Galiano Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, April 11, 2023

[0:00:00] Voice 5: meeting by acknowledging that we're meeting in the territory of coast salish people here

[0:00:07] Voice 5: thankful for that and um i'm tiff peterson chair of the local trust committee and with me our

[0:00:15] Voice 5: trustees with gabbro and iberly and together we're the galliano local trust committee that's not it

[0:00:23] Voice 5: looks like there's not about another five people just showed up

[0:00:25] Voice 13: and

[0:00:35] Voice 5: this meeting is being recorded

[0:00:37] Voice 5: recorded and live streamed for anyone that can't make it today and will be on the I was just website

[0:00:45] Voice 5: within the next week or so um but staff joining us uh today Todd are you're a meeting admin

[0:00:58] Voice 5: are you are and and we've got someone from the south office I hope you're taking minutes for

[0:01:04] Voice 5: us today yes

[0:01:05] Voice 5: yes

[0:01:05] Voice 6: it's sherry yeah hi congrats

[0:01:09] Voice 5: with us

[0:01:10] Voice 4: today as well um

[0:01:14] Voice 5: this is also a place

[0:01:16] Voice 5: of employment and everyone here has a safe and respectful

[0:01:21] Voice 4: workplace that navigate

[0:01:30] Voice 5: the technology

[0:01:31] Voice 5: here um so the first thing that we have here is we've got a rise in report from the in-camera

[0:01:38] Voice 5: a meeting from march 14 2023 i don't seem to have what that was a note on that

[0:01:49] Voice 4: does anyone

[0:01:51] Voice 5: else see what that is i suggest

[0:01:53] Voice 5: we'll just refer to that rising report to the

[0:01:55] Voice 5: next meeting

[0:01:55] Voice 4: right yeah

[0:02:00] Voice 5: this yeah tim's on vacation um okay so we have an agenda before us

[0:02:09] Voice 5: trustees or any additions or changes to the agenda

[0:02:13] Voice 5: okay uh we'll approve the agenda as presented by consent and i'll start with trustee reports

[0:02:23] Voice 5: who would like to go

[0:02:24] Voice 4: lisa

[0:02:25] Voice 5: hello

[0:02:26] Voice 4: everyone thank you for coming uh it's been a very busy month

[0:02:29] Voice 4: uh i've been doing a tremendous amount of uh reading and

[0:02:33] Voice 6: meeting with community members

[0:02:34] Voice 6: I'd like to remind y'all that my trustee hours are Monday from 9 to 11.

[0:02:39] Voice 6: And as a trustee, my decision-making is guided by

[0:02:44] Voice 4: our OCP and a consensus of this community.

[0:02:47] Voice 4: So feel free to pop by and chat.

[0:02:49] Voice 4: Let me know what you're thinking about.

[0:02:52] Voice 4: I have some somber news.

[0:02:55] Voice 4: Some of you may know or may not know that Louise DiCario was passed away last April, or April 9th.

[0:03:02] Voice 4: Louise was a Galliano trustee from 2002 to 2005, and then again in 2008 and 2014, when she retired.

[0:03:13] Voice 4: One of her greatest achievements during her time in office,

[0:03:17] Voice 6: along with fellow trustee Sandy Cottle,

[0:03:19] Voice 6: was overseeing a two-year-long community review of the Galliano's Official Community Plan.

[0:03:25] Voice 6: land. The result is an OCP that is substantially updated and it

[0:03:32] Voice 6: guides the land use

[0:03:32] Voice 4: decision. We need to provide a calm, passionate and

[0:03:38] Voice 4: thoughtful leadership in all years of office and our commitment to the

[0:03:42] Voice 4: Islands Trust, its object and its purpose never waver. We've learned

[0:03:47] Voice 4: much from her, in particular, what it means to be part of the

[0:03:50] Voice 4: precious island community. She and all our contributions to Galeano

[0:03:55] Voice 4: will not be forgotten. Thank you.

[0:04:02] Voice 4: Thanks, Lisa. And yeah, I just want

[0:04:07] Voice 3: to acknowledge Louise's input. No secret, me and Louise probably didn't see eye to eye politically, but that doesn't take away from the fact that she donated a lot of her time to this community.

[0:04:20] Voice 3: um yeah it's one of those things you know you go to you see people in the political life and uh

[0:04:27] Voice 3: you know it's open season when they're when they're in office and and sometimes we all forget

[0:04:33] Voice 3: um you know not just what belize has contributed but you can go back

[0:04:37] Voice 3: sandy's here and you can go back to a lot of people who put a lot of their eyes into this

[0:04:42] Voice 3: into this community um whether

[0:04:44] Voice 4: you agree with them politically or not you know i think there's a um

[0:04:50] Voice 4: there's always an opportunity for a good forum and um you know you'd like to see people respect

[0:04:58] Voice 4: that so uh yeah i don't really have anything for their dad today i mean it's as far as the

[0:05:06] Voice 4: trust is concerned that's that's fairly heavy

[0:05:07] Voice 13: thank you

[0:05:13] Voice 4: for that and then next is the chair

[0:05:16] Voice 5: report just before i get into that though i've got the uh the rising report from our

[0:05:20] Voice 5: those the meeting of March 14th uh which was to direct staff

[0:05:27] Voice 5: notification bylaw number 228 uh contravention and penalty for free ranging farm

[0:05:38] Voice 5: and all staffs in the draft bylaw brief back to the local trust committee so

[0:05:44] Voice 5: So thanks, Brad, for finding that for us so quickly.

[0:05:50] Voice 5: In terms of my chair report, the most exciting news is just today we've received confirmation from the province.

[0:06:05] Voice 5: Islands Trust is going to receive $150,000 to work on First Nations engagement and protocol agreements.

[0:06:13] Voice 5: So that's, that's a good, it's over five years so that should help us support our reconciliation and the protocol agreement course that just passed that just Council in March.

[0:06:30] Voice 5: March to the Sonos nation and so hopefully this paves the way for more of those type of profiles

[0:06:38] Voice 5: positive step appreciate to the province to helping us fund that specific set of goals

[0:06:49] Voice 5: other than that I don't have a an awful lot to report since last March it's

[0:06:54] Voice 5: uh not an awful lot happening on my in my uh official chair role to report here today

[0:07:05] Voice 5: but um appreciate being here lovely day to be here i don't think that we have director brent

[0:07:13] Voice 5: in today for an electoral area report um so i'm going to go to town hall questions and what i

[0:07:22] Voice 5: like to do today because i anticipate that some people are going to want to speak on the neighbourly

[0:07:26] Voice 5: uh temporary use permit thing and uh so what i want to do is divide the town hall session into

[0:07:35] Voice 5: a general section and then when we're finished with that we'll go on to that uh comments on the

[0:07:42] Voice 5: tup and at that point uh trustee neighbourly's indicating he'll leave a room with that so we'll

[0:07:47] Voice 5: divide it up uh that way for sake of that um so i'm going to start uh at this end of the room and

[0:07:56] Voice 5: see and show hands for general comments and if you have something on the tup we'll do that second

[0:08:00] Voice 5: afterwards over here

[0:08:02] Voice 15: yeah it's happening fast uh my name is

[0:08:06] Voice 15: john helson uh 18-year full-time

[0:08:10] Voice 15: resident of wise island this is back to the meeting last month uh i just wanted to say i

[0:08:18] Voice 15: was quite disappointed in the defeat in motion for bylaw bans for the certain structures on wise

[0:08:24] Voice 15: island our community association has been trying asking for this for the last year uh structures

[0:08:31] Voice 15: such as depths and stairs are a requirement on a boat access on the island i'm likening those

[0:08:39] Voice 15: structures to a driveway and i don't think anybody's driveway is set back 26 26 feet back

[0:08:47] Voice 15: from the road for us the ocean is our road um i would like to ask the ltc to reconsider that

[0:08:55] Voice 15: decision the other note i have here it said i also wanted to uh comment on one trustee's point

[0:09:06] Voice 15: that stated that galliana was a completely different island than maine when it came to

[0:09:10] Voice 15: alternative dwellings. I would also like to point out that WISE is also very different

[0:09:16] Voice 15: from Galeano. And at this time, the Galeano bylaws do not work for WISE Island. I believe

[0:09:23] Voice 15: the Island's Trust Commission statement says bylaws are, quote, living documents, and the

[0:09:28] Voice 15: time has come to review the bylaws for WISE Island. Thank you.

[0:09:34] Voice 5: that and it went over in this section general uh yes all

[0:09:42] Voice 4: right i have um just one statement and

[0:09:44] Voice 4: then two questions um i support what um the gentleman just said about the waters island

[0:09:50] Voice 4: decision um and i would support the ltc which is considering um the decision from last month

[0:09:58] Voice 4: So my questions, though, pertain to correspondence. In the minutes from the last meeting, there was reference to former trustee Rockefeller's correspondence that was received by the LTC, and then it also stated that it was just a general template statement that it could be found on the website.

[0:10:17] Voice 4: I was not able to find just correspondence and I'm interested in reading it.

[0:10:26] Voice 4: So where would it be if it's not already posted?

[0:10:29] Voice 4: And then the second sort of sub-question is for correspondence that pertains to a general nature trust-wide and not specifically related to an application,

[0:10:40] Voice 4: where is that ever on the website? So the two questions there about correspondence. Thank you.

[0:10:46] Voice 4: i think i heard the second one i didn't hear the first one um

[0:10:51] Voice 8: i'm wondering where trustee

[0:10:53] Voice 8: former trustee rockefeller's correspondence um might be the one the set of correspondence that

[0:11:00] Voice 8: was referred to at the last meeting of the ltc

[0:11:03] Voice 4: i

[0:11:05] Voice 8: believe one of them had to do with dl 86 85 and

[0:11:08] Voice 8: it's not on that application folder

[0:11:11] Voice 4: so uh that's probably i can take a note of that if it's with

[0:11:18] Voice 4: respect to the application that's in advance is that what you mean perhaps yeah no application

[0:11:27] Voice 4: if it's in advance it's probably just administrative oversight in terms of getting to

[0:11:50] Voice 4: And your second question was with respect to general correspondence, that would show

[0:11:54] Voice 4: up in the agendas with correspondence submitted to local trust committees of a general nature

[0:12:02] Voice 4: would be received by them and it would show up in the public agenda.

[0:12:05] Voice 4: general. So that's how it is. There's no place for the general correspondence.

[0:12:12] Voice 13: Thanks.

[0:12:14] Voice 5: Okay, it's still been this way back here.

[0:12:16] Voice 5: I

[0:12:17] Voice 4: would like to support the request for the one.

[0:12:26] Voice 5: Well, in this way, in the back there.

[0:12:30] Voice 5: Thank you.

[0:12:31] Voice 7: My name is

[0:12:32] Voice 7: and

[0:12:34] Voice 4: it's about the

[0:12:36] Voice 7: letter that we

[0:12:37] Voice 7: send to the

[0:12:38] Voice 7: to the

[0:12:40] Voice 7: and

[0:12:41] Voice 7: about the groundwater

[0:12:44] Voice 7: implementation project

[0:12:46] Voice 7: and I love

[0:12:47] Voice 7: and in that letter

[0:12:51] Voice 7: we request that

[0:12:53] Voice 7: the community

[0:12:55] Voice 7: be remarked

[0:13:00] Voice 7: as the

[0:13:01] Voice 7: the answer

[0:13:03] Voice 7: I said we can't work because we already have the Covenant in British protection, but the reality was that with the Covenant, it's very easy to change, and when the moment comes, the local trust committee should, not

[0:13:21] Voice 6: the local trust committee,

[0:13:23] Voice 7: the Covenant board should get more land, and they may not demand to pay more land, but now that there is the possibility that they will be,

[0:13:38] Voice 7: housing project, plus all the other people who live there and who already have problems with the water in the summer.

[0:13:47] Voice 7: That is very important that the community force will be having the

[0:13:54] Voice 4: development of energy in the yard.

[0:13:58] Voice 12: Especially now that

[0:14:00] Voice 4: there will be more people in the future.

[0:14:04] Voice 7: And I would like to

[0:14:05] Voice 7: know if anybody has an answer to that question. We did not receive any response.

[0:14:21] Voice 4: Yeah,

[0:14:23] Voice 5: I'm not aware of any specific staff advice back on that for us on it.

[0:14:31] Voice 4: Nope.

[0:14:39] Voice 7: yes so i i

[0:14:40] Voice 5: did receive the letter thank you as well

[0:14:44] Voice 5: don't have it i think it's specific uh information to give you an reply

[0:14:55] Voice 4: just a question about standing resolutions and i know this um standing resolutions

[0:15:04] Voice 4: that was part of the agenda for today's meeting, and I actually had not seen that log before.

[0:15:13] Voice 7: And so I was really interested to see that there was a standing resolution that was passed on April 7, 2014,

[0:15:22] Voice 4: the title being Community Wells as a Community Benefit.

[0:15:26] Voice 4: And that standing resolution states that the Galleon Island Elk Seed

[0:15:32] Voice 4: So it considers the community benefit for all the rezoning applications,

[0:15:36] Voice 7: where there is an increase in density, the establishment of an instrumented observation well.

[0:15:43] Voice 4: And I know, to my knowledge, there are only two observation wells on Galliana, not one near the rezoning that was assumed by the Gators Housing Development.

[0:15:55] Voice 4: And I don't recall this standing resolution ever being referenced or discussed in connection

[0:16:02] Voice 4: with that particular rezoning application.

[0:16:06] Voice 4: And it seems that there was a potential community deficit that could have been gained in addition

[0:16:12] Voice 4: to the housing with that rezoning.

[0:16:15] Voice 4: and perhaps

[0:16:17] Voice 7: since Kleiner spent this year,

[0:16:20] Voice 7: he could perhaps explain how standing resolutions like that

[0:16:26] Voice 4: do get referenced in staff reports and in the LTC meetings

[0:16:31] Voice 4: when people may not actually be aware of such a resolution.

[0:16:36] Voice 4: What I would say with respect to that application

[0:16:39] Voice 4: is that there was an enormous amount of effort

[0:16:41] Voice 4: effort to instead review, further review, provide information to the community, answer

[0:16:52] Voice 4: questions with respect to water supply at that site. They do have requirements in Covenant

[0:16:58] Voice 4: to monitor their use. There isn't really an obvious, another resource well on the property

[0:17:06] Voice 4: for you to use. Yeah, it was I think it would require the

[0:17:17] Voice 4: establishment. And given that there were multiple submissions

[0:17:24] Voice 4: of already

[0:17:25] Voice 4: sharing this with

[0:17:33] Voice 4: get a couple of benefits for this so

[0:17:35] Voice 6: it's suggesting a second role in this property

[0:17:39] Voice 4: i don't know how the standing resolution sections this is treated uh you would be better so the

[0:17:45] Voice 4: wording is we'll consider i think that from all the effort that the local trust committee went

[0:17:50] Voice 4: through to consider if that was an appropriate use for the property and if there is water available

[0:17:56] Voice 4: available there. So it

[0:18:00] Voice 13: doesn't say it doesn't say they must

[0:18:02] Voice 4: establish that the resolution doesn't say they must

[0:18:05] Voice 4: establish an observation.

[0:18:10] Voice 4: I don't know.

[0:18:12] Voice 4: The standing resolution was at the forefront of discussion,

[0:18:16] Voice 4: but certainly, there was a lot of discussion around what

[0:18:19] Voice 4: an appropriate uh long-term and uh with respect to that position itself monitoring approach once

[0:18:30] Voice 4: professionals certainly provided insight into those questions um

[0:18:40] Voice 5: anything yes we're sticking

[0:18:43] Voice 5: with the general and then we'll get into the specific on the tp later but yes go ahead sir

[0:18:47] Voice 5: given right back to a link letter wise

[0:18:50] Voice 15: island it's been dragging on painfully slow and there has been

[0:18:56] Voice 15: marked inactivity by the local trust committee when you have a potential solution at hand

[0:19:03] Voice 15: please

[0:19:04] Voice 4: refer the uh gambier island bylaws for passage island to the apc to consider whether

[0:19:15] Voice 4: whether or not they are applicable and can be applied to Wise Island within Galliano's OCP.

[0:19:25] Voice 4: Russell, make a referral, get the ABC working on it.

[0:19:31] Voice 4: Yeah,

[0:19:33] Voice 3: I believe what we've asked staff to do is to get a copy of the Gambier OCP

[0:19:38] Voice 3: and then bring it back to us, and I

[0:19:42] Voice 4: think that would be the next step.

[0:19:44] Voice 12: you

[0:19:45] Voice 4: haven't got a copy of it yet well i mean i thought why is island people providing you with

[0:19:51] Voice 15: a copy okay

[0:19:58] Voice 4: that's the other hand over here yes my name is jim humphrey i have a house

[0:20:08] Voice 4: i can make a couple of comments about the application for crystal mouse the applicant

[0:20:25] Voice 4: to re-zoning Crystal Mountains in compliance with our official community land use bylaws

[0:20:33] Voice 4: continuously since they acquired the land in 1999 and for years is a forest one property

[0:20:46] Voice 4: the audience trust staff in the previous local trust committee have done all they can to accommodate

[0:20:53] Voice 4: the app with unprecedented zoning and the ocp policy changes simply to respond to the app for

[0:21:04] Voice 4: For example, the rezoning has begun to create a large, multi-unit, extensive visitor to

[0:21:17] Voice 4: disconnected development.

[0:21:22] Voice 4: But this rezoning has not been placed in an economic activity zone.

[0:21:28] Voice 4: It's not been called an economic activity zone like other visitor organizations.

[0:21:32] Voice 4: By classifying this development instead as a community facility, previous LPCs have

[0:21:50] Voice 4: is to have direct frontage and suitable access on a highway classified as a minor road, that

[0:22:03] Voice 4: is the land transportation policy. The reasonings sought by the applicant provides access to the

[0:22:11] Voice 4: residential roads. This is in violation of the OCP policy designed to keep that next

[0:22:20] Voice 4: activities on residential neighborhoods. It goes back to how did they get to call themselves

[0:22:30] Voice 4: a community facility? They are an economic... This amount of emergency access is part of

[0:22:47] Voice 4: the condition of the zoning that's required by our OCP transportation policy. This is

[0:22:54] Voice 4: problematic, however, because they do not have direct front access on a high-pass road.

[0:23:03] Voice 4: its only access to courtyard is to an easement running 250 meters across an adjoining property

[0:23:13] Voice 4: while the creation of an emergency access through the cm properties is welcome the fact that it

[0:23:20] Voice 4: doesn't connect to courtyard significantly undermines this aspect as a community amendment

[0:23:31] Voice 4: also the creation of a second development area the upper ridge is duplicated infrastructure

[0:23:38] Voice 4: structure, wells, septic fields, kitchens, and bathhouses,

[0:23:45] Voice 4: violates many OCP policies and precedents,

[0:23:48] Voice 4: which could discourage such fragmentation.

[0:23:55] Voice 4: This upper ridge development, where

[0:23:57] Voice 4: main retreat participants will stay for up to six months

[0:24:02] Voice 4: at a time, has no frontage on the main or minor rural road.

[0:24:08] Voice 4: From this upper ridge, the only access

[0:24:16] Voice 4: There is no justification for allowing this to split on land and an economic activity

[0:24:33] Voice 4: other than the fact that that is what the applicant wants.

[0:24:38] Voice 4: Water supply and water consumption are also ongoing concerns.

[0:24:45] Voice 4: The applicant has seriously wondered how much water will be used in its operation.

[0:24:51] Voice 4: It's here on the upper ridge, but it's at all purposes of calculating what is the availability of water from its well.

[0:25:09] Voice 4: 2015 hydrogeological test, now far short of current requirements on testing for commercial well.

[0:25:20] Voice 4: The author of that report based his test on how much water is upholding, not on what is required in operation.

[0:25:32] the operation of the water cycle

[0:25:38] Voice 4: with climate change charging ahead and increasing the lack

[0:25:43] Voice 4: of fresh water.

[0:25:45] Voice 4: And there are areas throughout the world that's habitable.

[0:25:48] Voice 4: Years ago, in the event of literature, it's frightening to hear that the data said Phoenix,

[0:26:04] Voice 4: Arizona may be uninhabitable within 20 years.

[0:26:08] Voice 4: Water supply may be in the main place in times of climate change.

[0:26:13] Voice 4: At the very least, I would ask this LTC to require approval of the provincial water license

[0:26:23] Voice 4: based on her proceedings with the CNSLT.

[0:26:32] I don't suggest that the LTC should not approve the upper ridge.

[0:26:39] I mean, I would suggest that it should familiarize its own visitor accommodation facility

[0:26:47] Voice 4: as an economic act that the appropriate staffs do so to ensure that the applicant complies with the OCP.

[0:26:58] Voice 4: Thank you for that.

[0:27:03] Voice 4: or is there anything uh

[0:27:06] Voice 5: anyone else want to speak uh besides the tv

[0:27:10] Voice 5: seeing any more hands we're going to give trustee majorly a moment and then we'll take

[0:27:21] Voice 5: comments on that chair

[0:27:42] Voice 11: peterson yes could you please ask people to be cautious about the

[0:27:47] Voice 11: background noise i'm finding it very difficult to hear okay there's a

[0:27:53] Voice 11: lot of crashing happening

[0:27:54] Voice 11: happening. Thank you.

[0:27:58] Voice 5: Yeah, so so stop indicating that it's

[0:28:02] Voice 5: probably a little bit of shuffling around and stuff. But

[0:28:05] Voice 5: the quieter we can keep it that these here on the recording for

[0:28:10] Voice 5: people who are not able to be here. Thank you for that stuff.

[0:28:14] Voice 5: I'll start over here on the on the tfp.

[0:28:18] Voice 5: Uh, here.

[0:28:49] Voice 4: the area is not a community-wide discussion. When there are no

[0:29:00] Voice 4: alternatives or use of not getting evaluated, the TUP is

[0:29:04] Voice 4: there for evidence. However, the rejoining process is a

[0:29:07] Voice 4: recruitment method by ensuring the community as a whole

[0:29:09] Voice 4: participates in the rejoining of the area. As is currently

[0:29:13] Voice 4: existing at LUB, there is absolutely no reason to approve

[0:29:16] Voice 4: continue to work other than to circumvent the trust process and the policy community

[0:29:25] Voice 4: okay

[0:29:27] Voice 5: thank you for that and uh okay i'll go right to the back here and then i'll start moving this

[0:29:32] Voice 5: way so right in the back my

[0:29:34] Voice 4: name is cory thompson i'm a contractor and console operator

[0:29:41] Voice 4: I contract a lot of farms, I feel like this is essential to this island's growth.

[0:29:48] Voice 4: It doesn't affect any of these water issues, we're bringing the earth back to stockpile so that we can further serve the community.

[0:30:00] Voice 4: and pass on the expense of traveling the ferry to them as a reward to save them money with the stockpile

[0:30:20] Voice 4: so that jobs can be completed faster, more efficiently.

[0:30:24] Voice 4: we um people come on the island as seasonal uh people uh they want stuff done right away

[0:30:32] Voice 4: that spends a whole day for us to travel back and forth back to veranda to turn material over

[0:30:39] Voice 4: the fairies are getting more congested it's not even the summer time yet

[0:30:44] Voice 4: as the summer months get uh busier and busier we will miss the fairies as contractors which

[0:30:51] Voice 4: which ultimately passes that expense on to the customer

[0:30:55] Voice 4: and just hurts the economy tenfold.

[0:31:00] Voice 4: So it's, as far as traffic is concerned,

[0:31:04] Voice 4: we're on the roads twice a day.

[0:31:08] Voice 4: We wait for the traffic to get off the ferry,

[0:31:11] Voice 4: we pull in behind them, we limit our exposure on the road

[0:31:17] Voice 4: so that we don't affect the population as a whole. By having a stockpile here in the summertime,

[0:31:24] Voice 4: we'll be able to avoid those peak travel times and very congested times to help people

[0:31:33] Voice 4: just have a better stay on the island and a more positive experience.

[0:31:38] Voice 4: I feel that it's a great investment in the community. Sam is the hardest working person

[0:31:44] Voice 4: i know and uh i just feel that it's a benefit to the community

[0:31:50] Voice 4: it's

[0:31:50] Voice 5: moving this way i saw someone in the middle here no

[0:32:01] Voice 5: okay i'm in the in the middle there and then i'll go to the back and then the front

[0:32:05] Voice 5: i

[0:32:06] Voice 7: i was hesitating because i was going to suggest for people who are listening on the live stream

[0:32:11] Voice 7: me they can hardly ever hear what said jerry tom hall is there an option for a person to get closer

[0:32:19] Voice 7: to the microphone to deliver their comments uh

[0:32:23] Voice 5: sure we could do that and i'll also note that

[0:32:25] Voice 5: at our last meeting we discussed um uh trying to get another microphone and then and a speaker

[0:32:32] Voice 5: help ameliorate that did you have anything you wanted to say on the tpc here um

[0:32:37] Voice 7: yes actually

[0:32:42] Voice 7: And I just want to make one comment that concerns me that the applicant is saying that the unloading

[0:32:54] Voice 7: of material on barges would and coming back delivered through Montague actually going

[0:33:02] Voice 7: going through a valley and a sea crate,

[0:33:06] Voice 7: which goes from the sea level to about 400 feet,

[0:33:09] Voice 7: where I live, means that these big trucks

[0:33:13] Voice 7: and the big pieces of equipment

[0:33:15] Voice 7: are grinding their way up the hill often.

[0:33:18] Voice 7: And we had the experience, which we didn't mind at all,

[0:33:21] Voice 7: when it was the blowout of the road at Murchison Creek

[0:33:26] Voice 7: and a lot of material was delivered at Montague

[0:33:29] Voice 7: and a lot of trucks went up that road.

[0:33:32] Voice 7: It was great because it was serving the community.

[0:33:35] Voice 7: But you have to remember that Montague Road,

[0:33:39] Voice 7: which terminates at Montague Park,

[0:33:43] Voice 7: is a tourism corridor,

[0:33:45] Voice 7: which is really busy with cyclists, campers, tourists.

[0:33:51] Voice 7: It's one of the busiest roads on the island.

[0:33:53] Voice 7: And on top of that, we often hear ambulances

[0:33:57] Voice 7: going down the park in the summertime.

[0:33:58] Voice 7: So to actually use a tourism corridor as a corridor to move this kind of material will be problematic.

[0:34:08] Voice 7: I just want that to be considered.

[0:34:12] Voice 7: And I

[0:34:15] Voice 7: just want to share my thoughts.

[0:34:23] Voice 7: proposed to be used in a watershed and on

[0:34:27] Voice 4: higher ground in the surrounding neighbourhood.

[0:34:30] Voice 4: Industrial activity in a watershed can potentially contaminate the groundwater in the surrounding

[0:34:37] Voice 4: road. I think the

[0:34:44] Voice 7: previous speaker has covered everything I wanted to say about the Montague

[0:34:48] Voice 7: be run. The only other point

[0:34:51] Voice 4: I would make is that there's extreme congestion from the water

[0:34:56] Voice 4: under your harbour up the hill to the intersection of the park road and I just can't imagine

[0:35:09] Voice 4: And that's

[0:35:11] Voice 7: about it,

[0:35:12] Voice 4: and I recognize

[0:35:14] Voice 7: the points that the speaker made, very good points.

[0:35:19] Voice 7: And I think the theme is places for aggregates and construction materials to be stored.

[0:35:27] Voice 4: But I think this is the wrong topic. Thank you.

[0:35:32] Voice 4: and in front over here and then i'll start covering this back but

[0:35:36] Voice 4: go ahead part of this is uh 375 peter berlin um i just wanted to thank the uh trustee gopro and

[0:35:47] Voice 4: and and maybe as well for acknowledging to carry out as uh as a leader in this community and the

[0:35:54] Voice 4: the loss that her passing represents. Louise

[0:35:59] Voice 15: was the trustee at the time of Sandy Pottle

[0:36:03] Voice 15: when the issue of contractor yards came up. A number of people had an issue with not being

[0:36:10] Voice 15: able to store and recommending their residential properties. And that's where the idea of a

[0:36:19] Voice 15: cup for contracting yards came from

[0:36:22] Voice 2: and that's that's how it's written in the uh the ocp of the

[0:36:27] Voice 2: lub uh disappointing us to see the uh the staff report referring to to this uh and sort of

[0:36:37] Voice 2: acknowledge

[0:36:38] Voice 15: by acknowledging that yeah this proposal does not involve a residential

[0:36:43] Voice 15: show. So even all the other

[0:36:47] Voice 4: TUPs, the contractor yards are in residential zones or near residential

[0:36:52] Voice 4: zones. This is not an appropriate place for to apply the contractor yard TUP. It's not what it

[0:37:02] Voice 4: was intended to do and it's disappointing that that's in in the report. That's the reason to

[0:37:23] Voice 9: My name is Jenna Falk, I live at 620 Montague Road, and I'd like to speak about the TUP

[0:37:29] Voice 9: application.

[0:37:31] Voice 9: I live right beside DL 12, 660 feet of shared boundary.

[0:37:38] Voice 9: I work from home, I see and hear what is going on.

[0:37:42] Voice 9: daily activities applied for in this tup have already been ongoing for the past month this tup

[0:37:49] Voice 9: is not the answer here this gives permission for just one of many non-permitted uses on this forest

[0:37:56] Voice 9: land land that is meant for sustainable forestry and is not zoned for industrial and commercial

[0:38:02] Voice 9: activity i didn't go to planning school but my common sense tells me that industrial activities

[0:38:09] Voice 9: activities don't belong at the top of a hillside let alone in an elevated groundwater catchment

[0:38:14] Voice 9: area on an island critically Reliant on groundwater runoff contaminants dust and debris all flow

[0:38:22] Voice 9: downhill to the land and water the topography and lay of the land on DL 12 creates uniquely

[0:38:31] Voice 9: significant risks and impacts of industrial activities to the neighborhood and the watershed

[0:38:36] Voice 9: shed that hundreds of residents and visitors rely on daily many letters have come in on these

[0:38:44] Voice 9: concerns and more some of these concerns were identified in the staff report as being addressed

[0:38:50] Voice 9: but are not something to brush aside surrounding land uses and neighbors rights to enjoy their

[0:38:57] Voice 9: property has been negatively impacted for years due to by-law violations on dl12

[0:39:03] Voice 9: the tup activities add further insult to injury enough is enough as someone who has spent close

[0:39:12] Voice 9: to 10 years living beside almost daily non-permitted industrial noise pollution from dl12

[0:39:19] Voice 9: and worrying about the safety of our drinking water i'm at a loss for words to read in the

[0:39:25] Voice 9: staff report that concerns are considered fairly simple to mitigate and any other non-permitted

[0:39:32] Voice 9: uses can apply for a permit please do not reward long-standing bylaw violations with tups in doing

[0:39:41] Voice 9: so you effectively discriminate against the rights of those who use their land as it is owned thank

[0:39:47] Voice 9: you

[0:39:47] Voice 5: and then i saw some order here uh right next to the ladies

[0:39:54] Voice 5: ladies.

[0:39:58] Voice 4: And Martin's by a lot of things. I support fully what

[0:40:08] Voice 4: they have said. And I like to add that I'm unable to send a

[0:40:13] Voice 4: friend as well. Difficult conversation. But I'm also

[0:40:19] Voice 4: concerned off the hillside. So we are concerned about what

[0:40:24] Voice 4: effect they will have on our own water but very much the track concerns the cash dimension and

[0:40:31] Voice 4: just the fact that an industrial operation going in

[0:40:36] Voice 7: when

[0:40:37] Voice 4: it's surrounded by residential homes

[0:40:40] Voice 4: and i think it's important to recognize that corey who just spoke is um works with sean

[0:40:55] um

[0:40:55] Voice 4: sorry words of sound so they're very biased um

[0:41:00] Voice 5: no i don't make together thank you and

[0:41:04] Voice 7: but i think

[0:41:04] Voice 7: it's important to make that and um oh and i'm very

[0:41:08] Voice 4: distracted and closely signed but i have revoked it

[0:41:16] Voice 4: to sam's twice to sam and to the army trust and i learned this weekend that sam has not

[0:41:22] Voice 4: about promising that we work and for community nutrition as well so i think it's a terrible idea

[0:41:30] Voice 4: it's bad for the land it's bad for the community and it's bad for the tourists and the motorists

[0:41:37] Voice 4: and bicycles along the road and we have a certain key driveway and i know how fast vehicles and

[0:41:45] Voice 4: bicycles come along that road how carefully we have to move our driveway and i can't imagine what um

[0:41:53] Voice 4: large track travel that's going to be a problem there as well so i do not support the team thank

[0:42:00] Voice 4: you okay thank you for that and in the back room

[0:42:05] Voice 4: my name is elizabeth blatter i stand 29 1-2 um i was really alarmed

[0:42:13] Voice 6: about the fact that the dp4

[0:42:15] Voice 6: elevated groundwater catchment area was sort of uh indicated that it was could be mitigated that

[0:42:22] Voice 6: that problem wasn't a problem and so i'm going to speak again to what these other people have spoken

[0:42:27] Voice 6: to that water on this island is of paramount importance you just have to ask any rezoning

[0:42:34] Voice 6: application they all want to know what the wire is going to do the dp4 area is in several places

[0:42:41] Voice 6: on this property and it cannot be the compaction has already taken place the yard has been prepared

[0:42:48] Voice 6: The driveway has been given up and a compaction has been taking place.

[0:42:54] Voice 6: You cannot percolate water efficiently when there is so much compaction.

[0:42:59] Voice 6: There's a lot of runoff that happens when the heavy rains come, which they do occasionally.

[0:43:06] Voice 6: And on the neighboring property, the water is washed down the hill and out onto Montague Road,

[0:43:14] Voice 6: and the ditches are full as in no other time during the year so i feel that ignoring this dp4

[0:43:22] Voice 6: as uh just something that can be brushed off is unconscionable i can't imagine that

[0:43:29] Voice 6: this i

[0:43:29] Voice 6: thought this whole thing about dealing with activity on stockade hill for probably 15 years

[0:43:38] Voice 6: now. I rarely get people to listen to me. But the other thing I'd like to say is that there is

[0:43:45] Voice 6: pollution from hydropoles left there for years, and there will be further pollution from any

[0:43:52] Voice 6: hydrocarbons dropped from machinery as they work on the site or as they go up and down the hill.

[0:43:59] Voice 4: Thank you.

[0:44:08] Voice 6: I just wanted to say I'm immensely sad by the passing of Louise DiCario.

[0:44:15] Voice 6: I cannot help but reflect with admiration on the way in which, under tremendous pressure,

[0:44:26] Voice 6: pressure Louise was able to apply the OCP and to consider the impact of the LTC's decisions

[0:44:33] Voice 6: on the generations to come I know that this LTC has received a petition and much correspondence

[0:44:39] Voice 6: about the Mayberry request for a tup at 1008 Montague Road although I note that these documents

[0:44:46] Voice 6: were not posted on the trust website as a former trustee I would always give more consideration to

[0:44:52] Voice 6: to letters, especially thoughtful and thorough letters than to pet then to petitions that

[0:44:58] Voice 6: usually do not include all the information required by decision makers to make a decision.

[0:45:04] Voice 6: I would urge the LTC not to grant to up for the neighborly f1 lot. In this instance, I

[0:45:10] Voice 6: believe that the applicant should go through a rezoning process that will weigh all of the

[0:45:14] Voice 6: environmental impacts of the proposed use, especially in a development permit area. And I

[0:45:21] Voice 6: believe that we all need to consider and focus on our relationship with the land more than our use

[0:45:26] Voice 6: of the land and i would just also add that having been behind many school groups of kids trying to

[0:45:34] Voice 6: cycle up that hill is quite daunting i mean they're wiggling all over the road i mean it's it's

[0:45:41] Voice 6: it's not a great place to have industrial traffic

[0:45:44] Voice 6: it more

[0:45:47] Voice 5: comments go this way and then i'll come back uh yes sir stephen

[0:45:53] Voice 15: ryback i would

[0:45:55] Voice 15: urge the trustees not to defer any

[0:45:59] Voice 4: approvals of the neighborly top until a more fulsome

[0:46:02] Voice 4: informed informed

[0:46:04] Voice 3: community dialogue takes

[0:46:06] Voice 15: place the initial neighborhood notification was

[0:46:09] Voice 15: willfully inadequate in terms of maps

[0:46:12] Voice 4: and information. It appears to have been designed

[0:46:15] Voice 4: to discourage informed dialogue.

[0:46:19] Voice 15: Secondly, the staff report made public only a week ago

[0:46:23] Voice 15: gave the community only two days to respond in writing. The staff report basically created a

[0:46:30] Voice 15: brand new TUP application with its focus on barging materials through

[0:46:36] Voice 4: a very congested

[0:46:38] Voice 4: montague harbor that

[0:46:41] Voice 15: community needs to be given and adequate opportunities for informed and and

[0:46:50] Voice 15: to become informed and to become involved before you make a decision

[0:46:55] Voice 3: i believe a delay is also

[0:46:58] Voice 3: needed to correct the surprisingly slipshod

[0:47:01] Voice 4: and confusing staff report the montague harbor

[0:47:07] Voice 4: Harbor community has not been adequately

[0:47:11] Voice 3: advised

[0:47:12] Voice 3: of the potential impacts.

[0:47:15] Voice 3: And to think that the Ministry of Highways

[0:47:18] Voice 3: is going to take a look at highway impact

[0:47:22] Voice 3: two kilometers from the top location is a sad, sad notion.

[0:47:30] Voice 3: Highways is only gonna be interested

[0:47:32] Voice 3: in the immediate access to the property,

[0:47:35] Voice 3: not highway use impacts thank you

[0:47:39] Voice 3: okay

[0:47:40] Voice 5: thank you so some more hands this way uh sandy yeah

[0:47:45] Voice 14: i wrote

[0:47:46] Voice 14: to you guys but uh it was a bit late because i did get the information a bit uh a bit later as

[0:47:51] Voice 14: we all did and uh just like stephen said there's a lot of new information on there

[0:47:57] Voice 14: but i'm writing in opposition to the approval of this tup this community has a well-articulated

[0:48:05] Voice 14: community plan with clear objectives and goals which you have a duty to reference

[0:48:10] Voice 14: in your decision making while staff is recommending approval of this application

[0:48:15] Voice 14: you as trustees are held to a higher level of accountability in representing the public

[0:48:20] Voice 14: interests i sent you last week a summary document based upon court decision regard

[0:48:25] Voice 14: decisions regarding valid Galliano bylaws which have been challenged in various courts for over

[0:48:31] Voice 14: two decades the quote which I find most relevant to your consideration is included below and I've

[0:48:37] Voice 14: attached the entire thing so it will become part of the public record as well and it said in

[0:48:43] Voice 14: consideration that the forest area use category designation comprises over one half of Galliano

[0:48:51] Voice 14: Island at that time. I think it's just a little bit less than that now. And that non-forestry

[0:48:56] Voice 14: uses may have substantive implications for these lands and the Galliano Island community in general.

[0:49:03] Voice 14: Applications for non-forestry uses should be reviewed on a comprehensive land use planning

[0:49:08] Voice 14: basis. Such approach should involve information specific to the forest area lands, allowing for

[0:49:16] Voice 14: an assessment of suitability and appropriateness of different uses than forestry this information

[0:49:22] Voice 14: should address all aspects of the physical environments its development capability and

[0:49:28] Voice 14: constraints and associated economic and social considerations from a sustainability perspective

[0:49:35] Voice 14: this comprehensive approach should also consider probable effects of change land use patterns for

[0:49:41] Voice 14: these lands upon the remainder of the island included would be community servicing implications

[0:49:47] Voice 14: transportation implications carrying capacity for various mixes and levels of use cumulative

[0:49:54] Voice 14: development impacts appropriate limits or thresholds from environmental and community

[0:49:59] Voice 14: perspectives i do not think that a temporary use of the use of the temporary use permit is an

[0:50:05] Voice 14: an appropriate tool for allowing developments on forest owned lands and that in order for the

[0:50:10] Voice 14: issuance of such a permit rezoning should be required before such a permit is considered

[0:50:17] Voice 14: to enable forest loan some lands to use a process intended for regulation of home occupations will

[0:50:24] Voice 14: undermine much of what we as a community have agreed to in a considered and thoughtful way

[0:50:29] Voice 14: to proceed in dealing with a history of having such a large part of our island placed onto the

[0:50:35] Voice 14: real estate market without a comprehensive plan for development as pointed out in the document

[0:50:40] Voice 14: reference previously once land is developed undoing development if it is harmful to the public

[0:50:47] Voice 14: or what some people perceive to be in the public interest is next to impossible i would like to add

[0:50:53] Voice 14: that i have no animosity towards the applicant which would probably could be considered irrelevant

[0:50:58] Voice 14: relevant, but I am hoping that our positive relationship continues in spite of my

[0:51:04] Voice 14: correspondence on this matter.

[0:51:06] Voice 14: Thank you very much.

[0:51:08] Voice 5: See another hand back here.

[0:51:13] Voice 6: It is Joan Robinson on Morgan Road and actually all my points have been covered by

[0:51:19] Voice 6: others. So I can just send my letter.

[0:51:22] Voice 6: Just in summary, I just wanted to say that it appears that the application for temporary

[0:51:28] Voice 6: use permits has been submitted in haste as there are several banners of concern that are unclear

[0:51:36] Voice 6: unknown and or disputed that that's what that is

[0:51:41] Voice 6: okay thank you

[0:51:42] Voice 5: for that and then i'm going to head back this way

[0:51:44] Voice 5: thank

[0:51:45] Voice 4: you

[0:51:53] Voice 4: i am opposed to the pups there are far too many problems

[0:52:02] Voice 4: to propose location for a gravel mark on the DPA area on the top of the hill. However,

[0:52:10] Voice 4: my main concern is the location of the intended driveway access and the roads going up and

[0:52:20] Voice 4: down the hillside. If our property extends across Monterey Road, we don't know where

[0:52:28] Voice 4: the driveway is

[0:52:29] Voice 8: going to happen. We want to use a small piece of land on the proposed

[0:52:35] Voice 8: driveway entrance. In fact, it appears that large trucks will be coming and going,

[0:52:43] Voice 4: crossing

[0:52:44] Voice 4: our property. It's unclear on the map whether it will affect our property or not. We're

[0:52:53] Voice 4: not happy with the revival for any accident that might occur at the entrance to the Appalachian

[0:53:00] Voice 4: strategy further we would like the property line to be surveyed to find out if this is a problem

[0:53:09] Voice 4: here or not before any qup would be okay

[0:53:16] Voice 5: thank you uh then we'll go to the back and then i'll

[0:53:20] Voice 5: come back to you sir i

[0:53:22] Voice 7: also want to say that um the community was very much in support of the

[0:53:28] Voice 7: previous TUP that proposed the same industrial operation that Mr. Maverly suggested. And that

[0:53:38] Voice 7: TUP was granted, and I think he recommends that we needed more, another area, somewhere where

[0:53:45] Voice 7: there was soil and aggregate swap pile. We don't know what the need for that. But

[0:53:51] Voice 4: Mr. Maverly's

[0:53:52] Voice 4: This proposal is a mile away from that, and I haven't seen any evidence that we need another one.

[0:54:00] Voice 4: I mean, the state there is, but I've never heard or seen anything that would do that.

[0:54:06] Voice 4: And I don't see it being just a mile away from that.

[0:54:12] Voice 4: I'm Brian Lyle. I'm from Morgan Road.

[0:54:18] I started with 400

[0:54:19] Voice 4: feet of parking lines.

[0:54:20] Voice 4: question. I am opposed to this being granted. We run a farm growing fresh vegetables for

[0:54:32] Voice 3: markets so we're especially concerned about runoff and pollution from the best productivity

[0:54:36] Voice 3: that can come from us. The stated TUP use is fairly limited but we don't see a lot of

[0:54:44] Voice 3: monitoring or enforcement of existing rules that we already have. I'd also like to question

[0:54:50] Voice 3: as others have said, the use of the TVP instrument.

[0:54:54] Voice 3: In this case, the activity is being framed

[0:54:58] Voice 3: with a short-term use of limited aspect.

[0:55:00] Voice 3: But the

[0:55:00] Voice 4: reality is, there's a part,

[0:55:02] Voice 4: an ongoing pattern of industrial use on this lot.

[0:55:08] And it's very much more in turn.

[0:55:10] We have some reasons that we will see the property

[0:55:14] return to the use of the zone floor at the end of the TVP.

[0:55:22] Voice 4: Yeah, I just wanted to say that I live on the Crest of Bonnevue, and it's quite a steep hill, and in fact, what I was told is that it's an illegal grade.

[0:55:32] Voice 4: Kids are going down there, not, like, people come from Madagascar, Victoria, a whole group of them, like 30, 40 kids.

[0:55:42] Voice 4: They're all going at the crest of that hill, they're yelling, yahoo, and they're racing down that hill.

[0:55:48] Voice 4: And we're trying to control this by going down, which the our medical center has to deal with, with broken arms and broken legs and people getting hurt.

[0:55:59] Voice 4: I can see that this can definitely be the truck going up slowly, grinding its way up the hill.

[0:56:06] Voice 4: These kids trying to, you know, they get shocked by seeing this machine going up there.

[0:56:12] Voice 4: I can see a real accident happening.

[0:56:15] Voice 4: I can't remember.

[0:56:16] Voice 4: And it's a very big park.

[0:56:24] Voice 4: Anyone else have a question?

[0:56:27] Brad Walker.

[0:56:29] I live

[0:56:30] Voice 3: at 620 Monarchy Road.

[0:56:32] Voice 3: I share a road a little bit more than 600 feet with Sam.

[0:56:38] Voice 3: I grew up on a big farm.

[0:56:40] Voice 3: My mom and dad always taught me one of the best things you can do is get along with your neighbors.

[0:56:46] Voice 3: Unfortunately, today I'm here defending the basic right to live on our land in peace and quiet.

[0:56:50] Voice 3: it um to me a community is a place where you can express your views with without being bullied

[0:56:57] Voice 3: that's pretty important what does it mean to be a good steward to the land i think it's someone

[0:57:05] Voice 3: who considers future generations and preserves land leaving it and more resilient than they found it

[0:57:13] Voice 3: i i think it's that this land is a terrible example of that um this tup is not appropriate

[0:57:20] Voice 3: for district lot 12. I think it's just a way around rezoning. District lot 12 meets the

[0:57:27] Voice 3: rezone and come into compliance with our OCP and LUD. You are making a big land use decision.

[0:57:38] Voice 3: As trustees, we do not give out permits for non-permitted uses. This TUP goes against

[0:57:45] Voice 3: the core values of our OCP. Maintaining and restoring Galliano's forest ecosystem is critical

[0:57:54] Voice 3: for ecosystem-based sustainable forestry management. That's the goal from our OCP.

[0:58:01] Voice 3: This is an F1 lot covered in violations for decades. It has been a metal storage yard,

[0:58:08] Voice 3: some kind of a farm, a junk car storage facility. I think the track record is terrible.

[0:58:15] Voice 3: terrible. Please don't rework this non-compliance with the TUP. F1 lands are not for any of

[0:58:24] Voice 3: these uses. Land in the forest area should not be used for non-forestry uses until it

[0:58:31] Voice 3: is rezoned to a zone which permits such uses. That is a direct quote from our ICP again.

[0:58:39] Voice 3: U.S. trustees have a responsibility to represent their neighbourhood. In my opinion, the only

[0:58:45] Voice 3: alternative the rezoning is for you to go down the local trust committee to deny temporary use

[0:58:50] Voice 3: permit application gltup 2023.2 and enforce compliance to this scoff law i don't really

[0:59:00] Voice 3: mean this in any kind of disrespect i've been sam's neighbor for a really really long time

[0:59:06] Voice 3: and you know when the cows get out i put them back and i want to continue to have a good

[0:59:13] Voice 3: relationship with sam so i sit here and pour my heart out to you all with respect that's

[0:59:22] Voice 3: really important that everybody know that thanks for your time

[0:59:28] Voice 4: over here in the front and then i'll get to the back

[0:59:39] Voice 7: the back of my property borders the area where the permit is asked for and in no way

[0:59:50] Voice 7: does it affect my property or the traffic on thursday as far as i'm concerned

[0:59:57] Voice 7: and i fully support a permit

[1:00:00] Voice 7: for three years it's better than resuming it to a permanent gravel pit and for three years if

[1:00:08] Voice 7: it's needed say for building the low-cost housing or whatever the gravel is needed for

[1:00:16] Voice 7: it's temporary and as far as i can see the traffic is is bad on montague yeah montague hill

[1:00:28] Voice 7: hill but it's always been that way and it's not people

[1:00:32] Voice 6: don't use it when the traffic is

[1:00:35] Voice 6: full of bicycles and kids and tourists and everything else at other times for big trucks

[1:00:43] Voice 6: um

[1:00:44] Voice 4: i i and the area where the um storage of gravel is located is um

[1:00:58] Voice 4: This way into the lot where I doubt very much

[1:01:06] Voice 6: whether it will affect the water table.

[1:01:10] Voice 7: Because it's been there for a long time anyway, and some of that gravel was used to use for

[1:01:21] Voice 7: are built and building the museum and i'm sure no and they they i think they put 100 loads in that

[1:01:30] Voice 7: museum and that and nobody even knew the trucks were going by

[1:01:33] Voice 12: and

[1:01:34] Voice 7: it's done at a time when there's

[1:01:37] Voice 7: no traffic and in the winter you know i can go i've been here 42 years and i can go around the

[1:01:45] Voice 7: roads in the wintertime and I don't see a single car, don't pass a single car. But I think there's

[1:01:51] Voice 7: a, there's a, there's a

[1:01:54] Voice 6: thing on the island about busy traffic, but it's only

[1:01:59] Voice 7: during the summertime

[1:02:00] Voice 7: as far as I'm concerned. I'm experiencing it, my scope report is. So I don't see any problem with

[1:02:09] Voice 7: the three

[1:02:10] Voice 4: -year temporary allowance because I

[1:02:16] Voice 7: think to me the island is starting to look pretty good

[1:02:20] Voice 4: with the

[1:02:22] Voice 7: change of new

[1:02:23] Voice 4: people and I don't

[1:02:28] Voice 7: think there's I think people should and for years people

[1:02:34] Voice 7: people have done whatever

[1:02:34] Voice 12: they want on the property pretty well with people who respect the environmental laws

[1:02:59] Voice 6: of the land

[1:03:00] Voice 6: because they want to live on the land and they want it to stay environmentally good.

[1:03:08] Voice 7: And so anybody who puts in a temporary permit, I think that we should trust them.

[1:03:14] Voice 7: there's always a bad guy of course but i think you should trust people to do what they say

[1:03:19] Voice 4: they're going to do otherwise there's going to be no progress at all in living on this

[1:03:24] Voice 4: and so i'm in favor of this permit yeah thank you for that and in the back

[1:03:35] Voice 4: i think we all

[1:03:36] Voice 4: definitely are just and we all appreciate the contractors

[1:03:45] Voice 4: I'm very grateful for the people who do that and work on that.

[1:03:50] Voice 4: However, I just want to speak to the use of a TUP for this purpose, because in the staff

[1:03:56] Voice 4: report, it stated that a

[1:03:58] Voice 9: TUP is a mechanism that facilitates

[1:04:00] Voice 7: a short-term use, either

[1:04:02] Voice 7: a use that is intended to be temporary or allows the use to be initiated while determining

[1:04:09] Voice 7: its compatibility with a property

[1:04:11] Voice 4: through the reasonabling process.

[1:04:13] Voice 4: And the staff report goes on to say, in this circumstance, the applicant is seeking a duration

[1:04:20] Voice 4: of the TUP for six years.

[1:04:23] Voice 4: And then the staff report goes on to describe the applicant's rationale to improve

[1:04:29] Voice 9: the efficacy

[1:04:30] Voice 4: of material transfer, to reduce the cost of neighborhood materials to the consumer, and

[1:04:36] Voice 4: to reduce the pressure on use in ferries, which has limited capacity for commercial vehicles.

[1:04:41] Voice 4: However, given that description of a TUP or definition of a TUP and then this particular

[1:04:49] Voice 4: rationale, contrary to the conclusion of the staff report, which says the rationale is

[1:04:57] Voice 4: reasonable and needs to generally depend on the TUP,

[1:05:01] Voice 4: I would say a requested duration

[1:05:03] Voice 4: of six years for a TUP paired with the business case rationale as described in the staff report

[1:05:11] Voice 4: court should be one to exactly the opposite conclusion

[1:05:14] Voice 13: this

[1:05:15] Voice 4: tup application is not intended

[1:05:18] Voice 7: to facilitate short-term needs for temporary use the application should be denied otherwise

[1:05:25] Voice 7: zoning on this island

[1:05:27] Voice 4: means little we may as well have land use by tup

[1:05:32] Okay. Yes.

[1:05:36] Voice 6: Yes,

[1:05:36] Voice 7: I would like to add to

[1:05:38] Voice 6: the opinion that this will be

[1:05:40] Voice 4: an application always solved.

[1:05:43] Voice 4: Because when we solve the problem, what is the value of what is going to happen?

[1:05:49] Voice 4: It shouldn't be a true attitude.

[1:05:52] Voice 4: But if they don't, that is not what you said, a solved application.

[1:05:59] Voice 5: Okay, thank you.

[1:06:00] Voice 5: Yeah, I'm just going to point out we're about...

[1:06:04] Voice 5: We're working about half an hour over time here on this session, so something new?

[1:06:20] Voice 12: Transport Canada has recently increased the tonnage allowed on ferries.

[1:06:28] Voice 12: I mean, that's on trucks that are on the ferry and on

[1:06:32] Voice 12: people that can get their ferry and all of that.

[1:06:34] Voice 4: That

[1:06:34] Voice 12: is no longer a problem.

[1:06:35] Voice 12: If you talk to these ferries, that's no longer a problem.

[1:06:44] Voice 12: There's not anything.

[1:06:46] Voice 12: Oh, one more.

[1:06:47] Voice 12: If this is not correctly about what I want to say about our county's

[1:06:59] Voice 4: OCPs, can I say it?

[1:07:00] Voice 13: Yeah.

[1:07:01] Voice 7: Okay.

[1:07:01] Voice 7: So, in due of our late Trustee Lillie DiCario, who was in the office when we initiated the

[1:07:14] Voice 7: community plan, the official community plan that we knew, and through the work of hundreds

[1:07:20] Voice 7: the people on the island came together to create what lcp that really reflected the hopes and

[1:07:28] Voice 7: aspirations of the island so i'm wanting to talk about the ocp in that context i believe our ltc

[1:07:36] Voice 7: needs to re-situate its land use decision making within the community-based objectives laid out

[1:07:43] Voice 7: in Galliano's official community plan and land use by-law.

[1:07:47] Voice 7: These OCP objectives represent the public interest.

[1:07:52] Voice 7: The desire to bring non-conforming land uses into compliance

[1:07:56] Voice 7: to significant alterations to our OCP

[1:08:00] Voice 7: has had detrimental effects on our community,

[1:08:04] Voice 7: especially in the loss of community planning

[1:08:07] Voice 7: for forest one F1 development.

[1:08:10] Voice 7: Two very different X1 applications illustrate the results of trying to bring to compliance non-conforming, illegal, non-forestry activities and land uses under bottom-up enforcement.

[1:08:25] Voice 7: Some land use activities and proposals just

[1:08:28] Voice 8: don't fit.

[1:08:31] Voice 8: Two examples, one

[1:08:34] Voice 7: of the ones we discussed, which is the industrial aggregate storage facility on F1 land.

[1:08:42] Voice 7: A very different application, well, I'm sorry, an application to allow the industrial development of what has become, through clear cutting and air conditions, a farm attitude on F1 zone land.

[1:08:57] Voice 7: The concern that includes, for example, the storage of over 100 empty utility pools with winter runoff and toxins finding their way into dishes away from this property.

[1:09:11] Voice 7: And this I know because, as I said earlier, Montague Road is my thoroughfare, and I use it on my bicycle in the winter.

[1:09:20] Voice 7: And the top of Montague, adjacent to this property, is mostly a wetland right beside the road, and often the water goes into the ditches and sometimes over the road.

[1:09:34] Voice 7: So water is leaving this property for sure in the winter, carrying with it toxins into the ditches away from the property.

[1:09:43] Voice 7: This issue is not really well addressed in the staff report.

[1:09:47] Voice 7: It's a piecemeal approach of staff assessing the validity of this concern and producing second-fin foundations for our LTC to choose from.

[1:09:57] Voice 7: Instead, what is needed is the LTC being able to vet this application with the F1 OCP and land use bylaws, and denying an application if it has to be denied because it can't fit within the LTC.

[1:10:15] Voice 7: Another example

[1:10:16] Voice 7: is the visitor accommodation facility rezoning application for F1 land.

[1:10:22] Voice 7: An F1 litter accommodation facility, which has been illegally developed and is under

[1:10:30] Voice 7: bylaw enforcement for many years, still does not meet the criteria for F1 rezoning in our

[1:10:36] Voice 7: course OCP.

[1:10:37] Voice 7: Through many terms, the LTP and trust resources have been taken up trying to bring this development

[1:10:45] Voice 7: into compliance.

[1:10:49] Voice 7: Groundwater, septic discharge, improper road access, forest fragmentation, illegal building and stop work borders have been responded to in a piecemeal approach, with slight modifications made, but the whole of the application far from fitting within our OCP objectives.

[1:11:11] Voice 7: So in conclusion, I believe our community would do better if our LTC were able to base its land use decisions, decision making on the OCP and LBB guidelines, really assess applications on how they fit our OCP.

[1:11:31] Voice 7: It's the best organizing document that we have developed so far.

[1:11:36] Voice 7: It protects the public interest, the trust mandate, and the democratic will of citizens to have a voice in the development of their community.

[1:11:46] Voice 7: Thank you very much for listening.

[1:11:49] Voice 4: Okay, thank you for that.

[1:11:51] Voice 4: I'm going to move on if there's anyone else pressing in new.

[1:11:57] Voice 5: Did I get to speak?

[1:11:58] Voice 2: Oh, sure.

[1:11:59] Voice 2: Yes. Well, I am the team P, so I never heard so much bullshit from hypocrites in all my life.

[1:12:09] Voice 2: Here, Sandy Martin has an excavator twice my size, a dump truck, and is right above the creek that she lives on.

[1:12:20] Voice 2: and yes she gets up and says that

[1:12:23] Voice 4: drive locket

[1:12:25] Voice 4: drive locket

[1:12:27] Voice 4: has

[1:12:28] Voice 2: an illegal septic field

[1:12:30] Voice 4: an

[1:12:32] Voice 2: illegal septic field um and uh right on their property this this piece of this tup

[1:12:42] Voice 2: is uh it is come about because we're not gonna be getting gravel from vancouver island on the bc

[1:12:53] Voice 2: ferries and uh the the the the salish raven was upgraded in its weight because to match the the

[1:13:05] Voice 2: Yorker and all the rest of them. The weight of the ferries is an issue. The more commercial

[1:13:17] Voice 2: vehicles on the ferry, the less vehicles get on that ferry. When they get to the waterline,

[1:13:22] Voice 2: they stop. And that is it. So if you want all your gravel to come from Vancouver Island,

[1:13:30] Voice 2: which it does, and expect to get on this island in an appropriate time to do your development,

[1:13:38] Voice 2: element, then you better look for an alternative source. I'm more than happy to sit on a ferry

[1:13:45] Voice 2: every day with my truck and drive up and down the road that you have no jurisdiction on. I can

[1:13:52] Voice 2: drive any road I want. But that is not the purpose of this TUP. The TUP is pointed out so that we

[1:14:04] Voice 2: We have an alternative solution to plugging up our ferry system, to plugging up our roads

[1:14:10] Voice 2: by a barge coming in and unloading in a 12-hour period so that people do have gravel on the

[1:14:17] Voice 2: island to do their construction.

[1:14:21] Voice 2: This makes no hill of beams to me.

[1:14:23] Voice 2: It will make a difference, those people of Galliano.

[1:14:27] Voice 2: This is not about me.

[1:14:28] Voice 2: This is the people of Galliano.

[1:14:30] Voice 2: Now, as Mary Jean Elliott says, we've donated and donated and donated to the community of this on on this island.

[1:14:39] Voice 2: I've been here for 50 years and this is good for the community.

[1:14:45] Voice 2: Doesn't matter about me. This is good for the community.

[1:14:51] Voice 5: Thank you for that. And I'm sorry, I didn't recognize that you were the applicant earlier.

[1:14:59] Voice 5: Definitely made sure to give you a spot there.

[1:15:02] Voice 5: um i think we're going to move on to the next section here now

[1:15:06] Voice 5: and uh if somebody wants to give ben a shout so bring him back to join

[1:15:11] Voice 5: well it was scheduled about 20 minutes

[1:15:24] Voice 5: um do you want to take her can

[1:15:26] Voice 2: i say one other thing we'll

[1:15:28] Voice 5: take you 10 minutes

[1:15:33] Voice 2: Go ahead and then we'll make the break.

[1:15:35] Voice 2: You asked that when you were reviewing my property,

[1:15:38] Voice 2: you said that my cattle and my animals were non-compliant with the

[1:15:43] Voice 4: zoning.

[1:15:47] Voice 4: With F1 zoning?

[1:15:48] Voice 2: Yes.

[1:15:49] Voice 4: The cattle?

[1:15:50] Voice 2: Yes.

[1:15:51] Voice 4: And the goats?

[1:15:52] Voice 4: Yep.

[1:15:56] Voice 12: You

[1:15:57] Voice 2: were saying they're not compliant.

[1:15:59] Voice 2: My question to you today is, do you want me to remove my cattle and my goats from my property?

[1:16:07] Voice 4: I would advise you to comply with the plan use, as anyone would.

[1:16:17] Voice 5: We're going to take a 10-minute break that we scheduled a little bit earlier, and we'll come back to section

[1:16:28] Voice 13: 10, I guess.

[1:18:14] Voice 4: So

[1:18:23] Voice 5: we have no committee information meeting for public hearing today that brings us to

[1:18:30] Voice 5: the minutes uh

[1:18:31] Voice 4: march 14th uh trustees is

[1:18:37] Voice 5: there are there any uh corrections the minutes come for me

[1:18:41] Voice 5: okay we'll take it back and set that the minutes are dropped with this

[1:18:45] no resolution self-meeting planning commission minutes and we have a follow-up action list

[1:18:55] Voice 5: jaded april 2023 anything you're not going to stack them all and

[1:19:00] Voice 4: stuff but if you have any

[1:19:02] Voice 4: particular questions okay so i didn't want to check in with me as the speakers and the

[1:19:11] Voice 4: microphones for the next meeting right i haven't heard anything about that

[1:19:33] Voice 4: So

[1:19:34] Voice 5: maybe in about two weeks, it sounds like maybe send her an email.

[1:19:39] Voice 4: It

[1:19:40] Voice 5: is on the list here.

[1:19:41] Voice 4: Okay.

[1:19:44] Voice 4: No delegations.

[1:19:46] Voice 4: It's on the webpage.

[1:20:07] Voice 4: Okay.

[1:20:07] Voice 4: Okay, that brings us into applications and referrals.

[1:20:16] Voice 4: So we'll start with 15.5.

[1:20:19] Voice 5: Take the room.

[1:20:24] Voice 5: Use install.

[1:20:28] Voice 5: And we have a stack report of page 18.

[1:20:33] Voice 5: And

[1:20:37] Voice 4: it's that, sorry, I'm having my mouse read died,

[1:20:43] Voice 4: so it's taking longer to navigate

[1:20:45] Voice 5: than I usually would.

[1:20:47] Voice 5: And, Charlie, are you?

[1:20:49] Voice 1: Yeah, I'm here.

[1:20:51] Voice 1: Okay,

[1:20:52] Voice 5: do you wanna go ahead?

[1:20:54] Voice 1: Sure do.

[1:20:55] Voice 1: Hey, good afternoon, Chair Peterson and Trustee Gavreau.

[1:20:59] Voice 1: The application before you is a temporary use permit, GLTUP 2023.2,

[1:21:04] Voice 1: which seeks to permit storage of a maximum of two tons of aggregate and soil

[1:21:08] Voice 1: in a 0.407 hectare or one acre area on the property

[1:21:13] Voice 1: and further the transfer of materials.

[1:21:16] Voice 1: The application does not allow for public retail sales on site.

[1:21:19] Voice 1: There is no processing or washing of materials on the property.

[1:21:22] Voice 1: The TUP is sought for for a duration of three years, which, if approved, the applicant would be able to apply to renew, so it's not automatically six years, it's a duration of three years.

[1:21:33] Voice 1: I'd like to emphasize that everyone has a right to apply for a TUP so long as the property is within a designated area where temporary uses may be allowed and the basic requirements for an application are made.

[1:21:45] Voice 1: The property is 1008 Montague Road and is 23.77 hectares or 58.74 hectares in area.

[1:21:57] Voice 1: It is zoned Forest 1, which permits timber production and harvesting and accessory forestry uses.

[1:22:03] Voice 1: A temporary use permit may allow a use not permitted by zoning, specify conditions under which the use may be carried on,

[1:22:11] Voice 1: and allow and regulate the construction of buildings or structures in respect of the use

[1:22:16] Voice 1: for which the permit is used. This is a mechanism that facilitates a short-term use,

[1:22:20] Voice 1: either a use that is intended to be temporary or allows the use to be initiated while determining

[1:22:25] Voice 1: its compatibility for the property through the rezoning process. The applicant's rationale is

[1:22:30] Voice 1: as follows, to improve the efficiency of material transfer and to reduce pressures on BC ferries

[1:22:36] Voice 1: and to reduce the cost of aggregates to consumers.

[1:22:39] Voice 1: As stated in the report, the site is in proximity to Montague Harbour,

[1:22:43] Voice 1: allowing for barging in of materials.

[1:22:46] Voice 1: The TUP areas within DPA 4 elevated groundwater,

[1:22:49] Voice 1: but is exempted as no land alteration resulting in alteration

[1:22:53] Voice 1: to the natural contours of the land is proposed.

[1:22:56] Voice 1: Widening of the entrance to Montague Road is proposed,

[1:22:59] Voice 1: which is outside of the TUP, or out of the side of the DP,

[1:23:02] Voice 1: and would be subject to conditions which include safety and efficiency

[1:23:06] Voice 1: via a highway access permit application with MOTI,

[1:23:10] Voice 1: Ministry of Infrastructure and Transportation.

[1:23:13] Voice 1: There were previous bylaw enforcement files on the property related to land use,

[1:23:18] Voice 1: metal recycling and related material as part of GLBE 2017.4

[1:23:23] Voice 1: and have been removed and the file has been closed.

[1:23:26] Voice 1: As has been raised, there are BC Hydro's poles on the property,

[1:23:31] Voice 1: which are intended for fencing.

[1:23:32] Voice 1: However, storage and the proposed use do not contravene the land use by-law.

[1:23:37] Voice 1: It was confirmed that the burning of tree stumps was not occurring on the property as part of GLBE 2021.12.

[1:23:43] Voice 1: And although it's beyond the scope of this TUP application, this TUP is strictly for the commercial use on a forestry lot.

[1:23:54] Voice 1: We do have to cover all activities on the property.

[1:23:57] Voice 1: And so it was noted during a site visit on March 30th

[1:24:00] Voice 1: that there are two agricultural structures on the property,

[1:24:03] Voice 1: which are attachment two for reference and livestock,

[1:24:07] Voice 1: which is not a permitted use on a forestry one lot.

[1:24:10] Voice 1: So the applicant will either need to cease the use

[1:24:13] Voice 1: or apply for a permit in order to bring the property

[1:24:15] Voice 1: into compliance.

[1:24:16] Voice 1: And again, that's external.

[1:24:19] Voice 1: As of today, staff have received the following submissions,

[1:24:23] Voice 1: which have been reviewed by the trustees

[1:24:26] Voice 1: and Chair, Trustee and Chair.

[1:24:30] Voice 1: So 11 letters in opposition to the application as proposed,

[1:24:33] Voice 1: three letters in support of application as proposed,

[1:24:36] Voice 1: and then 80 petition signatures

[1:24:38] Voice 1: in support of the application.

[1:24:40] Voice 1: The letters in opposition include the following.

[1:24:43] Voice 1: So that the proposed TUP area is cited within DPA 4,

[1:24:47] Voice 1: environmental concerns regarding BC hydro poles

[1:24:50] Voice 1: on the property, traffic and congestion on Montague Road,

[1:24:53] Voice 1: particularly during the summer

[1:24:54] Voice 1: and tourist season,

[1:24:58] Voice 1: that there are other sources of aggregate

[1:25:00] Voice 1: on Galeano Island,

[1:25:02] Voice 1: that the commercial use is already in existence

[1:25:04] Voice 1: without an issued permit,

[1:25:05] Voice 1: that the non-permitted uses have existed

[1:25:08] Voice 1: and continue to exist on the property,

[1:25:10] Voice 1: concerns about driveway siting,

[1:25:11] Voice 1: concerns about alignment with OCP guidelines,

[1:25:13] Voice 1: concerns with the TEP for commercial use on a forestry lot,

[1:25:16] Voice 1: concerns regarding dust in the summer

[1:25:18] Voice 1: related to the use and impacts on neighbors,

[1:25:19] Voice 1: and noise related to the use.

[1:25:22] Voice 1: and so like as I said in the staff report and in the conditions for the TUP a lot of this has been

[1:25:28] Voice 1: addressed but the proposed permit provides conditions to ensure that the use doesn't

[1:25:35] Voice 1: have adverse effects and the event that it does there is recourse of enforcement or non-renewal

[1:25:40] Voice 1: so letters in support include the following that the proposed use will help with employment and

[1:25:45] Voice 1: support small businesses on the island that the materials that will be stored are very well needed

[1:25:50] Voice 1: for projects and having the availability of aggregate is is uh you know imperative for

[1:25:54] Voice 1: preventative and restoration work due to climatic events such as you know atmospheric rivers etc

[1:26:00] Voice 1: um and the proximity of the site to montague harbor is suitable for for barging of aggregates

[1:26:05] Voice 1: and and sort of um alleviating uh full reliance on bc ferries and being able to like barge in a

[1:26:11] Voice 1: larger quantity related to the use um so the recommendations found on the first page of this

[1:26:16] Voice 1: report are supported as a TUP area as proposed as a small footprint relative to the property size

[1:26:23] Voice 1: is not visible from Montague Road with respect to like fencing and screening which is a condition

[1:26:30] Voice 1: in the OCP it is suitable for the proposed commercial use without requiring major land

[1:26:36] Voice 1: alteration and applicants rationale is reasonable and alternatives to the recommendation are listed

[1:26:43] Voice 1: on page 21 to 22 in the agenda package and the applicant is here and can answer any questions

[1:26:49] Voice 1: that you may have and thank you

[1:26:52] Voice 4: for that um thank you very much for your hard work on that

[1:26:59] Voice 4: application um i see that sam's not here answer any questions

[1:27:09] Voice 4: i've considered this application at length and i've spoken with many community members and the

[1:27:15] Voice 4: applicant um in addition to a site visit last sunday

[1:27:18] Voice 6: while i do support sustainable economic

[1:27:21] Voice 6: economic activities in our community i can't vote for favor this application due to its location on

[1:27:28] Voice 6: f1 zone property and opposition from the residential neighbors downhill the uses outlined

[1:27:35] Voice 6: in tup are not a light footprint and are contrary would modify galleon forest policies and objectives

[1:27:44] Voice 4: Here's why that matters. The OCP upholds the values and the beliefs of our community, as aligned with the Honours Trust mandate to preserve and protect our community.

[1:27:54] Voice 4: We took these values and beliefs to the Supreme Court of Canada, and I cannot temporarily and provisionally alter these bylaws for a TUP.

[1:28:04] Voice 4: As I said, it's not a light footprint. This would be a large-scale commercial activity,

[1:28:08] Voice 4: which would mean a non-permitted industrial use of a forest lot, which is not allowed under an LUB.

[1:28:16] Voice 4: This would be permitted under forest industrial economic activity zone in the OCP.

[1:28:22] Voice 4: My recommendation is that only a rezoning would ensure that the objectives and the policies set out by our OCP

[1:28:29] Voice 4: and our community are adhered to in a fair and transparent way, not in the use of this TUP.

[1:28:36] Voice 4: i am prepared to make a motion okay

[1:28:39] Voice 5: thank you um let's say that based on my reading of

[1:28:45] Voice 5: the application and uh the various uh the pertinent sections of the ocp i tend to agree

[1:28:54] Voice 5: um uh also just in uh from general principles if there's non-performing uses

[1:29:02] Voice 5: is um ongoing on the properties of an application that it's my understanding that those issues

[1:29:09] Voice 5: should cease um before considering an application um so i'm perfectly happy to

[1:29:16] Voice 4: entertain a motion

[1:29:16] Voice 4: at this point fantastic i move that the galliano island local trust committee denied temporary use

[1:29:23] Voice 4: permit application glput 2023.2 right

[1:29:29] Voice 5: so we'll second

[1:29:30] Voice 4: that any further discussion

[1:29:37] Voice 4: uh i just want to say this is so yeah as a trustee as a new trustee this is a hard one

[1:29:42] Voice 4: right you know sam we all like sam we all only want the best for our communities

[1:29:47] Voice 4: like to see more communication between people a lot of questions that came to me

[1:29:53] Voice 4: uh like around the pools uh on the property and you know when i was talking to santa

[1:30:00] Voice 4: them i didn't realize they were actually cut down and linked and meanwhile that does may not mean

[1:30:04] Voice 4: that the chemicals still aren't in the polls but there's there's pieces that are missing from the

[1:30:10] Voice 4: conversation and i just encourage everyone to talk us and try to be those good neighbors and continue

[1:30:15] Voice 4: that

[1:30:15] Voice 5: thank you for that um yeah it seems to me that the most appropriate way forward is in fact

[1:30:25] Voice 5: an application for reasonably substantive substantially different use than the zoning

[1:30:32] Voice 5: as it stands yeah

[1:30:34] Voice 4: okay

[1:30:36] Voice 5: all right well uh if there's nothing further then i'll call for the

[1:30:40] Voice 5: question all those in favor of the motion and that carries is denied uh we can ask uh trustee

[1:30:51] Voice 5: neighborly to return my

[1:31:00] Voice 4: mouse. It's a real drag. 39.

[1:31:34] Voice 4: want to give a shout out? Oh, you got a response? Okay.

[1:31:58] Okay. Yeah, we're having a similar similar

[1:32:01] Voice 4: questions on the CD. In fact, what we did,

[1:32:04] Voice 4: there was a separate set of speakers and microphone help, but it wasn't integrated with the system.

[1:32:16] Voice 4: So that might be kind

[1:32:17] Voice 13: of

[1:32:18] Voice 4: broadcast broadcast. Okay, so we have a staff report. And it's

[1:32:32] Voice 4: from kim stockfield who's not here who's going to take this one is that you brad or is that

[1:32:41] Voice 4: it's you okay no worries so this is a final report but i am presenting it and i was uh

[1:32:50] Voice 4: working with the applicant at the start of her uh proposed uh rezoning application so i'm

[1:32:57] Voice 4: pretty familiar with it so what's being presented here uh returning back

[1:33:04] Voice 4: is the application of 4-9-0 Gardiner Road for the rezoning of UBIS property and are today

[1:33:17] Voice 4: presenting the draft by-laws of the previous meeting in December, was the last time I was

[1:33:30] Voice 4: here?

[1:33:30] Voice 4: Sorry, the previous meeting in December, the Local Trust Committee directed staff to draft

[1:33:36] Voice 4: the amendment bylaws for this application and so that's where we are here today presenting

[1:33:41] Voice 4: the draft bylaw amendments working through the report the application seems to be consistent

[1:33:51] Voice 4: with the address policy statement which is provided to you today there are there is still

[1:33:59] Voice 4: the groundwork reports it's consistent with the ocp and the land use bylaw in terms of reference

[1:34:17] Voice 4: key point she's still working on is the groundwater report so the drilling the well

[1:34:25] Voice 4: it well

[1:34:25] Voice 14: is scheduled and that is coming up hopefully in the future and she can speak to that

[1:34:32] Voice 14: there's

[1:34:33] Voice 4: a list of recommended

[1:34:33] Voice 14: agencies for referral you can speak to that if you have

[1:34:38] Voice 14: other

[1:34:38] Voice 4: additional agencies and the list of first nations are the standard lists that we would

[1:34:45] Voice 4: be provided by the province provide their drill down tool to determine what nations that we are

[1:34:52] Voice 4: are. Bylaws themselves,

[1:35:00] Voice 14: the portion of the property is being

[1:35:04] Voice 14: resolved

[1:35:05] Voice 4: from residential to agriculture. So you need both an

[1:35:08] Voice 4: OCP amendment and a language bylaw amendment with the OCP

[1:35:12] Voice 4: amendment at some point. The land use bylaw results, the

[1:35:22] Voice 4: portion of the property for a residential day we're going to pass it back to the chair and

[1:35:30] Voice 4: open up to any questions you may have you may invite the applicants

[1:35:35] Voice 4: thanks any questions trustees just maybe yeah i've got a couple of things um just on the uh

[1:35:42] Voice 4: first nations i think we should include the close english peoples of galliano on that list

[1:36:07] Voice 4: Yeah, I

[1:36:08] Voice 3: didn't, like I said, I don't really see anything else. I didn't really have a

[1:36:15] Voice 3: problem with moving ahead. Prior to the groundwater report, I think we're going to get to that

[1:36:20] Voice 3: point anyways um that work is going to be done as we go along so for me i don't see any reason

[1:36:27] Voice 3: not to move exactly

[1:36:28] Voice 7: yeah i have the septic as well for the real life people need to see that

[1:36:32] Voice 7: but i imagine that i'll come

[1:36:34] Voice 4: to the next slide um yeah i reviewed and i endorsed the checklist

[1:36:39] Voice 4: um i see there's no added density potential here um yeah

[1:36:47] Voice 5: the address the trust committee at all.

[1:36:50] Voice 4: Yes, we're working on both of them.

[1:36:54] Voice 4: Okay, thank you.

[1:36:56] Voice 4: Yeah.

[1:36:58] Voice 4: I would add that typically we see a time of first reading that the local trust committee also considered the

[1:37:05] Voice 4: the checklist for the policy statement. So I do think that that

[1:37:13] Voice 4: well groundwater report would help to further inform that but

[1:37:15] Voice 4: you could certainly revisit that. Yeah. So you could pass the

[1:37:20] Voice 4: resolutions that are being recommended by staff for today.

[1:37:24] Voice 4: And if the groundwater report says something, you know, that's

[1:37:27] Voice 4: going to throw a wrench in everything. Yeah, that's right.

[1:37:29] Voice 4: Yeah. So

[1:37:30] Voice 12: that's where this

[1:37:31] Voice 4: will allow the vitals to get moving

[1:37:33] Voice 4: moving towards the agency and the person who should work for them.

[1:37:36] At

[1:37:36] Voice 4: least that's starting point.

[1:37:38] Voice 5: Yes, and certainly first reading

[1:37:40] Voice 5: is not an irrevocable step by any stretch.

[1:37:45] Voice 5: So, Chris Keese, we've got some recommended resolutions here.

[1:37:49] Voice 5: Are you prepared to?

[1:37:51] Voice 5: Yeah, sure, one or more of them.

[1:37:52] Voice 5: Number

[1:37:53] Voice 3: one, that Galliano Island Local Trust Committee

[1:37:55] Voice 3: bylaw number 287 cited as Galliano Island Official Community

[1:37:59] Voice 3: Plan bylaw number 108, 1995 amendment.

[1:38:03] Voice 3: number two 2022 be read for the first time

[1:38:08] Voice 4: uh

[1:38:09] Voice 5: so move seconded uh any further discussion all in favor uh motion is carried

[1:38:15] Voice 5: next

[1:38:16] Voice 6: one the galliano local trust committee bylaw number

[1:38:20] Voice 4: 288 cited as a galliano land use bylaw

[1:38:24] Voice 4: number 207 1999 amendment number two 2022 be read for the first time so

[1:38:32] Voice 5: i'm seconded

[1:38:33] Voice 5: and i just know that uh i think you've got the numbers transposed it's one two seven thank you

[1:38:40] Voice 5: at any rate just a small tacticality thank you

[1:38:44] Voice 5: any further discussion all those in favor

[1:38:49] Voice 5: motion carries uh the next one

[1:38:51] Voice 3: the galliano island local trust committee has reviewed the honest

[1:38:55] Voice 3: trust policy statement directives only checklist and determined that bylaw number 287 cited as

[1:39:01] Voice 3: galliano island official community plan bylaw number 108 1995 amendment number two 2022 is

[1:39:08] Voice 3: not contrary to or at variance with the honest trust policy statement salute

[1:39:13] Voice 5: seconded further

[1:39:15] Voice 5: discussion call the question all in favor motion's carried uh

[1:39:21] Voice 4: that the galliam local trust committee

[1:39:23] Voice 4: has reviewed the honest trust policy statement directives only checklist and determined that

[1:39:27] Voice 4: bylaw 228 288 sorry citing is the galileo land use bylaw number one seven one two seven

[1:39:36] Voice 4: 1999 uh amended number two uh uh sorry um 2022 is not contrary or at variance with the island

[1:39:46] Voice 4: trust policy statement so

[1:39:48] Voice 5: move seconded any further discussion no question on the favor

[1:39:53] Voice 5: motion is carried okay well thank you and we'll again have to navigate without a mouse here

[1:40:02] Voice 5: and i think that means us on

[1:40:05] Voice 4: to 15.3

[1:40:11] Voice 5: which is the submission from that pit from crystal mountain

[1:40:20] Voice 5: Here's the letter, is there any, any

[1:40:23] Voice 4: at the last meeting, the last meeting we spoke to.

[1:40:36] Voice 4: What was it here again?

[1:40:38] Voice 4: I really requested further information regarding the right-of-way agreement that Crystal Mountain

[1:40:46] Voice 4: has established with the CRD so there are some questions or concerns whether because you have

[1:40:55] Voice 4: the main concern was the portion of access through easement along the Romagnoli law and whether the

[1:41:07] Voice 4: easement or the easement that Chris Melton has applied to that with respect to the emergency

[1:41:13] Voice 4: access as you can see provided by the applicant in the letter is a legal opinion that means that

[1:41:20] Voice 4: because the

[1:41:21] Voice 14: CRD has entered into this agreement with the applicant who rules that legal easement

[1:41:28] Voice 14: and access across the Roman

[1:41:30] Voice 4: law, as an agent of the applicant, then the rights of the emergency

[1:41:39] Voice 4: access would be for all parties that use it through that particular use. So I think that

[1:41:48] Voice 4: addresses your questions. Do you have any questions? Yeah, no, I reviewed the documents.

[1:41:55] Voice 4: And, you know, I'm satisfied that this is pretty similar to what we did on on

[1:42:01] Voice 3: the Stevens property right now with Steven Henderson.

[1:42:04] Voice 3: And, you know, I'm satisfied that the public emergency access will go through that one.

[1:42:13] Voice 3: So, yeah, just next steps on this one, I guess.

[1:42:16] Voice 4: we're at a public hearing on may 6 and this will obviously be included as part of that public

[1:42:21] Voice 4: hearing yeah

[1:42:22] Voice 13: great i

[1:42:23] Voice 4: did ask if there was a cim at that meeting reason one schedule

[1:42:27] Voice 4: yeah no i

[1:42:28] Voice 4: remember we had a question about it from my audience once before but um yeah

[1:42:32] Voice 3: we just have a

[1:42:33] Voice 4: pretty comprehensive we've got two comprehensive cims yeah i mean

[1:42:38] Voice 3: i just think from

[1:42:39] Voice 3: my point of view yeah

[1:42:39] Voice 4: yeah you

[1:42:40] Voice 14: know we could

[1:42:41] Voice 4: amend your agenda but it is not uh the the public hearing

[1:42:47] Voice 14: has the statutory

[1:42:47] Voice 4: notification requirements yeah doesn't so you could have a regular special

[1:42:54] Voice 4: meeting agenda that day so you could consider adding uh a cam portion so that you have the

[1:43:01] Voice 4: opportunity and it's not atypical to have that right okay yeah that's something you guys can

[1:43:06] Voice 4: yeah maybe when we get to sure thanks great

[1:43:11] Voice 5: thank you very much uh so we're

[1:43:15] Voice 5: seeing that for information today and uh there's nothing on the local trust committee project

[1:43:26] Voice 5: we have a work program report at

[1:43:29] Voice 4: page 73 anything on that no i think we're waiting

[1:43:36] Voice 4: for a legal opinion on the groundwater sustainability project yeah

[1:43:40] Voice 13: a

[1:43:41] Voice 4: special meeting will be uh a

[1:43:44] Voice 4: special meeting will be scheduled when that when that legal opinion is provided yeah yeah

[1:43:50] Voice 4: then we've got feature projects report uh 74 on that today

[1:43:59] Voice 4: okay we've got the applications report on page 76. maybe this is where you want to talk about

[1:44:06] Voice 4: I mean, if you want to direct staff to your special meeting agenda to have time on the Crystal Mountain application, you could absolutely

[1:44:16] Voice 4: do that.

[1:44:17] Voice 3: Yeah, I'd actually like to do that. I'd like to have a little bit more time on it because this is something relatively new.

[1:44:23] Voice 3: And I think, you

[1:44:27] Voice 4: know, the public should have a chance to

[1:44:29] Voice 4: learn about the emergency access prior to the public hearing portion of the meeting.

[1:44:33] Voice 4: yeah the only challenge is uh timing of so it'll be up to the chair to manage the public hearing

[1:44:39] Voice 4: it

[1:44:39] Voice 3: should be a fairly short committee information because

[1:44:42] Voice 4: there's only one topic right

[1:44:43] Voice 5: yeah i i don't have any concerns about that but if you'd like to

[1:44:51] Voice 5: i'll

[1:44:52] Voice 3: put the motion forward to have a short committee information meeting prior to the

[1:44:55] Voice 3: public hearing?

[1:44:59] Voice 6: I'm just

[1:45:06] Voice 5: going to check with the minute taker. Did you did you catch that

[1:45:09] Voice 5: resolution?

[1:45:12] Voice 10: That you wanted to have a short community information meeting prior to the

[1:45:16] Voice 10: public hearing? On May 6?

[1:45:20] Voice 10: On May 6? Okay.

[1:45:23] Voice 5: Let's move and second it.

[1:45:26] Voice 10: All in favor? Okay,

[1:45:29] Voice 5: that's carried then thank you and okay we've got the there is no uh local expense report there's

[1:45:43] Voice 5: the uh adopted

[1:45:44] Voice 4: policies and resolutions

[1:45:46] Voice 5: on june 23 anything

[1:45:47] Voice 4: on that today no uh local trust

[1:45:53] Voice 4: committee web page in there okay we don't have an island trust conservancy report today

[1:46:02] Voice 4: Okay, let's

[1:46:05] Voice 5: bring this down to the new business section, we have an 18.1 report word for approval

[1:46:14] Voice 4: of 18.8.

[1:46:20] Voice 12: I don't see

[1:46:43] Voice 4: the report, but I don't see resolution attached.

[1:46:46] Voice 4: Yeah.

[1:46:46] Voice 4: Does

[1:46:47] Voice 1: it need a resolution

[1:46:48] Voice 4: or is it just for comment, just looking for approval for that?

[1:46:52] Voice 4: Yeah.

[1:46:56] Voice 4: I would say, unless you're happy with it, I could just put it in the follow up action.

[1:47:02] Voice 4: Okay.

[1:47:05] Voice 1: I mean, it would

[1:47:06] Voice 4: hurt to endorse the resolution.

[1:47:08] Voice 4: Maybe you should just do that.

[1:47:10] Voice 4: Yeah, okay.

[1:47:12] Voice 4: I'm just in case

[1:47:13] Voice 5: I need you to endorse.

[1:47:15] Voice 5: okay so that uh galiana local uh trust can be endorsed the state annual report is presented

[1:47:22] Voice 5: all right and so move seconded and all in favor and that carries and did you get that minute

[1:47:32] Voice 5: taker uh

[1:47:36] Voice 10: endorses the annual report as presented yes

[1:47:39] Voice 5: wonderful thank you okay and that brings us on

[1:47:44] Voice 5: on to the Freedom of Information Protection of Privacy By-law,

[1:47:51] Voice 5: essentially an update from the older version.

[1:47:54] Voice 5: There's a report here, which makes

[1:47:58] Voice 5: from the Director of Legislative Services.

[1:48:02] Voice 5: And anything on this, trustees?

[1:48:06] Voice 4: No, I think the amendments are very bland.

[1:48:15] um

[1:48:17] Voice 3: this to me is bookkeeping it's it's

[1:48:20] Voice 5: administrative yeah

[1:48:23] Voice 5: okay so we've got uh we've got some uh recommended resolutions here would you like to start with them

[1:48:30] Voice 5: yep

[1:48:30] Voice 4: i'll start at the galleon island uh local trust committee bylaw number uh 290

[1:48:37] Voice 6: cited as a galliano local trust committee freedom of information and protection of privacy bylaw

[1:48:42] Voice 6: number 290 2023. We read the first time. So

[1:48:47] Voice 5: moved and then seconded. Any further discussion?

[1:48:52] Voice 5: All the questions all in favor? The

[1:48:55] Voice 3: motion carries. And the next one. That the Galliano

[1:48:59] Voice 3: Island Local Trust Committee bylaw number 290 cited as Galliano Island Local Trust Committee

[1:49:03] Voice 3: Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy bylaw number 290 2023 be read for the second time.

[1:49:10] Voice 3: so moved

[1:49:11] Voice 5: seconded for the discussion all in favor motions carried all

[1:49:17] Voice 4: right that uh

[1:49:19] Voice 4: galliano local trust committee um bylaw number 290 cited as a galliano trust committee freedom

[1:49:25] Voice 4: of information and protection of uh privacy bylaw number two nine zero two thousand twenty three

[1:49:32] Voice 4: you read a third time

[1:49:33] Voice 5: seconded for the discussion call the question all of the favor carried and

[1:49:40] Voice 5: And finally, that the Galeano Island Local

[1:49:42] Voice 3: Trust Committee bylaw number 290 cited as Galeano Island Local Trust Committee Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy bylaw number 290-2023 be forwarded to the Secretary of the Islands Trust for approval by the Executive Committee.

[1:49:55] Voice 5: So moved, seconded, all in favor.

[1:49:59] Voice 5: And that motion carries.

[1:50:01] Voice 5: Thank you very much.

[1:50:02] Voice 5: And that

[1:50:03] Voice 4: brings us on to 18.3, the Galeano Cemetery Archaeology Permit Letter of Support.

[1:50:17] Voice 4: Is that you, Trustee Cutler?

[1:50:18] Voice 4: Yep, that was me.

[1:50:19] Voice 4: I recently met with the, at the cemetery committee, Galeano, because stress has happened with

[1:50:26] Voice 4: the cemeteries.

[1:50:27] Voice 4: I believe that if we, as LTT, were to draft a letter endorsing their permit, their application

[1:50:34] Voice 4: for a permit it might help speed it along um since november 2020 i think the church has been working

[1:50:43] Voice 4: with dr dr colin greer to assess the grounds of the galliano cemetery uh which includes the ralph

[1:50:51] Voice 4: and clara stevens extension since the pandemic started in 2020 no burials or internments have

[1:50:57] Voice 4: taken place in the cemetery there are 21 remains awaiting internment and many more family members

[1:51:05] Voice 4: awaiting closure for their loved ones this site includes identified protected archaeological site

[1:51:12] Voice 4: and the remainder of the cemetery land is believed to have middens material as well as sustaining

[1:51:18] Voice 4: staining trees that have helped tree burials long ago.

[1:51:23] Voice 4: This permit will allow St. Margaret's Anglican Church

[1:51:27] Voice 4: to begin work to protect the sacred,

[1:51:29] Voice 4: culturally valuable area.

[1:51:34] Voice 4: Thank you for that.

[1:51:36] Voice 4: And I see there's a resolution that's prepared here.

[1:51:41] Voice 4: Fantastic, and I'll make a motion.

[1:51:43] Voice 4: At the Galliano Island Local Trust Committee,

[1:51:45] Voice 4: send the Archaeological Branch of BC

[1:51:48] Voice 4: see a letter of support for St. Marcus Anglican Church's application for an archaeological permit

[1:51:54] Voice 4: to allow archaeological work on a portion of the Galliano Cemetery. So I'm going to second for

[1:52:00] Voice 4: discussion. Yep. So it's moved and seconded and discussion. Yeah so um has the church applied for

[1:52:09] Voice 4: the permit? I'm not here actually to answer the questions for church I guess that's the thing

[1:52:14] Voice 4: they can't i'm not i'm not sure

[1:52:16] Voice 4: what we're writing letters well they're going to be applying for

[1:52:19] Voice 4: right yeah so we want to give them a little letter statement for

[1:52:28] Voice 4: i

[1:52:31] Voice 3: mean it's it's for me it's a complicated one in the sense that there's a lot of work to be done

[1:52:39] Voice 3: between the church

[1:52:42] Voice 4: and all the First Nations, and I know

[1:52:48] Voice 3: this archaeological work has to be done,

[1:52:51] Voice 3: you know, Collingbury's been working there for a while, working on this for a while.

[1:52:57] Voice 3: I understand too, for the people of Galliano, you

[1:53:03] Voice 4: know, this is an important site. I'm gonna,

[1:53:12] Voice 4: to i think i'm going to vote in favor just to move the just to move something along i'm not sure that

[1:53:19] Voice 4: the you know and i'm not going to speak for anybody but i'm not sure that the work is being

[1:53:24] Voice 3: done as well as it can be done between global first nations and and all the parties involved

[1:53:31] Voice 3: but but i think we have to move something along yeah and

[1:53:35] Voice 3: um so i'll support it for that but

[1:53:37] Voice 3: you know um you know where i stand right like

[1:53:42] Voice 4: that yeah it was hard to draft it for that yeah

[1:53:45] Voice 4: um but try this as an ltc we're advocates we can advocate for this and our community does need it

[1:53:52] Voice 4: so i think by drafting this letter we have to approve the letters

[1:53:57] Voice 13: yeah yeah no i

[1:54:02] Voice 3: know i understand my role here is different than if i was sitting there

[1:54:05] Voice 3: i do understand that so um that's why i think i'll support it but i think there's a lot of

[1:54:11] Voice 3: work to be done on that site before um there's a resolution here right so you

[1:54:19] Voice 4: know i'll do it

[1:54:20] Voice 4: based on that thank you okay well thank you trustees

[1:54:25] Voice 5: and uh thank you

[1:54:28] Voice 5: on this so help me understand but clearly like i still don't understand as well as the two of you

[1:54:40] Voice 5: but i do appreciate the advocacy work on behalf of communities

[1:54:45] Voice 5: and

[1:54:46] Voice 13: stuff

[1:54:48] Voice 3: so i mean i personally think you know there's there's an opportunity

[1:54:53] Voice 3: um to find an alternate location um i i think that was presented to the community and to the

[1:55:00] Voice 3: gallon club actually a number of years ago is to maybe find a second site

[1:55:05] Voice 12: so

[1:55:06] Voice 3: that you know

[1:55:08] Voice 3: there's some issues that so that these long-standing issues can be resolved without

[1:55:13] Voice 3: out this pressure right and and i understand you know there's a lot of people in the past

[1:55:20] Voice 3: that are waiting to go in there their families are waiting for that so it's difficult um sort

[1:55:26] Voice 3: of to resolve resolve these issues in your mind and move things ahead so uh i mean i would urge

[1:55:35] Voice 3: the church and and the committee to also look for alternate sites as well so that uh you know

[1:55:46] Voice 3: we don't um run into an issue where we have a site and

[1:55:53] Voice 4: i've read a lot of information on our

[1:55:56] Voice 4: cemetery and how it came to be and

[1:55:59] Voice 3: you know i'm not sure that this is the best site for

[1:56:05] Voice 3: for galley so um but but i am going to support the motion just to look somewhere we're gonna

[1:56:17] Voice 3: try and get something okay

[1:56:19] Voice 5: yeah thank you for that um so if there's no further discussion i'll

[1:56:25] Voice 5: call the question all in favor okay that motion carries as well thank you for bringing that

[1:56:31] Voice 5: uh so under upcoming meetings we have a resolution here uh requesting staff to

[1:56:42] Voice 5: schedule an electronic special meeting to see what we're building in later to grab

[1:56:47] Voice 5: what a sustainability project um and i'm happy to entertain a motion from one of you on that

[1:56:59] Voice 4: well

[1:56:59] Voice 5: until we get the legal or notice of the legal opinion it's pretty tough to set the meeting well

[1:57:04] Voice 5: but we're going to request the staff to schedule it and when they receive the uh when the opinion

[1:57:11] Voice 5: comes through then we'll work on the scheduling this is

[1:57:16] Voice 4: authorized you have

[1:57:17] Voice 5: to do that yeah

[1:57:18] Voice 5: Yeah, okay.

[1:57:20] Voice 5: Resolution.

[1:57:22] Voice 4: Yeah.

[1:57:23] Voice 4: Proposal.

[1:57:24] Voice 4: Yeah.

[1:57:26] Voice 4: Okay.

[1:57:26] Voice 4: I got it.

[1:57:28] Voice 4: The trust committee request staff to schedule an electronic special meeting in order to receive legal opinion related to groundwater sustainability project.

[1:57:40] Voice 5: so second second any further discussions all those in favor and that motion is carried well

[1:57:46] Voice 5: our next regular meeting is scheduled for june

[1:57:51] Voice 4: 20th at the north hall we need to go

[1:57:56] Voice 4: see that and

[1:57:58] Voice 5: um so then we have a one more town hall opportunity here

[1:58:04] Voice 5: here um and i know we've got about 20 minutes of that miraculously back on the schedule so

[1:58:15] Voice 5: so uh address the local drums committee

[1:58:19] Voice 3: uh let's answer it yeah brad lockett's at 21

[1:58:23] Voice 3: um well i would just like for the record um since mr maberly was allowed to have a little temper

[1:58:30] Voice 3: for tantrum there um i would like for the record uh for everybody to know that mr fred stevens

[1:58:36] Voice 3: put in my septic system i had a permit um and it was done properly so i would just like to state

[1:58:43] Voice 3: that

[1:58:44] Voice 5: yes and so i'll hand it down at this end so i'll get you in the middle and then i'll put on

[1:58:51] Voice 5: Oh, yes.

[1:58:53] Voice 14: Also, the

[1:58:54] Voice 12: remark that Sam made about my excavator and my dump truck

[1:59:05] Voice 4: is we just

[1:59:06] Voice 4: purely use it for personal use on our own property. It's never off the property. And

[1:59:12] Voice 4: the dump truck doesn't even have a road license. And I also want to note that his remarks felt

[1:59:17] Voice 4: very threatened he felt threatened by the way he said it and it was like that all right

[1:59:25] Voice 5: um

[1:59:29] Voice 4: i just want to go back to the letter of march 21st regarding the recharge areas dpa that

[1:59:37] Voice 4: i need to refer to in the first time of fall and i just wanted to help in our neighborhood

[1:59:42] Voice 4: get consideration of our requests that the community for us be included in the dpa

[1:59:49] Voice 4: laws for recharge areas i'm just not clear about how we can um further make that request

[2:00:00] Voice 4: did she buy anything okay

[2:00:02] Voice 5: thank you for that uh comment from staff i know we weren't at the

[2:00:07] Voice 5: meeting and

[2:00:08] Voice 4: i'm not privy to the letter and i don't think either but what i would suggest is

[2:00:12] Voice 4: that you just continue to go through nursing

[2:00:14] Voice 4: managing their work on developing those files

[2:00:20] Voice 4: and send your feedback directly to her i'm not sure i'll follow up again thank you she's got a

[2:00:28] Voice 4: along. Okay,

[2:00:34] Voice 5: anyone else want to questions or comments today?

[2:00:42] Voice 5: Jane? Yeah,

[2:00:44] Voice 6: I just want to say that it might be useful for

[2:00:49] you to try to remind people about not addressing each other

[2:00:53] but addressing the LTC. So that

[2:00:56] Voice 6: because not everybody has been

[2:00:59] Voice 6: into lgc meetings so it might be a good history of that yeah

[2:01:05] Voice 5: thank you for that so i mean i did i

[2:01:08] Voice 5: i did allude to uh uh you know respectful um uh discussion earlier but yeah for anyone that

[2:01:17] Voice 5: didn't catch that and um obviously that's what we prefer to have and we can't actually

[2:01:25] Voice 5: stop words from coming out of people's mouths as it happens um but certainly this is about

[2:01:32] Voice 5: issues and non-personalities and i understand when somebody says something that you want to

[2:01:40] Voice 5: to respond um and that's totally normal and natural but it's it's it's not not intended to

[2:01:48] Voice 5: be a space for uh discussion about personal stuff so uh i mean i appreciate that the natural

[2:01:57] Voice 5: reaction to want to respond but better not yes i

[2:02:01] Voice 15: need to have uh basically a question

[2:02:03] Voice 15: um the

[2:02:07] Voice 3: top designation for

[2:02:10] Voice 4: short-term vacation rentals there was a freeze put on is that still

[2:02:15] Voice 4: still in fact there was a freeze and then the last uh term the trustees removed the language

[2:02:25] Voice 4: from the ocp that allows the issuance of uh temporary use permits for stvr so in fact it's

[2:02:32] Voice 4: not a phrase that is now in fact thank you great anything further

[2:02:42] Voice 5: all right then i'm going to uh

[2:02:46] Voice 5: call for adjournment.

[2:02:48] Excellent.

[2:02:50] Thank you for

[2:02:51] everyone participating.

[2:02:55] And

[2:02:58] thank you to

[2:03:03] Voice 13: the staff

[2:03:04] Voice 4: .

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Galiano Island Local Trust Committee 
Minutes of Regular Meeting 
 
Date:  
Location:  
April 11, 2023 
Galiano South Community Hall 
141 Sturdies Bay Road 
Galiano Island BC 
 
Members Present: Timothy Peterson, Chair 
 Ben Mabberley, Local Trustee 
 Lisa Gauvreau, Local Trustee 
  
Staff Present: Robert Kojima, Regional Planning Manager 
 Brad Smith, Island Planner 
 Charly Caproff, Planner 2 
 Pat Todd, Recorder 
  
Others Present: Approximately forty (40) members of the public were present. 
 
1. CALL TO ORDER 
Chair Peterson called the meeting to order at 1:00 p.m.  He acknowledged that the meeting was 
held on the territory of the Coast Salish First Nations. 
 
2. RISE AND REPORT – In-Camera Meeting March 14, 2023 
 Deferred to next meeting. 
 
3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 
By general consent, the agenda was approved as presented. 
 
4. TRUSTEE REPORT 
Trustee Gauvreau reported a busy month – number of meetings.  Her Trustee office hours are 
Monday 9:00 to 11:00 a.m., and she encouraged residents to drop by and chat.  Of note is the 
passing of former LTC Trustee Louise Decario who oversaw the 2-year review of the 
Official Community Plan (OCP) and she spoke highly of past Trustee Decario’s thoughtful 
leadership. 
 
Trustee Mabberley spoke of the significant time that past Trustee Decario had given to the 
Galiano community. 
 
 
A D O P T E D 

 
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5. CHAIR'S REPORT 
Chair Peterson spoke to LTC directing staff to draft and bring back Bylaw 228 regarding free-
ranging farm animals.  Bylaw enforcement staff are working on this item. 
Provincial monies have been received by IT, $150,000, for First Nations Engagement and 
Protocol Agreements. 
 
6. ELECTORAL AREA DIRECTOR'S REPORT- none 
 
7. TOWN HALL AND QUESTIONS 
 
 General Comments 
 
Speaker:  Regarding Wise Island and motion defeated at last meeting.  Decks and stairs are a 
necessity and would ask the LTC to reconsider decision.  Galiano Bylaws are not necessarily 
appropriate for Wise Island, need time to review Bylaws. 
 
Speaker:  Supportive of comments regarding Wise Island.  Correspondence noted last month 
could not be found on the web site.  Questioned if general correspondence is posted. 
 
Planner Smith noted general correspondence would appear in Public Agenda.  At this time one 
application is closed and one is in abeyance. 
 
Speaker:  In support of Wise Island comments. 
 
Speaker:  Letter submitted to staff.  Staff confirmed receipt; however, there is no specific 
information received yet to reply. 
 
Speaker:  Standing Resolutions of April 7, 2014 were not discussed regarding recent affordable 
housing rezoning applications and community benefit.  Questioned whether these were 
referenced/discussed in Staff Reports and at LTC meetings. 
 
Planner Smith spoke to application, stating significant efforts were made to review and answer 
questions regarding water.  A number of submissions were received concerning water problems.  
Wording is “Will be considered”.  Requirements and covenants are in place to monitor.  
 
Speaker:  Consider Gambier Island Bylaws for Passage Island, if they are applicable to Wise 
Island and if they could be incorporated into Galiano OCP.  Urging LTC to refer matter to 
Advisory Planning Commission.  Understood Staff have received a copy of Gambier Bylaws. 
 
Speaker:  Crystal Mountain rezoning application would create a large multi-unit visitor 
accommodation with no access to a main road, only a residential road which contravenes OCP 
Policy.  An emergency access created would be welcome.  A second development area 
contravenes many policies.  No justification for allowing a split.  There are ongoing concerns 
with water supply and consumption.  The 2015 report indicates less water than required for a 
commercial operation, and should require a Provincial Water License prior to proceeding with 

 
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application.  Against approval of development of Upper Ridge. 
 
  Chair Peterson directed the Town Hall to questions regarding a Temporary Use Permit. 
 
Trustee Mabberley recused himself at 1:28 p.m. due to conflict of interest. 
 
 Speaker:  TUP is a short-term usage, and the only reason for the TUP is to circumvent the 
rezoning process. 
 
Speaker:  Temporary Use Permit (TUP) is essential to island growth and would further serve the 
community.  Construction jobs could be completed faster and more efficiently, thus saving 
costs.  There would be less need to get supplies from off-island.  Trucks are currently on road 
twice a day.  It is a great investment and benefit to the community. 
 
Speaker: Suggest speakers use microphone.  There is unloading of material from barges and 
equipment grinding up the hill at Montague.  Road is a tourism corridor, busy with cyclists, etc., 
which is problematic. 
 
Speaker:  Questioned industrial use of the site regarding watershed.  Montague Road is 
extremely congested.   
 
Speaker:  Spoke in appreciation of comments regarding Louise Decario and her work for the 
community.  Referred to OCP and Land Use Bylaws (LUB) for contractors’ yards and construction 
yards.  Others are near or in residential areas. “Contractor Yard” is not what site was intended 
for. 
 
Speaker (resident of Montague Road who works from home):  Spoke, regarding TUP activities 
currently ongoing, inappropriate activities for forest lands, water contamination concerns, and 
neighbours’ right to enjoy property impacted by long-standing bylaw infractions. 
 
Speaker (resident of Montague Road):  Supports previous comments.  Spoke on concerns 
regarding industrial operation surrounded by residential homes, large truck traffic and effects 
on water. 
 
Speaker (resident of Montague Road):  Stated the paramount importance of water and 
protection from potential contamination including from storage of telephone poles.  
Compaction has been resulting in run-off and ditches are full.  Advised not to ignore DP4.   
 
Speaker:  Spoke of admiration for Louise Decario’s efforts, and the importance of Trustees to 
consider letters.  Is not supportive of TUP and advised to apply to rezone and initiate process to 
weigh the environmental impact.  Also stated that the area is not the place for industrial traffic. 
 
Speaker:  Will not support the TUP until a more fulsome and informed community dialogue is 
initiated.  Only received the Staff Report one week ago with only two days to respond in writing, 
and stated the need for more information and time to study before making a decision.  Is 
confused by the Staff Report, and was not advised of potential impacts.  Is of the opinion that 
the Ministry of Transportation and Infrastructure (MoTI) is only interested in access but not 

 
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traffic. 
 
Speaker:  Had written in opposition to the TUP.  Stated that Trustees should represent 
community members’ interests.  Spoke of implications of industrial use on forest area land and 
that the TUP is not appropriate tool.  Advised a more in-depth evaluation and assessment of the 
suitability and impact of rezoning. 
 
Speaker (resident Montague Road):  - Points of concern have been covered by previous 
speakers, potential impacts are unclear and unknown. 
 
Speaker (resident Montague Road):  –Voiced opposition to TUP, stating far too many problems 
as have been pointed out.  His primary concern is driveway access, as the development appears 
to be crossing his property on the map.  Advised a survey be conducted prior to approving the 
TUP. 
 
Speaker:  Noted previous support for the TUP, which was approved and recognises the need for 
soil and aggregate storage.  Does not support the current application.   
 
Speaker:  Opposed to the TUP due to concerns with farms produce for market and pollution.  
Desires to see a monitoring of activity. 
 
Speaker:  Opposed to TUP.  The crest of the hill increases the risk of possible accidents with the 
trucks for tourists and children. 
 
Speaker (resident Montague Road):   Declared the applicant’s right to live on the land in peace 
and quiet, as well as the importance of being a good steward for the land.  Stated the TUP goes 
against the OCP, and is seen as a way around rezoning.  Claims it has been in violation of Zone 
F1 uses for years. 
 
Speaker (property borders TUP area):  – Does not feel the traffic will impact significantly, adding 
that traffic has always been an issue on hill.  Supports a 3-year TUP.  Mentioned the storage area 
is deep into the lot, and doubts the impact on the water table as it has been there a long time.  
Stated a need to trust people to do what they say they will do. 
 
Speaker:  Does not support the TUP.  Stated that the TUP is supposedly for “short-term use” and 
temporary, but noted the application is for 6 years.  Compared the definition of a TUP versus the 
rationale of a TUP within the Staff Report.   
 
Speaker:  Stated the TUP should not be approved. 
 
Speaker:  Noted past work by Trustee Decario, whose review of the OCP reflected the hopes 
and aspirations of the island.  Advised to review the LUBs according to the OCP policies.  The 
TUP would have a significant impact on OCP, especially in the F1 Zone.  Mentioned current non-
conforming, illegal activities and the effort to legalize them.  Noted the TUP is adjacent to a wet 
land.  Advised the LTC needs to vet with OCP F1 Zone details.  The rezoning application and 
tourism accommodation does not conform to F1 within OCP objectives.   Advised the LTC needs 
to base decision making on OCP guidelines to protect public interests. 
 

 
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Speaker (TUP applicant):  Cited hypocritical comments and pointed out others using larger 
machinery and having illegal septic systems.  Stated the ferries as an issue, with more 
construction vehicles having an impact on passenger cars.  Advised that the TUP is an alternate 
solution, where the barges bring in material, unload and continue construction.  He also added 
that it eases pressure on the ferries, making it good for the community.  He also stated that 
animals are not legal on an F1 property, and advised to comply with the LUBs. 
 
Trustee Mabberley returned to the meeting at 2:15 p.m. 
 
8. COMMUNITY INFORMATION MEETING – None 
 
9. PUBLIC HEARING – None 
 
The meeting recessed for a break at 2:17 p.m. and resumed at 2:28 p.m. 
 
10. MINUTES 
10.1 Local Trust Committee Minutes Dated March 14, 2023  
 
By general consent, the Local Trust Committee meeting minutes of March 14, 2023 
were adopted. 
 
10.2 Section 26 Resolutions Without Meeting Report – None 
10.3 Advisory Planning Commission Minutes – None 
 
11. BUSINESS ARISING FROM MINUTES 
11.1 Follow-up Action List Dated April 2023 
 
Planner Smith noted that Planner Stockdill is looking into microphones for next meeting. 
 
12. DELEGATIONS – none 
13. CORRESPONDENCE 
 
Received from the public. 
 
14. MEETING BREAK - COMMUNITY UPDATE – none 
 
Trustee Mabberley recused himself at 2:31 p.m. due to conflict of interest. 
 
 
 

 
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15. APPLICATIONS AND REFERRALS 
 
15.1  GL-TUP-2023.2 (Mabberley) 
 
Planner Caproff reviewed the application, which is to store a maximum of 2 tons of 
aggregate for a term of 3 years, with an option to renew.  Rationale from applicant is 
that it would lower costs to consumers, lessen ferry traffic and no land alteration is 
involved, and supports the island, employment and location close to the harbour for 
barges, stating it is a small footprint relative to the lot size. There is livestock on the 
land, which is not permitted, and should be dealt with separate to the TUP.  Submissions 
to date have been 11 against, 3 for and 80 signatures on a petition supporting the TUP.  
Concerns raised were reviewed.   
 
Trustee Gauvreau spoke to the mandate to preserve and protect and noted it is a large 
commercial operation.  She stated she is not prepared to permit the TUP at this time, 
adding only a rezoning would be considered. 
 
Chair Peterson spoke in agreement, and stated ongoing non-conforming operations 
should cease prior to the rezoning application going forward. 
 
GL-2023-018 
 It was Moved and Seconded, 
That the Galiano Local Trust Committee not approve the issuance of Temporary 
Use Permit GL-TUP-2023.2 (Mabberley). 
  CARRIED 
  Process forward would be to make an application to rezone. 
 
Trustee Mabberley rejoined the meeting at 2:42 p.m. 
 
 15.2 GL-RZ-2022.2 (Hayes) 
 
Planner Smith reviewed the application, noting the report presents draft Bylaws as 
requested at the December meeting.  Work is ongoing regarding Groundwater report. 
 
Reviewed the checklist and the agencies were notified of the draft bylaws.  A request 
was made to include the Coast Salish of Galiano in First Nations listings. 
 
 GL-2023-019 
 It was Moved and Seconded, 
That the Galiano Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 287, cited as “Galiano 
Island Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 108, 1995, Amendment No. 2, 2022” 
be read for a first time. 
CARRIED 
 

 
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 GL-2023-020 
 It was Moved and Seconded, 
That the Galiano Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 288, cited as “Galiano 
Island Land Use Bylaw No. 127, 1999, Amendment No. 2, 2022” be read for a 
first time. 
  CARRIED 
   GL-2023-021 
   It was Moved and Seconded, 
That the Galiano Local Trust Committee has reviewed the Islands Trust Policy 
Statement Directives Only Checklist and determined that Bylaw No. 287, Cited 
as “Galiano Island Official Community Plan Bylaw No. 108, 1995, Amendment 
No. 2, 2022”, is not contrary to or at variance with the Islands Trust Policy 
Statement. 
CARRIED 
   GL-2023-022 
   It was Moved and Seconded, 
That the Galiano Local Trust Committee has reviewed the Islands Trust Policy 
Statement Directives Only Checklist and determined that Bylaw No. 288, Cited 
as “Galiano Island Land Use Bylaw No. 127, 1999, Amendment No. 2, 2022”, is 
not contrary to or at variance with the Islands Trust Policy Statement. 
CARRIED 
15.3 GL-RZ-2014.1 (Crystal Mountain) 
 
Planner Smith reviewed the progress to date.  Has spoken with applicant who is working 
with the Capital Regional District (CRD).  A Statutory Right of Way agreement has been 
negotiated with the CRD and allows for emergency access and egress across the lands.  
This secures 75% of the Emergency Access Route.  A legal memorandum was shared 
with the CRD, and the CRD are satisfied.  Legal opinion is that access is permitted 
through Easement.  There have been two comprehensive Community Information 
Meetings.   
 
Public Hearing is scheduled for May 6, 2023.  
 
16. LOCAL TRUST COMMITTEE PROJECTS 
 
Received for information. 
 
17. REPORTS 
17.1 Work Program Reports 
17.1.1 Active Projects Report Dated April 2023 
   Special meeting to be scheduled when legal opinion received on Groundwater. 
    
 

 
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   GL-2023-023 
   It was Moved and Seconded, 
That the Galiano Local Trust Committee ask staff to add a Community 
Information Meeting prior to the Public Hearing regarding Emergency Access, 
on the May 6, 2023 agenda. 
CARRIED 
17.1.2 Future Projects Report Dated April 2023 
 
Received for information. 
17.2 Applications Report Dated April 2023 
 
Received for information. 
17.3 Trustee and Local Expense Report – None 
17.4 Adopted Policies and Standing Resolutions  
 
Received for information. 
17.5 Local Trust Committee Webpage 
 
To be updated upon conclusion of meeting. 
17.6 Islands Trust Conservancy Report Dated – None 
 
18. NEW BUSINESS 
 
 18.1 Annual Report 
 
   GL-2023-024 
   It was |Moved and Seconded,  
That the Galiano Island Local Trust Committee approves the format and outline 
of contents for the 2022/2023 Annual Report. 
CARRIED 
 18.2 Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Bylaw 
    
   GL-2023-025 
   It was Moved and Seconded, 
That the Galiano Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 290, cited as “Galiano 
Island Local Trust Committee Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy 
Bylaw No. 290, 2023”, be read a first time. 
CARRIED 
    
 
 
 

 
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GL-2023-026 
   It was Moved and Seconded, 
That the Galiano Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 290, cited as “Galiano 
Island Local Trust Committee Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy 
Bylaw No. 290, 2023”, be read a second time. 
CARRIED 
   GL-2023-027 
   It was Moved and Seconded, 
That the Galiano Island Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 290, cited as “Galiano 
Island Local Trust Committee Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy 
Bylaw No. 290, 2023”, be read a third time. 
CARRIED 
  GL-2023-028 
  It was Moved and Seconded, 
That the Galiano Local Trust Committee Bylaw No. 290, cited as “Galiano Island 
Local Trust Committee Freedom of information and Protection of Privacy Bylaw 
No. 290, 2023”, be forwarded to the Secretary of the Islands Trust for approval 
by the Executive Committee. 
CARRIED 
18.3 Galiano Cemetery Archaeology Permit – Letter of Support 
 
Discussion 
 Advocate for Church to begin process for protection of identified historical site 
 A lot of work to be done between Church and First Nations 
 Opportunity to locate an alternative site 
 
  GL-2023-029 
  It Was Moved and Seconded, 
That the Galiano Local Trust Committee send to the Archaeology Branch of 
British Columbia a letter of support for St. Margaret Anglican Church’s 
application for an Archaeology Permit to allow archaeological work on a portion 
of the Galiano Cemetery. 
CARRIED 
 
19. UPCOMING MEETINGS 
19.1 Special Meeting – Groundwater Sustainability Project 
 
   GL-2023-030 
   It was Moved and Seconded, 
That the Galiano Island Local Trust Committee request staff to schedule an 
electronic Special Meeting in order to receive the legal opinion related to the 
Groundwater Sustainability Project. 
CARRIED 
 

 
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19.2 Next Regular Meeting Scheduled for June 20, 2023 at the Galiano North Hall, Galiano 
Island 
 
20. TOWN HALL 
 
Speaker:  In reference to a comment by the TUP applicant, requested that the record indicate 
their septic system was permitted and properly installed. 
 
Speaker:  In reference to a comment by the TUP applicant, stated that the large machinery is 
used only on their property for personal use; also felt the applicant’s remarks were threatening. 
 
Speaker:  Inquired regarding Groundwater Recharging Areas, advised to send any questions or 
feedback directly to Planner Chadwick. 
 
Speaker:  Stressed the importance of reminding the public to address the Trustees and not the 
individuals.  Stated that discussions should be respectful and should speak to issues and not 
personalities. 
 
Speaker:  Addressed the use of TUPs for Short Term Vacation Rentals (STVR) and questioned if 
the freeze still in place. 
 
Planner Smith informed speaker that the previous LTC had directed staff to remove language 
from OCP that allowed TUPs for STVRs through bylaw amendments. 
 
21. CLOSED MEETING – None 
 
22. ADJOURNMENT 
 
By general consent, the meeting was adjourned at 3:15 p.m. 
 
 
 
 
_________________________ 
Tim Peterson, Chair 
 
 
 
Certified Correct: 
 
 
 
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Pat Todd, Recorder