Islands Trust Council regular meeting, March 7, 2023

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[0:00:02] Voice 1: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the executive committee meeting of the pre-executive committee meeting of the Alliance Trust Council.

[0:00:12] Voice 1: Pleasure to be here in Stenemo territory this morning as the sun is rising over the horizon.

[0:00:19] Voice 1: And as always, waking up in Kosios territory is a joy and a pleasure and an opportunity to learn about the history of this place.

[0:00:29] Voice 1: advise everybody to take advantage of that so uh of course my name is peter lockem elected

[0:00:35] Voice 1: on theaters island sheriff's council i'm joined by toby elliott no

[0:00:39] Voice 3: i'm not sure

[0:00:40] Voice 1: tim peterson good morning uh my last hour illustrious sense that we see or else hot

[0:00:49] Voice 1: Good morning, Director Clark Frater, Legislative Manager David Marlin, and Stefan Cermak, Regional Planning Director.

[0:01:01] Voice 1: Good morning.

[0:01:03] Voice 1: Anyway, good morning, everyone. Really glad to have you all here.

[0:01:07] Voice 1: Appreciate all the, oh, and Laurie Foster, of course, looking after our minutes of technology here this morning.

[0:01:12] Voice 1: Really appreciative of all of you, all the work that you do for the Island Expressway,

[0:01:16] Voice 1: our delivery on our mandate and all the work to prepare us for today for a march budget council

[0:01:23] Voice 1: session we call it budget bylaw i think is the two main topics themes today and so very very

[0:01:29] Voice 1: much appreciate the work you do to get us to these places all right so i have an agenda before us and

[0:01:35] Voice 1: i'll ask if there's any additions or deletions to the agenda i know there's four pieces of

[0:01:40] Voice 1: additional correspondence that came to us this morning and um you know they are ostensibly late

[0:01:46] Voice 1: items it is at the pleasure of the executive committee to receive those items on our agenda

[0:01:52] Voice 1: um and then determine what to do with them um quite honestly um at this 11th hour some of these

[0:02:01] Voice 1: items should be perhaps deferred to our future um so i'm going to ask what the pleasure of the

[0:02:09] Voice 1: executive committee is do you want to defer these to our next agenda or do you want to see the next

[0:02:13] Voice 1: agenda i'm happy to refer i

[0:02:19] Voice 3: would just note that there is one piece of correspondence is because

[0:02:22] Voice 3: the delegate could not appear in person um and so i don't know that that one could be accepted

[0:02:31] Voice 3: or we accept them all and say but as a practice 24 hours ahead of time is the cutoff perhaps well

[0:02:39] Voice 1: Well, the cutoff is really the day

[0:02:42] Voice 1: that the agenda is published.

[0:02:43] Voice 1: And I'm trying to,

[0:02:44] Voice 1: so I'm actually wanting to set a standard, a precedent,

[0:02:48] Voice 3: and

[0:02:48] Voice 1: not set a precedent by creating exceptions.

[0:02:51] Voice 1: And so I think the best practice

[0:02:53] Voice 1: would be to defer to our next agenda.

[0:02:56] But I would also note that that

[0:02:58] Voice 1: piece of correspondence

[0:02:59] Voice 1: was sent to all trustees.

[0:03:00] Voice 1: So they already have it sort of through the back door.

[0:03:02] Voice 1: And that opportunity always exists.

[0:03:05] Voice 1: All right.

[0:03:06] Voice 1: So then.

[0:03:06] Voice 1: I

[0:03:07] Voice 2: would note 10.6 on your agenda with stamp error, so that one, the 10.6 for Mr. Schuster,

[0:03:14] Voice 2: we had an administrative mix-up, which is why it was not on your regular agenda.

[0:03:20] Voice 5: Okay.

[0:03:22] Voice 5: So, yeah.

[0:03:24] Voice 5: And, Mr. Chair, I

[0:03:26] Voice 1: wholeheartedly agree that an application of just the basic rules around

[0:03:32] when items are taken in and put on the

[0:03:35] Voice 1: agenda, we need to adhere to those better.

[0:03:36] Voice 1: Yeah.

[0:03:37] Voice 1: Causes a lot of challenges.

[0:03:39] Voice 1: We're probably in an interim period where we need to apply that earlier in the process, like on those dates.

[0:03:47] Voice 1: Okay.

[0:03:48] Voice 1: So I'm going to ask, with respect to the item from Mr. Schuster, in order to not make it appear that we're picking, what was the date that we received in the office that message?

[0:04:01] Voice 2: So it's dated February 28th. What was our cutoff, Laurie, do you know?

[0:04:05] Voice 1: The 14th.

[0:04:06] Voice 2: Okay. So it was received too late.

[0:04:13] Voice 5: Yeah, so I'm going to suggest that all

[0:04:16] Voice 1: four of these items be distributed to trustees

[0:04:19] Voice 1: by email if they have not done so already, and that will provide information for those.

[0:04:26] Voice 1: Does that sound like a reasonable approach?

[0:04:28] Voice 5: So

[0:04:28] Voice 1: then by general consent then the late items will not be received on this agenda but will

[0:04:32] Voice 1: be forwarded as presented to the EC by email to trustees, all right?

[0:04:40] Voice 1: Okay, super.

[0:04:41] Voice 1: Thank you.

[0:04:41] Voice 1: Thank you for that support.

[0:04:42] Voice 1: I think it's important to report.

[0:04:45] Voice 1: Any other items to add or remove from the agenda?

[0:04:50] Voice 5: No.

[0:04:51] Voice 1: Then let us go to a rise in report.

[0:04:55] Voice 1: We don't have anything to rise on from the last session.

[0:04:57] Voice 1: Adopting of minutes,

[0:04:58] Voice 1: February the 13th executive committee draft minutes.

[0:05:00] Voice 1: Are there any changes to those minutes?

[0:05:02] Voice 1: No, then I will accept it by general consent

[0:05:05] Voice 1: that the February 13th meeting minutes

[0:05:07] Voice 1: be adopted as presented.

[0:05:09] Voice 1: We also have February 22nd executive committee minutes.

[0:05:13] Voice 1: minutes. Any changes there? No. Then I'll take it by general consent that they also be received

[0:05:19] Voice 1: and received and adopted as presented. So our follow-up action list will be no doubt brief

[0:05:27] Voice 1: today. It's a pre-council meeting and so we're going to do as we normally do and turn to the

[0:05:34] Voice 1: directors to ask for their update on the follow-up action list and anything that they need to report

[0:05:39] Voice 1: to the executive committee today i'm going to begin with you uh morning chair luckham i think

[0:05:44] Voice 1: we're um moving into perhaps our 30th trust council meeting together quite exciting that is

[0:05:51] Voice 1: um i'm not going to really go through the fuel unless you want me to given that this is a bare

[0:05:58] Voice 1: bones skeleton meeting over a fair amount of time so i'll respond to any questions but i have two

[0:06:02] Voice 1: other things to speak to you about just in terms of the cao maybe we just ask if they have anything

[0:06:07] Voice 1: pressing on their mind today we're hoping to hear about on that follow-up action so you have

[0:06:11] all right okay great um of course we're having trust council start in a couple of hours and

[0:06:19] um i'm just going to take a minute here and see if i can describe

[0:06:24] Voice 1: the situation associated with the strategic plan so executive committee is responsible

[0:06:30] Voice 1: for this direction the strategic direction of the balance but the direction of trust council

[0:06:35] Voice 1: monitor and maintain it and keep it fresh and ensure that we're getting new materials um

[0:06:43] Voice 1: we're into this will be our third meeting uh the first trust council meeting was a training

[0:06:47] Voice 1: session and then we had sort of a business meeting and ritz is focused on um budget and

[0:06:53] Voice 1: any other issues that come up just pointing out a couple things if large projects are suggested

[0:06:59] Voice 1: at trust council that aren't contemplated right now they would necessarily be strategic plan

[0:07:04] Voice 1: like where they would go is to our strategic plan we have trust council has a fuel right

[0:07:15] yeah but it doesn't have a long list of projects

[0:07:17] Voice 1: it undertakes and those are

[0:07:20] Voice 1: essentially the strategic plan yeah and

[0:07:23] Voice 1: i'll just so that's just one note so if someone said hey

[0:07:27] Voice 1: let's do it this i would say great we should be looking at amending it this is generally

[0:07:32] Voice 1: the trust council speaks in that fashion around a large project that has financial implications

[0:07:38] Voice 1: it's region-wide implications that becomes some sort of strategic initiative

[0:07:42] Voice 1: that might be new news to some right at

[0:07:45] Voice 1: the table um so that's one two as you know the governance

[0:07:50] Voice 1: committee is not unofficially but is taking up the idea of corporate governance and corporate

[0:07:57] Voice 1: planning at the allen's trust and they're putting their minds to it and they've tasked a subset of

[0:08:02] Voice 1: finance fpc to start that conversation off however you are still responsible for strategic planning

[0:08:10] Voice 1: and um august so we're in 22 23 right now so come august we'll be talking about the budget for 24 25

[0:08:26] and if you have collectively interest in any strategic

[0:08:30] Voice 1: projects you need to begin having

[0:08:34] Voice 1: the conversations around what those things would be for it to be get into the budget for the public

[0:08:39] Voice 1: and others so i'm just giving you a little timeline update prior to us going into a trust

[0:08:44] Voice 1: council that for 24 25 you'd be wanting to contemplate those things from now till june

[0:08:52] Voice 1: now till september is the first block of the budget comes out of september if that doesn't

[0:08:57] Voice 1: happen we haven't come to a common understanding we're then into 25 26. and there's two years left

[0:09:04] Voice 1: on that of the term so there's going to be a concurrence happening here improvement around

[0:09:12] Voice 1: corporate governance and some version of what are we going to do together and the last thing i would

[0:09:19] say is one of the first things plus council needs to do and you might want to turn your minds to

[0:09:25] is what conversation can we have around common principle values and

[0:09:31] Voice 1: understandings of what plus

[0:09:33] Voice 1: council's here to view right now there isn't anything on the floor that says let's have that

[0:09:39] Voice 1: conversation so if tasked i can think that through and keep the quality of those things

[0:09:47] Voice 1: but i just point that out before we go into trust council that was my first item without being too

[0:09:53] Voice 1: profound sure okay just ask if there's any questions on that you said a lot i did and i

[0:10:00] Voice 1: certainly have some notions i'd like to clarify but vice chair do you have any remarks before the

[0:10:05] Voice 1: ceo has advised us just absorbing it all just absorbing it all in the area so

[0:10:14] Voice 3: i do have a

[0:10:15] Voice 3: question um just for clarification is i've read the report from the governance committee and

[0:10:21] Voice 3: the proposal of the corporate plan and are you suggesting that we might have a conversation about

[0:10:29] Voice 3: is the corporate plan proposal going to supersede the typical strategic planning

[0:10:35] Voice 3: process that the atlas trust has been going through because that is not well understood

[0:10:41] Voice 3: right now by the trustees coming in what that process was and are

[0:10:46] Voice 3: we already having a conversation

[0:10:47] Voice 3: about changing the strategic planning process and replacing it with a corporate um right governance

[0:10:56] Voice 3: sort of overview which may include vision values and some of the things that you're talking about

[0:11:03] Voice 3: yes

[0:11:03] Voice 1: so yes is almost what i'm going to say to you is the question is are these consecutive

[0:11:07] Voice 1: activities yeah are these well thought out um current activities if they're consecutive

[0:11:16] Voice 1: and we wait for by the way the strategic planning process and developing a corporate plan those two

[0:11:22] Voice 1: things at the honest trust are not that far apart no that

[0:11:25] Voice 1: that can be achieved but if we wait for

[0:11:28] Voice 1: one to happen completely before we do the other

[0:11:32] Voice 5: um

[0:11:33] Voice 1: i'm just pointing out that you're going to have

[0:11:36] Voice 1: a small window for success this term relative to your budget process and but you have to agree

[0:11:44] Voice 1: what you want to do um so there's some stewardship that ec needs to maintain around this without

[0:11:54] Voice 1: Without preempting the conversations that are happening in the governance committee.

[0:11:58] I don't know how long the government, they're going to put their good minds to it.

[0:12:01] I don't know how long they're going to take to give you

[0:12:03] Voice 1: information by which you can start to have a conversation.

[0:12:08] Voice 3: So my concern is whether vision and values are going to be embedded in this idea of a corporate governance approach.

[0:12:19] Voice 3: approach and therefore is that then owned by the governance committee and not by trust council as

[0:12:27] Voice 3: a whole is that the conversation no

[0:12:30] Voice 1: i mean sitting on governance committee um i just say a couple of

[0:12:35] Voice 1: things it's not entirely clear what the timeline of that transition to to a corporate planning

[0:12:43] Voice 1: process is going to look like and and i think the cao is right if there's things that we want to get

[0:12:49] Voice 1: it done strategically in this term,

[0:12:54] Voice 1: then we need to start thinking about that

[0:12:56] Voice 1: and advancing

[0:12:57] Voice 3: those

[0:12:58] Voice 1: things because it's not clear.

[0:13:01] Voice 1: Now, it may be that the finance committee subgroup

[0:13:05] Voice 1: working with the governance committee

[0:13:09] Voice 1: may be able to set up a corporate planning

[0:13:13] Voice 1: that can sort of be integrated with the strategic planning.

[0:13:16] Voice 1: I think that's really the ideal

[0:13:17] Voice 1: is to bring those things together.

[0:13:20] Voice 1: It may be that that can happen in a shorter timeline, but it's unclear at this point.

[0:13:26] Voice 1: We're starting with ideas.

[0:13:28] Voice 1: We don't have, we haven't like identified framework about how to stitch that all together.

[0:13:36] Voice 1: So, I mean, I take CAO's point that if there are things we feel are important, we need to start thinking about advancing them soon.

[0:13:44] Voice 1: we may fold them into that process if the process comes together in time but it's not entirely clear

[0:13:53] Voice 1: it may take it's possible that it could take the whole term to really set up that shift to the

[0:13:59] Voice 1: corporate planning model yes it's a it's kind of an unknown the work is you definitely have

[0:14:05] Voice 1: a mind for governance counts the committee but but that doesn't mean it's going to be achievable

[0:14:11] Voice 1: in the short term i think all things can be achieved personally um but at some point someone's

[0:14:20] Voice 1: going to come to ec and go where's the strategic direction of the organization i'm just giving you

[0:14:24] Voice 1: a um so you could task me with trying to develop some thinking around how all those things mesh

[0:14:33] Voice 1: together i've

[0:14:35] Voice 3: seen some documents and i'm starting to get lost in all the the documents so forgive me

[0:14:41] Voice 3: this has already been presented but um the last term strategic plan sort of a summary of where

[0:14:48] Voice 3: are we at what is the

[0:14:49] Voice 3: status of all those projects what parts need to be finished and then time to

[0:14:54] Voice 3: budget that has been or will be improved hopefully so

[0:14:58] Voice 1: we could actually do that in june we could

[0:15:01] Voice 1: really spend some time at session on the previous strategic planning process the current state of

[0:15:05] Voice 1: strategic plan options for going forward and then have that links to the government's process

[0:15:10] Voice 1: so

[0:15:11] Voice 2: i

[0:15:12] Voice 1: just want i didn't want to drag you off into a long conversation right now i just wanted to

[0:15:15] Voice 1: highlight that in case one large projects come up just off the table yeah

[0:15:22] Voice 1: or some general that's

[0:15:23] and that's my current

[0:15:24] Voice 1: understanding of strategic planning process and where we're at i like the

[0:15:29] Voice 3: idea of the vision sorry that you are visioning and values um might be a good time to get us

[0:15:39] Voice 3: maybe another one and i mean my

[0:15:41] Voice 1: ceo remarks to trust counsel

[0:15:43] Voice 1: and so um so thank you ceo and thank you vice chairs and um and uh vice chair elliott

[0:15:53] Voice 1: no need to be so kind of trying to cut me off my practice and we're getting to know each other as

[0:15:58] Voice 1: as much as we're getting to know council

[0:16:00] Voice 1: and council's getting to know each other,

[0:16:02] Voice 1: my practice is to allow the voices of the vice chairs

[0:16:04] Voice 1: to be heard more so than what is commonly perceived

[0:16:08] Voice 1: as the dominant voice of the chair.

[0:16:10] Voice 1: But however, I do take the opportunity

[0:16:13] Voice 1: to speak when I have to.

[0:16:14] Voice 1: And so on this topic,

[0:16:16] Voice 1: I want to thank the CAO for his presentation

[0:16:19] Voice 1: and your questions that you've had,

[0:16:20] Voice 1: because it took me a little while

[0:16:22] Voice 1: to totally get my head wrapped around it,

[0:16:25] Voice 1: but it's about for me it's about the concurrence reference and that the honest trust is a complex

[0:16:31] Voice 1: mosaic of policy and process and i believe and i assume and will behave in that fashion until i'm

[0:16:39] Voice 1: told otherwise that we have a process and policy in place associated with street planning and we

[0:16:45] Voice 1: will continue with what's on the table until we are directed to do otherwise and indeed the

[0:16:50] Voice 1: the Governance Committee and now Financial Planning Committee

[0:16:53] Voice 1: are working concurrently on looking at policy and process

[0:17:00] Voice 1: that currently conducts the activities that we're undertaking.

[0:17:03] Voice 1: And when that achieves some understanding of potential for change,

[0:17:13] Voice 1: ultimately that needs to come through us to Council,

[0:17:16] Voice 1: and Council directs us to change what we're doing.

[0:17:21] Voice 1: So in the short term, we will continue to do what we're doing.

[0:17:24] Voice 1: And indeed, on the notion of a big project coming along,

[0:17:27] Voice 1: the mantra has been it needs to be on a strategic plan,

[0:17:31] Voice 1: and I do believe that continues to be so.

[0:17:34] Voice 1: And we need to determine if we're taking on some other large project,

[0:17:38] Voice 1: where's the funding and the resources coming from?

[0:17:40] Voice 1: And so therefore, what projects do we want to take off the strategic plan

[0:17:44] Voice 1: in order to allow space for this potential new initiative,

[0:17:50] Voice 1: which may or may not exist but right um it's just hyper hypothetical um but i think it's important

[0:17:58] Voice 1: for us to have that conversation that understanding as the as the administrative leaders of the

[0:18:04] Voice 1: organization in order to convey that messaging as the ceo said to council to be sure that we're

[0:18:10] Voice 1: our expectations are realistic so you know i'm going to say a council to that this is a

[0:18:19] Voice 1: It's an important time for the Underbust.

[0:18:21] Voice 1: We're in this state of flux,

[0:18:22] Voice 1: and we're thinking about how we govern and why we govern.

[0:18:26] And we need to be clear on those

[0:18:28] Voice 1: questions,

[0:18:30] Voice 1: particularly on what we believe in and what our vision is.

[0:18:34] Voice 1: The mandate, to me, is paramount.

[0:18:38] Voice 1: And to be honest, how you interpret what the mandate says

[0:18:42] Voice 1: is different than what the mandate says in printed work.

[0:18:47] Voice 1: preserve and protect that's our rationale so in my sale comments i will touch on this topic

[0:18:54] Voice 1: with trust council and which will make them think and it will it's great won't have a common

[0:19:01] Voice 1: understanding right now or but it's the responsibility thank you so that was my

[0:19:07] Voice 1: first one i'll go back to you then so the second item is i've emailed you um just this morning to

[0:19:14] Voice 1: lori um a chair training so we've got chair training organized with lisa swarm you'll see

[0:19:23] Voice 1: her resume and cv attached she's preeminent in this field um and we've had some discussions that

[0:19:34] tough

[0:19:35] Voice 1: love kind of approach so it's okay i think uh you know in retrospect this is a good way to

[0:19:43] Voice 1: have this happen there's probably been a little pain at some ltc meetings but now you know what

[0:19:48] Voice 1: matters and what doesn't right and we can craft so direct pieces specifically in this area

[0:19:56] i would think within a month we'll be able to organize chair training for

[0:20:02] Voice 1: yourselves as vice

[0:20:03] Voice 1: chairs and council committee chairs and just find a day i think it's important that it's live

[0:20:08] Voice 1: yes and it would like to be hosted in victoria yes and i'm moving forward i just wanted to give

[0:20:16] Voice 1: you a fill-in um on the there's something in the status so her name is familiar we've worked with

[0:20:23] Voice 1: her before or you may not have um you'll see in her cv she's an instructor at capilano college

[0:20:30] Voice 1: um and is okay it's just coming off of months of doing this stuff for various councils

[0:20:37] Voice 1: as it stands right now. She's the deputy electoral officer for the province of BC, or has been.

[0:20:45] Voice 1: She is a program manager at the local government leadership academy, so maybe I would have

[0:20:49] Voice 1: seen her probably lecturing in that circumstance. Senior by-law enforcement officer with the

[0:20:58] Voice 1: city of surrey so there's very much some depth there

[0:21:01] Voice 5: yeah that's great

[0:21:04] Voice 1: is that something we had

[0:21:07] Voice 1: a bit of a challenge first time out but it's like we need it and here we are well circumstances may

[0:21:13] Voice 1: be to our benefit if she's come off the tour uh presenting this to other councils she's certainly

[0:21:18] Voice 1: i'm sure yeah um local uh on current affairs so to speak and great that's good news okay

[0:21:27] Okay, so we're going to get a couple of dates

[0:21:30] and then the agony of getting all of you

[0:21:34] Voice 1: plus the council committee chairs on one place at one time.

[0:21:40] Voice 1: Sooner the better.

[0:21:43] And ideally in person,

[0:21:45] but

[0:21:45] Voice 1: if scheduling is such that some can't participate in person

[0:21:49] Voice 1: and it is going to stall the process,

[0:21:53] Voice 1: I would sooner have them join electronically.

[0:21:55] Voice 1: And what would help, just if we have a moment,

[0:21:57] Voice 1: is email me any of your individual experiences

[0:22:03] Voice 5: over

[0:22:03] Voice 1: the last two or three months,

[0:22:05] Voice 5: and

[0:22:05] Voice 1: I'll build into that some education components

[0:22:11] Voice 1: that she will address,

[0:22:12] Voice 1: because this can be quite customizable.

[0:22:16] Voice 1: I'm thinking a day as opposed to a half day.

[0:22:19] Voice 1: A day would be good, yeah.

[0:22:21] Voice 1: Thanks.

[0:22:22] Voice 1: Okay.

[0:22:23] Voice 1: Now, I'm just going to work from the bodies in the room here,

[0:22:26] Voice 1: and I'm going to go to Director Claire Frader.

[0:22:30] Voice 2: So not a great, I'm sorry, I'm not quite ready for you, but not quite a full update ready,

[0:22:35] Voice 2: but our team is working as best they can. And we have a senior policy advisor on leave.

[0:22:43] Voice 2: Our senior intergovernmental policy advisor position is vacant. So we are supporting

[0:22:49] Voice 2: trust bodies, trust programs, community executive, and trust councils as best we can

[0:22:52] Voice 2: with that reduced capacity. So that's where we're working from. With regard to your follow-up action

[0:22:59] Voice 2: list we um have essentially are moving forward on most items we are still struggling along with

[0:23:04] Voice 2: trying to get letters out to first nations and are leaning

[0:23:06] Voice 2: into um having admin staff to help

[0:23:09] Voice 2: with that but of course given the departures that take you longer than we would like so i just want

[0:23:13] Voice 2: you to know we are committed to making that project happen um but we're doing it with the

[0:23:16] Voice 2: resources that we have i'm trying to become so that's really your director's update we are um

[0:23:22] Voice 2: looking forward to bringing you at your next meeting your tax notice insert um we're mailing

[0:23:28] Voice 2: out in writing mailboxes in June for consideration and we are about to hit send on emails to staff

[0:23:33] Voice 2: to start the annual reports and with regard to the policy statement process um director marler

[0:23:40] Voice 2: has graciously stepped in to help um with keeping the project moving forward so we look forward to

[0:23:45] Voice 2: working over the next few weeks to keep that process advancing and thanks to my colleagues

[0:23:50] Voice 2: for really standing on their shoulder and helping them keep that project moving

[0:23:54] Voice 2: in

[0:23:54] Voice 3: the Atlas episode, so he's back.

[0:23:57] Voice 3: I'm

[0:24:01] Voice 2: happy to take questions.

[0:24:02] Voice 2: Any

[0:24:02] Voice 1: questions from the vice-chancellors?

[0:24:05] Voice 1: So I just want to acknowledge,

[0:24:08] Voice 1: but before I say what I'm inclined to say,

[0:24:11] Voice 1: is noting that I am fully aware of my use of language

[0:24:18] Voice 1: and that we need to be culturally aware

[0:24:21] Voice 1: of the use of our language.

[0:24:23] Voice 1: And so I just wanted to say that when you talk about the we,

[0:24:27] Voice 1: We, that strikes me as the royal we, and that is definitely a colonial construct.

[0:24:34] Voice 1: However, I want to thank you, Claire, for when you say we, it means Director of Trusted Services is doing all this work.

[0:24:40] Voice 1: And I'm really glad that you've expanded that to your colleagues here to seek that support that you need in your department,

[0:24:46] Voice 1: because you're carrying a very large burden on your shoulders.

[0:24:50] Voice 1: And I also

[0:24:51] Voice 2: have a terrific team.

[0:24:53] Voice 2: that's really really helpful.

[0:24:55] Voice 1: So no further questions then we'll go to and I'm just going

[0:24:59] Voice 1: to follow the line of the table here go to the legislature manager David Marlin

[0:25:04] Voice 4: have you got

[0:25:04] Voice 4: anything to report? Nothing exciting to report the health action list is up to date and those

[0:25:11] Voice 4: two items first one will come to June trust council and the second one to September trust

[0:25:17] Voice 4: council. Other than that, it's helping out with things as the director indicated, and also in

[0:25:27] Voice 4: planning the victory. So all

[0:25:29] Voice 1: good. Great. Okay. Any questions? No. So again, I'm full of remarks.

[0:25:35] Voice 1: I want to thank you, David, for all the work that you do in your role of legislative services and

[0:25:39] Voice 1: secretary of the Downs Trust, and look forward to your support in the coming days in that role

[0:25:45] Voice 1: to guide us on our process and legislative requirements and we'll be leaning on you

[0:25:50] Voice 1: when and if necessary and i thank you for that thank you yeah um director uh sir

[0:25:56] Voice 1: not much to report in terms of the follow-up action list the one item i had is done

[0:26:05] Voice 1: so there you go uh in regards to other things i'll just simply say that the uh a lot of staff

[0:26:11] Voice 1: staff transition uh we're training new people to do the whole thing and a lot of help from

[0:26:18] Voice 1: uh director martyr in that regards especially administrative functions and we're all just

[0:26:23] Voice 1: trying to pull together as a team to sort of get by while we're down resources

[0:26:28] Voice 5: oh

[0:26:29] Voice 1: and I should I

[0:26:30] Voice 1: should add that we did have a housing form recently that the regional planning committee um sponsored

[0:26:35] Voice 1: sponsored um whereby the planning planners got together to discuss the housing issues and to

[0:26:41] Voice 1: rebuild the toolkits and some of the things that will be coming to the regional planning committee

[0:26:45] Voice 1: and you'll be coming up to trust council um it was a very successful day um it was a bit of an

[0:26:51] Voice 1: odd day in that we got together in person and you walk in the room you realize a lot of new planners

[0:26:58] Voice 1: a lot of new faces all in person haven't done this for a long time so realize how long it's

[0:27:02] Voice 1: then so it was a really nice transition also and you should be seeing the fruits of that labor

[0:27:06] Voice 1: shortly excellent and

[0:27:09] Voice 3: how will that be coming out exactly all trustees or just

[0:27:11] Voice 3: fnc so

[0:27:13] Voice 1: we'll be working with the regional planning committee uh working group the uh for the housing

[0:27:17] Voice 1: and so we're meeting staff are meeting this week uh the apticus council to sort of match together

[0:27:23] Voice 1: what the deliverables are and then we'll be taking to that group and we'll be discussing how to get

[0:27:28] Voice 1: that training out uh whether it's to you know i think that we'll talk to the working group to see

[0:27:33] Voice 1: how they want to deliver first the regional planning committee or the all fsts all at the

[0:27:38] Voice 1: same time we haven't answered for that yet but we'll be looking for that guidance any other

[0:27:43] Voice 1: questions to the director um just a remark um i'm not going to talk about specifics however you have

[0:27:51] Voice 1: We have two new, essentially two new regional planning

[0:27:54] Voice 1: managers in the region.

[0:27:57] Voice 1: And I just note that there needs to be a drawing together

[0:28:01] Voice 1: and gathering perhaps around yourself, David Muller

[0:28:04] Voice 1: and Robert Kajima, to ensure that the nature and quality

[0:28:10] Voice 1: and type of services being delivered uniformly

[0:28:13] Voice 1: across the trust area.

[0:28:14] Voice 1: And you and I can talk about that offline as well.

[0:28:17] Voice 1: So just noting that we're in a time of transition.

[0:28:20] Voice 1: where as relatively senior members of the team are new

[0:28:25] Voice 1: and with a new council,

[0:28:28] Voice 1: there's an opportunity for us to be sure

[0:28:31] Voice 1: that we're delivering the same content to everybody.

[0:28:33] Voice 1: Sure.

[0:28:34] Voice 1: We'll look and we'll feedback.

[0:28:36] Voice 3: So I have a question.

[0:28:38] Voice 3: I saw there was a summary of the hires

[0:28:41] Voice 3: and people who are outgoing.

[0:28:43] Voice 3: Just how many new planners are we dealing with right now?

[0:28:48] Voice 1: I don't have that number.

[0:28:49] Voice 3: I think it's in the agenda.

[0:28:51] Voice 1: Yeah, it's in the Trust Council.

[0:28:53] Voice 1: But there's

[0:28:54] Voice 3: been lots of turnover.

[0:28:55] Voice 1: Yeah, and we still have some vacancies.

[0:28:57] Voice 1: We have three vacancies in planning that I'm aware of.

[0:29:00] Voice 1: So that's

[0:29:02] Voice 1: we're hoping to kill those

[0:29:03] Voice 1: one bit.

[0:29:05] Voice 1: Okay, let us continue

[0:29:07] Voice 1: then, and I apologize

[0:29:08] Voice 1: I don't have an electronic

[0:29:11] Voice 1: view going on here.

[0:29:13] Voice 1: Are there other directors online

[0:29:15] Voice 1: that we need to present to us today?

[0:29:18] Voice 1: Okay, thank you.

[0:29:19] Voice 1: so then let us go to local trust committee chair updates if you have some brief reports on any

[0:29:23] Voice 1: ltc meetings since our last telecom a week a week ago all right so we'll just continue on

[0:29:30] Voice 1: that i don't have anything to report either uh i was just conservancy liaison update nothing there

[0:29:35] Voice 1: either so trust council meeting preparation all that work is done and i don't believe there's any

[0:29:41] Voice 1: late items coming to us this structure scanning all of those sections um i'll just come to new

[0:29:48] Voice 1: new business in a second, but with respect to Trust Council meeting preparation, is there

[0:29:52] Voice 1: anything?

[0:29:54] Voice 1: Nothing.

[0:29:55] Voice 1: Okay.

[0:29:56] Voice 1: I do want to ask a question.

[0:30:00] Voice 1: it is i guess it started from trustee morrison on the north pender asked about the letter from

[0:30:08] Voice 1: the province with respect to the tree cutting authority and what their remarks were when

[0:30:17] Voice 1: that came about and so this just happened the other day and the request was for that letter

[0:30:24] Voice 1: from the province explaining the uh tree cutting authority um be um be available on the internet

[0:30:33] Voice 1: on our website i would imagine that it is but if there's a project area or something that that

[0:30:38] Voice 1: should be and then that kind of dovetails into because all part and parcel in my mind salt

[0:30:44] Voice 1: of course is the most recent letter which came late um um dr schuster um that should also be

[0:30:53] Voice 1: perhaps made available to council given the topics of discussion that may be rising

[0:30:59] Voice 1: in the agenda because it's a fairly important issue for council it's going to come up um we

[0:31:05] Voice 1: do have a a notice of motion to that effect and the more information we have better in the new

[0:31:12] Voice 1: business section i think regarding the treatment that's working for thursday oh there's appearances

[0:31:16] Voice 1: um mr chair the first letter from the province part i'm when my clothes are going to help me

[0:31:23] Voice 1: i'm not recalling that yeah it could be some time ago yeah we

[0:31:29] Voice 2: have one letter from 2021

[0:31:31] Voice 2: where a director it was i think they were pre-election provincially and we have a letter

[0:31:35] Voice 2: from a director that's posted to the website i think that's the only yeah of course i'll say

[0:31:39] Voice 1: these are the corresponding services of course and we'll sort that out but what we should we

[0:31:44] Voice 1: should indeed ensure that all the information we have is readily available okay i might not

[0:31:51] Voice 1: been capturing it quite right um so then that's all just to be aware that there's some stuff out

[0:31:57] Voice 1: there and the more information we have available to trustees and the other letters being sent

[0:32:00] Voice 1: right now yes the link item from schuster okay

[0:32:05] Voice 2: yes we would not typically close that to the website

[0:32:07] Voice 2: so what we have is advocacy letters page which is letters from a trust body and then any responses

[0:32:14] Voice 2: received from other levels of government so

[0:32:16] Voice 1: that particular letter would end

[0:32:18] Voice 2: up any letters that

[0:32:19] Voice 2: come or go unless unless we have an administrative miss all letters are on the advocacy letters page

[0:32:23] Voice 1: okay so yeah okay great so that's the clarity that we need to have is that that information

[0:32:29] Voice 1: is available um for those that are inquiring yes perfect okay um so let us uh so then if there's

[0:32:37] Voice 1: nothing birds are associated with trust council meeting preparation then executive committee

[0:32:41] Voice 1: projects i don't see anything on the agenda for today for that so under new business areas we

[0:32:47] Voice 1: We don't have anything other than any LTC reports on local advocacy topics.

[0:32:51] Voice 1: I'm assuming you haven't met, so there's not any initiatives.

[0:32:54] Voice 1: Although I will note, particularly from Gabriola, there is definitely an advocacy initiative needing to be developed.

[0:33:03] Voice 1: That's a decision of the council, I think, around the NAP Canada aircraft path changes.

[0:33:10] Voice 1: I have still not heard anything back from the province, and I don't know if anybody else had.

[0:33:14] Voice 1: or from the from nav canada actually it's not a crown uh agency it's a private corporation and

[0:33:21] Voice 1: and so there's definitely uh we have no i have noted in my uh request to them and the public

[0:33:29] Voice 1: has noted that the this method of engaging with the community was inadequate so that may be

[0:33:36] Voice 1: something we're going to see at council um so then we didn't add that additional occur oh no we didn't

[0:33:44] Voice 1: We've got correspondence in our agenda, so now the opportunity is to determine what to do with the agenda that's there.

[0:33:52] Voice 1: We would receive all of these for information, unless there's other actions required.

[0:33:57] Voice 1: I'm just going to ask Vice Chairs, with respect to correspondence on 10.1 through 10.5,

[0:34:02] Voice 1: is there any additional direction that you would like to take with respect to these pieces of correspondence?

[0:34:08] Voice 1: some of them will have already been circulated to all by all trustees by the writer others will

[0:34:15] Voice 1: have not been and so i'm just going to turn to my shares david mom miss gang's um letter there

[0:34:22] Voice 1: it seemed there was a misunderstanding as to whose meeting it was yes was any clarification

[0:34:28] Voice 1: sent back to her since they look it wasn't a trust meeting it was a minister's meeting

[0:34:32] Voice 1: just to sort of like well i well i think david she got a letter back from the ministry

[0:34:38] Voice 1: that's correct okay that's yeah so she got a letter from the minister's office correctly

[0:34:44] Voice 1: yeah because they just it seemed that she sort of was going off the wrong track right and sort of

[0:34:51] Voice 1: wanted to make sure that she understood that we weren't bad people

[0:34:55] Voice 3: so yeah following up though

[0:34:57] Voice 3: so she got a letter back from the minister but then we discussed an executive following that

[0:35:02] Voice 3: by thought to say well this was not the reason it wasn't an open meeting because I think she

[0:35:09] Voice 3: was asking for a response from us why was this not and so that's what I'm asking did she get

[0:35:15] Voice 3: a letter back from us I

[0:35:16] Voice 2: don't believe so

[0:35:17] Voice 3: about why that was not an open meeting because it wasn't

[0:35:20] Voice 3: clear it's clear from the minister's letter once we read it and discussed it oh yes we don't set

[0:35:27] Voice 3: the terms for um their meetings uh we were invited but i don't think we followed up with the letter

[0:35:34] Voice 3: to when that

[0:35:38] Voice 1: letter originally came and we got i was surprised to see the ministry responded in

[0:35:44] Voice 1: such a quick fashion actually but they did and that kind of over uh steps um a process of hearing

[0:35:49] Voice 1: but if i'm not mistaken david i did ask you that because i thought we should respond there because

[0:35:54] Voice 1: it was clearly misunderstanding and

[0:35:56] Voice 4: is that still a work in progress then or yeah i think so i don't

[0:36:00] Voice 4: remember uh responding to hers no okay well i think

[0:36:03] Voice 1: as the agency which the question has been

[0:36:07] Voice 1: asked it is reasonable to respond and i think that my interpretation of that is and according

[0:36:12] Voice 1: to the legislative services manager my interpretation of that whole thing is that was

[0:36:17] Voice 1: was not our meeting it's not for us to call through camera or in camera we were guests

[0:36:21] Voice 1: and um that's the end of it so yeah yeah i've never heard of this in 30 years if the minister

[0:36:29] Voice 1: asks you to speak you go as an entity and have a conversation i think that explained that there's

[0:36:36] Voice 1: no more there there you you don't let's take the logical conclusion of this meeting how many

[0:36:43] Voice 1: hundred people would be in the minister's office um conducting an open meeting it's just not a

[0:36:49] Voice 1: it's just not a mechanism to apply yeah and so i think a fairly straightforward phone call

[0:36:58] or yeah or just a brief note would do that i've

[0:37:02] Voice 1: never heard any member of the public complain

[0:37:05] about um

[0:37:07] Voice 1: someone having access to the minister and discussing on behalf of trust council or any other

[0:37:12] Voice 1: body the interest of the honest trust usually that's a benefit you know so so i wouldn't put

[0:37:18] Voice 1: too much i guess what i'm trying to say is let's not put too much administrative effort into no it

[0:37:25] Voice 1: just needs to be a simple paragraph um in order to answer the question because the question was

[0:37:31] Voice 1: asked and i'll come to tim in a second but quite honestly if the minister asked us for a meeting

[0:37:37] Voice 1: i go to the meeting i don't ask i don't set any rules around what the meeting should be and how

[0:37:43] Voice 1: it should be because although because in that event we wouldn't be invited to meetings anymore

[0:37:48] Voice 1: and we need to have access to that we've asked for greater access to the minister and that's how it

[0:37:53] Voice 1: happens yeah i just wanted to point out that i mean you know the end of the letter uh is a request

[0:38:00] Voice 1: that recordings or minutes of future meetings between island stress and and the minister are

[0:38:06] Voice 1: are made available to the public so i wonder um i mean i feel like we should address that

[0:38:12] Voice 1: in a really straightforward way yeah so so that there's not an expectation that a

[0:38:17] Voice 1: we haven't you know said anything about that but just to make it really clear what what

[0:38:24] Voice 1: yeah well so you know i just realized it's my bad i uh emailed david mahler when i received

[0:38:32] Voice 1: the letter and said hey david would be really great if you could respond to that david mahler

[0:38:37] Voice 1: takes around one second so i i think that by general consent i think that we can agree that

[0:38:45] Voice 1: it would be appreciated if david muller could respond to his gang in the uh as for the discussion

[0:38:50] Voice 1: yeah

[0:38:51] Voice 4: i'll come with you see on the response yes okay right yeah

[0:38:54] Voice 1: i just feel like that that that

[0:38:57] Voice 1: her request should be just addressed really clearly so that there's just total understanding

[0:39:03] Voice 1: of what is our role and ability to address

[0:39:07] Voice 1: and what is not.

[0:39:09] Voice 1: If the minister wants to make recordings

[0:39:11] Voice 1: and minutes available,

[0:39:13] Voice 1: that's up to them,

[0:39:13] Voice 1: but that's not something we get to choose.

[0:39:15] Voice 1: So let's just say formally

[0:39:18] Voice 1: that the executive committee has asked for that.

[0:39:20] Voice 1: Okay, I'm not going to make a motion on it

[0:39:23] Voice 1: because it turned to me.

[0:39:24] Voice 4: No, it's fine.

[0:39:25] Voice 4: I haven't.

[0:39:25] Voice 4: So

[0:39:25] Voice 1: anything else?

[0:39:28] Voice 1: So 10.2 through 10.5,

[0:39:30] Voice 1: we'll just receive them for information.

[0:39:32] Voice 1: all right thank you very much vice chairs so work program is presented to us here for information

[0:39:38] Voice 1: it's actually not attached today normally would be on our normal agenda our next meeting is

[0:39:44] Voice 1: electronic march 22nd and and we don't have a closed meeting session so that i think concludes

[0:39:52] Voice 1: our meeting today unless there's any further remarks from anybody at the table okay so

[0:39:58] Voice 1: So looking forward to the next three days, and we'll see you all downstairs in a couple of hours.

[0:40:06] Voice 1: All the meeting adjourned. All those in favor? Thank you.

The minutes

Official minutes as published by the Islands Trust (source), text extracted automatically.

Island Trust Council Quarterly Meeting  Minutes 
March 7-9, 2023 ADOPTED Page 1 of 21 
 
Trust Council 
Minutes of Regular Meeting 
 
Date:  
 
Location:  
 
March 7-9, 2023 
 
Coast Bastion Hotel - Ballroom 
11 Bastion Street, Nanaimo, British Columbia 
 
Executive Present: 1. Peter Luckham, Chair, Thetis 
 2. David Maude, Vice-Chair, Mayne 
 3. Tim Peterson, Vice-Chair, Lasqueti 
4. Tobi Elliott, Vice-Chair, Gabriola 
 
Trustees Present: 5. Deb Morrison, North Pender 
6. Joe Bernardo, Gambier/Keats 
 7. Aaron Campbell, North Pender 
8. Grant Scott, Hornby 
9. Susan Yates, Gabriola 
10. Dag Falck, South Pender 
11. Ben Mabberley, Galiano 
12. Jeanine Dodds, Mayne (periodically attended electronically) 
13. Alex Allen, Hornby 
14. Sam Borthwick, Denman 
15. Ken Hunter, Thetis 
16. Mikaila Lironi, Lasqueti 
17. Lisa Gauvreau, Galiano 
18. Judith Gedye, Bowen Municipal 
19. Kristina Evans, South Pender 
20. Laura Patrick, Salt Spring 
21. Jamie Harris, Salt Spring 
22. Mairead Boland, Saturna 
23. Kate Louise Stamford, Gambier 
24. Sue Ellen Fast, Bowen Municipal 
 25. Lee Middleton, Saturna 
 26. David Graham, Denman (attended electronically) 
  
Staff Present: Russ Hotsenpiller, Chief Administrative Officer 
 David Marlor, Director, Legislative Services 
 Clare Frater, Director, Trust Area Services 
 Julia Mobbs, Director, Administrative Services 
 Stefan Cermak, Director, Planning Services 
 Lori Foster, Executive Coordinator/Recorder 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
Island Trust Council Quarterly Meeting  Minutes 
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Tuesday, March 7, 2023 
 
The in-person meeting was recorded, livestreamed and made available for electronic attendance.  It was 
noted there were 80 live stream views from 1:00 p.m. to 5:30 p.m. 
 
1. CALL TO ORDER / LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT 
 
Chair Luckham opened the meeting stating his pleasure and honor to be holding the meeting on 
Snuneymuxw First Nation’s territory and, that we all live broadly on Coast Salish territory.  He 
thanked staff for their work then invited each member of Trust Council to introduce themselves 
roundtable where many gave land acknowledgments pertinent to their local trust areas. 
 
Elder Lolly’s, Snuneymuxw First Nation’s welcome was delayed, see after item 3.2. 
 
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 
 
Chair Luckham noted new information regarding item 4.2.2., “Trust Council 2023 On Island 
Meetings” that, a June in-person meeting is now available which would have budget implications 
and to defer this to item 7.2.4. Budget Changes. 
 
Trustee Scott requested to show a newly released video titled, “The Silver Highway” regarding the 
herring migration in the Hornby Island Local Trust Area.  Chair Luckham suggested it could be shown 
Wednesday evening. 
 
By general consent, the agenda was adopted as presented. 
 
3. GENERAL BUSINESS ARISING 
 
3.1 Consent Agenda Items 
 
Trustee Morrison requested a status update on Chief Administrative Officer (CAO) 
Hotsenpiller’s FUAL item #1 at 3.1.3 Trust Council Follow-up Action List re: approaching the 
Province of BC to request additional funding.   
 
Chief Administrative Officer (CAO) Hotsenpiller responded, this item continues to be 
pursued.   
 
By general consent, Islands Trust Council adopted the recommendations as presented in 
items 3.1.1 to 3.1.3. 
3.1.1 November 2022 Trust Council draft meeting minutes 
The minutes be adopted as presented. 
3.1.2 December 2022 Trust Council draft meeting minutes 
The minutes be adopted as presented. 
3.1.3 Trust Council Follow-up Action List 
Receive for information. 
 
3.2 Discussion / Decision Items 
 
3.2.1 Trustee Roundtable 
 

 
Island Trust Council Quarterly Meeting  Minutes 
March 7-9, 2023 ADOPTED Page 3 of 21 
Each trustee gave a verbal update about their local trust area committee meetings 
and advocacy work. 
 
Chair Luckham asked trustees to provide email feedback regarding how valuable the 
“trustee roundtable” session is or would they like a more topic focused session 
rather than “local business”. 
 
The meeting recessed for a break at 2:18 p.m. and reconvened at 2:22 p.m. 
 
When the meeting reconvened, Chair Luckham welcomed Elder Lolly of Snuneymuxw First Nation 
thanking her for joining Trust Council on short notice. 
 
Elder Lolly greeted Trust Council, ꞌuyꞌ skweyul, uy kwunus 'i' lum'namu (good day, it is good to see 
you).  Elder Lolly offered blessings then, engaging with instruments handed out earlier, everyone 
sang a song called ꞌUyꞌ Skweyul as taught by Elder Lolly.   
 
Chair Luckham thanked Elder Lolly for bringing her leadership to Trust Council. 
 
4. EXECUTIVE 
 
4.1 Consent Agenda Items 
 
Item 4.1.1 was pulled for discussion regarding the coordination and implementation of the 
Strategic Plan which does not appear on Executive Committee’s work program.  
 
CAO Hotsenpiller spoke to strategic planning in 4.2.1; that Executive Committee is aware it 
needs to address this conversation; however, the Governance Committee is currently 
steering a review of these functions - corporate and strategic planning – as well as values 
questions. 
 
By general consent, Islands Trust Council adopted the recommendation as presented in 
item 4.1.1. 
4.1.1 Executive Committee Work Program Report 
That Trust Council approve the report as presented. 
 
4.2 Discussion / Decision Items 
 
4.2.1 Chief Administrative Officer's Report 
 
Chief Administrative Officer (CAO) Hotsenpiller spoke to his report and updated 
Trust Council regarding: 
 Chair training for all standing committees, setting a date and consideration 
of vice-chair attendance, 
 Surveying trustees about the ongoing education process; June’s Trust 
Council meeting to have survey results, consideration regarding “how” 
learning is delivered,  
 Scheduling a special electronic Trust Council meeting to consider a draft 
protocol agreement between Snaw’naw’as/Nanoose First Nation and 
Lasqueti Island Local Trust Committee (LTC) is pending. 
 

 
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4.2.2 Trust Council 2023 on Island Meetings – BRF 
 
Item 4.2.2 was deferred to item 7.2.4 Budget Changes pending new information 
regarding availability of a location on Gabriola for Trust Council’s June meeting. 
 
4.2.3 Revision of Sunshine Coast Regional District Funding Support Letter - RFD 
 
Director of Planning Services (DPS) Cermak answered trustee questions regarding 
the request for support letter. 
 
Discussion ensued on jurisdictional grant funding; grant funding available to the 
Islands Trust via Union of British Columbia Municipalities (UBCM) requirements and 
administrative processes regarding grants. 
 
Discussion to remove the words from the recommendation in the request for 
decision (RFD) report “on behalf of the Islands Trust” ensued. 
 
TC-2023-001 
It was Moved by Trustee Stamford and Seconded by Trustee Bernardo, 
That the Islands Trust Council request staff to write a letter of support under the 
Chair’s signature stating that the Islands Trust Council supports the Sunshine Coast 
Regional District applying for, receiving, and managing the 2022 Community 
Emergency Preparedness – Disaster Risk Reduction-Climate Adaption Grant. 
 
CARRIED 
The meeting recessed for a break at 3:08 p.m. and reconvened 3:15 p.m.   
 
4.2.4 Council Committee System Policy Update and Consolidation - RFD 
 
Director of Legislative Services (DLS) Marlor spoke to the request for decision (RFD) 
which intends to consolidate standing committee terms of references and include a 
Governance Committee member on the Financial Planning Committee. 
 
TC-2023-002 
It was Moved by Trustee Gedye and Seconded by Trustee Peterson, 
That Trust Council adopt the revised Trust Council Policy 2.3.1 [Council Committee 
System and Terms of References] dated March 7, 2023 that adds Governance 
Committee membership to the Financial Planning Committee, includes the terms of 
reference for all council committees and removes reference to the Executive 
Committee; and further move 
That Trust Council rescind policies 2.3.2 [Regional Planning Committee Terms of 
Reference], 2.3.3 [Financial Planning Committee Terms of Reference]. 2.3.4 [Trust 
Programs Committee Terms of Reference], and 2.3.5 (Governance Committee Terms 
of Reference]. 
CARRIED 
 
 
 
 
 

 
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4.2.5 Establishment of an Accessibility Committee – RFD 
 
Director of Legislative Services (DLS) Marlor spoke to the request for decision, that 
the operating budget or this committee is proposed at $2,500 and the committee 
could require a consultant to write a plan.  
 
Trustees recommended the following minor changes to the policy as presented in 
the agenda package: 
 Page 74 of the agenda package, (page 2 of the attachment) proposed 
section 1.1.8 as highlighted in yellow item 6. add the words “people with a 
disability” after the words “or support”, 
 Page 73 of the agenda package, section 1.1.1., replace the word “four” with 
“five”, 
 Page 74, section 1.1.2., add to the end, “and ratified by Trust Council.”, 
 Section 1.1.3 replace the words, “by the March Trust Council” with “no later 
than the March Trust Council”, 
 Section 1.1.8.  
o Item 1. after the words “with disabilities” add “or who have a 
disability”,  
o Item 2. Add “at least one person and” before the words “up to 3”.  
 
The following discussions regarding substantive changes to the proposed policy 
ensued: 
 The number of Trust Council members actually on the committee should be 
less, 
 Section 1.1.9, for consistency, add to the end, “Trust Council will ratify the 
appointments under section 1.1.8 items 1, 2 and 3.” 
 Section 1.1.8, items 1, 2, 3 and 4 prefaced with “up to” could be interpreted 
as zero and should be changed to read “ a minimum of one and up to four”, 
 Section 1.1.8, item 2  the number of Indigenous participants should not 
have a cap, 
 Clarification on “organizations that support people with disabilities” and 
vetting of organizations requested, 
 Interpretation of the new legislation. 
 
TC-2023-003 
It was Moved by Trustee Morrison and Seconded by Trustee Peterson, 
That Trust Council request interested trustees to work with Director of Legislative 
Services Marlor to provide input and revision to the draft Accessibility Committee 
terms of reference and bring it back to the June Trust Council. 
CARRIED 
 
DLS Marlor will send an email to all trustees requesting further input from those 
interested. 
 
4.2.6 Financial Planning Committee Membership - RFD 
 
DLS Marlor spoke to the request for decision. 
 

 
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Discussion ensued that the wording “to ensure the Committee represents all 16 
bodies of Trust Council” be removed from the recommendation as written. 
 
TC-2023-004 
It was Moved by Trustee Peterson and Seconded by Trustee Gedye, 
That Trust Council ask the Governance Committee to review the current method of 
appointment and the make-up of membership for Trust Council standing 
committees. 
CARRIED 
 
4.2.7 Minister Cullen response re: Provincial Review request letter dated September 23, 
2022 – BRF 
 
Trust Council discussed a further response to the minister. 
 
TC-2023-005 
It was Moved by Trustee Elliott and Seconded by Trustee Yates, 
That Trust Council direct Executive Committee to work with staff on a coordinated 
strategy and prepare a request that the province revisit the provincial grant funding 
formula to the Islands Trust in light of its mandate and in light of the pressing needs 
of affordable housing, climate change and reconciliation with First Nations in the 
Trust Area. 
 
TC-2023-006 
It was Moved by Trustee Scott and Seconded by Trustee Campbell, 
That TC-2023-005 be amended as follows: after “in light of the pressing needs of” 
delete and replace with “increased responsibilities for reconciliation with First 
Nations in the Trust Area, climate change and affordable housing.” 
CARRIED 
 
TC-2023-005 as amended by TC-2023-006 to read as follows: 
 
That Trust Council direct Executive Committee to work with staff on a coordinated 
strategy and prepare a request that the Province revisit the provincial grant funding 
formula to the Islands Trust in light of its mandate and increased responsibilities for 
reconciliation with First Nations in the Trust Area, climate change and affordable 
housing. 
 
TC-2023-007 
It was Moved by Trustee Boland and Seconded by Trustee Harris, 
Amend the above motion by removing “in light of its mandate and increased 
responsibilities for reconciliation with First Nations in the Trust Area, climate change 
and affordable housing.” 
CARRIED 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
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Chair Luckham called the question on TC-2023-005 as amended by 006 and 007. 
 
That Trust Council direct Executive Committee to work with staff on a coordinated 
strategy and prepare a request that the Province revisit the provincial grant funding 
formula to the Islands Trust. 
CARRIED  
 
Trust Council discussed updating the recently appointed Minister of Municipal 
Affairs, Anne Kang regarding revisiting a review of Islands Trust. 
 
TC-2023-008 
It was Moved by Trustee Boland and Seconded by Trustee Dodds, 
That Trust Council respond to Minister Kang to the effect that Trust Council will 
revisit the request for a review of Islands Trust mandate, governance and structure, 
at September Trust Council and provide the minister with an update. 
CARRIED 
 
4.2.8 Governance Committee Chair Report 
 
Chair of the Governance Committee, Municipal Trustee Gedye reported that the 
committee’s work is in progress as presented in the attached report. 
 
5. TRUST AREA SERVICES 
 
5.1 Consent Agenda Items 
 
Items 5.1.1 and 5.1.4 were pulled for discussion as noted. 
 
By general consent, Islands Trust Council adopted the recommendations as presented in 
items 5.1.1. to 5.1.4. 
5.1.1 Director of Trust Area Services (DTAS) Report 
 
DTAS Frater gave a staffing update on the hiring of a Communications Specialist and 
Senior Indigenous Policy Advisor. 
 
Received for information. 
 
5.1.2 Trust Programs Committee Work Program Report 
Trust Council approved the report as presented. 
5.1.3 Islands Trust Conservancy Report 3rd and 4th Quarters 2022-2023 
Received for information. 
5.1.4 Legislative Monitoring Report, February 2023 - BRF 
 
DTAS Frater responded that the frequency of providing this report every six months 
is under the current direction of Trust Council. 
 
Received for information. 
 
The meeting recessed for a break at 5:30 p.m. and reconvened at 7:00 p.m. 
 

 
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6. ENGAGEMENT / COLLABORATION 
 
It was noted there were 137 live stream views during the delegations and public comments session with 
approximately 11 electronic attendees and 4 members of the public in-person. 
 
At 7:00 p.m., Chair Luckham reconvened the meeting and trustees introduced themselves roundtable.  First 
Nations land acknowledgements were given by many trustees representing their various local trust areas.  
 
6.1 Delegations 
 
The following delegations addressed Trust Council as published in the agenda package. 
 
6.1.1 Gulf Islands Alliance re: Climate Emergency and Biodiversity Collapse 
6.1.2 Raincoast Conservation Foundation re:  Adopt Goals in Montreal Pledge 
6.1.3 David Dunnison re: Valid Invalid Information 
Addressed Trust Council in-person in Nanaimo. 
 6.1.4 Maxine Leichter re: Bylaw enforcement procedures Policy 5.5.1 being more effective 
  and transparent 
6.1.5 Riane da Silva re: How the Islands Trust and Bylaw Enforcement Violate the Human 
Right to Housing 
Addressed Trust Council in-person in Nanaimo. 
6.1.6 Eric Booth re: Application processing 
6.1.7 Michael Sketch re: On a positive obligation give by the Act.... 
Addressed Trust Council in-person in Nanaimo 
 
6.2 Public Comments 
 
Approximately 10 members of the public were present electronically and three in-person. 
 
The following members of the public addressed Trust Council as noted: 
 
Elizabeth White, Salt Spring Island, spoke in opposition to Trustee Harris’s request for 
decision (item 14.1 of the agenda).  She urged council to vote no if the recommendation is 
put on the table. 
 
Bob McKenchie and Don Elkington, Gabriola Island, spoke to a lack of consultation by NAV 
Canada’s proposed flight path changes affecting Gabriola and other islands in the Trust Area 
requesting Trust Council follow the City of Port Moody’s initiative in writing a formal 
response of opposition. 
 
Jennifer Margison, Galiano Island, spoke to the trucking of fresh water to the islands as 
presented in her correspondence circulated as a late item and received at 12.9. in the 
merged agenda package. 
 
Mary Beth Rondeau, North Pender Island, addressed the validity of science regarding 
mapping the Coastal Douglas-fir zone in the Trust Area. 
 
Trustees Yates and Elliott left the meeting at 9:44 p.m. 
 
By general consent, at 9:47 p.m., the meeting was recessed for the evening. 

 
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Wednesday, March 8, 2023 
 
At 9:01 a.m., Chair Luckham called the meeting to order.  All trustees were present.  Trustee Graham 
attended electronically. 
 
No members of the public were present electronically.  It was reported there were 163 live stream views on 
March 8. 
 
7. ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES / FINANCE 
 
7.1 Consent Agenda Items 
 
By general consent, Islands Trust Council adopted the recommendations as presented in 
items 7.1.1 to 7.1.4. 
7.1.1 Director of Administrative Services Report 
Receive for information. 
7.1.2 Financial Planning Committee Work Program Report 
That Trust Council approve the report as presented. 
7.1.3 Q3 Financial Report to December 31, 2022 - RFD 
That Trust Council approve the December 31, 2022 financial report. 
7.1.4 Financial Forecast as at December 31, 2022 
Received for information.  
 
7.2 Discussion / Decision Items 
 
Chair of the Financial Planning Committee (FPC), Bernardo, spoke to the proposed budget 
on behalf of the work of FPC.   
 
7.2.1 March 2023 Islands Trust Council 2023/24 Proposed Budget - Session Outline 
 
Received for information as presented. 
 
7.2.2 2023/24 Draft Budget Assumptions and Principles – BRF  
 
Director of Administrative Services (DAS) Mobbs reviewed the briefing as presented 
and answered trustee questions.   
 
7.2.3 Draft 2023/24 Budget Overview – BRF 
 
DAS Mobbs reviewed the briefing as presented and answered trustee questions. 
 
7.2.4 Financial Planning Committee (FPC) Budget Changes – BRF 
 
Trust Council discussed item 4.2.2 Trust Council 2023 on-island meeting sin 
consideration of amending the budget to include funds for a June Trust Council 
in-person meeting, that space is now available on Gabriola Island at the Haven.  
 
The briefing was received for information. 
 

 
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7.2.5 Budget Numeric Detail 
 
Received for information. 
 
7.2.6 Surplus Funds Allocation 
 
DAS Mobbs answered questions regarding surplus funds allocation. 
 
7.2.7 Business Case Summaries 
 
Trust Council discussed the business case summaries as presented. 
 
The meeting recessed for a break at 11:05 a.m. and reconvened at 11:21 a.m. 
 
Discussion ensued on the budget requests as presented. 
 
7.2.8 Strategic Plan Projects - Budget Requests 
 
Received for information. 
 
7.2.9 Local Trust Committee (LTC) Projects - Budget Requests and Feasibility 
 
Received for information. 
 
7.2.10 Operational Projects and Staffing - Budget Requests 
 
DAS Mobbs spoke to the budget requests and answered trustee questions. 
 
7.2.11 Islands Trust Conservancy (ITC) Board Budget Request 
 
Received for information. 
 
7.2.12 Business Cases Not Advanced 
 
Received for information. 
 
7.2.13 Results of the public consultation process for the proposed Special Tax Requisition 
2023/24 budget – BRF 
 
Received for information. 
 
7.2.14 Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee (SSI LTC) Special Tax Requisition Request – 
RFD 
 
Director of Planning Services (DPS) Cermak addressed the request for decision as 
presented. 
 
Discussion ensued that not all islands taxed in the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Area 
receive benefit from this special tax requisition. 
 

 
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The meeting recessed for lunch at 12:10 p.m. and reconvened at 1:00 p.m.  
 
8. PLANNING SERVICES 
 
Chair Luckham reconvened the meeting and welcomed all back. 
 
8.1 Consent Agenda Items 
 
Items 8.1.1. and 8.1.3 were pulled for discussion as noted. 
 
By general consent, Islands Trust Council adopted the recommendations as presented in 
items 8.1.1. to 8.1.3. 
8.1.1 Director of Planning Services Report 
 
Director of Planning Services (DPS) Cermak answered questions regarding 1) the 
new CityView software for planning and referral tracking and, 2) groundwater 
assessment and recharge mapping. 
 
Received for information. 
 
8.1.2 Regional Planning Committee Work Program Report 
That Trust Council approve the report as presented. 
 
8.1.3 Bylaw Enforcement Statistical Reports - Briefing 
 
Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement Manager, Dingman answered trustee questions 
regarding the statistical reporting in the briefing. 
 
Received for information. 
 
8.2 Discussion / Decision Items 
 
8.2.1 Bylaw Enforcement Policies and Practices Overview - Session Outline 
 
Director of Planning Services (DPS) Cermak introduced the session and welcomed    
Matthew Jackson, Policy Analyst, Ministry of Attorney General’s Office who shared a 
PowerPoint titled “Bylaw Notice Program” and answered trustee questions 
following the presentation. 
 
Sara Darling and Jennifer Jones from the Office of the Ombudsperson shared a 
PowerPoint titled “The Office of the Ombudsperson: Administrative Fairness and 
Bylaw Complaints”. 
 
Both PowerPoint presentations were made available in the merged agenda package.  
 
A question and answer session followed. 
 
8.2.2 Bylaw Enforcement Policy and Practices Overview – Briefing 
 

 
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Received for information. 
 
Trustee Dodds left the meeting at 2:28 p.m. 
 
The meeting recessed for a break at 3:00 p.m. and reconvened at 3:15 p.m. 
 
Discussion continued regarding bylaw enforcement practices and policies.  Staff 
answered trustees’ questions. 
 
TC-2023-009 
It was Moved by Trustee Bernardo and Seconded by Trustee Borthwick, 
THAT the Director of Planning Services request the Office of the Ombudsperson to 
undertake a comprehensive review of the enforcement related policies and 
practices of the Islands Trust, and recommend such improvements and changes to 
them as may be required to bring the policies and practices into conformity with 
best practices for local government by law enforcement.  
CARRIED 
 
By general consent, Trust Council continued with discussion and considered amendments to the draft 
budget as presented.   
 
TC-2023-010 
It was Moved by Trustee Morrison and Seconded by Trustee Evans, 
That Trust Council direct staff to specify that the Legislative Services, Meeting 
Administrator position be named as temporary for one year. 
14 in favour 
11 opposed 
CARRIED 
 
TC-2023-011 
It was Moved by Trustee Morrison and Seconded by Trustee Boland, 
That Trust Council direct staff to specify that the Administration, Administrative 
Coordinator position be named as temporary for one year. 
12 in favour 
13 opposed 
DEFEATED 
 
TC-2023-012 
It was Moved by Trustee Evans and Seconded by Trustee Bernardo, 
That Trust Council reduce the proposed Policy Statement Amendment Project 
budget from $50k to $30k in recognition of the fact that Executive Committee has 
proposed a project charter that has shifted public engagement to the 2024/25 fiscal 
year. 
CARRIED 
 
TC-2023-013 
It was Moved by Trustee Yates and Seconded by Trustee Mabberley, 
That Trust Council put back in to the budget for the 2023/24 year, $27,500 for the 
June Trust Council meeting. 
CARRIED 

 
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TC-2023-014 
It was Moved by Trustee Yates and Seconded by Trustee Mabberley, 
That the 2023/24 Trust Council meetings be held in-person at the following 
locations: June – Gabriola; September -1. The Penders or 2.Keats/Barnabas; 
December – Victoria; March (2024) - Salt Spring. 
CARRIED 
 
TC-2023-015 
It was Moved by Trustee Peterson and Seconded by Trustee Yates, 
THAT the Islands Trust Council include a special property tax requisition for the Salt 
Spring Island Local Trust Area in the amount of $43,500 in its 2023/24 annual 
budget, to fund additional operations of the Salt Spring Island Local Trust 
Committee (LTC) in accordance with the additional powers granted to it under 
Bylaw 154 related to preserving and protecting the quality and quantity of water 
resources within the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Area. 
 
TC-2023-016 
It was Moved by Trustee Middleton and Seconded by Trustee Mabberley, 
That the above motion (TC-2023-015) be modified from $43,500 to $22,000.  
 
4 in favour 
16 opposed 
DEFEATED 
 
Chair Luckham called the question on TC-2023-015 as presented. 
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It was Moved by Trustee Peterson and Seconded by Trustee Yates, 
THAT the Islands Trust Council include a special property tax requisition for the Salt 
Spring Island Local Trust Area in the amount of $43,500 in its 2023/24 annual 
budget, to fund additional operations of the Salt Spring Island Local Trust 
Committee (LTC) in accordance with the additional powers granted to it under 
Bylaw 154 related to preserving and protecting the quality and quantity of water 
resources within the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Area. 
 
14 in favour 
8 opposed 
CARRIED 
 
By general consent, the meeting adjourned at 5:36 p.m.  
 
Trustee Scott’s video, “The Silver Highway” regarding the herring season in the Salish Sea was 
shown. 
 
 
 
 
 

 
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Thursday, March 9, 2023 
 
Chair Luckham reconvened the meeting at 9:00 a.m. and acknowledged the meeting was being held on the 
Coast Salish territory Peoples of the Snuneymuxw First Nation. 
Trustees Allen and Scott sent regrets. There were 24 trustees present. 
 
It was noted there were 130 livestream views of the meeting on March 9, 2023. 
 
9. CLOSED MEETING  
 
At 9:02 a.m., the meeting was closed to the public. 
 
TC-2023-017 
It was Moved by Municipal Trustee Fast and Seconded by Trustee Yates, 
That the meeting be closed to the public subject to Sections 90(1)(c)(g) and (i) of the Community 
Charter in order to consider matters related to employee relations, litigation affecting the Islands 
Trust and receipt of advice that is subject to solicitor-client privilege and that staff attend the 
meeting. 
CARRIED 
 
At 11:00 a.m. the meeting was reopened to the public.  There was a 15-minute break.  The meeting 
reconvened at 11:15 a.m. 
 
10. RISE AND REPORT 
 
Chair Luckham reported that the minutes of the September Trust Council closed meeting were 
adopted as presented. 
 
By general consent, items under 5.2 were addressed next. 
 
5.2 Discussion / Decision Items 
 
5.2.1 Draft Revised Policy Statement Amendment Project Charter v6 - RFD 
 
DTAS Frater spoke to the request for decision. 
 
TC-2023-018 
It was Moved by Trustee Morrison and Seconded by Municipal Trustee Fast, 
That Trust Council approve Policy Statement Amendment Project Charter v6. 
 
CARRIED 
 
Discussion followed on timeline, communications, public engagement and holding 
special purpose meeting to further consider the draft Policy Statement. 
 
5.2.2 Reconciliation Learning Group – RFD 
 
Director of Trust Area Services (DTAS) Frater spoke to the request for decision (RFD).   

 
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TC-2023-019 
It was Moved by Trustee Elliott and Seconded by Trustee Morrison, 
That a reconciliation learning group be initiated comprised of trustees who indicate 
interest; and that a learning plan be developed and implemented through monthly, 
virtual meetings. 
CARRIED 
  
5.2.3 Recommended Islands Trust Council Representative and Alternate Attendee for DFO 
Shellfish Aquaculture Management Advisory Committee – RFD 
 
TC-2023-020 
It was Moved by Trustee Peterson and Seconded by Trustee Morrison, 
That Trust Council recommend to Fisheries and Oceans Canada (DFO) that Trustee 
Lironi be appointed as Trust Council’s representative to the DFO Shellfish 
Aquaculture Management Advisory Committee and that Trustee Graham be 
identified as the alternate attendee.  
CARRIED 
 
11. DISPOSITION OF DELEGATIONS 
 
Re:  Item 6.1.5 Riane da Silva re: How the Islands Trust and Bylaw Enforcement Violate the Human 
Right to Housing 
 
Discussion ensued regarding whether the delegate is referring to a higher law that Islands Trust 
needs to be aware of. 
 
TC-2023-021 
It was Moved by Trustee Graham and Seconded by Trustee Morrison, 
That Trust Council request Staff to seek a legal opinion regarding the Islands Trust's obligations to up 
hold collective and individual rights to housing. 
 
CARRIED 
 
Re: Item 6.1.3 David Dunnison re: Valid Invalid Information 
 
Trustees offered the following statements for discussion which were projected onscreen: 
 
 That the Executive Committee consult legal counsel with respect to the assertions made 
by David Dunnison to Trust Council on March 7, 2023, and also in the written materials 
he provided in support of his presentation, and obtain counsel’s opinion concerning 
Trust Council’s potential legal liability, if any, arising form any inaccurate scientific claims 
made on the Island Trust website. 
 
 That Trust Council request staff to review language on the website and in publications 
regarding the Coastal Douglas-fir  zone and amend as appropriate, with advice from 
provincial forest ecologists as needed. 
 

 
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 That Trust Council request the Executive Committee to arrange a presentation for 
trustees by provincial forest ecologists to provide background on forest classifications, 
forest health, and the significance of forests in the Islands Trust Area. 
 
 That Trust Council direct staff to continue their work with David Dunnison pending his 
agreement, and to expand the scope of work to, validating the range and extent of the 
CDF zone and “species at risk” data on IT website and promotional data.  Using (Del 
Meidinger, Will Mackenzie and Bob Green) the provincial experts David Dunnison cited 
in his Delegation Tuesday, March 7
th
 as the final authority on the CDF zone range and 
extend to be presented to Trust Council (TC) for review prior to two weeks before 
September Trust Council meeting. 
 
Comments regarding potential legal action against the Islands Trust ensued. 
 
At 12:53 p.m., the meeting was closed to the public. 
 
TC-2023-022 
It was Moved by Trustee Morrison and Seconded by Trustee Bernardo, 
That the Islands Trust Council close this meeting to the public subject to Section 90(1)(g) of the 
Community Charter in order to consider matters related to litigation or potential litigation affecting 
the municipality and that staff attend the meeting. 
CARRIED 
 
At 1:34 p.m. the meeting was reopened to the public. 
 
By general consent, item 13. Bylaws for Approval was addressed next. 
 
13. BYLAWS FOR APPROVAL 
 
Director of Administrative Services (DAS) Mobbs presented to Trust Council, the draft budget as 
revised.  The documents were circulated to trustees and added to the agenda package as 13.1.1 
Revised.  
 
13.1 Financial Plan Bylaw No. 191 – RFD (request for decision) 
 
TC-2023-023 
It was Moved by Trustee Bernardo and Seconded by Trustee Peterson, 
That Islands Trust Council Bylaw 191, cited as the “Financial Plan Bylaw 2023-2024”, be 
Read a First Time. 
CARRIED 
TC-2023-024 
It was Moved by Trustee Bernardo and Seconded by Trustee Gedye, 
That Islands Trust Council Bylaw 191, cited as the “Financial Plan Bylaw 2023-2024”, be 
Read a Second Time. 
CARRIED 
 
 
 
 
 

 
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TC-2023-025 
It was Moved by Trustee Bernardo and Seconded by Trustee Fast, 
That Islands Trust Council Bylaw 191, cited as the “Financial Plan Bylaw 2023-2024”, be 
Read a Third Time. 
CARRIED 
 
TC-2023-026 
It was Moved by Trustee Bernardo and Seconded by Trustee Campbell, 
That Islands Trust Council Bylaw 191, cited as the “Financial Plan Bylaw 2023-2024”, be 
forwarded to the Minister of Municipal Affairs for approval consideration. 
 
CARRIED 
13.2 Revenue Anticipation Borrowing Bylaw No. 192 – RFD 
 
DAS Mobbs spoke to the request for decision (RFD) as presented. 
 
TC-2023-027 
It was Moved by Trustee Middleton and Seconded by Municipal Trustee Fast, 
That Islands Trust Council Bylaw 192, cited as the “Revenue Anticipation Borrowing Bylaw 
2023-2024”, be Read a First Time. 
CARRIED 
TC-2023-028 
It was Moved by Trustee Morrison and Seconded by Municipal Trustee Fast, 
That Islands Trust Council Bylaw 192, cited as the “Revenue Anticipation Borrowing Bylaw 
2023-2024”, be Read a Second Time. 
CARRIED 
 
TC-2023-029 
It was Moved by Trustee Middleton and Seconded by Trustee Stamford, 
That Islands Trust Council Bylaw 192, cited as the “Revenue Anticipation Borrowing Bylaw 
2023-2024”, be Read a Third Time. 
CARRIED 
 
TC-2023-030 
It was Moved by Trustee Fast and Seconded by Municipal Trustee Fast, 
That Islands Trust Council Bylaw 192, cited as the “Revenue Anticipation Borrowing Bylaw 
2023-2024”, be forwarded to the Minister of Municipal Affairs for approval consideration. 
 
CARRIED 
By general consent, Trust Council continued with unfinished business under item 11.  
 
11. DISPOSITION OF DELEGATIONS 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
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Re: Item 6.1.2:  Raincoast Conservation Foundation re:  Adopt Goals in Montreal Pledge. 
 
TC-2023-031 
It was Moved by Trustee Morrison and Seconded by Trustee Yates, 
That the Trust Council direct the Regional Planning Committee and the Trust Programs Committee 
to consider how the Montreal Charter on Biodiversity impacts the work of the Islands Trust and 
share their thinking back with Trust Council in this calendar year.  
 
CARRIED 
 
Re: Item 6.1.3 David Dunnison re: Valid Invalid Information 
 
TC-2023-032 
It was Moved by Trustee Stamford and Seconded by Trustee Bernardo, 
That Trust Council request staff to review language on the website and other publications regarding 
the Coastal Douglas-fir zone and associated ecosystems and amend as appropriate, with advice from 
qualified provincial forest ecologists as needed. 
 
TC-2023-033 
It was Moved by Trustee Harris and Seconded by Trustee Evans, 
Amend the above motion TC-2023-032, after “qualified provincial forest ecologists” add “including 
Will MacKenzie provincial custodian of the Biogeoclimatic Ecosystem Classification (BEC) system.” 
and remove “as needed.” 
CARRIED 
 
TC-2023-032 as amended by TC-2023-033 
That Trust Council request staff to review language on the website and in publications regarding the 
Coastal Douglas-fir zone and associated ecosystems and amend as appropriate, with advice from 
qualified provincial forest ecologists, including Will MacKenzie provincial custodian of the 
Biogeoclimatic Ecosystem Classification (BEC) system. 
CARRIED 
 
TC-2023-034 
It was Moved by Trustee Stamford and Seconded by Trustee Boland, 
That Trust Council request the Executive Committee to arrange a presentation for trustees by 
qualified provincial forest ecologists to provide background on forest classifications, forest health, 
and the significance of forests in the Islands Trust Area as soon as conveniently possible. 
 
 
TC-2023-035 
It was Moved by Trustee Harris and Seconded by Trustee Morrison, 
Amend the above motion TC-2023-034, add “including Will MacKenzie,” after “qualified provincial 
forest ecologists...”. 
10 in favour 
14 opposed 
DEFEATED 
 
 
 
 

 
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Chair Luckham called the question on TC-2023-034 as presented. 
 
It was Moved by Trustee Stamford and Seconded by Trustee Boland, 
That Trust Council request the Executive Committee to arrange a presentation for trustees by 
qualified provincial forest ecologists to provide background on forest classifications, forest health, 
and the significance of forests in the Islands Trust Area as soon as conveniently possible. 
10 in favour 
14 opposed 
DEFEATED 
 
TC-2023-036 
It was Moved by Trustee Stamford and Seconded by Trustee Morrison, 
That Trust Council refer the educational opportunity around the Coastal Douglas-fir zone and forest 
discussions to Trust Programs Committee for further consideration as an educational opportunity. 
 
(See resolution TC-2023-034). 
CARRIED 
12. CORRESPONDENCE 
 
12.1 Harlene Holm response to Freshwater Sustainability Report letter received February 14, 
2023 
 
TC-2023-037 
It was Moved by Trustee Patrick and Seconded by Trustee Yates, 
That correspondence item 12.1 “Harlene Holm response to Freshwater Sustainability Report 
letter received February 14, 2023” be referred to the Regional Planning Committee. 
 
CARRIED 
 
12.2 Mielle Chandler letter to Trust Council dated February 14, 2023 
 
Director of Planning Services Cermak commented that regarding the Ombudsperson Review, 
see resolution TC-2023-009, that consideration of language as referenced in Mielle 
Chandler’s letter re: “replacing value-laden words ‘legal/illegal’ and ‘lawful/unlawful’ to 
describe residents’ land uses—especially our dwellings [with] terms ‘conforming’ and 
‘non-conforming’” will be considered with regards to Trustee Boland’s request regarding 
language review of Bylaw Compliance and Enforcement Policy. 
 
Received for information. 
 
12.3 R. Schuster re: Report “Carbon and Biodiversity Mapping and Assessment for the Islands 
Trust Area” from 2014 letter dated February 28, 2023 
 
Received for information. 
 
12.4 D. Rogers re: Correspondence to Trustees letter dated March 6, 2023 
 
Received for information. 
 
 

 
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12.5 McKechnie & Elkington re: NAV CAN Flight Path letter dated March 6 2023 
 
Received for information. 
 
12.6 E. Dishoeck re: Flight path changes proposed by NAV CAN letter dated March 6, 2023 
 
Received for information. 
 
14. NEW BUSINESS 
 
14.1 Tree Cutting Advocacy - Rescind September 2020 Request to the Province - Trustee RFD 
 
Trustee Harris spoke to his trustee request for decision (RFD) as presented.  He spoke to 
education of different techniques of sustainable forestry and the impacts to communities. 
 
TC-2023-038 
It was Moved by Trustee Harris and Seconded by Trustee Morrison, 
That Islands Trust Council request the Chair to promptly inform the Province that it no 
longer wishes to proceed with its request that the Province enhance the Trust's jurisdiction 
over tree cutting bylaws to make its jurisdiction equal to that of municipalities under section 
8 of the Community Charter, and also request staff to remove the task from Trust Council’s 
follow-up action list. 
 
TC-2023-039 
It was Moved by Trustee Elliott and Seconded by Trustee Mabberley, 
That the above motion TC-2023-038 be severed after “Community Charter” and two 
separate motions be presented for consideration by Trust Council. 
9 in favour 
11 opposed 
DEFEATED 
 
Chair Luckham called the question on TC-2023-038 as presented. 
17 in favour 
6 opposed 
CARRIED 
 
14.2 Suspend Proactive Bylaw Enforcement - Notice of Motion 
 
14.2.1 An Independent Review of Islands Trust Bylaw Enforcement Practices – RFD 
 
This item was put on hold pending information to be brought back from the action 
requested in motion TC-2023-009. 
  
15. TRUSTEE UPDATES 
 
15.1 First Nations Relations - None 
 
15.2 Freighter Anchorages/Oceans Protection Plan (OPP) Update 
 
15.2.1 Trustee Lironi - Oceans Protection Plan Update 

 
Island Trust Council Quarterly Meeting  Minutes 
March 7-9, 2023 ADOPTED Page 21 of 21 
Received for information. 
 
15.2.2 Trustee Campbell - Oceans Protection Plan Update 
 
Received for information. 
 
15.3 Salt Spring Island Watershed Protection Alliance (SSIWPA) - None 
 
15.4 Southern Gulf Islands Forum 
 
It was noted that electronic meetings have been held and with an in-person meeting 
scheduled in April. 
 
15.5 Átl’ḵa7tsem/Howe Sound Biosphere Region 
 
A forum is scheduled to be held in April. 
 
15.6 Baynes Sound/Lambert Channel Ecosystem Forum - None 
 
15.7 BC Ferries Advisory Committees - None 
 
16. PRIORITIES CHART 
 
Received for information. 
 
17. STRATEGIC PLAN AMENDMENTS - None 
 
18. PROPOSED JUNE TRUST COUNCIL PROGRAM 
 
The meeting was approved to be held in-person. 
 
19. NEXT MEETING 
 
The next Trust Council meeting is scheduled to be held in person June 27-29, 2023, at The Haven on 
Gabriola Island. 
 
20. ADJOURNMENT 
 
By general consent, at 2:55 p.m. the meeting was adjourned. 
 
 
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Peter Luckham, Chair 
 
Certified Correct 
 
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Lori Foster, Executive Coordinator/Recorder