Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, April 8, 2025

[0:00:03] Voice 8: okay so good afternoon everyone i'd like to call this uh regular meeting of the galliano

[0:00:08] Voice 8: island local trust committee to order um be aware we're live streaming the meeting and a recording

[0:00:16] Voice 8: will be posted on the island trust website in two course approximately a week or so um i want to

[0:00:26] Voice 8: begin the meeting today by acknowledging we're fortunate to be able to gather here today in the

[0:00:30] Voice 8: territory of coast salish peoples and in particular the penelicate tribe stewards of these lands and

[0:00:36] Voice 8: waters since time immemorial land and territory acknowledgements are important today because

[0:00:43] Voice 8: colonialism is not just historical problems ongoing in the present day first nations title

[0:00:49] Voice 8: although recognized in canadian law has yet to significantly shape first nations canadian

[0:00:54] Voice 8: relationships in many areas and i want to

[0:00:57] Voice 8: acknowledge in particular that the galliano

[0:00:59] Voice 8: on a local trust committee and the Connecticut tribe have embarked on an important journey of

[0:01:03] Voice 8: relationship building together and the chief and council and trustees and staff have all been part

[0:01:10] Voice 8: of coming together for this important work and I really appreciate the work of each and every one

[0:01:16] Voice 8: of you to bring us to where we are today and the commitment um we've all made to keep working

[0:01:20] Voice 8: together and I also want to single out Councillor Ken Thomas uh for your invaluable role as being

[0:01:28] Voice 8: liaison coming to so many of our meetings i think has really been helpful to to build the back and

[0:01:34] Voice 8: forth that that's brought us to where we are today which i feels like a really positive space compared

[0:01:41] Voice 8: to where things were in the past and so i would appreciate all of you for that um my name is tim

[0:01:49] Voice 8: peterson i'm elected on mesquite island and i am the chair of the galliano island local trust

[0:01:54] Voice 8: Committee. With me today are local trustees Ben Maberly and Lisa Dubrow and this is a forum for

[0:02:04] Voice 8: the business of the local trust committee to consider land use planning and associated

[0:02:10] Voice 8: matters. Joining us also is our planner Kim Stockdale and online doing our meeting and

[0:02:18] Voice 8: administration is Lisa Millard all for your work here so we have an agenda before us and

[0:02:27] Voice 8: I'll look to trustees to see if there's anything uh amendment today trustee Mabry yeah um we

[0:02:35] Voice 9: received a letter from Colleen Doty in regards to um the self-provision um and it is requiring

[0:02:44] Voice 9: requiring or asking for us to discuss removing the requirement for road dedication?

[0:02:55] Voice 4: Yes, through the chair if I may. I haven't had a chance to go through it and look at the request.

[0:03:00] Voice 4: So I can do that as we're going through the meeting, but it may require something where staff comes back with a staff report

[0:03:07] Voice 4: with a motion. I'll have to dig into it a little bit more.

[0:03:11] Voice 4: So

[0:03:12] Voice 9: maybe we just put it under new business, but we'll

[0:03:14] Voice 8: get to that.

[0:03:14] Voice 8: absolutely that's great okay so let's add this then at 19.2 your new business and we'll see

[0:03:29] Voice 8: what happens when we get there and if there's nothing further then i'll take it by general

[0:03:35] Voice 8: consent the amended agenda is adopted as amended and that brings us to the trustee report section

[0:03:42] Voice 8: actually who wants to go first today oh uh

[0:03:46] Voice 4: good afternoon everyone uh since our last meeting

[0:03:50] Voice 4: i've been meeting with community members attending an in-person trust conservancy meeting

[0:03:57] Voice 4: and participating in my first trust programs committee meeting as you may have heard that

[0:04:03] Voice 4: trust programs committee has been tasked to work on the policy statement with the goal of completing

[0:04:09] Voice 4: a first walk through the trustee amendments um and also being ready being ready for the june trust

[0:04:15] Voice 4: council meeting i put my name forward at the march trust council to be on the committee and i was

[0:04:22] Voice 4: appointed along with a few others we brought in that membership like quite a bit i can't remember

[0:04:29] Voice 4: exactly how many members are thank you yeah as well yeah um again i look forward to these meetings

[0:04:38] Voice 4: I found that last May extremely productive.

[0:04:43] Voice 4: At

[0:04:44] Voice 5: the end of March, I had the privilege

[0:04:45] Voice 4: of attending a local event hosted by the Galliano Library,

[0:04:49] Voice 4: one book reading program.

[0:04:52] Voice 4: The book is titled, A Mind Spread Out on the Ground

[0:04:56] Voice 4: by Mohawk author Alicia Elliott.

[0:04:59] Voice 4: The book was chosen by a group of indigenous members

[0:05:01] Voice 4: in the Galliano community for its resonance and insight.

[0:05:06] Voice 4: in sight. The book has been described as a bold and profound meditation on trauma, legacy,

[0:05:13] Voice 4: oppression, and racism in North America. The event was widely attended and closely modeled

[0:05:21] Voice 4: after the Maine Islands Initiative One Book series. The Galeano One Book Project invites

[0:05:28] Voice 4: all Highlanders to read a book that supports truth and reconciliation. And also as part

[0:05:35] Voice 4: As far as the series, I had the opportunity to meet with the author, Alicia Elliott, right here in the hall.

[0:05:41] Voice 4: And the event took place in late January and was a deeply meaningful experience.

[0:05:48] Voice 4: In other news, you may have heard that Trustee Patrick O'Sullivan was elected to Chair of Honest Trust Council.

[0:05:56] Voice 4: And I'm delighted to let everyone know that Trustee Peterson here will continue on to serve as Chair of the Gallium Committee.

[0:06:05] Voice 4: that's about it for me really um my office hours are mondays from 9 to 11. feel free to reach out

[0:06:12] Voice 4: to me if you want to thank you

[0:06:14] Voice 8: thank you

[0:06:15] Voice 9: trustee yeah thank you uh yeah thanks we should cover up

[0:06:19] Voice 9: here those things like to say that the um press council held elections and uh was elected so

[0:06:26] Voice 9: let me say good news as lisa pointed out that kim's going to be our chair for a while and you

[0:06:31] Voice 9: I think it's always important to get that small island sort of outlook on the way things are run, but I'm sure Laura will do a great job.

[0:06:48] Voice 9: At that Trust Council meeting, we also approved the budget for everybody.

[0:06:54] Voice 9: I did not vote in favor of the budget.

[0:06:57] Voice 9: um i just think at this time of um you know what's happening out there in the real world um

[0:07:05] Voice 9: you know a good time for trust council to sort of look within itself and see whether there was

[0:07:12] Voice 9: ways that we could have uh um saved my hand and uh sort of tighten things up a bit but the budget

[0:07:19] Voice 9: was approved and uh and so we can move on from there also before a motion um to have the trust

[0:07:27] Voice 9: policy statement brought to trust council at um at the next trust council meeting in june i believe

[0:07:32] Voice 9: tim might seconded it and what we're looking to do at that point is get that document available

[0:07:39] Voice 9: approved and available to go out to public and first nations and sort of take that next big

[0:07:45] Voice 9: step with this document so really hoping that that happens at trust council in june um apart

[0:07:51] Voice 9: from that i think

[0:07:52] Voice 9: that's about it

[0:07:53] Voice 9: beth

[0:07:55] Voice 8: uh so next is the chair's report indeed uh trustee uh patrick

[0:08:00] Voice 8: from salt spring is the new chair she's going to do a great job i've worked with her of course lots

[0:08:04] Voice 8: on my role of chairs of the salt spring local trust committee i appreciate ben's comments also

[0:08:13] Voice 8: note that uh trustee maverly declined a nomination for chair himself um uh yes uh trust council did

[0:08:22] Voice 8: pass it as a budget for for the fiscal year there was um uh an omnibus uh set of uh proposals to

[0:08:33] Voice 8: reduce the budget and um unfortunately because of that format it it didn't pass and uh it may have

[0:08:43] Voice 8: been more successful it was broken down into individual pieces but the mover didn't choose

[0:08:48] Voice 8: to do that and because of our rules about reconsidering the same um subject for resolutions

[0:08:55] Voice 8: within the same meeting we weren't then able to go back and pull it apart so um

[0:09:01] Voice 6: procedurally that

[0:09:02] Voice 6: kind of maybe got in our way um do note that this year we were able to get some firm numbers uh

[0:09:09] Voice 6: from the province so we're able to show that on um on an average uh property across the island's

[0:09:17] Voice 6: trust area of around 850 000 value the uh

[0:09:22] Voice 8: the net increase is going to be about 32

[0:09:24] Voice 8: based on this budget so that brings i believe that brings up again for the this average of

[0:09:32] Voice 8: around 850 000 property brings up violence trust taxes to about 435 dollars a year

[0:09:40] Voice 8: so good to get those hard harder numbers from the province so we can actually see

[0:09:46] Voice 8: what the real impact is on the ground um the core elements of the strategic plan

[0:09:52] Voice 8: uh a draft strategic plan for 2025 to 2028 were approved um so that gets us into better shape for

[0:10:02] Voice 8: the work ahead of us at the end of this term and trying to set up next term

[0:10:05] Voice 8: in a good way and really integral to that is the is working towards a new model of strategic

[0:10:16] Voice 8: planning and combining strategic planning and and financial planning in the form of corporate

[0:10:22] Voice 8: planning so it's new territory for islands trust but i think by the end of this term we'll be in

[0:10:29] Voice 8: in good shape to sort of align those two streams of work

[0:10:33] Voice 8: so that the budgetary and the strategic items are aligned.

[0:10:39] Voice 8: And the Peace Affairs held a workshop

[0:10:43] Voice 8: with the trustees at Trust Council in an evening session

[0:10:47] Voice 8: where I think there was only eight of us attended.

[0:10:51] Voice 8: And certainly I think you've heard loud and clear

[0:10:53] Voice 8: from those that did attend that the process

[0:10:56] Voice 8: process by which the ferry advisory committees were disbanded was not good. There was a lot

[0:11:06] Voice 8: of frustration and upset on the islands around the way it was done, and in particular, the

[0:11:16] Voice 8: ending of that system that's been in place for around 30-odd years, and in the absence

[0:11:22] Voice 8: of what is going to replace it so that those big question marks don't help um when we're trying to

[0:11:30] Voice 8: discuss you know what's coming next is a big question mark so i think they heard us pretty

[0:11:35] Voice 8: loud and clear uh around that uh remains to be seen what what's going to come out of all of that

[0:11:42] Voice 8: as uh trustee cavarro mentioned the remaining remaining work on the draft policy statement

[0:11:47] Voice 8: has been transferred from committee of the whole to the trust programs committee with new members

[0:11:53] Voice 8: we did have a very productive uh first meeting and a i'm actually feeling pretty good that we're

[0:11:59] Voice 8: going to get to a point where we have a draft to consider at trust council in june um and this

[0:12:06] Voice 8: trustee maybe he said to then get it out to first nations and the public for comment the uh chief

[0:12:12] Voice 8: administrative officer performance evaluation evaluation committee uh continues to work on the

[0:12:17] Voice 8: the first six month probationary period items.

[0:12:20] Voice 8: That seems to be going well.

[0:12:22] Voice 8: Our new CO seems to be fitting in well,

[0:12:25] Voice 8: getting up to speed on the processes.

[0:12:28] Voice 8: And I know he's been spending lots of time with staff

[0:12:32] Voice 8: to do some in-house assessments there,

[0:12:36] Voice 8: but all in all things seems like it's a good fit

[0:12:40] Voice 8: and everyone seems to be pretty pleased so far.

[0:12:43] Voice 8: Also on the committee, the whole we're having,

[0:12:46] Voice 8: we've got plans to uh do a bit more of a deep dive on the 2022 governance report trust council

[0:12:54] Voice 8: as a whole has not um has not considered that report in its entirety uh also a review of a

[0:13:02] Voice 8: new code of conduct policy the current status of conduct is out of date and no longer meets

[0:13:09] Voice 8: with the sort of minimum standards based from the province.

[0:13:15] Voice 8: And the Committee of the Whole is a relatively new tool for Trust Council,

[0:13:18] Voice 8: and we're hoping that the use of it helps forward the ongoing work

[0:13:24] Voice 8: and prepares for discussion at a regular quarterly meeting

[0:13:26] Voice 8: so that we can get more done in a slightly more nimble fashion.

[0:13:31] Voice 8: And then finally, I'll just note that the Association of Vancouver Island Coast Communities Convention

[0:13:36] Voice 8: starts this weekend or well starts Friday in Nanaimo and myself and Vice-Chair Elliott and

[0:13:44] Voice 8: Chair Patrick and CEO Broney are all going to be there. I'm speaking on behalf of the

[0:13:52] Voice 8: local leaders for mental health ad hoc group that came out of UBCM last year.

[0:14:00] Voice 8: we're looking to uh to get the more broad uh uh support from the province for for local leaders

[0:14:09] Voice 8: and so that concludes my chair's report

[0:14:15] Voice 8: have no electoral area director with us today so next up is first nations report

[0:14:22] Voice 8: sir ken thomas

[0:14:25] Voice 7: i don't know

[0:14:25] Voice 8: if you have anything you want to share with us today

[0:14:28] Voice 7: not too much right now but um again i want to thank everyone for coming together and

[0:14:33] Voice 7: working

[0:14:34] Voice 8: together and communicating it's a you know it's a it's a big step forward as we are

[0:14:40] Voice 5: experiencing now compared to before so you know it's you know i'm just you know glad we're going

[0:14:48] Voice 5: this way and the communication is open enough and hopefully we keep going this way

[0:14:55] Voice 5: working together is is

[0:14:57] Voice 5: something that's important to all of us

[0:15:00] Voice 5: i just had to say that again but um just one request from uh

[0:15:10] Voice 5: send the uh

[0:15:15] Voice 7: schedule like the whole schedule for a year to myself and chief

[0:15:22] Voice 7: back so we can find

[0:15:24] Voice 5: the time to come over yeah

[0:15:26] Voice 11: i'll

[0:15:27] Voice 5: make sure that's done

[0:15:31] Voice 5: yeah i mean i

[0:15:37] Voice 9: think when we're doing those schedules too i think it would be great if we

[0:15:40] Voice 9: could schedule our our meetings there as well you know we should try and get to the island probably

[0:15:47] Voice 9: at least twice a year to sit down with um the chief and council and just go over anything

[0:15:56] Voice 9: I think

[0:15:56] Voice 7: that would be a good step, like I was saying, when you guys came over before

[0:16:06] Voice 8: it was the first time, I think, for

[0:16:10] Voice 8: us

[0:16:12] Voice 5: to come to our nation and have that communication and that back and forth, just to keep communication going.

[0:16:37] Voice 8: I think we all appreciated the invitation and the opportunity to come and be there with you.

[0:17:01] Voice 4: Would the LTC like to consider scheduling something? It would be an LTC meeting, but we'll move over to the LTC Council as a part of perhaps a special meeting there.

[0:17:16] Voice 4: No, the LTC Council special meeting will be one of your meetings.

[0:17:20] Voice 4: days. June, late June might be a good idea because that's when the new project is just starting, just the initial stages. We're going to be a draft by law, the LTC is just kind of still figuring out the key issues. Also, with the four major

[0:17:39] Voice 4: resumings right now um one is on the agenda today and the other three will be on the agenda

[0:17:44] Voice 4: so later in june might be a great time to provide updates to the council yeah

[0:17:52] Voice 8: that's great i know

[0:17:52] Voice 8: sounds good okay um next up we have the town hall of questions so remind everyone to

[0:18:05] Voice 8: um use respectful language speak to the issues not individuals and uh ideally what's on our agenda

[0:18:12] Voice 8: and secondarily what's uh what's within the jurisdiction of the local trust committee

[0:18:18] Voice 8: so i'll look for a show of hands if people would like to address the committee

[0:18:23] Voice 8: okay i'm going to start down on this end where i saw the first hand uh thank you chair tim uh i

[0:18:30] Voice 8: would like to acknowledge

[0:18:32] Voice 9: and thank my seven neighbors for stepping up and offering to serve

[0:18:37] Voice 9: on the advisory planning commission there's a couple of them here today with us and i know that

[0:18:44] their diverse backgrounds experience and their commitment to galliano will help the

[0:18:49] Voice 8: ltc in its

[0:18:51] Voice 8: land use deliberations especially with the ocp review renewal on the urban horizon

[0:18:57] Voice 8: And I have a couple of questions. I also have applications, but all for the lawyers for

[0:19:05] Voice 8: purpose.

[0:19:07] Voice 5: Thanks, Chair Beggerson. I'm Paula. I noticed that the ExaltSpringLTC voted to ask to be

[0:19:19] Voice 5: be included in the new provincial that

[0:19:23] Voice 8: requires a very common sense approach to STVRs, which

[0:19:28] Voice 8: is their region history, that they only be operated by residents of their islands.

[0:19:36] Voice 8: As you know from the Explantage project out the road, we're building some purpose-built

[0:19:40] Voice 7: housing over here, but

[0:19:42] Voice 8: more and more, we see non-resident, let's call them, Airbnb

[0:19:46] Voice 8: and B firms by not properly equipping them to SQBR is not right, which is a total cash flow.

[0:19:51] Voice 8: So I would like to request that this LTC, I know it's not on your agenda for today,

[0:19:55] Voice 8: but that you consider perhaps talking to your colleagues at the SSI LTC. They would have had

[0:20:01] Voice 8: some deep thought and research, I'm sure, before they made such a community-based decision.

[0:20:07] Voice 8: I'm requesting that you guys consider joining the SSI LTC in that request.

[0:20:17] Voice 8: yeah i am the chair of the salt spring local trust committee so i have a little bit of insight there

[0:20:25] Voice 8: certainly the there was there were meetings with the stakeholders the operators uh the

[0:20:30] Voice 8: chamber of commerce there and um there's a general consensus that opting into the principal residency

[0:20:36] Voice 8: requirements was appropriate for salt spring um there is a the deadline yearly is march 31st so

[0:20:46] Voice 8: that would be for galliano uh local trust committee we would have to you know have to

[0:20:52] Voice 8: get prepared to to consider whether that was appropriate next march but

[0:20:57] Voice 6: there's there's a

[0:20:57] Voice 6: timeline so you opt in uh or not on the 31st of

[0:21:01] Voice 8: march and then that becomes a a legal requirement

[0:21:05] Voice 8: in november of the same year and similarly you can choose to opt back out um one thing that's

[0:21:13] Voice 8: change of course is the uh the provincial registry for short-term vacation rentals which is not an

[0:21:19] Voice 6: opt

[0:21:20] Voice 8: -in situation it just applies broadly to all operators um there are some some considerations

[0:21:28] Voice 8: from the local trust committee

[0:21:30] Voice 6: kind of point of view is that means that the

[0:21:35] Voice 8: province then

[0:21:39] Voice 8: uh takes a role in um part of the enforcement action which can be a reduction of resources for

[0:21:48] Voice 8: for islands trust by law enforcement action so there are there are some sort of ancillary

[0:21:53] Voice 8: benefits um to the organization more broadly that that can take place but certainly that's a that's

[0:22:00] Voice 8: a community discussion um i think for any local trust committee to consider whether that's

[0:22:04] Voice 8: appropriate and uh we can certainly have and i encourage the local trustees of course to go out

[0:22:10] Voice 8: and see see what uh people think but certainly we could have that discussion here at this table

[0:22:17] Voice 8: um anytime between now and march uh 31st of next year follow up for the chair yeah um so you

[0:22:25] Voice 8: referenced that the threshold for you guys making that decision on salt spring was cohesion in the

[0:22:31] Voice 8: community around um business right so you reference the chamber just were there other

[0:22:38] Voice 8: specific kind of benchmarks that you guys were looking for before you proceed well

[0:22:42] Voice 6: i think that

[0:22:43] Voice 6: really um i think that really collapsed i'd have to find somewhere in here

[0:22:51] Voice 8: i've got a

[0:22:53] Voice 6: list of of of

[0:22:55] Voice 8: the groups that we heard of on salt spring but there was

[0:22:59] Voice 8: there was general agreement through those groups for those you know essentially maybe the operator

[0:23:05] Voice 8: groups that it was a good idea um so thank you yeah i could find you more information on that

[0:23:13] Voice 8: if you'd like later okay

[0:23:14] Voice 5: that'd be great okay

[0:23:15] Voice 8: and then i'm going to keep moving down i'll come back

[0:23:18] Voice 8: to you so where do i see the next hand along here sir i

[0:23:23] Voice 7: just wanted to ask uh there's some

[0:23:26] Voice 7: some references to their official community plan uh review um but the um report from the trust

[0:23:37] Voice 7: council budget that i saw um mentioned official there's funding for official community plan

[0:23:43] Voice 7: reviews for a number of a number of islands um but not for

[0:23:49] Voice 8: galliano i was wondering why that

[0:23:51] Voice 8: that one that was okay and i can i can before i pass it over to staff i can say that the um

[0:23:59] Voice 8: our the way our funding model works is that uh when uh a project is uh estimated to be around

[0:24:06] Voice 8: five thousand dollars or less it doesn't need to get approval from trust council and when it

[0:24:12] Voice 8: when it goes when it's expected to go over that then a business case is put together and travels

[0:24:18] Voice 8: through financial planning committee and eventually gets to trust council for approval

[0:24:22] Voice 8: so uh and staff would we have a a brief report on review here but i'll leave it to staff to speak

[0:24:28] Voice 8: around the finding issues absolutely

[0:24:31] Voice 4: thank you um just this the staff report that's in the agenda

[0:24:35] Voice 4: today it's really just going over some basic information on what um an official community

[0:24:41] Voice 4: plan review may look like different timelines so so there are questions to the ltc um that

[0:24:46] Voice 4: staff need prior to even initiating the project charter but if this does um if this is something

[0:24:52] Voice 4: ltc wants to pursue would be included in the 2026 and 2027 budget so not this fiscal year

[0:25:00] Voice 4: but next fiscal year so

[0:25:02] Voice 7: what you're saying is the other

[0:25:04] Voice 8: islands already did that work

[0:25:06] Voice 8: that's right and in most cases they had that going out or ready to go out business being

[0:25:14] Voice 8: ready to go out by september so um again if this local trust committee wants to think about that

[0:25:21] Voice 8: it's a good idea to maybe by our july meeting to have given staff some direction on business

[0:25:27] Voice 8: cases so that it gets into the the pipeline of the of the financial committee as early as possible

[0:25:32] Voice 8: i think that's that's helpful certainly that's what we did on on liscadia and salt spring and

[0:25:41] Voice 7: um

[0:25:42] Voice 8: thank you

[0:25:44] Voice 4: um i just have a couple of comments and and a couple of questions regarding the

[0:25:50] Voice 4: fomberg application and um forgive me if any of these have been covered in a previous meeting

[0:25:56] Voice 4: so um this appears to be quite a significant land use change um for this property with potential

[0:26:06] Voice 4: impacts on the surrounding neighbourhood in terms of quiet, water and traffic.

[0:26:13] Voice 4: And I was just looking at many of the letters that are on the website in reference to the application

[0:26:22] Voice 4: and see that many of them comment on the likeability and the contribution of the owner to the community.

[0:26:30] Voice 4: That is, of course, irrelevant to consideration of the application, but I know that's a common

[0:26:40] Voice 4: thread in our small community when it comes to things like this.

[0:26:44] Voice 4: So I was just

[0:26:46] Voice 4: wondering if consideration has been given to referring this application to

[0:26:52] Voice 4: the Advisory Planning Committee.

[0:26:54] Voice 4: And full disclosure, I've just become a member of that committee, but I'm not aware of very many applications over the last, maybe, if any, over the last year going to that committee for consideration.

[0:27:12] Voice 4: Just sort of another look at the application, I guess.

[0:27:16] Voice 4: I don't know at what point applications get referred to the advisory planning committee.

[0:27:23] Voice 4: I'm just kind of learning about that, but so that is just sort of one question to you.

[0:27:32] Voice 4: And the other is just to do with the staff report in this particular agenda package and

[0:27:41] Voice 4: the directive checklist.

[0:27:43] Voice 4: And the staff report says it has been determined that bylaw 297 for this application is not

[0:27:52] Voice 4: contrary or variance with the trust policy statement but as this bylaw would

[0:27:59] Voice 4: resound the property to permit among other things a cidery and a winery as well as

[0:28:08] Voice 4: apparently a current use of an orchard all of which would require significant

[0:28:14] Voice 4: significant amounts of water. I'm puzzled as to why Directed 4.4.2, Freshwater Resources in the Directed Checklist, has been marked as non-applicable.

[0:28:28] Voice 4: I'm not aware of any comprehensive water reports for this property as yet, so that would be my other question.

[0:28:38] Voice 4: And I also didn't see the CRD water folks listed on the referral list for this application.

[0:28:48] Voice 4: And this property is very near a community water system that supports about 37 households

[0:28:55] Voice 4: and a water system that has some water issues.

[0:28:59] Voice 4: So I was wondering, I guess that's the third question, why they aren't listed there.

[0:29:06] Voice 4: The CRD is for building permits or building code or something like that, but not in direct

[0:29:14] Voice 4: regard to water resources in that area, and it is a CRD water system.

[0:29:23] Voice 4: Three questions.

[0:29:25] Voice 11: Do you want to

[0:29:25] Voice 11: take some of those?

[0:29:26] Voice 11: Yeah, go on.

[0:29:26] Voice 11: I'm making notes.

[0:29:28] Voice 4: So the LTC has the ability to refer any type of application to the Advisory Planning Commission,

[0:29:36] Voice 4: and that would be done by a motion.

[0:29:40] Voice 4: That is included as an option for the LTC's consideration

[0:29:44] Voice 4: in the staff report.

[0:29:45] Voice 4: If the LTC does want to send the rezoning application

[0:29:49] Voice 4: to the APC, staff always encourage

[0:29:53] Voice 4: having really specific questions you want the APC to answer

[0:29:58] Voice 4: or specific things that you want them to...

[0:30:00] Voice 4: to contemplate for review and report back on in terms of the audience trust policy statement 4.4.2

[0:30:08] Voice 4: if the ltc believes that that that should be a check mark or that it does not comply that's

[0:30:15] Voice 4: something that the ltc can change as well um but it was staff's assessment that the bylaw as it's

[0:30:23] Voice 4: written right now doesn't increase density or intensity of land use in areas that are having

[0:30:31] Voice 4: problems with quality or quantity of supply of fresh water but certainly that's something that

[0:30:39] Voice 4: there will be a groundwater for water management plan as part of this

[0:30:45] Voice 4: application so that is something that will ensure that any of those new uses

[0:30:51] Voice 4: with the quality and quantity of fresh water. The CRD, the 6 Ellison Water District, yes

[0:31:02] Voice 4: thank you, it was added on. So I did create the referral list already and I added that

[0:31:10] Voice 4: to the referral list. I did update the staff report that's online as well to include that.

[0:31:16] Voice 4: So the LTC, when looking at this agency list, if there's anything else the LTC thinks is missing, please let us know and we can add it on.

[0:31:26] Voice 4: And even if there's something that comes up over the next month or two, we can also send another referral. But that has been added.

[0:31:35] Can

[0:31:36] Voice 8: you work out here? I'll go back to this end.

[0:31:39] Voice 8: Okay. A couple of picky questions both staff can answer. But is there a precedent for such a multi-stage application

[0:31:51] Voice 5: spread over a number of years?

[0:31:53] Voice 5: And

[0:31:56] Voice 8: because things can change over time, people can change over time, economies can change

[0:32:06] Voice 8: over time, et cetera.

[0:32:08] Voice 8: So with this in mind, is there any public benefit to then having the applicant, if the

[0:32:19] Voice 8: The overall application to come back to the LTC or firm somehow that they are ready to proceed with the next stage, just to keep the community informed and the members of the LTC informed.

[0:32:43] Voice 4: So just to clarify, you're wondering if there's a mechanism in which the property owner can notify.

[0:32:51] Voice 4: I'm

[0:32:51] Voice 8: just asking, is there any public good

[0:32:53] Voice 5: that they have, benefit to have that bill?

[0:32:55] Voice 4: That would be more of a question for the LTC.

[0:33:02] Voice 4: It hasn't been done, you know, when an application is approved.

[0:33:07] Voice 4: So if our land use by-law or CEP by-law is adopted, it's the property owner or applicant

[0:33:13] Voice 4: must abide by that new by-law in any section 219 covenants or anything that's been a condition.

[0:33:20] Voice 4: So there hasn't been any requirements for communication after the fact, and I don't

[0:33:29] Voice 4: know if that's something the LTC would take on.

[0:33:32] Voice 4: right? I don't know how that would ever be monitored. In

[0:33:36] Voice 4: terms of the question, is there a community benefit? I mean, the

[0:33:40] Voice 4: one benefit of Galleon Island is that it's a close knit

[0:33:43] Voice 4: community. So generally when something's going on, people do

[0:33:46] Voice 4: know about it. But perhaps it's something in goodwill of the

[0:33:51] Voice 4: applicant or the property owner to put, you know, they could

[0:33:55] Voice 4: even let neighbors know. But I'd imagine with this property, you

[0:33:59] Voice 4: would see what's going on yeah

[0:34:04] Voice 9: i would think it would be extremely difficult to monitor

[0:34:09] Voice 9: that i

[0:34:10] Voice 9: mean i

[0:34:10] Voice 9: think once you the application is in process and you start to put the conditions on

[0:34:15] Voice 9: the application um you sort of those conditions are meant to sort of follow through over the year

[0:34:21] Voice 9: so you know as long as the outcome is up the conditions within that within the rezoning

[0:34:26] Voice 9: application um we're all good if they don't believe me in this community we'll know about

[0:34:31] Voice 9: it pretty quickly or who are sitting here we'll know about it pretty quickly and uh you know then

[0:34:37] Voice 9: that's sort of the communication but it'd be so difficult to think for the future in that sense

[0:34:43] Voice 9: you sort of do the conditions based on the information you have to pay for it

[0:34:50] Voice 8: And the second question I have relates to the staff use of the word agencies for bylaw

[0:35:01] Voice 8: equipment listed on each of the meeting package.

[0:35:06] Voice 8: I just wonder if the Coast Salish Peoples of Galliano and the Georgeson family are agencies

[0:35:16] Voice 8: in the same respect that the CRE, Island Health, Moti, etc. are. You might want to change that

[0:35:30] Voice 8: overall entity to, rather than agencies for referral, entities for referral. Just a comment

[0:35:40] Voice 8: and a suggestion. And the other one listed with that, in that area, the WSENIC Leadership

[0:35:48] Voice 8: Council. It's been my experience through CRD activities that the WSENIC Leadership Council's

[0:35:57] Voice 8: interest does not encompass Galliana. It seems for various parks and recreation

[0:36:06] Voice 9: and other

[0:36:06] Voice 9: their activities ends at mean island.

[0:36:10] Voice 9: So in terms of possibly streamlining the approvals

[0:36:14] Voice 9: process, should the staff ask the Senate,

[0:36:21] Voice 9: do they want to be included on Galliano referrals

[0:36:26] Voice 8: in the future?

[0:36:27] Voice 8: And are they not already included

[0:36:30] Voice 8: by First Nations membership list, which is on page

[0:36:35] Voice 9: 26

[0:36:38] Voice 9: really

[0:36:42] Voice 4: good question and staff are working with different nations and also a first nation

[0:36:49] Voice 4: non-profits or a group to figure out how they would like to engage how they'd like information

[0:36:58] Voice 4: what type of information and also the establishment of some protocol agreements so that's something

[0:37:04] Voice 4: that's in words and it's a really good question it's something that staff is aware of unfortunately

[0:37:09] Voice 4: it takes time um so currently we do include it on our list until such time if the ltc wants it removed

[0:37:16] Voice 4: and we can do that but we're waiting for further discussions with the senate to your ship council

[0:37:21] Voice 4: to determine exactly um where and what type of information they like from which what do you see

[0:37:27] Voice 4: yeah

[0:37:28] Voice 8: a little further to that um uh trustee gabriel uh brought emotions trust council

[0:37:34] Voice 8: um i think i might have been able to second anyway certainly certainly a support um which

[0:37:42] Voice 8: is exactly as flannery stockdale is saying is reaching out and and recognizing that the

[0:37:49] Voice 8: provincially mandated referral process is both outdated and inadequate um and so there are

[0:37:56] Voice 8: ongoing discussions with nations about how we can approve the the process so it's not just the

[0:38:05] Voice 8: province's rubber stamp but something that actually works with the nations and and so

[0:38:11] Voice 8: i think that planner stockville is alluded alluding to of course it's uh we've uh there's

[0:38:16] Voice 8: around 34 ish nations in the island's trust area so it's a it's a fairly big piece of work as far

[0:38:23] Voice 8: as as doing the individual reach out and and and so it is taking some time to um to complete that

[0:38:31] Voice 8: project but it is it has been ongoing um for i guess about a year and a half getting close to

[0:38:38] Voice 8: two years of course we would impatiently want to you know love it to to to be quick but that's not

[0:38:43] Voice 8: not the reality um but i think it is positive trustee cabrón's motion is a positive step to

[0:38:51] Voice 8: to reach out to nations and and recognize that the provincial model is

[0:38:57] Voice 8: it's simply not good enough and and islands trust is committed to doing better so that's

[0:39:03] Voice 8: that is in the works did you have something yeah

[0:39:06] Voice 9: it was sort of along those lines and then there's

[0:39:09] Voice 9: there is work being done to streamline that process but um so there's a lot of things to

[0:39:14] Voice 9: consider and and you know you also have to consider that relationship between the nations

[0:39:19] Voice 9: as well right between the ascension and the penelope as well and what that looks like so

[0:39:25] Voice 9: So I agree with you.

[0:39:26] Voice 9: I think the list is outdated.

[0:39:28] Voice 9: I think that the way they do it is outdated.

[0:39:31] Voice 9: I've been vocal on that, you know, and so, yeah,

[0:39:35] Voice 9: hopefully it was good to see Lisa's motion come forward and try and work on

[0:39:40] Voice 9: that process to make these sort of referrals and relationships work in a

[0:39:45] Voice 9: better way.

[0:39:49] Voice 4: Sorry to raise my hand

[0:39:50] Voice 8: for a second time.

[0:39:50] Voice 8: I'm sure you'll be working during the meeting,

[0:39:52] Voice 8: but for those of us who are still working full-time,

[0:39:55] Voice 8: the only way to be here is to kind of mind my work and be here so apologies for anybody

[0:40:00] Voice 8: um it does make me think i'm so glad to hear the trust council focus um

[0:40:07] Voice 4: primary relationships with

[0:40:08] Voice 10: melvin and talking to

[0:40:09] Voice 8: our other conversations and indigenous neighbors it does make me think

[0:40:13] Voice 8: about the structure of the apc and reading through the review that we have a system where

[0:40:19] Voice 8: where one-third of the participants on our APCs can be non-resident, and I would love

[0:40:25] Voice 8: to see that get shifted to Indigenous and First Nations neighbours, as opposed to a

[0:40:32] Voice 8: third of our capacity to hand out staff reports and be eroded by those who don't do it,

[0:40:39] Voice 8: who don't complain, who don't joke.

[0:40:41] Voice 8: So I'm just going to raise my hands and joke

[0:40:43] Voice 5: and say

[0:40:44] Voice 8: that I would love to see those

[0:40:51] Voice 5: yeah

[0:40:52] Voice 9: i mean i couldn't agree more and i mean it's not just the apc

[0:40:56] Voice 9: yeah sitting here absolutely we made a pretty clear indication to the penelope

[0:41:01] Voice 9: at the meeting on penelope that is the goal that's the work towards is to have everybody

[0:41:08] Voice 9: sitting at the same table to have meetings and getting real-time input

[0:41:14] Voice 8: yeah yeah yeah and there's

[0:41:17] Voice 8: uh i'll come to you here in a second let's just say there's also work being done um with staff

[0:41:22] Voice 8: in the ministry around uh declaration of rights within this people's act um specifically section

[0:41:29] Voice 8: seven as i'm sure you're all aware islands trusts have the legislative um ability to change our

[0:41:37] Voice 8: a model in a way that's inclusive but the province does and as the um as the province

[0:41:47] Voice 8: we are frauding the province to um to reassess and in fact there's been two two letters from

[0:41:56] Voice 8: the previous trust council and from this trust council to the province uh for a review of the

[0:42:01] Voice 8: on the stressed act and part of that is about implementing dripa in the legislation so if the

[0:42:08] Voice 8: province can be convinced to move on that um there's certainly there's openness within the

[0:42:16] Voice 8: organization for that kind of change i think the piece that we're missing at this point in terms of

[0:42:22] Voice 8: really getting the province on side this is my own personal perspective is that in our um in our

[0:42:30] Voice 8: are zest for this work what we really need to be doing is we really need to be um bringing the

[0:42:35] Voice 8: first nations all of them as as many as we can along with us to the province and and and having

[0:42:43] Voice 8: their voices amplify the voices of trust council and saying we support um the desire of trust

[0:42:50] Voice 8: council for the province to open up and look at the act with with the goal of of implementing

[0:42:57] Voice 8: being crippled within the honest trust act that's a piece that we haven't maybe had capacity fully

[0:43:04] Voice 8: to do at this point but i think if we're looking towards that becoming a successful goal um having

[0:43:12] Voice 8: the having the voices of the first nations amplified the desires of trust stated desires

[0:43:17] Voice 8: of trust council i think that might be effective in a way that trust council on its own may not be

[0:43:24] Voice 8: so i i see that as as outstanding work it's it's again it's a huge project um in terms of the you

[0:43:33] Voice 8: know the geographical spread of the trust area from saturn all the way up to denman island and

[0:43:38] Voice 8: and the 35 36 nations um then whose territories the island's trust uh area is so it's big but

[0:43:48] Voice 8: i to me i think that if we could accomplish a significant portion of of sort of all jumping

[0:43:55] Voice 8: in the canoe and rowing together um on that project then the province would have to listen

[0:44:01] Voice 8: in a way that they don't necessarily have to listen to to just the will of trust councils

[0:44:07] Voice 8: big project and wordy from my end sorry go ahead ken

[0:44:33] Voice 5: I was there and all I could say was I can't speak

[0:44:43] Voice 7: or something that I don't know if I can talk about our port territory, but now the port territory.

[0:44:49] Voice 7: And I

[0:44:50] Voice 5: think I did mention that we need more input than the local nations.

[0:44:59] Voice 7: You know, in other conversations with, you know, say, signers on the couch, you know, they recognize our territory, as we recognize their territory

[0:45:12] Voice 5: on behalf of, say, signers, because I'm not sure about their art sites or, you know, those are the things that are really important to speak about.

[0:45:26] Voice 5: So I would give a name, you know, so trying to bridge that communication gap between

[0:45:37] Voice 5: nations is ongoing, you know, not everybody knows about it, but, you know, things will

[0:45:45] Voice 5: come up and I'd be talking to someone from California, well, that's your territory, you

[0:45:52] Voice 5: know, and, you know, it's recognized in the monster nation as well, you know, so this

[0:46:02] Voice 5: But, you know,

[0:46:03] Voice 7: in

[0:46:04] Voice 9: the future, I would like this to be more representation.

[0:46:08] Voice 9: When

[0:46:08] Voice 5: Joe is here, that's great.

[0:46:09] Voice 5: And he has knowledge of it.

[0:46:17] Voice 5: I'm pretty sure he refers to somebody from the area.

[0:46:26] Voice 5: I just wanted to, you know, shed a bit of light on that.

[0:46:30] Voice 5: That's where there's communication.

[0:46:40] Voice 8: Okay, anyone else have any town hall questions?

[0:46:44] Voice 8: All right, let's move along then.

[0:46:48] Voice 8: so our next section is um we have the minutes of february 11th for adoption

[0:46:55] Voice 8: on

[0:46:56] Voice 5: page

[0:47:03] Voice 4: six of the agenda which is page three of the minute at the very top instead of patricia

[0:47:18] Voice 4: Trisha Wake Park.

[0:47:19] Voice 4: Trisha Wake Park.

[0:47:24] Voice 4: Trisha?

[0:47:25] Voice 4: Trisha?

[0:47:28] Voice 4: Trisha.

[0:47:29] Voice 4: Wait a minute.

[0:47:32] Voice 4: Trisha.

[0:47:32] Voice 4: Trisha.

[0:47:33] Voice 4: Okay.

[0:47:35] Voice 4: Go with the map.

[0:47:36] Voice 4: Trisha.

[0:47:41] Voice 8: Any other amendments?

[0:47:44] Voice 9: No.

[0:47:45] Voice 8: Okay.

[0:47:45] Voice 8: i can i think by general consent we'll adopt um the minutes february 11th as amended then

[0:47:54] Voice 8: and then that brings us to the follow-up action list starting on page 13 and i'll turn it over

[0:48:00] Voice 8: to planners doctor thank

[0:48:02] Voice 4: you chair um to begin on page 13 of the agenda which is page one at the

[0:48:07] Voice 4: follow-up action list um in turn in terms of district law at 85 and 86 both their resumings

[0:48:15] Voice 4: staff and the applicants and the LTC

[0:48:18] Voice 4: received a letter from

[0:48:19] Voice 4: Chief

[0:48:21] Voice 4: Chief Pam Jack

[0:48:23] Voice 4: at Connecticut

[0:48:25] Voice 4: confirming that there's an

[0:48:28] Voice 4: agreement in the current site plans

[0:48:30] Voice 4: so that's wonderful and that

[0:48:32] Voice 4: signals to the applicant

[0:48:33] Voice 4: that they can move forward actually

[0:48:36] Voice 4: with submitting their subdivision application

[0:48:38] Voice 4: and staff can now

[0:48:40] Voice 4: start putting together the draft

[0:48:42] Voice 4: follow-ups so the intent

[0:48:44] Voice 4: The intent there is that staff will be bringing forward both those results to the June LTC meeting for the LTC to review the draft bylaws.

[0:48:56] Voice 4: The next item on the same page, lower down, it's this release of a covenant. And I notice it's been on here for a long time.

[0:49:05] Voice 4: So my goal is to get that completed by

[0:49:08] Voice 11: the June agenda. So I put

[0:49:09] Voice 4: two stars next to that.

[0:49:11] that.

[0:49:12] Voice 4: So staff know that note that on page 15 of the agenda

[0:49:18] Voice 4: versus with regards to Crystal Mountain, I have not spoke with

[0:49:23] Voice 4: a planner, Brad Smith in regards to the status of Crystal

[0:49:27] Voice 4: Mountain. So I will ensure that there is one at the June

[0:49:31] Voice 4: meeting. And we also

[0:49:33] Voice 4: have to get together to discuss that other

[0:49:36] Voice 4: there's other two motions in terms of that land transfer application so that's still on our items

[0:49:45] Voice 4: to follow up with the ltc page 16 of the agenda uh the rockefeller rezoning uh that will be moving

[0:49:55] Voice 4: to completion with the intent for uh notice of first reading to be done at the june 3rd ltc

[0:50:03] Voice 4: meeting and i believe there and that's it actually so if the ltc has any questions

[0:50:17] Voice 8: we're gonna have that community information meeting on the rothfeller at the june meeting

[0:50:24] Voice 8: that's right and then uh i want some of my other bit oh uh so the meeting with um

[0:50:32] Voice 8: yeah 85 and 86 the meetings with moti have happened and they haven't

[0:50:37] Voice 1: yet but now that we

[0:50:38] Voice 4: have

[0:50:39] Voice 8: okay but you've scheduled them we will yeah now

[0:50:41] Voice 4: that we have the final site plan we can

[0:50:44] Voice 4: go forward with those referrals because we didn't want to send anything out

[0:50:48] Voice 4: and then the site plan can completely change based on comments from communication okay okay

[0:50:54] Voice 8: absolutely fair i was just wondering what so the done means the scheduling not the meetings

[0:51:01] Voice 8: That's right.

[0:51:01] Voice 8: I have a question for the chair.

[0:51:03] Do we have one site plan?

[0:51:06] Voice 4: Yes.

[0:51:07] Voice 4: Well, so the NELA 2, really what staff was waiting for was confirmation of the NELA 2

[0:51:14] Voice 4: and the NELA 3 for post-site plans.

[0:51:16] Voice 4: Yes.

[0:51:17] Voice 4: So staff are going to review the site plans again, put together the draft file, and come

[0:51:23] Voice 4: back with a staff report.

[0:51:25] Voice 5: And

[0:51:25] Voice 4: staff will also, if there's any issues with the site plan, if there was the LTC should

[0:51:29] Voice 4: should consider we'll highlight those in the staff report yeah thank you

[0:51:33] Voice 8: and then i guess

[0:51:34] Voice 8: the other bit is the parks and rec conversation absolutely right

[0:51:41] Voice 8: okay

[0:51:43] Voice 5: Just

[0:51:43] Voice 7: about the last subject we were talking about, we're planning a site visit, whether or not it

[0:51:52] Voice 9: belongs to Bowling, so

[0:51:55] Voice 5: that's going to be great for the disability, myself, I'm a cultural person as well.

[0:52:15] Voice 8: Okay, anything else on the thought, actualist?

[0:52:19] Voice 8: no um yeah i noted that we've got correspondence from chief jack but i think we're right on time

[0:52:27] Voice 8: for this um this agenda package we have a meeting break scheduled but i think we should maybe

[0:52:34] Voice 8: consider doing some more of the work before we do that

[0:52:37] Voice 5: so

[0:52:37] Voice 8: i propose we get into the applications and

[0:52:40] Voice 8: referrals starting with the GL sub Taylor starting on page 18. I believe this is Planner Belcher who

[0:52:53] Voice 8: I see has just joined us online so I'll turn it over to you sir.

[0:52:57] Voice 1: Thank you. Yeah so this is a

[0:52:59] Voice 1: frontage exemption request which is a condition of final subdivision approval for file number GL

[0:53:07] Voice 1: DL sub 2023.1, which is a two lot conventional subdivision application for 172 Burrill Road,

[0:53:16] Voice 1: which the application was originally made in 2023. So the proposed layout would require the

[0:53:23] Voice 1: local trust committee to waive section 512 of the local government act, which mandates that

[0:53:29] Voice 1: 10% of the perimeter of all lots to be to front on a highway and proposed lot B in the subdivision

[0:53:39] Voice 1: application would not meet that 10% minimum and instead would equal about 6% or 26.7 meter

[0:53:47] Voice 1: frontage. There's no minimum frontage required by the Galliano Island Land Use Bylaw.

[0:53:55] Voice 1: Additionally, on the site, a riparian development permit was required as a condition for subdivision

[0:54:02] Voice 1: approval, which has recently been approved and issued, as there's no new development

[0:54:08] Voice 1: to be proposed on the property.

[0:54:11] Voice 1: The inability to meet the 10% perimeter frontage requirement should not represent a barrier

[0:54:18] Voice 1: to subdivision since lot b already has a frontage distance of 26.7 meters and the shape of the lot

[0:54:25] Voice 1: meets the depth to width ratio requirement in section 13.6 of the land use bylaw granting an

[0:54:32] Voice 1: exemption from the frontage requirement of the local government act does not relieve the property

[0:54:37] Voice 1: owners from complying with all ministry of transportation and infrastructure subdivision

[0:54:44] Voice 1: requirements and all bylaws and policies of the islands trust so staff would recommend that the

[0:54:50] Voice 1: galliano island local trust committee exempt lot b of the proposed subdivision gl sub 2023.1 for 172

[0:55:00] Voice 1: burrell road from the 10 minimum frontage requirement under section 512 of the local

[0:55:08] Voice 1: government act thanks okay

[0:55:11] Voice 8: thank you and do we know if we have any representation from the

[0:55:15] Voice 8: applicant don't believe

[0:55:17] Voice 1: so he was unable to attend um but i could answer any questions if you have

[0:55:24] Voice 1: them okay

[0:55:25] Voice 6: great i just always like to check um so trustees any questions for us uh

[0:55:31] Voice 4: not really i am

[0:55:33] Voice 4: I'm supportive of the exemption.

[0:55:36] Voice 4: As stated, I think that the, yeah,

[0:55:41] Voice 1: while B

[0:55:41] Voice 4: meets the depth and width ratio

[0:55:44] Voice 4: in the Lanny's fly law, as provides adequate access,

[0:55:48] Voice 4: the applicant is pursuing a return and default permit.

[0:55:55] Voice 4: Yeah, I'm supportive.

[0:55:56] Voice 4: I don't think this is intended to set any type of precedent.

[0:55:59] Voice 4: It's sort of a site-specific kind

[0:56:01] Voice 5: of exemption.

[0:56:02] Voice 4: exemption uh so yeah i'd be in favor of supporting dv reputation yeah

[0:56:09] Voice 9: i mean i'm supportive but i

[0:56:11] Voice 9: think um you know you know this isn't setting trust in for anything i think one of the things

[0:56:18] Voice 9: that stands out especially in the southern world violence is it's one thing you'll notice is there's

[0:56:23] Voice 9: a lack of what you would call fee simple subdivisions taking place for a very specific

[0:56:27] Voice 9: and that's the cost of building roads and you know the barrier to subdivisions generally highways and

[0:56:37] Voice 9: the cost of building that road i mean you look at galliano i mean when was the last time an actual

[0:56:42] Voice 9: fee simple subdivision was was created it's just mostly now you see uh corporate subdivisions

[0:56:48] Voice 9: because you just can't afford the process right so it's one of those things that we're sort of

[0:56:53] Voice 9: you know the only way we're going to look at subdivisions is to have these sort of one-offs

[0:56:57] Voice 9: that people will look at their property and see whether they get an exemption on that

[0:57:01] Voice 9: on the highways because this straight frankly if they had to meet the requirement couldn't supply

[0:57:05] Voice 9: couldn't afford it right and so uh yeah i'm in favor of supporting the obligation here okay

[0:57:16] Voice 8: um well generally

[0:57:18] Voice 8: if it's at the will of the local trust me generally if you wanted to speak

[0:57:22] Voice 8: to applications the best time to do that is at town hall but i'll look to the local trust

[0:57:27] Voice 8: community if you'd like to allow a question thank you if it was 10 percent short of the requirement

[0:57:35] Voice 9: why didn't

[0:57:36] Voice 5: they just swing the subdivision along the road to road

[0:57:43] Voice 9: practice

[0:57:43] Voice 5: because

[0:57:45] Voice 9: there's a big

[0:57:45] Voice 9: lot of

[0:57:45] Voice 8: this because of the right areas on that um that

[0:57:49] Voice 4: would be my assessment

[0:57:50] Voice 8: yeah they're quite

[0:57:52] Voice 4: be strained through that yeah

[0:57:54] Voice 9: yeah i thought it was a little bit you would look at both not only

[0:57:59] Voice 9: the recurring zone but where the water is located too right where the walls are located and so you

[0:58:04] Voice 9: know you're trying your best to certainly figure it out right um yeah and if they had to try to

[0:58:11] Voice 9: meet the requirement you need a lot that would meet the requirement i think that's how it worked

[0:58:16] Voice 9: right so yeah it's just trying to find that that's where they they could still have good

[0:58:22] Voice 9: driveway access i think it's relevant actually you

[0:58:26] Voice 8: can prepare it yeah all right trustee so

[0:58:31] Voice 8: someone like to advance yeah i

[0:58:34] Voice 4: move that the galena local trust committee exempt block b

[0:58:37] Voice 4: from proposed subdivision gl sub 2023.1 172 burl road from the 10 minimum frontage requirement

[0:58:50] Voice 4: under section 312 sorry 512 of the local government act

[0:58:55] Voice 8: i'll second it any further discussion

[0:59:00] Voice 8: seeing none i'll call the question all those in favor and that carries thank you

[0:59:06] Voice 8: thank you planner belcher

[0:59:08] Voice 8: um so next up uh starting on page 22 we have the

[0:59:28] Voice 8: Thank

[0:59:29] Voice 4: you very much. So to refresh our memories at the last February LTC meeting, the LTC

[0:59:39] Voice 4: gave direction to staff to draft bylaws for this rezoning application. So this staff report

[0:59:45] Voice 4: presents both draft bylaws, which I'll go over and highlight some areas for the ITC to consider as well.

[1:00:00] Voice 4: with the Island's Trust Policy Statement. It is attached and staff have done a review and there

[1:00:05] Voice 4: are two motions stating that the draft bylaws are in compliance with the Island's Trust Policy

[1:00:11] Voice 4: Statement. But as discussed earlier, there was a reference to policy 4.2. So if the LTC wants to,

[1:00:20] Voice 4: rather than have that as not applicable, you can make a draft motion stating that that policy is

[1:00:30] Voice 4: satisfied or in compliance or if there's concerns that the LTC has with that policy because but no

[1:00:37] Voice 4: it's not in compliance so just wanted to mention that the LTC can make those changes as well

[1:00:43] Voice 4: so I'm going to first talk about the land use bylaw as mentioned or as mentioned previously

[1:00:51] Voice 4: the subject property is currently zoned rule two and it will be it's proposed to be rezoned to a

[1:00:58] Voice 4: site-specific rule two zone which will include the uses of a contractor yard storage and sale

[1:01:07] Voice 4: of gravel soil abrogates sawmilling painting and manufacturing of wood products cidery binary

[1:01:15] Voice 4: including production storage and sales staff have actually didn't add a contractor workshop

[1:01:23] Voice 4: workshop to the draft bylaw, thinking that it would be included or satisfied by the contractor

[1:01:30] Voice 4: yard definition, but after discussions with the applicant, we're actually staff is recommending

[1:01:36] Voice 4: putting contractor workshop into the draft bylaw. So there is a motion, a draft motion

[1:01:44] Voice 4: for the LTC's consideration. If the LTC does give first reading, staff recommend that that draft

[1:01:53] Voice 4: final be amended first to include contractor workshop to the draft final before the first

[1:02:00] Voice 4: reading is given. The draft final also has some regulations added to restrict the height

[1:02:07] Voice 4: of building structures associated with those proposed new uses, land screening requirements,

[1:02:15] Voice 4: the addition of parking and sign regulations, and also the addition of a contract with our

[1:02:21] Voice 4: definition, and this is a standard definition that we use in other land use bylaws.

[1:02:26] Voice 4: In terms of further regulating hours of operation, number of vehicles that are permitted on site,

[1:02:35] Voice 4: that would be addressed through a section 219 covenant.

[1:02:39] Voice 4: So there's a list there on page 25 of the agenda

[1:02:43] Voice 4: of items that staff intend to discuss with the applicant

[1:02:47] Voice 4: to include those conditions in the draft covenant.

[1:02:52] Voice 4: So how a draft covenant generally works is

[1:02:54] Voice 4: the LTC can review the list.

[1:02:57] Voice 4: If the LTC feels that something should be included,

[1:03:00] Voice 4: you can do that at this meeting.

[1:03:03] Voice 4: Staff will then go back to the applicant

[1:03:05] Voice 4: and the applicant and staff will work together on putting together that draft covenant.

[1:03:09] Voice 4: And then that draft covenant will come back to the LTC to review, and if the LTC wishes to make any changes, the LTC can do that.

[1:03:19] Voice 4: Also, the water management plan, staff have been in discussion about the requirements for that,

[1:03:24] Voice 4: and the applicant is waiting to hear back from staff on particulars of that water management plan.

[1:03:30] Voice 4: So the holdup is not from the applicant, it is on staff's end.

[1:03:33] Voice 4: So I'm sure that that is set by the applicant.

[1:03:37] Voice 4: And there's also a discussion or a consideration to the restriction of the rental of the side

[1:03:43] Voice 4: re-inquiry for special or private events.

[1:03:45] Voice 4: It's not something that staff has had a discussion with the applicant about, but that's something

[1:03:49] Voice 4: in the future the applicant and the NTC and staff may want to have a discussion about

[1:03:53] Voice 4: in terms of permitting it, or that's something the applicant would like to add specifically

[1:03:59] Voice 4: specifically to plan just by law or by the section in terms of the official community plan and then

[1:04:10] Voice 4: the official community plan the rural designation the principal uses right now in residential

[1:04:19] Voice 4: agriculture and i'm just going to turn if the ltc could take a look at page 24 of the agenda

[1:04:24] Voice 4: Back in 2011, the rural designation, the only principal use was residential.

[1:04:34] Voice 4: But during the OCP venue, agriculture was added as a primary use or principal use as well.

[1:04:42] Voice 4: And staff believe that policy E should have also been amended at that time.

[1:04:47] Voice 4: Policy E states that within this designation a number of different zones may be applied

[1:04:54] Voice 4: allowing different levels of uses accessory to residential uses.

[1:04:58] Voice 4: So staff have put together, drafted an OCP amendments by-law that's attached to the staff report

[1:05:04] that would include residential agriculture

[1:05:08] Voice 4: uses to Policy E.

[1:05:10] Voice 4: It's important that we do that or the LTC adopts that bylaw as the applicant right now

[1:05:18] Voice 4: has no current intention of constructing a dwelling unit on that property.

[1:05:26] Voice 4: The current use is agriculture.

[1:05:28] Voice 4: So in order for the land use bylaw, the draft land use bylaw, to be in compliance with the

[1:05:34] Voice 4: DOCP, policy E would have to be amended to include that reference to agriculture uses.

[1:05:44] Voice 4: Now, I'm just going to quickly go over the statutory requirements.

[1:05:50] Voice 4: Staff are recommending kind of separating the two processes for draft bylaw 296, which

[1:05:58] Voice 4: is the OCP in my new bylaw and bylaw 297 which is when I use bylaw and the reason for that is 296

[1:06:08] Voice 4: the OCP bylaw will need to be approved by the minister and that unfortunately has taken

[1:06:14] Voice 4: quite a few months right now I think it's we're sitting at about six months

[1:06:19] Voice 4: so staff are proposing for the LTC to give direction to give first reading to the OCP bylaw

[1:06:26] Voice 4: and also to give direction to hold a CIM public hearing for that by-law,

[1:06:31] Voice 4: potentially scheduling that for the July meeting, just so the OCP by-law can move along quicker,

[1:06:38] Voice 4: and that gives time for the LTC and staff and the applicant to work on the land use by-law process.

[1:06:47] Voice 4: If the OCP by-law is adopted and first reading isn't given to the land use by-law yet,

[1:06:55] Voice 4: the LTC does have the option to waive or permit, start waiving, is getting notice of first

[1:07:01] Voice 4: waiving for by-law 297. Or a public hearing can also be held for the land use by-law 297.

[1:07:10] Voice 4: That decision doesn't have to be made yet. Really, staff just want to ensure that the

[1:07:15] Voice 4: LTC agrees that the OCP amending by-law can continue forward and we can schedule a CIM

[1:07:22] Voice 4: on a public hearing. First patients have been listed there. Those have been confirmed with

[1:07:29] Voice 4: the province. Those are the nations of interest. Worked out in Rhode Island LTC. Agencies and

[1:07:37] Voice 4: entities have been listed in the staff report as well. Thank you for the mention of the

[1:07:42] Voice 4: CRD 6 Allison Water District. That will be also included in the referral list. So there

[1:07:49] Voice 4: are a number of recommendations for the LTC to consider. I know it's a long list. That's on page

[1:07:56] Voice 4: 22. So the first two are to give first reading to both bylaws. But as mentioned, if the LTC is

[1:08:05] Voice 4: considering to give a first reading to the land use bylaw, an amendment would be required for us

[1:08:12] Voice 4: to add a contractor workshop to that bylaw and I'm happy to give a draft motion for the LTC's

[1:08:17] Voice 4: consideration. Number three and four are stating that draft

[1:08:23] Voice 4: bylaws are not contrary to or at variance with the Islands Trust

[1:08:27] Voice 4: Policy Statement. At that time in the LTC, we can make

[1:08:30] Voice 4: amendments to C4.4.2. The fifth one there is for the LTC to

[1:08:37] Voice 4: press back to schedule a public hearing and community

[1:08:40] Voice 4: information meeting for the OCP bylaw number 296. And the last

[1:08:46] Voice 4: one there is number six is giving direction from the ltc to staff to start working on that drop 219

[1:08:53] Voice 4: coverage that would restrict the uses further add conditions and add any recommendations if there

[1:09:00] Voice 4: are from the water management plan and as i mentioned before too there are also other

[1:09:06] Voice 4: alternatives the ltc may consider those are on the very last page of the stack report

[1:09:11] Voice 4: The first one is to hold public hearing for both of those, request further information,

[1:09:18] Voice 4: or the LTC feels to send or defer the application which we value in the LPPC.

[1:09:25] Voice 4: And the fourth is if the LTC believes that the application should proceed no further,

[1:09:32] Voice 4: there is a motion to deny the application.

[1:09:35] Voice 4: So I'm going to leave it there.

[1:09:36] Voice 4: I'm happy to answer any questions the LTC may have, and the applicant is here as well.

[1:09:41] Voice 4: up okay

[1:09:42] Voice 8: first i'll see if you wanted to add anything before we start asking questions i

[1:09:47] Voice 8: don't think so okay uh questions uh

[1:09:51] Voice 4: at this point it does seem to be a lot of we got a lot of ground

[1:09:54] Voice 4: cover still before we get there so i'm generally a favor what we're seeing here i think that with

[1:10:01] Voice 4: the draft proposed motion for amending item two or uh motion two to add the contract here

[1:10:08] Voice 4: i think seems reasonable i think we need to see the covenant started we need to see the

[1:10:14] Voice 4: water management plan before we start making um um you know decisions we need more information

[1:10:22] Voice 4: and i think by doing that by the first reason we're able to move up to that with certainty

[1:10:31] Voice 9: yeah i would agree at least i think we're far enough along here that um we could take the next

[1:10:36] Voice 9: step we're not making any big decisions here there's still a lot of information we're going to

[1:10:39] Voice 9: get so far um i i would i'd also like to see that motion for the shop site as well yeah the draft

[1:10:49] Voice 4: but

[1:10:50] Voice 8: hearing if if you guys want i can make that one i have a question uh for planter stockfield

[1:10:57] Voice 8: them um in terms of the um the sort of missing amendment to the e as you pointed out the

[1:11:06] Voice 8: destination of the uh uh agriculture um

[1:11:13] Voice 6: so i i understand that for the land use file we want to

[1:11:20] Voice 8: we want to mn to add the contractor workshop and then advance that that bylaw as as amended

[1:11:28] Voice 8: and so what about the the e section do we need to do something with that no

[1:11:34] Voice 4: so that's already

[1:11:34] Voice 4: included in the draft uh ocp okay

[1:11:37] Voice 8: it's already that's great yeah yes

[1:11:39] Voice 4: it's the

[1:11:40] Voice 4: only amendment to

[1:11:41] Voice 4: the official community plan is a menu okay so that's

[1:11:45] Voice 8: contained in the first in the first

[1:11:48] Voice 8: recommendation so we don't need to okay just wanted to double check on that okay so um

[1:11:58] Voice 8: So if the trustee is ready, one of you

[1:12:00] Voice 9: can make the proposed motion for the shop section that includes the shop section.

[1:12:06] Voice 9: So

[1:12:07] Voice 6: if I'm not here, I'm happy

[1:12:09] Voice 8: to make the motion for ease of process here,

[1:12:12] Voice 9: since I can

[1:12:14] Voice 9: just read it.

[1:12:17] Voice 11: um

[1:12:18] Voice 9: well i'll make a motion that the galliano island local trust committee bylaw number 296

[1:12:23] Voice 9: cited as the galliano island official community plan bylaw number 108 1995 amendment number three

[1:12:30] Voice 9: 2024 be read for the first time well set by trustee

[1:12:35] Voice 8: gabriel um any discussion not seeing

[1:12:42] Voice 8: any alcohol questions all those in favor all right and then i will know that the galliano island

[1:12:51] Voice 8: local trust committee bylaw number 297 cited as galliano land use bylaw number 127 1999

[1:12:59] Voice 8: amendment number three 2024 be amended by adding contractor workshop as a permitted use

[1:13:09] Voice 8: and seconded by trustee maberly any discussion i'm

[1:13:14] Voice 4: just writing it down to make sure i got it

[1:13:16] Voice 4: okay

[1:13:17] Voice 8: all right all in favor then and that carries as well and then so the second

[1:13:27] Voice 8: motion and package needs to have as amended

[1:13:36] Voice 4: I move that the Galleon Local Trust Committee has reviewed the Island Trust Policy Statement

[1:13:42] Voice 4: Directive.

[1:13:44] Voice 4: That's number two.

[1:13:45] Voice 8: Number two.

[1:13:45] Voice 8: We need number two as amended.

[1:13:48] Voice 4: Right.

[1:13:49] Voice 8: In the recommendations.

[1:13:51] Voice 8: Oh, I thought you made the motion.

[1:13:52] Voice 4: Oh, I thought you made the motion.

[1:13:53] Voice 4: Now we're going back to, we've amended the draft by-law, and now the LTC wants to give

[1:13:58] Voice 4: first reading to the draft by-law.

[1:14:00] Voice 4: Yeah.

[1:14:00] Voice 4: So it's this one that we

[1:14:01] Voice 4: just add as amended to the end.

[1:14:03] Voice 4: Oh, okay.

[1:14:04] Voice 4: Very good.

[1:14:04] Voice 4: I have it on my phone.

[1:14:07] Voice 4: I move the Galliano Local Trust Committee.

[1:14:21] Voice 4: Yeah, I move the Galliano Local Trust Committee

[1:14:25] Voice 4: bylaw number 297,

[1:14:29] Voice 4: cited as Galliano Land Use Bylaw number 2127,

[1:14:34] Voice 4: 1999, amendment number 3,

[1:14:37] Voice 4: 2024, be read for the first time as amended.

[1:14:40] Voice 4: So

[1:14:41] Voice 8: moved and seconded by Trustee Baeberle. Any discussion? Seeing any, I'll call the

[1:14:48] Voice 8: question. All those in favor? That carries.

[1:14:53] Voice 9: I move that the Galliano Island Local Trust

[1:14:55] Voice 9: Committee has reviewed the Islands Trust Policy Statement Directives Only Checklist and determined

[1:15:00] Voice 9: that bylaw number 296, cited as Galliano Island Official Committee Plan bylaw number

[1:15:05] Voice 9: 108 1995 amendment number three 2024 is not contrary or to a contrary to or at variance

[1:15:14] Voice 9: with the

[1:15:15] Voice 8: honest trust policy so seconded by trustee gabrielle any discussion uh only that

[1:15:23] Voice 4: i had heard the comments in the town hall and i'll take note of them as we move forward yeah

[1:15:28] Voice 8: okay uh there's nothing further i'll call the question all those in favor

[1:15:34] Voice 8: carries to number five number four four

[1:15:43] Voice 4: i'm sorry oh

[1:15:44] Voice 8: sorry oh yes yes four yes

[1:15:48] Voice 4: uh i've moved that the galea local trust committee has reviewed the adams trust policy statement

[1:15:53] Voice 4: directors only checks checklist and determined that bylaw 297 cited as galliano land use bylaw

[1:16:00] Voice 4: number 127, 1999.

[1:16:03] Voice 4: Amendment number

[1:16:04] Voice 4: 3, 2004

[1:16:05] Voice 4: is not contrary to or at

[1:16:08] Voice 4: variance with the

[1:16:09] Voice 4: Iowa's Trust Policy Statement.

[1:16:12] Voice 8: Great. Moved.

[1:16:15] Voice 8: Seconded by Trustee Maberly.

[1:16:17] Voice 8: Any discussion?

[1:16:19] Voice 8: I'll call the question. All those in favor?

[1:16:22] Voice 11: That carries as well.

[1:16:24] Voice 8: And now, number five.

[1:16:26] Voice 9: I move that the Yelena

[1:16:28] Voice 9: Press Committee request staff to schedule

[1:16:30] Voice 9: a public hearing and any information

[1:16:32] Voice 9: application meeting for bylaw number 296,

[1:16:35] Voice 9: cited as Galleon Island Official Community Plan

[1:16:37] Voice 9: bylaw number 108, 1995, amendment number three, 2024.

[1:16:43] Voice 8: I move, seconded by Senator Groh.

[1:16:45] Voice 8: Any discussion?

[1:16:47] Voice 5: No.

[1:16:47] Voice 8: Seeing any, I'll call the question.

[1:16:49] Voice 8: All those in favor?

[1:16:51] Voice 8: It carries.

[1:16:54] Voice 4: And I move that Galleon Local Trust Committee

[1:16:57] Voice 4: request the covenant under section 219

[1:16:59] Voice 4: 9th of the land title act for the application for plrz 2004 0003 as a condition of adopting bylaw

[1:17:11] Voice 4: number 297 that includes conditions and restrictions for the proposed uses and

[1:17:17] Voice 4: recommendations from the water management plan

[1:17:21] Voice 8: seconded by trustee maberly any further discussion

[1:17:26] Voice 8: I'm not seeing any. I'll call the question. All those in favor?

[1:17:33] Voice 8: And that carries as well. Okay, anything further on this plan to talk to?

[1:17:40] Voice 4: So in terms of next steps, the community information meeting and public hearing for proposed by-law 296,

[1:17:49] Voice 4: which is a very efficient community plan, will be scheduled for the July meeting, July 8.

[1:17:55] Voice 4: All in terms of next steps as well, our staff will be sending referrals to locations, agencies and also the staff will continue to work with the applicant in terms of drafting the section 219 covenant and also putting together the progress of the law.

[1:18:14] Voice 4: We hope to have further information for the LTC to consider at the July meeting.

[1:18:19] Voice 4: meeting thank

[1:18:21] Voice 8: you all right i'm going to move along so starting on page

[1:18:29] Voice 8: um 39 we have a referral from salt spring island local trust committee

[1:18:40] Voice 8: and anything about our stock bill that you want to say about this one um

[1:18:48] Voice 4: no i don't have much

[1:18:49] Voice 4: I did take a quick look, and there's nothing that really jumped out at me to identify as a concern for the LNO LTC.

[1:19:00] Voice 5: Okay.

[1:19:02] Voice 4: I'm going to bring it to, it looks like they're just adding accessory users. Retail sales, retail services accessories, residential unit accessory, or physical use. It sounds pretty straightforward.

[1:19:18] Voice 4: Interest unaffected.

[1:19:19] Voice 5: Interest unaffected.

[1:19:20] Voice 4: absolutely

[1:19:21] Voice 8: okay so i will just take a stab at it for the heck of it i move that the galliano island

[1:19:30] Voice 8: local trust committee uh responds to the sultry island local trust committee referral for proposed

[1:19:38] Voice 8: bylaw number five four three as interests unaffected affected by trustee neighborly

[1:19:48] Voice 8: any discussion i think

[1:19:50] Voice 8: i'll call the question all those in favor and that carries okay now

[1:19:57] Voice 8: we have a little bit of left to do i'm going to propose that we take 10 minutes

[1:20:03] Voice 8: and so let's try and get back here for 10 30 or 15 10 10 all

[1:20:10] Voice 8: right so let's let's recess until 2 30

[1:31:26] Voice 8: and projects and first up we have associated island regulations review project staff report

[1:31:46] Voice 8: starting on page 47 turn it over to planners doctor this staff

[1:31:57] Voice 4: report is presenting a draft

[1:31:59] Voice 4: project charter of the associated islands regulations that should say review not preview

[1:32:07] Voice 4: review, according to page 47 of the agenda, of the Associate Island Circulation Review

[1:32:13] Voice 4: Project at the February 11th meeting, the LTC gave direction to add this as a minor

[1:32:21] Voice 4: project and also to report back within draft of the end charter.

[1:32:28] Voice 4: So just to go over the project charter which is attached to the staff report, the purpose

[1:32:37] Voice 4: The purpose is to review and amend regulations in the land use bylaw that would be applicable to associated islands and also the boat access only properties.

[1:32:51] Voice 4: In terms of the deliverable would be an amendment to the land use bylaw.

[1:32:58] Voice 4: There may also be an amendment to the Official Community Plan if the land use law needs to be, or sorry, if there needs to be something illegal in the policy, it's not intended

[1:33:13] Voice 4: that there will be an amendment to the Official Community Plan, but we just wanted to note that that might be in scope.

[1:33:21] Voice 4: I notice here that it does say out of scope, and I may have to change that.

[1:33:25] Voice 4: It should say major amendments to the OCP would be out of scope,

[1:33:29] Voice 4: but minor changes to enable the regulations may be required.

[1:33:35] Voice 4: I don't think there should be.

[1:33:37] Voice 4: In terms of in scope, potentially a referral to the Gallia and Rhode Island

[1:33:42] Voice 4: Advisory Planning Commission staff would encourage special meetings

[1:33:48] Voice 4: to hold in-person and online community information meetings, First Nation engagement, also specific

[1:33:57] Voice 4: engagement with property owners that own on the associated islands, and also access-owning

[1:34:03] Voice 4: properties.

[1:34:04] Voice 4: And as mentioned, a review of the current land use regulations.

[1:34:08] Voice 4: So in terms of the timeline, and that's on page 51 of the agenda, I'm just going to go

[1:34:15] Voice 4: over by the entity till deliverable and wild stones so for april this year the ltc has the

[1:34:23] Voice 4: option to endorse the project charter if that is done early engagement letters will be sent

[1:34:29] Voice 4: to first nations as well as property alarms for the associated islands and boat access only

[1:34:36] Voice 4: property owners just to give not only nations nations a heads up but also those of property

[1:34:42] Voice 4: be affected. The hope is for staff to return with a staff report at the June meeting, going over the

[1:34:50] Voice 4: highlights of what possible amendments may be considered, as well as direction to work forward

[1:34:59] Voice 4: to the gathering of the APC, and also to give direction to hold an electronic special meeting

[1:35:08] Voice 4: meeting, specifically for those property owners on the associated islands and those for boat

[1:35:16] Voice 4: access only. Staff recommend that to be an electronic meeting, in terms it would be easier

[1:35:21] Voice 4: rather than having all the property owners travel. Of course, any community members can

[1:35:28] Voice 4: join the electronic special meeting, it's not just for property owners of the associated

[1:35:33] Voice 4: state islands and boat access only. Then in the fall, approximately the October meeting staff

[1:35:41] Voice 4: will come back summarizing their comments from the APC. Also any comments from those targeted

[1:35:48] Voice 4: property owners, and then hope the hopes would be for the LTC to give direction to staff to

[1:35:55] Voice 4: track the bylaw with the intention of bringing that bylaw back at the December meeting of this

[1:36:00] Voice 4: year after that staff have kind of outlined uh final referrals any further engagement with the

[1:36:09] Voice 4: public uh cims also first second and third reading and ec approval pilot adoption would happen in

[1:36:16] Voice 4: early 2026 potentially the project to finish summer of 2026 and that would wrap up the ltc's

[1:36:26] Voice 4: term so really the goal is to try to wrap up this project um summer of next year

[1:36:33] Voice 4: so the project charter is there for the ltc's consideration in terms also of the budget staff

[1:36:41] Voice 4: have included um budgeting for the apc referral and public engagement which would include that

[1:36:49] Voice 4: that are mail out to property owners for the board of access only and associate islands

[1:36:54] Voice 4: and also for the community information needs and there's also in the budget money for the

[1:37:00] Voice 4: either public hearing or notice of first reading so that's

[1:37:06] Voice 5: really all that the

[1:37:07] Voice 4: other that staff

[1:37:08] Voice 4: have to highlight the ltc um the recommendation of the staff report is for the ltc to endorse

[1:37:16] Voice 4: the project charter for this project, and if the LTC does that, the next steps would

[1:37:22] Voice 4: be for staff to report back highlighting some further engagement options and topics for

[1:37:30] Voice 4: the LTC to review in this project to report back to the general LTC meeting, which is

[1:37:35] Voice 4: going to be a very busy meeting for the LTC.

[1:37:39] And I'll leave it at that.

[1:37:42] Voice 5: Okay, just these questions and comments.

[1:37:45] Voice 5: I

[1:37:48] Voice 4: really appreciate the work that went into this, to turn around on.

[1:37:52] Voice 4: I think this is good work for us to proceed with.

[1:37:55] Voice 4: I really don't have any other things to add at this time.

[1:37:58] Voice 4: I agree with the budget.

[1:38:00] Voice 4: I agree with the scope.

[1:38:02] Voice 4: And with the business case, I'd like to see this move forward.

[1:38:06] Voice 9: Yeah, I'm with you.

[1:38:07] Voice 9: I mean, we've sort of committed to this.

[1:38:09] Voice 9: And I think getting this out now, I think there's some value.

[1:38:14] Voice 9: I thought we had already, at some point, sent a draft of the Gambier Island, what was it, Gambier, by-laws to

[1:38:23] Voice 9: the APC.

[1:38:25] Voice 9: We didn't get comment.

[1:38:26] Voice 9: The APC has changed since then.

[1:38:28] Voice 9: So I think there's some good, we should be refreshing that process.

[1:38:33] Voice 9: But yeah, we're ready to move forward with this project.

[1:38:36] Voice 9: Looking forward to it.

[1:38:38] Voice 9: So I'll

[1:38:39] Voice 6: make a motion.

[1:38:40] Voice 8: Sorry, just a moment, though, because I think I heard Planner Stockdale say that,

[1:38:45] Voice 8: should move the minor amendment to the ocp to the in scope section is that right yeah

[1:38:52] Voice 4: so what we can

[1:38:52] Voice 4: do is um in the outer scope the reference to minor should be major so the outer scope would be any

[1:39:01] Voice 4: type of major amendments to the ocp um down the road if staff believe that there is going to be

[1:39:09] Voice 4: a minor amendment to the ocp then at that point we can

[1:39:13] Voice 5: add it in and

[1:39:14] Voice 4: that may have to change the

[1:39:15] Voice 4: timeline i'm not anticipating anything so for

[1:39:19] Voice 8: today if we just pass the motion to change minor

[1:39:23] Voice 8: to major in the out of scope that would cover it and then we would approve as amended yeah

[1:39:30] Voice 4: that's good because uh this could move into something bigger

[1:39:33] Voice 4: yes kind of sideways okay we

[1:39:36] Voice 9: did set the pram it was pretty tight yeah

[1:39:38] Voice 4: right yeah another out of

[1:39:40] Voice 4: scope as mentioned there is any amendments to the land use bylaw not related to the associated

[1:39:46] Voice 4: islands so we're not going to start looking at short-term occasional right or any other

[1:39:51] Voice 4: that's really the focus on the associated islands or access only properties yeah

[1:39:56] Voice 8: okay and then in

[1:39:58] Voice 8: terms of resending um the uh the gambier bylaws that uh to the apc do you need a resolution for

[1:40:08] Voice 8: that so

[1:40:09] Voice 4: um uh the intention is that the g meeting is requesting that from the lgc for a motion then

[1:40:16] Voice 4: okay not required today

[1:40:18] Voice 4: not required today to stop some recent background information

[1:40:21] Voice 4: on the project and that staff report would be really helpful from the apc so that will be

[1:40:27] Voice 4: yeah okay well the apc will be hopefully receiving something very soon

[1:40:33] Voice 4: all

[1:40:34] Voice 8: right so if trustees are ready then i would make a motion um around the wording in the out

[1:40:42] Voice 8: of scope section that's acceptable okay so i moved it to galliano island local trust committee

[1:40:49] Voice 8: uh request staff to amend the project charter by changing minor to major on the out of scope

[1:40:59] Voice 8: section uh relating to amendments the official galliano island official community plan

[1:41:09] Voice 5: second second

[1:41:11] Voice 8: and i'll just check with lisa millard and make sure she's captured that yes

[1:41:17] Voice 3: chair peterson i have that absolutely

[1:41:19] Voice 8: so it's moving second any discussion

[1:41:22] Voice 8: all those in favor and that carries and then we can go over to the main motion as amended

[1:41:31] Voice 8: i moved

[1:41:33] Voice 4: the galliano local trust committee sorry

[1:41:36] Voice 4: i'm so sorry i'm on the wrong page here

[1:41:43] Voice 4: all right yes timely that the gallia local trust committee endorsed the attached project charter

[1:41:51] Voice 4: for associated islands regulations review project as amended

[1:41:56] Voice 8: seconded any discussion

[1:42:01] Voice 8: is that that i've certainly heard uh from the uh some members of the live on the associate

[1:42:08] Voice 8: Adam tonight that we have to see this so that all in favor all in favor all right

[1:42:21] Voice 8: so next starting on page 52 we have an additional staff report the planners

[1:42:30] Voice 8: to talk still on ocp thank

[1:42:34] Voice 4: you i'm going to present this staff report on behalf of regional

[1:42:37] Voice 4: planning manager robert patima as he is unable to attend space meeting at the february ltc meeting

[1:42:45] Voice 4: a very busy one for the ltc the ltc made a request of staff care of options and recommendations

[1:42:54] Voice 4: for the preparation of the business case for an official community plan review.

[1:43:02] Voice 4: As discussed at the last meeting, an OCP review would be a major project

[1:43:08] Voice 4: under the Trust Council policy, and that requires a business case approved

[1:43:13] Voice 4: by the Trust Council for the next fiscal year, so for 2026 to 2027.

[1:43:19] Voice 4: A major project is generally assigned to the regional planning team, so it wouldn't necessarily be assigned to your LTC planner, but the LTC planner would assist with that project.

[1:43:35] Voice 4: So on page 53 of the staff report, the discussion is broken down into the project scope, the review process, and the budget.

[1:43:45] Voice 4: it and really the major discussion or decision making the LTC needs to make today is if the

[1:43:55] Voice 4: official community plan review should involve a complete review of the OCP so the entire thing

[1:44:02] Voice 4: between the entire OCP or a targeted review if you're just wanting to target certain sections

[1:44:09] Voice 4: like the forestry section or groundwater or whatever you may just have certain sections

[1:44:16] Voice 4: the LTC may want to target. So the difference between a complete review versus a targeted review

[1:44:23] Voice 4: would mean difference in budgeting and also timeline. If you're doing a complete OCP review

[1:44:29] Voice 4: the budget would obviously be greater and the timeline can be longer compared to a targeted

[1:44:35] Voice 4: review so you don't have to make a decision on what you want to target perhaps a discussion around

[1:44:41] Voice 4: yes we think a full review is needed or no maybe it's okay just to have certain aspects of those

[1:44:48] Voice 4: so that's really what we're looking for in this decision from the ltc because that will shape as

[1:44:55] Voice 4: i mentioned not only the budget and timeline but also the review process um i did want to mention

[1:45:03] Voice 4: a state or a staff report that the last time an OCP was reviewed was back in 2011, so we're

[1:45:11] Voice 4: almost creeping up to 15 years, and generally 15 years is a good time for a local trust

[1:45:16] Voice 4: community to come back and review their OCP.

[1:45:19] Voice 4: The previous OCP review was broken down into certain pieces.

[1:45:25] Voice 4: There were specific advisory planning commissions organized that focused on certain topics in

[1:45:33] Voice 4: the OCP and they reported back on the process which helped to prepare the draft bylaws and

[1:45:40] Voice 4: that's something that the LTC may consider. This project was born is also doing a similar type of

[1:45:48] Voice 4: engagement process with the LTCs but also to include Aboriginal First Nations as well. So the

[1:45:55] Voice 4: consultation with First Nations will be a major part of this project and that's included in the

[1:46:01] Voice 4: the draft work plan that Robert and Gina has put together.

[1:46:07] Voice 4: I don't need it there.

[1:46:09] Voice 4: As mentioned, really what staff is looking for now

[1:46:12] Voice 4: is some discussion from the LTC

[1:46:15] Voice 4: if this should be a targeted review or a full review.

[1:46:18] Voice 4: And if the LTC believes they can make a decision on that today,

[1:46:24] Voice 4: a recommendation as such would be helpful.

[1:46:27] Voice 4: And then staff can report back with a draft business case

[1:46:30] Voice 4: support plan so that we have an idea about that as well great

[1:46:37] Voice 5: trustees

[1:46:41] Voice 4: well i would be in favor of a targeted ocp review i think we can do a broad consultation

[1:46:51] Voice 4: um yeah i don't want to straight depart the topics but i think uh um considering the timeline

[1:46:57] Voice 4: and the recent updates in the water sustainability project and all those updates that have happened

[1:47:07] Voice 4: um works that we've undertaken the last two let this turn last time and i think our target would

[1:47:13] Voice 4: be what was wild yeah

[1:47:18] Voice 9: i totally agree and i think i'm going to be looking at most of the

[1:47:22] Voice 9: processes i've done a full review those are still ongoing and most of them are over 10 years old

[1:47:28] Voice 9: so i mean the problem by doing a full review is you're actually

[1:47:33] Voice 9: you're not getting anything done right uh so i think for me one of our steps is to say definitely

[1:47:40] Voice 9: do a targeted review i have certain ideas myself even when you look at the housing section or

[1:47:46] Voice 9: things like that right but i think um if that's the recommendation is a targeted review then we

[1:47:54] Voice 9: need to reach out to the abc and and see for their input into the you know what we what we should

[1:48:01] Voice 9: target sort of do a bit of community engagement with it with what we should target and um and go

[1:48:08] Voice 9: from there right but i mean i think we need to keep this in into a fairly um sort of concise

[1:48:13] Voice 9: confined process otherwise it's just going to drag on forever and and nothing will ever be

[1:48:19] Voice 9: accomplished and i mean that's been proven out when you look at ocp reviews that have been ongoing

[1:48:24] Voice 9: as it's brought up in the community all earlier about you know when you see it in the budget

[1:48:29] Voice 9: it's been in the budget for over 10 years i mean just a huge amount of time and money i think

[1:48:37] Voice 9: um and even frustration when you talk to trustees from those islands where those ocps

[1:48:42] Voice 9: you know they think they should have been completed and now the process has gone on for so

[1:48:46] Voice 9: long that they're having to go back and start a lot of the initial stages over again because

[1:48:52] Voice 9: of course consultation working with first nations has completely changed the landscape around what

[1:48:57] Voice 9: an ocp should look like so um so yeah let's you know as far as i can see let's go with a targeted

[1:49:03] Voice 9: review and then let's start to get feedback from the public on on what sections of the ocp they

[1:49:09] Voice 9: would like to see us target yep

[1:49:11] Voice 4: i agree this opportunity we want to strengthen our um

[1:49:15] Voice 4: communications with first nations around us as well absolutely yeah

[1:49:19] Voice 4: this is the time yeah

[1:49:21] Voice 9: i mean i think this is a great time if we can pick some you know some really good targets

[1:49:30] Voice 9: yeah it's just to have those um meetings on island as well and have some more wholesome

[1:49:36] Voice 9: some discussions around that as well. So that would be great.

[1:49:39] Voice 9: Yeah. All

[1:49:39] Voice 9: right. But yeah.

[1:49:44] Voice 9: I have the

[1:49:46] Voice 4: whole thing mapped out already.

[1:49:54] Voice 4: But yeah, this is community. Yeah.

[1:50:03] Voice 8: to help

[1:50:05] Voice 4: the ltc along a draft motion could be that that the galliano island trust trust committee

[1:50:12] Voice 4: request staff to report back with a draft business case and work plan for a targeted ocp review

[1:50:21] Voice 4: you yeah that

[1:50:27] Voice 8: sounds

[1:50:30] Voice 4: good

[1:50:34] Voice 8: and we can we can check in with um with our administrator elise miller

[1:50:39] Voice 8: and see if she managed to capture those words chair

[1:50:43] Voice 3: peterson what i have is that the galliano

[1:50:45] Voice 3: island local trust committee requests staff to report back with a draft business case and plan

[1:50:50] Voice 3: for a targeted official community plan review.

[1:50:54] Voice 8: Fabulous.

[1:50:55] Voice 8: And just before we move that,

[1:50:59] Voice 8: I know that it's listed that in the process here

[1:51:04] Voice 8: that the local trust committee can include funding

[1:51:06] Voice 8: in the business budget case.

[1:51:09] Voice 8: And the business case budget request

[1:51:11] Voice 8: to provide some capacity funding to interested nations.

[1:51:14] Voice 8: And I would certainly support that.

[1:51:16] Voice 8: We all recognize that when we're able

[1:51:20] Voice 8: to provide that funding and enable nations to uh participate um that might have difficulty

[1:51:27] Voice 8: doing so otherwise i think it's really important when we're able to do that um to make sure that

[1:51:33] Voice 8: we do that um and so just check with planners stock bill uh i'm seeing odds around the table

[1:51:40] Voice 8: here but uh can we just take it you've heard that and yes in

[1:51:44] Voice 8: any business case yes

[1:51:46] Voice 4: and i believe

[1:51:47] Voice 4: I believe our PM, Kajima, did mention that in the review process, but I'll make sure,

[1:51:54] Voice 4: as long as we're sure that's in the minutes, that we do build it in to have capacity funding for First Nations as part of the targeted OCD review.

[1:52:03] you.

[1:52:05] Voice 4: Something I've been hearing quite frequently at committee meetings and in the media is

[1:52:11] Voice 4: the phrase, nothing about us with all of us. And I think that's really important that we

[1:52:16] Voice 4: use that as a local trustee.

[1:52:20] Voice 8: I absolutely agree. Okay, so then I will take it as moved

[1:52:31] Voice 8: seconded by trustee bro um let's let the guy on ltc request staff to report backdrop business case

[1:52:39] Voice 8: work plan for targeted ocp review seconded by trustee maberly and any further discussion

[1:52:47] Voice 8: i'll call the question then all those in favor and that carries thank you very much

[1:52:56] Voice 8: okay anything further on this before we move along

[1:53:05] Voice 9: It's going to be interesting to get feedback, not only feedback from this island, but from

[1:53:15] Voice 9: Connecticut Island as well.

[1:53:18] Voice 9: I've been

[1:53:19] Voice 4: following the Cabriola OCP review, and they did a visioning discussion, and that

[1:53:25] Voice 4: And that looked really fruitful when the community came together and discussed what they see for Gabriel in the next 10 years.

[1:53:36] Voice 4: Very worthwhile.

[1:53:39] Voice 8: Yeah, I think those kinds of engagement activities, I think, help inform the process right from the get-go instead of coming along the way that input starts.

[1:53:58] Voice 8: off the bat i think it's more helpful uh thank you

[1:54:02] Voice 4: i just want to note for those community members

[1:54:06] Voice 4: here and those that are listening um this does not mean that the cp review project is starting now

[1:54:13] Voice 4: this is just for staff to put together a business case which is different than a project charter

[1:54:19] Voice 4: business case putting together a budget that would go to trust council to include in their budget for

[1:54:26] Voice 4: of 2026-2027. I do recommend community members to take a look at the staff report that's included

[1:54:35] Voice 4: in this agenda because it does give a draft timeline or work plan and the intention is for

[1:54:41] Voice 4: the project to start or initiate early next year. I just want to make sure that's clear. It's not

[1:54:48] Voice 4: starting right now. We're just laying the foundation in the hopes the project will start

[1:54:52] Voice 4: time march next year

[1:54:55] Voice 8: okay pending approval by trust council that's right yeah okay then um

[1:55:03] Voice 8: moving along on page 58 we have the active projects report and it looks like we could

[1:55:12] Voice 8: probably move uh remove um the first item there is that correct um

[1:55:22] Voice 4: i let's leave it on right now

[1:55:25] Voice 4: because we haven't heard back from the minister yet um you never know they may come back with

[1:55:31] Voice 4: questions so let's leave it on just to be on the safe side all

[1:55:35] Voice 8: right and then on page uh 59 we

[1:55:40] Voice 8: have the future projects report of course some of that may inform a uh ocp review and then starting

[1:55:50] Voice 8: on page 60 we have the open applications report i'll look this out to see if there's anything

[1:55:54] Voice 8: think you need to update us on today i've

[1:55:57] Voice 4: provided updates for the four major rezonings i have been

[1:56:01] Voice 4: working on in crystal mountain unfortunately i do not have an update today but i hope to have one

[1:56:06] Voice 4: in june ltc meeting i do have an update on the rezoning application for affordable housing from

[1:56:13] Voice 4: george harris that rezoning application has closed and he has reapplied for a temporary use permit

[1:56:21] Voice 4: it or that news so staff do hope to bring that forward to the illiteracy's consideration

[1:56:32] Voice 8: trustees any other questions on the applications report uh

[1:56:37] Voice 5: nope i didn't know i

[1:56:39] Voice 8: just want to

[1:56:40] Voice 8: mention that uh the new format i find personally i find a little bit easier to read

[1:56:47] Voice 8: and um and i'm liking that that's uh that is the case it's uh seems a little bit simpler to

[1:56:54] Voice 8: go through and digest um okay so next we have the uh the trustee local expense report

[1:57:04] Voice 8: dated january of 2025 86 anything on that from anyone no no all right uh adopted policies and

[1:57:15] Voice 8: standing resolutions uh starting on page 67 anything there um local trust committee web

[1:57:23] Voice 8: page any comments

[1:57:25] Voice 5: no comments and

[1:57:29] Voice 8: we have the island's trust conservancy report uh from february

[1:57:33] Voice 8: 2025 on page 72 and i'll look to uh island's trust conservancy chair

[1:57:39] Voice 5: at least to see

[1:57:40] Voice 8: if you'd like to

[1:57:43] Voice 8: highlight anything for it

[1:57:44] Voice 4: okay and

[1:57:51] Voice 8: then moving to page 74 we have the annual report and anything on this report

[1:58:05] Voice 8: anyone what's the request for decision for the local trust committee to approve

[1:58:18] Voice 8: the attached text for inclusion in the report to the minister there is

[1:58:24] Voice 8: a motion at the top

[1:58:25] Voice 8: page 74 if somebody would like to make that move it i

[1:58:29] Voice 4: knew that the yellow local trust committee

[1:58:32] Voice 4: approved the attached tax for inclusion into the 2024-25 annual report for approval by trust

[1:58:39] Voice 4: council submission to the minister of housing and municipal affairs move

[1:58:45] Voice 8: and the seconder

[1:58:49] Voice 8: seconded any discussion no not seeing any i'll call the question all those in favor

[1:58:56] Voice 8: And that carries.

[1:58:59] Voice 8: Okay, so at 19.2 is the new item voting.

[1:59:09] Voice 8: Trustee Mabry brought that to us.

[1:59:12] Voice 8: So we

[1:59:13] Voice 9: received a letter from Colleen Doty.

[1:59:22] Voice 9: MOT is the third way that we send out a vote of dedication to our self-provision of law

[1:59:26] Voice 9: one district 3031 to create a new two hectare affordable housing lot for affordable housing

[1:59:34] Voice 9: and in order for voting to proceed with the review to remove the requirement for road dedication

[1:59:39] Voice 9: is seeking confirmation from the lgc or island stress staff that the removal of this road

[1:59:44] Voice 9: dedication does not impact the lot zoning in any way and

[1:59:52] Voice 8: let us talk thank

[1:59:54] Voice 4: you i appreciate uh

[1:59:56] Voice 4: I trust you may really bring this forward and it looks as though.

[2:00:00] Voice 4: was not cc to this email so i'll make sure that you have a copy of it as well

[2:00:06] Voice 4: um it looks like it's actually a staff uh internal process where staff have to provide comments

[2:00:14] Voice 4: to the applicant and mott i'll confirm that if this is something that needs an ltc motion or

[2:00:21] Voice 4: recommendation i'll bring that back for the june meeting but it is a more of a internal staff

[2:00:26] Voice 4: staff to review and to ensure that everything looks good and is compliant. I will send that

[2:00:32] Voice 4: out and I'll also CC the LTC to that so you know what's going on. But if it does need

[2:00:38] Voice 4: LTC approval, I'll bring it back. I'm just not sure yet. I've got to check with Robert

[2:00:43] Voice 4: Kijima, RPM, just to ensure what the process is for this request. It's not very, it's not

[2:00:48] Voice 4: normal after a subdivision is complete for the Ministry of Transportation to come back

[2:00:54] Voice 4: can make changes so i want to make sure that we are proceeding the correct way

[2:00:58] Voice 9: so we don't need

[2:01:00] Voice 9: a motion just no

[2:01:01] Voice 4: not yet okay

[2:01:03] Voice 8: so our next meeting is scheduled for june 3rd at the north uh hall

[2:01:14] Voice 8: and with that we have a second town hall opportunity i'll just look two members

[2:01:19] Voice 8: is the public to say the name of the meeting house any questions or comments

[2:01:23] Voice 8: i

[2:01:23] Voice 4: just have a question

[2:01:37] Voice 5: can

[2:01:37] Voice 4: you can you explain a little bit more clearly

[2:01:40] Voice 4: about what that's about. I don't understand what the thing is.

[2:01:50] Voice 9: The Minister of Transportation and Transit is considering waiving the requirement for road

[2:01:55] Voice 9: dedication for some division of lot, district lot 1, district lot 3831 to create a new two-hectare

[2:02:03] Voice 9: lot per quarter proposal. So if we waive the road dedication and we have to go to staff and make

[2:02:11] Voice 9: sure that what she's asking for is actually accurate we just received a letter so staff

[2:02:17] Voice 9: will get back to us on what exactly she's asking for and what the process is

[2:02:28] Voice 4: well

[2:02:29] Voice 9: we don't know uh i mean staff would not have that conversation with um

[2:02:35] Voice 9: um and get back to us so if there's no if it doesn't require anything from us a staff will

[2:02:43] Voice 9: handle it and if it does require from something from us we'll get a staff report on the june

[2:02:48] Voice 9: at the june meeting so far it's just a score

[2:02:53] Voice 8: is gone yeah no

[2:02:54] Voice 4: i understand that

[2:02:55] Voice 4: just questioning the implications of what's being asked for yes

[2:03:00] Voice 6: yeah and we'll

[2:03:01] Voice 4: we'll

[2:03:03] Voice 6: know more when

[2:03:03] Voice 6: the staff to exit to the debate yeah and

[2:03:06] Voice 4: through the chair it looks not the whole dedication it

[2:03:10] Voice 4: looks like it's that portion that goes down to the foreshore so there's a long strip so if you're

[2:03:15] Voice 4: looking at a subdivision plan it's the northwest corner that looks like um may be waived by mlt

[2:03:23] Voice 4: um but i need to confirm that before we get any type of comments

[2:03:31] Voice 7: Yeah, I just got a comment on some of the discussion on the OCP, the proposed OCP review.

[2:03:42] Voice 7: I'm not sure I understood Trustee Mayer's concern about overall, like a whole OCP review lasting 10 years.

[2:03:57] Voice 7: Are you referring to some other island where this occurred?

[2:04:01] Voice 7: I'm

[2:04:02] Voice 9: referring to every other OCP review that's occurring at this time.

[2:04:05] Voice 9: They're all well into their tenures.

[2:04:09] Voice 9: And they don't even

[2:04:10] Voice 8: start on the other islands.

[2:04:13] Voice 7: They're the

[2:04:14] Voice 8: ones that were approved.

[2:04:15] Voice 7: Some

[2:04:15] Voice 8: of the ones that were just approved in the budget are ongoing.

[2:04:20] Voice 8: And because the way our budgeting system works,

[2:04:25] Voice 8: if if the project wasn't completed the previous year we have to approve budget again

[2:04:30] Voice 8: for the work to continue if it's over that into that major project threshold

[2:04:35] Voice 8: um i think the one that stands out for me is i believe the gambier one has been about 25 years

[2:04:42] Voice 8: and and they're fingers crossed i

[2:04:45] Voice 8: think they they feel they're they're they're gonna approach the

[2:04:49] Voice 8: finish of that this year but it's in some cases the the thing the real issue is the broader the

[2:04:56] Voice 8: scope um the longer the project may take and when and when you approach it in a more targeted

[2:05:02] Voice 8: fashion smaller pieces um can get tend to get done a little bit more nimbly and then uh rather than

[2:05:13] Voice 8: trying to tackle the whole uh entirety of the ocp in one go just

[2:05:18] Voice 9: believe me if the community comes

[2:05:20] Voice 9: back and says listen we want to do a complete review and then we've heard from the community

[2:05:25] Voice 9: we will endeavor around that path um my caution is that when when i look at the ocp reviews that

[2:05:33] Voice 9: are occurring at this present time the length of time that those ocp reviews have been in process

[2:05:38] Voice 9: That's really, you know, made me think, why wouldn't you just target specific things and

[2:05:45] Voice 9: try and have a more concise review, right?

[2:05:49] Voice 9: Well,

[2:05:50] Voice 7: as the staff report indicated, the last review on Galliano started in 2009, and it

[2:05:59] Voice 11: was

[2:06:00] Voice 7: a comprehensive review, I believe.

[2:06:02] Voice 7: It's not targeted, it's a comprehensive review.

[2:06:04] Voice 7: you started

[2:06:05] Voice 8: in 2009 and the

[2:06:06] Voice 7: bylaws were the amended bylaws were brought and improved in 2011

[2:06:12] Voice 7: so it only took it was a fairly you know it was an extensive process

[2:06:20] Voice 7: and it was quite efficiently and effectively done i think so we don't necessarily

[2:06:28] Voice 8: have to

[2:06:29] Voice 8: to target a review to have it

[2:06:33] Voice 7: done in an efficient, effective manner.

[2:06:37] Voice 7: And on what Trustee Grover said about Gabriola doing a visioning exercise,

[2:06:43] Voice 7: I believe that's exactly how the Galliano CP Review started, with a visioning exercise.

[2:06:51] Voice 7: It was the first, it was where the sundae, sundae on sundae, ice cream sundaes on sundae.

[2:07:01] Voice 7: It was, I think it was in the Lyons Hall.

[2:07:07] Voice 7: And there were ice cream sundaes getting out in the whole room.

[2:07:12] Voice 7: It was filled with people at tables.

[2:07:15] Voice 7: I don't know, maybe some people will remember that.

[2:07:17] Voice 7: It was quite a great exercise and eventually there were, as the staff reports said, a number of committees formed and it involved a wide set of committee, all the committees, and good support from the trustees.

[2:07:36] Voice 7: And, you know, there were significant changes made to the OCP, one of which came up on the

[2:07:46] Voice 7: agenda today, the addition of agricultural to a rural use, and also the addition of extra

[2:07:57] Voice 7: density for affordable housing came in to the OCP on that.

[2:08:07] Voice 9: I appreciate that and I think we'll take our direction when we just want so what we approved

[2:08:14] Voice 9: today is just sort of let's get a layout of where we're going to get community input and not

[2:08:19] Voice 9: starting and so if the input is okay let's take it on this and we get it done in an efficient

[2:08:25] Voice 9: manner then we'll let them do so I'm just looking at what I'm seeing and just you know coming

[2:08:33] Voice 9: through trust council and not seeing that process being as efficient as it was in 2009 so

[2:08:40] Voice 8: yeah okay

[2:08:42] Voice 8: well and the thing i would add to that is when you have uh we have a community uh that has uh

[2:08:48] Voice 8: members that are willing to sit down and do that type of committee work and and uh and really dig

[2:08:55] Voice 8: into those topics and bring good recommendations for for the local trust committee um it changes

[2:09:02] Voice 8: the timeline drastically because all of that work has to be done by staff and by trustees it's going

[2:09:09] Voice 8: to be slower when the community really digs into a project like that that that really changes the

[2:09:17] Voice 8: possible outcomes that's that's the experience i have looking at how it can go better more quickly

[2:09:24] Voice 8: more efficiently in some communities than others when you've got an engaged community willing to

[2:09:29] Voice 8: sit down and do the hard work a lot more can be done at a quicker time steve uh two comments i

[2:09:37] hope that uh the ltc or staff will reach out and as a matter of courtesy let

[2:09:44] Voice 9: the folks on wise

[2:09:45] Voice 9: island know that you're moving forward

[2:09:50] Voice 5: and the second way the ocp review um one way i don't know

[2:10:00] Voice 5: how you would treat something like there is something attached to the OCP called a regional

[2:10:07] trail regional trail network plan that was produced back in 2007 but it was driven by

[2:10:19] community organizations involved specifically I think by the arts and recreation commission

[2:10:31] One tool that you may look at is to figure out how many parts of the OCP were done by other people at other times and maybe ask those successive organizations whether or not they would be willing to update their section of the OCP

[2:10:53] Voice 9: rather than have it come back to an OCP review.

[2:10:57] Voice 9: view yeah i think as we go into this process we're going to find out you know a bunch of

[2:11:09] Voice 9: different ideas and ways that we can tackle parts of the ocp and see whether we need changes there

[2:11:15] Voice 9: or not right i don't think we need everybody would it help staff uh

[2:11:21] Voice 8: if the ltc said okay

[2:11:24] Voice 8: okay, we're not going to take a look at anything that has happened since 2020.

[2:11:33] Voice 5: We'll

[2:11:34] Voice 9: look at everything else.

[2:11:36] Voice 9: Sort of a cutoff.

[2:11:38] Voice 9: That is so recent, it doesn't need a review.

[2:11:44] Voice 8: Is that what you're looking for?

[2:11:45] Voice 8: I don't know.

[2:11:47] Voice 8: Well, I would just say that when we get into the actual topical part of that,

[2:11:53] Voice 8: then that couldn't stop.

[2:11:55] Voice 8: there's no reason why that couldn't be the case um as you know sort of identifying what what parts

[2:12:02] Voice 8: to target um targeted doesn't mean it's necessarily tiny in scope it just means it's focused yeah in

[2:12:10] Voice 8: certain areas um

[2:12:12] Voice 9: anyone else i want to sort of point out in 2009 our engagement with the

[2:12:18] Voice 9: delegate tribe was very limited and so you know we've got as much broader scope of

[2:12:24] Voice 9: certain engagement to take place it's going to be it's an interesting exercise but um

[2:12:34] Voice 9: okay

[2:12:39] Voice 6: then um so we do have a closed

[2:12:45] Voice 8: uh meeting set for today there's the motion on page three to

[2:12:53] Voice 8: to close the meeting.

[2:12:58] Voice 5: I move.

[2:13:00] Voice 5: Sorry, Nina.

[2:13:02] Voice 4: Yeah, I move the motion to

[2:13:04] Voice 4: close the meeting. Oh, yeah.

[2:13:07] Voice 4: I move that the meeting

[2:13:08] Voice 4: be closed for public and in accordance with

[2:13:10] Voice 4: community charter, part 4,

[2:13:12] Voice 4: section 90, 1af.

[2:13:15] Voice 4: A

[2:13:16] Voice 4: personal information about identifying

[2:13:18] Voice 4: the individual who holds

[2:13:21] Voice 4: or is being considered for a position

[2:13:22] Voice 4: as an officer,

[2:13:24] Voice 4: an employee or agent of the municipality or other physician appointed by the municipality

[2:13:31] Voice 4: and after law enforcement if council considers that disclosure to reasonably be expected to

[2:13:38] Voice 4: harm the conduct of an investigation under for enforcement of an enactment and that the recorder

[2:13:46] Voice 4: and staff and second

[2:13:49] Voice 8: discussion question all those in favor and carries

[2:14:00] Voice 5: I'm

[2:16:49] Voice 3: just

[2:17:45] Voice 3: wondering if Warren is expected if I should call him

[2:17:50] Voice 4: david should be in attendance um i sent them an email yeah

[2:17:56] Voice 8: neither of them are on the zoom at the

[2:17:57] Voice 8: moment okay

[2:17:59] Voice 4: so lauren said david needs to be here so i guess we're waiting for david okay and but we

[2:18:22] Voice 6: can proceed with the first part of the border variance part right so

[2:18:37] Voice 8: notwithstanding that

[2:18:39] Voice 8: we're going to wait for david

[2:18:39] Voice 8: hey

[2:18:42] Voice 4: are you doing you're able to join the camera please we're ready

[2:18:46] Voice 4: for you well i'm ready for you about five minutes okay i will send you the link to your email

[2:19:04] Voice 8: call the in-camera meeting of the galliano island local trust committee for april 8th

[2:19:09] Voice 8: into order and we will take a moment and acknowledge that we're fortunate to be able

[2:19:16] Voice 8: to gather here today in the territory of coast salish people's lens more specifically the

[2:19:21] Voice 8: penelope tribe keepers of these lands and waters since time immemorial an incredibly beautiful

[2:19:27] Voice 8: full place this is um so we have an agenda before us any amendments to the agenda today

[2:19:34] Voice 8: no

[2:19:35] Voice 5: additions all

[2:19:36] Voice 8: right i'll take it by general consent we will approve the agenda as presented

[2:19:41] Voice 8: so the first item is the minutes of the february 11th uh closed meeting for adoption anything on

[2:19:48] Voice 8: those minutes no

[2:19:49] Voice 4: changes no all

[2:19:51] Voice 8: right i'll take it by general consent we will adopt them as presented

[2:19:55] Voice 8: And then on page 4 we have the Board of Merriman's Appointments Memo.

[2:20:06] Voice 8: They're due to have expired 4 days ago.

[2:20:10] Voice 3: Who said? Oh, I didn't

[2:20:13] Voice 8: catch that.

[2:20:16] Voice 8: It's the 8th day they expired on the 4th.

[2:20:19] Voice 8: And I think we all know where we're going here, so I'll just open it up.

[2:20:25] Voice 8: I'll make a motion that

[2:20:27] Voice 9: the Galliano Island Local Trust Committee appoint Burt Holt,

[2:20:31] Voice 9: Facility Group Bank, and Dennis Perch to the Galliano Island Board of Durians commencing

[2:20:36] Voice 9: immediately for a term ending April 8, 2028.

[2:20:40] Voice 5: Second.

[2:20:41] Voice 8: Moved and seconded.

[2:20:42] Voice 8: Any discussion?

[2:20:43] Voice 5: No.

[2:20:44] Voice 8: All right.

[2:20:44] Voice 8: I'll call the question.

[2:20:45] Voice 8: All those in favor?

[2:20:47] Voice 8: And that has carried.

[2:20:51] Voice 8: And I see David has just joined us.

[2:20:56] Voice 8: on page all right so we just have the court on page starting on page eight and i'll turn it over

[2:21:10] Voice 8: to by law enforcement officer david hi guys

[2:21:16] Voice 2: how's everybody doing how

[2:21:19] Voice 8: are you today good

[2:21:21] Voice 2: why don't i share my screen and we can just quickly review the document and then we can

[2:21:27] Voice 2: and decide what we're going to do going forward.

[2:21:34] Voice 2: Does that sound good?

[2:21:35] Voice 4: I'll share with you.

[2:21:39] Voice 8: Sure.

[2:21:41] Voice 8: So you're just sharing the staff report at this moment?

[2:21:45] Voice 2: Yeah.

[2:21:46] Voice 2: Unless everyone's reviewed it and we don't need to go through it, I won't.

[2:21:50] Voice 2: But I thought we'd quickly go through it with you guys.

[2:21:56] Voice 8: Sure.

[2:21:57] Voice 8: Go ahead.

[2:21:58] Voice 2: Yeah.

[2:21:59] Voice 8: Yeah,

[2:21:59] Voice 2: so we received two public complaints regarding the siting of structures used for the accommodation of farm animals, specifically it's goats and chickens.

[2:22:09] Voice 2: And it was determined that the lot size is not large enough to comply with the 30 meter interior side lot setback requirement for animal enclosures.

[2:22:20] Voice 2: The two complaints were about specifically that bylaw, the animal enclosures.

[2:22:26] Voice 2: there was also a concern about the welfare of animals being left alone and the noise that was

[2:22:32] Voice 2: made from a rooster and one of the goats being cited as extremely loud for this zone the rr zone

[2:22:42] Voice 2: there is a bylaw 5472 that allows the structures for animals but they have to be cited at least

[2:22:51] Voice 2: 30 meters from any interior side lot line when we did an approximation of the property's side the

[2:22:59] Voice 2: size the width it's 45.8 meters wide so the structures for the accommodated accommodation

[2:23:08] Voice 2: of animals would not be permitted because it has to be at least 60 meters wide so i did meet the

[2:23:21] Voice 2: observed two goats and approximately eight chickens uh the property owner the respondent

[2:23:28] Voice 2: advised that she does have people that take care of her animals when she does leave the property

[2:23:33] Voice 2: which isn't very frequent and she also provided a document from her doctor confirming that the

[2:23:40] Voice 2: goats are designated her emotional support animals necessary for her to maintain her current mental

[2:23:45] Voice 2: health and stability. She did state that she will not be applying for a land use variance which

[2:23:52] Voice 2: is an option due to financial restraints. I wanted to just quickly go through the photos if you

[2:24:01] Voice 2: haven't seen them already. I'm currently on an aerial photo that shows the approximate width

[2:24:06] Voice 2: of the property at 45.8 meters. Right here hopefully you can see it I'm just circling

[2:24:14] Voice 2: that's the neighbor's property and then there's also another property back here

[2:24:20] Voice 2: and then a park um to the left and

[2:24:27] Voice 4: david sorry just a

[2:24:28] Voice 4: quick question where are the where is

[2:24:31] Voice 4: where where's the barn structure on that in comparison or the the ghost structure

[2:24:38] Voice 4: yeah

[2:24:39] Voice 2: can you see where my the hand is right now perfect

[2:24:43] Voice 4: so it's to the left of the house

[2:24:45] Voice 4: just above that blue line yeah okay

[2:24:48] Voice 4: perfect that helps in perspective

[2:24:50] Voice 4: so the closer to the park

[2:24:54] Voice 4: the park probably goes to the east exactly

[2:24:59] Voice 2: so it's closer to the park um when you're walking

[2:25:04] Voice 2: on the trail which i did in the park you can see the structures might not be a concern with

[2:25:10] Voice 2: the park too it doesn't look like it's probably um it's used but probably not as much as some

[2:25:18] Voice 2: other parts like

[2:25:19] Voice 4: actually it's probably 30 meters though from that property line that they share

[2:25:23] Voice 4: with the property owners to the right but it just doesn't need the 30 meters from the park

[2:25:29] Voice 4: except that okay you know i'm just building up a rationale the ldc decides to proceed no further

[2:25:39] Voice 4: but okay yeah

[2:25:42] Voice 2: that is a good point um so this is a photograph of me in the driveway it's sorry

[2:25:51] Voice 2: about the sunshine over on the left is the property owner's house in the middle is the

[2:25:58] Voice 2: animal structures and then on the right is the park. Here's a view of the animal structures

[2:26:05] Voice 2: and the final one is a view of me standing inside this area looking at the structures.

[2:26:13] Voice 2: The one thing I did want to note is that just behind the trees here you can actually see the

[2:26:17] Voice 2: neighbor's home and then if you look over to your right it's a little bit further but there is

[2:26:23] Voice 2: another residence there uh the one concern when i was standing here was just about the noise

[2:26:31] Voice 2: heard from um from this property to the other properties it might affect them might affect

[2:26:39] Voice 2: the resale i was thinking um while i was standing there and that's why i put in that photo

[2:26:47] Voice 2: and then i'll just go back up just trying to go through this pretty quickly for you guys

[2:26:53] Voice 2: and then there's our options available as the LCC can direct bylaw staff to continue enforcement as

[2:27:00] Voice 2: is direct us to place the file in abeyance and that would be if you want more information

[2:27:08] Voice 2: or you want to review some additional things we can do that or you can direct bylaw staff to close

[2:27:16] Voice 2: the file under the bylaw compliance enforcement policy and that's it hopefully I didn't go too

[2:27:26] Voice 2: too fast for you thank

[2:27:30] Voice 6: you very much and just

[2:27:34] Voice 4: yeah this one's kind of tough are there any tools short of a various there's nothing else

[2:27:47] Voice 4: she has to

[2:27:48] Voice 9: go here is for recommendation

[2:27:50] Voice 9: like

[2:27:51] Voice 4: really like i'm trying to think is there anything you come up with

[2:27:56] Voice 4: but um

[2:27:57] Voice 4: Um, I had a question.

[2:28:00] Voice 4: I'm not asking for details, but are there other, are our lots

[2:28:05] Voice 4: that are in similar situations right now? I'm wondering if this is like,

[2:28:10] Voice 4: right? There would have been, I'm

[2:28:15] Voice 5: not seeing that

[2:28:16] Voice 4: a lot, but I am worried that we do start

[2:28:20] Voice 4: seeing this a lot, right? Well, I mean, you

[2:28:28] Voice 10: know, everybody got it.

[2:28:31] Voice 4: Yeah. I mean, I,

[2:28:32] Voice 4: I am a little bit surprised

[2:28:34] Voice 4: how often we talk about roads as the trustee.

[2:28:38] Voice 4: I didn't anticipate this many conversations about roads.

[2:28:42] Voice 4: Well,

[2:28:42] Voice 8: if you're really skinny, trust

[2:28:44] Voice 4: me, it would all

[2:28:45] Voice 8: be about sheep.

[2:28:46] Voice 4: Sheep, right?

[2:28:49] Voice 4: So, yeah, I mean, we're trying to balance the zoning compliance and the neighborhood's concerns.

[2:28:56] Voice 4: but also we have I want to consider the mental health issue of this individual as well

[2:29:07] Voice 4: yeah

[2:29:08] Voice 9: she has a doctor's I know she's got I know

[2:29:12] Voice 9: she has a

[2:29:12] Voice 4: doctor's note that refers to the goats

[2:29:16] Voice 4: not chickens no right and that emotional support animals do not override local values

[2:29:23] Voice 4: spoil us they're not service animals right no no so

[2:29:27] Voice 4: this is i know i'm not i really have two

[2:29:31] Voice 4: lines here but i want to land right in the middle kind of here i don't want the situation to escalate

[2:29:37] Voice 4: i don't think it needs to um is it possible that we can communicate with the landowner

[2:29:44] Voice 4: not to get any more

[2:29:46] Voice 4: animals in the future.

[2:29:50] Voice 9: Can I

[2:29:50] Voice 9: sort of chime in on that?

[2:29:53] Voice 9: Here's the thing that I get to

[2:29:54] Voice 9: is we don't want to just say

[2:29:58] Voice 9: yeah, just

[2:29:58] Voice 9: close the file.

[2:30:00] Voice 9: do whatever you want i mean i think you know we go right back to the rooster situation on salt spring

[2:30:06] Voice 9: which is driving everybody crazy right so i mean if we could have a discussion you know i would

[2:30:12] Voice 9: start to go over can we have a discussion and i think kim brought up a great point

[2:30:15] Voice 9: can you move your sheds more towards the park away from the neighbors so that they get us get them as

[2:30:22] Voice 9: far away from the neighbors as possible for the goats and can you get rid of the rooster right

[2:30:28] Voice 11: right? And

[2:30:28] Voice 9: then if we put the

[2:30:30] Voice 9: file in advance,

[2:30:32] Voice 9: then those two recommendations

[2:30:33] Voice 9: would be sort of where I would go, and then

[2:30:35] Voice 9: it gives the landowner an opportunity

[2:30:38] Voice 9: to

[2:30:40] Voice 9: mitigate, you know, the

[2:30:42] Voice 9: situation. And

[2:30:43] Voice 9: if they don't, then

[2:30:46] Voice 9: it's going to come back to us anyways, right?

[2:30:48] Voice 9: And

[2:30:49] Voice 9: I mean, I would say, you know, having

[2:30:52] Voice 9: the chickens there is probably, you know,

[2:30:54] Voice 9: chickens don't make a lot of noise. It's

[2:30:56] Voice 9: that rooster in the morning that drives

[2:30:57] Voice 9: everybody will listen right and and has done on salt spring for a while and i know my solution

[2:31:04] Voice 9: is but of course we don't do that anymore um yeah so that that would be sort of where i just leave

[2:31:13] Voice 9: i would be meaning right i mean i i understand i've been to the property i understand um

[2:31:21] Voice 9: the fragility of the person in regards to her animals

[2:31:27] Voice 9: and so you know i don't think we can just be callous right um so to me let's give her some

[2:31:38] Voice 9: options to mitigate and and just put the file in the bank and yeah and give her some give her a

[2:31:46] Voice 9: bit of time and and uh you know i think what does that sound like to you baby yeah no i heard you

[2:31:58] Voice 2: you're right um so put in advance i could go to the property and measure out um the 30 meters so

[2:32:05] Voice 2: we have an exact or at least as far as she can place it over and measure and see how far that

[2:32:11] Voice 2: actually is so we have that in the file as notes um and then possibility to remove the rooster did

[2:32:22] Voice 2: Did I hear that correctly?

[2:32:23] Voice 2: Yeah.

[2:32:24] Voice 2: Okay.

[2:32:24] Voice 2: So that would at least rectify that one concern about the noise of the rooster.

[2:32:34] Voice 2: Yeah.

[2:32:35] Voice 9: And I think, you know, this would be a good opportunity now for the

[2:32:41] Voice 9: owner to sort of do something positive, right?

[2:32:47] Voice 9: Right. I mean, I know she's been feeling very negative about

[2:32:49] Voice 9: the situation, but it allows her to sort of radiate into something positive and perhaps work to a better solution with her neighbors as well.

[2:32:59] Voice 4: Yeah.

[2:33:00] Voice 4: Right.

[2:33:02] Voice 8: And then I

[2:33:03] Voice 8: have a question which isn't strictly bylaw related, but, you know, I don't know this person and he doesn't community members.

[2:33:10] Voice 8: first um we understand that you know applying for a variance beyond her financial um capabilities

[2:33:19] Voice 8: at this time in terms of requesting that she you know move the structures um i'm just thinking is

[2:33:29] Voice 8: if that's something she needs help with but she doesn't have money is there like can you think

[2:33:36] Voice 8: of people that could would be maybe willing to go and help her out so that she's not in this

[2:33:42] Voice 5: stressed

[2:33:42] Voice 8: out by doing that like this isn't strictly bylaw at all this is more like

[2:33:46] Voice 8: compassionate for the person but she's actually she has actually mentioned that possibility

[2:33:51] Voice 9: these aren't

[2:33:53] Voice 8: complicated okay yeah

[2:33:55] Voice 6: yeah i'm just i'm

[2:33:56] Voice 8: just thinking about the practical end

[2:33:58] Voice 8: where the person may struggle to actually accomplish what we're asking

[2:34:03] Voice 8: like physically so go ahead um

[2:34:05] Voice 4: and also the question though is she moves it closer to the

[2:34:08] Voice 4: park even by 10 feet it's going to make that much of a difference i'm not sure what may be helpful

[2:34:14] Voice 4: is if she can work on creating a visual barrier at least from her neighbors i always plant a few

[2:34:22] Voice 4: shrubs or put up a little fence or something to clean it up so at least the visual barrier is

[2:34:28] Voice 4: there um and that might help with sound um but we're encouraging her to go further into the

[2:34:38] Voice 4: sent back to the park could that be a concern for those who enjoy the park too i don't know

[2:34:43] Voice 4: and i

[2:34:44] Voice 8: mean i take your point there because if if we're encouraging her to do something that

[2:34:51] Voice 8: doesn't in the end alleviate the non-performance that has potential to be problematic in in

[2:35:02] Voice 3: in

[2:35:02] Voice 8: terms of if it ever comes down to any kind of a legal thing and the ltc has said hey just

[2:35:09] Voice 8: moving back to the park where it's also not like legal so there is definitely some there's some

[2:35:16] Voice 8: gray area there and that's why i sort of pulled back and asked about you know other members of

[2:35:21] Voice 8: the committee that could help her to mitigate which is totally beyond

[2:35:24] Voice 6: her her view as an ltc

[2:35:26] Voice 8: that just as a

[2:35:26] Voice 4: excuse right she's quite popular she has a lot so she's

[2:35:31] Voice 4: got friends that will help

[2:35:33] Voice 4: yes you know put up one or two fence panels perhaps and give that visual barrier and

[2:35:40] Voice 4: another thing is if the ltc does either put in a van so close the

[2:35:44] Voice 4: file um ltc i mean you don't

[2:35:48] Voice 4: need a resolution for this but i can add this concern so that the 30 meter setback to a list

[2:35:55] Voice 4: of possible future amendments with land use by law by law so if for whatever reason you hear from

[2:36:01] Voice 4: that concerns neighbors saying you know what happened what's going on like why was it filed

[2:36:06] Voice 4: we see it as an issue and we need to look at it not in a perspective of this one property

[2:36:12] Voice 4: but for the entirety of yeah i don't know it may not be resolved now but it's something that's on

[2:36:17] Voice 4: our list of things to look at yeah yeah and

[2:36:21] Voice 8: i think in terms of of back to within our

[2:36:27] Voice 8: real legal scope that like abeyance makes sense to me because if there's future complaints or

[2:36:37] Voice 8: a complete unwillingness by the individual to do anything at all um we

[2:36:44] Voice 5: can pull it out

[2:36:44] Voice 8: it can be pulled up again whereas if we close the pile

[2:36:46] Voice 9: yeah and that's that's the

[2:36:48] Voice 9: thing i mean if

[2:36:49] Voice 9: we put it in advance and then she goes and buys four more roosters we're going okay we're going

[2:36:54] Voice 9: in the wrong direction that's

[2:36:57] Voice 5: what i'm worried about yeah yeah you know

[2:37:00] Voice 5: it's not murderable

[2:37:01] Voice 9: but by putting in advance and going to her and you know with some recommendations to improve

[2:37:06] Voice 9: the situation um yeah then

[2:37:09] Voice 9: we really are sort of giving her a path to success

[2:37:12] Voice 9: success. Whether the neighbors feel like to pass as success or not, I'm sure we'll hear.

[2:37:20] Voice 11: To

[2:37:21] Voice 9: me, I mean, you know, goats can be valid, but they're not like roosters. Because roosters,

[2:37:27] Voice 9: you know, at 4.30 or 4 o'clock in the morning start going and that's not great.

[2:37:38] Voice 8: I don't have one with my flock.

[2:37:45] Voice 10: yeah um

[2:37:47] Voice 2: i will jump in and just let you guys know that the animal structures are movable

[2:37:53] Voice 2: they uh they come apart and can be put back together she informed me that when i was there

[2:37:58] Voice 2: and then we can also include or i can communicate with the property owner that if there is

[2:38:05] Voice 2: additional complaints either from the park you know people complaining in the park or neighbors

[2:38:12] Voice 2: that we will have to readdress

[2:38:14] Voice 2: the file. Does that make sense?

[2:38:16] Voice 9: Yeah, I think that makes sense.

[2:38:20] Voice 9: So, I mean, I would like

[2:38:22] Voice 9: to make the recommendation that we put in advance

[2:38:24] Voice 9: depending on the

[2:38:27] Voice 9: recommendations made by

[2:38:29] Voice 9: file enforcement or the owner.

[2:38:31] Voice 9: Does that sound

[2:38:33] Voice 5: like it?

[2:38:35] Voice 8: Can we just do the

[2:38:38] Voice 8: alternative

[2:38:39] Voice 8: to as written and

[2:38:40] Voice 8: take it, David, that you're going to

[2:38:43] Voice 8: you've heard our conversation and the

[2:38:47] Voice 4: rooster must go yes

[2:38:51] Voice 8: yeah okay okay

[2:38:53] Voice 8: if

[2:38:53] Voice 9: you'd

[2:39:05] Voice 8: throw the to

[2:39:09] Voice 6: allow additional time to refill the vial and or gather in for more

[2:39:12] Voice 6: of

[2:39:13] Voice 8: information because to me that that that then that kind of gives david the scope to

[2:39:19] Voice 8: have that conversation to see if she's actually holding it right yeah

[2:39:23] Voice 8: i

[2:39:24] Voice 9: move that the government will trust me direct my staff to place a file in advance to allow

[2:39:30] Voice 9: additional time to review the file and or gather more information i'll second that

[2:39:35] Voice 8: second uh any

[2:39:36] Voice 8: for the discussion all right uh all those in favor great

[2:39:43] Voice 2: and that carries thanks david

[2:39:45] Voice 3: thanks david thank you

[2:39:47] Voice 2: thank you for your time

[2:39:50] Voice 8: okay so then that brings us to consideration of rising report um i think the rising report

[2:39:59] Voice 8: would be that we adopted some in-camera minutes from the february 11th meeting and that we made

[2:40:05] Voice 8: the board of various appointments yeah and

[2:40:08] Voice 8: then so procedurally staff um should we just go back

[2:40:16] Voice 8: into open meeting then and do that now or sure yeah okay so i'll look to uh lisa millard to help

[2:40:25] Voice 8: us with the technical parts of that okay so the rise and report from the in-camera meeting of

[2:40:39] Voice 8: april 8th 2025 the galliano island local trust committee that the galliano um local trust

[2:40:48] Voice 8: committee approved or adopted the in-camera minutes uh from february 11th and um reappointed

[2:40:57] Voice 8: burke hall persisting from cilla uveg and dennis perch to the board of variants uh effective

[2:41:05] Voice 8: immediately for term ending April 8th, 2028.

[2:41:12] Voice 8: And I believe that concludes our business.

[2:41:16] Voice 8: And so we'll move to adjourn.

[2:41:22] Voice 8: Everyone's in favor.

[2:41:24] Voice 8: All right, thanks everybody.

[2:41:25] Voice 8: Thank you.

[2:41:29] Voice 8: Thank you, Lisa.

[2:41:31] Voice 8: Thanks Lisa.

[2:41:31] Voice 10: Thanks Lisa.

[2:41:32] Voice 10: Thank you.