Hornby Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, March 20, 2026

[0:00:00] Voice 17: um so i'd like to call them so let's call the meeting recorder

[0:00:10] Trustee Peterson (probable): okay i like to call this uh regular meeting in the hornby island local trust committee

[0:00:17] Trustee Peterson (probable): to order and i want to begin the meeting by acknowledging that we're fortunate to be able

[0:00:21] Trustee Peterson (probable): to gather today in locations across the territory of coast salish peoples and we respectfully

[0:00:29] Trustee Peterson (probable): respectfully acknowledge that Hornby Island

[0:00:30] Trustee Peterson (probable): is in the unceded traditional territory

[0:00:33] Trustee Peterson (probable): of the Comox First Nation,

[0:00:34] Trustee Peterson (probable): the traditional keepers of this land.

[0:00:38] Trustee Peterson (probable): My name is Tim Peterson.

[0:00:40] Trustee Peterson (probable): I am elected on Hornby Island

[0:00:42] Trustee Peterson (probable): and I'm the chair of the Hornby Local Trust Committee.

[0:00:46] Trustee Peterson (probable): With me today is Hornby Island local trustee Grant Scott.

[0:00:51] Trustee Peterson (probable): Trustee Allen is joining us virtually,

[0:00:54] Trustee Peterson (probable): not feeling well and not wanting to share that with all.

[0:00:57] Trustee Peterson (probable): and um knowledge our staff here as well our regional planning manager renee jamrat's here

[0:01:05] Trustee Peterson (probable): with us online our uh meeting administrator lisa millard and uh rob people will be joining us for

[0:01:13] Trustee Peterson (probable): one of the pieces here as well as director of legislative services daily mar marler and

[0:01:21] Trustee Peterson (probable): And Warren Dingman, our bylaw manager.

[0:01:27] Voice 10: Oh,

[0:01:28] Trustee Peterson (probable): and Planner Cox is here as well.

[0:01:29] Trustee Peterson (probable): Okay, great.

[0:01:30] Trustee Peterson (probable): Thank you for those notes.

[0:01:33] Trustee Peterson (probable): So we do have an agenda before us.

[0:01:38] Trustee Peterson (probable): I'll just check in and make sure that our online participants are able to hear.

[0:01:45] Trustee Peterson (probable): And we're able to hear them.

[0:01:47] Trustee Peterson (probable): Trustee Allen, can you just give us a mic check, please?

[0:01:52] Trustee Peterson (probable): Okay, great. We can hear you. So trustees, we have an agenda before us, and I want to

[0:01:58] Trustee Peterson (probable): see if there are any changes desired to the agenda today.

[0:02:04] Voice 7: No.

[0:02:06] Trustee Peterson (probable): Not hearing any, we will approve the agenda by general consent. And to start out with,

[0:02:14] Trustee Peterson (probable): we have trustee reports. I'll start with Trustee Allen online.

[0:02:19] Trustee Peterson (probable): line well

[0:02:21] Voice 19: my trusty report is sinus headache plugged ears runny nose phlegmy cough sore throat

[0:02:27] Voice 19: chills and mouth flush um i apologize that i'm not here in person this is my third week today

[0:02:36] Voice 19: it's just a miserable cold and flu and um i just don't want to spread it with anybody so

[0:02:41] Voice 19: i apologize thanks well

[0:02:46] Trustee Peterson (probable): thank you trusty allen i hope you feel better soon uh trusty scott

[0:02:51] Trustee Peterson (probable): thank

[0:02:52] Voice 7: you so um as everybody in this room knows there's two critical issues being discussed today

[0:03:00] Voice 7: and some resolution hopefully which is on the short-term rentals and also the issue of um

[0:03:07] Voice 7: the olsen farm for the festival and the um ball fair that's an issue

[0:03:13] Voice 6: sorry

[0:03:15] Voice 7: can you not hear me

[0:03:30] Voice 7: can you hear me now there are two yeah there's two main issues here for me today one is the

[0:03:45] Voice 7: short-term rentals hopefully we can get some resolution to that and there's also the issue

[0:03:49] Voice 7: of Olsen Farm, Rose New York Farm,

[0:03:53] Voice 7: so that we can make sure that the summer festival

[0:03:56] Voice 7: and the fall fair can happen this year

[0:03:59] Voice 7: be a total tragedy to a lot of people on the island,

[0:04:02] Voice 7: a lot of businesses that we rely on.

[0:04:05] Voice 7: So hopefully we can get resolution for that as well.

[0:04:08] Voice 7: We've got Yerger here, he's very keen

[0:04:10] Voice 7: on getting some resolution there as well.

[0:04:12] Voice 7: So we'll

[0:04:13] Voice 17: just leave it there, Tim.

[0:04:15] Voice 7: By the way, you were elected on Mesquite, weren't we?

[0:04:18] Voice 17: i

[0:04:18] Trustee Peterson (probable): thought i said i was elected on the scheme

[0:04:21] Trustee Peterson (probable): anyway uh okay so for my chair's report uh don't go on too long uh trust council uh met uh

[0:04:34] Trustee Peterson (probable): jesus was it only last week yes it was last week uh for our quarterly meeting focused uh as usually

[0:04:41] Trustee Peterson (probable): remark meetings are on the budget um quite a lot of wrangling uh we still ended up with a

[0:04:49] Trustee Peterson (probable): fairly substantial um uh budget in a tax increase um and despite the alarming looking numbers i did

[0:05:01] Trustee Peterson (probable): get from staff that the estimate is it's really going to translate on the uh average property

[0:05:09] Trustee Peterson (probable): across the trust area is valued at eight hundred and sixty seven thousand dollars

[0:05:15] Trustee Peterson (probable): and this budget is going to have an impact estimated between 20 and 40 dollars

[0:05:21] Trustee Peterson (probable): for a property of that value um and then as the ongoing policy statement uh review project staff

[0:05:33] Trustee Peterson (probable): identified um it's unrealistic to expect that we will complete the project before the end of the

[0:05:40] Trustee Peterson (probable): term at this point and there's a large number of public responses and those will still be compiled

[0:05:46] Trustee Peterson (probable): and analyzed as well as responses from the local trust committees first nations and the other

[0:05:51] Trustee Peterson (probable): agencies with which we work work is expected to continue to organize those responses and further

[0:05:57] Trustee Peterson (probable): consideration by trust council but it is no longer deemed realistic that that project will get

[0:06:05] Trustee Peterson (probable): completed before the end of term uh so i'm gonna just cut my um remarks short there so i don't want

[0:06:14] Trustee Peterson (probable): to go too long don't believe we have the electoral area director joining us today um so we have a

[0:06:24] Trustee Peterson (probable): public comment period coming up here and um we have a busy meeting and uh only so much time

[0:06:33] Trustee Peterson (probable): so uh by the meeting procedures bylaw we have a 15 minute window for public comments

[0:06:39] Trustee Peterson (probable): um and just explain to you if uh trustees wish after that 15 minutes it's up to pass a motion to

[0:06:47] Trustee Peterson (probable): extend that period of time then that can happen and if a motion isn't passed then we we just move

[0:06:52] Trustee Peterson (probable): on into the uh the rest of the agenda so with that in mind um and we have received many many

[0:07:02] Trustee Peterson (probable): many emails over the last week and heard a lot of folks at our last meeting so uh i'd like to

[0:07:10] Trustee Peterson (probable): request that um folks wanting to address the local trust committee at this point

[0:07:16] Trustee Peterson (probable): uh for one i'll pass the mic around but also um that you do your best to provide us with

[0:07:23] Trustee Peterson (probable): um new information um that we or new new insights um as much as possible and uh and we all know that

[0:07:35] Trustee Peterson (probable): short-term vacation rental is top of mind for probably i'm going to guess most of you in the

[0:07:40] Trustee Peterson (probable): room um but also if there is a comment on um the central road application uh then we'd also like

[0:07:49] Trustee Peterson (probable): to hear that so just wanted to preface by saying we know our time is short so i still want to give

[0:07:56] Trustee Peterson (probable): you guys a space but if we give everyone three minutes we won't get out of here um in a reasonable

[0:08:02] Trustee Peterson (probable): time today so i'm not going to presuppose whether trustees want to give a long public period or not

[0:08:08] Trustee Peterson (probable): but i'm just going to stay out front it may not be long there may not be time for everybody so

[0:08:13] Trustee Peterson (probable): So let's look for a show of hands, people who would like to share something today.

[0:08:19] Trustee Peterson (probable): Sure.

[0:08:20] Trustee Peterson (probable): So just pick one side, I think, and start there.

[0:08:24] Trustee Peterson (probable): And I'm going to be, because in the interest of time, I'm going to be timing people for three minutes today.

[0:08:29] Trustee Peterson (probable): So if you hear my alarm go off, please just conclude.

[0:08:36] Trustee Peterson (probable): And if you could also state your name, that's helpful too.

[0:08:42] Trustee Peterson (probable): Be respectful, concise to the point.

[0:08:45] Trustee Peterson (probable): Stick the issues on our agenda if at all possible.

[0:08:49] Trustee Peterson (probable): I think that covers most of it. Go ahead.

[0:08:51] Voice 23: Yeah, I'm Luke Fanger. I've been coming to Hornby for 49 years.

[0:08:55] Voice 23: I have to maintain my summer place I've rented to friends over those 49 years.

[0:09:03] Voice 23: And I am concerned that short-term vacation rentals are not permitted in the winter months.

[0:09:09] Voice 23: and I think measures contribute to the economy of the island

[0:09:14] Voice 23: and I'm not sure why non-residents are being prohibited

[0:09:21] Voice 23: from or discriminated against and can no longer rent

[0:09:26] Voice 23: if this goes through as proposed.

[0:09:29] Voice 23: And the final question is if there's a firm cap is set

[0:09:33] Voice 23: on short-term vacation rentals on Hornby,

[0:09:35] Voice 23: what is the selection process

[0:09:37] Voice 23: process if the applicants which meet all the criteria for temporary use permits are received.

[0:09:45] Voice 23: So that's unclear to me. So I'm hoping to continue my rentals and looking for support

[0:09:55] Voice 23: to do that.

[0:09:58] Voice 23: Thank you.

[0:10:05] Voice 24: Ian Thomson, on short-term rentals, assuming a number of 135 and a total housing stock

[0:10:12] Voice 24: stock of 700, that represents almost 20% of the total housing stock. Quite an interesting

[0:10:18] Voice 24: number. In terms of the number of rental units versus total population, permanent population

[0:10:27] Voice 24: it works at about 1 in 10, 1 in 9, 1 in 10, which is quite an impact on the community

[0:10:34] Voice 24: when you think in terms of a constantly rotating neighbourhood.

[0:10:40] Voice 24: Now, 130-odd rental units, the stewards of this are the trustees.

[0:10:50] Voice 24: The trustees are supposed to represent the interests of the entire population of the island.

[0:10:56] Voice 24: The short-term rental unit population represents a very small part of that.

[0:11:01] Voice 24: I urge the trustees to understand that they are responsible for the whole of the population

[0:11:09] Voice 24: and not just a vocal minority.

[0:11:15] Voice 21: Hello, folks. My name is Ian Bowen. I'll do this very quick.

[0:11:18] Voice 21: I would like you to reconsider the permanent residence requirement.

[0:11:23] Voice 21: We have been here since 68, coming up every year.

[0:11:27] Voice 21: And I think that the future consequences for the young people of Hornby Island are severe.

[0:11:32] Voice 21: year if you put on a permanent residence requirement um the 2021 census had 41 percent

[0:11:39] Voice 21: i believe of the island residences having permanent residents and so that has all sorts

[0:11:48] Voice 21: of implications i mean if you want to be i don't uh anyway that's that's that's my only comment

[0:11:53] Voice 21: i'm going to pass it on to other people i would like you to reconsider that and uh not restrict

[0:12:02] Voice 21: The nature of Point B Island and that percentage is extremely different from all the islands

[0:12:07] Voice 21: where 75% of them are permanent residents and so on.

[0:12:11] Voice 21: And so that's inappropriate, we're going to have negative consequences for the economy

[0:12:16] Voice 21: and young people can't just look at it from the seniors perspective, you know, the quiet

[0:12:20] Voice 21: island.

[0:12:29] Voice 22: Greg's here. I have a connection to Hornby going back 40 years, so I've been here as a kid, teen, a young man, and now a dad.

[0:12:42] Voice 22: I love this island. I'm not a resident, but I love it. My kids love it. We come here as much as we can, enjoy it.

[0:12:51] Voice 22: I'm not a resident of this island, but I feel I'm a part of the community of this island.

[0:12:58] Voice 22: And I urge the trustees to consider those of us that are part of the community.

[0:13:05] Voice 22: And I know it's hard to build consensus, but I urge you to do the hard work.

[0:13:11] Voice 22: It feels like, from what I understand, it's been close to reaching consensus.

[0:13:15] Voice 22: census please represent the entire community and look out for those of us that have connection

[0:13:24] Voice 22: to the island but who rely on shorter rentals to keep it in the family and thank you for the hard

[0:13:32] Voice 22: work you do and yeah that's my perspective good

[0:13:45] Voice 12: afternoon or good morning um i just want to

[0:13:48] Voice 12: before i start correct a couple things there are 1117 as of 2021 buildings on the island

[0:13:53] Voice 12: 41 which are part-time residents um and vacation rentals represent less than 10 percent of the um

[0:14:02] Voice 12: of the population coming to the island in the summer um now sorry i'll start and i am going

[0:14:10] Voice 12: to try and keep an eye on you um my mom dedicated her life to creating our home here the idea that

[0:14:16] Voice 12: a material decision may give them an independent assessment of this impact the course is heartbreaking

[0:14:23] Voice 12: cornby is the only island where vacation rentals are illegal property use we are unique most

[0:14:30] Voice 12: members of our communities now face irrevocable harm we can't just see what happens most of our

[0:14:37] Voice 12: families won't survive and experiment with our livelihoods

[0:14:41] Voice 11: the amenities successfully

[0:14:42] Voice 11: are sworn to secure and protect, encompass the responsibility

[0:14:47] Voice 11: to

[0:14:50] Voice 12: protect the lives of the people who made this island work,

[0:14:54] Voice 12: regardless of their residency.

[0:14:56] Voice 12: These changes will harm the families who are excluded,

[0:15:01] Voice 12: the full-time residents who maintain these properties,

[0:15:04] Voice 12: the artists who depend on the summer economy and the local businesses

[0:15:07] Voice 12: trying to keep their doors open year round.

[0:15:10] Voice 12: The problem explicitly excluded the Island's Trust from the permanent resident requirement.

[0:15:18] Voice 12: For our trustees to think about it now with no independent information to determine the impact

[0:15:24] Voice 12: creates a discriminatory barrier against the 41% of women who are part-time residents.

[0:15:31] Voice 12: Almost everyone agrees that 162 in 2018, the number of rentals had grown far too much.

[0:15:38] Voice 12: Today there are between 80 and 100. That is a 40 to 50 percent reduction in eight years.

[0:15:52] Voice 12: An Ireland's first staff report from 2012 determined 80 to 100 is a contained and

[0:15:59] Voice 12: compatible number for Hornaby's rural character. What is the rationale that has changed that

[0:16:05] Voice 12: assessment. Where is the independent analysis that supports either a permanent resident

[0:16:10] Voice 12: requirement or a cap below that baseline? By forcing a cap of 65 for the permanent resident

[0:16:17] Voice 12: requirement, the LTC is effectively closing the door on the merits of neighbors who have

[0:16:22] Voice 12: been compliant for decades. While good regulations

[0:16:34] Voice 12: will improve our rentals, penalizing local

[0:16:50] Voice 12: I ask the LTC to acknowledge that with a 40 to 50% reduction, growth has not just been

[0:16:58] Voice 12: contained, it has been reversed.

[0:17:01] Voice 12: That at less

[0:17:02] Voice 12: than 10% of the summer population, rentals are too small a proportion for more

[0:17:07] Voice 12: cuts to have a noticeable impact on ferry weights or water usage. Just because they aren't printed

[0:17:12] Voice 12: does not mean they will be empty. Based today's decision on the objective history of this island,

[0:17:20] Voice 12: 80 to 100 rentals offered by all categories of residents remain a contained and compatible

[0:17:26] Voice 12: number. I urge the LTC to remove the permanent resident requirement and set a cap based on the

[0:17:32] Voice 12: actual number of legal compliant vacation rentals please choose a path of alignment over division

[0:17:47] Trustee Peterson (probable): folks i'm i neglected to remind you at the beginning neither applause nor jeers or

[0:17:55] Trustee Peterson (probable): booze are welcome so i i totally get that you may be uh in alignment with the sentiments you heard

[0:18:02] Trustee Peterson (probable): but we want to create a space where everyone feels comfortable to speak their opinion no

[0:18:06] Trustee Peterson (probable): matter whether that is yours or not so please refrain from clapping or booing and let's just

[0:18:13] Trustee Peterson (probable): move this along thank you i

[0:18:18] Voice 3: am great from a rate area um i'd like to start out by first of all

[0:18:24] Voice 3: saying it's a very important topic very important a little while ago a few months ago a number of

[0:18:32] Voice 3: months ago there was a very important thought that came up and the island's trustees said

[0:18:38] Voice 3: we're going to let you talk as long as you want to talk because it's very important

[0:18:43] Voice 3: um what i'm hearing now is hey you've heard enough that you haven't because nothing's

[0:18:49] Voice 3: changed in four years four years ago when you were asked why are you doing this is because

[0:18:55] Voice 3: the fairies overloaded the sewers the water today last meeting what did we hear the fairies the

[0:19:06] Voice 3: the water, the sewer, right?

[0:19:09] Voice 3: So you've heard nothing else.

[0:19:10] Voice 3: You haven't heard what's,

[0:19:11] Voice 3: you haven't taken into account what has been done,

[0:19:14] Voice 3: what people are trying to do,

[0:19:16] Voice 3: how we're trying to get control of it,

[0:19:18] Voice 3: and the weight difference that we're making.

[0:19:20] Voice 3: Not hearing that, you don't want to hear it.

[0:19:22] Voice 3: You have a decision, you've made it up,

[0:19:24] Voice 3: or made a decision, and you're just saying,

[0:19:27] Voice 3: let's just push through and let's get this done, all right?

[0:19:30] Voice 3: um i i feel bad i feel bad for my cleaners because i was just talking to one this morning

[0:19:38] Voice 3: and they're saying well go after this year there's probably going to be no work for them

[0:19:43] Voice 3: i feel bad for my clients i feel bad for the people every house has a story i tell every

[0:19:49] Voice 3: guest that comes here the story of each of the houses

[0:19:52] Voice 3: this

[0:19:52] Voice 10: um

[0:19:54] Voice 3: i think we've got a lot of control on it i think we're doing a good job nobody has ever

[0:20:02] Voice 3: told us for my own stress that we are doing a good job but we are helping because they don't

[0:20:07] Voice 3: want to hear it right i think you need to look at the whole picture not listen to the vocal majority

[0:20:15] Voice 3: minority sorry thank you vocal

[0:20:17] Voice 10: minority i don't listen

[0:20:19] Voice 3: to them like listen to everybody on the

[0:20:21] Voice 3: island because i can tell you most of us here feel that you haven't heard a thing that would set

[0:20:29] Voice 3: not a thing thank you hi

[0:20:37] Voice 9: my name is sean peterson and i'm just gonna make a comment on the process

[0:20:41] Voice 9: because i have never seen a process that is so flawed as this one has been it is there's i think

[0:20:48] Voice 9: i i don't know i

[0:20:49] Voice 9: think you know all of these types of uh assertions and it's the most subjective

[0:20:54] Voice 9: process I've ever seen. There's nothing objective that speaks to this. This should be set aside

[0:21:00] Voice 9: for now until a new council has been elected and a process is put in place to put the right

[0:21:07] Voice 9: information in front of everyone so decisions can be made. There is nothing that speaks to

[0:21:13] Voice 9: this change so far. It needs to be set aside and you need to wait until we have a process that

[0:21:19] Voice 9: accommodates everyone's needs and an understanding of what's truly happening on the island. Because

[0:21:23] Voice 9: can tell you fixing eight percent of the septic fields doesn't fix the second problem on this

[0:21:27] Voice 9: island last two two sessions ago if it is causing a water problem on this island we need to deal

[0:21:34] Voice 9: with that as an island not not eight percent so anyways um set it aside uh wait for another day

[0:21:41] Voice 9: hi

[0:21:48] Voice 18: my name is ariane baxter um i've been coming up for about 40 years now

[0:21:52] Voice 18: um originally we had a place on the island and for probably 30 years we rented short rental

[0:21:59] Voice 18: And that allowed them to keep coming.

[0:22:02] Voice 18: Sorry, it's so glitchy.

[0:22:03] Voice 18: That's me and a mic.

[0:22:05] Voice 18: You know, and I guess now we're going to place it again.

[0:22:08] Voice 18: But we're not permanent residents.

[0:22:10] Voice 18: We are partner residents.

[0:22:11] Voice 18: And we do rent our house out, and that's how we keep it.

[0:22:15] Voice 18: I just want to speak to the fact that my family wouldn't have had a chance to love the island the way we do if we couldn't have rented during all those times.

[0:22:23] Voice 18: And if you had limited the access to that sort of rentals.

[0:22:26] Voice 18: you know we became really good friends with the people we stayed with and it was magic so and then

[0:22:32] Voice 18: back to your original process four years ago you were trying to just cap the 130 by taking it away

[0:22:37] Voice 18: but then the provincial government threw you a really good curveball with their um removing the

[0:22:43] Voice 18: grandfathering like you had a good plan and you were letting it go away by attrition you were

[0:22:48] Voice 18: going to disallow it but the provincial government threw you a curveball and so as far as the last

[0:22:54] Voice 18: meeting on the 3rd, I just think

[0:22:56] Voice 18: I don't, like other people

[0:22:59] Voice 18: I think your cap of 65 is

[0:23:00] Voice 18: a random number, you're

[0:23:03] Voice 18: not even listening to your own staff that found

[0:23:04] Voice 18: me 87, you know, did the data research

[0:23:06] Voice 18: on how many are

[0:23:08] Voice 18: registered with the provincial government and are trying

[0:23:10] Voice 18: to do it right, so I think I'd really

[0:23:12] Voice 18: encourage you to re-look at your cap

[0:23:14] Voice 18: if this is the post-issue going, and I would

[0:23:16] Voice 18: really encourage you to look at what

[0:23:18] Voice 18: principal resident means

[0:23:20] Voice 18: you're throwing around different terms

[0:23:23] Voice 18: and whether you're going to go with what the province is doing you need to look at that

[0:23:27] Voice 18: seriously if you look at what tofino struggling with they're trying to pull back out and if you

[0:23:32] Voice 18: are trying to support some young people here who might rent or other families who then could maybe

[0:23:36] Voice 18: rent out in the summer like go away rent their home out they won't be considered principal

[0:23:41] Voice 18: residents if they just rent here so you really need to look at what that does because that's

[0:23:46] Voice 18: what tofino has experienced so if you consider opting into the province you really need to take

[0:23:51] Voice 18: some time to look at what that means um and you need to get your terminology principal residence

[0:23:57] Voice 18: is a very different meaning than permanent resident which is a very different mean the

[0:24:01] Voice 18: primary business so i just really encourage you to do your homework you have a fabulous staff

[0:24:06] Voice 18: so please ask them for their help and i also just really appreciate that you're not in your

[0:24:11] Voice 18: very difficult so thank you for your time on it okay

[0:24:15] Voice 5: i

[0:24:21] Trustee Peterson (probable): just want to note that we are at

[0:24:24] Trustee Peterson (probable): for 15 minutes now um so trustees uh i saw there was definitely some

[0:24:30] Voice 17: more hands up we would go for

[0:24:32] Voice 17: another 10 minutes yes

[0:24:36] Voice 19: okay

[0:24:39] Trustee Peterson (probable): yes okay so we're going to go 10 more minutes um

[0:24:44] Voice 6: michelle easterly

[0:24:45] Voice 6: i've been here for eight years i've been renting since 1991 is how i make my living

[0:24:50] Voice 6: After I did massage therapy, I couldn't do any more.

[0:24:54] Voice 6: I am a permanent or principal, whatever you want to call me, resident.

[0:24:59] Voice 6: I've been awake for nights just suffering that people that I love here

[0:25:06] Voice 6: that are not principal residents or permanent residents,

[0:25:11] Voice 6: that are volunteers that come to this island and do so much in the summer,

[0:25:15] Voice 6: that you will cut off their way of being here and having their homes.

[0:25:22] Voice 6: I beg you, please, to not leave out all these people

[0:25:27] Voice 6: who are part of our island for years and years.

[0:25:30] Voice 6: I can look around this room.

[0:25:32] Voice 6: I love these people, and they're very important to me,

[0:25:36] Voice 6: and I'm upset that you would discriminate against them.

[0:25:39] Voice 6: I'm a permanent resident.

[0:25:41] Voice 6: It doesn't affect me.

[0:25:41] Voice 6: I can still keep doing this, but I don't want to do it

[0:25:44] Voice 6: if you leave them out.

[0:25:46] Voice 6: thank you my

[0:25:56] Voice 11: name is janice um i'd like to address the permanent

[0:25:59] Voice 11: and

[0:26:01] Voice 12: families who

[0:26:03] Voice 11: inherit property

[0:26:05] Voice 12: which my children were being affected by

[0:26:10] Voice 12: my kids

[0:26:11] Voice 11: were born here they were raised here they have deep connections to the island and

[0:26:16] Voice 11: my grandchildren also love coming to halloween i'm

[0:26:21] Voice 12: just working on a small statement families

[0:26:23] Voice 12: Families who inherit property are particularly impacted by restrictive policies.

[0:26:28] Voice 12: Many non-homes or multi-generational properties

[0:26:30] Voice 11: pass down from long-term residents.

[0:26:33] Voice 11: Heirs may be lucky enough to be in a final

[0:26:36] Voice 12: or caretaker's spot if they yet wish to retain their family home.

[0:26:40] Voice 12: Without the ability to offset costs for lending to church and libraries, many families are forced to sell.

[0:26:46] Voice 12: this results in the permanent loss of family health homes and accelerates the tracks of

[0:26:51] Voice 12: profits for wealthier buyers outcomes that do not support community on community thank you

[0:26:59] Voice 12: thank

[0:27:01] Voice 5: you

[0:27:03] Voice 10: for that segue uh my name

[0:27:04] Voice 17: is marshall uh i represent six families who have inherited

[0:27:08] Voice 17: property uh on hornby the uh the original owners are grandparents uh purchased in 1958.

[0:27:15] Voice 17: So there's

[0:27:16] Voice 15: a lot of

[0:27:17] Voice 17: generational issues with quantity, and through those generations we've been committed to understanding that there's a balance between economic sustainability and resource management, which is very difficult for me.

[0:27:28] Voice 17: And we've been very committed to that. We're concerned about the rental bylaws as they were proposed, because they were forces to sell.

[0:27:37] And

[0:27:38] Voice 17: the like, and I really understand why they were created. They were created to have more housing options for all of them.

[0:27:43] Voice 17: but that's not in our case if we were to sell our property it would go to another non-residential

[0:27:48] Voice 17: owner and that owner would like to cut the trees in our property build a big house with fun lights

[0:27:54] Voice 17: and park their yacht or maybe another one of the things they would change the demographics

[0:27:59] Voice 17: in addition we don't know what values these this new demographics may bring they may

[0:28:07] Voice 17: a new owner may bring an unlimited amount of guests

[0:28:10] Voice 17: in the summer.

[0:28:11] Voice 17: What do they

[0:28:12] Voice 3: use it as an investment property?

[0:28:14] Voice 3: We don't know.

[0:28:15] Voice 3: What I do know is everyone here shares

[0:28:18] Voice 8: the same values

[0:28:19] Voice 8: and vision for Hornby, whether it be resident

[0:28:22] Voice 8: or non-resident.

[0:28:24] Voice 8: My ask is the trustees don't exclude non-residential owners

[0:28:28] Voice 24: in their decision, that

[0:28:30] Voice 8: they should take us into account

[0:28:33] Voice 8: because we share the values and vision

[0:28:35] Voice 8: and for having a sustainable that we're all on because

[0:28:46] Voice 14: i'm speaking to 9.1

[0:29:00] Voice 14: and not the item that everyone else is this is the

[0:29:04] Voice 4: time this is the time yes

[0:29:12] Voice 14: because i think i'm the only person speaking to this today i'm hoping that you will allow me to

[0:29:17] Voice 14: speak just a little bit longer i'm deirdre atkinson i'm the artistic director of the

[0:29:21] Voice 14: hornby festival and i'm the designated primary contact for item 9.1 on the agenda today

[0:29:27] Voice 14: okay

[0:29:28] Trustee Peterson (probable): are you the applicant yes i'm the primary contact

[0:29:31] Trustee Peterson (probable): you're the primary contact so you would

[0:29:33] Trustee Peterson (probable): actually have an opportunity to speak during the application great thank

[0:29:36] Voice 11: you yes

[0:29:38] Trustee Peterson (probable): yes

[0:29:40] Voice 11: hi

[0:29:46] Voice 15: my name is

[0:29:47] Voice 15: chris um what i don't get is that given the position i mean hornby doesn't just belong to

[0:29:53] Voice 15: people who live here and definitely not a small local minority but it belongs to everybody in

[0:30:00] Voice 15: in everybody in canada and given that the government is facing what 12 gazillion dollar

[0:30:06] Voice 15: debt and is shifting towards tourism as a sustainable industry um that that appears that

[0:30:14] Voice 15: the tourism side of it wants to be cut off and i think that whatever the concerns are if it's

[0:30:22] Voice 15: too much noise too much traffic or environmental concerns then they can be addressed in other ways

[0:30:28] Voice 15: by raising the bar on the type of visitor that we have here and such as Norway's done for its

[0:30:35] Voice 15: visitors so I really don't understand why such a narrow focus and solution to perceived problems

[0:30:44] Voice 15: is not being addressed in a in a more complete way and the Islands Trust is uh I don't just

[0:30:52] Voice 15: seems to be living in its focus thanks karen

[0:30:59] Voice 20: ross i'm speaking on behalf of pisces the organization

[0:31:04] Voice 20: that administers the mrdt program and supports economic development on hornby i'm going to cut

[0:31:11] Voice 20: this really short i actually have three pages um approximately 60 percent of mrdt revenues

[0:31:18] Voice 20: on hornby are directed towards workforce housing and over the past four years approximately 250

[0:31:24] Voice 20: $550,000 that's been accumulated in a dedicated affordable workforce housing reserve.

[0:31:41] Voice 20: Hi-SEEC recognizes that balancing housing needs and economic vitality is complex.

[0:31:48] Voice 20: Our intention is to ensure that the relationship between legally operating accommodation providers,

[0:31:55] Voice 20: workforce housing, and the funding that supports these initiatives is clearly understood and that

[0:32:02] Voice 20: the implications for mrdt supported programs are carefully considered before making any decisions

[0:32:10] Voice 20: moving forward tim i apologize but i actually have a second submission um again i will be brief

[0:32:20] Voice 20: uh through the chair i seek respectfully request that the local trust committee provide its support

[0:32:26] Voice 20: for the affordable workforce housing initiative currently underway on hornby island including

[0:32:33] Voice 20: including reconsideration of a letter of support for securing tenure on the proposed Crown land site.

[0:32:40] Voice 20: In the January 23rd meeting minutes, the request for a letter of support was defeated.

[0:32:49] Voice 20: Things have moved along since then.

[0:32:52] Voice 20: We would like to put that back on the table, the request for support.

[0:32:55] Voice 20: We also know that public use a zoning has not been fixed. Former trustee Tony Law identified it clearly as an oversight in one of the rewrites of the zoning bylaw that community housing was dropped from that PUA zoning.

[0:33:15] Voice 20: zoning and so we are here today with a call to action for the trust the first being write a

[0:33:24] Voice 20: letter of support for the affordable workforce housing initiative and crown land tenure request

[0:33:29] Voice 20: we are working with the cbrd and believe that project could move forward and we need the

[0:33:35] Voice 20: endorsement of our local zoning authority the second is to fast track the pua zoning

[0:33:41] Voice 20: zoning, the by-law correction, and reinstate community housing as an allowable use.

[0:33:46] Voice 20: This will require the trustees taking that section out of the proposed by-law amendments

[0:33:54] Voice 20: and fast-tracking it and leaving the SDVR controversy as a separate issue.

[0:34:00] Voice 20: We've been three and a half years waiting for this correction to be undertaken.

[0:34:05] Voice 20: You have the ability to take it out and fast-track it, give a third reading today,

[0:34:11] Voice 20: and get it done we ask you please to do that thank you

[0:34:17] Trustee Peterson (probable): okay thank you and i'm yeah i'm gonna

[0:34:23] Trustee Peterson (probable): we're on time so i'll give you you will have to be the last speaker until we have a lot thank you

[0:34:28] Voice 8: very much um john grayson i'm vice chair of the icy organization um but i'm also a short-term

[0:34:37] Voice 8: vacation rental owner the potential negative impact on warming by this initiative

[0:34:47] Voice 8: is potentially disruptive and very dangerous i would recommend that the trustees shall

[0:34:58] Voice 8: this particular initiative leave it for the next island's trust council and as well for the

[0:35:05] Voice 8: plan is to start hiring professionals that know about how to get logical,

[0:35:14] Voice 8: provable implementation proposals on how to keep this community economically, socially,

[0:35:23] Voice 8: and spiritually healthy. We are laying with fire here. We need to keep this community

[0:35:31] Voice 8: the in the state of gravity thank you uh

[0:35:42] Trustee Peterson (probable): okay thank you everybody and i really appreciate

[0:35:45] Trustee Peterson (probable): um your brevity that's very helpful uh and so i just want to recognize this it's not

[0:35:52] Trustee Peterson (probable): if you're made to speak for three minutes it's sometimes hard but

[0:35:56] Trustee Peterson (probable): actually condensing is difficult too so appreciate that um we're going to move on so our next section

[0:36:02] Trustee Peterson (probable): is uh consideration of the local trust committee made it minute meeting minutes of january 23rd

[0:36:09] Trustee Peterson (probable): elected trustees are there any

[0:36:11] Trustee Peterson (probable): amendments required for those minutes no

[0:36:15] Voice 5: no

[0:36:16] Trustee Peterson (probable): not hearing any we'll uh

[0:36:18] Trustee Peterson (probable): adopt those by general consent and then similarly the special meeting minutes for march 3rd anything

[0:36:26] Trustee Peterson (probable): anything on those okay

[0:36:30] Voice 10: we

[0:36:32] Trustee Peterson (probable): will also adopt those by consent uh we have no special we have no uh

[0:36:39] Trustee Peterson (probable): resolutions without minutes for advisory planning Commission minutes so I'll go to the follow-up

[0:36:45] Trustee Peterson (probable): action list uh start on page 21 and I'll look to staff to see if there's anything you'd like

[0:36:49] Trustee Peterson (probable): to highlight so

[0:37:09] Voice 12: uh through the chair on the full action list this is on page 21. there is an item

[0:37:14] Voice 12: under september 13th 2024 with regards to a request for staff to prepare a briefing on

[0:37:22] Voice 12: farm stand regulations using other ltc bylaw examples so there was discussion with the

[0:37:29] Voice 12: local trust committee to have that on hold until major project was completed and we've

[0:37:35] Voice 12: provided a note here to say it'll be moved to the minor project list but what i'm highlighting

[0:37:43] Voice 12: Mayor Mrakas, Is if you would still like this briefing or, if you would like it moved to the minor project list before we take it off the fall action this year, so just a point of clarification

[0:37:57] Trustee Peterson (probable): trustees were where you sitting on this do what i'm moving to the minor projects list do you want to go ahead and get the briefing to our next meeting where trustee allan I hear you go ahead.

[0:38:16] Voice 19: yeah i'd like to put it on a small project list and so we can just deal with this big issue on

[0:38:24] Voice 19: the meeting today thank

[0:38:26] Trustee Peterson (probable): you uh trustee scott thoughts

[0:38:28] Voice 7: well the farm staff farm stand

[0:38:34] Voice 7: regulations uh we got them put aside because it made no sense to call little stands all the way

[0:38:44] Voice 7: around the island, the buildings had to get a temporary use permit on a building. It was just,

[0:38:52] Voice 7: you know, so wisely that was put aside. Now, Renee, I don't know if this is how to get this

[0:39:00] Voice 7: changed completely, but what we found out was most of them are actually on highways from land. It's

[0:39:05] Voice 7: got nothing to do with the Islanders Trust anyway, but that's still not, doesn't give the people

[0:39:09] Voice 7: of doing you know they gotta cool the vegetables and get all that work done they need the confidence

[0:39:15] Voice 7: that they're going to be able to so what would you suggest the

[0:39:24] Voice 12: chair what i would suggest then

[0:39:25] Voice 12: is to leave it as a minor project item on your project list and not so it'll move from this

[0:39:32] Voice 12: follow-up action list to the minor project list so that when um the ltc is ready they can recall

[0:39:38] Voice 12: call it back up for to explore all those questions in this session no

[0:39:43] Voice 7: questions no effect on the

[0:39:45] Voice 7: people no no

[0:39:48] Voice 12: bylaws have changed in this regard so until that comes up through an easy direction

[0:39:54] Voice 12: to pick up off the line of project list yeah

[0:39:59] Voice 17: and i'll note that i believe we put that on

[0:40:08] Voice 17: we've had a standing resolution to not enforce but now i'm not seeing that maybe i'm incorrect

[0:40:19] Trustee Peterson (probable): on that um okay so uh do we need a motion to that effect yep okay staff will just do that

[0:40:28] Trustee Peterson (probable): anything else on the follow-up action list today okay

[0:40:36] Voice 17: uh next up then we have uh section nine we

[0:40:45] Voice 17: have the application for 9925 central road we have a staff report here and i'll turn it over

[0:40:52] Voice 17: to staff to present that i believe that's rob pingel joining us remotely through

[0:41:03] Voice 12: the chair yes

[0:41:04] Voice 12: that's correct this is for the agricultural plan yes thank

[0:41:10] Voice 2: you chair it's rob pingel here i hope

[0:41:13] Voice 2: you can hear me yes

[0:41:14] Trustee Peterson (probable): we can hear you go ahead mr pingel thank

[0:41:16] Voice 2: you so much uh the file number you

[0:41:19] Voice 2: have before you is PLALR-2026-0065. It's regarding an ALC application for non-farm use

[0:41:30] Voice 2: on the property located at 9926 Central Road. The work for the ALC is to decide if it wishes

[0:41:41] Voice 2: to forward the non-farm use application, or for the LTC is to decide whether it wishes to forward

[0:41:46] Voice 2: the non-farm use application to the ALC, the Agricultural Land Commission, for approval

[0:41:51] Voice 2: with or without additional comments or recommendations for the ALC to take into

[0:41:56] Voice 2: consideration. For you to put forward a positive recommendation, the ALC non-farm use must be

[0:42:04] Voice 2: a permitted use on the property within the land use bylaw. And to achieve that, the property owner

[0:42:10] Voice 2: is applied for a temporary use permit, which will, when approved, allow the use on the property.

[0:42:16] Voice 2: So the recommendation supports the non-farm use based on support through the objectives and

[0:42:23] Voice 2: policies in the official community plan. And because the events don't require permanent

[0:42:30] Voice 2: facilities to be constructed, which also supports the application being forwarded for review

[0:42:35] Voice 2: by the ALC. And as we have the temporary use permit open to ensure compliance with the land

[0:42:44] Voice 2: use bylaw, we feel that we come forward to the ALC for approval. When they make their approval,

[0:42:52] Voice 2: we will then be able to consider the temporary use permit. But it really, for the local trust

[0:43:01] Voice 2: committee as it is within agricultural land reserve the permission for this event falls to

[0:43:09] Voice 2: them first and then we you have the ability to confirm it through a temporary use permit which

[0:43:17] Voice 2: we're lining up to happen as quickly as possible happy to answer any questions or anything else

[0:43:24] Voice 2: you need chair thank

[0:43:27] Trustee Peterson (probable): you yeah i was just gonna call on would you like to add anything uh before

[0:43:32] Trustee Peterson (probable): we go ahead and then i

[0:43:34] Voice 14: wish if i may thank you i'm gonna have trouble shuffling

[0:43:41] Voice 14: oh just while i i'll pass it to you when i switch pages hi thank you for uh hearing me today i'm

[0:43:47] Voice 14: deirdre atkinson i'm the artistic director of the hornby festival and i'm the designated primary

[0:43:52] Voice 14: primary contact for this application on behalf of the Hormig Festival also on behalf of the fall

[0:43:58] Voice 14: fair committee and the owners of 9925 Central Road who are here today I believe online that we all

[0:44:06] Voice 14: know this property as Rosemere Farm I have three requests and I would like to ask for five minutes

[0:44:12] Voice 14: of your time to explain why they are urgent and cannot wait for subsequent meetings this year

[0:44:17] Voice 14: thank you to the island stress

[0:44:20] Voice 14: staff for moving uh moving the first request the agricultural land

[0:44:24] Voice 14: commission application on the agenda today forward as fast as possible and

[0:44:29] Voice 1: i'll call the agricultural

[0:44:30] Voice 14: land commission from here on forward the alc uh for some background the hormy festival society

[0:44:37] Voice 14: is a registered not-for-profit and a canadian charity at 44 years old it is one of the longest

[0:44:43] Voice 14: standing festivals in canada we've been operating

[0:44:46] Voice 14: successfully at rosemary farm for 30 years the

[0:44:50] Voice 14: hornby island fall fair is run by a volunteer management committee of the hornby island

[0:44:55] Voice 14: residents and rape gears association also a

[0:44:59] Voice 14: registered non-profit non-profit whoops i lost my

[0:45:03] Voice 14: amplification were you pressing the button there i don't think so

[0:45:20] Voice 14: The Hornby Island Fall Fair is run by a volunteer management committee of the Hornby Island

[0:45:26] Voice 14: Residents and Ratepayers Association, also a not-for-profit.

[0:45:30] Voice 14: This beloved community event has successfully taken place on Rosemere Farm for over 20 years.

[0:45:35] Voice 14: The owners of Rosemere Farm, who I think are here online today, run a well-managed hay and cattle farm as per the requirements of ALR land.

[0:45:45] Voice 14: They also, out of extreme generosity to this community, grant our two events free access to use their land every year for the Fall Fair and the Hornby Festival.

[0:45:56] Voice 14: Hornby Island and its community are at the heart of the Fall Fair and the Hornby Festival, and our mandates are to serve the community at large.

[0:46:04] Voice 14: We do not impact the land of Rosemere Farm or the viability of farming on this property.

[0:46:11] Voice 14: There is no other suitable non-ALR venue on the island capable of hosting the Hornby Festival or the Fall Fair.

[0:46:19] Voice 14: We appreciate the staff report regarding our ALC application,

[0:46:23] Voice 14: and our first request is that a motion be made today to forward it to the ALC without comment.

[0:46:29] Voice 14: As this application will undergo a lengthy process at the ALC, our second request is that the Islands' trustees provide a letter of support confirming the urgency of this matter.

[0:46:45] Voice 14: Rosemere Farm has two active applications before the Islands' Trust, which I have mentioned are incredibly time-sensitive and critical to the operational viability of both the Fall Fair and the Hornby Festival.

[0:47:01] Voice 14: i wish i was announcing an event

[0:47:07] Voice 14: um speaking on behalf of the hornby festival without approval or deferral of both these

[0:47:13] Voice 14: applications we cannot proceed with confidence this year and we are running out of time so one

[0:47:19] Voice 14: our first ask is that this alc application on the agenda today be forwarded to the alc without

[0:47:25] Voice 14: comment without delay and I'd also like to bring up for discussion linked to

[0:47:31] Voice 14: this ALC application is our application for a temporary use permit it's made on

[0:47:36] Voice 14: behalf of the owners for and it's to host the Hornby Festival and the Fall

[0:47:41] Voice 14: Fair this TUP application needs to be in process for our ALC application to be

[0:47:47] Voice 14: successful I'm bringing this up for discussion as I need to highlight the

[0:47:51] Voice 14: urgency of both these applications and indicate how they are linked together we have been told

[0:47:57] Voice 14: that we cannot bring our tup application to the islands trust meeting until the alc has resolved

[0:48:03] Voice 14: our alp or alc application we have been told by the alc staff that this could take three months

[0:48:10] Voice 14: or more this would make it impossible for our tup application to come before you again at the

[0:48:16] Voice 14: Islands Trust until September, as you do not hold any meetings in July or August. This would be too

[0:48:22] Voice 14: late for our events as we host our events in July, August, and September. I can use the Hornby

[0:48:28] Voice 14: Festival as an example of the urgency of this situation, as I know it best or better than the

[0:48:33] Voice 14: fall fair, although I'm representing both here today. A 44-year-old festival takes years to build

[0:48:41] Voice 14: and sustained, and each annual edition requires a full year of planning. An arts festival cannot

[0:48:47] Voice 14: pause for a year without significant organizational consequences. Reopening after a hiatus would be

[0:48:54] Voice 14: difficult, if not impossible, as seen with the recent closure of several Canadian music festivals.

[0:49:02] Voice 14: Stability and sustainability depend on continuity of experienced staff and board leadership,

[0:49:09] Voice 14: multi-year funding relationships, and the ongoing engagement of returning volunteers and audiences.

[0:49:16] Voice 14: At present, we are already contracting local, provincial, national, and international artists whose tours are planned around our festival.

[0:49:26] Voice 14: We have legally binding agreements in place and cancellation would result in substantial financial penalties and hardship.

[0:49:32] Voice 14: We also have contractual obligations to staff and government funders.

[0:49:38] Voice 14: without the required tup and alc approvals in place

[0:49:42] Voice 14: right we will it would not be possible to operate this year our third request is that if timely

[0:49:53] Voice 14: approval is not achievable we request consideration of a one-year grace period including a motion

[0:49:59] Voice 14: today to defer the tup tup requirement for rosemary farm to host the hornby festival

[0:50:05] Voice 14: and the hornby island hall fair for 2026 as our application remains in process

[0:50:11] Voice 14: In today's funding climate, it is already very challenging to bring our events to fruition in our community.

[0:50:17] Voice 14: I am hoping for a timely resolution today so that our respective organizations can focus on the substantial work of realizing our events

[0:50:25] Voice 14: and to fill our purpose, which is to bring art, connection, mental wellness, economic stimulation, and enrichment to our communities.

[0:50:35] Voice 14: Thank you. Thank you for your time.

[0:50:37] Voice 17: Thank you for that.

[0:50:38] Voice 17: that um trustee allen i see your hand up go ahead are

[0:50:43] Voice 19: you seeing my hand up because i'm not seeing

[0:50:44] Voice 19: my hand up um i

[0:50:46] Voice 17: am go ahead you're muted though excuse

[0:50:55] Voice 19: me sorry um well we wouldn't forward a

[0:50:59] Voice 19: letter without comment because we're going to have a letter of support so um am i correct there

[0:51:06] Voice 19: renee and staff pingle that the first request it wouldn't be a letter without comment it would be

[0:51:12] Voice 19: letter with comment and that would be our letter that i wrote is that correct anybody hear me

[0:51:20] Voice 12: through the chair um and planner people can answer this question as well can respond

[0:51:27] Voice 12: um there is a letter of support included in the package for this agenda item and i understand that

[0:51:35] Voice 12: maybe um people can elaborate if there is any other information to include as part of that

[0:51:41] Voice 12: that's something that staff can include as well.

[0:51:45] Voice 19: Can I follow up?

[0:51:47] Voice 19: Please.

[0:51:49] Voice 19: Regarding the third request,

[0:51:51] Voice 19: is that possible to do a deferral or have a grace period?

[0:51:56] Voice 19: I've never had that before as a trustee.

[0:52:01] Voice 19: I'm just wondering, is this a process that we could do?

[0:52:07] Voice 12: Through the Chair, if the request is asking for

[0:52:16] Voice 12: the LTC to not require a temporary use permit

[0:52:19] Voice 12: or to allow a use that's not currently permitted.

[0:52:24] Voice 12: The mechanism or the only way for the LTC

[0:52:28] Voice 12: to allow that use, if it's not allowed,

[0:52:30] Voice 12: is through a rezoning application

[0:52:33] Voice 12: or a temporary use permit.

[0:52:35] Voice 12: And that's a process that the LTC has in place

[0:52:39] Voice 12: through your permitted uses in your land use bylaw.

[0:52:43] Voice 12: I

[0:52:44] Trustee Peterson (probable): think, if I may just interject here, what I'm hearing the applicant say is that they're looking for some surety, knowing that the process may take some time.

[0:52:57] Trustee Peterson (probable): And I take your point, we cannot permit a use without permitting it through a legal mechanism.

[0:53:05] Trustee Peterson (probable): I think the alternative, which I believe is within our purview, it would be to request

[0:53:14] Trustee Peterson (probable): a non-enforcement on a use, should a bylaw infraction come up, then we could direct bylaw

[0:53:25] Trustee Peterson (probable): enforcement staff to non-enforce while, and especially while there's a temporary use permit

[0:53:29] Trustee Peterson (probable): application open that's kind of that's kind of generally standard practice is that correct

[0:53:34] Trustee Peterson (probable): through

[0:53:35] Voice 12: the chair so um that that's correct as well and um file enforcement is also confirmed

[0:53:41] Voice 12: that the enforcement file the action is on hold because the applicant is applying for

[0:53:49] Voice 12: um the non-farm use today of cultural land commission as well as the temporary permanent

[0:53:54] Voice 12: in the local trust community so the idea is that the non-farm use with this reported recommendation

[0:54:01] Voice 12: will continue to be able to move along so and to allow the time for temporary use permits process

[0:54:10] Voice 12: i do understand though the concern with the timelines um to come back to the local trust

[0:54:18] Trustee Peterson (probable): yeah sure and i guess so just to make sure that we're understanding this level

[0:54:25] Trustee Peterson (probable): so as long as the temporary use permit application is open and until such time as a decision has been

[0:54:34] Trustee Peterson (probable): made on that um the applicant could reasonably expect not to have bylaw enforcement action

[0:54:41] Trustee Peterson (probable): and take place we

[0:54:42] Voice 14: could share that okay

[0:54:43] Trustee Peterson (probable): your

[0:54:45] Voice 14: question

[0:54:46] Trustee Peterson (probable): i'll

[0:54:47] Voice 14: just like go first and then i'll

[0:54:48] Voice 14: add in okay

[0:54:49] Trustee Peterson (probable): i think alex also probably has a follow-up here but i'll go to scott grant

[0:54:55] Trustee Peterson (probable): just

[0:54:57] Voice 7: in the timeline and the process can you hear me

[0:55:02] Voice 8: what

[0:55:04] Voice 7: if we approve the temporary use permit

[0:55:10] Voice 7: subject to approval of the ALC so that we don't we don't have to double up on the process we don't

[0:55:19] Voice 7: have to have a Highlands Trust process and an ALC process so that we can approve it today

[0:55:28] Voice 7: in a motion and I'll make that motion that we approve the temporary use permit subject to ALC

[0:55:36] Voice 7: see approval and then we can put in there and then does

[0:55:40] Trustee Peterson (probable): that work for you okay hold on just a

[0:55:43] Trustee Peterson (probable): sec before we go too far down this track i saw two staff fans shoot up right away so mr pingel

[0:55:48] Trustee Peterson (probable): would you uh would you like to go ahead please yeah

[0:55:52] Voice 2: certainly um so there's been a lot of

[0:55:56] Voice 2: conversation but we'll focus on the last statements um it it's it's we don't have the temporary use

[0:56:08] Voice 2: permit. There's legislative requirements to consider the temporary use permit. And so at

[0:56:16] Voice 2: this meeting, a conditional passing of a temporary use permit is not possible. It's just legislatively

[0:56:25] Voice 2: not allowed. We are working, and that was why Ian or Planner Cox put his hand up, is that he's

[0:56:34] Voice 2: He's working with the ALC to confirm this, I'll say, chicken and egg procedure of can

[0:56:43] Voice 2: we issue the TUP in advance of the ALC's decision?

[0:56:47] Voice 2: And he will bring that information if he receives it, you know, as I am, once again, I'm speaking

[0:56:56] Voice 2: for Ian, but we spoke earlier today.

[0:56:58] Voice 2: The goal would be for you to consider at the next meeting on May 1st, because we'd be able

[0:57:04] Voice 2: to meet the legislative advertised notice requirements and we'd be able to have an actual

[0:57:09] Voice 2: permit for you and we'd have sign off from the alc that it's allowed and so rather than rushing

[0:57:15] Voice 2: the permit today for those reasons we hold out hope that we can consider at the may 1st meeting

[0:57:24] Trustee Peterson (probable): okay thank you and i'll go over to you and thank

[0:57:27] Voice 14: you um well that may not be ideal the

[0:57:30] Voice 14: may 1st meeting that is workable um if it were to i like um grants recommendation is the best

[0:57:40] Voice 14: case scenario for us because for us to actually have the exemption and the permit in place for

[0:57:46] Voice 14: our festival and our fall fair this year is best from our operational standpoint and our contracts

[0:57:52] Voice 14: that require us to have permission to be at our venue um so if it could be on the agenda for

[0:57:59] Voice 14: May 1st either with the ability to just pass it or as Grant said have it pending approval of ALC

[0:58:08] Voice 14: then we won't run into the deadline which I believe is your June 26th meeting to have the

[0:58:16] Voice 14: temporary use permit put in place if we are waiting for the ALC first but they may not decide until

[0:58:22] Voice 14: after that date in which case we wouldn't have any recourse to come to you until September

[0:58:27] Voice 14: which would require us to close our doors right

[0:58:32] Trustee Peterson (probable): okay and and so just to reiterate that the despite

[0:58:37] Trustee Peterson (probable): what grant proposal might be you know your best thing we've heard we've heard that legislatively

[0:58:43] Trustee Peterson (probable): we can't we cannot do that today because

[0:58:45] Voice 14: of public notice am i right about that yeah that

[0:58:48] Trustee Peterson (probable): was certainly one piece there yeah

[0:58:49] Voice 14: yeah um

[0:58:50] Trustee Peterson (probable): and so it

[0:58:51] Trustee Peterson (probable): sounds like may 1st may be attainable but go

[0:58:54] Trustee Peterson (probable): out so

[0:58:54] Voice 12: through the chair i'm just uh wanting to clarify the question from trustee scott is could

[0:59:00] Voice 12: could there be conditional approval of the temporary use permit um so i just want to recall

[0:59:05] Voice 12: what planner kingle said is there's discussion happening with the alc to um to work through some

[0:59:13] Voice 12: of that um to see if that is possible so today staff would be unable to provide that information

[0:59:20] Voice 12: information to the local trust committee but we'll work towards the may 1st agenda so i see

[0:59:26] Voice 12: planner cox has a yeah as

[0:59:28] Voice 12: well okay i'm

[0:59:31] Trustee Peterson (probable): gonna go to planner cox and just to clarify just for the

[0:59:33] Trustee Peterson (probable): just so we can clarify this question as much as possible before we go ahead mr cox great thanks

[0:59:39] Voice 1: can you hear me chair yes

[0:59:41] Trustee Peterson (probable): indeed okay

[0:59:41] Voice 1: yeah um so that that's correct yeah i'm in contact with the

[0:59:45] Voice 1: But it's actually conditioning LTC permits on other agencies' approvals isn't really the best practice.

[0:59:52] Voice 1: So we'd kind of discourage that, although we understand the time urgency here.

[0:59:57] Voice 1: But so we'll provide some clarity when we bring.

[1:00:00] Voice 1: the tup um to to you for for discussion and consideration um but in the meantime just to

[1:00:06] Voice 1: circle back to the bylaw enforcement piece if bylaw the manager bylaw enforcement's indicated

[1:00:11] Voice 1: they are this this file will be on hold while the um while these applications are in progress so

[1:00:18] Voice 1: there's that assurance that there wouldn't be enforcement of the use even if the tup you know

[1:00:24] Voice 1: is is still in progress so um so yes the approval needs to happen via tup um but you know that's

[1:00:31] Voice 1: some further information in terms of uh i'm moving forward with the festival so after this meeting if

[1:00:37] Voice 1: the ltc were to if the resolution is to forward this application before you to the alc um with uh

[1:00:45] Voice 1: with support and also indication that a tup is needed and you've got that in the resolution

[1:00:50] Voice 1: from the staff report there then really they're the only wait for the property

[1:00:55] Voice 1: owner in the and the festival society is just is the ALC authorization okay

[1:01:03] Trustee Peterson (probable): yeah I just

[1:01:08] Voice 14: wanted to thank the staff for their knowledge on this and I'm fine

[1:01:11] Voice 14: with our TUP application deferring to the May 1st meeting waiting for the May

[1:01:17] Voice 14: first meeting um but for uh the other application that's on the agenda today um regarding our alc

[1:01:24] Voice 14: application i would love it if there could be a motion for that today regarding forwarding this

[1:01:31] Voice 14: because that's what we're waiting on the alc will not look at our application until they have

[1:01:35] Voice 14: received it from you and just one more point i wanted to point out is that although we very much

[1:01:42] Voice 14: to appreciate that there wouldn't be enforcement of the tup this year um we do have many contracts

[1:01:51] Voice 14: with artists and with our government funders uh that we and our festival works in a very

[1:01:57] Voice 14: professional manner so for us to run without our proper uh permits in place would put us in a very

[1:02:05] Voice 14: uncomfortable position and we likely would not do it yeah

[1:02:09] Trustee Peterson (probable): understood it and and what i'm hearing

[1:02:11] Trustee Peterson (probable): from staff is that we can't force the ALC to do anything on a timeline, but it sounds

[1:02:20] Trustee Peterson (probable): to me like our staff are doing everything they can to help expedite this.

[1:02:24] Trustee Peterson (probable): I see Mr. Pingel's hand up, and then I'm going to go to Trustee Allen after that.

[1:02:30] Trustee Peterson (probable): Go ahead, Mr. Pingel.

[1:02:32] Voice 2: Thank you, Chair.

[1:02:33] Voice 2: I have been in conversation with bylaw enforcement and compliance manager Dingman during this meeting, and he, as Planner Cox indicated, the file is on hold, and he's willing to send a letter to the property owner making it clear that the file is on hold and there will be no enforcement.

[1:03:03] Voice 2: And I'm curious if that is a way to address the concerns raised by the applicant and the property owner about the festival so that the LTC doesn't need to pass an additional resolution at this time besides forwarding to the ALR the positive response to continue with their work.

[1:03:33] Voice 14: i think as long as we can be on the agenda for may 1 if need be i'm comfortable with that

[1:03:40] Voice 14: as long as our as long as there's a motion today one way or the other regarding our alc

[1:03:47] Voice 14: application right

[1:03:48] Trustee Peterson (probable): and we do have a a recommendation um that we're going to be

[1:03:51] Trustee Peterson (probable): considering when we're when we've rounded up the conversation here trustee alan yeah thanks um

[1:03:58] Voice 19: So, regarding a moratorium on bylaw enforcement, are you just, Mr. Pingel, are you just talking about our bylaw enforcement or are you also talking about ALR is going to push back as well? I'm confused there.

[1:04:12] Voice 19: Yeah,

[1:04:14] Voice 2: through the chair. Trustee Allen, we don't have the ability to direct the ALR to enforce or not. We can only control the staff that are within our organization.

[1:04:33] Voice 2: And I don't think – the conversations I've had with the applicant have not indicated a request that we do that.

[1:04:46] Voice 2: They are working with the ALC to address those issues directly.

[1:04:50] Voice 2: And by passing the recommendation in the agenda package, that allows the ALC to do the work they need to do as quickly as possible.

[1:04:59] Voice 2: And so, turning back to the work we need to do to ensure the ALC meets the needs of our applicant is to pass this recommendation.

[1:05:12] Voice 2: And, you know, the minute you make the resolution, I'll be submitting it on their website so that they know about it.

[1:05:19] Voice 19: Thank you.

[1:05:20] Voice 19: Can I ask one more question?

[1:05:22] Voice 19: Go ahead.

[1:05:22] Voice 19: Can there be an RWM for a TUP before the May meeting, or is that too complicated?

[1:05:35] Voice 12: Through the Chair, what I would suggest is for permit decisions to hold them through a regular meeting, because there is advertising and comments that do come through that process as well.

[1:05:51] Voice 12: So that would be a way for the LTC to hear that before making a decision.

[1:06:00] Voice 10: Trustee Scott, you had something?

[1:06:03] Voice 7: Yes. What I heard earlier was it's not impossible for us to give tentative approval to another agency.

[1:06:14] Voice 7: It's discouraged, is the word I heard, but it doesn't mean we can't do it,

[1:06:18] Voice 7: because it seems to me May 1st is a long way down the road.

[1:06:23] Voice 7: As you point out, that's three months when they don't have the security, as you pointed out.

[1:06:29] Voice 7: So I would really encourage us to approve the farm to allow the summer festival and the fall fair to issue the temporary permits subject to the ALC approval.

[1:06:54] Voice 7: So they don't

[1:06:55] Voice 7: actually get the approval until the ALC comes back, but we don't have to set

[1:07:02] Voice 7: up a process.

[1:07:03] Voice 7: We don't have to set up a process three months after, as Birgit pointed out, the timeline

[1:07:09] Voice 7: would be disastrous for them if it drifts, you know, May turns into June, July pretty

[1:07:14] Voice 7: quickly.

[1:07:15] Voice 7: So I'd be quite willing to make a motion that we approve the temporary use permit subject

[1:07:24] Trustee Peterson (probable): okay and i know that uh i'd like to i won't come to you but i'd like to actually go back to mr

[1:07:30] Trustee Peterson (probable): pingel if i could for a moment because i i think i heard it a little bit differently than the way

[1:07:36] Trustee Peterson (probable): you stated it um so mr pingel can you just reiterate what you told us about that um a

[1:07:41] Trustee Peterson (probable): couple minutes ago please chair

[1:07:46] Voice 2: uh i hope i'm speaking to the right aspect of the conversation

[1:07:49] Voice 2: it's been broad ranging the agenda item today is the is the ALR application the recommendation

[1:07:58] Voice 2: states that the we the ALTC supports the non-farm use and and is committing with the applicant and

[1:08:13] Voice 2: the applicant is committing I'm not sure which best way to say that to approve a temporary use

[1:08:19] Voice 2: permit once we hear back from the ALC regarding their decision. The challenge that we have as a

[1:08:28] Voice 2: local government when dealing with ALR land is we are not allowed to permit uses that are not

[1:08:35] Voice 2: already permitted in the ALR. And so although Trustee Scott spoke to that idea of not recommended,

[1:08:46] Voice 2: It's really challenging to track if we issue a conditional temporary use permit. It's very challenging to track that.

[1:09:00] Voice 2: And so administrative best practices are to deal with the issue today, allow the ALC to make their decision, and then for us to complete our process.

[1:09:12] Voice 2: Because legislatively, we shouldn't be going through the notice period and all the work of the temporary use permit when it's not allowed within the ALR.

[1:09:26] Voice 2: and and so our best practice is to wait yeah

[1:09:33] Trustee Peterson (probable): and it occurs to me from what i've been hearing you

[1:09:36] Trustee Peterson (probable): say that that could actually that has potential to harm the validity of of a permit if we do it

[1:09:45] Trustee Peterson (probable): inappropriately like we can't actually permit until the alc has made their decision

[1:09:59] Trustee Peterson (probable): if it's if it's on this issue then why don't you go ahead and then so

[1:10:03] Voice 12: there is through the

[1:10:04] Voice 12: temporary's permit process legislatively we have to complete one of these steps of notification

[1:10:10] Voice 12: so right i would not recommend or advise the ltc to make a decision on the temporary's permit right

[1:10:16] Trustee Peterson (probable): Right. If we haven't had the notification and then it could put the validity of that permit in jeopardy, which, of course, would just set things back.

[1:10:24] Trustee Peterson (probable): So it's not

[1:10:25] Voice 12: a good idea.

[1:10:25] Voice 12: What I would suggest to the chairman, I would suggest the LTC move forward with is consider the ALR response and the resolutions have not decided.

[1:10:39] Voice 12: Yeah. And then look to staff to get that clarification and bring it forward.

[1:10:45] Voice 12: it on the march

[1:10:46] Trustee Peterson (probable): right and if there is some way

[1:10:47] Trustee Peterson (probable): we can expedite we can ask staff if there's some way

[1:10:50] Trustee Peterson (probable): we can expedite it before the march meeting if we can then we can we can direct that um and there

[1:10:56] Voice 12: are through the chair we will have to follow legislative process of course

[1:10:59] Voice 12: so as much as

[1:11:01] Voice 12: we're able to that's what we do

[1:11:03] Trustee Peterson (probable): yeah we need we need to do this right otherwise we're not doing

[1:11:06] Trustee Peterson (probable): you any favors right um go ahead and then i'm going to go to trustee allen um

[1:11:11] Voice 14: it is it's fine

[1:11:12] Voice 14: So moving the ALC, there's two applications.

[1:11:15] Voice 14: Moving the ALC application forward today, it is fine with me if the TUP application goes on the agenda for the May 1st meeting.

[1:11:23] Voice 14: I would love further investigation into the possibility of having an approval of the TUP that comes into effect upon the completion of the ALC application or upon approval of their exemption.

[1:11:39] Voice 14: and only because you don't have any meetings in july or august and so that would cause harm to

[1:11:48] Voice 14: our organization i

[1:11:49] Trustee Peterson (probable): think what i heard staff say is that we there we can within our legislative

[1:11:56] Trustee Peterson (probable): boundaries we can do our best to accelerate that and it may not have to it may not

[1:12:02] Trustee Peterson (probable): have to all take

[1:12:03] Trustee Peterson (probable): place in the public meeting go ahead so

[1:12:06] Voice 12: through the chair what i'm mindful of is i want to kind

[1:12:09] Voice 12: of check back into our procedure here what's before us is the agricultural land exclusion

[1:12:16] Voice 12: request um we're talking about a temporary use application that's not on the agenda but that's

[1:12:20] Voice 12: related to it

[1:12:21] Voice 12: so the ltc business is recording today there is an opportunity to talk more about

[1:12:26] Voice 12: the temporary use permit and considerations for that with staff as well um so i'm just

[1:12:32] Voice 12: wanting to steer that direction back to this because the temporary use application

[1:12:38] Trustee Peterson (probable): sure okay I appreciate that reminder and and and you're right and of course if we don't advance

[1:12:44] Trustee Peterson (probable): the piece of business that's in front of us then all the rest of this discussion is with a trustee

[1:12:48] Trustee Peterson (probable): Allen yeah

[1:12:50] Voice 19: thanks um so if we just pass these recommendations we're good but I'm just wondering

[1:12:55] Voice 19: the first um recommendation can we the applicant has said that really would like a letter of support

[1:13:03] Voice 19: support which we do have written already could that be added for further consideration with

[1:13:11] Trustee Peterson (probable): trustee Allen I believe no

[1:13:13] Voice 19: I just wanted to ask the staff whether that can be asked added that's

[1:13:17] Voice 19: all the letter of

[1:13:19] Voice 19: support Mr

[1:13:20] Trustee Peterson (probable): Pingel I see you that go ahead yes

[1:13:24] Voice 2: chair it definitely could be added as

[1:13:26] Voice 2: as you stated, as a second resolution.

[1:13:30] Trustee Peterson (probable): Okay.

[1:13:32] Trustee Peterson (probable): So, trustees, where are we at?

[1:13:33] Trustee Peterson (probable): Should we...

[1:13:34] Trustee Peterson (probable): Can I move?

[1:13:36] Trustee Peterson (probable): Please go right ahead.

[1:13:38] Voice 19: All right.

[1:13:39] Voice 19: It's halfway cut off.

[1:13:40] Voice 19: I move that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee supports application PLALR-2026-0065

[1:13:50] Voice 19: for non-form use in the Agricultural Land Reserve and direct staff to forward the application

[1:13:55] Voice 19: the agricultural land commission for further consideration including a letter of our letter

[1:14:03] Voice 19: of support with the following comment subject to ltc approval of a temporary use permit the

[1:14:12] Voice 19: property has an open temporary use permit application in process to allow the events

[1:14:16] Voice 19: within the zone which will be considered subsequent to any agricultural land commission

[1:14:21] Voice 19: approval okay

[1:14:23] Trustee Peterson (probable): and before i ask for a second or i just want to check in with staff is adding the

[1:14:28] Trustee Peterson (probable): letter of support in this resolution is that okay should

[1:14:32] Voice 17: it be a standalone i

[1:14:35] Voice 2: believe that's okay

[1:14:36] Voice 2: defer to the manager if she has an issue with them

[1:14:40] Voice 7: that's fine through

[1:14:41] Voice 12: the chair okay

[1:14:42] Voice 7: so i'll

[1:14:43] Voice 7: look for a second so i want to ask you a question first does this work for you yeah

[1:14:49] Voice 14: this works for

[1:14:51] Voice 14: me moving absolutely this is what i want i want this application to be ordered

[1:14:55] Voice 14: to the alc

[1:14:56] Voice 14: okay it's

[1:14:57] Trustee Peterson (probable): the motion it's a process it's moved

[1:15:00] Trustee Peterson (probable): and seconded so any further discussion required

[1:15:03] Trustee Peterson (probable): on the motion on the floor i'm not hearing anything so i'll call the question all those in

[1:15:09] Trustee Peterson (probable): favor aye

[1:15:11] Voice 19: okay

[1:15:12] Trustee Peterson (probable): and that carries so and we've also included the letter of support in this so i believe

[1:15:18] Trustee Peterson (probable): that concludes this item unless there's anything else

[1:15:21] Voice 17: from anyone on it does

[1:15:26] Voice 14: the letter of support

[1:15:32] Voice 14: of this to the ALC for a year's grace while we have this application in process, so.

[1:15:41] Voice 9: Just try to scan the letter real quick here.

[1:15:44] Voice 9: Thank you.

[1:15:46] Voice 9: Yes.

[1:15:47] Voice 12: Through the chair, that's a letter drafted from trustee Allen, so to clarify, it's on

[1:15:59] Voice 12: the agenda.

[1:15:59] Voice 12: Thank you.

[1:15:59] Voice 12: okay yeah

[1:16:03] Voice 23: and i and because it is a draft um i said i mean if it's

[1:16:13] Voice 23: maybe

[1:16:14] Trustee Peterson (probable): we could ask um

[1:16:16] Trustee Peterson (probable): ask you to to connect with staff outside the

[1:16:18] Trustee Peterson (probable): meeting yeah and see if it needs to add

[1:16:21] Trustee Peterson (probable): you know emphasize the urgency in some way that that's not already captured in the letter okay

[1:16:28] Trustee Peterson (probable): but i think that's that should i don't see a problem with that make

[1:16:33] Voice 12: sure it may be connecting

[1:16:34] Voice 12: with trustee allen or yeah okay maybe maybe

[1:16:37] Trustee Peterson (probable): connect with trustee allen as the author of the

[1:16:39] Trustee Peterson (probable): letter okay

[1:16:40] Voice 14: great so that will go forward as a separate yeah

[1:16:43] Trustee Peterson (probable): so we're we're doing the official

[1:16:45] Trustee Peterson (probable): piece and then we're going to send a letter and um if that letter needs a mild amendment

[1:16:50] Trustee Peterson (probable): there i think we'll be fine with that thank

[1:16:53] Voice 11: you okay

[1:16:55] Trustee Peterson (probable): uh so let's move on to uh item 10.1

[1:17:01] Trustee Peterson (probable): this is the hornby island official committee plan and land use bylaw review and

[1:17:06] Voice 23: we have a staff

[1:17:06] Voice 23: report starting on page 39 over to thank

[1:17:11] Voice 9: you mr pingel and mr cox for being with us uh over to

[1:17:19] Voice 12: Okay, I'll speak left so through the chair Planner Zubinick was unfortunately unable

[1:17:30] Voice 12: to make it for this meeting so I'm here to present the report the report before you today

[1:17:39] Voice 12: is on to introduce the amendments from the March 3rd special meeting for second reading

[1:17:50] Voice 12: meeting as amended and to proceed with a community information meeting and public hearing. There

[1:17:56] Voice 12: have been some comments that have come in over the past few weeks related to the topics

[1:18:03] Voice 12: that were discussed and the amended changes, pardon me, the changes that the LTC has directed

[1:18:09] Voice 12: staff to make. Pardon me. So the changes that have been discussed over the past meetings,

[1:18:20] Voice 12: meetings the regular meetings of the trust committee have been incorporated into what

[1:18:25] Voice 12: is attached on the agenda for the proposed amendments this includes a cap of 65 temporary

[1:18:33] Voice 12: use permits to be issued in any given time it also includes regulation wording drafted

[1:18:41] Voice 12: for a principal resident requirement for operations and vacation rental and it also includes drafted

[1:18:48] Voice 12: guideline language that recognizes approved alternative water sources other than well water

[1:18:53] Voice 12: and composting toilets to serve as vacation rentals by law in terms of information i understand

[1:19:02] Voice 12: there's some discussion that the ltc would like to have today so there are some alternative

[1:19:07] Voice 12: recommendations if the ltc wish to consider that if there is more information or additional

[1:19:14] Voice 12: additional information you would like to request of staff um I ask that you look to alternative

[1:19:22] Voice 12: recommendation number two on page 40 of the agenda I just wanted to flag that if there is if it will

[1:19:29] Voice 12: require more staff time to investigate that and bring it back to the LTC for consideration

[1:19:35] Voice 12: There is a caution that the by-law itself may not be able to advance towards adoption

[1:19:45] Voice 12: prior to the end of the term in October.

[1:19:49] Voice 12: However, the overall process could still continue after adoptions as well.

[1:19:58] Voice 12: So I'm just flagging that timing for the LTC.

[1:20:02] Voice 12: see the process doesn't stop the process does keep going but um for example i wouldn't suggest

[1:20:09] Voice 12: a public hearing because of because of that that time frame of the local auctions if the ltc

[1:20:19] Voice 12: does not want to proceed any further alternative number three does provide some recommended wording

[1:20:26] Voice 12: However, I do want to note, per the staff report, that if you do not wish to proceed

[1:20:35] Voice 12: on this portion, the short-term vacation rental portion and amendments, there are other aspects

[1:20:41] Voice 12: that will need to come back to the local trust committee per your project charter, which

[1:20:48] Voice 12: is about the outstanding items for this major project, which is the First Nation implementation

[1:20:55] Voice 12: rotation and housing assets so i'll do my best to answer any questions um if you can't today

[1:21:02] Voice 12: i'll take note of them for planners okay thank

[1:21:05] Trustee Peterson (probable): you for that so um before i open up our discussion

[1:21:12] Trustee Peterson (probable): wide open um i just want to note that if there are changes wanted what we want to do is look to

[1:21:23] Trustee Peterson (probable): um look to number one in the uh alternatives so i want to change what is in the draft right now

[1:21:34] Trustee Peterson (probable): um we're going to go and make amendments to the draft bylaw uh and then and then we would consider

[1:21:44] Trustee Peterson (probable): uh the recommendations at the top of the page so i just wanted to make so process wise if we're

[1:21:51] Trustee Peterson (probable): We're gonna look at retaining

[1:21:57] Trustee Peterson (probable): or getting rid of the principal requirements.

[1:21:59] Trustee Peterson (probable): That will be an amendment to the draft by-law.

[1:22:02] Trustee Peterson (probable): We're gonna look at any alteration

[1:22:04] Trustee Peterson (probable): to the cap number that's in there.

[1:22:05] Trustee Peterson (probable): That will be amendment to the draft by-law.

[1:22:08] Trustee Peterson (probable): And then what, so we wanna do that amendment

[1:22:10] Trustee Peterson (probable): to the draft by-law first before we consider

[1:22:12] Trustee Peterson (probable): the recommendations at the top of the report.

[1:22:14] Trustee Peterson (probable): That make sense?

[1:22:17] Trustee Peterson (probable): Trustee Allen, I see your hand, go ahead.

[1:22:20] Voice 19: yeah um i've i've heard everybody loud and clear i i want to apologize again about

[1:22:26] Voice 19: the meeting on the third i was even worse than i am today uh but i hear you um 67 i don't know

[1:22:36] Voice 19: where we got that from the staff report on january 23rd said 87 operators are registered

[1:22:43] Voice 19: registered. I recommend we go for 87. The principal dwelling? No. It was not recommended

[1:22:51] Voice 19: by the APC. It does not take into consideration the significant shift Hystra and others have

[1:22:57] Voice 19: accepted TUPs and CAPs. There's been a real significant pushback regarding this, as you

[1:23:04] Voice 19: know from all of the letters, phone calls, et cetera. This will derail this whole long

[1:23:08] Voice 19: process that we have worked so hard for consensus. And I'm not prepared to go back. And then

[1:23:16] Voice 19: And we have no rationale for principal dwelling,

[1:23:18] Voice 19: not anything, and I admit it.

[1:23:20] Voice 19: And so I'm prepared to make a motion,

[1:23:23] Voice 19: but I'm prepared to have a conversation as well.

[1:23:24] Voice 19: Thank you.

[1:23:25] Trustee Peterson (probable): Okay, I appreciate that.

[1:23:27] Trustee Peterson (probable): So just as a reminder, if you're preparing a motion,

[1:23:31] Trustee Peterson (probable): just frame it based on the amendment.

[1:23:34] Voice 19: Yes, I do, I have that.

[1:23:35] Voice 19: Piece

[1:23:35] Trustee Peterson (probable): in there, okay.

[1:23:36] Trustee Peterson (probable): And it could be omnibus if you want to,

[1:23:40] Trustee Peterson (probable): but it's probably simpler to do them,

[1:23:42] Trustee Peterson (probable): to like to do separate ones.

[1:23:44] Trustee Peterson (probable): if you want to change the cap let's do that in one motion if you want to remove the uh principal

[1:23:51] Trustee Peterson (probable): residence requirement let's do that in second motion so we're not conflating can

[1:23:55] Voice 19: i pass the

[1:23:56] Voice 19: motion now

[1:23:56] Trustee Peterson (probable): i'm just going to pause for a moment and see if uh trustee scott has anything that

[1:24:02] Trustee Peterson (probable): you want to add before we get into any motions a

[1:24:07] Voice 24: couple of things

[1:24:07] Voice 7: okay thank you it seems to

[1:24:11] Voice 7: me like we've got two options here one is we um salt spring island gabriola island and one or

[1:24:20] Voice 7: one other have opted into the uh the provincial regulations regarding principal residents if you

[1:24:31] Voice 7: opt into their principal residence there's no no timing during the year but it is definitely

[1:24:36] Voice 7: for principal residents so the other the second option i have considered is if we set it up to 65

[1:24:47] Voice 7: what's the rationale everybody says there's no rationale for 65 let me point out we hope we came

[1:24:53] Voice 7: up with this rationale is that there are 635 homes on hornby island and most municipalities

[1:25:03] Voice 7: municipalities have never allowed up to 10 percent. 65 is more than 635, right? So what

[1:25:18] Voice 7: we

[1:25:18] Trustee Peterson (probable): could do... I'm going to ask members of the public, just wait, this is our... I'm sorry, sir.

[1:25:25] Trustee Peterson (probable): This is our discussion here. I know everyone's got lots of thoughts, but this is not the time.

[1:25:32] Voice 7: So if we set the cap at 65 and give priority to principal residents, of which there's about 20 from what we hear, that will leave 45 for non-residents.

[1:25:51] Voice 7: 45.

[1:25:54] Voice 7: So it seems to me like that's a pretty good compromise.

[1:25:56] Voice 7: We don't want to understand why the idea of the first one is the worst option.

[1:26:02] Voice 7: option but these other Bowen Island Salt Spring Island Gabriel Island which is half the island's

[1:26:10] Voice 7: trust population I think might be quite easy to say have all popped it into the provincial regulations

[1:26:18] Voice 7: um to Fino opted in and then opted out so we could actually opt into that now wouldn't kick

[1:26:26] Voice 7: in until November if you read the information it wouldn't kick in until November so everybody's

[1:26:32] Voice 7: good for this year there's a new trust council comes in and you the whole the whole thing starts

[1:26:39] Voice 7: all over again i think the better solution is is the second one and i wanted to make that motion

[1:26:50] Voice 17: okay so thank you for your thoughts

[1:26:52] Trustee Peterson (probable): no i'm not gonna we're not gonna hear from members

[1:26:56] Voice 6: no you

[1:26:57] Voice 6: don't get to call a

[1:26:58] Trustee Peterson (probable): point of order i'm sorry the

[1:26:59] Voice 6: numbers are incorrect

[1:27:00] Trustee Peterson (probable): that's if if the

[1:27:02] Trustee Peterson (probable): numbers are incorrect that that's as may be but you need to respect that this is the time that

[1:27:08] Trustee Peterson (probable): the local trust committee is deliberating we're not hearing from members of the public right now

[1:27:12] Voice 1: it

[1:27:12] Trustee Peterson (probable): doesn't matter what it is sir i'm sorry i'm sorry that's not what we're doing here okay

[1:27:20] Voice 8: no

[1:27:21] Trustee Peterson (probable): will you i'm sorry you're not a member of the local trust committee so you have no standing for

[1:27:25] Trustee Peterson (probable): points of order or challenging the chair that's not how it works so i'm going to ask you to please

[1:27:30] Trustee Peterson (probable): respect the process here and let us get back to our deliberations okay thank you um so

[1:27:40] Trustee Peterson (probable): i hear you have a motion you'd like to uh uh uh i have

[1:27:44] Voice 19: my hand up

[1:27:45] Trustee Peterson (probable): trustee alex uh alan has

[1:27:47] Trustee Peterson (probable): a motion too no i don't

[1:27:48] Trustee Peterson (probable): know i did say i was going to hear from you and then go back to trustee

[1:27:51] Trustee Peterson (probable): allen so go ahead trustee allen i

[1:27:54] Voice 19: totally am disagreement with trustee scott we are not

[1:27:58] Voice 19: We're not Bowen. We're not Salt Spring. We're not Gabriela. We're not Tofino. We are Hornby. And if you've listened to any of those people and read those letters and had telephone conversations, and I've talked to both sides of this conversation, it's not right.

[1:28:15] Voice 19: right we are killing we are killing this a whole segment of people on this island that are it's not

[1:28:23] Voice 19: their principal dwelling but they have a history here 1958 1968 i mean i've thought long and hard

[1:28:30] Voice 19: on this and i want to carry on living on this island and i'm not going to be able to if we go

[1:28:37] Voice 19: with your motion and i'm sorry you have not listened or read any of the letters

[1:28:43] Trustee Peterson (probable): sorry get

[1:28:45] Trustee Peterson (probable): get back to the the issues at hand here i am

[1:28:48] Voice 19: i am talking about the issues that happen okay but

[1:28:51] Trustee Peterson (probable): i'm angry it

[1:28:51] Trustee Peterson (probable): does not need to go into personal thing what i'm going to ask is you said you had

[1:28:55] Trustee Peterson (probable): a motion that you were prepared to make um so that we are talking about something substantive

[1:29:01] Trustee Peterson (probable): i'm going to ask you to go ahead and make your first motion okay

[1:29:10] Voice 19: i moved at the hornby island

[1:29:16] Voice 19: and bylaw number 177 cited as Hornby Island land use bylaw 150 2014 amendment number 1 2024

[1:29:26] Voice 19: be amended with the following that the Hornby Island local trust committee request staff to

[1:29:33] Voice 19: bring forward draft amendment language to include a cap of a maximum of 87 temporary use permits

[1:29:42] Voice 19: at any given time and draft language regarding alternative water provisions and permitting

[1:29:49] Voice 19: composting toilets okay

[1:29:50] Trustee Peterson (probable): can i just stop you there for a minute we have all of that we have that

[1:29:55] Trustee Peterson (probable): the composting toilets and stuff so if you look on page 40

[1:30:00] Trustee Peterson (probable): there's a template there and and i just asked you to bring the um the cap number into into that so

[1:30:09] Trustee Peterson (probable): it would be that the horn beyond the local trust committee byline number one say seven et cetera

[1:30:15] Trustee Peterson (probable): et cetera be amended uh with the following and then i would go to section let's scroll down

[1:30:29] Trustee Peterson (probable): Section 111B and change the number there.

[1:30:33] Voice 19: What page?

[1:30:34] Voice 19: Where are we?

[1:30:35] Voice 19: I don't see us.

[1:30:36] Voice 19: Can you help me?

[1:30:38] Trustee Peterson (probable): Sorry.

[1:30:38] Trustee Peterson (probable): The cap in the draft is on page 46.

[1:30:44] Voice 19: Oh, okay.

[1:30:45] Trustee Peterson (probable): And that's 1.11B.

[1:30:49] Voice 19: Okay.

[1:30:50] Voice 19: Sorry.

[1:30:50] Voice 19: right and

[1:30:51] Trustee Peterson (probable): then the draft motion to start with is on page 40 alternative number one oh

[1:31:01] Voice 19: god i i i

[1:31:04] Voice 19: need a little help here okay it's from staff because i'm not okay

[1:31:09] Trustee Peterson (probable): so um i'm gonna uh what

[1:31:15] Trustee Peterson (probable): i'm gonna do is i'm gonna read out the uh first part and then go to the second part to help you

[1:31:22] Trustee Peterson (probable): out and and we'll get the minute taker to confirm that she's got what we've what we've got and then

[1:31:27] Trustee Peterson (probable): you can make that motion yeah

[1:31:29] Voice 19: thanks i'm sorry i'm just uh not all here

[1:31:31] Trustee Peterson (probable): okay i understand so

[1:31:32] Trustee Peterson (probable): it would be um that the hornby island local trust committee bylaw number 177 cited as hornby island

[1:31:41] Trustee Peterson (probable): land use bylaw number 150,

[1:31:43] Trustee Peterson (probable): 2020-2014,

[1:31:45] Trustee Peterson (probable): amendment number 1,

[1:31:47] Trustee Peterson (probable): 2024, be amended

[1:31:49] Trustee Peterson (probable): by

[1:31:52] Trustee Peterson (probable): 6,

[1:31:55] Trustee Peterson (probable): by changing

[1:31:58] Trustee Peterson (probable): the number in

[1:32:00] Trustee Peterson (probable): section 1.11

[1:32:03] Trustee Peterson (probable): B

[1:32:04] Trustee Peterson (probable): from 65

[1:32:06] Trustee Peterson (probable): to, what was it?

[1:32:09] Voice 19: 87.

[1:32:10] Trustee Peterson (probable): 87.

[1:32:12] Trustee Peterson (probable): so we'll just check in with our amazing minute taker and see if she's captured that for us

[1:32:18] Trustee Peterson (probable): and ask her to read it back and then if that's it reflects her intent then you can make the motion

[1:32:24] Trustee Peterson (probable): thank

[1:32:28] Voice 13: you chair peterson what i have is that the hornby island local trust committee bylaw number

[1:32:35] Voice 13: 177 cited as hornby island land use bylaw number 150 2014 amendment number one 2024

[1:32:44] Voice 13: 24 be amended by changing the number in section 1.11b from 65 to 87?

[1:32:53] Trustee Peterson (probable): Is that the intent of your

[1:32:54] Trustee Peterson (probable): motion trustee Allen?

[1:32:56] Voice 19: Yes and is there a second part that we add the composting toilets and delete

[1:33:01] Voice 19: the principal dwelling or does that?

[1:33:06] Trustee Peterson (probable): So let's do that in a separate motion so we're not conflating

[1:33:09] Trustee Peterson (probable): multiple issues. Okay thanks.

[1:33:11] Trustee Peterson (probable): So let's just stick to the cap and and so I'm going to second the

[1:33:15] Trustee Peterson (probable): motion so that we can move it to discussion and then we'll save the other bits uh for when we

[1:33:20] Trustee Peterson (probable): consider this motion so uh the motion is made and seconded and i will look for discussion

[1:33:29] Trustee Peterson (probable): justin scott i'd

[1:33:31] Voice 4: like to get

[1:33:34] Voice 7: alex's idea on the second half which is the principal residence no

[1:33:40] Voice 7: we're not that's why we're separating it okay i

[1:33:43] Trustee Peterson (probable): do i understand that because what we're talking

[1:33:45] Trustee Peterson (probable): about now is the number and the cap so let's stick to that when we've dealt with this motion

[1:33:51] Trustee Peterson (probable): we'll consider the other bits okay is that fair i

[1:33:56] Voice 7: think we should do it the other way around well

[1:33:57] Trustee Peterson (probable): we have a motion on the floor that's talking about the cap and not the other piece so let's

[1:34:01] Trustee Peterson (probable): stick to this okay we're gonna we're gonna talk about the cap and then we'll go and talk about

[1:34:07] Trustee Peterson (probable): the other things so on the motion on the floor any discussion well

[1:34:17] Voice 7: the rationale for the 65 worked

[1:34:19] Voice 7: just about a month ago and the rationale for the numbers everybody's shaking their heads

[1:34:24] Voice 7: like crazy around here but that whole thing about what other municipalities have done about the 10

[1:34:30] Voice 7: how many dwelling units there are on the island

[1:34:34] Voice 10: i

[1:34:35] Voice 7: mean when we say we're you know we're different

[1:34:40] Voice 7: than other communities but other communities have thought this stuff through too as well

[1:34:44] Voice 7: Well, so to me, the issue of the cap and the issue of the other half of it are intricately linked.

[1:35:00] Trustee Peterson (probable): Understood.

[1:35:05] Trustee Peterson (probable): Anything else, Trustee Allen?

[1:35:10] Voice 19: Well, I can go on and say over and over again, but I'm not going to.

[1:35:17] Voice 19: This is what staff has recommended back in January.

[1:35:20] Voice 19: We should have accepted that and not gone over and looked at other communities.

[1:35:25] Voice 19: Mayor Mrakas, Okay,

[1:35:30] Trustee Peterson (probable): anything further on the motion on the floor, not hearing me i'm going to call the question, all those in favor and any opposed want to post Okay, so the motion carries so trustee Alan I don't know if you managed to find the template bits there that we used for the last one.

[1:36:02] Voice 19: um well do we have to say get rid of the principal dwelling or do we just do it not have it in an

[1:36:09] Voice 19: emotion i'm just uh i'm not sure well

[1:36:11] Trustee Peterson (probable): it's in the draft right now so if you want to remove it

[1:36:15] Trustee Peterson (probable): yes then

[1:36:16] Trustee Peterson (probable): use the use the the part of the the motion uh number one like we did last time

[1:36:23] Voice 19: okay so

[1:36:24] Trustee Peterson (probable): get one and then you could say by removing let's go back i'm

[1:36:31] Voice 19: not opting in

[1:36:32] Voice 19: okay i'll do it i'm

[1:36:33] Trustee Peterson (probable): removing section one point one one c v i okay

[1:36:48] Voice 19: i'm moving

[1:36:49] Voice 19: yeah

[1:36:49] Trustee Peterson (probable): just just we're just gonna uh the rpm and i are just confirming that we're

[1:36:57] Trustee Peterson (probable): getting the right citations in the draft

[1:36:59] Trustee Peterson (probable): here, so we're all, not just

[1:37:01] Trustee Peterson (probable): right on the same page, but

[1:37:03] Trustee Peterson (probable): correct. I've got

[1:37:08] Trustee Peterson (probable): it as section

[1:37:09] Trustee Peterson (probable): 1.11

[1:37:13] Trustee Peterson (probable): CVI.

[1:37:14] Trustee Peterson (probable): That's

[1:37:16] Trustee Peterson (probable): the principal residence as I see it in the draft.

[1:37:19] Trustee Peterson (probable): Can you concur?

[1:37:21] Trustee Peterson (probable): I

[1:37:22] Voice 19: can't see it.

[1:37:23] Voice 19: Not there. Page

[1:37:24] Trustee Peterson (probable): 46, 47 of the agenda, sir.

[1:37:29] Voice 19: The second

[1:37:30] Voice 19: in 1.1 c that's not b oh vi that's right yeah

[1:37:44] Trustee Peterson (probable): sorry i was

[1:37:45] Voice 19: looking for b oh

[1:37:47] Trustee Peterson (probable): i'm not

[1:37:49] Trustee Peterson (probable): annunciating correctly okay

[1:37:51] Voice 19: that makes sense all right yes so here we go i move that the

[1:37:55] Voice 19: hornby island bylaw number 177 cited as hornby island land use bylaw number 150 2014 amendment

[1:38:04] Voice 19: amendment number one 2024 be amended with the following by removing section 1.1.1 vi c

[1:38:21] Trustee Peterson (probable): vi vvi

[1:38:25] Trustee Peterson (probable): okay we all know what we're doing here now right that's the principal residence piece

[1:38:30] Trustee Peterson (probable): and i'll just check with our amazing minute taker who i know is miles ahead of us but

[1:38:35] Trustee Peterson (probable): but make just confirm that we've got the same information.

[1:38:39] Voice 13: Chair Peterson, can you confirm if that was section 1.11

[1:38:43] Voice 13: or 1.1.1?

[1:38:47] Trustee Peterson (probable): It's 1.11.

[1:38:49] Voice 13: Ah.

[1:38:52] Voice 13: CVI. CVI.

[1:38:54] Voice 13: Understood.

[1:38:55] Trustee Peterson (probable): Yes.

[1:38:55] Voice 13: Would you like it read back?

[1:38:57] Voice 13: Yes, please.

[1:38:58] Voice 13: That the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee

[1:39:01] Voice 13: bylaw number 177,

[1:39:03] Voice 13: cited as Hornby Island Land Use Bylaw number 150-2014,

[1:39:08] Voice 13: Amendment number 1-2024, be amended by removing Section 1.11-C-V-I.

[1:39:18] Trustee Peterson (probable): Okay, we're all on the same page then.

[1:39:21] Trustee Peterson (probable): So we'll take that as moved, Trustee Allen.

[1:39:24] Voice 19: Yes, thanks.

[1:39:25] Trustee Peterson (probable): Okay, I'll second the motion.

[1:39:28] Trustee Peterson (probable): And discussion?

[1:39:30] Voice 19: No.

[1:39:30] Voice 5: No discussion?

[1:39:39] Voice 21: No.

[1:39:41] Trustee Peterson (probable): i'll call the question all those in favor aye

[1:39:44] Voice 19: okay

[1:39:45] Trustee Peterson (probable): so that carries

[1:39:46] Voice 19: all right

[1:39:50] Trustee Peterson (probable): now all of the

[1:39:52] Trustee Peterson (probable): other bits that you talked about the wastewater water management trustee allen and stuff that

[1:39:56] Trustee Peterson (probable): remains in the current draft yes and

[1:40:00] Trustee Peterson (probable): so are there any other amendments to the draft that

[1:40:05] Trustee Peterson (probable): trustees want to consider before we go back up to the main recommendations today um

[1:40:11] Voice 19: well i would

[1:40:11] Voice 19: like to i don't know if it's a good time address what was raised and by one of the speakers

[1:40:17] Voice 19: regarding whether the spread of out of winter winter months in rentals um like probably opening

[1:40:26] Voice 19: up a can of worms but um yes i kind of would like to hear from staff about whether we could get a

[1:40:35] Voice 19: staff report on that in terms of is that too much to ask regarding the temporary use permits as well

[1:40:40] Voice 19: or is it well

[1:40:42] Trustee Peterson (probable): i want to speak for staff but um i want to i think it's important to recognize

[1:40:49] Trustee Peterson (probable): that that is uh going into a further um area that we don't have in the draft today

[1:40:59] Voice 5: and

[1:40:59] Trustee Peterson (probable): so it's important that the ltc are all uh cognizant of the timelines if you would like this

[1:41:12] Trustee Peterson (probable): if you want to buy a lot this by lot to proceed uh and have a chance of being adopted before

[1:41:18] Trustee Peterson (probable): the end of term then i would recommend not making uh not making a dead amendment amendments that

[1:41:26] Trustee Peterson (probable): are going to require further staff reporting because that's going to kick the can down the

[1:41:29] Trustee Peterson (probable): road and timeline and we'll run out of runway yeah

[1:41:32] Voice 19: thanks i agree uh

[1:41:35] Trustee Peterson (probable): rpm camera through the

[1:41:37] Voice 12: chair if i may offer if there are questions um that to pose them um if anything i can confirm

[1:41:47] Voice 12: with planner zubinik and connect that way um however if there is information that a trustee

[1:41:55] Voice 12: would request staff to do it should be in a function so um i'm just i'm just i do want to

[1:42:02] Voice 12: click there's an opportunity to clarify some information here yeah yeah

[1:42:07] Trustee Peterson (probable): and i'll just also

[1:42:09] Trustee Peterson (probable): add a point of clarification i i have nothing invested either way whether um you want to add

[1:42:16] Trustee Peterson (probable): further amendments or do direct staff to do more work at this point i just wanted to clarify

[1:42:23] Trustee Peterson (probable): if your intention is to um to to complete this part of the project before the end of term

[1:42:31] Trustee Peterson (probable): um adding more staff reporting or more work is is is going to make that less likely to happen so

[1:42:39] Trustee Peterson (probable): uh not in any way trying to restrict you from from doing events and whatever you think is important

[1:42:46] Trustee Peterson (probable): um just looking strictly realistically at the timelines okay

[1:42:52] Voice 19: i'll park it and then i have a

[1:42:53] Voice 19: question um it's not quite painted this but it's what um karen ross brought up about the public

[1:43:00] Voice 19: use zoning i thought that we had changed that it's um community housing into

[1:43:07] Trustee Peterson (probable): the work program

[1:43:08] Trustee Peterson (probable): because i have a direct question for staff around that so

[1:43:11] Voice 19: can we talk about that later yes i i've

[1:43:14] Trustee Peterson (probable): made myself a note i'm i'm gonna i'll bring that up um when we get to the work program okay good

[1:43:20] Voice 19: because i wanted to yeah i know you

[1:43:22] Trustee Peterson (probable): don't want it to get lost yeah yeah okay

[1:43:24] Trustee Peterson (probable): and um through the

[1:43:27] Voice 12: chair the i'm just circling back to um page 39 of the agenda where um there are recommendations yes

[1:43:37] Trustee Peterson (probable): that's where i was going to bring

[1:43:38] Trustee Peterson (probable): us back to thank you

[1:43:39] Trustee Peterson (probable): okay um so on page 39 if the ltc is

[1:43:46] Trustee Peterson (probable): satisfied that the draft by law is ready to ready to advance

[1:43:51] Trustee Peterson (probable): as with its current amendments that we

[1:43:55] Trustee Peterson (probable): just made um on page 39 top 39 there are some recommendations and i think the only way the only

[1:44:05] Trustee Peterson (probable): thing that we would need to do in fact because we've amended them in separate motions we don't

[1:44:10] Trustee Peterson (probable): need to add amendment uh as amended to attachment to is that correct we've amended the attachment

[1:44:16] Voice 12: um we've amended

[1:44:17] Trustee Peterson (probable): the by the draft bylaw through

[1:44:21] Voice 12: the chair i believe we still need a resolution

[1:44:23] Voice 12: to give those other proposed amendments direction to be read.

[1:44:30] Voice 12: So I think it's with the exception of those two resolutions

[1:44:34] Voice 12: to give this a reading as per recommendation one.

[1:44:41] Trustee Peterson (probable): Okay.

[1:44:43] Voice 19: I'll move.

[1:44:45] Trustee Peterson (probable): Okay, so then it's going to be, we will add the be amended

[1:44:54] Trustee Peterson (probable): as per attachment two as amended.

[1:44:57] Trustee Peterson (probable): Okay.

[1:44:57] Trustee Peterson (probable): Through the chair, yes.

[1:44:58] Trustee Peterson (probable): Okay.

[1:44:59] Trustee Peterson (probable): So as long as you're putting the amended in the right spot.

[1:45:02] Trustee Peterson (probable): Trustee Allen?

[1:45:03] Voice 19: I just want to move.

[1:45:07] Trustee Peterson (probable): Okay.

[1:45:07] Trustee Peterson (probable): So just add as amended after Attachment 2.

[1:45:11] Voice 19: For each one?

[1:45:13] Voice 19: No,

[1:45:13] Trustee Peterson (probable): just the first one.

[1:45:15] Voice 19: The first.

[1:45:16] Trustee Peterson (probable): The first one.

[1:45:17] Voice 19: Yeah.

[1:45:18] Voice 19: Okay.

[1:45:18] Voice 19: I move that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee.

[1:45:21] Voice 19: Here, I'll make it bigger.

[1:45:24] Voice 19: Local Trust Committee By-law number 177, cited as Hornby Island Land Use By-law number 150,

[1:45:29] Voice 19: 2014, Amendment number 1, 2024, be amended as per Attachment 2 of the staff.

[1:45:37] Trustee Peterson (probable): As per

[1:45:38] Trustee Peterson (probable): Attachment 2, as amended.

[1:45:39] Trustee Peterson (probable): As per

[1:45:39] Voice 19: amended. Right?

[1:45:45] Voice 17: Yeah. Of

[1:45:46] Voice 17: the staff report, et cetera.

[1:45:48] Voice 19: Okay. Of the staff report dated March 20th, 2026.

[1:45:53] Trustee Peterson (probable): Okay. So moved.

[1:46:01] Voice 17: that was removed that was the second motion which you voted in favor

[1:46:07] Voice 17: i thought

[1:46:09] Trustee Peterson (probable): that was removing section i thought 111 cvi that was i thought that was about the

[1:46:17] Trustee Peterson (probable): water and composting toilet no the water and

[1:46:20] Trustee Peterson (probable): compost and toilet are still in there

[1:46:24] Trustee Peterson (probable): all of the all of the other bits the only thing that was changed so far

[1:46:29] Trustee Peterson (probable): were the number of the

[1:46:30] Trustee Peterson (probable): cap and we're living so now

[1:46:33] Voice 7: there's 87 is

[1:46:38] Voice 17: the calf correct and there's no

[1:46:40] Voice 17: principal residence requirement okay we have a motion on the floor would you like to second

[1:46:52] Voice 17: the motion i'm

[1:46:54] Trustee Peterson (probable): not exactly sure when i second okay uh i'll second the motion and just because

[1:46:59] Trustee Peterson (probable): i want for clarity so we made two motions prior to this one amended the number of the cap the second

[1:47:06] Trustee Peterson (probable): one removed the principal residence piece now we're taking that bylaw with the cap change and

[1:47:16] Trustee Peterson (probable): the um personal principal residence removed and the mo this motion is to scroll scroll scroll

[1:47:27] Trustee Peterson (probable): roll this motion is to amend the bylaw as we have just with those bits into it now so

[1:47:44] Voice 17: with a cap

[1:47:45] Trustee Peterson (probable): change principal

[1:47:46] Voice 17: residence that's what the function of this motion

[1:47:49] Voice 7: is but what i was going to propose

[1:47:52] Voice 7: was the principal residence given priority but what the uv7 the 20 is approximately how

[1:48:04] Voice 7: money from the island of residence so the other now 67 would be for non-residents so that seemed

[1:48:13] Voice 7: to me like a pretty good compromise okay

[1:48:16] Voice 17: i'm gonna turn to um our camera on this question

[1:48:22] Voice 17: and please go ahead through

[1:48:24] Voice 12: the chair um the question of could there be written into the

[1:48:30] Voice 12: proposed amendment the proposed regulation for priority is not possible because the ltc does not

[1:48:41] Voice 12: have the authority through the zoning through the land use bylaw regulations to give a priority for

[1:48:49] Voice 12: residents we can look at another way of doing that through how the temporary use permit process

[1:49:01] Voice 12: process happens, but that's not to be written into the land use bylaw. So we can look at

[1:49:08] Voice 12: other ways, for example, a date stamp or a timing, a deadline. However, I don't want

[1:49:16] Voice 12: to elaborate on those pieces except to say it's not possible to write that into the land

[1:49:23] Voice 12: use bylaw because that's beyond the ability and ability to do that.

[1:49:30] Voice 17: okay so and then as far as

[1:49:35] Voice 11: yeah

[1:49:36] Trustee Peterson (probable): yeah i agree um so then as far as um the potential to proceed with something like that

[1:49:45] Trustee Peterson (probable): would you want it's not pursuant to this motion but would you want some staff direction to do

[1:49:52] Trustee Peterson (probable): that or could stuff be able to just provide some information to the ltc in the future

[1:49:58] Trustee Peterson (probable): sure so through

[1:49:59] Voice 17: through

[1:50:01] Voice 12: the chair um that in the staff report um we've indicated that you'll see

[1:50:07] Voice 12: the ltc will see another

[1:50:09] Voice 12: staff report to talk about the temporary use process and how that

[1:50:13] Voice 12: would work because there's a couple pieces to confirm with um the overall process and

[1:50:20] Voice 12: how that happens so um that will come back to the local trust committee following the direction

[1:50:27] Voice 12: to make those proposed amendments.

[1:50:30] Voice 17: Okay, okay, that's good.

[1:50:33] Voice 17: Trustee Allen?

[1:50:35] Voice 19: Yeah, I'm just exactly echoing what Renee said that,

[1:50:38] Voice 19: yeah, we would bring that up at our next meeting

[1:50:40] Voice 19: when they come back with a TUP report.

[1:50:44] Voice 19: That's why I envisioned it, not now.

[1:50:47] Trustee Peterson (probable): Okay, so right now the motion on the floor

[1:50:49] Trustee Peterson (probable): is considering the land use by-law

[1:50:57] Trustee Peterson (probable): as as just amended so anything further on the motion on the floor

[1:51:12] Trustee Peterson (probable): just see we have a motion on the floor i'd rather we get through the motion before the break if

[1:51:19] Trustee Peterson (probable): that's yes

[1:51:21] Voice 19: please we

[1:51:23] Trustee Peterson (probable): do have we do have a break scheduled uh coming up but not quite yet five

[1:51:29] Voice 19: minutes um

[1:51:30] Trustee Peterson (probable): so but just to clarify where we are at with the bylaw now as we're considering it in this

[1:51:43] Trustee Peterson (probable): motion just to reiterate no longer has provincial residents and the cap is 87 and so that's

[1:51:53] Trustee Peterson (probable): understood that's what we're voting on advancing it by lock like that so i'll look for anything

[1:52:01] Trustee Peterson (probable): further any further discussion on the motion in front of us okay I'm not

[1:52:12] Trustee Peterson (probable): sitting so I would like to call the question on the motion or the bylaw and

[1:52:19] Trustee Peterson (probable): all those in favor aye

[1:52:23] Voice 19: okay

[1:52:26] Trustee Peterson (probable): and any opposed one opposed the motion carries

[1:52:32] Trustee Peterson (probable): we still have a few minutes so trustee Allen are you

[1:52:37] Voice 19: that the

[1:52:38] Voice 19: The Hornby Island Local Trust Committee bylaw number 177 cited as Hornby Island land use bylaw number 150-2014, amendment number 1-2024, be read a second time as amended.

[1:52:50] Trustee Peterson (probable): Moved. I'll second the motion and discussion.

[1:52:59] Trustee Peterson (probable): Not hearing any discussion, I'm going to call the question. All those in favor?

[1:53:03] Voice 8: Aye.

[1:53:05] Trustee Peterson (probable): And any opposed?

[1:53:08] Trustee Peterson (probable): One opposed.

[1:53:08] Trustee Peterson (probable): I

[1:53:11] Voice 19: move that the Hornbeer and Local Trust Committee request staff to schedule a community information meeting and public hearing for proposed bylaws numbers 176 OCP and 177 LUB.

[1:53:25] Trustee Peterson (probable): Moved. I'll second the motion and look for any discussion.

[1:53:35] Trustee Peterson (probable): Not hearing any discussion, I'm going to call the question. All those in favor?

[1:53:44] Trustee Peterson (probable): Trustee Allen?

[1:53:45] Voice 19: Aye. I'm sorry. Aye.

[1:53:46] Trustee Peterson (probable): Okay. Thank you. And that carries unanimously.

[1:53:52] Trustee Peterson (probable): okay uh check here so is there anything further on this item uh from staff's perspective today

[1:54:14] Voice 12: through the chair so the next steps is for staff to schedule the community information meeting

[1:54:21] Voice 12: and the public hearing the public hearing could be scheduled uh possibly as early as

[1:54:27] Voice 10: so okay we'll

[1:54:29] Voice 12: go for that there will be advertising for both

[1:54:32] Voice 12: through the chair there will be advertising on the next steps for the community information meeting

[1:54:38] Voice 12: and the public hearing we'll look at uh possibly scheduling it as early as may 1st but you'll see

[1:54:44] Voice 12: advertising for that in the papers yeah

[1:54:47] Trustee Peterson (probable): and

[1:54:47] Voice 12: on the website so

[1:54:50] Trustee Peterson (probable): it could be as early as may 1st but

[1:54:51] Trustee Peterson (probable): we're not we're not promising that that's the earliest it can be that makes sense and there

[1:54:58] Trustee Peterson (probable): will be advertising we have statutory rules about the advertising in advance anyway so

[1:55:04] Trustee Peterson (probable): okay so other than that trustees anything further on the major project this time

[1:55:13] Voice 19: just like a little break uh

[1:55:15] Trustee Peterson (probable): yeah we are actually we're just about under scheduled break

[1:55:18] Trustee Peterson (probable): uh so i'm going to recess the meeting then and we'll come back at 205.

[1:55:27] Voice 4: if anyone's residents

[1:55:29] Voice 4: or not, we'd like to share some of your reasons.

[2:26:03] Voice 10: that

[2:26:12] Voice 17: doesn't bother me either way

[2:26:24] Voice 12: but thank you i'll think about this next time

[2:26:49] let me

[2:27:07] Trustee Peterson (probable): talk to order justin scott's going to rejoin us a minute but i'd like to

[2:27:14] Trustee Peterson (probable): keep us moving here so we are on to section

[2:27:19] Trustee Peterson (probable): Section 12, we have one item in there, 12.1, which is regarding the Hornby Festival and Fall Fair,

[2:27:30] Trustee Peterson (probable): but I believe we can probably receive this for information because we did include it in a previous motion.

[2:27:38] Trustee Peterson (probable): Trustee Allen, go ahead.

[2:27:41] Voice 19: Sorry, Tim, can you just reference the page numbers as well?

[2:27:44] Trustee Peterson (probable): Okay, yeah,

[2:27:45] Voice 19: that was page 49.

[2:27:46] Trustee Peterson (probable): Thanks.

[2:27:47] Trustee Peterson (probable): I think this is just received this for information.

[2:27:50] Trustee Peterson (probable): So that brings us on to page 50, which is the Meeting Procedure Repeal By-law for Adoption.

[2:28:00] Trustee Peterson (probable): We should all be fairly familiar with this.

[2:28:03] Trustee Peterson (probable): Trust Council has brought in

[2:28:04] Voice 17: an area-wide meeting procedures by-law.

[2:28:09] Voice 17: This is just repealing

[2:28:14] Trustee Peterson (probable): the previous Hornby-specific one, and we've been through the previous reading.

[2:28:19] Trustee Peterson (probable): so this is the final adoption we have a recommendation at the top of page 50.

[2:28:27] Voice 24: trustee scott can

[2:28:29] Voice 7: i make a motion that people in this room are going to agree with

[2:28:35] Voice 5: free pizza

[2:28:36] Voice 5: that

[2:28:38] Voice 7: the hornby island local trust committee bylaw 179 cited as hornby island's

[2:28:43] Voice 7: local trust committee meeting procedures repeal bylaw number 179 2025 be adopted

[2:28:53] Voice 7: and seconded by trustee

[2:28:55] Trustee Peterson (probable): allen any discussion required

[2:28:58] Trustee Peterson (probable): hearing any i'll call the question all those in favor all right and that motion carries okay so

[2:29:06] Trustee Peterson (probable): on to the next item at 13.2 page 53 this is a briefing uh on the short-term rental

[2:29:17] Trustee Peterson (probable): accommodation act provincial provincial credential requirement requirement opt-in and the briefing

[2:29:25] Trustee Peterson (probable): and i'll turn it over to staff this briefing has gone out to all local trust committees just for

[2:29:30] Trustee Peterson (probable): information and over to uh our p.m jamara thank

[2:29:35] Voice 12: you through the chair um this is before the ltc

[2:29:39] Voice 12: it has come forward in a previous year this follows the provincial regulated principal

[2:29:51] Voice 12: So there is a deadline, which is why you're seeing this briefing to opt into the provincial

[2:29:57] Voice 12: provincial principles.

[2:30:00] Voice 12: resident requirement by march 31st it's an option that the ldc may take it's not a requirement

[2:30:08] Voice 12: for islands trust opting in means the provincial restriction on short-term rental accommodations

[2:30:15] Voice 12: will override any schemes that the local trust committee or island municipalities such as bowen

[2:30:22] Voice 12: island has enacted and where there would be a conflict between them so that's before you

[2:30:31] Voice 12: should the ltc opt in and then change their mind you would have to wait for the following year to

[2:30:38] Voice 12: pass another resolution to object okay

[2:30:43] Trustee Peterson (probable): thank you for that and given that we've removed uh such a

[2:30:48] Trustee Peterson (probable): requirement from the bylaw i'm i'm going to make the rash assumption that we can probably receive

[2:30:53] Trustee Peterson (probable): this for information yes

[2:30:56] Voice 8: okay

[2:30:57] Trustee Peterson (probable): so moving along 13.3 is extending advisory planning commission

[2:31:02] Trustee Peterson (probable): appointments for discussion i believe trustee allen you've brought this uh forward and

[2:31:13] Voice 17: uh but

[2:31:15] Voice 17: i'll let the staff if there's any advice you'd like to provide us uh before we get into this

[2:31:26] Voice 19: no okay

[2:31:27] Trustee Peterson (probable): um so trustee allen did you want to discuss this yeah

[2:31:33] Voice 19: to be honest i'm confused about

[2:31:36] Voice 19: is every one of the members up for renewal or they're aspiring um to be honest i haven't

[2:31:43] Voice 19: looked this up to be honest because i've been busy doing sleeping anyways um so

[2:31:53] Voice 19: as i understand i thought it would be easier for us to just renew the appointments until

[2:31:59] Voice 19: a new term is that is that doable uh renee staff through

[2:32:08] Voice 12: the chair um my my suggestion would be to

[2:32:13] Voice 12: to have, you can have a resolution,

[2:32:16] Voice 12: if you know exactly who you would like to point.

[2:32:21] Voice 12: However, that should come through an in-camera,

[2:32:24] Voice 12: should there be any discussion before a decision is made.

[2:32:28] Voice 12: And then in open, you would announce who that is.

[2:32:32] Voice 12: Staff can also bring back a formal report suggesting renewal,

[2:32:37] Voice 12: if you would like to give that direction,

[2:32:40] Voice 12: trust me, we're happy, staff are happy to do that.

[2:32:42] Voice 12: I

[2:32:42] Voice 19: think I'd like that for staff to come back for a report next meeting, if possible.

[2:32:48] Voice 19: So I move that staff advise on APC appointment renewal for the next trust meeting in

[2:33:06] Voice 5: May.

[2:33:08] Voice 19: Is that enough?

[2:33:10] Voice 19: Is that sufficient direction?

[2:33:11] Voice 19: to

[2:33:13] Voice 12: bring back advising planning committee appointments for okay

[2:33:20] Trustee Peterson (probable): yeah that's moved and

[2:33:22] Trustee Peterson (probable): seconded uh any discussion required nope i'll call the question all those in favor

[2:33:30] Trustee Peterson (probable): hi

[2:33:31] Voice 8: that

[2:33:32] Trustee Peterson (probable): carries as we have no trust conservancy report we do have an applications report on page

[2:33:39] Trustee Peterson (probable): page 72. I'll see if there's anything staff would like to highlight on that no no so any questions

[2:33:47] Trustee Peterson (probable): from trustees on the applications report nope okay and then we have the trustee local expense report

[2:33:58] Trustee Peterson (probable): in January 2026 on page 79 anything from anyone on that no

[2:34:04] Voice 19: uh

[2:34:06] Trustee Peterson (probable): next is the adopted policies and

[2:34:08] Trustee Peterson (probable): standing resolutions report on page 80 anything there today um

[2:34:17] Voice 19: no but i'm wondering when we're

[2:34:19] Voice 19: addressing ms ross's concerns uh

[2:34:23] Trustee Peterson (probable): we'll do that in section 14 14

[2:34:25] Voice 19: okay thank you

[2:34:26] Trustee Peterson (probable): okay so uh anything

[2:34:29] Trustee Peterson (probable): on the local trust committee web page today nothing no so that brings us to section 14 which

[2:34:37] Trustee Peterson (probable): is the work program um we have the active projects report on page 84 and the future projects report

[2:34:45] Trustee Peterson (probable): on page 85. um and if are there there's any questions or uh staff have anything to highlight

[2:34:57] Trustee Peterson (probable): on either of those items that's

[2:34:59] Voice 17: great and if not we'll go into the discussion on the uh public

[2:35:04] Voice 17: easily but

[2:35:05] Voice 12: you're nothing for the active projects report on pgd for the agenda and no um no updates

[2:35:14] Voice 12: for the active projects list either okay

[2:35:17] Trustee Peterson (probable): um so we did receive a request

[2:35:22] Trustee Peterson (probable): request um to include community housing into the public use zone um my sense is that that could be

[2:35:37] Trustee Peterson (probable): a minor project however um I think the appropriate thing to do at this Juncture is to put that on the

[2:35:46] Trustee Peterson (probable): the minor projects list i don't believe we can expect it to get resourced at this moment

[2:35:54] Trustee Peterson (probable): um but we can check in with staff on that and i'll recognize trustee allen staffers trustee

[2:36:03] Voice 19: allen trustee allen um well in part one on page 43 part 1 1.8 part 8 zone regulations section 8.21

[2:36:16] Voice 19: on public use zone sub anyways amended by adding a new site specific regulation after d recycling

[2:36:25] Voice 19: depot that reads community housing so i'm under the impression we've already done this is this

[2:36:31] Voice 19: not correct this is already here reads page 43 part well there's a bunch of part eights but uh

[2:36:41] Voice 19: Which part is it?

[2:36:44] Voice 19: Page 43, part 1, part 3, 1, 2, 3, 4, the fifth part 8, just before number 10, part 10.

[2:36:56] Voice 19: You see that section?

[2:36:58] Trustee Peterson (probable): That means community houses and that's it.

[2:37:00] Voice 19: Yes.

[2:37:03] Voice 19: So I thought

[2:37:05] Trustee Peterson (probable): we did this already.

[2:37:06] Voice 19: Yeah.

[2:37:07] Voice 19: I'm under

[2:37:08] Trustee Peterson (probable): impression we already did.

[2:37:09] Voice 19: Sorry.

[2:37:10] Trustee Peterson (probable): Yeah, I believe you're correct.

[2:37:11] Trustee Peterson (probable): I believe that looks to be in the bylaw that we just advanced.

[2:37:15] Voice 19: Yeah.

[2:37:15] Voice 19: And then also regarding the letter that was

[2:37:19] Voice 20: to separate it from.

[2:37:22] Voice 20: Oh, sorry.

[2:37:23] Trustee Peterson (probable): You wanted to separate that out and make it a discrete project.

[2:37:28] Trustee Peterson (probable): So I think expedited.

[2:37:30] Trustee Peterson (probable): Yeah.

[2:37:30] Voice 1: So I

[2:37:31] Trustee Peterson (probable): think to speak to your desire there, my understanding from staff is this is actually the fastest way to do it is to leave it in here.

[2:37:38] Trustee Peterson (probable): if we separate it out the only way it would advance faster than this as part of this bylaw

[2:37:44] Trustee Peterson (probable): is if we put this major project on hold um i don't want to speak for the trustees but i didn't

[2:37:52] Trustee Peterson (probable): get the sense in any of our deliberations up to this point that that's the desire of trustees to

[2:37:56] Trustee Peterson (probable): put the major project on hold so staff

[2:38:02] Trustee Peterson (probable): advice is that to leave it in here is the way to expedite

[2:38:07] Voice 20: so this would have to be clarified with sonia who i've spoken to about it my understanding in

[2:38:12] Voice 20: a bylaw if there's just something like this that's ready to go that it can just be pulled out and

[2:38:18] Voice 20: everything runs consecutively along but this is streamlined into a faster approval yeah through

[2:38:25] Voice 12: the chair if there are specific questions for an application um i would prefer to just have

[2:38:33] Voice 12: that conversation with staff um but the the amended proposed in sorry the proposed amendment

[2:38:43] Voice 12: for the land use bylaw is on page 43 capturing under 1.8 community housing with some density

[2:38:53] Voice 12: there so if there is more follow-up information you're asking i think my suggestion would be to

[2:38:59] Voice 12: speak to planner zupanek and she can advise if the next step is a application for a rezoning

[2:39:07] Voice 12: or what that would be to submit to advance a proposal if you're a proposal for development

[2:39:13] Voice 20: this was agreed to this was so this

[2:39:17] Voice 20: is all past discussion

[2:39:18] Voice 12: i just i don't want to get into a

[2:39:20] Voice 12: conversation about a particular piece of land um unless it's on the agenda to discuss with the ltc

[2:39:27] Trustee Peterson (probable): but as far as the adding the community housing into that pu's um this this bylaw

[2:39:34] Trustee Peterson (probable): that also addresses the short-term vacation rental addresses putting that wording back in

[2:39:39] Voice 20: the reason for some haste with this it's been three and a half years now we actually had at

[2:39:48] Voice 20: one point assumed that it had already gone through because it was the correction of a clerical error

[2:39:54] Voice 20: of islands trust staff

[2:39:55] Voice 4: when

[2:39:56] Voice 20: the pua zoning was moved into one of the bylaws and that's according

[2:40:01] Voice 20: to former trustee tony law three and a half years ago said that so we've been proceeding with some

[2:40:08] Voice 20: application work saying that that zoning is in place and in fact it's not in place and it could

[2:40:14] Voice 20: hold things up if this bylaw doesn't go through for another year you know it seems very unreasonable

[2:40:23] Voice 20: that this can't just be um expedited and given third reading at the next meeting on may 1st

[2:40:30] Trustee Peterson (probable): under understood um and again i'll just reiterate that that my understanding of staff's advice is

[2:40:40] Trustee Peterson (probable): the way to expedite it is to leave it in this bylaw as this bylaw advances so will that portion

[2:40:46] Trustee Peterson (probable): okay

[2:40:46] Voice 20: so we can get clarification in okay

[2:40:48] Trustee Peterson (probable): okay thank you uh

[2:40:51] Voice 17: trustee

[2:40:54] Voice 19: allen then um there was

[2:40:57] Voice 19: a request for a letter of support but i seem to remember that renee said that we couldn't write

[2:41:03] Voice 19: a letter of support because crown land or something could you spark my memory regarding

[2:41:09] Voice 19: why we couldn't write a letter of support regarding this community housing project on crown land

[2:41:17] Voice 12: through the chair unfortunately not at the top of my head here today okay

[2:41:21] Voice 19: yeah

[2:41:25] Trustee Peterson (probable): and it's good it's good to hear that um you've been in contact with um the regional

[2:41:33] Trustee Peterson (probable): district i know when we had our joint meeting with them uh a little earlier in

[2:41:39] Voice 4: the year they

[2:41:40] Voice 4: get mentioned that that they are for

[2:41:48] Trustee Peterson (probable): um you know crown land lease for for community housing and

[2:41:52] Trustee Peterson (probable): that they are at that time which is actually that's a few months ago now it's in october

[2:41:58] Trustee Peterson (probable): anyway they're talking about uh uh they're seriously looking into building a

[2:42:03] Trustee Peterson (probable): housing authority um and if they proceed with that then they can assist you in in a really

[2:42:12] Trustee Peterson (probable): formal and really productive and helpful way that the local trust committee simply doesn't

[2:42:17] Trustee Peterson (probable): have the jurisdiction to do so um i just encourage you to double back to director harbour see where

[2:42:24] Trustee Peterson (probable): that's at and uh that's

[2:42:28] Voice 20: one of the reasons that came up again after the january 23rd meeting where

[2:42:32] Voice 20: the the motion to write the letter of support was defeated is because uh the regional district is

[2:42:39] Voice 20: forming their housing authority the regional district is interested in perhaps acting as

[2:42:45] Voice 20: a host on an application for crown land

[2:42:47] Voice 4: those

[2:42:48] Voice 20: are all very up in the air of course but

[2:42:51] Voice 20: the support from the local zoning body is very helpful moving any applications forward like that

[2:43:00] Voice 20: and that's where the letter of support from islands trust could be generic

[2:43:03] Voice 20: okay

[2:43:04] Trustee Peterson (probable): um so i'm going to suggest uh because i don't i don't want us to circle back and

[2:43:12] Trustee Peterson (probable): and revisit what we discussed in in january at any length here so i'm going to suggest that

[2:43:19] Trustee Peterson (probable): probably the best thing to do is is for us um uh to request staff to reach out to the

[2:43:28] Trustee Peterson (probable): the regional district and clarify where they're at with that process and how we can be assistive

[2:43:34] Trustee Peterson (probable): um and so that we're we're really kind of you know using our energy and and time efficiently

[2:43:44] Trustee Peterson (probable): to to actually go towards results that are helpful um that would be my recommendation

[2:43:50] Trustee Peterson (probable): does that make sense

[2:43:52] Voice 12: chair um it would have to be a i would suggest a specific motion okay because i

[2:44:00] Voice 12: I wouldn't have enough information to ask staff to investigate that.

[2:44:05] Voice 12: So one way to do that could be, again, through a trustee bringing a motion forward after having some discussion.

[2:44:12] Voice 12: Okay.

[2:44:13] Voice 10: So

[2:44:13] Voice 12: that it's very clear.

[2:44:15] Voice 12: And then we can clarify what is, how best to proceed with that for the LTC to decide if they want to write a letter of support, speak to the regional district, whatever to that effect.

[2:44:29] Trustee Peterson (probable): Sure.

[2:44:29] Trustee Peterson (probable): Sure. And just before I come to you, I'm going to come to you in a moment, Trustee Allen.

[2:44:32] Trustee Peterson (probable): But also, firstly, there's trustees could also individually reach out to the director, Director Harbour, and have a discussion that might then help inform how, like what a motion should contain.

[2:44:53] Trustee Peterson (probable): and that if that if that work is done between now and our main first meeting that we could

[2:44:58] Trustee Peterson (probable): potentially consider um you know the the correctly sort of framed letter at the first meeting

[2:45:05] Trustee Peterson (probable): that really does help advance the support in a way that's helpful and useful trustee allen

[2:45:12] Voice 19: yeah i was sort of going that route or you know adding it to the agenda to the next meeting

[2:45:16] Voice 19: and at inviting director arbor to come to that meeting as well okay and

[2:45:23] Trustee Peterson (probable): and trustee alex i know

[2:45:24] Trustee Peterson (probable): this is uh something you're interested in are you are you um would you be willing to do some

[2:45:29] Trustee Peterson (probable): initial outreach to director arbor then and uh and just help to try and frame that and perhaps

[2:45:35] Trustee Peterson (probable): we could even you know we could exchange some emails or something just in preparation for that

[2:45:40] Trustee Peterson (probable): out so yeah i'll work with

[2:45:42] Voice 19: karen as well and daniel if that's okay with karen

[2:45:47] Trustee Peterson (probable): okay

[2:45:48] Trustee Peterson (probable): uh

[2:45:50] Voice 20: chair i'm sorry to keep you interrupting but this would be helpful in that construction for

[2:45:55] Voice 20: that agreement with alex is april 6th at one o'clock the reddit feasibility study that was

[2:46:03] Voice 20: commissioned around this project and around the housing it is an open public hearing so the

[2:46:09] Voice 20: trustees have been invited or asked to save the day for that and other members of the community

[2:46:14] Voice 20: might like to also attend and find out exactly how exciting this project could

[2:46:20] Trustee Peterson (probable): you say that's

[2:46:21] Trustee Peterson (probable): april 6th and that is that is one

[2:46:23] Trustee Peterson (probable): o'clock district no

[2:46:25] Voice 20: it's here it's here at the hall

[2:46:27] Voice 20: and so uh director arbor will be here at that and the consultants that have done the report

[2:46:33] Voice 20: will be here at that okay so

[2:46:35] Voice 20: that would be a very informative time sure and

[2:46:39] Voice 20: i

[2:46:40] Trustee Peterson (probable): know that this

[2:46:41] Trustee Peterson (probable): committee has in the past reached out and in fact i've passed a motion to you

[2:46:46] Voice 17: know to that effect so

[2:46:47] Voice 17: you have something to add the

[2:46:50] Voice 12: best way to have these discussions is to add them to the agenda

[2:46:56] Voice 12: because we're a bit off region yeah

[2:46:58] Trustee Peterson (probable): fair okay so um i will uh trust that trustee allen's going to

[2:47:04] Trustee Peterson (probable): reach out um and then if you can just keep the rest of us staff and trustees informed where that

[2:47:10] Trustee Peterson (probable): goes come to the april 6th meeting if you can and um then we'll do our best to advance this as you

[2:47:18] Trustee Peterson (probable): know as appropriate within within our wheelhouse as it were um so that brings us to the end of the

[2:47:27] Trustee Peterson (probable): agenda our next meeting is scheduled for may 1st right here at 11 30 a.m assuming the fairies run

[2:47:33] Trustee Peterson (probable): on time um and so i will then call for adjournment and uh thanks to all the staff that uh joined us

[2:47:44] Trustee Peterson (probable): online

[2:47:44] Voice 17: and in person and i really appreciate that and have a great afternoon everyone thanks

[2:47:59] Voice 11: thanks everyone

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Hornby Island ADOPTED 1 of 8 
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March 20, 2026 
                     Hornby Island Local Trust Committee 
Minutes of Regular Meeting 
 
Date:  
Location:  
March 20, 2026 
Hornby Island Community Hall 
Central Road, Hornby Island, BC 
 
Members Present: Timothy Peterson, Chair 
 Alex Allen, Local Trustee (electronic) 
 Grant Scott, Local Trustee 
  
Staff Present: Renée Jamurat, Regional Planning Manager 
 Ian Cox, Planner 2 (electronic) 
Rob Pingle, Planning Technician (electronic) 
 Lisa Millard, Meeting Administrator/Recorder (electronic) 
  
Others Present: There were approximately 51 members of the public in attendance. 
 
1. CALL TO ORDER 
Chair Peterson called the meeting to order at 11:38 a.m. 
2. TERRITORIAL ACKNOWLEDGEMENT 
Chair Peterson acknowledged that the meeting was held on the territory of the Coast Salish 
First Nations.  
3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 
By general consent, the agenda was approved as presented. 
4. REPORTS 
4.1 Trustee Reports 
Trustees Allen and Scott did not provide reports. 
4.2 Chair's Report 
Chair Peterson reported the following: 
• The recent Trust Council meeting focused on the adoption of the budget which 
will result in a property tax increase of $20 to $40 based on the average value of 
homes located within the Trust Area; 
• The Draft Trust Policy Statement project will not be completed by the end of the 
current term as referral responses and community feedback continue to be 
analysed and considered by Trust Council. 
4.3 Electoral Area Director's Report - None 
4.4 Islands Trust Conservancy Report - None 

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March 20, 2026 
5. PUBLIC COMMENTS 
Chair Peterson noted the Meeting Procedures Bylaw specifies a public comment period be 
limited to 15 minutes, which can be extended by the Local Trust Committee. He stated a 
significant number of comments have been received regarding short-term vacation rentals 
during previous public comment period, at the March 3 special meeting, and through email 
and asked that members of the public speak to new information not already heard. 
Several members of the public spoke to the requirement of permanent residency as a 
condition of operating a short-term vacation rental and the following points were recorded: 
• Part time residents have been coming to the island for years and are considered 
members of the community; 
• The requirement will impact the younger population and the economy negatively; 
• Over 40% of home owners are part time residents and members of the community will 
be harmed if the permanent residency requirement is enacted; 
• Those that are not permanent residents will be cut off from coming to the island that 
they have been coming to for years; 
• Many island homes are multi-generational properties and without the ability to offset 
costs through vacation rentals there will be a permanent loss of families; 
• Families have inherited properties and if they can not rent them, they will sell them and 
this will change the demographics of the island; 
• Islanders share the same values of sustainability regardless of residency status. 
A member of the public spoke to short-term rentals not being permitted in winter months, 
the negative impacts of the residency requirement, and asked what the selection process 
would be if all applicants met the requirements of a Temporary Use Permit and there were 
more applications than the cap. 
A member of the public stated the number of rental units compared to population works out 
to 1 in 10 which results in negative impacts on the community and Trustees are supposed to 
represent the entire island and not only rental operators who make up a small percentage of 
the population. 
A member of the public stated vacation rentals represent less than 10% of the population 
coming to island in the summer months, members of community will be harmed due to the 
impacts of the permanent residency requirement, the province excluded the Gulf Islands 
from this requirement, there has been no independent analysis to support a cap or 
residency requirement, the Local Trust Committee is closing the door on operators that 
have been compliant for decades, and short-term rental growth has been contained. They 
asked the Local Trust Committee to remove the permanent resident requirement and set a 
cap based on the current number of legal operators. 
A member of the public stated four years ago the reasons given to cap short-term rentals 
were ferry overload and water and septic issues, the Local Trust Committee has not taken 
into account what has been done in the four years since, the decision will affect workers, 
operators are doing a good job, and they think Trustees are not hearing what is being said. 
A member of the public stated the process is flawed, there is no objectivity, and the issue 
should be set aside until a new council is elected and can put a process in place that 
accommodates everyone. 

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March 20, 2026 
By general consent the public hearing period was extended by 10 minutes. 
A member of the public stated Hornby belongs to all of BC, tourism is being cut off, and 
concerns can be addressed in other ways by raising the bar on type of visitors that come. 
A member of the public, representing the Hornby Island Community Economic 
Enhancement Corporation stated approximately 60% of Municipal and Regional Tax (MRDT) 
revenues collected on Hornby are directed towards workforce housing, $250,000 has been 
accumulated and dedicated to affordable workforce housing, balancing housing needs and 
economic vitality is complex, their intention is to ensure the relationship between legally 
operating accommodation providers, workforce housing and the funding that supports 
these initiatives is understood and that implications for MRDT supported programs need to 
be considered before moving forward.  
A member of the public, representing the Hornby Island Community Economic 
Enhancement Corporation submitted a letter requesting the Local Trust Committee provide 
support for the affordable workforce housing initiative including reconsideration of a letter 
of support for securing tenure on the proposed Crown land site based on the progress that 
has been made through discussion with the Comox Valley Regional District and the urgency 
of the housing need. They also request that the correction to the Public Use zoning be 
separated from broader bylaw amendments and fast-tracked. 
A member of the public spoke to the potential negative impacts of the residency 
requirement and asked Trustees to not move forward, leave the decision for the next 
council, and hire professionals to provide information on how to keep the community 
economically viable. 
6. MINUTES 
6.1 Local Trust Committee Meeting Minutes dated January 23, 2026 - for adoption 
By general consent, the Local Trust committee meeting minutes of January 
23, 2026 were adopted. 
6.2 Local Trust Committee Special Meeting Minutes dated March 3, 2026 - for 
adoption 
By general consent, the Local Trust committee meeting minutes of March 
3, 2026 were adopted. 
6.3 Section 26 Resolutions-without-meeting Report - None 
6.4 Advisory Planning Commission Minutes - None 
7. BUSINESS ARISING FROM MINUTES 
7.1 Follow-up Action List Report dated March 12, 2026 
The Regional Planning Manager provided an update on the Follow-up Action List and 
noted the September 13, 2024 request for staff to prepare a briefing on farm stand 
regulations was on hold while the major project underway. 
The Local Trust Committee requested the item be moved to the Minor Projects list.   

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8. DELEGATIONS - None 
9. APPLICATIONS AND REFERRALS 
9.1 PLALR20260065 (9925 Central Road) - Staff Report 
The Planning Technician summarized the staff report and highlighted the following: 
• The application to the Agricultural Land Commission is to permit a non-farm use 
on land in the Agricultural Land Reserve; 
• The Local Trust Committee determines if they wish to forward the application to 
the Agricultural Land Commission; 
• The Property owner has applied for a Temporary Use Permit to allow the use on 
the property; 
• If the Agricultural Land Commission approves the application the Local Trust 
Committee can proceed with considering the Temporary Use Permit application. 
The applicant’s representative was in attendance and presented the following: 
• The owners of the property operate a cattle farm on land within the Agricultural 
Land Reserve; 
• The fall fair and festival events do not impact the land’s suitability for farming; 
• Requested the Local Trust Committee to forward the application to the 
Agricultural Land Commission without comment or delay, and provide a letter of 
support confirming the urgency of matter; 
• The application for a Temporary Use Permit needs to be in process for the 
Agricultural Land Commission application to be successful; however, they can 
not bring a Temporary Use Permit application forward until the Agricultural Land 
Commission approves the non-farm use application; 
• The Agricultural Land Commission has indicated applications take 3 months to 
process; therefore, it will not come back to Local Trust Committee in time for the 
applicant to organize and host the events; 
• A one-year hiatus will harm the long-term viability of the festival; 
• They are already contracting artists and cancellation would result in financial 
penalties; 
• Without required approvals in place it would not be possible to operate the 
events. 
Discussion ensued and the following comments were noted: 
• There is a letter of support included as part of the response; 
• The only way to allow a use not currently permitted is through a Temporary Use 
Permit or a rezoning application; 
• As long as the Temporary Use Permit application is open, and until such time a 
decision is made, the applicant can expect not to have bylaw enforcement to 
take place as confirmed by the Islands Trust Bylaw Enforcement Manager; 
• The Planner will consult with Agricultural Land Commission staff to confirm if a 
Temporary Use Permit can be issued in advance of the Commission’s decision, 
and if permitted it can be brought back to the Local Trust Committee at the May 
1 meeting. 
 

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March 20, 2026 
HO-2026-016 
It was MOVED and SECONDED 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee supports application 
PLALR20260065 for non-farm use in the Agricultural Land Reserve and 
directs staff to forward the application to the Agricultural Land Commission 
for further consideration including a letter of support with the following 
comment: 
Subject to Local Trust Committee approval of a Temporary Use Permit, 
the property has an open Temporary Use Permit application in-process 
to allow the events within the zone which will be considered subsequent 
to any Agricultural Land Commission approval. 
CARRIED 
10. LOCAL TRUST COMMITTEE PROJECTS 
10.1 Major Project: Hornby Island Official Community Plan and Land Use Bylaw 
Review - Staff Report 
The Regional Planning Manager summarized the staff report and highlighted the 
following: 
• Amendments, as directed at the March 3 meeting, have been incorporated into 
the draft bylaw including a cap of 65 Temporary Use Permits, the requirement for 
principal residency, and draft guideline language; 
• Should additional information be requested from staff it is unlikely that the 
bylaw would be approved prior to the end of the term. 
Discussion ensued and the following comments were noted: 
• The previous staff report recommended a cap of 87; 
• There is no rationale for the principal dwelling requirement; 
• Some Local Trust Areas have opted into the Provincial principal residency 
requirement; 
• A Trustee noted their rationale for a cap of 65 was based on most municipalities 
not allowing more than 10% of homes be allowed to operate a short-term rental, 
there are on 635 homes on Hornby; therefore, the cap represents more than10% 
of homes. 
• A Trustee stated if the cap was set at 65, priority could be given to principal 
residents leaving a number of Temporary Use Permits available to non residents; 
• Staff clarified the Local Trust Committee, through land use regulations, does not 
have authority to give priority to residents; 
• The Local Trust Committee will be provided with a staff report to see how the 
Temporary Use Permit process will be administered. 
HO-2026-017 
It was MOVED and SECONDED 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 177, cited as 
“Hornby Island Land Use Bylaw No. 150, 2014, Amendment No. 1, 2024” be 
amended by changing the number in section 1.11 (b) from 65 to 87. 
CARRIED 

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HO-2026-018 
It was MOVED and SECONDED 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 177, cited as 
“Hornby Island Land Use Bylaw No. 150, 2014, Amendment No. 1, 2024” be 
amended by removing section 1.11 (c) vi. 
CARRIED 
HO-2026-019 
It was MOVED and SECONDED 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 177 cited as 
“Hornby Island Land Use Bylaw No. 150, 2014, Amendment No. 1, 2024” be 
amended as per Attachment 2 as amended of the staff report dated March 
20, 2026. 
CARRIED 
HO-2026-020 
It was MOVED and SECONDED 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 177 cited as 
“Hornby Island Land Use Bylaw No. 150, 2014, Amendment No. 1, 2024” be 
read a second time as amended. 
CARRIED 
HO-2026-021 
It was MOVED and SECONDED 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee request staff to schedule a 
community information meeting and Public Hearing for Proposed Bylaw 
Nos. 176 (OCP) and 177 (LUB). 
CARRIED 
The meeting was recessed for a break at 1:32 p.m. and reconvened at 2:05 p.m. 
11. CORRESPONDENCE - none 
Correspondence received concerning current applications or projects is posted to the LTC 
webpage 
12. NEW BUSINESS 
12.1 A letter to the Agricultural Land Commission for an Exemption to Continue to 
Hold the Hornby Festival and Fall Fair Annually - Trustee Allen for Discussion 
Received for information. 
13. STAFF REPORTS 
13.1 Hornby Island Local Trust Committee Meeting Procedure Repeal Bylaw No. 179 
- for Adoption - Request for Decision 
The Chair noted the Local Trust Committee adopted Trust Council Bylaw No. 197 
Local Trust Committee Meeting Procedures Bylaw; therefore, the Hornby Local Trust 
Committee Meeting Procedures Bylaw can now be rescinded. 
 HO-2026-022 

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March 20, 2026 
It was MOVED and SECONDED 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw 179, cited as “Hornby 
Island Local Trust Committee Meeting Procedures Repeal Bylaw No. 179, 
2025” be adopted. 
CARRIED 
13.2 Short Term Rental Accommodation Act - Principal Residence Requirement Opt-
In Update - Briefing  
The Regional Planning Manager noted the Executive Committee briefing is a 
reminder that the annual deadline to opt-in to the provincial principal residence 
requirement for short-term rental accommodations is March 31.  
The briefing was received for information. 
13.3 Extending Advisory Planning Commission Appointments - For Discussion 
Trustee Allen inquired if it was possible to renew Advisory Planning Commission 
appointments and the Regional Planning Manager noted the Local Trust Committee 
can renew appointments by resolution at an in-camera meeting or they can request 
staff to bring back a report. 
HO-2026-023 
that the Hornby Island Local Trust Committee request staff bring back a 
report on the renewal of Hornby Island Advisory Planning Commission 
appointments at the next Local Trust Committee meeting. 
CARRIED 
13.4 Trust Conservancy Report - None 
13.5 Applications Report dated March 12, 2026 
Received for information. 
13.6 Trustee and Local Expense Report dated January, 2026 
Received for information. 
13.7 Adopted Policies and Standing Resolutions 
Received for information. 
13.8 Local Trust Committee Webpage - None 
14. WORK PROGRAM 
14.1 Active Projects Report dated March 12, 2026 
Received for information. 
14.2 Future Projects Report dated March 12, 2026 
A member of the public requested that community housing being added into the 
Public Use Zone and that this be separated out from the major project to fast track 
it.  

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March 20, 2026 
Discussion ensued and the following comments were noted: 
• Item 1.8 of Bylaw No. 177 addresses the Public Use Zone; 
• If it were to be separated out as a minor project the major project would be 
required to be put on hold to enable staff capacity to work on a minor project 
and the quickest way to advance it is to keep it within the bylaw; 
• The Regional Planning Manager noted she can address the question with the 
Project Planner. 
Discussion ensued regarding the Local Trust Committee providing a letter of support 
to permit community housing on crown land and Trustee Allen will work with 
Regional District Director Arbour to inform the discussion at an upcoming meeting. 
15. UPCOMING MEETINGS 
15.1 Next Regular Meeting Scheduled for Friday, May 1, 2026 at 11:30 am at Hornby 
Island Community Hall, 4305 Central Road, Hornby Island, BC 
16. ADJOURNMENT 
By general consent, the meeting was adjourned at 2:26 p.m. 
 
 
_________________________ 
Tim Peterson, Chair 
 
Certified Correct: 
 
 
_________________________ 
Lisa Millard, Meeting Administrator/Recorder