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Staff, Islands Trust Conservancy Board, Islands Trust Council, Islands Trust Executive Committee, Islands Trust Financial Planning Committee, Islands Trust Programs Committee, Islands Trust Regional Planning Committee, Ballenas-Winchelsea Local Trust Committee, Denman Island Local Trust Committee, Gambier Island Local Trust Committee, Hornby Island Local Trust Committee, Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee, Thetis Island Local Trust Committee. 23,867 lines across 58 meetings, 2021-01-18 to 2026-02-21. The longest three lines from each meeting are shown; the transcript page has every line, with its confidence mark, and the recording plays from any of them.

  1. Denman Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, February 21, 2026

    2026-02-21 · 34 lines

    • [0:54:16] “And, quite honestly, I don't know that there's a dramatically new technology on the horizon. This policy statement is not meant to be perfect and will last for eternity. Adequate language would be sufficient to cover the concept of energy efficient, even zero emission, if you wish. But that's my two cents. We can change it.”
    • [1:50:05] “Household waste is indeed a responsibility of regional district. Community service is something that we can zone for. But again, we do not actually directly provide community service and hazardous waste. I think that's a responsibility of the person with the hazard and sewerage is also not within our jurisdiction.”
    • [0:42:37] “land use planning responsibility um we have often included trails and networks of trails and roads”

  2. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, December 3, 2025

    2025-12-03 · 96 lines

    • [7:12:07] “I was looking at a map the other day, which actually is about the vacancy tax, not associated with the short-term vacation rental tax, but I noticed that within, and I'm not mentioning it specifically because I don't want to upset anybody, but there was a regional district in which the bulk of the regional district was included.”
    • [4:18:32] “Thank you. This is a continuation of a project. And I guess what I want to assess is how much money have we already invested in this, including grant money, so that I know what the investment is, and how many hours of staff have been already spent on this project.”
    • [4:18:54] “Like, if this is a wrap-up, then it does strike me, and I'm hearing an awful lot of interest in advancing this around the table and moving in that direction, but just would like to have that clarity.”

  3. Denman Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, September 24, 2024

    2024-09-24 · 494 lines

    • [3:53:17] “I've worked with staff and have recently, all of us attended UBCM and garnered some information from provincial staff. And I'd like to provide her the opportunity to provide that information to you. The CEO wishes to address the CEO comments in the RFD. And then I think we need to have an opportunity to debate this and have this conversation broadly to determine what actions we want to take.”
    • [0:15:45] “And, you know, that's the kind of message that, you know, in a little bit more elaboration, we need to work together, we win together, we lose together, we struggle together, but playing as a team, playing the game fairly and respectfully with each other and grieving with times when maybe we made a bad play together and celebrating together when we've had successes.”
    • [1:36:00] “And certainly, this is a book that's available at the BC ferries, terminals and on the vessel, easily acquired. And I would recommend if you want to know anything about local indigenous plants, this is it. So thank you, Arvid, for your great work, Lusjean. That's it from me.”

  4. Thetis Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, July 9, 2024

    2024-07-09 · 157 lines

    • [0:41:26] “If there was a significant fire on Ruxton Island, potentially the damage could be significant and that in a large scale fire, the ambers and the like that potentially could spread to the other islands in the region, including Vancouver Island, would also set those communities at risk.”
    • [0:41:47] “And so water is an important thing, and I'm grateful to Director McClinton for having spent a significant amount of time to understand the issues on Rockland and find a creative way to assist them in their fire service.”
    • [0:59:22] “So we would want to have the ability to bring that person in and broadcast that on a screen in our hall to respect the amount of time that would be necessary for someone to come to the Thetis meeting.”

  5. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, June 18, 2024

    2024-06-18 · 442 lines

    • [0:56:18] “And despite the fact that the ferry terminal was wiped out by a school bus about two weeks ago, backed into it, knocked it off the blocks and is now condemned, the Gavi dock, which has been in desperate need of repairs for many years, actually got started on the repairs until apparently the CVRD hadn't done sufficient archaeological investigation to determine that there was an archaeological site there,”
    • [4:15:20] “And we'll pick up whatever we can on Trust Area Services before we break at 545 to hear from the inclusive governance session from Adam Olson, who I don't think I mentioned that he is attending the session electronically.”
    • [5:25:58] “And Nathan Collins, indeed, did, you know, potentially the right thing in saying, well, we're not going to make the decision now, but post-election, we can help you with that decision.”

  6. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, October 18, 2023

    2023-10-18 · 126 lines

    • [3:34:07] “And so I'm just too, I'm worried about direction being provided and numbers being directed that there's too many people in the pot that might slow the process down, because I think the other thing about the time is slipping by quickly, and we need to have a plan in place for December, and we, my desire and executive committee is supporting that desire is that we really need to look closely at how we're actually conducting each of the meetings and then indeed setting up a plan for next year.”
    • [4:23:33] “But the trouble is, I don't believe that it's easy. Executive Committee only looked at its business cases last week. And so that material, although it's in the ECE package, certainly, it's not a decision that is ready to be advanced to Financial Planning Committee, just as one example.”
    • [0:59:11] “But we also need at the same time to deliver on the services that our communities expect, as well as be able to facilitate and support the projects and work that trustees want to undertake.”

  7. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, September 26, 2023

    2023-09-26 · 387 lines

    • [0:42:56] “thank you very much, Ciel, for those updates. Before I get too far along, I actually just want to recognize Rob Botterill, who is in our audience here. He's a past trustee from the 80s, about 82 to 86, more or less, of Bowen Island, prior to the incorporation, and is now a resident of Pender Island at the end of the, well, whatever, at the moment he's a resident of Pender Island.”
    • [2:28:25] “Honestly, I would be very happy to have more solid direction from the Governors Committee with respect to this ask, because that's the content of that ask is the weakest part of it, and some strengthening it would be incredibly valuable.”
    • [0:43:56] “Okay, not seeing anything online or in the room. So then we will receive those by general consent that the Ombudsperson adopt the recommendations as presented in items 5.1.1 and 5.1.2.”

  8. Denman Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, January 17, 2023

    2023-01-17 · 36 lines

    • [2:39:33] “So certainly it'll be up to this committee to determine whether or not they would still support the projects as listed once they've seen a revised business case, et cetera.”
    • [2:38:50] “probably one of the most efficient and advantageous things that we have ever done. And it's certainly”
    • [0:32:14] “so just encourage everybody to participate as much as they can but I think if you missed one meeting”

  9. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee public hearing, August 18, 2022

    2022-08-18 · 286 lines

    • [0:15:04] “I do need you to pass that off to the next person in order to keep us kind of flowing in a respectful way to allow everybody to be heard.”
    • [0:27:16] “Really, the opportunity for the clarification was prior to the public hearing, and I want to be respectful of the time.”
    • [1:16:28] “sir did you state your name for the record and you have two minutes absolutely i think you've seen the”

  10. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, June 29, 2022

    2022-06-29 · 380 lines

    • [1:06:23] “And indeed, we have to have projects. Well, I guess it begs the question about what the projects are and do we really need any projects. And so, to me, narrowing the focus here in terms of this amendment is where it goes to early engagement with First Nations and others to provide input to possible projects in the local trust area would be as simple as it needs to be.”
    • [1:15:10] “So thanks, Dan. Thank you, Executive Committee. I want to thank you for your work as little as it might be on this LTC, because this is a really spectacular place. And I'm sorry that we didn't get a boat trip together to go and appreciate that.”
    • [0:25:01] “So I would suggest we be careful. And certainly, I don't have any trouble with the advancing, making recommendations to the incoming LTC. But I would suggest we should leave this for further thought to a future LTC. That's my two cents.”

  11. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, June 14, 2022

    2022-06-14 · 700 lines

    • [0:40:03] “But certainly as we're preparing for council, which is coming up June 21, 22, 23, we've met with financial planning committee, regional planning committee, previously known as local planning committee and trust and trust program committee to advance the work associated with the policy statement with the regional planning strategy.”
    • [0:44:48] “It's going to be difficult to ban or restrict these vessels from anchoring, but certainly we want to see a much better managed, safe method of conducting that activity, which we feel is inappropriate in the Salish Sea, and recognize the economic impact to the country, of course, and the benefits to the country.”
    • [0:44:24] “And there is a meeting planned in July to try and gather all the people at the table to be able to advance this issue as a front to the federal government and the provincial government to achieve some relief.”

  12. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, June 8, 2022

    2022-06-08 · 982 lines

    • [2:51:50] “So, just thinking out loud, maybe what I'll do actually is, if Trustee McConkie is still here, is how about we address 7.5.6 right now? He may be on his lunch break and wanting to go back to work, and I want to respect that. And let's do 7.5.6, and then we'll just double back to administrative services, and then we'll all have a break for lunch. Does that sound reasonable?”
    • [4:26:41] “And I would like to say, I'll just blurt it out right now, I would like to see the 8.2.11 somehow in advance of the RFD decisions for trustees, because elements of what you're talking about touch on both the Provincial Review of the Islanders Trust and the Governance Committee, although obviously the request for the Islanders Trust review is different.”
    • [4:43:33] “And so we'll just forward this as amended based upon the suggestions from Trustee Rogers, which was to have the CEO's report included in the executive committee, CEO's reporting out section there in the afternoon on day one, and then have that followed by the establishing a standing governance committee of Trust Council.”

  13. Hornby Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, May 25, 2022

    2022-05-25 · 471 lines

    • [1:44:53] “But anyway, on the agenda, it looks pretty fulsome. We're going to see this again on the 8th, I believe. And I'm presuming, Laurie, that the two trustees that are bringing forward new business are aware of the June 8th, obviously prior to that, in order for you to assemble it in the package.”
    • [0:51:28] “And clearly, this investment that was made in this council and staff, and indeed, even with new staff that's come on board, we will need to make the same or similar investment with those new trustees and new staff to be sure that they are also in that place that we are.”
    • [0:51:45] “And, you know, we did have that little small group of trustees that had additional levels of skills that we should also be cognizant of refreshing and being sure that in the next council, there's others that are prepared to lead those roles.”

  14. Denman Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, May 18, 2022

    2022-05-18 · 124 lines

    • [4:49:35] “Because it's sure if you can fall back to the existing policy, but it's may not be ideal. But is it a movement in the right direction? And it's not written in stone. It will evolve. And certainly as the whole conversation, particularly around First Nations evolves, there is absolutely no doubt we will continue to develop this.”
    • [4:49:56] “So I would encourage you to bring this to council because if not, I'm afraid that this work, which is embodied in the revisioning of delivery and planning services, could be seriously hampered in advancing this term.”
    • [1:15:06] “And what we're asking, I think, really, is for conversation with the lieutenant governor, not with the province, but with the lieutenant governor to provide direction to the province to undertake this work.”

  15. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee special meeting, March 15, 2022

    2022-03-15 · 51 lines

    • [0:03:30] “And I would like to report out that the Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee has appointed Jennifer Maximets, Martin Ogilvy, Francis Carlin, Robert Steinbeck, and Kathy Ramsey to fill the vacant seats on the Ganges Village Planning Task Force.”
    • [0:03:57] “We have chosen to not do the full compliment in order to avoid complications associated with quorum and an interest in the committee for being a little smaller to make the discussions a little more manageable and just want to respect that.”
    • [0:03:19] “Okay. Well, we have just returned from an in-camera meeting, and we've opened the meeting to the public.”

  16. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee special meeting, February 15, 2022

    2022-02-15 · 1118 lines

    • [3:10:47] “It's really critically important that this be a safe place, respectful place for all of the participants, trustees, staff, and of course, all of your friends and neighbors that are out there that are joining us from the Salisbury community.”
    • [3:21:17] “you, Ronan. There's an awful lot of information that you presented there. And if you have that in writing, much appreciated if you could submit that to the LTC to help us. And thank you for joining us.”
    • [3:21:53] “And so I've got one, two, three, four, five speakers, starting with Franz, I believe, and then David Rumsey, and Gunn, Ryder, Bergerud, sorry about that, and Ian Peace, and André L. Martel.”

  17. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, February 10, 2022

    2022-02-10 · 113 lines

    • [0:06:04] “has joined us here as well. Thank you, Sarah. And Rob Pringle is also there manning the technology”
    • [0:02:16] “looked like you were busy whittling or something but it's a mess okay so marguerite uh marguerite”
    • [0:06:20] “certainly happy to host any kind of discussion that you'd like to have today. The one particular”

  18. Ballenas-Winchelsea Local Trust Committee special meeting, January 24, 2022

    2022-01-24 · 271 lines

    • [0:31:58] “And again, when there's a significantly controversial issue, it could be anything from where we've seen kayaking operations that want to come into the islands, issues that want to come into the islands, development on Winchelsea, Bolinas-Winchelsea islands that might come into play.”
    • [0:53:00] “I think I heard that from Trustee Patrick. And so it's not just the Bolinas-Winchelsey that's advancing it, but that it's being advanced by potentially other northern LTCs that may or may not feel the requirement for this.”
    • [0:32:19] “And there may be other citizens of British Columbia feel it's necessary, or even other citizens within the Islands Trust area that feel that it's necessary to come.”

  19. Denman Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, January 19, 2022

    2022-01-19 · 242 lines

    • [1:22:22] “But I sort of think it might be interesting to know what those increases have been over those years rather than a graph, a percentage, because the way the scaling is done, it doesn't necessarily indicate where it is that there are significant growth or cost or expenses being incurred that some are wanting us to do.”
    • [3:08:10] “And it would be interesting to know from a general perspective whether or not that indeed LTCs are adopting the electronic updating their bylaws to allow for more electronic meetings and whether or not there's an overall flavor of realizing that they want electronic meetings.”
    • [3:08:46] “The reality, I think, and the CAO would be able to comment on that is that there was work not getting, simply not getting done in those areas, support staff areas, because those individuals were being drawn away to run electronic meetings.”

  20. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, January 18, 2022

    2022-01-18 · 834 lines

    • [0:04:11] “That's a brilliant idea. So I'm just making some notes to that. Electronics on item 18. And you would like to switch 8.1 and 8.2. So unless there are any concerns from the trustees, then we shall do exactly that. I've marked that. And so thank you for bringing that. Anything else from anybody? No.”
    • [5:25:37] “I want to thank the members of the public that were so keen to engage, but it's one of those things that is difficult with the meeting because the trustees on the meeting and here we are.”
    • [2:45:38] “And then if you have other items, you're certainly welcome to join us in the town hall, which may be your interest in the Main Street thing would have been better suited in the town hall.”

  21. Islands Trust Council community information meeting, January 10, 2022

    2022-01-10 · 64 lines

    • [0:12:13] “I do. I'd just like to remind Trustee Brent that when we did receive correspondence at this committee, there was a conversation about what would we do with that and how should we manage it, because there was not a public input component to this committee.”
    • [0:12:30] “So it's not unusual, and I think it's appropriate that members relay their concerns about anything that we happen to be doing.”
    • [0:55:50] “I guess I'm more inclined of the ministry related to the Islanders Trust or any other provincial agent.”

  22. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, November 18, 2021

    2021-11-18 · 193 lines

    • [0:41:30] “And then the opportunity exists for us to include additional amendments, as you've indicated, to make this more effective going forward. And, you know, some of those may be easy and some of them may not be, but it certainly sounds like a good positive direction overall in the conversation and the recommendations that you brought forward to us.”
    • [0:14:34] “you very much, Planner Mays. So, ostensibly, this staff report is here for the LTC in support of the recommendations that are contained in that report, but I presume that there's interest from the AAPC and the Ag Alliance members that are here with us today,”
    • [0:06:05] “And I'll just maybe turn to staff to see if there's somebody that wants to make any remarks or introduce this topic, and then maybe just see if there's any questions from folks on the line here today with respect to that report.”

  23. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee special meeting, October 22, 2021

    2021-10-22 · 246 lines

    • [1:52:52] “And that conversation is ongoing and would be interesting to hear from the doctors and with respect to that, those conversations that are happening at the provincial level, not including the Allen's Trust, other than in a consultative role as other local governments and where the synergies are here that we might meet our objectives and meet the province's objectives and meet our community's objectives.”
    • [0:35:49] “But I know that on my own property, I have what foresters refer to as dwarf trees, that because of the circumstances of the topology, sandstone rock, very thin layers of nutrients, and the like, of which the Gary Oak ecosystem is a major part of, how are we capturing, is that a very small percentage of the coast of Douglas fir that we need to be concerned about?”
    • [0:04:38] “Okay, absolutely. So that's great. And so then I'm going to adopt the agenda as presented. And let us begin with introductions. I'm just going to go around the room according to my screen layout, which you all know is different from where you are and how you log in.”

  24. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, October 20, 2021

    2021-10-20 · 151 lines

    • [2:06:53] “But I think there's an opportunity to save close to 1%, slightly less than 1% there, and would think that that is a positive move in these times of fiscal restraint. Thank you.”
    • [0:56:28] “that's uh that's uh twenty thousand dollars we'll round it down that obviously makes a difference to”
    • [2:18:30] “dollars to uh to fifteen thousand dollars there's also a request on the books to provide sponsorship”

  25. Islands Trust Council community information meeting, September 29, 2021

    2021-09-29 · 60 lines

    • [0:55:18] “So just want to suggest that I think, whether it's density bonusing or floor area ratios or duplex or whatever, you know, it's about housing, of which not, I think, in the future, not many, including myself, may be in a situation to actually be able to buy or rent places.”
    • [0:57:05] “And so I think there is value and I'm not sure where it is in terms of the timeframe there is value and engaging more people, and even trustees in the developing this conversation around affordability and density bonusing in this particular”
    • [3:05:10] “Council, we are often not able to be nimble. And so really glad to see that you've been able to do that in this particular situation. I'm sure that that will benefit the Galliano community as well. So that's fantastic.”

  26. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, September 13, 2021

    2021-09-13 · 31 lines

    • [0:59:47] “were not invited it's terrific that people speak up but i think it's better probably to receive it”
    • [1:09:02] “motion is after discussion is no longer considered necessary you will require a motion to withdraw”
    • [0:59:26] “committee might choose to take with respect to unsolicited correspondence because of course this”

  27. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee special meeting, August 31, 2021

    2021-08-31 · 881 lines

    • [0:51:51] “So that, you know, it does actually make some sense to me. I wonder if some wording in the motion that maybe options that staff work with the task force to report back on options to coordinate a multi-jurisdictional meeting might actually just set the tone collaboratively with the task force,”
    • [3:23:12] “Well, I'm just wondering where the Ministry of Forests is, I guess, Flynn Road, we call them these days, or even Fire Smart BC, because it strikes me that my island and a number of other islands have actually had a risk assessment done by staff at those agencies.”
    • [4:03:42] “Okay, great. So staff will provide the report. And Jason, thank you for the conversation the other day. And we'll hear from them. And then we'll ask if you concur with the reports and the questions will make a decision here.”

  28. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, July 27, 2021

    2021-07-27 · 859 lines

    • [2:46:37] “My message to everybody is conserve, make sure any vulnerabilities in your water systems are looked after, because if we have water and we lose it because of a failure of a pipe, which I know happens, it has happened even on my own island, where pipes have heated up on these hot days and burst, and an entire water tank is drained.”
    • [4:28:10] “So, ostensibly all those things that are an offence of the TUP and the guidelines would have to be moved or gone and Planner Mace, perhaps you can assist here, that if they wanted to run an office only at that location, that would be a different application.”
    • [2:46:09] “So, appreciate that messaging, frequent and often, and we will do what we can to support agriculture on Salt Spring, as Trustee Patrick has suggested, with respect to policy statement amendments.”

  29. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, July 15, 2021

    2021-07-15 · 324 lines

    • [1:05:51] “you for drawing our attention to that. And I'm just going to go to, because there was a question in there, Stefan, regional planning manager CIRMAC, a question about, do we have map? Is this map? Do we have addresses?”
    • [0:59:41] “And let's come to a place where we understand each other's perspectives and how it is that we can collaborate and work together to come to a common understanding and provide some vision and direction.”
    • [0:35:37] “And just ask Stefan, does that seem to be a complete or does it go too far or should we say less or more of a regional planning manager for Servamark?”

  30. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, June 29, 2021

    2021-06-29 · 1159 lines

    • [3:25:45] “I don't necessarily expect that, yeah, go ahead, this is great, because I think it's actually in the doing, not in us approving this covenant, but in what happens next and that we work with the property owner in the event that there's something that comes up and that we collaborate with Source Nations to do the right thing.”
    • [0:11:25] “Mayor Mrakas, The preparation work to get us to this meeting today, so the first item on the agenda would be the previous meeting minutes and we have draft minutes of May, the 25th before us for adoption, are there any changes to those minutes trustees.”
    • [4:01:58] “continuing apace. That was what that phone call was about down in Saanich with the Dead Boat Society and the First Nations owned corporation that's doing the retrievals and stuff. And so that's good news. That'll be proceeding according to plan.”

  31. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, May 31, 2021

    2021-05-31 · 172 lines

    • [1:16:10] “In fact, I think of our minister, Josie Osborne, as our champion, and that if I can develop awareness, understanding, and support from our minister, that minister can go to her cabinet to seek support for issues that are important to the Islands Trust Council, which spans all of the entire spectrum, which has been discussed.”
    • [1:24:38] “I think that the element of advocacy is not so much advocating other agencies to support what we want to do, but advocating to the public at large, and I'm speaking about nationally, because of what often is juxtaposed is this is in the national best interest.”
    • [0:49:57] “Mayor Mrakas, yeah and not said, you know, certainly it's probably correct that getting a report that indicates some change in allocation of resources.”

  32. Islands Trust Executive Committee regular meeting, May 14, 2021

    2021-05-14 · 144 lines

    • [4:10:41] “Right. So for me, that's what carrying capacity is. And so that said, I think it's probably impossible to determine the kind of carrying capacity of the Gulf Islands if you're measuring it against surrounding urban areas, because we can't use the”
    • [4:26:33] “And not affordable, which is interesting enough and a two by four used to cost a buck 50 now seven bucks. So, what does that look like, I just need some help there to understand that it”
    • [2:59:11] “I think that there will be more opportunity for more input, especially when we get to what I consider to be first draft that says this is our intent.”

  33. Islands Trust Regional Planning Committee regular meeting, May 12, 2021

    2021-05-12 · 123 lines

    • [5:16:04] “I'll just let that settle for a minute. Because LTCs and committees are holding more meetings. And it's really taxing the capacity of staff to do it, period. And we only have a limited number of staff. We already know applications are up.”
    • [4:35:05] “And despite the fact that coming into the pandemic, we did a bit of an analysis and found, phew, applications are going up.”
    • [4:35:11] “To our surprise, they were just slow coming in, and now they're up between 105% and 50% throughout the area.”

  34. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, May 10, 2021

    2021-05-10 · 194 lines

    • [0:53:09] “And I am very grateful for that because I can see immediately that the depth and breadth of their knowledge is definitely going to be able to allow them to assess our work, who we are, how we're doing, and see potentially opportunities for us there, which I will say may be of an administrative nature, but also may and I hope will be of a political nature.”
    • [1:43:12] “I didn't actually speak to the timeline I shouldn't need, you know, principally don't have any objections. However, as indicated earlier, it's really critical to counsel be aware of what their expectations are, because certainly there are expectations upon delivery.”
    • [1:40:31] “Again, there are some questions I have about communications, as was indicated by Jim, I think, and that indeed, you know, we've spent a lot of time over the years trying to move the dial on public engagement.”

  35. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, May 5, 2021

    2021-05-05 · 751 lines

    • [5:23:24] “does but I'm trying to reflect on my own memory which is often problematic anyway now we do have a closed meeting and so I'll thank all the members of the public for joining us today and and and watching us conduct our business here appreciate that and now we're going to I'll ask for motion to go in camera and we will not be returning to a public meeting and we will rise and report at a future meeting if necessary.”
    • [1:18:54] “We can certainly, as we always do when the agenda comes out we go, and it's easy to do the math we could even do it time slots if we wanted to on the agenda to go delegation 1234 10 minutes piece and and and leave and just leave it at that, rather than”
    • [5:12:48] “But the exclusion of the previous version of that, which wasn't obvious because we didn't get a track change version, we just got the finished version of it, the implications are that there were things that were changed that would enable this.”

  36. Islands Trust Programs Committee regular meeting, May 3, 2021

    2021-05-03 · 47 lines

    • [2:52:47] “that all those timelines evolve and indeed whether or not there's consideration executive committee”
    • [2:15:57] “And then I want to thank the CAO and Deb yourself and others that have provided some of the context”
    • [2:16:47] “better not perfect but better and you know in the old in the mediation world what can we live with”

  37. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, April 27, 2021

    2021-04-27 · 1249 lines

    • [3:51:47] “Yeah, Chris, Planner Mays. Obviously, you know, it seems to me this is an incremental process, right, of which if we're talking about a one-year temporary use permit or a three-year temporary use permit, the investment necessary to get the reporting to facilitate that for a short period of time is difficult to amortize the costs over.”
    • [1:32:13] “But in terms of a survey, I have difficulty with setting that kind of a tone and that it's not yes or no or maybe it's loaded with some other things that I think might help some people that are reluctant to participate in this survey,”
    • [3:40:28] “There are options to rezone not only this property but other properties and some would be obviously more successful than others. And I appreciate that you're looking around to see what your options are.”

  38. Islands Trust Conservancy Board community information meeting, April 21, 2021

    2021-04-21 · 197 lines

    • [0:11:12] “thank you, Director Rogers. So my thoughts on this are, you know, it's hard to imagine, but this late in the term, where we may be running out of time, part of the idea was to introduce the new LTC and the director to the islands in a way that is not possible other than visiting the location.”
    • [0:11:47] “I do, however, think, as expressed, I think, by all of you, that it's certainly an important thing and is an important thing, particularly as an opportunity for engagement with the Sinawas Nation.”
    • [0:17:25] “Dave Kuntz, regional planning manager car i'm assuming you brought that and I see that indeed there's not necessarily direct conflict, but certainly a busy day on November, the 10th over to you.”

  39. Thetis Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, April 13, 2021

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    • [2:21:49] “Certainly, it's the most powerful tool, but in the absence of historic weaknesses in the zoning or the development of property as a result of historic zoning, I think we're trying to compensate for that with development permit areas by saying, well, this is what your zoning is, but if you want to do this in this area that we've now identified as being special, that you need to apply for a permit with this.”
    • [2:04:54] “Perhaps, Marnie, you might recall, Jamie, I'm not sure that you were involved in it at that time, there was no sort of final report on that housing, that house development project where they embraced that Green Shores practices to protect their shoreline, which anecdotally, I've spoken with the property owner, and it was very successful.”
    • [0:36:08] “actually, I do have one question, as I reflected here. Was there any, and I don't recall, and I could have done my homework, I'll admit that, of the adjacent properties that were notified, was there any negative response from any of those parties?”

  40. Islands Trust Programs Committee regular meeting, April 8, 2021

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    • [3:10:54] “But I also, it seems to me that we do need more clarity for everybody about participation and recusing oneself from the decision making because that seemed to be the other hurdle that we are having difficulty with because indeed it's difficult to separate funding allocation, a limited pot of money amongst a number of applications when there are pros and cons to funding one or the other more.”
    • [3:43:28] “Thank you, Chair. I think, you know, you've actually characterized this the best way, Chair Morrison, in that we need a better process. And, you know, I'm kind of a digital guy, and it's all about ones and zeros, as opposed to analog, where it's all gray.”
    • [3:14:04] “I'm sure that the Bain Sound, you know, one particular project whose timing is of their next meeting, I can imagine there are opportunities to delay whatever actions may have a fiscal implication for them in the short term.”

  41. Islands Trust Programs Committee regular meeting, April 8, 2021

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    • [3:43:30] “And I think that in a process like this, if we have a numerical measurement opportunity to, we specify some criteria and then the applicants are measured according to how they met the criteria.”
    • [3:43:45] “Then you sort of, it's almost a bit of an arm's length decision because you just do the math and the higher scores win.”
    • [3:14:13] “But I think that these issues need to be addressed in order for us to be able to move forward in a responsible manner.”

  42. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, March 29, 2021

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    • [1:17:27] “I would wonder whether or not the committee would entertain a motion at this time, and then, therefore, whether or not there's an expression of interest by other members on this committee that if we did select three members of this committee, and we asked the CAO to determine a selection of members from his senior staff, that that would be satisfactory to the committee.”
    • [1:17:01] “Okay. Thank you, Trustee Brent. You know, although I brought it up that I was uncomfortable with the other members not being here, primarily because I have some inclination to want one of the members not present to sit on that, being Deb Morrison, who has significant government experience in these sorts of affairs.”
    • [0:28:25] “just feeling that a bit of a disadvantage because two members of the committee are not present and therefore their voices are not going to be heard and or their participation may be difficult to solicit or appoint.”

  43. Islands Trust Executive Committee regular meeting, March 24, 2021

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    • [1:09:13] “And so we've heard directly from three at the political level. Certainly there's been communications with other nations through staff, but I look forward to us engaging more and having deeper conversations to determine how it is that we can collaborate and work together to include all of the First Nations concerns with respect to that work that is going on.”
    • [2:12:23] “Mayor Mrakas, Other so I just i'm thinking about a broader conversation than just executive committee around that perhaps the CEO would like to chime in and reflect on my my thoughts, this is my suggestion, there was some support from the CEO i'll just let him speak for himself if you wish.”
    • [3:58:43] “So I'll call for the vote. All those in favor? Any opposed? None opposed? That carries. Sue Ellen, thank you very much for bringing this to us. I'm sorry for trying to move you along there, but I'm just conscious that we've got a lot of items left on the agenda here today.”

  44. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, March 23, 2021

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    • [0:27:31] “I live in Liaxon and Penelakut territory, and it's a real honor and privilege for me to be able to live, wake up every day here in this amazing part of the world with such incredibly rich history and culture surrounding us.”
    • [1:59:32] “Okay. Is this not contingent, however, though, on the Executive Committee approving it and returning it to the LTC?”
    • [0:31:54] “Um just prior to the break where we discussed appointments, uh regarding the ganges village plan task force”

  45. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, March 1, 2021

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    • [1:08:50] “And so that said, I picked up from Trustee Critchley, and perhaps there might be some clarity there, that he had perhaps said, and maybe I misheard, that local government experience wasn't necessarily something that would be that important.”
    • [1:42:22] “I'd just say that I completely agree with Trustee Critchley, but I think what's important is that that conversation be had, that that's what this committee agrees upon.”
    • [1:08:31] “I have been criticized myself in the past for thinking that what we do is just a business and that we should prescribe standard business practices to doing things.”

  46. Islands Trust Executive Committee regular meeting, February 24, 2021

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    • [2:08:41] “Oh, before we go on there, actually, because of the strategic plan elements and what you were suggesting there, Laura, just a note in passing that, of course, there's some suggestions that some items should be removed from the strategic plan because of the nature of them being local trust committee work and not in the policy statement work.”
    • [4:11:54] “Yeah. So moved. Seconded by Sue Ellen Fast. Thank you. Any discussion? All those in favor? That carries unanimously. And I will just say to Vice Chairs that what's really important in this work that's going on, that John has been involved in this for 25 years, and trying to figure out where the vessels are and where the debris is.”
    • [4:03:56] “So actually, the fiber cable is here already. It's just to run that last mile. And so that advocacy is happening locally here. And we're hopeful that that might come to something. But it's amazing. You said $2.5 million for a trail on Main Island, $2.5 million to deliver a fiber optic cable to Thetis Island.”

  47. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, February 17, 2021

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    • [2:10:08] “And we want to think about how it is that we can support the people that are not as well off as others in our communities. And that isn't necessarily through taxation or through our own taxation or through any other mechanisms that might be available to us directly, rather than influencing the shape and character of our communities.”
    • [2:35:36] “Islands with smaller populations have less ability or resources to do the work that is necessary to preserve and protect this area as part of the Islands Trust, whereas the more populated areas and greater assessed values might have a greater ability, but the responsibility lies to protect the entire area.”
    • [2:15:20] “And so, therefore, what we're doing is maybe not as obvious in those locations. I would say that in the more higher density population areas where the impacts are greater, the work of the Islands Trust is more relevant and much more controversial all at the same time.”

  48. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, February 16, 2021

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    • [0:29:10] “I actually appreciated Deb Morrison's comments about having something where, as we go through it, we can actually all come to some agreement so that when it gets to the next stage, it's actually more advanced than, for instance, me submitting the materials that I have.”
    • [0:38:35] “And if there's some other comments in the same section by others, then it would be good to have that conversation on those sections as we go through.”
    • [0:29:00] “So I'm just wanting to be sure that all of our time is being used effectively and that you can advance this in a reasonable way.”

  49. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, February 16, 2021

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    • [2:30:00] “So welcome back, everybody. Thank you for joining us. My name is Peter Luckham. I'm the chair of the Island Trust Local Trust Committee here on Salt Spring Island. I live on the Thetis Island, and that is in the Laiacson and Penelope Territory, and I am grateful to live and work throughout the Coast Salish territories of the many nations that this is their home since the beginning of time.”
    • [0:14:41] “Okay, great. And so then, indeed, I just want to recognize that the budget survey information is included here. And indeed, the two questions specific to this request, there's mixed support, I'll put it. But nonetheless, there's a motion there to endorse this, and I'd be pleased to hear that.”
    • [0:46:16] “So I'm going to go to 9.6, if that's all right, a letter from our colleague, Trustee Rogers, on behalf of Main Island, that is expressing an interest in collaborating with us on the short-term vacation rentals, which was a letter that went out to the rest of the Gulf Islands.”

  50. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee special meeting, February 11, 2021

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    • [0:45:52] “Thank you, Anne. Also very well said. And although, you know, we certainly have a time frame, there's no necessity to be in a hurry in order to do this right. And I'm sure that the trustees will agree with that concept. So, Gordon, over to you next.”
    • [1:21:27] “But I know agriculture is something that is commonly talked about. And if we haven't said that out loud, that is quite likely an oversight. So if you've made a submission to that process already, then thank you.”
    • [1:03:06] “you, Gordon. I wonder, Planner Mace, I don't see any other hands right up at the moment, but with respect to the terms of reference,”

  51. Islands Trust Council community information meeting, February 10, 2021

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    • [3:18:40] “I originally put my hand up on a process point that not everybody will necessarily be aware of because it's not generally used within Robert's rules, is to, because you've got four, now five points on a main motion, it might be that indeed individuals want to debate one or the other rather than all.”
    • [0:24:02] “But I think the gap is still wide. And I think that those operational costs, heat, light, computers, coffee, pens, papers, all that stuff is relevant in this conversation that that is part and parcel of fuel costs and mileage and, you know, the list goes on and on and on.”
    • [1:43:45] “And I think that my emphasis has been is not burdening all the other taxpayers for the cost of that development when they're not necessarily benefiting in any way, although certainly there may be some community benefits but for the most part the development”

  52. Islands Trust Programs Committee regular meeting, February 5, 2021

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    • [1:20:19] “And I think the engagement and I'm thinking about I've shared with Claire a symposium style format where people can be invited, welcomed, facilitate sort of casual conversation like at a reception in rooms or something and then bring everybody back together for plenary sort of discussion videos and then go back into groups to allow some interaction so that it's more welcoming than a talking heads kind of a thing.”
    • [1:06:46] “And indeed, you know, this is ostensibly the budget approval council meeting, and we're looking at essentially two and a half quite long days and wanted to balance the ability of everybody to be able to be energized and focused and absorbing the conversation, balancing the necessity for public input, both on this topic and on the budget topic.”
    • [1:20:03] “But I really wanted to mention, actually, I've spoken with Claire and would encourage staff to really think about the event itself, because, of course, everybody on the planet has been so involved in electronic meetings of various descriptions.”

  53. Islands Trust Programs Committee regular meeting, February 3, 2021

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    • [1:44:20] “Because I think that we want to be sure that everybody's stepping up and drawing attention to the issues that are important so that we can have the full conversation here to go forth confidently that we've engaged with council and council is content with the direction and has resolved some of the outstanding issues.”
    • [1:47:33] “And then reflecting on the two efforts that we made in that direction, whether or not that's something we would continue or not, because, indeed, we need to get good participants or a broader spectrum of diversity of participants in order to continue warrant doing that, I think.”
    • [2:38:24] “That's fine. But that other things flow from that and are are are measured against that framework, I think, is helpful to facilitate us getting to a place of common understanding and consensus might be a strong word, but some kind of common understanding.”

  54. Gambier Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, February 1, 2021

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    • [3:42:53] “But and it doesn't look like maybe you got the December or January when I'm sort of thinking there's another one in there where it's identified that maybe that was just a letter that went out to everybody that Kate Emmings has taken the full time job of the manager.”
    • [0:29:39] “I didn't need the full meal deal, but I'm glad that I had got that, and maybe we could talk offline about it, because I guess my concern there, and I don't live there, and I don't have to deal with it.”
    • [2:18:00] “Okay. And William, of course, too. Yeah. Okay. So let's, and so, Will, could you put a message up on the screen and include that in the conversation with Peter that we're recessing until 1215?”

  55. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee regular meeting, January 22, 2021

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    • [1:30:37] “So what was the question again? And what you were, yes, pleasing there, Peter. And Louise, I'm having a little trouble with a funny, I tried adjusting my sound. There's a little bit of funny echo or feedback that's making it difficult for me to hear clearly what you're saying there. That might be my fault. I don't know.”
    • [1:28:19] “So, is this an appropriate time to now go to Plano Garbo's work that she's brought before us with respect to the charter? Or is there a necessity to do something different at this point? Because there was talk about a strategic plan, but I think maybe let's give Plano Garbo the opportunity to speak to her report.”
    • [0:27:22] “Anyway, so appreciate your introduction there about the necessity for leadership in creating opportunities for housing in respect of the other essential elements of that and the community's needs with respect to the Perseverance Protect mandate and with respect and specifically with climate change.”

  56. Islands Trust Financial Planning Committee regular meeting, January 20, 2021

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    • [0:53:16] “And then I just wanted to remind the FPC, that's really significant in all of this. Every year we make a motion to borrow money in case we run out of money. That always exists, and will always continue to exist. And admittedly, we don't want to borrow money, but I think at the same time, Trustee Brennan is saying, we don't want to bank money either. So we need”
    • [0:52:06] “Just before you call it, as the seconder of the motion even, I'm not going to make any amendment, but I'm hoping that in the report on the recommendations with respect to changing the policy, that also what we take into consideration from what I'm hearing is some kind of clarity around contingency.”
    • [0:51:12] “And that a motion that is moved in second is owned by the committee, and the interpretation of friendly is, you know, there's a mythology around that and a practice that has been conducted at the Islands Trust, which I don't think is right.”

  57. Salt Spring Island Local Trust Committee community information meeting, January 19, 2021

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    • [1:37:37] “It's there to help us understand better your advice and the recommendations and how we might alter those recommendations and or put pause on advancing those recommendations in order to get that, the way I see it anyway, get that community input through the task force, the technical working group, engagement with others, off to a good start to help us develop that convergence model.”
    • [3:46:25] “and so I think that, you know, I don't know my messaging here will be is let's get this applicant before the local trust committee as soon as possible so that these uncertainties can be dealt with in a timely fashion because it is at the patience of the community that the bylaws which are in place are temporarily dismissed in order to allow that community need to be served.”
    • [0:11:12] “so Town Hall is scheduled at 1255. We will be leaving for a break sometime before noon and returning at 1230, as is our habit. And then at that point, we'll be doing trustee reports and your report, correspondence, and then Town Hall. So if you wanted to return then, that would be fine. But we won't get to it before 1230 to one o'clock for sure.”

  58. Islands Trust Council regular meeting, January 18, 2021

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    • [1:07:51] “I don't know how the procurement process works about how those questions of clarity get answered during the bidding process, because if a contractor comes to us with questions of clarity, one or two might be fine.”
    • [1:27:11] “Are trustees that would support some revision to this document to make it more robust in terms of soliciting the individuals that might choose to take this on and provide us a response in a respectful manner.”
    • [0:13:52] “Thank you. I just want to add one small wish, I suppose, and that, of course, all of these meetings need to be safe places for all of us to participate and speak our minds without criticism.”