Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, March 21, 2024

[0:00:05] Voice 12: Okay, we should be good to go.

[0:00:07] Voice 5: Thank you, Will.

[0:00:11] Voice 9: Good morning, everyone.

[0:00:13] Voice 9: Welcome to the Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee meeting here for March the 21st.

[0:00:20] Voice 9: I think this is the first day of spring.

[0:00:23] Voice 9: So that's good news.

[0:00:24] Voice 9: I saw some lovely wildflowers myself in the NIMO this morning.

[0:00:29] Voice 9: Anyway, my name is Peter Luckham.

[0:00:31] Voice 9: I'm elected on Thetis Island, and I'm the designated chair for the Gabriola Local Trust Committee.

[0:00:37] Voice 9: It's a pleasure for me to be here in Coast Salish Territory, and particularly that of the Sinema people.

[0:00:44] Voice 9: And it's a pleasure every day to wake up here and realize and be aware so fully of the history of this place.

[0:00:54] Voice 9: And the history, of course, has lots of joys and happiness in recent years.

[0:01:01] Voice 9: But, of course, the past is tainted with some not so joyous activities.

[0:01:05] Voice 9: And there's a lot of grief and sorrow associated with the past, with First Nations.

[0:01:13] Voice 9: And we are committed at the Allianz Trust to work towards reconciliation to resolve those issues.

[0:01:20] Voice 9: And so grateful to be here and work here.

[0:01:23] Voice 9: I'm going to provide regrets from Toby Elliott today.

[0:01:26] Voice 9: She is unable to join us.

[0:01:28] Voice 9: She's out doing an Indigenous food workshop out on the West Coast.

[0:01:33] Voice 9: and certainly interested to hear a report from her on that topic.

[0:01:38] Voice 9: But with me today, of course, is Susan Yates, locally elected.

[0:01:42] Voice 9: Good morning, Susan.

[0:01:43] Voice 12: Thank you.

[0:01:44] Voice 12: And I would like to do a very quick land acknowledgement.

[0:01:51] Voice 12: Having recently attended a three-day Trust Council meeting

[0:01:54] Voice 12: and a full-day Islands Trust Conservancy meeting,

[0:01:58] Voice 12: where the First Nations knowledge helped to guide our decisions,

[0:02:02] Voice 12: I am especially grateful that Islands Trust Council, Islands Trust Conservancy and this

[0:02:09] Voice 12: local trust committee strive to create opportunities for knowledge sharing, understanding and collaborating

[0:02:16] Voice 12: with First Nations.

[0:02:18] Voice 12: I am committed to the protection of this place I call home in ways that respect reconciliation

[0:02:25] Voice 12: and I am grateful to recognize past, present and future knowledge shared by First Nations

[0:02:31] Voice 12: nations across their territories in the Salish Sea.

[0:02:37] Voice 9: Excellent.

[0:02:38] Voice 9: Good morning, Vanessa.

[0:02:39] Voice 9: Good morning.

[0:02:40] Voice 9: Thank you.

[0:02:41] Voice 9: No, I'm glad that you're here and your timing is perfect.

[0:02:45] Voice 9: I see you're going by the water on the wall, I think.

[0:02:48] Voice 9: Well, yeah.

[0:02:49] Voice 9: It's the air exhaust.

[0:02:51] Voice 9: That's the air all the time.

[0:02:53] Voice 9: I think some of you are very serious, I think.

[0:02:57] Voice 9: Anyway, good morning.

[0:02:58] Voice 9: Do you have any opening remarks?

[0:03:00] Voice 9: Louise, we'll start.

[0:03:01] Voice 9: I do.

[0:03:01] Voice 9: Okay.

[0:03:02] Voice 9: Thank you.

[0:03:03] Voice 9: So, and then, of course, we're joined by a staff member, Stephen Bough.

[0:03:07] Voice 9: Thank you for all of your support and assistance this morning.

[0:03:10] Voice 9: And Lisa Millard, looking after our minutes.

[0:03:12] Voice 9: Thank you for your work.

[0:03:15] Voice 9: And later, we'll be joined online by some other staff.

[0:03:19] Voice 9: I think we've actually got more people here already.

[0:03:23] Voice 9: So, yeah, recognizing William Shoba.

[0:03:26] Voice 9: Thank you for listening in.

[0:03:27] Voice 9: William Shoba, he's our freshwater specialist.

[0:03:30] Voice 9: specialist and we also have the uh will collingham actually who's looking after our technology and

[0:03:36] Voice 9: providing an enormous amount of support to myself and the other trustees of local trust committee

[0:03:40] Voice 9: here as well as across the region i'm grateful to you for your work will so uh we have an agenda

[0:03:47] Voice 9: before us so there are any additions or deletions from the agenda all right then we will adopt the

[0:03:53] Voice 9: agenda by general consent as presented and the first item on the list is the local trustee

[0:03:59] Voice 9: reports and uh um trustee so to you well

[0:04:03] Voice 12: thank you chair luck i think i would like to um on behalf

[0:04:07] Voice 12: of trustee toby elliott who is at an indigenous indigenous food gathering workshop for two days

[0:04:15] Voice 12: and um port over the area i would like to do her report first thank you

[0:04:21] Voice 12: um and i'm very happy that

[0:04:24] Voice 12: And she is in a place where it was very dear to my heart in my working years is the community of the house.

[0:04:33] Voice 12: Anyway, she's developing, she's at a conference that is developing strategies for food security and sovereignty for all nations across Vancouver Island.

[0:04:44] Voice 12: And it is something that we both want to support.

[0:04:49] Voice 12: trustee Elliot notes that she continues to hold office hours as do I and her next office hour is

[0:04:56] Voice 12: March 26 9 to noon at the northern office on Long Road she's committed to meeting with people in

[0:05:04] Voice 12: places after work hours however she's discontinuing her office hours at the library as they don't see

[0:05:12] Voice 12: at that point. Our treasured Will Cottingham, who we just mentioned, and who's helping us with the

[0:05:21] Voice 12: meeting today, is retiring and we will greatly miss her presence and her unbelievably able

[0:05:28] Voice 12: administration at the Northern office. Toby and I both thank her greatly.

[0:05:34] Voice 5: Um,

[0:05:36] Voice 12: Trustee Elliott notes that we attended Trust Council, and we are very happy to say

[0:05:46] Voice 12: that both staff and trustees around the Council table are happy to return to Gabriela Island

[0:05:54] Voice 12: in September for Trust Council, so all the customers from all the islands will be here

[0:06:00] Voice 12: and the best news from chuck council is that we got our budget passed for the gabriel island

[0:06:09] Voice 12: official community plan review with the water balance study which was a fifty thousand dollar

[0:06:16] Voice 12: cost and that is so important for this ocp review i just have felt all along that we cannot go ahead

[0:06:23] Voice 12: without it and it's especially important because we work in collaboration with the regional district

[0:06:29] Voice 12: of Nanaimo. We've done an amazing one on fresh water, but it needs to be completed for us to

[0:06:36] Voice 12: to go ahead with our work. So Trustee Elliott notes that she's overjoyed about the budget item

[0:06:43] Voice 12: and so am I. So my report. Yes, on February 25th, I attended the Gabriela Arts Council

[0:06:54] Voice 12: 2050 vision session here in this room.

[0:06:58] Voice 12: I had to leave early for another meeting,

[0:07:01] Voice 12: but what I gleaned from that meeting

[0:07:04] Voice 12: was really interesting questions about

[0:07:07] Voice 12: where will the arts be in 2050?

[0:07:10] Voice 12: How important are they to our official community plan?

[0:07:14] Voice 12: They are a vital component, no question,

[0:07:16] Voice 12: for economic and cultural and spiritual wellbeing.

[0:07:21] Voice 12: They are important for children.

[0:07:22] Voice 12: I certainly know that. I work with children as often as I can, and they will help us to adapt to dramatic changes in our cultural and environmental place over the next 50 years.

[0:07:38] Voice 12: Having just read Matt Wyman's amazing book on democracy and the arts, he asserts that the arts are essential to democracy.

[0:07:50] Voice 12: democracy so that was that was a really good session for me to attend uh february 5th we had

[0:07:58] Voice 12: a special meeting with snenema first nation a special local trust committee meeting that was

[0:08:05] Voice 12: organized by our regional planning manager renee jamara and um people from the name of first nation

[0:08:12] Voice 12: and we were there to listen and to find out what they would like to tell us and it was a beautiful

[0:08:20] Voice 12: meeting i was so appreciative of everything they told us um if their representatives were elder

[0:08:28] Voice 12: geraldine manson satasia whom we've met before at advance on gabriola their council um executive

[0:08:35] Voice 12: executive advisor to to the chief is Carolyn Joseph and Hannah Paulson who is their Landry girls clerk

[0:08:44] Voice 12: so that was one um I should say the first of what I hope will be several meetings

[0:08:50] Voice 12: yeah

[0:08:51] Voice 5: we

[0:08:53] Voice 12: are and I'm so happy about that so uh let's see what is this early in March um well

[0:09:03] Voice 12: director craig and i both attended the regional district of nanaimo master advisory plan draft

[0:09:10] Voice 12: plans for parks and recreation and as always there was excellent attendance around the table

[0:09:18] Voice 12: lots of good discussion it was well organized and it's based on the what we heard report and

[0:09:25] Voice 12: the research report and we expect the draft master plan later this spring it focuses on parks and

[0:09:32] Voice 12: trails and recreation and i really appreciate how it's organized so that we have the opportunity

[0:09:39] Voice 12: to talk about all of these issues quite a lot of depth so i'm looking forward to that next meeting

[0:09:49] Voice 12: the budget was passed at our council meeting as i mentioned earlier and um perhaps i could just

[0:09:56] Voice 12: even tell the public here if you have not seen it yes yet we have a 5.9 increase to the existing

[0:10:02] Voice 12: local area tax base. And I think besides the Gabriola watermelon study being approved,

[0:10:11] Voice 12: my happiest accomplishment with that budget was that we will continue the stewardship education

[0:10:18] Voice 12: program. And those are the programs that give us the webinars, for example, on freshwater

[0:10:24] Voice 12: sustainability. And the next one coming up will be on wildfire. And I really enjoy those programs.

[0:10:31] Voice 12: rounds and i know the public does too because we had 100 people registered for one of the fresh

[0:10:36] Voice 12: water seminars oh my goodness what else um

[0:10:42] Voice 5: oh

[0:10:45] Voice 12: so trustee elliot and i are both um representatives

[0:10:50] Voice 12: on the honest trust conservancy board we have a lovely board to work with and great staff at

[0:10:59] Voice 12: Islands Trust Conservancy. We had a meeting on Tuesday and it was a great meeting. And I

[0:11:06] Voice 12: mentioned earlier, we had First Nations input because one of our board members is Ken Thomas

[0:11:13] Voice 12: from Connecticut Nation. And he has the most, just the most beautiful way of joining our meetings

[0:11:23] Voice 12: and slowing us down a little bit and making us really reflect on what we're doing.

[0:11:29] Voice 12: So, interestingly, we received a letter from the Minister of Municipal Affairs earlier this year, telling us for the first time ever that she did not approve our interim three-year plans.

[0:11:46] Voice 12: And she suggested to us that our mandate needs to evolve beyond colonial perspectives of conservation and involve more collaboration with First Nations.

[0:11:58] Voice 12: which we are very happy to agree with her on that and she suggests that rather than

[0:12:06] Voice 12: that we focus on developing a new five-year plan commencing in 2026 or sooner taking more time to

[0:12:16] Voice 12: adequately engage with First Nations that have expressed interest in deeper conversation about

[0:12:22] Voice 12: the philosophy of the Conservancy and what approach of the Conservancy is taking to preserve

[0:12:27] Voice 12: and protect the trust area and we of course intend to do that so one last little item from

[0:12:36] Voice 12: our islands trust conservancy meeting on tuesday is that i am delighted to announce

[0:12:42] Voice 12: that we have new signs for so many to pay an elder cedar nature reserve that hopefully

[0:12:50] Voice 12: hopefully will preclude any future major cutting of trees in this nature reserve and the new sign

[0:12:59] Voice 12: will look like this it will be one at every at all of the three main entrances i am hoping that

[0:13:10] Voice 12: this sign tells us what we need to know and that we will not be doing the kind of cutting of trees

[0:13:18] Voice 12: that happened exactly a year ago in that nature reserve

[0:13:22] Voice 12: that caused great distress to many of us.

[0:13:26] Voice 12: And that's the end of my report.

[0:13:28] Voice 12: This has been a month of meetings, just nonstop meetings.

[0:13:33] Voice 12: But they've all been good.

[0:13:34] Voice 12: Thank you.

[0:13:35] Voice 9: Okay, thank you.

[0:13:37] Voice 9: So thank you for presenting Toby's report,

[0:13:41] Voice 9: provided in absentia, I suppose you could say.

[0:13:44] Voice 9: and um uh i'll just make only very few remarks um it has been a busy month in preparation for

[0:13:53] Voice 9: trust council um predominantly and that now sits behind us um and uh indeed uh you and toby both

[0:14:03] Voice 9: advocating on behalf of your community was successful in getting those um elements in

[0:14:08] Voice 9: the budget because certainly it was a it's hard fought the right word and that

[0:14:13] Voice 9: I'm not totally

[0:14:13] Voice 4: sure of that,

[0:14:14] Voice 9: but certainly there was a lot of discussion and contemplation on how we can be conscious of reducing the burden on the taxpayers in the

[0:14:23] Voice 9: Alms Trust area.

[0:14:24] Voice 9: And so I'm not going to elaborate too much further on that, except just note that the three-day session held in Nanaimo, Elder Lawley, opened our meeting for us, which was really a good way to start us off in our

[0:14:45] Voice 9: deliberations on budget.

[0:14:47] Voice 9: But we also had two really great workshops, which I thought really brought council together on our goals and priorities, a full afternoon on talking about our goals and priorities.

[0:14:57] Voice 9: We actually managed through an amazing sort of mediated process of sorts, came to a consensus, not decisions were not made, but some consensus on where we should be focusing our parties and we'll get some reporting back to us on that, that we will ultimately make some decisions on in terms of where we're going.

[0:15:21] Voice 9: so it was good work and then on the second day we had a session to prepare us for communication

[0:15:26] Voice 9: and social media and other venues um surrounding our launching of the policy statement which is

[0:15:32] Voice 9: planned to happen next month and trustees have asked that that public consultation phase happened

[0:15:38] Voice 9: at the trustee level and um and so this was to provide some tools and skills uh to trustees to

[0:15:44] Voice 9: facilitate that in a good way so we're looking forward to that and then uh thursday was a was a

[0:15:51] Voice 9: a tougher day in actually nailing down the details of the budget and that's always challenging when

[0:15:57] Voice 9: people's interests and emotions are at the table but we got through it successfully a little over

[0:16:04] Voice 9: time which it's just a couple hours you know i like to end on time if i can but not always

[0:16:10] Voice 9: successful in that anyway that's it for me and my report um pleasure to be able to work

[0:16:15] Voice 9: um for the trust council and uh for the communities and i'll turn to electoral area director craig um

[0:16:22] Voice 9: for your report thank you for submitting an electronic report to us

[0:16:25] Voice 9: thank you

[0:16:28] Voice 5: and again always

[0:16:29] Voice 12: thank you for inviting me and delayed to appear

[0:16:32] Voice 12: traditional territory and um i've i've basically most of my report were updates on things i've

[0:16:40] Voice 12: already talked about before but the one thing i wanted to highlight was the communication

[0:16:47] Voice 12: I saw that listed on

[0:16:49] Voice 12: your agenda now. So as I indicated, it repeated conversations. It was a roadside brushing instead of mowing, which means it's much more expensive and they only mow or brush one area every few years.

[0:17:07] Voice 12: but they do indicate that they have posted information about this and I'm going to follow up

[0:17:14] Voice 12: just because I'm getting different information from Monty and Main Road about where people can

[0:17:19] Voice 12: track that and because a lot of what I was hearing is that if people had known in advance that this

[0:17:25] Voice 12: was happening they might have been able to take steps to avoid such a drastic effect in their area

[0:17:32] Voice 12: so I'll be following up that and with you and Trustee Elliott just to see make sure we're kind

[0:17:39] Voice 12: of all on the same page and asking questions that we all want to have answered we have

[0:17:44] Voice 12: asked for a

[0:17:45] Voice 12: meeting with multi between ourselves and the regional district I hope we can still have that

[0:17:50] Voice 12: meeting so we can actually talk to them okay uh and yeah the rest of it is is mostly just updates

[0:17:57] Voice 12: So if I'm not going to be answering any questions, I think I would just like to thank Director Craig for her really strong support of our work and how well Randall's master arts plan.

[0:18:19] Voice 12: I can't take any credit in that meeting.

[0:18:21] Voice 12: Yeah, but it's just, I think you can. And it's great to be there with you.

[0:18:26] Voice 12: and i feel like we're really looking at everything in that we're trying to and then really get even

[0:18:36] Voice 12: more community feedback in another phase where we can ensure that we're

[0:18:39] Voice 5: trying

[0:18:40] Voice 12: to capture the

[0:18:41] Voice 12: priorities of the team

[0:18:42] Voice 5: so thank

[0:18:44] Voice 5: you for that thank you

[0:18:45] Voice 12: and just one comment on the the what

[0:18:47] Voice 12: they call brushing i would call it butchering myself however um i know two people who did

[0:18:54] Voice 12: stand out right on the verge when those when that mower pressure came up it was a giant flaw

[0:19:02] Voice 12: and they were not able to save the small bushes that they had planted to stop runoff

[0:19:09] Voice 12: and to stop dust and the mower pressure could ignore them well that's one of the things

[0:19:18] Voice 12: the main representative said that it might be possible for community members to maintain an

[0:19:24] Voice 12: area such that it wouldn't need to be brushed, but you

[0:19:27] Voice 5: need

[0:19:28] Voice 12: to be more specific about what exactly

[0:19:31] Voice 12: that would mean. But we should have a few years before they're back. Oh good.

[0:19:39] Voice 9: So it's interesting, maybe just speak to the same topic actually, because it came up on my island,

[0:19:45] Voice 9: just I raised it actually the other day, and we haven't had any brushing yet, but I suspect it's

[0:19:51] Voice 9: out there somewhere um but um and i don't know if it exists on um gabriola or not but we have

[0:19:59] Voice 9: a transportation kind of a committee that works through the ratepayers association that is kind

[0:20:03] Voice 9: of a liaison to the um modi area manager and um so some of those conversations happen in that

[0:20:11] Voice 9: conduit that allow um property owners to do their own remediation and in fact i had a comment i

[0:20:18] Voice 9: I prompted yesterday, a property owner, that what would be really good is to not cut down any trees, but to create a window by limbing the trees, limbing up rather than cutting down, in order to provide safe visual pathway for safe traveling down the roads.

[0:20:37] Voice 9: And so, yeah, I'd like to think that that's going to be happening.

[0:20:44] Voice 12: well on that note we have had two delegations um from stephen earl on behalf of a number of

[0:20:51] Voice 12: people who want to have a transportation committee of sorts yeah

[0:20:55] Voice 8: we wouldn't host it

[0:20:56] Voice 8: and

[0:20:56] Voice 12: we they've already decided they don't want to under the auspices of the rdn or under the

[0:21:02] Voice 12: evidence trust they want to have a separate transportation committee they are doing that

[0:21:06] Voice 12: as we speak they're getting themselves organized so perhaps we could have those

[0:21:11] Voice 12: And if we do arrange this meeting with Modi, I hope we can,

[0:21:15] Voice 12: because it is on our follow-up action list.

[0:21:19] Voice 12: And perhaps one of them could attend with us.

[0:21:24] Voice 9: Anyway, just thought I'd share that.

[0:21:26] Voice 12: Yeah, thank you.

[0:21:28] Voice 9: So First Nations reports, here is a holding place.

[0:21:32] Voice 9: And hopefully as we engage more with the name of First Nations,

[0:21:35] Voice 9: we may get some regular reporting here.

[0:21:37] Voice 9: That would be great.

[0:21:38] Voice 9: and so this brings us now into the public comment period this is uh your opportunity

[0:21:43] Voice 9: to tell us what's going on i'll get you in a minute are you the delegate uh yes

[0:21:49] Voice 3: but no i

[0:21:49] Voice 3: just wanted to make the comments uh prior to that if possible if someone could read the uh

[0:21:54] Voice 3: verify the uh um uh the short term rental report that was added in in the agenda

[0:22:03] Voice 3: that that's your report right

[0:22:05] Voice 3: no not our reports it's something

[0:22:07] Voice 9: yeah

[0:22:08] Voice 3: and

[0:22:10] Voice 9: so that will be conveyed

[0:22:11] Voice 9: in the meeting as we proceed is that okay yeah thank you so uh public comment then is uh i'll

[0:22:19] Voice 9: just say it's separate from delegation so we're gonna um ask anybody that wishes to address the

[0:22:24] Voice 9: local trust committee today on um items that are in our agenda or items that are in stream that we

[0:22:30] Voice 9: would be reviewing in uh in the future as well as other issues um that are within the jurisdiction

[0:22:37] Voice 9: of the island's trust and um i'll just note that this is your opportunity to address the local

[0:22:42] Voice 9: trust committee today we don't normally engage through the rest of the agenda on individual

[0:22:46] Voice 9: topics so if there's something you wish to speak to us about today that would be your opportunity

[0:22:51] Voice 9: so and the delegation will be provided a separate slot of 10 minutes to uh do that

[0:22:55] Voice 9: is the delegate here oh for the short hair rental yeah yeah i'm here okay great thank you so you'll

[0:23:03] Voice 9: get your slot um after the public contact thank you so does anybody wish to address the local

[0:23:08] Voice 9: trust committee today well

[0:23:09] Voice 7: one of the items on the agenda is the um application for a temporary

[0:23:15] Voice 7: use permit for 866 sure

[0:23:16] Voice 9: just for formality your name sir i'm

[0:23:19] Voice 7: david mclaughlin but my question is

[0:23:22] Voice 7: is this the time when i now comments on that or or further down when it comes up are

[0:23:27] Voice 9: you the applicant

[0:23:28] Voice 7: no no

[0:23:29] Voice 9: so then this is the time the only person that gets addressed the lcc during the time of

[0:23:33] Voice 9: the application would be out so this is your time to speak to it

[0:23:37] Voice 5: okay and

[0:23:38] Voice 9: two minutes is kind of

[0:23:39] Voice 9: what we do and i ask you to be respectful of everybody from the room and the people at home

[0:23:42] Voice 9: and choose your words carefully.

[0:23:50] Voice 7: Having finally seen the staff report,

[0:23:52] Voice 7: I didn't realize that it was available online yesterday afternoon,

[0:23:56] Voice 7: so I spent as much time as I could this morning on it.

[0:23:58] Voice 7: I guess the big issues for my family,

[0:24:02] Voice 7: who are co-owners of property at 915 Berry Point Road,

[0:24:08] Voice 7: it is actually just to the west of 868 Chichester,

[0:24:14] Voice 7: one of them is the roadway if you take a look at the map that was provided

[0:24:20] Voice 7: it erroneously shows a connection all the way out to norwood but it actually stopped right at 868

[0:24:26] Voice 7: and then it punches through and that's how we get our only access to 915 very point road

[0:24:32] Voice 7: i think in the staff report they've addressed the issue of parking for a temporary use permit

[0:24:38] Voice 7: permit. We would just point out that that's a very narrow roadway. It is not maintained to any

[0:24:45] Voice 7: provincial standards or anything else. I believe local owners patch it up as best they can.

[0:24:51] Voice 7: It's quite narrow, and there have been occasions when it has been blocked, not necessarily by

[0:24:57] Voice 7: visitors to 868, but other properties along there. There's very little other parking other than the

[0:25:06] Voice 7: two spaces that would be permitted at 868.

[0:25:09] Voice 7: So I just want you to be aware of that when

[0:25:11] Voice 7: you make your deliberations.

[0:25:15] Voice 7: The other thing is clarification for a CBR, Commercial Vacation

[0:25:23] Voice 7: Rental.

[0:25:26] Voice 7: Would it allow for a commercial rental,

[0:25:30] Voice 7: renting to a commercial operator,

[0:25:32] Voice 7: or would it strictly be by vacationers?

[0:25:39] Voice 9: Well, this is a temporary use permit for a non-permitted use, and the opportunity for temporary use permit varies from industrial to recreational to tourism value, and they're all judged on their own merit.

[0:25:56] Voice 9: I don't know if that helps or not, but the answer is probably yes.

[0:26:00] Voice 7: Okay. And finally, oh, yes. Reading through the material this morning, apparently there was a TUP in place for H68 Chichester, granted in April of 2021, if I read the report correctly. Is that correct?

[0:26:22] Voice 3: Not to my knowledge, no.

[0:26:24] Voice 3: No?

[0:26:25] Voice 3: Not a temporary use permit, no.

[0:26:27] Voice 3: Not from the Mortler, you know, this is our first time.

[0:26:30] Voice 3: It

[0:26:30] Voice 5: may have been operating.

[0:26:32] Voice 7: Yeah.

[0:26:33] Voice 7: Okay.

[0:26:34] Voice 7: That's right.

[0:26:35] Voice 7: Something happened in April of 2021, though?

[0:26:37] Voice 7: We bought

[0:26:38] Voice 7: the house.

[0:26:40] Voice 9: So actually, I'm going to ask you to address the local trust committee.

[0:26:42] Voice 9: Sorry.

[0:26:43] Voice 9: Do you want

[0:26:43] Voice 7: to have a

[0:26:43] Voice 9: conversation on your own?

[0:26:44] Voice 9: Yeah.

[0:26:45] Voice 9: I'm sorry.

[0:26:46] Voice 7: But yes.

[0:26:46] Voice 7: So just to be aware of that.

[0:26:48] Voice 7: But you've already answered the point.

[0:26:51] Voice 7: So there's my two minutes.

[0:26:53] Voice 8: Okay.

[0:26:53] Voice 8: So thank you very much.

[0:26:55] Voice 7: Anybody else wish

[0:26:55] Voice 8: to address the local trust committee today?

[0:27:01] Voice 9: Anybody online?

[0:27:02] Voice 9: line so if there's no further uh people who wish to address the local trust committee i'll go to

[0:27:07] Voice 9: the delegation and the delegation is rob greasedale and erica

[0:27:12] Voice 9: nasrchuk yeah my wife erica

[0:27:15] Voice 9: she's out of other countries she'll just be me okay but uh okay so over to you we've got your

[0:27:23] Voice 9: slide deck in our package so i don't know if i'll cover all the points

[0:27:26] Voice 3: in there i just more wanted

[0:27:27] Voice 3: that in so it's more yeah that sort of thing so yeah i say i appreciate the opportunity to speak

[0:27:35] Voice 3: on this um so full disclosure we have a valid tup on island for a short-term rental airbnb yeah um

[0:27:44] Voice 3: uh we're after renewals we're going into that we do even in our primary residence so i think we'll

[0:27:51] Voice 3: be able to hopefully make it through. But I just wanted to speak to the LTC's choice to include

[0:28:00] Voice 3: themselves in the provincial ban on short-term rentals, because I think it's a bit of a blunt

[0:28:05] Voice 3: tool being used. I think AirBnBs, and I know it's an interesting issue on the island. We've been

[0:28:11] Voice 3: here since 2019. But I think we offer a lot of benefit that I think isn't being considered an

[0:28:18] Voice 3: an outright ban on short-term rentals sorry that's not a good way to put that um i think there's a

[0:28:25] Voice 3: bit of misinformation i think there's a bit of a myth going around that banning short-term rentals

[0:28:29] Voice 3: is going to turn those properties immediately into long-term housing stock um speaking specifically

[0:28:35] Voice 3: about our property we we're there more than 50 percent of the year we use it i own the business

[0:28:41] Voice 3: on the island as well as in vancouver so i go back and forth both my family uses it recreationally

[0:28:46] Voice 3: so we see it as having a short-term rental as a benefit to the community as renting out those

[0:28:52] Voice 3: in-between times when we're not using it um so the rental benefit of the community because we

[0:28:59] Voice 3: we did a survey the first year we ran our short-term rental we found that on average

[0:29:04] Voice 3: whenever it's being rented there's about 500 being spent by our guests locally in the community

[0:29:09] Voice 3: going into restaurants going into arts and shops going into local stores and that sort of thing

[0:29:14] Voice 3: that people lost it if a lot of these short-term rentals shut down um so there's the revenue there

[0:29:19] Voice 3: um i i think the other big thing is that we also employ a cleaner who was absolutely heartbroken

[0:29:26] Voice 3: at the thought of losing her short-term rental because that's how she makes her money she she

[0:29:32] Voice 3: also works at one of the local hotels but um she makes sixteen dollars an hour as a cleaner at the

[0:29:37] Voice 3: local hotel we pay her almost forty dollars an hour and uh the money she makes literally covers

[0:29:42] Voice 3: to rent. So she would be hard-broken at the loss of a short-term rental. And then in addition

[0:29:50] Voice 3: to tourism, we don't just rent out to tourist people. We rent out twice a year. We rent out

[0:29:54] Voice 3: to the male researchers that come to study the local population. So they have sort of a

[0:30:00] Voice 3: a standing rental with us. We have lots of local families that rented out. We had two families had

[0:30:07] Voice 3: guest weddings last year where people had like wedding guests that came because a lot of the

[0:30:12] Voice 3: things we hear when people book our tour for rental is pages is full and the surface is full

[0:30:16] Voice 3: of no rooms. So we have hydro workers that come over here that there's no space for them in pages

[0:30:22] Voice 3: and they come they stay for multi-day whether there's a lot of inches on the islands you get

[0:30:26] Voice 3: have a lot in the winter and then we've also rented out to local home builders who come and

[0:30:30] Voice 3: bring trains in to work sort of economy building houses and that sort of thing but it's not just a

[0:30:36] Voice 3: tourism thing and I just I think I understand that there are hotels on the island they're just not

[0:30:44] Voice 3: sufficient for the type of tourism that's on the island I think there has to be sort of a balance

[0:30:49] Voice 3: the fact that some short-term houses and after again so um and then i think the biggest point

[0:30:55] Voice 3: is we've been through the tup process on the island and i think the the local trust committee

[0:31:01] Voice 3: um like i think the local trust committee has an elegant way to be the gatekeeper to make sure that

[0:31:11] Voice 3: that short-term wrinkles that are being set up on the islands are done properly and they're not just

[0:31:17] Voice 3: people here trying to make money just buying a house and renting out as a short-term rental

[0:31:21] Voice 3: all the time. I think it has to be in place to put in very specific rules to make sure that these

[0:31:28] Voice 3: things are a benefit to the local community and not taking away from the long-term house itself.

[0:31:33] Voice 3: I'm the person to say I don't think somebody should be able to buy a house remotely and just

[0:31:37] Voice 3: rent it out as an Airbnb and never use it. I don't think that's the purpose of Airbnb. I don't think

[0:31:42] Voice 3: That's a perfect short-term rental, but I don't think that would be not the thing that needs to be stopped.

[0:31:47] Voice 3: The other thing is there is only five short-term rentals used in the TPP process currently on the island.

[0:31:56] Voice 3: So I will admit that there's probably far more than that on the island operating.

[0:32:00] Voice 3: I don't think that they should be operating if they're not doing it properly through the problem channels.

[0:32:05] Voice 7: So

[0:32:05] Voice 3: again, I think this rule has come in now,

[0:32:07] Voice 3: and it really only affects five different businesses' short-term rentals on the island.

[0:32:12] Voice 3: because the ones that aren't following the rules up until now we get a TEP are also the ones that

[0:32:16] Voice 3: aren't really going to care they're banned I think they're just going to keep operating anyway so

[0:32:21] Voice 3: I would agree I think those should be brought into the process and be forced to get TEPs and

[0:32:29] Voice 3: that sort of thing so that the local land trust has the ability to control and monitor how these

[0:32:36] Voice 3: things get dealt out what kind of businesses they are what kind of uh you know people are running

[0:32:42] Voice 3: them up and they're using them what kind of revenue they're doing it um you know we feel

[0:32:46] Voice 3: like there should be a you know a maximum amount of days per year deep and rented out as a short

[0:32:51] Voice 3: term rental so that it is geared towards the people that use the property primarily for

[0:32:56] Voice 3: themselves like we do and just want to fill in the void and help the economy and help buy our

[0:33:03] Voice 3: I think we're one example of if this if this ban did affect our property it wouldn't lead

[0:33:10] Voice 3: to any long term but along the way so anyway I just wanted to speak on behalf I know it's

[0:33:16] Voice 3: a contentious issue I appreciate your time um but uh okay

[0:33:21] Voice 9: well very good well thank you

[0:33:24] Voice 9: very much for coming and preparing to advise us and it's definitely helpful and uh we'll

[0:33:30] Voice 9: be considering that work as an advantage thank you um i'm going to now move to the rest of the

[0:33:37] Voice 9: agenda here now we have a number of uh minutes um before us a local trust community special

[0:33:42] Voice 9: meeting minutes of april 28th i'll just ask if there's any changes sorry

[0:33:48] Voice 12: sorry chair luck i

[0:33:49] Voice 12: i just wanted to respond to uh mr greasedale and i do appreciate your input here um and this is an

[0:33:58] Voice 12: an issue I've been studying intently for the last couple of years. I've written articles

[0:34:03] Voice 12: on homelessness and the lack of available long-term rental. I am under no illusion

[0:34:12] Voice 12: that curtailing short-term vacation rentals is going to give us long-term rentals. I understand

[0:34:21] Voice 12: all the reasons why it wouldn't necessarily do that. That's not my worry. My concern is

[0:34:28] Voice 12: is that there is a trend for people to purchase homes on Irviola

[0:34:38] Voice 12: and with the idea that they will be able to pay their mortgages off

[0:34:45] Voice 12: sooner than later by using them as short-term vacation rentals.

[0:34:53] Voice 12: And the island can only support so many short-term vacation rentals,

[0:34:57] Voice 12: especially in areas where there's a real water problem.

[0:35:01] Voice 12: problem. Parking is minor compared to water problems. I'm also concerned that the prevalence

[0:35:13] Voice 12: of short-term vacation rentals in certain areas cause a false rise in real estate prices,

[0:35:22] Voice 12: so that people are paying far more for homes in an area where short-term vacation rentals

[0:35:31] Voice 12: you know allow people to pay their mortgages off sooner and it also means that and we know this

[0:35:41] Voice 12: from provincial studies that the cost of long-term rental is 40 percent higher because of the direct

[0:35:50] Voice 12: effect of short-term vacation and although i as a community member i care deeply about people

[0:35:59] Voice 12: being able to make a living on this island. But I also care deeply about

[0:36:05] Voice 12: eco-justice and moving towards a feudal system where cleaners and gardeners

[0:36:12] Voice 12: can't find a place to live but they have a job cleaning short-term vacation rent.

[0:36:21] Voice 12: And I know this is true. I have spoken to people who have those jobs and of

[0:36:27] Voice 12: course they value those jobs but they can't find a place to rent and i think about that because i

[0:36:34] Voice 12: also have a job as a trustee for the islands trust and people expect me to look at the long-term

[0:36:43] Voice 12: values in this community so that we do not become an exclusive community of wealthy people who can

[0:36:54] Voice 12: rent their homes out short term for vacationers while the people who actually do the work the

[0:37:03] Voice 12: servants work who live here who perhaps were born and raised here don't have a place to live

[0:37:10] Voice 12: so i just wanted i wanted to put that out there right now

[0:37:14] Voice 12: because i really do appreciate your delegation and i understand it yeah

[0:37:20] Voice 9: but i think that was why

[0:37:21] Voice 9: I don't want to get a debate going

[0:37:25] Voice 9: you could have a conversation opposite yeah

[0:37:29] Voice 12: and and it's

[0:37:30] Voice 12: mostly a way of me telling you that I read it carefully I understand it I've also read and

[0:37:36] Voice 12: heard from commercial operators on Gabriela Island who feel somewhat differently about

[0:37:44] Voice 12: the prevalence of short-term vacation rentals not necessarily individual ones in certain

[0:37:50] Voice 12: the neighborhoods because i agree that there is a need sometimes for those those to exist

[0:37:57] Voice 12: but i think this is just the best place for me to put those general thoughts

[0:38:02] Voice 12: out while you all are here and and thank you again for the delegation so

[0:38:07] Voice 3: thank you for your

[0:38:09] Voice 3: thoughts on that and we'll consider those as well

[0:38:16] Voice 9: Okay, so let's go back to the minutes and 6.1 local trust committee special meeting

[0:38:20] Voice 9: minutes that will be April 28th, 2023 for adoption.

[0:38:30] Voice 5: No changes?

[0:38:33] Voice 9: No, that was a great meeting.

[0:38:36] Voice 9: Yeah, so I'm going to then, by general consent, adopt the minutes as presented.

[0:38:41] Voice 9: And local trust committee minutes of February 22nd, 2024, also here for adoption. Are there any changes to that?

[0:38:50] Voice 5: No,

[0:38:51] Voice 12: and I wish to express my thanks once again to Lisa Millard, our minute taker, who is able to turn our conversations into something quite legible and succinct. Thank you.

[0:39:06] Voice 9: So then I'm going to take the minutes of February 22nd to be adopted by General Consent as presented.

[0:39:13] Voice 9: We have a resolution without meeting log and there's no entries this month.

[0:39:19] Voice 9: And the Housing Advisory Planning Commission minutes are here for our information to receive

[0:39:24] Voice 9: February 22nd.

[0:39:25] Voice 9: Are there members of the Housing Committee in the room today?

[0:39:29] Voice 9: thank you very much for your work and um what you're doing is very helpful to us and helping us

[0:39:35] Voice 9: figure out what we're going to do there i

[0:39:37] Voice 12: echo that sentiment thank you so much for your work

[0:39:40] Voice 12: it's really helpful it's well organized good ideas so

[0:39:45] Voice 9: i'm going to continue on then um with

[0:39:48] Voice 9: that um business arriving to the minutes of follow-up action list um i'm assuming that's

[0:39:53] Voice 9: up to date there's no changes to that actually just this time so i'll just ask trustee h if

[0:39:58] Voice 9: she has any questions about any items on that list uh

[0:40:01] Voice 12: no

[0:40:02] Voice 9: i don't thank you so we'll receive

[0:40:05] Voice 9: that and thank the staff for their work broadly um on the work that we've directed you to undertake

[0:40:12] Voice 9: so now we're coming to applications application and today is uh gabriel uh temporary use permit

[0:40:19] Voice 9: at 2023.5 godfrey and georgia georgia thank you um and so we have a staff report here so you're

[0:40:31] Voice 9: the applicant let's do it

[0:40:32] Voice 9: perfect okay so i'm gonna have uh staff uh do a summary of the report

[0:40:37] Voice 9: that's in the agenda for our for us and then you'll have an opportunity to speak to the uh

[0:40:43] Voice 9: report uh whether you um concur with the decision uh or the recommendation that's in the report or

[0:40:49] Voice 9: not or have any other advice you'd like to be there with us and then we'll have a conversation

[0:40:53] Voice 9: here when we have some questions for you and other staff and uh and then we'll make a decision

[0:40:58] Voice 9: accordingly all right so stephen

[0:41:01] Voice 3: over to you um so this is an application for a temporary use permit

[0:41:05] Voice 3: to allow a commercial vacation rental within a single family dwelling at agency chichester road

[0:41:12] Voice 3: and although the provincial residential requirement has made it impractical for

[0:41:18] Voice 3: some tup applications to proceed uh in this case the applicants are proposing that um that they

[0:41:24] Voice 3: maintain this home as their principal residence and stay somewhere else while they have guests

[0:41:28] Voice 3: renting the home um and so in theory that's uh that is possible that um principal residence

[0:41:34] Voice 3: requirement of course will be enforced by the province but um but that doesn't appear

[0:41:39] Voice 3: applicable um so the use permitted by the tup is also distinct from the bed and breakfast

[0:41:43] Voice 3: this use that's permitted generally in the presidential don't want to give role as a home

[0:41:48] Voice 3: occupation uh in that it will allow for up to three bedrooms to be rented instead of just two

[0:41:54] Voice 3: and in a commercial vacation rental guests would guests would not be prohibited from using the

[0:42:00] Voice 3: kitchen um yeah i'm going to submit reports and information to support their application

[0:42:07] Voice 3: staff are requesting direction you'll see on two of the tupi guidelines regarding water

[0:42:12] Voice 3: water and screening. For the first, the flow test provided by the applicant meet the provincial

[0:42:18] Voice 3: guidelines for flow test and staff recommend that the LTC request additional information

[0:42:25] Voice 3: to ensure approved water for the proposed use and screening. The LTC may require mitigating

[0:42:32] Voice 3: measures. This is one of the TUP guidelines states that the LTC may require mitigating

[0:42:37] Voice 3: measures to address neighbour concerns including screenings and the property does have a deck which

[0:42:44] Voice 3: overlooks some of the neighbouring properties or at least and so the LTC could include a requirement

[0:42:51] Voice 3: for landscape screening as a condition of retirement if they desire to do so

[0:42:57] Voice 3: and the applicant has submitted a referral form just to him with First Nation at this point

[0:43:03] Voice 3: of response is not the industry in the nation um and so if the ltc does not wish to request

[0:43:08] Voice 3: additional information regarding proof of water uh staff we recommend that the ltc defer a decision

[0:43:13] Voice 3: until the april meeting to allow some time first and to um to respond to that report

[0:43:21] Voice 3: that's

[0:43:22] Voice 9: um i think that wraps it up for me yeah thank you um

[0:43:26] Voice 9: do you have any remarks or comments

[0:43:28] Voice 9: much on this report or yeah we got it that's

[0:43:31] Voice 3: that's what's up uh alex53868 terry chester

[0:43:35] Voice 3: um and thank you everyone for your time uh first of all i'd just like to echo um mr uh

[0:43:42] Voice 3: um print fails um report well done on that and trustee susan yates uh i appreciate all your

[0:43:48] Voice 3: comments as well it does make a lot of sense um sort of like select a blog and you have to pick

[0:43:54] Voice 3: the ones that work and ones that don't work and it will support an area etc so anyhow i think

[0:44:01] Voice 3: they're all very valid points um but something that certainly can be worked through

[0:44:05] Voice 3: and happy happy me um some comments uh on on uh steven's

[0:44:18] Voice 3: work there. The water flow test recommendation, although it wasn't outlined in the application

[0:44:27] Voice 3: form, there was a bunch of sort of, I guess, gray areas in the process of application that

[0:44:35] Voice 3: we would like to address at a later point just to help future applicants get through

[0:44:41] Voice 3: this process might be easier. Water flow test was done at a 10 second or sorry 35 second interval.

[0:44:50] Voice 3: With water conservation in an area such as this we felt that it was it was enough enough time for the

[0:44:57] Voice 3: water test to happen. The challenge is if you run it for an hour you're wasting all that water

[0:45:03] Voice 3: of course you have to put that water somewhere so we assumed it was really a good enough flow test.

[0:45:10] Voice 3: we have a large system that works well so it's on a triple system from the well and it trickles

[0:45:18] Voice 3: into into our system uh our well which is located on uh gary's property next door to us

[0:45:24] Voice 3: supplies three uh three households the uh gallons per minute were our substantial amount to support

[0:45:33] Voice 3: for our use.

[0:45:37] Voice 3: First Nations, I have to comment on that.

[0:45:40] Voice 3: Yeah, we put in a, oh yeah, speak for that.

[0:45:44] Voice 10: I'm Janine Jorgia, and I can speak on that.

[0:45:47] Voice 10: I dropped off with a rush on the application,

[0:45:52] Voice 10: and I just received a response back today

[0:45:54] Voice 10: saying it will be sent back this week.

[0:45:58] Voice 10: So a conclusion will be sent back this week.

[0:46:00] Voice 10: and I also want to note that I had an Indigenous friend

[0:46:04] Voice 10: come to the property and she wrote me a land acknowledgement

[0:46:08] Voice 10: that's going to be hung on the door

[0:46:11] Voice 10: and this weekend I'm actually flying to Cranbrook

[0:46:15] Voice 10: to go study with an Indigenous woman

[0:46:17] Voice 10: on shamanistic practices and their relationship to nature

[0:46:21] Voice 10: so this is something that I first need to take into consideration

[0:46:24] Voice 10: and take quite seriously about how we are affecting the land

[0:46:28] Voice 10: and as a child at the island, protecting the community and neighborhood kind of made sure

[0:46:34] Voice 10: it is really important to us. So I just wanted to have a chance to share that note.

[0:46:42] Voice 3: And some of the history, just the ancient history on the island for First Nations,

[0:46:46] Voice 3: it's phenomenal history. Though in colonialism it was not so good,

[0:46:52] Voice 13: but

[0:46:53] Voice 3: growing up on the island,

[0:46:54] Voice 3: we just we know all of all the uh things we have of the first nation um very interesting and all

[0:47:02] Voice 3: that stuff yeah so okay so um on some of the letters that were sent in um some people are

[0:47:19] Voice 3: here to uh um i guess present their letters but uh we just want to bring up some points um uh

[0:47:28] Voice 3: permission to read the things property next door um there has there was uh an issue once or twice

[0:47:33] Voice 3: we're marking in front of this driveway i just want to clear this up in this letter um and once

[0:47:38] Voice 3: it was brought up to us we uh uh adopted that and that was actually our us and her father um so and

[0:47:50] Voice 3: we are very aware of that so we try to take care of that as best as possible um there's a comment

[0:47:56] Voice 3: in Davidson's letter here

[0:48:01] Voice 3: in regard to the contract, the sales contract.

[0:48:04] Voice 3: We don't have that in our contract at all.

[0:48:07] Voice 3: In fact, I've got it here as well.

[0:48:09] Voice 3: So we're happy to work with them on that

[0:48:13] Voice 3: in regard to the rights of water and uses of water

[0:48:17] Voice 3: and that stuff for short term reasons.

[0:48:27] Voice 3: Mr. McCollum, or sorry, McLaughlin, sorry, sorry, McLaughlin, there's, and you're with

[0:48:38] Voice 3: three families, or three families in the house?

[0:48:41] Voice 3: My siblings, three siblings.

[0:48:42] Voice 3: Three siblings, yeah.

[0:48:43] Voice 3: Yep, we're all co-owners of the property.

[0:48:45] Voice 3: So, yeah, we're very cautious of, and we appreciate your driving right at the, at sort of the

[0:48:51] Voice 3: side of our property as well uh and we do park along the fence line because it's possible

[0:48:57] Voice 3: when we're there we understand that the fence is the property line um but there are also trees

[0:49:04] Voice 3: that we park within so theoretically those degrees are all the wrong way but it is a

[0:49:10] Voice 3: uh maintained and um uh yeah it's an unmaintained road so we get that or i know good roads so we

[0:49:19] Voice 3: understand some of the other challenges there uh vehicle traffic um i mean to be honest our house is

[0:49:26] Voice 3: it's five bedrooms plus plus again it's a large large house large family home um i live there

[0:49:32] Voice 3: fifty percent of the time i have two children we've included so i commute back and forth to needs

[0:49:36] Voice 3: there uh most of the time i'm there if she's out there i'm there so i do commute back and forth uh

[0:49:42] Voice 3: we have a few cars of our own on the driveway i also just want to make a point that we all

[0:49:47] Voice 3: that actually cars in it it's a very deep driveway and double driveway in so so i made that

[0:49:52] Voice 3: clarification yeah i

[0:50:00] Voice 10: just want to speak on some of the water stuff i've been living there full

[0:50:04] Voice 10: time for the last two years and um i personally have a full house all summer all summer long

[0:50:13] Voice 10: i probably honestly about 10 people i have a lot of social friends that come over a lot of people

[0:50:19] Voice 10: from vancouver that come visit me i have not a normal size bathtub i have a really large bathtub

[0:50:25] Voice 10: and my meditation i do every morning and at night is with a full bath i also have a garden that i

[0:50:30] Voice 10: water in the morning in the evenings and i have a hot tub and with all 10 people the last two

[0:50:35] Voice 10: summers and in the drought last summer nobody in the neighborhood ran out of water so i just wanted

[0:50:39] Voice 10: to share that that actually the tup will probably supply less people to the property than i

[0:50:45] Voice 10: I personally have there and to second that the house is three levels and currently I have a

[0:50:53] Voice 10: friend living with us full-time that he's been living here since Peter Garden she is a support

[0:50:59] Voice 10: nurse on the island for the elderly she was she lost her home she moved in with me and she is

[0:51:06] Voice 10: there full-time but she cannot pay enough rent for us to be able to make the house work but if

[0:51:13] Voice 10: with the tup she can stay downstairs on the third double she won't have to vacate

[0:51:18] Voice 10: and we'll be able to manage the property so somebody local would be there so it is otherwise

[0:51:27] Voice 10: she like without this you know we might not be able to stay so therefore she would lose her

[0:51:33] Voice 10: home as well so that's something that we just wanted to share um

[0:51:37] Voice 3: there's also some concern

[0:51:39] Voice 3: about traffic on the road from from other um people who submitted letters that runs i mean i've

[0:51:46] Voice 3: never and i could say never well actually once i came into gary at one point but uh there's there's

[0:51:53] Voice 3: no traffic on that at all it's just it's a back lane is what it is uh there is a uh group of

[0:51:59] Voice 3: trailers that are there that have some some traffic mostly they cut to the surf um but uh

[0:52:05] Voice 3: Yeah, and someone commented that, you know, if there's temporary use permit at the end of the road, we should put in pull-offs.

[0:52:13] Voice 3: Really, there's no traffic there, so there's no point in cutting vegetation down to that kind of thing.

[0:52:22] Voice 3: There's another point of footpath or foot traffic there, pedestrian traffic there.

[0:52:29] Voice 3: So, we're at the very end. There is pedestrian traffic which cuts through Camp Miriam, which theoretically at that point they're trespassing because there is no allowed access to Camp Miriam.

[0:52:41] Voice 3: There is another trail system that goes just behind the surf that cuts up into the wooden log there and then by the reservoirs on top, which is private property, it's owned by the surf.

[0:52:54] Voice 3: um but they've granted permission for people to walk up there which is nice to them so

[0:53:00] Voice 3: yeah if that way that was made it doesn't affect thoughts per se um also uh another point is

[0:53:20] Voice 3: someone brought up um a concern that the fire department had at one point um because of the

[0:53:27] Voice 3: maintenance of that road that it may take a longer period of time to gain access to an emergency

[0:53:33] Voice 3: situation um which uh a few bottles are not going to hold that up and there won't be any traffic

[0:53:40] Voice 3: if they have a siren on cars to pull over now we do have um a signature for that which i'll

[0:53:47] Voice 3: present to the secretary um

[0:53:53] Voice 10: i do just want to share my experience of being back on the island

[0:53:58] Voice 10: for the last five years um that i have like uh this guy

[0:54:10] Voice 10: stated it's not just vacationers that come through um that i have done the medium with

[0:54:18] Voice 10: the short for the medium term i've had a lot of people come and stay with me while they're

[0:54:23] Voice 10: looking for long-term housing when they've lost their home so that is um something that is

[0:54:29] Voice 10: necessary something that i i can't provide but again the space that i have for them doesn't have

[0:54:35] Voice 10: a kitchen so and the house doesn't have the ability for that to be done without some sort of

[0:54:42] Voice 10: amounts of renovation that's not in the cards and

[0:54:48] Voice 3: another point so i've got a uh a letter from

[0:54:51] Voice 3: today uh harker who's the owner of the surf lodge which is a hotel um and theoretically you would

[0:54:56] Voice 3: think that uh this uh this application is uh contrary to what she'd want it would also support

[0:55:04] Voice 3: her business uh her cleaning staff and to echo uh um delegates uh comments again the amount of

[0:55:12] Voice 3: um revenue that's generated just from cleaning services from food from travel on the island the

[0:55:19] Voice 3: arts people love buying arts it's a whole point of this island it's a very earthy island so people

[0:55:23] Voice 3: come to do the galleries gallery tours all that sort of stuff i mean i grew up on galleries uh

[0:55:28] Voice 3: i think from a family with you know uh that fits involved in that so i'm very proud of that um

[0:55:37] Voice 3: so she's you know she's 100 behind that i mean there's a lot of benefit from it of course

[0:55:43] Voice 3: but ultimately uh um you know that that just heightens the uh the point that there's not

[0:55:52] Planner Chadwick (probable): enough hotels on this island

[0:55:53] Voice 3: uh in fact i think there should be another hotel woods

[0:55:57] Voice 3: or a few more temporary permits allowed just to simulate the economy or because

[0:56:02] Voice 3: because it's obviously a pretty depressed period

[0:56:04] Voice 3: as of late, all the COVID.

[0:56:08] Voice 10: Yeah, for me personally,

[0:56:10] Voice 10: I don't know if you had a chance to read my letter.

[0:56:13] Voice 10: Read

[0:56:13] Voice 3: the letter to your mom.

[0:56:15] Voice 10: So I think you all understand.

[0:56:19] Voice 10: Thank you.

[0:56:21] Voice 3: So just in reference to earlier comments,

[0:56:27] Voice 3: so a big friend of ours,

[0:56:29] Voice 3: we were actually meeting with Felix.

[0:56:31] Voice 3: He runs an excavation company on the island.

[0:56:34] Voice 3: We asked him to put a report together

[0:56:36] Voice 3: to see what it would cost to actually grade that road

[0:56:39] Voice 3: and put some effort into it privately

[0:56:42] Voice 3: because it's not gonna be done by the municipality.

[0:56:45] Voice 3: And that would, so he would, you know,

[0:56:48] Voice 3: if this was granted, he would offer us

[0:56:50] Voice 3: a significant discount across the board.

[0:56:52] Voice 3: And if other neighbors all the way down the property

[0:56:56] Voice 3: are willing to contribute,

[0:56:58] Voice 3: we can bring that cost right down um you put in a quarter of seven thousand dollars uh to grade it

[0:57:04] Voice 3: which is in my opinion quite fair um and if that's demised or divided up amongst all the neighbors

[0:57:11] Voice 3: uh we can uh reduce that cost substantially okay

[0:57:20] Voice 3: okay

[0:57:22] Voice 4: so

[0:57:25] Voice 3: thank you um i'm sorry i'm sorry just one more thing i just uh just to comment here

[0:57:31] Voice 3: here. So in regard to there was two things. One, there was our

[0:57:38] Voice 3: map that we submitted. One of the comments was the map was

[0:57:41] Voice 3: reversed and backwards and weird. That is actually the fact

[0:57:44] Voice 3: that was sent to us by the City Hall in the 909. We couldn't

[0:57:50] Voice 3: change it. I tried every which way to do it, but we couldn't do

[0:57:53] Voice 3: it. It was reversed and weird. It's just how it was flipped to

[0:57:56] Voice 3: us um and also um recommendation of any screening for uh privacy neighbors would absolutely be

[0:58:04] Voice 3: willing to show me too i

[0:58:07] Voice 10: guess i would like to just close with the idea for the fact that

[0:58:12] Voice 10: i really tried to be proactive this is something that i have done as a career in other locations

[0:58:20] Voice 10: and that I actively have asked, talked to the CERF

[0:58:25] Voice 10: if there's extra parking they're interested

[0:58:28] Voice 10: or have agreed if I ever need parking

[0:58:31] Voice 10: that we can have people down there.

[0:58:34] Voice 10: I've looked into what it would cost to fix the road.

[0:58:36] Voice 10: I've looked into, yeah, I just want to put that energy

[0:58:41] Voice 10: into that if there is a problem

[0:58:43] Voice 10: or is something that arrives with the neighbors,

[0:58:46] Voice 10: I'm happy to address it and to be proactive to make sure that we've got a win-win for

[0:58:51] Voice 10: everyone that is in the neighborhood.

[0:58:54] Voice 3: And actually, just one more thing.

[0:58:57] Voice 3: In terms of the worry of noise complaints and that sort of thing, to be an Airbnb person,

[0:59:06] Voice 3: like I've Airbnb'd in Los Angeles, wherever, you also have a profile.

[0:59:11] Voice 3: You don't want to have bad comments on your profile because it reduces your stars and

[0:59:16] Voice 3: that sort of stuff.

[0:59:16] Voice 3: there are um you know there are occasions where people will just come in and um and be louder

[0:59:23] Voice 3: however um there is that going forward as well like people are out to to cause a ruckus uh if

[0:59:30] Voice 3: there are rules and guidelines uh typically they're followed um but there's a complaint

[0:59:40] Voice 3: thank you very much thank

[0:59:42] Voice 9: you um before i go to trustee eh if she has any questions i just want to

[0:59:46] Voice 9: In respect to the recommendation, the recommendation is to ask you to have a proper hydrology report done and prepare to assume that you're content to.

[1:00:00] Voice 3: would we want uh what is the recommended time for that just with water conservation

[1:00:05] Voice 3: i think a prevention timeline is an

[1:00:08] Voice 3: hour which is 60 minutes of water flow well actually

[1:00:11] Voice 9: professional will be able to advise you on that you just need to contract them to do it and you

[1:00:14] Voice 9: need to do it according to the prescribed standards and yes it's not necessarily

[1:00:19] Voice 9: environmentally appropriate but we have to be sure that um the water quantity quality

[1:00:26] Voice 9: quality um is not being um compromised for the associated law

[1:00:31] Voice 3: now is there um is there um

[1:00:35] Voice 3: if we have systems in place so if we had those systems built as well does that help if we know

[1:00:42] Voice 9: hired water right i don't believe so but actually we've got a freshwater specialist on the line

[1:00:47] Voice 9: here he's got a member and he can probably provide us some advice on the requirements

[1:00:51] Voice 9: requirements. But I believe the test that you've done really doesn't tell us anything. And

[1:00:58] Voice 9: in fact,

[1:00:59] Voice 9: what you've told us tells us more about the backgrounds. But hopefully that's sustainable

[1:01:04] Voice 9: and that's what we need to know. So William Shulbaugh, thank you for joining us. And I see

[1:01:09] Voice 9: your hand up there. Do you have some advice with respect to the recommendation that's in

[1:01:13] Voice 9: our package today?

[1:01:15] Voice 2: Yeah, thank you, Chair. Nice to see you again and hello to the local trust

[1:01:19] Voice 2: committee um i did work with the island planner on crafting this recommendation and the recommendation

[1:01:29] Voice 2: is actually quite simple to the local trust committee proof of water should not be a subjective

[1:01:35] Voice 2: process so the information that you received an attachment for and the information you received

[1:01:42] Voice 2: from the applicant today can be just received for information in your adjudication of this

[1:01:47] Voice 2: discretionary process however if the local trust committee does require a proof of water for any

[1:01:56] Voice 2: application it needs to be done by a professional engineer geoscientist with competency in

[1:02:02] Voice 2: hydrogeology when it's concerned with groundwater and since the guidelines around temporary use

[1:02:09] Voice 2: permit are different from say a subdivision application where or rezoning application

[1:02:15] Voice 2: where there may be a more robust pumping test that's needed that's usually in the

[1:02:19] Voice 2: realm from 12 to 72 hours and and that methodology is designed by the engineer geoscientist we

[1:02:31] Voice 2: have kind of softened the language where there is no prescription for how a professional engineer

[1:02:40] Voice 2: or geoscientist would prove water for this particular application so it is up to their

[1:02:49] Voice 2: professional discretion on on how they approach that with the local trust committee and at the

[1:02:57] Voice 2: time of receiving that the local trust committee can review that and staff will review it as well

[1:03:01] Voice 2: and and um can go from there okay

[1:03:05] Voice 9: thank you very much welcome

[1:03:07] Voice 3: did i just ask a question

[1:03:09] Voice 3: So is it my understanding that it's up to this trust board to make the recommendation?

[1:03:17] Voice 9: No, you would select an engineer or a scientist accordingly

[1:03:24] Voice 9: and have them conduct the task according to their professional standards.

[1:03:29] Voice 9: And then they would just submit that to us.

[1:03:31] Voice 3: What we've submitted is not accurate enough?

[1:03:34] Voice 13: No.

[1:03:35] Voice 13: Okay.

[1:03:39] Voice 2: And I'll just add to that.

[1:03:43] Voice 2: So most engineers, geoscientists with competency in hydrogeology who do work in this region understand that they can perform work under direct supervision, meaning that they can subcontract any well testing to a registered pump installer or registered driller to do the work on their behalf under their methodology.

[1:04:09] Voice 2: technology um again staff are not recommending specifically that a technical assessment needs

[1:04:16] Voice 2: to be done so if an engineer geoscientist uh does a test desktop study and they

[1:04:24] Voice 2: are presuming that that might be proof of water then you know that's the arrangement between the

[1:04:32] Voice 2: applicant and and that professional and then that would get submitted to the local trust committee

[1:04:38] Voice 2: committee and to staff and and we will review it and go from there so

[1:04:47] Voice 9: I just want to be clear on

[1:04:49] Voice 9: this William that the particular well is shared well I'm assuming there's a water board that's

[1:04:56] Voice 9: responsible for the management of that water supply and so our consideration needs to be

[1:05:05] Voice 9: with respect to the multiple users on that water source yes

[1:05:10] Voice 2: and I would assume that the

[1:05:12] Voice 2: the professional engineer geoscientists would be aware of that and reference that within

[1:05:18] Voice 2: their report. And I'm interested in the consideration if there's multiple users on the well, if

[1:05:28] Voice 2: this water source is a licensable water source or not. And another consideration that I wanted

[1:05:41] Voice 2: wanted to mention as part of a temporary use permit for the purpose of the short-term vacation

[1:05:45] Voice 2: rental. It was, I guess, a gray area whether or not this type of use needed to have a groundwater

[1:05:56] Voice 2: license. And we were provided information from the province just this year that short-term

[1:06:04] Voice 2: vacation rentals in the Islands Trust area do not need a water license. So the technical assessment

[1:06:11] Voice 2: Sean SeLegue, WA State Assoc. of Health and Human Services, the adjustment requirements for adjudicating water license don't apply here so that that's just like an if that was the case, then it almost be straightforward that that would be the regulatory pathway to prove water for for this type of use.

[1:06:41] Voice 9: was my other concern. I'm glad that we found clarity in that, but it wasn't clear last time.

[1:06:47] Voice 12: We have asked for a water license that's on previous TUPs. So that is really helpful to

[1:06:53] Voice 12: know that. Thank you, William.

[1:06:54] Voice 2: Yeah, you're welcome. I believe that those other requests

[1:06:58] Voice 2: and applications for water license for short-term vacation rentals just have been returned with a

[1:07:07] Voice 2: a decision that a water license was not needed for those applications so

[1:07:12] Voice 9: thank you so we'll move on

[1:07:13] Voice 9: with our process here so sir do you have another question yeah sorry just for clarification just

[1:07:17] Voice 3: so i know where to go to get this information where do i go to get this information if you

[1:07:22] Voice 9: contact staff they can provide you i'm just going to get some

[1:07:25] Voice 3: water yeah okay well we can

[1:07:29] Voice 3: at least direct you to a general profession perfect thank you okay

[1:07:34] Voice 9: and i'm pleased to hear

[1:07:36] Voice 9: you say that you would consider the landscaping privacy standards appropriate and we may and i'll

[1:07:45] Voice 9: just maybe if you don't mind choosing just um that if we advance this recommendation

[1:07:50] Voice 9: these this will come back to us the permit will come back to us and if we want to include the

[1:07:55] Voice 9: privacy screening and landscaping in that the language of the temporary department that is

[1:07:59] Voice 9: the time that we would do that

[1:08:00] Voice 3: yeah and and one more comment and that was just from our one

[1:08:04] Voice 3: neighbor uh uh vickery on this board but if uh the davidson's would like uh some some stuff we

[1:08:10] Voice 3: could help sorry

[1:08:11] Voice 7: who are the davidson's me yeah

[1:08:13] Voice 3: oh you i'm sorry

[1:08:14] Voice 7: sorry yeah i mean

[1:08:16] Voice 9: that's um we're

[1:08:17] Voice 9: willing to work yeah so let's come back to the table here and i'll just i have some other class

[1:08:22] Voice 9: another couple questions but i'm going to turn to trustee yates to ask her questions of staff

[1:08:27] Voice 9: for the app yeah

[1:08:28] Voice 12: thank you very much for this very comprehensive report planner bell and thank you

[1:08:33] Voice 12: william shelva for attendings it's very helpful um i do know that this application came to us

[1:08:40] Voice 12: as a result of bylaw enforcement an operation that was not legal oh no

[1:08:46] Voice 10: that's not true take

[1:08:47] Voice 12: that into consideration um but i'm very glad that you have applied um i my main concern is

[1:08:55] Voice 12: the water can

[1:08:57] Voice 3: we just make one comment on that in particular are we allowed to do that or

[1:09:04] Voice 3: So we did, we did operate as an Airbnb, or sorry,

[1:09:08] Planner Chadwick (probable): as a bed

[1:09:09] Voice 3: and breakfast, we have a bed

[1:09:10] Voice 3: and breakfast with a license and the whole nine yards.

[1:09:14] Voice 3: However, in speaking with Stephen on the clarification, we advertised it on Airbnb, that's where you

[1:09:22] Voice 5: advertise it.

[1:09:22] Voice 5: No, but it's listed as a bed and breakfast.

[1:09:24] Voice 3: And it's listed as a bed and breakfast.

[1:09:26] Voice 3: So that was, that was one of the comments that came back, we

[1:09:28] Voice 3: operated correctly, it's

[1:09:30] Voice 3: to us we were on a platform that sure so it came back it

[1:09:34] Voice 9: was a marketing sure uh i think probably

[1:09:37] Voice 9: it came about though because by law enforcement flagged it and they probably contacted you

[1:09:41] Voice 9: and the recommendation was it applied so there wasn't any violence

[1:09:46] Voice 9: so what is the story that we have uh stephen on that yeah

[1:09:51] Voice 3: so there was a file on enforcement

[1:09:54] Voice 3: file which is for this property uh for sort of her medication until then it would have been

[1:09:58] Voice 3: investigated and i don't know what the exact uh result and perhaps that was what they had

[1:10:04] Voice 3: done with that so i i'll

[1:10:06] Voice 10: speak because um you know

[1:10:10] Voice 9: it's not a really big point actually it's

[1:10:12] Voice 10: not a good point you guys should do something wrong i always have intentions of trying to

[1:10:19] Voice 10: get a temporary use permit but i knew that i was allowed to run a bed and breakfast so i did that

[1:10:23] Voice 10: until this whole thing came about yeah notably

[1:10:26] Voice 12: bed and breakfasts allow for two yes and whereas

[1:10:33] Voice 12: short-term vacation rentals from love so anyway that aside um i very much appreciate your

[1:10:41] Voice 12: everything you supply to us here and of course your history on the island um i'm very concerned

[1:10:48] Voice 12: concerned about the water because there are three households who depend on that well and although

[1:10:54] Voice 12: you have cisterns which I'm really happy to know those systems are not rainwater catchment cisterns

[1:11:00] Voice 12: they're fed by the well so there's a big difference there maybe that's something that you can consider

[1:11:08] Voice 12: um I'm concerned about neighbors who are worried about parking I'm concerned about neighbors who

[1:11:15] Voice 12: are worried about noise and you know invasion of their privacy it's a very small neighborhood

[1:11:24] Voice 12: on our maps as much information as we have about water groundwater on gabriel island

[1:11:33] Voice 12: it's not it does not bode well for future water supply at this point however there are ways of

[1:11:42] Voice 12: mitigating that as you're well aware

[1:11:44] Voice 5: so

[1:11:46] Voice 12: um in order for me to approve of this temporary use

[1:11:52] Voice 12: permit and i'm glad it is temporary because in three years time it may prove that this is not

[1:12:01] Voice 12: a viable operation for this neighborhood and this community i would definitely ask for screening

[1:12:08] Voice 12: And I would never approve this without a scientific hydrogeology report on the water supply.

[1:12:21] Voice 12: The one that's in this package is totally inadequate for your current needs or for the needs that you describe to us.

[1:12:32] Voice 12: I also want to, I want to see the referral back from Sineima First Nations, which I understand is coming. That's great.

[1:12:45] Voice 12: So I am prepared to move that the Gabriel Island Local Trust Committee request the applicant provide a proof of water report from a professional engineer or geoscientist with competency in hydrogeology

[1:13:02] Voice 12: in consideration of the temporary use permit guidelines

[1:13:06] Voice 12: from the Gabriel Island Official Community Plan

[1:13:10] Voice 12: and provide evidence that you will,

[1:13:18] Voice 12: I'm not quite sure what the wording is,

[1:13:21] Voice 12: you will provide privacy screening for all of your neighbors.

[1:13:27] Voice 9: So before I second that, I think we can include that in the,

[1:13:31] Voice 9: if I'm not mistaken, we can include that last part

[1:13:34] Voice 9: part in the actual and it should be included in the temporary use permit so specify specific

[1:13:39] Voice 9: for that and so certainly you should be aware that we will specify I think I think we will

[1:13:44] Voice 9: do that but that decision will come after we've received the uh high quality look is that correct

[1:13:49] Voice 9: yeah so

[1:13:51] Voice 3: there's there is a one of the TDP guidelines specifically just know what's the

[1:13:55] Voice 3: LTC you could um consider the privacy concern and that could be a main condition of the permit

[1:14:03] Voice 3: a good screening to be provided yeah

[1:14:05] Voice 12: i think in this case it's essential i i know that area quite

[1:14:10] Voice 12: well um

[1:14:12] Voice 3: now can can screening uh come is it like a structure or could it be heavy shrubs or like

[1:14:19] Voice 3: that sort of thing or would it just be agreed upon with the neighbors oh with the guidelines

[1:14:25] Voice 12: it wouldn't hurt to talk to your neighbors um yeah i'm not an expert on screening but i know

[1:14:31] Voice 12: how important it is yeah

[1:14:33] Voice 5: i think there's something you'd like to know through

[1:14:34] Voice 3: the chair there's

[1:14:37] Voice 3: there is guidelines or there is regulations in the land use file on regarding screening

[1:14:41] Voice 3: okay so i can i can point you to those um

[1:14:47] Voice 2: okay chair chair may i speak to the motion as well please

[1:14:54] Voice 9: um do you have some further advice it isn't necessary that you would speak to the motion

[1:14:59] Voice 9: Oh,

[1:14:59] Voice 2: yeah, I guess I'm not speaking to the motion, but I guess just providing this just

[1:15:05] Voice 2: The

[1:15:05] Voice 8: motion hasn't been seconded yet, so

[1:15:07] Voice 8: I

[1:15:07] Voice 2: thought you did.

[1:15:08] Voice 2: I'm sorry.

[1:15:09] Voice 8: No, still fair game.

[1:15:11] Voice 2: Oh, okay.

[1:15:12] Voice 2: I see.

[1:15:12] Voice 2: I just wanted to make the point that the way that the motion is written, of course, either

[1:15:19] Voice 2: it can be passed or defeated by the LTC and by doing so it it's the LTC's

[1:15:27] Voice 2: consideration to undertake the proof of water requirement if the local trust

[1:15:36] Voice 2: committee decided to not pass the motion then proof of water just simply wouldn't

[1:15:43] Voice 2: be a factor in the temporary use permit so wouldn't be vis-a-vis accepting what

[1:15:48] Voice 2: the applicant is provided as proof of water because staff and of course the i heard from

[1:15:54] Voice 2: the trustee saying that it just is not adequate is not it would not be proof of water it just the

[1:16:00] Voice 2: local trust committee would just decide to not require proof of water i just wanted to make that

[1:16:07] Voice 2: clear thanks

[1:16:08] Voice 9: yeah and so of course we could approve or not the temporary use permit regardless

[1:16:13] Voice 9: us so no no fair enough um so uh i think we've clarified that so um do you want to end your

[1:16:24] Voice 9: motion at the uh without that additional piece and include that in the i'm satisfied to include

[1:16:30] Voice 9: that when we review the if and when we review the permit for approval yes

[1:16:35] Voice 12: that might be a better way

[1:16:36] Voice 12: because

[1:16:37] Voice 9: for me it makes it yeah yeah because

[1:16:40] Voice 9: what we're after now is a hydrology report

[1:16:42] Voice 9: um that is going to inform us uh whether or not we're inclined to approve the

[1:16:47] Voice 9: issuance of the permit yeah i think that should be reasonable okay so then um can you just mix

[1:16:53] Voice 9: that addition there so then um the motion is as presented in the report and i will second

[1:17:01] Voice 9: that motion and is there any further discussion no okay so then i'll call for the vote on the

[1:17:06] Voice 9: on the motion all those in favor so that carries unanimously and so um yeah that i think covers

[1:17:16] Voice 9: that off and so um this uh temporary sperm will come back for us after you submit the

[1:17:21] Voice 9: report and we'll have further consideration i realized that i did have another question actually

[1:17:27] Voice 9: because i didn't necessarily note it in the report around the road because that certainly

[1:17:33] Voice 9: is an interesting thing um and so is this a strata a lot of multiple laws that are all

[1:17:39] Voice 9: connected and that is not a public roadway is

[1:17:42] Voice 3: it a right way unopened unopened road it's classified

[1:17:47] Voice 9: so what what do we call it within the planning okay

[1:17:51] Voice 3: it's a um it's a road right away and i

[1:17:55] Voice 3: believe it's just an unconstructed road there so the road right away is there and

[1:18:00] Voice 3: and so it's not assumed by the province it's it's um i

[1:18:06] Voice 5: think it is

[1:18:07] Voice 3: yeah it isn't

[1:18:09] Voice 3: believe it's a moody right of way it's just that there's not that physical road constructed on it

[1:18:13] Voice 3: i don't

[1:18:17] Voice 10: know why yeah

[1:18:18] Voice 9: well yeah it just begs the question if you're

[1:18:21] Voice 9: talking about doing maintenance on that if it's not

[1:18:24] Voice 9: your road no then

[1:18:26] Voice 3: it's it's un it's classified

[1:18:27] Voice 3: is unopened and there's a definition in provinces and townships and uh yeah it's been yeah great

[1:18:36] Voice 3: i'm not familiar with that phrase it's

[1:18:38] Voice 9: not heard of that one before i i couldn't afford to ask me

[1:18:41] Voice 9: too okay well

[1:18:42] Voice 9: maybe when the report comes back to us you could just clarify that because we want to

[1:18:46] Voice 9: be certain that um we're not uh condoning you to undertake activities of which modi might be

[1:18:53] Voice 9: concerned about that doesn't mean their standards or something um and that indeed the adjacent

[1:18:57] Voice 9: properties are also satisfied that their access is not being impeded so

[1:19:01] Voice 9: it would be good to have

[1:19:03] Voice 9: something there it

[1:19:04] Voice 10: would be nice if somebody would take care of it it would be nice if it was

[1:19:08] Voice 10: all of

[1:19:12] Voice 9: you would appreciate that

[1:19:13] Voice 10: that

[1:19:14] Voice 9: said you have to be careful what you ask for because

[1:19:16] Voice 9: of sometimes they come in and they turn in from a 10-foot lane to a 15-foot swat yeah and so all of

[1:19:24] Voice 9: that needs to be taken into consideration but i think it would just because we had a representation

[1:19:29] Voice 9: through correspondence about the road access and parking it would be good to understand that

[1:19:33] Voice 9: do you need a motion to that effect or do you understand

[1:19:37] Voice 9: that would

[1:19:40] Voice 12: be super helpful thank you okay well

[1:19:42] Voice 9: i don't i think that that concludes that

[1:19:44] Voice 9: that item today unless there's any further action you wish to take

[1:19:47] Voice 12: on

[1:19:48] Voice 9: this permit no okay so thank

[1:19:50] Voice 9: you very much for coming today and your presentation and filling it in and the details

[1:19:53] Voice 9: of your the package you can prepare and we look forward to seeing you again thank you so much

[1:19:58] Voice 9: thank you neighbors thank you all right I'm going to continue on here now with the local trust

[1:20:05] Voice 9: committee projects um if we're all right we're actually on time that's pretty good

[1:20:14] Voice 9: so a major project uh is devil island comprehensive oh thank you for joining us

[1:20:20] Voice 9: and i mean that i mean that kindly

[1:20:25] Voice 5: official

[1:20:26] Voice 9: community plan land use review housing advisory

[1:20:31] Voice 9: planning commission housing policy recommendations report presentation and i see planet chatwick has

[1:20:37] Voice 9: joined us and um do you want to keep up with introducing this and uh and maybe segue into

[1:20:43] Voice 9: a little update um entertain questions as we go through it

[1:20:47] Planner Chadwick (probable): sure yeah i so i i'm just popping into

[1:20:50] Planner Chadwick (probable): i

[1:20:51] Voice 9: was going to mention through the

[1:20:54] Voice 3: journey the hapc chair is here

[1:21:06] Voice 3: Uh,

[1:21:06] Voice 9: we received the report earlier on the agenda, right?

[1:21:11] Voice 9: You received the minutes from their

[1:21:16] Voice 9: Yeah, I understand that. And what you're saying is that the chair wishes to present that report.

[1:21:22] for

[1:21:22] Voice 9: it okay that wasn't yeah clear to me because we would just normally receive it for information

[1:21:27] Voice 9: but um i'll go to uh planner chadwick and we'll go to the chair of the hapc if he wants to make

[1:21:33] Voice 9: some remarks about his report and then um see how it goes so narissa over to you uh

[1:21:39] Planner Chadwick (probable): thank you chair

[1:21:40] Planner Chadwick (probable): um yeah so i i just wanted to give an update on um where we are at with the the the ocp project

[1:21:48] Planner Chadwick (probable): project just a reminder to everyone that we're currently we have been currently working through

[1:21:54] Planner Chadwick (probable): what we what we called phase one which are is our gabriela visioning 2050 process and that was

[1:22:02] Planner Chadwick (probable): kicked off fall of 2023 with a survey and we've had a number of groups engaged i think i think

[1:22:13] Planner Chadwick (probable): we're at 14 or so groups that have engaged in community-led engagement so we that's where we've

[1:22:20] Planner Chadwick (probable): provided funding for groups to do their own events and collect feedback and we've had a

[1:22:27] Planner Chadwick (probable): so we've had a huge volume of feedback in total we think between 600 to 700

[1:22:35] Planner Chadwick (probable): individuals have participated in the process which is really quite impressive for a population of

[1:22:42] Planner Chadwick (probable): your size and um on on on saturday we are going to be essentially wrapping up the visioning portion

[1:22:53] Planner Chadwick (probable): so the visioning portion um of the of of this um process has again really brought open things

[1:23:02] Planner Chadwick (probable): really wide uh looking for feedback on what people are want in the future for for gabriela with

[1:23:09] Planner Chadwick (probable): with a fairly wide perspective.

[1:23:11] Planner Chadwick (probable): So we'll have an opportunity on Saturday

[1:23:16] Planner Chadwick (probable): to look, to share with you what has emerged,

[1:23:20] Planner Chadwick (probable): what the key values and goals that have emerged

[1:23:24] Planner Chadwick (probable): from all of the data that we've received.

[1:23:26] Planner Chadwick (probable): And there'll be an opportunity for community members

[1:23:29] Planner Chadwick (probable): to discuss those values,

[1:23:32] Planner Chadwick (probable): identify if they do speak to them

[1:23:36] Planner Chadwick (probable): and look at the goals that have emerged related to those values and have an opportunity to talk

[1:23:43] Planner Chadwick (probable): about gaps. And we will at that point be, you know, very clearly identifying those things that

[1:23:51] Planner Chadwick (probable): are land use focused and that will move through and be further discussed within the context of

[1:23:58] Planner Chadwick (probable): the OCP process. And we're also going to provide an opportunity for those that are interested to

[1:24:04] Planner Chadwick (probable): to speak a little bit more about community processes

[1:24:08] Planner Chadwick (probable): to support some of the visions and goals

[1:24:12] Planner Chadwick (probable): that are very specifically related to things

[1:24:16] Planner Chadwick (probable): that the community can be doing,

[1:24:18] Planner Chadwick (probable): like education, there's other things.

[1:24:22] Planner Chadwick (probable): And what I've learned from this process

[1:24:24] Planner Chadwick (probable): and my colleagues have learned

[1:24:25] Planner Chadwick (probable): that are not living on Gabriela

[1:24:27] Planner Chadwick (probable): is that Gabriela is an island

[1:24:29] Planner Chadwick (probable): of a lot of very, very engaged community members.

[1:24:33] Planner Chadwick (probable): So really looking forward to Saturday and, you know, meeting a lot of the people that participated in the process so far.

[1:24:41] Planner Chadwick (probable): And also, you know, really encouraging others that haven't had a chance to participate in the process to come out.

[1:24:52] Voice 8: You have an exciting job.

[1:24:54] Planner Chadwick (probable): Yeah, well, it

[1:24:56] Planner Chadwick (probable): feels pretty exciting.

[1:24:57] Planner Chadwick (probable): exciting yes yeah okay

[1:24:59] Voice 9: um so um I'll go to Stephen Earl right the chairs yes okay for your report

[1:25:08] Voice 9: thank you thanks

[1:25:10] Voice 3: chair welcome and trustee Yates for listening um I like here representing the eight

[1:25:16] Voice 3: members of the housing advisory planning commission we met in late 2003 and early

[1:25:21] Voice 3: 2024 and a number of occasions to discuss your request for some advice on housing issues and

[1:25:31] Voice 3: there's one thing that we agree now is that there is a significant housing crisis

[1:25:36] Voice 3: that there are too many people living rough and or even inadequate buildings or on couches

[1:25:44] Voice 3: and that there are too many people being forced to move away from Gabriel because they can't find

[1:25:53] Voice 3: So we certainly recognize that is a serious problem. And we've come up with a number of proposals, you've seen them in the minutes, but also in this document that we submitted.

[1:26:10] Voice 3: So many of the proposals in this document have the potential to resolve an increased density on specific properties.

[1:26:16] Voice 3: And we propose to the local traffic community that questions around density should be considered

[1:26:23] Voice 3: on the basis of site-specific parameters, including, obviously, water availability,

[1:26:31] Voice 3: septic capacity, ecosystem values, ecosystem preservation and restoration plans, and proximity

[1:26:37] Voice 3: to the vehicles, and that these parameters must be demonstrated by the client.

[1:26:43] Voice 3: point. We also suggest that limitations to the number of

[1:26:47] Voice 3: residents on an existing property on a new development

[1:26:51] Voice 3: should be considered on the basis of these factors rather

[1:26:55] Voice 3: than on familial relationships.

[1:27:04] Voice 3: In some of the polls, I'll just go through this quickly. We

[1:27:08] Voice 3: asked the LTC to request the Trust Council to lobby the

[1:27:12] Voice 3: provincial government to extend the speculation and vacation vacancy tax in other words empty

[1:27:18] Voice 3: homes tax to the gary island trust area we think this is really important we know that there are

[1:27:24] Voice 3: many many homes on gabriel that are empty some of them are empty throughout the year

[1:27:30] Voice 3: and so there's land and there are buildings that nobody's living in when there's a housing crisis

[1:27:37] Voice 3: It will cost nothing to do this, and it could potentially result in some building antiques

[1:27:48] Voice 3: being occupied by people.

[1:27:50] Voice 3: The other thing

[1:27:51] Voice 3: about that is that revenue from the tax would be transferred to an affordable

[1:27:56] Voice 3: housing fund for Gabriel.

[1:27:58] Voice 3: That's part of the legislation.

[1:28:02] Voice 3: So number two, we asked the LTC to make changes to allow increased density in the village

[1:28:08] Voice 3: core area and you know what that's defined as by increasing the permitted number of dwelling

[1:28:15] Voice 3: units on the parcels over one hectare in that area. Partly because we think it's important

[1:28:24] Voice 3: to increase density in this area where people don't have to travel to get to places, or

[1:28:30] Voice 3: at least they can walk or cycle. And also that it reduces the need for increased density

[1:28:39] Voice 3: Number three, we ask the LTC to increase the number of allowable residential units within

[1:28:45] Voice 3: commercial developments, because at present, only one residence is allowed on a commercial

[1:28:54] Voice 3: property, even though there could be the potential for more, and developers have told us that

[1:29:01] Voice 3: it's just not worth it to them to build one residence, for example, on top of a commercial

[1:29:07] Voice 3: can put on it's just too expensive to do that if they could develop three or four or something

[1:29:12] Voice 3: like that it might make it viable so number four we ask the ltc to proactively up zone

[1:29:22] Voice 3: suitable properties in the village core area to allow a market-grade multi-family residential

[1:29:27] Voice 3: development of course with stipulation that some of those dwellings are rented below

[1:29:35] Voice 3: 5. We ask the LCCD to increase options for additional residents in all parts of the Isle by expanding the types of harbour square sanctuary suites and accessory dwellings are permitted.

[1:29:51] Voice 3: More housing is needed on the area and this ties in with the new provincial governments working on the plan.

[1:30:00] Voice 3: for a giveable $40,000 loan that could be used to get some of these things built.

[1:30:06] Voice 3: Six, we asked the LTC to do what was needed to make alternative dwelling units

[1:30:11] Voice 3: possible either on their own or in addition to a primary residence.

[1:30:15] Voice 3: For example, a tiny home is a place for someone who doesn't have other viable options.

[1:30:21] Voice 3: It's a much better option than sleeping in a car or on someone's couch or in a tent.

[1:30:27] Voice 3: Number seven, we asked

[1:30:30] Voice 3: the LTC to create something for clusters of manufactured or tiny or mobile

[1:30:35] Voice 3: homes that meet provincial and federal construction standards.

[1:30:40] Voice 3: And the last one, number eight, we asked the LTC to create a way to allow bare land stratification

[1:30:46] Voice 3: of a property that already has dwellings because that can facilitate and incentivize the construction

[1:30:54] Voice 3: other additional residents where it might not be possible without stratification in place thank you

[1:31:05] Voice 9: thank you very much for you and your committee team's work and um raising the density issue

[1:31:13] Voice 9: and really clear where articulating some solutions um i have

[1:31:19] Voice 12: a couple of questions one for you charlotte

[1:31:21] Voice 12: I'll come in one first, Steve and Earl.

[1:31:23] Voice 12: So these are very practical ideas,

[1:31:28] Voice 12: but you do preface all of them

[1:31:31] Voice 12: that they must be considered on site-specific parameters

[1:31:35] Voice 12: and water availability is the biggest.

[1:31:40] Voice 12: So I read all of these and went, oh, yeah.

[1:31:44] Voice 12: And then I think, how many of these could we actually do?

[1:31:49] Voice 12: I mean, I'm so glad we're doing our water balance

[1:31:52] Voice 12: study with the ocp this is why i said that i reviewed the go ahead with the ocp review unless

[1:31:58] Voice 12: we had that watermelon study because all these wonderful ideas could not be realized without it

[1:32:06] Voice 12: so i just hope that every member of the housing advisory planning committee

[1:32:12] Voice 12: understands your first limitation here because these are

[1:32:19] Voice 12: really creative and really worthwhile

[1:32:22] Voice 12: well every one of them should be considered i think as long as we preface them with the ecology

[1:32:34] Voice 12: all of those places and i have a quick question for you chair luckum um we've talked about the

[1:32:40] Voice 12: speculation and vacancy tax at council before where have we ended up with you have we brought

[1:32:46] Voice 12: the vote to council and his council we

[1:32:48] Voice 9: have not had that conversation at council yet nobody has

[1:32:54] Voice 9: forwarded that

[1:32:54] Voice 12: already i am going to send a request to executive committee to have it included

[1:33:01] Voice 12: in our june on our june council tandem this was a question and i find

[1:33:09] Voice 12: i'm assuming that is possible oh

[1:33:12] Voice 9: yeah that's i think how we would frame that um um

[1:33:15] Voice 9: Um, but that is possible as a question, talk about that and

[1:33:21] Voice 9: maybe, um, better for the LTC

[1:33:26] Voice 9: to formally make that request, but you also have some time to formulate that question

[1:33:34] Voice 9: so that it can end up as a decision of council.

[1:33:38] Voice 9: And of course the challenge with the speculation tax, and we would have to get, see clarity

[1:33:43] Voice 9: on it is whether or not it would apply to the entire island trust area or individual islands

[1:33:49] Voice 9: which is obviously two different things because some folks don't want anything to do with it

[1:33:54] Voice 9: and others do and certainly in those areas of higher density is what I like to consider that

[1:34:01] Voice 9: the applicability seems more appropriate than it does in the more rural locations but that's to be

[1:34:09] Voice 9: decided um by the body so yes i'm

[1:34:14] Voice 12: going to need some advice on that because i have of course spoken

[1:34:17] Voice 12: to gambier keats trustees and yeah it

[1:34:21] Voice 12: doesn't really pertain to them no

[1:34:23] Voice 9: exactly that's a good

[1:34:25] Voice 9: case that's a very good case yeah

[1:34:27] Voice 12: so we'll need information on whether it can be applied to

[1:34:30] Voice 12: individual local trust areas or not i yeah but i'll ask i'll ask the question yeah

[1:34:37] Voice 9: and

[1:34:38] Voice 9: And I'll maybe ask them.

[1:34:40] Voice 9: I can ask them.

[1:34:41] Voice 9: Do you have any suggestions, Stefan?

[1:34:44] Voice 9: Or Stephen, rather?

[1:34:45] Voice 9: Sorry.

[1:34:46] Voice 3: No, nothing beyond speaking to perhaps our director,

[1:34:51] Voice 3: or director Cermak.

[1:34:53] Voice 3: Yeah.

[1:34:54] Voice 9: Right.

[1:34:56] Voice 9: So why don't you follow that through

[1:34:58] Voice 9: and then bring a motion to our next bill.

[1:35:00] Voice 9: I will do that.

[1:35:02] Voice 9: Yeah.

[1:35:02] Voice 12: And while we're speaking of director planning,

[1:35:06] Voice 12: planning director of planning Stefan Cermak he has done an amazing job with the um the housing

[1:35:15] Voice 12: options toolkit that was one of the best toolkits I've ever received in any job I've ever done and

[1:35:21] Voice 12: clearly the housing advisory planning committee has made good use of it as well so helpful right

[1:35:28] Voice 9: Great. Thank you.

[1:35:30] Voice 9: So,

[1:35:30] Voice 9: are you still with us?

[1:35:36] Voice 9: Great. Just wondering if

[1:35:38] Voice 9: you have any advice here with respect

[1:35:40] Voice 9: to the recommendations in the

[1:35:42] Voice 9: Gabrielle Housing Advisory Planning Committee's

[1:35:45] Voice 9: report, and that

[1:35:46] Voice 9: is there anything that

[1:35:48] Voice 9: at some point, maybe not today,

[1:35:51] Voice 9: as Toby Elliott is not

[1:35:53] Voice 9: with us today, and it's probably a

[1:35:55] Voice 9: full-out to see conversation,

[1:35:57] Voice 9: and obviously you're going to learn a few things on Saturday

[1:35:59] Voice 9: too that but the broad question is with respect to the report that we were receiving today is

[1:36:04] Voice 9: there any direction that um should be undertaken at this time with respect to that um

[1:36:10] Planner Chadwick (probable): i think um

[1:36:12] Planner Chadwick (probable): receiving at this point in time is uh is probably as far as we can go um i do and if if uh just for

[1:36:21] Planner Chadwick (probable): For everybody's memory recollection, we were moving forward with the OCP review with housing as a priority.

[1:36:30] Planner Chadwick (probable): And partly part of the reason for that was if if there is another call for funding or what have you, we've now had the housing APC go through and identify essentially some some proposed actions.

[1:36:47] Planner Chadwick (probable): So if we had to jump very quickly and put something together, we can have a focused conversation based on the input that we've received.

[1:36:57] Planner Chadwick (probable): I will add that because of the work that the Housing APC has done to date, when we get into the OCP review, what will be occurring on other themes, essentially, you already have material for housing to begin to think about with respect to the housing policy.

[1:37:26] Planner Chadwick (probable): So it's jumpstarted a bit of the, this will jumpstart that thinking for the OCP process. And, you know, as we move forward, you can, we can make some decisions about whether you want to advance some of the housing recommendations ahead of the OCP process in general or not.

[1:37:50] Planner Chadwick (probable): But that'll require me coming forward with some options for the LTC to consider.

[1:38:01] Voice 9: And if I might ask another question, with your broader Federation white hat on, do you have a sense of the speculation tax interest throughout the trust area?

[1:38:16] Planner Chadwick (probable): I don't have a sense of it. I know that there are other.

[1:38:23] Planner Chadwick (probable): So in the south, for example, that I think that that tax is already being collected.

[1:38:30] Planner Chadwick (probable): And so those islands that are within the CRD, the CRD has recently, it's been, that's been collected for, by, the funding has gone into the organization, I believe it's called the Gulf Islands Tourism Association or something like that.

[1:38:50] Planner Chadwick (probable): So they, but they've also begun to focus on affordable housing. So what I understand is that there's now an agreement to share a portion of that to support the capital regional districts housing, rural housing program.

[1:39:09] Planner Chadwick (probable): program um so but but that type of uh yeah that that type of conversation for the north is is

[1:39:18] Planner Chadwick (probable): something that um um i think is yet to be had and it would it would involve uh engaging all of the

[1:39:25] Planner Chadwick (probable): regional districts because they are essentially the body that would be um have the jurisdiction

[1:39:30] Planner Chadwick (probable): to collect it

[1:39:32] Voice 9: yeah so that's an interesting twist on the theme because i was aware that the

[1:39:39] Voice 9: capital regional district had opted in but of course the islands trust is not necessarily

[1:39:44] Voice 9: opted in and the minister at the time had indicated that it was not intended

[1:39:49] Voice 9: to reach to the uh to the items trust area so obviously that potential for the hand

[1:39:57] Voice 9: of the capital regional district to expand to the southern gulf islands exists but

[1:40:01] Voice 9: um i'm not i don't have a fee i don't know whether or not that tax is actually being

[1:40:08] Voice 9: collected on individual properties or not and then whether or not as the chair of the housing

[1:40:13] Voice 9: committee had indicated that that money would come back to uh how to support housing in the

[1:40:19] Voice 9: in the area which it was collected obviously that money goes to the capital regional district and

[1:40:25] Voice 9: it's up to them to determine where that money goes and it doesn't necessarily end up on main

[1:40:30] Voice 9: island or pender or correct yeah

[1:40:33] Planner Chadwick (probable): yeah yeah so mrdt is municipal and regional district tax so

[1:40:37] Planner Chadwick (probable): So it's not MRDTLT, unfortunately, or IT, unfortunately, right?

[1:40:43] Planner Chadwick (probable): So this is one of those cases where the Islands Trust is essentially dependent on the regional districts to collect that tax for, you know, hopefully for the purposes of...

[1:40:56] Planner Chadwick (probable): And

[1:40:56] Voice 8: give it to us.

[1:40:57] Planner Chadwick (probable): Well, and that's the thing.

[1:40:58] Planner Chadwick (probable): And I think it's taken some time for the CRD to...

[1:41:02] Planner Chadwick (probable): um to and again that money is not necessarily going directly to um as i understand it right

[1:41:08] Planner Chadwick (probable): so my my understanding is very

[1:41:09] Planner Chadwick (probable): um it's very i have a surface level understanding but what i

[1:41:14] Planner Chadwick (probable): understand is um um um i don't yeah i i don't know the details of the crd i know that they're

[1:41:20] Planner Chadwick (probable): collecting it and i know that there's some potential for the funding to go into the rural

[1:41:24] Planner Chadwick (probable): housing uh program of which uh gulf islands is a part of that whole thing but it's only one

[1:41:30] Planner Chadwick (probable): component so um all that to say i think uh you know the first step is really to find out one

[1:41:36] Planner Chadwick (probable): if it's being collected by the regional districts and then um the next steps are to have those

[1:41:42] Planner Chadwick (probable): discussions um around you know whether it could be and whether the money could be directed

[1:41:47] Planner Chadwick (probable): uh specifically like back to to programs um for the uh for the islands that's helpful because

[1:41:55] Voice 11: Because you mentioned that some of it was going to tourism.

[1:41:59] Planner Chadwick (probable): That's the way that I understand it.

[1:42:01] Voice 9: Yeah, I think that

[1:42:02] Voice 9: is the case.

[1:42:03] Planner Chadwick (probable): For the CRD.

[1:42:04] Planner Chadwick (probable): So that's the way that I – I don't really – I have no understanding.

[1:42:08] Planner Chadwick (probable): I have no clue of what's happening in any other regional districts at this point in time.

[1:42:16] Planner Chadwick (probable): Because I've been working on some housing programs with Justine Stark at CRD.

[1:42:23] Planner Chadwick (probable): i have some familiarity with uh with with some of the you know what's going on there so i don't know

[1:42:29] Planner Chadwick (probable): um i don't know how if it is or i or how it might be um collected but i i don't think it i don't

[1:42:37] Planner Chadwick (probable): think it is in a number of places but again i don't i have i don't have any um confirmation

[1:42:44] Planner Chadwick (probable): i just haven't dug into it

[1:42:45] Planner Chadwick (probable): thank

[1:42:46] Voice 9: you for wading into that allowing me to drag you into that um

[1:42:51] Voice 9: And I appreciate what you've offered and provided some clarity, which is similar to my shallow understanding of it.

[1:43:00] Voice 9: But indeed, just for the chair's benefit, it means engaging with nine regional districts in this area, which you can well imagine would be interesting.

[1:43:11] Voice 9: So

[1:43:11] Voice 12: I would like to ask our regional director, Craig, if she has any comment on the issue.

[1:43:17] Voice 12: Well, for the MRDT, Regional District 1 and 9 does collect in the northern areas, and

[1:43:25] Voice 12: the ability to direct it to housing is a new option.

[1:43:29] Voice 12: Before, it was tourism, that was the reason it was brought in, but now you can divert it to housing, and actually Cortez just brought that in with the funding,

[1:43:41] Voice 12: money specifically only to housing and um actually the avic conference if you're going to be there

[1:43:50] Voice 5: yes

[1:43:51] Voice 12: and he's one of the people that's on the panel and i've been

[1:43:54] Voice 12: talking to him about mrdt

[1:43:56] Voice 12: i must say i haven't i've been chatting in the background with with trustees and things and

[1:44:02] Voice 12: and there wasn't a lot of interest actually in mrdt yeah i know i

[1:44:07] Voice 12: know that as well from

[1:44:09] Voice 12: and chatting with the trustees at council,

[1:44:11] Voice 12: but Cortez is ideal

[1:44:12] Voice 12: because there are so many vacant.

[1:44:15] Voice 9: And not in the Alice Trust here.

[1:44:17] Voice 9: And

[1:44:17] Voice 12: they're not in the Alice Trust here.

[1:44:19] Voice 9: And they have

[1:44:19] Voice 12: a lot of short-term rentals.

[1:44:22] Voice 12: They do.

[1:44:23] Voice 12: They generate actually a fair amount of funding.

[1:44:26] Voice 12: Okay.

[1:44:27] Planner Chadwick (probable): Yeah, and just sort of through the chair,

[1:44:32] Planner Chadwick (probable): just a little anecdote.

[1:44:34] Planner Chadwick (probable): And one thing that I do know

[1:44:36] Planner Chadwick (probable): is that I know Tofino's been directing their MR,

[1:44:38] Planner Chadwick (probable): they've been collecting it and directing it to housing for quite some time and that's actually

[1:44:43] Planner Chadwick (probable): how they've funded um they've got uh that they've got uh um a non-profit that built like a tofino

[1:44:50] Planner Chadwick (probable): based uh non-profit that has been um very effective in um in building some affordable

[1:44:58] Planner Chadwick (probable): housing and they and they're funded very much through that tax so there is a there are examples

[1:45:03] Planner Chadwick (probable): out there it's nice to know that there's an example an island example as well okay

[1:45:09] Voice 9: so

[1:45:11] Voice 9: i believe you've spoken to your 9.2 the gabrielle 2050 engagement yep

[1:45:20] Planner Chadwick (probable): yep yep march

[1:45:23] Planner Chadwick (probable): saturday i'll just plug it one more time it's saturday from uh one to four i haven't provided

[1:45:28] Planner Chadwick (probable): the details from one to four at the at the haven perfect thank you yep

[1:45:33] Voice 3: chair earl do you have any

[1:45:35] Voice 3: I'd just like to thank

[1:45:36] Voice 3: Leonard Chandler and Leonard Hall

[1:45:38] Voice 3: for their help with the

[1:45:40] Voice 3: HAPC.

[1:45:43] Voice 9: It's great. It's great

[1:45:45] Voice 9: to know that those lines of communication

[1:45:47] Voice 9: exist and the way they are.

[1:45:48] Voice 9: Thank you, everybody.

[1:45:51] Voice 9: Okay. So then I think that

[1:45:53] Voice 9: concludes the local trust committee project

[1:45:55] Voice 9: section, which is our break.

[1:45:57] Voice 9: And so let's break at 10 minutes

[1:45:59] Voice 9: after, well, maybe

[1:46:01] Voice 9: it's actually quarter after, because I go out slow.

[1:46:03] Voice 9: so we're bang on time today it's amazing and so let's break for half an hour we'll return to 12

[1:46:08] Voice 9: 45 and i'm going to mute the uh the audio and uh i think i'm just going to turn off the video i

[1:46:16] Voice 9: don't know will you have the ability to post a little sign anything perfect thank you will

[1:46:21] Voice 12: yes yes and thank you directly so

[1:46:24] Voice 9: we'll reset and return it to 12

[2:13:39] Voice 4: on one two

[2:13:48] Voice 5: three camera refocus there

[2:13:52] Voice 4: we go

[2:14:08] Voice 9: so we ready to begin looks like we're streaming

[2:14:10] Voice 5: everything okay

[2:14:12] Voice 9: so welcome back everybody um to uh the gabriella local trust committee meeting here

[2:14:19] Voice 9: of march the 21st spring has come

[2:14:22] Voice 5: and

[2:14:24] Voice 9: um we've had a busy morning with the minutes and uh

[2:14:29] Voice 9: Applications and projects completed.

[2:14:32] Voice 9: Now we're going to launch into the remaining part of our agenda here.

[2:14:36] Voice 9: We've got one piece of correspondence on the agenda.

[2:14:42] Voice 9: We've got a number of pieces of correspondence associated

[2:14:45] Voice 9: with the temporary use permit we noted earlier,

[2:14:48] Voice 9: and that's on the web page.

[2:14:50] Voice 9: Any other correspondence associated with projects or applications

[2:14:55] Voice 9: would be on the website associated with that work.

[2:14:59] Voice 9: and so normally uh correspondence is received for information on the system direction uh

[2:15:06] Voice 9: that trustees would like to take with respect to it so 10.1 email from uh brent regarding secondary

[2:15:13] Voice 9: suites it's actually from paula brent or p brent yeah p brent yeah uh regarding secondary suites

[2:15:21] Voice 9: um so is there any action you'd like to take with that uh susan i've been receiving it just

[2:15:26] Voice 12: for receiving it and it looks like she's she's been in correspondence with one of our planners

[2:15:31] Voice 12: so that's helpful great

[2:15:33] Voice 9: okay well thank the writer for their letter and

[2:15:37] Voice 5: that's great so

[2:15:41] Voice 9: then i'll move to the new business section gabriella collins covenant uh a verbal uh

[2:15:48] Voice 9: discussion on that um is that with the planning staff or with us for the verbal discussion

[2:15:58] of land. Thank you. Excellent. Thank you. The LDC previously indicated support signatories to

[2:16:06] their cabinet for

[2:16:07] Voice 3: the Gabriel and Collins property at 675 North Road and in order to

[2:16:13] Voice 3: protect that land as a community client the LDC also requested staff receive a legal review of

[2:16:18] Voice 3: the cabinet or of the draft covenant I should say but at the time the LDC did not indicate a budget

[2:16:25] Voice 3: to cover the cost um so or or seek the cost recovery agreement of the Gabriel Collins

[2:16:33] Voice 3: foundation so staff have received a cold mount for the legal review and the cost is in excess

[2:16:39] Voice 3: of five hundred dollars um so approval from executive committee is required um so that's

[2:16:46] Voice 3: this motion here is a staff recommendation to uh what the LPC requests to approve the funds for

[2:16:54] Voice 3: delete or review. And one note about the motion agenda cover

[2:17:03] page there. Just

[2:17:04] Voice 3: if the words up to before the 4.500 could be

[2:17:12] Voice 3: added, if that's the most you'll be able to see, then that might

[2:17:15] Voice 3: just be a bit more functional.

[2:17:20] Voice 3: Up

[2:17:20] Voice 12: to? Did you say Steven?

[2:17:22] Voice 12: Yeah. Okay.

[2:17:26] Voice 5: okay we

[2:17:29] Voice 12: have to make that motion i move that the gabrielle island local trust committee

[2:17:34] Voice 12: requests that the executive committee approve up to four thousand five hundred dollars for the

[2:17:40] Voice 12: legal review of a covenant to be charged to the gabrielle island local trust committee budget

[2:17:58] Voice 9: i'm struggling for the moment with the wording there and there were i assumed that um that you

[2:18:05] Voice 9: were asking is it continues to approve the funding for that um but then you said the motion says to

[2:18:11] Voice 9: be charged to the gabrielle trust committee budget so this just outside of the spending expense but

[2:18:17] Voice 3: yeah there's no there's no ltc line item that would okay so the procurement policy

[2:18:25] Voice 3: city um

[2:18:26] Voice 9: now right now i missed that so so then i'll second motion um and um ask if there's any

[2:18:36] Voice 9: discussion then i'll call for the vote all those in favor that carries you now awesome all right

[2:18:42] Voice 9: so the next item then 11.2 advertising trustee hours and the gabriel center newspaper verbal

[2:18:49] Voice 9: discussion implement um this is

[2:18:52] Voice 3: also also want to be added and actually the argument was flagged

[2:18:57] Voice 3: that the more information is needed to review this account spending before bringing this back so

[2:19:03] Voice 3: unless unless the ltc decides they do not i don't have interest in this anymore

[2:19:09] Voice 3: and this which is and i should say this topic is the advertising

[2:19:12] Voice 3: i'm going to be real it's on for trustee off this hour um

[2:19:16] Voice 3: then we'll just um no more

[2:19:18] Voice 3: i i do

[2:19:21] Voice 12: have interest in this and i know for sure that people read it and use it so um if we need

[2:19:30] Voice 12: more information before we make this motion that's that's fine with me thank you so you're

[2:19:35] Voice 9: recommending that we seek more yeah

[2:19:38] Voice 3: yeah i mean you can work you over if you wish to make more

[2:19:41] Voice 3: from the effect that's fine otherwise i'll just we'll just do this review of this account and

[2:19:46] Voice 3: bring this back in the future that

[2:19:48] Voice 12: would be great can we have it back by the next meeting

[2:19:53] Voice 3: um if you give a revolution that would help uh please okay

[2:19:59] Voice 12: um i move that the gabriel island

[2:20:02] Voice 12: local health committee request staff to bring back to our next local class committee meeting

[2:20:14] Voice 12: advice about our communications budget for advertising and gabriel sounder newspaper

[2:20:28] Voice 5: you got that reason i'll second the motion any discussion all those in favor

[2:20:37] Voice 5: perfect

[2:20:38] Voice 9: i'm going to keep rolling here uh nothing for the trust conservancy today although you know

[2:20:46] Voice 9: that you had a meeting um the other day and

[2:20:50] Voice 12: and i did and i did note that we have new signs for

[2:20:52] Voice 12: still weeks pay nature

[2:20:54] Voice 9: research which we have

[2:20:55] Voice 12: asked for right here and we've got so we're very

[2:20:58] Voice 12: happy about that okay

[2:20:59] Voice 9: so i'll continue on then yeah

[2:21:01] Voice 12: so

[2:21:02] Voice 9: application report dated march 13th any

[2:21:04] Voice 9: questions for staff on any of the applications no all right so 12.3 12.4 um items for the receipt

[2:21:18] Voice 9: for the mentioned local expense report and adopting policies standing resolutions if

[2:21:23] Voice 9: there's no questions there we'll receive those yep all right so first nations relationship

[2:21:29] Voice 9: building update we're planning on let's just say there's a we have met once electronically

[2:21:37] Voice 9: with snanemo uh leadership and there's plans to meet further and um we're excited we are

[2:21:45] Voice 9: really happy about that climate change action update we have anything here today no

[2:21:54] Voice 12: but i must

[2:21:54] Voice 12: say that i'm always appreciative um when we get from um i guess from the director of planning at

[2:22:02] Voice 12: council yeah um our climate change everything that we're doing towards climate change and i

[2:22:08] Voice 12: really appreciate that yeah

[2:22:10] Voice 9: i think exactly can we advance that because we were silent on it yes

[2:22:14] Voice 12: Yes, yes. And it's quite detailed, actually, in how we're dealing with it. So that's really helpful.

[2:22:22] Voice 9: Okay, so the local trust committee webpage, this is just an opportunity to modify it outside of the normal course of events.

[2:22:33] Voice 9: So our work program, we have an active projects report and a future projects report. Are you interested in a conversation or discussion there, Simon?

[2:22:44] Voice 12: No. The active project report is very active because we will be having a meeting this Saturday

[2:22:50] Voice 12: about the official community plan engagement process. So I did have a meeting at the trust

[2:22:57] Voice 12: office yesterday with someone who is interested in getting the business of fire safety and wildfires

[2:23:04] Voice 12: into the official community plan somewhere. So I assured him that it would be included.

[2:23:10] Voice 12: it all

[2:23:11] Voice 9: right so then uh next item now will be our upcoming meeting next meeting is thursday april

[2:23:18] Voice 9: 28th this lovely location again looking forward to seeing you all back here okay

[2:23:28] Voice 9: april

[2:23:28] Voice 5: 18th that's what i said okay so

[2:23:32] Voice 9: then we're going to go into our closed meeting now

[2:23:35] Voice 9: I just advise the members of the public, we're likely to adjourn the meeting and when we

[2:23:41] Voice 9: have recording, we're calling to order, and likely we'll report it

[2:23:45] Voice 12: out at the beginning

[2:23:52] Voice 9: of our next meeting, so I'll turn to Trustee Yates for a motion.

[2:24:02] Voice 12: yes make that motion i move that the meeting be closed to the public in accordance with the

[2:24:11] Voice 12: community charter part four division three section 91 for the purpose of considering

[2:24:20] Voice 12: 91a part of the council meeting may be closed to the public if the subject matter being considered

[2:24:27] Voice 12: Oh, oh, is this a shorter one? Oh, this is much better. My apologies.

[2:24:33] Voice 12: I move to close the meeting in accordance with the Community Charter Part 4, Division 3, Section 91, F and I, for the purpose of considering law enforcement if the Council considers that disclosure could reasonably be expected to harm the conduct of an investigation

[2:24:51] Voice 12: under enforcement of an enactment the receipt of advice that is subject to solicitor client

[2:24:58] Voice 12: privilege including communications necessary for that purpose and that the recorder and staff

[2:25:04] Voice 12: attend the meeting thank you perfect second that motion

[2:25:08] Voice 12: call for the vote

[2:25:09] Voice 12: in favor that

[2:25:11] Voice 5: carries i'm going to excuse myself great thank you so much

[2:25:17] Voice 5: give me

[2:25:20] Voice 13: a moment while i

[2:25:20] Voice 5: stop a moment while i stop

[2:25:24] Voice 12: the stream and the recording

[2:25:27] Voice 9: uh show you up oh no i don't need to do anything you're just going to do that at your end right

[2:25:31] Voice 9: i'll just do it at my end yep just give me a moment so we return from the um in camera

[2:25:38] Voice 9: meeting here on gabriella island and um we're going to rise and report um at our next meeting

[2:25:45] Voice 9: uh formally um that um minutes were received from the previous in cameras session and we received

[2:25:53] Voice 9: some legal advice that's it and if there's no further business today i'll cut for june

[2:25:58] Voice 9: that carries thank you very much for a great meeting thank you chair look at that quarter

[2:26:05] Voice 9: past one yeah so you can get what i

[2:26:10] Voice 12: took there um lauren i have another question

[2:26:14] Voice 12: Thank you guys too.

[2:26:14] Voice 12: Have

[2:26:14] Voice 5: a good one.

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Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee 
Minutes of Regular Meeting 
 
Date:  
Location:  
March 21, 2024 
Gabriola Arts & Heritage Centre 
476 South Road, Gabriola Island, BC 
 
Members Present: Peter Luckham, Chair 
 Susan Yates, Trustee 
 
Regrets: Tobi Elliott, Trustee 
  
Staff Present: Stephen Baugh, Island Planner 
 Narissa Chadwick, Island Planner, via Zoom 
 Warren Dingman, Bylaw Compliance & Enforcement Manager 
William Shulba, Freshwater Specialist, via Zoom 
 Lisa Millard, Recorder 
  
Others Present: There were approximately 11 members of the public in attendance. 
 
1. CALL TO ORDER 
“Please note, the order of agenda items may be modified during the meeting. Times are provided 
for convenience only and are subject to change.” 
Chair Luckham called the meeting to order at 10:30 am. He acknowledged that the meeting was 
held on the territory of the Coast Salish First Nations.  
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 
By general consent the agenda was approved as presented. 
3. REPORTS 
3.1 Trustee Reports 
Trustee Yates reported the following: 
 She attended the Gabriola Arts Council 2050 Visioning meeting; 
 She attended a special Local Trust Committee meeting with Snuneymuxw First 
Nation representatives Elder Geraldine Manson, Executive Advisor to the Chief 
Erralyn Joseph, and Lands Clerk Hannah Paulson; 
 She attended a Regional District of Nanaimo meeting focussed on the draft master 
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 She attended an Islands Trust Conservancy board meeting in which input was 
received from Ken Thomas of the Penelakut Tribe in preparation for updating the 
Conservancy’s five-year plan to ensure adequate engagement with First Nations; 
and 
 She noted that the Islands Trust budget passed at Trust Council and she was pleased 
that funds have been provided for a water balance study. 
 
Trustee Elliott provided a written report as follows: 
 She is absent from the meeting today while she attends a conference hosted by 
Ahousaht First Nation focused on developing strategies for food security and 
sovereignty for all Nations across Vancouver Island;  
 She will continue holding office hours; 
 She noted Wil Cottingham’s upcoming retirement from her administration position 
in the Northern Office and thanked Wil for her contributions; 
 She will attend the September Trust Council meeting being held on Gabriola; 
 She did an interview with CHLY radio about Trust Council, Gabriola's Official 
Community Plan review, and why water balance is critical to land suitability analysis 
for planning; 
 She will be attending an upcoming Association of Vancouver Island Coastal 
Communities convention during which she will advocate for the Islands Trust’s 
resolution to request that the province revise the guidelines and update the manual 
on composting toilets and grey water; 
 She attended a spring gathering with the Culturally Committed group during which 
Beau Wagner, who carved the traditional canoe with the Gabriola school children in 
2021-22, shared the importance of x’pey (cedar) while they made cedar bracelets; 
and 
 She will be attending the upcoming Official Community Plan community meeting. 
 
3.2 Chair's Report 
Chair Luckham stated he participated in the recent Trust Council session which included 
budget deliberations and approval, attendance at a workshop on the goals and priorities 
of Islands Trust, and attendance at a session focused on communications surrounding 
the launching of the Islands Trust policy statement.  
3.3 Electoral Area Director's Report 
Electoral Area Director Vanessa Craig was in attendance and stated that she had 
submitted a report electronically. She also noted the Ministry of Transportation and 
Infrastructure indicated that they had posted information about the roadside verge 
brushing on Gabriola, and that brushing, versus mowing, occurs every three years. 
Further follow-up is forthcoming as there was limited awareness of this notice being 
given. 
3.4 First Nations Reports - none 

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4. PUBLIC COMMENTS 
A member of the public stated the following: 
 They live near the property that has a Temporary Use Permit application being heard today; 
 The roadway map erroneously shows a connection all the way to Norwich Road; however, 
the road stops at the applicant’s property and turns into a very narrow roadway that is 
maintained by local property owners; 
 There have been occasions when the driveway access has been blocked; and 
 There is very little parking available on the applicant’s property. 
 
The same member of the public asked if a permit allows for a commercial rental or if it is 
restricted to a vacation rental. 
o The Chair replied that a Temporary Use Permit allows for non-permitted use, and a 
commercial rental could be a possibility under the permitting guidelines. 
5. DELEGATIONS 
5.1 Rob Griesdale & Erica Nassichuk regarding Provincial Short-Term Vacation Rentals 
Legislation 
Erica Nassichuk was not in attendance.  
Rob Griesdale made the following points: 
 They have a Temporary Use Permit for a short-term vacation rental and the permit 
is up for renewal; 
 They use the property as a residence; 
 They believe short-term vacation rentals offer a lot of benefit to the community; 
 Banning short-term rentals will not necessarily turn those rentals into long-term 
housing stock; 
 Their guests spend approximately $500 (five hundred dollars) in the community 
during their stay; 
 They employ a local cleaner; 
 They rent to a variety of individuals including tourists, whale researchers, guests of 
local families, trades people, and BC Hydro employees; 
 Gabriola hotels do not provide enough rooms to meet the demand; 
 The Temporary Use Permit process allows the Local Trust Committee to oversee 
short-term rentals to ensure they are operating for the benefit of the community; 
and 
 They believe that short-term vacation rental owners that are operating without a 
permit will not be deterred by a ban on vacation rentals. 
 
Trustee Yates responded with the following observations: 
o She understands that curtailing short-term rentals might not lead to more 
long-term rentals; 
o There is concern that there is a trend of individuals purchasing housing stock 
specifically to be used as vacation rentals, which has caused a false rise in real 
estate prices.  

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o Gabriola can only support a limited number of short-term rentals, particularly 
in areas with water problems; and 
o While some employment can be gained due to short-term rental operations, 
there is a lack of housing for the individuals performing the work. 
6. MINUTES 
6.1 Local Trust Committee Special Meeting Minutes dated April 28, 2023 - for adoption 
By general consent the Local Trust Committee Special meeting minutes of April 28, 2023 
were adopted. 
6.2 Local Trust Committee Minutes dated February 22, 2024 – for adoption 
By general consent the Local Trust Committee meeting minutes of February 22, 2024 
were adopted. 
6.3 Section 26 Resolutions-Without-Meeting Report - none 
6.4 Housing Advisory Planning Commission Minutes dated February 22, 2024 - for receipt 
  Received for information. 
7. BUSINESS ARISING FROM MINUTES 
7.1 Follow-up Action List dated March 13, 2024 
  Received for information 
8. APPLICATIONS AND REFERRALS 
8.1 GB-TUP-2023.5 (Godfrey and Georgiev) - Staff Report 
  The Planner summarized the staff report and highlighted the following: 
 The application is for a commercial vacation rental within a single-family dwelling; 
 The applicants plan to use the property as their principal residence, and leave the 
property when it is being used by guests; 
 The property previously operated as a bed and breakfast; 
 A commercial vacation rental allows guests to use the kitchen and up to three 
bedrooms versus two bedrooms that are allowed in a bed and breakfast; 
 The applicant has submitted a referral to Snuneymuxw First Nation and a response 
has not been received yet; and 
 Staff are requesting direction from the Local Trust Committee regarding water and 
privacy screening. 
 
The applicants are in attendance and made the following comments: 
 To conserve water they did a water flow test for a ten second interval only; 
 The well supplies three households and the gallons per minute rating is substantial 
enough to support the use; 
 They have a large cistern on a well water trickle system; 

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 One of the applicants has lived on the property full-time for two years and often has 
up to ten guests throughout the summer, there is a large bathtub that is filled twice 
per day, a garden that is watered daily, plus a hot tub and there has been ample 
water to supply this use; 
 Short-term vacation rental use will result in less water used in the summer than 
what is used currently; 
 They received a response from the Snuneymuxw First Nation indicating they would 
receive a referral response this week; 
 In response to letters received from neighbours, they note that there was a parking 
issue that they have attempted to correct, they understand the challenges 
associated with the proximity of another neighbour’s driveway, they are happy to 
work with neighbours regarding water rights and use, and there is limited traffic on 
the road; 
 The house has also been used by individuals needing longer term accommodation 
while searching for property to buy; 
 Short-term accommodations could support the tourism economy; 
 They have received a quote on grading the road and hope that neighbours will be 
interested in having the work done and sharing the cost; 
 They are willing to investigate privacy screening; 
 They have tried to be proactive regarding parking and the Surf Lodge has agreed to 
let them use some parking, if needed; and 
 They are happy to address any concerns. 
 
Islands Trust Fresh Water Specialist William Shulba commented as follows: 
o He worked with the Planner on crafting the recommendation that the applicant 
obtain a proof of water report from a professional hydrology specialist; 
o If the Local Trust Committee requires proof of water for any application it 
should be done by a professional; and 
o Proof of water should not be a subjective process. 
 
The applicant enquired if the Local Trust Committee recommends who performs the 
water test. 
Chair Luckham replied that: 
o The applicant is responsible for selecting a professional to perform the testing, 
and that professional would specify how proof of water is determined, as well 
as ensuring the test is conducted to their professional standard; 
o If the well is shared, he assumes that there is a water board responsible for 
management of the water supply; and  
o The Local Trust Committee takes the needs of all users of the well into 
consideration. 
 
Trustee Yates commented as follows: 
o There are water concerns because three households use the well; 
o The cisterns are not rainwater catchment cisterns but fed from the well; 

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o Neighbours have indicated concern about parking, noise, and privacy issues; 
o The home is in a small neighbourhood; 
o Privacy screening might be made a requirement of the Temporary Use 
Guidelines for the property; and 
o She would like to see the referral response from the Snuneymuxw First Nation. 
 
GB-2024-019 
It was MOVED and SECONDED 
that the Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee request the applicant provide a 
proof of water report from a professional engineer or geoscientist with competency 
in hydrogeology in consideration of the Temporary Use Permit Guidelines from the 
Gabriola Island Official Community Plan.  
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9. LOCAL TRUST COMMITTEE PROJECTS 
9.1 Major Project: Gabriola Island Comprehensive Official Community Plan and Land Use 
Bylaw Review: Housing Advisory Planning Commission Housing Policy Review 
Recommendations Report Presentation 
Steve Earle, Chair of the Housing Advisory Planning Commission, stated that any 
proposed recommendations that result in an increase in density need to be based on 
site-specific parameters, including water availability, septic capacity, and ecosystem 
preservation, and any limitations to the number of residents on an existing property and 
on a new development should be considered based on these factors rather than on 
familial relationships. 
 
Mr. Earle summarized the recommendations report, which asks that the Local Trust 
Committee: 
 Request that Trust Council lobby the provincial government to extend the 
Speculation and Vacancy Tax to the Gabriola Island Trust Area,  
 Make changes to allow increased density in the Village Core area by increasing the 
permitted number of dwelling units on all parcels over 1 hectare; 
 To increase the number of allowed residential units within commercial 
developments, and that the number of units should be proportional to the 
commercial floor area; 
 Proactively up-zone suitable properties in the Village Core area to allow for market 
rate multi-family residential development with stipulation that a proportion of 
dwellings must be rented below market value; 
 Increase options for additional residences in all parts of the island by expanding the 
types of properties where secondary suites and accessory dwelling units are 
permitted; 
 Do what is needed to make alternative dwelling units, that meet provincial and 
federal construction standards, possible either on their own or in addition to a 
primary residence;  

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 Create zoning for clusters of manufactured, tiny, and mobile homes that meet 
provincial and federal construction standards; and 
 Create a way to allow bare-land stratification of a property that already has a 
dwelling. 
 
Discussion ensued and it was noted that the Regional District of Nanaimo would have 
jurisdictional authority to collect the vacancy tax; however, the tax would not 
necessarily be directed to Islands Trust housing programs. This topic will be discussed at 
the upcoming Association of Vancouver Island and Coastal Communities conference.  
9.2 Major Project: Gabriola Island Comprehensive Official Community Plan and Land Use 
Bylaw Review: Gabriola 2050 Engagement - verbal update 
Planner Chadwick provided a verbal update and highlighted the following: 
 They have been working through phase one of the Official Community Plan project 
which has included the  Gabriola Visioning 2050 community-led engagement events 
with over 700 (seven hundred) individuals participating in the process; and 
 A community meeting will be held on Saturday, March 23 which will focus on 
sharing the key values and goals that have emerged from the data received to date, 
and the meeting will provide the opportunity for community members to discuss 
processes that can support some of the visions and goals.  
 
The meeting recessed for a break at 12:15 p.m. and reconvened at 12:45 p.m. 
10. CORRESPONDENCE 
(Correspondence received concerning current applications or projects is posted to the LTC 
webpage) 
10.1 Email dated February 27, 2024 from P. Brent regarding Secondary Suites 
Received for information. 
11. NEW BUSINESS 
11.1 Gabriola Commons Covenant - verbal discussion 
The Planner stated that the Local Trust Committee had previously requested that staff 
obtain a legal review of the covenant; however, a budget for the review was not 
established. Staff have received an estimate of costs which will require approval from 
the Executive Committee. 
 
GB-2024-020 
It was MOVED and SECONDED 
that the Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee request that the Executive Committee 
approve up to $4,500 (four thousand five hundred dollars) for the legal review of a 
covenant, to be charged to the Gabriola Island Local Trust Committee budget.   
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11.2 Advertising Trustee Hours in the Gabriola Sounder Newspaper - verbal discussion 
The Planner advised that more information is required to review the request. 
 
  GB-2024-021 
  It was MOVED and SECONDED 
that the Gabriola Local Trust Committee request staff to bring back to the next Local 
Trust Committee meeting advice about the communications budget for advertising in 
the Gabriola Sounder newspaper. 
CARRIED 
  
12. STAFF REPORTS 
12.1 Trust Conservancy Report - none 
12.2 Applications Report dated March 13, 2024 
  Received for information. 
12.3 Trustee and Local Expense Report dated January, 2024 
  Received for information. 
12.4 Adopted Policies and Standing Resolutions 
  Received for information. 
12.5 First Nations Relationship Building Update 
The Local Trust Committee is planning a second meeting with Snuneymuxw First Nation 
leadership members. 
12.6 Climate Change Action Update - none 
12.7 Local Trust Committee Webpage - none 
13. WORK PROGRAM 
13.1 Active Projects Report dated March 13, 2024 
  Received for information. 
13.2 Future Projects Report dated March 13, 2024 
  Received for information. 
14. UPCOMING MEETINGS 
14.1 Next Regular Meeting Scheduled for Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 10:30 am at the 
Gabriola Arts and Heritage Centre 
 

 ADOPTED 
 
 
 
Gabriola Island ADOPTED 9 
Local Trust Committee Minutes 
March 21, 2024 
15. CLOSED MEETING 
15.1 Motion to Close the Meeting 
GB-2024-022 
It was MOVED and SECONDED  
that the meeting be closed to the public in accordance with the Community Charter, 
Part 4, Division 3, s.90(1) (f)&(i) for the purpose of considering: 
 (f) law enforcement, if the council considers that disclosure could reasonably be 
expected to harm the conduct of an investigation under or enforcement of an 
enactment;  
 (i) the receipt of advice that is subject to solicitor-client privilege, including 
communications necessary for that purpose; 
and that the Recorder and Staff attend the meeting.             
CARRIED 
 
The recorder declared a potential conflict of interest and left the meeting at 12:55 p.m. 
The regular meeting was closed to the public at 12:55 p.m. and reconvened at 1:12 p.m.  
15.2 Recall to Order 
 The recorder returned at 1:13 p.m. 
Chair Luckham reported that In-Camera meeting minutes were adopted and that they received 
a legal opinion. 
16. ADJOURNMENT 
By general consent the meeting was adjourned at 1:13 p.m. 
 
 
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Peter Luckham, Chair 
 
Certified Correct: 
 
 
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Lisa Millard, Recorder