is not like an empty forest, the community forest.

[0:40:50] Voice 7: It's a young coastal Douglas fir forest with a habitat.

[0:40:57] Voice 7: It has, according to the management plan list,

[0:41:01] Voice 7: 64 species of birds,

[0:41:04] Voice 7: five of them are at risk or species of concern,

[0:41:07] Voice 7: four amphibian, one is a species of concern.

[0:41:13] Voice 7: the ocp states that the protection itself would say very short the protection and recovery of

[0:41:20] Voice 7: rare and endangered plant and animal species and critical habitat should be

[0:41:26] Voice 7: considered and

[0:41:27] Voice 7: and aggressive in all land use species

[0:41:30] Voice 11: thank you please don't do that you're actually

[0:41:34] Voice 11: would criticize me. Thank you.

[0:41:42] Voice 11: Mr. La. And then we'll go back

[0:41:44] Voice 11: and then we'll and the next speaker will be Laurie. I never

[0:41:51] Voice 11: know if that's pronounced. Thank

[0:41:53] Voice 11: you. You're next.

[0:41:57] Voice 12: Go ahead.

[0:42:04] Voice 5: I have not I've been fortunate in my life I have not needed affordable housing

[0:42:10] Voice 5: know that there's not a lot of people who do affordable housing can be a place to rent

[0:42:22] Voice 5: there's just not enough rentals to supply the people who want to live and work here

[0:42:29] Voice 5: I have a small farm. I hire people to work on my farm, and often there is no one to hire.

[0:42:41] Voice 5: So we need more housing in general, and we need it for rental housing.

[0:42:52] Voice 5: I've also been at many of the LTC meetings and listened to the water experts.

[0:43:03] Voice 5: i've been satisfied in my mind that there is water available not a problem and i am in favor

[0:43:11] Voice 5: of this project thank you thank

[0:43:13] Voice 11: you very much laurie steve and then i'll go on um online

[0:43:29] Voice 19: yeah um so i've been involved my name is laurie steven about 10 86 george

[0:43:34] Voice 19: I'm Kelly. I've been involved in the development of housing projects in three communities in

[0:43:44] Voice 19: my life. And I would encourage the LTC to see some patterns around these projects, whether

[0:43:52] Voice 19: they're happening on the end of Georgia View or in PBLI or in Toronto. These kinds of well

[0:43:58] Voice 19: organized pushbacks are standard fare. And I think we can see by the room today, certainly

[0:44:03] Voice 19: by the correspondence that there is overwhelming support for this project i've read the water

[0:44:09] Voice 19: reports and all of the correspondence submitted by the proponents and i'm satisfied that the

[0:44:16] Voice 19: science is solid the myth that the housing market here is going to trickle down enough

[0:44:23] Voice 19: market or affordable rental housing is uh it's a pipe it's not happening it's not happening

[0:44:31] Voice 19: with the tinkering with the stvrs and it's not happening in any community that i'm aware of so

[0:44:36] Voice 19: what we need is purpose-built affordable housing finally i would just like to thank the ltc this

[0:44:44] has been

[0:44:45] Voice 19: an incredible amount of work for community members and for you folks um and i'd

[0:44:51] Voice 19: like to just quickly on the record acknowledge the board of directors of fingers led by indigenous

[0:44:56] Voice 19: and a single mom, Lisa Gavro, who have, these are working folks who have turned their lives

[0:45:02] Voice 19: upside down to move this project. And regardless of what happens at three o'clock today, we

[0:45:08] Voice 19: owe them a great bit of gratitude for exposing the holes that people have fallen into in

[0:45:15] Voice 19: their community. We are a community. We are not a cottage country. We are a community

[0:45:21] Voice 19: and we're not

[0:45:22] Voice 19: very cannibalized by the two massive rental markets that the pressure's

[0:45:27] Voice 19: coming in from Vancouver and Victoria and we can't passively wait for this stuff to

[0:45:32] Voice 19: happen anymore. I trust the reports and I urge you to move forward with approval for

[0:45:37] Voice 19: your zone.

[0:45:38] Voice 21: Thank you very

[0:45:39] Voice 11: much. Okay so I'm going to go online now and I have Elizabeth

[0:45:48] Voice 11: Elizabeth Platt, if we could unmute Elizabeth Platt.

[0:45:54] Voice 11: You should be able to unmute yourself now.

[0:45:58] Voice 11: Go ahead.

[0:45:59] Voice 13: Okay, thank you.

[0:46:01] Voice 13: I can't be any more eloquent

[0:46:03] Voice 13: than those who have spoken before

[0:46:05] Voice 13: in my support and appreciation for this project.

[0:46:10] Voice 13: It'll come as no surprise to you that I do support it.

[0:46:13] Voice 13: And I want, as Laurie just said,

[0:46:17] Voice 13: to thank those wonderful hardworking people on the gigahertz board for their

[0:46:25] Voice 13: tireless work and especially to Lisa for her constant flow of articles in the

[0:46:32] Voice 13: active page and to the probably thousands of pages of work that the

[0:46:39] Voice 13: the trust has done. So I am very much for putting this project into action. Thank you

[0:46:49] Voice 13: very much.

[0:46:52] Voice 11: Thank you. And the next speaker I have is Brian Russell. And then following Mr. Russell

[0:46:58] Voice 11: will be Debbie.

[0:47:05] Voice 21: Thank you.

[0:47:07] Voice 23: I support the project. In May 27, 2021, I wrote a letter, which is in there,

[0:47:16] a couple of paper copies of five reasons why I think this project should be at a higher

[0:47:23] elevation, more in keeping with the planning of the neighborhood and the current properties

[0:47:29] on Georgia Q. And my biggest issue is sort

[0:47:34] Voice 17: of a knowledge of the Public Health Act and

[0:47:38] Voice 17: the septic systems.

[0:47:40] Voice 17: And my understanding, for a five-bedroom household, you need a 1,250-gallon holding tank and leaching

[0:47:48] Voice 17: bed.

[0:47:49] Voice 17: There are at least 20 bedrooms, so that means four of those units.

[0:47:54] Voice 17: And I guess where I'm going with this, there's been no transparency from the

[0:48:01] Voice 17: vigorous uh with the community as to how much uh planning has gone into the septic field

[0:48:07] Voice 17: and the handling of grey water and people effluent and as a physician a retired physician i am

[0:48:15] Voice 17: concerned about that for neighboring properties and i think at a higher elevation you could

[0:48:21] probably put those concerns aside and i i guess the public

[0:48:29] Voice 17: health sewage act is the one thing that

[0:48:32] Voice 17: i would like addressed by this committee and i guess my other five comments are in the binder

[0:48:42] Voice 17: trustees have read them and i think planning wise the most important one that i might just sort of

[0:48:48] flight is

[0:48:49] Voice 17: uh there is a corridor from the north island to the south island along the east shore

[0:48:56] Voice 17: plan uh nothing definite but for me travel up the slope on georgia view is a gradual increase

[0:49:06] Voice 17: on that east corridor and if you're going to build there you're going to have a very noisy

[0:49:12] Voice 17: corridor in the future maybe not now maybe not 10 years maybe not 20 years but

[0:49:17] Voice 17: But I think there has to be some thought into planning here.

[0:49:21] Voice 17: And my two big points are that and the public health aspect.

[0:49:26] Voice 17: And I just think it needs to be at a higher elevation.

[0:49:28] Voice 17: And I support it.

[0:49:29] Voice 17: I think we have to get moving.

[0:49:31] Voice 17: Costs are going up.

[0:49:32] Voice 17: Anyway, thank you for the time.

[0:49:33] Voice 17: Thank you, Mr. O'Connor.

[0:49:42] Voice 21: Yeah.

[0:49:43] Voice 21: I

[0:50:03] Voice 18: have two submissions, which I know I won't have time to read in four minutes.

[0:50:08] Voice 18: And as one of the trustees that wrote the forestry bylaws, I ask you to read them.

[0:50:15] Voice 18: So I'll just pursue what I have in there.

[0:50:17] Voice 18: Sure.

[0:50:17] Voice 18: And

[0:50:17] Voice 10: I will assure you I have it.

[0:50:22] Voice 18: First, I'd like to speak to the domino effect of approving proposed bylaws 276 and 277.

[0:50:30] Voice 18: The proposed bylaw application is for DL 30 and 31.

[0:50:34] Voice 18: The application does not include the Heritage Forest on DL 32 or amending the Heritage Forest

[0:50:42] Voice 18: Covenant on DL 32, but the proposed rezoning application if approved will affect the covenant

[0:50:49] Voice 18: on DL 32.

[0:50:51] Voice 18: The precedent made if the proposed bylaws are approved leaves the owner applicant of

[0:50:57] Voice 18: the heritage forest dl32 the ability to make another application to supply subdivide land

[0:51:04] Voice 18: for affordable housing and the density set out in the proposed bylaws before you today 276 and 277

[0:51:14] Voice 18: 12 dwellings on two hectares so really this proposed rezoning application before you is

[0:51:20] Voice 18: silently set up to create 24 or more dwellings uh

[0:51:25] Voice 23: i

[0:51:26] Voice 18: say more because the owner applicant states

[0:51:28] Voice 18: in the application the galliano club has designated uh 18.6 acres for affordable rental housing

[0:51:37] Voice 18: in my second letter i can i'm concerned with planning for the forest zone i was in my first

[0:51:43] Voice 18: 22. uh the lct has received from the forest law owners separately both an offer from richard

[0:51:50] Voice 18: dewinnets and also an application for residential development of course one lands neither offer nor

[0:51:58] Voice 18: application includes a provision for gifting land for affordable housing the offer is silent on

[0:52:05] Voice 18: gifting land for affordable housing the new application is dependent on a land use mechanism

[0:52:11] Voice 18: called amenity zoning.

[0:52:13] Voice 18: For an LTC to introduce amenity zoning,

[0:52:17] Voice 18: the Local Government Act mandates there be a base zoning

[0:52:21] Voice 18: of a residence to a lot already in place.

[0:52:25] Voice 18: For this reason, the LTC that created the four zone bylaws

[0:52:30] Voice 18: did not, myself, did not choose to follow

[0:52:33] Voice 18: the amenity zoning model of land use planning,

[0:52:35] Voice 18: but created the heritage forest option instead,

[0:52:39] Voice 18: an option that required gifting of land as a concession condition to residential density

[0:52:45] Voice 18: by keeping the forest one zone with no residential use unless rezoned the rltc understood that if we

[0:52:55] Voice 18: followed the amenity zoning model and gave f1 a residence to 20 acres as the forest lot owners

[0:53:01] Voice 18: demonstrated they wanted in their surveyed lot lines and plas there would be no incentive for

[0:53:08] Voice 18: the flos to reapply for amenity zoning for affordable housing and community facilities

[0:53:14] Voice 18: let me be precise the incentive is there but many many years away when the forest lot owners

[0:53:21] Voice 18: eventually want a density

[0:53:22] Voice 18: even greater than a residence to 20 acres bringing more residential

[0:53:27] Voice 18: development of the forest land as community pressure bills for increased affordable housing

[0:53:32] Voice 18: and other community facility needs and wants.

[0:53:36] Voice 18: Introducing amenity zoning would create

[0:53:38] Voice 18: immediate residential density on a massive scale

[0:53:41] Voice 18: in the largest land use zone in the OCP

[0:53:45] Voice 18: before any application was received for affordable housing.

[0:53:50] Voice 18: I asked you, the Galleano Local Trust Committee,

[0:53:54] Voice 18: to reflect on the existing plan to preserve

[0:53:57] Voice 18: a forest land base under the Islands Trust Act

[0:54:03] Voice 18: I ask that you do not accrue bylaws 276 and 277.

[0:54:07] Voice 23: Thank you.

[0:54:21] Voice 23: Craig Keating is next.

[0:54:23] Voice 11: And then after Mr. Keating, we have Jeff Inverarder.

[0:54:29] Voice 11: Thank you very much.

[0:54:31] Voice 14: My name is Craig Keating.

[0:54:32] Voice 14: I'm at 15416 Allison Road.

[0:54:35] Voice 14: First off, I want to join others in thanking both trustees for doing this

[0:54:40] Voice 14: to last for that year.

[0:54:41] Voice 14: It's been a lot of hard work.

[0:54:42] Voice 14: And as we used to say about our cars, a lot of work for the money.

[0:54:45] Voice 14: So I think we put a lot of effort into it.

[0:54:48] Voice 14: My comments today would simply urge in relationship to the issues that are before us to have, on one hand, caution, on the other hand, boldness.

[0:54:56] Voice 14: In terms of the caution, I would say that for no fault of the proponents, and hats off to them for tackling this issue as well,

[0:55:05] Voice 14: what is before us now, especially through the housing agreement that's being proposed, is really simply market rental housing.

[0:55:12] Voice 14: it is not particularly affordable uh the formula that's been proposed which says 30

[0:55:17] Voice 14: of median income is the base rent for the affordable housing means that you would pay

[0:55:21] Voice 14: upwards of two thousand dollars for something like a 421 square foot one bedroom rental

[0:55:27] Voice 14: i don't think that looks a lot like portability it's certainly far different than what was being

[0:55:32] Voice 14: proposed initially when the lcc gave directions staff to proceed with this uh processing this

[0:55:38] Voice 14: application um so i think given that difference what i would suggest is even if you do choose

[0:55:45] Voice 14: to vote that third reading in favor of this proposal i would not proceed to final adoption

[0:55:52] Voice 14: and the ratification of the housing agreement until you actually until there is senior government

[0:55:59] Voice 14: funding or outside agency funding to really deliver the affordability that was initially

[0:56:03] Voice 14: actually implied in these units here.

[0:56:06] Voice 14: And I think there is that opportunity.

[0:56:08] Voice 14: Proponents have suggested in their correspondence

[0:56:10] Voice 14: that what they want is a clear signal

[0:56:12] Voice 14: to the club-side funding agencies

[0:56:14] Voice 14: that there is favor in the committee for this,

[0:56:17] Voice 14: but certainly I think you can stall this at third reading,

[0:56:20] Voice 14: let it sit at third reading,

[0:56:21] Voice 14: and still lose the opportunity

[0:56:22] Voice 14: to negotiate a housing agreement

[0:56:24] Voice 14: that will in fact deliver not simply market rental housing,

[0:56:27] Voice 14: but affordable housing on this site.

[0:56:29] Voice 14: I will join others who have spoken today

[0:56:31] Voice 14: and suggesting that you should be bold in trying to unleash the potential of market

[0:56:37] Voice 14: rental housing on on galvanized land and i think at least three measures can do this one would be

[0:56:44] Voice 14: to have the outright permissibility on any residential lot on the islands of secondary

[0:56:48] Voice 14: suites tiny homes or coach houses that should be an outright allowable use which will create all

[0:56:53] Voice 14: sorts of rental housing in areas of closeness services you could have density in exchange for

[0:57:00] Voice 14: purpose-built rental housing you could also have greater subdivision of lots which is kind of

[0:57:05] Voice 14: restriction in exchange for market rental housing all of these would be mechanisms to deliver the

[0:57:10] Voice 14: rental housing people have said we need and quite correctly said that we need here all of those

[0:57:14] Voice 14: places would also have the advantage of occurring those rental developments would occur on land

[0:57:20] Voice 14: that is already developed and is not subject to other policies such as being part of the

[0:57:25] Voice 14: community courts so i think there is a tough decision before you i think there's options to

[0:57:31] Voice 14: uh to ensure that what you want to achieve which is not only rental housing but affordable

[0:57:37] Voice 14: real estate housing occurs at this point but i think generally speaking there is the opportunity

[0:57:43] Voice 14: through some easy measures that the local trust committee could take to open up the opportunity

[0:57:48] Voice 14: to deliver rental housing that is so desperately needed in many many places throughout the island

[0:57:52] Voice 14: And that's a point that's been made by the speakers.

[0:57:55] Voice 14: Again, I want to thank you for the tough decision you have to make.

[0:57:58] Voice 14: I have to speak to speak and run, but I do.

[0:58:02] Voice 14: Good work in your decision today.

[0:58:03] Voice 14: Good luck in your decision.

[0:58:04] Voice 14: But I am going to speak and run.

[0:58:06] Voice 14: Thank you

[0:58:07] Voice 11: very much for the opportunity.

[0:58:08] Voice 11: Thanks for your commentary.

[0:58:13] Voice 12: Chair Inverarty and then Dave Crosby.

[0:58:23] Voice 3: My name is Jeff Inverarty.

[0:58:32] Voice 3: I'd like to support this project. I was on the board of Giggers for two years, no longer

[0:58:37] Voice 3: am, so I'm speaking as a private person, and I want to acknowledge the dedication, the

[0:58:44] Voice 3: thousands of hours and scrupulous attention to detail that the Giggers board itself, Giggers

[0:58:50] Voice 3: is a legal team. They're highly professional, non-profit development consultants who provide

[0:58:55] Voice 3: projects. Our local trust committee and the Islands Trust staff have put into this

[0:59:00] Voice 3: rezoning application. As enormous expense to the community and to the Islands Trust,

[0:59:06] Voice 3: experts in law, hydrology, water management, and septic engineering have been consulted at every

[0:59:12] Voice 3: stage of this long process. It's been deeply inspiring to see the community come together

[0:59:19] Voice 3: together to support GIGRs with tens of thousands of dollars in donations and

[0:59:24] Voice 3: countless volunteer hours. This has gone on far too long.

[0:59:30] Voice 3: As the slogan on the landing page of the

[0:59:33] Voice 3: Senat development website says, the world is full of too much talk and too little

[0:59:38] Voice 3: action. Most importantly, and this is something

[0:59:43] Voice 3: we must never ever lose sight of, my sincere wish and hope, which I share,

[0:59:48] Voice 3: I believe, with the majority of the Galliano community is that one day neighbors will reach

[0:59:55] Voice 3: out to neighbors in a spirit of mutual respect, generosity.

[1:00:00] Voice 3: compassion, and support. A day in the future when families, seniors, and individuals will

[1:00:08] Voice 3: thrive together, sharing rides, sharing childcare, sharing eldercare, in a true community in

[1:00:18] Voice 3: a forest. With that in mind, let's get this done today.

[1:00:22] Voice 3: say. And

[1:00:33] Voice 11: then I'm going to go online

[1:00:35] Voice 11: to Mr. Wall.

[1:00:38] Voice 11: I

[1:00:39] Voice 16: just encourage trustees to move forward with this

[1:00:48] Voice 16: application. I'm strongly supportive. It's not a this is

[1:00:54] Voice 16: not a want for the community. This is as a business owner on

[1:00:59] Voice 16: galeano like many other business owners a hard time finding people to work that come from just

[1:01:08] because there's no rental i think we've learned

[1:01:11] Voice 16: in the past that other other solutions like creating

[1:01:18] Voice 16: guest cottages on land and creating secondary suites isn't the answer because those those guest

[1:01:24] Voice 16: cottages and those secondary suites are turned into air vehicles until we take this out of the

[1:01:29] Voice 16: hands of private landowners and put it into something that is a that is an organization

[1:01:35] Voice 16: that's strictly running rental affordable housing we're not going to go away from that thank you

[1:01:44] Voice 16: just

[1:01:49] Voice 11: been said alfred wall thank

[1:01:53] Voice 26: you be able to unmute yourself now go ahead sir i think i'm

[1:01:58] Voice 26: I'm muted. My name is Alfred Wall. Yes, I can hear you. Go

[1:02:02] Voice 26: ahead. All right. Hello, and thank you for

[1:02:06] Voice 26: taking my call. My name is Alfred Wall, owner of Lot 7 on Stix Allison Road. I am also an original

[1:02:14] Voice 26: member of the development company that developed the strata subdivision and donated the said lands

[1:02:20] Voice 26: to create the heritage forest currently under discussion. The lands originally donated by our

[1:02:27] Voice 26: company were donated with the intention of creating a in quotation mark heritage forest

[1:02:33] Voice 26: and not intended for a large residential development currently proposed certain covenants

[1:02:39] Voice 26: were placed on the lands to preserve these lands for their intended use as a community forest with

[1:02:46] Voice 26: certain very restrictive residential uses allowed the proposed use currently under consideration

[1:02:53] Voice 26: contravenes these covenants which were in place in perpetuity makes me wonder

[1:03:00] Voice 26: what perpetuity actually means had we as a development company known that this

[1:03:06] Voice 26: covenant could be changed without our consent or approval we would not have

[1:03:10] Voice 26: agreed to the donation of these lands I find it completely disingenuous

[1:03:15] Voice 26: irresponsible of the island trust to consider this proposed use and encourage

[1:03:20] Voice 26: the trust not to approve these bylaws surely to goodness there must be land close by in town

[1:03:27] Voice 26: to develop affordable housing thank you very much for the opportunity okay

[1:03:37] Voice 11: where was i uh

[1:03:39] Voice 11: anita braha calling doji afternoon

[1:03:51] Voice 18: my name is anita braha the 231 active pass drive we've been

[1:03:57] Voice 18: on this island in one form or another since 1998. I want to speak in favor of the trustees approving

[1:04:05] Voice 18: these bylaws. The first thing I want to say is also to give my thanks to the trustees and to the

[1:04:14] Voice 18: Board of Gapers and many others before them that have done so much work to develop affordable

[1:04:20] Voice 18: housing on this island. I am in favor of purpose-built rental housing, which is what this

[1:04:29] Voice 18: proposal suggests. And I want to say that as a human rights lawyer, there's another angle to this

[1:04:39] Voice 18: for me, which is that one aspect of dignity, it seems to me, is the provision of safe and secure

[1:04:49] Voice 18: housing and that's what this proposal provides it seems to me that people have a right to safe and

[1:04:58] Voice 18: secure housing in addition to the pragmatic aspects that people have already talked about

[1:05:04] Voice 18: which are of course to provide housing for people who need to work on this island so again I want

[1:05:15] to support

[1:05:15] Voice 18: the uh the bylaws that are before you and i ask you to move ahead with that thank you

[1:05:23] Voice 23: thank you good afternoon

[1:05:31] Voice 18: my name is paulie jody i live at 654 borough road on piano

[1:05:36] Voice 18: my family and i moved here my husband and two kids we moved here in 2013 and we now have three

[1:05:43] Voice 18: generations of our family living on galliano before we moved here we lived in east van my

[1:05:50] Voice 18: husband and two kids and i was aware in the early 2000s of the heritage forest ocp zoning of

[1:05:58] Voice 18: district lots 30 and 31 was well known and like i said i knew about it even before we moved here

[1:06:04] Voice 18: and i was inspired and greatly admired the potential allocation or the small percentage

[1:06:13] Voice 18: percentage of allocation that was part of that heritage forest OCP at that time.

[1:06:22] Voice 18: So this current rezoning of giggers has been described by some as an emotional issue.

[1:06:29] Voice 18: And I would like to correct that by saying it's actually an existential issue.

[1:06:34] Voice 18: It's about having dignity as the former speaker has mentioned.

[1:06:39] Voice 18: It's about a fundamental human right.

[1:06:41] Voice 18: and we need to look after each other in this community and the greater needs the catastrophic

[1:06:49] Voice 18: needs for housing overweighing inconvenience wanting a flat surface for a road so looking

[1:07:01] Voice 18: after each other is critical we've heard today that there has been a lack of transparency about

[1:07:07] Voice 18: septic analysis however i encourage people to read the reports online from our septic engineers who've

[1:07:16] Voice 18: done a feasibility study we've had the uh walk site and i think i'm going to end there but in

[1:07:25] Voice 18: case it hasn't been abundantly clear with my volunteer work for the society givers over the

[1:07:31] Voice 18: last three years um please move forward i support the bylaws as drafted and thank you all for the

[1:07:37] Voice 18: the time and investment in this project thank

[1:07:41] Voice 23: you speaker

[1:07:47] Voice 12: is uh barb green

[1:07:49] Voice 12: afternoon

[1:07:50] Voice 23: my

[1:08:01] Voice 18: name is barb grahan i'm at a 574 gulf drive and mark five years on island so i'm

[1:08:06] Voice 18: starting my sixth year as a full-time resident um i'm also starting uh fourth year doing a deep

[1:08:15] Voice 18: dive into affordable rental housing issues on this island and what needs to happen in order to

[1:08:24] Voice 18: move projects forward and i learned a couple of things that i

[1:08:29] Voice 18: i know you know but i just like to highlight one is that if you don't have land you don't get money

[1:08:37] Voice 18: so unless this rezoning goes through um there there won't be money available to do it

[1:08:47] Voice 18: um so it's a critical um a factor in in getting uh funding from the government or any other kind

[1:08:57] Voice 18: of affordable housing funder it's also true that if you don't have rezoning you will not

[1:09:03] Voice 18: get substantial money they will give you jerks and drafts under pre-development funding but

[1:09:09] Voice 18: as you well know as trustees if if you don't have the rezoning the big dollars that allow you to

[1:09:16] Voice 18: actually build are not there so for those who say um you know get their uh money and then get

[1:09:26] Voice 18: the rezoning it doesn't work like that um if indeed there is uh as uh somewhat positive

[1:09:35] Voice 18: climate change crisis coming and i think there probably is uh whether it will arrive tomorrow

[1:09:42] Voice 18: or not i don't know but even if it does arrive tomorrow i would vote in favor of having some

[1:09:47] Voice 18: some social justice while we're all waiting to get inundated with tsunamis or whatever.

[1:09:55] Voice 18: And for me, social justice on Galliano involves having places that the people who make our

[1:10:02] Voice 18: community work and make it a vibrant and wonderful place to live, that they too have

[1:10:09] Voice 18: a place to stay.

[1:10:10] Voice 18: I am motivated to be involved in this by being aware of school-age children who are living in substandard housing, who have to put up with mold in their bedrooms and the disruption that happens to their family life when they don't have secure housing and they can't go to school.

[1:10:35] Voice 18: being able to focus on their education and learning when their housing

[1:10:42] Voice 18: is threatened by you know having to move out because summer's coming and you know the place

[1:10:50] Voice 18: needs to be available for the family who lives there or it's being a short-term vacation rental

[1:10:56] Voice 18: so i would really urge the trustees to approve this project to move it forward so that once we

[1:11:04] Voice 18: have the rezoning in place that the bigger society can go forward to the uh the industry sector

[1:11:13] Voice 18: funders and say we have the rezoning we've got the approval of our community

[1:11:18] Voice 18: we need the money to build this and put it in place thank you and now

[1:11:40] Voice 18: So just to put my comments in context, I'd just like to start by saying that I have served

[1:11:50] Voice 18: 14 terms as a trustee for LEL, three terms as a member of the executive, and also served

[1:11:57] Voice 18: as the chair of the Honours Trust Conservancy.

[1:11:59] Voice 18: I understand the Honours Trust mandate.

[1:12:01] Voice 18: I understand its responsibilities and its processes.

[1:12:04] Voice 18: I am generally not supportive of initiatives that increase density, but I do fully support this one.

[1:12:11] Voice 18: I have three comments to make. I won't take a lot of your time.

[1:12:16] Voice 18: I'm really quite nervous that I have a little PTSD issue going on with the Highlands Trust, so forgive me.

[1:12:25] Voice 18: People in this room don't understand.

[1:12:26] Voice 18: So my first comment is that I've reviewed the draft bylaws and I've read all the reports

[1:12:34] Voice 18: and I've gone through everything.

[1:12:35] Voice 18: I've really taken some time with this and I'm satisfied that all of the island stress

[1:12:39] Voice 18: requirements have been met.

[1:12:41] Voice 18: I think that a remarkable job has been done in meeting a lot of hurdles.

[1:12:46] Voice 18: My second point is that for many years, Galeano tried to address its affordable housing challenges

[1:12:52] Voice 18: by providing a benefit to property owners.

[1:12:55] Voice 18: This was done by twice increasing the size of secondary dwellings and also permitting

[1:13:01] Voice 18: secondary suites in some places.

[1:13:03] Voice 18: That doesn't work.

[1:13:05] Voice 18: Very many, if not most, of those cottages and suites are now used for short-term vacation

[1:13:10] Voice 18: rentals.

[1:13:11] Voice 18: They are not filling the gap that we need filled.

[1:13:14] Voice 18: This kind of solution simply cannot address the problem.

[1:13:18] Voice 18: To be useful and sustainable in the long term, affordable housing needs to be a benefit to

[1:13:23] Voice 18: the community not to individual landlords this proposal creates a significant and sustainable

[1:13:30] Voice 18: community plan my third point is that there's not just one kind of affordable housing resident

[1:13:37] Voice 18: and as far as i'm concerned any place that is suitable for housing is suitable for affordable

[1:13:42] Voice 18: housing um there was a time not so long ago that there was no housing in the area at all

[1:13:49] Voice 18: where where this proposal is and some of us were very sad to see that neighborhood development built

[1:13:55] Voice 18: the trees cut down the land self-dividing the strata title built they may have said but we

[1:14:00] Voice 18: got used to it and those people are now our needs um the fact is that the neighbors to this proposal

[1:14:09] Voice 18: think that this is a great place to live so if it's a great place for them to live it's a great

[1:14:14] Voice 18: place for people that don't have as much money as they have

[1:14:16] Voice 21: honestly

[1:14:18] Voice 18: i think that um that i just

[1:14:23] Voice 18: want to say it again any place that is suitable for housing is suitable for affordable housing

[1:14:28] Voice 18: and if the honest trust conditions are met with respect to um it being a suitable location for

[1:14:34] Voice 18: housing which they seem to have been then it's a suitable location for affordable housing that's

[1:14:39] Voice 18: really all i need to say other than i really want to express my appreciation to the galliano club

[1:14:44] Voice 18: and affordable housing societies for persevering and for you for going through this this is a big

[1:14:49] Voice 18: job i know i also know that the next affordable housing site that's going to be brought to the

[1:14:54] Voice 18: community is directly next door to my house on friday pass group and i just want to say that

[1:14:59] Voice 18: i will stand up and support that one as well thank you very much thank

[1:15:06] Voice 21: you i'm followed by

[1:15:30] Voice 18: Chair Rogers and Trustee Rockefeller, thank you for the opportunity to speak in favor

[1:15:39] Voice 18: of the additional donors.

[1:15:41] Voice 18: Champions of the environment, including Greta Thunberg, Elizabeth May, and many in our own

[1:15:46] Voice 18: community, including Galliano Conservancy, know that addressing social inequity is a

[1:15:51] Voice 18: big part of addressing our climate crisis.

[1:15:54] Voice 18: Each has a direct effect on the other.

[1:15:56] Voice 18: many people have noted that this is that it is the very people who serve us who are inadequately

[1:16:03] Voice 18: housed on galley island but this isn't entirely true in a holistic well-functioning society

[1:16:09] Voice 18: we all serve each other restaurant servers mechanics hardware store employees business

[1:16:16] Voice 18: people carpenters doctors firefighters artists teachers scientists volunteers

[1:16:22] Voice 18: Volunteers, grocers, writers, ferry employees, from deckhands to captains, the list goes on.

[1:16:29] Voice 18: But we don't live in a meritocracy.

[1:16:32] Voice 18: Many of these people get paid very well for what they do.

[1:16:36] Voice 18: Others poorly or not at all.

[1:16:41] Voice 18: But one thing we all have in common is that we each need a home.

[1:16:45] Voice 18: And that's true for our children and grandchildren who grow up to fill these roles.

[1:16:50] Voice 18: and our grandparents elders and others in the community who may or may not be able to serve

[1:16:56] Voice 18: the rest of us in visible ways we all need housing that is affordable for us appropriate

[1:17:02] Voice 18: for our household and abilities and housing that is secure the big question is where should it be

[1:17:10] Voice 18: built environmental science tells us that higher density is best for the environment

[1:17:16] Voice 18: Building and living more closely to each other requires less fragmentation of our natural world.

[1:17:21] Voice 18: It allows the sharing of infrastructure, fosters community, encourages carpooling, car sharing,

[1:17:28] Voice 18: and the sharing of trips and errands, and causes less overall burden on the land.

[1:17:35] Voice 18: A member of the Galliano Conservancy once said to me that the best thing we could do for the

[1:17:39] Voice 18: environment would be to build a high-rise by the ferry and all move there, living the rest

[1:17:43] Voice 18: of the world untouched joking aside we need a balanced approach people who live on the gulf

[1:17:50] Voice 18: islands treasure living in an in and alongside nature which fosters health well-being and quality

[1:17:56] Voice 18: of life no one wants a high rise on galiana we will need a variety of housing options to suit

[1:18:03] Voice 18: different households clustered homes in different locations will each have their own attributes and

[1:18:10] Voice 18: and challenges. Some people want to live within walking distance

[1:18:13] Voice 18: of community amenities and not be dependent on a car. But most

[1:18:18] Voice 18: of our under house on Galeano already have a car and use it to

[1:18:22] Voice 18: get to work. Most of them would love the opportunity to live

[1:18:26] Voice 18: adjacent to the community forest with its many walking trails,

[1:18:29] Voice 18: including to the shore, as others are lucky enough to do.

[1:18:34] Voice 18: Is this the perfect place for affordable housing? Is there a

[1:18:38] Voice 18: the perfect place for affordable housing it has been said that perfection is the enemy of good

[1:18:45] Voice 18: the georgia view site located on a publicly dedicated road adjacent to hydro and phone

[1:18:51] Voice 18: services in an area now served by our school bus and local internet co-op with its abundant

[1:18:58] Voice 18: groundwater supply and set on a beautiful backdrop of the community forest is an excellent location

[1:19:05] Voice 18: for Giggers Clustered Housing.

[1:19:07] Voice 18: I'm satisfied in the results of all of the tests done to date

[1:19:11] Voice 18: to ensure that Giggers is moving ahead

[1:19:15] Voice 18: in a rational and safe and sustainable way.

[1:19:19] Voice 18: I urge you to approve Giggers Rezoning Application

[1:19:21] Voice 18: for the Georgia View location

[1:19:23] Voice 18: so Giggers can get to work raising the funds

[1:19:26] Voice 18: to build these much-needed homes for our community.

[1:19:38] Voice 21: Carol Gwynn.

[1:19:41] Voice 18: My name is Carol Gwynn, and I live at Unit 8, 276 Jarvison Bay Road.

[1:19:48] Voice 18: I'm very fortunate to be a senior in accommodation that is affordable.

[1:19:56] Voice 18: That's where the far southern was in the 70s.

[1:19:59] Voice 18: I want to say that I am definitely in favor of this project.

[1:20:05] Voice 18: I believe that we are a viable community.

[1:20:09] Voice 18: We need to have diversity, whether it's in income,

[1:20:12] Voice 18: or whatever, to mention a few.

[1:20:17] Voice 18: And also, I believe that this is a good balance

[1:20:21] Voice 18: between human needs and the environment.

[1:20:25] Voice 18: And Eliano is in for that, but I do want to say

[1:20:29] Voice 18: I am definitely in favor, and it's very far-sighted.

[1:20:32] Voice 18: And thank you all for all the hard work

[1:20:34] Voice 18: that everyone's done to get this far.

[1:20:42] Voice 11: there's one other person with their hand up online which is someone from the galliano

[1:20:48] Voice 11: conservancy so we can go there if there's anybody

[1:20:49] Voice 11: else online that wishes to speak

[1:20:52] Voice 11: please put your hand up now as well so if we can go ahead whoever that is please identify yourself

[1:21:03] Voice 25: hello my name is chesi melner i i'd like to speak as the executive director of the galliano

[1:21:08] Voice 25: Conservancy Association, one of the two organizations, the other being Habitat Acquisition

[1:21:12] Voice 25: Trust, who hold the covenants on the remainders of DL 3031 and DL 32, known collectively as the

[1:21:19] Voice 25: Community Forest, which is owned by the Galliano Club. I live at 211 Guston Road, and the Galliano

[1:21:23] Voice 25: Conservancy is based at 10825 Corley Pass Road. Firstly, I'd like to say that we are administering

[1:21:30] Voice 25: the covenants based on the best information at our disposal, as informed by our own due

[1:21:33] Voice 25: diligence records and understanding, and I will elaborate on that momentarily. Neither the

[1:21:38] Voice 25: Galliano Conservancy Association nor Habitat Acquisition Trust are supporters or opponents

[1:21:43] Voice 25: of the project. It would be inappropriate for many reasons for our organizations to take a

[1:21:47] Voice 25: position on this project, and we clearly recognize that the question of subdivision and land use is

[1:21:51] Voice 25: an issue of local governance. However, what the covenant allows and doesn't allow, as well as the

[1:21:56] Voice 25: positions of the Galliano Conservancy and Habitat Acquisition Trust, have been misrepresented by

[1:22:01] Voice 25: both proponents and opponents of this project. I'd like to clarify that the conservation covenants

[1:22:06] Voice 25: to expressly reserve the right of the owner the galliano club to subdivide the land in accordance

[1:22:11] Voice 25: with section 4.1 g of the ocp of the day the section no longer exists in the current ocp

[1:22:17] Voice 25: however it is directly quoted in the covenant a conflict in the wording of of that quote

[1:22:23] Voice 25: currently or would prevent any such subdivision from going forward in a manner unintended and

[1:22:28] Voice 25: unanticipated by the original authors of the covenant as such we agreed in principle at the

[1:22:34] Voice 25: request of the galleon above to resolve this conflict in wording and to allow for the potential

[1:22:39] Voice 25: to create a single and repeat a single small affordable housing lot of two hectares the

[1:22:45] Voice 25: conflict of in wording has been repeatedly misquoted the one percent maximum area refers

[1:22:50] Voice 25: to the total area of f1 lands being rezoned to rural residential and heritage forests

[1:22:56] Voice 25: which on district block 30 31 and 32 totals 161 hectares not the resulting heritage forest lands

[1:23:02] Voice 25: which total 126 hectares the decision that the covenant holders have made ensures consistency

[1:23:11] Voice 25: with the commitments made by their boards in 2005 when the covenants were registered and in 2008

[1:23:16] Voice 25: when the management plan for the community forest lands were first was first drafted that management

[1:23:23] Voice 25: plan did identify the area where the current proposal is located as a reasonable location

[1:23:31] Voice 25: for an affordable housing lot.

[1:23:36] Voice 25: This decision does not constitute explicit support

[1:23:39] Voice 25: for any specific affordable housing initiative,

[1:23:41] Voice 25: this one or another, and recognizes again

[1:23:43] Voice 25: that the creation of such a lot resides solely

[1:23:45] Voice 25: under the authority of the Islands Trust

[1:23:46] Voice 25: and the Ministry of Transportation and Infrastructure.

[1:23:50] Voice 25: But I will say very explicitly

[1:23:52] Voice 25: that no additional affordable housing lot

[1:23:56] Voice 25: would be permitted under the covenant.

[1:23:58] Voice 25: So there was a statement that perhaps the second one

[1:24:02] Voice 25: could be created on DL 32,

[1:24:03] Voice 25: to unless more community forest land is created will never occur thank you thank you sir

[1:24:11] Voice 11: i'm

[1:24:14] Voice 11: sorry could you repeat your name it was sort of blurry at the beginning so that our recorder could

[1:24:18] Voice 25: get it sorry i just said to unmute again my my name is chesi miltner thank you very much more

[1:24:26] Voice 25: for the

[1:24:26] Voice 11: reporter than anything else thank you very

[1:24:28] Voice 11: much uh mike hobel and then diane willie

[1:24:57] Voice 8: Yeah, I'll be quite brief on a lot of what I would like to have said that it's already

[1:25:02] been well said, but I'll just reinforce many, many people, almost everybody holds that there's

[1:25:11] a critical lack of affordable, secure, appropriate level housing on the Atlanta.

[1:25:17] And it's actually reached a crisis level for a few years.

[1:25:21] So I think that's, I think we all almost all would agree with that situation.

[1:25:28] That situation's been very thoroughly documented in housing needs assessments.

[1:25:34] But we don't really need those to know the situation.

[1:25:38] I think we all personally know people who have been displaced because of this housing crisis.

[1:25:46] We all know families that raise their children on this island, and those children are disabled.

[1:25:57] Voice 8: This really is a situation that I think we all do find deep down unacceptable.

[1:26:04] Something has to be done.

[1:26:07] done so the proposal from vigors to develop 12 units of affordable rental housing on five acres

[1:26:14] of

[1:26:14] Voice 11: the community forest land that is owned by the galliano club has been very well researched

[1:26:22] very well planned thanks to it's already been mentioned over the times to the hard work

[1:26:27] for a volunteer board of Galliano Friends & Acres.

[1:26:33] So they are to be congratulated and thanked.

[1:26:37] I

[1:26:37] Voice 11: think we all appreciate the effort.

[1:26:41] The Guinness project will be an important step,

[1:26:43] but only the first step towards addressing

[1:26:47] this rental housing crisis

[1:26:49] Voice 8: on Galliano.

[1:26:50] Voice 8: You will hear from another project

[1:26:53] Voice 8: that I'm working on as well,

[1:26:55] Voice 8: I hope in due course.

[1:26:58] but both of these projects are not going to fully address the crisis so this community

[1:27:03] has a lot of work ahead of it

[1:27:05] Voice 16: to to right a wrong i'm confident we will so i

[1:27:11] Voice 4: urge the

[1:27:13] local trust committee to approve

[1:27:14] Voice 4: the bylaws to amend the oct and the land use bylaw to resume

[1:27:19] Voice 4: Zoom, this five-day group

[1:27:20] Voice 16: parcel, or affordable rental house.

[1:27:23] Voice 16: Thank you.

[1:27:24] Voice 21: Thank you, Mr. Hall.

[1:27:26] Voice 23: Diana Lilly.

[1:27:30] Voice 21: Good afternoon.

[1:27:36] Voice 18: Hi, Diana Lilly, 174 Morganburg.

[1:27:41] Voice 18: I urge you to accept this proposal.

[1:27:44] Voice 18: I lived in a housing co-op in Vancouver for more than 20 years.

[1:27:51] Voice 18: And I see this model has been very similar to the original co-op model, and it works.

[1:28:00] Voice 18: I see so many people who came to the co-op who had very, very little money.

[1:28:07] Voice 18: In the United States, we had lots of subsidies for parents of small children, and that

[1:28:13] Voice 18: enabled them to get their education.

[1:28:15] Voice 18: patient we're also a diverse community in that co-op and i see the same the same possibility

[1:28:23] Voice 18: in the model that's proposed here the other point i wanted to make is that as a retired nurse

[1:28:31] Voice 18: i have great thanksgivings about what is going to happen in the next few years without

[1:28:40] Voice 18: without fighting against COVID and all the day,

[1:28:44] Voice 18: but people have to try to survive in substantive housing.

[1:28:51] Voice 18: And also, we need to be very concerned about our ability

[1:28:59] Voice 18: to provide medical services in this current shortage of medical personnel.

[1:29:06] Voice 18: now so to have people continuing to live in substandard housing over the next few years and

[1:29:14] Voice 18: that as well as concerns about climate change this is an opportunity for you to improve safe

[1:29:22] Voice 18: affordable housing and i urge you to do it

[1:29:26] Voice 12: thank you very much um i see the reporter

[1:29:29] Voice 12: did

[1:29:30] Voice 11: you have a question actually

[1:29:32] Voice 29: it's a comment there is an awful lot of background noise

[1:29:37] Voice 29: happening that it's making it difficult for me to hear some of the speakers

[1:29:44] Voice 11: yeah i think it's the squeaky chair no

[1:29:47] Voice 29: there's actually some bumps and crashes and

[1:29:50] Voice 11: yeah there have been a few let's just everybody see if you need to do something and then let's

[1:29:56] Voice 11: i would

[1:29:57] Voice 29: appreciate it thank you

[1:29:58] Voice 11: Thanks, guys.

[1:30:00] Voice 11: appreciate that i'm hoping you're catching most of the things as well i have the list which i'll

[1:30:05] Voice 11: provide to you yeah

[1:30:06] Voice 29: you'll send me the list and if you could also give me a rough count of the

[1:30:09] Voice 29: numbers in the audience please

[1:30:11] Voice 11: oh i'm going to say there's 70. okay thank you is that

[1:30:15] Voice 11: 85 sorry and you can see the people online yes

[1:30:22] Voice 29: i can thank you

[1:30:25] Voice 11: yeah well we're actually almost through the list the first time so maybe yeah uh and then we'll

[1:30:32] Voice 11: take a quick break unless

[1:30:33] Voice 16: folks are over here i think you're right to finish the first list

[1:30:39] Voice 16: okay so

[1:30:41] Voice 11: after diana lilly was um roger paddock

[1:30:56] Voice 8: my farm at 222 vineyard way uh we'd be uh we are amongst the highest uh producing farms on this

[1:31:10] Voice 8: island but uh one of our big impediments this year other than the climate which has been

[1:31:21] Voice 8: unprecedented as far as this is the latest we've ever planted but one of the other things that

[1:31:27] Voice 8: affect us is the availability of farm workers and a couple weeks ago I lost my second farm worker

[1:31:41] Voice 8: so we're operating with one helper besides Lisa and ourselves and as a result we have

[1:31:49] Voice 8: have quite a bit less product growing and it's a shame, but that's the way it is.

[1:32:01] Voice 8: And but over the years, it's countless the number of workers that would have liked to

[1:32:11] Voice 8: work here on the island, but were unable to stay because there's no housing available.

[1:32:17] Voice 8: available. Always gets bad. If we grew in the winter, we'd be able to have all the help

[1:32:24] Voice 8: we could want. But in the summer, the housing supply dries up. And I just want to say that

[1:32:34] Voice 8: I've been supporting affordable housing on this island as long as I've been here. And

[1:32:39] Voice 8: I urge that you support this project and get us some. I know it's not going to solve my

[1:32:47] Voice 8: problems but it's uh it's going to give some people secure housing and that we really need

[1:32:54] Voice 8: thanks a lot okay

[1:32:56] Voice 12: uh living mcclellan followed by the lead orion and

[1:33:13] Voice 20: this says please approve

[1:33:14] Voice 20: the beavers rezoning application for you today my family has oh i live on ellisir

[1:33:22] Voice 20: thank you my family has been so fortunate to own a home live and work on galliano for 48 years

[1:33:29] Voice 20: we first arrived people with modest incomes could establish themselves here we've seen it become

[1:33:35] Voice 20: increasingly out of reach financially most of us do not want to become an exclusive gated type

[1:33:42] Voice 20: place for the financially independent people of all income levels need good housing and in these

[1:33:48] Voice 20: times that has led to a strong conscious organized effort such as put forward by gators the most

[1:33:57] Voice 20: important community services here are volunteer based and it's primarily the full-time residents

[1:34:02] Voice 20: who volunteer it's also these diverse residents who get the work done on the island uh speaking

[1:34:09] Voice 20: as a senior who still works but i think you understand what you mean um and it's also

[1:34:16] Voice 20: So yeah, okay, so often two to three jobs to make it viable,

[1:34:20] Voice 20: all need homes.

[1:34:22] Voice 20: On a different point around the environment,

[1:34:26] Voice 20: isn't it fantastic that folks living at the development

[1:34:29] Voice 20: will be surrounded by the regenerating working forest?

[1:34:33] Voice 20: Often in our society,

[1:34:35] Voice 20: an individual's greater financial stability

[1:34:39] Voice 20: gives greater control and therefore greater choice,

[1:34:44] Voice 20: including choice of living sites.

[1:34:46] Voice 20: Socially, this is a small-sized, island-sized example of environmental justice, where people

[1:34:55] Voice 20: of all types of income will be able to have that choice of living in a choice location,

[1:35:03] Voice 20: superb location.

[1:35:05] Voice 20: Especially for the children, now I've lost my place, for all ages, but especially for

[1:35:10] Voice 20: the children, they will learn just by living within the heritage forest and near the seashore.

[1:35:16] Voice 20: They will love it, they will respect it in terms of values, which will benefit all, humans,

[1:35:22] Voice 20: myriads of other animals, and plants.

[1:35:24] Voice 20: This is the type of base from which we'll grow our ability to grapple with the picture

[1:35:29] of climate change.

[1:35:30] Far from being a threat to the environment that I've heard a few local folks in protest

[1:35:36] claim, this is actually a win for the

[1:35:39] Voice 20: future of Galliano's community and forest ecology.

[1:35:43] Voice 20: Thank you.

[1:35:43] Voice 20: thank

[1:35:44] Voice 11: you very much uh louise o'brien and then they will have uh chico mh

[1:35:55] Voice 12: sorry mn sorry oh sorry that's fine um yes welcome i'm

[1:36:01] Voice 18: louise o'brien and i'm at uh 37 salamanca

[1:36:05] Voice 18: i've been uh very very very fortunate to have been able to buy in the last you know i think

[1:36:09] Voice 18: we've had about five years we've been here and uh we have two children my husband and i have

[1:36:15] Voice 18: children that are in their early 20s and we've been lucky enough to host some of their friends

[1:36:19] Voice 18: and two in particular come to mind that just fell in love with galliana but couldn't but can't

[1:36:25] Voice 18: leave here one girl wanted to has a degree in conservancy there was a job at galliana

[1:36:31] Voice 18: conservancy last year she felt she couldn't apply because she couldn't live here didn't find a place

[1:36:36] Voice 18: to live and she's a well-qualified highly trained wonderful girl the federal government snapped her

[1:36:41] Voice 18: up she's gone um another one is a young man who's 25 he's been evicted from this place because the

[1:36:49] Voice 18: owners want to sell that's fine he loves it here he works from home he has a he's working for a

[1:36:54] Voice 18: good company he wants to live here he'd love to live here and move here uh marry somebody have

[1:36:59] Voice 18: his children go to school get back to the economy buy from the store um contribute the economy i

[1:37:06] Voice 18: feel like our island is really lacking young people i feel like we have young people but

[1:37:10] Voice 18: is an aging community and i feel like it needs some vibrancy and it needs to be and those people

[1:37:15] Voice 18: are the ones that often do the service jobs and i just feel like if our selfishly speaking i want

[1:37:22] Voice 18: my children to want to come here and live here and and grow in this community they respect the

[1:37:27] Voice 18: environment they respect the forest they love it and they love the quiet and they are the next

[1:37:33] Voice 18: stewards of this land and i think that we need that we are aging and in order to attract people

[1:37:39] Voice 18: to this island we need to have a vibrant community so and i want to retire here too

[1:37:44] Voice 18: so it's also so thank you very much and of course i fully approve this and the next one

[1:38:08] Voice 12: My

[1:38:14] Voice 24: name is Tito Martin-Nenton. I'm 34 years old. And affordable housing has been a dream

[1:38:19] Voice 24: in the minds of islanders here for about as long as I've been alive. It was called Galliano

[1:38:24] Voice 24: of green originally my parents went on this island in the 70s at a dance in the town hall here and in

[1:38:30] Voice 24: 1988 they had me and starting from the time i was born affordable housing has been discussed debated

[1:38:37] Voice 24: and viciously opposed on this island we now see the results of that failure to implement that

[1:38:42] Voice 24: dream years back when the former owner of galliano's only propane station put the business

[1:38:47] Voice 24: up for sale that station was nearly very nearly reclaimed by the company that owns the tanks

[1:38:52] Voice 24: If not for a business owner graciously buying up the property at the last second before

[1:38:56] Voice 24: they could be reappropriated, we would not be able to get propane on this island.

[1:39:01] Voice 24: And we have seen the system of rentals and housing insecurity cost us our beloved corner

[1:39:06] Voice 24: store this year, with its owners raising the rates and its families seeing the writing

[1:39:09] Voice 24: on the wall, leaving no one to run it and shutting it down for an unprecedented amount

[1:39:14] Voice 24: of time.

[1:39:15] Voice 24: This year, every business I've seen that serves residents and visitors on this island are

[1:39:19] Voice 24: short-staffed and the children and grandchildren of small business owners are forced to take up the

[1:39:23] Voice 24: slack because there's no workers left all businesses are suffering as a result of the

[1:39:28] Voice 24: insipid sentiment can't we build it somewhere else and as a result housing bills are quiet

[1:39:39] Voice 11: hey just a second stop right now both of you sir you don't stop you i'll be asking you to sit down

[1:39:47] Voice 11: again. Can I please continue? But

[1:39:51] Voice 11: don't

[1:39:52] Voice 24: characterize other people's actions. The sentiment can be built

[1:39:56] Voice 24: somewhere else, as it resulted in houses built nowhere. Indeed, to my mind, the refrain can't

[1:40:02] Voice 24: be built somewhere else, as it resulted in the GIGS project in the first place, resettling the

[1:40:06] Voice 24: proposal for affordable housing in Georgia View, rather than the property bordering Page Drive,

[1:40:10] Voice 24: the original site of Galliano Green. Everyone wants affordable housing, but nobody wants to

[1:40:15] Voice 24: live near it and that's true of those we've elected to trust in addition to those opposing

[1:40:20] Voice 24: the project now gingers is not enough to save this island we need more housing period 12 properties

[1:40:26] Voice 24: to set aside for renters won't do enough to keep businesses from dying off wholesale on this island

[1:40:30] Voice 24: but it's a start in the right direction how are we going to protect this land if there's no one

[1:40:34] Voice 24: left to afford to live here who will be left aside from a number of people who won't even have gas

[1:40:39] Voice 24: stations medical facilities and courier services to give them the necessity to live here i'm tired

[1:40:44] Voice 24: of my own citizens and surrounding this project this island has had people leaving in droves for

[1:40:48] Voice 24: years and so my amanda my friends are gone without projects like this i will be gone too my dream of

[1:40:54] Voice 24: spending my life here close to my family here dead no more i need this project to happen now

[1:41:00] Voice 24: no more delays no more misinformation campaigns we need shells and hammers

[1:41:05] Voice 24: the benefits of affordable housing has been discussed and dreamed of this island for 35 years

[1:41:09] Voice 24: Let's not wait one more year to move on it. Thank you to kickers for helping this community survive

[1:41:23] Voice 11: I'm sorry. I can't read the first name. It's deflects we have win. I'm sorry

[1:41:39] Voice 18: My name is

[1:41:43] Voice 18: And I've been a wrench I was a renter here for six years before I had the privilege to buy a home

[1:41:51] Voice 18: And I've been a homeowner here for 20 years

[1:41:55] Voice 18: shortly after arriving to the island I got involved with the affordable housing

[1:41:58] Voice 18: initiative that was headed up at that point by Jane Rule so have been witnessing by either

[1:42:05] Voice 18: front lines or from the sidelines the long and grueling struggle that people have have referenced

[1:42:11] Voice 18: to try to get affordable housing and like other people have referenced lots of people say they're

[1:42:17] Voice 18: in support of it and yet it remains a dream and and not a reality as of yet so um most of the

[1:42:25] Voice 18: comments that i made are in my letter so i won't reiterate those but i did wanted to say something

[1:42:30] Voice 18: along the lines of some of what i've noticed about language and language matters so when we talk

[1:42:35] Voice 18: about this this as a large-scale development versus a community housing project it's a way

[1:42:42] Voice 18: dehumanizing it and exaggerating the scale and dehumanizing to people who would benefit from it

[1:42:48] Voice 18: these are just these little ways these rhetorical ways in which um the project gets devalued so when

[1:42:54] Voice 18: we talk about pristine forest versus a second or third growth land that has been clear-cut

[1:43:00] Voice 18: numerous times it's a way to make opposition to the project seem much more righteous than it might

[1:43:06] Voice 18: might be and also I guess something I heard just now reappropriating the phrase the n-word

[1:43:15] Voice 18: is a deeply offensive way to claim victim status and invoke sympathy of being bullied

[1:43:20] Voice 18: and it feels like it's a glaring symbol of the kind of entitlement that is fueling

[1:43:25] Voice 18: the attempt to stop

[1:43:26] Voice 11: this could I ask you to address the issue not the

[1:43:29] Voice 11: commentary in the

[1:43:30] Voice 11: community well

[1:43:31] Voice 18: i think that i think it's it's the way it's

[1:43:34] Voice 11: not what we're dealing with okay well

[1:43:37] Voice 18: i am i am going to just say that as part of the issue this is what i really want to say about

[1:43:43] Voice 18: language is uh about talking about how the community is split on this issue is misleading

[1:43:50] Voice 18: as a recent times columnist article reference and um that's it that makes it sound like it's

[1:43:56] Voice 18: two equal sides so on that note i think it's valuable to get a visual temperature gauge

[1:44:01] Voice 18: on the so-called split and i would call on everyone here we're

[1:44:05] Voice 11: not going to do this

[1:44:06] Voice 11: oh

[1:44:07] Voice 18: this is essentially you

[1:44:08] Voice 18: can people aren't going to say

[1:44:09] Voice 18: that okay we're

[1:44:11] Voice 11: going to have a

[1:44:11] Voice 11: public hearing where people come and address their thing we're not going to have people raise their

[1:44:16] Voice 11: hands and isolate people so i'm not going to do that i

[1:44:21] Voice 18: think i think we can see by the number

[1:44:22] Voice 18: the commentary

[1:44:23] Voice 11: from whoever was it before you that said it's overwhelmingly supportive i think

[1:44:28] Voice 11: that's a reality that's sorry it's not a reality let me be careful i think that's um a appropriate

[1:44:35] commentary okay but i'm not going to do a show of hands

[1:44:39] Voice 11: well

[1:44:42] Voice 18: anyway i do i do i think we can feel

[1:44:46] Voice 18: the support and that it's not a 50 50 split that it is overwhelmingly supportive and i would i would

[1:44:53] Voice 18: urge that the trustees i appreciate the work that's been done today and i urge you to some

[1:44:59] Voice 18: of the moral courage to actually be the first to actually get this project off the ground after

[1:45:04] Voice 18: 25 to 30 minutes of waiting sidelines

[1:45:10] Voice 11: with those two commenters that's the end of my list

[1:45:15] Voice 11: and i think oh i'm sorry there is someone online uh i apologize there was um

[1:45:23] Voice 11: Emma, I think it was Emma Davis, wasn't it?

[1:45:27] Voice 11: Can we mute?

[1:45:28] Voice 11: And then I'm going to take a brief break, and I'll explain what we're going to do then.

[1:45:33] Voice 28: Hi, Chair Rogers.

[1:45:34] Voice 28: Can you hear me?

[1:45:35] Voice 28: I can.

[1:45:35] Voice 28: Thank you.

[1:45:37] Voice 28: Great.

[1:45:37] Voice 28: Thank you.

[1:45:38] Voice 28: Thanks for giving me a moment to speak today.

[1:45:40] Voice 28: I've submitted comments.

[1:45:41] Voice 28: I'm Emma Davis.

[1:45:42] Voice 28: I'm at 715 Corlea, and I've submitted comments in writing throughout this process and won't

[1:45:46] Voice 28: repeat what I've said there.

[1:45:48] Voice 28: I just wanted to make two statements today, one to respond to the comments of ecological

[1:45:53] Voice 28: impact by just highlighting the consideration of density. The impact of single-family dwellings,

[1:45:58] Voice 28: each with their own amenities, and minimum tree clearing is always going to be more significant

[1:46:02] Voice 28: than multi-family dwellings. And as Joanne said, we don't want condos on Galliano, but this is an

[1:46:07] Voice 28: efficient, low-impact proposal that minimizes benefit and certainly wins out on my cost-benefit

[1:46:12] Voice 28: analysis. I also wanted to add that as the chair of Galliano's daycare committee, we have been in

[1:46:18] Voice 28: a search for an early childhood educator for months now. There are no qualified applicants

[1:46:23] Voice 28: on the island. We've been granted a temporary exception to the rules that have allowed us to

[1:46:30] Voice 28: run the daycare for the summer. But there are no qualified applicants on the island who are

[1:46:35] Voice 28: interested in the position, which is open as of September. So our only option is to hire someone

[1:46:41] Voice 28: who meets the criteria set for us by Island Health and the ministry. Our only option for that is to

[1:46:46] Voice 28: recruit from off island. The posting has been out across two provinces for months now. We have had

[1:46:52] Voice 28: no applicants and we are now seriously considering the scenario of closing the daycare at least

[1:46:58] Voice 28: temporarily for the fall. The lack of available secure affordable housing is the primary obstacle

[1:47:03] Voice 28: to hiring early childhood educators to work on our island. So I just wanted to kind of add that

[1:47:09] Voice 28: to the discussion of labor force considerations that other folks have already mentioned and add

[1:47:14] Voice 28: add as i said many times that i am in support of rezoning and urge the trustees to move forward

[1:47:19] Voice 28: thank you okay

[1:47:23] Voice 11: thank you i have one more hand up uh george harris

[1:47:40] Voice 23: okay we

[1:47:59] Voice 11: seem to be having trouble are you having trouble getting uh

[1:48:02] Voice 11: mr harris unmuted oh there it goes okay go ahead mr you

[1:48:15] Voice 23: should be able

[1:48:16] Voice 11: to speak now

[1:48:22] Voice 11: okay we're we're having a bit of technical problems with uh mr harris so it looks like

[1:48:30] Voice 11: he should be able to speak in his microphone so here's what i'm going to do we seem to be um

[1:48:37] Voice 11: we've gotten into at least a couple of speakers into some areas uh that anyway it's been an hour

[1:48:43] Voice 11: and a

[1:48:43] Voice 11: half that we've been out there so here's what i'd like to do is take a 10-minute break

[1:48:47] Voice 11: i'm going to come back with public hearing i'm going to ask once again if anybody wishes

[1:48:53] Voice 11: is a first-time speaker wishes to speak again sorry if a first-time speaker that hasn't spoken

[1:49:00] Voice 11: yet would like to speak keeping in mind that we have heard you've heard something from somebody

[1:49:05] Voice 11: else that you uh is what you're thinking you need to repeat it but if there's anybody in the room

[1:49:10] Voice 11: which is to speak for a first time we'll do that i will

[1:49:14] Voice 1: then ask uh

[1:49:15] Voice 11: there were a couple of people

[1:49:17] Voice 11: people who ended their presentations abruptly.

[1:49:23] Voice 11: I'll give a brief opportunity for second speakers.

[1:49:27] Voice 11: I'll give two minutes, second time speakers

[1:49:30] Voice 11: for any of those that need to.

[1:49:32] Voice 11: And of course, if you took only 90 seconds,

[1:49:35] Voice 11: you need to be a second time speaker.

[1:49:37] Voice 11: We'll go through those and then I'll proceed

[1:49:41] Voice 11: to the end of the public hearing.

[1:49:44] Voice 11: So we'll break right now until 10 to 50, and if you have something in writing you'd like

[1:49:53] Voice 11: to give to us before the end of the public hearing, this would be a good time to do that,

[1:49:58] Voice 11: because we need to read it before I close the public hearing.

[1:50:01] Voice 11: Thanks very much.

[1:50:06] Voice 11: It's still outside, there's numbers in the window.

[1:50:09] Voice 11: I guess people can watch now.

[1:50:14] Voice 11: okay well thank you a little uh start up again and uh so we're still in the middle of a public

[1:50:22] Voice 11: hearing so what i'm looking for right now is if there's anybody who has not yet spoken that still

[1:50:28] Voice 11: wishes to speak either with one woman who came up and spoke to me uh so if you put your hand up

[1:50:34] Voice 11: if you have not spoken and there's someone online as well who i'm going to get to um someone in the

[1:50:41] Voice 11: were anybody in the room that has not spoken that wish to speak please come off and

[1:50:46] Voice 11: take the seat

[1:50:47] Voice 11: um and give your name and then i'll get to you and then we'll be right back

[1:50:52] Voice 11: all right you've got four minutes you were watching at home okay

[1:50:57] Voice 23: so

[1:50:58] Voice 11: you know those rules

[1:50:59] Voice 11: please speak to the issues bylaws not individuals and off you go sure

[1:51:04] Voice 18: my name is donna usher i live

[1:51:07] Voice 18: live at 1359 Sawyer Pass Road. I've been a one and a half resident and coming to the island

[1:51:14] Voice 18: for about 50 years now. I've been a renter, a tenant, and also a landlord lately. And

[1:51:26] Voice 18: just recently, we moved here as I was being more of a weekend or summer resident. So I'm retired.

[1:51:37] Voice 18: And we rented our two houses out to locals, two families.

[1:51:42] Voice 18: And so in choosing to live here, we had to ask one of the families to move.

[1:51:51] Voice 18: And so it was a really difficult situation because one family, all those families are valuable community members.

[1:52:04] Voice 18: And we were very happy to give them places to live on an island that was difficult to find housing.

[1:52:11] Voice 18: And they're vibrant members of the community.

[1:52:14] Voice 18: So how do you choose?

[1:52:17] Voice 18: And so we asked one family to move.

[1:52:21] Voice 18: We gave them extra time, six months to find a place because we knew how difficult it is to find housing on the island.

[1:52:29] Voice 18: And we wanted to provide the opportunity for them to find it if they could.

[1:52:33] Voice 18: And it was, when I told them, it was heartbreaking.

[1:52:40] Voice 18: They cried because they were afraid for having to leave the island.

[1:52:47] Voice 18: Luckily, they found something very kind of, you know, very resourcefully.

[1:52:52] Voice 18: But we pulled a house off of the rental market reluctantly, but we wanted to be here.

[1:53:00] Voice 18: anyway so um I believe that I'm in favor of course for affordable housing I I think this is long

[1:53:11] Voice 18: overdue um both I support both housing development plans and I also thank the trust for giving us

[1:53:20] Voice 18: this opportunity to speak for all of the members all the sides for their due diligence in making

[1:53:27] Voice 18: this happen and it's providing um the opportunity to choose in a democratic way but yes i am very

[1:53:35] Voice 18: much so supportive thank you

[1:53:37] Voice 11: thank you ms usher steven ryback online right back if you could

[1:53:46] Voice 11: robin if you could unmute him go ahead you should be able to unmute yourself there you go

[1:53:54] Voice 27: thank you very much uh thank you very much chair rogers stephen ryback at 289 link letter road

[1:54:00] Voice 27: this rezoning application has been long arduous and costly but it has been an open and transparent

[1:54:09] Voice 27: process which has allowed diverse members of the community to raise numerous issues and concerns

[1:54:16] Voice 27: those issues and concerns have been addressed by the proponent their consultants island trust staff

[1:54:25] Voice 27: and in-house experts and other independent island experts where issues have been validated

[1:54:33] Voice 27: reasonable mitigating mitigation measures have been proposed and adopted by the proponent

[1:54:40] Voice 27: no project is going to be perfect not all personal issues will be resolved but this

[1:54:48] Voice 27: particular project has stood the test of public scrutiny it is reasonable its potential

[1:54:56] Voice 27: impacts have been identified and limited. I urge the LTC to proceed and approve the bylaws on that

[1:55:06] Voice 27: particular basis. Thank you. Thank

[1:55:09] Voice 11: you, Mr. Ryback. All right. Is there anybody else here

[1:55:13] Voice 11: that has not spoken yet that wishes to speak in this public? Yes, go ahead. State your name and

[1:55:23] Voice 11: your my name is deborah

[1:55:25] Voice 18: mckechnie and i live at 702 gulf drive i have been a long time resident

[1:55:31] Voice 18: of galliano and have been involved in various ways with uh the projects of trying to get

[1:55:40] Voice 18: affordable housing i'm in uh i i support this project and i want to say that i have uh been an

[1:55:50] Voice 18: an employer a tenant a landlord I've sort of kind of been in all positions and I've been

[1:56:00] Voice 18: a pretty active environmentalist as well and care about the island deeply

[1:56:07] Voice 18: really when I look at the world right now and I see what just the human condition and where we're

[1:56:14] Voice 18: at i think as a community we have to move forward in protecting each other and making sure that

[1:56:22] Voice 18: everyone has the dignity of having a security and a place to live and i want to congratulate

[1:56:30] Voice 18: everyone who's worked really hard on this project and i know that it is difficult for people who

[1:56:38] Voice 18: care about all the different aspects in this community but we are not going to have much

[1:56:44] Voice 18: of a community if we do not get some type of secure housing available in it in the community

[1:56:50] Voice 18: and i know that we need not just this but some other projects to happen and maybe no place is

[1:56:59] Voice 18: perfect but this land is available and i mean we just have to stop talking about it and get

[1:57:06] Voice 18: something done and I

[1:57:08] Voice 20: just say let God be and thank you for your work and I hope

[1:57:13] Voice 20: it goes through any

[1:57:15] Voice 11: other anybody first-time speakers have not yet spoken

[1:57:26] Voice 11: then I'm going to ask not leading and you'll have another couple chances like

[1:57:32] Voice 11: have to go through this it's like a bit of a thing uh oh are you a first-time speaker yes you are

[1:57:39] Voice 11: no i know that

[1:57:40] Voice 11: ms holmes is a second-time speaker are you a first-time speaker

[1:57:44] Voice 11: yes you state your name and you're okay my

[1:57:54] Voice 18: name is valerie testier i live at 9980

[1:57:57] Voice 18: known as the film school i am the face that you're looking for today the face that

[1:58:07] Voice 18: shows you the need for affordable housing on this island i am a single mother i live in

[1:58:13] Voice 18: substandard housing that was built for my family so that i would not leave i'm a critical member

[1:58:20] Voice 18: of this community i've donated thousands of volunteer hours to make sure that this community

[1:58:26] Voice 18: stays safe i'm the person that you call on your worst day and yet i am not i'm not demanding

[1:58:35] Voice 18: the world from this community.

[1:58:37] Voice 18: I'm simply demanding safe and secure housing,

[1:58:41] Voice 18: and it's long overdue.

[1:58:42] Voice 18: All of the concerns have been addressed

[1:58:48] Voice 18: and backed by science and facts.

[1:58:50] Voice 18: I urge you to move forward with this plan.

[1:58:53] Voice 18: I am, my son and my life depend on it,

[1:58:58] Voice 18: and I'm not being dramatic.

[1:59:00] Voice 18: I will not go into anecdotal facts

[1:59:03] Voice 18: about my life and my personal situation.

[1:59:07] Voice 18: but moving elsewhere is no option for us so i urge you i beg you please to move this board

[1:59:16] Voice 18: thank you very much so

[1:59:19] Voice 11: i'm going to not take any other hand for the moment um i'm going to

[1:59:25] Voice 11: as i said i would give a brief opportunity for second time speakers uh i'm going to set a

[1:59:32] Voice 11: two minutes two and a half minutes um for that please be brief and i know this moment

[1:59:38] Voice 11: you wanted to speak again so please join us up here thank you

[1:59:54] Voice 21: i

[1:59:55] Voice 18: would like to speak to

[2:00:00] Voice 18: the local trustees about how i feel about the applicants the alfred wall the people who actually

[2:00:12] Voice 18: applied for the rezoning went through with it donated 126 acres for a heritage forest donated

[2:00:23] Voice 18: nominated uh agreed to a covenant that would subdivide one percent of that for affordable

[2:00:32] Voice 18: housing they believed in affordable housing they believed in the heritage forest what went

[2:00:40] Voice 18: awfully wrong mr wall was that the covenant was broken the deed of trust was broken

[2:00:48] Voice 18: and now the bylaws are about to be broken and what went very wrong was that there is a lot of anger

[2:00:59] Voice 18: towards you and towards the people that bought the strata lots where will where the affordable

[2:01:07] Voice 18: housing will go not because there's affordable housing mr wall you agreed on affordable housing

[2:01:14] Voice 18: But this anger in this community is because the Covenant said two dwellings per hectare for a total of four dwellings, not 12 dwellings.

[2:01:30] Voice 18: um you're the owners that bought your subdivision that gave this community all the 126 acres of

[2:01:40] Voice 18: heritage forest they are they are not well treated because this application is not what

[2:01:50] Voice 18: the covenant said and that is a heartbreaker if uh people you won't recognize it but people in

[2:01:59] Voice 18: this room will jane rule signed my nomination papers twice i did nothing without her approval

[2:02:10] Voice 18: i would i'm so disappointed that this application has to come with this amount of anger

[2:02:18] Voice 18: and i asked myself why and it's because of everything that had to be broken and chelsea

[2:02:25] Voice 18: Miltner representing the Galliano Conservancy is misinformed. Not

[2:02:31] Voice 18: amending DL 32 creates

[2:02:34] Voice 18: opportunity for yet another application of a 12-plus.

[2:02:40] Voice 18: Is

[2:02:42] Voice 11: there anybody else who has already spoken that wishes to speak again?

[2:02:47] Voice 11: Thank you

[2:03:02] Voice 18: for the opportunity to speak again. Jennifer Margeson and I'm at

[2:03:06] Voice 18: to one four one seven six thousand we are one of the property owners in the strata that was created

[2:03:13] Voice 18: from the district lots and that resulted in the heritage force and we have always understood the

[2:03:21] Voice 18: terms of the covenant quite clearly um we looked at that when we were first considering to buy

[2:03:27] Voice 18: um so it it is with some um disappointment i must say that i feel um as debbie said this has been

[2:03:38] Voice 18: um a feeling that we are not because we are questioning the covenant and questioning the

[2:03:46] Voice 18: declaration of trust and how that all worked together with the ocp and the lub

[2:03:51] Voice 18: at the time and because we are questioning a density now that is many times what we understood

[2:04:00] Voice 18: it to be in the disclosure statement when we bought our property. I'm disappointed that there

[2:04:06] Voice 18: is anger being expressed towards us for that reason. We have always understood the terms of

[2:04:15] Voice 18: the covenant and our understanding it appears is is different uh than some um i would like to just

[2:04:23] Voice 18: speak really briefly to one of my main concerns from the very beginning it always has been water

[2:04:31] Voice 18: resources we all know we're we're all sharing water resources on the

[2:04:37] Voice 18: island and that they are

[2:04:39] Voice 18: in fact a diminishing resource the aquifer in our area is considered to be a low productivity

[2:04:45] Voice 18: aquifer i'm sure there are places on galliano that have worse water than we do and there are

[2:04:52] Voice 18: places that have better but our water resources do not care what the purpose of a development is

[2:04:59] Voice 18: so i do want to speak to that because we are very worried about our own housing sustainability

[2:05:06] Voice 18: and that of our neighbors in how we may be our water may be impacted by this development

[2:05:13] Voice 18: you may wish to believe that the applicant's reports were thorough and the commercial water

[2:05:20] Voice 18: license people did further work to ensure that there would be enough water an unfortunate truth

[2:05:26] Voice 18: is that this is not the case and there has been no attention to the deficiencies

[2:05:31] Voice 18: in those reports that we have continued to identify again

[2:05:36] Voice 21: any

[2:05:38] Voice 12: other

[2:05:53] Voice 11: brief second time speaker yes sir thank you jeff

[2:06:06] Voice 3: I meant to say something that the trust maybe hasn't heard before,

[2:06:10] Voice 3: because I think a lot of what was said here today, you were.

[2:06:15] Voice 3: But just in terms of transport,

[2:06:17] Voice 3: we keep hearing about the cars and how everybody needs a car.

[2:06:21] Voice 3: I was glad that Mami brought up the issue of bikes,

[2:06:25] Voice 3: because this is a new information for you, I hope.

[2:06:29] Voice 3: It takes 10 minutes by e-bike to get from a Georgia View location to the market.

[2:06:36] Voice 3: and that's somebody who's 70 years old 10 minutes bye-bye

[2:06:49] Voice 11: so i'm not seeing any other second time speakers

[2:06:53] Voice 11: i'm not

[2:06:54] Voice 12: seeing any more so

[2:06:55] Voice 11: i'm going to go go back to my script which i have oh is

[2:06:58] Voice 12: there i'm sorry

[2:07:09] Voice 12: as long as we're not getting a

[2:07:12] Voice 25: debate with this

[2:07:14] Voice 12: whole go

[2:07:15] Voice 25: ahead well since i was named personally

[2:07:19] Voice 25: i just wanted to again make a clarification that the covenant does not speak to density and

[2:07:23] Voice 25: whatsoever it allows or it reserves a right to the owner to subdivide the land in accordance

[2:07:30] Voice 25: in accordance with the OCP.

[2:07:31] Voice 25: It does not, whether the OCP speaks to density

[2:07:35] Voice 25: and then whether this proposal goes against that

[2:07:38] Voice 25: is outside of the covenant

[2:07:40] Voice 25: and the covenant cannot control that.

[2:07:42] Voice 25: So I just want to clarify what the covenant allows

[2:07:46] Voice 25: and doesn't allow.

[2:07:47] Voice 25: It allows for this reserved right for the owner

[2:07:50] Voice 25: to subdivide the land in accordance with the OCP

[2:07:52] Voice 25: is up for the local trust committee

[2:07:54] Voice 25: to decide whether this proposal

[2:07:57] Voice 25: is in accordance with the OCP.

[2:07:58] Voice 25: that is beyond the scope of the covenant so all we are doing by allowing this to go to

[2:08:04] Voice 25: public hearing and to be decided by the local trust committee is following the covenant again

[2:08:13] Voice 25: the limited technicality is such that the total hectares of f1 property rezoned to date is under

[2:08:24] Voice 25: under 200 hectares. It's 161 hectares. If another lot was converted to community forest, even if it

[2:08:32] Voice 25: wasn't through or from F1 to community forest, even if RR was not created, theoretically, this

[2:08:38] Voice 25: whole issue around the technicality would disappear. And that would happen at any point in

[2:08:44] Voice 25: the future if it happens as well. So we are simply trying to allow for the reserved right in the

[2:08:50] Voice 25: covenant to proceed uh or to be decided by the community uh and are upholding the covenant

[2:08:58] Voice 25: as we understand it okay thank you very much i

[2:09:05] Voice 11: i think you've made your point miss holmes he's

[2:09:08] Voice 11: made his point so so i don't think there's any need to carry on this case uh

[2:09:13] Voice 18: if i can speak not

[2:09:16] Voice 18: not to misdevelop there or that but if i can just add to the public hearing record

[2:09:23] Voice 18: that if all the forest lots in the forest zone of 6 000 acres have applied for heritage forests

[2:09:32] Voice 18: there would have been 60 affordable houses and

[2:09:36] Voice 11: that's in your letter to us i read that

[2:09:38] Voice 11: And

[2:09:39] Voice 18: if only one 28-year-old forest law applied, there would be 48 close.

[2:09:47] Voice 11: Thank you, sir.

[2:09:48] Voice 11: Sorry, I have a problem.

[2:09:49] Voice 11: Thank you.

[2:09:53] Voice 11: Okay, so I'm not seeing – I think I'm going to proceed now to the process to close the public hearing.

[2:10:03] Voice 11: and just note that after the public hearing closes we are no longer able to receive public

[2:10:09] Voice 11: submissions prior to making a decision so once more is there any other first-time speaker someone

[2:10:17] Voice 11: who has not taken the opportunity to speak to us that really needs to save time we're going to ask

[2:10:24] Voice 11: a second time if there's anybody that wishes to speak to us and i'm going to ask a third time

[2:10:33] Voice 11: And this is the final opportunity for you to hand in any written submissions that you may have, and I'm just going to ask Robin.

[2:10:44] Voice 11: Robin, have you received anything over the course of the hearing, sorry, over the course of the public hearing in the way of email submissions further beyond what you sent to us at, say, 1130?

[2:10:59] Voice 1: Yes, there have

[2:10:59] Voice 1: been several letters, and I forward them all to the LTC in broad.

[2:11:04] Voice 11: The last

[2:11:05] Voice 16: one was received at 3.08.

[2:11:06] Voice 11: Okay, so

[2:11:07] Voice 16: then what we're going to

[2:11:08] Voice 11: do is, I'm

[2:11:09] Voice 16: going to sort of

[2:11:10] Voice 11: pause for a moment.

[2:11:12] Voice 11: Actually, what I'm going to do is, we need to read all of that before we close the public hearing.

[2:11:18] Voice 11: That's the way it works.

[2:11:21] Voice 11: So, and I also have some here, some of which I've seen before, some of which is new to us.

[2:11:27] Voice 11: so if we could just take um i'll reconvene at 3 30 and we'll then we'll give us a chance to

[2:11:39] Voice 11: read what else has come in and then we'll reconvene at 3 30. i'll ask the third time

[2:11:45] Voice 11: if there's any speakers first time speakers and they thought i would close the public hearing

[2:11:49] Voice 11: so we'll see you back here at 3 30 not including people online thank you very much i'm

[2:11:56] Voice 29: here okay

[2:11:57] Voice 29: Okay, thank you.

[2:11:59] Voice 1: It's recording.

[2:12:00] Voice 1: Yeah.

[2:12:02] All right.

[2:12:05] Voice 10: I can't hear you.

[2:12:07] Voice 11: I don't know.

[2:12:13] Voice 11: So I've asked twice.

[2:12:32] Voice 11: Let's make it for three.

[2:12:33] Voice 11: had three i

[2:12:35] Voice 10: guess only two

[2:12:38] Voice 11: so please join us if you wish to speak uh we're what we're doing is

[2:12:42] Voice 11: we're coming sitting up here and i'll set you up with my finance thank

[2:12:48] Voice 4: you chair and trustee

[2:12:51] Voice 4: rockefeller and planner smith um as you know i'm always late um just i was working on my boat but

[2:13:00] Voice 4: listening to this and tried to make a comment that my internet did not allow me

[2:13:05] Voice 4: that's right

[2:13:06] Voice 4: so um very short i want to thank the community for the support they've given um my family was

[2:13:24] Voice 4: the other contributor to the heritage forest and one of the selling points was that

[2:13:32] Voice 4: a portion of the land would be set aside for housing and today the opportunity exists that

[2:13:45] Voice 4: this will actually happen all those who supported this i thank them wholeheartedly and those

[2:13:56] Voice 4: who didn't support it i also thank them they made us work our asses off to make sure that this

[2:14:05] Voice 4: project was we did as much work as possible to make sure that this is going to be a good project

[2:14:20] Voice 4: so i strongly support the rezoning that you are looking at today thank you

[2:14:33] Voice 11: thank you okay so i'll

[2:14:37] Voice 11: last again for a third time are there any other speakers to address the public hearing for first

[2:14:42] Voice 11: time okay i'll just tell

[2:14:49] Voice 11: you that we did receive a number of submissions most of them were in a

[2:14:59] Voice 11: similar vein i'm not sure what the organization is it doesn't matter there so we got all of those

[2:15:06] Voice 11: there were another 30 and a few more

[2:15:08] Voice 11: other ones that i have also had a chance to read including

[2:15:11] Voice 11: including from Mr. Wall and from Ms. Davis.

[2:15:15] So thank you for those that we've received

[2:15:18] and we've gotten all of those.

[2:15:19] And

[2:15:20] Voice 11: I have also had the opportunity

[2:15:21] Voice 11: to read all of the ones that were handed.

[2:15:25] Voice 11: Some of them were similar to what was said

[2:15:28] Voice 11: in the past, but we've read all of that.

[2:15:30] Voice 11: So thank you all that.

[2:15:32] Voice 11: So with that, nothing further,

[2:15:36] Voice 11: I'm going to close the public hearing.

[2:15:38] Voice 11: hearing. Please be advised that we are now in the post public hearing stage of the legislative

[2:15:46] Voice 11: review of proposed bylaws 276 and 277. The Galliano Local Trust Committee can now no

[2:15:54] Voice 11: longer receive information pertaining to proposed bylaws. However, you can still submit any

[2:16:01] Voice 11: outstanding questions as this matter proceeds and comments directly to the planner. You

[2:16:07] Voice 11: can talk to the planner we can ask questions planner we can't receive any further submissions

[2:16:13] Voice 11: the reality is we get some standard information from anyone uh that you may have we may have to

[2:16:19] Voice 11: reopen the bike with it we can't receive anything without reopening uh we may give further readings

[2:16:25] Voice 11: to the bylaw or repeat the bylaw or make minor amendments that do not affect the user density

[2:16:30] Voice 11: without notice or hearings so we're now going to reconvene the meeting back into the uh to the

[2:16:40] Voice 11: the agenda that we approved earlier in the day if i can find it um and the next item on the agenda

[2:16:47] Voice 11: and i

[2:16:48] Voice 24: want by the way i

[2:16:49] Voice 11: want to say thank you to in relation to the public hearing uh for those of

[2:16:54] Voice 11: you that were brief uh that was great and for those and there were some very eloquent things

[2:16:59] Voice 11: that uh i hadn't thought of before so i appreciate that and i appreciate now i'm tying myself up

[2:17:11] Voice 11: i uh i and and all of these submissions this uh this issue has very much engaged to this

[2:17:19] Voice 11: this uh community uh and um i appreciate all of the numerous submissions we've received since this

[2:17:28] Voice 11: this first arrived on our agenda in November of 2019.

[2:17:33] Voice 11: And I think even before that we were getting the odd thing.

[2:17:37] Voice 11: And as I said, I really get a sense of the community

[2:17:41] Voice 11: because I read them all again in the last day and a half.

[2:17:44] Voice 11: Some of them may not have read as thoroughly

[2:17:46] Voice 11: as the first time, but I did read them all again.

[2:17:49] Voice 11: So with that, we're back into applications 4.1,

[2:17:53] Voice 11: which is a staff report,

[2:17:54] Voice 11: which is on page two of the agenda package,

[2:17:59] Voice 11: and I'm going to turn it over to,

[2:18:02] Voice 11: first of all, to Planner Smith,

[2:18:04] Voice 11: and then we'll see what Trustee Rockefeller's.

[2:18:11] Voice 21: I

[2:18:19] Voice 11: can't seem to hear it with the way it is.

[2:18:21] Voice 11: Oh, you're trying to get Planner Smith.

[2:18:23] Voice 11: Sorry, that's fine, thanks.

[2:18:27] Voice 9: Thank you, Chair Rogers.

[2:18:29] Voice 9: So before you hear the staff report,

[2:18:31] Voice 9: then you can choose to consider today

[2:18:32] Voice 9: with a number of recommendations from staff regarding uh proposed bylaw number 276 proposed

[2:18:39] Voice 9: bylaw number 277 and draft bylaw number 274 which is the administrative bylaw uh regarding the

[2:18:47] Voice 9: housing agreement pertaining to this application um so obviously you're familiar with the bylaws

[2:18:53] Voice 9: and the summary that's there i'm not going to spend a lot of time on this

[2:18:59] Voice 9: other than to talk about next steps if you do choose to consider these recommendations

[2:19:05] Voice 9: being made by staff today then the next step would be for staff to submit the three proposed

[2:19:14] Voice 9: bylaws to the island's trust executive committee for approval which is required by the island's

[2:19:19] Voice 9: Trust Act

[2:19:20] Voice 9: for all bylaw amendments. And the proposed OCP bylaw number 276 would also need

[2:19:28] Voice 9: ministerial approval from the Minister of Municipal Affairs in accordance with the

[2:19:33] Voice 9: Islands Trust Act and the Local Government Act. So I think I'll just pass it back over to you and

[2:19:40] Voice 9: you can decide what to do. And we've also talked about one other resolution that is not in the

[2:19:47] Voice 9: staff report but i think is is uh important to consider today is uh you have uh considered

[2:19:54] Voice 9: the island's trust policy statement with respect to bylaw number 276 and number 277 and when we

[2:20:01] Voice 9: send all three of the bylaws to the executive committee that is one of the key considerations

[2:20:05] Voice 9: that the island's trust executive committee considers so i would also add to those

[2:20:09] Voice 9: recommendations a resolution that you uh consider the uh bylaw number 274 and whether it is

[2:20:16] Voice 9: consistent with reverence to the island's trust policy statement today okay maybe

[2:20:21] Voice 11: we'll come to

[2:20:22] Voice 11: that because that's not in your staff report can

[2:20:24] Voice 11: you leave that for the last i think that's

[2:20:26] Voice 9: the best to get work through the ones you have there i just wanted to flag that that's one

[2:20:29] Voice 11: additional risk so i'm going to turn this

[2:20:31] Voice 11: way for the

[2:20:31] Voice 9: first time today uh

[2:20:34] Voice 11: how would you like

[2:20:36] Voice 11: you have any amendments do you want to consider these monthly recommendations

[2:20:44] Voice 9: actually sorry

[2:20:46] Voice 9: chair rogers we also need to we do need to correct bylaw number 277 to

[2:20:52] Voice 9: change 13.22 to 13.23 correct so we should do that uh prior to you giving second reading you

[2:21:01] Voice 9: would make that amendment that's

[2:21:02] Voice 11: 277 so that would be motion number two if we move through

[2:21:07] Voice 11: through those motions in the order they're in.

[2:21:08] Voice 11: So make an

[2:21:09] Voice 11: amendment to just change

[2:21:11] Voice 11: where it says 13.22 to 13.23.

[2:21:14] Voice 11: Correct, just to fix that reference

[2:21:17] Voice 9: in the land use by-law section 13.23

[2:21:19] Voice 9: with respect to the requirement for a cistern.

[2:21:23] Voice 9: Correct.

[2:21:25] Voice 11: So Trustee Rockefeller,

[2:21:27] Voice 11: I guess the decision point right now is,

[2:21:31] Voice 11: are you ready to, having heard all of the public commentary

[2:21:34] Voice 11: and public hearing, are you ready to move forward?

[2:21:36] Voice 11: do you want to make any of these motions yeah

[2:21:38] Voice 18: i'm happy to make the motions um i'll move that

[2:21:55] Voice 11: so i'll second that for our discussion and what i'm just going to say is i have some things i

[2:22:03] Voice 11: wish to say and i'm going to say them all in relation to this first motion um

[2:22:07] Voice 12: and then they'll

[2:22:09] Voice 12: apply to if we go on to the other motions as

[2:22:12] Voice 23: well i have the same okay so what if you go first

[2:22:15] Voice 11: oh i think you should i don't live on yeah

[2:22:22] Voice 18: um well okay so uh reserving a forest land is not something i take lightly

[2:22:32] Voice 18: much by those people are

[2:22:36] Voice 23: you sure

[2:22:39] Voice 18: it's

[2:22:43] Voice 23: one

[2:22:47] Voice 11: of the things i believe is that

[2:22:49] Voice 11: is i think it's important for the community to know our reasons for doing what we're doing

[2:22:56] Voice 11: it i don't think that we should just pass notions and we're required to do that and we've had a lot

[2:23:02] Voice 11: of input from a lot of different people related to um uh these submissions and i so i do have

[2:23:10] Voice 11: a number of reasons i've amended some of them after the the public hearing during the public

[2:23:16] Voice 11: hearing today just because things have heard however the essence of what i'm going to say

[2:23:20] Voice 11: has not changed and i'll just start by saying i support the recommendation planner and here's why

[2:23:27] Voice 11: first some background i want to be clear about something i came to this application with only

[2:23:32] Voice 11: a few notions uh first that housing is a serious problem perhaps crisis on the gulf islands as it

[2:23:40] Voice 11: is throughout bc the trust worked on the housing assessment back in 2018 and all of the evidence

[2:23:50] Voice 11: shows that this is true despite and all the evidence since and all the

[2:23:56] Voice 11: evidence they also exist secondly um i am definitely despite having been characterized

[2:24:06] Voice 11: at this way not pro-development my neighbors on keats would laugh and roar if they heard people

[2:24:14] Voice 11: describing me as as pro-development given that i sometimes referred to as the green avenger on the

[2:24:20] Voice 11: the island and I am the local who angsts over every tree that's cuts down on my island. Third,

[2:24:29] Voice 11: I carry the trust mandate with me everywhere I go. I see that as part of my job of being on the

[2:24:37] Voice 11: executive. Fourth, I am acutely aware that I am not from this island and thus listen to the other

[2:24:46] Voice 11: trustee the staff and the community uh blank and fifthly i am con was consciously aware of the ocp

[2:24:55] Voice 11: recognizes the importance of affordable housing on galliano and that that's an overriding theme of

[2:25:02] Voice 11: this all the other things so in order to come to my decision i have read and listened intently

[2:25:12] Voice 11: hundreds of letters i just read most of them again expert reports staff reports i just read those

[2:25:20] Voice 11: again i have talked to some of you uh in this room uh about issues and process and i've walked the

[2:25:29] Voice 11: land uh we had a tour very early in this process but i've gone back twice more to walk that piece

[2:25:35] Voice 11: of property while my own just to get a sense of what it was like i wanted to

[2:25:42] Voice 11: know whether it felt

[2:25:43] Voice 11: like a place you could have a and you know i felt have a housing complex and to understand the issue

[2:25:51] Voice 11: one of the other perspectives i have come to understand in the past few years partly because

[2:25:56] Voice 11: i sat on the report of a housing task force with um it wasn't a task force it was a working group

[2:26:02] Voice 11: with the trust is how over development has occurred on the gulf islands and believe it has

[2:26:09] Voice 11: not been through dense development it has been done through hundreds of standalone single family

[2:26:16] Voice 11: that is the where how we got into this crisis in the first place and most have been built with few

[2:26:26] Voice 11: controls. They've been, they've been like, and nothing like what have been required in this

[2:26:34] Voice 11: development or other developments like the zoning existed to allow them. So unless a rezone was

[2:26:41] Voice 11: required on a development or development permit existed, a development could occur. And often,

[2:26:49] Voice 11: often with sensitivity, but not always. It is notable that we are being asked to involve

[2:26:57] Voice 11: conditions on a housing development and we have been throughout for people who are likely priced

[2:27:06] Voice 11: out of the uh the market on uh home ownership by others who had no such conditions imposed on

[2:27:16] Voice 11: the ltc has a say about many issues in an application like this because we had need to

[2:27:24] Voice 11: rezone and we don't have to we have discretion period it is how we have imposed the requirements

[2:27:33] Voice 11: uh not required of standalone homes an ecological assessment an important an important tree

[2:27:41] Voice 11: assessment from an artist a housing agreement a section 219 covenant a water study and another

[2:27:48] Voice 11: another water study, and another water study, and a water license from the province, a wastewater report, and a water management plan.

[2:27:58] Voice 11: So, why do I support some of this? I wanted to address some of the issues that have been raised by many people, including at this today.

[2:28:07] Voice 11: I want to just touch briefly on the issue of the covenant regarding half the Galeano Conservancy and the Galeano Club.

[2:28:16] Voice 11: club i have read all the correspondence regarding this issue none of it convinces me that the issue

[2:28:22] Voice 11: is the purview of the ltc um it's not our our issue with respect to trustees the time

[2:28:30] Voice 11: whatever the reasons for doing what they did including moving some land to a provincial park

[2:28:36] Voice 11: we are we are faced with an application to rezone land in question to community housing too

[2:28:44] Voice 11: not community facilities there are no legal impediments to us doing so and the issue of

[2:28:50] Voice 11: the covenant terms i.e a covenant that the ltc is not a party to is between the people who are

[2:28:57] Voice 11: parties to the company not us and that's the decision we've taken from the beginning of this

[2:29:03] Voice 11: whole process this is that this is not our that's not our issue if they can solve it they'll solve

[2:29:11] Voice 11: second question i ask myself is is the environmental assessment sufficient

[2:29:15] Voice 11: i've reviewed it again and combined with the important tree assessment find it thorough and

[2:29:20] Voice 11: compelling it sets out many measures for protection of the ecosystem and assesses the area

[2:29:27] Voice 11: of the development i am satisfied that any species at risk will not be adversely affected certainly

[2:29:34] Voice 11: Certainly no more than a single home. Remember, the community always intended contemplated this area for some form of affordable housing, and the report supports the location, including not supporting alternative locations that have been suggested this location has been criticized

[2:29:59] Voice 11: size sports

[2:30:00] Voice 11: distance from services. It's some distance, but so is much of Galliano. Should this be a stopping

[2:30:08] Voice 11: place? It is a dedicated road and a fire bridge. It would be a very nice area for those who would

[2:30:18] Voice 11: rather be in nature rather than in the middle of the community. It has some drawbacks, but on

[2:30:24] Voice 11: balance i don't believe its location is a reason to deny the application water has consumed much

[2:30:32] Voice 11: of our time of the ltc and rightfully so neighbors have every right to be concerned and the ocp and

[2:30:40] Voice 11: the trust policy uh statement direct us to be concerned with with density issues and water

[2:30:48] Voice 11: but they have the IGL report says plenty of water and no interference with the neighboring well

[2:30:56] Voice 11: and a low risk of any salt water intrusion that was confirmed um by the well monitor in 2021

[2:31:05] Voice 11: which sat for six almost six months the water line

[2:31:10] Voice 11: report commissioned

[2:31:12] Voice 11: by some of the neighbors, for the most part,

[2:31:16] Voice 11: confirmed the findings of the Hy-Geo report.

[2:31:19] Voice 11: I read it again last night,

[2:31:21] Voice 11: and it confirms most of the findings

[2:31:24] Voice 11: regarding quantity of water and well interference.

[2:31:27] Voice 11: The freshwater specialists also confirmed

[2:31:29] Voice 11: the findings of the well

[2:31:32] Voice 11: and the conclusions of the Hy-Geo report.

[2:31:35] Voice 11: And the province technical report also confirmed the report

[2:31:39] Voice 11: And took into consideration the water system in the vicinity, such as Styx Allis is watching, and the wells in the vicinity.

[2:31:47] Voice 11: If you read the report, they considered all of those wells.

[2:31:51] Voice 11: It granted the license on conditions, but it granted it and also said, can be the same conclusions as hydrogen.

[2:32:00] Voice 11: The water management plan provides substantial low water usage plans.

[2:32:07] Voice 11: plans I think that's to be applauded so section 219 covenant restricts outdoor water usage uh we

[2:32:16] Voice 11: did not require rain water uh for use for indoor non-potable sense it seems unnecessary expense

[2:32:24] Voice 11: for quote affordable housing project that will have low water usage in any case so one of the

[2:32:31] Voice 11: neighboring well owners if they have registered their wells they will have rights under the water

[2:32:37] Voice 11: sustainability act if they haven't registered their wells they should have the housing well

[2:32:46] Voice 11: will continue to be monitored as and data will be available to help determine any impacts we're in

[2:32:54] Voice 11: a time of climate change so we need to be cautious with this precious resource i'm satisfied that the

[2:33:03] Voice 11: the trust policy statement is satisfied

[2:33:05] Voice 11: by all the scientific work that was done

[2:33:08] Voice 11: and the neighbors reports of well trouble

[2:33:12] Voice 11: are not connected to this well.

[2:33:15] Voice 11: I agree that work is complete and as certain as we can be

[2:33:21] Voice 11: if the water, that the water use won't affect neighbors.

[2:33:28] Voice 11: What if that, what about future development?

[2:33:34] Voice 11: Well, my question has always been, why should people who live off, likely live off the island, but own property, take precedence over Galeano renters who need a home?

[2:33:47] Voice 11: In any case, that priority is what the Water Sustainability Act is all about.

[2:33:52] Voice 11: That's the whole idea of the Water Sustainability Act, is to set up a series of priorities to access to water.

[2:34:02] Voice 11: on the septic um while here i'll address the issue of septic we are not um by statute the

[2:34:10] Voice 11: only agency that will be involved in this potential development not by any stretch of

[2:34:17] Voice 11: the imagination

[2:34:18] Voice 22: a

[2:34:19] Voice 11: subdivision is nearing which will engage uh septic as well public health will

[2:34:25] Voice 11: be involved as well there is a provision of the section 219 covenant to be dealt with to deal

[2:34:31] Voice 11: with this and and also storm water management i expect that in fact the that runoff will be

[2:34:40] Voice 11: lessened by this project because of the improvements that are put in we've had some

[2:34:46] Voice 11: criticism of the housing business the current housing agreement is not what i imagined i will

[2:34:52] Voice 11: acknowledge at the outset of this nor did anyone to be honest i don't think anybody really imagined

[2:34:58] Voice 11: it would take the word that it did but understand it has evolved it provides for affordability

[2:35:05] Voice 11: has at least two tests for affordability both in terms of the rent and the who's accessible

[2:35:11] Voice 11: it has been thoroughly negotiated um and i'm sure that the planner and the applicants can do

[2:35:19] Voice 11: can have transmitted that and approved by legal counsel i'm comfortable with provisions regarding

[2:35:25] Voice 11: rents and income tests it is important to keep in mind this is not social housing i think there's

[2:35:35] Voice 11: been some misunderstanding about that it's not social heart if you want pure social housing

[2:35:41] Voice 11: you need to talk to the province to fully fund and produce such a thing this is an affordable

[2:35:47] Voice 11: rental housing project by a not-for-profit and hopefully it will achieve that goal

[2:35:55] Voice 11: and then i thought about should we have a some form of a sunset clause on the zoning some sort

[2:36:01] Voice 11: of a clause that's recommended about whether or not we should have a clause that says it reverts

[2:36:08] Voice 11: our job is to create zoning to provide for land use what if the funding never appears is the

[2:36:14] Voice 11: question that arises attractive as it is to consider a reversion provision i'm left with

[2:36:20] Voice 11: the question of well for how long do we wait did we put it in for five years

[2:36:24] Voice 11: we put it in for 10

[2:36:25] Voice 11: years how do we do that how do we create that uh and and so um and and what is left is even if

[2:36:34] Voice 11: there isn't funding found we do have the assets sorry the asset for the community amenity is

[2:36:40] Voice 11: hopefully affordable housing but at least is fully zoned to a pay pecter parcel i cannot predict

[2:36:47] Voice 11: what's going to happen in the future except i'm sure we're going to have climate change

[2:36:53] Voice 11: um but i believe that that's left to a future ltc to decide what would happen to this project

[2:36:59] Voice 11: because circumstances might change completely what to do this is a lot as um if funding never

[2:37:07] Voice 11: never materialize. I don't think this is a decision we should be making at this time.

[2:37:12] Voice 11: Some have criticized the decisions the trustees have reached. Some have criticized our process

[2:37:19] Voice 11: going so far as to call it a farce. Others have chafed under the many conditions we have

[2:37:30] Voice 11: placed on this proposal. I'm proud of our work done here. I believe we have been thorough

[2:37:36] Voice 11: thorough and fair to those who say otherwise I say you're entitled to your opinion and on that note

[2:37:44] Voice 11: might I might I say everyone is entitled to their opinion I'm mindful of some of the the toxicity

[2:37:51] Voice 11: and personal attacks that are coming out of

[2:37:53] Voice 11: in other forums it does not reflect well on Galliano

[2:37:58] Voice 11: I don't believe however I was comfortable that we have kept it out of our process and for those

[2:38:06] Voice 11: those that felt that we were either intimidated

[2:38:11] Voice 11: or affected by that process, we do not.

[2:38:14] Voice 11: So those are my reasons.

[2:38:16] Voice 11: And with that, I return to,

[2:38:18] Voice 11: I will be voting in favor of this motion.

[2:38:22] Voice 12: Well, I'm not gonna say what you said,

[2:38:24] Voice 12: but I mean, you

[2:38:25] Voice 18: did cover a lot of what I was gonna say.

[2:38:32] Voice 18: My view is I believe that forests were meant to live

[2:38:37] Voice 18: live without people and we should all just you know disappear but then that was like seven years

[2:38:41] Voice 18: ago right so then you

[2:38:42] Voice 18: know we've got a school and from this community it's not so much sacrificing

[2:38:48] Voice 18: a small portion of our forests but rather investing the future of ensuring a healthy

[2:38:53] Voice 18: and diverse community that will steward our forests because we're not a viable community

[2:38:57] Voice 18: about secured housing to ensure this seriously um it's hard to explain how much depth have gone

[2:39:04] Voice 18: into this project with the planners and with staff and professionals but it has been extensive and

[2:39:11] Voice 18: judging by how much grief i get from both sides i feel like i've done a good job um and i know it's

[2:39:19] Voice 18: difficult to have development behind your where you purchased a lot and there's development but

[2:39:26] Voice 18: one of the comments in the for in the public hearing today what it really hit home was

[2:39:31] Voice 18: if it's desirable for residents of the strata then why not for those who qualify for affordable housing because really that's the world that's here you know owning a business making our lives work and i think it's um it's all relative and we're gonna have to clear for us whether people are buying their five acre lots and moving here during the pandemic we've seen a lot of clearing for that or clearing for the affordable development or you know even the market value because it's average 30 percent

[2:40:00] Voice 18: it but i think it's really important and i appreciate everyone's concerns on both sides

[2:40:06] Voice 18: okay

[2:40:08] Voice 11: so are we ready to vote then let me just get the motion back

[2:40:16] Voice 11: uh you're with us yes so uh this is the first motion that's in the uh

[2:40:24] Voice 11: in the package at page two and it's been moved and seconded so if there's nothing further

[2:40:30] Voice 11: I have nothing further. I'll call the roll. I'll pass as unanimous. Now we need to amend

[2:40:35] Voice 11: 277 briefly.

[2:40:37] Voice 11: Yes.

[2:40:37] Voice 9: Since

[2:40:38] Voice 11: you're a resident of St. Louis.

[2:40:41] Voice 11: And it's just

[2:40:42] Voice 23: a technical amendment.

[2:40:45] Voice 18: I have it here.

[2:40:46] Voice 18: Go ahead.

[2:40:48] Voice 18: That the Galliano Island Local Trust Committee amend Article 2C of proposed bylaw number

[2:40:53] Voice 18: 277 to change the reference of section 13.22 to section 13.23.

[2:40:58] Voice 11: Second that.

[2:40:59] Voice 11: So is there any discussion?

[2:41:00] Voice 11: all in favor that passes and there's another motion next motion in

[2:41:06] Voice 10: the little package uh then

[2:41:07] Voice 18: we've got the galliano island local trust committee proposed bylaw number 277

[2:41:11] Voice 18: cited as galliano island land use bylaw number 127 1999 number one 2020 if you read the second

[2:41:18] Voice 18: one i'll

[2:41:19] Voice 12: second that motion i don't need to repeat myself

[2:41:23] Voice 12: i

[2:41:23] Voice 18: mean i wish i'd be more eloquent in my initial statement but

[2:41:27] Voice 20: i didn't write anything down

[2:41:29] Voice 20: okay so

[2:41:31] Voice 11: if there's nothing further i think many of all my comments apply to all which is all

[2:41:36] Voice 11: called the vote all in favor that passes keep going uh

[2:41:39] Voice 18: that the galleon island local trust

[2:41:41] Voice 18: committee proposed bylaw number 276 said it is galleon island official committee plan bylaw

[2:41:45] Voice 18: number 108 1995 amendment number 2 2020 be read a third time i'll

[2:41:50] Voice 10: second that and if there's

[2:41:52] Voice 10: nothing further i'll call the vote i pass this unanimously move

[2:41:56] Voice 18: the galleon island local trust

[2:41:58] Voice 18: committee proposed file number 277 said it is gallon oil number 127 1999 number one 2020

[2:42:06] Voice 18: and uh

[2:42:08] Voice 11: i'll second that and if there's nothing further i'll call the vote so

[2:42:14] Voice 11: now just before we get to 274 do we need to do your motion related to the trust policy statement

[2:42:21] Voice 11: and 274 before we start giving your readings or how do you probably the most appropriate

[2:42:26] Voice 11: for you

[2:42:26] Voice 23: and

[2:42:27] Voice 11: and we don't have a i just was saying i'm not saying i'm not prepared to do this i'm

[2:42:31] Voice 11: just thinking about up through the trust policy statement checklist but if they if it were they

[2:42:36] Voice 11: were all checked off for the for the um uh for 276 and 277 they would have all been the same for the

[2:42:46] Voice 11: for the housing agreement correct that's your that's your sense that's your

[2:42:51] Voice 11: you let me just

[2:42:57] Voice 9: I just want to make sure that there isn't something specific to housing that should

[2:43:01] Voice 9: be checked instead of NA in the

[2:43:05] Voice 9: end of it.

[2:43:09] Voice 9: But I think that, yes, you're correct.

[2:43:14] Voice 9: I don't believe there is a specific section on housing.

[2:43:17] Voice 9: There is, and I

[2:43:18] Voice 9: think maybe perhaps around health and well-being, and this speaks to

[2:43:23] Voice 9: long-term needs there for projected housing requirements, et cetera, and it's checked.

[2:43:28] Voice 9: It's already checked.

[2:43:29] Voice 9: It's already checked.

[2:43:30] Voice 17: Yeah.

[2:43:30] Voice 17: So it would be the

[2:43:31] Voice 9: same trust policy statement.

[2:43:33] Voice 11: It would be the same trust

[2:43:33] Voice 9: policy statement, and I would

[2:43:35] Voice 9: just fix the top to make it refer

[2:43:36] Voice 9: to all three of the by-laws.

[2:43:38] Voice 9: All right.

[2:43:38] Voice 9: So then let's have the motion.

[2:43:41] Voice 18: Okay.

[2:43:41] Voice 18: That the Gallant Island Local Trust Committee has reviewed the Island Trust Policy Statement

[2:43:45] Voice 18: Directive Policies Checklist, and determined that proposed administrative by-law number

[2:43:49] Voice 18: 274 is not contrary to or in variance with the Island Trust Policy Statement.

[2:43:54] Voice 11: I'll second that motion.

[2:43:55] Voice 11: That's called vote.

[2:43:57] Voice 11: Okay.

[2:43:57] Voice 11: Okay, we're back to the list, number five.

[2:44:01] Voice 11: I'm

[2:44:01] Voice 18: gonna make you read them all.

[2:44:02] Voice 18: Yeah, go ahead.

[2:44:03] Voice 18: The Big Illinois Local Trust Committee

[2:44:05] Voice 18: proposed bylaw number 274,

[2:44:07] Voice 18: said it is Gallina Island Housing Agreement

[2:44:09] Voice 18: bylaw number 274, 2019, be read for this time.

[2:44:12] Voice 18: I'll

[2:44:12] Voice 11: second that motion.

[2:44:14] Voice 11: And my reasons for voting in favor

[2:44:16] Voice 11: are those that I set out as my reasons earlier.

[2:44:19] Voice 18: Yeah, and I have done a thorough review

[2:44:22] Voice 18: of the housing agreement up until the last minute,

[2:44:25] Voice 18: and

[2:44:25] Voice 23: I'm confident that it's good for that community.

[2:44:30] Voice 12: Okay, I'll call the vote.

[2:44:32] Voice 12: All in favor, that passes unanimously.

[2:44:34] Voice 18: That the Gallin Island Local Trust Committee

[2:44:36] Voice 18: propose bylaw number 274,

[2:44:37] Voice 18: set it as Gallin Island Housing Agreement,

[2:44:39] Voice 18: bylaw number 274, 2019, 079.

[2:44:42] Voice 10: I'll second that.

[2:44:44] Voice 10: All in favor, passes unanimously.

[2:44:46] Voice 18: That the Gallin Island Local Trust Committee

[2:44:48] Voice 18: propose bylaw number 274,

[2:44:50] Voice 18: set it as Gallin Island Housing Agreement,

[2:44:52] Voice 18: bylaw number 274, 2019, 079.

[2:44:55] Voice 10: i'll second that call the vote that passes unanimously uh

[2:45:00] Voice 18: that they gather on local trust

[2:45:02] Voice 18: committee proposed bylaws number 274 number 276 and number 277 be forwarded to the secretary

[2:45:07] Voice 18: and just

[2:45:10] Voice 21: just

[2:45:12] Voice 11: for the record that that's all bylaws have to go to the executive committee for

[2:45:17] Voice 11: approval so call vote that passes unanimously

[2:45:26] Voice 18: be forwarded to the minister of municipal affairs i'll second that

[2:45:29] Voice 11: and all of denver passes unanimously

[2:45:33] Voice 11: plan smith is there anything further that we need to do in relation to the staff report or this

[2:45:38] Voice 11: matter

[2:45:39] Voice 9: no i would just comment that uh there is the outstanding matter of signing the section 219

[2:45:44] Voice 9: environmental covenant and that would need to be done prior to adoption of the

[2:45:49] Voice 9: final bylaws but of course with these next steps of executive committee and ministerial approval

[2:45:55] Voice 9: probably won't be done for a couple months and what i would also say with respect to

[2:46:01] Voice 9: ministerial approval is that staff have sent the draft bylaws and all of the consultative records

[2:46:05] Voice 9: including first nations consultation to the ministry and so we've done as much as we can

[2:46:11] Voice 9: to uh try to ensure that that ministerial review and approval can occur prior to the end of your

[2:46:17] Voice 9: term so that you can move to adoption if you choose to do so yeah

[2:46:20] Voice 11: we've got two months well

[2:46:22] Voice 11: sorry we've got till the end of october this term and

[2:46:26] Voice 23: uh so

[2:46:27] Voice 11: we could do that okay so that will appear

[2:46:29] Voice 11: on probably i think the plan is to appear on the august 3rd executive committee uh so might be back

[2:46:38] Voice 11: here uh but depending on what we need to do in september uh we'll see yes go ahead um i do have

[2:46:45] Voice 18: something unrelated to this property. Sorry. It's

[2:47:03] Voice 18: I was

[2:47:04] Voice 18: wondering if you could help me I was just I was looking at we

[2:47:08] Voice 18: did your comments regarding section two or further

[2:47:11] Voice 18: subdivision of these lands. And I was wondering from staff if

[2:47:14] Voice 18: if it would be possible to seek a resolution perhaps with Galeana Club and the LTC to limit further subdivision of the heritage forest.

[2:47:25] Voice 18: Unless, I mean, we all know that covenants can be amended, but if there was a covenant restricting further development,

[2:47:31] Voice 18: then it would allow for transparency and public hearing, because we did

[2:47:35] Voice 18: experience some difficulty with this covenant, and it was a third-party holdup.

[2:47:38] Voice 9: So what I'm hearing is that you're seeking to direct staff to explore a Section 219 covenant between the Local Trust Committee and the Galliano Club,

[2:47:50] Voice 9: stating that there would be no further subdivision of the remainder lands following subdivision of the heritage forest for further affordable housing.

[2:47:59] Voice 9: And I think that is certainly a possible covenant that the Local Trust Committee could enter into.

[2:48:06] Voice 9: to. We did hear from Mr. Miltner today that in his view, that the existing covenant between those

[2:48:14] Voice 9: third parties could not be would not enable further subdivision. But as we've experienced

[2:48:21] Voice 9: in this application process, the local trust is not a party to that covenant unless

[2:48:26] Voice 9: you have no

[2:48:26] Voice 9: control over that covenant. And if you did, if the Allianz Club was willing to enter into that

[2:48:34] Voice 9: that agreement with you it would allow the local trust committee to have some further control of

[2:48:41] Voice 9: course another rezoning process would need to play out but that covenant would be another legal

[2:48:45] Voice 9: instrument to further guarantee that the heritage forest lands will be protected. Yeah or

[2:48:53] Voice 9: if at the

[2:48:53] Voice 18: time of the that LTC was a desire to subdivide further for affordable housing it would leave

[2:48:58] Voice 18: leave it up to

[2:48:58] Voice 20: the community. Yeah

[2:49:00] Voice 9: and there's also a requirement in the OCP that the

[2:49:03] Voice 9: the covenants held between the local trust committee, where you

[2:49:08] Voice 9: are signatory with a third party that that needs to then go to

[2:49:11] Voice 9: public hearing. And so you would have, I guess, an additional

[2:49:16] Voice 9: layer of protection and assurance from the property

[2:49:20] Voice 9: owner or the property owner that further subdivision would not be

[2:49:25] Voice 9: contemplated on those lands.

[2:49:26] Voice 9: think

[2:49:26] Voice 18: i made a resolution or maybe i didn't or maybe that i direct the ltc direct staff

[2:49:33] Voice 18: and legal counsel to draft a covenant regarding that about

[2:49:40] Voice 11: explorer covenant with the galliano

[2:49:42] Voice 11: conservancy to restrict the

[2:49:44] Voice 9: subdivision of the remainder

[2:49:46] Voice 11: it would be the galliano club as the

[2:49:47] Voice 11: property owner of the remainder of

[2:49:50] Voice 9: the remainder so once assuming rezoning is approved and assuming

[2:49:55] Voice 9: subdivision is approved, then you could then create a covenant between only the local trust

[2:50:02] Voice 9: committee and the Galliano Club. So right now, the covenant, the housing agreement covenant that

[2:50:11] Voice 9: you will be agreeing to with the Galliano Club, with the Habitat and Acquisition Trust and the

[2:50:18] Voice 9: the Galliano Conservancy, it will carry with the lands.

[2:50:23] Voice 9: And so when, and if subdivision occurs,

[2:50:27] Voice 9: the housing agreement will carry

[2:50:29] Voice 9: with both the remainder parcel and the existing

[2:50:34] Voice 9: and the new two hectare parcel.

[2:50:38] Voice 9: Presumably at that time, the owners will want to remove,

[2:50:43] Voice 9: discharge that covenant because the housing agreement

[2:50:45] Voice 9: is not relevant to the remainder lands and then giggers would only be holding title uh that

[2:50:52] Voice 9: covenant on their title and so uh a covenant just between the galliano club and the local trust

[2:50:58] Voice 9: committee specific to the remainder around no further subdivision of those lands or affordable

[2:51:03] Voice 9: housing i think

[2:51:04] Voice 11: that's exactly what i think trustee rockefeller is asking for so we can

[2:51:09] Voice 9: get some language

[2:51:09] Voice 11: uh so

[2:51:10] Voice 9: i just want to make sure let's

[2:51:11] Voice 11: explore the starting point because we need

[2:51:13] Voice 11: need to have that conversation okay so pat you in any way you get the uh request stop to explore

[2:51:21] Voice 11: a covenant with the galliano club uh regarding uh um limitation on future subdivision of the

[2:51:31] Voice 11: remainder

[2:51:32] Voice 18: possibly cause for recovery i

[2:51:36] Voice 9: would say for portable housing and i think explorer would

[2:51:38] Voice 9: we can just start the

[2:51:39] Voice 18: next one but i

[2:51:41] Voice 9: would say for affordable housing because you wouldn't want

[2:51:44] Voice 9: to limit them for example splitting it into two heritage forest lots with a new owner i think it's

[2:51:52] Voice 9: really i think what you're seeking is specific to affordable to

[2:51:57] Voice 12: development but yeah it's

[2:52:00] Voice 9: up to you

[2:52:00] Voice 9: really but that would be my thought would be to limit to affordable housing because i think the

[2:52:06] Voice 9: risk for any. Sure,

[2:52:10] Voice 9: it's your or

[2:52:11] Voice 11: your belt. So can you can you

[2:52:16] Voice 11: sort of read back what you've got?

[2:52:19] Voice 29: And I've also I missed there was two very quick motion. I'll come

[2:52:23] Voice 23: back to those.

[2:52:24] Voice 29: Okay, thank you. Direct staff to explore a

[2:52:28] Voice 29: covenant between the local trust, the islands trust, and

[2:52:32] Voice 29: and Galliano Club regarding remainder parcel

[2:52:36] Voice 29: for limitation on further public,

[2:52:39] Voice 29: affordable housing development on remainder parcel.

[2:52:42] Voice 29: Yeah, I would just

[2:52:44] Voice 11: take out the affordable housing

[2:52:45] Voice 11: and just say development.

[2:52:47] Voice 29: Okay, so limitation on further development

[2:52:49] Voice 29: on remainder parcel.

[2:52:55] Voice 16: The

[2:52:56] Voice 9: local trust committee does hold a covenant

[2:52:58] Voice 9: it with uh the lot 32 which does have a a limiting clause that states no construction

[2:53:07] Voice 9: or development of structures so that is something that could be used as a reference

[2:53:15] Voice 11: um now okay so that's your motion uh i'll second that and that's just a direction to explore

[2:53:23] Voice 11: or it may not happen any time

[2:53:25] Voice 23: the first step would be for us to have a discussion

[2:53:29] Voice 23: and then

[2:53:31] Voice 9: explore what that language would look like and we could bring that back to local trust

[2:53:35] Voice 11: committee for further consideration um now uh so i'll call the vote on that so that passes

[2:53:42] Voice 11: unanimously and yes pap there were two other motions um that came in and i'm just trying

[2:53:48] Voice 11: they were both came in an email from from uh the planner and i'm just looking to see if i have your

[2:53:55] Voice 11: you have pat rod's email

[2:54:01] Voice 29: okay so

[2:54:02] Voice 11: we'll send them to you okay

[2:54:03] Voice 29: thank you very much

[2:54:04] Voice 11: yeah we'll get you those and i'll scan

[2:54:06] Voice 11: and send you the uh speakers list as well oh

[2:54:10] Voice 29: thank you that's great

[2:54:11] Voice 11: you can work does that

[2:54:12] Voice 11: work if you if i scan them and send them to you

[2:54:14] Voice 29: hopefully if

[2:54:16] Voice 11: not i'll i'll mail you the originals

[2:54:19] Voice 11: or something that's okay well

[2:54:20] Voice 29: i'll see you that yeah that's great thank you very much well i'm

[2:54:23] Voice 11: going to see you next week anyway aren't you all right so i i not next week i can bring them i can

[2:54:30] Voice 11: bring them to you so you have the spelling of the uh of the names for people okay so anything further

[2:54:38] Voice 11: question anything further that we need to do in relation to this matter

[2:54:43] Voice 23: uh

[2:54:44] Voice 11: because there's nothing else on our agenda so if there's nothing else on our agenda

[2:54:48] Voice 11: i'm going to um adjourn uh here so me and so at 4 15 we're going to adjourn with thanks to

[2:54:56] Voice 11: thanks very much robin thanks very much pat uh we're adjourned thank you very much