Mayne Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, May 27, 2024

[0:00:00] Trustee Maude: Okay,

[0:00:00] Voice 3: folks, we're gonna start pretty quick. I'm just gonna

[0:00:03] Voice 3: find my agenda.

[0:00:07] Voice 3: Three

[0:00:08] Trustee Maude: times I've said

[0:00:08] Trustee Maude: so I

[0:00:10] Voice 3: spoke too soon.

[0:00:13] Trustee Maude: You can print them, but it's less you're going to get saved.

[0:00:17] Trustee Maude: Because it doesn't save them.

[0:00:23] Voice 3: Good afternoon, everyone.

[0:00:29] Voice 3: No members of the public present, but your faithful local trustees for the Maine Island

[0:00:36] Voice 3: Local Trust Committee are here, and we're going to call this meeting to order.

[0:00:42] Voice 3: My name is Toby Elliott, I'm the chair of the Maine Island Local Trust Committee elected

[0:00:47] Voice 3: on Gabriela Island, and just want to start by acknowledging that we are grateful and

[0:00:52] Voice 3: and always want to situate ourselves in the place

[0:00:56] Voice 3: in which we live and work and make decisions.

[0:00:59] Voice 3: So all these islands are in the lands of many Coast Salish peoples,

[0:01:04] Voice 3: and here, particularly on Maine, some Joplin-speaking peoples

[0:01:08] Voice 3: who have stewarded these lands and waters since time immemorial.

[0:01:13] Voice 3: So introducing your two local trustees, of course,

[0:01:15] Voice 3: you know them very well, the Dodds.

[0:01:19] Voice 3: Do you want to say any words, or is that okay?

[0:01:23] Voice 3: I think the first time we've had a completely empty room I'm sure someone

[0:01:26] Voice 3: I'm hoping and David Watts my right and our planner uh Melissa John

[0:01:34] Voice 3: I hear I hear oh yes

[0:01:37] Voice 3: I figured well I'm late and I thought I'd creep into the back

[0:01:59] Voice 3: So, just to remind everyone that these meetings are recorded, and they're available online

[0:02:06] Voice 3: within a few days after the meeting, they're also being live streamed.

[0:02:10] Voice 3: We have a new recording notice about personal recordings of the meetings, and so just a note that members of the public wishing to personally record the meeting may do so, provided they inform the chair beforehand, and that's so that anyone in the room who's not comfortable being recorded, of course not your elected officials, we don't have a choice, but they can ask not to be recorded.

[0:02:39] Voice 3: it and so then we'll just do that so if the chair requests the recording to be paused or stopped at

[0:02:46] Voice 3: the point please comply promptly this is a new policy and we're just testing that to not get

[0:02:53] Voice 3: my phone going and then

[0:02:54] Voice 1: if you're not i

[0:02:55] Voice 3: can't stop you but i just let me know on the other hand you

[0:02:59] Voice 3: could you could go to the website it'll all be there okay so with that i'll ask to approve the

[0:03:08] Voice 3: agenda is there anything to add we're going to add under new business about writing a letter

[0:03:14] Voice 3: to the ministry of transport about our concern about the construction on georgia road above

[0:03:22] Voice 3: the ocean above the road below the road so we'll add 13.2 decent new business uh georgina point

[0:03:30] Voice 3: construction letter of concern yeah um great and i also wondered is there any value because do we

[0:03:39] Voice 3: have a second i'm conceivable important thing um yeah so i just let's i'm going to add our

[0:03:45] Voice 3: derelict boats okay in general because i think 13.3 uh derelict vessels um to be addressed yeah

[0:03:54] Voice 3: good okay so we'll adopt the or we'll approve the agenda as amended

[0:04:02] Voice 3: and move into our town hall said you have lots to share with us today

[0:04:06] Voice 3: we've

[0:04:07] Trustee Maude: only got a couple hours

[0:04:08] Trustee Maude: i

[0:04:08] Voice 3: was talking with rick who was rick avalacolic and i you know i keep encouraging him you know

[0:04:20] Voice 3: please keep doing this stuff that he does and and so he couldn't be here so i said okay i'm going to

[0:04:26] Voice 3: but i'm gonna have to come more often yeah we're friendly talk to neighbors

[0:04:35] Voice 3: you're here about dearly i am but

[0:04:38] Voice 3: i'm actually interested in your meeting and i'm here to listen

[0:04:41] Voice 3: and i well sorry i

[0:04:43] Voice 3: haven't come town hall is the opportunity for you to address the local trust

[0:04:47] Voice 3: committee and so if you do have an item of concern either on our agenda or it's on the agenda so

[0:04:53] Voice 3: perfect well if you you can bring it up now if you

[0:04:56] Voice 1: can speak to it

[0:04:56] Voice 3: it's about daryl and horton

[0:04:59] Voice 3: bay and then we'll discuss it at that point so yeah yeah so please feel free now yeah sure okay

[0:05:04] Voice 3: well we've been on horton bay for about 30 years and um and in the last several years we've noticed

[0:05:12] Voice 3: uh like a million boys out on the bay to the point where i swear if there was a boat on every boy i

[0:05:20] Voice 3: could walk across the bay but these boys are not being used that i can see a lot of them are not

[0:05:27] Voice 3: being used i think possibly that they were put in on spec but i could be wrong so that's just

[0:05:35] Voice 3: and I don't know it's sort of ruining it's a very pretty little bay and it's really it's really not

[0:05:44] Voice 3: not nice and then there's all the floats as well and then we've got the derelict boats uh a certain

[0:05:51] Voice 3: person everybody probably knows um has some we're right above the sunken boat which is kind of cute

[0:05:59] Voice 3: it in a way but uh so now um the same person has brought another boat in and he actually had it

[0:06:09] Voice 3: tied up to the sunken boat um but there's a problem there because as as the tide comes up and down

[0:06:16] Voice 3: the float he's tied to goes under the water and so he decided to move his boat a few days ago to

[0:06:23] Voice 3: to my neighbor's float, and they sent him a note that,

[0:06:31] Voice 3: you know, you're on our float, please, please go away.

[0:06:35] Voice 3: So today he moved his boat from the float to their buoy.

[0:06:44] Voice 3: So it hasn't sunk yet?

[0:06:47] Voice 3: Not yet, but it

[0:06:48] Voice 3: takes on water.

[0:06:49] Voice 3: Okay.

[0:06:50] Voice 3: So he apparently, Rick says that the Coast Guard has been there a few times to pump out the boat.

[0:06:58] Voice 5: And

[0:06:59] Voice 3: I personally saw him pumping water out of it two days ago.

[0:07:03] Voice 3: But I'm watching it. It hasn't sunk yet.

[0:07:08] Voice 3: So obviously, this individual is acquiring boats for nothing.

[0:07:13] Voice 3: Why not? You know, if you've got a boat you don't want, why not just give it to somebody?

[0:07:17] Voice 3: yeah so there we go

[0:07:19] Voice 3: we'll have another sunken boat

[0:07:22] Voice 3: it's just

[0:07:23] Voice 3: that

[0:07:24] Voice 1: kind of ties into

[0:07:25] Voice 1: what on the agenda to say

[0:07:27] Voice 1: I mean we

[0:07:28] Voice 3: what are the laws I know there's

[0:07:31] Voice 3: green laws and there's

[0:07:33] Voice 3: but I don't know that

[0:07:34] Voice 3: we did have some

[0:07:36] Voice 3: discussion last

[0:07:38] Voice 3: well we had

[0:07:41] Voice 3: CRD

[0:07:42] Voice 3: it's a problem throughout all of BC

[0:07:44] Voice 3: and the proliferation of marine

[0:07:46] Voice 3: Louise and

[0:07:47] Voice 1: derelict boats and live aboard disasters are huge proliferation everywhere

[0:07:52] Voice 1: and it's the jurisdiction basically lies for Louise it's federal government yeah and then

[0:07:59] Voice 1: of course coast guard but there's no there's no active organization that goes out there and either

[0:08:04] Voice 1: removes the boat except for the the dead boat society yeah so it's a real I don't know what

[0:08:11] Voice 1: the answer was at the end of that um of that zoom meeting we had in terms of moving forward to

[0:08:18] Voice 1: actually get an official like federal government immediately when these things happen yeah

[0:08:23] Voice 1: a lot of it's about people licensing their boats in the future

[0:08:30] Voice 1: which will help pay yes yeah

[0:08:33] Voice 3: because this individual already had one boat taken off

[0:08:37] Voice 3: and that cost a lot of money apparently it's important well yeah these are outrageously

[0:08:43] Voice 3: expensive to remove and also dispose of any stuff at least that last one that it was was a wooden

[0:08:50] Voice 3: boat but these next to us no i think it was old beta trust you not listen to well

[0:08:56] Trustee Maude: it's just part

[0:08:58] Trustee Maude: of what i got out of the meeting that we had um was that if it's identified as being a hazard

[0:09:05] Trustee Maude: navigation or public safety they will act anything else goes to the bottom of the pile

[0:09:11] Trustee Maude: so i would

[0:09:12] Trustee Maude: suggest anybody making complaints talk about public safety and hazard to navigate

[0:09:17] Trustee Maude: absolutely

[0:09:17] Voice 3: these kids are starting to swim out to this boat and honestly there must be like 50 lines

[0:09:24] Voice 3: wrapped around it and and he tries to float it every now and then with i don't know bags our

[0:09:31] Voice 3: Our bylaw enforcement officer has been on the problem generally.

[0:09:36] Voice 3: And we did get an update last meeting, I thought, that there is a, you know, we're aware of the scale of non-permitted uses of the mooring buoys and the floats.

[0:09:47] Voice 3: Right.

[0:09:47] Voice 1: The

[0:09:47] Voice 3: commercial uses of the floats, which are not permitted.

[0:09:51] Voice 3: And so those are being pursued by bylaw enforcement and ticketed.

[0:09:56] Voice 3: That's our responsibility.

[0:09:56] Voice 3: right um because we authorize we zone the area and so where there's floats that are not permitted

[0:10:05] Voice 3: then we can um that starts the

[0:10:09] Voice 1: enforcement process yeah i

[0:10:10] Voice 3: realize people have had have been

[0:10:12] Voice 3: given uh warning that they're to take their floats out 15 yes yeah and

[0:10:19] Voice 3: it'll be interesting

[0:10:20] Voice 3: to see what happens from there yeah um i my neighbor doesn't seem to be willing to comply at

[0:10:25] Voice 3: at all i mean yeah

[0:10:27] Voice 1: and i've heard from people i mean the unfortunate part is those some of those

[0:10:31] Voice 1: floats been there since the 80s that's all because people just got in the habit of having the floats

[0:10:36] Voice 1: there and it's like this whole problem important day for years there was no problem because it was

[0:10:42] Voice 1: a small number right

[0:10:44] Voice 3: now that it's not done

[0:10:45] Voice 1: yes so let me get to this on the right business section

[0:10:49] Voice 3: and uh yeah so i wouldn't mind if you could get me some addresses because we're gonna have a block

[0:10:54] Voice 3: party oh be a great offer you know sort of hand out yeah it might be the best way

[0:11:01] Voice 1: well because

[0:11:02] Voice 3: it's it's really

[0:11:04] Voice 1: provincial and federal and so it should go to animals and

[0:11:07] Voice 1: elizabeth okay okay that's really great that's great

[0:11:11] Voice 1: perfect um but it's it's just kind of almost

[0:11:14] Voice 1: you know trying to catch up almost too little too late yes catch up with the messes that are

[0:11:19] Voice 1: everywhere the one boat that they mentioned in the meeting i think was oak bay and it was 50

[0:11:28] Voice 3: That's what the first boat cost.

[0:11:31] Voice 3: Now there's one that costs a whole

[0:11:33] Voice 3: lot more because you're going to have to have divers.

[0:11:36] Voice 3: And there's no

[0:11:36] Voice 3: control over them.

[0:11:38] Voice 3: That's the same thing.

[0:11:39] Voice 3: Yeah.

[0:11:40] Voice 1: I know.

[0:11:40] Voice 3: Well, it'll go slowly.

[0:11:42] Voice 3: And

[0:11:42] Voice 1: going back to the zoning, in fact, Burton Bay isn't even zoned for a mooring place.

[0:11:47] Voice 1: It is zoned for you to have a dock.

[0:11:49] Voice 1: actually the owner can have a job but in fact we don't mention worry boys there

[0:11:53] Voice 1: and worry boys are the jurisdiction of the federal government and really the

[0:12:01] Voice 1: fact that different people have the control over like you see there there's

[0:12:05] Voice 1: some just sitting there not used people

[0:12:07] Voice 3: are renting them people are yeah there's

[0:12:09] Voice 3: so so it's big mess yeah okay okay good thank you

[0:12:15] Voice 3: thanks for bringing that to

[0:12:17] Voice 3: attention okay so

[0:12:20] Voice 1: we're gonna get to

[0:12:21] Voice 3: the church the senior spouse

[0:12:23] Voice 3: all right so uh we'll move to adoption of minutes uh item 6.1 got local trust committee minutes

[0:12:35] Voice 3: dated uh march 25th 2024 any changes or anything you need to mention that okay we'll take it by

[0:12:43] Voice 3: general consent that we'll adopt the minutes of march 25th 2024. and now our follow-up action list

[0:12:51] Voice 3: uh page 10. we have uh questions for staff um for updates

[0:13:06] Voice 3: we did

[0:13:10] Voice 1: not write a lot why

[0:13:11] Voice 3: did i never know

[0:13:13] Voice 3: well

[0:13:14] Voice 1: i've been updated on the on the motif where we

[0:13:17] Voice 1: had complaints about the

[0:13:18] Voice 1: the ingredient, I called it brush slashing. So I wrote to

[0:13:21] Voice 1: shoot. It's great. Yeah. But he said, really, that's going to be

[0:13:27] Voice 1: under the Memorandum of Understanding that we need to

[0:13:30] Voice 1: deal with it. They are us just sending the letter.

[0:13:38] Voice 3: I had a question about that. So should we take that off the list?

[0:13:44] Voice 3: Because you're not going to do anything that we can write. We

[0:13:48] Voice 5: we

[0:13:48] Voice 3: have multi task force meetings.

[0:13:51] Voice 3: I think that's a

[0:13:53] Voice 3: thing for staff to, to work on with multi at some point, if

[0:13:58] Voice 3: those task force meetings ever come to be but yeah, excellent.

[0:14:02] Voice 3: Sorry, what

[0:14:03] Voice 3: was the direction? There's no direct we're going to

[0:14:05] Voice 3: take item 69.2 off the list, the letter to multi with the

[0:14:13] Voice 3: understanding that you're going to stay in conversation about

[0:14:20] Voice 3: brush clearing which needs to be had as they do their memorandum of understanding

[0:14:26] Voice 3: contractors and that I believe the brush clearing happens every three years

[0:14:31] Voice 3: so there will be some time to bring that up hopefully to start happening so we can take

[0:14:38] Voice 3: that off our list right now did you work on that letter to be serious about that part um at this

[0:14:48] Voice 3: point

[0:14:49] Voice 1: I'm not writing the letter

[0:14:51] Voice 3: the

[0:14:52] Voice 1: proponents are having discussions I

[0:14:55] Voice 1: really haven't thought come back with any more ideas I've spoken orally to the

[0:15:01] Voice 1: different neighbors so I know what their concerns are and at this point there is

[0:15:04] Voice 1: a temporary permit on that property that has not it needs to be renewed I'm kind

[0:15:11] Voice 1: of waiting for the proponents to come back with a little bit more detail but

[0:15:15] Voice 1: But it turns out that one of the retired BC Territory Executives is in the process, so I'm hoping to see something.

[0:15:23] Voice 1: Something about dogs?

[0:15:24] Voice 1: Well, it's a proposal to the people that they would not serve as men in the BC Territory Squad, in the village nature, that possibly it would be needed, I think it would be a temporary experiment to do so, but that has been suggested.

[0:15:41] Voice 1: suggested, but it's kind of to me the proponent needs to come back with a lot of detail. Yeah.

[0:15:46] Voice 1: And, and neighbors have some concerns.

[0:15:49] Voice 1: Oh,

[0:15:49] Voice 3: I'm gonna blame them.

[0:15:52] Voice 1: The barking dogs.

[0:15:53] Voice 1: Yeah.

[0:15:54] Voice 3: Yeah.

[0:15:56] Voice 3: So we received a few people from. So

[0:16:10] Voice 5: that may be

[0:16:10] Voice 3: an opportunity. When that comes up

[0:16:13] Voice 3: for some further discussion if this community organization wants to

[0:16:19] Voice 3: um come to the meeting related to the renewal that's when the applicant would be

[0:16:28] Voice 3: actually bc fairies you need to speak louder and sorry lisa what are the audio issues

[0:16:37] Voice 4: um through the chair the issues are coming from either side uh with the planner and the trustee

[0:16:44] Voice 4: coming in and out as they turn their heads away from the speaker just

[0:16:48] Voice 3: got it oh all right

[0:16:53] Voice 3: so yeah great so this is regarding item 9.1 the tup is up for renewal yeah so it just because i

[0:17:03] Voice 3: mean i think that uh the bc fairies rep may be um maybe attending that meeting and so it might

[0:17:08] Voice 3: be good up to you know and

[0:17:11] Voice 1: i i would suggest that we

[0:17:13] Voice 3: get back to work it

[0:17:15] Voice 1: sort of floundered a bit

[0:17:16] Voice 1: there was a draft letter that i looked at with some made

[0:17:19] Voice 3: some suggestions and then it didn't

[0:17:20] Voice 3: go anywhere after that okay okay so the 9.1 is still in progress there might be some action on

[0:17:27] Voice 3: that soon great uh anything else to update uh yeah i just wanted to um just do a bit of a circle back

[0:17:36] Voice 3: to the wood we have had some conversation about how we could potentially do that with the housing

[0:17:42] Voice 3: projects it's related to housing in a way and

[0:17:46] Voice 3: i think that our conversation was around zoning

[0:17:48] Voice 3: and whether we want to have a look at changing the zoning so that it's not permitting full-time um

[0:17:55] Voice 3: residential use okay is that of interest yes

[0:17:59] Voice 5: okay so we can

[0:18:00] Voice 3: add that to our list on the housing

[0:18:02] Voice 3: So adding 13.2 Whittdale changes in zoning to the housing project scope potentially.

[0:18:14] Voice 3: That's great.

[0:18:20] Voice 3: Yep.

[0:18:20] Voice 3: Ongoing issue.

[0:18:22] Voice 3: And I don't think we have any updates from bylaw enforcement on enforcement activities

[0:18:27] Voice 3: there, but we are going to request, maybe this is the opportunity to request staff to

[0:18:33] Voice 3: come back with a report for next meeting.

[0:18:37] Voice 3: Do you want to do a resolution to that effect so that it gets actioned, David?

[0:18:42] Voice 3: Yeah.

[0:18:43] Trustee Maude: So, do we already have a standing resolution?

[0:18:50] Trustee Maude: We did a resolution last time. So, Brace, let's do another one.

[0:18:55] Voice 3: I'll just make sure it gets onto the-

[0:18:57] Trustee Maude: It was in Canberra last time.

[0:18:58] Voice 3: Oh, okay. Okay.

[0:19:01] Voice 3: Requests to have to follow up regarding Wooddale enforcement issues.

[0:19:07] Voice 3: So,

[0:19:07] Trustee Maude: in a motion?

[0:19:10] Voice 3: Brace is writing it down.

[0:19:11] Voice 3: i don't think it's yeah i'm going

[0:19:13] Voice 3: to do that

[0:19:16] Voice 1: i'll get it

[0:19:17] Voice 3: back for you because i can't wait

[0:19:18] Voice 1: i'm not

[0:19:18] Voice 3: here but we're going to do this whole coaching stuff now which is really interesting

[0:19:28] Voice 3: but this is more detail on it

[0:19:30] Voice 3: you don't know if you could get that i guess you can please let's just do it by resolution

[0:19:37] Voice 3: So it's very clear. So David Maude moves that staff follow up with regard to

[0:19:44] Voice 3: Wooddale enforcement issues. And I will second that because I'm doing all the talking right now.

[0:19:52] Voice 3: All those in favor? One person sure.

[0:19:54] Voice 3: Aye, that is carried. Thank you. Okay.

[0:19:58] Voice 3: Wooddale enforcement issues continue. Great. No delegations, no correspondence,

[0:20:04] Voice 3: comments no applications or referrals but should we update the community about the oceanwood

[0:20:10] Voice 3: application yes i

[0:20:11] Voice 3: think so okay well

[0:20:12] Voice 1: let me get other i mean we only know that the property has

[0:20:16] Voice 1: sold okay we assume that the application will die

[0:20:21] Voice 3: so the application that was taking up for

[0:20:23] Voice 3: the rezoning

[0:20:24] Voice 3: quite a bit of conversation for the rezoning of oceanwood is not going forward

[0:20:28] Voice 3: and the property has been sold yeah looking forward to what will come next

[0:20:33] Voice 3: with that saga it's so exciting exciting great well the two beautiful pieces of business now

[0:20:43] Voice 3: uh 11.1 our housing review project very exciting page 12. chadwick lead us away

[0:20:53] Voice 3: yeah okay so basically we're circling back to the housing project so as uh as you know

[0:21:01] Voice 3: Maine's been working on housing for the last five years and as a result Maine is out ahead

[0:21:09] Voice 3: of other

[0:21:10] Voice 3: LTCs in terms of moving forward with housing. In the first phase involved having a

[0:21:19] Voice 3: look at where Maine's at with respect to housing and out of that process a focus was

[0:21:26] Voice 3: was looking at how to provide the

[0:21:30] Voice 3: opportunity for additional small units on lots without

[0:21:35] Voice 3: increasing lot coverage. And that's where we ended up with our flexible housing regulation,

[0:21:42] Voice 3: which permits additional units within a maximum floor area. And we had a pilot area for that.

[0:21:51] Voice 3: So this is now that we are going into the next phase that allows the LTC to have a look

[0:21:57] Voice 3: at some other opportunities as well, which could also include expanding flexible housing.

[0:22:04] Voice 3: And so in our last go through, we were also before we sort of put this project on hold

[0:22:13] Voice 3: to move forward with the land use bylaw review.

[0:22:19] Voice 3: We had an opportunity to apply for funding with the CRD

[0:22:26] Voice 3: and worked very, very much hand in hand with,

[0:22:33] Voice 3: I would stress staff to put together a funding proposal

[0:22:39] Voice 3: to CMHC for their housing accelerator funding.

[0:22:42] Voice 3: And so that sort of prompted us to put together an action plan that was suitable to their

[0:22:47] Voice 3: program.

[0:22:48] Voice 3: And so there was a component of that that was focused around the subsidizing the building

[0:22:55] Voice 3: of units, which would have ran through CRD.

[0:22:58] Voice 3: And that was part of their Gulf Island Housing Strategic Plan, or something there about it.

[0:23:07] Voice 3: Southern North Island housing plan. Anyways, we were

[0:23:16] Voice 3: unsuccessful, unfortunately. But the good thing that we did gain

[0:23:21] Voice 3: is we we, the CRD has a very, it helped the CRD to kind of focus

[0:23:27] Voice 3: their ideas on what their program development would need

[0:23:29] Voice 3: to look like and what their supports for the items would be

[0:23:32] Voice 3: to look like. So like furthering the thinking that was already

[0:23:35] Voice 3: had already gone into their Southern North Island's housing strategy so that was very

[0:23:40] Voice 3: good and I mean essentially what it comes down to in terms of the role for LTCs is to

[0:23:52] Voice 3: create the opportunities for the potential of their interest you know what's in the strategic

[0:23:58] Voice 3: strategic plan. There are a number of things, including this

[0:24:01] Voice 3: potential of funding, funding development. I mean, who knows,

[0:24:07] Voice 3: it all rides on funding, and there's no funding now. But

[0:24:12] Voice 3: we're aligned. And there's an action plan. And yes, so that's

[0:24:18] Voice 3: the other thing is the action plan, I reconfigured it a little

[0:24:22] Voice 3: bit to just um not be so focused on that pathway and um and so it's a bit it's a bit different than

[0:24:33] Voice 3: than the original uh but it's speaking to very very similar things that were taught we've

[0:24:38] Voice 3: essentially talked about for the past five years community um and and it's it's it's it's kind of

[0:24:44] Voice 3: just a little bit more focused for main island sort of yeah so so what what I'm hoping for today

[0:24:54] Voice 3: is that you can get endorsement of that that endorsement of that new draft and then we've

[0:25:05] Voice 3: got a project charter that speaks to the draft oh and also add that the housing plan also includes

[0:25:11] Voice 3: an implementation table which is kind of a way to organize the work that we're doing and provide some

[0:25:23] Voice 3: framework so we can just sort of move through and hopefully it makes it clear and easy for

[0:25:27] Voice 3: you to understand and we can pop new things into that list of things we can take things away

[0:25:33] Voice 3: like for example i'm going to add a good deal to the list of implementation actions yeah so

[0:25:40] Voice 3: So I think I'll just leave it at that in terms of introducing the plan, right, and see what questions you have.

[0:25:49] Voice 3: Steve-Anne?

[0:25:51] Trustee Maude: With the Housing Accelerator Fund, is there a debrief on that?

[0:25:56] Trustee Maude: Like when you're not funded, do they say this is what losses you didn't take, or do they give any indication next time around where we can do better?

[0:26:07] Voice 3: Yeah, so we did have a debrief.

[0:26:08] Voice 3: so the challenge with working with a large bureaucracy is they've got the people who are

[0:26:13] Voice 3: like your regional folks who are managing things on that level telling people what the program's

[0:26:19] Voice 3: about all that sort of thing then you've got your adjudicators that are nationally focused and

[0:26:24] Voice 3: there's there's limited there's limited understanding of what's going on in the

[0:26:31] Voice 3: adjudication phase and what and what the information that's shared with the regional

[0:26:37] Voice 3: people is limited

[0:26:38] Voice 1: so we don't get

[0:26:39] Voice 3: that we don't get the nitty-gritty details like we don't get

[0:26:41] Voice 3: that but you only got a five out of ten on this and this and this and this so what we got is

[0:26:49] Voice 3: we funded a number of programs along the posts or a lot of proposal along the posts and uh yours

[0:26:55] Voice 3: didn't you know didn't rise to the surface so that's the extent to which so some examples of

[0:27:01] Voice 3: projects that did get funded they're over 20 units and they

[0:27:04] Voice 3: have a mix of use so i remember

[0:27:06] Voice 3: Well,

[0:27:07] Voice 5: this is not

[0:27:07] Voice 3: housing funding, right?

[0:27:08] Voice 3: So this is CMHC funding.

[0:27:11] Voice 3: So the CMHC funding, the other key critical, I think, thing here is that it's housing accelerator funding.

[0:27:20] Voice 3: So my assumption, right, based on looking at the projects that they did fund, is that they're, again, looking for the biggest bang for the buck, right?

[0:27:30] Voice 3: and so where can we put our money where we're going to get the most houses and

[0:27:36] Voice 3: housing in the shortest amount of time. So a program to subsidize private landowners to

[0:27:44] Voice 3: build housing is not necessarily going to rise as high as a program that the local government

[0:27:51] Voice 3: is going to be responsible for the building of that housing. So it's those kinds of things

[0:27:55] Voice 3: i think that challenge the young stress generally yeah um in this area i mean

[0:28:00] Voice 3: again that's all

[0:28:01] Voice 3: assumptions that's just based on okay thanks for that and that could change in the future as

[0:28:08] Voice 3: maybe

[0:28:09] Voice 1: the world catches up with the lack of privacy that's the problem that we have right

[0:28:13] Voice 1: now but at least we're

[0:28:14] Voice 3: getting our well our ducks in a row so if that happens in the future

[0:28:18] Voice 3: sure that we'll be ready yeah and um i think um there's there's there are a number of like

[0:28:25] Voice 3: rural communities across canada who have some of the challenges so it's you know maybe they're

[0:28:34] Voice 3: maybe they'll start to recognize and maybe there'll be some specific funding i mean this

[0:28:39] Voice 3: one didn't have a stream for a little but again i think it's focused on this growing

[0:28:44] Voice 3: those growing communities even

[0:28:46] Voice 1: though this is

[0:28:46] Voice 3: a growing community but and i

[0:28:48] Voice 3: i honestly like

[0:28:49] Voice 3: Like, when you look at the numbers, it really looks like, you know, when I first had the

[0:28:53] Voice 3: conversation, they said, wow, like, you know, you look like you're deserving of some funding

[0:28:59] Voice 3: to get going, but, yeah.

[0:29:01] Voice 3: Okay.

[0:29:02] Trustee Maude: So, would Shared Eagle and Echo property, if they advanced housing on that, would that

[0:29:10] Trustee Maude: be sort of the type of project that might be more kindly seen for applications?

[0:29:16] Trustee Maude: patients

[0:29:18] Voice 3: in terms of funding. So again, my, my sense of things

[0:29:26] Voice 3: right now is that, again, it's sort of a biggest bang for the

[0:29:31] Voice 3: buck scenario. So how developing housing on the island is more

[0:29:35] Voice 3: expensive to begin with, because it also requires all of the

[0:29:39] Voice 3: infrastructure, the wells, so that adds additional costs, plus

[0:29:43] Voice 3: the bringing of the materials over and all that sort of thing.

[0:29:45] Voice 3: So the government, senior government is more likely, well, I mean, they've been demonstrating that their interest is in the housing.

[0:30:00] Voice 3: going to be, you're gonna get more units for less money,

[0:30:03] Voice 3: getting closer to many needs. Right. So it's, it's sort of a

[0:30:07] Voice 3: holistic approach in that respect. So it's a different

[0:30:11] Voice 3: case. I think, again, I mean, I think that there are a number of

[0:30:15] Voice 3: rural areas that are in a similar circumstance, and it'll

[0:30:20] Voice 3: take some interest and will on the part of senior government to

[0:30:26] Voice 3: to recognize that. And I also heard we did that walkabout at

[0:30:31] Voice 1: the Glen Encode property and what I heard from Steve was

[0:30:34] Voice 1: that really CRD is looking for those 20 plus units to they're

[0:30:39] Voice 1: looking

[0:30:39] Voice 3: at the larger developments for any type of

[0:30:42] Voice 3: CRD funding.

[0:30:44] Voice 3: Yeah, so I think at this point, we you know, we can get into

[0:30:48] Voice 3: this as well. Like one of the things I think for the islands

[0:30:52] Voice 3: is just to try and get if we can try and get the donated land and there was some conversation

[0:30:58] Voice 3: when we brought habitat over here people were like oh like i've got a piece of land or if

[0:31:02] Voice 3: i could if i could uh you know i've had residents say if i could just carve off this one piece

[0:31:08] Voice 3: i'd be happy to give it over to habitat for humanity or remember so um that's why what

[0:31:14] Voice 3: i'm one of my recommendations is that um it's that you organize a community information

[0:31:20] Voice 3: meeting to introduce the plan in the overall direction but really focus on on this um on the

[0:31:29] Voice 3: piece around increasing the opportunities for not for like donations not-for

[0:31:33] Voice 3: -profit organizations

[0:31:35] Voice 3: um and and then part of that conversation i think would be um looking at at creating a land trust

[0:31:44] Voice 3: um on the island because like right now we've got how you know we potentially have a humanity that

[0:31:49] Voice 3: may want to come in and um and move on some properties if they are

[0:31:55] Voice 3: like we have to explore

[0:31:56] Voice 3: what the potential is to do that

[0:31:58] Voice 5: and so i

[0:31:59] Voice 3: think that that requires like a full community

[0:32:01] Voice 3: conversation has there would that we would

[0:32:06] Voice 3: we'll we'll we'll have a conversation and come back to

[0:32:10] Voice 3: another town okay but yeah this is our chance to ask questions okay yeah yeah because we can

[0:32:14] Voice 3: you know talk constantly forever yeah

[0:32:16] Voice 1: yeah of course

[0:32:17] Voice 3: i do have a question about the action

[0:32:20] Voice 3: plan you suggested in the report that it should be shared um what if we agree on it and the goals

[0:32:28] Voice 3: and actions um at what point would we get to share sort of right at the beginning so that

[0:32:32] Voice 3: groups can partner in potentially some of the or start thinking about some of the actions that

[0:32:41] Voice 3: we've identified it yeah you mean in terms of how we might organize a community meeting

[0:32:47] Voice 3: yeah the way that

[0:32:48] Voice 3: i see it is we we would um introduce the action plan in all of the different

[0:32:54] Voice 3: areas um that are sort of mentioned and some of them are straightforward zoning and um i mean

[0:33:00] Voice 3: areas where where you might want to have some more um community input we can organize around those

[0:33:06] Voice 3: um if there are things that are sort of jumping up to you now could be you know we do have time

[0:33:11] Voice 3: today so i saw a poster just outside the bistro and i was trying to look up the name of it but

[0:33:17] Voice 3: it's this new collaborative group that's about the collective it's a collective and is it about

[0:33:24] Voice 3: aging age appropriate so they're great now i think they just just organized me because maybe

[0:33:31] Voice 3: it's a group of people coming together trying to find

[0:33:35] Voice 1: bring all the different services on the

[0:33:37] Voice 1: island somewhat into one umbrella so everybody knows so they're not duplicating each other's

[0:33:42] Voice 1: services so but

[0:33:44] Voice 3: they cover everything but they've done some research i think and survey i think

[0:33:49] Voice 3: there's a survey open right now and so there might be an opportunity to develop partnerships they've

[0:33:55] Voice 3: got 20 groups from main island in that one um so i don't know if now is the time to share out this

[0:34:02] Voice 3: this plan but I just think anywhere that it's

[0:34:05] Voice 3: already public right so this is really about

[0:34:08] Voice 3: communications right and how we want to uh you know how you want to look forward with

[0:34:12] Voice 3: with getting people interested in coming to have this conversation very much because

[0:34:18] Voice 1: we didn't get

[0:34:18] Voice 1: a whole lot of community input into class housing right so this and this is laying out the groundwork

[0:34:27] Voice 1: for like we're just talking about knowing whatever the one tradition posting people actually single

[0:34:32] Voice 1: individuals being able to provide housing yeah by all these extra options for because that's where

[0:34:39] Voice 1: you're going to get house you're going to get housing by

[0:34:41] Voice 1: secondary suites

[0:34:43] Voice 3: tiny home in the

[0:34:44] Voice 3: backyard so just refer to for those watching the the mass is watching page 19 is this action

[0:34:52] Voice 3: implementation table and I'll note that item 3.3 increased alternative housing

[0:34:59] Voice 3: options this probably has this strongest raft of potential solutions for

[0:35:06] Voice 3: alternatives that don't really exist so developing TAP guidelines for 20 homes

[0:35:10] Voice 3: permit rezoning for modular home villages and then yeah

[0:35:15] Voice 3: so we've thought through a lot of

[0:35:17] Voice 3: this is there

[0:35:18] Voice 3: anything trustees feel needs to be added or and then how are we prioritizing it is it

[0:35:25] Voice 3: just kind of go through the list one to four tackle each day

[0:35:31] Voice 3: makes sense yeah at this point

[0:35:35] Voice 3: so endorsing the active plan is endorsing the list here so there are things that are looking like

[0:35:40] Voice 3: we don't want them to be further and also i would just add that at any type of point

[0:35:44] Voice 3: find this to be k right so this just gives uh staff much numerous for now to look at the things

[0:35:50] Voice 3: that we're going to look at and also the things you want to put out like start to promote to the

[0:35:55] Voice 3: public so if we're going to have a community information meeting these are the things that

[0:36:00] Voice 3: you're okay with um with us having some conversation about yep um and then if there's anything else to

[0:36:05] Voice 3: add to the list and then i think um yeah from there um really it would be good to get an

[0:36:12] Voice 3: understanding of what kind of conversation you'd like to have with the with the community um if

[0:36:17] Voice 3: there are some specific areas that you'd like to have some conversation around or if you'd like

[0:36:22] Voice 3: the community to identify those areas um again i

[0:36:25] Voice 3: think judging from the the conversation we've

[0:36:28] Voice 3: had in the past and the fact that we began with this conversation habitat my my instinct is that

[0:36:35] Voice 3: you know i i'm understanding that that that is maybe a good focus for conversation also i think

[0:36:41] Voice 3: that's a fairly the conversation around um facilitating um the donation of land um like i

[0:36:50] Voice 3: i feel like it would be important that like there's a few different components there there

[0:36:55] Voice 3: is like who's in each thing donating right and then we can kind of figure out how we facilitate

[0:37:00] Voice 3: that through the like regulation policy and then once it's donated where the time that's a really

[0:37:08] Voice 3: a big piece of it yeah okay going back and the minute taker needs to talk more than going back

[0:37:15] Voice 3: to the concept

[0:37:16] Voice 1: of getting donated land and the subdivision hassle so what about be getting

[0:37:24] Voice 1: instead of like a subdivided piece of land getting long-term leases it could be investigate whether

[0:37:30] Voice 1: that is an option because we know that the subdivision process is very onerous and extremely

[0:37:36] Voice 1: extremely expensive and doesn't necessarily suit our needs, but if we could explore whether

[0:37:42] Voice 1: that would be.

[0:37:42] Trustee Maude: I

[0:37:42] Voice 1: think for some people would be more comfortable entering into these arrangements

[0:37:48] Voice 3: and it could

[0:37:50] Voice 3: be as much as they need to.

[0:37:52] Voice 3: Yeah, I think that's really worth it and that's something that Habitat brought up as well.

[0:37:58] Voice 3: But if you partner this with your TUP for a movable small home or structure or whatever,

[0:38:05] Voice 3: then you've got landowners who are like okay i've got that back two acres that i'm not going to

[0:38:11] Voice 3: build a house on but you partner with somebody who's willing to build it bring a house there

[0:38:16] Voice 3: then that really matches and maybe

[0:38:19] Voice 3: there's formats besides the just the the long-term

[0:38:22] Voice 1: these other formats for land sharing that probably if we could include like the more

[0:38:27] Voice 1: information about how you form co-ops and strata yeah

[0:38:30] Voice 3: that mechanism

[0:38:31] Voice 1: because that's

[0:38:32] Voice 3: there's there's an organization called co-obc co-housing bc and they literally their specialty

[0:38:39] Voice 3: is writing agreements to um sell like shares of a property so that there's a co-ownership

[0:38:47] Voice 3: on title to different degrees and you could do like a one-third or two-thirds kind of thing to

[0:38:53] Voice 3: have that information bring in coho bc and they've got online webinars lots of people are doing

[0:39:00] Voice 3: there's one on gabriel island that sold the main house and maintained the secondary dwelling he

[0:39:07] Voice 3: maintained the share of the secondary dwelling um their partnership broke off and so there's

[0:39:11] Voice 3: a family living in the main house and the owner who chose to stay on gabriel still has the secondary

[0:39:17] Voice 3: dwelling so they're both on title okay so negotiating those agreements totally works

[0:39:24] Voice 3: and that's what lots of communities are looking into because

[0:39:27] Trustee Maude: certainly denver has got a really

[0:39:29] Trustee Maude: good example there oh

[0:39:30] Voice 3: yeah yeah

[0:39:31] Trustee Maude: laura for shaking i

[0:39:33] Voice 3: think it's still really cold

[0:39:38] Voice 3: that's great i mean you've got a number of books yeah

[0:39:43] Voice 3: but um i mean this is something we can

[0:39:45] Voice 3: explore um also is maybe maybe bringing a speaker like that to an event yeah totally you can have

[0:39:52] Voice 3: like a fair of a few different tables you know in fact habitat for humanity if they come up

[0:39:58] Voice 3: maybe they'll have like

[0:39:59] Voice 3: pender islanders too because they're entering into pender islander

[0:40:03] Voice 1: other

[0:40:03] Voice 3: islanders to come yeah this

[0:40:05] Voice 3: is but i like it i think it's important that our goal is to get

[0:40:08] Voice 3: land and we don't have money to get land so but here's how you can be part of freeing up land

[0:40:16] Voice 3: be part of the housing solution okay there you go that's part of the housing solution that's right

[0:40:22] Voice 3: Ah, yeah. So, so, so what I'm hearing is, yes, let's, let's have weaving, yes, of some

[0:40:31] Voice 3: kind. Um, so I'm still, we still need to sort of define the nature of that. And it sounds

[0:40:36] Voice 3: like, I think there's a few different elements. There is the, I feel like maybe it is, there's

[0:40:44] Voice 3: maybe two things here. It's, it's, it's, you know, you're not finding out who wants to

[0:40:50] Voice 3: donate, like trying to get that conversation happening, right?

[0:40:55] Voice 3: And then there is, what are the, like, besides subdivisions, what are the other options?

[0:41:03] Voice 3: And finding some information that can share whether it's a speaker or whatever, what happens.

[0:41:09] Voice 3: So can I suggest, move away from the word donate land, because that has a very specific thought.

[0:41:19] Voice 3: Either donate to the Nature Conservancy or subdivide or whatever, but sharing land.

[0:41:25] Voice 3: So opportunities to share land and contribute to solving the housing domain.

[0:41:33] Voice 3: I wouldn't use the word solving.

[0:41:34] Voice 3: Well, it's a solution.

[0:41:37] Voice 3: Looking at options, too.

[0:41:40] Voice 3: So land sharing is definitely the term that I think will grab more people's attention and go, oh, yeah, I can share land.

[0:41:48] Voice 3: I'm going to donate necessarily but the land trust might be a further vehicle if somebody comes

[0:41:53] Voice 3: forward yeah well I mean I think so on main island there are already opportunities for this donation

[0:42:04] Voice 3: of land scenario so I mean I think it's a different thing right where the ownership

[0:42:11] Voice 3: ownership, like smaller lot ownership by a not-for-profit is not something that is something

[0:42:19] Voice 3: that you consider, or like, or even a, I mean, in the case of PowerTap for Humanities, actually,

[0:42:26] Voice 3: it actually is owned by the people, but the whole system is there to ensure that it's

[0:42:33] Voice 3: affordable over time, so that's, that is something that's not, that hasn't been done, right?

[0:42:39] Voice 3: Yeah, so I think we need to look at both.

[0:42:41] Voice 3: right i would also add there might be another interesting aspect i'm just going to throw it

[0:42:49] Voice 3: out there but intergenerational real estate considerations and family planning so as main

[0:42:58] Voice 3: community is looking to the future of the next generation you know the traditional model is well

[0:43:03] Voice 3: i just have to leave my house to my three kids and then they're gonna have to sell it and

[0:43:07] Voice 3: a lot of the assets right but if you can develop a plan of co-ownership early so that kids can get

[0:43:16] Voice 3: into a house so thinking a generation forward um might be a way of framing it as it's a different

[0:43:25] Voice 3: form of ownership and

[0:43:28] Voice 1: using their overall

[0:43:29] Voice 3: concept

[0:43:29] Voice 1: but because don't forget the majority of our

[0:43:32] Voice 1: property owners and i think i'm correct are people who their families are living okay so but i think

[0:43:39] Voice 1: the idea of introducing that that property can be maintained

[0:43:44] Voice 3: as other generations may not be related

[0:43:49] Voice 3: necessarily to the original property right and

[0:43:53] Voice 1: also properties homes themselves can be shared

[0:43:59] Voice 1: by multiple and actually are a limit where you'll have four siblings that have the summer

[0:44:04] Voice 5: so just

[0:44:06] Voice 1: that will open up that whole conversation but there are other ways of leadership and home

[0:44:11] Voice 1: management and sharing of the land subdividing the land is just absolutely the worst thing

[0:44:17] Voice 1: but

[0:44:18] Trustee Maude: i would suggest probably like often i can think of probably a dozen properties

[0:44:27] Trustee Maude: properties would be interested in the sharing part I think if we developed a targeted letter

[0:44:35] Trustee Maude: that was directly addressed to those landowners just see if they want to come to the table to

[0:44:40] Trustee Maude: discuss I think

[0:44:42] Voice 3: if we had sort of a fair or a forum where a collaborative home ownership table

[0:44:47] Voice 3: here and you know but

[0:44:50] Trustee Maude: the difficulties like the most problems I think of the people don't even

[0:44:52] Trustee Maude: live here

[0:44:53] Voice 3: oh okay like

[0:44:54] Trustee Maude: these these are like large vacant pieces of property right that are distinct

[0:44:58] Trustee Maude: hollow and so you know to get in the door i think it would take a direct

[0:45:03] Voice 3: gotcha oh

[0:45:04] Trustee Maude: it was it was

[0:45:05] Trustee Maude: basically like layout this is a potential would you be interested in learning some more right

[0:45:15] Voice 1: to me you have your public meeting you get all this information out there and then the next

[0:45:20] Voice 1: step would be i don't think we could target certain people i think it would have to be a

[0:45:24] Voice 1: letter that went up to the entire community saying you know do you know that you have options yeah

[0:45:30] Voice 1: for your property yeah this land has been in your family i mean people are sitting on summer homes

[0:45:35] Voice 1: that they've had for 60 years right where literally they've never haven't been here in 30

[0:45:40] Voice 1: years there's a few of those that kind of you know would you like would you like more information on

[0:45:45] Voice 1: kind of facilitated going to

[0:45:48] Voice 1: the land a land trust yeah so more information

[0:45:50] Voice 3: about that so in 5.2 the

[0:45:53] Voice 3: developed partnerships to build housing can we add on um opportunities to explore collaborative

[0:45:59] Voice 3: and that's um that's not a government thing but that's you know there's other

[0:46:05] Voice 3: agencies that bring that education and then we can start promoting a potential program

[0:46:11] Voice 3: around not to target people i don't like that word but invite invite them to use their real

[0:46:20] Voice 3: estate assets to build community and support sorry i'm just gung-ho about coho bc because uh it

[0:46:25] Voice 3: worked in my community and and they're they're just they're all over bc it's getting bigger and

[0:46:30] Voice 3: bigger because more people are exploring this yeah so um yeah i guess so what we could we could

[0:46:38] Voice 3: introduce all of the different functions yeah and

[0:46:42] Voice 3: explore that for yeah for sharing land

[0:46:48] Voice 3: um are you thinking in the summer time or winter i think i'm gonna

[0:46:53] Voice 1: get to fall now

[0:46:54] Voice 1: because it's

[0:46:55] Voice 3: not gonna happen somewhere i can tell you that yeah summer is i think we're looking at

[0:46:59] Voice 3: um so probably looking at winter to be honest like probably october if you look at how you know

[0:47:07] Voice 3: And then, if we do want to get speakers in, for example, it'll take a bit of time, like

[0:47:13] Voice 3: I mean a lot of, I don't know details on this, this kind of stuff so it would take a lot

[0:47:17] Voice 3: of time to get myself up to speed with what the options are.

[0:47:23] Voice 3: So yeah, I think October would be the earliest.

[0:47:25] Voice 3: Great.

[0:47:26] Voice 3: And I think if we're going to have speakers, the co-palisade group, yes,

[0:47:29] Voice 1: and then the habitat

[0:47:30] Voice 1: group.

[0:47:31] Voice 1: Yes.

[0:47:31] Voice 1: I think if they could do a short presentation.

[0:47:33] Voice 1: Yeah, I

[0:47:34] Voice 1: assume that would be the end of it.

[0:47:36] Voice 1: So I think that's our actual biggest hope, I guess,

[0:47:40] Voice 3: if you can actually see structures

[0:47:42] Voice 3: built.

[0:47:44] Voice 3: Would it be possible to get someone from BC Housing, like see how things are going?

[0:47:49] Voice 1: Yeah,

[0:47:49] Voice 3: we can do that.

[0:47:50] Voice 3: But

[0:47:51] Voice 1: that would be amazing

[0:47:52] Voice 3: because also if we plan to bring over, like, let's say bring

[0:47:56] Voice 3: over pendants and bring over invite through the other sort of islands, this could be part

[0:48:02] Voice 3: of the...

[0:48:03] Voice 3: We could make it into a bigger...

[0:48:04] Voice 3: a bigger forum. And

[0:48:05] Voice 3: that'll be the question. I mean, because I think, yeah, yeah, I mean,

[0:48:10] Voice 3: there's a possibility that I could think that. Because we could live stream it, and then people

[0:48:15] Voice 3: can attend from three or four Southern Gulf Islands, and we all share the same information,

[0:48:20] Voice 3: because it's all part of the CRDs, the complementary to the CRDs. Yeah,

[0:48:24] Voice 5: I was thinking

[0:48:25] Voice 3: maybe we could

[0:48:25] Voice 3: even get the CRD to help. Let's do that. Let's think forum, let's think bigger and incorporating

[0:48:34] Voice 3: reading more so they're both violence we're going to go to bed after the

[0:48:38] Voice 3: cooking speakers and stuff yeah great are you going to pick a date and

[0:48:47] Voice 3: october yeah yeah i would say yeah maybe we can we can say october and shoot for that if you're

[0:48:53] Voice 3: not here you can zoom in yeah yeah you want to put october okay the resolution as a as a target

[0:49:06] Voice 3: We still need to conduct the needs assessment, and that's, yeah, so we're still, yeah, the

[0:49:12] Voice 3: needs assessment.

[0:49:12] Voice 3: So on the needs assessment, every local government in the province is waiting on the province

[0:49:18] Voice 3: for their guidelines relating to needs assessments, because they'd like

[0:49:24] Voice 3: us to, they want us to

[0:49:25] Voice 3: do updated needs assessments based on their guidelines, but we haven't got their guidelines

[0:49:28] Voice 3: gotcha so that's that might be opposed to that up there

[0:49:33] Voice 5: um

[0:49:34] Voice 3: yeah when you when you have a look

[0:49:36] Voice 3: through the system of of acting from the implementation table are there are there

[0:49:42] Voice 3: anything is there anything there that um and you've seen you've seen these before is there

[0:49:47] Voice 3: anything that you have some issues with have any questions about anything anything that you want to

[0:49:53] Voice 3: add and like i say i mean we can continue to have this conversation as we move through the project

[0:49:57] Voice 3: But with these being on the list, staff can start to draft bylaws on some of the more straightforward ones. There's things that are going to require a little bit of more analysis, like if you want to expand flex housing, for example.

[0:50:15] Voice 3: We've got a suitable line analysis now, we've got the methodology, so there's an opportunity to have a look at other areas that may be suitable for expansion of flex housing.

[0:50:26] Voice 3: housing okay um i think there's a conversation to be had potentially with the um the water service

[0:50:34] Voice 3: areas about uh secondary suites i mean you can also just go ahead and go ahead and allow it too

[0:50:42] Voice 3: right um so so at this point yeah just looking for feedback if you have any um um anything that

[0:50:52] Voice 3: you're saying if you have questions or you want to add anything if anything away at this point

[0:50:57] Voice 3: the goal two uh how would we follow up to identify first nations interests with respect to housing

[0:51:04] Voice 3: options yeah so i i was in a um so we've got our our um a consultant sue hallett um who's called

[0:51:16] Voice 3: for the the cod who um was their sort of indigenous liaison person helped to develop their

[0:51:23] Voice 3: conversation engagement plan so she's uh she's took on a contract for us um and she

[0:51:31] Voice 3: has some money elicited to her to help salt spring um and i've had a conversation with her about how

[0:51:37] Voice 3: we actually need to kind of we're going to start to engage in these conversations we need to kind

[0:51:41] Voice 3: together. So I'm working on that. So I think, I think we need to, because Henderson will be

[0:51:47] Voice 3: starting in on their housing projects too. So I think that all has to be a combined conversation

[0:51:54] Voice 3: because we, you know, we haven't really had these conversations with the nations yet.

[0:51:59] Voice 3: The first step though, for, for, for Maine Island is just to follow up on the letter that we sent

[0:52:03] Voice 3: last fall, just to say, we're going to do this project and see if there's, there's some

[0:52:09] Voice 3: directed interest but i think we're also going to be working towards um um providing a little

[0:52:16] Voice 3: more context as we move towards developing okay and i think for specifically for our sarla for

[0:52:24] Voice 3: the sarla they have

[0:52:25] Voice 3: a lot but it's the services that come there

[0:52:29] Voice 3: so there's no water so right

[0:52:30] Voice 3: there's a large parcel so if we

[0:52:33] Voice 1: were fortunate enough to get any kind of land that was associated

[0:52:39] Voice 1: Obviously, to me, part of it would be a plan would be to be sharing the

[0:52:45] Voice 3: water system, hopefully

[0:52:46] Voice 3: sewage treatment system, which would then give them the infrastructure to then have.

[0:52:52] Voice 3: Well, and that's an interesting partnership piece.

[0:52:55] Voice 3: There's a lot of

[0:52:56] Voice 3: conversations to be had, I think, around the various opportunities,

[0:53:01] Voice 3: right?

[0:53:01] Voice 5: yeah

[0:53:02] Voice 3: it's when there was a piece of land that potential right near the near the site so

[0:53:10] Voice 3: and if i mean i think there's a lot of opportunity to have the conversations around the furniture so

[0:53:16] Voice 3: yeah i mean if habitat was interested in property owners were wanting to um were open to providing

[0:53:24] Voice 3: habitat with the land that backs onto the startlet yeah maybe

[0:53:27] Voice 3: there's an opportunity to get some

[0:53:29] Voice 3: funding for a larger yeah larger infrastructure rights larger um septic system and and you know

[0:53:37] Voice 3: a community well uh a community water system i mean there's lots of possibilities but it all

[0:53:44] Voice 3: comes down to funding right ultimately right it also makes sense to me that that

[0:53:49] Voice 1: the requirement

[0:53:50] Voice 1: requirement would be to open up that door for some use of their own property to facilitate.

[0:53:59] Voice 3: Yeah, and I think that,

[0:54:00] Voice 1: I mean, that in particular could be

[0:54:01] Voice 3: a real opportunity for some

[0:54:03] Voice 3: senior government funding, right? Yes.

[0:54:05] Voice 3: To satisfy both interests. But again, it's

[0:54:09] Voice 3: every ways to be seen. But there is a big, I mean, there's a big focus on first nations

[0:54:14] Voice 3: and water. I'd have to have a look at what other opportunities there are. And there's

[0:54:20] Voice 3: a lot of support for these like there have been in the past for projects or um cooperative projects

[0:54:27] Voice 3: between patients and uh and the local government so um it would be definitely worth coming

[0:54:33] Voice 3: the water yeah that is a key piece is there a part to play for the fresh water

[0:54:44] Voice 3: sustainability potential project that we could have going is the water balance project that's

[0:54:52] Voice 3: what williams identified as sort of the shining star is this water balance project so i guess

[0:54:59] Voice 3: just to keep in mind in the back of our heads as we go how does this tie into our overall

[0:55:04] Voice 3: freshwater strategy that um it's not clear yet but i'm hoping that we're going to get an

[0:55:10] Voice 3: implementation plan but that'll include as this community and south pender or north panther works

[0:55:17] Voice 3: on posing that there'll be a corollary yeah well like for example the expansion of flex housing

[0:55:23] Voice 3: if we were to have water balance it's easier to determine those areas that are more suitable for

[0:55:28] Voice 3: that expansion right

[0:55:29] Voice 3: yeah we've got we've already got that regulation in place in a pilot area

[0:55:34] Voice 3: And so as soon as we have that further data, then there's an opportunity to expand.

[0:55:43] Voice 3: Great. Well, is there any further questions or are we pretty satisfied with adding to Nurse's workload?

[0:55:52] Voice 3: No,

[0:55:53] Trustee Maude: I'm very happy with this. I would say just to finish up on the water conversation,

[0:55:58] Trustee Maude: I think the goal is any future stop does not involve groundwater.

[0:56:03] Trustee Maude: So it doesn't make the water balance that move or anything, but it's saying, you know, the focus should not be on using groundwater.

[0:56:13] Trustee Maude: It really, I think we have to stop. Is everything we do, all regulations, everything we do, is all about groundwater?

[0:56:25] Trustee Maude: water the tricky

[0:56:26] Voice 3: thing is is you cannot rely on rainwater solely and i'll tell you on gabriel

[0:56:33] Voice 3: which is much more densely populated people moving to cisterns only with the drier climate

[0:56:43] Voice 3: are finding they're running out of water in july and now we've got trucking issues because the

[0:56:49] Voice 3: water trucks coming off gabriel are now impacting and now we're adding to climate change so there's

[0:56:55] Voice 3: no silver bullet where water's concerned i think we have to have some kind of groundwater source

[0:57:00] Voice 3: if you're going to increase density but absolutely there should be fresh water or aquifers that are

[0:57:08] Voice 3: the primary but you've got to have a backup yeah and i think that's that's where we're like

[0:57:12] Voice 3: because i mean

[0:57:17] Trustee Maude: we have a fairly substantial number of houses that are just playing one

[0:57:20] Trustee Maude: own right and

[0:57:22] Trustee Maude: i've never heard of any of them that's great

[0:57:24] Voice 3: that's great i

[0:57:25] Trustee Maude: think one of us

[0:57:26] Trustee Maude: about the design and having enough capacity you have to you

[0:57:30] Trustee Maude: have to be prepared for the ice

[0:57:31] Trustee Maude: screens now having having a 500 gallon tank inside your houses but there are places like

[0:57:37] Trustee Maude: you have

[0:57:41] Voice 3: to have a lot and you also yeah so anyway just put that out there but you did you have a

[0:57:50] Voice 3: Yeah, I was just gonna say like, having coho is a very good example of a community that

[0:57:58] Voice 3: is entirely rainwater catchment, and they've got a large community catchment as well as

[0:58:07] Voice 3: each house having their individual catchment, they did run dry, I think the last summer

[0:58:14] Voice 3: or the one before and they did have the cooking um they also did have something in groundwater and

[0:58:22] Voice 3: um and that i think is important when we think about um the fact that we're getting drier and

[0:58:29] Voice 3: drier um summers and you know fire can wipe out the whole island so the consideration isn't just

[0:58:39] Voice 3: just for consumption but it's also uh um emergency management yeah as

[0:58:46] Voice 3: well yeah that's a good point

[0:58:48] Voice 3: I also think it's important that we we're talking about densification we're not talking 50 new

[0:58:54] Voice 3: houses in one area I really think at some

[0:58:56] Voice 1: point we have to get a cap it's like we have this cap

[0:58:58] Voice 1: of 10 on the amenities at least we have to think in terms of four

[0:59:02] Voice 3: here or there we have to so

[0:59:05] Voice 3: So language in here somewhere should be, it also should be diversified around the island.

[0:59:10] Voice 3: It should not only focus on the same location, but that would help in terms of bringing more water management.

[0:59:17] Voice 1: I do think people, I think I told you before, my father used to live in Los Angeles,

[0:59:22] Voice 1: whatever they had to ration their water, he was able to use 50% of what he was allowed.

[0:59:28] Voice 3: He had

[0:59:29] Voice 1: an acre, they had horses and chickens.

[0:59:31] Voice 1: Yeah, so I mean water, water education, water games, I mean there's a lot of things you can do that, but definitely everybody's gonna have it here, like even if you already have a tank and they have a dam, until we have that last rain, so that small water is always going to be involved.

[0:59:48] Trustee Maude: We're very fortunate to have a lot of artesian wells and a lot of springs.

[0:59:54] Voice 3: Yeah, well, having that water balance would be amazing.

[1:00:00] Voice 3: where the water is being used for agriculture, other things

[1:00:03] Voice 3: and where the water can be drawn for emergency. That's a really

[1:00:08] Voice 3: critical thing to start thinking collectively.

[1:00:11] Voice 3: But good point. I like everything in here is are we

[1:00:15] Voice 3: ready to move the resolutions, more discussion?

[1:00:19] Voice 3: I think we're ready for the motion. So we cover all the sort

[1:00:21] Voice 3: of add ons that we have covered. Yeah, I think that I think the

[1:00:25] Voice 3: only add on that you have that you want to add a date to the

[1:00:30] Voice 3: just a community information meeting and then and you've given me some good content to work with

[1:00:36] Voice 3: and what I'll do is I'll what I'll do is I'll start to sort of draft a bit of a plan for that

[1:00:41] Voice 3: and then we can have some back and forth um to see if sort of okay I'll start the first one that

[1:00:48] Voice 3: the main island

[1:00:48] Voice 1: local trust committee endorsed the project charter for the main island council

[1:00:53] Voice 1: some options project phase two as presented at the may 27th 2024 main island local trust committee

[1:01:00] Voice 1: regular meeting second

[1:01:02] Voice 3: second by just a month any further discussion all those in favor say hi

[1:01:09] Voice 3: that's carried i move

[1:01:10] Voice 1: that the main island local trust committee endorsed the main island housing

[1:01:14] Voice 1: action plan as presented at the may 27th 2024 main island local trust committee regular

[1:01:22] Voice 3: get it second second by trustee mom any further discussion all this in favor and that's carried

[1:01:29] Voice 3: and so i move that the main island local trust committee request staff organize a community

[1:01:34] Voice 1: information meeting in the fall we need about that in the fall um to introduce the housing action

[1:01:42] Voice 1: plan and to have focused discussion related to increasing

[1:01:45] Voice 3: opportunities for the development of

[1:01:48] Voice 3: not for profit housing.

[1:01:49] Voice 3: Excellent.

[1:01:52] Voice 3: Seconded by Trustee Mudd.

[1:01:54] Voice 3: And, end of discussion.

[1:01:56] Voice 3: All those in favour?

[1:01:58] Voice 3: That is carried.

[1:02:00] Voice 3: It's a lot, it covered a lot of really

[1:02:02] Voice 3: really

[1:02:02] Voice 1: good material in here.

[1:02:03] Voice 1: Thank you, yeah. Lots of it.

[1:02:05] Voice 1: So you can tuck the Windale question.

[1:02:07] Voice 1: I mean, that's actually taking away housing, but

[1:02:10] Voice 1: or taking away that

[1:02:11] Voice 1: You're

[1:02:12] Voice 3: making me feel safer.

[1:02:16] Voice 3: Very good.

[1:02:16] Voice 3: yeah okay thank you

[1:02:19] Voice 3: for the thank you for

[1:02:20] Voice 3: getting all that together

[1:02:21] Voice 3: brilliant that

[1:02:22] Voice 3: implementation plan is so key it's really interesting you've done incredible work here

[1:02:28] Voice 3: really good all the other

[1:02:29] Voice 3: ltcs will benefit we can get this one going so we're moving on to

[1:02:36] Voice 3: to the LEB update minor amendments, page 23, the draft bylaw 193 for discussion prior to

[1:02:49] Voice 3: consideration of first, second, and third reading.

[1:02:52] Voice 3: Yeah, so really there's only, we've got the first policy statement here, so the only recommendation

[1:02:59] Voice 3: at this point is just that, is just to support that it's not contrary or

[1:03:07] Voice 3: variance to the policy statement, which it is. The elements in here are, and so at the last meeting

[1:03:14] Voice 3: the LTC had supported moving for not going to public hearing, that's part of the new legislation,

[1:03:24] Voice 3: legislation. So it's a second project in this trust area that is going in that direction.

[1:03:31] Voice 3: As for the new legislation that allows it to. So basically, if a project, if amendment

[1:03:44] Voice 3: by law does not seem to be contrary to the OCP, it's a new ballot. And in terms of process,

[1:03:51] Voice 3: us basically a notice we just sent out on subscriber list and

[1:03:57] Voice 3: go through the notification board to identify that we're

[1:04:01] Voice 3: moving past public hearing straight to the public for

[1:04:05] Voice 3: cycle 13. So that notice has yet to be posted. And agency

[1:04:12] Voice 3: referrals were sent out to the agency for stations. And we

[1:04:18] Voice 3: received we received a number of feedback that interests were not impacted. Moki did identify

[1:04:28] Voice 3: that they did have, they just wanted to point out that with respect to the Derelict Boats and

[1:04:35] Voice 3: Trailer Loops issue, they were just worried that people might push below into

[1:04:41] Voice 3: their right of way,

[1:04:46] Voice 3: And the other thing that they did point out, and I will talk to the Bain Island Music Fest

[1:04:54] Voice 3: folks about just contacting them because they haven't been on their tour permission to use

[1:05:01] Voice 3: like they need permission to for that long given event.

[1:05:05] Voice 3: They just need to be given a heads up basically.

[1:05:07] Voice 3: So I'll let them know.

[1:05:09] Voice 3: But those are their two points, it's great.

[1:05:13] Voice 3: Okay. Yeah. So other than that, you've gotten the draft bylaws. I provided the summary of the bylaws for you as well.

[1:05:20] Voice 3: There are a few changes, the ones that are highlighted are the changes that were made at your last meeting in March.

[1:05:28] Voice 3: And so there's an opportunity at this point to change anything that you might want to be changed

[1:05:34] Voice 3: um before you go to readings next uh next meeting

[1:05:40] Voice 5: sorry

[1:05:41] Voice 3: the other thing i will also point out is

[1:05:44] Voice 3: that in terms of feedback that we have received some feedback on um the rezoning of the uh the

[1:05:51] Voice 3: church lands um there was some concern around uh the changing of that from seniors and opening

[1:05:57] Voice 3: leaving that up to not just seniors, and also the body

[1:06:03] Voice 3: different mix of units. Yeah.

[1:06:08] Voice 3: Yeah. So just a

[1:06:10] Trustee Maude: couple of things. Page 28. 212. Because I

[1:06:19] Trustee Maude: don't have my PDF in front of me. Setting a separate

[1:06:23] Trustee Maude: renovation. That was the ease changing the wording with

[1:06:32] Trustee Maude: need some projections, is that what that was? I

[1:06:36] Trustee Maude: don't recall we ever talked about that previous.

[1:06:39] Voice 3: 2.2, no that's 2.1.2.

[1:06:44] Voice 3: No, that has to do with, 2.1.2 is the

[1:07:01] Trustee Maude: I know I found it very confusing when I looked it up, what it was.

[1:07:08] Trustee Maude: I thought, I thought it was about the projection.

[1:07:11] Trustee Maude: I

[1:07:15] Voice 1: don't remember us even talking but we didn't

[1:07:17] Voice 3: even talk about we didn't talk about you so

[1:07:22] Voice 3: but

[1:07:22] Trustee Maude: literally what is this

[1:07:24] Voice 3: updating

[1:07:27] Trustee Maude: a definition so it's not even really changing regulation

[1:07:31] Voice 3: it's

[1:07:31] Trustee Maude: just making it more clear but for some reason 3.0 meters

[1:07:40] Trustee Maude: oh

[1:07:40] Voice 3: yeah yeah so I think

[1:07:44] Voice 3: it was just so that was a technical change that was um so our our

[1:07:50] Voice 3: yes we had um bruce went through the thing that so that was one of the things that was listed in

[1:07:56] Voice 3: the previous um in a previous list of technical changes so it's just a technical change it's not

[1:08:02] Voice 3: it's not uh it doesn't make any sense it

[1:08:04] Trustee Maude: doesn't make sense no it's just changing within the

[1:08:06] Trustee Maude: boarding of words yeah um so moving down 2.16 um d um the total exterior area used to storage

[1:08:15] Trustee Maude: of vehicles equipment and materials may not exceed 350 square feet on lots less than five acres

[1:08:22] Trustee Maude: that struck me as being a stunningly low number um because

[1:08:26] Trustee Maude: you have five acres like a motor vehicle

[1:08:31] Trustee Maude: like say say a pickup truck is about 200 square feet so like for it to say to a contractor that

[1:08:38] Trustee Maude: you're limited to 300 square 50 square feet tubes where your pilot 2x4s your pile of pipes

[1:08:45] Trustee Maude: and your vehicles. It struck me as being a really, really small number.

[1:08:50] Trustee Maude: It's kind of like my patio thing, but different. I thought that we would be

[1:08:56] Trustee Maude: exceptionally conservative with that number. Because it's really a

[1:09:01] Trustee Maude: subliminal of like a pickup truck and a trailer. And we'll list all the

[1:09:06] Trustee Maude: equipment, all the materials, all the everything. And on five acres, that's

[1:09:10] Trustee Maude: pretty small.

[1:09:12] Voice 3: I discuss this a lot though.

[1:09:14] Voice 3: Oh, but

[1:09:15] Trustee Maude: I don't think we touched on that number.

[1:09:18] Voice 3: There was conversation around that, but further

[1:09:21] Voice 3: conversation about it.

[1:09:23] Voice 3: Well, and this is about the exterior area.

[1:09:27] Voice 1: So if you have,

[1:09:28] Voice 1: if you've got like a workshop or one of those parked vehicle

[1:09:32] Voice 1: covers, and you have it covered, but this is about open out in

[1:09:37] Voice 1: the air so it is 350 square feet is is like 30 by 30 by 10. i say i mean i could see changing

[1:09:48] Voice 1: the acreage down to maybe two acres instead of five but um at some point that's a lot of stuff

[1:09:56] Voice 1: if i'm not a one acre lot or a half acre lot so it's kind of how the acreage is defined there

[1:10:01] Voice 5: So

[1:10:02] Voice 1: I could see changing that, say, to maybe to one acre and then a different amount.

[1:10:10] Voice 1: We kind of talked about lot coverage with all of the material as well, like the storage.

[1:10:15] Voice 1: Yeah, so we just really need to...

[1:10:18] Trustee Maude: Because the acreage thing kind of makes sense to me. It was just the amount of stuff.

[1:10:24] Trustee Maude: Yes,

[1:10:24] Voice 1: of the five acres.

[1:10:26] Voice 1: Yeah,

[1:10:27] Trustee Maude: because it's just, it's basically the equivalent of, say, a truck and a trailer.

[1:10:31] Voice 1: So could we change that just to one acre, whatever that is?

[1:10:36] Voice 3: Well, and then what is the total exterior area allowed for more

[1:10:40] Voice 5: than one acre?

[1:10:41] Voice 3: They're not allowed

[1:10:42] Voice 3: to exceed the total area coverage?

[1:10:46] Trustee Maude: Yeah, but it just, because I think, like, we put the five acre in for the larger equipment,

[1:10:52] Trustee Maude: so that threshold, I think, makes sense.

[1:10:57] Trustee Maude: The other thing that I touched into is on B, it says must be screened from residential

[1:11:06] Trustee Maude: uses in adjoining blocks.

[1:11:08] Trustee Maude: My concern was, does that cover the front, like the road frontage?

[1:11:13] Trustee Maude: Because it talks about adjoining residential, but it doesn't seem to indicate about screening

[1:11:18] Trustee Maude: from the roadway.

[1:11:20] Trustee Maude: so

[1:11:20] Voice 3: that's all related to 2.8 landscape screening yeah um

[1:11:25] Voice 3: yeah so it doesn't specify roadway is

[1:11:34] Voice 3: um i

[1:11:35] Trustee Maude: think that would be an important yeah

[1:11:37] Voice 3: so we can add that oh

[1:11:39] Trustee Maude: to screen from the roadways

[1:11:42] Voice 3: so just for the minute take around 2.16 b uh we're going to amend by adding must be screened

[1:11:53] Voice 3: from residential uses on adjoining lots and the frontage?

[1:11:57] Voice 3: Or should these be screened from residential uses? Period? Must

[1:12:02] Voice 3: be screened?

[1:12:04] Trustee Maude: Because, um, yeah, I just think that that's because that tends

[1:12:11] Trustee Maude: to be where it is.

[1:12:13] Trustee Maude: So

[1:12:13] Voice 3: we'll just remove from residential uses on adjoining

[1:12:17] Voice 3: lots. Okay.

[1:12:18] Trustee Maude: Almost

[1:12:19] Voice 3: be screened. Right. Okay.

[1:12:24] Trustee Maude: So then F, contracted vehicles and equipment may only be operated on the property from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. Monday to Saturday.

[1:12:33] Trustee Maude: Now again, and where my concern is, you should know the ferry is at 7 o'clock in the morning, and virtually every dump truck on this island is on the 7 o'clock ferry.

[1:12:45] Trustee Maude: So it's interpretation-wise.

[1:12:49] Voice 3: Yeah, again, it's up to you, right?

[1:12:50] Trustee Maude: I

[1:12:50] Voice 3: mean this is because

[1:12:51] Trustee Maude: the way the CRD noise file has written is this except for people going to

[1:12:56] Trustee Maude: the ferry so

[1:12:57] Voice 3: why don't we just refer to the CRD as the CRD noise file yeah and take that 8 a.m

[1:13:04] Voice 3: yeah yeah okay yeah

[1:13:06] Trustee Maude: that I think that's an excellent situation okay

[1:13:09] Voice 3: so sorry are we going

[1:13:11] Voice 3: back to d yeah so what do you want to change there the totals external area well my concern

[1:13:17] Trustee Maude: will be the 350 square feet but you know if we can we can sit on it and see how people they can

[1:13:27] Trustee Maude: and see where because it would put a line in the sand we can change the line of the same okay

[1:13:31] Voice 3: so i

[1:13:32] Trustee Maude: think the world okay

[1:13:33] Voice 3: so you flag that as a concern but

[1:13:34] Voice 3: let's let the community uh give us

[1:13:37] Trustee Maude: feedback

[1:13:37] Voice 3: on that um

[1:13:38] Trustee Maude: so we're moving over to page 30.

[1:13:40] Voice 3: okay um

[1:13:41] Trustee Maude: column one um this is about the tea

[1:13:46] Trustee Maude: church um and what we said in um in in the spice specific regulations um for the accommodation of

[1:13:53] Trustee Maude: school staff is permitted the kids will use i'm my my concern is that we're talking about an

[1:14:00] Trustee Maude: employee not like that so like if you were mainly trying to interpret it that sounds to me that the

[1:14:08] Trustee Maude: vice minister can stay in that house but his wife and kids can't oh because it is it's really

[1:14:14] Voice 1: staff and family does that

[1:14:18] Trustee Maude: make sense uh yeah

[1:14:20] Trustee Maude: yeah yeah okay

[1:14:22] Trustee Maude: um then if we bounce down to 2.25

[1:14:27] Trustee Maude: on that page um we're talking about uh a utility building in the utility um there's we we haven't

[1:14:39] Trustee Maude: put i don't see a limit on the square footage on that structure is that buried someplace else

[1:14:44] Trustee Maude: within the LEP.

[1:14:46] Voice 3: Great, which one was that? So

[1:14:49] Trustee Maude: 2.25. So page 30,

[1:14:54] Voice 1: utility shed.

[1:14:56] Trustee Maude: Yeah, so we've said

[1:14:57] Trustee Maude: you can have a utility shed, page 30. 2.25,

[1:15:04] Trustee Maude: yeah. So we said we can have a shed, that's cool, but we

[1:15:06] Trustee Maude: haven't limited the size that I saw.

[1:15:08] Voice 3: Yes, because it is limited in the definition. Perfect. The two

[1:15:13] Voice 3: percent won't cover it so you got it so utility

[1:15:17] Voice 3: which is um maximum floor area of 10 square meters perfect okay yeah it's covered

[1:15:35] Trustee Maude: and

[1:15:36] Voice 3: i

[1:15:37] Trustee Maude: think that's all of the stuff that i had questions about

[1:15:40] Voice 3: okay okay anything

[1:15:44] Voice 3: No, but what I'd want to mention is that we've had three letters from neighbors complaining about the proposed change to the housing at the church to take away

[1:15:57] Voice 1: the specific of senior housing and making it accommodating to other uses.

[1:16:04] Voice 1: And Janine is involved with the church.

[1:16:10] Trustee Maude: But to be clear, we're not changing that state anyway.

[1:16:14] Trustee Maude: well

[1:16:14] Voice 1: in this and so it's it's it's in the reading of it you have to be clear that this is still the

[1:16:19] Voice 1: same 16 units but we're just saying they can be a variety of different yeah

[1:16:24] Voice 1: different main cups

[1:16:27] Voice 1: whether it's duplexes four plexes or single family homes so i think that's i thought they

[1:16:33] Voice 1: would be here to talk to us about it but i've read it read it read it through and it makes

[1:16:37] Voice 1: perfect sense to me that we made that change it's been zoned for senior housing for 30 years

[1:16:42] Voice 3: maybe more.

[1:16:44] Voice 1: I don't think we have much hope of getting just seniors, and I don't think we'd actually

[1:16:49] Voice 3: probably be encouraged

[1:16:50] Voice 3: to be rallying.

[1:16:53] Voice 3: I

[1:16:53] Voice 1: think the wording allows for seniors as well as other members of the group.

[1:16:59] Voice 3: So it makes it more inclusive. I think it's important to acknowledge its meaning.

[1:17:04] Voice 3: We have had letters of concern, and we've read them.

[1:17:09] Voice 1: so we've taken that into

[1:17:10] Voice 1: consideration but i think this is excellent move to hopefully open the door

[1:17:15] Voice 1: to some kind of housing if it's constructed well

[1:17:18] Trustee Maude: i think the plan has captured very well in the

[1:17:21] Trustee Maude: description saying it's increasing the flexibility of housing type on the church land it's excellent

[1:17:26] Trustee Maude: so it captures it beautifully we're not changing density we're not changing anything we're just

[1:17:33] Trustee Maude: opening up opportunities to others yeah which i think is very fair and reasonable in the community

[1:17:40] Voice 3: Yeah, I think it's also important to point out that there isn't anything planned at this

[1:17:48] Voice 3: point.

[1:17:48] Voice 3: Yeah.

[1:17:50] Voice 3: So it still keeps it different.

[1:17:54] Voice 3: There's no discussion with anybody about the problems with that.

[1:17:59] Voice 3: We did have some initial discussions about a variety of

[1:18:03] Voice 3: properties with habitat theory

[1:18:05] Voice 3: humanity.

[1:18:06] Voice 3: And I have reconnected with them.

[1:18:09] Voice 3: I haven't talked to them for a long time.

[1:18:11] Voice 3: almost a year now. I've reconnected with them and we'll have a discussion beginning of next week to start to see if they're still interested in what they're

[1:18:22] Voice 3: what they're interested in.

[1:18:24] Voice 3: They

[1:18:25] Voice 5: did indicate that

[1:18:26] Voice 3: they are interested in supporting the building of housing in the Gulf Islands. So

[1:18:34] Voice 3: So

[1:18:34] Voice 1: just in case people are watching or going to watch this video later, I'd like to reiterate

[1:18:38] Voice 1: that we define seniors as people 55 and over.

[1:18:41] Voice 1: And people 55 and over could be raising grandchildren with the seniors, as it was today.

[1:18:48] Voice 1: Seniors are not all ancient,

[1:18:50] Voice 3: they're very active.

[1:18:53] Voice 3: Many of them still work.

[1:18:54] Voice 3: Many of them still work well after 50 years, or they spend all their time volunteering,

[1:19:01] Voice 1: period. Just light work. Just about, yeah. Okay, great. Just wanted that on the record. For sure.

[1:19:07] Voice 3: Okay, any further comments on this? And is somebody ready to go?

[1:19:12] Trustee Maude: Okay, I'll move to the

[1:19:13] Trustee Maude: Manitoba Local Trust Committee, File No. 193, Center's Manitoba Land Use File No. 146-2008,

[1:19:18] Trustee Maude: Amendment No. 1-2023 is not contrary or in variance with the Titleist Trust Policy Statement.

[1:19:24] Voice 3: Great, seconded that. Seconded by Trustee Donald. Any further discussion? All those in favor?

[1:19:31] Voice 3: Hi, that is Carrie. Well done on the second piece of work, and you made it through almost a year.

[1:19:42] Voice 3: Well, it's a lot of tiddly-diddy stuff.

[1:19:44] Voice 3: Tiddly-diddy, yes, exactly.

[1:19:48] Voice 3: Okay, so we go to our reports. We've got an active projects report, future projects list.

[1:19:57] Voice 3: list. Any questions on those? Yes, we're going to amend the list and move forward with the

[1:20:06] Voice 3: bill.

[1:20:07] Voice 3: I think we could update this a little bit to housing implementation is that's the project.

[1:20:41] Voice 3: Any comments on applications? Georgina Point Road, we might have an action. Oh, no, we're

[1:20:51] Voice 3: going to discuss that. Sorry. Yeah. Okay.

[1:21:00] Voice 3: I can give you

[1:21:01] Voice 5: an update on

[1:21:02] Voice 3: the application. Okay. So

[1:21:10] Voice 3: he was

[1:21:13] Voice 3: requested. Oh, right. So the body I requested drawings,

[1:21:21] Voice 3: engineering guys on the retaining wall, and we're waiting

[1:21:29] Voice 3: So they received them in November, December, they were not adequate, they got some very specific

[1:21:36] Voice 3: details back about how to improve them. They received some new drawings in February

[1:21:44] Voice 3: and I think Modi has had quite a lot of applications and so they took some time to

[1:21:52] Voice 3: get to it and then they and then it's been identified that there's still inadequacies so

[1:21:56] Voice 3: um there's still there's some work that that is going on between the applicant and um with respect

[1:22:03] Voice 3: to that in addition um the um on the other side of the road the erosion etc there has been some

[1:22:13] Voice 3: back and forth uh conversation floating around um planting um and what i understand from the

[1:22:20] Voice 3: the last few minutes that I was referring to, that they were requesting that

[1:22:28] Voice 3: it's a geotechnical analysis.

[1:22:33] Voice 3: So I did ask the question because I've been told by the builder that there are

[1:22:39] Voice 3: engineering reports on other tanks, because there certainly have been concerns

[1:22:46] Voice 3: expressed about those.

[1:22:47] Voice 3: So could we request that the planner connect with the builder to get copies?

[1:22:53] Voice 3: we are sure that that's actually happening they are well anchored applications as just expenses

[1:23:21] Voice 3: i guess i'll note here um minute taking role has been taken over from our faithful yeah

[1:23:35] Voice 5: long time

[1:23:37] Voice 3: time pat um and uh this budget will look different going forward because the expenses for the minute

[1:23:45] Voice 3: taking which would normally come out of ltc meeting expenses will come

[1:23:49] Voice 1: out of the

[1:23:49] Voice 3: operating budget and

[1:23:50] Voice 3: that's why the budget and dollars spent for the all of last year all of the ltcs is really out of

[1:23:57] Voice 3: whack as if we anticipated to be anyway just just for the public's information if you're

[1:24:02] Voice 3: wondering why we can't do budgeting because it was budgeted and the position wasn't filled for

[1:24:08] Voice 3: eight months so um we still had contractor expenses for our ltcs which threw everything out of balance

[1:24:18] Voice 3: uh okay let me know trust committee web page chairs report trustee report okay

[1:24:26] Voice 3: chairs report how do i go first i

[1:24:29] Trustee Maude: don't

[1:24:30] Voice 3: like that it's the only

[1:24:32] Trustee Maude: ltc that does that

[1:24:33] Trustee Maude: that it is

[1:24:34] Voice 3: everybody else has the trustees go first um okay well i did attend a number of

[1:24:40] Voice 3: meetings and there's lots going coming up so regional planning committee met on friday the

[1:24:47] Voice 3: 24th which i'm part of and we discussed um the housing strategy which trust council had adopted

[1:24:56] Voice 3: adopted and there's some information on actions and future actions that we've asked staff to

[1:25:03] Voice 3: follow up on. One big piece of information that I think will be relevant for all the LTCs is bylaw

[1:25:09] Voice 3: enforcement. The bylaw enforcement review project, we've added a piece of work to the InScope.

[1:25:19] Voice 3: This is actually at Warren Dingman's initiation. He was doing some research and found that most

[1:25:24] Voice 3: Most other local governments have just a set of policies with regards to definitions and priorities and something that's just very clear and transparent.

[1:25:38] Voice 3: And he's going to develop a policy manual for each LTC that would replace the standing resolutions that we have.

[1:25:46] Voice 3: How many HLTC passes don't enforce on housing there?

[1:25:50] Voice 3: You know, our bylaws are out of whack with the needs of the community today.

[1:25:56] Voice 3: So there's going to be a development of a policy and procedures manual that'll be just for HLTC.

[1:26:03] Voice 3: So I'm really encouraged by this piece of work.

[1:26:07] Voice 3: And I've had a lot of good feedback from communities, other communities that I'm in.

[1:26:12] Voice 3: So I just wanted to pass that on.

[1:26:13] Voice 3: and we had an update on the freshwater we're going to get an implementation plan for

[1:26:22] Voice 3: September on the freshwater well the freshwater balance project that'll be the main aspect of

[1:26:31] Voice 3: freshwater sustainability strategy so how that's going to be worked out hoping to get some

[1:26:37] Voice 3: information and plan going similar to our housing strategy and then the big news coming up is

[1:26:45] Voice 3: may 30th very first committee of the whole meeting for the island's trust will also be the first time

[1:26:53] Voice 3: that trustees get to discuss and debate draft policy statement version two so this is now it's

[1:27:02] Voice 3: It's been published for about two and a half weeks.

[1:27:05] Voice 3: You can view it online by going to the May 30th meeting and there's a lot of materials

[1:27:12] Voice 3: and appendices and a black line version where you can compare the previous draft to the

[1:27:18] Voice 3: new draft.

[1:27:20] Voice 3: And so this is our first open meeting to just discuss it.

[1:27:23] Voice 3: We're not going to make any decisions, probably going to have more committee the whole meetings

[1:27:27] Voice 3: meetings to discuss, and maybe six to eight months, the public engagement process will

[1:27:36] Voice 3: start. So this is a trustee's first chance to have a go at it. I'm looking forward to

[1:27:45] Voice 3: it. I think that's all for my chair's report. We've got a financial planning meeting coming

[1:27:50] Voice 3: up. Oh, and I can report that the CAO hiring committee has made some good progress, secured

[1:27:58] Voice 3: at an executive search firm and that process will be starting to do the external search for our next

[1:28:07] Voice 3: cao and we've got an interim plan for an internal candidate who will be able to carry carry things

[1:28:17] Voice 3: and uh there's been really good progress on that front so okay over to you trustees who wants to

[1:28:25] Voice 3: with us. So I attended a meeting with with Marissa and the CRD

[1:28:31] Voice 1: staff, Steve and Steven Henderson, and some community

[1:28:36] Voice 1: vendors, where we did a walkthrough of the Linnéco Mount

[1:28:41] Voice 1: Park, Parkland. And in that area, there was four acres that

[1:28:45] Voice 1: were declared surplus to the park. So the idea when we're

[1:28:49] Voice 1: looking there, because we'd like the surplus lines to possibly

[1:28:52] Voice 1: the housing so it was interesting to see the land that was there and what tips may or may not arise

[1:29:00] Voice 1: from that land either to go to a non-profit or to go to a local group to get some kind of housing

[1:29:08] Voice 1: there'll be one real advantage to that land is that it will be part of the woodgill water system

[1:29:14] Voice 1: that's already there and they are planning to move the storage tanks to that area where the road goes

[1:29:20] Voice 1: through over to Glen Inco so it was

[1:29:22] Voice 3: interesting to walk through and see it's not

[1:29:24] Voice 3: perfect by any means

[1:29:26] Voice 3: it's fairly steep land but it is four acres so it was it was well worth the visit in there kind of

[1:29:32] Voice 3: hard to see exactly where it was going to go but it's a start so that that was

[1:29:37] Voice 1: sort of the first

[1:29:38] Voice 1: that was back in april i attended a meeting at the request of the mainland conservancy who met

[1:29:44] Voice 1: um privately with adam olson to talk about a grant that they received from the victoria

[1:29:49] Voice 1: foundation and this grant is all about hunting and working with first nations to learn you know

[1:29:55] Voice 1: how you hunt why you hunt the relationship with deer and our community

[1:30:00] Voice 1: so it's a relationship building at First Nations, so it's kind of exciting if they can actually hopefully get it funded over an ongoing period of time to create maybe more of a desire to have that as an absolute

[1:30:14] Voice 3: security, etc.

[1:30:15] Voice 3: Are they following the Galliano Conservancy model?

[1:30:19] Voice 3: So they've had, they've had, well, they've

[1:30:21] Voice 1: had a conservancy

[1:30:22] Voice 3: that helped with the program.

[1:30:23] Voice 3: This

[1:30:24] Voice 1: is more to bring elders

[1:30:25] Voice 3: in, to work with the community, actually processing for years.

[1:30:31] Voice 3: So, so they were, you know, it was exciting and they just wanted to share that information

[1:30:35] Voice 3: with Adam.

[1:30:36] Voice 3: It's, it's baby steps in terms of conservancy in relationships, conservancy in relationships

[1:30:45] Voice 3: So I went to that, and that was when Adam was here, and that was good, and then I had a short meeting afterwards to share the information I had from the previous two-year program for stations on the front of my Zoom meetings.

[1:31:06] Voice 3: We had one Zoom meeting that was all

[1:31:07] Voice 1: about harbors, which included all the CRD area, the municipalities and Gulf Islands, Ganties, harbors, province with COVID-19.

[1:31:18] Voice 3: and jurisdiction of the waters. And then the next day, I don't know which day was which,

[1:31:24] Voice 3: we had a Zoom meeting with the Ministry of Transport, all sorts of things.

[1:31:30] Voice 3: And then there was another meeting. Oh, the

[1:31:34] Voice 3: Southern Milk Islands Forum was on Monday.

[1:31:37] Voice 3: Yeah, yeah, that was something else. But anyway,

[1:31:40] Voice 3: so it's been quite busy in terms of the different meetings.

[1:31:45] Voice 3: But, you know, it's all it's, it's all positive working towards, hopefully, a resolution.

[1:31:52] Voice 3: Well, a fellow

[1:31:53] Voice 3: dear to me, for the first time since last fall, we had submitted our framework

[1:31:59] Voice 3: for a

[1:31:59] Voice 1: management plan to the CRD, it was all excited about it.

[1:32:04] Voice 1: But then things kind of petered out, it gets shuffled off.

[1:32:07] Voice 1: So we've gone back to writing, say, you know, we'd be told that you will take our framework

[1:32:12] Voice 1: work and turn it into a plan that we then can take the

[1:32:15] Voice 1: province to get some long term funding.

[1:32:17] Voice 3: So we're still slogging

[1:32:19] Voice 3: away to actually get a plan that's funded by CRD that will

[1:32:24] Voice 3: lead to long term management. So it's ongoing a lot of it's to do

[1:32:31] Voice 3: with the deer. That's an ongoing concern.

[1:32:38] Voice 3: Thank you.

[1:32:42] Trustee Maude: Well, you guys don't touch all the good stuff, so, but policy statement, I think for

[1:32:48] Trustee Maude: Main Island, I think the important thing to point out is that we had two substantive community

[1:32:54] Trustee Maude: meetings last go-round, and we received a lot of feedback from the community, and I'm

[1:33:01] Trustee Maude: really pleased to say that virtually everything that we fed back into the policy statement

[1:33:06] Trustee Maude: was adopted. So when people say we don't make a difference or you guys are

[1:33:12] Trustee Maude: forwarding an agenda or something you know there was maybe 16 points there was

[1:33:17] Trustee Maude: a large laundry list that came off this island and every one of those points was

[1:33:21] Trustee Maude: adopted so it makes me as part of a public process you

[1:33:27] Trustee Maude: know I'm kind of

[1:33:28] Trustee Maude: proud you know people in main island did have an impact they gave their feedback

[1:33:33] Trustee Maude: that it got heard and it got incorporated so that's why it's good to come out to meetings

[1:33:38] Voice 5: so

[1:33:39] Trustee Maude: that that was great and certainly like the the the marine maritime meeting of docs and

[1:33:48] Trustee Maude: boring boys and all that that was really valuable because

[1:33:51] Trustee Maude: it was finally putting everybody in one

[1:33:54] Trustee Maude: room and discussing a common issue and instead of the a finger pointing exercise and saying it's

[1:34:01] Trustee Maude: not our problem it's your problem everybody kind of embraced um from first nations to the feds

[1:34:08] Trustee Maude: the province to crd house trust that is our problem

[1:34:11] Voice 5: right and

[1:34:12] Trustee Maude: i think hopefully there's

[1:34:15] Trustee Maude: going to be a second meeting where we actually start to talk about action plans particularly

[1:34:19] Trustee Maude: like it's not really a problem here but the liveaboard situation and other jurisdictions

[1:34:24] Trustee Maude: is huge, but it is important for most people to recognize, who may not, is Island's Trust

[1:34:32] Trustee Maude: extends a lot farther than people think. We go all the way down Santa Chin land, all the

[1:34:38] Trustee Maude: way past James Island. So where there's this problem in Brentwood Bay, that's an Island's

[1:34:43] Trustee Maude: Trust problem. In

[1:34:44] Trustee Maude: CM Harbour in Sydney, that's an Island's Trust problem. We have a very

[1:34:49] Trustee Maude: very broad mandate for where our land goes, and where we do enforcement. So I think we're

[1:34:57] Trustee Maude: going to be a key part of that.

[1:34:59] Trustee Maude: Was

[1:34:59] Voice 3: there a future meeting planned or what time was it?

[1:35:03] Trustee Maude: It was October, I think, for the Harbours.

[1:35:05] Trustee Maude: Harbours, I think we talked about October.

[1:35:08] Voice 1: But a lot of this ties into the hope to get this region area established, because right

[1:35:15] Voice 1: now we have all this fractured jurisdictions yeah more than three federal governments for

[1:35:20] Voice 1: intergovernmental islands trusts or municipalities into one single umbrella under the moving

[1:35:26] Voice 1: conservation area running running

[1:35:29] Voice 3: the whole show so there's that's a conversation okay

[1:35:32] Trustee Maude: and then

[1:35:33] Trustee Maude: the ministry of transportation meeting was also very valuable yeah it opened up some doors of

[1:35:41] Trustee Maude: communication um there were some good news like well most islands are getting yellow lines which

[1:35:48] Trustee Maude: sounds very trivial but it's very major uh there's a lot of public safety issues there um modi's put

[1:35:55] Trustee Maude: off for over a dozen years doing it and this year we're actually gonna get some yellow lines which

[1:36:01] Trustee Maude: is great but there's also we've got a bit of informal protocol now when they're doing stuff

[1:36:07] Trustee Maude: they're going to inform you about it. I think you've seen most of the the recent

[1:36:11] Trustee Maude: information that they don't self-handle but every time they plan on doing something they

[1:36:15] Trustee Maude: send a little email saying just you know this is what we're doing that really helps yeah because

[1:36:21] Trustee Maude: honest trust tends to be the public facing part of character on the islands

[1:36:25] Trustee Maude: and you know so when somebody comes and asks us something

[1:36:28] Voice 5: we

[1:36:30] Trustee Maude: really it's it's it's better

[1:36:32] Trustee Maude: rather than saying well look into it and actually say no we've heard about that

[1:36:35] Trustee Maude: this is what's going on so I I found both those meetings really really really positive and I think

[1:36:44] Trustee Maude: a lot of people learned a lot of stuff um which is that's what communication is about so great

[1:36:51] Trustee Maude: so I guess I can close it up thank

[1:36:53] Voice 3: you it's a great um great summary for you okay so now we

[1:37:01] Voice 3: to come to our electoral area director we do have an honest trust conservancy report

[1:37:08] Voice 3: uh page 50 but i will note that uh manager kate emmings is going to be um working for the

[1:37:18] Voice 3: conservancy data center i guess and very excited to to learn a lot there and be able to bring those

[1:37:25] Voice 3: doing that so we're going to miss her a ton we've got a meeting tomorrow the conservancy's

[1:37:33] Voice 3: really the only work we have to do in the next year is engaging with first nations to

[1:37:40] Voice 3: get really deep input on what does conservation look like and developing our five-year plan

[1:37:48] Voice 3: so the interim plan as we know was not adopted by the minister or approved and so really the

[1:37:55] Voice 3: work we have to do is engaging with First Nations and managing the properties that we do have so

[1:37:59] Voice 3: that's been we're going to miss Kate a lot it's a huge job it's shy and Claire Freider just got

[1:38:09] Voice 3: fully staffed and now that oh gosh yes okay so three items of new business does anyone need to

[1:38:15] Voice 3: take a break or we're going to power through we're powering okay

[1:38:18] Voice 3: 52 our annual report if you need to

[1:38:23] Voice 5: Okay.

[1:38:25] Voice 3: Any changes to the text that will be included in the 2024?

[1:38:30] Voice 3: I

[1:38:30] Trustee Maude: had a couple of things. Okay.

[1:38:32] Trustee Maude: So we'll start off at the beginning. It says the Maine Island

[1:38:35] Trustee Maude: Local Trust Area comprises comprises 20 associated islands Maine, Kirtland, and Gertzland.

[1:38:41] Trustee Maude: That seems very very truncated. Yeah.

[1:38:43] Trustee Maude: To me it should say Maine Island Local Trust Area comprises

[1:38:47] Trustee Maude: Maine Island, and 20 associated islands, including Curlew and George's Island.

[1:38:53] Voice 3: Sure.

[1:38:53] Voice 3: I

[1:38:54] Trustee Maude: think it's just a little better.

[1:38:57] Voice 3: So can we reword that for the minute taker, that changing the first word to,

[1:39:02] Voice 3: or the first sentence to,

[1:39:05] Voice 3: Traskin area comprises Maine Island, comma, 20 associated islands, comma,

[1:39:12] Voice 3: and Curlew and George's Island.

[1:39:14] Trustee Maude: Including.

[1:39:14] Trustee Maude: Including.

[1:39:15] Voice 3: Curlew and George's Island.

[1:39:17] Trustee Maude: Okay.

[1:39:17] Trustee Maude: great um

[1:39:18] Trustee Maude: the second one is um the second part is the main island local trust committee is located

[1:39:23] Trustee Maude: within the territory of first nations i know and

[1:39:26] Trustee Maude: i had to well i've changed on the other islands to

[1:39:29] Trustee Maude: of many or several first nations okay so

[1:39:33] Trustee Maude: because it sounds like of first nations it sounds like

[1:39:37] Trustee Maude: one yeah it's

[1:39:39] Trustee Maude: very singular it's not very inclusive many

[1:39:41] Voice 3: so many first nations yeah

[1:39:46] Trustee Maude: And the other thing I was wondering about, if we wanted to talk about more

[1:39:53] Trustee Maude: main island specific issues, if we wanted to put a statement in about fallow deer.

[1:39:57] Voice 3: That's a good idea. Sure.

[1:40:01] Trustee Maude: It's a special

[1:40:02] Voice 3: thing for me.

[1:40:03] Voice 3: Devastating our natural environment. The

[1:40:06] Voice 3: fallow deer invasion continues.

[1:40:08] Trustee Maude: So for our poor meditator, it would be...

[1:40:13] Trustee Maude: So

[1:40:14] Voice 3: after the Purple Martin sentence, do you want to say that the intramural species, the

[1:40:21] Voice 3: fallow deer and intramural species continues to depredate the local or the native plants

[1:40:29] Voice 3: and the environment?

[1:40:31] Voice 3: Yeah.

[1:40:31] Trustee Maude: The single largest threat to our ecosystem.

[1:40:35] Voice 3: And it's not just the plants, it's where they have trails, so

[1:40:38] Voice 1: they create hard-capped areas,

[1:40:40] Voice 1: so when you get heavy rainfall you get so impacting the

[1:40:43] Voice 3: soil so the fallow deer the

[1:40:46] Voice 3: fallow deer introduced to bain island continue to impact the ecosystem and

[1:40:53] Voice 3: devastate the understory it needs to great major impacts are we happy with that lisa is that

[1:41:04] Voice 3: through the chair

[1:41:05] Voice 4: continues to devastate

[1:41:08] Voice 4: the

[1:41:09] Voice 3: understory

[1:41:10] Voice 3: and also

[1:41:13] Voice 4: where did you want that

[1:41:14] Voice 4: located in the document

[1:41:15] Voice 3: after in the third paragraph

[1:41:18] Voice 3: after North America

[1:41:20] Voice 3: just

[1:41:21] Voice 4: add on a sentence

[1:41:22] Voice 3: they follow

[1:41:23] Voice 3: dear population

[1:41:25] Voice 3: I'm going to write it out

[1:41:28] Trustee Maude: I've

[1:41:29] Voice 4: got it

[1:41:30] Voice 4: thank you so much

[1:41:31] Voice 3: That's great. Anything else? Any further changes? All right. So if somebody wants to move the resolution, just say approve the attached text as amended.

[1:41:56] Voice 3: So we move that the Main Island Local Trust Committee approves the attached text as amended

[1:42:03] Voice 3: for inclusion in the 2023-24 Annual Report for approval by Trust Council and submission

[1:42:10] Voice 3: to the Minister of Municipal Affairs.

[1:42:12] Voice 3: Moved by Trustee Dodd, seconded by Trustee Pimaud.

[1:42:16] Voice 3: All those in favour?

[1:42:18] Voice 3: Aye.

[1:42:19] Voice 3: That is carried.

[1:42:20] Voice 3: It's getting to be a little routine here.

[1:42:22] Voice 5: I

[1:42:23] Voice 3: shouldn't just assume. Okay, we have two pieces

[1:42:29] Voice 3: of new business. So number one was the Georgina Point Road.

[1:42:34] Voice 3: Yeah, I moved

[1:42:35] Voice 1: that the local trust committee draft a letter to the Ministry of Transportation and Infrastructure expressing our serious concern about the condition of whatever the number is,

[1:42:49] Voice 1: house number on church construction disturbance

[1:42:52] Voice 3: to the uh construction disturbance to the landscape

[1:42:58] Voice 3: on whatever the address is caritina point road can we just say for the safety safety safety and

[1:43:08] Trustee Maude: bank stability protocols

[1:43:09] Voice 3: yes yeah well stability okay

[1:43:12] Voice 3: mobility so that's a little you may not look at trust committee drafts the letter to monte

[1:43:18] Voice 3: Moti, I would just add the property owner.

[1:43:20] Voice 4: So 340

[1:43:20] Voice 3: Rodina Point Road?

[1:43:21] Voice 3: Okay.

[1:43:23] Voice 3: Moti and the property.

[1:43:25] Voice 3: Yeah.

[1:43:25] Voice 4: Could you start over, please?

[1:43:27] Voice 4: There was three or four people talking.

[1:43:29] Voice 3: Okay.

[1:43:31] Voice 3: The property owner regarding 340, was it?

[1:43:37] Voice 3: Okay.

[1:43:40] Voice 3: Okay.

[1:43:41] Voice 3: So the Maine Island Local Trust Committee

[1:43:44] Voice 3: draft a letter to the Ministry of Transportation Infrastructure

[1:43:48] Voice 3: and the property owner of 340 Georgina Point Road expressing grave concern

[1:44:02] Voice 3: regarding the safety and slope stability of the property what action do you want

[1:44:16] Voice 3: i think you're just expressing it okay that would be they clearly have looked at it okay

[1:44:23] Voice 3: is that sufficient second second okay uh lisa do you have that okay yes

[1:44:33] Voice 4: breaks

[1:44:34] Voice 3: um move by trusty

[1:44:35] Voice 3: dots second by trusty mod any further discussion all those in favor aye that is carried great

[1:44:45] Voice 3: Great. Item 2, or sorry, 13.3. Let's go slower this time. Writing derelict boats. Well, I think, I'm just not quite sure, but keep writing letters,

[1:45:00] Voice 1: they're ineffective, but I think that we have to believe, we as a local trust committee have not written to Elizabeth

[1:45:08] Voice 3: Bay, I guess, about the derelict boats in Horton Bay.

[1:45:15] Voice 3: and about the entire just not even sure having

[1:45:18] Voice 1: been in lots of zoom meetings with adam and

[1:45:21] Voice 1: elizabeth exactly what in

[1:45:24] Voice 3: action is being taken by the federal government at this point so maybe

[1:45:28] Voice 3: just a general you know we want to express our concerns over the handling of warning boys by

[1:45:36] Voice 3: transport canada and the treatment for derelict vessels that that's not perfect oh

[1:45:43] Trustee Maude: but i i think

[1:45:44] Trustee Maude: we need to express concern for safety and hazards navigation navigation

[1:45:50] Voice 3: yeah okay navigation because

[1:45:53] Trustee Maude: there is one specific vessel yeah that

[1:45:57] Trustee Maude: you know i think is a i'll be grave concern

[1:46:02] Trustee Maude: because the potential for a kid to get and

[1:46:05] Voice 3: then they can we send it to elizabeth may

[1:46:07] Voice 3: and and also going back to the public i think if you you should cc it to addables as well but

[1:46:14] Voice 3: But really, it is Transport Canada that's responsible for the marine poise and for the

[1:46:19] Voice 3: derelict places.

[1:46:20] Voice 3: And they tend to call in the Coast Guard, and then they sort of do a little bit, and

[1:46:25] Voice 3: then they leave with the roofing sinks.

[1:46:28] Voice 3: But hasn't Transport Canada, like, they're well-informed.

[1:46:31] Voice 3: They have come to visit.

[1:46:33] Voice 3: Well, this

[1:46:33] Voice 1: is why I'm wondering.

[1:46:34] Voice 3: And I just, so we keep having updates from, we're doing what we can for the mileage trucks.

[1:46:41] Voice 3: because they're ticketing the floats that are allowed but we have no way to ticket the

[1:46:48] Voice 3: second boats we can't but we have the lorry boys and the um the dead boat societies

[1:46:54] Voice 3: on

[1:46:55] Trustee Maude: the on the second boat i think everybody's been calling the buildings

[1:47:00] Voice 1: but they don't yeah

[1:47:00] Voice 1: and and they can only do if it's based on the funding that they get so they are

[1:47:05] Voice 1: simply i don't know that they're even ahead of the game in terms of how i know what they're

[1:47:10] Voice 1: They're a volunteer society funded through the Oceans Protection Plan.

[1:47:14] Voice 1: So this really is a simple say to our local federal politician.

[1:47:19] Voice 1: And to come back with a pat answer, it was very frustrating.

[1:47:24] Trustee Maude: Well, I think in particular in the concept, like the O'Keefe situation,

[1:47:28] Trustee Maude: where they did go in and they did remove a boat and they did find the boat owner,

[1:47:33] Trustee Maude: they do have the option.

[1:47:34] Voice 3: And they have signed a few, and I don't quite know why they don't anymore.

[1:47:38] Voice 3: more um and i guess really this probably in many ways should just have gone straight and trust

[1:47:43] Voice 3: council itself should be dealing with this entire we all every island has this right that kind of

[1:47:50] Voice 3: to me that makes more sense is to wrap it up with you know on every island there's a critical hot

[1:47:57] Voice 3: spot right um could we bring this forward as a requested trust council to devote some advocacy

[1:48:06] Voice 3: concede to this and actually have the chair right why

[1:48:08] Voice 1: don't we send this letter we'll get a response

[1:48:10] Voice 3: and then put september trust council will start ahead

[1:48:14] Voice 1: of time to

[1:48:15] Voice 3: put together resolution so you

[1:48:17] Voice 3: want to direct the chair to write a letter to mp and mla adam olson okay and

[1:48:24] Trustee Maude: claire will probably

[1:48:24] Trustee Maude: give you the cc list

[1:48:25] Voice 3: okay so expressing concern over the handling of boring boys

[1:48:36] Voice 3: The handling of the DARE lifeboats, which are navigational hazards.

[1:48:47] Voice 3: Concern over the navigation, as navigation hazards.

[1:48:50] Voice 3: And public safety.

[1:48:52] Voice 3: Navigation hazards.

[1:48:53] Voice 3: The boat is sinking, and the boat sinks.

[1:48:57] Voice 3: Oh, okay, the boat is sinking. Bye.

[1:48:59] Voice 3: Basically, that's what the Coast Guard does.

[1:49:02] Voice 1: It would be different if you knew that the Coast Guard then contacted the DARE lifeboat society,

[1:49:07] Voice 1: that there was a step-by-step and that you were actually on a list and this is what we're going

[1:49:12] Voice 1: to do with this vessel and yes we're going to find the owner this is okay

[1:49:16] Voice 3: but

[1:49:18] Voice 5: all three of us

[1:49:19] Voice 5: thank

[1:49:19] Voice 3: you okay

[1:49:20] Voice 3: so we're going to let's just do that not direct the chair she doesn't do anything

[1:49:27] Voice 3: that's the main island ltc local trust committee right right to

[1:49:35] Voice 3: we don't need a letter right to member of parliament elizabeth may and mla adam olson

[1:49:43] Voice 3: to express concern over the handling of derelict boats as now

[1:49:48] Voice 3: and becoming navigation hazards thank you becoming navigation hazards and the matter

[1:49:59] Voice 3: of public safety in Horton Bay. And

[1:50:02] Voice 1: you can leave that.

[1:50:04] Voice 3: I can't copy it in the chat. So I move that

[1:50:08] Voice 3: the Maine Island Local Trust Committee write to MP Elizabeth May and MLA Adam Olson to express

[1:50:13] Voice 3: concern over the handling of derelict boats becoming navigation hazards and the matter of

[1:50:20] Voice 3: public safety in Horton Bay. I'll second it. Seconded by Trustee Dodds. And all those in favor?

[1:50:27] Voice 3: carry it so i can email that to you if you want it's a little messy apologize great

[1:50:36] Voice 3: and we now have another town hall and so this is again your opportunity to talk to local trust

[1:50:45] Voice 3: committee to our one we're doing you said it all she said one little thing you're going to

[1:50:50] Voice 3: be writing this level if you would just throw in a comment about summer is coming and that

[1:50:56] Voice 3: there's something about it the child and it

[1:50:58] Voice 3: scares the heck out of me they're right in front of my

[1:51:01] Voice 3: house those kids go straight for it right so it's

[1:51:05] Voice 3: just close enough that they can get to it so i

[1:51:10] Voice 1: mean

[1:51:10] Voice 3: and they're and kids are fascinated by it so this is really interesting

[1:51:14] Voice 3: yes okay i'll send a

[1:51:17] Voice 3: picture yeah perfect

[1:51:19] Voice 5: thank

[1:51:20] Voice 3: you so i'm sending pictures of the guy who's doing all this and

[1:51:26] Voice 3: i don't think we have a closed meeting today yes oh

[1:51:32] Trustee Maude: good do i go because we have to point

[1:51:33] Voice 3: i'll come again you have

[1:51:35] Trustee Maude: to point the secretary to the acc oh

[1:51:37] Voice 3: you know that okay okay this is

[1:51:39] Voice 3: wonderful thank you

[1:51:40] Voice 3: thank you we'll

[1:51:43] Trustee Maude: see you next month

[1:51:43] Voice 3: we'll

[1:51:46] Trustee Maude: bring cake do

[1:51:47] Voice 3: you really know

[1:51:51] Voice 3: okay i'm so sorry i didn't realize

[1:51:54] Voice 3: okay and here we are so uh um

[1:52:00] Trustee Maude: i moved that the meeting be closed to public

[1:52:04] Trustee Maude: accordance with the community charter mark ford division 3 s uh 91 a f the purpose of considering

[1:52:13] Trustee Maude: a personal information about an event identifiable individual who holds or is being considered to

[1:52:18] Trustee Maude: work position as an officer employer agent of the municipality or another position appointed

[1:52:23] Trustee Maude: by the municipality half law enforcement if the council considers that disclosure could

[1:52:30] Trustee Maude: reasonably be expected to harm the conduct of investigation under or enforcement of an

[1:52:36] Trustee Maude: enactment and the recorder and staff attend the meeting okay

[1:52:40] Voice 3: moved and i will second on all those

[1:52:43] Voice 3: in favor we've lost someone but we have four of them so let's turn off the recording and

[1:52:52] Trustee Maude: Well, we have the appointment with the Secretary of the EPCM of that, but it's hard to...

[1:52:56] Voice 4: One moment, please. We're still recording.

[1:53:03] Voice 3: So, we've just come out of a closed meeting. I can rise and report that the Main Island

[1:53:12] Voice 3: Planning Commission...

[1:53:14] Voice 3: Well, the Main

[1:53:15] Voice 3: Island Advisory Planning Commission, thank you, commission has a new secretary.

[1:53:20] Voice 3: We have appointed Carly Bilney to that role, and also that the minutes of March 25th, 2024

[1:53:31] Voice 3: were adopted.

[1:53:34] Voice 3: And so now I will just thankfully state that when is our next meeting?

[1:53:40] Voice 3: June 24th?

[1:53:42] Voice 3: There.

[1:53:42] Voice 3: Next regular meeting is scheduled for June 24th here in this venue, and I thank you all

[1:53:47] Voice 3: for attending.

[1:53:48] Voice 3: All for adjournment.

[1:53:49] Voice 3: All those in favor?

[1:53:51] Voice 3: See you next time, Maine Islanders!

[1:53:54] Voice 3: Thank you, Lisa!

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Mayne Island Local Trust Committee 
Minutes of Regular Meeting 
 
Date:  
Location:  
May 27, 2024 
Mayne Island Agricultural Hall 
430 Fernhill Road, Mayne Island, BC 
 
Members Present: Tobi Elliott, Chair 
 David Maude, Local Trustee 
 Jeanine Dodds, Local Trustee 
  
Staff Present: Narissa Chadwick, Island Planner 
 Lisa Millard, Recorder (electronic) 
  
Others Present: There was one (1) member of the public present. 
 
1. CALL TO ORDER 
Chair Elliott called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m. Chair Elliott acknowledged that the meeting 
was being held in territory of the Coast Salish First Nations. 
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 
The following additions to the agenda were presented for consideration: 
 13.2   Georgina Point Road Construction 
 13.3   Derelict Vessels 
By general consent, the agenda was adopted as amended. 
3. TOWN HALL AND QUESTIONS 
A member of the public made the following comments: 
 Has owned property in the Horton Bay area for over thirty (30) years 
 There are numerous mooring buoys, floats, and derelict vessels in the bay 
 The same person that allowed his boats to sink in the bay now has another boat there 
 This boat was initially tied to the sunken boats, then the owner moved it to a neighbours 
float, and when given notice to vacate the float, it was moved to the neighbours mooring 
buoy 
 This boat is now taking on water and there is concern it will sink 
A Trustee replied with the following comments: 
o Mooring buoys have become a problem throughout British Columbia 
o The jurisdiction to regulate the buoys lies with the federal government 
o Part of the problem is the high expense of removing and disposing of derelict 
boats 
A D O P T E D 

 
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o Action is not taken unless the boats or buoys are deemed a hazard to navigation 
or a risk to public safety 
o The Bylaw Enforcement Officer is aware of the scale of the problem 
o There have been multiple bylaw notices given to remove floats 
4. COMMUNITY INFORMATION MEETING - None 
5. PUBLIC HEARING - None 
6. MINUTES 
6.1 Local Trust Committee Minutes Dated March 25, 2024 (for Adoption) 
By general consent the Mayne Island Local Trust Committee meeting minutes of 
March 25, 2024 were adopted. 
6.2 Section 26 Resolutions-without-meeting Report - None 
6.3 Advisory Planning Commission Minutes - None 
7. BUSINESS ARISING FROM THE MINUTES 
7.1 Follow-up Action List Dated May 2024 
 February 26, 2024 Activity 1 that the Local Trust Committee write a letter to the 
Ministry of Transportation and Infrastructure (MOTI) regarding roadside brush 
clearing can be removed because this concern will be addressed through staff to 
staff taskforce meetings 
 
Discussion ensued regarding the September 25, 2024 Activity 1 Wooddale zoning. 
MA-2024-023 
It was Moved and Seconded, 
that Mayne Island Local Trust Committee request staff to provide a report with 
regard to Wooddale enforcement issues. 
CARRIED 
8. DELEGATIONS - None  
9. CORRESPONDENCE 
Correspondence received concerning current applications or projects is posted to the LTC 
webpage 
10. APPLICATIONS AND REFERRALS - None 
11. LOCAL TRUST COMMITTEE PROJECTS 
11.1 Housing Review Project - Staff Report 
Island Planner Chadwick summarized the Staff Report and highlighted the following: 
 Mayne Island has been working on housing since 2019 and is now moving into the 
second phase of the project 
 The focus has been on how to provide the opportunity for additional small units on 
lots without increasing lot coverage 

 
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 This has resulted in a flexible housing regulation which permits additional units 
within a maximum overall floor area 
 The next phase of the project will allow the Local Trust Committee to look at other 
opportunities to expand flexible housing options 
 
Discussion ensued and the following concepts and considerations were noted: 
 Opportunity to identify land that might be donated to a not-for-profit housing 
society such as Habitat for Humanity 
 Explore land sharing options such as co-ownership and stratas 
 CoHo BC specializes in writing co-ownership agreements 
 Co-ownership, co-housing, land donation, and other options could be a focus of a 
community forum which could be planned to be held in late fall 2024 
 
MA-2024-024 
It was Moved and Seconded, 
that Mayne Island Local Trust Committee endorse the project charter for the 
Mayne Island Housing Options Project Phase 2 as presented at the May 27th, 
2024 Mayne Island LTC regular meeting. 
CARRIED  
MA-2024-025 
It was Moved and Seconded, 
that Mayne Island Local Trust Committee endorse the Mayne Island Housing 
Action Plan as presented at the May 27th, 2024 Mayne Island Local Trust 
Committee regular meeting. 
CARRIED 
MA-2024-026 
It was Moved and Seconded, 
that Mayne Island Local Trust Committee request staff organize a Community 
Information Meeting  in the fall of 2024 to introduce the Housing Action Plan 
and have focussed discussion related to increasing opportunities for the 
development of not for profit housing. 
CARRIED 
11.2 Land Use Bylaw Project - Staff Report 
Island Planner Chadwick summarized the staff report and noted the following: 
 The Local Trust Committee supported not going to a public hearing for Draft Bylaw 
193 as it is not required 
 Referrals have been sent out and most of the replies received to date indicated that 
interests are unaffected 
 
Discussion ensued and Trustees made the following comments: 
 Item 2.16 (d) indicates that the exterior area allowed for the storage of vehicles, 
equipment, and materials may not exceed 350ft
2 
on lots less than 5 acres and this 
seems inadequate based on the lot size and the community can provide feedback 
on this 
 Item 2.16 (b) specifies that vehicles and equipment storage must be screened from 
residential uses on adjoining lots and this should be amended by stating storage 

 
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should be screened from residential uses as this ensures that all views are screened 
including those from the roadway 
 Item 2.16 (f) states that contractor vehicles may be operated on the property from 
8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Monday to Saturday and this should be changed to be the 
same hours of operation that are allowed within the Capital Regional District 
 Site specific regulations for the school board property, S1 (b) show that an accessory 
dwelling unit for the accommodation of school staff is permitted and this should be 
changed to state staff and family 
 It was noted that three (3) letters from the public were received regarding the 
proposed change to housing at the church property and it was clarified that a total 
of sixteen (16) units are still allowed however there is now the possibility for a larger 
makeup of residents in addition to seniors 
 
MA-2024-027 
It was Moved and Seconded, 
that Mayne Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 193 cited as “Mayne Island 
Land Use Bylaw No.146, 2008, Amendment No.1, 2023’ is not contrary or at 
variance with the Islands Trust Policy Statement. 
CARRIED 
12. REPORTS 
12.1 Work Program Reports 
12.1.1 Active Projects Report Dated May 2024 
   Received for information. 
12.1.2 Future Project List Report Dated May 2024 
Updates have been outlined in Item 7.1. 
12.2 Applications Report Dated May 2024  
Island Planner Chadwick stated that the Ministry of Transportation and Infrastructure 
(MOTI) had requested engineered drawings of the retaining wall at 340 Georgina Point 
Road which were received. Then MOTI requested new drawings which were also 
received. MOTI has identified that inadequacies remain. MOTI is working with the 
applicant on the requirements necessary for approval. 
12.3 Trustee and Local Expense Report Dated March 2024 
  Received for information. 
12.4 Adopted Policies and Standing Resolutions 
  Received for information. 
12.5 Local Trust Committee Webpage 
  No changes at this time. 
  

 
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12.6 Chair's Report 
Chair Elliott reported the following: 
 Has attended a number of meetings 
 The Bylaw Enforcement Review Project identified that there will be a policy manual 
developed for each Local Trust Committee which would replace standing resolutions 
 An implementation plan for the Freshwater Balance Project will be presented in the 
fall 
 There will be a Committee of the Whole meeting at the end of May for the purpose 
of discussion on the Islands Trust Draft Policy Statement and this will be followed by 
a public engagement process 
 The Chief Administrative Officer (CAO) Hiring Committee has secured an executive 
search firm for an external search for the next CAO and they have developed an 
interim plan for an internal candidate 
12.7 Trustee Report 
Trustee Dodds reported the follows: 
 Attended a meeting with Capital Regional District staff and did a walkthrough of the 
Glen Echo parkland 
 She attended a meeting at the request of the Mayne Island Conservancy which met 
with Member of Legislative Assembly, Adam Olsen, to discuss a grant they received 
from the Victoria Foundation 
 She attended an online meeting hosted by the Capital Regional District which 
discussed marine issues 
 She attended an online meeting with Ministry of Transportation and Infrastructure 
staff which focused on improving communications with Local Trust Areas 
 
Trustee Maude reported the following: 
 Mayne Island had two substantive community meetings and each of the points that 
came from those meetings were adopted into the Policy Statement 
 There were many stakeholders present at the meeting with the Capital Regional 
District which focussed on marine issues 
 The meeting with the Ministry of Transportation and Infrastructure allowed for an 
informal communication protocol to be established 
12.8 Electoral Area Director's Report - none 
12.9 Islands Trust Conservancy Report Date April 2024 
  Received for information. 
13. NEW BUSINESS 
13.1 2023/24 Annual Report - Request for Decision 
The following amendments are to be made to the Mayne Island section of the 2023/24 
Annual Report: 
1. Change the first sentence to “The Mayne Island Local Trust Area comprises Mayne 
Island and twenty associated islands including Curlew and Georgeson Islands.” 

 
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2. Change the second sentence to “The Mayne Island Local Trust Area is located within 
the territory of many First Nations whose peoples have cared for these lands and 
waters since time immemorial.” 
3. Add to the following sentence to the end of the third paragraph: The fallow deer 
introduced to Mayne Island continue to impact the ecosystem and devastate the 
understory. 
MA-2024-028 
It was Moved and Seconded, 
that Mayne Island Local Trust Committee approves the attached text as 
amended for inclusion in the 2023/24 Annual Report for approval by Trust 
Council and submission to the Minister of Municipal Affairs. 
CARRIED 
 
13.2 Georgina Point Road Construction 
 
 Discussion ensued. 
 
MA-2024-029 
It was Moved and Seconded, 
that Mayne Island Local Trust Committee draft a letter to the Ministry of 
Transportation and Infrastructure, and the property owner of 340 Georgina 
Point Road, expressing grave concerns regarding safety and slope stability of the 
property. 
CARRIED 
 
13.3 Derelict Vessels 
 
 Discussion ensued. 
 
MA-2024-030 
It was Moved and Seconded, 
that Mayne Island Local Trust Committee write to Member of Parliament 
Elizabeth May and Member of Legislative Assembly Adam Olsen to express 
concern over the handling of derelict boats becoming navigation hazards and 
the matter of public safety in Horton Bay. 
CARRIED 
14. UPCOMING MEETINGS 
14.1 Next Regular Meeting Scheduled for June 24, 2024 at the Agricultural Hall, Mayne 
Island 
15. TOWN HALL  
A member of the public stated that the derelict and sunken boats in Horton Bay are of great 
interest to children in the neighbourhood and therefore there is concern for public safety. 
  

 
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16. CLOSED MEETING 
16.1 Motion to Close the Meeting 
MA-2024-031 
It was Moved and Seconded, 
that the meeting be closed to the public in accordance with the Community 
Charter, Part 4, Division 3, s. 90(1)(a)(f) for the purpose of considering: 
(a) personal information about an identifiable individual who holds or is being 
considered for a position as an officer, employee or agent of the municipality or 
another position appointed by the municipality; 
(f) law enforcement, if the council considers that disclosure could reasonably be 
expected to harm the conduct of an investigation under or enforcement of an 
enactment; 
AND that the recorder and staff attend the meeting. 
CARRIED 
The regular meeting was recessed at 3:23 pm and reconvened at 3:34 pm. 
16.2 Recall to Order  
16.3 Rise and Report  
Chair Elliott reported that Carly Bilney has been appointed as Secretary of the Mayne 
Island Advisory Planning Commission and that the in camera minutes of March 25, 2024 
were adopted. 
17. ADJOURNMENT 
By general consent the meeting was adjourned at 3:35 p.m. 
 
 
_________________________ 
Tobi Elliott, Chair 
 
Certified Correct: 
 
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Lisa Millard, Recorder